ARE USER BEING WAY TOO QUIET
IT'S MAKING ME NERVOUS- MARBLE
AND WE CALL THE SAN RAMON
QUALITY COMMITTEE TO ORDER
OBVIOUSLY WE ARE STILL AWAITING
A QUORUM SO WILL START AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE. AS YOU KNOW WE
CONTINUE TO WELCOME PUBLIC IN
PERSON- BUT ALSO VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS OF FOR
THOSE FOLKS WHO WANT TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY ON THE
PHONE LINES AND NOT IN PERSON
THE PARTISAN NUMBERS
877-226-8163 THE ACCESS CODE IS
. SEVEN THREE SIX TWO EIGHT
THREE FOUR. HOLIER COMMITTEE
HEARINGS HERE IN THE- STREET
BUILDING IN SACRAMENTO I ASKED
THAT THE MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE
COME ON DOWN BE PRESENT HERE IN
ROOM TWELVE HUNDRED SO WE CAN
ESTABLISH A QUORUM BEGINNER
HEARING. A COUPLE IMPORTANT
POINTS TO MAKE UP HI CENTER HER
TADO IS NOT AVAILABLE TODAY
SHE'S BEEN REPLACED FOR THE DAY
ON THE COMMITTEE BY ASSEMBLY MON
. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF SIXTEEN
BILLS ON TODAY'S AGENDA TO
WARRANT THE CONSENT CALENDAR I
AM SO FIFTEEN EIGHTY THAT'S SB
THREE OH THREE S. BEFORE NINETY
THREE. WE HAVE THREE BILLS THAT
HAVE BEEN- PULLED FROM THIS
HEARING ITEM SEVEN THAT'S S. B.
SEVENTY SIXTY EIGHT. THAT ONE'S
WITH CAN BE TO YOUR BILL WE'VE
GOT ITEM FOURTEEN S. B. TWO
THIRTY NINE. THAT'S BEEN PULLED
AND THEN ITEM TWELVE SB SEVEN
FORTY WE'RE PUSHING OVER TILL
NEXT WEEK- THERE'S BEEN SOME
VERY PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS
BETWEEN STAKEHOLDERS ON THAT
BILL. BUT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO
COME IN AGREEMENT WE'RE HOPING
THAT. WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET TO
THIS WEEK SO THAT'S ITEM SEVEN
FORTY. HI THE CORTES A BILL THAT
WILL BE ON THE- GENDA NEXT
WEEKEND NEXT WEEK'S HEARING. ON
WEDNESDAY. SO WITH THAT LET'S
GET STARTED. I SEE DOCTOR JONES
HERE- WHY DON'T YOU COME IN
PRESENT ITEM ONE THAT'S SB
THIRTY TO. A MAGICAL MAGICAL
BILL NUMBER HERE IN COMMITTEE AS
A MEASURE SB THIRTY TWO. SO
MAYBE IT'S SIMILAR GOAL YES YES
ORDER THEM WITH THAT WITH THAT
COMMENT I'VE JUST MAKE A MOTION
WE PUT ON CONSENT. THERE YOU GO
. WOULD THAT WORK. WELL WE'RE I
THINK WE'RE GONNA OUT TODAY SO
ALMOST AS GOOD THANK YOU. AT YOU
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS AT
TODAY BRING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.
TO MAKE YOUR CONSTITUENTS LIVES
OF MY CONSTITUENTS LIVES MORE
AFFORDABLE HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
SB THIRTY TWO WILL IMMEDIATELY
IMMEDIATELY LOWER THE COST OF
GAS GASOLINE CALIFORNIA BY ONE
DOLLAR PER GALLON. BY LOWERING
THE STATE GAS TAXES AND FEES FOR
ONE YEAR. THE SAVINGS WILL ALLOW
CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS TO BETTER
AFFORD BASIC NECESSITIES THEY
HAVE HAD TO SACRIFICE. IN ORDER
TO FUEL UP THEIR VEHICLES. THIS
MEASURE REAP REQUIRES A SAVINGS
TO BE APPLIED DIRECTLY TO THE
CONSUMER BECAUSE CALIFORNIA
MOTORISTS NEED RELIEF NOW. NONE
OF THE SO CALLED SOLUTIONS THAT
HAVE BEEN DEBATED IN THIS
BUILDING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL
WEEKS AND MONTHS. THAT HAVE BEEN
ACT ENACTED ACTUALLY HAVE MADE A
DIFFERENCE IN THE CONCERT THE
PRICE A CONSUMER PAYS FOR
GASOLINE AT THE PUMP. THIS BILL
WILL. EVEN PRESIDENT BIDEN
CALLED ON STATES TO PROVIDE
DIRECT RELIEF TO CONSUMERS BY
SUSPENDING THEIR OWN GAS TAXES.
AND MANY STATES HAVE DONE THAT.
LAST YEAR GAS PRICES SOARED AS
HIGH AS SEVEN DOLLARS A GALLON
IN SOME AREAS OF THE STATE. AND
ON THAT'S ON TOP OF THE RISING
INFLATION AND COST OF LIVING.
ARE CONSIDERED SHOULD NOT HAVE
TO MAKE THE CHOICE BETWEEN
FILLING UP THEIR GAS TANK AND
PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR
THEIR FAMILY. MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS ASKED FOR AN AYE VOTE ON
SB THIRTY TWO TO MAKE ALL
CALIFORNIANS LIVES BETTER. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. SENATE JONES.
LET'S HEAR FROM SUPPORT
WITNESSES. YEAH HELLO A SCOTT
COCHRAN HOWARD JARVIS TAXPAYERS
ASSOCIATION- THERE'S BEEN MUCH
FINGER POINTING RECENT WEEKS OR
WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THE HIGH
COST OF GAS IN CALIFORNIA CLAIMS
OF PRICE GOUGING CORPORATE GREED
AND MYSTERY SURCHARGES. BUT IT'S
NOT ALL A MYSTERY WHEN OTHER
CALIFORNIANS TODAY APRIL
NINETEENTH ARE ON AVERAGE PAYING
A DOLLAR TWENTY TWO MORE THAN
THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
ILLEGALLY SEVENTY TWO CENTS OF
THAT IS THE RESULT OF HIGHER
TAXES ENVIRONMENTAL FEES AND OUR
SPECIAL FUEL PLANS. AND I WOULD
ARGUE THE NUMBER IS LIKELY
HIGHER ONE THREE MANY OF THE
OTHER MANDATES BUSINESSES MUST
FALL IN CALIFORNIA. WE ALSO
HIGHER GASOLINE PRICES HAVE A
CRIPPLING EFFECT ON RESIDENTS ON
FIXED INCOMES AND FIXED IN
LIMITED INCOMES ESPECIALLY THOSE
WHO RELY ON. LONG COMMUTES TO GO
TO WORK. OR THOSE WHO REQUIRED
DRIVING AS PART OF THEIR JOB.
AND WE KNOW THAT WE CAN DO
SOMETHING ABOUT THAT TODAY. AB
THIRTY TWO EXAMS TRANSPORTATION
FUEL SUPPLIERS FROM CALIFORNIA'S
CAP AND TRADE PROGRAM LOW CARBON
FUEL STANDARD AND GAS TAX FOR
ONE YEAR. IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY
LOWER THE COST OF FILLING UP IN
CALIFORNIA AND BRING REACH
MEDIATE RELIEF TO MILLIONS AT
THE PUMP I ASK FOR YOUR I. BOATS
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR- LET'S
HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO WANTS TO A
INSTEAD. FOR THE BILL. OKAY FIVE
IN. OPPOSITION OPPOSITION- FOLKS
WANT TO WASTE RAISE CONCERNS
ABOUT THE BILL. NINE NINE HERE.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME AND LISTED
BUT- OKAY WHEN WE GO TO. THE
PHONE LINES ARE YOURS IS ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO JUST WIN ME TOO. ON
THIS NOW OKAY FOR THE PHONE
LINES AND ON SB THIRTY TWO.
MISTER CHAIR. ARE YOU READY FOR
COMMENT WE SURE ARE. ALL RIGHT
ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON
THIS BILL PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. M. MISTER
CHAIR THERE IS NO ONE. MAKE IT
EASY FOR YOU TO. ALL RIGHT.
GOVERNOR ALI. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR OF THE PERSON YOU BRING
THE BILL FORWARD I WANT TO JUST
MAKE IF YOU MAKE A MOTION TO
REMOVE THE BILL- WHEN WE HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY WITH CORN. HOW
TO MOVE THE BILL BUT I WANTED
JUST TO SAY THE YOU KNOW. WE
APPLY TAXES ON THE TAXES THAT WE
HAVE- ARE NOT YOU KNOW WE WE'VE
HEARD IN THIS COMMITTEE ABOUT
THE FIFTY TWO CENTS WHICH IS
THE- AMOUNT OF TAX THAT WE USED
TO- TAKE CARE OF OUR ROADS THAT
THAT MONEY ACTUALLY. ROADS BUT
THERE'S A LOT OTHER TAXES THAT
DON'T THE MOST THE PUBLIC
DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ARE IN- OUR
FUEL COST. AND THAT IS OUR LOW
CARBON FUEL STANDARDS ARE
SPECIAL BLENDS AND THAT CAP AND
TRADE MONIES THAT GO- THE COME
OUT FREE THAT ORDER CHARGE INTO
THE GAS BEFORE- IT ACTUALLY GOES
TO THE POP IN THOSE THOSE FIFTY
TWO CENTS COME ON SO I THINK
THAT TIME. IF CALIFORNIANS
UNDERSTOOD- THAT BECAUSE OF OUR
CAP AND TRADE LAWS THAT THE
EMITTER TOP TO ACTUALLY BUY
CREDITS- AND THAT GETS BAKED
INTO THE FUEL COST. AT THIS NOT.
IN OTHER STATES AND SO I
APPRECIATE YOU BRING THE BILL
FORWARD ACTUALLY. HIGHLIGHT THAT
ABILITY AND YOU KNOW THE CRAZY
THING WAS I WAS JUST IN MY
OFFICE. WATCHING THEIR QUALITY
STANDARDS AND WHICH CITIES IN
THE NATION. HAVE THE BEST AIR
QUALITY AND WHICH ONES HAVE THE
WORST. AND WE'RE LEADING THE
NATION HERE IN CALIFORNIA
SUPPOSEDLY- WITH- OUR-
ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS- BUT RIGHT
AROUND SACRAMENTO HERE- OUR KIDS
ARE CITIES THAT WERE LOCAL HERE
EVEN SACRAMENTO HAS SOME OF THE
WORST AIR QUALITY IN THE NATION-
SO ARE WE REALLY MEETING OUR
STANDARDS AND WE SAW- LAST YEAR.
OR THE YEAR BEFORE WHEN- CENTER
BRADFORD ASKED FOR AN AUDIT OF
THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES
BOARD- THAT ALL OF THE MONEY
WE'RE SPENDING USING GETTING. US
THE BANG FOR THE BUCK WE'RE NOT
MEETING OUR GOAL SO I APPRECIATE
YOU BRING THE BILL FOR TO HAVE
THE CONVERSATION I'M ASSUMING.
IT'S GONNA HAVE A TOUGH TIME IN
THIS COMMITTEE TODAY- BUT- I
THINK YOU I THINK WE NEED TO
HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND
ACTUALLY TO TRY TO DRIVE THE
COST DOWN. FOR CALIFORNIA SO
THANK YOU FOR THAT THANK YOU SIR
DOWN. YEAH THE COMMENTS
OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW I THINK.
SENATOR KNOWS THAT YOU'RE TAKING
IT BUT BIG- SWIPE AT SOME
MILLION. CLIMATE AND- AND
POLLUTION. FINDS WITH THIS BILL
AND I GOT SO ANGRY ONE OF THE
CHALLENGES WE HAVE HERE CENTER
DOLLY IS OUR GEOGRAPHY THAT BOTH
BOTH IN THAT THE SOUTHLAND BASIN
IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY. ARE SUCH
THAT- IT DOES MAKE IT HARDER FOR
US TO HAVE A CLEANER AIR
ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO THE EAST
COAST WITH ABOUT THE GULF STREAM
JUST PUSHING THE POLLUTION OFF.
INTO THE OCEAN EVERY EVERY DAY-
WARS YOU KNOW IT'S KIND OF STUCK
IT SITS HERE- WHETHER YOU WEAR
THE YOU LIVE IN AN L. A. R. IN
THE VALLEY AND TIMES PART OF WHY
WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD TO TRY
TO TRY TO KEEP MAKE SURE THAT
OUR CARS ARE BURNING CLEANER-
ANYWAY. I LOOK IT'S BEEN A BIG
DISCUSSION I WAS KIND OF WEIRD
LARGE WE HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION
WE DISCOVER C. PASS S. B. X. ONE
AND TWO. I REALLY NEED TO GAS.
BY PRICE GOUGING AND FOR
BUSINESS PRACTICES BUT YOU'RE
RIGHT TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT
THIS IS A PART OF THE GAS COST
TO MEN AND I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING
TO HIGHLIGHT THAT ISSUE WITH
THIS BILL AND- I. DON'T THINK
ANYONE HERE IS A AFRAID OF THAT
COVERS. SO I AM ANYWAY. WE WE'RE
GONNA A MOTION WHEN. WE HAVE A
QUORUM- BUT AS A APPRECIATE YOU
SENATOR AND LET TO GIVE YOU THE-
BECAUSE- THANK YOU I APPRECIATE
THE THIS IS A- SIMPLE BILL TO
BRING RELIEF. ALL OF OUR OVER
BURDENED CONSTITUENTS. ALL RIGHT
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
VOTE TO CUT OUR STATE GAS TAX BY
ONE DOLLAR FOR ONE YEAR. AND
MORE IMPORTANTLY CUT OUR
CONSTITUENTS A BREAK. THANK YOU
FOR MUCHAS DRIVER. THANK YOU
THANK YOU CENTER. OKAY PLEASE
CHECK. THAT LET'S NAY. GO TO. US
WHO'S HERE. A BACKER OF. CERTAIN
OKAY ALL RIGHT WE'LL GO FOR IT
GO FOR IT. D. EASE. THE SENATORS
GIVE. DEAD THAT'S VERY KIND.
WILL REACH OR IT'S NOT DEAD.
IT'S NOT THAT. OKAY SO WE'LL
HEAR FROM CENTER US OF THIS ITEM
FOR IN YOUR GENDER. I BEFORE
FIFTEEN YOU MAY EMAIL FOR. WHEN
READY. CENTER THANK YOU MISTER.
AND- MA'AM. AND THANK YOU TO THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR YOUR
THOUGHTFUL. ANALYSIS AS BEFORE
FIFTY WILL ENSURE. THEIR
DISTRICTS AND CARP TAKE ACCOUNT
OF THE SOCIO. ECONOMIC IMPACTS
OF THEIR POLICIES. ON LOW INCOME
AND WORKING CLASS CALIFORNIANS.
AND THE POLICY MAKERS HAVE
INFORMATION. ABOUT THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THEIR
POLICIES. THIS BILL WOULD
REQUIRE THE- DISTRICTS TO FOCUS
THEIR- SOCIO ECONOMIC IMPACT
ANALYSIS OF RULES AND
REGULATIONS. ON THE IMPACTS OF
FAMILIES WHOSE INCOMES ARE BELOW
A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE BIG
BUSINESSES ONLY. THIS BILL WILL
REQUIRE CARP TO INCORPORATE
SOCIO ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS-
AND FOCUS AGAIN ON THESE
FAMILIES. IT INCLUDES EXPLICIT
REQUIREMENTS OUGHT TO
INCORPORATE INFORMATION ON THE
EFFECTS OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND A
MUCH WIDER RANGE OF ECONOMIC
IMPACTS ADDITIONALLY FOR BOTH
AIR DISTRICTS AND CARB THIS BILL
ADDS STANDARDS. FOR CONTRACTING
WITH THIRD PARTY. FOR THE
ANALYSIS THE LEGISLATURE HAS
GIVEN AIR DISTRICTS AND CARB THE
POWER TO APPROVE PROGRAMS AND
RULES THAT HAVE PROFOUND
CONSEQUENCES FOR WORKING
FAMILIES AND LOW INCOME
FAMILIES. MANY CLIMATE SOLUTIONS
DISPROPORTIONATELY BURDENED THE
POOR AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
WHEN THE LEGISLATURE ADOPTED
CALIFORNIA'S RECYCLING PROGRAMS
DECADES AGO THEY LEFT OUT
ANYTHING RELATED TO WAGE POLICY
IT WAS LEFT TO ORDINARY PEOPLE
TO MAKE FIGHT TO MAKE GREEN JOBS
QUOTE UNQUOTE THAT IMMIGRANT
WORKERS DID THEY SORTED THROUGH
DANGEROUS WASTE WITHOUT SAFETY
GLOVES AND FOR WAGES THAT ARE
SOCIETAL DISGRACE. THAT WOULD
NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF THE
LEGISLATURE HAD TIED ECONOMIC
JUSTICE TO ENVIRONMENTAL
SUSTAINABILITY AND NOW MANY
YEARS LATER WHEN THE LEGISLATURE
PASSED THE CLIMATE PACKAGE AT
THE END OF LAST YEAR SESSIONS
THESE BILLS DID NOT PROVIDE AN
ANALYSIS OF SOCIAL ECONOMIC
IMPACTS. FINALLY IN NOVEMBER OF
TWENTY TWENTY TWO ARE- RELEASED
SOCIAL ECONOMIC IMPACT DATA
SHOWING THE DISPROPORTIONATE
FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF THE TWENTY
TO TWENTY TWENTY TWO SCHOOL
BEING PLANNED ON LOW INCOME
MINORITY HOUSEHOLDS PARTICULARLY
HIGHLIGHTING THE DISPARITY
NEGATIVE IMPACT ON FAMILIES
MAKING UNDER A HAN. A HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT'S WHY MY
BILL WILL ENSURE WE ARE
COLLECTING THE TYPE OF DATA TO
MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE FULL
ECONOMICS IMPACTS OF THESE TYPES
OF RULES AND REGULATIONS WE NEED
THE RIGHT INFORMATION. TO BE
ABLE TO PLAN EFFECTIVELY. LOOK
AT BOTTLE AND THE RESEARCH FROM
UC IRVINE WHICH SHOWED THAT CODE
UNDOCUMENTED LATINO INDIGENOUS
IMMIGRANTS HAVE BEEN
SYSTEMICALLY LEFT OUT OF
DISASTER PLANNING IN CALIFORNIA.
AND WHEN TRAGEDY DOES STRIKE
RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT THOSE
WHO LIVE IN UNDER RESOURCE
COMMUNITIES HAVE LITTLE
RECOURSE. AIR DISTRICTS AND
CARBS SHOULD ASSESS CONSEQUENCES
I THE WORKING CLASS IS B.
FOURTEEN FACILITATES A FULLER
UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPACTS ON
THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP OUR STATE
MOVING AND THRIVING.
HOUSEKEEPERS GARDENERS
FARMWORKERS CONSTRUCTION WORKERS
JANITORS NURSES FACTORY WORKERS
SHOULD HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION
THEY NEED TO SUPPORT TRULY
EQUITABLE POLICIES MY WITNESSES
TODAY OUR DOCTOR CATHERINE GROUP
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CENTRAL VALLEY AIR QUALITY
COALITION. AND LAUREN THE KI¾M
CLIMATE CO DIRECTOR AT LAYING
THE LOS ANGELES ALLIANCE FOR A
NEW ECONOMY THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR THANK YOU. FOR ME
WITNESSES. I COULDN'T CHAIR ALAN
COMMITTEE DR KATHY GROUP BACK
DIRECTOR AND CO CHAIR OF THE
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ADVISORY
COMMITTEE AT THE CALIFORNIA AIR
RESOURCES BOARD. THANK YOU FOR
THE CHANCE TO SUPPORT SB FOUR
FIFTEEN TO ENSURE EFFORTS FOR
CLEAN AIR TRULY INCREASE
BENEFITS AND DECREASE BURDENS
FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES. THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA CLAIMS AN
ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP ROLE
YET DOESN'T CURRENTLY ASSESS THE
SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF
OUR POLICIES ON LOW INCOME
CALIFORNIANS. SB FOUR FIFTEEN
WOULD IMPROVE OUR UNDERSTANDING
OF THE IMPACTS ON WORKING PEOPLE
BY REQUIRING AIR DISTRICTS IN
CARP TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. THE
IMPACT OF PROPOSED ACTIONS ON
FAMILIES MAKING UNDER A HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS WHICH IS
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR REGION
LIKE THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY
WHICH IS ONE OF THE POOREST
PLACES IN THE UNITED STATES. THE
MAJORITY OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS MAKE
LESS THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLARS WE ARE THE MOST POLLUTED
AIR BASIN IN THE UNITED STATES
FOR FINE PARTICLES AND WE
COMPETE WITH THE SOUTH COAST FOR
BEING THE MOST POLLUTED FOR
OZONE. WE HAVE OUR HOME TO TWO
OF THE TARGET LARGEST TOXIC
WASTE DUMPS WEST OF THE
MISSISSIPPI AND WE LIGHT UP THE
COW AND VIBRO SCREEN MAP. AND
BREEDERS ARE PAYING WITH OUR
HEALTH. THE TWO THOUSAND SEVEN
STUDY ESTIMATED THAT THE SOUTH
COAST IN SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY ARE
LOSING TWENTY EIGHT BILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR- DUE TO COST LIKE
MISSED SCHOOL AND WORK DAYS AND
PREMATURE DEATH. AND THOSE COSTS
ARE LIKELY UNDERESTIMATED AS
SENATOR DRAWS- MENTIONED THE
TWENTY TWENTY TO SCOPING PLAN
THAT YOU TRACK DEVELOPED DOZENS
OF ROBUST RECOMMENDATIONS TO
ENSURE THAT WE WERE- IMPROVING
PUBLIC HEALTH AND REDUCING
SOCIAL COSTS BUT MANY OF THOSE
WERE LEFT ON THE TABLE BECAUSE
OF THE ASSESSMENT BEING WEIGHTED
TOWARDS THE COST TO BUSINESS.
AND THE FINAL SCOPING PLAN
ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE POLICIES
ADOPTED WILL CREATE A
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT FOR LOW
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND BENEFIT
WEALTHY HOUSEHOLDS. SO TO
IMPROVE ASSESSMENTS OF IMPACTS
OF CLEAN AIR POLICIES ON LOW
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. AND TO INFORM
MORE EQUITABLE PAUL SEES PLEASE
VOTE YES ON AS FOUR FOR. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS MY NAME
IS LAUREN IT KI¾M. AND I AM THE
CLIMATE CO DIRECTOR OF THE LOS
ANGELES ALLIANCE FOR NEW ECONOMY
OR LANE. AND WE ARE HERE TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL
FOR FIFTEEN AND THANK YOU FOR
THE SENATOR ALSO FOR HER
LEADERSHIP ON THIS AND ON
CLIMATE EQUITY AND WORKER EQUITY
MORE BROADLY. LANE WORKS WITH
LABOR AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO
ADVANCE CLIMATE ECONOMIC AND
RACIAL EQUITY THROUGH POLICIES
THAT INCREASE ENVIRONMENTAL AND
ECONOMIC BENEFITS PARTICULARLY
TO WORKING CLASS COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR INCOME. AND WORKING CLASS
COMMUNITIES AND TO IMPROVE JOB
STANDARDS AND INCREASE THE
NUMBER AND AVAILABILITY OF GOOD
QUALITY UNION JOBS AND WE KNOW
FROM OUR DECADES OF WORK IT'S
OUR THIRTIETH ANNIVERSARY THIS
YEAR. THAT WE CAN ONLY ADDRESS
CLIMATE JUSTICE WHEN WE ADDRESS
ECONOMIC JUSTICE. WE HAVE WORKED
ON THESE ISSUES IN THE WASTE
WATER ENERGY AND PORTS
INDUSTRIES AND HAVE SEEN HOW
CRUCIAL IT IS THE EQUITY B. X.
CENTRAL PART OF THE ANALYSIS SO
THAT IT CAN BE INTEGRATED INTO
THE POLICY CHANGES THAT WE NEED
TO MAKE. FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE
SEEN HOW IN LA MANY SOLAR ANY BE
INCENTIVES AND REBATES HAVE
OVERWHELMINGLY GONE TO AFFLUENT
HOMEOWNERS WHICH MEANS THAT
HUGE. ARTS OF LOS ANGELES ARE
NOT ABLE TO ACCESS OR SHIFT TO
THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES OR SOLAR
ENERGY SUPPLIES THAT WE NEED TO
ALL BE ABLE TO DO AS A REGION.
WE'VE SEEN THIS COUNTERED WITH
POLICY DESIGN. SUCH AS AN LED TO
BE P. SUCCESSFUL DIRECT ENERGY
AND EFFICIENCY INSTALLATION
PROGRAM THAT ALSO CREATES UNION
APPRENTICESHIP PATHWAYS. WE'VE
SEEN AND ARE CLEAN TRUCK
POLICIES IN LOS ANGELES BUT WHEN
THESE POLICIES HAVE SHIFTED THE
COST OF CLEAN TRUCKS ON TO
MISCLASSIFIED DRIVERS. THEY
CAN'T AFFORD TO MAINTAIN THOSE
VEHICLES AND THE AIR BUT QUALITY
BENEFITS ARE LOST AND IT WAS
WORKERS ARE SADDLED WITH
CRIPPLING. ECONOMIC PRESSURES.
THAT ARE UNFAIR AND UN INTENDED
CONSEQUENCES THOSE. POLICIES
THESE. POLICIES CAN ONLY BE
DESIGNED BETTER IF WE HAVE THE
ANALYSIS THAT WE NEED- TO ASSESS
WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND THE
TRANSITION TO CLEAN ENERGY
TRANSPORTATION WATER WE MUST DO
SO IN A WAY THAT LIMITS THESE
NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE FRONT
LINE COMMUNITIES AND WORKERS WHO
ARE. BEARING THE BURDEN OF
CLIMATE CHANGE AND ON THE FRONT
LINES OF IMPLEMENTING THIS WORK
THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND WE CAN
DO THAT- WHEN WE HAVE THE
ANALYSIS THAT WE NEED TO BETTER
DESIGN THOSE POLICIES AND SO WE-
URGE A YES VOTE. ON THIS AND
APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP OF
SENATOR ALSO AGAIN ON THIS ISSUE
AND SO MANY OTHERS THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO
AHEAD AND HEAR FROM OTHER FOLKS
WANT TO WEIGH IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL SB FOUR FIFTEEN ANYONE ELSE
WANTS TO. ON AMERICAN EXPRESS
THEIR SUPPORT. NOW OKAY.
OPPOSITION CONCERNS. YES SIR.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR ALLEN ABS
WITH THE BAY AREA AIR QUALITY
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WE HAVE A-
CURRENTLY AN OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED POSITION AND THE
AMENDMENTS WE'D LIKE TO SEE IS-
BASICALLY TO REMOVE AIR
DISTRICTS- FROM- FROM THIS BILL.
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS
BECAUSE IT AS AS YOU'RE AWARE
AIR DISTRICTS ARE COMPRISED HAVE
A BOARD OF DIRECTORS. AND THOSE
BORDER DIRECTORS ARE COMPRISED
OF ELECTED TO COUNTY AND LOCAL
OFFICIALS SO CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS MAYORS AND COUNTY
SUPERVISORS. IN SO WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE SOCIO ECONOMIC IMPACT
ANALYSIS THAT THE SENATORS
TALKING ABOUT WE'VE HAD A- IS
HISTORICAL REQUIREMENT OVER THE
LAST TWENTY OR THIRTY YEARS
THAT'S THAT'S LISTED IN STATUTE
OF HOW WE DO THESE- ECONOMIC
ANALYSES WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. THE
EFFECTS ON INDUSTRY THE EFFECTS
ON THE- THE AFFECTED BUSINESS
SECTORS THE EFFECTS ON THE
REGIONAL ECONOMY AND THEN- YOU
KNOW LOOKING UP BELOW THE
REGIONAL ECONOMY TO- YOU KNOW
AFFECTED- LOCAL ECONOMIES BASED
ON THE RULES THAT WE DEVELOP.
AND SO I THINK THE OUR ELECTED
OFFICIALS REALLY AREN'T TUNED IN
TO WHAT THEIR CONSTITUENTS- YOU
KNOW FEEL ABOUT EXISTING RULES
AND WE'VE- INCLUDED THAT IS PART
OF OUR SOCIO ECONOMIC IMPACT
ANALYSIS. FOR THE SENATOR IN
THE- WITNESSES TALK A LOT ABOUT
THE CARBS SCOPING PLAN AND-
CARPER STATE LEVEL INCENTIVES
BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING
ABOUT SPECIFIC AIR DISTRICT
RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT
REALLY REQUIRED THIS- THIS BROAD
CHANGE IN HOW WE DO SOCIO
ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSES AND SO.
FOR THAT REASON IT WOULD BE- IN
IN MY EYES IN MY MIND IT WOULD
BE GOOD TO REMOVE AIR DISTRICTS
FROM THIS REALLY TAKES MORE TIME
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS IF
THERE IS ANY EXAMPLES OF WHAT
AIR DISTRICTS HAVE DONE WRONG-
IN TERMS OF THEIR- RULEMAKING-
RELATED TO CRITERIA POLLUTANTS.
AND THEN COME BACK AT A LATER
DATE- AND UP NO POTENTIALLY.
NEXT YEAR WITH A DIFFERENT BILL
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OTHER
FOLKS WHO INTEREST. OR
OPPOSITION THE BILL. OUR THROUGH
THE PHONE LINES AS BEFORE.
FIFTEEN THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR.
BUT THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL PLEASE PRESS ONE TO ENTER
AT THIS TIME. RESPONDENTS ARE
ONLY ONE TIME AS PRESIDENT A
SECOND TIME WAS OVER. FROM THE
QUEUE. M. S. CHAIR NO ONE
SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK
OKAY. I WILL BRING THE MEASURE
BACK TO THE MEMBERS FOR
DISCUSSION COMMENTS- SENTIMENTS
ARE. PICTURE A SENATOR ALSO TO
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP WE REPRESENT AREAS
THAT ARE SIMILAR IN AND THEN WE
HAVE A LOT OF THE TWINS THAT ARE
MAKING UNDER THE HUNDRED
THOUSAND- INCOME AND IN MY
DISTRICT. THERE'S BEEN DECADES A
DECADES OF ENTITIES THAT WERE
PLACED THERE THE NOW MY
COMMUNITIES REALLY FEELING THE
IMPACT OF AND I WAS TAKEN ABACK
WHEN I READ- THE ANALYSIS I HAD
NO IDEA THAT THAT WAS NOT BEING
INCORPORATED WHEN WE DO AN
ANALYSIS MOVING FORWARDS WHEN
THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE WOULD
LOVE THAT TO MOVE THIS. MOTION.
TO MOVE BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. ALL RIGHT
OF THE QUESTION YEAH YES SIR
SENATOR. SURGERY FIKE ME ASK- OF
I'VE BEEN VERY FOCUSED-
OBVIOUSLY. IT COME LEVELS IN
DISADVANTAGED IN. WHICH HEARD IN
THE BILL BEFORE SEN THE CHAIR
TALK ABOUT. THOSE ON THE CO TO
GET HAVE A BREAK BECAUSE OF TO
PREVAIL WINDS IN AND REAL TO
DISOBEY WE TALK ABOUT SAN
JOAQUIN WHICH IS AN AREA THAT
I'M BUT NO ON THE EAST COAST-
EASE BECAUSE- OF A BREAK. OKAY
THE PREVAILING WELL. IN PLACES
IN. THERE ARE. TO WHERE YOU LIVE
AND THEIR PLACE IN CALIFORNIA
WHERE THERE ARE DISADVANTAGES
BECAUSE OF. THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE
STATE. SO IF YOU'RE IN SAN
FRANCISCO. HE WE DON'T HAVE
SOMEBODY POLLUTING OUT THE OCEAN
THAT'S- CAUSING YOU READY ABOUT
IF YOU'RE PUTTING ITS EMPHASIS
CODE ENDS UP IN SAN JOAQUIN. FOR
THOSE DISADVANTAGED FOLKS SMOKE
MOSTLY LIVE MOSTLY WEALTHY
PEOPLE OF EXAMS AS BECAUSE
THAT'S MY POINT. BUT NONPOINT
SOURCE POLLUTION WHICH IS
POLLUTION IT IS CREATED BY.
TRANSPORTATION BY FIRES WHEN YOU
HAVE A FIRE SOMEWHERE AND IT
BLOWS INTO THE DISTRICTS SO. CAN
YOU CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA OF
HOW THIS IS A STATE WIDE BILL
AIR DISTRICTS TRY TO LOOK AT.
POINT SOURCE AND NONPOINT SOURCE
POLLUTION COOK CAN YOU TELL ME
HOW THIS BILL WOULD BE LOOKED
AT- COULD SOME OF THOSE BASINS.
CAN NEVER GIVE ME IF YOU TOOK
ALL THE PEOPLE OUT HOLD IT OUT
OF THE BASIN SAY SAN JOAQUIN
YOUR AIR QUALITY STILL GOING TO
BE BAD IF YOU DON'T DO WORK IN
THIS. CHAMBER CISCO OR SOMEWHERE
UPSTREAM OF THE WIND SO CAN YOU
KIND OF TELL ME WHAT HOW THAT
WOULD LOOK BECAUSE THIS IS GOING
TO BE A STATEWIDE BILL THAT'S
GOING TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO
CONSIDERATION. WELL THEY'RE
PROBABLY A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
WAYS OF ADDRESSING- YOUR
QUESTION BUT FOR ME. THE THAT
WHAT HAS BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE
INFORMATION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE
AS LEGISLATORS IS THE IMPACT ON
THESE FAMILIES WHICH EARN UNDER
A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN FROM LAST
YEAR'S BILL TO THIS YEAR'S BILL-
IN A NUMBER OF WAYS WE HAD A
LONG LIST OF IMPACT- EQUITY
IMPACT ON- ISSUES OF ETHNICITY
AND RACE AND GENDER. SO WE
REALLY WANTED TO NARROW IT DOWN
IT'S THESE FAMILIES THAT ARE
HEARD AND OR DON'T GET THE
BENEFITS OF A LOT OF THE RULES
AND REGULATIONS SO. I'M REALLY
FOCUSED ON THAT AND I THINK THAT
DEALS WITH. ACROSS THE BOARD
ACROSS CALIFORNIA IT'S NOT. YOU
KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE IT'S WHERE
DO YOU LIVE I SWEAR TO YOU. HOW
MUCH DO YOU MAKE AND THE IMPACT
ON THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY. SO
I AGREE THAT THAT THAT IF YOU
ARE. YOU'VE PICKED A NUMBER OF A
HUNDRED THOUSAND SO THE NUMBER
OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND. OR LESS.
AND WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE THAT
DEBATE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT
CAN'T AFFORD THE ELECTRIC CAR.
OR CAN'T AFFORD THE BENEFITS OF
. REMODELING THEIR HOME TO MAKE
IT MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT AND
MORE SAFE SO HOW IS THIS HOUSE
IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT THAT'S
WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
THIS IS A- A. R. B. REGULATION
THAT WILL BE STATEWIDE TO.
ANALYZE IT BUT HOUSING CAN
ACTUALLY CHANGE IT FOR THAT
PERSON WHO IS. WHO'S MAKING LESS
THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN SAN
JOAQUIN WELL I'M HOPING IT'LL
CHANGE IT BECAUSE WE AS
LEGISLATORS AND POLICY MAKERS
WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT
OUR DISPOSAL. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T
HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT'S
SPECIFIC TO POOR AND WORKING
CLASS FAMILIES WE JUST DON'T
HAVE IT SO BY HAVING THAT
INFORMATION BY BEING ABLE TO ASK
THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. AND GET
ANSWERS THEN WE HAVE THE
INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO
PROMOTE AND SUPPORT THE POLICIES
THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDING THOSE
POOR AND WORKING CLASS FAMILIES.
RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT
INFORMATION. WE JUST DON'T HAVE
IT SPECIFIC TO THOSE FAMILIES
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL DO SO
THEN YOU AND I AND OTHERS. WILL
BE ABLE TO POINT TO THIS AND SAY
WAIT A MINUTE THIS RULE OR THIS
REGULATION. IS NOT ADDRESSING
THESE NEEDS RIGHT HERE FOR THESE
KINDS OF FAMILIES BECAUSE NOT
ADDRESSING THAT SO WE WANT TO
FIX IT OR WE WANT AMENDED. WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VOICE
OF THOSE. WORKING PEOPLE IS
INFORMATION THAT WE GET AS
POLICY MAKERS AND THE PUBLIC
HOUSE AS WELL. ANYBODY IN THE
COMMUNITY WILL BE ABLE TO SAY
THIS RULE IS GONNA HAVE AN
IMPACT ON ME IN THIS WAY. I WILL
SPEAK UP AND I WILL ASK MY
POLICY MAKER IN MY LEGISLATOR TO
SPEAK UP AS WELL. K. ONE JUST
ONE MUST CLARIFY BECAUSE I'M
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A- THIS IS
WHERE I READ THIS BILL IT'S
SAYING THAT THEY CALIFORNIA
RESORT PROCEDURE THAT RIGHT NOW
THERE DISTRICTS. CANNOT CHANGE A
RULE WITHOUT TAKING THAT INTO
CONSIDERATION. YEAH I'M A LITTLE
MORE SPECIFIC RIGHT NOW IT'S
MUCH IT'S MUCH BROADER. MY BILL
IS ABOUT BEING SPECIFIC TO THE
IMPACT ON FAMILIES THAT EARN
UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
. THANK YOU. OKAY- TINO MORE
QUESTIONS THANK YOU CENTER FOR
BRING THE BILL FOR IT. I'VE WHEN
WE HAVE A QUORUM WILL. WE WILL
WE WILL. TAKE A VOTE AND I. SEE
WILL ENTERTAIN CENTER MENTORS.
MOSTLY HIS MERE AYE VOTE THANK
YOU VERY MUCH MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS THANK YOU EXCELLENT
OKAY. I SAW SENATE BECKER BUT
THEN HE SKIPPED OUT OTHER AREAS
OKAY PERFECT SENATE RECORD
COMING UP ITEM TO IN YOUR GENDER
IS THIS IS SB THREE OH EIGHT.
CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL
DEVELOPMENT ACCESS. SOME AWFUL.
BEFORE YOU START ONE OF THAT WAS
ACQUIRED. THIS IS FOR YOUR OWN
GOOD. HIGHLAND DR PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL SAID ALAN HERE HERE.
DOLLY SALLY HERE COMES. LIMÓN
MENJIVAR MENJIVAR HERE WHEN HERE
SKINNER YEP THE GENT FOR POPPING
IN WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU. OKAY
HOME LET'S GO FOR. YOU MAY
PROCEED WHEN RAY. THANK YOU. FOR
THE YEAR WE PAY IT. WITH THE
GOAL GETTING UNITS YOUR BY TWO
FOUR FIVE WHICH IS A BIG. A AT
THIS BILL SB THREE AWAIT WILL
MAKE SURE WE ACTUALLY GET THERE
. WATCHERS BILL SO THE TARGET
REDUCE EMISSIONS BY AT LEAST 85%
BY TWENTY FORTY FIVE. THAT MEANS
OR WHAT ABOUT 15% OF NINETEEN
NINETY MISSIONS REMAINING WHICH
MEANS ABOUT SIXTY FIVE MILLION
METRIC TONS A YEAR. SO WE NEED
TO BALANCE THOSE REMAINING SIX
EMISSIONS WITH SIXTY FIVE
MILLION TONS OF CARBON REMOVAL
IN ORDER TO BE NET ZERO THAT'S
JUST THE DEFINITION OF NET ZERO.
AND TODAY CALIFORNIA'S NO PLAN
FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP
THAT MUCH CARBON REMOVAL
CAPACITY IN TIME THIS BILL
CREATES A PLAN THAT WE NEED. OF
COURSE MOST OF OUR ATTENTION
ENERGY FUNDING SHOULD BE GOING
TOWARD REDUCING EMISSIONS MOST
READ LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS HAVE
BEEN ON HOW WE INCREASE CLEAN
ENERGY REDUCE RELIANCE ON FOSSIL
FUELS IN OUR STATE BUDGET ALSO
REFLECTS THOSE PRIORITIES. BUT
THAT WON'T BE ENOUGH TO GET TO
NEXT YEAR WITH OUR CAR MOVIL TO.
AND THE NEED FOR CARBON REMOVAL
SHOULDN'T BE CONTROVERSIAL DO
YOU AN IPCC HAS BEEN TELLING US
THAT IS ESSENTIAL FOR ANY ONE
POINT 5 DEGREES PATHWAY. THE BY
THE MINISTRATION STRONGLY
SUPPORTING THESE EFFORTS WITH
FUNDING AND INFLATION REDUCTION
ACT AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE
BUILT. OUT THE PART OF ENERGY IS
CARBON NEGATIVE SHOT PROGRAM.
AIMED AT DRIVING DOWN THE COSTS
OF CARBON REMOVAL BELOW A
HUNDRED DOLLARS A TONNE WITHIN A
DECADE. CARP HAS IDENTIFIED THE
NEED FOR LARGE AMOUNTS OF CARBON
REMOVAL IN THE SCOPING PLAN. AND
GOVERNOR SEEMS ALSO SAID HE
SUPPORTS THE NEED FOR IT.
BASICALLY ANYONE WHO SERIOUSLY
MODEL OF WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO
ACHIEVE NET ZERO. AND KEEP
TEMPERATURE. INCREASES UNDER ONE
POINT FIVE DEGREES THEY ALL
AGREE WE'RE GONNA NEED LARGE
AMOUNTS OF CARBON REMOVAL. EVEN
UNDER THE MOST AMBITIOUS
SCENARIOS FOR REDUCING DIRECT
EMISSIONS. DOES MENTION. MANY
PEOPLE THAT'S JUST IT'S AND
THAT'S YOUR CALIFORNIA WE'RE
LOOKING- WE HAVE TO REMOVE MANY
PEOPLE BELIEVE TRILLIONS OF.
TONS OF CARBON FROM THE
ATMOSPHERE TO AVOID THE WORST
IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. AND
WE NEED TO COURAGE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES. TO THIS BILL
CREATES A PLAN FOR THAT CAR MOVE
ALL THAT ANSWERS FOR IMPORTANT
QUESTIONS. FIRST HOW DO WE MAKE
SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING CARBON
REMOVAL THAT REALLY DOES BALANCE
OUT. THESE EMISSIONS. THIS BILL
REQUIRES CARP TO ESTABLISH RULES
FOR WHAT CAN QUALIFY AND HOW IT
SHOULD BE COUNTED. THIS BILL
INCLUDES IMPORTANT PRINCIPLES
SUCH AS REQUIRING THE CARBON
MOVIL IS DURABLE. IN OTHER WORDS
KEEPING THE CARBON DIOXIDE OUT
OF THE ATMOSPHERE FOR HUNDREDS
OF YEARS. ONLY THE NET AMOUNT OF
CARBON THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED IS
COUNTED. AFTER TAKING ACCOUNT
ANY MISSIONS THAT MAY HAVE
CAUSED BEEN CAUSED BY CARBON
MOVIL PROCESS ITSELF. THESE
PRINCIPLES ARE CRITICAL MAKE
SURE WE GET SCIENTIFICALLY VALID
CARD REMOVAL. BUT NOT THE KIND
OF QUESTION- CARBON OFFSETS THAT
ARE FREQUENTLY USED FOR
GREENWASHING TODAY. SECOND HOW
DO WE MAKE SURE THE ALL THIS
CARBON REMOVAL HAS CO BENEFITS
FOR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES IN
OUR WORK FORCE. AND DOESN'T
RESULT IN BAD SIDE EFFECTS SUCH
AS INCREASED POLLUTION OR SAFETY
CONCERNS. THOSE ARE VALID
CONCERNS IN THIS BILL ADDRESSES
THIS. BY DIRECTING CARP TO
CONSIDER THE COSTS AND BENEFITS
A PROPOSED CARBON MOBILE
PATHWAYS. B. ON THE VALUE OF
CARBON REMOVAL ITSELF. AND
THAT'S CARD DECLINED TO CERTIFY
PROCESSES WITH SIGNIFICANT
CONCERNS. THIS SHOULD ENCOURAGE
CARBON WILL PROVIDERS TO WORK
WITH NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES
RIGHT LOCAL BENEFITS AND AVOID
HARM'S- ALSO PROHIBITS COUNTY
CARPER MOVIL. THAT IS LINKED. TO
ENHANCE THEIR RECOVERY
CONSISTENT WITH BILLS LAST YEAR.
TO ENSURE THE CALIFORNIA RETAINS
A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE
BENEFITS OF INVESTING CARBON
REMOVAL. THE BILL REQUIRES AT
LEAST 50% OF CARBON WILL EACH
YEAR MUST COME FROM PROJECTS
THAT PROVIDE DIRECT BENEFITS TO
THE STATE. THIRD WHO SHOULD PAY
FOR CARBON REMOVAL WE NEED TO
OFFSET BY ONGOING GHG EMISSIONS.
THE BILL REQUIRES THOSE WHO ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ONGOING
POLLUTION TO PAY FOR CLEANING UP
A PORTION OF THEIR MISSIONS EACH
YEAR BY PURCHASING CARBON
REMOVAL. IT STARTS AT A VERY
SMALL AMOUNT AND RAMPS UP OVER
TIME. SIMILAR TO OUR OUR PS AS A
MENTION A MOMENT. SOME OTHER
STATES HAVE LOOKED AT USING
TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO BUY CARBON
REMOVAL. BUT WE THINK THAT A
POLLUTER PAYS MODEL MAKES FAR
MORE SENSE. FOURTH HOW DO WE
SCALE UP OUR CARBON CAPACITY
OVER TIME AND TO GET THE COST
DOWN. THIS IS REALLY THE
FUNDAMENTAL PART OF THIS BILL
THIS BILL TAKES AN APPROACH VERY
SIMILAR TO OUR SUCCESSFUL
RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD.
WHICH REQUIRED UTILITIES TO
START BUYING SMALL AMOUNTS OF
RENEWABLE ENERGY BACK WHEN THE
TECHNOLOGY IS IMMATURE AND
EXPENSIVE. AND THEN SCALED UP
THAT AMOUNT PURCHASED EACH YEAR.
THAT APPROACH LED 290% DROP IN
THE COST OF SOLAR OVER DECADE.
AN ENORMOUS INCREASE IN SOLAR
GENERATION NOT JUST HERE IN
CALIFORNIA BUT AROUND THE WORLD.
THIS BILL SIMPLY REQUIRES METERS
TO PURCHASE CARBON REMOVAL EQUAL
TO A VERY SMALL PERCENT OUR
MISSIONS AT FIRST. JUST 1% IN
TWENTY THIRTY. AND THEN SCALING
THAT UP OVER TIME. UNTIL THEY
HAVE TO OFFSET HUNTRESS
INTERMISSIONS IN TWENTY FORTY
FIVE WHICH IS THE DEFINITION OF
THAT ZERO. OF COURSE EMITTERS TO
REDUCE EMISSIONS AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE WHAT TO PURCHASE LESS
CARBON REMOVAL. TO CREATE A GOOD
INCENTIVE PERMISSIONS REDUCTIONS
WHILE STILL LEAVING COMPANIES
FLEXIBILITY TO FIND THE MOST
COST EFFECTIVE TRADE OFF FOR
THEMSELVES. AND THIS WAY CAN WE
CREATE THAT LONG TRADITIONAL
MARKET THAT INVESTORS NEED THEY
WANT TO SEE THAT'S A LONG TERM
PERSONAL MARKET. AND THAT'S HOW
WE'RE GOING TO BRING DOWN THE
COST OF CARBON REMOVAL OVER TIME
. COUPLE LAST POINTS SOME PEOPLE
SUGGESTED THIS APPROACH IS
RETURNED WITH CAP AND TRADE. IT
IS NOT. CAP AND TRADE LIMITS THE
TOTAL AMOUNT OF EMISSIONS ACROSS
THE STATE. USING THE MARKET TO
ALLOCATE THE LIMITED NUMBER OF
RIGHTS TO POLLUTE. THIS BILL
WILL THEN ALSO REQUIRE THOSE
POLLUTERS TO CLEAN UP A PORTION
OF THEIR POLLUTION. SO THESE ARE
SEPARATE AND COMPLEMENTARY IDEAS
NOT REDUNDANT. AND- CAR MOVE WAS
RELATIVELY NEW TOPIC FOR THIS
LEGISLATURE BUT IT'S AN
IMPORTANT ONE. WE NEED TO
CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON EMISSIONS
REDUCTIONS BUT THAT WON'T BE
ENOUGH WE ALSO NEED CARBON
REMOVAL. AND WE CANCEL A GETTING
STARTED BECAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE
A LONG TIME TO SCALE UP AND
REDUCE COSTS. JUST LIKE WE SEE
WITH RENEWABLE ENERGY. THIS BILL
WILL PUT A PANT PLAN TO PLAY PAY
SECURE PLACE TO GET STARTED. BUT
WITH US WE'VE DR COREY MYERS AND
WE SURE SCIENTISTS FROM LAWRENCE
LIVERMORE. NATIONAL LABS TO PRY
TESTIMONY. HI THERE. FIVE IF
YOU'RE CHAIRMAN BY SHARE MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS
COREY MYERS I'M ENGINEER
LAWRENCE LIVERMORE NATIONAL
LABORATORY. I HAVE A DECADES
WORTH OF EXPERIENCE IN
INDUSTRIAL DECARBONISATION AND
CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL
TECHNOLOGY DEVELOPMENT. AT
LAWRENCE LIVERMORE NATIONAL LAB
WE DON'T HAVE ANY STAKE IN
CLIMATE MITIGATION BEYOND TRYING
TO SOLVE HARD PROBLEMS AND
PROVIDE YOU. WITH A
SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE SOUND
INFORMATION. SO HERE IT IS. WE
NEED CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL. NOW
I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH YOU EACH
INDIVIDUALLY. ABOUT THE DETAILS
OF THAT CLIMATE MASS. BUT
FUTURES WITHOUT CARBON DIOXIDE
REMOVAL OR FUTURES WITH MORE
HUMAN SUFFERING. MORE
ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE AND HIGHER
ECONOMIC LOSSES. FULL STOP. NOW
TEN YEARS AGO WHEN I STARTED
DEVELOPING CARBON DIOXIDE
REMOVAL TECHNOLOGIES. THERE WERE
ONLY A HANDFUL OF ADMITTEDLY
VAGUE PROPOSALS. NOW THERE ARE
LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF OPTIONS
AVAILABLE AND UNDER DEVELOPMENT
. WITH A WIDE VARIETY OF
IMPLEMENTATIONS AND I'D LIKE TO
JUST GIVE YOU A TASTE OF WHAT'S
POSSIBLE IN CALIFORNIA. BUT
THERE ARE ROCKS ALL ACROSS THE
STATE. THAT REACT WITH CARBON
DIOXIDE IN THE AIR AND TURN IT
INTO A ROCK. OKAY SO THERE ARE
METHODS BEING DEVELOPED THAT
SPEED UP THAT REACTION. ANOTHER
FORM YOU CAN TAKE MUNICIPAL
WASTE AGRICULTURAL WASTE FORCE
FREEWAYS. CONVERT THEM INTO A
STABLE FORM OF CARBON WHILE ALSO
PRODUCING GREEN HYDROGEN. AND
REDUCING WILDFIRE RISK.
SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
YOU CAN TAKE THE WASTE BRINE
FROM DESALINATION. AND CONVERTED
COMPLETELY INTO PRODUCTS. SOME
OF WHICH STORE CARBON
PERMANENTLY. AND AT THE SAME
TIME DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF CLEAN
WATER THAT YOU GET OUT OF
EXISTING DESALINATION PLANTS.
AND THE LIST GOES ON. SO YOU CAN
SEE CALIFORNIA'S BLESSED WITH A
LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES HERE FOR
CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL BUT IT'S
ALSO BECOME THE HOT BED FOR
TECHNOLOGY DEVELOPMENT. AND WE
BELIEVE. THAT WITH THE
PARAMETERS SET FORTH BY SB NINE
OH FIVE LAST YEAR. CARBON
DIOXIDE REMOVAL CAN BE DONE IN A
SAFE AND RESPONSIBLE WAY.
HOWEVER TECHNICAL- FEASIBILITY
DOES NOT MEAN THE FINANCIAL
VIABILITY. NOW AS WE PICK
THROUGH THE LOW HANGING FRUITS
OF DECARBONISATION WE HIT
SECTORS WE HAD TECHNOLOGIES
WHERE. YOU KNOW ELECTRIFICATION
AND EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENT JUST
ARE GOING TO CUT IT. WHAT CARBON
DIOXIDE REMOVAL CAN PROVIDE YOU
IT'S A COST CEILING YOU NEVER
HAVE TO PAY MORE THAN THIS TO
DECARBONISE YOUR COMPANY. THE
MORE QUICKLY WE SCALE UP CARBON
DIOXIDE REMOVAL THE LOWER THAT
COST CEILING BECOMES. NOW IF YOU
CAN DECARBONISE YOUR COMPANY
CHEAPER THAN THAT COST CEILING.
YOU DON'T NEED TO PAY A DIME FOR
CARBON DIOXIDE ROOMS. RIGHT WE
DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF ECONOMIC
ANALYSIS FOR EMERGING
TECHNOLOGIES AT LAWRENCE
LIVERMORE NATIONAL LABORATORY
AND WHAT STANDS OUT HERE. IS
FINANCING I TALKED ABOUT ALL
THESE HUNDREDS OF OPTIONS THAT
ARE AVAILABLE THERE THERE BUT
LET ME TELL YOU THOSE COMPANIES
HAVE PROBLEMS GETTING FINANCING
BECAUSE THERE IS NO REGULATED
MARKET THAT THEY CAN POINT TO.
SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT REDUCES
THE OPTIONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE
REMOVAL TO DOES ARE BEING
PROPOSED BY LARGE COMPANIES THAT
CAN GET CHEAP FINANCING. IF YOU
WANT CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL TO
COMPETE ON THE MERITS ITS
TECHNOLOGICAL MERITS IT'S CALLED
BENEFITS WHAT LOCAL COMMUNITIES
ONE. THEN YOU REALLY NEED TO
ESTABLISH A CLEAR MARKET POOL.
AS THIS BILL CONTEMPLATES. I'M
VERY ENCOURAGED TO SEE THE DEPTH
OF RECENT CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL
ACTIVITY IN THE LEGISLATURE.
AVAILABLE ANY TIME FOR ANY
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH ALL RIGHT.
OTHER FOLKS WANTED TO ME TO.
WEIGH IN IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR MARTIN WITH US
WHICH ON BEHALF OF HEIRLOOM
CARBON TECHNOLOGIES IN SUPPORT
WE LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE.
THAT'S A FOR CARBON CAPTURE.
COMPANIES THAT DIRECTOR CAPTURE
GUEST. OKAY NOT. OKAY YES GOOD
MORNING WILL BE HER ON BEHALF OF
CLIMATE ACTION CAL. AND FIFTY
SACRAMENTO WE SUPPORT THE BILL
AND THANK THE SENATOR THIS IS
OUR TOP PRIORITY. GREAT THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT OPPOSITION
ANYONE'S RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT
THE BILL. GOOD MORNING AND
MEMBERS OF THE WE ARE DJ IN THE
FARM BUREAU IN THE CHAMBER
ALTOGETHER IT'S VERY EXCITING
IT'S A RARE COMBINATION FRAZIER
BUT WHEN WE ALL GET ON ONE SIDE
IS SOMETHING YOU GOT TO KNOW
SOMETHING MIGHT BE GOING ON- MY
NAME IS KATIE BALANCE WHILE I'M
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CENTRAL
VALLEY AIR QUALITY COALITION AND
A HANDFUL OF OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE ENVIRONMENTAL.
ORGANIZATIONS REGRETTABLY IN
OPPOSITION TO IT THREE OH EIGHT
WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL OPPOSITION
TO MARKET MECHANISMS BECAUSE
EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THEY NOT
ONLY FAILED TO REDUCE EMISSIONS
THEY ACTUALLY INCREASED
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IMPACTS IN
OUR COMMUNITIES BUT WE ALSO HAVE
REALLY STRONG CONCERNS WITH THE
TECHNOLOGY IN GENERAL WHICH
REALLY CARRIES. MANY OF THE SAME
RISKS THAT CARBON CAPTURE DOES
WE DID WORK REALLY HARD DESPITE
THAT OPPOSITION TO PUT
PROTECTIONS IN PLACE THROUGH SB
NINE OH FIVE AND WE ARE ALREADY
FINDING OURSELVES DEFENDING
THOSE PROTECTIONS OF CARVER
STARTING THEIR RULE MAKING AND
PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH
OUR LIMITED CAPACITY WE'RE
SPENDING A LOT OF TIME SAYING
WHY ENHANCE MY RECOVERY
SHOULDN'T BE INCLUDED. AND THAT
WAS SOMETHING THAT LEGISLATORS
THAT VERY CLEARLY THIS YEAR SO I
WANT TO USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE
TO SAY THAT PROVIDING DIRECTION
LIKE THIS TO CARP IS A BLANK
CHECK TO INDUSTRY WILL CAUSE US
TO HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME
DEFENDING WHAT THE LEGISLATURE
SAYS AS WE ALWAYS DO. AND IT WAS
GOING TO END UP IN A SITUATION
WHERE WE'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY
HAVE. MANY MANY MORE. THAT
PROTECTIONS THE WELLINGTON
PROTECTIONS BILL. MAY NEVER
ACTUALLY MANIFEST AND NOT
SOMETHING THAT WERE ALREADY SEEN
WITH SB NINE OH FIVE. AND
REGRETTABLY ANTICIPATING. THAT
WE WOULD SEE IF THIS BILL PASSES
TODAY. I THIS BILLS. EQUITABLE
IT WILL. ENVIRONMENTAL AND CALL.
AND FUN. IT'S GOING TO DRIVE
INVESTMENT IN AN UNPROVEN
TECHNOLOGY FURTHER DELAY IN THE
INVESTMENT WE WANT AND THE
THINGS THAT WE KNOW WILL WORK.
I'M SO WE'VE OFFERED TO THE
SENATOR BACK IN JANUARY TO WORK
WITH HIS OFFICE WE APPRECIATE
HIS INTENTION WITH THIS BILL. TO
TRY TO FIND SOMETHING THAT
WOULDN'T. FURTHER DELAY THE
REDUCTIONS IN THE BENEFITS FOR
YOU TAKE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'VE
BEEN WAITING OVER SEVENTEEN
YEARS FOR. SINCE THE PASSAGE OF
AB THIRTY TWO. AND NOT OFFER
CONTINUES TO STAND. BUT
UNFORTUNATELY THAT AS THOSE
DISCUSSIONS HAVE NOT BEEN
HAPPENING WE'VE ASKED THE
COMMITTEE TO PLEASE NOT POSSIBLE
FOR TODAY. SO THAT WE CAN
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
SENATOR'S OFFICE. TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO DO THIS IN A MORE
EQUITABLE MANNER. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS BRAVE IN ENGLAND
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
DOT RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE
PROPITIATE THE- THE WORK THE
AUTHOR. PUT IT THIS BILL IN AND
OUT REACH EFFORTS HE'S MADE-
THANK YOU WE DO SEE CITY ARE HAS
A PROMISING- TECHNOLOGY TO
RETIRE SHARED. CARBON NEUTRALITY
GOALS. HOWEVER THIS BILL
INCLUDES. A LAYERING OF THE
COMPLIANCE OBLIGATION ON TOP OF
EXISTING COMPLIANCE OBLIGATIONS
WHICH WE FIND TO BE A BIT
PROBLEMATIC- WE SIMPLY THINK
THAT. IF THIS WERE INCORPORATED
INTO CAP AND TRADE YOU KNOW IT
ASSIGNING A MULTIPLIER TO TAKE
ACCOUNT FOR THE VALUE OF THE
CITY ARE- THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE
A MUCH. MUCH MORE FEASIBLE
SOLUTION SELF. RESPECT THANK YOU
. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING MISTER
CHAIR MEMBERS VERGE WELL TO THE
CALIFORNIA CARBON SOLUTIONS
COALITION WERE A LABOR BUSINESS
ORGANIZATION COMMITTED TO
ENSURING THAT C. C. U. S.
TECHNOLOGIES ARE PART. OF
CALIFORNIA'S EFFORTS TO ACHIEVE
OUR GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION
GOALS INCLUDING CLIMATE
NEUTRALITY IN TWENTY FORTY FIVE
I DID ONE THE STATE WE ARE VERY
SUPPORTIVE OF CVR AND- FULLY
AGREE WITH MUCH OF WHAT THE
GENTLEMAN. WHO SPOKE IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL NOTED WITH RESPECT
TO THE ROLE THAT CD ARE IS GOING
TO NEED TO PLAY AN CALIFORNIA'S
EFFORT. THAT IS CLEAR. EXPERT TO
MAKE THAT CLEAR THE SCOPING PLAN
IS MADE THAT CLEAR WEEKS WE
BELIEVE CD ARE HAS TO BE PART OF
THE EQUATION IN ADDITION TO. C.
C. U. S. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
THE FOCUS BE ON DEVELOPMENT OF
THE PROTOCOLS AND THE CEILING OF
THE PROJECTS. TO ENSURE THAT WE
CAN ACTUALLY START TO
INCORPORATE THOSE TECHNOLOGIES
INTO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO
REDUCE TO REDUCE EMISSIONS IN
CALIFORNIA. RATHER THAN PUTTING
YET ONE MORE. FRANKLY
FLEXIBILITY REDUCING MANDATE ON
ENTITIES WHO ARE ALREADY
ACTIVELY WORKING TO INVEST IN
THESE TECHNOLOGIES WHETHER THEY
BE CD R. OR C. C. U. S. SO FOR
THAT REASON WE ARE OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED AND AS I STATED WE LIKE
TO SEE THE FOCUS REALLY BE ON
THE DEPLOYMENT OF THESE
TECHNOLOGIES. THANK YOU. MORNING
MISTER CHAIR SACKLER- WITH
WESTERN STATES PETROLEUM
ASSOCIATION OR POST THANKS THANK
YOU. FORAGER MEMBERS DEAN TALLY
WITH CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS
AND TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED. THANK YOU
. KATIE LITTLE WITH THE
CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU WAS
STRICTLY OPPOSED. THANK YOU SO
MUCH- OKAY- PHONE LINES BECAUSE
THE PHONE LINES FOCUS ON ON SB.
THREE OH EIGHT. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO
COMMENT ON THIS BILL IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE
AND ZERO AT THIS TIME. PRESS ONE
ENTER ONLY ONE TIME AS PRESSING
ONE AND ZERO SECOND TIME SO
REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE QUEUE.
THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNALED THAT
THEY WISH TO SPEAK ONE MOMENT
PLACE. HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO GO FIRST TO LINE
SEVENTY THREE POINT SEVENTY
THREE YOUR LINES NOW OPEN. HELLO
MY NAME IS MARGARET FERGUSON AND
I'M REPRESENTING INDIVISIBLE
YELLOW OUR CHAPTER IS ONE OF THE
MORE THAN EIGHTY GROUPS THAT
MAKES UP ST STE STATE STREET
LOW. INCOME AND WHICH- SUPPORT
OF SENATOR VECTORS BILL THREE OH
EIGHT CARP DIOXIDE THE MOVE
MARKET ELEMENT ACT. I THINK IT'S
A VERY GOOD ARCHER AND- WILL
LIVE IN AN ATTEMPT TO OF HOT
WHEN IT. IF WE DON'T WORK NOW WE
MY THE CARBON IN OUR. HI IT TO
BE BUILT FOR CARBON YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING US IN
OUR GROUP INSTEAD. FOR ONE FIVE
YEAR LINE IS OPEN. THAT WOULD
ONLY ADD TO IT. LINE TWELVE YOUR
IS NOW OPEN. HELLO MONEY IS CAR
DOWN AND I'M ABOUT. WITH OPENER
COLLECTIVE I STRONGLY SUPPORT
SPEED ZERO ACCORDING TO THE I.
C. C. IS BEEN NOTED WE MUST BEEN
REMOVING UNDER CO TWO. PER YEAR
BY FIFTH THE ONLY WAY TO THAT
HAVE IS TO EXPRESS SKI UP FOR
COOPER TO REMOVE LEGACY IN THIS
THAT WERE PUT IN THE ARE AND-
THE BEGINNING OF THE FALL ENERGY
ERA. SB THREE OH WOULD HAVE
POLLUTERS THIS HAS BEEN. I'D
LIKE THAT APPROACH AND YOU DON'T
OF THE FOR THAT WILL BE OUR
BASIC. I ALSO PRE THE WILL THAT
AFFECTS IN D. R. BRING BENEFITS
. THE STATE MAY BRING COMMUNITY
IT'S ALL ABOUT ON. PARTS THANK
YOU. WHY FORTY SEVEN YOUR LONG
IS NOW. THANK YOU NAME IS KEITH
HUGHES. AND I WORK AS THE COULD
BECAUSE WITH THE ORGANIZATION
FILE THE WATCH. AND ARE
ORGANIZATION IS OPPOSITE SB
THREE OH EIGHT WE THINK THIS
BILL IS A DANGEROUS THIS. AND
FROM SPECTER AND DANGEROUS
TECHNO. WE S. B. OH A- LINE
FIFTY YOUR LONG IS NOW. HI MY
NAME IS A CHRIS I DON'T- I AM
THE- COKE OF THE OPEN AIR A
GRASS NETWORK ANTI CD ARE AT THE
STATE AND NOW LEVEL OF THE- AND
WE- HAVE OVER SIX CITIZEN
ACTIVISTS IN CAL. I STRONGLY-
AND IT OH EIGHT I JUST WANT TO
EMPHASIZE A COUPLE OF POINTS.
THAT MUST BE BORNE IN IT AGAIN
CARBON IS NEXUS JUST AS PER THE
I. P. I'M SUCH SIR WHERE DOES
RESCUED TO JUST WIN THEIR SO-
AND THEY BEEN THERE BECAUSE- BUT
I WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT UNTESTED
. LATER. FOR TO THE NEXT CALLER
THINKING EIGHTEEN YOUR LONG IS
NOW OPEN. URBAN YEAH MY NAME
STEVE MURRAY I. WE DIDN'T YOUR
IN STRONG AND ALSO MY OF THE
OCEAN PORTAL ALL. I'M SUPPORTERS
BETWEEN IT THANK FOR. FIVE FORTY
FOUR YOUR LONG IS NOW.
I WAS ACTUALLY COMMITTEE. AND OF
TO SEND OUT HAD SOME WELL I JUST
AS YOU ENTER THIS IS AWESOME I
LOVE TO SEE THE YOU KNOW
DIFFERENT PEOPLE COME TOGETHER
ON DIFFERENT ISSUES BUT BUT THE
END OF THE DAY. IT'S ABOUT.
CARBON CAPTURE- ARE AND WILL AND
THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE'RE
GONNA USE AND YOU KNOW MY
QUESTION IS DEFICIENCIES OF IT
IS A DIRECT. CARBON CAPTURE
VERSUS TRYING TO REDUCE CARBON
OUT OF A- REFINERY OR A OR A
SMOKESTACK OF SOME SORT SO- BUT
AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU KNOW
IN CALIFORNIA AS WE KNOW.
CARBON'S NOT ALL THE SAME. IF
YOU'RE A FOREST FIRE REDUCING
CARBON WE DON'T COUNT THAT. IF
YOU'RE A REFINERY RELEASING
CARBON WE COUNT THAT. BUT NOW
LAST YEAR WE SAW IN LEGISLATION
THAT WE CAN'T CAPTURE THAT
CARBON AND DIRECTLY INJECTED
BACK ON THE GROUND TO BE CARBON
NEUTRAL SO WHAT'S THE GOAL HERE
SO TO THE DAY ARE WE GOING TO
REALLY CAPTURE CARBON AT AN
EFFICIENT RATE AND ACTUALLY
ALLOW. THESE FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO
DO IT ARE WE JUST GOING TO PLAY
AROUND THE EDGES AND NOT TAKE
THIS TECHNOLOGY THAT'S AVAILABLE
TO US AND ACTUALLY USE IT. SO I
THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT
CLARIFICATION OF THIS BILLS THAT
. IT WE SET UP 285% DIRECT
EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS AND THEN
THE 15% CARBON REMOVAL IN THE
BILL THAT PASSED LAST YEAR. THE
CARBON CAPTURE IS WITH FROM
POINT FROM EMISSIONS IS PART OF
85% SO THAT IS CONSIDERED A
DIRECT EMISSIONS REDUCTION THIS
BILL DOESN'T TOUCH THAT AREA AT
ALL SO THAT WAS. UNDER OTHER
LEGISLATION. THAT'S GOING
FORWARD THIS BILL DOESN'T TOUCH
THAT THIS IS THE 15% OF CARBON
REMOVAL AND THESE ARE THE NEW
KINDS OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT. ARE
WITNESS TALKED ABOUT THAT OUR
PEOPLE ARE. USING TO ACTUALLY
SEQUESTER CARBON IN IN CEMEX NOW
GOING FORWARD RIGHT KIND OF
REVERSING THE PROCESS. OF MAKING
CEMENT THAT RELEASES EMISSIONS
ARE EXCUSING TO CAPTURE IT OTHER
PEOPLE ARE USING IT TO BE A
PROCESS AND TO BURY IT- SO.
AGAIN JUST JUST BE REALLY CLEAR
SAID THIS IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE
FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THAT'S
GOING FORWARD THAT'S DIRECT
EMISSIONS REDUCTION THIS IS
SAYING WE ALSO. NEED TO SCALE UP
CARBON REMOVAL THAT COULD BE
DIRECTOR CAPTURE RIGHT THAT JUST
REMOVES YOU KNOW DIRECTOR
CAPTURE YOU SEEN JUST JUST
REMOVING FROM ATMOSPHERE. IT
WORKS TODAY IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE
AND THERE'S HUNDREDS OF OTHER
TECHNOLOGIES NOW. THEY WORK SOME
OF THEM ARE STILL PRETTY
EXPENSIVE IN THIS IS TO CREATE A
LONG TERM PREDICTABLE MARKET-
UNLIKE WHAT WAS SAID IT'S NOT
MARKET MECHANISM LIKE CAP AND
TRADE IT JUST. THIS IS YOUR
SCRITTI MARKET DEMAND THIS AND
MUCH MORE NOW BECAUSE THE
RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD.
