GET MORNING THE SENATE BUDGET
SUB COMMITTEE ON NUMBER FIVE ON
CORRECTIONS PUBLIC SAFETY
JUDICIARY LABOR AND
TRANSPORTATION WILL COME TO
ORDER- GOOD MORNING THE SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
IN PERSON AND VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE OR VISIT FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS. SIX NINE FOUR EIGHT NINE
THREE ZERO WE ARE HOLDING A
COMMITTEE. HEARINGS HERE IN- TEN
TWENTY ONE- ST ASK ALL MEMBERS
OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE- BE PRESENT
IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED SO WE
CAN ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM AND WE
WILL BECOME OKAY OR WE CAN COULD
DO WE COULD SUBSEQUENT OKAY
LET'S LET'S DO THAT CONSULTANT.
DURAZO HERE RAZA HERE. NEWMAN
THEY ARE STILL HERE THIRTY HERE
. OKAY WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THE
QUORUM. OF THIS SUBCOMMITTEE-
NUMBER FIVE TODAY IS DIVIDED
INTO TWO PARTS PART A AND PART
BE PART A WILL COVER
TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. INCLUDING
CALIFORNIA STATE TRANSPORTATION
AGENCY DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION CALIFORNIA
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION
CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL AND
THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES
ARE THERE TWENTY THREE ISSUES ON
TODAY'S AGENDA. WE WILL HAVE A
DISCUSSION THEN PUBLIC COMMENT
AND THEN WE WILL VOTE ON THE
BOAT ONLY ITEMS ONE THROUGH
NINETEENTH. OKAY OKAY WE'RE
GONNA MOVE ON TO- ISSUE TWENTY
TWO THE FIRST ONE I JUST WANT TO
MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON OUR
TRANSPORTATION BUDGET- TRANSIT
INFRASTRUCTURE AND OPERATIONS
ARE A VITAL PIECE OF
CALIFORNIA'S RESPONSE TO THE
CLIMATE CRISIS NOT TO MENTION
FOR OTHER- NEEDS AND ISSUES-
CALIFORNIA VESTED ONE POINT
THREE BILLION DOLLARS. IN NEARLY
NINETEEN THOUSAND CLIMATE
PROJECTS LAST YEAR WE HAVE
APPROVED MORE THAN FIVE BILLION
DOLLARS FOR THE TRANSITION TO
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES INCLUDING
ALMOST THREE BILLION FOR
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING AND
HYDROGEN REFUELLING. AND TWO AND
A HALF BILLION FOR A WIDE RANGE
OF ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE
PROJECTS BUT WHAT ABOUT THE
FAMILIES THAT RELY ON PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION THIS YEAR OUR
INVESTMENTS IN REDUCING
EMISSIONS CAN MAKE A REAL IMPACT
IN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE NOT
DEPENDENT ON CARS. THIS IS WHY
ALL RIGHT I AND OTHERS FOUGHT TO
DOUBLE OUR INVESTMENTS IN
TRANSPORTATION LAST YEAR. IN LOS
ANGELES ALONE THE HOUSEHOLD
INCOME OF 83% OF METRO RIDERS IS
LESS THAN FORTY NINE THOUSAND
DOLLARS WE WILL NOT MITIGATE THE
CLIMATE CRISIS WITH THE DRESSING
HOW THESE FAMILIES. STUDENTS AND
WORKING PEOPLE MOVE. LET'S GET
STARTED NOW WITH. ISSUE TWENTY
TRANSIT OPERATIONS- BEFORE WE
GET STARTED WITH THE
PRESENTATIONS I WANT TO THANK
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BENNETT. WHO
GOT- STARTED THE CONVERSATION IN
THE ASSEMBLY BUDGET SUB
COMMITTEE THREE AND THAT
KNOWLEDGE THAT HE REQUESTED THE
LA PHIL TO LOOK INTO SOME
OPTIONS THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS
IN SUPPORTING TRANSIT AGENCIES.
AND SO WE GET THE BENEFIT FROM
THAT REQUEST BY HEARING FROM THE
L. A. ILL ON THEIR PRELIMINARY
ANALYSIS TODAY SO WITH THAT-
FIRST LET'S HEAR FROM FRANKIE
MANESS. FROM THE ELLY ELLS
OFFICE WHO WILL STAR US OFF. AND
HE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MISTER
MICHAEL PIMENTEL FROM THE
CALIFORNIA TRANSIT ASSOCIATION.
AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON. TO- CAL
YEAH CALIFORNIA STATE
TRANSPORTATION AGENCY UP AGENCY
. OKAY YOU CAN JUST. HOP ON THE
BEACH OKAY. OKAY. THIS ISN'T.
WE'RE HERE.
TO
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS FRANK JIMENEZ
WITH THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S
OFFICE- WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO
PRESENT TODAY ON THE OVERVIEW OF
THE STATE OF TRANSIT IN
CALIFORNIA I'LL BE MAKING MY
REMARKS THROUGH A HANDOUT WHICH
YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED IF
NOT IT SHOULD BE BEING PASSED
FROM BY THE SERGEANTS- FOR THOSE
THAT ARE WATCHING THE HEARING
ONLINE ARM HANDOUT IS AVAILABLE
ON OUR WEBSITE AT LA- THAT CA
THAT GOV IF YOU'D LIKE TO FOLLOW
ALONG- SO TURNING TO PAGE ONE OF
THE HAND OUT- AS I MENTIONED
PREVIOUSLY- THE COMMITTEES
SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THAT WE
PROVIDE BACKGROUND ON TRANSIT IN
CALIFORNIA. DISCUSS OPERATIONAL
FUNDING SHORTFALLS THAT TRANSIT
AGENCIES ARE PROJECTING AND TO
IDENTIFY VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR THE
LEGISLATURE- IN PROVIDING SHORT
TERM FISCAL RELIEF TO TRANSIT
AGENCIES- TURNING TO PAGE TWO-
FOR AN OVERVIEW OF TRANSIT THERE
ARE OVER TWO HUNDRED TRANSIT
AGENCIES THAT OPERATE IN THE
STATE DELIVERING SERVICES TO THE
PUBLIC THROUGH BUSES TRAINS. AND
FERRIES IMPAIR TRANSIT VANS.
THESE SYSTEMS ARE GENERALLY
OWNED BY A LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
SUCH AS CITIES COUNTIES AND
LOCAL TRANSIT AUTHORITIES.
FUNDING FOR TRANSIT COMES FROM
FARE REVENUES BUT AS WELL AS
LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL SOURCES.
I'M IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF
THE TABLE ON THE- FAR RIGHT YOU
CAN SEE THAT. TOTAL FUNDING FOR
TRANSIT IN CALIFORNIA IN TWENTY
NINETEEN WAS TWELVE POINT EIGHT
BILLION DOLLARS- WE USED TWENTY
NINETEEN NUMBERS TO- SHOW CUT
TRANSIT FUNDING UNDER NORMAL
CONDITIONS- DATA NOW YEARS WOULD
HAVE IMPACTS RELATED TO THE
PANDEMIC AND ALSO. SHOW FEDERAL
RELIEF DOLLARS WHICH I'LL GET
INTO LATER- IF YOU LOOK AT THE
FIGURE IN OPERATIONS YOU CAN
SEE- TWO POINT EIGHT BILLION FOR
OPERATIONS AND FOUR POINT SIX
BILLION FOR CAPITAL. A COUPLE
TAKEAWAYS IS THAT LOCAL FUNDING
MAKES UP THE BULK OF TRANSIT
FUNDING IN THE STATE- IF YOU
LOOK AT FAIRS AND FEES FARES AND
FEES MAKE UP ABOUT A QUARTER OF
OPERATIONAL EXPENSES- MUCH OF-
BEARS AND HE'S GOT A CAPITAL.
STATE FUNDING OF MOVEON OF GET
ONTO TO FOR THE NEXT PAGE BUT IF
YOU LOOK AT THE FEDERAL SIDE
MOST OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING THAT
THE STATE RECEIVES THE SUPPORT
TRANSIT- IT GOES TOWARDS CAPITAL
EXPENDITURE THAT HAS
HISTORICALLY BEEN THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IN THIS SPACE.
FEDERAL DOLLARS CAN BE USED FOR
OPERATIONS IN VERY LIMITED
CIRCUMSTANCES SUCH AS FOR MORE
ROLE TRANSIT AGENCIES. I'M
TURNING TO PAGE THREE. SO THE
STATE PROVIDES FUNDING TO
TRANSIT THROUGH- SEVERAL MAJOR
FORMULA AND COMPETITIVE
PROGRAMS- THESE PROGRAMS ARE
LARGELY FUNDED ON AN ONGOING
BASIS FROM FUEL TAXES AND
VEHICLE FEES. AND A SMALLER
PORTION COMING FROM ANNUAL
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION FUND
REVENUES- IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP
OF THE FIGURE ON THE FORMULA
PROGRAM SIDE THE LARGEST PROGRAM
IS THE STATE TRANSIT ASSISTANCE.
WHICH PROVIDES I'M GENERAL
OPERATIONAL AND CAPITAL SUPPORT
FOR TRANSIT AGENCIES. AB IT'S
ESTIMATED TO PROVIDE ABOUT A
BILLION DOLLARS IN THE CURRENT
YEAR. SOME OF THE OTHER FORMULA
PROGRAMS ARE SMALLER IN SCALE ON
A BIT MORE TARGETED AND WHAT
THOSE- ELIGIBLE EXPENSES ARM. ON
THE COMPETITIVE SIDE ISN'T THE
LARGEST PROGRAM IS THAT TRANSIT
INTERCITY RAIL CAPITAL PROGRAM
ALSO KNOWN AS T. R. C. P. THIS-
PROGRAM FUNDS- PROJECTS THAT
REDUCE GHG EMISSIONS ME VEHICLE
MILES TRAVELED AND CONGESTION.
AND IS ESTIMATED TO PROVIDE-
FIVE HUNDRED FORTY MILLION
DOLLARS IN THE CURRENT YEAR- NOT
DISPLAYED IN THE FIGURE- THE
TWENTY TWO TWENTY THREE BUDGET
PACKAGE PROVIDED FOR BILLION
DOLLARS FROM THE GENERAL FUND
THE TEMPORARILY AUGMENT. THE TRC
PM. IT ALSO INCLUDED- BUDGET
AGREEMENTS PROVIDE TWO BILLION
DOLLARS IN BOTH THE BUDGET YEAR
AND BUDGET YEAR PLUS ONE THROUGH
CARE CPM- INSTEAD OF BEING-
FUNDED ON ITS NORMAL COMPETITIVE
BASIS- THIS FOUR BILLION DOLLARS
IN THE OUT YEARS WOULD BE
PROVIDED TO REGIONAL AGENCIES.
ON A FORMULA BASIS ACCORDING TO
POPULATION SO LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS WOULD- DICTATE HOW
THE FUNDING WOULD BE SPENT
WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTIONS BUT
WOULD STILL BE FOR CAPITAL
EXPENDITURES IN ALIGNMENT WITH
THE RCP- TRANSIT CAN ALSO
RECEIVE FUNDING THROUGH OTHER
STATE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS
FOR INSTANCE THE STATE
TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT
PROGRAM AND THE- SOLUTIONS FOR
CONGESTED QUARTERS PROGRAM.
SUPPORT HIGHWAYS LOCAL STREETS
AND ROADS AND TRANSIT. WITH THE
STATE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT
PROGRAM BEING A FORMULA PROGRAM
AND THE SOLUTIONS FOR CONGESTED
QUARTERS PROGRAM BEING A
COMPETITIVE PROGRAM. OUTSIDE OF
THE- TRANSPORTATION SPACE
TRANSIT AGENCIES ARE ALSO
ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE FUNDING FROM
CARDS H. FIT PROGRAM. WHICH
PROVIDES VOUCHERS TO TRANSIT
AGENCIES THE PURCHASE ZERO
EMISSION BUSES. I AM TURNING TO
PAGE FOUR- AS YOU CAN SEE ROOF
RIDERSHIP L. WAS ON A GRADUAL
INCREASE FROM TWENTY TEN TO
TWENTY FOURTEEN AND AFTER THAT-
WAS ON A- ANNUAL DECLINE. AND
FELL SIGNIFICANTLY IN TWENTY
TWENTY DURING THE PANDEMIC.
AMONG COMPARED TO TWENTY
NINETEEN RIDERSHIP WAS 50%
LOWER- WHEN COMPARING TWENTY
TWENTY TO TWENTY NINETEEN.
RIDERSHIP HAS RETURNED SOMEWHAT
BUT IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO WAS
STILL ROUGHLY 40% LOWER THAN
TWENTY NINETEEN LEVELS. TURNING
TO PAGE. FIVE- THE PANDEMIC
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED TRANSIT
AGENCIES- TRANSIT AGENCIES FACE
SIGNIFICANT DECLINES IN FAIR
REVENUES AS RIDERSHIP FELL. AND
DECLINES IN LOCAL AND STATE
FUNDS DEDICATED TO TRANSIT- THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDED
NEARLY SEVENTY BILLION DOLLARS
NATIONWIDE AND OPERATIONAL
RELIEF TO STABILIZE AGENCIES
BUDGETS PREVENT LAYOFFS AND
MAINTAIN SERVICE LEVELS- THIS
FUNDING WAS PROVIDED ON A
FORMULA BASIS AND THE STATE
RECEIVED. NINE POINT EIGHT
BILLION DOLLARS- AS I MENTIONED
PREVIOUSLY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT HAS HISTORICALLY
PROVIDED FUNDING FOR TRANSIT FOR
CAPITAL EXPENDITURES BUT- THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TEAM THIS
OPERATIONAL SUPPORT BEAM
UNNECESSARY TESTS STABILIZE
AGENCIES BUDGETS- DESPITE
RIDERSHIP IN FAVOR OF THE USE
REVENUES NOT FULLY RECOVERING
MANY TRANSIT AGENCIES HAVE BEEN
USING FEDERALLY DOLLARS TO
SUSTAIN THEIR CURRENT
OPERATIONS. SOME INDIVIDUAL
TRANSIT AGENCIES ACROSS THE
STATE ARE PROJECTING OPERATING
FUNDING SHORTFALLS AS THEY BEGIN
TO EXHAUST FEDERALLY FOR DOLLARS
AND IS RIDERSHIP IS PROJECTED TO
REMAIN BELOW PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS
- BOSTON AGENCIES ARE PROJECTING
SHORTFALLS IN THE CURRENT- IN
THE BUDGET YEAR- MOST OF THE
SHORTFALLS WILL OCCUR IN BUDGET
YEAR PLUS ONE. UNLESS THE
STRUCTURAL BUDGET DEFICITS ARE
ADDRESS TRANSIT AGENCIES WILL
LIKELY HAVE TO INSTITUTE SOME
COMBINATION OF FARE INCREASES
AND SERVICE CUTS. I AM TURNING
TO PAGE SIX- AS I MENTIONED
BEFORE THE COMMITTEES REQUESTED
US TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL OPTIONS
IN PROVIDING SHORT TERM RELIEF
TO TRANSIT AGENCIES- WE'VE
IDENTIFIED. FIVE POTENTIAL FUND
SOURCES FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO
CONSIDER IN DEVELOPING A
POTENTIAL RELIEF PACKAGE. THE
PERSON BEING IS PROVIDING
FLEXIBILITY OVER EXISTING AND
PLANNED FUNDS. AS I MENTIONED
EARLIER THE LEGISLATURE- HAD A
BUDGET AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE TWO
BILLION DOLLARS IN BOTH THE
BUDGET YEAR AND BUDGET PLUS ONE
THIRD HERE CP PROGRAM THAT WOULD
BE ALLOCATED ON A FORMULA BASIS-
I'M CURRENTLY THAT PROGRAM IS
LIMITED TOWARDS CAPITAL
EXPENDITURES BUT THE LEGISLATURE
COULD LOOK INTO THIS PROGRAM
AND- OPEN UP THIS FUNDING TO
ALLOW FOR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
THE LEGISLATURE COULD ALSO RE
DIRECT FUNDING FROM
TRANSPORTATION ACCOUNTS IN
EXISTING PROGRAMS TO THE EXTENT
ALLOWABLE UNDER THE CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTION. I'M TRANSPORTATION
ACCOUNTS AND PROGRAMS ARE FUNDED
THROUGH FUEL TAXES AND VEHICLE
FEES. SOME OF THESE CAN BE USED
TO SUPPORT TRANSIT OPERATIONS
WHILE OTHERS ARE ARE LIMITED IN
THAT ASPECT. THE LEGISLATURE
COULD ALSO PROVIDE- FUNDING
THROUGH G. G. R. F. EITHER THE
DISCRETIONARY PORTION OR
REDIRECTING FRIENDS FROM THE-
EXISTING CONTINUOUS- STATUTORY
APPROPRIATION. APPROPRIATED
PROGRAMS. THE LEGISLATURE COULD
ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL GENERAL
FUND WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE
STATE'S CURRENT BUDGET PROBLEMS
COULD BE DONE THROUGH THREE
WAYS- REDIRECTING FUNDING FROM
THE RECENT ONE TIME AND LIMITED
TERM AUGMENTATIONS PROVIDED FROM
THE STATE'S RECENT BUDGET
SURPLUSES- REJECTING AND RE
DIRECTING NEW GENERAL FUND
SPENDING PROPOSED BY THE
GOVERNOR AND HIS JANUARY BUDGET.
ARE RE DIRECT FUNDING FROM
ONGOING ACTIVITIES. THE
LEGISLATURE COULD ALSO RAISE
REVENUES ON A TEMPORARY BASIS
EITHER BY INCREASING STATE FUEL
TAXES VEHICLE FEES OR OTHER-
TAXES OUTSIDE OF THE
TRANSPORTATION SPACE. WE ALSO
IDENTIFIED- TO STATUTORY CHANGES
THAT COULD PROVIDE RELIEF TO
TRANSIT AGENCIES. THE FIRST ONE
BEING CONTINUING PROGRAM
ALLOCATION ADJUSTMENTS AND
SUSPENSION OF- CERTAIN FINANCIAL
PENALTIES THAT WERE. ENACTED
DURING THE PANDEMIC- FOR EXAMPLE
MANY OF THE STATE'S- FORMULA
TRANSIT PROGRAMS ARE ALLOCATED
BASED ON- FAREHAM OPERATING
REVENUES OF TRANSIT AGENCIES
FROM THE PRIOR YEAR THE
LEGISLATURE ENACTED STATUTORY
CHANGES THAT. I MADE THOSE
ALLOCATIONS BASED ON PRE
PANDEMIC NUMBERS- THOSE
EXEMPTIONS AND MEASURES ARE
EXPECTED TO OUR WILL EXPIRE AT
THE END OF THE CURRENT YEAR THE
LEGISLATURE COULD CONTINUE THOSE
- THE LEGISLATURE COULD ALSO
DIRECT CARP TO ADJUST ITS
INNOVATIVE CLEAN TRANSIT
REGULATIONS WHICH- PHASE IN A
REQUIREMENT FOR TRANSIT AGENCIES
TO PURCHASE- ZERO EMISSION
BUSES- THE LEGISLATURE COULD
RECORD TO MAKE THIS SHORT TERM
ADJUSTMENT TO AGENCIES THAT. ARE
FACING OPERATIONAL FUNDING
SHORTFALLS BUT- ULTIMATELY YOU
STILL KEEP TRUE TO THEM-
REGULATIONS- LONG TERM GOALS.
TURNING TO PAGE. SEVEN WE'VE
IDENTIFIED THREE AREAS FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO CONSIDER AS IT.
THINKS ABOUT DEVELOPING-
POTENTIAL RELIEF PACKAGE THE
FIRST ONE IS THE BINDING AND THE
LEGISLATURE'S PRIMARY SHORT TERM
AND LONG TERM GOALS. DEVELOPING
THESE GOALS WILL HELP THE
LEGISLATURE IDENTIFIED TO WHAT
EXTENT IT WANTS TO PROVIDE
RELIEF AND THE STRUCTURE AND
CONDITIONS WHICH GO WITH RELIEF.
THESE GOALS COULD INCLUDE
PROVIDING- TIME FOR TRANSIT
AGENCIES TO DEVELOP A LONG TERM
CHANGES NEEDED. A MITIGATING
EQUITY IMPACTS OF POTENTIAL FARE
INCREASES AND SERVICE REDUCTIONS
OR ENSURING THAT TRANSIT
AGENCIES ARE ABLE TO- HELP THE
STATE MEET CLIMATE GOALS. THE
LEGISLATURE ALSO WANT TO THINK
ABOUT HOW TO STRUCTURE POTENTIAL
RELIEF PACKAGE- THESE FACTORS
INCLUDE TIMING- WHETHER TO
PROVIDE FUNDING IN THE BUDGET
YEAR OR FUTURE YEAR. DURATION
ARE OVER ONE YEAR OVER MULTIPLE
YEARS MAGNITUDE TO ADDRESS THE
FULL STATEWIDE OPERATION
OPERATING FUNDING SHORTFALL. OR
PARTIALLY STRUCTURE THE
LEGISLATURE COULD LOOK AT
PROVIDING DIRECT GRANTS TO
TRANSIT AGENCIES ARE LOANS. AND
THE DISTRIBUTION AND WHETHER IT
SHOULD BE NEED BASED OR FORMULA
BASE. BY THE LEGISLATURE ALSO
WANT TO- THINK ABOUT APPROPRIATE
ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES TO BE
TIED TO A POTENTIAL RELIEF
PACKAGE. SUCH MEASURES COULD
INCLUDE REQUIRING TRANSIT
AGENCIES TO DO ANALYSES OF THEIR
OPERATION IN RIDERSHIP. I
REQUIRE IN INCREASE DATA
REPORTING FROM TRANSIT AGENCIES
NOT JUST THOSE THAT ARE FACING
OPERATIONAL FUNDING SHORTFALLS
BUT TRANSIT AGENCIES BROADLY. OR
INCREASING STATE OVERSIGHT AND
MANAGEMENT IN THE SPACE. THAT
COMPLETES MY COMMENTS HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON WITH.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO MISTER
MICHAEL PIMENTEL THE CALIFORNIA
TRANSIT ASSOCIATION. GOOD
MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TIME MICHAEL
PIMENTEL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE CALIFORNIA TRANSIT
ASSOCIATION. A WE ARE A
NONPROFIT TRADE ORGANIZATION
THAT REPRESENTS HERE IN
SACRAMENTO MORE THAN TWO HUNDRED
TWENTY MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS FROM
ACROSS CALIFORNIA'S TRANSIT
INDUSTRY. OUR MEMBERSHIP
INCLUDES TRANSIT RAIL AND FERRY
AGENCIES NPOS R. T. P. A.'S AS
WELL AS THE MANUFACTURERS AND
SUPPLIERS WHO PROVIDE. GOODS AND
SERVICES TO OUR INDUSTRY. I WANT
TO START BY JUST SHOWING MY
THANKS AND APPRECIATION FOR THE
INVITATION TO JOIN YOU IN THE
LEGISLATURE. TO DISCUSS THE
OPERATIONS FUNDING CHALLENGES
FACED BY CALIFORNIA TRANSIT
AGENCIES IN TO SPEAK TO MORE
SPECIFICALLY HOW WE CAN WORK
TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THEM. ALL
NOTE THAT TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS
MY THIRD SUCH ENGAGEMENT WITH
THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR HAVING
PRESENTED AT A JOINT HEARING OF
THE SENATE TRANSPORTATION
ASSEMBLY TRANSPORTATION
COMMITTEES IN FEBRUARY. INTO THE
ASSEMBLY BUDGET SUB COMMITTEE ON
FOR THREE IN MARCH. NO IN MY
TESTIMONY THIS MORNING I WILL
RESTATE SEVERAL THE CRITICAL
MESSAGES ARE DELIVERED AT THOSE
HEARINGS BUT IT WILL ALSO SPEAK
DIRECTLY TO THE DETAILS OF THE
ASSOCIATION'S NEW BUDGET
REQUEST. THAT REQUEST WAS
DELIVERED TO LEGISLATURE AND
GOVERNOR NEW SOME THIS PAST
TUESDAY APRIL TWENTY FIFTH. IN
PRECEDED THE RELEASE OF THE
SENATE'S BUDGET PLAN WHICH WE
ARE GRATEFUL TO SEE RELEASED
JUST YESTERDAY MORNING. NOW
BEFORE I PROCEED I WANT TO TAKE
A MOMENT TO THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR AND YOUR FELLOW SENATORS
PRECLUDING LANGUAGE IN THAT PLAN
THAT CLEARLY COMMUNICATES THE
SENATE'S COMMITMENT TO WORKING
WITH US. THE ASSEMBLY IN THE
MUSEUM ADMINISTRATION TO ADDRESS
THE OPERATIONS FUNDING NEEDS OF
TRANSIT AGENCIES STATEWIDE. YOUR
CONTINUED INTEREST IN LEADERSHIP
ON THIS ISSUE IS ABSOLUTELY
CRITICAL AS WE SEEK TO ADDRESS
IN CALENDAR YEAR TWENTY TWENTY
THREE. AN ESTIMATED SIX BILLION
DOLLAR FUNDING SHORTFALL. OVER
THE NEXT FIVE FISCAL YEARS.
AGAINST AS YOU KNOW IT DIFFICULT
STATE BUDGET OUTLOOK. NO OR
BUDGET REQUEST LETTER GOES INTO
DETAIL ON THE SHORTFALL. BUT FOR
TODAY'S PURPOSES AND FOR TODAY'S
DISCUSSION ALL HIGHLIGHT A FEW
IMPORTANT FACTS TO HELP
CONTEXTUALIZE THE CHALLENGES
THAT WE FACE. FIRST OF ALL NOTE
THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR
STATEWIDE NEEDS ARISE FROM
AGENCIES IN THE SAN FRANCISCO
BAY AREA. AND SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA WITH THE REMAINING
BALANCE RISING FROM AGENCIES IN
THE CENTRAL VALLEY CENTRAL
COAST. IN BROADER NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA REGION. THAT WOULD BE
EXCLUSIVE OF THE SAN FRANCISCO
BAY AREA. RIGHT STATE THAT
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
TO BE CLEAR. THAT THIS IS NOT AN
ISSUE THAT IS SPECIFIC GOING TO
THE BAY AREA AND THAT GOES
COUNTER TO SOME OF THE EARLY
PRESS REPORTS. AT THAT WE HAD
SEEN ON THIS ISSUE. SECOND I
WANT TO NOTE THAT THE SHORTFALLS
ARE DRIVEN BY A SERIES OF
FACTORS. MANY OF THEM EXTERNAL
INCLUDING ONE LOSS TRANSIT
RIDERSHIP WHICH ITSELF IS A
FUNCTION OF CHANGE COMMUTE
PATTERNS. WRITER SAFETY CONCERNS
AND OUR STATE'S HOUSING
AFFORDABILITY CRISIS WHICH OF
ALL REDUCED FARE REVENUES. TO
INCREASED OPERATIONS COST DRIVEN
BY A TIGHT LABOR MARKET AND
SUPPLY CHAIN SHOCKS.
TERMINATIONS FUEL SUPPLY WHICH
HAVE DRIVEN UP THE COST OF DOING
BUSINESS. AND THEN FINALLY
INCREASED CAPITAL COSTS
RESULTING FROM SUPPLY CHAIN
ISSUES INFLATION. AND ALSO THE
ADOPTION OF MORE EXPENSIVE
CLEANER TRANSIT VEHICLE
TECHNOLOGIES. IT I PRESENT THIS
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT'S
IMPORTANT NO TO DEMONSTRATE WHY
REFORMS OR ACCOUNTABILITY
MEASURES ALONE WILL NOT
THEMSELVES. SOLVE THIS CRISIS.
NO I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FOR
YOU THAT THE SHORTFALLS ARE MOST
ACUTE FOR AGENCIES THAT HAVE
HISTORICALLY RELIED ON CHOICE
RIDERS. AT THE BASE OF THE
RIDERSHIP AND THAT IS TO SAY.
HIGHER INCOME RIDERS WHO HAVE
THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO CHOOSE
ANOTHER MODE OR THAT TODAY HAVE
THE OPTION TO WORK FROM HOME.
THESE AGENCIES ARE TYPICALLY
THOUGH NOT EXCLUSIVELY COMMUTER
BASED SYSTEMS LIKE BART AND
METROLINK WHICH ALSO
HISTORICALLY HAD HIGH FAREBOX
RECOVERY IN THAT PRE PANDEMIC
REVIEW TO SOME OF THE MOST
PRODUCTIVE SERVICES IN
CALIFORNIA. FINALLY WITH REGARD
TO TIMING AND FRANK NOTED THIS
QUITE WELL THE FUNDING
SHORTFALLS REALLY BEGIN FOR
AGENCIES IN FISCAL YEAR TWENTY
THREE TWENTY FOUR. THE INCREASE
OVER TIME AND ARE INVERSELY
RELATED TO THE DATA DEPLETION OF
FEDERAL COVEN NINE NINETEEN
RELIEF FUNDS. SO AS I PRESENT
THIS INFORMATION I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE STATEWIDE
FIGURES IN GENERAL OBSERVATIONS
ABSTRACT WITH THE SHORTFALLS
MEAN IN PRACTICAL MORE TANGIBLE
TERMS. TO PUT IT PLAINLY THE
SHORTFALLS SHORTFALLS MEAN LESS
SERVICE TO THE COMMITTEES ACROSS
JUST ACROSS THE STATE WITH
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACTS. TO OUR
MOST VULNERABLE CALIFORNIANS WHO
TODAY COMPRISE THE BASE OF OUR
RIDERSHIP. LAYOFFS AND HIRING
FREEZES FOR WORK FORCE THAT IS
HEAVILY UNIONIZED THE HAS ROBOT
ROBOTS COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
PROTECTIONS AND THAT IS. A
PATHWAY TO MIDDLE CLASS JOBS.
I'D ALSO MEANS A SLOWDOWN IN
PURCHASE ORDERS FOR BUSES AND
LOCOMOTIVES WHICH DUE TO STATE
POLICIES ARE INCREASINGLY
MANUFACTURED HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
BY UNION WORK FORCE IN FINALLY
IT MEANS THE WHOLESALE OF ROSHEN
OF OUR STATE'S ABILITY TO MEET.
OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS. AND
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE BEEN BOLD IN
CALLING ON THE LEGISLATION THE
ADMINISTRATION PROVIDE MULTI
YEAR TRENDS OPERATIONS FUNDING
IN THE FISCAL YEAR TWENTY THREE
TWENTY FOUR BUDGET. TO ADDRESS
THESE IMMEDIATE SHORTFALLS THE
SPIRE INDUSTRY AND TO SUPPORT
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF AN ARRAY
OF RIDERSHIP RETENTION. AND
GROWTH STRATEGIES. OUR NEAR TERM
STATE REQUEST IS TWO PRONGED
BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT EACH
TRANSIT AGENCY HAS. DIFFERENT
NEEDS BUT ALSO BECAUSE WE KNOW
THAT THE LEGISLATION THE PUBLIC
EXPECT TRANSIT AGENCIES TO ADAPT
TO NEW BUSINESS MODELS. AND TO
OVERCOME FACTORS LIKE SAFETY
THAT ARE PREVENTING CALIFORNIANS
FROM WRITING OR SYSTEMS. AND
SPECIFICALLY WE ARE CALLING ON
LEGISLATURE PROVIDE FIVE POINT
ONE FIVE BILLION DOLLARS FOR
TRANS OPERATIONS. OVER THE NEXT
FIVE YEARS FROM A VARIETY OF
FUNDING SOURCES THAT ALREADY
SUPPORT PUBLIC TRANSIT CAPITAL.
IN OPERATIONS. IN THESE FUNDING
SOURCES INCLUDE. ADDITIONAL
APPROPRIATIONS SALES TAX ON
DIESEL FUEL REVENUE FOR TRANSIT
OPERATIONS WHICH WOULD TOTAL ONE
POINT THREE SIX BILLION DOLLARS
OVER FIVE YEARS. WHICH WOULD NOT
REQUIRE A NEW TAX BILL WOULD
REQUIRE A GENERAL FUND OFFSET.
ALSO CALLING FOR AN ADDITIONAL
APPROPRIATION DISCRETIONARY CAP
AND TRADE REVENUES TOTALING TWO
AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS OVER
FIVE YEARS. CONVERSION OF THREE
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN
TRANSIT CAPITAL FUNDING TO TRANS
OPERATIONS FUNDING IN FISCAL
YEAR TWENTY SIX TWENTY SEVEN.
AND TWENTY SEVEN TWENTY EIGHT
ONLY. A WHICH WOULD HONOR
EXISTING MULTI YEAR FUNDING
COMMITMENTS TO CAPITAL PROJECTS
AND THEN FINALLY. FLEXIBILITY IN
TRANSIT CAPITAL FUNDING TO ALLOW
FOR REGIONS TO FLEX UP TO ONE
BILLION DOLLARS OF THE
PREVIOUSLY APPROPRIATED FOR
BILLION DOLLARS OR TRANSIT
CAPITAL FOR TRANS OPERATIONS IN
ON THIS LAST POINT I WANT TO
NOTE. THAT THAT DOES ASSUME.
THAT THE LEGISLATURE IN THE
ADMINISTRATION COME TO AN
AGREEMENT ON MAINTAINING THAT
FOUR BILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS
PREVIOUSLY APPROPRIATED IN LAST
YEAR'S BUDGET. NOTE THESE A
SUITE OF OPTIONS WERE
UNANIMOUSLY ENDORSED BY A
FIFTEEN MEMBER. A TRANS
OPERATIONS FUNDING SUBCOMMITTEE
THAT WE OVERSAW WHICH INCLUDED
PARTICIPATION FROM AGENCIES
ACROSS THE STATE INCLUDING
AGENCIES OF DIFFERENT SIZES AND
MORAL BALANCE. IN MORE OVER THE
SWEET OF FUNDING SOURCES WAS
DELIBERATELY CRAFTED TO REFLECT
THE MESSAGE WE HAVE HEARD
CONSISTENTLY FROM THE
LEGISLATURE. TO LIMIT TO THE
EXTENT POSSIBLE NEW IMPACTS ON
THE SEATS GENERAL FUND AND TO
SEEK FLEXIBILITY FROM FINDING
THAT ALREADY SUPPORTS PUBLIC
TRANSIT. AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE
REVENUE GENERATED FROM THESE
FUNDING SOURCES WILL ADDRESS THE
MOST IMMEDIATE SHORTFALLS. STAVE
OFF THE SERVICE CUTS AND LAYOFFS
THAT OTHERWISE WOULD MATERIALIZE
AND HELP US REACH OUR NEAR TERM
FISCAL FOOTING. I ALSO WANT TO
SIGNAL IS REFLECTED IN OUR
LETTER THAT WE'VE HEARD YOUR
MESSAGE ON THE IMPORTANCE OF
CONTINGENT PROOF TRANSIT
SERVICE. AND THE WRITER
EXPERIENCE TO INCREASE THE
ATTRACTIVENESS OF PUBLIC TRANSIT
AND TO SET TRANSIT AGENCIES ON A
PATH TO ACHIEVING LONG TERM
OPERATIONAL AND FINANCIAL
SUSTAINABILITY. OR MEMBERS ARE
RESPONDING TO THIS MESSAGE WITH
ITERATIVE UPDATES AND
IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR SERVICES.
AND WE AT THE ASSOCIATION FOR
RESPONDING TO THIS BY SUPPORTING
IMPORTANT LEGISLATION HERE IN
SACRAMENTO INCLUDING. S. B. FOUR
THREE FOUR MEN AB THIRTEEN
SEVENTY SEVEN FRIEDMAN WHICH
WOULD SUPPORT TRANSIT AGENCIES
IN ADDRESSING STREET HARASSMENT
AND HOMELESSNESS ON OUR SYSTEMS.
AND BY COMMITTING TO
PARTICIPATING CONSTRUCTIVELY IN
THE TRANSIT TRANSFORMATION TASK
FORCE PROCESS. OUTLINED IN AB
SEVEN SIX ONE AUTHORED BY OUR TO
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE CHAIRS
LANA GONZALEZ. AND LAURA
FRIEDMAN. ROSS THIS IS TWENTY.
OPERATION LEGISLATIVE AND
REGULATORY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
IMPROVING PUBLIC TRANSIT. HERE
IN CALIFORNIA IT WILL ALSO TAKE
ON REFORMS TRANSIT PERFORMANCE
AND CALLUM ACCOUNTABILITY
MEASURES. LIKE THOSE IN THE
TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT ACT.
FINALLY AS I CLOSE I WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT THAT THE TRANSMITTAL
OF OUR BUDGET REQUEST LETTER
EARLIER THIS WEEK. DOES NOT IN
ANY WAY AND MY ASSOCIATIONS WORK
TO INTERNALLY DEVELOP
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
LEGISLATURE ON THIS ISSUE. WE
UNDERSTAND THAT BOTH HOUSES
INTEND TO ESTABLISH AN
ACCOUNTABILITY FRAMEWORK AROUND
ANY NEW OPERATIONS FUNDING THE
LEGISLATURE PROVIDES WE ARE
LEANING INTO THAT LEGISLATIVE
PRIORITY. AND ARE NOW WORKING TO
DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
CONSIDERATION BY THE LEGISLATURE
FOR SALVAGING ACCOUNTABILITY ON
THE USE OF ANY OPERATIONS. A NEW
OPERATIONS FUNDING AND WE INTEND
TO SUBMIT TO THE LEGISLATURE IN
THE COMING WEEKS AN ADDENDUM TO
OUR BUDGET REQUEST WHICH
INCLUDES THESE RECOMMENDATIONS
WHICH WOULD BALANCE THE
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
OBJECTIVES OF THE LEGISLATURE.
AND THE PUBLIC WITH THE AGENCY'S
IMPERATIVE FOR FUNDING CERTAINTY
AND SO WITH THAT AND AGAIN I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED TODAY.
YEAH THAT WILL HAVE A ROBUST
DISCUSSION I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE
QUESTIONS AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH- THANK
YOU MR PIMENTEL. APPRECIATE
THAT- NOW WE WANT TO MOVE ON TO.
MISTER CHAD EDISON AND MISTER
CARLOS QUANT FROM THE CALIFORNIA
STATE TRANSPORTATION AGENCY.
GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR CARLOS
QUANT- DEPUTY SECRETARY FOR
BUDGET. AND FISCAL POLICY A
CALIFORNIA STATE TRANSPORTATION
AGENCY. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT
THE ADMINISTRATION IS AWARE OF
THE CHALLENGES THAT TRANSIT
OPERATORS ARE FACING WE'VE BEGUN
OUR OUT REACH. TO MAJOR PLANNING
ORGANIZATIONS- STATEWIDE TRANSIT
ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS IN
TRANSIT OPERATORS AND A
SCHEDULED LISTENING SESSIONS. TO
GET INPUT ON THE NEEDS OF THE
TRANSIT OPERATORS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE AND THOSE ARE SCHEDULED
FOR EARLY MAY. IN BOTH SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA AND NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA- SO WE LOOK FORWARD
TO CONTINUING WORKING WITH THE
LEGISLATURE AND STAKEHOLDERS TO
DEVELOP A SOLUTION TO ADDRESS
THIS PROBLEM. GIVE ON IT IN
ADDITION- I CHAD EDISON I'D
CHECK UP THE SECRETARIAL TRANSIT
A CALLOUS TA. AND IN ADDITION
AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE
STATE'S ROLE IN SUPPORTING
TRANSIT AND CONTINUES TO BE SICK
SECOND- CONTINUES TO BE
SIGNIFICANT. INCREASING TRANSIT
RIDERSHIP WITH AN EFFICIENT AND
WELL INTEGRATED RAIL AND TRANSIT
NETWORK HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES
TO BE AN ESSENTIAL STRATEGY OF
THIS ADMINISTRATION. AS GREATER
TRANSIT USE BOTH REDUCES
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND
IMPROVES THE SAFETY OF OUR
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. ON THE
REVENUE STREAMS OF BOTH THE
STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
HAVE. HAVE BEEN WELL WELL
DESIGNED BOTH BY THIS
LEGISLATURE THROUGH SB ONE. AND
IN THE CASE OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT THROUGH THE
BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE OF
FUNDING THAT THEY PUT IN PLACE
IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE. AND WE
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE
ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE FUNDS
THAT ARE INCREASINGLY HEALTHY
YOU CAN ROBUST- THIS YEAR. I'M
AS DIESEL SALES TAX REVENUES
HAVE HAVE- HAVE RISEN
SIGNIFICANTLY AND ARE FUNDING
ABOUT 40% MORE STATE TRANSIT
ASSISTANCE. AND AS THE FEDERAL
FUNDING IS ABOUT 30% HIGHER THAN
I'M 30% HIGHER THAN PRE PANDEMIC
LEVELS. AND THESE ARE BOTH OF
FUNDING SOURCES THEY HAVE SOME
FLEXIBILITY FOR BOTH OPERATIONS
AND CAPITAL AND FEAR THEIR
STRENGTH IS NOT REALLY HELPING
IN SOME OF. THIS- SITUATION- IN
IN ADDITION- WE ARE HAVE CAN TO
PUT OUT OUR CALVET FUNDING
THROUGH THE TRANSIT INTERCITY
RAIL CAPITAL PROGRAM THAT THIS
LEGISLATURE PROVIDED. THROUGH
THE AUGMENTATION LAST YEAR
GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. THE TWO
POINT FIVE BILLION DOLLARS THAT
WENT TO EXISTING PROJECTS- BACK
IN JANUARY SUPPORTED OVER EIGHT
POINT TWO FIVE BILLION DOLLARS
OF FULL FUNDING GRANT AGREEMENT
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
MANY OF THOSE TO BE SIGNED IN
THIS COMING YEAR SO THAT THAT
FUNDING THAT WAS I PROVIDED. IS
HELPING AGENCIES GO OUT AND
SOLIDIFY THEIR CAPITAL PROGRAMS
WE'RE ABLE TO WARD ANOTHER SIX
HUNDRED NINETY MILLION DOLLARS
TO NEW PROJECTS THIS WEEK. AND
THAT MONEY IS HELPING OBTAIN
FEDERAL FUNDING AND SOLIDIFIED
CAPITAL BUDGETS SO THAT THE-
AGENCIES OF OPTIONS ON HOW THEY
SPEND. ON THE REMAINING
RESOURCES. HAVING CERTAINTY
AROUND OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR
SOME AGENCIES IN THIS ISN'T TRUE
OF EVERY SINGLE AGENCY. CAN
PROVIDE MORE OF MORE RESOURCES
FOR OPERATIONS AND SO IN SOME
CASES. THAT CERTAINTY THAT THEY
HAVE- CALTRAIN WAS ONE EXAMPLE
OF THIS- HAVING THAT CERTAINTY
AROUND THEIR CAPITAL FUNDING FOR
THEIR ELECTRIFICATION PROJECT.
WAS IT ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO
MAKE FIRMER COMMITMENTS TO
OPERATING FUNDING. I'M IN THE
NEXT YEAR IN HERE INTO THE J.
PUSHES OFF THE FISCAL CLIFF BUT
DIDN'T ELIMINATED IT'S STILL YOU
KNOW HAS ONE IN THE FUTURE- SO
THAT'S A- IN SPEAK IN TERMS OF
LIKE HOW WE HOW WE WANT TO
SUPPORT TRANSIT AGENCIES
CONTINUING TO. RUN THESE
PROGRAMS WELL AS PART OF WHAT
WE'RE DOING. AND OF COURSE WE'RE
STILL. TALKING TO FOLKS ABOUT
OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THAT
WOULD HELP BOTH THEM BOTH FROM A
STATUTORY REGULATORY FRAMEWORK
AS WELL AS AS WELL AS HOW WE
CAN. HELP YOU FLEXIBLE IN HOW
SOME OF OUR FUNDING IS USED- ON
THE ON THE CATEGORY OF- THE
STATE'S ROLE IN OVERSEEING
TRANSIT I'M A COUPLE OF NOTES
I'D LIKE TO MAKE THEIR- ON THE
TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT ACT
TO LEASE OUT MOST OF THIS. MOST
OF THIS FRAMEWORK. AND THERE ARE
TWO. THEY'RE THEY'RE KIND OF
THREE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT
HAPPEN ON A REGULAR BASIS UNDER
THE TDA. ONE IS AN UNMET TRANSIT
NEEDS ASSESSMENT WHICH IS DONE
LOCALLY. AND IS THAT DONE AND-
BASIS. ON THE SECOND THE FISCAL.
THAT IS DONE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS
DOES NOT COME TO. ANY OF THE
STATE HE TOOK THE STATE
TRANSPORTATION AGENCY. BECAUSE
TO STATE CAN. OFFICE INTO THE
REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING
AGENCIES FOR THEIR REVIEW. AND
THEN THE PERFORMANCE AUDITS THAT
HAVE BEEN DONE HISTORICALLY
EVERY THREE YEARS THERE WAS SOME
WAIVERS ON THESE DURING THE
PANDEMIC- THOSE ARE THE ONLY
AUDIT THAT COME INTO CALTRANS IN
ARE REVIEWED BY CALTRANS. FOR
AND- AND SO- YOU KNOW IN TERMS
OF OUR ROLE HERE- THE PRIMARY
YOU KNOW AGENCY ROLE THAT WE
HAVE I'M ON THE FUNDING ITSELF
IS FOR THE SMALL RURAL. AND
URBAN THE- THE RURAL AND SMALL
URBAN OPERATORS- AND THEN AND
THEN IF WE'RE WE HAVE A DIRECT
TO GRANT MAKING ROLE AND HELP
THEM WITH SOME OF THEIR
ADMINISTRATION. AND THEN AND
THEN ON THE PERFORMANCE AUDIT
SOME CALTRANS THESE THESE ONCE
EVERY THREE YEARS- AS THEY COME
IN. THROUGH THE TDA REQUIREMENTS
. GLAD TO TAKE ANY OTHER. THAT
COME. THANK YOU. OKAY AND WE
HAVE MISTER MOORE. ANY COMMENTS
. JAMES MORE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE IS AN ECHO WHAT MR
CLIENT- HIS COMMENTS THAT WE'RE
AWARE OF THIS REAL ISSUE IN OUR
ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUING
CONVERSATIONS TO HELP RESOLVE.
