THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON BUSINESS
PROFESSIONS AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT WILL COME TO ORDER
GOOD AFTERNOON OR THIS ACTUALLY
GOOD MORNING- THE SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
IN PERSON AND ON THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT THE PARTICIPANT
NUMBER IS 877-226-8216 IN THE
ACCESS CODE IS. 621-716-1621
SEVEN ONE SIX ONE. WE'RE HOLDING
OUR COMMITTEE HEARING TODAY IN
THE TEN TWENTY ONE- ST LOCATION
I'D ASK THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE REPORT TO ROOM TWENTY
ONE HUNDRED SO WE CAN ESTABLISH
A QUORUM. WE HAVE ELEVEN BILLS
ON TODAY'S AGENDA WE'RE GONNA
WAIT FOR A QUORUM UNTIL WE
SECURE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS BUT WE
DO HAVE AN AUTHOR. ELLEN YOU
HAVE ONE BILL TODAY. PLEASE
PROCEED IN READING I DO THANK
YOU SO MUCH MISTER I GUESS I
SHOULD SAY THIS IS SENATE BILL
TWO EIGHT FIVE ITEM NUMBER ONE
YES. WELL THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
AND MEMBERS I DO WANT TO GIVE
SPECIAL THANKS TO THE STAFF FOR
THE HARD WORK ON PULLING
TOGETHER THE VERY EXCELLENT
ANALYSIS THAT I READ THE PARK
YESTERDAY WITH MY SON. SO. HI
AHMED UNDER EXISTING LAW LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS ARE ALLOWED TO
AUTHORIZE THE- SMOKING
VAPORIZING AND INGESTING OF
CANNABIS AND CANNABIS PROJECTS
ON THE PREMISES OF A LICENSED
RETAILER OR MICRO BUSINESS.
WHICH IS WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS A
CANNABIS CONSUMPTION LOUNGE. NOW
CURRENCY REGULATION PREVENTS
THESE LOUNGES FROM PREPARING AND
SELLING FRESHLY MADE FOOD AND
BEVERAGES. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO
HAVE A PRE PACKAGED ITEMS- BUT
THEY CAN'T BE FRESH. EVEN IF
THEIR LOCAL JURISDICTION WOULD
OTHERWISE ALLOW THEM TO. SO THE
IDEA IS THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO
CHANGE THE RULES THIS THIS- THE
D. YEAH THESE ARE FRESHLY MADE
ITEMS WOULD BE NON CANNABIS
INFUSED AB NON ALCOHOLIC.
ESSENTIALLY NOTHING MORE THAN
THE- THE KINDS OF FOODS YOU
MIGHT FIND A BAR- LIKE A BURGER
AND FRIES I THIS IS CREATED
COSTLY AND CUMBERSOME
WORKAROUNDS TO PROVIDE GAS WITH
THE EXPECTED EXPERIENCE BY
EITHER TAKING OUT TO PROPERLY
YOUR PROPERTY LEASES. OR HAVING
YOUR FOOD ITEMS DELIVERED IN
FROM OUTSIDE VENDORS AND
ACTUALLY MIGHT. WITNESS FROM THE
WEST HOLLYWOOD CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF
THE BIZARRE HOOPS THAT
BUSINESSES ARE HAVING TO GO
THROUGH. IN ORDER TO- TO COMPLY
WITH THE LAW. I HAD TO DRESS THE
BILL WOULD ALLOW FROM A LOCAL
JURISDICTION TO ALLOW FOR THESE
CONCEPTUALIZE TO PREPARE AND
SERVE FRESH MEAT ITEMS WELL
INITIALLY EXTENDING THE ABILITY.
TO SELL PREPACKAGED ITEMS ANY
CANNABIS RETAILER. WHAT'S AGAIN
THIS IS THIS THIS JUST GIVES
THEM THE POWER TO THE LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS TO MAKE THAT
JUDGMENT CALL. THERE'S BEEN SOME
YOU KNOW CLAIMS MADE THAT THIS.
HI REVERSES IN A PREVIOUS
AGREEMENTS WITH REGARDS TO LOCAL
CONTROL AND YOU KNOW IT JUST NOT
THE CASE THIS THIS IS. THE LOCAL
JURISDICTION THE LOCAL
JURISDICTION WILL STILL HAVE THE
POWER TO MAKE THE DECISION HERE
WOULD IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO
ALLOW. FOR THE PREPARATION
SERVING OF A FRESH FRESH FOOD AT
THESE. LOUNGES IT DOESN'T
LEGALIZE INDOOR SMOKING AS
EXISTING STATUTE PROVIDES LOCALS
WITH THE ABILITY TO AUTHORIZED
OPERATION OF CONFECTIONERIES
ALREADY. ARE THE BILL CAN YOU
DOESN'T DO ANYTHING BEYOND
PROVIDING LOCAL AUTHORITIES WITH
DECISION MAKING POWER OVER FOOD
AND BEVERAGE SALES. NON
ALCOHOLIC. BY LICENSE RETAILERS
IN THEIR JURISDICTION. THESE ARE
DEVELOPING SMALL BUSINESSES-
THIS BILL SEEKING TO SUPPORT
THEM IN OPERATING AS INTENDED
WHILE RETAINING THE RESPECTFUL
CONTROL. PROVIDED THROUGH PROP
SIXTY FOUR. AND IT'S FOR THAT
REASON THAT THE BILL HAS.
GARNERED BROAD SUPPORT FROM THE
CANNABIS INDUSTRY- BUT ALSO-
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK DR- AND WITH ME
HERE TODAY I HAVE JACQUI C. BACK
WHO'S COME FROM OUR SPONSOR. THE
WEST HOLLYWOOD CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE. PLEASE PROCEED THANK
YOU TWENTY TO ROTH MANY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
JACKIE CIVIC A CANNABIS POLICY
ADVOCATE BASED IN WEST
HOLLYWOOD. I'D LIKE TO FIRST
TAKE A QUICK SECOND A
THINKCENTRE ALAN FOR HIS
DEDICATION TO THIS BILL AS WELL
AS THE WEST HOLLYWOOD CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE FOR THEIR UNWAVERING
COMMITMENT. TO HELPING OUR SMALL
BUSINESSES. I CANNABIS LOUNGES
ARE STILL VERY NEW AND
PIONEERING CONCEPT HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. WITH THE PASSING OF
PROP SIXTY FOUR LEGALIZING
CANNABIS IN THE STATE. THE RIGHT
TO ESTABLISH CONSUMPTION LOUNGES
WAS HANDED OVER TO LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS DECIDE WHAT WAS
BEST FOR THEIR COMMUNITY. SOME
CHOSE TO HAVE SMALL SMOKING
ROOMS ADJACENT TO THE RETAIL
STORES WHILE OTHERS SUCH AS WEST
HOLLYWOOD SAN FRANCISCO OAKLAND
IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY. DESIRE
TO MORE EXPERIENTIAL BUSINESS
MODEL FOR LICENSES TO CREATE A
RESTAURANT LOUNGE SIMILAR TO A
BAR OR RESTAURANT SITUATION
WHERE A CUSTOMER CAN ENJOY A
MEAL OF BEVERAGE AND CONSUME
CANNABIS. ALL UNDER THE SAME
ROOF SB TWO EIGHTY FIVE WILL
OPEN UP THE VIABILITY FOR THIS
TO HAPPEN. AS IT STANDS TODAY
ALLOWS LICENSEE WHO IS SEEKING
OUT A LEASE FOR THEIR FUTURE
BUSINESS. DOES NOT EVEN KNOW IF
THEY NEED A KITCHEN OR NOT
ULTIMATELY MAKING IT QUITE
CHALLENGING TO DEVELOP A
REALISTIC BUSINESS PLAN. THAT
OFFERS THE ABILITY TO THRIVE AND
HOPEFULLY PROSPER. THIS BILL
WILL ALLOW THESE LOUNGES TO
DETERMINE THE RIGHT LEASE FOR
THEIR BUSINESS AHEAD OF TIME.
AND IF THEY CHOOSE HIGHER CHEF
TO PREPARE FRESH NON CANNABIS
VIEW FOOD AND NON ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES. FOR THE HUNGRY AND
THIRSTY CUSTOMERS. CURRENTLY
STATE PARK REGULATIONS PREVENT
ANY LEGAL CANNABIS SALES. AFTER
TEN PM. SB TWO EIGHTY FIVE WILL
MAKE IT FEASIBLE FOR LOUNGES TO
REMAIN OPEN UNTIL TWO AM WITHOUT
CANNABIS SALES. BUT WILL OFFER
THEM FOR ADDITIONAL HOURS EACH
NIGHT. TO SELL FOOD AND BEVERAGE
THAT'S TWENTY EIGHT HOURS OF
ADDITIONAL REVENUE EACH WEEK
WHICH IS A LITERAL GAME CHANGER.
ADDITIONALLY THIS BILL WILL
ENHANCE THE ABILITIES OF OUR
CANNABIS RETAILERS WHO ARE
STRUGGLING DAILY TO MAKE ENDS
MEET. TO BE ABLE TO SELL PRE
PACKAGED FOOD AND NON ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES TO CUSTOMERS. WILL BE
ABLE TO PURCHASE A COMPUTER OUR
BAG OF CHIPS OR EVEN A GRAB AND
GO SANDWICH. ALONGSIDE THEIR
CANNABIS PURCHASES. SIMPLY PUT
AT ADDITIONAL READ STREAM IN THE
FOOD AND BEVERAGE. PROMOTES
ECONOMIC VIABILITY ACROSS THE
BOARD TO OUR RETAIL STORES AND
LOUNGES. GIVING THEM MORE
RELIABLE REVENUE STREAMS AS WELL
AS OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE
IN THE NIGHT LIFE OF THEIR
COMMUNITY. BY NOT HAVING TO SHUT
THEIR DOORS EARLY BECAUSE THEY
HAVE NOTHING ELSE THEY'RE
LEGALLY ALLOWED TO SELL. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU. ARE
THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN THE
HEARING ROOM WHICH TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL TWO
EIGHTY FIVE. NAME AFFILIATION
POSITION PLEASE GOOD MORNING
TURN MEMBERS ANDREA DEVOE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
CANNABIS MANUFACTURERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. THING NONE LET'S MOVE
TO ANY LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESSES
. IN THE LEAD UP POSITION
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM. ANY OTHER
PLEASE STEP FORWARD. MISTER
CHAIR MEMBERS ANDREW ENTRY HERE
TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN
HEART ASSOCIATION. AND FRANKLY
WE HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE
AUTHOR HE'S VERY THOUGHTFUL. BUT
WE JUST DISAGREE ON EXACTLY HOW
THIS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED AND
WHETHER OR NOT A VIOLATES THE
INTENT. OF PROPOSITION SIXTY
FOUR- UNDER THE BASIS OF OUR
OPPOSITION- WE POINT OUT THAT IN
TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN CALIFORNIA
PASSED PROP SIXTY FOUR
LEGALIZING ADULT USE. AN EFFORT
TO CONTINUE WORKING PROTECTIONS
. OUR GROUPS AND OTHERS WORK
CLOSELY WITH PROPONENTS OF SIXTY
FOUR TO ENSURE THAT THE SAME
SAFETY GUIDELINES WERE PUT IN
PLACE HOWEVER THIS MEASURE WILL
UNDERMINE THESE PROTECTIONS. PUT
THOUSANDS OF WORKERS WERE
CONCERNED. ADDRESS BY ALLOWING
THE PREPARATION SO OF NON
CANNABIS FOOD. IN BUILDINGS
WHERE SMOKING AND VAPING
CANNABIS. AND CANNABIS PRODUCTS
IS LOW. FROM THE SPACES WHERE
POST. THANK YOU SIR ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. LET'S
TURN TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA THE TELECONFERENCE
ORVIS MODERATOR PLEASE PROMPT.
ANY INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO SENATE BILL TWO EIGHTY FIVE.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THEM. THANK YOU
MISTER IF YOUR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THE SP TWO EIGHT
FIVE PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED
BY ZEROS THIS TIME WHEN FILED BY
ZERO. JUST AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH
A ONE FORTY YOUR ALL SET. GOOD
MORNING IS ARKANSAS THAT RECORD
UNITED CAN DIDN'T ASSOCIATION
ALSO READ. THE COUNTRY KIND OF
RETAIL ALIGN AS WELL THE LONGER
COLLECTOR STUFF HERE ALL BEFORE
OF THIS BILL THANK YOU FOR YOU
NEXT PLEASE. I NEXT WILL LINE
THIRTY FOR YOUR OPEN. HELLO THIS
- LEN SILVER FROM THE HEALTH.
SPEAKING OFFICE TO THIS BILL.
THANK YOU MA'AM NEXT PLEASE.
WE'LL GO TO LINE TWO NINE PLEASE
GO AHEAD. BY TWENTY NINE YOU ARE
OPEN. ARE YOU MUTED LINE TWENTY
NINE. YES I AM HELLO THIS IS
MICHAEL LONG ON BEHALF ANGELES
THEIR MULTICULTURAL EQUITY LA
CALIFORNIA MINORITY ALLIANCE.
HOLDEN STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU
THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE. MY ELEVEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO THIS IS
RAMAN FROM THE END- CALLING ON
BEHALF OF A COACHELLA VALLEY
CANNABIS ALLIANCE NETWORK. AND
I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE
. WHY SIXTEEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI THIS IS GENEVIEVE MORAL
PRESIDENCY YOU KNOW THE WORD
PROBABLY WOULD CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE IN FULL- SUPPORT SB YOU
READY FIVE ON BEHALF OF LIKE
HOLDERS. THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE.
MY THIRD TO YOUR OFFICE. HELLO
THIS IS CARLOS SALVATORE FROM
CORNERSTONE WELLNESS YOU COULD
BE A TRADE ASSOCIATION. IN THE
OF THE BILL. THANK YOU PLEASE.
WE'LL GET ONE FINAL REMINDER ONE
FELL BY ZERO YOURS. OR
OPPOSITION TO S. B. TWO EIGHT
FIVE ANALYZE THIRTY SEVEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. HELLO HI MY NAME IS
ADAM JUDGING I'M A LOBBY TO
COLLECT THOSE- WE JUST WANTED
TO- OUR VOICE OUR SUPPORT FOR
THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU
NEXT PLEASE. MISTER CHAIR WE
HAVE EXHAUSTED Q. THANK YOU
LET'S NOT BRING THE CONVERSATION
BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE
DICE COLLEAGUES ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. A QUESTION FOR THE-
AUTHOR. PLEASE PROCEED. YEAH GET
EXPRESS ON MY BILLION. YEAH
ISRAEL THIS PROJECT AT GOOD
SENATOR LOTT OF SUPPORT NO DE-
IT YOUR MY CONCERN WOULD BE
ADDITIONAL DRINKING. OR- ARENE
OR WIKIMEDIA SEE ANY OF THAT-
DID YOU DID YOU LOOK INTO THAT I
KNOW THE CHAMBERS BEHIND YOU
WHICH IS GREAT- IN AND I'M GOING
TO SUPPORT THE BILL'S MATTER
FACT WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE OR
MOVE IT- I'M JUST CONCERNED
ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES IN THE-
MILLING AROUND A NORMALLY IT'S-
IN. BY THE PRODUCT AND GONE. HE
SAID THIS SAID THAT WOULD BE MY
CONCERN SO WE ARE TALK ABOUT
DISPENSARIES YEAH THESE ARE
LOUNGES AND THESE EXIST RIGHT
NOW. FOR PEOPLE GOING TO HANG
OUT. I AND- SO THIS TOTALLY
DIFFERENT IN THE SPENCER OKAY
LOUNGES. TO CANNABIS
CONSUMPTION. AND THE IDEA IS
THAT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT YOU
KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO
GIVE YOU PACKAGE FOOD BUT THEY
CAN'T GIVE YOU FRESH WITH. AND
BEST YET IN IN IN THEIR LED TO
GIVE YOU. A RIGHT SO WE WOULD
ALLOW FRESH FOOD AND NON
ALCOHOLIC DRINKS- CATALANS JUST
AT THE LOUNGE OKAY I'M IN FACT
IF ANYTHING. LET'S BE HONEST
HAVING ALL THE FOOD- WHEN YOU'RE
YOU KNOW- INGESTING CANNABIS
ACTUALLY LEADS TO SAFER BEHAVIOR
ULTIMATELY THEN NO FOOD. OKAY-
SOUTH. I'VE THAT TO BE THESE ARE
NOT JUST. ARE ALLOWED TO ARE
CAN'T BECAUSE TAX RETURN. THANK
YOU ALSO TO MOVE THE BILL. BUT
WE DON'T CALL HAVE A QUORUM YET
FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. OKAY SERONOK CLOSE
YEAH I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION-
THE APPRECIATE THAT THE
DISCUSSION I I'M CERTAINLY- ALSO
ALSO WE DEFINITELY WE YOU KNOW
WE- WE JUST GOT THE LETTER FROM.
THE FROM ANDERS FOLKS AND REALLY
WANT TO TALK TO HIM AND GET TO
AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET-
ANY ISSUES RESOLVED BUT I'M ONCE
AGAIN THIS IS THIS JUST GIVES.
THAT THE LOCAL JURISDICTION THE
RIGHT TO ALLOW FOR FRESH FOOD
RIGHT NOW IT'S PACKAGED AND IT'S
JUST THAT THESE LOUNGES- SO
THANK YOU TO THE CHAMBER THANK
YOU TO THE CITY AND ALL THE
FOLKS WHO SUPPORTED I CERTAINLY
ASK FOR I'VE VOTE WHEN. THE TIME
COMES THANK SENATOR SAYS WE HAVE
A QUORUM WILL TAKE IT UP THANK
YOU THINK YOU'RE SUBJECT. I
DON'T SEE ANY OTHER OF AUTHORS
WHO WERE- NOT COMMITTEE MEMBERS
SO SENATOR ARRIVAL GILLIERON
DECK. I DON'T NUMBER TEN SENATE
BILL EIGHT TWO ZERO CANNABIS
ENFORCEMENT SEIZURE OF PROPERTY
. COLLEAGUES SIR ALAN. LET YOU
BORROW THE COMMITTEE MEMBER. IF
SHE WISHES. RECEIVE READY THING
YOU MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE- I'M HERE TO
PRESENT ON SENATE BILL EIGHT
TWENTY CANNABIS ENFORCEMENT
FUTURE PROPERTY. ILLEGAL
CANNABIS ECOSYSTEM HAS CAUSED
MAJOR ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL
DAMAGE HERE IN CALIFORNIA. MANY
OF THE STATE'S ESTIMATED FIFTY
THOUSAND ILLEGAL CULTIVATION
SITES HAVE BEEN FOUND USING
BANDED BANNED PESTICIDES THAT
CAN POISON WILDLIFE AND WATER
SUPPLIES AND ARE BELIEVED TO
ACCOUNT FOR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
OF GALLONS OF WATER STOLEN FROM
FARMS. AND NEIGHBORING
COMMUNITIES EACH YEAR. SENATE
BILL EIGHT TWENTY SIMPLY ADOPTS
THE SAME CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE
PROCESSES CURRENTLY APPLICABLE
TO UNLICENSED MANUFACTURING
MANUFACTURING ALCOHOL ALCOHOL.
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES A KNOWN AS
MOONSHINING TO APPLY TO
UNLICENSED COMMERCIAL CANNABIS
ACTIVITIES SEVEN SUMMARY. SAME
CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE
PROCEDURES CURRENTLY APPLICABLE
TO AND LICENSE MANUFACTURING OF
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES WILL APPLY
TO UNLICENSED COMMERCIAL
CANNABIS ACTIVITIES. THE PURPOSE
OF THIS BILL IS TO ACT AS A
DETERRENT TO OTHER ILLICIT
OPERATORS AND PROMOTE ENTRANCE
INTO THE LEGAL REGULATED
CANNABIS MARKET. THIS BILL WOULD
UPON A JUDGMENT IN FAVOR OF THE
FORFEITURE ALLOW THESE ASSETS TO
BE SOLD AT PUBLIC AUCTIONS BY
THE DEPARTMENT OF CANNABIS
CONTROL. OR BY THE LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS. THE REMAINING
FUNDS WOULD BE DEPOSITED INTO
THE CANNABIS CONTROL FUND WHICH
IS USED TO CARRY OUT PROVISIONS
OF THE CALIFORNIA CANNABIS
EQUITY ACT. BASED ON A PUBLIC
HEARING THAT WE HAD HERE- IN
COMMITTEE- I SAW THE NEED TO
HAVE MORE FUNDS ALLOCATED
TOWARDS OUR SEX SOCIAL EQUITY
PROGRAMS AND TO HELP ENHANCE THE
ABILITY OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS
OWNERS THAT ARE DOING IT THE
RIGHT WAY. THAT ARE PURSUING
LEGAL BUSINESSES AND TO HAVE
ACCESS TO THOSE SOCIAL EQUITY
FUNDS SO A PORTION OF THESE
FUNDS WOULD BE DEDICATED TO
FINDING. OUT THAT PROGRAM. IT'S
VITAL TO NOT ONLY SHUT DOWN OR
BAD ACTORS- BUT TO SUPPORT
LICENSED CANNABIS BUSINESSES
THAT ENHANCE RELIABLE ACCESS TO
REGULATED. TESTED CANNABIS IN
THE LEGAL MARKET. I HAVE A HERE
TESTIFIED IS THERE A TICKET FROM
A RURAL COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES
OF CALIFORNIA. MISTER COULD
PLEASE PROCEED THE MORNING CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS EXISTING LAW
AUTHORIZES THE SEIZURE OF
PROPERTIES IN CONJUNCTION WITH
UNLICENSED MANUFACTURE OF HARD
LIQUOR. UNLIKE DRUG SEIZURES
STATUTES THESE LAWS ARE ADAPTED
TO THE FACT THE ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES ARE NOT INHERENTLY
UNLAWFUL. NO CRIMINAL NO
CRIMINAL CONVICTION IS REQUIRED
AND ANYONE WITH AN INTEREST IN
THE PROPERTY IS GIVEN AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE IN CIVIL
PROCEEDINGS OF THE PROPERTY WAS
NOT USED UNLAWFULLY. SB EIGHT
TWENTY PROPOSES TO ADOPT SIMILAR
PROVISIONS FOR AND MY SIS CAMPUS
ACTIVITIES. A RECENT RAN OUT
RECENT RECENT REPORT STATED THAT
TWO THIRDS OF ALL SALES OF
CAMPUS IN CALIFORNIA ARE
CONDUCTED IN THE ILLEGAL MARKET.
THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT MAN'S
PROBLEM HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED IN
RECENT ARTICLES IN LA TIMES AS
WELL CALMATTERS. WILL
COMMUNITIES EVEN THE ONES WITH
THE MOST EXPANSIVE ALLOWANCES
FOR LEGAL OPERATORS HAVE BEEN
INUNDATED WITH UNLICENSED
UNREGULATED CANNABIS ACTIVITY
THAT IS UNDERMINING THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY SAFETY OF RESIDENTS.
AND ARE REGULATED CANNABIS
BUSINESSES FREQUENTLY COUNTIES
ARE GETTING CALLS WITHIN TWENTY
FOUR TO FORTY EIGHT HOURS AFTER
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS THAT THESE
BAD ACTORS ARE UP IN BUSINESS. I
CAN BUSINESS THE REALITY
UNFORTUNATELY IS THAT MANY
ILLICIT CANNABIS OPERATORS ARE
ABLE TO RECOVER QUICKLY
FOLLOWING ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
DUE TO THE COMPLICIT LANDLORDS.
EXPLOITATION OF WORKERS IN
REMAINING SUPPOSED ESPECIAL T.
EQUIPMENT USED FOR CULTIVATION
AND MANUFACTURING OF CANNABIS.
THE PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL
PROVIDES IMPORTANT TOOLS TO
DISMANTLE THESE ILLEGAL
BUSINESSES BY DISRUPTING THE
FINANCIAL RESOURCES OF
OPERATORS. IN ADDITION SB EIGHT
TWENTY WOULD INVEST ENFORCEMENT
PROCEEDS IN A CANVAS CONTROL
FIND SUPPORT EQUITY PROGRAMS. IS
VITAL TO NOT ONLY SHUT DOWN
ABOUT ACTORS BECAUSE SUPPORT
LICENSED CANNABIS BUSINESSES
THAT ENHANCE RELIABLE ACCESS TO
REGULATED TESTIS TESTED CANNABIS
IN THE MARKETPLACE. OUR FOCUS IS
A TO ADDRESS THE LARGE SCALE
UNLICENSED CANNABIS ACTIVITIES
THEY'RE UNDERCUTTING THE LEGAL
OPERATORS TO CREATE AN
ENVIRONMENT. THAT ALLOWS THOSE
THAT STEPPED INTO THE LEGAL
MARKET TO ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE
TO COMPETE. AND WE ARE COMMITTED
TO WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS TO
PUT IN PLACE GUARDRAILS AND
SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY PRESS ANY
OF THEIR CONCERNS. IN
CONCLUSIONS LOCAL JURISDICTIONS
ARE A CRITICAL PARTNER TO THE
EXERCISE. THE LEGAL MARKET PLACE
IN CALIFORNIA. AND ADEQUATE AND
EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT IS A KEY
PILLAR TO THAT SUCCESS. SB EIGHT
TWENTY PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL
TOOL FOR BOTH THE STATE AND
LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO UTILIZE FOR
THOSE REASONS WE RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR EITHER THANK YOU THANK
YOU MA'AM ARE THERE ANY OTHER
SUPPORTERS IN THE ROOM WAS
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT. OF. US
SENATE BILL EIGHT TWO ZERO.
THINGS ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES
IN A- LEAD WITNESSES FIRST IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE.
SEEING NONE- LET'S MOVE TO
WITNESSES WAITING TESTIFY VIA
THE TELECONFERENCE OR HIS
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
PROMPT THOSE SITTING ON A
TELECONFERENCE LINE. IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION. TO SENATE BILL
EIGHT TAKE. CARE EXCELLENT- AS
HE SAID IF YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO SB EIGHT TWO ZERO
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS
TIME ONE FILED BY THEIR OFF. ONE
MORE REMINDER IF YOU ARE. IN
OPPOSITION OR IN SUPPORT OF SB
EIGHT TWO ZERO PLEASE PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZERO. NOBODY IS
GOING UP THE STRUCTURE THANK YOU
MODERATOR- NOW BRING IT BACK TO
THE DONE THIS IN MY COLLEAGUES
COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
. SEEING NONE- WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE HER. YES THANK YOU- I
BELIEVE THIS BILL HAS BEEN TOOL
REFERRED AND- IF THE COMMITTEE
AB TEAMS THAT- ELIGIBLE WILL
MOVE FORWARD TO PUBLIC SAFETY- I
JUST WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT. OF
REVENUES FROM FORFEITURES WILL
BE APPROPRIATED BY THE
LEGISLATURE. THE BE CARRIED OUT
THE PROVISIONS OF THE CANNOT
CALIFORNIA CANNABIS EQUITY ACT
THIS IS A SOCIAL EQUITY PIECE OF
LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ALLOW
MONEY FROM. ILLEGAL CANNABIS AT
BUSINESSES TO BE FORFEITED TO
BENEFIT OUR SOCIAL EQUITY
PROGRAMS SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK
RIVAL. THANK YOU CENTER LET'S
SYSTEMS CORM. ROT HERE ROTH HERE
. WHEN OF OUR GUILT I NEVER HILL
HERE ARCHULETA HERE ACTUALLY
HERE ASHBY. ASHBY HERE BECKER
DODD EGGMAN GLAZER NAY LOW
MILLER HERE SMALLWOOD CUEVAS
SMALLER CUEVAS HERE FOR HOT BOB
YOU'RE WELCOME PRESENT WILL WE
HAVE A QUORUM DO WE HAVE A
MOTION ON SENATE BILL. EIGHT TWO
ZERO. OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION.
BY SENATOR S. B. THE MOTION IS
TO PASS THE SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ROTH AYE
ROTH AYE WIN. OF OUR GUILT I A
ROADKILL I ARCHULETA AYE
ARCHULETA AYE ASHBY ASHBY I
BAKER DODD EGGMAN GLAZER MELLOW.
YELLOW I SMALLER CUEVAS. BAHAN
WILK. HI WELCOME BYE. BETTER HAS
SIX VOTES WILL HOLD ROLE OPEN
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS LET'S NOW
CALL- THE ROLL ON I REMEMBER ONE
WHICH WAS MOVED BY SENATOR
ARCHULETA. AT MOTION IS TO PASS
THE SENATE FLOOR ROTH HI ROTH
AYE WHEN. I'M GONNA KILL. THIS
IS ITEM NUMBER ONE SENATE BILL
TWO EIGHT FIVE CENTER ALLEN. I
OF OUR GALA I ARCHULETA AYE
ARCHULETA AYE ASHBY ASHBY I.