RETINAL PORTFOLIO STANDARDS SAID
REGIONALES HAVE TO PURCHASE A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RENEWABLES
AND- THAT WAS IMPROVING
TECHNOLOGY OR YOU KNOW CUT COST
TECHNOLOGY AND THE COST CAME
DOWN OVER TIME WHICH IS TRYING
TO DO THE. EXACT SAME THING AND
CARBON REMOVAL. OKAY. OKAY. I'D
LOVE TO I'D LOVE TO ASK YOU
SENATOR. YOU'VE HEARD A VARIETY
OF CONCERNS- FROM THE OPPOSITION
I'M OF COURSE VERY VERY
DIFFERENT IN NATURE OF COURSE
COULD YOU JUST GIVE SOME
THOUGHTS ON ON SOME OF THE
COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE I MEAN I
YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT WE CERTAINLY
BEEN OPEN THE YOU'D BE ENGAGING-
WITH. WITH WITH STAKEHOLDERS-
INCLUDING TO ENSURE THAT
PROTECTIONS FOR FRONTLINE
COMMUNITIES ARE. ARE EFFECTIVE
THE COMMUNITIES ARE MEANINGFULLY
ENGAGED- DO YOU KNOW FILES THERE
ARE ALSO SOME SOME SOME CONCERNS
ABOUT- HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE
FROM INDUSTRY I LOVE I LOVE JUST
HEAR YOUR- YOUR RESPONSE I
SUPPOSE TO SOME OF THE- TURNS
WERE RACIST NOW. SURE YEAH WHICH
START WITH US TAKING ORDER SHORT
COMMENTS FROM FRIENDS OF THE
FAMILY JUSTICE COMMUNITY. YOU
KNOW THERE'S A CONCERN WHICH I
GET- AND I GET THE PEEPERS
SKEPTICAL ABOUT CARBON YOU KNOW
BECAUSE OF SOME THINGS THAT
HAPPEN IN OUR EXISTING CAP AND
TRADE SYSTEM. AND SO I ACTUALLY
GET THAT AND THERE'S CONCERN
REYES SAID THAT THIS WOULD GIVE
A BLANK CHECK TO CARP- MY
RESPONSE. EXACTLY THE ARE. CARP
ALREADY HAS A BLANK CHECK COVER
READY DEFINES COVER MOVE ON THE
SCOPING PLAN CARBON YOU KNOW
CARP CAN ALREADY DO WHATEVER IT
WANTS NOW WITH CARBON REMOVAL. I
THINK THERE'S A VERY REAL
CONCERN WE COULD END UP WITH A-
A VERY WEAK CARBON MOVER WITH
WEEK OFFSETS- THAT ALLOWS US TO
GET TO KNOW ZERO BUT NOT REALLY
BECAUSE THOSE AREN'T REAL
OFFSETS THAT THAT'S NOT
ACTUALLY. CARBON THAT'S CAPTURED
AND STORED FOR HUNDREDS OF
YEARS. SO WHAT THIS BILL
ACTUALLY PUTS GUARDRAILS I'M
WHAT I'M WHAT CARP COULD YOU AND
I HOPE FOLKS WILL SEE IT THAT
WAY TO HOPE YOU KNOW WE CAN
CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
ABOUT THOSE GUARDRAILS AT ONE.
NUMBER TWO- I ALSO GET THERE'S
JUST A GENERAL CONCERN BOTH OF
CARBON CAPTURE. AND WITH THE
CARBON REMOVAL THAT SOMEHOW IT
JUST IS GONNA LET INDUSTRY KEEP
POLLUTING AND IT'S AN EXCUSE.
FOR INDUSTRY TO KEEP POLLUTING
A. N. I'M IN. TO GET MY
RESPONSES. I'M FOR FORD AS YOU
KNOW- THROUGHOUT YOUR ONE ON
EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO. DO TO
REDUCE EMISSIONS AND I'VE GOT
MANY BILLS ON THAT THE OF THOSE
THIS YEAR- BUT STILL PEOPLE GET
ANY REPUTABLE SCIENTISTS THEY
SAY WE ALSO NEED CARBON CAPTURE
AND WE ALSO NEED CARBON REMOVAL.
A ON- AS WE'VE HEARD HERE TODAY
SO THIS NOTION THAT THIS ISN'T
GONNA HELP SOMEHOW GOING TO
DELAY OR. DISTRACT FROM DIRECT
EMISSIONS FOR- YOU KNOW JUST
THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE OF
LEAD. EVERYTHING ELSE WE'RE
DOING THIS IS NOT GOING TO
DISTRACT AT ALL THIS IS A
COMPLETELY SEPARATE THING WE
ALSO NEED. AT THESE OTHER
THINGS- YOU KNOW CONCERNS ABOUT.
YOUR HARM TO COMMUNITIES AGAIN
COVERED HE HAS A BLANK CHECK
WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING IN A LOT
OF SAFEGUARDS FOR COMMUNITIES
AND- THOSE ARE THOSE
SPECIFICALLY ARE CONVERSATIONS
THAT I'VE I LOOK FORWARD TO.
CONTINUE WITH YOU FROM NOT
JUSTICE COMMUNITIES I THINK
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK WE CAN DO
TOGETHER THERE TO REALLY DEFINE
THOSE GUARDRAILS AND- AND- AND
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING. YOU
KNOW WHATEVER WE CAN TO MAKE
SURE IT'S NOT HARMFUL TO.
COMMUNITIES- BECAUSE WE KNOW
THIS COMMITTEES ARE GOING TO
BENEFIT A LOT FROM THE RESULT
THE OVERALL PRODUCTION OF CARBON
BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT
THERE'S NOT. NEGATIVE
EXTERNALITIES FROM THE CARTER
MOVIL ITSELF SO THAT'S ON THAT
FRONT. ON THE OTHER FRONT.
SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD BE PART
OF CAP AND TRADE I JUST THINK I
DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY APPETITE
FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO REOPEN
CAP AND TRADE. A. I. AND- I JUST
DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HAPPEN SO
TO SAY HEY IT SHOULD BE PART OF
CAP AND TRADE I THINK THAT JUST.
IS A SEPARATE BATTLE THE PEOPLE
PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO FIGHT AND
JUST GOING TO CONFUSE THINGS.
YEAH AND AGAIN AS WE SAID THIS
IS VERY SEPARATE FROM CAP AND
TRADE CARPENTRY PUTS A LIMIT ON
EMISSIONS. AND THEN YOU KNOW TO
BE SET UP AND PEOPLE CAN PULL IT
UP INTO THAT. THIS IS COMPLETELY
SEPARATE IS JUST CREATING A
MARKET MECHANISM. THAT WILL NOT
REALLY MARK EMISSIONS JUST
GETTING A MARKET RIGHT JUST
SAYING HEY. COMPANIES HAVE TO
PURCHASE IT OVER TIME INVESTORS
CAN INVEST IN THESE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES. AND THAT'S WHAT WE
FEELS IT'S VERY COMPLEMENTARY.
TO THAT. AND THEN THE QUESTION
IS REALLY ON ON WHO PAYS AND-
YOU KNOW OUR BELIEF IS TO BE
POLLUTER PAYS MODEL IF YOU
BELIEVE. IN CARBON REMOVAL IF
YOU BELIEVE IN THESE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES AND IT'S ACTION I
CAN BE THAT COSTLY FOR INDUSTRY-
AND- AND SO. YOU KNOW WE HOPE
WILL COME ON BOARD WITH THAT
MODEL AS WELL SO IT'S STILL
PRETTY EARLY. WE LOOK FORTY
COULD YOU THIS CONVERSATIONS I
KNOW- WITH SOME FOLKS WHO'VE
BEEN TALKING TO. THEIR APPOINTED
STANFORD AND STANFORD.
SCIENTISTS AND LOOK YOU KNOW AND
SO- IT THEN JUST WEEK. STAFF THE
NEW DOORS. WHICH IS THEIR NEW
BILLION DOLLAR SUSTAINABILITY
SCHOOL. ANNOUNCED ATMOSPHERE
CARBON REMOVAL AS THEIR FIRST
FOCUS AREA. SO I'M LOOKING
FORWARD TO GETTING. TOGETHER
WITH SOME OF THE OPPOSITION
WITH. EXPERTS AT STANFORD. TO
FOCUS ON THAT BECAUSE IF THEY
SAID THIS OUR FIRST. FOCUS AREA
MR CARTER MOVIL GREAT WE WANT TO
WORK WITH THEM WE WANT TO BE
PART OF THAT. SO I THINK THERE'S
A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS. TO BE
HAD. A GOING FORWARD AND- SO I
ASK. THAT YOU TO PASS THIS BILL
TODAY AND WILL AFFORD TO KEEP
WORKING ON IT. OKAY MY- TAKE AS
YOU CLOSE THE BOOK. ENTERTAIN A
MOTION WE HAVE QUORUM. FOR WE
DON'T QUORUM WHICH QUORUM EVEN
THOUGH SHE LEFT. PART MOVE BY
CENTER OF ARMS. I SAID OF HIS
COLOR. THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
THE PROBE. COMMITTEES ALAN I
FELL IN. DALY SO. YOU KNOW
GONZALEZ. FLETCHER MINJUR.
MENJIVAR I WHEN SKIN. OKAY TWO
ONE WITH FULLY THAT CALL ONE AND
WE- YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH
CENTER- AS- PORTANTINO I SAW
RUNNING. HE SAID THAT OKAY ONE
WIENER TEAM- MOST FOR THE
CONSENT- CENTER PLEASE CALL ROLL
. THE CAN CALENDAR. OF S. B.
FOUR NINETY AND THREE OH THREE
CENTERS ALAN FIVE ALLEN I DOLLY
DOLLY I GO. LET MANY. MEANS OF
OUR WHEN SKIN. OKAY WE'LL LEAVE
AN ON CALL I'M FINE THAT- AND-
YOUR. BUT MAKING ON CENTER JONES
BILL JONES FROM- SB THIRTY. AND
SEVEN DOLLARS OF THE MOVES SB
ONE THAT'S PETER TWO ITEM ONE.
MOTION TO PASS TO THE GOAL AND
FOR COMMITTEE CENTERS ALLEN.
DOLLY DALY AYE GONZALEZ THE MON
MEN. MENTIONS NO WAY SKIN. OKAY
THAT'S ONE OF THAT'S CALL- I
KNOW THAT SENTIMENT OUR WANT TO
MOVE DERIVE BILL. THAT SAYS
BEFORE ITEM FOR ONE WEEK A- THE
MOST IS TO PASS TO THE POPE
COMMITTEE CENTERS ALAN HI ALAN
HI DOLLY DOLLY NOW GONZALEZ
RAMON MENJIVAR MENJIVAR I'D WIN
SKINNER. OKAY TWO ONE THAT'S ON
CALL ALL RIGHT WE'RE WAITING FOR
AUTHORS SAYS SENATOR LEE MON
CENTER PORTANTINO CENTER COME
HERE COME ON DOWN- WE'LL TAKE A
QUICK A. LET'S LET LET LET ME
JUST CHECK RECHECK SEE THESE
FOLKS ARE COMMON- AND THEN IF
NOT WE'LL WE'LL PROCEED WITH
ABOUT. TEN YEARS AGO. OKAY.
FOR TO TAKE A QUICK RECESSED FOR
JUST A SECOND.
THREE NINETY. WELL CLEARLY
CONVERSANT WITH YOU IS A LITTLE
TALLER YOU MAY PROCEED WHEN
READY THOSE BACKER CAN CHAIR AND
SENATOR I PER TO YOU SB THREE
NINETY A BILL THAT WOULD ENACT
PROTECTIONS FOR PURCHASERS OF
CARBON OFFSETS CARBON OFFSETS
ALSO KNOWN AS CARBON CREDITS ARE
TREATABLE FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS
THAT CLAIM TO REPRESENT A
REDUCTION OF GREENHOUSE GASES IN
THE ATMOSPHERE DUE TO THE LACK
OF REGULATIONS AND ENFORCEABLE
STANDARDS THE CARBON OFFSET
MARKETS ARE BROKEN AND WE'RE
SEEING BUSINESSES LOSE
CONFIDENCE IN THIS PRODUCT THIS
BILL WOULD BRING MUCH NEEDED
CLARITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO
THE VOLUNTARY OFFSETS SPACE BY
ESTABLISHING TRUTH IN
ADVERTISING RULES FOR OFFSETS.
IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN THESE
MARKETS ANY CLAIMS MADE TO
CALIFORNIA CUSTOMERS MUST BE
FOUNDED IN A REASONABLE BASIS
THAT THE PROJECTS UNDERPINNING
THE OFFSETS PRODUCE REAL
QUANTIFIABLE AND ADDITIONAL
CARBON BENEFITS I SEATED BY THE
ACADEMIC RESEARCHERS WHO SUPPORT
THIS BILL WE HAVE BASED OUR BILL
ON STANDARD INDUSTRY TERMINOLOGY
AND COMMON INDUSTRY BEST
PRACTICES. AND I EXPECT THAT
GOOD FAITH ACTORS WILL BE ABLE
TO COMPLY. WE HAVE ALLOWED THESE
MARKETS TO DEVELOP WITH NO
GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT FOR MORE
THAN THREE DECADES NOW AND THE
EVIDENCE IS PILING UP THAT
ENFORCEABLE STANDARDS MUST BE IN
PLACE TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE IN
THESE PRODUCTS. TO PROTECT
CALIFORNIANS AND TO PROTECT OUR
CLIMATE GOALS I ASK FOR SUPPORT
FOR THIS MEASURE. OKAY DO YOU
HAVE FROM FOLKS WHO TESTIFIED
SUPPORT AREA. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE- I'LL
THROW IT ALONE THOUGH HERE ON
BEHALF OF A COMPANY CALLED H.
CYCLE. A CYCLE IS A RENEWABLE
HYDROGEN DEVELOPER- TRYING TO DO
A LOT OF WORK HERE IN
CALIFORNIA- BUT- I WANTED TO
TAKE A MOMENT TO REALLY
ARTICULATE THE- THE BUSINESS
IMPACT OF. HAVING JUNK OFFSETS
FOR ME THE MARKET NOT ONLY HERE
IN CALIFORNIA BUT
INTERNATIONALLY- AND WHAT THAT
ALTERNATELY MEANS FOR- THE FOLKS
THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON HOW
YOU DEFINE SUPPLIES OUR ECONOMY
AND- MOVE AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUELS
ALTOGETHER- THE FACT IS THAT.
THERE IS A LOT A LOT OF
COMMITMENTS BEING MADE TO
ACHIEVE CARBON NEUTRALITY NOT
ONLY FOR OUR STATE- BUT REALLY
ACROSS THE GLOBE. AND I THINK
THAT'S LEADING PEOPLE TO THE
ASSUMPTION THAT YOU CAN OFFSET
YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS- I DIDN'T
YOU KNOW WE DO AGREE THAT
OFFSETS HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY- BUT
ULTIMATELY REALLY WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT WITH THE CHALLENGES. IS
GETTING OUR EMISSIONS DOWN TO A
LEVEL- WHERE WE'RE NOT EMITTING
FOSSIL CARBON INTO THE
ATMOSPHERE AND BEING ABLE TO
TRANSFORM OUR ECONOMY- TO ONE
THAT AND THAT CAN BE
SUSTAINABLE. AND ACHIEVABLE IN
ACHIEVING OUR CLIMATE GOALS AND
HAVING DRUNK OFFSETS IN THE
MARKETPLACE- REALLY BECOMES A
STAIN ON ON ALL THE CLIMATE
PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING
ON- AND IT BECOMES AN EXCUSE SO
WE REALLY DO SUPPORT. AND
APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF THE
SENATOR AND MOVING THIS MEASURE
FORWARD- AND STRONG SUPPORT THIS
MEASURE AND. RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST AN AYE VOTE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT OTHER ONE OF
WAY IN SUPPORT. FOX TWO ONE OH
WEIGH IN ON. RAISE CONCERN ABOUT
THE BILL. THROUGH THE PHONE
LINES IS THAT. THREE NINETY.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR FOR THOSE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO. THE BILL THREE
NINETY PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO TIME PRESS ONE THEN ZERO.
SURE NO ONE IS SIGNALED THAT
THEY WISH TO SPEAK. OKAY LET'S
BRING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
THOUGHTS QUESTIONS. HOUSE. SHE'S
F. A POST. OKAY ALL RIGHT WE'LL-
THE FIRST YOU SEND- NUMBERS WE
WILL ENTERTAIN MOTION. THERE'S
ANOTHER DEMOCRAT IS HERE BECAUSE
OF THE CHAIR THE AUTHOR I MEAN
UNLESS UNLESS ALI WHY TO.
ACTUALLY OFF THE BILL AND THE
REASON IS I'M TO OUT- HI YOU'RE
GONNA THE HAT EIGENE FORCE THAT
THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THE BILL
OR SO I'M GONNA WAIT TILL GET
INFORMATION ON. I'M NOT OPPOSE
FOR IN SUPPORT YET ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU. CASH LISTEN TO THIS
KILLER. SHE SHE CAN MOVE ABOUT.
SHE FROM ABOUT. RECENTLY OKAY
YES OKAY GREAT YOU HAVE A GREAT
THANK YOU. GOLD YOU COULD HELP
ALL THE BILL. OKAY THE CENTERS
FOR CAN OUR LET'S CALL THE ROLL
. OKAY SB THREE THE MOST IS TO
PASS A JUDICIARY COMMITTEE SAID
ALLEN HI ALAN HI DOLLY. COMES
LET HI THE MÐI MEN'S WHEN SKI.
OKAY IT'S ON- WHEN WE LET TIME
WHEN WE LET TO SENATE LIMON ONTO
THE OTHER INFO SO WE- LET'S
START WITH SOME ITEM. THIS IS-
IT. SB THIRTY JONES THAT. SHARES
NOT SUPER. MST PASS OF THE GAME
IN FRONT COMMITTEE ALAN GONZALEZ
LIMÓN. WHEN THREE. OKAY WE'LL GO
TO TWO THAT SAYS THREE OH BY
BACK. CURRENT VOTERS TO DO ONE
SENATOR A CHAIR VOTE HIGH BY
CEREMONY NO GUNS LET ME. HI
LIMÓN AYE WHEN SKINNER. THREE
OKAY ONE OVER THE BACK ON CALLER
GO TO. AND LIMÓN SO THAT TERM
CANAL ON. SB AS S. B. THREE NINE
NINE CENTERS DOLLY GONZALEZ MEN
. MEASURABLY WHEN SKINNER. THREE
DAYS IT'S BY ON COAL LET'S DO
THE DRAW A BILL A- FOUR FIFTEEN.
TH KUBOTA'S TWO ONE. TWO I BUY
EXTRA ROUTING GUN. LIMO I
THURMOND I WHEN SKINNER. THREE
ONE BACK ON CALL- LET'S DO THE
CAN CAL. THE CONSENT CALENDAR
VIOLATE EIGHT IN FILE ITEM
NUMBER FIFTY CENTERS GUNS. LIMON
HI LIMÓN I WHEN AND SKINNER.
OVER THAT BACK ON CALL. FOR THE
SENATE THE CENTER POINT YES
PRESENTING CURRENT OF FINANCE.
RECENT.
AMONG THOSE. OKAY.
NO.
RIGHT. YEAH.
HEARING.
YEAH.
YEAH ALL RIGHT LET'S HEAR FROM
CENTER BLAKE SPEIR ITEM NINE IN
YOUR AGENDA IS. THIS IS-
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS
INVENTORIES. THANK YOU TURN
COLLEAGUES APPRECIATE YOU YOUR
PATIENCE I WAS COMING FROM
ANOTHER COMMITTEES I THINK ANY
OF US DO I KNOW THE YOU SO MUCH
YOU MAY PROCEED WITH. BECAUSE OF
THIS SB A LOT- AND I JUST WANTED
TO SAY FIRST THANK YOU TO THE
WORK OF THE COMMITTEE
CONSULTANTS ON THE ANALYSIS OF
THIS BILL I'VE ACCEPTED THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PROPOSED BY
THE COMMITTEE CONSULTANTS SO
TODAY I PRESENT YOU SB FIVE
ELEVEN WHICH WOULD DIRECT THE
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
OR CARB TO PROVOKE TO PREPARE
AND PROVIDE DATA ON GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS FOR LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS. THIS WILL HELP
THEM IN PREPARING THE CLIMATE
ACTION PLANS AND SUBSEQUENTLY
THEN OF COURSE REDUCING THEIR
EMISSIONS SO THE BILL WOULD
PROVIDE CAR WITH AN
APPROPRIATION TO CARRY OUT THESE
ACTIVITIES SO WE'RE WELL PAST
THE ELEVENTH HOUR FOR ADDRESSING
THE ADVANCES OF CLIMATE CHANGE
TWENTY TWENTY ONE WAS THE SIXTH
HOTTEST YEAR EVER WILD FIRES
FLOODS EXTREME HEAT COLD DROUGHT
ALL MANIFESTATIONS OF THIS
EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO
CALIFORNIA'S COMMUNITIES. AND WE
CAN STILL TAKE ACTION TO
MITIGATE THE SEVERITY AND
FREQUENCY OF THESE EVENTS SO
COLLECTIVELY REDUCING OUR GHG
EMISSIONS IS CRITICAL CALIFORNIA
HAS TAKEN NUMEROUS STEPS TO
INCENTIVIZE PRIVATE CORPORATIONS
AND CONSUMERS AND TO DIRECT
PUBLIC AGENCIES TO REDUCE GHG
EMISSIONS. AND THESE HAVE BEEN
IMPLEMENTED WITH GREAT SUCCESS
BUT WE SHOULD DO BETTER AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL. SO I KNOW THIS AS
THE FORMER MAYOR OF THE
STEVENSON NEED US WHERE WE TOOK
THESE CHALLENGES TO HEART. IN
TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN SB THREE
SEVENTY NINE DIRECTED CITIES AND
COUNTIES TO INCORPORATE CLIMATE
ADAPTATION AND RESILIENCE
STRATEGIES INTO THEIR GENERAL
PLANS. BUT MOST LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE STRUGGLED TO
EFFECTIVELY DEVELOP THESE
STRATEGIES DUE TO THE RESOURCES
AND EXPERTISE. THAT ARE REQUIRED
TO COLLECT AND MAINTAIN ACCURATE
DATA ON GHG EMISSIONS. THESE THE
DATA IS ESSENTIAL FOR SETTING
REDUCTION GOALS AND MEASURING
PROGRESS TOWARD TOWARD MEETING
THESE GOALS. THE DIRECT CARD TO
PROVIDE CITIES AND COUNTIES.
WITH AN INVENTORY OF THEIR GHG
EMISSIONS WILL ENABLE THEM TO
CREATE DATA DRIVEN CLIMATE
ACTION PLANS THAT ARE MORE
EFFECTIVE. IN ADDITION BY MAKING
CORPORATE SPONSOR BULL SB FIVE
ELEVEN WOULD ENSURE CONSISTENCY
IN DATA COLLECTION METHODOLOGY.
THAT ALLOWS FOR ROBUST ANALYSIS
OF REGIONAL AND STATEWIDE
TRENDS. FINALLY HAVING CARP
COLLECT THESE DATA POINTS WILL
SIMPLY BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE.
RATHER THAN FINDING EACH
INDIVIDUAL CITY AND COUNTY TO
HIRE SPECIALIZED STAFF TO CARRY
OUT THIS FUNCTION WE CAN ACHIEVE
ECONOMIES OF SCALE BY DIRECTING
CARD TO DO THIS. I DON'T BUY MY
SPONSORS JODY LONDON FROM CONTRA
COSTA COUNTY AND BRIAN SHUSTER
FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE
ASSOCIATION. TO PROVIDE THEIR
TESTIMONY ON THIS BILL. HI THERE
. GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS JODY
LONDON I'M THE SUSTAINABILITY
COORDINATOR FOR CONTRA COSTA
COUNTY MY JOB IS TO OVERSEE
IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR COUNTIES
CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. AN
IMPORTANT TOOL IN OUR WORK IS
TRACKING PROGRESS IN REDUCING
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
EMISSIONS INVENTORIES ARE
NECESSARY RESIDENTS WANT TO KNOW
OUR PROGRESS AND INVENTORIES
PROVIDE VALUE TO OUR BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS IN UNDERSTANDING HOW
TO INVEST LIMITED FUNDS. RIGHT
NOW ONLY HALF OF JURISDICTIONS
IN THE STATE HAVE A CLIMATE
ACTION PLAN OR EMISSIONS
INVENTORY ONLY ONE THIRD ARE
TRACKING EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS
TARGETS. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FACE
CHALLENGES WITH STAFF FUNDS IN
THE SKILL SET NEEDED TO DEVELOP
INVENTORY OF THE NINETEEN CITIES
IN CONTRA COSTA COUNTY MOST ARE
LUCKY IF THEY'RE ABLE TO ASSIGN
ONE PERSON HAVE TIME. TO WORK ON
CLIMATE ISSUES ACROSS THE STATE
THE LACK OF INVENTORIES IS ONE
OF THE BIGGEST BARRIERS TO
SUBSTANTIAL LOCAL ACTION. HAVING
THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD DEVELOP
EMISSIONS INVENTORIES WILL
PROVIDE MANY BENEFITS FOR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND FOR CALIFORNIA
FIRST THIS WILL PROVIDE STANDARD
METRICS ACROSS THE STATE
ALLOWING APPLES TO APPLES
COMPARISONS OF PROGRESS. SECOND
THIRD BE GREAT VALUE FOR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AS THE STATE
REALIZES ECONOMIES OF SCALE. OUR
ROUGH ESTIMATE IS THAT THE COST
FOR EACH LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO
DEVELOP ITS OWN EMISSIONS
INVENTORY CAN BE AS HIGH AS
FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WHILE
HAVING A CENTRALIZED INVENTORY
DEVELOPED BY THE STATE WOULD BE
ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS PER
JURISDICTION A TEN FOLD
DIFFERENCE. THIS LACK OF
INVENTORIES PRESENTS AN EQUITY
CONCERNS STATEWIDE IN TERMS OF
WHO HAS ACCESS TO DATA THERE'LL
BE GREATER PARTICIPATION BY
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ON CLIMATE
ACTION IF THERE'S A STATEWIDE
INVENTORY. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
WILL BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON
IMPLEMENTATION. THE INVENTORY
TOOL PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED FOR
FREE TO ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BY
THEIR BOARD IS NO LONGER FREE
AND THERE IS NO STAFF SUPPORT
INTERNALLY OR EXTERNALLY TO HELP
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. WE'VE SEEN A
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND
DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF
INVENTORIES SINCE THIS HELP WAS
RESCINDED. CITIES AND COUNTIES
WANT TO HELP CALIFORNIA REACH
ITS AMBITIOUS GOALS AND WE NEED
THE STATE'S HELP WITH THE DATA
TO AND FORMER. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT- YOU'RE GOING TO
GET INTO. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR VICE CHAIR MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE. I AM BRIAN
SHUSTER ARE QUALITY IN CLIMATE
CHANGE DIRECTOR ENVIRONMENTAL
SCIENCE ASSOCIATES. AND I'M HERE
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL
PROFESSIONALS CLIMATE CHANGE
COMMITTEE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. I HAVE PREPARED HUNDREDS
OF GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORIES
AND DOZENS OF CAPS BURKE CITIES
AND COUNTIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA
AND MY FIFTEEN YEARS OF
CONSULTING EXPERIENCE. SB FIVE
ELEVEN SUPPORTS LOCAL CLIMATE
ACTION PLANNING WHICH IS
CRITICAL TO ACHIEVING THE
STATE'S LONG TERM CLIMATE GOALS.
BY PROVIDING INVENTORIES SB FIVE
ELEVEN WILL GIVE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS A HEAD START ON
THEIR CAPS. WHICH WILL HELP
COMMUNITIES ALIGN WITH STATEWIDE
TARGETS AND TRANSITION TO A LOW
CARBON ECONOMY. MANY CITIES AND
COUNTIES WANT TO DEVELOP A
CATHOLIC CANNOT DO THIS COST AND
TIME COMMITMENT. THIS BILL WILL
REDUCE COSTS IN SOUTH TIME
MAKING CAPS MORE ACCESSIBLE. IN
TURN THIS WILL HELP REDUCE
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS
STATEWIDE ACCORDING TO CARP
QUOTE A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF
CALIFORNIANS GHG EMISSION
REDUCTION POTENTIAL. COMES FROM
ACTIVITIES OVER WHICH LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE AUTHORITY OR
INFLUENCE. CITIES AND COUNTIES
CONTROL LET LOCAL LAND USE
BUILDING ENERGY STANDARDS AND
TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. LOCAL
ACTION IS A CORE COMPONENT OF
CARBS TWENTY TWENTY TWO SCOPING
PLAN. CAPS CREATE THE NECESSARY
CONDITIONS FOR STATE POLICIES TO
SUCCEED. THE STATE IS COUNTING
ON LOCAL GOVERNMENTS REDUCE
EMISSIONS IN THIS BILL WILL HELP
MORE CITIES AND COUNTIES DO
THAT. AS YOU HEARD BEFORE
INVENTORY DATA COLLECTION CAN BE
COSTLY AND TIME CONSUMING THIS
IS ESPECIALLY TRUE FOR ENERGY
USE AND FEEL COLLECTIVITY DATA.
KHARQAN CENTRALIZE AND
STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS I KNOW
FROM EXPERIENCE DOING MULTIPLE
INVENTORIES. THAT IT'S FAR MORE
COST EFFECTIVE TO DO IT THAT WAY
THAN DOING THEM ONE BY ONE.
FINALLY SB FIVE ELEVEN WILL HELP
CITIES MONITOR PROGRESS AND
ADJUST THEIR STRATEGIES TO
REDUCE EMISSIONS MORE
EFFECTIVELY. THIS WILL ALSO
ALLOW CAR TO SEE THE
CONTRIBUTION FROM LOCAL TO
STATEWIDE EMISSIONS AND BETTER
IMPLEMENT ITS OWN PROGRAMS.
BEATTY CLIMATE CHANGE COMMITTEE
HAS STRATEGIES AND IDEAS FOR HOW
TO SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENT THIS
BILL AND WE ARE MORE THAN READY
TO WORK WITH KERR MOVING
FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL
RIGHT OTHER FOLKS WANNA WIN
SUPPORT. SORRY MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS ROGER DICKINSON ON
BEHALF OF CIVIC WELL FORMALLY
LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMISSION A-
CO SPONSOR OF THE BILL AND- IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK
YOU. PERSECUTORS HERE ON BEHALF
OF STOP WASTE IN CITY OF WEST
HOLLYWOOD IN SUPPORT. MORE
MATURE MEMBERS TRUST BUCKLEY ON
BEHALF TO SEE IF SACRAMENTO IN
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING LILLIAN
MARVIS WITH M. C. E. AND
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
CHOICE AGGREGATOR HERE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. OKAY THANK
YOU SO MUCH- OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL FOLKS ONE RAISE CONCERNS. I
SEEN ON THE SCREEN THE PHONE
LINES. YEAH THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL PLEASE PRESS ONE FROM
THROUGHOUT THIS TIME PRESS ONE
ENTER ONLY ONE TIME AS PRESIDENT
SPICE WILL REMOVE YOU FROM THE
QUEUE. WE'RE GONNA GO TO LINE
FIFTY. FOR LINES OPEN. THE
MORNING WOODY HAYES. IS OUT
LOOTING BILL PROGRAM. WITH
PLYMOUTH. OR A FIFTY FIVE. ONE
SEVENTY EIGHT YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. GOOD MORNING VALERIE'S
ENTRY HUTTON'S REPRESENTING
THREE FIFTY BAY AREA ACTION THE
DEMOCRATS ACROSS FOR INSISTING
THE BILL ROTH MARCH IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE
OKAY MORRELL SAID THEM BACK TO
THE MAIN SAYS ON. YOUR EXCEPT IN
THE COMMITMENT YES THANK YOU FOR
THE I MAKES A BILL BILL LOT
BETTER I THINK IT IS- FOR THE
VOLUNTARY ALL COMMENSAL THAT I
WILL MOVE THE BILL. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT LET'S- ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS. YOU MAY CLOSE. THANK
YOU- SO I APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL I JUST WANT
TO SAY BRIEFLY THAT WHEN I
SERVED AS THE MAYOR OF THE CITY
EVENTS NEED US WHEN WE WANTED TO
DO A MODE SHIFTING PROJECT THAT
WOULD PUT IN A MAJOR BY
CLEANTECH OUT A LANE OF TRAFFIC
WAS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL
WHAT THE EMISSIONS REDUCTION
FROM THAT PROJECT WOULD BE. AND
THAT'S THE KIND OF DATA THAT
HELP SUPPORT PROJECTS LIKE THAT
IN A COMMUNITY THAT MAYBE IS IT
IS A LINE IN SOME WAYS BUT NOT
IN OTHER WAYS AND SO PROVIDING
THE STATE OF THIS TO CITIES THAT
WANT IT. WILL REALLY HELP US TO
FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL AND ULTIMATELY THAT
IS WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE WILL BE
SOLVED. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
SUPPORT. COURAGE AND I THOUGHT
THANK YOU SENATOR THANK YOU OKAY
IT'S BEEN MOVED. BY CENTER DOLLY
AND LET'S SON. LET'S GO AHEAD
AND DO THE VOTE. THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
SENATORS ALAN HI. ALAN HI DOLLY.
DOLLY I GONZALEZ. LIMON LOW MON
MENTIONED. MENTOR HI WHEN
SKINNER. FOR HIS IT'S ON MY FOOT
IS PREVENT CALL THANK YOU OUR
CENTER. I SEE CENTER FOR TO HEAR
FOR FROM. GOVERNMENT'S AND FIND
COMMITTEE. HE'S HERE TO. AS
BEFORE TWENTY TWO AT SEVEN FIVE
IN YOUR TEST NUMBERS. YOU MAY
PERCEIVE AND READ HIM. THANK YOU
A MUCH CHAIRMAN. THIS SHOULD
FAMILIAR TO WITH NO OF YOU. ON
THE COMMITTEE BE YOUR HARDEST
BILL. LAST YEAR. AND VOTER FOR
IT ON FLOORS. SENATE SENATE CAL
LEAD AN ADDRESS CLIMATE PA IN OF
INTO. MUCH OF IT TO BY THE- AND-
TO IMPLEMENT THAT STATE
AMBITIOUS CLIMATE GOALS AND
ACHIEVE THE TARGET REDUCTIONS IN
EMISSIONS SIGNIFICANT
MODIFICATIONS MUST BE MADE. TO
OUR EXISTING FACILITIES AND
INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE GOING TO
MEET OUR GOALS WE GOT TO HAVE
THE CAPACITY TO ACTUALLY MEET
OUR GOALS. TO IMPLEMENT THESE
AMBITIOUS GOALS AND ACHIEVE THE
TARGET REDUCTIONS EMISSIONS
SIGNIFICANT. CHANGES MUST BE
MADE TO HELP SB FOUR TWENTY TWO
AIMS TO EXPAND A SEQUEL VIEW
REVIEW PROCESS FOR PROJECTS THAT
REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS
INCORPORATE POLLUTION CONTROL
EQUIPMENT AND MADE ENERGY
EFFICIENT STANDARDS WHILE
PROVIDING. FOR A SKILLED AND
TRAINED WORKFORCE TO ENSURE THAT
THE STATE CAN MEET ITS CLIMATE
GOALS IN MINNA FI. MINIMIZED TO
PUT COULD WORK AND EXPENSES AS
BEFORE TWENTY TWO WILL LEAD THE
ELIMINATE LAYERS OF
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW FOR CERTAIN
PROJECTS WITH. COMPROMISING
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION THESE
POLICIES WILL HELP FACILITATE
THE BILLING OF CLIMATE ORIENTED
PROJECTS BY PROVIDING. CERTAINTY
IN DESIGNING FINANCING
PERMITTING AND PROVIDE FOR A
SKILLED WORKFORCE WITH ME TODAY
WE HAVE BEVERLY YOU WITH THE
STATE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION
TRADES COUNCIL. AND TIM
CARMICHAEL WITH THE CALIFORNIA
COUNCIL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND
ECONOMIC BALANCE AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
WHEN APPROPRIATE. AND I WANT TO
COMPLIMENT THE CHAIR FOR-
WORKING CLOSELY WITH ME AND I
KNOW. HE'S GOING TO BE
CONTINUING TO MONITOR THIS BILL
AS IT MOVES THROUGH THE PROCESS
AS LAST YEAR. AND WE HOPE WE GET
ENGAGEMENT FROM THE YOU KNOW THE
GOVERNOR'S EFFORTS ON
INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL WE KNOW
THERE'S A INFRASTRUCTURES ARE
THAT'S BEEN APPOINTED AND- WE
LOOK FORWARD FOR A BROADER
CONVERSATION AND- IT'S JUST
IMPORTANT TO GET SOMETHING DONE
THAT HELPS. MAKE US MEET OUR
GOAL SO WITH THAT I'LL HEAR FROM
MY WITNESSES. OKAY LET'S HEAR
FROM THE. MISSUS MYSTERY MEMBERS
. ON THE STATE BUILDING BECAUSE
TRADE COUNCIL. PROUD SPONSOR- OF
SB FOUR TWO TWO I DEFER MY TIME-
TO MR THE TRIAL HERE WITH ELLIE
OC BILLINGTREE THINKING YOU.
