THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY
UTILITIES AND COMMUNICATIONS
WILL COME TO ORDER GOOD
AFTERNOON THE SENATE CONTINUES
TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC IN PERSON
AND VIA TELECONFERENCE ARVEST
FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT AT
TODAY'S HEARING THAT THE
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS.
877-226-8163 THAT. 877-226-8163
AND THE ACCESS CODE IS. SEVEN
THREE SIX TWO EIGHT THREE FOUR
AGAIN THAT SEVEN THREE SIX TWO
EIGHT THREE FOUR WE'RE HOLDING
OUR COMMITTEE HEARING HERE IN
THE- STREET BUILDING. I ASK ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO BE
PRESENT IN ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED
SO WE CAN STOP SUPPORT WE HAVE
SIXTEEN BILLS ON THE AGENDA
TODAY SO WE GO FOR- LOAD WORKED
BEFORE US AND- IN LIGHT OF US
LACKING A QUORUM WILL START AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE I SEE WE HAVE OUR
FIRST AUTHOR HERE SENATOR WIENER
SO WHEN YOU'RE READY YOU CAN
PRESENT FILE ITEM ONE SB EIGHTY
THREE.
GET THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR
CHAIRMAN TODAY I'M PRESENTING
SENATE BILL EIGHTY THREE- AND- I
WANT TO JUST A STATE THAT I AM-
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS OUTLINED IN THE BILL-
DIRECTING THE CPC- NO LATER THAN
SEPTEMBER THIRTIETH TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR THE- ANALYSIS
DOESN'T STATE DOPPEL WE ACT. A
CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMITTEE
SO DIRECTING THE CPC BY
SEPTEMBER THIRTIETH TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR AT THE LATEST TO SET
A TIME LINE FOR SERVICE LINE
EXTENSION ONCE A PROJECT IS
INTERCONNECTION READY- AND- ALSO
DIRECTING THE CBC TO SET A- A
PENALTY- AMOUNTS. ARE NOT TO
EXCEED- WHAT WE HAVE STATED- IN
IN THE BILL IS CREATED FOR A AND
I THINK I JUST STATED-
AGREEMENT- ARE CORRECTLY SO
EXCEPT THOSE AMENDMENTS AS
INDICATED. I'M CALLING. THIS
BILL IS ACTUALLY- THE POLITICS
OF THE COMPLEX ABOUT THE BILL
THE BILL IT IS QUITE SIMPLE-
IT'S ABOUT WHETHER CALIFORNIA IS
GOING TO AND- INSIST ON THE VERY
BASIC. OUR REQUIREMENT THAT WHEN
A BUILDING IS READY TO BE
OCCUPIED BUSINESS OR RESIDENTIAL
DOT THE ELECTRIC UTILITY SERVING
IT. TURNS ON THE DOWNLIGHTS- AND
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD
NEVER REQUIRE A BILL AND I'M
ACTUALLY HORRIFIED. THAT I HAD
TO ACTUALLY INTRODUCE THIS BILL
I'M HORRIFIED THAT THERE ARE
ACTUALLY MULTIPLE BILLS IN THE
LEGISLATURE ONE BY CENTER BACKER
BY SOME MEMBER WOULD- ALL
REQUIRING. ELECTRIC UTILITIES TO
SIMPLY DO THEIR JOB AND TURN ON
THE LIGHTS. AND I THINK MOST
PEOPLE ON THE STREET IF YOU ASK
THEM SHOULD IT BE A FIGHT. TO
TELL THE ELECTRIC UTILITIES THAT
THEY TO TURN THE LIGHTS ON I
THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY WHAT
WHY ARE YOU READING SPENDING
TIME ON THAT. WERE SPENDING TIME
ON IT BECAUSE- EVEN THOUGH
HISTORICALLY YOUR BILL THE
BUILDING AND AN ELECTRIC UTILITY
TURN THE LIGHTS ON THAT'S HOW
IT'S HISTORICALLY WORKED IN
CALIFORNIA TELL WORKS IN THIS
COUNTRY BUT FOR SOME REASON
TODAY IN THE FOURTH LARGEST
ECONOMY IN THE WORLD. WELL WE'VE
UTILITIES AND PARTICULARLY ONE
UTILITY PACIFIC GAS AND ELECTRIC
THAT DOESN'T JUST TURN ON THE
LIGHTS AND THAT TURNS IT INTO A
NIGHTMARE. SO THAT WE HAVE A
LARGE NUMBER OF HOMES INCLUDING
A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
WHILE WE HAVE A HOMELESS CRISIS
ON OUR STREETS. THAT ARE
LITERALLY SITTING THERE EMPTY
AND DARK THEY CAN'T GET A
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BECAUSE
THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY BECAUSE
PG&E HAS NOT TURNED ON THE
LIGHTS. FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS
AND MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS
. WE HAVE BUSINESSES IN
CALIFORNIA. I CAN'T OPEN UP.
BECAUSE PG&E HAS NOT TURNED ON
THE LIGHTS. JOBS THAT ARE ARE ON
HOLD. BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T
TURNED ON. THE LIGHTS WE HAVE
BUSINESSES. THAT ARE CONSIDERING
WHETHER THEY SHOULD. OPEN IN
CALIFORNIA. AS OPPOSED TO OTHER
STATES BECAUSE IN THE OTHER
STATES. THEY'RE GOING TO GET
QUICKLY CONNECTED TO THE
ELECTRIC GRID TO BE ABLE TO TURN
ON THE LIGHTS. BUT IN CALIFORNIA
THEY MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT YEARS.
HOW IS THAT AN ACCEPTABLE STATE
OF AFFAIRS IS COMPLETELY
UNACCEPTABLE AND WE HAVE HELD.
THIS LEGISLATOR HAS HELD PG&E TO
SUCH A LOW STANDARD FOR SO MANY
YEARS. THAT IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE
WELL THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS
WELL THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT
NEEDS TO BE AND IT'S NOT THE WAY
IT SHOULD BE AND IS A
RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS
LEGISLATURE. TO FIX IT TO FORCE
PG&E AT ALL ELECTRIC UTILITIES
IN THE STATE TO HAVE BASIC RULES
TO HAVE A TIMELINE THAT YOU HAVE
TO TURN ON THE LIGHTS WITHIN X.
NUMBER OF DAYS OR ACTS NUMBER OF
WEEKS. AND IF YOU DON'T DO SO
THERE'S A PENALTY AND AN
INCENTIVE. NOW IN THIS BILL WE
PUT EIGHT WEEKS AND THERE THE
COMMITTEE DID NOT WANT TO STAY A
SPECIFIC NUMBER OF WEEKS AND
PREFERRED THAT THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION
CONVENE STAKEHOLDERS. AND THEN-
BY NEXT SEPTEMBER ESTABLISH THE
TIMELINE AND THE PENALTIES. AND
EVEN THOUGH I PREFERRED A WRITE
THAT INTO THE STATUTE- I WAS
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENT SO WE
CAN MOVE FORWARD- START TO TRY
TO COME UP WITH A BETTER SYSTEM
I CAN TELL YOU THAT I. AND A LOT
OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HOLD THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION TO
ISSUE ITS ROLE. NO LATER THAN
THE DEADLINE AND THE CPUC AT
TIMES IN THE PAST HAS NOT DONE
SO BY THE DEADLINE. AND WE'RE
GONNA MAKE DARN SURE THAT THE
CPUC OX. BY THE DEADLINE. I WANT
TO SEE AN END TO ARTICLES LIKE
THIS THIS WAS AN POLITICAL
YESTERDAY. RIGHT HERE NEED POWER
IN CALIFORNIA GET IN LINE. FROM
THE CHRONICLE. IF PG&E CAN'T
TURN THE LIGHTS ON FOR NEW
HOUSING CALIFORNIA NEEDS TO STEP
DOWN. ANOTHER HEADLINE SAN
FRANCISCO BLAMES PG&E FOR FORTY
ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN EXPENSES
AND DELAYS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PROJECTS. MY CITY OF SAN
FRANCISCO. WITH A HUGE BUDGET
DEFICIT LIKE THE STATE THIS
YEAR. WHAT WHICH HAS HUGE NEEDS
AROUND CHILDCARE AND
HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING. AND
CARE FOR SENIORS IS GONNA HAVE
TO SEND FORTY ONE MILLION
DOLLARS. IN TAXPAYER MONEY. TO
BACKSTOP. THE PROBLEMS THAT PG&E
HAS CAUSED BY NOT TURNING ON THE
LIGHTS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO
COLLEAGUES- I'M APPRECIATIVE OF
THE COLLABORATIVE WORK
APPRECIATIVE THAT I'M NOT THE
ONLY AUTHOR WORKING IN THE SPACE
LOOK FORWARD TO. WORKING WITH MY
COLLEAGUES IN BOTH HOUSES AND
WHEN THIS WHEN THAT WHEN OUR
LEGISLATION SESSION ENDS IN
SEPTEMBER. I TRULY HOPE THAT WE
HAVE SOLVED THIS PROBLEM AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK. FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. WITH ME TODAY TO TESTIFY
ON THE BILL IS COREY SMITH THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
HOUSING ACTION COALITION. AND
DANNY KERR AND- WITH THE
CALIFORNIA CONFERENCE OF
CARPENTERS THANK YOU EACH OF THE
PRIMARY WITNESSES WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES FOR YOUR TESTIMONY THANK
YOU YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN READY.
THANK YOU SENATOR THANK YOU
CHAIR BRADFORD MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE CORY SMITH ON BEHALF
OF THE HOUSING ACTION COALITION
OR THE HACK FOR SHORT. WE ARE A
MEMBER SUPPORTED NONPROFIT THAT
ADVOCATES FOR MORE HOMES FOR
RESIDENTS AT ALL INCOME LEVELS
SUPPORT OF HOMELESS HOUSING
SUBSIDIZED AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AND MARKET RATE HOUSING. AND
WE'RE PROUD TO CO SPONSOR SENATE
BILL EIGHTY THREE BECAUSE IT
AIMS TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT HAS
BEEN AN ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME
BUT IT'S FRANKLY GOTTEN MUCH
WORSE IN THE LAST FIVE TO TEN
YEARS. AFTER NEW PROJECTS GO
THROUGH THE ABSOLUTE GAUNTLET OF
ENTITLEMENT AND PERMITTING.
AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION IS
FINALLY COMPLETE. SO MANY
PROJECTS INCLUDING A SIGNIFICANT
NUMBER OF MULTI FAMILY HOUSING
PROJECTS. WITH AN UNREASONABLY
LONG TIME TO GET CONNECTED TO
THE ELECTRICAL GRID. AND I WANNA
BE VERY CLEAR. THAT THE ENTIRE
PROCESS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING
TO END. BETWEEN CITIES AND
COUNTIES THE IOUS AND PROJECT
APPLICANTS. IS COMPLETELY BROKEN
START TO FINISH THE ENTIRE THING
IS AN ABSOLUTE MESS WE HAVE A
LOT OF WORK TO DO IN THIS AREA.
BUT DELAYS THAT OCCUR THROUGHOUT
THE PROCESS OF THE DELAYS THAT
OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS ONE
THAT WE FIND. REALLY INEXCUSABLE
AS WHEN THAT PROJECT IS
COMPLETE. AND PEOPLE COULD MOVE
THEN AND JOBS COULD ACTUALLY
START. IF WE WERE ABLE TO FLIP
THE PROVERBIAL SWITCH. AND WE
AIM TO FIX THAT PROBLEM AGAIN AT
THE VERY VERY END AND IF THERE
IS ADDITIONAL PHYSICAL WORK TO
DO IT IS BY DEFINITION NOT
READY. TO BE CONNECTED. I ALSO
WANT TO EMPHASIZE. THAT THE WORK
IN QUESTION IS PAID FOR DIRECTLY
BY THE APPLICANTS IN ADVANCE
THIS IS FEE FOR SERVICE IT IS.
PAYING FOR A SERVICE TO BE DONE
AND THEN THAT NOT BEING DONE IN
A TIMELY FASHION. SOLVING OUR
AFFORDABILITY AND DISPLACEMENT
CRISIS WILL TAKE MANY ACTIONS
AND SENATE BILL EIGHTY THREE IS
A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
WITNESS MR CURTAIN. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN DANNY CURTAIN ON
BEHALF CALIFORNIA CARPENTERS AND
I'M ALSO HERE FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION EMPLOYERS
ASSOCIATION TODAY. THE LARGEST
UNION CONTRACTOR ASSOCIATION IN
THE STATE WITH A HUNDRED TWENTY
FIVE THOUSAND MEMBERS AND THIRTY
BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF
CONSTRUCTION PER YEAR BOTH
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. I WANT TO
SAY I APPRECIATE THE WEEK WE HAD
TO DISCUSS THIS AND THINK IT
OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE MISTER
CHAIRMAN I THINK IT WAS A LOT OF
GOOD CONVERSATION- BUT IT'S
INTERESTING WE ENDED ACCURATE.
APPRECIATIVE OF THE CONCERT CUTS
THE TIME THOUGH. YOU'VE ALL
HEARD ABOUT THE ARTICLES- IT'S
COSTING OUR CONTRACTORS A LOT OF
MONEY IT'S COSTING PUBLIC
AGENCIES A LOT OF MONEY TENS OF
MILLIONS. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE
FIXED. THE SOONER THE BETTER-
YOU ALL ABOUT BUSINESS THEY HATE
REGULATION THEY HATED MORE NAY
THING YOU KNOW THE ELSE EXCEPT
ONE THING. UNCERTAINTY THEY HATE
UNCERTAINTY AND IF THEY GET A
TIME CERTAIN OF BETWEEN ONE DAY
IN SIX MONTHS THAT IS AN
EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT THING
TO DEAL WITH IN TERMS OF
INVESTMENTS AND COST. SO REALLY
THIS IS THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE
CONFRONTING HERE IT'S A SIMPLE
ISSUE IT'S COMPLEX PROBLEM. SOME
SAY THAT SB EIGHTY THREE DOES
NOT DEAL WITH THE UNDERLYING
PROBLEMS AND THAT WAS IN THE
ANALYSIS I MIGHT ADD. WE AGREE
COMPLETELY. IF WE CAN'T THERE'S
A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM. THE EXACT
EXISTENTIAL THREAT OF CLIMATE
CHANGE IF WE CAN'T MEET OUR
BASIC INTERCONNECTION NEEDS NOW.
HOW WILL WE WILL WE MEET THEM IN
THE FUTURE. YOU WERE HERE LAST
WEEK FOR SENATOR SKINNER'S BILL
ON EV'S THEY'LL BE THREE TIMES
THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
WITHIN THE NEXT TEN YEARS WHO
HAVE TO BE CONNECTED THEY GO
BACK AND FORTH ON THE BATTERIES
THAT'S WHAT THE BILL THAT IT'S
COMPLICATED. AND I KNOW THE
PEOPLE WHO WORK ON THIS FROM
UTILITIES REALIZE HOW
COMPLICATED IS THAT WE MILLIONS
OF MORE HOMES WE'VE GOT TO GO
FROM GAS TO ELECTRICITY. ALL
THAT'S GOING TO BE REWORKED. SO
THE REAL QUESTION HOW WILL WE
DECARBONISE OUR ELECTRICAL
ENERGY SYSTEM WITHIN THE NEXT
FEW DECADES IF NOT SOONER. IF WE
CAN'T MEET THE NEEDS OF TODAY.
GETTING CLOSE. THESE ARE TOUGH
QUESTIONS. BUT I ALSO WANT TO
SAY WE ALL TO GET THIS JOB DONE
WE ALL NEED A HEALTHY ELECTRICAL
TRANSMISSION INDUSTRY FOR THE
FUTURE. I'M NOT HERE TO CAST
ASPERSIONS AND TAKE CAST BLAME
THERE'S PLENTY TO BE SENT AROUND
BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE
NEED TO TALK ABOUT. IF THE
SYSTEM CAN'T MEET THEIR CORE
FUNCTIONS WE NEED TO HELP THEM
FIX THAT PROBLEM. CENTER
BRADFORD WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS A
LITTLE BIT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A
SUGGESTION. YOU'RE THE- A SENIOR
MEMBER IN THE SENATE YOU'RE THE
CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE. AND
YOU HAVE A PARTICULARLY UNIQUE
UNDERSTANDING OF THE ISSUES IN
THE UTILITY WORLD. I WOULD
REALLY LIKE YOU TO LEAD OR STE
THAT CALL FOR A COMMITTEE. OR A
JOINT COMMITTEE EVEN BETTER SO
THAT YOU THIS COMMITTEE CAN
ACTUALLY DEEPLY EXPLORE THE
ISSUES THAT OUR PROBLEM HERE-
SOMETHING THAT'S EDUCATIONAL.
NOT ATTACHED TO A BILL. NO
FINGER POINTING NO ADVERSARIAL
CONVERSATION A REAL EFFORT TO
FIND OUT HOW TO MAKE THE SYSTEM
WORK. BECAUSE IF IT'S A PRESSURE
TEST IF WE CAN'T MEET THE
UTILITIES. PUTTING THEIR
ELECTRICITY INTO THE INTO THE
GRADE. WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHY
BECAUSE WE CAN'T WAIT TO FIGURE
IT OUT LATER. ON BEHALF OF THE
CARPENTERS- SOMEWHAT RELUCTANTLY
BUT VERY RESPECTFULLY ACCEPT
YOUR AMENDMENTS LOOK FORWARD TO.
FURTHER CONVERSATION ON A
CRITICAL DIALOGUE- MISTER
CHAIRMAN AND SENATOR WIENER
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MEMBERS THE
COMMITTEE PLEASE MOVE THIS BILL
FORWARD. AND LET'S HAVE AT IT
OVER THE COURSE OF NEXT FEW
MONTHS. SENATE BACKERS BILL AS
WELL THANK YOU THANK YOU MR
CURTAIN NOW WE'RE GOING TO ASK
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN
THIS ROOM TO STATE YOUR NAME AND
ORGANIZATION. IF YOU'RE IN
SUPPORT. BREVITY IS OUR FRIEND
TODAY. LARA FEINSTEIN WAS CBRE
HERE IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE JORDAN
PLAN A KIND OF A HARD ON BEHALF
OF CALIFORNIAN BE IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. APRIL ATKINS
CARPENTERS LOCAL TWENTY TWO IN
SUPPORT. HEY GOOD AFTERNOON
EVERYONE CRISPLY SEE I'M IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON RICK SALIE'S
CARPENTERS LOCAL ONE FIFTY TWO
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU.
FRANCISCO MARTINEZ CONFERENCE
LOCAL ONE EIGHTY IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. SAYS RODRIGUEZ LOCAL
ONE FIFTY TWO CARPENTERS UNION
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. THE NEW
BESO CARTHAGINIANS LOCAL ONE
EIGHTY IN SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON IS ROBBING A LOCAL
SEVEN THIRTEEN IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON PHAM A LAMP
GAINES CARPENTERS LOCAL FORTY
SIX IN SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHUCK KNOWER CARPENTERS LOCAL
FIFTEEN NINETY NINE IT'S SUPPORT
. ENTER DAWSON ON BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA PARDON CALIFORNIA
HOUSING PARTNERSHIP IN SUPPORT.
KEVIN MAX BEEN COVERS A WHOLE
SEVEN FIVE ONE IN SUPPORT.
MARTIN ESPINOZA SEE YOUR LOOK
TWENTY FOUR BY DRIVERS IN
SUPPORT. ARE YOU STILL DOING
HERE LOCAL THIRTY FIVE CENTER
FILL IN SUPPORT. I DON'T KNOW
WHEN YOU ALSO THE CORPORATE
LEVEL SEVEN THIRTEEN REPRESENT
ALAMEDA COUNTY AND SUPPORT. TIM
RIGHT CARPENTERS LOCAL TWENTY
TWO IN FULL SUPPORT OF SB EIGHTY
THREE. HER FOR A SECOND I
CALIFORNIA'S CORPORATE LOCAL
FORTY SIX I SUPPORT S. B. EIGHTY
THREE THANK YOU. TOTAL VICE
CARPENTERS LOCAL TWO TWO THREE
SIX IN SUPPORT. NEWTON-JOHN'S
HOUSE FOCAL FORTY SIX ARE IN
SACRAMENTO I'M STRONG SUPPORT OF
IS B. EIGHTY THREE. MARK
GONZALEZ CARPENTERS ONE FIFTY
TWO IN SUPPORT. SAID HOWARD A
CARPENTERS LOCAL SEVENTEEN
EIGHTY NINE HEAD OF SOUTH LAKE
TAHOE SUPPORT. MATT KELLY COVERS
LOCAL FORTY SIX SACRAMENTO
STRONGLY SUPPORT. DAN WALTON
LOCAL SEVENTEEN EIGHTY NINE IN
SUPPORT. CHRIS PALMER LOCAL ONE
EIGHTY IN VALLEJO STRONG SUPPORT
. GEAR MOLINA DRIVE A LOT
THERE'S LOCAL NINETY SIXTY EIGHT
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. MARIO
SANTA CRUZ MILLWRIGHTS LOCAL ONE
OR TWO IN SUPPORT. NO WELL
FOREVER MILLWRIGHTS LOCAL ONE OH
TO STRONGLY SUPPORT. OMAR
HERNANDEZ LOCAL NINETY ONE OR
NINE IN SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON
MR CHAN MEMBERS JAMES THROW
ACTOR WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
COUNCIL LABORS IN STRONG SUPPORT
. A GABLE NO RIGHTS WHEN A TO
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON RON
ROULETTE NOR CAL CARPENTERS
UNION IN SUPPORT. DANIEL BRANDON
I DRIVE A LOT THERE'S LOCAL NINE
ONE OR NINE IN STRONG SUPPORT.
CATHERINE BRANDENBURG ON BEHALF
OF SONOMA CLEAN POWER IN SUPPORT
. MEGHAN SHUMWAY FROM SACRAMENTO
IN SUPPORT. JOHN KENNEDY WORLD
COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE
AND ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED IN
SUPPORT OF S. B. EIGHTY THREE.
HEARING SEEN ON NOW WE'RE GOING
TO GO TO ALL OPPOSITION
OPPOSITION IS THERE TO BE
PRIMARY WITNESSES ARE YOU
ACTUALLY MISTER CHAIRMAN I'M-
SCOTT WHAT SHOULD BE OFF THE
CALIFORNIA COALITION OF UTILITY
EMPLOYEES AND SIXTY FIVE
THOUSAND WORKERS MEN AND WOMEN
WHO ACTUALLY PUT THEIR LIVES AT
RISK DOING THIS WORK. WE ARE
REMOVING OUR OPPOSITION WITH THE
AMENDMENTS NOW THAT THE BILL
DIFFERS TO THE BACKER CPUC
PROCESS- WE REMOVE BUT I DO HAVE
MANY OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO DO
THAT WORK AND PUT THEIR LIVES IN
DANGER THERE HERE AND RATHER
THAN TAKE THE COMMITTEES TIME I
JUST WOULD LIKE TO STAND UP AND
BE ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE
COMMITTEE. THAT THEY CAN THANK
YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE
TODAY OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. COME
FOR STATE YOU NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION PLEASE. YOU HAVE TO
MANAGE SHIPS OKAY. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN- MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE VALERIE TRAIL OF LAGOS
ON BEHALF OF PACIFIC GAS AND
ELECTRIC COMPANY- IN OPPOSITION
TO SB EIGHTY THREE- I WANT TO
BEGIN BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE
DISSATISFACTION WITH CUSTOMER
CONNECTION TIME LINES. ON THAT
OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE EXPRESSED IN
MANY INSTANCES. WE'RE NOT
SATISFIED WITH OUR TIMELINES
EITHER. PGD IS ALREADY TAKEN
STEPS TO BEGIN FIXING THESE
ISSUES AND CUSTOMERS ARE ALREADY
EXPERIENCING IMPROVEMENTS. WE'D
ALSO LIKE THIS COMMITTEE TO NO
RPG HAS IN FACT SPENT MORE-
RESOURCES ON NEW BUSINESS
CONNECTIONS IN THE LAST FEW
YEARS THAN WE EVER HAVE. IN FACT
WE'VE INVESTED MORE. THEN THE
AUTHORIZED TO SPEND BY OUR
REGULATORS IN THE GENERAL RATE
CASE ALSO CALLED YOU GUYS KNOW
IT AS THE G. R. C. CASE IN POINT
OUR ACTUAL SPEND HAS ACTUALLY
DOUBLED. IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS
AND I LIKE THIS BECAUSE OF THE
POTENTIAL FALSE ASSUMPTION THAT
SOMEHOW PG&E HAS NOT BEEN
INVESTING IN CONNECTIONS WE
HAVE. AT THE SAME TIME- P.
JEANNIE HAS INVESTED
UNPARALLELED FINANCIAL AND
WORKER RESOURCES TOWARD WILD
FIRE SAFETY IN RECENT YEARS.
WHICH I BELIEVE WE ALL AGREE-
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT
THING TO DO FOR OUR CUSTOMERS
AND THE COMMUNITIES WE SERVE.
THIS UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRE
SAFETY SPEND HAS COME IN
COMBINATION WITH INCREASING LOW
DEMAND AMIDST GROWING
ELECTRIFICATION. EVEY BUILD OUT
HOUSING CANNABIS CULTIVATION AND
OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
CHANGES IN OUR SERVICE
TERRITORY. SO WHILE WE AGREE P.
JEANNIE CAN AND WILL GET BETTER.
AND FASTER AT CUSTOMER
CONNECTIONS. WE DO ASK THAT YOU
WORK WITH US AND THE OTHER
UTILITIES ON POLICY SOLUTIONS.
SOLUTIONS THAT FIX THE ISSUES
AND A LINES LEGISLATIVE AND
REGULATORY FRAMEWORKS TO MEET
THE INCREASED DEMAND. AND NOT
SIMPLY SETTING ARTIFICIAL
TIMELINES AND PENALTIES THAT
ONLY SERVE TO MAKE THINGS
HARDER. OR WORSE. FOR THESE
REASONS P. JEANNIE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSES SB EIGHTY THREE. AND
REQUEST YOUR NO VOTE TODAY THANK
YOU THANK YOU SO WHAT SORRY
MISTER CHAIRMAN. I HAD A FLIP MY
PAGE TWO SIDED. WITH ME I DO
HAVE AN EXPERT WITNESS IF NEEDED
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS MATT VENTURA
IS AN AUDIENCE HERE TODAY- HE'S
OUR SENIOR DIRECTOR OF SERVICE
PLANNING HE CAN ANSWER TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS OF THE COMMITTEE HAS
THEM THANK YOU. THE QUICKNESS.
GOOD AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN
ISRAEL SALAS WITH SAN DIEGO GAS
AND ELECTRIC WE HAVE IN OPPOSE
POSITION BUT- PENDING REVIEW OF
THE AMENDMENTS WILL REEVALUATE
OUR POSITION THEN THANK YOU THE
QUICKNESS. GOOD AFTERNOON
INJURED BECAUSE THERE WAS
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED THANK YOU
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES HERE AROUND TWELVE
HUNDRED THAT ARE OPPOSED TO. SB
EIGHTY THREE. SEEN NONE NO
MODERATOR LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES INTO IF THERE'S WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION OF SB
EIGHTY THREE. THANK YOU MR AND
IF YOU WERE SPEAKING IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION OF SB EIGHTY THREE
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS
TIME. AND WE'LL START WITH LINE
TWENTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. OKAY
WILL MAKE THAT ONE SEVENTY THREE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. RICHARD
BROOKSBY THE THIRD. NINETY ONE
ONLINE OR AT THE. EIGHTY THREE.
ONE EIGHTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
. BOB DOLE WILL CORPORATE FORTY
SIX SACRAMENTO ANONYMOUS SUPPORT
THAT'S THE EIGHTY THREE. ONE
SEVENTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MY NAME IS GIOVANNI ARE LEADING
A MEMBER OF CARPENTERS LOCAL
FORTY SECOND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
SB EIGHTY THREE. LINE THIRTY
FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES MY
NAME IS MORE SO MORE IN THE
CARPENTER LOCAL FOR LOCAL FORTY
SIX I A. STANITSA PORT. SB
EIGHTY THREE. ONE NINETY THREE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES LONGER TERM
TAPIA AND LYFT ONLY SUPPORT THIS
BILL. NUMBER GOOD WORK. YEAH.
ONE ONE SEVENTY FIVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. NOW. FIND ONE SEVENTY
FIVE YOUR LINE IS OPEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. OKAY WILL MOVE- ONE
SEVENTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. DR
IN YOUR MEAL LOCAL THIRTY FOUR
STRONGLY SUPPORT. ONE ONE EIGHTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YOU CAN START
UPS ALL DRIVERS LOCAL THIRTY
FOUR STRONGLY SUPPORT. ONE ONE
NINETY THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD. IF
THE MARK IN THE- ABNER UNION
LOCAL SEVEN OH ONE IT'S A BIT OF
THAT. FIND FORTY NINE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. BUT IT WAS ROB FINLEY
DRYWALL LAUGHTER'S LOOK MONEY
ONE OF NINE SACRAMENTO COMMITTED
SUPPORTER SB EIGHTY THREE. ONE
NINETY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD.
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT SB EIGHT
THREE. ONE ONE SEVENTY FOUR
PLEASE GO AHEAD. NOTHING IN
HARMONY CAL IN COVINGTON LOCAL
SEVEN THIRTEEN CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. I'M TO
SIXTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. I WILL
ROBINSON LOCAL FORTY SIX I AM
STRONG SUPPORTER OF S. U. EIGHTY
THREE. LINE TWO OH FOUR PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON SHANE
GUSMAN ON BEHALF OF THE
TEAMSTERS IN SUPPORT. TWO TWENTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD ONE TO TWENTY.
WE'RE REPORTERS LOCAL SEVEN
FIFTY ONE IT'S NOT MINE IN
STRONG SUPPORT. ONE ONE NINETY
FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE NIGHT
BEFORE YOU LINE IS OPEN. WOMAN
ON THE LINE ONE TWENTY NINE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. I DIDN'T GET
THAT FOR ALL ITS MEMBER AND
PRESIDENT THE CARPENTERS LOCAL
SEVEN THIRTEEN AND WE ARE STRONG
SUPPORT. ONE TWO SEVENTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
TWENTY SEVENTEEN I'M SORRY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MICHAEL YOUR
EYE WHILE LAUGHING NINETY SIXTY
EIGHT L. IN SUPPORT OF SB EIGHT
THREE. LINE ONE TWENTY EIGHT
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI THIS IS ED
EVANS OF NOR CAL CARPENTERS
UNION LOCAL TWO SEVENTEEN
CALLING IN SUPPORT OF S. B.