BAKER DODD EGGMAN GLAZER MILLO
FIVE NEIL I SMALL WOULD QUIT HI
SMALLER CUEVAS IOWA HOG. HOG AYE
WILK HI WILL GUIDE. BETTER HAS
EIGHT VOTES FOR HOLD REAL OPEN
FOR F. MEMBERS. WITH NO CALL-
ITEM NUMBER FOUR SENATE FIVE TO
FOUR CENTER CABALLERO
PHARMACISTS FURNISH PRESCRIPTION
MEDICATIONS. SENATOR PROCEED
WHEN READY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I'M
PLEASED TO PRESENT SB FIVE
TWENTY FOUR WHICH WILL ALLOW
PHARMACISTS TO PROVIDE DIRECT
TREATMENT TO PATIENTS FOLLOWING
A POSITIVE TEST RESULTS FOR A
SELECT NUMBER OF COMMON EASILY
TREATABLE DISEASES. YOU KNOW
HEALTH CARE IS NOT. EQUAL ALL
OVER THE STATE AND IN ROW
CALIFORNIA IT IS INACCESSIBLE
FOR MANY CALIFORNIANS RULE
RESIDENTS ARE CONFRONTED BY MANY
OBSTACLES INCLUDING A SHORTAGE
OF PHYSICIANS AND PRIMARY CARE
PROVIDERS LACK OF TRANSPORTATION
HOSPITAL CLOSURES AND LIMON AT
LIMITED ACCESS TO TREATMENT FOR
VARIOUS VIRAL ILLNESSES. MANY
RURAL CALIFORNIANS FACE
EXPENSIVE EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS-
LONG WAIT TIMES IN ORDER TO BE
TREATED FOR DISEASES LIKE COVERT
NINETEEN OR STREP THROAT. A
LIMITED NUMBER OF HEALTH CARE
FACILITY SERVING RURAL AREAS ARE
OFTEN BURDENED WITH MORE
PATIENTS AND THEY HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO SERVE. THIS IS
PARTICULARLY THE CASE DURING A
RECITAL RECENT TRIPLE DEMOCRAT
COVERT INFLUENCE INFLUENTIAL AND
R. S. B. MEANWHILE MILLIONS OF
CALIFORNIANS BENEFIT FROM
TESTING VACCINES AND TREATMENT
FROM PHARMACISTS. NEARLY NINE IN
TEN CALIFORNIANS LIVE WITHIN
FIVE MILES OF A COMMUNITY
PHARMACY AND THE ROLE OF
PHARMACISTS IN ORCHESTRATING
PATIENT CARE IS UNDER USED FOR
MANY PATIENTS COMMUNITY
PHARMACIES CAN PROVIDE QUICK
PRIMARY ACCESS POINT THE HEALTH
CARE. YEARS AGO I AUTHORED A
BILL THAT ALLOWS PHARMACISTS TO
PERFORM SEVERAL FDA APPROVED OR
AUTHORIZED TEST ALLOWING
PHARMACISTS TO SCREEN FOR KOBE
NINETEEN AND SEVERAL COMMON
ILLNESSES IN YOU ALL KNOW WITH
THOSE FASTER LIKE WE TAKE THEM
OURSELVES IN ORDER TO SHOW UP ON
SUNDAY- AND IN ORDER TO SHOW UP
ON MONDAY. AND THURSDAY- AND
WHAT THAT FELT THAT DID WAS
ALLOW PHARMACISTS TO BE ABLE TO
CONDUCT THOSE TESTS. HOWEVER
PHARMACIST CANNOT CURRENTLY
PRESCRIBED TREATMENT FOR MOST OF
THE COMMON HEALTH CARE
CONDITIONS FOR WHICH THEY
CURRENTLY PERFORM PERFORM THE
TESTING. LIMITING ACCESS TO
TREATMENT FOR CALIFORNIANS. FOR
EXAMPLE A PERSON WHO GOES TO A
PHARMACY AND TEST POSITIVE FOR
THE FLU WOULD NOT BE. ABLE TO
THEN BE FURNISHED A TREATMENT BY
A PHARMACIST THEY WOULD HAVE TO
GO TO A DOCTOR OR A HEALTH CARE
FACILITY. RECOGNIZING THE
ESSENTIAL ROLE OF PHARMACIES IN
COMBATING THE COVERT NINETEEN
PANDEMIC THE DEPARTMENT OF
CONSUMER AFFAIRS K. PHARMACISTS
THE AUTHORITY TO PRESCRIBE A
COVERT NINETEEN TREAT TREATMENT
PACKS LOADED DIRECTLY TO
PATIENTS. THIS WAIVER IS SET TO
EXPIRE SOON MEANING THAT
PHARMACISTS WILL NO LONGER BE
ABLE TO ADMINISTER. THE THAT
PARTICULAR TREATMENT. BUILDING
ON THE GROUNDWORK LAID BY
PHARMACISTS TESTING AUTHORITY
AND THE DC WAIVER FOR PAX LOVE
IT SB FIVE TWENTY FOUR WOULD
ALLOW PHARMACISTS TO PRESCRIBE
TREATMENT. FOR FIVE COMMON
CONDITIONS THESE DISEASES ARE
COVERED NINETEEN. INFLUENZA
INFLUENZA SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED
INFECTIONS STREP THROAT AND
CONJUNCTIVITIS. THESE CONDITIONS
AND THAT'S PINKEYE ME IF YOU'VE
EVER HAD PINK EYE- WHEN YOU GET
IT AGAIN YOU WILL KNOW IT'S
PINKEYE AND IT TAKES IT IT TAKES
A TREATMENT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE
TO STOP IT OTHERWISE IT GOES
CRAZY. THESE CONDITIONS WERE
SOAKED SELECTED BECAUSE THEY
WERE COMMON DISEASES THAT PLAGUE
COMMUNITIES AND HEALTH CARE
FACILITIES AND ARE EASILY
TREATED TREATABLE WITH COMMONLY
PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS.
PHARMACISTS ARE REVEALED
RIGOROUSLY TRAINED TO PROVIDE
TREATMENTS TO PATIENTS
FURTHERMORE THE BILL REQUIRES
THE STATE BOARD OF PHARMACY. AND
THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL BOARD TO
CREATE PROCEDURES AND PROTOCOLS
RELATING TO THE FURNISHING OF
TREATMENTS THESE PROCEDURES AND
PROTOCOLS WOULD INCLUDE TRAINING
REQUIREMENTS FOR PHARMACISTS
ADMINISTERING TEST AND TREAT. I
WALKED IN AND WILL GENERATE THE
INVOLVEMENT OF A RITE OF HEALTH
CARE PROFESSIONALS WHO CAN YOU
ENSURE THAT TREATMENT FOR COMMON
DISEASES IS SAFE AND ACHIEVABLE.
FOR MANY PATIENTS COMMUNITY
PHARMACIES ARE THEIR PRIMARY
ACCESS POINTS FOR HELP
HEALTHCARE HITTING TESTED IN
TREAT TREATED DIRECTLY. MAY
OFTEN BE THE FASTEST WAY FOR AN
INDIVIDUAL TO GET TREATMENT. AND
STOP THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE.
THE PHARMACIST CAN PER CASH FOR
MANY DISEASES SO THE ABILITY TO
FURNISH SIMPLE TREATMENTS IS A
NATURAL NEXT STEP BY GIVING
PHARMACIST THE AUTHORITY TO
PRESCRIBE TREATMENTS. AFTER
THEY'VE TESTED POSITIVE FOR
THESE FIVE COMMON DISEASES THE
BILL REDUCES BURDENS FOR HEALTH
CARE FACILITIES AND EXPENSE
HEALTH CARE ACCESSIBILITY FOR
ALL CALIFORNIANS WITH ME TODAY
TO TESTIFY IS ROB GAVE AS GOOD
AS THE PHARMACIST WITH
ALBERTSONS AND SAFEWAY AND CLINT
HOPKINS WITH. GUCCI'S PHARMACY
OR LINDSAY BILL HORN WITH
CAPITAL ADVOCACY. OKAY LEAD
WITNESSES PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
LINDSAY GOAL HORN HERE TODAY ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY PHARMACY COALITION AND
WE ARE PROUD TO SUPPORT SB FIVE
TO FOUR. AND WE SEE THIS AS A
PRACTICAL MEASURE THAT WILL
AUTHORIZE PHARMACISTS FOR SOME
OF THE MOST READILY ACCESSIBLE
HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS FOR
CALIFORNIANS. TO ACT QUICKLY
SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY
ADMINISTER TREATMENTS TO
CALIFORNIANS WHO MAY OTHERWISE
HAVE TO WAIT TO GET IN TO SEE
THEIR PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER-
THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF PRIMARY
CARE PROVIDERS IN CALIFORNIA.
MILLIONS OF CALIFORNIANS LIVE IN
AREAS OF THE STATE WITH HEALTH
CARE PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGES AND
A LACK OF AVAILABLE PRIMARY CARE
PROVIDERS. AND I THINK WE ALL
KNOW THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE IN
RURAL PARTS OF THE STATE. ON THE
OTHER HAND THE VAST MAJORITY OF
CALIFORNIANS LIVE WITHIN JUST A
FEW MILES OF A COMMUNITY
PHARMACY. THIS IS WHERE THEY GET
THEIR MEDICATIONS CONSULTATION
STATIONS VACCINATIONS TESTING IN
A NUMBER OF OTHER SERVICES-
UNFORTUNATELY WHEN A PATIENT HAS
SYMPTOMS FOR CONDITIONS LIKE THE
FLU OR STREP. THEY HAVE TO WAIT
TO SEE THEIR PRIMARY CARE
PROVIDER TO RECEIVE TREATMENT
EVEN THOUGH THE PHARMACIST CAN
TEST FOR THESE CONDITIONS. AND
FOR MANY PEOPLE GETTING AN
APPOINTMENT CAN TAKE THESE ARE
LONGER- IF THEIR SYMPTOMS
DEVELOP IN THE EVENING OR OVER
THE WEEKEND AS WE KNOW THEY
OFTEN DO. M. PATIENTS FACE
WAITING EVEN LONGER TO RECEIVE
TREATMENT OR VISITING URGENT
CARE AND POTENTIALLY WAITING FOR
HOURS TO GET THE CARE THEY NEED.
AB SB FIVE TO FOUR IS EIGHTY I
THINK SIMPLE COMMONSENSE WISHING
THIS THIS PROBLEM. IT'LL GIVE
PATIENTS THE OPTION TO VISIT
THEIR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD
PHARMACY THIRTY BOTH TESTING AND
TREATMENT. IN A MATTER OF
MINUTES. FOR JUST FIVE
CONDITIONS COBIT FLU STREP I
THINK I. AND SEXUALLY
TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS THAT WE
REALLY SEE THIS BILL AS A-
MODEST EXPANSION THE PHARMACIST
SERVICES. THAT WILL HAVE A
DRAMATIC POSITIVE IMPACT ON
ACCESS TO CARE AND PATIENT
HEALTH OUTCOMES. AS THE SENATOR
MENTIONED AT TWENTY TWENTY ONE
LEGISLATION WAS ACTED ENACTED IN
CALIFORNIA THAT THE PHARMACIST
THE AUTHORITY TO PERFORM CLEAR
WAY OF TESTING. M. AND LAST YEAR
PHARMACISTS WERE GIVEN THE
AUTHORITY. EMERGENCY TEMPORARY
AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE TAX
LIMITATIONS UPON A POSITIVE TEST
RESULT FOR CONVEYED SO THIS BILL
SIMPLY CODIFIES THAT AUTHORITY.
NEARLY EXPANDS IT TO A
PHARMACIST DIFFERENT
STRAIGHTFORWARD. FOR OTHER. INTO
AND FOR REASON WE PRACTICED THE
BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU ANY
OTHER LEAD WITH. AND. HI MY NAME
IS ROB GET US AND I'M WITH THE
ALBERTSONS COMPANIES ON THE
DIRECTOR OF PHARMACY LEGISLATIVE
AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS- I'M ALSO
A PHARMACIST. AND I'M HERE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB FIVE TWENTY
FOUR- THIS WILL EXPAND
HEALTHCARE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE
FOR CALIFORNIANS BY ALLOWING
PHARMACISTS TO DIRECTLY PROVIDE
TREATMENT FOR THE FIVE COMMON
CONDITIONS THAT BOTH THE SENATOR
AND LENDS YOU HAVE OUTLINED-
NEARLY HALF THE COUNTRY ACROSS.
OUR HAVE TO STATES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY HAVE IN SOME CAPACITY
ALLOWED PHARMACISTS TO FURNISH
MEDICATIONS RELATED TO A TEST-
IN THE STATE'S THERE SAFELY
PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE
PATIENTS. AS FAR AS OUR TEAM
GOES WE DO OFFER THESE SERVICES
TO PATIENTS IN STATES WHERE IT
IS ALLOWED. IT HAS BEEN A GREAT-
SERVICE FOR THOSE PATIENTS AND
RURAL HEALTH CARE AREAS AS WELL
AS- INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY NOT HAVE
ESTABLISHED KERR WITH THEIR
PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER- AND ARE
IN NEED OF THAT ACCESS POINT TO
HEALTH CARE- POINT OF CARE
TESTING. AND TREATMENT IS FAST
EFFICIENT AND SAFE WAY TO
DIAGNOSE AND CARE FOR PATIENTS
AND PHARMACISTS IN CALIFORNIA
ALREADY HAVE EXPERIENCE. AND
AUTHORIZATION TO DO THIS UNDER
THEIR CURRENT SCOPE OF PRACTICE
FOR EXAMPLE PHARMACISTS CAN
ADMINISTER TREATMENT FOR HIV VIA
POST EXPOSURE OR PRE EXPOSURE
PROPHYLAXIS- IN ADDITION. DURING
THE STATE OF EMERGENCY RELATED
TO COVER NINETEEN PHARMACISTS
WERE ABLE TO INDEPENDENTLY
ADMINISTER PACKS LOVE IT. TO
PATIENTS WHO TESTED POSITIVE FOR
CO THAT- SB FIVE TWENTY FOUR IS
A NATURAL IS THE NATURAL NEXT
STEP TO INCREASING ACCESS TO
PHARMACY SERVICES FOR
CALIFORNIANS- PHARMACISTS
PROVIDE TESTING AND
CONSULTATIONS AS WELL AS-
TRAINING AND EDUCATION TO
PATIENTS ABOUT DRUG THERAPY
DISEASE MANAGEMENT- AND-
PREVENTION. PHARMACIST AND ALSO
ADMINISTER IMAGE. FURNACE
ADMINISTERED BIRTH CONTROL
NICOTINE REPLACEMENT PRODUCTS
AND STANDARD TRAVEL MEDICATIONS.
PHARMACIES ARE ONE OF THE MOST
EASILY ACCESSIBLE HEALTH CARE
ACCESS POINTS FOR PATIENTS
TYPICALLY MOST ACCESSIBLE FOR
PATIENTS THAT MORE ACCESSIBLE
FOR PATIENTS AND THEIR PRIMARY
CARE PROVIDERS- THIS BILL DOES
HELP. YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN THE
RURAL AREAS IN ANY AREAS THAT
ARE IN NEED OF ACCESS TO HEALTH
CARE- IN THESE- THESE ARE. THREE
MINUTES THAT CAN BE FURNACE VIA
A QUICK AND EASY TASKS THAT
PHARMACISTS CAN BE TRAINED AND
EFFECTIVELY CAN CAN PROVIDE THAT
TREATMENT TO THOSE PATIENTS-
ALBERTSONS COMPANIES DOES STAND
IN FAVOR OF THIS BILL AND WOULD
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE- FROM THE
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU SIR ANY OTHER
WITNESSES. IN HER ROOM IN
SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURES HE'S
ME. ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. LET'S TURN TO LEAD
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION ARE
THERE ANY LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. TRY TO KEEP THE
TOTAL IF THEY'RE MORE THAN IS
MORE THAN ONE TRY TO KEEP THE
TOTAL PRESENTATION TO FOUR
MINUTES OKAY. THAT'S GOOD GOOD
MORNING TRYING COMMITTEE MEMBERS
MY NAME IS DRASTIC RIGHT WHILE
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR WITH THE
UNITED FOOD AND COMMERCIAL
WORKERS WESTERN STATES COUNCIL.
TESTIFYING TODAY WITH AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION ON
SENATE BILL FIVE TO FOUR. UCW
REPRESENTS THOUSANDS OF
PHARMACISTS AND PHARMACY
TECHNICIANS AND THE GROCERY AND
DRUG RETAIL SETTINGS- OTHERWISE
CALL CHAIN COMMUNITY PHARMACIES.
SB FIVE TO FOUR WOULD
SIGNIFICANTLY EXPAND A
PHARMACIST COOPER PRACTICE TO
ALLOW FOR A TEST TO TREAT MODEL
WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL
PROTECTIONS FOR PHARMACISTS.
WORKING IN THAT SETTING. OUR
CONCERNS LIE SQUARELY IN THE
FACT THAT PHARMACISTS CURRENTLY
DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE STAFFING TO
COMPLETE THEIR CURRENT WORKLOAD
AND DO NOT HAVE A TANAMI OVER
WORK FLOW DECISIONS. PHARMACIST
IN THE RETAIL SAM CITING HAVE
BEEN SOUNDING THE ALARM BELLS
FOR YEARS ABOUT THEIR CURRENT
WORKING CONDITIONS. THESE CRIES
FOR HELP HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED BY
A RECENT WORKFORCE SURVEY
CONDUCTED BY THE CALIFORNIA
STATE BOARD OF PHARMACY. THE
SURVEY RESULTS WERE ALARMING.
91% OF CHAIN PHARMACIST SAID
THAT STOPPING IN THEIR PRIMARY
WORK SITE IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO
ENSURE ADEQUATE PATIENT CARE.
35% A PHARMACIST IN THE CHAIN
CITING INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE
ON AVERAGE. THREE TO FIVE
MEDICATION ERRORS AND A MONTH.
AND ANOTHER 45% THEY SAID THEY
HAVE WANTED TO MEDICATION ERRORS
ANY MONTH. THAT IS 80% OF CHAIN
PHARMACIES SHARING THAT AT LEAST
ONE MEDICATION ERRORS HAPPENING
IN A MONTH. MEDICATION ERRORS
WHICH CAN CAUSE SEVERE PATIENT
HARM AND POTENTIALLY DEATH. THE
LAST THING ANY CALIFORNIA
PATIENT EXPECTS TO HAPPEN WHEN
THEY LEAVE THE PHARMACY WITH A
PRESCRIPTION. FURTHER MORE 83% A
PHARMACIST SAID THAT THEY DO NOT
HAVE TIME TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE
PATIENT CONSULTATIONS. PATIENT
CONSULTATIONS WHICH ARE THE
BASICS OF PHARMACY BUT ARE THE
ALSO THE LAST CHECK TO MAKE SURE
PATIENTS ARE GETTING THE RIGHT
MEDICATION. AS IT RELATES TO THE
EMPLOYERS ARE OF US AS
PHARMACISTS PROVIDE. 78% OF
CHAIN PHARMACIST SAID.
MINISTRATION OF AN IMMUNIZATION.
THE REALITY IS PHARMACIST WHO
ARE OVERWORKED AND UNDERSTAFFED
ARE NOT ABLE TO OFFER THE BEST
PATIENT CARE TO CALIFORNIANS. IT
IS FOR THESE REASONS UFCW IS
REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO SB
FIVE TO FOUR. THAT WOULD REQUIRE
AN ADDITIONAL PHARMACIST IN THE
PHARMACY TO PROVIDE ONLY THE
CLINICAL SERVICES AUTHORIZED BY
THIS BILL. THIS ENSURES THAT
PHARMACISTS ARE OVERWORKED AND
UNDERSTAFFED ON THEIR CURRENT
WORKLOAD DUTIES. DO NOT NEED TO
BREAK WORK FLOW TO ASSIST
PATIENTS AND OFFER TREATMENT ON
THE ILLNESSES AND CONDITIONS.
WHICH ARE TIME EXTENSIVE UNDER
THIS PROPOSAL. THIS AMENDMENT
WILL ENSURE THAT PHARMACIES CAN
PROVIDE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF
PATIENT CARE AND SERVICES.
DELIVERED BY PHARMACIST WHOSE
SOLE FOCUS WILL BE TESTING AND
TREATING ILLNESSES AND
CONDITIONS UNDER THE SPELL. WE
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S
WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE IN
DISCUSSIONS WITH U. S. C. W. AND
LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING
FEEDBACK ON OUR PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS AND UPDATED OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION. THANK
YOU THANK YOU MA'AM ARE THERE
ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. NAME
AFFILIATION. GOOD MORNING. CHAIR
AND MEMBERS- MY NAME IS GEORGE
STORIES OF THE- MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION- WE DO APPRECIATE
THE COMMITTEE STAFF ANALYSIS ON
THIS BILL THE AUTHOR'S
WILLINGNESS TO MEET AND DISCUSS
OUR SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ON THIS
MEASURE- C. MAYES CONCERNS ARE
PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON TREATMENTS
THAT. PHARMACISTS WOULD BE
ALLOWED TO PRESCRIBE INDIVIDUALS
AT RETAIL PHARMACIES UNDER THIS
BILL. THE TREATMENTS ARE TOO
EXPENSIVE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL
APPROACH TO TREATING ILLNESSES
CAN BE DANGEROUS FOR COMMUNITIES
. I WHERE WHERE THIS BILL HAS
BEEN AMENDED RECENTLY TO INCLUDE
TEST TO TREAT FOR COVERT-
INFLUENZA STREP THROAT SEXUALLY
TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS AND PAIN
GUIDE HOWEVER TREATMENT PLANS
FOR THOSE ILLNESSES. ARE NOT
ALWAYS THE SAME IN THIS BILL
DOES NOT. CONSIDER INDIVIDUALS
WHO HAVE PRE EXISTING
CONDITIONS. AND INDIVIDUALS
PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN SHOULD
NOT BE REMOVED FROM THE
TREATMENT PROCESS. ADDITIONALLY
IS UNCLEAR HOW. COMPLICATED
MEDICAL CASES WOULD BE REFERRED.
TO AN APPROPRIATE MEDICAL
PROVIDER- THIS BILL WOULD ALSO
ALLOW FOR PHARMACISTS TO
PRESCRIBE ANTIBIOTICS. WHICH
COULD HAVE FAR REACHING
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES TO THE
HEALTHCARE DELIVERY SYSTEM- WE
UNDERSTAND APPRECIATE THE
AUTHOR'S INTENT. AROUND ACCESS
TO HEALTH CARE BUT THIS MEASURE
WOULD NOT ACHIEVE ACCESS AND
FURTHERMORE. WE DON'T BELIEVE
THIS APPROACH ISSUES HEALTH
EQUITY OUR MOST UNDERSERVED
AREAS. ARE UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES ARE TO HAVE ACCESS
TO A PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN AND
SHOULD NOT HAVE TO RELY ON
GETTING THEIR HEALTHCARE. AT
WALGREENS OR CVS. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO BE PART
OF THE SOLUTION ACCESS TO CARE
FOR THIS MEASURE IS NOT THE
RIGHT APPROACH. SENATORS
RESPECTFULLY. ASK THAT YOU VOTE
NO ON SB FIVE TWENTY FOUR TODAY.
AT APPROPRIATE TIME HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU ANY OTHER.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION NAME
AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON THE
BILL. THANK SURE MEMBERS TO MEN
REPRESENT THE CALIFORNIA CHAPTER
OF THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF
CARDIOLOGY IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU SIR ANY OTHER OPPOSITION
WITNESS. RIGHT SPENCER ON BEHALF
OF THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF OBGYN
STRYCHNINE IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU ANY OTHER OPPOSITION
WITNESSES. LET'S NOW MOVE TO THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS MODERATOR
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE THE PROMPT
ANY INDIVIDUALS WAITING ON THE
TELECONFERENCE REFUSED TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO THIS MEASURE SENATE BILL FIVE
TWENTY FOUR. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO SB FIVE TO FOUR
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO ONE FILED BY ZERO. AND WE
WILL BEGIN WITH LINE TWELVE YOU
ARE OPEN. SURE ON BEHALF OF LOMA
LINDA UNIVERSITY HEALTH IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE.
ONE MORE REMINDER THERE. MISTER
CHAIR ONE FILED BY ZERO IF YOUR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO. S. B.
FIVE TWO FOUR FIVE TWO FOUR. AND
NOBODY IS QUEUING UP AT THIS
TIME THANK YOU MODERATOR LET'S
BRING THE MATTER BACK TO THE
DICE AND MY COLLEAGUES
COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
. SERWA FOUR BY SENATOR OF RADHA
GIL. THANK YOU- CHAIR- I DO
WANNA SAY CENTER TO COVER YOUR-
YOU HAVE ALWAYS INTRODUCED A BIG
FOCUS ON RURAL COMMUNITIES AND
THOSE THAT ARE UNDERSERVED- I
WILL SAY THAT YOU KNOW STAFF AND
I HAD HAD DISCUSSED THIS BILL
AND IN THE BIG CONCERN IS
AWFULLY PROVIDING- MORE MEDICAL
PROVIDER SLASH DOCTORS IN THESE
AREAS. BUT THE HONEST TRUTH IS
THAT- IF IT HASN'T HAPPENED IN
SEVERAL YEARS ALREADY KNOWING
THAT THERE IS UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES- THIS BILL IS MAYBE
NOT EXACTLY WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS
BUT IT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION. TO PROVIDE THE NEEDS
OF THESE INDIVIDUALS- AND IT'S
LIMITED IN SCOPE- AND THESE ARE
COMMON THINGS THAT HAPPENED WITH
A LOT OF PEOPLE SO I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS AND I DO
APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON
THIS THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SENATOR SENATOR OVER AUTUMN KILL
. IT SAID THANK YOU FOR. YOUR
PRESENTATION TODAY AB I M. MY
CONFLICT WITH THIS BILL IS
AROUND THE SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED
INFECTIONS AND I WAS WONDERING
IF YOU CAN SAY A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT HOW THOSE TESTS WOULD BE
CONDUCTED. AND HOW- THE PEOPLE
WOULD BE A COUNSELED AROUND
PREVENTION OR MENTAL HEALTH IN
THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR THAT FOR THAT
QUESTION- THE- THE WAY THAT THE
TESTING THAT'S BEEN APPROVED- IN
OTHER WORDS IT TESTING ART CAN
HAPPEN RIGHT NOW- ON THE ON IF
IT'S A CLIA. APPROVED A TEST
WHICH MEANS IT'S A TEST THAT YOU
- IT SHOWS UP AS A POSITIVE OR A
NEGATIVE FOR THAT SPECIFIC
DISEASE AND SO THE SEXUALLY
TRANSMITTED DISEASES- SHOW UP AS
A POSITIVE OR A NEGATIVE AND-
ONCE YOU GET THAT DIAGNOSIS THEN
IT'S A QUESTION. OF WHAT KIND OF
TREATMENT MODALITY YOU USE IN
ORDER TO GET RID OF THE DISEASE-
AND SO- THAT THE PHARMACIST
WOULD HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY
AS THE DOCTOR STOOD TO DETERMINE
THE- THAT THAT MEDICATION THAT
WOULD BE APPROVED AND- THE
MEDICATION IS- IS A- DURING THE
BANK CARE. IT'S AN ANTIBIOTIC.
THAT WILL START TO REDUCE THE
DISEASE AND SO- MY EXPECTATION
IS THAT THAT THE PHARMACIST
WOULD. TAKE THE PATIENT THROUGH
A SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND ADVISE
THEM AS TO WHAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR
IS RISKY FOR THAT PARTICULAR
DISEASE AND WHAT ARE THE
CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THEY
SHOULD HAVE- SEX UP WHILE
THEY'RE UNDERGOING THEIR THEIR
TREATMENT- SO- IT'S ONE OF THE
REASONS THAT WE SEE WE PUT IN
THE BILL. THAT THERE WOULD BE A
PROTOCOL. THAT WOULD BE
ESTABLISHED SO THAT EVERYBODY'S
DOING THE PROCESS THE SAME WAY
AND IT REQUIRES THE BILL
REQUIRES THAT THE PHARMACISTS
UNDERGO- I TRAINING SPECIFIC TO
THOSE PARTICULAR DISEASES SO
THAT THEY KNOW HOW THAT PROTOCOL
WORKS AND WHAT IT IS THAT- IT'S
ADVISABLE TO RECOMMEND TO A
PATIENT. I'M SO IT'S NOT IT'S
NOT YOU GET TO DO ANYTHING IT
THERE WOULD BE VERY VERY-
STRUCTURED AND- EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITY AS WELL AS- AS WELL
AS- PROTOCOLS FOR HOW TO BE ABLE
TO TREAT THEIR SPECIFIC SEXUALLY
TRANSMITTED DISEASE BECAUSE
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF THEM. YES
I WOULD CERTAINLY AGREE AND
THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION SO
I THINK FOR ME I WOULD I'M STILL
STUCK ON THIS SUBJECT HAS BEEN
INFECTIONS BECAUSE THERE IS
QUITE A VARIETY OF THEM- ABSENT
OF A FULL PELVIC EXAM OR HEALTH
SCREENING OR EVEN COUNSELING- I
MEAN A SPOKESMAN WOMEN HERE FOR
A MOMENT- I WOULD BE CONCERNED.
ABOUT SPECIFIC SEXUALLY
TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS THAT ARE
LIFE LONG OR CAN THEN LEAD TO
OTHER THINGS- SUCH AS CERVICAL
CANCER- THE OTHER THING THAT
CONCERNS ME HERE IS WITH
SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED. INFECTIONS
THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THAT
PERSON- HAD SEX HAD INTERCOURSE
AND WITH INTERCOURSE CAN COME
PREGNANCY. AND IF THERE'S NOT A
FOLLOW UP IN TERMS OF. WHETHER
OR NOT THE WOMAN IS PREGNANT
THERE MAY BE DANGER. THE ON
FETUS THROUGH- PRESCRIBE
MEDICATIONS SO AB. ALL IN ALL
THIS BILL FOR ME IS A STEP IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION BUT I CAN'T
GET OVER THE SEXUALLY
TRANSMITTED DISEASE- ACTUALLY
TRANSMIT INFECTION PORTION. AND
I WOULD- ENCOURAGED THAT ASPECT
TO STAY WITHIN THE OBGYN WORLDS
NOT ONLY TO PROTECT WOMEN BUT TO
PROTECT THE UNBORN CHILD CHILD.