THANK YOU GOOD MORNING ETCETERA
ALLEN. MEMBERS THE SAN BERMAN
COME MEETINGS ARE SOME OF THE
DON'T CULTURE REPRESENT. FOR THE
LOS ANGELES AND ORANGE COUNTY
INCOME. TRADES COUNCIL FEDERAL
FOR TWENTY TWO IS A BILL THAT
ENABLES OUR EXISTING INDUSTRIES
TO IMPLEMENT POLLUTION CONTROL
DEVICES IN A WAY THAT IS SAFE
EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE. WELL A
LOT OF WORK TO DO IN CALIFORNIA
TO REACH OUR SUPER AGGRESSIVE
CLIMATE GOALS. THIS REQUIRES A
MULTI LAYERED APPROACH WITH THE
RING AREN'T MORE GREEN
GENERATION AND THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT THE OLDEST ALIOSKI BUILDING
TRADES ARE WORKING ON IN
EARNEST. CONVERTING THE SCARAB A
GOOD POWER PLANT THE HYDROGEN
BELIEVES SUSTAINABLE AVIATION
FUEL FACILITIES AND EMBARKING ON
CARBON CAPTURE TO SCALE. WE'RE
EXCITED ABOUT OUR WORK WITH
ARCHES TO HOPEFULLY MAKE KELLY A
HYDROGEN HUB AND OUR MEMBERS ARE
POISED TO WORK ON OFFSHORE WIND
CONSTRUCTION UP AND DOWN THE
COAST. IT WAS OUR MEMBERS THAT
TRAVEL TO THE HIGH DESERT TO
BUILD A VAST UTILITY SCALE WIND
AND SOLAR FUELS THAT MEET
CALIFORNIA A GLOBAL LEADER.
BEYOND THE GENERATION WE ARE
AHEAD OF THE CURVE BUILDING IN
WAYS THAT DECREASE EMISSIONS WE
HAVE LED THE WAY MOST
ENVIRONMENTALLY INNOVATIVE.
CONSTRUCTION TAKE A LOOK AT ALL
THE LED THE- DELIBERATE PLANNING
BUILDINGS. THAT WE BUILT IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IN FACT I
THINK THIS BILL IS ONE OF THOSE-
AND OUR PARTNERSHIP TWENTY
CENTER BEGIN TRAINING CLIMATE
INNOVATION. LONG BEFORE IT
BECAME A REALITY IN CALIFORNIA
WITH OUR IBEW LOCAL ELEVEN
BILLION THE FIRST. NET ZERO
TRAINING CENTER THE STATE. WE
ARE NEW GENERATION A NEW
CONSTRUCTION WE ALSO NEED TO
LOOK AT THE EXISTING NEEDED
INDUSTRIES. IN CALIFORNIA. EVERY
BLUE COLLAR JOB IS TO SOME
EXTENT DEPENDENT ON THE MANY IN
INDUSTRY WE CANNOT AND CERTAINLY
SHOULD NOT WIPE OUT EMPLOYMENT
OPPORTUNITIES. FOR A BLUE COLLAR
WORKFORCE SO WE NEED TO WORK
TOGETHER TO MAKE THESE
INDUSTRIES CLEANER. AND THAT IS
WHAT SB FOUR TWENTY TWO IS ALL
ABOUT. MAKING OUR EMPLOYERS UP.
ONGOING OPERATIONS AS CLEAN AS
POSSIBLE AND DOING SO WITH A
HIGHER SKILLED AND TRAINED.
CONSTRUCTION WORKERS IN THE
NATION. THERE'S A LOT OF TALK IN
THE CAPITAL BUT FINDING COMMON
GROUND BETWEEN. OUR STATES BLUE
COLLAR WORKFORCE INDUSTRY AN
ENVIRONMENTALIST. WILL THIS BE
FORTY TWO DOES JUST THAT WE
SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE WORK
CENTER PORTANTINO HAS DONE WITH
THE BUILDING TRADES ON HIS BILL.
AND FOR THE REASONS ABOVE. I
AFTER SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL
FOR. TWO ON BEHALF OF THE ALL
THE OLD. BILLION A CONSTRUCTION
TRADES COUNT. WE NIVAL THANK YOU
THANK YOU. PROFESSOR GOOD
MORNING- TIM CARMAN WITH THE
KILL. CAN FOR. AND AT. BALLOT
GOOD TO SEE YOU SENATOR. COULD
BE HERE. IN SUPPORT OF HAS
BEFORE. TWO UGH CBS COAL. OF
LABOR BUSINESS. AND
ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY LEADERS
WORKING TO. ON IN PART. POLICE
TO STAY IN A SALUTE. AND A
STRONG ECONOMY HEARING
CALIFORNIA. IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO
THIS LEGISLATURE INCREASED
CALIFORNIA'S ALREADY AMBITIOUS
CLIMATE GOALS SETTING A TARGET
OF EIGHTY FIVE. 85% REDUCTION
GREENHOUSE GASES. HELLO NINETEEN
NINETY LEVELS. AND CARBON
NEUTRALITY BY TWENTY TO FORTY
FIVE. THIS COMMITTEE ALONG WITH
ASSEMBLY NATURAL RESOURCES THE
JOINT LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE ON
CLIMATE CHANGE. AND OTHERS HAVE
EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT OUR
PROGRESS TOWARDS THESE GOALS.
ADDITIONALLY CALIFORNIA
SIGNIFICANT GOALS FOR SHORT
LIVED CLIMATE POLLUTANTS ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES- NATURAL AND
WORKING LANDS A 100% RENEWABLE
AND CLEAN ELECTRICITY BY TWENTY
FORTY FIVE. ALL OF THESE ENERGY
AND CLIMATE GOALS WILL REQUIRE.
NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AT A SCALE
AND PACE THAT THE SCOPING PLAN
AND OTHER PLANNING DOCUMENTS
ILLUSTRATE HIS MULTIPLE TIMES
FASTER THAN CALIFORNIA HAS EVER
BUILT NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.
GROWING CONSENSUS FROM A RANGE
OF MEDIA OUTLETS FROM CALLUM
MATTERS TO THE L. A. TIMES THE
WALL STREET JOURNAL AND WITHIN
THE UNCERTAINTY ANALYSIS OF THE
SCOPING PLAN. INDICATE THAT SEEK
WHAT IS A MAJOR BARRIER TO
ACHIEVING OUR CLIMATE AND ENERGY
AMBITION. THE GOVERNOR STATED AS
RECENTLY AS THE END OF FEBRUARY
OF THIS YEAR OUR SECRET PROCESS
IS CLEARLY BROKEN. SB FOUR
TWENTY TWO IS A MODEST EFFORT TO
IMPROVE SYKORA FOR SOME OF
CALIFORNIA'S DECARBONISATION
PROJECTS. WE ARE COMMITTED TO
PROTECTING ENVIRONMENTAL
INTEGRITY OF SEQUEL. WHILE
PROVIDING CERTAINTY FOR PROJECT
DEVELOPERS TO QUICKLY PUT
CAPITAL TO WORK. USING EMISSIONS
. HERE IN CALIFORNIA IF WE COULD
ASK YOU TO WRAP UP OKAY. WE
APPRECIATE CENTER PORTANTINO'S
LEADERSHIP ON THIS CHALLENGING
BUT CRITICAL POLICY WE WOULD
WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK
WITH THE CENTERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE- TO HELP CONVEY THE
URGENCY OF NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT IS NEEDED TO ENABLE THE
ACHIEVEMENT OF CALIFORNIA'S
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION GOALS
THANK YOU THANK YOU SIR OKAY-
THE BOOKS YOU WANT TO JUST GIVE
THEIR NAME AND AFFILIATION IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS MATT CLEMONS ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA NEVADA
CONFERENCE OF OPERATING
ENGINEERS IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
CRYSTAL HONOR WITH WESTERN
PROPANE GAS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT. VIRGIL WELSH CALIFORNIA
CARBON SOLUTIONS COALITION IN
SUPPORT. SACRAMENTO UNITED
EXPRESSION- IN SUPPORT- SORRY
STILL WANT TO SAY IS A
DISAPPOINTMENT SEVEN FORTY GOT
TAKEN OUT I CAME ALL THE WAY
FROM THE IMPERIAL VALLEY SO
HOPEFULLY WILL MAKE IT NEXT WEEK
THANK YOU THE SUPPORT THANK YOU
SIR. YEAH VINCE A GIRL BEHALF OF
SHEET METAL WORKERS LOCAL ONE OH
FOUR IN SUPPORT. HELLO HI
MITCHELL BACK TO ON BEHALF THE
DISCOUNTS LINE WORKERS AND
SUPPORT. TO THE JEFFERSON THAT'S
REPRESENTABLE MAKERS IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL AND WE WILL BACK
WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK FOR SB
SEVEN FORTY. I THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING JOHN HERSHEY ON BEHALF
OF PLUMBERS AND PIPEFITTERS
LOCAL FOUR FOUR SEVEN HERE IN
SACRAMENTO IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
. GOOD MORNING DOMINIC ROUSSEL
BUSINESS ASIAN FOOTBALL MAKERS
LOCAL FIVE FORTY NINE ALONG WITH
ALL MY OTHER BROTHERS AND
SISTERS IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING CHOI ARTS AND
BUSINESS AGENT FOR THE IRON
WORKERS LOCAL ONE EIGHTEEN HERE
IN SACRAMENTO IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING RAYMOND DAVIS PRESIDENT
IRON WORKERS LOCAL ONE EIGHTEEN
IN SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING THANK
YOU GREW LOCAL FIVE FORTY NINE
OUT OF PITTSBURGH HERE TO
SUPPORT SB FOUR TWENTY TWO
TWENTY TWO AND SB SEVEN FORTY
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING- RANDY
THOMAS BOILERMAKERS LOCAL TYPE
FORTY NINE BUSINESS MENTOR
SECRETARY TREASURER AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. J. ROCK TROUBLEMAKERS
FIVE FORTY NINE IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING DAVID HOGAN DURABLE THE
MAKERS OF THE FIVE FORTY NINE IN
SPORT. GOOD MORNING LEAST A
MONTH AS BUSINESS MANAGER FOR
BOILERMAKERS LOCAL NIGHT TOTAL
SIGNED IN THIS IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU THANK YOU GO DODGERS.
THERE'S A WARRANT LOCAL FOR FOUR
NO THE PRINTERS FOR SUPPORT. THE
MORNING BAR LOCAL FIVE FOUR NINE
AT SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING OF REGULATE WITH BORDER
LOW NINETY TWO AND SUPPORT.
JAMES LOCAL FOUR IN SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING ORTIZ JONES LOCAL
FIVE FORTY NINE IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR. THE
DODGER FAN INVESCO SABELLA
BOILERMAKERS LOCAL NINETY TWO
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH EVERYBODY THANK YOU I'M
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO RAISE
CONCERNS ABOUT THE BILL
OPPOSITION. ANYONE THE PHONE
LINES PHONE LINES FOR US BEFORE
TWENTY TWO. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO FOR FORTY TWO PLEASE PRESS
ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME PRESS
ONE ZERO. M. SECURE WE HAVE
SEVERAL PEOPLE OF SIGNALED THAT
THEY WISH TO SPEAK ONE MOMENT.
WE'RE NOW GOING TO GO TO LINE
ELEVEN YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
THANK YOU MANY PRIMEROS
MODERATION ANCHORS COUNTY
BUILDING CONSTRUCTION TRADES
COUNCIL WHERE IN SUPPORT. OF THE
STATE BUILDING TRADES AT THE
FOURTEENTH THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. IN LINE THIRTY YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. SIX ONE THIRTY YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. ANY RIGHT FORMERS
IN PIPEFITTERS UA LOCAL TWO FOUR
SIX IN THE FRESNO- WE ARE IN
SUPPORT OF IT HAS BEFORE. ONE
THIRTY THREE YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
HI GOOD MORNING THIS IS EMPTY
YEAR'S AS THAT YOU'RE LOCAL HEAT
FROST AND WE'RE AND SHE- BILL
FOR TWENTY. THANK YOU. BY THIRTY
TWO YEAR LONG IS SO. THE MORNING
MEETING- THIS IS JOHN HENRY
LOPEZ WITH THE UA PLUMBERS AND
PIPEFITTERS LOCAL FOR SIX OUT OF
FRESNO. AND WE STAND IN SUPPORT
OF SB FOUR TWENTY TWO THANK YOU
. AS A REMINDER IF YOU PRESS ONE
THEN ZERO A SECOND TIME THIS
WILL REMOVE YOU FROM THE COMMENT
TO KILL. NOW GOING TO GO TO LINE
. TWENTY EIGHT. ONE TWENTY EIGHT
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. THANK YOU
MARK BURKE FROM IBEW LOCAL FIVE
NINE FIVE REPRESENTING ALAMEDA.
I WANT IN A CALAVERAS COUNTY
ELECTRICIANS CLEAR AND STRONG
SUPPORTER BILLBOARD TWO TWO
WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK FOR BILL
CLINTON FORTY THANK YOU. FIND
FIFTY EIGHT YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. FRIDAY BROAD LOCAL FIVE
FORTY DARN IN STRONG SUPPORT.
ONE FORTY ONE YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. OF THE MORE IN THE STATE
WE CAN WITHOUT SELF WITH IBEW
LOCAL FIVE NINE FIVE I STAND IN
SUPPORT OF SB FOUR TWENTY TWO
THANK YOU. BLIND FIFTY NINE YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. MICHAEL RAW
THEIR OUR TRADES THE TRIPLE SIX
WE ARE. LINE FORTY NINE YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. MORNING MY
NAME IS PAUL MARINO PRESIDENT BY
WORKERS LOCAL FOUR THIRTY THREE
LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT
STRONG SUPPORT WITH THE BUILDING
TRADES ON AT IT FOR TWENTY TWO
THANK. ONE SEVEN YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. HI DEREK COLE WAS
ELECTED WORKERS LOCAL THREE OH
TWO WHEN WE STAND THANK YOU. WE
HAVE SEVERAL MORE PEOPLE OF
SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK
ONE MOMENT PLEASE. LINE SEVENTY
FOR YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN- GOOD
MORNING- MY NAME IS ROBERT ABOUT
THE TRAINING COORDINATOR FOR
PLUMBERS AND PIPEFITTERS OUT
HERE IN FRESNO LOCAL TWO FOUR
SIX AND WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL AND GO GIANTS. NO I
DON'T KNOW NOW. OKAY LINE MY
COMMENTS WITH THE CHAIR. WHY
PENN YOUR LINE IS NOW A- IF THE
OTHERS THE BILL TO IT WOULD BE
INTERNET UNION OF CONSTRUCTORS.
THEN WE'RE STRONG THANK YOU. ONE
TWENTY YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
GOOD MORNING IT BRANDON EVAN
BERG BILL THEY DID YOU A LOOK TO
POOR SICK AMER I PATTERSON H. IT
THE FOR. IN SUPPORT OF IT THE
FOURTEENTH. TWO PLEASE MIND
FINAL CALL FOR ANY WHO WISHES TO
COME ON THIS PLEASE FOR ONE AND
. RESEARCHER THERE'S NO ONE ELSE
TO SICK THAT THERE'S- OKAY THANK
YOU MUCH LET'S BRING IT BACK THE
COMMITTEE FOR QUESTION. COM A
NOTE. SOME OF THE BILL OKAY GO
KINGS HAS ALL RIGHT. YEAH BY THE
BEAM. ALL RIGHT- LET'S YOU CLOSE
. IT AS IT'S BEEN STATED YOU
KNOW WE HAVE AMBITIOUS GOALS WE
NEED TRY TO ME THEM AND WE NEED
TO TRY TO MEET THEM AN
ENVIRONMENTALLY WAY AND THAT'S
SUITES WE'RE TRYING HIT. AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO WITH THE AND IS
THIS BILL FORWARD IN RESPECT ASK
FOR AYE VOTE THANK YOU FOR
CENTER PRICE MOVE A SENATOR WELL
IT'S COLOR. THE MOTION TO PASS
TO THE LABOR PER COMPLETE IN MAY
TWO COMMITTEE CENTERS ALLEN. BY
ALLEN I DALY DALY I COMES HI IT
IS A I LIMON. LIMON A MENTOR OF
MEANT FOR I WHEN SKINNER. HE
OKAY. FIVE ZERO.
THE FEMALE.
THIS IS ALSO LIKE A PRESENTER
BILL- SO I'M JUST GONNA GO AND
DO IT. THAT BE GREAT YEAH I AM
THIS IS ITEM THIRTEEN IT'S A
RESOLUTION- EIGHT. YEAH I'M GOOD
AT THIS I KNOW YOU CAN DO THIS.
IT'S ONE OF RAIN. SIX YEAH.
FIFTY REFERENCE FRAZIER FROM THE
DIFFERENT OPERATOR.
AND. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FOR AS.
TWO THIRTY. GREAT THANK YOU
MEMBER I'M PRESENTING AT CHAIRED
WILL BE OF SAN GUNS- THIS
MEASURE WOULD ENDORSE THE CALL
FOR A FOSSIL FUEL
NONPROLIFERATION TREATY AT THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS AGREEMENT
WITH THE PRINCIPLE OF NON
PREFERRED NON PROLIFERATION OF
FOSSIL FUELS AND URGED THE
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO JOIN
INFORMALLY DEVELOPING A FOSSIL
FUEL NON PROLIFERATION TREATY I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
. THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR- FOLKS
WANT TO WIN IN SUPPORT OF THE
STR. WILL PREPARE FOR CLIMATE
ACTION CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU. HE STAYED
RIGHT IN HARMON POLICY ANALYST
WITH THE INDIGENOUS
ENVIRONMENTAL NETWORK AND I AM
SIGNED UP FOR WITNESS TESTIMONY
- ACCORDING TO THE TWENTY TWENTY
THREE IPCC REPORT FOSSIL FUELS
DEVELOPMENT AS A PRIMARY CAUSE
OF GLOBAL WARMING. KALOYAN GAS
ACCOUNT 486% OF ALL CO TWO
EMISSIONS IN THE PAST DECADE.
THE BLACK OF SIX PACIFIC NATIONS
REPRESENTING PRIMARILY
INDIGENOUS POPULATIONS HAS
CALLED FOR THE INTERNATIONAL
COMMUNITY TO JOIN THIS FOSSIL
FUEL NONPROLIFERATION TREATY AND
FOR A JUST TRANSITION AWAY FROM
FOSSIL FUELS ON A GLOBAL SCALE.
AS THE FIFTH LARGEST SUB
NATIONAL ECONOMY IN THE WORLD
CALIFORNIA HAS A UNIQUE
RESPONSIBILITY TO LEAD THE WAY
FOR THIS COUNTRY'S TRANSITION BY
ADOPTING AS CHAIR TOO. YOU CAN
JOIN THE OVER EIGHTY CITIES AND
SUBNATIONAL GOVERNMENTS ALREADY
SUPPORTING THIS CALL INCLUDING
THE CITY OF US LOS ANGELES AND
THE STATE OF HAWAII. EACH
FRACTION OF A DEGREE OF WARMING
RESULTS IN CLIMATE DEVASTATION
AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BEING
DISPLACED. EVEN THE GOAL OF THE
PARIS AGREEMENT OF CAPPING
WARMING AT ONE POINT FIVE
DEGREES CELSIUS IS A DEVASTATING
COMPROMISE THAT WILL LEAD TO
SACRIFICE THE WORLD'S MOST
VULNERABLE PEOPLE. ESPECIALLY
INDIGENOUS PEOPLES THE IPCC
REPORT SHOWS THAT EMISSIONS FROM
JUST THE CURRENT EXISTING AND
PLANNED FOSSIL FUELS
INFRASTRUCTURE. ALREADY PLANNED
WILL VASTLY SURPASSED ONE POINT
FIVE DEGREES AND WARMING CARBON
REMOVAL TECHNOLOGIES ARE NOT
ENOUGH AND ONE POINT FIVE WILL
NEVER BE ACHIEVED. WITHOUT
PHASING OUT FOSSIL FUELS AS A
RESULT INDIGENOUS PEOPLE SUFFER
DEVASTATING DAMAGES SUCH AS LOSS
OF LAND AND SACRED SITES. FOOD
SOVEREIGNTY AND CULTURE IT'S OUR
RIGHT AS INDIGENOUS PEOPLES TO
PRACTICE OUR CULTURES IN THIS
LAND AND CLIMATE DEVASTATION IS
A DIRECT THREAT TO THAT RIGHT.
CALIFORNIA HAS AMONG THE HIGHEST
INDIGENOUS POPULATIONS OF THE
COUNTRY. CALIFORNIA IS ALSO
AMONG THE STATE SUFFERING THE
MOST FROM CLIMATE DESTRUCTION AS
OUR JUDGES ARE AS A DIRECT
RESULT OF FOSSIL FUELS
DEVELOPMENT. BY ADOPTING AS
CHAIR TOO YOU CAN ADD
CALIFORNIA'S POWERFUL VOICE. TO
THE CALL THAT WE THAT WE ARE
READY FOR AN INTERNATIONAL
TREATY TO PHASE OUT FOSSIL
FUELS. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE.
AND YOUR UP HOLDING
RESPONSIBILITY TO YOUR STATE AND
TO THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES OF
THIS LAND. TO PROTECT A VITAL
PUBLIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES SO
WE ASK THAT YOU VOTE YES FOR STR
TO MIDDLE. THANK YOU FOR YOU SO
MUCH. MISTER MORNING EVERYONE-
MICHAEL BRUNE- FORMER EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE SIERRA CLUB AND
FORMER CHAIR OF THE BLUEGREEN
ALLIANCE HERE TO SPEAK- OFFER
SOME TESTIMONY AS WELL. TRY TO
SAY IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE.
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
CALIFORNIA EXTENDING ITS
LEADERSHIP ON CLIMATE AND CLEAN
ENERGY. CALIFORNIA WAS ONE OF
THE FIRST STATES IN THE COUNTRY
TO PHASE OUT COAL I'M ALMOST
DONE WITH THE JOB ALMOST ALL
COAL- THAT'S BEING USED IN THE
STATE HAS BEEN PHASED OUT OF THE
LAST FEW YEARS. CALIFORNIA'S
ALSO ONE OF THE FIRST OBVIOUSLY
TO PASS THE ROOFTOP SOLAR BILL
ONE POINT FIVE MILLION
HOUSEHOLDS NOW. USING SEWER
ALMOST COMPLETELY PHASING OUT OF
GAS. EFFECTIVELY BANNING
INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE TO
REDUCE OUR DEMAND FOR OIL THE
FULL SUITE OF POLICIES THAT
CALIFORNIA HAS ADOPTED. 100%
CLEAN ENERGY THE NET ZERO BY
TWENTY FORTY FIVE. ALL OF THESE
POLICIES HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB
IN REDUCING OUR DEMAND FOR
FOSSIL FUELS. BUT ALMOST
EVERYONE WILL RECOGNIZE THAT
SUPPLY AND DEMAND ARE LINKS. AND
FOR GOING TO CUT SUPPLY JUST
LIKE WHEN YOU NEED TO WHEN YOU
RENEW CUTTING SOMETHING WITH
SCISSORS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
SHARP BLADE. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE
CUTTING OUR CARBON WITH ONLY ONE
SHARP BLADE WE NEED TO LINK
SUPPLY AND DEMAND AND CUT THE
SUPPLY. AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE
CUT OUR DEMAND. SO THIS
RESOLUTION WOULD DO WHAT IS
OBVIOUSLY NEEDED WHICH IS TO
HAVE A THOUGHTFUL MANAGED WIND
DOWN. OF FOSSIL FUELS THE COUPLE
OF THE GREAT WORK THAT WE'RE
DOING TO REDUCE THE DEMAND FOR
FOSSIL FUELS. IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO
SIMPLY SAY WE HAVE TO REDUCE OUR
USE OF COAL AND OIL AND GAS WE
ACT ALSO HAVE TO REDUCE THE
PRODUCTION. WE WANT TO BE
EXPORTING NOT POLLUTION NOT
PESSIMISM BUT OPTIMISM AND
INNOVATION IN CLEAN ENERGY IN
THE STATE. SO LET'S PLEASE SHOW
THE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT
CALIFORNIA IS READY TO CONTINUE
TO LEAD ON CLEAN ENERGY. LET'S
PASSED SJR TWO. ONE FINAL THING.
GO AS- ALL RIGHT MANY BOMB. ALL
RIGHT- ANYWAY THE MOST FOLKS
WANT TO WIN SUPPORT. GET THE
SOLUTION IN. THE MORNING
CRISTINA SURRENDER THE CENTER
FOR. DIVERSITY STRONG SUPPORT
WITH THANKS TO THE AUTHOR. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT FIVE BOB POSITION
CONCERNS WITH. THE SECOND TAX.
MORNING MR AND APOLOGIES DIDN'T
GET OUR LETTER AND THAT WE ARE
POSTING TARGET THANK YOU FOR
YOUR IMAGE. ANYONE ELSE OKAY
LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINES STR
TO. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO. WE'RE GONNA
GO TO LINE EIGHTY THREE YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. ONE EIGHTY
THREE YOUR LINE IS OPEN. WE'RE
GONNA MOVE ON FROM LINE EIGHTY
THREE WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LINE
NINETY ONE. MORNING WOODY
HASTINGS THESE ARE POLLUTING.
REFOUNDED WITH I AM IN SECTOR
SUPPORT OF F. THIRTY ARE CUTE.
FIND ME LINE BY ONE WE COULDN'T
HEAR YOU VERY IF YOU WANTED
REPEAT THAT PLEASE. THINGS
POLLUTING PROGRAMMER WITH FOOT
CLIMATE CENTER IN SUPPORT OF THE
STATE OR TO THANK. THANK YOU
REMOVE ON TO LINE. NINE OUR OUR-
MILLER FROM POINT HAWKS IN
SUPPORT AND GO DODGERS. THERE
YOU GO FINE EIGHTY. YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. HI MY NAME IF IT
HAPPENS DIGITAL WOULD STAND
EARTH- GOING SUPPORT EVENTS J.
R. TO- SECURITIZATIONS ON EARTH
AND SIX THANK YOU. FINE EIGHTEEN
YOUR LINE IS NOW. THANK YOU THIS
IS JERRY HUGHES AMERICANS
PROGRAM COORDINATOR FILE PEOPLE
WATCH OUR ORGANIZATION IS IN
SUPPORT OF S. J. R. TWO THANK
YOU FOR. I'M GONNA GIVE LINE
EIGHTY THREE- AN OPPORTUNITY AND
THEN ZERO AGAIN PLEASE. THE
RESEARCHER THERE PARDON ME JUST
A MOMENT AGO NOW TO FIND EIGHTY
THREE. THE COMPUTER. CANNOT TALK
FOR CLIMATE ACTION CALIFORNIA
WERE VERY MUCH IN. TOO MUCH
CANNOT SECURE THERE IS NO ONE
ELSE GREAT THANK YOU SO MUCH SIS
FOR YOU BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS COMMENTS THOUGHTS FROM
THE MEMBERS. OKAY THANK YOU I
MEAN I THINK I'M- THIS IS VERY
MUCH IN LINE WITH OUR VALUES
APPRECIATE YOU BRING US FORWARD
OWN APPRECIATE YOUR FORBEARANCE
APPRECIATE. THE MOTION IN THE
INITIAL PRESENTATION FROM
SETTLEMENT AND WITH THAT I'D
LOVE TO GET READY TO CLOSE I
JUST WANNA THANK S. SENATE IN
THE MALL NOW THAT WE'RE IN THIS
ERA OF BASEBALL FOR PINCH
HITTING FOR ME- AND I ALSO WANT
TO THANK MR BRUN AND MISS HARMON
FOR- THEIR INCREDIBLE WORK
ACTUALLY THAT THE REASON WEEK I
BROUGHT THIS FORWARD WAS. MY
VISIT TO COP FIFTEEN LAST YEAR
AND WE'RE ONE OF OUR INDIGENOUS
PARTNERS SAID WHY ISN'T
CALIFORNIA PART OF THIS WHY DID
NOT WHY DO WE NOT TAKE A STAND
ON ON NON PROLIFERATION FOR
FOSSIL FUELS AND THAT WAS THE
IMPETUS FOR ME BRINGING THIS
FORWARD AND SO WITH THAT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR NAVAL
MCCARTY BODY FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU CENTER OKAY THE MOVE
BY CINNAMON CENTERPIECE KALRA
THE MOTIONS TO BE ADOPTED
CENTERS ALAN HI ALAN I'D DALY.
DAILY NO GONZALEZ. I AM SO I
LIMÓN LIMÓN I MENTIONED ARE
MENJIVAR I WHEN SKINNER SORRY
FOR. OKAY LET'S SEVENTY YOU
SEARCH REALLY BEEN ON CALL FOR
THE MEMBERS ON. LET'S ASK OUR-
COPYRIGHT COME FOR A TO BRIDGE.
ITEMS IS THIS FOURTH. EIGHT
YOU MAY BE SEATED THANK YOU VERY
MR CENTERS THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT S. B.
FOUR THIRTY EIGHT. A BILL THAT
CLARIFIES PROVISIONS FROM LAST
YEAR'S CARBON CAPTURE BILL. SB
EIGHT NINE OH FIVE. ENGINE
CALIFORNIA HAS INCREASED IN
SEVERITY AND POSES A SIGNIFICANT
THREAT AS WE ALL KNOW.
CALIFORNIA HAS LED THE WORLD TO
CREATE POLICIES THAT REDUCE
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND TO
MOVE OUR STATE TO MEET THE GOALS
TO ACHIEVE NET CARBON
NEUTRALITY. BY TWENTY FORTY
FIVE. NUMEROUS EXPERTS AND THESE
ARE THE ONES THAT I HAVE BEEN
WORKING WITH- TO INCLUDE THE
INNER GOVERNOR GOVERNMENTAL
PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE THE
INTERNATIONAL ENERGY AGENCY
STANFORD UNIVERSITY LAWRENCE
LIVERMORE NATIONAL LABORATORY UC
BERKELEY. UCLA AND CAL FOR THE
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
AGREE THAT CARBON CAPTURE
REMOVAL UTILIZATION AND STORAGE
IS A CRITICAL AND NECESSARY
COMPONENT OF SUCCESSFUL CLIMATE
ACTION. ON SEPTEMBER SIXTEENTH.
TWENTY TWENTY TWO GOVERNOR
NEWSOM SIGNED INTO LAW SB NINE
OH FIVE AS PART OF THE HISTORIC
CLIMATE PACKAGE ESTABLISHING
BREAKTHROUGH POLICY FOR C. C. R.
U. S. APPLICATION. SB NINE OH
FIVE IT IS AND IT WAS AN
ESSENTIAL ELEMENT AND COMMITMENT
TO ACHIEVE CARBON NEUTRALITY THE
BILL ESTABLISHED A CARBON
CAPTURE REMOVAL UTILIZATION AND
STORAGE PROGRAM TO EVALUATE THE
SAFETY AND EFFICACY OF CARBON
CAPTURE AND REMOVAL
TECHNOLOGIES. MAXIMIZE WORKFORCE
BENEFITS AND PROTECT FRONTLINE
COMMUNITIES BY MINIMIZING
IMPACTS THE HEALTH SAFETY AND
THE ENVIRONMENT FROM THESE NEW
INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES SINCE
THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL SEVERAL
STAKEHOLDERS AND SCIENTIFIC
RESEARCHERS HAVE ASSISTED WITH
RECOMMENDATIONS TO CLARIFY THE
INTENT OF THE SPACE SPECIFIC
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL. WITHOUT
CHANGING THE ORIGINAL DIRECTION
OR MEANING. S. B. FOR THIRTY
EIGHT SPECIFICALLY CLARIFY ISN'T
AN INTENDED RESIDUAL OIL THAT IS
EXPRESSED DURING SEQUESTRATION
IS NOT CONSIDERED ENHANCED OIL
RECOVERY. WHEN THERE IS NO OIL
PRODUCTION WELL EQUIPMENT
PRESENT THEN THAT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT THERE'S NO. WELL NO
OIL PRODUCTION WELL EQUIPMENT
PRESENT. THIS SIMPLE CHANGE
ALLOW CALIFORNIA TO CONTINUE ITS
WORK TO BALANCE EFFICIENT
PROJECT APPROVAL PROCESSES AND
THOROUGH HEALTH AND SAFETY
GUIDELINES AND REPORTING
MECHANISMS AND GIVES CALIFORNIAN
AVENUE FOR EMISSIONS REDUCTION
PROJECTS WHILE MAINTAINING OUR
STRICT ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS
AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT. THAT IF
THERE IS THE EXPRESSION OF OIL
IT GETS REPORTED TO THE
APPROPRIATE. AGENCIES AS AN AN
OIL EXPRESSION AS PART OF THE
PROCESS IT'S NOT DEAD IT'S JUST
ALLOWED AND WE CLOSE OUR EYES-
WE MONITOR IT IN IT IT'S- IT'S
PART OF THAT- C. C. R. U. S. A
PROCESS SO- WITH ME TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT IS VIRGIL WELCH FROM
THE CALIFORNIA CARBON SOLUTION
COALITION. COVERAGE OF. THE
PURSUIT THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
THANK YOU SENATOR MEMBERS FOR TO
WELSH CALIFORNIA CARBON
SOLUTIONS COALITION AS YOU HEARD
FROM THE SENDER AND AS WE HEARD
THIS MORNING- LITTLE BIT AS
WELL- C. C. U. S. IS A CRITICAL
COMPONENT OF CALIFORNIA'S
EFFORTS TO ACHIEVE OUR CLIMATE
GOALS TWENTY THIRTY- AND
SPECIFICALLY CARBON NEUTRALITY
IN TWENTY FORTY FIVE- WE HAVE.
WORLD CLASS GEOLOGY IN THE STATE
FOR THE PERMANENT AND SAFE
STORAGE OF GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE
TO OUR CLIMATE GOALS WE HAVE
DOZENS AND DOZENS OF INDUSTRIES
WHO ARE POISED TO MAKE
INVESTMENTS IN THESE
TECHNOLOGIES. WE NOW THANKS TO
CENTER CABALLERO I HAVE A
FRAMEWORK TO START TO DEPLOY
RAPIDLY THESE PROJECTS THAT WE
ARE GOING TO NEED. TO THIS BILL
BUILDS ON THAT FRAMEWORK- IT'S A
PART OF THE EFFORT- THAT WE'RE
ALL COLLECTIVELY WORKING ON TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT
FRAMEWORK IN PLACE SO WE CAN GET
C. C. U. S. TECHNOLOGIES.
DEPLOYED AND OPERATIONAL AND
CONTRIBUTING TO OUR COMMON GOALS
IN CALIFORNIA. YEP INTERNET
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISTER
MISTER CHAIRMAN THE PALES ARE K.
TO BE- WITH THIS BILL DOES NOT
DEGRADE ANYWAY THE PROHIBITION
AGAINST ENHANCED OIL RECOVERY.
THAT WAS PASSED BY SEVERAL
AMOUNT LAST YEAR THIS IS REALLY
THIS IS THE STORY OF HOW THIS
ECONOMY IS TRANSITIONING RIGHT
WHAT USED TO BE USED TO PRODUCE
OR DESTROY ALL WILL BE USED
INSTEAD TO CAPTURE CARBON AND
THEN PERMANENTLY SEQUESTER IT.
WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU MIGHT GET A
LITTLE BIT OF OIL THAT COMES OUT
THAT'S NOT TO BE PRODUCED HAS TO
BE DISPOSED OF AS A CENTER SAID
IN OUR OPENING REMARKS- SO IT
REALLY DOES NOTHING BUT MAP A
TECHNICAL CLARIFICATION OF
ESPINO FIVE AND FOR THOSE
REASONS WE SUPPORT IT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN ISRAEL SALAS WITH SOCAL
GAS AND SAN DIEGO GAS AND
ELECTRIC- IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT LET'S HEAR FROM- OTHER
FOLKS MAY BE WANT TO WIN AND
SUPPORT ME TO USE. ANY
OPPOSITION CONCERNS ABOUT THE
BILL.
CRISTINA SURRENDER THE CENTER
FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. CORRECT.
BUT BECAUSE THE PHONE LINES
ANYONE WHO HAS RAISED CONCERNS
ABOUT THE BILL. FOUR THIRTY
EIGHT. FOR REYES TO PORT FOR THE
BILL SB THIRTY FOUR THIRTY. FOR
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. WE'RE GOING TO GO
FIRST TO LINE NINETY ONE YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. FIVE THREE
STILL ONE NINETY ONE. TO GET YES
FOR THAT ARE YOU ARE ALL RIGHT
GOOD- PLEASE DON'T POLLUTING
PROGRAMMER FOR THE CLIMATE
CENTER. RESPECT POSITION TO S.
B. THREE EIGHT THANK YOU. FIND
SOME NINE YOUR LINES NOW OPEN.
MORNING KAREN MEMBERS ONLY FIVE
HUNDRED FROM TRACK PRICE BALKING
ON OF THE ASIAN PACIFIC AND BY
NETWORK RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE. STE
BY NINETY FIVE YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. HELLO EVERYONE WITH
AROUND. CARE CLUB CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION ABOUT THE FOUR THIRTY
EIGHT THANK YOU. SECURE THERE IS
NO WENT OUT TO SIGNAL THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK LET'S BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS
COMMENTS THOUGHTS SENATORS US.
YES THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR- AND
SENATOR CAFIERO EIGHT I FIRST
WANT TO THANK YOU KNOW YOU AND
CENTER LAMONT HAVE BEEN WORKING
ON- THIS ISSUE FOR THE LAST YEAR
WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER
ON THE CLIMATE PACKAGE SO I
THINK YOU FOR THAT FIRST AND
FOREMOST BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT
YOUR INTENTIONS ARE HERE. I DO
WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE- THE
OPPOSITION AND WHAT THEY ARGUE
IN TERMS OF AND I HAVE QUESTIONS
TO US TO THE BROADER IMPACTS AND
OUT LIKE WHAT THRESHOLDS- WOULD
BE CONSIDERED ACCIDENTAL OR
INCIDENTAL OIL BECAUSE I THINK.
THE QUESTION IS- AND I THINK THE
OPPOSITION LINED OUT AS WE
UNDERSTAND THAT CARBON CAPTURE
IS PART OF OUR FUTURE WE
CERTAINLY WANT TO BE PART OF OUR
FUTURE BUT- KNOWING THAT AT
SCALE AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT
TO YOU KNOW MAYBE TWO TO FIVE
TEN YEARS YOU KNOW WE'RE GONNA
HAVE A LOT OF CARBON CAPTURE
PROJECTS POTENTIALLY- WHAT DOES
THIS. WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE
AND I'M JUST AFRAID THAT. I
AGREE WITH THE OPPOSITION THAT
AT SOME POINT- WORKING UP
ACCIDENTAL OIL. LEFT AND RIGHT
AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR
THE COMMUNITIES IMPACTED AND
ALTHOUGH THEY DO HAVE TO REPORT
THIS OUT. I'M JUST WONDERING YOU
KNOW IF YOU CAN ADDRESS YOU KNOW
WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE IN AND
HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO
SAFEGUARD- ARE COMMUNITIES.
PRECIADO YOU BOTH AND LIKE BOTH
BOTH OF US KEPT UP. WITH IT
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION I
APPRECIATE. APPRECIATED VERY
MUCH- B. THE BILL IS A- BILL.
SOME OF THE OPPOSITION IS YOU
SIMPLY WE DON'T LIKE CARBON
CAPTURE AND IT'S STILL THE SAME-
BATTLE. BUT BUT THE ISSUE OVER.
YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT'S THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FALL FOR
FIRST OF ALL IS THAT WHAT WE
SAID IS THAT THE IF THERE'S NO.
EQUIPMENT TO TAKE THAT OIL AND
TO USE IT. THEN THE NUMBER ONE
IT'S A IT'S INCIDENTAL. OUGHT TO
THE CARBON CAPTURE. NUMBER TWO
IS IT THERE'S A REGULATORY
AGENCY ALREADY THAT DETERMINES
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S BEEN
AN OIL SPILL AND WHAT HAS TO
HAPPEN IN MITIGATION. AND- AT
WHAT POINT. AB OF THE EVENT OF
AN EXTRACTION IT'S GONE WRONG
FOR EXAMPLE AT WHAT POINT THERE
IS LIABILITY AND THAT THERE'S
QUESTIONS AND PENALTIES AND
THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WE'RE NOT
CHANGING ANY OF THAT- AT ALL THE
AGENCY HAS THE ABILITY. TO
REGULATE AND TO- IT TO REGULATED
TO PENALIZE I GUESS IS THE BEST
WAY TO PUT IT- ANY OIL PRODUCERS
THAT IS- THAT IS X. OIL AS PER.
OF AN EXPRESSIVE OIL AND NOT
HAVING IT GO INTO THE RANKS
RIGHT SO THE QUESTION BECOMES DO
WE THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE. A
NEED ARE A HIGHER NEED FOR
REGULATORY OVERSIGHT I THAT MAY
BE BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW-
UNTIL WE START ACTUALLY DOING
THE PROCESS AND- AND CAN GET A
GOOD GOOD IDEA OF WHETHER WE
NEED SOMETHING ABOVE AND BEYOND
WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. WHICH SAYS
THAT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T AB OIL
THAT IS IN CONTROL IT'S NOT
GOING INTO A PROCESS- WITHOUT
THERE BEING- AND IT AT
INSPECTIONS AND- AND OVERSIGHT
AND PENALTIES IF IT IS DAMAGING
THE ENVIRONMENT. SO I'M NOT
SAYING WE WAIT I'M JUST SAYING
THAT THIS BILL DOESN'T ADDRESS
THE SPECIFICS BEYOND WHAT WE
ALREADY HAVE IS A FRAMEWORK FOR.
FOR MANAGING THAT THAT PRODUCT.
OKAY THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING
THAT I STILL. THINK WE'VE TALKED
VERY BRIEFLY BUT I STILL HAVE
CONCERNS WITH WHAT THIS MAY LOOK
LIKE IN THE FUTURE AND- I
PERSONALLY BELIEVE IT KIND OF
LENDS TO A BIT OF A LOOPHOLE
AND- FINANCIALLY YOU KNOW.
PROVIDING MORE LEEWAY FOR THIS
TECHNOLOGY THAT'S YOU KNOW STILL
. STILL BEING FIGURED OUT AT
THIS POINT AND I UNDERSTAND THE
COMMITTEES AND GOOD WORK IN
ENSURING THAT THERE'S
TECHNICALITIES THAT HAVE BEEN
STRAIGHTENED OUT- BUT THAT'S YOU
KNOW WHERE I STAND NOW SO I WILL
BE LAYING OFF THE BILL. AND THEN
SEEING WHERE THIS GOES AND WOULD
LOVE TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH
YOU ON THIS THANK YOU VERY GOOD
THANK YOU SO MUCH. CENTER FOR
THE FILES QUESTIONS. MOTION
MOVED BY THE DALAI- TELL YOU
RECKLESS THANK THANK YOU VERY
MUCH- SURE ALLEN. LET ME JUST
SAY THAT. YOU KNOW THE PROCESS
WOULD BE. A LOT EASIER. IF
PEOPLE WOULD COME TO THE TABLE
AND EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND
THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO
WRITE IT IN BECAUSE I'M MORE
THAN HAPPY. TO LOOK AT WHETHER
IT WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE
NEED TO DO FOR OVERSIGHT. BUT
WHEN IT'S THE SAME OPPOSITION TO
A TECHNOLOGY JUST ON PRINCIPLE.
BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T AND I AND
THIS IS NOT IN REGARDS TO
ANYBODY'S COMMENTS BUT- BUT IT
MAKES IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO
FOR TODAY LOOK INTO THE FUTURE
FOR SEE WHAT. WHAT KINDS OF
THINGS WE NEED TO DO THERE'S NO
QUESTION THAT I AM INTERESTED IN
PROTECTING THE PUBLIC. MEETING
OUR GOALS. AND AS PART OF THAT
ENSURING THAT WE HAVE A WORK
FIRST A TRAINED READY TO GO AND
CAN CAN DO THE WORK THAT'S-
BEDSIDE NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THIS
AND- PART OF TRAVELING TO OTHER
COUNTRIES TO SEE HOW THEY DO
THINGS. IT'S IT GIVES US THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW IT
OPERATES HOW IT WORKS. AND WHAT
WE'RE NOT DOING- IN OUR OWN
COUNTRY AND I KNOW OUR OWN
STATE- AND WILL WILL SOON LOSE
OUR LEADERSHIP ROLE IF WE'RE IF
WE DON'T KEEP UP WITH WHAT'S
WHAT'S GOING ON SO LET ME JUST
SAY THAT. I'M I'M MORE THAN
HAPPY TO DISCUSS AT WHAT POINT
DOES IT BECOME DIZZY EXPRESSION
BECOME MORE THAN AN EXPRESSION
AND THAT IT'S A LIABILITY IN
THERE SHOULD BE- SOME ACTION
TAKEN. UP IT'S MY BELIEF THAT
THAT THE STATE REGULATORY-
ENTITY HAS THAT OVERSIGHT AND
LAW. AND HAS THAT ABILITY TO
REACT BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT
SPECIFICALLY. AND AND BEEF IT UP
IF WE NEED TO I'M- I'M COMMITTED
TO HAVING THIS WORK. NOT TO
CREATING AN ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD
IN SO- THIS IS THIS WAS
DISCUSSED LAST YEAR IT DIDN'T
END UP IN THE BILL- BECAUSE
THERE WERE SOME SEVERAL
OVERSIGHTS AND SO- THAT'S WHY
IT'S BACK. THIS. YEAR AND SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. THE YOU ALL RIGHT LET'S
LET'S. THEM IS TO PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE CENTERS
ALAN HI FELLOW. VALLEY DALLI
ICONS. LIMÓN RAMON HI. MENJIVAR
MENJUAL ARE I WHEN I SKINNER.
FIVE CURRENT. THANK YOU FOR ZERO
BELIEVE COFFEE YOU THANK SO MUCH
. I SEE CENTER LAYERED HERE
THANK YOU. FOR COMING BACK AND
EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A
DIFFICULT NEGOTIATION. THE
PROCEDURE YOUR RETURN THIS IS
AND TEN MEMBERS ON IN TEN SB
FIVE SIXTY IN YOUR JANICE THANK
YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND ALERT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER CHAIR
AND MEMBERS- SENATE BILL FIVE
SIXTY THAT WOULD EXTRAPOLATION
EXTENDED PRODUCER
RESPONSIBILITY. PROGRAM FOR
SMALL GAS CYLINDERS UNDER TWENTY
POUNDS AND TO BACK UP FOR SECOND
ONE WHEN I WAS SECRETARY FOR
NATURAL RESOURCES. THE BIG
PROBLEM WAS IDENTIFIED THAT
PEOPLE ARE ABANDONING THESE
AFTER YOU SAID BEACHES ALL
ACROSS CALIFORNIA I SEE IT AT
THE BEACH IS IN MY DISTRICT AND
I ACTUALLY RECORDED. A PUBLIC
SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. TO ASK
PEOPLE TO SAFELY DISPOSE OF THE
MEN IT WAS STUPID BECAUSE WE DID
IT ON A BEACH AND WE ONLY HAD
TWENTY SECONDS TO DO IT TYPE
BEFORE WAVE WOULD BREAK AND SO
IT TOOK US FOREVER TO TYPE THE-
OF PSA BUT IT HAD MEANING. AND
SO SENATOR WHITE HOUSE SKI
ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS THIS LAST
YEAR AND GOT A BILL ALL THE WAY
TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK. THAT HE
VETOED BECAUSE IT WAS AN
ABSOLUTE BAN AND THE GOVERNOR
SAID IN HIS VETO MESSAGE THAT
YOU SHOULD LOOK IN THE DIRECTION
OF EXTENDED PRODUCER
RESPONSIBILITY. THAT'S WHAT THIS
BILL DOES THAT AND SO WE HAVE
HAD TO PUT IN THE BILL A PLAN
WHILE WE ARE IN FACT NEGOTIATING
WITH PEOPLE AND IT'S A CHICKEN
AND THE EGG. BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT
TO SEE A PLAN TO MOVE A BILL.
BOUGHT WE WANT TO NEGOTIATE TO
AND HAVE BEEN IT WHAT PEOPLE CAN
LIVE WITH IT IN AS DIFFERENT
STAKEHOLDERS AND SO THERE MIGHT.
BE A DESIRE TO HAVE MORE
SPECIFICITY BUT WE WANT HAVE
SPECIFICITY AFTER WE NEGOTIATE
WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND
THERE'S A MEETING TOMORROW. THAT
INCLUDES. EXTENDED PRODUCER
RESPONSIBILITY ONE OF THE- AND-
STAFF IN WHICH WE WANT TO TAKE
THE NEXT STEPS. TO GET TO
SPECIFICITY THAT WE NEED TO WORK
THIS OUT IN A CHICKEN AND THE
EGG BECAUSE- SOME PEOPLE THINK
IT'S NOT IN THEIR INTEREST TO
NEGOTIATE BUT IF THE BILL MOVES.
THEN THEY THINK WE HAVE TO
NEGOTIATE AND IT BRINGS THEM TO
THE TABLE AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE
TO GET THERE. RIGHT NOW. THE
BILL ADDRESSES THE VETO MESSAGE
BY ESTABLISHING THE PROGRAM FOR
CYLINDERS UNDER TWENTY POUNDS.
IT GOES FURTHER EXPANDS THE TYPE
OF GAS CYLINDERS TO BE COVERED-
IN THE PROGRAM TO PROPANE
HELIUM. ISOBUTENE AND BOUTAIN.
AND AS THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
POINTS OUT THERE'S ITEMS THAT
STILL NEED TO BE WORKED OUT
BETWEEN MY OFFICE IN THE PRIMARY
STAKEHOLDERS. AND AS I SAID
BEFORE THIS VEHICLE THIS BILL IS
A VEHICLE FOR THOSE CONTINUED
NEGOTIATIONS AND SO- I DO NOT
HAVE A MAIN SUPPORT WITNESS WITH
ME TODAY BUT THERE STAKEHOLDERS
WHO HAVE TAKEN A SUPPORT AND
CONCEPT POSITION. AS WE MOVE
THIS BILL LONG THEN I WOULD JUST
ASK FOR YOUR FAVORABLE MOVEMENT.
AS A STATEMENT THAT WE WANT TO
NEGOTIATIONS AND WE WANT TO WORK
THIS OUT AND WE WANT TO GET TO A
SOLUTION THAT MEETS THE
GOVERNOR'S. VETO MESSAGE SO I
WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASKS FOR AN
IPHONE. FOR THE CENTER- PRECEDED
. ALL RIGHT LET'S HEAR SO YOU
DON'T HAVE A- SUPPORT WINDOWS
BUT I KNOW- SIDE THAT ANYONE
ELSE WANTS TO WIN THE SUPPORT
YEAH. HE'S GONNA BE OPPOSITION
TO. I'M JUST GUESSING. WELL I
REALLY HOPE IS OPPOSITION FOR
NOW WELL FOR NOW YEAH EXACTLY
HE'S NOT. HE'S NOT YET-
CALIFORNIA PRODUCT SEARCH OF
COUNSEL IT'S ALWAYS ASSOCIATION
OF NORTH AMERICA LESS SAFE TASK
FORCE STOP WAYS AND WESTERN
CLASS RACE MANAGEMENT ALREADY
WERE ON SUPPORTING CONCEPT.
REALLY APPRECIATES OUR LEVERAGE
OFFICE AND COMMITTEES WORK ON
THIS WE WERE FOR CALIFORNIA
PRODUCT STEWARDSHIP COUNCIL THE
SPONSORS THAT BILL FOR THE WHITE
HOUSE PEOPLE LAST YEAR. AND WE
REALLY HAVE DONE A LOT OF EPR
BILLS- IN THE PAST FEW YEARS
LESSONS LEARNED FROM PROGRAMS
THAT HAVE FAILED. AND SO WE
REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THIS IS ACCESSIBLE A PROGRAM TO
ENSURE THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS NO
LONGER HAVE TO BEAR THE COSTS
BUT THAT IT'S CONVENIENT. FOR
FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THESE
PRODUCTS BACKED AND TO ENCOURAGE
YOU KNOW CONSUMERS TO GO TO YOU
KNOW IDEALLY REFILLABLE BUT THAT
THEY ARE NO LONGER IN THE TRASH-
SO WE HOPE THAT THERE'S AN EPR
MODEL THAT SIMILAR TO AB TWO
FOUR FOUR ZERO BY IRWIN- BUT
UNDERSTAND THIS IS A DIFFERENT
PRODUCT. AND THAT WE NEED TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS- AND- THE INDUSTRY
TO ENSURE HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT
THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT
SUCCESSFUL FOR THIS PARTICULAR
PRODUCT SO. LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE AND THE SENATOR'S
OFFICE ON THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS
. THANK YOU GREAT THANK YOU.
JOHN KENNEDY FOR RCA- ALLOWED TO
ALLOW OF PERSONAL IS CALM. AND
FIREWORKS FOR THE BILL THE
CYLINDERS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE FOR
US TO MANAGE AND ARE HHW
COLLECTION FACILITIES- OFTEN
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO KNOW
WHETHER THEY ARE EMPTY OR NOT
WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE TO BE
MANAGED AS HAZARDOUS WASTE- AND
SO. WE SUPPORT EFFORTS LIKE THIS
PROGRAM- TO ENSURE THAT
MANUFACTURERS TO INTRODUCE THESE
MATERIALS INTO THE STREAM OF
COMMERCE BEAR SOME
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR
MANAGEMENT COLLECTION AT THE END
OF THE DAY- WE WERE. SAD TO SEE
THAT LAST YEAR'S BILL WAS VETOED
BUT LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING AND
MAKING SURE THIS IS A ROBUST.
PRODUCE RESPONSIBILITY FRAMEWORK
THAT WORKS THANK YOU. FOR KRISTA
WATER WITH WESTERN PROPANE GAS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. I JUST
WANNA MAKE A QUICK COMMENT THAT.
THE PROPANE INDUSTRY IN
CALIFORNIA HAS HAD A
LONGSTANDING STEWARDSHIP PROGRAM
FOR OUR BARBECUE BOTTLES. AND WE
SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE AS AN
EXTENSION OF OUR ON GOING
ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP. THANK
YOU. GREAT MR WORTHINGTON NO.
MIKE MICROBES HERE ON BEHALF OF
WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES SO-
TONIGHT HERE IN SUPPORT AND
CONCEPT OF MY HERE IN OPPOSITION
EITHER AND THEN AND I ACTUALLY-
CENTER LEARN HOW TO ACT IT HAD A
REALLY GOOD OPENING STATEMENT
AND SAID A LOT OF. WHAT NEEDS TO
BE SET ON THE SUBJECT- YOU KNOW
WE WILL. WHERE IS THE LARGEST
PRODUCER OF GAS PRESSURIZED GAS
OWNERS OF ALL SIZES IN IN THE
COUNTRY AND- AND THOSE OF YOU
WHO WERE IN THIS COMMITTEE LAST
YEAR AND IN THE LEGISLATURE LAST
YEAR REMEMBER THAT. ALL THROUGH
THAT THAT WHITE HOUSE CASKEY
BILLS LEGISLATIVE PROCESS- I
CAME UP AND SAID YOU KNOW WE GOT
IT IS THE BETTER SOLUTION TO ANY
PR SOLUTION YOU KNOW BANNING A
PRODUCT IS NOT A SOLUTION. AND
AND SO YOU KNOW THANKFULLY THE
GOVERNOR VETOED THAT BILL
BECAUSE IT WAS A BAD BILL- AND
SO WE WANT. A LEGISLATOR TO TAKE
THIS ISSUE UP AND DO IT IN THE
PR FOR APPROACH AND WE WANT TO
WORK FOR CENTER LAYERED IN THE
OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO DO SO
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT
NEED TO BE INVOLVED CENTER
LEXINGTON STATEMENT. THERE'S
OTHER PRODUCTS BECAUSE YOU KNOW
YOU CAN'T JUST DO EPR THIS IS A
UNIQUE PRODUCT IS NOT LIKE
BATTERIES. YOU KNOW IF YOU IF
YOU DO GAS YOU CAN'T JUST DO
PROPANE GAS YOU GOT TO DO THE
OTHER THINGS ISOBUTANE THINGS
BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST
GONNA BE PRODUCTS WHICH ISN'T SO
YOU HAVE TO. BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT
IT TAKES SOMETIMES CAN TAKE SOME
EFFORT- I THINK SANDLER'S RIGHT
AUTHOR FOR IT I THINK THIS
COMMITTEE IN YOUR COMMITTEE
STAFFS ARE THERE ARE THE RIGHT
PEOPLE TO BE WORKING ON IT- I
WOULDN'T BE ADVERSE TO THIS
BEING A TO YOUR BILL JUST. SO
EVERYBODY KNOWS BECAUSE I THINK
IT TAKES IT IT'S GOING TO NEED
SOME TIME AND WE CAN'T JUST
RUSHES THROUGH. SO THAT SAID WE
ARE MEETING FOR THE FIRST TIME
TOMORROW AND I APPRECIATE THAT
AND- AND- YOU KNOW THERE'S WAYS
TO THERE ARE MODELS ON THIS IN
IN CANADA AND I THINK WE HAVE A
LOT OF INFORMATION TO. BRING TO
BEAR FOR THE FOLKS WHO WHO WHO
VOTED THIS COMMITTEE AND FOR THE
COMMITTEE CONSUMPTION FOR
CARRIZAL. SO LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH PEOPLE AND- KEEP
YOU POSTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
MAY THINK YOU PERSONALLY. YES
SIR YOU. HAVE SOME CONCERT. FREE
YES- GOT MORE MY NAME IS JOE.
SINCE ANOTHER PRESIDENT OF
LITTLE CAMPER PRO. WE ARE MAY.
OF WESTERN. GAS SO. IN THE NOW.
PROBING ASSOCIATION. HERE IN
SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL FIVE
SIXTY. THIS BILL IS LONG OVERDUE
RELIEF FOR THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA. IN THE- COST AND.
CONSEQUENCE EXCUSE ME- OF. HILL
CYLINDERS BEING LEFT IN
RECREATION DESTINATIONS- THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT WAS WITHIN THE
MEANS OF. THE LEGISLATION AND
OBVIOUSLY. ON THE INTENTION FOR
THE STATE OF ADDRESSING THIS
PROBLEM- OUR COMPANY HAS BEEN
WORKING ON THIS PROBLEM FOR
YEARS AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD
TO SEEING THE WORK OF THE- LATE
SENATOR AND SEEN THIS BILL
THROUGH TO. BECOME LAW THANK YOU
SIR FRAZIER ALL RIGHT I WAS
BECAUSE THE PHONE LINES OTHER
FOLKS YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON
THE BILL SAYS THAT SB FIVE
SIXTY. ON THE PHONE LINES WATER
. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR THOSE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO PRESS ONE AND ZERO. MISTER
CHAIR WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE
SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK
JUST A MOMENT PLEASE WILL BE
PROCESSED AND THROW.
AGAIN WE APPRECIATE YOUR
PATIENCE JUST ANOTHER MOMENT.
AS A REMINDER IF YOU HAVE NOT
SPOKEN BEFORE THE YOU WILL BE
ACCESS BY AN OPERATOR WILL
PROVIDE YOU WITH YOUR LINE
NUMBER. JUST A MOMENT. WELL GO
TO WINE EIGHTY EIGHT YOUR LINE
IS NOW OPEN. HEY COREY BROWN ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WASTE AND SUPPORTING CONCEPT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LINE NINETY
SEVEN YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
MORE ACRE ON BEHALF OF RETHINK
WASTE AND WE JUST WANT TO ALIGN
OUR COMMENTS WITH THE CALIFORNIA
PRODUCT STEWARDSHIP COUNCIL OR
WITH THE SPORTING CONTENT
POSITION THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MISTER CHAIR THERE IS NO ONE
ELSE. OKAY LET'S GO BACK TO THE-
COMMITTEE S. SENATE ALL. FIRST
OFF I JUST WANT TO SAY- EMILY
OFF THE BILL BECAUSE THERE'S
REALLY NOTHING TO THERE'S A
POLICY NOW AND WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT TO THIS AUTHOR WHO I
THINK WILL DO A GREAT JOB WITH
THIS BILL AND I BELIEVE I'LL
PROBABLY BE IN A SUPPORT WHEN
YOU GET SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE
THAT WE ACTUALLY CAN LOOK AT. I
JUST WANNA SEE YOU KNOW. AS A
FRUSTRATION AS THE VICE CHAIR OF
THIS COMMITTEE. THAT WE'VE SEEN
SO MANY BILLS WITH AMENDMENTS AT
THE LAST SECOND WHEN WE DON'T
REALLY KNOW THERE'S A POLICY
COMMITTEE. AND WE SHOULD BE
DOING POLICY HERE AND IT'S VERY.
THIS SERVING I THINK TO THE
PUBLIC AND TO US MEMBERS WHO ARE
TRYING TO I MEAN I CHANGE MY
VOTE ON A BILL TODAY BECAUSE
I'VE GOT SOME NEW INFORMATION
THAT WAS LIKE REALLY LAST
SECOND. AND I THINK THAT I JUST
WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT
BECAUSE I AM GETTING FRUSTRATED
WE AND I WILL JUST SAY THAT
SENATOR STERN HAD SO MANY BILLS
THAT WERE I HAD NO IDEA WHAT'S
GOING ON WITH THE BILLS. AND
THAT'S UNFAIR TO THE MEMBERS AND
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT
COMMENT. NOTHING AGAINST US
AUTHOR I HAVE TOTAL CONFIDENCE
AND I'LL- GET TO A POINT WHERE
WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE A GOOD
BILL WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING
NECESSARY BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE
THAT STATEMENT. FOR THE CHAIR
AND OTHER MEMBERS WHO. MAY OR
MAY NOT BE FEELING FRUSTRATED
WITH THIS AND I'VE SEEN IT IN
MANY COMMITTEES AND I JUST WANT
TO BRING THAT POINT UP IT'S VERY
FRUSTRATING. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR COULD I SPEAK TO THAT FOR
SECOND COURSE. OF BECAUSE- AS I
SAID IN THE STATEMENT- WE WANT
TO NEGOTIATE AND WE WANT TO PUT
IN THE BILL. WHAT ALL SIDES
BELIEVE IS A PATH TO THE
NEGOTIATIONS THAT SO WE DIDN'T
HAVE SIGNIFICANT THINGS IN THIS
BILL AND THE COMMITTEE SUGGESTED
THEY WANTED A FORMULATION THAT'S
OF THAT'S WHY YOU GOT THE
AMENDMENT AT THE LAST MINUTE. TO
BE RESPONSIVE AND TO PUT
TOGETHER A STRUCTURE EVEN THROW
IT AS MR ROBESON SORT OF HINTED
THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO YOUR BILL.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A TO YOUR BILL
THERE'S NO PRESSURE FOR PEOPLE
TO NEGOTIATE TO TELL NEXT
JANUARY AND SO WE WANT TO KEEP
THE NEGOTIATIONS WE GAVE A
FORMULATION FOR YOU TO LOOK AT.
WHAT WE WANT TO GET SOMETHING
THAT EVERYBODY AGREES WITH. AND
THAT'S RUINED UP AND THAT'S WHEN
YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE YOU WON'T
PLAY OFF. AND YOU WILL VOTE FOR
THE BILL. WHAT I JUST WANNA SAY
THIS IS AGAIN NOT DIRECTED AT
YOU. AT ALL BUT IT'S JUST A
COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO SAY
THAT IS VERY FRUSTRATING. AND I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN'T GET A
NEGOTIATED SENATOR CAPITO JUST
BEFORE SAID YOU KNOW HER THE
ISSUE HAS OPPOSITION HER BILL.
AND THEY WILL COME AND GO SHE
WITH HER. I UNDERSTAND THAT PART
OF IT. BUT. DUE TO THE DAY WE'VE
SEEN MANY. BILLS COME FOR THAT
ARE LIKE. WHAT KIND I'M TRYING
TO FIGURE WHERE WE'RE GOING.
WELL IF YOU HAVE POLICY DON'T
HAVE A- IN THE PUBLIC SHOWS UP
HERE. FOR A POLICY DISCUSSION IN
A POLICY COMMITTEE SO I. I GET
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I KNOW THAT
THEIR SOMETIMES HAVE TO FORCE
THE ISSUE. THAT MEANS PASS
SOMETHING. ON THIS BILL.
PARTICULARLY WE- SENATOR Y.
CASKEY WORKED ON THIS BILL WE
KNOW THE PROBLEM LOOK WE ALL-
DOLLAR DOCTOR ANY OF THE
PROBLEMS- BUT IT IS BILL
BASICALLY JUST BAND. HE IS WE
COME DOWN TO THE TO POUND IT WAS
BETWEEN ONE TWO POUNDS. I GET
ALL THAT. BUT MY COMMENT IS
DRESSED NOT JUST AT THE AT THIS.
PIECE OF LEGISLATION BUT MANY
PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT I
THINK YOU KNOW IF YOU APPROVE
THIS PIECE. WITH THE AMENDMENTS
I WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE
GOVERNOR. IT WOULD WORK. HOW WE
WANT TO GO. WITH SOME OF THE
PEOPLE THAT TESTIFIED FEELING
LIKE IT WORKS FOR THEM. ADVANCE
TO PROCESS IT IS STILL ON GOING
. WELL I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
WHERE I'M COMING FROM I WAS
HOPING THE CHAIR. UNDERSTANDS
WHERE I'M COMING FROM AND OTHER
MEMBERS. THIS IS. I PICKED YOU
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE TOUGH AND
YOU'RE GOOD. AND I BUT I'VE BEEN
GETTING SOMEWHAT FRUSTRATED
WITH. THE NEGOTIATIONS APPAN
HOUSE WERE IN THE HEARING. ON
AMENDMENTS WITH BILLS. AND THIS
IS NOT RIGHT. WELL I AM WITH SO
MUCH. RESPECT MISTER I SURE I
YOU KNOW THE- YOU'VE BEEN YOU'VE
BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE I MEAN I
THINK YOU KNOW THAT- THESE ARE
HARD NEGOTIATIONS YOU GOT LOTS
OF DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS
EVERYONE'S GOT DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVES PEOPLE OFTENTIMES
PUSH THINGS TO THE LAST MINUTE
FOR ON PURPOSE- YOU KNOW- AND-
THE- THE- THE TRUTH IS THIS IS
THE FIRST POLICY COMMITTEE.
WHICH IS PART OF A LEAD YOU
KNOW. PART OF THE VERY BEGIN
SESSION- AND- I GET YOU KNOW I
IT'S- THERE'S A CERTAIN DEGREE
OF- CREATIVE CHAOS INVOLVED WITH
TRYING TO PULL TOGETHER
DIFFICULT PIECE OF LEGISLATION I
MEAN ALL YOU KNOW ALL I CAN
OFFER YOU IS. AN ABSOLUTE OPEN
DOOR ALWAYS ANSWER YOUR
QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ISSUES OR
CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAY THINGS
ARE PROCEEDING- BUT I DON'T KNOW
THAT THERE'S- A IN THIS WE
TOTALLY REVAMPED THE SYSTEM I'M
NOT SURE THERE'S A- KIND OF A
READY SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM
YOU'RE RAISING WHICH IS. YOU
KNOW THAT. THERE'S TO BE A
CERTAIN DEGREE MESSINA AND AGO
SHE ATION SO. WITH THAT. BILLS
AT THE PA COMMITTEE LEVEL AT
FIRST. HEARING I. YOU KNOW I.
IT'S PART OF WHY WE GO THROUGH
SO MANY STAGES RIGHT WE DO YOU
KNOW IS GOING TO GO TO NEXT
COMMITTEES CAN GO TO THE FLORIDA
COME BACK AND GO TO THIS HOUSE
GOING TO COME BACK YOU HAVE A
SEVENTY TWO HOUR RULE AND HE'S
GONNA BE IN PRINT- AND THAT
THERE'S SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO
WIN OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
FOR TWO YEARS- SO I DON'T I
SHARE YOUR FRUSTRATION AS WELL
BUT THE FLIP SIDE IS I DON'T.
KNOW I DON'T I DON'T SEE IT- I
THINK IT'S UNREALISTIC TO ASSUME
THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE EVERYTHING
TIED UP WITH THE BOW EVERY TIME
WE HAVE A BILL COME BEFORE
COMMITTEE AND I WILL SAY. TO
THIS I MEAN THIS AUTHOR KNOWS
WELL WE'VE ACTUALLY MET TWICE.
THE WE HAVEN'T JUST GIVING HIM A
PASS AND SAID HEY YOU KNOW WE-
YOUR FRIEND WE KNOW YOU'RE GONNA
DO THE RIGHT WORK AND WE WE'VE
WE'VE BEEN CRUSHING HIS OFFICE
QUITE A QUITE A BIT TO GET US.
MORE SPECIFICITY TO LEARN ABOUT
EXACTLY WHAT THE PLANS HOUSING
DEVISING IT WHAT SORT OF
CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING WITH
THE STAKEHOLDERS OF COURSE WE
WENT THROUGH THIS. INTENSELY ON
PREVIOUS CPR BILLS. SO WE KNOW
WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT- AND SO I
DON'T. AND I THINK YOU JUST
AUTHOR HE WOULD HE WOULD
DEFINITELY SAY THAT THE OTHER
SPENT QUITE A BIT OF ENGAGEMENT.
NOW I'M- NOT ALL OF IT YOU KNOW-
AND- NOT ALL THAT WARM AND FUZZY
RIGHT. SO BY NO MEANS- AND
SAYING THAT IT. HAS TO BE
PERFECT. I'M JUST. AND THIS IS
TOTALLY NOT TOWARDS THIS
AUTHORED ALL. IT'S JUST IN
GENERAL- YOU KNOW THERE WAS
TIMES. IN THIS BUILDING WHEN
WILLIE BROWN SAID. YOU'RE GONNA
COOK THE BILL BEFORE. HE MADE HE
MADE YOU. HAVE LANGUAGE IN YOUR
BILL BACK IN THE DAY. I'M JUST
SAYING WE WILL BE HAVING DONE A
PATH WHERE. I MEAN I HAVE NO
IDEA TO HELD IN THESE BILLS.
EMILY TELECOM COMMITTEE I'M
TRYING TO. GET WITH MY
CONSULTANT AND- AGAIN. I HAVE
HELPFUL TOTAL FAITH IN THIS
AUTHOR TO GET THE JOB DONE BUT
I'M TELLING YOU THERE'S MANY
TIMES AND I JUST WANNA. I WANNA
BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT'S- VERY
FRUSTRATING SAID HERE. AND TRY
TO. ACTUALLY DO THE RIGHT THING
I LOVE THIS CASE MY FAVORITE
COMMITTEE. AS I ACTUALLY DO WANT
TO THE WRITING THERE FOR THE
ENVIRONMENT. BUT I CAN'T IF I
DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DEALING WITH
THAT'S MY FRUSTRATION I JUST
WANT TO MAKE IT. IF I CAN CLOSE
THIS DISCUSSION BY HAVING SOME
FUN WITH SENATOR DAHLE GLORIA-
ONE OF THE BILLS THAT BOUND US
TOGETHER. WAS THIS YEAR
CONSERVANCY BILL. HE WAS. HE WAS
ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF
ONE OF THE ONLY COUNTY. IN THIS
YEAR THAT SUPPORTED THE BILL.
