THE SENATE COMMITTEE ONLY
REPUBLICAN EMPLOYMENT PUBLIC
EMPLOYMENT RETIREMENT WILL COME
TO ORDER. GOOD AFTERNOON THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME
PUBLIC IN PERSON- IN VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE
PARTICIPATION IN FOR INDIVIDUALS
WISHING TO USE A TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE AND PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT IN THAT WAY TODAY- THE
PARTICIPANT NUMBERS.
877-226-8216 AGAIN THAT'S
877-226-8216 AND IMPORTANTLY THE
ACCESS CODE IS. 621-716-2621
SEVEN ONE SIX TWO FOR THOSE WHO
ARE LISTENING CURRENTLY THAT
WILL BE POSTED AS I UNDERSTAND
IT- ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL
DECIDE WE PERMITTED EQUAL AMOUNT
OF TIME TODAY THE WITNESSES WILL
HAVE TWO MINUTES EACH AND
THERE'S NO RESERVING TIME FOR
OTHER WITNESSES ALL OTHER ALL
OTHERS WISHING TO TESTIFY. MUST
LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THEIR
NAME AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON
THE MEASURES YOU WILL SOMETIME
HURT HERE THAT REFERRED TO AS ME
TO USE BYE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
TESTIMONY TAKEN VIA
TELECONFERENCE ARVEST WILL BE
LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF TWENTY
MINUTES PER BILL. WE'RE HOLDING
OUR COMMITTEE HEARINGS HERE IN
THE- STREET BUILDING- AS THE
PRESENT PARTICIPANTS IN THE
BUILDING CAN SEE BUT- ONE S. OLD
REMAINING MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE TO BE PRESENT IN THIS
ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED SO WE
CAN ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM
BEGINNER HEARING I DO THINK WE-
LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A QUORUM
PRESENTLY- LET ME KNOW THAT WE
HAVE SEVENTEEN BILLS ON TODAY'S
AGENDA- THERE ARE. FOR ON. WE
WILL TAKE UP THOSE BILLS IN ONE
MOTION ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR-
BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO ANY OF
THEM AS HIS SISTER- TO FULLY
ESTABLISH CORE. SENATOR CORTEZ
HE HERE PROTESTING HERE SENATOR
WILL PRESENT WELCOME PRESENT
SENATOR DORADO YEAR DOURADO HERE
SENATOR LAYERED SENATOR
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS WE HAVE A
QUORUM. OKAY THANK YOU OF NO WE
CAN TAKE UP THE CONSENT CALENDAR
OF THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE SB THREE
NINETY ONE- S. B. FOUR SEVENTY
NINE SB FIVE FORTY EIGHT SB SIX
NINETY EIGHT. IN S. SKEWS ME S.
B. E. EIGHTY FIVE. THE MOTION BY
THE- BY SURE WILK. AND BUT THAT
WAS THE ASSISTANT TO CORPORAL.
FILE ITEMS NUMBERS TWO THREE
FOUR THIRTEEN AND SEVENTEEN ALL
ON CONSENT SENATOR CORTEZ A-
PROTEST THE ICE SENATOR WELL I
WELL I SENATOR DORADO. DORADO I
SENATOR LAYERED SENATOR
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS THESE ITEMS ARE
I'M CALLING CURRENTLY OF THREE
AYE THAT'S- OKAY SO WE CURRENTLY
THROUGH A VOTE SO IT'S ENOUGH.
TO GET THE CONSENT CALENDAR
BILLS OUT- BUT WE WILL LEAVE AN
ON CALL- NO LET'S HEAR FROM THE
FIRST AUTHOR WE'RE GONNA HEAR
FROM YOU HE IS HERE. THAT WOULD
BE A CENTER NEW LOW. IN THAT
WOULD BE ON S. B. THIRTY OF
WELCOME AND YOU CAN PROCEED TO
THE PODIUM. AND YOUR YOU'RE
WELCOME TO THAT'S WHEN READY
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER CHAIR
AND- MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE- I
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO-
PERCENT SB THREE THIRTY WHICH
PROVIDES. RELIEF MODEST REFORMS
TO THE PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL
ACT OTHERWISE KNOWN AS HAGA.
HAGA ALLOWS A SINGLE EMPLOYEE TO
BRING REPRESENTATIVE ACTIONS-
THAT IS A LAWSUIT ON BEHALF OF.
HIS OR HERSELF AS WELL AS OTHER
EMPLOYEES WITHOUT THE TYPICAL
FILING REQUIREMENT OF A CLASS
ACTION LAWSUIT OR GO TO THE
LABOR AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
AGENCY. TO RESOLVE THEIR THE
ALLEGED LABOR VIOLATIONS. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE BY THE WAY
THAT AVAILABLE DATA INDICATES
THAT THE CURRENT AVERAGE PAYMENT
A WORKER RECEIVED FROM A POCKET
CASE RESOLVED BY L. W. D. A. IF
YOU DON'T MIND ME USING THE
LETTERS. IS FOUR AND A HALF
TIMES LARGER THAN- PAGA CASE
FILED WITH THE COURT WHILE ALSO
BEING 29% LESS COSTLY FOR
EMPLOYERS THAT TRULY IS A WIN
WIN SITUATION. DESPITE HIGHER
PAY OUTS OF FOR THE EMPLOYEE
THROUGH THE RESOLUTION BY L. W.
D. A. WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY
COSTING BEING LESS COSTLY FOR
EMPLOYERS A TWO THOUSAND AND ONE
REPORT DISCOVERED PAGA LAWSUITS
HAVE GROWN EXPONENTIALLY IN
RECENT RECENT YEARS AVERAGING. A
FIFTY TWO HUNDRED CASES-
STATEWIDE BETWEEN TWENTY SIXTEEN
AND TWENTY TWENTY. THERE HAS
BEEN AN ESTIMATED EIGHT BILLION
DOLLARS IN PAGA SETTLEMENTS
SINCE TWENTY SIXTEEN. THE
THOUSANDS OF PAGA LAWSUITS THAT
ARE FILED EACH YEAR AND
CONTINUING TO GROW. ARE TAKING A
TRUE TOLL ON CALIFORNIA
BUSINESSES AND VERY
UNFORTUNATELY CONTRIBUTING TO
THE STATE'S REPUTATION OF HAVING
ONEROUS COMPLEX LABOR LAWS. I'D
LIKE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT
. MANY OF THE ALLEGED LABOR
VIOLATIONS- HOWEVER THE
BUSINESSES FACE- HAVE LITTLE OR
NO ECONOMIC OR OTHER NEGATIVE
IMPACT ON EMPLOYEES SUCH AS
MINOR TECHNICAL MISTAKES ON A
PAY STUB AND THE LIKE. IN
RECOGNITION OF THIS FACT THE
LEGISLATURE HAS ALLOWED US
THIRTY THREE DAY CURING PERIOD
FOR SOME VIOLATIONS. MANY
EMPLOYERS AND ESPECIALLY SMALL
TO MID SIZE BUSINESSES AND
NONPROFITS WHO ALSO CAN BE
SUBJECT TO THESE LAWSUITS ARE
UNAWARE OF THIS HEARING PERIOD
AT TO FIND OUT- AND THAT IT
EXISTS OR OR TOO LATE AND THE
PROCESS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
SB THREE THIRTY WILL HELP
EMPLOYERS FIX MINOR LABOR CODE
VIOLATIONS THROUGH EDUCATION BY
ENSURING THAT UNNOTICED BROUGHT
UNDER A PAGA- ACTION INCLUDE- AB
INCLUDE A NOTICE THAT THE
EXISTING CURE ALLOWANCES EXIST.
SB THREE THIRTY ALSO BRINGS MORE
CLARITY TO A PAGA ACTION BY
REQUIRING- A NOTICE TO INCLUDE
RELEVANT LEGAL- CONTENTIONS THE
NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES IMPACTED AND
IMPORTANTLY WHETHER THERE IS ANY
ACTUAL ALLEGED HARM. NOW MISTER
CHAIR I KNOW THAT A NUMBER OF
GROUPS HAVE SUBMITTED LETTERS OF
OPPOSITION RAISING CONCERNS WITH
THE BILL LAST WEEK. I WOULD LIKE
TO COMMIT TO YOU I THAT I WILL
WORK WITH YOUR OFFICE AND- WITH
ANY SAID OPERATE OP OPPOSITION-
TO- WORK FOR RESOLUTIONS OF
THOSE POINTS. CLEARLY PAGA IS
NOT WORKING FOR EMPLOYEES OR
EMPLOYERS AND MOVING THIS BILL
FORWARD TODAY WOULD ALLOW US TO
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. IN
SUPPORT TODAY I HAVE ASHLEY
HOFFMAN WITH THE CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU SENATOR- IN- WE WILL
MOVE ON TO LEAD WITH THE SUPPORT
MISS OFTEN YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND
BEGIN READY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
ACTUALLY HOFFMAN ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE IN SUPPORT OF SB THREE
THIRTY. AM SINCE TWENTY SIXTEEN
THERE HAVE BEEN AT THIRTY SIX
THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND TEN
PAGA NOTICES THAT HAVE BEEN
FILED WITH THE L. W. DA IN MY
OWN EXPERIENCE AS A LITIGATOR AS
WELL SPEAKING WITH THOSE OF THE
DEPARTMENT OFTENTIMES THESE
NOTICES ARE PRETTY COOKIE
CUTTER- COPY IN PC DO NOT OFTEN
CONTAIN A LOT OF- FACTS ABOUT
WHAT THE CASE IS ABOUT WHICH-
INHIBITS BOTH THE EMPLOYER AND
THE L. W. D. A. FROM REALLY
KNOWING WHAT TRULY THE CASE IS
ABOUT- AND- YOU KNOW FROM MY
EXPERIENCE AS WELL IS. TRYING TO
CHALLENGE THE SUFFICIENCY OF
UNNOTICED OFTEN REALLY GET TO
KNOW WHERE WHEN YOU'RE IN STATE
COURTS THE COURTS ARE VERY
HESITANT TO THROW. THE CASE OUT
ON THAT BASIS AND SO OFTEN TIMES
WE WOULD NOT ADVISE CLIENTS TO
DO SO. I'M REALLY THE GOAL OF SB
THREE THIRTY IS TO MAKE WHAT WE
THINK IS A MODEST REFORM TO THE
NOTICE. I'M I KNOW SOME OF THE
OPPOSITION HAS CLAIMED IT'S AN
IMPOSSIBLE STANDARD THAT'S
ABSOLUTELY NOT THE GOAL OF IN
FACT 90% OF SB THREE THIRTY WAS
ACTUALLY REQUESTED BY D. I. R.
I'M IN THE B. C. P. THAT WAS
FILED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
DURING THE GROUND MINISTRATIONS
WE'RE ACTUALLY CHEN. TAKING A
RECOMMENDATION FROM D. I. R. E.
TWELFTH AS FAR AS WHAT THEY
WOULD HAVE LIKE TO SEE FOR
CHANGES IN THE NOTICE AND THAT'S
REALLY THE PER THE IMPETUS OF AT
FIFTY THIRTY CAME FROM- SO AGAIN
YOU KNOW IT IS- THE SENATOR
NOTICE. I REALLY WANT TO SAY NO
TO THE EXTENT THE COMMITTEE HAS
CONCERNS- YEAH I'VE WATCHED A
LOT OF BILLS OF COURSE I'LL GO
THROUGH COMMITTEES AS WORKS IN
PROGRESS ESPECIALLY THE FIRST
POLICY COMMITTEE AND- WE JUST
ASK THE EXTENT. ACTUALLY GIVEN
AN OFFER. SO COMMITTED WORKING
WITH OPPOSITION OF THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. IS THERE A IN A- LEAD
SUPPORT WITNESS- I DO NOT HEAR
NAME. FROM THE SAN. WITH THEIR-
SMOTHER WEEDS. YOU HAVE TO MAKE
. NOPE OKAY- IT WILL NOW MOVE TO
OPPOSITION. I'M SORRY WILL NOW
MOVE TO FOLKS IN THE ROOM WHO
WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT
FOR THE BILL- NAME AFFILIATION
IN SUPPORT POSITION IF THAT'S-
THE CASE. THANK YOU I THANK YOU
OF WRANGLING WITH THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. KATIE DAVEY
WITH A CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. ANTHONY
SAMPSON HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA NEW CAR DEALERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT- GOOD
AFTERNOON MATTHEW ALL OF WESTERN
GROWERS ALSO A SUPPORTER THANK
YOU. DAVE BUTLER ON BEHALF OF
YOU CAN UNITED CHAMBER ADVOCACY
NETWORK A COALITION OF TEN LOCAL
CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA. IN SUPPORT. JACKIE
HONEST WITH A CALIFORNIA FUELS
INCONVENIENCE ALLIANCE IN
SUPPORT. WITH THE SECRECY WITH
CALIFORNIA GROCERS ASSOCIATION
ALSO IN SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT NOW
WE WILL MOVE TO OPPOSITION LAST
FOUR LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESS. HI
MY NAME IS- GEORGE WARNER
MCCARTY AT LEGAL AID AT WORK AND
I DIRECTOR WAGE PROTECTION
PROGRAM- IT LEGALLY TO WORK
REPRESENTS LOW WAGE WORKERS WHO
HAVE BEEN DENIED THEIR RIGHT TO
MINIMUM WAGE- DENIED OVERTIME.
TIED SECOND REST BREAKS AND- BUT
I PAID SICK LEAVE AND OTHER
IMPORTANT RIGHT RIGHT- FAR TOO
OFTEN LOW WAGE WORKERS CANNOT
VINDICATE THE RIGHTS ARE WORK.
THEY DECIDE NOT TO FILE A CLAIM
BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF
RETALIATION AND RIGHTFULLY
FRAYED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T LOSE
SINGLE PAYCHECK. ALMOND AND
THERE'S A RISK THEY WILL LOSE A
PAYCHECK IF THEY IF THE POPCORN.
THEY SIGN FORCED ARBITRATION
AGREEMENTS WHEN THEY START THEIR
JOB AND THOSE ARE ATTRITION
AGREEMENTS MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE
FOR THEM TO FOLLOW CLAIM IN
COURT. AND MAKE THEM POSSIBLE TO
BRING A CLAIM THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER IT ALSO MAKES AND
IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO
BRING A CLASS ACTION- MANY MANY
CUT CALIFORNIA LABOR CODE
PROVISIONS ALSO JUST DO NOT
ALLOW FOR INDIVIDUAL
ENFORCEMENT. REQUIREMENTS FOR
SPENT BY THE STATE OR THROUGH
PROGRESS. IN THIS ENVIRONMENT-
PAGA IS EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE
IMPORTANT TOOL FOR LOW WAGE
WORKERS TO VINDICATE THEIR
RIGHTS- AND I WOULD JUST ADD
THAT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
WE'VE BEEN SEEING A GROWING
NUMBER OF PAGA SUITS OVER THE
LAST DECADE IS BECAUSE- MORE
MORE EMPLOYERS ARE. ASKING
WORKERS TO SIGN FORCED
ARBITRATION AGREEMENTS WITH GIVE
DON'T GIVE THEM OTHER AVENUES
FOR LEASE. LEGALLY WORK USES
PAGA REGULARLY WE'VE RECENTLY
FILED A CLAIM WE RECENTLY FILED
A CLAIM ON BEHALF OF THREE
HUNDRED FIFTY- PHONE BANKERS
WERE MISCLASSIFIED AS
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS. AND
REQUIRED DECIDED FORCED
ARBITRATION AGREEMENT. WE
BROUGHT A CLAIM UNDER PAGA FOR
WILLFUL MISCLASSIFIED CATION
REMEDIES THE PHARMACIES ARE ONLY
AVAILABLE UNDER PAGA. AND THAT
CLAIM- WAS THE DRIVING FORCE
BEHIND THE SUIT. ALLOWED US TO
RECOVER- NEARLY ALL OF THE WAGES
OWED. THE THREE HUNDRED AND
FIFTY PLUS WORKERS AND NOT
RESULT IN PAYMENT OF OVER-
EIGHTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS PER
WORKER. THE ADDITIONAL
PROCEDURAL HOOPS THAT ARE
REQUIRED BY SB THREE THIRTY.
WILL NOT BE WILL WILL NOT
IMPROVE PAGA AND WILL NOT AND
BUT I'M JUST GLAD IT. BUT IT IS
PAIRS ARE WERE- AND A LOT OF
INFORMATION THREE THIRTY ASK
FORTY SIMPLY NOT. AVAILABLE TO
WORKERS ASK YOU HOW MANY HOW
MANY WORKERS HAVE BEEN. AFFECTED
BY THIS ISSUE WORKERS OFTEN
DON'T KNOW THAT. BOB S. EUROPE
THAT'S FINE YEAH THAT THEY THAT
THEY THEY I'M JUST ONE MORE
THING JUST- WE WERE VERY WORKERS
MAY WORK OUT ABOUT A AT A-
COMPANY HAS BEEN BOB MULTIPLE.
MULTIPLE SITE JOB SITE FOR HAD
MULTIPLE SHIFT WORKERS CAN'T
KNOW HOW MANY WORKERS ARE THAT
WE USE IN YOUR POSITION THANKS.
THIS BEEN A PART OF THE REASON
WE'RE STRICTER I'M GOING TO
CONTINUE TO BE STRICTER MORE
STRICT DURING THE- OF THE
HEARING ON THE TWO MINUTES IS
BECAUSE- IT'S A FAIRNESS ISSUE
TO ALL SITES IN- BEGINNING WHEN
WE WANT TO BE. ON EITHER SIDE
OF- TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH
SOMEBODY ELSE'S YOU KNOW THREE
OR FOUR MINUTE PRESENTATION AND-
THAT AT SOME POINT YOU'RE A TO
MAKE A DECISION WHETHER TO OPEN
UP TESTIMONY AGAIN FOR THE OTHER
SIDE SO I. DON'T WANT TO BE IN
THAT POSITION BUT I DO
APPRECIATE THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT
EVERYONE'S SAYING THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
THERE ARE FLOCKS CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION IN OPPOSITION I
WILL KEEP MY COMMENTS SHORT I
THINK THAT- COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OF GOING
THROUGH THE IMPORTANCE OF PAGA-
FOR ENFORCEMENT. AFTER SIXTEEN
YEARS OF REALLY UNDER FUNDING OF
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED IN THE
GOVERNOR SIGNED PAGA AS A TOOL
FOR WORKERS. OFTEN LOW WAGE
WORKERS TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE
THEIR RIGHTS IT IS AN ADDED
ENFORCEMENT TOOL BECAUSE WE KNOW
THAT WAGE THAT. MISS
CLASSIFICATION AND OTHER
VIOLATIONS OF LABOR LAW ARE
RAMPANT. FREQUENTLY IN LOW WAGE
IMMIGRANT INDUSTRIES. PAGA HAS
INCREASINGLY BECOME IMPORTANT TO
ALL AND THE AUTHOR CITED THAT
THERE'S AN INCREASE IN PAGA
CASES. THAT IS BECAUSE THERE HAS
BEEN AN INCREASE IN EMPLOYERS
USING FORCED ARBITRATION
AGREEMENTS. THIS STRIPS THE
RIGHT OF WORKERS TO BE ABLE TO
GO TO THE LABOR AGENCY AND FILE
A CLAIM. AND SO THAT PAGO
BECOMES THEIR ONLY OPTION. THE
IDEA BEHIND PAGO WAS TO
STREAMLINE AND MAKE SURE. WE
HAD- IN FORCE OF LAW LAW THAT
ARE PASSED AND THAT IS SIX. TO
THERE IS ALREADY A PROCESS
THERE'S ALREADY IN FOR THAT
WORKERS HAVE TO FILE WITH THE
LABOR. TO GO FORWARD WITH THE
SUIT- WE THINK THAT THIS IS A
SYSTEM THAT ALREADY WORKS WE
DON'T WANT TO RAISE THE BAR- SO
HIGH THAT WORKERS ESPECIALLY LOW
WAGE WORKERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
YOU NOT ONLY FILE PAGA SUITS BUT
HAVE NO OTHER OPTION BECAUSE OF
FORCED ARBITRATION FOR THOSE
REASONS WE OPPOSE AN ORIGINAL.
THANK YOU. RATEFIGURE TESTIMONY-
ARE THERE ANY- PERSONS IN THE
COMMITTEE ROOM WHO WISH TO
EXPRESS AN OPPOSITION POSITION
NAME. AFFILIATION AND POSITION
PLEASE. VERY COURTEOUS SHE ON
BEHALF THE CAL PLYMOUTH IS A-
AND OFFICE. JACKIE SIR NUMBER OF
THE ATTORNEYS OF CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION. KRISTOFF MEYER WITH
THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE
COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES
ASKED ME CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION. SHE HAS BEEN ON
BEHALF OF THE TEAMSTERS UNITED
HERE THE MACHINIST UNTIL THE
WORKERS UNION OF AMERICA AND
INTERESTED SCIENTISTS CALIFORNIA
IN OPPOSITION. JACKIE GRAY YSP
W. WESTERN STATE COUNCIL IN
OPPOSITION. A RATE WILL MOVE NOW
TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE TO
HEAR BOTH SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION. A MODERATOR IF YOU
CAN PLEASE QUEUE UP- ANY
WITNESSES UNTIL CONFERENCE LINE
AT THIS TIME WE APPRECIATE IT.
EIGHT DAMAGE ELECTED COMMENT
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION OF SB THREE
THIRTY YEAH PRESS ONE AND ZERO
AT THIS TIME. OKAY SO THE TO
LINE EIGHTY THREE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON KAREN
MEMBERS FAITH FORGET ON BEHALF
OF THE FAMILY DID NOT THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. NEXT TO THE TO LINE
EIGHTY EIGHT. AT GOOD AFTERNOON
MR CHAIRMAN BURGEONING HOP ON
BEHALF OF THE CIVIL DEFECATION
CALIFORNIA INSTRUCT THE PORT.
NEXT TO THE TO LINE NINETY
PLEASE BUT- MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
MARK SHOCK FOR CALIFORNIA RURAL
LEGAL ASSISTANCE FOUNDATION AND
OPPOSITION. NEXT WITH US ONLINE
SEVENTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON THIS IS A LUXURY
WITH THE IMPERIAL VALLEY
REGIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN
SUPPORT. THANKS FOR THE TO LINE
SEVENTY SEVEN. GOOD AFTERNOON
BRIAN LITTLE CALIFORNIA FARM
BUREAU SUPPORTS. MEXICO TO LINE
EIGHTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
BAGDASARIAN THE THING MORE ABOUT
ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP OR OR.
EIGHTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON SHARON MEMBERS NICK
CHAPPIE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA TRUCKING ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. AT THIS
TIME THERE'S NO OTHER SECURE
BACK TO MISTER CHAIR ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU- WILL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS
QUESTIONS CONCERNS- OUR MOTION-
LET ME LET ME MAKE MY OWN
COMMENTS SENATOR- I APPRECIATE
YOUR YOUR EFFORT TO STEP INTO.
THIS THIS ISSUE AREA-
UNFORTUNATELY IT'S MUCH BROADER
OF COURSE THEN YOU KNOW IT IS
YOUR THE DALLAS MORNING ROAD
APPROACHING YOUR BILL VIA AND-
IT IS. IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE WITH
THE DOCTRINE THAT'S BEHIND THIS
IS A GOOD EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF
THE ABILITY FOR A PRIVATE
COUNSEL PARTICULARLY DUE TO
FUNCTION. IN AREAS WHERE.
THERE'S JUST NOT THE CAPACITY OR
THE INTERESTS OF THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL- YOU KNOW OR LOCAL
AGENCIES THAT WOULD HAVE THE
POWER TO COME IN- IT IN PURSUIT
OF THESE KINDS OF GRIEVANCES
THAT SAID. IT'S ABUNDANTLY CLEAR
TO THIS COMMITTEE TO ME AS AS
CHAIR OR ANYTHING TO TOO MANY
OTHER PEOPLE OF THAT AT SOME
POINT WE'RE GOING TO. NEED TO GO
THROUGH A MORE THOROUGH PROCESS
AND IT TAKING A LOOK AT AT PAGA
WHICH I BELIEVE WILL NEED TO GO
DOWN THE PATH OF INFORMATIONAL
HEARINGS HEARING FROM FOLKS ON
ALL SIDES OF. OF THE ISSUE
TAKING A LOOK AT RECENT
LITIGATION TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO NAVIGATE IN OF COURSE- TO
THE EXTENT OF THEIR ABUSES- IN A
BELIEVE THERE ARE NOT
NECESSARILY BY. LABOR
ORGANIZATIONS FOR EXAMPLE WAY I
THINK THAT'S SORT OF BEEN CALLED
OUT- BUT THE DOCTRINE ITSELF HAS
BEEN THE SUBJECT OF ABUSE THAT'S
BEEN. A VERY DIFFICULT FOR
BUSINESSES- EVEN OUTSIDE OF WHAT
WOULD BE THE JURISDICTION THIS
COMMITTEE A LABOR MANAGEMENT
RELATIONS SO THAT YOU KNOW IT WE
WILL. DISCUSS THIS- HI I BELIEVE
THAT LEADERSHIP IN THIS
LEGISLATURE NOW IS- IS. VERY
INTERESTED IN A SCENE THOSE
THOSE BROADER. KINDS OF. CALL IT
REFORM- DISCUSSIONS HAPPEN- BUT-
I'M UNWILLING TO SUPPORT A BILL
THAT THAT JUST COMES IN AND- YOU
KNOW TRIES TO A DEAL WITH A
PIECE OF THAT- NO MATTER HOW.
YOU HONORABLE. THE INTENTION SO
A ONE TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WERE I
AM- VISIBILITY MEMBER OF COURSE
ISN'T SURE THE COMMITTEE.
WITHOUT ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS
OR CONCERNS YES ABSOLUTELY LIKE
TO MAKE COMMENTS IF THAT'S OKAY
MISTER CHAIR. SO I'VE READ THE
BILL LISTENING TO THAT THE FIRST
OPPONENT. HE SOUND LIKE YOU WERE
ELIMINATING PRIVATE CITIZENS
BILL LIMITED APARTMENT DOES NOT
ELIMINATE PAGA OKAY I DIDN'T
THINK SO- YOUR PARTNER IS SO
GOOD YOU KNOW HOW MANY OTHER
STATES HAVE PAGA. I DO NOT- BUT
I'M NOT AWARE OF MANY BECAUSE
CALIFORNIA IS ONLY ONE OF MAYBE
FOUR OR FIVE STATES HAVE ANY.
FORM OF PRIVATE RIGHT OF PRIVATE
RIGHT OF ACTION THIS IS A FORM
OF THAT AND I THINK THERE ARE NO
OTHERS. THAT THAT'S CORRECT YOU
KNOW SO YOU'RE JUST LOOKING FOR
INFORMATION SO THE AN EMPLOYER
CAN CURE SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY
OFFERING A SOLUTION AS SMALL AS
THE SOLUTION MIGHT BE. HI I KNOW
NUMEROUS BUSINESSES THAT END UP
HAVING TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS-
BEAT BECAUSE A PAGA- AND THEN
ARE YOU SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
YOU KNOW. IN EMPLOYEES AND IN
FAIRNESS TONIGHT I AGREE WITH
ALL THAT. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH
CAN YOU TELL US IN TERMS OF THE
SPLIT ON. IF SOMEBODY WINS A
PRIVATE TUTOR THEY SETTLED WHAT
THAT WHAT THAT FINANCIAL SPLIT
IS SURE- I HAVE A- FOUR OR FIVE
EXAMPLES HERE THAT I CAN GO
THROUGH THAT ARE QUITE EYE
OPENING. IN OCTOBER OF TWENTY
EIGHTEEN WALMART AGREED TO A
SIXTY FIVE MILLION DOLLAR PAGA
SETTLEMENT. BECAUSE IT'S CASH
YEARS HAD NOT BEEN PROVIDED WITH
SEATS THE TRIAL ATTORNEYS
REPRESENTING THE EMPLOYEES WILL
RECEIVE TWENTY ONE MILLION WELL
THE AFFECTED EMPLOYEES WILL
RECEIVE AN AVERAGE CHECK OF. A
HUNDRED EIGHT DOLLARS. IN AN
UBER CASE SETTLED IN JANUARY OF
TWENTY EIGHTEEN THE COURT
APPROVED A SEVEN AND THREE
QUARTER MILLION SETTLEMENT.
COVERING ONE AND A HALF MILLION
DRIVERS. COURT DOCUMENTS SHOW
THAT ATTORNEYS TOOK TWO POINT
THREE MILLION OF THE SETTLEMENT
THE STATE TOOK THREE POINT SIX
MILLION OF THE SETTLEMENT. AND
THAT LEFT ENOUGH FOR DRIVERS TO
TAKE HOME. A DOLLAR AND EIGHT
CENTS EACH. AND ONE OTHER IN A
RECENT- ONE MILLION DOLLAR
SETTLEMENT WITH GOOGLE. THE
STATE GOT FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHT
THOUSAND DOLLARS ATTORNEYS
RECEIVED THREE HUNDRED AND
THIRTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND EACH EMPLOYEE RECEIVED
FIFTEEN BOX. AND THERE ARE OTHER
EXAM YEAH SITES YET THANK YOU
FOR SHARING THAT WHAT I WANT TO
SALUTE YOU FOR I MEAN I KNOW
IT'S LIKE COUNTING OUR OUR HEAD
AGAINST THE WALL BUT YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO DO IT. THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE- THERE IS GOING
TO BE AN INITIATIVE ON THE
BALLOT IN TWENTY TWENTY FOUR TO
CORRECT THIS I THINK IT BEHOOVES
THE LEGISLATURE TO DO THAT
BEFORE THE VOTERS DO A BIT OF WE
HAVE TO RELY ON THE VOTERS AND-
THEN SO BE IT- WITH THAT AGAIN I
WANNA THANK YOU SUPPORT THE BILL
AND- HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL.
WHEN IT IS APPROPRIATE. ALRIGHT
WE HAVE- A MOTION BY SENATOR
WELCOME AND WILL ALLOW CENTER
NOTED OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE AND-
AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE
ROLL CALL- THANK YOU VERY MUCH-
MISTER CHAIR OP I WANT TO.
REPEAT THE ANSWER TO- ONE OF
SENATOR WILKES QUESTIONS THIS IS
NOT A REPEAL OF PAGA AND FRANKLY
IN TERMS OF- THE DATA- ASKED OF
THE- COMPLAINANT TO MOVING IN.
EMPLOYEE THE ONLY SUBSTANTIVE
CHANGE IS TO ARTICULATE EXACTLY
HOW THE EMPLOYEE WAS DAMAGE
CURRENTLY THERE IS NO. A
RESPONSIBILITY TO ARTICULATE OUR
VALUE ANY PARTICULAR DAMAGES AND
IN THE CASE OF- ATTORNEY
REPRESENTED- CASES THAT BUILD A
LARGE CLASS. THE INITIAL LAWSUIT
REQUESTS VERY SIGNIFICANT-
SETTLEMENT- THAT- MAY OR MAY NOT
HAVE A RELATIONSHIP TO THE
DAMAGE BECAUSE- WE DON'T KNOW.
AND ANOTHER POINT ABOUT- OVERLY
BURDENSOME ON THE COMPLAINANT.
IS HOWARD HOW ARE HE AND SHE
GONNA KNOW HOW BIG THE CLASS AS
WELL. TWO POINTS THERE ONE IS. A
SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THE
LITIGATED CASES IF NOT. MOST OF
THEM INVOLVE CLASSES THAT ARE
INDEED DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE
LAWSUIT- IN THIS CASE THE
COMPLAINANT IS REPRESENTED BY AN
ATTORNEY ON A CONTINGENT BASIS
THAT DOES ALL THAT WORK FOR THEM
SO THE COMPLAINANT REALLY
DOESN'T HAVE TO KNOW ALL THOSE
DETAILS JUST PROVIDE THEM AS
GUIDED BY. A COUNCIL AND YOU CAN
SEE BASED UPON THE EXAMPLES THAT
I GIVE THAT ULTIMATELY- THE
MONEY THAT IS PROVIDED TO THE
EMPLOYEE THE COMPLAINT IT ENDS
UP BEING AND ANYBODY ELSE IN THE
CLASS ENDS UP TO BE RATHER
PALTRY. AND I WOULD REPEAT
AGAIN. THAT THE- THE L. W. D.
EIGHT SETTLED CASES. HAVE ON
AVERAGE OF MUCH HIGHER FOUR AND
A HALF TIMES HIGHER I WOULD
AGREE THAT EVEN FOUR AND A HALF
TIMES A BUCK IS NOT A HUGE
TURNOUT BUT THE POINT IS THAT
IT'S OF LESS COSTLY FLUID FOR
THE EMPLOYERS AND THERE ISN'T A
LOT SIGNIFICANT- ATTORNEY FEE-
INCLUDED WITH THAT. SO WITH
THAT- AND I WOULD. SAY MISTER
CHAIR THAT- I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK
WITH YOU IF THIS BILL WERE TO
MOVE FORWARD TO TAKE A LOOK AT
HOW YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THAT
PAGA- SHOULD BE REFORMED YOU'RE
AGREEING THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO
BE DONE WELL I VERY MUCH THINK
THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND IF WE DON'T HEAR- I THINK
THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THE
VOTERS I DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
AND THE LEGISLATURE THAT IS NOT
INVOLVED. THANK YOU SENATOR NO I
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE THEY
CONSIDER AND- APPRECIATE YOUR-
PROSPECTS- OR PROMISE OF FUTURE
COLLABORATION- WITH THAT- I'M
GOING TO TURN TO THE ASSISTANT
FOR- FOR THE ROLL CALL ON THE
MOTION. WHICH WAS MADE BY BY
SHOULD. FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE SB
THREE THIRTY. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED BUT FIRST RE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY SENATOR
CORTEZ HE- NO PROTESTS EAT NOW
SENATOR WELL HI. WILK AYE
SENATOR DORADO. DORADO NOW
SENATOR LAYERED. LAYERED NOW
THIS BILL IS ON CALL CURLY AS
WHEN I VOTE THREE KNOWS. I'D
LIKE TO ASK FOR A
RECONSIDERATION WHEN
APPROPRIATE. RENTON THANK YOU.