I DO APPRECIATE THAT- AND THE
ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN
INITIAL DIAGNOSIS- ANY TIME
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A DOCTOR AND
YOU'VE SCHEDULED AN APPOINTMENT-
WHICH IS BECOME MORE AND MORE
DIFFICULT I HAVE TO SAY TO DO-
THEY'RE GONNA END UP DOING THE
EXAM. THAT YOU SCHEDULE THAT WAS
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED IF YOU'VE
GOT TO FOLLOW IF THERE IS FOLLOW
UP THEY WILL THEN SET UP A
FOLLOW UP EXAM I'M AND IT MAY BE
WITH AN OBGYN IT MAY BE WITH
THAT SPECIALIST- AND SO THIS IS
NOT INTENDED TO TAKE AWAY ALL OF
THAT. FROM A- I MET AND ANOTHER
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL IT'S TO
JUST DEAL WITH THE ISSUE THAT IS
PRESENTED TO THE PHARMACIST-
AND- AND SO. SUFFICE IT TO SAY
THAT THAT THAT EXAM THAT TESTING
FOR THAT PARTICULAR DISEASE-
WOULD HAPPEN AT THE MET ADDED
AND A MEDICAL DOCTOR'S OFFICE
BUT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE
FOLLOW UP IN ANY CASE SO. BEEN
IN HIM IN MY MIND IT'S THE SAME
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A FULL
PELVIC EXAM UNLESS YOU GO IN AND
THAT WAS WHAT YEAR THE ORIGINAL.
APPOINTMENT WAS FOR. THE I
UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND I
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH HIM
THANK YOU CENTERS ARE WILK.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR. THE LAST
TIME I CHECKED SIXTEEN OUT OF
FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES HAD
INSUFFICIENT RATIO OF DOCTORS TO
PATIENTS. SO I'M ALWAYS LOOKING
FOR WAYS TO SAFELY EXPAND ACCESS
TO HEALTH CARE. FOR MY
CONSTITUENTS. AND WHEN WE HEAR
OPPOSITION. I ALWAYS ASK MYSELF
IS IT BECAUSE THEY'RE CONCERNED
FOR PATIENTS OR IS IT BECAUSE
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT MARKET
SHARE. WE SHARE PERSONAL STORY
TOOK MY WIFE TO ITALY FOR OUR
TWENTY FIFTH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY
THOUGHT HALFWAY THROUGH SHE
CONTRACTED PINKEYE. WE ARE
FREAKING OUT BECAUSE WE HAD NO
IDEA WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WE WENT
TO A PHARMACY BOOM. EMILY
SUBSCRIBE IT ADDRESSED IT GOT
RID OF IT SO THIS TO ME IS A
VERY LIMITED COMMONSENSE
APPROACH TO INCREASE ACCESS- SO
I WILL BE SUPPORTING YOUR BILL
TODAY AND HAPPY. Q. MAKE THE
MOTION WHEN APPROPRIATE THANK
YOU SIR THANK YOU SENATOR CENTER
ASHLEY. YEAH I JUST WANTED TO
JOIN MY COLLEAGUE FROM HAYWARD
IN FIRST NOTING THAT THAT YEAR A
HUGE CHAMPION OF ACCESS TO
HEALTH CARE IN RURAL AREAS
ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA I
CAN'T. IMAGINE THIS STATE
WITHOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THAT
AREA AND I CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE
DOING HERE FITS RIGHT IN WITH
THE REST OF THE PACKAGE OF THE
BODY OF YOUR WORK THIS YEAR
WHICH IS. TRYING TO MAKE SURE
THAT PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS. I
ORIGINALLY HAD SOME CONCERNS I
KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH
THE OPPONENTS ALREADY RIGHT
SENATOR EVEN ALREADY MADE
SEVERAL. CHANGES TO LIMIT
SOMETHING'S YES THAT'S THE
REASON IT'S LIMITED TO THESE
FIVE BECAUSE THERE WAS A VERY
ROBUST DISCUSSION AND THEY MADE
IT MADE SENSE TO ME. RIGHT I
APPRECIATE THAT YOU DID THAT I
STILL HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT
IT. I'M IN MY OWN MIND I JUST
WANT TO SEE HOW IT PROGRESSES AS
YOU GO THROUGH HERE THESE. THESE
VARIOUS COMMITTEES I KNOW YOU'RE
WORKING REALLY HARD ON IT WHAT I
THINK IS SPECIAL AND IMPORTANT A
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ABOUT YOU
IS YOU'RE WORKING ON IT. ACROSS
SEVERAL BILLS THAT ARE TRYING TO
DO OTHER THINGS TOO AND ALL OF
THEM WORK TOWARDS ONE GOAL WHICH
IS MAKING SURE THAT RURAL PEOPLE
IN CALIFORNIA HAVE ACCESS TO
CARE. AND SO I'M DEFINITELY
GONNA VOTE YESTERDAY GIVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP WORKING ON
IT IN. AND KEEP. MOVING IN
CONCERT WITH THE OTHER EFFORT
THAT YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER
THAT IS A MUCH LARGER PACKAGE. I
ALSO JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS
APPRECIATION FOR THE CHANGES
THAT YOU MADE THAT MAKES IT
EASIER TO SUPPORT. AND I ASSUME
THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL CHANGES
AS YOU GO ALONG THANK YOU.
THANKS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
CENTERS. SEARCH LOADING. YES YOU
MISTER. OF I CAN APPRECIATE YOUR
CONCERN- ABOUT THE UNDERSERVED.
BECAUSE YOU AND I BOTH WORKED
ON. ON THOSE ISSUES ESPECIALLY
THE COMMUNITY HOSPITAL. SO I'M
IN TOTAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE
TO ADDRESS- ARE WE- ASKING THESE
PHARMACISTS FOR ADDITIONAL
TRAINING. ARE THEY DOING IT
VOLUNTARILY. BECAUSE IS IT
ADDITIONAL TRAINING NEEDED. OR
ARE THEY- UNDER THEIR LICENSE
ABLE TO DO IT. AND IT'S DONE OR-
TELL ME ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL
TRADE THAT'S THAT'S THE WHOLE
ISSUE IS THAT. THE THE
ALLEGATION FROM THE MEDICAL
PROFESSION IS THEY DON'T HAVE
THE TRAINING. AND SO TO MAKE
SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS
CONSISTENT AND- AND RECENT
TRAINING THE BILL REQUIRES THAT
THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH
IT. DO IT A TRAINING PROGRAM TO
UNDERSTAND- WHAT THE PROTOCOLS
ARE AND- IT SO THAT IT WOULD BE
UNDER THE UNDER THEIR LICENSE
THEY- ARE ALLOWED TO DO THIS.
BUT THEN THEY THEY HAVE TO DO
THE TRAINING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE
TO- ACTUALLY DO THE WORK- SO-
THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE
TRAINING IN THE BILL IS TO GIVE
THEM THEY HAVE THEY GO THROUGH
EXTENSIVE. EDUCATIONAL
BACKGROUND TO BE TO BE A
PHARMACIST AND MUCH OF THE
TRAINING MUCH OF THE EDUCATION
IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS A MEDICAL
DOCTOR WOULD GET WHAT'S
DIFFERENT IS A MEDICAL DOCTOR'S
COAT GO INTO A PRACTICAL SITTING
AND GET TRAINED. IN IN A
HOSPITAL AND THAT'S THE
RESIDENCY PROGRAM- BUT THEY HAVE
THE SAME BACKGROUND THE SAME-
CLASSES IF YOU WELL THAT THAT A
MEDICAL DOCTOR HAS WHEN THEY
GRADUATE- FROM THAT FROM THE
SCHOOL SO. THE ADDITIONAL
TRAINING IS SPECIFIC TO THESE.
THESE DISEASES AND WOULD GIVE
THEM THAT BACKGROUND THEY NEED
AND OBVIOUSLY THE PHARMACIST
READY UNDERSTAND THESE DRUGS BUT
BACKGROUND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE
TO PUT. IT TOGETHER TO BE ABLE
TO ACTUALLY TREAT. AND I'LL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL THANK YOU.
THANK YOU US- SEEING NO OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS- CENTER
WHICH LIKE TO CLOSE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH I THINK THIS IS BEEN A
REALLY ROBUST DISCUSSION I
APPRECIATE IT VERY VERY MUCH.
JUST KNOW THAT- I'M- I AM
WORKING VERY HARD WITH THE
OPPOSITION SOME OF IT IS BEEN
BEEN. VERY NEW AS IN FRIDAY-
AND- AND SO I TAKE VERY
SERIOUSLY THEIR CONCERNS AND-
THE BILL THIS IS THE FIRST
COMMITTEE EXPECT IT'S GOING TO
CHANGE OVER OVER TIME TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION THE ISSUES THAT
THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THE
OPPOSITION. RESPECTFULLY ASK.
THANK YOU CENTER WE HAVE A
MOTION MOTION BY SENATOR WILK
MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
HEALTH PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ROTH
HI ROTH I WENT. OVER TO GAIL. A
RADICAL NOW. ARCHULETA HI
ARCHULETA AYE ASHBY HI ASHBY AYE
BAKER. BAKER AYE DODD AYE DODD
AYE EGGMAN. LASER MILLO HI MILLO
EYES SMALLWOOD CUEVAS NO. OUR
GREATEST NOW WILL HOP ON HOP AYE
WILK I WILL GUIDE. THE VOTE IS
EIGHT TO TWO WILL HOLD THE ROLE
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. NEXT UP
ITEM NUMBER FOUR FIVE SENATE
BILL SEVEN EIGHT FIVE CENTER
CAREER OF CONSUMER PROTECTION
TICKET SELLERS. H. MISTER KAREN
MEMBERS. SB SEVEN EIGHTY FIVE
WOULD PROTECT CONSUMERS. EMPOWER
ATHLETIC TEAMS AND ARTISTS. AND
ADDRESSED REAL ISSUES AFFECTING
THE LIVE EVENTS. TICKETING
SYSTEMS THE BILL WOULD REQUIRE
TRANSPARENT UPFRONT PRICING ON
ALL PLATFORMS IT SELL TICKETS.
AND THIS IS A CONSUMER
PROTECTION BILL. TOO OFTEN
CONSUMERS GONE PLATFORMS AND
FIND TICKETS THEY THINK WILL FIT
WITHIN THEIR BUDGETS ONLY TO
FIND OUT THAT THE CHECK UP. AT
THE CHECK OUT. PAGE THAT FEES
MUST STILL BE ADDED TO THE ORDER
OR THE TICKET HAS INCREASED
SIGNIFICANTLY IN PRICE AND IT'S
INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY IN PRICE
BECAUSE OF THE MANIPULATION OF
THE SYSTEM SO THAT PEOPLE
BELIEVE THAT THE TICKETS HAVE
ALMOST SOLD OUT. OR THAT THE
PRICES GOING HIGHER AND HIGHER
AND PEOPLE NEED TO REACT
IMMEDIATELY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE
TO BUY A TICKET- WHEN IN REALITY
THERE'S LOTS MORE TICKETS TO
SELL. SB SEVEN EIGHTY FIVE WILL
IN THE HIDING GAME AND FORCE ALL
PLATFORMS TO LIST PRICES UP
FRONT. AND TO- THAT. PROTECT
CONSUMERS SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT
THE PRICE THAT THEY SEE ON THE
TAKE ON THE ON THE PLATFORM IS
THE PRICE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY
GOING TO PAY. WHAT WE FOUND IN
DOING OUR RESEARCH AND WORKING
ON THIS BILL IS IT THERE ARE A
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS THE
TICKETS ARE SOLD AND THAT- IT
GOES AS FAR AS- TO- I SITE WHICH
ALLOWS YOU TO. SAY THAT YOU WANT
TO BUY A TICKET BUT BUT ALSO
THEY'LL FINANCE IT. SO THAT- SO
THAT YOU YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT
MONEY UP FRONT. BUT THAT YOU OWE
THEM IT'S LIKE THAT IT'S LIKE A
LOAN. AND IT'S NOT. REGULATED IN
ANY WAY AND SO THE PROBLEM WITH
IT IS THAT YOU THINK YOU'RE
BUYING A TICKET BUT IN REALITY
YOU'RE YOU'RE- PAYING AT PACKED
LIKE A PAYDAY LENDER TYPE OF
PROGRAM WHEN THERE'S AND THE
INTEREST RATES FOR THE CHARGER
WHICH WHAT YOU'RE GONNA END UP
PAYING. IS NOT DISCLOSED TO YOU-
SPECIFICALLY AND SO KIND OF THE
WILD WILD WEST AND TICKET IN
TICKET SALES AND WHO ENDS UP
GETTING HURT ARE THE CONSUMERS
WHO THINK. THAT THEY NEED TO BUY
A TICKET OFF A PARTICULAR SITE
AND ACTUALLY THAT SITE MAY NOT
HAVE THE TICKET. THEY'RE GOING
TO GET IT. UP BUT THEY DON'T
HAVE IT. OR THEY- THEY END UP
BUYING SO IT'S SPECULATIVE AS TO
WHETHER THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING
TO GET A TICKET OR NOT- OR
THEY'RE BUYING SOMETHING THAT'S
BEING RESOLD OVER AND OVER AND
OVER AGAIN IN INCREASING THE
PRICE OF THE TICKET SO. WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THIS BILL
IS TO ESTABLISH SOME GUIDELINES.
TO PROTECT THE CONSUMERS TO MAKE
IT VERY CLEAR WHAT IT IS- THAT
THEY'RE PURCHASING HOW MUCH
THEY'RE PURCHASING IT FROM. AND
NOT ALLOW- SCALPERS AND BOTS TO
PLAY GAMES WITH THE SYSTEM TO BE
ABLE TO- INCREASE THE PRICE OF
THE TICKETS BEYOND WHAT WHAT IT
WAS ORIGINAL ANY YOU'VE PROBABLY
HEARD SOME VERY- FAMOUS
INCIDENTS WHERE- THE TICKET.
SALES WENT WITHIN MINUTES AND
THEY WENT WITHIN MINUTES
BECAUSE- THE AT THE BOTTOM. AB
GAMING THIS. AND- AND SNATCHING
UP TICKETS AND THEN SET
SOMETHING UP ON A RETAIL MARKET
AND THEN RIPPING OFF CUSTOMERS
AND SO. ON THIS OP BILL THIS IS
THE FIRST COMMITTEE FOR THE BILL
EXPECTED TO SEE SOME CHANGES
OVER TIME BUT THE WHOLE PURPOSE
IS TO PROTECT CONSUMERS. AND TO
PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE
SPORTS TEAMS AND THE ARTISTS
THAT ARE- THAT ARE THE ONES
PERFORMING AND THAT AREN'T
SEEING THE BENEFIT. OF THE- HI
RATED TICKETS GOING UP REALLY
HIGH. THEY DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT
OF IT- IT'S MIDDLE MIDDLE PEOPLE
THAT ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE
SITUATION SO RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR I. BOATS TODAY- I HERE
TO TESTIFY. IS WILLIE PROFITS
DUIKERS WITH THE BLACK MUSIC
ACTION COALITION AND DOWN WALL
WITH LIVE NATION ENTERTAINMENT.
GERMAN TWO MINUTES EACH. HE'S
PURSUED PLEASE I AM REALLY
PROFIT STATE IS ON THE CO
FOUNDER AND CO CHAIR OF THE
BLACK MUSIC ACTION COALITION. I
AM ALSO HERE TODAY REPRESENT A
MUSIC ARTIST ADVOCACY GROUPS WHO
EXPRESS OUR COLLECTIVE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. OF SB SEVEN EIGHT FIVE.
OKAY THANK ALL OF YOU FROM
HEARING FROM THE ARMY'S THERE
ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE DISCUSSING
CONCERT TICKETS AND MUSIC FANS.
NO ONE KNOWS AND APPRECIATE
MUSIC FANS MORE THAN YARMOUTH WE
REPRESENT THOSE ARE THAT. THEY
WORK VERY HARD WITH THE VENUES
TO PROVIDE THE BEST LIVE
EXPERIENCE TOO MANY AS MANY FANS
AS POSSIBLE. ON REGULATORS
CALPERS IS SECONDARY PLATFORMS
DO NOT CARE ABOUT ARE THESE OR
FANS IN FACT THEY PREY ON THE
FANS. SCALPERS THE SECONDARY
PLATFORMS HAVE BEEN GOING FROM
STATE TO STATE PROMOTING THEM
DALY THIS GUY'S LEGISLATION THAT
AS CALPERS IN STRIPS ON THE FROM
THEIR ABILITY TO CONTROL THE
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FANS. WE
THINK WE ARE THANKFUL FOR SERVER
CABALLERO. WHO TOOK THE TIME TO
REALLY UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE AND
SPONSOR S. B. SEVENTY FIVE THIS
BILL EMPOWERS ARE THESE IT
PROTECT THEIR FANS. ARE LOSING
THEIR FANS HAVE A SPECIAL
RELATIONSHIP AND THE FANS ARE
BEST SERVED WHEN ARE THESE HAVE
THAT CONTROL. SB SEVEN FIVE
RECOGNIZES THAT SB SEVEN FIVE
EXPLICITLY PROTECTS ALL ITS
ABILITY TO CONTROL HOW THE
TICKETS ARE SOLD. RESOLD AT
TECHNOLOGIES THAT UTILIZES THE
KEEP. THE PRICES DOWN. YOU
CONTROL TO THE AUTHORS WILL
PREVENT UNREAD SCALPERS FROM
TECH A VERY OF. FOR THESE COPPER
THE- PROCURE TAKE AND THEN SELL
THE AT EXHALL PRICES. THE
FINANCE BUY THE SEVEN PLAN. FOR
THE NOT FOR EXORBITANT PRICE.
NONE OF THE VALUE. GOES BACK TO
THE R. OR THE. OTHERS ARE TRYING
TO THIS PRICE. BY SEN OUTSIDE.
THEY ARE USING A NEW IN THE IN.
RIGHT FACED EXCHANGE WITH
TICKETS CAN BE FOR THE ORIGINAL
PRICE. BUT EXCHANGE OF HIS ON
THIS MONTH YOU HAVE TO RESELL.
AND CONDITIONS TO THE- SB SEVEN
EIGHTY FIVE WILL ESPECIALLY AT
PROTECT THESE RIGHTS ARE THESE
IN CALIFORNIA. THERE WAS ANOTHER
BILL IN THE CALIFORNIA ASSEMBLY
AB EIGHT BACK INCORRECTLY STRIPS
ARE THESE OF THEIR RIGHTS WHICH
WILL INADVERTENTLY BENEFIT THE
SCALPERS WHO MADE NO INVESTMENT
THESE ARTISTS OR VENUES. SB
SEVENTY FIVE ALSO BEAR
SPECULATIVE TICKETING AND
DECEPTIVE WEBSITES SCALPELS
ADVERTISED IS THAT THEY DON'T
POSSESS SOMETIME BEFORE THE KIDS
. ON SALE THEY USE BOTS TO
PROCURE TICKETS IT PREVENTS THEM
FROM BY TICKETS AT FACE VALUE.
SB SEVEN EIGHT FIVE CLEANS UP
THE TICKETING ECOSYSTEM AND
SIMPLY REQUIRED BY SIMPLY
REQUIRING RESELLERS THAT HAVE
PREVENTED POSSESSION OF THE
TICKET BEFORE LISTED FOR SALE
FANS WILL BE ABLE TO PURCHASE
THE TICKETS. WITH CONFIDENCE.
THERE ALL THEY'RE ALL THERE ARE
. OTHER AND ASKED OF THE BILL.
LIKE ALL IN PRICE IN BUT I HAVE
LIMIT TODAY SO I WANT TO IF
THIS. THE THAT THE IS. TO GIVE
ALL THESE BY THE CAN. IT PREVENT
ON RIGHT SCALPEL FROM GOUGING
FACE. THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME
TO. ON BEHALF OF THE ALL THIS IS
THIS. I ACTUALLY SUPPORT S.
SEVEN EIGHT FIVE. THANK YOU TWO
MINUTES PLEASE SIR. MISTER
CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE MY
NAME IS DAN WALL I AM THE
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT FOR
CORPORATE AND REGULATORY
AFFAIRS. AT LIVE NATION
ENTERTAINMENT WHICH IS THE
PARENT COMPANY OF LIVE NATION
AND TICKETMASTER. I'M HERE TODAY
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF SB
SEVEN EIGHTY FIVE WE REGARDED AS
COMMONSENSE TICKETING REFORM
THAT WILL- AS WILLIE JUST
INDICATED CLEAN UP MUCH OF THE
NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY. THAT WE SEE
IN THE LIVE EVENT. TICKETING
ECOSYSTEM IT'S PARTICULARLY
IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS
OF THE PEOPLE WHO CREATE THE
EVENTS THE ARTISTS THE TEAMS AND
THE VENUES WHO SHOULD BE THE
ONES WHO ARE DETERMINING THE
RULES FOR NOT ONLY THE INITIAL
TICKET RE SALE. BUT THE TICKET
RESALES- WHILE THERE ARE MANY
PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL THAT WE
SUPPORT I WANT TO FOCUS ON
THREE. FIRST OF ALL- LIVE NATION
ENTERTAINMENT SUPPORTS THE BASIC
PRINCIPLE. THAT THE FIRST PRICE
THE CONSUMER SEES SHOULD BE THE
FINAL PRICE THAT THEY PAY.
THAT'S THE SO CALLED ALL IN
PRICE THAT INCLUDES ALL FEES.
FOR MANY YEARS WE HAVE ADVOCATED
FOR THE INDUSTRY TO TURN TO AN
ALL IN PRICING MODEL AND WE'RE
PLEASED. TO SEE THAT SENATOR
CAFIERO HAS INCLUDED LANGUAGE TO
THIS END IN THIS BILL. BUT ALL
IN PRICING ONLY WORKS IF
EVERYONE ADOPTS IT BECAUSE
OTHERWISE THE DRAFT PRICE IS THE
ONE THAT LOOKS CHEAPEST. AND
INDEED PREJUDICES THE HONEST
PERSON TO DO. THAT HONESTY IS
PUNISHED. IT ALSO REQUIRES
EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE WE
HAVE ALL IN PRICING LEGISLATION.
IN SOME OTHER STATES NEW YORK
FOR EXAMPLE AND WE DO NOT SEE
EITHER RESELL SITES OF COMPLYING
WITH IT SO WE NEED ALL IN
PRICING LEGISLATION. AND WE NEED
EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT. LET ALSO
FULL SUPPORT THE BAN ON
SPECULATIVE. THAT SENATOR
CAFIERO DESCRIBED THIS IS JUST
AN INDEFENSIBLE PRACTICE- WHERE
ON OTHER RESALE SITES NOT
TICKETMASTER- SELLERS WILL POST
TICKETS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE
THEY DON'T HAVE THEM PHYSICALLY.
THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO BUY THEM
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE SEASON
TICKET HOLDERS THAT ARE GOING TO
GET THEM- UP SOME DAY. THEY DO
THIS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE
INITIAL. ENTHUSIASM AROUND A
SHOW AND TRIED TO GET A VERY
HIGH PRICE WHICH WILL THEN
THEY'LL GO TRY TO COVER BY
SOMETIME BETWEEN THAT IN THE
SHOW BUYING A TICKET THANK YOU I
ACTUALLY COULDN'T GET YOU THE
TICKET THAT YOU THOUGHT YOU
BOUGHT. BUT HERE TAKE THIS ONE
NOT DISCLOSING THAT THEY'RE
MAKING A HUGE PROFIT ON THAT.
THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR
THAT PRACTICE AB EIGHT WHICH WAS
MENTIONED REPORTS TO TRY TO
REGULATE IT BUT IN A WAY THAT
ACTUALLY PRESERVES THE PRACTICE
SENATOR CAFIERO THIS BILL IS
WHAT WE NEED. IT IT MAKES IT
UNLAWFUL UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES
PERIOD END OF SENTENCE. AND
FINALLY WE FULLY SUPPORT THE
LANGUAGE IN THIS BILL THAT
PROTECTS THE RIGHTS OF THE VET
PRESENTERS TO MANAGE HOW TICKETS
ARE SOLD. RESOLD AND
TRANSFERRED. WE HAVE A SERIOUS
PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY WITH
TICKET SCALPERS IN CERTAIN
RESALE SITES. FRUSTRATING
EFFORTS BY ARTIST AND SPORTS
TEAMS TO KEEP PRICES REASONABLE.
AND TO HAVE THE PROCEEDS OF
TICKET SALES GO TO THE ART. ON
INSTEAD SCALPERS WHO INTERNAL.
ARE MAKING HUGE PROFITS ON THE
SALE. WE CAN GIVE ARTISTS TOOLS
TECHNOLOGIES TO MANAGE THIS
TOOLS THAT ARTISTS FROM PEARL
JAM TO ERIC CHURCH IN TOO MANY
OTHERS HAVE UTILIZED MY HAVE TO
HAS TO WRAP IT UP SIR. HELLO SIR
YOU'RE ABOUT. NOT TWO BUT THREE
AND A HALF MINUTES GOING ON FOR
BUT THERE ARE BUT BUT THERE IS
LEGISLATION THAT THE SCALPING
COMMUNITY IS SEEKING ALL OVER
THE COUNTRY TO BAN THIS INSTEAD.
THIS BILL MAKES IT CLEAR THAT
THESE ARE THE ARTISTS RIGHTS.
THEY SHOULD BE IN CONTROL NOT
ANY TICKETING COMPANY THANK YOU
PERFECT THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY
OTHER- WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF
THIS MEASURE. NAME AFFILIATION
AND POSITION ON THE MEASURE ONLY
PLEASE THANK YOU TIM LYNCH ON
BEHALF OF THE GOLDEN STATE
WARRIORS AND WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL. THANK YOU. NEXT
PLEASE. OUR STORES OF THE BURY
COUNCIL REPRESENTING THREE
HUNDRED EMPLOYERS FROM THE
SPORTS TEAMS TO INDEPENDENT
VENUE SUPPORT THANK YOU NEXT
PLEASE. THANK YOU MELISSA CORTEZ
ON BEHALF OF THE SAN FRANCISCO
FORTY NINERS IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU X. PLEASE GOOD MORNING
SILVIO FERRARI ON BEHALF THE
NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU ANY OTHER
SUPPORT WITNESSES IN THE ROOM.
OKAY NOW LET'S HEAR FROM ANY
WITNESSES LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION ARE THERE ANY LEAD
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IN THE
ROOM. OKAY SINCE THEY'RE TWO OF
YOU LET'S SEE IF WE CAN TRY THIS
AGAIN. TWO MINUTES EACH. THANK
YOU MY NAME IS BRIAN HAAS I'M
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SPORTS
FANS COALITION WE'RE A NATIONAL
NONPROFIT. DEDICATED TO
PRESERVING THE RIGHTS OF FANS
ARE EVER PUBLIC POLICY IMPACTS
THE GAMES WE LOVE. THAT INCLUDES
PRIOR ADVOCATING FOR EQUAL PAY
FOR WOMEN ATHLETES PROBLEM
GAMBLING PROTECTIONS FOR THOSE
AT RISK OF ADDICTION. AS WELL AS
TICKETING RIGHTS FOR CONSUMERS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
TESTIFY ON SEVENTY FIVE AND HOW
IT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE FAN
EXPERIENCE. WELL SEVENTY FIVE AS
WELL INTENTIONED IT FALL SHORT
IN PROTECTING CONSUMERS AND WILL
ONLY EXACERBATE THE ISSUES FANS
ARE SEEING THEIR TICKET BUYING
EXPERIENCE. THE BILL REGULATES
ONE SIDE OF THE MARKET PLACE
MOST CONCERNING THE BILL
PRESERVES AN EXISTING EXEMPTION.
STATUTE FOR PRIMARY CONTRACTOR
SUCH AS TICKETMASTER AXS. WHICH
RAISES THE QUESTION WHETHER THE
NEW PROVISIONS OF SEVENTY FIVE
EVEN APPLY TO THEM. THIS WOULD
INCLUDE PROVISIONS ENQUIRING
RETAILERS SHOULD DISCLOSE THE
TICKETS ALL IN PRICE CREATING
TWO DIFFERENT CONSUMER
EXPERIENCES. WHICH LEAD TO
CONFUSION AND CONSUMER HARM.
SECONDLY SEVENTY FIVE PROPOSES
TO CODIFY THE ABILITY. OF A VENN
PRESENTERS TO UNILATERALLY SET
TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT
EXHORTATION CAN TROLL OVER
CONSUMERS RIGHTS ONCE THE TICKET
IS OBTAINED. INCLUDED AFTER
PURCHASE UNFORTUNATELY CONSUMERS
HAVE NO BARGAINING POWER OR
ABILITY TO INFLUENCE THESE
TERMS. WHICH ARE OFTEN UNFAIR
AND USED TO LIMIT CONSUMER
CHOICE AND STIFLE COMPETITION.
KILEY WE'VE SEEN MANY EXAMPLES
OF CONSUMERS BEING USED AS PAWNS
BY EVENT PRESENTERS AND ORIGINAL
TICKET SELLERS AND THEIR EFFORT
TO INGRAIN EXISTING MONOPOLIES.
AND EXERCISE CONTROL TICKETS
THAT I'VE ALREADY BEEN
PURCHASED. IN TWO THOUSAND
NINETEEN MEDIA REPORTED THAT
HUNDREDS OF CUSTOMERS THAT
PURCHASE LEGITIMATE TICKETS FOR
AN EVENT AT THE WILTERN THEATRE
IN LA. WERE DENIED ADMISSION TO
THE EVENT SOLELY BECAUSE THEY
HAVE PURCHASED TICKETS ON
SECONDARY TICKET MARKET PLACES.
IMAGINE THAT HAPPENING ON THE
SCALE OF A SACRAMENTO KINGS
GAME. UNFORTUNATELY THIS
PROVISION FORTIFIES THE ABILITY
OF OUR PRESENTERS TO ACT IN THIS
MANNER. PERHAPS WHAT IS MOST
TELLING WITH RESPECT SEVENTY
FIVE IS WHAT'S MISSING FROM IT.
