AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE
ASSEMBLY BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONS COMMITTEE WILL COME
TO ORDER THE SENATE CONTINUES TO
WELCOME THE PUBLIC AND IS
PROVIDED ACCESS BOTH IN PERSON
AND TELECONFERENCING TO
SUPPRESSION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT V. THE
TELECONFERENCE ORVIS THE
PARTICIPANT TOLL FREE NUMBER IS
. 877-226-8216 AND THE ACCESS
CODE IS. SIX TWO ONE SEVEN ONE
SIX ONE. AGAIN THE ACCESS CODE.
SIX TWO ONE SEVEN ONE SIX ONE
FOR TODAY'S HEARING PUBLIC
COMMENT MAY BE PROVIDED ON EACH
PROGRAM UPON THE CONCLUSION OF
QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEES. TODAY IS THE SECOND
IN OUR SERIES OF SUNSET REVIEW
OVERSIGHT HEARINGS THIS YEAR THE
HEARINGS ALLOW FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF REGULATORY
PROGRAMS AND TO DETERMINE
WHETHER CHANGES IN THE LAW. OR
OPERATION OR FUNCTION OR
NECESSARY TODAY WE WILL BE
REVIEWING SPECIFIC ISSUES
REGARDING THE BUREAU OF
HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND SERVICES THE
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARIES BUREAU
THE DENTAL HYGIENE BOARD OF
CALIFORNIA AND THE MEDICAL BOARD
OF CALIFORNIA. THESE PROGRAMS
EXPIRE ON JANUARY ONE TWO
THOUSAND TWENTY FOUR UNLESS
EXTENDED OUR CONVERSATIONS TODAY
AND MOVING FORWARD WILL INFORM
OUR COLLECTIVE WORK TO DETERMINE
NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS OR
STATUTORY CHANGES SHOULD THE
LEGISLATURE DECIDE TO CONTINUE
THE OPERATIONS OF EACH OF THE
ENTITIES WE WILL BE TALKING
ABOUT TODAY. TO ASSIST IN THE
REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF EACH
AGENCY COMMITTEE STAFF PREPARED
BACKGROUND PAPERS WHICH IDENTIFY
ISSUES AND MAKE STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EACH OF THE
PROGRAMS. THESE PAPERS HAVE BEEN
POSTED ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE. AND MADE AVAILABLE TO
INTERESTED PARTIES. EACH PROGRAM
WILL PROVIDE A VERY BRIEF
OVERVIEW OF THEIR FUNCTIONS
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEES WILL
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THEN. TO
RAISE ANY OTHER ISSUES OR
QUESTIONS WHICH THEY MAY HAVE.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM
CONSUMER GROUPS PROFESSIONAL
ORGANIZATIONS AND MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC FOR EACH PORTION OF
TODAY'S HEARING. I WOULD LIKE TO
INVITE. THE CHAIR OF THE
ASSEMBLY BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONS COMMITTEE MY FRIEND
MARC BERMAN TO MAKE ANY OPENING
REMARKS HE DESIRES TO MAKE.
THANK YOU SURE ROTH JUST WANNA
THANK YOU FOR HOSTING US FOR THE
HEARINGS TODAY I THOUGHT WE HAD
A GREAT CONVERSATION ON TUESDAY
WITH WITH THE OTHER FOUR- BOARDS
AND- THOUGHT. COLLEAGUES ASK
GREAT QUESTIONS AND AFFORDED
TODAY'S CONVERSATION AS WELL
THANK YOU THANK YOU SIR THANKS
FOR JOINING US. WE WILL NOW HEAR
FROM KIMBERLY KIRCH MEYER
DIRECTOR DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER
AFFAIRS AND JUSTIN PADDICK
BUREAU CHIEF AS WE BEGIN OUR
DISCUSSION OF THE BUREAU OF
HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND SERVICES.
WELCOME EVERYONE PLEASE PROCEED
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON HMM
ROCKS CHAIRMAN BERMAN AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M KIMBERLY
KURT MEYER DIRECTOR OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS
AND THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THE
STRUCTURE AND FUNCTIONS OF THE
BUREAU. AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
YOU MAY HAVE. I ALSO WANT TO
THANK COMMITTEE STAFFER THE TIME
THEY HAVE SPENT ON THE
BACKGROUND PAPERS. THE BUREAU OF
HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND SERVICES
MISSION IS TO PROTECT CONSUMERS
THE SCOPE OF THE BUREAU'S
ACTIVITY HAS GROWN OVER THE
YEARS. TO ADJUST TO THE CHANGING
MARKET PLACE THE BUREAU STARTED
WITH THE REGULATION OF
MANUFACTURERS WHOLESALERS AND
RETAILERS OF MATTRESSES
UPHOLSTERED FURNITURE AND
BEDDING PRODUCTS. IT NOW
INCLUDES THERMAL INSULATION
REPAIRS TO PERSONAL ELECTRONICS
AND APPLIANCES SERVICE CONTRACTS
AND THE MOST RECENT ADDITION
HOUSEHOLD MOVERS. THE BILL HAS
AN ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT MEETS
ON A REGULAR BASIS WHICH IS
COMPOSED OF INDUSTRY AND PUBLIC
VOLUNTEERS WHO SERVE AS SUBJECT
MATTER EXPERTS AND PROVIDE
FEEDBACK. ON THE BUREAU'S
OPERATIONS THE BUREAU IS UNIQUE
IN THAT NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE
OFFICE SPACE HERE IN SACRAMENTO
AND SPECIAL INVESTIGATORS THAT
WORK OUT OF THEIR HOMES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. BUT IT
ALSO HAS A NATIONALLY ACCREDITED
LABORATORY WHERE IT TESTED THE
PRODUCTS OF THE LICENSEES THAT
IT OVERSEAS. I'M ALSO HAPPY TO
REPORT THAT THE BOROUGH'S OUT
REACH UP PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE
SUSPENDED DUE TO COVERED
NINETEEN HAVE COMMENCED AGAIN IN
TWENTY TWENTY THREE. STAFF
ATTENDED THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION FRAUD
SYMPOSIUM IN FEBRUARY AND GAVE A
PRESENTATION ON HOUSEHOLD MOVERS
ISSUES. AND HOW THEY CAN PARTNER
WITH THE BUREAU TO PURSUE
CRIMINAL CASES AGAINST
UNSCRUPULOUS MOVERS. INCLUDING
THOSE WHO HOLD CONSUMERS
BELONGINGS HOSTAGE. MORE OUT
REGION SPEAKING EVENTS ARE
PLANNED FOR APRIL AND MAY
INCLUDING THE INTERNATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF BEDDING AND
FURNITURE LAW OFFICIALS ANNUAL
MEETING. AND THE CALIFORNIA
MOVING AND STORAGE ASSOCIATION'S
A HUNDRED AND FIFTH ANNUAL
CONVENTION. WITH ME HERE TODAY
S. BUREAU CHIEF JUSTIN PADDOCK
WILL PROVIDE BRIEF REMARKS ABOUT
THE BROKE AND WILL BE AVAILABLE
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY MY NAME
IS JUSTIN PADDICK I AM CHAIR OF
THE BUREAU. I JUST HAD A FEW
BRIEF REMARKS BEFORE WE BEGIN-
I'VE SINCE I'VE JOINED THE
BUREAU IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR
I'VE WORKED WITH OUR ADVISORY
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OUR STAFF TO
DEVELOP A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC
PLAN TO HELP US GUIDE TO. GUIDE
US THROUGH THE NEXT COMING YEARS
I'VE ALSO WORKED WITH STAFF TO
FORMALIZE ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ECAS-
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY OFFICE TO
ESSENTIALLY CREATE. A NEW
PLATFORM FOR. OUR IT SYSTEM
KNOWN AS CONNECT AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO THAT LAUNCHING- IN
SPRING. OUT IN ADDITIONALLY WE
ARE ALSO RAMPING UP THE BUREAU'S
DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS IN THE LAST
FEW MONTHS I'VE SUBMITTED FOR-
POTENTIAL ACTIONS THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE. TO FOR THE
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS PROGRAM ONE
FOR THE ELECTRONIC APPLIANCE
REPAIRS A PROGRAM AND ONE FOR
THE HOME FURNISHINGS AND THERMAL
INSULATION PROGRAM. ALSO AS
DIRECTOR KURT MEYER POINTED OUT
WE ARE EXPANDING OUTREACH
RECENTLY THE BUREAU HIRED A NEW
DEPUTY CHIEF HER NAME IS CLEAR
GOLDSTINE SHE COMES- WITH
EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC
AFFAIRS. AT BOTH THE CONTRACTORS
BOARD AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT
OF REAL ESTATE AND WE'RE LOOKING
FORWARD TO IT TO HER AT LEADING
UP OUR OUTREACH AT THE BUREAU.
FINALLY I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT
OUR FOCUS IN THE HOUSEHOLD MOVER
SPACE- I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU
HAVE HEARD OF CONSUMER. HEARD OF
EXPERIENCES WHERE CONSUMERS ARE
SEPARATED FROM THEIR A
BELONGINGS FOR MONTHS AND
SOMETIMES EVEN FOR YEARS- THESE
ARE KNOWN AS HOLD HOSTAGE CASES
OR RECOVERY CASES. HOLD HOSTAGE
OUR MOST EGREGIOUS CASES THAT'S
WHEN A SENSUALLY CONSUMERS BEING
EXTORTED. BEFORE THEY CAN GET
THEIR GOODS BACK. IT'S
INCREDIBLY TRAUMATIC- AND- THERE
ARE TIMES WHERE PEOPLE OF EVEN
BEEN SEPARATED FROM LOVED ONES
WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO
RECONNECT ONE INDIVIDUAL WITH
THEIR MOTHER'S ASHES- IN
ADDITION WE ALSO HAVE RECOVERY
CASES THIS IS THESE ARE CASES
WHERE ACTUALLY THE HOUSEHOLD
GOODS. WERE ESSENTIALLY
ABANDONED SO THEY'RE NOT BEING
EXTORTED ANYMORE BUT THESE CAN
BE JUST AS DRAMATIC FOR CONSUMER
I'M HAPPY TO REPORT- IN THE LAST
FEW YEARS WE'VE- ESSENTIALLY
BEEN ABLE TO RECONNECT OVER A
HUNDRED CONSUMERS- WITH THEIR
GOODS. I IT'S VERY REWARDING
WORK- AND WE CAN- WE HOPE TO
CONTINUE TO KEEP DOING THOSE
SORT OF HOLD HOSTAGE RECOVERY.
EFFORTS WITHOUT WILL ALSO BE
PERFORMING STING OPERATIONS WE
FOUND THAT THAT THESE SORTS OF
CASES BOTH OF THESE CASES HOLD
HOSTAGE AND RECOVERY ARE
TYPICALLY IN THE UNLICENSED
MOVER SPACE- AND WE'RE GOING TO
START RAMPING UP OUR STING
OPERATIONS TO ESSENTIALLY CATCH
PEOPLE AT HOUSES. WE'RE GONNA
ASK THEM TO COME GIVE US A BIT
AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA
FILE A NOTICE TO APPEAR WHERE
THEY'RE GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE TO
GO TO COURT- AND WITH THAT I
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
TESTIFY TODAY AND LOOK FOR YOUR
QUESTIONS. WELL THANK YOU
MODERNIZE KICK IT OFF WITH A
COUPLE AND THEN TURNED OVER TO
MY COLLEAGUES. YOU ADMINISTER
THREE SEPARATE PROGRAMS CORRECT
YES SIR AND THAT INCLUDES THREE
SEPARATE PROGRAM FUND ACCOUNTS.
A DOES THAT CREATE PARTICULAR
PROBLEMS FOR YOU THE NEED TO BE
ADDRESSED. I IT CERTAINLY DOES I
THINK A CLASSIC EXAMPLE IS I
SPECIFICALLY IN PAID OUT OF
WHAT'S CALLED A HOME FURNISHINGS
AND THERMAL INSULATION ACCOUNT.
ON ANY GIVEN DAY I WORK IN ALL
THREE PRACTICE ACCIDENTS IT'S
EXCEEDINGLY DIFFICULT FOR ME AT
THE END OF A WEEK OR A MONTH TO
SORT OF TELL YOU HOW I'VE SPENT
MY TIME UNLESS I DO SOME SORT OF
BILL PULLS. A MORE EXTREME
EXAMPLES ARE SPECIAL
INVESTIGATORS WHO WORK OUT OF
THEIR HOMES BUT ALSO HAVE
VEHICLES. IN THE MORNING THEY
COULD BE VISITING- AN APPLIANCE
REPAIR SHOP. THEN THEY COULD BE
GOING TO A MOVER STORAGE
FACILITY AND THEN AFTER THAT
THEY COULD BE GOING TO A
FURNITURE RETAILER IN THE
EVENING. IT'S EXCEEDINGLY HARD
TO FIGURE OUT. OKAY HOW ARE WE
GONNA SPLIT UP THE GAS BILL FOR
THE CAR THAT DAY- THEIR IT
NEEDS- SO IT GETS EXTREMELY
COMPLICATED WHEN WE HAD TWO
ACCOUNTS NOW WE HAVE THREE AND
IT. IT IS EXCEEDINGLY
COMPLICATED. THERE BEEN
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MERGING THE
THREE PROGRAMS IN PARTICULAR
THREE FUNDS. INTO ONE FUND. HOW
WOULD THAT WORK IN OTHER ISSUES
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT.
SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WERE
ASKING THIS BODY TO CONSIDER IS
TO MERGE THE THREE FUNDS- AND
WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS SOME
SORT OF PERIODIC REVIEW. SIMILAR
TO SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE BY A
VENDOR OF OURS RECENTLY CPS HR
CALL THE WORK- WORKLOAD
ANALYSIS. ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE
SOME FORM OF AUDIT THAT
PERIODICALLY OCCURS TO FIGURE
OUT HOW MUCH TIME STAFFERS
SPENDING IN THE VARIOUS PRACTICE
ACTS. AND THEN ACCORDINGLY
ADJUST WHATEVER OUR FEE SCHEDULE
IS FOR THOSE THREE DIFFERENT
PRACTICE ACTS. WHOOP THE THREE
FUNDS ARE OF. HAVE VARYING
DEGREES OF RESERVE BALANCES.
VARYING DEGREES OF SUCCESS IN
TERMS OF BUILDING UP RESERVES.
HOW DOES THAT WORK WHEN YOU
MERGE THEM INTO ONE. AGAIN THAT
WHAT WE WOULD BE SEEKING IS
ESSENTIALLY THAT SORT OF
WORKLOAD ANALYSIS TO MAKE SURE
THAT THERE'S EQUAL FOOTING AND
ONE THING TO POINT OUT. WILL BE
PROVIDING THE COMMITTEE IN THE
COMING WEEKS- THE CPS HR REPORT
WITH ITS WORKLOAD ANALYSIS. THAT
REPORT ACTUALLY DISCOVERED THAT
THE YEAR AND A HALF DAYS SORRY
THAT'S THE SHORTHAND THE
ELECTRONIC APPLIANCE REPAIR IN
THE HOME FURNISHINGS ACCOUNTS-
AND STAFF HAVE BEEN CONTRIBUTING
ROUGHLY ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE A
YEAR TO THE HOUSEHOLD MOVER
PROGRAM- SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE
THEY'RE OWED- AND- AND- WE WOULD
JUST. WE WOULD WANT TO
PERIODICALLY REVIEW HOUSE
STAFFERS SPENDING THEIR TIME TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROPERLY
BALANCING- WHERE WERE WHERE WERE
ACTUALLY GETTING A RESOURCES
FROM FROM THE VARIOUS LICENSEES.
AGAIN DE FOR THE HOUSEHOLD
MOVERS WE'RE VERY MUCH STILL IN
THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASES WE'VE
AS WE'VE REMARKED IN A REPORT
AND SO WE WANT TO DO THIS
ASSESSMENT ONCE THAT
IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION
PHASES OVER. AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE
CONCERNED ABOUT IS LEGISLATORS
IS. HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT ONE
LICENSING GROUP ONE GROUP OF
LICENSEES IS NOT SUBSIDIZING THE
WORK OF THE OTHERS AND YOU'VE
TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO DO A
WORKLOAD ANALYSIS BUT- OBVIOUSLY
THE I THINK IT'S THE HOUSEHOLD
GOODS. FUND IS RATHER ROBUST.
AND THE OTHER TWO HOUSEHOLD
FURNISHINGS AND EQUIPMENT PLANTS
REPAIR NOT SO MUCH SO HOW HOW
WHAT GUARDRAILS WHICH YOU BUILD
INTO ANY SORT OF MERGER TO MAKE
SURE THAT. THE LICENSEES CAN
FEEL CERTAIN THAT THEY'RE NOT
PAYING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S
ENFORCEMENT FOR EXAMPLE OR- AS I
MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY IT AT THIS
POINT. THE CARD REAL I WOULD
LIKE IS ESSENTIALLY SOME FORM OF
AUDIT BECAUSE- AT THE MOMENT
YEAR AND HAVE T. HAVE ALREADY.
GIVEN STAFF TO THE HOUSEHOLD
MEMBERS PROGRAM AND ARE
ESSENTIALLY OWED FROM THE
HOUSEHOLD MOVERS PROGRAM FOR THE
STAFF THAT THEY'VE CONTRIBUTED.
AND SENATOR I THINK REALLY WHAT
THEY WOULD LOOK AT IS THEY WOULD
GO IN AND SEE HOW MUCH. BECAUSE
USUALLY FOR LIKE AN APPLICATION
FEE IT'S HOW MUCH YOU'RE
SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR YOUR
APPLICATION FEE IT'S BASED ON
WHAT THE ACTUAL COST WAS TO
PERFORM THE APPLICATION REVIEW.
AND ISSUE A LICENSE SO THAT
GROUP WOULD COME IN AND STUDY
THAT AND IS THE YOU KNOW AT THAT
YEAR THE HEFTY AND THE HOUSEHOLD
MEMBERS ARE THEY ALL PAY IN THE
CORRECT FEE AND THEN IF NOT
ADJUST THOSE FEES. ACCORDINGLY
AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT
THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE WORK
THAT'S PERFORMED BASED ON THE
AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IS DONE FOR
EACH DIFFERENT UNIT AND DO THAT
AND ALICE IS TO IDENTIFY. IF
THERE ISN'T THEN THE RENEWAL
FEES ARE ACCURATE FOR THE WORK
THAT'S BEING PERFORMED FOR EACH
ONE. WELL THANK YOU AND THEN.
JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE
APPLICATIONS AND ISSUE NUMBER.
NINE DEALS WITH CRIMINAL
BACKGROUND CHECKS PERHAPS YOU
COULD TOUCH ON THOSE ISSUES FOR
US AND- TELL US WHAT WHAT THE
ISSUE REALLY IS. ABSOLUTELY
WHAT'S CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT
MOST DCA PROGRAMS IS INDIVIDUALS
ARE GOING TO BE- COMING INTO
YOUR HOME. OR INDIVIDUALS WHO
ARE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO VERY
SENSITIVE INFORMATION FROM YOU.
ARE TYPICALLY BACKGROUND
CHECKED. SO FOR EXAMPLE
HOUSEHOLD MOVERS AT THE MOMENT-
HAVE A FINGERPRINT REVIEW AS
PART OF THEIR APPLICATION
PROCESS. WHAT THE BUREAU IS
SEEKING IS THAT THIS OCCURRED
FOR THE ELECTRONIC AND APPLIANCE
REPAIR SPACE BECAUSE THERE ARE
TWO SETS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO. ARE
GOING TO HAVE ESSENTIALLY
INTIMATE CONTACT WITH CONSUMERS.
THE APPLIANCE REPAIR INDIVIDUALS
WILL BE COMING IN YOUR HOME TO
BE MAKING REPAIRS AND WHEN IT
COMES THE ELECTRONIC APPLIANCE
REPAIR SPACE THESE ARE
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GOING TO BE
REPAIRING. YOUR CHILD'S LAPTOP-
YOUR CELLPHONE THINGS OF THAT
NATURE AND WILL HAVE ACCESS TO A
LOT OF PERSONAL IDENTIFYING
INFORMATION SO WE'RE SEEKING
THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS- HAVE A
BACKGROUND CHECK PRIOR TO THE
REGISTRATION. AND HAVE YOU BEEN
IN CONTACT WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE IN TERMS OF THE KIND
OF. THE LANGUAGE THAT WILL NEED
TO BE EMBEDDED IN STATUTE TO
AUTHORIZE YOU TO SECURE. BY
CHECK INFORMATION. I HAVE NOT
BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE I'M HAPPY
TO DO THAT. WHAT WE WOULD
TYPICALLY DO IS ADOPT STATUTORY
LANGUAGE FOR OTHER PROGRAMS- AND
WE WOULD ALSO WORK WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ON-
GETTING WHAT'S CALLED SUBSEQUENT
ARREST INFORMATION FOR HOUSEHOLD
MOVERS THAT WERE LICENSED UNDER
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION. AND
SENATOR AT THAT IS SOMETHING
WE'RE WORKING ON ON ANOTHER
BOARD AND SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT
LANGUAGE THAT WE COULD. USE THAN
YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY IT WAS A
DIFFERENT CONTEXT AND MAYBE THE
ISSUES ARE THE SAME BUT THEN YOU
KNOW THAT WE'VE- HAD SOME
DIFFICULTY WITH LANGUAGE IN THE
PAST- SO WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO NOT
HAVE THAT. WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO
GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AS
OPPOSED TO THE SECOND OR THIRD
SO WHATEVER YOU CAN. HELP US ONE
LAST QUESTION. IN TERMS OF YOUR
ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS- ARE THERE-
ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO
DO AS A LEGISLATURE TO. HELP YOU
IMPROVE YOUR ENFORCEMENT
PROCESS. I DON'T SEE ANY NEED
TO. UPDATE ANY STATUTES AT THIS
TIME SENATOR. THE BUREAU FOR A
LONG TIME AND HAS HAD A PROVEN
TRACK RIDER RECORD OF ISSUING
CITATIONS. MY ROLE AND MY GOAL
IN THE COMING YEARS IS TO
INCREASE DISCIPLINARY ACTION SO
THE CITATIONS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN
GOING IN A FAIRLY GOOD CLIP. BUT
MY PRIORITY WITH MY ENFORCEMENT
STAFF AND WHATEVER CLEARLY
COMMUNICATED WITH THEM. IS I
WANT YOU TO START IDENTIFYING
THE INDIVIDUALS WITH MULTIPLE
COMPLAINTS AGAINST THEM. AND I
WE NEED TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO
MAKE SURE THAT THOSE COMPLAINTS
STOP. SO THE INDIVIDUALS GOT A
COMPLAINTS AGAINST THEM. IS IT
WHETHER WE GO FOR A REVOCATION
OR SUSPENSION WHETHER WE SEEK
INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AND START
WORKING WITH LOCAL DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS OFFICES THAT'S MY
PRIORITY AND A SUCCESS FOR MY
TEAM. IS WHEN WE ACTUALLY STOP
SEEN COMPLAINTS FROM THAT
PARTICULAR BUSINESS. AND THAT'S
THAT'S MY FOCUS. OKAY THE BILL
HAS ONE MORE FEE INCREASES FOR A
EQUIPMENT APPLIANCE REPAIR AND
HOUSEHOLD FURNISHINGS. THE TO
FUNDS THAT SEEM TO HAVE THE
LOWEST RESERVE BALANCE DO YOU
SEE FEE INCREASES AS BEING
NECESSARY NOW AN HOUR IN THE
FUTURE. YES WHAT WE'RE
RECOMMENDING IS VERY MODEST FEE
INCREASES AGAIN WILL RELEASE THE
CPS HR REPORT WITH- WITH OUR
FORMAL RESPONSES TO THE- TO THE
COMMITTEES IN THE COMING WEEKS-
WE'RE SEEKING MUCH MORE MODEST
INCREASES- COMPARED TO WHAT THE
REPORT WAS RECOMMENDING- IN
ADDITION WITH THE ARM. WITH FUND
CONSOLIDATION THAT WERE
REQUESTING THANK YOU SIR LET ME
TURN OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES ON
THE DYESS- CIRCULAR OKAY THANK
YOU SURE THANK YOU BIRTH
APPEARING BEFORE US AND- I THANK
YOU FOR YOUR WORK OBVIOUSLY
PROTECTING. THE CONSUMER IS YOUR
UMBRELLA AND UNDER THAT UMBRELLA
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS
OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO
ARE INSPECTORS PER SE. AND YET
YOU HAVE ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF IT
ALL IS THAT THE SAME INDIVIDUAL
WHO GO OUT AND INSPECT OBVIOUSLY
WHAT TOOK PLACE AND ALSO RIGHT
UP TO THE- THE VIOLATION AND
THEN IN PORTION. OR IS IT
DIFFERENT LAYERS OF PEOPLE THAT.