EIGHTY THREE. ONE THIRTY TWO
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
MARTIN ESPINOZA ON BEHALF NOR
CALIFORNIA'S UNION ON IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF S. B. ONE TO FOURTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT
BARBARA COUNTY MOBILE LOCAL ONE
LADY THE STRONG SUPPORTER THAT
WE- SB. EIGHTY THREE.
BUT ONE EIGHTY TO PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HOW ONE EIGHTY TO YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. ONE IN A CAN GO ON
WITH THE CARPENTERS UNION LOCAL
NINETY ONE FORTY FOURTH AND
FINAL DAY I STRONGLY SUPPORT AT
THE EIGHTY THREE. ONE ONE EIGHTY
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. LONZA
KATANA DRYWALL OTHER LOCAL
NINETY TWO C. A. L. THAT'S GOING
TO SUPPORT FTA. HOPEFUL. ONE
TWENTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO THIS IS VICTOR ON THE
DAILY PRESIDENT OF LOCAL STUFF A
FIFTY ONE I AM VERY STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS. ONE FORTY ONE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. RECKONING
LAVENDER FROM CARPENTERS LOCAL
ELEVEN OH NINE IN THE BALLOT IN
SUPPORT S. B. EIGHTY THREE. I
AND ONE FORTY THREE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES GOOD AFTERNOON MY
NAME IS DR SCHERER MOTHER
CARPENTERS LOCAL SIX OH FIVE IN
MONTEREY COUNTY AND- IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF S. B. EIGHTY THREE.
FINE EIGHTY TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD
. I'M NOT A CHRISTIAN ADELA
MEMBER OUT OF CONFIDENCE LOCAL
SEVEN A ONE FRESNO AND I'M
CALLING SUPPORT OF FIFTY EIGHTY
THANK YOU. I'M MODERATE LET'S
JUST SUSPEND CALLS REAL QUICK SO
WE CAN STOP THE COR- SO THEN
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. BRADFORD
BRADFORD HERE DALLY ASHBY HERE
SB HERE BECKER. BECKER HEAR
CABALLERO DODD DORADO HERE DR SO
HERE EGGMAN EGGMAN HERE GONZALEZ
GROWTH HERE GROW HERE MCGUIRE
MEN MEN HERE NEWMAN NEWMAN HERE
RUBIO SEYARTO SKINNER STERN
STERN HERE WILK PRESIDENT WILL
PRESENT. ONE SHARE WE'LL START
WITH ONE FIFTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. ONE BUT NOR CAL
CARPENTERS UNION LOCAL TWO
SEVENTEEN FOSTER THIRTY IT
SUPPORT OF SB EIGHTY THREE THANK
YOU. ONE ONE NINETY FIVE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. ANTONIO A LOT OF LOCAL
ELEVEN ON- NINE BY SONYA IN
STRONG SUPPORT. ONE TO FIFTEEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. WORKING AS
CARPENTERS LOCAL FIFTY NINE NINE
REDDING CALIFORNIA AND STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB EIGHTY THREE. LINE
FIFTY FIVE ZERO PLEASE GO AHEAD
. WE WARY LOCAL NINE ONE ONLINE
DRYWALL OUT THERE'S A LOT OF
SACRAMENTO IN SUPPORT OF AS BE
EIGHTY THREE. LINE SEVENTY FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. AFTERNOON MY
NAME IS. WHAT'S THE PLAN WITH
MODOC CARPENTERS UNION LOCAL 45%
OF IT NAMAN SUPPORTERS B.
EIGHTY. BY TWENTY THREE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON CAME
WERE MEMBERS EGGMAN PUBLIC LOCAL
TWENTY TWO IN OF AB. EIGHTY
THREE. LINE ONE ONE PLEASE GO.
HI MY NAME STEP VERSION A MEMBER
OF THE NOR CAL CARPENTERS UNION
AND I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF S.
B. EIGHT EIGHTY THREE. FINE TWO
TWENTY FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON JENNIFER MENTAL
WHAT THE CALIFORNIA HOUSING
CONSORTIUM AND TRY. EIGHT EIGHTY
THREE. LINE THIRTY SEVEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. BARBECUE GROUP OF
CARPENTERS UNION LOCAL SIXTY
EIGHT L. LIVERMORE AND I SUPPORT
SB EIGHT THREE. LINE TWO OH FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. AND HE SAYS A
SCIENTIST MEMBER OF LOCAL NINETY
SIX EIGHT L. IN SUPPORT OF IS
THE EIGHTY THREE THANK YOU. ONE
ONE THIRTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. ON
ONE THIRTEEN YOUR LINE IS OPEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE ONE SEVENTY
FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD. GERMAN
COMMITTEE MADE RANCHO THEM A-
MEMBER OF LOCAL THIRTY FOUR
POWER DRIVERS AND I AM STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB EIGHTY THREE THANK
YOU. ONE ONE THIRTY SIX PLEASE
GO AHEAD. IN ST- LOCAL THIRTY
FIVE IN FROM OR SB EIGHTY THREE
. BLIND TO ELEVEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS
RELIABLE AUTO LOCAL NINETY ONE
FORTY FOUR OUT OF SAN JOSE GOING
TO SUPPORT SB EIGHTY THREE.
THANK YOU. HI NINE ONE EIGHTY
FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON BENJAMIN LOPEZ
CARPENTERS LOCAL ELEVEN ONLINE
LIFESTYLE YET IN SUPPORT S. B.
EIGHTY THREE VD MODERATOR CAN
YOU LET US KNOW HOW MANY MORE
CALLS WE STILL HAVING Q. THERE'S
ELEVEN REMAINING. WE WILL CUT IT
OFF AT THAT ELEVEN STILL MAKES
YOUR THIS THOSE ALL LAVAL LEVIN
WILL BE OUR LAST. YES SIR. A
LOCAL LINE TO TWENTY TO PLEASE
GO AHEAD. VETERANS CARE MEMBERS
WHOSE PROFITS ON THE GOLD ON
BEHALF OF GMB ACTION CALLING IN
SUPPORT- ON BEHALF OF THE ALL
THE THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS AND
THOUSANDS OF CHAPTERS AND
PARTNERS ACROSS THE STATE THANK
YOU. ONE SIXTY SIX PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME A DEMO AGAR
OF CARPENTERS LOCAL SEVEN ZERO
ONE FRESNO IN SUPPORT OF SB
EIGHTY THREE THANK YOU. A LINE
EIGHTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO MY NAME IS ARGHA RESTORE
LOCAL NINETY WALK REFORM ACT
ALSO FOR OVER. I'M FOR THE POOR
RIGHT IS V. EIGHT. ONE EIGHTY
FOUR PLEASE GO. ROBERT ONE
CORPORATE LOCAL NINETY ONE A
NINE IN SUPPORT OF THE. EIGHTY
THREE. I'M EIGHTY FIVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YOU CAN GO HOME LOCAL
NINETY ONE OH NINE WILL SUPPORT
. ONE TWO TWELFTH PLEASE GO
AHEAD. JOHN REED PARTNER LEVEL
FIFTEEN NINETY NINE REDDING
CALIFORNIA IN FULL SUPPORT OF
THAT THE EIGHTY THREE. BLIND
EIGHTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE
SHOW FOR AS A MEMBER OF LOCAL
THIRTY FOUR POWER DRIVERS IN
SUPPORT OF SB EIGHTY THREE. AND
LINE FIFTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD
. SENATE WHERE LOCAL FORTY SIX
CARPENTERS IN SUPPORT OF SB
EIGHTY THREE. MISTER CHAIR WE
HAVE NO ONE ELSE WHICH IS B.
THANK YOU FOR SHOULD PRE SHOOTER
VICE PATIENTS NOW WILL BRING
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ANY
QUESTIONS CONCERNS. AS RELATES
TO S. B. EIGHTY THREE. HUH ARMS
WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM OPPOSITE
YOU KNOW WITH THAT WHAT WE GET
THOSE THAT WAS FOR ME GOTCHA WE
DID PHONES SO WE'RE BRINGING IT
BACK TO CA ANY CONCERNS WITH THE
BILL. THE MOTION BY SENATOR
EGGMAN WE HAVE A DO PASS
RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS CHAIR OF HYMNS
OUT. SENATOR BAKER. I TO RECYCLE
I CERTAINLY SURE YOU FIRST ABOUT
INTERCONNECTIONS AND- BEFORE THE
DISCUSSIONS GOING FORWARD.
SENATOR GROWTH. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR AND I DO SHARE YOUR
FRUSTRATIONS AND- FIRST I WANT
TO THANK THE AS YOU KNOW THE
WORKERS THAT PUT THEIR LIFE ON
THE LINE EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE- AT LEAST TRY TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAVE POWER. AND WHO
WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT- I WOULD
BE SO IN SUPPORT HAVE A SCOTT
WIENER BILL I'M FROM CENTRAL
VALLEY HE'S FROM SAN FRANCISCO
IDEOLOGY. ALL SEE YOU KNOW JUST
WE I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER
REALLY AGREED ON MUCH AND- BUT
WE DO SHARE THE SAME FRUSTRATION
IN CONNECTIVITY. N. I THINK A
YOU KNOW PART OF IT A LOT OF IT
IS P. GENIE BUT I THINK IT'S
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LARGE
SERVICE AREA I THINK THAT THEY
HAVE THE LARGEST RULE SERVICE
AREA I THINK THEY HAVE THE
LARGEST AND- YOU KNOW
METROPOLITAN AND RURAL AREAS
THAT THEY HAVE TO SERVE AND NOT
TO DEAL YOU KNOW AND NOT TO
MENTION DEALING WITH WILDFIRES
AND OTHER THINGS AND I'M NOT.
DEFENDING THEM I'M JUST SAYING
THAT I UNDERSTAND THERE'S
REASONS WHY THE CONNECTIVITY'S
DIFFICULT. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT
WHEN PEOPLE BUILD A HOME THEY
EXPECT TO HAVE POWER I ALSO KNOW
THAT WHEN FARMERS AND SWITCH
OVER TO SOLAR IN THE NEW THAT
FLIPS WHICH OTHER SELLER WILL-
TAKE PLACE. AND THEY NEED
CONNECTIVITY. AS YOU KNOW DO
I'VE REACHED OUT TO P. JEANNIE
SEVERAL TIMES ON SEVERAL ISSUES-
SOME OF THOSE ISSUES THEY'VE
BEEN VERY HELPFUL WITH AND SOME
OF THEM. YOU KNOW WE'RE STILL
WAITING AND- IT'LL BE THIRTEEN
MONTHS THAT HOUSES WAITING TO
PUT A MOTHER LOST QUARTERS
BEHIND THE MAIN PROPERTY. AFTER
THE HOUSES ALREADY BUILT AND
THERE'S NO NEED FOR ANYTHING
ELSE RIGHT WE'RE JUST WAITING
FOR CONNECTIVITY. THEY'VE GOT
THE YOU KNOW THE FOUNDATION THE
FLOOR THE WALLS THE CARPET THE
DECORATIONS THE FURNITURE
EVERYTHING IS THERE YOU JUST
CAN'T RESIDE IN IT BECAUSE
THERE'S NO POWER. AND IT'S ON A
PROPERTY THAT ALREADY HAS POWER.
I HAVE- SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON IN MY DISTRICT AS WELL WE
HAVE A BRAND NEW PROJECT OUT IN.
AND THE EAST KERN AREA IT'S A
GREEN REBAR AREAS WE CAN BRING
THAT. AS YOU KNOW PRODUCTION IN
FROM CHINA IT'S TOTALLY A LABOR.
OF THE LABOR ORGANIZATION THE
COMPANIES PUTTING IN FIFTY THREE
MILLION DOLLARS IN THE COUNTIES
DURING THE HOLY I. R. AND- WE'RE
BEING TOLD THAT IT'S FIVE YEARS
WAITING. WAS COMMITTEES I CAN
WAIT FIVE YEARS TO PUT IN THIS
BIG MANUFACTURING FACILITY WOULD
PROVIDE JOBS. IN MY DISTRICT. I
HAVE A FARMER THAT TO AN
INTEREST AND I HAVE I MEAN IT'S
LIKE THE UTILITY CONNECTIVITY
THE I OWE YOU IS THE NUMBER ONE
ISSUE. THAT CALLS MY OFFICE AND
I'M JUST HIGHLIGHTING A FEW OF
THE ONES THAT I THINK ARE THE
MOST EGREGIOUS. AND I REALIZE
THAT YOU HAVE TO WAIT SOME TIME
HERE IN THE CONGO I WAITED TWO
WEEKS WEALTHY A LOT MONTHS
LONGER TO WAIT AND WE TELL THEM
THAT. BUT LIKE THIS FARMER THREE
GROWING SEASONS HE PUT AN
ELECTRIC FORKLIFTS. MANY WAS
USING AN GAS POWERED GENERATORS
BIG GENERATORS TO POWER. THE
ELECTRIC FORKLIFTS BECAUSE HE
DIDN'T HAVE THE ELECTRICITY AND
TO BE ABLE TO. EMPOWER THOSE
FORKLIFTS NOW THESE COMPANIES
THAT ARE TRYING TO GO GREEN PER
SE. BUT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
CONNECTIVITY SAID ON RULES WE
GET THE CPUC COMMISSIONERS IN
FRONT OF US. AND WE QUESTION AND
WHAT WE NEED TO AT THE- USE IN
THE CONNECT. IS BECAUSE DO AN
ISSUE WITH CONNECTIVITY. AND I'M
NOT SAYING THAT PG&E SDG NEED
THEY'RE NOT IN MY TERRITORY BUT
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON I'M
NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT TRYING.
AND I APPLIED- VALERIE FROM P.
JEANNIE FOR COMING UP SAYING
THAT YOU KNOW WE KNOW WE HAVE A
PROBLEM WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO
FIX IT. M. BUT IF THERE'S AN
ISSUE- THAT CAN HELP IT IS AND
THE CARPENTERS HERE TODAY. AND I
REALIZE THAT- I B. W. AND
OTHERS- DO THAT WORK EVERY
SINGLE DAY. BUT IF YOU GUYS NEED
HELP TO GET US OUT OF THIS
THERE'S NOBODY. ORGANIZATION
THEN THE CARPENTERS OF THEIR
TRAINING QUALIFIED- SO I EAT I
JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO
ADDRESS THIS ISSUE I APPRECIATE
THE AUTHOR BRING IT FORWARD TO
THE CONVERSATION CAN EVEN TAKE
PLACE- AND- I SUPPORTED YOUR
BILL BEFORE THE AMENDMENT SO I'M
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY AFTER
THE AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR
DEBATE REGARDING THIS ITEM.
SOONER WIENER WHICH ELECT CLOSE.
I THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN I
WANT TO THANK. PEOPLE ON BOTH
SIDES. OF THIS I'M PARTICULARLY
WANT TO THANK. ALL THE ALL THE
WORKERS ON BOTH SIDES- WHO WERE
OUT TODAY AND HERE AND- IN
SPIRIT WE HAVE. CARPENTERS AND
OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TRADES
WERE. BUILDING NEW HOMES
BUILDING NEW BUILDINGS PUTTING
NEW CLEAN ENERGY INSTALLATIONS.
IN PLACE WE HAVE UTILITY
WORKERS. WHO ARE WORKING EVERY
DAY WHEN IT'S RAINING AND
FLOODING- WHEN THOSE WILDFIRES
WHEN IT'S EXTREME HEAT. AND THAT
THEY HAVE TO BE OUT THERE. TO
MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE
WORKING AND THEY ARE. PUTTING
THEMSELVES AT RISK AND IT'S A-
UNBELIEVABLY HARD JOB AND THEY
DO IT AND THEY DO IT. WELL SO WE
HAVE WORKERS UP AND DOWN THE
STATE. WHO ARE DOING THE VERY
VERY BEST THEY CAN WHETHER IT'S
BUILDING NEW HOUSING OR KEEPING
THE GRID RUNNING- BUT WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE. THAT THE UTILITIES
THEMSELVES. ARE MAKING THE RIGHT
CHOICES. TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE
INTERCONNECTIONS CAN HAPPEN AND
THERE ARE A LOT OF CORPORATE
CHOICES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE OVER
THE YEARS. TEKELI WAS ONE OF THE
UTILITIES. THAT HAVE LED TO THE
SITUATION- AND- IT HAS TO BE
FAXED. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT
IT'S AN EASY ISSUE. BUT EVEN
THOUGH IT'S COMPLEX IT'S PRETTY
BASIC WE GOTTA TURN ON THE
LIGHTS AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
HER AYE VOTE. THANK YOU I JUST
WANT TO STAY BY ACCEPTING
COMMITTEE MEMBER AND TO REALLY-
ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD TO
ENSURE THAT BOTH BILLS BOTH
YOURS AND- THE RELATED BILL BY
SENATOR BACKREST BEFORE. TEN OUR
WORK IN COMPLEMENTARY OF EACH
OTHER NOT IN CONFLICT AND I
APPRECIATE THAT BOTH BILLS ARE
TRYING TO RESOLVE WHAT IS A REAL
ISSUE. THIS- PRESIDED PRISON YOU
KNOW ENERGY. INTERNALIZATION I'M
SORRY. REGARDING THIS BACKLOG
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT RELATES TO
PG&E SOUL BUT ALL UTILITIES ARE
SUFFERING FROM IT. AND I ALSO
WANT TO STATE THAT- WE RESERVE
THE RIGHT TO PULL THE BILL BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE IF IT- IS
AMENDED INNER MATTER THAT FAR
DIFFERENT IN WHAT WE HAVE PASSED
YOUR TODAY. AND AS A FORMER
EATALY EMPLOYEE I COMMEND YOU
AGAIN THIS IS NOT A UNIQUE ISSUE
OF TODAY THIS IS BEEN SOMETHING
THAT HAS BEEN. PROLONGED IN
EXISTING AND A UTILITY WORLD FOR
A NUMBER OF YEARS SO THIS LEVEL
OF- LAGGING AND CONNECTIONS IS
TRULY. HARMFUL TO THE STATE IN
MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND-
INDIVIDUALS AS WE'VE HEARD CHAU.
AT THAT NO WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR EGGMAN. WE HAVE A DO
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS CONSULTANT PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. BRADFORD BRADFORD
AYE DALY ASHLEY HI SB I. BECKER.
BECKER I CABALLERO. DODD DORADO.
DRAWS- I EGGMAN. EGGMAN AYE
GONZALEZ GROWTH. GROW BY.
MCGUIRE MEN. MEN NEWMAN. NEWMAN
READ. C. R. SKINNER. STERN STERN
AYE WILK. HI OKAY. AND THE
MEASURE REST VOTES ENOUGH TO GET
OUT BELIEVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS OUT ON THANK YOU
SENATOR WINNER. NEXT UP WE HAVE
SENATOR- ARATTA GIL SHE HAS
FALLEN INTO S. B. FOUR EIGHT
EIGHT. THANK. I THINK.
YOU READY FOR ME CHAIR. CORRECT
THANK YOU I'M AT MISTER CHAIR
AND MEMBERS ARE SENATE BILL
EIGHT FIVE NINE FROM TWO
THOUSAND AND SIXTEEN DIRECTED
THE I. O. U.'S IN THE LARGEST
PPO USED TO PROCURE THEIR PER
PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF A HUNDRED
TWENTY FIVE MEGAWATTS OF BIOMASS
ENERGY. THE LEGISLATURE DIRECTED
THAT PORTION OF THE COSTS FROM
THE BIRAM PROCUREMENTS TO BE
ALLOCATED TO ALL CUSTOMERS WITH
AN AYE YOU USE COMMUNITY CHOICE
AGGREGATORS ARE CCA'S AND THE
ENERGY SERVICE PROVIDERS GIVEN
THAT THEY ARE BROAD SOCIAL
BENEFITS THAT ARE REALIZED FROM
SUPPORTING WILDFIRE MITIGATION.
LAST YEAR SENATE BILL ELEVEN OH
NINE BY SENATOR COUPLE YET ALL
EXTENDED THESE BIRAM CONTRACTS
FROM FIVE TO FIFTEEN YEARS BUT
IT ALSO PROVIDED AN EXEMPTION
FOR CERTAIN CONTRACTS
SPECIFICALLY THE P. O. U. P. O.
USED JOINTLY ENTERED INTO TWO
CONTRACTS AND EIGHTEEN MEGAWATT
CONTRACT WITH WILTON AND ELEVEN
MEGAWATT CONTRACT WITH ROSEBURG
FOREST PRODUCTS. UNDER SENATE
BILL ELEVEN OH NINE THESE
CONTRACTS DO NOT NEED TO BE
EXTENDED BECAUSE LOYALTON FILED
FOR BANKRUPTCY AND ROSEBURG
FOREST PRODUCTS ARE NOT
CONNECTED WITH THE CHI SO GRID.
SO THE RESULT OF THIS IS THAT
APPROXIMATELY THIRTY MEGAWATTS
FROM THE ORIGINAL ONE HUNDRED
TWENTY FIVE MEGAWATTS WHICH THIS
LEGISLATURE EXPECTED. ARE STILL
REMAIN OUTSTANDING. SENATE BILL
FOUR EIGHTY EIGHT SIMPLY ALLOWS
THE COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATORS
TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BIRAM
PROGRAM TO HELP PREPARE THE
REMAINING THIRTY MEGAWATTS AS
INTENDED BY THIS LEGISLATURE.
HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL OUR CHRISTIAN KIRSTEN
COPIC. KRISTIN KOPECKY. FROM
PIONEER COMMUNITY ENERGY AND
DOUGLAS LINDGREN FROM OUT LASSEN
POWER. WELL TO YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES EACH ON THE TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES. THANK YOU KRISTIN
KOPECKY WITH PIONEER COMMUNITY
ENERGY AND SPONSOR OF SB FOUR
EIGHTY EIGHT. PANEER IS A
COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATOR CCA
FORMED IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN-
WHICH SUPPLIES APPROXIMATELY ONE
POINT NINE MILLION MEGAWATT
HOURS OF ELECTRICITY TO OVER A
HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND
CUSTOMER ACCOUNTS AND PLASTER
AND EL DORADO COUNTIES. WERE
LOCATED IN THE SIERRA NEVADA
REGION AND OUR COMMUNITY HAS
EXPERIENCED SEVERAL DEVASTATING
WILDFIRES IN RECENT YEARS. TO
HELP MINIMIZE WILDFIRES ARE
LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM INCLUDE
SUPPORT FOR LEGISLATION THAT
ALLOWS PANEER TO PROCURE BIOMASS
ENERGY FROM LOCAL RESOURCES.
ALTHOUGH BIOMASS IS EXPENSIVE
MINOR SUPPORTS PROCUREMENT OF
BIOMASS ENERGY FOR TWO MAIN
REASONS THE NEED TO REMOVE HIGH
HAZARD MATERIAL FROM OUR FORESTS
TO REDUCE THE RISK OF
CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES. AND THE
FACT THAT BIOMASS IS A BASE LOAD
RENEWABLE ENERGY THE QUALIFIES
TOWARDS CPUC MANDATED CLEAN FIRM
RESOURCE REQUIREMENTS. THAT ALSO
IMPROVES GRID RESILIENCY WHEN SB
A FIFTY NINE PASSED IN TWENTY
SIXTEEN THE COST OF THE BIO RAM
PROGRAM WAS ALLOCATED TO ALL
CUSTOMERS WHEN THEN WITHIN THE
I. O. U. SERVICE TERRITORY. THIS
MEANS THAT CCA REPAIR SUBSIDIZED
THE NINETY FIVE MEGAWATTS OF
BIOMASS ENERGY PROCURED BY THE
I. O. U. SINCE TWENTY SIXTEEN
AND YET CCA'S WERE NOT ELIGIBLE
TO PROCURE UNDER THE BIO RAM
PROGRAM. SINCE THE MUNICIPAL
UTILITIES ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED
TO PROCURE THEIR PROPORTIONATE
SHARE OF THE ORIGINAL HUNDRED
TWENTY FIVE MEGAWATTS. CCA'S
WOULD LIKE TO STEP IN AND HELP
PROCURE THE REMAINING PORTION OF
APPROXIMATELY THIRTY MEGAWATTS.
WE ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE
COSTS THAT WOULD BE BORNE BY
RATEPAYERS AS A RESULT OF THIS
PROGRAM. WE'VE CALCULATED THE
IMPACT TO RATE PAYERS ASSUMING
ALL THIRTY MEGAWATTS WERE
PROCURED BY THE PEENE. WITHIN P.
GENIES TERRITORY. AND THE COST
OF BIOMASS IS APPROXIMATELY A
HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS A MEGAWATT
THE SUBSIDIZED COST TO THE
SIXTEEN MILLION REPAIRS WITHIN
P. GENIES TERRITORY. INCLUDING
CCA CUSTOMERS AND ENERGY SERVICE
PROVIDERS WOULD BE POINT OH FIVE
SIX CENTS A YEAR OR HALF OF A
HALF OF A PENNY. PER KILOWATT
HOUR. THE BIRAM SUBSIDY WOULD
REDUCE THE COST OF BIOMASS FROM
HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS TO A
HUNDRED AND TEN DOLLARS
SUBSIDIZING APPROXIMATELY FORTY
DOLLARS. THANK YOU WE ASK FOR
AYE VOTE. NEXT PRIMARY WITNESS
TWO MINUTES. GOOD AFTERNOON DOUG
LINGERING AT MOUNT LASSEN POWER-
THIS- MEL LASSEN POWER IS IN
WESTWOOD. AB AND THAT TOWN IS
ALSO IN SENATOR DALLAS DISTRICT.
AND WE HAD- I HAD PURCHASED SAT
POWER PLANT THAT WAS SHUT DOWN
IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND- IN
HOPES TO GET THIS STARTED AND BE
ABLE TO UTILIZE THE BILE RAM-
PROGRAM- SINCE THEN THE DIXIE
FIRE. HAD CAME THROUGH THOSE-
MULTIPLE COUNTIES. AND THIS IS
GOING TO BE FOR USE IN THIS
POWER PLANT WOULD BE A GREAT
TOOL TO- USE FOR POST FIRE
CLEANUP AND FUEL REDUCTION. WORK
THAT'S- OUT THERE TO BE DONE IN
FRONT OF THESE FIRES THE JOBS
THAT IT WOULD CREATE. AT AT
MOUNT LASSEN POWER WOULD BE ON
THE PAY ROLL OF SOMEWHERE AROUND
TWO MILLION DOLLARS. THE
INDIRECT JOBS WOULD BE OVER
FIFTY. AND THE AMOUNT OF WOULD.
THAILAND'S PER YEAR THAT WOULD
BE USED AND CONSUMED AT THIS
POWER PLANT WOULD BE ABOUT TWO
HUNDRED THOUSAND TONS- BIG
SUPPORTERS FOR THE POWER PLANT
IS FROM THE USDA FOR SERVICE.
THROUGH THE FUEL REDUCTIONS IN
SIGHT CRAP THAT WE HAVE ALSO
THEY HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORTERS IN
GRANTS ALSO CAL FIRE HAS BEEN-
BIG SUPPORTERS IN THE FOR THE
PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE PRIVATE.
LANDOWNERS FOR FUEL REDUCTIONS
IN SITE PREP ALONG WITH THE FOR
ALL THE TREE PLANTING. AND FOR
THE BIO RAM PROGRAM THAT'S WE
FEEL THAT THIS IS A VERY GOOD
FIT FOR THIS POWER PLANT AND
WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BE ABLE TO GET THIS PUT TOGETHER
AND GIVE A OPPORTUNITY FOR
LANDOWNERS- PRIVATE AND FEDERAL
SECTORS HERE TO BE ABLE TO. TAKE
CARE OF LOT OF THE POST FIRE AND
FURY ACTION THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS NICK WHEN THIS IS
JUST STATE YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION YOUR POSITION.
THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
CHASE AND I COULD ON BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY CHOICE
ASSOCIATION ALSO IN SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MILLION MARVIS
WITH M. C. E. HERE IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON AUDRA
HARTMAN ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA BIOMASS ENERGY
ALLIANCE IN SUPPORT. NIKULIN ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
FORESTRY ASSOCIATION SUPPORT
THANK YOU. MISTER MEMBERS BRIAN
WHITE ON BEHALF OF FORCED MANAGE
OF CALIFORNIA AND CAL FOR
LICENSE FORCES SOCIALIZATION
ALSO IN SUPPORT. MISTER MEMBERS
PAUL EUROPE YOU HAVE THE
PLEASURE COUNTY BOARD IN SUPPORT
. STEVE BAKER WITH THEIR NEED
ASSOCIATES FOR SILICON VALLEY
CLEAN ENERGY IN SUPPORT. RIGHT
JOHN KENNEDY WITH RC RC SO WE
DON'T HAVE A LETTER FOR YOU BUT
ALSO WANTS TO SUPPORT SUPPORT
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT NOW LET'S
MOVE TO OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION WE HAVE PRIMARY
WOULDN'T SHOW UP TO MANAGE TO
STICK TO A POSITION- GOOD
AFTERNOON READY BACKGROUNDS-
BEHALF OF PACIFIC GAS ELECTRIC
WE HAVE AN OPPOSE POSITION ON
THE BILL BOB. I THINK THE
ANALYSIS DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB
OF LAYING OUT OUR CONCERNS AND
SUGGESTED MEMBERS TO REMEDY THEM
ABOUT MY UNDERSTAND IS THE
AUTHOR WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTING
THOSE. SO- WE'VE HAD IT THERE'S
A BIT OF A HISTORY LESSON HERE
ON ON BY A RAM WHERE IT WAS A WE
UNDERSTAND THE STATEWIDE NEED TO
PROCESS ADDITIONAL HIGH HOUSING
FUELS WE'RE ONE OF LARGEST
PRODUCER OF HIGH HOUSING FUELS
AND DEALING WITH BY MASTER FORCE
AND HOW WE CAN. PROPERLY AN
INPUT INTO OUR SUPPLY CHAIN
THROUGH ENERGY OR THROUGH GAS
WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF
SOLUTIONS. THE STATE MANDATED
THAT WE PROCURE OUR
PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE BIRAM
WHICH WE HAVE DONE AND THE STATE
HAS- RE UP THAT AUTHORIZATION
MULTIPLE TIMES. YEP ARE ALREADY
PAYING WHAT WE VIEWED AS THE
COST CAP OF THAT WHICH IS AN
ABOVE MARKET- COSTS THAT OUR
CUSTOMERS ARE BEARING FOR THIS
TYPE OF ENERGY THAT IS. WAY MORE
EXPENSIVE THAN OTHER TYPES OF
COMPATIBLE RENEWABLE TECHNOLOGY
SO. FOR AVERAGE RISK ACTION-
ABOUT WHAT IS NEED FOR BASE LOAD
POWER THERE'S OTHER COMPATIBLE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE SHOULD BE
LOOKING AT RATHER THAN LOOK.