STATE NATIONAL CONSUMER GROUPS
HAVE CALLED FOR INCREASED
TRANSPARENCY ABOUT TICKETS HAN
AND HOW THE ALLOCATED AND
DISTRIBUTED TO CONSUMERS. YES
SEVEN EIGHTY FIVE INCLUDES NO
NEW TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS
FOR IS THAT VENT ORGANIZES OR
PRIMARY TICKET SELLERS. IT'S
ALSO CONCERNING THE SEVENTY FIVE
PROVIDES EVENT PRESENTERS AN
ORIGINAL TICKET SELLER IS A
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION AGAINST
THEIR COMPETITORS. ESSENTIALLY
PRIVATIZING ENFORCEMENT BUT
FAILED TO GIVE THAT SAME EXPRESS
RIGHT TO CONSUMERS. IS
PARTICULARLY EGREGIOUS OVERSIGHT
AND LEGAL ENVIRONMENT WHILE LIVE
NATION ENTERTAINMENT AND ITS
SUBSIDIARY TICKETMASTER. ARE
UTILIZING MANDATORY ARBITRATION
PROVISIONS IN THEIR TERMS AND
CONDITIONS. THE FORCE CONSUMER
BASE LAWSUIT INTO ARBITRATION.
IF YOU TRULY WANT TO PROTECT
FANS YOU SHOULD CONSIDER
INTRODUCING AND PASSING OUR
MODEL TICKET BUYER BILL OF
RIGHTS WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN
YOUR- COMMITTEE REPORT TODAY. IN
THE WAKE OF A DISTURBING TREND
OF POOR FAN EXPERIENCES DURING
THE TICKET BUYING PROCESS SPORTS
FANS COALITION THE NATIONAL
CONSUMERS LEAGUE. CONSUMER
FEDERATION OF AMERICA FAN
FREEDOM CONSUMER ACTION PUBLIC
KNOWLEDGE. AND THE NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF CONSUMER
ADVOCATES. DEVELOP A SET OF
PRINCIPLES TO PROTECT FANS KNOWN
AS THE TICKET BUYER BILL OF
RIGHTS. THESE INCLUDE THE RIGHT
TO TRANSFER TRANSFER ABILITY THE
RIGHT TO TRANSPARENCY IN THE
RIGHT TO SET THE PRICE. THE
RIGHT TO A FAIR MARKET PLACE AND
THE RIGHT TO RECOURSE. WE ARE
ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE ADAGE
WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS
GOOD FOR THE GANDER. WELL THIS
BILL FLIPS THAT ON ITS HEAD AND
SAYS WHAT'S BAD FOR THE GOOSE IS
GOOD FOR THE GANDER. OUR TICKET
BUYER BILL OF RIGHTS ON THE
OTHER HAND PRIORITIZE CONSUMERS
AND EQUALLY REGULATES BOTH SIDES
OF THE INDUSTRY. IT SHIFTS THE
BALANCE OF CONTROL FROM THE
TICKET SELLERS TO THE TICKET
BUYERS AND CALLS FOR HEIGHTENED
TRANSPARENCY ACROSS THE ENTIRE
INDUSTRY. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO
CONSIDER THESE CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS BEFORE MOVING
FORWARD WITH THE BILL THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SIR NEXT PLEASE. THANK
YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. MISTER
CHAIR MEMBERS ARE NOT YOUR HANDS
ON BEHALF. OF THE CONSUMER
FEDERATION OF CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION- ME I MIGHT JUST MY
COMMENTS OF A BASED ON- THE-
BRIGHTNESS BUT- LET ME JUST
MENTION THAT THE CONSUMER
FEDERATION CALIFORNIA WHEN WE
COME. UP AT THIS ISSUE WE
RECOGNIZE THAT THE TO THE TICKET
ECOSYSTEM NEEDS. A MAJOR
OVERHAUL WE'VE SEEN THAT OVER
THE LAST. FEW YEARS WE'VE SEEN
SO MANY PROBLEMS. IN PARTICULAR
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON WHAT'S GOING
TO BE BEST FOR THE INDIVIDUAL
CONSUMER- THERE ARE A COUPLE OF
PROVISIONS IN HERE THAT ALL HAVE
SOME MERIT. THAT'S THE ONLY WORK
BUT WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THE
BALANCE OF THE BILL. THE
OVERWHELMING. MAJORITY OF THE
BILL IS FOCUSED ON. NOT IMPOSING
CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ON THE
ORIGINAL SELLERS OF TICKETS- THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS IS MADE CLEAR
FOR EXAMPLE. THAT THE
REQUIREMENT. THAT THIS THE
SALARY TICKET INDICATE THE
SPECIFIC SEE WHERE THE VENUE THE
MAP ALL THAT INFORMATION IS
CRITICAL. FOR CONSUMERS. THE
REQUIREMENT LEVINE THAT
INFORMATION IS ONLY ON A RESET-
SELLER AND NOT ON THE ORIGINAL
TICKET SELLER THAT IS A MAJOR
GAP THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED-
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER
GAPS- THAT THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS RIGHTLY POINTS OUT.
EXCUSE ME I. WORK RALLY POINTS
OUT THAT ARE ONLY IMPOSING
REQUIREMENTS ON RESELLERS AND
NOT ON THE ORIGINAL TICKET
SELLERS. WE NEED TO SEE THE SAME
TYPE OF REQUIREMENTS ON ORIGINAL
SELLERS AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A
MUCH BETTER DISCUSSION ON THE
BILL. I LET ME POINT OUT THAT
THE AUTHOR OF A LOT OF RESPECT
FOR WORKED ON BILLS WORKED OUT
OF MEMPHIS UP WITH. HER OVER THE
YEARS. POINTED OUT ABOUT THE
FINANCING. I'LL JUST KEEP IN
MIND I BELIEVE AS I UNDERSTAND
THIS BILL- IT WILL. CURRENT
PRACTICES THAT THEIR ORIGINAL
SELLERS THAT DO SAY BUY NOW PAY
LATER. AND THAT THIS BILL WOULD
NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF MANDATE TO
REGULATIONS ON THAT PRACTICE. SO
WE SEE A LOT OF GAPS HERE IN
THIS BILL IF YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT
TOO MUCH BUT THEM ON THE SCALE
FOR REGIONAL SELLERS. WE THINK
THOSE ISSUES NEED TO BE
ADDRESSED BEFORE KICK IT SHOULD
BE SUPPORTED. AND. ALWAYS
WILLING TO SIT DOWN TALK WITH
THE AUTHOR GOING FORWARD THANK
YOU. THANK SIR ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION WOULD MISS IN THE
HEARING ROOM. NAME AFFILIATION
POSITION ON THE MEASURE PLEASE
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS COURTNEY
JOHNSON ON BEHALF OF SEEK AND
PICK PICK IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU THANKS PLEASE. HELLO MY NAME
IS JOHN F. ON BEHALF OF STUBHUB
HEADQUARTERED HERE IN CALIFORNIA
NEW YORK CITY WE ARE OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED. OUR CONCERNS
ALIGN WITH MANY OF THE ISSUES
RAISED IN THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
THE COMMITTEE. AND THE AUTHOR ON
LANGUAGE THAT TREATS ALL TICKET
SELLERS EQUALLY AS WELL AS
INCORPORATING OTHER MEANINGFUL
CONSUMER PROTECTIONS MENTIONED
BY THE PRIOR THANK YOU SIR NEXT
PLEASE. GOOD MORNING ANDREA
DEVOE ON BEHALF OF VIVID SEATS
WILL JUST ALIGN OURSELVES WITH
THE COMMENTS MADE PREVIOUSLY
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED THANK YOU
ANY OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES
IN THE ROOM. LET'S NOW MOVE TO
THE TELECONFERENCE ORVIS
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT. ANYONE ON THE
TELECONFERENCE OF HIS WHO WISHES
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE WILL
TAKE THEM. NOW THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR IF YOUR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO SB SEVEN EIGHTY
FIVE. PLEASE TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY PRESS ONE FOLLOWED
BY ZERO ONE FIVE EIGHT ZERO.
WILL BEGIN TODAY WITH WINE DINE
YOU ARE OPEN. GOOD MORNING MY
NAME IS JOHN BRADY- AND I AM THE
VICE PRESIDENT. OF PUBLIC POLICY
COMMUNICATIONS AND FRAUD WITH
THE NATIONAL CONSUMERS LEAGUE.
NCL RESPECTFULLY OPPOSES SB
SEVENTY FIVE. THANK YOU NEXT
PLEASE. I NEXT WE ARE GOING TO
GO TO LINE NINETEEN YOU ARE
OPEN. NINE NINETEEN. THERE THAT
THAT CHOICE. OPPOSITION SB SEVEN
EIGHT FIVE. THANK YOU NEXT
PLEASE. THANK YOU LINE TWENTY
TWO PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHRIS SPEDDING WHO
PRESIDENT VAN FREEDOM PROJECT IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU NEXT
PLEASE. ONE THIRTY EIGHT YOU ARE
OPEN. MISTER CHAIRMAN VERSION
DOES NOT ON BEHALF OF SIGNED
AFTER THE SCREEN ACTOR'S GUILD
AMERICAN FEDERATION OF
TELEVISION AND RADIO ARTISTS IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE.
MY TWENTY SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD
. GOOD MORNING. NUMBER OF THE
COMMITTEE VICTORIA MONTHLY FEE
FROM ACCESS HE CAN'T. ARE
REGISTERING OUR STRONG SUPPORT
FOR THIS BILL AND THANK YOUR
CATHOLIC CALIFORNIA. THEY YOU
NEXT PLEASE. WHY FORTY YOUR OPEN
. ERIN WITTY I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
CONSUMER PROTECTION FOR CONSUMER
FEDERATION OF AMERICA AND THE
FAA OPPOSES THIS BILL THANK YOU
. IT WILL GIVE ONE MORE REMINDER
HERE- IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION PLEASE PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZEROS THIS TIME AND
THAT IS BILL SB SEVEN EIGHT
FIVE. BY FORTY SIX PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GERMINATED BRUCE MARS GO
FEARS OF NOW- ARE STRONG
PROPERTY TUESDAY THANK YOU NEXT
PLEASE. HI MISTER WE HAVE THE
QUEUE THE YOU VERY MUCH NO
SPRING DISCUSS BACK TO
COLLEAGUES THE DOES CA QUESTION
COMING. HER NEW LOW FOR BY
SENATOR. THANK YOU MUCH. FOR A
REASONS THAT A BEEN ARE. BUT
FROM PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE
PROVISION OF PRIVATE RIGHT OF
ACTION I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS BILL
AS IT EXISTS BUT I KNOW THAT THE
GOOD SENATOR IS A COLLABORATOR
AND I KNOW THIS BILL IS GOING TO
CHANGE SO FOR THAT REASON I'M
JUST GONNA LAY OFF. THANK YOU
THANK YOU SIR CENTER BAKER. YEAH
I WAS GONNA SAY PRE SHOOT
TACKLING THIS ISSUE AND I WAS
HIS. IMPORTANT COMPLICATED A LOT
OF. COMMENTS I JUST. I DO
APPRECIATE APPROACH WHERE
PERFORMERS IN TEAMS ARE GOING TO
HAVE CONTROL OVER. THE TICKETING
AND THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE
PRODUCT WILL HAVE CONTROL AND
APPRECIATE THAT- YOU RIGHT AGAIN
I KNOW THERE'S AND ALL IN
PRICING AND A LOT OF THINGS HE
MENTIONS ONE OF THOSE. A LOT TO
WORK THROUGH BY WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY LOOK
FOR TO GET TO DISCUSSIONS THANK
YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU CENTER
SURESH B. AT SO LET ME JUST
START WITH THAT SERIOUS PART
WHICH IS- I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING
REALLY HARD ON THIS BILL AND I
KNOW YOU HAVE OPPOSITION THAT
YOU'RE STILL WORKING WITH. SO
AGAIN FIRST COMMITTEE I KNOW TO
LOOK DIFFERENT NEXT TIME WE SEE
IT AND I KNOW YOU YOU'LL WORK
HARD. ON THAT THE DRESSING THEIR
PROBLEMS. I WAS PREPARED TO VOTE
YES ON THIS TODAY WHEN I CAME IN
INTEL I HEARD THE WARRIORS.
SUPPORTED WELL. AND NOW EVERY
BIT OF MY SACRAMENTO KINGS HEART
IS LIKE WHY WOULD I DO THAT. AND
SO LET ME JUST SAY LOOK IT THE
GIANTS WE'RE HERE IN SEATTLE SO
I'M NOT HELPING ON GAME TO DATE
RIGHT YOU GUYS ARE YOU WITH ME
ON THIS RIGHT SACRAMENTO PEOPLE
IN THE ROOM OKAY. MAKE ME FEEL A
LITTLE BIT BUT- IF YOU. FOR THE
KEY TONIGHT MAYBE- I'D BETTER
BETTER. THE CENTER OF OUR
ORIGINAL. HAVE I WILL SAY THAT I
ONE OF THOSE CONSUMERS THAT GETS
DISCOURAGED BECAUSE I LOOK
FORWARD TO SEEING MY FAVORITE
ARTIST OR GOING TO A SPORTS
EVENT AND- NOT BEING IN THE
FIRST. FIVE OR FIFTEEN MINUTES
AND BEEN BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER
TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOMETHING
SO I ABHOR THE BOX- AND THE
WHOLE SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE LOOKING
TO HELP REGULATE AB AND- I
REALLY COMMEND YOU ON BECAUSE AS
A- AS A CONSUMER IT'S VERY
FRUSTRATING. UP TO BE LOST IN
THIS LABYRINTH- THE QUESTION
THAT I HAVE IN THIS IS FOR
CLARIFICATION IS- SPEAKING ON.
THE NOTE FOR THE POINT OF THE
OPPOSITION. WHY IS THERE THE
DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE
ORIGINAL SELLERS TICKET
RESELLERS TICKET MARKETPLACES
ABOUT PRESENTERS LIKE WHY. WHY
THE SECONDARY BUT NOT THE
PRIMARY MARKET. I'M NOT SURE I
UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION BUT LET
ME JUST SAY THAT THE- THAT
TICKET BUYER BILL OF RIGHTS WAS
IDENTIFIED RIGHT AND- AND-
THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING ON THAT
THAT DOESN'T. MAKES SENSE TO ME
IN OTHER WORDS IT I YOU KNOW IT
IT'S A QUESTION OF. WRITING IT
UP AND GETTING EVERYBODY TO
AGREE THAT THAT- THAT IT'S THE
DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO AND LET
ME JUST SAY THAT. THAT THE
ORIGINAL TICKET SELLERS. ARE THE
ONES THAT ARE GOING TO GET THE
TICKETS. AND IT THE BOTTOM BEING
USED. BY AT THESE BIG BLOCKS.
AND THEN THEY END UP IN OTHER ON
SOME OF THE OTHER PLATFORMS. AND
SO THERE'S THIS COMPETITION. AND
THE COMPETITION IS WHAT YOU SAW
HERE TODAY IT'S THAT WE WANT TO
BE I HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE
YEAH BUT YOU DIDN'T GET THE
TICKETS ORIGINALLY RIGHT SO IT'S
PART OF THE CHALLENGE OF TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE DO THIS.
SO THAT THERE IS- PROTECTION FOR
THE CONSUMER SO WHEN YOU GO ON
YOU KNOW THAT- YOU'RE YOU'RE
BUYING FROM AN ORIGINAL SITE AND
THERE THERE ARE. THERE ARE YOU
ARE YOU ARE ELSE THAT- THAT ALSO
ARE VERY VERY SIMILAR. I DON'T
HAVE BACK THAT REALLY HAVE
ACCESS TO THE TICKETS ARE NICK
AND ARE GOING TO TRY TO BUY THEM
OFF THE SECONDARY MARKET SO. SO
WHAT IT'S DOING IS INFLATING THE
COST FOR EVERYTHING- AND SO THE
QUESTION BECOMES WHERE DO WE CUT
IT OFF- SO THAT- WHERE DO WHERE
DO WE SAY THE TICKETS SHOULD
RESIDE. SO THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE
GETTING THE TICKET. AND THAT
YOU'RE GETTING THE ALL IN
PRICING RIGHT- IT'S GOING TO BE
TO FORCE SOME OF THE MODELS TO
CHANGE BOTH FOR. THE OUT OF
EXISTENCE BECAUSE IT IT IT IS.
IT'S A. IT'S A SCAM IS REALLY
WHAT IT IS IT'S ON SOME SITES
THAT ARE SAYING THEY HAVE
TICKETS BUT THEY DON'T HAVE
TICKETS AND THEY'RE GOING TO SEE
IF THEY CAN GET THE TICKETS AND
SO THEY'RE- THEY'RE PUTTING THEM
UP FOR SALE AND PEOPLE ARE
SENDING THE MONEY- YOU KNOW. OR
SIGNING A LOAN. DOCUMENT THAT
NOW- REQUIRES THEM TO PAY THEM
OFF A WHOLE HECK A LOT OF A LOT
OF MONEY. FOR TICKETS THAT
NOBODY HAS NOT BEEN THAT THE
SITE DOESN'T HAVE AND THE- AND
THE PURCHASER MAY NEVER GET-
THEY MAY GET A TICKET BUT IT MAY
BE MAY NOT BE THE ONE THEY
WANTED OR- EVEN CLOSE TO WHERE
THEY WANTED TO SET. AND SO IT'S
- THE CHALLENGES IS WHERE DO YOU
WHERE DO YOU COULD MAKE THE LINE
SO THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT YOU
CAN'T. UTILIZE AN EAGLE ILLEGAL
SYSTEM THE BATTERY AND IF THIS
BILL PASSES BECOMES IN THE LEGAL
SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IT'S PART OF
THE ECOSYSTEM AND THERE'S
NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. AND
IT'S A FRUSTRATING EXPERIENCE AS
YOU SAID INDEED THANK YOU SIR
ROB. THANK YOU- SO I'M A PERSON
WHO DOES ENJOY GOING TO CONCERTS
AND LIKE YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY WE
WANT TO SEE THE LEGENDS KIND OF-
PLAY. IT HAS BEEN VERY
PROBLEMATIC PURCHASING TICKETS-
JUST FOR AN AVERAGE PERSON WHO
CAN'T COMPETE WITH THE BOX CAN'T
PURCHASE- ONE IF THEY'RE- HI
SPEED INTERNET DOESN'T. YOU KNOW
HIT THAT MARKET- AND IT'S NOT
JUST YOU KNOW CONCERT TICKETS
AND- AT GAMING EVENTS BUT IT'S
ALSO. A SENATOR ASHLEY AND I
WERE CHATTING- YOU KNOW SHOES
SNEAKERS THINGS LIKE THAT I
THINK ALL OF US. NO AND LATEST.
KICKS KIND OF DROP- YOU CAN'T
COMPETE RIGHT- I DID I WAS A
LITTLE YOU KNOW. I'M ALWAYS A
LITTLE THROWN OFF WHEN. THERE'S
A LOT OF ADVOCATES IN THE ROOM
THAT ARE SUPPORTING THIS BILL
FROM THE INSTITUTIONS THAT DO
BREAK DOWN THESE BILLS YOU KNOW
YOU PAY FOR YOUR PARKING
SEPARATELY YOU PAY FOR- THE-
WHEN IT'S SENT VIA EMAIL TO YOUR
PHONE YOU PAY FOR A CONVENIENCE
CHARGE YOU. YOU JUST KEEP PAYING
FOR WAY TOO MANY THINGS RIGHT
THINGS THAT YOU KNOW TEN YEARS
AGO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR.
RIGHT AND SO THAT IS ALWAYS MY
CONCERN WHEN FOLKS COME IN-
TALKING ABOUT THIS I JUST WANTED
TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE
AS TO THE TICKET BUYER BILL OF
RIGHTS THAT WAS REFERENCE AND
OBVIOUSLY AND THEN ALICE'S- HOW
HOW DOES YOUR BILL. INCORPORATE
SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS AND THEN
POTENTIALLY HOW DO YOU PLAN ON
INCORPORATING FUTURE CONCERNS.
WELL THAT- THERE THERE ARE A
NUMBER OF THINGS THE TICKET THAT
THE TICKET BUYER BILL OF RIGHTS.
AND I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT
IN FRONT OF ME WHEN I HAVE.
ANALYSIS RIGHT SO- ALL IN
UPFRONT PRICING NO SURPRISE FEES
AT CHECKOUT WITH THAT PART OF
THE BILL- MANDATING PRIMARY
PRIMARY TICKET SELLING COMPANIES
TO REPORT ALL TICKET BOT
ACTIVITY TO THE APPROPRIATE
AUTHORITIES. FRANKLY DON'T
REMEMBER THAT'S IN THE BILL OR
NOT BUT WE'VE MADE IT ILLEGAL
AND SO IF- IF REPORTING IS
REQUIRED. IF REPORTING IS
SOMETHING THAT THE PRIMARY
COMPANY CAN DO THEN BY ALL MEANS
I I'M NOT. FAMILIAR WITH HOW
BOTS OPERATE BUT- YOU KNOW
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S
KIND OF A NO. A NO BRAINER-
CLEARING CONSPICUOUS DISCLOSURE
WHEN A TICKET SELLER DOES NOT
HAVE A TICKET IN THE POSITION.
OR A CONTRACTUAL RIGHT I THAT'S
PART OF THE BILL- SOME OF THESE.
MAY NOT BE PART OF THE BILL BUT
COULD BE INCLUDED VERY EASILY
LIKE A GUARANTEE OF UNRESTRICTED
TRANSFER OF ALL TICKETS- IF YOU
BUY A TICKET. AND YOU YOU CAN'T
GO IN THE END AND YOU WANT TO
GIVE IT TO YOUR- FAMILY MEMBER
SELL IT TO A FAMILY MEMBER.
BECAUSE YOUR CHEAP- AND THEN-
THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY
RESTRICTION ON THAT EITHER- I
DON'T THINK WE ADDRESS THAT IN
THE BILL BUT IT'S CERTAINLY
SOMETHING THAT I WOULD AGREE
WITH- A PROHIBITION ON DECEPTIVE
EUROA YOU ARE ELSE AND OTHER
FRAUDULENT RESELLER PRACTICE
THAT'S- THAT'S THE BILL. SO THE
POINT IS THAT I THINK WERE
PRETTY CLOSE IT'S JUST A
QUESTION OF FIGURING OUT- SOME
OF THE- LANGUAGE IT'S GOING TO
BE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING-
WE'RE REALLY PROTECTING
CONSUMERS MIGHT MY GOAL AS I
SAID AT THE BEGINNING IS TO
PROTECT CONSUMERS. AND SO IT'S
DISTURBING TO ME TO HAVE
CONSUMER ORGANIZATIONS NOT
SUPPORTING IT BUT I THINK WE CAN
GET THERE EVENTUALLY THEY MAY
JUST. THINK I NEED TO GO FURTHER
SO I WE NEED TO TALK YOU KNOW I
WILL ALSO SAY ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT THE REASON WHY THIS BILL
IT'S IMPORTANT AND I THINK THAT
IT'S RUNNING RAMPANT. ACROSS AS
A SAID IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT
ARENAS- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
ALWAYS LOVED THIS ARGUMENT AND
SLIGHTLY DISAGREE WITH IT. IS
WHEN THEY SAY THAT- IT FIRMER
FURTHER LIMITS COMPETITION. OUT
WE HEAR THAT OFTEN WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT. THE FREE MARKET AND IT'S
NOT ACCURATE BECAUSE THERE HAS
TO BE SOME SAFEGUARDS
SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE. AND THE
OPPONENTS OF THIS BILL KIND OF
HIGHLIGHT THAT- BUT THE REALITY
IS THAT BECAUSE OF BOTS BEING IN
PLAY BECAUSE THERE ARE RESELLERS
THAT ARE BUYING THIS AND HALF
THE TIME AT. TEN AM ON A FRIDAY
OR SPECIAL PRIVILEGES THAT THEY
CAN PURCHASE THE TICKETS HAD.
THERE ACTUALLY JACKING UP THE
PRICE IS THERE ANY PROVISION IN
THIS BILL THAT STATES. FOR NOT
REPORTING IN PARTICULAR WHEN.
LET'S SAY YOU HAVE AN ARENA. YOU
HAVE A THOUSAND SEATS SO OPPOSE
IT LEAVES SO OUT BUT ONLY FIVE
HUNDRED PEOPLE SHOWED UP. ARE
THERE ANY TYPE OF REPORTING
MECHANISMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT
MORE TRANSPARENT AS TO WHAT IS
GOING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE REALLY
SHOWED UP AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT
. I'M IT WHAT IT WHAT'S THE
INTEREST THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
PROTECT I MEAN I'M I'M SAID
CIVICALLY YOU KNOW. BECAUSE THE
TICKETS ARE BEING. FACTLY SOLD
OR LIKE AT A THOUSAND DOLLARS
RIGHT LIKE BEYONCE INDICATES
MADONNA TICKETS YOU KNOW ALL THE
PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD BE. PAYING
MAX TWO FIFTY FOUR- THERE BEING
RESOLD AND RESOLD AND RESOLD
RIGHT- SO KIND OF I JUST KIND OF
WANTED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE
BIT LIKE IS THERE TRANSPARENCY
AS TO. YES WE HAD A THOUSAND
SEATS IT WAS ONLY IT TO CAPACITY
AT TWELVE PERCENT- AND WHEN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPORTING
AND KIND OF. ATTENTION GETTING
MORE DATA TO KIND OF CURB THIS
BEHAVIOR SO YOU'RE TALKING. THE
REASON I ASK THE QUESTION IS
BECAUSE THERE'S REPORTING AHEAD
OF TIME YEAH WHAT'S GOING ON
WITH THE TICKET SALES AND THEN
THERE'S REPORTING AFTERWARDS-
WHAT WHAT DUMB. WHAT I
UNDERSTAND IS THAT THERE ARE
MANY TIMES IT ARTISTS WILL-
MAINTAIN CONTROL OF SOME OF THE
TICKETS BECAUSE THEY HAVE.
ALTRUISTIC MOTIVES IN TERMS OF
HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE
THOSE TICKETS THEY MAY GIVE THEM
TO A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND SAY
YOU CAN RAISE MONEY- SELLING
THESE TICKETS- OR WHAT THEY DO
IS THEY BRING IN A GROUP AND SAY
YOU'RE- YOU'RE- IN FOR FREE. AND
SO PART OF THAT- THAT THAT THE
TRANSPARENCY IS AFTER THE FACT
TRANSPARENCY BECOMES REAL REAL
EASY BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN SAY
HERE'S WHAT WE DID WITH THE
TICKETS. AND IN THAT THAT
SITUATION IF- IF FIVE HUNDRED
TICKETS WERE SOLD OUT OF A
THOUSAND- AND GET THE REST
DIDN'T SELL. THE BILL THE M.
TEAM THAT THAT THAT HAS HAS THE
GAME IT'S GOING TO BE PLAYED OR
THE ARTISTS NOW HAS NO CONTROL
OVER THERE'S THOSE TICKETS
BECAUSE THEY BEEN SOLD. ON THE
SECONDARY MARKET BUT THERE'S NO
BUYER FOR THEM IN OTHER WORDS
THEY'VE GONE UP THEY'VE BEEN UP
SO HIGH. THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD
HIM ANYMORE AND SO NOW ALL OF A
SUDDEN THEY DON'T HAVE CONTROL
OVER THEIR OWN TICKETS ANYMORE
AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM
IS THAT. IS THAT THE WAY THE
SYSTEM IS BEEN SET UP THE ARTIST
LOSES THEIR ABILITY TO BE ABLE
TO CONTROL WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH
THE FAN EXPERIENCE. AND
ABSOLUTELY THE LAST THING THEY
WANT IS TO HAVE IS TO DO A
CONCERT AND THEN FIND OUT THAT
HAVE TO. THE VENUE IS EMPTY
BECAUSE IT THEY GOT UP SO MUCH
AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO AVOID HERE OKAY. AND
SENATOR I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THIS IN THIS COMMITTEE I
OBVIOUSLY HAVE CONCERNS BECAUSE
I CARE. TO YOUR POINT AS WELL-
ABOUT THE CONSUMER IN
PARTICULAR- AND I THINK THAT YOU
ARE. DEFINITELY IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION I HOPE THAT YOU KNOW
EVENTUALLY THERE CAN BE AN
AGREEMENT ON BOTH ENDS- BUT I DO
JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE
YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS AND THIS IS
ACTUALLY A REAL PROBLEM FOR
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENJOY. THEIR
LIVES AND FAMILY MEMBERS AND TO
HAVE EXPERIENCES SO THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU
CENTERS ARE WILK. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR THANK YOU FOR
TAKING ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT
COMPLICATED ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S
SOMETHING THAT- CRIED CRIES OUT
FOR REFORM. GOING TO THE BILLS
WHEN THE CHALLENGES I SEE WITH
IT. IS THAT IS. IS NOT A LEVEL
PLAYING FIELD YOU'RE NOT
TREATING ALL ACTORS THE SAME.
YOU KNOW LIVE NATION CAME UP
HERE WAS CRYING POOR. THANK
CONTROLLED TICKETMASTER LIVE
NATION. NINETY PERCENT. OF THE
OF THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
MARKET. AND THEY HAVE IT THEY
HAVE THE TICKETMASTER RESALE.
THEY PLAY IN THE SECONDARY
MARKET AS WELL AND I FROM
EVERYTHING I'VE READ. THEY GET
THE TICKETS BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE
DOES. SO I'M GONNA LAY OFF THE
BILL TODAY- ONLY BECAUSE I TRY I
MEAN I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS
WITH THE BILL- BUT I TRUST YOU.
