THE GOVERNANCE AND FINANCE WILL
COME TO ORDER GOOD MORNING
EVERYONE THE SENATE CONTINUES TO
WELCOME THE PUBLIC IN PERSON AND
VIA THE TELECONFERENCE ORBIS FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT AT TODAY'S
HEARING THAT- PARTICIPANT
NUMBERS IS. 877-226-8216 AND THE
ACCESS ACCESS CODE IS. SIX TWO
ONE SEVEN ONE SIX ONE. WE ARE
HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE HEARINGS
HERE IN THE- STREET- STREET
BUILDING AND I AND IT LOOKS LIKE
WE'RE WE PROBABLY HAVE A QUORUM-
WE ARE IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED SO WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD
AND WE DON'T WE'RE WHEN SHORT I
CAN'T COUNT OKAY. ALL RIGHTY
WELL WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE
FOR A QUORUM SO- WE WILL PASS
THAT AND BEGIN AS A SUB
COMMITTEE WE HAVE EIGHT EIGHTEEN
BILLS ON TODAY'S AGENDA WITH
THREE PROPOSED FOR CONSENT THE
CONSENT ITEMS ARE. FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWO SB TWO SIXTY FOUR BY
SENATOR NEAL ITEM NUMBER FOUR SB
FOUR FIVE FOUR BY SENATOR- CHOI
BOGUE AND FILE ITEM NUMBER
EIGHTEEN SB FIVE TWO ONE BY
SENATOR SEYARTO. SO WE HAVE OUR
FIRST AUTHOR WHEN A WELCOME
SENATOR WHEN. ON AND HER BILL IS
SB FIVE ON FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE
WELCOME. THE MORNING MADAM CHAIR
. GOOD MORNING COLLEAGUES- I'M
HERE TO PRESENT SB FIVE.
CALIFORNIA SUFFERED FROM THE
HIGH COSTS OF INFLATION AND THE
COST OF LIVING CONTINUES HIGH
FEW CLASSES IS ONE OF THOSE
AFFECTS. IN. TWO THOUSAND
SEVENTEEN. THE STATE PASSED SB
ONE. WHICH AMONG OTHER THINGS
REQUIRE THE BOP BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION TO ANNUALLY ADJUST
THE MOTOR VEHICLE GASOLINE
EXCESS TAX RATES BASED ON THE
CALIFORNIA CONSUMER PRICE INDEX
WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS C. CPI.
ACCORDING TO THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS INTO A TWENTY TWENTY
ONE TO TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY ONE
FISCAL YEAR THE INCREASE UNDER
SB ONE WAS ONE POINT 2% THE NEXT
INCREASE WAS FOR FIVE POINT 5%
FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR
TWENTY TWENTY THREE AND TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR THE RATE WILL BE
INCREASED BY SEVEN POINT FOUR
PERCENT. ALL THESE INCREASES ARE
THE RESULT OF THE INCREASE IN
THE CALIFORNIA CONSUMER PRICE
INDEX IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
PROVISIONS OF SB ONE. CONSUMERS
ARE REQUIRED TO DRASTICALLY JUST
TO TRANSPORTATION BUDGETS IN
ORDER TO PAY INFLATED PRICES ON
GASOLINE WHICH RIGHT NOW WE ARE
THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY. JUST
TO GO TO ABOUT THEIR DAILY
ACTIVITIES LIKE TAKING THEIR
CHILDREN TO SCHOOL OR AFTER
SCHOOL PROGRAMS GROCERY STORES
MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS WORK
EXAGGERATES ALLOWING AN
AUTOMATIC RATE INCREASE EIGHT.
AUTOMATIC TAX RATE INCREASES AS
INFLATION INCREASES IS A KIND OF
THING THAT FRUSTRATES AND ANGERS
EVERYONE. WHO PURCHASES GASOLINE
. AND THEY ARE REMINDED OF THIS
UNFAIR SITUATION IN TIME THEY
FILL UP THEIR TANKS. BUT NOT
ONLY THOSE WHO PURCHASED
GASOLINE BUT THOSE WHO RIDE THE
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO AS
THOSE PRICES GOES UP. ADDING
MORE BURDEN TO FAMILIES NOT WHAT
WE SHOULD DO. THIS IS A COSTS A
FEW IS ONE PART OF THE CPI AS
FEW PRICES INCREASES SO DOES THE
C. CPI. AND EVEN WORSE IN
ADDITION TO THE INCREASED PRICE
A FEW PURSUANT TO SB ONE. THE
TAX ON THE SALE OF THAT FEW IT
ALSO IS INCREASE THIS BECOME A
DOUBLE WHAMMY THAT CAUSES THE
TOTAL COSTS OF FUEL FOR
CONSUMERS TO INCREASE EVEN MORE.
BASICALLY A TAX ON THE TAX. SB
FIVE IS JUST A REASONABLE
COMMONSENSE MEASURE IT DOES NOT
PROHIBIT A TAX INCREASE FROM S.
B. ONE. THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY
PASSED READ IT MERELY IT LIMITS
THE AMOUNT THAT THE TAX THE GAS
TAX. INCREASE TO NO MORE THAN 2%
PER YEAR. WHY 2% THE FEDERAL
RESERVE HAS USED 2% AS ITS
TARGET RATE. FOR INFLATION SINCE
NINETEEN NINETY NINE. SB TWO SB
FIVE SIMPLY PERILOUS THAT SAME
RATE AS AN ALLOWABLE AMOUNT THE
FEW TAX MAY INCREASE. LET'S GIVE
CALIFORNIA FAMILIES A BREAK TO
WHETHER THOSE HIGH COST OF GOODS
AND ALSO LIVING IN THE STATE.
AND HELP THEM BECAUSE SUMMER
SEASON IS COMING I'M
RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE ON SB FIVE THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH DO YOU HAVE ANY
LEAD WITNESSES HERE TODAY I
DON'T. VERY GOOD IS THERE ANYONE
WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF SB ONE. HERE I'M
SORRY I CAN'T. EVEN FIND MY
COFFEE SB FIVE FILE ITEM NO ONE
SB FIVE HERE IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED. SEEING NO MOVEMENT IS
THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. TO SB FIVE
HERE IN ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED
. SAYING NINE WE'RE GOING TO GO
TO THE PHONE LINES AND ASK. THE
MODERATOR TO PLEASE QUEUE UP THE
PHONE LINES TO SEE IF THERE'S
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO THIS.
TESTIFIED EITHER IN SUPPORT OR
IN OPPOSITION NOW READ THAT
NUMBER ONE OTHER WHEN FURTHER
TIME. THE NUMBER TO THE
PARTICIPANT NUMBER TODAY IS
EIGHT SEVEN SEVEN. TWO TWO SIX
EIGHT TWO ONE SIX AND THE ACCESS
CODE IS SIX TWO ONE. SEVEN ONE
SIX ONE. ANYBODY WISHING TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION. SB FIVE. THANK YOU
HIGH- AS MEDICARE STATED IF YOUR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB FIVE
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO AT THIS TIME WHEN BOTH
MAJOR. AND NOBODY IS QUEUING UP
TO START VERY GOOD I'M GONNA
BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
BUT BEFORE WE TAKE ANY COMMENTS
OR QUESTIONS I'M GONNA
ESTABLISHES A QUORUM. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. SENATOR
SCARBOROUGH FAIR CABALLERO
PRESENCE THEY ARE TO YOUR- THEY
ARE TO PRESENT BLAKE SPEIR.
DOLLY DOLLY PRESENT DRESSEL. BUT
ALSO PRESENT GLAZER. GLAZER
PRESENT SKINNER WIENER YOU HAVE
A QUORUM. OF A QUORUM AND I'M
ADVISED THAT- SENATOR BREAK
THROUGH WILL NOT BE HERE TODAY
SO- MOVING ON ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
WITH THERE IS A MAN AT A MOTION
BY SENATOR SEYARTO SENATOR
GLAZERS. I THANK EACH YEAR. FROM
SENATOR I KNOW THAT YOU MIGHT
THINK THAT I MIGHT BE AN EASY
PREDICTABLE VOTE ON THIS- GIVEN
THAT I WOULD ASSUME IT'S- A
GIVEN THAT I OPPOSE THE GAS TAX-
THAT- THIS THAT THE LEGISLATURE
PASSED. YES IT WAS FIVE YEARS
AGO L. FIVE MEMORY I WAS THERE
ARE SERVING YOU RIGHT- I YOU
KNOW I CAST THAT VOTE FOR A
VARIETY OF REASONS NOT THE LEAST
OF WHICH IS THE EFFECT ON ON
WORKING FAMILIES IN OUR STATE- I
ALSO FELT THAT- OUR PRIORITIES
WERE A LITTLE OUT OF WHACK IN
TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION SPENDING
. WE'RE SPENDING THIS YEAR I
THINK- FIVE HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS. ON A HIGH SPEED RAIL.
SYSTEM THAT WILL NEVER BE
FINISHED FIVE HUNDRED MILLION SO
. NOT SURE TRANSPORTATION
SPENDING PRIORITIES ARE REALLY
ALIGNED. BUT I WANNA BUT I
APPRECIATE THE GOAL OF THIS BILL
WHICH IS TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF
PREDICTABILITY AND CERTAINTY AND
THAT'S ADMIRABLE. AND THANK YOU
FOR. PUSHING THAT THAT GOOD
VALUE ON US BUT LET ME TELL YOU
WHAT I CAN'T SUPPORT THE BILL
TODAY- A FIXED RATE WHILE.
SEEMINGLY REASONABLE. BUT
DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE MAY FIND
OURSELVES AND- NEXT YEAR THE
NEXT YEAR AFTER THAT FIVE YEARS
FROM NOW TEN YEARS FROM NOW. AND
PART OF THE CHALLENGE OF
LEGISLATING IS NOT TO CREATE
FORMULAS THAT DON'T ALWAYS WORK
IT'S TO HAVE LEADERSHIP THE CAN
MAKE. EVEN HARD DECISIONS- IN
EACH SUCCEEDING YEAR. AS WE LOOK
AT THE EXACT CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH
WE FIND OURSELVES. AND THE
GUARDS OF THE GAS TAX THAT'S THE
CHOICE THAT WE GET TO MAKE- EACH
YEAR IF WE SO CHOOSE. I
APPRECIATE WHY WE DON'T LIKE
THOSE CHOICES. BECAUSE THEY'RE
UNCOMFORTABLE CHOICES SOMETIMES
WE HAVE TO RAISE TAXES AND IT'S
UNPOPULAR- BUT A FIXED. AMOUNT
EVEN AS IT SEEMS REASONABLE ON
THE SURFACE TO ME IS NOT
NECESSARILY GOOD GOVERNANCE. FOR
US GOING FORWARD AND I DON'T
WANT TO LOCK IN A FUTURE
LEGISLATURE IN THAT WAY. AND AND
THAT'S WHY AND FORCE THAT CATS
WERE PEOPLE TODAY. SEEING NO
FURTHER COMMENTS I'M A MINUTE
ALIGN MYSELF WITH THAT WITH THE-
COMMENTS OF US SENATOR GLAZERS.
SHE ATE YOUR- THAT WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO DO HERE THIS IS A
REALLY TOUGH VOTE- AND I
SUPPORTED IT ONE BECAUSE I DO SO
I DO BELIEVE THAT HIGH SPEED
RAIL RAIL WOULD BE FINISHED- IT
MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT WHAT. WE
ANTICIPATED- AND THERE MAY BE
SOME UP WELL THERE HAVE BEEN
SOME BUMPS ALONG THE WAY BUT-
BUT I IT I THINK THE- WHAT WHAT
WE'VE SEEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING
FROM THE STORM IS THAT WE NEED
THESE RESOURCES NOW MORE THAN
EVER I HAD ROADS. MAJOR ROADS
AND- MY DISTRICT THAT WERE WERE
WASHED OUT AND- PART OF THIS. SB
ONE IS A CONTRIBUTION TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENT- COFFERS AS WELL IT'S
MATCHING AS WELL SO I'M NOT
GOING TO BE SUPPORTING IT AT
THIS TIME BUT I DO APPRECIATE
YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD. SO
I'LL ALLOW YOU TO CONCLUDE. THAT
THANK YOU MANAGER SO OKAY I'M
EXCUSE ME SENATOR DRAWS A DOES
WANT TO MAKE. NO NO I JUST. I'M
MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT YOU
HAVE TO SAY YEAH I THE MAIN
REASON THAT I WOULD NOT BE
SUPPORTING AS I THINK THIS IS A
MUCH BIGGER CONVERSATION THAT
HAS TO DO WITH THE BUDGET. HAS
TO DO WITH IT IS JUST MUCH VERY
VERY BIG IMPLICATIONS HERE AND I
DON'T THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF
THING THAT WILL BE SOLVED WITH-
WITH THE CATHOLIC FAITH. AND
CENTER CITY. THIRTY DOLLARS.
WELL ARE YOU THE- I. WASN'T
GONNA SAY MUCH BUT I AFTER THE
CONVERSATION I NEED TO SAY SOME
STUFF SO FIRST OF ALL I'M THE-
HAVE TRUCKS AS A BUSINESS. WE
PAY A HEAVY WEIGHT USE TAX. IT
RETREATS ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS
A YEAR. AND IT GOES TO THE
GENERAL FUND IT DOESN'T GO TO
THE ROADS THAT THEY ACTUALLY THE
WAY TO THE TRUCK. IT'S SUPPOSED
TO GO TO ROADS BECAUSE THEY HAVE
YOUR THE TRUCK THE MORE DAMAGE
IT DOES TO THE ROAD. BUT WE PUT
THAT IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND IT
DOESN'T GO TO ROADS. TO SENATOR
GLAZERS POINTS INTO THE CHAIRS
POINT ABOUT HIGH SPEED RAIL. IF
IT'S ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. WE
SHOULD DO GOOD WORK. AND WE TALK
ABOUT THAT IN IN A LOT OF THE
TAXES THAT COME IN. FROM GAS TAX
COMES DRIVE STICK TO THE
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION FUND.
WE USE THAT FOR MANY THINGS WE
USE IT FOR. HELPING GEHRY DIE
JESTERS REDUCE POLLUTION AND WE
HELP IT WE USE IT FOR BICYCLE
LANES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS TO
GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS. BUT WE
ALSO. USE IT FOR THE HIGH SPEED
RAIL BE. NICE BE REAL IS A
HUNDRED AND SIXTY EIGHT THOUSAND
DOLLARS PER TON IS WHAT THE
ESTIMATED COST IS FOR REDUCTION
OF GREENHOUSE GAS IF WE EVER
BUILD. AND SO I THINK WE'RE
DISINGENUOUS WE CONTINUE TO.
FIND THINGS THAT AREN'T. IN LINE
WITH OUR WITH WITH THE GOAL OF
ACTUALLY USING CARBON. IS IT
WHAT THAT. LEGISLATION WAS
PASSED TO ACTUALLY CREATE JOBS.
IT WASN'T TO REDUCE CARBON. AND
SO WHEN WE TALK THAT THE I THINK
THAT. THE THING THAT REALLY IS
FRUSTRATING AS ALLEGE THERE'S WE
HEAR AN ALMOST EVERY BILL ABOUT.
THE DISADVANTAGED FOLKS IN OUR
INTERSTATE OR GETTING CRUSHED.
THESE ARE THE KIND OF POLICIES
ACROSS THOSE PEOPLE. AND THEN ON
TOP OF THAT WE TAKE THOSE FUNDS
AND WE- WASTE TIME ON. THINGS
LIKE HIGH SPEED RAIL. IT'S SO.
IF YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY HELP LOW
INCOME PEOPLE REDUCE THE COST SO
THEY COULD ACTUALLY GET TO WORK
AND FEED THEIR FAMILIES AND THIS
BILL WOULD DO THAT SO I WILL
SUPPORT YOUR BILL TODAY AND I
THINK THERE. WE NEED TO HAVE
THESE DISCUSSIONS MORE OPENLY.
IN THE PAST THE TRANSPARENCY OF
WHAT WE DO IN THIS BUILDING.
HURTS PEOPLE AND BECAUSE LABOR
WANTS SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN
THAT WE SHOULD DO IT. IT IT JUST
MEANS IT'S JOBS BUT IT'S COSTING
. OUR ROADS AT THE SAME TIME- IN
TERRIBLE SHAPE BECAUSE WE DON'T
HAVE TO PUT THE MONEY TOWARDS
WROTE. BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT
PEOPLE TO FIX THE ROADS BECAUSE
THEY WANT PEOPLE DRIVING CARS
THEY WANT TO RIDE BICYCLES OR
WHATEVER IT IS. SO WE USE STICKS
AND CARROTS HERE MORE STICKS
THAN CARROTS AND THE CARROTS WE
GIVE OUT DON'T ACTUALLY IMPROVE
THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
DO. SO FOR THOSE REASONS I'LL BE
SUPPORTING YOUR BILL THANK YOU
FOR BRING IT FORWARD I THINK
IT'S AWESOME TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION BECAUSE I'M THE
PUBLIC. NEED TO KNOW WHAT
HAPPENS HERE WE'RE NOT SERVING
THEM WE'RE SERVING SPECIAL
INTEREST. AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY.
SPECIAL INTERESTS DOESN'T- ARE
ARE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE
POOR INDIVIDUAL WHO HAPPEN TO.
LICENSE OUR CORPORATE FUEL ON.
SETTERS HERE TO. AIRING YES IT
IS EVERYBODY IS GOING TO WAY AND
I AM TO- YOU KNOW WHAT. PEOPLE
ARE TIRED OF NOT GETTING THE
BANG FOR THEIR BUCK- THEY DON'T
MIND PAYING TAXES THEY DON'T
MIND PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE
TAXES. IF WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING
TO DELIVER TO THEM WHAT WE'RE
PROMISING THEM. WHAT YOU'RE
PROPOSING. IS TO LIMIT THAT%
AMOUNTED 2% INSTEAD OF THIS FIRE
THIS FOUR POINT THREE WE ARE 5%
JUMPS IN. AND ALL THESE OTHER
JUMPS IN THE INFLATION PART OF
IT. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE
DAY IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE
PEOPLE THEIR BANG FOR THEIR
BUCK. IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO
SEE IMPROVED ROADS WHICH WE
DON'T INVEST ENOUGH IN. THEN I
REALLY STRUGGLE. THE CONTINUING
TO RAISE THEIR TAXES MORE MORE
MORE. WHILE THEY GET LESS AND
LESS AND LESS. AND WE INVEST
MORE INTO FAILING SYSTEMS. AND
AS SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
ALREADY POINTED OUT. THINGS LIKE
THAT THE HIGH SPEED RAIL THE
HIGH SPEED RAIL IS NOT A- BAD
THING TO HAVE IF. IT IN FOR
TRANSPORTATION. IF YOU CAN
AFFORD IT IN CALIFORNIA WE CAN'T
AFFORD IT. WE JUST CAN'T. JUST
BE THAT'S THE WAY WERE BUILT.
AND UNTIL WE CHANGE THAT SO IT
BECOMES MORE AFFORDABLE THAT SO
WE CAN. WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT IN
AN ENTIRE LINE. IN THE- THE YEAR
IS PRESCRIBED AS OPPOSED TO. A
REALLY SHORT SEGMENT OF IT. IN
TEN MORE YEARS. IN ADDITION TO
THE- TEN YEARS THAT WE'VE TAKEN
SO FAR. YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE
SICK AND TIRED WE'RE SICK AND
TIRED OF GETTING CHARGED MORE
MORE. AND THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE'RE
DOING WITH THESE INFLATIONARY-
INCREASES IN IN OUR- IN OUR TAX
RATES. AND ESPECIALLY FOR THIS.
YOU KNOW WHAT ELECTRIC CARS NEED
ROADS TO DRIVE ON TO AND WE ARE
NOT PUTTING THE MONEY. INTO THE
ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE VIA THIS.
THAT WE NEED TO THE CITIES ARE
GETTING THE MONEY THEY NEED. AND
CERTAINLY- IT ALL EVEN THOUGH
WE'RE RAISING THE TAXES MORE AND
MORE EVERY YEAR. THEY'RE GETTING
LESS NOT MORE. AND UNTIL THEY
START SEEING THE END PRODUCT.
THEY DON'T WANT US VOTING FOR
THINGS LIKE THIS THEY DON'T WANT
US DEVOTED TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER
FOUR POINT THREE PERCENT. HIKE
ON THEIR ON THEIR GAS SO I AM
SUPPORTING YOUR BILL BECAUSE I
THINK IT MAKES SENSE. AND IN I
THINK- AND LIKE I SAID I THINK
PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED. OF US
NOT MANAGING WHAT WERE THERE
GIVING US ALREADY. AND AND I
THINK THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A
STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IF
IT DOESN'T IF IN THE FUTURE WE
FIND THAT ALL THE SUDDEN WE'RE
DOING PRODUCT IF PROJECTS THAT
PEOPLE WANT. AND PEOPLE NEED AND
WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN
WE COULD GO BACK IN AND RE
ADJUST THAT. BUT FOR NOW I THINK
WE NEED TO GO ON A TAX DIET.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GIVING PEOPLE
WHAT THEY WANT. SO SO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR BILL. I DO APPRECIATE
IT AND- AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
TRYING TO DO FOR TAXPAYERS THANK
YOU. YOUR WHEN YOU MAY CONCLUDE
THAT THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR- I
THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS AND
THE DISCUSSION. YOU'RE RIGHT AS
SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE
TRANSPORTATION FUNDING IS NOT A
LINE WITHOUT PRIORITIES. WHY I
RESPECT THE FACT THAT YES SB
FIVE DOES GIVE MONEY TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENT BUT I'LL TELL YOU
RIGHT NOW TO DRIVE IN ORANGE
COUNTY. HALF OF THE CITY'S IN
ORANGE COUNTY'S IN MY DISTRICT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER THE WEALTHIEST
AREA OF MY DISTRICT OF THE POOR
SERVICE DISTRICT. THE ROADS ARE
MASS IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR
YEARS THE FUNDING IS NOT GETTING
WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. AND AS YOU
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND- THE-
ARE THE RESIDENTS CALIFORNIANS
SEE THAT. THEM WILL PAY FOR IT
BUT THEN WHAT IMPROVEMENT A WE
SEE. THERE ISN'T MOST PEOPLE
HAVE TO GET THEIR ALIGNMENT FIX.
GET MORE BREAKS. OF NEW TIRES.
BY AND THE THING THE BOTTOM LINE
WITH THIS BILL IS SB FIVE. IS
NOT TAKING AWAY ANY TAX.
INCREASES IT'S JUST CAPPING IT
AT 2% SO MORE PREDICTABILITY.
AND YOU SAW LAST YEAR WAIT. SOME
ERRORS IN CALIFORNIA IN ORANGE
COUNTY WE AVERAGE ABOUT SEVEN
DOLLARS ARE UP TO ABOUT SEVEN
EIGHT DOLLARS A GALLON. OTHER
AREAS IN CALIFORNIA WAS ABOUT
TEN DOLLARS A GALLON. GAS PER
GALLON IN GASOLINE COSTS MORE
THAN A GALLON OF MILK. FOR A
FAMILY. AND THAT SHOULD BE THE
CASE BECAUSE WE NEED THE
TRANSPORTATION. OF TO GET TO ONE
ONE POINT TO ANOTHER. AND YOU
KNOW WE CAN TALK I MEAN I
HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS. I ACTUALLY BACK
THEN. WHEN THEY WANTED TO PROVE
THE TRANSPORTATION AGENCY THE
RIDE A BUS WOULD NOT BE
EFFICIENT. FOR WORKING
INDIVIDUAL LIKE MYSELF. I WENT
FROM GARDEN GROVE TO SANTANA
WHICH USUALLY TAKING AN AVERAGE
OF THIRTY TWENTY MINUTES WITHOUT
TRAFFIC. I TOOK THE BUS TO TAKE
ME AN HOUR AND A HALF. TO GET TO
THE OFFICE. AN HOUR AND A HALF.
THAT'S THE THAT'S A LONG TIME
FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE TO GET
TO WORK. ON AND I TOLD THE
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY ONE
INDIVIDUALS LIKE MEET THE
MAJORITY WHO HAS TO GET TO WORK.
SOMEHOW OR GET THEIR KIDS. TO
SCHOOL YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIX
THAT SYSTEM TO BE MORE
EFFICIENT. AND THAT'S WHERE OUR
TRANSPORTATION FUNDING IS NOT
LINE AND SO THIS BILL GET DOES
NOT STOP THE TAX INCREASE WHICH
IS CAPS AT TWO. MORE
PREDICTABILITY AND RIGHT NOW OUR
TRANSPORTATION TAXES IS THE
HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY. GET OUR
ROADS ARE NOT THE MOST ARE NOT
PERFECT IN THE COUNTRY- ALMOND
SO ALL MASKING AS- WE CONTINUE
THIS DISCUSSION SO THAT. WE CAN
PUT OUR PRIORITIES TOGETHER. AND
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY
MUCH OF PLEASE CALL THE ROLE WE
DO HAVE A MOTION. THE MOTION IS
TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS.
SERVICE CABALLERO. THERE ARE TWO
BY THEIR TÔI LAKE SUPERIOR DALI.
DALI I DO WRESTLE. GLAZER GLAZER
NO SKINNER. WIENER TWO ONE. TWO
TO ONE BELIEVE THAT ON CALL FOR
THE ABSENT MEMBERS THANK YOU
MA'AM THANK YOU. I'M MEMBERS HOW
ABOUT TAKING UP THE- CONSENT
CALENDAR THE THREE PROPOSED
ITEMS ITEM NUMBER TWO ITEM
NUMBER FOUR AND ITEM NUMBER
EIGHTEEN. THERE IS A MOTION.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MOTION IS
SET UP THE CONSENT CALENDAR
SENATORS CABALLERO HI CABALLERO
I SEE ARE TOO SCARED TO A BLANK
STARE DALI. DALI I DO WRESTLE.
WRESTLE AYE GLAZER GLAZER AYE
SKINNER WIENER. FIVE ZERO FIVE
ZERO WILL PUT THAT ON CALL FOR
THE ABSENT MEMBERS AS WELL.
MOVING ON TO SENATOR ROTH.
WELCOME FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE
S. B. FOR NINETEEN. WITH. THANK
YOU. X. EXEMPTION. IT LAUNCHED A
NEW AND EXCITING AEROSPACE
INDUSTRY IN THE STATE. THIS BILL
SENATE BILL FOUR NINETEEN WOULD
EXTEND THAT SUNSET ON THIS TAX
EXEMPTION FOR ANOTHER TEN YEARS
FROM. TWO THOUSAND TWENTY FIVE
TO TWO THOUSAND THIRTY FIVE.
PRIOR TO THE RAPID EXPANSION OF
THE PRIVATE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY
TECH CALIFORNIA TAX POLICY WAS
NOT DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THE
UNIQUE INDUSTRY THAT SPACE IS
LAUNCH VEHICLES AND SPACECRAFT
UNLIKE MOST MANUFACTURED
COMMODITIES ARE NOT BUILT TO BE
SOLD. RATHER THEY'RE BUILT AS A
DELIVERY SERVICE FOR SATELLITES
AND CARGO TO THE INTERNATIONAL
SPACE STATION THIS CREATED
AMBIGUITY IN THE TAX CODE AS TO
HOW SPACE FLIGHT PROPERTY.