IT'S A IN CONGRATULATIONS ON THE
OTHER BILL OF YOUR ASSIDUOUS
PASSER KONCEPT. YEAH I
APPRECIATE THAT I AM I AM- ONE
FOR THREE I THINK WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR
HONOR YOU FOR YOUR ON THE WINNER
SIDE TOO SO. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO FILE
ITEM FIVE WHICH IS S. B. FIVE
NINETY TWO SENATOR NEWMAN SPILL
IF HE'S SERIOUS HERE. WELCOME
SENATOR. YOU MAY PROCEED
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY THANK YOU
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR. TAGS
GOOD AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY PRESENT SB FIVE
NINETY TWO. WHICH WOULD PROVIDE
INDIVIDUALS AND ENTITIES A GOOD
FAITH COMPLIANCE DEFENSE FOR USE
IN JUDICIAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE
PROCEEDINGS. AND DIRECTED
APARTMENT OF INVESTOR RELATIONS
TO TRANSLATE ITS WEBSITE AND ALL
MATERIAL IS PUBLISHED ON IT INTO
CALIFORNIA'S MOST COMMONLY
SPOKEN LANGUAGES. CALIFORNIANS
CAN BE VERY PROUD. TO ENJOY SOME
OF THE MOST RIGOROUS AND
COMPREHENSIVE WORK PROTECTIONS
IN THE NATION. AT THE EXPERIENCE
OF NAVIGATING THESE LAWS HOWEVER
CAN BE VERY CHALLENGING-
PARTICULAR FOR CALIFORNIA SMALL
BUSINESSES WHICH TOGETHER
ACCOUNT FOR. NINETY NINE POINT
8% OF ALL EMPLOYERS IN THE STATE
WHILE EMPLOYING. ROUGHLY HALF OF
CALIFORNIA'S PRIVATE SECTOR
WORKFORCE AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT
MAYBE SMALL BUSINESSES LACK THE
WHERE WITH ALL TO HIRE EXPENSIVE
ATTORNEYS OR HR DEPARTMENTS. AND
INSTEAD RELY UPON THE DIVISION
OF LABOR STANDARDS ENFORCEMENT
ALSO KNOWN AS THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER. FOR GUIDANCE AND
INSTRUCTIONS ON LABOR MATTERS AS
THEY CONFRONT THEM. A GIVEN THE
DLS HE'S ROLE AS THE ENTITY
RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING
CALPERS LABOR LAWS EMPLOYERS ARE
FULLY EXPECTED TO ADHERE. TO THE
POLICIES AND GUIDANCE ISSUES
FAIR TO COMPLY CAN RESULT IN
FINES SANCTIONS OR UNDER THE
MOST SEVERE CIRCUMSTANCES
CRIMINAL PART PROSECUTION.
SOMEWHAT PARADOXICALLY THOUGH
YEAH AMBIGUITIES IN EXISTING
STATE LAW ALSO MAKE IT LIKELY
THAT EMPLOYERS MAY BE SUBJECT.
TO PENALTIES FOR ACTUALLY
FOLLOWING THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER'S GUIDANCE TAKE AS
AN EXAMPLE A TYPICAL SMALL
BUSINESS WHO AS IT STRIVES TO
COMPLY WITH CALIFORNIA LABOR LAW
HAS MODELED THEIR BUSINESS
PRACTICES UPON A TEMPLATE.
PUBLISHED BY THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER. NOW IMAGINE THAT
TWO YEARS LATER THAT PUBLISHED
GUIDANCE IS INVALIDATED BY A
COURT OF LAW. A SUDDENLY THE
SMALL BUSINESS OWNER WHO WAS
OPERATING UNDER THE RULES AS
THEY EXISTED AT THE TIME. AND IT
WAS BEEN FOLLOWING THOSE RULES
TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY.
MAY SUDDENLY FIND THEMSELVES
SUBJECT TO RETROACTIVE FINES
PENALTIES AND PROSPECTIVE LEGAL
LIABILITY. SB FIVE NINE TWO
WOULD ALLOW SUCH EMPLOYERS A
GOOD FAITH COMPLIANCE DEFENSE
FOR USE IN JUDICIAL. OR
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDINGS IF.
AND ONLY IF THE EMPLOYER PROVE
TO J. THAT THEY RELIED UPON AND
WERE IN FULL UNEQUIVOCAL
COMPLIANCE. THEN THEY WOULD NOT
BE SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL
PENALTIES UNDER THE PROVISIONS
OF SB FIVE NINETY TWO. EMPLOYEES
WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY
BACK WAGES IN ATTORNEY'S FEES
WHERE APPROPRIATE CALIFORNIANS
SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO THE EAST
THE ASSURANCE THAT THEY WON'T BE
PUNISHED BY THE STATE. FOR
SIMPLY FOLLOWING THE GUIDANCE
AND MATERIALS ISSUED BY THE
STATE. IF THE LABOR
COMMISSIONER'S ERRED IN ITS
INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS SHOULD NOT BE
LEFT PAYING FOR THE
COMMISSIONERS MISTAKE. THIS IS
THE LEGAL NOT THAT THIS BILL
SEEKS TO UNTIE. SB FIVE NINETY
TWO WOULD NOT GIVE EMPLOYERS
BLANKET IMMUNITY. NOBODY GRANT
BRED ACTORS IMMUNITY FROM THE
CONSEQUENCES OF BAD FAITH
ACTIONS IN REQUIRING EMPLOYERS
TO PROVE. THAT THEY WERE IN FULL
COMPLIANCE WITH THE RELEVANT
GUIDANCE IN THAT THEY HAVE
REPRESENTED THE FACTS. OF THEIR
CASE TO THE LABOR COMMISSIONER
TRUTHFULLY. AND COMPLETELY SB
FIVE NINE TWO INCORPORATES INTO
STATE LAW. A SERIES OF JUDICIAL
SAFEGUARDS WHICH HAVE ACTUALLY
BEEN IN EFFECT. AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL SINCE NINETEEN FORTY
SEVEN. THE SAFEGUARDS WOULD
LIMIT THE BILL'S APPLICABILITY
ONLY GOOD FAITH ACTORS. WHO CAN
PROVE THEY DID EVERYTHING WITHIN
THEIR POWER TO COMPLY WITH THE
LAW. AND EXCLUDE BAD ACTORS WHO
MISREPRESENT. WHERE CHERRY PICK
THE FACTS. FURTHER TO THE EXTENT
THAT SB FIVE NINETY WOULD
REQUIRE EMPLOYERS TO MAKE A
FULL. AN OBJECTIVE ACCOUNTING OF
ALL OF THEIR ACTIONS TO THE
LABOR COMMISSIONER'S PART OF ANY
APPEAL. THE ARGUMENT F. SB FIVE
NINE TWO COULD SERVE AS A
SCREEN. FOR BAD FAITH ACTORS
LACKS MERIT FOR AN AGENCY WHOSE
OWN STATED MISSION. IS TO HELP
LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD FOR
CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES. WE SHOULD
BE CAREFUL OF THE NOTION THAT
INSURANCE. ADHERENCE TO THE
LABOR COMMISSION FREE AND
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE GUIDANCE.
COULD ALSO ENTAIL THE THREAT. OF
A BUSINESS KILLING FINE. TO
ACCEPT THIS AS NORMAL IS TO ALSO
ACCEPT THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE
LAWS CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED. ONLY
BE ACHIEVED BY THOSE WHO CAN
AFFORD EXPENSIVE ATTORNEYS. IN
FEES. WHICH WOULD REGULATE OUR
SMALL BUSINESSES WHO ENJOYED NO
SUCH LUXURY TO CONTINUE
UNCERTAINTY. IN LEGAL JEOPARDY
WITH ME TO TESTIFY TODAY OUR
MARKETS GOMEZ. A SMALL BUSINESS
OWNER HERE IN SACRAMENTO. AND
JULIAN COMMITTEE ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA SPENT A CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE. I RESPECTFULLY.
ASKING FOR YOUR AYE VOTE TODAY.
THANK YOU CENTER WILL MOVE TO
YOUR LEADS. WHEN THEY-
WITNESSES- MARCUS GOMES. PLEASE
EITHER ONE OF YOU CAN GO FORCES
OSJE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. JOINT
COMMITTEE PRESIDENT CEO
CALIFORNIA'S PENSION WAS A
COMMERCE- THANK YOU SENATOR
POTASSIUM AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. OFFERS LET
ME THANK. A CENTER NEWMAN. OF
FOR. KAREN THIS BILL ON BEHALF
OF SMALL BUSINESS. AND WE ARE.
SUPPORTIVE OF THE BILL AS WELL
AS AS WELL AS A CO SPONSOR- E.
AS A CENTER SAID. OUR SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS DON'T HAVE LARGE
LEGAL STAFF OR THEY DON'T HAVE.
HR DEPARTMENTS. WHAT THEY DO
RELY ON IS A LABOR COMMISSION'S
GUIDANCE. AND THE RAGS THAT THEY
PUT OUT AND- AND OPINIONS THAT
THEY PUT OUT. M. ARAFAT IT SAYS
THEY RELIED ON THIS GUIDANCE. WE
FEEL THEY SHOULD NOT LATER BE
PENALIZED. FOR DOING SO IN GOOD
FAITH. NOW. WHEN AND WHEN I'M
WATCHING JUST WE'RE NOT SAYING
THEY DON'T- THE WAGES. THAT ARE
OWED OVER SANDERS AND EMPLOYER
TOOK A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO
RELY. ON THE COMMISSION'S
GUIDANCE AND OPINIONS. AND KERRY
DOES FORWARD. AND THEY SHOULD
NOT BE PENALIZED FOR DOING SO-
IT'S TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS
DEFENSE. OF THE EMPLOYER MUST
PROVE TO THE COURT. OR THE LABOR
COMMISSION THAT THEY DID- THEY
DID RELY ON THESE GUIDANCES AND
THE FACTS OF THE CASE ARE
APPLICABLE TO THE GUIDANCE- IN
MY LIFE SAID WORKERS WERE STILL
RECEIVE- OWED WAGES ATTORNEY
FEES AND COSTS. NOW- YOU KNOW.
WE ENCOURAGE AND TELL OF IS THAT
THEY NEED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE
WITH THE LAW. AND I BUSINESSES
WANT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE. BUT AT
THE SAME TIME THEY DON'T WANT TO
BE COMPLIED COMPLYING WITH THE
LAW AND THEN. BE PENALIZED
BECAUSE THEY DID SO- AT THE
GUIDANCE OF THE STATE- AGAIN YOU
KNOW AND WHEN ONE OF THE OTHER
THINGS IS WE FEEL THAT THE BILL
IS BOTH- AN EMPLOYER FRIENDLY
BILL AN EMPLOYEE FROM THE BILL.
YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK WE'RE
ASKING FOR IS A TRANSLATION OF
THE WEBSITE IN. COMPLETELY IN
SPANISH AND OTHER LANGUAGES I'M
NOT JUST FOR EMPLOYERS WHO SPEAK
A SECOND LANGUAGE BUT ALSO FOR
EMPLOYEES SO THEY KNOW THEIR
RIGHTS. UNDER THE LAW BUT THEY
ALSO KNOW THE OBLIGATIONS THAT
THEIR EMPLOYERS ARE HELD TO. UP
IN THESE CASES THAT MOVE FORWARD
SO AGAIN WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING
US TIME TO. TO GIVE YOU OUR OUR
THOUGHTS ON THE BILL BUT ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE. THE Q. NEXT
WITNESS PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON
NAMES MARCUS GOMES AND- BUSINESS
OWNER BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR
TWENTY FIVE YEARS BEFORE THAT I
WORKED FOR MY FATHER WHO HAS
BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR. FORTY FIVE
YEARS- SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS- I
SUPPORT THIS BILL- WE DON'T
ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THINGS BUT
WE DO TAKE CARE OF OUR
EMPLOYEES. I KNOW THERE'S A FEW
BAD APPLES OUT THERE THAT. YOU
KNOW MAYBE THEY DON'T MAY TRY TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM- BUT I.
CAN ASSURE YOU MAJORITY OF SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS TAKE CARE OF
THEIR EMPLOYEES. WHEN MY
BUSINESS IS- WE'RE IN A- GROUP
OF. BUSINESSES THAT THEIR
WAREHOUSES. IN EVERY ONE OF
THOSE BUSINESSES AS A SMALL
BUSINESS. AND YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT
ROOFING COMPANY WE'VE GOT- SHOP
COMPANY AND YOU KNOW WHAT.
EVERYBODY ROUNDER SEEMS LIKE
THEY'RE PRETTY HAPPY NOBODY
SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE YOU KNOW
HOW FAR IT'S- DEPLOYS. I'M HAPPY
WITH WHERE WHERE THEY'RE
WORKING- I HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE
THAT'S BEEN WORKING FOR ME FOR
TWENTY FIVE YEARS- I HELPED HIM.
HELP TO BUY A HOUSE. YOU KNOW.
HELLO OF THESE LAWS THAT YOU YOU
YOU YOU PUT ON US AND THE THINGS
THAT YOU WANT US TO DO. YOU KNOW
. IT GETS IT GETS MORE DIFFICULT
TO DO. STAY IN BUSINESS YOU
KNOW- IF I COULD GO OUT OF STATE
I WOULD BUT UNFORTUNATELY MY
BUSINESSES HERE IN SACRAMENTO
SO. I CAN'T LEAVE BUT THERE ARE
OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE
LEAVING. SO IT I THINK YOU NEED
TO. YOU KNOW TAKE A TAKE A STEP
BACK. AND LISTEN TO WHAT SMALL
BUSINESS PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.
WITH THAT I SUPPORT. THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.
ARE THERE OTHERS IN THE ROOM WHO
WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS A SUPPORT
POSITION ON THE BILL. THE PLEASE
COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION IN YOUR POSITION
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MARTIN
MCINTOSH I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
MY EMPLOYER BAROS ASSOCIATES
WERE SMALL WOMEN OWNED MINORITY
BUSINESS. OUT FIGHTING TO MAKE
PAYROLL EVERY TWO WEEKS SINCE
THE COMMONSENSE THE- BILL AND WE
SUPPORT. ACTUALLY HOW OFTEN ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE I HAVE PROUD TO
SUPPORT A PROUD BECAUSE SPONSOR-
ALSO THERE'S ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS AND ALSO AVAILABLE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BRECK
LIABILITY ON BEHALF OF THIS IS
SEATED GENERAL CONTRACTORS OF
CALIFORNIANS SECEDED GENERAL
CONTRACTORS OF SAN DIEGO IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AFRIN
JOHNSON ON BEHALF OF THE YORBA
LINDA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WE ARE
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
THERE ARE. MANY MANY SMALL
BUSINESSES THAT REALLY DO TRY TO
WORK HARD AND YOU KNOW TRY TO DO
THE RIGHT THING FOR THEIR
EMPLOYEES THE ECONOMY I'M SORRY.
NAME AFFILIATION AND PRODUCTION
THAT'S IT OXIDES I THINK JOHNSON
YOU'RE A BUNCH OF COMMERCE IN
SUPPORT THANK GOD THANK YOU.
JACKIE HONEST ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA FUELS CONVENES
ALLIANCE IN SUPPORT. A MISTER
CHAIR CHRIS MCKINLEY ON BEHALF
OF THE HOLLYWOOD CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
. AFTERNOON ENTERING POWER WITH
THE CALIFORNIA ASIAN PACIFIC
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WE ARE PROUD
CO SPONSORS OF THE BILL AND WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT- GOOD AFTERNOON
MR CHEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
MATTHEW WEALTH WESTERN GROWERS
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL. HELLO
RHINELANDER CALIFORNIA RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. KATIE
DAILY WITH A CALIFORNIA
RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT. WITH THE SECRECY WITH
THE CALIFORNIA GROCERS
ASSOCIATION ALSO IN SUPPORT.
SORRY THANK YOU KNOW WE WILL GO
TO OPPOSITION WITNESSES- IS- A
LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESS. TWO
MINUTES EACH OF THERE'S MORE
THAN ONE. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
SERAPH LOCKS IN THE CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION WE ARE HERE IN
OPPOSITION WELL WE DO SUPPORT
TRANSLATION A LANGUAGE ACCESS WE
OPPOSE THE REST OF THE BILL- AND
I KNOW THIS BILL HAS. THERE IS A
LOT OF COMMENT ABOUT A SMALL
BUSINESS BUT THIS IS A BILL
APPLIES TO ALL BUSINESSES IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND AT THE
SAME TIME NINETEEN THOUSAND
WORKERS HAVE FILED IN TWENTY
TWENTY ONE WITH THE DLS THE-
WITH LABOR LAW VIOLATIONS- FOR A
TOTAL OF THREE HUNDRED THIRTY
EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS. IN LAST
WEEK WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS
PROTECT EMPLOYERS WHO VIOLATE
LABOR LAW AND ELIMINATES THE
LIABILITY IF THEY SAY THAT THEY
ARE RELYING ON AN OPINION LETTER
FOR GUIDANCE IDEALISTS. AND THE
LIABILITY THE PENALTIES ARE WHAT
IS SUPPOSED TO ACT AS A
DETERRENT FROM BAD ACTORS- AND
MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS
COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW- THE
BILL REFERENCES OPINION LETTERS
AND ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
INCLUDING FREQUENTLY ASKED
QUESTIONS. TEMPLATES CHARTS.
ANYTHING THAT'S BASICALLY ON DLS
USE WEBSITE. OPINION LETTER
SPECIFICALLY AND THE OTHER
INFORMATION WERE NEVER INTENDED
TO BE LEGAL ADVICE OR TO REPLACE
THE ACTUAL LAW THAT WAS PASSED
BY THE LEGISLATURE. AN OPINION
LETTER AND YOU CAN GO THROUGH
THEM ON THE WEBSITE WENT THROUGH
QUITE A FEW OF THEM.
UNEMPLOYABLE COLLIN OR ASKED FOR
LEGAL ADVICE THEY GIVE THEIR
VERSION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THEIR FAX AND DELISTED TRIES TO
GIVE. THEIR OPINIONS OPINION
LETTER THEY DON'T GO OUT AND
INVESTIGATE THEY DON'T INTERVIEW
WORKERS THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS
NOT SAID EVEN IF THE EMPLOYER
SAYING EVERYTHING TRUTHFULLY
THERE'S A LOT OF CONTEXT. THAT
IS NOT CONTAINED IN THAT LETTER
AND IT IS VERY SPECIFIC TO ONE
EMPLOYER. AND THAT IS WHAT THIS
BILL WOULD ALLOW EMPLOYERS TO
RELY UPON TO THEN NOT HAVE
LIABILITY- SO THAT IS ONE PIECE
THE OTHER PART I WANT TO GET
INTO IS THAT. THIS BILL SUPPOSED
TO BENEFIT ACCORDING TO THE
AUTHOR SMALL BUSINESS BUT WHAT
IT DOES IT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO
POLITICIZE THE ROLE OF
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WERE
SUPPOSED TO INTERPRET AND
ENFORCE LAWS PASSED BY THE
LEGISLATURE. IT WOULD ALLOW
CORPORATE FIRMS TO GO AND- TRY
TO GET A BENEFICIAL OPINION
LETTER OR FAX SHEET FOR
INFORMATION THREE D. LSE BY
LOBBYING BECAUSE THEN THEY COULD
USE IT OF A DEFENSE OF THEIR
CLIENTS WHO CAN AFFORD TO PAY.
SMALL BUSINESS CAN'T AFFORD
THAT. SO WE DIDN'T HERRON LEAGUE
MAKES ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES MORE
POLITICAL AND GIVES AN ADVANTAGE
TO LARGE BUSINESSES WHO CAN HIRE
CORPORATE LAWYERS WHO CAN GET
OPINION LETTERS WRITTEN IN A WAY
TO PROTECT THEM FOR THOSE
REASONS WE OPPOSE IN ORIGIN A NO
VOTE. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. HIS
SECOND OPPOSITION WITNESS AND
WHEN WE HIT FOR THOSE WHO ARE
NEW TO THIS I KNOW SOMEONE TRIED
TO GO OVER AND- I DON'T. THINK
THAT WAS SOMEONE NEW TO THIS. WE
HAVE. TO LEAD WITNESSES ON THE
SIDE OPPOSITION SUPPORT EVERYONE
AFTER THAT. IS LIMITED TO THE
LESSER TESTIMONY EXPRESSING
THEIR OPINIONS THANK YOU. THANK
YOU MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MARIE GO
YOSHIHARU HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA KLIMENT LAWYERS
ASSOCIATION WE SUPPORT THE
WEBSITE TRANSLATION
UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE OPPOSED TO
THE AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE. WE
BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL
EFFECTIVELY IMMUNIZE EMPLOYERS
WHO BREAK THE LAW BUT WE ALSO
BELIEVE THAT IT'S LIKELY
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THE BILL WOULD
USURP THE CONSTITUTIONAL POWER
OF THE JUDICIARY TO INTERPRET
CALIFORNIA LAW. BY VESTING THAT
AT THE READY WITH THE DIVISION
OF LABOR STANDARDS ENFORCEMENT.
OUR COURTS HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID
THAT THE INTERPRETATION OF THE
LAW IS THE EXCLUSIVE PROVINCE OF
THE JUDICIARY NOT THE
DEPARTMENT. OF THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH SUCH AS THE DLS E. THE
CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT
REAFFIRMED THIS WALL SUBTLE
JUTISH JUDICIAL TENANT AND
BRINKER RESTAURANT CORPORATION
VERSUS SUPERIOR COURT IN TWO
THOUSAND TWELVE. WHEN IT STATED
THE DEAL LESS THESE OPINION
LETTERS WHILE NOT CONTROLLING
UPON THE COURTS BY REASON OF
THEIR AUTHORITY. DO DO
CONSTITUTE A BODY OF EXPERIENCE
AN INFORMED JUDGMENT TO WHICH
COURTS AND LITIGANTS MAY
PROPERLY RESORT FOR GUIDANCE. IN
OTHER WORDS DEAL AS HE OPINION
LEADERS ARE PERSUASIVE AUTHORITY
BUT NOT CONTROLLING. AND THE
REASONS FOR THIS ARE PLAIN
OPINION LETTERS TYPICALLY ARISE
OUT OF A LIMITED SET OF FACTS
PRESENTED BY EMPLOYERS OFTEN AS
PART OF A HYPOTHETICAL
SITUATION. AND ALWAYS WITHOUT AN
ACTUAL BODY OF EVIDENCE FOR A
TRIER OF FACT AWAY. AS THE
SUPREME COURT'S DATE STATED
OPINION LETTERS ARE BY
DEFINITION MEANT TO BE
INSTRUCTIVE AND NOT FINDING
PRECISELY BECAUSE THE RECORD
UPON WHICH THEY ARE BASED IS
SPARSE. AND ALWAYS ONE SIDED
ALSO IF AB FIVE NINETY TWO WERE
TO BECOME LAW DEPENDING ON THE
ADMINISTRATION IT COULD CREATE A
SLEW OF UNDERGROUND REGULATIONS
THAT COURTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY
FOUND TO BE CONTRARY TO THE
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES ACT.
IF THE DEAL IS YOU CAN CREATE
BINDING LAW WITHOUT UTILIZING.
THE PROCEDURES REQUIRED UNDER
THE APA I'M- AS WILL OCCUR. IF
FIVE NINETY BECOMES LAW THEN THE
PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL WILL
CERTAINLY BE. IN CONFLICT WITH
THOSE PROVISIONS OF THE
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES ACT.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS WORST
RESPECTFULLY IN OPPOSITION-
THANK YOU ARE THERE OTHERS IN
THE ROOM WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION
WHO WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS THAT
ALONG WITH YOUR NAME AND
AFFILIATION. MISTER CHAIRMAN
MACHINE DOESN'T ON BEHALF OF THE
TEAMSTERS UNITE HERE THE
MACHINISTS UTILITY WORKERS UNION
OF AMERICA. AND THE ENGINEERS
AND SCIENTISTS CALIFORNIA
OPPOSITE. JACKIE SENT ON BEHALF
OF THE CONSUMER ATTORNEYS OF
CALIFORNIA AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. CHRISTOPHE MAIRE
WITH THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF
STATE COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL
EMPLOYEES AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. RESEARCHER COMMITTEE
MEMBERS LIVING COSTS THAT WOULD
SHE MILLER RAIL AND
TRANSPORTATION WORKERS SMART
TRANSPORTATION DIVISION AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. JESSE
GRANT WHILE YOU'RE C. W. WESTERN
STATES COUNCIL IN RESPECT OF
OPPOSITION. GEORGE WARNER
LEGALLY THAT WORK IN RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION- YOU THINK YOU WILL
GO TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE
KNOWN AS THE MOTOR TO KEEP
MODERATOR TO QUEUE UP ANY
SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION WITNESSES
WHO CALLED IN- MODERATOR. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR BUT THOSE WHO
WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL PLEASE
PRESS ONE AND ZERO PRESS ONE AND
ZERO ONLY ONE TIME AS PER THE
PERSON ONE AND ZERO SECOND TIME
WILL REMOVE YOU FROM THE QUEUE.
WILL NOW GO TO LINE. ONE OH
NINE. ONE ONE OH NINE YOUR LINE
IS NOW OPEN. GOING TO MOVE ON TO
LINE EIGHTY SEVEN. THAT HAVE
BEEN COMING UP THE CALIFORNIA
LEGAL FOOD PRODUCERS IN SUPPORT
. FLYING. EIGHTY EIGHT. AFTER
THE MATURE MEMBER JANIE HOW FAR
BEHALF OF COURSE THAT'S THE
EXPECTATION OF CALIFORNIA AND
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. LINE
NINETY. MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS MARK SHOCKED CALIFORNIA
RURAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE
FOUNDATION IN OPPOSITION. LINE
ONE OF. FOUR KIRBY WITH THE
IMPERIAL VALLEY REGIONAL CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE IN SUPPORT. LINE.
NINETY SEVEN. MICHAEL CALLED ON
THE HAVE THE CALIFORNIA STATE
COUNCIL BODY FOR HUMAN RESOURCE
MANAGEMENT AND SUPPORT. LINE.
SEVENTY SEVEN. ONE SEVENTY SEVEN
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
BRIDAL CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU
FOR. LINE ONE NO ONE. REGARDED
AS WITH THE COOPER GROUP ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA'S
DECISIONS A **** BURGERS. IMPORT
THANK YOU. LONG DEFENDED BY
EIGHTY NINE YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. YEAH THAT. FIND. EIGHTY
NINE.
MISTER CHAIR THERE IS NO WINDOW
TO SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
MODERATOR GOOD JOB ON THAT WILL
COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE NOW
FOR A QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR
COMMENTS- SCENE UNKNOWN SEEKING
RECOGNITION OTHER THAN MYSELF-
IF I MAY GO FIRST NO. THROUGH
THE- RESPECTFULLY. I JUST WANNA
LET I JUST WANT TO LET THE
AUTHOR KNOW WHERE I'M AT ON
THIS- APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT I
MEAN IN SOME WAYS THE- I GUESS
THE HUMAN NATURE IS NOT BY YOU
AS AN AUTHOR BUT I THINK IN
TERMS OF SOME OF THE SUPPORTERS
COMMITTEE WITH THIS IS NO BIG
DEAL THE GUIDELINES OR
THEREABOUTS- ALLOW THE
GUIDELINES TO BE USED IN A
JUDICIAL PROCEEDING AN
ADMINISTRATIVE JUDICIAL
PROCEEDING AND SO FORTH. BUT
IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL- AND YOU
KNOW SPEAKING AS OF AN
ATTORNEY'S PRACTICE LAW- YOU YOU
KNOW EVEN IN AG'S OPINION
DOESN'T REALLY CARRY THE WEIGHT
OF PRECEDENT- YOU KNOW IN A IN A
JUDICIAL PROCEEDING- AS IN MOST
CASES YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
PUBLISHED. APPELLATE COURT
DECISION BEFORE YOU EVEN REACH
YOU KNOW THAT LEVEL OF GRAVITAS-
AND SO IT'S JUST THAT PIECE OF
IT THAT I DISAGREE WITH I
UNDERSTAND THE BURDEN SPEAK
PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT
ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE ON
THE SMALL BUSINESS SIDE YOU KNOW
WHO WOULD WOULD HAVE OF MORE.
DIFFICULTY I SUPPOSE LAWYERING
UP IS AS THEY SAY OR EITHER
DEFENDING THEMSELVES LOOKING
FOR- YOU KNOW A WAY TO. TO GET
AROUND THAT IN A MORE CONCISE
EFFICIENT WAY THAT'S THAT'S
NOBLE BUT IT WOULD IT WOULD BE-
REALLY I THINK OF. A MASSIVE
CHANGE IN THE WAY. YOU KNOW OUR-
OUR PROCESS OF JUDICIAL
PRECEDENT IS HANDLED IN AN
INSIGHT THAT. REALLY PUSHES ME
AWAY IN IT- CAUSES ME TO BE IN A
POSITION NOT TO. TO BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT YOU ON THE BILL WITH AN
AYE VOTE I DO AGREE A COUPLE OF
PEOPLE OF SAID IT I MEAN THE-
THE OTHER. PART OF THE BILL THAT
DEALS WITH- WEBS- TRANSLATION
ACCESS I THINK IS YOU KNOW
EXTRAORDINARILY SUPPORTABLE AND
I. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TRYING TO-
YOU KNOW BIFURCATE THESE TWO
ISSUES BUT- THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN
BUT- BUT AGAIN I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR. YOU KNOW STEPPING INTO
THIS AREA YOU IN FOR THE
EXCELLENT OVERALL PRESENTATION
THAT YOU MADE EARLIER AND I KNOW
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
RESPOND SHORTLY UNLESS YOU WANT
TO DO RIGHT NOW. OTHERWISE
ALTERNATE CENTER WILK- RESPECT
CENTER WILL ARISE BUT I SURE
WILL. BE SURE. OKAY GREAT I DO
NOT HAVE A CHOICE ANYWAY- I WANT
TO CONGRATULATE YOU CENTER
NEWMAN YOU'VE GOT MORE
OPPOSITION AND PAGA REFORM
TODAY. SO IT'S VERY AS VERY
IMPRESSIVE. SO I THINK THIS IS I
USED TO GREAT BILL AND I MEAN I
THINK IT'S A COMMON SENSE BILL
IT IS ALSO A BIPARTISAN BILL
BECAUSE- CENTER VIDAK: CARRIED
SIMILAR LEGISLATION I THINK BACK
IN IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN. AND I
BELIEVE THAT BY PERSONS
SOLUTIONS ARE ALWAYS BETTER
SOLUTIONS AND LONGER LASTING
SOLUTIONS SO THANK YOU THANK YOU
FOR THAT- IN IN TERMS OF CON
CONTACTS. WHAT PEOPLE TALKED
ABOUT. YOU KNOW LARGE
CORPORATIONS CAN GAME GAME THE
SYSTEM AND BUT IT'S THE LITTLE
GUYS GET SQUEEZED ALL THE TIME.
I WANT STEP BACK. IF EMPLOYEES
ARE OWED THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE-
THEY'RE OWED THE MONEY AND IT'S
AN COME UPON THEM PLAYER TO PAY
THAT THIS IS JUST DEALING WITH
THE LITIGATION WHICH DRIVES UP
COSTS. SO I WANT I WANT THAT OUT
THERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS A
BLURRED A LITTLE BIT. MAYBE WHAT
YOU WE DO SOME KIND OF A MAN
THAT WERE THIS ONLY APPLIES TO
SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE THOSE
THAT. IS THE MOM AND POP TO GET
SQUEEZED ALL THE TIME THE LARGE
CORPORATIONS I AGREED. HAVE THE
ABILITY TO GAME THE GAME THE
SYSTEM SO I DON'T KNOW IF
ANYBODY. IS OPEN TO THAT OR NOT
BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING
MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT. IN JUST
THE FINAL THING. YOU KNOW
FEDERAL LAW DOES IT WHICH YOU
KNOW PROVIDES YOU KNOW
AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE FOR. YOU
KNOW EMPLOYERS THAT RELY ON THE
FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. AND
WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME STANDARD
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE OUGHT
TO LOOK AT TO BE A LITTLE BIT
MORE. YOU KNOW BUSINESS FREIGHT
FRIENDLY BECAUSE THIS BENEFITS.
EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES WHICH I
DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN STRESSED
ENOUGH SO ANYWAY. THIS IS A
GREAT PROPOSAL I SUPPORT IT AND
WHEN APPROPRIATE. I MOVED THE
BILL. ALL RIGHT- BY SURE WILL
THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL
COMMENTS ON ALL JOKING ASIDE.
AND WILL TURN CENTER WHERE NOW.
S. SENATOR NEWMAN AND I'VE
SURFED. DOWN THE SENATE FOR TWO
AND A HALF YEARS AND I'VE NEVER
VOTED AGAINST A SENATOR NEWMAN.