WILL COME TOGETHER AS A TEAM WE
EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT WOULD GO
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT OFF
THE BAT THE HOME FURNISHINGS YOU
KNOW THE WASHER DRYER. IT WAS
FALSELY SOLD TO- THE CONTRACT
WAS- IF THE REGULATION TO
CONTRACT THE- THE- SERVICE
CONTRACT WAS WRONG AND IT GOES
ON AND ON IT'S A NIGHTMARE. AND
SO WALK ME THROUGH THAT WHEN AND
THEN I THEN I'LL TURN OVER INTO
THE MOVING PART OF IT ALL. FOR
THE MOST PART AT OUR ENFORCEMENT
TEAM IS COMPRISED OF SORT OF TWO
GROUPS ONE OF WHICH CONDUCTS
DESK INVESTIGATIONS AND OUR
COMPLIANCE UNIT. AND THE SECOND
GROUP ARE SPECIAL INVESTIGATORS
FOR THE MOST PART- THAT HANDLE
FIELD WORK. THAT WE DO ACTUALLY
HAVE ONE INSPECTOR WHO IS SOLELY
DEVOTED TO HOME FURNISHINGS AND
THERMAL INSULATION THAT CONDUCTS
COMPLIANCE INSPECTIONS. AND ALSO
TRAINS A LOT OF OUR STAFF OUR
SPECIAL INVESTIGATORS TO DO THAT
DURING THE DAY. BUT FOR THE MOST
PART. THE FIELD STAFF ARE
COMPOSED A SPECIAL INVESTIGATORS
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO FOR EXAMPLE THEY CAN BE GOING
IN THE MORNING TO AN ELECTRONIC-
REPAIR FACILITY. TO DISCUSS A
COMPLAINT THAT CONSUMER FILED-
COLLECT EVIDENCE- AND THEY THEY
ACTUALLY WOULD DO A COMPLIANCE
CHECK AS WELL- BASED ON WHAT
THEY'RE SEEN- IS THE
REGISTRATION AND READY. VIEW OUR
THE PROPER TOOLS ON SITE- ARE
THEY DOING PROPER INVOICING AND
ESTIMATES AS ACCORDING TO THE
ACT- BUT THEN THAT INDIVIDUAL
THE VERY NEXT STOP COULD BE AT A
FURNITURE RETAILER- WHERE
THEY'RE PULLING AT A PIECE OF
FURNITURE THAT. OUR LAB WILL
TEST AS WELL AS DOING A
COMPLIANCE INSPECTION THERE AND
THEN THEY COULD BE GOING TO
HOUSEHOLD MEMBER AFTER THAT AND
DOING AN INTERVIEW BASED ON A
COMPLAINT. IN ITS THE FIRST
SECOND TALK ABOUT THE- THE
NIGHTMARE OF MOVING IN. AND YOU
GET TO THE OTHER END YOUR
FURNITURE IS DAMAGED- IT'S ONLY
HALF DELIVERED. AND YOU'RE
FIGHTING FOR THE INSURANCE
YOU'RE FIGHTING WITH THE
COMPANY. AND THEN LIKE YOU SAID
THEY'RE HELD HOSTAGE. OF WHERE
DOES THE EXPERT COMMAND WHERE
DOES THE COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN
YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THAT
CONSUMERS FINALLY TAKE HOLD.
THEY ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING
WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME. WHAT ARE
THE STEPS THAT ARE TAKEN ON
THAT. SATISFY THE CONSUMER
OBVIOUSLY. ABSOLUTELY SO THE
NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS TO DO OUR
BEST TO MAKE THE CONSUMER IN
THEIR PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE
HOLE RIGHT AWAY- WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN IS THEY WOULD CALL OUR
NUMBER I NINE ONE SIX NINE NINE
NINE TWO THE FORTY ONE- AND THEY
WOULD BE ABLE TO TALK. WITH
SOMEONE. IMMEDIATELY IN OUR
HOUSEHOLD MOVERS UNIT- THEY
WOULD GET SOME BACKGROUND THEY
WOULD COLLECT SOME INFORMATION-
AND THEN IT WOULD BE REFERRED TO
ONE OF OUR SPECIAL
INVESTIGATORS. I'M TYPICALLY
THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE
HAPPENING WITHIN A COUPLE WEEKS
OF THE COMPLAINT BUT NO MATTER
WHAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY TALK TO A
HUMAN BEING. THE SAME OUR THEY
CALL REALLY IT'S ABOUT USUALLY
THREE MINUTES UNLESS THAT THOSE
INDIVIDUALS ARE ON ANOTHER LINE-
BUT EVERYONE SPOKEN TO THE SAME
DAY- AND WE GET FAMILIAR WITH
YOUR CASE- DEPENDING ON THE
CIRCUMSTANCES. WE COULD BE
LOOKING INTO MEDIATION WHERE THE
MOVERS SAYS- HERE. EIGHT WHAT'S
ARRANGE A TIME AND PLACE FOR
PICK UP- AND THEN. THAT'S A
DIFFERENT CONVERSATION WE HAVE
WITH THE MOVER AFTER ABOUT IF WE
SAW ANYTHING THAT MAY BE A
VIOLATION OF THE MAX FORTERRA-
OR OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE-
BUT AND THEN THERE ADDITIONAL
MEMBERS WHO YOU JUST CAN'T FIND
ANYMORE. AND THEN WE START
PLAYING MYSTERY GAME ONE OF THE
RECENT ONES WE'VE DONE WE FOUND
A STORAGE FACILITY IN
VICTORVILLE WHERE WE WERE ABLE
TO REUNITE. SIXTY CONSUMERS WITH
THEIR CODES- YEAH IN IN IT'S
SORT OF A- BIT OF AN
INVESTIGATIVE PUZZLED BECAUSE
WHILE YOU HAVE SOME CONSUMERS
WHO HAVE COME FORWARD YOU HAVE
OTHERS. WE ARE GOING THROUGH
FAMILY ALBUMS TRYING TO- FIND.
WHO THE INDIVIDUAL WAS- A LOT OF
THESE PEOPLE MAY HAVE MOVED OUT
OF STATE- AND IT DOES TAKE A
COUPLE OF MONTHS- AND THANKFULLY
WE'VE GOTTEN. SOME REALLY GOOD
PARTNERSHIP WITH A LOT OF
STORAGE FACILITIES THROUGHOUT
THE STATE TO BE PATIENT TO HOLD
IT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO.
ESSENTIALLY PAIR UP THESE
CONSUMERS MY FINAL QUESTION IS.
IF ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE
LICENSE IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR
FORM. HOW QUICKLY YOU GO IN
THERE AND TAKE ACTION REMOVE
THEM. FROM THE PUBLIC- SO
THEY'RE NO LONGER DAMAGING AND
WELL LICENSE REMOVAL FINES- EVEN
WORKING WITH THE DA'S OFFICE.
PROSECUTE I'M TALKING ABOUT THE
REALLY- GREGIS- THINGS THAT ARE
DONE SAYS SOME OF THESE
FAMILIES. SO IT THE MOST EXTREME
EXAMPLE WE HAVE WE PARTNERED
WITH THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION- AND THAT CASE IS
ONGOING AT THE MOMENT- BUT
THERE'S SERIOUS ACTION HAPPENING
THE FEDERAL LEVEL- IN ADDITION.
THERE'S PARTS OF THAT CASE
CENTER IN OREGON AS WELL AS
HERE- AND THAT'S AN ONGOING
CONVERSATION WITH ESSENTIALLY MY
FEDERAL COUNTERPART WHICH IS
KNOWN AS THE FEDERAL MOTOR I'M
SAFETY ADMINISTRATION FMCSA AS
FOR OUT THE C. I'M APOLOGIZE.
BUT FMCSA IS ESSENTIALLY MY
FEDERAL COUNTERPART AND WE HAVE
A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM ON THAT
PARTICULAR AGREE JUST CASE. BUT
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT IS WHAT
THE BUREAU IS WORKING ON- AGAIN
WE'RE WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL
AT CITATIONS MINOR OFFENSES. MY
ROLE IN THE COMING YEARS IS
REALLY TO INCREASE OUR
DISCIPLINARY ACTION SEEKING
REVOCATIONS TAKING
ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION WORKING
WITH DA'S OFFICES- FOR CRIMINAL
VIOLATIONS AND THAT IS MY
PRIORITY. GOOD IN THE FUTURE TO
SENATORS JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT
I'M AVERAGE NUMBER OF DAYS FOR
INVESTIGATIONS IS A HUNDRED AND
FORTY DAYS RIGHT NOW- AND THAT'S
FOR ALL CASES NO MATTER WHAT IT
WOULD BE AND- WE DON'T HAVE IT
ALL THE WAY THROUGH PRIVATE
PROSECUTION BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T
GOT TO THAT STAGE YET. BUT
THAT'S WHAT IT IS FOR
INVESTIGATION THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SENATE SMALL WOULD QUIT.
THANK YOU- MISTER CHAIR A AND
THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION
THAT YOU'RE YOU PROVIDED ON ON
FROM YOUR ROLE- I. HAVE A
QUESTION ABOUT HOW. THE BUREAU
TRACKS THINGS LIKE LABOR
VIOLATIONS FOR YOUR LICENSEES-
IN MY EXPERIENCE OF WORKING IN
LABOR AND COMMUNITY. WORK WHEN
YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYER. THAT IS-
COMMITTING WAGE THEFT THEY
TYPICALLY ARE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED
IN A LOT OF OTHER VIOLATIONS-
AND SO YOU'RE YOU TALK ABOUT
MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER
VIOLATIONS BUT I WONDER. YOU
KNOW HOW DO YOU TRACK IN AND
ADDRESS THOSE SORTS OF WAGE AND
PAY AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I'VE
WORKED WITH MOVERS. WHO DID THE
WORK AND THEN AT THE- END OF THE
DAY THEY DIDN'T GET. THE WAGES
THAT WERE WERE PROMISED SO- JUST
COULD YOU SHARE HOW HOW THAT
WORKS. CERTAINLY WHAT I WOULD
SAY IS AT THE MOMENT WHAT WE
TRACK BETTER WOULD BE WORKERS
COMPENSATION VIOLATIONS- AND
THAT'S BECAUSE- WE WORK WITH A
LOT OF LOCAL DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
OFFICES- BUT ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE
LOOKING AT THAT ANGLE OF. THERE
ARE EMPLOYEES ON SITE BECAUSE-
IT'S INCREDIBLY RARE FOR MOVER
TO BE WORKING ALONE THAT'S JUST
NOT THE KIND OF WORK YOU CAN DO
YOUR YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE
EMPLOYEES- WE WORK WITH LOCAL
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OFFICES- AND
THAT'S HOW WE SORT OF. ENTER
THAT PARTNERSHIP IS SEEKING
WORKERS COMP VIOLATIONS WITH
REGARDS TO LABOR VIOLATIONS- I
DO PLAN TO SPEAK WITH MY SISTER
STATE AGENCIES THE I. R. BUT I
HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET. YEAH AND
IN IN THE WORKERS COMP AND I'M
GLAD YOU'RE GOING TO TALK TO THE
I. R. ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK
THAT'S- IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING
TO TRACK AND PARTICULARLY WHEN
YOU YOU MENTIONED NO ONE MOVER
DOES THIS WORK BY THEMSELVES-
AND THE WORK WAS COULD YOU
PROVIDE. INFORMATION IS OLD AS A
LICENSEE REQUIRED TO INFORM
WORKERS ABOUT THOSE PROTECTIONS
AND LAWS- AS PART OF YOUR
OVERSIGHT. AND WITHOUT ALSO
EXTEND ONCE YOU'RE DONE WITH
YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE I.
R. TO ENSURING THAT. THE WORKERS
ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE WHAT
THE PROTECTIONS ARE AND HOW TO
ADDRESS- SOME VIOLATION THAT MAY
OCCUR. ON THE JOB. GOT IT WITH
MY PARTICULAR OVERSIGHT THERE
WOULDN'T BE A LOT OF
COMMUNICATION WITH EMPLOYEES BUT
THE DIALOGUE I HOPE TO HAVE WITH
THE I. R. IS WHERE WE CAN
ESTABLISH THAT- IF THERE'S-
PRESSURES THAT I CAN HAND OUT-
WELL WE'RE DOING THE SORTS OF
ACTIONS WITH. DA'S OFFICES I'M
PERFECTLY HAPPY TO DO- DO THAT I
LACK THE EXPERTISE- BUT I'M
HAPPY TO PUT THEM IN CONTACT
WITH SOMEONE THEY WHERE THEY CAN
HAVE A CONVERSATION OF THAT
NATURE- THAT YEAH. I MEAN IT
JUST SEEMS THAT AS CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS PART OF. THE
OPPORTUNITY OF THESE INDUSTRIES
IS THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING
RESOURCES TO HELP. TO SUPPORT
COMMUNITY AND- WHEN THERE ARE
VIOLATIONS WITHIN THAT SECTOR. I
THINK THAT OVERSIGHT SHOULD
EXTEND TO MAKING SURE THAT THE
EMPLOYEES AND THE WORKERS ARE
PROTECTED AND HAVE THAT
INFORMATION SO PLEASE IS THERE A
WAY TO GET BACK TO US ON HOW THE
OUTCOME OF THOSE. CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE I. R. HAPPEN AND HOW WE
CAN INFORMED ON ON HOW YOU WILL
INCORPORATE THAT INTO YOUR WORK
MOVING FORWARD. ABSOLUTELY I'LL
MAKE SURE THAT STAFF IS AWARE
WHEN I'M SCHEDULE THAT- AS WELL
AS THE OUTCOME AFTER I'VE MATH.
AND SENATE I THINK IT WOULD BE
JUST FROM HEARING YOU I THINK
ANOTHER GOOD THING IS THAT THEIR
WEBSITE. IS A GREAT RESOURCE AND
IT'S NOT JUST RESOURCE FOR
CONSUMERS BUT ALSO LICENSEES AND
INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY WORK FOR
THOSE COMPANIES SO IF WE CAN PUT
CONTACTS FOR. YOU KNOW THAT THE
I. R. AND WORKERS COMP EVEN ON
THEIR WEBSITE LIKE AS A
QUICKLINK THAT WOULD HELP THEM
GET THE INFORMATION THEY NEED SO
WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL YEAH I
APPRECIATE THAT AND DIRECTION
AIRING. RESOURCE RIGHT IT JUST
PROTECTS AGAINST LIABILITY- IN
IN THAT SPACE SO THANK YOU FOR
THAT. THANK YOU SENATOR ASSEMBLY
MEMBER COREY JACKSON. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH MISTER- OBVIOUSLY YOU
HAVE AN INTERNAL PERFORMANCE
TARGET OF THIRTY DAYS- TO BE
ABLE TO. COMPLETE THE
APPLICATION PROCESS- KNOW THAT
YOU'RE WORKING ON A- COUPLE OF
THINGS INCREASING STAFF AND ALL
THOSE THINGS- DO YOU HAVE WHAT
YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO- MAKE
THAT THIRTY DAY- PERFORMANCE
TARGET. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS
WE'RE CONSISTENTLY MEETING THAT
PERFORMANCE TARGET FOR
ELECTRONIC APPLIANCE REPAIR AND
HOME FURNISHINGS AND THERMAL
INSULATION. WHEN IT COMES TO
HOUSEHOLD MOVERS THAT GETS
TRICKIER BECAUSE OF THE NATURE
OF THE APPLICATION- IN THERE-
IT'S A IT'S A FAR MORE DETAILED
APPLICATION. ONE OF THE ISSUES
THAT WE FRIENDLY COMEDIAN IT
THANKFULLY AT THAT COMMITTEES
ALSO WRITTEN ABOUT- IS SOME OF
THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES THAT
CAN BE A BIT CONFUSING. IN
ADDITION THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE
TAKEN EXAM- IN THESE INDIVIDUALS
ARE FINGERPRINTED- AND- IN THE
INITIAL APPLICATION PHASE THERE
IS TYPICALLY A KIND OF BACK AND
FORTH. YOU'RE MISSING THIS PIECE
OF INFORMATION WE NEED THAT- BUT
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS. WHEN THE
APPLICATION IS ESSENTIALLY IN
THE STAFF'S HANDS- I'D HAVE TO
TRACK IT BUT I I'M FAIRLY
CONFIDENT WE'RE WE'RE FAIRLY
QUICK WITH THAT. SO DOES THAT
CONSTITUTE A NEED TO CHANGE YOUR
INTERNAL PERFORMANCE ON THAT
PARTICULAR APPLICATION PROCESS
OR YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT. IT IS
SUFFICIENT TO KEEP IT AT THIRTY
DAYS I AT WHAT LET ME UNDERLINE
I BELIEVE IT'S SUFFICIENT BUT
IT'S ALSO I AM REALLY EXCITED
ABOUT THE CONNECT SYSTEM THAT I
REFERENCE WHICH IS OUR I. T.
SYSTEM BECAUSE THE- ITEM THEN I
CAN ACTUALLY SEE. OKAY HOW FOR
LACK OF A BETTER TERM HOW LONG
WAS THE HOT POTATO ON OUR PLATE
VERSUS THE APPLICANTS PLATE- SO
WE NEED A PARTICULAR DOCUMENT
THEY TOOK A WEEK TO GET BACK TO
US- VERSUS OKAY THE MINUTE WE
GOT THAT DOCUMENT BACK HOW MANY
DAYS IT TAKE US TO PROCESS IT TO
MOVE THE APPLICATION TO THE NEXT
STEP. THAT'S THE CAN ACCESS THEM
GONNA BE ABLE TO SHOW ME THAT.
YOU PEOPLE STILL PLAY HOT
POTATO. I DO NOT HAVE. SORRY
THAT THAT WAS AN EXTRA QUESTION-
MIGHT BITE NEXT REAL QUESTION
IS- IN REGARDS TO. THE
EXAMINATION BEING OFFERED IN
ENGLISH ONLY. AND OF COURSE YOU-
PROVIDE INTERPRETERS FOR THAT TO
HAPPEN BUT HAVE WE- DONE ANY-
EXAMINATION OF FEEDBACK FROM
THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN IT IN A
DIFFERENT. WHO SPEAK A DIFFERENT
LANGUAGE IS THAT SUFFICIENT
SHOULD WE ACTUALLY BE OFFERING
IT IN OTHER LANGUAGES. SINCE
CALIFORNIA'S POPULATION IS. SO
DIVERSE. IT'S AN INTERESTING
QUESTION I WOULD SAY BECAUSE
WE'RE CURRENTLY STILL
IMPLEMENTING THE HOUSEHOLD
MOVERS PROGRAM IT WOULD IT WOULD
BE A QUESTION WHEN ASKING A YEAR
TO. BUT WHAT I WOULD ALSO POINT
OUT IS THAT. OUR OUR EXAM VENDOR
IS KNOWN AS PSI EXAMS. AND WE
DON'T OFFER- THE TRANSLATOR
YOU'RE ABLE TO PICK A
TRANSLATOR. SO ANY INDIVIDUAL-
TYPICALLY TO FAMILY MEMBER
THAT'S OVER EIGHTEEN THAT HAS AN
ID- AND S. THEY JUST HAVE TO
PROMISE NOT TO APPLY WITH US FOR
ONE YEAR AND THEY SERVICE YOUR
TRANSLATOR ON TEST DAY- FOR THAT
SPECIFIC EXAM. HOWEVER I KNOW
THAT OTHER DC ENTITIES ARE
LOOKING TO TRANSLATE IN THE
EXAM- AND I'M HAPPY TO GO DOWN
THAT ROUTE AS WELL I WOULD JUST
ASK A BIT MORE TIME IS WERE
IMPLEMENTING OTHER ASPECTS OF
THE HOUSEHOLD MOVERS PROGRAM
STILL. AND WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE
YOU USING TO DETERMINE WHETHER
THAT CHANGE IS NECESSARY. HEY IT
WOULD ACTUALLY BE FEEDBACK FROM
EXAMINEES SO ANYONE WHO IS
IDENTIFIED AS BEING A TRANSLATOR
WHAT I WANT TO DO SURVEYS TYPE
OF THING TRYING TO GET THEIR
OPINION ON THE PROCESS. THAT'S
EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD DO- HE AG
AGAIN I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC
TRANSLATOR NUMBERS IN FRONT OF
ME ROUGHLY ABOUT A HUNDRED AND
TWENTY PEOPLE ARE TAKING AN EXAM
A YEAR- SO IT'S RELATIVELY EASY
FOR ME. TO JUST BASICALLY TO A
FOLLOW UP CALL AFTERWARDS I'M
ONCE I'M IN THAT SPACE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH MEASURE. THANK YOU
SIR- LET ME THANK YOU FOR YOUR
I. T. IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ONE OF
MY FRUSTRATIONS IN THIS
POSITION. IS WE SEE A LOT OF
BOARDS AND BUREAUS AND- THE
SYSTEMS ACROSS THE BOARD FRANKLY
YOU'RE NOT REALLY. IS DETAILS I
WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE SO WE CAN
TRACK PROCESSING OF SUCH THINGS
AS APPLICATIONS AND FIND OUT
WHERE LOGJAMS ARE. WE GET A
REPORT THAT SAYS WELL FROM THE
TIME THE APPLICATION IS
COMPLETED AT TEXAS YOU KNOW TEN
DAYS TO DO X. Y. AND SEE. WHAT
WE DON'T KNOW FROM THAT IS WHAT
HAPPENS FROM THE DAY THAT THE-
APPLICANT. SINCE THE FIRST PIECE
OF PAPER AND HOW LONG IT TAKES
AT VARIOUS STAGES BECAUSE WE
KNOW THAT THEIR STAGES FROM THE
FIRST PIECE OF PAPER TO THE TIME
THE APPLICATION GETS COMPLETE.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE VISIBILITY
OVER THE PROCESS AND IT SOUNDS
LIKE YOUR SYSTEM IS GOING TO
PROVIDE VISIBILITY OVER THE
PROCESS. SO MAYBE WE CAN TAKE
YOU IN CLONE YOU. ON A FEW OF
THE OTHER BOARDS AND BUREAUS
THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS HERE.
HAPPY TO DO THAT SIR. COLLEAGUES
WEEK WE CLONE VERY WELL.
COLLEAGUES ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
THIS YEAR I JUST HAVE ONE
CLARIFYING QUESTION IN YOUR-
SERVICE- SECTOR- WORK G. ARE YOU
ALL WHERE- HOME WARRANTY
SERVICES ACTUALLY COME TO YOU.
TO GET THEIR LICENSE AND TO
PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT THEY
PROVIDE. YES PREDOMINATELY IT'S
TO ME- AND THAT'S KNOWN AS A
SERVICE CONTRACT THERE ARE A FEW
HOME WARRANTY PLANS WHICH WOULD
WOULD GO TO A DIFFERENT ENTITY.
BUT MOST OFTEN NINE TIMES OUT OF
TEN WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO
WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT
IT IS COMING TO ME AND THE
REGISTRY IS WHAT'S CALLED A
SERVICE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR
IF THEY'RE OFFERING THE PLAN. IF
THEY'RE SELLING THE PLAN THEN
THE REGISTERED WITH ME AS A
SERVICE CONTRACT SELLER. THE
REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION AND
THIS CAME OUT OF A CONVERSATION
WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
IN MY DISTRICT IN THE VIEW PARK
BALLWIN HILLS AREA WHERE THERE
ARE NUMBER OF. LOCAL PLUMBERS
AND- HOME REPAIR ROOFERS THAT
ARE IN YOU KNOW COMMUNITIES THAT
ARE ARE LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS-
BUT HOMEOWNERS JUST THE SAME
AND- A LOT OF THE SERVICE
PROVIDERS. ARE NOT PRACTICING
DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION
IN TERMS OF WHO THEY ARE
CONTRACTING WITH TO PROVIDE
THOSE SERVICES PARTICULARLY. IN
THAT COMMUNITY DO YOU ALL HAVE A
POLICY AROUND DIVERSITY
INCLUSION OF CONTRACTORS WHO
WOULD BE PART OF THESE HOME
WARRANTY- PROGRAMS AND HOW DO
YOU CHECK THAT WHAT IS THE WAY
THAT YOU WORK WITH THOSE-
SERVICE PROVIDERS CONTENT
PROVIDERS HOW DO YOU WORK WITH
THEM IN IN SHORE- THAT THERE IS
NO EXCLUSION OF CONTRACTORS-
PARTICIPATING IN THERE ARE
PROGRAMS. BUT IN CERTAIN
COMMUNITIES AND ZIP CODES. WHAT
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS BECAUSE WERE
THE REGULATOR ONE. EIGHT WE'RE
ESSENTIALLY WAITING FOR AN
APPLICANT TO REGISTER WITH US-
WHO IS GOING TO PROVIDE THOSE
SERVICES- SO WE WOULDN'T DO AN
ANALYSIS OF THAT TYPE HOWEVER. I
THINK WHAT I WOULD WANT TO
REFERENCE HERE IS THE DEPARTMENT
OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS- IS ACTUALLY
STARTING- I. D. I. INITIATIVE.