THE CAN. OKAY- WHEN. OF. CAN
YOU- CAN. SOMEONE FROM CTA- CAN
YOU DESCRIBE. I'M SORRY. THAT I
MISSED- CAN YOU- WHICH TYPES OF
AGENCIES ARE MOST AFFECTED BY
THESE- BUDGET OF PROBLEMS AND
MEANING. THERE'S URBAN THERE'S
RURAL AREAS SUBURBS- IS THE BAY
AREA THEY'RE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
MORE POPULATED LESS POPULATED
BUT STILL. WHO THE RIDERSHIP YOU
KNOW- OF OUR COULD YOU TALK
ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT SURE
THING I THINK WE FIND FROM OUR
SURVEY DATA THAT THE AGENCIES
ARE MOST IMPACTED BY. THESE
FINANCIAL SHORTFALLS ARE
AGENCIES THAT HAVE PRIMARILY
PROVIDED COMMUNITY SERVICE AND
SO THAT WOULD BE THINGS LIKE OUR
SEATS INTERCITY PASSENGER RAIL
SERVICES ARE COMMUTER RAIL
AGENCIES AND THOSE BUS AGENCIES.
THAT HAD A STRONG FOCUS ON
BRINGING A WRITER'S INTO
DOWNTOWN COURSE I INFER THAT
IT'S FAIRLY INTUITIVE- MECHANIC
THERE I JUST RECOGNIZING THAT
MANY FOLKS ARE NOT COMING INTO
DOWNTOWN CENTERS- ANY LONGER
FOR. EMPLOYMENTS ARE WORKING
FROM HOME OR ARE MODIFYING THE
WORK SCHEDULE SO THAT THEY HAVE
A HYBRID MODEL OF COMING INTO
THE OFFICE AND THAT HAS LED TO
THE AND DEPRESSION IN THE
RIDERSHIP AND THEIR ABILITY TO
RECOVER FROM THE PANDEMIC. NOW
BECAUSE OF SYSTEMS HAVE
PRIMARILY SUPPORTED WHAT ARE
WHITE COLOR HIGHER INCOME
EARNERS THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE
TYPICALLY PAYING THEIR FULL FARE
AS A WRITING THE SYSTEMS
OFTENTIMES WERE PARTNERSHIPS
WITH EMPLOYERS. TO SUPPORT THOSE
AGENCIES. ALL THAT HAS BEEN NOW
SCALED BACK AND THOSE AGENCIES
BECAUSE OF THAT MODEL OF HAVING
FOLKS WHO COULD PAY FULL FARES
WERE GENERALLY. MORE DEPENDENT
ON FAREBOX FOR THEIR OPERATIONS
WE WOULD SAY THAT THOSE AGENCIES
HAD A HIGH FAREBOX RECOVERY. AND
SO NOW THAT THOSE WRITERS IN. IS
NO LONGER THERE HI THERE AND SO
THAT'S WHY FOR THOSE AGENCIES IN
PARTICULAR ARE THERE ARE SOME
SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES. HI AND I
WOULD CONTRAST SAT WITH OTHER
AGENCIES THAT HAVE PRIMARILY
PROVIDED SERVICE TO MORE TRANSIT
DEPENDENT POPULATIONS FOLKS THAT
ARE LOWER INCOME OFTENTIMES BLUE
COLLAR WORKERS. WHO HAVE ALWAYS
CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH- RATHER
GO INTO DOWNTOWN CENTERS GO INTO
THEIR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT FOR
WORK. MUCH OF THOSE THOSE JOBS
CANNOT BE BROUGHT INTO A WORK
FROM HOME DYNAMIC AND THOSE
FOLKS HAVE CONTINUE TO RIDE
PUBLIC TRANSIT THROUGHOUT THE
PANDEMIC. AND THE SAME AGENCIES
NOW ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE
REGAINED THE RIDERSHIP AT THE
FASTEST CLIP- YOU CAN LOOK AT
AGENCIES LIKE SAN DIEGO MTS L.
A. METRO THAT HAVE SEEN. PRETTY
STRONG RIDERSHIP RECOVERY
FRAWLEY METRO BELIEVE THE
NUMBERS AND 70% OFF FOR SAN
DIEGO IN THE 90% OF PREPAYMENT
LEVELS FOR AGENCIES THAT ARE
COMMUTER BASE OFTENTIMES WE FIND
RIDERSHIP TO COVER IN THE 4250%
LEVELS. ARE RELATIVES ARE
PREPARED TO MAKE LEVELS. IT'S SO
HOW DOES THAT. IF YOU CONNECTED
WITH WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST
DIRECTION TO GO IN- AS FAR AS
RIDERSHIP IN THESE TRENDS. WHAT
IS WHAT IS THAT. AIM YOU YEAH I
THINK WHAT WE'RE AIMS ASSIST
PORT OF REINVENTION OF OUR
BUSINESS MODEL JUST RECOGNIZING
THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO
REGAIN. OFFICE WORKERS TO OUR
SYSTEMS WE HAVE TO BE THINKING
ABOUT OTHER GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES
AND SO AGENCIES ARE THINKING
THROUGH HOW THEY MIGHT. CHANGE
FOR EXAMPLE THEIR SCHEDULES
BEFORE THEY WOULD HAVE A HEAVY
BALANCE OF THEIR SERVICE
PROVIDED DURING COMMUTE HOURS
STARTED AT THE END OF THE DAY.
THE THINKING TO HOW MIGHT THIS
MOVES THE SERVICES THAT THEY
PROVIDE OVER THE FULL BALANCE OF
THE DAY TO ALLOW FOR THEM TO
PROVIDE SERVICE- THAT IS MUCH
MORE SIMILAR TO HEAR LOCAL BUS
OPERATOR THAT'S RUNNING SERVICE
FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY. THROUGHOUT
THE DAY THAT PROVIDES AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR AGENCIES TO
CAPTURE. EITHER ERRANDS FOR
RECREATIONAL TRAVEL GOING
GROCERY STORE YOU'RE GOING TO
THE PARK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO
RIDE PUBLIC TRANSIT AND WITH
THAT BRING. THOSE WRITERS AND
SHORE UP YOUR YOUR RIDERSHIP
BASE BUT ALSO PROVIDES AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO DO MORE
WORK WITH REGARD TO SUPPORT FOR
STUDENTS FOR EXAMPLE. A LOT OF
AGENCIES ARE LEANING INTO THE
CONVERSATION OF PARTNERSHIPS
WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
SYSTEM WITH UC AND CSU SYSTEMS
AS A WAY OF HAVING A MORE
SUSTAINABLE BASED RIDERSHIP. AND
SO THAT IS. WHAT WE'VE SEEN AS A
DOMINANT TREND FOR INDUSTRY. BUT
OF COURSE ALL THAT THAT
REINVENTION AND THAT THAT'S
MOVING OVER OF THEIR SCHEDULES
AND THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TIME TO
BRING INTO A FACT WE'VE GOT TO
DO THINGS LIKE PUBLIC NOTICE
REQUIREMENTS. THE GENERAL PUBLIC
WE HAVE TAKEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON
MAJOR SERVICE CHANGES THAT WE
ARE PROVIDING WE'VE GOT TO DO.
EQUITY ANALYSES IN THE HIGH
CHANGES TO OUR SERVICE TO MAKE
SURE THAT THERE ARE NO DISPARITY
IMPACTS TO. COMMUNITIES OF
CONCERN. ALL THAT DOES TAKE SOME
ADDITIONAL TIME ALL. THAT WOULD
REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THE
AGENCIES HAVE RUN FOR RIAN. IN
THEN LONG TERM SUSTAINED. AND
HOW DOES THAT IMPACT- WHEN THE
RIDERSHIP THIS DEPENDENT. ON ON
TRANSIT RIGHT TO GET TO WORK TO
DO THE BASICS IN LIFE EIGHT- HOW
DOES THAT. COME INTO PLAY HERE.
EITHER FINANCIALLY. BECAUSE IS
THERE IS THERE A POTENTIAL THERE
IN THAT. GROUP OF PEOPLE FOR
GROWTH MORE GROWTH- SO ANY MORE
THOUGHT YEAH I WOULD SAY
ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE WAYS THAT
AGENCIES APPROACHING THAT IS
THINKING THROUGH. HOW THEY COULD
WITH ADDITIONAL RESOURCES
INCREASE SERVICE LEVELS DECREASE
HEADWAYS SO THAT RATHER THAN
WAITING EVERY THIRTY MINUTES FOR
A BUS YOU MIGHT WITH EVERY TEN
OR FIFTEEN MINUTES- THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SEEN. FROM
A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE AS BEING
A KEY DRIVER OF TRANSIT
RIDERSHIP IF YOU CAN WALK OUT
YOUR DOOR AND KNOW THAT IN THE
NEXT TEN MINUTES A BUS IS GOING
TO BE THERE. YOU'RE MORE
INCLINED TO DO THAT RATHER THAN
SAY CHECKING YOUR PHONE OR
CHECKING THE WEBSITE AND SEEING.
HOW MY GONNA MAKE THE SPONSOR TO
HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER THIRTY
MINUTES OR AN HOUR. SO THERE IS
A GROWTH OPPORTUNITY THERE ARE A
LOT OF IT WILL SUPPORT- THE
ABILITY FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS
TAKE MORE RIGHTS ON PUBLIC
TRANSIT WERE ALSO THE WANTING TO
DRESS AND I MENTION THIS IN MY
COMMENTS. THE SAFETY CONCERNS
THAT WE'VE HEARD A VERY
PROMINENTLY FROM. THE GENERAL
PUBLIC HI THERE ARE- I THINK
THERE IS A MIXTURE OF ONE VERY
REAL SAFETY CONCERNS THAT
COMMUNITIES FACE BUT THEN ALSO
TO PERCEPTIONS OF SAFETY. AND SO
WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS. TO
ENSURE THAT THERE IS- CERTAINLY
LIMITED TO NO HARASSMENT ON OUR
SYSTEMS PRIMARILY FOR WOMEN FOR
PEOPLE OF COLOR FOR THE LGBT Q.
I A COMMUNITIES. BUT THEN ALSO I
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT HAS SERVED AS
A TURN FOR A LOT OF- WRITERS TO
COME BACK TO OUR SERVICES IN THE
INCIDENCE OF HOMELESSNESS ON OUR
SYSTEMS. AND THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT IS AN OUTGROWTH OF COURSE
LARGER SOCIETAL ISSUES. THAT ARE
JUST UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE WE ARE
ONE OF THE FEW- STILL VERY OPEN
PUBLIC SPACES. IS COMING HOME TO
PUBLIC TRANSIT. WE'VE HAD SOME
CHALLENGES IN BEING ABLE TO
ACCESS THE DOLLARS THE STATE HAS
PROVIDED. OVER THESE PAST FEW
YEARS FRANKLY THAT MONEY HAS
NOT. BEEN SOMETHING WE CAN
DIRECTLY ACCESS IS AGENCIES- BUT
THERE IS A MOVEMENT HERE IN
SACRAMENTO TO HELP MODIFY THAT.
AND REQUIRE THAT THERE IS
GREATER PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN
LOCALITIES WHO RECEIVING THOSE
DOLLARS. AND THE TRANSIT
AGENCIES RECOGNIZING. THAT WE'RE
ALL IN THIS TOGETHER WE'VE GOT
TO BE ABLE TO DRAW. THESE ISSUES
IN A CO. AND COURTNEY FAST. AND
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THOSE
IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE
IMPACT ON THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER
LEFT OUR SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN WITH
US. THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC AND
WHO HAVE COME BACK WITH GREATER
FORCE- ON OUR SYSTEMS. IN THIS
AFTERMATH MMHM. THANK YOU THAT
WAS SOME THAT WAS VERY VERY
HELPFUL- ANYTHING ELSE ON THE
FLEXIBILITY. OF THAT TRANSIT
AGENCIES HAVE WITH REGARD TO THE
BUDGET ISSUES. WE SEE ON ON THAT
FRONT ONE OF THE DOMINANT
REQUEST THAT WE HAVE- WITHIN OUR
WITHIN OUR FRAMEWORK. IS THAT
FOCUS ON BEING ABLE FLAX THE
FOUR BILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN THE
BUDGET TOWARD OPERATIONS- I HEAR
RECOGNIZING THAT THE STATE DOES
NOT HAVE LIMITLESS LIMITLESS
RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES. WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY
PROVIDED VERY ROBUST SUPPORT TO
THE TRANSIT AGENCIES IF THERE IS
AN ABILITY FOR US TO FLEX AT AT
A REGIONAL LEVEL AND MAKE
DETERMINATIONS AS TO REGIONAL
PRIORITIES- WE CAN USE WITHIN
THE EXISTING. RESOURCES THAT WE
HAVE SOME OF THOSE MONIES FOR
DRESSING THESE REALLY TRANSIENT
OPERATIONS FUNDING ISSUES. HI I
WANT TO NOTE FOR YOU THAT- THAT
TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY IS NECESSARY
BECAUSE NO FRANKLY WHEN WE LOOK
AT STATE AND FEDERAL SOURCES.
THEY'RE OFTEN VERY KEY
STRUCTURES THAT LIMIT THE USE OF
THOSE DOLLARS TOWARD CAPITAL AND
NOT OPERATIONS NOT THAT SAME
TYPE OF REQUIREMENT APPLIES TO
FOR EXAMPLE. ALL THE FUNDS THAT
AGENCIES ARE GETTING IN THE
URBANIZED AREAS- FROM THE
BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW WE
CAN ONLY USE THAT FOR CAPITAL.
AND SO WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING
ONLINE AT THAT STATE SIDE THAT
ABILITY TO FLEX THE DOLLARS
AGAIN ON A REGIONAL BASIS. BASED
ON REGIONAL PRIORITIES TO
ADDRESS SOME OF OUR NEEDS HI
HERE WERE ALSO- ARTICULATING
VERY CLEARLY IN SOME REGIONS OF
THE STATE. THERE ISN'T A
SIGNIFICANT OPERATIONS FUNDING
CHALLENGE AND IN THAT CASE AS
THE LEGISLATURE ENVISION THOSE
MONIES TO GO TO CAPITAL THEY
WILL GO TO CAPITOL. A BUT WE DO
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
BEING CAUGHT AND SENT TO THE
FINANCIAL CHALLENGES AT THE
STATE ITSELF HAS. A IN THIS
DISCUSSION. GREAT. I'M SCIENCE
CENTER. AND I'VE BEEN. THE
DINNER ALL THE TIME SORRY EVERY
. QUESTION THAT YOU'RE- IS QUICK
THAT. ME HELP ALL US UNDER.
BETTER LOT OF THE- CHALLENGE.
AND I THINK THE NUMBER ONE
CHALLENGES EVERYBODY RECOGNIZES
THAT WE HAVE A WE HAVE A REAL
PROBLEM. AND IT'S BASED ON
SOMETHING THAT SOMETIMES WE
DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE THE
ABILITY TO CONTROL WHICH IS THE
RIDERSHIP ISSUE. AND AND SO
YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT
REINVENTION OF. OF THE SYSTEM
AND- YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IT GOES
BACK TO THINKING ABOUT OKAY IF
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SYSTEM AT ALL
WHAT WOULD BE PUT IN. TO BE ABLE
TO SERVE THE UNDERSERVED. AND
MAKE IT ALL WORK- ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TALKED
ABOUT IS. FINDING OTHER
RIDERSHIP TO REPLACE. THE WELL
PAYING RIDERSHIP THAT HAS LEFT
THE SYSTEM. AND I THINK THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT. FOR THE TRANSIT.
SYSTEM DID IF THEY DON'T TAP
INTO THAT AND THAT'S USUALLY A
TOURISM- TYPE OF EFFORT- WHEN
METROLINK IS BRAND NEW DOWN IN
LA- I USED ACTUALLY ENJOYED YOU
KNOW JUST I DRIVE UP TO THE-
RANCHO CUCAMONGA PORTENT TECH
THAT INTO. DOWNTOWN LA. AND THAT
WAS YOU KNOW THAT WAS IT MADE AN
ENJOYABLE TRIP- IT WAS CLEAN IT
WAS STILL A SAFE WE HAD YOU KNOW
PEOPLE ON THERE THAT. YOU KNOW
POLICE THAT WOULD KEEP IT SAFE.
AND WHAT WE SEEM TO BE LACKING A
LOT OF THAT SO GIVEN THAT THE
RIDERSHIP ISSUE IS PROBABLY THE
NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS- WHAT
ARE WHAT ARE SOME OF THE PLANS-
THAT WE'RE MAKING TO IMPROVE THE
CLEANLINESS ASPECT. AND THEN I'M
GONNA ASK FOR THE OTHER ONES THE
OTHER IMPACTS THAT ARE CREATING
A NEGATIVE PERCEPTION OF TRANSIT
AGENCIES RIGHT NOW. YEAH ON THIS
FRONT WE'VE SEEN A BIT OF A
SCATTERSHOT APPROACH FOR THE
AGENCIES AND IT GENERALLY COMES
DOWN TO. IT WHERE YOU OPERATING
IN WHAT IS THE SEVERITY OF THE
ISSUES THAT YOU'RE FACED WITH.
AND SO THE AGENCIES ARE MOST
FAMILIAR WITH IN TERMS OF
ADDRESSING CLINTON AS SAFETY.
CONSIDERATIONS HAVE BEEN THOSE
IN THE LARGE URBANIZED AREAS
DALY METRO OBVIOUSLY IN LA
BARTON SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA
ALSO MUNY AND SFMTA. AND THE WAY
THAT THEY'RE CHOOSING TO
APPROACH THESE ISSUES- COMES
DOWN TO THINGS LIKE THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF AMBASSADOR
PROGRAMS WHERE THERE ARE MORE
EYES ON THE SYSTEMS. THAT ARE
ABLE TO SPOT AND SERVE AS A
DETERRENT TO CRIME ON THOSE
SYSTEMS ALSO HELP WITH THE
CLEANLINESS OF THIS OF THE
SYSTEMS THEMSELVES. WE'VE ALSO
LOOKED TO PROGRAMS THAT WERE
RECENTLY ESTABLISHED LIKE THE
CLEAN CALIFORNIA PROGRAM. THAT
WAS AUTHORIZED A FEW YEARS BACK.
I TO ALLOW FOR AGENCIES TO TAKE
ACCESS TO NEW DOLLARS FOR THINGS
LIKE LITTER ABATEMENT AFTER-
AFTER STATIONS AT THEIR STOPS.
BY TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER TYPES
OF VISUAL IMPROVEMENTS- THAT CAN
ADDRESS ABOUT THAT THAT- THE
CLEANLINESS CONSIDERATION BUT
THEN ALSO TO. A SAFETY
PERCEPTIONS FOR EXAMPLE LIGHTING
IS A DOMINANT THING THAT WE HEAR
ABOUT IN OUR SURVEY DATA. AROUND
WHY SOMEONE MIGHT NOT TAKE
PUBLIC TRANSIT. AND SO THOSE
PLANS ARE MOVING FORWARD- WE
HAVE SEEN. THE THREE AGENCIES I
JUST DESCRIBED AND WHO ARE ALSO
SOME A LARGE IN THE STATE MOVE
FORWARD WITH THESE THESE PLANS
IN THIS LAST YEAR- AND ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE
LOOKING FOR. IN THIS
CONVERSATION AROUND OPERATIONS
FUNDING IS ENSURING THAT NOT
ONLY ARE WE ACCESSING DOLLARS TO
ADDRESS THOSE SHORTFALLS. BUT
THAT WE ALSO- TAKE A PORTION OF
THOSE DOLLARS AND APPLY THEM
TOWARD A THESE LARGER SAFETY.
OUR SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS THAT
WILL BE NECESSARY FOR US TO GROW
THE RIDERSHIP WE RECOGNIZE THAT
THERE'S AN A RELATION BETWEEN
THOSE TWO. I TO EXTEND THAT WERE
ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES BRING
RIDERS BACK WE CAN HELP TO PRESS
WHAT ARE THE NEEDS FOR THE.
AGENCIES IN THOSE OUT YEARS. SO
I. IT MAY A LITTLE BIT MORE SO.
IS SOMEBODY GOES WHEN WE- A WORD
INVESTING INTO THE SYSTEM
BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN AND
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE
BOTHERING US. AND THEY SHOW UP
AT THEIR THEY DECIDE TO GIVE IT
A TRY. AND THEY GO DOWN THE
TRAIN STATION GET ON AND THEY
SEE TWO PEOPLE ON THAT TRAIN.
THAT ARE ON A ON A THING OF LIKE
FOUR CARS COME IN THOSE PEOPLE
ALL THEY'RE DOING IS KEEPING A
CLEAN. THEY'RE GONNA SAY HEY
THEY ARE SPENDING MONEY ON
KEEPING A CLEAN I FEEL A LOT
BETTER ABOUT THIS. IF THEY SEE A
TRANSIT POLICE THAT CAN ACTUALLY
DO SOMETHING ABOUT. DETERRING
CRIME. AND DETERRING ASSAULTS.
AND BEING ABLE TO STOP THE
HARASSMENT THAT GOES ON. WITH
THE GROUP YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
COOLEY ALSO YOU KNOW I DON'T
LIKE BEING HARASSED EITHER WHEN
I'M DOING A PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION- MADE A MODE OF
TRANSPORT. AND- SO- IS THOSE ARE
THE KIND OF THINGS THAT IF THEY
SEE THOSE THINGS. THEY MAY START
TO LEAK BACK. BUT IF WE TELL
THEM WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN
THESE THINGS AND WE'RE MAKING
SURE IT'S ALL GOT ALL THESE. ALL
THE RIGHT WORDS. BUT THEN THEY
GET ON THE TRAIN IS STILL GOING
ON THERE NEVER EVER GOING TO
COME BACK AGAIN. AND THEY'RE
NEVER GOING TO TAKE IT. TO GO
DOWN TO A VERY STREET IN LA-
FROM FROM WHERE THEY ARE. SO I
THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO DRILL
DOWN ON THAT. AND THE
REINVENTING- IS SOMETHING THAT
YOU GUYS GONNA HAVE TO COME UP
WITH. YOU KNOW HOW DO YOU SERVE
WHO IS LEFT. IN THE MOST.
RELIABLE AND BECAUSE THAT'S THE
OTHER PART OF IT. IS YOU WANT
COMMUTERS COMMUTERS NEED TO BE
RELIABLY AT WORK AT CERTAIN
TIMES- HAVE YOU GUYS DONE ANY.
AVERAGE COMMUTE DISTANCE-
STUDIES FROM YOU KNOW FOR THE
LOT WRITERS THAT ARE LEFT OVER.
YOU KNOW HOW FAR THEY COMMUTING.
AND AND BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO
BE THAT I THINK A BIG THING
THAT. YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE
REINVENTING. HOW WE'RE GONNA DO
SERVICE LINES AT A STATEWIDE
LEVEL IN WITHIN OUR ASSOCIATION
NO BUT THE INDIVIDUAL AGENCIES
AB AND PART OF HOW THIS COMES IN
TWO PLACE. UNDER WHAT WE CALL
COMPREHENSIVE OPERATIONAL
ANALYSES THESE ARE PLANS
AGENCIES CONDUCT. ON A REGULAR
BASIS- TO EVALUATE. THEIR
SERVICE LINES TO EVALUATE. OTHER
RIDERSHIP DEMOGRAPHICS THE EASE
OF ACCESS TO THE SERVICES. AND
THEN TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. TO
REFLECT WHAT MAY BE ADJUSTMENTS
TO HELP FOLKS ARE USING THE
SERVICES WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. AND
WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PANDEMIC OF
MOST OF A LARGE AGENCIES MOVE
FORWARD WITH THOSE TYPES OF
PLANS. TO BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF
WHAT DEMAND LOOKS LIKE NO ONE IN
THE IMPEDIMENTS THOUGH TO THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF IT HAS BEEN
ONE FUNDING AND THEN TO WORK
FORCE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT I DID NOT ADDRESSES THE
REALITY THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY
MAJOR WORK FORCE. A RECRUITMENT
AND RETENTION ISSUE. A FEW
AGENCIES THAT ARE OPERATING
TODAY WITH THE WORK FORCE THAT
THEY HAD PREPAYMENT PANDEMIC.
AND THAT IS ME MEANT THAT EVEN
IF AN AGENCY WANTS TO INCREASE
SERVICE OR WANTS TO PROVIDE.
MORE COVERAGE TO ADDRESS SAFETY
CONSIDERATIONS THEY MAY NOT HAVE
THE WORK FORCE TO DO SO. AND SO
WE ARE THINKING TO HOW WE
APPROACH THAT IS WILD PARTY
COMES THROUGH THINGS LIKE HIRING
INCENTIVES JOBS FAIRS THINGS OF
THAT NATURE. BUT I WOULD JUST
STIPULATE THAT IS LOW HANGING
FRUIT AND WE NEED TO FIND A WAY
TO BUILD OUT A PIPELINE OF
CONSISTENT WORKERS. THAT CAN GO
INTO OUR SYSTEMS THAT TOO IS
GOING TO REQUIRE- THAT WE
ADDRESS ISSUES OF SAFETY NOT
NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO THE
RIDERS BUT TO THE OPERATORS WHO
AT TIMES. FIND THEMSELVES IN THE
CROSSHAIRS OF A PUBLIC THAT IS
AGGRIEVED AND A PUBLIC THAT IS
ANGSTY ABOUT ANY NUMBER OF
ISSUES. AND SO THOSE ARE THE
TYPES OF THINGS THAT THE
AGENCIES HAVE DONE. AND SENATOR
IF THERE ARE MORE MORE SPECIFIC
EXAMPLES I CAN CERTAINLY CHASE
DOWN. A THAT WAS MY MEMBERSHIP
IN PRISON TO YOUR OFFICE YEAH I
APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE- YOU
KNOW WE'RE BASICALLY BEING ASKED
TO INVEST A TREMENDOUS MORE
AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND WHEN WE'RE
INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO
TRANSIT. AND AWAY FROM ROADS
THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA HAVE
CONGESTED ROADS AND NOBODY
WRITING TRANSIT SOME AND IF
THAT'S THE CASE. WE'RE IN A LOT
OF FRUSTRATED PEOPLE OUT THERE.
AND IN SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE NOT THROWING GOOD
MONEY AFTER BAD. AND THAT WHEN
WE ARE INVESTING IN IMPROVING A
PROGRAM MADE A TRANSIT SYSTEM.
THAT IT WILL NOT BE YOU KNOW THE
**** OF JOKES YOU KNOW BASICALLY
AND NOT BE REINFORCED. BY YES
WITH SOMEBODY FINALLY GETS GETS
THE GUMPTION TO GO UP AND GET ON
A TRAIN. OR A TRANSIT. THING
THAT THEY WILL BE MET WITH
EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE AFRAID
OF. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID THAT'S
JUST CAN ERODED EVEN FARTHER AND
THEN YOU'LL NEVER GET. THAT
TOURISM BASE THAT WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO REPLACE PEOPLE WITH.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THE
OTHER PART OF IT'S EVER GOING TO
COME BACK. BECAUSE IF IT DOES
IT'LL COME BACK AT ONE HALF OR
ONE THIRD OF WHAT IT WAS. SO
ANYWAY I APPRECIATE. ALL OF THE-
SINCE FOR. THAT YOU'VE US TO.
AND ALSO THE YOU DO IT'S RATHER.
A YOU UNDER. ALL OF OUR CONCERNS
- THAT WE HAVE EXPRESS BEFORE
AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THE NEW
BY STATE. RIGHT SO. I UNDERSTAND
THAT THERE IS A PASSED DUE I
NEED TO SEARCH- DEPENDING ON.
GONNA TELL ME WHAT YOU TO SHUT
IT IS THERE ANY. CONSIDERATION
OF UPDATING THAT THE SYSTEM. THE
POINT. THE ANSWER IS YES IN THE
RE A- THAT IS OVERSEE. BY THE IT
WAS- WITH THE AUTHORSHIP OF SAN
LIMITED OF LAST YEAR THAT WE
GOING TO BE TO A LOOK AT THE-
SYSTEM IS A WHOLE. FEATURED
PROMINENTLY WITHIN IT I WAS
GONNA BE A FOCUS ON THE TRANSIT
NEEDS BOTH FROM AN OPERATIONS
AND A CAPITAL PERSPECTIVE- AND
AS I UNDERSTAND IT THE BILL IN
ITS INTENT. IS INTENDED TO
ADDRESS VERY SPECIFICALLY WHAT
ARE GOING TO BE IN THE NEEDS OF
THE SYSTEMS OVER THE LONG TERM
SPECIFICALLY TO MEET A CERTAIN-
OBJECTIVES OF THE STATE WHETHER
BE CLIMATE WORK FORCE- OR- AIR
QUALITY AND EQUITY ISSUES. I AND
SO THERE THERE IS A PROCESS THAT
IS UNDER WAY ALL TO SNOW FROM
FROM OUR END WE HAVE NOT YET
RECEIVED THAT THAT INVITATION TO
PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS I
UNDERSTAND IT IS JUST GETTING
UNDER WAY. BUT WE UNDERSTAND I
BELIEVE FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH
THE CALIFORNIA TRANSPORTATION
COMMISSION THAT THAT PROCESS
SHOULD BE STARTING UP IN EARNEST
AND IN SHORT ORDER. AND THEN
YEAH YEAH YOU KNOW WHICH WAS- TO
SOME OF THE THAT YOU ANSWERED IN
RESPONSE SO HERE. IT IT REFER BY
THE BOB. DISCERN THE- WITH THE
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT.
EXPERIENCE TO GO HAVE YOU MIGHT
OF THAT. IN A FEW TO BRING A
PERSON TO FOR MISTER ONCE. YES I
THINK WE'LL- REGARDS REFORM ARE
PROBABLY TWO WAYS WHICH I CAN A-
THIS QUESTION WOULD BE. REFORMS
TO THE SIR. AND THEN ALL REFORM-
TO THE LAWSON REGULAR. AND
OVERSEE PUBLIC AGENCIES. ON THAT
FIRST FRONT ON OPERATIONAL
REFORMS I THINK THE WAY THAT WE
HAVE APPROACH. THIS AS AN
ASSOCIATION IS INDUSTRY. IS
FRANKLY THROUGH LEANING ON ONE
ANOTHER WE ARE A HIGHLY
COLLABORATIVE INDUSTRY. I THAT
DOESN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC TRADE
SECRETS WERE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
SHARE WITH ONE ANOTHER WHAT ARE
BEST PRACTICES. FOR BRINGING
WRITERS BACK IN YOU KNOW FROM
THAT. OF JUST HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU
THE DOMINANT AREAS WHERE THERE
IS POTENTIAL FOR REFORM AND
IMPROVEMENT- RELATE TO- THE
PROVISION OF SERVICE AND ITS AND
ITS FREQUENCY AND ITS
RELIABILITY- THEY'RE ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT
VERY CLEARLY IS A NEED FOR THERE
TO BE MORE TRANSIT PRIVATIZATION
HONORS. CITY STREETS ARE COUNTY
ROADS BUT ALSO ON OUR STATE
HIGHWAY SYSTEM. THE REALITY IS
THAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE
DISINCLINED TO TAKE PUBLIC
TRANSIT IF YOU HOP ON THAT BUS.
HOP ON THAT REAL CAR AND YOU
FIND YOURSELF STUCK IN TRAFFIC
LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. AND SO WE AS
AN INDUSTRY HAVE- ESTABLISH SOME
STATUTORY MECHANISMS TO ALLOW US
TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. A GREATER
FOCUS ON TRANSIT PRIORITIZATION
TO BRING RIDERS INTO OUR
SYSTEMS. WERE ALSO SHARING
INFORMATION WITH THE STATE NOW
THROUGH A PROCESS OVERSEEN BY
CASPIAN AND HAND CALTRANS. HONDA
CAL I. T. P. UMBRELLA THAT SPEAK
SPECIFICALLY TO REAL TIME
INFORMATION. FOLKS WANT TO KNOW
WHEN I CAN HOP ON THAT BUS-
WHEN'S THE NEXT ONE- AND WE ARE
UPDATING OUR INFORMATION. TO
FEED INTO A LARGER DATABASE
THAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU ON APPLE
MAPS ON. A GOOGLE MAPS TO ALLOW
FOR YOU TO HAVE SOME CERTAINTY-
WHEN THAT BUS IS GOING TO
ARRIVE. THE FINAL THING THAT ALL
HIGHLIGHT ON THIS ON THE OP. OF
HI HAS BEEN- THAT WE ARE
INTERESTED VERY MUCH. IN SHARE
BEST. ON THIS- CONSIDERATIONS.
ARE IN HERE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME
BEST PRACTICES THAT HAVE BEEN
ADOPTED BY. MARK AND ELLY METRO
A SPECIFICALLY WITH AN EYE
TOWARD VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES
AND WE HAVE WITHIN OUR
ASSOCIATION PROMOTED EXACTLY
WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN TERMS OF.
SURVEYING OF THE WRITERS IN
TERMS OF ENGAGING DEEPLY WITH
THE COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT
REPRESENT CORE CONSTITUENCIES IN
THE RIDERSHIP. AND ARE PUTTING
THAT OUT AS BEST PRACTICES THAT
CAN BE IMPLEMENTED BY OTHER
AGENCIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF
THESE. LONG TERM TRANSIENT-
CONCERNS. ABOUT FINALLY THOUGH I
DO WANT TO ADDRESS- WHAT IS THAT
SECOND- BAND WHICH IS MORE
GENERALLY YOU REFORM HERE
OPERATIONS TO ACCOUNTABILITY-
IN. HERE THE WAY THAT WE'VE
ORGANIZED THAT WITHIN OUR CITY
SEASONS WE'VE GOT VERY STANDING
VARIOUS STANDING COMMITTEES AND
TASK FORCES. WITH DISTINCT
JURISDICTIONS ZERO EMISSION
ISSUES OPERATIONAL ISSUES
MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND WE SEE
FROM THEM. ON AND ROUGHLY ANNUAL
BASIS RECOMMENDATIONS ON THINGS
WE OUGHT TO BE PURSUING FROM A
LEGISLATIVE REGULATORY OR AN
ADMINISTRATIVE PERSPECTIVE. TO
BREAK PAST WHAT ARE BARRIERS TO
DOING THE THINGS THAT I THE
AGENCIES THEMSELVES WANT TO DO
OR THE PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE
HEARING FROM THE LEGISLATURE AN
ARC CANTOR CONSTITUENCIES. THAT
JUST NEED TO BE BROKEN DOWN AND
BY AND WORK PASSED. AND MUCH OF
THAT CAME TOGETHER FAIRLY
RECENTLY IN THE ROUND TO STASH
FOR RELIEF THAT WE OFFERED AS
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
LEGISLATURE IN TWENTY TWENTY AND
TWENTY TWENTY ONE THAT BECAME
LAW. WE ARE GOING THROUGH
ANOTHER PROCESS OF DOING THAT
SAME TYPE OF WORK MUCH OF IT
WILL WILL FEATURE IN THE
CALLOUSLY LISTENING SESSIONS. TO
BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME FURTHER
RECOMMENDATIONS ON REFORMS THAT
CAN BE PURSUED WITH CONSENSYS
FOCUS FROM THE INDUSTRY.
HOPEFULLY FROM THE STATE TO BE
ABLE TO ADDRESSING THESE
BARRIERS TO BEGINNING RIDERSHIP
AND HAVING. MORE STABLE SYSTEMS
. YEAH I APPRECIATE IT SO TO
YOUR COME WITH. SO YOU ARE YOU
CLEARLY YOU KNOW STATE'S SYSTEMS
ARE FACING. YOU REALLY MANY OF
WHICH- BUT WE ALSO A FISH.
LANDSCAPE THAT. DOESN'T UP WELL
FOR DRESS THOSE. EASY DIRECTORS
ARE. GOING TO CREATE THAT YOU
USE DESCRIBED IN LOOKING JUST
FUNDS BUT THAT WORKS YOU KNOW WE
HEARD FROM. THAT IS SOME OF THE
STATE HIGHWAY. MAY BE LOOKED
TOWARD. THE FOR A READER. TO A
TRANSIT- AND I HAVE TO SAY IT
I'M FULLY ON WITH. ALL THE WORK
THAT HE TO BE DONE BUT IF YOU
KNOW I WANT TO THAT I THINK
THERE'S- I'M ONE OF MANY- WE
HAVE WERE TOO HARD- A- THE-
REMAIN. TRACTOR TRANSFER FOR-
AND I THINK THE WE TO VOTER VIA
B. ONE AND- PRO SIXTY NINTH. AT
STAGE BACK BACK TO THAT
APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU HAVE TO
WOULD YOU KNOW THAT'S KIND OF
THE RED FROM LESS. YEAH TOTALLY
AND THAT AND NOTE AS- A PARTY TO
THIS COMP. ON ADVANCE SB AND-
SUPPORTING THE ONE PROP. SIXTY
WAS MISSED. HAVE TAKEN. A
POSITION WHERE WE ARE PHÐ. AT
THE STATE EXCLUDE. ON OTHER
FUNDING SOURCES THAT ARE
OUTLINED WITHIN OUR LETTER- MUCH
OF THAT IS FOCUSED ON A PULLING
FROM. EXISTING FUNDING SOURCES
THAT SUPPORT TRANSIT CAPITAL
OPERATIONS. WE'VE HEARD I THINK
WELL- THE FEEDBACK FROM THE
LEGISLATURE- TO REFLECT ON ON A
REMARK THAT A CENTER SEYARTO
MADE WE HAVE REALLY TRIED TO
INTERNALIZE YOUR FEEDBACK. AND
OFFERING RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE
WE WANT TO DELIVER A PATH
FORWARD THAT COULD HAVE BROAD
BASED BY IN- IN LEADERS FORWARD.
WITHOUT THERE NEEDING TO BE-
UNNECESSARY TENSION. BETWEEN THE
OPERATORS BETWEEN THE
LEGISLATURE OURSELVES THANK YOU
HI AND THANK YOU MANAGER. ONE
MORE THING YES OF COURSE THAT.
SO KNOW THE LAST THING THAT I
SEE IN THIS UMBRELLA ISSUES. IS
THAT YOU KNOW THE WE ARE THE
LEAD. THE STATE DID MANAGE.
PUSHING VERY VERY ON SOME OF
THESE THAT CHANGE GOALS AND- IN
SOME I SEE ARE A- HEAD AND
DIRECTORS. TO- POLITE TELL US
THAT. EACH YEAR YOUR PUSH AND
HARD THAT WERE COLLAPSING SYSTEM
IN I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT- YOU
KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KNOW THAT.
BUT A YOU DON'T HAVE TO SUGAR
COAT IT YOU CAN JUST SAY YOU
KNOW WHAT THAT'S UNACHIEVABLE
AND IT'S CAUSING A LOT OF DAMAGE
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO. TO
EVENTUALLY GET TO THAT GOAL SO
MAYBE INSTEAD OF FIVE YEARS WE
REPLACE WE TAKE A LITTLE BIT
LONGER AND THAT'LL SAVE US A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND
BE ABLE TO NOT COLLAPSE THE
SYSTEM AND CONTINUE TO SERVE A
LOT OF PEOPLE SO I GET BECAUSE I
SEE A LOT OF SELF INFLICTED
WOUNDS FROM OUR SIDE- AND IF.
YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIMES AND
NOBODY WANTS TO SAY NOBODY WANTS
TO TELL THEIR BOSS THAT HEY.
THIS IS NOT GONNA WORK- IS IN
THE BOX ONCE FIND SOMEBODY ELSE
THE- ANYWAY- BUT HERE WE- NEED
TO THAT. AND IF WE IF WE'RE
PUSHING TOO HARD WE NEED TO KNOW
THAT WE'RE PUSHING TOO HARD IN
THE INTERPRETATION THAT THAT
COMMENTED I DO WANT TO REMARK
THAT WE HAVE OVER THE LAST.
DECADE ESTABLISH A VERY
PRODUCTIVE AND VERY CONSTRUCTIVE
RELATIONSHIP OF THE CALIFORNIA
RESOURCES BOARD. ALL SIGNAL IT
AT THAT TIMES- THIS SPECIFICALLY
WITH REGARDS TO THE EARLY
CONVERSATIONS. ABOUT THE
TRANSITION TO. ZERO EMISSION
BUSES WE WERE AT ODDS AND WE DID
HAVE CONCERNS MAJOR CONCERNS
THAT WE INVOICE. A CARBON TO
LEGISLATURE AT THAT TIME. BUT
WE'RE ABLE TO FIND A MIDDLE PASS
A COMPROMISE. THAT WAS ABLE FOR
WAS ABLE TO. CREATE A SITUATION
WHERE CARP COULD MOVE FORWARD
AGGRESSIVELY. UP WITHOUT
COMPROMISING TRANSIT AGENCIES-
AND JUST TODAY IN FACT- WE WERE
ABLE TO. AGREE TO AND SUPPORT A
SIMILAR MEASURE ON THE REAL SIDE
MOVES FORWARD WITH ZERO EMISSION
TRANSITION. FOR RAIL UP IN A WAY
THAT DOES RESPECT THAT REALITY
THAT WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE
SERVICE. IN THAT SERVICE NEEDS
TO BE ROBUST- BUT I'LL ALSO BE
CANDID IF EVER THERE ISN'T AN
ISSUE ON THOSE FRONTS. I WON'T
BE SHY ABOUT RAISING THEM TO A
LEGISLATURE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT
THE PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE GETTING
PEOPLE ON TO PUBLIC TRANSIT.
ZERO MISSION TRANSITION OF
COURSE AN IMPORTANT THING ABOUT
WE NEED. TO FOCUS ON THAT MODE
SHIFT AS AN INDUSTRY. OKAY I
JUST HAVE A OF MORE- WHAT ARE
THE LOWER. I KNOW THERE'S A
CHARGE BUT WHAT ARE THE- AND OR
FOR FUNDING- THAT AGENCIES HAVE
CONSIDERED. YES THEY'RE VERY FEW
OPTIONS ALL KNOW FIRST ON THE
FEDERAL FRONT OF PRIMARILY
BECAUSE- THE STRUCTURES AROUND-
DOLLARS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL FOR
THE LARGE ORGANIZED AREAS. WERE
LIMITED ONLY TOWARD CAPITAL
ARNELLE ALL REMARKS THAT THE
PRESENCE BUDGET. DOES INCLUDE
SOME LANGUAGE- THAT IT SUGGESTS
THAT CONGRESS SHOULD AUTHORIZE
AGENCIES TO FLEX SOME OF THE
CAPITAL DOLLARS TOWARD
OPERATIONS BUT THAT DOES REQUIRE
CONGRESS TO ACT AND I WILL TO
SIGNAL THAT WITH THE DIVIDED
CONGRESS. AND THE- FACT
FRACTURES NATURE OF THE
CONVERSATIONS THERE MAY BE VERY
DIFFICULT FOR THAT TYPE OF
PROPOSAL ACTUALLY BE MOVED INTO
LAW IT'S A THAT DOES NEUTRALIZE
FOR US THE FEDERAL PATH. ON THE
STATE A RATHER LOCAL PASSED BY
THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS AT THAT
AGENCIES I SHOULD SAY MORE
SPECIFICALLY REGIONS ARE HAVING
AROUND MORE SELF HELP. HI AND
THE DOMINANT- FOCUS HAS BEEN IN
THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA NOTED
THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE REGION'S
STATE BUT THE MOST PRONOUNCED
NEEDS ON THE OPERATIONS OF
FUNDING FRONT- THEY ARE.
PREPARING TO MOVE AUTHORIZING
LEGISLATION UP BEFORE THE
LEGISLATURE NEXT YEAR THAT WOULD
CREATE A PATHWAY FOR THEM TO
PURSUE SELF HELP MEASURE
REGIONAL MEASURE. I IN TWENTY
TWENTY SIX AND SO THERE ARE
CONVERSATIONS ARE TAKING PLACE
ALL ON THAT ON THAT FRONT. ABOUT
IT WHAT I WOULD SIGNAL ON ON
THAT MATTER IS THAT EVEN IF WE
WERE SUCCESSFUL AT- SECURING A
SELF HELP MEASURE- THERE IS
STILL A SOME PROCESS AND SOME
TIME WHEN ASSOCIATED WITH WHEN
THOSE DOLLARS ACTUALLY FLOW TO
THE AGENCIES. AND AS I SIGNALED
FOR A LOT OF THE AGENCIES THAT
NEED IS AS IMMEDIATE AS FISCAL
YEAR TWENTY THREE TWENTY FOUR OR
TWENTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE. WE
STILL WILL NEED SOME FORM OF
STOP GAP FUNDING TO SMOOTH OVER
INTO. THAT TRANSITION TO WHAT
MAY BE SELF HELP- AND ALONG
THOSE LINES. WHAT DO YOU THINK-
TRANSIT- SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO
PROVIDE. FOR THE STATE- FOR THE
STATE OF PRIOR TO RECEIVING. OF
FUNDS SO I WON'T KNOW THAT THIS
IS STILL VERY MUCH AN ACTIVE
CONVERSATION WITHIN OUR CITY
STATIONS MEMBERSHIP INCLUDED TO
SOME FORTHCOMING
RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT ALL ALL
HIGHLIGHT HOW IT IS THAT WE ARE
THINKING ABOUT- THIS PARTICULAR
QUESTION. HI WE ARE THINKING
THROUGH. THE POTENTIAL FOR THERE
TO BE FOR EXAMPLE SOME FRONT END
REQUIREMENTS SOME BACK IN
REQUIREMENTS AND EXPLAIN WHAT
THAT THAT MEANS THE FRONT END
REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE. ALONG THE
LINES OF CONTESTATION FROM THE
INDIVIDUAL AGENCIES THAT SPEAKS
TO SPECIFICALLY THE NEED THAT
THEY HAVE AND THE SUBSTANTIATES
THAT NEED. THAT INFORMATION
COULD GO THROUGH A PUBLIC
PROCESS OF FOR EXAMPLE- IN FRONT
OF A TRANSIT GOVERNING BOARD
WHERE IT IS APPROVED THROUGH
RESOLUTION. AND THAT SERVES AS
THE BASIS OF APPLICATION OR FORM
PRESENTED TO THE STATE- THAT
DEMONSTRATES THE NEED FOR THE
DRAWDOWN OF SOME RELIEF FUNDS.