RAISING THE COST FOR ALL OF OUR
CUSTOMERS- OUT ANOTHER
FUNDAMENTAL BASIS WE OPPOSE-
CCA'S. ARE WERE FORMED TO
PROCURE LOCAL RESOURCES WITH
LOCAL- VALUES THEY FIND-
BENEFICIAL PAID FOR BY THOSE
LOCAL CUSTOMERS. THEY'RE NOT
FORM TO MAKE VOLUNTARY DECISIONS
AND PASS THOSE COSTS ON TO ARE
YOUR CUSTOMERS WITHOUT A CHOICE-
ARE CONTRACTS THAT WE DO SIGN
ARE GO THROUGH A RIGOROUS
PROCESS OF OVERSIGHT IF YOU SEE
ABOUT THE COSTS AND THE VALUE
OF. THE CONTRACT. THAT'S NOT
NECESSARILY THE CASE HERE- SO WE
OPPOSE AND A HABIT ASKING
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU YOU DO SO
SYNOPSIS. CATHERINE BOARD WITH
THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE. THANK YOU.
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN
ROMAN UP IN OPPOSITION TO SB
FOUR EIGHT EIGHT. HEARING CHINO
WILL BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WITH
COMMITTEE. SOONER STERN. THANK
YOU MISTER JUST CLARIFYING- THE
AMENDMENTS ARE THEY ALL BEING
SEPARATE SUMMER PART JUST WANT
TO GET CLARITY ON THAT WELL
CENTER STERN- I DIDN'T WANT TO
MAKE THIS ABOUT RULE VERSUS
URBAN BUT THIS IS CERTAINLY A
DAVID VERSUS GOLIATH BATTLE- THE
INTENT OF THIS BILL IS TO BRING-
A GROUP. OF AT CCS CCA'S THAT
ARE ALREADY SUBSIDIZE
SUBSIDIZING BIRAM. TO ALLOW THEM
TO PLAY ALLOW THEM TO BE IN THE
GAME AND SO THE AMENDMENTS THAT
WERE PROPOSED ESSENTIALLY TAKE
US OUT OF THE GAME AND THAT'S
NOT THE INTENT OF THE BILL SO I
CANNOT. ACCEPT THAT. OKAY ANY
FURTHER DISCUSSION OR DEBATE ON
THIS ISSUE WELL- SOONER
APPRECIATE YOUR MEASURE HEARING
ON THE STRONG SUPPORTER BIOMASS
BUT- CURRENTLY CCA'S HOW THE
FORTY RIGHT NOW UNDER STATUTE
TWO. PURCHASES COMMODITY WHERE I
HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AND- YOU
FOLKS ARE THE CONTINUED OF SUBS-
REPAIRS HAVING TO SUBSIDIZE SUCH
PROGRAMS I UNDERSTAND THAT
YOU'RE- NOT TAKING THAT
AMENDMENT I WILL NOT BE
SUPPORTING THIS MEASURE TODAY
SO- I IT'S NOT FAIR TO ALL THESE
OTHER CUSTOMERS THAT THEY
CONTINUE TO. SUBSIDIZE THAT
WOULD SEE CA C. C. H. CURRENTLY
CAN DO UNDER STATUTE AND- SO I
WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTED TODAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YOU THE
PHONE I WANT TO ONCE I'M SORRY
I'M MY BACK. CAN WE GO TO PHONE
LINES IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
OF THIS MEASURE. IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF SB FOUR EIGHTY
EIGHT PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO
AT THIS TIME. AND JUST MOUNT
MISTER CHAIR WILL GATHER ONE
NUMBER. AND WE'LL GO TO LINE
NUMBER ONE NINETY PLEASE GO
AHEAD. ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA WATER
AGENCIES IN PART. MISTER
CHAIRMAN NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE AT
THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT NOW WILL
BRING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS OR
DEBATE. WOW WE HAVE A TO PASS AS
AMENDED BUT- ARE. AUTHOR STATE
SHE'S NOT ACCEPTING THE MOMENT
SO ON. DO PASS APPROPRIATIONS.
I'M SORRY. HE'S. HE SAID YEAH
YEAH. WE'RE STILL SEEKING A
MOTION SO MOVED BY WILK. BEEN
MOVED BY SENATOR WILK. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. OPPORTUNITY CLOSE
CHAIR AREN'T THANK YOU. SO LET'S
TALK ABOUT FAIRNESS SO I COME
FROM A RURAL COMMUNITY WHERE OUR
VOICE IS AT THE DAVID IN A
GOLIATH EQUATION WE TALK ABOUT
FAIRNESS WE THINK ABOUT PARADISE
AND WE STILL MOURN PARADISE.
WHEN IT COMES TO FAIRNESS THE
SIERRA FOOTHILLS AND THE EASTERN
SIERRAS AND THE NORTHERN REGIONS
ARE DONE BEING VICTIMS OF
MASSIVE WILDFIRES. TODAY WHAT
YOU HEARD WAS OPPOSITION FROM
THE GOLIATH. AND SUPPORT FROM
ALL THE DAVIDS WHO CONTINUE TO
PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE BEST
PLAYGROUND IN CALIFORNIA FOR THE
SECOND HOMES OF CALIFORNIA FOR
THE SKI RESORTS OF CALIFORNIA
FOR THE AG COMMUNITY OF
CALIFORNIA. LET'S TALK ABOUT
FAIRNESS BECAUSE AS A P. JEANNIE
CUSTOMER. I'M PROBABLY WITHOUT
POWER AT LEAST TWO TO THREE
TIMES A MONTH. AND WHAT THAT
MEANS FOR ME BEING A ROLE
COMMUNITY RESIDENT IS I GO
WITHOUT WATER BECAUSE IT'S
ATTACHED TO MY WELL. WHAT IT
MEANS I HAVE TO DEPEND ON
PROPANE STOVE FOR MY COOKING
WHAT IT MEANS I HAVE TO PURCHASE
CORDS OF WOOD FOR MY HEATING.
BECAUSE WHAT'S FAIR IN THE ROLE
COMMUNITIES IS NOT WHAT THE
URBAN COMMUNITIES HAVE. SO THIS
BILL. I AM MOVING FORWARD
WITHOUT AMENDMENTS SPECIFICALLY
BECAUSE OF FAIRNESS BECAUSE THE
GOLIATH IN THE ENERGY FIELD AND
I'M SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO YOU
P. GINNY. CONTINUE TO RAISE
HAVOC IN OUR BACKYARDS. CONTINUE
TO BURN DOWN OUR HOUSES OUR
FARMLANDS IN OUR BUSINESSES. WE
WANT TO TALK ABOUT FAIRNESS. IN
HIGH RISK FIRE AREAS IT IS US
WHO ARE PAYING THE WILD FIRE
INSURANCE THE FAIR PLAN
INSURANCE WITH THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. SO WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT SUBSIDIES FOR THE
CCA'S AND WE ASK ABOUT FAIR
SHARE ITS BUDGET DUST COMPARED
TO WHAT US THE RULE RESIDENTS
ARE PAYING. TO TAKE CARE OF THE
LAND IN CALIFORNIA THE STATE
PARKS THE FEDERAL PARKS ALL
THOSE BEAUTIFUL PLACES WHERE WE
LEFT TO VISIT. SO WITHOUT BILLS
SUCH AS THIS WHICH REALLY DO
UNDERSCORE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE
ROLE COMMUNITY IN CALIFORNIA
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FALL
VICTIMS OF PG&E. AND I'M NOT
GONNA STAND FOR IT. WE BEAR THE
COST OF ALL THE OUTRAGEOUS FIRE
INSURANCE AND CONTINUE TO BE AT
THE MERCY. OF PG&E AND I WILL
NOT STAND FOR IT. I BELIEVE THAT
IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT CALIFORNIA
MEET THE CLIMATE GOALS.
INCLUDING SB ONE HUNDRED WHICH
REQUIRES A 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY
BY TWENTY FORTY FIVE. AND YES
BIOMASS IS EXPENSIVE BUT WHAT
BIO MASS DOES FOR SENATE
DISTRICT ONE DALLAS DISTRICTS
SENATE DISTRICT TO MAGUIRE'S
DISTRICT SENATE DISTRICT THREE.
US SENATE DISTRICT FOR MY
DISTRICT. IS ENSURE THAT THE
WILDFIRES THAT CONTINUE TO
DEVOUR OUR COMMUNITIES THAT
CONTINUE TO CREATE GRIZZLY FLATS
OF MY NEIGHBORS. THAT WE BRING A
SOLUTION. THIS IS THE REAL
SOLUTION AND I URGE YOU ALL TO
MOVE THIS PAST COMMITTEE IF WE
HAVE TO DO MORE WORK ON THIS WE
WILL LET'S GET IT OUT OF
COMMITTEE. AND LET'S BEAT THIS
GOLIATH THANK YOU AYE URGENT AYE
VOTE. WE HAVE A MOTION.
CONSULTANT RIGHT CYNICAL. SURE
SENATOR WILK I'M SORRY CENTER
WALK NO I MEAN YEAH HE MADE HIS
VERY MAKE DOUBLE CHECK THAT
THANK YOU. DO YOU PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS BRADFORD NO
BRADFORD NO DALLY HASH B. BAKER
. CABALLERO DODD DORADO. EGGMAN
GONZALEZ GROWTH. GROW BY MCGUIRE
MEN. NEWMAN RUBIO SEYARTO
SKINNER. STERN WILK HI WILL
GUIDE. ONE TWO TWO. WHEN THE TWO
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN PERHAPS
MEMBERS AT ALL THANK YOU JEFF
THANK YOU. NEXT UP WHO DO WE
HAVE. TO IN ADDITION NO WE
HAVEN'T.
DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT FILE ITEM
THIRTEEN CENTER MAN SB FIVE TO
SEVEN. YES SIR RIGHT. MAY I
PROCEED SIR. I THANK YOU CARE
BRADFORD COMMITTEE MEMBERS I
WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF
CARE MISTER CHAIR FOR WORKING
WITH MY OFFICE ON THIS MEASURE
AND I WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEES PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
SB FIVE TWENTY SEVEN WOULD
ESTABLISH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
DECARBONISATION PROGRAM I TODAY
BUILDINGS ACCOUNT FOR A QUARTER
OF CALIFORNIA'S EMISSIONS AND
EQUITABLE BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION PROGRAM WAS
ENACTED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET TO
PROVIDE REBATES FOR THE
INSTALLATION OF HIGH EFFICIENCY
APPLIANCES. THIS WAS A STEP IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION BUT WE WILL
NOT MAKE ANY STATE SIGNIFICANT
STRIDES GOING FORWARD BY REDUCE
IN REDUCING BUILDING EMISSIONS
BY REPLACING JUST ONE WATER
HEATER AC UNIT AT A TIME BY
TAKING A COMMUNITY BASED
APPROACH TO DECARBONISATION
CALIFORNIA CAN GET CLOSER TO ITS
GOAL OF REDUCING EMISSIONS IN
BUILDINGS WHILE EXPLORING
EXPLORING BROADER USE OF
TECHNOLOGIES SUCH AS HIGH
EFFICIENCY HEAT PUMPS AND
GEOTHERMAL ENERGY NETWORKS. SB
FIVE TWENTY SEVEN WOULD DO JUST
THAT TAKE A COMMUNITY BASED
APPROACH TO DECARBONISATION
WHETHER THAT BE A SCHOOL A
HOSPITAL OR NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK-
IN TARGETED AREAS UTILITY
CUSTOMERS WOULD BE PROVIDED WITH
FREE HIGH EFFICIENCY UPGRADES TO
THEIR CLIENTS IS. WITH A FOCUS
ON EQUITY AND GIVING PREFERENCE
TO LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES WHO
OFTEN DO NOT HAVE THE FINANCES
TO UPGRADE THEIR APPLIANCES
OUTSIDE OF EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.
THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE LIMITED TO
COST EFFECTIVE PROJECTS WHERE
THE COSTA DECARBONISING AREAS
LESSEN THE COST OF REPLACING
EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS
WOULD APPROACH WOULD ENSURE RATE
STABILITY FOR CUSTOMERS AND DOES
NOT CREATE A NEED FOR NEW BUDGET
ALLOCATIONS. ADDITIONALLY IT
WOULD REDUCE EMISSIONS IMPROVE
INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AIR QUALITY
AND PROVIDE NECESSARY UPGRADES
TO OUR AGING ENERGY
INFRASTRUCTURE. MY OFFICE HAS
BEEN WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS
INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS
LABOR AND UTILITIES TO FIGURE
OUT HOW THIS PROGRAM CAN BE
EQUITABLE FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
WORK WITH THE CHAIR AND STAFF AS
THIS BILL MOVES FORWARD. HERE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
MAYBE- BUT MAYBE NOT PANAMA
BARTHELEMY. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF THE BUILDING DECARBONIZATION
CO COALITION. AND CIARA ARE REAL
ALL ARELLANO HIGH ROAD
INITIATIVES MANAGER WITH THE
RISING SUN CENTER FOR.
OPPORTUNITY BUT MAYBE THEY'RE
NOT HERE BECAUSE- WE JUMP THE
GUN MAYBE THEY ARE HERE OKAY
HERE WE ARE. SO WHO DO YOU HAVE
TWO PRIMARY RIGHT NEAR PANAMA
BARTHELEMY AND CIARA R. M. ALL
REAL. ARIANNA YOU EACH HAVE TWO
MINUTES PLEASE THANK YOU YOU MAY
BEGIN. GOVERNMENT'S CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND
COMMITTEE STAFF THANK YOU FOR
HAVING MY NAME'S PANAMA BIRTH
ALL ME I'M THE- EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION COALITION AND-
SB FIVE TWENTY SEVEN SPONSOR WE
ARE A ASSOCIATION OF
MANUFACTURERS UTILITIES.
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND
ENVIRONMENTAL NONPROFITS ALL
WORKING TOGETHER TO ELIMINATE
POLLUTION. FROM BUILDINGS AS THE
SENATOR SAID IN HIS REMARKS
CALIFORNIA IS ALREADY TAKEN SOME
SIGNIFICANT STEPS WORKING ON
ELIMINATING POLLUTION FROM
BUILDINGS IN THIS BEING
EMULATED. AROUND THE COUNTRY
BECAUSE OF THAT LEADERSHIP.
HOWEVER WE'RE GONNA GET THE FULL
ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS
OF THIS TECHNOLOGY WE NEED TO BE
DEPLOYING THEM IN A MUCH LARGER
SCALE. THAN BUILDING BY BUILDING
. LOS EFFECTIVELY RETROFITTING
NEIGHBORHOODS AT A LARGER SCALE
INSTEAD OF THE ONE OFF APPROACH
THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. IS GOING
TO BE CRUCIAL FOR OUR CLEAN AIR
AND OUR WORKFORCE TRANSITION
GOALS. SB FIVE TWENTY SEVEN WILL
SET UP A PURPOSELY NARROW. PILOT
PROGRAM OF THE CPUC THE WILL
ALLOW UTILITIES AND COMMUNITIES
TO INITIATE FULLY FUNDED
NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE PROJECTS. THE
WILL SAVE RATEPAYERS MONEY
UTILIZE STRONG LABOR AGREEMENTS
WITH THE SKILLED AND TRAINED
WORKFORCE AND PRIORITIZE LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES. TO HELP THEM
AVOID TRANSITION COSTS. I'D LIKE
TO THANK SENATOR MAN FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP AND AUTHORIZING THIS
BILL IN AUTHORING THIS BILL. AND
ALSO LIKE TO THANK CHAIRMAN
BRADFORD IN THE COMMITTEE STUFF
FOR THEIR WORK WITH CENTER MATT
ON THIS LEGISLATION. I'M HAPPY
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE
COMMITTEE MAY HAVE. THANK YOU
THERE TO WITNESS. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR BRADFORD AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS TARA
ARIANO AND I'M THE HYBRID
INITIATIVES MANAGER AT RISING
SUN CENTER FOR OPPORTUNITY A
PROUD SUPPORTER OF SB FIVE
TWENTY SEVEN. RISING SUN IS A
NONPROFIT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
ORGANIZATION SERVING THE GREATER
BAY AREA AND SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY.
I RISING SUN WE WORK DAILY WITH
INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING THE
MOST SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS OF
CLIMATE CHANGE. LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. THESE
COMMUNITIES ARE HIT FIRST AND
WORST BY CLIMATE CHANGE FACE A
DISPROPORTIONATE ENERGY COST
BURDEN. AND ARE OFTEN OVERLOOKED
BY ARE UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN
CALIFORNIA'S ENERGY PROGRAMS.
THEY MAY ALSO BE EXCLUDED FROM
OUR FACE BARRIERS TO CAREER
OPPORTUNITIES. THAT OFFER TRUE
ECONOMIC MOBILITY OR HAVE BEEN
DISAPPOINTED BY GREEN JOBS.
THEY'RE NOT DELIVERED ON THE
UNIVERSAL NEED FOR GOOD WAGES
AND BENEFITS. SB FIVE TWENTY
SEVEN ADDRESSES THESE CHALLENGES
HEAD ON AND IN TANDEM. SHOWING
THAT A DECARBONISATION
TRANSITION WHEN INTENTIONALLY
DESIGNED CAN BE A CATALYST FOR
ECONOMIC MOBILITY. IT
PRIORITIZES UNDERINVESTED
COMMUNITIES THREATENED BY
EXTREME HEAT AND POOR AIR
QUALITY. PROVIDING RESIDENTS
WITH ZERO EMISSION APPLIANCES
AND RETROFITTING THEIR HOMES
WITHOUT REPAIR IMPACTS. FINALLY
BECAUSE BUILDING THE CARBON
BECAUSE DECARBONISING BUILDINGS
AT A NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE GROUPS
MANY PROJECTS TOGETHER WITH A
LONG PLANNING HORIZONS IT ALLOWS
FOR GREATER UTILIZATION OF
SKILLED AND TRAINED LABOR. IS
PAID A GOOD WAGE HELPING TO
ENSURE THE BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION DELIVERS
ECONOMIC AS WELL AS
ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS. RISING
SUN HAS BEEN LEADING A HYBRID
TRAINING PARTNERSHIP
SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON
IMPROVING JOB QUALITY IN THE
RESIDENTIAL DECARBONIZATION
INDUSTRY. SB FIVE TWENTY SEVEN
PRESENTS PRECISELY THE TYPE OF
SOLUTION THAT RISING SIGN IN OUR
COMMUNITY LABOR AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT PARTNERS HAVE
ENVISIONED THROUGH OUR
COLLABORATION AND RESEARCH. WE
THANK SENATOR MEN FOR PUTTING
FOR THIS POLICY THAT ALLOWS THE
MOST AFFECTED INDIVIDUALS TO
DECARBONISE WITHOUT SHOULDERING
ANY BURDENSOME COSTS. I
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST- I VOTE.
THANK YOU DO SO WHEN THIS ISN'T
SUPPORT STATE YOUR NAME. AND
ORGANIZATION PLEASE. STRUCTURE
MEMBERS THE VEHICLE THEIR NATIVE
. FOR SILICA VALLEY ENERGY
SUPPORT THANK YOU. A TO A-
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS ENTRY ENTRY
WOULD SHOW YOUR AUNT WE
SCHMELZER AND LAYING HERE TODAY
ON BEHALF OF ADVANCED ENERGY
UNITED AND SUPPORT WE THINK THE
AUTHOR THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT
THIS. HI MY NAME IS MIKE SNYDER
OF REWIRING AMERICAN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. MAKING SURE MY
RETIRED NURSE CANNELLA OF
CALIFORNIA. IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
. ANY HARGROVE ON BEHALF OF THE
BAY AREA AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
AMMAR AKER VOICING SUPPORT FROM
THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL THANK YOU. YOU LILLIAN
MARVIS WITH MC E. HERE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU IN
ADDITION WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF
THIS MEASURE. SCENE NINE NOW
ALMOST OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION- WE HAVE TO WE HAVE
TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES. LEAST ONE
ARE YOU THE PRIMARY JUST ME OKAY
WELL YOU HAVE TO MEANT THANK YOU
AND I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. SO
THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON JOHN
KENNEDY WITH RC RC WE HAVE FORTY
EIGHT WORLD MEMBER COUNTY SO THE
STATE'S FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES. WE
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S
OBJECTIVE TO BALANCE COST OF GAS
LINE REPLACEMENTS ESPECIALLY AT
THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIVES WE
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS THAT REALLY SICK TO
ENSURE THAT CUSTOMERS HAVE SOME
SORT OF SAY IN THIS PROCESS
BECAUSE WE HAD TO. REALLY
FOUNDATIONAL CONCERNS WITH THE
BILL- ONE IS THE LACK OF ANY
SORT OF AGREEMENT BY LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS WHOSE RESIDENTS WILL
BE IMPACTED BY THESE CHANGES.
AND TO IS THE COST IMPACT ON
THOSE RESIDENTS GOING FORWARD.
OUR RESIDENTS WILL REALLY BE
LEFT HOLDING THE BAG- AND A
GIANT BILL IF THEY WANT TO
CONTINUE TO RECEIVE HEATING AND
HOT WATER- THEY WILL HAVE NO
CHOICE ONCE THE GAS LINE IS THE
COMMISSION AND SO UNLESS THEY
CAN COME UP WITH A TEN TO TWENTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS PLUS. THAT IT
MAY TAKE TO DO THE REPLACEMENT
APPLIANCES AND ALSO TO REWIRE
THEIR HOUSES- THEY'RE GONNA BE
OUT OF LUCK AND SO THAT'S WHY WE
HAVE SOME MAJOR CONCERNS WITH
THE BILL WE'VE WORKED WITH THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE WITH THE
SPONSORS I HAD A COUPLE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. HOPE
THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE
THESE DISCUSSIONS GOING FORWARD.
THE BILL JUST ISN'T IN A PLACE
WHERE WE CAN SUPPORT IT TODAY
AND SO MUST OPPOSE IT UNTIL
THESE IMPACTS ON CUSTOMERS. ARE
REALLY ADDRESSED THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. SHE
NINE MODERATE LET'S GO TO OUR
PHONE LINE FOR WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. AND OR OPPOSITION. TO
THE SP FIVE TO SEVEN. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
OF SB FIVE TO SEVEN. PLEASE
PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL GO TO LINE TWO FORTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH I'M I'M
FROM THE SLOW COMET COLLISION
HAULING IN SUPPORT SB FIVE TO
SEVEN. THANK YOU. ANGEL SMITH
SHARE WITH GOVERNMENT NEXT ONE
NUMBER. OGLING TWO OH SIX PLEASE
GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS.
EMMANUEL I'M CALLING ON BEHALF
CALIFORNIA INCREMENTAL VOTERS IN
SUPPORT OF AT FIVE TWENTY SEVEN
. I AM SURE WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE
IN QUEUE AT THIS TIME PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AS IT
RELATES TO SB FIVE TO SEVEN.
UNDERGROWTH THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR BRIEFLY- YOU KNOW AGAIN
YOU LIVE IN ORANGE COUNTY I LIVE
IN KERN COUNTY WE ARE RULE- GAS
LINES WE HAVE RULE HOUSING- YOU
KNOW MY HUSBAND I OURSELVES WHIM
FIFTEEN ACRES. AND WE RELY ON
THOSE GAS LINES AND PROPANE
TANKS TO BRING US THEM. YOU KNOW
THE UTILITIES THAT WE HAVE AND-
I THINK THAT AGAIN THIS BILL- I
CAN'T SUPPORT BECAUSE IT
DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS MY
DISTRICT AND SO I WE SHOULD-
CONSIDER LOOKING AT RURAL AREAS-
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN
CALIFORNIA DO YOU LIVE IN RURAL
AREAS NOT AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS I
KNOW THE L. A. DELEGATION IS.
PRETTY POWERFUL ORANGE COUNTY
DELEGATION THE SAME WAY BUT AND
THIS BILL DOES
DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT OUR
DISTRICT WITH COST AND COST TO
REWIRE THEIR HOMES AND COST TO
PROVIDE OR LIMITED THE GAS LINES
AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING.
THOSE ELECTRICAL LINES INTO OUR
AND HOMES ESPECIALLY HANKY
CONNECTED BE SELF. THANK YOU.
THAT THANK YOU. FOR STERN- THANK
CHAIR THANK YOU SENATOR FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD I I'VE
WORKED ON. THIS ISSUE- FOR
NUMBER YEARS HERE AND I
APPRECIATE THAT MATURITY NOW
THIS COALITION- SHOWING SUCH
DIVERSITY ACROSS THE STATE AND
BETWEEN LABOR MANUFACTURING-
ENVIRONMENT ETCETERA- I GUESS
MIGHT MIGHT. CONCERN I'LL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL BUT LOOKING
THROUGH THESE AMENDMENTS I DID
WANT TO ASK THE AUTHOR OR
POTENTIALLY THIS THE SPONSORS-
THE LIMITATION ON THIS PROGRAM
SO IN OTHER WORDS THAT THE
SUNSET THE TWENTY THIRTY SEVEN
SAID. DO I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE
THAT. THIS FIFTEEN PROJECT
AUTHORIZATION. IS ALL THEN THAT.
WILL BE ALLOWED BETWEEN NOW AND
TWENTY THIRTY OTHER WORDS IF
PROJECTS ARE GETTING GOING
FASTER AND ANY FEE AND AT THE
CENTER P. JEANNIE OR WHATEVER
TERRITORY. THEY THEY SAW MORE
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT COULD BE
ELIGIBLE OR WE'RE SORT OF
OPPORTUNISTIC THEN. IF YOU TO
HIT THAT FIFTEEN PROJECT CAP YOU
YOU IN THEORY COULDN'T KEEP
GOING EVEN IF IT WAS COST
EFFECTIVE TO DO SO. I'M AT. SO
AS FAR AS A NEIGHBORHOOD
DECARBONIZATION I THAT IS IT
UNDER THIS BILL WERE TO BE
SIGNED INTO LAW MY UNDERSTAND
ALL OF THE SPONSORS. ANSWER THIS
AS WELL BOB IT IS LIMITED 215%
THERE CAN BE NO MORE THAN 1% OF
THE STATE'S ENERGY SUPPLIES MY
UNDERSTANDING- AND THAT ALSO
REQUIRES A TWO THIRDS VOTE BY
THE COMMUNITY THE NEIGHBORHOOD
THIS AFFECTED SO- IF ANY
PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD
WANTED TO OPT INTO THE PROGRAM
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WOULD
BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT THEY COULD
GO BEYOND FIFTEEN BUT AS FAR AS
NEIGHBORHOOD DECARBONISATION
THAT IS A BLOCK. I NEIGHBORHOOD-
YOU KNOW A SCHOOL OR OR WHATNOT-
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CAPPED AT
FIFTEEN AND THAT WAS UNDER THE
AMENDMENTS WE TOOK. OKAY I
SHOULD ALSO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS
PROGRAM- ALL THE UP FRONT COSTS
AND- AS THE PLAINTIFFS THE
REWIRING I BELIEVE ARE BORNE BY
THE UTILITIES BUT I'LL ALLOW. MY
MISTER CHAIR SKIN CLARIFICATION.
YEAH THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION
SENATOR- WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH
THE AMENDMENTS FROM THE CHAIR ON
THE COMMITTEE- IT DOES LIMIT TO
FIFTEEN. COMMUNITIES PILOT
PROJECTS STATEWIDE THIS IS
INTENDED TO BE A PILOT PROGRAM
TO REALLY TRY THIS TECHNIQUE OUT
AND AFTER THAT- THE LEGISLATURE
MAY WANT TO CONSIDER OTHER
OPTIONS MOVING FORWARD. BUT IF
THE IF PROJECTS GAIN TRACTION
AND THERE ARE LARGER SCALE SAY
BLOCK BY BLOCK OR REGION BY
REGION EVEN LARGER. NEIGHBORHOOD
D. KERR BEDFORD'S. THOSE CAN.
BUT THEY JUST WOULDN'T BE ABLE
TO BE ON THE RATE BASE AND THEY
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SORT OF- AT
LOSE THAT OBLIGATION TO SERVE IN
OTHER WORDS LIKE. THERE ARE
OTHER TYPES OF DEEP CAR PROJECTS
THAT COULD PROCEED OTHER THAN
HOUSE BY HOUSE. REGARDLESS OF
THIS BILL THIS WOULDN'T SORT OF
OBVIATE THOSE ABILITIES IT'S
THIS KIND OF DESIGN OKAY. ALL
RIGHT OUT OF THIS PROGRAM
APPRECIATE THANK YOU MISTER-
HAVING MOVED MOVED. THANK YOU.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS. I WE
HAVE TO DO GO FOLLOWING TERRY.
I'M TRYING LOSING TRACK OF ALL
THE- ALL RIGHT- WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
AYE VOTE. SHOW ARE WE HAVE A DO
PASSES A MINUTE YOU HAVE TAKEN
ALL THE COMMITTEE AT MEMINTA
CORRECT CENTER MAN. YES SIR- ARE
WE HAVE DO PASSED TO
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
BRADFORD AYE BRADFORD AYE DALY
ASHBY BECKER. CABALLERO DODD.
DODD AYE DORADO. EGGMAN EGGMAN
AYE GONZALEZ GROWTH. GROVE NO
MCGUIRE MEN. MEN AYE NEWMAN.
NEWMAN AYE RUBIO SEYARTO SKINNER
STERN AYE STERN AYE WILK GO LOOK
NOW.
SO. I'M SORRY SKIPPED OVER
CENTER GROVE SO WE'RE GONNA GO
BACK TO FOLLOWING M. SIX S. B.
FIFTEEN AND ALLOW HER TO PRESENT
HER MEASURE AT THE START. SIXTY
TO. SIXTY TWO ABOUT. FOR R.
SIXTY THREE OR SIXTY TWO IT'S
EXACTLY WE HAVE A SIX TO VOTE ON
ON- FILE ITEM THIRTEEN MEN SB
FIVE TO SEVEN WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS SAT
ON. I DO. SENATE GROW WHEN
YOU'RE READY YOU MAY BEGIN.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AT A IN
MEMBERS BEFORE I BEGIN I'D LIKE
TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED COMMITTEE
AMENDMENT DELETING THE PHRASE OF
HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS IN
THE BILL AND JUST KEEPING IT AT
THE STATE DEPARTMENT AS A SOURCE
OF COUNTRIES WITH HUMAN RIGHTS
ABUSES. BECAUSE EACH YEAR
CALIFORNIANS CONSUME ABOUT ONE
POINT EIGHT MILLION BARRELS OF
OIL EVERY DAY THAT'S ROUGHLY
FIVE HUNDRED TWENTY TWO MILLION
BARRELS EACH YEAR BUT ONLY A
HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE MILLION OR
25% IS PRODUCED HERE IN THIS IS
STATED CALIFORNIA BY CALIFORNIAN
WORKERS. FOR CALIFORNIA
CONSUMERS THE REST OF THE OILS
IMPORTED MOSTLY FROM FOREIGN
COUNTRIES AND TRANSPORTED HERE
AND HUGE TANKER SHIPS THE AMOUNT
CALIFORNIANS BEEN ON IMPORTED
OIL IS ENORMOUS IF OIL IS PRICED
AT A HUNDRED DOLLARS A BARREL
CALIFORNIANS CAN PAY ABOUT FIFTY
BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO IMPORT
OIL. THAT THEY NEED AND USE
EVERY SINGLE DAY AND COLLEAGUES
SUCH AS THE ROCK COST IT DOESN'T
COST IT DOESN'T CALCULATE IN THE
TRANSPORTATION FROM PORT OF
ORIGIN TO PORT A PORT OF
DESTINATION OR THE REFINING
COST. TRULY THE STATE'S M.