SHOULD BE ASSESSED FOR TAX
PURPOSES THE BOARD OF OUR BOARD
OF EQUALIZATION IN THE STATE
FIRST CLARIFIED THAT BUSINESS
INVENTORY BUILT TO GO INTO SPACE
WAS NOT SUBJECT TO PERSONAL
PROPERTY TAXES THROUGH ITS
WRITTEN TAX OPINION DATED
DECEMBER TWENTY FOUR TWO
THOUSAND THIRTEEN. THIS TAX
OPINION WAS SUBSEQUENTLY
CODIFIED INTO LAW. IN TWO
THOUSAND FOURTEEN BY ASSEMBLY
BILL SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN NOTICES A
AN EXCEPTION OR EXEMPTION FROM
PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX NOT A TAX
CREDIT. THIS SENSIBLE SHIFT IN
POLICY PAVE THE WAY FOR
COMMERCIAL SPACE COMPANIES TO
REPLACE THE WELL PAYING JOBS
THAT LEFT THE STATE. ALONG WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
CONTRACTS WHEN AEROSPACE
INDUSTRY THE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY
ORIGINALLY LEFT CALIFORNIA AND
FOR THOSE OF US IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA WE KNOW HOW THAT
IMPACTED US. OVER THE PAST
DECADE THANKS TO OUR TAX
POLICIES CALIFORNIA'S AEROSPACE
INDUSTRY. IS ROBUST ONCE AGAIN
YOU WILL HEAR FROM ONE OF FROM
MY WITNESS PRODUCING SATELLITES
ROCKET ENGINES FUSELAGE IN
CAPSULES. THE PRODUCTION MADE
POSSIBLE BY THIS TAX CREDIT HAS
ALSO BIRTH THE GROUP OF SUB
VENDORS. TO MANUFACTURE AND
PROVIDE SUPPORT SERVICES TO AID
THIS INDUSTRY THESE VENDOR
RELATIONSHIPS WITH CALIFORNIA
BASED SUPPLIERS. LOCATED
THROUGHOUT THE STATE HAVE
RESULTED IN AN INCREASE THAT'S
BEEN ESTIMATED AT TWO POINT FOUR
BILLION IN REVENUE FOR
CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES. HALF OF
WHICH ARE CONSIDERED TO BE SMALL
BUSINESSES. SO IN ORDER TO
CONTINUE ENCOURAGING SUCH
INNOVATION IN MANUFACTURING AND
MANUFACTURING AND EXTENSION OF
THIS BUSINESS INVENTORY PROPERTY
TAX EXEMPTION ORIGINALLY
PROVIDED BY A. B. SEVEN SEVEN
SEVEN. IS ESSENTIAL TO ENSURE
THAT THE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY
STAYS IN CALIFORNIA AND
CONTINUES TO GROW. I ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENTS IDENTIFIED IN THE
ANALYSIS AND AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME RESPECTFULLY AS FOR NAY
VOTE. A GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH
I SHOULD SAY MANAGER I HAVE WITH
ME TO TESTIFY RICHARD LEE THIS
THING SENIOR DIRECTOR OF TAX AND
TREASURY FOR SPACEX. VERY GOOD
WELCOME. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MY
NAME IS RICHARD LEE AND I SENIOR
DIRECTOR OF TAX INTRODUCED
SPACEX I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF SENATE
BILL FOUR ONE NINE. FOUNDED IN
TWO THOUSAND AND TWO. SPACEX'S
PRODUCT DESIGN BUILD AND LAUNCH
THE WORLD'S MOST ADVANCED SAFE
AND RELIABLE SPACECRAFT AND
LAUNCH VEHICLES CALIFORNIA. THE
TAX EXEMPTIONS FOR QUALIFY
PROPERTY USED IN SPACE FLIGHT.
FIRST PASSED BY THIS COMMITTEE
IN TWENTY THIRTEEN. ENABLE
SPACEX TO GROW FROM A START UP
WITH ONLY TWELVE LAUNCHES. INTO
THE WORLD'S LEADING LAUNCHES
SPACE SERVICE PROVIDER WITH OVER
ELEVEN THOUSAND EMPLOYEES.
BASICALLY NOW COMPLETED OVER TWO
HUNDRED TWENTY LAUNCHES IN
SUPPORT OF CRITICAL NATIONAL
PRIORITIES. INCLUDING OUR FLY
MISSIONS TO THE INTERNATIONAL
SPACE STATION THE RETURN HUMAN
SPACEFLIGHT CAPABILITIES TO
UNITED STATES. JOINT NATIONAL
SATELLITE. NATIONAL SECURITY
SATELLITES COMMERCIAL SATELLITES
AND NEXT GENERATION BROADBAND
SERVICE. IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
SPACEX RETURN THE MAJORITY OF
THE WORLD SPACE LAUNCHES
PREVIOUSLY CEDED TO RUSSIA AND
CHINA TO AMERICAN SHORES. AND
I'M PRESIDENTE DEVELOPMENT IN
AMERICAN ACCESS TO SPACE. THAT
COULD NOT HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED
WITHOUT GREATLY EXPANDING OUR
NETWORK OF CALIFORNIA BASED
BUYERS. THE PROVISIONS INCLUDED
IN THIS BILL ENABLE SPACEX TO
SPEND OVER TWO BILLION DOLLARS.
ON OVER SEVENTEEN HUNDRED
CALIFORNIA SUPPLIERS LAST YEAR
THE FORTY MORE THAN FORTY FOUR
THOUSAND SMALL BUSINESS DROPS
ACROSS THE STATE. THIS BILL ALSO
HELPS BASIC EXPANDED ENGINEERING
AND MANUFACTURING OPERATIONS IN
HAWTHORNE. FOR MORE THAN THREE
THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED
ADDITIONAL HIGH SKILLED
MANUFACTURING AND ENGINEERING
JOBS HAVE BEEN CREATED SINCE
TWENTY THIRTEEN. REPRESENTING
10% ANNUAL JOB GROWTH EACH YEAR
AT THE BILL HAS BEEN IN EFFECT.
THIS EXPANSION HELP BY THE
PROVISION INCLUDING SENATE BILL
FOUR ONE NINE ALLOWS SPACEX
AUTUMN BASED EMPLOYEES TO PLAY A
CRITICAL ROLE. IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF SPACEX NEXT
GENERATION VEHICLE CALL STARSHIP
. BASIC THIS IS PROUD THAT
ENGINES BUILT BY CALIFORNIANS
WILL POWER THE VEHICLE THAT WILL
RETURN AMERICAN ASTRONAUTS TO
THE MOON. FOR THE FIRST TIME
SINCE NINETEEN SEVENTY TWO AND
MAKE HUMANS A MULTI PLANETARY
SPECIES. I'M BE OFFICE SPACE SIX
EIGHT THOUSAND CALIFORNIA BASED
EMPLOYEES THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME. AND YOUR WORK CHANGE FOR
CALIFORNIA MAINTAINS A STRONG
COMMERCIAL SPACE INDUSTRY
PROTECT COUNTY. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE
TODAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES THAT WOULD LIKE TO SET
UP TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT IN. ROOM
TWENTY ONE HUNDRED. LAWRENCE
GATE NUMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY SOCIAL
ASIAN AS WELL AS THE AEROSPACE
DEFENSE AN ALLIANCE OF
CALIFORNIA IN SHORT THANK THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THERE ANYONE ELSE
. SEEING NO FURTHER MOVEMENT IS
THERE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM AT
TWENTY ONE HUNDRED THAT WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION.
CNN WILL GO TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE IS THERE
ANYONE ON THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TEST
RIGHT EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION AT. OUT ON IS A ME
TOO. THANK YOU IF YOU ARE
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE PAUL BIGGER ON THIS
TIME AND VOEPEL ZERO. AND
MEDICARE NOBODY IS QUEUING UP
VERY GOOD WILL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR COMMENT CENTER
GLAZER. THANKS THIRTY WEDNESDAY
MORNING THE TALK MORE THAN I
TYPICALLY WOULD BUT- CENTER
ROCKED THE I KNOW THIS SET THIS
REFLECTS YOUR PASSION FOR- THE
JOBS IN THE INDUSTRY THAT COME
FROM YOUR PART OF THE WORLD AND-
YOU'D BE AT YOU KNOW. PRAISE FOR
THAT I THINK THAT THE THING THAT
YOU'RE IS TO BY THE WAY YEAH- A
LITTLE BIT- BUT YOU KNOW YOU YOU
ACCEPTED THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS WHICH REFERS TO A
REPORT IN A STUDY BEING DONE- I
MEAN TYPICALLY THE QUESTIONS
THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS RAISED
WOULD BE QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD
HAVE ANSWERED BEFORE VOTING ON
EXTENSION OF ATTACKS LIKE THIS
FOR TAX CREDIT LIKE THIS- AT THE
SAME TIME. THE EXTENSION ON THE
BILL- IS A SIGNIFICANT EXTENSION
OF THE TENURE EXTENSION. SO I'M
TRYING TO RECONCILE THE VALUE
THAT THE COMMITTEE STAFFERS
POINTED OUT IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE
OF THIS TAX CREDIT TERMS OF
EMPLOYMENT AND THE REST IT'S NOT
A TEXTURES. OKAY HE'S NAME.
WHICH IS WHAT IF I MAY THE
QUESTIONS TYPICALLY AROSE
SEVERAL YEARS AGO PRETTY TAX
EXEMPTION THAT CONSIDER WALK WAS
THAT YOUR THE COMMITTEES THAT
RECALL. AND WE PUT IN PLACE
CERTAIN PARAMETERS FOR TAX
CREDITS. PROVING UP JOBS WHICH
WE DO FOR THE FILM INDUSTRY.
JOBS IMPACT ON ON THE ECONOMY
AND ALL FREDDIE THINGS NOT TO
SAY THAT SHOULDN'T BE DONE. IN
THIS SITUATION WHICH IS WHY OF
COURSE ACCEPTED THE AMENDMENTS
WHICH WERE SUGGESTED THEY WERE
NOT IN PLACE WHEN THE ORIGINAL
A. B. WAS PASSED IN TWO THOUSAND
FOURTEEN. GOT IT I'M IS WHAT
YOU'RE A MISFORTUNE BILL TODAY
BUT I THINK THAT- I THINK THAT
THE FLY. AS I SEE GOING FORWARD
IS THAT THIS TYPE OF THE IN
ALICE'S TO HELP US MAKE THESE
KINDS OF JUDGMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE
GONNA. WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH ALL
KINDS OF OTHER TAX CREDIT
ISSUES. PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION
ISSUES GOING FORWARD TODAY BUT-
IS THAT WE IT'S REALLY HARD TO
KIND OF PUT ALL THAT STUFF
TOGETHER AND MAKE GOOD CHOICES
ABOUT. WHERE OUR REVENUES GOT
BECAUSE I WAS GONNA REDUCE
REVENUES- AND SO I GUESS I WOULD
ASK IS THAT AS THE BILL MOVES
FORWARD THAT YOU CONSIDER
WHETHER OR NOT THIS EXTENSION OF
TEN YEARS IS THE APPROPRIATE
AMOUNT OF TIME. GIVEN THE STUDY
THAT YOU THE KNOWLEDGE WOULD
BRING SOMEBODY. I THINK WE'LL
MANAGER FIVE YES PLEASE I THINK
THE WITNESS IDENTIFIED AND
CERTAINLY I CAN CLARIFY. JOBS
INCREASED IN THE NUMBER OF- OF-
DOLLARS SAID TO. PUT BACK INTO
THE ECONOMY IT'S RATHER
SIGNIFICANT THE INDUSTRY ITSELF
IS DONE ITS OWN ANALYSIS PERHAPS
NOT AS THOROUGH AS- WE WILL DO
WITH THESE AMENDMENTS IN PLACE
BUT THE TESTIMONY CERTAINLY.
TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF JUDGE
JOBS THAT WERE INCREASED IN THE
NUMBER OF. THE BUSINESSES THAT
EXPANDED IN THE VENDORS AROUND
THE STATE THAT CONTRIBUTE TO
THIS INDUSTRY. I WILL POINT OUT
FOR THOSE OF YOU SINCE WE KEEP
TALKING ABOUT TAX CREDITS AND I
UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE IT'S SORT
OF WONKY. BUT THE CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTION AS YOU MAY KNOW
THIS IS ALL PROPERTIES TAXED.
THE ISSUE IS SINCE NINETEEN
EIGHTY ONE. REVENUE AND TAXATION
CODE IN THE STATE. IS SAID THAT
BUSINESS INVENTORY WHICH THIS IS
NOT TAXED. THE ISSUE FOR THE
SPACE INDUSTRY IS BUSINESS
INVENTORY IS DEFINED AS AN BUT
INVENTORY HELD FOR SALE OR
LEASE. THAT'S WHAT CUT COMMONLY
YOU DO IF YOU HAVE BUSINESS
INVENTORY NEW MANUFACTURING. AS
THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION
OPINION RECOGNIZED WHEN IT WAS
ISSUED IN WHAT TWO THOUSAND
THIRTEEN. THIS IS A UNIQUE
INDUSTRY. THE BUSINESS AND THIS
INVENTORY IN THE SPACE INDUSTRY
IS NOT REALLY HELD FOR SALE OR
LEASE. IT LAUNCHES VEHICLES IT
EITHER BLOWS UP IN SPACE OR WHEN
IT COMES BACK AT LEAST CURRENTLY
IT'S NOT USABLE. SO IT'S NOT
HELD FOR SALE AT LEAST KNOW WHAT
THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION DID IN
ITS OPINION. IN RECOGNIZING THAT
WAS WAS TO SAY SINCE IT'S NOT
HELD FOR SALE OR LEASE BUT THIS
IS A UNIQUE INDUSTRY. THE SALE
OF THIS BUSINESS INDUSTRY IS
REESE RESTRICTED BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. THE
EXPORT ACTS THAT DEAL WITH
DEFENSE- EQUIPMENT. AND IN THIS
PARTICULAR CASE WHEN'S WHEN.
WHEN AND WHEN AN INDUSTRY
PARTNER SPACEX OR VIRGIN
GALACTIC OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO
DOES IT. LAUNCHES A VEHICLE AT
THE POINT OF LAUNCH ON THE PAD.
THE CONTROL ABSOLUTE CONTROL AND
ESSENTIALLY TITLE TO THE
EQUIPMENT TRANSFERS TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. AND THE
MANUFACTURER HAS NO CONTROL OVER
THE EQUIPMENT AT THAT POINT
WHICH THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION
SAID WAS TANTAMOUNT. TO A SALE
OR LEASE. SO BUSINESS INVENTORY
HELD FOR ZERO LEASING CALIFORNIA
HAS NOT BEEN TAX PERSONAL
PROPERTY SINCE NINETEEN EIGHTY
ONE WE'RE SIMPLY THROUGH THIS
BILL AND THE MERCY CHI BILL AB
SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN. ATTEMPTING TO
SORT OF FIT THIS UNIQUE
SITUATION. INTO OUR REVENUE AND
TAXATION CODE IF THAT HELPS TELL
YOU WHERE WE ARE. SENATOR DOLLY
THANK YOU THAT WAS ACTUALLY VERY
INFORMATIVE I APPRECIATE THAT IS
SO IS IT. IS IT UN SECURED OR IS
IT. TOO IS IT ONTO YOUR OWN
SECURED ROLES PROPERTY THAT. IS
NOT ATTACHED TO A PROPERTY SO
FOR EXAMPLE. I'M A FARMER HAVE A
TRACTOR ITS MOBILE IT'S STILL
IT'S AN SECURE ROLE I PAY TAX ON
IT. AND IT WHEREVER IT'S PARKED
IF IT FIVE PROPERTY ONE COUNTY
VERSUS ANOTHER WEBER THAT
TRACTORS PARKED AS OF JANUARY
ONE IS THE COUNTY I PAID THE
UNSECURED ROLAND. SO FOR THIS IF
IT'S IN SPACE I DEFERRED TO
STEFAN I'M NOT CERTAIN A TAX
EXPERT I WILL SAY THAT IF YOUR
TRACTOR. BURNED UP EVERY TIME
YOU YOU KNOW BUTTERFIELD YOU
PROBABLY BE MORE CANDID THE
SPACE INDUSTRY. YES SENATORS THE
MEASURE IS THAT EXEMPTION FROM
PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX WHICH IS
ON THE UNSECURED ROLES GENERAL
MATTER OKAY THANK YOU. FETTERS
HERE. TO- BOY DO I LOVE THAT I
WORK DOWN IN THAT AREA- I WAS
ABLE TO ACTUALLY TO. WITNESS
FIRST IT'S ONE THING TO TALK
ABOUT THE TRADE OFF BETWEEN
PROPERTY TAXES AND- AND THE
BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY- BUT
IT'S ANOTHER THING TO SEE IT
FIRST HAND- I WORKED IN THE
COMMUNITY RIGHT NEXT TO
HAWTHORNE. AND THIS IS ONE OF
THOSE IS A ROUTE TODAY USED TO
DRIVE TO WORK. AND PASS BY THIS
AREA. ALL THE TIME. PRETTY MUCH
EVERY EVERY SHIFT. AND I'M
WATCHING IT GO FROM WHAT IT WAS
AND THE DEPRESSED ECONOMIC
CONDITION OF THAT ENTIRE. SQUARE
MILE AROUND IT- TO WHAT IT IS
TODAY. IS AMAZING- THE FIRST
THING THAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY
TOOK IT OVER FROM I THINK IT WAS
HUGHES- A REVITALIZED THE
AIRPORT- IT SPURRED A SHOPPING
CENTER. ACROSS THE STREET AND
IN. THE SHOPPING CENTERS IN
THOSE AREAS. FAILED MISERABLY
ALL THE TIME. BUT THIS ONE
BROUGHT IN A SHOPPING CENTER-
WITH THE LOWS- I'VE HAD SOME
OTHER. GOOD RETAIL STORES SOME
RESTAURANTS. AND IT'S JUST RIGHT
ACROSS THE STREET AND A LOT OF
THAT WAS FUELED BY THE AMOUNT OF
PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING AT
SPACEX- SO THE SO WHEN YOU'RE
LOOKING AT A PROPERTY TAX-
AMOUNT. VERSES JUST THE SALES
TAX AND RETAIL ECONOMIC BENEFIT
THAT'S ONE THING BUT THE OTHER
THING THAT YOU NOTICE AND WE
NOTICED IN OUR AREA DID THAT I
WORKED IN WAS. WE HAD A LOT OF
BUSINESSES THAT POPPED UP. IN
THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS THIS
SUPPORTED. ALL OF THE NEEDS OF
SPACEX SO YOU HAD PEOPLE GOING
TO WORK- MAKING COMPONENTS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT THE SPACEX
NEEDED. AND AND SO THERE IS THAT
BENEFIT AND THAT BENEFIT OTHER
AREAS AROUND IT SO THIS IS BEEN
A MASSIVE. INFLUX OF ECONOMIC
BENEFIT. FOR AN AREA THAT NOW
HOUSE A STADIUM AND ALL THIS AND
THEY WERE HEADED NOWHERE BUT
DOWN IN THE EIGHTIES. AND WHEN
THEY INTRODUCED A SPACEX INTO
THAT- IT THAT SHOWS WHAT THE
ECONOMIC BENEFIT AND IT FAR
OUTWEIGHS. WHAT THEY WOULD BE
GETTING IN PROPERTY TAXES FOR
THE AREA- SO- SO I'VE SEEN IT-
I'M A BELIEVER AND I THINK.
ENSURING THAT WE ATE WE RETAIN
THOSE JOBS WE HAVE KIDS THAT
THAT ARE GRADUATING FROM SCHOOLS
WITH ENGINEERING DEGREES. AT AND
THEY DON'T HAVE PLACES TO WORK
NECESSARILY. BUT THIS PLACE I'VE
I KNOW A FEW KIDS THAT HAVE I'VE
GONE AND WORKED HERE FOR- SPACEX
SO- SO I THINK IT'S WORTH ABOUT
WORTH WHAT YOU DOING CENTER ROTH
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING
THIS- I THINK IT. WOULD NEEDS TO
CONTINUE THAT THAT ECONOMIC
BENEFIT THAT IT BRINGS AND- SO
I'LL BE UP OF COURSE SUPPORTING
YOUR BILL TODAY. AND AND ALSO
MAKE A MOTION FOR THE FOR THE
BILL WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE A
MOTION- CENTER DOLLY JUST ONE
QUICK FOLLOW UP SO YOU MENTIONED
THAT. ONCE IT'S LAUNCHED IT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHO IS THIS
IS I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH. WHAT
HAPPENS THERE- BUT IS IT ALL.
BUT IT'S IS ALL GOVERNMENT- FOR
DEFENSE OR IS THERE PRIVATE-
SATELLITES OR SOMETHING IT'S
LAUNCH THERE'S FOR PRIVATE
ENTERPRISE AS WELL NO THESE ARE
. THESE ARE- ARE PRIVATE
COMPANIES THAT ARE PRIVATELY
HELD COMPANIES THEY'RE CALLING
REGARDING THIS IS UNDER HIS OF
THE ONE THAT'S MOST. VIRGIN
GALACTIC IS ANOTHER THERE ARE
OTHER COMPANIES OTHERS WE HOPE.
COME FORWARD BECAUSE OF COURSE
THE GOVERNMENT IS. IS TO SOME
EXTENT BACKED OUT OF THE-
OPERATING SPACE TRANSPORT
VEHICLES I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS
CURRENT STATUSES MAYBE THERE ARE
SOME BUT MOSTLY IF YOU NOTICE
FROM THE NEWS. SPACEX IS
LAUNCHING AN- OF A QUITMAN
PERSONNEL TO THE INTERNATIONAL
SPACE HAS LAUNCHED TO THE
INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION AND
I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE
OF THAT. AS SPACE EXPLORATION
CONTINUES WHICH IS WHY. IN THE
CURRENT BUSINESS MODEL. WE NEED
TO TRY TO FIT WHAT THEY DO
WITHIN OUR CURRENT REVENUE AND
TAXATION CODE FOR THE POSITION
DID SO IN THE OPINION BUT I
THINK WE AND IT WAS CODIFIED OF
COURSE WHICH IN STATUTE NOW.
IT'S GOING TO EXPIRE I THINK WE
NEED TO EXTEND IT AND THEN WE
NEED TO PROVIDE THE- REPORTS
THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS REQUESTED
IN MY COLLEAGUES. OF THINK
REPORT AND ACTUALLY I THINK
REPORT WE NEED TO JUSTIFY THESE.
WEATHER EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A
TAX CREDIT AGAINST INCOME- IT IS
A PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION OR
EXCEPTION AND- THAT HAS SOME
IMPACT AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WELL I WANNA I WANNA SECOND
THAT POSITIVE COMMENTS HAD BEEN
MADE UP TO THIS POINT I AM. THIS
MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME TWO
BILLION DOLLARS IN IN- ECONOMIC
IMPACT IT. CAN BENEFIT THE STATE
EIGHT THOUSAND EMPLOYEES- THE-
AEROSPACE INDUSTRY IS ALWAYS
BEEN- A CORNERSTONE OF
CALIFORNIA- OF THE CALIFORNIA
COMPANY KANEMI AND- I'D LIKE TO
SEE IT CONTINUE. AND AS WAS
MENTIONED THE JOBS THAT ARE THAT
A CREATURE TREMENDOUSLY
IMPORTANT IN OUR UNIVERSITY
SYSTEM SELF- CENTER DRIVE SO I
KEEP ASKING IS. HE STILL SAY NO
BUT I'M NOT IGNORING YOUR- I
KNOW. OF I APOLOGIZE- NO PROBLEM
THINGS COME TO MIND AFTER AFTER
YOU ASK ME- I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THE BILL- SENATOR- AND AS-
SERICA YOU. MENTIONED THIS
INDUSTRY. HAS A HISTORY OF
PROVIDING GOOD JOBS- SPACE
INDUSTRY. UNFORTUNATELY THERE
ARE SOME COMPANIES THAT DON'T
LIVE UP. TO THOSE STANDARDS
DON'T LIVE UP TO. THE TREATMENT
ON LABOR ISSUES THAT THEY
SHOULD. OF PARTICULARLY SPACEX-
AND SO WELL I DON'T WANNA MAKE
THAT THE STANDARD FOR-
SUPPORTING YOUR BILL I THINK
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO RAISE
THE ISSUE OF. OUR COMPANY THAT
COULD GET THIS KIND OF
EXEMPTION- SHOULD ALSO BE FAR
MORE- RESPECTFUL OF THE LABOR
LAWS- ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY COME
TO THEIR EMPLOYEES WANTING TO
UNIONIZE SO. I'M MENTIONING THAT
BECAUSE SPACEX HAS BEEN- YOU
KNOW RAISED HERE AS ONE OF THE
COMPANIES THAT COULD BENEFIT.
THAT PART BOTHERS ME BUT I USED
I KNOW YOU YOU AND I SUPPORT
YOUR BILL. VERY GOOD IF I MAY
YOU MAY CONCLUDE- CENTER THANK
YOU I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS
AND I ASSURE THEM OBVIOUSLY THIS
IS A OF. A PROPERTY TAX
EXCEPTION OR EXEMPTION PERSONAL
PROPERTY TAX AT A PLACE INDUSTRY
WIDE SO IT'S CERTAINLY TO MORE
COMPANIES HOPEFULLY MORE IN THE
FUTURE THAN THE ONE YOU
IDENTIFIED I THINK WE NEED TO
PERHAPS ADDRESS THAT- CERTAINLY
IN ANOTHER WAY. BUT IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT. AND. I GUESS I JUST
WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR
PATIENCE OF THE ISSUE AND OF ME
. THANK THANK YOU FOR YOUR
EXPLANATION AND- WE DO HAVE A
MOTION. AND IF WE AS FOR A VOTE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. MOTION IS TO PASS A
CEMENTED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS SENATORS
CABALLERO HI CABALLERO ICR TWO
ZERO TWO I LAKE SUPERIOR DALI.
DALI I DO WRESTLE BUT ALSO I
GLAZERS GLAZER AYE SKINNER
WIENER FRIDAY ZERO. FIVE ZERO
THAT BILL IS OUT WILL PUT IT ON
CALL FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS
THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH THANK
YOU VERY MUCH- CENTER LIMÓN IT
LOOKS LIKE YOUR APPETITE AM I
MISSING EITHER CENTER BY THE
YEAH. NO NO OUR CENTER BRADFORD
OKAY EUROPE THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER NINE WHICH IS S. S. B.
FIVE THIRTY THREE. THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR AND SENATORS FIRST
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS
BILL AND WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT
THEIR SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS. I
PRESENT TO YOU SB FIVE THREE
THREE A BILL THAT TO PROVIDES A
30% TAX CREDIT FOR THE COST
INCURRED BY A TAXPAYER FOR CHILD
CARE PROGRAM STARTED START UP
EXPENSES AND FOR. THE COST PAID
BY THE TAXPAYER FOR
CONTRIBUTIONS TO A QUALIFIED
CARE PLAN. ACCESSING POLITY AND
AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE IS A
CONSISTENT CHALLENGE FOR OUR
WORKING FAMILIES WERE EVER
INCREASING DEMAND FOR CARE
FREQUENTLY SERVE PLASTER PASSES
THE SUPPLY. SINGLE MOTHERS ARE
OFTEN HIT THE HARDEST BY HIGH
COST OF CHILD CARE AND SPEND A
MAJORITY OF THEIR INCOME
ENSURING THEIR CHILDREN RECEIVE
CARE WHILE THEY MAKE ENDS MEET.