AND HOPEFULLY AND HOPEFULLY WE
GET THERE- AGAIN- MY STEP PULLED
OUT SOME FIGURES. LAST YEAR ON
SECONDARY MARKET. CONSUMERS PAID
FOUR POINT FIVE BILLION DOLLARS
THAT'S FOUR POINT FIVE BILLION
DOLLARS- THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
IN THEIR POCKETS INSTEAD. WINTEL
WHEREVER BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT
CRIES OUT FOR REFORM IN I'M
HOPING TO GET THERE THANK YOU.
FOR SHE ADDED THANK YOU CENTER.
A CENTER I WILL BE- I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TO GIVE YOU
AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO
WORK ON THIS WE HAD A VERY GOOD
CONVERSATION- I WAS ABLE TO
EXPRESS TO YOU- THE VIEW THAT I
THOUGHT THE BILL FRANKLY STRIKES
ORIGINAL SELLER. FOR LANGUAGE
THAT. PRIOR PRIOR TO THIS BILL
IF ENACTED EXISTS SO I THINK
THERE IS SOME VALUE IN TAKING A
LOOK AT. HOOTING AT RE INSERTING
THE PHRASE ORIGINAL SELLER AND
SOME OF THE PROVISIONS OF YOUR
BILL. WE DISCUSSED THE PENALTIES
AND THE AMOUNT OF THE PENALTIES
IN THE APPLICATION OF THE
PENALTIES IS THE BILL PROVIDES I
THINK THAT. NEED TO TAKE A LOOK
AT THAT. I THINK WITH RESPECT TO
THE- CIVIL ACTION. WE DISCUSSED
TO. THE CONCEPT OF PREVAILING
PARTY WITH REGARD TO THE
RECOVERY OF ATTORNEY'S FEES AND
COSTS IN ORDER TO GIVE THE- THE
CIVIL ACTION AND THE RECOVERY
SOME BALANCE. AMONG OTHER THINGS
AND I KNOW YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT
THOSE- ISSUES AND THE OTHER ONES
WE DISCUSSED AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO SEEING THE- THE PRODUCT AT
THE END. WITH THAT WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE. SATURDA I AM SO
SORRY GERMAN. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T
WANT TO BE GOOD FUN I I'M OKAY
WITH I DON'T. WHAT TALK
AFTERWARDS WHY I GUESS JUST REAL
QUICKLY YOU KNOW. I BOUGHT FOUR
TICKETS LAST NIGHT TO THE GAME
TONIGHT. IT I WAS A YOU KNOW
THE- TICKET MASTER I'M A CO
AUTHOR OF THIS BILL AND I'M OKAY
WITH IT I'M GONNA SUPPORT IT
TODAY. BUT I'LL TELL YOU IT TO
THE CENTER WILL SUPPORT IT'S NOT
A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. AS I GET
CHARGED EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS
FOR. EXTRA FEES OVER EXORBITANT
LOOK AT SUPPLY DEMAND I DECIDED
BY HIM GREAT SO I'M ALL IT. BUT
THIS JUST KIND OF HIT HOME THIS
MORNING HERE- ODD ON THIS ISSUE
IS AYE LET'S LISTEN TO SOME OF
THE OPPOSITION. GO KINGS. I
FORGET THAT I ASK CENTER CARRIER
LIKE TO CLOSE. HIS I REALLY. ALL
THE DISCUSSION I APPRECIATE THE
ATTENTION PAID. TO THIS BILL
THIS WAS GOING TO BE A VERY
SIMPLE BILL. I GOT INTO IT AND
IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT-
YOU REALIZE IS MUCH MORE
COMPLICATED I'M INTERESTED IN
PROTECTING THE CONSUMER HAVING A
GOOD CONSUMER EXPERIENCE. BUT I
ALSO WANT TO BE FAIR AND SO I'M
MY COMMITMENT IS ALL CONTINUE TO
WORK ON THE BILL. THANK YOU
CENTER I'M CERTAIN WE HAVE A
MOTION SOMEWHERE ON THE BILL.
COLLEAGUES SENATOR S. B. MOVES
THE BILL. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED THE SENATE JUDICIARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ROTH HI
ROTH I AM WHEN. OF OUR TO GAIL.
A VERY KILL NOW. ARCHULETA HI
ARCHULETA I ASHBY. AYE ASHBY AYE
BAKER. DOT AYE DODD AYE EGGMAN.
GLAZER NAY LOW. SMALLER TRAVIS
WHAT HARM. WILL HARM AYE WILK.
THE VOTE IS A FIVE TO ONE LOCAL
KEEP THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS VERY MUCH MR CARE. FOR
GOING TO TAKE A PAUSE. THE NEW
-
WOOD. OKAY WELL. NEWS OF. THE.
LET'S OPEN THE ROLAND WHILE
WE'RE WAITING ON OUR NEXT AUTHOR
LET'S OPEN THE ROLE ON- ITEMS
WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON- ITEM
NUMBER ONE SENATE BILL TWO
EIGHTY FIVE SENATOR ALAN CURRENT
VOTE IS. EIGHT ZERO SIX BIRCHER
VOTING I. WHEN NOW BAKER DOT AYE
THOUGHT I EGGMAN GLAZER. VOTE IS
NINE TO ONE WILL HOLD OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. THAT'S GO TO
ITEM NUMBER FOR SENATE BILL FIVE
TWENTY FOUR CURRENT VOTE IS
EIGHT TO TWO SURE VOTING- I.
WHEN I. EGGMAN GLAZER. CURRENT
VOTE IS- NINETY TWO WILL HOLDER
OFTEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS ITEM
NUMBER FIVE SENATE BILL SEVEN
EIGHT FIVE CENTER COVER YOUR-
CURRENT VOTE IS FIVE TO ONE.
WHEN. BETTER. EGGMAN GLAZER.
NIELLO OUR CUEVAS. MERCK VOTE
REMAINS FIVE TWO ONE WILL HOLD
THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS
AND THE LAST ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER
. TEN SENATE BILL EIGHT TWO ZERO
CURRENT VOTE IS SIX ZERO SURE
VOTING- BY. WHEN I WHEN I BAKER
DODD AYE DODD AYE EGGMAN LASER
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS WHAT. KERN VOTE
EIGHT ZERO. HOLDER OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. I DON'T NUMBER
TWO. CENTER ATKINS FLOOR'S YOURS
SENATE BILL. FOUR FOUR SEVEN.
AND CHAIRMAN PLEASE FORGIVE ME
FOR COMING IN THE BACK DOOR I
WAS TRYING TO GET HERE QUICKLY I
SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT- I
THANK YOU- CHAIRMAN AND
COLLEAGUES I AM I HERE AND
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT SB FOUR FOUR SEVEN. THIS
BILL WOULD LIFT THE TRAVEL BAN
AND CREATE IN ITS PLACE THE
BRIDGE PROJECT WHICH WOULD BE
USED TO PROMOTE NONPARTISAN
MARKETING AND OTHER STATES THAT
WOULD EMPHASIZE THE VALUE OF
INCLUSION AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE
LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY. THE TRAVEL
BAN AB EIGHTEEN EIGHTY SEVEN
FROM TWENTY SIXTEEN WAS
CERTAINLY WELL MEANING I KNOW
THAT I SURELY MEANT WELL WHEN I
VOTED FOR IT TWICE IN THE
ASSEMBLY BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED
SIGNIFICANTLY AND I BELIEVE A
DIFFERENT APPROACH IS WARRANTED.
IT'S IMPORTANT WE ACKNOWLEDGE
THE MEANINGFUL IMPACT THE BAND
HAS HAD PARTICULARLY IN THE
EARLY DAYS OF ITS
IMPLEMENTATION. AB EIGHTEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN HELPED RAISE
AWARENESS REGARDING LGBTQ
DISCRIMINATION IT EVEN GAVE
STATES LIKE NORTH CAROLINA AND
GEORGIA SOME PAUSE ABOUT THEIR
DISCRIMINATORY LAWS.
UNFORTUNATELY SINCE THE TRAVEL
BANS PASSAGE STATES HAVE
CONTINUED TO ENACT
DISCRIMINATORY LAWS. AND THE
LIST OF BANNED STATES HAS GROWN
TO TWENTY THREE. IN MANY
INSTANCES THE TRAVEL BAN HAS
INADVERTENTLY CAUSE CALIFORNIA
TO ISOLATE OUR OWN SERVICES. AND
CITIZENS IN A TIME WHEN WE'RE
LEADING THE NATION IN ENSURING
INCLUSIVITY AND FREEDOMS.
RESEARCHERS MANY OF WHOM ARE
SEEKING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE
DISCRIMINATION AND STATE SUBJECT
TO THE TRAVEL BAN. ARE UNABLE TO
TRAVEL TO STATES ON THE BANNED
LIST WITH STATE FUNDS TO
CONTINUE THEIR IMPORTANT
RESEARCH. SEVERAL STATE
UNIVERSITY ATHLETIC PROGRAMS
HAVE HAD TO ADJUST TO AB
EIGHTEEN EIGHTY SEVEN SECURING
PRIVATE FUNDS FOR OUT OF STATE
TRAVEL. BANNING TRAVEL TO THE
STATES COULD JEOPARDIZE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR
INTERCOLLEGIATE ATHLETES THE
COMPETING GAMES THAT DETERMINE
POSTSEASON ELIGIBILITY. AND THEN
THERE'S THE IMPACT ON
CALIFORNIA'S EFFORTS TO BE A
BEACON OF REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM
AND HELP THOSE IN OTHER STATES
OBTAIN CARE. LAST YEAR WITH
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS FACING
UNPRECEDENTED THREATS IN THE
ROLL BACK OF ROE VERSUS WADE WE
HAD TO EXPLORE AND TAKE SWIFT
ACTION TO ENSURE THAT
CALIFORNIANS AND ALL WHO NEED TO
COME HERE. COULD CONTINUE TO GET
THE CRITICAL CARE THAT THEY
NEED. ONE THING WE DISCOVERED
WAS THAT WHILE WE COULD PAY FOR
PEOPLE'S PLANE TICKETS TO
CALIFORNIA WE COULDN'T PAY FOR
THEIR TICKETS TO GO HOME BECAUSE
OF THE TRAVEL BAN. SB FOUR FORTY
SEVEN RETHINKS OUR APPROACH IT
WOULD LIFT THE CURRENT TRAVEL
BAN AND PUT IN ITS PLACE THE
BRIDGE PROJECT. THE BRIDGE
PROJECT WOULD BE A NEW PROGRAM
WITHIN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF
BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT OR GO BILLS. TO
ENCOURAGE ACCEPTANCE OF THE
LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY THE INTENT
OF THE BRIDGE PROJECT CAMPAIGN
IS TO TARGET AUDIENCES IN STATES
THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED
DISCRIMINATORY LAWS WITH
COMPELLING MESSAGING REGARDING
ANTI DISCRIMINATION. ISSUES THAT
WE KNOW THE LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY
ARE FACING IN REAL TIME. ONE
THING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
TO NOTE THE BILL PROHIBITS
BRIDGE PROJECT MARKETING
CAMPAIGNS FOR PROMOTING A
POLITICAL PURPOSE. OR FEATURING
ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL OR
CANDIDATE FOR ELECTED OFFICE. IT
WOULD FOCUS ON ISSUES NOT
POLITICS OR POLITICIANS. THIS IS
NOT ABOUT GAINING A POLITICAL
EDGE ARE PROMOTING A POLITICAL
PURPOSE IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE. AND
HELPING US CONNECT WITH ONE
ANOTHER DESPITE OUR DIFFERENCES.
I'VE HAD SEVERAL POSITIVE
CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER
LEGISLATORS AND ADVOCATES WHO
ACTUALLY SUPPORTED AB EIGHTEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN WHO AGREE. IT MIGHT
BE TIME TO LIFT THE BAN AND
REPLACE IT WITH A DIFFERENT
APPROACH. THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE
ON GOING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS. AS
THE BILL MOVES THROUGH THE
PROCESS. AND AGAIN WE CALL THIS
BRIDGE PROJECT WE CALL IT THAT
BECAUSE WE NEED TO BUILD BRIDGES
WITH GOOD PEOPLE IN OTHER
STATES. AND WE NEED TO HELP
BUILD BUILD BRIDGES THAT REACH
ALL THOSE IN THE LGBTQ PLUS
COMMUNITY AND OTHER STATES. WHO
ARE LOOKING FOR HOPE. AND A PATH
THAT THEY CAN FOLLOW INCIDENTS
SAFELY AND IN I REAL EQUALITY.
SO S. BEFORE FORTY SEVEN IS A
POSITIVE APPROACH. AND A
POSITIVE TOOL THAT I THINK WE
NEED. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU
SENATOR. ARE THERE ANY LEAD
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF THIS
MEASURE YES MISTER CHAIRMAN IF I
MIGHT I HAVE- JOHN PEREZ UC
REGENT SPEAKER MARRIAGES OF
COURSE OF THE ASSEMBLY AND CRAIG
PULSIPHER WHO IS A LEGISLATIVE
DIRECTOR FOR EQUALITY CALIFORNIA
. SPEAKER VIRUS WHICH PROCEED.
THANK YOU GENERAL. CHAIRMAN
COMMITTEE IT IS GREAT TO BE BACK
HERE WITH YOU. IT'S NICE TO BE
IN THE SENATE- SUPPORTING SUCH A
WONDERFUL. PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
IS A REGION OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA WE RESPECT THE GOALS
BEHIND. AB EIGHTEEN EIGHTY SEVEN
AND THE INITIAL TRAVEL BAN. BUT
THINK THE TIME IS RIGHT TO
CHANGE COURSE. IN S. B. FOUR
FOUR SEVEN ADDRESSES EXACTLY THE
RIGHT ISSUES. THE TRAVEL BAN HAS
CREATED A RANGE OF CHALLENGES
FOR US UNIVERSITY PERSONNEL.
HAVE TO MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS
TO AVOID STUDENT FACULTY AND
STAFF TRAVELED TO TARGETED
STATES EVEN WITH THEIR
PROFESSIONAL OR ACADEMIC
PURSUITS NECESSITATE THAT
TRAVEL. THIS IS LED THE
BUREAUCRATIC SHELL GAMES WITH
EXTRANEOUS EFFORTS BEING MADE TO
ENSURE THAT EVEN THE MOST BASIC
COSTS ARE NOT COVERED BY STATE
FUNDS. UNIVERSITIES WHERE
CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THE
UNIVERSITY COULD PAY FOR
PROSPECTIVE FACULTY MEMBER TO BE
RECRUITED TO COME TO CALIFORNIA
AS WE TRIED TO BRING THEM INTO
OUR EMPLOY. YET WE CAN ONLY PAY
FOR HIM TO RETURN TO ADJACENT
STATES BECAUSE THE RECRUITS HOME
STATE WAS ON THE BANNED LIST. IN
TWENTY TWENTY ONE WHEN UCLA
QUALIFIED FOR THE SWEET SIXTEEN
BEING HELD IN MEMPHIS THAT YEAR.
UCLA'S MEN'S BASKETBALL
LEADERSHIP HAD TO LOCATE
NONSTATE FUNDS. ARE IN NOTED
THAT THEY WOULD NOT DENY ANY
STUDENT ATHLETE THE RIGHT TO
PARTICIPATE IN POSTSEASON PLAY.
BUT NOT EVERY ATHLETIC PROGRAMS
HAS THE ABILITY TO FIND THOSE
NON STATE RESOURCES SIMILARLY
NUMEROUS STUDENTS AND FACULTY AT
HAD LEARNING AND ADVANCEMENT
OPPORTUNITIES CURTAILED BY THE
BAN. AND NOT ALL FACULTY AND
STUDENTS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RAISE
OR ACCESS PRIVATE PRIVATE NON
STATE FUNDS. TO EFFECTUATE THE
TRAVEL THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR
THEIR ADVANCEMENT RESEARCH. S.
B. FOUR FOUR SEVEN WOULD ALLOW
OUR UNIVERSITY TO CONTINUE YOU
THEIR WORK. WHILE PROVIDING FOR
A WAY TO REACH INTO STATE TO
PASSED CRUEL ANTI LGBTQ LAWS
WITH A STRONG MESSAGE OF
INCLUSION AND SUPPORT. AND I
WOULD NOTE IS THE AUTHOR OF
LEGISLATION CREATING GOAL
BECAUSE BUT I THINK THE BRIDGE
PROJECT PROJECT REALLY DOES HAVE
A PROPER HOME WITHIN GOBIZ I
URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU
SIR. NEXT LEAD WITNESS IN
SUPPORT. HI GOOD AFTERNOON TURN
MEMBERS CRAIG PULSIPHER ON
BEHALF OF A QUALITY CALIFORNIA I
AM VERY PROUD TO BE HERE TODAY
IN SUPPORT OF SB FOUR FOUR
SEVEN- AS YOU ALL KNOW WE'RE
SEEING ATTACKS ON THE LGBTQ
COMMUNITY ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
ALIQUIP NEVER SEEN BEFORE. RIGHT
WING POLITICIANS AND EXTREMISTS
ARE DEMONIZING TRANS PEOPLE IN
PARTICULAR FOR POLITICAL GAIN
AND THREATENING EVEN THEIR VERY
RIGHT TO EXIST. IN TWENTY
SIXTEEN EQUALITY CALIFORNIA WAS
PROUD TO CO SPONSOR AB EIGHTEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN BY SOME MEMBER EVAN
LOW WHICH BAND NONESSENTIAL
STATE FUNDED TRAVEL TO STATES TO
DISCRIMINATE AGAINST LGBTQ
PEOPLE. CALIFORNIA'S TRAVEL BAN
SERVED AN IMPORTANT PURPOSE
SENDING A CLEAR MESSAGE THE
TAXPAYER DOLLARS WOULD NOT BE
USED TO FIND BIGOTRY AND HATRED.
BUT THE SAD REALITY IS THE ANTI
LGBTQ LEGISLATION IS CONTINUING
TO SPREAD ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AT
A PACE LIKE WE'VE NEVER SEEN.
ACCORDING TO THE ACLU MORE THAN
FOUR HUNDRED ANTI LGBTQ BILLS
HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED IN
LEGISLATURES THIS YEAR ALONE.
THE MAJORITY OF WHICH TARGET
TRANS PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR THE
RIGHT TO ACCESS LIFESAVING
MEDICAL CARE. IT'S TIME FOR A
SHIFT IN STRATEGY TO BE EVEN
MORE PROACTIVE AND VOCAL ABOUT
COMBATING ANTI LGBTQ HATE. IN
STATES WITH THESE BIGOTED AND
DISCRIMINATORY LAWS. WE
APPRECIATE HAVE A PRO TEM ATKINS
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD
WHICH WILL REPEAL THE STATE'S
TRAVEL BAN AND ESTABLISH A NEW
PROGRAM TO SPREAD INCLUSIVE
MESSAGING AND STATES WITH ANTI
LGBTQ LAWS. AT A TIME WHEN OUR
COMMUNITY IS QUITE LITERALLY
UNDER ATTACK BEING ON OFFENSE
AND PROACTIVELY COMBATING HATE
IS NOW MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER
NOW RESPECTFULLY OR TRY ABOUT.
THANK YOU SIR ARE THERE ANY.
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IN
THE HEARING ROOM. STEP FORWARD
NAME AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON
THE MEASURE PLEASE GOOD
AFTERNOON MR CARE SAID TENDER
MOLLY HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU SIR
ANY OTHER SUPPORT WITNESSES.
THOSE TURN DO ANY LEAD WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION ARE THERE ANY LEAD
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IN THE
HEARING ROOM. ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN HEARING
ROOM. SEEING NONE LET'S MOVE TO
THE TELECONFERENCE ORVIS
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT ANY INDIVIDUALS WAITING
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. TO SENATE BILL FOUR
FOUR SEVEN. WILL MOVE FORWARD
WITH THEM. THANK YOU FOR SHARE.
IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO SB FOUR FOUR SEVEN
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO AT THIS TIME ONE FILED BY
ZERO. GIVE ANOTHER REMINDER IF
YOU ARE SUPPORTER OPPOSITION TO
SB FOUR FOUR SEVEN. EIGHT EIGHT
ONE ZERO. AND NOBODY IS GOING UP
THE STRUCTURE THANK MODERATOR
LET'S BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK
TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE DAY HIS
COLLEAGUES ANY. QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU
HAVE A QUESTION I INNER CHILLER
I DO PLEASE PROCEED. THIS
PROCEED THANK YOU OF THANK YOU
AND PROGRAM FOR BRING THAT
FORWARD- CALIFORNIA IS ALWAYS
TRYING TO BE FIRST WE'RE ALWAYS
TRYING TO PROMOTE OUR EQUALITY.
OUR OPPORTUNITIES AND- TO BRING
PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA I THINK
THIS THIS BILL WILL REACH OUT-
ACROSS TO THE STATES AND SAY YOU
KNOW WE WILL WELCOME YOU WE WILL
BRING IN. THE BRIGHT MINDS
THEY'RE OUT THERE REGARDLESS OF
YOUR BACKGROUND OR BELIEFS AND I
THINK IT'S A CHIP A GREAT BILL
FREE QUALITY. AND I WILL
DEFINITELY- SUPPORTED AND- I
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR
BRINGING AFFORD. THANK YOU
SENATOR SAID WILD THANK YOU I
THANK YOU FOR THIS- I DO JUST
WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT OVER THE
COURSE OF SEVERAL WEEKS NOW NOT
ONLY. SLUSH YEARS. WE'VE NOT
ONLY SEEN THE ATTACK AGAINST THE
LGBTQ COMMUNITY BUT ALSO WOMEN'S
RIGHTS INCLUDING THIS PAST WEEK-
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE
PROACTIVE AS WAS MENTIONED- AND
KIND OF SEE WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO
TO KIND OF. HELP SUPPORT-
ACTIVISTS THAT ARE REALLY
ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO THE JOB
THAT WE IN CALIFORNIA KIND OF
ALMOST SOMETIMES FORGET ABOUT
GRADE OUT BECAUSE WE'RE VERY
PRIVILEGED HERE IN THE STATE. SO
I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR LEADERSHIP AND I'LL MOVE-
THE BILL- WHEN APPROPRIATE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SENATOR. THE
REDSKINS WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
AND THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT
AND WHILE OBVIOUSLY THIS TALKS
ABOUT THE L. G. B. T. Q. PLUS
COMMUNITY. THERE'S NO ROOM FOR
HATE ANYWHERE. AND I THINK WE
CAN DO A CAMPAIGN AYE I WILL BE
SPEAK MY AGE HERE BUT- THE KIND
OF. CAMPAIGN I ENVISION- THOSE
OF YOU WHO REMEMBER IT WAS A
COCA COLA COMMERCIAL BUT- I
STILL TO THIS DAY THINK OF I'D
LIKE TO TEACH THE WORLD TO SING.
AND LIVE IN PERFECT HARMONY I
MEAN THAT IS REALLY WHAT I'M
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE
REGARDLESS OF. WHERE YOU ARE ON
THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM OR YOUR
PERSONAL BELIEFS I THINK THERE
IS ROOM FOR ALL OF US TO CO
EXIST AND I THINK THIS IS A MORE
POSITIVE STEP. I APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU SIR THE BILL HAS BEEN
MOVED BY CENTRAL HUB THE MOTION
IS TO PASS TO THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. ROTH HI ROTH I
WENT. NEVADA GIL. OF ARTICLE AYE
ARCHULETA AYE ARCHULETA AYE
ASHBY. AYE ASHBY AYE BAKER. DODD
HI DODD AYE EGGMAN. LASER MEELO
. VILLANO SMALLWOOD CUEVAS.
BAHAN BOB I WILK. WILK NOW.
THIRTY SIX TO TWO WILL HOLD THE
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. TO
WHICH THE WILL. OKAY. WELL IT
SEEMS. WELL. THERE WILL COULD
YOU LIKE TO PRESENT YOUR BILL.
RIGHT. CENTER DOT IS THREE BILLS
BUT I GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY.
THE FOUR BY FOUR BY. THREE
OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE
SHORTER. YEAH HOPEFULLY THIS IS
A VERY SIMPLE BILL THEY ALSO THE
LATE GREAT DOG. WHY KASKI USED
TO SAY. ANYWAY THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. I PRESENT TO
YOU S. B. EIGHT TWENTY NINE
WHICH WILL TAKE A SMALL STEP IN
PROTECTING CONSUMERS FROM THE
MONOPOLY THAT CONGRESS
MISTAKENLY ALLOWED WHEN
APPROVING THE TICKETMASTER LIVE
NATION MERGER IN TWENTY TEN.
ARTISTS FROM TAYLOR SWIFT TO
DEPECHE MODE HAVE EXPRESSED
OUTRAGE AT THE TICKETMASTER LIVE
NATION BUSINESS MODEL THAT IS
OVER CHARGE FANS OR COMPLETELY
SLAMMED THE DOOR OF FINANCING
THEIR FAVORITE ARTISTS.
ACCORDING TO THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TICKETMASTER
LIVE NATION HAS AS MUCH AS 90%
THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT MARKET IN
ORDER TO HAVE ACCESS TO LIVE
NATION ENTERTAINMENT ROSTER THE
NEWS OUR FORCES SIGN EXCLUSIVITY
AGREEMENTS IN RETURN THOSE
VENUES RECEIVED A KICK BACK FROM
TECH- FROM TICKETMASTER.
OBVIOUSLY THESE COSTS ARE PASSED
ON TO FANS THROUGH
TICKETMASTER'S OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH
TICKET SERVICE FEES WE'RE CENTER
DIED WHEN YOU NEED THEM SB EIGHT
TWENTY NINE WILL PROHIBIT
EXCLUSIVITY CLAUSES IN CONTRACTS
BETWEEN A PRIMARY TICKET SELLER
IN AN ENTERTAINMENT VENUE IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SB EIGHT
TWENTY NINE IS BASED ON A
LEGISLATIVE PROPOSAL GOING
THROUGH THE NEW YORK STATE
LEGISLATURE. TICKETMASTER LIVE
NATION HAS ALREADY SIGNED A
STIPULATED AGREEMENT WITH THE
GOVERNMENT OF IRELAND IN THE
PRACTICE. TEDDY ROOSEVELT SAID.
QUOTE WERE TRUST BECOMES A
MONOPOLY THE STATE HAS AN
IMMEDIATE RIGHT TO INTERFERE IN
QUOTE. SB EIGHT TWENTY NINE IS A
MODEL- IT'S A MODEST REFORM THAT
WILL HOPEFULLY PROVIDE SOME
ECONOMIC RELIEF FOR OUR
CONSTITUENTS FROM MONOLITHIC
CORPORATE GREED AND WITH THAT.
SPECT AND I VOTE I DID HAVE SOME
PRIMARY WITNESSES BUT THEY ARE A
VICTIM OF COACHELLA THEY WERE
NOT ON THE FLIGHT THIS MORNING
SO. NO PRIMARY WITNESSES AT THIS
TIME. LET'S SAYS GIVE THERE ANY
WITNESSES IN THE HEARING ROOM IN
SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE. HI
BRIAN HAS SPORTS FANS COALITION-
STRONG SUPPORT OF HIS BILL.
THANK YOU SIR ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. LET'S TURN
TO ANY LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION IN THE LEAD WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE IN
THE HEARING ROOM. ANY WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE IN
THE HEARING ROOM. SEEING NONE
LET'S MOVE TO THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PROMPT ANY INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
MEASURE WILL TAKE THEM. YOUR
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO AT B.
EIGHT TWENTY NINE PLEASE PRESS
ONE AT THAT ZERO AT THIS TIME.
AND WE HAVE NO COMMENT PERFECT
THANK YOU MR MODERATOR. WHEN THE
MATTER BACK TO THE DIGEST OF MY
COLLEAGUES COLLEAGUES ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. SEEING
SEEING NONE. SIR WHAT WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE SURE- DIDN'T
TESTIFY- TODAY THERE IS SOME
OPPOSITION I THINK- DIDN'T
TESTIFY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD REALLY
GOOD DISCUSSIONS. AGAIN I'M NOT
LOOKING TO PUT ANYBODY OUT OF
BUSINESS I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A
LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. AND FOR
CONSUMERS TO GET THE BILL OUT
THE BEST PRICE POSSIBLE I WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM AND-
STREET IN THE AREA THAT THE
CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THAT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR. THANK YOU
SENATOR THE BILL'S BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR DODD. THE MOTION IS TO
PASS THE SENATE JUDICIARY PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ROTH HI ROTH I
WENT. WHEN I OVERLY GIL. OF
ARTICLE AYE ARCHULETA AYE
ARCHULETA AYE ASHBY ASHBY I
BAKER DODD. NOT AYE EGGMAN
GLAZER NERO HI NEIL I SMALLER
CUEVAS. WELL HAN. WELCOME HI
LEVINE. THE BILL HAS- EIGHT
VOTES WILL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. SENATOR DODD
WILL BE PRESENTING THREE BILLS
HE WILL BE PRESENTING FOR
SENATOR GONZALEZ ITEM NUMBER
THREE SENATE BILL FIVE ONE
SEVEN. AND WE WILL START WITH
THAT ONE FOR SURE WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT COULD I START WITH S. B.
SIX SIX SEVEN BECAUSE WE HAVE
WITNESSES THAT ARE HAVE TO
LEAVE. WE CAN START WITH
WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE ITEM NUMBER
EIGHT SENATE BILL SIX SIX SEVEN
BY SENATOR DODD HEALING ARTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR CARE
MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY
THANKING YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR
THEIR HARD WORK ON THE BILL AND
I'LL BE ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEES
RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS.
BEGINNING ON PAGE TWELVE OF THE
ANALYSIS SB SIX SIX SEVEN BUILT
UPON LEGISLATION I AUTHORED IN
TWENTY TWENTY THE REMOVED
PHYSICIAN SUPERVISION
REQUIREMENTS FOR CERTIFIED NURSE
MIDWIVES THAT C. N. MS. IN THE
STATUS PARAMETERS FOR
COLLABORATIVE CARE IN TRANSFER
FOR MODERATE IN HIGH RISK
PREGNANCIES. FITS IS PASSAGE
UNNECESSARY RESTRICTIONS HAVE
COME TO LIGHT THAT LIMIT THE
POTENTIAL FOR CERTIFIED NURSE
MIDWIVES TO CARE FOR PATIENTS.