CURRENT ENERGY POLICY DOESN'T
MAKE ANY SENSE WHEN THE SUPPLY
IS NEEDED BUT WE'RE USING
FOREIGN COUNTRIES TO PRODUCE
THAT SUPPLY FOR US. WITH FOREIGN
OIL IMPORTS AND WE PLACE
CALIFORNIA'S ENERGY SECURITY IN
THE HANDS OF COUNTRIES THAT ARE
ACTIVELY HOSTILE TO CALIFORNIA'S
VALUES WHEN IT COMES TO HUMAN
RIGHTS LABOR RIGHTS. OR
ENVIRONMENTAL RIGHTS. THE TOP
FIVE COUNTRIES THAT DO BUSINESS
ON THAT WE DO BUSINESS WITH
ACCOUNT FOR TWO THIRDS OF THE
FOREIGN OIL WE IMPORT. WHICH IS
LIKE I SAID ABOUT FOREIGNERS
FIVE THOUSAND BARRELS EVERY
SINGLE DAY. OR HUNDRED FORTY
EIGHT MILLION BARRELS A YEAR
THESE COUNTRIES ARE ECUADOR
SAUDI ARABIA IRAQ BRAZIL AND IN
COLOMBIA WITH BRAZIL ECUADOR AND
COLOMBIA. M. OVER THE- THE
RAINFOREST. CURRENTLY
CALIFORNIA'S NUMBER ONE SOURCE
OF FOREIGN CRUDE OIL IS ECUADOR
WHICH HAS BEEN STRONGLY
CRITICIZED BY ENVIRONMENTAL AND
INDIGENOUS GROUPS. FOR ITS
PRACTICE TO CLEAR CUTTING AND
BULLDOZING DOWN THE RAINFOREST
AND THE AMAZON RAINFOREST FOUR
OF THE TOP SIX COUNTRIES THAT WE
IMPORT OIL FARMER ACTIVELY
DESTROYING. THE MOST BIO DIVERSE
ECOSYSTEM ON THE PLANET TO SEND
THEIR OIL HERE TO CALIFORNIANS
BECAUSE WE DESPERATELY NEEDED
EVERY DAY. THEY DON'T TO THE
STRICT ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY
PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. WHEN STATE THIS
STATE CALIFORNIA IMPORTS HALF OF
ITS CRUDE OIL THAT'S PRODUCED IN
ECUADOR THAT MEANS 53% OF OIL
PRODUCED IN ECUADOR COMES HERE
TO THE STATE. CALIFORNIA'S
DECISION TO IMPORT RATHER THAN
PRODUCE SOIL HERE MEANS THAT
WERE FINANCING MORE THAN JUST
THE DESTRUCTION OF THE AMAZON
RAINFOREST. IN JUDAS P.
INDIGENOUS PEOPLES IN THE SOUTH
AMERICA ARE ROUTINELY EVERY TEAM
THE DISPLACED BY THEIR LAND IT'S
CONTAMINATED AND THE LEADERS ARE
THREATENED OR EVEN KILLED. LIKE
I SAID WE DON'T HAVE THAT
PROBLEM HERE IN CALIFORNIA
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE
OVERSEE THE PROCESS. JUST THIS
LAST FEBRUARY AN INDIGENOUS
LEADER IN ECUADOR WAS MURDERED
THE KILLING IS BELIEVED TO BE
LINKED TO THE COMMUNITIES FIGHT
AGAINST TO BLOCK ECUADOR STATE
OWNED OIL COMPANIES FROM
EXPANDING ITS OIL DRILLING IN
THE REGION'S TO EXPORT MORE OIL
TO CALIFORNIA. AGAIN THE MONEY
THAT WE'RE SENDING TO THESE
GOVERNMENTS DIRECTLY FINANCES
THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY. SAUDI
ARABIA AND IRAQ ARE ANNUALLY
HIGHLIGHTED BY U. S. STATE
DEPARTMENT FOR THE DEPLORABLE
HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS IN THESE
TWO COUNTRIES. WE IMPORT FORTY
NINE MILLION BARRELS OF OIL
EVERY YEAR FROM SAUDI ARABIA
COLLEAGUES THIS IS A COUNTRY
COUNTRY WE'RE BEING PART OF THE
LGBT COMMUNITY IS PUNISHABLE BY
DEATH. AND WE IMPORT AND PAY FOR
FORTY NINE MILLION BARRELS OF
OIL EVERY YEAR FROM THEM WOMEN
CANNOT DRIVE IN THIS COUNTRY AND
THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE.
AND TORTURE IS USED AS A
PUNISHMENT OF CRIMES. ALL OF
THIS IMPORTANT OIL BROUGHT TO
CALIFORNIA BY SIX HUNDRED TANKER
SHIPS A YEAR. THE TANKER SPEW
MILLIONS OF POUNDS OF CARBON
INTO THE ATMOSPHERE EVERY YEAR
WITH BUNKER FUEL THEY CONSUME.
AND THE POWER THAT THEY NEED TO
OFFLOAD THIS OIL. WHAT'S
INTERESTING ABOUT THIS IS THAT
WHEN WE ASK HARPER THE
INFORMATION WE COULDN'T BELIEVE
THAT THE S. THE- OUTPUT OF
CARBON EMISSIONS WAS SO LOW BUT
WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS. IS THAT
KARPUS NOT CALCULATING IN THE
CALCULATION IS NOT BEING
CALCULATED FROM POINT A
DESTINATION. OR POINT OF ORIGIN
TO POINT OF DESTINATION IT'S
ONLY CALCULATED ON THE TWELVE
MILE COASTLINE OF CALIFORNIA
INTO. THE CALIFORNIA PORTS SO
ALL OF THE EMISSIONS THAT ARE
SPEWED ACROSS THE ECOSYSTEM WHEN
YOU LOOK AT ITS POINT OF ORIGIN
ARE NOT COUNTED TOWARD THE
EMISSIONS. AND THE MISSION
OUTPUT. I UNDERSTAND M. AND WE
LEARN THAT AGAIN FROM VESSEL
FINDER IF YOU FOLLOW THE SHIP
SHE THEY'LL CIRCLE OUTSIDE OR
TWELVE MILE RADIUS UNTIL THEY
CAN COME INTO THE PORT. AND IT'S
INTERESTING THAT THEY BRING
THOSE OIL TANKERS INTO THE PORT
WHEN THE PRICE INCREASES AND
THEY'RE ABLE TO OFFLOAD THEIR
OIL FOR A HIGHER PRICE. I
UNDERSTAND THAT MANY OF MY
COLLEAGUES SEE THE ENERGY FUTURE
WAY DIFFERENT THAN I DO. BUT
TODAY AND FOR THE CITY
FORESEEABLE FUTURE CALIFORNIANS
ARE STILL CONSUMING ONE POINT
EIGHT MILLION OF BARRELS OF OIL
EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT WE
DESPERATELY NEED. THAT'S NOT
BECAUSE IT'S USE JUST FOR GAS IN
CALIFORNIA TO PUT IN OUR CARS.
BUT MORE THAN SIX THOUSAND
PRODUCTS ARE MADE FROM PETROLEUM
SUCH ISSUES PHONES. TOOTHBRUSHES
EYEGLASSES HEART VALVES AND
DISPOSABLE BY DIAPERS. AND MOST
PLASTIC PRODUCTS HAVE A
PETROLEUM BYPRODUCT. MEMBERS IT
TAKES THIRTY FIVE GALLONS OF OIL
TO MAKE THE TIRES FOR TESLA. AND
EVEN MORE TO MAKE THE PLASTICS
AND THE WIRE INSULATION AND
OTHER PARTS THAT REQUIRE OIL.
MUCH OF THE OIL WE IMPORT COULD
BE REPLACED BY CALIFORNIA IN
STATE PRODUCERS PROVIDING
CALIFORNIA JOBS IF WE WERE
ALLOWED TO EXPAND OIL
PRODUCTION. AND I KNOW THAT
SOMETHING THAT SEEMS SO EVIL
HERE. THE CALIFORNIANS CONSUME
THE SOIL WE SHOULD PRODUCE IT IT
HERE. UNDER THE POLICIES AND THE
ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY
PROCESSES THAT WE IMPOSE ON
THESE COMPANIES. MUCH OF THE OIL
IS- MUCH OF THE OIL THAT WE HAVE
HERE OUR PRODUCERS THAT WE
PRODUCE HERE WE OPERATE UNDER
THE MOST STRINGENT AND STRICTEST
ENVIRONMENTAL AND REGULATORY
RULES IN THE WORLD. THE MOST
DEVASTATING VIRAL IN A IMPACTS
TO HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS
MENTIONS PREVIOUSLY IN MY
CONVERSATION OR MY PRESENTATION
DOES NOT HAPPEN HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. OIL IN KERN COUNTY
IN THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT
IS EXTRACTED FROM WHAT'S
ESSENTIALLY A DESERT THERE'S NO
AMAZON RAIN FOREST TO DESTROY
AND THE JOBS CREATED IN THE
INDUSTRY. AVERAGE ABOUT A
HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE
THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR WHERE WE
IN PLAY 55% PEOPLE OF COLOR. 22%
SECOND CHANCE SERVICE WOMEN AND
VETERANS. SB FIFTEEN WOULD
SIMPLY IMPLORE THE LEGISLATURE
TO PROHIBIT THE IMPORT OF CRUDE
OIL TO CALIFORNIA IF THE SOURCE
OF OIL IS A FOREIGN NATION WITH
DEMONSTRATED HUMAN RIGHTS
ABUSES. LIKE SAUDI ARABIA WHICH
AND IMPRISONS BEATS AND HANGS
THE LGBT COMMUNITY AND WHICH
DOES NOT EVEN ALLOW WOMEN TO
DRIVE OR A FOREIGN NATION WITH
ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS THAT ARE
LOWER THAN THOSE THAT WE REQUIRE
ON OUR OIL PRODUCERS. HERE IN
CALIFORNIA THE MEASURE WOULD
ALSO REQUIRE THE AIR RESOURCES
BOARD TO REPORT ON ITS WEBSITE
THE AMOUNT OF PARTICULAR MATTER
CARBON RELEASED INTO THE AIR
FROM TANKER SHIP EMISSIONS. IN
AN EFFORT TO HIGHLIGHT THE AIR
QUALITY IMPACTS FROM THIS STATE
TO DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL
FROM POINT OF ORIGIN TO POINT OF
DESTINATION. LET ME SHOW YOU
SOME QUICK EXAMPLES OF WHAT-
THIS BILL WOULD ADDRESS. I HAVE
A COUPLE OF PICTURES HERE TO GET
THEM OUT. APOLOGIZE TO THE LADY
MISADVENTURE THAT'S RIGHT THANK
YOU. HI I DON'T. THESE ARE
INDIGENOUS TRIBES SO THESE ARE
AT THIS IS AN INDIGENOUS TRIBE
THEY HAVE CONFLICT IN AT ECUADOR
THEY'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO GET
THE GOVERNMENT TO STOP PRODUCING
OIL THERE. BUT BECAUSE
CALIFORNIA PRODUCES FIFTY OR
SKEWS ME CONSUMES 53% OF
ECUADOR'S OIL THEY CAN'T STOP
DROOLING THERE. WE DON'T HAVE
THIS ISSUE IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. THIS IS AN OIL SPILL
IN THE AMAZON RAINFOREST NOW
WE'VE HAD OIL LEAKAGES AND
SPILLS IN KERN COUNTY. CLEAN THE
MET OUR OIL SPILLS DON'T LOOK
LIKE THIS AND IT DEFINITELY
DOESN'T INVADE PEOPLE'S HOMES
AND PROPERTIES. JUST ANOTHER OIL
FILL THIS ONE IS IN COLOMBIA
IT'S INVADED A RIVER WE DON'T
HAVE RIVER BET WE DON'T HAVE
RIVERS IN THE CENTER AND WE TOOK
IN THE FARMLANDS WE DO BUT- WE
DON'T HAVE RIVERS IN THE OIL
FIELDS THEIR DESERT COMMUNITIES
WE DON'T HAVE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS
OF WELLS IN THE SAME LOCATION ON
THE SAME WATER AQUIFER'S AND
IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HOW
IT'S PRODUCED IN FOREIGN
COUNTRIES. THIS IS BASICALLY A
KERN COUNTY OIL FIELDS YOU
HAVEN'T GONE TO KERN COUNTY
THERE'S NO THERE'S NO RIVERS
THERE'S NO AMAZON RAINFOREST
THEY OPERATE RIGHT NEXT TO
FARMLANDS. AND THEY'RE ALL
WITHIN THE SAME DISTANCE OF THE
SAME AQUIFER MOST OF THEM IN
CERTAIN. MOST OIL WELLS ARE ON
THE SAME AQUIFER THAT OPERATE
WITHIN THE SAME AREA. IT'S A
DIFFERENT PROCESS THAT WE USE
HERE AND I'M JUST ASKING YOU
GUYS TO RECOGNIZE THE SAFE AND
MOST ENVIRONMENTAL STRICTEST
PROCESS THAT WE HAVE. IN THE
WORLD THE PRODUCES THE OIL THAT
WE NEED EVERY DAY. WITH ME TO
HAVE TESTIFIED IN FAVOR OF THIS
BILL IS MIKE AMBROSE WHO'S GOING
TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS
EXPERTISE IN THIS INDUSTRY. YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES TO PUSH. THANK
YOU MY CUMBER PREMIER RESOURCE
MANAGEMENT LIFELONG SAN DIEGO
RESIDENT- FRESH DATA FROM THE
CDC IN TWENTY TWENTY TO IRAQ WAS
CALIFORNIA'S LARGEST SOURCE OF
FOREIGN OIL SUPPLYING OVER SIXTY
EIGHT MILLION BARRELS TO OUR
STATE. IRAQ'S OIL REVENUE FROM
CALIFORNIA EXCEEDED SIX POINT
EIGHT BILLION DOLLARS SB FIFTEEN
IS THE FIRST OF MANY NECESSARY
STEPS TO ENSURE A LEVEL PLAYING
FIELD. FOR CALIFORNIA'S
INELASTIC OIL MARKET IT'S TIME
WE HOLD OPEC ACCOUNTABLE. IN
OCTOBER TWENTY ONE GOVERNOR
NEWSOM DECLARED A STATE OF
EMERGENCY AFTER TWENTY FIVE
THOUSAND GALLONS OF CRUDE. OIL
LEAKED INTO THE WATERS OF ORANGE
COUNTY THE OIL WAS PROPERLY
CLEANED UP AND CARGO SHIPS
RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS BILL PAID
IN NINETY SEVEN MILLION DOLLAR
SETTLEMENT. THAT SAME YEAR IRAQ
FLARED SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY
BILLION CUBIC FEET OF NATURAL
GAS SECOND IN THE WORLD ONLY TO
RUSSIA FIVE TIMES CALIFORNIA'S
ANNUAL GAS PRODUCTION. RELATIVE
TO CO TWO METHANE IS EIGHTY
TIMES MORE EFFECTIVE AT TRAPPING
HEAT IN THE ATMOSPHERE THIS
WASTEFUL FLARING EQUATES TO.
TWELVE MILLION GALLONS OF OIL
ENERGY EQUIVALENT PER DAY
LEAKING INTO OUR ATMOSPHERE THE
PEOPLE OF IRAQ INHALE THE
EQUIVALENT OF FOUR HUNDRED AND
EIGHTY ORANGE COUNTY OIL SPILLS.
EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE NEED SB
FIFTEEN IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO
IRAQI ENVIRONMENTAL MINISTER HAS
SEEM AWFUL LOT HE ACKNOWLEDGED
THAT AIR POLLUTION FROM THIS
RAMPANT FLARING IS THE MAIN
REASON FOR INCREASES IN LOCAL
CANCER RATES WHICH ARE UP OVER
20% SINCE TWENTY FIFTEEN WHERE
VILLAGES ARE POLLUTED WITH
BENZENE CO TWO METHANE AND
BLACKS. THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ OR
DYING FROM LEUKEMIA AND OTHER
CANCERS LINKED TO ON MITIGATING
FLARING LESS THAN EIGHT HUNDRED
FEET FROM THEIR FRONT DOORS
CALIFORNIA BANNED THE WASTEFUL
FLARING OF NATURAL GAS IN
NINETEEN THIRTY NINE. AND
RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED THIRTY TWO
HUNDRED FOOT SETBACKS WE NEED SB
FIFTEEN TO DOCUMENT THESE IRAQI
OIL OIL FIELDS LABELED MODERN
SACRIFICE ZONES BY THE UNITED
NATIONS. VOTING NO ON SB FIFTEEN
GRANTS TACIT APPROVAL TO THE
ONGOING IMPORT OF THESE BARRELS
WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A WARNING
LABEL WE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE OF
IRAQ AN UNSUSPECTING CONSUMERS A
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU. THERE TO
WITNESS TO ISSUE NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION. SEAN WALLENSTEIN
FROM THE CALIFORNIA INDEPENDENT
PETROLEUM ASSOCIATION
REPRESENTING THREE HUNDRED AND
FIFTY. INDEPENDENT OIL AND
NATURAL GAS PRODUCERS SERVICE
AND SUPPLY COMPANIES AND MINERAL
RIGHTS OWNERS- IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF THE BILL AND WE'RE PROUD TO
DO THE WORK AND THINGS LIKE
CALIFORNIA WITH THE CRUDE YOU
NEED. THANK YOU. MISTER MEMBERS
PAUL YOUR ME HAVE THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND KERN AND FRESNO
COUNTIES IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
THANK YOU THANK YOU ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. OF SB
FIFTEEN HERE IN CHINO AND NOW
WE'LL GO TO OPPOSITION. ANY
WITNESSES HERE IN OPPOSITION.
SHE NINE MODERATE LET'S GO TO
OUR PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION OF SB
FIFTEEN. THANK THIS YEAR AND IF
YOU WOULD SUSPECT SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF. BILL
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND YOUR AT
THIS TIME. YES I DIDN'T. UNITA I
MISS YOU SURE HAVE NO AND QUEUED
UP TO GET THE START THANK YOU
WILL COME IT BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS IN REGARDS
TO THIS. MEASURES CENTER STERN.
I THINK THIS CHAIR-
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR BABY
THANK YOU SO MUCH CENTER- AND-
IT'S GOOD FIRST DAY BACK- MY
QUESTION FOR YOU IS ABOUT-
WHETHER THIS BILL WOULD ONLY
APPLY. TO DATA ABOUT
INTERNATIONAL SOURCES. OR FOR
ALSO TALKING ABOUT SAY EMISSIONS
FROM THE TEXAS OIL FIELD OR- AND
PENNSYLVANIA OR OTHER PLACES DO
YOU HAVE A- THE- A SENSE OF WITH
THE BILL SORT OF APPLY AND-
EVERYTHING BEING IMPORTED INTO
CALIFORNIA WOULD. WE BE TRACKING
THAT AIR QUALITY DATA OR ONLY
THE STUFF COMING IN FROM
INTERNATIONAL SOURCES. I'D IT'S
COMING FROM INTERNATIONAL
SERVICE SOURCES I CAN GET AN
EXPERT TO TESTIFY BUT I DON'T
BELIEVE WE IMPORT ANY OIL FROM
TEXAS IS THAT CORRECT.
CALIFORNIA DOES NOT IMPORT ANY
CRUDE OIL FROM ANY OTHER STATE
ANY OTHER STATE ALASKA AND
THAT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT. SO
THE SO ALASKAN OIL THOUGH WOULD
BE INCLUDED IN THIS OR EXCLUDED.
I CAN INCLUDE THAT SIR THAT
WOULD BE A VERY IMPORTANT POINT
IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO DO THAT
AND- I'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT BUT
LACKS WE DON'T WHEN YOU TALK
ABOUT TEXAS OR OTHER STATES OR-
CALIFORNIA DOESN'T IMPORT ANY
OIL. PRODUCTION FROM ANY OTHER
STATE THERE'S NO MECHANISM TO
BRING IT HERE WE NOT PIPELINES
WE IMPORT ALL OF OUR OIL THAT WE
DON'T PRODUCE HERE. FROM FOREIGN
COUNTRIES ECUADOR BEING THE
NUMBER ONE I WOULD APPRECIATE IF
YOU CONSIDER THAT GOING FOR
BECAUSE I ACTUALLY THINK THERE'S
SOME SPACE HERE ON BIPARTISAN IT
FOR BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT AND I
THINK THAT- YOU KNOW ESPECIALLY
HAVING SORT OF AN EVEN HANDED
APPROACH FOR EVERYTHING BEYOND
OUR BORDERS TO KNOW WE CAN
FIGURE OUT. AND MAKE SOME
DECISIONS- ACTUALLY MIGHT MAKE
SOME SPACE I THINK BOTH THE
NATURAL GAS AND OIL THERE'S A
LOT WE DON'T KNOW THAT BEYOND
OUR BORDERS SO. THANKS FOR THAT
THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT SENATOR
NEWMAN. TODAY YOU'RE SEARCHING
TO GROVE- APPRECIATE THIS BILL-
THE CLEARLY THERE IS SPACE FOR
BIPARTISAN. AGREEMENT BECAUSE
THIS BILL PASSED. IN IDENTICAL
FORM LAST YEAR BILLY BY THIRTY
FIVE ZERO. YES I AM AND SO YOU
HAVE BEEN MAKING. I THINK IT'S
VERY CLEAR CASE. FOR
CONSIDERATION OF THE IMPACT. OF
THE CHOICES WE MAKE ABOUT BEYOND
WHAT WE DO IN THE STATE AND I
THINK IT MAKES. EMINENT SENSE
RIGHT SO GLAD TO SUPPORT THE
BILL- THERE OTHER CONVERSATIONS
WE HAVE SEEN NEED TO HAVE THAT
DECARBONIZATION BUT- YOUR POINT
WHICH YOU MAKE SO COMPELLINGLY.
THIS MANY CHANCES YOU GET. ABOUT
YOU KNOW OIL BEING A FUNGIBLE
COMMODITY THAT WE THAT WE GET
FROM WHEREVER WE GET IT- AND THE
GLOW BEING. SOMEWHAT LARGE IN
CALIFORNIA. WE ARE NOT
NECESSARILY. LIVING UP TO OUR
IDEALS- IF WE'RE CAUSING- THE
ANSWER DAMAGE TO OTHER
COMMUNITIES TO ENVIRONMENT
SYSTEMS. SIMPLY BY NOT PRODUCING
THAT WHILE HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
AT THE DATA I THINK IT'S POOR
THAT IS IMPORTANT WHICH
COLLECTED DATA AND HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION GRANTS FOR THE BILL
AND I'D I'D SB AS A CO AUTHOR
SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU
SIR. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION OR DEBATE. ALL RIGHT-
SERRANO. YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION
ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A DEEP PASSES
A MINUTE TO APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. CENTER GROVE WHICH
ARE CLOSE THANK YOU THINK YOU
MISTER CHAIR COLLEAGUES- THE
COMMENTS WERE MADE YOU KNOW LIKE
SPECIFICALLY BANNING FLARING IN
NINETEEN THIRTY NINE IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT STILL
GOES ON IN THE COUNTRY. THAT
THAT WE PURCHASED OIL FROM IT
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THAT
CALIFORNIA WORKERS ARE READY TO
MEET THE DEMAND FOR CALIFORNIA'S
OIL. THERE'S MORE THAN FOURTEEN
HUNDRED DRILLING PERMITS THAT
ARE WAITING APPROVAL LIKE CAL
JIM. IN A FIFTY FIVE YOU I SEE
PERMITS AND WHAT'S INTERESTING
IS THAT KERN COUNTY OIL FIELD A
PHOTO THAT I SHOWED A LOT OF
THOSE OIL DRILLING PERMITS ARE
ON THAT SAME FIELD. THAT EXACT
THING FILLED IN THAT EXACT SAME
LOCATION WERE DRILLING FOR OIL
NOW BUT WE JUST CAN'T GET THE
PERMITS WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY
SENSE IF IT'S IN THE SAME
LOCATION ON THE SAME WATER
AQUIFER. I'M IN THE SAME FIELD-
AND WE COULD BREED PRODUCING
THAT OIL HERE WE'RE ABOUT A
HUNDRED THOUSAND GIRL SHORT PER
DAY. THAT WE USED TO PRODUCE AND
THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION THE
BROWN ADMINISTRATION THAN WE DO
NOW. BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED
TO OUR KERN COUNTY OIL FIELDS.
AND THE PERMIT PROCESS WE ARE
LOSING- WE'RE LOSING MORE
WORKERS AND MORE OIL PRODUCED
HERE. FOR CAL THE CONSUMPTION OF
CALIFORNIANS AND WE'RE IMPORTING
MORE OIL FROM LIKE I SAID
ORGANIZATIONS AND COUNTRIES.
THAT HAVE NO ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT- HAVE NO ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY- REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT
LIKE WE HAVE HERE IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA. AND I WOULD JUST
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU WE HAVE A FEW
PASSED AS AMENDED- TO
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE WE HAVE
A MOTION BY SENATOR. NEWMAN AND
THE MOMENT STATE DELETE
REFERENCE TO. OR BY HUMAN RIGHTS
ORGANIZATIONS AND INTENT
LANGUAGE REGARDING HAVING THE CC
MONITOR FOREIGN COUNTRIES THAT
EXPORT OIL TO CALIFORNIA.
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
BRADFORD AYE. BRADFORD AYE A
DALLY ASHBY BAKER. BECKER I
CABALLERO DODD. DIED I DORADO.
DR SO I EGGMAN. EGGMAN AYE
GONZALEZ GROW. AYE GROVE AYE
MCGUIRE MAN. MAN I NEWMAN.
NEWMAN AYE RUBIO SEYARTO
SKINNER. SKINNER AYE STERN.
STERN AYE WILK RIGHT WILL GUY.
ELEVEN THE BILL HAS ELEVEN VOTE
TO LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON NEXT UP
THIS YEAR FALL ITEM THREE BY
SENATOR PADILLA. SB. SIX ONE
NINE.
AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT
S. B. SIX ONE NINE AND I WANT TO
BEGIN BY ACCEPTING COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS.
CALIFORNIA'S INDEPENDENT SYSTEM
OPERATOR CAL AYE SO ESTIMATES
THAT THE STATE NEEDS TO GENERATE
MORE THAN SEVEN THOUSAND
MEGAWATTS TRANSMISSION CAPACITY
EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT DECADE.
PETE THAT AGAIN ACCORDING TO THE
STATE'S ENERGY BALANCING
AUTHORITY WE NEED TO CREATE AN
ADDITIONAL SEVEN THOUSAND
MEGAWATTS OF NEW TRANSMISSION
CAPACITY EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT
DECADE IN ORDER TO MEET OUR
RISING. ENERGY DEMANDS
UNFORTUNATELY ARE PERMITTING
SYSTEM WHICH IS CURRENTLY
EXCLUSIVELY VESTED WITH THE CPUC
IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH DEMAND IN
FACT CALIFORNIA'S GRID CAPACITY
IS NOWHERE NEAR WHERE WE NEED IT
TO BE. THE CURRENT PERMITTING
PROCESS ON AVERAGE CAN TAKE OVER
A DECADE. TO APPROVE NEW
PROJECTS BOTTLE NECKING AND
HAMPERING OUR EFFORTS TO
STRENGTHEN OUR GET OUR GRID AND
ULTIMATELY MEET OUR RENEWABLE
ENERGY GOALS. DELAYS IN
PERMITTING CAN RESULT IN HIGHER
CONSTRUCTION COSTS THREATENS OUR
CLIMATE GOALS BUT MOST
IMPORTANTLY. MAKES IT
INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT. TO KEEP
THE LIGHTS ON DURING THE SUMMER
MONTHS. WE MIGHT RECALL IN THE
LAST CYCLE WE WERE LITERALLY ONE
TEXT MESSAGE AWAY FROM A STATE
WIDE BLACKOUT. LAST YEAR THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED AB TWO OH
FIVE TO CREATE A PERMITTING
PROCESS THROUGH THE CDC FOR
INTERCONNECTION PERMITTING OF
QUALIFIED. ENERGY PROJECTS. SB
SIX ONE NIGHT SINCE SIX SIMPLY
SEEKS TO EXPAND THE AUTHORITY TO
TRANSMISSION PROJECTS BY
CREATING AN ALTERNATIVE OUTLET
FOR THE BACKLOG OF APPLICATIONS
AND A FASTER SYSTEM TO PROCESS
THOSE APPLICATIONS. I STIPULATE
FROM THE START THAT MORE WORK
NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THIS MEASURE
TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH THAT
GOAL. WHICH IS WHY WE WILL BE
AND ARE TALKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS IN THE
ADMINISTRATION. TO DESIGN A
SYSTEM THAT CAN FULLY VET THESE
PROJECTS IN A THOROUGH MANNER
AND IN A PREDICTABLE AND
REASONABLE TIME FRAME. I ALSO
SAY LIKE TO TAKE THE AMENDMENTS
SUGGESTED COMMITTEE ANALYSIS. TO
CHANGE THE CURRENT PERSONALLY
PRIORITIZATION LANGUAGE EXCUSE
ME TO AN ELEMENT THAT THE CDC
SHOULD CONSIDER. HAVING SAID
THAT I THINK THE CDC'S PROCESS
OUGHT NOT BE A FIRST COME FIRST
SERVE PROCESS BECAUSE THAT WILL
INCENTIVIZE INCOMPLETE. AND
SPECULATIVE ACT APPLICATIONS.
INSTEAD PERHAPS A READING THIS
TEST SHOULD BE APPLIED TO
PRIORITIZING PROJECTS. THAT ARE
READY TO GO FOR INSTANCE THOSE
WITH SIGHT CONTROL. OR A POWER
PURCHASE AGREEMENT. I ASKED FOR
AN AYE VOTE IN ORDER TO KEEP
THIS BILL MOVING. THE
CONVERSATION GOING AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO COMING BACK WITH A
COMPLETE AND THOUGHTFUL MEASURE
FOLLOWING STAKEHOLDER
ENGAGEMENT. WHAT THE TODAY IS V.