ACCORDING TO TWENTY FOURTEEN
DATA A TYPICAL MOTHER WITH TWO
CHILDREN ME SPEND AROUND SEVENTY
PERCENT. OF HER INCOME ON
CHILDCARE AT A LICENSED CHILD
CARE CENTER. THIS BILL RE
INTRODUCES A TAX CREDIT THAT
EXISTED IN THIS STATE FROM
NINETEEN EIGHTY EIGHT TO TWENTY
TWELVE. WITH ON AVERAGE OVER TEN
THOUSAND CHILDREN BENEFITING
FROM. THE CREDITS EACH YEAR. SB
FIVE THREE THREE THE CENTRAL TO
INCENTIVIZE BUSINESS BUSINESSES
TO INVEST IN THEIR EMPLOYEES.
AND THEIR FAMILIES AND TO ADD IN
THE NEED FOR MORE CHILD CARE
FACILITIES WITHIN CALIFORNIA
WITH ME TODAY SUPPORTING THE
BILL IS PRESSING YOUNG ADVOCATE
FOR CALCHAMBER AND SYLVIA SO HE
SHOT ADVOCATE FOR THE CITY OF
THE LIDA. VERY GOOD WELCOME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH- MANAGER
COMMITTEE MEMBERS- PRESS YOUNG
FOR THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT
OF SB FIVE THREE THREE FIRST
OFF- THANK YOU TO THE SENATOR TO
THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT'S GONE
INTO THIS BILL. IN THE COVER
NINETEEN PANDEMIC APPROXIMATELY
A HUNDRED TEN THOUSAND CHILD
CARE WORKERS LEFT THE LABOR
FORCE AND MANY CHILD CARE
CENTERS THAT HAD TO SHUT DOWN
EARLY IN THE PANDEMIC. ENDED UP
CLOSING PERMANENTLY. THERE'S A
CHILD CARE CRISIS IN CALIFORNIA
THAT'S IMPACTING OUR STATE'S
EMPLOYERS AS WELL AS OUR WORKING
FAMILIES. IN THIS BILL BEGINS TO
ADDRESS THAT ISSUE THIS BILL
WILL ASSIST CALIFORNIA'S ECONOMY
BY PROVIDING A TAX CREDIT TO
EMPLOYERS. THAT PAY FOR CHILD
CARE PROGRAMS WERE CONSTRUCTED
SHELTER FACILITY TO BE USED
PRIMARILY BY THEIR EMPLOYEES
CHILDREN. AND IT ALSO PROVIDES A
TAX CREDIT FOR CHILD CARE
CONTRIBUTIONS. EMPLOYER
COMMUNITY RECOGNIZES THE
IMPORTANCE OF A ROBUST CHILD
CARE SYSTEM TO AVOID- TO ASSIST
WORKING FAMILIES. SOME COMPANIES
SUPPORT THEIR WORKERS THROUGH ON
SITE- CHILD CARE. ALLOWING
CHILDREN THE WORKPLACE HELPING
EMPLOYEES PAY FOR BACK UP
CHILDCARE OR ALLOWING NEW
PARENTS TO WORK PART TIME
REMOTELY. IN INTERVIEWING
EMPLOYERS ON THIS TOPIC- RENTING
OR BUILDING EVEN A SMALL CHILD
CARE CENTER COST MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS TO THE SPECIFICATIONS
REQUIRED FOR SUCH CENTERS IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SO THIS TAX
CREDIT COULD PROVIDE SOME
ASSISTANCE TOWARDS THAT BARRIER.
THE BILL MEARS A TAX CREDIT THAT
WAS AVAILABLE IN THE STATE UNTIL
TWO THOUSAND AND TWELVE JUST TO
GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT IN TIME
ABOUT. THE RESULTS AND THE
IMPACT OF THAT CREDIT. IN THE
FINAL YEAR OF THE CREDIT ONE
POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IN
CREDITS WERE CLAIMED BY OVER
FOUR THOUSAND TAXPAYERS IN TWO
THOUSAND AND TEN. TWO MILLION
CREDITS- TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN
CREDITS WERE CLAIMED BY OVER
FIVE THOUSAND TAXPAYERS BASED ON
CALTRAIN RIPPLING. COST IS THE
MOST SIGNIFICANT BERRIER IN
INCREASING CHILD CARE RELATED
EMPLOYEE BENEFITS 72% OF
EMPLOYERS SAY THEY LACK
RESOURCES TO INVEST MORE IN
CHILD CARE. CALIFORNIA'S
WILLINGNESS TO ASSIST EMPLOYERS
WHO WANT TO INVEST IN CHILD CARE
FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE
SUPPORTED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND CONSIDERATION TODAY
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR RIVAL
. IN THE TIME COMES. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBER SYLVIA SOLUTION
ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
OF GALEGO WHICH IS IN CENTER
LOANS DISTRICT. THE CITY GOALIE
IS STRONGLY SUPPORTS SB FIVE
THREE THREE WHICH WILL ADDRESS
THE LACK OF CHILD CARE IN OUR
STATE. WHICH IMPACTS OUR OVERALL
ECONOMY AND THE WELL BEING OF
OUR FAMILIES. LAST YEAR THE
UNITED WAY OF SANTA BARBARA
COUNTY CONDUCTED A CHILD CARE
ASSESSMENT IN THE CITIES OF
SANTA BARBARA AND GO LITA AND
FOUND THAT. AND THAT ASSESSMENT
FOUND THAT THE AVERAGE DUAL
INCOME HOUSEHOLD IN SANTA
BARBARA COUNTY WITH TWO
CHILDREN. AGES ZERO TO FIVE
SPEND. AT A MINIMUM 37% OF THEIR
MONTHLY INCOME ON CHILD CARE
COSTS THAT'S FOR DUAL INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS. YES SAYS MEN ALSO
FOUND THAT THERE ARE OVER ONE
THOUSAND PARENTS ON THE
WEIGHTLESS FOR INFANT AND
TODDLER TODDLER CHILD CARE
SPACES AND OVER ELEVEN HUNDRED
PARENTS ARE ON THE WAIT LIST FOR
CHILDREN AGES THREE TO FOUR
YEARS OLD. THE CITY RECOGNIZES
THE PROBLEMS POSED BY THE LACK
OF AVAILABLE CHILD CARE AND HAS
IMPLEMENTED A PLAN TO ENCOURAGE
NEW FACILITIES INCLUDING. MODELS
OWNING REQUIREMENTS THE
ELIMINATION OF BUSINESS LICENSES
AND DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES FOR
IN HOME FAMILY CHILD CARE
PROVIDERS. HOWEVER THE TAX
CREDIT PROVIDED FOR IN THIS BILL
COULD BE THE CRITICAL PIECE
NEEDED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF
CHILD CARE SLOTS IN OUR REGION
AND STATEWIDE AND WE THINK THE
CENTER FOSTERING THIS PICTURE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THERE ANYONE
ELSE IN SUPPORT. MORNING MADAM
CHAIR AND SENATORS ROSANNA
CAMACHO LEN HERE BEHALF OF EARLY
CARE AND EDUCATION CONSORTIUM.
IN STRONG SUPPORT AND THANK THE
SENATOR FOR HER COMMITMENT TO
TRYING TO GROW THE CHILD CARE
SPACE. OKAY VERY MUCH IS THERE
ANYONE ELSE IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED. SEEING NO MOVEMENT IS
THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. SEEING
MEN WILL GO TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE MODERATE IF
YOU COULD QUEUE UP ANYONE WHO
WOULD. LIKE TO TESTIFY EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION ON THE
TELECONFERENCE. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR I BELIEVE WE'RE ON SP FIVE
THREE THREE IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE. EIGHT ZERO IF THIS
TIME. BENCHER NOBODY IS QUEUING
UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WILL
BRING THE BILL BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS
CONCERNS. ISSUES RAISED THE MOVE
THE BILL. THERE IS A MOTION TO
MOVE THE BELL. SECTOR-LIMÓN YOU
MAY CONCLUDE AND I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS THIS
IS- CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. THIS
DETERMINES WHETHER PARENTS HAVE
THE ABILITY TO WORK AND WHERE
THEY'RE GOING TO WORK THEY HAVE
A SAFE AND SECURE PLACE FOR
THEIR CHILDREN AND SO- THAT THIS
INDUSTRY WAS DECIMATED DURING
THAT- THE PANDEMIC AND NOW IT'S
TIME TO. BEEF IT UP AND SO THANK
YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR
YOKE ON THIS- WITH THAT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH-
PLEASE CALL ZERO. MOTION IS TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATION SENATORS
CABALLERO HI CABALLERO AYE C. R.
TWO. THERE ARE TOO HIGH LAKE
SUPERIOR DALI. DALI I DO WRESTLE
. RUSSELL I GLAZER GLAZER AYE
SKINNER. ENTER I WIENER. SIX TWO
ZERO. SIX ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT
WILL LEAVE IT ON CALL FOR THE
ABSENT MEMBERS. I AM LOOKING
AROUND AND I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER
MEMBERS HERE READY TO GO SO
SENATOR TAPE HE FIRED SO YOU'RE
UP. WILL TAKE UP WILL START WITH
FILE ITEM NUMBER FIFTEEN.
ASSEMBLY LIKE HURTLING THE- THAT
IS THE ODD THE CONSTRUCTION OF
HIS PLACE HE'S. FILE ITEM NUMBER
FIFTEEN S. B. TWO TWENTY ONE.
SENATOR THE FLOOR'S YOURS THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR I'M HERE TO
PRESENT SB TWO TO ONE. AND FIRST
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF- THEY DINNER
GREAT JOB WORKING WITH MY STAFF
TO HELP REFORM AND REFORM THE
AMENDMENTS- FOR THIS IMPORTANT
BILL- DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS ONE
OF THE PRIMARY CAUSES OF
HOMELESSNESS FOR WOMEN AND THEIR
CHILDREN. WITH WOMEN ACCOUNTING
FOR SIXTY FIVE PERCENT. OF ON
HOUSE TO SURVIVORS FROM TWO
THOUSAND NINETEEN THE TWO
THOUSAND TWENTY TWO ALONE. THE
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ASSISTANT
PROGRAM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM
SERVED ALMOST NINETEEN THOUSAND
INDIVIDUALS. BUT YET THERE WERE
TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND REQUESTS
THAT FOR SHELTER THAT WENT ON
MATT. ON AVERAGE WOMEN WAIT MATE
YEAH WOMEN WAIT MORE THAN TEN
YEARS TO EXCESS STABLE HOUSING A
RATE TWICE THAT OF MEN. WITH
WOMEN BEING FORCED TO MAKE A
CHOICE TO STAY IN DANGER WITH
THEIR ABUSERS OR SCAPE WITH
NOWHERE TO GO. OFTENTIMES
ESCAPING AN ABUSER MEANS RUNNING
SOMETIMES FOR ONE'S LIFE AT THE
FIRST CHANCE AND LEAVING
EVERYTHING BEHIND. SURVIVORS
THEN HAVE TO FACE THE EXPERIENCE
OF HAVING NOWHERE TO SLEEP FOR
THE FIRST TIME. MANY SURVIVORS
OR SURVIVORS EXPERIENCE
CONNECTING WITH HANDFULS OF
SHELTER RESOURCES. ONLY TO BE
TURNED DOWN BY THE VERY
ORGANIZATIONS THEY'VE BEEN
REFERRED TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE
COMPLICATED. EVEN IF SURVIVORS
ARE AWARE OF ALL THE AVAILABLE
SHELTER BEDS OUT THERE THEY
STILL CANNOT PLAN AHEAD TO MOVE
IN. BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THEY'RE
STILL HOUSE WITH ONE OF THE MANY
REQUIREMENTS BEING SURVIVORS
MUST BE HOMELESS TO BE ACCEPTED
INTO THE SHELTER. MOREOVER THE
THOSE APPLYING FOR A SPOT IN
TRANSITIONAL HOMELESS SHELTERS
HAVE TO BE ON HOUSE FOR A WHOLE
YEAR TO QUALIFY. WITH SHELTERS
ACTIVELY PRIORITIZING THE MOST
IN NEED. SOME SHELTERS I'M SORRY
SOME ORGANIZATIONS ONLY TAKES
SURVIVORS WHO HAVE BEEN
PHYSICALLY HARMED IN THE LAST
THIRTY DAYS EVEN IF THE VIOLENCE
IS THE REASON FOR BECOMING ON
HOUSE. SO EVEN IF THE SURVIVORS
DO MEET ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS
SPACE IS LIMITED IN L. A. COUNTY
THERE ABOUT ONE THOUSAND BEDS
EMERGENCY AND TRANSITIONAL
SHELTERS FOR SURVIVORS AND
THAT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TO MEET
THIS DEMAND. CALIFORNIA
CONTINUES TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT
OF TRYING TO INNOVATE RESPONSES
TO HOMELESSNESS AND DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE BY ENSURING RELEVANT
SERVICE PROVIDERS LIKE
NONPROFITS ARE INCORPORATED IN
LOCAL PLANNING. UNFORTUNATELY
STRAIN ON HOUSING RESOURCES
WITHIN THE STATE LIMITS THE
ABILITY TO PROVIDE TRANSITIONAL
HOUSING DO THESE WOMEN AND THEIR
CHILDREN. NONPROFITS WHO ARE
DEDICATED TO ASSISTING SURVIVORS
WITH HOUSING RESOURCES SITE
CALIFORNIA'S HIGH COST RENTAL
MARKETS AND LANDLORDS RELUCTANCE
AS A HINDRANCE IN IDENTIFYING
HOUSING PARTNERS. MY BILL SB TWO
TWO ONE SEEKS TO REMEDY THE
HOUSING GAP BY GRANTING A TAX
CREDIT. INDIVIDUAL PARTNERED
WITH NONPROFIT SERVICE PROVIDERS
DEDICATED TO ASSISTING WITH
PROVIDING TRADITION TRANSITIONAL
HOUSING AT BELOW MARKET RATES TO
SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
WITH THEIR CREDIT BEING EQUAL TO
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
DISCOUNTED RATE AND THE MARKET
RATE. WITH SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND THEIR CHILDREN
MAKING UP NEARLY 70% OF ON
HOUSING CALIFORNIA ALONG WITH
THEIR CHILDREN AND NONPROFIT
STRUGGLING TO PROVIDE HOUSING.
FOR THIS AT RISK POPULATION
CREATING NEW WAYS TO BEAT THE
HOUSING CRISIS THROUGH CREATING
AN INCENTIVE STRUCTURE. FOR
THESE PARTNERSHIPS WILL CLOSE
THE HOUSING GAP. OR SURVIVORS OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MEMBERS I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
AND I DID NOT BRING ANY.
WITNESSES TODAY THANK. THANKS
VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE WHO
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
. ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. SCENE NINE
NOBODY RISES OR ANYBODY WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION.
NOBODY MOVING WILL GO TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE IS OR
ANYBODY ON THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR OF YOUR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SENATE
BILL TWO TWO ONE PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. AFTER
NOBODY IS QUEUING UP. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH I WILL BRING IT BACK
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND SEE IF
THERE'S THERE ANY COMMENTS
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS CENTER
GLAZER MOVES THE BILL. I DON'T
SEE ANY ANYBODY BUT LET ME JUST
SAY THAT I THINK THIS IS A
REALLY CREATIVE WAY OF TRYING TO
FILL A GAP THAT THERE'S- THERE'S
OBVIOUSLY A HUGE NEED- THE
INTEREST IS PROTECTING CHILDREN
AND- THAT ABUSED SPOUSE AND SO.
THE MORE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE
ALTERNATIVE AND PLACES FOR THEM
TO MOVE TO GET OUT OF A
DANGEROUS SITUATION THE BETTER
IT IS SO ALLOW YOU TO. CONCLUDE
THANK YOU SO MUCH- IN MY
DISTRICT THERE ARE SOME NON
PROFITS OUT THERE THIS IS THE
NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE
IS FINDING THE ACTUAL SPACE FOR
THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THEM-
FOR THIS TYPE OF ASSISTANCE AND
DOES SO WITH THAT I ASK FOR YOUR
AYE VOTE RESPECTFULLY THANK YOU.
VERY GOOD THERE IS A MOTION BY
SENATOR GLAZERS I DO PASSED
APPROPRIATION ONE. SENATORS
CABALLERO HI CABALLERO ICE HERE
TO. HI THERE TÔI LAKE SUPERIOR
DALI. DALI I THE RUSSELL GRASSO
I'D GLAZERS GLAZER AYE SKINNER.
ENTER I'M WIENER. SIX TWO ZERO
SIX ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT WILL
PUT IT ON CALL FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS. YOUR NEXT BILL IS. FILE
ITEM NUMBER SIX. IT CENTERS
AFTER- IF I COULD I UNDERSTAND
SENATOR BRADFORD IS HERE IN THE
ROOM. OF HIS CONDUCT SUCH- HE
CAN SEND A AYE BRADFORD BORN
HAPPY TO ALLOW HIM TO VERY GOOD-
TAKE HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE AHEAD OF
ME IN THE- PREDATOR BRADFORD.
FILE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. SB FIVE
TWELVE WE SKIPPED OVER YOU MIGHT
MY SINCERE APOLOGIES WE- HOLDEN
THAT ARE LOOKING FOR AUTHORS
AND- NOT AT ALL. WELCOME TO THE
COMMITTEE AND- THAT FLOOR'S
YOURS THANK YOU MANAGER AND I
WANT TO START BY THANKING THE
COMMITTEE STAFF AND YOU FOR AT
THE MOMENT. AND WERE. WANTING
KNOWLEDGE OR TAKEN COMMITTEE
MEMONS- SB FIVE TWELVE. WOULD
EXCLUDE THE STATE'S CANNABIS
EXCISE TAX AS WELL AS OTHER
LOCAL TAXES FROM DEFINITION OF
GROSS RECEIPTS UNDER THE SALES.
AND USE TAX LAW. THIS BILL WILL
IN WHAT IS CURRENTLY UNFAIR
PRACTICE OF ADDING BOTH THE
CANNABIS EXCISE TAX AND LOCAL-
CANNABIS STOCKS TO TAXABLE GROSS
WROTE REVENUES SUBJECT TO THE
SALES. AND USE TAX LAST YEAR THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED A. B. BOB THE
NINETEEN ONE NINE FIVE WHICH DID
SEVERAL THINGS INCLUDING
SUSPENDING THE CULTIVATION TAX
SHIFTING COLLECTION OF EXCISE
TAX FROM. THE DISTRIBUTOR TO THE
POINT OF SALE- AS A REYES
DISHWASHER AS DID BE SMALL
RETAILERS IN EQUITY OPERATORS.
AB ONE NINE FIVE FOR OUT PROVIDE
BENEFITS THAT CULTIVATORS AND
LABOR. BUT DID LITTLE FOR
RETAILERS AND ULTIMI INDIVIDUALS
LOOKING TO BUY CANNABIS- FROM
THE LEGAL MARKET AS WELL. JUST
THAT MEASURE PASSED SOME
MUNICIPALITIES HAVE IMPOSE
ADDITIONAL BURDENS- BY MANDATING
THAT CANNABIS BUSINESSES INCLUDE
EXCISE TAX COLLECTED AS PART OF
THEIR GROSS RECEIPTS
CALCULATION. ADDITIONALLY
RECENT- GUIDANCE ISSUED BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF TAX AND- FEE
ADMINISTRATION PROVIDES FOR AN
EXPANDED APPROACH TO THE EXCISE
TAX CALCULATION INCLUSIVE OF
DELIVERY FEES AND LOCAL CANNABIS
TAXES. TAXES AS A- TAXING THE
TAX AND ALL TO ME INCREASING
PURCHASE PRICES DID USED THE
INCENTIVIZE IS THE CONSUMER FROM
PURCHASING FROM LEGAL RETAILERS
AND ONLY ADDS TO THE ILLEGAL
MARKET RIGHT NOW WHICH AND THERE
AS WE KNOW THE LEGAL MARKETERS
DEFINITION DRUG GOING TO STAY
AFLOAT. THIS BILL DOES TWO VERY
SIMPLE THINGS LOCAL TAXES DO NOT
INCLUDE TAX SIZE TAX OR THE
SALES TAX AND USE TAX AND THE
SALES TO SALES AND USE TAX DOES
NOT INCLUDE EXCISE TAX OR ANY
LOCAL TAXES BY MAKING THESE
CLARIFICATIONS AS P. FIVE ONE
TWO WILL HELP. REMEDY THE
SITUATION BY ENSURING TAXES ARE
CALCULATED ON THE ACTUAL GOODS
BEING USED AND SOLD WITH ME
TODAY IS- JERRY. KYLO PRESIDENT
OF UNITED CANNABIS BUSINESS
ASSOCIATIONS CAN ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR VOTE. WELCOME THANK YOU
THANK YOU CHECK. AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK AND THE NUMEROUS COMMITTEE
MEMBERS WHO HAVE CHAMPIONED
LEGISLATION IN SUPPORT OF THE
GROWTH OF REGULATED LEGAL
CANNABIS. TODAY WOULD LIKE TO
THANK SENATOR BRADFORD FOR
RECOGNIZING AND FIGHTING TO
STRIP AWAY THE INEQUITIES IN THE
LEGAL CANNABIS INDUSTRY EVERY
YEAR HE PROPOSES BOLD THE
NECESSARY LEGISLATIVE CHANGES TO
LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. FOR THE
PEOPLE BRAVE ENOUGH TO ENTER THE
LEGAL CANNABIS INDUSTRY. LAST
YEAR CENTER BRADFORD PROPOSED AN
EXCISE TAX REDUCTION BILL THAT
WOULD HAVE MADE THE INDUSTRY FAR
MORE COMPETITIVE AGAINST THE
DEEPLY ENTRENCHED UNREGULATED
MARKET HAS CONTROL OF TWO THIRDS
OF THE CALIFORNIA'S CONSUMERS.
LAST YEAR'S BUDGET TRAILER BILL
AB ONE NINETY FIVE WAS TO PICK
UP THE TORCH OF TAX REDUCTION
RECOGNIZING THE NEEDS OF THE
INDUSTRY AND THE DESIRE OF THE
SENATE OR HAVE MORE COMPETITIVE
TAXING STRUCTURE. TO UP LEFT THE
STRUGGLING INDUSTRY- AB ONE
NINETY FIVE CHANGE THE
COLLECTION THE CALCULATION OF
THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE TAXING
STRUCTURE AND IN DOING SO IT
CHANGED THE DEFINITION. OF THE
STATE'S 15% EXCISE TAX AWAY FROM
A COST OF GOODS TAX TO GROSS
RECEIPTS TAX. MOVING THE STATE
EXCISE TAX CALCULATION. AND
COLLECTION TO THE RETAILER HAD
SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
SINCE THE DESIRE OF AB ONE
NINETY FIVE WAS TO SIMPLIFY AND
REDUCE TAXES. AB ONE NINETY FIVE
INCREASE EXCISE TAXES AND
COMPOUNDED EXCISE TAX
CALCULATION BY INCLUDING LOCAL
TAXES. AND THEY POINTED SALE TAX
AND EXCISE TAX LIABILITY
CALCULATION. MANY ISSUES HAVE
ARISEN FROM THESE CHANGES ONE
EXAMPLE OF THE CITY AND COUNTY
OF LOS ANGELES WHERE THE GROSS
RECEIPTS LANGUAGE. PLACES LOCAL
TAXES THE FINAL TAX AND NOW THE
NEW DEFINITION OF THE STATE
EXCISE TAX ALSO PLACES THE FACT
AS THE FINAL TAX. THAT CONFLICT
HAS LED TO A CIRCULAR TAXING
ARGUMENT WHERE EVERYONE CLAIMS
TO BE THE FINAL TAX AND NO
TAXING AUTHORITY HAS STEPPED UP
TO CLEAR UP THE CONFLICT.
LEAVING THE TAXPAYER IN A
DIFFICULT POSITION TO NOT. TO
NOT BE ABLE TO COMPLY. THE
PENALTIES FOR NOT COMPLYING ARE
HARSH AND PUNITIVE UP TO A 60%
PENALTY FOR UNDER REPORTING
STATE TAXES. AND A NON RENEWAL
OF LOCAL LICENSES FOR UNDER
REPORTING LOCALLY. THIS IS THE
DEFINITION OF A ROCK AND A HARD
PLACE. THIS BILL IS TO SET
EVERYONE STRAIGHT ON HOW TO
CALCULATE EXCISE TAX LOCAL TAX
AND SALES TAXES WITHOUT
COMPOUNDING THE ALREADY
EXCESSIVE TAXES. THAT ARE ADDED
OVER 15% TO THE FINAL PRICE TO
THE CONSUMER. THIS BILL
RECOGNIZES THE INTENDED DESIRES
THE GOVERNOR AND AB ONE NINETY
FIVE. CLEARS UP THE CONFUSION.
OF THE NEW DEFINITION OF STATE
EXCISE TAX AND REMOVES THE
COMPOUNDING NATURE OF THE
CURRENT TAX STRUCTURE. MOVING
THE TAX ON TAX ON TAX ISSUE
LOWERS THE COST TO THE CONSUMER.
AND MAKES LEGAL CANNABIS MORE
COMPETITIVE. TO THE GROWING
ILLICIT MARKET. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK THREE AYE VOTE FOR SB FIVE
TWELFTHS THANK YOU. VERY GOOD IS
THERE ANYBODY. ELSE WOULD LIKE
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. THIS YEAR
. GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS AMY JENKINS ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA CANNABIS INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION AND INDIVIDUAL
COMPANIES CANNOT CROFTON SPARK
IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M SURE
MEMBERS RANDY MARTIN HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE PARENT COMPANY IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL TO
HELP THIS BESIEGED LEGAL
CANNABIS INDUSTRY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APOLOGIZE
ONE MORE I'M ALSO HERE ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA CANNABIS
MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING DROP INSPECTOR HERE
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE BILL ON
BEHALF OF THE LONG BEACH
COLLECTIVE ASSOCIATION AS WELL
AS ANDERSON. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN
SUPPORT IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED. SEEING NONE- WILL MOVE
ON TO TESTIMONY IN OPPOSITION IS
THERE ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION. TO
THIS BILL. SEEING NONE WILL MOVE
ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE IS
OR ANYBODY WHO WOULD WISH TO
TESTIFY EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR IF YOUR SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION TO SENATE BILL
FIVE ONE TWO PLEASE PRESS ONE
ZERO AT TIME. WHEN FELL BY. ZERO
AND WE DO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE
QUEUING UP AT OVER HERE AND-
WE'LL START OUT WITH LINE
SEVENTEEN. GOOD MORNING MY NAME
IS HAVE YOUR MONTH IS VICE CHAIR
OF YOU SEE YEAH LOS ANGELES
INSTRUCT THE PORT OF SB FIVE
TWELVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND
ONE MOMENT WILL BE WITH US IN A
SECOND. IN ORDER TO GO TO LINE
SIXTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE
IRISH RIVERA FROM SOCIAL EQUITY
LA AND HE CANNOT AND DOES
SUPPORT UNDER BRADFORD AND SB
FIVE WELLS THANK YOU. THANKS
VERY MUCH. FINALEMENT YOU ARE
OFTEN. KAREN ARMSTRONG IN BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA DIVISION OF
AMERICANS. FOR SAFE ACCESS.