ON THE BACKEND BUT WE ALSO WANT
TO JUST REFLECT. THAT THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION
AROUND ACCOUNTABILITY OVERSIGHT
MAKING SURE THAT- MORE MONEY
DOESN'T GO AFTER- WHAT COULD BE-
YOU. UNPRODUCTIVE AND USE AND SO
WE ARE THINKING THROUGH CAN
THERE BE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE
AGENCIES AND TAKING RECEIPT OF
THOSE DOLLARS TO SAY. WE ARE
COMMITTING TO. NEW REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS TO SPEAK TO OUR
RECOVERY OF REINVENTION THERE
COULD ALSO BE- PERHAPS SOME SOME
MORE. DIALED IN REQUIREMENTS FOR
EXAMPLE REQUIREMENTS THAT IF YOU
HAVEN'T COMPLETED A CO A
COMPREHENSIVE OPERATIONAL
ANALYSIS. WITHIN THE LAST FEW
YEARS. THE YOU'VE GOT TO GO ONE
AS A AS A NEW OF CAN OUR- TO. SO
THAT'S AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS HOW
WE'RE TALKING INTERNALLY- BUT WE
ARE AGAIN LOOKING TO BRING SOME
RECOMMENDATIONS TO LEGISLATURE
WE DO MAINTAIN STANDING MEETINGS
WITH YOUR STAFF HERE IN THE
BUDGET COMMITTEE. IN THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WILL BE
USING THOSE AS SOUNDING BOARDS.
FOR RECOMMENDATIONS MAKE SURE
THAT WE DELIVER TO YOU HAS
POTENTIAL BUY IN FROM ARE YOU
ALL WHO CAN BE CHARGED MAKING
DECISIONS- BEFORE WE MOVE MOVE
THEM FORWARD. AND IT SEEMS TO ME
JUST THE OTHER IS THE ISSUE
RIDERSHIP- IS KNOWING MORE ABOUT
THE RIDERSHIP- AND- WHAT ARE THE
TRENDS WERE. WERE ARRIVED GOAL.
AND NOT TO TREAT THE IN THE PAST
WAY BUT WHAT COULD BE THE TRANCE
WHAT COULD WE DO I THINK YOU
GAVE EXAMPLES. OF THAT BUT- IT
YOU KNOW. IN L. A. 67% OF THE
WRITERS ARE BETWEEN TWENTY FIVE
AND SIXTY FOUR YEARS OLD WHAT
DOES THAT MEAN I MEAN THEY ARE.
WORKING PEOPLE PROBABLY AND YOU
LOOK AT THEIR- INCOME BUT DOES
IT HAVE TO BE THAT. AND ALSO IF
THEY ARE THE CORE OF THE
RIDERSHIP AND THERE'S ROOM FOR
GROWTH IN THAT RIDERSHIP WHAT
ELSE DO WE NEED TO BE DOING
THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM. LIKE YOU
SAID DESCRIBING THE COMMUTER.
RIDERSHIP THIS SEEMS TO ME THAT
KIND OF INFORMATION SHOULD BE
PROVIDED AS WELL AS PART OF THE
PLAN. IS TO WHAT THE FUTURE IS
GOING TO BE LIKE OTHERWISE WE
JUST. PROVIDING HELP AND RELIEF
AND HELP AND RELIEF ON THE
OTHER- ITEM I WOULD POINT OUT IS
THE KIND OF. WORK FORCE NOT ONLY
TO HIGHER RIGHT NOW WHERE THE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE FUTURE
WORKFORCE. YOU KNOW POLYGON SAY
SOMETHING. RAISES SOME EYEBROWS
BUT- IF MORE BUSES. BECAUSE
THEY'RE FLEXIBLE IF MORE BUSES
IS THE WAY TO GO IN CERTAIN
AREAS FOR WRITERS THEN. YOU KNOW
HOW DOES HOW DOES THAT COMPETE
WITH. THE CAPITAL THAT WE NEED
FOR- IN A LONGER TERM AND
TRAINS. AND THEN UP SO THERE'S
DIFFERENT DIFFERENT WAYS OF
GETTING PROVIDING THE SERVICE
THAT THAT THAT THE WRITERS NEED
BUT- AND THE SUM OF A MIGHT BE
IN. IN CONFLICT A LITTLE BIT OF
A WITH EACH OTHER BUT THEY CAN
ALL PROVIDE ALSO FUTURE JOBS.
AND FUTURE GOOD JOBS THINK ABOUT
THE MANUFACTURING OF THE BUSES
HERE IN CALIFORNIA- OF AND NOT
JUST GETTING THEM FROM ELSEWHERE
THAT COULD BE IT IN ENORMOUS
SOURCE OF JOBS HERE- SO. I JUST
THINK WE NEED TO BOTH LOOK AT
THE INFORMATION GATHER THE
INFORMATION LOOK AT IT AND THINK
OUT OF THE BOX FOR THE FUTURE
SO- JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. FOR
MR OF HE MENACE- CAN YOU-
PICTURE COMBINING SOME OF THE
OPTIONS THAT THE YOU'VE
IDENTIFIED IN COMBINATION OF
OPTIONS THAT PROVIDE- THE
TRANSIT AGENCIES A BRIDGE. UNTIL
RIDERSHIP. IS ADDRESSED. THANK
YOU FOR THE QUESTION THEM ON
PAGE- SIX ARE POOR WE NOTIFIED
OF POTENTIAL FUND OPTIONS THE
FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO CONSIDER
AS IT DID THINGS ABOUT
DEVELOPING A RELIEF PACKAGE-
THESE- FINANCIAL FUND SOURCES DO
NOT HAVE TO BE. THOUGHT OF AS AS
IN A SILO AND THE LEGISLATURE
CAN LOOK AT MULTIPLE FUND
SOURCES IN PROVIDING A TOTAL
RELIEF PACKAGE OVER THE SHORT
TERM- I WILL NOTE THAT IN MANY
CASES THE OPERATIONAL FUNDING
SHORTFALLS AGENCIES ARE FACING
OUR ON GOING SO AS YOU MENTIONED
THAT RIDERSHIP PORTION. IS KEY
YOUR RAISING ADDITIONAL REVENUES
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL SEVEN SURE
THAT WHEN THE LEGISLATURE DOES
PROVIDE BRIDGE FUNDING THAT
THERE IS A BRIDGE TO YOU KNOW
SUSTAINABILITY FOR THESE
AGENCIES. AND HOW IN YOUR
OPINION HOW URGENT IS STATE
ACTION NEEDED- AS I MENTIONED
EARLIER AND ARE REMARKS MOST OF
THE- SHORTFALLS WILL BE
OCCURRING IN BUDGET YEAR PLUS
ONE- THERE COULD BE A RATIONALE
TO PROVIDE SOME FUNDING IN THE
BUDGET YEAR TO PROVIDE.
CERTAINTY TO AGENCIES THAT
FUNDING IS COMING SO THEY DON'T
HAVE TO MAKE THESE CUTS I'M
TODAY SO THEY CAN RELY ON STATE
FUNDS- BUT I WOULD. DEFER TO THE
CTA ON THE EXACT AMOUNTS THAT
THEY'RE PROJECTING STATEWIDE IN
THE BUDGET YEAR BUT YEAR PLUS
ONE. OKAY YOU WANT IT. SO THANKS
. MA'AM SURE WHAT I WOULD KNOW
FOR YOU IS THAT WE ARE
ESTIMATING FOR THIS UPCOMING
FISCAL YEAR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY
THREE TWENTY FOUR ABOUT THREE
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN NEED.
A THAT- INCREASE ISRAELI
SIGNIFICANTLY TO ABOUT ONE
POINT. TWO BILLION DOLLARS IN
MAYBE. THREE HUNDRED MILLION TO
ONE POINT TWO TWO BILLION IN
THAT FISCAL YEAR TWENTY FOUR
TWENTY FIVE. AND THE REASON FOR
THAT IS THE POINT AT WHICH
AGENCIES DEPLETE THE FEDERAL
RELIEF DOLLARS MOST AGENCIES
WILL DEPLETE THAT REALLY FUNDING
IN FISCAL YEAR TWENTY THREE
TWENTY FOUR. WHICH MEANS THAT
COME TWENTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE IS
WHEN THAT FISCAL CLIFF HITS. ALL
RIGHT NOW WHAT WE FIND AND IS AT
THE END THERE IS. IN ESSENCE. A
SUSTAINING OF THAT LEVEL OF NEED
CARRYING US OUT TOWARD FISCAL
YEAR TWENTY SEVEN TWENTY EIGHT.
ODD NOW DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT
NUMBERS BEFORE ME BUT I THAT
SHOULD GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF
REALLY WHAT IS THE IMMEDIATE
NEED A GRANTED IN THIS. UPCOMING
FISCAL YEAR TWENTY THREE TWENTY
FOUR RELATIVELY. MINOR RELATIVE
TO WHAT IS THE NEED OVER THE
LONG TERM- BUT WE DO SEE THAT
MAJOR JUMP. A BECAUSE OF THE END
OF THE REALLY FUNDS. OKAY ALL
RIGHT WELL MAYBE THERE'S OF.
PAYMENT WE NEED TO CONNECT BOTH
IMMEDIATE URGENCY NOW AND ALSO
WHAT WE CAN DO MID TERM AND LONG
TERM. AND I DON'T. THINK WE HAVE
ENOUGH INFORMATION. GATHERED AND
IN FRONT OF US. TO BE ABLE TO DO
THAT WE SORT OF JUST REACTING
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IN A-
BAD WAY. REACTING TO A CRISIS.
AND YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT TO HAVE.
WEEK OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO BE
EXPECTED AND WE'RE GOING TO BE
NEEDED NOT EXPECTED WOULD BE
NEEDED TO PROVIDE A BILLION
DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. AND WE JUST
ARE GONNA. NOT GONNA HAVE THAT.
UNLESS IT'S PART OF A REAL PLAN
RIGHT. IN IN- JUST HIGHLIGHT
THAT ON ON THAT FRONT IN AS
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FIVE
YEAR PACKAGE. WE HAVE REQUESTED
THAT FIVE YEARS SO WE CAN BUILD
THAT TIME TO HAVE THAT MORE.
THROW THAT MORE- ACCOUNTABLE
CONVERSATION ON THAT LONG TERM
NEED- A LOT OF THAT CONVERSATION
IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE AS I'D
HAD ELUDED TO UNDER A PROCESS.
SPECIFIED UNDER EIGHTY SEVEN SIX
ONE COURSE THE LEGISLATION STILL
MOVING THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE
HAS NOT YET BEEN. APPROVED BY
THE LEGISLATURE AND SIGNED TO
LAW BY THE GOVERNOR BUT IT IS
ESTABLISH A FRAMEWORK FOR HAVING
THAT TYPE OF NEEDS BASED
ASSESSMENT. FOR THE SYSTEM AS A
WHOLE- WORKING- COLLABORATIVE
LEE WITH THE INDUSTRY- WITH. THE
UNIONS WITH ULTIMATELY TRANSIT
ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS TO COME
UP WITH THE PLAN FORWARD A THAT
BILL TO US INTO THAT LONG. TERM
PATH OF SUSTAINABILITY. THANK
YOU AND DESCRIBE BACK TO. THE
ELIO- WHAT DO YOU THINK IS KIND
OF A FOR THAT WE RECALL. AND WHO
REVIEW THE INFORMATION AND YOU
KNOW ASSESS. IF IT MEETS THE
CRITERIA- FOR THE FOR TRANSITING
GIN SIS TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS.
YEAH I BELIEVE MR PIMENTEL-
PROVIDE A COUPLE OPTIONS IN WE-
LARGELY FIND THOSE TO BE
REASONABLE HAVING TRANSIT
AGENCIES PROVIDE- FRIEND AND
INFORMATION ON WHAT THEIR
CURRENT NEEDS ARE WHAT ACTIONS
THEY'VE TAKEN WHAT THEIR PLAN IS
TO DO WITH WITH POTENTIAL. FOR
THE FUNDING PROVIDED BY THE
STATE IN ON THE BACK AND HAVING
SOME SORT OF PLAN SENT TO THE
STATE- INDICATING. WHAT THEIR
PATH IS FORD FOR MAINTAINING
FINANCIAL STABILITY ON AN
ONGOING BASIS OUTSIDE OF- SHORT
TERM RELIEF- I THINK THAT IS A
QUESTION THAT THE LEGISLATURE
DOES FACE ON IF THIS INFORMATION
IS PROVIDED- WHO WOULD BE
REVIEWING THESE PLANS CURRENTLY
THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE- A
DEPARTMENT THAT IS AS INVOLVED-
IN TRANSIT OPERATIONS AS I
MISTER ADDISON MENSEN. THERE IS
LIMITED INFORMATION THAT IS SENT
TO CALLAS- CAL STEP AND CALTRANS
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THE
LEGISLATURE WOULD HAVE TO
CONSIDER IS WHO IS THE
APPROPRIATE AGENCY AND THAT
THOSE THAT HAVE THE RESOURCES
AND THE STAFF AND THE EXPERTISE
TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THESE
PLANS. TO INDICATE TO THE
LEGISLATURE THAT THESE PLANS ARE
SUFFICIENT THAT THIS INFORMATION
IS GOOD AND PROVIDES THE STATE-
SOME ASSURANCE THAT. LONG TERM
STABILITY IS ON THE HORIZON. IN
BILL YES. PAT RETAILERS WITH THE
TO ADD THINK ONE OF THE- ISSUES
BEFORE YOU THAT AS AS MY
COLLEAGUE NOTED. THE STATE
HASN'T PLAYED A HUGE ROLE IN
TRANSIT HISTORICALLY IN THE
STATE'S GIVEN MONEY FOR CAPITAL
BUT WE DON'T HAVE KIND OF A
STATE TRANSIT AGENCY THAT DOES A
LOT OF- OF INTENSE OVERSIGHT NOR
ARE WE THE PRIMARY FUNDER AND
SO. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU
AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE
FUTURE OF TRANSIT IS THAT STATE
LOCAL RELATIONSHIP IS THAT
SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CHANGE AND
RETHINK AND DOES THE STATE WANT
TO PLAY A MUCH LARGER. FUNDING
ROLL KIND OF ON AN ONGOING BASIS
OR NOT DO WE WANT TO PLAY A
LARGER OVERSIGHT- DIRECTION.
POLICY GUIDANCE ROLE OR DO WE
STILL WANT IT TO BE. KIND OF
LOCALLY BASED SO. AS YOU'RE
BEING ASKED TO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL FUNDING. POTENTIALLY
FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME I
THINK THAT'S VETS REALLY A KEY
QUESTION FOR YOU TO GRAPPLE WITH
IS WHAT DO WE WANT THE STATE'S
ROLE TO BE. PARTICULARLY IF THE
STATE IS GOING TO BE A BIGGER
FINANCIAL PLAYER DO WE WANT TO
HAVE. THAT KIND OF A LARGER ROLE
IN POLICY DIRECTION AS WELL.
ALSO GIVEN ARE REALLY IMPORTANT
CLIMATE GOALS AS A STATE AND THE
ROLE WERE EXPECTING TRANSIT TO
PLAY BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE
THAT KIND OF STATEWIDE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND GOVERNANCE.
PLAY IN PLACE AT THIS POINT
RIGHT NOW FOR THAT SO I THINK
THAT'S A KEY QUESTION FOR YOU IS
HOW LONG TERM DO YOU WANT THIS
TO BE. WHAT ROLE DO YOU WANT THE
STATE TO DO AND THEN AND THEN
WHAT AGENCY OR ENTITY IS GOING
TO PLAY THAT ROLE. WE DON'T
REALLY AS MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED
HAVE KIND OF AN OBVIOUS. CHOICE
AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW. THIS
YES THANKS ISSUE TO ME. IT INTO
YOU RATES ARE REALLY INTERESTING
. AND I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS THAT
YOU GIVEN COVER SAY. THAT STATE
IS GOING TO SOME ROLE THE
SYSTEM. SHOWS FACED BY. TREES
ACROSS THE OR SO MY QUESTION. IS
ARE THERE. I GOT IT BACK A FEW
LARGE STATE THAT THE DO HAVE A
PLACE. TO STAY. FREE FOR. EITHER
FORCE. TRANSIT THE JUSTICE. I
WILL DEFER TO MICHAEL FROM C.
HOPE. HAS A NASH PICTURE AT MY-
IS THE THERE THAT STATES USED OF
MODELS. I WOULD SAY THAT IT. WE
ARE DON'T HAVE VISIBLE INTO WHAT
THE OTHER STATES HAVE DONE ON ON
THE SPACE- BUT WHAT I WOULD
HIGHLIGHT IS THAT PRIMARILY-
WHEN IT COMES TO TRANS OP
RATIONS- THIS IS SOMETHING IS
SUPPORTED BY. LOCAL MEASURES. IN
RURAL. AREAS WITH FEDERAL
SUPPORT IN THAT THAT IS
DISTINCTION FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN
HIGHLIGHTING WITH REGARD TO THE
URBANIZED AREAS. AND SO THERE
HASN'T BEEN NECESSARILY AS
OUTSIZED ROLE. IN TRANSIT
OPERATIONS IN OTHER STATES. NOW
ALL THAT SAID I HAVE SEEN SOME
RECENT HOUSES THAT'S TALKED
ABOUT. OTHER STATES PLAYING A
LARGER ROLE IN CALIFORNIA BUT
IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME AT THIS STAGE
AND HOW MUCH. OF THAT LARGER
ROLE ALSO INCLUDES OVERSIGHT NOT
SIMPLY A PASS REFINES. INSERT
SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE BACK AND
CERTAINLY I'D PERHAPS PURSUE
WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
ASSOCIATION. I SEE THEY HAVE
ANYTHING OF A SYNTHESIS THAT CAN
BE PROVIDED FOR SOME GUIDANCE.
AGAIN IN BEIJING I THINK IT'S
REALLY. IMPORTANT POINTS I THINK
THAT WOULD BE TRULY INTERESTING
NOT JUST TO THIS COMMITTEE
WOULD. MEET OTHER RELEVANT
POLICY COMMITTEES. THANK YOU AND
I'M NOT JUST CLARIFY I'M NOT I
DON'T WANT IT TO BE TAKEN A
SUGGESTION THAT THE L. A. O. IS
SAYING THAT THE AND THAT THAT'S
NOT. SHOULD PLAY A LARGER ROLE
BUT I THINK IT IS. I JUST WANNA
YOU KNOW REALLY HIGHLIGHT THAT
THIS'S BEEN PRIMARILY LOCALLY
FUNDED AND LOCALLY GOVERNED.
RAPE AND SO AS THE STATE IS
PROVIDING A DETAILED
UNDERSTANDING ARE WE STILL WE'RE
WE'RE AT AN INFLECTION POINT
WHERE. GIVEN THE CHALLENGES
FACED BY LOCAL AGENCIES. THIS
THE STATE ISSUED IN THE ABSENCE
OF ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDS OR
WIN FOR FUNDS THE STATE IS GOING
TO HAVE TO PLAY A ROLE RIGHT TO
SO- I'VE GOT. OB WE ARE NOT WELL
I GUESS DURING THE IS TO- BUT I
DO TO HAPPY. YOUR ALL. A TO GIVE
US MORE INSIGHT. HOW OTHER TO.
ARE LOOKING THIS WILL EITHER WE
PLAY A ROLE. ON ON BASIS. OR WE
JUST GIVE. THE RELIEF TO
IMPROPERLY AND THEN. MOVE AWAY
FROM IT AND- I'M JUST SAYING. I
THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IN MAKING
THAT- MR QUANDER MISSED AT THIS
. AND COMMENTS. THE ACTION TO
WHO SHOULD THE- BE THE NEW A-
AGES TO OVER. THIS I THINK
THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR. HERE
ABOUT THE WAY TO DO THIS. A HOME
IN. THURMOND I BELIEVE AT THAT
FOR. BUT I'M I THINK I THINK
THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF YOU
KNOW POTENTIAL IS COULD PROVIDE
THAT IF IN AND- AND WE SHOULD
HAVE A- OF THE BEST TO DO THAT
GIVEN THE NAY OF THE OF HELP OR
TALK ABOUT PROVIDE. WELL I WOULD
URGE YOU TO HAVE THAT. SO YOU
KNOW WE COULD GET SUPER. INPUT
AS AS RECORD. ALONG BILLS LINES
BECAUSE I THINK AB RIGHT IS
WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS ON
TUESDAY TO MUCH OF A SHORT TERM
BASIS. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE
SERIOUS ABOUT. THIS ONE WE GET
THE INFORMATION WE'RE SERIOUS
ABOUT RESPONDING AND NOT JUST
GIVING A LOT OF MONEY IS
BELIEVE. IT IF THE INFORMATION
SHOWS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WAY
BEYOND THE NEXT TWO THREE YEARS
THEN. WE SHOULD BE THINKING
ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW ZERO YEAH
IT SAYS MY QUICK THOUGHTS ON
THAT THAT SUBJECT IS THE STATE
ABSOLUTELY DOES HAVE A ROLE AND
THAT'S TO ENABLE OF VARIOUS
REGIONS TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND
THEY KNOW THEIR REGIONS TO PASS.
AND SO IDENTIFYING THE TOOLS
INCLUDING THE FINANCIAL
RESOURCES NEEDED- I THINK THAT
IS A STATE ROLE AND- AND AS LONG
AS WE KIND OF STAY IN OUR LANE
AND DON'T TRY TO CREATE A NEW.
BUREAUCRACY TO TRY TO DEAL WITH
THINGS BECAUSE- I I'VE SEEN THE
STATE- OVERSTEPPING THEIR ROLE
IN THOSE THAT RESPECT IT SLOWS
EVERYTHING DOWN AND IT MAKES IT
LESS. MORE CUMBERSOME AND- AND
IT MAKES IT. DECREASES THE
ABILITY OF AGENCIES TO ACTUALLY
GET THEIR JOBS DONE. AND SO- SO
ANYWAY- I THINK IT'S A LITTLE
COMBINATION OF BOTH BUT WE DON'T
WANT TO BECOME A NEW STATE
AGENCY. TODAY I ENEMIGOS. AND I
WILL I WOULD CONCUR THAT- THAT
TARGETED ROLE WOULD BE WHAT
WOULD BE. IF STATE WHERE TO TAKE
ON A DISH RISK. HIM OKAY. THANK
YOU SO MUCH THIS IS. VERY
HELPFUL. AND DATE URGE YOU ALL.
KEEP THIRTY THE POT SO WE COULD-
COME UP WITH. THE BAY. BEST
DIRECTION AND- SHORT TERM LONG
TERM SOLUTIONS THANK YOU THANK
YOU ALL VERY MUCH. OKAY WE'RE
GOING MOVE ON TO ISSUES TWENTY
ONE THROUGH TWENTY THREE. OF
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION- ISSUE TWENTY ONE
IS THE INDIRECT COST RECOVERY SO
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM MR
STEVE KICK FROM CALTRANS. AND
THEN MISTER JIMENEZ. EXISTENCE
MORE FOR THE THREE KEEP. YEAH
AND THEN MISTER MOORE AS WELL.
IT WAS BY THE WAY SPECIALLY
HELPFUL THE ELOISE INFORMATION
IS REALLY HELPFUL THANK YOU.
OKAY MYSTIC. IN THE MORNING
SENATORS STEVEN CHECK WITH WITH
CALTRANS- INTO DESCRIBES YOU A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INDIRECT
COST RATE PROPOSAL. SO THE
INDIRECT COST RATE OR SOMETIMES
CALLED ICRP THAT IS HOW
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES INCLUDING
CALTRANS- ASSIGNED INDIRECT
COSTS THAT ARE NOT ATTRIBUTABLE
TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT- INDIRECT
COSTS OF THOSE KINDS OF COSTS
THAT ARE GENERAL IN NATURE YOU
CAN'T BE PINNED TO A SPECIFIC
PROJECTS LIKE- LIKE EQUIPMENT. A
TRAINING MANAGEMENT SUPERVISION-
AND WE DO THIS FOR TWO REASONS
ONE IS THAT WE CAN ACCURATELY
REPORT ON THE COST OF A PROJECT.
INTO SO THAT WE CAN RECOVER
THESE COSTS FROM OTHER ENTITIES
WHEN WE PERFORM WORK FOR THOSE
ENTITIES AND THAT IS REQUIRED
UNDER STATE POLICY. R. I. C. R.
P. RATE IS CALCULATED BASED ON
FEDERAL REGULATIONS AND IS
SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE STATE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND ALSO
THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY
ADMINISTRATION. ON THE ICRP RATE
ITSELF IS A PERCENTAGE OF DIRECT
LABOR ON A- CAPITAL PROJECT- AND
IT'S APPLIED TO THOSE PAYROLL
COSTS WHEN IT'S BUILT OUT TO
REIMBURSING AGENCIES ARE
REIMBURSING- GOVERNMENTS- OUR
RATE IS BROKEN DOWN INTO TWO
INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS THE FIRST
IS WHAT WE CALL THE FUNCTIONAL
ICRP RATE. THIS RATE THAT
REFLECTS THE INDIRECT COSTS OF-
CALTRANS PROJECT DELIVERY
PROGRAM IN MANAGING THE DELIVERY
OF INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS SO THAT
INCLUDES. AGAIN LIKE GENERAL
EQUIPMENT ISSUES TRAINING OF THE
ENGINEERS TO WORK ON PROJECTS
THEIR MANAGEMENT AND THEIR
SUPERVISION. THE SECOND PIECE OF
THE ICRP RATE IS WHAT WE CALL
THE ADMINISTRATIVE RATE. THAT
INCLUDES- CALTRANS
ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS LIKE
MYSELF- HUMAN RESOURCES-
BUILDING LEASES BUILDING
OPERATIONS- ACCOUNTING
PROCUREMENT. AND ALL THE WAY UP
THOSE KINDS OF ADMINISTRATIVE
COSTS. SO ICRP REIMBURSEMENTS
TAKEN TOGETHER- ARE- CHARGE TO
OUTSIDE ENTITIES ONLY IF TO
DEFRAY THE PORTION OF CALTRANS
ADMINISTRATIVE WORK THAT APPLIES
TO THAT PROJECTS ARE NOT
DISTRIBUTING ALL OF OUR OVERHEAD
JUST THE PORTION THAT APPLIES TO
THAT PROJECT. AGAIN THIS IS PART
OF A FULL COST RECOVERY THAT'S
REQUIRED- BY STATE POLICY UNDER
THE STATE ADMINISTRATIVE MANUAL
. STARTING IN TWO THOUSAND
EIGHTEEN NINETEEN AND SEND
SENDING IN DECEMBER OF TWENTY
TWENTY TWO- STATE STATUTE
LIMITED ARE- ADMINISTRATIVE
OVERHEAD DO 10% WHICH IS ABOUT A
THIRD ROUGHLY OF. OUR
ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD- RATE-
AND THEN APPLIED TO
REIMBURSEMENTS FROM SELF HELP
COUNTIES- THE AMOUNT OF
REIMBURSEMENT SO WE WOULD HAVE
COLLECTED OVER THAT FOUR AND A
HALF YEAR PERIOD- WOULD BE ABOUT
TWENTY POINT SEVEN MILLION
DOLLARS AND WHAT WE DID COLLECT
UNDER THE REDUCED RATE WAS SEVEN
POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS OVER
THIS ONE A HALF YEARS. SO THAT'S
AN IMPACT OF ABOUT THIRTEEN
MILLION DOLLARS TO STATE FUNDS
THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE GONE
TO OUR OWN PROJECTS- OVER THAT
FOUR AND A HALF YEAR PERIOD- AND
WITH THAT ALL AND BE HAPPY TO
TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
MISTER JIMENEZ. I'M JUST LIKE TO
NOTE THAT THIS WASN'T A PROPOSAL
IN THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET SO WE
HAVE NO DIRECT COMMENTS OUR
REPORT AT THIS TIME BUT HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE
COMMITTEE MAY HAVE ON THIS
ISSUE. THANK YOU MISTER MOORE.
JAMES OR DEPARTMENT FINANCES
OCCURRING MISTER JIMENEZ WHO-
THE CAP EX PART IN JANUARY
FIRST- WE HAVE A PROPOSED TO
REINSTATE THE CAP I'M- SO. HAPPY
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY.
OKAY SO EXEMPTS- IT. COUPLE
QUESTIONS- SO WHAT'S THE WHAT'S
THE RATIONALE BEACON ZERO ZERO
IN ON THIS FOR AND IN THE 10%
CAP. ON THE INDIRECT COST RATE
FOR SELF HELP CONTENT YES WHO
TURNED HER STANDING WHEN THAT
CAP WAS PUT INTO PLACE TO USE
THAT PERIOD OF TIME TO GATHER
INFORMATION ON WHAT THE COST WAS
TO THE STATE AND ENABLE THE
LEGISLATURE TO MAKE A DECISION
IN THE FUTURE WHETHER TO
CONTINUE THAT TO. BUY CAT. OKAY
BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN SO THE SIR
WORK CALTRANS PERFORMS FOR OTHER
PARTNERS LIKE HIGH SPEED RAIL-
SOME S. T. I. P. PROJECTS OF THE
DEPARTMENT ONLY CHARGES THE
DIRECTORY YEAH SO COULD YOU
EXPLAIN WHY. YOU WANT TO CHARGE
THE FULL DIRECTORY TO SELF HELP
COUNTIES COMPARED TO THE OTHER
PARTNERS THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION
SO IN ALL THOSE INSTANCES THERE
ARE SPECIFIC STATUTORY
EXCLUSIONS FOR US TO- TO DO
THAT- HIGH SPEED RAIL- HAS A
SPECIFIC STATUTE THAT WE ONLY
REQUIRE I'M SORRY ONLY- SEEK
REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE PROJECT
DIRECT OVERHEAD- THE PAID
PROGRAM AT. WHICH I DON'T KNOW
IF YOU MENTION HAS A SIMILAR
THING FIVE PITS FUNDED BY LOCAL
AGENCIES ARE NOT A SAYS THAT
ADMINISTRATIVE RATE- SO ABSENT A
STATUTE. THAT EXEMPTS US FROM
CHARGING THAT RATE THE STATE
ADMINISTRATIVE MANUAL WHICH IS
THE STATE'S POLICY REQUIRES US
TO ASSESS THE FULL COST RECOVERY
WHICH INCLUDES THE ADMIN RIGHT.
OKAY SEVEN ZERO OR SEND ANYMORE
. GO AHEAD. DISTRIBUTARIES WE'RE
GONNA FROM SOME OF JUST PUT WHAT
PUBLIC COME FOR THIS. PART
OVERCOME IT WILL. I SEE YOU. SHE
WILL GET THEIR- THE RICH CAPS-
WE PART OF A TRAILER BILL COULD
BE USED AS A- YES WAS A- PART OF
THE TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN
NINETEEN BUDGET. AND A SO YOU
KNOW UNIFIED THE THIS IS I GUESS
AT THAT TIME IT WE TO YOUR WAS
NO EXACTLY THE TRUE BECAUSE WERE
MMHM- BUT IN ANY EVENT. LOOKING
BACK THERE WERE US OF SOME KIND
. TO SHELVE ACCOUNT SHOULD.
VALUE MANY FACTORS THAT IS
CORRECT SO END UP IT EITHER
BECAUSE TO THE LOCAL. IN US OR
COST- CAL- IT'S WERE NOTING. I'M
AS I'M TO MY RESPECT COLLEAGUE
MR DONE BACK THERE WILL POINT
OUT THIS IS MONEY HE SAID. LIKE
A CAGED RIGHT NOW WE SHOULD.
THESE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE IN ON
THE STATE SYSTEMS. THE FRONT
THAT ARE CONTROLLED BY THE
AGENTS SO THEY IS A VACANCY.
THERE THAT OUR LEAVE UP TO LET.
PROJECTS ARE BILL I'M SURE YOU
FROM MR DONE MISSED. SO I YOU'RE
LOOKING AT THE DAY BETWEEN THIS
10% TWENTY SEVEN POINT FOUR PER
CAP RIGHT- SO THAT MY THAT'S IN
THERE THAT THE COUNTY DON'T WANT
UP PAYING. IN IN IN PROJECTS YES
THE- SO IT'S ESSENTIAL THEY
DON'T HAVE THAT THEN. THEY HAVE
TO GET THE FROM SOMEWHERE. YES
THE NEW IT'S A DELIVERY ON
CALTRANS DOOR IF WE DO SO FOR
OUR DOOR. WHICH THEN WE HAVE TO
GIVE THE COUCH YEAH EXACTLY
THAT'S KIND OF POINT IS TO NET
SO ZERO IT'S A WE PAID TODAY
FOR. RIGHT. EIGHT RIGHT BUT A
THE LOCAL LEVEL WHEN YOU'RE
SITTING ON. AT ALL BECAUSE I'VE
HAD GREAT SUCCESS WORKING WITH
YOU GUYS EARLY IN THE- TWO
THOUSANDS BUILDING AGAIN DOING
BRIDGES OVER MARIETTA. BUT.
EIGHTY YOU KNOW IT'S KIND OF A
STRUGGLE OF KATE TO GET. LOCAL
PROJECTS DONE. AND IN THE THAT'S
WHY WE HAVE OUR CTC THAT'S WHY
WE DID IT LOCAL TAXING AGENCY-
SO THAT WE CAN- YOU KNOW THAT I
OBVIOUSLY I WAS PART OUR CTC AT
ONE TIME- JUST FOUR YEAR- BUT I
UNDERSTAND THAT SYSTEM VERY WELL
AND I. PAY TAXES TOWARDS IT SO
WE CAN DO ROADS SO. WE I THINK
IT'S BETTER FOR US TO HAVE THE
CONTROL. FRANKLY SO THAT WE CAN
INVEST INTO THE ROAD SYSTEM
BECAUSE OTHERWISE- AND ALSO
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE ESCALATION
OF COSTS FOR THESE THINGS GOES
ON AND ON AND ON. YOU KNOW WE
HAVE A TWENTY SEVEN BILLION
DOLLAR PROJECT THAT TURNED INTO
FORTY SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS
PROJECT WAS GOING THROUGH THE
PROCESS. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE
SOMEWHERE WE HAVE TO STOP THE
BLEEDING THAT BLEEDING HAS TO BE
STOPPED BY. THE STATE. IN MY
OPINION. AND I HOPE. SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUES SOMEDAY JOIN ME ON
THAT OPINION BUT- SO IT'S GOING
TO IT'S ALL A SHELL GAME TO ME
AND I'D RATHER HAVE. PEOPLE
LOCAL. STEERING THOSE DOLLARS
INTO THE MOST EFFECTIVE PLACE TO
SCARE HIM AND I THINK THAT'S
FROM A LOCAL LEVEL SO. ANYWAY
YEAH AND I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE
PRETTY WELL NOW AND I APPRECIATE
YOU GUYS HELPING. US UNDERSTAND
CERTAIN. OKAY NUMBER. OKAY YOU
VERY MUCH THAT- WILL NOW MOVE TO
ISSUE TO TWO. VALUE MISTER K.
THANK YOU AGAIN STEVEN CHECK
WITH WITH CALTRANS- THE BEST
VALUE PROCUREMENT IS- SEPARATE
AND DISTINCT FROM THE
CONVENTIONAL LOW BID PROCUREMENT
THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY BE
TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT THESE
CONTRACTS ARE AWARDED- BASED ON
OBJECTIVE CRITERIA THERE IS SET
UP BEFORE THE- ADVERTISING THE
CONTRACT INCLUDES. THE PRICE
FEATURES FUNCTION AND LIFE CYCLE
COSTS OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT IN THIS
CASE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
SPECIFICALLY HAVE EQUIPMENT- IN
TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN ASSEMBLY
BILL EIGHTEEN FIFTY SEVEN
ALLOWED CALTRANS TO PILOT A BEST
VALUE PROCUREMENT PROGRAM WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL
SERVICES- THAT PILOT EXTENDED
THROUGH DECEMBER OF TWENTY
TWENTY ONE. DURING THAT TIME WE
WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE- THROUGH
FIFTY PURCHASE ORDERS- SEVENTY
ALMOST SEVENTY FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT
THROUGH THIS BEST VALUE- A
PROCUREMENT METHOD- AS PART OF
THAT PILOT WE- IN CONJUNCTION
WITH DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL
SERVICES- WERE REQUIRED TO
SUBMIT A REPORT AND A
RECOMMENDATION OF WHETHER THEY
SHOULD BE MADE PERMANENT- WE
FELT THERE WAS VERY GREAT VALUE
IN THIS TYPE OF PROCUREMENT AND
WE RECOMMEND IT BE CONTINUED-
THANKFULLY AND- THANK ALL OF YOU
IT WAS- AS PART OF THE TWENTY
TWENTY TO BUDGET ACT. A TRAILER
BILL AB. ONE FIFTY SEVEN
INCLUDED THIS PERMANENTLY. SO AS
WE MOVE FORWARD- IS THE LANGUAGE
IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD
IN THE PRIOR- PILOT SO WE'RE
ALREADY MOVING QUICKLY WITH
DEPARTMENT GENTLE SERVICES TO
IMPLEMENT THIS- AS AN EXAMPLE-
IN THE CURRENT YEAR THE BEST
VALUE- PROCUREMENT WAS ALREADY
USED TO PURCHASE. A IS EIGHTEEN
MOTOR GRADERS WHICH ARE VERY
SPECIALIZED PIECE OF HEAVY
EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE. AND THAT
WAS BASED ON NOT ONLY THE PRICE
BUT THE COST OF THE EXTENDED
WARRANTIES THE LONG TERM COSTS
OF MAINTAINING THIS EQUIPMENT-
HOW ACCESSIBLE THE- THE- REPAIR
SHOPS WORD TO- WHERE WILL YOU BE
USING THIS EQUIPMENT. AND ALL
KIND OF PART OF THE YOU KNOW IS
IT REALLY GOOD VALUE NOT JUST
WHAT IT COST US- SO AS WE MOVE
FORWARD WE LOOK FORWARD TO.
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH
DIGESTION UTILIZING THIS TOOL IN
FUTURE YEARS. OKAY THAT'S GREAT
MISTER PAUL. I WOULD JUST NOTE
HAS HINTED IN THE TITLE DOES ADD
VALUE AND COST SAVINGS. THANK
YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT- SO
WITH THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE
MISTER KICK- THAT YOU BOUGHT
THESE EIGHTEEN MOTOR GRADERS-
THE GIVES ME AN IDEA THAT YOU'RE
ALREADY USING- THE BEST VALUE
AND YOUR- FUTURE. MORE
PROCUREMENTS- ABSOLUTELY- THIS
IS EXCELLENT FOR THIS TYPE OF
SPECIALIZED HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
MOTOR GRADERS ARE. SORT OF
SPECIALIZED THAT THERE'S A LOT
OF STUFF OUT THERE THAT IS NEW
THAT WE'RE JUST GETTING INTO
THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT CAN.
BE SAFER FOR OUR EMPLOYEES ON
THE ROADWAY AND DO THINGS THAT
WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE LIKE.
AUTOMATICALLY CLEAN SOME OF THE-
BY PRESIDENT EXTRA HIGHWAYS
THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE
THINGS WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE SO
THIS KIND OF BEST VALUE
PROCUREMENT ALLOWS US TO GET
INTO THAT AREA THAT WE HAVEN'T
DONE. IT'S GREAT AND- I HAVE YOU
FOUND ANY ISSUES THAT WOULD
HINDER THE USE OF BEST VALUE AT
THIS POINT NO WE WERE REALLY-
EAGER TO CONTINUE USING THIS.
AND AGAIN I SHOULD POINT OUT AND
I DON'T I THINK I WAS REMISS
THIS ONLY APPLIES TO HEAVY
EQUIPMENT AND SPECIALTY
EQUIPMENT FOR CALTRANS IT'S NOT.
ALL OF OUR CONTRACTING OR EVEN
ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT CONTRACT-
AND THEN JUST ONE MORE QUESTION-
THERE WAS AN UPDATE ON A REPORT
ON THE HIGH ROAD REPORTING. IN
THE BEST VALUE PROCUREMENT OF
PROCUREMENT METHOD- DO YOU HAVE
AN UPDATE. YEAH THAT'S A GOOD
POINT IN FACT I SKIPPED OVER
THAT PART IN MY TALKING POINTS.
SO THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR US
REPORT ON THAT AND BELIEVE THAT
REPORT IS DUE IN MARCH OF NEXT
YEAR- AND AT THAT TIME WE WILL
BE REPORTING ON- THE HIGH ROAD
JOB INFORMATION SUCH AS-
INVESTMENT IN JOB QUALITY ACCESS
FOR UNDERREPRESENTED.
COMMUNITIES MEETING THE SKILLS
AND NEEDS OF THE EMPLOYERS- THE
ECONOMIC SOCIAL AND
ENVIRONMENTAL NEEDS OF THE
COMMUNITY AS WELL SO THAT ALL BE
INCLUDED IN THAT REPORT- GIVEN
THAT. WERE NOT TOO FAR IN DEBT
ON THIS ALREADY I DON'T HAVE AN
UPDATE ON WHAT WILL BE IN THAT
REPORT BUT THAT REPORT WILL
BECOME. OKAY OKAY- I. THINK ANY
ANY QUESTIONS SENATORS THANK YOU
. FOR YEAH YEAH OKAY. WELL WE
LOOK FORWARD TO THAT REPORT. AND
IF THERE'S ANYTHING BEFORE MARCH
OF NEXT YEAR. YOU CAN PASS IT ON
TO ABSOLUTELY OKAY. OKAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH WE DON'T WITH
ISSUE TWENTY TWO WE WANT TO
ISSUE TWENTY THREE
IMPLEMENTATION OF SB SIX SEVENTY
FOUR AGAIN MR KICK. THANK YOU-
THERE IS NOTED IN YOUR AGENDA
SENATE BILL SIX SEVENTY FOUR
ESTABLISHED THE HIGH ROADS JOB
IN TRANSPORTATION RELATED PUBLIC
CONTRACTS AND GRANTS BY THE
PROGRAM. VERY PROUD OF SAID
THAT- WITHOUT SAID NGUYEN- IT'S
VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM THOUGH
AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT REALLY
SUPPORTS THE CREATION OF
EQUITABLE HIGH QUALITY
TRANSPORTATION JOBS IN JOBS IN
THE RELATED TO MANUFACTURING AND
INFRASTRUCTURE AREAS- THE LAW
WHICH WAS PASSED I BELIEVE IN
SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. REQUIRES
A PUBLIC CONTRACT AWARDED BY
DEPARTMENT GENERAL SERVICES OVER
DE GEA'S. OR BY CALTRANS FOR THE
ACQUISITION OF ZERO EMISSION
TRANSIT VEHICLES OR ELECTRIC
VEHICLE SUPPLY EQUIPMENT. VALUED
AT TEN MILLION DOLLARS A MORE.
MUST INCORPORATE THESE THESE
HIGH ROAD JOBS GOALS. THE BILL
ALSO REQUIRES THAT CONTRACTORS
AWARDED TO ANYONE OF THESE
CONTRACTS MUST REPORT ANNUALLY
ALL THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO
DEMONSTRATE THEIR COMPLIANCE
WITH THE THESE HIGH ROAD JOBS
REQUIREMENTS. AND IT ALSO
AUTHORIZES DIGEST TO IMPLEMENT
ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS OR
SUBSTITUTE REQUIREMENTS- TO
ENSURE- THAT WE ARE GETTING THAT
REPORTING FROM THE CONTRACTOR. I
SINCE AN ACCIDENT OF THIS LAW
CALTRANS INDEED YES HAVE BEEN
WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY. TO
DEVELOP AND PUBLISH POLICIES
PROCEDURES AND REQUIREMENTS
APPLICABLE TO ANY COVERED
CONTRACTS SO IT I WANT TO BE
CLEAR AND SAY WE HAVE BEEN
AWARDED A CONTRACT YET WE'RE
STILL WORKING THROUGH THOSE
GUIDELINES- AND WORKING VERY
COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES.
AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO CONTINUE
TO- OUR EFFORTS TO IMPLEMENT A
FULLY SENATE BILL SIXTY FOUR- IN
FUTURE ACQUISITIONS. SO RIGHT
NOW YOU'RE IN THE GUIDELINES. A
DEVELOPMENT I GOING THREE DAYS
CORRECT WHAT'S THE TIME THAT
YOU'RE EXPECTING BEFORE YOU
ACTUALLY BEGIN TO. YES LAMENT
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION TO
WHICH I DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER I
YOU KNOW WE MAY HAVE A
REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE
PROVINCIAL SERVICES THE NUMBER.
OF AIR. RICHARD DEFER TO THE TO
THE GENTLE SERVICES. GREAT THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING AT ANGELES
CELL. I AM THE DEFEAT OF FOR THE
PROCUREMENT OF AND THE US
CHEAPER AN OFFICER THE
DEPARTMENT GENERAL SIR. SO THANK
YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY- SO YES-
AS A MISTER TECH SAID WE HAVE
BEEN COLLABORATING A BOTH WITH
LABOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
AGENCY IN CALTRANS- WE AT TGS
CURRENTLY HAVE A BUDGET REQUEST
FOR THE LEGISLATURE- AND WE ARE
HOPING TO HAVE APPROVAL OF THAT
ONCE THAT IS DONE THAT WILL BE
FOR THE NEXT- BUDGET YEAR- AND
WE WILL BEGIN STARTING IN JULY.
WITH DEVELOPING OUR PROCESSES
ARE PRACTICES AND GETTING A MORE
ROBUST- SET OF REQUIREMENTS OUT
FOR THESE CONTRACTS THAT ARE
COMING UP. AND WHAT IS THE
BUDGET REQUEST FOR. ITS FOR US
SOME RESOURCES SO- I BELIEVE
IT'S TWO POSITIONS TO BE ABLE TO
ASSIST US WITH- THE POLICY AND
PROCEDURE PART- AND THEN THE-
CONTRACT COMPLIANCE AND
BASICALLY CONTRACT-
IMPLEMENTATION. AND THOSE
POSITIONS IN ORDER FOR YOU TO
GET STARTED WHEN. THOSE WOULD BE
FOR JULY ONE. OKAY.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE PROCEDURES
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SO IT'S
ALL RELYING ON. THE GETTING THE
RESULT THE RESOURCES FOR THE TWO
POSITIONS IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE
TO. YES YES IN TERMS OF BEING
ABLE TO PUT OUR OUR UP
PROCEDURES IN PLACE AND GET
GUIDANCE OUT- FOR BOTH CALTRANS
AND- DGS. WE DO NEED THOSE
POSITIONS WE HAVE GOTTEN STARTED
ON OUR CONTRACT LANGUAGE- BASED
ON HIGHROAD JOBS LANGUAGE THAT
WE ALREADY HAD IMPLEMENTED- AS A
RESULT OF CODED EMERGENCY
CONTRACTS SO WE AGAIN HAVE MADE
SOME PROGRESS WERE JUST NOT AT
THE POINT WE NEED THE RESOURCES
TO BE ABLE TO DO THE PROCEDURES
BEYOND THAT. OKAY SO- WITH
RESPECT TO THE LABOR PEACE
AGREEMENT AND IF ANYTHING THAT.