JOHN WHITE THE CENTER FOR ENERGY
EFFICIENCY AND RENEWABLE
TECHNOLOGY. THE FOLLOWING HIS
TESTIMONY. MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS I'D RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
NOVEL. THANK YOU MISS WHAT YOU
HAVE TO MOUNT MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS JOHN WHITE WITH THE
CLEAN POWER CAMPAIGN WE THANK
SENATOR PER THEIR FOR BRINGING
THIS MEASURE FORWARD WE ALSO
APPRECIATE SENATOR BACKERS
EFFORTS AND THE EFFORTS OF YOUR
STAFF TO PUT THESE BILLS AND
SHAPE. WE VERY MUCH. A CONCUR
WITH THE SENATORS CONCLUSION
THAT WE ARE BEHIND AND WE NEED
TO CATCH UP. THESE PROJECTS ARE
ARE. IN IMPORTANT NOT JUST FOR
CLEAN ENERGY GOALS IMPORTANT FOR
RELIABILITY AND FOR REDUCING OUR
DEPENDENCE ON NATURAL GAS. AND
HELP REDUCE RATES IT'S IMPORTANT
UNDERSTAND THAT INTER CONNECTING
AND BUILDING OUT THE
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM IS GOING TO
REDUCE COSTS. BECAUSE THE
RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING
CONNECTED ARE GOING TO SAVE
MONEY COMPARED TO THE RESOURCES
THAT WE NOW HAVE SO WE'D ASK FOR
AND I PUT CENTER. Q. ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
. STATE YOUR NAME AND
ORGANIZATION PLEASE. HI MY NAME
IS ALAN MADILL WITH WOMAN
STRATEGIES ON BEHALF OF SAN
DIEGO COMMUNITY POWER IN SUPPORT
THANKS. GENESIS TANK ON BEHALF
OF CLEANER TASK FORCE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. MAKING SURE I'M WAY ON
BEHALF OF SACRAMENTO THREE
FIFTY. AND CONNECTION CALIFORNIA
WERE IN SUPPORT. CYNTHIA SHELL
IT ON BEHALF OF. INDIVISIBLE
CALIFORNIA STATE STRONG. THANK
YOU NEXT WITNESS. FOR A CHRIS
MARTINEZ WITH THE INTERNATIONAL
BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL
WORKERS LOCAL TWELVE FORTY FIVE
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN
SUPPORT. SHINO KNOWLEDGE MOVED
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO SB SIX ONE NINE.
YOU HAVE TOO MUCH. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS NIGGLING
ATLANTA'S GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR
SANYO GAS ELECTRIC- AT- HERE AS
OPPOSED TO LESS AMENDED AND
REMOVING OPPOSITION GIVEN THAT
HE IS ACCESSING COMMITMENTS WE
ORIGINALLY HAD CONCERNS WITH.
SOME OF THE THRESHOLD LANGUAGE
BUT APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS IN
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS AND- WHAT
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR GOING FORWARD THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. SHE
NONE MODERATE LET'S GO TO OUR
PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF SB. SIX
ONE NINE.
MODERATOR APOLOGIZE IF YOU WISH
TO SPEAK ON THIS PLEASE PRESS
ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME.
MISTERI OF KNOWING QUEUING UP AT
THIS TIME GREAT WE'RE GONNA
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS
IT RELATES SB SIX ONE NINE.
HEARING C. NINE WE HAVE A MOTION
BY SENATOR STERN WE HAVE A DO
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR PER DIEM
WHICH OUGHT TO CLOSE MISTER
CHAIRMAN I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
NINE. GREAT AND JUST TO STATE
WHAT THAT A MEMBER IT IS IT'S
STATES DELETE PRIORITIZE TO
CONSIDER IN RELATIONSHIP TO
PROJECTS THAT HAVE TRANSMISSION
PROJECTS TO JOIN YOUR FIFTY
MILLION IN FINANCING. CONSULTANT
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE DALY ASHBY BECKER.
BECKER I HAVE A HERO DIED. DODD
I DERISIVE DRESS SO I EGGMAN
EGGMAN AYE GONZALEZ GROWTH.
MCGUIRE MAN MAN I NEWMAN. NEWMAN
AYE RUBIO SEYARTO SKINNER.
SKINNER AYE STERN STERN AYE WILK
HI WILK AYE. TEN TO ZERO THAT
MEASURE HAS TEN VOTES WHO HAS
ENOUGH TO GET OUT WILL BE THE
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT COULD MEAN
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO ADD ON
THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN THANK YOU
NEXT UP IS FILE ITEM FOR SENATOR
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR GOOD
AFTERNOON COMMITTEE MEMBERS- I
WOULD LIKE TO START BY SAYING
THAT- ONE THANK YOU FOR- THE
COMMITTEE STAFF WORKING WITH MY
TEAM- WE ARE ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS OFFERED IN THE
ANALYSIS- AND DAD. WE
APPRECIATE. THE SUPPORT ON THIS
BILL. I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT S.
B. EIGHT TWENTY THREE WHICH
WOULD HIS PROPOSED- TO BE
AMENDED DIRECT THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION TO CREATE A
PROGRAM TO CREATE NEW INCENTIVES
FOR CALIFORNIA'S LOW AND
MODERATE INCOME RESIDENTS TO
SWITCH TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN
ESSENCE THIS IS A BILL THAT IS
ABOUT AS BUILDING AN INCLUSIVE.
GREEN FUTURE FOR CALIFORNIA AND
FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS ONE OF THE
CORNERSTONES OF OUR FIGHT
AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE HAS BEEN
THE CONVERT THE CONVERSION OF
CALIFORNIA'S PERSONAL VEHICLES
FROM FOSSIL FUELS TO ZERO
EMISSION ELECTRIC VEHICLES. MANY
PROGRAMS EXIST TO INCENTIVIZE
CALIFORNIANS TO MAKE THE SWITCH
INCLUDING A DISCOUNT OFFER TO
ELECTRIC RATEPAYERS WHEN
CHARGING THEIR VEHICLES AT HOME
HOWEVER NOT ALL CALIFORNIANS
HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO THESE
PROGRAMS. VEHICLE OWNERS LIVING
IN MULTI UNIT DWELLINGS LOW
WHOSE LANDLORDS DON'T INSTALL
CHARGING STATIONS OR HOMEOWNERS
WITHOUT THE ELECTRICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT
CHARGING AT THEIR RESIDENTS ARE
BEING LEFT OUT OF THE GREEN
REVOLUTION AND THAT IS A WHOLE
LOT OF FOLKS. A WHOLE LOT OF
FOLKS IN OUR DISTRICTS
PARTICULARLY IN OUR LOWER
INCOME. DISTRICTS WHERE WE KNOW
ACCESS IS CRITICAL A FOR A FOR
PARTICIPATION IN OPPORTUNITY SO
SHOULD THESE VEHICLE OWNERS
SWITCH TO E. BEES AND WE WANT
THAT TO BE THE CASE THEY WOULD
HAVE TO DEPEND ON PUBLIC
CHARGING STATIONS THEREBY
MISSING OUT ON THE INCENTIVE
RATES. THAT WOULD MAKE EV'S MORE
OF A REASONABLE INVESTMENT FOR
THEM WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO
MAKE AFFORDABLE CHARGING
ACCESSIBLE. TO ALL CALIFORNIANS
. AND THAT'S REGARDLESS OF WHERE
THEY LIVE. OKAY PARTICULARLY AT
A TIME WHEN THE BURDEN OF FOSSIL
FUEL IS DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMPACTING LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES
OF COLOR. SB EIGHT TWENTY THREE
WOULD SEEK TO DO THIS BY
ESTABLISHING A GRANT PROGRAM. AT
THE C. E. C. TO PROVIDE FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES TO EVEY CHARGING
DISCOUNTS FOR LOW TO MODERATE
WITH MODERATE INCOME AB DRIVERS
. I HAVE WITH ME TODAY TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IS BEEN
EICHER. WITH THE LET'S GREEN
CALIFORNIA. I WELCOME BEEN TO
SHARE HIS COMMENTS THANK YOU UP
TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU SO MUCH
SENATOR AND THANK YOU CHAIR
THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS BENJAMIN I
KERR I AM THE DIRECTOR OF LET'S
GREEN CALIFORNIA WHICH IS AN
INITIATIVE OF THE NONPROFIT
ROMERO INSTITUTE. FOR SEVERAL
YEARS OUR ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN
CONDUCTING OUTREACH AND
EDUCATION IN AND PROVIDING
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES HELPING
THEM TRANSITION FROM FOSSIL FUEL
POWER TECHNOLOGIES THE CLEAN
ELECTRIC TECHNOLOGIES. IT'S A WE
HAVE SEEN FIRST HAND THE
SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL BARRIERS
TO ELECTRIFICATION FACED BY LOW
INCOME AND MODERATE INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS IN UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES. THE SENATOR HAS
DONE A GREAT JOB SUMMARIZING
WHAT THIS BILL IS ABOUT AND WHY
IT'S IMPORTANT I REALLY WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THAT OUR EXPERIENCE ON
THE GROUND SAYS THAT A PROGRAM
LIKE THIS IS NECESSARY AND WILL
REALLY HELP ENSURE. THAT LOW AND
MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND
FAMILIES ARE AT THE FOREFRONT OF
OUR TRANSITION TO ELECTRIC
VEHICLES WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM
IF THEY'RE LAGGING IN THAT
TRANSITION NOT ONLY IS THE
GASOLINE BURDEN CURRENTLY HIGH.
BUT IF THEY ARE AT THE BACK END
OF THAT TRANSITION IS JUST GONNA
GET WORSE AND SO- WE THINK THIS
IS A TIMELY PROGRAM AS WELL WE
EXPECT FROM STATE AND FEDERAL
INVESTMENT TWO HUNDRED FIFTY
THOUSAND NEW. DC FAST CHARGERS
TO BE BUILT UP THROUGH THE END
OF TWENTY TWENTY FIVE A PROGRAM
LIKE THIS WILL HELP INSURE. THAT
FOLKS AND UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES HAVE AFFORDABLE
ACCESS TO THAT CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE. MINIMIZING THE
POSSIBILITY OF STRANDED ASSETS
AND AGAIN HELPING ENSURE THAT
THE COMMUNITIES THAT CAN BENEFIT
THE MOST. FROM A TRANSITION TO
CLEAN CARS ARE LEADING THAT
TRANSITION I RESPECTFULLY URGE
YOUR AYE VOTE. I DO ALSO WANT TO
THANK THE STAKEHOLDERS WITH WHOM
WE'VE BEEN HAVING. VERY
CONSTRUCTIVE ENGAGEMENT DIALOGUE
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS AND
ALSO THANK THE COMMITTEES
SUPPORT. I URGE YOUR IBOOK THANK
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF THIS
ROGER STATE YOUR NAME AND
ORGANIZATION PLAYERS. HI MY NAME
IS MAX SNYDER ON BEHALF OF
REWIRING AMERICA IN STRONG
SUPPORT. MAKING SURE MY FROM
SACRAMENTO IN STRONG SUPPORT.
CYNTHIA SHALLOW WITH INDIVISIBLE
INDIVISIBLE CALIFORNIA STATE
STRONG AND LET'S GREEN
CALIFORNIA. BERRY VESTED WITH
THE CLIMATE CENTRE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
HEARING TÍNH ON. LET'S MOVE
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES
STAGE. STAGE POSITION. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS READ
AT US ON BEHALF OF THE ELECTRIC
VEHICLE CHARGING ASSOCIATION.
AND TOTAL SUPPORT IN SPIRIT OF
THE MEASURE AS OF LAST WEEK WE
WERE AND IMPOSED BECAUSE IT
VEERED VERY FAR AWAY FROM THE
STATE PILOT HOWEVER BASED ON OUR
READ OF WHERE THE SENATORS GOING
WITH THE COMMITTEE. AND THE
AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING
SUGGESTED TODAY. I THINK THE
ASSOCIATION AT THE VERY LEAST
CAN GO NEUTRAL I HAVE TO HAVE
SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH
THEM TO SEE IF THEY CAN ACTUALLY
GO TO SUPPORT AT THIS POINT IN
TIME THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND
SUBPOENA IN OPPOSITION I SHOULD
SAY OR TWEENER. SHE NINE
MODERATE LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES FOR WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
OR IN OPPOSITION. OF S. B. EIGHT
TWO THREE. ENGLISH JOURNEY WILL
WHICH SPEAKER SUPPORT FOR
OPPOSITION OF SB EIGHTY THREE
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME. WE'LL GO TO LINE TWO
FORTY TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON THEY'RE BRADFORD AND
MANY MEMBERS MY NAME IS CARE ACT
AND I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF
COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL
LABOR NETWORK FOR SUSTAINABILITY
AND INTERFAITH POWER AND LIGHT
IN SUPPORT OF NFL EIGHT VIEWS.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THAT'S WITH
US. ONE TWO FORTY FIVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON THIS IS
NEEDED FEBRUARY I'M CALLING
FROM. CALIFORNIA EIGHT FONG
INDIVISIBLE AND LET'S BRING
CALIFORNIA STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU NEXT
WITNESS. ONE TWO OH SIX PLEASE
GO AHEAD. YEAH FROM THE SENATE
FROM. OPEN ENROLLMENT TO VOTER
CALLING IN SUPPORT OF AT EIGHT
TWENTY THREE. ONE SIXTY FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. AFTERNOON THIS
IS EVERY DARN BURKE ON BEHALF OF
JOBS TO MOVE AMERICA INSIDE THE
PARK. ONE TWO FORTY FOUR PLEASE
GO AHEAD. AFTERNOON FOR BATTLING
THE MEMBERS MY NAME IS NO AYE
GARCIA AND I'M CALLING ON BEHALF
OF THE LOTUS WHAT I FOUNDATION.
MOVED AWAY AND HELP OUT THE CITY
CLIMATE ACTION IN SUPPORT OF
SENATE BILL EIGHTY THREE THANKS
MUCH THANK YOU FOR THE- ONE TWO
FORTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD.
BEYOND THE SCHOOL CLIMATE
COALITION SPEAKING OF OR OF S.
B. EIGHT THREE THREE. MISTER
CHAIRMAN OF NO ONE ELSE IN
TUITION SPEAK THANK YOU OR BRING
IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AS IT
RELATES TO AS THREE. EIGHT TWO
THREE CENTER MEANT. IT'S A GREAT
BILL- WOULD LOVE TO CO AUTHOR
THE A AT THE END IS CO AUTHOR
DIFFERENTLY TIME AND MOVE THE
BILL. THANK YOU ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION ABATE RECALL
REGARDING THIS ROGER. HEARING
SOONER AND WE HAVE A DO PASS TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
- JUST- ST THE MOMENT THREE
CASTS A BILL TO ESTABLISH A
GRANT PROGRAM AT THE C. C. TO
PROVIDE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
FOR THE STOUT SMITH OF THE EEVEE
CHARGING DISCOUNT TO LOW TO
MODERATE INCOME EVEY DRIVERS
USING PUBLIC PUBLICLY AVAILABLE
CHARGERS SPECIFIED THAT THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GRANT
PROGRAM IS CONTINUED UPON THE CC
RECEIVING FUNDING FOR THAT
PROGRAM AM I CORRECT. WRECKED
THANK YOU. YES I AM OKAY YES YOU
MAY CLOSE. WELL I JUST WANT TO
SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE-
AND I APPRECIATED THE COMMENTS-
BY A BY MY SPEAKER- WE DON'T
WANT THESE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES TO BE ON
THE BACK END. AS WE ARE BUILDING
THIS INFRASTRUCTURE TOWARD A
RESILIENT CALIFORNIA WE WANT TO
PUT THEM AT THE CENTER IN THE
FOREFRONT SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR IPHONE. THANK YOU AGAIN
WE HAVE A DO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE DALY
ASHBY BAKER. ZERO DODD. DOTD I
DRAWS- ALL RIGHT DRAWS- I
EGGMAN. EGGMAN AYE AGAIN SALAS
GROVE. GROVE I'D MCGUIRE MEN.
MEN EYEING NEWMAN. NEWMAN AYE
RUBIO SEYARTO SKINNER. SKINNER
AYE STERN STERN AYE WILK. BAKER
HI. BAKER I. CONTEND THAT
MEASURE STERN ZERO IT'S OUT WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS SAT ON THANK YOU
SENATORS THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS
SOONER ARE TO A LOT OF FIREARM
FIVE SB. EIGHT THREE SEVEN.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS THANK YOU SO
VERY MUCH- I WOULD LIKE TO START
BY THANKING THE CHAIR AND HIS
COMMITTEE STAFFER WORKING WITH
ME IN IT AND I AGREED TO ACCEPT
THE COMMITTEE'S SUGGESTED
AMENDMENTS. SENATE BILL EIGHT
THREE SEVEN WOULD FURTHER
CALIFORNIA'S BUILDING ENERGY
EFFICIENCY GOLD BY DIRECTING THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION TO
SIMPLY CONSIDER NOT REQUIRE SOME
TO CONSIDER ALLOWING THE
INSULATION OF UNVETTED. ATTICS
AND- IN NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE
NEW HOMES WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD
TO A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING
ON IN CALIFORNIA SO WHEN THE
ENERGY COMMISSION UPDATED
BUILDING ENERGY EFFICIENT
STANDARDS WE WANT THIS INCLUDED.
CALIFORNIA ENERGY CODE
ENCOURAGES BUILDERS TO CONSTRUCT
ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDINGS WHILE
GIVING THEM FLEXIBILITY TO
CHOOSE WHICH DESIGN TECHNIQUES
AND TECHNOLOGIES BEST SUIT THEIR
WORK. SENATE BILL EIGHT THIRTY
SEVEN IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD BILL
THAT ADDS ANOTHER TOOL TO THEIR
TOOL BOX THE USE OF UNVETTED
ADDICTS IS RECOGNIZED BY THE
INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE
UTILIZED IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS
AND PROVEN TO HAVE SUFFICIENT
ENERGY SAVINGS. CALIFORNIA HAS A
BROAD ARRAY OF BUILDING CRITERIA
WITH ONE AREA OF FOCUS AROUND
MAINTAIN A STRONG BUILDING
THERMAL ENVELOPE. A STRONG
BUILDING THERMAL ENVELOPE ACTS
AS A BARRIER PREVENTING THE
TRANSFER OF HEAT IN OR OUT OF
THE BUILDING AND REDUCES THE
OVERALL ENERGY CONSUMPTION. ONE
MECHANISM FOR STRENGTHENING A
THERMAL ENVELOPE IS BY USING
UNVETTED ADDICTS WHICH HAVE BEEN
INCLUDED IN THE INTERNATIONAL
RESIDENTIAL CODE SINCE TWO
THOUSAND AND FOUR. UNVETTED
ADDICTS INCLUDE THE ROOF LINES
AS THE BOUNDARY OF THE ENVELOPE
ACTING AS A SEAL AROUND THE TOP
OF THE BUILDING INCLUDES HEATING
VENTILATION AND AIR CONDITIONING
EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE BUILDING
ENVELOPE. THIS IS COMPARED TO
VETTED ADDICTS WHICH ARE LOCATED
AT THE BOUNDARY AREAS OF THE
CEILING LEAVING THE DUCTWORK AIR
CONDITIONING EQUIPMENT ETCETERA
OUTSIDE THE ENVELOPE ACCORDING
TO THE US DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
THIS CAN INCREASE THE ENERGY
NEEDED. FOR AIR CONDITIONING AND
HEATING BY TEN PERCENT. CURRENT
STANDARDS DO NOT INCLUDE
UNVETTED ADDICTS IN THE
DEFINITION OF A CONDITION SPACE
THEREFORE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY
TO MAXIMIZE ENERGY EFFICIENCY
AND REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH
HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING.
THIS BILL WOULD FURTHER
INCENTIVIZE BUILDERS TO
CONSTRUCT MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT
HOMES IMPORTANTLY IF THE
COMMISSION INCLUDES THIS UPDATE
IT WOULD NOT CREATE ANY NEW
MANDATES FOR THE BUILDERS. WITH
ME TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS
SALGUEIRO. FERRARI ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION THESE REASONS YEAH I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
ABOUT. ART YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES
FOOLISH THING MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS SILVIO FOR ON BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA BUILDING INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION- HERE IN STRONG
SUPPORT WANT TO PUT A FINE POINT
ON SOMETHING THE AUTHOR JESS
SAID BUT ALSO WHAT'S REFERENCED
AND STATED IN THE ANALYSIS WHICH
THIS BILL IS NOT A MANDATE. IF
WE WERE HERE LOOKING AT A BILL
THAT WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY
STATUTORILY MANDATE A BUILDING
CODE WE WOULD BE HERE IN STRONG
OPPOSITION AND THAT IS NOT WHAT
THIS BILL DOES. I THINK EVERYONE
IS VERY WELL AWARE THAT THE
ENERGY CODE IS GETTING MORE
DIFFICULT TO COMPLY WITH IT IS
GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE AND WE
NEED AS MANY TOOLS IN OUR
TOOLBOX TO COMPLY WITH THAT
ENERGY COAT. CBI HAS SUPPORTED
THE LAST FIFTEEN YEARS OF ENERGY
CODE UPDATES THAT'S FIVE
TRAINING ALLOW UPDATES WE
SUPPORTED THE SOLAR MANDATE. AND
WE NEED AGAIN OPTIONS AT EVERY
TURN TO TRY TO COMPLY FORTY NINE
OTHER STATES ALLOW THIS WE THINK
IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED- SO WE
WOULD URGE YOUR- DR- THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A
MOTION BY SENATOR GROVE. ARE ANY
OTHER WITNESSES HERE AND
SUPPORT. OF S. B. EIGHT THREE
SEVEN. C. NINE. LET'S GO TO
OPPOSITION ANYONE HERE IN
OPPOSITION. OF S. B. EIGHT THREE
SEVEN. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS CHRIS BOLLINGER ON
BEHALF THE ASPHALT ROOFING
MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION
DISSOCIATED ROOFING CONTRACTORS
OF THE BAY AREA COUNTIES. THE
NATIONAL ROOFING CONTRACTORS
ASSOCIATION NORTH AMERICAN
INSULATION MANUFACTURERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE WESTERN
STATES ROOFING CONTRACTORS
ASSOCIATION HERE IN OPPOSITION-
SB THIRTY SEVEN. FIRST WINNING
KNOWLEDGE IN OUR COALITION IS
VERY LATE AND TAKING A POSITION
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
THE AUTHOR TO ADDRESS OUR
CONCERNS. OF THOSE IN THE
HIGHLIGHT TO HEAR TODAY THE
FIRST IS AROUND PROCESS THIS
BILL IS AN ATTEMPT TO CIRCUMVENT
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION'S RULE MAKING
PROCESS. THE CDC ALREADY HAS THE
AUTHORITY TO MAKE THESE
CONSIDERATIONS AND DOES SO ON A
TRIENNIAL BASIS THE COMMISSION
AS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT
REVIEW ENERGY EFFICIENCY
STANDARDS AND SUPPORTING DATA
EVERY DAY. SB EIGHT THIRTY SEVEN
IS DUPLICATIVE UNNECESSARY AND
SETS BAD PRECEDENT THAT
UNDERMINES THE CECE'S REGULATORY
AUTHORITY IN SECOND WHEN LOOKING
AT ENERGY EFFICIENCY YOU MUST
ALWAYS TAKE A WHOLE BUILDING
APPROACH SB THIRTY SEVEN ONLY
TARGETS A SINGLE FEATURE OF THE
BUILDING ENVELOPE. BUILDING
ENERGY USES A COMPLICATED MATTER
REQUIRING WHOLE BUILDING
ANALYSIS OF THE ENTIRE ENVELOPE
AND ITS EQUIPMENT FEATURES WE
SHOULD NOT USE THE BUILDING CODE
TO PRESCRIBE OR PROMOTE A
SINGULAR TECHNOLOGY OR DESIGN
SOLUTION. THE COACH SHOULD
ESTABLISH REQUIREMENTS THAT
ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY BASED ON A
NUMBER OF FACTORS INCLUDING BUT
NOT LIMITED TO CLIMATE PRODUCT
AVAILABILITY AND OTHER BUILDING
DESIGN FEATURES WHAT I THINK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
ANALYSIS. SPECIFICALLY THE CALL
OUT OF IN POTENTIAL CONFUSION
SURROUNDING THE TERM SEALED OR
UNWANTED ADDICTS WE APPRECIATE
THE COMMITTEE'S TIME
CONSIDERATION OUR COALITION AS
OPPOSED SB THIRTY SEVEN. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN
ROOM- TWELVE HUNDRED WHO ARE
OPPOSED TO- S. B. EIGHT THREE
SEVEN. C. NINE LET'S GO TO THE
PHONE LINE FOR WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OR OPT OR IN OPPOSITION
OF. SB EIGHT THREE SEVEN
MODERATOR PLEASE. IF YOU'RE
SPEAK ON SB EIGHT THIRTY SEVEN
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME
. AND JUST MORE MATURE WE GATHER
ONE NUMBER.
IT WILL GO TO ONE TO THIRTY FIVE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING
KAREN MEMBERS BRADY GARDEN ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
BUILDING OFFICIALS IN SUPPORT OF
S. B. EIGHT THREE SEVEN THANK
YOU. THANK YOU THANKS CALLER. MR
HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN Q. SPEAK
GREAT OR BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ANY DISCUSSION OR
DEBATE MEMBERS ANY DISK. IT'S
BEEN MOVED BY CENTER GROVE WE
HAVE A DO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. MR CENTER
ARCHULETA WHICH OUGHT TO CLOSE I
THANK YOU MEASURE RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR AYE VOTE THANK YOU
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON S. B. EIGHT THREE SEVEN.
BRADFORD ALL RIGHT BRADFORD AYE
DALY ASHBY BAKER. CARRIER.
GARCIA BAKER HI OKAY BAKER I
HAVE A HERO DODD. DIED I'D
DORADO DR SO I EGGMAN. EGGMAN
AYE GONZALEZ GROVE GROVE I AM
ACQUIRE MEN. NEWMAN NEWMAN AYE
RUBIO SEYARTO SKINNER SKINNER
AYE STERN STERN AYE WILK HI LOOK
I. TEN THANK YOU MR THAT MEASURE
HAS TEN VOTES WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO
ADD ON. THE SUIT NO MORE AUTHORS
HERE AN AUDIENCE I WILL MOVE TO
CENTRE BACK ARE YOU PREPARED.
CENTER AND HE SAID YES SOME
STUDENTS THAT'S ON THE REASON
I'M BYPASS. LET'S LET'S LET'S
LET'S MAKE SURE IT'S.
WHAT MEASURE YOU PRESENTING
FURTHER THIS VIA IT SB SEVEN
FIVE FIVE SB SEVEN FIVE FIVE
FILE ITEM TWELVE. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS
REDUCING CARBON EMISSIONS FROM
RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AS
NECESSARY IMPROVE INDOOR AIR
QUALITY AND MEET THE STATE'S NET
ZERO EMISSION TARGETS BY TWENTY
FORTY FIVE TO ENSURE THE
CALIFORNIA'S OF ALL INCOMES ARE
ABLE TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN
THE SWITCH ELECTRIC APPLIANCES
CALIFORNIA AND THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT REVISED UNPRECEDENTED
INVESTMENTS REBATES GRANTS AND
INCENTIVES TO SUPPORT THE
TRANSITION. FOR LOWER MIDDLE
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. ALTHOUGH
CALIFORNIA LEADER INCENTIVES IN
THESE AREAS I'M CURRENTLY THEIR
MINISTERED THROUGH KIND OF A
FRUIT SALAD OF GOVERNMENT BODIES
AND PARTNERS DESPITE SOME LOCAL
AND STATE EFFORTS TO SIMPLIFY
THIS THE VARIOUS APPLICATIONS
AND BELIEF REMAINS SCATTERED
BURNING ORGANIZATIONS AND
INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDS. THIS
LEGISLATION WHICH WERE NAMING
CLEAR CALIFORNIA'S LAYERED
ENERGY APPLICATION FOR RESIDENCE
REQUIRES A SEIZE EASE THE CC
THREE TO SINGLE ONLINE
APPLICATION TO APPLY FOR
CALIFORNIA'S RESIDENTIAL ENERGY.
PROGRAMS A SINGLE ONE STOP SHOP
WE'LL MAKE A PLAN FOR CURRENT
FUTURE PROGRAMS SIMPLER AND
FASTER. MORE OF THE LEGISLATURE
REQUIRE THE AGENCY TO RECEIVE
FEEDBACK FROM LOCAL PROGRAMS
THAT COULD BE ADDED INTO THIS
APPLICATION AS MORE LOCAL
LOCALLY ADMINISTERED SUPPORT AND
REBATE FOR ELECTRIFICATION IS
CREATED. THIS PORTABLE CREATING
BY THE C. C. WILL BE SUBJECT TO
ANNUAL REVIEW REQUIRE PROACTIVE
COMMUNICATION ORGANIZER'S IN
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES IT
WOULD COMPLEMENT NOT REPLACE
EXISTING APPLICATION OPTIONS.
THIS LEGISLATION WILL LIST LET'S
SAY SHE WAS THE WINNER OF MY
DISTRICT ARE TO BE A LAW
COMPETITION. AS THE ISSUE OF
DISORGANIZED ENERGY PROGRAMS IS
A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR CONSTITUENTS
IN MY DISTRICT AND I FACES WHEN
I WAS ELECTRIFY MOTOR HOME. BUT
WERE MANY OF THEM ARE EARLY
ADOPTERS OF CLEAN ENERGY
APPLIANCES IN EV'S. DIFFERENT
WHEN EMPHASIZE THE LOCAL NEED
FOR SIMPLIFICATION AND
STREAMLINING OF THESE
APPLICATIONS TO IMPROVE
ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL THE
CLIMATE TRANSITION. WITH THAT I
HAVE TWO WITNESSES HERE TODAY
INCLUDE THE WINNER ABROAD TO BE
A LAW CONTEST OUR OUR FIRST
WITNESS HE HE'LL HAVE TWO
MINUTES PLEASE. HI THERE I'M
JILL FERGUSON I'M A PHD STUDENT
AT STANFORD. AND I SUBMITTED
THIS IDEA INTO THE ALL TO BE A
LAW CONTEST BECAUSE A ONE STOP
SHOP PLATFORM. IS A CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALL NEED
WHEN YOU'RE ON THE SAROD OF
UPGRADING FOURTEEN MILLION HOMES
BY TWENTY FORTY FIVE. THAT'S
BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN EASY
CHALLENGE SPECIALLY TODAY LET'S
IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE A MOTHER OF
FOUR. AND IT'S THE MIDDLE OF
SUMMER IN YOUR H. FACT GOES OUT.