AT THE FULL EXTENT OF THE
TRAINING AND EDUCATION. IN THE
FACE OF PERSISTENT MATERNITY
DESERT IT OBGYN SHORTAGES
STATEWIDE IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE
CONTINUE ADDRESS BARRIERS THAT
LIMIT ACCESS TO HIGHLY QUALIFIED
. HELLO CALLED COULD PROVIDERS-
THE BILL WOULD REDUCE THE
REDUNDANCIES IN EXISTING LAW AND
EXPAND UPON THE ABILITY OF
CERTIFIED NURSE MIDWIVES. ALL
TOGETHER THE CHANGES THAT ARE
MADE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE ACCESS TO
MATERNITY CARE IN MIDWIFERY
PARTICULARLY IN RURAL
COMMUNITIES IN AREAS WHERE CNN'S
MIGHT SEEK TO OPEN UP BIRTH
CENTERS. LASTLY I'D LIKE TO
HIGHLIGHT THAT THE BILL BEFORE
YOU TODAY REPRESENTS A
SIGNIFICANT WORK IN
COLLABORATION WITH THE
STAKEHOLDERS THAT BEGAN BEFORE
THE BILL WAS EVEN INTRODUCED AND
CONTINUE COMMITTED TO
CONTINUING. TO WORK THROUGH ALL
THE REMAINING ISSUES AND
CONCERNS AS THE BILL MOVES
FORWARD. I WITH ME TODAY TO
SPEAK- IF SUPPORTERS OF THE
MEASURE IS HOLLY SMITH POLICY
SHARE SHARE FOR THE CERTIFIED
NURSE MIDWIVES ASSOCIATION AND
DR JOE TOLD. WE STEP FORWARD.
SERAPHIN COMMITTEE THANK YOU FOR
HAVING ME TODAY MY NAME IS HOLLY
SMITH AND I'VE BEEN A NURSE
MIDWIFE FOR TWENTY THREE YEARS
AND I'VE BEEN DOING PUBLIC
HEALTH POLICY FOR THE LAST TEN
YEARS. AND I AM ALSO THE HEALTH
POLICY CHAIR FOR THE CALIFORNIA
NURSE MIDWIVES ASSOCIATION THANK
YOU ALSO TO SENATOR DODD FOR
CARRYING THIS BILL AND WORKING
TO FINISH UP WHAT WE STARTED. IN
TWENTY TWENTY WITH SB TWELVE
THIRTY SEVEN. SB TWELVE THIRTY
SEVEN WAS A LANDMARK BILL FOR
NURSE MIDWIVES IN CALIFORNIA THE
INTENT AS YOU KNOW WAS TO CREATE
INDEPENDENT PRACTICE FOR NURSE
MIDWIVES. BUT CNN'S COULD FILL
GEOGRAPHIC ACCESS GAPS IMPROVE
OUTCOMES FOR WORKING PEOPLE WHO
NEED IT MOST AND HELP TO CLOSE
THE RACIAL DISPARITY GAP FOR
MATERNAL MORTALITY AND MORBIDITY
IN CALIFORNIA. AND THANKS TO
THIS COMMITTEE AND THE
LEGISLATURE I'VE NEVER BEEN
PROUDER TO SAY THAT THE DECISION
TO ENACT SB TWELVE THIRTY SEVEN
IS WORKING. I FIELD REGULAR
CALLS FROM CNN'S WERE MAKING THE
MOST OUT OF THIS NEW LAW AN
OPENING PRACTICES ACROSS THE
STATE. RIGHT NOW IN OUR THIRTY
YEARS SINCE THE ENACTMENT OF
THAT LAW WE HAVE HAD AMPLE TIME
TO HEAR FROM OUR MEMBERS ABOUT
REMAINING BARRIERS SOME OF WHICH
PUT NEW BURDENS ON PATIENTS.
I'VE PERSONALLY HEARD FROM C. N.
M. IN FAR NORTHERN COUNTIES THE
NORTH FACE SACRAMENTO AREA
CENTRAL COAST. LA INLAND EMPIRE
AND ANTELOPE VALLEY. AND THE SAN
DIEGO AND OTHERS WHO ARE TRYING
TO UTILIZE THE NEW LAW THAT ARE
RUNNING INTO CHALLENGES. FOR
EXAMPLE SEE AN ARMS CAN ONLY
SEND SOMEONE OUT ON DISABILITY
DURING LIMITED TIMES IN THEIR
PREGNANCY. BUT THERE ARE CLEAR
EXAMPLES OF NORMAL EVENTS DURING
THE COURSE OF PREGNANCY THAT
REQUIRE SOME TIME OFF OF WORK.
WHEN CNN CANNOT CERTIFY
DISABILITY FOR SOMETHING WITHIN
THEIR SCOPE. THIS PUTS THE
BURDEN ON THE PATIENT TO FIND A
DOCTOR. EXPLAINED THE ISSUE
AGAIN TO SOMEONE NEW. PAY AN
ADDITIONAL COPART COPAY OR FIND
CHILD CARE. IN THE PROCESS AND
OF COURSE WASTE TIME. THIS
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND SB SIX
SIX SEVEN CORRECTS THIS. ANOTHER
EXAMPLE TO COLLABORATE ON THE
CARE OF A MODERATE RISK PATIENTS
MEETINGS A PATIENT OUTSIDE OF
HARD TO FIND LOW RISK SCOPE.
SYNONYMS AND PHYSICIANS HAVE TO
SIGN TWO AGREEMENTS. THIS WASN'T
REALLY INTENDED BY S. B. TWELVE
THIRTY SEVEN BUT IS HOW THE LAW
HAS HAS. HAS BORE OUT. THIS IS
CONFUSING TO SEE AN ARMS AND
DOCTORS ALIKE. THIS BILL KEEPS
ALL OF THE SAME SAFEGUARDS BUT
DOES SO THROUGH ONE SIGNED.
MUTUALLY AGREED UPON POLICY AND
PROTOCOL. CNN'S ALSO NEED THE
ABILITY PRESCRIBE PAIN
MEDICATIONS IN VERY LIMITED
INSTANCES CAN IN LIMITED
QUANTITIES. IMAGINE IF YOU ARE A
PERSON WHO HAS SEEN A NURSE
MIDWIFE YOUR ENTIRE COURSE OF
CARE. CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING IN
PAIN THE FIRST OR SECOND DAY
AFTER UNCOMPLICATED DELIVERY OF
THEIR THIRD CHILD. BUT NOW NEED
TO FIND A PHYSICIAN TO TREAT HER
PAIN OR INCUR THE COST AND TIME
OF DRAGGING YOURSELF IN YOUR NEW
BABY TO THE URGENT CARE. OR THE
EMERGENCY ROOM FOR SOMETHING
THAT EASILY COULD HAVE BEEN
SOLVED BY YOUR MIDWIFE. OTHER
STATES HAVE FIGURED THIS OUT AND
I BELIEVE CALIFORNIA CAN AS
WELL. FINALLY TO SEE PATIENTS
AND TO MAKE APPROPRIATE
TREATMENT AND CARE MANAGEMENT
DECISIONS CNN'S NEED THE ABILITY
TO PERFORM AND INTERPRET A SMALL
NUMBER OF LABORATORY TESTS THAT
ARE WITHIN OUR SCOPE. IN FACT SB
TWELVE THIRTY SEVEN DID ADDRESS
THIS TO SOME DEGREE. BUT AS A
LABORATORY CODING CALIFORNIA
STILL CAN'T STILL STANDS. YOU
ARE I COULD PICK UP A PREGNANCY
TEST AT CVS FOR EXAMPLE AND
INTERPRET THE RESULT. BUT A CNM
WHO OWNS A BIRTH CENTRE CANNOT
DO THAT IN THE COURSE OF PATIENT
CARE UNLESS THEY HAVE A
PHYSICIAN LAB DIRECTOR. NOR CAN
THEY DO SIMPLE MICROSCOPY TO
DIAGNOSE SOMETHING LIKE WHETHER
A PERSON'S BAG OF WATER HAS
BROKEN. WHICH OF COURSE IS A KEY
PART OF DIAGNOSING LABOR
MANAGING. THESE ARBITRARY. ARE
CONTRARY TO THE GOAL OF EXPANDED
ACCESS. REMOVING THESE BARRIERS
WORLD WILL ALLOW CNN'S TO
PRACTICE AS ENVISIONED BY THIS
COMMITTEE. AND THE LEGISLATURE
IN PASSING ARE LOCKED IN TWENTY
TWENTY. THANK YOU AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR IPHONE
. THANK YOU. NEXT PLEASE. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND SENATORS
I'M DOCTORS- TILTON. I'VE BEEN
PRACTICING OBGYN FOR THIRTY
YEARS INCLUDING MOST OF THAT
TIME AND DAVIS AND SUTTER IN
SACRAMENTO. I SUPPORT THE
PROVISIONS OF SB SIX SIXTY SEVEN
WHICH EXPAND CERTIFIED NURSE
MIDWIVES ABILITY TO PROVIDE
CARE. FOR COMMON GYNECOLOGIC
CONDITIONS WITHIN THEIR SCOPE
AND TRAINING. PRESCRIBE
MEDICATIONS ORDER LAB TESTS
AUTHORIZE MEDICAL DISABILITY AND
TO CONTINUE CARE FOR MODERATE
RISK WOMEN DURING LABOR WITHIN A
MODEL OF COLLABORATION WITH THE
PHYSICIAN. AS SB TWELVE THIRTY
SEVEN AND TWENTY TWENTY
INTENDED. THE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE
OCCURS WITH DISABILITY
CERTIFICATION WOMEN ARE IMPACTED
NEGATIVELY WHEN THEY NEED
TEMPORARY TIME OFF DURING THE
COURSE OF AN OTHERWISE NORMAL
PREGNANCY. LIKE SEVERE NAUSEA
AND VOMITING BUT THE NURSE
MIDWIFE CANNOT AUTHORIZE THEIR
DISABILITY THIS MEANS THAT IN
SOME CASES THE PATIENT HAS TO
HUNT FOR A POSITION WHILE IN THE
MIDST OF THEIR DISCOMFORT.
ATTENTIONAL DELAYING WHAT
THEY'RE MEETING THEIR NEEDS- BY
DAYS OR WEEKS THE PHYSICIAN IS
ALSO BURDENED TAKING TIME TO SEE
A PATIENT FOR WHAT IS AN UNDER
THEIR WIVES UNNECESSARY
APPOINTMENT. IN MY EXPERIENCE
LOW RISK WOMEN RECEIVED
EXCELLENT CARE FROM NURSES
MIDWIVES AND OPTIMAL OUTCOMES
ARE SUSTAINED WHEN MIDWIVES CARE
FOR WOMEN OF MODERATE RISK.
INVOLVING OBSTETRICIANS FOR HIGH
RISK CONSULTATION OR TRANSFER OF
CARE IS A SOUND MODEL OF CARE.
MIDWIVES ARE ABLE TO SPEND MORE
TIME YOUR CALL HERE IS COST
EFFECTIVE THIS IS PARTICULARLY
IMPORTANT IN THE LABOR PROCESS.
CARE FOR MIDWIVES REDUCES
MEDICAL COMPLICATIONS AND
CAESAREANS MIDWIVES ALSO PROVIDE
BETTER OUTCOMES AFTER BIRTH WERE
MORE FREQUENT VISITS IMPROVE
OUTCOMES FOR ISSUES SUCH AS
POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION
BREASTFEEDING DIFFICULTIES. AND
HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE. IN SUMMARY.
MIDWIVES CAN IMPROVE ACCESS AND
REDUCE MATERNAL MORBIDITY AND
MORTALITY WHICH IS ESPECIALLY
IMPACTFUL IN LOW RESOURCE
COMMUNITIES I URGE YOUR SUPPORT
FOR SB SIX SIXTY SEVEN. THIS
BILL SIMPLY CLEANS UP THE POLICY
IMPLICATIONS LEFT OVER FROM S.
B. TWELVE THIRTY SEVEN ENSURING
THAT WOMEN WHO SEEK. NURSE
MIDWIFERY CARE GET THE FULL
BENEFIT THE BENEFIT OF THEIR
CARE WITHOUT UNNECESSARY
ROADBLOCKS. YOUR SUPPORT WILL
HELP TO EXPAND ACCESS FOR
PREGNANCY AND GYNECOLOGIC CARE
FOR CALIFORNIA WOMEN. THANK YOU
AND I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR
IPHONE THANK YOU MA'AM ARE THERE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
OF THE MEASURE IN THE HEARING
ROOM PLEASE STEP FORWARD NAME
AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON THE
MEASURE. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
ERIN EVANS ON BEHALF OF NAY
ROUTE PRO CHOICE CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE I'VE
ALSO BEEN ASKED TO CONVEY
SUPPORT FROM AN ADDITIONAL CO
SPONSOR THAT'S BLACK WOMEN FOR
WELLNESS ACTION PROJECT. AS WELL
SUPPORT FROM FOR INDIVIDUAL
MIDWIVES FROM AROUND THE STATE
THANK YOU THANK YOU MA'AM ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IN
THE HEARING ROOM. SING THEN
LET'S TURN TO LEAD OPPOSITION
WITNESSES ARE THERE ANY LEAD
OPPOSITION WITNESSES PLEASE STEP
FORWARD. VACANCY SHARE RYAN
SPENCER PAP THE AMERICAN COLLEGE
OF OBGYN DISTRICT NINE AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION UNLESS
AMENDED TO UNDERDOGS. SB SIX SIX
SEVEN A FIRST LIKE TO THANK THE
AUTHOR AND THE SPONSORS TO
REACHING OUT TO US EARLY TO
DISCUSS THEIR INTENT OF POSSIBLE
PATHWAYS BOARD. THIS
RELATIONSHIP IS A CENTER POINT
OUT STEMS FROM OUR WORK IN
TWENTY TWENTY ON SB TWELVE
THIRTY SEVEN WE APPRECIATE THIS
RELATIONSHIP. OUR FOR SB SIX SIX
SEVEN WE WERE ABLE TO COME TO AN
AGREEMENT ON SOME KEY ELEMENTS.
BUT TO SIGNIFICANT ONE STILL
REMAINS. FIRST AND FOREMOST IS
THE ISSUE OF FURNISHING
SCHEDULED DRUGS. WHEN WE
NEGOTIATE TWELVE THIRTY SEVEN
ONE OF THE FIRST ISSUES TO COME
OFF THE TABLE WAS CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCE SUCH AS NARCOTICS.
THIS MADE SENSE AS NURSE
MIDWIVES WERE SEEKING
INDEPENDENCE TO PROVIDE LOW RISK
CARE AND SEEM TO BE VERY LITTLE
REASON TO UTILIZE HIGH RISK
HIGHLY ADDICTIVE DRUGS BE PART
OF THIS CARE. IN OTHER TIMES
WERE NOT LOW RISK NURSE MIDWIVES
MAY STILL FOR HIS SCHEDULE DRUGS
BUT MAY DO SO THROUGH MUTUALLY
AGREED UPON PROTOCOLS WITH THE
POSITION. SUCH PROTOCOLS WHICH
REQUIRE ALLOW CNN TO CONTINUE TO
CARE FOR THAT PATIENT OR IN
PLACES A SINCE WHAT CASES WHEN A
LOW RISK PREGNANCY OR BIRTH
TURNS A HIGH RISK. OR WHEN CARE
NECESSITY TREATMENT OUTSIDE
THEIR SCOPE IS WARRANTED
INCLUDING THE USE OF HIGH RISK
DRUGS. WE FOR THE RATIONALE.
THAT AFTER THE USE OF NON
SCHEDULED DRUGS ARE NON
PHARMACOLOGIC TREATMENTS HAVE
FAILED. NURSE MIDWIFE SHOULD BE
ABLE TO. PROVIDE SCHEDULED DRUGS
INCLUDING NARCOTICS AS A PERSON
IS STILL QUOTE LOW RISK. THIS
BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE
CONDITION OF THE PATIENT
RECEIVING A NARCOTICS. STILL
QUALIFIES AS LOW RISK. HOW WE
KNOW IT'S NOT SOMETHING MORE
SERIOUS. SERIOUS ENOUGH TO
WARRANT AN ICONIC SERIOUS ENOUGH
TO WARRANT PHYSICIAN
COLLABORATION. AS SB TWELVE
THREE SEVEN INTENDED. AT A TIME
WHEN PHYSICIANS ARE WORKING TO
REDUCE THE UTILIZATION OF
NARCOTICS IN OBSTETRIC CARE.
THIS PROVISION GOES INTO FULLY.
OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND SHOULD
NOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. IT ALSO
ATKINS. WITH HER. OFF NUR
MIDWIFE TO BECOME LAW. DIRECTORS
ACKNOWLEDGE IT COMMITTEES
AMENDMENTS AND WILL NOT SPENT
TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS MATTER.
HOWEVER SUPPORT TO NOTE ARE
CONCERNED THAT THESE CARVE OUTS.
DIMINISH THE VALUE OF A LAB
DIRECTORS VERY IMPORTANT PURPOSE
TO ENSURE HIGH QUALITY SYSTEM
APPROACH. TO TESTING THAT
PROVIDE ACCURATE. RELIABLE TEST
RESULTS. AGAIN WE DO APPRECIATE
THE DIALOGUE WITH THE AUTHOR OR
SPONSOR AND OPINIONS AS OUTCOME
THE FORTY THREE ARE DISCUSSION.
HOWEVER INTEL THIS IMPORTANT
ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED. A CROWD
MUST CONTINUE REMAIN OPPOSED
UNLESS A MINUTE THANK YOU SIR
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THE MEASURE IN THE
HEARING ROOM WISH TO SPEAK.
SEEING NONE LET'S TURN TO THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS MODERATOR
WOULD YOU PLEASE PROMPT ANY
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
EITHER IN SUPPORT. OR IN
OPPOSITION TO SENATE BILL SIX
SIX SEVEN IT WILL TAKE THEM. TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB SIX
FIFTY SEVEN PLEASE PRESS ONE AT
THE END ZERO AT THIS TIME. THIS
IN. AND WE DO HAVE ONE COMMENT
COMING THROUGH WITH ONE MOMENT
PLEASE WHILE WE PROVIDE THEM
WITH THEIR LINE NUMBER. I'LL
TAKE IT AFTER THIS. AND NOW
WE'LL HEAR FROM LINE FIFTY ONE.
HELLO MY NAME IS MARY CATHERINE
PHILLIPS AND I AM A CERTIFIED
NURSE MIDWIFE IN CALIFORNIA. I
SUPPORT SENATE BILL SIX SIX
SEVEN AS IT IS WRITTEN. AND I
WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS. MY
DISMOUNT THE COURT ORDERED THE
TWO ITEMS REGARDING. LABORATORY
TESTING AND THE PRESCRIPTION OF
NARCOTICS- THERE ARE THANK YOU
MA'AM MANY INSTANCES. MA'AM IF
YOU THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE. WE
HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT AT THIS
TIME THANK YOU MODERATOR I
BELIEVE WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE
ROOM WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE
IT'S NAME AFFILIATION AND
POSITION ON THE MEASURE SIR.
GEORGE TOYS OF THE CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED LOOKING
FORWARD TO CONTINUE
CONVERSATIONS THANK YOU SIR NOW
LET'S BRING THE MATTER BACK TO
MY COLLEAGUES ON THE DÍAS
KILLINGS ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS
I SEE SEVERAL HUB. AND CENTRE.
OF RUNNER GIL. SIR WELL THANK
YELL THANK YOU SENATOR DODD FOR
BRING THIS FOR IT- YOU KNOW I
JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT I
KNOW THAT. ESPECIALLY IN IN THE
HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY- YOU KNOW WE
ALWAYS KIND OF LOOK AT. HAVING
MORE SECURITY AND PROTECTIONS
AND SO FORTH- BUT IN PARTICULAR
MORE PEOPLE ARE OPTING OUT TO
KIND OF. DICTATE KIND OF HOW
THEY WANT TO DO THINGS- FOR
THEIR HEALTH AND THEIR SAFETY-
AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE SOME
OF THE SUPPORT ESPECIALLY FOR AS
WE TALK ABOUT- WOMEN KIND OF
MAKING THEIR OWN CHOICE NUMBER
ONE AND NUMBER TWO ALSO JUST THE
PROTECTIONS. AROUND BLACK WOMEN
ALSO- WE HAVE HIGHER MORTALITY
RATES- WITH THEM- GIVING BIRTH
AND MUCH MORE SO I REALLY DO
APPRECIATE THIS BILL- I KNOW
THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA MOST
LIKELY WORK WITH OPPOSITION TO
SEE IF YOU CAN CLEAN UP ANYTHING
ELSE THAT THAT IS NEEDED. BUT
OVERALL I DO SUPPORT THIS AND I
WILL BE VOTING YES THANK YOU.
THANK YOU CENTER CENTER OF
ARRIVAL GIL CENTER DOT THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD- I AM
A BIG FAN OF. A NURSE MIDWIVES
AND AM HAPPY TO SEE THIS AB IS
LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF ME MY
QUESTION IS UP A POINT OF
CLARIFICATION- AND THEY THINK
THIS IS FOR STAFF. THAT PAGE
ELEVEN SECOND PARAGRAPH- I JUST
WANT TO CONFIRM CALIFORNIA
ACADEMY OF FAMILY PHYSICIANS.
ARE THEY IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION. YOUR POSITION. WE
HAVE A- PROBLEM. THE SUPPORT
GROUPS AND THE OPPOSITION. HELLO
. AB SENATORS MAYBE YOU KNOW I
DON'T THINK THEY'RE IN THE ROOM
CALIFORNIA ACADEMY OF FAMILY
PHYSICIANS IN THE ROOM. ARE YOU
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION SERVER
FIRST YOUR NAME I'M BRAVE
STOCKARD IN BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
ACADEMY FAMOUS MUSICIANS WERE IN
SUPPORT OF AMENDED POSTURES
WHILE I THINK THE- COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS WAS. PERHAPS THERE IS
AIR THERE ON WHAT THE CONDITION
WAS HERE IN SUPPORT. WE ARE
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED. OKAY
SUPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED OKAY.
SUPPORT IF. SO THERE THEY'RE
OPPOSE UNLESS IT'S A MAN. YOU'RE
SUPPORT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OKAY
. FOR OF CLARIFICATIONS FUZZY
BUT OUR THANK YOU THANK YOU SO
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
SEEING NONE THAT ARE DONE WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE YES I
APPRECIATE THAT. THE COMMENTS-
JUST REAL REAL QUICKLY WE- YEAH
I JUST THINK IT PARTICULARLY IN
THE HOME SETTING- THAT- WOMEN
THAT ARE AT. THE HAVING BIRD
SHOULD HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF
CARE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE IN THE
HOSPITAL OFTENTIMES THERE'S JUST
NOT THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO USE
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD
ALSO. SAY THAT NURSE MIDWIVES
SHARE THE GOAL I'M NOT OVER
PRESCRIBING- IT ANY TYPE OF
DRUGS WITH THE REST OF THE
MEDICAL CARE- COMMITTEE.
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL THANK YOU
DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS BILL
WILL. MOVED BY SENATOR WILK
THANK YOU THE MOTION IS TO PASS
AS AMENDED THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ROTH AYE ROTH AYE WHEN I
WHEN I OVER THE GUILT. OF
ARTICLE III ARCHULETA HI
ARCHULETA I ASHLEY BECKER DODD
AYE DODD AYE EGGMAN. GLAZER
NERO. HI NERO I. SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS WELL HAN. BOB I WILK HI
OKAY. THE BILL HAS EIGHT VOTES
WILL. HOLD THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. TO WHICH BILL
WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE UP THEY
WERE GONNA TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER
TWO NOW JUST ITEM NUMBER THREE
PEOPLE THAT ARE WAITING- THERE
AS WELL YES ITEM NUMBER THREE
SAID NUMBER THREE CITIES-
GONZALEZ IS BILL YES SENATE BILL
FIVE ONE SEVEN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT PLEASE PROCEED. A
MIXTURE MEMBERS I'M HERE TODAY
TO PRESENT S. B. FIVE ONE SEVEN
WHICH WOULD BE AT THE
COORDINATION AND ECONOMIC
VITALITY OF THE STATE'S FREIGHT
SECTOR- HOW. THE PROTECTOR
DRIVES ONE THIRTY CALIFORNIA'S
ECONOMY GENERATING MILLIONS OF
DOBBS JOBS. YET MOVING TRILLIONS
OF DOLLARS TO THE STATE HOWEVER
THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE SUPPLY
CHAIN CRISIS BE CLEAR THAT THE
COMPLEX MULTI MODAL FREIGHT
SECTOR NEEDS BETTER. HIGH LEVEL
COORDINATING AND PLANNING. A
EXAMPLE LOSSES CALIFORNIA
OCCURRED BECAUSE A LACK OF
FREIGHT SECTOR ECONOMIC PLANNING
IS THAT WE ARE FORGOING FEDERAL
DOLLARS. WEST COAST PORTS HAD
RECEIVED ONLY 10% OF THE FEDERAL
DOLLARS FOR PORT INFRASTRUCTURE
IN RECENT YEARS. SB FIVE SEVENTY
MORE ADDRESSES GAP IN PLANNING
BY CREATING A GREAT IN SUPPLY
CHAIN. ACCORDING TO WITHIN THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF BUSINESS
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. OF
THIS CORDERO WILL FACILITATE THE
COORDINATION OF THE INDUSTRY BY
ENGAGING WITH RELEVANT
STAKEHOLDERS AND STATE AGENCIES
THE PLAN FOR THE ECONOMIC
COMPETITIVENESS OF THE FREIGHT
SECTOR. TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL I HAVE MARTHA MILLER
WITH THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
OF PORT AUTHORITIES EMITE JACOB
WITH THE PACIFIC MERCHANT
SHIPPING ASSOCIATION. THIS BILL
. HI THERE MY NAME IS MARTHA
MILLER I'M THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CONFERENCE THIS
SEASON ARE PART OF THIRTIES
WHICH CONSISTS OF THE ELEVEN
COMMERCIAL SEAPORTS IN
CALIFORNIA HERE TODAY DUE TO OUR
STRONG SUPPORT OF M. SB FIVE ONE
SEVEN BY SENATOR GONZALEZ. AND
THE CALIFORNIA PARTS RESPONSIBLE
FOR HANDING 3038% OF ALL
CONTAINERIZED IMPORTS AND 20% OF
ALL EXPERTS IN THE U. S.
ADDITIONALLY OVER THREE POINT
ONE MILLION JOBS ARE SUPPORTED
BY THE TRADE THAT MOVES THROUGH
CALIFORNIA PORTS. WHAT WE FOUND
INCREASING CARGO DURING THE
PANDEMIC THESE NUMBERS ACTUALLY
SIGNIFIED 2% SHIPPING CARGO
COMING INTO AND LEAVING THE
STATE THE BENEFICIAL CARGO
OWNERS CHOOSING TO FAVOR CARGO
TO OTHER PORTS OF ENTRY. ON THE
EAST AND GULF COASTS DESPITE THE
CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF FREE TO
CALIFORNIA'S WORKFORCE AND
ECONOMY THE RECENT COVER INDUCED
A SUPPLY CHAIN CHALLENGES HAVE
SHOWN THAT CALIFORNIA'S FREE
SECTOR IS IN NEED. OF BETTER
PLANNING AND COORDINATION ACROSS
AGENCIES. IN RESPONSE TO THE
SUPPLY CHAIN CRISIS THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION. APPOINTING A PER
ENVOY TO MEET A SECTOR WAS SICK
AND- OF CHAIN MITIGATE
CONGESTION A REAL TIME WE SAW
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS
APPROACH AND WHILE GOBIZ AND
HOUSE TO HAVE BOTH TAKEN
LEADERSHIP ROLES IN FACILITATING
COORDINATION. THERE'S CURRENTLY
NO STATE ENTITY OFFICE OR
POSITION WITH THE AUTHORITY AND
CAPACITY TO COORDINATE ACROSS
ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES- CAPA
ALONG WITH OTHER KEY
STAKEHOLDERS IN THE GOODS
MOVEMENT SECTOR INCLUDING PORTS
LABOR IMPORTERS ENVIRONMENTAL
ADVOCATES. AND EXPORTERS
PARTICIPATED IN THE CALIFORNIA
SUPPLY CHAIN SUCCESS SUMMIT IN
TWENTY TWENTY ONE. THE SUMMIT
WAS HOSTED BY GO BIZ CAL STAR-
FOOD IN AGONY. I ANY KEEP
FINDING FROM THE SUMMIT- WISE
THIS EXACT SOLUTION WAS TO
CREATE A SUPPLY CHAIN
COORDINATOR. AND WITHIN WITHIN
GO VISIT WITH IN STATE
GOVERNMENT. SB FIVE ONE SEVEN
DIRECTLY ADDRESSES THIS
RECOMMENDATION BY ESTABLISHING A
FOR A FREE IN SUPPLY CHAIN
COORDINATOR TO BE THE PRIMARY
RESOURCE. FOR THIS CRITICAL
INDUSTRY WITHIN STATE
GOVERNMENT. YOUR COMPETITIVENESS
AND SUSTAINABILITY ACROSS EVERY
SECTOR AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE
AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON
SOLUTIONS THAT'LL HELP GET GET
GOODS MOVING EFFICIENTLY. WE
BELIEVE ACCOUNTABILITY AND
SMARTER COORDINATION WITH AND
STATE LEADERSHIP IS CRITICAL.