WHICH IS LOOKING AT DOING SOME
EXPANSION IN OUR- ESSENTIALLY
WORKPLACE INCLUSION DOING
TRAINING FOR OUR ALL OF OUR
STAFF AS WELL AS- ESSENTIALLY
OBTAIN OUR COMMUNICATIONS PLAN
AND THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING
WE WOULD LOOK AT- BUT AGAIN A IT
WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE OUR
EVALUATION OF AN EXISTING
REGISTRANT- THAT WHO CHOOSES TO
REGISTER WITH US WE DON'T HAVE
CONTROL OVER AND IF THE
CONTRACTOR OR COMPANY WAS
DENIED. OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART
OF A SERVICE CONTRACT WITH THEY
CONTACT YOU IS THAT INFORMATION
MADE AVAILABLE. RIGHT TERMS OF
SO OF A SERVICE CONTRACTORS
EXCLUDING CONTRACTORS BASED ON
RACE GENDER. WHATEVER IT IS WITH
DATE COULD THEY COME TO YOU AND
LARGE THAT. CONCERN I THINK FOR
THE MOST PART IT WOULD BE A
CIVIL MATTER I'M IT WOULD NOT BE
SOMETHING THAT COMES TO ME- YOU
DON'T TRACK THOSE SORTS OF. IT
WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE
WOULD TYPICALLY TRACK BY. IF WE
WERE TO GET SOME SORT OF CALL
LIKE THAT- WHAT ONE OF OUR
PRIMARY GOALS IS EVEN IF
SOMETHING FALLS OUTSIDE OUR
JURISDICTION WE'RE STILL TRYING
TO HELP THE CONSUMER WE'RE STILL
TRYING TO. TO MEDIATE THE ISSUE
AND GIVE THEM AS MUCH
INFORMATION AS WE COULD. MY GAS
BUT I THINK THE FACTS WOULD
REALLY DICTATED IS I WOULD I
WOULD ADVISE THEM A SORT OF
THEIR CIVIL REMEDIES- BUT I
WOULD REALLY NEED TO SEE THE
SPECIFICS ON A CASE BY CASE
BASIS. OKAY WHAT WILL FOLLOW UP
AND OKAY AND FIND OUT MORE ABOUT
HOW TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO
DIRECT THOSE KINDS OF CONCERNS
OKAY THINGS. THE FINANCIAL YEAH
OF I'M THINKING OF THE SEVERITY
OF THE ISSUE. AN AMBER I'M
LOOKING HERE. THE VIOLATION IN
THE PENALTY IS AT TWENTY FIVE
HUNDRED DOLLARS AYE SHE'S THAT
MAX. FIVE ROWS ALL MEMBERS. YES
I'M- IT DEPENDS YOU CAN ACTUALLY
EIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO MISS
QUOTE MYSELF SO ALL I'LL PUT AN
ASTERISK. IN CERTAIN INSTANCES
IT CAN BE TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.
BUT THE MOST EGREGIOUS THING
HERE IS. YOU ALSO HAVE TO
REMEMBER ITS ACCOUNTS. SO FOR
EXAMPLE IF I FIND INDIVIDUAL
WHO'S JUST DONE ONE BAD THING.
THAT I FIND THAT ALMOST VERY
SUSPICIOUS I'D BE LOOKING FOR
OTHER CUSTOMERS SO THAT I IT
THAT TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS
CAN ADD UP PRETTY QUICKLY. OKAY
BASED ON THE COUNCIL VIOLATIONS
YEAH. I REALLY REALLY THINK THAT
YOU HAVE TO REALIZE YOU'RE THE
PROTECTOR. OF THE CONSUMER. AND
IT WHATEVER PUNITIVE ACTION
COULD TAKE. IS FOR THE OVERALL
PROTECTION. AND I THINK IT'LL-
WITH A LARGE MOVING COMPANY. TO
BE FIND A MERE TEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS- WHEN THEY'RE MAKING
MILLIONS OVER THE YEARS. I THINK
YOU CAN DIP I WE ALL NEED TO
TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT. THE
ONE THING I WOULD HIGHLIGHT IS
THAT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDY
THE HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS ACT ALLOWS
US TO PARTNER WITH LOCAL
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OFFICES FOR
CRIMINAL- AND SO. IF YOU'RE
LOOKING AT REALLY EGREGIOUS ACTS
WERE TALKING MUCH JAIL TIME.
OKAY GOOD GO GET A- THANK YOU A
CENTER COLLEAGUES ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. OKAY
LET'S TURN TO MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WILL NOW ACCEPT TESTIMONY
FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. THIS
IS THE BUREAU OF HOUSEHOLD GOODS
AND SERVICES LET'S BEGIN WITH
ANY WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY ONE HUNDRED SIR PLEASE
STEP UP GIVE US YOUR NAME AND
AFFILIATION PLEASE YEAH GOOD
AFTERNOON I'M STEVE Y. DE CAMP.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE
CALIFORNIA MOVING AND STORAGE
ASSOCIATION. WERE A HUNDRED AND
FIVE YEAR OLD TRADE ASSOCIATION.
THAT REPRESENTS LICENSE IN
PERMITTED MOVERS AS WELL AS
HELPING CONSUMERS MAKE. UP
PRUDENT AND EDUCATED DECISIONS
IN THE SELECTION OF A MOVER.
WE'RE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE
BUREAU. THE BUREAU HAS REGULATED
US FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
PRIOR TO THAT WE WERE WITH THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION FOR
OVER SEVENTY. SO I'M STILL A
LITTLE SHELL SHOCKED FROM THAT
EXPERIENCE. BUT I WOULD TELL YOU
THAT THE BUREAU HAS BEEN VERY
RESPONSIVE AND PROACTIVE IN
EVERYTHING THAT WE LOOK FOR AND-
BEFORE I TALK ABOUT ANY
INDIVIDUAL ISSUES. I HAVE TO
COMMENT. THAT I'VE BEEN IN THE
MOVING AND STORAGE SPACE IN
CALIFORNIA FOR FORTY FIVE YEARS.
AND I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE
VERY VAST MAJORITY OF THE
PROBLEMS LIE WITH THE UNLICENSED
AND ILLEGAL OPERATORS. THAT
THERE'S VERY FEW COMPANIES THAT
HAVE MADE A MILLION DOLLARS
LEGALLY THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING
OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS IN FACT I
CONDUCTS SEMINARS. ON A REGULAR
BASIS THESE PEOPLE CALM I DO
EDUCATIONAL TRAINING. TO BOTH.
THE STATE AND MY MEMBERS. ON THE
RULES AND REGULATIONS AND WE
TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. AND WE
SUPPORT THE LICENSE COMMUNITY
AND THE REGULATION OF THIS
INDUSTRY SO I WOULD TELL YOU
THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING
DAMAGE. TO THE CONSUMERS THROUGH
THE REGULATED INDUSTRY INTO THE
TAXPAYERS A STATE ARE THE PEOPLE
THAT HAVE YET TO GET INVOLVED
WITH THE PERMITTING PROGRAM
BECAUSE THEY RUN COMPLETELY
UNDERGROUND. IT'S A HUGE ISSUE
IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE
BECAUSE THERE'S NO MOLD AROUND
OUR BUSINESS BUT- WE WOULD SAY
ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO TO
SUPPORT. THE REGULATORS
ACTIVITIES AND GOING AFTER THOSE
PEOPLE FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT'S
WHERE THE DAMAGES. SO WITH THAT
I WOULD TELL YOU THAT- THERE ARE
FIVE ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES THAT
I WANT TO DISCUSS OR AT LEAST
MAKE COMMENT ABOUT. AND THE
FIRST ONE IS THE FUND
CONSOLIDATION AND LIMITED FEE
INCREASES. I JUST WANT TO SAY.
THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
IN COOPERATION WITH THE BUREAU
ON LANGUAGE AND THE DETAILS TO
MAKE THIS ITEM WORKABLE. FOR
BOTH THE STATE THE BUREAU AND
PERMITTED MOVERS- THE NEXT ISSUE
WHICH YOU HAVE LISTED AS ISSUE
NUMBER FIVE IS AN APPLE LICENSE-
FOR OUT OF STATE. ALSO GOOD
MOVERS AGAIN WE WANT TO WORK
WITH THE BUREAU ON LANGUAGE
THERE'S A LOOK IT ALL IT'S ALL
IN THE DETAILS. YOU KNOW WE HAVE
THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ENFORCEMENT
PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY EVEN THE
FEDS DON'T HAVE AS GOOD A
PROGRAM THAT'S CALIFORNIA
CURRENTLY HAS. AND WE DON'T WANT
TO SEE THAT DETERIORATE BY.
ALLOWING PEOPLE TO OPERATE
WITHOUT ANY CONTROLS SO MANY NEW
PEOPLE THAT COME IN AN
INTERSTATE SIDE PROJECT FOR
INTERSTATE WORK. NEED TO BE. A
PART OF THE PROGRAM IN SOME
FASHION AND WE WILL PAY PART OF
THAT. WE GIVE LISTENERS ITEM SIX
IS A LICENSING OF LIMITED
LIABILITY COMPANIES WE ARE 1100%
IN SUPPORT OF THAT. THAT EXIST
CURRENTLY FOR PEOPLE LICENSE
HISTORICALLY A GOOD NUMBER OF
THEM ARE L. L. C.'S IT IS A VERY
COMMON METHOD FOR PEOPLE TO.
DEAL WITH THEIR BUSINESSES AND
WE CAN CURRENT THAT THERE SHOULD
BE AN UNBLOCKED PATH FOR L. L.
C.'S WHO AT LEAST APPLY TO
BECOME PERMITTED MOVERS- NUMBER
ELEVEN THE AUTHORITY TO AUTO
SUSPEND HOUSEHOLD MOVERS- WE
DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH THE
BUREAU AND THAT. THERE HAS BEEN
I. T. ISSUES THAT WOULD MAKE
THAT A PROBLEM UP TO DATE. I'VE
BEEN TOLD THAT THOSE ITEMS ARE
BEING RESOLVED. IF THEY ARE WE
WOULD HAVE SOME COMFORT WITH
THAT. AND THE FINAL ITEMS. I
WOULD DISCUSS WOULD BE TO REMOVE
HOUSE WILL GOOD MOVERS FINANCIAL
REQUIREMENTS THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE
YES I DON'T KNOW THAT WHEN THE
LAST TIME. THIS WAS ACTUALLY
DONE I MEAN IT'S IN THE RULES
AND REGULATIONS BUT I KNOW THAT
NEITHER THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION NOR THE BUREAU HAVE
THE RESOURCES TO DEDICATE.
ECONOMIST THE CHECK PEOPLE'S
ABILITY TO OPERATE A BUSINESS
FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME SO I
THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE
AWAY WITH. WITHOUT THAT
CONCLUDES MY REMARKS IF THERE'S
ANY WAY THAT CAN BE SUPPORTED DO
YOU OR YOUR STAFF IN THIS
PROCESS. I WOULD MAKE MYSELF
AVAILABLE THANK YOU THANK YOU
BECOME ANSWER THANKS FOR TAKING
THE TIME TO BE WITH US ANY OTHER
PUBLIC COME IN ROOM TWENTY ONE
HUNDRED. OKAY SEEING NONE LET'S
MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA THE TELECONFERENCE
ORVIS MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE. PROMPT ANY SUCH
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT. ABOUT THE BUREAU
OF HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND SERVICES
WE WILL BEGIN WITH THEM. THANK
YOU SHARED IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK
ON THIS PRODUCT PLEASE PRESS ONE
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. JUST
MOMENTS HERE. ONE ZERO AT THIS
TIME. MR WE HAVE KNOWN EACH YEAR
AT THIS TIME THAT IS FINE
BECAUSE COLLEAGUES ANY OTHER.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS NO
QUESTIONS BUT COMMENTS ABOUT THE
BUREAU OF HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND
SERVICES THINK. YES MA'AM. I
JUST HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION
TO ONE OF THE SPEAKERS. FOR MY
OWN EDIFICATION BUT WHICH THE
PANELISTS MEMBER OF ONE OF THE
PUBLIC SPEAK WE DON'T WILL
ALWAYS WE DON'T DO QUESTIONS NO
I KNOW BUT I IT SPURRED MY
QUESTION. YOU CAN ASK THE
QUESTION BUT IT YOU'LL NOT HAVE
NO NOTED I'LL JUST LAST YOU FOR
THE ANSWER- WHAT. WHAT WHAT WHAT
WHAT DO WE DO FOR THE UNLICENSED
. PORTION OF THE INDUSTRY THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE WILL ALL GET
TO. DEBATE AND DISCUSS DURING
THE SUNSET REVIEW PROCESS THE
SUNSET REVIEW PROCESS RESULTS.
IN A BILL- PRESENTED IN BOTH THE
ASSEMBLY IN THE SENATE TO NOT
ONLY IN THIS CASE EXTEND THE
BUREAU BUT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO
THE- ACT THAT THE BUREAU
OPERATES UNDER AND SO IF THAT'S
AN ISSUE OF CONCERN THAT
SOMETHING CERTAINLY SOMETHING.
YOU SHOULD BRING FORWARD WE
SHOULD. WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT
AND- SEE HOW IT FITS INTO OUR
OVERALL EFFORTS- VERY GOOD THANK
YOU NO PROBLEM. LET'S MOVE NOW
TO THE PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARIES
BUREAU AND WE WILL HEAR AGAIN
FROM. KIMBERLY KIRCH MEYER THE
DIRECTOR. AND REBEKAH MAY BUREAU
CHIEF.
PLEASE PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY
. I DON'T THINK I NEED TO SAY
GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. GIVE THAT
AND WILL COME BACK. BUT I WOULD
LIKE TO ACTUALLY THANK YOU AGAIN
FOR YOUR STAFF'S HARD WORK AND
PREPARATION- AS EVIDENCE THAT BY
THE- HEARING TODAY AND JUST BY
THE GREAT MATERIALS THAT HAVE
BEEN PUT TOGETHER ESPECIALLY ON
THE SPIRO THAT. SOMETIMES CAN BE
VERY COMPLICATED. SO ESTABLISHED
IN TWO THOUSAND SIX THE BUREAU
LICENSES AND REGULATES
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARIES WHO ARE
NON FAMILY MEMBER GUARDIANS
CONSERVATORS TRUSTEES AGENTS OF
DURABLE POWER FOR HEALTH CARE
AND OR FINANCES AND PERSONAL
REPRESENTATIVE OF A DECEDENT'S
ESTATE. SINCE THE BUREAU'S LAST
SUNSET REVIEW IT COMPLETED A NEW
STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE FALL OF
TWENTY TWENTY TWO THAT SPANS
FROM TWENTY TWENTY THREE TO
TWENTY TWENTY SIX. THE BUREAU
HAS ALSO COMPLETED SIX
REGULATION PACKAGES SINCE THE
LAST SUNSET INCLUDING CODIFYING
NEW CULTURAL COMPETENCY
EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND
ESTABLISHING CRITERIA FOR
LICENSE THE NILES AND
REHABILITATION. I'M HAPPY TO
REPORT THAT THE BUREAU'S
APPLICATION PROCESSING TIME HAS
DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE
ITS LAST SUNSET FROM FIFTY DAYS
FOR COMPLETION OF APPLICATIONS.
IN SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN TO
THIRTEEN DAYS IN TWENTY ONE
TWENTY TWO THE DECREASE IN
PROCESSING TIME AS A RESULT OF
THE BUREAU'S INCREASED USE THAT
EMAIL TO COMMUNICATE WITH
APPLICANTS AND LICENSEES. AND
THESE ARE JUST A FEW OTHER
STRIDES THE BUREAU HAS MADE
SINCE THE LAST SUNSET REVIEW.
HERE WITH ME TO TALK ABOUT THE
BUREAU AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
YOU MAY HAVE HIS BILL CHEAPER
BACK IN MAY AND THAT THIS HIM
SHE'S GOING TO CONTINUE WITH
SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE-
THANK YOU PLEASE PROCEED. THANK
YOU DIRECTOR KIRK MAIER GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR ROTH CHAIRMAN
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS A
DIRECTOR STATED MY NAME IS
REBECCA MAY AND I'M THE BUREAU
CHIEF OF THE PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARIES BUREAU THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK WITH YOU
TODAY. PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARY
LICENSEES PROVIDE ESSENTIAL
SERVICES TO SENIORS PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES AND CHILDREN
ENSURING DATA DAY PERSONAL NEEDS
ARE MET. AND PROVIDING ESTATE
MANAGEMENT A PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARY MAKES DECISIONS ON
BEHALF OF THEIR CLIENT AND HAS A
RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE
APPROPRIATE AND ADEQUATE CARE IS
PROVIDED. THE BEER IS THE FORTY
IS LIMITED TO THE LICENSURE AND
REGULATION OF PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARIES ONLY IT DOES NOT
HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE A
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARY FROM AN
APPOINTED POSITION SUCH AS
CONSERVATOR. OR TRUSTEE OR TO
ALTER THE TERMS OF THOSE
APPOINTMENTS. THE BUREAU ALSO
DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY DOES
NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OVER THE
PROBATE COURT OR THE PUBLIC
GUARDIAN. PLEASE ALLOW ME TO
SHARE SOME OF THE BUREAU'S
SUCCESSES SINCE ITS LAST SUNSET
REVIEW. AS A DIRECTOR SHARED THE
BUREAU HAS SUCCESSFULLY
PROMULGATED SEVERAL REGULATIONS
MOST NOTABLY ESTABLISHING A
RETIRED AND AN ACTIVE LICENSE
STATUS. THE BEER BEGAN OFFERING
RETIRED IN AN ACTIVE LICENSE
STATUSES TO LICENSEES TO QUALIFY
IN JANUARY. THE BUREAU HAS ALSO
IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL EFFICIENCIES
RESULTING IN LOWER PROCESSING
TIMES FOR APPLICATIONS AND
RENEWALS. IMPLEMENTATION OF AB.
ELEVEN CHANGES TO THE
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARIES ACT IS
ALSO UNDERWAY. AB ELEVEN NINETY
FOUR REQUIRES THE BUREAU TO
SANCTION LICENSEES UNDER CERTAIN
SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES. AND
REQUIRES LICENSEES TO PROVIDE
THEIR FEE SCHEDULES UPON REQUEST
OR ON THEIR WEBSITES BUREAU
STAFF HAVE CONTACTED ALL FIFTY
EIGHT COUNTY COURTS TO REMIND
THEM OF THE NEW REQUIREMENTS AND
TO ESTABLISH COMMUNICATIONS THAT
THE COURTS WILL BEGIN TO NOTIFY.
THE BUREAU OF SANCTIONS LEVIED
AGAINST LICENSEES. THE BUREAU
HAS ALSO DONE OUTREACH ABOUT THE
NEW REQUIREMENTS REGARDING
POSTING THE FEE SCHEDULES I AM
PLEASED TO REPORT THAT SENDING
NONCOMPLIANCE LETTERS TO
LICENSEES WERE NOT POSTED FEE
SCHEDULES TO THEIR WEBSITES A
RISK RESULTED IN MOST THEM
QUICKLY COMING INTO COMPLIANCE.
THOUGH THE BUREAU IS VERY
LIMITED IN STAFFING AND
FINANCIAL RESOURCES THE SMALL
AND MIGHTY TEAM IS HARD WORKING
AND DETERMINED TO PROTECT OUR
MOST VULNERABLE CONSUMERS. I'M
HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU MS MAKE ONE OF
MONEY JUST KICK IT OFF ONE OF
THE QUESTIONS THAT COMES
IMMEDIATELY TO MIND IN REVIEWING
THE BACKGROUNDER- THE QUESTION
CENTERS AROUND THE- THE FUND
BALANCE IN THE RESERVE ACCOUNT.
OF THAT THIS PARTICULAR BUREAU-
CONTINUES TO EXIST WITH AN-
NEGATIVE THREE POINT TWO MONTHS
AND RESERVE. WHICH- THERE'S A
LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN. GIVEN
THE LICENSE FEES NOW. WHAT DO
YOU HOW DO YOU VIEW THE LONG
TERM VIABILITY IN TERMS OF
FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF THE
BUREAU AND SHOULD WE BE LOOKING
AT. COMBINING THE BUREAU WITH
ANOTHER. BORDER BUREAU- TO MAKE
IT A LITTLE EASIER TO. ATTAIN
FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY.
JENNIFER QUESTION THAT'S A VERY
FAIR QUESTION AND I APPRECIATE.
YOU ASKING HISTORICALLY THE
PUREST HAD A VERY VERY SMALL
LICENSING POPULATION AS OF TODAY
IT'S ROUGHLY EIGHT HUNDRED AND
FIFTY LICENSEES AND BECAUSE IT'S
SUCH A SMALL POPULATION. AND THE
BUREAU'S. FUNDING SOURCES
ESSENTIALLY THROUGH LICENSING
FEES THE FEES ARE HIGH THEY ARE
SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR FOR
AN ANNUAL RENEWAL. THAT BEING
SAID THESE FEES WHICH AREN'T IN
REGULATION HAVE NOT BEEN
INCREASED SINCE THE INCEPTION OF
THE BUREAU IN TWO THOUSAND AND
SEVEN YEAR OLD AND PROBLEM
ISSUING LICENSES IN TWO THOUSAND
AND EIGHT. AND THIS IS OF COURSE
DESPITE THE EVER GROWING COST OF
BUSINESSES AS EVERYONE KNOWS AS
SALARIES BENEFITS HAVE INCREASED
OVER THE YEARS PRO RATA.
RENDON'S ATTORNEY GENERAL'S FEES
OF ALL THOSE COSTS HAVE GONE UP
AND THE FEES HAVE OF NOT. AS WE
ARE WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT
TO DETERMINE A FEE INCREASE- DUE
TO AB ELEVEN NINETY FOUR BEING
PASSED IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE WERE
ANTICIPATING THAT THE WORK LOAD
IS GOING TO INCREASE
SIGNIFICANTLY FOR THE BUREAU
INCLUDING ENFORCEMENT COSTS AND
SO. IN ORDER FOR THE BUREAU TO
ADEQUATELY IMPLEMENT THE NEW
LEGISLATION WE ARE SEEKING A FEE
INCREASE AT THIS TIME. AND IN
YOUR PLANNING PROCESS IT SEEMS
TO ME YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.
FACTOR IN- THE REALITY WHICH IS
YOU CAN EXPECT EXPENSES TO
PROBABLY INCREASE. DEPENDING ON
WHERE WE ARE IN THE ECONOMY BUT
ANYWHERE FROM 3210% PER YEAR- IN
THE I GUESS THE ULTIMATE
QUESTION IS THAT TYPE OF A- OF A
FEE INCREASE WHETHER IT'S ANNUAL
OR BI ANNUAL OR EVERY FOUR OR
FIVE YEARS DISPONIBLE BY THOSE
WHO WERE. LICENSED BY U. N. WHO
DEPEND ON THE BUREAU FOR WHAT
YOU DO THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE BIG
QUESTION IS THE- PROFESSION ABLE
TO. YEAH I'M SUSTAIN ITS ITS
REGULATION AND THE FEES THEY ARE
HIGH AND THE BUREAU HAS NOT
ADVOCATED FOR RAISING THEM IN
THE IN THE PAST ACKNOWLEDGING
THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE REALITY.