AND I ALWAYS SAID I WOULD DIE
AND GO TO HAVE BEEN SINCE PEOPLE
IN THE SIERRA OPPOSED IT. IF
SOMEBODY GOT ELECTED TO THE
LEGISLATURE THAT HAD SERVED ON
THE BOARD FOR MANY YEARS AND
THEN EMBRACED IT. THAT IS
SENATOR DOLLY. AND WHEN I
BROUGHT THE SIERRA CONSERVANCY
BUILT TO THE FIRST THREE
COMMITTEES. ARE WAS NEGOTIATING
MORE SENATOR LESLIE TO HAVE A
BIPARTISAN BILL AND IT WAS NOT
FULLY COOKED. AND THEN WE HAD A
HISTORIC AGREEMENT THE BILL'S
NAMED AFTER BOTH OF US NOW.
BECAUSE WE ALLOWED IT TO MOVE
AHEAD. AND HAVE THOSE
NEGOTIATIONS AT THAT'S HOW YOU
GOT TO SERVE FOR SIX OR EIGHT
YEARS ON THE BOARD BECAUSE WE
ALLOW THAT PROCESS TO UNFOLD AND
THAT'S JUST. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR
HIM JUST TO PUT THIS TO REST. I
JUST I'LL I'M ONE OF THOSE
LEGISLATORS WHO WILL CALL OUT
SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS NOT
FAIR. AND THEIR MANY MIGHT.
PEOPLE ON MY SIDE ALL THAT MAY
NOT HAVE THAT. THE BETTER OFF TO
SEE IT BUT I WANT TO SAY IT
BECAUSE- IT'S FRESH. AND I NOT
ONLY THIS COMMITTEE THE ENERGY
COMMITTEE AND I'M TELLING YOU
THERE SOME AUTHORS TO AND IF
THEY WERE HERE. I WAS WAITING
FOR MY OPPORTUNITY BUT THEY
DON'T SHOW OF DEVEN OUGHT TO
HAVE THEIR OWN BILLS. AND SO I
JUST WANT TO SAY YEAH AND IT
NEEDS TO BE SAID. SO I'M GONNA
SAY IT BECAUSE IT IT'S- NOT
FAIR. IT IS AND I KNOW THAT
THERE'S A PROCESS WE HAVE TO GO
THROUGH. BUT I WOULD LIKE A
LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENCY DO NOT
HAVE TO SIT HERE AND TRY TO
FIGURE OUT. ON MOST BILLS TODAY
WHAT THE HELL'S IN THE BILL
THAT'S ALL THAT'S I'M JUST GONNA
SAY IT AND I APPRECIATE. THE
WORK AND I THINK I HAVE THE
RESPECT OF THE OF THE- PEOPLE ON
THE OTHER SIDE OUT BECAUSE I DO
WANT TO WORK HARD AND I SHOW UP
TO THESE COMMITTEES I'M NOT ONE
THAT DOESN'T COME TO COMMITTEES.
I COME. I READ THE LEGISLATION I
READ THE BILLS. AND I TRY TO DO
WHAT'S RIGHT. JUST WANT TO SAY
THAT YOU AND- I LOOK FORWARD TO
BE ABLE TO. SUPPORT THIS BILL
WHEN IT GETS COOKED. IF THE USER
IS AN ANIMAL KIND OF SENTIMENTS
FOR ONCE UPON. ISN'T MIGHT
MIGHT. I WILL JUST SAY DO YOU.
THAT YOUR SENTIMENT YOU'RE NOT
WRONG. THE SENTIMENT YOU JUST
EXPRESSED I THINK IS SHARED BY
MANY PEOPLE ON THE U. Q. STUFF.
AND IN OUR OFFICE. IT'S A
CONSTANT. CHALLENGE WE HAVE-
WITH AND I WILL. I WILL
REITERATE YOUR MESSAGE TO THE
WORLD AND TO AUTHORS AND STAFF.
YOU KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO
BE- FRUSTRATION AND PUSH BACK
FROM OUR COMMITTEE. IF YOU'RE
COMING. TO OUR- OUR COMMITTEE
WITH WITH. A HALF BAKED OR OR-
QUARTER BAKED. BILLS WE
UNDERSTAND IT'S AN INTER PROCESS
AND HE'S A WORKS IN PROGRESS AND
WE WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME
LATITUDE TO DO THE WORK YOU NEED
TO DO BUT- YOU KNOW. WE AUTHORS
HAVE COME IN. RUN INTO PROBLEMS
THIS SESSION. BECAUSE THEY'VE
COME TO THIS COMMITTEE- WITH.
YOU KNOW. WEAK SAUCE BILLS AND
WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE PUSHING
BACK AND DIVE YOU'RE GIVING ME
MORE COURAGE TO PUSH BACK
FURTHER- SENTIMENTS ARE- CENTER
DOLLY YOU KNOW ON THE OTHER SIDE
OF AYE- AYE AGREE WITH YOU AND
MAKING SURE. I CAN ALSO HELP
GIVE YOU THE COURAGE TO PUSH
BACK BECAUSE- I SAID IN THE
FIRST COMMITTEE HEARING- I DON'T
WANT HEADLINES. IT'S HARD FOR ME
TO VOTE ON HEADLINES AND- I WANT
TO MAKE SURE I'M VOTING FOR
THINGS THAT ARE FLUSHED OUT AND
SENATOR YOU MENTIONED THAT IF
THIS WERE TO PASS IN THE
GOVERNOR WOULD SIGN IT TOO WHEN
IT WOULD WORK. I WANT TO PUSH
BACK ON THAT I DON'T THINK IT
WOULD WORK. BECAUSE WE DON'T
HAVE THE PLAN OF HOW IT WILL
WORK. RIGHT SO I'M GONNA GIVE
YOU SOME RESPECT THEY GAVE TO
THE FIRST AUTHOR WHO PROPOSED AN
INTENT. BILL BECAUSE NOT WE'RE
NOT HERE TO SAY I HAVE AN IDEA
WE'RE HERE TO SEVEN IDEA TO HAVE
A PLAN. ON THE IDEA- BUT- BERMAN
RESERVE MY RIGHT FOR THE FLOOR
TO CHANGE MY MIND AND I HOPE.
THAT YOU PUT EFFORT. SORRY I
THINK ABOUT YOU ARE PUT IN
EFFORT I HOPE- THAT IT CONTINUES
TO BE FLUSHED OUT BECAUSE- MY
QUESTION THE CHAIR IF THE
MEETING. SOMEONE SAID THAT THE
FIRST EVER MEETING THE HAPPEN IS
TOMORROW WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE
HEARD THIS NEXT WEEK. WITH
PERHAPS MORE FLESHED OUT.
INFORMATION LET ME- PETER-
INTERVENE IN THAT THERE'VE BEEN
PLENTY OF CONVERSATIONS GOING
ON. FIRST MEETING WITH THE
COMMITTEE STAFF. AND THE PARTIES
IS TOMORROW THERE BEEN LOTS OF
DIFFERENT ITERATIONS AND I
THINK. I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THIS
CONVERSATION. BECAUSE I'M IN
THE- POSITION AS A COMMITTEE
MEMBER. OF THE OTHER WAY. BUT
THE NUANCES. THAT IF SOMEBODY
DOESN'T WANT TO AGREE. AND THEY
HEAR THAT SOMEBODY WILL VOTE
NOTE OF A MEDIA FUTURE STOP. IT
GIVES THEM LEVERAGE TO NOT
PARTICIPATE IT NOT TO GO SHE
SAID AND SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN
BY THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG. WE
ARE DETERMINED. TO NEGOTIATE WE
ARE DETERMINED. TO GET A GOOD
BILL. EARLIER IN THE PROCESS
THAT WILL MOVE. BUT WE HAVE. TO
DO THAT IT WOULD OF PROCESS
WHERE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE I MEAN I
FEEL VERY LUCKY. I'VE BEEN HERE
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TO
DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS AND
THERE'S CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT
THINK I WILL RUN THEM OVER. IF
THEY DON'T AGREE AND SO IT'S
ENOUGH TO BRING THEM TO THE
TABLE BUT WE ARE PARTNERS IN
THAT. IF YOU VOTE TO MOVE THIS
BILL TODAY YOU'RE SUPPORTING
THAT IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE THINK
I HAVE TO COME TO THE TABLE AND
I HAVE TO WORK THIS OUT. I BE
VOTING. IS IT IS A- SOME OF THE
FIRST THOUGH. I REALLY LOOK
FORWARD TO THE FIRST DOLLY
MENSCH OF OUR BILL. IT'S GOING
TO MAKE MY YEAR. OKAY- I AM
HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO
PUT OUT TODAY BUT IF IT'S
IMPORTANT TO YOU SENATORS AT THE
PERSON NEXT WEEK THAT'S FINE
WITH ME I KNOW THE CHAIR THE
AUTHORS LIKE A LIKE A THE AUTHOR
KNOWS HOW FRESHLY WE'VE BEEN
WITH THE LACK OF PROGRESS BUT
THERE'S NOT OF THEIR MAKING MUCH
OF A DIFFERENCE BUT- A DIFFERENT
DEBATE. NEXT WEEK BECAUSE TO BE
A MEETING AND THAT ONE CARD SOME
PEOPLE NOT TO BE FORTHCOMING IN
THE MEETING. IT'S IMPORTANT TO
GET IT OUT AND TO HAVE THAT
DISCUSSION WHEN IT GETS TO THE
FLOOR. OKAY ALL RIGHT- SO
WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT
LET'S. YOU KNOW I'M I'M I'M
HAPPY TO MOVE FORWARD I'M ON THE
VOTE TODAY IT'S BEEN MOVED BY
SENTIMENTS OF OUR- FOR THE GUYS
ARE GONNA ANIMATED DISCUSSION I
REALLY APPRECIATED IT HALF AND-
THEN OPENED. ANYBODY THAT HAS
ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THIS AS WE
MOVE ALONG THANK YOU CENTER
THANK YOU OKAY ALL RIGHT. LET'S
CALL THE ROLL. MOTIONS TO PASS
TO THE DID JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
CENTERS ALLEN HI WELL IN AYE.
DALY OF. DALY NO. NOT VOTING
PARDON ME THAT WAS MY- GONZALEZ
. I GONZALEZ I LIMON. LIMON HI
MEN'S OF OUR- MINDS OF OUR AYE
WHEN. SKINNER HAS FOR. OKAY ALL
RIGHT LET'S GO AHEAD- SO. AND.
WHAT IS PROPER AND- TIME. GIVE
DIFFERENT. DID OKAY WHAT WHAT
WHAT BRAND FINISHING UP A JUST
IT WAS POLITICAL CALLS. LISTLESS
AS I AM WHEN I. THIRTY TWO. FIVE
FILE ITEM ONE SB THIRTY TWO
SHARED VOTING VICE CHAIR BY THE
WELL. THERE'S ALL THIS NO. WHEN
I SKINNER OKAY I DON'T TO SB
THREE OH EIGHT. JERRY LAI BY
SEVERINO GONZALEZ HI FRIENDS ALL
AS I WHEN. WHEN NO SKINNER.
SPACKENKILL OKAY I'M GONNA WE'RE
GONNA LIVE CALLS LATER CAN I
KNOW YOU GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE BUT
I BURKE WE NEED TO GET GOING ON
THIS NEXT TO BILL SO WILL WILL
MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE
OPTION TO ADD ON LATER ON. AFTER
THAT OKAY. ALL RIGHT I AM
CHAIRING YOU BETTER WATCH OUT
BEEN ALLEN. I KNOW IS THE
PATTERN OF THE RUNNING BILLS YOU
KNOW COMMITTEE. FOR NOW IT'S
DAHLE COMMITTEE. SO OKAY WHAT I
WANT TO THANK YOU. SHARE DOLLY-
AND TO THANK THE MEMBERS. THAT
AND I DO WANT ALSO JUST GIVE A
SPECIAL THANKS TO ERIC- FROM OUR
COMMITTEE STAFF WE REALLY STUCK
IN DEEP ON THIS ISSUE IT'S NOT
AN EASY ONE THE LTFS IS
COMPLICATED WE HAD A GREAT. TIME
DEEP DIVE- YOU KNOW INCLUDING
ONE FOR THE ENTIRE U. Q. STAFF
AND IF YOU WANT. LTFS ONE OH ONE
ERIC'S GOT THE PRESENTATION I'M
SURE HE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT
TO YOUR OFFICE BECAUSE HE- WAS
REALLY LEARN A LOT TOGETHER ON
THIS PROCESS- I ALSO LEARNED A
LOT WHEN I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY
TO TRAVEL WITH SOME OF YOU
INCLUDING CHAIR LAYARD FROM THE
CLIMATE WORKING GROUP WHO LED A
GROUP DOWN. TWO CENTRAL VALLEY
WENT TO MERCED AND- AND- THAT
WITH SOME TULARE COUNTY
RESIDENTS AND FUNCTION PIXLEY
SOME OF THEM ARE REPRESENTED
HERE TODAY. THEY WANT TO TALK TO
US ABOUT THE IMPACTS THAT- THAT
NEARBY I MEGA DAIRIES. I HAVE
BEEN HAVING ON THE LOCAL- WATER
. AND AIR QUALITY AND THEIR
FAMILIES HEALTH. SO WE WERE
FOLLOWED AT SOME THAT WASN'T BIG
SURPRISE- YOU KNOW HOW TO. TIME
HI BONTA FARMS MYSELF- BUT BUT
WHAT I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR
ABOUT WAS. ABSENT PRETTY
PERNICIOUS STORIES ABOUT
CONTAMINATED DRINKING WATER-
FRIGHTENING HEALTH COMPLICATIONS
RESULTING FROM INDUSTRIAL JERRY
POLLUTION. I'M AND I'M ALSO I'M
I'M- YOU KNOW I'M SURPRISED TO
HEAR ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH-
WE WERE HEARING ABOUT HOW THE
STATE'S ELSIE FEST PROGRAM MIGHT
ACTUALLY BE MAKING THE SITUATION
WORSE. THAT WAS THE REAL. AND IF
AHA- REALIZATION HIT ME SO BACK
IN TWENTY SIXTEEN THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED CENTER LARS
SB THIRTY THREE WHICH WERE AIMED
AT REDUCING SHORT LIVED CLIMATE
POLLUTANTS LIKE METHANE
EMISSIONS- WE KNOW ABOUT THIS
PROGRAM. HERE IN THIS COMMITTEE
. AND THE MEASURE CALLS FOR A
40% REDUCTION IN METHANE
EMISSIONS BUT ALLOWS DAIRIES. TO
COMPLY- BY GENERATING L. CFS
CREDITS IF THEY USED AYE
GESTURES TO CAPTURE NEW ORCHARD
DERIVED METHANE. THAT WOULD
OTHERWISE ESCAPE. INTO THE
ATMOSPHERE. WHILE SOME ARGUE
THAT THIS COMPROMISES BENNETT
SIX US BECAUSE AT LEAST SOME OF
THE MISSIONS. HAVE BEEN CAPTURED
AND USED TO OFFSET MORE
POLLUTING. FUELS A WHOLE SET OF
OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN
RAISED. ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
THIS IS RESULTED IN SOME
PERVERSE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
SO FOR EXAMPLE- SINCE CARP
ALLOWS LIVESTOCK AND DAIRY. I'LL
SEE IF S. PATHWAYS TO BASE THE
CARBON INTENSITY OF THE FUEL
THEY GENERATE. SOLELY ON AVOIDED
EMISSIONS. IGNORING OTHER
EMISSIONS GENERATED ON SITE.
THESE FUELS APPEAR- INCREDIBLY
CARBON NEGATIVE UNDER THE
FORMULA. MEETING AT THE DERRY
DIE JESTERS PROVIDE THE
OPERATORS WITH SIGNIFICANTLY IN
- A SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANT HIGH
NUMBER OF LUCRATIVE CREDITS TO
SELL. NOW THIS IS RAISING
CONCERNS OF THESE FACILITIES ARE
NOW GROWING AND CONSOLIDATING IN
AN EFFORT TO GENERATE MORE MORE
CREDITS. AND WHILE GREATER
PARTICIPATION THE PROGRAM MAY
APPEAR TO BE HELPING THE STATE
MEET OUR CLIMATE GOALS WE CAN'T
IGNORE THE COSTS NOR THE IMPACTS
. AND IN A WHILE THERE'S SOME
DEBATE OVER WHETHER THE AUSSIE
FOSSE'S ENCOURAGING GROWTH THERE
DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY DEBATE
ABOUT THE FACT. THAT ISN'T IT
YOU KNOW IT'S LEADING TO SOME
GREATER CONSOLIDATION. AND
YOU'RE GONNA HEAR SOME FOLKS
TODAY. ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPACT
THAT CONSOLIDATION SEEMS TO BE
HAVING IN- IN THIS HALL NEARBY
COMMUNITIES. SO YOU INSURE THAT
WE ARE MEETING OUR CLIMATE GOALS
. I TO AVOID EXACERBATING
INEQUITIES RESULTING FROM THE
COMMENSURATE WATER AND AIR
POLLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH.
MEGADETH DAIRIES IT'S TIME THAT
WE TAKE A CAREFUL LOOK. THE
PRODUCTION GREATER AMOUNTS
CENTER ALLEN FIELD JUST I HAVE
TO GO OUT ON THEIR DONE AGO
CORESITE'S- I'M GONNA PASS AS
THE GAVEL TO. MEANT TO MY
PARTNER OVER HERE YES. YES I
KNOW I'M LOOKING I'M A CO AUTHOR
YOU JOIN. HELLO IT. IT'S A
BEAUTIFUL THING- THANK YOU THANK
YOU THANK YOU PART. SO I'M- SO
IF YOU KNOW IT'S OUR IT'S OUR
SENSE THAT WE NEED TO START TO
TAKE A CAREFUL LOOK AT THE
PROGRAM. TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE
NOT PERSONALLY ENCOURAGING THE
PRODUCTION OF GREATER AMOUNTS OF
POLLUTION FOR FINANCIAL GAIN AND
WE'RE NOT AND WITH ANY KIND
WITTINGLY. DISINCENTIVE RISING
BETTER CLEANER ALTERNATIVES SO
HERE'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO
THIS BILL. IT TAKES A THREE
TIERED APPROACH TO ENSURE THE
PROGRAMS ACTUALLY MEETING ITS
INTENDED GOALS. FIRST THE BILL
REMOVES THE INCENTIVE FOR DAIRY
OPERATORS TO EXPAND THEIR
FACILITIES- WHICH YOU KNOW IS
CREATING. ARGUABLY CREATING MORE
AIR WATER METHANE POLLUTION
SIMPLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SFS
CREDITS. HI AND SECOND THE BILL
ASK CARP TO CONDUCT. A MORE
COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF THE
FULL EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH
THESE OPERATIONS TO ENSURE
REDUCTIONS CREDIT TO THE PROGRAM
ARE ACTUALLY REAL. AND THEN
FINALLY. THE BILL REMOVES A
STATUTORY GUARANTEE THAT ALLOWS
DAIRY FACILITIES PRODUCING THE
PROGRAM TO RECEIVE LC OF CREDITS
FOR TEN YEARS. REGARDLESS OF
WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IN THE
STATE'S BEST INTEREST. AND TRULY
REDUCES POLLUTION. SO
CONSIDERING THE OUTSIDE
GREENHOUSE GAS POLLUTION
GENERATED BY THE DAIRY AND
LIVESTOCK SECTOR CALIFORNIA'S
CLIMATE GOALS. MAY SLIP OUT OF
REACH OF PRODUCTIONS CREDIT TO
THESE FACILITIES ARE NOT REAL
AND SCIENTIFICALLY SOUND. ALL
THIS BILL IS TRYING TO DO IS.
YOU TAKE A STEP TOWARD ENSURING
THAT WE'RE GETTING IT RIGHT. AND
I HAVE WITH ME TODAY SOME FOLKS
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
FIRST WE HAVE. MY IDEA IDEA LOW
WHO IS A RESIDENT OF PIXLEY AND
ALSO IF YOU BE SEEN WITH THE
LEADERSHIP COUNSEL FOR JUSTICE
ACCOUNTABILITY- I- SO MARTY
MANY- IS GOING TO I THINK GIPSON
TESTIMONIES. AND I'M NOT A
TRANSLATOR PHOEBE SEVEN
TRANSLATE. USUALLY WE DO HERE AT
THE MIKE. ALL OF THE MONEY THAT
. YES WHICH THINGS AROUND A
LITTLE. I'M GONNA GO FOR BBC
ENGLISH COUNCIL FOR AND- WE ARE
CAN BASED OUT. ORGANIZATION
BASED IN THE SAN JOAQUIN AND
COACHELLA VALLEY'S. WE ARE
JOINED BY RESIDENTS OF THE SAN
JOAQUIN VALLEY WHERE LARGE
DAIRIES ARE GETTING LARGER WILL
STATE SUBSIDIZED INFRASTRUCTURE
EXPANDS TO TURN MORE MANY OR
INTO GAS ENVIRONMENTAL CREDITS
AND PROFITS. PROPONENTS AND
BENEFICIARIES OF FACTORY FARM
GAS TALK ABOUT THEIR WIN WIN
INDUSTRY. WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE
TO TALK ABOUT IS THE LOSERS.
LARGE AND GROWING DERRY'S
POLLUTE THE AIR AND SOME STUDIES
SHOW THAT DIE JESTERS
THEMSELVES. EXACERBATE AMMONIA
EMISSIONS ODORS AND FLIES KEEP
WINDOWS CLOSED AND PREVENT
FAMILIES FROM ENJOYING A MEAL OR
A GAME OF CATCH OUTSIDE.
NITROGEN FROM MANURE LEACHES
INTO GROUNDWATER POLLUTING
DRINKING WATER FOR DECADES THE
VAST MAJORITY OF GROUNDWATER
POLLUTION FROM DARIUS COMES FROM
LAND APPLIED YOUR- DIGEST ST THE
MATERIAL THAT COMES OUT OF IT
AYE JESTER HAS JUST AS MUCH
NITROGEN AS UNDIGESTED MINORE.
AND JUST LIKE ROMAN OUR IS
APPLIED TO LAND AND CONTRIBUTES
TO CONTAMINATION. MARK HOUSE
MEANS MORE AIR POLLUTION MORE
GROUNDWATER POLLUTION PERIOD.
AND ALL IN THE MOST COMPROMISED
AIR BASIN AND HYDROLOGIC REGION
OF THE STATE. WELL OUR ACCESS TO
DATA IS LIMITED BASED ON AGENCY
PRACTICES OF REDACTING
INFORMATION ABOUT HER SIZE
AMADOR PRODUCTION. AND LOCAL
LAND USE POLICIES THAT ALLOWED
AREAS TO EXPAND A LITTLE
OVERSIGHT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW
AND TRANSPARENCY WE SEE A
PATTERN OF BIO GAS
INFRASTRUCTURE HAPPENING. NEAR
IN TIME TO DAIRY EXPANSIONS ONE
PROJECT THAT GENERATES CREDIT
FOR THE LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARD
IDENTIFIED SEVERAL. ASSOCIATED
DAIRIES IN MERCED AND STANISLAUS
COUNTY OF THOSE DAIRIES AT LEAST
SEVEN RECENTLY EXPANDED. ISLAND
FARMS INCREASE THEIR HERD SIZE
BY ABOUT TWO THOUSAND ANIMALS
VIEIRA DERRY BY ONE THOUSAND
FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY. AJ
BARBA AND OLIVERA BUT OVER TWO
THOUSAND AS WELL. THE
INCREMENTAL INCREASE. IN OF OVER
TWO THOUSAND COWS GENERATES THE
SAME AMOUNT OF WASTE AS A CITY
OF ABOUT A MILLION PEOPLE.
CALIFORNIA'S LOW CARBON FUEL
STANDARD CAN PROVIDE A PATH TO
UNFETTERED PROFIT FROM ANYWHERE
IN GAS MANUFACTURERS OR CAN GET
US CLOSER TO REACHING OUR
CLIMATE JUSTICE SCHOOLS. BUT IT
CAN'T DO BOTH. THIS BILL MOVES
THE PROGRAM TOWARD THE LATTER
THANK YOU SENATOR ALLEN AND
MEMBERS I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
AYE VOTE. THANK YOU THANK YOU
FOR. WHEN WAS THE S. I MEAN MY
ENABLE BINGO THEY BECAUSE OKAY
MY NAME IS MY DATA TO AND I'M
TEXAS. AB BE THE BASICALLY. IN
THANKS HERE THEY ANYA. I'VE
LIVED THERE. FOR FORTY SEVEN.
HOWEVER DO THE WHOLE DO YOU HAVE
THAT SPEECH OF YOU. I IT IN
SPAIN- TO GERMANY JUST OKAY SIR
WEBER OKAY ROGER. WHEN THERE
WILL BE A BIG PART ONE OF THIS
YEAR THE ANNUAL YET THE END OF
THAT THEY MAY MONEY THAT COME ON
. OF THE COMMITTEE THE FIFTH
OLDEST BUT I WHEN HE- THE BEES
ON THIS PROBLEM THE QUANTUM. AND
. THREE
AND I'M THE CLOSEST AND SEAN IS
YEAH OF THAT AMOUNT ON MUST
ACCOMPANY THAT. SEPARATE WOMEN
I'M ON YANKEL LIQUOR MY OTHER
HIGH STEEL CORNERS A LOT CA
HELLO THIS FLIP THE HELLO DINA.
IF THEY SEND ME THEN THEY'LL
PILOT YEAH I'M OF MOSCOW. IF
SOMEONE PRESENT BY A CO THERE
NOT BUT- A LADY IS A THIS YEAR
THE CINEMA. IT BUT IT WILL THAT
YEAH MOSCOW. YOU ON BOTTOM MAN
THEY MAY HOLD POLITICAL HALF
THAT THEY SOMETHING SENT THE
BLESSED BY ACQUITTAL THIS AND
GOT BANK.
BECAUSE THE LOTUS CARE LIST
OTHER MAYBE THEM THE LESS
INCIDENTS AND PEOPLE'S. ECKSTEIN
CONTAMINANT ON MAYBE ON THE
INTAKE EVAN MONTH ON MY FEDERAL
MONEY THAT. ONE IS ON THE VCSEL
BALTIMORE NOT. LAST MONTH HELLO
YES THE NEW CD'S EF THREE. APNEA
IN LAFAYETTE MILA IF INFORMATICA
BUNDLE ME LOOK FOR MORE IS NOT
ON THE SEE CAN. YOU'LL MEET MAMA
NEED FOR THE NINETIES HANG ON
ONE NEED ONLY BUT IF SAYING. NOT
TO GET BOTTOM OF CUT GONNA
MOCKING THE STEEP CODE I WILL IT
ALL IN AND I. LET ME MOST ALL
TOLD US AND I KNOW CHECK YOUR
CHOI AS IT APPLE THEY AND IT'LL
NOT BE THAT MUCH SO MANY BECAUSE
WITHIN A BIT RUSTY ANAKIN AT THE
SECURE IF SOMEONE ANOTHER ALMOST
A THAT'S WHEN I. LONG CONCERNED
.
THEY SENT THEY WILL ASK WHAT
THAT MEANS THAT MANY- YET THE FM
MONTHLY THAT IT MATHIS AND
UNIQUENESS IF IT'S IN THE LIVING
ISN'T THIS WHAT HAPPENED MONTH A
LOT ON TO YEAH UP I MEAN CONTENT
MEANS WHICH IS LESS. STANDS BILL
IS IN THE UPPER IF ANYONE IS HE
TO PROVIDE TO ME TOO AND SUPPORT
PLEASE STEP FORWARD. IN A RETURN
TO THE BACK TO THE VICE CHAIR.
DURING THAT. TRY YEAH- AB I
APOLOGIZE WE HAVE TO GO BACK THE
AUTHOR GONNA TRY ALL THAT
ENGLISH OKAY SO MY- ENABLE US
FOR PIXIE BENEFITS SEVEN SHE'S
REPRESENTING ORGANIZATION.
CALLED THE DEFEND FORK AND- FOR
CLEAN WATER CLEAN AIR SHE'S OUT
PEOPLE TO SUPPORT US SEVEN OH
NINE- THIS IS A PLEASE IS BY TWO
SEVEN- SEVEN THAT TO THE NORTH
AND THEN THERE'S A DIGEST OR
ABOUT ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF
IT'S CONTAMINATING. THE AREA
WITH ITS EMISSIONS- IT'S MAKING
HER COMMUNITY SICK. THE FOOD
SMELLS OF AMMONIUM- BURNT
RUBBER. YOU COMMON YOUR THAT THE
SMELL IS REALLY STRONG
ESPECIALLY. WHEN IT'S HOT
THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF FLIES- TO
EUROPE'S PROPOSING BILL- THAT'S
LOOKING TO PRINT FOR MARK- YOU
KNOW WITH WITH MORE RULES
RELATING TO INCENTIVES ABOUT THE
PROD THE PRODUCTION OF METHANE
GAS. THESE INCENTIVES RIGHT NOW
ARE BEING USED TO EXPAND AND THE
EXTEND THE THAT THE NUMBER OF
COWS THAT ARE PRODUCING MORE
MATURE AND MORE METHANE GAS IN
THE AREA- BUT THE DIGESTERS THAT
THE STATE IS PROMOTING ARE ALSO-
CONTAMINATING THE ENVIRONMENT
AND MAKING PEOPLE SICK IN THE
COMMUNITY. WITH BLOG PULMONARY
ISSUES ASTHMA OR ALLERGIES
SINUSES I SLEEP APNEA SHE TALKED
ABOUT HER HER SON IS TWENTY SIX
AND THEN- HER- YET THOSE- THIS.
GREAT GRANDSON TEN OF COURSE-
THE USING- YOU KNOW THEY THEY
ACCEPT TO USE MACHINES TO HELP
THEM SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF
THE ERRORS BY THE HAVING
TROUBLE. BREATHING AND THIS IS
THE REALITY THAT SHE AND SO MANY
OF OUR OF OUR FOLLOWS- COMMITTEE
MEMBERS ARE ARE ARE DEALING
WITH. THEIR ISSUES OF ARSENIC
TCP- THEN AND SHE WAS SHE WAS
JUST TALKING ABOUT ABOUT- YOU
KNOW ALSO ABOUT NOT HAVING
SUFFICIENT CLEAN WATER- FOR THE
COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF THE
CONTAMINATION IN THE IN THE IN
THE WATER. SO THIS IS WITH. THEN
SHE WAS TOLD AFP PROP UP UNTIL
SHE SAID THIS IS WHAT WE'RE
DEALING WITH IS THIS AND THIS IS
BASICALLY OUR CHILDREN SHE'S
HERE. FIGHTING FOR CHILDREN OR
FOR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU-
ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO- COME IN
SUPPORT NAME AND ASSOCIATION
PLEASE. UNSYSTEMATIC NOT W.
STRATEGIES HERE ON BEHALF OF
ANIMAL LEGAL DEFENSE FUND IN
STRONG SUPPORT- I'VE ALSO BEEN
ASKED TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT FOR
FRIENDS OF THE EARTH. AT THREE
FIFTY BAY AREA THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. EXT STEP RIGHT UP. GOOD
MORNING EVERYBODY ARRESTED
AFTER. HELLO MY NAME SEVEN ARE
SELDOM ARE I AM FROM TULARE
COUNTY THE COMMUNITY OF PIXLEY
AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING
TO US THIS DAY- I AM COMING WITH
SOMETHING THAT'S NOT PROBABLY
NEAR TO MANY OF US THAT WE ARE
ALL IN. WITH LIFE LIBERTY AND SO
THE WRITERS AND ENABLE RIGHTS
AND FOR LIFE LIBERTY AND THE
PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. WE'RE HERE
TODAY- YOUR NAME AND THEN YOUR
SOLICITATION OR YOUR- JUST DID.
MR OF PLEASE OKAY HELENA SELDOM
AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF. OF STATE
SENATE BILL SEVEN ON THANK YOU
THANK YOU. I AM IMPRESSED SNOW
INTO THE KILO I HAD TO HAVE BEEN
HAVE AN INHALER I AM IN SUPPORT
. IS THAT THE RIGHT ONE. I AM IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. I HAVE TO
USE THIS AS WE CAME IN TO PICK
PIXLEY THIS MORNING THANK YOU
THANK YOU. WELL BURGER FOR THREE
FIFTY SACRAMENTO IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. WHEN ASSEMBLY ME
NUMBER IS MONEY ALONE AT THE
MOMENT THIS. DEVIOUS DAVEY WHERE
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT
BECAUSE I'VE GONE THOUGH THAT
THE BLOODY. YOU FORGET THAT KEEP
THEM IN BUT AREN'T QUITE YET
GIVE ME CALL ME THAT. THE LADY
LEFT SCENE THOSE WOMEN. IN PLUS
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HELLO GOOD
MORNING RECALL MASON REGISTERING
FOR THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
SO ALSO REGISTERING SUPPORT THE
CENTRAL COAST ALLIANCE UNITED
FIRST IS THIS DATEABLE KANEMI
THE CENTER ON RACE POVERTY IN
THE ENVIRONMENT MUSE FOR A
BETTER ENVIRONMENT AND
PHYSICIANS FOR SOCIAL
RESPONSIBILITY LOS ANGELES THANK
YOU THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MADDIE
OLIVEIRA AND I SUPPORT THIS
BILL. M. FROM TULARE COUNTY
THANK YOU. MY NAME'S BENJAMIN
I'M ALSO SUPPORTING THE BILL I'M
OBSESSED OFF FROM CLARA COUNTY.
JAIL OKAY. I MEAN. HELLO MY NAME
IS A RODRIGUEZ I LIVE IN
PLYMOUTH CAL WHICH IS IMMERSED
COUNTY THE TOWN THEY GOT FLOODED
IN JANUARY. I AM SUPPORT OF
SENATE BILL SEVEN NINE AND I AM
PRO ARE YOU GUYS IS HELP TO GET
IT THROUGH THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
MY NAME IS RITA RODRIGUEZ SAID I
AM ALSO FROM PALLOTTA CALIFORNIA
MERCED COUNTY FIRST OF ALL I
WANT TO THANK THE SENATORS WHO
HAVE. VISITED OUR COUNTIES AND I
DO SUPPORT THE BILL OF SB SEVEN
OH NINE AND WE DO ASK VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR HELP THANK YOU THANK
YOU. YOU CAN MOVE THAT MIKE DOWN
IF YOU WANT TO. HELLO I'M
KATHLEEN RANDALL I'M ALSO FROM
PLAN NOT A CALIFORNIA I LIVE-
ONE MILE AWAY FROM THE DAIRY SO
I REALLY. WANT TO SUPPORT- S. B.
SEVEN OH NINE THANK YOU THANK
YOU. HELLO SARITA METIS POLICY
ADVOCATE WITH LEADERSHIP COUNSEL
FOR JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY
FOR MERCED COUNTY IN SUPPORT OF
SB SEVEN AND NINE THANK YOU
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON KYLE
JONES POLICY LEGAL DIRECTOR WITH
COMMUNITY WATER CENTER IN STRONG
SUPPORT SB SEVEN NINETY THANK
YOU. HI GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME
IS JOSEPH I WAS SILENT AND I
SUPPORT THE BILL. SEVEN OR NINE.