YOU HAVE DONE ALL OF THAT WILL
BE A PART OF THE- PROCEDURES
WHEN WE PUT THAT TOGETHER BUT
THE HIGH ROADS JOBS LANGUAGE
ALREADY INCLUDES THE LABOR PEACE
AGREEMENT REQUIREMENTS. OKAY WHO
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT THE-
SENATE IS. ZERO OKAY SO WE'RE
TRYING TO BUY EQUIPMENT. WE HAVE
TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS
BEFORE WE CAN BUY EQUIPMENT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE VENDORS. ARE
COMPLAIN AND ALL THIS STUFF. GO
AHEAD YOU OPEN OKAY. SO WE WILL
HAVE CONTRACT LANGUAGE THAT WILL
GO INTO ALL OF THESE CONTRACTS
THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THE BILL
RIGHT- AND THAT CONTRACT
LANGUAGE WILL- IN THE FOR THE
SOLICITATION ADVERTISEMENT OF
THE CONTRACT WILL NOTIFY
CONTRACTORS THAT THEY MUST
COMPLY- AND THEN THE COMPLIANCE
PIECE IT'LL GOING TO BE AWARDED
CONTRACT AND THEN THE COMPLIANCE
PEACE WILL COME AFTER THAT. WERE
CONTRACTORS WILL HAVE TO
DEMONSTRATE TO THE STATE THAT
THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH
THOSE CONTRACTS ACQUIREMENT AND
THIS IS FOR THE ZERO EMISSION.
CONVERSION OVER TO. YES THESE
WOULD BE FOR CONTRACTS THAT YES
ARE ARE IDENTIFIED WITH GET THE
EQUIPMENT WE NEED TO CONVERT
OVER SO WE CAN STOP POLLUTING.
WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF
THAT PART. BECAUSE I MEAN EITHER
I MEAN THE EQUIPMENTS MEANT FOR
HELPING BUILD ROADS. AND WELL
NOT ANYMORE BUT- CLEAN ROADS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. HERE TO BEGIN
THE SURVEY TRANS RIGHT YEAH HE
JUST IS FOR TRANSIT THE OTHER
THE CHARGING EQUIPMENT LIKE
NECKTIES TEN MILLION YES. RIGHT
NOT THE BEST VALUE EQUIPMENT
THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY
I OKAY THEY TALKED ABOUT
PREVIOUSLY. THAT SEEMS TO BE A
LOT OF STUFF ON TO ACCOMPLISH.
SOMETHING IT'S GOING TO GET
ACCOMPLISHED THE END ANYWAY AND
IT ALSO DOESN'T ENDEAR OF THE-
HERE. COOL OF APPLICANTS. WHICH
MEANS WE HAVE LESS COMP. FOR
WHAT'S A GOOD CONTRACTOR WHAT'S
AND COST ANOTHER WORDS. WE HAVE
TWO PEOPLE BIDDING ON A PROPERTY
ON EQUIPMENT OR TO SUPPLY
EQUIPMENT AND PROJECTS. AS
OPPOSED TO TWENTY. THAT'S TWO
PEOPLE HIKES GONNA CHARGE THE
TAXPAYERS A LOT MORE. SO I THINK
THAT'S WHY VOTED NO ON THIS BILL
. WHAT WILL STOP RIGHT THERE
I'VE MADE MY POINT THANK YOU. NO
PLEASE BE. YES. IS. THANK. AFTER
THE WITH. CONNECT PLEASE. OKAY
ALL RIGHT I THINK THAT THE IT
WITH AS THE SEVEN FOUR. THANK
ALL VERY MUCH WE APPRECIATE ALL
THE- LOOK FORWARD TO THE- SO
SEVENTY. AND AGAIN THANK YOU ALL
. ALL YOUR HARD WORK. OKAY WE'RE
MOVING NOW TO. A PUBLIC COMMENT
SO AS A REMINDER TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 AND THE ACCESS CODE
IS SIX NINE FOUR EIGHT NINE
THREE ZERO- PLEASE KEEP YOUR
PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THIRTY
SECONDS OR LESS- WE ARE- TAKING-
PUBLIC COMMENT ON PART A- ITEMS-
ON IN THIS HEARING. THAT'S JUST
THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES- WE
HAVE A HARD STOP FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT AT TWELVE FIFTY IF
YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO TESTIFY TODAY
PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS OR
SUGGESTIONS IN WRITING TO THE
BUDGET FISCAL REVIEW COMMITTEE
SO AGAIN I JUST WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THAT. THE LENGTH OF
TIME THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO
US WE'LL BEGIN WITH WITNESSES
HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED.
GO AHEAD THREE MANAGER KEYSTONE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THE SELF HELP
COUNTIES COALITION I WOULD JUST
ADD IN SPEAKING TO THE INDIRECT
COST RATE THAT THOSE INDIRECT
COSTS EXIST FOR CALTRANS WHETHER
OR NOT SELF HOPE COUNTIES HAVE
THE PLEASURE OF BUILDING
CALTRANS SYSTEM AS THE PREVIOUS
PANEL INDICATED WITH MISTER
PIMENTEL'S COMMENTS. WERE TO
PASS A LOCAL SELF HELP MEASURES
HELD BACK FILL THAT HAPPENED
WITH THE HIGHWAY SYSTEM. DECADES
AGO AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON
AND PARTNERING WITH CALTRANS AND
BUILDING THE PROJECT THOSE
INDIRECT COSTS EXIST ABSENT OUR
PARTICIPATION IN BUILDING THEIR
SYSTEM THIS IS AN EFFORT THAT WE
WORK WITH CALTRANS TO TRY AND
ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH
CALTRANS ENGINEERS. TO BUILD
THOSE PROGRAMS PUT A CAP ON JUST
AS THE FUNDING PARTNERS WITH
HIGH SPEED RAIL IN OTHERS THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS TO WITH
RELIGIOUS FOR THE PER ENGINE AND
CAL GO. WE JOIN WITH THE SELF
HELP CAN IN ASKING THIS
COMMITTEE TO REINSTATE THAT
STATUTORY PROVISION ON THE
INTERNET COST RECOVERY PROGRAM
SIMILAR TO WHAT IT THE HIGH
SPEED RAIL AUTHORITY ENJOYS. A
PRIOR TO THIRTY YEARS AGO THERE
WERE NO SELF HELP COUNTIES THERE
WASN'T ENOUGH REVENUES THEY HAD
TO GO OUT AND RAISE MONEY TO DO
IT IS. SENSUALLY STATE WORK WE
DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR
THEM TO OVERPAY FOR THOSE
OVERHEAD COSTS AND SHOULD.
BURDEN PUT BACK INTO THE- STATUE
THAT PROGRAM. THANK YOU THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYMORE
WITNESS HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED. THAT ONE TO SPEAK UP
OKAY MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PROMPT INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT. WE WILL BEGIN. THANK
MEDICARE. FOR THE SERVICE
DEPARTMENT PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. I CAN'T HELP
FOR FIRST AND A GO TO LINE
FORTY. THE GOOD MORNING CHAIR TO
ROUTE THE NUMBERS GREENCORE GOT
AFFAIRS BE AT THE CENTER AND
CAREFULLY SO. ISSUE TWENTY
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEES
ONGOING INTEREST ISSUE AND THE
DISCUSSION TODAY THE REQUESTED
THE L. A- REPORT. THE CONTINUE
TO URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR SHORT
TERM RELIEF FUNDS FOR TRANSIT
OPERATIONS TO INTEREST CONTINUE
TO FEDERAL TRANSIT SERVICE
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA. AND WE
COMMEND TO YOU THE SPECIFIC
PROPOSALS NOW ON THE TABLE.
THIRD YOU TO CONSIDER ALL
OPTIONS RECOGNIZING THAT IT WILL
TAKE A CREATIVE PACKAGE OF
REVENUE IDEAS TO ADDRESS THE
FISCAL CLIFF PROBLEMS FOR
AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. AND
SUPPORT TODAY. THANK YOU. MODEL
COULD YOU TELL ME HOW. PEOPLE
WAITING TESTIFY. MANAGER AND
PROBABLY SEVEN PEOPLE SIGNAL
THEY WISH TO. AND THERE WILL BE
NO MORE OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
GO AHEAD. LINE FORTY SIX FOR
LINE IS OPEN. MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS DEREK BOK AT THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION I
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE
TWENTY THREE THE IMPLEMENTATION
OF AT THE SIX SEVENTY FOUR
ABILITY SUPPORTED- AND WE WOULD
URGE DG ASKING CALTRANS AND THE
LABOR WORK FORCE AND DEVELOPMENT
AGENCY. TO WORK TOGETHER TO
DEVELOP STRONG AND ADOPT STRONG
INSTRUMENTATION POLICIES THAT
ENSURE THE CREATION OF HIGH ROAD
JOBS WITH GOOD WAGES AND
BENEFITS. THAT WE REBUILD OUR
MIDDLE CLASS WHILE TRANSITIONING
Q. AND ZERO EMISSIONS VEHICLES
THANK. YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
THANKS LINE THIRTY YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS MY NAME IS EMMA
GARTENBERG WITH JOB MOST MEREKA
. I'M CALLING TO REQUEST THAT
THE G. CALTRANS ESTABLISH FUND
PLAN FOR IMPLEMENTING SB SIX
SEVEN FOR THE FOX AND FRIENDS
POSSIBLE. ON AVERAGE WAGES AND
BENEFITS OF CLEAN ENERGY SELF
HELP FIVE. EIGHT YEAH AND IN
POPULATION THIS. AND SIX FOUR
EIGHT THAT BICYCLE HIGH JOB
CREATION WHILE ALSO PROTECTING
THIS ENTRY IN CUTTING EMISSIONS
. AND EFFICIENTLY. WE REQUIRE
THAT YOU TAKE THE RECOMMENDED
PROVIDE YOU ON JAN MAY AND- OF
LABOR IN MARIN JUSTICE. AND
COMMUNITY GROUPS IN HIS STRONG
THAT AERATION THANK YOU. LINER
YOU LIFE NO OPEN. RECOMMENDED
ISSUE TO TRANSIT AFTER. COULD
NOT BE SENATOR NINETY IS
MICHELLE OVER MY AND I'M
MODERATE TRANSIT LOCATED ALONG
STATE'S EIGHT CENTRAL COAST AND
REMEMBER A BIT CAL TRANS IF THE
- HELLO THANK YOU FOR YOUR- ON
THE RECENT BUDGET PLAN RELEASED
AND PROTECTING THE- OUR- OF THE
- APPROVED BY. FOR TRANS AND
INTERCITY CAPITAL PROGRAM. I
APPRECIATE YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND
THE TRANSIT IS BY TO THE STATE
THE CON- AND I. WOULD HOPE THAT
YOU CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HELP
TRANSIT A FIFTY. AND OUR WORK
WITH- WORKING SLOW STEADY IN
RIGHT WE'RE STILL. OF POINT ONE
DOLLAR AFTER IN THE COMING
FISCAL YEAR. BUT WE ENCOURAGE
YOU TO CONTINUE YOUR WORK THAT
EACH A- THANK YOU FOR YOUR OF
TRANSIT. THANK YOU FOR CALLING.
WHITE FIVE- ONE NOW WILL. GOOD
AFTERNOON JONES A SPEAKER IN-
OAKLAND CA ON FISHING ONE I JUST
WANT TO LET GO THE CALLS
MARGARINE. PARTNERS AND HELP
TRANSIT- TO DELIVER MY NEEDED-
OPERATION FOR. THE TRANSIT INTO
BECAUSE CALIFORNIA. AT EIGHT
TRANSIT WERE ONE HUNDRED FORTY
THREE DOLLAR AT THE MOMENT AND
SEVERAL YEARS. ARTICLE
DELIVERING OUR SERVICE YOU NEED
TO INCREASE AN EFFECTIVE OFTEN
HAS YOUR SHOW UP MORE THAN FOUR.
SO WE CONSIDER THE PRE THAT
PUNISHMENT FOR IN LAUGHTER
BUDGET. OPERATE FUND YEAH BUT WE
NEED TO RECOVER THE TEN. PLEASE
PARKS THE JEWEL PUBLIC'S ON
GROUND THANKS MUCH FREE TIME.
MY ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS OTHER
LEADING LABOR AND KIND OF PUT
ACROSS CALIFORNIA TO IMPLEMENT
SENATE BILL CLINTON FOR THE
TRANSITION TWO ZERO TRANSIT
VEHICLE THE TENSION THAT WORKERS
ARE LEFT. EGF CALTRAIN TO THE
PRESENT WITH THE COULD UP TO A
QUICK JOB QUALITY WE GET
BENEFITS FOR WORKERS ACROSS
CALIFORNIA. THE ROBOT EQUIPMENT
POLICY CAN MEET OUR- THE RESPECT
REQUEST YOU TAKE A
RECOMMENDATION PROVIDED TO IN
JUST OF THREE AT THE YOUR- THANK
YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR. THANK YOU.
ONE NINETEEN LINUS OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON JERRY MEMBERS
SECRETARY AND ENTER HE REGARDING
A HUGE. FOR CURRENTLY OPERATIONS
WITH ITS ONE OF MANY PROBABLY IN
THE BUDGET. I THINK BURKE HIGH
FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE ONE
RELATIVE EASY. ROUGHLY TWENTY
FIVE BILLION IN Q. FOR THIS
HIGHWAY CANNOT FEDERAL OVER THE
FIVE GRACE THE BACK INTEREST LA
SHOULD MAKE THE STATE ACCOUNT A
CLEAR. FOR FINE THE ROUGHLY
BILLION NEEDED HELP TRANSIT. AND
ULTIMATELY TO TRY THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME ATTENTION ON THIS IN
ISSUE THANK FIVE FOR YOUR IS NOW
OPEN. FINAL FORTY FOUR YOU'RE
GOING TO OPEN. IN TERMS OF
DEVELOPMENT MY NAME IS CHRIS
MARK I'M THE ONE STATES OF THE
BLUEGRASS. WE UNITE LIVING AND
ORGANIZATION TO SELL TODAY'S.
ALLEN'S IS. READ AND MAINTAIN
POWER JOBS AND BUILD A CLEAN
DRIVING EQUITABLE. I AM ALSO
ACTUAL. ENCOURAGING DO YOU
CALTRANS TO THREATS FONG
IMPLEMENTATION OUTLINED BY.
THANK THANK YOU. BOETTICHER WE
HAD ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO JOIN
THE QUEUE WE NOW HAVE SIX FLAGS
. FIVE FORTY NINE YOUR LINES NOW
OPEN OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS JIM LIFE ON
BEHALF OF THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY
AREA RAPID TRANSIT DISTRICT
MISTER FILMON TELLS. EFFECTUALLY
AMBER BONTA SOME OF YOUR
QUESTIONS JERRY- STRONGLY
OUTLINED A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES
THAT PARK IS FACING IN TRYING TO
BRING BACK RIDERSHIP IN A REGION
WHERE WORK AT HOME IS TAKEN
HOLE- SAN FRANCISCO BACON OFFICE
SPACE IS A 22% AND EXPECTED TO
GROW AND I THINK ANOTHER-
ILLUSTRATIVE FACT OF THE
CHALLENGES FOR RIDERSHIP IN THE
BAY AREA. WE VERY MUCH LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THIS
COMMITTEE AND THE LEGISLATURE IN
THE ADMINISTRATION TO ADDRESS
OPERATING FUNDING GOING FORWARD
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU.
NEXT BY FORTY EIGHT ZERO ONE NOT
OPEN. PLEASE WITH THE THING
YOU'RE MY TRANSIT SYSTEMS AND- I
ONE WE LIKE THE FIRST THING THAT
FOR PROPOSING PROTECT FULL
BALANCE OF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
FUNDING FOR THE TRGP AND WE ALSO
APPRECIATE WE ALSO APPRECIATE
THE FACT ACKNOWLEDGING THE NEED
TO ADDRESS TRANSIT AGENCIES
OPERATING DEFICITS. MCS AMONG
ITS PEER AGENCIES IS COMMITTED
TO CONTINUING THE IMPORTANT WORK
WITH C. K. TO SECURE VITAL
OPERATIONS FUNDING FOR PUBLIC
TRANSIT AND- YOUR SUPPORT IN
THIS EFFORT THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. NEXT.
LINE FIFTY TWO YEAR THE ONE IS
NOW OPEN. HOLLY FOR MEETINGS
WITH THE FLIGHT HOW PUBLIC
CALLING ON BEHALF AND
REPRESENTING FURTHER FRANCISCO
BAY AREA PLANNING AND URBAN
RESEARCH INITIATION THE CARD
WOULD HAVE TO GET THE COALITION
WORKING TO SECURE THE NEEDED ONE
TIME WILL BE FUNDING. FOR
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM
WE APPRECIATE AND ACKNOWLEDGE
THE CRITICAL ISSUE AND HOW THE
ENTIRE TIME IN THE STATE
DEMOCRATS PROTECT OUR PROGRESS.
BUDGET PLAN RELEASED JUST
YESTERDAY AND THE ONGOING
COMMITMENT OF THE STATE TO HELP
OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM PROVIDE YOUNG
BRIDE CALIFORNIA COURTS AND
THAT'S VULNERABLE RESIDENTS RELY
ON TRANSIT AND THE STATE CANNOT
ACHIEVE ITS AMBITIOUS CLIMATE
GOALS WITHOUT A ROBUST AND
HEALTHY TRANSIT SYSTEMS. WE
WON'T GET THERE IF OUR MOST
PRODUCTIVE TRANSIT OPERATORS GO
OVER A FISCAL CLIFF AND TO AVOID
THIS OUTCOME NEED A MULTI YEAR
COMMITMENT OF ONE TIME FUNDS
FROM THE STATE. BUDGET PROCESS
ADVANTAGES WE AT THE END OF THE
WEEK- YOU WE CAN MAKE ALL THE.
AND WE CAN FEEL. OR SUPPORT AND
HELP THE BUT HATE BUDGET WILL
CONTINUE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. ONE
FIFTY THREE YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. THANK YOU MONEY OUT OF MY
.
ARE YOU SURE IT AFTER YOU KNOW
THE ACTOR GLOBUS MEDICAL LAST
YEAR WE DON'T ACTUALLY GO
BACKWARDS- AND GO BACK TO A
SITUATION WHICH IS ONLY ENOUGH
FUNDING DID TO- SCORED- TWENTY
OR FEWER- PROJECTS- THROUGH.
WALKING THE OPPOSITE CALIFORNIA
IT'S IMPORTANT IT'S CRITICAL
THAT WE- THAT WE PUT. OUR MONEY
TOWARDS ACTUALLY. MAKING THE
CHANGES WE COMMITTED TO IN THE
STATE AND USING THE M. T. AND-
AND- INCREASING ATTACKS FOR
WALKING BIKING- WANTED EXPRESS
FOR THOSE PROPOSALS NOT. BUDGET
YES THANK. FIND FORTY THREE YEAR
OLD NOW OPEN. A GOOD AFTERNOON-
CHARGE SO NUMBERS THIS SEPT MANY
AND OMAR SO I WITH THE- YOU KNOW
WITH WITH MILLION MA'AM THE YOU
KNOW AUTO REGION. ARMAND ON
TWENTY- I'M JUST TO- URGE YOU
KNOW THAT THE CALTRAIN COMMITTEE
THE STRONG. EMPLOYMENT PAULA
OUTLINED BY- ARE AS WELL AS TO
THE NOT THANK YOU. WHY FIFTY ONE
LINES OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON NAME
IS KERR WITH FEE STATE AMONG
THAT. FOR AND- ONE CLASS TRAINED
SYSTEM IN THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY
AND- WANTING TO THANK. YOU AND
THAT IT OR A. TRACK BUDGET FRAME
BASED- SYSTEMS ACKNOWLEDGE OF
THE- AND NEED- AND THAT THE COOK
FACING TRYING AGENT- STAND WITH
OUR OTHER IN TRANSIT IN AFRICA
FOR MULTI YEAR. AND THROUGH THE
NAY COUPLE YEARS I'M HERE IN THE
BAY AREA WE- KEENLY OKAY ON THAT
ON HOW A MAJOR NAY. BUT WE NEED
MORE TIME WE NEED IT WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT PER
SUCCESS WE'RE IN THE MIDST
INVEST REVENUE SO PER AID IT
GONNA FIND. THAT CAN LEAD TO A
TO. IMPROVED SYSTEM FOR. THAT IS
THAT DOES REQUIRE THAT WE HAVE
FUND INTO US THROUGH THE NEXT
FEW YEARS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE HER BACK CAN FOR. WELL
MEASURE INTO TWENTY OR TWENTY
EIGHT AND BY THE MALL YEAR
FUNDING FROM THIS IF YOU NEED TO
THIS HELP IT AFTER THAT POINT
YOU HI TO TRANSFORM BALLOT THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT. BY
FORTY OR IS NOW OPEN. THAT
AFTERNOON EMILY OUR WITH AREA
COUNCIL BERMAN FOR OVER THREE
MAJOR. ACROSS AREA WE ARE
SUPPORT FOR A MONTH YEAR FIVE
COMMITMENT TO ENSURE OUR-
TRANSIT PROVIDE THIS CRISIS THE
MEDIC RIGHT LEVINE. PUBLIC
TRANSIT LONG A LIFE OF OUR
ECONOMY AND REMAINS TO BE. I
SURPRISED FOR MOST RIGHT OF ALL
IN LEVEL STILL ON TRANSIT
SYSTEMS THE ACCESS JOHN BENNETT
THE THIRD CUTS MAKE IT SO. FOR
PEOPLE TO CONTINUE WE REFER IN
OUR FORCE IN THE ECONOMIC AND.
IT COULD BE MAKING. I WILL BE
PUTTING A GROUP. AND FOLLOW
THANKS VERY MUCH. NEXT PLEASE.
PARDON ME MADAM CHAIR WE HAVE
ONE MORE PERSON WHO'S CUTE UP AS
OF BOYS JUST A MOMENT THANK YOU
. LOOKING FOR THAT FIRST
INSTANCE WASN'T THOROUGH. PARDON
ME MADAM CHAIR JUST ANOTHER
MOMENT PLACE.
ONE FIFTY FIVE. HELLO GOOD
AFTERNOON I'M JOE TAXPAYER FROM
SAN DIEGO COUNTY I THINK THERE
SHOULD BE A- CENTRALIZED AGENCY
TO MANAGE TRANSPORTATION IN THE
SAME MANNER THAT THERE IS A
CENTRALIZED AGENCIES TO MANAGE
THE HIGHWAYS- YEAH ABOUT IT. M.
MADAM CHAIR- PARDON ME WE DO
HAVE ONE FINAL PERCENT LINE
FIFTY FOUR YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
GOOD AFTERNOON SENATORS THIS IS
DEVIN RYAN GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
OFFICER CALTRAIN WE ECHO THE
COMMENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA
TRANSIT ASSOCIATION WANT TO
THANK THE SENATE FOR PROPOSING
TO PROTECT THE FULL BALANCE OF
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FUNDING FOR
THE TRANSIT AND INTERCITY RAIL
CAPITAL PROGRAM WE APPRECIATE
THE SENATE FLOOR IT KNOWLEDGE
BEING THE NEED TO ADDRESS
TRANSIT AGENCIES OPERATING
DEFICITS AND WANT TO URGE YOU TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH EPA TO
ADDRESS THAT FISCAL CRISIS FOR
TRANSIT AGENCIES IN THE STATE
THANK YOU SO MUCH. MADAM CHAIR
IS SOMEONE ELSE OKAY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- WE'RE GOING TO MOVE
NOW TO THE VOTE ONLY A- WE'VE
BEEN ASKED TO- SPLIT. SPLIT THE
VOTES TAKE UP THE ISSUES IN TWO
GROUPS SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
VOTE TO GROUPS OF BOATS- AND I
WANNA WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON
A VOTE. ONLY ISSUES. THREE SIX
EIGHT NINE ELEVEN THROUGH
NINETEEN. IF COULD HAVE A MOTION
TO MOVE THOSE ISSUES. ZERO SEVEN
ZERO TWO MOVES THAT THE MOTION-
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
. DURAZO I DURAZO AYE. NEWMAN
AYE NEWMAN AYE CERDA. I OKAY THE
MOST IS APPROVED- THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WE NOW MOVE TO AND I ASK
FOR A MOTION ON THE VOTE ONLY
ISSUES. ONE TWO FOUR FIVE SEVEN
AND TEN. THE NEW JERSEY. MOVED
BY SENATOR NEWMAN- CONSULTANT
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. DURACELL.
FIVE ZERO ZERO HI NEWMAN NEWMAN
AYE THERE'S STILL. THIRTEEN NOW
. LISTEN TO MOTION- AND THAT FIT
ON THEM MOTION. OKAY WHEN CENTER
HERE OKAY- THANK YOU TO WHO. IN
THE TESTIMONY- IF YOU DID NOT
TESTIFY YOU CAN SUBMIT YOUR
COMMENTS IN WRITING TO THE
BUDGET AND FISCAL REVIEW
COMMITTEE OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE
THANK YOU WE APPRECIATE
EVERYONE'S PARTICIPATION WE'VE
CONCLUDED THE AGENDA FOR PART
EIGHT OF TODAY'S HEARING WE WILL
NOW MOVE ON TO PART B. THREE-
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A- MINUTE BREAK
. TO STRETCH OUT THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO PART B.
OF THE AGENDA COVERING SEVERAL
KEY ISSUES IN THE JUDICIAL
BRANCH OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE ITEM- DEPARTMENT JUSTICE
ALL ACTION ITEMS WILL BE HELD
OPEN SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY
MORE VOTES TODAY WE WILL TAKE
PUBLIC COMMENT ON ALL ITEMS AT
THE END LET'S BEGIN WITH PART B.
FROM ITEM ONE WHICH IS A BIG XIN
FILINGS AND ACCESS TO LEGAL
SERVICES FIRST WE WILL HEAR FROM
LEAH ROSE GOOD WHEN FROM THE
JUDICIAL COUNCIL. THANK WHILE
SENATOR THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT
I AM LIA ROSE GOODWIN I AM THE
JUDICIAL BRANCH'S CHIEF DATA
ANALYTICS OFFICER AND I'M HERE
TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON FILENE'S
TRENDS IN UNLAWFUL DETAINER
MATTERS THROUGH THE CODE
NINETEEN PANDEMIC I'LL BE
REFERRING TO SAM FIVE. PIECES OF
DATA THAT ARE POSTED ON THE
PUBLIC WEBSITE AS WELL AS
AVAILABLE OUTSIDE FOR ANYBODY
WATCHING. SO JUST AS A QUICK
OVERVIEW I MEAN TO TALK ABOUT
STATEWIDE TRENDS IN THESE
MATTERS- BUT WE DO HAVE THESE
TRENDS AVAILABLE FOR INDIVIDUAL
JURISDICTIONS AND I INVITE ALL
OF YOU TO USE OUR PUBLIC
DASHBOARDS THEY ARE AVAILABLE AT
THE LINK COURTS DOT CA DOT GOV.
FORWARD SLASH DASHBOARD. ON
THOSE DASHBOARDS AGAIN YOU CAN
NOT VIEW INDIVIDUAL JURISDICTION
TRENDS. I WAS SO OVERALL OUR
STATEWIDE ANNUAL FILINGS AN
UNLAWFUL DETAINER HAVE. MARKEDLY
CHANGED AS A RESULT OF THE
PANDEMIC IN THE TWO YEARS PRIOR
TO THE PANDEMIC. I'D ANNUAL
UNLAWFUL DETAINER FILENE'S
HOVERED AROUND A HUNDRED AND
THIRTY THOUSAND OF FILENE'S
MARC- WHEN THE EMERGENCY ORDERS
WERE FIRST PUT IN THE PLAY IN
THE SPRING OF TWENTY TWENTY WE
SAW AN IMMEDIATE DECREASE IN
THIS VIOLENCE TYPE. AND IN
TWENTY TWENTY THE FISCAL YEAR
TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
FILINGS IN THIS MATTER DROPPED
TO THEIR LOWEST POINT THIRTY
FIVE THOUSAND. WE'RE SEEING SOME
SIGNS OF AN INCREASE AGAIN IN
FILINGS THE FILINGS FOR FISCAL
YEAR TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO- WERE
RIGHT AROUND SEVENTY THOUSAND SO
TWICE AS HIGH AS THE PRIOR YEAR-
BUT STILL ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WAS
FILED IN THE PRE PANDEMIC PERIOD
. ARE MOVING ON TO SLIDE FIVE
FOR THOSE WHO ARE FOLLOWING
ALONG IN THE HAND OUT. OF IF WE
TAKE A LOOK AT THAT LAST YEAR OF
FILINGS DATA AND LOOK AT THE
DATA ON A MONTHLY BASIS. FILINGS
IN THE LATTER MONTHS OF THE
TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO FISCAL
YEAR OF APPEAR TO BE APPROACHING
OR REACHING PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS
. AS WE LOOKED AT DATA FROM JUNE
TWENTY TWENTY TWO TO MORE TO
MORE CURRENT MONTH BUT WE DON'T
HAVE COMPLETE DATA FROM ALL
COURTS WE ONLY HAVE SOME
PRELIMINARY. AND UNVEIL A DATA
DATA FROM A NUMBER OF CHORDS A
INCLUDING SOME OF OUR LARGEST
COURTS LIKE LOS ANGELES. A SO WE
CAN GET A SENSE OF THE TREND-
EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE
VALIDATED DATA TO DISPLAY YET.
WHAT WE SEE WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME
MORE CURRENT MONTHS IS THAT UT
FILINGS APPEAR TO BE STAYING
CONSISTENT WITH THE TREND SEEN
IN MAY AND JUNE. SO AGAIN-
MENDOCINE PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS.
OF BUT WE ARE NOT SEEN THESE
FILINGS EXCEED OR REACH OR
APPROACH- ANYTHING LIKE A- A
TSUNAMI OF FILINGS- WHERE. YOU
KNOW WHERE WE'RE- AT THE EXCEED
PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS. MOVING TO
SLIDE SIX. I WAS ALSO ASKED TO
SPEAK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THESE
FILINGS ON OTHER FILINGS TYPES.
OF WEEDS. I PULLED SEVERAL.
JURISDICTIONS SEVERAL LARGE
COURTS AND ASK THEM TO. SEE IF
THEY COULD TRIANGULATED IMPACT
OF UT FILINGS ON OTHER MATTERS.
AS SUCH A SMALL CLAIMS ARE DEBT
COLLECTIONS- ONLY ONE
JURISDICTION NOTED SOME
INCREASES SOME MINOR INCREASES
IN THOSE- ADJACENT FILINGS
TYPES. BUT ALSO NOTED THAT THE
FILINGS IN THIS CASE TYPES HAD
BEEN LOWERED HAVE BEEN LOWER
THAN PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS.
ANOTHER AREA THAT I WANT TO
SPEAK ABOUT IS ABOUT CLEARANCE
AND BACKLOG AS OF THE JUDICIAL
BRANCH MONITORS CASELOAD
CLEARANCE AS A WAY OF
UNDERSTANDING ANY SORT OF-
WORKLOAD FACTORS OR OR BACKLOGS
IN THIS CASE TYPE. I HAVE A
TABLE SHOWING UNLAWFUL DETAINER
MATTERS. AS THEY COMPARED TO
TOTAL CASE TYPES- SO TO READ THE
TABLE FROM. LEFT TO RIGHT
UNLAWFUL DETAINER MATTERS BEFORE
THE PANDEMIC AVERAGE ABOUT TEN
THOUSAND A MONTH WHERE IS ALL
CASE TYPES ABOUT. JUST OVER HALF
A MILLION- THE CLEARANCE RATE
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC SO
CLEARANCES TAKING YOUR
DISPOSITIONS OVER FILINGS IT'S A
MEASURE OF WORK FLOW. CLEARANCE
IN THESE CASE TYPES WAS RIGHT
AROUND A HUNDRED PERCENT. FIVE
COMPARED TO ALL OTHER CASE TYPES
FED THAT CLEARANCE RATE WAS 86%
DURING THE PANDEMIC I THE NUMBER
OF AVERAGE FILINGS AND UNLAWFUL
DETAINER DROPPED. THE CLEARANCE
RATE. FOR THOSE FOR UNLAWFUL
DETAINER FILINGS WAS RIGHT
AROUND EIGHTY NINE PERCENT. I
WHICH COMPARES FAVORABLY TO ALL
OTHER CASE TYPES WHICH IS- ALSO
86% ALSO MATCHING THE PRE
PANDEMIC RATE THE COURTS ARE
CLEARING ALL CASES ARE AT THE
SAME RATE AS THEY WERE PRIOR TO
THE PANDEMIC ONLY AVERAGE ACROSS
ALL CASE TYPES. UNLAWFUL
DETAINER MATTERS A SIMILAR.
CLEARING FAVORABLY FIVE ALTHOUGH
IT APPEARS THAT THERE CLEARING
LESS. AT A RATE THAT SLIGHTLY
LOWER THAN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.
BUT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE A
LITTLE BIT OF THAT- IS COURTS OF
HAVE RESTORED A HEARINGS AND
MATTERS IN THIS CASE TYPE. AND I
WE YOU KNOW WE CONTINUE TO
MONITOR THE STATE A QUARTERLY. I
NEXT WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT.
GETTING ASSISTANCE IN THIS CASE
TYPES I WANT TO TALK MENTIONED
THAT THE JUDICIAL BRANCH'S PER
DOES PROVIDE EXTENSIVE
INFORMATION TO PARTIES THAT NEED
ASSISTANCE FIVE THEY DO THAT FOR
WE DO THAT FOR ALL CASE TYPES
INCLUDING UNLAWFUL DETAINER
MATTERS. AND I HAVE A SCREENSHOT
HERE OF THE SELF HELP WEBSITE-
WHERE LITIGANTS CAN GO TO GET
INFORMATION OF WHERE EVEN PEOPLE
BEFORE THEY FILE A MATTER OR
INVOLVED IN THE CASE CAN. I GET
INFORMATION ABOUT A SOME OF THE
DIFFERENT PROCESSES AVAILABLE IN
CALIFORNIA COURTS AND WE DO SOME
ANALYTICS ON THE- ON THE WEBSITE
VISIT AND WEBSITE TRAFFIC ON THE
SITE. AND WE DO SHOW THAT THERE
HAS BEEN ROBUST- INFORMATION
SEEKING FROM AB PARTIES IN THIS
TYPE OF MATTER IN U. D. MATTERS.
A BIT TO CONTEXTUALIZE THAT- A
BIT I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT
CONTINUE A IS THE NUMBER ONE
MATTER FOR WHICH CALIFORNIANS
SEEK ASSISTANCE CONTINUES TO BE
DIVORCE MATTERS. AND WHAT WE SEE
IS FOR EVERY TEN PEOPLE THAT
SEEK INFORMATION ON DIVORCE-
THERE ARE FIVE TO SEEK
INFORMATION ON EVICTION- OR UT
LADDERS. SO THERE IS ROBUST
INTEREST BUT IT'S STILL MUCH
LOWER THAN WHAT IT IS SINCE
MEMBER MORE MOST COMMON- WEBSITE
REQUEST. A SO JUST TO RECAP THE
INFORMATION PROVIDED WE ARE. NOT
SEEN WHAT WE WOULD CALL A
TSUNAMI OF CASES WHERE THE CASES
ARE. EXCEEDING THE PRE PANDEMIC
LEVELS WE DO CONTINUE TO MONITOR
WORKLOAD IN THIS AREA THERE ARE
A COUPLE OF JURISDICTIONS THAT
HAVE RECENTLY LIFTED. OF
MORATORIUMS IN THIS AREA. A AND
I AM HAPPY TO ANSWERING
QUESTIONS. GREAT THANK YOU VERY
VERY MUCH- THIS. YEAH REGISTERED
WITH THEM THE TECHNICAL. OKAY
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
AND IF YOU WOULD. STAY HERE WITH
US OKAY WONDERFUL OKAY ONE
INTRODUCED THE REST OF THE PANEL
THAT IS WITH US HERE TODAY-
OKAY. I NEED A LEVY OKAY. I'M
FROM THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S
OFFICE. JULIE RICARDO FROM LEGAL
SERVICES OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
ADAM MURRAY INNER CITY LAWCENTER
NICOLAS ACT OCCURS FROM THE
SENIOR ASSISTANT ATTORNEY
GENERAL PUBLIC RIGHTS DIVISION
OF THE DOJ. AND IS MISTER. DORO
DROBNICK HERE. THAT YOU'RE HERE
NEEDED OKAY I'M SO SORRY SAY
THAT IS SAFE FROM. YOUR THEODORE
RICH OATH. THEODORET THANK YOU
OKAY- WHO'S TO START FIRST MISLI
THANK YOU. I NEED ONLY WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE-
THE SUBCOMMITTEE ASKED US TO
COMPILE INFORMATION ON STATE
FUNDING PROVIDED TO SUPPORT
LEGAL ASSISTANCE FOR HOUSING AND
EVICTIONS- COMMITTEE MEMBERS
EIGHT THEY BELIEVE YOU HAVE A
COPY OF THE HAND OUT IN FRONT OF
YOU FOR THOSE WHO ARE FOLLOWING
ALONG- IT IS AVAILABLE ON BOTH
THE SENATE BUDGET AS WELL AS THE
L. A. L. WEBSITE. IF YOU TURN TO
PAGE ONE OF YOUR HAND OUT THE
HAND OUT AS WELL AS OUR COMMENTS
ARE REALLY KIND OF GROUPED IN
THREE AREAS WERE FIRST GOING TO
BE TALKING ABOUT- THE LEGAL
ASSISTANCE PROVIDED- SUPPORTED
WITH STATE FUNDING PROVIDED
THROUGH THE EQUAL ACCESS FUND
PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE SHRIVER
PROGRAM. WILL THEN TURN OUR
ATTENTION TO THE ELEVEN LEGAL
AID ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE
SUPPORTED BY SOME OF THE STATE
FUNDING BUT ALSO RECEIVE FEDERAL
FUNDING AND THEN WILL CONCLUDE
OUR COMMENTS WITH- SOME.
INSIGHTS INTO THE TRIAL COURT
SELF HELP CENTERS. IF YOU TURN
TO PAGE TWO OF YOUR HAND OUT
WE'RE FIRST GOING TO FOCUS ON
THE EQUAL ACCESS FUNDS PROGRAM.
THIS PROGRAM GENERALLY SUPPORTS
THE PROVISION OF LEGAL SERVICES
AND ASSISTANCE TO INDIGENT AND
SELF REPRESENTED PEOPLE IN CIVIL
CASES WHICH DOES INCLUDE
EVICTION AND HOUSING CASES. IF
YOU LOOK AT THE TABLE BEFORE YOU
ON THIS PAGE ON THE LEFT HAND
SIDE YOU'LL SEE THAT VARIOUS
FUNDS SOURCES SUPPORT THIS
PROGRAM- LOOKING AT THE TOP HALF
OF THE PROGRAM YOU'LL SEE THAT
TENS OF MILLIONS ARE PROVIDED
FOR GENERAL USE ACROSS. SEVERAL
MATTERS JUST GENERALLY. THE
BOTTOM HALF OF THE TABLE SHOWS
THAT IN RECENT YEARS THE
LEGISLATURE HAS APPROPRIATED
FUNDING FOR VERY PARTICULAR
PURPOSES WHICH HAS INCLUDED IN
SOME YEARS SPECIFICALLY FOR
HOUSING AND EVICTION. IF YOU
TURN TO PAGE THREE OF YOUR HAND
OUT. FOR THE FUNDS THAT ARE
APPROPRIATED FOR GENERAL USE
BROADLY STATE LAW DOES REQUIRE
THAT THE FUNDING BE ALLOCATED IN
A PARTICULAR WAY. SO AT LEAST A
90% IS DISTRIBUTED IT AS FORMULA
GRANTS TO NONPROFIT LEGAL
SERVICES PROVIDERS FOR THE
PROVISION OF FREE CIVIL LEGAL
SERVICES AND ASSISTANCE. TO BOTH
INDIGENT AND UNDERSERVED- PEOPLE
SO ABOUT A HUNDRED PROVIDERS ARE
CURRENTLY SUPPORTED BY THIS TYPE
OF FUNDING. MOVING DOWN THE PAGE
UP 210% CAN BE DISTRIBUTED AS
COMPETITIVE PARTNERSHIP GRANTS.
FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE
COLLABORATIONS BETWEEN A LEGAL
SERVICES PROVIDER AS WELL AS THE
COURT. TO PROVIDE LEGAL
ASSISTANCE TO SELF REPRESENTED
INDIVIDUALS. AND SO ABOUT TWENTY
TO THIRTY PROVIDERS OPERATING
ABOUT THIRTY TO FIFTY PROJECTS
ARE SUPPORTED BY THIS TYPE OF
FUNDING. IF YOU TURN TO PAGE
FOUR OF YOUR HAND OUT. WE'RE NOW
GOING TO PROVIDE SOME INSIGHTS
INTO- AND THE FUNDING THAT WAS
APPROPRIATED TO THE EQUAL ACCESS
FUND PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY FOR
THE FICTION AND HOUSING
PURPOSES- THE LAST FOUR MOST
RECENT BUDGET. TWO THOUSAND
NINETEEN TWENTY THREE TWO
THOUSAND TWENTY TWO TWENTY THREE
HAS INCLUDED FUNDING
SPECIFICALLY. FOR THESE
PURPOSES. THERE IS THERE HAS
ALSO BEEN ACCOMPANYING
PROVISIONAL BUDGET THE LANGUAGES
PER TRIP AS WELL AS TRAILER BILL
LANGUAGE DIRECTING HOW EACH OF
THOSE APPROPRIATIONS WERE TO BE
ALLOCATED. SPECIFICALLY THE
TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY THREE
AMOUNT WAS TO BE ALLOCATED AS-
COMPETITIVE GRANTS WELL THE
PRIOR THREE YEARS- WERE
ALLOCATED INTO KIND OF TWO
BUCKETS. THE FIRST BUCKET WAS
THAT 75% OF THE FUNDING WAS TO
BE DISTRIBUTED- KIND OF ON A PRO
RATA BASIS TO LEGAL SERVICES
PROVIDERS THAT ALREADY DID WORK
IN THIS SPACE. AND THAT WERE
ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THOSE
GENERAL USE- EQUAL ACCESS FUND
PROGRAMME GRANTS. THE REMAINING
25% WAS DISTRIBUTED AS
COMPETITIVE GRANTS TO PROVIDERS
THAT EFFECTIVELY WOULD PROVIDE
SERVICES THAT WEREN'T BEING MET
BY THAT FIRST ALLOCATION OF
FUNDING. SO IF YOU TURN TO PAGE
FIVE OF YOUR HAND OUT THIS PAGE
PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF THOSE
APPROPRIATIONS SINCE
SPECIFICALLY AS PART- OF THE
TWENTY TWENTY TO TWENTY THREE
BUDGET THIRTY MILLION AND
GENERAL FUND WAS MADE AVAILABLE.
AS PART OF THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE
TWENTY TWO BUDGET EIGHTY MILLION
AND FEDERAL FUNDS WAS
APPROPRIATED OVER THREE YEARS.
THAT'S PART OF THE TWENTY TWENTY
TWENTY ONE BUDGET THIRTY ONE
MILLION FROM THE NATIONAL
MORTGAGE THAT SPECIAL DEPOSIT
FUND WAS MADE AVAILABLE. AND
THEN FINALLY AS PART OF THE
TWENTY NINETEEN TWENTY BUDGET
TWENTY MILLION GENERAL FUND WAS
MADE AVAILABLE. ON THIS PAGE
YOU'LL SEE A STATUS UPDATE OF
THOSE ALLOCATIONS I'M NOT GOING
TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE IT'S HERE
FOR YOU AS A RESOURCE BUT JUST
AS A QUICK EXAMPLE IF YOU LOOK
AT THE SECOND BULLET. OF THE
EIGHTY MILLION AND FEDERAL
FUNDS- THAT WAS INCLUDED AS PART
OF THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE TWENTY
TWO BUDGET. ABOUT SEVENTY EIGHT
MILLION IS EXPECTED TO BE
AWARDED TO SEVENTY SEVEN LEGAL
PROVIDERS THAT CONSIST OF FIFTY
EIGHT POINT FIVE MILLION AND PRO
RATTA GRANTS TO SEVENTY FIVE
PROVIDERS AND NINETEEN POINT
FIVE MILLION AND COMPETITIVE
GRANTS. TO TWENTY THREE
PROVIDERS INTO THE REST OF THE
BULLETS JUST KIND OF SIMILARLY
PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION
FOR THE REST OF THE FUNDS.
TURNING TO PAGES. SIX AND SEVEN
OF YOUR HAND OUT. WE'RE GONNA
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
SHRIVER PROGRAM. WHICH WAS
CREATED IN TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN
TWELVE. THE PROGRAM PROVIDES
COMPETITIVE GRANTS TO PROJECTS
THAT PROVIDE LEGAL
REPRESENTATION FOR LOW INCOME.
INDIVIDUALS IN CIVIL MATTERS
GENERALLY- IN AREAS THAT. ARE
AFFECTING BASIC HUMAN NEEDS SO
THAT DOES INCLUDE HOUSING BUT
ALSO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE CHILD.
CUSTODY MATTERS. YES JUST ONE
QUESTION ON THE- PREVIOUS PAGE.