PRODUCT SUPPORT OF THE TOWARD
THE BILL THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH AND GIVE A FINAL
REMINDER ONE SOUTH OFFICE
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION TO- SB FIVE
POINT TWO ANALYTE FOURTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
WESLEY HÌNH I'M WITH THE CAMPUS
DISTRIBUTORS ASSOCIATION AND ALL
THE OLD MAMMOTH DISTRIBUTION
HEAVY HITTERS AND WE ARE IN
SUPPORT OF SB FIVE TWELVE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE HAVE ONE
MORE QUEUING UP ADAM SURE SHOULD
BE WITH US MOMENTARILY.
AND LINE EIGHTEEN YOUR OPEN. MY
NAME IS EDGAR ESCOBAR BEHALF OF
ANY GROW LLC ME- ALSO A SOCIAL
MANY DISTRIBUTOR OUT OF LOS
ANGELES IN SUPPORT OF SB FIVE
FATHER UNDER BRADFORD IF YOU.
AND WE CLEARED THE QUEUE MADAM
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WILL BRING
THE DISCUSSION BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ARE THERE ANY
COMMENTS OR CONCERNS. MANY
MEMBERS- OF THE MILITARY SAID
SENATOR DRAWS- JUST TO BE SURE
YOU READ THE LOOK. SENATOR
SKINNER. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR-
SENATOR I APPRECIATE YOUR
BRINGING THIS FOR US I KNOW YOUR
COMMUTE COMMITMENTS LONG TERM
COMMITMENT AROUND THIS ISSUE AND
ITS C. PORT BILL SO I HAPPEN TO
MOVE IT THANK YOU. VERY GOOD I
COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER I
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT- YOU KEEP
COMING BACK AND TRYING TO MAKE
IT WORK THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT
. OUT WE NEED TO STOP THE
ILLICIT MARKET IN THE BEST WAY
TO DO IS MAKE THAT. THAT LEGAL
MARKET THE ONE TO GO TO AND MAKE
IT. FAIR FOR EVERYBODY AND- DO
WHAT WE PROMISED WHICH IS THAT
IT WOULD BE A SAFE PRODUCT AND-
THEY WOULDN'T BE OVER TAX SO
WITH THAT I'D ALLOW YOU TO
INCLUDE. I WILL HAVE A MOTION TO
TAKE YOUR COMMENTS AS MY CLOTHES
I THINK IT'S A STRAIGHTFORWARD
MEASURE THAT DUFFY WILL MAKE THE
LEGAL MARKET FOR MORE
COMPETITIVE AND- BELIEVE THE
PROMISE OUT OF VOTERS EXPECTED
WHEN WE PASSED A PROPOSITION
SIXTY FOUR SIX YEARS AGO SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
VERY GOOD WE DO HAVE A MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. FETTERS CABALLERO HI
CABALLERO I SEYARTO LAKE
SUPERIOR ALI. RUSSELL ALL RIGHT
THE REST SO I GLAZER. WIENER AYE
SKINNER AYE WIENER THREE ZERO.
WILL PUT THAT PHONE CALL FOR THE
ABSENT MEMBERS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. SENATOR BY THE A- YOU ARE
HERE.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT
PASSED THE- AVERAGE ACTUALLY IF
I IF WE COULD CAN READ EM. YEAH
ACTUALLY SAID. WELL IT WILL
START WITH THAT FILE ITEM NUMBER
FIVE I'M SORRY I LOST MY TO MY-
PLACE HERE FOR IT FOR A SECOND.
SB FOUR SEVEN SEVENTY ONE. THANK
YOU- MEASURES MY PLEASURE
PRESENT AS BEFORE SEVENTY ONE-
AND I WANT TO THANK- YOUR- STAFF
UP FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS-
LEGISLATION. IT WOULD
INCENTIVIZE OUR BURGEONING
LITHIUM INDUSTRY TO HIRE LOCAL
WORKERS RESIDING IN HISTORICALLY
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AS WELL
AS THOSE PERSONS PARTICIPATING
IN THIS IMPORTANT CRITICAL
INDUSTRY STATEWIDE WHICH IS
CRITICAL TO CALIFORNIA'S ENERGY
FUTURE. LITHIUM IS A CRITICAL A
MINERAL CRITICAL TO CALIFORNIA'S
CLIMATE CHANGE GOALS AND
AMERICA'S ENERGY INDEPENDENCE
DUE TO ITS USE IN A VARIETY OF
ELECTRONICS ESPECIALLY BATTERIES
LITHIUM BATTERIES ARE CRITICAL
COMPONENT LECTERN VEHICLES AND
THEREFORE VITAL TO ELECTRIFYING
TRANSPORTATION- THE GLOBAL
LITHIUM ION BATTERY MARKET IS
EXPECTED TO DOUBLE BY THE YEAR
TWENTY THIRTY AND YET- THE US
CURRENTLY PRODUCES JUST 1% OF
GLOBAL LITHIUM SUPPLY THERE ARE
SOME ESTIMATES THAT. SAY IN
PARTICULAR AROUND THE SALTON SEA
IMPERIAL COUNTY ALONE HOLDS AS
MUCH AS UP TO ONE THIRD OF THE
WORLD'S EMPHASIZE THE WORLD'S
CURRENT LITHIUM DEMAND IS A
PRIME CANDIDATE FOR LITHIUM
SEPARATION AND EXTRACTION.
MOREOVER THE METHODOLOGY TO BE
EMPLOYED IN CALIFORNIA IS ONE OF
THE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY
SUPERIOR SEPARATION AND
EXTRACTED METHODS AVAILABLE IN
THE WORLD. CALIFORNIA THEREFORE
STANDS TO BE A GLOBAL LEADER IN
LITHIUM SEPARATION CREATING
GREEN JOBS GENERATING REVENUE IN
EMERGING MARKET. THE IMPERIAL
VALLEY. SPECIFICALLY HAS THE
HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE
STATE HIGHER THAN ANY COUNTY AND
THREE TIMES THE STATE AVERAGE.
THE BENEFITS OF THIS GROWING
IMAGE THE THIS GROWING INDUSTRY
COULD BRING TO THIS UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITY AND TO THE STATE AS A
WHOLE. ARE TOO MANY TO COUNT. AS
WE RACE TO ME CRITICAL CLIMATE
GOALS WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE
CONTINUE TO POSITION OURSELVES
AS A STATE IN THE MOST HIGHLY
COMPETITIVE POSITION POSSIBLE.
LET ME- JUST MENTIONED MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS WE FIND
OURSELVES INTERNATIONAL AND
GLOBAL- A COMPETITIVE SITUATION
WE HAVE OTHER STATES IN THE
NATION THAT DO NOT HAVE
CALIFORNIA'S. EMPLOYMENT
COMMUNITY BENEFIT AN
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW STANDARDS
THEY ARE STANDING READY TO-
CONNECT THEMSELVES TO. INSTANT
LARGE MARKETS- AND TO BUILD
WHENEVER AND WHEREVER NEEDED- IF
WE ARE TO CAPITALIZE ON THIS WE
NEED TO BE ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE
INVESTMENT IN A WAY THAT'S
MEANINGFUL. SB FOUR SEVENTY ONE
WILL SUPPORT SUPPORT THE GROWTH
OF THIS ENERGY CLEAN CLEAN
ENERGY ECONOMY AND SEE TO IT
THAT WE COMPETE SUCCESSFULLY. IN
THIS CRITICAL EMERGING INDUSTRY.
NOT ONE OF OUR MOST
DISADVANTAGES REASONS AS WELL
BENEFITS AS WELL THIS SIMPLY
BUILT ON THE NEW EMPLOYMENT
CREDIT- AT A 50% RATE FOR THOSE
THAT ARE ENGAGED. IN THIS
CRITICAL EMERGING INDUSTRY- FOR
CALIFORNIA'S ECONOMIC FUTURE- I
WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ERIC
BRONSON FROM IMPERIAL COUNTY.
WHO IS JOINING ME AS WELL AS
MIKE MONAHAN FROM THE BUILDING
TRADES AND FOLLOWING THEIR
TESTIMONY I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR GOOD
MORNING- ERIC JOHNSON ON BEHALF
OF THE COUNTY OF IMPERIAL WHILE
THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE BEEN A
FORMAL POSITION AS OF AS OF
THIS. POINT THEY ARE GOING TO
TAKE A POSITION ON A SUPPORT
POSITION AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE
OPPORTUNITY THEY ASKED ME TO
COME HERE TODAY AND MAKE SURE
THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT. YOU KNOW
THE COUNTY OF IMPERIAL- AS THE
SENATOR POINTED OUT IS A IS A
VERY DEPRESSED AREA AND THIS TAX
CREDIT WOULD VERY MUCH GO A LONG
WAY TO BENEFITING THE COUNTY.
AND ITS RESIDENTS THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VENTURE
MEMBERS MIKE MADIGAN AND WE HAVE
THE STATE BUILDING TRADES- PROUD
TO SUPPORT THIS BILL BY SENATOR
PADILLA. HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
GO TO SOLVENCY ABOUT A YEAR AND
A HALF AGO WHEN I SAW THE-
UNEMPLOYMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL
ISSUES THAT THAT. REGION HAS TO
SUFFER THROUGH. THIS WILL GO A
LONG WAYS TO IMPROVING THAT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD
LIKE TO LIKE TO SEE- KISSED BY
IN SUPPORT OF THIS BEFORE
SEVENTY ONE. SEEING IN NOBODY
CAN I MOVE HOW ABOUT IF WE MOVE
ON TO OPPOSITION. TO S. B. FOUR
TWENTY FOUR SEVENTY ONE.
OPPOSITION HERE IN ROOM TWENTY
ONE HUNDRED. SEEING NO ONE WILL
MOVE ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE IS OR ANYBODY THAT WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION ON THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE. THANK YOU MEDICARE IF YOUR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO A
SENATE BILL FOUR SEVEN ONE
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO AT THIS TIME WHEN COPAYS
ZERO. WE DO A ONE WITH AN
OPERATOR ONE MOMENT MADAM CHAIR
ANYBODY ELSE PLEASE TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY IN PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY YOUR. MY THIRTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI THE HEART OF
THE CALIFORNIA TEACHERS
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION.
THANKS VERY MUCH AND MEDICARE NO
ONE ELSE YOU DON'T. VERY GOOD
WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS QUESTIONS
CONCERNS. CENTER DRIES UP. I
THANK THE AUTHOR AND- IF
SUPPORTERS FOR A BILL THAT
INCLUDES- WAGES- AND DECENT
WAGES I WOULD- JUST TO LOOK AT
FURTHER AT LANGUAGE ABOUT HIGH
ROAD. OF PARTNERSHIPS ALL HIGH
WILL PARTNERSHIPS ON THE
TRAINING FRONT- WE HAVE SOME
REALLY EXTRAORDINARY
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS AND IT
SEEMS LIKE THAT AND THEN OF
COURSE REACHING OUT TO
COMMUNITIES THAT. YOUR AREA IS
PROBABLY THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY-
UNIT TO RECRUIT FROM BUT THAT
DOESN'T ALWAYS GET DONE AND
SOMETIMES YOU KNOW WORKING
PEOPLE ARE BROUGHT IN FROM OTHER
AREAS. SO I WOULD REALLY URGE
THE HIGH ROAD TRAINING
PARTNERSHIP- PROGRAMS WORKING
WITH THEM. LABOR AND WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT- BOARD- THEY HAVE
SOME WE HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE
LAST FEW YEARS SOME REALLY GREAT
LANGUAGE THAT HELPS BOTH
EMPLOYERS AND- AND THE WORKERS.
THANK YOU. SENATOR GLAZERS. I
THANK YOU CHAIR. SENATOR AYE I'M
GONNA SUPPORT YOUR BILL TODAY- I
KNOW IT COMES FROM A GREAT
PASSION YOU HAVE FOR YOUR AREA
AND CERTAINLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE- POTENTIAL FOR AN EMERGING
INDUSTRY CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE
ONE THAT- IS IMPORTANT- FOR OUR
VITAMINS. AND AS WELL AS FOR
OUR- FOLKS THAT THAT COULD COULD
BE EMPLOYED IN THAT SECTOR SO
BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE ON
THIS CREDIT TAX CREDIT ON OTHERS
THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THIS
COMMITTEE. IT IS ALWAYS A LITTLE
BIT OF A CHALLENGE TO UNDERSTAND
THAT HOW WE WEIGH THESE CHOICES
AMONG DIFFERENT. SECTORS THAT
ALSO BRING VALUE WHETHER IT'S
HOLLYWOOD WHETHER IT'S
AEROSPACE- AND SO I AM- THIS IS
YOU KNOW AT CHALLENGED TO-
UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THERE ARE
BUDGETARY IMPACTS ON THESE TYPES
OF THINGS AND HOW WE MAKE THESE
CHOICES BUT FOR DATA FOR TODAY
I'M HAPPY TO MOVE YOUR BILL I
HAD. THANK YOU IMAGE CENTER
DOLLY PODS LIKE TO. ECHO SOME OF
THE SAME COMMENTS I THINK IF
WE'RE GOING TO REALLY BE HONEST
WITH. YOU KNOW OUR- GOALS AND
ACHIEVING THE ENVIRONMENT WE
SHOULD BE PRODUCING. THE
MATERIALS WE NEED FOR. GREEN
GREEN JOBS AND GREEN ENERGY- IN
CALIFORNIA AND SO FOR THOSE
REASONS I THINK WE NEED TO JUMP
START IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'VE
SEEN EVEN I THINK WAS SENATOR
BRADFORD THAT BROUGHT. TO THE-
TO THE FLOOR- A RESOLUTION TO.
STOP THE YOU KNOW BASICALLY
LABOR CHILD LABOR IN OTHER
COUNTRIES WHERE THEY'RE
PRODUCING THE PRODUCTS THAT WE
NEED TO SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT SO
I'D BE GLAD TO SUPPORT YOUR TO
BILL BILL TODAY I THINK THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT CALIFORNIA- NEEDS
TO. MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION TO
ACTUALLY PRODUCE THE PRODUCTS
THAT WE NEED HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
BILL FORWARD. I SEE NO OTHER
COMMENTS I SENATOR ONE AT ECHO
WHAT HAS BEEN SAID. I'M HERE
TODAY- WE NEED TO BE IN CONTROL
OF OUR OWN DESTINY AND IF WE'RE
GOING TO MAKE THAT SACRIFICES
AND THE COMMITMENT TO- GO GREEN.
WE OUGHT TO BE PRODUCING. WILL
BE MAKING WHAT WE NEED IN ORDER
FOR THAT TO HAPPEN- IF IT'S
WITHIN OUR OUR POWER TO DO THAT
AND THIS THIS LITHIUM
OPPORTUNITY JUST IS TOO GOOD TO
PASS UP- OTHER MINING
OPERATIONS. IS A DESTRUCTION OF
THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT- IN
OTHER COUNTRIES THERE ARE
SIGNIFICANT ABUSES AS WAS
MENTIONED CHILD USING CHILD.
ELDRIN AS LABOR- WITH HORRIBLE
LIVING CONDITIONS IS NOT NOT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE
PROUD OF AND SO. I SEE THIS IS
IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR.
YOUR REGION BUT I DO HAVE TO
AGREE. ALSO THAT WE HAVE TO
EVALUATE WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON
ON OUR BUDGET. AND MAKE SOME
DIFFICULT CHOICES BETWEEN SOME
OF THESE- IF WE CAN DO IT ALL
GREAT IF WE CAN'T THEN WE HAVE
TO. FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES WE
WANT TO SUPPORT AS AN EMERGING
ISSUE OUR ORDER OR WHEN THAT
WILL PRODUCE THE JOBS AS WELL AS
THE GOOD PRODUCTS SO. WITH THAT
SAID I'LL ALLOW YOU TO CONCLUDE-
DO WE HAVE A MOTION. THIS OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH UP MANAGER
DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUES I TAKE
ALL OF THAT- INPUTTING. THAT
WERE MENTIONED VERTICALLY ON THE
WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT SIDE I
THINK THIS IS A UNIQUE
OPPORTUNITY IN A TOOL- MADAM
CHAIR FOR THE STATE TO BE IN A
POSITION TO BE SURE THAT. LOCAL
WORK FORCE ARE HARNESSED
DEVELOPED AND EMPLOYED AND NOT
EXPLOITED- I THINK THAT MY
ARGUMENT WITH RESPECT TO MAKING
DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE WE-
PROVIDE- AN INCENTIVE- AND PAY A
REVENUE COST- HAS TO LOOK AND I
WOULD ARGUE THAT THIS POTENTIAL.
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF HOW IT
CAN BE EXTRACTED IN THE EXISTING
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY ON
THE GROUND- THAT EXISTS IS BEING
BOUGHT UP LIKE YOU KNOW FIRST
PRIZE IN A TURKEY SHOOT BY ABOUT
EVERY. CONGLOMERATE THERE IS
AROUND THE WORLD. A TO THE TUNE
OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THAT
THIS IS A CRITICAL EMERGING
INDUSTRY NOT JUST TO MY DISTRICT
BUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND IS
CRITICAL TO OUR ABILITY TO
ACTUALLY MAKE PROGRESS TOWARDS
MEETING OUR- GREENHOUSE GAS
REDUCTION AND CONVERSION GOALS.
AND WE ARE AT AN ADVANTAGE. ON
THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE AND THE
RESOURCE SIDE WE ARE AT A
COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE. AS A
STATE WITH RESPECT TO THE
REGULATORY SIDE AND ANYTHING WE
CAN DO TO INCENTIVIZE INVESTMENT
AND GET A BENEFIT FOR OUR STATE
BACK IS SOMETHING I WOULD
STRONGLY ARGUE IS WORTHY. OF THE
STATE TO CONSIDER AND SO I THINK
FOR THE THAT INPUT NOT
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR NAY VOTE.
VERY GOOD WE DO HAVE A MOTION
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO
APPROPRIATIONS THESE CALDERON.
SENATORS CABALLERO HI CABALLERO
ICE HERE TO BLAKE'S BEER DALI.
DALI I DO RUSSELL RUSSELL I
GLAZER. GLAZER AYE SKINNER.
RIGHT SKINNER I WIENER. FRIDAY
ZERO. THE DALLAS WILL PUT IT ON
CALL FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
MOVING ON FILE ITEM NUMBER SIX
SB SEVEN THIRTEEN THAT THAT IS
YOUR BILL AS WELL CENTER. THANK
YOU MA'AM SURE IT'S MY HONOR TO
PRESENT THE SENATE BILL SEVEN
ONE THREE. WHICH SIMPLY
CLARIFIES FOR THE PURPOSES OF
OUR- STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW
WHAT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS MEANS
TO INCLUDE THOSE THAT ARE
ADOPTED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR
ENACTED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
ELECTORATE. EXERCISING ITS
INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM POWER
IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER THAT IS
DERIVED FROM THE CONSTITUTION
STATUTE. OR CHARTER AND
ORDINANCES OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
DON'T NEED ME TO TELL YOU WHERE
THE- HOUSING CRISIS IN EVERY
STEP WE TAKE IS VITAL. WORK TO
BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN HIGH
HOUSING SUPPLY AND DEMAND- THIS
BILL WOULD CLARIFY CLEARLY
ARTICULATE STATE LAW. AS
DEVELOPERS AND CITIES
COLLABORATE TO SEEK TO BUILD NEW
UNITS OF HOUSING THAT ARE
COMPLIANT. SB SEVEN THIRTEEN
CODIFIES THE RECENT TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE MEMORANDUM FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THAT
EXPLICITLY RESTATES THE EXISTING
LAW THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT CANNOT
IMPOSE STANDARDS THAT STOP STATE
DENSITY BONUS PROJECTS. FROM
MOVING FORWARD FORWARD GREATER
CLARITY ALLOWS DEVELOPERS TO
PROCEED WITH CONFIDENCE. TO
DEVELOP MORE HOUSING MORE
QUICKLY. OR OF A HOUSING
DEVELOPERS CANNOT AFFORD TO
WASTE EXTREMELY LIMITED AN
IMPORTANT FUNDING ON UNNECESSARY
DELAYS. SB SEVEN ONE THREE WOULD
SIMPLY PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED
CLARITY STREAMLINING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROJECTS BY PREVENTING
TRIVIAL DELAYS. BY RESTATING
CLARIFYING SEVEN ONE THREE WILL
REDUCE BUILDING COSTS.
SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE HOUSING
HOUSING PRODUCTION. WITH ME
TODAY I HAVE DANTE GOLDEN. ROOM
FROM SAN DIEGO HOUSING
FEDERATION. VERY GOOD WELCOME.
GOOD MORNING TEN MEMBERS MY NAME
IS DANTE GOLDEN SENIOR DIRECTOR
OF POLICY AT THE SENATE HOUSING
FEDERATION WE REPRESENT THOSE
SUPPORT BUILDING FINANCE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE- SAN
DIEGO AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
REGION. WE ARE A PROUD SPONSOR
OF SEVEN THIRTEEN. THIS BILL IS
A COMMONSENSE STATUTORY UPDATE
THE IT IS THE DENSITY BONUS LAW
THAT CLARIFIES IT LOCAL
GOVERNMENT MAY NOT APPLY ANY
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT
PRECLUDES A PROJECTS SEEKING A
DENSITY BONUS EVEN THE STANDARD
JUST ADOPTED. BY THE LOCAL
ELECTRIC THROUGH A LOCAL
INITIATIVE OR REFERENDUM POWER.
THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS
CONSIDERED THE LAWS GOVERNING
STATE PRE EMPTION RIGHTS GREATER
CERTAINTY TO DEVELOPERS
CONSIDERED PROJECTS THAT UTILIZE
THE STATE'S AND THE PROGRAM AND
IS WHY THE COALITION SUPPORTING
THIS BILL IS. MADE OF MARGARET
AFFORDABLE DEVELOPERS ALONG
SEPARATE HOUSING ADVOCATES- FOR
THE MORE THE PRECARIOUS CAPITAL
STACKS AFFORDABLE HOUSING
DEVELOPERS HAVE TO CONSTRUCT TO
FINANCE A PROJECT COUPLED WITH
DELAYS. AND BEAUTY- IN CONFUSION
THAT EXISTS- THE WHEN THERE'S A
CONFLICT BETWEEN THE VOTER
APPROVED INITIATIVE AND STATE
LAW- FOR THE CAUSES AND DRIES
UP. FOR THE CAUSES DELAYS AND
DRIVES UP COSTS FOR MEMBERS AND
COULD LEAD TO A LOSS OF FUNDING
FROM ANY ONE OF OUR FUNDING
SOURCES- WITHOUT SEVEN THIRTEEN
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS WILL
LIKELY NOT MOVE FORWARD DUE TO
THE LACK. OF CLARITY IN CURRENT
LAW THIS BILL ADDRESSES THIS
CHALLENGE MAKE IT EASIER FOR
COMMITTEES TO DELIVER THE
HOUSING WE NEED TO MAKE A DENT
IN THE HOUSING CRISIS. AND IS
ADVISABLE TO MUCH YOU KNOW FOR
PASSING OUT WITHOUT EVER.
SURPASS RIVAL. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. IN IN SUPPORT. MADAM CHAIR
SENATORS DHINGRA FIELD WITH
CAPITAL ADVOCACY. ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA LIFE SCIENCES. IN
SUPPORT OF SB SEVEN ONE THREE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING MARCH I IS FOR THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSING PARTNERSHIP
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LOOK YOUR
NUMBERS PATRICK RETAILER WITH I.
Q. H. Q. IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
FOR ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
. SEEING NONE IS THERE ANYBODY
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. THING THEN WE'LL
MOVE ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY
ON THE TELECONFERENCE LANE WOULD
LIKE TO. TESTIFY EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION. TO SB
SEVEN THIRTEEN. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR SHE INDICATED OCCURRED
SUPPORT OPPOSITION. TO SB SEVEN
ONE THREE PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO
. AND WE HAVE NOBODY QUEUEING UP
AT THIS TIME. VERY GOOD WILL
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
IS THERE ARE ARE THERE ANY
COMMENTS OR- MOTIONS ON THIS
BILL. THERE IS A MOTION. ANY
COMMENTS. SEAMAN AGAIN IT'S A
VERY IMPORTANT BILL AND I WILL
BE SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY
CENTER WILL ALLOW YOU TO
CONCLUDE THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
OF SPEC WE ASK FOR. WE GET. THE
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE FLOOR
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL SENATORS
CABALLERO HI CABALLERO ICE HERE
TO PLAY EXPERIENCE DOLLY. THE
RUSSELL. RUSSELL I GLAZER. LASER
ICE. BY SKINNER AYE WIENER
WIENER I AM FIVE ZERO THE BILL
IS OUT WILL PUT IT ON CALL FOR
THE ABSENT MEMBERS- AND FINALLY-
YOUR LAST BILL TODAY HERE IN
THIS COMMITTEE IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN WHICH IS S. B.
SEVEN FIFTY ONE. THANK YOU
VENTURE MEMBERS IT'S MY PLEASURE
TO PRESENT SENATE BILL SEVEN
FIFTY ONE AND I WANT TO START BY
THANKING ME FOR WORKING WITH MY
OFFICE AND ACCEPTING A COMMITTEE
MEMBERS LOOKS VERY FAMILIAR TO
ME- SEVEN FIFTY ONE IS
NECESSARY. TO REMOVE AND
INAPPROPRIATE AND VERY CLEVER I
MIGHT ADD SOME. ON THE MIDDLE OF
CORPORATE AND LABOR RELATIONS
WHEN IT COMES TO OFTEN EXCLUSIVE
FRANCHISES BETWEEN WASTE HAULER
PROVIDERS. AND PUBLIC ENTITIES
CITIES COUNTIES SPECIAL
DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT
CONTRACT WITH THESE PROVIDERS TO
PROVIDE A CLICK CRITICAL SERVICE
TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND
WELFARE. OF THE REFUSE
COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL. SB
SEVENTY ONE SEEKS TO ELIMINATE
WHAT HAS POPPED UP IN SAN DIEGO
COUNTY AND I SUSPECT MAY BE
HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE STATE
BUT NOT CONSISTENTLY. UP WITH
LANGUAGE BEING INSERTED INTO
FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS LICENSING
AND PERMITS THAT CHARACTERIZES
WHAT IS A REASONABLY
FORESEEABLE. LABOR DISPUTE
PENDING LABOR ACTION OR STRIKE
AS AN UNCONTROLLABLE
UNFORESEEABLE BURKE CIRCUMSTANCE
OR FORCE MAJEURE ACT OF GOD
PROVISION. THE PRAGMATIC
EFFECTIVE THIS IS DETRIMENTAL TO
THE PUBLIC WELL BEING THE
PRAGMATIC EFFECT IS THAT THE
TYPICAL AND NORMAL REMEDIES FOR
NON PERFORMANCE OR BREACH.