THANK YOU LOOK AT AND HAPPY
ANSWER ANY QUESTION THANK YOU.
JACOB AFTER THAT TERM ROTH
MEMBERS MY CHECK WITH SPECIFIC.
SHIPPING ASSOCIATION REPRESENT
OCEAN CARRIERS AND MARINE
TERMINAL OPERATORS ARE PORTS AND
GIVEN OUR- VERY BRIEF- WE'VE-
REALLY BEEN BLESSED WITH A STATE
THAT HAS. IN FOCUS AND MADE THE
EFFORT TO ADDRESS OUR ISSUES.
BUT THOSE ISSUES ARE SILENT- SO
WE HAVE A GOOD MOVEMENT ACTION
PLAN OF SUSTAINABLE FREIGHT
ACTION PLAN WE HAVE A CALL FOR
FREE MOBILITY PLAN. WE HAVE A
GOOD MOVE EMISSION REDUCTION
PLAN BUT WE DON'T HAVE ONE
ENTITY IS AS MS MILLER DECIDED
TO BRING THOSE TOGETHER AND THAT
THAT FRAGILITY IN OUR- IN OUR
PLANNING AND COORDINATION
WORKING TOGETHER WAS REALLY
HIGHLIGHTED DURING THE RECENT.
SUPPLY CHAIN CRISIS IN PANDEMIC.
WE APPRECIATE IT- THE FOCUS ON
THIS BILL- AND- ASK YOUR ABOUT
THANK. THANK YOU SIR NOW LET'S
TURN TO ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF THE ROOM NAME
AFFILIATION POSITION ON THE
MEASURE PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON
MR COMMITTEE MEMBERS JONATHAN
CLAY ON THE HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE PORT OF SAN DIEGO IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU SIR NEXT PLEASE. ATHAR
MAIL ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU MA'AM NEXT PLEASE. HI
BERNICE MINISTRY GROUND WE HAVE
THE CALIFORNIA TRANSIT
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
HELLO TURN LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION ARE THERE ANY LEAD
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IN THE
HEARING ROOM WHO WISH TO TESTIFY
. SEEING NO MOVEMENT ANY OTHER
WITNESSES WHO WISH TO TESTIFY IN
A POSITION. SEEING NONE LET'S GO
TO THE TELECONFERENCE ORVIS
MODERATOR. G. PLEASE PROMPT ANY
WITNESSES WHO WISH TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
MEASURE AND WE WILL HEAR FROM
THEM. TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT
INTO FOUR OR OPPOSITION TO SB
FIVE ONE SEVEN PLEASE PRESS ONE
AT THE END ZERO AT THIS TIME.
AND WE'LL HEAR FROM LINE FIFTY
FIVE. MAKE FOR ME UP TO THE PORT
OF LA AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE. AND WE
HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT AT THIS
TIME THANK YOU MISS MATERS
SPRING MATTER BACK TO MY
COLLEAGUES ON THE DIS CAL USING
THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. NOW
MOVES THE BILL. MOVES BILL'S
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR ARCHULETA.
ANY QUESTIONS NO I JUST WANNA
SAY I REALLY DO APPRECIATE-
CENTER GONZALEZ FOR BRING THIS
FOR IT AND YOU FOR PRESENTING
THIS OF THANK YOU. I'M SURE
SENATOR GONZALEZ- WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK ABOUT- THEIR
DAD WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE. I
JUST IT WAS SUCH A CLOSE. YOU
GET A GOLD STAR. CALLS HE- THE
BEST OF THE ABILITY MEASURES
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR URSULA AND
THE MOTION IS. TO PASS THE
SENATE TRANSPORTATION PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ROTH. HI ROTH I
WHEN. I WHEN I OVER TO GIL. OF
ARTICLE AYE ARCHULETA AYE AYE
CHILLIN AYE ASHBY. BAKER DODD I
THOUGHT I EGGMAN LASER MELLOW.
YELLOW I SMALLWOOD CUEVAS BOB.
WILL HAVE AYE WILK HI WILL
GUIDE. BILL HAS A VIRTUAL HOLD
THE ROLE FOR ABSENT MEMBERS AND
NOW. THEY'RE DONE ITEM NUMBER.
SEVEN SENATE BILL TWO SEVEN ONE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
S. B. A TWO SEVENTY ONE WILL
POWER. EMPOWER A POWERED
WHEELCHAIR USERS BY OFFERING
THEM A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE TO
COSTLY AND TIME CONSUMING
REPAIRS BY ALLOWING CONSUMERS
AND INDEPENDENT REPAIR.
PROVIDERS ACCESS TO PARTS
DOCUMENTATION AND SOFTWARE
NECESSARY TO REPAIR THEIR OWN
DEVICES WHILE ALSO PROTECTING
MANUFACTURE TRADE SECRETS. WHAT
A POWERED WHEELCHAIR BREAKS DOWN
IT COULD BE A SERIOUS PROBLEM
THAT REQUIRES PROMPT REPAIR. THE
LIMITED NUMBER OF C. R. T.
THAT'S COMPLEX REHAB TECHNOLOGY
SERVICE PROVIDERS OF THE STATE
MEANS THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO USE
POWERED WHEELCHAIRS OFTEN HAVE
NO OTHER OPTION BUT TO RELY ON
THE MANUFACTURE FOR REPAIRS.
THIS CAN RESULT IN DELAYS OF
SEVERAL WEEKS OR EVEN MONTHS
BEFORE THE REPAIRS COULD BE
COMPLETED DURING THIS TIME
INDIVIDUALS MAY BE UNABLE TO
LEAVE THEIR HOMES. IT
PARTICIPATE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES
AND A TEN WORK OR SCHOOL. THIS
BILL ALSO INCLUDES IMPORTANT
SAFEGUARDS FOR CONSUMERS BY
CLEARLY DEFINING THE SCOPE OF
REPAIRS THE BEES CAN BE SAFELY
CARRIED OUT BY INDEPENDENT
REPAIR PROVIDERS FOR CHAIRS THE
FALL UNDER COMPLEX REHAB
TECHNOLOGY CLASSIFICATION. AND
PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO
CONSUMERS ABOUT THEIR WARRANTY
RIGHTS LASTLY TWO SEVENTY ONE
IMPROVE ACCESS TO THIS LIFE.
CHANGING TECHNOLOGY BY REMOVING
PRIOR AUTHORIZATION REQUIREMENTS
IN REOCCURRING PRESCRIPTIONS FOR
COMPLEX REHABILITATION
TECHNOLOGY. THESE BARRIERS CAN
DELAY CARE FOR PATIENTS WITH
SIGNIFICANT AND OFTEN LIFE LONG
DISABILITIES REMOVING THIS
REQUIREMENT WILL ALLOW
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES TO
OBTAIN THE CRITICAL EQUIPMENT
THEY NEEDED A REASONABLE TIME
FRAME. THIS LEGISLATION ALSO
ENSURES THAT ONLY SAFE PARTS ARE
MADE AVAILABLE TO INDEPENDENT
REPAIR SHOPS OR INDIVIDUALS
PROTECTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE
OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES
WE MUST PRIORITIZE THE NEEDS AND
RIGHTS OF VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES
IN SB TWO SEVENTY ONE. IS AN
IMPORTANT STEP TOWARDS ACHIEVING
THAT GOAL I HAVE WITH ME TODAY I
DID OKAY FOR US- THE PUBLIC
POLICY MANAGER AT CALIFORNIA
FOUNDATION FOR INDEPENDENT
LIVING CENTERS IN THE SACRAMENTO
DISABILITY RIGHTS ACTIVISTS IN
WHEELCHAIR USER- ALEXIS
GUERRERO- FROM PLASTER- TWO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
THANK YOU SIR YOU MAY PROCEED
THANK YOU- TO TURN CENTERS- MY
NAME IS DAN OPEN FOR US ON THE
PUBLIC POLICY MANAGER FOR THE
CALIFORNIA FOUNDATION FOR
INDEPENDENT LIVING CENTERS. AND
WE HEAR AND- SEIKO SPONSOR OF SB
EVERYONE GRANTING POWER
WHEELCHAIR USERS THE ABILITY TO
CONDUCT MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR
SERVICES ON THEIR OWN MOBILITY
DEVICES- THE DOSSIER POLICY WE
ARE STATEWIDE DISABILITY RIGHTS
ORGANIZATION THAT SERVICES THE
MEMBERSHIP- BODY FOREVER
CALIFORNIA'S TWENTY. FIVE
INDEPENDENT CENTERS AND WE
PROVIDE SERVICE AND SUPPORT FOR
THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUALS WITH
DISABILITIES. SO THEY CAN LIVE
COMFORTABLY IN THEIR OWN HOMES-
SB TWO SEVEN ONE REQUIRE
MANUFACTURERS OF POWER CHAIRS
PROVIDE ACCESS TO ITEMS
NECESSARY TO FACILITATE REPAIRS
ON EQUIPMENT. OWNED BY CONSUMER
AND THEREFORE MAKE IT EASIER FOR
CONSULTANCY MRES TO FILL THE
REPAIR NEEDS ON THEIR DEVICES.
AND I JUST WANNA ONE MORE THING
HERE ABOUT POWERED WHEELCHAIRS
ARE CRUCIAL TO THE WELL BEING
INDEPENDENCE OF MANY. OF OUR
MEMBERS WITH A WIDE VARIETY OF
MEDICAL CONDITIONS AND MOBILITY
IMPAIRMENTS. AND HOWEVER THE
SHORES OF LICENSE REPAIR SHOPS
THE STATE LONG WAIT TIMES CAN
CAUSE SERIOUS DIFFICULTIES FOR
INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED THEM FOR
THE DAILY ACTIVITIES. AND WITH
ME TODAY IS- MY FRIEND ALEXA
GROW. YES MA'AM PLEASE PROCEED.
I AM VERY. YEAH MY NAME IS
ALEXIS CARRERO I'VE BEEN-
LIFETIME THE OF TORTURE IT WOULD
. THIS THANK YOU. WHEN MY CHEER
BREAKS I TO WAIT A TO FOUR. WISH
THEY- NO. WITH ME I HAVE NO
INDEPENDENCE ALL.
WELL. SO THIS BILL WILL IMPROVE
THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR
TREES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
COMING TO TESTIFY. ARE THERE ANY
OTHER SUPPORT WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM WISH TO TESTIFY. NOW LET'S
MOVE TO LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. THE COLOR
CALIFORNIANS AGAINST WASTE IN
SUPPORT. OKAY ANY OTHER SUPPORT
WITNESSES. ANY OTHER OPPOSITE R.
THEIR OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN
THE HEARING ROOM YEAH- MISTER
CHAMBERS JOHN LINGER ON BEHALF
OF THE NATIONAL COALITION FOR
ASSISTIVE AND REHAB TECHNOLOGY
WERE THE MANUFACTURES AND
PROVIDERS OF COMPLEX REHAB
TECHNOLOGY FIRST WANTED TO THANK
THE SENATOR AND HIS STAFF FOR
ALL THE HARD WORK ON THE BILL-
THE AMENDMENTS HAVE GOTTEN US TO
A REALLY GOOD PLACE WE CURRENTLY
STILL HAVE AN OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED. POSITION BUT WE THINK
IT'S MOVING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION- THE REMOVAL OF PRIOR
AUTHORIZATIONS GOING TO GO A
LONG WAY AND- GETTING RID OF
SOME OF THESE DELAYS THAT WE'VE
BEEN SEEING- OBVIOUSLY WE WANT
TO PROVIDE. A TIMELY REPAIRS FOR
OUR FOR OUR PATIENTS AND SO-
WE'VE HAD A VERY GOOD DIALOGUE
THERE'S JUST A COUPLE- THE SMALL
CLEAN UP THINGS THAT I THINK WE
WANT TO HAVE A- A CONVERSATION
AROUND THE PENALTY PROVISIONS I
JUST ENSURING THAT- THAT
NOBODY'S GETTING- UNIVERSALLY
PENALIZED FOR- SOME OF THE
REQUIREMENTS IN THE BILL THAT
ARE- SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS
THAT ARE IN. COMPLEX REHAB
TECHNOLOGY CODE SECTION THAT ARE
A LITTLE BIT VAGUE AND SO WE
JUST NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT
MORE DIALOGUE ON THAT BUT WITH
ALL THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S
GOING ON- TO GET THIS FAR IN THE
FIRST COMMITTEES- MUCH
APPRECIATED AND SO. WE'RE REALLY
HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN GET TO A
SUPPORT POSITION HERE SHORTLY
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE
AUTHORED ANY OTHER OPPOSITION
WITNESSES IN A HEARING ROOM.
SIGNAL LET'S GO TO THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS MODERATOR
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN
OPPOSITION TO THE MEASURE WE
WILL HEAR FROM THEM. TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO XMP. TWO SEVEN ONE
THE FIRST ONE AND THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AND FIRST WE'LL HEAR
FROM LINE FIFTY SEVEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON SURE MEMBERS REBEKAH
MARKETS ON BEHALF OF CALPERS IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE.
LINE. FIFTY GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE- MY
NAME IS RUSSELL RAWLINGS I AM A
RESIDENT OF SACRAMENTO. AND A
LIFELONG PARISHIONER USER- I
HAVE. EXPERIENCED MANY
DIFFICULTIES. IN OBTAINING
REPAIRS FOR MY OWN CAR CHAIR IN
FACT- I THINK THAT IF THE
EXPERIENCE OF EMPLOYED PEOPLE
LIKE MYSELF. THAT ACCESS TO
REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE WILL
TRIMMING A FRACTION BECOMES MORE
OF A BURDEN. BECAUSE OF THE
CROWD PERSONAL COST- BORN BY THE
INDIVIDUAL. AND THE LACK OF
COMPREHENSIVE INSURANCE POLICIES
THAT COVER WILSHIRE REPAIRS. SO
I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF SB THREE
SEVEN ONE THAT WILL PROVIDE
GREATER ACCESS TO REPAIR AND
ALSO UTILITY TO MAINTAIN OUR
CHAIRS THROUGH ACCESS TO THE
NECESSARY- SOFTWARE. THAT
CONTROLS ON DEVICES THANK
VETERANS AND ACTIVE FOR LAST
YEAR'S THANK YOU SIR JUST A
REMINDER TO THOSE ON THE LINE
THIS IS THE TIME WORDS NAME.
AFFILIATION AND SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION. TO THE MEASURE
PLEASE NEXT PLEASE. NEXT WHERE
FROM LINE. SIXTY TWO. HI MORE
ONE ON ONE CONSUMER REPORT WELL
PUBLIC FUNDS WITH A FEW PEOPLE
ON ON AUTO SHOP WHAT. THANK YOU
NEXT PLEASE. TWENTY FIVE. HELLO
MY NAME IS ZACH LATIN I AM
SUBSTANTIATE ADVOCATE FOR THE
DELL MCINTOSH CENTER FOR THE
DISABLED IN ORANGE COUNTY
CALIFORNIA AND I WOULD LIKE TO
EXPRESS MY SUPPORT. THANK YOU
MA'AM NEXT PLEASE. WITH A LOOK
ON VALLEY INDEPENDENT LIVING
CENTER AND AGING SERVICES
COLLABORATIVE THE SANTA CLARA
COUNTY I AM CALLING IN SUPPORT
OF. A SINGLE TWO SEVEN ONE THANK
YOU NEXT PLEASE. WHY. TWENTY
ONE. GOOD AFTERNOON I'M KATE
LOUDEST EUROPE THE YOLO COUNTY
IN HOME SUPPORTIVE SERVICES
ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND A
WHEELCHAIR USER YOLO COUNTY IHS
US ADVISORY COMMITTEE SUPPORTS
THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU
NEXT PLEASE. SIXTY FOUR. THE
CURRENT MEMBERS BOB ACKERMAN
BEHALF FOR THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION MEDICAL PRODUCTS
SUPPLIERS WHICH ARE DURABLE
MEDICAL EQUIPMENT PROVIDERS.
APPRECIATE SENATOR DODD
AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL WORKING
WITH STAFF AND A MUCH BETTER
PLACE SO WE'RE CLOSE WAS OMITTED
NOW WORKING- TO GET SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE
. LINE. SIXTY THREE. WELL IF YOU
ALLEN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
YELLOW HEALTHY AGING CLIENTS OUR
ORGANIZATION AND BOARD HAS VOTED
TO SUPPORT. S. B. TWO SEVEN ONE
THANK YOU MA'AM NEXT PLEASE.
LINE. TEN WE WILL AMUL OF THE
GOOD WILL OF THE BUILDING THE
FEDERAL DESERT. AND WILL. IN
ORDER. YOU SEVEN ONE THANK YOU
NEXT PLEASE. LINE FORTY FOUR.
GILLIAN FOSTER- BEHALF OF EACH
YEAR HE AND LIVING AND ANGELES.
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE
. WHY TWENTY. BUT AFTER RAJ KUHN
WITHIN A WE OF QATAR FOR COUNTY
. FOR THANK YOU NAY PLEASE.
BETTER CARE WE HAVE NO FURTHER
COMMENT AT THIS TIME THANK YOU
MR MODERATOR SPRING THE MATTER
BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE
DAIS COLLEAGUES IN THE QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS. THEIR WORK. YEAH
YEAH I JUST HAVE A SO- I'M
SUPPORTING THE BILL. ON THE ON
THE PENALTIES THE DATE THEY SEEM
HIGH HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU GUYS
COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER. OF
THERE'S A ANOTHER BILL AND-
COLORADO THAT USE THAT NUMBER
THAT DID PASS- I. SPOKE BY STAFF
ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING AND
WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN
LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE I DO
AGREE WITH YOU OKAY GREAT. THANK
YOU AGAIN NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO
GO FOUR WEEKS WITHOUT A
WHEELCHAIR THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS SO
THANKS FOR DOING THE BILL. HE
OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS SAYING
THAT IS OUR MOTION ON THIS BILL.
SIR WHAT MOVES THE BILL. YOU
LIKE CLOTHES CENTER DOES BACK
LAST FOREVER. THE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO SENATE JUDICIARY PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ROCK AYE ROTH AYE
WHEN. OF OUR GUILT. OVER THE
BILL AYE ARCHULETA AYE ARCHULETA
AYE ASHBY. RECORD ALL BAKER AYE
DODD. DODD AYE EGGMAN. GLAZER
NERO HI NEIL SMALLER CUEVAS I
SMALLER CUEVAS I WILL HAN. WILK
ALL RIGHT WILL GUIDE BILL HAS A
VIRTUAL ROLE- OPEN FOR A MEMBER
. CENTER BAKER ITEM NUMBER NINE
SENATE BILL SO. HERE I SEE
MISTER MCGUIRE. WHERE MISTER
CHAIR. MISTER CHAIR CENTER
BACKER WAS THAT COULD CHALLENGE
THIS WEEK AS WELL AND I DID NOT
SEE HIM ON THE FLIGHT THIS
MORNING SO I DON'T KNOW HE- HE
CAME IN LAST NIGHT BUT- WELL
LET'S SEE WHAT'S GONNA WE'RE
GONNA TAKE- CENTER MCGUIRE THE
MAJORITY LEADER FIRST SO. SINCE
HE'S FIRST ON THE LIST SORRY SIR
BUT- CONDITION. THIS IS ITEM
NUMBER SIX SENATE BILL SIX ZERO
ONE SENATOR MCGUIRE PROFESSIONS
AND VOCATIONS. VOCATIONS
CONTRACTORS PLEASE BEGIN WHEN
READY SIR THANK YOU SO MUCH AND
MISTER CHAIR INTO MEMBERS- AND
I'LL BE BRIEF I WANT A PERSON
FOREMOST SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH
TO THE CHAIRED AN INCREDIBLE
STAFF. OF THE COMMITTEE FOR
THEIR WORK ON THIS ALSO WANT TO
SAY THANK YOU TO THE CONTRACTORS
STATE LICENSING BOARD UP FOR THE
PARTNERSHIP SB SIX ONE WILL
PROTECT HOMEOWNERS STRUGGLING TO
REBUILD THEIR HOMES AND LIVES
FROM FRAUDULENT CONTRACTORS IN
PARTICULAR AFTER SOME OF THE
WORST DISASTERS THAT THE STATE
HAS SEEN. IN GENERATIONS WE
CONTINUE TO SEE MEGA FIRES AND
EARTHQUAKES AND FLOODS AND
THOUSANDS OF CALIFORNIANS HAVE
LOST THEIR HOMES IN THESE
DEVASTATING DISASTERS IN WHAT WE
KNOW IS LOSING HOME IS ONE OF
THE WORST EXPERIENCES ONE CAN
FACE IN THEIR LIFE. BUT ENDING
UP WITH AN INEXPERIENCED
CONTRACTOR OR WORST A CONTRACTOR
WHO INTENTIONALLY TAKES A JOB
KNOWING THAT THEY CANNOT FINISH
IT HAS MADE THE REBUILDING
PROCESS THE HEALING PROCESS
INCREDIBLY DRAMATIC AND THAT'S
WHY WE ARE IN FRONT OF YOU
TODAY. SINCE TWO THOUSAND
EIGHTEEN THE STATE LICENSING
BOARD HAS RECEIVED AN AVERAGE OF
A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DISASTER
RELATED COMPLAINTS EACH YEAR. A
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FROM THE
PREVIOUS FOUR YEARS WHERE THEY
AVERAGED ABOUT TWENTY FOUR. THE
WE'VE GONE FROM TWENTY FOUR.
CENTS MOSTLY THE FIRES TWO
HUNDRED AND EIGHTY A YEAR. AND
MOST OF THESE COMPLAINTS ARE
FROM CONSUMERS AND DECLARED
DISASTER AREAS. WHO WERE HARMED
BY UNSCRUPULOUS CONTRACTORS. AT
DISASTER RECOVERY OFTEN TAKES
YEARS BUT UNDER CURRENT LAW THE
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR THIS
AND FALL. AND UNLAWFUL USE OF
THE LICENSE IS JUST ONE YEAR. SO
HERE'S WHAT THIS BILL WILL DO.
THINK SO ONE SB SIX A ONE WILL
INCREASE THE STATURE LIMITATIONS
FOR THE UNLAWFUL USE OF A
LICENSE FROM ONE YEAR. TO THREE
YEARS. AND I WANT TO BE VERY
CLEAR MISTER CHAIR. THE VAST
MAJORITY OF CONTRACTORS IN THE
STATE. THEY ARE ADVANCING WITH
REBUILDS THEY'RE DOING RIGHT BY
THEIR CUSTOMERS THE VAST
MAJORITY. BUT. AS SENATOR DODD
NAY I HAVE SEEN. FIRST THERE ARE
A- THAT DO NOT. A IN THERE ARE
SOME REAL CONTRACTORS WHO CHARGE
FIRE SURVIVORS FULL PRICE READ
BILLS. THAT INCLUDE SHODDY WORK
WINDOWS ON BACKGROUND. THAT ARE
BACKWARDS ROOFS THAT LEAK DOORS
THAT DON'T FIT OR THEY SIMPLY
WALK OFF THE JOB. INTERNET TO BE
HEARD FROM AGAIN. NOW I'D LIKE
TO ACKNOWLEDGE AN AMENDMENT THAT
WE'RE GONNA TAKE IN THE FUTURE
COMMITTEE MISTER CHAIR. WE'VE
HEARD FROM CONCERNED TEAM THE
CALIFORNIA SURE THE FEDERATION
AND THE PAYMENT PERFORMANCE BOND
PIECE OF THIS LEGISLATION. WE
WILL BE REMOVING THIS SECTION
FROM THE BILL AND CURRENTLY
WORKING WITH THE LICENSING
BOARD. TO ENSURE AN UNSCRUPULOUS
CONTRACTORS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
THROUGH POTENTIAL PENALTY
PROPOSAL I WILL HAVE MORE TO
REPORT HERE BUT WE ARE GOING TO
BE TAKING THAT PORTION. OF THE
BILL OUT I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE
HAVE THE CHIEF OF LEGISLATION
FOR THE CONTRACTORS STATE
LICENSING BOARD WITH US HERE
TODAY. AND I'M GRATEFUL MISTER
CHAIR FOR BEING IN THE PRESENT
WITH YOU TODAY. OKAY I SEE LEAD
WITNESS AT THE MICROPHONE PLEASE
PROCEED MA'AM. THANK YOU
HONORABLE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME IS A FINAL MARK
I'M THE CHIEF OF LEGISLATION
FROM THE CONTRACTORS STATE
LICENSE BOARD. THANK YOU FOR
SENATOR MCGUIRE FOR ALL THREE IN
THIS BILL. SB SIX ZERO AND WOULD
INCREASE THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS FOR MISDEMEANOR
VIOLATIONS PERTAINING TO
UNLAWFUL USE OF A LICENSE ISSUED
BY. A PROGRAM WITHIN THE
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS
FROM ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE OF
OCCURRENCE TO THREE YEARS FROM
THE DATE OF DISCOVERY.
CALIFORNIA CONTINUES TO
EXPERIENCE SEVERE FIRE OR SEVERE
WEATHER EVENTS THAT RESULT IN
DAMAGE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. YES
I'LL BE CONDUCTS OUTREACH AT
LOCAL ASSISTANCE CENTERS
OPERATED BY THE CALIFORNIA
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES. TO
EDUCATE HOMEOWNERS. ABOUT
CONTRACTOR LICENSING
REQUIREMENTS HOWEVER A CONSUMER
CANNOT PROTECT THEMSELVES BY
CHECKING THE LICENSE IF THE
UNLICENSED CONTRACTORS
UNLAWFULLY USING. A VALID
LICENSE OF ANOTHER CONTRACTOR.
CONSUMERS WHO ARE RECOVERING
FROM A DISASTER OFTEN DON'T FILE
A COMPLAINT IMMEDIATELY AS OUR
PRIORITIES ARE. ON OTHER
IMPORTANT MATTERS CONSEQUENTLY
CSL B. AS OFTEN PREVENTED FROM
PURSUING CRIMINAL ACTION. MAKING
THE ONLY OPTION ADMINISTRATIVE
DISCIPLINARY ACTION WHICH IS NOT
AS EFFECTIVE A DETERRENT AS- A
MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTION. THANKS
AGAIN THANK YOU AGAIN SENATOR
MCGUIRE- CSL B. AS IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT AS WELL. THANK YOU MA'AM
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. OF THE MEASURE IN THE
HEARING ROOM. SEEING NONE LET'S
TURN TO IN THE- WITNESSES LEAD
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION OR ANY
OTHER OPPOSITION WINS THE STEP
FORWARD. AFTERNOON MISTER
CHAIRMAN. AND MEMBERS FRANK
LIABILITY WITH APEX GROUP ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA SURELY
FEDERATION I HAD A LONG SPEECH
HERE. ABOUT WHAT WE WERE GOING
TO OPPOSE BUT WILL BE A FOR
MOVING OUR OPPOSITION WITH THOSE
PROMISED AMENDMENTS OF THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SIR ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES SIGNAL
LET'S TURN TO THE TELECONFERENCE
OF THIS MATTER IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PROMPT ANY INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY. EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
MEASURE SENATE BILL SIX ZERO ONE
WE WILL. TAKE THE TESTIMONY.
PHIL PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB SIX
ZERO ONE PLEASE PRESS ONE AND
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND WE
HAVE NO COMMENT. THANK YOU MR
MODERATOR BRING THE MATTER BACK
TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE DAIS AND
A LITTLE. THANK YOU MR- I KNOW
FIRST HAND THAT THIS PROBLEM
EXISTS BECAUSE I HAD A HOUSE
FIRE. WHAT SOMETIME AGO ALMOST
TWENTY YEARS AGO BUT- MY HOUSE
BURNED DOWN AND VERY SHORTLY
AFTER THAT I STARTED GETTING
PHONE CALLS FROM- INTERESTING
CHARACTERS. FRANKLY I FOUND THEM
FAIRLY EASY TO IDENTIFY- ALMOST
ON THE SURFACE OF IT BUT AND
THEN IF YOU'RE CHECKING OUT YOU
QUICKLY LEARN BUT- IT IS A REAL
ISSUE I WAS. NOT TO SUPPORT THIS
BECAUSE OF THE SECURITY
REQUIREMENT OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS A
FATAL PROBLEM- WHICH- YOU YOU
TOOK OUT SO WELL BE SUPPORTING
THE BILL. THANK YOU CENTERS
CENTERS LOW. YES THANK YOU A
CENTER FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD
YOU KNOW GOT THE CONTRACTOR AND
SUBCONTRACTOR AND OFTEN THE
SUBCONTRACTOR RUN OUT AND GET
BUSINESS AND YOU GET FIVE OR
SIX. EIGHT TEN JOBS GOING IN
BRING IN SUBCONTRACTORS AND THEY
FALL TO THE WAYSIDE- IN I THINK
THE ISSUES ALWAYS WE LOOK TO THE
CONTRACTOR BUT- HOW DO WE ENSURE
THAT THE SUBCONTRACTORS. ARE
WORKING MORE DILIGENTLY WHEN
WE'RE ADDRESSING THINKS IT WOULD
JUST MENTION- WHEN A DISASTER
HITS JERRY JUST ANYONE. OF
REMODELING THEIR HOME OR OR
DOING WHATEVER IT IS NOT ALWAYS
A CONTRACTORS SHOWS UP DAY AFTER
DAY IT'S A SUBCONTRACTOR. WOULD
YOU COMMENT. NO YOU'RE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT- I'M GONNA
COMMENT ON IT TO THE CHAIR IF
IT'S ALRIGHT WITH CENTER TO LET
AND THIRTY LOW AYE AYE I THINK
ANY OF THOSE RIGHT. ON THAT- ON
THE FACE IF YOU HAVE A
DEVASTATING EVENT IN ITS ONE
HOME YOU'RE ABLE TO WEED OUT
THOSE POTENTIAL BAD ACTORS. THE
CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE IN ALL
TALK ABOUT THE TUBBS FIRE WE SAW
ABOUT SIX THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED
HOMES BURNED. IS THAT YOU HAVE
CONTRACTORS FLOODING IN FROM
ACROSS THE STATE IN THE WEST
MANY AREN'T QUALIFIED INCLUDING
SUBS. WHO COME TO A JOB. IN ARE
IN IT FOR THE MONEY- AND NOT FOR
THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WORK FOR.