THE FUNDING- SPECIFICALLY
FRICTION HOUSING. IS THERE MORE
FEDERAL FUNDING. OR YOU CAN
ANSWER THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE. IS
THERE MORE FEDERAL FUNDING
COMING UP THAT WE'RE LIKELY TO
GET- SOON NOT NECESSARILY THAT
THAT WERE AWARE OF I MEAN THAT
SOME OF THE CERTAINLY SOMETHING
THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO I DO WANT
TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS MONEY
SPECIFICALLY FOR LEGAL
ASSISTANCE LEAGUE PLAN LEGAL
AID. FOR EXAMPLE THE OTHER
PORTION- OF YOU KNOW NATIONAL
MORTGAGE SETTLEMENT DOLLARS
THERE'S AND THERE'S MONEY IN
OTHER PLACES- FOR EXAMPLE
THROUGH HOUSING COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENTS LIKE SELF FOUR
MIGHT BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS
AND- TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU'RE
INTERESTED IN THAT I'M HAPPY TO
FOLLOW UP WITH MY COLLEAGUES AT
THE LA WHO COVERS THOSE ITEMS
AND CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU. YEAH I
WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WERE
OTHER THAN STATE FUNDS. ARE
THERE SO WHEN WE GET TO THE
LEGAL SERVICES CORPORATION AND
YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO VERY
APPROPRIATELY WHAT WE CAN TALK
ABOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP AS WELL-
IT IS SUPPLEMENTED BY SOME
FEDERAL DOLLARS WHICH WILL WILL
KIND OF GET. TO SHORTLY SORRY
THINKING YES- NOT A PROBLEM-
SOME REDIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION
- TO PAGES SIX AND SEVEN OF YOUR
HEAD OUT WE START TALKING A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCHREIBER
PROGRAM. THIS PROGRAM IS FUNDED
BY A SHARE OF CERTAIN CIVIL
FILING FEES RELATED TO POST
JUDGMENT ACTIVITIES. TO THE
TABLE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABLE
BEFORE YOU AND SPECIFICALLY AT
THE LAST LINE I WOULD JUST SAY
THAT IN TWENTY TWENTY TO TWENTY
THREE. ABOUT TWELVE POINT FOUR
MILLION WAS AWARDED TO SUPPORT
THIRTEEN PROJECTS. THAT
REPRESENTS THE PARTICIPATION OF
TEN COURTS AS WELL AS TWELVE
SERVICE PROVIDERS. OF THOSE
THIRTEEN PROJECTS FIVE OUR
HOUSING SPECIFIC PROJECTS. AND
THEN AN ADDITIONAL THREE
PROJECTS- HAVE A HOUSING RELATED
COMPONENT IT'S USUALLY PARTNERED
WITH SOMETHING ELSE. IF YOU TURN
TO PAGE EIGHT OF YOUR HAND OUT I
THINK MATT I'M SURE THIS IS.
MAYBE WHERE OF WHERE YOU'RE
THINKING AS WELL- WE'RE GOING
TO. PROVIDE SOME COMMENTS
RELATED TO THE ELEVEN LEGAL AID
ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVE SOME
OF THE STATE FUNDING. BUT THEY
ARE ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE LEGAL
SERVICES CORPORATION OR LLC. THE
LSE IS A NATIONAL INDEPENDENT
NONPROFIT ENTITY THAT ALLOCATES
FEDERAL FUNDING. TO LEGAL
SERVICES PROVIDERS ACROSS THE
NATION. THROUGH A COMPETITIVE
GRANT PROCESS- FOR THE PROVISION
OF LEGAL AID IN CIVIL ISSUE
AREAS INCLUDING HOUSING. ABOUT
9295% OF THAT FUNDING IS
GENERALLY PROVIDED SPECIFICALLY
FOR THE DIRECT DELIVERY OF LEGAL
ASSISTANCE FOR THE REMAINING
FUNDING IS TARGETED SOMETIMES
FOR PARTICULAR PURPOSES. WE
WOULD NOTE FOR YOU THAT AS A
CONDITION OF RECEIVING LSC
FUNDING THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS
FEDERAL LAW DOES PROHIBIT LEGAL
SERVICES PROVIDERS FROM ENGAGING
IN CERTAIN ACTIVITIES OR
REPRESENTING CERTAIN CLIENTS.
WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THAT
IS THOSE RESTRICTIONS SOMETIMES
NOT ONLY APPLY TO THE LSC THE
FEDERAL FUNDING IT ACTUALLY
APPLIES TO OTHER SOURCES OF
FUNDING THAT THEY RECEIVE YOU
KNOW FOR EXAMPLE STATE FUNDING
OR LIKE PRIVATE DONATION TYPE
FUNDING AND SO. ON THAT'S JUST
SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO FLAG
FOR THE COMMITTEE. YOU MEAN. IN
THE CIVIC AMOUNT IS NOT THE ONLY
THING RESTRICTED YEAH. AND
THAT'S SOME EARLIER ANY OTHER
MONTH THEY GET IS ALSO SIMILARLY
RESTRICTED IN DIFFERENT WAYS
THIS OF THEIR THEIR WHOLE LIST
OF KIND OF CONDITIONS AND I
THINK- YOUR NEXT PRESENTER WHO
IS GONNA BE WELL EQUIPPED TO
KIND OF TALK ABOUT THOSE
DISTINCTIONS. RELATED BUT IT IS
SOMETHING- FOR THE COMMITTEE
WHEN THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT
ALLOCATIONS OF FUNDING THAT FOR
THESE PARTICULAR PROVIDERS THERE
IS KIND OF THIS FEDERAL- ON
CONDITION THAT THEY DO NEED TO
COMPLY WITH. SO IF YOU TURN TO
PAGE NINE OF YOUR HAND OUT- THIS
PAGE SUMMARIZES- KIND OF THE
FUNDING LEVELS THAT GO TO THE
ELEVEN LEGAL SERVICES PROVIDERS
IN CALIFORNIA. IF YOU LOOK AT
THE TABLE BEFORE YOU YOU'LL SEE
ON THE TOP HALF. THAT THESE
PROVIDERS RECEIVE ANYWHERE
BETWEEN IN RECENT YEARS FORTY
FOUR TO JUST UNDER FIFTY MILLION
FROM THE LSE FROM FEDERAL FUNDS.
THEN YOU ALSO SEE A- TOWARDS THE
BOTTOM ANOTHER LINE THAT
SUMMARIZES THAT THEY DO GET
ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM OTHER
SOURCES THAT DOES INCLUDE THE
STATE SO FOR EXAMPLE FROM THE
EQUAL ACCESS FUND PROGRAM. BUT
ALSO OTHER PLACES FOR EXAMPLE
PRIVATE DONATIONS. IN TWENTY
TWENTY ONE CALIFORNIA'S ELEVEN
LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDERS REPORTED
CLOSING SIXTY ONE THOUSAND TWO
HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX CASES. OF
WHICH ABOUT HALF WERE RELATED TO
HOUSING. IF YOU TURN TO PAGE TEN
OF YOUR HAND OUT- THE COMMITTEE
WAS INTERESTED IN AND WHAT
PORTION OF THAT STATE FUNDING
THAT I TALKED ABOUT FROM THE
EQUAL ACCESS FUND AS WELL AS A
DRIVER PROGRAMS. THAT WERE
SPECIFICALLY- AWARDED TO THE
LEGAL SERVICE AT THE LEGAL AID
ORGANIZATIONS AND THIS PAGE
SUMMARIZES THAT. THE TABLE AT
THE TOP SUMMARIZES THE AMOUNT OF
FUNDING THAT COMES FROM THOSE
GENERAL USE ALLOCATIONS AND SO
YOU CAN SEE IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE
TWENTY TWO. I WAS ABOUT TWENTY
FOUR MILLION DOLLARS. THE SECOND
BULLET ON THE PAGE PROVIDES A
SUMMARY OF THOSE SPECIFIC
ALLOCATIONS RELATED TO ADDICTION
AND- HOUSING- DOLLARS THAT WERE
SET ASIDE. THE AMOUNTS AWARDED
KIND OF VARIED- BUT FOR EXAMPLE
IN AS- OF THE MONEY THAT WAS
MADE AVAILABLE AS PART OF THE
TWENTY TWENTY TO TWENTY THREE
BUDGET. THE LEGAL AID PROVIDERS
RECEIVED ABOUT 17% OF THAT. AND
THAT- IN CONTRAST IN AS PART OF
THE MONEY IS MADE AVAILABLE AS
PART OF THE TWENTY NINETEEN
TWENTY BUDGET HE RECEIVED ABOUT
45% OF THEM- MOVING TO THE VERY
LAST TO BULLETS ON THIS PAGE.
FIVE OF THE LEGAL AID- SO
SERVICE PROVIDERS CURRENTLY
PARTICIPATE AND TREVOR PROGRAMS
FOR. OUR IN HOUSING SPECIFIC
PROJECTS AND ONE IN A HOUSING
AND CHILD CUSTODY PROJECT AND SO
THAT KIND OF SUMMARIZES THEIR-
INVOLVEMENT. CAN TO THE FINAL
PAGE OF YOUR HANDOUT PAGE
ELEVEN. I'M GOING TO CONCLUDE
OUR- COMMENTS BY HIGHLIGHTING
THE TRIAL COURT SELF HELP
CENTERS EVERY TRIAL COURT HAS A
SELF HELP CENTER. THAT SERVES AS
A CENTRAL NEXUS FOR SELF
REPRESENTED INDIVIDUALS TO COME
AND EDUCATE THEMSELVES BUT ALSO
TO SEEK ASSISTANCE FOR
NAVIGATING COURT PROCESS THESE
PREDOMINANTLY IN CIVIL AREAS.
BUT THAT DOES INCLUDE HOUSING.
THE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED BY
ATTORNEYS AND TRAIN PERSONNEL IN
A VARIETY OF WAYS THEY CAN RANGE
FROM ONE ON ONE ASSISTANCE. TO
WORKSHOPS. THE BUDGETS IN RECENT
YEARS HAVE INCLUDED FUNDING TO
SUPPORT THE SELF HELP CENTERS
SPECIFICALLY IN TWENTY TWENTY
TWENTY THREE AS PART OF THE
BUDGET THERE IS INCLUSION OF
ABOUT THIRTY POINT THREE
MILLION. NINETEEN POINT ONE
MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND
AND ELEVEN POINT TWO MILLION
FROM TO JUDICIAL BRANCH SPECIAL
FUNDS. SO MORTGAGE WILL CONCLUDE
OUR COMMENTS THERE BUT ARE HAPPY
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MISLI- YES. MISS
REGATTA. GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME
IS JULIE AGILA ROBOTO AND I'M AN
ATTORNEY AND DEPUTY DIRECTOR
LEGAL SERVICES OF NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA AND WE ARE THE- ONLY
PROGRAM FOR TWENTY THREE
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA COUNTIES. WE
ARE AN LSC GRANTEES ONE OF THE
ELEVEN IN CALIFORNIA WE ALSO
RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE FULL
ACCESS FUND AS WELL AS I'LL TO
FUNDS TO THE STATE BAR. AND WE
HAVE ALSO BENEFITED FROM IT THAT
SPECIALIZE HOUSING FUNDS HAVE
BEEN ALLOCATED FROM THE STATE
AND HAVE HELPED US TO ADDRESS
THE- URGENT HOUSING ISSUES OUR
CLIENTS THROUGHOUT OUR SERVICE
AREA WE HAD EIGHT FIELD OFFICES
OPERATING IN THAT SERVICE AREA
AND- R. TWENTY THREE COUNTIES GO
FROM SACRAMENTO EAST. TO THE
NEVADA BORDER NORTH TO OR AGAIN
AND WE ALSO COVER THAT THE
COAST- THE MOST NORTHERN PART OF
THE COAST I WE SERVE ABOUT AT
TEN THOUSAND INDIVIDUAL CLIENTS
PER YEAR. AND THAT VARIES UP AND
DOWN CERTAINLY DURING THE
PANDEMIC COULD CHANGE A LITTLE
BIT BUT THAT'S GENERALLY WHERE
FOR HOVERING AND- BETWEEN TWENTY
TWELVE AND TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
THE PROPORTION OF CASES THAT WE
HANDLE THAT ARE CENTERED ON
HOUSING AND MOSTLY AFFECTIONS
WENT FROM 47% 267% ON A HUGE
LEAP AND IT REALLY TRACK TO THE
HOUSING CRISIS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA OVER THESE YEARS. AND
ANOTHER VERY STARTLING- ISSUE
THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH IS THE
FACT THAT IN EITHER ACTUALLY
MATTERS WHERE IT USED TO BE THAT
OUR CLIENTS WOULD BE- EVICTED
AND MOVE ON TO OTHER HOUSING.
IT'S NOW AT THIS VERY URGENT AND
REAL RISK OF HOMELESSNESS THAT
GOES ALONG WITH AN EVICTION AND
SO THAT HAS A BROADER GREAT
URGENCY TO THIS WORK- WE HAVE.
BEEN BEEN FAULT IN THIS OR
PROJECTS IT WAS A- WE ARE ONE OF
THE FIVE PROGRAMS- THAT HAVE I
HOUSING CENTERED PROJECT THAT
WERE STILL OPERATING AND THAT IS
IN YOLO COUNTY. AND IN YOLO
COUNTY I'M JUST TO- GIVE SOME
MORE SPECIFIC DATA ABOUT US KIND
OF A SMALL SERVICE AREA WITHIN
OUR LARGER SERVICE AREA. THEY
SAW A HUGE LEAP AND AFFECTIONS I
BETWEEN TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND
TWENTY TWENTY TWO FROM TWO
HUNDRED AND EIGHT WHICH IS NOT A
LOT AND IT'S A SMALL COUNTY-
JUMPING IN 202-225-1040 SIX. SO
ADDED DEMAND DOUBLE TO THEIR AND
THE EXPECTATION IS IT WILL
DOUBLE AGAIN THE COURT- THAT IS
A PARTNER WITH US IN THAT
PROJECT IN YOLO COUNTY HAS ADDED
AN ADDITIONAL COURT DAY T. HERE
UNLAWFUL DETAINER MATTERS
BECAUSE OF THAT EXPECTED DEMAND
IN AND THAT CALENDAR IS FILLING.
SO SIMILARLY IN SACRAMENTO
COUNTY WE SAW THAT DOUBLING
BETWEEN TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND
TWENTY TWENTY TWO AND AGAIN IT
CONTINUES TO SEARCH IN THE FIRST
QUARTER AND SO WE CONTINUE TO
TRY TO RESPOND TO THAT- WE- IN
ADDITION TO OUR SHRIVER PROJECT.
WE HAVE USED THAT FUNDING THAT
WE RECEIVE FROM THE STATE AND
THAT THE ENHANCED EQUAL ACCESS
FUNDS- WHICH HAVE BEEN
INCREDIBLY HELPFUL AS WELL AS
THE HOUSING SPECIFIC FUNDS. TO
DO SOME VERY TARGETED HOUSING
FOCUSED WORK- MOSTLY WE HAVE
BEEN TRYING TO INCREASE OUR
RECRUITMENT OF ATTORNEYS TO
ENSURE THAT WE HAD ENOUGH-
STAFFING TO PROVIDE THAT DIRECT
REPRESENTATION. AND COVERING A
SURFACE AREA LIKE OURS AGAIN
TWENTY THREE COUNTIES THAT SOUND
AT TWENTY TWO COURTS AND THAT IS
VERY DIFFICULT TO DO WITH ONLY
ABOUT FIFTY ATTORNEYS WHICH IS
WHAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE SOME
SPECIAL CHALLENGES- COMPARED
WITH OUR OUR COLLEAGUES TO SERVE
MORE URBAN AREAS- WE HAVE
DIFFICULTY RECRUITING BECAUSE
OUR BAR IN THESE RURAL AREAS IS
MUCH SMALLER THAN AND- URBAN
AREAS LIKE LOS ANGELES THE BAY
AREA. AS SIMILARLY LAW SCHOOL
GRADUATES ARE LESS INCLINED TO
PACK UP AND MOVE TO- RURAL
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA ADD TO IT TO
DO REALLY HEAVY LITIGATION AN
EVICTION DEFENSE WORK SO WHAT WE
HAVE CENTERED ON RECRUITING AND
USE THOSE FUNDS TO HIRE
ADDITIONAL ATTORNEYS. WE'VE
ALSO- I'M CREATED FOR WHAT FOR
US IS AN EXCEPTION TO OUR-
GENERALIST MODEL OF PROVIDING
LEGAL SERVICES AND WE HAVE
CREATED AN EVICTION DEFENSE
PROJECT. AND IN THAT PROJECT WE
HAVE ATTORNEYS WHO ARE BASED IN
SACRAMENTO AND IN VALLEJO INTO
OF OUR OFFICES WHO ACTUALLY WORK
EXCLUSIVELY AND I. COUNTIES SO
THEY'RE COVERING THE RURAL AREAS
WHERE SOME OF THOSE OFFICES ONLY
HAVE ONE OR TWO ATTORNEYS AND
REALLY CAN'T TO ADEQUATELY
ADDRESS THE DEMAND THERE- SO. WE
SEE THAT THERE ARE TWO A- WHERE
- BUT WITH TENANTS REALLY I DO
HELP ONE RIGHT. WHICH THAT
SHRIVER PROJECTS DEMONSTRATED
MAKES A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN
TERMS OF OUTCOMES- RESULTING IN
MANY MORE SETTLEMENTS THAT GIVE
PEOPLE A SOFT LANDING ALLOW THEM
INTO OTHER HOUSING WITHOUT AN
EVICTION ON THEIR RECORD- AS
WELL AS HELPING PEOPLE NAVIGATE
THE PROCESS WHEN THEY DO HAVE
STRONG DEFENSES AND TO WIN THEIR
CASES- BUT ON THE OTHER HAND.
THERE ARE IMPORTANT PROTECTIONS
LIKE THE TENANT PROTECTION ACT
THAT HAS GONE INTO EFFECT
CERTAINLY THE KOBE AD RELATED
PROTECTIONS THAT HAVE NATURALLY
EXPIRED IN THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE
THAT MADE A TREMENDOUS
DIFFERENCE FOR TENANTS. AND WE
THINK THAT BOTH REPRESENTATION
AND THOSE TENANT PROTECTIONS ARE
GOING TO BE VITAL AND TO THE
TENANT PROTECTIONS ARE REALLY
ONLY WORTHWHILE IF THERE ARE
ATTORNEYS TO ENFORCE THEM AND
PROVIDING DIRECT REPRESENTATION
TO CLIENTS. AND WE'VE SEEN IN
OUR RURAL AREAS ESPECIALLY WHERE
WE CAN GO AND REPRESENT A TENDON
AND- BRING UP ISSUES LIKE. FOR
EXAMPLE NO FAULT. RESENT F. THAT
ARE PERMITTED UNDER THE T. P.
EIGHT FIVE ARE SOMETIMES NOT
LEGITIMATE WHERE WE CAN
CHALLENGE THOSE AND PROVIDE
COUNSEL THERE WE GET A GOOD
OUTCOME WE EDUCATE THE BENCH AND
UNREPRESENTED LITIGANTS WERE
COMING BEHIND THOSE WE CAN'T
HELP. ARE BENEFITING FROM THAT
EDUCATION OF THE BENCH WHERE
THAT THE JUDGES ARE
UNDERSTANDING THE TENANT
PROTECTION ACT WHAT IT WAS
INTENDED TO ACCOMPLISH AND ARE
APPLYING THE LAW CORRECTLY FOR
THE SAN REPRESENTED FOLKS THAT
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY
TO ASSIST. OF AYE THANK YOU FOR
YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
I'M VERY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT BEING A
LEGAL SERVICES CORPORATION
GRANTEE- OR ANYTHING RELATED TO
THAT STATE FUNDING WHICH WE
APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH. THIS IS A
QUICK QUESTION ON ON THE VIXENS
AND- REMAINING ON THE OR
SOMEONE'S RECORD. YES IS THAT AT
WHAT POINT DOES I GO ON YOUR
RECORD. THE FIRST STEP. OF
GETTING EVICTED OR IF IT'S
SUCCESSFUL. HOW DO YOU. SET WITH
AN INITIAL FILING THERE'S A
MASKING PERIOD AND SO WHEN A
LANDLORD FILED AN EVICTION IT
ISN'T IMMEDIATELY GOING ON THE
ATTENDANCE RECORD. THEY HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THE
PROCESS AND ANSWER THE AFFECTION
OR OTHERWISE FILE A RESPONSIVE
PLEADING. AND UNTIL A JUDGMENT
IS ENTERED- IT WILL NOT APPEAR
OFFICIALLY ON THEIR RECORD ON
THERE ARE SOME BACKDOOR WAYS
SAID- THAT REPORTING AGENCIES
FIND TO LEARN ABOUT THAT
INFORMATION BUT GENERALLY IT
SEALED UNTIL THAT POINT. SO THE
SETTLEMENTS ARE INCREDIBLY
VALUABLE WHERE AN ATTORNEY CAN
WORK WITH. THERE ARE OUR CLIENTS
AND ADDS THE OPPOSING PARTY IS
AT COUNCIL AND- USUALLY THAT
WILL RESULT IN A MOVE OUT WHICH
IS UNFORTUNATE NOT NOT IDEAL FOR
THE TENANT BUT- IT CAN PROVIDE
THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE
FUNDS TO PUT THEM SECURITY
DEPOSIT IN A IN A NEW. PLACE AND
ALSO TO NOT HAVE THAT EFFECT ON
THE RECORD AS THEY MAKE
APPLICATIONS FOR OTHER HOUSING
AND AT THIS TIME WHERE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SO RARE.
TO FIND IF YOU HAVE AN INFECTION
ON YOUR RECORD IT'S REALLY
NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO LEASE UP
AGAIN SO- THAT THAT IS
INCREDIBLY VITAL TO BE ABLE TO
DO THOSE KIND OF SETTLEMENTS TO
PROTECT THAT CREDIT RATING AND
THAT THAT REPORTS THAT LANDLORDS
ARE. GONNA BE LOOKING AT AS
PEOPLE MAKE APPLICATIONS. THANK
VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK TO.
PERSONAL SAY HERE HERE.
WONDERFUL MY NAME IS ADAM MARIE
I AM THE EXECUTIVE TIME THAT
CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AT INNER
CITY LAW CENTER WHICH IS LOCATED
IN THE SKID ROW NEIGHBORHOOD IN
LOS ANGELES. FOR THE PAST FORTY
YEARS WE PROVIDE BEEN PROVIDING
FREE LEGAL SERVICES TO PEOPLE
THROUGHOUT LA COUNTY- WE HAVE A
HUNDRED THIRTY STAFF INCLUDING
SIXTY SEVEN ATTORNEYS. HUNDREDS
OF VOLUNTEERS AND ALL OF OUR
WORK FOCUSES ON HOUSING AND
HOMELESSNESS. BEFORE I SEE A FEW
PARTICULAR WORD ABOUT OUR OUR
SPECIFIC WORK. I JUST WANT TO
NOTE THAT WHILE HOMELESSNESS IS
A VERY COMPLEX OBVIOUSLY A
MULTIFACETED ISSUES AS YOU ALL
KNOW VERY WELL AND IT'S ROOTED
IS QUITE SIMPLE. WE HAVE A
HOMELESS CRISIS IN CALIFORNIA
BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOUSING
AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN
CALIFORNIA. IN THE CITY IS
STARTING THE COUNTY OF LOS
ANGELES THE MEDIAN RENTS IN THE
LAST FIFTEEN YEARS. HAS
INCREASED BY 54% AND THE MEDIAN
RENTER INCOME HAS ONLY INCREASED
BY SIXTEEN PERCENT. THAT
DISCONNECT BETWEEN RENTS GOING
UP AND INCOMES NOT GOING UP
NEARLY AS QUICKLY. MORE THAN ANY
OTHER REASON MORE THAN EVERY
OTHER REASON PUT TOGETHER IS WHY
WE HAVE A HOMELESS CRISIS IN THE
STATE. AND IF WE ARE GOING TO
SOLVE OUR HOMELESS CRISIS WE
HAVE TO ATTACK THE PROBLEM FROM
BOTH ENDS WE HAVE TO BOTH
INCREASE INCOMES. AND WE HAVE TO
WORK ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY
THE CENTER THERE ALSO I KNOW YOU
SPENT MUCH OF YOUR CAREER-
WORKING ON TRYING TO INCREASE
INCOMES FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES.
AND WORKERS. AND INNER CITY LAW
CENTER WE TACKLE THE SAME
PROBLEM FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE
WE FOCUS ON PEOPLE WHO ARE ON
THE STREETS. LARGELY WHO ARE
STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES WHO SHOULD BE CONNECTED
WITH VARIOUS PUBLIC BENEFITS
PROGRAMS AND ARE NOT. SO CENTER
NEWMAN I THINK IN PARTICULAR ARE
WORK WITH HOMELESS VETERANS WILL
PROBABLY BE OF INTEREST TO YOU-
WAIT WE SERVE VETERANS WHO ARE
MOSTLY- STRUGGLING WITH A
DRAMATIC BRAIN INJURIES OR POST
MAX STRESS. THEY HAVE SOUGHT TO
ACCESS VA BENEFITS AND BEEN
DENIED AND WE APPEAL THE DENIAL
OF THOSE BENEFITS. WE WIN 95% OF
THOSE APPEALS. LAST YEAR WE
RECOVERED THREE POINT NINE
MILLION DOLLARS. FOR HOMELESS
VETERANS CLIENTS. ALMOST AND
CLIENTS. AND WHEN YOU WERE WHEN
YOU REALIZED THAT IN A THE LAW
CENTER'S CLIENTS. THE 44% OUR
CLIENTS. LIVE ON HOUSEHOLD. THAT
ARE. THE DOLLARS A YEAR OR- SO.
SINGLE ONE OF THOSE DOLLARS IN
THAT THREE POINT NINE MILLION
DOLLARS IS DIRECTLY IMPACTING
HOUSING STABILITY. FOR OUR
CLIENTS- I WOULD BE REMISS BEING
HERE IN SACRAMENTO I THANK YOU
FOR HAVING ME. IF I DID NOT ALSO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE SOME
BILLS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT
THE SESSION. THAT ALSO TACKLE
HOUSING AFFORDABILITY FROM THAT
SIDE OF THINGS AND IN PARTICULAR
I WANT TO CALL OUT AS BEFORE. SB
FOUR TWENTY THREE AS TWO BILLS
THAT INNER CITY LAWCENTER
STRONGLY SUPPORTING AND
ENCOURAGE YOU SUPPORT AS WELL.
BUT I WANT TO FOCUS MOST OF MY
WORK REMARKS ON. THE ELECTION
PROCESS AND THE ELECTION WORK
THAT WE DO. AND WHAT WE ARE
SEEING IN LOS ANGELES.
UNFORTUNATELY AS YOU'VE ALREADY
HEARD- IN THE IF THE PROTECTIONS
JUST EXPIRED AT THE END OF MARCH
AND IN LOS ANGELES IN ALREADY.
EVICTIONS ARE SHOOTING BACK UP-
I THINK- WELL AS YOU'VE HEARD
IT'S CORRECT WE ARE NOT YET BACK
QUITE TO PRIOR LEVELS I THINK
WE'RE GOING TO QUICKLY GET THERE
IN THE BIG QUESTION MARK IS
WITHOUT WE BLOW PAST THAT AND
KEEP GOING. OVER THAT WE JUST
CAME OUT TO LEVEL THE RAP
BEFORE. BUT REGARDLESS WE'RE
GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE
UNFORTUNATELY IS A HUGE
DISCONNECT. BETWEEN WHO HAS
REPRESENTATION IN THOSE CASES
AND WHO DOES NOT. SOLICITOUS OF
THAT I'M AWARE OF ARE THAT 88%
OF LANDLORDS IN COUNTY LOS
ANGELES HAVE REPRESENTATION. AND
LESS THAN 10% OF TENANTS WHO ARE
FACING EVICTION HAVE
REPRESENTATION. AND THAT HAS
HUGE CONSEQUENCES. FOR WHAT
HAPPENS IN THOSE CASES. BECAUSE
LAWYERS MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE
PRE COVED. OUT WE DO INNER CITY
LAW CENTER A LITTLE OVER. EIGHT
HUNDRED ACTION CASES A YEAR. PRE
KOVIN. JUST OVER FORTY PER OF
THOSE CASES WE WERE ABLE STOP
ADDICTION. AND ACTUALLY KEEP
THE- IN THE HOMES- AND AS YOU
HEARD. ON JUST A MOMENT AGO FROM
OUR COLLEAGUES IN NORTHERN
COOPER CALLING NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA. IT'S OFTEN IN THE
CASES WERE NOT STOPPING THE
EVICTION WITH THE HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION ACTUALLY OCCURS. JUST
AS STRONGLY. ARE YOU THERE CAN
BE A SOFT LANDING FOR THAT
FAMILY. IF THEY HAVE TIME IF THE
RECORD CAN BE SEALED- WAVED
BRANDS YOU KNOW RELOCATION
BENEFITS ALL THOSE SORTS OF
THINGS. IS OFTEN REALLY CRUCIAL
TO KEEPING PEOPLE. IN THEIR
HOUSING ALSO IN THE CASES
VERTICALLY MORE ABLE TO KEEP
FAMILIES IN THEIR HOUSING- IT
REALLY BOLSTERS NEIGHBORHOOD
STABILITY COMMUNITY STABILITY.
MY KIDS CAN STAY IN THEIR
SCHOOLS. PARENTS CAN CONTINUE
GOING TO THE SAME JOBS- THIS
HUGE UPSIDE. AND IT HAPPENS AT A
STAGE. BUT IT'S HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION RATHER THAN
ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS ONCE A
FAMILY HAS BECOME HOMELESS. SO
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY
ENCOURAGE YOU. NOT JUST IN THIS
CONVERSATION BUT MORE GENERALLY
SENATORS TO REALLY BE LOOKING
OUT FOR WHAT CAN WE DO TO
BOLSTER THE HOUSING STABILITY OF
PRECARIOUSLY HOUSED FAMILIES. SO
THAT THEY ARE NOT BECOMING
HOMELESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. ON
THE MORE WE CAN DO THERE IT'S
MORE HUMANE IT'S MORE COST
EFFECTIVE IN DEALING WITH THE
PROBLEM ONCE. THE FAMILY HAS
ENDED UP ON THE STREETS- I WANT
TO CLOSE MY REMARKS IF I MAY I'M
I'M HAPPY AS YOU PROBABLY
ALREADY FIGURED OUT FOR ME TO
KEEP TALKING FOREVER. BUT I WILL
BE BRIEF HERE I WANNA CLOSE MY
REMARKS JUST A COUPLE STORIES.
OF OUR CASES RECENT CASES THAT
WE'VE HAD BUT I THINK REALLY
ILLUSTRATE- THE WORK THAT WE DO.
AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE
FUNDING THE LEGISLATURE PROVIDES
FOR OUR WORK. THE FIRST CASE
INVOLVES AN ELDERLY COUPLE WHO
WERE RENTING A FOR OVER TWENTY
YEARS- THE SAME UNIT IN LONG
BEACH. ARE THEY PASSED
SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW MARKET RATE
OF SIX HUNDRED SIXTY DOLLARS A
MONTH. ON A ON A FIXED INCOME SO
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THEY CAN
AFFORD. A NEW OWNER CAME IN LAST
NOVEMBER- BOUGHT THE BUILDING
AND EARLY THIS YEAR. THEY
RECEIVED A SIXTY DAY NOTICE THAT
THEY HAD TO MOVE OUT. BECAUSE
THE OWNER SAID HE WAS GOING TO
DO SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATIONS. TO
THE APARTMENT. LIKELY THAT
FAMILY CAME TO US. AND WE TOOK A
LOOK. AT WHAT. THE OWNER
PROPOSING TO DO. WAS CLEAR THAT
THESE WERE NO. SUBSTANTIAL
ENOUGH. AS BY THE LONG BEACH
MISSPOKE COAT- WE INFORM THE
LANDLORD'S ATTORNEY OF THAT AND
THEY AGREED TO RESCIND THE
NOTICE. THIS IS NOT A CASE THAT
WOULD EVEN HAVE SHOWN UP IN THE
UNLAWFUL DETAINER STATISTICS.
UNLAWFUL DETAINER WAS NEVER
FILED. BECAUSE THE WITH A LAWYER
AVAILABLE. TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE
BEFORE IT GOT TO THAT STAGE. THE
SECOND CASE THE HIGHLIGHTS
ANOTHER VERY RECENT CASE FOR US.
INVOLVING A WOMAN- WHO MOVED IN
WITH HER SISTER A LITTLE OVER
TEN YEARS AGO IN THE ECHO PARK
NEIGHBORHOOD OF LOS ANGELES.
AND- JUST RECENTLY THE OWNER HAS
DECIDED THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE
PAYING A BELOW MARKET RENT I
DON'T KNOW PRECISELY WHAT THAT
RATE IS BUT SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW
MARKET. THAT HE WANTS TO EVICT
THEM AND SO HE ALLEGED THAT THE
SISTER WHO MOVED IN- IS AN
UNAUTHORIZED OCCUPANT. THIS WAS
WHEN WE WERE NOT ABLE TO
RESOLVE- BEFORE TRIAL AND SHE
HAD TO GO TO TRIAL IN THIS
MATTER WE HAD MULTIPLE
WITNESSES. WHO CLEARLY TESTIFY
THE OWNER KNEW. BOTH SISTERS
WERE LIVING AT THE APARTMENT HE
ACTUALLY RECEIVED RENT FROM BOTH
SISTERS. HE'D BEEN IN THE
APARTMENT WITH BOTH SISTERS
MULTIPLE TIMES. AND THE JURY
UNANIMOUSLY AGREED THAT THIS WAS
NOT AN AUTHORIZED DOCUMENT AND
THAT. SISTER STILL REMAINS IN
THEIR HOME AS WELL. ONE LAST.
EXAMPLE GIVE YOU. IS A CASE THAT
WAS REFERRED TO US FROM THE
DOWNTOWN WOMEN'S CENTER WHICH IS
ONE OF OUR GREAT PARTNERS. IN
SKID ROW NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE DO
A LOT OF OUR WORK- WHO CALLED US
BECAUSE THEY HAD A TEMPORARY
VOUCHER FOR. A WOMAN WITH THREE
KIDS I WAS IN A TWO BEDROOM
APARTMENT THAT THEY RUN OUT HERE
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN THE
VOUCHER WAS EXPIRING. AND THEY
HAD MANAGED TO WORK WITH HER AND
WITH THE- WITH THE TENANTS. AND
WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO
GET A MORE PERMANENT BELCHER.
BUT THE PERMANENT DENTURE ONLY
RECOGNIZED HER AS HAVING ONE
CHILD RATHER THAN THREE
CHILDREN. AND THEREFORE SHE WAS
NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE TWO BEDROOM
UNIT WHERE SHE WAS LIVING. AND
DOWNTOWN WOMEN'S CENTER AND WAS
HAVING TROUBLE TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE THEY
CALLED US WE GOT INVOLVED. AND
WE FIGURED OUT WE TALKED TO
HOUSING AUTHORITY IS THE EX
HUSBAND. ALSO HAD A VOUCHER- AND
HE WAS CLAIMING THE TWO OTHER
KIDS ON HIS VOUCHER. DESPITE THE
FACT THAT THERE WAS A
RESTRAINING ORDER. THAT REQUIRED
HIM TO GO NOWHERE NEAR THOSE
CHILDREN. ONCE WE ESTABLISH THAT
FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. THEY
ISSUED A DIFFERENT VOUCHER AND
SHE WAS ABLE TO STAY IN THE
DOWNTOWN WOMEN'S. CENTER
APARTMENT WHICH NOT ONLY MEANT
THAT SHE HAD AN APPROPRIATE
APARTMENT FOR FAMILY. BUT ALSO
MEANT THAT THE FAMILY AND THE
KIDS. AND MOM WERE ABLE TO
ACCESS ALL THE SERVICES THE
DOWNTOWN WOMEN'S CENTER.
PROVIDES SO THESE ARE JUST SOME
EXAMPLES OF THE WORK THAT THE
FUNDING OF THE LEGISLATURE MAKES
POSSIBLE INTERCITY LAWCENTER AND
OTHER LEGAL SERVICES AROUND THE
STATE- AND SOMEONE THANK YOU.
FOR THAT SUPPORT. I REALLY
ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE SORT OF
FUNDING. IF THIS IS THE SORT OF
HOUSING. STABILITY THAT THAT YOU
MAKE POSSIBLE. I YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. OF YOU SHARING THOSE
. BY MORE- X. ENGAGE. WITH THOSE
. INDIVIDUALS THANK YOU. YES
GOOD AFTERNOON CHURCH ROUTE
SEVEN SENATOR NEWMAN MY NAME IS
NICK AKERS. AND I SERVICE THE
SENIOR ASSISTANT ATTORNEY
GENERAL FOR THE CONSUMER
PROTECTION SECTION OF THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE. PERCEPTION IS A BROAD
MANDATE TO PROTECT CALIFORNIANS
AGAINST VIOLATIONS OF STATE AND
FEDERAL CONSUMER PROTECTION AND
PRIVACY LAWS WE DO THIS BY
INVESTIGATING AND PROSECUTING
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. IN THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S INDEPENDENT
CAPACITY IN THE NAME OF THE
PEOPLE OF THE STATE WE ALSO DO
RELATED LEGAL WORK AND POLICY
WORK INCLUDING FILING APPELLATE
BECAUSE BRIEFS. IN ORDER TO
PROTECT AN ADVANCE CONSUMER
PROTECTION LAWS. OUR PRIMARY
CIVIL ENFORCEMENT TOOLS THE
UNFAIR COMPETITION LAW WHICH
YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH I'M SURE
SECTION SEVENTEEN TWO HUNDRED
OVER BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS
CODE. WHICH ALLOWS US TO PURSUE
UNLAWFUL FRAUDULENT AND UNFAIR
BUSINESS ACTIONS- INTO A TEN
INJUNCTIONS TO STOP MISCONDUCT
INTERESTS RECURRENCE OF CIVIL
PENALTIES AND RESTITUTION. FOR
FOR VICTIMS. THIS WORK IS ALL
FUNDING- PROPOSITION SIXTY FOUR
OF TWO THOUSAND FOUR REQUIRED
CIVIL PENALTIES RECOVERED
INTERACTIONS TO BE USED TO SELF
FUND. THAT CONSUMER PROTECTION
WORK AT THE STATE LEVEL- AND SO
WE HAVE A RELIABLE FUNDING
SOURCE FOR THIS WORK. OUT WELL
RECEIVE TIPS AND LEADS FROM A
NUMBER OF SOURCES INCLUDING
COMPLAINTS DIRECTLY TO OUR
OFFICE AND REFERRALS FROM SISTER
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND REGULATORY
AGENCIES. MANY OF OUR MOST
SIGNIFICANT CONSUMER PROTECTIONS
HAVE BEEN THE RESULT IS PERCENT
CONSUMER PROTECTION CASES. HAVE
BEEN THE RESULT OF LEADS FROM
OUR PARTNERS IN THE LEGAL AID IN
AG ADVOCACY COMMUNITY INCLUDING
THE ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTED
HERE TODAY. BUT THE TIPS THAT
THEY SHARE REGARDING BAD ACTORS
THE ASSISTANCE THAT THEY
PROVIDING CONNECTING US WITH
VICTIMS AND WITNESSES. AND THE
INSIGHTS THAT THEY SHARE
REGARDING EMERGENCY EMERGING
CONSUMER PROTECTION ISSUES ARE
AN ESSENTIAL. SOURCE OF
INFORMATION FOR OUR OFFICE.
UNFORTUNATELY ARE. AND WE
THEREFORE TRY TO PHONE THEM ON
CASES THAT INVOLVE ISSUES ARE
TARGETS THAT ARE OF WIDESPREAD
IMPORTANCE. AS WELL AS CASES
INVOLVING THE PROTECTION OF
VULNERABLE CALIFORNIANS. THIS IS
INCLUDED IN FORTUNATE ACTIONS
AGAINST PREDATORY LENDERS AND
FOR PROFIT COLLEGES ABUSIVE DEBT
COLLECTORS. TELEMARKETERS THAT
IGNORE DO NOT CALL LAWS
RETAILERS THAT RIPOFF SERVICE
MEMBERS IN IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITIES. AND COMPANIES THAT
HAVE DISTRIBUTED OPIOIDS ILLEGAL
WEAPONS ACROSS OUR STATE. BUT A
PRESENT OUR WORK ALSO INCLUDES A
SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF ONGOING
INVESTIGATIONS. INTO VIOLATIONS
OF THE RIGHTS OF TENANTS. WELL
WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO
DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF THOSE
ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS WE CAN
CONFIRM THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY-
INVESTIGATING CASES INVOLVING
PRE TEXTUAL EVICTIONS AND LEGAL
RENT INCREASES UNDER THE DATA
PROTECTION ACTS. A TENANT
SCREENING ISSUES HABITABILITY
ISSUES AND FAILURES TO REPAIR
AND A RANGE OF OTHER VIOLATIONS
OF STATE TENANTS RIGHTS LAWS. IN
ADDITION TO OUR INVESTIGATIVE
WORKER OFFICES ALSO ISSUED A
BULLETIN TO POLICE AND SHERIFFS
ACROSS THE STATE. PROVIDING
LEGAL GUIDANCE ON STEPS LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SHOULD TAKE
TO PREVENT AND RESPOND TO
UNLAWFUL LOCKOUTS BY LANDLORDS.
AND OTHER FORMS OF SELF HELP
ADDICTIONS. WE ALSO WISH A
SERIES OF EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS
INCLUDING CONSUMER ALERTS
ADVISING TENANTS OF THEIR RIGHTS
AND PROTECTIONS AND UNDER THE
TENANT PROTECTION ACT. AND
PROVIDING RESOURCES FOR TENANTS
FACING UTILITY SHUT OFFS. I'D
ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT TO PRIOR
ACTIONS THAT OUR OFFICE TOOK
RELATING TO TENANTS RIGHTS THE
FIRST IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE OUR
OFFICE OBTAINED A THREE POINT
FIVE MILLION DOLLAR JUDGMENT.
AGAINST A REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT
COMPANY WHICH WOULD. THAT
UNLAWFULLY INFECTED TENANTS FROM
HOMES IT PURCHASED IT FOR
CLOSURE OPTIONS. ARE LAWSUIT
ALLEGED THAT WHICH WOULD DEPRIVE
TENANTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO STAY
IN HOMES UNDER PRE EXISTING
LEASE TERMS- AND UNDER STATUTORY
PROTECTIONS THAT IT EVICTED
TENANTS WITHOUT CAUSE AND RENT
CONTROL JURISDICTIONS. AND IT
MADE FALSE STATEMENTS IN COURT
FILINGS THE JUDGMENT ALSO
INCLUDED INJUNCTIVE TERMS
REQUIRING THE COMPANY TO REFORM
ITS BUSINESS PRACTICES. AND TO
COMPLY WITH THE LAW. AND IN
TWENTY SIXTEEN OUR OFFICE
OBTAINED A STIPULATED JUDGMENT
AGAINST LINCOLN MILITARY
PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. WHICH
OPERATED PRIVATIZED MILITARY
HOUSING IN THE SAN DIEGO AREA.
AS WELL AS THE LAW FROM KIMBALL
TYREE IN SAINT JOHN WHICH WERE
PRESENTED AND UNLAWFUL DETAINER
ACTIONS. WILL LEAD TO THE
DEFENDANTS ILLEGALLY OBTAINED
DEFAULT JUDGMENTS EVICTION CASES
BROUGHT AGAINST EIGHTEEN SERVICE
MEMBERS. AND THAT THEY VIOLATED
THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF MILITARY
MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES BY
ILLEGALLY INCLUDING PERSONAL
INFORMATION IN COURT FILINGS. WE
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING AND
EXPANDING OUR WORK RELATED TO
THE RIGHTS OF TENANTS. AND WE
ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS AND
ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
INFORMATION REGARDING VIOLATIONS
OF TENANTS RIGHTS. TO CONTACT
OUR OFFICE. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO. OUR OF THE WORK
THAT IT. TO PROTECT TENANTS BE
PLEASED ANY. THAT YOU HAVE.
WONDERFUL THANK YOU. ON THE LAST
NOTE THAT YOU JUST. MADE IN
TERMS OF EXPANDING YES MA'AM
WHAT- IT JUST GIVE YOU- IF YOU
COULD BE FOR. THIS TO EXAMPLES-
OF FUNDING AVAILABLE IN YOUR
UNFAIR COMPETITION LAW FUND- OR-
USE THE MONEY FROM THE
LITIGATION DEPOSIT FUND- ARE
THOSE. WHY OR WHY NOT CAN THEY
BE USED TO EXPAND AT TEN THE
PROTECTION. THEY CAN'T OKAY I IN
SO THE CIVIL PENALTIES WE
RECOVER IN OUR CONSUMER
PROTECTION ACTIONS BROUGHT UNDER
THE IN FOR COMPETITION LAW. ARE
UNFAIR COMPETITION LAW FUND
FUNDS IN TERMS OF THE COLOR OF
MONEY THAT WERE GENERATING- WE
TYPICALLY HOLD THOSE IN THE
LITIGATION DEPOSIT FUND FOR
MINISTER PURPOSES AND THEN AS WE
SPEND UCL FUND MONEY WE DISPERSE
THOSE FOR THAT PURPOSE- WE HAVE
SIGNIFICANT FUNDS BUILT UP IN
THE LITIGATION DEPOSIT FUNDED
THAT ARE UNFAIR COMPETITION LAW
FUNDS. WERE LIMITED RIGHT NOW
WHERE SPENDING AUTHORITY IN IN
HOW MANY ATTORNEYS WE CAN HIRE
HOW MUCH WORK WE CAN DO WITH
ADDITIONAL SPENDING AUTHORITY
WOULD BE ABLE TO DO ADDITIONAL
WORK. AND THAT COMES TO THE
LEGISLATURE YES MA'AM OKAY WE'LL
FIGURE THAT. NUMBER THANK. THANK
YOU PROVIDERS A PROPOS NUMBER
LISTED THEY'VE WORKED WORK FORCE
YOU TO. YES SIR WE CAN WORK WITH
OUR OFF TO PER THAT. WE CAN BE
HELPFUL THANK YOU- AND IT JUST
ONE MORE OF YOU- HOW DO THE DEAL
IDEA BY CASES. OR OTHER ACTIONS
WE TO TENANTS. PROTECTIONS SO WE
USE A VARIETY OF SOURCES OF
INFORMATION THAT BRING US LEADS
AND INFORMATION THAT THAT HELP
US DEVELOP CASES. REALLY ACROSS
OUR CONSUMER PROTECTION WORKING
PARTICULARLY IN THE TENANT
PROTECTION SPACE A LOT OF THOSE
REFERRALS ARE COMING FROM ARE
LEGALLY PARTNERS OUT THERE ON
THE GROUND PROVIDING DIRECT
LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO TENANTS
AND WE CAN NEVER SUBSTITUTE FOR
THE WORK THEY DO IT IS
ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL- BUT PART
OF WHAT THEY DO IS THAT THEY'RE
IDENTIFYING CASES THEY'RE-
THEY'RE BRINGING US LEADS
THEY'RE HELPING US CONNECT WITH-
VICTIMS WHO MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE
COME TO LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT ARE
COMFORTABLE ENGAGING WITH LEGAL
AID- AND THAT'S OFTEN HOW WE
BUILD OUR CASES. AND THEN WE
HAVE A VARIETY OF INVESTIGATIVE
TOOLS INCLUDING OUR ABILITY TO
ISSUE PREFERRED ALLOWING
INVESTIGATIVE SUBPOENAS FOR
TESTIMONY AND DOCUMENTS. AND
ALONG WITH WITH OTHER
CONTROVERSIAL INVESTIGATIVE
TOOLS WE USE THAT TO BUILD UP
THOSE CASES BUT THOSE LEADS ARE
REALLY ESSENTIAL THAT THAT HELPS
US KNOW WHAT ROCKS TO TURN OVER.