THANK YOU DO YOU HELP US AND
WHAT THE PROBLEM WE HAVE. THANK
YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU. I MLRS
OUR REGION POLICY MANAGER WITH
LEADERSHIP COUNCIL ON MY SUPPORT
SB SEVEN NINE WE URGE YOU FOR
YOUR SUPPORT AS WELL THANK YOU
THANK YOU. KATIE VALENZUELA ON
BEHALF OF THE CENTRAL VALLEY AIR
QUALITY COALITION THE CENTRAL
CALIFORNIA ASTHMA COLLABORATIVE
AND AS A KID WHO GREW UP IN THE
VALLEY WITH ASTHMA URGING YOUR
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN BARS
JENNIFER FEARING AS A CALIFORNIA
RESIDENT M. AS A PROUD MEMBER OF
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR
LEADERSHIP COUNSEL FOR JUSTICE
AND ACCOUNTABILITY THANK YOU
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
CRISTINA SURRENDERED THE CENTER
FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. ILANA
MEREDITH- WITH LEADERSHIP
COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF CLEAN WATER
ACTION OFFERING A STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. LESLIE MARTINEZ WITH
LEADERSHIP COUNCIL BUT ALSO VERY
PROUD SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY
RESIDENT LIFELONG- IN SUPPORT OF
SB SEVEN OR NINE THANK YOU. I
MEAN AMERICANS WILL NOT LET
ANYONE. THAT IS SO THAT BEARD
THAT BEASTLY. CONDUCTED YOU
APPROVAL OF PROPOSITION IS HAVE
BEEN HIT THIS LITTLE. MOVIE
THANK YOU. THE NAME IS LEVIN. OF
FIRST COUNTY. AND I HOPE FOR YOU
SUPPORT FOR SEVEN OH NINE. THANK
YOU. BURYAN ARSON FROM SANTA
NELLA CALIFORNIA AND FULL
SUPPORT OF THE AREA SB SEVEN OH
NINE THANK YOU. THE SEATTLE
ALMOST ANDERSON WITH SOMETHING
THEY LARA HAS GONE OUT OF THE
MEASURE SAID MOST IMPORTANTLY.
SERVICE THE CEREMONY IS MORE
IMPORTANT THE BOTTOM ASSAULT.
FOR MOST PEOPLE LUCK ON THE
MONDAY CONSIGNEE I SEE A THE
NORTH ONE. IT MOVED A LITTLE
CIRCLE SAYS HELLO AND THE BY THE
HOUSE LEVEL OUT AND THE EAST IT
NEVER YOU. US ON THE RECALL
TRICKLES AND ALL HE CAN ALSO
NOT- FOR HIM THOUGH A LOT WANNA
BE LESS IN THE START COLEMAN THE
I THINK ON THE BY IT WAS A YOU I
HARRIS. BEEN EVEN THOUGH INSTEAD
OF A HERI RAN HE GETS EVERY DAY
USE THAT THE YOU AT IN YOUR OWN
BACKYARD THAT I. THEY WILL
WISHING TO OUR ENGLISH. THANK
YOU FOR TEST. ANYONE ELSE IN
SUPPORT. WE'RE GOOD WE GOT THANK
YOU. OKAY THOSE WHO WISH TO IN A
- PLEASE LISTEN. OKAY GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MA'AM OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS SAM WITH
COALITION FOR NEWMAN AYE GAS.
WHERE THE NATIONAL IS FOR THE G.
AND IS HAD HERE IN CAL. WE HAVE
OVER. FIFTY MEMBER COME ACROSS
THE R. G. SUPPLIED. WE SB NINE
IT BECAUSE CALIFORNIA EXISTING
METHANE. AS THE COULD ANALYSIS
RIGHT THE LOW CARB FUELS TO IS
SUCCESSFULLY DRIVING DEPLOYMENT
OF AREN'T YOU PROJECTS AT
DERRY'S BUT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE
OF A PERVERSE INCENTIVE TO GROW
HERD SIZES TO PRODUCE MORE ARE
IN G. WHAT IS EMPIRICALLY
OBSERVABLE IS THAT METHANE
EMISSION LEVELS FROM A NEWER
MANAGEMENT AT CALIFORNIA FARMS
ARE GOING DOWN. AS THE STATE
INTENDS. WE DIDN'T GET YOUR
EASILY DEVELOPING A FRAMEWORK
FOR DERRY DIE JESTERS OF THE
STATE REQUIRED MORE THAN TEN
YEARS OF INPUT FROM ACADEMIC
EXPERTS. EXTENSIVE PUBLIC
PROCESS A CARB AND CDFA AND
SMART LEGISLATION IN THE FORM OF
SENATE BILL THIRTEEN EIGHTY
THREE. WHICH GUARANTEED AT LEAST
TEN YEARS ACCREDITING SO THAT
FIRMS LIKE OUR MEMBERS WOULD
FEEL COMFORTABLE INVESTING IN
THESE PROJECTS. ALL OF THIS WAS
NECESSARY TO CONVINCE THE
INVESTORS THE DAIRY OWNERS AND
PRODUCT DEVELOPERS TO COMMIT
PRIVATE CAPITAL TO THESE LONG
LIVED ASSETS WHICH TAKE A LONG
TIME TO PAY BACK. AND CARBON
USEPA CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEIR
ADJUSTERS AS A METHOD TO IMPROVE
THE ENVIRONMENT PERFORMANCE OF
DERRY'S- THE U. S. EPA HAS BEEN
WORKING ON THIS FOR MORE THAN
TWENTY YEARS WITH THE EXTRA
PROGRAM. AND HIGHLIGHTS THE
CALIFORNIA LTFS AS SIX AS A
SUCCESS STORY. FOR ENVIRONMENT
PERFORMANCE ON ITS WEBSITE. I
WORKED ON GREEN NOW GASES
PERSONALLY A CAR. FOR OVER NINE
YEARS INCLUDING THE ELSE.
PROGRAM FOR FOUR. AND I CAN TELL
YOU THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES
THE GREENHOUSE GAS ACCOUNTING
FOR DERRY PATHWAYS IN SB SEVEN
OH NINE. ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY
SOUND SCIENCE OR CONVENTIONAL
LOGIC COMMONLY USED BY LIFE
CYCLE ANALYSIS EXPERTS. AT THE
R. G. COALITION WE PROMOTED THE
LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARD
NATIONWIDE IS A POLICY THAT CAN
HELP DEPLOY DIE JESTERS. ADDRESS
DURING METHANE EMISSIONS. AND
WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED BUT
DISAPPOINTED TO SEE IT UNDER
ATTACK HERE AT HOME. THIS YEAR
WE WERE ABLE TO GET LCMS
LEGISLATION INTRODUCED IN STATES
TO PRODUCE 40% OF U. S. NOT
PRODUCT INCLUDING. AT MICHIGAN
BILL INTRODUCED TODAY- AND WE'RE
HOPING THAT OTHER STATES
FOLLOWING CALIFORNIA IS
EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLE.
WOULD BE THE FASTEST WAY TO DEAL
WITH TERRY MANURE METHANE
EMISSIONS NATIONWIDE. BUT WE NOW
SEE THAT WE MUST RETURN HOME
HAVE THIS DEBATE AGAIN. AND I
ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO WAVER. AT
THIS CRITICAL JUNCTURE AS WE'RE
BEGINNING TO SEE RESULTS IN
CALIFORNIA. OVER TWO BILLION
DOLLARS A PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
CAPITAL HAVE BEEN COMMITTED. AND
ARE AT RISK OF A STROKE OF A PEN
IF THIS BILL IS SIGNED. AS OF
JUNE TWENTY TWENTY TWO THERE ARE
MORE THAN TWO HUNDRED TWENTY
FIVE DAIRY DIGESTERS EITHER IN
OPERATION OR BEING ACTIVELY
DEVELOPED. AND ALL THAT PROGRESS
IS PUT IN JEOPARDY OKAY PLEASE
AT BEST BE SENT OUT ON LOAN
ACTED AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.
LET'S NOT GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEP TO NOT
MINUTES. THANK YOU. MORNING
MICHAEL BOOKER DORO ON BEHALF OF
THE AG ENERGY ASSOCIATION. I WAS
DEEPLY INVOLVED IN SENATE BILL
THIRTEEN EIGHTY THREE CENTER
LARS BILL ON BEHALF OF THE
DAIRY. SECTOR AND IT'S
IMPORTANT. TO RECOGNIZE FOR THE
LAST SIX YEARS SINCE THAT TIME
THE DAIRY FARM FAMILIES OF
CALIFORNIA. THESE ARE MEGA
DAIRIES HE'S OUR FACTORY FARMS
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM IS
OWNED BY A FAMILY. OR GENERALLY
MULTIPLE GENERATIONS OF FAMILY.
IN THE PAST SIX YEARS THE STATE
HAS MADE MAJOR STRIDES TO REDUCE
TERRY METHANE EMISSIONS IN
CALIFORNIA WE ARE A NATIONAL AND
GLOBAL LEADER. IN DERRY METHANE
REDUCTION AND WE'RE WELL ON OUR
WAY TO ACHIEVING THE 40% THE
STATE IS LOOKING FOR. WITHOUT
DIE JESTERS THE 40% CANNOT AND
WILL NOT BE ACHIEVED. THE
ANALYSIS APPROPRIATELY POINTS
OUT THAT IF WE CAN'T ACHIEVE
JERRY METHANE REDUCTION WHICH
ACCOUNTS FOR ALMOST HALF OF ALL
NOTHING IN CALIFORNIA. WE CAN
ACHIEVE THE SHORT LIVED CLIMATE
POLLUTANT PLAN. IF WE DON'T
ACHIEVE THE SHORT LIVED CLIMATE
POLLUTANT. PLAN THAT LARA PUT IN
PLACE WE CAN ACHIEVE THE OVERALL
GREENHOUSE GAS PLAN BY TWENTY
THIRTY. IT'S SIMPLE MATH. THE
SHORT LIVED CLIMATE POLLUTANT
PLAN IS ACCOUNTING FOR ONE THIRD
FULLY ONE THIRD. OF ALL
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTIONS. THIS
BILL WILL WIPE OUT THE TWO
BILLION DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT.
THAT HAS BEEN MADE IN CENTER
COPIERS DISTRICTS UNDER HER
TADAS DISTRICT- OFFER AUTO BILLS
DISTRICT. ASHBY'S DISTRICT IN
THE STATE TWO BILLION DOLLARS OF
INVESTMENT. SEVEN HUNDRED
MILLION OF THAT IS STATE
DOLLARS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET
OTHERS TO INVEST IN THESE
PROJECTS AND WE NEED TO BUILD AT
LEAST ANOTHER HUNDRED AND TWENTY
MORE IN CALIFORNIA. TO ACHIEVE
THE STATE'S GOALS THEY'RE WELL
ON THEIR WAY THEY'RE PERMITTED
THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS
WE'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE
LEGISLATURE ASKED US TO DO. AND
IT SHOULD NOT BE LOST ON FOLKS
THAT THE DAIRY SECTOR PROVIDED
THE LAST TWO VOTES THAT SENATOR
. LARA NEEDED IN THE ASSEMBLY TO
GET THIS BILL PASSED BECAUSE WE
TRUSTED IN THE PROCESS BUT WE
TRUSTED IN SENATOR LARA. AND WE
DID NOT EXPECT TO SEE PEOPLE
COME BACK AND CHANGE THE GROUND
RULES BY WHICH WE ARE PLAYING.
ME JUST FINALLY POINT OUT. JERRY
DIED JESTERS IMPROVE
ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE
IMPROVE AIR QUALITY THEY IMPROVE
WATER QUALITY. NO QUESTIONS THEY
DRAMATICALLY REDUCE SODA BECAUSE
THEY CAPTURE HYDROGEN SULFIDE
GAS WHICH CAUSES ODORS. SO DIE
JESTERS ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION
APPETITE NOT THE ENTIRE SOLUTION
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR NO
VOTE. THANK YOU OTHERS WISHING
IN. THIS BUILDING TO- OPPOSE.
NAME AND ASSOCIATION PLEASE.
MISTER CHAIRMAN WORST CHRISTMAS
CEILIDH ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA RENEWABLE
TRANSPORTATION ALLIANCE AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. MISTER
SHAWN MEMBERS VICTORIA RODRIGUEZ
WITH NELSON MARKS FROM BEHALF OF
MILK PRODUCERS COUNCIL AND WASTE
MANAGEMENT RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION
. GOOD MORNING GOOD AFTERNOON
KATIE LITTLE OF CALIFORNIA FARM
BUREAU AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION
. GOOD AFTERNOON TO THE ELEVEN
BIOENERGY ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA IN OPPOSITION.
RESEARCHER MEMBERS ACROSS OUR
BEHALF OF OVERRUN FUELS AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. GOOD
MORNING RYAN KENNYWOOD CLEAN
ENERGY WITH RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. ALL GOOD AFTERNOON
TRICIA GERINGER WITH
AGRICULTURAL COUNCIL OF
CALIFORNIA RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED
. EMILY PAPPAS NILA PATTERSON
ASSOCIATE SOME CAPITAL INTO
LAKES RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE.
RESEARCHER MEMBERS JASON BRYANT
ON BEHALF OF WESTERN UNITED
DAIRIES WERE POSTED BILL THANK
YOU. AFTERNOON MY NAME IS JACK
ROSE- I'M A FOURTH GENERATION
DAIRY FARMER AT IN THE FOR THE
DARING KINGS COUNTY AND I
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE. THANK YOU.
UNDER BRAZIL'S SECOND GENERATION
IMMIGRANT DAIRY FARMER FROM
TELLER COUNTY LIVED ON THE DERRY
MY WHOLE LIFE STRONGLY OPPOSE
THANK YOU. OFFICIALS MUCHAS GONE
CALIFORNIA BIOENERGY PRESIDENT
OF CANNOLI FRESNO- CONTROL
RESPECTABLE. THANK YOU. MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS GEORGE MILLER
I'M BAFFLED NATIONAL PORK
PRODUCERS COUNCIL IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU. THE NEIL BLACK ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA BIOENERGY
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIRMAN FOR THE
COMMITTEE LOUIS BROWN TODAY ON
BEHALF CALIFORNIA DAIRIES
INCORPORATED AND ARE MORE THAN
THREE HUNDRED FAMILY FORMER
OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU
. NOW WE WILL GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES MODERATOR PLEASE QUEUE UP-
PEOPLE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.
NAME AND AFFILIATION PLEASE.
PLEASE IN GERMAN IF YOU WISH TO
COMMENT ON THIS BILL PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AND ONLY
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO ONE TIME AS
- INTRANET ONE ZERO SECOND TIME
WILL REMOVE YOU FROM THE COMMENT
TO KILL. WE'RE GONNA GO TO LINE
EIGHTY THREE. KENNECOTT PLANET
ACTUALLY CALIFORNIA IS STRONG
THE COURT THANK YOU THUNDER ALEX
AND LEADERSHIP COUNCIL. WHY
NINETY ONE YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN
GOOD AFTERNOON. WHAT THINGS OUT
POLLUTING FUELS PROGRAM MANAGER
WITH THE CLIENT CENTER IN
SUPPORT OF S. B. SEVEN OH NINE
THANK YOU. BY NINETY EIGHT LINUS
NOW OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON THAT IT
ON BEHALF OF WESTERN CENTER ON
LAW AND POVERTY STRONG. BY ONE
OH THREE YOUR LINE IS OPEN. I'M
SORRY I'M IN THE OPPOSITION Q.
IT'S THE SAME QUEUE TO STATE
YOUR OPPOSITION AND WE'LL TAKE
IT. I'M SORRY TONY BURNELL
REPRESENTING U. S. VENTURE IN
OPPOSITION. FIND SEVENTY NINE
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. AFTERNOON
KAREN MEMBERS OF THE CONTRACT
FROM TRACKING PRICE CONSULTING
ON BEHALF OF THE ASIAN PACIFIC
ENVIRONMENTAL NETWORK AND
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS.
SUPPORT LINE ONE A. ONE MY NAME
IS DAN CHANDLER THREE FIFTY
HUMBOLDT IT'S IN SUPPORT OF THE
IMPORTANT SB SEVEN OR NOT. LINE
ONE OH SIX. BACK RIGHT HERE ON
THE AFTER THE CALIFORNIA
TEACHERS AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. PINE ONE
THIRTEEN. MY NAME IS MARK ALL
I'M I'M A THIRD GENERATION DAIRY
FARMER I'M IN OPPOSITION OF
SEVEN OH NINE IT IT'LL MAKE IT
IMPOSSIBLE FOR DIED YESTERDAY
THANK YOU. TEND FIVE FORTY TWO
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. BRIAN'S
BEAVERS ON. OPPOSITION TO.
SENATE BILL SEVEN OH NINE AND
REPRESENTING RACE LINE
ALTERNATIVE ENERGY AND ALSO THE
AMERICAN BIOGAS COUNCIL AND THE
VICE CHAIR AND ALSO AS A MEMBER
OF THE RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS
COALITION. THANK YOU. BY ONE-
FOR YOUR LINE IS OPEN. BY ONE OF
FOR YOUR LINE IS OPEN. THANK YOU
. HUGHES I MEAN THE AMERICANS
PROGRAM COORDINATOR WITH I DON'T
FEEL LOST AND WE'D LIKE TO OFFER
OUR SUPPORT- FIFTY SEVEN OF
NINE'S. ONE ONE OH NINE YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON
THIS IS CRIED WITH CALIFORNIA
JERRY CAMPAIGNS. PLEASE CLOSE
SEVEN OH NINE THANK YOU. FIND
ONE OF YOUR LINES OPEN. MY NAME
TREVOR SLUGGERS I AM IT'S
GENERATION DAIRY FARMER CAL I
STRONGLY OPPOSE SENATE BILL
ANOTHER BECAUSE IT WOULD UNDER
OUR- BUDGET THEY CAN'T. AND I
BROUGHT. LINE ONE OH WAIT YOUR
LINE IS NOW- OPEN. WE'RE NOT
SURE WE HAVE A DINNER AMHERST
COUNTY I UP. SEVEN ON THANK YOU
THANK YOU. FIND Y. FIFTEEN YOUR
LONG IS NOW OPEN. HELLO MY NAME
IS VANESSA SO HIGH FOR REYES AND
OF SAN JUAN VALLEY DOING IN
DURING FARMER I STRONG OPPOSE
THOSE OF ARE BACK THANK YOU.
FIND SEVENTY REAL IS NOW OPEN.
EMAIL REPRESENTING THE APPROVED
SAFETY AND SUPPORT. ONE ONE
ANNUAL IS NOW OPEN. MY NAME IS
SELVI. ON OF THE BOARD GARY AND
PRESS OKAY. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE
SEVEN NINE. THANK YOU BYE NOW
FIVE YOUR LINE IS OPEN. BY
NINETY FIVE YOUR LONG IS OPEN.
YEAH OUR STRONG AND I IF A NINE
NINE THANK YOU. BY ONE SEVENTY
YEAR LINE NOW A- YEAH MY NAME IS
JAMES LAMBROUGHTON CAL DRUG
ABOUT TO BE A- WE ARE AT STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. SURE THERE IS
NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNALED WISH
THIS. THANK YOU WILL BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. BUT BY MY
YES. WITH HUNDRED SPEAK A LITTLE
BIT- I KNOW WHEN YOUR BILL YOU
MENTIONED THAT IT'S GONNA. THIS
WHEN THE RIVER- THEY SHOULD NOT
GUARANTEE THEY'LL SEE IT AS FOR
MANURE IF GAS FROM OTHER RIGHT
GENERATE CREDITS LC. HE'S BEEN
TO MORE WE SEE THAT THERE ARE
OTHER ALL. FOR THESE CHERRIES TO
CAP MANURE THAT WOULD NOT
GENERATE AS MUCH EMISSIONS AND
THEY'RE NOT AND THEY'RE OPTING
OUT OF THOSE OPTIONS RIGHT
THAT'S THE THAT'S EXACTLY THE-
THE CONCERN HERE AND OF COURSE.
YOU KNOW IT I MEAN IN THE END OF
THE DAY- IF IT TURNS OUT THAT
THE L. CFS IS A BETTER WAY. TO
GENERATE IS CREDITS THAT YOU CAN
CONTINUE TO DO SO WE JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WITH THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THIRTEEN
EIGHTY THREE IS ACTUALLY MEETING
THE STATED GOALS OF THIRTY THREE
THE ALTERNATE PROGRAM YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT IT'S MENTIONED
ANALYSIS IS ALTERNATIVE MANURE
PROGRAM. THE A. M. M. P. AS IT'S
CALLED- AT ALTERMAN YOUR MANAGER
PROGRAM IT DESCRIBED ON PAGE
FIVE OF THE NOW SAYS AND DINNER
THERE'S A DEBATE ABOUT- ABOUT-
YEAH THE NEW THE DIGESTERS. THE
AMP. I MEAN I WILL I WILL SAY
THAT THE CALIO FOUND THE
ULTIMATE YOUR PROGRAM TO BE
HIGHLY EFFECTIVE ACTUALLY. AND
IT DIRECTLY QUESTION THE
EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS THAT WERE.
YOU KNOW BEING CLAIMED BY THE
DIGEST ERRORS- ONCE AGAIN LET'S
LET'S LET'S FIGURE IT OUT RIGHT
I MEAN LET'S LET'S ACTUALLY
LET'S ACTUALLY. SEE WHETHER THIS
IS- BUT WHICH PROGRAMS WORKING
BETTER AND WHAT WHAT BALLOTS WE
SHOULD HAVE BETWEEN THE TWO.
RIGHT YOU KNOW I DO BELIEVE IT
IS OR THE ROLE OF LEGISLATORS TO
RE EXAMINE BRING BACK PROGRAMS
TO OUR PURVIEW AND JUST SEE IF
THEY'RE WORKING OR NOT THAT IS
OUR RESPONSIBILITY. AND I THINK
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS A FIVE
PASSAGE- IS IT EIGHT YEARS AGO
IS NOT WORKING LET'S LET'S
CHANGE THAT YOU KNOW SOMETHING
THAT STRUCK WITH ME. STRUCK A
CHORD IS THAT LIVING NEAR A
LANDFILL RECYCLING. LIVING NEAR
ONE OF THESE STORIES IS LIKE
LIVING NEAR LAND FOR RECYCLING
CENTER. GIVEN THE IMPACTS AND I
REPRESENT AREAS TO LIVE NEXT TO
THESE LANDFILL RECYCLING CENTERS
AND I'M- ON. VERY ATTUNED HOW
THAT'S IMPACTING HIGH RATES OF
ASTHMA AND THESE ARE IN MY
COMMUNITY THE BROWN COMMUNITY SO
YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING
A STAND ON THIS. REEVALUATING
PROGRAMS AND SEE IF HOW WE CAN
BETTER THEM. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO
SENATOR ALLEN I GO TO THE- SO
YOU KNOW WE- I WAS AROUND FOR
THIRTEEN EIGHTY. THIRTY THREE
THIRTY EIGHTY THREE AND- WE HAD.
THE WOULD BASICALLY SET TO THESE
PRODUCERS THAT LOOK. WE PUT A
PROGRAM IN PLACE THERE'S BEEN.
MANY PROJECTS COMING FORWARD TO
ACTUALLY WORK WE KNOW THEY WORK.
RIGHT YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT
DISPUTING THE FACT THAT THEIR
ADJUSTERS WORK. NO NO WHAT I'M
NOT DISPUTING THAT BUT I'M I
GUESS WHAT WE ARE. WE ARE THERE
HAVE BEEN LOTS IS CREDIBLE
QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT THE
EXTENT TO WHICH- THE PROGRAM AS
EARLY STAGE RESEARCH ACTUALLY
MEETING THE GOALS THAT THAT WERE
BEHIND THIRTY THREE. SO BUT THIS
BUT FOLKS ARE INVESTING IN OR
GETTING CREDITS AND THAT'S
WHAT'S HELP. HELPING OFFSET OF
THE COST TO GO TO MAKING THESE
PROJECTS WORK YEAH AND THE
STATE'S OFFICE HE ALSO. PUT
NEARLY A BILLION DOLLARS A
CREDITS OUT. THERE WE'VE
EXCELLENT AS WELL SO IT'S
THERE'S BEEN A GENEROUS CREDIT
SYSTEM WHAT WHAT DO YOU THINK
THE IMPACT WILL BE OVER THE TEN
YEAR GRADING PERIOD ON ON
PROJECT DEVELOPMENT. OVER THE
THIS WILL BE THE EVEN JOBS OF
THIS THIS LAST THIS THIS POINT
ABOUT WHERE THE BILL IS- IS- A
DISTRICT IN THE GUARANTEE. WE
GUARANTEE ON THE BIOMETHANE
PROJECTS. WHAT I THINK THE
IMPLICATIONS MIGHT BE. YEAH
WE'RE NOT GONNA IF HE IF YOU
DON'T HAVE THE PROGRAM YOU'RE
NOT GONNA GET THAT CREDIT YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO INVEST.
SO THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO MOVE
YOUR DERRI OUTSIDE OF THE STATE
OF FEAR. IF YOU CAN'T MEET THE
STANDARDS. WELL THIRDS WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN MOST CASES. WITH
WITH THE DAIRIES ARE FLEEING THE
STATE YEAH. THIRTEEN GERRY'S
LAST YEAR AND CENTER REQUIRES
DISTRICTS. ORGANIC THERE IS BY
THE WAY ARE ABOUT A BUSINESS.
THIRTEEN JUSTIN CENTERS OURS IS
I MEAN AS YOU KNOW THERE ARE A
TON OF DIFFERENT FACTORS AT PLAY
DVDS. ARE USING A THIRTEEN
EIGHTY THREE IS DRIVING NO NO
I'M SAYING THAT WE HAVE A
PROGRAM THAT I THINK IS WORKING.
I THINK ISN'T MEETING RIGHT AND
IF IT'S WORKING. THEN THEN
NOBODY'S GONNA HAVE IMPLICATIONS
UNDER THE SPELL RIGHT MILTON LEE
THIS IS ABOUT CALLING THE
QUESTION ON WHETHER IT'S
WORKING. GETTING DATA. AND
ENSURING THAT THERE'S ACTUAL
THAT THAT THAT THE
IMPLEMENTATION IS SORRY BUT IF
IT'S IF IN JEOPARDY IS THE
FUNDING SOURCES OF THE LCF. THEN
YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT
INVESTMENT. I MEAN I GUESS THE
QUESTION IS- YOU KNOW IF IT IF
IT IS IF IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM
THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THE
INVESTMENT. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO
SEE CONTINUED STATE SUBSIDY FOR
PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY
SOLVING THE PROBLEMS THAT THE-
THAT THE BILL. SEEKS TO ADDRESS
THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE-
YOU KNOW THE ULTIMATE CONCEPT
HERE I MEAN I THINK- AND IN THE
END OF THE DAY WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE
ALREADY PUT. POLITICALLY SEVEN
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS A STATE
INTO INTO THIS. AND THEN YOU GOT
ALL THE SFS CREDITS ARE STOCKING
UP ON TOP OF THAT SO. I MEAN I
GUESS. IT REALLY DOES- THIS CALL
THE QUESTION HEALTH COST
EFFECTIVE AT ALL IS IN AND THEN
WE GOT A WHOLE SLEW OF THE BROWN
JUSTICE IN CONTAMINATION AND-
POLLUTION PROBLEMS. THAT ARE
ASSOCIATED SO I THINK THE WHAT
WE WANT TO DO IS GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF THIS RIGHT I MEAN THIS
IS A BILL PASSED YOU KNOW.
TWENTY SIXTEEN. AND. WE SET UP A
CERTAIN STRUCTURE. THERE'S A LOT
OF EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT
THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WE'RE
HEARING THERE'S A DIFFERENT
NARRATIVE OF COURSE FROM THE
DERRY STREET BENEFITING FROM THE
CURRENT STATUS QUO. AND WE WANT.
A SYSTEM CARDS CAN HELP TO DRIVE
IT- TO KIND OF GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF THESE QUESTIONS AND BEEN.
TWEAKING READJUST AS AS
APPROPRIATE THIS IS NOT CON FOR.
IRAQ GETTING RID OF THE PROGRAM
WITH THIS BILL THIS IS THIS IS
ABOUT. MAKING SURE THAT WE
TWEETED THAT WE GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF WHATEVER CHALLENGES
MAY BE. WITH PEOPLE ATTENTION SO
WE GET A RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU
I'D LIKE FOR THE OPPOSITION TO
BE ABLE TO MAYBE ANSWER THAT
QUESTION FOR ME IT IN YOUR TERMS
OF IT. IT WILL IT FIRST AND
FOREMOST THIS IS NOT A STUDY
BILL THIS. ELIMINATES THE TENURE
CREDITING. AND IT WOULD
DRAMATICALLY CHANGE HOW THE ELSE
IF ELSE CREDITS. ARE GENERATED.
IT WILL WIPE OUT THE PROJECTS
THE REVENUE THAT THEY CAN
GENERATE WILL NOT BE ENOUGH TO.
OFFSET THEIR OPERATING COSTS
WHICH MEANS WE LOSE TWO BILLION
DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT. AND THE
PERFORMANCE OF THESE PROJECTS IS
NOT IN QUESTION. THIS IS WIDELY
REGARDED THERE'S BEEN. AMPLE
TESTIMONY AND CENTER BACKERS
COMMITTEE. BY THE L. A. O. BY
CARB. BIKE CDFA THIS IS NOT ONLY
THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE.
INVESTMENT THE STATE IS MAKING
AND NINE DOLLARS PER TON. IT IS
THE MOST PRODUCTIVE INVESTMENT
OVERALL OF ALL PROGRAMS THE
STATE INVESTS AND- PRODUCED OVER
TWO POINT TWO MILLION. TONS OF
CO TWO E. PER YEAR SO THERE
SHOULD BE NO QUESTION. AND
DAIRIES ARE NOT EXPANDING THE
TOTAL NUMBER OF COWS IN
CALIFORNIA IS RAPIDLY DECLINING
BY ABOUT 1% PER YEAR. NOT JUST
IN SENATOR MCGUIRE'S SISTER ACT.
THE TOTAL NUMBER OF COWS IN THE
STATE IS DECLINED. ALMOST EVERY
YEAR SINCE TWO THOUSAND EIGHT
WE'VE LOST ONE POINT SEVEN
MILLION COWS ROUGHLY IN
CALIFORNIA DURING THAT TIME
FRAME. AND ALL EXPECTATIONS ARE
IT WILL ACCELERATE. AND THOSE
COWS ARE GOING TO TEXAS IDAHO
SOUTH DAKOTA IN KANSAS THEY
WELCOME THOSE DAIRIES. AND
THEY'RE OFTEN BRAG ABOUT THE
FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE LOTS
OF ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION. SO
THIS IS THE MAJOR CONCERN THAT
SENATOR LAW ARE RECOGNIZED THE
MAJOR CONCERN THAT CARP
CONTINUES TO RECOGNIZE. IS IF
WE- MAKE IT TO THE SPERRY'S
CAN'T REDUCE METHANE AND WE TRY
TO DIRECTLY REGULATE THEM WHICH
IS EXACTLY WHAT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITY
HAS ASKED FOR. AND WHAT THIS
BILL WOULD ULTIMATELY ACCOMPLISH
THEY WILL SIMPLY LEAVE AND GO
PRODUCE SMOKE SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR
THEIR AND REGULATED AND THE
EMISSIONS WILL BE HIGHER. THE M.
PROJECTS ARE PART OF THE
SOLUTION THERE'S NO QUESTION BY
JESTERS A PART OF THE SOLUTION
ATTRITION IS PART OF THE
SOLUTION IN CALIFORNIA AND WE
NEED ENTERIC SOLUTIONS. TO THE
FRONT END OF THE COW AND WE'RE
WORKING ON THAT A SENATOR BAKER
HAS LEGISLATION SENATOR SKINNER
PROVIDED TEN MILLION DOLLARS
LAST YEAR FOR RESEARCH INTO
ENTERIC. WE'RE GETTING THERE AND
WE ARE NOT FALLING SHORT OF
ACHIEVING. THIRTEEN EIGHTY THREE
GOALS FOR WELL ON OUR WAY UC
DAVIS STUDY CONFIRMED WHAT CARP
STUDY SHOWS. IF WE CAN BUILD
THESE PROJECTS WE CAN GET THERE
IF WE DON'T BUILD THESE DIE
JESTERS WE WON'T GET THERE.
THANK YOU SO BASICALLY YOUR BILL
DOES. HAVE SEAT LENT IT LIMITS
THE TENURE I MEAN DID INVESTMENT
IF YOU CAN'T GET THE INVESTMENT
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. SO
THAT YOUR BILL DOES RAISE NOT
DID THIS ISN'T A STUDY BILL NO I
UNDERSTAND RIGHT OKAY YEAH I OF
COURSE NINE NINE. HE SAID WE'RE
GONNA GET THE INFORMATION
INFORMATION'S PRETTY CLEAR IN MY
MIND. THAT WITHOUT THESE
DIGESTIBLE WE WILL NOT REDUCE
MENOPAUSE FOR NOT ON THE ONLY
OTHER OPTION IS TO LEAVE. IF YOU
DON'T HAVE THOSE. WE DON'T HAVE
THIS. PRODUCT IN PLACE. THE ONLY
OTHER OPTION IS TO READ OVER IT
BUT WE'RE NOT. WE'RE WE'RE NOT
DOING AWAY WITH THE CREDITS WE
ARE NOT WE ARE WE'RE DOING AWAY
WITH THE GUARANTEE THAT YOU'RE
DOING AWAY WITH THE CERTAINTY OF
INVESTING BE ABLE TO INVEST IN
PEOPLE DON'T INVEST IF THEY ARE
NOT GOING TO RETURN. SERVICE TO
END AND THAT BUT THIS IS WHERE
IT COMES BACK TO THE QUESTION
OF. SHOW US THE SICK. WE WANNA
GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHETHER
WHETHER WHETHER WE'RE MEETING
THE GOALS. AND IF WE ARE MEETING
THE GOALS THEN OF COURSE WE GOT
TO KEEP INVESTING BUT THE
QUESTION IS YOU KNOW WHAT IT
WILL IT YOU WHAT WHAT IT WHAT
COST RIGHT AT WHAT AT WHAT COST
ARE WE- ARE WE- HAVE WE HAVE
REDUCE EMISSIONS. BUT IT'S BEEN
A MASSIVE COSTS BEEN A MASSIVE
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COSTS AND
SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES- YEAH
. OKAY- SO THAT THAT'S THE-
THAT'S ALL. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT
DO. AWAY THE CREDIT. IT'S DOING
AWAY WITH GUARANTEE OF THE
CRASH. DOES I'M SENSE. I AND
THAT'S IN A POINT. THAT'S A BIG
THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST.
FACTOR IS IF YOU'RE GOING IF
YOU'RE GOING TO WE SHOULD ONLY
BE GIVEN THE CREDIT IF IT'S
MEETING. OUR GOALS IT IS MEETING
THE GOALS OF WOMEN THERE'S ARE A
PROBLEM WE JUST FOR THE MOTHERS
ONLY FOR THE BILL THEN. WELL BUT
THERE'S A BIG DEBATE OVER
WHETHER IT'S ACTUALLY I MEAN THE
GOALS. SO THAT IT SHOULD BE
STUDY BILL TO FIGURE OUT IF FOR
MEETING THE- CRITERIA NOT. THIS
BILL MANDATES THAT YOU'RE GONNA
LOSE YOUR CREDIT IF YOU SO WHO'S
GONNA INVEST NOBODY'S GONNA
INVEST IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE
CERTAINTY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
BE ABLE TO. PAY BACK THE
INVESTMENT THAT'S PART OF WHY WE
HELP. THESE PROGRAMS LONG AND- I
CANNOT TELL YOU. HOW MANY BILLS
OTHER BILLS WE'VE SEEN IT COME
THROUGH HERE THAT. THAT THE COST
IS A MATTER WE GOT TO SAVE THE
ENVIRONMENT THIS ACTUALLY IS
DOING IT. AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S-
THE COST PER TON IS VERY LOW SO
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY. WE WOULD
MANDATE THAT AND TAKE AWAY THE
CERTAINTY. OF THE INVESTMENT
THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE. HOPE YOU
HAVE A GREAT I'D LOVE TO GET I'D
LIKE TO BRING. THE PERSPECTIVE.