YET AND I'M SORRY THAT I AM
BEING PRESENTED WITH THE
OPPORTUNITY YOU'RE SAYING CENTER
. THANK YOU I THANK YOU FOR
LEADING ME TO THE REST OF MY
COMMENTS- I DO IF. I DID. OUR
PERSONNEL WORK AT LOCAL
GOVERNMENT LEVEL WHEN A TWENTY
SEVEN HUNDRED EMPLOYEE OPERATION
AND WHAT YOU TRY TO DO AT EVERY
STAGE IN THE PROCESS. IS MAKE
SURE BOTH PARTIES HAVE ACCESS TO
WHATEVER IT IS. AND IF YOU HAVE
ONE PARTY. EXPLAINING THE FACTS
TO GET A LETTER. AND THERE'S NOT
THE OTHER PARTY INVOLVED THAT
SEEMS LIKE THAT ON THE FACE OF
IT IS A PROBLEM AND THE TROUBLE
IS HERE. I DON'T THAT TO ME IS
THE PROBLEM. E. YOU COULD
ADVANCE TO. THEN YOU HAVE BALLS
AND IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY
AFTER MORE PEOPLE. YEAH WE COULD
DEAL WITH THAT IF WE GOT TO. DO
SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS FAIR BUT
I THINK THAT'S THE FLAW IN THIS
IS. IT IS THAT IT IS BASED ON
ONE PERSON'S ACCOUNT AND WHEN I
WAS DOING. OUR GRIEVANCES WHEN I
WAS DOING TERMINATIONS A AND THE
OTHER ISSUES. THOSE ACCOUNTS
VARIED WIDELY AND HOW PEOPLE
ADVOCATED FOR THEM ON EACH SIDE
VARIED WIDELY. AND SO THAT'S WHY
I THINK ALL DUE PROCESS HAS BOTH
PARTIES AT THE TABLE WHEN ASKING
QUESTIONS OR MAKING COMMENTED
THAT IS WHAT IS MISSING HERE AND
SO- I THINK THAT. THURMOND
COMMENT OBVIOUSLY I SUPPORT THE
TRANSLATION PARKED IN IT IF THAT
WAS IT. I WOULD GO AND I DON'T
KNOW. IF THERE'S A WAY THAT YOU
COULD FIX THIS BILL EXCEPT TO
ALLOW. SOMETHING BASED ON THE
FACTS WITH BOTH PARTIES HAVING A
SHOT AT IT. IN A WIDER BUT THEN
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE OTHER
PROCESS IS TO DO THAT SO I THINK
THAT'S- THE THAT'S THE FLOOR
HERE. THANK YOU SIR AND ROSA
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SENATOR
NEWMAN A GOOD TO SEE YOU- YOU
KNOW I LOOK AT THIS WE'RE IN THE
LABOR COMMITTEE AND- TRYING TO
LOOK AT THE BILLS THAT COME
THROUGH HERE. THROUGH THE LENS
OF HOW WORKERS WORKING PEOPLE
ARE PROTECTED. I DON'T LOOK AT
IT THROUGH HOW TO PILE UP ON
BUSINESS BUT RATHER WHAT DOES IT
TAKE FOR WORKING PEOPLE TO KNOW
THAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE GOING TO
BE IN FORCE THAT'S WHAT OUR ROLE
IS AS GOVERNMENT WILL WE PASS
THESE LAWS. SO I DON'T SEE
THROUGH THIS BILL. THAT WORKERS
WILL BE MORE PROTECTED- IN FACT
I THINK THERE'D THE SOMETHING
WILL BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE
STRENGTH OF ENFORCING OF THE
BILLS AND YOU AND I. YOU KNOW I
OVERSEE THE BUDGET WITH LABOR
AGENCY WE KNOW ALL THE ISSUES
THAT LABOR AGENCIES GO THROUGH
OUR STATE LABOR AGENCIES GO
THROUGH. TO TRY TO ENFORCE THE
LAW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS HOW. YOU
KNOW THE BACKLOG OF CASES- SO
I'M LOOKING AT IT THROUGH
THROUGH ALL THESE LENSES I.
DON'T SEE HOW WORKING PEOPLE
WOULD WOULD BENEFIT FROM AND
THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE FOR ME SO
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SENATOR
DRAWS SO I THINK EVERY EVERYONE
WHOSE- AS TO BE RECOGNIZED AS
BEEN RECOGNIZED AT THIS POINT-
GIVEN OPPORTUNITY CLOSING THE
WILL COME BACK TO BUY SURE WILL.
AND OKAY WITH ANYTHING I WAS
JUST THINKING MEMBERS. AND I DO
APPRECIATE. THE FEEDBACK AND
AGAIN WE'RE WE'RE WE START IS WE
HAVE. BUT WHEN I THINK MAKE MOST
LUXURY WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM
RIGHT IN THE STATE WERE SMALL
BUSINESSES AND WE LACK THE
RESOURCES THE BIG COMPANIES DO.
THEY GO WHERE IT SEEMS APPARENT.
THAT THAT THEY CAN FIND AT THE
GUIDANCE AND RESOURCES TO KEEP
THEM ON THE STREET NOW IS AS A
MATTER OF. A GOOD BUSINESS
PRACTICES AND SO THE WHAT THE
WHAT THE BILL ENDEAVOR TO DO IS
TO IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT- AND TO
PROVIDE THE ASSURANCE. RELEASED
THE SPACE TO GOOD FAITH ACTORS
THAT IN THE EVENT THAT THEY
ADHERE. TO POLICIES IS THEY
UNDERSTAND THEM IS THERE
PUBLISHED- ON THE LABOR
COMMISSION'S WEBSITE. THAT THAT
THEY THEY WOULD INDEED BE
LIABLE. FOR ANY RETROACTIVE PAY-
TO DO IT TO TRUE UP. OTHER WORDS
BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE EXPOSED. TO
REALLY- ONEROUS PENALTIES. OR
THE PROSPECT OF THOSE PENALTIES.
AB EIGHT ENGAGE IN IN MAKING A
GOOD FAITH EFFORT SO TO. ADDING
SENATORS POINTED A I THINK THIS
WHOLE PROCESS ASSUMES THAT THERE
WOULD BE A POINT- IN THAT
PROCESS WITH BOTH SIDES TO BE
HEARD- AND EIGHTY EIGHT DO YOU
KNOW AT. THE SAYS IT WOULD BE
MADE. AS TO WHETHER THE EMPLOYER
WAS IN FACT DEALING IN GOOD
FAITH- IN FACT IT WOULD BE
INCUMBENT. UPON THE EMPLOYER TO
PROVE THAT BUT IF THEY COULD.
ALL RIGHT AND NOBODY TAKES ANY
ISSUE WITH THE NOTION THAT- YOU
KNOW THE BACK WAGES. AT WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SAVE THEM.
FROM THE HEARTACHE AND EXPENSE.
OF REALLY SEVERE RETROACTIVE
FUNDS- THAT ARE OFTEN ENOUGH TO
PUT SMALL BUSINESSES OUT OF
BUSINESS- AND ASSEMBLY ENOUGH TO
DISSUADE. GOOD PEOPLE FROM GOING
INTO BUSINESS. SO THAT YOU KNOW
THAT'S THE GOAL HERE- IF YOU
HEARD FROM- THE WAY- TO THE
EFFECT THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE
ANTI WORKER. RIGHT IT'S MEANT TO
FIND SOME SPACE THAT WE'RE IN
CALIFORNIA WE PROTECT THE
WORKERS- BUT WE PROVIDE SAFE
HARBOR FOR GOOD EMPLOYERS. NOR
IS IT MEANT TO BE ANTI UNION-
AND SO YOU KNOW WITH THAT- AND I
DO APPRECIATE. YOUR FEEDBACK-
YEAH I THINK THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT CONVERSATION THAT WE
NEED TO HAVE. IN CALIFORNIA.
WHERE IT IS INCREASINGLY HARD TO
START- AND MAKE A BUSINESS
SURVIVE- FOR REASONS VERY
SIMILAR THE ONES WE DISCUSSING
HERE TODAY WITH THAT. AGAIN
RESPECTFULLY I STRUGGLE. THANK
YOU SENATOR- VICE CHAIR WILL BE-
JUST CONFIRMING YOUR- MOTION
AND- I MADE THE MOST YES SIR ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU AND WHAT THE
ASSISTANCE STATE THE- THE MOTION
AND CALL THE ROLL CALL OF THIS
TIME. FILE ITEM NUMBER FIVE S.
B. FIVE NINETY TO THE MOTION IS
TO PASS BUT FIRST TO RE REFER TO
THE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
SENATOR CORTEZ E. NO PROTESTS
EAT NOW SENDER WELL HI. WELCOME
HI SENATOR DORADO. DORADO NOT
VOTING SENATOR LAYERED. NO
LAYERED NOW SENATOR SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS NO SMALLWOOD CUEVAS NOW.
THIS BILL FAILS WITH- WHEN AIBO
IN THREE KNOWS. AS
RECONSIDERATION. OF NO OBJECTION
A RECONSIDERATION IS GRANTED
THANK YOU SIR THANK YOU. WE'RE
GONNA MOVE ON NOW TO FILE ITEM
SIX S. B. SIX SIXTEEN CENTER
GONZALEZ. WELCOME TO YOU AND YOU
CAN PERCENT AND WISH THANK YOU.
CRATES GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER
CHAIR AND MEMBERS I AM HERE
TODAY TO PRESENT SENATE BILL SIX
ONE SIX WHICH WILL INCREASE PAID
SICK LEAVE. EXPAND THE CURRENT
SAFETY NET FOR ALL WORKERS FIRST
OFF I WOULD LIKE TO BE CLEAR
AND- WOULD LIKE TO BE CLEAR IN
AMENDING THIS BILL AS DESCRIBED
IN THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS TO
EXTEND RETALIATION PROTECTIONS
FOR EMPLOYEES. WHO USE THEIR
PAID SICK DAYS- ARE UNDER A
GENERAL COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
AGREEMENT AND ARE EXEMPTED FROM
PAID SICK DAYS LAW IN CALIFORNIA
SECONDLY THESE AMENDMENTS
PROVIDE SEVEN UNPAID SICK DAYS
TO RAILROAD EMPLOYEES.
CALIFORNIA LED THE NATION IN
ESTABLISHING THE HEALTHY
WORKPLACES HEALTHY FAMILIES ACT
OF TWENTY FOURTEEN WHICH
REQUIRES EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE
THREE PAID SICK DAYS TO ALL
EMPLOYEES HOWEVER. THE COVERT
NINETEEN PANDEMIC IN OTHER
WIDESPREAD OUTBREAKS LIKE THAT
OF OUR AS VP. AND THE FLU HAVE
ILLUSTRATED THAT JUST THREE PAID
SICK DAYS IS NOT ENOUGH FOR MOST
PEOPLE TO RECOVER FROM SUCH
ILLNESSES DURING THE PANDEMIC WE
SAW THE INCREDIBLE BENEFITS THE
INCREASED PAID SICK LEAVE HAD ON
THE HEALTH OF EMPLOYEES.
RESEARCHERS FOUND THAT THE
EMERGENCY PAID SICK LEAVE
POLICIES PREVENTED THE SPREAD OF
APPROXIMATELY FOUR HUNDRED NU
KOPEN NINETEEN CASES PER DAY.
HOWEVER THOSE BENEFITS WERE ONLY
TEMPORARY AND ONLY SHORT TERM
EXTENSIONS OF PAID SICK LEAVE
POLICIES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO
PROVIDE A RELIABLE SAFETY NET
FOR WORKERS AND PROTECT PUBLIC
HEALTH YEAR ROUND. SB SIX ONE
SIX WILL ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM BY
INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF PAID
SICK LEAVE THAT EMPLOYERS ARE
REQUIRED TO PROVIDE TO EMPLOYEES
FROM THREE TO SEVEN DAYS. AND
SEVEN UNPAID LEAVE A DAYS FOR
RAIL WORKERS WHILE ALSO ENSURING
EMPLOYEES ARE NOT DISCRIMINATED
AGAINST RETALIATED. OF FOR
TAKING SICK LEAVE. NOT ONLY ARE
PAID SICK DAYS GOOD FOR WORKERS
STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT PAID
SICK LEAVE DECREASES THE
PROBABILITY OF JOB SEPARATION BY
AT LEAST 25% WHICH SAVES
BUSINESSES MONEY ON- TURN OVER.
A EXPENSES SUCH AS INTERVIEWING
AND TRAINING LASTLY THE IMPETUS
OF CURRENT LAW WAS TO INSURE ALL
WORKERS. WERE ABLE TO STAY HOME
WHEN THEY WERE. SICK OR WHEN
THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS WERE SICK
CURRENTLY ONE RAILROAD WORKERS
ARE STRUCK BY SUDDEN ILLNESS AND
TRY TO TAKE EVEN ONE DAY. OF
SICK UNPAID LEAVE THEY ARE
PENALIZED RISKING DISCIPLINE OR
EVENTUAL TERMINATION WHICH IS
UNFORTUNATE AND NOT FAIR.
THEREFORE EVEN PROVIDING UNPAID
SICK DAYS IS ESSENTIAL TO ENSURE
THEY ARE ABLE TO RECOVER AT HOME
WHEN NEEDED AND NOT RISK LOSING
THEIR JOBS. SB SIX ONE SIX WILL
GRANT WORKING FAMILIES ACROSS
THE- THIS STATE INCREASE
FLEXIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF
THEMSELVES AND THEIR LOVED ONES.
AND ENSURE CALIFORNIA REMAINS
THE FOURTH LARGEST ECONOMY BUT
LEAVES NO ONE BEHIND. TESTIFYING
IN SUPPORT TODAY HAVE KELLY KICK
FROM THE UNITED. FOOD AND
COMMERCIAL WORKERS LOCAL FIVE
AND JOSE HAD NONE THIS WILL
SPEAK IN SPANISH. WHO WORKS AT
WENDY'S HERE IN SACRAMENTO.
THANK YOU MISTER TURNER I
RESPECTFULLY ASK WHEN I VOTER SB
SIX ONE SIX. THANK YOU SENATOR
IN WILL START WITH THE FIRST- WE
SUPPORT WINDOWS I DON MY NAME IS
KELLY KICK. I'M A PROUD UNITED
FOOD AND COMMERCIAL WORKERS-
MEMBER FOR THE LAST TWENTY NINE
YEARS- TWENTY FIVE OF THOSE
YEARS HAVE BEEN SPENT IN THE BAY
AREA AT SAFEWAY- I'M VERY VERY
PROUD OF MY JOB. AND I NEVER
REALLY TOOK MY JOB TOO SERIOUSLY
AND THEN THE PANDEMIC HIT AND I
BECAME A CENTRAL. GOING TO THE
STORE EVERY DAY WAS A FEAR BASED
SITUATION. AND WE COULDN'T HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAY HOME AND
ZOOM OUR JOBS. WE WENT TO WORK
SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD HAVE
SUPPLIES AND GROCERIES TO STAY
AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES
AT HOME. IT WAS REALLY SCARY
TIME WHEN WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
WAS HAPPENING. WE HAD COWORKERS
WHO WOULD COME TO WORK AND SAY
THAT THEY TESTED IN THE MORNING.
AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE
RESULTS. THEY WORK WITH US HAVE
TODAY AND THEN THEY FIND OUT
THAT THEY TESTED POSITIVE. THUS
INFECTING ALL OF US THAT'S
AFFECTING ALL OF THE CUSTOMERS.
THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY THIS IS
NOT THE LAST PANDEMIC THIS WILL
HAPPEN AGAIN AT SOME POINT. IT'S
GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE STATE
IT'S GOING TO SHUT DOWN THE
COUNTRY. WE NEED TO INSTILL
PROTECTIONS FOR ALL WORKERS.
INTO LAW. WHEN IT HAPPENS YOU
CAN. SO THAT WORKERS DON'T HAVE
TO COME TO WORK SICK AND MAKE
THE CHOICE TO LEAVE. THEIR
FAMILIES. AND NOT BE ABLE TO
TAKE CARE OF THEM AND PAY THEIR
BILLS. IT ALLOWS. THEM TO STAY
HOME TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES
TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES TAKE
CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN. INSTEAD
OF MAKING A CHOICE TO PUT FOOD
ON THE TABLE. WHEN THEY TOOK
SUPPLEMENTAL. PAID SICK LEAVE
AWAY. DIDN'T MEAN COVERED
MAGICALLY DISAPPEARED. NOW
WORKERS COME TO WORK SICK.
BECAUSE THEY USED UP WHAT LITTLE
BIT OF SICK LEAVE THEY DO HAVE.
AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE A
CHOICE BETWEEN PAYING THE BILLS
ARE PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE OF
THEIR FAMILY. PAID SICK LEAVE.
IS AN IMPORTANT PUBLIC. HEALTH
MEASURE. TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY
SAFE BY GIVING WORKERS PEACE OF
MIND. WHEN THEY GET SICK OR NEED
TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILY.
THEY WON'T FALL FURTHER BEHIND
IN LIFE BY DOING THE RIGHT THING
. I HAVE TO ASK YOU TO WRAP OF
GOT IT. I'M EXTREMELY LUCKY I
HAVE A UNION CONTRACT THAT
ALLOWS ME TO HAVE PAID SICK
DAYS. MORE THAN MOST BUT- NOT
ALL WORKERS ARE UNION WORKERS
EVERYBODY GETS SICK NOT
EVERYBODY HAS A CONTRACT. THANK
YOU. WHERE THE TWO MINUTES A
LITTLE OVER A NEXT WITNESS
PLEASE. SUPPORT WITH- YOU
ANOTHER SPORT WITNESS. OKAY
PLEASE COMPORT. THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE. THIS IS GONNA WE'RE
GONNA TIME THIS AT FOUR MINUTES
BECAUSE OF THIS INVOLVES
TRANSLATION THANK YOU. WHAT MADE
UMBILICAL SEVEN AND THIS THERE
ARE OFTEN WAITED THIS IS
CERTAINLY THAT DILUTES TO
FOURTEEN TO THE ALREADY. IN THE
MIDDLE WITH YOU KNOW YOU FIX
YOUR OWN NUMERO I THE CORRECT.
IMAGE WE ARE BECAUSE WE VALUE
SAPELO SAMANTHA. IT ALL GOT TO
WORK IF I THERE WILL. WAIT A
MEANS ALL THAT I WANT TO. IN A
MEETING OF OUR YEAH ANYTHING BUT
THAT IF I WILL WHEN YOU DON'T.
BEDROOM WHEN THESE. ONE MOMENT
THOUGH THAT FOR ME THAT RAP YOU
THAT. NO THEN IT WILL SOON. OF
OUR HOPEFUL NEW HOME IF I GOT
OFF WORK HELLO IN THE M. FOR
THEM FOR ME THAT. THEIR OWN WAVY
THE MONDAY IF EVER HOW THE
REQUEST ARE THIS LITTLE THING
WITH THAT IS THE OTHER PART OF
ME THAT. I'D WITH YOU KNOW PCM
ON THEIR MATH. WHERE WHERE THEY
- I THOUGHT HE IS THAT. RULE
WITH THIS OVER THE V. OUT BY A-
THANK WILL BE THAT. WELL NOW OUR
WITH. YOU EVERY STEP. WELCOME
NEAR THE ME THAT I YOU GOT
ANTHONY OKAY YOU HAVE A FOR MOST
. WHAT IF YOU DON'T. DO YOU NO
HARM IF I GOT A THREE WHAT YOU
MEANT THAT AFTER THROUGH THE
MEDIA WHAT IS IT FUNDING FOR A
THEY KEPT WELL UNITED SURVEY
THEY DID HE SAY. IS THIS WHAT
THROUGH THE ON MY HUSBAND FOR ME
THAT. IF THEY DID THEN WILL TELL
YOU THAT YOU LEAVE YOUR FINAL
VOTE THROUGH. THE NEW CIVIC
WITHOUT RAFI THAT. NO THE VIDEO
TO CONNECT THAT ABOUT OF. IN
MORE SALUTE THOUGHT. FOLDER US
OUR PRODUCT FOR THEIR- SOBER
LIVING THE RUN CARE YES OKAY
FOREVER MADE THAT. YOUR BILL
WILL NOT. MOTHER MAYBE- YOU THAN
A HELLO TO IN WITH FEDERAL
CHAPLAIN. WILLIAM NEIL. BUT I
THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE TO THE LOT
FROM BY THE END OF DRAFTING
MAHOOD GOOD THING I'M WITH I
DON'T THINK THE ONLY. OF THE OF
THE APARTMENT UP OUT OF. BUT A
LOT AT A YEAR TO BE ON THE IF
YOU THOUGHT GONNA LET YOU COME
WITH BUT I THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN
GO BY F. OF IN WITHOUT BE IN
THE- POINT THAT. SORRY MOST WHO
TO FOR THE REMOTE LOW ACT. GET
UNDER CALM BEFORE THE BALL OF A
FELLOW THE- S. BOTH CFO'S. MORE
PRODUCT YOU AND I SERVE IT SAID
THIS IS A GOOD OFFICE. THE
GROSSES. IN TRANSLATION TO BE A
COUPLE OF MINUTES RIGHT OKAY
YES- GOOD MORNING GOOD AFTERNOON
MY NAME IS JOSE HERNANDEZ I WORK
AT WENDY'S AND I AM A LEADER IN
THE FIGHT FOR FIFTEEN AND THE
UNION. IN JANUARY I HAVE TO BE
HOSPITALIZED FOR TWO WEEKS
BECAUSE OF AN OF A NEAR PASSED
THE INFECTION. IN TOTAL I WAS
OUT FOR MORE THAN A MONTH. FROM
MY TWO JOBS AS A JANITOR AND A
FAST FOOD WORKER A JANITOR I'M A
PART OF A UNION HOWEVER AND FAST
FOOD WORKERS. DO NOT HAVE A
UNION. I'M MY JOB WITH THE UNION
I WAS ABLE TO SECURE PAID SICK
LEAVE FOR MY ENTIRE TIME AS I.
RECUPERATE WHILE OUT WENDY'S
WHERE I WORKED FOR MORE THAN
TWENTY FOUR YEARS I ONLY GOT
THREE DAYS OF PAID SICK. NOT
NEARLY ENOUGH. IT WAS HARD TO
GET BY BUT THANKFULLY I WAS ABLE
TO SURVIVE OFF MY SAVINGS. I'VE
SEEN FIRST HAND HOW MY COWORKERS
AND FAST FOOD OR FORCED TO WORK
SICK BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD
TO MISS WORK HELPING. THIS IS
WHY WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT WITH SB
SIX SIXTEEN. THESE FOUR EXTRA
DAYS OF PAID SICK LEAVE WOULD
BRING MUCH RELIEF TO US IN THE
FAST FOOD INDUSTRY. WE SHOULD
HAVE TO WORK SICK EXPOSE OTHERS
IN ORDER TO SURVIVE. WELL WE'RE
SICKER DURING HEALTHCARE IS LIKE
THE ONE I HAD. I'M HERE TODAY TO
FIND OUT NOT ONLY FOR MYSELF.
BUT FOR THE MORE THAN A HALF
MILLION FAST FOOD WORKERS.
ACROSS THE STATE WE DON'T HAVE A
SAY. IN OUR WORKPLACE OR UNION
TO ENSURE RIGHT. LIKE BASICALLY.
UNTIL THAT DAY COMES. WE NEED
LAWS LIKE THIS ONE TO HOLD
COMPANIES. RESPONSIBLE FOR
CARING. ABOUT OUR WELL BEING.
ONLY BY WORKING TO THAT TOGETHER
CAN WE IMPROVE THE LIVES OF.
WORKERS ACROSS CALIFORNIA.
PLEASE SUPPORT SUPPORT. SB
SIXTEEN. THANK YOU. OKAY THANK
YOU FOR TRANSLATING- WILL S. NOW
THERE ANY OTHER SUPPORT.
WITNESSES WHO WISH TO EXPRESS.
NAME AFFILIATION AND SUPPORT.
THANK MISTER CHAIRMAN. THAT
MITCH SNIDER WITH CAL. LABOR
FOR. PROUD CO SPONSOR THE BILL
OR YOUR SUPPORT. RICO YEAH SHE
HARM BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
PLUMMET LAWYERS ASSOCIATION AND
THE CALIFORNIA COALITION FOR
WORKER POWER AND SUPPORT. SHARON
TERMAN WITH LEGAL AID AT WORK
PROPOSED SPONSOR IN STRONG
SUPPORT THINKING. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN BIRTH MEGHAN
SUPERS ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PROFESSIONAL
FIREFIGHTERS AND SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON IN A WHILE HER WELL
WITH A RP CALIFORNIA IN STRONG
SUPPORT. MISTER CHAIRMAN
COMMITTEE MEMBERS WE COSTA WITH
THE STATE LEGISLATIVE BOARD OF
THE SHEET METAL AIR RAIL AND
TRANSPORTATION WORKERS SMART
TRANSPORTATION DIVISION IN
SUPPORT THANK- SCOTT BRENT DOES
SMART TD LOCAL TWELVE A ONE FROM
THE CONDUCTOR OF STOCK IN
CALIFORNIA FOR THE IMPS OF
RAILROAD AND IN SUPPORT AND
THINKING. JACKIE ST ON BEHALF OF
THE CONSUMER ATTORNEYS OF
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. MARIN IRAQ
GO WORKOUT LITTLE CAESAR IN
CARMICHAEL. A FIREFIGHTER
ROUTINE IN A UNION HERE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB SIXTEEN
THANK YOU. HELLO THE SELLER HARO
UFCW THREE TWENTY FOUR IN
SUPPORT. HELLO THIRTY AS WITH
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT. JENNY TO HAVE CITY ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA WORK
AND FAMILY COALITION. HAD CO
SPONSOR AND SUPPORT AND ALSO
TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF THE
FOLLOWING ORGANISATIONS IN
STRONG SUPPORT CALIFORNIA
PARTNERSHIP TO END DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE CALIFORNIANS FOR
PESTICIDE REFORM CENTER FOR LAW
AND SOCIAL POLICY. PESTICIDE
ACTION NETWORK SANTA CLARA
COUNTY SANTA CLARA COUNTY LEAD
TO THEFT COALITION AND WORKING
PARTNERSHIPS USA THANK YOU.
HELLO MALAZAN BAFF AS HERE YOU
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON JANICE SHENKMAN HERE
WITH FAMILY CAREGIVER ALLIANCE
AND THE CALIFORNIA COALITION ON
FAMILY CAREGIVING IN STRONG
SUPPORT. DAVID GARCIA CREWMEMBER
CHIPOTLE IN OAKLAND I'M A MEMBER
OF FIVE FIFTEEN AND I'M IN
SUPPORT FOR. SB. SIX SIXTEEN. A
NUMBER OF CONSENT ON THIS IS OUR
HEALTH BUT- WHEN THIS EVEN IF
IT'S ALMOST GOT FOR YOUR LIFE
SERVICE THEY DO THINK. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHEN GOVERNMENT ON
BEHALF OF THE TEAMSTERS THE
AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION UNITE
HERE ARE THE ENGINEERS AND
SCIENTISTS OF CALIFORNIA AND
UTILITY WORKERS UNION OF AMERICA
ON SUPPORT. JESSE GRANT WHILE
YOU HAVE C. W. WESTERN STATE
COUNCIL IN SUPPORT. JOHNSON AND
CANNABIS INDUSTRY PROFESSIONAL
IN SUPPORT. THE NUMBER IS DELAY
ESPANA MANGO THE OAKLAND
CALIFORNIA ALLOWING WENDY'S
UNANIMOUS THING UP FOR YOU KNOW
THE- LET IT IS IT IS SAFE TO
SAY. THAT IF. GROSSES GOOD
AFTERNOON ARE JOHN GOMES- UFCW
LOCAL FIVE IN SUPPORT. CHRIS
RESPONSES OF THE WESTERN CENTER
LAMPARD IN STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON CARTOON- WITH THE
AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE
COUNTY MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES- IN
SUPPORT OF SB SIX ONE SIX. MINUM
DEFINATLY RADA- THE LITTLE
BOOKING FEE IS TO BE A LOT FOR
YOU BUT I LOVE IT BUT I SAY THEY
SAY THE SAME FOR THIS YEAR. WHEN
I THOUGHT THIS WEEK THAT IS ALSO
IT'S LIKE WHEN I WOULD TRAVEL
USING THIS BEFORE BALLOT SAISIE
. WHO THANK YOU- WE WILL NOW
MOVE TO OPPOSITION WITNESSES
LEAD OPPOSITION PLEASE. GOOD
AFTERNOON ACTUALLY HOW FROM HALF
THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. SB SIX ONE SIX SIX
TO MORE THAN DOUBLE THE REQUIRED
AMOUNT OF PAID SICK LEAVE DAYS
FROM THREE TO SEVEN I WANT MANY
OF OUR MEMBERS INCLUDING SMALL
BUSINESS OFTEN TRY AND OFFER
MORE NOT ALL OF THEM CAN AFFORD
TO DO SO. IF THEY DO OFFER MORE
THEY ARE ALLOWED TO AND IT MADE
SOME OF THE REALLY STRICT IN
ADMINISTRATIVE BURDENS FIVE
PIECES OF THE LAW FOR EXAMPLE
THEY ARE ALLOWED TO ASK FOR
DOCUMENTATION IF YOU WERE OUT
FOR CONSECUTIVE NUMBER OF DAYS.
WE HAVE MEMBERS THAT ACTUALLY I
HAVE DO YOU KNOW FOR THAT HAVE
SEASONAL WORKERS THAT SHOW THAT
THE AMOUNT OF SICK LEAVE THAT
ISSUES TOWARDS THE END OF THE
SEASON- CLIMBS EXPONENTIALLY
SOMETIMES A 3100% WHAT IT WAS
SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE. DUE TO
SOMETIMES WHAT IS THE BRAND OF
USE OF SICK LEAVE. BECAUSE WE
CAN'T REQUEST DOCUMENTATION. ON
THIS YEAR IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST
YEAR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS
COMING OUT IN SUPPORT OF ANOTHER
PROPOSAL THAT YOU WILL HEAR
LATER. THAT WOULD INCREASE PAID
SICK LEAVE- AND THE REASON WE
ARE DOING THAT IS BECAUSE THAT
PROPOSAL SEEKS TO ADDRESS SOME
OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE. AND LOCAL
ORDINANCES THERE ARE CURRENTLY
NINE LOCAL ORDINANCES WHICH
EQUATES TO TEN TOTAL STATE LAWS
ON PAID SICK LEAVE. YOU THE
DRIVER COMING FROM SANTA MONICA
TO SAN DIEGO. THEY CAN PASS
THROUGH FOUR OF THOSE IN ONE
DAY. WE GET CALLS ON EARLY RELY
HOTLINE ALL THE TIME WITH SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HAVE NO IDEA
HOW TO HANDLE THAT. AND HOW TO-
RECONCILE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT
LIES NOT ONLY ARE THERE
DIFFERENCES IN THE AMOUNT OF
TIME THAT'S OFFERED. BUT THE
ACCRUAL RATES HOW YOU ACCRUE THE
RATE THAT IT'S PAID OUT. WHEN
YOU CAN CAP IT WHEN YOU CAN USE
IT- I HAVE A SIXTEEN PAGE
DOCUMENT THAT ACTUALLY GOES
THROUGH ALL OF THE DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN THESE ORDINANCES THAT'S
REALLY CONFUSING. I DON'T
UNDERSTANDING WHEN THIS LAW WAS
DEVELOPED WAS THAT IT WAS NOT
ENFORCEABLE BY PAGA. COURSE SAID
UNDERSTOOD THE SAME THING AND
THEN ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO
ACQUIRING FORTY COURT OF APPEALS
DISAGREED WITH THAT. WHICH NOW
OPENS OUR SMALL BUSINESSES UP TO
SIGNIFICANT EXPOSURE ESPECIALLY
WHEN THEY'RE WRESTLING BETWEEN
TEN DIFFERENT LAWS THAT THEY'RE
TRYING TO APPLY TO ONE COOPER.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. A GOOD
AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR CHRIS
MCKINLEY ON BEHALF OF THE
HOLLYWOOD CHAMBER IS MY-
COLLEAGUE INDICATED- YOU KNOW
THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IS THIS
BILL MORE THAN DOUBLES THE
NUMBER OF PAID SICK DAYS WITHOUT
ANY CORRESPONDING. CHANGES OR
REFORMS. OF THINGS LIKE RATE OF
PAY DOCUMENTATION I KNOW THAT
THE COVERT PAID SICK LEAVE FOR
EXAMPLE WAS CITED EARLIER TODAY-
WELL I WOULD NOTE THAT EMPLOYERS
CAN SEEK DOCUMENTATION UNDER THE
COVERT PAID SICK LEAVE. A STATUE
THAT WAS ALSO EXTENDED. AND YOU
KNOW FUNDAMENTALLY YOU HAVE TO
TAKE BILLS LIKE THIS AND PUT
THEM INTO CONTEXT. THERE IS NO
DIFFERENTIATION BASED ON
EMPLOYER SIZE OR TYPE OF
EMPLOYEE THAT WAS ONE OF THE-
REQUIREMENTS OF THE AUTHOR OF
THE ORIGINAL PAID SICK LEAVE LAW
IN THIS STATE THAT IS APPLIED
ACROSS THE BOARD. BUT A MORE
THAN DOUBLING HAS IMPLICATIONS
PARTICULARLY FOR THE SMALL
EMPLOYER COMMUNITY. AND IF YOU
LOOK BACK OVER THE PAST FIFTEEN
YEARS OR SO THIS LEGISLATURE FOR
GOOD OR FOR BAD. HAS BEEN ACTING
ANYWHERE FROM A LOW OF TWO DOZEN
TO MORE THAN FORTY FIVE AND
FIFTY NEW STATUTES IN THE LABOR
CODE. ON AND THIS BILL LIKE MANY
OTHERS THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING
THIS YEAR HAVE TO BE PLACED IN
THAT CONTEXT IN THE BURDEN IT
CREATES ON THE EMPLOYER
COMMUNITY IN THE STATE THANK
YOU. VERY THE THANK YOU THE
OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES WHO
WISH TO COME FORWARD AND STATE.
NAME TITLE. THE END. ISSHIN. HI
BRIAN ELAINE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. KATIE
DAVEY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION- MATTHEW ALL OF
WESTERN GROWERS ALSO OPPOSED.