GOOD LET MAKES MAKES A LOT OF
SENSE- FOR- BROTHERS THANK YOU
ALL AGAIN VERY VERY MUCH. I
TRULY APPRECIATE THIS THE- I
HAVE A BILL FOR ANYBODY'S
INTERESTED. ON THIS ALONG THE
LINES OF TENANT PROTECTIONS-
BUT- HERE WE TALK ABOUT YOUR
WORK- WHAT WOULD YOU IDENTIFY
AND COULD EACH SAVE SOMETHING.
TO THIS EFFECT WHAT ARE THE
MAJOR CHALLENGES YOU FACE IN-
COOPER PROVIDING LEGAL
ASSISTANCE AND DIRECTION CASES.
SURE THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY
THAT- THAT STAFFING FOR US IS A
HUGE ISSUE RECRUITMENT- HAVING
ENOUGH ATTORNEYS TO PROVIDE
REPRESENTATION- AND THEN-
PRIORITIZING THE CASES AS THEY
COME IN A WEEK CANNOT ADDRESS.
ALL OF THE CLIENT CONCERNS THAT
COME TO US WE HAVE TO BE
SELECTIVE AND STRATEGIC. IN
ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS
OF- THAT THE LARGER TO THE
COMMUNITY LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES
WHO ARE RELYING ON US TO
PRESERVE THEIR RIGHTS MORE
GENERALLY SO WE TRY TO- BE
SELECTIVE ABOUT THE CASES THAT
WE DO TAKE FOUR TO DIVIDE OUR
RESOURCES TO SO THAT THAT'S IT'S
A BIG CHALLENGE THE LIMITED
RESOURCES- BOTH THE AND THE MANY
RESOURCES THAT. THE LIMIT AB FAB
ATTORNEYS INTERESTED IN DOING
THIS WORK WHICH IS HONESTLY
DECLINED OVER OVER THE YEARS AND
THEN IT FROM THERE TRYING TO
MAKE THIS THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS-
ABIDE WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE-
A LOT OF PARTNERS. IN THIS WORK
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND
THE LARGER LEGALLY COMMUNITY-
WHERE YOU KNOW THE ELEVEN LSC
FUNDED PROGRAMS LEAVE OFF THERE
ARE YOU KNOW THE OTHER AND YOU
KNOW NINETY- AT AYE ALL TO
FUNDED PROGRAMS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND THE AND THEY PICK
UP A LOT OF THIS WORK AS WELL AS
THE STATE'S- GOVERNMENT.
AGENCIES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
DOING ITS PART- IN ITS VARIOUS
DIVISIONS AS WELL SO- THAT'S
FORTUNATE BUT IT THAT THE
FUNDING THE STAFFING. THOSE ARE
THOSE ARE THE BIG THINGS FOR US.
I HAD THREE THINGS THE- BUT FOR
MUCH ALIGNED BUT THE FIRST IS
FUNDING FOR A WORK AND THERE'S
SOME- LIGHT AT THE END OF THE
TUNNEL IS FOR THE CITY OF LA ON
THIS MATTER. A MEASURE YOU LA-
IF IT HOLDS UP IN THE COURTS
WHICH HOPEFULLY IT WILL WILL
PROVIDE MONEY FOR A FULL RIGHT
TO COUNSEL FOR LOW INCOME
TENANTS IN THE CITY OF LOS
ANGELES. AND THE FUNDING LOOKS
LIKE IT IS SUFFICIENT TO DO
THAT- WE WILL STILL NEED TO
WORRY ABOUT THE REST OF THE
COUNTY- BUT THAT IS A BIG STEP
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON ON THE
FUNDING SIDE OF THINGS. THE
SECOND PIECE IS- HIRING THE
STAFF THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT
WORK AND RETAINING THEM YOU KNOW
AN ATTORNEY AT INTERCITY
LAWCENTER COULD MAKE A LOT MORE
MONEY IN PRIVATE PRACTICE AND
COULD MAKE MORE MONEY IN
GOVERNMENT PRACTICE AS WELL. AND
SO THEY ARE ALL CHOOSING TO DO
THIS WORK AND- THAT'S TOUGHER
AND TOUGHER FOLKS TO DO WITH THE
COMING OUT OF LAW SCHOOL AND
HAVING STUDENT LOANS IN
PARTICULAR- I KNOW YOU HAVE
ANOTHER MATTER YOU CAN BE
LOOKING AT LATER TODAY THAT
INVOLVES POSSIBLY. SUPPORT FOR
LEGAL AID ATTORNEY STUDENT
LOANS. THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL
TO HAVE SOME SUPPORT IN THAT
AREA. ANOTHER THING WHICH I
THINK YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT
LATER TODAY. IS THE VAST
MAJORITY OF OUR FUNDING IS
REALLY FOR SPECIFIC AS
APPROPRIATE SPECIFIC LEGAL WORK.
OUR SYSTEM WILL GIVE US GIVE ME
MONEY AND SAY. ERNIE TWO
SERVICEMEN CLIENTS OF THE SORT
OF WORK AND THAT'S GREAT. BUT IT
DOESN'T PROVIDE A LOT OF SPACE
FOR MORE- INNOVATIVE THINKING
ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH OUR WORK
INVESTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE
OF THE ORGANIZATION. GIVE YOU AN
EXAMPLE WE LAUNCHED ABOUT- TEN
MONTHS AGO NOW. A POWER.
ATTENDANT POWER TOOL KIT. WITH A
GROUP CALLED THE DEBT
COLLECTIVE. THE STATE WIDE TOOL.
THAT IS DESIGNED TO DO TWO
THINGS ONE TO DIMINISH THE
NUMBER OF TENANTS WERE
DEFAULTING. AN UNLAWFUL DETAINER
ACTIONS. BECAUSE THEY CAN GO
ONLINE AND ACTUALLY. USE THIS
TOOL TO PREPARE THEIR ANSWER
WITH A LOCAL RULES INCORPORATED-
AND- THEN SECONDLY TO HOPEFULLY
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. CONNECT
THOSE- TENANTS WITH. AN
ORGANIZING GROUPS COMMUNITY
GROUPS LEGAL AID GROUPS. AND
WEBER JUST ARE LIVING- SO IN THE
FIRST NINE MONTHS- IS THE LESSER
HANDLES THE FILINGS FOR THAT
TOOL. IN THE COUNTY LOS ANGELES
WE FILED OVER JUST OVER TWELVE
HUNDRED. ANSWERS TO THAT TOOL SO
AND THAT'S JUST IN L. A. COUNTY
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE ASSET
BUT THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT
WE HAD TO. FIND SPECIFIC FUNDING
TO BE ABLE TO INNOVATE AND THINK
ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH THIS
DIFFERENTLY- I THINK YOU ALSO
HAVE. SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT
ALONG THOSE LINES LATER TODAY.
WELL- I HEARD SOME GIVE THE SUIT
THIS IS. AND WHO DOES WORK
AROUND THE- ABOUT THE TRAINING
OF ATTORNEYS BECAUSE THERE ARE A
LOT OF ATTORNEYS. AND HE SOUGHT
TO FIND THE ONES THAT WANT TO DO
THIS WORK. BUT DON'T KNOW HOW.
AND DON'T HAVE THE SPECIALTY IN
THAT. AND SHE HAD SUGGESTED THAT
THERE BE HUBS. OF AROUND A
CONNECTED TO THE COURTS. THAT
WOULD ACTUALLY- HELP TRAIN EACH
OTHER OR YOU GET THOSE WHO HAVE
THE EXPERIENCE TO TRAIN EACH
OTHER. BUT THEY WOULD BE.
CONNECTED TO A COURT OR
GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. AND SO IT
JUST COMES TO MIND BECAUSE IT'S
PROBABLY NOT SPECIFIC FUNDING TO
DO THAT BUT- THAT WOULD. EXPAND
THE POOL OF THE TOURNEY'S WITH
THE EXPERIENCE AND THE KNOWLEDGE
TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND AT
LEAST IN LOS ANGELES WE DO SOME
OF THAT WE ORGANIZE OURSELVES
AS- ABOUT TEN DIFFERENT
RESERVATIONS EARLY TO PROVIDE
THESE WITH SERVICES. IN THE
VISION AREA AND WE VERY MUCH
COORDINATE WITH ONE ANOTHER AND
WE DO THE OF THE COURTHOUSES FOR
WHO'S WHERE AND SOME OF US ARE
MULTIPLE COURTHOUSES WE
COORDINATE ON THAT. ONE IS THE
ACCESS TO JUSTICE COMMISSION IS
FUNDED AS A LAW CENTER DO THAT
WHICH IS TO THE TAIL END OF. IS
ACTUALLY PREPARING- A MANUAL TO
HELP WITH THIS TRAINING- SO
THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF IS PRETTY
BASIC ON THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN
PLACE BECAUSE WE'RE SO FOCUSED
ON. THE VOLUME OF DOING THE
CASES DAY IN AND DAY OUT SO
ANYTHING ANYTHING ANYTIME WE
CAN. FIND FUNDING THAT HELPS US.
THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN MORE
CREATIVELY AS YOU JUST SUGGEST
WHETHER TUBBS WHETHER IT'S
TRAINING ADDITIONAL FOLKS
WHATEVER MIGHT BE HAVING TIME
AND SPACE AND FUNDING TO BE ABLE
TO FIGURE THOSE SORTS OF THINGS
. OUT DEVELOP THEM IS VERY
VALUABLE- MISS ROSE GOODWIN IS
THE SYSTEM THAT. YOU THINK THE
JUDAS I MEAN THERE'S A DUDE
COUNCIL. IN THE- THAT'S- THAT.
YOU COULD. ENGAGE WITH WITCHES.
EXPANDING THE POOL OF ATTORNEYS
DOING- HOUSING AND EVICTION WORK
. YEAH I'M INVITED SLOT A SLOT
COULD BE OF DOOR **** HERE TO.
ADD SOME. COMMENTS TO THAT
EFFECT. YOU WERE HIDING BACK
THERE YEP. THANK YOU- AND I CAN
WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE
PROGRAM EXPERTS WHO. WORK IN
THIS AREA HERE TODAY BUT WE ARE
THERE LISTENING. TO THE
COMMITTEE AND WE CAN DEFINITELY
COME BACK. THE STAFF OF WITH
THOSE THOSE QUESTIONS BUT I
WOULDN'T WANT TO. SPEAK OUT OF
TURN AND- PROVIDE YOU LONG
INFORMATION. I THINK THESE ARE
GREAT IDEAS- IN THE SENSE OF.
NOT THE TRADITIONAL WAY WE HAVE
A- WE HAVE A CRISIS. TONIGHT
VERY MUCH APPLAUD- PEOPLE LIKE
OUR NEW MAYOR IN LOS ANGELES
WHO'S- TRYING TO APPROACH THIS
IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS
BUT THE FOCUS EVERYBODY BEING
FOCUSED. CERTAINLY IS GOING TO
MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE- IF YOU
HAVE. MONEY TO PICK UP A FEW
MORE BUT- STILL FOR TIME FOR YOU
TO. I SEE I REALLY DO. THE
DETAILS HOW THE COUNTRY. AND I
THINK YOU SHOULD DO IS MAY IN
SOME WAY THAT THIS IS. READ IT
AND I HAVE AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF.
I THINK EMORY FOR THE WORK YOU
DO BUT BUT IT'S ALSO. IF YOU
KNOW IT CITIES LIKE SWEEPING THE
BEACH I MOVIES SO. THE REAL
QUESTION MOVE FORWARD JOURNAL
ENTRY BY THE TOOL YOU'VE
MENTIONED RIGHT THAT. HOPEFULLY
AT SOME SCALABILITY- AND
STANDARDIZATION AROUND MANY OF
THESE ACTIONS BECAUSE- TENANTS
ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE AT A
DISADVANTAGE- IN INGENIOUS IN
THE FACE OF THE SYSTEM
ESPECIALLY THOSE TEND TO FIND
THEMSELVES IN SUCH. SITUATIONS
SO THE OTHER QUESTION IS YOU
KNOW HOW DO WE GET. OUT OF THIS
PROBLEM ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE
OUT OF THE PANDEMIC WHEN IT'S A
CERTAINTY THAT THE RESOURCES
THAT ARE PROVIDED LAST COUPLE
YEARS WILL DISAPPEAR- AND EVEN
SHOW. IN ALL THESE PROBLEMS
PRECEDED THE PANDEMIC AND- SOME
MENTION IT IT'S REALLY ABOUT
COST OF LIVING SPENDING
COMMITTEE QUALITY- IN CALIFORNIA
I AGREE THAT'S THAT'S THE
PROBLEM WE NEED TO SOLVE OR LONG
TERM. BUT IT YOU KNOW ANY
SOLUTION THAT ACTUALLY ACTUALLY
A SCALABILITY REPLICA ABILITY-
YOU KNOW TO THE CENTER'S POINT
ABOUT. YOU KNOW EXTENDING ERR
THE REACH THE HAVE YOU KNOW SAID
TRAIN TRAIN THE TRAINER KIND OF
STUFF- I THINK WE SHOULD INVEST
IN THOSE THINGS. BECAUSE
OTHERWISE IT IT'S JUST YOU KNOW
COME A WORKABLE THING- AND
AGAIN. I'M NOT SURE I COULD DO
THE WORK YOU DO- BECAUSE IT JUST
NEVER ENDS. READY DID INDICATE A
KISS BECAUSE OF SYSTEMIC- AND SO
BEAUTIFUL I'M I'M GLAD TO LOOK
AT ANY SOLUTION ACTUALLY. SHOWS
A COVER LEVERAGE RETURNED-
STARTS TO. BRING DOWN THE NUMBER
OF PEOPLE WHO NEED THE SERVICES.
CLEARLY. A HUGE DISADVANTAGE.
AND WITH THAT I HOPE BUT YOU
SOMETIME. PLEASE PLEASE DO. SO-
SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO RIGHT YOU
KNOW WHAT WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
HELPING. FOLKS THAT ROOM MESSY
SITUATION I REALLY OFF SUCH. AND
WE NEED TO LOOK MORE SYSTEM. I
THINK WE TO LOOK A FEW DIFFERENT
IMAGE ONE IS ON OF HOUSING WE'VE
GOT TO MORE TO BRING DOWN THE
COST OF. CLEAR FOR LOW INCOME
FOLKS STATE OF CALIFORNIA THIS
MAY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT A COUPLE
ISSUE WITH. THEN PROVIDING LEGAL
SERVICE BUT WE NEED TO DO IT BUT
ON THE LEGAL SERVICES FRONT I
WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO
THINK ABOUT OF RIGHT TO COUNSEL
FOR TENANTS FACING EVICTION.
PLACES THAT INSTITUTED THAT HAVE
FOUND EXACTLY WHAT I THINK YOU
ALLUDED TO WHICH IS IN A NEW
YORK CITY FOR EXAMPLE WHEN THEY
DID IT THEY SAW A 30% DROP. IN
THE NUMBER OF EVICTIONS FILED.
SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CREATED A
RIGHT TO COUNSEL AND THE THEORY
BEHIND THAT WHICH I THINK IS
ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON IS THAT
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF
FRIVOLOUS STUFF BEING FILED. AND
JUST HAVING A LAWYER PRESENT THE
PROCESS MIDDLEMAN WAS NOT GONNA
WASTE THE TIME FILING SOMETHING
IS GOING TO GET LOOKED AT
GETTING OUT OF COURT. SO THEY
WERE HUGE SAVINGS TO THE
ELECTION PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY
TO PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS IF WE
HAD A RIGHT TO COUNSEL AND EVERY
LOW INCOME TEN IN THE STATE. WHO
IS FACING EVICTION WAS NOT JUST
FACING A LAWYER ON THE OTHER
SIDE. BUT THEY HAD A LAWYER ON
THEIR SIDE. AND ENERGY I DO
APPRECIATE HIS SOME DETERRENT
VALUE THERE THAT. THAT THAT.
WOULD OFFER. INTERNET SAVINGS
RECIPE HELP WHAT REAL PEOPLE-
THE QUESTION THE OTHER DAY. IS
WHO PAYS FOR. RIGHT TO COUNSEL
RIGHT INCREASING THE DELAYS
FIGURED OUT A WAY TO DO IT
STATEWIDE- FISHING THIS FISCAL
ENVIRONMENT CAN BE REALLY. HARD
TO DO. YOUR ON THE BUDGET
COMMITTEE. I AM BUT A SMALL. DOG
ANY DAY. MACHINES YEAH BUT A-
DID SOME. WE SHORTER. A THERE
ARE THERE ARE NO. STUDIES
LOOKING AT THE CALL. EFFECTIVE
OF THAT MY- AS WELL. AS SERVICE.
RUN BY. I THINK LOOKING AT AT.
LOSS AND LOOKING ALL. COST SAY.
THAT HAPPENED. THAT SO. THAT
THE- ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT
YOU KNOW HOW TO. FIND IT. BUT IT
DOES. THERE ARE TO BE A WAY TO.
IT BECAUSE IN THE LONG. RUN IT'S
WHAT COST OF. BEING THANK YOU.
IF I MAY I JUST LIKE TO ADD. TO
THAT- THE- AS I. MENTIONED
BEFORE. INCREASED TEN.
PROTECTIONS IN THE UNLAWFUL
DETAINER CONTEXT. GIVE US TOOLS
THAT ALLOW US TO BE EFFECTIVE TO
BEYOND THE INDIVIDUAL CASE. IN
IN THESE COURTS WHERE WE CAN
EDUCATE THE BENCH ABOUT THE
RIGHTS OF TENANTS USING THE
TENANT PROTECTION ACT OTHER
POSSIBLE PROTECTIONS THAT COME
INTO PLAY. AND THAT ALSO HAS A
DETERRENT EFFECT ON IT
FRIVOLOUS- INFECTIONS. AND IT IT
HAS A MUCH MORE WIDESPREAD
AFFECT THAN THAN SIMPLY- THAT
YOU KNOW TRYING TO WORK TOWARD
THAT GOAL OF REPRESENTATION FOR
EACH INDIVIDUAL WHICH IS OF
COURSE THE IDEAL- BUT- IT ALSO
DOESN'T COST ANYTHING. SO TO THE
EXTENT THAT- THAT THE STATE CAN
CAN LOOK TO THOSE KIND OF
ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS- TO TRY
TO- TO GIVE AT TENANTS. A LITTLE
MORE LEVERAGE THAN THEY HAVE
RIGHT NOW. WE CAN DO A LOT BUT
THAT IS ADVOCATES. WELL WONDERS
THAT YOU COULD HAVE BECAUSE OF
YOUR WORK. ON YOU KNOW IN THE-
IS TO TELL THE REAL STORY OF WHO
THE TENANTS ARE. AND WHAT
THEY'RE FACING- I'VE HEARD. FROM
MEMBERS AND THE AND THE
LEGISLATURE REPEAT OVER AND OVER
THAT. WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THOSE
TENANTS THAT YOU KNOW ARE
DESTROYING THEIR APARTMENT WOULD
EVEN DO ABOUT THOSE TENANTS WE
DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR
RIGHT. TO GET RID OF BAD TENANTS
AND BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF.
PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE
LEGISLATURE I THINK WE REALLY
NEED A WAY BASED ON. THE REALITY
OF WHAT TENANTS FACE EVERY DAY.
THAT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON OUT
THERE WHAT'S WHAT'S THE STORY OF
TENANTS AND WE DON'T GET THAT WE
DON'T GET THAT AND I THINK
THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT. ROLE
THAT ALL COULD PLAY TO HELP US.
WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO DO IT WE
COULD- WE COULD GIVE YOU A LOT
OF STORES. OKAY IT'S JUST ONE
OTHER THING IN TERMS OF HOW
ABOUT PRE TRIAL SERVICES- I
HAVEN'T HEARD OF OTHERS
MENTIONED- DIVERSION OR
MEDIATION. THESE WHAT DO YOU
THINK OF THOSE WHAT ARE YOUR
OPINIONS. THEY'RE INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT AND WE DO A LOT OF IT
AND WE YOU KNOW I THINK AND YOU
SPOKE A BIT TO TRYING TO AVOID
TO- AS ACTION FILINGS BY-
RESPONDING TO NOTICES OF COURSE
WE'RE TRYING TO JUMP IN AS EARLY
AS POSSIBLE TO RESOLVE CASES ARE
SHRIVER PROJECT DOES HAVE A
MEDIATION COMPONENT WITH- WITH
THE COURT AND WE HAVE A
MEDIATOR. AND IF THAT IS
INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL- ALMOST
EVERY CASE IT GOES THROUGH THEIR
RESULTS AND AN AGREEMENT AND-
YOU KNOW EITHER A SOFT LANDING
OUR RESOLUTION OF THE ISSUE. SO
THOSE ARE I THINK COMPONENTS IN
ALMOST EVERY LEGAL AID PROGRAM
THAT DOES HOUSING IS TRYING TO
GET TO THOSE CASES EARLY AND
USES OTHER TOOLS TO TRY TO
RESOLVE THEM. AND SO IT'S IT WE
USE THE FUNDING TO DO THAT AS
WELL REALLY GOING TO TRIAL IS
OUR LAST RESORT. CAN I DO TO
DESERVE EM YOU TOUCH IS
SOMETHING I THINK IS ALWAYS
RELEVANT. AND YOU CAN ONLY HELP
THE FOLKS WHO COME TO YOU FOR
HELP. AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY YOU
KNOW PRETTY SMALL FRACTION OF
RENTERS FINANCES TROUBLE TO. HOW
DO WE THINK ABOUT ME TO BE AWARE
TALK ABOUT FUNDS FOR
REPRESENTATION. YOUR BROADER GOT
A QUESTION ABOUT HOW DO WE
EDUCATE TENANTS. ABOUT THE
RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM. AND
I CHOSE IT I THINK IMPORTANT TO
GO KILL YOUR YOUR FINING PEOPLE
AT THE BACK OF THE WORST. MOMENT
IN THEIR LIVES TO BE THOUGHTFUL-
OR PROACTIVE. ABOUT FINDING
HOUSE- IS SO- WHAT IT WOULD
THOUGHTS THERE WOULD THE STATE.
HOW CAN THIS. IN IN WAYS THAT
IT. THAT SO THEY COME YOU SOONER
RATHER LATER JUST THAT THERE A
BENEFIT TO- AND WHEN I SAY YOU I
MEAN I MEAN THE KEY. VERY SO I
THINK THAT THAT THAT'S THE KEY
IS THERE A COMMUNITY GROUPS OUT
THERE THAT ARE VERY DEEPLY
CONNECTED AND EMBEDDED IN. EVERY
COMMUNITY IN THE STATE. AND SO
IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE
THE RESOURCES TO DO THE
EDUCATION PARTNER WITH LEGAL
SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS THIS IS A
AS IS APPROPRIATE- IN LOS
ANGELES I THINK THERE'S BEEN
SOME POSITIVE SIGNS- IN THE LAST
FEW YEARS IN THAT RESPECT. THERE
IS A MUCH MORE ACTIVE- TENANT
ORGANIZING COMMUNITY. IN LOS
ANGELES AND THERE WAS THREE OR
FOUR YEARS AGO- AND A PART OF
THAT IS I THINK TENANTS BEING.
KNOWING THAT THE PROTECTIONS
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING.
AND THEY'RE NOT HAPPENING
AUTOMATICALLY AND THEY'RE
FRUSTRATED AND SO THEY'RE
LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE. AND A
LOT OF GROUPS OF ORGANIZED
AROUND THAT- BUT I THINK IT'S
THE LEGISLATURE SUPPORTING THE
COMMUNITY GROUPS. THAT ARE ON
THE GROUND IN EACH OF THESE
COMMUNITIES WITH EDUCATION. AND
WITH ABILITY TO ENABLE THEM. TO
SHOW UP IN OUR OFFICES ARE
CONNECT WITH US. WE SHOULD
INSTANT IS YOUR THAN DONE A- IS
. DOES THAT COULD- IS THAT
CONNECTS WITH GOOGLE WITH. THE
SERVICES OF THE- LAW LIBRARIES-
THE TENANTS- YOU KNOW THE OTHER
TENANTS SERVICES THAT YOU HAVE
IN THE COURTS OR- IS THERE A
CONNECTION. WELL THERE CERTAINLY
IS A CONNECTION OF IT YOU KNOW
LIKE EVERYTHING EVOLVING CAN BE
MADE STRONGER RIGHT SO
CENTRALIZED SELF HELP SERVICES
AVAILABLE THE JUDICIAL BRANCH
WEBSITE. CONNECTING TO LOCAL
SELF HELP CENTERS. IN EACH OF
THE FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES AND
THEN. THOSE COUNTIES. I HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO DIRECT FOLKS TO
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AS NEEDED
SO THERE IS A NETWORK BUT ARE
YOU KNOW ALWAYS OPEN TO. NEW
IDEAS. OUR IDEAS ON TO GET.
THOSE RESOURCES. WHAT WE TO WORK
IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A WITH THE
COURTS AND THAT THE SELF HELP
SERVICES AVAILABLE THERE AND WE
CERTAINLY DIRECT CLIENTS WE ARE
NOT ABLE TO ASSIST- DIRECTLY TO
THE RESOURCES THAT EXIST ONLINE
I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH. HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE
RESOURCES AVAILABLE ONLINE
DURING THE PANDEMIC WE DID
VIDEOS AND A NUMBER OF OTHER AND
KIND OF- COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE
PUT OUT TO AND THROUGH SOCIAL
MEDIA AS WELL AS ON OUR WEBSITE
TO REACH PEOPLE. I WOULD SAY
THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE GET
TO US NOW- ARE FINDING US BY
GOOGLING YOU KNOW THE HELP FOR
ADDICTION AND WHATEVER COUNTY
THEY'RE IN AND THEY GET TO US
AND SO WE PUT A LOT OF
INVESTMENT INTO. THAT SORT OF
OUTREACH AS WELL AS AND BEING A
AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS- THAT
COMMUNITY LAWYERING BASED WHICH
MEANS THAT WE EXPECT OUR
ATTORNEYS TO BE OUT AND
COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME WORKING
WITH THESE COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS. AND AS YOU KNOW
IT MANY AT LEGAL AID PROGRAMS
DO- BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I'M
REACHING PEOPLE ONLINE HAVING
GOOD ACCESSIBLE RESOURCES- BOTH
FOR PEOPLE WHO SPEAK LANGUAGES
OTHER THAN ENGLISH. AND PEOPLE
WHO HAVE EITHER ACCESSIBILITY
NEEDS IN TERMS OF ACCESSING THAT
ONLINE INFORMATION IS ABSOLUTELY
VITAL BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE
REALITY OF HOW PEOPLE GET THEIR
INFORMATION. AND HOW THEY GET TO
HELP THESE DAYS. FROM JUST LOOK
AT THE LAST PAGE OF THE- THAT.
BEEN FOR. IT ON THE CELL PHONE
PAGE I THINK OF THE VERY BOTTOM
SAYS FUND OF A FREE OR COST
LAWYER. SO I THINK WE ARE
CONNECT. EVEN ON OUR RESEARCH ON
OUR INTERNET PAGE AND PROVIDE
THAT FOR THE LINK AS BEST WE CAN
. BY AGE OF STATIC I MEAN YOU
KNOW THIS IS KIND OF. TRUE IS IN
THE PEOPLE MOST DEF AT TRYING TO
RESEARCH IN THE PAPER LEE LIKELY
. MANY OF THE KIDS. AND WE TALK
A LOT ABOUT I'M THE SURE
EDUCATION TALK ABOUT. TO
CORRECTIVE SUGGEST REFINING
REASONS WHY. AND IT YOU KNOW TO
THE EXTENT. MORE THAN HALF
CALIFORNIA AGAIN WE- FOR SHOULD
PROBABLY BE. MORE DELIBERATE
ABOUT EDUCATING THE AVERAGE
CALIFORNIANS MAY BE IN HIGH
SCHOOL. ABOUT YOU KNOW HOW YOU
RENT APARTMENT WHAT IT MEANS TO
BE TEN IT WOULD WHAT YOUR RIGHTS
ARE AWARE APPLICATIONS. BECAUSE
IT'S THERE'S KIND OF A KNOWLEDGE
BASE THAT IS CLEARLY. MISSING TO
ISSUE AMONG THOSE WHO MOST
CHALLENGED- SO FOR THE- NOW SO
JUST ONE. OF ONE MORE SPEAKING
OF WHICH IS WHAT ABOUT. THE WORK
THAT YOU DO WITH LANDLORDS. HOW
DOES THE FOR INTO THIS. OF TEN
PER. AND STOP YOU KNOW.
UNREASONABLE EVICTIONS. CAN THE
THOUGHT IS THAT I AM PROUD HAZY
FACES. WE DO REPRESENT LANDLORDS
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE DRAW THE
LINE AND WE'RE CONFLICTED OUT
THAT WE HAVE YOU KNOW- WHERE
WE'RE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT
HOWEVER. WE HAVE FOR DECADES-
AND DONE OUTREACH TO THE
LANDLORD COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE
DO IS FOR HOUSING PRESENTATIONS
IS IT GENERALLY HOW THEY'RE
FRAMED. BY THE- WE JUST- HAD ONE
A WEEK AGO AND WILL HAVE
HUNDREDS OF LANDLORDS COME TO
THESE PRESENTATIONS THROUGHOUT
OUR SERVICE AREA WHERE WE TALK
ABOUT- AND THAT THEIR RIGHTS
RESPONSIBILITIES OF LANDLORDS
AND TENANTS. AND OF COURSE
THEY'RE GETTING THE LEGAL AID TO
VERSION OF THIS- WHEN THEY TALK
TO THEIR OWN COUNSEL THEY MIGHT
GET A DIFFERENT STORY BUT WE DO
THAT OUR REACH IN ORDER TO MAKE
SURE THAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE
AVAILABLE BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY
LANDLORDS WHO ARE NOT CONNECTED
TO ATTORNEYS WHO WERE ADVISING
THEM. AND THEY REALLY ARE ON A
WHERE ESPECIALLY IF MANY OF THE
NEW WORKER PROTECTIONS FOR
TENANTS AND MANY OF THEM
ACTUALLY DO WISH TO BE EDUCATED
ABOUT IT AND THEY WANT TO BE
GOOD LANDLORDS AND SO WE
DEFINITELY. SPEND OUR TIME DOING
THAT AND WE HAVE THE SUPPORT TO
ACTUALLY OF- MANY LOCALITIES
MANY CITIES AND COUNTIES- WILL
FIND AT THAT KIND OF- OUTREACH
BUT WE'RE COMMITTED TO IT- WE
DON'T PROVIDE A DIRECT
REPRESENTATION TO LANDLORDS BUT-
BUT WE SURE ARE HAPPY TO IT TO
TRY TO SHARE THAT KIND OF
INFORMATION EDUCATE THEM. LET ME
ASK YOU JUST AND YOU KNOW WHAT
IF YOU HAD A- PRESENTATION TO
LAND. WERE GOOD. HOW WOULD. HALF
HOUR HOURS. AGE YOU KNOW WHAT IS
IT OF THE A LENDER QUITE OFTEN
ARE FAR. DEFICIENT KNOWLEDGE
RIGHT IT INTERNET IT'S REPORTER
REALLY WIN SOME HEYSEL. YOU KNOW
THEN YOU'RE COSTS BENEFIT TO.
THAT'S PURPOSE REYES EUROPEAN
SOME POINT. NO RETURN THERE SO
HOW HOW. YOU KNOW BY WAY BY. YOU
KNOW A BRIEF BRIEF WITH THE TO
ENERGY BE. YOU KNOW. RECENTLY CA
. AND THEIR OBLIGATIONS WELL OUR
OUR FAIR HOUSING PRESENTATIONS
ARE THREE TO FOUR HOURS USUALLY-
SO THEY'RE LIKE A HALF DAY- AND
TO ADD THAT THAT IS ENOUGH TO
SORT OF GET THE INFORMATION OUT
THERE PROVIDE SOME RESOURCES
MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO.
TO GO TO GET MORE INFORMATION OF
COURSE YOU KNOW THAT THE STATE
RESOURCES A GREAT. FOR THAT AB
AND THAT IS ENOUGH TO KIND OF
SCRATCHED THE SURFACE RIGHT- AND
OF COURSE THEY THERE THERE'S
ALWAYS A QUESTION ANSWER SESSION
WHERE PEOPLE BEGIN TO START AND
ASKING QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN'T
ANSWER. BUT YOU KNOW THREE TO
FOUR HOURS IS A GOOD
INTRODUCTION- YOU KNOW MORE
EDUCATION IN THAT WAY MORE
RESOURCES ALWAYS SELF. THANK YOU
COULD YOU MAKE A DISTINCTION
BETWEEN SORT OF. CLASS OF
LANDLORD LIKE. SINGLE BUS THE
ASSEMBLY OWNS A SINGLE
INTERESTED OUT FOR SYMBIONT.
EXTRA WIRE OVER A HUNDRED TO DO
THE THEIR PRO HAVE DIFFERENT.
ORIENTATION BUT ALSO DIFFERENT
CITY. NEED BY WAY OF KNOWLEDGE
AS WELL. RIGHT I MEAN CERTAINLY
BEVERLY INTER. WITH ONES WHO
HAVE YOU KNOW- I'D SAY YOU KNOW
IF WERE THEN KNOW FIFTY DOLLARS
SOMETHING THAT RIGHT- BUT YOU
KNOW. THE OTHER DO WE HALF
ATTORNEY. THEY WERE BE. IF
TENANTS AND SO THEY WERE HAPPEN
ON RELATIONSHIP LIKELY WITH THE
WITH THE FIRM INTO. THE TERM
WHO'S GOING TO BE ADVISED THEM
ON US OF THINGS. IT GENERALLY
WE'RE NOT GETTING YOU KNOW A LOT
OF PROPERTY MANAGERS WHO ARE
REPRESENTING COMPANIES THERE
WERE GETTING YOU KNOW INDIVIDUAL
LANDLORDS. YEAH I WAS JUST GOING
TO ADD THAT WHEN YOU KNOW WHEN
WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE
INFORMATION. ON VISITS TO OUR
SELF HELP SERVICES FOR. THESE
TYPES OF MATTERS. THAT
INTERESTINGLY MOST OF THE-
THINGS A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION
WERE FOR THE LANDLORD
INFORMATION. SO I THINK THERE'S
THAT THAT OUR WEBSITES TEND TO
BE A SOURCE AND THERE ARE.
SPECIFIC PACKETS YOU KNOW
DEVOTED TO. YOU KNOW SUMMARY OF
INFORMATION FOR LANDLORDS. AHEAD
NOTICING. RULES FIVES YOU KNOW
PROCESS OF SERVICE. SO I THINK
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT EDUCATION
THAT MIGHT BE A GREAT. PLACE TO
START LOOKING TO YOU KNOW TO PUT
TOGETHER. HAVE A- PACKET OF
THINGS THAT LANDLORDS NEED TO BE
AWARE OF AND IT SEEMS THAT THEY
ARE. FINDING THOSE SERVICES ON
THE- SELF HELP WEBSITE IN THE
SPIRIT OF GOING YOU CAN LEAD A
HORSE TO WATER- AT. YOU KNOW IS
THERE MERIT TO. IN THE SAME WAY
THAT YOU KNOW OUR VOTING LICENSE
CALIFORNIA TO GET ONLINE.
BOATING SAFETY COURSE IS THERE
MERIT TO CREATING. A RESOURCE
THAT SAYS FIGURE RENT PROPERTY
CALIFORNIA YOU SHOULD HAVE A
GOOD. LANDLORD SAFETY COURSES
AND IF I REMEMBER KNOWLEDGE IS
THAT. I MEAN THAT THAT THAT THE
RISK OF PRETTY MUCH PEOPLE OUT
WHO ARE WATCHING THIS- IF YOU
KNOW IS THERE MERIT TO THE-
LEGAL STEP FURTHER MAYBE SHOULD
ALSO HAVE INSURANCE- IF YOU'RE
GONNA BE RENTING AND OF THESE
IS. LAW CENTER A LOT OF SUSLOV
MORE AND FORCES THEM TO KNOW
THAT THEIR BUILDINGS AND PAY
THEM. AND ALLOW OF THOSE FOLKS
OUGHT TO HAVE INSURANCE SO THAT
THE TENANTS HAVE SOME I ASSUME
THERE'S BE. OR LIKE YOU KNOW
JURISDICTION. MORE INTERMENT
OKAY I MEAN. OKAY. I MEAN TO BUT
IF IT CAN WITH A LOT OF THESE
CASE. ARE MEET THE PEOPLE NOW IS
THE TEN AS FAR BUT THE- AT THE
END OF THEIR ROPE WHICH WERE. TO
YOU KNOW LOT OF THIS MUST BE
PROOF- IF BOTH PARTIES WERE MORE
USER CONVERSE. HI I AGREE I AM
VERY MUCH AGREE ALSO THE I.
THAT- ARE MANY LAND LAW WHO RAN.
WHO DOES HAVE TO PAY RE. TO BE A
LAND. TO BE HONEST MAINTAIN.
PREMISES AND TO TAKE CARE OF
REPAIRS THAT COME UP AND
OFTENTIMES IN CASES- WHEN THEIR
LANDLORD IS UNREPRESENTED AND SO
WE ARE- I'VE REPRESENTING A
CLIENT WE'RE CONTACTING
OUTLANDER TO TALK WITH THEM THEY
DON'T HAVE AN ATTORNEY. THEY'RE
ASKING US FOR INFORMATION
THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
USUALLY HOW TO GET THE NOTICE
RIGHT BECAUSE WE'VE CALLED THEM
TO SAY YOU'RE AND YOU KNOW OUR
BUTTON INSIDE YOUR NOTICES
DEFICIENT. UNLAWFUL AND THEY'RE
THEY'RE CALLING IN ASKING WILL
HAD A WIFE FIX IT AND WEAR IT
I'M REDUCE HAVE TO SAY I'M SORRY
WE CAN'T HELP YOU WITH THAT
OBVIOUSLY- WE HAVE OUR CLIENT-
BUT I THINK THAT. THE MORE
EDUCATION THE BETTER IT IS
CERTAINLY I DON'T THINK THAT
THAT MOST LANDLORDS ARE
INTENDING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THEIR TENANTS- BUT DAY IT'S A
BUSINESS. AND SO- IF THEY'RE
IGNORANT OF THAT THE KIND OF
PARAMETERS OF HOW THEY CAN
FUNCTION AS A LANDLORD THERE
THEY'RE GOING TO PUSH THE
ENVELOPE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE
MISTAKES. AND SO THE MORE THAT
THEY ARE EDUCATED ABOUT HOW TO
DO THINGS LAWFULLY- THE MORE
EQUIPPED THEY ARE TO BE
LANDLORDS. AND THAT THAT THE
MORE RESOURCES THEY HAVE TO BE
GOOD LANDLORDS IT THE BETTER FOR
TENANTS. YOU KNOW FEATURES FRUIT
FOOD FOR THOUGHT. THE TONIGHT.
WE WANT. TO GO ON A FEW MORE
HOURS HERE. TESTING OUT OF THE.
SURE THERE. WELL WE HAVE MANY
MORE. QUESTIONS MORE THAN A
WE'RE- APPRECIATE I THINK I
SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US
THAT REALLY APPRECIATE. WHAT
YOU'RE DOING HOW IMPORTANT IT IS
TO. YOU KNOW PEOPLE OUT THERE
AND THAT THEY SHOULDN'T FEAR.
LOSING THEIR HOME RATHER.
SHELTERED SOMEWHERE AND ENDING
UP ON THE STREETS SO. THANK YOU
ALL VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE
TIME TO COME HERE. AND WE'RE
GONNA MOVE ON TO. THE ISSUE TOO
WHICH IS LEGAL AID CAPACITY
BUILDING. AND WE HAVE- CATHERINE
BLAKE MORE AND JUDGE LUCY I'M
AND THAT IS. FROM THE CALIFORNIA
ACCESS TO JUSTICE COMMISSION. I
THINK WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH
MISPLAYED MORE. WELCOME. THANK
YOU. A CATHOLIC FOR ON THE VICE
CHAIR OF THE CALIFORNIA
COMMISSION ON THE AXIS OF ATTACK
ON ACCESS TO JUSTICE IT'S REALLY
A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY AND-
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I
DID WANT TO JUST START WITH
SAYING YOU ACTUALLY ARE FUNDING
INNOVATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND
IT'S TO THE AXIS COMMISSION.
THROUGH THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL AND
SOME OF THE WORK YOU HEARD
EARLIER TODAY WAS A RESULT OF
THE FACT THAT THOSE FUNDS SO YOU
SHOULD FEEL PROUD OF THAT- WORK
WITH- LEGAL AID AND JUDGMENT
OURS IS GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT I
WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT ANOTHER
PROBLEM THAT WAS IDENTIFIED BY.
ARE VERY- DEDICATED PANELISTS
TODAY AND I'M I'M SO PROUD TO
HAVE BEEN A LEGAL AID LAWYER FOR
FORTY YEARS AND UP TO SEE THE
GOOD WORK THAT- CONTINUES BUT
THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE OF THE
RECRUITMENT AND READ ATTENTION
CRISIS. AND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS
BOTH OF THE PANELISTS INDICATED
TO HIRE LAWYERS TO DO THIS VERY
IMPORTANT WORK POSITIONS ARE
VACANT FOR SIX MONTHS OR MORE.
AND THE PRIMARY REASON THAT IS A
PROBLEM FOR LEGAL AIDES AND
THEIR STAFF IS A SIGNIFICANT
EDUCATIONAL DOUBT THAT LAWYERS
HAVE WHICH REQUIRES PAYMENT EACH
MONTH- PARTICULARLY ONCE THE
COVETED TO- POLICY CHANGES AND
LOAN REPAYMENTS BEGAN AGAIN BUT
STUDENT DEBT RANGES BETWEEN A
HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.
ABEDIAN TO THREE HUNDRED
THOUSAND AND IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY
MORE FOR ATTORNEYS OF COLOR AND
ATTORNEYS WHO CAN SPEAK OTHER
LANGUAGES THAT WOULD BE VERY.
HELPFUL FOR LEGAL AIDS TO BE
ABLE TO HIRE. TO THE IMPACT OF
IS THAT IT IS HARDER TO MEET THE
LEGAL AID NEEDS OF THE LEGAL
NEEDS OF INDIGENT CALIFORNIANS.
WE HAVE A SOLUTION WE WANT TO
PROPOSE TO YOU AND IT BUILDS ON
GREAT WORK THAT YOUR COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDED LAST YEAR WHICH WAS
CREATING A CALIFORNIA LOAN
REPAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR
LEGAL AID LAWYERS. THIS YEAR
WE'RE PROPOSING TWO THINGS. ONE
IS TO ALLOW LEGAL AID PROGRAMS
TO USE A PORTION OF THEIR EQUAL
ACCESS FUND GRANTED YOU HEARD
I'M SOME GREAT PRESENTATIONS
ABOUT ABOUT THAT. ARE TO PAY FOR
THE LOAN REPAYMENT OBLIGATIONS
THAT HAVE THAT THERE OUR LAWYERS
HEALTH AND SECOND TO PROVIDE A
VERY MODEST TWO HUNDRED AND
FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN STATE
FUNDING. SO THE ACCESS
COMMISSION CAN ADMINISTER
ATTACKS- FREE LOAN REPAYMENT
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WHICH MEANS
THAT LAWYERS BENEFIT BECAUSE-
THEIR PROGRAM WILL BE ABLE TO
PAY FOR PAY FOR THE LOAN
REPAYMENT. AND IT WILL COME TO
THEM TAX FREE SO THAT THEY WON'T
BE PAYING TAXES ON MONEY THAT
SIMPLY WENT TO REPAY THEIR
LOANS. AND ONCE THAT'S CREATED
IT ALLOW IT WILL ALLOW LEGALLY
PROGRAMS TO TELL THEIR LAWYERS
WE WILL MAKE YOUR ANNUAL INCOME
DRIVEN LOAN REPAYMENTS ON A TAX
FREE BASIS. AND AT THE END OF
TEN YEARS YOUR LOANS WILL BE
FORGIVEN UNDER THE FEDERAL
PUBLIC INTEREST LOAN FORGIVENESS
PROGRAM A WIN FOR BOTH THE
PROGRAM AND THE LEGAL AID LAWYER
BUT THE IMPACT IS REALLY TO THE
LEGAL AID CLIENTS THAT ARE
SERVED. WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM
INCREASED NUMBERS OF STAFF IN
MORE EXPERIENCED STAFF WERE ABLE
TO STAY AND BRING THEIR SKILLS
TO REPRESENT SOME OF THE MOST
UNDER REPRESENTED INDIVIDUALS
AND IN CALIFORNIA. SO WITH THAT
I WANNA SAY THANK YOU I'M HAPPY
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE
THEM INTERNET TIMOTHY A CO
PANELISTS A JUDGE LUCY INMAN
DORIS. THANK YOU JUDGE THANK YOU
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
FOUNDER NEWMAN OF COURSE- STAFF.
AS MEDICARE SAID MY NAME IS LUCY
EVAN BODIES I'M A- THANK YOU
DISCOUNT. I'M A MEMBER OF
JUDICIAL COUNCIL BUT TODAY I'M
SPEAKING TO YOU AS A MEMBER OF
THE CALIFORNIA ACCESS TO JUSTICE
. COMMISSION IF I LOOK FAMILIAR
IT'S BECAUSE A LITTLE GREW UP IN
THE STATE SENATE. I AS AN A AND-
I'M THE SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY
ALSO AN ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SAFETY
AND I WAS CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE
SENATE MAJORITY LEADER- BEFORE
BECOMING A JUDGE AND IT WAS HERE
THAT I LEARNED HOW TO. ALWAYS I
REMEMBER BEFORE I LEFT HE SAID
DON'T EVER FORGET. DO THE RIGHT
THING AND DON'T EVER EVER FORGET
THAT UNDERSERVED POPULATION
THIRTEEN THAT BAND THAT I'M
PROUD TO REPORT BACK ON OUR WORK
WITH THE CALIFORNIA ACCESS TO
JUSTICE COMMISSION. IN TWENTY
TWENTY ONE AND TWENTY TWENTY TWO
YOU GENEROUSLY PROVIDED FIVE
MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE EQUAL
ACCESS FUND TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS
OF INNOVATION. AND
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR LEGAL
SERVICES ORGANIZATION. YOU
PRIORITIZE SERVICES TO RURAL AND
UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS. AND
ALSO ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK
WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS THE CASF
OSTROGOTHS AND- WE ARE VERY
PROUD TO REPORT BACK THAT NINETY
FIVE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN FUNDED.