BETWEEN THE EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT
AND THE PUBLIC ENTITY
REPRESENTING THE PUBLIC. ARE
TYPICALLY AVAILABLE WHETHER
THAT'S- GENERAL REMEDIES UNDER
CONTRACT LAW WHETHER THAT'S
AGREED UPON SCHEDULE OF
LIQUIDATED DAMAGES BETWEEN THE
PARTIES. HERE THIS LANGUAGE
WHILE CHARACTERIZING A LABOR
DISPUTE AS FORCED MATURE AS AN
UNCONTROLLABLE AND FORESEEABLE
CIRCUMSTANCE WHICH IT IS NOT.
BASICALLY PUTS A CHILLING EFFECT
ON THE ABILITY OF THE PUBLIC
ENTITY WHICH IS GRANTED OFTEN A
EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE TO THE
HOLLERS. FROM TAKING ENFORCEMENT
ACTION DURING THE COURSE OF THE
LABOR DISPUTE IT ALSO BRINGS THE
PUBLIC ENTITY AND THE CITIZENS
IN TURN INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE
LABOR DISPUTE. AND INDIRECTLY
AND VERY CLEVERLY GIVES EXTRA
PRESSURE AN ADVANTAGE TO THE
PRIVATE HAULER TO PUT PRESSURE
ON THE WORK FORCE TO RESOLVE THE
LABOR DISPUTE. MEANWHILE THE
TRASH PILES UP. CREATING
INCREDIBLY UNNECESSARY PUBLIC
HEALTH A DETRIMENT- THIS
LANGUAGE AND HAS NO BUSINESS IN
EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISES FOR A
PUBLIC SERVICE SUCH AS THIS. IT
IS UNNECESSARY- IT IT DOES PUT
THE THUMB ON THE SCALE IN FAVOR
OF CORPORATE INTERESTS WHEN
THERE IS A LABOR DISPUTE. THIS
SIMPLY REMOVES THAT THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE
ACCEPTING ALSO INCLUDE THE
ABILITY TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE
NOTICE OF RIGHTS TO RATE PAYERS.
A TO KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE AN
IMPENDING- LABOR ACTION- AND TO
HAVE A PROCESS. BY WHICH
INDIVIDUALS CAN GET CREDITS OR
REFUNDS FOR SERVICES THEY PAID
FOR. THAT WERE NOT DELIVERED A
VERY CLEVER LANGUAGE I'M SURE A
VERY SMART ATTORNEY SOMEWHERE
GOT THIS INTO SOME FRANCHISE
AGREEMENTS AS A MATTER OF
POLICY- THE STATE SHOULD NOT
ALLOW THIS. LANGUAGE TO BE
INSERTED INTO PUBLIC OFTEN
EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS
FOR A PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE- AND
SO- FOLLOWING THAT I WOULD LIKE
TO INTRODUCE MATT BRODE
REPRESENTING THE TEAMSTERS.
FOLLOWING HIS TESTIMONY WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR NAY VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WELCOME ATO
. EXCUSE ME MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
BROUGHT HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA TEAMSTERS. IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB SEVEN FIFTY ONE- I
THINK THERAPY ADD SOME DEPTH
PRETTY WELL OUR CONCERNS IN IN
THE NEED FOR THIS BILL. IT WAS
ACTUALLY INSPIRED BY DECEMBER
TWENTY TWENTY ONE STRIKE AT
REPUBLIC SERVICES IN CHULA
VISTA. IN THE SENATOR'S DISTRICT
FROM THE TEAMSTER PERSPECTIVE WE
HAD SORT OF A TALE OF TWO CITIES
EXPERIENCE ENSURE THEY STAY
THERE TO FORCE MEASURE PROVISION
THAT INCLUDED. LABOR DISPUTES IN
LOS ANGELES SAME GROUP OF
WORKERS DOING THE SAME JOB THEY
DID IT. ONE LABOR DISPUTE WAS
RESOLVED VERY QUICKLY THE OTHER
ONE WAS A PRO LONG STRIKE- AND I
THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT ACTS
OF GOD SHOULD APPLY TO FLOODS
EARTHQUAKES. THINGS THAT ARE
REALLY OUTSIDE OF AN EMPLOYER'S
CONTROL RATHER THAN A LABOR
DISPUTE WHICH I WOULD SAY- IS
VERY MUCH WITHIN EMPLOYERS-
CONTROL. ALL THESE PROVISIONS DO
YOUR SHIELD EMPLOYERS FROM
LIABILITY AND PROBABLY
INADVERTENTLY PROLONGED LABOR
DISPUTES. AND I BELIEVE THE NEW
TAX IN THE BILL WITH RECENT
AMENDMENTS. HELPS PROTECT
CONSUMERS WORKERS AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AND WITH THAT I WOULD
URGE YOUR AYE VOTE ON THE BILL
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
EITHER WAY. IN SUPPORT MEDICARE
. MEMBERS ON THE GROUND OVER THE
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES LIKE
THAT THE AUTHOR FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP HERE. WE THINK THIS
BILL STRIKES THE APPROPRIATE
BALANCE OF MAKING SURE THE
CITY'S IN THE EVENT OF A LABOR
STOPPAGE. CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE
TRASH GETS PICKED UP AND WE
PREVENT OF SOME MAJOR PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS- ON THAT IS THAT
THAT HAPPENED SO THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT ANYONE ELSE.
ANYONE ELSE THING- NO ONE ELSE
IN ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED WILL
MOVE ON TO- TESTIMONY IN
OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING MADAM
CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE JOHN
MOFFETT ON BEHALF OF WASTE
MANAGEMENT WE HAVE AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION ON THE
BILL. MET WITH THE CENTER'S
OFFICE SEVERAL TIMES LOOK
FORWARD TO THOSE ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS- YOU KNOW I THINK
FROM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WE
UNDERSTAND THAT THE POSITION
THAT THE SENATORS COMING FROM.
AND I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE
WE DON'T DISAGREE THAT WHEN-
LABOR IMPASSE ARISES- YOU KNOW
THERE NEEDS TO BE A PLAN IN
PLACE TO GO AND MAKE SURE THAT
TRASH THAT PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY IS PROTECTED. TRASH
RECYCLABLES ALL THESE THINGS ARE
PICKED UP I THINK OUR ISSUE WITH
THE BILL IS THAT AS CURRENTLY
DRAFTED THE BILL REQUIRES
SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE THAT MEANS
WHATEVER THE SCHEDULE WAS THE
DAY BEFORE THE STRIKE IT HAS TO
BE THE SAME THE DAY AFTER THE
STRIKE AND THAT'S JUST NOT
POSSIBLE. IF WE HAVE A CREW OF A
HUNDRED FOLKS WHO WALK OUT WE
DON'T HAVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE
SITTING THERE. READY TO STEP IN
AND CONTINUE PROVIDING SERVICES
ON DAY ONE RIGHT AFTER THE
STRIKE. THAT THAT'S EXTREMELY
EXPENSIVE AND THERE ARE TIMES
YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL HERE
IS TO NOT GET TO THAT POINT
INTERNET GO SHE ATION AND SO-
OUR VIEW IS THAT. YOU KNOW WE
WOULD LIKE THE BILL TO MOVE IN
THE DIRECTION OF NOT REQUIRING
SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE. STILL NOT
EXCUSING PERFORMANCE BUT
REQUIRING A MODIFIED APPROACH OF
PERFORMANCE RIGHT LOOK WE'RE
GONNA GO THROUGH THINGS ARE
STILL GOING TO GET PICKED UP BUT
IT'S GOING TO BE ON A DIFFERENT
SCHEDULE THAN IT WAS THE DAY
BEFORE. REQUIRING SPECIFIC
PERFORMANCE IS VERY EXPENSIVE IN
BECOMES CHALLENGING WHEN YOU'RE
IN A FRANCHISE NEGOTIATION. AND
WE THINK THAT PUTS UNIONIZED
HOLDERS LIKE WASTE MANAGEMENT
POTENTIALLY AT A DISADVANTAGE
WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE ON THE OPEN
MARKET. RESPONDING TO A
FRANCHISE R. F. P. NOT ALL.
WASTE HAULERS HAVE UNION
LOCATIONS IN THE STATE SOME OF
US DO AND SO THOSE WHO DON'T
HAVE UNION LOCATIONS DON'T HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT THIS BILL. BUT
BUT WE DO AND SO AGAIN I THINK
FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WHAT WE'D
LIKE TO SEE IS AND AS WE
SUGGESTED ARE NOT IN OUR LETTER-
TO THE COMMITTEE- YOU KNOW A
MODIFIED PERFORMANCE APPROACH
THAT WILL BE ALLOWED. CAN BE
WORKED OUT WITH THE LOCAL G.
JURISDICTION AS PART OF THE
FRANCHISE NEGOTIATIONS. THANK
YOU VERY GOOD THANK YOU SO MUCH
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION IN THE
ROOM. PLEASE COME FORWARD. CHAIR
MEMBERS ARE JUST CERVANTES HERE
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
WASTE HAULERS COUNCIL WE ALIGN
OUR COMMENTS- WITH MISTER
MOFFETT THANK YOU. DAVID KRIEGER
ON BEHALF OF WASTE CONNECTIONS
SIMILARLY ALIGNED THANK THE
AUTHOR IN THIS OFFICE FOR HIS
WILLINGNESS TO BE ON. OKAY WE
DID THE- DID OPPOSITION
OPPOSITION. THE WORDS. THE FIRM
BEFORE. OKAY THANK YOU OKAY-
MODERATOR WE'RE READY NOW TO
HEAR FROM. OF THE PUBLIC ON THE
PHONE. MODERATE WE'RE NOW READY
TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON THE
PHONES IF YOU WOULD- Q. THE
MONTH. THANK YOU BETTER CHERISH
YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO
SENATE BILL SEVEN FIVE ONE
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO AT THIS TIME ONE CHILD BY
ZERO. AND NOBODY'S DOING UP THIS
TIME. OKAY THANK YOU MODERATOR
WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM OUR
COLLEAGUES ON THE- COMMITTEE ANY
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS YES UNDER
GLAZER. THANK YOU- SENATOR I
KNOW THAT- THIS THIS BILL COMES
OUT OF A REAL PROBLEM IN YOUR
NECK OF THE WOODS AND HAVE
UNDERSTANDABLY SO WHEN TRASH IS
BEING PICKED UP IT'S A SERIOUS
ISSUE- AND EVERYBODY TRUTHFULLY
EVERYBODY IS TO BLAME. AFTER THE
BREAK DOWN NOT TRYING TO POINT
FINGERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
BUT THAT THE CHALLENGE THAT I
HAVE WITH THIS BILL IS THAT-
THIS IS IN A- A PROBLEM THAT HAS
OCCURRED AMONG ON SOPHISTICATED
PARTIES. THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT
HAS OCCURRED AMONG VERY
SOPHISTICATED PARTIES. I SERVE
FOR FIVE YEARS ON MY REGIONAL
TRASH BOARD SO- AND WAS INVOLVED
IN THE PROCESS OF. REVIEWING THE
FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WHICH YOU
KNOW THAT SERIOUS- TIME
REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE THESE THAT
GO OUT FOR BID AND TO MAKE THESE
AGREEMENTS- YOU HAVE- LAWYERS ON
ALL SIDES IN THESE AGREEMENTS-
YET YOU ALSO HAVE- THE-
UNIONIZED. AT LEAST ON THE SIDE
OF THE WITH HOLLER SIDE THAT
ALSO VERY SOPHISTICATED. IN THE
AGRAD THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
AGREEMENTS THAT ARE NEGOTIATED-
AND IN THIS CONTEXT YOU KNOW THE
CHALLENGES THAT THESE FRANCHISE
AGREEMENTS HURT. TEN YEARS LONG
AB EVEN TWENTY YEARS LONG IN
SOME CASES AND SOMETIMES.
JURISDICTIONS TO PUT IN
EVERGREENS WERE THERE NEVER
REVIEWED AND THEY JUST GO ON AND
ON AND ON. AND YET IN THE MIDDLE
OF ALL THAT YOU KNOW YOU DO
HAVE- LABOR CONTRACTS THAT
EXPIRE THEY'RE NOT TYPICALLY TEN
YEAR CONTRACTS- AND SO THAT CAN
CHANGE THINGS. SOMETIMES WITHIN
THE CONTROL OF THE- OF THE
HOLLER SOMETIMES WITHOUT. BUT
THE CHALLENGE THAT I HAVE ON
THIS BILL IS THAT- YOU'RE
INJECTING THE STATE. INTO THESE
FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS AMONG
SOPHISTICATED PARTIES SAYING
THAT THAT THAT THIS FORCED YOUR
PROVISION SHOULDN'T APPLY WILL
THEY ALL CAN MAKE THAT JUDGMENT
TODAY- THE- THE HOLLERS. MAKE
THAT CAN MAKE THAT JUDGMENT
ABOUT WHETHER IT'S IN OR NOT.
THE THE FOLKS MAKING THE
FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS WHETHER
IT'S A CITY. OR A COLLECTIVE OF
CITIES OR COUNTIES WHATEVER THAT
IS THEY CAN LOOK AT THE
PROVISIONS ARE LAWYERS LOOK AT
ALL THE PROVISIONS AND THEY CAN
MAKE WHATEVER JUDGMENT. THEY
WANT TO MAKE ABOUT WHETHER IT'S
IN OR ITS OUT. BUT UNDER THIS
BILL. YOUR RESOLVING THAT ISSUE
. I'LL BE TAKING IT OUT OF THIS
. AGREEMENT NEGOTIATION AMONG
AGAIN VERY SOPHISTICATED FOLKS.
IF THE IF THE LOCAL JURISDICTION
. WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF
THE IN THE CASE OF A STRIKE AND
THAT'S NOT AN UNUSUAL EVENT LIKE
THAT NEVER COULD EVER BE
IMAGINED. THEY CAN PUT IT IN
AGREEMENT A PLAN TO DEAL WITH
THAT. THAT- THAT PROBLEM- NOW IF
WE THINK THAT AND SOME PEOPLE
SUGGEST THAT TRASH HAULING IS AN
ESSENTIAL SERVICE. AND WE HAVE
IN OUR STATE TO FIND ESSENTIAL
SERVICES LIKE POLICE AND FIRE
WHERE THEY CAN'T THEY CAN'T
STRIKE WELL THAT'S A DIFFERENT
BILL THAT WOULD BE BEFORE US.
THAT WOULD SAY. RASH HAULING SO
IMPORTANT THAT YOU GOT TO WORK
IT OUT AT THE BARGAINING TABLE
JUST LIKE WE DO WITH FIRE AND
POLICE YOU CAN'T HAVE A STRIKE
BUT THAT'S NOT THE BILL THAT'S
IN FRONT OF US. AND SO THAT'S
THE CHALLENGE FOR ME ON THIS
BILL I KNOW COMES OUT OF THE
BEST OF INTENTIONS. AND I WANTED
TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. OTHER
OTHER COMMENTS COMMITTEE
COMMENTS QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
SENATOR DRIVES OF YET- JUST A
QUESTION TO CLARIFY WITH THE
AUTHOR. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING
THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS
JUST TO MAKE SURE. THAT THE
SERVICES CONTINUE. AS WAS. AS IS
EXPECTED EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND
SO THIS IS NOT TO PUT ANYBODY. A
DISADVANTAGE IS JUST SIMPLY
SAYING. IF THAT IS. THAT IS
WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IT DOESN'T
REALLY MATTER WHAT'S WHAT THE
ISSUE IS IF YOU GOT TO KEEP
PROVIDING THE SERVICE IT IS THAT
DID I GET THAT RIGHT IN MY
POSITION- MEDICARE AND
DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUE IS A
COUPLE OF THINGS. THE OBLIGATION
IS ON THE FRANCHISEE OFTEN WITH
WHO CONTRACTS FOR OFTEN
EXCLUSIVE PUBLICLY FUNDED
CONTRACT TO PROVIDE AN IMPORTANT
PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE TO PUBLIC
ENTITIES THIS IS NOT. A CONTRACT
BETWEEN TWO PRIVATE ENTITIES. WE
HAVE A PUBLIC INTEREST HERE
SPECIFICALLY HEALTH AND WELFARE
. WHAT'S WHAT'S BE SEEM TO BE
FORGOTTEN HERE IS THAT THE
FRANCHISEES ALREADY HAVE AN
OBLIGATION FOR SPECIFIC
PERFORMANCE. AND THEY'RE ALREADY
REMEDIES AND INCENTIVES WITHIN
THE EXISTING CONTRACTUAL
CONSTRUCT THAT EXIST IN THE
ABSENCE OF THIS LANGUAGE THE
PROBLEM WITH THIS LANGUAGE IS IT
TIES THE HANDS OF THE PUBLIC
ENTITY TO TAKE ANY ENFORCEMENT
ACTION. DURING THE COURSE OF THE
LABOR ACTION IT BRINGS CONTRARY
TO ANSWER TO RESPECTFULLY TO MY
COLLEAGUES TO BRING IN THE STATE
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DISPUTE.
THIS LANGUAGE VERY CLEVERLY WAS
INSERTED IN SOME OF THESE
CONTRACTS FOR A REASON AND THAT
WAS TO BRING THE PUBLIC ENTITY
INTO THE LABOR DISPUTE. TO TIE
THE PUBLIC ENTITIES HANDS FROM
BE ABLE TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT
ACTION FOR NON PERFORMANCE
DURING THE COURSE OF A LABOR
DISPUTE WHICH IS NOT
UNFORESEEABLE OR FORCE MAJEURE.
AND SO THE NET IMPACT TO THE
PUBLIC HEALTH IS THAT THE
STRIKES GO ON LONGER. THE
INCENTIVES THAT THE CITIES OR
COUNTIES OR SPECIAL DISTRICTS
MIGHT OTHERWISE UNDERTAKE UNDER
GENERAL CONTRACT LAW OR INVOKING
LIQUIDATED DAMAGES ARE NOT
UNDERTAKEN BECAUSE OF THE FORCE
MAJEURE. LANGUAGE AND SO
INDIRECTLY YOU NOT ONLY BRINGING
THE PUBLIC ENTITY INTO THE
DISPUTE BUT YOU'RE USING THE
PUBLIC ENTITY TO PUT LEVERAGE ON
THE LABOR FORCE. INSTEAD OF THE
OTHER WAY SO I THINK THE IRONY
HERE WITH THE ARGUMENT THAT
WE'RE PUTTING OUR THUMB ON THE
SCALE IS. THIS INAPPROPRIATE
LANGUAGE. IS THE THUMB ON THE
SCALE AND IT SHOULD BE REMOVED
SO THAT THE NORMAL COURSE OF
CHECKS AND BALANCES BETWEEN THE-
CONTRACTING ENTITIES CAN. CAN
WORK WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO DO
AND I WILL I WOULD ALSO POINT
OUT. THAT THIS LANGUAGE IT IT
YOU KNOW THESE SAME FRANCHISE
INDUSTRY OPERATES VERY WELL. IN
MANY JURISDICTIONS WITHOUT THIS
LANGUAGE. AND IT'S NOT A PROBLEM
. AND THIS THE PROBLEM IS THE
LANGUAGE AND IT IS A MATTER OF
PUBLIC POLICY MADAM CHAIR THAT.
IS INAPPROPRIATE AND HAS
DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS TO PUBLIC
ENTITIES AND TO THE PUBLIC AT
LARGE. I'M SORRY ONE MORE
QUESTION MA'AM THERE WAS A
COMMENT MADE ABOUT HOW THIS ONLY
IMPACTED. UNIONIZED COMPANIES.
COULD YOU. RESPOND TO THAT
BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T APPEAR FROM
THE LANGUAGE THAT. THAT'S THE
CASE WELL I IMAGINE YOU COULD
CONSTRUE SCENARIOS WHERE THERE
MAY BE A BREAK DOWN WITH THE
WORK FORCE THAT WOULDN'T BE
NECESSARILY- ONLY RELATED TO-
REPRESENTATIVE COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING GROUP. AND I IMAGINE
IN THEORY- YOU CAN GET CREATIVE
WITH THIS SORT OF INAPPROPRIATE
LANGUAGE AND CONSTRUE IT THAT
WAY AS WELL- AND CONSTRAIN THE
ABILITY OF A PUBLIC ENTITY TO
ITS YOU KNOW TO UNDERTAKE THE
NORMAL ENFORCEMENT PROVISIONS
FOR NON AND NON PERFORMANCE- AND
SO MY POSITION WOULD BE THAT.
YOU KNOW THE LANGUAGE ITSELF IS
A UNNECESSARY BE TIPS THE SCALES
AND SEE IS INAPPROPRIATE AS A
MATTER OF PUBLIC POLICY. OTHER
COMMENTS AND CONCERNS BY THAT
COMMITTEE. CENTER I THINK SOME
ISSUES HAVE BEEN RAISED IN
REGARDS TO THAT- IT.
NEGOTIATIONS ARE CONTINUING TO
NEGOTIATE- IBM WE'VE HAD
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT- ABOUT
NEGOTIATING AND CONTINUE TO MEET
WITH EVERYBODY AND SO- CAN WE
HAVE A COMMITMENT THAT YOU'LL
CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THE- WASTE
HAULERS AND TRIED IT- WORK ON
SOME OF THE LANGUAGE ISSUES THAT
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. I DO
APPRECIATE THE OPPOSITION'S-
INPUT AND DESIRE WE WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM TO BE
ABLE TO IRON OUT DIFFERENCES
THAT'S THAT'S GREAT AND THEN
ALSO- ON THE WORK STOPPAGE
LANGUAGE- CONTINUE TO LOOK AT
THAT AND- IN AND REFINE IT IF
NECESSARY. YES I'M SURE YOU HAVE
MY COMMITMENT VERY VERY GOOD.
OBSCENE THERE'S NO FURTHER
SENATOR GLAZERS. I JUST
APPRECIATE THE CHAIR RAISING
THOSE ISSUES- I KNOW WERE ABSENT
A RESTORE ONE NUMBER HERE TODAY-
SENATOR BLAKE'S BEER- AND I DID
THAT- EXCHANGE MESSAGES WITH HER
SHE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BILL AS
YOU PRESENTED IT- BUT GIVEN THE
FACT THAT WE- NEED TO FIGHT TO
GET OUT AND THAT MAY NOT BE
HERE. ON THAT. THE DAY IS TODAY
I'VE IF REQUIRED I'LL SUPPORT
YOUR BILL MOVING FORWARD. AND I
HOPE THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE TO
WORK AS THE CHAIR INDICATES TO
TRY TO RESOLVE SOME OF THESE
ISSUES. THANK YOU MANAGER THANK
CENTER. SO ALL HELLO I WILL
ALLOW YOU TO GET TO CONCLUDE I
WOULD I WOULD RESPECTFULLY
ASTRONOMICAL THANK YOU VERY
MUCH- THERE IS A MOTION. IS OUR
MOTION SOME OF. CENTER DRAWS-
MOVED TO PASS AS AMENDED TO FOR.
SENATORS CABALLERO HI CABALLERO
ICE HERE TO GO THERE ARE TWO
KNOW BLAKE'S. DALI DALI NO GOOD
ALSO RUSSELL I GLAZER. SKINNER
HI SKINNER I WINNER WINNER I.
FORTY TWO. UP WITH FORTY TWO
WILL PUT THAT ON CALL. MOVING
MANAGER THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SENATOR. CRUCIATUS SENATOR ALAN
. GOOD MORNING. CENTER ALLEN HAS
FILE ITEM NUMBER TEN WHICH IS SB
. FIVE EIGHT EIGHTY EIGHT. IT IS
CRITICAL BECAUSE- GOOD MORNING
TOMORROW MORNING COMMITTEE
MEMBERS- SO. WE ALL- YOU KNOW A
LOT ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. CHALLENGES THAT OUR
STATE HAS- MEDIAN RENT IS
INCREASED ANYONE NEARLY 40% TWO
THOUSAND- BY TEAM HOUSING COMES
OFF THE CREASE BY ABOUT 7%
TWENTY JUSTICE FOR INFLATION- SO
WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND ALL
SORTS OF THOUGHTFUL ANGLES AND-
WITH REGARDS TO THE FOR THE
HOUSING CHALLENGES WE HAVE IS
THE STATE. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW
OUR NONPROFIT DEVELOPERS WHO USE
PUBLIC FUNDS LIKE TAX CREDITS.
OR STATE OR FEDERAL GRANTS OR
LOANS. HI TO BUILD AFFORDABLE
RENTAL HOUSING ARE AWARDED A ONE
HALF PERCENT PROPERTY TAX
EXEMPTION SO LONG AS 90% OF THE
TENANTS IN THE BUILDING ARE LOW
INCOME AND THEIR FAMILIES DON'T
EXCEED THE RENT LEVELS
PRESCRIBING STATUE FOR LOW
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. CONVERSELY
NONPROFIT DEVELOPERS OF A
PRIVATELY FUNDED PROJECT THAT
MEETS THE SAME REQUIREMENTS ARE
LIMITED TO A PROPERTY TAX WILL
FOR EXEMPTION OF TWENTY MILLION
DOLLARS. IN ASSESSED VALUE
ANNUALLY. SO THIS MEANS THAT
NONPROFIT THE TWENTY DOLLARS IN
SOME PARTS THE STATE- IT'S A LOT
OF MONEY EVERYWHERE BUT IT'S A
LOT LESS IN SOME PLACES VERSUS
OTHERS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WHEN IT
COMES TO PROPERTY- AND SO YOU
YOU END UP GETTING SITUATION OR
NONPROFIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING
DEVELOPERS WITH AROUND PROJECTS
AND HIGH ASSESSED VALUE. YES
LIKE INNER CITIES AND THOSE WITH
SEVERAL PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE THEY THEN FACE MORE COST
BURDENS AND TAX LIABILITIES AND
IF PUBLICLY FUNDED COUNTERPARTS.
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO FIND
WAYS TO STRETCH OUR DOLLAR WITH
REGARDS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
DEVELOPMENT IN IT YOU KNOW FROM
MY PERSPECTIVE IT JUST SEEMS
COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO TIE THE
HANDS OF NONPROFITS YOU WANNA
DANCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PROJECTS WITHOUT TAPPING INTO
PUBLIC RESOURCES- IF NONPROFIT
DEVELOPERS ARE WILLING TO. STEP
UP. AND HELP MEET THE
COMMUNITIES HOUSING NEEDS
CALIFORNIA SHOULD SHOULD BE
THERE WITH THEM- PROVIDING
OPPORTUNITIES ALLOW THEM TO
MAXIMIZE THEIR FUNDING IN IMPACT
. I SB FIVE EIGHTY EIGHT WILL
LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD ON
NONPROFIT DEVELOPERS BY REMOVING
THE CURRENT TWENTY MILLION
DOLLAR LIMIT ON PROPERTY TAX
WELFARE. EXEMPTIONS FOR
PRIVATELY FINANCED AFFORDABLE
RENTAL HOUSING PROJECTS IF
THERE'S TO CREATE KEY CRITERIA
FOR SMALL AT LEAST NINETY
PERCENT. OF THE UNITS HAVE TO BE
MADE CONTINUOUSLY AVAILABLE TO
OR BE OCCUPIED BY. LOWER INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS- HOUSEHOLD THROUGH
RECORDED DEED RESTRICTION. END
DO YOU NEED TO BOTH OF THESE SO
THE RENT LEVELS CHARGE FOR THOSE
UNITS CANNOT EXCEED THE EXISTING
DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE RENT
FOR LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. AS
PRESCRIBED BY STATUTE. OF THE
SPECIFIC DEFINITION OF
CONTINUOUS AVAILABILITY IN OUR
LANGUAGE OR IS THAT THE
EXEMPTION ONLY APPLIES IF
PROPERTIES. WHERE A COUNTY
ASSESSOR'S MANY VERIFY THE UNITS
ARE TRULY BEING OCCUPIED TO- YOU
KNOW OCCUPIED BY AND ADVERTISED
TO LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. SO
THIS IS REALLY REALLY FOCUSED ON
PROVIDING HOUSING TO. ARE YOU
KNOW MOST NEEDY. RESIDENTS THIS
ONE JUST ENSURE THAT THE
EXEMPTION TOOL CAN'T BE
EXPLOITED TO ALLOW FOR LAND
BANKING WHICH WAS A CONCERN.