AS A FEE INCREASE DOES PRESENT
THE POSSIBILITY IT WILL. PERHAPS
ENCOURAGE FOLKS THAT ARE LICENSE
NOW TO RETIRE AND OF PRESENT A
BARRIER FOR NEW FOLKS COMING
INTO THE PROFESSION OF. BUT THAT
ALSO REDUCES YOUR WILL OF
LICENSEES DOES IDENTIFY YOUR
OPERATION THERE'S- THE DILEMMA
THERE'S NO SIMPLE SOLUTION LOOK
FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU IN
THE- HEARING SOLUTIONS YOU YOU.
TOUCHED ON THE ONE MINISTER I
WANTED TO TOUCH UPON SO- I'M I'M
ALL SET SO REMEMBER JACKSON. FAR
AWAY THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR-
OBVIOUSLY OUR- POPULATION IS
AGING MORE- AND WE HAVE A- QUITE
A HUGE NUMBER OF THOSE WHO- MY
FATE IN THE CATEGORY THAT MIGHT
INCREASE WORKLOAD- YOU MENTION
AND- AB ELEVEN NINETY FOUR AS
ONE OF THE YEAR- PLUS PRESSURES.
AS WELL- ARE THERE ANY OTHER
COST PRESSURES THAT MANDATE THAT
YOU SEE FOR. COMING IN THE
FUTURE. I SUPPOSE THERE'S
ALWAYS. A CHANCE THAT NEW
STATUTES WILL COME FORWARD. WELL
THAT'S GIVE US. IT IS- RIGHT
NUMBER RIGHT NOW OKAY BUT- BUT
IN TERMS OF OBVIOUSLY. HAVING A
GROWING AGING POPULATION. DO YOU
ANTICIPATE THAT INCREASED I THE
COST PRESSURES V. THE LICENSING
POLL HAS STEADILY INCREASED BUT
IT'S JUST BEEN A SLOW RATE OF
INCREASE AND I THINK THAT THERE
ARE CERTAINLY SENIORS- ORDERED
AS THE POPULATION OF CALIFORNIA
AND AGES. THERE'S MORE NEED FOR
THIS PROFESSION. ANECDOTALLY
WHEN I TALK WITH LICENSEES STATE
THEY SOUND LIKE THEY'VE GOT
PLENTY OF WORK- I THINK THAT
THERE'S MAYBE THERE'S NOT A LOT
OF KNOWLEDGE OF THIS IS A AS A
CAREER CHOICE OR CAREER PATHWAY-
FOR. YOUNGER FOLKS COMING INTO
THE WORK FORCE- YEAH THAT THE
LONG TERM AND IF THIS IS THE
FUNDING STRUCTURE THAT THE
BUREAU'S UNDER THE LONG TERM
FINANCIAL- SUSTAINABILITY OF THE
BUREAU IS DEPENDENT UPON ITS
LICENSING POPULATION AND ANY
CHANGE OBVIOUSLY ANY INCREASE IN
SALARY AND WAGES THAT MAY HAPPEN
OR BENEFITS OR- ANY FUTURE
INCREASE AND- ANY OF THE COSTS
IS BECAUSE THEY'RE SUCH A SMALL-
BUREAU. DOES HAVE SIGNIFICANT
IMPACTS SO THAT'S ONE THING WE
ALWAYS HAVE TO LOOK AT WITH ALL
OF OUR BOARDS AND BUREAUS BUT
YOU KNOW THE SMALLER ONES IT
DEFINITELY HAS A LARGER HIT TO
THEIR FUNDS. OKAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SIR SEARCH LOW. THANK
YOU MANAGER WELCOME BACK. OKAY
OF THE FOOD DISH AND FOOD TO
SHARE RESPONSIBILITY THAT
PROFESSIONAL HAS A FIDUCIARY
RESPONSIBILITY THAT SENIOR WHO
THAT CHILD TO THE A STATE OF.
AND DAVE SOMETIMES HAVE THE
POWER OF ATTORNEY THEY HAVE
ACCESS TO THE- THE BOOKS AND
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO DAILY CARE
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE HOUSING.
I MEAN THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF
THAT SENIOR THE CHILD WHATEVER
MAY BE. AND DOES THAT ALSO SPILL
OVER INTO ACCESS TO THE BANK
ACCOUNT WHERE SOME OF THE
SENIORS HAVE WORKED ALL THEIR
LIVES AND HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK
IN THIS. SO CALLED PROFESSIONAL
CAN ACTUALLY GO INTO THE ACCOUNT
FOR PERSONAL GAIN THAT'S WHAT
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AND WHAT DO
YOU DO ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU FIND
OUT WITH SOME OF THE FAMILY
MEMBERS ANYONE. COMPLAINS AND OF
COURSE WE HAVE LAWS PROTECTING
SENIORS BUT WHAT ARE YOUR COURSE
OF ACTION UNDER YOUR UMBRELLA.
IT'S SO UNDER A ARE ARE.
OFFICIAL TODAY SURE IS IT
DEPENDS ON THE ROLE THAT THEY
TAKE WITH THE CLIENT IF THEY'RE
A CONSERVATOR OR TRUSTEE OR
POWER OF ATTORNEY THAT USUALLY
SPELLED OUT IN HOW THAT
APPOINTMENT IS THE TERMS OF. OF
RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THAT
INDIVIDUAL HAS YES THEY CAN
OFTEN TIMES THEY DO ESTATE
MANAGEMENT THEY PAY BILLS THEY
PAY THEIR OWN BILLS THEY- CAN I
MEAN THERE'S- DECISION MAKING
THAT IS MADE. ESSENTIALLY ON
BEHALF OF THE CLIENT- SO THE
OVERSIGHT OF THIS PROFESSION IS
JUST SO- INCREDIBLY NEEDED-
BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A VULNERABLE
POPULATION AND- WITHOUT.
OVERSIGHT THERE CERTAINLY. A LOT
OF RISK FOR CONSUMER HARM IS AS
YOU'VE TOUCHED UPON. I SUGGEST
MY QUESTION THE OVERSIGHT. DO
YOU AUDIT THESE INDIVIDUALS AND
SEE AN INTERVIEW AND FIND OUT.
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE FAMILY
THERE AND IF THERE'S ANY
POTENTIAL. THEORY YES. GOD ONKEL
AND- WE DO. BUT OBVIOUSLY BIG
PART OF OUR OUR WORK IS
INVESTIGATIONS WE TAKE
COMPLAINTS- FROM THE PUBLIC
USUALLY SOMETIMES ANOTHER.
PROFESSIONAL ADDITIONAL COMPLAIN
ABOUT A PROFESSIONAL TO DO
SHERRY WILL GET AN INFORMATION
FROM ANOTHER. GOVERNMENT AGENCY
WE WILL LOOK INTO THE- THE
COMPLAINT GATHER EVIDENCE IN
CONDUCT INTERVIEWS AND IF WE
FIND THAT THERE HAS BEEN A
VIOLATION OF THE PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARIES ACT THEN WE CAN
SANCTION THAT LICENSE. IS IN
THIS ONGOING SYSTEM WHERE YOU
WOULD AUDIT THAT PARTICULAR
PROFESSIONAL MEETING WITH THE
CLIENT WHERE SOMEBODY GOES OUT
OF THE THIRD PARTY. IN HOW YOU
DOING MRS JONES WITH YOUR
PROFESSIONAL HOW'S YOUR BOOKS I
MEAN JUST AS SEE SOMETHING
BEFORE IT HAPPENS. WE DON'T HAVE
THAT AUTHORITY TO MOLEST
SOMEBODY HELP WAY YEAH IT'S VERY
REACTIVE AND A LOT OF OUR
BARTENDERS ARE THIS WAY YOU
WAITING FOR THE COMPLAINT TO
COMMAND SOMEONE TO BRING IT TO
OUR ATTENTION. I MEAN I THINK
ONE THING THAT HAS COME UP
BECAUSE IT'S IT IT WAS IN- YOU
KNOW THE RECENT LEGISLATION WAS
PASSED IS THAT EVERYBODY
UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS COULD BE
AN ISSUE AND I THINK THAT'S WHY
LIKE FX WAS ADDED AS CONTINUING
EDUCATION FOR THIS PROFESSION
BECAUSE THERE IS DEFINITELY. I
KNOW IT'S JUST A TRAINING COURSE
BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT WILL.
HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS YOU KNOW
MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING
THE RIGHT THINGS AND THEN WHEN
THE COMPLAINTS TO COMMAND. WE
INVESTIGATE ALL THE WAY UP
INVESTIGATION AND THEN- FOR THE
CASE TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE SO THEY CAN. PROSECUTE
ANY WRONGDOING AND THEN TAKE
ACTION AND I HAVE SEEN THIS
BOROUGH YOU KNOW IT'S A LOT OF
THEM ARE LIKE REVOCATION AND
SURRENDERS OF THOSE. INDIVIDUALS
LICENSE SO YOU MAY GET A YUBA
PARTNERSHIP WITH UP WITH OTHER
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THE DA-
DISTILLERY. AND OBVIOUSLY
CONSUMER LAWS AND PROTECTION OF
SENIORS AND YOU WOULD BE THE
GUIDING FORCE TO. PROTECT THE
CONSUMER I'M ASSUMING YES. OKAY
THANK YOU MISTER. THANK SIR SLOW
- SINCE MY CUEVAS AND THEN SURE
. SO GOOD AFTERNOON THANK YOU
FOR THE AND- SHARED SO FAR- I
JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ONE.
WITH A LIMITED BUDGET AND GOING
BACK TO- ASSEMBLY MEN- EARLIER
THIS SIMPLY MEANS QUESTION ABOUT
PRESSURES. WITH THE GROWING
POPULATION HOW DO YOU INFORM
FOLKS ABOUT THIS- PROTECTION- IS
IT A NETWORK I MEAN CLEARLY YOU
DON'T YOU HAVE A WEBSITE. BUT
YOU DON'T HAVE A ROBUST BUDGET
TO DO PUBLIC INFORMATION FOR THE
FACT I FORGET IT'S LIKE EVERY
MINUTE SOMEONE TURNS. SEVENTY
YOU KNOW HERE IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA DON'T QUOTE THAT BUT
THERE IS. THERE IS A YOU KNOW
THE- THE GROWING AND- OF OUR
AGING POPULATION SO HOW DO YOU.
COMMUNICATE THESE PROTECTIONS DO
YOU PARTNER WITH CONVALESCENT
HOMES WITH HOSPITALS THE AYE I'M
JUST CURIOUS. HOW DO FOLKS LEARN
ABOUT IT THAT'S NUMBER ONE AND
NUMBER TWO- IMPLEMENTATION OF AB
FOUR SIXTY FIVE- JUST WANTED TO
GET A SENSE OF HOW THAT CULTURAL
COMPETENCY IMPLEMENTATION PLAN
IS GOING AND- ARE THERE
ADDITIONAL- EFFORTS IN TERMS OF.
THINKING ABOUT WAYS TO ADDRESS
THE NEEDS OF THE DIVERSITY OF
OUR OF OUR POPULATION THAT
REQUIRES THE SERVICES. HEY AND
PARTICULARLY AROUND THOSE WHO
ARE- SEEKING LICENSES TO- I TOOK
NOTES BUT PLEASE IF I MISSED
ANYTHING PLEASE- LAST WEEKEND
BUT- WE ARE SMALL THERE IS A
THREE A FULL TIME STAFF WE DO
OUTRAGE WE TRY TO GO TO. SENIOR
EVENTS AND TALK TO THE PUBLIC
ABOUT THE BUREAU EXPLAIN WHAT
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARIES DO WHAT
THEY DON'T DO- AND THEN ALWAYS
ADVISE FOLKS TO. CHECK TO MAKE
SURE THAT SOMEBODY'S ACTIVELY
LICENSE THAT'S JUST INFORMATION
THAT WE REALLY TRY TO PUSH AND
WE DO HAVE A WEBSITE WE HAVE PUT
OUT A NEWSLETTER THE BUREAU HAS
ALSO AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT
MEETS FOUR TIMES A YEAR AND SO.
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY FOR US
TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE
PUBLIC THAT IS WATCHING. THEM TO
SEE THE STUFF THAT THEY'RE THE-
THE WORK THAT THE BUREAU IS
CONDUCTING AN AND HOWARD TRYING
TO HELP SENIORS. AND FOR A
BEFORE SIXTY FIVE AS THAT WAS
RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED AS THE- THE
BUREAU PROMULGATED REGULATIONS
TO- CODIFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF
FOUR SIXTY FIVE INTO OUR
EXISTING EDUCATIONAL. AND
REGULATIONS- WE HAVE SENT OUT
NOTICES TO OUR LICENSEES WE'VE
UPDATED OUR WEBSITE WE UPDATED
OUR FORM SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF
INTERNAL WORK ON ON. MAKING SURE
THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT AND
I'D I KNOW THAT COURSE PROVIDERS
ARE STARTING TO PROVIDE MORE
COURSES- IN THAT AREA. AND FOR A
- THE- DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER
AFFAIRS HAS BEEN- STATE FARM TO
STEERING COMMITTEE ON D. E. I.
INITIATIVES ON TO HELP THE
PROGRAMS UNDER THE DEPARTMENT
TO. LOOK AND SEE LIKE MAKE SURE
THAT OUR UNDERSTANDING NOT JUST
IN OUR OWN WORK PLACE-
CELEBRATES D. E. AYE BUT ALSO IN
OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS WITH THE
PUBLIC AND WITH OUR LICENSEES
THEY'LL BE TRAININGS I'M
ATTENDING ONE NEXT WEEK I'M JUST
GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE LEARN
AND THEN. UPDATE OUR STRATEGIC
PLAN THE- OUR DIRECTOR MENTIONED
THAT WE JUST FINISHED OUR
STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS SO WE
WILL UPDATE THAT MAKE SURE THAT
THEIR D. III INITIATIVES ARE
CORPORATION TO THAT SO WE HAVE
REAL TANGIBLE- THINGS THAT WE
LOOK TO DEAL TO INCORPORATE THAT
INTO THE WORK THAT WE- KNOW
THANK YOU FOR THAT I THINK THE-
R. LGBTQA I FAMILIES. REALLY DO
HAVE A- A WAY ADDRESSING FAMILY
ISSUES IN CARING FOR THOSE WHO
WOULD FALL UNDER THOSE SERVICES
AN IMPORTANT HAVE FOLKS WITH
THAT CULTURAL COMPETENCY TO BE
ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE FAMILIES
THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. AND
SENATE I'M JUST GONNA PUT IN A
SHAMELESS PLUG AS WELL ONE OTHER
WAY THAT WE REALLY LIKE TO DO AT
REACHES WITH TOWN HALLS WITH.
YOU ALL THE ALL THE LEGISLATURE
WHEN YOU GO OUT. SO IF THERE'S
AN ERROR FOR ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR
US TO JOIN YOU AND WE'VE OFFERED
THAT TO THOSE THAT WE MEET WITH
AND- I'M GIVING INFORMATION
ABOUT NOT ONLY THE PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARY BUREAUS BUT ANY OF THE
OTHER- DEPARTMENTS. THANK YOU
FOR THAT WILL TAKE YOU UP ON IT
WE HOPE SO THANK YOU SENATOR
BERMAN. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
SO I KNOW THE BUREAU WAS WAS
HUMMING ALONG JUST FINE- AND
THEN THE LEGISLATURE- DROPPED
ELEVEN NINETY FOUR- IN YOUR LAP-
AND THAT'S CREATED SOME KIND OF
FISCAL CHALLENGES. GIVEN THAT IS
THERE ANYTHING WE IN THE
LEGISLATURE CAN DO STATUTORILY
TO HELP ALLEVIATE. SOME OF THE
FISCAL ISSUES THAT YOU'RE
DEALING WITH AND THEN ALSO I
KNOW YOU'RE TALKING A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THIS. IN RESPONSE TO AS A
MEMBER JACKSON'S QUESTION BUT
ARE THERE ANY WAYS TO HELP
INCREASE. THE FOR THIS YEAR IS
WORKFORCE- THAT THAT THE
LEGISLATURE COULD PLAY A ROLE
AND HELPING WITH THAT. WELL I
THINK IT'S- ULTIMATELY IT'S AT.
THE FUNDING STRUCTURE OF THE
BUREAU SAID. PUTS IT. AT A
DISADVANTAGE- IN. MAKING SURE
THAT WE MEET ALL OF OUR
ENFORCEMENT AND OUR LICENSING
FUNCTIONS- I THINK THAT. THERE'S
NO. HEY YOU COULD POTENTIALLY
BRING OTHER PEOPLE INTO THE
PROFESSION AND REQUIRE- OTHER
GROUPS TO BE LICENSED THAT
AREN'T REQUIRED NOW. AND THERE
COULD BE POSSIBLY ANOTHER
FUNDING SOURCE OUTSIDE OF OR
SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING SOURCE
OUTSIDE OF. JUST LICENSING FEES-
THE FLOATED CONSOLIDATING THE
BUREAU INTO INTO SOMETHING ELSE
TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
. AND I MEAN I THINK ULTIMATELY
THE BUREAU'S CONCERN AND FROM
THAT. STANDPOINT HERE IS THAT.
THIS IS A BREAK UP. A PROFESSION
THAT NEEDS TO BE REGULATED AND
BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT
THEY SERVE ARE HUGELY ARE VERY
VERY VULNERABLE AND SO AS LONG
AS THAT'S THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE
THEN. WHATEVER THE OUTCOME FROM
SUNSET REVIEW IS YOU KNOW
WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND
WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS
AND WITH THE BUREAU- AS LONG AS
WE'RE PUTTING THE- NEEDS OF THE
CONSUMER FIRST THEN. I MEAN
THAT'S THAT'S GOT TO BE THE
GUIDING PRINCIPLE I THINK I
THINK AS FAR AS AB- ELEVEN
NINETY FOUR I THINK THERE WERE
GREAT THINGS IN THERE THAT
BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION- YOU
KNOW THERE'S THE POSTING OF FEES
THERE'S ALSO THE REQUIREMENT TO
REPORT TO THE COURT- FROM THE
COURT TO THE BUREAU. SO I THINK
THOSE ARE GREAT FOR ENFORCEMENT
SO IT'S HARD TO SAY- YEAH JUST
TAKE IT ALL BACK RIGHT BECAUSE
IT WAS CONSUMER PROTECTION
RIGHT- SO THAT'S THAT THAT'S
WHAT WE'RE KIND OF IN THIS WEIRD
GO BETWEEN RIGHT LIKE WE NEED TO
HAVE THE REGULATION BUT HOW WE
PAY FOR IT. ONE OF THE THINGS
WITH CONSOLIDATION YOU HAVE TO
REMEMBER IS WE STILL WANT THOSE
LICENSEES TO PAY FOR THEIR
PROFESSION SO EVEN IF WE
CONSOLIDATE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY.
WHAT IS THAT YOU KNOW. THE I
CAN'T THINK OF THE WORD BUT YOU
KNOW YOU HAVE MASS RIGHT SO
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IF THEY JOIN
ANOTHER- BORDER BUREAU THEY'RE
GOING TO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT
ARE EASIER RIGHT. YOU KNOW
YOU'RE JUST SHARING EVERYTHING
RIGHT SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME.
VERY SMALL THINGS BUT AT THE END
OF THE DAY YOU ALSO DON'T WANT
ANOTHER PROFESSION PAYING FOR.
THAT LICENSE SO HE'D STILL KINDA
HALF HOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT-
BUREAU OF HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND
SERVICES YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT. THOSE LICENSEES ARE PAYING
FOR THOSE COSTS AND- YOU KNOW
WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT WAYS TO
KEEP THE COSTS DOWN AS WELL- SO
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT. YOU KNOW
WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WILL
CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR AND ALSO
JUST WORKING WITH YOU TO SEE
WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS. FOR THE
SPIRO PERFECT. THANK YOU THE
CHAIR REFERENCE WORK FOR. YOU
KNOW IT. OBVIOUSLY IT'S IN A-
THE- ARE NOT. TO LIFE. IF THERE
ENGAGING IN THESE ACTIVITIES
WITHIN THE- PERMITTED SCOPE OF
PRACTICE- IN THEIR FIELD
RESPECTIVE FIELDS. IS THERE A
NEED FOR MORE PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARIES AND- AND IF SO-
PERHAPS AND PERHAPS IS A BUREAU
YOU HAVE SOME OUT REACH TO DO IN
TERMS OF- COLLEGE PROGRAMS OR
WHATEVER THE CREDENTIALS ARE
THAT YOU DEEM. APPROPRIATE IN
ORDER TO PROPERLY PERFORM AS A
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARY. TRY TO
BUILD THE PROFESSION RIGHT. I
AGREE I THINK THAT THERE'S I
THINK THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR
THIS PROFESSION AND I THINK THAT
THERE ARE MORE CONSUMERS THAT
PROBABLY NEED TO BE. OUR NEEDS
THE HELP OF A PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARY CAN PROVIDE. AND WERE.
WE JUST FINISHED OUR STRATEGIC
PLANNING AND WITHIN THAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT- LEVERAGING LIKE
THESE THE EXPERTISE OF THE
ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO SEE HOW WE
CAN. DO MORE TARGETED OUTREACH
INTO PERHAPS INCREASING THAT THE
LICENSE FOR POOL AND IF YOU CAN
PERHAPS YOU SHOULD CONSIDER AT
LEAST DISCUSS WITH. THE VARIOUS
SAID DISTRICT ATTORNEYS IN THE
STATE TO PARTNER WITH THEM. THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICES OF THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S THE- OFFICES
OF ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES I
ASSUME THAT'S ONE OF YOUR TARGET
POPULATIONS YES- OFFICES OF
AGING- TO INFORM THOSE. FOLKS
LIKE ME. WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT
YOU DO. AND I CONFESS BEFORE I
TOOK OVER THIS JOB A COUPLE
YEARS AGO I'D PROBABLY NEVER
WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THERE
WAS A BUREAU. OF PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARIES AND I'M A LAWYER AT
LEAST I ONCE WAS THAT'S A
COMMON. RESPONSE I RECEIVE WHEN
I. START TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT
IS THAT I DO GOOD FOR YOU GOOD
FOR WHICH DOING FURTHER
QUESTIONS COLLEAGUES. OKAY. WELL
IT'S EXCEPT EXCEPT US MONEY FOR
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARIES BUREAU
BEGINNING WITH WITNESSES HERE IN
ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED PLEASE
STEP UP TO THE MIKE NAME AND
AFFILIATION AND- TRY TO KEEP IT
TO ABOUT TWO MINUTES IF WE COULD
. THE END MEMBERS- JERRY DOES
SPEND WITH THE PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARY ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA
P. FACT OF. WE WOULD LIKE TO
ADDRESS A FEW OF THE ISSUES THAT
ARE BROUGHT UP IN THE SUNSET
REPORT IN THE BACKGROUND PAPER
IN ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
THAT YOU HAVE RAISED WITH THE
DEPARTMENT AND THE BUREAU IN
TERMS OF. YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THE
CHALLENGES TO ITS BUDGET HOW DO
WE INCREASE THE POPULATION BUT
FIRST WE HAVE ABOUT EIGHT
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IN THE
OF SUNSET REPORTED BACKGROUND
PAPER THAT WE SUPPORT. OF THE
FIRST IS THE ENROLLED AGENT
ISSUE- THERE IS A QUESTION
RAISED IN THE- BACKGROUND PAPER
AS TO WHETHER THE ENROLLED AGENT
EXEMPTION FROM THE OFFICIAL
REACTION BE CONTINUED AND- YOU
KNOW WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE. OF A
LIMITED AT THIS TIME OF WHILE IT
WAS IN- BUT WITH THE ORIGINAL
ACT WITH THE IDEA THAT THERE
COULD BE SOME OVERLAPPING- BUT
WE NOTE SINCE THEN IS THAT. YOU
KNOW WHEN RULED AGENTS ARE
REGISTERED WITH THE INTERNAL
REVENUE SERVICE TO PROVIDE. TAX
PREPARATION REPRESENTATION
ACTIVITIES BUT THEY'RE NOT
OVERSEEN BY CALIFORNIAN ANYWAY
SO IF THERE WERE TO BE AN
ENROLLED AGENT THAT IS PROVIDING
A- SERVICE REQUIRED FOR
LICENSURE. THERE BE NO WAY FOR
THE STATE TO ENFORCE THAT IF THE
EVEN IDENTIFIED IT SO WE THINK.