THE TWO SINGERS HERE WITH THE
CALIFORNIA GROCERS ASSOCIATION
ALSO OPPOSED. ARRAYED TO SEEN IT
NO OTHER WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
WILL GO TO THE TELECOMS A
MODERATOR NESS MODERATOR TO
PLEASE QUEUE UP WITNESSES EITHER
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. ON THE
TELECONFERENCE ON. AND THEN I
FEEL LIKE TO- COMMON SUPPORT
OPPOSITION MSPS SIX ONE SIX. IN
A PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME.
FOR SO THAT'S LINE. ONE OH EIGHT
BUT. RIGHT MANY YOUNG UP OF IT
WERE RIGHT OKAY THE NATIONAL
REFUGE WOMAN'S CALIFORNIA. AND
DINNER. WITH TRUMP BOTH OF
SAFETY AT THE PUMP. TWENTY
THANKS TO THE TO THE- ONE OF.
THREE FOUR. THANK YOU JERRY
SENATOR FELL AROUND WHAT WORK
WITH CALIFORNIA COMMISSION ON
THE STATUS OF WOMEN AND GIRLS IN
STRONG OF SB SIX ONE SIX THANK
YOU FOR THE OFFER FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD. THANKS WE GO
TO LINE SEVEN. BUT. HAVING. ON
THE LINE ONE TWELVE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON ON A
WHEELCHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS YOU TODAY AT THIRTEEN
WITH THE CALIFORNIA IMMIGRANT
POLICY CENTER WITH WRESTLERS
FROM PORT TO THE BILL THANK YOU
. I SERVICE LINE ONE NINETEEN
THE AND- RIGHT USE NOTE STATE
CHAIRMAN OF THE BROTHERHOOD OF
LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEERS AND
TRAINMEN IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANKS TO THE TIMELINE EIGHTY
ONE THESE CAR AT. ERIN EVANS ON
BEHALF OF NARAL PRO CHOICE
CALIFORNIA AS WELL AS THE
CALIFORNIA NURSES MIDWIVES ASIAN
IMPORT THANK YOU. I TOOK US FINE
EIGHTY NINE THE. FIVE MY EIGHTY
NINE YEAR NINTH OPEN. HI MARY
FROM THE THANK YOU FOR CALLING
ATTENTION AND HE. AT. NINE EIGHT
NINE. RIGHT YES. HI MY THING
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA MAKE
PARTNERSHIP RESPECTFULLY POSTING
. NEXT WITH. NINE ONE THIRTEEN
THIRTY FIVE. AND HAVING COME OUT
FOR THE CALIFORNIA LEGAL FOOD
PRODUCERS IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. NEXT TO THIS LINE NINETY
SEVEN PLEASE. MICHAEL CALLED ON
THE CALIFORNIA STATE COUNCIL
CITED FOR HUMAN RESOURCE
MANAGEMENT IN OPPOSITION. THANKS
FOR THE TO LINE ONE TWENTY ONE
PLEASE GO AHEAD. NOT COMPELLED
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF MY
GROUP GROWERS AND FRUSTRATED
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. THANKS FOR
THE TO LINE NINETY SIX I HAD.
MORE A NUMBER AFTER THE
CALIFORNIA. ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION. AND NEXT TO THE TO
NINE SIXTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
. GOOD AFTERNOON TO BRING A LA
CARTE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA TRACTION AND
PARTICIPATION IN RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. CONNECT
WITH US ONLINE SIXTY FOUR PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON MY
GOODNESS ARLEDGE WITH THE FAIR
WORKWEEK LEGISLATION AND
NONUNION RETAIL WORK WORK AND
SUPPORT THAT SB. SIX FIFTEEN.
THANKS TO THIS LINE NINETY
PLEASE BACK. MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS MARK SHOCKED CALIFORNIA
RURAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE
FOUNDATION AND SUPPORT. SIX OF
US IN LINE SIXTY EIGHT THE FIVE.
AND WITH A WITH A CALIFORNIA
CREDIT UNION AT THE PHOTO THANK
YOU. CONNECT SO THAT'S FINE
SEVENTY SEVEN PLEASE BY. GOOD
AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS BRIAN WELLS CALIFORNIA
FARM BUREAU FEDERATION IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. EXCELLENT
LINE ONE TWENTY THREE BUT- FOR
NEAR TERM MEMBERS SHALL DENTALS
ON BEHALF OF PETER IF YOU ARE A
LOCAL THIRTY NINE THIRTY IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANKS FOR
THE TO LINE ONE OH FIVE PEOPLE
AND. NINE ONE OH FIVE BEHIND THE
. HELLO MY NAME IS ONE CALLED
THE WORK- CAN CROSS INTO RATIONS
STRONG SUPPORTER AT THE THINK
PROTECT. THANKS FOR THIS LINE
ONE FOURTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
REMEMBERS BURKE WHY BOTH THE ON
BEHALF OF THE FIFTY THE GENERAL
CONTRACTORS CALIFORNIA INTENDED
TO GO IN OPPOSITION. AND
ACTIVISTS LINED ONE OH FOUR
PLEASE GO AHEAD. CAN YOU HEAR ME
. THIS. R. TAYLOR KIRBY WITH THE
IV REGIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. AT
THE TIME IS NOTICING Q. BACK YOU
MISTER CHAIR OR THE MODERATOR
APPRECIATE THAT WILL COME BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS. SENATE ROSA. YES
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR I WANNA
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD YOU KNOW MY
EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT USUALLY
THE LOWER ON THE PAID A PERSON
IS FOR THEIR WORK- THEY USUALLY
CAN'T AFFORD OF GOOD HEALTH
INSURANCE. THEY USUALLY LIVE IN
CRAMPED OVERCROWDED CONDITIONS
AND THEIR- WITH THEIR FAMILIES
THEY USUALLY HAVE A HARD TIME
BUYING HEALTHY FOOD THAT SAID
WITH SANDRA I'M REALLY GLAD THAT
TODAY WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS
JUST ONE OF THE MANY CHALLENGES
THE POOR AND WORKING PEOPLE ARE
FACING EVERY SINGLE DAY SO- I
SUPPORT YOUR BILL THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. OTHERS SOON CENTER SMALL
GRAVES THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
AND LIKE MY COLLEAGUE- SENATOR
DOROS SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
CARING THIS IMPORTANT BILL- IT'S
SAD THAT WE WANT WORKERS TO WORK
SICK ON THE JOB AND THAT'S
ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS THE WHAT'S
BEEN SAID HERE THAT IT'S- KATIE.
FOR WORKERS TO BE SICK ON THEIR
JOB. LET ALONE THE DANGER TO
THEMSELVES. THE PRECARIOUSNESS
OF THEIR FAMILIES BECAUSE
THEY'RE SICK BUT ALSO THEIR CO
WORKERS AND THE CUSTOMERS AND
CONSUMERS THAT WILL COME IN
CONTACT WITH THEM. CALIFORNIA'S
ABOUT TO SURPASS GERMANY'S
ECONOMY. IN GERMANY GIVE SIX
WEEKS OF PAID SICK LEAVE THEY
EVEN HAVE SOMETHING CALLED
BURNOUT. SO IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT
YOUR HEALTH IS ABOUT YOUR MENTAL
HEALTH AND HOW YOU'RE FEELING
AND BURN OUT SICK LEAVE. SO IF
WE ARE REALLY GOING TO THROW
DOWN AND RIVAL IN THIS GLOBAL
ECONOMY WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO TAKE CARE. OF
CALIFORNIA'S WORKERS SO I'M SO
GLAD THAT YOU WERE DOING THIS-
WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS SOON
WE'RE GONNA FIGHT FOR IT AND-
IT'S JUST THE BEGINNING BECAUSE
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CATCHING UP
TO DO. WITH THE REST OF THE
WORLD SINCE WE ARE NOW A GLOBAL
ECONOMY SO THANK YOU FOR THIS.
THANK YOU SENATOR OF OTHER
COMMENTS QUESTIONS CONCERNS-
WILL COME BACK- TO THE AUTHOR
FOR AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF
THIS THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
THANK YOU TO IT- SENATORS A
SMALL GROUP OF US AND TO CENTER
COULD ALSO AS WELL- YOU KNOW
WE'VE GOT. I THINK OVER THE LAST
COUPLE YEARS WE'VE SEEN ABOUT
OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DEATHS
FROM KOBE- BUT EVEN ASIDE FROM
CODED. WE HAVE A WE HAVE SEEN
FOLKS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN KILLED
BECAUSE OF THE FLU AND RSV. AND
ON TOP OF THAT THEY HAVE
FAMILIES PEOPLE ARE WORKING. TEN
TWELVE HOURS A DAY. TRYING TO
HOLD DOWN A FAMILY TRYING TO
FIGURE IT OUT AND FIND
THEMSELVES EVERY SINGLE DAY IN A
CONUNDRUM BECAUSE THEY DON'T
KNOW WHAT TO DO- AND THAT'S NOT
FAIR NOT IN THE FOURTH LARGEST
ECONOMY AS SENATOR. MALIK WEBER
SAID THE FOURTH LARGEST ECONOMY
SHOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THESE
HARD WORKING INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
ARE ESSENTIAL WORKERS. AND THAT
OF OUR REAL ROOT OF WORKERS AS
WELL WHO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING AT
THE NATIONAL LEVEL BECAUSE
THERE'S NO FEDERAL LEAVE POLICY
AS WE KNOW. SO CALIFORNIA CAN
LEAD IN ANYTHING IT'S TO SAY YES
ALL WORKERS REGARDLESS OF WHAT
BUSINESS THERE THEY COME FROM
OTHER TO SMALLER LARGE ONE THAT
THEY ALL DESERVE THE RESPECT
THAT THEY DESERVE AND THAT IS TO
ENSURE THAT. SICKLY POLICIES
THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING
RETALIATED AGAINST FOR- THEIR
SICK LEAVE THAT REQUEST AS WELL
THAT THAT THAT IT THAT THAT.
BETTER IT'S INCLUDED IN THIS
POLICIES BUT THAT WE CONTINUE
PUSHING FORWARD- I WILL ALSO
NOTE TOO THAT THERE'S ABOUT
FOURTEEN OTHER STATES. MANY OF
WHICH ARE NOT VERY PROGRESSIVE
AT ALL. THAT HAVE MORE THAN A
FIVE DAYS OF PAID SICK LEAVE.
KIND OF A SHAME. SO I WOULD JUST
ASK US TO THINK ABOUT THAT- AND
THINK ABOUT THE LUXURY THAT MANY
OF US ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE AND
SO MANY OF US TO BE ABLE TO TAKE
TIME OFF WHEN WE NEED TO. SO
WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SENATOR DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND
I WANT TO- REMINDED THE SENATOR
HAS AGREED THE AUTHORS AGREED
TO- TAKE THE AMENDMENTS. TO THAT
EARLIER SO THE MOTION WOULD
INCLUDE- AS AMENDED. AND THERE'S
A MOTION BY SENATOR DRAWS SO.
UNLESS YOU SYSTEM TO CALL THE
ROLL PLEASE. FILE ITEM NUMBER
SIX SB SIX SIXTEEN AND THE
MOTION IS TO PASS BUT FIRST
DEMAND AND WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
SENATOR CORTEZ A AYE. DADDY AYE
SENATOR WILL GO WILK NO SENATOR
DORADO. DORADO ICE SENATOR
LAYERED. LAYERED HI SENATOR
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS I SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS HI THIS BILL IS OUT FOUR
TO ONE. ALRIGHT THE BILL'S UP
FORTY ONE. THANK YOU AND WILL
TURN NOW TO- CENTER RUBIO WHO.
SORRY SIR PORTANTINO EVEN
WAITING FOR AWHILE- THIS CENTER
RUBIO GOT HERE JUST IN TIME. A
GOOD TIME IN HER PURCHASE TWO
BILLS FIRST ONES SB SIX TWENTY
SIX YOU MAY PROCEED WHEN READY.
THANK YOU WHERE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. TODAY I'M HERE
CALPERS AT TO PRESENT SB SIX
TWENTY SIX WHICH PROTECTS
EMPLOYEES AND GUESTS OF HOTELS
AND MOTELS. FROM DANGEROUS
SECOND HAND SMOKE THIS BILL
PROHIBITS SMOKING TOBACCO
PRODUCTS WITHIN ALL HOTELS AND
MOTEL ROOMS IN CALIFORNIA. A
RECENT STUDY BY SAN DIEGO STATE
UNIVERSITY FOUND THAT HOTELS AND
MOTELS WITH DESIGNATED SMOKING
ROOMS POST THIRD HAND SMOKE AND
THIS EXPOSURE REALLY PUTS WHEN
DANGER EVEN THOUGH THEY STAYED
AWAY FROM. THE NON SMOKING ROOMS
THEY WERE STILL AFFECTED IN
NINETEEN SEVENTY THREE
CALIFORNIA PROHIBITED SMOKING
TOBACCO PRODUCTS INSIDE AND
CLOSED EMPLOYMENT PLACES BUT
PROVIDED AN EXEMPTION. THAT
ALLOWED SMOKING INSIDE 20% OF
ALL HOTELS AND MOTEL ROOMS AND
IT IS TIME THAT WE RECTIFY THAT-
WE KNOW THAT IT DOES AFFECT
EVERYONE'S HEALTH AND IT'S NOT.
HEALTHY FOR THOSE THAT WORK IN
THESE HOTELS AB WE NEED TO
PROTECT THEIR HEALTH OR
WELLBEING AND SPECIALLY BECAUSE
THEY'RE THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND THEY WORK TIRELESSLY TO
ENSURE ALL GUESTS LEAVE WITH THE
GREAT HOSPITALITY EXPERIENCE AND
THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF
THEM CALIFORNIA LATER LED THE
NATION WHEN ITS FIRST ADOPTED
THE INITIAL STATEWIDE BAN ON
SMOKING IN INDOOR WORKPLACES. AS
WELL AS INDOOR- PUBLIC SPACES
HOWEVER CALIFORNIA IS FALLING
BEHIND IN THIS PARTICULAR
INSTANCE AS SEVEN OTHER STATES
INCLUDING COLORADO CONNECTICUT
INDIANA MICHIGAN NORTH DAKOTA
VERMONT AND WISCONSIN CURRENTLY
HAVE EIGHT ONE AND 1100% BOUND.
A STUDY ALSO CONDUCTED FOUND
THAT THE SEVEN STATES. UP THE
SEVENTH ST POLICIES NOT ONLY
PROTECT WORKERS FROM THE HEALTH
DANGERS OF SECONDHAND SMOKE BUT
THEY RESULT IN A MORE EFFICIENT
WORK ENVIRONMENTS FURTHER MARK
TWAIN SMOKE FREE IN THE
WORKPLACE FLOORS CLEANING AND
MAINTENANCE EXPENSES INSURANCE
PREMIUMS AND LABOR COST. THIS
CAN RESULT IN GREATER PROFITS
HEALTHIER SAFER WITH WORK
ENVIRONMENTS. AND HAPPIER
EMPLOYEES AND WITH ME I HAVE TO
WITNESSES- THAT WILL TEST-
AUTUMN OGDEN DIRECTOR OF
LEGISLATION FOR THE AMERICAN
CANCER SOCIETY- I THINK THE ONLY
ONE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT-
COMMITTEE POLICY PRIMARY
WITNESSES TWO MINUTES BUDGET
THANK YOU- WHERE MEMBERS ARE
AMONG AND SMITH WITH THE
AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY.
TRANSACTION NETWORK- WE KNOW THE
DANGERS OF CENTER SECONDHAND
SMOKE EXPOSURE ARE WELL KNOWN
AND RESPECTED FOR CHRONIC
DISEASES INCLUDING LUNG CANCER.
SECONDHAND SMOKE CAN TRAVEL FROM
ONE GUEST ROOM TO ANOTHER AND
INTO COMMON AREAS OF HOTELS THE
DOORWAYS CRACKS IN WALLS
ELECTRICAL LINES VENTILATION
SYSTEMS AND PLUMBING PLUMBING.
SENATE BILL SIX TWENTY SIX WILL
EXPAND- CALIFORNIA SMOKING
PROTECTIONS THAT CLOSING THESE
LOOPHOLES IN CALIFORNIA SMOKE
FREE WORKPLACE LAW. THAT STILL
ALLOWS HOTELS AND MOTELS TO
PERMIT SMOKING IN UP 220% OF THE
GUEST ROOMS SMOKE FREE LAWS
IMPROVE AIR QUALITY IMPROVE
HEALTH. AND REDUCE SECONDHAND
SMOKE EXPOSURE RECEIVE A PUBLIC
SUPPORT AND REDUCE SMOKING FOR
THESE REASONS ACS CAN ASK FOR
YOUR ITEM. THANK YOU EXCELLENT.
HI AM JAMIE MARK AND WITH THE
AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION AND
WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL A
LINE MY COMMENTS WITH MY
COLLEAGUES ON A MOUNTAIN. D. AT
DANGERS OF SECONDHAND SMOKE
EXPOSURE ARE WELL KNOWN AND
RESPECTED FOR CHRONIC DISEASES
INCLUDING HEART DISEASE AND
STROKE. THE US SURGEON GENERAL
HAS CONCLUDED THERE IS NO SAFE
LEVEL OF EXPOSURE TO SECONDHAND
SMOKE IN THE CALIFORNIA AIR
RESOURCES BOARD HAS CLASSIFIED
IT AS A TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANT.
WE SUPPORT THIS BILL BECAUSE IT
WILL PROTECT GUESTS AND
EMPLOYEES OF HOTELS AND MOTELS
FROM THE DANGERS OF SECONDHAND
SMOKE IN RICHER SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM FOR ME TO
SUPPORT. SEEING NINE WILL GO TO
ANY PRIMARY OPPOSITION WITNESSES
. SEEING NONE YOU NEED ME TO
OPPOSITION TESTIMONY IN THE ROOM
SAYING NINE. LET'S GO TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. MODERATOR.
IF JOHN IF YOU LIKE TO COMMENT
THANKS FOR OPPOSITION IN A PRESS
ONE IF YOU'RE AT THIS TIME. AT
THIS TIME THERE'S NO ONE IN Q.
THANK YOU MODERATOR AT THIS.
POINT WILL PULL IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS
CONCERNS. THEY'RE LAYERED I
WOULD MOVE THE BILL. THANK YOU
ANYTHING ELSE. I LIKE TO MAKE A
QUICK COMMENT I'M SOMEBODY WHO
BELIEVES IN FREEDOM FOR FREEDOM
STOP TO YOUR NOSE. AND WHEN THE
MOST OFFENSIVE THINGS TO ME A
SECONDHAND SMOKE RECENTLY. GOT
BACK TO THE DISTRICT AND LEFT
AIRPORT AND AT THE- AT THE RED
LIGHT AND I SMELL SMOKE IN MY
WINDOWS ARE UP AND WAS IT THE
CAR NEXT TO ME. SMOKE SMOKE IN A
WAY SO THAT GOES THERE'S WIND
AND EVERYTHING ELSE GETS IN MY
CAR AND IS STILL THERE SO I
THINK THIS IS A GREAT BILL PLANS
SUPPORTED TODAY. AND WITH THAT
WITH THE CHAIRMAN BACK- CLERK
WAS PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. WHAT I
JUST HOPE ALREADY LET YOU CLOSE
AT ARMS SORRY YES MA'AM NO I
JUST WANTED SAM I'M REALLY GLAD
YOU'RE- DOING THIS AND RUBIO I.
FRANKLY MEMBERS TO SAY I DIDN'T
KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOOPHOLE-
FOR IT IN THE HOSPITALITY
INDUSTRY- I THOUGHT THIS WAS
SOMETHING THAT WAS. TAKEN CARE
OF A LONG TIME AGO SO- I THANK
YOU. PLEASE CLOSE I THANK YOU I
KNOW IT'S SHOCKING TO KNOW THAT
WE STILL ARE EXPOSED AT LEAST
20% OF- HOSPITALITY WORKERS TO
THIS. YOU KNOW OUT I'M NOT A
SMOKER AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS AS-
SENATOR WELL JUST STATE IT YOU
KNOW FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T
SMOKE A COULD BE SHOCKING SO I
JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
ASK FOR YOUR IPHONE- IT WAS-
MOTION. SAID EARLIER THE CENTER
LET ME THE MOTION TO RE REFER TO
APPROPRIATIONS. MARSHALL JUST
WISH TO CONTINUE WAS SURE. I'M
HEARING IT WHATEVER YOU WANT.
ALL RIGHT WE'LL- S. COMMITTEE
ASSISTANT TO COLD STATE THE
MOTION CALL THE ROLL THIS TIME
THANK YOU FILE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN
SB SIX TWENTY SIX THE MOTION IS
DUE PASSED BUT FIRST RE REFER TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR CORTEZ THE- HI. PROTEST
THE ICE CENTER WELL I WILK AYE
SENATOR DORADO. DORADO AYE
SENATOR LAYERED. LAYERED I
SENATOR SMALLWOOD CUEVAS
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS I'D THIS BILL
IS OUT FIVE TWO ZERO READ THE
BILLS OUT FIVE ZERO GRADUATION
SOON. WILL MOVE ON NOW TO YOUR
S. B. EIGHT FORTY EIGHT IF
YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU AND I
HAVE STILL HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR
MY VOICE HAS BEEN GONE FOR ABOUT
FIFTEEN DAYS AND IT'S STILL VERY
RASPY BUT I HOPE EVERYONE'S OKAY
WITH IT. I THANK YOU MR JIM
WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE WELCOME
YOU SHORTEN PRESENTATIONS TODAY
I THANK THE L. TODAY I'M PROUD
TO PRESENT S. B. EIGHT FORTY
EIGHT A BILL THAT WILL BRING
COMFORT TO PEOPLE WHO
EXPERIENCE. ONE OF THE WORST
TRAUMAS IMAGINABLE EVERY YEAR IN
THE UNITED STATES NEARLY A
MILLION FAMILIES EXPERIENCED THE
HEARTBREAK OF LOSING A
PREGNANCY. BECAUSE OF
MISCARRIAGE AND OTHER FAMILIES
ALSO EXPERIENCE DIFFERENT TYPES
OF TRAUMA. WHETHER IT IS AN
ADOPTION AGREEMENT FALLING
THROUGH THE CRACKS FOR AN
UNSUCCESSFUL IVF TREATMENT. ALL
IN THE HOPES OF BECOMING A
FAMILY. AND THAT'S ALSO AGAIN
VERY TRAUMATIC SB EIGHT FORTY
EIGHT WILL ENSURE THAT FAMILIES
EXPERIENCING REPRODUCTIVE LAWS
HAVE THE TIME THEY NEED TO
PROCESS OUR GRIEF AND HEAL FROM
IT. BY PROVIDING THEM UP TO FIVE
DAYS OF JOB PROTECTED LEAVE.
CALIFORNIA LEADS THE NATION IN
SEVERAL TYPES OF V. PROGRAMS
INCLUDING PROVIDING UP TO FIVE
DAYS OF BEREAVEMENT LEAVE. AFTER
THE DEATH OF A CLOSE FAMILY
MEMBER. HOWEVER CALIFORNIA-
EXISTING LAW DOES IT MAKE NOT
ALLEGE THE PAIN AND SUFFERING
AFTER A MISCARRIAGE FOR A
REPRODUCTIVE LOSS IF DONE. ALSO
COMPETING ONLY TRIP TO MATIC.
THIS IDEA OF PROVIDING TIME OFF
WORK TO RECOVER FROM THIS TRAUMA
IS NOT ON PRESIDENT SAID SEVERAL
OTHER STATES AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE PASSED
LEGISLATION TO PROVIDE LEAVE FOR
REPRODUCTIVE LOSS EVENTS. AND
MANY PRIVATE EMPLOYERS HAVE
ALREADY VOLUNTARY ADOPTED
POLICIES TO PROVIDE THE SPEAK TO
THEIR EMPLOYEES. SB EIGHT FORTY
EIGHT TAKES A POT FULL BALANCED
APPROACH TO PROVIDING THIS TIME
OFF AND REQUIRES THE EMPLOYER TO
KEEP CONFIDENTIAL THE REASON THE
EMPLOYEE HOUSE WEEK. QUEST AT
THE SLEEVE IN ORDER TO PROTECT
THE PRIVACY OF EMPLOYEES WHO
HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS TRAUMA.
THE BILL PROHIBITS AN EMPLOYER
FROM DISCRIMINATING AGAINST AN
EMPLOYEE WHO EXERCISES THE RIGHT
TO LEAVE. AND IT ALLOWS AN
EMPLOYEE TO EITHER YOU USE
EXISTING PAY LEAVE POLICY. OR
TAKE THIS OFF ON PAID THE MOST
IMPORTANT THING IS THAT
EMPLOYEES WILL KNOW THAT THEY
CAN TAKE THAT TIME OFF TO HEAL
WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT
THEIR JOB LOSS. SB EIGHT FORTY
EIGHT IS SUPPORTED BY A BROAD
COALITION OF ORGANIZATIONS AND I
AM COMMITTED TO CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH CAL CHAMBER. AND THEIR
CONCERNS- TODAY JOINING ME AT TO
SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BILL IS
KAREN WHITE A LOAN FROM LONG
BEACH AND JULIE OCT AND A
REGISTERED NURSE FROM SAN JOSE.
WE WILL GO TO THE SUPPORT
WITNESSES LEAD SPORT WITNESSES
AT THIS TIME PLEASE COMPORT
STATE YOUR NAME YOU OF A COUPLE
MINUTES EACH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU
DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN CORTESE
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS HEIDI PILE AND I AM A
DELEGATE WITH THE JUNIOR LEAGUE
THE CALIFORNIA STATE PUBLIC
AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. OF SENATORS
CAST BACK IN TODAY I'LL BE
AMPLIFYING THE VOICE OF A FELLOW
EVERYDAY CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT
OF SB EIGHT FORTY EIGHT. WHO IS
NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY'S
HEARING. ERIN BARTOLOME AS A
BEHAVIORAL SERVICES PROFESSIONAL
IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL SETTING WHO
RESIDES IN LONG BEACH
CALIFORNIA. AND SHE WRITES.
DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN CORTESE A
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THANK
YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO VOICE MY
SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL EIGHT
FORTY EIGHT. OVER THE COURSE OF
SEVERAL MONTHS IN TWO THOUSAND
EIGHTEEN MY PARTNER AND I
EXPERIENCED MULTIPLE
UNSUCCESSFUL ATTEMPTS WITH
FERTILITY TREATMENTS. ARE
FERTILITY TREATMENT TEAM WAS
AMAZING OUR DOCTOR WAS ETHICAL
AND FAIR THEY DID EVERYTHING
RIGHT. THEY WALKED US THROUGH
THE STEPS AND WHAT TO EXPECT.
THEY REQUIRED AN INITIAL
ASSESSMENT THROUGH A LICENSED
THERAPIST TO ENSURE WE ARE DOING
THIS FOR THE RIGHT REASONS AND
THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THE
PERCENTAGES OF SUCCESS BASED ON
MY OWN PERSONAL FACTORS FOR
THOSE PROCEDURES. HE STATED UP
FRONT THAT HE WOULD NOT
RECOMMEND ANY MORE THAN FORTY
FIVE TREATMENTS BEFORE HAVING TO
MAKE A DECISION. ON MORE
INVASIVE AND COSTLY OPTIONS OR
TO DECIDE THE CONCEPTION WAS NOT
GOING TO BE IN THE CARDS FOR US.
EVEN WITHOUT SUPPORT I WAS TAKEN
COMPLETELY BY SURPRISE WITH HAVE
DEVASTATING EACH AND EVERYONE OF
THESE ATTEMPTS FELT. THE AFTER
EFFECTS OF ONE FAILED ATTEMPT
BLOOD INTO THE NEXT ONE ROUNDS
OF HORMONE SHOTS AND FOLLOW UP
ASSESSMENTS HAPPEN AND SORT
SHORT SUCCESSION. TO TRACK
PROGRESS AND VIABILITY OF THE
MONTHLY AYE YO AYE PROCEDURE.
THE STRESS AND GRIEF OF LOSS
WITH CUMULATIVE. WITH EACH
FAILED ATTEMPT. IT WAS SURREAL
TO FEEL LIKE YOU ARE MOURNING
SOMETHING OR SOMEONE WHO NEVER
WAS. IT WAS EVEN WEIRDER WHEN
YOU WORK IN AN INDUSTRY
POPULATED MOSTLY BY WOMEN. AND
SEEING FRIENDS AND CO WORKERS
HAVING THEIR OWN FERTILITY
SUCCESSES. I STRUGGLE TO NOT
FEEL RESENTFUL OF THOSE AROUND
ME. ONCE I DECIDED TO GIVE UP ON
MY FERTILITY JOURNEY IT TOOK
OVER TWO FULL YEARS TO FEEL LIKE
MYSELF AGAIN. HAD LEAVE BEEN
AVAILABLE TO ME PERHAPS THE TIME
SPENT HEALING FROM THOSE
REPRODUCTIVE LOSSES. WOULD HAVE
BEEN LESS. AND NOW IN HINDSIGHT
DO I REALIZED. I NEEDED THE TIME
TO PROCESS. AND GIVE EACH LOST
THE RESPECT IT DESERVED. AFTER
THE COMMITTEE PLEASE CONSIDER
PASSING SB EIGHT FORTY EIGHT.
AND ASK FOR YOUR IPHONE. THANK
YOU FOR TESTIMONY NEXT WITNESS
WAS. THANK YOU DISTINGUISHED
CHAIRMAN CORTESE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS YOU KNOW
GREENLEE AND I'M A DELEGATE WITH
THE JUNIOR LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA
STATE PUBLIC AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
ALL SORTS HEALTH BACK. I'M
DELIVERING TESTIMONY TO FINANCE
PART OF. THE EIGHT FORTY EIGHT
AND A HALF OF ANOTHER WITNESS
WHO CANNOT ATTEND. JULIE ARE
DONE AS A SAN JOSE BASED
REGISTERED NURSING CASE MANAGER
WITH A BACKGROUND IN PEDIATRICS
NICK YOU IN LABOR AND DELIVERY.
AND SHE WRITES. GOOD AFTERNOON-
CHAIRMAN SENATOR CORTESE AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE I WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
PROVIDE TESTIMONY ON BEHALF OF
SENATE BILL EIGHT FORTY EIGHT.
AS AN RN. I'M INTIMATELY AWARE
FIFTY FROM FULFILLING
RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN FAMILIES.
IN BETWEEN PARENTS AND THEIR
CHILDREN I'VE SEEN LOVE ENJOY
AYE I'VE ALSO SEEN THE HOPES
DASHED WHEN THINGS DON'T GO
ACCORDING TO PLAN. A LOSS OF A
CHILD EVEN A POTENTIAL ONE IS A
DEEP LOSS THAT NEEDS TO BE
RECOGNIZED THERE'S NOTHING LIKE
. PLANNING FOR CHILD THAT
DOESN'T ARRIVE. THANKS NEED TIME
TO BE TO GO. TO PLAN AND TO HEAL
SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD
WITH THE NEXT STEP UP THEIR
LIVES. THEY DON'T NEED THE ADDED
STRESS OF HAVING TO PUT ON A
BRAVE FACE AND COME TO WORK AND
PRETEND LIKE NOTHING IS
HAPPENING. IN THE JOB THE WOMEN
AND THEIR PARTNERS AT THIS
VULNERABLE TIME RECOGNIZES THAT
THEY ARE HUMANS WITH LIVES
OUTSIDE OF WORK. AND IT
RECOGNIZES AND- RECOGNIZES THAT
THEIR EMPLOYERS CARE ABOUT THEM
OUTSIDE OF THEIR PRODUCTIVITY
WITHIN THE WORKPLACE. I BELIEVE
THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT AND
SIGNALS TO EMPLOYEES THAT THEY
MATTER. AND THAT THEIR FAMILIES
OR POTENTIAL FAMILIES AFTER.
FROM HER TO THE AND MEMBERS.
YEAH I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
AYE VOTE ON THIS BILL AND THANK
YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF
THIS IMPORTANT MATTER THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR TESTIMONIUM OTHER
SUPPORT WITNESSES IN THE ROOM.
ANYONE WANT TO COME FORWARD
EXPRESS POSITION. MISTER
CHAIRMAN VERSION GUSMAN ON
BEHALF OF THE CONSUMER ATTORNEYS
OF CALIFORNIA. AMERICA YOUR SHE
HARM BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
WOMEN LAWYERS ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT. SHARON TERMINAL BEHALF
OF LEGAL AID AT WORK IN SUPPORT
. GENYA CASSIDY CALIFORNIA WORK
AND FAMILY COALITION IN SUPPORT
. ALL RIGHT NOW FOR THE
OPPOSITION SIDE- WE'D OPPOSITION
WITNESS PLEASE. A GOOD AFTERNOON
MR SURE MEMBERS ACTUALLY HOFFMAN
ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE IN AN OPPOSE UNLESS.
AMENDED POSITION- I WANT TO
THINK THE OFFER FIRST AND
FOREMOST IN THE WITNESSES FOR
BRINGING AWARENESS TO THIS
ISSUE. I KNOW IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR A LOT OF WORKERS
IN PERSONAL TO MYSELF. AS WELL
WHO'S ALSO EXPERIENCED PREGNANCY
LOSS AND FEEL FERTILITY
TREATMENTS. I'M A WITH THAT
SAID- WE ARE WORKING VERY
CLOSELY THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE THE
REACHED OUT VERY EARLY. I'M JUST
ON- TELLING SOME OF THE SCOPE OF
THE QUALIFYING EVENTS UNDER THE
BILL AS WELL AS A POTENTIAL CAP
ON THE AMOUNT OF LEAD. I'M SO
AGAIN JUST WANTED TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR RAISING THE ISSUE AS
WELL AS WORKING WITH THANK YOU.
WHO TO THANK YOU FOR COMING
FORTH HER TESTIMONY ON ANYONE
ELSE ON THE OPPOSITION SIDE
ENTERS WILL LEAD WITNESS. ANYONE
ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION. THAT WOULD BE NAME
TITLE IN OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM
- SEE NONE WILL GO TO THE
MODERATOR NEST MODERATOR TO
QUEUE UP ANY WITNESSES ON THE
TOLL CARPETS ON IT THIS TIME.