AND YOU KIDS ARE HOT AND YOU'RE
YOU KNOW ELDERLY RELATIVES ARE
AT RISK. YOU'RE JUST GOING TO GO
WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S
AVAILABLE TO YOU THE QUICKEST
RIGHT IT'S NOT ALL INTUITIVE OR
EASY OR FAST. TO WADE THROUGH
ALL YOUR EXISTING PROGRAMS AND
RESEARCH ALL THE CONTRACTORS AND
THEN APPLY FOR AND WAIT FOR
THOSE REBATES. AND SO THAT IS
WHY WITH THIS BILL. WE COULD
HAVE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF THE CDC
AND THE C. P. U. C. ALREADY KNOW
WHAT THE HOMES QUALIFY FOR
BEFORE THEY EVEN SENT A
CONTRACTOR ON A TRUCK ROLLED TO
A HOME. THEY CAN PRE QUALIFY
FOLKS. THEY COULD AUTO FILL THE
APPLICATIONS WITH EVERY PROGRAM
FROM REBATES INCENTIVES
FINANCING INCLUSIVE INVESTMENT
AND EVEN RATE HELP ALL IN ONE
PLACE. AND BE ABLE TO HELP THE
CONTRACTORS IN THE TREATMENTS
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT HOUSEHOLD
QUALIFIES FOR IT WHEN THEY ROLL
UP TO THE HOME AND DO THE
UPGRADE. AND IT ALSO HAS A
LARGER IMPACT FOR THE REST OF
THE NATION BECAUSE WE'VE
OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED THIS SB
SEVEN FIVE FIVE INTO THE
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S REQUEST
FOR INFORMATION ON THE INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT. REBATE
DISTRIBUTION AND SO THE IDEA
THAT HOME UPGRADES COULD BE MADE
EASIER COULD BECOME A NEW
NATIONAL STANDARD IF YOU ALL'S
PILOT OF THIS GOES WELL SO WITH
THAT THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I'LL
PASS IT TO THE NEXT WITNESS
THANK CENTER BAKER. THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR THE CENTER BACKER- MY
NAME'S INFO SHAY I'M A STUDENT
AT STANFORD LAW SCHOOL AT THE
STANFORD DOOR SCHOOL
SUSTAINABILITY WHERE I AM
RESEARCHING I RESIDENTIAL
DECARBONISATION ISSUES- I'M HERE
IN SUPPORT OF SB SEVEN FIVE FIVE
AND WANTED TO ECHO OF MY
COLLEAGUE MISS FERGUSON'S
COMMENTS. I JUST TWO QUICK
POINTS TO ADD. I FIRST I'D LIKE
TO BRING TO THE COMMITTEE'S
ATTENTION UP THERE QUITE A FEW
ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL
DECARBONISATION PROGRAMS
ADMINISTERED BY THE STATE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS UTILITIES- THAT
COULD MERIT INCLUSION IN THIS
CLEAR PLATFORM- SB SEVEN FIVE
FIVE PRESERVES THE FLEXIBILITY
FOR THE CDC TO INCLUDE THOSE
PROGRAMS BUT I ENCOURAGE THE
COMMITTEE TO. CONSIDER HOW THOSE
PROGRAMS MIGHT BE INTEGRATED
INTO THE PLATFORM- EITHER AT
THIS STAGE THEIR EXPLICIT
INCLUSION OR IN THE FUTURE. AT
TO NAME A FEW THE CDC HAS THAT
HOMEOWNER DREAM HOME OWNER
MANAGING ENERGY SAVINGS REBATE
AND THE HIGH EFFICIENCY ELECTRIC
HOME REBATE. VARIOUS FEDERAL TAX
CREDITS PROVIDED BY THE
INFLATION REDUCTION ACT WHICH MY
COLLEAGUE IS FIRST MENTIONED-
AND THEN OTHER UTILITY PROGRAMS
LIKE THE ENERGY SAVINGS
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM SO. ALL COULD
BE CONSIDERED FOR INCLUSION IN
THIS CLEAR PLATFORM- AND THEN
SECOND JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT
THE CPC HAS SEPARATELY MOVE
TOWARDS. A UNIVERSAL APPLICATION
SYSTEM FOR LOW INCOME RATE
ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS INCLUDING
CARE- AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN SB
SEVEN FIFTY FIVE WHICH INCLUDE
THOSE RATE ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS-
AND I SUPPORT THAT APPROACH
WHICH WOULD COME CLOSEST TO
CREATING THE ONE STOP SHOP THAT
SENATOR BACKER- DISCUSSED. AT
AFFORDABILITY AND
DECARBONISATION KIND OF COURSE
OF COURSE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE
HOME UPGRADES MORE ACCESSIBLE
AND AFFORDABLE FOR CALIFORNIANS.
RATHER THAN SPLITTING THOSE INTO
MILD MULTIPLE DIFFERENT
PLATFORMS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
YOUR TIME. THANK YOU NEXT
WITNESS YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION PLACE. SILVIO FOR
OUR A HAPPY CAL BUILDING
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. PAUL YOU'RE A BEHALF
OF THE BOARD SU RESIDENT FRESNO
KERN COUNTY SAN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. MAKE SNYDER ON BEHALF OF
REWIRING AMERICAN SUPPORT.
KILLER ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF
CENTRAL COAST ENERGY SERVICES
FOR THE SUPPORTING CONCEPT
DECISION THANK YOU GREAT ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES SUPPORT.
AND SHE NINE NOW LET'S MOVE TO
OPPOSITION ARE THERE WITH THIS
IS HERE IN TWELVE HUNDRED WHO
ARE IN OPPOSITION. OF SB SIX
SEVEN FIVE FIVE. SHE NINE
MODERATE LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES WITH THIS IN SUPPORT OF.
OR AND OR IN OPPOSITION SB SEVEN
FIVE FIVE. ENGLISH JERRY IF YOU
WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF SB FIVE FIVE
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AND JUST MOMENTS
CHAIR WHERE WE GATHER THE LINE
NUMBER.
GOAL LINE NUMBER TWO FIFTY
PLEASE GO AHEAD. NANCY HABER OR
THREE FIFTY BAY AREA ACTION IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU NEXT
CALL. MR HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN
QUEUE AT THIS TIME GREAT WILL
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS IT'S BEEN
MOVED. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A DO
PASS AS AMENDED CENTER BACK ARE
YOU TAKING ALL THE MEMBERS HERE
ON THIS BILL. YES WE WILL BE
EXCEPTIONAL AMENDMENTS OKAY. ALL
RIGHT ON WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE. THANK YOU FOR THE
CONSIDERATION THAT WITNESSES WHO
CAME UP WITH THE IDEA SAID MORE
ELOQUENTLY THAN I COULD I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU KNOW JUST STATE TO
AMENDMENTS LIMIT TO SEE SHE'S
DEVELOPMENT OF ONLINE
APPLICATION PROCESS TO ONLY SEE
SEE A MINISTER PROGRAMS AND
AUTHORIZE SEE. CC TO POST LINKS
ARE TO NON D. C. PROGRAMS
REQUIRE THE USE OF ONLINE PORTAL
REQUIRES TO CUSTOMERS CONSENT
SIMILAR TO THAT REQUIRED BY S.
B. TWELVE HUNDRED A TWELVE ALL
EIGHT BY FOUR- SENATOR AWAY SO.
WE'RE OUT ANY ADDITIONAL-
COMMENTS CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON AS FEES- SEVEN FIVE
FIVE. BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE A
DOLLY ASHBY BAKER HI BAKER I
CABALLERO DODD. DODD AYE DURAZO
. EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE GONZALEZ
GROW. GROVE I MCGUIRE MEN. MAN I
NEWMAN. NEWMAN AYE RUBIO SEYARTO
SKINNER. SKINNER AYE STERN.
STERN AYE WILK RIGHT WILL DIE.
THAT MEASURES OUT TEN THE TWO
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN TEN TEN
TEN ZERO OKAY TEN ZERO THAT
MEASURES OUT- SOONER EGGMAN'S
GRACEFUL ENOUGH TO ALLOW YOU TO
PRESENT YOUR SECOND BILL SO- GO
AHEAD AND PRESENT AS BEFORE TWO
ZERO. WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT- I
WILL I WANT TO THE PREAMBLE
BECAUSE IT THIS IS COMPLEMENTARY
CENTER UP INDIA'S BILL ABOUT THE
NEED FOR TRANSMISSION. I'LL JUST
SAY WHAT THIS BILL DOES
SPECIFICALLY IT MAKES TWO
CHANGES TO THE TRANSMISSION
PROCESS TO REDUCE GREEN TAPE FOR
TRANSMISSION LINES ONE REQUIRES
AN AGENCY DESIGNATED BY THE
GOVERNOR TO QUALIFY TRANSMISSION
PROJECTS NECESSARY FOR
CALIFORNIA RELIABILITY
REQUIREMENTS AND CLEAN ENERGY
TARGETS AS QUOTE ENVIRONMENTAL
LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
FOR THESE PROJECTS. THE BRUTAL
PROCESS WILL BE SHORT IN TWO
WAYS FIRST LAWSUIT CHALLENGING
THESE PROJECTS SEEK REVIEW MUST
BE RULED ON TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY
DAYS AFTER FILING. AND SECOND
THESE PROJECTS OR RECEIVE A
REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION I WAS THE
SET THE SET CITY IN THE CQC'S
CERTIFICATION A PUBLIC NECESSITY
AND CONVENIENCE REVIEW SUBJECT
TO THE ICE SHOWS BOARD APPROVAL.
AT THIS TO PREVENT THE PC FROM
RE DOING ECONOMIC ANALYSIS
THAT'S ALREADY DONE. AT OKAY SO
THESE TWEAKS WILL HELP SPEED THE
PERMITTING PROCESS AND GET US
THE TRANSMISSION THAT WE
DESPERATELY NEED. I WITH THAT- I
RESPECTFULLY ASK DRUG WOULD HAVE
ALEX JACKSON FOR MAKING CLEAN
POWER ASSOCIATION. ARE YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES PLEASE GOOD EVENING
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS OUR
JACKSON WITH AMERICAN CLEAN
POWER CALIFORNIA WE ARE A MULTI
TECHNOLOGY. TRADE GROUP
REPRESENTING UTILITY SCALE
RENEWABLE ENERGY DEVELOPERS
BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD TODAY FROM
CENTER BACK ON THE CONVERSATION
SB SIX ONE NINE. WE NEED TO GET
MOVING ON TRANSMISSION. AND THAT
IS A MULTI PRONGED EFFORT BUT
ONE OF THE CLEAR AREAS OF WORK
IS REGARDING PERMITTING. I THINK
IT'S MISTER BECKER OUTLINED- TO
WEEKS IN THIS BILL THAT MAY
COMMENTS FOR THAT WILL SPEED UP
APPROVALS OF NEEDED TRANSMISSION
PROJECTS ONE DEALING WITH
DUPLICATIVE ECONOMIC REVIEW
CURRENTLY REQUIRED BY THE PUCT
AND CHI SO. IN OUR VIEW THIS
EXTRA STEP IS INCREASINGLY
UNNECESSARY GIVEN THE NOW
TIGHTER COORDINATION BETWEEN
THOSE AGENCIES ON BOTH RESOURCE
PLANNING IN TRANSMISSION
PLANNING. BUT SHIFTING THE
BURDEN OF PROOF AT A MINIMUM
WILL PROVIDE A CLEAR LINE OF
SIGHT TO GET PROJECTS APPROVED.
THE SECOND IS ABOUT JUDICIAL IN
A MINISTRY LINING FOR PROJECTS
BY MAKING- GREEDY CARBONIZATION
AND RELIABILITY TRANSMISSION
LINES ELIGIBLE FOR CERTIFICATION
AS SO CALLED ENVIRONMENTAL
LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
I'M NOT I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE
TO EVALUATE WHETHER E. L. D. P.
CERTIFICATION PROVIDES THE BEST
MEANS TO THOSE ENDS- OR THERE'S
A BETTER APPROACH FOR
TRANSMISSION LINES BUT WE
CERTAINLY NEED TO GET THE
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS DONE
QUICKER ALONG WITH BERMAN.
MEMBERS ARE ENERGY PLAN ASK FOR
A DOUBLING OF ENERGY CAPACITY IN
THE NEXT TWO DECADES WE'RE NOT
GOING TO GET THERE IF IT TAKES
MORE THAN A DECADE TO ADD A
SINGLE LINE WE CORTES
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE
TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO
XIN WITNESSES SUPPORT YOUR NAME
AND ORGANIZATION PLEASE. MR
MEMBERS JOHN WHITE WITH CLEAN
POWER CAMPAIGN WE SUPPORT THE
BILL. GENESIS TANGLE BEHALF OF
CLEANER CASPER'S IN STRONG
SUPPORT. IN ADDITION WITNESSES
SUPPORT. WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
. YOU HAVE TO MEANT. THANK YOU
GOOD AFTERNOON THE CLEARNESS
WITHIN YOUR GAS AND ELECTRIC WE
SUBMITTED AN OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED. LETTER BUT WHEN I THINK
THE AUTHOR AND HIS- STAFF FOR
WORKING WITH US- WE AGREE WITH
THE PROBLEM STATEMENT WITH THE
WITH THE WITH THE INTENT IN THE
ISSUE OF PERMITTING ON WE DID
RAISE CONCERNS WITH. A
POTENTIALLY- DO DUPLICATING ARM
OR A CREATING DELAYS IN THE
PROCESS GIVEN THIS NEW. THIS NEW
APPROACH. ON THE COMEDIAN ELSE'S
DID RAISE SOME GOOD POINTS AND
SOME STRONG POINTS AND WE ARE
COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO WORK
WITH OF THE AUTHOR AND THE
SPONSORS- TO- FOR SOME
MEANINGFUL PRODUCT PROCESS FIX
THIS IN WITH THAT. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO REMOVING OPPOSITION
IN THE FUTURE SO THANK YOU.
GREAT ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE.
HERE IN ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED SEEN
NONE MODERATE LET'S GO TO OUR
PHONE LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT AND OR OPPOSITION. OF
S. B. FOR TWENTY. IF YOU WISH TO
PICK A SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF
SB FOUR TWENTY PLEASE PRESS ONE
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE'LL GO
TO LINE TWO FIFTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. TWO FIFTY ONE YOUR LINE
IS OPEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. OKAY
WE'RE GONNA WANT TO FIFTY TO
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THIS IS NANCY
HEBERT FOUR THREE FIFTY BAY AREA
ACTION IN SUPPORT. M. LINE TWO
OH SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE
FEELING IS ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIANS THEM ONTO VOTERS
CALLING ON BOARD OTHER BEFORE
TWENTY. AND WILL TRY BACK WITH
LINE TO FIFTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU MELISSA CORTEZ
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA WIND
ENERGY ASSOCIATION WITH THE
LETTER OF CONCERN BUT WITH THE
AMENDMENTS TAKEN WILL BE MOVING
INTO A SUPPORT POSITION. RIGHT
YOU NEED TO SHARE HAVE NO ONE
ELSE IN Q. OKAY WHO BRING BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO US
BEFORE TWENTY. IT'S BEEN MOVES
BY A SENATOR MAN- MAKE SURE I
MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT I'M
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS YOU'RE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS WHICH STATE THE LEAD
REFERENCE TO IN CONSULTATION
WITH NOW TO RESOURCES AGENCY
ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH. ACTIONS
AND S. B. EIGHT FOUR SEVEN WHICH
IS THE DODD BILL FOR MARCH YEAR
BY MOVING THE LANGUAGE RELATED
TO REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION TO
PUC'S COLD FOUR FIVE FOUR DOT
FIFTY THREE SEPARATE YES THANK
YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS AS A MINUTE
PLEASE CONSULT AND PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. BRADFORD I WOULD LIKE
CLOSE. ASTRONOMICAL OKAY ARE.
BRADFORD ALL RIGHT BRADFORD AYE
DALY ASHBY BECKER RIGHT BAKER I
CABALLERO DODD. DURAZO EGGMAN.
EGGMAN AYE GONZALEZ GROVE. GROVE
I'D MCGUIRE MEN. MAN I NEWMAN
NEWMAN AYE RUBIO SEYARTO SKINNER
. ALL RIGHT SKINNER AYE STERN
STERN AYE WILK RIGHT WILK I. HAS
NINE. AND I'LL DODD I. CONSIDER
THE MEASURE HAS TEN VOTES WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR THE
ABSENT MEMBERS THANK YOU SENATOR
BAKER. NOW WE'RE MOVING BACK TO
CENTER EGGMAN SHE HAS TWO ITEMS
TO SPRUCE UP IS FILE ITEM NINE
S. B. THREE FIVE FIVE. WHEN
YOU'RE READY CENTER YOU MAY
BEGIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE-
ZERO THREE FIVE FIVE IS A IS A
UPDATE TO A BILL I DID IN TWENTY
SEVENTEEN- IT'S A DIFFERENT BILL
BUT THIS HAS TO DO WITH SO MUCH
AS A BILL I DIDN'T TWENTY
FIFTEEN I BELIEVE- TWENTY
SEVENTEEN I DID A WHILE AGO- BUT
HAVING TO DO WITH A BILLION
DOLLARS FOR LOW INCOME MULTI
FAMILY HOUSING. SO THAT LOW
INCOME FOLKS CAN ALSO REALIZE
THE DREAM OF HAVING THEIR RATES
REDUCED BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOLAR
ON THE WRIST ROOFTOP IT WAS SLOW
ROLLING OUT BY THE AGENCIES
INVOLVED- AND SO AS IT'S ROLLED
OUT ITS IT IS STILL NOT FULLY-
USED UP AND SO WE'RE EXPANDING
THAT TO ALSO INCLUDE TRIBE
TRIBAL LANDS- NEW CONSTRUCTION-
AND THE AMOUNT OF INCOME THAT
PEOPLE HAVE. THAT THEY CAN
QUALIFY FOR THAT TODAY WITH ME
TODAY TO TESTIFY AS ROCKY
FERNANDES WITH THE CENTER FOR
SUSTAINABLE ENERGY AND ANDREW
DAWSON WITH THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING PARTNERSHIP AND WILL BE
BRIEF ALL RIGHT YOU HAVE TO MOST
WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL.
BERNATH GOOD AFTERNOON TO THE
CHAIR THE COMMITTEE AND THE
COMMITTEE STAFF MY NAME IS ROCKY
FERNANDES AND I'M WITH THE
CENTER FOR SUSTAINABLE ENERGY.
WE'RE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
SENATE BILL THREE FIFTY FIVE. AS
A MEMBER OF THE PROGRAM
ADMINISTRATION TEAM FOR THE
SOLAR ON MULTIFAMILY AFFORDABLE
HOUSING- SO MY PROGRAM. CSE HAS
NUMERICAL IN ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE
WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT BARRIERS
ARE EXCLUDING CALIFORNIANS FROM
THIS IMPORTANT PROGRAM. I'M
HAPPY TO REPORT THAT. WITH
HUNDREDS OF THE SITE WITH
THOUSANDS OF ACTIVE IN COMPLETED
APPLICATIONS YOU'RE CURRENTLY AT
21% OF THE THREE HUNDRED
MEGAWATT COAL. HOWEVER IN ORDER
TO MEET THAT CAPACITY. UNDER
CURRENT LAW WE ESTIMATE THAT WE
NEED ROUGHLY FIFTY FOUR PERCENT.
OF IDENTIFIED ELIGIBLE
PROPERTIES IN THE STATES TAKE
PART IN THE PROGRAM. THAT'S A
BIG ASK. THE SUMMER PROGRAM
WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT FROM AN
EXPANDED POOL OF ELIGIBLE
PROPERTIES. IN THE ELIMINATION
OF BARRIERS TO SUPPORT THE
COMMUNITIES IT SO MY PROGRAM WAS
DESIGNED TO SERVE WHICH IS WHAT
SENATE BILL THREE FIFTY FIVE SIX
TO DO. FURTHER MORE DATA
REGARDING. BECAUSE THEY DID NOT
MEET THE ELIGIBILITY UNDER THE
CURRENT LAW. SHOW THAT HALF OF
THOSE PROJECTS COULD MOVE
FORWARD WITH SENATE BILL THREE
FIFTY FIVE IN PLACE. LET'S BRING
THOSE INTERESTED PARTIES BACK
IN. AND PROVIDE THE SAME
OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROPERTIES ACROSS THE
STATE. EXPENDING SO MUCH TO IN
INCOME ELIGIBILITY PULL THAT
MATCHES SEVERAL OTHER STATE AND
FEDERAL PROGRAMS. ALONG WITH
TRIBAL MASTER METERED AND PUBLIC
HOUSING AGENCY PROPERTIES. WILL
HELP FURTHER PROGRESS IN
EXTENDING THE HEALTH AND
FINANCIAL BENEFITS OF SOLAR
TOWARD MULTI FAMILY AFFORDABLE
HOUSING COMMUNITIES AND CREATE
MORE JOBS DOING THIS ESSENTIAL
WORK. WE THANK SENATOR EGGMAN
FOR THIS BILL AN URGENT AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU THERE TO WITNESS
. I AM INTRODUCTION THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSING PARTNERSHIP
THE CALIFORNIA HOUSING
PARTNERSHIP IS A PRIVATE
NONPROFIT THAT WAS ACTUALLY
CREATED BY THE STATE IN NINETEEN
EIGHTY EIGHT WITH THE PUBLIC
MISSION OF INCREASING. THE
SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE AND
SUSTAINABLE HOUSING FOR LOW
INCOME TENANTS I'LL KEEP THIS
BRIEF THIS BILL. IS A GREAT BILL
FOR AT PUTTING SOLAR ON
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT
ALIGNS. WITH SOME OF THE
PROGRAMS ALREADY EXIST AS WELL
AS EXPAND ELIGIBILITY AND CREATE
SOME CLARIFICATION AMONG WHAT
CAN WHAT CAN BE WHAT HOUSING CAN
BE INVOLVED. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF. THIS MEASURE SB
THREE FIVE FIVE YEAR IN ROOM
TWELVE HUNDRED SEEN NONE NOW
LET'S GO TO OPPOSITION WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION S. B. THREE FIVE
FIVE. SHE NINE. MODERATOR LET'S
GO TO OUR PHONE LINE TO SEE IF
THERE'S INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
TESTIFY EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION OF SB THREE FIVE
FIVE. SURELY EVEN THOUGH MANY OF
YOUR IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO ON
YOUR PHONE. ONCE AGAIN THAT'S
FOR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION ONEDIN
ZERO. HEY WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY Q.
ONE APPEARED TO BE JUST A MOMENT
. HEY IN OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT
ONE AND ZERO. I APOLOGIZE TO
GETTING THEIR PHONE THEIR LINE
NUMBER HERE ALL RIGHT SO WE WILL
NOW GO TO LINE NUMBER. TWO FIFTY
THREE. TWO FIFTY THREE YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. IT IS ALSO A QUEUE SO
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN
THE QUEUE AS OF RIGHT NOW. OKAY
WILL BRING BACK TO COMMITTEE.
CENTER MEANT. I THINK THIS A
GREAT BILL IT'S AN IMPORTANT
PRIORITY AND- ONE OF THE CO
AUTHORS THE APPROPRIATE TIME
WOULD MOVE IT. THANK YOU RIGHT
WE HAVE A MOTION CENTER DOT YEAH
I JUST WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A- SOME WE
SHOULD CONSIDER WE'LL GET IT IF
THIS PROGRAM. REALLY WORKS- AND
THIS HELPS BOOST IT UP YEAH I'M
FINE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S YOUR
ALLOWING PEOPLE PARTICULARLY LOW
INCOME PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE GREEN
TRANSITION IS INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT. BUT I REALLY WONDER
IF AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT
WE'RE DOING SO MUCH UTILITY.
GRADE TYPE THE SEWER AND THAT'S
MORE COST EFFECTIVE IF THIS IF
THERE'S A REASON WHY THE- IF THE
IF THERE'S A REASON WHY THIS
PROGRAM IS FALTERING IN THE
FIRST PLACE BECAUSE- YOU KNOW.
IT JUST DOESN'T YOU KNOW PERHAPS
PENCIL OR THE NEED JUST REALLY
ISN'T THERE I'D I'D LIKE YOUR
COMMENTS ON YEAH NO I THINK
PARTLY IT WAS IT TOOK SO LONG TO
ROLL OUT THE AGENCY TOOK FOR
EVER TO DEVELOP THE REGULATIONS
TO GET IT. SO IS ONLY BEEN IN
EXISTENCE NOT AS LONG AS FROM
WHEN IT WAS FIRST AUTHOR TO IT
TOOK A LONG TIME. AND THEN IT
WAS JUST BECAUSE IT WAS LIMITED
JUST TO MULTI FAMILY IT INCOMES
ALREADY ALREADY CONSTRUCTED SO
THAT WAS ANOTHER BARRIER TO IT
TO THIS EXPANDS THE POOL AND TO
BE ABLE TO MEET THE DEADLINE
WITHIN THE TIMELINE. THANK YOU
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS HERE. NINETY NINE
CERTAIN WHICH LIKE CLOSE YOU
HEARD IT HERE TO GREAT BILL
ASPREY ABOUT. WE HAVE A MOTION
BY CENTER MEN WE HAVE A TO PASS
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS YOU
ARE ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENT I CERTAINLY AM. OKAY
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON SP FIVE FIVE FIVE FOLLOWING
OR NOT. SB THREE FIVE FIVE
BRADFORD. BRADFORD AYE A DALLY
ASHBY BAKER. CABALLERO DODD.
DIED I'D DORADO EGGMAN. RIGHT
EGGMAN AYE AGAIN SALAS GROVE.
MCGUIRE MAN. MEN AYE NEWMAN.
NEWMAN AYE RUBIO C. R. TWO
SKINNER. STERN STERN AYE WILK NO
WILK NO. SIX ONE. THE MEASURE
HAS SIX VOTES WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO
ADD ON. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO
YOUR SECOND ITEM S. FEES SEVEN
FOUR SIX SB SEVEN FOUR SIX IS
ALSO ANOTHER. UPDATE ANOTHER
BILL I DID SOME TIME BACK-
CONCERNING THE VALLEY LINK WHICH
IS A- A REAL SYSTEM THAT WILL
CONNECT- ARE A STRAIN WITH OUR
BART TRAIN AND RELIEVE A HUNDRED
THOUSAND PEOPLE OF SITTING ON
THE ALTAMONT EVERY DAY GOING
BACK AND FORTH TO WORK- AND SO
THIS JUST SIMPLY ADDS HYDROGEN
TO THE ALTERNATE. FUELS FOR
WHICH PUBLIC AGENCIES ARE
AUTHORIZED TO ENTER INTO ENERGY
SERVICE. CONTRACTS SO THAT'S ALL
DOES ADD HYDROGEN ARE WHAT
PEOPLE CAN USE AS COUNTS AS
CLEAN ENERGY AND OUR PROJECT
WILL BE SOLAR SO IT'LL BE GREEN
HYDROGEN AT THIS DOESN'T LIMIT
THAT TO THE REST OF THE STATE
BUT FOR OUR PROJECT IT DOES. AND
I HAVE WITH ME. THAT WILL RETURN
FROM THE DEVRY DIRECTOR OF THE
TRI VALLEY SAN JOAQUIN RAIL
AUTHORITY WHO BE BRIEF WITH HIS
COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. YOU'VE BEEN
INSTRUCTED TO BE BRIEF FOR A
VERY GOOD THAT THANK YOU CHAIR
BRADFORD MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE
AGAIN WILL RETURN DEPUTY
DIRECTOR OF THE TRI VALLEY
SILICON VALLEY REGIONAL RAIL
FORTY WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
THIS AFTERNOON- THIS BILL IS
SIGNIFICANT TO OUR AGENCY AS WE
LOOK TO STRIVE TO BE A MODEL OF
NATIONAL SUSTAINABILITY BOTH
FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL AND-
EQUITY. AS WELL AS ECONOMIC
STANDPOINT. N. AS A- DINNER
EGGMAN MENTIONED- WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING TO DO IS TO ENSURE THAT
THAT TRANSIT DISTRICTS LIKE
OURSELVES ARE ELIGIBLE AND IT.
KIND OF ENTITIES TO BE ABLE
EMPLOYEES THE POWERFUL TOOLS
BEHIND THE ENERGY CONSERVATION
CODE. AND TO ENSURE THAT
HYDROGEN IS AN ELIGIBLE-
ALTERNATIVE ENERGY FORM AS WE
LOOK TO USE IT MOST EFFECTIVELY
IN THE TRANSPORTATION OF THE
PUBLIC ON OUR TRAINS SO THANK
YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
WE URGE YOUR- I HAVE A- THANK
YOU. THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES SUPPORT PLEASE STATE
YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION.
RESEARCHER MIKE MULLIGAN ON
BEHALF OF BUILDING AND
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU THE QUICKNESS
. GU'S COREY SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY
REGIONAL POLICY COUNCIL IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE AROUND
ON YOUR IN SUPPORT. SHE NINE
WITNESSES NOW IN OPPOSITION
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION CHIU. SB
SEVEN FOUR SIX YEAR IN AROUND
TWELVE HUNDRED. SEE NON
MODERATOR LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
LINE FOR WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
AND OR OPPOSITION. TO S. B.
SEVEN FOUR SIX. SURE YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF AT
LEAST SEVEN FOUR SIX. ONE NINE
ZERO ON YOUR PHONE. ONCE AGAIN
IT SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. ONE
NINE ZERO. M. IN JUST ONE MOMENT
HERE WE DO HAVE A FEW QUEUING UP
. HEY WE WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER
TWO FIFTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
DEMEANOR MISTER CHAIRMAN
SENATORS BROADBAND ACROSS.
CALIFORNIA I TYPICAL WHICH IS
PART. THANK YOU AND WE DO NOT
HAVE ANY OTHERS IN THE QUEUE.
THANK YOU WILL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE ANY QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS IT'S BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR GROVES SENATOR STERN.
THANK YOU- JUST QUICK QUESTION.
THE BILL IS LIMITED TO THE THIS
. TRI VALLEY PROJECT OR ITS IT
IS APPLIED TO ALL TRANSIT
AGENCIES TO PULL IT UP PLACE ALL
TRANSIT AGENTS OKAY AND THE
DEFINITION IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED
TO GREEN HYDROGEN THIS COULD BE
HYDROGEN GENERATED FROM GAS OIL
THAT IS CORRECT OKAY SO AS AS
YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
LEGISLATION I HOPE WE CAN.
CONSIDER MAYBE NARROWING THAT OR
OR AT LEAST LOOKING TO PROMOTE
GREEN HYDRANT I KNOW EVEN
SETTLED ON A DEFINITION FOR THAT
BUT- I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT I
DON'T SORT OF BACKDOOR THAT
PROCESS THROUGH THIS SO. I'LL BE
SUPPORTING DAVID OF TO CONSIDER
THAT THANK YOU THANK YOU SIR.