WITH PASSAGE RATIONS OF THIS
THIS EFFORT BUT ALSO ENSURES
THAT THE UNITS THAT BENEFIT.
FROM THIS EXEMPTION WILL
MEANINGFULLY SERVE OUR MOST
VULNERABLE AND RED BIRD AND
COMMUNITY MEMBERS- A OUT HERE
WITH ME TODAY WE HAVE A GERMAN.
VAZQUEZ FROM THE CALIFORNIA
BOARD. OF EQUALIZATION THE BOARD
ACTUALLY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY
BIPARTISAN EVERYONE TED GAINES
WOULD AFFORD TO. I JUST SUPPORT
HI THIS IS IMPORTANT EFFORT. AND
THAT WE ALSO HAVE- SUSIE SHANNON
WHO'S WITH HOUSING IS A HUMAN
RIGHT. WE'LL START WITH. WELCOME
. WELCOME WELCOME AND THANKS FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY OF MADAM CHAIR.
AVAILABLE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
TO STAND HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
WORK WITH CENTER- FOR MET
SEVERAL MONTHS ON THIS ISSUE.
AND I ALSO REACHED OUT AND WORK
AND BEEN WORKING WITH MY SISTER
WHO MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW JEFF
PRANK. AND DIDN'T REALIZE THAT
THIS CAP WAS SUCH A HINDRANCE
AND LIKE THE SENATOR MENTIONED
YOU KNOW FORTY MILLION OR FOR
SOME REASON ABOUT AROUND FOR
SOME TIME WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A
PRETTY HIGH CAP BUT AS IT TURNS
OUT- SPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE
DEALING WITH THE WEST SIDE. OR
PARTS OF CALIFORNIA WHETHER IT'S
DOWN IN THE WEST SIDE OR UP HERE
IN THE BAY AREA TWENTY MILLION-
BY A NONPROFIT. IS NOT REALLY
CONSIDERED QUITE A BIT WHEN
YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE LAND
COST. SO LIFT IN THIS- TAP. WITH
THESE RESTRICTIONS I THINK WOULD
HELP AND CONTRIBUTE TO-
PROVIDING MORE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING END OF THE LANGUAGE IN
FIVE EIGHTY EIGHT- ALSO
SPECIFIES THAT. THEY WOULD BE
DEED RESTRICTED AND THAT WAS ONE
OF THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH-
MY ASSESSOR JEFFREY PRANG THEY
SAID THAT WE CAN PUT A DEED
RESTRICTION ON THAT. SO WE DON'T
HAVE LIKE THE CENTER MENTIONED-
LANDLORDS POLICY BENT LAND
BANKING OR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
THE SITUATION DOWN THE ROAD
BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE DEED
RESTRICTED THROUGH AT LEAST.
THAT 90% LEVEL SO IT WOULD TO
HOPEFULLY I CONTRIBUTED TO
TRYING MINIMIZE AND CREATE MORE
SUPPLY. IN THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING ARENA. SO WE'RE HOPING
THAT WE HAVE YOUR SUPPORT ON
THIS SO WE COULD LIFT THE CAP IN
BECAUSE OUR SEVERAL YOU'LL HEAR
FROM ONE OF THE NONPROFIT
SPECIFICALLY IN LA. AND I'M AS I
GO AROUND UP AND DOWN THE STATE
TALKING FROM THE NONPROFITS.
THAT SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE
WHOLE BACKS OF FOR MANY OF THESE
FOLKS. AND ONE OF THINGS WE'VE
BEEN DOING AT THE B. O. E. AS
WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO. FIGURE OUT
WAYS TO CREATE MORE TAX
INCENTIVES- FOR THOSE THAT ARE.
WILLING TO BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE
HOUSE AND WHETHER IT'S A NOT. OR
FOR PROFIT DEVELOPER. IN MANY OF
STEPPING UP TO THIS UP TO THE
PLATE TO. PROVIDE THAT SO WE'RE
HOPING. WITH THE PASSAGE OF FIVE
EIGHTY EIGHT WE CAN- PUT ANOTHER
DENT IN THIS MARKET- BECAUSE I
THINK WE- YOU KNOW AS A GOVERNOR
IS A CONSTANT TALKING ABOUT THE
NEED FOR MORE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. I THINK WE NEED TO TRY
AS MANY ARE USES MANY. TOOLS AS
POSSIBLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS
SO HOPEFULLY WE COULD. ALL
PERTINENT AND AT SOME POINT-
START MAKING A DENT IN THE- IN
THE SUPPLY AND THE DEMAND THAT
THE SOUTH ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE
YOUR TESTIMONY HERE TODAY. THANK
YOU FOR. HI GOOD MORNING MAN IN
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M
SUSIE SHANNON FROM HOUSING IS A
HUMAN RIGHT A DIVISION OF EACH
TRACK- HUNDRED SEVENTY ONE
THOUSAND PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. NUMBER
50% ARE RENT BURDENED AND OUR
CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE
DESPERATE FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING- AND FOR. SPECIFICALLY
FOR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES- WE
YOU KNOW OUR CURRENT LINES
ACTING AS SOMEWHAT OF A BARRIER
FOR THE BUILDING AND BUYING OF
THIS- LOW INCOME HOUSING. AND
THIS IS FOR IN OUR SENIORS ON A
FIXED INCOME. YOUR STARBUCKS FOR
RE STOP PEOPLE AT TARGET. YOU
KNOW WHO WORK AT TARGET- FOLKS
WHO MAKE MINIMUM WAGE ARE HAVING
A LOT OF TROUBLE OUR HOTEL
WORKERS SUFFICIENTLY- HAVING A
LOT OF TROUBLE FINDING HOUSING.
AND AT THE SAME TIME OR CITIES
AND COUNTIES ARE TRYING TO FIND
A SOLUTION TO THAT- WE SPEND A
LOT OF MONEY ON HOMELESS
SERVICES I'M ALSO HEALTH
COMMISSIONER FOR THE CITY OF LA.
AND TESTIFYING AS THE HOUSING IS
A HUMAN RIGHT WE SPEND A LOT OF
MONEY IM SERVICE IN OUR HOMELESS
POPULATION. AND BY PASSING THIS
LAW WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY- BE AN
INCENTIVE TO BUILDING OR BUYING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE ACTUALLY
CAN SAVE MONEY FOR CITIES AND
COUNTIES IN THE STATE- BECAUSE
WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT. FORTY FIVE
TO FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS
PER PERSON- AT ANNUALLY THAT'S
CHRONICALLY HOMELESS- AND SO
THIS ACTUALLY WILL- JUST PROVIDE
NONPROFIT TO DETER STICK THEIR
PROPERTIES AND PROVIDE AT LEAST
90% OF THE UNIT- CONTINUOUSLY TO
OUR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES- YOU
KNOW FOR. TO PROVIDE THAT
HOUSING WHICH IS VERY MUCH
NEEDED- WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
HOUSING ELEMENT PRETTY MUCH
ACROSS THE STATE. A LOT OF TIMES
YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH
PRODUCTION- OR BUYING OF HOUSING
FOR ARE EXTREMELY LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES ARE VERY LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES AND SO THIS WILL
ACTUALLY HELP THAT PARTICULAR
SITUATION- I DO HEARD THE BILL
UNANIMOUSLY. SUPPORTS THIS BILL-
ALONG WITH THE L. A. COUNTY
DEMOCRATIC PARTY COUNTY ASSESSOR
JEFFREY PRANG BECAUSE HE'S HUMAN
RIGHT. AND HF- THAT'S ALSO
MENTION THE KAISER FOUNDATION
HEALTH AND FOUNDATION HAVE
ALREADY PLEDGED TO PUT IN A
HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS 4100%
AFFORDABLE. HOUSING AND SO WE
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE
THOUSANDS ARE AND THEY- PEOPLE
ARE NOT GETTING- TAX THOUGH
THERE PER. ARE RATE THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE THERE
ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
. SEE NO ONE IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED MOVE ON TO THOSE IN
OPPOSITION ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY. THE
MORNING VENTURE BOTH THE LEADER
CALIFORNIA CITIES NOT IN
OPPOSITION BUT WE DO HAVE SOME
CONCERNS WITH THE BILL BUT I
THINK THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE FOR
WORKING WITH US AND LOOKING FOR
TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS
AS THE BILL MOVES FORWARD THANK
YOU. VERY GOOD IS THERE ANYONE
IN OPPOSITION. THEY JUST WANT TO
MAKE A COMMENT. SEE NO ONE ELSE
WILL MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE AND SEE IF
THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION. OF THIS SENATE BILL
. FIVE EIGHTY. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR IF YOU ARE IN AS SHE
STATED IF YOU ARE AN- OR OR
OPPOSITION TO SENATE BILL FIVE
EIGHT EIGHT PLEASE PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY. ZERO ONE FIVE EIGHT
ZERO. AND MEDICARE NOBODY IS
KILLING OUT. VERY GOOD WILL
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
FOR COMMENTS QUESTIONS CONCERNS
ANYONE. SENATOR GLAZERS. OF
CENTER ALLEN I APPRECIATE YOUR
WORK IN THIS AREA I MEAN THERE'S
NO DOUBT TO YOU AND TO ALL OF US
THAT WE ARE AND WE HAVE A
HOUSING CRISIS- AND I CERTAINLY-
GRIND AT SOME OF THE FINGER
POINTING THAT HAPPENS IN THE
SPACE CERTAINLY AS IT RELATES TO
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SOMEHOW. THE
FACT THAT THEY- ARE IMPEDIMENTS
AND- THEN WE ADD DEBATE QUITE-
THE GRISLY THAT THAT CONCERNING
THAT ISSUE- WITH COLLEAGUES
AROUND THE DAYS TODAY AND- AND
ON THE FLOOR- ABOUT THE REASON
THAT I THINK THIS BILL IS
PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT. IS
BECAUSE- WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA
TALK ABOUT THE ELEPHANT IN THE
ROOM. AND THAT'S THE PRIVATE
CAPITAL THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE
TO BUILD OURS OUR WAY OUT OF
THIS PROBLEM. AND THAT THAT YOU
KNOW WE TRY TO PUT BANDAIDS ON
IT- BY DOING PUBLIC FINANCING ON
VARIOUS YOU KNOW LOW INCOME
HOUSING BONDS AND A BIG
SUPPORTER OF THOSE TYPES OF
ACTIVITIES- WE FIGHT ABOUT.
WHETHER THE FINGER POINTING
SHOULD BE BECAUSE OF THE CITY'S
ZONING. OR IN TITLE MEANT
LIMITATIONS. BUT AT THE END OF
THE DAY IT'S ABOUT WHETHER
THERE'S A PROFIT. IN BUILDING
THAT IT IS THERE GOING TO BE THE
CAPITAL. THAT'S THE BILLIONS
THAT'S EVER GOING TO GET US OUT
OF THIS PROBLEM. AND YOUR BILL
IS ONE OF THOSE FEW BILLS THAT
FOCUSES ON THAT. THAT ELEPHANT.
WHICH IS THERE HAS TO BE A
BETTER. RISK REWARD-
CALCULATION. BOARD FOR ALL THAT
PRIVATE CAPITAL IS NEVER GOING
TO BE PUT TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO
GO. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE
PROTECTIONS THAT YOU PUT IN THIS
BILL. I THINK THE APPROPRIATELY
DONE. THAT AYE AYE I'M GLAD THAT
IT IS ANOTHER. A TOOL IN THE
TOOLBOX. THAT IS STILL REQUIRED
TO GET US OUT OF THIS HOUSING
CRISIS AND HAPPY IS FOR THE BILL
. READ THE COMMENTS QUESTIONS
CONCERNS. ALLEN ALLEN- TEN
MOTION. AND MOTIONS MADE BY
SENATOR GLAZER- THE SECOND MIGHT
. WHAT HE SAID- I THINK THIS IS
A OF ELEGANT SOLUTION AND OUT
OUT. ALLOW YOU TO CONCLUDE YEAH
I THINK SENATE RACE HE DOES A
GREAT JOB OF. RENTERS GOING WHY
THIS IS IMPORTANT. AND THANK YOU
AT WAS REALLY LOOKING FOR TO
WORKING WITH THE LEAGUE THANKS
FOR THE- IIHF AND- IN THE BOARD
FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS
IMPORTANT MEASURE AND WE'RE
SUCCESSION ABOUT. VERY GOOD
THERE IS A MOTION THE MOTION IS
TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. FETTERS
CABALLERO I SEVEN ZERO I SEYARTO
. THERE ARE TWO A- BEER. BELLY
DOLLY I DO WRESTLE. BROWN SO I
GLAZER. AS AYE SKINNER. SKINNER
I WIENER. WIENER I SEVENTY.
SEVEN TWO ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT.
AND ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO. FILE
ITEM NUMBER THIRTEEN SENATOR R.
O. NO I'M SORRY CENTER RUBIO IS
HERE- FILE ITEM NUMBER TWELVE SB
SEVEN THIRTY FOUR. INTERESTINGLY
PEOPLE SIGNATURE JUST. MISTER.
SENATOR RUBIO THE FLOOR'S YOURS
. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE- TODAY I AM
PROUD TO PRESENT SB SEVEN THIRTY
FOUR WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT BELT
THAT WILL BRING TAX RELIEF TO
CERTAIN LOW INCOME TENANTS THIS
IS A SIMPLE BELL BUT IT WILL
HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT FOR SO MANY
OF OUR LOW INCOME. FAMILIES WHO
ARE STRUGGLING ESPECIALLY THOSE
THAT LIVE IN PUBLICLY OWNED
HOUSING PROJECTS WE HAVE AN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS AS
WE'VE ALREADY HEARD IN THE
PREVIOUS BILL. AND SO FAMILIES
ARE HAVING A HARDER AND HARDER
TIME TRYING TO FIND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE
ARE WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE-
SOME FOLKS ARE HAVING TO GO TO-
HOMES THAT TAB AND BELONG TO
HOUSING PROJECTS SO ONE SOLUTION
IS SUPPORTING PUBLIC HOUSING
PROJECTS. ON BY THE GOVERNMENT
THESE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES OFFER
HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE
AFFORDABLE NONETHELESS THERE IS
A CONCERN. AS MANY OF US KNOW
CALIFORNIANS ARE CALIFORNIA LAW
EXAMS GOVERNMENT OWNED PROPERTY
FROM PROPERTY TAXES HOWEVER THE
LAW IS AMBIGUOUS IN THIS
PARTICULAR CASE WHETHER THE
EXCEPTION APPLIES WHEN A
PUBLICLY OWNED HOUSING PROJECT
LEASES HOUSING. UNITS TO LOW
INCOME FAMILIES WERE THE LAST
FEW DECADES AT THE CALIFORNIA
STATE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION HAS
ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE. UP WITH
SEVERAL LEGAL OPINIONS THOSE
LEGAL OPINION STATE THE LOW
INCOME TENANTS. THAT LIVE IN
THESE TYPES OF HOUSING PROJECTS
SHOULD NOT SHOULD NOT BE
CONSIDERED TO HOLD A TAXABLE
PROPERTY INTERESTS BECAUSE THEY
WOULD BE AGAINST THE STATE'S
INTEREST IN PROVIDING AFFORDABLE
PUBLIC HOUSING. TO IMPOSE SUCH
ATTACKS MY BILL SB SEVEN THIRTY
FOUR I WILL CODIFY THE
LONGSTANDING LEGAL OPINION OF
THE BOARD AND MAKES IT CLEAR
THAT THE STATE EXAM SAID THESE
LOW INCOME. TENANTS FROM PAYING
PROPERTY TAXES AS CALIFORNIA
AGAIN CONTINUES TO CONFRONT THIS
CRITICAL ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING SHORTAGE. SB SEVEN
THIRTY FOUR WILL ENSURE THAT
PUBLIC HOUSING PROJECTS CAN
CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE
SOLUTION OF ADDRESSING THIS
CRISIS OBISPO SUPPORTED BY THE
BOARD OF EQUALIZATION AND HAS NO
OPPOSITION AND WITH ME TODAY IS.
JOINING ME AS CHAIRMAN OF THE
BOARD UNTIL YOUR BASKETS WILL BE
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL THANK YOU. VERY GOOD THANK
YOU. GERMAN BUS EUROPE A-
WELCOME WELCOME. AND ONCE AGAIN-
USING. THANK YOU ARE. VENTURE
CAPITAL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS BILL
ONCE AGAIN THIS IS ANOTHER BILL
I THINK THAT WOULD HELP. IN THE
TOOL BOX THAT WAS MENTIONED
EARLIER IN TERMS OF PROVIDING
MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND
SOME FOLKS- THAT ARE OUT THERE-
DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE
PROCESS WITH POSSESSORY
INTERESTS AND THIS IS ONE OF THE
ISSUES WE HAVE AND WHEN YOU'RE-
PUTTING TOGETHER THESE JOINT
POWERS OF AUTHORITIES. THIS BILL
SEVEN ABOUT THIRTY FOUR WOULD
CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY WITHOUT
GIVING THEM THE TAXATION THAT
THEY WOULD RECEIVE OTHERWISE. SO
WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET
YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS YEAH YOU
KNOW THE BILL'S. THE BILL HE'S
BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR THE
LAST WORD ONCE YOU LIKE TWENTY
SEVEN YEARS NOW. IT'S BEEN
CONSTANTLY COMING UP THAT IS
WERE COMING MORE MORE WITH THIS
CRISIS ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
FRONT. WHERE WE FEEL THAT THIS
BILL A SEVEN THIRTY FOUR WOULD
ADDRESS THE ISSUE ON THE
POSSESSORY INTEREST FOR HOPE WE
CAN GET YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS.
AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM HERE AND WILLING
TO ANSWER WHATEVER I CAN. I ALSO
HAVE STAFF WITH WINTER VERY GOOD
THANK YOU SO MUCH APPRECIATE YOU
BEING HERE TODAY IS THERE
ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. AND SB SEVEN
THIRTY FOUR. SIGNON NO ONE IN
THE ROOM IS THERE ANYBODY THAT
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. SEEING NO ONE WILL
GO TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE IS
OR ANYBODY ON THE
TELECONFERENCING THAT WOULD LIKE
TO TESTIFY EITHER IN SUPPORT OR
IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU BETTER
CHERISH YOUR SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION TO SENATE BILL S.
ARTIST S. B. SEVEN THREE FOUR
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS
TIME ONE ZERO. WE DO A ONE
QUEUING UP TO GIVE US ONE MOMENT
PLEASE. ANYBODY ELSE OUT OF GO
EIGHT EIGHT ONE FIVE EIGHT ZERO
SO THE OPERATOR CAN GIVE YOUR
LINE NUMBER. AND WE WERE LIKE
TWENTY ONE YOU ARE OPEN. ERIN AN
OPEN BEHALF OF LOS ANGELES
COUNTY ESPECIALLY JEFFREY. THE
COURT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MANCHURIA NOBODY ELSE TAKE YOU
UP. VERY GOOD- THAT WILL BRING
IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ANY.
COMMENTS QUESTIONS CONCERNS OR
MOTION. BILL THERE IS A MOTION
BY SENATOR WIENER- GOOD BILL.
YOU MAY CONCLUDE THANK YOU-
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AYE I JUST
THINK IT'S UNACCEPTABLE FOR US
TO EXPECT THESE LOW INCOME
FAMILIES TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
IT FOR PAYING THE TAXES AND I
KNOW THAT. THE ISSUE IS MUCH
BROADER BUT AT LEAST THIS BILL
WILL TACKLE. THIS ISSUE IN SOME
WAY TO HELP BRING RELIEF TO TAKE
THESE LOW INCOME FAMILIES AND
WITH THAT I ASK FOR YOUR IPHONE
THANK YOU VERY GOOD THE MOTION
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SENATORS
CABALLERO HI CABALLERO ICE TWO
SCARED TO- AYE BLAKE'S BEER
DOLLY DALI I THE RUSSELL RUSSELL
I GLAZER. GLAZER AYE SKINNER
SKINNER AYE WIENER. WIENER I
SEVEN ZERO SEVEN ZERO THAT BILL
IS OUT. MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER THIRTEEN SENATOR
ARCHULETA SB. EIGHT SEVENTY ONE.
WHERE IS YOUR SIR. THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR. AND MEMBERS- SENATE
BILL EIGHT SEVEN ONE SIX TO
PROVIDE A PROPERTY TAX RELIEF TO
VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. IN
CALIFORNIA VETERANS WHO OWN AND
OCCUPY A HOME AS YOUR PRIMARY
RESIDENCE YOU MAY BE ELIGIBLE
FOR A PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION
WHICH CAN HELP EASE THE
FINANCIAL BURDEN. OF OWNING A
HOME FOR THESE VETERANS. THIS
CAN BE ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR
VETERANS WHO ARE FACING OTHER
CHALLENGES RELATED TO THEIR
SERVICE SUCH AS MEDICAL BILLS OR
DISABILITIES ARE YOU IN PTSD.
EXEMPTION IS KNOWN AS THE
VETERANS EXEMPTION AND IT
PROVIDES FOUR THOUSAND DOLLAR
REDUCTION IN TAXABLE VALUE OF
THEIR PROPERTY. ACCORDING TO THE
STATE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION AT
ITS PEAK FROM. NINETEEN FIFTY
SIX TO NINETEEN SIXTY TWO OVER
ONE MILLION PERSONS RECEIVED THE
VETERANS EXEMPTION. HOWEVER DUE
TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL
RESTRICTIONS FOR THE EXEMPTION
THE VETERANS EXEMPTION HAS
BECOME OUTDATED AND OBSOLETE.
ACCORDING TO THE BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION ONLY ONE VETERANS
RECEIVED EXEMPTION AND TWENTY
EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY NINETEEN ONLY
ONE. THIS EXEMPTION HAS FALLEN
INTO DISUSE. BECAUSE OF ONLY
FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS. ANY
VETERANS WHO OWNS A HOME CAN
INSTEAD CLAIM A HOMEOWNER'S
EXEMPTION OF SEVEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS NEARLY TWICE THE AMOUNT
OF THE VETERANS EXEMPTION. SB
EIGHT SEVEN ONE MAKES CONFORMING
STATUTORY CHANGES TO EMPLOYMENT
SENATE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT
NUMBER SIX THAT WOULD ALLOW A
TAXPAYER CLAIMING THE
HOMEOWNER'S EXEMPTION WHO ALSO
CLAIMED THE DISABLED VETERANS
EXEMPTION OR VETERANS EXEMPTION
. WITH ME TODAY TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL AND TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THIS SCOTT
KAUFMAN. ON BEHALF OF THE
HARBORS JARVIS HOWARD JARVIS TAX
PAYERS ASSOCIATION AND FOR THE
RIGHT REASONS I ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WELCOME THANK YOU. ARE THE
VETERANS EXEMPTION HAS CURRENTLY
PRESCRIBED THE STATE
CONSTITUTION IS EFFECTIVELY
OBSOLETE. IT IT- THE MEASURES
EXEMPTION IS NOT ADJUSTED FOR
INFLATION AS SUCH THE EXEMPTIONS
VALUE REMAINS AT FOUR THOUSAND
DOLLARS WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT
OF FORTY DOLLARS IN REAL TERMS.
ALONG WITH THE LIMITATIONS ON
THE MAXIMUM TOTAL VALUE OF
PROPERTY OWNED BY THE VETERAN
AND TO REMAIN ELIGIBLE FOR THE
EXEMPTION NOT MANY TAKE IT FOR
EXAMPLE THERE THERE'S SOME
THERE'S SOME DISAGREEMENT OVER
HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE STATE
CLAIMED THE VETERANS EXEMPTION
BUT THE ESTIMATES RANGE FROM
ZERO TO TWO. MOREOVER THE
HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY TAX
EXEMPTIONS NEARLY TWICE THE
AMOUNT OF THE VETERANS EXEMPTION
SEVEN THOUSAND SEVENTY DOLLARS
IN REAL TERMS. BOTH EXEMPTIONS
PROHIBIT THE APPLICATION OF THE
OTHER EXEMPTION IN OTHER WORDS
IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY THE
VETERANS PROPERTY THE VETERAN
PROPERTY OWNER WOULD CLAIM THE
VETERANS EXEMPTION. THERE'S ALSO
ADDED CONCERNS NOW PROPOSITION
NINETEEN THERE ARE THERE ARE
ADDED TAX BENEFITS OF THE
HOMEOWNERS EXEMPTION IN CLAIMING
THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE FOR THE
PURPOSE OF INTERNATIONAL
TRANSFER. YOU CAN'T DO THAT IF
YOU CONVENTIONS EXEMPTION OR THE
DISABLED VETERANS EXEMPTION
BECAUSE THE CONTRACT ONE
ANOTHER- THIS BILL. WOULD ALLOW
YOU TO CLAIM ALL OF BOTH. ONE
TWO ARE ALL- AND ARE MENTORED
MEN AND WOMEN OF UNIFORM ARE
WILLING TO GIVE ALL FOR OUR
COUNTRY AND WE AND THIS IS I
FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE LEAST WE
COULD DO IS GIVE THEM A TAXPAYER
BENEFIT THAT. IS ACTUALLY WORTHY
OF THE NAME OF VETERANS. THANK
YOU THINK THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ROOM TWENTY
ONE HUNDRED THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. IS THERE
ANYONE IN TWENTY ONE HUNDRED
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. WILL MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE AND SEE IF
THERE'S ANYBODY ON THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE THAT WOULD
LIKE TO. TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
IN OPPOSITION. IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO S. B.
EIGHT SEVEN ONE. PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND THE
FIRST ONE HERE FROM LINE TWENTY
ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD. ERRED IN
OPEN BEHALF LOS ANGELES COUNTY
ASSESSOR JEFF BRING IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE NO
FURTHER COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
VERY GOOD WILL BRING THE- MATTER
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ARE THERE
ANY COMMENTS CONCERNS OR MOTIONS
. SENATOR SAY ARE TO MOVE THE
BILL. SEE NO FURTHER COMMENTS
WILL ALLOW YOU TO. ATTORNEY
FINISHER WHATEVER IT IS.
BECOMING A MANAGER AND NEVER
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR RIVAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH- THE MOTION
IS DUE PASSED YOU APPROPRIATIONS
. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SENATORS
CABALLERO HI CABALLERO AYE SEE
OUR TOWERS THERE ARE TWO. BLAKE
SPEIR DALI. DALI I DO RUSSELL.