THEY'VE DONE IT IF YOU LIKE TO
COMMENT ON SB EIGHT FOUR EIGHT-
YOU CAN PRESS ONE ZERO AT THE
TIME. AND WE'LL GO TO LINE
EIGHTY ONE PLEASE GO AHEAD.
REMEMBER THIS IS ERIN EVAN
BOURNE BEHALF OF NARAL PRO
CHOICE CALIFORNIA. CALIFORNIA
NURSE MIDWIVES ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME
THERE'S NO OTHERS IN Q. OKAY
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MODERATOR IN
THE- MEMOS BILL NUMBERS I'M NOT
HELPING YOU WITH A VERY MUCH-
ANYONE HERE WISH TO COMMENT OR-
SUGGEST ANYTHING OR MAKE A
MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE NEED FOR
THE VOEPEL ONE JUST THINK OF THE
AUTHOR FOR THIS IMPORTANT PIECE
OF LEGISLATION THAT SUPPORTS
WOMEN. WHO DEAL WITH FERTILITY
AND PREGNANCY ISSUES IT'S A VERY
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND- BEEN
DOWN THAT ROAD MYSELF. AND JUST
WANT TO SAY HOW IMPORTANT IT IS
TO HAVE FOR WOMEN TO HAVE TIME.
TO HEAL. I ALSO WANNA THANK THE
AUTHOR AND JUST TO A QUESTION-
IS THIS OF A BENEFIT OR RIGHT
THAT YOU'VE SEEN. EITHER IN
OTHER IN SOME PARTS OF THE STATE
OR IN OTHER STATES SOME- IT'S
SUCH AN IMPORTANT PIECE I'M I
HAD NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE AND-
WAS WONDERING HOW. EXTENSIVE
THIS OUT. YEAH THERE'S OTHER
EXCUSE ME THERE'S OTHER PLACES
THAT DO OFFER BUT IN PARTICULAR
WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS- COMPANIES
THEMSELVES. ARE COMING FORWARD
AND OFFERING THIS TO THEIR
EMPLOYEES JUST YOU KNOW
VOLUNTARY SO IT'S MORE AND MORE
COMMON AS WE KNOW- FERTILITY IN
WOMEN IT IS YOU KNOW THEY'RE
HAVING A HARDER AND HARDER TIME
AS- FOR MANY FACTORS BUT ANYHOW
WE SEE IT A LOT IN THE PRIVATE
SECTOR WHERE PEOPLE ARE
VOLUNTARILY. OFFERING THIS THIS
. REALLY THANK YOU. SEE NO ONE
ELSE SO WISHING TO BE RECOGNIZE
WE GIVEN OPPORTUNITY CLOSE AND
RUBIO. JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
NINE. IN THE THANK YOU AND WE DO
HAVE A MOTION BY CENTER
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS- WILL HAVE THE
COMMITTEE SYSTEM STATE THE
MOTION AND CALL THE ROLL. FILE
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SB EIGHT FORTY
EIGHT THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED
THE FIRST RE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY SENATOR
CORTEZ A- PROTEST THE ICE AND-
WELL HI WILK AYE SENATOR DORADO.
DORADO ICE SENATOR LAYERED
LAYERED ICE CENTER SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS SMALLWOOD CUEVAS AYE THIS
BILL IS OUT FIVE TWO ZERO THREE
TWO BILLS OUT FIVE TO ZERO THANK
YOU GUYS ALLEGIANCE AND THANK
YOU IN. WE WILL NOW GO TO CENTER
PORTANTINO WHO'S BEEN A VERY
PATIENT MAN. TODAY I GUESS WE
ALL HAVE BEEN A LITTLE PATIENT
TODAY. YOU'RE WELCOME IT'S BEEN
A BUSY DAY FOR EVERYBODY MISTER
CHAIR YES. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS
HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT SO I'M
GONNA KEEP MY COMMENTS
RELATIVELY SHORT SINCE. SB SIX
FORTY IS VERY SIMILAR TO A BILL
THAT CENTER DIRECTOR DORADO
CARRIED LAST YEAR THEY GOT
THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE.
FUNDAMENTALLY THE STATE HAS AN
INTEREST IN ENSURING THAT. OUR
UNIVERSITIES AND OUR STUDENTS
AND OUR TAXPAYERS ARE RESPECTED
AND SO. WHEN UNIVERSITIES-
CONTRACT OUT FOR SERVICES- THE
INTERESTS OF THE STATE SHOULD BE
PROTECTED AND- YOU COULD NOT
HAVE DISRUPTIONS DUE TO- STRIKES
ANOTHER. UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES
AND SO- HAVING PEACE AGREEMENTS
BETWEEN ENTITIES HAVING FOLKS.
DECIDE UP FRONT THAT WE'RE GONNA
HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE
STATE AND THE WORK FORCE AND THE
STUDENTS AND THE TAXPAYERS.
RESPECTED SHOULD BE IN LAW AND
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN
AYE VOTE. RIGHT CENTER- ANYWAY.
WITNESSES AT THIS TIME IF YOU
WANNA CALL. WE HAVE PROFESSOR
WITH. SAUCE FROM. UC DAVIS AND
DR RICHARD A MERE. HAVILDAR IN
FROM- JUST ONE FROM SANTA MONICA
COLLEGE I BELIEVE ALREADY
DEPLETED WHAT'S YOUR NAME. THE
STATE THEIR NAMES- WILL GET THIS
ON THE RECORD. THAT WE WERE A
SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER THAT-
THERE NEEDS TO BE- I THINK IT
WAS YESTERDAY THERE NEEDS TO BE
SOME KIND OF A BLOOPER REEL- AS-
ALL THIS TO ALL THE WITNESS
NAMES TO GET MESSED UP IN ALL
THESE COMMITTEES- BUT- ALL
JOKING ASIDE- WE INTEND TO GET
IT RIGHT. THE STATE YOUR NAME
UNIVERSITY FOR A COUPLE MINUTES
IT WAS CLOSE ENOUGH THAT AFFECT.
MY NAME'S THAT THE CSL SEVEN I'M
A PROFESSOR AT LAW AT UC DAVIS
SCHOOL OF LAW AND THE CO
DIRECTOR OF THE LABOR AND
COMMUNITY CENTER AT UC DAVIS. I
TEACH LABOR LINE EMPLOYMENT LOAN
AND I ALSO TEACH TO A TO THE LAW
SCHOOL SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT. AT
THREE POINTS THAT I WANT TO MAKE
IN SUPPORT OF THIS- BILL. FIRST
THE STATE HAS THE ABILITY. TO
USE THESE LABOR PEACE POLICIES
BECAUSE IT'S ACTING IN ITS
PROPRIETARY CAPACITY. THE CAL
STATE SYSTEM HAS A REAL INTEREST
IN ENSURING THAT THE SERVICES
THAT IT CONTRACTS- TO BE
PROVIDED ON ITS PROPERTY-
COMPLETED. WITH AS LITTLE
DISRUPTION TO ITS MISSION AS
POSSIBLE. MISTAKES EXIT IS
EXERCISING THAT PROPRIETARY
DISTANCE BILL BY ENSURING THAT
EMPLOYERS AND UNIONS OPERATE ON
CSU PROPERTY AND- ENTER INTO
AGREEMENTS. TO AVOID DISRUPTIONS
FROM LABOR ACTION. WITHOUT THESE
AGREEMENTS AND NATIONAL LABOR
RELATIONS ACT WOULD ALLOW LABOR
STRIKES PICKETS ACTIONS
BOYCOTTS. WHICH ARE ALL PART OF
THE ACCEPTED METHODS FOR
NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN ENTITIES
WITH THAT LABOR PEACE
AGREEMENTS. MOREOVER THE CSU HAS
A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE
REVENUES THAT COME FROM THE
SERVICE CONTRACTS AND THESE
LABOR ACTIONS WOULD DISRUPT.
THESE FINANCIAL INTERESTS.
SECOND THE DOESN'T IMPOSE WOMAN
. ON SEEKING TO DO. ON CSU. THAT
IS THE NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE
BUSINESSES AND A UNION FOR LABOR
PEACE AGREEMENTS IS OUTSIDE THE
SCOPE OF THE BILL. THE BILL
SIMPLY REQUIRES OF BUSINESSES
SEEK AGREEMENT FROM LABOR
ORGANIZATIONS THAT REPRESENT OR
SEEK TO REPRESENT WORKERS IN
THAT INDUSTRY. THIRD LABOR PEACE
AGREEMENTS ALREADY EXIST IN
SEVERAL PLACES ARE NOT UNCOMMON
NATIONALLY OR IN THE STATE.
THEY'VE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY
IMPLEMENTED AT VARIOUS SITES
INCLUDING- THE LOS ANGELES AND
SAN FRANCISCO AIRPORTS. THE
STATE OF NEW YORK AND MARYLAND
LOS ANGELES CITY LONG BEACH.
SANTA MONICA MALIBU SCHOOL
DISTRICT SANTA MONICA COLLEGE OF
LOS ANGELES COUNTY- THE PORT OF
OAKLAND SAN FRANCISCO BOARD
SYSTEM. THE CITIES OF PORTLAND
CHICAGO BALTIMORE AND WASHINGTON
DC AND NEW YORK CITY. AND THE
COUNTIES OF MIAMI DADE AND
MILWAUKEE- I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME TODAY- AND I URGE YOU TO-
SAY A ON THIS BILL. INCREASE
THANKS FOR TESTIMONY NEXT
WITNESS PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON
SENATORS ARE MY NAME IS DR
RICHARD TO BUILDER IN JUST ONE
IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS
AFTERNOON IN SUPPORT OF SB SIX
FORTY. I'M AT THE- I THINK WHAT
I AM I AM THE- OF CO DIRECTOR OF
THE PUBLIC POLICY INSTITUTE AT
SANTA MONICA COLLEGE. AND I'M
ALSO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE
BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR THE SANTA
MONICA MALIBU UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT. THE CITY OF SANTA
MONICA HAS A LARGE HOSPITALITY
INDUSTRY AND HAS SEEN LOTS OF
STRIKES AND PICKETING AND CIVIL
DISOBEDIENCE CAUSING SERIOUS
DISRUPTIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE SANTA MONICA MALIBU UNIFIED
SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS LAND WITH A
PROMINENT HOTEL ON IT. THE HOTEL
IN OUR DISTRICTS LAND PRODUCES
REVENUE FOR OUR DISTRICT IN
SUPPORT OF OUR STUDENTS. PRIOR
TO OUR SCHOOL BOARD ADOPTING A
LABOR PEACE POLICY THERE WAS
MUCH CONFLICT IS THE HOTEL WAS
THE SITE OF PICKETS STUDENT
PROTESTS LAWSUITS AND
DEMONSTRATIONS. AT OUR SCHOOL
BOARD MEETINGS THIS ONE ARE FOR
MANY YEARS AND WAS A PROBLEM.
CAUSING DISRUPTIONS ALONG SIDE
OUR FLAGSHIP HIGH SCHOOL SANTA
MONICA HIGH SCHOOL. WE TOOK
ACTION TO PROTECT OUR REVENUE
AND OUR ACADEMIC AND EDUCATIONAL
INTERESTS BY ADOPTING A POLICY
THE BUSINESSES OPERATING ON
DISTRICT OWNED. LAND PROVIDE A
NO STRIKE PLEDGE WITH THE
APPROPRIATE UNION IN THE
INDUSTRY. THIS POLICY ENSURES
THAT THERE WILL BE NO STRIKES
PICKETS BOYCOTTS OR DISRUPTIONS.
IN THIS MOVE WORKED FOR US SINCE
ADOPTING THE LABOR PEACE POLICY
THERE HAVE BEEN ZERO LABOR
CONFLICTS NO STRIKES PICKETS ARE
BOYCOTTS. AND THUS NO
DISRUPTIONS TO OUR ACADEMIC AND
EDUCATIONAL MISSION AND SANTA
MONICA MALIBU UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT. THE POLICY HAS BEEN A
SUCCESS IT IS SUCCESSFUL SO MUCH
THAT SANTA MONICA COLLEGE HAS
ALSO ADOPTED A LABOR PEACE
POLICY. AND AGAIN THAT'S I'M
JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS
AFTERNOON TO SAY TO YOU THE
SUCCESS WE'VE HAD WITH US. AND
SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS THANK YOU
THANK YOU APPRECIATE THE
TESTIMONY OTHERS WHO WISH TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT OTHERS IN THIS-
COMMITTEE HEARING ROOM INCOME
FOR NOW- SEEN NONE ARE THERE ANY
OPPOSITION- WITNESS AS-
WITNESSES. UP COME FORWARD AND
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE A
COUPLE MINUTES TO PROCEED. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH ERIC BACH WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE I DO NOT
HAVE A POSITION ON THIS BILL AT
THIS TIME. I JUST WANT TO SAY
THAT WE DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS
ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION WE HAVE
SOME UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES A
MONTH OR TWENTY THREE CAMPUSES-
WE'VE HAD AN OPTION TO SPEAK
WITH THE AUTHOR ERNEST STAFF
ABOUT THAT AND WE HOPE TO
CONTINUE THIS DIALOGUE AS THE
BILL MOVES FORWARD. THANK YOU
VERY HE WAS WALKING. INTO ANY
OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES-
ANYONE WISHING TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL- WE WILL
GO TO THE MODERATOR KNOWN AS
MODERATOR- TO WELCOME. ANY
WITNESSES SUPPORT OR OPPOSE IT
THIS TIME ON THE TELECONFERENCE
ON. AND RECOLLECTED COMMENTS
SUPPORT OPPOSITION OF SB SIX
FORTY IN A PRESS ONE IF YOU'RE A
TIME. AND WE JUST MOMENT.
ACTRESS WILL GO TO LINE ONE TEN
PLEASE BUT. LINE ONE TENURE
LINES OPEN. HI MY NAME IS MY
WASHINGTON I'M GOING TO I'M A
STUDENT AT CAL STATE LONG BEACH
I'M HERE WITH CASEY DUNNE MARK.
ACT HEALTHY DOMINGUEZ HILLS AND
WE'RE BOTH IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THE BILL. THANKS TO GO TO LINE
ONE EIGHTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
I'M NANCY GREENSTEIN TRUSTEE AT
SANTA MONICA COLLEGE AND I AM
AND WHAT IS IT STILL. AT THIS
TIME THERE'S NO THERE'S A CUTE
THAT YOU MISTER CHAIR OKAY
THANKS MODERATOR COME BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE- COMMENTS
QUESTIONS CONCERNS OF NOT WILL
GIVE CENTER PORTANTINO
OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT
STABILITY ON OUR CAMPUSES
SHEPHERDING GOOD SENSE AND- OUR
STUDENTS BEST INTERESTS AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASTRONOMICAL RATE
TO DO WE HAVE A MOTION- THE
MOTION IS BY SENATOR ALSO A WILL
HAVE COMMITTEE ASSISTANT STATE
THE MOTION CALL THE ROLL. FILE
ITEM NUMBER NINE SB SIX FORTY
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED THE
FIRST THREE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR CORTEZ THE PROTEST THE
ICE SENATOR WELL NO WELL NOW
SENATOR DORADO DORADO AYE
SENATOR LAYERED. LAYERED ICE
CENTER SMALLWOOD CUEVAS
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS I THIS BILL IS
OUT FOUR TO ONE ALRIGHT THE
BILL'S OUT DIDN'T GRADUALLY
SENATOR AND- WILL HAVE CENTER
OVERLOOKED YOU'LL COME UP ON TWO
BILLS FIRST ONE BEING SB SIX
SIXTY. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PATIENCE AS WELL AND YOU WERE
HERE. EARLY AND OFTEN. THE BEING
THE THAT'S WHAT WE'LL SEE HERE.
RIGHT THEN YOU CAN PROCEED
WHENEVER READY OKAY THANK YOU SO
MUCH. OKAY THANK YOU CHAIR AND
MEMBERS I'M GONNA START WITH
SENATE BILL. EIGHT EIGHT ONE.
SIX SIX SIX SIX SEAT WHERE WE'RE
TAKING THEM FOLLOW I'M SORRY IT
WAS READ YOU WHAT SS SIX SIXTY
FIRST I CALLED THEM BOTH OUT I'M
SORRY I WAS JUST- AGILITY PEOPLE
KNOW THAT YOU HAD TO BILLS BACK
TO BACK BUT THE POWER WOULD BE
SB SIX XTRACKERS WE'LL START.
OKAY OKAY. RIGHT I THINK YOU
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE- SENATE BILL SIX SIXTY
WOULD CREATE A CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
RETIREMENT SYSTEM AGENCY COST IN
LIABILITY PANEL WITHIN THE STATE
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE
INFORMATION ON PENSION COSTS AND
LIABILITY THAT EACH
PARTICIPATION PARTICIPATING
AGENCY. ASSUMES BY PARTICIPATING
IN A PUBLIC RETIREMENT SYSTEM.
LAST YEAR SENATOR DOLLY AUTHORED
SB FOURTEEN TWENTY WHICH
REQUIRED AN AGENCY TO ABSORB THE
ACTUARIAL LIABILITY THAT THEIR
EMPLOYEES PREVIOUS PUBLIC
EMPLOYER INCURS DURING
RECIPROCITY AGREEMENTS. WELL SB
FOURTEEN TWENTY DID NOT PASS
THIS COMMITTEE LAST YEAR THERE
WAS ROBUST DISCUSSION AMONGST
THE MEMBERS THAT EMPHASIZE THE
NEED FOR A STUDY ON THIS ISSUE.
SB SIX SIXTY IS THE PRODUCT OF
THAT DEBATE. SMALLER GOVERNMENT
AGENCIES AND ROLL AREAS SPACE
THE MERIT OF CHALLENGES FROM
LIMITED REVENUE STREAMS TO
EMPLOYMENT RECRUITMENT AND
RETENTION ALL WHILE BEING ON THE
FRONT LINES OF MAJOR WILDFIRES.
AFTER AN EMPLOYEE TRANSFERS FROM
A SMALL AGENCY TO A LARGER ONE
WHICH HAS A HIGHER SALARY THE
LIABILITY OF THEIR PENSION ALSO
INCREASES BUT FOR THE FIRST
EMPLOYER. THIS PROBLEM OFF OFTEN
LEADS TO SMALLER AGENCIES
DEDICATING LARGER PORTIONS OF
THEIR BUDGETS TO PAINT ACTUARIAL
BENEFITS OF FORMER EMPLOYEES AT
HIGHER SALARIES. BY CREATING
THIS PANEL TO STUDY THE ISSUE
THE LEGISLATURE WILL HAVE THE
NECESSARY DATA TO ADDRESS THIS
ESCALATING PROBLEM. HERE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OUR CHIEF TIM
CORDERO AND JACOB TO GET THE
GANSKE WITH THE EL DORADO COUNTY
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS. RIGHT
THANK YOU WILL HAVE THE SUPPORT
WITNESSES COME UP AT THIS TIME
IN WHATEVER ORDER YOU WISH. TO
DISCUSS THE STATE YOUR NAME FOR
THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE A COUPLE
MINUTES EACH TO SPEAK UP TO TWO
WITNESSES. WELCOME. AND WE'RE
VERY STRONG FOR. ACCORDING TO
SOME OF THE PROJECT. ZERO
FIGURING. THE POCONOS SHOULD
OPPOSE A MINUTE I THINK WOMEN
SOME AUDIO DIFFICULTIES OF
SURGERY JUST LIKE YOU COME CLOSE
TO SEE IF THAT WORKS. OKAY THE
GREATEST GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE
WHERE WE WERE THANK YOU- ARE FAR
DISTRICT LIKE MANY OTHER
PARTICIPANTS IN THE FOOTHILLS WE
FACE MYRIAD CHALLENGES AS
PREVIOUSLY STATED WE ARE PART OF
FRONTLINE DEFENSE IN THE
CALIFORNIA WILDFIRE SEASONS. AND
WE ALSO WITH OUR PROXIMITY TO
THE SACRAMENTO VALLEY AND
SERVICE WILL BE AREA WE FACE
REGRET A RETENTION ISSUES WITH
EMPLOYEES IN OVER MY THIRTY SIX
YEAR CAREER WE'VE SEEN PLENTY OF
FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE BROUGHT IN
THAT WE TRAIN AND DEVELOP AND
THEN MOVED ON TO. HIGHER PAYING
SALARIES WITH THE SACRAMENTO
VALLEY DEPARTMENTS AND BURIED
APARTMENTS WHICH ONE AND WE TAKE
PRIDE IN THE FACT THAT WE'RE
DEVELOPING GREAT FIREFIGHTERS
THAT- CAN MOVE ON TO THOSE
LARGER MISSILE DEPARTMENTS.
HOWEVER IT DOES- CREATED UNFAIR
BURDEN IN OUR OPINION TO THE TO
THE PENSION LIABILITIES WHEN
THEY DO MOVE THOSE OTHER
DEPARTMENTS FOR THEIR SALARIES
CAN INCREASE SOMETIMES 100% WHEN
YOU GO TO DO THE MATH. ON THE-
THE PENSION OBLIGATIONS TO OUR
AGENCY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY OUR
CONSTITUENTS ARE TAXPAYERS. WE
FEEL WITH THERE'S AN UNFAIR-
PROPORTION OF THAT OF THAT COSTS
IT COMES BACK TO OUR DISTRICTS
WE'RE RIPPLE SUPPORT OF SB SIX
SIXTY TO DO THE STUDY. AND
ANALYSIS AND SO WE CAN PROVIDE
CLEAR INFORMATION TO OUR ELECTED
OFFICIALS THE GOVERNOR DISTRICT
AS WELL AS OUR TAXPAYERS AND
GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION INSIDE
. YEAH YOU FOR BEING HERE NEXT
WITNESS WAS. AGATE EVENING MY
NAME IS JACOB GANSKE I AM WITH
THE ELDORADO COUNTY PROFESSIONAL
FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION IAFF.
LOCAL THREE FIVE FIVE SIX AND
I'M IN SUPPORT. OF SENATE BILL
SIX SIXTY- I REPRESENT
FIREFIGHTERS WORK IN SMALL LOCAL
GOVERNMENT- IN IN RURAL AREAS
THAT WE ARE NOT UNLIKE IN
PLEASE. WHO WORKED OUT FOR OTHER
SMALL DISH A SPECIAL DISTRICTS
FOR EVEN SMALL CITIES AND AREAS
THAT YOU REPRESENT- IN ADDITION-
YOU KNOW I BELIEVE THAT SENATE
BILL SIX SIXTY WOULD EVEN HAVE
BENEFIT TO THE STATE- WHO. IN
PLACE MANY TEMPORARY SEASONAL
EMPLOYEES- LIKE FIREFIGHTERS WHO
WORK. FOR THE STATE AS WELL-
THE- ABILITY FOR OUR AGENCIES
REMAIN COMPETITIVE- REALLY-
REALLY RELIES ON- THEY BUILDING
PROVIDE. PROVIDE BENEFITS ON
WINDOWS BENEFITS OF THAT OUR
EMPLOYER PROVIDES IS- A PUBLIC
EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEM
BENEFITS. THE THE ONE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS
LIKE A FIREFIGHTER LIKE THE ONE
THAT MY PURPOSE FOR- AND LARGER
MAGNET DEPARTMENTS IS- FUNDING
MECHANISMS AND BECAUSE OF OUR
FUNDING CONSTRAINTS. HOW MARIA
LOOK FOR EVERY WAY POSSIBLE TO
MAKE SURE THAT- WE CAN FUNNELS
MUCH REVENUE TOWARDS- BY
RETAINING- AND- FOR WRITING
RECRUIT RECRUITING- FIREFIGHTERS
SENT TO WORK WITHIN A WITHIN A
RURAL AREAS. AND TO PROVIDE THEM
WITH GOOD DUNCAN A COMPETITIVE
BENEFITS SO- BECAUSE OF THAT
THAT FUNDING MAX- THE- I WON THE
BIG CHALLENGES FOR OUR AGENCY
HAS UNFUNDED LIABILITIES AND
REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR-
WITHOUT SENATE BILLS- SIX SIXTY.
IS TO LOOK AT THE EQUITY ON THAT
OUR EMPLOYERS ARE. RESPONSIBLE
FOR IN THAT MIX- AND BEING ABLE
TO CAPTURE SOME OF THAT FUNDING
THAT- LIKE THE- CHIEF HAS STATED
I MAY BE GOING TOWARDS PAYING
I'M HIGHER PENSION. UNFUNDED
PENSION LIABILITIES FOR
EMPLOYERS WHO DON'T WORK FOR
AGENCY NEW DON'T SERVE PEOPLE IN
OUR COMMUNITIES- IT WOULD BE
THOSE THOSE MONIES WOULD BE
BETTER SPENT SUPPORTING
FIREFIGHTERS WHO DO WORK IN OUR
COMMUNITIES AND TO- WHO ARE WITH
THE AGENCY- I WILL REITERATE
THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH-
CHANGING AN EMPLOYEE'S PENSION
AND ANYWAY. I'M JUST LOOKING AT-
FOR REVIEW OF THE EQUITY THE
OTHER PLAYERS ARE SHARING AND
FUNDING- THERE ON FUNDED-
PENSION LIABILITY CONTRIBUTIONS
THANK YOU. RIGHT THANK YOU- ARE
THERE ANY OTHERS IN THE ROOM WHO
WISH TO EXPRESS A SUPPORT
POSITION AT THIS TIME SO PLEASE
COMPORTS TO YOUR NAME.
AFFILIATION IN YOUR POSITION.
MAKING KAISER MAN I'M AN ELECTED
OFFICIAL WITH- POSSIBLE ON THE
ELDORADO COUNTY FIRE BOARD I'M
CHAIRMAN OF THE PRIOR BOARD AND
I'M ALSO CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE
COMMITTEE AND WE ARE IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND OTHER
MEMBERS. I'M MY NAME IS PAUL
GILCHREST I'M ON THE BOARD OF
DIRECTORS FOR OTHER OTHER COUNTY
I REPRESENT ELEVEN THOUSAND
PEOPLE IN THE SHINGLE SPRINGS
KALAM AREA. I STRONGLY REPRESENT
THEM AND SUPPORT THIS BILL. I
WILL OFFER PLEASE A YES VOTE
THANK YOU OKAY FISHER TESTIMONY-
IS THERE ANY LEAD OPPOSITION
WITNESS. WHO SAW HIM COME
FORWARD AT THIS TIME. C. KNOWN
COME FORWARD IS THERE ANYONE IN
THE COMMITTEE ROOM WHO WISHES TO
EXPRESS AN OPPOSITION POSITION
AT THIS TIME. HE MAY COME
FORWARD TO STATE THAT HAS SEEN
NINE WEST MODERATED PLEASE QUEUE
UP WITNESSES OF ANY KIND AT THIS
TIME. THEY DON'T MAKE YOU LIKE
TO COMMENT SUPPORT OPPOSITION OF
SB SIX SIXTY PRESS ONE AND
THEY'RE ALL RIGHT. AT THIS
MOMENT. AND AT THIS TIME THERE'S
NO ONE IN Q. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
MODERATOR- HE'S LET ME- JUST
MAKES A QUICK OBSERVATION BEFORE
TURN TO THE REST OF THE
COMMITTEE AND GIVE PEOPLE AN
OPPORTUNITY- THE FIRST OF ALL
LET ME JUST INDICATE- OF THE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY BUT- A
COUPLE OBSERVATIONS LIKE THE ONE
WHO KNOWLEDGE- HAVING. BEEN HERE
IT IS A CHAIR FOR A COUPLE OF
YEARS IT SENATOR DOLLY BROUGHT A
VERY SIMILAR BILL FORD- LAST
YEAR. SB FOURTEEN TWENTY AND- I
AND OTHERS ON THE COMMITTEE
RECOGNIZED ABA- HE WAS TRYING TO
FIX AT THE TIME BUT HIS APPROACH
WOULD HAVE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES LISA WAS THE- WHERE
THE COMMITTEE WAS OUT OF WHERE I
WAS AT- IN TERMS OF IMPACTING
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES ABILITY TO
TRANSFER- TO OTHER PUBLIC
EMPLOYERS AND PUBLIC BOARDS
ABILITY TO RECRUIT EXPERIENCED
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES SO. IT'S A
COMPLEX PROBLEM ON THE ONE HAND
WE DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THE
BENEFITS OF RECIPROCITY- BETWEEN
AGENCIES- BUT LOOK TO SEE IF
THERE ARE WAYS TO MITIGATE THE
NEGATIVE IMPACTS SOME WILL
PLACES EXPERIENCE AS WE HEARD
THE TESTIMONY TODAY- SO I'M NOT.
SURE SPECIFICALLY A SIGN OF A
NEW PANEL IS RIGHT WE DO THAT IT
SEEMS THAT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS
TO GET. A TO THE SAME OUTCOME IT
MAY BE MORE EFFICIENTLY- THE
CALIFORNIA ACTUARIAL BUDGET
PANEL PERHAPS CALPERS MEDIO A O.
WITH A PART IN FINANCE- BUT
HOPEFULLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
YOU CAN- CONSIDER- GOING FORWARD
YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT- YOU KNOW
ESPECIALLY IF THERE. ARE OTHER
CRITICAL CONCERNS EXPRESSED- IF
THE BILL ADVANCES TODAY- ASSIGN
THE STUDY TO EXISTING AGENCIES
OF COURSE CAN HELP WITH
PROCREATION SO I THINK. OF THIS
APPROVED. NAVIGATED THAT-
RECOGNIZE THAT CONCERN- YEAH
OBVIOUSLY- A DIFFERENT APPROACH
THAT THAT MITIGATES COSTS THE
NEW COULD BE HELPFUL- THAT'S NOT
FOR US TO DECIDE IT'S- SURE I'M
SURE SOMETHING THAT YOU YOUR
OFFICE IN YOUR ABLE STAFF OF
ALREADY TAKING A LOOK AT- BUT
ANYWAY IN THE INTEREST OF
LETTING YOU. YOU KNOW DEVELOP
THE THIS IDEA FURTHER IN IN
TRYING TO. GET TO THE OUTCOME I
THINK EVERYONE'S REALLY LOOKING
FOR HERE IN TERMS OF- THE
TESTIMONY THAT WE HEARD- SUPPORT
THE BILL THIS TIME. JUST AS AS
ONE SENATOR ON THE FOR A BE A BE
LOOKING TO SEE- IF SOME OF THESE
ISSUES THAT- I JUST. OF OBSERVER
OR COMMENTED ON- A RESOLVE SO
RESERVE THE RIGHT TO- TO VOTE
DIFFERENTLY IF I IF I NEED TO
BUT IT I THINK AT THIS POINT
IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE HOW THINGS
DEVELOP IN APPRECIATE YOU
STEPPING INTO THIS AND- YOU KNOW
A SERVICE LEADERSHIP TO TRY TO
GET IT DONE. THANK CHAIRED THE
SENATE ROSA- JUST ALONG THE
LINES OF- WITH HER- CHAIR JUST
SAID R. I ALSO WANTED TO RAISE
THE ISSUE OF- WHY IS IT
NECESSARY TO CREATE THE PANEL.
HAS THIS WHOLE. SORT OF. WE
COULD TURN INTO A REAL
BUREAUCRACY- BUT YOU KNOW WHY
CREATE A WHOLE NEW MECHANISM
WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE- LOCATED
STAFF BY THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S
OFFICE. HEY WE JUST GIVE THEM
THE- YOU KNOW THE DUTY AND THE
RESPONSIBILITY TO DO WHAT WE'RE
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE SO- I
ALSO WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT
BUT THAT'S JUST. I THINK IT'S
SORT OF A BASIC QUESTION NOT
HAVING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL
CONTENT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
HAS THANK YOU SUPPORT THAT
SENATOR- I JUST WANT TO NOTE
THAT YES I'M DEFINITELY AMENABLE
TO- NOT ADDING TO BUREAUCRACY.
AND HELPING TO PROTECT THE TAX
DOLLARS UP AND HOW WE- WORK
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT SAID WITH
HIS EXISTING AGENCIES. ON THE
ONE THING I WOULD NOTE IS REALLY
THE COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD-
THAT WOULD BE COLLECTED THE DATA
AND REPORTING ON THIS- TO BE
INCLUSIVE OF PUBLIC AGENCIES
THAT HAVE FEWER THAN ONE HUNDRED
EMPLOYEES. UP AT AND THAT ALSO
USE THE BENEFITS RETIREMENT
SYSTEM SO- OFTENTIMES ONE SIZE
FITS ALL POLICY COMES OUT OF
SACRAMENTO THAT HAS UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES ON OUR SMALL
JURISDICTIONS ARE SMALL RURAL
COMMUNITIES. SO JUST TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ARE ALSO GETTING
THE VOICE OF THOSE THOSE
IMPACTED IN THE SMALLER
COMMUNITIES. SO THAT'S THAT'S
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD
BE LOOKING FOR BUT I'M CERTAINLY
OPEN TO. MAKE IT AS
ACCOMMODATIONS AS WE MOVE
FORWARD. ALL RIGHT BEFORE YOU
CLOSE THE CENTER WHERE IT HAS
WELL I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN
A MOTION AT HESTER. NO BUT WE'LL
GET ONE OF DO YOU WANT TO MAKE
ONE THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO
DO IT WILL. MAKE THAT. JUST
GONNA SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE
ALL OF THE COMMENTS ON WORK.
THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE AND
I WOULD MOVE THE BILL. WONDERFUL
THANK YOU SO- IT IS SEEN NO ONE
ELSE WISHING TO BE RECOGNIZED AT
THIS TIME- WE WILL- S. THAT THE
COMMITTEE ASSISTANT TO. THE
STATE OF HIS- HE DID SUCH A GOOD
JOB MAKE THOSE LAST COMMENTS I
THINK I HELD AS A CLOSE BUT
AWARE OF THE OPPORTUNITY YES
OKAY I'LL KEEP IT SHORT. SO I
JUST WANTED TO CHECK KNOWLEDGE-
CENTER AT DELHI'S WORK ON THIS
AND WE ARE CO PARTNERING AS A
REPRESENTATIVES OF ELDORADO
DURING THIS NEXT YEAR AND A
HALF- DUE TO REDISTRICTING AND
AT THIS IS THE- ISSUE THAT'S
VERY. EL DORADO COUNTY DISTRICT-
I DID TOUR THE FACILITY AND SAW
EVERY INCH OF THE FIREHOUSE AND
HOW WELL. THEY SPEND THE MONEY
THAT'S A LOT OF TO THEM- AND
THERE'S VARIOUS ISSUES- THIS ONE
IN PARTICULAR. ALSO WILDFIRE
INSURANCE THAT REALLY HINDERS
ARE RULED OUT DISTRICTS FROM
BEING ABLE TO SERVE OUR
COMMUNITY SO- I WOULD KINDLY
URGE FOR YEAR I VOTE ON THIS SO
THAT WE CAN HELP TO. ADDRESS THE
SOLUTION. GREAT GREAT THANK YOU-
IN IN AGAIN- CENTER WHERE IT HAS
OFFERED THE MOTION WILL HAVE
COMMITTEE ASSISTANT- STATE THE
MOTION AND TAKE THE ROLE THIS
TIME. FILE ITEM NUMBER TEN SB
SIX SIXTY THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED THE FIRST RE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR CORTEZ. HI CORTEZ THE
ICE SENATOR WELL HI WELL I
SENATOR DORADO. DORADO AYE
SENATOR LAYERED. LAYERED ICE
AND- SMALLWOOD CUEVAS SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS HI THIS BILL IS OUT FIVE
TWO ZERO ALREADY UNANIMOUS VOTE
HANDLES OUT THANK YOU AND- IF
YOU'RE READY YOU CAN PRESENT SB
EIGHT EIGHTY ONE AT THIS TIME
PLENTIFUL OKAY I'M READY. SO I
WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN THIS IS
MY SECOND BILL ON THE AGENDA
TODAY- I DO WANT TO SAY THAT. I
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HARD
WORK OF MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE ME
ON ON THIS ISSUE AS WELL AS THE
KNOWLEDGE- SENATOR LENA GONZALEZ
IS BILL- THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO
THE ONE THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF
YOU TODAY. SENATE BILL EIGHT
EIGHT ONE INCREASES MANDATORY
PAID SICK LEAVE IN CALIFORNIA
FROM THREE DAYS TO FIVE DAYS A
YEAR. THIS BILL ALSO INCLUDES
PROVISIONS TO MINIMIZE THE COST
AND THE BURDEN TO SMALL
BUSINESSES AND PREEMPT ANY LOCAL
ORDINANCES IN ORDER TO CREATE A
STATEWIDE PAID SICK LEAVE
STANDARD. MANY BUSINESSES IN MY
DISTRICT ARE VERY SMALL AND
FAMILY OPERATED. THERE ARE OF
THE LIFE BLOOD OF MY COMMUNITY
AND LINE UP OUR MAIN STREETS TO
ATTRACT MILLIONS OF TOURISTS
YEAR ROUND. THIS BILL WILL
PROVIDE THOSE SMALL AND LARGE
BUSINESSES ALIKE WITH NECESSARY
PROTECTIONS FOR. THE PANDEMIC
CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE VIEW SICK
LEAVE. AND IT'S CERTAINLY
CHANGED THE WAY THAT ARE SMALL
BUSINESSES OPERATE ON MAIN
STREET. AS SUCH THE STATE'S
LEAVE POLICY NEEDS TO ADAPT AS
WELL. SENATE BILL EIGHT EIGHTY
ONE MARKS FOR THE FIRST TIME
THAT THE GREATER BUSINESS
COMMUNITY HAS RALLIED. IN
SUPPORT OF INCREASING PAID SICK
LEAVE AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS
SHOULD BE CELEBRATED. HERE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT- ASHLEY
HOFFMAN AND KRISTEN KELLY
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE- GOOD
AFTERNOON MR SHARE MEMBERS
ACTUALLY OFTEN ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
IN SUPPORT AT THAT SPEED IS ONE.
I DON'T THINK THE AUTHOR A LOT
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL AND SHE
STATED THIS IS- AN EFFORT BY THE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO REALLY TRY
TO SUPPORT AN INCREASE IN PAID
SICK LEAVE AND TO HAVE THAT
DISCUSSION- I DO WANT TO KNOW
YOU KNOW. AS A SENATOR MENTIONED
A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES WERE
REALLY STRUGGLING DURING THE
PANDEMIC I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF
DISCUSSION ABOUT COVE IN THE
PRIOR SICK LEAVE BILL. I DO WANT
TO REITERATE THAT AND BUSINESS
TO SHOULDERED A LOT OF THE COST
OF THE SICKLY BELIEVE. PAID MORE
THAN TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY HOURS
PER WORKER- INCLUDED SICKLY FOR
THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS WELL
AS THE UNLIMITED LEAVE THAT WAS
REQUIRED UNDER MACAU OSHA ETS-
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAID SICK
LEAVE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT CONTEXT
IN THE STATE THAT ARE
BUSINESSES. ESPECIALLY SMALL
BUSINESSES ARE IN RIGHT NOW- WE
ARE ABSOLUTELY AGAIN WILLING TO
HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT
INCREASING PAID SICK LEAVE BUT I
THINK FOR OUR MEMBERS IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON
SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE
BURDENS THAT WE HAVE FACED IN
THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. SINCE THIS
LEGISLATION WAS. PASSED BY THE
LEGISLATURE EFFECTIVE TWENTY
FIFTEEN- I KNOW I TALKED A LOT
ABOUT LOCAL ORDINANCES ON LAST
BILL SO I WILL SPARE YOU SOME.
BUT I DID JUST WANT TO IMPROVE
YOU KNOW WITH TEN DIFFERENT
STATE LAWS- IT HAS BECOME A
REALLY CONFUSING FOR OUR SMALL
BUSINESSES AGAIN AS I MENTIONED
PREVIOUSLY. WE GET CALLS ALL THE
TIME WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO
COMPLY WITH ALL TEN OF THESE
LAWS SIMULTANEOUSLY. AND SO THAT
IS WHY YOU KNOW WHEN WE ARE
LOOKING AT POTENTIAL FIXES TO
THE STATUTE WE THINK IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR THERE TO BE ONE
STATE STANDARD. AM I DOING
KNOWLEDGE YOU KNOW THAT SOME OF
THE LOCAL ORDINANCES DO
CURRENTLY OFFER MORE THAN FIVE
DAYS. AND THAT'S WHY I'M THE
BILL IS ACTUALLY RECENTLY
AMENDED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SO
IT WOULD GRANDFATHER IN- ANY
LOCAL ORDINANCE YOU KNOW WERE
WORKERS ALREADY MANDATED TO
RECEIVE SAY SEVEN DAYS- WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TAKING ME
AWAY FROM A WORKER IN THAT
SENSE- SO WE REALLY ARE
ABSOLUTELY WILLING. YOU KNOW TO
HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. TO WORK ON
ANY POTENTIAL CONCERNS- BUT
AGAIN WE THINK IT'S JUST REALLY
NECESSARY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO
TALK ABOUT INCREASING PAID SICK
LEAVE. THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT
WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST
EIGHT YEARS. THE STRUGGLES ARE
BUSINESSES THAT HAD IN SOME OF
THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT
HAVE COME FROM THE ORIGINAL
BILL. AND THE INCREASED COST
ESPECIALLY ON SMALL BUSINESS
THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU MISS
WITH THIS PLEASE. YES MISTER
CHAIRMAN A CHRISTMAS CEILIDH ON
THE HALF A SHERMAN THE SOCIETY
OF HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT
AND- ALSO THE- SENT A JOINT
LETTER WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
COUNCIL CAL SHERMAN. WE BELIEVE
THAT SB EIGHT EIGHT ONE THE
STRIKES THE RIGHT BALANCE IT
PROVIDES A- REASONABLE INCREASE
IN THE NUMBER OF PAID SICK DAYS
FROM THREE TO FIVE. BUT IT ALSO
INCLUDES MUCH NEEDED
IMPROVEMENTS. TO THE LEAVE
POLICY. IN ADDITION TO A STATE
WIDE STANDARD- DESPITE THE
GRANDFATHERING THERE ARE OTHER
ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS SUCH
AS RATE OF PAY- YOU KNOW THE
CITY OF BERKELEY ORDINANCE FOR
EXAMPLE USES. HOURLY WAGE- FOR
THAT PURPOSE- THAT PROVIDE SOME
CLARITY AND HAVING SOME
CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE BOARD.
DOCUMENTATION I MENTIONED ON THE
PRIOR BILL EVEN THE COVERT PAID
SICK LEAVE LAW ALLOW THE
EMPLOYER. TO REQUEST
DOCUMENTATION MORE THAN HALF OF
THOSE LOCAL ORDINANCES IF AN
EMPLOYEE'S TAKEN LEAVE OF THREE
OR MORE DAYS ALLOWS THE EMPLOYER
TO REQUEST THAT SORT OF
DOCUMENTATION- AND MR
DISTINGUISH CHEERS YOU REFERRED
TO EARLIER. I WOULD PLEAD WITH I
WAS GOING TO CORRECT THAT EARLY
FOR YOU. OKAY SO WE SHOULDN'T
USE IT GOING FORWARD OKAY AND-
BUT I HOPE IS GOING TO CORRECT
IT IS. FOR YOU IT'S A- FAIR
ENOUGH OF YOUR COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS- ALWAYS IN THE IN THE-
THOROUGH- MANNER IN WHICH THEY
ARE DONE HAS RAISED A NUMBER OF
QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS- BUT I
WOULD PLEAD WITH YOU THAT THIS
IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE- YOU DID
PASS THE EARLIER- BILL. THAT
DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THESE
TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE
INCLUDED IN THIS BILL WOULD LOVE
TO SEE THIS BILL GIVE SOME
ADDITIONAL TIME TO WORK THROUGH
SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE
ANALYSIS HAS IDENTIFIED. AND
HOPE THAT YOU WILL MOVE IT ALONG
TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE SO THAT
THE AUTHOR AND PROPONENTS CAN
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION ON
ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ISSUES
RAISED IN YOUR ANALYSIS THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT PRECIADO
THOUGHTFUL TESTIMONY- OTHERS
WHO. WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
EXPRESSES SUPPORT POSITION I
SHOULD SAY. GOOD EVENING KATIE
DAVIS THE CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. GOOD
EVENING KEVIN ANDERSON ON BEHALF
OF CAL TRAVEL WESTERN CAR WASH
ASSOCIATION OF FAMILY WINEMAKERS
OF CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. GOOD
EVENING A RAIN ALAIN CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU- MICROBES ON BEHALF
THE CALIFORNIA STAFFING
PROFESSIONALS AND SUPPORT. OKAY
THANK YOU ALL. OPPOSITION
WITNESSES YOU CAN COME FOR NOW.
APPLE MINUTES EACH PLEASE. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS AND
STAFF MITCH SNIDER WITH THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. FOR A FEW REASONS THAT
WILL DETAIL BUT OVERALL WE
BELIEVE THAT THE BILL REALLY
FORGETS ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT LESSONS WE'VE LEARNED
FROM THE PANDEMIC WHICH IS THAT
WORKERS NEED JOBS NOT JUST MORE
SICK LEAVE. BUT THEY NEED
GREATER ACCESS TO THE SICK LEAVE
THAT THEY HAVE WE NEED BETTER
ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAWS THAT WE
HAVE WE NEED TO MAKE
IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THOSE LINES
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T. PUT
WORKERS IN A POSITION OF HAVING
TO CHOOSE BETWEEN WORKING WHILE
SICK OR LOSING MONEY. THE FIRST
WITH THE BILL DOES THIS IS IT
TAKES THE CURRENT CALCULATION
THAT'S USED AT THE STATE LEVEL.
FOR DETERMINING WHAT SORT OF
WAGE REPLACEMENT BENEFITS A
WORKER GETS WHILE SECOND THAT'S
THE REGULAR RATE OF PAY. AND IT
SCALES THAT BACK IT TAKES THAT
AWAY AND CHANGES IT TO WHAT'S
CALLED THE BASE RATE OF PAY.
WHICH FOR A LOT OF WORKERS THAT
ARE PAID ON PIECE RATE OR THEY
GET DIFFERENT INCENTIVE PAYMENTS
WHEN THEY WORK FAST IT'S VERY
COMMON FOR FARMWORKERS.
SOMETIMES THEY MAKE QUITE A BIT
MORE MONEY THAN WHAT THEIR BASE
RATE OF PAY IS AND SO IF WE WERE
TO GO TO THAT CALCULATION WE
WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE PUTTING
WORKERS RIGHT BACK IN A POSITION
OF HAVING TO CHOOSE. DO I LOSE A
BUNCH OF MONEY OR DO I WORK
WHILE SICK WHICH IS REALLY NOT
WHAT WE THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING
RIGHT NOW- IT WAS MENTIONED
THAT. THE BILL DOES PROHIBIT.
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS IN THE
FUTURE FROM GOING BEYOND THE
STATE MINIMUM. AND CONCEPTUALLY
WE THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT. WE
REALLY IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT
WE SHOULD MOVE TOWARDS BECAUSE
OBVIOUSLY WE'VE LEARNED SINCE
THERE ARE THESE NINE
JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE THEIR
OWN STANDARDS THAT. THIS IS
SOMETHING LOCAL JURISDICTIONS
NOT ONLY BELIEVE THEY SHOULD DO
BUT THAT. THEY NEED TO DO. AND
THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY NEED TO
GO FURTHER THAN THE STATE DOES
AND WE DON'T THINK WE SHOULD
TAKE THAT RIGHT AWAY FROM THEM.
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS SHOULD HAVE
THE RIGHT TO DO MORE TO PROTECT
THE WORKERS IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
THIS BILL WOULD TAKE THAT AWAY.
AND THE FINAL WE WANTED TO TOUCH
ON WAS THAT IT CREATES A POCKET
EXEMPTION. ALSO NOT IN CURRENT
LAW BUT THIS WOULD BRING IT IN.
AND MUCH HAS BEEN SAID IN THIS
COMMITTEE AND OTHER COMMITTEES
ABOUT. THE STRUGGLES THAT
WORKERS FACE IN ENFORCING
CURRENT LAW MAKING SURE THEIR
RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED. THIS WOULD
TAKE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
ONES TOTALLY OFF THE TABLE.
PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE WORKERS
HAVE SIGNED ARBITRATION
AGREEMENTS WHICH I BELIEVE IS
MOST WORKERS NOW. THEY DON'T
REALLY HAVE ANY REAL ENFORCEMENT
OF THE LAW UNDER THE LAW
ANYMORE. EXCEPT FOR PAGO. THEY
WOULD NOW EVEN HAVE THAT TAKEN
AWAY FROM THEM UNDER THIS BILL.
AND THE NEXT WITH US WE'LL TALK
MORE ABOUT THE DOCUMENTATION
ISSUES BUT- OVERALL WE THINK
THAT. ALL OF THESE REFORMS TAKEN
TOGETHER WITH LEAVE WORKERS WITH
SOMETHING THAT'S- MUCH WEAKER
THAN CURRENT LAW AND WE WOULD
URGE REPETITION. THANK YOU. GOOD
EVENING MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
SHARON TERMINAL LEGALLY TO WORK
WE ADVANCE THE WORKPLACE RIGHTS
AND WELL BEING. OF FAMILIES WITH
LOW INCOMES AND WE HEAR FROM
COUNTLESS WORKERS. ACROSS THE
STATE WHO FACE IMPOSSIBLE
CHOICES BETWEEN KEEPING THEIR
JOBS IN INCOME. AND TAKING THE
TIME THEY NEED TO RECOVER OR
CARE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES. WE
AND OUR PARTNERS AT THE
CALIFORNIA WORKING FAMILIES
COALITION. RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE
SB EIGHT EIGHT ONE- THE
PANDEMIC- SHOWED US THAT PAID
SICK LEAVE. SAVES LIVES. BUT
EVEN BEYOND A PANDEMIC. PAID
SICK LEAVE IS VITAL FOR THE
HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT.
INCREASES CANCER SCREENINGS IT
REDUCES. THE ARE STAYS IT.
REDUCES THE SPREAD OF CONTAGIOUS
ILLNESS- NOW IS THE TIME TO
EXPAND- ACCESS TO PAID SICK DAYS
NOT TO WEEKEND EXISTING
PROTECTIONS AND WE BELIEVE THIS
BILL WOULD WEAKEN EXISTING PAID
SICK LEAVE PROTECTIONS. IT WOULD
IMPOSE NEW HURDLES ON WORKERS
SEEKING TO ACCESS PAID SICK
LEAVE. AND WOULD PREVENT
LOCALITIES FROM IMPROVING OR
ADOPTING NEW MORE GENEROUS PAID
SICK LEAVE PROVISIONS. IN
ADDITION TO THE POINTS OUTLINED
BY MY COLLEAGUE I WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT- A COUPLE OF OTHER
CONCERNS. SB EIGHT EIGHT ONE
WOULD ALLOW EMPLOYERS TO REQUIRE
WRITTEN VERIFICATION LIKE A
DOCTOR'S NOTE IF A WORKER TRIES
TO- TAKE SICK LEAVE FOR MORE
THAN THREE DAYS. BUT WE KNOW
THAT MANY WORKERS EARNING LOW
WAGES MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO
HEALTH INSURANCE AT ALL MAY FIND
IT EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT TO
GO TO THE DOCTOR TO GET SUCH A
NOTE- AND FURTHERMORE WE'VE SEEN
DURING THE PANDEMIC THAT- PUBLIC
HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE ADVISED
PEOPLE TO STAY HOME WHEN SICK-
SO AS NOT TO SPREAD. OF THE
ILLNESS TO OTHERS AND SO. ON
THIS VERIFICATION REQUIREMENTS
WOULD UNDERMINE THAT GUIDANCE BY
REQUIRING PEOPLE TO GO TO THE
DOCTOR EVEN WHEN THAT IS
ACTUALLY AGAINST ACTORS ORDERS.
AND FURTHERMORE EVEN IF A WORKER
IS ABLE TO OBTAIN A DOCTOR'S
NOTE SB EIGHT EIGHT ONE WOULD
ALLOW EMPLOYERS TO DENY PAID
SICK LEAVE BASED ON THE
EMPLOYERS OF SUBJECTIVE
DETERMINATION THAT THAT
VERIFICATION IS FALSE- IT IS
UNCLEAR HOW EMPLOYER MIGHT MAKE
SUCH A DETERMINATION. BUT THIS
PROVISION WE BELIEVE COULD LEAD
TO VERY INAPPROPRIATE-
INTRUSIONS INTO MEDICAL PRIVACY
AND WE'RE CONCERNED. COULD OPEN
THE DOOR FOR WORKERS TO BE
DISCIPLINED FOR TAKING PAID SICK
LEAVE. AND ALSO MIGHT DISCOURAGE
WORKERS FROM SEEKING PRIVATE
MEDICAL CARE FOR FEAR OF HAVING
TO DISCLOSE. THE CIRCUMSTANCES
OF THEIR MEDICAL CARE TO THEIR
EMPLOYERS. WELL S. B. EIGHT
EIGHT ONE WOULD NORMALLY
INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PAID SICK
DAYS AVAILABLE- IT WOULD IN
REALITY UNDERMINE CURRENT
PROTECTIONS IN CALIFORNIA AND
MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR
WORKERS TO ACCESS PAID SICK
LEAVE AND FOR THOSE REASONS. WE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THANK YOU.
VERY THINK WE'RE TESTIMONY-
OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM WHO
WISH TO EXPRESS IN OPPOSE
POSITION. YES MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS THE COMMISSION GUSMAN ON
BEHALF OF THE TEAMSTERS
AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION THE
MACHINISTS. UTILITY WORKERS
UNION OF AMERICA AND ENGINEERS
AND SCIENTISTS CALIFORNIA AND
THE CONSUMER ATTORNEYS OF
CALIFORNIA ALL OPPOSED. JESSE
GRANT WHILE YOU'RE C. W. WESTERN
STATES COUNCIL AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. VERY CLEAR SHE HARM
TO HAVE THE CALIFORNIA CLEMENT
LAWYERS ASSOCIATION ALSO
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. GENYA
CASSIDY CALIFORNIA WORK AND
FAMILY COALITION IN OPPOSITION.
GOOD EVENING YOU TO ONE OF THE
HER WELL A OR P. CALIFORNIA AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. GENISH
INK PEN WITH FAMILY CAREGIVER
ALLIANCE AND THE CALIFORNIA
COALITION ON FAMILY CAREGIVING
IN OPPOSITION. ACOSTA WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STATE LEGISLATIVE
BOARD OF SMART TRANSPORTATION
DIVISION AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. THAT WAS A ABOUT S.
YEAH YOU CALIFORNIA RESPECTFULLY
POST. KRISTOFF WITH THE AMERICAN
FEDERATION OF STATE COUNTY
MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. GREAT
THANK YOU- WE ARE NOW I'M GOING
TO MOVE TO THE TELECOM SIGN A
MODERATOR WOULD YOU PLEASE CHECK
TO SEE IF THERE ARE WITNESSES ON
THAT LINE WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO
THIS BILL SB EIGHTY ONE. IN
GERMANY LIKE TO COMMENT ON
SUPPORT OPPOSITION OF S. B.
EIGHTY ONE PRESS ONE OF THEIR
OTHER PARTS. A SERVICE LINE
EIGHTY ONE IF I HAD. REMEMBER
THERE AND EVERYONE BEHALF OF
NARAL PRO CHOICE CALIFORNIA ALSO
IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU. THANKS
TO THE TIMELINE NINETY SIX
PLEASE GO AHEAD. NINE NINETY SIX
AROUND OPEN. NORTHGATE NOVEMBER
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURES
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION OF
SUPPORT. AND ACTIVISTS NINETY
SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. MICHAEL
CALLED ON BEHALF OF CAL SHERMAN
SUPPORT. THE NEXT SERVICE LINE
AT ONE OF FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD.
KIRBY WITH THE IMPERIAL VALLEY
REGIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN
SUPPORT. ANEXIO TO LINE SIXTY
SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
EVENING TO BRING A LA CARTE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
TRACTION WITH PARTICIPATION IN
SUPPORT OF THE MEASURE THANK YOU
. CONNECT WITH US ONLINE ONE
THIRTY TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MISTER CHAIR HELLO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS THE CULTURE HERE RIGHT
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION
TRADES COUNCIL IN OPPOSITION.
THAT THE FOUNDERS NO NOTHING Q.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH MODERATOR- WE TO
COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE NOW
FOR- COMMENTS CONCERNS- UPGRADE
EXPRESS- MY CONCERN CONCISELY OF
TO THE AUTHOR- ON THE ONE HAND I
APPRECIATE YOU- TRYING TO SEARCH
LEADERSHIP IN THIS AREA
OBVIOUSLY- YOU KNOW THE
COMMITTEES ALREADY EXPRESS
ITSELF TO SOME DEGREE THAT YOU
KNOW THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING
TO BE TAKEN UP- MY VIEW MY
PERSPECTIVE IS THAT- THE BILL
THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE IN YOUR
OPENING COMMENTS THAT- PASS
SUBCOMMITTEE. EARLIER SB SIX
SIXTEEN IS- IT IS A BETTER
APPROACH YOU KNOW- SUBSTANTIVELY
SPEAKING. BOTH GREAT AUTHORS
BUT- YOU KNOW THAT'S WHERE I'M
AT- SO I KNEW THEY WERE RIGHT TO
THE YOU WORK CLOSELY WITH THE
COMMITTEE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT-
YOU KNOW HOW TO- WORK WITH OUR
COMMITTEE STAFF HERE I'M IN WITH
ME AS A CHAIR TO TRY TO GET- GET
TO A PLACE WITH THE ANALYSIS
WOULD BE- MORE SUPPORTABLE AND I
APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH- BUT
WITH THAT- I WILL BE STAYING.
OFF THE BILL TODAY- OTHERS
WISHING TO COMMENT ON. IF NOT WE
CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'M
GOING TO FOR EVERYBODY ELSE BUT
YOU. OKAY PERFECT ADDRESSING.
SENATOR RAZA THANK YOU- WELL I
WHEN IT. FIRST COMMENDED FOR
BRINGING BUSINESS TO THE TABLE.
I IN A WAY TO DISCUSS A VERY AND
IT KNOWLEDGE MEANT- BY
BUSINESSES SHOULDN'T BE YOU KNOW
ALWAYS. ON ON OPPOSITE SIDES.
HAVING SAID THAT I THINK SOME OF
THE SOME OF THE ISSUES CONCERNED
ME IN IN LOS ANGELES WE PASSED
A- MANY MANY YEARS AGO- ON THE
FIRST OF SICK LEAVE ACROSS THE
CITY BECAUSE OF THE- THE ISSUES
THAT. YOU KNOW I'M SURE YOU KNOW
THAT LED TO THE NEED- SO I'M I'M
GLAD YOU- ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF
WERE GRANDFATHERING IN WHERE IT
ALREADY EXISTS. HOWEVER IT STILL
DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL
PAID SICK SIXTIES SIX. PAID SICK
DAYS OF. AND THE- ABILITY OF
WORKERS ESPECIALLY LOW WAGE
WORKERS TO BE ABLE TO GET. THAT
PROOF OF FOR. VERIFICATION IS
VERY DIFFICULT. FOR WORKERS AND
NINETY I KNOW YOUR- IN AREAS OF
THE STATE WHERE FARMWORKERS
WOULD FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT.
ALL AND OTHER LOW PAID WORKERS
WOULD FIND IT DIFFICULT TO DO
THAT- AND THEN THIS BASE RATE OF
PAY ALSO CONCERNS ME SO. I I
THINK THE- WHILE WE LOOK TO MAKE
THIS A STATE WIDE I THINK THAT'S
A GREAT GOAL TO HAVE MAKE IT A
STATE WIDE HOWEVER WE SHOULDN'T
EVEN IT OUT BY. LORRAINE OTHER
WORKERS IN ORDER FOR SOME
WORKERS WHO DON'T HAVE IT TO GET
BETTER SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT I
- I DON'T SEE RIGHT NOW- HOW I
CAN SUPPORT IT BUT- I WANT TO
REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE STEPS
THAT YOU'VE TAKEN IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION PRECIADO THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OF SEEN ON ON
OVER HERE ON THE SIDE OF THIS
WILL COME BACK TO YOU BY SHARING
COME THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT DAIS
ORDER ALWAYS OVER THERE ON THE
LEFT AND RIGHT. WHAT FOR YOU. SO
IN YOUR BRIEF TIME HERE I'VE
BEEN SO IMPRESSED WITH YOU AND
YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AS IT AS IT
PERTAINS TO PUBLIC POLICY
ACTUALLY THIS PROPOSAL IS VERY
BALANCED IN MUCH BETTER THAN THE
EARLIER ONE THAT THIS COMMITTEE
UP PAST. I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE
BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL TIRED
I THINK WE ALREADY KNOW THE
OUTCOME BUT YOU DESERVE- A
MOTION IN FAVOR SO I AM I MAKING
THAT NOW. AND WHAT YOU JUST KEEP
FIGHTING FOR THE THINGS YOU
BELIEVE BECAUSE- WE ARE NOT
WE'RE ELECTED OR DISTRICTS TO
COME AND DO. WHAT YOU'RE DOING
AND I'VE JUST REALLY REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU THANK YOU SENATOR
. ALL RIGHT THE VICE SURE WILL
CAUSE OFFERED EMOTIONAL COME TO
THE COMMITTEE ASSISTANT NOW AND
ASK FOR THE MOTION TO BE STATED
IN THE ROLL CALL. FILE ITEM
NUMBER ELEVEN S. B. EIGHT EIGHTY
ONE THE MOTION IS TO PASS BUT
FIRST RE REFER TO THE COMMITTEE
ON JUDICIARY SENATOR CORTEZ YEAH
. NO I WOULD ONLY CORRECT THAT
LET ME JUST. GO DOWN AS A NON
VOTING. OKAY I CAN'T DO THAT.
ANOTHER PERMISSION TO CLOSE
HERE. IT ARE YOU MOVE ON. OKAY
WE'RE WE ALREADY SIR THE ROLL
CALL ALL RIGHT NO WORRIES MY
APOLOGIES DID NOT MEAN TO BE
DISCOURTEOUS OKAY. OKAY SENATOR
CORTEZ HE NOW SENATOR WELL AYE
WILK AYE SENATOR DORADO. DORADO
NO SENATOR LAYERED. FLARED NOT
VOTING SENATOR SMALLWOOD CUEVAS
NO SMALLWOOD CUEVAS NOW. THIS
BILL THIS BILL FAILS WITH WHEN I
VOTE IN THREE THE- THREE NO
VOTES. HERE AGAINST
RECONSIDERATION. OF WITH NO
OBJECTION A RECONSIDERATION WILL
BE GRANTED. I THINK THE AND
APOLOGIZE- FORWARD. RIGHT COULD
HELP YOUR CALLS I'LL BE BACK IN.
THIS ROOM YOU YOU ONLY ONE OR-
THANK YOU SO MUCH IT. THE YOU.
THE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW TO
WE'VE BEEN GOING TO FILE ORDER.
I THINK PRETTY MUCH ALL DAY BUT-
I HAVE TWO BILLS TO PRESENT IT
READ AT THE END OF TODAY'S
AGENDA. AND I'M GOING TO BE
PRESENTING ONE- AS A COURTESY TO
SENATOR HER TADO SO I'M GONNA
SKIP OVER THAT HER TOTAL BILL IF
YOU'RE LOOKING AT- THE FILE
ITEMS THAT WOULD BE FILE ITEM
TWELVE ALL COME BACK TO THAT.
AFTER FILE ITEM FOURTEEN WHICH
IS THE CENTER AT THE PODIUM-
SMALL CUEVAS SO THANK YOU FOR
BEING READY AND- IF YOU ALREADY
YOU MAY PROCEED. THANK YOU BOTH
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR IN GOOD
EVENING SENATORS EVENING. NIGHT
SENATORS- I WANTED TO- JUST SAY
I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT SB SEVEN
TWO FIVE. WHICH WOULD CREATE A
SAFETY NET FOR CENTRAL WORKERS
BY REQUIRING. A GROCERY
ESTABLISHMENT THE CONDUCTS A
LAYOFF AS A RESULT OF A MERGER
OR ACQUISITION. TO PROVIDE
WORKERS AT LEAST ONE WEEK OF
SEVERANCE FOR EVERY YEAR OF
SERVICE. THIS IS A COMMONSENSE
SAFETY NET. OF PIECE OF POLICY
THAT IS REALLY ABOUT HELPING.
OUR WORKERS WHETHER. THESE
ECONOMIC STORMS. FROM
1-993-220-0019 THE NUMBER OF
GROCERY STORES NATIONWIDE
DECLINED ROUGHLY BY 30% ONE
REASON FOR THE SIGNIFICANT
DECLINE IS THE INCREASE WE'VE
SEEN IN FOOD INDUSTRY MERGERS
AND ACQUISITIONS WHICH EXCEEDED
OVER THREE HUNDRED. IN TWO
THOUSAND AND NINETEEN ALONE AND
NOT ONLY IS THAT IMPACTING
WORKERS BUT ACCESS TO FOOD
CREATING FOOD DESERTS IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. PLEASE GROCERY
STORE MERGERS AND ACQUISITIONS
CAN HAVE DEVASTATING IMPACTS ON
WORKERS IN ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES WHILE EMPLOYEES HAVE
SOME PROTECTIONS UNDER THE WARN
ACT. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE
EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE ANY
MATERIAL SUPPORT TO WORKERS
TRYING. TO TRANSITION. IN TWO
THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN WHEN
ALBERTSONS AND HAGEN MERGED MANY
WORKERS WERE FACED WITH EXTREME
FINANCIAL IN SECURITY AS THEY
SCRAMBLED FOR NEW EMPLOYMENT.
WITH ME TODAY- I'M GOING TO
SHARE A STORY FIRST BEFORE I
ANNOUNCE THE SPEAKERS WHO ARE
HERE- AND THIS IS FROM- A WORKER
CHRISTINE THERE- RUBIN NAY WHO
WAS A UFCW WORKER. WHO IS DEEPLY
IMPACTED BY THE HAGEN- MERGER-
AND WIN HAGEN WITH BANKRUPT AND
SHUT DOWN THE STORE THAT SHE
WORKED IN SHE APPLIED FOR WORK
AND NUMEROUS DIFFERENT STORES UP
AND IT TOOK MONTHS. AND AFTER
BEING UNABLE TO FIND A SIMILAR
OR COMPATIBLE JOB. SHE ENDED UP
HAVING TO TAKE TWO THREE JOBS AS
A SEAMSTRESS CLEANING HOUSES
DOING OTHER ODD CHORES TO MAKE
ENDS MEET. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN YOU LOSE A GOOD JOB. IN IN
OUR ECONOMY WE HAVE FAR MORE LOW
WAGE JOBS AND SO WORKERS HAVE TO
PIECE TOGETHER JOBS EQUAL WHAT
THEY WERE EARNING- WHEN THEY HAD
A GOOD YOU KNOW UNION- PROTECTED
JOB- NOW- A NEW GROCERY STORE
ESTABLISHMENT MERGER IS ON THE
HORIZON- BETWEEN KROGER AND
ALBERTSONS. A AND- NGUYEN JUST
THIS PAST YEAR A TWO THOUSAND
TWENTY TWO REPORT CONDUCTED BY
THE ECONOMIC ROUND TABLE SORT OF
LOOKED AT WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL
IMPACTS OF THIS MERGER- ON
WORKERS ON OUR COMMUNITIES. IN
THE REPORT FOUND THAT KROGER
EMPLOYEES REPORTED THAT 78% OF
THEM ARE ALREADY FOOD INSECURE
SIXTY SEVEN PERCENT- CANNOT PAY
FOR THE BASIC EXPENSES FOR EVERY
MONTH FORTY FOUR PERCENT. OF
WERE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR
RENT- ABOUT THIRTY PERCENT- WHO
WERE WORKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW
THIS IS IN THE STORE IT'S IN THE
DISTRIBUTION CENTERS RIGHT- AND
THOSE JOBS WERE NEAR- THE
POVERTY LEVEL AND SOME- BELOW.