BUT THE FUNDING REQUEST FAR
EXCEEDED THE AVAILABLE FUNDS
THAT YOU GENEROUSLY
APPROPRIATED. WE LEARNED WHAT WE
EXPECTED AND WHAT YOU LEARNED
HERE. LEGAL AIDES HAVE STARVE
THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE
THEY NEED THEIR MONEY TO PROVIDE
THAT DIRECT SERVICE. THESE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND FIRST
INNOVATION GRANTS THAT YOU I'M-
APPROPRIATED ALLOWED THEM TO
INVEST IN TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE SO
THAT THEY CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT
AND THEIR DELIVERY OF MUCH
NEEDED SERVICES. TO THE POOR AND
UNDERSERVED. FOR EXAMPLE SOME OF
THESE LEGAL AID ORGANIZATIONS
USER INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS TO
BUY COMPUTER HARDWARE UPGRADE
THEIR SOFTWARE PROGRAMS. ANOTHER
GRAND T. THAT I'M PARTICULARLY
EXCITED ABOUT REPORTING BACK TO
YOU AS A LEGAL AID ORGANIZATION
CALLED KIDS IN NEED OF DEFENSE
INC. AN ORGANIZATION THAT
PROVIDES REPRESENTATION TO
FOSTER CARE YOUTH. THIS IS
PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO ME I'M
WHEN I'M BECAUSE WHEN I WAS
EIGHT YEARS OLD MY MOTHER WAS
SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON. AND
I WAS PLACED IN FOSTER CARE FROM
THE AGE OF EIGHT UNTIL LIGHTS
OUT AT EIGHTEEN AND BACK THEN
THEY JUST KICKED YOU OUT ON YOUR
EIGHTEENTH BIRTHDAY. SO KIDS IN
NEED OF DEFENSE INC USED SOME OF
THEIR GRANT MONIES. IN A
PARTICULAR INNOVATIVE WAY AS YOU
MAY KNOW FOSTER CARE KIDS GET
MOVED AROUND A LOT FROM
INDIVIDUAL HOMES TO GROUP HOMES
SOMETIMES EVEN JUVENILE
FACILITIES. THE LAWYERS CAN'T
KEEP UP WITH THEM THEY SOMETIMES
LOSE CONTACT WITH THEM THOUGHT
KIDS IN NEED OF DEFENSE IN TO
USE SOME OF THEIR INNOVATIVE
GRANT MONIES TO PROVIDE
CELLPHONES TO THESE CHILDREN SO
THEY CAN REMAIN IN CONTACT WITH
THEIR CLIENTS AND- VICE VERSA
OTHER CLIENTS REMAIN. IN CONTACT
WITH THEIR ATTORNEYS- AND IF I
HAD MORE TIME I WOULD TELL YOU
MORE ABOUT ALL THE AMAZING AND
CREATIVE WAYS WE- PROVIDE THE
STAFF TO THE LEGAL AID
ORGANIZATIONS YOU HEARD- ADAM
MURRAY FROM- INNER CITY ON HOW
THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME
OF THAT CRAP MANY- AND IT'S-
JUST GREAT WORK- AND WE HOPE
THAT YOU CONTINUE TO. FIND THIS
INNOVATIVE AND- IN. GROW WELL
WELL CELLS REALLY WONDER THANK
YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR
REPRESENTING YOUR ORGANIZATION-
LET'S SEE. SO THE STATE IS
RELYING ON- LEGAL AID- FOR
ASSISTANCE- INCLUDING OBJECTION
DEFENSE. AND NOW THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CARE
COURT- INCLUDES A RIGHT TO
COUNSEL- WHAT DO YOU THINK IS
THE CAPACITY OF LEGAL AID TO
MEET THOSE NEEDS. WHAT WE KNOW
IS THAT IT TAKES TIME TO HIRE A
LEGAL AID LAWYER AND THERE'S A
SHORTAGE OF LEGAL AID LAWYERS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING
THIS LOAN REPAYMENT ASSISTANCE
PROGRAM SO THAT THERE IS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR. BEING ABLE TO
OFFER LOAN REPAYMENT ASSISTANCE
THAT THE PROGRAM PAYS FOR BUT IN
A TAX ADVANTAGE WAY AND WE
BELIEVE THAT WILL THEN ALLOW
MORE ATTORNEYS TO WORK IN LEGAL
AID PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY WILL
NOT FACE THE SEVEN HUNDRED OR
EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS OR MORE A
MONTH THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY A
LOAN REPAYMENT- SO HOW HAVE YOU
SEEN ORGANIZATIONS ADOPT TO. THE
GROWING DEMAND EVEN IF IT'S NOT
AT THE PRE PANDEMIC LEVEL BUT
THE GROWING DEMAND- WHICH-
CLEARLY IS HAPPENING THAT WAY AS
WAS TESTIFIED TO BY. ON THE
FOLKS ON THE PANEL BEFORE SO HOW
DO YOU SEE ALL OF. ALL OF THESE
NEEDS HOW DO WITH ORGANIZATIONS
ADAPTING TO THEM SO I THINK I
THINK YOU HEARD SOME GOOD
EXAMPLES OF THAT- FROM THE PRIOR
PANEL AS WELL WHERE PEOPLE ARE
LOOKING AT CREATIVE WAYS TO-
RETHINK HOW THEY PROVIDE FOR
EXAMPLE EVICTION DEFENSE- THOSE
LEGAL SERVICES IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA REPRESENTATIVE TALKED
ABOUT. HAVING A SPECIFIC UNIT
THAT COULD FOCUS ON ADDICTION
DEFENSE AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER
IN THAT WORK I THINK ADAM MARIE
SIMILARLY TALKED ABOUT HAVING
SOME HUBS IN LA WHERE. SPECIFIC
LEGAL AID ORGANIZATIONS WERE
PROVIDING SERVICES IN SPECIFIC
COURTS I THINK ALL OF THOSE HELP
IT'S ALSO LOOKING AT THE RATE OF
ACCESS TO JUSTICE TOOLS AND
USING THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO
PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE SO I
KNOW WHAT DISABILITY RIGHTS
CALIFORNIA WHERE I. OF WAS THAT
IT DIRECTOR- WE CREATED A-
SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO
WERE SKILLED TO PROVIDE THAT
INITIAL INFORMATION AND
ASSISTANCE WE CREATED A SYSTEM
BY WHICH- IT WAS IN THE SYSTEM
OF CALLING PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH
BUT PEOPLE COULD. CALM HAVE A-
INDICATE THE AREA THAT THEY HAVE
A PROBLEM IN A PARALEGAL WOULD
SPEAK TO THEM- IN IN THE
LANGUAGE THAT THEY PREFERRED-
AND GET THEM THE KIND OF QUICK
ADVICE THAT THEY MIGHT NEED
WHILE THEY WERE WAITING TO GET
AN APPOINTMENT WITH WITH A
LAWYER SO THAT TIME LINE TOWARD
MASS. MISSED YOU ALSO HEARD
ABOUT INNOVATIONS ABOUT TRYING
TO PROVIDE WAYS IN WHICH PEOPLE
COULD FILE. AN ANSWER SONORA OF
AFFECTION CAN TICKET BY CASES
THAT- ADAM TALKED ABOUT IN LA SO
I THINK IT'S LOOKING AT ALL OF
THOSE KINDS OF TOOLS ABOUT HOW
WE CAN PROVIDE. AS MUCH ACCESS
TO LEGAL AID- AS WE CAN AND AT
THE SAME TIME TRY AND ADDRESS
THE NEEDS FOR INNOVATIVE
THINKING INFRASTRUCTURE AND-
ADDRESS THE STUDENT DEBT CRISIS
THAT LEGALLY LAWYERS ARE
PARTICULARLY FACE. BECAUSE IT IT
SEEMS LIKE THE CONNECTION TO THE
SYSTEM. AND THE COORDINATION OF
ALL THE WORK. TO LOOK AT THE
SYSTEM IN ADDITION TO THE
INDIVIDUAL CASES S. IS REALLY
NEEDED- I WAS AT THE STANLEY
MOSK. RECORD A COUPLE OF WEEKS-
JUDGMENT ON IS WAS THERE AND
OTHERS. SB YOU KNOW WE GOT TO
SAY OF. THE SELF WHAT IS THE
THOUGHT SELF HELP- AREAS AND
HELP PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THAT. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S
SUCH A BIG. HUGE GROWING ISSUE.
OF THE RIGHT TO COUNSEL. ON THAT
IF WE DON'T DO IT. ALL TOGETHER
IN A MUCH MORE COORDINATED WAY
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS. THE
SYSTEM WHAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE OF
THE SYSTEM. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY
THOUGHTS. ON THAT. WELL I THINK
I AND I'M NOT AS A MAN OF
BRITISH COUNCIL THE ACT. JEFF
COMMISSION BY SOMETHING THINK
LIKE. A LOT OF THE LAWYER THAT
ARE IN LOS SPECIAL BUT FIRST
GENERATION IMMIGRANT LAW
STUDENTS THAT ARE. WANT TO SERVE
THEIR COMMUNITY THEY WENT THERE
WILL THIRD LETTER SAY I WANT TO
SERVE MY COMMUNITY AND THE KIDS
CAN BIG. GREG HERE WITH TWO
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND
THAT THEY HAD NO FAMILY SUPPORT
. THEY ARE THAT'S WHY THEY'RE IT
DID LARGER AND THAT'S WHETHER
DEBT IS LARGER- AND SO WE LOSE
THEM TO. THE BIG FIRMS- AND
DON'T THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GO-
WHERE THEIR HEART WAS WHICH IS
TO GO SERVE THE COMMUNITY
ESPECIALLY WITH. THEIR PARENTS
SAYING YOU WENT TO LAW SCHOOL TO
GO MAKE SOME MONEY- SO IN THIS
SENSE IF WE WOULD HELP FIND SOME
OF THAT- LLOYD LOAN REPAYMENT WE
WHAT WE COULD KEEP SOME OF
THESE- STUDENTS THAT DEFINITELY
WENT TO A SCHOOL. WITH THAT
SENSE OF SERVING THE COMMUNITY
THINKING THE SYSTEM- SO WE DON'T
HAVE THE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS. IN
SIR AND- DISTRICT COURT QUESTION
FOR YOU JUDGE READERS SO USED TO
TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE KIDS IN
NEED INCORRECT FINDING. GOOD
GOOD ACTORS. RIGHT JERRY WE
WE'VE HAD COME. OVER THE COURSE
BUT JUST ABOUT FOR THE COST OF
PRO- AND GOVERNOR'S MANSION. WAS
WAS GOOD AND YOU KNOW PROPOSED
TO STRIP OUT. ANY FORTY MILLION
SO WE COMMITTED LAST YEAR I I'VE
BEEN ACOSTA DID YOU KNOW WE'RE
GOING TO. ADVOCATE VERY
STRONGLY. TO RETAIN THOSE FUNDS
ARE GUY DRIVING ORGANIZATION
INCREASES FUNDS MATERIALLY BUT
WHAT WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP IF
ANY BETWEEN. THE KIDS IN THE
PROGRAM AND THE COST OF PROGRAM.
WILL GIVE ME DEFINITELY ON THE
PROVIDE REPRESENTATION FOR THOSE
KIDS WERE CUTS AS MORE OF AN
ADVOCATE- WHERE THEY ARE. AT
THAT AS WE REPRESENTING THEM BUT
THEY OVER YOUR EVELYN
REPRESENTING THE COURT THERE
ACTUALLY BUT NOT AS AN ATTORNEY
. NOTICES IS THAT THIS IS IN IS
THERE OUR ACT ATTORNEY FOR
OFFICER BUT IS THERE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN KNOW CAUSES
A BY OF BRITISH BECAUSE STATE.
IS THEIR RELATION TO COUNTY
CUSTOM PROGRAM AND THE KEY IN
THE PROGRAM YOU KNOW THEY ALL
LOOK TO ANOTHER WAY ACTUALLY
SHUFFLING WORK THEM BUT IT IS ON
STEP ENTITIES. ITS ILLEGAL AID
OR- POLLUTION. THANKS YOU WORK
IN THE- THANK YOU YEAH. I DON'T
HAVE. IN THE FOR QUESTIONS- JUST
YOU. THE FINAL WORD- YOU SPEND A
LOT OF TO SET. WHEN MAKE SURE
THAT WE HEAR. WHAT EVER YOU.
WANT TO SHARE WITH US. HOW TO
SAVE CLEARLY AGAIN THANK YOU FOR
THE SUPPORT YOU'VE PROVIDED TO
LEGAL AID OVER THE YEARS THANK
YOU FOR THE INNOVATION
INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY THAT I
THINK YOU CAN SEE HAS MADE A
REAL DIFFERENCE. AND REALLY WANT
TO ENCOURAGE THE CREATION OF A
WAY IN WHICH- GOOD LOANS CAN BE
REPAID FOR- THE THEORY LAWYERS
WE NEED TO RECRUIT TO WORK IN
LEGAL AID PROGRAMS AND CREATING
THIS. REALLY COST EFFECTIVE L.
RAP I MEAN THE NEW COST TO THE
STATE WOULD BE TWO HUNDRED AND
FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS- WE WOULD
REALLY MAKE A SIGNIFICANT
DIFFERENCE IN BEING ABLE TO.
INCREASE THE NUMBER OF LEGAL AID
LAWYERS INCREASE LEGALLY LAWYERS
IN STAYING IN LEGAL AID WHICH
MEANS THEY CAN KEEP THE
EXPERTISE WITHIN LEGAL AID. AND
MOST IMPORTANTLY THAN PROVIDE
THAT KIND OF CAPACITY THAT.
INDIGENT CALIFORNIANS NEED- TO
ADDRESS THEIR LEGAL NEEDS. GREAT
JUDGE OTHER STAFFERS HAVE THEY
DON'T KEEP IT OPEN JUST PUT AN
END TO THAT PASS THAT OFF NOW.
SO THAT WAS THAT ONLY. OKAY AND
TODAY. YEAH IS. TWO OF US GOING
OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH REALLY.
IT TIME AND ALL OF YOUR- OKAY
MORE MORE. FROM TO. ITEMS COUNTY
LAW LIVE. WE WILL BEGIN WITH
JANICE SMITH. PRESIDENT THE
COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA COUNTY LAW
LIBRARIANS AND DIRECTOR OF THE
STANISLAUS COUNTY LAW LIBRARY.
AND THEN- WE WILL ALSO HEAR FROM
MICHAEL CORBETT FROM THE COUNCIL
COUNTY COUNTY LAW LIBRARIANS
WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU. OKAY.
YOU HAVE TO PRESS THE BUTTON.
THERE WE GO THE- GOOD AFTERNOON
MADAM CHAIR SENATORS THANK YOU
FOR LETTING ME BE HERE AND TALK
ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
LOVE MOST IN LIFE. MY NAME IS
JAN SCHMIDT I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
THE STANISLAUS COUNTY LAW
LIBRARY AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE
COUNCIL THE CALIFORNIA COUNTY
LAW LIBRARIANS WITH ME AS
MICHAEL CORBAT ARE LONG TIME
ADVOCATE. IN EIGHTEEN NINETY ONE
THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE
DEMONSTRATED ITS COMMITMENT TO
ACCESS TO JUSTICE BY PROVIDING
ALL CALIFORNIANS WITH THE MEANS
TO ACCESS RELIABLE. ACCURATE AND
TIMELY LEGAL INFORMATION. THEY
DID THAT BY ESTABLISHING THE
COUNTY LAW LIBRARY AND THEY WERE
THE FIRST IN THE NATION TO DO SO
. FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES HAVE ALWAYS
PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE IN
ENSURING ACCESS TO THE TOOLS THE
TECHNOLOGY AND THE PERSONAL
SERVICE IS THAT IT REQUIRES. TO
UNDERSTAND AND EXERCISE OUR
LEGAL RIGHTS. EVERY DAY COUNTY
LAW LIBRARIES HELP LOW INCOME
AND MODERATE MEANS INDIVIDUALS
WHO ARE FACING LIFE ALTERING
LEGAL ISSUES AND THEY'RE DOING
IT WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY AND
WITHOUT ANY MEANS TO HIRE ONE.
WHETHER IT'S TO CONSERVE AN
ELDERLY PARENT WITH DEMENTIA. TO
COMPLY WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS
REGULATION. ANSWERED COLLECTION
DEBT LAWSUIT. AT FIGHT
DEPORTATION OF FILE A
RESTRAINING ORDER TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES AT HOME OR AT WORK OR
TO SIMPLY FIND SOME RELIEF FROM
THE ANXIETY OF NOT UNDERSTANDING
A COMPLEX SYSTEM OF LAWS. IN AN
INTERNETWORK FILLED WITH
MISINFORMATION. COUNTY LAW
LIBRARIES ARE THERE TO HELP THEM
. UNCONSTRAINED BY INCOME OR
ISSUE LIMITATIONS COUNTY LAW
LIBRARIES PROVIDE ACCESS. AND
ASSISTANCE TO ANYONE WITH A
LEGAL ISSUE REGARDLESS OF THEIR
EDUCATION THEIR SOCIO ECONOMIC
STATUS THEIR INCOME OR THE
NATURE OF THEIR CAUSE. BUT
WITHOUT YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT
THE FUTURE OF THAT FREE ACCESS
IS IN JEOPARDY. COUNTY LAW
LIBRARIES RELY ON A SMALL
PORTION OF CIVIL COURT FILING
FEES TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF THEIR
PATRONS WHEN THEY WERE FIRST
ESTABLISHED THAT PORTION WAS
UNDER THE CONTROL OF LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. AND IT ALLOWED FOR
PERIODIC INCREASES HOWEVER IN
TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT WITH THE
ADVENT OF THE UNIFORM CIVIL
FILING FEE ACT LOCAL CONTROL WAS
TRANSFERRED TO THE STATE AND
THERE WAS NO MECHANISM THERE FOR
INCREASES AT ALL. THE STATE DID
ESTABLISH A TASK FORCE TO STUDY
FILING FEES AND THE CHARGES THAT
TASK FORCE WITH MAKING A
RECOMMENDATION FOR LAW LIBRARY
FUNDING. AFTER CONVENING IN TWO
THOUSAND AND SEVEN. IT ISSUED
THE FOLLOWING FINDING. WITHOUT
IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION OF A
FILING FEE INCREASE FOR
IDENTIFICATION OF ALTERNATIVE
REVENUE SOURCES LAW LIBRARIES
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THEIR
INCREASED OPERATING COSTS IN TWO
THOUSAND AND EIGHT. THE TASK
FORCE THEN DISBANDED WITHOUT
EVER MAKING IT ACTIONABLE
RECOMMENDATION. BUT THEY'RE
FINDING WAS INDEED CORRECT
REVENUES DID NOT KEEP PACE WITH
RISING OPERATING COSTS. AND IN
FACT DUE TO INCREASES IN FEE
WAIVERS EXPANSION OF SMALL
CLAIMS A DIMINISHING NUMBER OF
FILINGS AND A DECLINING ECONOMY
LONG LIBRARY REVENUE PLUMMETED
BY MORE THAN 40% OVER THE NEXT
DECADE. FINALLY IN TWO THOUSAND
AND EIGHT MANY LAW LIBRARIES
FOUND THEMSELVES ON THE BRINK OF
CLOSURE. THIS COMMITTEE AND ITS
ASSEMBLY COUNTERPART INTERVENE
AND RECOMMENDED IS SIXTEEN POINT
FIVE MILLION DOLLAR BACK FILL OF
SOME OF THE REVENUES THAT COUNTY
LAW LIBRARIES HAD LOST. OVER THE
LAST FIVE YEARS. CAN TO LAW
LIBRARIES HAVE RECEIVED FOR
ALLOCATIONS IN TOTAL THREE FOR
SIXTEEN POINT FIVE MILLION AND
ONE FOR KOPET RELIEF IN THE
AMOUNT OF SEVEN MILLION. THESE
ONE TIME ALLOCATIONS PASSED
UNANIMOUSLY WITH BROAD
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. IN BOTH
BUDGET COMMITTEES. SO THAT
LEASES OF COURSE TO THE REASON
THAT I AM HERE TODAY. WITHOUT
SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING THE
PROGRESS MADE TOWARD STABILIZING
OUR COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES WILL BE
LOST AT A TIME WHEN ACCESS IS
CLEARLY NEEDED MOST. TO ON
BEHALF OF THE MORE THAN FIVE
HUNDRED THOUSAND CALIFORNIANS
WHO SEEK OUR HELP EVERY HERE WE
ARE ASKING FOR SIXTEEN POINT
FIVE MILLION DOLLAR PROCREATION
IN THE TWENTY TWENTY THREE
TWENTY TWENTY FOUR BUDGET. I
ESPECIALLY THOUGH WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
HERE FOR YOUR PAST SUPPORT AND
FOR YOUR CLEAR COMMITMENT AND
CONCERN OVER ACCESS TO JUSTICE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU.
MICHAEL GOOD AFTERNOON MICHAEL
CORVETTE ADVOCATE FOR THE
COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA COUNTY LAW
LIBRARIES- ONE THING THAT. HAS
HAPPENED SINCE TWO THOUSAND
EIGHT. IS THAT LAW LIBRARIES
HAVE FOUND THEMSELVES IN THE
POSITION OF TRYING TO ADJUST. TO
DECREASE REVENUE. THESE
ADJUSTMENTS HAVE INCLUDED
CUTTING BACK ON HOURS CUTTING
BACK ON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES
CUTTING BACK ON THE MATERIALS
THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE
PUBLIC. SO THAT. TO SOME EXTENT-
COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES HAVE FOUND
THEMSELVES IN A POSITION OF
BEING STAGNATED. WHEN THE NEED
IS EVEN GREATER AS TIME GOES ON
. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE
COUNTY ALL THE LIBRARIES HAVE
TRIED TO STRESS. IS THAT THEY
ARE SORT OF A CENTERPIECE IN THE
ACCESS TO JUSTICE. OF THE
SITUATION. THEY ARE. THE
CENTERPIECE TO THE EXTENT THAT
THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE-
WITH THE CORKS. THAT COMMUNICATE
WITH THE LEGAL LATEST SOCIETY'S
SELF HELP GROUPS AND ALL OF
THAT- AND- IT SEEMS JUST-
ASHAMED THAT. WE CAN'T FIND A
WAY TO GET PERMANENT FUNDING. IN
A WAY TO KEEP US UP BUT WE FIND
OURSELVES ASKING FOR
SUPPLEMENTAL ONE TIME FUNDING.
EVERY YEAR YOU'VE BEEN GRACIOUS
ENOUGH TO EXTEND IT BUT THE
POINT IS THAT THE SIXTEEN POINT
FIVE. THAT WAS GOOD. IN THAT
BROUGHT US UP TO WHERE WE WANTED
TO BE IN TWO THOUSAND. EIGHT
FIFTEEN IS NOT DO IT TODAY SO
WE'RE ACTUALLY EVEN THOUGH THE
LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN
APPROPRIATING MONEY FOR US
PERIODICALLY WE'RE STILL FALLING
BEHIND AND BECAUSE OF THE
INFLATION RATE OF THE DAY WE'RE
FALLING BEHIND IT EVEN GREATER
PACE SO WE'RE HERE TO ASK YOU TO
PLEASE. EXTEND TO US OF. YOUR
GOOD GRACES AND FUND THIS ONE
TIME APPROPRIATION FORCE ONCE
AGAIN THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH
VERY MUCH- JUST A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS AND FIRST OF ALL THANK
YOU. FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO OF
FOR THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA-
TWO QUESTIONS- THREE THE WHAT
ARE THE- HOW OR THE LAW
LIBRARIES PREPARING FOR THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CARE ACT
IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIFIC. THAT
YOU ALL ARE DOING THERE THERE IS
MOSTLY- AT AT THE FIRST STAGES
WERE INITIATING OURSELVES OUT OF
WE ARE EDUCATING OURSELVES ABOUT
THE CARE ACT. AND WE'RE LOOKING
TOWARD WHAT FAMILY REQUESTS ARE
GOING TO BE BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE
A RIGHT TO COUNSEL FOR
INDIVIDUALS. THE BIGGEST MEANS
THAT I SEE IN THAT I HAVE
FORESEEN IS THAT FAMILIES WILL
COME. TO ASK FOR WHAT THEY'RE
WHAT THEIR BROTHERS OR SISTERS
OR HUSBANDS RIGHTS ARE AND THE
FAMILY NEEDS WON'T NECESSARILY
BE MATT- BY THE ATTORNEY WHO HAS
BEEN ASSIGNED AN CARE COURT.
OKAY SO THEY STILL HAVE NEEDS AS
YOU'VE HEARD WITH HOUSING THEY
STILL HAVE NEEDS WITH NEEDING TO
CONSERVE ARTISTIC KIDS THEY
STILL HAVE NEEDS WITH DEBT
COLLECTION THAT IS AN ADDRESS TO
THROUGH THE CARE COURT- AND SO.
GETTING MORE AND MORE SELF HELP
MATERIALS AND TO THE EXTENT THAT
WE CAN THOSE OF US WHO CAN HIRE
ARE HIRING- BUT AGAIN THERE'S
GREAT LIMITATIONS ON ON HOW FAR
THAT DOLLAR IS STRETCHING-
SIXTEEN POINT FIVE MILLION TOOK
US BACK. UP TO WHAT WE RECEIVED
IN TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT BUT IT
COUNTS NOT AT ALL FOR THE AMOUNT
THAT LEGAL PUBLISHERS CHARGE AND
THEIR RATE OF INFLATION TOWARD
THE INCREASES IN STAFFING COSTS.
SO GOOD- WE JUST HAD- A LARGE
DISCUSSION PANEL ONE- EVICTION
DEFENSE. IS THAT PART OF OR WHAT
THE HARD OF WHAT YOU THE LIVE
LIBRARIES PROVIDE IT'S A HUGE
PART OF WHAT WE DO AND YOU WERE
TALKING ABOUT EDUCATIONAL PIECES
FOR LANDLORDS AND FOR TENANTS.
WE RUN MOST LAW LIBRARIES RUN.
CLINICS FOR LANDLORDS AND HOW TO
WRITE A PROPER LEASE WHAT YOUR
RESPONSIBILITIES ARE WE RAN
TENANTS RIGHTS CLINICS AND-
EVERY LAW LIBRARY DOES IT IN A
LITTLE DIFFERENT WAY LOS ANGELES
COUNTY PUTS A LOT OF THERE'S
ONLINE SO THAT THEY CAN BE
VIEWED ON DEMAND- IN PROGRAM AND
THROUGH A JUNIOR COLLEGE AND
THEIR ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAM.
AND SO WE TRY REALLY HARD TO
EDUCATE TENANTS ABOUT. WHAT
THEY'RE GETTING INTO WHEN THEY
SIGN A LEASE AND WE TRY REALLY
HARD TO EDUCATE LANDLORDS- AND
MOST OF THOSE WHO REALLY WANT
THE EDUCATION- SEEK US OUT IT'S
THOSE WHO REALLY WANT TO AVOID
THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO.
WE HAVE TO WORK ON- AND SPEAKING
OF THE FUNDING I KNOW YOUR- YOU
MENTIONED- MAKING THE REQUEST
FOR A ONE TIME. BUT SINCE THIS
IS BEEN GOING ON FOR. A NUMBER
OF YEARS ARE THERE ANY OTHER
IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT HOW.
TO CONTINUE TO. PROVIDE THE
SERVICE HOW TO CONTINUE TO EXIST
BECAUSE- IF YOU'RE ONLY GETTING
THIS PERIODICALLY. AT SOME POINT
IT MIGHT CATCH UP IN YOUR IN A
WORSE SITUATION SO. WE'VE BEEN
WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE
SINCE TWO THOUSAND AND TO TRY
AND IDENTIFY HIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. THAT WE CAN ATTACH
TO- BE IT PART OF THE JUDICIARY
BAIGENT- AND SOME LEGISLATION TO
INCLUDE US IN THE JUDICIARY
BUDGET WHETHER AS A SUPPLEMENT
OR- ARE YOU KNOW OVERALL
FUNDING- BUT THAT'S THE MOST
LIKELY PLACE. AND SO OUTSIDE OF
THE GENERAL FUND IT'S DIFFICULT
BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO
INCREASE FEES BECAUSE THOSE
IMPACTS- THE PEOPLE THAT WE
SERVE GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF THE
FEES YOU- THE- FOURTEENTH THE
BILL HAVE TO PAY. SO WE CHARGE
NO FEES. BUT WHEN SOMEONE FILES
A LAWSUIT IN SUPERIOR COURT THEY
PAY FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY
SEVEN DOLLARS. AND WHEN SOMEONE
FILES AN ANSWER THEY PAY FOUR
HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN DOLLARS
IN STANISLAUS COUNTY WE GET TO
TWENTY SEVEN DOLLARS OF THAT
FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN
OKAY. ARE FILING. IN SOME
COUNTIES IT'S MORE IN SOME
COUNTIES IT'S LAST AND THAT WAS
BASED ON LOCAL JURISDICTION AT
AT THE TIME THE FUNDS THAT WERE
ALLOCATED THE TIMES LOCAL
JURISDICTION WAS TRANSFERRED. SO
BUT THE AVERAGE IS TWENTY NINE
DOLLARS SO WE SUPPOSE WE SUBSIST
ON FIFTY EIGHT DOLLARS A LAWSUIT
. THANK YOU'RE YOUR THINKING FOR
WE NEED SOME MORE LAWSUITS HERE
WE D. IF WE WHEN WE- DON'T.
MONTHS NOW. I KNOW I KNOW THAT'S
NOT WHAT YOU WANT IS- OKAY IT I
APPRECIATE THAT SENATOR ANNE.
JUST THINKING. WE WERE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU FOR
COMING AND BE WITH US IN PERSON
ALL THANK YOU AND THE HEARING IS
THAT YOU SHOULD SEE IS. STAY
WITH US THIS WHOLE AFTERNOON
AND- OBVIOUSLY WE WILL
ABSOLUTELY SERIOUSLY LOOK AT. AT
THE NEED HERE. WE WITH. GREAT A
WARM ON TO I FOR WHICH IS FEE.
AND WE HAVE- STEPHANIE KUMBLE'S
LOUIS AN ASSISTANT CLINICAL
PROFESSOR OF LAW ON THE POLICY
ADVOCACY CLINIC. AT THE UC
BERKELEY SCHOOL OF LAW. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIRED ROSTO SENATORS
JOINING IN SAY OCTOBER MY NAME
IS STEPHANIE CONVERSELY AND I AM
AN ASSISTANT CLINICAL PROFESSOR
AT BERKELEY LAW. WHERE I COULD
RECORD POLICY ADVOCACY CLINIC OF
THE FORTY BEGIN I JUST WANT TO
THANK THE PRIOR PANELISTS IN THE
SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE DISCUSSION
AROUND LEGAL AID AND LOAN
REPAYMENT PROGRAMS. I WORKED AS
A LEGALLY LEGAL AID ATTORNEY
RIGHT AFTER LAW SCHOOL AND AM
STILL PAYING OFF MY LAW SCHOOL
LOANS WHICH ARE. WELL OVER A
HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND
DOLLARS. COULD NOT BE IN THE
POSITION I AM TODAY WITHOUT AND
I AM LAW SCHOOLS A LOAN
REPAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM SO
REALLY AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING
THAT ON THE AGENDA- BUT I AM
HERE TO TESTIFY ABOUT. DEBT FREE
JUSTICE CALIFORNIA'S REQUESTS TO
ELIMINATE THE REMAINING
ADMINISTRATIVE FEES IMPOSED ON
PEOPLE BY OUR. CRIMINAL LEGAL
SYSTEM HERE IN CALIFORNIA. OVER
FORTY DIFFERENT CRIMINAL
ADMINISTRATOR FEES STILL BE. IN
THE STATE INCLUDING FEES FOR
COUNSELING PROGRAMS RECORD
SEALING AND PAROLE SUPERVISION.
THESE THESE ARE NOT MEANT TO BE
PUNITIVE OR TO SERVE ANY
ACCOUNTABILITY PURPOSE THERE
SOLELY INTENDED TO COVER THE
COSTS OF PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.
HOWEVER MOST PEOPLE EXT WHO- OUR
ORDER THESE FEES EXPERIENCE THEM
AS ANOTHER FORM OF PUNISHMENT.
ESPECIALLY SINCE MOST PEOPLE
WERE ORDERED TO PAY SIMPLY DO
NOT HAVE THE MEANS. OVER 80% OF
PEOPLE IN THE CRIMINAL LEGAL
SYSTEM ARE INDIGENT AND QUALIFY
FOR THE SERVICES OF A PUBLIC
DEFENDER. AND SO BECAUSE MOST
PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY HE
ENDS IN LIGHT OF THE RESOURCES
AND STAFFING THAT'S INVOLVED
WITH THE ASSESSMENT AND
COLLECTION OF FEES. MANY
COUNTIES IN COURTS ACROSS THE
STATE ACTUALLY RECEIVE MINIMAL
NET REVENUE FROM THESE FEES. WE
ALSO KNOW THAT FEED. BECOMES
MORE STABLE OVER TIME. SO IN
ALAMEDA COUNTY FOR EXAMPLE
PIECES THAT ARE LESS THAN A YEAR
OLD HAVE AN 8% COLLECTION RATE.
FOR ONCE THOSE CASES HAD TWENTY
FOUR MONTHS OLD OR TWO YEARS
THEY DROPPED THREE PERCENT. AND
ONCE THE CASE IS THREE YEARS OLD
THE COLLECTION RATE DROPS 2%
JUST LAST WEEK THE U. S.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ISSUED A
DEAR COLLEAGUE LETTER AND NAMING
THE DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS OF FEES
AND FINES INCLUDING THE
ESCALATING DATA. LOSS OF
EMPLOYMENT HOUSING AND NEGATIVE
IMPACTS TO CREDIT. IN THEIR
LETTER THEY KNOW WHAT IS EVIDENT
FROM DATA HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
THAT HE'S BEEN FINE
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES AND PEOPLE OF
COLOR WHO ARE OVERREPRESENTED IN
THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM. AND
YOU ALSO FACE ECONOMIC OBSTACLES
ARISING FROM DISCRIMINATION BIAS
INSISTENT SYSTEMIC INEQUITIES.
THE DEPARTMENT OLD LEE
RECOMMENDS THAT JURISDICTIONS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY CONSIDER
ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO OBTAIN
RESOURCES OTHER THAN THROUGH THE
ASSESSMENTS OF FINES AND FEES- I
WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO ATTEND A
CONFERENCE LAST WEEK WHERE THIS
LETTER WAS RELEASED. AND THE
DIRECTOR DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE
FOR THE ACCESS TO JUSTICE
PROGRAM LIFTED UP CALIFORNIA AS
A LEADER. I STATE IS ALREADY
STARTED DOWN THIS PATH OF
SHIFTING AWAY FROM FEES AND
FINES. SINCE TWENTY EIGHTEEN
CALIFORNIA HAS ELIMINATED ALL
FEES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE
JUVENILE SYSTEM AND THEIR
FAMILIES. AND THANKS TO THE
LEADERSHIP OF SENATOR ALSO UNDER
SENATE BILL TWELVE NINETY WE
ALSO DISHED CHARGE THREE HUNDRED
AND SIXTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN
DEBT. FROM. PREVIOUSLY ORDERED
JUVENILE FEES. OVER THE LAST FEW
AND THREE BILLS ASSEMBLY BILLS
SIXTY NINE. ONE SEVENTY SEVEN
AND ONE NINETY NINE SEVEN
ELIMINATED NEARLY HALF OF THE
NINETY CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATIVE
FEES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY
AUTHORIZED UNDER STATE LAW.
INCLUDING FEES FOR
REPRESENTATION BY COUNSEL
PROBATION SUPERVISION AND
INCARCERATION. THAT REDUCES
CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN ACTIVELY
MONITORING IMPLEMENTATION OF
THESE BILLS TO UNDERSTAND
COMPLIANCE BUT ALSO TO DOCUMENT
THE RELIEF EXPERIENCE BY
CALIFORNIANS ACROSS THE STATE.
AND BASED ON RESPONSES TO RECORD
REQUESTS WE ESTIMATE THAT THESE
BILLS HAVE COLLECTIVELY
DISCHARGE SEVENTEEN BILLION
DOLLARS IN DEBT. WHICH IS I
THINK A HUGE SUCCESS BUT ALSO A
SOBERING REALIZATION THAT THE
STATE HAS BEEN LOOMING OVER SO
MANY COMMUNITIES FOR SO LONG.
THESE BILLS ALSO INCLUDE
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS- SO FIRST
FOR THE COUNTIES TO SHOW ACTUAL
REVENUE THAT WAS LOST FROM FEES
REPEALED PRIOR TO THE BILL'S
ENACTMENT. IN SECOND BECAUSE
THESE BILLS WERE PASSED THROUGH
THE BUDGET- MONEY WAS SET ASIDE
FOR COUNTIES TO COVER ALLEGE
LOST REVENUE FROM THESE FEES- SO
FOR COUNTIES TO SHOW HOW THE
ACTUAL FUNDING WAS SPENT. WHICH
DEPARTMENTS RECEIVE THE MONEY
HOW MUCH AND WHAT PROGRAMS OR
SERVICES IT WENT TOWARDS. OUR
UNDERSTANDING FROM STOP IS THAT
COMPLIANCE WITH THESE REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS HAS BEEN MEDIOCRE
AT BEST- AND COUNTIES PROVIDE
DATA THAT ARE EITHER INCOMPLETE
OR INCONSISTENT AND SOME COUNTY
SIMPLY JUST NOT ME DID NOT MEET
THEIR REPORTING. DEADLINES
WHATSOEVER. SO THE COLLISION TO
RESORT TO FOLLOWING UP ON ITS
OWN TO RECORD ACT REQUESTS
REVIEW OF BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
AGENDAS AND MINUTES TO
UNDERSTAND IMPLEMENTATION- I CAN
APPRECIATE THE FACT THE DATA
SYSTEMS ARE OLD AND THAT IT
TAKES A LONG TIME TO GATHER THIS
INFORMATION. THE FIRST REPORTING
DEADLINE WAS NEARLY A YEAR AFTER
THE FIRST BILL EIGHTY TWO SIXTY
NINE WAS ENACTED- AND I THINK IF
THIS REVENUE STREAM WAS THAT
IMPORTANT TO COUNTY BUDGETS WE
WOULD EXPECT TO SEE MORE
DETAILED ACCOUNTING OR DATA ON
AMOUNTS COLLECTED- INTO THE
INABILITY TO MEET THESE
REQUIREMENTS I THINK RAISES
QUESTION ABOUT WHAT ADDITIONAL
OVERSIGHT IS NEEDED. TO ENSURE
THAT COUNTIES MEET WHAT IS ASKED
OF THEM. OR ALSO WHETHER SUCH
BATTLES NECESSARY GOING FORWARD
. AS CALIFORNIA COULD ITS WORK
TO UNRAVEL ITS HE AND BUYING
SCHEME. I THINK WE SHOULD BE
CONTINUE TO BE GUIDED BY WHAT WE
NOW- AND NOT MAKE POLICY
DECISIONS AROUND THE FEAR OF THE
EXCEPTION OR THE IDEA. OF THE
WEALTHY PERSON WHO CAMPAÑA. BUT
RATHER AROUND THE REALITY AND
THAT'S THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF CALIFORNIANS WHO ARE
PREDOMINATELY LOW INCOME. AND
OVERWHELMINGLY OVERWHELMINGLY
BLACK AND BROWN. TO CONTINUE TO
BE OVER POLICE AND FUNNELED INTO
THE SYSTEM AND IN TURN ARE
FORCED TO BEAR THE COST OF OUR
COURTS AND LEGAL SYSTEM. I THANK
YOU AGAIN FOR PUTTING THIS ITEM
ON THE AGENDA AND CONTINUE TO
PRIORITIZE THIS ISSUE IN
CALIFORNIA. AND I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- I JUST. AND THE LAST
POINT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT THE-
COUNTIES NOT. REPORTING AND- THE
FOLLOW UP THAT'S NEEDED TO FOR
THE OVERSIGHT WHAT'S THE- THE
IMPACT OF THAT MEAN THEY'RE NOT.
GETTING THE MONEY- TO FILL. THIS
CAN COME FROM THE FEES IS THAT.
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. SO THEY'RE
STILL GETTING THE MONEY I HAVE
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT
THEY NEED THIS REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS SO FOR EXAMPLE
EIGHTY EIGHTEEN SIXTY NINE SIXTY
FIVE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE
SENATE SIDE. WITH A METHODOLOGY
TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH EACH
COUNTY OFFICE ON POPULATION AND
OTHER DATA- SO THE REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS IS JUST KIND OF AN
INFORMATIONAL- AND EDUCATIONAL
PURPOSES ARE NOT CONDITIONED ON-
THE MONEY CONDITION ON WHETHER
OR NOT THEY PROVIDE THIS
INFORMATION AND SO. I THINK FOR
COUNTIES- NEED. MAYBE NO DIRECT
IMPACT BUT FOR IMPACTED PEOPLE
AND ADVOCATES WHO ARE TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND RELEASE AND WHAT'S
HAPPENING IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT
HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT THE
GAPS ARE. WHAT- OR WHAT'S
WORKING WELL. BUT THE BUT
THERE'S NOTHING THOSE FEES
AREN'T BEING CHARGED TWO
INDIVIDUALS. NO LONGER BEING
CHARGED EXCESSIVE FEES AREN'T
BEING CHARGED THE MONEY IS THERE
FOR THE COUNTIES- TO DEAL WITH
THE LOSS. OF THE FEES THROUGH-
THEY'RE NOT GIVING US A REPORT.
SO WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE IMPACT
OF ALL OF THAT. I MEAN I THINK
IT'S SWEET IT'S HARD TO SAY YOU
KNOW I THINK WHEN COUNTIES WHEN
WE WERE YOU KNOW MOVING THROUGH
THE LEGISLATURE AND THIS WAS UP
FOR DISCUSSION I THINK WE HEARD
TIME AND TIME AGAIN FROM CHINESE
IMPORTS. AT THE RELYING ON THE
SOURCE OF REVENUE AT AN ABSENT
DATE AT THE TIME ABSENT DATA NOW
I THINK THIS QUESTION OF WHETHER
THAT'S IN FACT THE CASE AND- IS
THIS MONEY GOING- SHOULD THIS
MONEY BE GOING ELSEWHERE WHERE
THERE'S NEED- SO I THINK THAT'S
THE IMPACT IN TERMS OF- YOU KNOW
WHAT WHAT WHAT CAN WE BE USING
THIS MONEY FOR OTHERWISE. OKAY
GREAT SO IT'S HARD TO GO BACK IN
AND SAY WHAT THERE ARE NO WROTE
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. RIGHT
THERE'S NO REPORT REQUIRED
THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GIVE US
THIS INFORMATION SO WE DON'T
KNOW COUNTY BY COUNTY WHAT. I
KNOW THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S
OFFICE HAS THE PARTICULAR
BREAKDOWN AND CAN PROBABLY
PROVIDE MORE DETAILED
INFORMATION ABOUT WHICH COUNTIES
THAT- I KNOW IN IN TRYING TO GET
A SENSE FROM THEM HOW MANY AND
WHAT THEY WERE GETTING I KNOW
THAT THEY WERE DISAPPOINTED- AND
WHAT THEY WERE SEEING. OKAY SO
THEY ARE REQUIRED. THEY'RE JUST
NOT DOING IT OKAY WELL I'M GLAD
YOU BROUGHT THAT DIRECTED TO ONE
WILL LOOK INTO IT. ALL RIGHT-
ANYTHING ELSE MISS COMPASS
BELIEVES. NOTICE AGAIN
APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THIS ON
THE AGENDA AND PASSING WORK AND
LOOK FORWARD TO COLLABORATING
I'M GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. THANK
YOU AND NOW WE MOVE ON TO. ITEM
FIVE. SEPARATELY. YES OKAY WE'RE
GONNA HERE TO SPRING. FINANCE
LETTERS RELATED TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WE HAVE
ITEM FIVE WHICH IS AMMUNITION
AUTHORIZATION PROGRAM FEE
INCREASE. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN
WITH CHRIS RYAN CHIEF OF
OPERATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE MISLEAD FROM THE ELLY
ELLS OFFICE. MR CLARK AND MR
JIMENEZ FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE. OKAY GREAT THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR CHRIS RYAN WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE NOT GIVE A
BRIEF OVERVIEW AND THEN WE HAVE
A ALISON- WITH ME TO- ANTHONY
OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS- SO THIS
PROPOSAL IS- RELATED TO THE
AMMUNITION AUTHORIZATION
PROGRAM. AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S A
GENERAL FUND LOAN REQUEST TO
SUPPORT THE OPERATIONS OF THE
PROGRAM. THE REQUESTED FOR EIGHT
POINT SIX MILLION GENERAL FUND
SPREAD OVER TWO YEARS- AND ALSO
IT IS TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE TO
AUTHORIZE THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE TO ADJUST THE FEE TO
SUPPORT THE OPERATIONS IN THE
FUTURE. SO WITH THAT I WILL TURN
TO LA- OR BACK TO YOU- OKAY.