THANK YOU ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSIONS OUR DEBATE ON THIS
ITEM AND SHE NONE CENTER EGGMAN
WHICH LIKE CLOSE JUST THANK YOU
VERY MUCH WE JUST FOUND OUT
TODAY WE GOT. THE FIRST STATE
MONEY TWENTY FOUR MILLION FOR
THIS PROJECT TO LET'S KEEP THE
TRAINS RUN ON TIME I ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE. OKAY WE HAVE A DO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
BRADFORD. BRADFORD I'D DALLY
ASHBY BAKER. CABALLERO CABALLERO
AYE DODD. DIED I DRAWS- EGGMAN.
EGGMAN I GONZALEZ GROVE GROVE
AYE MCGUIRE MEN. MEN AYE NEWMAN.
NEWMAN AYE RUBIO SEYARTO C. R.
TWO AYE SKINNER. STERN STERN AYE
WILK RIGHT WILK HI. ZERO TEN IS.
THE MEASURE HAS TEN VOTES TWO
THOUSAND UP TO GET OUT WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS TO ADD ON NOW WILL MOVE
ON THE FOLLOWING FOURTEEN SB.
SIX SIX FOUR BY SENATOR STERN.
THANK MISTER CHAIR- I'LL BE
BRIEF- WE'RE WE'RE GONNA BE
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS FROM
THE COMMITTEE TODAY. AND THIS
BILL ESSENTIALLY BUILDS ON THE
WORK WE DID IN SESSION LAST YEAR
WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP THE
LIGHTS ON- AND MAINTAIN
RELIABILITY IN THE STATE WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MODELING
ALL POSSIBLE SCENARIOS. FOR
EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS.
INCLUDING WHEN TIMES WHEN ENERGY
GENERATION IS DOWN I'M SO
HOPEFULLY THE BILL WITH ITS
REMAINING PROVISIONS WILL STILL
ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS WHILE
PROVIDING SOME EXPANSIVENESS TO
HOW WE LOOK OUT 220-132-2040
FIVE AS WE- LOOK TO ACHIEVE OUR
SB ONE HUNDRED GOALS IN THE
NEWLY REFINED. VERSIONS OF THOSE
WITH SB ONE TWENTY I WITH ME
HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL I BELIEVE IS- JOHN WHITE
WITH THE CLEAN POWER CAMPAIGN AS
WELL AS OTHERS. THANK YOU THANK
YOU THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO
MEANT TO SECURE MEMBERS JOHN
WHAT WITH THE CLEAN POWER
CAMPAIGN WE SUPPORT THIS BILL-
AND WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
CALIFORNIA'S MODELING AND
PLANNING. OF BE UP TO SNUFF AND
CONSIDER ALL THE SCENARIOS THAT
WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING A
PARTICULARLY THE EXTREME HEAT
SCENARIOS- THAT ARE RARE BUT CAN
THROUGH THE WHOLE SYSTEM OUT OF
WHACK SO WE WERE DISAPPOINTED
BUT- THE AMENDMENT THAT OF. THE
COMMISSION SYSTEM BECAUSE WE
REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AT
SOME POINT. FOR THE S. B. ONE
HUNDRED PROCESS TO CONSIDER A
BROADER RANGE OF ASSUMPTIONS AND
SCENARIOS IN LIGHT OF THE
CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS. THAT
CALIFORNIA IS EXPERIENCING WE
DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE TEXAS
WHERE THEY DON'T CONSIDER THESE
OTHER WIND OF. EXCUSE ME IS
OTHER WEATHER RELATED STRESSES
ON THE SYSTEM. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE
OUR PLANNING BE ROBUST ENOUGH TO
BE ABLE TO TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION THE SCENARIOS THAT
WE'RE LIKELY TO FACE BUT IN THE
MEANTIME THE BILL STILL HAS
MERIT AND WE LIKE TO SEE IT MOVE
SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT
AND URGE AND I VOTE. THANK YOU
THE QUICKNESS TO STATE YOUR NAME
AND ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MR CHAIRMAN MY NAME IS DAN
JACOBSON WITH ENVIRONMENT
CALIFORNIA WE'D LIKE TO ALIGN
OUR COMMENTS THOSE WITH JOHN
WHITE. WE THINK THIS IS STILL A
GOOD BILL AND URGING A VOTE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT YOUR IN ROOM TWELVE
HUNDRED. SHE NINE KNOWLEDGEABLE
TO WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION- SB.
SIX SIX FOUR. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAMBERS NIGGLING THAT ON THIS
IS INDIA GAS ELECTRIC I WANT TO
THANK THE OTHER FOR ACCEPTING
THE COMMITMENTS WHAT THEY'LL BE
REMOVING OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. PATRICK
WELCH WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SPEEDILY SENSATION JUST ECHO MY
CALL CONTINUE GAS ELECTRIC
REMOVE IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION HERE IN
ROUND TWELVE HUNDRED. C. NINE
MODERATE LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
LINE FOR WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF SB SIX SIX FOUR.
IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF SP SIX SIX FOUR IT
IS ONE NINE ZERO. ONCE AGAIN
THAT IS IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. ONE NINE ZERO. IN
SURE WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY
QUEUING UP. ALL RIGHT WE'LL
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AS IT
RELATES TO THIS MEASURE HERE.
MOVE THE BILL. IT'S BEEN MOVED
BY SENATOR WELCH. ALL RIGHT ANY
FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS.
AND YOU HAVE STATED YOU WILL BE
TAKING ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMONS
OKAY. A WE HAVE A DO PASS AS A
MINUTE TO APPROPRIATIONS SENATOR
STERN WHICH ELECT CLUTCH YES
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
APPRECIATE THE TESTIMONY AND- I
DO HOPE GOING FORWARD THAT. WE
THINK THROUGH THE WORST CASE
SCENARIO AND IT MAY NOT BE-
EXACTLY WHAT THE BILL IT
ARTICULATED OF A ONE IN TEN OR
ONE IN TWENTY. BUT THAT WE'RE
WILLING TO EXPAND OUR THINKING
OF WHAT THE FUTURE'S GOING TO
LOOK LIKE AND THAT IT COULD GET
HOTTER OR AN ATMOSPHERIC RIVER
CASE WHETHER THE WE'VE BEEN
ANTICIPATING SO WE WANT TO BE
BRAVE IN OUR MODELING. AND WE
ALSO HOPE THAT D. W. ARE GOING
FORWARD LOOKS AT PROCUREMENT
WITH THE STRATEGIC RESERVE IN A
WAY THAT DOESN'T JUST DEFAULT TO
GAS. THAT WAS NOT THE DEAL
LEGISLATURE STRUCK LAST YEAR WE
HOPE THAT GOING FORWARD- THOSE
SUGGESTIONS IN THE ORIGINAL
LEGISLATION CONTINUE TO BE. A
CORE- PRIORITY OF THE
LEGISLATURE- AND HOPEFULLY I
SEEN THROUGH BY THIS
ADMINISTRATION WITH THAT
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. THANK
YOU CAN WE HAVE A TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
ON SB SIX SIX FOUR BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE DALY CASH B.
BECKER. CABALLERO AYE DODD. DODD
AYE DERISIVE- EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE
AGAIN SALAS GROVE. MCGUIRE MAN.
MAN I NEWMAN. NEWMAN AYE RUBIO
SEYARTO C. R. TO AYE SKINNER
STERN HI STERN AYE WILK HI WILL
GUY. THAT MEASURE HAS NINE VOTES
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON NOW
LET'S MOVE ON THE FOLLOWING
FIFTEEN. SB SEVEN EIGHT ONE
SOONER STERN YOU MAY BEGIN I
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR OF BEFORE
I BEGIN I WANT TO. STRESS THAT
I'LL BE ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE REFERRED TO
ON PAGE FIVE OF THE ANALYSIS
FEELER FOLLOWING ALONG- FROM-
FROM A- A FOR A FIRMER
REQUIREMENT. ON RAND PROCUREMENT
TO AN ENCOURAGEMENT THAT THE
POWER SECTOR TRANSITION A TO LOW
METHANE. NATURAL GAS SUPPLIES
WERE FEASIBLE COST EFFECTIVE AND
IN THE BEST INTEREST OF RATE
PAYERS- I'M LOATH TO MOVE
LEGISLATION TYPICALLY THAT IS IN
ANY WAY TRYING TO ENCOURAGE
NATURAL GAS USE AS YOU AS YOU
ALL MAY. KNOW IN MY HISTORIC
WERE GRAND VALLEY SO CANYON
ANOTHER- GAS RESEARCH SYSTEM BUT
THE FACT IS THAT WE ARE BRING IN
GAS FROM OUT OF STATE AND ALL
OVER THE COUNTRY AND AS WE JUST
HEARD WITH THAT SENATOR GROWS
LEGISLATION OR LOOKING AT THE
IMPACTS OF OIL- BEYOND OUR
BORDERS. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THERE'S AN INCENTIVE
FOR INDUSTRY SAY IN PENNSYLVANIA
TEXAS OR QATAR. TO BE USING GOOD
LOW EMISSIONS WORK- WHEN THEIR-
EITHER DEVELOPING GAS SUPPLIES.
A SHIPPING THEM HERE AND THAT WE
CAN FINALLY GET TO THESE ELUSIVE
FUGITIVE EMISSIONS- SO I DO
APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE
COMMITTEE- AND I HOPE THAT- THIS
BILL IS. ONE MORE THUMB ON THE
SCALE AS A AND A BROADER
NATIONAL EFFORT. TO GO AFTER
METHANE WHICH IS THE LARGEST
CURRENT THREAT TO NEAR. TERM
GLOBAL WARMING THAT WE HAVE
THANK YOU. ANY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF SB SEVEN EIGHT ONE
HERE IN THE ROOM YOU HAVE. FOR
YOUR PRIMARY WHAT DOES SUGGEST.
ALL RIGHT YEAH I'M THE PRIMARY
WITNESS YOU HAVE TO MANAGE THANK
YOU ARE MISTER CHAIR- I I'M- THE
WAS SECOND WHEN THIS WILL ONLY
BE TAKING THIRTY SECONDS- SO. IF
THE CAC I CAN TAKE THE REMAINDER
- YOU TAKE TWO MINUTES. I THINK
YOU'RE GONNA LET ME JUST TO TWO
MINUTES OKAY ALL RIGHT SO FAST
HI. GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS TJ
CONWAY PRINCIPAL AT OUR BY- I AM
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF SB
SEVEN EIGHTY ONE CALIFORNIA HAS
A HISTORIC OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE
MEANINGFUL CLIMATE ACTION FOR
THE BENEFIT OF CALIFORNIANS AND
THE WORLD- METHANE LEAKS. ROLE
IN THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS LIKE
FENTANYL'S ROLE IN THE OPIOID
CRISIS METHANE IS A HIGHLY
POTENT GREENHOUSE GAS WITH THE
OVER EIGHTY TIMES THE WARMING
IMPACT OF CARBON DIOXIDE NEAR
TERM. AND OUR METHANE LEAKAGE
PROBLEM IS GETTING WORSE LAST
YEAR THE AMOUNT OF METHANE IN
THE ATMOSPHERE INCREASED FASTER
THAN WE'VE EVER SEEN AND HIT AN
ALL TIME HIGH. METHANE HAS
ACCOUNTED FOR AT LEAST 30% OF
OUR PLANETS WARMING TO DATE. SO
LET'S GET TO THE SOLUTION WE
HAVE RAPIDLY DEVELOPED THE TOOLS
AND CAPACITY CAT CUT METHANE
EMISSIONS IN THE OIL AND GAS
SECTOR. AND CALIFORNIA HAS THE
UNIQUE ABILITY TO ACCELERATE
THIS TREND. WHEN NOTHING IS NOT
LEAKED IT HAS ECONOMIC VALUE IN
AS NATURAL GAS AND ELECTRICITY
AND INDUSTRY. AND BY STOPPING
METHANE LEAKS CONSUMERS AND
PRODUCERS CAN MORE EFFICIENTLY
USE THIS ENERGY SOURCE WHILE
ALSO FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE.
CURBING METHANE LEAKS NOT ONLY
IMPROVES EFFICIENCY OF ENERGY
USE IT IS ALSO PROFITABLE IN
MOST CASES. THE IN INTERNATIONAL
ENERGY AGENCY HAS ASSESSED THAT
80% OF METHANE LEAKS FROM OIL
AND GAS CAN BE FIXED EITHER AT
AT A PROFIT OR ZERO NET COST.
AND WE WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL THE
POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS TO REDUCE
EMISSIONS FROM OUR ENERGY
SYSTEM. CUTTING METHANE IS FAR
MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN MOST. SO
WHY HAVEN'T WE ENDED NOTHING
WEEKS ALREADY. THE ANSWER IS
ACTUALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD FIRST
METHANE IS INVISIBLE AND
ODORLESS MAKING IT HARD TO
DETECT. UNTIL RECENTLY WE HAVE
MADE DRAMATIC PROGRESS IN THE
PAST FEW YEARS IN DEVELOPING
COST EFFECTIVE METHANE DETECTION
AND MEASUREMENT TECHNOLOGIES.
SECOND BUYERS DIDN'T HAVE THE
OPTION TO PURCHASE LOW METHANE
GAS A FEW YEARS AGO. AND NOW
THEY DO AND IT'S STUNNING HOW
QUICKLY CERTIFIED GAS SUPPLY IS
GROWING. SLASHING OIL AND GAS
METHANE EMISSIONS IS TRULY A
WINNER FOR ALL STAKEHOLDERS BUT
WE NEED TO CATALYZING FORCE TO
ACCELERATE THESE TRENDS. AND
THIS IS WHERE CALIFORNIA COMES
IN WITH ITS UNMATCHED MARKET
POWER. NOT ONLY IS CALIFORNIA
THE BIGGEST CONSUMER OF GAS
AFTER TEXAS IT IS ALSO THE
LARGEST IMPORTER WITH 90% OF ITS
GAS SOURCE FROM OUT OF STATE. BY
SUPPORTING THE PURCHASE OF
CERTIFIED LOW METHANE GAS
CALIFORNIA CAN FACTOR IN THE
REALITY THAT THE STATE'S FULL
CLIMATE IMPACT INCLUDES
EMISSIONS FROM PRODUCERS AND
SHIPPERS OUTSIDE ITS BORDERS. IN
DOING SO WE CAN DRIVE CHANGE ALL
THE WAY UP THE VALUE CHAIN YOUR
TWO MINUTE ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. GOOD
AFTERNOON MR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE- ON HOWARD PENN FROM
EXACTLY RECTOR FROM PCL. I'M
HERE TO SUPPORT THE IMPORTANCE
OF SB SEVEN AND EIGHTY ONE IN
THE CLIMATE LANDSCAPE OF OUR
ENERGY USE. AS TJ STATED WE HAVE
THE ABILITY TO DRASTICALLY
REDUCE METHANE LEAKAGE THEY BY
SENDING RESPONSIBLE PRODUCERS.
AND NOT WAITING TILL TWENTY
THIRTY OR SOME FUTURE GOAL
PRIORITIZING METHANE REDUCTION
TODAY. ESPECIALLY FROM IMPORTED
NATURAL GAS. WE'LL PUT
CALIFORNIA NATIONAL LEADERSHIP
POSITION ON THIS ISSUE AND SENT
THE MARKET TOWARDS MORE
RESPONSIBLE METHANE CAPTURE
ACTIONS. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME
TODAY AND I ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
. THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES HERE IN THE ROOM IN
SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE STATE
YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION POURS
. STEVE COONEY ON BEHALF OF THE
PROJECT CANARY IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
HERE IN ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED
HEARING TÍNH NINE NOW LET'S MOVE
TO WITNESSES OPPOSITION
WITNESSES OPPOSITION PLEASE TAKE
YOUR NAME YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES
IF YOU THE PRIMARY WITNESS IN
OPPOSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON
MISTER CHAIR RIGHT IN ENGLAND
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
WE HAD IN OPPOSE POSITION- PRIOR
TO THAT AUTHOR ADOPTING AND
ACCEPTING THESE AT COMMITTEE
MEHMET'S- WILL OBVIOUSLY BE
RECONSIDERING OUR OUR POSITION
BASED ON- EXPERIMENTS AND WE
SUPPORT IT. CAN YOU TO WORK WITH
THE AUTHOR AND YOU KNOW.
EVENTUALLY GET THERE THANKS
THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES HERE AND ROOM TWELVE
HUNDRED IN OPPOSITION. SHE NONE
MODERATE LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND OUR
OPPOSITION TO S. B. SEVEN EIGHT
ONE. IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF SB SEVEN EIGHT ONE
IT IS ONE AND THEN ZERO. ONCE
AGAIN THAT IS IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION FOR SB. SEVEN EIGHTY
ONE ONE NINE ZERO. HEY MISTER
CHAIR WE DO NOT HAVE ANY BODY
KILLING UP. GREAT OR BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOUR BY
THE COMMITTEE. WHO THE BILL
SENATOR DOT. ALL RIGHT SHINO
MORE. WELL THANK YOU SENATOR
I'LL JUST TAKE EXCEPTION TO
COMPARING NOTHING TO THAT NOW-
METHANE IS NOT TOXIC IT'S NOT
DEL IT'S EXPLOSIVE IS
COMBUSTIBLE. BUT IT'S OTOLITHS
TASTELESS AND COLORLESS AND TO
COMPARE THAT TO PHªN NØ I THINK
WAS AN EXAGGERATION SO. ARE WE
PRIVATE METHANE LEAKS IN THIS
ROOM TODAY WHILE WE'VE BEEN HERE
SO- ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO CLOSE. OOPS- ALL RIGHT
JOKES ASIDE FROM. CLIMATE CHANGE
IS NO LAUGHING MATTER. 80% LOWER
METHANE FOR OUR GAS SUPPLY IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA BE THE
EQUIVALENT OF. ABOUT EIGHT
MILLION CARS OFF THE ROAD- THOSE
ARE REAL LIVES- THOSE KIDS
LUNGS- AND I THINK CALIFORNIA
CAN ONLY LEAD IN OUR STATE BUT
SEND THIS MARKET SIGNAL ALL OVER
THIS COUNTRY AND ALL OVER THE
WORLD THAT. HOPEFULLY CAN
TRANSFORM NOT JUST THE WORLD BUT
EVEN THIS ROOM- WITH THAT ARE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AB. THANK
YOU WE HAVE A DO PASSED TO AS
AMENDED. TO APPROPRIATIONS.
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON SB SEVEN EIGHT ONE. BRADFORD
BRADFORD I'D DALLY ASHBY BAKER.
CABALLERO CABALLERO I'D DIED
DODD AYE DERISIVE- EGGMAN.
EGGMAN AYE AGAIN SALAS. GONZALEZ
I GROW. MCGUIRE MEN MEN AYE
NEWMAN NEWMAN AYE RUBIO SEYARTO
SEYARTO NO SKINNER. STERN RIGHT
STERN AYE WILK GO WILK NO. EIGHT
THE MEASURE HAS EIGHT VOTES
EIGHTY TWO WILL LEAVE THE ROLE
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD
ON NOW YOUR FINAL MEASURE SB
FIVE. EIGHT FIVE ONE I THEME IS
CHAIR. VERY BRIEFLY A JOINT
STATE WILL BE ACCEPTING
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS- AND I CAN
JUST STATE THAT THEY'RE IT
ALLOWS FOR NO MORE THAN 5% THE
FUNDS TO BE USED FOR MOBILE
SOURCE SOLAR PLUS STORAGE
STRIKING FINDINGS AND DECORATION
AND THEN RESTORING LANGUAGE
REFERENCING ELECTRIC REPAIR
COSTS AMONG THE GOALS. I'M
ESSENTIALLY THIS BILL IS
DESIGNED TO GET A CRITICAL PIECE
OF OUR SUBSIDY STRATEGY MOVING
S. CHIP THE SELF GENERATION
INCENTIVE PROGRAM WHICH HAS BEEN
OVERHAULED- IN THE RE WORK LAST
YEAR- FOR GENERAL FUND
EARMARKING AND FURTHER PROPOSED
BY THE GOVERNOR THIS JANUARY- TO
HELP LOW INCOME RESIDENTIAL
ADOPTION- HAS NOT BEEN MOVING US
FOR. THOSE FUNDS HAVE ONLY GOING
TO ABOUT 1% OF THE POPULATION
AMONG I OWE YOU CUSTOMERS SO
CURRENTLY S. CHIP IS NOT
BENEFITING THE MOST LOW INCOME
FOLKS SO TO CENTER REGNANS
EARLIER POINT TO HER LEGISLATION
WE THINK ESTATE CAN BE- A REAL
WORK COURSE HERE BUT IT'S GOING
TO TAKE SOME RETHINKING OF HOW
THE PROGRAMS ADMINISTERED AND A
LITTLE MORE EXPANSIVE APPROACH.
AROUND THE TECHNOLOGIES BEING
UTILIZED- NOT EVERY LOW INCOME
PERSON. CAN AFFORD A SOLAR
SYSTEM AND A BATTERY ON THEIR
PLACE- SO- THANK YOU FOR THE
COMMITTEE'S EFFORTS HERE- AND
HOPEFULLY THEY'LL KEEP WORKING
WITH US GOING FORWARD AS WE SEEK
TO REFINE THIS RESPECTFULLY ASK
RIVAL. THANK YOU ANY WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT. HERE IN THE ROOM
FOR. THIS MEASURE. SPC EIGHT
FIVE ONE YOUR PRIMARY WITNESS
YES YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES PATRICK
WELCH CALIFORNIA SPEEDILY
DISASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT-
UNDERSTAND BILL IS BEING SUBS IN
THE AMENDED TODAY APPRECIATE THE
WORK OF THE COMMITTEE. LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR AND THE COMMITTEE THE
PREPARATIONS COMMITTEE TO MAKE
SURE THAT. THIS BILL ULTIMATELY
PROTECTS A PATHWAY FOR FREE
MUNICIPAL OWNED UTILITIES. TO BE
ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY AND
EFFICIENTLY ADMINISTER THESE
FUNDS. IN THE WAY THAT BENEFITS
THEIR CUSTOMERS SMOKING MOST AND
WITH THAT WE RESPECT THE ASTER I
VOTE THANK THANK YOU NICK JONAS
. MEMBERS REBECCA LEE ON BEHALF
OF COAL ZERO THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR BRING THIS MEASURE FORWARD
AND WE ALSO AGREE WITH THE
GOVERNOR'S APPROACH TO FOCUS
STATE FUNDING ON LOW INCOME.
ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE POOR
PENETRATION PARTICIPATION TO
DATE AN EXISTING PROGRAM. AS
WELL AS THE AVAILABLE TAX CREDIT
INCENTIVE THAT IS AVAILABLE
THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
SO HOW HOW TO CRACK THIS HARD TO
REACH SEGMENT IS IMPORTANT
FOCUS. THIS MEASURE IF PASSED
WOULD BE A VALUABLE TOOL TO
ENABLE MORE DEMAND FLEXIBILITY
AND RESILIENCY AS A ENERGY
AFFORDABILITY STRATEGY.
THEREFORE RESPECTFULLY AS FOR
YOUR IPHONE THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS NAME AN
ORGANIZATION PUSH. THE ABERAVON
BEHALF OF ENERGY ENERGY AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
KELLERMAN SAID ON BEHALF OF
CENTRAL COAST ENERGY SERVICES
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT YOUR IN ROOM TWELVE
HUNDRED. SHE NINE NOW LET'S MOVE
TO OPPOSITION ARE THERE
WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM TWELVE
HUNDRED IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
MEASURE. SIGNON MODERATOR LET'S
GO TO PHONE LINES INTO IF
THERE'S WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
OR OPPOSITION TO SB FIVE EIGHT
FIVE ONE. IF YOU ARE IN ORDER
OPPOSITION PRESS. ONE NINE ZERO.
ONCE AGAIN THAT SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION OF SP. EIGHT FIVE ONE
ONE NINE ZERO. AND WE DO HAVE
SOMEBODY THAT'S CUTE APPEARS TO
BE JUST A MOMENT. I'M NOT
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION OF SP.
EIGHT FIVE ONE. N. NEXT WE'RE
GOING TO GO TO NINE NUMBER TWO
FIFTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. I'M
AN ENGINEER YEAH- ON BEHALF
WOULD BE CALIFORNIA GREEN
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANYMORE IN Q.
AREN'T WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNS
COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THIS
MEASURE. SB A FIVE ONE'S BEEN
MOVED BY SENATOR MAN. NO THE
CONDITIONAL QUESTIONS SENATOR
STAR WHICH OUGHT TO CLOSE
RESPECT FAST TRAVEL OKAY WE HAVE
A DO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS I. CENTER YOU
HAVE AGREED TO TAKE ALL THE
MEMBERS THAT'S CORRECT OKAY. I'M
STE OUR ANSWER YOU GUYS ARE HOW
ALL RIGHT NO WE'RE GOOD
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON FILE ITEM. SIXTEEN EIGHT FIVE
ONE. BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE DALLY
ASHBY BAKER CABALLERO HAVE A
YEAR OLD I DODD. DIED I DERIVE
CHAU EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE AGAIN
SALAS GONZALEZ I GROVE. MCGUIRE
MAN MAN I NEWMAN NEWMAN AYE
RUBIO SEYARTO C. R. TÔI SKINNER
STERN STERN AYE WILK RIGHT WILK
AYE. ALL RIGHT THE MEASURE HAS.
PUT TEN VOTES ARE WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO
ADD ON- CONSULTANT NOW LET'S
LOOK TO ROLL ON FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS TO ADD ON AT THIS TIME.
WE WAIT FOR SENATOR MCGUIRE.
LET'S START WITH FOLLOWING ONE.
ZERO OKAY. SB EIGHTY THREE. TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE TEN
ZERO. DALLY CARREIRO. AT. AT
CARRIERA CARRIER I DODD. DODD
AYE GONZALEZ GONZALEZ I MCGUIRE
RUBIO SEYARTO C. R. TWO I'S
SKINNER. TO FOURTEEN THE
MEASURES FOURTEEN WILLIE THE
ROLE OPEN FOR UP TO MEMBERS NEXT
FALL ITEM TO. SB FOUR EIGHT
EIGHT CURRENT VOTE TWO ONE CHAIR
VOTING NO. DALY ASHBY BECKER.
CABALLERO CARRIER I DODD DIED I
DORADO EGGMAN EGGMAN IKE AND
SALAS. MCGUIRE MCGUIRE I. MAN
NEWMAN RUBIO. SEYARTO YOUR TO RA
SKINNER. MCGUIRE HAS A VOTE
CHANGE. TO W. NO MMHM S. B. I
DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. FOUR
EIGHTY EIGHT FOUR EIGHT EIGHT
FALLING TO. ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S
YOUR ACCOUNTANT CAME IN SECOND.
THREE SIX TWO TWO CURRENT VOTE
SIXTY TWO A LIBERAL OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS OUT ON NOW FILE
ITEM THREE. SB SIX ONE NINE
PATEA CURRENT VOTE TEN ZERO DALY
ASHBY. SB I CABALLERO CABALLERO
I GONZALEZ GONZALEZ I A GROWTH
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE RUBIO C. R.
TWO ZERO TÔI. FIFTEEN FIFTEEN
ZERO LIBERAL OPEN PERHAPS A
MEMBERS NEXT UP IS FALLING FOR.
SB EIGHT TWO THREE. CURRENT VOTE
TEN ZERO DOLLY. ASHBY SB I.
CABALLERO CABALLERO I GONZALEZ.
GONZALEZ I MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE
RUBIO SEYARTO CIERTO NOW.
FOURTEEN TO ONE. THE CURRENT
VOTERS FOURTEEN ONE WILL EITHER
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS NEXT
FOLLOWING FIVE. SB EIGHT THREE
SEVEN. CURRENT VOTE TEN ZERO
DALY S. B. SB I CABALLERO
CARRIER I GONZALEZ GONZALEZ AYE
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE MAN. MAN I
HOPE. I MEAN I RUBIO C. R. TWO
C. R. TÔI. SIXTEEN SIXTEEN VOTES
WILL LEAVE THEM MEASURE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON FILE
ITEM SUB. SB FIFTEEN CURRENT
VOTE ELEVEN ZERO DALLY ASHBY SB
I. CABALLERO CAREER I GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ I MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE
RUBIO. SEYARTO C. R. TÔI.
SIXTEEN WE ADDRESS SIXTEEN VOTES
I CHAU WITHOUT SEVEN. SIX OR SIX
THIRTY SIX I SHOULD FOLLOW I'M
SEVEN SO IT'S FILE ITEM SIX SB
FIFTEEN BY GROW SELL AGAIN OFF
VOTE COUNTERS. I'M SORRY.
SIXTEEN TWO ZERO SIXTEEN OH ZERO
NOW WILL MOVE ON TO FILE ITEM
SEVEN NINE. THAT SEVEN IS
MCGUIRE SKILLED WORKERS ARE REAL
GOOD YEAH FILE ITEM NINE ARE
EGGMAN SB THREE FIVE FIVE.
CURRENT VOTE SIX ONE. CHAIR
VOTING I'D DALY. ASHBY HI SB I
BAKER RIGHT BAKER I CABRERO
KEVIN- I DORADO. GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ I MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE
RUBIO C. R. TWO C. R. TONO.
SKINNER. TO ELEVEN TO TWO ELEVEN
TO- FOR A FILE ITEM NARROWLY THE
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS OUT
ON NOW MOVING THE FILE ITEM TN
SB SEVEN FOUR SIX CURRENT VOTE
TEN ZERO DALLY. ASHBY SB I BAKER
RIGHT BAKER I JURADO. GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ I MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE
RUBIO. SKINNER. FOURTEEN
FOURTEEN ZERO WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS.
NOW ON TO FILE ITEM. ELEVEN BY
CENTER BACKREST BEFORE TWO ZERO
CURRENT VOTE TEN ZERO DALLY
ASHBY I SB I KEPT CABALLERO
CAREER I DRESS- GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ I MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE
RUBIO. SEYARTO ZERO I. FIFTEEN
THE MEASURE HAS FIFTEEN VOTES
WILL LEGAL ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS TO ADD ON. NOW IT'S FIVE
SEVEN FIVE FIVE. CURRENT AT TEN
ZERO DALLY. SB OR IS THIS BAKER
SEVEN FIVE FIVE BAKER ITEM
TWELVE. SPI CABALLERO CABALLERO
I DORADO. GONZALEZ GONZALEZ I
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE RUBIO C. R.
TWO ZERO TWO I. THREE THIRTEEN.
WHAT SORRY YES ASSEMBLY MEMBERS
WE HAD. FIFTEEN TWO ZERO FIFTEEN
ZERO LEADER ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. NEXT IS FILE ITEM
THIRTEEN SB FIVE TO SEVEN BY
SENTIMENT CURRENT VOTE SIX TO
CHAIR VOTING I DALY. ASHBY SB I
BAKER. CABALLERO. I JURADO.