THAT MIGHT ALSO INCREASE I DON'T
KNOW HOW MANY BUT IT MIGHT
INCREASE THE LICENSE POPULATION
AS WE TALK ABOUT THE WORK FORCE
SO. THAT'S ONE RECOMMENDATION I
THINK WOULD ADDRESS OF ONE OF
THE QUESTIONS IN SOME WAY TO
SOME EXTENT. JUST TO SUCK IN
SOME RESPECT- WE ALSO SUPPORT A
NUMBER OF THE OTHER. A SPECIFIC
SORT OF EASY YOU KNOW
HOUSEKEEPING ALMOST BUT IMPROVE
THE ACT ONE IS TO WIN- INCLUDE
CASE NAMES. ELIMINATE THE
REQUIREMENT TO INCLUDE CASE NAME
CIRCUMSTANCES A COURT LOCATIONS.
AS PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. A
TO SEE UP TO INCLUDE AS A
CRIMINAL ACT OF SOMEBODY WHO
HOLDS HIMSELF OUT AS A PRETTY
SURE WITHOUT HAVING A LICENSE.
REALIZING THERE MIGHT BE SOME
STRESSES ON FOR SMITH THERE. OF
SUPPORTING THE RECOMMENDATION TO
EXAMPLE AGENCIES. THAT HOLDER
RETIRED LICENSE FROM ANNUAL
REPORTING. A TO LIMIT THE TERM
THAT THE USE OF THE TERM LICENSE
PROFESSIONAL PRODUCER. TO THOSE
THAT ACTUALLY HAVE A LICENSE. A
TO REMOVE PUNITIVELY FROM THE
ENFORCEMENT STATUE BUT- THAT IS
A WORD THAT'S NOT. THROUGHOUT
THE AXE. THAT TO PROVIDE FAILURE
TO COOPERATE WOULD BE A CRIMINAL
ACTIVITY. WE THINK THOSE ARE
GREAT IMPROVEMENTS- ALSO THERE
IS A MENTION IN ISSUE TEN. IN
THE BACKGROUND PAPER OF WHETHER
THERE WOULD BE- WE SUPPORT IT-
TO REVISE THE AB ELEVEN NINETY
FOUR PROVISION. TO MAKE IT CLEAR
THAT A FIDUCIARY COULD HAVE
THEIR OWN. EMPLOYEES ACTING
UNDER THEIR LICENSE WITHOUT
HAVING TO. GO TO COURT HIRE THEM
BECAUSE ALREADY STRUCTURE THAT
WAY. THERE IS ONE THAT- AS I
CLOSE TO SAY WE HAVE SOME
EXCEPTION WITH. IS THE ISSUE
THAT SUGGESTS THAT. UPPER A
LICENSEE THAT AIDS OR ABETS
SOMEBODY. IMPROVE- IN PROVIDING
SERVICES. OF THAT THEY ARE THAT
THEY HAVE BEEN SUBLET SUBJECT TO
REVOCATION OR SUSPENSION WE
THINK THAT IS WORDED IT IT
CAUSES A PROBLEM FOR THOSE THAT.
ARE USED TO HAVE A LICENSE BUT
MIGHT BE WORKING PROVIDING
SERVICES UNDER A LICENSEE SO WE
WONDER WHETHER THE EXISTING
STATUTES THAT PROVIDE FOR-
UNPROFESSIONAL ACTIVE YOU'RE ON
LICENSE ACTIVE YOUR ADEQUATE UP
TO. ADDRESS THAT. THANK YOU X.
THANK YOU ROOM SIR IT WILL. NEXT
PLEASE. HELLO MY NAME IS
PATRICIA GARCIA I'M A LICENSED
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARY. AND I'M
ALL SET ON THE P. FAX
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. I'M HERE
TO MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF
COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE
PROFESSION FIDUCIARY PURO. I
WOULD MAKE JUST TWO SHORT
COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THE
PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE- AS A
LICENSED PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARY
JUST TO COMMENT WITH RESPECT TO
HOW WE BECOME LICENSED. WE HAVE
TO MAKE AN APPLICATION WE HAVE
TO GO TO A TESTING. OF PROCESS
WE HAVE TO GO TO AN EXTENSIVE
BACKGROUND CHECK AND WE HAVE TO
GO THROUGH A SPECIFIC
EDUCATIONAL PROCESS SO WE DO GO
THROUGH. A KIND OF A- OF A
PROCESS IN ORDER TO BECOME AND
BECOME LICENSE AS WELL AS A
PROFESSION FOR THE SHERRY. AND
THE SECOND CON TO MAKE BEFORE WE
PROVIDER SUPPORT COMMENTS HIS- A
LOT OF THE INFORMATION IS BEING
DISSEMINATED WITH RESPECT TO THE
AGING POPULATION. YOU SEE THAT
LICENSE PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARIES
ARE IN GREAT NEED BECAUSE WHAT
HAPPENS IS. YOU SEE THAT THE
THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM- WHERE
THEIR- A- IN MATH. A REALLY
AFFECTING NOT LICENSED FRESH
PETITIONS BUT UNLICENSED.
UNLICENSED PEOPLE. FAMILY
MEMBERS- THEY'RE TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF OTHER FAMILY
MEMBERS. UNLICENSED OTHER
PERSONS THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT TO
THE BUREAU. SO I WANTED TO POINT
THAT OUT BECAUSE FOR THE MOST
PART LICENSE PROFESSIONAL
FEATURES COME IN. A WHEN THAT
HAPPENS WHERE THEY COME IN AT
THE ONSET. ONLY WE AS
PROFESSIONALS COME IN AND DO OUR
JOB WHETHER THAT BE SCRUTINIZED
BY THE COURT. WE FOLLOW THE
COURT PROCESS WHETHER THAT BE
APPOINTED AS CONSERVATIVE. OR
TRUSTEE OR EXECUTOR. OR PURSUANT
TO THE TERMS OF DOCUMENT WHETHER
THAT BE A TRY A TRUST. OR POWER
OF ATTORNEY. WITH RESPECT TO P.
FAX SUPPORT. WE SUPPORT THE BEER
WAS ASSESSMENT. THAT ALLOWING
PROFESSION VISERYS TO ORGANIZE
AS AN ENTITY WOULD BENEFIT THE
CONSUMER. APPOINTMENT AS AN
ENTITY WHAT A LOT ENABLE
CONTINUITY OF SERVICES AND CARE
FOR CONSUMERS. IT WOULD
ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THE
CONSUMER TO ENCOURAGE EXPENSE.
AND REPLACING THE PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARY SHOULD THAT PERSON
RESIGN. RETIRE BECOME
INCAPACITATED OR PASS AWAY. THE
BUREAU STATED HESITATION TO
PURSUE LICENSING AS A
CORPORATION. IS CENTERED ON ITS
CONCERN THAT AS AN ENTITY THE
FIDUCIARY BE HEALED FROM
PERSONAL LIABILITY. HOWEVER AS A
PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION THE
PRODUCER WOULD CONTINUE TO BE
PERSONALLY LIABLE FOR ACTS AND
OMISSIONS. ADDITIONALLY
REGISTERING OR LICENSING OF
PROFESSIONAL CORPORATIONS. IN
ADDITION TO INDIVIDUAL LICENSING
WOULD PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL MUCH
NEEDED REVENUE SOURCE TO FUND
THE BUREAU. HE FACT URGES THE
LEGISLATURE. PROVIDES THE MOSCOW
KNOCKS PROFESSIONAL CORPORATIONS
ACT. TO ALLOW PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARIES TO ORGANIZE AS
PROFESSIONAL CORPORATIONS.
SECOND HE FAXED SUPPORTS A
MODEST FEE INCREASE. P. FACTION
AIRS THE BUREAU'S CONCERN. THAT
A SIZEABLE FEE INCREASE WILL
INCREASE BARRIERS TO ENTRY INTO
THIS PROFESSION. LOOKING TO
CLIMB OVER A LICENSING
POPULATION. WE BELIEVE THE
OPTIONS ARE EITHER INCREASE
LICENSE FEES. TOMASZ EXTENT
REDUCE THE BUDGET OR A
COMBINATION OF THE TWO. AS
STATED HERE THE BUREAU IS
CONCERNED THAT MANDATES
ESTABLISHED BY IT AB ELEVEN
NINETY FOUR WHICH REFERENCES.
ELDER ABUSE CLAIMS SUBMITTED BY
PUBLIC. POSTING A FEE SCHEDULE
AND REFERRALS FROM THE COURT TO
THE COURT HAVING IMPOSED A
PENALTY. OR MAKING A FINDING
THAT PROFESSION VIDEO FURY HAS
ABUSING ADULT. A WILL RESULT IN
A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN
COMPLAINTS AND INVESTIGATIONS.
THOUGH THE BUREAU WAS INCLUDED
CONTINUES TO BE CHARGED WITH
INVESTIGATING ALL COMPLAINTS
WITHOUT RESTRICTION THIS
CONCERNS SUGGEST THAT THE
INFRACTION SPECIFICALLY CALLED
OUT AB ELEVEN NINETY FOUR ARE
NOT ALREADY REPORTED TO THE
BUREAU. MA'AM YOUR APPROACHING
FOUR MINUTES SO I'M GOING TO ASK
YOU TO I WANT ONE LAST COMMENT
PERFECT THANK YOU- HE FACT DOES
NOT AGREE THAT THE MAN IS A BABY
LET NINETY FOUR RESULT IN A
SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN
COMPLAINTS. AND OBJECTS TO FEE
INCREASE BASED ON THE PERCEIVED
POTENTIAL BUT UNKNOWN INCREASE
IN COMPLAINTS. AND MY LAST LAST
LET'S COME IS THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME I WILL SAY IF YOU LOOK AT
THE STATISTICS. OUT OF THE PAST
THREE YEARS I'VE ONLY BEEN NINE
DISCIPLINARY OUTCOMES OF THE
LICENSING POPULATION OF OVER
EIGHT HUNDRED THANK THANK YOU
FOR TAKE YOUR TIME AND YOUR
COMMENTS NEXT PLEASE. NAME
AFFILIATION AND LET'S TRY TO DO
TWO MINUTES I'M GONNA DO MY BEST
I KNOW YOU. CAN TELL HER HERE.
AND AND JUST SO MUCH TO SAY AND
WE JUST HAVE TO MORE WE JUST
HAVE TO MORE BOARDS THAT ARE
LINKED HERE THAN THIS MY NAME IS
MARYLAND CREDIBLE I HAVE SERVED
IN OUR I WORKED AS A
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARY SINCE
NINETEEN EIGHTY FOUR. LONG
BEFORE LICENSING CAME INTO
EFFECT. I'M AND I WANT TO POINT
OUT JUST FEW THINGS ABOUT
PROFESSIONAL PRODUCERS IN THE
PORT ROLE THEY PLAY. I'M
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARIES OUR
SUPERVISED OF THE COURT AND
REGULATE REGULATED BY THE BOARD
IN THAT THEY ARE THE PROBABLY
THE MOST REGULATED AND
SUPERVISED OF THE PROFESSIONS. A
PRODUCER LYSONS MERELY QUALIFIES
A LICENSEE TO BE APPOINTED BY
THE COURT CERVECERIAS REPRESENT
OF CAPACITIES. AND THROUGHOUT
THE TENURE OF THAT APPOINTMENT.
THE COURT SUPERVISES EVERYTHING
ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT A
FIDUCIARY DOES WHETHER NOT THAT
OPENING OR CLOSING A BANK
ACCOUNT SELLING A PIECE OF REAL
ESTATE OR MAKING HEALTH CARE
DECISIONS. OFTEN DO SHERRY
OPTIONS ARE REGULARLY REVIEWED
BY THE COURT AND IT'S PART OF
THAT PROCESS INTERESTED PARTIES
ARE IN ARE INVITED. TO COMPARE
CONVEY THEIR CONCERNS OF THE
COURT. UNDER BUSINESS
PROFESSIONS CODE THREE TWENTY
SIX THE DIRECTOR IS INSTRUCTED
TO TRANSMIT ANY VALID COMPLAINT.
TO THE AGENCY WHOSE AUTHORITY
FOR THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS TO
SECURE RELIEF SOUGHT BY THE
CONSUMER. 101% OF CONSUMERS THAT
RESPONDED TO THE BUREAU'S TWO
THOUSAND NINETEEN SURVEY
INDICATED. THEY DID NOT BELIEVE
THE BUREAU RESOLVE THE
COMPLAINT. THE BUREAU'S TWENTY
ONE TWENTY TWO SURVEY.
APPARENTLY DID NOT INCLUDE THE
QUESTION. WE BELIEVE THE PULSE
DESERVES. THE HANDING CLAIM
CLAIM COMPLAIN AS LARGE DUE THE
FOR THAT COULD. FILE COMPLAIN
WITH THE BUREAU SEEKING RELIEF
THAT THE COULDN'T BUREAU CANNOT
PROVIDE. THE FACT URGES THE
LEGISLATURE REVITALIZED INTERACT
TO CLARIFY THAT IT INSTANCES
WHERE THE LEAK RELIEF SOUGHT.
EXTENDS BEYOND LICENSE
DISCIPLINE THE BUREAU SHOULD
MAKE CONSUMERS AWARE OF A MOST
APPROPRIATE MEANS TO AVAILABLE.
AVAILABLE TO THEM TO SECURE THE
RELEASE ARE SEEKING. AT THE
RELEASED REJECTED USURY DUTY THE
COURT IS THE AGENCY THAT
PROVIDES THE MOST EFFECTIVE
MEANS TO SECURE CONSUMER RELIEF.
DETERMINATION SUCH AS NEGLIGENCE
OR ELDER ABUSE AND IMPOSITION OF
SURCHARGE REQUIRE A JUDICIAL
DETERMINATION AND ARE NOT
APPROPRIATE ISSUES. FOR THE BILL
TO CONSIDER. SPECIFICALLY P.
BACK URGES THE LEGISLATURE TO
AMANDA LICENSURE ACT TO PROVIDE
THAT WHERE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF
A COMPLAINT FILED WITH THE
BUREAU. HAS EITHER BEEN
ADJUDICATED OR IS IN THE PROCESS
OF BEING ADJUDICATED BY THE
COURT. THE BUREAU SHOULD BE
DIRECTED TO THE FIRST TWO
QUARTERS TERMINATIONS THEREBY
ELIMINATING. USELESS AND WE GET
INVESTIGATIONS WHERE COURT
DETERMINATION HAS ALREADY BEEN
MADE. THE BUREAU CAN THEN ACT AS
THE PRODUCERS LICENSE BASED ON
THOSE CORE FINDINGS. NOT ONLY
WITH THIS ELIMINATE THE EXPENSE
OF AN INVESTIGATION AS TO AN
ISSUE JUDICATA BY THE COURT WHAT
WOULD ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY
OF PARALLEL INVESTIGATIONS WHICH
HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR
CONFLICTING OUTCOMES. THIS
STRUCTURE SUPPORTED BY THE
SEPARATION OF POWERS CLAUSE OF
THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
UNDER WHICH THE JUDICIAL BRANCH
OF THE GOVERNMENT IS CHARGED
WITH INTERPRETING THE LAWS OF
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME THANK YOU FOR
YOUR COMMENTS. I WILL- MEMBER
FOR USED. I'M PRETTY- LENIENT
MOST OF MY CAR WHO CHAIR CA.
IMPOSE A ONE MINUTE OR TWO
MINUTE RULE I ALLOW TRY TO ALLOW
PEOPLE TO SPEAK I KNOW YOU'RE
GOING TO BE SHORT THIS IS FOR
THOSE WHO WERE COMING. LATER I
MAY HAVE TO START IMPOSING TIME
LIMITS FOR LENGTHY PRESENTATIONS
THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU HIT
THE HIGHLIGHTS AND THEN
SUBMITTED YOUR COMMENTS IN
WRITING. TO BOTH COMMITTEES ON
OUR WEBSITES ARE DIRECTLY HERE
AT THE- STREET BUILDING- AND WE
WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
INCORPORATED IN THE RECORD. AND
THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE FULLY
CONSIDERED WHEN WE DELIBERATE
WHAT IF ANY CHANGES. NEED TO BE
MADE THROUGH THE SUNSET PROCESS
I'M NOT SPEAKING TO YOU MA'AM
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO
SET THE RECORD. HEY DAMON
AFFILIATION PLEASE I AM JENNIFER
TALHELM WITH ERIN REED AND
ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA SOCIETY OF ENROLLED
AGENTS. ENROLLED AGENTS AS
MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY ARE A HAVE
SIGNIFICANT OVERSIGHT BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY.
DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY AND
THEY ALSO HAVE A HIGH STANDARD
OF ETHICS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO
MEET TO STAY ENROLLED WITH THE
IRS THE DEPARTMENT. AND I'LL BE
ABLE TO REPRESENT PEOPLE BEFORE
THE IRS. AND SO WE WOULD
ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE ANY ATTEMPT TO
DOUBLE REGULATE THEM BY HAVING
THEM BE PART OF THE FIDUCIARY-
OF BUREAU. AND THIS ISSUE CAME
UP A FEW YEARS AGO AND- IT WAS
WE THOUGHT WAS RESOLVED AT THAT
POINT THE ALSO BECAUSE OF
FINANCIAL REASONS AND- BUT WE
ARE TOTALLY OPEN TO WORKING WITH
THE COMMITTEE AS IT DISCUSSES
THIS ISSUE PERFECT. THANK THANK
YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER. INDIVIDUAL
IN ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED WHO
WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT
THING NINE LET'S MOVE TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE OR MISS
MODERATOR. PLEASE PROMPT ANY
SUCH INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARIES BUTTE
BUREAU AND WE WILL. BEGIN WITH
THEM. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON
THIS ISSUE PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND JUST
SHARE.
OKAY AND WE'LL GO TO LINE FORTY
NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD. MISTER
CHAIRMAN WITHIN THE COMMITTEE
GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGE GLENN
RESEARCHER. I AM A RETIRED
CALIFORNIA JUDGE. I WAS AN
ATTORNEY FOR TWENTY PLUS YEARS I
WAS A CALIFORNIA. JUDGE FOR MORE
THAN TWENTY YEARS MOST OF MY
WORK IS THE JUDGE. WAS MOSTLY
ENTRUST GROUP BASED IN
CONSERVATORSHIP. I'M IN MY FIFTH
YEAR AS A NEUTRAL DEALING
EXCLUSIVELY TRUST PROBATE AND
CONSERVATORSHIP MEDIATIONS I
KNOW THE COMMITTEE APPRECIATES
THE TIME HONORED SYSTEMS THAT
ARE IN PLACE IN THE JUDICIARY
THE CLOSELY SUPERVISED VIRTUALLY
EVERY ASPECT OF THE PERFORMANCE
OF A PRIVATE. PROFESSIONAL
FIDUCIARY AND THAT INCLUDES
EVERY SINGLE CONSERVATORSHIP
CASE IN CALIFORNIA. AS YOU MOST
OF YOU KNOW PRESS ALL OF YOU
EVERY COUNTY HAS A PROBATE JUDGE
IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY THERE ARE
NINE A MOST PROBATE JUDGES AND
ALL OF THEM IN THE MID TO LARGE
SIZED COUNTY HAVE LONG RESEARCH
ATTORNEYS AMADOR EXAMINERS. ALL
PROBABLY DEPARTMENTS HAVE A
PROBATE INVESTIGATION UNIT WHICH
THE FIELD INVESTIGATIONS ACROSS
EACH COUNTY AND THERE ACROSS
RITUALS ACROSS COUNTY LINES
THOSE INVESTIGATORS RECORDS
CONFIDENTIALLY AND DIRECTLY TO
THE JUDGE. JOE IN
CONSERVATORSHIP PROCEEDINGS THE
JUDGES ACT IN PARENTS PATRIA
WHICH- EFFECTIVELY MADE THEIR
ACTING AS A SUPER COULD DO
SHERRY. CAN CERTAINLY A
CONSERVATIVE LIVE AND FINANCE
ARE BIG MANAGED AT EVERY TURN IN
VERY. THAT SHOULD WITH
PROFESSIONALS WHO DO- THE ARE AS
- REQUIRED. STATUS HEARINGS ALL
OF THE CASES WITH VERY DETAILED
FULL ACCOUNTING WHICH INCLUDED
ALL THE INCOME DISBURSEMENTS
DISTRIBUTIONS CHANGES IN THE
FORM OF ASSETS LIABILITIES WHICH
OF COURSE WE REVIEW BY FOR WHY.
THOSE REPORTS AND ACCOUNTANTS
ARE WIDELY DISTRIBUTED AND SET
FOR OPEN COURT HEARING. IN
PROBATE TRUSTS THE
CONSIDERATIONS ANYBODY- MITCHELL
SAID PARTY CAN APPEAL COURT ON
THE DAY OF THE HEARING AND BE
HEARD YOU DON'T HAVE TO LAWYER.
UP YOU YOU JUST WALKING A
PROBATE AND- I IN PROBATION-
THERE ARE OFTEN COUNTIES WERE
REQUIRE TO WIN A ISSUE UNDER
YOU'RE JUST COMPLY AND DEEP. AS
YOU CAN SEE ACCOUNTS SO- THOSE
DISCIPLINES ARE PROBABLY YOU CAN
. IT'S THE ONLY LEGAL FIELD IN
WHICH A JUDGE CAMERA UP LET OR-
IN INTERESTED PARTY COULD BE A
WELL OF WHO BE A FOR. THAT COULD
BE A- AND- READ IT AND TO THE
INVEST UNIT FOR A POOR OR STRAY
UP TO GET AN ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE
. SOME THERE'S COST OVER OF
PROFESSIONAL DO SHERRY WITHIN
THE COURTS. THERE'S A FOR DEEP
WITH THEM WITH YOUR THERE WERE
REPEAL THEIR CALL- TO OBJECT.
TO- THEIR PUSH. MATTERS TO BE A
BEST UNIT SETTING HEARINGS SO-
MY PITCH IF THERE IS SUCH A
THING TO ASK COMMITTEE TO BE
VERY CARS. TO TRY NOT TO ROUGHLY
. THE PROCESS. DO PUT
ADMINISTRATIVE OVERSIGHT AND AS
FOR. WAS HAS. WAIT OUT IN ON THE
ISSUE SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOUR TIME THANK YOU JUDGE.
THANKS PLEASE. HERE WE HAVE ONE
ELSE CUTEST. THANK YOU VERY.
LET'S NOW BEGIN THE PRISON ON
THE DENTAL HYGIENE BOARD OF CAL
.
I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ALL
TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES STARTING
MY LEFT YOU'RE RIGHT. MA'AM THAT
YOU WHEN YOU'RE READY. OF
PRESIDENT OF THE DENTAL HYGIENE
BOARD A DOES GOOD TO HAVE YOU
HERE AND I AM ANTHONY LOAN THE
EXECUTIVE OFFICER THE DODGING
BOARD LONG THANK YOU FOR JOINING
US PLEASE THANK YOU SO MUCH
PLEASE PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY
. OKAY I JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME
BACKGROUND I DON'T KNOW IF MY
MICROPHONE IS ON ITS SIDE. IN
THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS THE
JOINT LEGISLATIVE SUNSET REVIEW
COMMITTEE DETERMINED THAT DENTAL
HYGIENE DENTAL HYGIENISTS HAD
REACHED A POINT WHERE THE
RESPONSIBILITIES WARRANTED AN
INDEPENDENT REGULATORY BODY.
THAT WAS SEPARATE FROM THE
DENTAL BOARD OF CALIFORNIA WITH
THE PASSAGE OF SENATE BILL EIGHT
FIFTY THREE IN TWO THOUSAND
EIGHT THE DENTAL HYGIENE
COMMITTEE OF CALIFORNIA WAS
CREATED AND ESTABLISHED ON JULY
FIRST TWO THOUSAND NINE.
ALTHOUGH TITLE THE COMMITTEE. IT
OPERATED AS AN INDEPENDENT BOARD
. IN TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN AFTER
TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN SUNSET
REVIEW AND THE PASSAGE OF SB
EIGHT FOURTEEN EIGHTY TWO. THE
COMMITTEE BECAME THE DENTAL
HYGIENE BOARD OF CALIFORNIA
IDENTIFYING US AS A SEPARATE
AUTONOMOUS GOVERNMENT AGENCY.