MISLI YES AND I NEED ONLY WITH
THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S
OFFICE- SO IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE
THIRTEEN OF YOUR AGENDA THERE IS
A FIGURE THAT PROVIDES- AN
OVERVIEW OF THE AMMUNITION
SAFETY AND ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
FUN AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT
FIGURE. YOU CAN SEE THAT SINCE
IT'S BEEN CREATED THE AMOUNT OF
FEE REVENUES DEPOSITED HAVE NOT
BEEN SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT. THE
PROGRAM MUCH LESS TO REPAY THE
DEBT SO IF THE INCREASE IS
APPROPRIATE- AND FOR LEGISLATIVE
CONSIDERATION. HOWEVER WE DO
RECOMMEND THAT THE LEGISLATURE
REJECTS THE PROPOSED TRAILER
BILL LANGUAGE AUTHORIZING DOJ TO
ADJUST THE AMMUNITION PURCHASE
FEE- THROUGH THE REGULATORY
PROCESS AND THIS IS REALLY
BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT IT WOULD
REDUCE LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT OF
THE PROGRAM IN TERMS OF SETTING
THOSE FEW LEVELS. AND WE FIND
THAT THIS IS PARTICULARLY
IMPORTANT GIVEN THAT THE SPECIAL
FUND IS CONTINUOUSLY
APPROPRIATED WHICH MEANS OF THAT
DOJ DOES NOT NEED TO COME AND
SEEK LEGISLATIVE APPROVAL FOR
EXPENDITURES AS LONG AS THERE'S
REVENUES. AVAILABLE FOR INSTEAD
WE RECOMMEND THAT THE
LEGISLATURE CHANGE STATE LAW TO
INCREASE THE FEE. THIS APPROACH
INSTEAD WOULD- INSURE THAT THE
LEGISLATURE STILL RETAINS SOME
OVERSIGHT OF THE PROGRAM AND ITS
OPERATIONS SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS
OF SETTING THAT FEE LEVEL. AT
LEAST UNDER THE LAW. IS
INTERESTED AND IN DOING SO-
THEIR VARIOUS CONSIDERATIONS
THAT THEY CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT
WHILE THINKING ABOUT THAT
APPROPRIATE FEE LEVELS OF FOR
EXAMPLE. IS THERE A MAXIMUM PER
TRANSACTION FEE ON THE
LEGISLATURE IS INTERESTED IN- TO
THE LEGISLATURE BELIEVE THE
GENERAL FUND LOANS SHOULD BE
REPAID WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD
OF TIME. AS WELL AS AND WHEN YOU
KNOW THAT FEE INCREASE WILL GO
INTO EFFECT. SO AS JUST AS AN
EXAMPLE WE LOOKED AT KIND OF
DATA AND ASSUMING THAT THE
REQUESTED GENERAL ADDITIONAL
GENERAL FUND LOANS ARE PROVIDED.
WE ESTIMATED. THAT AN ADDITIONAL
FEE INCREASES OF A FEE INCREASE
OF FOUR DOLLARS FOR A TOTAL FIVE
DOLLAR FEE. WOULD SURFACE WOULD
BE SUFFICIENT TO GENERATE
REVENUE TO COVER COSTS AND
POTENTIALLY PREPAY THE GENERAL
FUND LOANS WITHIN FIFTEEN YEARS
WHILE A FEE INCREASE OF FIVE
DOLLARS FOR A TOTAL SIX DOLLAR
FEE. COULD POTENTIALLY REPAY
THEIR LOANS AND AROUND TEN YEARS
. THE PENDING THAT FEE. WE DO
RECOMMEND THAT THE LEGISLATURE
APPROVED THE ADMINISTRATION'S
PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE AN
ADDITIONAL GENERAL FUND LOAN AS
THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE PROGRAM
AND PREVENTED DECLINING- SERVICE
LEVELS. HOWEVER WE WOULD NOTE
THAT THE LEGISLATURE MIGHT WANT
TO ADJUST THE EXACT AMOUNT LOAN-
DEPENDING ON WHATEVER ACTION
THEY TAKE RELATED TO INCREASING
THE FEE. IS A QUICK EXAMPLE
THERE IF THE LEGISLATURE CHOSE
TO INCREASE THE FEE AS PART OF
THE TWENTY TWENTY THREE TWENTY
FOUR BUDGET AND HOW TO GO INTO
EFFECT RIGHT AWAY. THEN IT'S
POSSIBLE THAT ONLY ONE YEAR OF
GENERAL FUND LOAN RATHER THAN
TO- WOULD BE NEEDED. THE HAPPY
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME. SO WE'RE
FACING BOTH HOW THE- THE
DECISION WOULD BE MADE TO
INCREASE. THE FEE AS WELL AS THE
FEE ITSELF. I THINK THE KEY
THING THE KEY QUESTION ON THIS
ONE IS I THINK THAT THERE IS SO
THERE'S AGREEMENT THAT A FEE
INCREASE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE
RIGHT. SO I THINK THE KEY TO A
DISAGREEMENT- IN TERMS OF THIS
DISCUSSION IS THE MECHANISM BY
WHICH IT HAPPENS AND SO WE'RE
RECOMMENDING THAT THE
LEGISLATURE ACTUALLY CHANGE- THE
FEE- AND THE PROPOSED TRAILER
BILL LANGUAGE IS. WOULD PROVIDE
DOJ WITH THE AUTHORITY TO ADJUST
THAT THROUGH THE REGULATORY
PROCESS AND SO IT'S TWO
DIFFERENT APPROACHES RELATED TO
THAT THERE'S A SEPARATE CRIED
SEPARATE QUESTION RIGHT IN TERMS
OF WHAT IS THE FEE INCREASE AND
WHAT THAT SHOULD BE AND THERE
ARE. CONSIDERATIONS WHICH WE
HIGHLIGHTED FOR THE LEGISLATURE
WHICH I DO THINK ARE PROBABLY
SIMILAR CONSIDERATIONS THAT DOJ
WOULD BE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT AS
PART OF THE REGULATORY PROCESS.
SO I THINK THE KEY CHOICES THE
MECHANISM BY WHICH THE FEE LEVEL
AS SIZE AND FOR FROM THE L. A.
O. PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF
PROVIDING ADVICE TO LEGISLATURE
I THINK ONE OF THE KEY
DISTINCTIONS THERE FOR US. IS
OUR APPROACH WE THINK PROVIDES
GREATER LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT OF
THE PROGRAM FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
GOOD OKAY. GREAT- MR CLARK AND
MR HUMANNESS. THANK YOU KEVIN
CLARK WITH BERMAN OF FINANCE-
I'M JUST RESPOND TO SAY A FEW OF
LA- ROSA RECOMMENDATIONS TO
REJECT THE TVL TRAILER BILL
LANGUAGE- WE JUST WON'T KNOW
THAT THE REGULATORY PROCESS
STILL HAS A VERY HEALTHY AND
ROBUST SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND
BALANCES. REQUIRES DOJ'S SOLICIT
PUBLIC STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK AS
WELL AS ALL ANY CHANGES TO
REGULATION- PROPOSED CHANGE
REGULATION WOULD GO THROUGH THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE FOR
FISCAL. IMPACT ANALYSIS AS WELL
AS THE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE
LAW- TO ENSURE THAT REGULATORY
CHANGES ARE CLEAR ROBUST'S
NECESSARY UNLIKELY VALID. SO
WITH THAT WE THINK THERE'S STILL
A ROBUST SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND
BALANCES AND FOR EFFECTIVE
OVERSIGHT. IN TERMS OF IN WHAT'S
THE SO WHAT'S THE MAIN REASON.
FOR- FOR THE DOJ OVER. THE
LEGISLATURE. YEAH WELL I THINK
THE INCREASE IN THE FEE- THAT
THE FEE REVENUES OURS HAVE BEEN
RELATIVELY BALL TALLA OVER THE
PAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS. WE'RE
STILL GETTING THERE WE'VE GOT
THEIR COVER THE RISK CHANGES AT
THAT PERIOD OF TIME THE
REVENUES. AND SO WE THINK
THERE'S STILL A LOT OF
UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE REVENUES
OF THIS FUNDS AND NO CLEAR TREND
HAS REALLY EMERGED AT THIS TIME
SO WE THINK. ALLOWING DOJ TO SET
SET THE FEE AND TAKE ACTIONS OF
THE PEOPLE TO LINE COME ALLOW
THEM TO LINE COSTS MORE
EFFECTIVELY IN A CLOSELY WITH
THE- WITHOUT. WITH THE PROGRAM
OKAY. OKAY. BUT HE ELSE WANT TO.
ADD TO THIS. MADAM CHAIR CHRIS
RYAN WITH THE DEPARTMENT JUSTICE
AGAIN I JUST TO BE CLEAR- IN
TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF THE FEE
INCREASE I THINK WE'RE WE'RE
CLOSE IN TERMS OF OUR ESTIMATE
WITH WHAT THE L. A. ALWAYS BEEN.
TALKING ABOUT I THINK WE WERE
CLOSER TO SEVEN DOLLARS- BUT IT
ALSO IS A TIMING ISSUE IT'S A
AND WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT THE FEE
INCREASE AND WHAT ARE SOME OF
THOSE COSTS THAT ARE BURIED IN
THE ESTIMATES- BUT I THINK OUR
ESTIMATE IS REASONABLY CLOSE TO
WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM LA- IN.
PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS I JUST
WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR OKAY. OKAY
GREAT YES PLEASE DISCERNS THE IS
A- OF AMOUNT OF AMMUNITION
PURCHASED ON EACH TRANSACTION IS
CURRENTLY A DOLLAR CORRECT.
CORRECT CURRENTLY LAWLER
CONSIDERING WE'RE SIMILAR OF AN
INCREASE FROM A DOLLAR TO. THREE
FIVE AND SEVEN FOR JUNE. OKAY
CORRECT. SIX A BIG MOST. OKAY
PROFICIENT THE- WE'RE NOT. WE
WERE MORE ABOUT AS HE SAID. MAKE
A BY WHICH THE INCREASE WOULD BE
MADE OR CHANGE. CORRECT WELL WE
ALL. WE ALL WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THERE'S AGREEMENT THAT
THERE'S A NEED TO RAISE. THE
TRANSACTION FEE THERE'S A
SEPARATE SET OF CORRECT THE
WINDY RIGHT BUT WE'RE NOT SHOULD
WITH THAT THE PROPOSAL IS NOT.
OF THE CIVIC INCREASE. BUT I DO
A CONSENSUS THAT. GOT TO BE IT'S
WELL ABOVE THE CURRENT DOLLARS
TRANSACTION CORRECT AND IT'S IN
THERE'S NO. MAKING THE CITY.
IT'S GOOD WE'RE KEEP A FAVORITE
DISTRUSTED GILLIGAN PRETTY BIG.
TWO TO A PURCHASER- AND SO IF.
AT THE UPPER END I SUPPOSE IN
TAKING CARE OF AN ALLEGED- THE
FOR MONEY FROM JOE FUND OUT SOON
WOULD BE REPAIRED. OR POOR IS
THAT SOMETHING FIGURE OUT
THROUGH OUR CURRENT ESTÁ- ASSUME
YEARS. OF REPAYMENT- BUT I DON'T
THERE'S ANYTHING. IN LAW THAT
HAS TO BE RE WITHIN A AMOUNT OF
SHOULD IT BUT BUT BUT I GET MY
QUESTION WE IS THE IN. WOULD
ACTUALLY IN. SUFFICIENT AMOUNTS
TO THAT HE WOULD IT WILL BE P.
PREPAID OVERTIME THAT OUR
SUBSTANCE. WHAT ARE PROPOSAL.
LOOSELY. TO SENATOR NEW POINT I
MEAN I THINK THAT THAT IS ONE OF
THE WHY WE THINK THAT THE-
SHOULD BE AND- IN THE DISCUSSION
BECAUSE THAT IS A KEY QUESTION
AND ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT THE
LEGISLATURE HAS ITS DISPOSAL. SO
IN THINKING ABOUT WHAT THAT
TRANSACTION FEE SHOULD BE RIGHT
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE
LEGISLATURE CAN CONSIDER IS HOW
LONG OF A REPAYMENT PERIOD YOU'D
BE COMFORTABLE WITH- AND SO THAT
DOES FACTOR INTO THE CALCULATION
IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC AMOUNT
INCREASED AND I THINK. THE
ADDRESS CORRECT WE'RE KIND OF
CLOSE IN TERMS OF THE FIFTH
CLASS AND I THINK IN IN TERMS OF
OUR COMMENTS WE TRY TO GIVE YOU
KIND OF AN IDEA IN TERMS OF LIKE
IN A FOR EXAMPLE- A DIFFERENCE
OF ONE DOLLAR ONCE ONCE YOU GET
REVENUES AND EXPENDITURE HERS A
LINE TO COVER COSTS. A
DIFFERENCE ABOUT A DOLLAR COULD
BE THE DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF
REPAYMENT AND ABOUT FIVE YEARS
AS YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY- WE
HAVE TO HONE IN THE ESTIMATES
BUT I THINK THAT KIND OF GIVES A
SENSE IN TERMS OF LIKE Y. THAT
IS ONE OF THE KEY FACTORS. THAT
WE THINK THE LEGISLATURE COULD
CONSIDER AS PART OF THE DECISION
RELATED TO THIS. BY BRIDGE SHE
THANK YOU. GREAT THANK YOU- I
JUST WANTED A CLARIFY WHAT'S-
VOTE. COUNT THRESHOLD FOR THE
TRAILER. LANGUAGE THE- MAJORITY
LIVE. THE WELL. TO MAKE SURE
THAT WOULD. DIFFERENT KEVIN
CARTER TO FINANCE SO IN OUR
COVER. WITH LEADS CAN. TO THE
INTO. THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE A
TWO THIRDS VOTE. NOR ARE THE
CHANGES ARE- BOUND TO THE VOTE
REQUIREMENTS OF PROP SIXTY THREE
WHICH REQUIRED A FIFTY FIVE
PERCENT- THRESHOLD TO BE MET.
FOR CHANGE- SEARCHES. STRAIGHT.
UP A MAJORITY VOTE. OKAY. OKAY
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO MORE.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I DON'T
THINK OKAY. THANK YOU ALL OF.
OUR FUNDS TO. ITEM SIX THE LAST
ITEM. UNLESS- MY COLLEAGUE WANTS
TO. ADD ANYMORE. NO WE HAVE ITEM
SIX THE NEW YORK STATE. RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION VERSES
BRUIN CARRY CONCEALED WEAPON
LICENSES WILL BEGIN WITH MISTER
RYAN AT THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE MISLEAD MISTER CLARK.
AND MR HE MENACE. THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR CHRIS RYAN WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE I'LL GIVE
OF TO THE BRIEF INTRODUCTION AND
THEN- MICHAEL READING MY
COLLEAGUE FROM DEPARTMENT
JUSTICE WILL GIVE A BRIEF
SUMMARY- THIS PROPOSAL REQUEST-
THAT WE'VE RESOURCES FOR THE
DIVISION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
THE CALIFORNIA JUSTICE
INFORMATION SERVICES DIVISION.
TO HANDLE THE INCREASED WORKLOAD
ASSOCIATED WITH THE RECENT
DECISION- MY COLLEAGUE MICHAEL
READING WILL PROVIDE A BRIEF
OVERVIEW OF THE SUMMARY OF THE
COURT DECISIONS AND HOW THEY
IMPACT CALIFORNIA. THREE THANK
YOU THANK YOU- THERE AGO. GOOD
AFTERNOON MANAGER GOOD AFTER
MEMBERS ARE COMMITTEE- AGAIN MY
NAME IS MICHAEL READING S.
ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL OF
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT
JUSTICE- TIME EXACTLY I'M HERE
TODAY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THE CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE THAT
WAS GIVEN TO THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE-
BREWING DECISION WHICH CAME OUT
LAST. JUNE SO THE QUESTION IN
BROWN WAS REALLY WHO HAS A RIGHT
TO CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPON AND
PUBLIC. PRIOR TO BROWN WHEN
THERE WERE THREE REGIMES ONE
WAS. ESSENTIALLY NO REGIME IF
YOU HAVE A FIREARM- YOU CAN
CARRY IN PUBLIC WITHOUT ANY
APPLICATION THE SECOND. WEEK
CALLED SHALL ISSUE STATES- IF
YOU MET SOME REQUIREMENTS AND
YOU ARE NOT PROHIBITED. YOU
WOULD APPLY AND THE CORD WAS-
SHE'S ME THE- AGENCY THAT
ISSUED- CONCEALED CARRY PERMITS
OR C. C. W.'S- DIDN'T HAVE ANY
OTHER DISCRETION THEY WOULD GIVE
YOU A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT.
CALIFORNIA LIKE NEW YORK WHICH
WAS THE SUBJECT OF A- GROWING
CASE FELL INTO THE THIRD BUCKET
WE WERE A MAY ISSUE STATE AND
MAY ISSUE. THAT LANGUAGE AND
ACTUALLY APPEAR IN THE STATUTE-
BUT IT JUST MEANT THAT THE
PEOPLE WHO ISSUED. A CONCEALED
CARRY PERMITS HAD MORE
DISCRETION SO SOMEBODY WOULD
APPLY AND THERE WOULD BE A
PROCESS- THE- IN CALIFORNIA THIS
. WAS AT A CONCEALED CARRY.
COMMENTS ARE PER. A X. ISSUED-
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL SO PRIMARILY
BY CHIEFS AND SHERIFFS. AND THEY
HAD SOME DISCRETION AND WHO TO
GET A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT TO
AND WHO NOT TO SO IN BERLIN-
WHAT THE COURT WAS LOOKING AT
WAS NEW YORK STATUTE IN NEW YORK
STATUTES SAID THAT. A PERSON WHO
APPLIED MUST DEMONSTRATE PROPER
COSTS AND PROPER CRIES IN NEW
YORK I REALLY MEANT THAT YOU HAD
A HEIGHTENED NEED FOR SELF
DEFENSE SO IT ACTUALLY ENDED UP
BEING- OFTEN FAMOUS PEOPLE. WHO
WHO HAD RECEIVED THREATS AND
THEY DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY WERE
AT HIGHER RISK OF. GETTING
ATTACKED ME NEEDED TO CARRY A
CONCEALED WEAPON TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES. AND IN BROUGH IN
AGAIN GOING BACK TO- THESE TWO
THOUSAND EIGHT CASE OF HELLER
AND TWO THOUSAND TEN CASEY
MCDONALD OF THE COURT SAID. THE
CORE OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS
REALLY THE RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE
FAMILY IN THE HOME BUT ALSO IN
PUBLIC ACCORDINGLY THEY SAID
THAT THAT. INDIVIDUALS HAVE THE
RIGHT. A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT
NOT UNFETTERED BUT A
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT NONETHELESS
TO CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPONS AND
PUBLIC AND SO MAY ISSUE STATES
LIKE NEW YORK AND CALIFORNIA-
THAT WAS HELD TO BE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. NOT ONLY DID
IT YOU KNOW SORT OF ALLUDING TO
RECEIVE WHAT I JUST ALLUDED TO
NOT ONLY DID. THE OPINION. S.
STRIKE DOWN MAY ISSUE IN GENERAL
IT'S SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT
CALIFORNIA'S STATUTE IN THE
DECISION SO- THERE WAS REALLY NO
CONFUSION THE DAY AFTER THE
OPINION CAME DOWN THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ISSUED. A
BULLETIN SOME ADVICE TO LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SAY- THIS IS
OUR UNDERSTANDING WE DON'T
DIRECT THEM AND WE DON'T SORT OF
OVERSEE THEM ON A DAY TO DAY
BASIS BUT WE SAID THIS IS. OUR
INTERPRETATION OF THIS AND YOU
ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO
REQUIRE. AGAIN SOME ADDITIONAL
THINGS- IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S
ALREADY PRESCRIBED IN THE
STATUTE- SO AT THAT POINT WE
TRANSITIONED FROM A MAY ISSUE TO
A SHALL ISSUE STATE THE GAME
THERE ARE STILL OTHER
REQUIREMENTS- THIS REQUIREMENT
FOR TRAINING IS A REQUIREMENT
FOR RESIDENCY. AND THERE'S A
REQUIREMENT THAT THE PERSON HAVE
GOOD MORAL CHARACTER- BUT
OTHERWISE IF A PERSON
DEMONSTRATES THOSE THREE THINGS
THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL
DISCRETION- AND THE CHIEFS AND
THE SHARKS ARE ARE REALLY
MANDATED TO GET THAT OUT. SO THE
KEY MESSAGE THAT I WANTED TO GET
ACROSS TODAY IS THAT AGAIN THIS
IS A CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE THIS
IS NOT SOMETHING THAT. OBVIOUSLY
IS NOT A STATE STATUTE IT'S NOT
A FEDERAL STATUTE THAT MAY BE IN
FLUX OR OR MAY EVENTUALLY BE
STRUCK DOWN. THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT CAME DIRECTLY TO US FROM
THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT- WE
ARE OBVIOUSLY OBLIGED TO FOLLOW
AND I'M AND WE HAVE MADE THAT
TRANSITION. TO A SHALL ISSUE
STATE AND THAT PROCESS THE TABLE
FOR- THIS BUDGET REQUEST- THANK
YOU AN AND I WELCOME ANY
QUESTIONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
MISLI OR YES MISLI HATE I'VE
MOVED OVER A LITTLE BIT OKAY-
AND EVENLY WITH ALLEGED
BEGINNING A WEAPON THAT WAS WAS
WELL. THERE WE GO VERY FAST AS
FOR THIS. OF AGAIN. WITH THE L.
A. SO THE ADMIN. IS REQUESTING A
PORTION OF THE FUNDING FROM THE
FINGERPRINT FEES ACCOUNT AND A
PORTION OF THE FUNDING FROM THE
GENERAL FUND. WE RECOMMEND THE
LEGISLATURE FUND TO THE GENERAL
FUND PORTION BEING REQUESTED
FROM THE DEALERS RECORD OF SALE
OR DRAW SPECIAL ACCOUNT INSTEAD.
AND SO THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT- IT WOULD BE TWO
POINT NINE MILLION IN TWENTY
TWENTY THREE TWENTY FOUR AND TWO
POINT SEVEN MILLION IN TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE. STATE
LAW DOES AUTHORIZE- DOJ TO
CHARGE FEES TO COVER THE COSTS
FOR CCW WORKLOAD AND OUR
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THOSE FEE
REVENUES ARE DEPOSITED INTO BOTH
THE FINGERPRINT FEES ACCOUNT AS
WELL AS THE DROSE SPECIAL
ACCOUNT. BUT THE REQUEST BEFORE
YOU IS ONLY ASKING FOR
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FROM THE
FINGERPRINT FEES ACCOUNT BUT NOT
TO THE DRESS SPECIAL ACCOUNT.
THE COMMITTEE MIGHT REMEMBER- IN
OUR PRIOR DOJ HEARING WE HAD A
CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DROVES
SPECIAL ACCOUNT REALLY IN
RELATION TO SOME JANUARY
PROPOSALS RELATED TO FIREARMS.
INTO SPECIFICALLY AT THAT TIME.
WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE
DROVES OF SPECIAL ACCOUNT IN
RECENT YEARS HAVING REVENUES
THAT WERE ABOVE EXPENDITURES AND
THAT HAS ALLOWED FOR THE GROWTH
OF- THE FUND BALANCE AND SO THAT
DOES APPEAR TO BE SUFFICIENT. TO
COVER THIS WORKLOAD AND
SPECIFICALLY SHIFTING SUPPORT
FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE
DRAW SPECIAL ACCOUNT MEANS THAT
ABOUT THREE MILLION DOLLARS IN
GENERAL FUND MONIES BECOME FREED
UP FOR OTHER LEGISLATIVE
PURPOSES. WHICH IS OF PARTICULAR
NOTE GIVEN THE STATE'S SORT OF
BUDGET SITUATION. WILL ALSO JUST
KIND OF CONCLUDE OUR COMMENTS BY
SAYING- THAT IN OUR
CONVERSATIONS WITH DOJ WHEN WE
ASKED KIND OF ABOUT THE FEES
THAT COULD BE CHARGED. IT WAS
INDICATED TO US THAT THEY HAD
BEEN LAST- KIND OF SET INTO A
TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR. SO IT
COULD BE ALSO REASONABLE TO HAVE
A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE
INCREASES AS WELL. SO THAT WILL
CONCLUDE OUR COMMENT AND ARE
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THE
APPROACH TIME THANK YOU. FOR
GREAT- THE WOMAN FROM DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE- KEVIN CLARK BERMAN
FINANCES RESPONSIBLY AS- A
RECOMMENDATION TO UTILIZED ROSE
FUNDS FOR THESE TRANSACTIONS. SO
DRESS FUNDS ADDRESS REVENUES
INDEED HAVE INCREASED OVER THE
LAST FEW YEARS DUE TO ADD A FEE
INCREASE IN FISCAL TWENTY
NINETEEN TWENTY AND SO THAT V.
WENT FROM ROUGHLY NINETEEN
DOLLARS. TO THIRTY ONE DOLLARS
AND THIRTEEN CENTS. THOUGH THAT
FEE INCREASE WAS. ENACTED IN
LARGE PART TO SUPPORT THIS
COMPREHENSIVE FIREARMS IT
SYSTEMS MODERNIZATION PROJECT WE
TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT
LAST HEARING. THE COMPLEX
PROJECT REQUIRES- A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT
MODERNIZES THE NUMBER OF
ANTIQUATED FIREARMS DATABASES
THAT DOJ MAINTAINS. SO WE WOULD
JUST NOTE THAT FUNDING THIS BCPS
SPECIFICALLY WITHDRAWS FUNDS ARE
DRESSED REVENUES COULD
COMPROMISE OTHER FIREARMS
PRIORITIES INCLUDING. THE FIT
SOME PROJECTS AND SYSTEM
IMPLEMENTATION. HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT
HAVE. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY
RESPONSE TO THE- OUR AT ITS WORK
AND- SO IT THERE IS A LARGE IT
PROJECTS COMING DOWN THE LINE-
FIT SOME. THERE IS AN APRIL
FINANCE LETTER REQUESTS THAT YOU
HAVE BEFORE YOU IN CONVERSATIONS
WITH DOJ- TO BETTER UNDERSTAND
WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ONE
IT'S STILL IN ITS PLANNING STAGE
AND SO WE HAVEN'T HIT THE STAGE
WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING
THOSE WE WILL BE GETTING. KIND
OF SOME PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES
BUT IT IS FAIRLY COMPLEX AND SO
THE LEGISLATURE WILL WANT TO
WEIGH IN ON SORT OF HOW TO BEST
MOVE FORWARD PARTICULARLY IF
WE'RE GOING TO BE COMMITTING
FISCAL RESOURCES GIVEN THE
STATE'S BUDGET SITUATION. I
THINK THAT'S THE ONE GOOD IN THE
I. T. YET REGARDING THE I. T.
BECAUSE REGULAR RELATED TO THE
I. T. PROJECTS OF THE
LEGISLATURE IS GONNA HAVE A KEY
DECISION ABOUT HOW TO FUND IT
HOW TO PAY FOR IT. WHETHER IT'S
FROM FIREARMS FEES THE SPECIAL
THE FIREARM SPECIAL COUNSEL OR
THE GENERAL FUND OR YOU KNOW
OTHER MECHANISMS- THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATURE
IS GOING TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.
IN CONVERSATIONS WITH DOJ ABOUT
KIND OF COMPLEXITY AND SIZE. IT
IS SOUNDING LIKE IT IS SOMETHING
AND AGAIN THEY'RE NOT COMMITTING
TO ESTIMATES BUT IT IS SOUNDING
LIKE A FAIRLY COMPLEX PROJECT
AND WHEN THEY GAVE US KIND OF
ANALOGIES TO OTHER PROJECTS THAT
ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS. THE
PROJECTS ARE KIND OF IN THE
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
MID TO HIGH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS AND SO. THE FEE
INCREASE ON KIND OF WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE
DRESS ACCOUNT. IS LIKELY NOT
GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT TO PAY
FOR THAT SO YOU'RE ALREADY GONNA
HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU
INCREASE THE FEE I'M NOT SAYING
YOU KNOW NOT COMMITTING ONE WAY
EITHER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A
PROPOSAL FOR US BUT- YOU'RE
LIKELY GOING TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO PAY
FOR IT. AND SINCE IT'S AT ITS
EARLY PLANNING STAGES IT'S STILL
NOT QUITE CLEAR WHEN YOU ARE
GOING TO HIT THAT PROCESS WHERE
THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT YOU KNOW
THE CONTRACTUAL COSTS. WILL
START KICKING AND- AND SO- I
THINK THAT THAT SHOULD SOMETHING
FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO KIND OF
KEEP IN MIND IS YOU'RE
CONSIDERING THE DIFFERENT
PROPOSALS. OKAY OKAY- COULD-
COULD YOU JUST. IT YOU SAY THAT
THEY'LL BE IN UNTIL. INCREASE IN
THE WORKLOAD. WHAT DOES THAT
MEAN. YEAH BUT I'M SURE WE HAVE
ALISON MENDOZA HERE FROM THE
BUREAU OF FIREARMS TO TALK ABOUT
THE WORKLOAD ISSUES OKAY. HI
GOOD AFTERNOON ALISON MENDOZA
WITH THE BUREAU OF FIREARMS. SO
SINCE THE DECISION IN BROUGH AND
WE HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED A
46% INCREASE IN INITIAL CCW
APPLICATIONS- WE'VE ALSO BEEN
TALKING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE AND-
THEY HAVE. ADVISED THAT THEY
HAVE A BACKLOG OF APPLICATIONS
THAT THEY HAVE STILL NOT EVEN
YET TO SEND TO US SO WE KNOW
THAT INCREASES GOING TO KEEP.
GOING UP- AS WE GO. THROUGH THIS
PROCESS. AND THAT'S- THAT'S-
JUST DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT OF
WHAT THAT WORK OR- IS THAT.
BACKSTOPS SURE SO THERE IS- THEY
APPLY THROUGH THEIR LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. ON THIS
APPLICATION PROCESS TO THAT THEY
GET LIVE SCANS OF THEIR
FINGERPRINTS. WHICH IS WHAT
COMES TO DOJ TO PROCESS WE DO
THE FARM ELIGIBILITY COMPONENT
OF THE BACKGROUND. AND WE
PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE
ISSUING LOCAL AGENCY. THEY TAKE
THAT INFORMATION ALONG WITH ALL
OF THE OTHER FACTORS THAT-
THEY'RE LOOKING AT LIKE THE
MORAL GOOD GOOD MORAL AND THE-
DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT- AND
THEN THEY BASE THEIR DECISION ON
ISSUING- THE LICENSE- PREVIOUS
TO BRUIN- YOU KNOW AGENCIES HAD
INDIVIDUAL DISCRETION ON HOW
THEY APPLIED THAT AND SO SOME
AGENCIES WOULD ISSUE THEM OUT
VERY. MORE FREELY- OTHER
COUNTIES- DID NOT ISSUE THEM OUT
HARDLY AT ALL SO WE KNOW BASED
ON THE NEW DECISION THAT THERE'S
LESS DISCRETION THAT THEY HAVE
AND SO THOSE AGENCIES THAT DID
NOT ISSUE- ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
START ISSUING THOSE AND SO WE
KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE
EXPERIENCING A LARGER INCREASE
ESPECIALLY IN THOSE AREAS. OKAY
AND I'M SORRY WINDOWS THIS. GET
TRIGGERED WHEN DOES IT GO IT
ALREADY HAS IT ALREADY HAS AFTER
THE DECISION YEAH. OKAY OKAY YES
PLEASE TO UNDERSTAND AGAIN A BIG
SENSE BUT DID THE- PROJECTED
INCREASE FROM. HUNDRED EIGHTY
SEVEN THOUSAND SOMETHING A
LITTLE OVER SIX AND FIFTY FOUR
CENTS WHAT WHAT ARE THE
ASSUMPTIONS THERE THERE BASED ON
YOUR THROUGH THE EXISTING. TO
APPLICATION FLOOR BOARD. YEAH
YES ABSOLUTELY SO IT YEAH IT'S
BASED ON- COUNTY ISSUANCE WE
LOOKED AT A LOT OF FACTORS WE
DID RESEARCH- LOOKING AT HOW
OTHER STATES ARE APPLYING IT ON
THE INCREASES THAT YOU KNOW
THEY'RE STARTING TO SEE BASED ON
WHETHER THEY WERE SHALL USE.
SHALL ISSUE OUR MAY ISSUE WE'VE
BEEN TALKING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA- AND
WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING TO
SEE. AND LOOKING AT HOW COUNTIES
HAVE ISSUED LICENSES IN THE PAST
AND WHAT THEIR ISSUANCE RATE WAS
YOU KNOW BASED ON THEIR
POPULATION. AND THEN- HANDGUN
OWNERS THAT ARE RECORDED IN OUR
SYSTEMS AND- KIND OF FACTORING
THAT HOLY AND WEBER. PROJECTING
THE INCREASES TO BE. I THERE
LIKE A HIGH A MEDIA. LOW
SCENARIO WE'RE GOING TO THIS
THIS COULD CHANGE ON. LOTS OF
THINGS SIMPLY JUST POWER. SO DID
CAN YOU FOCUS THIS TO ME AND IF
THE THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
RIGHT SO APPLY A VERY OF RATE
TO- THE ISSUE AND SO IN AT OF
THE FACTORS I JUST EXPLAINED-
COUNTIES WHERE YOU KNOW THEY
ALREADY ARE ISSUING- THE MORE
FREELY WE APPLIED LIKE A TWO AND
A HALF PERCENT INCREASE- TWO
COUNTIES THAT ARE NOT. ISSUING
THEM- WE APPLIED LIKE A 10%
INCREASE- AND IT'S PRETTY
CONSERVATIVE- FROM WHAT WE'RE
SEEING OTHER STATES ARE
EXPERIENCING SERIOUS THAT'S MY
CONCERN IF IT'S CONSERVATIVE.
AND IT'S EXPENSIVE AND IT
EXCEEDS THE PROJECTIONS. WE'VE
GOT. A FISCAL ISSUE. RIGHT NOW
WILL KEEP MONEY. THE DATA OVER
FIVE YEAR OF THE SAYS WE YOU CAN
COME BACK TO US AND US ENOUGH
TO. ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE
MISSED HERE MADAM CHAIR JUST
SPEAKER ON THE USE OF THE- TRUST
FUND- ELLIE IS COMMENTS SOME.
UNDERSTAND WHAT ALEJO SAYING IN
TERMS OF USE OF THE GROSS FUNDS
I THINK OUR CONCERN THAT WE
COMPLY FLAGGING FROM THE OTHER
HEARING THAT WE HAD WAS THAT THE
CURRENT CHARGES THE CURRENT
FEES. DID NOT FACTOR IN THIS
PROPOSAL OR SOME OF THE OTHER
PROPOSALS SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT
THERE IS A FUND BALANCE THERE
BUT IT'S GOING TO ACCELERATE THE
NEED FOR A FEE ADJUSTMENT- THAT
MAY HAPPEN SOONER THAN IF THE
OTHERWISE FUNDED YET THESE
PROPOSALS WERE FUNDED. WITH
GENERAL FUND FOR EXAMPLE SO JUST
WANTED TO FLAG THAT- AND ALSO I
THINK WE HAVING GONE THROUGH THE
LAST FEW INCREASE ADJUSTMENT- WE
ARE SENSITIVE TO THE
DIFFICULTIES AND HOW SENSITIVE
THAT CAN BE. GOING TO THE
PROCESS THAT WE JUST WANT TO
RAISE OUR HAND TO LET YOU KNOW.
OKAY GREAT. NUMBER R. I. THANK
YOU ALL VERY AND PAGE. THANK YOU
WITH US- THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON
.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ANYONE
WANTING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT ON PART B. ITEMS ONLY
TODAY'S PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS
EIGHT SEVEN SEVEN. TWO TWO SIX
EIGHT ONE SIX THREE AND THE
ACCESS CODE IS SIX NINE FOUR
EIGHT NINE THREE ZERO THIS BEGIN
WITH ANY WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. PLEASE COME
UP TO THE MICROPHONE. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR PATIENCE GENEROSA I'M
JACK LONDON THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR. OF THE ACCESS TO
JUSTICE COMMISSION CALIFORNIA. I
WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF
FUNDING FOR COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES
HE SPOKE OF A SYSTEM- THE-
LOOKING AT CIVIL JUSTICE IN
CALIFORNIA AS A SYSTEM IS. OUR
MISSION IN LIFE- COUNTY
LIBRARIES ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART
OF THAT SYSTEM FIVE HUNDRED
THOUSAND PEOPLE. WHO GOT HELP
FROM COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES WITH
WITH LEGAL PROBLEMS. ARE THEY
REALLY ARE A SERVER AND
IMPORTANT ROLE- THEY DO WORK
WITH OTHER PARTS OF THE SYSTEM
IN A VERY IMPORTANT WAY. THREE
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND
TESTIFY. YES HI GOOD AFTERNOON
THANK YOU- CHAIR COMEDIAN STAFF
THIS RYAN MOORE MUNY ON BEHALF
THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION
OF COUNTIES- REPRESENTING ALL
FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES- HERE IN
REGARDS TO ISSUE NUMBER FOUR. AS
IT RELATES THE ELIMINATION OF
CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.
YOU KNOW FIRST OFF- YOU KNOW WE
APPRECIATE THE LEGISLATURE AND
AS WELL AS ADVOCATES ONGOING
EFFORTS TO REDUCE THE FINANCIAL
HARDSHIPS. ON INDIVIDUALS THAT
ARE JUSTICE INVOLVED TO PREVENT
CYCLE OF CRIME AND POVERTY- BUT
THAT SAID ALTERNATELY- YOU KNOW
WELL WELL WE DON'T HAVE ANY
ISSUE WITH TO SUCH EFFORTS WE
WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE IN
SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSIONS AROUND
CAN YOU BACK FILL. I KNOW AS YOU
STATED EARLIER THERE'S SOME
QUESTIONS AROUND THE REPORTING
WHICH I'M ALSO I'M HAPPY TO
ENGAGE IN FURTHER WITH YOU AND
YOUR STAFF- AROUND SOME OF THE
COMPLEXITIES FOR COUNTIES IN IN
MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS- BUT
IT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNTIES
ARE WELL AWARE OF AND NOT
IGNORING YOU KNOW WE'RE WORKING
WITH THE L. A. O. DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE AND I JAIL BC- AND THEN
LASTLY IN REGARDS TO. ISSUE
NUMBER THREE- OR IN SUPPORT OF
THE AGES SIXTEEN AND A HALF
MILLION- FOR COUNTY LAW OFFICES-
DUE TO DECLINING REVENUE. SO
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
YES PLEASE. HELLO I AM AN RATE
SANDY WITH THE SACRAMENTO COUNTY
PUBLIC LAW LIBRARY. I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR THIS HEARING TODAY
IT IS NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK.
IT'S GREAT TO BE SPEAKING WITH
YOU AND MONDAY IS LAW DAY. AT
TWO GREAT REASONS TO SUPPORT
FUNDING FOR ISSUE NUMBER THREE
COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES. AND I-
WILL NOTE THAT. ITEM THREE
PROVIDES A SOLUTION TO A LOT OF
THE ISSUES RAISED AND ITEM ONE
AND TWO AND I THOUGHT YOUR
QUESTIONS WERE TERRIFIC- AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU
MORE. ON GETTING SUPPORT FAR
STATEWIDE PARTNERS HE'S LAW
LIBRARIES ARE STRUGGLING. GREAT
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE IN PERSON. AND
YOUR PATIENCE- ANYMORE. SEEING
NO MORE CALM. WITNESSES HERE IN
ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
MODERATOR FEW PLEASE PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT AND IF YOU WOULD
LET US KNOW THE TOTAL NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WAITING TO TESTIFY. THANK
MEDICARE FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO
COMMENT PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS
TIME. WHAT MADAM CHAIR IT
APPEARS THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST
SIX PEOPLE OF SIGNALED THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK. WE'RE GONNA START
WITH WIND SIXTY FOUR YOUR LINE
IS NOW OPEN AND IF YOU KEEP YOUR
COMMENTS BRIEF THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. YES THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY I DON'T SEE ANY
LEVIN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF LOS
ANGELES OKAY YOU ALL AGREE AND
ALSO A MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA
ACCESS DEFICIT REDUCTION. DALY
IMPOSITION ON TWO ISSUES
BIRTHPLACE TRONG WE URGE STABLE
AND ARE GOING TIGHTENING COUNTY
LAW LIBRARY AS A GENERAL IDEA
SHE THREE. TODAY ARE TOO MANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE
FINANCIALLY- A RESOURCE SINCE
FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ONLY FOR THE
AID HEALTH HOW WE CAN HELP
EFFECTIVELY PROVIDES QUICKLY
NEED STUFF A GREAT. DEAL TO THE
OLDER CLINTON IT'S LAW LIKELY
THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN DAY.
SECONDLY I STRONGLY SUPPORT.
LEADERS IS TO FUNDING TO THE ACT
THE COMMUTER TO FACILITY A LOT
BETTER AS A AS ANY CRICKET. AND
GRAY. THE PROTECTOR MUCH LOWER
READ BY PROVIDING ADEQUATE
FUNDING FOR LOW. AND SUPPORTED
FUNDING FOR ACTIVE JUSTICE
INITIATIVE THANK YOU. THANK YOU
FOR CALLING. FIND TO NINE YOUR
LINE IS NOW A- GOOD AFTERNOON MY
NAME'S CLAY SOME IN A AM SPEAK
TO YOU ON BEHALF THE LEGAL ON
NETWORK WHERE FOR OF OVER A
HUNDRED THROUGHOUT THE STATE. AS
WELL AS DROP COUNTRY ALL OF A
LEGALLY. UNLOCKED REMEMBERS OF
THE NEEDS OF THE ACTIONS
DIGESTIVE COMMISSION. TODAY I'M
ON BEHALF OF THE ISSUE RAISED
TONIGHT AND JUNE WHICH IS MARKED
IMPROVING I TO CAPITAL. POSTED
THE CARD WON'T BETWEEN THE- ONE
OF MY AS THE PERSON WHO RUN CARE
.
OPTIMIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND
PROVIDE THE LOAN REPAYMENT THE
ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED WITH
REGARDS TO RECRUITMENT RETENTION
WILL BE MET THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU
FOR CALLING. LINE SEVENTY ONE
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. SENATOR
DORADO COMMITTEE MEMBERS JOHN
ZORBA'S YOU COUNTY PUBLIC LAW
LIBRARY COMMENTING ON THE ISSUE
THREE. BEEN FOUND THERE MIGHT
TWENTY TWENTY ONE WE CUT OUR
OPERATIONS BY 50% HOURS STAFF
AND SERVICE GOING TO THE ABSENCE
OF SUFFICIENT OPERATING REVENUES
FOR THAT YEAR. WE SUPPORT THE
REQUESTED APPROPRIATION THANK
YOU THANK YOU FOR CALLING. WIND
SIXTY SIX YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN
. GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
LAUREN KLEIN I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
ADVOCACY AT THE LEGAL AID
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA THE
REPRESENT MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS
THE STATE PROVIDE FREE CIVIL
LEGAL ASSISTANCE. I WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
ISSUE NUMBER TWO AT THE CREATION
OF A LOAN REPAYMENT ASSISTANCE
PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE
CONTINUATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE
AND INNOVATION GRANTS WILL BE
CRITICAL IN HELPING REGULATE
ORGANIZATIONS BUILD THEIR
CAPACITY TO MEET THE GROWING
NEED FOR THEIR SERVICES. THANK
YOU THANK YOU. THAT PROGRAM.
PLEASE ONE SIXTY TO YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON I'M
LAURIE VOLOGDA RECTOR OF SANTA
BARBARA COUNTY LAW LIBRARY CON
COMMENTING ON ISSUE THREE.
BUILDING ACCESS TO JUSTICE IS A
CORNERSTONE OF COUNTY LAW
LIBRARY SERVICES WHICH PROVIDE
ALL CALIFORNIANS WITH EQUAL
ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION TOOLS
TECHNOLOGY AND ONE ON ONE
SUPPORT THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND
AND NAVIGATE OUR LEGAL SYSTEM.
EARLIER SOME OF YOU TALKED ABOUT
HOW TO CONNECT PEOPLE TO
EXISTING RESOURCES ESPECIALLY
TENANTS AND LANDLORDS EVERY DAY
WE ASSIST PATRONS IN LOCATING
RELEVANT RESOURCES. AND WE WORK
COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE
ATTORNEY IN OUR LOCAL LEGAL
RESOURCE CENTER WHICH IS HOUSED
IN THE COUNTY LAW LIBRARY.
PARTICULARLY ON TENANT RELATED
MATTERS. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT
STABLE AND CONTINUING FUNDING
FOR COUNTY LAW LIBRARY. BY
INCLUDING A SIXTEEN POINT FIVE
MILLION APPROPRIATIONS FOR
COUNTY LAW LIBRARY IN THE.
TWENTY THREE TWENTY FOUR STATE
BUDGET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ONE SEVENTY YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. I AM EMILY EVERT- OF THE
ALAMEDA COUNTY LAW LIBRARY IT'S
NOT GREAT. FOUR EIGHT SIXTEEN
POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLAR
CORPORATION TO STABILIZE COUNTY
LAW LIBRARY WHICH PROVIDE ALL
CALIFORNIANS. AND EQUAL ACCESS
TO THE LEGAL TOOLS TECHNOLOGY
AND PERSONAL ONE ON ONE SUPPORT
NEEDED TO NAVIGATE OUR LEGAL.
THE FATHER OF ALL GETTING IT.
AND COLLABORATE VEHICLE LEGAL
AID ORGAN. TO OFFER FREE CLINICS
AND EDUCATE PROGRAM. WE'VE CAN
YOU PUBLIC ACCESS TO HIGH
QUALITY LEGAL IN. BY FUNDING
TELL ME LAWLER. WHICH ARE
CALIFORNIA'S. STATE IN AT EIGHT
YOU THANK YOU. WHAT LADIES AND
GENTLE IF YOU DROPPED OUT OF THE
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO IF YOU
WISH TO. BETTER CARE THERE IS NO
I DON'T TO SIGNAL THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. THANK YOU MODERATOR AND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE
THIS AFTERNOON APPRECIATE YOU-
THANK EVERYONE- FOR THEIR
PARTICIPATION TODAY THANK OUR
STAFF ARE PRE SHE TO YOU ALL
VERY MUCH- NORA AND- I WANT TO
THANK THE LAW LIBRARY LIBRARIANS
YOU ARE THE MOST ORGANIZED GROUP
TODAY. GREAT YOU BUT A LOT OF
AWARENESS TO- TO OUR STATE AND-
BY YOUR TESTIMONY SO IT'S JUST A
GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT A
DIFFERENCE YOU MAKE WHEN YOU
PARTICIPATE AND WHEN YOU CALL
IN. YOUR INFORMATION MEANS A LOT
TO US SO I WANT TO THANK ALL THE
INDIVIDUALS WHO DID- PROVIDE
TESTIMONY. I IF YOU WERE NOT
ABLE PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS
IN WRITING TO THE BUDGET FISCAL
REVIEW COMMITTEE. AND THEY ARE
IMPORTANT TO US AND THEY DO MAKE
A DIFFERENCE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PATIENCE AND COOPERATION THANK
YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE. STAYED WITH
IT IF YOU STAYED WITH THEM THANK
YOU AND- THE MEETING IS
ADJOURNED.