GONZALEZ GONZALES AYE MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE AYE RUBIO SEYARTO CIERTO
NO SKINNER. RIGHT RIGHT. BAKER I
. ELEVEN TO THREE CURRENT VOTES
ELEVEN THREE LIBERAL OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS SAT ON FOLLOWING
FOURTEEN PLEASE. SB SIX SIX
FOUR. KERN VOTE NINE ZERO CHAIR
VOTING I'D DALY. ASHBY ASHBY I.
BECKER BAKER I DORADO. GONZALEZ
GONZALES III GROWTH. MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE AYE RUBIO. STE SKINNER.
THIRTEEN TWO ZERO- VOTE THIRTEEN
ZERO WILLIE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS NEXT FOLLOWING
FIFTEEN AS FREE SEVEN EIGHT ONE
. CURRENT VOTE EIGHT TO CHAIR
VOTING I. DALY ASHBY ASHBY I.
BAKER BAKER AYE DURAZO. MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE I GROWTH. RUBIO SKINNER
. SIX ELEVEN TO- VOTE LOVE IN IT
TOO AND OUR FINAL ROUND FILE I'M
- YES GLORIA NO. ZERO IN ON IT
YOUR YOUNG ADULT- I THOUGHT WE
HAVEN'T DONE THE MCGUIRE NO WE
HAVEN'T DONE IT NOW. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT
OUR MEMBERS LET'S LET'S GET OUR
LAST ITEM RIGHT HERE FILE ITEM
SIXTEEN SB EIGHT FIVE ONE
CURRENT VOTE. CURRENT VOTE TEN
ZERO. DALLY ASHBY SB I BAKER
RIGHT BAKER I JURADO GONZALEZ.
GROWTH. OOPS MCGUIRE MCGUIRE I
RUBIO SKINNER. NO WELL. I WAS
NOT AWARE SHE I DON'T HAVE IT
DOWN SORRY FILE ITEM SIXTEEN SHE
WAS- OKAY. THIRTEEN THIRTEEN
ZERO HER ARTFULLY THE ROLE OPEN
NOW WE'RE BACK TO CENTER MCGUIRE
YES TO ITEM CENTER MOVE ARE YOU
PREPARED FILE ITEM SEVEN S. B.
TWO EIGHT SIX. YES SIR. MOVING
THE BILL. THANK YOU SO MUCH I'VE
ALSO BEEN REMINDED BY CENTER
GONZALEZ THAT HUSTLE SO I'D
THANK YOU VERY MUCH I'LL BE VERY
QUICK LONG STORY SHORT- IF WE'RE
SERIOUS ABOUT MEETING OUR CLEAN
ENERGY GOALS HERE IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA WE'RE GONNA HAVE
TO MOVE HEAVEN AND EARTH TO BE
DEPLOYED NEW GREEN GENERATION
FACILITIES AND AT THE SAME TIME
ENSURE ENVIRONMENTAL SAFEGUARDS
REMAIN. TWO EIGHTY SIX REQUIRES
THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL
COMMISSION TO USE ITS
CONSOLIDATE PERMITTING PROCESS
FOR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT
DELIVERING TRANSMISSION OF
OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY PROJECTS
BUT WE FIRMLY BELIEVE THIS WILL
SHAVE OFF A MINIMUM OF THREE
YEARS OFF OF THE PERMITTING
TIMELINE IT ALSO REQUIRES THE
COASTAL COMMISSION TO BRING THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH
AND WILDLIFE. STATE LANDS
COMMISSION OCEAN PROTECTION
COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES FROM
CALIFORNIA FISHING INDUSTRY.
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE
OFFSHORE WIND INDUSTRY FEDERAL
AGENCIES LABOR ENVIRONMENTAL
GROUPS AND NATIVE AMERICAN
TRIBES TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT
TWO YEARS TO BE A GREAT
STATEWIDE STANDARDS TO ENSURE
OFFSHORE WIND DEVELOPMENT AVOID
TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS OCEAN
FISHERIES FINALLY. THIS WOULD
INCLUDE- COMPENSATION FOR LOSS
CARE LOST FISHING GROUNDS-
POTENTIAL INVESTMENTS FOR
FISHERMEN TO STRENGTHEN EXISTING
FLEET TO MAKE IT MORE RESILIENT
WOULD SUPPORT TRIBAL COMMUNITIES
WILL BE IMPACTED BY OFFSHORE
WIND AS WELL AS CREATING A
CAREER TRAINING PROGRAM FOCUSES
FOCUSED ON COMEY'S OF COLOR. AND
NATIVE COMMUNITIES I HAVE WITH
US TODAY MISTER CHAIR. MISTER
MIND AGAIN WITH THE CALIFORNIA
STATE BUILDING TRADES COUNCIL
AND BOW BILLER REPRESENTING THE
PACIFIC COAST FEDERATION OF
FISHERMEN'S ASSOCIATION AND
MISTER CHAIR I ALSO WANT TO TAKE
A MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL
COMMISSION FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP
ON THIS BILL TODAY WE ALSO A
SINGER CHRISTIE LEGISLATIVE
DIRECTOR FOR THE CALLS
COMMISSION A PRESENT AND I JUST
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR FOR HERE IN THE- HEART.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES YOU DON'T
HAVE TO USE ALL OF THEM BUT YOU
HAVE TO IT. ARE YOU SURE I CAN
USE OF ALL- MIKE MONEY GOING TO
BE HALF THE STATE BUILDING AND
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
LEGISLATION BY CENTER MCGUIRE.
THE COUNCIL REPRESENTS ABOUT
HALF A MILLION MEN AND WOMEN IN
THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY
INCLUDING SEVENTY THOUSAND AND
OUR STATE APPROVED
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. OUR
COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE THE ONES
THAT HAVE BUILT THE UTILITY
GRADE SOLAR IN THE CALIFORNIA AS
WELL AS ALL OF OUR LAND BASED-
WINDMILLS WINDMILLS WINDOW
WINDFARMS- YOU KNOW. THIS BILL
IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT BRINGS.
SOME LEADERSHIP INTO THIS ISSUE.
AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT OFF
SHORE WIND IS ONE OF
CALIFORNIA'S GREAT. NATURAL
RESOURCES- I'M SURE WE WILL GO A
LONG WAYS AND- BRING IN MORE
GREEN POWER IN CALIFORNIA. AND
TO OUR OVER BURDENED GRID. I'M
SURE WHEN WE'LL PUT OUR MEMBERS
TO WORK. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT
HAVE WILL BRING CALIFORNIA'S NEW
GENERATION. AND FOR OUR FUTURE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO A NURSE
. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS BOW
BILLER ON BEHALF OF THE PACIFIC
COAST FEDERATION OF FISHERMEN'S
ASSOCIATION OR IN SUPPORT WE
APPRECIATE BEING PART OF THIS
CONVERSATION. I DO NOTE IN THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS THERE'S A
DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING WHAT.
ADEQUATE COMPENSATION MIGHT BE
IN MITIGATION FOR THE COMMERCIAL
FISHING FLEETS. IN AS LONG AS
WERE PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON
WHAT IS ADEQUATE I THINK WE'RE
IN GREAT SHAPE AND WE APPRECIATE
THE LEADERSHIP FROM BOTH THIS
COMMITTEE AND THE AUTHOR OF THE
BILL SO WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT
. GREAT ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
HERE IN THE ROOM IN SUPPORT. OF
THIS MEASURE S. B. TWO EIGHT SIX
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR
POSITION PLACE AN ORGANIZATION-
IN A CRUISE MARTINEZ WITH THE
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF
ELECTRICAL WORKERS LOCAL TWELVE
FORTY FIVE IN SUPPORT. CHARLOTTE
STEVENS IBEW TOUGH FORTY FIVE IN
SUPPORT- RESURGENT ELENE WITH I.
B. W. TWELVE FORTY FIVE IN
SUPPORT. HI JANELLE IBEW TWELVE
FORTY FIVE IN SUPPORT. SHELLFISH
THE I. B. W. TWELVE FORTY FIVE
IN SUPPORT. TYLER WATKINS I B.
W. TWELVE FORTY FIVE IN SUPPORT
. NICK RODRIGUEZ WITH IDW TOP
FORTY FIVE IN SUPPORT. YOU ANY
FURTHER WITNESSES HERE AND
SUPPORT SEEN NINE LET'S GO TO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. YOUR
TWO MINUTE FIRST THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR- BRIAN WHITE ON
BEHALF OF ALL SHOWING CALIFORNIA
WE ARE AN ASSOCIATIONAL FOR WIND
DEVELOPERS AND TECHNOLOGY
PROVIDERS. WHO SUPPORT THE
RESPONSE OF DEVELOPMENT OFFSHORE
WIND. WHICH WE BELIEVE WILL HELP
THE STATE MEET CLEAN ENERGY AND
INCREASE ENERGY RELIABILITY
GOALS I WILL NOTE THAT WE DON'T
HAVE AN OFFICIAL POSITION ON
THIS BILL SO. IT'S NOT NOTED IN
NOW SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A
POSITION. BUT WE DID COME IN THE
SENATE NOT TO RESOURCE COMMITTEE
WHICH THIS BILL I HAVE A LOT
MORE OF THE PROVISIONS IN THIS
BILL WERE OF THE PURVIEW OF THE
NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE. A
WE HAVE BEEN IN THE DISCUSSION
WITH THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND THE
COST COMMISSION ABOUT A BETTER
UNDERSTAND THE BILL WE THINK
THERE ARE SOME- MERIT TO TRYING
TO UPLOAD OR UP FRONT ALL THE
MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO
PROVIDING SOME PERMIT
STREAMLINING- WE ALSO APPRECIATE
THE COMMITTEE'S SUGGESTION TO
REMOVE THE COMPENSATION
PROVISIONS FOR THE BILL WE THINK
THAT'S- OF. JUSTIFIABLE GIVEN
THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO TRY AND
PREJUDGE THE MITIGATION BEFORE
WE ACTUALLY GET THE- THE
MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS FIGURED
OUT. A STREAMLINING THE PERMIT
PROCESS WE THINK OF YOU KNOW
VERY STATE LOCAL AGENCIES WILL
BE INVOLVED IN THIS IN ORDER FOR
THIS INDUSTRY ACTUALLY WORK
THOUGH WE HAD THERE'S A LOT OF
THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. GOT
TO HAVE TRANSMISSION OF TELEPORT
UPGRADE YOU HAVE TO HAVE
PROCUREMENT YOU HAVE TO WORK
FORCE ALL THOSE THINGS TO COME
LIKE A HOUSE OF CARDS. AND SO WE
DON'T UPSET THAT THAT CAREFUL
BALANCE WE NEED TO AB FIVE TWO
FIVE PERMITTING PROCESS. WE'LL
GET SOME OF THESE PERMITTING
ISSUES WE DO WANT TO WORK WITH
THE AUTHOR AND THE INVESTMENT
COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND. HOW TO
GET THE COMPENSATION ADDRESSED
IT RIGHT THERE HAS BEEN EAST
COAST PROJECTS THAT IT
NECESSARILY HAVE LEGISLATION
DONE BUT THEY DID IT THROUGH
MEN- MEMORANDUM ON THE
STANDINGS. AND COMPENSATION
AGREEMENTS- THE FEDERALES
PROCESS WILL ALSO BE DONE
THROUGH THE UP FOR A LOAN
PROCESS. IT WILL BE COMMUNITY
BENEFIT AGREEMENTS THAT WILL BE.
PAID OUT BY THE DEVELOPERS TO
FUND A FISHERMAN. A MITIGATION
SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE ARE IN
THE WORKS. THERE'S THIS ONE
PROVISION THE BILL THOUGH THAT
TALK ABOUT FULL MITIGATION. WILL
NEXT NEXT ON AND WHAT THAT
MEANS. WE DON'T WANT TO JUST A
SINGLE PROCESS BUT- THAT NEEDS
TO BE SPELLED OUT AND- MAKE SURE
THAT THAT WE GET THAT. CLEARED
UP WITH THE WORK OF THE AUTHOR
AND- THE FORTY THE- SEE THIS
BILL. MOVE ALONG THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS. THE
STATE YOUR NAME. DESSERT HI
MOLLY. WITH THE AMERICAN CLEAN
POWER ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA.
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S
RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS. REMOVING
THE PREDETERMINED COMPENSATION
AMOUNTS CERTAINLY IS. HELPFUL
SOMEONE. OFFERING CALIFORNIA WE
DON'T AN OFFICIAL POSITION- BUT
WE APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S.
INVITATION TO CONTINUE WORKING
ON THIS BILL AND DESCRIBE ME AS
A WORK IN PROGRESS. WE THINK
THERE A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS HERE
BUT THERE ARE ALSO. MANY DETAILS
THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH AND
WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. MISTER
MEMBERS ENTRANCE WE ON BEHALF OF
THE PACIFIC. MERCHANT SHIPPING
ASSOCIATION. SUPPORT AND
SUPPORT. FOR I THINK WE ARE A
TECH SUPPORT BY OUR- ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. NO ALL
RIGHT LET'S GO TO A PHONE LINE
FOR WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND OR
OPPOSITION. S. B. TWO EIGHT SIX.
MODERATE YOUR IN ORDER. IF YOU
AREN'T THE BORDER OPPOSITION
PRESS ONE NINE ZERO. NOT A
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION OF S. B.
TWO EIGHT SIX. PRESS ONE THEN
THERE WILL. CAN WE DO NOT HAVE
ANYBODY QUEUING UP MR THANK YOU
LET'S BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AS IT
RELATES TO THIS MEASURE SB TWO
EIGHT SIX. SENATOR COPY OUR-
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER CHAIR
I THINK IT'S A GREAT BILL AND
I'D LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO
WHEN THE- TIME IS APPROPRIATE
AND I WOULD MOVE THE BILL IN THE
TENTH. GRADE AS WELL. CENTER DOT
. ZERO ON THE- B. AS GO OUT THE
WAY IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY. THANK
YOU. AT I'M JUST GONNA
STREAMLINE IT ALL AT MY VOICE TO
THE STATE THANK YOU ARE. FURTHER
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS SEEN
HEARING ON- SOONER BAR WHICH ARE
CLOSE YES AND I WILL OBVIOUSLY
EXCEPT THE COMMITTEE LIMITS I
SHOULD ASSUME THAT THE BEGINNING
SIR- IN LOOK FORWARD TO OUR
CONTINUED WORK TOGETHER AND
GRATEFUL TO THOSE WHO WANT TO.
ADD ON AS CO AUTHORS OF FOR WORK
TOGETHER WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU I
APPRECIATE YOUR EXCEPT IN THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. MEMBERS
WHO WERE TRYING TO GET THROUGH
THIS REAL QUICK WE HAVE A DO
PASS- AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS SB TWO EIGHT SIX
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
READ I'M SORRY. YOU HAVE
SOMETHING. ONE OF OUR FIVE DATA
PMC'S POSITION WAS SUPPORTIVE
AMENDED. I THANK YOU. CONSULTANT
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE DALY ASHBY SB I.
BECKER. BAKER AYE CABALLERO
HEAVIER AYE DODD. DIED I DRESSEL
EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE AGAIN SALAS.
GONZALEZ I A GROWTH. MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE I AM IN. MAN I NEWMAN.
NEWMAN RUBIO I. REVIEW AYE
NEWMAN AYE SORRY SEYARTO C. R.
TO AYE SKINNER. INNER AYE STERN
. STERN AYE FOURTEENS THAT
MEASURE HAS FOR WHAT IT WOULD
NOT WILK- I'M SORRY I'M TRYING
TO DO IT ON THE COMPUTER I'M
SORRY WILK. NO NO NO NO I DID
NOT. NO I'M AND I WILL DIE SORRY
FIFTEEN ZERO. ARE THE MEASURE
HAS FIFTEEN VOTES- FIFTEEN ZERO
ARE WE DO WE HAVE ANY ABSENT
MEMBERS ARE. ALL RIGHT WE'LL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO
ALAS ITEM OF THE EVENING. IT'S
SENATOR MCGUIRE'S FILE ITEM MADE
SB THREE NINETEEN. THANK YOU SO
MUCH MISTER CHAIR ON MAY BE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEES
AMENDMENTS HERE TODAY- LONG
STORY SHORT THIS LEGISLATURE HAS
EXPEDITED THE BUILD OUT OF CLEAN
ENERGY POWER PLANTS. OFF SHORE
ON SHORE WIND GEOTHERMAL AS WELL
AS COMMERCIAL GRADE SOLAR BUT
ONE OF THE BIGGEST SHORTCOMINGS
AT THAT WE'VE HAD IT DO
COMPLICATED SCHOOL- IS AN
ANTIQUATED ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION
SYSTEM IN TOO MANY CASES IN OUR
STATE AND IN PARTICULAR WITHIN.
P. GINNY TERRITORY THE
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM WILL NEED
SIGNIFICANT UPGRADES OR A
COMPLETE REBUILD- FOR FAR TOO
LONG THIS INTEGRATED
INFRASTRUCTURE WAS IGNORED AND
NOW THE OSTRICH IN THE HEAD IN
THE SAND APPROACH HAS COME HOME
TO ROOST WHICH IS WHY WE NEED TO
TAKE AN ALL HANDS. ON DECK
APPROACH ON ISSUES OF
TRANSMISSION HERE'S WHAT THE
BILL DO IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE
THE THREE STATE AGENCIES WHO
FOCUS ON TRANSMISSION CPUC CAL
AYE SO AS WELL AS THE CDC TO
COORDINATE ON TRANSMISSION
PROJECTS REPORT TO THE
LEGISLATURE. ON HOW THE LATEST
HOW THEY'RE WORKING TO MEET OUR
TWENTY FORTY FIVE RENEWABLE GOES
TO IT'S GONNA REQUIRE AGENCIES
PROPOSE AN EXPEDITED. PERMITTING
ROAD MAP WHEN IT COMES TO
TRANSMISSION TO THE LEGISLATURE
THE BILL ALSO REQUIRES UTILITIES
TO ANALYZE CAPACITY CHALLENGES.
ON HOW THOSE UTILITIES ARE GONNA
PROVIDE SERVICE FOR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES ENSURE THAT THEY
HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PROVIDE
POWER ACROSS THEIR SERVICE AREA.
LAST WEEK I'LL USE WOULD BE
REQUIRED TO COORDINATE WITH
LOCALS ON THE FUTURE CAPACITY
NEEDS. JUST BEING HONEST MEMBERS
WE'VE HAD THREE CITIES THREE
CITIES IN OUR DISTRICT AND
HUMBLE COUNTY THAT WERE TOLD BY
P. JEANNIE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE
THE CAPACITY. TO SERVE ANY NEW
GROWTH. ANY NEW GROWTH. OVER THE
NEXT DECADE AND I THINK THAT WE
CAN ALL AGREE THAT SIMPLY
UNACCEPTABLE I WILL SAY. AFTER
SEVERAL MEETINGS PG&E HAS NOW
ADDED TWENTY SIX ADDITIONAL
MEGAWATTS OVER THE NEXT FOUR
YEARS TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT
NEED. SO SB THREE NINETEEN.
MANDATES THAT ALL RESPONSIBLE
PARTIES. COME TO THE TABLE TO
ENSURE THAT CALIFORNIA CAN MEET
OUR NATION LEADING CLIMATE
GOALS. AND TO ENSURE THAT
CALIFORNIANS CAN TRIGGER LIGHTS
ON RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE MAKE YOU MISTER CHAIR.
THREE DO WE HAVE ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES SUPPORT PLEASE STATE
YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION. THIS
CHAIR MEMBERS PLAYER WE HAVE THE
HUMBOLDT COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AS THE AUTHOR NOTED
P. GENIES LITERALLY STUNTING THE
ECONOMIC GROWTH OF ALMOST
COUNTY. HOSPITAL HAS BEEN
DELAYED AND WHEN THE MOST
MEDICALLY NECESSARY OR DESERT
THAT WE HAVE IN CALIFORNIA
PLEASE VOTE FOR THIS BILL THANK
YOU THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. PLEASE
COMPORT STATE YOUR NAME AND
ORGANIZATION PLEASE. THANK YOU
CATHARINE BRANDENBURG ON BEHALF
OF CINEMA CLEAN POWER IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GRAVERS MARTINEZ IBEW
LOCAL TWELVE FORTY FIVE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. CHARLOTTE
STEVENS IBEW TWELVE FORTY FIVE
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. THIS YEAR
CHENELLY WITH I. B. W. TWELVE
FORTY FIVE IN SUPPORT. THE NEW
WITH IBEW TELL FORTY FIVE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MICHELLE THIS
SAID I READ EVERY TWELVE FORTY
FIVE IN SUPPORT. TYLER WATKINS
WITH IBEW TWELVE FORTY FIVE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. NICK
RODRIGUEZ WITH IBEW TWELVE FORTY
FIVE IN SUPPORT GREAT. ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
HERE IN THE ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED
SEEN NONE KNOWLEDGE MOVED
OPPOSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAMBER NUCLEAR MENACE WITH
SANDY- GAS ELECTRIC WE HAD AN
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED POSITION-
WITH THE AMENDMENTS ARE BEING
TAKING ONE LOOK FOR TO WORK IN
THE COMMITTEE ON- ON THE-
LANGUAGE TO REMOVE OPPOSITION
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU.
ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION ARE. WINNERS SEEN
NINE MODERATOR LET'S GO TO OUR
PHONE LINES NOW FOR WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION AND OR SUPPORT. OF SB
. THREE NINETEEN. FOR RATE IF
YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. S. B. S. THREE
NINETEEN PRESS ONE THEN ZERO.
AND ONCE AGAIN IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION SB. THREE NINETEEN
ONE NINE ZERO. HEY WE DO NOT
HAVE ANYBODY QUEUING UP MISTER
CHAIR GREAT WILL BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE DO WE HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS SENATORS
SIAL. ONE REAL QUICK
CLARIFICATION MY INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT INCLUDES BOTH ABOVE GROUND
AND BELOW GROUND INFRASTRUCTURE
CORRECT. YEAH I MEAN I TO BE
HONEST MOST OF THE TRANSMISSION
LINES WOULD BE ABOVE GROUND
ESPECIALLY THOSE LARGER VOLTAGE
TRANSMISSION LINES AND THEY'RE
GONNA NEED TO BE REPAIRED. ON
THE CAPACITY SIDE- IT FORCES ALL
INDIVIDUALS THE TABLE UP WHEN IT
COMES TO INSURING THAT THERE IS
ENOUGH CAPACITY TO SERVE
COMMUNITIES LARGER SERVING
NOTING TO DECIDE HOSPITALS AND
OR JUST BASIC RETAIL COMMERCIAL
WHICH ALSO CHALLENGE WITH. AND
JUST TO COMMENT ON THE PREMISES
AND I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE
FRUSTRATED BUT WHEN A WHEN
UTILITIES ARE ARE NOT ABLE TO
HOOK UP- AND PROVIDE THEMSELVES
WITH MORE CUSTOMERS THAT PAY-
THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A PROBLEM
IN THE SYSTEM AND THERE'S A
PROBLEM WITH THE ACQUISITION OF
SUPPLIES. AND INFRASTRUCTURE THE
STUFF THAT'S NEEDED TO BUILD THE
INFRASTRUCTURE- SO I THINK
THAT'S A HE IS A BIGGER PROBLEM
THAN JUST THE UTILITIES IT'S
ALSO ON OUR SIDE TOO. SO THAT'S
IT THANKS ALL. ANY OTHER. ARE WE
HAVE A TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
CORPORATIONS TO HAVE A MOTION.
CENTER EGGMAN THANK YOU FOR THE
MOTION. SENATE MCGUIRE WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE THANK YOU SO MUCH
AND THAT'S WHY WE ALSO HAVE-
IT'S IN THAT PLANE HERE IN THE
COMING. COUPLE OF YEARS
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION
IT'S- TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
. A THREE NINETEEN YES
CONSULTANT PLEASE. AS AMENDED AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
CONSULTANT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON AS THREE THREE NINETEEN
BRADFORD BRADFORD AYE DALY ASHBY
SB I BAKER. RIGHT BAKER I
CABALLERO CABALLERO AYE DODD.
DIED I DRAWS- DRUGS SO I EGGMAN
EGGMAN AYE GONZALEZ GONZALEZ I
GROWTH MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE AYE MEN
MEN AYE NEWMAN. NEWMAN AYE
RUBIO. RUBIO I SEE R. TWO C. R.
TWO AYE SKINNER. SKINNER AYE
STERN STERN AYE WILK HI WILK I.
SIX TWO ZERO THAT MEASURE HAS
SIXTEEN VOTED IS OUT NOW WE'RE
GONNA LOOK THE WORLD MEMBERS ARE
FOR ALL MEMBERS WHO WERE ABSENT
IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE COMMITTEE
NOW I ASK YOU TO BE HERE. WE'RE
GONNA LOOK TO ROLL STARTING ON
FILE ITEM ONE. RECINE ADD ON.
STARWOOD FILE ITEM ONE PLEASE
CALL OUT TO MEMBERS SB EIGHTY
THREE. CURRENT VOTE FOURTEEN
ZERO. MCGUIRE MCGUIRE AYE RUBIO
AYE RUBIO AYE SKINNER. SKINNER
HI. SEVENTEEN THAT MEASURE HAS
SEVENTEEN VOTE IT IS OUT. NEXT
UP FILE ITEM TO. SB FOUR EIGHT
EIGHT ALTERADO GIL CURRENT VOTE
SIX TO SHARE VOTING NO. ASHBY.
BAKER RIGHT. BAKER I. DURAZO.
THANK YOU GONZALEZ. OKAY OKAY
OKAY. ALL RIGHT RUBIO. SKINNER.
SEVEN TWO TWO SEVEN TWO. A
MEASURE FAILS WILL GRANT
RECONSIDERATION. ALL RIGHT NEXUS
FILE ITEM THREE POLLUTION. M. SP
SIX ONE NINE PAIDEIA CURRENT
VOTE FIFTEEN ZERO GROWTH RUBIO
HI RUBIO I. SIXTEEN SIXTEEN ZERO
THAT MEASURES OUT. THE FOLLOWING
. FOR SB EIGHT TWO THREE CURRENT
VOTE FOURTEEN ONE CHAIR WAITING
AYE RUBIO HI RUBIO I. FIFTEEN
ONE MEASURE HAS FIFTEEN FIFTEEN
ONE THAT MEASURES OUT. MEXUS
FOLLOWING FIVE SB EIGHT THREE
SEVEN CURRENT VOTE SIXTEEN ZERO
RUBIO. RUBIO AYE SEVENTEEN ZERO
SEVENTEEN ZERO THAT MEASURES OUT
FILE ITEM SIX SB FIFTEEN GROVE
CURRENT AT SIXTEEN ZERO RUBIO
RUBIO BY SEVENTEEN ZERO THE
MEASURE HAS SEVENTEEN VOTE TO
DROUGHT. NEXT MEASURES FOLLOW
HIM SEVEN SB TWO EIGHT SIX
MCGUIRE CURRENT VOTE FIFTEEN
ZERO DORADO DR SO I. SIXTEEN
ZERO SIXTEEN ZERO THAT MEASURES
OUT FILE ITEM EIGHT. SB THREE
NINETEEN- I THINK EVERYBODY BUT
ON THAT ONE UP ON THAT OKAY NOW
WE'RE MOVING FILE ITEM NINE. SB
THREE FIVE FIVE CURRENT VOTE
ELEVEN TO. CHAIR VOTING AYE
DORADO DORADO I. RUBIO HI RUBIO
I SKINNER. SKINNER HI. FOURTEEN
TO FOURTEEN A TO THAT MEASURES
OUT NEXT UP IS FILE ITEM TEN. SB
SEVEN FOUR SIX KERN VOTE
FOURTEEN ZERO DORADO DRESSER I
RUBIO HI RUBIO I. SKINNER FIVE
SKINNER AYE SEVENTEEN ZERO ZERO.
SEVENTEEN VOTES IT'S OUT FILE
ITEM ELEVEN SB FOUR TWO ZERO
CURRENT VOTE FIFTEEN ZERO DORADO
TERRAZZO I RUBIO HI RUBIO I.
SEVENTEEN SEVENTEEN IS ZERO THAT
MEASURES OUT NEXT UP FILE ITEM
TWELVE SB SEVEN FIVE FIVE
CURRENT VOTE FIFTEEN ZERO JURADO
JURADO I RUBIO HI RUBIO AYE
SEVENTEEN ZERO SEVENTEEN ZERO
THAT MEASURES OUT NEXT UP FILE
ITEM THIRTEEN. SB FIVE TO SEVEN.
EARNED VOTE. ELEVEN THREE. CHAIR
VOTING I. THAT'S WHAT. SORRY M.
DOURADO FIVE DRUGS SO I NEED.
RUBIO HI RUBIO I SKINNER.
SKINNER I. FOURTEEN THREE
FOURTEEN THREE NINE JUST WANT TO
STATE FOR THE RECORD AMENDMENTS
HAVE BEEN TAKEN ON ALL THOSE
MAJOR SEARCH FOR MEMBERS WHO ARE
QUESTIONING. NEXT UP IS
FOLLOWING HIM THIRTEEN. SB SIX
SIX FOUR CURRENT PHOTO FOURTEEN
I'M SORRY SORRY M. SIX SIX FOUR
CURRENT VOTE THIRTEEN ZERO
TERRAZZO TERRAZZO I. RUBIO AYE
RUBIO AYE SKINNER SKINNER AYE
SIXTEEN ZERO SIXTEEN ZERO THAT
MEASURES OUT NEXT UP IS FALLING
FIFTEEN. SB SEVEN EIGHT ONE
CURRENT VOTE ELEVEN TO CHAIR
VOTING AYE DORADO DRUGS SO I.
RUBIO AYE RUBIO AYE SKINNER.
SKINNER I. FOURTEEN TO. YEAH
FOURTEEN THE TO THAT MEASURE HAS
FOURTEEN TO THAT MEASURES OUT
AND FINAL ITEMS FILE ITEM
SIXTEEN S. B. EIGHT FIVE ONE
CURRENT VOTE THIRTEEN ZERO
DORADO. TERRAZZO I. RUBIO HI
RUBIO AYE SKINNER. SKINNER I
SIXTEEN ZERO SIXTEEN THE MEASURE
HAS SIXTEEN VOTES IT IS OUT
MEMBER THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR
ITEMS HERE TODAY I WANT TO THANK
EVERYBODY FOR THEIR
PARTICIPATION AND HARD WORK HERE
BOTH STAFF AND MEMBERS. AND THAT
CONCLUDES THE COMMITTEE ON
ENERGY UTILITIES AND
COMMUNICATIONS WE STAND
ADJOURNED THANK YOU.