AND FOURTEEN PERCENT- UP WERE
HOMELESS- AND HAD BEEN FOR THE
PAST YEAR SO WE KNOW THAT THIS
MERGER IS ONLY GOING TO
EXACERBATE THOSE THOSE
CONDITIONS AND WE HAVE TO ENSURE
THAT THESE ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND
WE KNOW WOULDN'T DURING COBIT WE
COUNTED OFF THE GROCERY STORE
WORKERS TO BE THERE THEY WERE
SOME OF THE ONLY WORKERS. WHO
WERE THERE FOR US. THESE
ESSENTIAL WORKERS- ARE ALREADY
AMONG SOME OF THE MOST
VULNERABLE IN OUR IN OUR STATE I
AND- IT YET AGAIN THEY'RE GOING
TO BE FACED- WITH ANOTHER-
EXTREME SITUATION OF TRYING TO
FIND FOOD HOUSING AND TO MAKE
THEIR ENDS MEET. SB SIX TWENTY
SEVEN WILL PROTECT THESE WORKERS
BY PROVIDING THEM WITH THE
FINANCIAL SUPPORT THEY NEED TO
TRANSITION AFTER A MASS LAYOFF.
WITH ME TODAY TO TESTIFY IS
CHRISTOPHER CHAVEZ WITH THE
WESTERN CENTER ON LAW AND
POVERTY IN ADDITIONALLY I'M
SPEAKING AT TODAY. WITH ME ON
THIS ISSUE IS MICHAEL BY HE'S A
PRODUCE MANAGER WITH BONDS IN A
UFCW LOCAL SEVEN SEVENTY MEMBER.
AND LASTLY I WANTED TO ASK THE
JAZZY OF GRUNWALD TO JOIN ME
FROM- THE U. F. C. W. HERE WHO
MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF
YOUR TECHNICAL QUESTIONS- SO
WITNESSES COME FORWARD AT THIS
TIME. AS YOU PROBABLY HEARD WE
HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES EACH OTHER
FOR THE TESTIMONY AND YOU'RE
WELCOME TO START. THIS TIME.
GOOD EVENING GOOD EVENING MISTER
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY
NAME IS MICHAEL BY I'M A PRODUCE
MANAGER AT VONS GROCERY STORE IN
SANTA BARBARA. AND A PROUD SHOP
STEWARD AND MEMBER OF THE U. OF
C. W.'S LOCAL SEVEN SEVENTY.
I'VE WORKED IN A GROCERY ENERGY
INDUSTRY FOR THIRTY FOUR YEARS
ALL OF MY ADULT LIFE SINCE I
STARTED WORKING AT LUCKY'S WHEN
I WAS SIXTEEN YEARS OLD. I WAS
IN FACT ALREADY WORKING AT
LUCKY'S IN NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT
WHEN LUCKY'S AND ITS PARENT
COMPANY AMERICAN STORES WERE
ACQUIRED BY ALBERTSONS. I CAN
TELL YOU FIRST HAND WHAT IT WAS
LIKE FOUR OF THEM WORKING
FAMILIES TO BE LEFT WITHOUT A
SAFETY NET. STRIVE DURING RAINY
DAYS JUST TRY DURING RAINY DAYS
BURNING. OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES
ASSIGNED TO MERGE WITH LARGE
GROCERY CHAINS I WENT THROUGH
THE ALBERTSONS AND SAFEWAY
MERGER BACK IN TWO THOUSAND
FIFTEEN AS PART OF THE MERGER
DEAL. MY STORE WAS BOUGHT BY
HAGEN AND THE MAJORITY OF MY
WORKERS WERE LAID OFF. THIS WAS
DEVASTATING FOR US WORKERS MY
COWORKERS HAD BILLS TO PAY AND
FAMILIES TO PROVIDE FOR. AT
LEAST HALF OF MY CO WORKERS
STRUGGLE TO PAY THE RENT MAKE
CAR PAYMENTS PUT FOOD ON THEIR
TABLES FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR
FAMILIES. BEFORE HAGEN
OFFICIALLY SHUTTERED STORES. AS
GROCERY WORKERS WERE BEING
PHASED OUT IN MY COMMUNITY OF
GALENA IN SANTA BARBARA. THERE
WERE FIVE HAGEN STORES THAT WERE
SHUT DOWN EACH STORE HAVE
BETWEEN SEVENTY FIVE AND A
HUNDRED FIFTY WORKERS. THAT HAD
TO FIND NEW EMPLOYMENT. WORKERS
WITH THE HIGHEST IN THE ALREADY
WERE ABLE TO FIND JOBS AT
DIFFERENT BANNERS BUT TAKE A
DEMOTION. TO LOWER
CLASSIFICATIONS. TAKE PAY CUTS
OF ABOUT SIXTY EIGHT DOLLARS PER
HOUR. MOVED TO LESS FORTUNATE
SHIFTS LIKE NIGHT SHIFTS. OR HAD
THEIR HOURS SIGNIFICANTLY
REDUCED. WORKERS WITH LESS
SENIORITY HOW TO PIECE TOGETHER.
MULTIPLE JOBS TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
MOVED TO NONUNION STORES WITH
LOWER PAY OR NOR BENEFITS. LIKE
HEALTH CARE PENSION. WE WERE NOT
ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR OUR FAMILIES
AFTER THE MERGER LIKE WE WERE
BEFORE YOU HAVE TO COME TO
CONCLUSION IT'S A TWO MINUTE
OKAY I'M SORRY- IF THE BILL.
SEVEN TWO FIVE IS BEEN LAW AT
THE TIME IT WOULD HELP THEIR
FAMILIES BIG TIME. THANK YOU FOR
APPRECIATIVE MONEY THANK YOU FOR
KEEPING TO THE TIME. NEXT
WITNESS PLEASE GOOD EVENING TO
TRY MEMBERS CHRIS RESPONSES
POLICY ADVOCATE THE WESTERN
CENTER ALONG PARTY. HERE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF S. B. SEVEN
SEVEN TWO FIVE WHICH WOULD
PROVIDE A SAFETY NET FOR WORKERS
WHO HAVE BEEN BEEN MADE AFTER
THE MERGER. UNFORTUNATE REALITY
IS THAT TODAY MANY WORKERS ARE
LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND
BY THE MAKING THAT ARE- AND WILL
HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OF
THEIR TO BE LAID OFF. AND WHICH
WOULD ABSOLUTELY PUSH MANY OF
THEM IN A POVERTY DEEP POVERTY
IF THEY ARE NOT FACING THAT.
MANY OF YOU MAY THINK THAT
NATURALLY FOLKS WILL FIND
THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION LIKE
THIS TO TURNED UP TO THE STATE
SAFETY NET PROGRAMS. AND WHILE
TECHNICALLY THAT'S TRUE I HAVE
TO SAY THAT OUR STATE SAID YOU
KNOW PROGRAMS CAN BE VERY
DIFFICULT FOR FOLKS TO NAVIGATE
WHICH MAKES IT EASY FOR
CALIFORNIANS TO FALL THROUGH THE
CRACKS. ESPECIALLY FOR
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE NEVER
UTILIZED- THESE PROGRAMS BEFORE.
OUR AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
THAT WE CAPTURE ALL THESE
INDIVIDUALS ESPECIALLY IN THESE
TIMES OF NEED. IT IS CRITICAL
THAT WORKERS FACING THIS
TRANSITION ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE
THE SUPPORT. THAT PROVIDES THEM
OPTIONS DURING THIS TIME OF
TRANSITION. ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE
OF BECOME INDUSTRY EXPERTS. MAY
FACE EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND
EMPLOYMENT IN THEIR FIELD.
LASTLY I DO ONE OF LEFT IMPACTS.
THAT THESE FORMS OF MERGERS HAVE
ON LOCAL COMMUNITIES BECAUSE
WHEN. JOBS ARE LOST TO
COMMUNITIES THEY CAN FEEL THE
IMPACT AND ESPECIALLY ITS NERVE
GROCERY STORES. WHEN MERGERS
HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ON OUR-
ON THE ACCESS TO HEALTHY FOODS
AND NUTRITIONAL FOODS. IS FOR
THESE REASONS WESTERN CENTER
DOES ARRIVE A- VERY GREAT THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY OF OTHERS
WHO WISH TO EXPRESS A SUPPORT.
POSITION PLEASE COME FORWARD AT
THIS TIME. MISTER CHAIR MEMBER
SHANE GUSMAN ON BEHALF OF THE
TEAMSTERS AND SPORT. MISTER
CHAIR MEMBER SERIF LOCKS
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION IN
SUPPORT. MISTER JR MEMBERS LOOK
ALSO WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
LEGISLATURE BOARD OF SMART
TRANSPORTATION DIVISION IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO
OPPOSITION KNOWS OUR LEAD
OPPOSITION WITNESS. MISTER BROWN
WELCOME. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN BURST COMMITTEE. LOUIS
BROWN HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF
CALIFORNIA GROCERS ASSOCIATION
APOLOGIZE THE COMMITTEE FOR THE
LAKES MIDDLE OF OUR LETTER. WE
HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH
SENATOR AND HER STAFF AND
APPRECIATE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
ABOUT WE ARE IN OPPOSITION
TONIGHT- THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE
CONVERSATION SO FAR HAS BEEN ON
THE PROPOSED MERGER- THAT'S- AT
THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION
BEING CONSIDERED RIGHT NOW- IF
THAT MERGER GOES THROUGH. THAT'S
GOING TO IMPACT. ABOUT 10% OF
THE STORES IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. OVER EIGHT THOUSAND
GROCERY STORES IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. THIS BILL IMPACTS
ALL OF THEM. AND WE HAVE A VERY
HEALTHY INDEPENDENT GROCERY-
OWNERSHIP MARKET IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. AND WHAT THIS BILL
NOW SAYS THAT ANY OF THOSE
INDEPENDENT THEY WANT TO MOVE
FORWARD AND A CHOIR OR OR- ENTER
INTO A TRANSACTION. NOW HAVE TO
COMPLY WITH THIS NEW ELEMENT
THERE ARE TO COMPLY WITH THE
EXISTING GROCERY WORKER
RETENTION LAW WHICH SAYS THAT IF
I GO IN A CHOIR A GROCERY STORE.
THEN I'D GET THE LIST OF
EMPLOYEES THAT ARE AT THE
GROCERY STORE AND AS I MAKE THE
HIRING DECISIONS FOR MY BUSINESS
I HIGHER FROM THAT LIST. IF I'M
BUYING THE STORE. AND I DON'T
NEED ALL THE EMPLOYEES OR I
DON'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR
THE SAME NUMBER OF POLICE AS THE
SUCCESSOR GROCERY STORE. I'M NOT
PENALIZED FOR THAT AS LONG AS I
HIGHER FROM THAT LIST. NOW THIS
BILL WOULD PENALIZE ME FOR THE
ABILITY NOT. TO HIRE ALL THE
SAME NUMBER EMPLOYEES SO WHAT
WE'RE REALLY GOING TO DO IS IN
THE SITUATION WHERE WE ACTUALLY
HAVE FOOD DESERT WHERE WE HAVE
PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO IN AND
BUY A STORE WERE LIMITING THE
NUMBER OF BUYERS FOR THOSE
STORES. BECAUSE IF I'M AN ETHNIC
MARKET. AND I WANT TO HIRE
PEOPLE THAT SPEAK THE LANGUAGE
OF MY CLIENTS MY CUSTOMERS. IF
THEY'RE NOT ON THAT LIST AND I
DON'T NEED THAT ENTIRE LIST NOW
I'M PENALIZED FOR NOT HIRING
FROM THAT ENTIRE LIST. SO THE
BILL SAYS IF I DON'T NEED ALL OF
THESE EMPLOYEES THEN DON'T COME
BY THE STORE. BECAUSE IF I CAN'T
HIRE ALL THOSE EMPLOYEES I HAVE
TO PAY SEVERANCE. THIS BILL
WORKS IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION
MISTER CHAIR HOW WE BELIEVE THE
EXISTING LAW- HEY SHOWED THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH FOR THIS
INDUSTRY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH THE AUTHOR. BUT TONIGHT
HAVE TO ASK FOR A NO VOTE.
LAURIE THANK YOU FOR TESTIMONY
WHO WAS THERE ANOTHER OPPOSITION
WITNESS- OF. ANYBODY IN THE ROOM
WHO WANTS TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION
. SEE THIS IS A OPPOSITION. S. I
RANDOMLY OF THE CALIFORNIA
TEACHERS ASSOCIATION- WE DON'T
HAVE AN OFFICIAL POSITION JUST
YET- MARC MEMBERS TO LOOK INTO
THIS BUT ONCE WE DO WILL WORK
DIRECTLY WITH YOU I JUST WANTED
TO COME HERE AND- SAY THAT.
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT TO THE END-
THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE ROOM
COMING FORWARD TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION- SWORD GO THE
MODERATOR AND ASK. OF FOR
TELECONFERENCE CALLERS TO BE
RECOGNIZED AT THIS TIME
OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT. OF COURSE
LATELY JIM IF YOU WISH YOU CAN
BOARD OR OPPOSITION THE PRESS
ONE ZERO. THIS IS SB SEVEN
TWENTY FIVE. WE DO HAVE ONE THAT
HAS STOOD UP ONE MOMENT WATER
LINE NUMBERS GIVEN.
NO GOING TO LINE ONE FORTY SIX
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU THIS
IS ANDREW CASHNER AND THEREFORE
AT THE CENTER FOR RESPONSIBLE
LENDING IN SUPPORT OF. IMAGE
CURRENTLY NO ONE ELSE IN THE
QUEUE ALL RIGHT THANK YOU
MODERATOR- SO WE WILL COME BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE NOW ON SB SEVEN
TWENTY FIVE- COMMENTS QUESTIONS
CONCERNS- SEEN NONE- WE WILL
GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE
SENATOR THANK YOU SO MUCH MISTER
CHAIR THAT. I REPRESENT A AN
AREA CALLED CRENSHAW DISTRICT
AND ON CRENSHAW THE LAST
REMAINING GROCERY STORE IN MY
DISTRICT ARE CHRIS ARE WHICH IS
B. B. BOULEVARD THAT RUNS
THROUGH. A SOUTH CENTRAL IS ONE
ALBERTSONS. ONE ALBERTSONS IN
THESE THIS IS A GENERATIONAL
STORE THERE ARE FATHERS WHOSE
GRAND KIDS ARE WORKING AT THAT
STORE WE KNOW THOSE FAMILIES.
AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS
AND SHOULD THAT STORE CLOSE I
WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE IN MY
CONSTITUENTS WOULD WANT TO MAKE
SURE. THAT THOSE FAMILIES WERE
TAKING CARE OF AND WHAT WE'RE
SAYING IS SEVERANCE TO HELP
WORKERS WHETHER. TO HELP THEM
WHETHER THE ECONOMIC STORM- IF
WE DON'T PROVIDE AND WE HEARD
THE ASTRONOMICAL NUMBERS OF
PRUDENT EIGHT THOUSAND STORES
THE POTENTIAL NUMBERS OF
WORKERS. WHO WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
PAY THEIR RENT WHO WILL NOT BE
ABLE TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGE WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO PAY THE CAR NO
WHO WILL NOT BE ABLE. TO KEEP
THEIR KIDS IN COLLEGE WHO WILL
NOT. BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR CAR
NOTE TO PUT GAS FOOD ON THE
TABLE THEN THAT BECOMES. OUR.
CHALLENGE IN YET ANOTHER CRISIS
THAT WE HAVE GOT TO TRY TO FIX I
THINK THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT.
WORKERS WHO ARE IN THESE
ECONOMIC HEADWINDS AND MAKE SURE
THAT THEY CAN WEATHER THE STORM
AND WITH THAT I ASK FOR YOUR AYE
THOSE RESPECTFULLY. OKAY DO WE
HAVE A PROMOTION ON SEVEN TWENTY
FIVE. THE SERVER MOVE BY SENATOR
ALSO- BY. THE PLEASE GO AHEAD
STATE THE- THE MOTION AND TAKE
THE ROLE THANK YOU. FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOURTEEN SB SEVEN TWENTY
FIVE THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED
SENATOR CORTEZ I PROTECT THE ICE
SENATOR WELL HI WELL I SENATOR
DORADO. DORADO AYE SENATOR
LAYERED. LAYERED I CENTER
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS FIVE SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS HI THIS BILL IS OUT FIVE
TWO ZERO THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.
FOOD TO THEM GRADUATIONS AND
THANK YOU. I WILL BE A TURNING
THE GAVEL BACK OVER TO THE VICE
CHAIR WHO HAS BEEN- PRESIDING
OFTEN ON ALL DAY- SO THAT I CAN
PRESENT. THE THREE BILLS AND-
YOUR FOR ALLOWED BY THE BY
SHEER- I WILL START WITH SB SIX
NINETY SEVEN WHICH IS ACTUALLY A
BILL AUTHORED BY CENTER HER TADO
.
ALL RIGHT UP NEXT IS- WITHIN
THEIR TAUGHT A BILL SO THAT BE
ITEM NUMBER TWELVE S. B. SIX
NINETY SEVEN PRESENTING FOR
CENTER HER TADO. IS OUR
ILLUSTRIOUS CHAIR AND YOU MAY
PROCEED WHEN READY. ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU IN THIS- YOU WERE THE
CHAIR FOR THE REMAINDER OF-
THESE BILL PRESENTATIONS- WILL
REFER TO YOU AS SHARE THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT-
AND- THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES-
I'M PRESENTING HAS NOTED SB SIX
NINETY SEVEN ON BEHALF OF
SENATOR HER TADO- THIS BILL
SEEKS TO CONDUCT A STUDY ON
HEALTH CARE REIMBURSEMENTS IN
WORKERS COMPENSATION CLAIMS. IT
WOULD REQUIRE THE DEPARTMENT US
RELATIONS HOLD FIVE STAKEHOLDER
WORKSHOPS TO DISCUSS ITS
FINDINGS A STUDY ON HEALTHCARE
REIMBURSEMENT CAN HELP TO
IDENTIFY WITH THE WORKERS ARE
RECEIVING APPROPRIATE
COMPENSATION FOR THE HEALTHCARE
COSTS. HEALTHCARE COSTS ARE
SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE FOR BOTH
EMPLOYERS INSURANCE INSURERS IN
WORKERS COMPENSATION CLAIMS OF A
STUDY ON HEALTH CARE
REIMBURSEMENTS CAN HELP IDENTIFY
ERRORS WERE COST COULD BE
CONTAINED AND EFFICIENCIES CAN
BE INTRODUCED. BY STUDY
HEALTHCARE REIMBURSED
RESEARCHERS CAN IDENTIFY WHETHER
WORKERS ARE RECEIVING HIGH
QUALITY CARE THAT MEETS OUR
NEEDS AND HELPS AND RECOVER AS
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOLLOWING
COMPLETION OF THIS STUDY THE
DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL
RELATIONS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO
HOLD AT LEAST FIVE STAKEHOLDER
WORKSHOPS TO SHARE THEIR
FINDINGS. OVERALL VALUE BASE
KERR CALIFORNIA WORKERS
COMPENSATION COULD HELP IMPROVE
THE QUALITY OF CARE FOR INJURED
WORKERS. REDUCE COSTS FOR
EMPLOYERS INSURERS INCREASE
TRANSPARENCY REDUCE LITIGATION
AND PROVIDE GREATER FLEXIBILITY
TO ADDRESS. THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF
CALIFORNIA'S WORKERS WORKERS
COMPENSATION SET OF SYSTEM. OF
WITH THAT THERE WERE NO
WITNESSES- THAT WE ARE GOING TO
CALL TO TESTIFY. IN I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. WELL WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD
AND GO THROUGH THE DRILL ANYWAY
JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. ANY
WITNESSES ARE PRIMARY WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT. C. NINE ANY PRIVATE
. ANY SUPPORT WOULD ASSIST. I
WANT TO DO TO. SIGNAL ANY-
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
SEEING NONE HE WHEN THE ROOM WAS
TO COME UP. IN A POST. THAT'S TO
THE TELECONFERENCE. MODERATOR
YOU THERE. YES PLEASE AND I ONCE
AGAIN IF YOU WISH TO MAKE A
COMMENT. OR OPPOSITION PRESS ONE
ZERO SO ONCE AGAIN THIS IS ITEM
TWELVE S. B. SIX NINETY SEVEN.
AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR ME TO
TESTIMONY SO NAME ORGANIZATION
IN YOUR POSITION. AND IS
CURRENTLY KNOWN KEEPING UP THAT
TIME. SHOCKING ALL RIGHT WE'RE
PULL BACK TO COMMITTEE ANY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS CONCERNS IN
IN AGAIN HE'S DOING CENTER TITLE
FAVOR SO NO REALLY REALLY HARD
QUESTIONS. ALL WELL I DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE BILL DOES SO THAT'S WHY
I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE UP THERE
ANSWERING QUESTIONS I WAS GOING
TO MOVE THE BILL BUT NOW I FEEL
LIKE I SHOULD ASK A DIFFICULT
QUESTION NO LET'S GET OUT HERE
NO I MOVE THE BILL THE BILL.
OKAY HE'S SEEING NO QUESTIONS
AND WE HAVE A MOTION FROM.
SENATOR LAYERED AND I'LL LET YOU
REPEAT IT- I YEAH I. ALREADY
CLOSE THANK YOU CLOSING YET. I
RESPECTFULLY S. ROAD. WITH A
BIGGER PIZZA MOTION AND WILL
VOTE. FILE ITEM NUMBER TWELVE SB
SIX NINETY SEVEN THE MOTION IS
DUE PASSED BUT FIRST RE REFER TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR CORTEZ THE- I PRETEND
THE AYE SENATOR WILL NOT VOTING
WELL COULD NOT VOTING SENATOR
DORADO. DORADO AYE SENATOR
LAYERED FLARED EYES SENATORS HOW
WITH WAY LESS SMALLWOOD CUEVAS
I'D THIS BILL IS OUT FOR TWO
ZERO. HE DID A FINE JOB. OKAY
NOW WE'RE GOING TO BYLINE
FIFTEEN S. B. SIX THREE SIX
CENTER CORTESE HAVING TO DO WITH
THE WORKERS COMPENSATION THE
FLOOR IS YOURS ALL RIGHT AGAIN
AGAIN THANK YOU CHAIR AND-
COLLEAGUES- I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITIES IN SB SIX THIRTY
SIX TWO TODAY SB SIX THIRTY SIX
WOULD REQUIRE UTILIZATION
REVIEW. TO BE DONE BY DOCTORS
LICENSED IN CALIFORNIA THIS
WOULD ONLY APPLY TO PRIVATE
WORKERS COMPOSITION CASES.
UTILIZATION REVIEW IS WHEN A
WORKERS COMP INSURANCE COMPANY
REVIEWS A TREATING PHYSICIANS
TREATMENT RECOMMENDATIONS. THE
APPROVE OR MODIFY OR DENY
TREATMENT BASED ON WHAT THEY
CONSIDER MEDICALLY NECESSARY.
UNDER CURRENT LAW DOCTORS DOING
UTILIZATION REVIEW FOR WORKERS
COMP CASES DO NOT HAVE TO BE
LICENSED IN CALIFORNIA. IF A
REVIEWER NOT LICENSING
CALIFORNIA MAKES A DECISION THAT
RESULTS IN HARM TO A PATIENT OF
DOCTORS NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO THE
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL BOARD. THIS
LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
MALPRACTICE IS A DANGER TO
PATIENTS. THIS IDEA IS NOT NEW-
THE LEGISLATORS CONSIDER THIS
ISSUE THREE TIMES BEFORE. IN TWO
THOUSAND EIGHT TWENTY TEN TWENTY
ELEVEN EACH OF THESE BILLS WOULD
HAVE REQUIRED UTILIZATION REVIEW
FOR ALL WORKERS COMP CASES TO BE
DONE BY PHYSICIANS LICENSED. IN
CALIFORNIA ALL THREE WERE PASSED
BY THE LEGISLATURE BUT VETOED.
BY THE GOVERNOR SAYS SORTS ****
AND GOVERNOR BROWN WELL THESE
PAST BILLS APPLY TO ALL WORKERS.
SB SIX THIRTY SIX APPLIES ONLY
TO PRIVATE WORKERS BY STARTING
WITH A SMALL GROUP. WE CAN
DEMONSTRATE THE BENEFITS OF THIS
IMPROVE ACCOUNTABILITY WE CAN
ALSO OPEN THE DOOR FOR THIS TO
BE EXPANDED TO OTHER WORKERS
LATER ON. THIS BILL IS CO
SPONSORED BY THE UNION OF
AMERICAN PHYSICIANS PHYSICIANS
AND DENTISTS. THE CALIFORNIA
NEUROLOGICAL SOCIETY AND ASKED
ME. BUT WITH US TESTIFIED TODAY.
WE HAVE STEVE A CATHOLICA. WITH
THE CALIFORNIA NEUROLOGY SOCIETY
AND DR. STUART BUSSY PRESIDENT
OF THE UNION. OF AMERICAN
PHYSICIANS AND DENNIS. IN THE-
WELCOME IN. EACH EACH OTHER GETS
TWO MINUTES OKAY. OKAY GOOD
EVENING MR CHAIRMAN AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS FIRST I WANT
TO THANK SENATOR CORTESE FOR
BRINGING. THIS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION FORWARD MY NAME IS
DR STUART BY SEA. I'M BOARD
CERTIFIED FAMILY DOCTOR AND
ATTORNEY AND A LAWYER AND
PRESIDENT OF THE UNION. WE'RE
JOINED BY ASKING INTERNATIONAL
AND THE CALIFORNIA NEUROLOGICAL
SOCIETY IS CO SPONSORED.
COSPONSORED THE SIX THIRTY SIX.
BECAUSE OF MY PREVIOUS
EXPERIENCE DOING SOME WORKERS
COMP EVALUATIONS AND MANY
NINETEEN YEARS WORTH. OF SOCIAL
SECURITY DISABILITY I FEEL THAT
I HAVE STANDING TO ENDORSE THIS
BILL I'VE COME TO REALIZE IN
THESE DAYS OF TELEMEDICINE AND
ENSURE OVERSIGHT. WERE MORE MORE
DOCTORS DO NOT DIRECTLY INTERACT
WITH PATIENTS. THAT THE DOCTOR
PATIENT RELATIONSHIP. AND THE
CONCOMITANT DUTY OF CARE SHOULD
BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE
UTILIZATION REVIEW DOCTORS WHO
OF MODIFIER DENY TREATMENT
AUTHORIZATIONS. THE CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION THE AMA IN
THE MEDICAL BOARD AGREE WITH
THIS CONCEPT. AND I FEEL THAT
SIX THIRTY SIX ADDRESSES THIS
ISSUE- CURRENTLY THE WORKERS
COMP PATIENTS IN CALIFORNIA
WHERE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS
MODIFIED OR DENIED. TO THEIR
DETRIMENT HAVE NO RECOURSE TO
BEING MADE WHOLE. CONVERSELY OUR
STATE DOCTORS WHO DON'T HAVE
LICENSES HAVE NO ACCOUNTABILITY
FOR THE POOR DECISIONS THEY MAKE
IT REGARDLESS OF THE SO CALLED
TREATMENT SCHEDULE THEY MAY
FOLLOW. I FEEL LIKE IMPACTFUL
MEDICAL TREATMENT DECISIONS ARE
STILL THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE
BERNARD FOREMAN NOT A BLIND
ALLEGIANCE TO PROTOCOLS.
EXAMPLES OF POOR OUTCOME
TREATMENTS FROM WORKERS COP
DENIALS WERE DRESSED IN THE TWO
THOUSAND EIGHTEEN SUPREME COURT
KIRK CAME DECISION. AND MY
COLLEAGUES WILL BE TALKING ABOUT
THAT BY REQUIRING ALL WORKERS
COMP REVIEWERS TO HOLD A MEDICAL
LICENSE IN CALIFORNIA THEY WILL
BE ACCOUNTABLE TO CALIFORNIA
PATIENTS. AND THE MEDICAL BOARD
FOR THESE DECISIONS AND AS A
MISTER CORTESE SAID- BY
RESTRICTING THIS ONLY TO PRIVATE
EMPLOYERS AND- WE CAN EVALUATE
THE IMPACT BEFORE EXPANDING SO
I. RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE I VOTE ON SIX THIRTY SIX
AND- STEVE KATORGA OF CNS WE'LL
TALK ABOUT THE KING DECISION.
THANK YOU ARE. SERVER COMMITTEE
THANK YOU FOR OFFERING THE BILL
THANK YOU FOLKS FOR ALLOWING US
TO SPEAK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT IT. MY NAME THIS IS STEVE
CATHOLICON I REPRESENT THE
CALIFORNIA- ORANGEY SOCIETY. SB
SIX THIRTY SIX THIRTY SIX FOR
FILLS THE FOR A REQUEST MADE
SPECIFICALLY BY THE CALIFORNIA
SUPREME COURT OPINION IN KING
VERSUS COM PARTNERS. MR KING WAS
DIRECTLY HARMED BY YOU OUR
PHYSICIANS DENIAL OF A VITAL
DRUGS. THAT HAVE BEEN TAKE HE
HAD BEEN TAKING FOR SOME TIME AS
PART OF AN APPROVED CARE PLAN.
AS A RESULT OF AN IN ADMITTED
WORKERS COMPENSATION CLAIM. THE
COLD TURKEY WITHDRAWAL OF THE
DRUG KLONOPIN REQUIRED MR CAME
TO BE HOSPITALIZED THREE TIMES.
HIS TREATING PHYSICIAN DID NOT
AGREE WITH YOU OUR PHYSICIAN'S
DECISION BUT WAS POWERLESS TO
COMPEL THE DECISION TO BE
OVERTURNED. CITING THE PLENARY
NATURE OF THE LEGISLATURE'S
POWER THE COURT FOUND IN FAVOUR
OF COMPARTMENTS THE YOUR
PHYSICIAN'S EMPLOYER. THE COURT
SEEMED PAINED. TO DO SO AS
WITNESSED BY TWO CONCURRING
OPINIONS THAT YOU WERE INCLUDED
WITH THE MAJORITY OPINION.
ASKING THE LEGISLATURE TO REVIEW
ITS WORK COMP YOUR PROCESS.
BECAUSE THE KING CASE
DEMONSTRATED. THAT QUOTE THE
SYSTEM MAY NOT BE WORKING AS
INTENDED. CONVERSE'S COM
PARTNERS UNDERSCORES THE LACK OF
PROTECTION INJURED WORKERS HAVE
WHEN YOU ARE A PHYSICIAN MAKES A
POOR DECISION. CONSIDERING THE
IMMENSE VOLUME OF REQUESTS FOR
REVERSAL OF I AM NOT PART OF
YOUR DECISIONS. THERE WERE A
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY EIGHT
THOUSAND OF THEM IN TWO HUNDRED
AND TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE. WE
BELIEVE A MORE DIRECT
ACCOUNTABILITY. IS THE PLACE TO
START TO BUILD THAT PROTECTION.
DENIALS IN MANDATORY
MODIFICATIONS OF REQUEST FOR
AUTHORIZATION OCCUR ON A REGULAR
BASIS. AND DESPITE THE LABOR
CODE THESE DENIALS AND
MODIFICATIONS ARE EVEN SOMETIMES
DECIDED BY INDIVIDUALS FOR NOT
PHYSICIANS AT ALL. AS A RESULT
INITIATED BY C. N. S. THE
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
ADOPTED A RESOLUTION STATING
THAT THE YOU WILL AND THAT YOU
ARE IS THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE.
AND THAT YOU ARE PHYSICIANS HAVE
A DUTY OF CARE TO THE INJURED
WORKER WHOSE TREATMENT THERE
OVERSEEING. I WANT TO CLOSE BY
SAYING IT'S IRRELEVANT WITH.
THAT THE KING CASE IF IT WERE TO
OCCUR ONCE IN A LIFETIME. ONCE A
WEEK OR EVEN ONCE A DAY.