RUSSELL I GLAZER. SKINNER
WIENER. WIENER I'M- FIVE TWO
ZERO FIVE ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT
WILL LEAVE IT ON CALL FOR IN THE
ABSENT MEMBERS. GOOD YOU HAVE
THE NEXT BILL WHICH IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOURTEEN S. C. A. SIX.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS SENATE CONSTITUTIONAL
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT SIX SIX
TO PROVIDE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF
TO VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
S. C. A. SIX IS A CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT THAT PAIRS WITH SENATE
BILL EIGHT SEVENTY ONE WHICH I
JUST READ. WHICH MAKES IT
NECESSARY. WHICH WHICH MAKES
NECESSARY STATURE STATUTORY
CHANGES TO THE HAD TO IMPLEMENT
THE CHANGE IN LAW. S. C. R. SIX
REMOVED A PROVISION IN THE
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION THAT
PREVENTS VETERANS CLAIMING THE
HOMEOWNER'S EXEMPTION FROM ALSO
CLAIMING DISABLED VETERANS OR
VETERANS EXEMPTION THEREBY
ALLOWING ELIGIBLE VETERANS TO
STACK THE EXEMPTION. IF APPROVED
BY THE VOTERS THE MEASURE WOULD
ALLOW A VETERAN WHO QUALIFIED
FOR THE VETERANS EXEMPTION OR
THE DISABLED VETERANS EXEMPTION
TO ALSO RECEIVE THE HOMEOWNER'S
EXEMPTION. UNDER CURRENT LAW IN
ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE
VETERANS EXEMPTION THE VETERAN
MAY NOT OWN PROPERTY REAL OR
PERSONAL WORTH MORE THAN AN
AGGREGATE OF FIVE THOUSAND
DOLLARS IF THE CLAIMANT IS
SINGLE OR TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS
IF MARRIED. S. C. R. S. C. AGE.
OF SIX MODERNIZES THE BEDROOMS
EXEMPTION BY REMOVING THOSE
ARBITRARY LIMITATIONS A VETERAN
MUST MEET IN ORDER TO QUALIFY
FOR THE EXEMPTION. BERZON IN
CALIFORNIA WE'VE WE HAVE A PROUD
TO BE A PROUD TRADITION OF
SUPPORTING OUR VETERANS WE'VE
ALWAYS RECOGNIZE THE SACRIFICES
THAT THEY HAVE MADE- AND WE ARE
COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THEM WITH
THE BEST SUPPORT. THAT THEY NEED
THAT IS WHAT WE DO IN CALIFORNIA
UPDATING THE VETERANS EXEMPTION
IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS
COMMITMENT. AND IS ANOTHER WAY
FOR CALIFORNIA TO SHOW ITS
SUPPORT IT AND- TO LET OUR
VETERANS KNOWS THE VALUE THAT
THEY HAVE. TO OUR STATE TO OUR
NATION AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS
TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES AS WELL
AND OUR GREAT GREAT COUNTRY.
WITH THE- WITH YOU TODAY AGAIN
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT THE BILL.
THE DANCER QUESTIONS A SCOTT
KAUFMAN ON BEHALF THE HOWARD
JARVIS. TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION.
WELCOME THANK YOU I'LL BE SURE
BECAUSE THE ARGUMENTS ARE
EFFECTIVELY THE SAME THIS BILL
IS JUST NECESSARY BECAUSE THE
HOMEOWNERS EXEMPTION VETERANS
EXEMPTION THE TABLE DISABLED
VETERANS EXEMPTION ARE ON THE
CONSTITUTION SO WE NEED
CONFORMING CHANGES IN THE
CONSTITUTION FOR. SB EIGHT SEVEN
ONE TO COME INTO EFFECT THE ONLY
ADDED BENEFIT HERE IS THAT IT
REMOVES- SOME OF THE LANGUAGE
THAT MAKES IT EFFECTIVELY
IMPOSSIBLE TO RAISE THE VETERANS
EXEMPTION NOW IT WOULD GIVE THE
LEGISLATURE THAT ABILITY TO
RAISE RATES IN THE FUTURE IF
THEY SO CHOOSE. THANK YOU VERY
GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS
THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IN ROOM
TWENTY ONE HUNDRED. IS THERE
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED. MOVING ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE IS OR
ANYBODY ON THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO. TO TEST
RIGHT EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO S. B.
A. SIX. PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE A COMMENT
FROM LINE TWENTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. I ONCE AGAIN AND THEN
WORK ON BEHALF OF LOS ANGELES
COUNTY AT THAT PROJECT BRING IN
SUPPORT OF THAT IS. THANK YOU.
AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT
AT THIS TIME. VERY GOOD WILL
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE-
SAME. SAME DRILL ANYBODY IN-
WANT TO. MAKE A COMMENT OR-
SENATOR SAY ARE TO MOVES THE
BILL. THING NO OTHER COMMENTS
YOU MAY CONCLUDE. AND SHARE
MEMBERS. I URGE YOUR AYE VOTE
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THANK
YOU VERY MUCH PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. AT THE MOTION IS TO ADOPT
AND REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
ELECTIONS AND CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENTS. SENATORS CABALLERO
BYE CABALLERO I SEYARTO THERE
ARE TWO AYE PLAY EXPERIENCE
DALI. DALI I DO WRESTLE. THE
REST SO I. GLAZER ICE. SKINNER
AYE WIENER WIENER I AM SEVEN
ZERO. VERY GOOD- WE'RE GONNA
MOVE ON TO- SENATOR SAY ARE TOO
I DON'T SEE SENATOR HER TIGHTER
HERE HE'S A LAST- INDIVIDUAL
IT'S NOT ON THE COMMITTEE SO
WILL. TAKE UP YOUR NEXT DOWNTURN
ON LIFE YOU WALK. A GOOD DEAL.
COUGHED THAT GOING BACK TO. A
SIX THAT BILL IS OUT. IF WE
FINISH THAT WE. YEAH SORRY ABOUT
THAT I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF. IF
THE FILE ITEM NUMBER SIXTEEN S.
B. TWO THIRTY. THE FLOOR IS
YOURS THANK YOU ON A WHEELCHAIR
AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT SB TWO
THIRTY AND I ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE'S PROPOSED TECHNICAL
AMENDMENTS. SO THIS BILL IN
PARTIAL CONFORMITY WITH FEDERAL
TAX LAW WOULD ALLOW INCOME
ELIGIBLE TAXPAYERS TO CLAIM A
TAX DEDUCTION EQUAL TO THE
AMOUNT THE TAXPAYER CONTRIBUTES
TO A HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS WERE
CREATED BY FEDERAL LAW
EXCLUSIVELY TO PAY FOR THE
QUALIFIED MEDICAL EXPENSES OF
THE ACCOUNT HOLDER AND HIS OR
HER SPOUSE AND DEPENDENTS. I NAY
CHASE THEY'RE CALLED H. H. S. AS
MADE ONLY BE OPEN FOR
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INSURED
UNDER A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH
PLAN. AND THE BALANCE IN AN S.
H. S. H. CAN GROW ON A TAX FREE
BASIS PROVIDED THAT WITHDRAWALS
ARE USED FOR A QUALIFIED MEDICAL
EXPENSE HOWEVER CALIFORNIA IS
CURRENTLY ONE OF ONLY TWO STATES
THAT CURRENTLY TAX CONTRIBUTIONS
TO THESE ACCOUNTS. THE OTHER
STATE IS NEW JERSEY.
HISTORICALLY THE CALIFORNIA
LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN CONCERNED
THAT ALLOWING HSA CONTRIBUTIONS
TO TAX DEDUCTIBLE TO BE TAXED TO
DEATH DEDUCTIBLE WOULD AMOUNT TO
AN- INEQUITABLE TAX BREAK FOR
HIGHER INCOME EARNERS. THIS IS
BECAUSE HIGHER INCOME EARNERS
ARE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE THE
DISCRETIONARY INCOME AVAILABLE
TO CONTRIBUTE TO AN H. AT EIGHT
IN THE FIRST PLACE. HOWEVER THE
FACT THAT HIGHER INCOME EARNERS
ARE MORE LIKELY TO CONTRIBUTE TO
AN H. AS A DOES NOT. MEAN THAT
LOWER INCOME CONTRIBUTORS DO NOT
EXIST. UNFORTUNATELY
CALIFORNIA'S CURRENT POLICY ON
HSA CONTRIBUTIONS. LEAVES LOWER
INCOME EARNERS BEHIND AND
PROVIDES NO RELIEF FOR THOSE WHO
CANNOT AFFORD ANY MONTHLY
PREMIUMS OTHER THAN THOSE
OFFERED. BY HIGH DEDUCTIBLE
HEALTH PLANS. I BELIEVE THAT
THERE IS A MIDDLE ROAD THAT IS
MINDFUL OF EQUITY WHILE ALSO
EMPOWERING CALIFORNIANS WITH
ANOTHER TAX ADVANTAGED TOOL TO
PAY FOR EVER INCREASING HEALTH
CARE COSTS. SB TWO THIRTY
ACCOMPLISHES THIS GOAL. BY
SPECIFYING THAT AN INDIVIDUAL
MAKING LESS THAN FORTY TWO
THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR OR A
FILING HOUSEHOLD MAKING LESS
THAN EIGHTY SEVEN THOUSAND A
YEAR IS ELIGIBLE TO DEDUCT.
THEIR HSA CONTRIBUTIONS FROM
THEIR TAXABLE INCOME. TO BE
CLEAR THIS BILL DOES NOT CREATE
PROMOTE OR COMPEL PEOPLE TO
ENROLL IN A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE
HEALTH PLAN HIGH DEDUCTIBLE
HEALTH PLANS HAVE THE ADVANTAGE
OF MORE AFFORDABLE MONTHLY
PREMIUMS. AND THE DRAWBACK OF
HIGH OUT OF POCKET DEDUCTIBLE
COSTS IN THE EVENT THAT CARE
BECOMES NECESSARY. CALIFORNIANS
MUST MAKE THE DECISION WHICH
PLAN IS MOST APPROPRIATE FOR
THEMSELVES AND THEIR INDIVIDUAL
CIRCUMSTANCES. HOWEVER THEY
SHOULD SHOULD THEY FIND IT
NECESSARY TO ENROLL IN A HIGH
DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN IT IS MY
HOPE THAT SB TWO THIRTY WOULD
PROVIDE SOME RELIEF TO MAKE THAT
THAT DEDUCTIBLE A LITTLE BIT
MORE MANAGEABLE. FOR THOSE WHO
NEED IT. SO UP HEALTH CARE COSTS
AND ESPECIALLY TRYING TO MEET
THAT DEDUCTIBLE IS ONE OF THE
ISSUES THAT LOWER INCOME
FAMILIES ARE HAVING- ONE TRIP TO
THE HOSPITAL WITH A HIGH
DEDUCTIBLE- WILL SET THEM BACK
FINANCIALLY- FOR THEIR ENTIRE
YEAR. AND SOMETIMES- IF IT IS A
EXPENSIVE ENOUGH TRIP TO THE
HOSPITAL IT CAN BANKRUPT THEM.
SO HAVING AN HSA AVAILABLE AND
AN INCOME TAX DEDUCTION TO
ENCOURAGE THAT AND- AND ALSO
BEING ABLE TO BUILD THAT UP IF
THEY'RE NOT DEAL FOR. THE ENTIRE
YEAR THEY THAT CONTINUES BUILD
UP WITH INTEREST AND- AND SO- SO
I YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S VERY
USEFUL TOOL. AND I THINK- SO IT
WOULD BE VERY- VERY HELPFUL- TO
PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT
CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THEY HAVE
THESE. EXTREMELY HIGH
DEDUCTIBLES JUST SO THEY CAN
AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE SO THAT
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE I DID NOT
BRING ANY EXPERT WITNESSES.
TODAY TO TESTIFY. TRY TO BE
BRIEF BLESS YOU THANK YOU. SO
WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE IN
ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED THAT.
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT. S. B. TWO THIRTY. IS
THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. GOOD
MORNING SURE MEMBERS JOSE
TOWARDS WITH HEALTH ACCESS
CALIFORNIA THE STATEWIDE HEALTH
CARE CONSUMER ADVOCACY
COALITION. I'M HERE TODAY IN
OPPOSITION TO SB TWO THIRTY AND
I DO WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
COUNSEL AND THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE.
WITH MEETING ME IN HEARING OUR
CONCERNS THROUGHOUT THE US THE
GENERAL PROCESS- WE DO
APPRECIATE THAT THE AUTHORS
OFFICE TOOK SOME OF OUR CONCERNS
IN AMENDED LANGUAGE TO ADD THE
INCOME LIMITS. TO THE TAX
DEDUCTION AS IT HAS BEEN FOUND
AS MENTIONED THAT HAVE HSA IS
REALLY JUST TEND TO FAVOR HIGHER
INCOME INDIVIDUALS. WHO USE WHO
USE THESE AGENCIES MORE THAN
OTHERS. THAT BEING SAID HOW IT
ACTS AS A STILL OPPOSED TO THIS
BILL. HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS
THEMSELVES DO NOT PROVIDE HEALTH
CARE COVERAGE THEY ARE LINKED TO
HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLANS AND WITH
THESE TYPES OF PLANS THEY ARE
JUST GREATLY ON AFFORDABLE. AS
CONSUMERS WILL PAY POTENTIALLY.
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND
DEDUCTIBLES BEFORE THE PLAN
COVERS ANYTHING. IN TWENTY
TWENTY THREE THE MINIMUM
DEDUCTIBLE WAS SET AT FIFTEEN
HUNDRED DOLLARS BUT MOSTLY
DOCTOR BILLS ARE MUCH HIGHER.
MOSTLY ARE DOUBLE THE RANGE
BETWEEN SEVENTEEN HUNDRED AND
FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND FREE
CONSUMER THIS IS A LARGE AMOUNT
OF MONEY THAT THEY MUST PAY IN
ORDER. TO HAVE THEIR HEALTH
INSURANCE PAY FOR COVERAGE.
HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS WERE
LINKED TO THESE UNAFFORDABLE
HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLANS
BECAUSE THE IDEA MANY YEARS AGO
WAS THAT IT WOULD INCREASE COST
CONSCIOUSNESS WITH IN. HEALTH
CARE COVERAGE BUT INSTEAD IT
JUST HAS HAS A H. S. EIGHT HAVE
ONLY ACTED AS A REALLY SMALL
BANDAID WHILE HEALTH CARE COSTS
AND ANNUAL DEDUCTIBLES KEEP
INCREASING ANNUALLY. PROVIDING A
TAX DEDUCTION DOES NOT ADDRESS.
THE SYSTEMIC AFFORDABILITY
ISSUES WITH AND HIGH DEDUCTIBLE
PLANS. AND INSTEAD ONLY
ENCOURAGES RELIANCE ON THESE LOW
VALUE PAN THAT CAN HAVE
CATASTROPHIC FINANCIAL IMPACTS.
ON ENROLLEES WHO NEED CARE.
AGENCIES ARE REALLY JUST A TAX
ADVANTAGE MASQUERADING AS HEALTH
POLICY IS HEALTH. CARE
EFFICIENCY. BUT IN REALITY THEY
ARE CONNECTED TO ON AFFORDABLE
PLANS THAT NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE
IMPACT OF CONSUMERS. AS SUCH I
DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THIS
BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS
THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE
THIS RAN UP IN OPPOSITION ROOM
TWENTY ONE HUNDRED. SAYING
NOBODY COME FORWARD WILL MOVE ON
TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE AND
ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL. FOUR COMMENTS IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION TO S. B. TWO
THIRTY PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE NO
COMMENT. GOOD WILL BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE ARE THERE ANY
COMMENTS QUESTIONS CONCERNS.
THERE IS A MOTION MOTION AT. THE
CENTER SKINNER. YES UGH. BY MIKE
SIGNED- I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING
YOUR BILL TODAY- THE I THINK
HEALTH. SKEWS ME HEALTHAXIS MADE
SOME VERY RELEVANT POINTS- I
THINK ALL OF US OBVIOUSLY WHEN
WE EVERY YEAR. WHEN WE- ARE ABLE
TO- SET UP TO USE OUR HEALTH
PLAN. AND IF SO FOR EMPLOYED BY
THE SENATE WE ALSO AT THAT TIME
BECAUSE YOU DO IT IN IN A
PARTICULAR TAX YEAR CAN CHOOSE
WHETHER WE SET UP A HEALTH
SAVINGS ACCOUNT. AND WHEN YOU
LOOK INTO THE DETAILS OF SETTING
ONE UP. IN FOR MA MOST OF US
WITH EMPLOYER SUPPORTED HEALTH
CARE PLANS. IT IS THERE'S NO
REAL ADVANTAGE BECAUSE MOST OF
THE EMPLOYER SUPPORTED HEALTH
CARE PLANS DO NOT HAVE THESE
HIGH DEDUCTIBLES SO THERE'S NO
REAL ADVANTAGE TO THE HEALTH
SAVINGS ACCOUNT. NOW FOR OUR
LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS THE-
THERE'S WE IN CALIFORNIA ARE. WE
HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING COVERED
CALIFORNIA AND STRANGERS TO
PROVIDE THE BEST PLANS POSSIBLE
THAT COULD NOT HAVE HIGH
DEDUCTIBLES. OR TWO FOR THE
LOWEST INCOME EXPAND TO MEDICATE
ALL. AND SO THE NET RESULT IS
THAT IN CALIFORNIA IT REALLY IS
HIGH INCOME EARNERS BY AND LARGE
WHO USE THESE HSA. AND THEY'RE
THEIR ORIGIN NATION WAS IT WAS
AS A FEDERAL LAW IN EFFECT WAS
TO IN IN A WAY WAS KIND OF A
BANDAID. INSTEAD OF PROVIDING
ANY KIND OF REAL HEALTH CARE
COVERAGE OR MANDATING REAL
HEALTH CARE COVERAGE SO I DON'T
THINK THAT IT IS WISE FOR
CALIFORNIA ANY TAX CREDIT IS A
TAX EXPENDITURE. AND GIVEN THAT
WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE NOW EVEN
TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE TO MAKE
SURE THAT OUR- COVERED
CALIFORNIA PLANS ARE AFFORDABLE
AND THEY HAVE LOW DEDUCTIBLES.
AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE
OUR STATE RESOURCES FOR THAT
PURPOSE I DON'T THINK IT IS WISE
FOR US TO USE A TAX EXPENDITURE
FOR THIS PURPOSE AND SO I WILL
NOT BE SUPPORTING THE BILL. RE
GOOD ANY OTHER COMMENTS. I
CENTERS HERE TO FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE I REALLY- KIND OF
AGONIZED OVER THIS BECAUSE-
PEOPLE MAKE. MAKE CHOICES ABOUT
THEIR HEALTH CARE COVERAGE BASED
ON HOW THEY CURRENTLY ARE. AND
AND YOU CAN IT IT IT HOW THE
CURRENTLY ARE IN TERMS OF
THEMSELVES IN THEIR FROM FAMILY
MEMBERS THEIR HEALTH BUT ALSO
BASED ON INCOME. AND WHAT I
REALLY APPRECIATE ABOUT WHAT YOU
DID WITH THE BILL AS YOU MADE
IT- INCOME ELIGIBLE TAXPAYERS SO
THAT WE DON'T INDICATING THAT
THE TAXPAYERS THAT ARE- THAT
HAVE THE MEANS TO BE ABLE TO- TO
MAKE MAKE DIFFERENT CHOICES- I
THINK YOU THAT. MANY TIMES-
PEOPLE KICK THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE
ONE BECAUSE- THEY DON'T FEEL
LIKE THEY NEED VERY MUCH
COVERAGE. AND THEY PICKED THE
HSA JUST IN CASE- AND SOMETIMES
IT'S BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A LOT
OF. EXPENSES THEY NEED TO PAY IN
THE HSA IS JUST A REALLY EASY
WAY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF
THAT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S
RESOURCES- SO I'M IN I'M IN A
SUPPORTED TODAY I HAVE SOME
CONCERNS ABOUT IT MOVING
FORWARD- I THINK THAT SENATOR
SKINNER- OUTLINED THEM- PRETTY
SIX ASSISTS. THE SIMPLY BUT- I.
D. THE CHALLENGE I HAVE WITH
SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS IN
OPPOSITION IS THAT WE WANT TO
DRIVE PEOPLE TOWARDS A DIFFERENT
KIND OF MODEL AND- WHILE I AGREE
THAT THAT MAY BE- SOMETHING WE
WANT TO DO PEOPLE MAKE. CHOICES
ON ON THEIR OWN AND- AND THEY
THEY DECIDE WHETHER THEY'RE
GOING TO MOVE TO ANOTHER MODEL
OR NOT OR WHETHER THEY CAN
AFFORD IT QUITE FRANKLY AND SO.
I'M I'LL SUPPORTED TODAY THAT NO
GUARANTEE THAT ALL SUPPORTED ON
THE FLOOR BUT I DO APPRECIATE-
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE
WHICH IS TO CREATE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO COVER
THEIR- HEALTHCARE COSTS AND TO
DO IT IN A WAY. THAT PROVIDES
THEM A BENEFIT IF THEY'RE LOW IF
THEY'RE NOT HIGH INCOME. SO I'LL
ALLOW YOU TO THAT CONCLUDED AND
DINNER DOLLY DID YOU WANNA MAKE
A COME. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS
INVESTMENT THAT YOU YOU CHOOSE
TO MAKE WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT TO
GET PEOPLE. TO GET BETTER
COVERAGE AND IT'S THEIR CHOICE I
MEAN WE CAN HELP INCENTIVIZE OUT
THEY THINK THAT'S AWESOME IT'S
ANOTHER AVENUE FOR. ACTUALLY
GETTING PEOPLE HEALTHIER. AND SO
IT'S IN THE BEST WITH THE WAY I
LOOK AT. PERSONAL INVEST IN OUR
HOUSE. CENTERS THEY ARE TO THAT
SOMETHING GOOD CLOSE. IT ALMOST
IT SOUND LIKE A RECKLESS.
HOWEVER I'M SAD CENTER SKINNER
DOES NOT WANT TO VOTE. VOTE FOR
MY BILL TODAY. HOWEVER- I DID
WANT TO ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT OF
THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE
GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP- A YEAR
OLD AN HSA IS PART OF A
FINANCIAL PLAN. IN THOSE
FINANCIAL PLANS ARE BUILT AROUND
AN ABILITY FOR YOUR FAMILY. TO
PAY FOR EXPENSES THAT MAY BE
UNEXPECTED THAT MIGHT COME UP.
AND IN IT'S JUST ANOTHER TOOL
FOR THAT- FORTY EIGHT OTHER
STATES. ALLOW THIS DEDUCTION FOR
JUST THAT REASON- THE ANSWER TO
OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM COST TOO
MUCH. IS IT CAN'T BE- SOLVED BY
AN HSA. THAT IS NOT GOING TO
SOLVE THAT BUT WHAT WE'LL DO IS
GIVE SOME FAMILIES ESPECIALLY
LOW INCOME FAMILIES. THE
OPPORTUNITY. TO SAVE SOME MONEY
UP. IN CASE THEY DO GET HIT.
BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S A HIGH
DEDUCTIBLE. OR THE LOW
DEDUCTIBLE BECAUSE THE LOW
DEDUCTIBLES AREN'T THAT LOW-
THEY STILL NEED SOME KIND OF
HELP- THEY STILL NEED THAT MIGHT
BE PART OF THE PLANNING. OFFSET
SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE
CHOICE OKAY DO I PAY MY HOSPITAL
BILL MY HOSPITAL DEDUCTIBLE BILL
THIS MONTH OR DO I PAY MY RENT.
THEY'VE ALREADY SAVE THE MONEY
UP IT'S BUILDING UP THERE IT'S A
IT'S A IT'S- IT'S ON THE SIDE.
JUST LIKE YOU WOULD DO FOR ANY
OTHER UNEXPECTED EXPENSES IT'S
AN INSURANCE POLICY WITH AN
INSURANCE POLICY. AND THAT'S WHY
I BROUGHT THIS BILL FORWARD-
BECAUSE I DO SEE A LOT OF THESE
ISSUES- WITH TAX CLIENTS. THAT
MIGHT MY WHITE HOUSE AND- IN I
CAN SEE WHERE THIS WOULD BE VERY
HELPFUL TO THEM. AND SO- IN
DEFERENCE TO THE OPPOSITION-
THIS IS BETTER THAN THEM
CHOOSING NOT TO HAVE ANY
HEALTHCARE PLAN AND TRYING TO
FLY UNDER THE RADAR. AND THEN
BEING HIT WITH A TWENTY THOUSAND
DOLLAR HOSPITAL BILL- SO- WITH
THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR AYE
VOTE AND- AND- I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR THAT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH CENTER- DID YOU TAKE THE
TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS THAT WERE
ADDRESSED IN THE- I MOST
DEFINITELY DID GREAT VERY GOOD.
SO THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THERMOS
CABALLERO HI CABALLERO I SEYARTO
. HI THERE ARE TO ARE A PLAGUE
SPEAR DOLLY FOLEY DO WRESTLE.
GLAZER GLAZER AYE SKINNER.
SKINNER NO WINNER WINNER AT NO.
FORTY TWO. BILL FAILS CENTER.
WILL MOVE- I'M WILLING TO GRANT
A RECONSIDERATION- YES IF I
COULD ASK FOR RECONSIDERATION I
WOULD APPRECIATE THAT OKAY. THAT
OBJECTION- WILL MOVE ON TO FILE
ITEM NUMBER SEVENTEEN. SB TWO.
FORTY THREE CENTERS SERRA ESSAY
ARE TO THIS IS YOURS TOO. THANK
YOU I'M HERE TO PRESENT SB TWO
FORTY THREE SB TWO FORTY THREE
SEEKS TO ESTABLISH A SALES TAX
EXEMPTION ON FIREARM SAFETY
DEVICES. A FIREARM SAFETY
DEVICES ANYTHING FROM A STEEL
CORD LOCKED WITH A KEY TO A FULL
SIZED SAFE OR LOCKBOX THESE
DEVICES CAN BE CAN PREVENT ACTS
OF GUN VIOLENCE SUICIDE AND GUN
RELATED CRIMES A LOT OF TIMES
THESE ARE CRIMES THAT ARE
COMMITTED AT THE SPUR OF THE
MOMENT- AND- AND SO IT CAN MAKE
IT MORE CHALLENGING FOR THEFT
AND MISUSE OF OUR FIREARMS.
ACROSS THE COUNTRY STATES LIKE
TENNESSEE CONNECTICUT MAINE
MASSACHUSETTS TEXAS VIRGINIA AND
WASHINGTON INCENTIVIZE GUN SAFE
OWNERSHIP TO VARIOUS TAX BREAKS
ON FIREARM SAFETY DEVICES
CALIFORNIA HAS ROBUST RULES
REGULATIONS AND HARSH PENALTIES
REGARDING FIREARMS. AND ARE
THERE ARE RANKED FIRST IN THE
NATION BY GIFFORDS LAW CENTER
FOR THE STRENGTH OF OUR GUN
LAWS. SB TWO FORTY THREE
INSURERS THE CALIFORNIA
RESIDENTS HAVE THE RESOURCES AND
OPPORTUNITIES TO PRACTICE SAFE
AND RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERSHIP BY
ESTABLISHING A TAX EXEMPTION.