QUESTION I WAS I WANTED TO SEE.
I WOULD TO SEE IF PHOEBE. COULD
COME BACK UP- BECAUSE I HAVE
QUESTIONS IN ON THE SPECTRUM.
HOUSE EFFICIENT AND YEAH IF YOU
CAN RESPOND TO THAT PICKED UP.
TO I'LL GIVE IT A SHOT I AM. YOU
KNOW FOR I THINK THAT THE FACT
THAT THE- HAVE LESS. SO MCGUIRE
SISTER IS AN INDIE. OF WHAT WE
DONE AND WHAT OUR DECISION. HAVE
LED US TO WHICH IS. THAT WE ARE
INVEST IN A CERTAIN KIND OF
BEARING A CERTAIN KIND OF DAIRY.
IN THOSE AREAS A SMALL ORGANICS
ARE NOT GOING ARE LESS AND LESS
ABLE TO COMPETE. WHEN WE HAVE
COMPLEMENTARY REVENUE STREAMS
THAT ARE SO. THAT ARE THAT ARE
ONLY HELPING. A CERTAIN TYPE OF
DAIRY A CERTAIN TYPE OF DAIRY
PERSON CERTAIN TYPE OF DERRY.
FAMILY TO THERE'S NO. S. AS
CENTER IS. DON'T INTERFERE BUT
THERE'S NO LIMITATION OF CREDIT.
IS A- ELIMINATION OF THE
GUARANTEE. THAT THIS THAT BUT
THE PROJECTS CAN'T GENERATE
CREDITS. IF THEY OTHERWISE
WOULDN'T GENERATE CREDITS BASED
ON. THE RULES OF SCIENCE BASED
ON THE GREET MODEL IT CETERA.
THIS JUST TIES THE CREDIT
GENERATION. TO THE SCIENCE-
FINALLY I THINK AND IT IS FOR TO
THE CITY CENTER IS. A ALSO
CALLING THE QUESTION IS WHAT.
YOU KNOW IT YOU OR THAT THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT
WE NEED TO- KIND OF SECURITY
INVESTMENT I DON'T. THINK
THERE'S A QUESTION OF THERE
HASN'T BEEN A QUESTION OF. HOW
MUCH INVESTMENT HOW MUCH PROFIT.
ARE WE- GONNA REQUIRED TO
GENERATE ARE WE REQUIRED TO
GUARANTEE- AND FINALLY- I DO I
DO THINK THERE'S A DISPUTE ABOUT
HOW WHAT WHAT THIS WHOLE BILL A
LOT OF THIS WHOLE BILL IS ABOUT.
IS WHAT THE MATH IS AND THERE'S
A LOT OF DISPUTE WITH THEIR
SLACK OF TRANSPARENCY WE CAN'T
SEE THE INFORMATION WERE RELYING
ON CONCLUSIONS MEANING THE
PUBLIC THE LEGISLATURE- AND I
THINK IT'S VERY UNCLEAR WHAT
ACTUAL G. ISSUE REDUCTIONS WERE
SEEING AND HOW MUCH. WE'RE
PAYING FOR AND WHERE THAT MONEY
IS COMING FROM AND FOR STACKING
INCENTIVES HOWEVER WE ACCOUNTING
FOR THAT STOCKING OF INCENTIVES
AND DOES THAT IMPACT THE COST
EFFECTIVENESS ANALYSIS SELL. THE
OTHER PART IS YOU KNOW YOU
THERE'S A MASSIVE PROGRAM YES IT
FAST NOBODY ELSE. WHO GETS IN A
CFS CREDIT HAS THIS THIS TEN
YEAR GUARANTEE YOU KNOW THAT
THEY HAVE IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO
DO TO GUARANTEE THAT IS A GOOD
FOURTH WHILE INVESTMENT. TONS
AND TONS OF COMPANIES ARE
INVESTING IN ALL SORTS OF THINGS
WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF GETTING
CAP AND TRADE CREDIT ELSIE FEST
CREDIT. AND I HAD TO STOP THEIR
INVESTMENT THAT THAT DOES WAS
PUT INTO THIRTEEN EIGHTY THREE
TO ENCOURAGE THE INVESTMENT AND
YOU KNOW. TO THE TIP TO THE
QUESTION OF. WHAT IS A ARBY'S
ROLLED AIRBEAMS RULES TO TELL
US. THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU
JUST ASK ABOUT BUT IN IN NO
OTHER CASE DO WE- WHO DO WE SAY
WHAT IS THE COST. WE DON'T WE TO
SAY WE'VE GOT. TO DO IT IT'S
JUST TAKEN CARE HERE ALWAYS.
VERY FEW KEY. ALL OF STICK. AND
WE B. P. INNOCENT. WHEN IT TO
THAN. IT DOES MATTER COST. WE
JUST WE'RE WE GOT TO SAY THE
WORLD. AND WE DON'T CARE IF YOU
LEAVE THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING TO THIS INDUSTRY
IS THE CLICK HEY. WE'RE GOING TO
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY THE
INCENTIVE THAT ACTUALLY. ALLOWS
YOU TO DO EIGHT DOLLARS A TIME
WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE YOUR
TALK ABOUT. ABUSE OF THE SYSTEM.
WE HAVE A REAL REAL SYSTEM IN
CENTER VALLEY THAT'S BLOWING
MONEY A HUNDRED SIXTY THOUSAND
DOLLARS PER TON. AND IT'S LIKE
APPLES APPLES THAT'S CRAZY SO
HAVING AS WELL AS A MATTER
PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE WE GOT A
BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM
SOME OF THEM REPRESENT
VOCALIZATIONS THAT. GAVE MARY
NICHOLS A LOT OF TROUBLE BECAUSE
SHE WAS TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THE
COSTS FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
RIGHT SO. YOU KNOW IT'S AN
INTERESTING. I CAN YEAH YOU YOU
YOU YOU MAY MAKE THAT ARGUMENT
BUT BUT- BUT THERE THERE'S A LOT
THAT COST IS DEFINITELY TAKING
INTO ACCOUNT AND EVERYTHING WE
DO. ESPECIALLY A CAR I REMEMBER
THAT QUOTE BECAUSE I WILL I WILL
BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND MANY
BILLS ON IT WITH THE COME TO THE
SCREEN BECAUSE IT'S NOT. THAT'S
NOT TRUE THE FACT IS WE JUST SAY
WE GOT TO DO IT. AND WE DON'T
CARE WHAT IT COSTS TO. THE
COMPANY OR THE- FARMER OR WHO IT
IS. TRUST ME CENTER WE DON'T
MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN THAT
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT THE KIND OF
COST TO BE OPPOSE IN OTHER PARTS
OF THE WORLD. ON SOME OF THE
CLIMATE THINGS IS FAR GREATER
THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING ON OUR
ECONOMY HERE. WELL THAT YOUR
PERSPECTIVE. IT'S MANY OTHER
COMMENTS. SO MANY. GOOD OKAY
WILL CLOSE THE CALL. WILL BRING
IT TO LIVE. TO ENTERTAIN A
MOTION- CLIP WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE. SERRANO I LISTEN. OUT AS
ALL. I OUR HONEST. DIALOGUE AND-
AND- NO I KNOW THIS IS
COMPLICATED I KNOW IT'S
COMPLICATED I KNOW WE'RE WE'RE-
PART PART OF THE CHALLENGE HERE
IS WE'VE GOT A REAL. COME
DIFFERENCE OF NARRATIVES. AND
AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS. THE
DISCUSSION STARTED BY THIS BILL.
WILL HELP TO. GET SOME MORE
FOCUS ON THESE DIFFERENT AREAS
SO THAT WE CANNOT YOU KNOW MY
GOAL HERE IS TO ENSURE. THAT
WHEN WORK WAS ASKING THESE
QUESTIONS WERE LOOKING AT. THE
L. CFS PARTICULAR WITH REGARDS
TO DERRY'S THAT WERE REALLY
HEWING TO THE GOALS OF THIRTEEN
EIGHTY THREE. AND IT'S MY HOPE
THAT AS THIS BILL- SPARKS
CONVERSATION. SO THAT WE CAN
REALLY GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE
EFFICACY AND THE VALUE. OF COST
BENEFIT AND OTHERS WEISS.
ASSOCIATE WITH THIS PROGRAM IT'S
IMPLEMENTATION THAT'S THAT'S THE
GOAL HERE IN TIME THAT'S WHY I
MOVING BY SO I'M I'M ASKING FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE. FIVE THAT AND I
WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I'D LOVE
TO HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATIONS.
WITH THE SINCERITY WHEN IT COMES
TO. HIGH SPEED RAIL AND ALL
THESE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT REALLY
ARE HORRIBLE THAT DON'T MEET ANY
THE- QUALIFICATIONS THINGS THAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SO I
APPRECIATE THAT AND- LOOK FOR
THAT AND I WAS ALWAYS. ENJOY THE
ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BE REVISED
HERE AS SOMEBODY WHO REALLY
RESPECTS THE WAY YOU RUN A
MEETING AND I REALLY APPRECIATE
THAT. AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO
HAVE. DIALOGUE WHERE WE NEED IT
SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION NOW
BY A SENATOR MITCH OF OUR WE
HAVE A MOTION. AND WILL CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION
IS TO PASS APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE SENATORS ALAN. MY
PRETTY MISTER AYE STERN AYE VOTE
I. HI DALY. DALLI NO GUNS ALL.
LIMÓN MENJIVAR. MANY OF OUR AYE
WHEN NO SKINNER. TO ITS ON CALL
WILL LEAVE IT TOUGH FOR. ADD ONS
WHEN THE MEMBERS COME.
OKAY JOSH. LET'S DO THIS BROTHER
BLOOD NUMBER ELEVEN I LOCKED
PUBLIC TRONIC WASTE EXPORT. THIS
IS SB FIVE SIXTY EIGHT
APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. AND
THANK YOU I HAVE TO MINIMALISM
THERE IS THIS IS LIKE WHEN YOU
COME HOME WHEN YOUR MOM AND YOUR
DAD ARE FIGHTING- NOT SURE IT'S
A GOOD TIME TO ASK FOR A NEW
BIKE SO- MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS IT
IS ANYBODY'S BUSINESS. IN THIS
COMMITTEE IT HAS TO BE VERY
GREAT. AS YOU MERCED INTEGRITY
UP TO PER SB SIX EIGHT- WHICH
WOULD THAT IN IN ENTITY MUST
THAT THEY HAVE ATTEMPTED TO
LOCATE A LICENSED IN STATE E.
WASTE RECYCLING FACILITY BEFORE
EXPORTING E. WASTE BROUGHT-
GLOBALLY LESS THAN 20% OF THE
WASTE IS CURRENTLY RECYCLE
PROPERLY WITH THE REMAINING
EIGHTY PERCENT. OF THE WASTE
ENDING UP EITHER IN LANDFILLS OR
IMPROPERLY RECYCLED MUCH OF THIS
WHICH ULTIMATELY ENDS UP IN
DEVELOPING COUNTRIES. BEING
PROCESSED BY HAND IN EXPOSING
WORKERS IN THOSE PLACES TO
HAZARDOUS OR CARCINOGENIC
SUBSTANCES SUCH AS MERCURY LEAD
AND CADMIUM TO NAME A FEW IN
ADDITION TO THESE ADVERSE HEALTH
AND CLIMATE IMPACTS THE IMPROPER
MANAGEMENT OF E. WASTE. ALSO
RESULTS IN IN A SIGNIFICANT LOSS
OF SCARCE AND VALUABLE RAW
MATERIALS SUCH AS GOLD PLATINUM
COBALT AND OTHER RARE EARTH
ELEMENTS BUT EXPERTS ESTIMATE.
THAT AS MUCH AS 7% OF THE
WORLD'S GOLD MAY ACTUALLY
CURRENTLY BE CONTAINED IN E.
WASTE WITH UP TO A HUNDRED
TIMES. MORE GOLD TO BE FOUND IN
A TON OF THE U. S. THAN ANY TURN
OF MIND COLD WAR. THE FEDERAL
STATE GOVERNMENTS HAVE
IDENTIFIED THE SECURING OF
DOMESTIC SUPPLY CHAINS FOR
CRITICAL MINERALS AND PRECIOUS
METALS AS A HIGH ECONOMIC. AND
NATIONAL SECURITY PRIORITY
INCLUDING THE RECYCLING AND
REUSE RECYCLING AND REPROCESSING
OF PRECIOUS METALS AND RARE
EARTH ELEMENTS. AS A MEANS TO
AUGMENT INCREASED DOMESTIC
PRODUCTION OF THOSE RARE. EARTH
ELEMENTS SB FIVE SIXTY EIGHT
WOULD REQUIRE ALL CALIFORNIA
HANDLERS OF IF YOU WISH TO
CERTIFY THAT THEY- HAVE
ATTEMPTED TO LOCATE AN IN STATE
E. WASTE RECYCLING FACILITY
PRIOR. TO EXPORTING ANY E. WASTE
THEREBY INCREASING THE
LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU WHICH WILL
BE MORE SAFELY AND EFFICIENTLY
PROCESSED AT STATE BASED
FACILITIES. WHICH ARE
ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE
CALIFORNIA'S E. WASTE RECYCLING
MARKET WHICH IS ALREADY AMONG
THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD. IS
PROJECTED TO GROW BY 50% OR
MORE- BY TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN IF
WE CAN STREAMLINE THE PROCESSING
AND RECYCLING OF THE WASTE
MATERIALS. THE STATE HAS A
UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY BECOME A
GLOBAL LEADER. IN THE MARKET FOR
SAFELY RECLAIMING THE RARE AND
VALUABLE MINERALS CONTAINED IN
E. WASTE. IS SO DOING SB FIVE
SIXTY A WILL YIELD IMMENSE LONG
TERM ECONOMIC BENEFITS FOR THE.
STATE WHILE REDUCING THE
LIKELIHOOD. THAT POTENTIALLY TO
ACTUALLY HE WAS WHICH WILL FINE
THEIR WAY OF. TO LOOK. WITH MUCH
WEAKER IN FIRE STAY. WE ARE. TO
WORK WITH CALPERS. AND OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS TO MAKE THE GOAL
AND INTENT. OF THIS LEGISLATION
PRACTICAL FOR ALL PARTIES
INVOLVED IN WITH ME TO DESTROY
AND BEHALF THIS LEGISLATION DAY.
ARE DOUGLAS POLLEN EXECUTIVE
VICE PRESIDENT FINANCE
ACCOUNTING. FOR KANSEN RATHER AN
E. WASTE RECYCLING COMPANY
UTILIZING INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGY
TO BREAK DOWN THE WHICH
OFFICIALLY. AND RESPONSIBLY AND
MARK MARIE AT THE EXECUTIVE
RICHARD FOR CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WASTE I AM RESPECTFULLY ASKING.
FOR YOUR AYE VOTE TODAY. OKAY
WITH HER FOR THE- HELLO CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE- SENATE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS DOUGLAS POLLEN. I AM
A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN THE
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AND
FINANCE ACCOUNTING FOR KANSEN
RATHER. I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK
TO YOU IN SUPPORT OF SB FIVE
SIXTY EIGHT. THE PIECE OF
LEGISLATION THAT WILL HELP
TACKLE THE GROWING PROBLEM OF
ELECTRONIC WASTE OR E. WASTE.
THE WASTE IS THE FASTEST GROWING
WASTE STREAM. GLOBALLY AND IN
TWENTY TWENTY ONE ALONE IT
GENERATED AN ESTIMATED FIFTY
SEVEN POINT FOUR MILLION METRIC
TONS. OF WASTE GLOBALLY. PER THE
UNITED NATIONS TWENTY TWENTY
GLOBAL E. WASTE REPORT.
CALIFORNIA'S SHARE OF THIS WASTE
STREAM IS SIGNIFICANT WITH AN
ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF ONE POINT
FOUR BILLION POUNDS. BEING
CREATED ANNUALLY. OF WHICH ONLY
15% AS QUICK STARKLY BEEN
RECOVERED THROUGH FORMAL
RECYCLING. IT WAS SO LITTLE OF
THE E. WASTE BEING PROPERLY
RECYCLED. THE REMAINING E. WASTE
ENDS UP EITHER IN LANDFILLS. OR
PROPERLY RECYCLED. THIS NOT ONLY
CONTAMINATE SOIL AND GROUNDWATER
BUT ALSO EXPOSES WORKERS IN
DEVELOPING COUNTRIES TO
HAZARDOUS OR CARCINOGENIC
SUBSTANCES. BUT RESPONSIBLY
RECYCLING E. WASTE WITHIN THE
STATE CALIFORNIA COULD BECOME A
GLOBAL LEADER. IN THE MARKET FOR
RECYCLED SCARCE MINERALS DERIVED
FROM ME WASTE SB FIVE SIXTY
EIGHT WILL HELP TO KEEP MORE OF
THE RESULTING RECYCLED PRODUCTS
SUCH AS GOLD SILVER COPPER
PALLADIUM PLATINUM TANTALUM
RHODIUM AND MORE CRITICAL AND
RARE EARTH METALS. HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. KEMPSTON AND OTHER
RECYCLING COMPANIES WOULD THEN
BE WILL BE HELPING TO LIMIT OUR
DEPENDENCY ON FOREIGN FOREIGN
METAL RESERVES. THIS WILL ALSO
HELP REDUCE OUR CARBON IMPACT IN
A REAL INDIRECT WAY. OUR PROCESS
ALONE FINE AVERAGE TAKES 90%
LESS CARBON TO PROCESS THE SAME
VOLUME OF METALS MATERIALS THAN
TRADITIONAL METHODS. I URGE YOU
TO SUPPORT SB FIVE SIXTY EIGHT
BY DOING SO WE CAN DETER
IMPROPER E. WASTE DISPOSAL LAST
SPRING E. WASTE RECYCLING
INNOVATION CALIFORNIA. THIS WILL
NOT ONLY ADVANCE STATE AND
FEDERAL PRIORITIES BUT ALSO
POSITION CALIFORNIA TO ASSUME A
KEY ROLE IN CREATING A TRULY
CIRCULAR SOLUTION. FOR
MANUFACTURERS LOOKING TO SOURCE
RECYCLED METALS AND TO BETTER
MEET THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL SOCIAL
AND GOVERNANCE REPORTING
COMMITMENTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS
IMPORTANT BILL. THANK YOU. THIS
SUMMER. MISTER CHAIR MEMBER MARK
WORRY WITH CAL AGAINST WASTE
JUST TWO QUICK POINTS ON THIS
WARRANTS A OF THE MEASURE. THIS
IS AN EX. AND EXPANSION OF THE
EXISTING RESTRICTIONS ON EXPORTS
OF THE EXISTING E. WASTE ALREADY
RESTRICTS ACCESS EXPORT IN ORDER
TO. MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT
POLLUTING DEVELOPING COUNTRIES
WHEN WE'RE COLLECTING IN
DISMANTLING DEVICES. THE OTHER
THING THIS BILL IS DUE AND
REALLY WELCOMING THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE OUR TWENTY
PLUS YEAR OLD E. WASTE RECYCLING
LAW. BECAUSE OUR E. WASTE
RECYCLING ALLIES REALLY BEEN A
COLLECTION AND DISMANTLING LAW
AND WHAT THIS ENTERPRISE IS
TALKING ABOUT IS DOING THAT NEXT
LEVEL OF RECYCLING IN TERMS OF
REFINING THE MATERIAL SO THAT WE
CAN USE IT. IMMEDIATELY THAT IN
MANUFACTURING SO THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT UPDATE IT'S CONSISTENT
WITH THE EGG EXISTING- E. WASTE
RECYCLING LAW- AND WE'RE URGING
SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. THANK YOU
. ALL RIGHT OTHER FOLKS WHO WANT
TO WIN SUPPORT. OPPOSITION
BECAUSE THE PHONE LINES- PEOPLE
OPINIONS ABOUT- SB FIVE SIXTY
EIGHT. THOSE WHO LIKE TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN SIR WITH THIS
TIME. THANK YOU MISTER
CHARACTERS SERVICE NO ONE IS
SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. ON THE RECORD OKAY LET'S-
LET'S NOT GONNA COMMITTEE. BUT
CERTAIN. REAL QUICK. I LIKE YOUR
BILL. I DID A BILL TO YEARS AGO
TO FIND OUT WHERE SOLAR PANELS
RISK ACTUALLY GOT A BACK
SURROUNDED RUNNING ABILITY DEAL
WITH THAT ONE QUICK QUESTION
KNOWS. THIS IS. DIVIDED BETWEEN
. K. IT WILL BE COULD RECYCLING
AND WASTE HAULING AND THERE'S A
FINE THAT'S THE ONE THING I'D
THERE'S A THOUSAND DOLLAR FINE I
BELIEVE IF THEY'RE NOT IN
COMPLIANCE WHERE WOULD WERE THAT
FINE GO. THEIR LIMITED DEFERRED
I THINK MR MURRAY AB. DGSE ALL
THE- SO ALL WHO I'M SORRY IT SO
I'VE THINK RIGHT NOW THE RED. OF
THE EXPORT IS A DTS THE
RESPONSIBILITY AND SO
POTENTIALLY THAT WOULD GO- TO
DTS C. AS THE ENTITY THAT ONE
REPORTS THIS BUT THE- AND WHAT
IS A GOOD USE FOR. WHAT ARE THE
WHAT ARE THE FUNDS THE FIRE
OFFICER SHOW THE SENATE ERIN. I
MEAN I WE BUT YOU HAVE TO DETAIL
IT WILL BE WORKED OUT LATER IS
PART OF A LARGE FRAMEWORK RATE
SO IT DOES HAVE A SHE FINDS AS
POSSIBLE OBVIOUSLY TO MR
MURRAY'S EARLY POINT. THE THERE
WAS AN AFFIDAVIT. THE YOU KNOW
SORT OF- STEP WHERE IF YOU IF
YOU WANTED TO. DISPOSE OF THE
WASTE YOU SIMPLY ADD AFFIDAVIT.
TO THERE IS GOING TO A MARKET
WILL BE PROPERLY DISPOSED OF
UNDER YOU KNOW AGAINST. CONFORM
TO THE STANDARDS THAT CLEARLY
NOT THE CASE- AND SO THE ALSO
HERE IS TO CREATE A DOMESTIC
INDUSTRY TO RATED CENTERS TO DO
THAT IF YOU CAN DO THAT USE A
SNOW WE SOLVE THE PROBLEM WE ARE
CREATING A DO YOU KNOW. A REALLY
VIABLE NEW INDUSTRIES. YEAH I'M
IN SUPPORT OF THAT I THINK WE
HOPEFULLY WILL DO IT HERE IN
CALIFORNIA WHICH WERE GENERATING
AND CREATE THE JOBS BUT IT'S
VERY HARD TO GET PERMITTED. THE
PROJECT EL CHICO'S SHOW THAT
CENTERS AROUND HAVE BEEN AYE
BOTH VISITED FACILITY DOWN
SOUTH- THAT'S DOING THIS
COMPLETELY YOU KNOW IT COURTS
WITH LOCAL ENVIRONMENT PRUNING
RULES. THAT USES LIKE ON AN
AMAZING- LOW AMOUNT OF WATER-
AND THEN TURNS E. WASTE INTO
MARKETABLE ELEMENTS FROM THERE.
SO THE TECHNOLOGY EXISTS BUT A
BUT WE HAVE TO CREATE INCENTIVES
TO GUIDE THAT HE WAS IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION. RIGHT AWESOME
THANK YOU. YEAH IT'S IS A FAST
FACILITY I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO GO
OFF IT TO DOING I GET OUT OF THE
DIFFERENTLY MINING E. WASTE.
RIGHT AND DOING ITS SITUATED
THIRTY SAW INVITE PROBLEM AT
THIS TIME PRETTY COOL. SENTIMENT
FOR. THANK THAT'S REALLY
EXCITING I MEAN. INTERESTING
HERE- I CENTER DALITS AWAY FROM
QUESTIONS I'LL START THE SAME
CORE. MY THIRD. IS REALLY SMALL
JUST MY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE. THE
THOUSAND DOLLAR. IS IT FOR. I
FIGURED. INDIVIDUAL CAN A FULL
CAN IT'S- YOU I THINK IT'S PER.
LEE VIOLATES FOUND THE CREEK
FROM RAW- I A ON THE I. D. TO
ITEMS COMING. THEY COME BY THE
TIME I THINK INTENT IS FOR IT TO
BE MARK. KILLED GUESS WHY THE
ENTIRE IS THE BY. BUT I JUST
WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE- FOR
HERE IS THE- IT VOTE FOR RIGHT
NOW ORDER TO PROTEST. IN THE E.
WASTE PROGRAM IF YOU'RE A
COLLECTOR IF YOU'RE A RECYCLER
IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN
GET THE MONEY FROM THAT EXISTING
E. WASTE RECYCLING PROGRAM. BOB
YOU HAVE TO PLAY BY THE RULES
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE DRIVER
MORE THAN ANY FINE IS BASICALLY
SAYING IF YOU WANT TO GET THAT
THOSE FUNDS UNDER THIS EXISTING
PROGRAM. YOU WANT TO MOVE YOUR
MATERIAL THROUGH THE SYSTEM I
THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE
VALUABLE THAT INCENTIVE IN
EXISTING LAWS COULD BE MORE FOR
VALUABLE. FINDS HOPEFULLY NO ONE
WILL EVER GET A FINE BECAUSE THE
BE DRIVEN BY THE INCENTIVES THAT
IS OUR GOAL BY MIGHT HAPPEN SO I
WOULD LOVE FOR JUST. THE SECOND
SOME LANGUAGE OF WHERE THAT'S
GOING TO BE PLACED AND HOW IT'S
GOING TO BE USED AS FOR GO AGAIN
I'M GLAD TO WORK WORK ON. SHIFTS
THANK GOD LOVE TO AYE AYE BY
REAL DID ENJOY I GOT I GOT A
CAN'T- AND- ENOUGH I REALLY
MEMBER IF YOU TO YOU'RE DOWN IN
A COUNTY. SAN TO GO CHECK OUT IS
SO IT'S REALLY FAST AND- YOU
KNOW THEY BELIEVE. HELP TO MAKE
SURE THAT THERE THEY'RE BROUGHT
INTO THE STORE HERE AND THERE
OTHER FOR. TO THE OF COURSE WILL
BE ABLE TO- TO ME AT TO. THANK
YOU REGISTER WE CAN. MAKE SURE
THAT WERE BEING. ABOUT ABOUT.
EIGHT JUST TO MEET THE AMOUNT OF
PRECIOUS METALS. ANY WASTE THAT
IS NOT BEING RECLAIMED BECAUSE
THERE REALLY ISN'T AN EFFECTIVE.
INITIATIVE WASTE STREAM- AND
SEVEN CENTS TO DO THAT IS REALLY
IMMENSE YEAH AND IT'S ACTUALLY
MORE PROFITABLE TO MINE HE WASTE
IF YOU DO IT RIGHT THEN IS TO
MINE GOLD. AND THAT TELLS YOU
SOMETHING. EXTRA FOR ****. ALL
RIGHT. FIVE MOVED BY CENTER
DOLLY AND- LET'S KALRA. THE
MOTIONS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE CENTERS
ALAN HI ALAN I'D- DALY. DOLLY I
. GONZALEZ. RAMON ANGELA.
MENJIVAR I WHEN. SKINNER WHEN I
SKINNER I. THE BILL HAS FIVE
VOTES ON CALL. OKAY MEMBERS.
THANK YOU THINK YOU SENATE- OKAY
. YEAH THANK YOU THEY GIVE US
VICE CHAIR R. LET'S- LET'S NOT
LET'S LISTEN CALLS IN CONFERENCE
WITH I KNOW ONE- DOCTORS IS SET
AS THIRTY TWO. THE CURRENT
VOTERS TO SHARE VOTING VOTING
VICE CHAIR VOTING. SENATE
SKINNER. I WHICH IS. OF NO YEAH
. SKINNER IS NOW. THANKS TO THE
AND THAT'S EVERYBODY VOTING OKAY
MANY CLOSER ON ITEM YES GOOD
ITEMS TO SAID JOE BACKER I SPEAK
OH EIGHT- VOTERS. FOR TWO TO.
CHIU FORTY NINE BY SERRANO
CENTER SKINNER. I SKINNER I'D
THE ABOUT FIVE TWO OKAY TWO
BECAUSE ROLL ON THAT IT'S OUT
ITEMS. AS THREE NINE BY ONLY.
CURRENT POTUS THREE ZERO. SIX
BUT SHE HASN'T I THINK YOU ARE
VOTED. I'M SORRY ON- THAT
INVOLVE THE BACKUP. I HAVE
EVERYBODY DO MEMBER I. YEAH I
LIVE TO CALL FOR TO AND FIRST
TWO YOU'RE RIGHT. OVER JUST
THOSE FIRST TWO YEAH FROM ON OUT
WE CLOSE EXCEPT THOSE THEIR-
VOTED. NO THANK YOU THANKS FOR
UTILITIES- OKAY I AM THREE SB
THREE NINETY BY THE ON. THE
CURRENT VOTE IS THREE TWO ZERO
THE CHURCH VOTING ON A VICE
CHAIR NOT CENTERS GOING TO. BUT
WHEN. SKINNER I SKINNER I. SO
THE NOW HAS FOUR ACCOUNT. BACK
ON CALL WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR
ON- AS FOUR FIFTEEN TO RISE SO.
CURRENT IS THREE TO ONE SHARE
VOTING NINE FIVE SURE VOTING NO
CENTERS GONZALEZ WHEN. SKINNER I
SKINNER NAY. THANKS FOR SURE ONE
ON CALL BACK ON CALL OKAY LET'S
GO NOW TO. SPEAK TWENTY POINT.
KERBER FIVE TO ZERO OF CHAIRED
BY VOTING HIGH SENATOR WHEN.
WHEN I SKINNER. ALL RIGHT
SKINNER HI THE BILL HAS OUT WITH
SEVEN ZERO GREAT OKAY NOW TO- SB
. THIRTY EIGHT BY CABALLERO. THE
CURRENT VOTE FIVE TWO ZERO.
SHARE VICE CHAIR OF HI SIR CAN.
YEAH SKINNER HI SKINNER. THAT IS
SIX ZERO THAT'S NOT ZERO NOW CAN
CALENDAR. EARNS CONSERVE
CALENDAR IT DOES CENTERS. WHEN I
MEAN I SKINNER. SKINNER I THE
BILL BECAUSE BY ON CALL TO GO
BACK CALL THAT- BLAKE'S BEER AS
FIVE ELEVEN ITEM NINE EXTRA KERR
VOTERS FOR HIS TWO A CHERUB SURE
VOTING. SINNERS BECAUSE- WHEN.
THIS.
THE LAYERED FELL ITEM TEN. THE
CURRENT VOTERS FOR TWO ZERO
CHARITY NIGHT THE VICE YOU'RE
NOT VOTING CENTERS SKINNER
SKINNER HI. THE BILL IS- SIX OUT
OF SIXTY ZERO TO SIXTY SIX ZERO
I MEAN I'M SURPRISED ME FIVE
ZERO FIVE ZERO ABOUT OKAY WE'RE
GOING TO NEWMAN- FIVE SIXTY WITH
AYE I THINK I MIGHT PUT IN FOR
THAT. EXAM ON A CALL- GONZALEZ.
STR TO. AND MISTER CURB FOR ONE
OF GERMANY'S I ADVISED VOTING
SENATOR NGUYEN. THE NO SKIN.
SKINNER HI OKAY SKINNER DID FOR
ON THE MIDDLE JUST TO CLARIFY
YEAH AND THEN BILLS OUT FOR A
FIGHT TO. THE DOLLARS BILL AS
HERE TO OKAY GREAT AND FINALLY
AS YOU SEVEN ON A ALLEN. SEVEN
OH NINE OUT THE CURRENT BILL
JUST TO CHAIRMAN I CHAIR OF THE
NO SAN CONSOLE. LIMÓN SKINNER.
SKINNER ON THE GO BACK ON CALL
THREE TO TWO OKAY. ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU SO MUCH WILL TAKE
EVERY RECESS AND THANK YOU.
THE CALL ON ITEM ELEVEN FIVE
SIXTY EIGHT I THINK LEÓN IS TO
ADD ON TO NUMBER SIXTEEN IS THAT
RIGHT. LAST THE LAST TWO OKAY SO
. NEWMAN INVALIDATE YEAH OKAY
FOR ASSISTANCE IN ON IT OKAY
LET'S LIFT THE CALL FIVE SIXTY
EIGHT CURRENT VOTERS FIVE ZERO
SELLER'S GONZALEZ LOAN HI LIMÓN
I LIKE TO KNOW WHEN FROM RIGHT
TO KNOW HOW CAN WILL LEAVE THAT-
OPEN FOR SENATORS OUT ON TIME TO
WOMEN I DON'T SIXTEEN SB SEVEN
OH NINE TALENT. I AM COMING IN
THE ITEM SIX FILE SIX SIXTY
YEARS. OKAY CURRENT VOTERS TODAY
IS THREE TWO TWO CAN LIMÓN LIMÓN
HI. OKAY REALLY THAT FOR IS ALSO
PLEASE GO- I THINK SHE'S ON HER
WAY. DURING THIS ONE MOMENT MAKE
SURE A MOMENT. FROM OKAY I DO.
WHERE IS THE.
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU SO MUCH
CENTERS ON THE PROCEDURE FOR
PARENTS AND I KNOW YOU HAD A BIG
PRESS CONFERENCE THANK YOU FOR
COMING BACK- LET'S OPEN THIS
REOPEN THE ROLE ON THOSE ITEMS
WHERE YOU HAVE NOT HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY VOTE LET'S START
WITH ITEMS THREE THAT'S SB THREE
NINETY BY THE MOMENT. THE REST
OF DALY GONZALEZ I CONSULT I
WHEN OKAY WE'LL CLOSE NINE ON AT
A BILL OUT I DO ERA FIVE TWO
ZERO NO IT'S GOOD ITEM FOR THE
IS US BEFORE FIFTEEN BY TO
CURRENT VOTERS FOR ONE CENTRES
GONZALEZ HI GONZALEZ I WHEN. BOB
DYLAN GREAT THANK YOU- THAT WHY
THEY WANTED TO LET'S GO THE
CONSENT CALENDAR I DON'T SEE
FIFTEEN SENATOR DAINES I DON'T I
WAS OUT SEVEN ZERO IS NOT
SEVENTY NOTABLY SPEAR S. B. FIVE
ELEVEN I NINE PLACE CURRENT
VOTERS HERE SEVEN GUNS I
GONZALEZ I TELL SEVEN SEVENS
THANK THAT'S NEXT TO ALLOW SB
FIVE SIX EIGHT NEW. CURRENT
VOTERS FIVE TWO ONE SENATOR
GONZALEZ. I DON'T I. SIXTY ONE
SIXTY ONE THAT'S OUT NOW FOR-
OUR SIXTY. SB SEVEN. CURRENT
VOTERS FORTY TWO SET KINDS. HI
GONZALEZ I THINK. THE PASSENGER
THE YOU FOR COME BACK REAL DO
PRINCE IT. AND- THAT DID BE
THINK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF ALL
THE HIGH WORK GOING INTO THIS
YEAR WITHOUT BIG ONE UP NEXT
WEEK. AND THEN WORLD FOR THIS.
STAGE THAT THAN THE TWO CONTENT
THE FAMILY. WE WILL GRANT WE CAN
. ON ITEM THAT SAYS FUTURE TWO
BY WE'RE GONNA READ THE GRANT WE
CAN WITHOUT OBJECTION. SIMILAR
WILL GRANT SB THIRTY TWO WE CAN
. AND WITH THAT. WE WILL WE WILL
CALL THIS. HEARING OF THE ROOM
QUALITY COMMITTEE ADJOURNED.
THANK.