SO I IT I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER
TO THE STATE LICENSING BOARD IF
THEY'D LIKE TO BETTER TALK.
SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO SOBS
BUT UP FOR US IT'S THE
CONTRACTOR WHO IS ON THE BOOK OF
BUSINESS. AND SIGNS THE CONTRACT
WITH THE HOMEOWNER I WHICH IS
WHY WE'RE GOING AFTER THAT
INDIVIDUAL COMPANY WHO IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OVERALL
REBUILD THEIR ALTERNATELY THE
RESPONSIBLE PARTY TO FOLLOW
THROUGH WITH A CONTRACTUAL
OBLIGATION. AND THAT'S WHY
YOU'RE SEEING THAT- FROM A ONE
YEAR TO A THREE YEAR AND I.
THROUGH THE CHAIR WOULD. WELCOME
CENTER DIED BECAUSE I KNOW THIS
IS AN ISSUE THAT WE WORKED ON
CLOSELY I THINK THAT'S BEEN OUR
BIGGEST ISSUE IT SPECIALLY IN
THE TUBBS. HAS BEEN THOSE
INDIVIDUAL GENERAL CONTRACTORS
ARE RESPONSIBLE. FOR GARNERING
THOSE OTHER SUCH PLUMBERS
ELECTRICIANS DRY WALLER'S
ECCENTRIC. THANK YOU CENTER LET
ME JUST MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR SO.
THE THREE YEAR THE MOVE FROM ONE
YEAR TO THREE YEARS ON A STATUE
LIMITATIONS IS MORE THAN JUST
SOMEBODY USING A FAKE LICENSE.
OR NOT HAVING A LICENSE THIS
MOVE WILL DEAL WITH ANY SORT OF
CUSTOMER. CORRECT POINT HAVING
TO DO WITH THE CONTRACTORS WORK
PERFORMANCE OR LACK THERE OF.
REFORMS ARE LACK THERE OF THAT'S
IN PARTICULAR WHAT THIS BILL IS
FOCUSED SO IF YOU HAVE SHODDY
CONTRACT EXCUSE ME SHODDY WORK
DONE BY A CONTRACTOR. IF YOU
HAVE A CONTRACTOR THIS WORKED
OFF THE JOB IF YOU HAVE A
CONTRACTORS IS NOT FOLLOW
THROUGH WITH THE FIGHT THE
OBLIGATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE
EMBEDDED CONTRACT. SIGNED BY
THAT GENERAL IN THE HOMEOWNER
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IT'S ALL
ENCOMPASSING AND YOU HAVE THREE
YEARS TO FILE YOUR COMPLAINT
HAVE IT TAKEN CARE OF YES SIR IN
THE LEGAL. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
RIGHT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND
ESPECIALLY AFTER TIMES OF
DISASTER THAT TWELVE MONTHS.
SIMPLY FLIES BY RIGHT. AND WITH
THE HOMEOWNER REBUILDING THEIR
LIFE. THEY DON'T HAVE TIME. IN
THIS THREE YEARS- ALLOWS THAT
HOMEOWNER TO BE ABLE TO GO
AFTER. THE WORST OF THE WORST I
WOULD BE VERY CLEAR MISTER
CHAIR. THE VAST MAJORITY OF
CONTRACTORS. I WOULD NOT BE
CAUGHT UP WITHIN THIS
ACCOUNTABILITY NET IN THE BILL
IT WOULD BE THOSE WORSE THE
WORSE BUT- YOU HAVE HIT THE NAIL
ON THE HEAD MISTRESS CERTAINLY
AS AMENDED I'M SUPPORTING THE-
OR AS YOU PROPOSED TO AMENDED I.
GUESS ARE SUPPORTING THE BILL
US. FEDERAL ROAD. OVER AGO. THE
MCGUIRE WERE TO THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FOR- AS A
FRESHMAN CENTER MYSELF- YOUR
YOUR REPUTATION- HAS PERMEATED
MY DISTRICT- YOU'VE BEEN A
STRONG ADVOCATE NOT ONLY FOR
RURAL COMMUNITIES. BUT FOR ALL
CONSUMERS- IN WILD FIRE NATURAL
DISASTERS. I WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION- I
CURRENTLY HAVE ELEVEN OF MY
THIRTEEN COUNTIES THAT ARE
RECOVERING FROM NATURAL
DISASTERS- AND OVER AND OVER
AGAIN I HEAR THAT FEAR- FROM
SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE-
CONSUMERS ABOUT- PREDATORY. OF
CONTRACTORS I PARTICULARLY THE
MOUNTAIN COMMUNITIES WHERE IT IS
VERY LIMITED ACCESS TO HIGH
QUALITY CONTRACTORS. SO I THINK
THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION- IS
ALL IS DO YOU- AND I THINK THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE VERY-
SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT A LOT OF MY
CONSTITUENTS ARE DEALING WITH SO
THANK YOU FOR CONTINUE TO BE
THAT VOICE TO THE RURAL
COMMUNITIES. CENTER GRATEFUL I'M
I'M GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO WORK
WITH YOU AND- YOUR TENACIOUS- IN
THE PURSUIT OF HOLDING FOLKS
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE WHO ARE
HARM YOUR CONSTITUENTS. AND I'M
GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I LOOK
FOR TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS.
THANK YOU SENATOR SINGH NO OTHER
HANDS IN THE AIR. SENATE MCGUIRE
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE WITH
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME WILL
KEEP IN THE LOOP CEREMONIES I'VE
COME IN THE MEN'S THANK MISTER
THANK YOU WE HAVE A MOTION- THE
BILL. OCALAN REMOVES THE BILL
AND THE MOTION IS TO PRESS TO
SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. ROTH HI ROTH I WENT.
WHEN I OVER TO GO. OVER AND KILL
AYE ARCHULETA AYE ARCHULETA AYE
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EGGMAN AYE GLAZER. HILO HI NEIL
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WILL HOLDER OPEN FRACTION
MEMBERS. CENTER BRECHER FINAL
ITEM ITEM NUMBER NINE SENATE
BILL SEVEN EIGHT FOUR HEALTH.
CARE DISTRICTS EMPLOYMENT.
YOU'RE GOING TO BRING US ACROSS
THE FINISH LINE SEN. ALL RIGHT
TO GET AFTERNOON OF YOUR
PRESENTS SB SEVEN EIGHTY FOUR.
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DISTRICT
HOSPITAL SERVICEMEN CALPERS MOST
DIVERSE. AND UNDERSERVED
POPULATIONS ARE THE MOST LOCAL
FORM A PUBLIC HOSPITAL. BUT
DESPITE BEING THE STORE CLOSEST
SOURCE OF HEALTH CARE FOR MANY
FAMILIES AND SENIORS. THIS
ACOSTA IS ARE THE ONLY PUBLIC
HOSPITALS NOT ALLOWED TO
DIRECTLY EMPLOY PHYSICIANS. THIS
HURTS OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE
SERVICES TO THE LARGELY
UNDERSERVED PATIENTS. I JUST
HOUSES ARE THE RURAL AND
STRUGGLE RECRUIT PHYSICIANS OR
IN URBAN AREAS WHERE HIGH COST
OF LIVING MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO
RECRUIT AND RETAIN. PHYSICIANS
TO PROVIDES A WAY TO COMPETE IN
OR WITH LARGER LABOR MARKETS ARE
FOR POSITIONS BENEFITS THAT MAKE
WORKING AT PUBLIC HOSPITALS MORE
ATTRACTIVE. LIVE PHYSICIANS TO
DIRECTOR AS PER ATTRACTIVE TO
DOCTORS COMING OUT OF RESIDENCY
OR WHO ARE RELOCATING FROM OTHER
STATES WERE DIRECT EMPLOYMENT
POSITIONS IS MORE COMMON AND
PREFERRED TO RECEIVE A SET
SALARY BENEFITS AND HOURS WHILE
STILL HAVING THEIR CLINICAL
PTOLEMY'S PHYSICIANS RESPECTED.
ABSENT THIS CHANGE DOES YOUR
HOSTELS MUSCADET TO RELY SOLELY
ON CONTRACTING FISHING GROUPS
WERE INDIVIDUAL DOCTORS MAKING
INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO ENSURE
THEY CAN PROVIDE ESSENTIAL CARE
TO THOSE WHO NEED IT MOST WITH
ME TESTIFIED TODAY AND SUPPORTS
YOUR BRIDGE. WITH ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA HEALTHCARE DISTRICTS.
AND DOCTORS REYES MAHLER-
COMMUTER HOT HEALTH ASSOCIATE
CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER THANK YOU.
YES MA'AM PLEASE PROCEED. THANK
YOU ARE HERE ROTH AND MEMBERS
THEIR BRIDGE ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
HEALTHCARE DISTRICT HERE IS
PROUD SPONSORS OF SB SEVEN
EIGHTY FOUR WHEN I THINK THE
SENATOR FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON
THIS. I WILL DEFER MOST OF MY
TIME TO DOCTOR LAURA BUT WANT TO
TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF QUICK
POINTS. THERE ARE THIRTY THREE
DISTRICT HOSPITALS IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA SEVENTEEN OF THEM
BY WAY OF THE CRITICAL ACCESS
DESIGNATION ALREADY ENJOYED THE
ABILITY TO DIRECTLY EMPLOY
PHYSICIANS. THIS BILL AIMS TO
BRING PARITY TO THE SIXTEEN
REMAINING DISTRICT HOSPITALS
THEY DO NOT ENJOY THE ABILITY
DIRECTLY IN PLACE DECISIONS
UNLIKE THEIR OTHER PUBLIC
COUNTERPARTS. AS THE SENATOR
MENTIONED YOU SEE AN COUNTY
HOSPITALS HAVE LONG ENJOYED THE
ABILITY TO DIRECTLY IN PLACE
DECISIONS AND FOR THE PAST SEVEN
YEARS THE CRITICAL ACCESS
HOSPITALS. THE TWENTY IN THE
STATE AND THE. SEVENTEEN
DISTRICT HOSPITALS HAVE SUCCESS.
PRIOR A PER TO. THAT DIRECT
EMPLOYMENT OF PHYSICIAN. ALLOWS
DISTRICT. TO RECRUIT INVESTMENT
PHYSICIANS TO THEIR AREAS WHERE
THEY HAVE CONTINUED
DIFFICULTIES. DISTRICT HOSPITAL
SERVICE LARGE PORTIONS OF MEDIC
HOW AND MEDICARE PATIENTS AS
OPPOSED TO THEIR COMMERCIAL
COUNTERPARTS THIS MAKES THEM
LESS ATTRACTIVE TO CONTRACTING
WITH PHYSICIAN GROUPS. AND SO
BEING ABLE TO EMPLOY PHYSICIANS
DIRECTLY ALLOWS THEM TO OFFER
THAT SALARIES AND BENEFITS HOURS
THAT MAKE THEM A MORE ATTRACTIVE
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY. FOR
THOSE COMING OUT OF RESIDENCY.
AND FROM OUT OF STATE. A ONE
POINT THAT I'D MENTION IS THAT
THE BILL AIMS TO PROTECT AGAINST
CLINICAL IT PROTECTS CLINICAL
JUDGMENT AND ENSURE THAT DOCTORS
MAKE CLINICALLY APPROPRIATE
DECISIONS- AND TO PROTECT THE
CORPORATE IT TO PROTECT AGAINST
CORPORATE INTERESTS AND
INFLUENCE. I WITHOUT I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR AYE VOTE
AND THINK THAT'S ANOTHER FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU DOCTOR.
YOUR UP. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN OF
COMMITTEE YOU FOR THE- TO SPEAK
TODAY AND OF FIVE. SENATE BILL
SEVENTY FOUR ARE MANY MYSTERIES
MILLER- I'M THE ASSOCIATE CHIEF
MEDICAL OFFICER FROM CAMINO
HEALTH BECAUSE FUNDS FOR THE
BILL. I AM IN TELEMEDICINE. I
SPROUT SPECIALIZED IN HOSPITAL
MEDICINE I'VE BEEN PRACTICE FOR
TWO DECADES OF BOOK BOTH AN
INDEPENDENT GROUP. AND A LARGE
MEDICAL GROUP- FOR TWENTY PLUS
YEARS. I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU
ABOUT PUBLIC DISTRICT HOSPITALS
THE FOCUS WHAT ON WHAT IS BEST
FOR OUR PATIENTS HIGH QUALITY
CLINICAL CARE. AND ALSO
RESPECTING CLINICAL JUDGMENT. I
LOCALLY GOVERNED. ACCOUNTABLE
AND RESPONSIVE TO OUR
COMMUNITIES HEALTH NEEDS. DURING
THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY HOW
CAMINO HEALTH WHICH IS DISTRICT
HOSPITALS ONE OF THE FIRST
ORGANIZATIONS IN THE STATE
OFFERING ROBUST WILL BE NINETEEN
TESTING AND VACCINATIONS. WHEN
THEY BECAME AVAILABLE. WE SET UP
POP UP TESTING AND VACCINATION
SITES BECAUSE OF A NEEDED IN THE
COMMUNITY. ALL OTHER. HEALTHCARE
ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
TO BE FRANK WITH HAS HAVE
REDUCED MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
HOW CAMINO HAS EXPANDED MENTAL
HEALTH SERVICES BY INCREASING
THE NUMBER OF INPATIENT BEDS WE
HAVE TWENTY ONE B. OCT THIRTY
SIX. NINE PATIENT BEDS AND WE
ALSO LAUNCH NEW PROGRAMS. ARE
PERINATAL WHICH IS MORE BECAUSE
OF THE MOMS PROGRAM INPATIENT
PSYCHIATRY OF PROGRAM FOR MOMS.
IS ONE OF THREE IN THE ENTIRE
NATION. SENATE BILL SEVENTY FOUR
IS ABOUT HEALTH EQUITY AND
ACCESS. PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF
LIFE PHYSICIANS EVERYBODY ASKS
ME WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT. IN
MY ROLE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE
BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE IS NOT
OUR DISTRICT HOSPITAL WILL NOT
BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CARE FOR
SOMEONE WHO WALKS THROUGH OUR
DOORS. IN CLINICAL NEED SOMEBODY
NEED. BECAUSE WE HAVE BECAUSE OF
LACK OF CLINICAL SPECIALTY
CLINICAL RESOURCES. SB SEVENTY
FOUR WOULD BE JUST ONE TOOL OF A
DISTRICT HOSPITALS TO RECRUIT
AND RETAIN HIGH QUALITY
SPECIALTY AND PRIMARY CARE
PHYSICIANS TO PROVIDE CARE TO
THOSE MOST IN NEED. A CONCERNS
OFTEN RAISED THAT NONCLINICAL
ADMINISTRATORS OF BOARD MEMBERS
WOULD DIRECT CLINICAL CARE OR
INTERFERE WITH CLINICAL
FINISHING JUDGMENT. I'D LIKE TO
DISPEL THAT MYTH. AS A
PRACTICING PHYSICIAN MYSELF UP
PHYSICIANS PRACTICE MEDICINE
BASED ON EVIDENCE AND GUIDELINES
THAT ARE SET BY THE US
SOCIETIES. AND THE PARAMETERS
FOR CLINICAL PRACTICE IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND ACROSS
THE NATION ARE NOT SET BY
NONCLINICAL ADMINISTRATORS OR
BOARD MEMBERS. BUT BY SELF
GOVERNING INDEPENDENT MEDICAL
STAFF BODIES IN A HOSPITAL
MEDICAL STAFF BODY IS THE
ULTIMATE. ARBITER OF WALKS IN
THE KARTE CARE SHOULD BE
PROVIDED THE HOSPITAL. IT WOULD
BE VERY DIFFICULT IF NOT
IMPOSSIBLE FOR NON CLINICAL
ADMINISTRATIVE TO DIRECT
POLITICAL CARE BY PHYSICIANS OR
INTERFERE WITH THEIR CLINICAL
JUDGMENT. THE STRUCTURE FOR
DISTRICT POSSIBLE WOULD NOT
ALLOW THAT. THE MULTIPLE CHECKS
AND BALANCES FROM THAT FROM
HAPPENING. SENATE BILL SEVENTY
FOUR IS A MODEST BILL THAT WOULD
GIVE PUBLIC DISTRICT POSSIBLE IS
AN OPTION BUT OTHER PUBLIC
HOSPITALS SUCH AS UC'S UNUSUALLY
OF CALIFORNIA HOSPITALS
CURRENTLY ENJOY. DOUBLE STRENGTH
AND OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE LOCAL
ESSENTIAL CLINICAL SERVICES TO
INCREASE HEALTHCARE ACCESS TO
THOSE IN NEED IN OUR- IN OUR
DISTRICTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME THANK YOU DOCTOR ANY OTHER
. WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF THIS
MEASURE NAME. MISTER CHAIRMAN
CONNIE I'M OF THE DIS COST
LEADERSHIP. IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
FOR COMING ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT JOHN CALLEN FROM EL
CAMINO HEALTH AND SUPPORT. FIND
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
NOW LET'S TURN TO ANY OPPOSITION
WITNESSES FIRST LEAD OPPOSITION
WITNESS AND THEN. ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. I THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN OR THE
COMMITTEE BRAND IN MARCH WITH
THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION- WE HAVE THE UTMOST
RESPECT FOR THE SENATOR THE
AUTHOR HI. WE APPRECIATE HIS
WORK AND OUR CONVERSATIONS THUS
FAR UNFORTUNATELY. WITH THIS
BILL IS THE WRONG BILL AT THE
WRONG TIME- THE BILL DOES NOT
SOLVE THE STATE A PROBLEM OF
GETTING PHYSICIANS INTO THESE
COMMUNITIES THAT NEED CARE.
INSTEAD SB SEVEN EIGHTY FOUR
WOULD WIPE AWAY SOME
LONGSTANDING PROTECTIONS FOR
PATIENTS AND PROVIDERS FROM ALL
TEAR MOTIVE SUCH AS PROFITS. A
SHIFTING CULTURAL AND POLITICAL
PRESSURES AND FAITH BASED
BELIEFS WITH CURRENT ATTACKS TO
CUT ABORTION AND OTHER
REPRODUCTIVE CARE. GENDER
AFFIRMING SERVICES
INCORPORATIONS ACQUIESCING TO
POLITICAL CULTURE WARS IS MORE
IMPORTANT THAN EVER TO DEFEND
PATIENTS ABILITY TO GET THE
QUALITY CARE THEY NEED AND
DESERVE. IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING
THAT THE SENATOR INTRODUCED A
BILL TO ALLOW EL CAMINO HOSPITAL
TO DISTRICT TO EMPLOY
PHYSICIANS. HOWEVER THE
EXEMPTION IS NOT JUST LIMITED TO
EL CAMINO IN FACT APPLIES TO ANY
HOSPITAL DISTRICT THAT IS
STRUCTURED. IN THIS WAY.
ADDITIONALLY IS NOT CLEAR THAT
THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND ON
THE GROUND IN THE CASE OF EL
CAMINO IN PARTICULAR WEREN'T
THIS PERMANENT EXEMPTION. THE
AREA HAS POSITIONS BOTH
INDEPENDENT AND IN MEDICAL
GROUPS THEY'RE READY TO CONTRACT
WITH THE HOSPITAL TO PROVIDE
CARE IN THEIR. COMMUNITIES AND
AROUND THE COMMUNITIES. A
HOSPITAL DISTRICT INABILITY TO
COME TO NEGOTIATED. WITH THOSE
DOCTORS IS NOT A REASON TO COME
TO THE LEGISLATURE TO UNDERMINE
LONG STANDING LAW THAT PROVIDES
PATIENTS WITH THE PEACE OF MIND.
THAT WHEN THEY WALK IN TO SEE A
DOCTOR THAT DOCTOR HAS THE BEST
THEIR BEST INTERESTS AND THEIR
CARE. AT HEART NOT TO THE
INTERESTS OF THEIR EMPLOYERS.
THE SAFEGUARDS IN SB SEVEN
EIGHTY FOUR ARE NOT ARE ALSO NOT
STRONG ENOUGH TO PROTECT
POSITIONS FROM UNDUE INFLUENCE
FROM A HOSPITAL THAT HOLDS THEIR
PRIVILEGES. THEIR CREDENTIALS
AND THEIR ABILITY TO PRACTICE
MEDICINE. THESE INTERFERENCES
ARE DIFFICULT TO PROVE AND ARE
EVEN HARDER TO ARBITRATE IN
COURT WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY THE
CORPORATE BAR. IS IN FORCE TO
THIS DAY. AT A MINIMUM THE BILL
SHOULD REQUIRE REPORT FROM A
DEPARTMENT TO SEE HOW OFTEN THEY
EXEMPTION IS USE. THE
RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION RATE
OF PHYSICIANS AT THE HOSPITALS
AND TO ASSESS THE IMPACT ON
PATIENT AND PHYSICIAN DECISION
MAKING. TO REALLY ADDRESS THE
ISSUE OF PHYSICIAN RECRUITMENT
AND RETENTION IN RURAL AND
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.
CALIFORNIA MUST ADDRESS ITS
PUBLIC PAYER REIMBURSEMENT
RATES. THE ABILITY OF A HOSPITAL
AND PHYSICIAN TO BE PAYER
AGNOSTIC AND DID NOT LOSE MONEY
ON A MEDICAL VISIT. IS CRUCIAL
TO THE VIABILITY OF BOTH
HOSPITALS AND MEDICAL GROUPS UP
AND DOWN THE STATE. DECISIONS
ABOUT PATIENT CARE REGARDLESS OF
THE SERVICE SHOULD BE INSULATED
FROM PROFITEERING. POLITICAL OR
RELIGIOUS ENTITIES. SB SEVEN
EIGHTY FOUR WOULD ELIMINATE THAT
BALL WORK ENSURES THAT CARE
DECISIONS ARE MADE IN THE BEST
INTEREST OF THE PATIENT. AND NOT
ENCUMBERED BY A CAN'T ALTER YOUR
MOTIVES. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOU KNOW. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
. SINGLE LET'S TURN TO THE
TELECONFERENCE OF THIS MODERATOR
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
OTHER IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO. SENATE BILL SEVENTY FOUR
WILL TAKE THEM. TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO SB. SEVEN EIGHT
FOUR PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO
AT THIS TIME. AND MISTER CHAIR
WE HAVE NO COMMENT. THANK YOU
LET'S BRING THE MATTER BACK TO-
THE DENNIS AND MY COLLEAGUES FOR
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
COLLEAGUES ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. SURESH THREE. AND OR
AT THE END OF A LONG HEARING BUT
I JUST THAT. YOU KNOW I'M I'M
WILLING TO VOTE FOR IT TODAY BUT
I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU WHAT WHAT
YOU'RE DOING TO WORK. I WITH THE
OPPOSITION TO SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT HE SHARED OR PRETTY
CONCERNING AND I JUST WANNA MAKE
SURE THAT YOU'RE- YOU'RE
PLANNING ON WORKING ON THOSE AYE
I KNOW SHE DIDN'T SEPT ANY
AMENDMENTS HERE BUT IT IS GOING
TO HEALTH SO MAYBE THERE'LL BE.
SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME MORE
DISCUSSION THERE. I'M NOT
WORKING GRANT AND GET. NO I THE
GREAT RELATIONSHIP- WITH HIM A
WE ARE CONTINUING TO HAVE
CONVERSATIONS I THINK SOME IS
BROADER POINTS ARE ARE. VERY
VALID REPUBLIC PAYER AND ALL THE
THINGS THAT ARE. BEYOND THE
SCOPE OF THIS BILL BUT- I
ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT WE
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON FOR
OKAY THANK YOU. WHO KNOWS
COLLEAGUES. IF NOT TERM CENTER
BACK WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE.
YES THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THE-
THAT THE QUESTION AND THE
CONCERN AGAIN I THINK. JUST TO
RESTATE THAT THIS DOES MERE THE
PROTECTIONS IN EXISTING CODE.
ENSURING CLINICAL JUDGMENT RESTS
SOLELY WITH THE POSITION SUCH
WINNER. BILLY REASSURED FOLKS ON
THAT POINT- WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK ON IT AND I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU
SIR AND IN MOTION. SIR NEELAM
MOVES THE BILL THE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO SENATE HEALTH PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. ROTH AYE ROTH I
WENT. WHEN I OVER TO KILL. OF
ARTICLE AYE ARCHULETA AYE
ARCHULETA AYE ASHLEY. ASHLEY AYE
BACKER. AYE OCCUR AYE DODD. AYE
DODD AYE EGGMAN. EGGMAN AYE
GLAZER. HELLO ALL. NEIL I
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS I MADRE THIS
IOWA HAN. BOB WILK. HE WAS ABLE
TO BILL HAS A LOT. WELCOME WILL
. FIVE THE BILL HAS TWELVE VOTES
AT THIS POINT WILL HOLD THE ROLE
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. FLASH
BACK.
IF WE HAVE MEMBERS WHO WISH TO
ADD ON TO THE ROLE ON THE
BUSINESS PROFESSIONS AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
LIKE SUGGEST THAT YOU BEAT FEET
DOWN HERE TO THE HEARING ROOM.
TWENTY ONE HUNDRED THANK YOU.
OKAY WE'RE BACK IN ACTION WE'RE
GONNA OPEN THE ROLE WITH ITEM
NUMBER ONE SENATE BILL TWO
EIGHTY FIVE SENATOR ALAN THE
CURRENT VOTE IS. NINE TWO ONE
SURE VOTING- **** RIGHT BAKER I
EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE GLAZER GLAZER
AYE. VOTE IS TWELVE TO ONE THAT
MATTER IS OUT ITEM NUMBER TWO
SENATE BILL FOUR FOUR SEVEN
CENTER ATKINS CURRENT VOTE IS
SIX TO- VOTING- I. WHEN NOW
BAKER BAKER I EGGMAN EGGMAN I
GLAZERS GLAZER I SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS SMALLWOOD CUEVAS I. VOTE
IS TEN TO THREE THAT MATTER IS
OUT- I ITEM NUMBERS THREE SENATE
BILL FIVE ONE SEVEN SENATOR
GONZALEZ. CURRENT VOTE IS EIGHT
ZERO CHAIR VOTING- ASHLEY ASHLEY
I BAKER BAKER AYE EGGMAN EGGMAN
AYE GLAZER PLEASE R. I.
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS SMALLER TRAVIS
I. CURRENT BOOK THIRTEEN ZERO
THAT MATTERS OUT ITEM NUMBER FOR
SENATE BILL FIVE TWO FOUR.
SENATOR COVER ZERO CURRENT VOTE
IS NINE TO CHEER VOTING AYE
EGGMAN. EGGMAN I'D GLAZER. VOTE
IS TEND TO THAT BILL IS OUT. I
DO NUMBER FIVE SB SEVEN EIGHT
FIVE CENTER COVER YOUR- CURRENT
VOTE IS FIVE TO ONE SURE VOTING
HI. WHEN BAKER ALL RIGHT BAKER I
. EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE GLAZER.
LASER I NEED LOW SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS SMALLER PRIVATE AYE WILK
. VOTE IS NINE TO ONE THAT
MEASURE IS OUT. I DON'T NUMBER
SIX SB SIX ZERO ONE SENATOR
MCGUIRE CURRENT VOTE IS ELEVEN
TO ZERO SURE VOTING AYE GLAZER.
GLAZER I WILL HAN WILL HAVE BY.
KERN VOTE THIRTEEN ZERO THAT
MEASURE IS OUT NEXT ITEM. IS.
THE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SENATOR
DODD S. B. TWO SEVEN ONE. VOTE
IS EIGHT TWO ZERO SURE VOTING I
. WHEN I ASHLEY ASHLEY I EGGMAN
EGGMAN I GLAZERS GLAZER AYE BOB
. LEVINE KERN BOTH THIRTEEN ZERO
THAT MATTER IS OUT. NEXT ITEM
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SB SIX SIX
SEVEN SENATOR DODD CURRENT VOTE
IS EIGHT TO ZERO SURE VOTING-
AYE ASHLEY. ASHLEY I BAKER ALL
RIGHT AFTER I EGGMAN EGGMAN AYE
GLAZER. SMALLWOOD CUEVAS
FOLLOWED CRITICIZED. KERN VOTE
TWELVE TWO ZERO THAT MATTER IS
OUT. NEXT ITEM ITEM NUMBER NINE
SENATOR BOOKER SENATE BILL SEVEN
EIGHT FOUR CURRENT VOTE IS
TWELVE TO ZERO CHAIR VOTING I.
GLAZER. TWELVE ZERO THAT MATTER
IS OUT. I AM NUMBER TEN SENATOR
ELDORADO GUILD CURRENT VOTE IS
EIGHT ZERO SURE VOTING- OCCUR
ALL RIGHT BAKER I EGGMAN. EGGMAN
I'D GLAZERS GLAZER AYE MALIK
CUEVAS BOB. KERN VOTE ELEVEN
ZERO THAT MATTER IS OUT. INSTEAD
OF ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN SENATE
BILL EIGHT TO NINE SENATOR WILL
CURRENT VOTERS EIGHT TO ZERO
SURE VOTING AYE BAKER ALL RIGHT.
I EGGMAN EGGMAN I'D GLAZER LASER
I SMALLER CUEVAS. BOB KERN VOTE
IS ELEVEN ZERO THAT MATTER IS
OUT. THANK YOU ALL FOR WHO
PARTICIPATED TO TODAY'S HEARING
. SENATE BUSINESS PROFESSIONS
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
COMMITTEE IS.