THE BOARD IS MANDATED TO OVERSEE
THE CALIFORNIA DENTAL HYGIENE
LICENSEE POPULATION AND
EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT
PREPARE STUDENTS FOR ENTRANCE
INTO THE PROFESSION. ALSO THE
BOARD IS THE ONLY INDEPENDENT
DENTAL HYGIENE REGULATORY BOARD
OF ITS KIND IN THE UNITED STATES
. THE BOARD HAS STATUTORY
RESPONSIBILITY WITHIN THE
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS CODE
FOR THE OVERSIGHT OF THREE
LICENSING CATEGORIES OF DENTAL
HYGIENISTS. THOSE ARE DON'T HATE
THE REGISTERED DENTAL HYGIENIST
IN ALTERNATIVE PRACTICE AND
REGISTERED DENTAL HYGIENIST IN
EXTENDED FUNCTIONS. YOU NEED TO
CALIFORNIA IS THE REGISTERED
DENTAL HYGIENIST IN ALTERNATIVE
PRACTICE TO PROVIDE DENTAL
HYGIENE SERVICES NURSING HOME.
TO HOME BOUND PATIENTS SCHOOLS
RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES AND IN
FEDERALLY ESTABLISHED
UNDERSERVED AREAS CALLED DENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE
AREAS OR GIPSON. WE'RE
INDIVIDUALS RESIDING IN THESE
PLACES HAVE DIFFICULTY.
ACCESSING AND OBTAINING DENTAL
CARE. WE FOUND THAT A MAJORITY
OF DENTAL PRACTITIONERS MIGRATE
TO MORE POPULATED AREAS OF THE
STATE WHERE JOBS ARE AVAILABLE
AND HAVE BETTER SALARIES. WELL
RT HCP'S PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED
DENTAL CARE IN RURAL AREAS WHERE
DENTAL PRACTICES ARE SPARSE. THE
BOARD IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR
THE OVERSIGHT AND APPROVAL OF
ALL DENTAL HYGIENE EDUCATIONAL
PROGRAMS IN CALIFORNIA WHICH
CONSIST OF TWENTY NINE PROGRAMS.
BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE
LOCATED WITHIN COMMUNITY
COLLEGES BUT MANY ARE PRIVATELY
OWNED AS WELL. WE'VE BEEN VERY
PROACTIVE OVER THE LAST SEVEN
YEARS IN REVIEWING THE PROGRAMS
TO ENSURE THEY ARE COMPLIANT OF
THE LAW. TO DATE ALL TWENTY NINE
PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN REVIEW
THROUGH SITE VISITS AND THOSE
THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS BEING
DEFICIENT OF THE LAW ARE WORKING
TOWARDS COMPLIANCE. AS A SELF
REGULATING AGENCY WE HAVE THE
AUTHORITY OVER ALL ASPECTS OF
LICENSURE. THE **** THIS
INCLUDES THE APPROVAL OF
APPLICATIONS FOR LICENSURE LAW
AND ETHICS EXAMINATION LICENSE
RENEWALS ENFORCEMENT AND
CONTINUING EDUCATION AUDIT. THE
BOARD PERFORMS THESE FUNCTIONS
TO ENSURE ENTRY LEVEL COMPETENCY
OF ITS APPLICANTS AND CONTINUED
COMPETENT COMPETENCY OF ITS
LICENSING FOR CONSUMER
PROTECTION. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE REGULATION AND OVERSIGHT
OF OVER THIRTY SIX THOUSAND
LICENSES AND PERMITS ISSUED IN
ALL THREE LICENSURE CATEGORIES.
OF THE LICENSE OF THE ISSUED
LICENSES THERE IS AN OVERALL
AVERAGE OF 1-900-022-0000 ACTIVE
LICENSES. THE BOARD IS COMMITTED
TO CARRY OUT ITS VISION TO
PROVIDE ACCESS TO QUALITY DENTAL
HYGIENE CARE FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS WHAT CONTINUING ITS
MISSION OF CONSUMER PROTECTION.
CONSUMER PROTECTION IS ALSO
VITAL TO ENSURE APPLICANTS
ENTERING THE PRISON. PROFESSION
ARE QUALIFIED AN EXISTING
LICENSEES ARE COMPETENT TO
PROVIDE SAFE DENTAL HYGIENE
SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC. AGAIN
WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND YOUR
STAFF FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR
BOARD. AND WE WELCOME ANY
QUESTIONS THANK YOU THE
COMPONENTS. LET ME JUST KICK IT
OFF WITH A COUPLE- ON ISSUE
NUMBER THREE IT TALKS ABOUT-
RESTRICTIVE TEMPORARY LICENSES
FOR MILITARY SPOUSES THE
BACKGROUND SAYS YOU HAVEN'T
RECEIVED ANY APPLICANTS
ATTEMPTING TO USE MILITARY
EDUCATION AND TRAINING THE
MAJORITY OF APPLICATIONS FOR
LICENSURE FROM ACTIVE DUTY
MILITARY SPOUSES. YES MY
QUESTION IS THIS DO YOU TRACK
HOW LONG IT TAKES AN APPLICATION
. FOR FROM A MILITARY SPOUSE TO
BE PROCESSED AND A TEMPORARY
LICENSE AWARDED. I'LL DEFER TO.
YEAH I GUESS WE DO- OF GERMAN
OFF AND- THE INFORMATION THAT I
HAVE. IS SO WE DON'T RECEIVE A
WHOLE LOT OF THEM. BUT OF THE
ONES THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED- IN
ACCUMULATING THAT THE TOLLS FROM
LAST YEAR WAS SEVENTEEN IN TOTAL
SEVENTEEN MILITARY SPOUSE
APPLICATION YES. AND THE TIME TO
TAKE TO PROCESS THOSE- FROM THE
INITIAL TIME DEPENDING UPON IF
THEY IF THE APPLICANT- PROVIDES
ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE
NEEDED TO PROCESS THAT
APPLICATION- AND THEY GET FIRST
PRIORITY OF COURSE YOU PUT INTO
THE FRONT. OF FOR A COMPLETE
APPLICATION IS ABOUT EIGHT DAYS
. FOR INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS-
THE AVERAGE WAS ABOUT SEVENTEEN
DAYS. AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS
THE SAME ISSUE I RAISED WITH
THE- FIRST PANEL I THINK ON
TRYING TO TRACK SO. SO IS IT
SEVENTEEN DAYS FROM THE DATE THE
APPLICATION THE INITIAL
APPLICATION PAPERWORK WHATEVER
THAT IS HEY I WANT TO APPLY TO
SOMETHING MORE FORMAL. IT'S
SEVENTEEN DAYS FROM THE DATE YOU
RECEIVE THAT TO THE DATE THE
TEMPORARY LICENSES ISSUED THAT
IS THE AVERAGE THAT WE FOR THE
AVERAGE THE AVERAGE YES BECAUSE-
OUR APPLICATIONS WHEN WE RECEIVE
THEM THEY'RE SO. RELIANT ON THE
OUTLOOK APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ALL
OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE
NEEDED SO SOMETIMES THERE'S
QUITE A BIT OF BACK AND FORTH
COMMUNICATION IN ORDER TO GET
THOSE REQUIREMENTS SUBMITTED TO
US FOR REVIEW WELL LISTEN I
THINK SEVENTEEN DAYS IS GREAT. I
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.
WITH YOU OR ANY OTHER BORDER
BUREAU THAT WERE ABLE TO-
IDENTIFY WHERE THE LOG JAM IS IF
THERE IS A LOG JAM AND I CAN
ASSURE YOU THAT THERE ARE SOME
TO TAKE WAY MORE THAN SEVENTEEN
DAYS THÀNH. THE GENERATE
ANYTHING SO THAT WAS JUST MY
QUESTION ON THAT- YOU RAISE THE
ISSUE OF- PRACTISING DENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE
AREAS IN ISSUE NUMBER FIVE.
RAISES A FURTHER ISSUE ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A
STANDALONE DENTAL HYGIENE
PRACTICE IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS.
AND THE DESIGNATION GOES WAY.
CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT AND WHAT
DO WE NEED TO DO SURE SO OF. THE
WAY THE DENTAL HYGIENE RT H. A.
P. AS WE CALL IT ALTERNATIVE
PRACTICE WORKS IS THAT THEY CAN
OPEN THEIR OWN. PRACTICE IN A-
OUR AREA THAT'S DESIGNATED AS
UNDERSERVED. THE PROBLEM IS-
THERE'S RIGHT NOW. IF THE AREA
WAS TO BE- UNDESIGNATED. AND
THEN THEY COULD LOSE THEIR
PRACTICE THEY WOULD HAVE TO MOVE
OUT OF THE AREA. AND SO- THEY'RE
PROVIDING THIS CARE THEY'VE
BUILT THIS PRACTICE THEY'VE YOU
KNOW TO SERVE THE UNDERSERVED
BUT IF ANOTHER DENTIST WOULD
MOVE INTO THE AREA AND ALL OF A
SUDDEN IT GETS CHANGED- THEY
LOSE THEIR- OF. THEIR BUSINESS
BASICALLY- AND SO THIS IS AN
ISSUE FOR. FOR THE RT HEP. AND
IF I MAY IT TO TAKE OUT ON ON
TOP OF THAT- THE- ATP LICENSE
CATEGORY COULD BE IF THEY OPEN
UP A BUSINESS IT COULD BE SELF
DETRIMENTAL FOR THEM. THEY GO
INTO AN AREA THAT'S- IDENTIFIED
AS AN UNDERSERVED AREA OR TIPS-
AND THE PROFESSOR PROVIDING
THEIR SERVICES. THEN ALL OF A
SUDDEN YOU KNOW WHEN THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT RE EVALUATES WHETHER
IT'S AN UNDERSERVED AREA.
BECAUSE THE DENTAL HYGIENIST HAS
BEEN PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES IT
MAY BE CATEGORIZE IT AS NO
LONGER. UNDERSERVED AREA AND
UNDER THE CURRENT LAW- IF IT'S
CHANGED THEN THAT LICENSE HE
WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE THAT
PRESSURE LIMÓN INCENTIVE TO PICK
UP AND MOVE INTO ONE OF THOSE
THERE IS AN OPEN PRACTICE. TO
HELP COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS YOUR
BERMAN QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT
SO SHOULD WE GRANDFATHER
GRANDMOTHER. A. N. AS LO THESE
ACRONYMS AND OUR DAD IN THAT
DIPS- THAT'S NO LONGER A
DIVERSE- BECAUSE OF THE- THAT
CHANGED AS A- I BELIEVE THAT
WOULD BE THE IDEAL- BECAUSE THEY
PUT THEIR LIFE SAVINGS INTO
THESE. POTENTIAL ACTRESSES AND-
SO YES WOULD YOU THINK IT- A
PERMANENT. RAND FATHER MOTHER IN
OR FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME
ANY. THOUGHTS ON. DURATION I'M
MY PERSONAL THOUGHT IS THAT. YOU
KNOW THERE'S THERE SHOULD BE A
TIME LIMIT I MEAN THESE
INDIVIDUALS GO IN THERE IT'S
LIKE STARTING UP A SMALL
BUSINESS. THEY GET THEIR
CLIENTELE AND THEIR CLIENT BASES
TO WHERE THEY PUT THEIR-
RECEIVING THE DENTAL CARE THAT
THEY NEED. BUT YOU KNOW IF THAT
DESIGNATION GOES AWAY IN THE AT
THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS. WELL THEN
AGAIN THREE YEARS LATER FOR YOU
THREE CATEGORIZE BACK INTO AND
UNDERSERVED AREA. WILL THAT
LICENSE TO COME BACK TO PROVIDE
SERVICES I HIGHLY DOUBT IF
THEY'RE FORCED TO CLOSE THE
FIRST TIME. THANKS HAVE YOU BEEN
IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS SPACE TO.
AND YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE. WE'VE
HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS.
INFORMAL CONVERSATIONS I MIGHT
ADD BUT THE MAIN REASON- THAT I
WANTED TO BRING THIS TO THE
COMMITTEE ATTENTION. IS BECAUSE
I'VE HEARD FROM NUMEROUS
LICENSEES WHO WOULD LOVE TO OPEN
UP A PRACTICE IN UNDERSERVED
AREA BUT THEY'RE AFRAID TO
BECAUSE OF THIS LAW. I SEE.
COLLEAGUES ANY QUESTIONS CENTER
CHILLA YES THANK YOU AND- THANK
YOU FOR RECOGNIZING OUR
VETERANS. WHO ARE MARRIED TO A
SPOUSE THAT IS BILLION. WHO IS
LOOKING TO CONTINUE. PROVIDING
AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE FAMILY.
N. SO COURSE BEING THE CHAIR OF
THE MILITARY MATTERS COMMITTEE
AND- MY COMMITTEE MEMBER ALSO
SITS TO MY RIGHT. AND WE'RE ALSO
VERY CONCERNED ABOUT BRINGING
THAT ADDED INCOME TO THE FAMILY.
WHEN THEY'RE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO
OUR HIGH COST OF LIVING. HERE IN
CALIFORNIA NO COMMENT FROM TEXAS
OR- SOME OF THE PARTS OF THE
COUNTRY. AND THAT WIFE OR
HUSBAND WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE OR
PARTNER NEEDS TO GET THAT
LICENSES QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO
I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT MINUTE
YOU SEE THAT IT'S A SPOUSE OF A
VETERAN. ACTIVE DUTY MEMBER THAT
YOU QUICKLY EXPEDITE THAT AS
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO YOU DON'T
MISS MISS A BEAT BECAUSE THIRTY
DAYS THAT'S RENT THAT FAMILY THE
CHILDREN. AND UP IN A SUCCESS ON
THE OTHER SIDE HOLLINS IT TAKE
TO GET THAT TEMPORARY INTO A
PERMANENT BECAUSE SOMETIMES NOW.
THE VETERAN. IS STATION FOR
THREE YEARS AT A SHOT. ALL OF
THAT TO GET RID OVER IS THAT
RETESTING AGAIN GO FROM
TEMPORARY TO PERMANENT. I'M AT
THE CURRENT TIME WE HAVEN'T
LOOKED INTO THAT ASPECT OF IT
BECAUSE WITH THIS TEMPORARY
LICENSE AND THE REGULATIONS THAT
WERE PROPOSING BEING SO NEW.
THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN
LOOK AT TO SEE HOW THEY CAN.
MAYBE BE EXPEDITED INTO ROLLING
INTO A PERMANENT- LICENSE AS
OPPOSED TO JUST THE TEMPORARY-
BECAUSE THE WAY THAT THE- THE
CURRENT REGULATIONS ARE SET UP
IS THAT THAT TEMPORARY LICENSE
WOULD ONLY LAST SO LONG. AND
THEN THEY WOULD BE FORCED TO
ROLL INTO A PERMANENT LICENSE
BUT IT'S AN ASPECT THAT I WILL
NOTATE AND WE WILL RESEARCH AND
GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT AND WITH
THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE
MILITARY- BASES RIGHT NOW
THEY'RE ASKING- THE
NONCOMMISSIONED OFFICERS AND
ABOVE. TO BE PREPARED TO STAY AT
THAT LOCATION FOR THREE YEARS OR
LONGER IF THEY RE UNLESS. SOLD
TO QUICKLY ROLL OVER INTO FROM
IT. WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED
THANK YOU. WHAT ARE THIS WHAT
ARE THE STEPS IF I'M IF I HAVE A
TEMPORARY LICENSE. AND I'M
PRACTICING IN A- UNDERSERVED
AREA FOR EXAMPLE. WHAT HAPPENS
AT THE END OF THREE YEARS WHAT
DO I HAVE TO DO. WELL THE RTA
SLICE AND ONE LICENSED IN THE
STATE OF GEORGIA AND I PRACTICED
IN GEORGIA FOR THREE YEARS OR
FOUR OR FIVE OR TEN. AND SO IT'S
NOT LIKE I DON'T HAVE A TRACK
RECORD I COME HERE WITH MY
MILITARY MEMBER. SPOUSE AND I
SEND MY PAPERWORK TO YOU AND
WITHIN SEVENTEEN. DAYS I GET MY
TEMPORARY LICENSE AND I. I'M MY
MILITARY MEMBERS SPOUSES AT
TWENTY NINE PALMS AND I GO OUT
TO SOMEWHERE IN. COACHELLA OR
DOES IT CENTER AND SET UP MY-
DENTAL HYGIENE PRACTICE AND- NOW
I'M ROLLING THROUGH THREE YEARS
AND I'M ABOUT TO ROLAND FOR WHAT
DO I HAVE TO DO HERE. PRIOR TO
THE WAY THE CURRENT LAWS SET UP
PRIOR TO USE THAT TEMPORARY
LICENSE EXPIRING. SAY SIX MONTHS
PRIOR TO. THEY WOULD PROBABLY
NEED TO USE THE NORMAL PATHWAYS
TO LICENSURE. FOR PERMANENT
LICENSE. MEANING THAT YOU THEY
WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT THE- WHAT
WE WOULD HAVE THE PROOF OF
EDUCATION AND EVERYTHING FOR THE
TEMPORARY LICENSE. SO A
NOTIFICATION THAT WE HAVE THAT
THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS A TEMPORARY
LICENSE. AND WOULD LIKE TO
TRANSITION TO THE PERMANENT
LICENSE. THEY NEED TO FILL OUT
THE APPLICATION IDENTIFY THAT
YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT THEIR
INTENT IS. IN THE NORMAL
LICENSURE PROCESS WOULD OCCUR.
IF THEY HAVE EXAMINATION RESULTS
THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO USE WE
CAN STILL USE THOSE- IN REGARDS
TO ROLLING OUT OVER INTO THE
PERMANENT LICENSE ACCORDING TO
THE- CURRENT LAW- EXAMINATION
RESULTS ARE REQUIRED. CURRENTLY
YES BUT YOU DON'T REVIEW THOSE
FOR THE TEMPORARY LICENSE. OF
THE TEMPORARY LICENSE- BECAUSE
THAT PERSON IS ALREADY LICENSED
IN ANOTHER STATE OR
JURISDICTION. THAT'S WHAT WE
WOULD BASED OF THE TEMPORARY
LICENSE OFF OF AN WOULD YOU USE
THE EXAMINATION RESULTS FROM IN
MY CASE THE STATE OF GEORGIA TO.
ADMIT ME HERE WITH A PERMANENT
LICENSE ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT
LAWS I WOULD HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO
LICENSURE PATHWAYS ONE IS THE
EXAMINATION PATHWAY. WHERE WE
USED CLINICAL EXAM RESULT. IF
YOU IT IN USING YOUR EXAMPLE OF
BEING LICENSE FOR THREE YEARS.
THERE'S ANOTHER PATHWAY FOR
LICENSE INDIVIDUALS FROM ANOTHER
STATE TO COME INTO CALIFORNIA TO
WORK AND THAT'S A LICENSURE BY
CREDENTIAL. AND WE BASED IT OFF
OF IS THEIR WORK EXPERIENCE
HOWEVER. THERE'S ABOUT TWO PARTS
TO THE LEICESTER BY CREDENTIAL
ASPECT. ONE IS- IF THE
INDIVIDUAL HAS WORKED IN THEIR
STATE A JURISDICTION FOR A
MINIMUM OF FIVE YEARS. AT SEVEN
HUNDRED FIFTY HOURS PER YEAR
THEN WE CAN USE THAT WORK
EXPERIENCE COMING TO CALIFORNIA.
TO OBTAIN A PERMANENT LICENSE
HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE ON THE
AVERAGE TO THE PROCESS. AGAIN WE
COULD BECAUSE WE DON'T BREAK IT
DOWN BY THAT AND IT'S RELIANT ON
THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT ALL OF
THEIR REQUIREMENTS. IT IT VARIES
BUT RIGHT NOW- I BELIEVE WE'RE
AT ABOUT SIX WEEKS. FROM THE
INITIAL TO OF BEING ABLE TO
ISSUE THE LICENSE- NOT TOO BAD
BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS WE HAVE A-
NINETY DAYS TO IT INITIALLY
CONTACT. THE APPLICANT SO WE'RE
DOING PRETTY GOOD AS FAR AS-
PROCESSING APPLICATIONS. AND
THEN THE OTHER CAVEAT WITH THE
LICENSURE BY CREDENTIAL IS THAT
. A LICENSEE FROM OUT OF STATE.
COULD ONLY HAVE THREE YEARS OF
WORK EXPERIENCE HOWEVER IF THEY
SIGN A CONTRACT. TO WORK IN A
PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCY. THEN THAT
CONTRACT WOULD MAKE UP FOR THOSE
ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS AND IN ONE
FINAL QUESTION THEN I'LL GO BACK
TO MY COLLEAGUES APOLOGIZED- ARE
THE MILITARY OF SPOUSE.
APPLICANTS APPLICANTS FOR THE
TEMPORARY LICENSE. INFORMED AT
THE TIME THAT THEY APPLY OR AT
LEAST IT AT THE TIME THAT THEY
RECEIVED. IS THAT NEED TO BE
FOLLOWED IN ORDER TO CONVERT
TEMPORARY. TO PERMANENT- IF THEY
FIGURE OUT THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE
HERE MORE THAN THREE YEARS. AT
THE CURRENT TIME BECAUSE THE
TEMPORARY LICENSE IS BRAND NEW
IT'S INFORMATION THAT WE CAN
DISSEMINATE OUT TO THEM- IN
MOVING FORWARD BUT BECAUSE THE
TEMPER LICENSE HAS BEEN-
ACTUALLY NOT EVEN INITIATED YET-
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD
TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. IN THE
INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD CENTER
I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE VERY
HELPFUL TO THE MILITARY SPOUSE
WHO RECEIVES A TEMPORARY LICENSE
AT SOME POINT TO BE TOLD. YOU
KNOW REMINDED THAT THIS IS THE
LAST THREE YEARS AND- THE
PROCESS FOR. OBTAINING
CONVERTING THE TEMPORARY TO
PERMANENT LICENSE CAN TAKE UP TO
X. WHATEVER X. IS USE OF LIKE
YOU ARE PRETTY FAST. AND SERVE
OUTLINED GENERALLY THE PATHWAY
AND PROVIDE A CONTACT NUMBER
WEBSITE. SO THE MILITARY SPOUSE
CAN GO GET A HEAD START ON THIS
PROCESS. BEFORE THEY RUN OUT OF
GAS IN THE GAS TANK. THE
COLLEAGUES FOR THE QUESTIONS
SEVEN MORE- LET ME FOLLOW UP ON
THAT THE MILITARY IN THE
VETERANS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO ALL
OF US- SOMEONE'S IN THE MILITARY
ACTIVE DUTY AND THEY'RE A DENTAL
ASSISTANT. OR THEY'RE BEEN DOING
WORK WITH THE DENTIST WHATEVER
IT IS. THE TIME TO TRAINING THE
MILITARY TRAINING THEY RECEIVED
IS THAT SPILL OVER INTO HELPING
THEM. WITH THE LICENSE IN THEIR
PROCESS- TO GET A LICENSE IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA THESE ARE
THE HYGIENIST OF. YEAH WITH
RESPECT DIGENIS YES YEAH THE GUY
GENIS. UNFORTUNATELY THE CURRENT
LAW DOESN'T. HAVE ANY PROVISION
FOR US TO ACCEPT THAT. RT RT
EIGHT TRAINING THAT THEY RECEIVE
IN THE MILITARY- OUR LAWS ARE
PRETTY SPECIFIC IN THAT- YOU
KNOW AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE TO
GRADUATE FROM A DENTAL HYGIENE
PROGRAM THAT'S- A NATIONALLY
ACCREDITED. OR AND BOARD
APPROVED. SO THE MILITARY
ASPECTS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WAY
OF KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE
DONE- IT'S DIFFICULT TO GIVEN
THAT CREDIT. TO APPLY TOWARDS A
CALIFORNIA LICENSE SO I CAN SEE
WE HAVE TO BRIDGE THAT TOGETHER.
SO YOU'LL BE AWARE OF WHAT'S THE
BIG WE HAVE A HIGH DENNIS IN THE
IN THE MILITARY WE HAVE TO. GO
THEY'VE GOT OF THE DONE WORK AND
IF THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR
THREE YEARS OR SO. I MEAN WE
SHOULD FIND A WAY TO ROLE THAT
EDUCATION OVER IN TO THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA- BECAUSE I'M
ASSUMING WE CAN USE ALL THE-
PEOPLE- IN THE MEDICAL FIELD
DENEL- FIELD EVERYONE ELSE AND
IF WE CAN REACH OVER. GRAB SOME
OF OUR- PERSONNEL MILITARY
PERSONNEL OTHER ABOUT TO GET
OUT. YOU CAN WALK RIGHT INTO A
PROFESSION. I THINK IT'S A GREAT
OPPORTUNITY WOULD YOU LOOK INTO
THAT FOR ME SURE VERY GOOD THANK
YOU I ASSUME IF THEY'RE
HYGIENIST AND THERE'S A
LICENSING REQUIREMENT IN THE
STATE THEY'RE LICENSED IN
ANOTHER STATE SO THEN THEY
WOULD. QUALIFY UNDER THE PROCESS
THAT YOU'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT
WHICH IS COMING IN. EITHER WITH
THE CREDENTIAL OR WITH AN EXAM.