CALIFORNIA LICENSURE IS AN
UNUSED BUT EFFECTIVE SAFETY NET
MEANT TO PROTECT US ALL. AND I
THINK I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
AYE VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SIR DO WE HAVE ANY ME TOO SINCE
SUPPORT. NAME ORGANIZATION
POSITION. MISSISSAUGA CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. CHRISTOPHORUS ASKED
ME CALIFORNIA WE ARE A CO
SPONSOR OF THE BILL AND- TRY
ABOUT THANK YOU THANK YOU. ADULT
CHIPATA ON THE IMMEDIATE PAST
CHAIR OF THE ASKED ME PEOPLE
COMMITTEE MOST EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF UNION OF AMERICAN
PHYSICIANS. AND DENTISTS IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK
YOU. STEVE COULD TALK I HAVE THE
PRIVILEGE OF ALSO REPRESENTING
THE CALIFORNIA PHYSICAL MEDICINE
AND REHABILITATION PHYSICIAN
ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS THE
INDEPENDENT PHYSICAL THERAPISTS
OF CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. GREAT
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
. AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A
LITTLE LEEWAY BECAUSE THEY THEY
THEY WENT OVER A LITTLE BIT SO
I'M NOT GONNA CUT YOU OFF BUT-
TRY TO STAY WITHIN THE TIME
FRAME WITH THAT WITH ANY LUCK WE
WON'T NEED THE EXTRA TIME ARE
EVER THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS JASON SMELTER
HERE SHOW YOUR INTEREST MONTHS
RELYING ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA- COALITION ON WORKERS
COMPENSATION BUT ALSO TODAY THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE-
WHEN I THINK THE AUTHOR AND
STUFF FOR CONVERSATIONS WE HAD
ABOUT THE BILL APPRECIATE THE
OPEN DOOR NATURE OF OUR
CONVERSATIONS THIS YEAR- AND
HOPE TO CONTINUE THOSE. I DO
WANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF A
LEVEL SET ON WHAT UTILIZATION
REVIEW AS A FIRST. A LITTLE BIT
OF COMPARISON THIS IN CALIFORNIA
OVERSEAS AT THE CONDUCT OF
EMPLOYERS AND CLAIMS
ADMINISTRATORS THERE'S A VERY
THOROUGH SET OF AUDITS AND
PENALTIES AND ENFORCEMENT THAT
OCCUR ARE BEHAVIORS MONITORED
CLOSELY. BUT THE STATE DOESN'T
DUPLICATE THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR
WITH OTHER PLAYERS IN THE SYSTEM
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WE TALK
ABOUT UTILIZATION REVIEW. AT SO
THERE'S NO SIMILAR OVERSIGHT FOR
DOCTORS TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY'RE HEARING TO THE MEDICAL
TREATMENT UTILIZATION GUIDELINES
THAT WERE ESTABLISHED BY THIS
LEGISLATURE AND IMPLEMENTED BY
REGULATORS. INSTEAD WHAT THE
STATE HAS DONE. IS GIVEN CLAIMS
ADMINISTRATORS THE RIGHT TO
CONDUCT UTILIZATION REVIEW
THROUGH ANOTHER. POSITION TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE REQUEST ARE
CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE LAWS
THAT WERE PASSED BY YOU. WE DO
THAT. IT'S NOT EASY- BUT WE DO
IT WE ALSO DO IT WITH A SUCCESS
RATE. WHEN ITS APPEAL BY I AM
ARE OF NINETY TWO POINT 8% LAST
YEAR OVER 90% OVER THE LAST TEN
YEARS SO THE SYSTEM IS WORKING.
WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH
THAT. AND THE REASON IT EXISTS
TO BE CLEAR IS THAT THIRDS
PRETTY SHOCKING EXAMPLES. OF
PROVIDER BEHAVIOR OVER THE YEARS
THAT WEREN'T THIS TYPE OF
OVERSIGHT. IN THE LAST DECADE
WE'VE SEEN SCANDALS OVER
UNNECESSARY BACK SURGERIES WITH
A HARDWARE. FOR PROFIT- PEOPLE
WENT TO JAIL OVER THIS- WE SAW
PHYSICIANS WHO WERE REPACKAGING
DRUGS- AND- HITTING THEM OUT OF
THEIR OFFICES TO MAXIMIZE
PROFITS. AND WE'VE SEEN VAST
OVER PRESCRIPTION OF OPIOIDS I
WHICH HAVE. MASSIVE SOCIETAL
HARM. THESE ARE THE REASONS THAT
UTILIZATION REVIEW EXIST SO WITH
THAT SORT OF LEVEL SET JUST A
FEW COMMENTS ABOUT AT THIS BILL
IN PARTICULAR. OUR OVER ARCHING
CONCERN WITH SB SIX THIRTY SIX
IS THAT IT'LL MAKE UTILIZATION
REVIEW. MORE DIFFICULT. AND MORE
COSTLY BY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF
DOCTORS THAT PROVIDE THESE TYPES
OF SERVICES- ESPECIALLY
CONSIDERING THAT IN CALIFORNIA
LIKE A LOT OF OTHER PLACES WE
HAVE A PHYSICIAN SHORTAGE. I'M
FURTHER THE SCOPE OF THE BILL
CREATES A BIT OF CONFUSION AND
PUBLIC POLICY SO. UTILIZATION
REVIEW DOCTORS WOULD BE REQUIRED
TO BE LICENSED IN CALIFORNIA.
BUT ONLY THE YOU ARE DOCTORS WHO
REVIEW TREATMENT FOR EMPLOYEES
IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. ENTERED
WORKERS PRIMARY TREATING
PHYSICIAN WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE
LICENSED IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. NEITHER WOULD
SPECIALISTS. THE I AM OUR
DOCTORS THAT REVIEW YOU ARE
DOCTOR RECISION DECISIONS
WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE LICENSED IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THAT
DAY JUST DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE
LOT OF SENSE SO THERE COULD BE
MAYBE SOME SITUATIONS THAT NEED
TO BE RE EXAMINED BUT I THINK
IT'S IN WORKERS COMPENSATION
IT'S REALLY IN COURT IMPORTANT
TO TAKE A SYSTEMS PERSPECTIVE.
THIS THING NEEDS TO WORK.
TOGETHER AND THEN FINALLY- ONE
LITTLE NOTE THERE WAS A RECENT
AMENDMENT. ABOUT THE STANDARD OF
CARE. WE'RE REVIEWING THAT IT
DOES IMPACT THE CASE INCOME
PARTNERS I WOULD JUST NOTE- AS
AND AS A NON LAWYER AND IN ON
DR- THERE'S A FEW REASONS THAT
THAT CASE WAS DECIDED THE WEIGHT
WAS ONE WAS EXCLUSIVE REMEDY
WHICH IS ENTIRELY SEPARATE FROM
THE STANDARD OF CARE AND SO. WE
JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT FOR
THE RECORD LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS
ADVOCACY THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AT ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM TO DO
A ME TO TEARS OPPOSITION. SEEING
NONE LET'S TURN TO THE PHONES.
MODERATOR YOU THERE. LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN IF YOU'D LIKE TO
COMMENT AND- SUPPORT OPPOSITION
PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME.
GOOD EVENING MEMBERS STATE
MORTGAGE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF JOINT
POWERS AUTHORITIES RESPECTFULLY
APPROACH FOR THE REASONS
OUTLINED EDUCATIONAL. THANK YOU
. NEXT TO THE TO LINE ONE UP
FOR. THIS BUT- THE LUXURY WITH
THE IMPERIAL VALLEY REGIONAL
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THE NEXT
TO GO TO LINE ONE FORTY FOUR
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE. SORRY SIR
I DID NOT HEAR THAT. MARK WEBER
WOOD BURKE PARKER CALTRAIN.
STATION OPPOSE THE BILL CAME
THANK YOU. ANYTIME ANYONE ELSE
IN THE QUEUE MISTER HONOR
MODERATOR. ANOTHER NUMBER
NOTHING TO PANIC YOU MISTER
CHAIR NOPE THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT
LET'S PULL BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS CONCERNS
. WELL AND NO MOTION EITHER. SO
MOVE. THANK YOU SENATOR OKAY
WITH THAT SIR CORTESE ME CLOSE.
YEAH I DO IMAGES SAVE APPRECIATE
VERY MUCH THE OVERVIEW OF WHAT
UTILIZATION REVIEW IS- THAT WAS
MADE BY THE OPPOSITION- YOU
KNOW- HOPEFULLY THERE WAS NO RED
HERRINGS- PICKED UP THERE
BECAUSE USUALLY NOT AN ARGUMENT
ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU NEED
UTILIZATION REVIEW TO MAKE SURE
THAT THERE'S NOT FRAUD THERE'S
NOT PROBLEMS THERE'S NOT ABUSE.
OF WORSENING JUST SHOULD BE DONE
THE CALIFORNIA DOCTORS AND MAKES
IT A LOT MORE ACCOUNTABLE SO
WITH THAT IT RESPECTFULLY ASK
RIVAL. ALL RIGHT. THIS CALL THE
ROLL FILE ITEM NUMBER FIFTEEN SB
SIX THIRTY SIX THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED BUT FIRST RE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
SENATOR CORTEZ THE- CORTEZ THE
AYE SENATOR WILL GO WILK NO
SENATOR DORADO DRAWS- I SENATOR
LAYERED. LAYERED ICE SENATOR
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS HI THIS BILL IS OUT FOUR
TO ONE CONGRATULATIONS THINK OF
THIS WEAKER. ALL RIGHT LET'S
MOVE TO OUR FINAL ITEM SENATE.
I'D M. SIXTEEN S. B. 735% OF
CORTESE HAVING TO DO WITH.
MOTION PICTURE PRODUCTION SAFETY
FIREARMS YEAH THIS IS REALLY
QUICKLY CAN PROBABLY HANDLE IT
IN SIX OR SEVEN MINUTES. WE ARE
HERE BY SEVEN O'CLOCK. BUT MR
TEACHER. THANK YOU FOR DOING AN
OUTSTANDING JOB I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR THAT- TO THE CHAIR AND
MEMBERS- IN ALL SERIOUSNESS-
THIS IS. A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR
ME TO PRESENT THIS BILL SB SEVEN
THIRTY FIVE WHICH- I'VE BEEN
WORKING ON AND A LOT OF PEOPLE
WORKING ON. OVER THE LAST COUPLE
OF YEARS- IT BEGAN AS A RESPONSE
TO THE TRAGEDY ON THE RUST SAID.
YOU'LL RECALL WHAT THAT WAS
ABOUT- I WON'T GET INTO DETAILS
BUT- AS THE BILL HAS EVOLVED
THROUGH NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS.
NEGOTIATIONS SO AN OPPORTUNITY
TO BE HEARD THAT I'VE HAD WITH
THE INDUSTRY LEADERS UNIONS AND
GUILDS IN THE GROUND BREAKING
LEGISLATION I THINK THAT
ADDRESSES THE BROADER ISSUE. OF
OVERALL HEALTH HEALTH AND SAFETY
ONSETS. OF THE MAGIC OF FILM AND
TELEVISION CAN OBSCURE THE
DANGERS OF WORKING IN MOTION
PICTURE PRODUCTIONS. A SHOOTING
IS OFTEN OUTSIDE AS AS WE ALL
KNOW SUBJECT TO ALL KINDS OF
WEATHER- TOPOGRAPHICAL
CONDITIONS WERE WORKERS CAN BE
INVOLVED IN ANYTHING FROM
STUNTS. COMPLEX ELECTRICAL SET
UPS CAR CRASHES- EVEN EXPLOSIONS
AND ALL WERE WORKING LONG
IRREGULAR HOURS. WHILE OTHER
INDUSTRIES ALSO HAVE SIGNIFICANT
DANGEROUS SITUATIONS IN THE
WORKPLACE. VERY FEW HAVE AS MANY
AND AS A VERY THREATS ALL IN ONE
PLACE IT WERE THE USE OF
FIREARMS IS JUST ANOTHER DAY AT
WORK. THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY
WIDE LABOR MANAGEMENT SAFETY
COMMITTEE IN THIS STATE DEVELOP
SAFETY BOLTON'S FOR A BROAD
ARRAY OF POTENTIAL HAZARDS- LIKE
THE ONES I JUST OUTLINED
INCLUDING THE USE OF FIREARMS ON
SET. BUT THESE BOLTON'S ARE NOT
BINDING LAWS REGULATIONS. OF
THEIR ONLY RECOMMENDED
GUIDELINES. MANY RESPONSE
PRODUCTIONS FOLLOW THEM- AND
KUDOS TO THEM. BEST PRACTICES
THIS IS WHAT THESE ARE THAT THEY
HAVE ESTABLISH A BUT MANY OTHERS
DO NOT THE ULTIMATE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR SAFETY ON ANY
SAID. LIES WITH THE EMPLOYER
ACCIDENTS ARE PREVENTABLE SAFETY
MEASURES ARE PRIORITIZE FOLLOWED
IN FORCE SAFETY IS ADDRESSED. IN
THIS BILL BY TAKING A PROACTIVE
RATHER THAN REACTIVE APPROACH.
SB SEVEN THIRTY FIVE PROTECTS
WORKERS ON FILM AND TELEVISION
PRODUCTIONS BY ESTABLISHING
CLEAR MANDATORY GUIDELINES
AROUND THE USE OF FIREARMS AND
AMMUNITION SUNSETS. IT CODIFIES
MINIMUM TRAINING STANDARDS FOR
INDIVIDUALS RESPONSIBLE FOR
OVERSEEING FARMS AND ESTABLISHES
ENFORCEMENT STANDARDS FOR
VIOLATIONS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE.
EQUALLY IMPORTANT THE BILL
RECOGNIZES THAT ENSURING THE
OVERALL HEALTH AND SAFETY ON
SETS. REQUIRES ON THE GROUND
OVERSIGHT THIS BILL CREATES UP
FOR THE FIRST TIME A FIVE YEAR
PILOT THAT MANDATES ANY EMPLOYER
WHO RECEIVES A MOTION PICTURE
TAX- CREDIT TO HIRE QUALIFIED
SAFETY SUPERVISOR. OFFICER WITH
AUTHORITY- INDEPENDENT OF THE
CAST AND CREW- THOSE HAVE BEEN-
IN THE BILL. A MOST RECENTLY
DESCRIBED THE SAFETY ADVISORS
THE SAFETY. ADVISER WILL BE
TASKED WITH CONDUCTING PRE
PRODUCTION RISK ASSESSMENT WILL
BE ON SET EVERY DAY TO ENSURE
THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF CAST
CREW AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN
THE PRODUCTION. BY CODIFYING
PROVEN SAFETY MEASURES CREATED
BY THE INDUSTRY IN IMPLEMENTING
A PILOT TO TEST EMERGENCY
MEASURES THE BILL SETS UP A
FIRST IN THE NATION REGULATORY
PROCESS. TO KEEP WORKERS SAFE
AND WHOLE ENTERTAINMENT ENTITIES
ACCOUNTABLE WITH US TODAY TO
TESTIFY WE HAVE- REBECCA RYAN
FROM THE DIRECTORS GUILD OF
AMERICA. IN HYDE ENOCH AMORA THE
FROM THE CALIFORNIA I. F. C.
COUNCIL THANK YOU AGAIN MR
CHAIRMAN- I RESPECTFULLY ASK
RIVAL. THANK YOU. TWO MINUTES AS
A PRIMARY WITNESS THANK YOU
THANK YOU EVERYONE THIS EVENING
FOR PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY TO
APPEAR BEFORE YOU MY NAME'S
REBECCA RHINE AND I'M SPEAKING
TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE DIRECTORS
GUILD OF AMERICA. I AM THE
WESTERN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE DGA REPRESENTING OVER
NINETEEN THOUSAND WOMEN AND MEN
WORKING IN THE FILM AND
TELEVISION INDUSTRY ACROSS THE
COUNTRY NEARLY TEN THOUSAND OF
WHICH CALL CALIFORNIA HOME. IT
IS WELL KNOWN THAT
CINEMATOGRAPHER WHOLE LLENA
HUTCHINS UNFORTUNATELY LOST HER
LIFE IN THE REST TRAGEDY. BUT IT
IS OFTEN FORGOTTEN THAT OUR
MEMBER DIRECTOR JOEL SOUZA WAS
ALSO SHOT. SO WHILE THE JOINT
LABOR MANAGEMENT SAFETY
COMMITTEE DOESN'T EXCELLENT JOB
WRITING GUIDELINES ALL THE
SAFETY RULES IN THE WORLD ALL
THE WRITTEN PIECES OF PAPER MEAN
NOTHING IF THEY'RE NOT ENFORCED
ON THE GROUND. POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES ARE NOT ON SET
PROTECTING AN EXHAUSTED CREW IN
THE EARLY HOURS OF THE MORNING
OR THEIR TO PAUSE WHEN A
DANGEROUS SCENE IS BEING SHOT OR
WIND WEATHER AND TERRAIN MEET
ELECTRICITY IN CRANES. REAL
SAFETY IS ONLY ACHIEVED IF
SOMEONE IS PRESENT IN THE PLACE
WHERE ACCIDENTS HAPPEN. SO IN
ADDITION TO STRENGTHENING THE
FIREARMS THE REGULATIONS AROUND
FIREARMS SB SEVEN THIRTY FIVE
SEEKS TO CREATE A GROUNDBREAKING
PILOT PROGRAM THAT WILL MERE
BEST PRACTICES FROM AROUND THE
WORLD. IF ADOPTED IT WILL
REQUIRE A SAFETY ADVISOR TO
CONDUCT A DETAILED SCRIPTS
BASED. PRE PRODUCTION RISK
ASSESSMENT AND TO BE ON
PRODUCTION EACH DAY TO INSURE
THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE
CAST THE CREW AND THE PUBLIC.
BECAUSE EACH DEPARTMENT IS
NARROWLY FOCUSED ON ITS OWN WORK
NOBODY ON PRODUCTION IS SOLELY
RESPONSIBLE FOR LOOKING AT THE
BIG PICTURE. AND AT THE MYRIAD
ACTIVITIES THAT ALWAYS TAKE
PLACE SIMULTANEOUSLY AND MAY
POSE THREATS NOW SOMEONE WILL
BE. THE SAFETY SUPERVISOR MODEL
ALREADY EXISTS IN AUSTRALIA NEW
ZEALAND AND NEW ZEALAND AND THE
UNITED KINGDOM WHERE OUR OWN
EMPLOYERS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY
PRODUCED CONTENT IT CAN BE DONE
AND UNDER THIS PILOT PROGRAM IT
WILL. THE SAFETY SUPERVISORS
THERE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY
WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS
PROVIDING AN ADDED LAYER OF
PROTECTION AND ENSURING THAT
THEIR VOICES ARE HEARD THIS IS
PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT IN AN
INDUSTRY WHERE ALL JOBS
FREELANCE. BASED ON
RELATIONSHIPS AND SPEAKING OUT
MAY HURT YOUR CHANCES OF A
FUTURE JOB. AS WE LEARNED IN
COALBED WHEN OUR INDUSTRY COMES
TOGETHER TO FOCUS ON HEALTH AND
SAFETY WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE SAFE
AND BE SUCCESSFUL IT TRANSLATES
CALIFORNIA VALUES INTO ACTION
AND ONCE AGAIN ILLUSTRATES THAT
WE ARE A STATE THAT LEADS. WE
THANK THE SENATOR FOR CARRYING
THIS BILL AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
YOUR SUPPORT THANK YOU. YEAH
NINETY MINUTES YES YES I WILL
TRY TO BE VERY QUICKLY DO THIS
QUICKLY CHARTER TV COMMITTEE
MEMBERS- THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
THIS OPPORTUNITY BEFORE YOU MY
NAME IS HEIDI NAKAMURA I AM
SPEAKING. TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA IATSE COUNCILMAN
BUSINESS REP OF LOCAL SIX NINE
FIVE REPRESENTING CLOSE TO TWO
THOUSAND WOMEN AND MEN WORKING
IN THE FILM AND TV INDUSTRY IN
LA- OUR MEMBERS ARE COMPRISED OF
PRODUCTION SOUND VIDEO CREWS AND
PROJECTIONISTS. TO CAPTURE THE
SOUNDS AND BACKGROUND IMAGES
THAT BRING WHAT YOU SEE ON
SCREEN TO LIFE- WE RETIRED IN
NINETEEN THIRTY AND AT SORE
LOCAL AND ALL THE LOCALS OF THE
CIC ARE WOVEN INTO THE HISTORY
OF FILMMAKING WHICH IS VERY
DISTINCT PART OF CALIFORNIA
HISTORY- YOU KNOW IT'S NOT JUST
ABOUT GLAMOUR AND EXCITEMENT
BUT- THE REALITY- THAT IS OFTEN.
NOT HEARD ABOUT IS THE DANGER
THAT THAT TAKES PLACE IN THIS IS
ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED- BUT
THERE'S THE ELECTRICAL RIGGING
EXPLOSIONS CAR RUNNING AT HIGH
SPEED NIGHT SHOOTS. AND HEAVY
EQUIPMENT BEING LOADED ALL WHEEL
PARK PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON BELOW
OR CLOSE. TO EACH OTHER ON ALL
OF THESE ACTIVITIES. ARM ARE
CASE IN POINT THERE OFTEN OFTEN
MOVING THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT THAT
IS QUITE HEAVY AND MUST BE
MOVING VERY GINGERLY TO BECAUSE
IT'S ALL TECHNICAL. EQUIPMENT
BUT IT ALSO HAS TO BE MOVED
AROUND QUITE QUICKLY ON SAT- BUT
THIS IS COMPOUNDED WITH A LONG
WORK- LONG WORKDAYS AND
WORKWEEKS WERE THE NORM IS YOU
KNOW. AT LEAST SIXTY HOURS A
WEEK. WHEN PEOPLE HAVE LONG
HOURS AND WHICH THE TIMES ARE
VERY IRREGULAR SLEEP SLEEP
DEPRIVATION OCCURS. HAVING A
SAFETY PERSON ON SET POTENTIALLY
COULD MITIGATE ANY SAFETY ISSUES
THAT MAY BE. NOT COMPLETELY
APPARENT TO FOLKS THAT ARE
REALLY TIRED ON SAT- ANYWAY THEY
ARE CENTER FULL OF PROFESSIONALS
WHO KEEP WHO CARE VERY DEEPLY
ABOUT SAFETY. BUT AS REBEKAH HAD
MENTIONED EVERYBODY'S KIND OF
FOCUSED ON OUR OWN DEPARTMENT
RIGHT- WHAT HAS BEEN MISSING IS
A PERSON ON PRODUCTION IS
SUPPOSED FOCUSED ON EXCLUSIVELY
ON SAFETY. AND LOOKS ACROSS THE
DEPARTMENTS AND CRAFTS AND
COLLABORATES WITH THEM. AND THE
EXPERTS ON SET TO ENSURE THAT
ALL OF THE WORKERS ARE SAFE OKAY
CAN YOU GET YOUR CONCLUSION YES-
SB SEVEN THIRTY FIVE THE
LANDMARK LEGISLATION THAT
CREATES A SAFETY OF PRODUCTION
PILOT. PROGRAM THIS PROGRAM
WOULD MANDATE THE PRESENCE OF A
SAFETY ADVISOR ON OUR
PRODUCTIONS THAT RECEIVE THE
CALIFORNIA FILM TAX CREDIT WE
THANK SENATOR CORTESE FOR
AUTHORIZING THIS IMPORTANT BILL.
AND WE ASK. FOR AN AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE
ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADD A ME
TOO. THANK YOU MITCH SNIDER WITH
THE CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION
ALSO IN SPORTS THANK YOU. HI
PATRICK BURBAGE BUSINESS REP
FROM IATSE LOCAL EIGHT SEVEN ONE
IN FAVOR THANK YOU. SHANE GUSMAN
ON BEHALF OF THE TEAMSTERS AND
SAG AFTER IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
THANK YOU. TOM DAVIS PRESIDENT
OF THE CALIFORNIA TO SEE COUNSEL
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. ALEXANDAR
WITH LABOUR'S LOCAL SEVEN TWENTY
FOUR IN SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK
YOU. BRITNEY CHAPMAN VICE
PRESIDENT OF THE MOTION PICTURE
CUSTOMERS LOCAL SEVEN OH FIVE IN
SUPPORT THANKS. ANGELA MOSS
MEMBER OF LOCAL SEVEN OH SIX
MAKE UP AND HAIR GUILD EXECUTIVE
BOARD MEMBER POLITICAL CORDAY
COORDINATOR IN FAVOR YES THEY
CAN. MORE EASILY LOCAL SEVEN OH
SIX MEMBER- IS SUPPORT THANK YOU
. DANA WORDS COSTUME DESIGNERS
GUILD MEMBER LOCALLY NINETY TWO-
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. HELLO
LESLIE SIMMONS- ANIMATION GUILD
IATSE LOCAL EIGHT THIRTY NINE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. BOB DENNY
MOTION PICTURE SET PAINTERS AND
SIGN WRITERS IATSE LOCAL SEVENTY
NINE IN FAVOR THANK YOU. LOCAL
WEATHER ALLOW SUCH A TO SEE
BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE LOCAL
EIGHTY IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ALEX TONSON IATSE LOCAL SIX
HUNDRED THE INTERNATIONAL
CINEMATOGRAPHERS GUILD IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. YEAH ADAM
WEST MOTION PICTURE CUSTOMERS
THE BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE
IATSE LOCAL SEVEN OH FIVE IN
FULL SUPPORT TAKING. JOANNE
DESMOND I A. T. A C. LOCAL
SIXTEEN FROM SAN FRANCISCO IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. MARIE
SHINE ASSISTANT BUSINESS AGENT
IOTTIE LOCAL SIXTEEN SAN
FRANCISCO WE STAND STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. WRESTLECON
THE ANIMATION GUILD IATSE LOCAL
EIGHT THREE NINE IN SPORT THANK
YOU. MALACHI SIMMONS SET
LIGHTING TECHNICIANS LOCAL.
SEVEN TWENTY EIGHT. IN SUPPORT
FOR THE MEMBERS OF OUR THREE
THOUSAND MEMBERS OF CURRENT
MEMBERS AND FUTURE MEMBERS WERE
IN SUPPORT BY. MICHAEL MADISON
LOCAL SEVEN TO NINE- PAIN AS A
SONGWRITER. THANK YOU. PHILIP
KWANZAA RECORDING SECRETARY
LOCAL THREE NINETY NINE TEAMS
TO. RANK AND FILE DRIVER IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ED DUFFY
BUSINESS AGENT TEAMSTERS LOCAL
THREE NINETY NINE IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING FORGET A
ROMANOV- COSTUME DESIGNERS GUILD
LOCAL EIGHT NINE TWO IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. KATHY GARMENTS HE
ENTERTAINED UNION COALITION IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MELISSA PATAK
WITH THE MOTION PICTURE
ASSOCIATION ON BEHALF OF THE MPA
AND OUR MEMBER COMPANIES WE WANT
TO. RECOGNIZE CENTER CORTESE AND
HIS STAFFERS LEADERSHIP AND NOTE
THAT WE HAVE ARE REALLY
APPRECIATING THE OPPORTUNITY TO
WORK WITH YOU ON THIS IS A FEW
LITTLE THINGS TO FIX TO IRON OUT
WE- AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL
CREATE- A LANDMARK PILOT PROGRAM
FOR SAFETY ADVISER AND ALSO
INCORPORATE. BOB OUR BEST
PRACTICES INTO LAW ON A SAFE
HANDLING OF- PROP FIRE ARMS AND
BLANK AMMUNITION THANK YOU. GOOD
EVENING VICTORY IS EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE HOLLYWOOD CPR
CINEMA PRODUCTION RESOURCE
TRAINING PROGRAM IT IS THREE
LOCAL FORTY FOUR WRAPPED IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
PRIMARY. THING THAT ANYONE IN
THE ROOM THAT WANTS TO DO ME TO
OPPOSITION. SEEING NO NONE LET'S
GO TO OUR TELECONFERENCE CENTER
. MISTER MODERATOR YOU THERE.
LADYKILLERS IF YOU LIKE DOING
MAKE A COMMENT IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF SB SEVEN THIRTY
FIVE YEAR PRESS ONE AND DIRECT
TIME. SB JUST A MOMENT FOR THE
FOR SOME THANK YOU. OKAY ALL
RIGHT WE'LL GO TO LINE ONE FORTY
FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU
MISTER CHURCH MEMBERS- I LIKE
LESS THAN TWO MINUTES TO FOR A
QUICK STATEMENT ABOUT THIS IF I
MAY YOU CANNOT- AT THIS POINT IT
HAS TO BE IN DAYS OUR
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION- OKAY
MY NAME IS CLARK JAMES I'M THE
EXECUTIVE SECRETARY OF THE
ALLIANCE SPECIAL EFFECTS AND
PYROTECHNIC OPERATORS. HUNDREDS
OF PIRATE TECHNICIANS AND
SPECIAL EFFECTS PROFESSIONALS
AND A MEMBER OF AYE AYE TO
LOOKING FORTY FOUR THE SPECIAL
EFFECTS CRAFT. WE STAND WITH
THOUSANDS OF OUR UNION BROTHERS
AND SISTERS. YES BILL SERRANO SO
THAT'S SOMETHING THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TESTIMONY THANK YOU LETTER
IN NEXT ONE. NEXT WE'LL GO TO
LINE ONE FIFTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. A JOHN KELSO MEMBER AT
LARGE LOCAL FORTY FOUR OPPOSE
THANK YOU. THANKS TO THE
TIMELINE ONE THIRTY THREE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS JAMES
STRAIGHT UP INSPECTION
COORDINATOR FOR THE LAST THIRTY
YEARS I'M A FORMER EXECUTIVE
BOARD MEMBER LOCAL FORTY FOUR
FOR THE PAST TWENTY YEARS. IN
OPPOSITION OF THIS WELL
INTENTIONED BUT NOT QUITE READY
FOR PRIME TIME. IT WAS LATER
THANK YOU SIR I GET A REMIND
CALLERS IT IS YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION IF YOU HAVE ONE AND
YOUR POSITION. THAT'S IT I
UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO OTHERS IN
Q. OKAY WONDERFUL SO NOW FULLER
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE PRETTY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS CONCERNS.
OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION FROM
SENATOR ALSO BUT BEFORE WE GO TO
YOUR CLOTHES ARE YOU TAKING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS I AM TAKING
THE COMMUNIQUES OKAY SO WE HAVE
THAT ON RECORD SO WITH THAT YOU
MAY CLOSE. IF THANK YOU TO YOUR
WILK- LET ME JUST USE
OPPORTUNITY FOR. A MINUTE OF
GRATITUDE- I WANT TO THANK ALL
THE FOLKS THAT YOU HEARD- COME
UP AND TESTIFY HERE FROM THE
COMMITTEE ROOM FOR THEIR-
EXTRAORDINARY EFFORTS TO
COLLABORATE- THIS IS THE SECOND
TIME I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE
BILL THAT'S- UP MOVE FORWARD-
ASSUMING IT DOES TODAY- THAT-
THE BROUGHT TOGETHER INDUSTRY
THAT BROUGHT TOGETHER MANAGEMENT
BROUGHT TOGETHER- LABOR BROUGHT
TOGETHER LABOR LOCALS- ALL TO.
CREATE A- A PRODUCT THAT I
THINK- THEY ALL SHOULD BE PROUD
OF I THINK OF THIS CALIFORNIA
INDUSTRY WHICH LEADS THE WORLD-
SHOULD BE PROUD OF- THEY'VE
ESTABLISHED THE BEST PRACTICES-
RUST WASN'T- PER SE ABOUT THEM
BUT THEY STILL CAME FORWARD AND
SAID. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
HERE TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE
PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA- THAT WE'RE WILLING
TO TAKE OUR BEST PRACTICES. I
MAKE IN THE STANDARD OF FOR
EVERYBODY ELSE- INCLUDING THOSE
FOLKS WHO WHO ARE. INVOLVED IN
THE BIGGEST. PICTURES IN THE
BIGGEST STUDIOS AND THE BIGGEST
SETS IN THE WORLD SO I'M
GRATEFUL TO THEM- HEY DID YOU
WANT TO KNOWLEDGE THAT THE
OPPOSITION VOICE THAT WE HEARD-
IS REFLECTED IN A LETTER THAT WE
JUST. RECEIVED IT'S ACTUALLY
DATED AUGUST SEVENTEENTH BUT
UNLESS WE'RE IN BACK TO THE
FUTURE I THINK IT MEANS OF.
APRIL SEVENTEENTH IT. RIGHT
THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT
CENTER- JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
THEM WE'RE CREATURES. OF
BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND- OF THE
POINTS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO
MAKE THE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH THE INDUSTRY ON WHATEVER.
REFINEMENTS NEED TO HAPPEN ALONG
THE WAY- THANK YOU AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. WITH
THAT LET'S CALL THE ROLL. FILE
ITEM NUMBER SIXTEEN SB SEVEN
THIRTY FIVE THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED THE FIRST AMEND AND RE
REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
JUDICIARY SENATOR CORTEZ THE-
PROTEST THE AYE SENATOR WELL HI.
WELCOME HI SENATOR DORADO DORADO
AYE SENATOR LAYERED. LAYERED ICE
SENATOR SMALLWOOD CUEVAS
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS HI THIS BILL IS
OUT FIVE TWO ZERO.
YES OWN- MEMBERS BEFORE WE HAVE
MEMBERS LEAVE- WE DO NEED TO LET
THE CALL. AND GET THE REST OF
BOATS ON RECORD- SO WE'RE GOING
TO HAVE A COMMITTEE ASSISTANCE
START WITH THE CONSENT CALENDAR
AND THEN MOVE RIGHT THROUGH
THANK YOU. FILE ITEMS NUMBER TWO
THREE FOUR THIRTEEN AND
SEVENTEEN ALL ON CONSENTS
SENATOR LAYERED. LAYERED ICE
AND- SMALLWOOD CUEVAS SMALLWOOD
FAVORS HI THOSE BILLS ARE OUT ON
A FIVE TWO ZERO BUT- MOVING ON
WE HAVE FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE SB
THREE THIRTY THE MOTION IS TO
PASS BUT FIRST RE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY THE CHAIR
IS VOTING NO IN THE VICE CHAIRS
VOTING ICE SENATOR SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS. NO SMALLWOOD CUEVAS NO
THIS BILL FAILS. ONE TWO FOUR.
THE BILL SO THAT THE LOCAL FILE
ITEM NUMBER ONE. ARE YOU THIS
WEEK THREE THE WAY TO. OKAY YES
. WITHOUT OBJECTION-
RECONSIDERATION IS GRANTED. ALL
THIS WEEK. YEAH. THE NEW.
ALRIGHT YEAH. WE'VE GOT WE'VE
COMPLETED- WHO COMPLETED THE
CALL APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S-
DURATION AT- CAPACITY TODAY TO
STICK WITH US STILL- ALMOST
SEVEN FIFTEEN PM AND WITH THAT-
THE STAFF- YOU'VE ALL DONE A
GREAT JOB I THINK MY CHIEF OF
STAFF CENTURY BURLY FOR ALL HER
EFFORT INCLUDING ON THAT LAST
BILL IN WITHOUT A LEDGER AND.
WE'RE SORRY YOUR CONFERENCE IS
ENDING NOW PLEASE HANG UP.