FROM STATE SALES TAX YES THE
STATE SALES TAX ON THESE FIREARM
DEVICES AND I DO HAVE SEVERAL CO
AUTHORS. MISTER GLAZER. WITH
THAT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE AND I DID NOT
BRING ANY WITNESSES IN KEEPING
WITH MY TRYING TO STAY
STREAMLINED IN OUR PRESENTATION
PROCESS. VERY GOOD MANY CHECK
AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN
ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED IT LIKE
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OF S. B. TWO FORTY THREE. IS
THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. THING NO
ONE WILL GO TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE AND SEE IF
THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE
TO TESTIFY EITHER IN SUPPORT OR
IN OPPOSITION TO S. B. TWO FORTY
THREE. TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO AT
B. TWO FORTY THREE PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND WE
HAVE A COMMENT FROM LINE
THIRTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
KATIE HARTMAN THE CALIFORNIA
TEACHERS ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION
. VERY GOOD THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT
AT THIS TIME. VERY GOOD WILL
BRING THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE.
COMMENTS QUESTIONS. HEY CENTER
SKINNER. APOLOGIES SENATOR CERTO
BUT I'M IN A SIMILAR POSITION
THOUGH DIFFERENT REASONS BUT-
AGAIN THIS IS A TAX CREDIT A TAX
CREDIT IS A TAX EXPENDITURE. AND
GIVEN THAT- GUN SAFETY IS A
PARAMOUNT CONCERN FOR ALL OF US
WHILE. WHEN YOU KNOW WE SAY WELL
WE SHOULD INCENTIVIZE IT ON THE
OTHER HAND. IT IS SOMETHING THAT
IN MANY CASES WITH MANDATED AND-
I DON'T THINK THAT IN THOSE KIND
OF CIRCUMSTANCES WE SHOULD THEN
ALSO BE REWARDING WITH TAX
CREDITS SO- YOU KNOW I IF I
THINK ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT-
SAFETY MECHANISMS ON CARS OR
SAFETY MECHANISMS ANOTHER TYPE
OF CONSUMER PRODUCTS THAT WE
DON'T OFFER. TAX CREDITS FOR I
THINK IN THIS ONE THIS IS ONE OF
THESE WHERE A CONSUMERS WITH GUN
SHOULD HAVE THESE DEVICES AND WE
SHOULD NOT BE- IN A SITUATION OF
HAVING TO USE STATE FUNDS TO
REWARD THEM FOR DOING WHAT IS-
AS MIKE KERR A COLLEAGUE MISTER
BRADFORD VOICES COMMONSENSE. SO
I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL TODAY VERY GOOD OTHER
COMMENTS QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
THERE IS A MOTION BY SENATOR
DOLLY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS-
CENTERED I HAVE THAT THE EXACT
SAME ISSUE AND YOU KNOW THIS IS
ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE- WITH
ALL THE VIOLENCE WE'VE SEEN IN
OUR COUNTRY- IT IS. IT IT IT
SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER DAY. TWO
AM. TO DO SOMETHING THAT WILL
INCREASE THE POSSIBILITY THAT
PEOPLE GET LOCKING DEVICES. BUT
THE REALITY THE SITUATION IS
THIS IS BEEN THE LAW IN
CALIFORNIA FOR MANY YEARS. AND
AND IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF
GUN OWNERS TO SAFELY SECURE
THOSE GUNS AND TO KEEP THEM OUT
OF THE HANDS OF. A VOTE OF
CHILDREN IN INDIVIDUALS THAT
WANT TO DO BAD THINGS WITH THEM
AND SO ON I HAD THE SAME ISSUE
JUST IN TERMS OF WHETHER WE
SHOULD BE. UTILIZING OUR TAX
DOLLARS IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT.
MORE AVAILABLE AND SO OUR
ALLOWED YOU TO IT TO CONCLUDE
RIGHT WELL I APPRECIATE THAT
AND- AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
CONCERNS AS WELL. OF MY CONCERNS
COME FROM A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT
PERCEPTION I KNOW- WE DO HAVE
LAWS THAT WHEN YOU'RE BUYING A
NEW FIRE FIREARMS THAT YOU HAVE
TO HAVE A BIOSAFETY LOCKING
DEVICE BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF FIRE
ARMS OUT THERE- THAT WERE
PURCHASED BEFOREHAND BEFORE THIS
LAW CAME INTO. EFFECT IN ALSO-
GUNS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED
ALONG- DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS AL
ALSO THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT-
WORDS WERE WITHOUT KIDS BEFORE
THEY- THE WHEN THEY PURCHASE
THEIR GUNS. AND NOW THEY ARE AND
IF THERE IS A- HAVE GUNS IN
THEIR POSSESSION AND IT IS THEIR
RESPONSIBILITY IT'S THEIR
RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE ALSO BORNE
WITNESS AT TREATED TRIED TO
SAVE. THE LIVES OF KIDS WHO HAVE
BEEN- UNFORTUNATELY- GOT A HOLD
OF A GUN THE DID NOT HAVE A
SAFETY LOCK ON IT. AND- AND THEY
DIED AS A RESULT. AT SO THE
BLAMING OF THE PARENTS FOR NOT
BEING RESPONSIBLE IS NOT GOING
TO BRING BACK THOSE KIDS. WHAT
WILL IS IN INCENTIVIZING AND
MAKE PEOPLE THINK ABOUT HEY YOU
KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY
GIVING ME JUST THE STATE TAX
BREAK. A SALES TAX BREAK WHICH
ISN'T THAT MUCH BUT- PUT IT INTO
THEIR HEADS HEY MAYBE MAYBE I
SHOULD GO DOWN AND GET. A SAFETY
LOCKING DEVICE NOW THAT I HAVE
KIDS MAYBE I SHOULD GO GET. A
LOCKER FOR MY GUNS AND TAKE THE
TAKE THE INCENTIVE THAT THE
STATE IS OFFERING. SO THAT I
CAN. BE A SAFE AND RESPONSIBLE
GUN OWNER. A LOT OF THE GUNS.
THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE DEALT
WITH WE DID NOT COME FROM PLACES
WHERE PEOPLE HAD THE WEALTH TO
GO OUT AND DO THAT SO EVERY
LITTLE BIT. OF INCENTIVE FOR
FOLKS LIKE THAT. IS HELPFUL. SO
THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM ON THIS
THIS DOES NOT BENEFIT ME IN THE
LEAST. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE
A BIG HIT ON THE SALES TAX
REVENUE FOR THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. I DOUBT VERY MUCH
THAT THEY'LL BE A LOT OF
ACTIVITY. BUT IF IT WAS JUST ONE
ONE PERSON. THAT SAID YOU KNOW
WHAT THERE'S LITTLE TAX BREAK
FOR THIS I'M GONNA GO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH
FOR ME BECAUSE THEN I'D HAVE
ABOUT FIVE LESS DEAD KIDS IN THE
WORLD. SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS
CONCERNS ABOUT THAT- I WOULD
LOVE TO SEE US DO SOMETHING
BESIDES GREAT LAWS THAT PEOPLE
ARE DON'T FOLLOW ANYWAY. BUT
MAYBE CREATE AN INCENTIVE FOR
PEOPLE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE
RESPONSIBLE OR AT LEAST PLANT
THE SEED THEIR HEAD SO THANK YOU
SO MUCH AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WE DO HAVE A MOTION THE
MOTION IS. TO PASS TO.
APPROPRIATIONS THESE CULTURAL.
CENTRES CABALLERO. SEYARTO I.
THEY ARE TÔI BLAKE'S BEER. DALI
DALI I WOULD ALSO. IT I THOUGHT
NO GLAZER. SKINNER WIENER.
WIENER NO TO. BOB THAT BILL
FAILS THANK YOU I APPRECIATE
THAT THANK YOU. CENTER WE CAN
GRANT YOU CAN RECONSIDERATION IF
YOU'D LIKE. THANK YOU OKAY
SOUNDS GOOD WE HAVE ONE FINAL
BILL AND THAT IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER ELEVEN. SB SEVEN OH ONE
WHY DON'T WE LEFT THE CALLS AND
SEE IF- IF EITHER THE FILE SHOWS
UP SO THAT I CAN PRESENT THE
BILL OR SENATOR HURTADO CHAU. SO
WE'LL START WITH FILE ITEM.
ONE WE'LL START WITH FILE ITEM
NUMBER ONE SB FIVE BY A SENATOR
NEW YET. WHEN THE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. THE
ABSENT MEMBERS. SENATORS
CABALLERO. WICKS BEER. RUSSELL
SKINNER. WIENER WIENER NO TO
RECONSIDERATION FOR THE BILL OUT
WE WILL GRANT RECONSIDERATION.
YEAH THAT MEASURE FAILS SO WEAK
RECONSIDERATION IS GRANTED
MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR WE HAVE THREE ITEMS UP
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
MOTION IS ABOUT THE CONSENT
CALENDAR SENATORS BREAKS BEER
SKINNER. WIENER WIENER I. SIX
TWO ZERO. THAT BILL IS OUT AND
WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON CALL FOR
THE ABSENT MEMBERS MOVING ON TO.
FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE. SENATOR
SB FOUR NINETEEN BY SENATOR ROTH
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO APPROPRIATIONS. SENATORS
BREAKS BEER SKINNER WIENER
WIENER I. SIX TWO ZERO THAT BILL
IS OUT AS WELL SIXTIES THEIR OWN
WILL- CATCH THE ABSENT MEMBER.
ONE RETURN FILE ITEM NUMBER FIVE
S. B. FOR SEVENTY ONE BY CENTER
BY THE- MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR SEYARTO. ALL RIGHT THEY
ARE CHAU I LAKE SUPERIOR. WIENER
WIENER I'M SEVEN ZERO. SEVEN
ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT. WE WERE
FINISHED WITH THAT ONE. WE ON
FILE ITEM NUMBER SIX SB SEVEN
THIRTEEN BY SENATOR PER THE-
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE SENATE
FLOOR SENATORS SEYARTO.
LEGSPINNER DOLLY. FIVE ZERO. THE
DRILL IS OUT. OF FILE ITEM
NUMBERS SEVEN- SB SEVEN FIFTY
ONE BY CENTER FOR THE- MOTION IS
TO PASS A CEMENTED TO THE SENATE
FLOOR SENATORS BLAKE'S BEER.
GLAZER. GLAZER I FORTY TWO THAT
BILL IS OUT. WE'RE GOING ON TO
FILE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT- SENATOR
BRADFORD SB FIVE TWELVE. MOTION
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATORS SEYARTO. LAKE SUPERIOR
. ALI GLAZER. WIENER WIENER I'M
FORTY TWO ZERO. I BELIEVE THAT
ON CALL. WITH THE VIOLENT OF
NUMBER NINE SB FIVE THIRTY THREE
BY SENATOR LIMÓN. MOTION IS TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS SENATORS
BLAKE'S BEER WIENER. WIENER I AM
SEVEN ZERO THE BILL IS OUT. FILE
ITEM NUMBER CAN- HI S. B. THAT
MEANS THAT WHEN. WOOD COUNTY.
FILE ITEM NUMBER THIRTEEN SB
EIGHT SEVENTY ONE BY SENATOR
ARCHULETA. MOTION IS TO PASS TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATION
SENATORS BLAKE'S BEER GLAZER.
THIRTEEN FILE ITEM THIRTEEN.
GLAZER AYE SKINNER. WE'LL PUT
THAT ON BACK ON COSTS. FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOURTEEN S. C. A. SIX BY
SENATOR ARCHULETA. WITHOUT HIM.
FILE ITEM NUMBER FIFTEEN S. B.
TWO TWENTY ONE BY SENATOR
SEYARTO. MOTION IS TO PASS A THE
COMEDIAN APPROPRIATIONS SENATORS
BREAKS BEER WIENER WIENER AYE
SEVEN ZERO THAT GOES OUT. RIGHT
MMHM. OKAY SENATOR HURTADO. YOU
ARE OUR FINAL BILL ON FILE ITEM
NUMBER ELEVEN SB SEVEN A ONE.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON SB SEVEN
ZERO ONE- WHICH MAKES NECESSARY
UPDATES TO EXISTING LAW
REGARDING REGISTRATION FEES FOR
WHOLESALERS OF FRUITS AND
VEGETABLES FOR FOOD SAFETY
STANDARDIZATION PROGRAMS.
CALIFORNIA'S DEVILISH IT'S FOR
STANDARDS FOR ALL FRESH FRUITS
VEGETABLES AND NUTS BACK IN
NINETEEN FIFTEEN NON TODAY AS A
STANDARDIZATION PROGRAM TO
ENSURE ONLY QUALITY PRODUCE IS
SOLD TO CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS.
HOWEVER ENSURING THE QUALITY AND
SAFETY STANDARDS OF PRODUCE IN
THE CALIFORNIA MARKET PLACE IS
COMPLEX REQUIRING COLLABORATION
FROM INDIVIDUALS UP AND DOWN THE
SUPPLY CHAIN. IN NINETEEN EIGHTY
THREE A. B. ELEVEN THIRTY ONE
ESTABLISH THE CURRENT
REGISTRATION FEE SYSTEM WHICH
CAPPED AT TWO FIFTY INTRODUCED
TO WHOLESALERS OF FRESH FRUIT
AND VEGETABLES SO BACK COUNTY
AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONERS WOULD
BE ABLE TO CONDUCT INSPECTIONS.
AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS ACT
COMMISSIONS ARE TASKED WITH
ENFORCING- WHOLESOMENESS ABSENCE
OF CONTAMINATION OR DECAY
STANDARD CONTAINERS AND LABELING
AS WELL AS ACCURATE
RESPONSIBILITY STATEMENTS WHICH
HELP TRACE PROUD PRODUCTS BACK
TO ORIGINS IN THE EVENT OF FOOD
BORNE ILLNESS THE INTERCONNECTED
BODY OF OUR FOOD SYSTEM WHICH
WHICH REQUIRES THROWING
CONSISTENT OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE
THE FOOD SAFETY STANDARDS OF
FRUITS AND VEGETABLES CONSUMED
BY CALIFORNIANS. CALIFORNIA
RANKS FIRST IN THE UNITED STATES
FOR AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTION AND
IS THE NATION'S LARGEST FOOD
PRODUCER. DESPITE CALIFORNIA
BEING THE COUNTRY'S TOP
AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT EXPORTER
THE STATE MUST STILL IMPORT
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS. OF FRUITS
AND VEGETABLES EACH AND EVERY
DAY. WE OFTEN ASSUME THAT THE
FRUITS AND THE VEGETABLES WE SEE
AT THE CALIFORNIA AT OUR GROCERY
STORES ARE SAFE AND WE TRUST
THAT WE ARE BUYING HIGH QUALITY
PRODUCE. BUT THAT IS NOT ALWAYS
THE CASE. IN A RECENT EXAMPLE
NPR REPORTED THAT. FROZEN
ORGANIC STRAWBERRIES SOLD AT
POPULAR STORES ACROSS THE US HAD
BEEN RECALLED OVER A POTENTIAL
LINKED TO AN OUTBREAK OF
HEPATITIS A INFECTIONS. THIS
OUTBREAK LED TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE
GETTING SICK AND EVEN
HOSPITALIZED. A COUPLE OF THEM
WHICH TRIGGERED AN INVESTIGATION
BY THE CDC. AT TWO COMPANIES
INCLUDING ONE COMPANY BASED IN
CALIFORNIA THAN ISSUED VOLUNTARY
RECALLS A RESPONSE TO THE
INVESTIGATION. OUT OF AN
ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. THE
INVESTIGATION INDICATED THAT THE
STRAWBERRIES WERE IMPORTED FROM-
FRESH FROM CERTAIN FARMS LOCATED
IN BAJA CALIFORNIA MEXICO IN
TWENTY TWENTY TO. ADD THAT
PRODUCED AND SOLD THOSE DRIVERS
TO MULTIPLE COMPANIES OF FOOD
SAFETY IS A MAJOR PROBLEM THAT
CONTRIBUTES TO THE FOOD
INSECURITY WE HAVE SEEN AND WILL
CONTINUE TO SEE AS THE WORLD
CHANGES AROUND US. AND JUST TO
KINDA. I LIKE THE SIZE OF IT BUT
TRY TO SAY IT I MEAN IT'S JUST A
REALLY SCARY THING COULD LEAD
LEAD TO LIKE LIVER DAMAGE AND-
REALLY COULD BE FATAL IN IN AND
WORST CASE SCENARIOS- IT REALLY.
COULD HAVE A LIFE CHANGING
IMPACT THE TWO INDIVIDUALS. SO
WE NEED TO EMPOWER THOSE WERE
DOING WHAT THEY CAN TO ENSURE
CALIFORNIANS ARE CONSUMING SAFE
AND HIGH QUALITY FRESH FRUITS
AND VEGETABLES. AND SB SEVEN
ZERO ONE EXPENSIVE FORTY TO ANY
INTERESTED COUNTY TO ADOPT A
REGISTRATION FEE PROGRAM.
UPDATES MAXIMUM FEE TO FIVE
HUNDRED DOLLARS TO ASSIST IN
COVERING THE OPERATIONAL COST
ASSOCIATED WITH FRUITS. AND
VEGETABLES. A STANDARDIZATION
INSPECTIONS AND REMOVES THE
REQUIREMENT THAT LIMITED THE
FEES TO ONE THIRD OF THE COST OF
INSPECTIONS CONDUCTED BY THE
COUNTY AGRICULTURAL
COMMISSIONERS. I DO HAVE ONE WIN
IS HERE WITH ME TODAY. ARE ARE
WITNESSES AND WILLIAMS THE
AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONER AT THE
COUNTY OF INTRA. VERY GOOD
WELCOME. THANK YOU SENATOR HER
TITLE- THANK YOU CHAIR FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU
TODAY AND HAVE BOARD MEMBERS-
COMMITTEE MEMBERS THANK YOU- AS
AS- SENATOR HER TADO MENTIONED-
MY NAME IS ED WILLIAMS I'M THE
VENTURA COUNTY AGRICULTURAL
COMMISSIONER AND SEALER OF
WEIGHTS AND MEASURES- I AM
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA AG
COMMISSIONERS. AND SEALERS
ASSOCIATION. AND WE SUPPORT THIS
BILL- WE ARE SPONSORING THIS
BILL AND- WE ASK FOR YOUR-
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AS WELL-
THE AG COMMISSIONER SPEND ABOUT
TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
DOING PRODUCE- STANDARDIZATION
WORK IN VARIOUS FORMS. OF FROM
ORGANIC INTEGRITY- TO DIRECT
MARKETING INTEGRITY- TRUTH IN
LABELING- AS WELL AS FRUIT AND
VEGETABLE STANDARDIZATION WHICH
INVOLVES. MATURITY TESTING FOR
MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT
GETTING SOUR GRAPES- CHECKING
ORANGES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN
AFFECTED BY A FREEZE THAT- THAT
YOU CAN'T TELL FROM THE OUTSIDE
OF THAT THAT FRUIT. AND SO OUR
JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT. THE
PUBLIC IS GETTING A HIGH QUALITY
OF EDIBLE PIECE OF- PRODUCT WHEN
THEY PURCHASE PRODUCE. THIS IS
THE FAIRNESS OF COMPETITION IN
THE MARKETPLACE ISSUE AS WELL
THE CALIFORNIA PRODUCERS- THEY
THEY HAVE A STANDARDIZATION
PROGRAM THEY'RE PAYING AN
ASSESSMENT- FOR INSPECTIONS FOR
PRODUCE FOR PRODUCING AND
PACKING- CALIFORNIA PRODUCTS.
BUT WE ALSO IMPORT A GREAT
NUMBER OF PRODUCTS FROM OTHER
STATES AND OTHER COUNTRIES AND
AS A SENATOR HER TADO IS POINTED
OUT SOMETIMES THOSE COME WITH
SOME ISSUES WITH- EVEN EVEN A-
FOOD BORNE ILLNESS. OR PUBLIC
HEALTH. ONE OF THE MAJOR- BASS
SPECS OF THIS PROGRAM IS
CHECKING THE LABELING ON
PACKAGING OF PACKAGES OF FRESH
FRUITS AND VEGETABLES MAKE SURE
THAT THERE IS A RESPONSIBLE
PARTY IDENTIFIED. SO THAT THAT
CAN FACILITATE- QUICK
TRACEABILITY BACK TO WHO PACKED
THAT PRODUCT IN THE FIRST PLACE
AND SO THAT- CREATES A FOOD
SAFETY ISSUE AND FACILITATES A
FOOD SAFETY- TRACEABILITY ASPECT
TO THIS PROGRAM. SO I WOULD ASK
FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS
PROGRAM. ARE FOR THIS BILL
EXCUSE ME. AND WEEK WE
APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU
HAVE GIVEN US- TODAY FORWARD FOR
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
MANAGER MEMBERS OF MATTHEW CYBER
THAN WE HAVE THE CALIFORNIA
AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONERS SINCE
YOUR DISASSOCIATION GATHERS AND
LENGTHY TESTIMONY HERE JUST
WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT
FOR SPONSORING THIS BILL FOR
THIS LOCAL OPTION FOR COUNTIES
TO JOIN INTO THIS PROGRAM A TO
ENSURE FOOD SAFETY AND FOOD
QUALITY AND- DRIVER THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS THERE
ANYONE ELSE IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. SINGMAN IS
THERE ANYBODY IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. THING
THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE AND ASK IF
THERE'S ANYBODY ON THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE THAT WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER IN SUPPORT
OR IN OPPOSITION AND AT THIS
POINT I WANT TO ASK COMMITTEE
MEMBERS TO PLEASE RETURN BECAUSE
HER. THE TAKE UP OF UP PRETTY
QUICK. THANK YOU MEDICARE IF YOU
ARE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO
SENATE BILL SEVEN ZERO ONE
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO. AND
MANAGER THERE NO PARTICIPANTS
CUED UP FORGET. SOMEONE BRING
YOU BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND
SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS
COMMENTS CONCERNS. OUR MOTION.
SOME OF. SENATE SAID IT'S BEEN
MOVED THE BILL HAS BEEN MOVED.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS. THANK YOU
FOR THIS BILL I THINK THIS IS
REALLY IMPORTANT- AND DATA. AND
OBVIOUSLY A REALLY IMPORTANT
WORK IS DONE- ON BEHALF OF THE
PUBLIC TO ENSURE THE SAFETY SO-
WITH THAT SAID- ALLOW YOU TO
CONCLUDE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AN AYE VOTE. VERY GOOD THIS IS
THE MOTION BY SENATOR WIENER IS
DUE PASSED TO THE SENATE FLOOR.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SENATORS
CABALLERO COMING I SEYARTO. HI
THERE ARE TWO AYE BLAKE'S BEER
DOLLY. TO WRESTLE. RUSSELL I
GLAZER SKINNER WIENER. WIENER I
AM FORTY ZERO ZERO WE'RE GONNA
PUT THAT ON CALL AND PLEASE-
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS TO
ADVISE THEM THAT WE ARE READY TO
TAKE THE FINAL VOTE. THANK YOU
TO ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HER
. THEY WERE JUST ABOUT READY TO
FINISH BUT BEFORE WE- CONCLUDE I
WANT TO MAKE SURE TO THANK THE
MODERATOR FOR- THE HELP TODAY-
STELLAR JOB IN APPRECIATE ALL OF
YOUR ASSISTANCE. AND ALSO WANT
TO THANK. THANK YOU I WANT TO
THANK THE WITNESSES AND THE
OBSERVERS AS WELL I THINK IT
WAS- GOOD TESTIMONY AND IT IT
HELPS. IT HELPS THE COMMITTEE DO
ITS WORK.
AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE WAITING
FOR MEMBERS TO COME BACK TO- TO
ADD ON- WHEN THEY TAKE A MINUTE
TO RECOGNIZE AND TO THINK A
STAFF MEMBER WHO IS WHO WHO IS
GETTING READY TO LEAVE TO GO ON
TO DO BIGGER AND BRIGHTER AND
MORE EXCITING THINGS- JESSICA
YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT ADDITION TO
THE COMMITTEE STAFF AND I WANT
TO RECOGNIZE YOU AND THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS-
YOU'RE EITHER IN A YEAR YOU GIVE
AT. REALLY CONCISE FANTASTIC
ADVICE AND IT'S REALLY HELPFUL
AS A CHAIR SPEAKING AS A CHARITY
BEEN REALLY HELPFUL TO WORK WITH
YOU AND- WANT TO CONGRATULATE
YOU- GOING BACK TO THE FRANCHISE
TAX BOARD EXCELLENT ORGANIZATION
AND I KNOW THAT- WE'RE GOING TO
MISS YOU BUT IT'S ALSO- YOU'RE
GOING TO REALLY GET PLACE SO WE
KNOW WHERE TO WHERE TO FIND YOU
WHEN WE NEED SOME ADVICE THERE
WHEN WE HAVE A QUESTION SO-
CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT- THAT
MOVE AND- AND- HOPE HOPE THAT
IT'S A- REALLY GOOD PLACE FOR
YOU. THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR
YOUR WORK YOUR SERVICE. YEAH
IT'S ALWAYS SAD WHEN PEOPLE
LEAVE YEAH. RIGHT.
WE'RE BACK IN THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNANCE AND FIND
FINANCING BACK IN SESSION AND
WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE
BILL'S ONE LAST TIME TO ADD ON
WE'LL START WITH THEM THE
CONSENT AGENDA- PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL MOTION AND SET UP THE
CONSENT CALENDAR SENATORS PLAY
EXPERIENCE INNER SKINNER I AM
SEVEN ZERO. THAT BILL IS OUT-
MOVING ON FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE
SB FORCE NINETEENTH SENATE
SENATOR ROTH PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATION SENATORS LAKE
SUPERIOR SKINNER RIGHT SKINNER I
AM SEVEN ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT
SEVEN ZERO MOVING ON TO FILE
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SB FIVE
TWELVE. MOTIONS DEPEND AS
AMENDED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR SEYARTO
LAKE SPEAR BALLING GLAZER. FORTY
ZERO. THAT BAIL FAILS- AND WE
WILL GRANT RECONSIDERATION. FILE
IDM. NUMBER. ELEVEN
BERMAN I THINK. YOU ARE YOU
CLOSE TO FULL THIRD GOT OUT ON
THE TO THE TO. THANK YOU I CUT
OUT ARE YOU CLOSE TO ROLE AND
THAT WAS TWO TWO. YEAH OKAY.
LIVING ON FILE ITEM NUMBER
ELEVEN SB SEVEN A ONE BY SENATOR
HER TADO- THE MOTION IS TO PASS
TO THE SENATE FLOOR. SENATORS
SEVERE DOLLY ACER SKINNER.
SKINNER I'M FRED TWO ZERO THE
BILL IS OUT FIVE ZERO. CAN
FINALLY. SENATE FILE ITEM NUMBER
THIRTEEN S. B. EIGHT SEVENTY ONE
SENATOR DO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. SENATORS WICKS
BEER SKINNER. SKINNER I'M SEVEN
ZERO THE BILL IS OUT SEVEN ZERO
. THAT CONCLUDES TODAY TODAY'S
HEARING OF THE SENATE COMMITTEE
ON GOVERNANCE AND FINANCE IF
THERE'S ANYBODY STILL ON THE
LINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO A BILL AND WOULD
LIKE THEIR PUBLIC TESTIMONY
RECORDED PLEASE FEEL FREE TO
CONTACT- THE COMMITTEE THROUGH
THE WEBSITE AND REGISTER YOUR
YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'D BE HAPPY
TO INCLUDE THEM IN THE FILE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
ATTENTION TO DATE WE ARE
ADJOURNED. WITH.