CORRECT IN THE CALIFORNIA S.
AGES. IN THE MOS. YEAH YEAH AND
THERE THERE IS ONE CLARIFICATION
THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP AS FAR
AS THE RGA MILITARY TRAINING. IF
THEY'RE IF THEY'RE RECEIVING THE
TRAINING THAT SPECIFIC JUST LIKE
IT'S OUTLINED IN CALIFORNIA OF
THE OF THE PROCEDURES THAT THEY
DO. THOSE ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT
THAN WHAT A DENTAL HYGIENIST-
SERVICES ARE. SO WHICH IS
PROBABLY AN A AN ISSUE THAT YOU
KNOW CAN BE DISCUSSED AND
DELIBERATED ABOUT. BUT THEY'RE.
TOTALLY DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF SO
FAR AS- WHAT THE TRAINING IS.
OKAY THANK YOU SO REMEMBER JOE.
THANK YOU CHAIR- IN PRIOR.
REVIEWS U. S. STRUGGLE TO MEET
STATUTORY MANDATES- DUE TO
STAFFING SHORTAGES- WHICH FOR
SIX RECIPROCATED YOU- GAINING
APPROVAL- FOR BUDGET CHANGES TO.
HAVE NEW STAFF THE- OTHERS ARE
USE WHAT DID THAT SOLVE THE
PROBLEM. ARE YOU STILL
STRUGGLING TO MEET STATUTORY
MANDATES. NO IT'S FAR AS A
STAFFING ISSUE WAS CONCERNED I
LIKE TO SAY WAS BECAUSE IT'S IN
THE PAST- SINCE THAT TIME OF OUR
LAST SUNSET- AND WITH THE HELP
OF THIS COMMITTEE AT THE TIME-
WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN STAFF.
AND SINCE SINCE THE LESSONS THAT
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO- SUBMIT. A
BUDGET CHANGE PROPOSALS FOR
ADDITIONAL STAFF AT THAT HAVE
BEEN APPROVED. SOURCE STAFFING
IS MOVING ALONG NICELY. AND IN
TERMS OF YOU BEATING YOUR
STATUTORY MANDATES HAS THAT
SOLVE THE PROBLEM. YES OKAY.
SECONDLY TIEBREAK SUPERVISION
REQUIREMENTS- WELL ARE YOU
LOOKING AT ANY POTENTIAL CHANGES
TO YOUR DIRECT SUPERVISION
REQUIREMENTS AT THIS TIME. YES
THE DIRECT SUPERVISION IS
BASICALLY LIMITED TO THREE
SERVICES AND THAT WE CALL IT S.
ELAN BUT IT'S TOUGH TO SECURITAS
LOCAL ANESTHESIA ADMINISTRATION
AND NITROUS OXIDE OXYGEN
ANALGESIA. AND ALL THREE OF
THOSE FUNCTIONS ARE CURRENTLY
UNDER THE DIRECT SUPERVISION OF
A LICENSED DENTIST. AND WHAT WE
WOULD LIKE TO MODIFY IS TO HAVE.
THE SAFETY SECURITAS AND THE
LOCAL ANESTHESIA. TO CHANGE TO
WHERE THE SUPERVISING DENTIST
HAS THE PREROGATIVE TO DETERMINE
THE LEVEL OF SUPERVISION WHETHER
IT'S DIRECT SUPERVISION OR
GENERAL SUPERVISION- THE
SUPERVISING DENTIST KNOWS THEIR
QUALIFICATIONS OF THE HYGIENIST
STAFF. AND HOW THEY WORK AND HOW
COMFORTABLE THEY ARE IN
ADMINISTERING THOSE THOSE
SERVICES SO IT IT KIND OF MAKES
SENSE TO US THAT- BY CHANGING IT
FROM ALWAYS DIRECT SUPERVISION
TO NOW ALLOWING THE DENTIST TO
MAKE THAT DECISION- SEEMS LIKE
IT'S- A GOOD CHOICE FOR THE
PRACTICE. AND YOU BELIEVE THAT
IT DOESN'T WARRANT A PILOT OF
ANY SORT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT
THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES- WOULD BE OPEN TO
DISCUSSING THAT I MEAN IT'S OKAY
I'M JUST ASKING YOU KNOW. AS
SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN SUPERVISED
BEFORE AS A SOCIAL WORKER I'M
JUST YOU KNOW. WONDERING WHAT
YOUR YOUR GUYS YOUR THOUGHTS ARE
ON THAT WELL I HAVE TO SAY THAT
THE ALREADY H. A. P. DESIGNATION
THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED TO
ADMINISTER ANESTHESIA- UNDER
GENERAL SUPERVISION. AND AND IN
THE PAST WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY
ISSUES OR ANY NEGATIVE REPORTS
WITH WITH WITH RESPECT TO HIGH
GENEST IN DENTAL OFFICES- GIVING
ANESTHESIA SO. I'M WE FEEL THAT
THAT THAT THE OVERSIGHT. IF THE
DENTIST IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE
OVERSIGHT- OR- YOU KNOW ALLOWING
THE HYGIENIST TO DO THE
ADMINISTRATION OF ANESTHESIA.
UNDER GENERAL THEN THEY CAN
CHOOSE TO DO THAT FOR THAT
REASON MMHM AND THERE'S BEEN
MANY- THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
DISCUSSION ABOUT WHEN. DENTISTS
ARE NOT IN THE OFFICE. AND THE
HIGH JENIS THAT THE PATIENT
SHOWS UP NEEDS ANESTHESIA BUT
THEY CAN'T DELIVER IT BECAUSE
THE DOCTOR IS AN ONSITE. AND SO
THE PATIENT HAS TO LEAVE AND
RESCHEDULE AND IT IT'S REALLY-
IT'S FOR THE PATIENTS IT'S
INCONVENIENT. AND FOR THE HIGH
GENEST IT'S- YOU KNOW. THEY HAVE
TO. PLAN THEIR DAYS ACCORDINGLY
AND SO THAT COULD BE DISRUPTIVE.
FROM SERBIAN CONVENIENT IF THEY
DON'T WAKE UP TOO RIGHT WELL
THEY WOULDN'T BE ASLEEP IT'S-
USUALLY. HIS LOCAL NOT NOT THE
NATURE YES- GLOBAL IT'S YEAH
WE'RE WE'RE ALL ONE EARLY I
DON'T KNOW. THE MOTHER- OKAY
THANK YOU I JUST WANTED TO HAVE
A DISCUSSION YOU THANK YOU SIR A
CENTERS FOLLOWED QUICKNESS.
THANK YOU- MISTER CHAIR I WILL
HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR- YOUR
VACANCY RATES IN THIS IN THE IN
THE SECTOR OVERALL SOME OF THAT
LOCAL DENNIS AND- MY COMMUNITY
OFTEN TALK ABOUT THE SHORTAGES.
OF FINDING DENTAL HYGIENIST- HOW
MANY LICENSEES DO YOU HAVE IS
THERE A SENSE OF FORECAST WHAT
WILL- IN IN IN IN TERMS OF NEEDS
AND WHAT IS THE BOARD DOING TO
REALLY- INCREASE ITS-
APPLICANTS- IT IF IN THE SECTOR
. IN THE HEAD- I'M TO BE HONEST
OVER THE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS
OUR LICENSEE POPULATION HAS PUT
STAYED PRETTY CONSISTENT BETWEEN
THE NINETEEN THOUSAND AND TWENTY
THOUSAND ACTIVE LICENSEES THAT
WE HAVE. THAT WAS DUE TO THE
PANDEMIC WE HAD A NUMBER OF-
THAT DID NOT RETURN TO WORK-
BECAUSE OF THAT SITUATION. AND
WE HAVE A POOL OF QUITE A FEW
HUNDRED THAT ARE AT OF
RETIREMENT AGE SO. A LOT OF THEM
HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR US TO
INITIATE A RETIRED LICENSE
CATEGORY WHICH WE JUST
IMPLEMENTED AS OF THE FIRST OF
THIS YEAR. SO WE HAVE A- A FEW
HUNDRED LICENSEES THAT ARE READY
TO DO THAT- BUT THAT SLIGHT
DECLINE JUST KIND OF BALANCES
OUT OF WITH THE GRADUATING
STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE. WHICH ARE
ROUGHLY AROUND EIGHT TO NINE
HUNDRED STUDENTS PER YEAR. AND
THEN YEAH THE UNKNOWN VARIABLE
IS HOW MANY APPLICATIONS WE GET
FROM OUT OF STATE. THAT MAKES UP
THE DIFFERENCE NORMALLY ON ON AN
AVERAGE YEAR WILL RECEIVE
ROUGHLY BETWEEN ELEVEN HUNDRED
TWELVE HUNDRED APPLICATIONS. IN
TERMS OF THAT. B. PROMOTION OF
THE PROGRAM HOW YOU ALL DO YOUR
OUTREACH- M. AND I'M
PARTICULARLY THINKING ABOUT- YOU
TALKED ABOUT THE RULE
COMMUNITIES YOU TALKED ABOUT-
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES HOW ARE
YOU REACHING OUT TO THAT
DIVERSITY OF. OF POTENTIAL
APPLICANTS TO TWO YEAR TO YEAR-
OCCUPATION SO I WOULD HAVE TO
SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR
PROGRAMS ARE IN COMMUNITY
COLLEGES THAT HAVE DIVERSE
STUDENT BODIES- HISTORICALLY THE
DENTAL HYGIENE PROFESSION. HAS
NOT BEEN VERY DIVERSE BUT WE'VE
SEEN OVER THE RECENT YEARS THAT
IT'S STARTING TO REALLY TAKE ON-
MORE OF A DIVERSE POPULATION-
AND I THINK THAT THE- THE DENTAL
HYGIENE PROGRAMS ACTUALLY GO OUT
INTO THE COMMUNITIES AND
PROVIDE. SERVICES I COULD SAY TO
THE VETERANS AFFAIRS TO-
ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND WHAT HAVE
YOU SO THEY'RE GETTING THE WORD
OUT THAT WAY AND THEN THEY ALSO
GO INTO THE HIGH SCHOOLS TO
PROMOTE THE PROFESSION- SO. THAT
THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB
WITH THEM. WITH RECRUITING
STUDENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE A
WEIGHTLESS AT MOST SCHOOLS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT AND MY OTHER
QUESTION HAS TO DO ABOUT THE
EXAM THIRTY TO GET. CERTIFIED
YOU HAVE TO TAKE THREE SEPARATE
EXAMS. I SEE THAT YOU'RE TRYING
TO MAYBE ELIMINATE ONE OF THEM
WHERE THERE IS SOME OVERLAP CAN
YOU TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S
NECESSARY TO HAVE THREE SEPARATE
EXAMS THAT EACH HAVE A SEPARATE
FEE. FOR DENTAL HYGIENISTS IT
SEEMS LIKE A. ABERDEENSHIRE
APPLE OKAY. TO BE HONEST THE
THREE EXAMS THAT THEY HAVE IS A
NATIONAL EXAM WHICH IS BASICALLY
A WRITTEN EXAM. AND THEN THEY
HAVE A CLINICAL EXAM WHICH IN
THE PAST HAS BEEN SOMETHING
WHERE STUDENTS- ARE TESTED ON
LIVE PATIENTS- THANKS TO THE
PANDEMIC WE THE THEY GOT
SWITCHED FROM LIFE PATIENTS- TO
MANNEQUIN EXAMS AND THE BOARD IS
CURRENTLY TEMPORARILY ACCEPTING
THOSE RESULTS. AND THEN THE
THIRD EXAM IS A LOT AT THE EXAM
JUST SO THAT WAY THE GRADUATING
STUDENTS AND A POTENTIAL
LICENSEE. KNOWS ABOUT WHAT THE
PARAMETERS ARE WITH THE LICENSE
AS FAR AS THE LEGAL. ASPECT IS.
SO THE LAWN AT SIX SPECIFIC TO
CALIFORNIA OR THE LINE OKAY
SPECIFIC CALIFORNIA'S HEALTH A
SEPARATE OKAY PASSED. GOT IT GOT
IT AND SO THE WITH THE REGARDS
TO THE MANIC AN EXAM- WE HAD OPS
DO A SURVEY OR THE STUDY FIND
WHETHER THE- EXAM THE LIFE
PATIENT EXAM OF THE MANNEQUIN
EXAM WAS- WAS UP. LIKE A
STANDARDIZED EXAM FOR STUDENTS
AND THEY REALLY FOUND THAT IT
WASN'T SO- SO WE'RE LOOKING AT
WAYS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH THE WITH AN EXAM OR
NOT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE
DISTINCTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE
NOW YEAH WHAT WE HAVE IN THEM
TRYING TO. MOVE TO SUNSET IS
ACTUALLY TO ELIMINATE A CLINICAL
EXAM REQUIREMENT CURRENTLY THE-
AND RECENT PAST THE- STUDENTS
HAVE PASSED THE CLINICAL EXAM
WITH VERY HIGH RESULTS-
ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE PANDEMIC
YOU WERE LOOKING AT LIKE NINETY
EIGHT PERCENT. AND BECAUSE THE
SCHOOLS ARE TAUGHT AT A
COMPETENCY BASED LEVEL WHERE
THERE FACULTY- MAKE SURE THAT
THEY'RE QUALIFIED AND TRAINED
AND INSTRUCTED APPROPRIATELY
TANNER THE PROFESSION- THE HIGH
CLINICAL EXAM RESULTS IT JUST
SEEMS LIKE IS IT REALLY-
ANYTHING ADDING ON. TO THEIR
QUALIFICATIONS TO BECOME ALL THE
LICENSE INDIVIDUAL OR IS IT JUST
A HURDLE. SO WE FORMED A TASK
FORCE TO DETERMINE THAT AND-
BROUGHT IT TO OUR LICENSING AN
EXAMINATION COMMITTEE. TO VET
OUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BEFORE
THEY BROUGHT A RECOMMENDATION TO
THE FULL BOARD. AND THE RESULT
WAS THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS
TO ELIMINATE THE CLINICAL EXAM.
FOR APPLICANTS WHO APPLY FOR THE
LICENSE WITHIN THREE YEARS OF
GRADUATION. THANK YOU FOR THAT
WELCOME YOU'RE JUST LIVING. I
EXERCISE MY CHAIR PRIOR FOR
SECOND JUST FOLLOW UP ON THIS WE
SEE IN THIS AND OTHER BOARDS-
BUREAU SITUATIONS I ASSUME
DURING THE- CLINICAL PORTION OF
THE EDUCATION COMPONENT HERE.
THAT- DENTAL HYGIENE STUDENTS
ARE NOT WORKING ON MANIKINS.
THERE PERFORMING WORK ON LIVE
PATIENTS. YES IT IS A FAIRLY
EXTENSIVE WORK ON LIVE PATIENTS
THE EDUCATION THAT THEY RECEIVE
IS TWO YEARS IN LENGTH THEY
START WORKING ON PATIENTS- AT
THE AFTER THE FIRST SIX MONTHS.
SO THE REMAINING YEAR AND A HALF
IS A LOT OF CLINICAL WORK THAT
THEY DO SO THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY
DOING A CLINICAL EXAM EVERY TIME
THEY WORK ON A- LIVE QUESTION
CORRECT. YEAH WHICH I COMPLETELY
SUPPORT YOUR MOVE BECAUSE IT
SEEMS SORT OF REDUNDANT AT THE
END OF A PROGRAM LIKE THAT. TO
THEN HAVE TO GO TAKE A CLINICAL
EXAM WHEN YOUR CLINICAL EXAM AND
YOUR EXAM RESULTS ARE REALLY THE
PATIENTS THAT YOU'VE BEEN
WORKING ON. DURING THE YEAR AND
A HALF WHEN YOU WERE FINISHED
BEEN A CLINICAL PHASE OF YOUR
EDUCATIONAL. PROGRAM RIGHT
CORRECT YES OKAY THE ONES THAT
WERE TRYING TO CONVINCE ARE THE
ONES THAT DEMAND A RITE OF
PASSAGE TO THE PROFESSION
UNDERSTAND WE'VE DEALT WITH THAT
BEFORE. THE ORIGINAL OWNER OKAY
MY QUESTION PERTAINS TO AFTER
GRADUATION AFTER LICENSING- IN
THEY DONATE THEIR TIME TO GO TO
A SCHOOL IN THE INNER CITY DO
THEY NEED TO BE SUPERVISED
THERE- OR THEY CAN JUST- GO AND
DONATE THEIR TIME I
PATHETICALLY. IT ALL DEPENDS ON
THE SERVICE THAT THEY GIVE UP
THE WEATHER IF THEY'RE GONNA DO-
HANDS ON DENTAL HYGIENE SERVICES
LIKE A SCALING ROOT PLANING OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT YES THEY
NEED TO BE SUPERVISED. BUT IF
THEY'RE PROVIDING PREVENTATIVE
CARE- EDUCATION AND THINGS LIKE
THAT. TEACH THEM HOW TO TEACH-
BRUSH YOUR TEETH LOOK
APPROPRIATELY- CHECKING CHECKING
THEIR GUMS MAKE SURE. I'M MORE
OF EDUCATIONAL ASPECTS THEN THEY
CAN GO INTO SCHOOLS WITHOUT ANY.
SUPERVISION SO PRIMARILY THEY'RE
ALWAYS SUPERVISED. MAJORITY OF
THE TIME RIGHT THE MAJORITY OF
THE TIME THEY'RE ALWAYS
SUPERVISED FOR THE RT OF FOR THE
REGISTERED DENTAL HYGIENIST YES
OKAY IT'S THE REST IN A
HYGIENIST IN ALTERNATIVE
PRACTICE THAT CAN WORK
AUTONOMOUSLY. OKAY VERY GOOD
THANK YOU YOU'RE WELCOME. THE
QUESTION. OKAY WELL IT'S MOVED
TO. TESTIMONY FROM MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE DENTAL
HYGIENE BOARD OF CALIFORNIA. ANY
WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM. TWENTY
ONE HUNDRED. RUSHING TO THE
FRONT. THE STATE YOUR NAME
AFFILIATION AND- BRIEF COMMENTS
. JERRY MEMBERS JENNIFER
TANNAHILL THEIR ORIGINAL SAYS
THE IT'S ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DENTAL HYGIENISTS
ASSOCIATION THE CALIFORNIA DEL
HAD JUST ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS
EXTENDING THE SUNSET ON THE
DENTAL HYGIENE BOARD OF
CALIFORNIA. I'D LIKE TO
HIGHLIGHT JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS
IN THE BACKGROUND REPORT FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION- ISSUE ONE
RELATED TO THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER
EXEMPTS LEVELS AND SALARY- THE
MODEST PROPOSAL TO UPGRADE THE
EXECUTIVE OFFICER EXEMPTS LEVEL
IS IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISHING A
MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE. THAT
ALLOWS APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT OF
ALL OF THE BOARD PROGRAMS AND
STAFF DCA SHOULD ACT ON THE
REQUESTED EO EXEMPTION STATUS TO
EVALUATE THE TO ELEVATE I'M
SORRY THE LEVEL AND THE SALARY
COMMENSURATE WITH THE
RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE EO. SO
CITY HA SUPPORTS THAT PROPOSAL.
AND ISSUE FIVE I HAD REALLY
LENGTHY COMMENTS ON THIS BY
PULLING FROM DOWN SO THIS IS A
RELATES TO THE REGISTERED DENTAL
HYGIENIST IN ALTERNATIVE
PRACTICE THE AP'S AS WE'VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT AND DENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONAL SHORTAGE AREAS DIP
SAYS- SO THE LEGISLATURE CREATED
THE REGISTERED DENTAL HYGIENIST
IN ALTERNATIVE PRACTICE TO
SERVE. IT THE SHORTAGE AREAS OF
THE STATE WE'RE DENTAL HYGIENE
SERVICES ARE SCARCE AND THERE'S
A LACK OF DENNIS AVAILABLE TO
TREAT PATIENTS. AP'S PROVIDES
THE DENTAL HYGIENE CARE AND
CONNECT PATIENTS WITH DENNIS IN
THESE AREAS SO THEY SERVE A
VITAL ROLE TO CONNECTING PEOPLE
TO THE DENTAL TEAM. HOWEVER IF
HE'S ARE WARY OF OPENING A
DENTAL HYGIENE PRACTICE IN THESE
AREAS GIVEN THAT THE RISKS.
GIVEN THE REST THAT THEY COULD
LOSE THE BUSINESS IF THE
SHORTAGE AREA DESIGNATION IS
LIFTED. I DID THE DESIGNATION
CAN BE REMOVED IF PROVIDERS IN
THE AREA DID NOT PETITION TO
KEEP THE DESIGNATION THE
DESIGNATION CAN ALSO BE REMOVED
IF MORE PROVIDERS ARE SUCCESSFUL
IN TREATING PATIENTS IN THE
DEPTHS UP. THE A FEW DENTAL. IN
FACT THAT'S THE GOAL IS TO HAVE
THE DESIGNATION LIFTED. THE FEW
DENTAL PROFESSIONALS IN THESE
AREAS HAVE HAD TO PETITION
REPEATEDLY TO KEEP THE
DESIGNATION IN PLACE IN ORDER TO
SERVE THESE PATIENTS. SO
RECENTLY CD HA SURVEYED THE A.
P. HYGIENIST ABOUT A VARIETY OF
TOPICS AND SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE
GENERAL COMMENTS AREA ELEVEN OF
THE FORTY TWO COMMENTS. WERE
DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE CURRENT
LIMITS ON A P. SHORTAGE AREAS
PRACTICES. BEING A BARRIER TO-
TO LIMITS ON THIS PRACTICE IS
BEING A BARRIER TO REACHING THE
UNDERSERVED. AND THAT WAS ABOUT
25% OF THE COMMENTS AND THE
SURVEY ASKED. DID YOU HAVE A
PRACTICE DO YOU HAVE A PRACTICE
IN THE DIPSET. 85% SAID NO. AND
IF THERE WAS NOT A LIMIT WOULD
YOU OPEN ONE AND 70% SAID YES.
SO IF HE'S WOULD BE INCENTIVIZED
TO INVEST IN THE SHORTAGE AREAS
OF THE RISK OF LOSING THEIR
PRACTICE WAS REMOVED. NO OTHER
HEALTH CARE REVISED PROVIDERS
FACE SUCH A LIMIT ON THEIR
ABILITY TO PRACTICE THE
PROFESSION. THE CITY HA REQUEST
THE COMMITTEE CAN TO CONSIDER
AMENDING THE BMP CODE TO ALLOW-
A PIECE WHO ARE ALREADY
OPERATING IN THESE AREAS JUST TO
BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT
PRACTICE. IF THE DESIGNATION IS
REMOVED. AND THEN- ONE LAST ITEM
. ET HA SUPPORTS THAT DENTAL
HYGIENE. BOARD LANGUAGE THAT
WOULD CHANGE REGISTERED DENTAL
HYGIENISTS SUPERVISION FOR
EXTENDED FUNCTIONS JUST THE TO
THE LOCAL ANESTHESIA WHICH IS
THE SHOT THAT JUST AND I'M HERE
YOU'RE GONE. AND THEN THE SOFT
TISSUE CURETTAGE WHICH IS
WORKING IN THAT SOFT TISSUE
AROUND THE TOOTH AND THE GUM-
FROM DIRECT SUPERVISION TO.
EITHER GENERAL OR DIRECT
SUPERVISION AT THE DISCRETION OF
THE DENTIST AND THIS ALLOWS RT
H. IS COMPETENT IN THESE
FUNCTIONS. TO PROVIDE THE CARE
UNDER THE STANDING ORDERS WITH
FROM A DENTIST OR WITH MORE
OVERSIGHT DEPENDING ON HOW THE
SPECIFIC DENTAL OFFICE JUST
OPERATE. THIS CHANGE IN
SUPERVISION DOES NOT IMPACT
LIABILITY HAS DENTAL HYGIENISTS
ALREADY CARRY THEIR OWN
LIABILITY INSURANCE AREN'T AND
ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE D. H. B.
C. TO REGULATE THEIR CONDUCT. SO
THIS CHANGE WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE
FLEXIBILITY FOR THE DENTAL TEAM
TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE
PATIENTS MORE EFFICIENTLY.
THANKS FOR CONSIDERING OUR
PACIFIC YOU MA'AM NEXT PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ABOUT NINETY
SECONDS. MY NAME IS SHERRY MAY
OCCUR REGISTERED DENTAL
ASSISTANT CERTIFIED DENTAL
ASSISTANT FELLOW OF THE AMERICAN
DENTAL ASSISTANTS ASSOCIATION
AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF. OF
THE CALIFORNIA DENTAL ASSISTANTS
ASSOCIATION THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF DOWNSTATE
TEACHERS. AND THE REGISTERED
DENTAL ASSISTANTS IN EXTENDED
FUNCTIONS ASSOCIATION. HAVING
BEEN IN THE DENTAL PROFESSION
FOR NEARLY FORTY YEARS I
UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF TEAM
AND THE INFLUENCE IT POTENTIALLY
CARRIES. ARE ORGANIZATIONS
SUPPORT THE EXTENSION OF THE
DENTAL HYGIENE BORDER CALIFORNIA
TO CONTINUE THEIR WORK ON
ENHANCING THE PROFESSION WITH
OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY. AS
PART OF THAT TEAM WE ALSO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF THE
DENTAL BOARD AS WELL AS WE ARE
ALL WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME
MEANS OF CONSUMER PROTECTION
ENHANCEMENT. EDUCATION GROWTH
AND SAFETY WITHIN THE PROFESSION
THANK YOU THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE
. GOOD AFTERNOON JUST AROUND THE
CALIFORNIA DENTAL ASSOCIATION A
CDA SUPPORT THE CONTINUATION OF
THE DENTAL HYGIENE BOARD OF
CALIFORNIA AND ITS ROLE IN
MAKING TO PROTECTING THE PUBLIC
HOWEVER WE DO HAVE ISSUE WE DO
HAVE STRONG INTERNAL ISSUES
NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE IN THE
READING MATERIALS. ON ISSUE
NUMBER FOUR OF LOCAL ANESTHESIA
OF THE- ALTER RESPONSIBILITY OF
DENTISTS HYGIENISTS AND OTHER
HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS SHOULD
BE PATIENT SAFETY WHILE IT IS
TRUE THAT LOCAL ANESTHESIA CAN
BE ADMINISTERED SAFELY IN MOST
SITUATIONS. SHOULD PROBLEMS
ARISE- CONSEQUENCES CAN BE LIFE
THREATENING MASON CITY HAS
AUTHORIZED THE MOST TRAINED
PERSON IN THE OFFICE IS
AVAILABLE- TO RESPOND TO
EMERGENCIES. THE PERCEIVED
BENEFITS THIS EXPANSION IS- THAT
IS THE THIRD TO BE EFFICIENCY IF
A PATIENT IS TURNED AWAY IF THE
DENTIST IS NOT THERE HOWEVER
THERE HAS BEEN NO. PROOF THAT
THERE IS NO DATA PRODUCED TO
SHOW HOW MANY PATIENTS HAVE BEEN
TURNED AWAY YOU TOO THAT DESPITE
BEING ON SITE AND THE- HEAD
DRESS HAS BEEN ABLE TO- GIVE
THAT LOCAL ANESTHESIA. A IN THE
ANTICIPATE YET HOW IS AS OF
LOCUSTS AND AN INTO CALL.
NECESSARY AND SKILL IN SHOULD BE
AVAILABLE TO A CERTIFICATION.
OUR ISSUE NUMBER FIVE DUTY IS
PRACTICING IN DEPTH AS- THE
PURPOSE OF RT EGP LICENSURE LAWS
PROVIDE CARE FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO
ARE UNABLE. TO GO TO THE DENTAL
OFFICE OR WHO LIVE IN THESE AYE
THAT'LL DESERT ARE KNOWN AS THAT
THAT IS. A FOR. SO IF A JOB THAT
HAS NATION WAS TO BE YOUR- HOW
RT. IT WOULD TO AND- SERVE ANY
OF THESE TWO INTENTIONS AND ALSO
LIKE TO ADD THAT. THERE HAS NOT
BEEN A CASE OF DIPSET BEING
LISTED. IN IN THE HISTORY. ALL
RIGHT SO ARE YOU PLEASE OUR PER
AND BREAKING MORTAR IN DEPP'S-
UNINSURED IN. PATIENTS ARE SO
MEDIAN. POP THE PROVIDER WAS TO
TREAT THAT THEY'RE THE ONES WITH
WAS RISKY CARE AT THE SITE.
HOWEVER ONLY A HUNDRED AND
TWENTY FOUR OF ABOUT SEVEN
HUNDRED RDG PEAS ARE ONLY
EIGHTEEN PERCENT. ARE ENROLLED
AS MEDICAL PROVIDERS CURRENTLY.
SO IN OTHER WORDS AT LEAST TALK
TO POLICE THIRD OF THE
POPULATION IN. NEAR INCLUDING
NEARLY HALF THE CHILDREN. LIVING
DEVICES ARE AN ELDER. AN
ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE CARE AT
THESE SITES. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT
ACCEPT MEDICAL PATIENTS. FOR
THIS REASON SEATING IS CONCERNED
POPULATIONS WITH ABOUT
POPULATIONS WHO WOULD ACTUALLY
RECEIVE CARE IN HIS BROKEN
ORDERS IF IT DIPS A DESTINATION
IT WAS TO EVER GO AWAY. RECENTLY
SUGGESTED TO- BE LIKELY LIMITED
TO PATIENTS WHO HAVE COMMERCIAL
INSURANCE IN ALREADY ABLE TO BE
SEEN BY DENTISTS ARE CONTRACTED.
BY THESE PLANS. WE ALSO WOULD
LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO
WORK WITH PEAK H. CHI ON THE
RECERTIFICATION. PROCESS IF IT
SAYS THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK
YOU ANYONE IS IN ROOM ONE ON IT
WAS TO MAKE. ABOUT THE DENTAL.
BOARD SEEING THEIR LET'S MOVE ON
TO. WITNESSES WAITING TO MAKE
PUBLIC COMMENT VIA
TELECONFERENCE MODERATOR FEW
PLEASE OPEN THE LINES. THANK YOU
MR IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS
ISSUE PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO
AT THE START.
HERE WE HAVE KNOWN QUEUE AT THIS
TIME. THAT IS FINE. SO WHAT
WE'RE GOING IS HAVING. BEEN HERE
ALMOST TWO HOURS AND A HALF.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE
RECESS BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THE
MEDICAL BOARD WHICH WILL
PROBABLY BE A OF A LONGER.
PORTION OF THE HEARING SO FIVE
MINUTE RECESS. HI GET SOME WATER
. YOU HAVE TO GO. NO YOU KNOW
RECONVENING IT IS- THREE FIFTY
THREE PM AND WE'RE MOVING ON TO
OUR FINAL PROGRAM ON THE AGENDA
TODAY THE MEDICAL BOARD OF
CALIFORNIA IN THAT REGARD I'D
LIKE TO INVITE CRISTINA LAWSON
THE BOARD PRESIDENT DR RANDY
HAWKINS BOARD VICE PRESIDENT G.
VERSION VERGHESE IF I PRONOUNCE
THAT CORRECTLY IF NOT YOU CAN
STRANGLE ME INTERIM EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR MARINO CONNOR CHIEF OF
LICENSING AND KARRIE WEBB STAFF
COUNCIL WE MAY NEED ANOTHER
TABLE. BUT IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU
ALL IN PERSON I DON'T THINK I'VE
EVER HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF DOING
THAT SINCE THEY TOOK OVER THE
CHAIRMANSHIP ON THE SENATE SIDE
SO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US
TODAY. THIS LESSON WHEN YOU'RE
READY AND DON'T RUSH YOU MAY
PROCEED. SOUNDS ON I AM. OKAY
ARE NOW SON- WILL THANK YOU AT
YEARS ROTH AND BERMAN AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS IT CERTAINLY
IS NICE TO BE HERE WITH YOU IN
PERSON AND NOT DOING THIS SINCE
THAT HEARING OVER ZOOM WE
APPRECIATE THE INVITATION AND
THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE
BOARD'S RECENT ACTIVITIES HI MY
NAME IS CHRISTINA LAWSON I'VE
BEEN THE BOARD'S PRESIDENT SINCE
TWENTY TWENTY AND I'VE SERVED ON
THE MEDICAL BOARD. SINCE TWENTY
FIFTEEN YOU'LL ALSO BE HEARING
FROM THE BOARD'S ADVICE
PRESIDENT SHORTLY. AS DISCUSSED
IN OUR BACKGROUND IN THE
BACKGROUND PAPER AT THE BOARD
DATES BACK TO EIGHTEEN SEVENTY
SIX AND REGULATES ALLOPATHIC
MEDICAL DOCTORS. LICENSED
MIDWIVES POLY SOME DOG REFERS
AND RESEARCH PSYCHO ANALYSTS THE
WORK WE DO EACH DAY HELPS TO
ENSURE THAT CONSUMERS RECEIVE
HIGH QUALITY AND APPROPRIATE
MEDICAL CARE. SINCE WE LAST MET
DURING OUR TWENTY TWENTY ONE
SUNSET REVIEW WE'VE IMPLEMENTED
SB EIGHT OH SIX QUESTIONS OR
CHANGES WHICH WERE PASSED THAT
YEAR WE'VE UPDATED OUR
CONTROLLED. WE'RE UPDATING SKEWS
ME ARE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
SUBSTANCES GUIDELINES WE'VE
REDUCED PAPER IN OUR PROCESS
THESE TO SAVE TIME AND MONEY
WE'VE ADOPTED A NEW FIVE YEAR
STRATEGIC PLAN. ALSO AND
UNFORTUNATELY SINCE OUR LAST
SUNSET REVIEW THE BOARD'S
FINANCIAL SITUATION HAS
CONTINUED TO WORSEN. AS WE
INDICATED IN OUR SUNSET REPORT
ADDRESSING THE BOARD'S FINANCIAL
SITUATION IS THE MOST CRITICAL
MATTER TO ADDRESS THIS YEAR. THE
EIGHTY DOLLAR INCREASE IN FEES
PROVIDED IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE
WAS NOT SUFFICIENT. NOW WE ARE
TAKING ON DEBTS IN ORDER TO
MAINTAIN OUR OPERATIONS WITH
MORE LOANS ANTICIPATED IN THE
FUTURE TO COVER OUR CASH FLOW
NEEDS. IN ADDITION TO INCREASING
OUR FEES STATUTE. EXCUSE ME
STATUTE PREVENTS THE BOARD FROM
HAVING A SUFFICIENT RESERVE
UNLIKE OTHER BOARDS AND
DEPARTMENTS. WE ARE LIMITED TO A
RESERVE OF FOUR MONTHS OF
EXPENDITURES WHILE MANY OTHER
BOARDS HAVE A TWENTY FOUR MONTH
MAXIMUM RESERVE. INCREASING OUR
RESERVE AMOUNT WILL HELP TO
LIMIT THE NEED FOR LARGE FUTURE
FEE INCREASES. AND FINALLY WE
WISH TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
MAKE FUTURE NECESSARY FEE
INCREASES REGULATIONS THIS WILL
HELP US TO HANDLE SOME
ADDITIONAL INCREASES ON OUR OWN
WHICH AT THE THIS IS STORY HAS
PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED TO
OTHER LICENSING BOARDS LIKE THE
BOARD OF ACCOUNTANCY. THE
PROPOSALS IN OUR REPORT
REPRESENT A ROAD MAP WE HOPE THE
LEGISLATURE WILL APPROVE THIS
YEAR THAT WILL PROVIDE THE BOARD
BOTH WITH THE FINANCIAL
RESOURCES AND THE LEGAL TOOLS
NECESSARY TO PURSUE OUR MESH
MISSION. AND ADDRESS MANY OF THE
CONCERNS THAT WE HEAR FROM
LEGISLATORS AND FROM THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS OUR PROACTIVE EFFORTS TO
ADDRESS CRITICISMS CONCERNS AND
CHALLENGES FACED BY THE BOARD.
AND TO IMPROVE OUR ABILITY TO
PROTECT CONSUMERS WE LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH
THE LEGISLATURE TO ENACT AS MANY
OF THE PROPOSALS AS POSSIBLE
INTO LAW. AND NOW I'LL TURN THE-
FLOOR OVER TO MY OUR VICE
PRESIDENT DR RANDY HAWKINS. GOOD
AFTERNOON YES SIR UNDER THREE D.
HAWKINS. VICE PRESIDENT MEDICAL
BOARD OF CALIFORNIA SINCE TWENTY
FIFTEEN. ALSO SIR IN THE
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT BOARD. AND
THE CONSUMER REPRESENTATIVE ON A
FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
VISOR COMMITTEE. I'M A
PRACTICING PHYSICIAN. AND
INTERNIST IN PRIVATE PRACTICE.
FOR CALIFORNIA CITIZENS IN
ENGLISH FOR THE PAST THIRTY FIVE
YEARS. A PATIENT POPULATION
DIVERSE. RANGE OF DEMOGRAPHICS.
APPEAR TO PAY THE- MEDICAL
BOARDS REQUESTED LICENSE FEE
INCREASE. TO BE GIVEN THE HONOR
TO CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF.
CALIFORNIA CITIZENS. THE MOTHER
PHYSICIANS ALSO STATED THEY WERE
WILLING TO MAKE THIS- THIS
INCREASE. WELL IT'S A LOT ABOUT
ME BUT TO ME IT'S NOT ABOUT ME.
IT'S ABOUT THE PUBLIC BOTH SERVE
. AND THE MEDICAL BOARD'S
MISSION. IT'S ABOUT THE
LEGISLATURE HELPING US DO A
BETTER JOB. ACCOMPLISHMENT THE
BOARDS MISTER PUBLIC PROTECTION
. LICENSING OF POSITIONS. AND
DISCIPLINE POSITION WHERE
APPROPRIATE. THERE ARE MISSING
SOME CIRCLES THAT THE MEDICAL
BOARD PROTECTS DOCTORS AND NOT
THE PUBLIC. L. A. RIVER IS ONLY
RESPONSIVE TO ORGANIZE
MEDICINES. IS APPARENTLY FALSE I
DISAGREE. ADEQUATE THE BOARD
THROUGH SEX AND DEDICATED STAFF
IS FOCUS. WE ARE AWARE TO SOME
DEGREE. OF OUR I'M SORRY YOUR
WHERE TO SOMEBODY OF OUR
DIFFICULT FINANCIAL STATUS I
WANT TO SHARE A FEW ONGOING
BOARD ACTIVITIES. NOT INVOLVING
MORE MONEY. FIRST ENGAGING WITH
. THE PUBLIC. INCLUDING A YOU
TUBE VIDEOS ON TOPICS SUCH AS
HOW TO FILE A COMPLAINT. A
QUARTERLY MEETINGS AND
STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS OF THE
LETTER FOR EXAMPLE MISSION- BUT
DOCTOR BY MRS- LAWSON FOR
EXAMPLE INCLUDES- CURRENTLY
UPDATING THE MEDICAL BOARD
CONTROL PRACTICE GUIDELINES IF
THE PARTIES. REMAIN ESSENTIAL TO
THIS PROCESS. THERE IS A NEED
HOWEVER. TO EXPLORE NEW CREATIVE
WAYS TO ENGAGE IN CONSTRUCTIVE
MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL DIALOGUE
WITH OUR CONSUMER ADVOCATES THIS
IS A EXPLORED IN IN OUR
STRATEGIC PLAN WE'VE TAKING
ACTION IS REGARD. SECOND I WANT
TO INDICATE THAT- I HAVE DIRECT
ENGAGE WITH MEDICAL STUDENTS
AND- DEAN'S- PHYSICIANS IN
TRAINING ALONG WITH THE PROGRAM
DIRECTORS. I AM ENGAGING
EDUCATING THEM ABOUT THE BOARD
AND THEIR OWN ROLE IN PUBLIC
PROTECTION AND EDUCATION MEDICAL
STUDENTS RESIDENTS AND FELLOWS.
THIS IS LOW HANGING FRUIT HAS
EXPANSION URBANIZATION WILL BEAR
FRUIT. THIRDLY THE IMPOSITION
OF- FEE RECOVERY FROM DISTANT
PHYSICIAN IS YIELDING SOME.
FINANCIAL RETURN. IN ADDITION TO
ADDRESSING THE BOARD'S FINANCIAL
CHALLENGES AND IMPROVING
COMMUNICATION FOR PUBLIC. AND
COMPLIANCE AND COMPLIANCE. IS
ALSO A KEY PRIORITY I WANT TO
MENTION A FEW FIRST THE. I AM
PLEASE ON UNIT IS A BOARD
SUGGESTED APPROACH IMPROVING
COMMUNICATION AND UNDERSTAND THE
BOARD THE ROLE OF THE MISSION
THE BOARD. THE STAFF INITIATIVE
TO DO THE FOLLOWING FIRST.
ASSIST CONSUMER SEEKING.
INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO FILE A
COMPLAINT. EFFECTIVELY
INCOMPLETE SECOND OFFER SUPPORT
TO COMPLAINANTS AFTER THE CASE
HAS BEEN REFERRED TO THE FEEL
FOR INVESTIGATION THIRD INCREASE
CONSUMER OUT REACH. REGARDING
THE BOARD'S ROLE IN PROCEDURE
FOURTH. EVALUATE COMPLAIN IS A
CLOSURE REVIEW REQUESTS AND
FIFTY WOULD BE THE LEGISLATURE
TO APPROVE NECESSARY FINANCES
RESOURCES AND POSITION POSITIONS
TO HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF. THE
BOARD IS NOT SUBMITTED A BUDGET.
CHANGE PROPOSAL HAS OUR
FINANCIAL. A POSITION WON'T
SUPPORT PADDING NEW STAFF AT
THIS TIME THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF
AN INVESTMENT THAT UNDERSCORES
THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL.
FINANCIAL RESOURCES SECONDLY AN
ONLINE TRACKING SYSTEM TO
FURTHER HELP IN THIS AREA THE
BORDERS OF HELPING IN HOUSE
ONLINE SYSTEMS THAT WOULD ALLOW
COMPLAINTS TO TRACK THE PROCESS
OF THE- THE PROGRESS OF THE
COMPLAINT THEY SUBMITTED. THEY
BE ABLE TO SO AT THEIR OWN
CONVENIENCE WITHOUT HAVING TO
MAKE A CALL THAT WE- A RESPONSE
FROM THE BOARD. BELIEVES ON
UNION COME A SOME OF THE ONLINE
TRACKING SYSTEM ARE EXPECTED TO
SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE BOARD
CAPACITY KEEP COMPLAINTS
INFORMED. AND INCREASE PUBLIC
UNDERSTANDING OF THE ROLE OF THE
BOARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION. I MISS LAWSON-
BORDERS CASE STEFAN WELCOME THE
OPPORTUNITY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
. WELL LET ME START FIRST LET ME
SAY I'VE BEEN VERY VERY
IMPRESSED WITH THE CHANGES THAT
YOU HAVE PROPOSED AND- STARTED
IMPLEMENTING THOSE YOU HAVE
PROPOSED IN PLAN TO IMPLEMENT.
SINCE I STARTED IN THIS JOB. I
GUESS TWO YEARS AGO. SEEMS LIKE
A LONG TIME. FROM THE WITH THE
MEDICAL BOARD. BUT I WOULD LIKE
TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT AT THE
BEGINNING MORE THAN WE'VE DONE
IN THE PAST. ON THE- FINANCIAL
SITUATION. AND THE FINANCIAL
CLIFF THAT WE SEEM TO BE DEALING
WITH EVERY YEAR. WITH THE
MEDICAL BOARD AND DELVE INTO OF.
IF YOU'RE WILLING TO HELP ME I'M
NOT SURE I CAN ASK ARTICULATE
QUESTIONS I WILL TRY. ON THIS
ISSUE BUT HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE
EXPENSES THAT YOU FACE I WAS
STRUCK BY THE BACKGROUNDERS
STATEMENT THAT THE MEDICAL
BOARD'S. ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM
ACCOUNTS 475% OF OVERALL
EXPENDITURES. WHICH SORT OF.
DRIVES THE POINT I'VE CONTINUED
TO MAKE WHICH IS IN THIS
PARTICULAR CASE. THE EITHER
UNFORTUNATE OR BAD ACTS OF A FEW
PHYSICIANS ARE DRIVING THE COST
UP FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF
PHYSICIANS THOSE WHO NEVER SEE
THE INSIDE OF YOUR ENFORCEMENT
UNIT OR EVEN THE OUTSIDE. ARE
PAYING FOR THOSE THAT ARE
FREQUENT FLYERS APPARENTLY. IN
THE ENFORCEMENT UNIT AND THERE
MAY BE OTHER DRIVERS. OF THOSE
EXPENSES BEYOND ENFORCEMENT BUT
PERHAPS YOU COULD TALK ABOUT
THAT. WITH ME- I ASSUME IT'S
JUST IT'S THE FOR SOME IT'S THE
STANDARD STORY OF BOARDS WERE WE
REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO BE
LICENSED AND THEN WE TELL THOSE
WHO WERE LICENSE THAT THEY'RE
GOING TO PAY. FOR THE COMPLETE
OPERATION OF THE OF THE BOARD
INVOLVED SO THAT WOULD BE THE MO
YOU EXPENSES IN. AND OTHER
ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES THAT ALL
BOARDS FACE BUT THERE SEEMS TO
BE AN EVER INCREASING AMOUNT OF
MONEY ALLOCATED TO PAYING FOR
THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES. I
THINK I'M GONNA START I'M GONNA
STOP TALKING MAYBE I'LL LET YOU
WILL TALK TO THE FINANCIAL
SITUATION. AND IN PARTICULAR THE
EXPENSE SIDE OF THE FINANCIAL
SITUATION WHICH IS WHAT'S
DRIVING THIS CONTINUING NEED
FOR. ADDITIONAL FEE INCREASES
ABSOLUTELY AND I'M GONNA ASK OUR
INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO
GET INTO THE DETAILS WITH YOU
BUT- YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
LITIGATION- ENTERED FORCING
EXPENSES ARE THE KEY COST
DRIVERS AND I'LL- MR VERGHESE
GET INTO THE DETAILS. CENTER
FIRST OF ALL LET ME TELL YOU
THAT YOU'RE A PRONOUNCE MY NAME
ACCURATELY 100% CORRECTLY SO I
APPRECIATE THAT- SO- YES. LAKE
MISS LAWSON ALLUDED TO IT'S NOT
ALL ENFORCEMENT RIGHT I MEAN
THERE ARE LITIGATION AGAINST THE
BOARD THAT'S COSTING US TOO AND
FOR IN. IN DEFENDING THOSE
LITIGATIONS THERE ARE THEY ARE
COSTLY THEY THEY RUN MULTIPLE
YEARS INTO THE INTO THE SYSTEM
AND- THAT'S THAT'S ONE BIG AREA
MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT
THE BOARD WILL HAVE TO. DEFEND
OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF-
SOMETIMES ALONG WITH THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO DEFEND
THESE CASES AND WE HAVE TO PAY A
CALL AND A SHARE OF THAT. SO
THAT'S A BIG SHARE OF THE AND
ALL WE NEED TO MOVE THAT APART
THE NEW LOOKING TO THE QUALITY
OF CONTROL CASES THESE ARE NOT
EASY CASES TO DEFEND AND
ESPECIALLY DOING COVERT TIME- WE
HAD TO FIGHT THROUGH THE- TRY
TRY TO GET THE MATTER. RECORDS
YOU KNOW GETTING THE RELEASES WE
HAVE TO KNOW THE PATIENTS DON-
READILY- PROVIDE WITH THE
CONSENT SO WE CAN GO GET THAT
RECORD SO WE HAD TO GO TO THE
SUBPOENA ENFORCEMENT. SIDE THAT
IS EXPENSIVE AND TIME CONSUMING.
DURING COVERT TIME THE COURT
SYSTEMS WERE CLOSED SO WE HAD TO
WAIT SO THAT ADDED TO THE TIME
FRAME AND ADDS TO THE COST. AND
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE
RECENTLY WE HAVE SEEN- THERE IS
AN EFFORT FROM SOME OF THE
PHYSICIAN COMMUNITY TO- EVEN
DISCOURAGE THE PATIENCE TO PULL
BACK THEIR CONSENT THEY WERE
ORIGINALLY GIVEN SO WE ARE ONE
OF THE ASK IS TO GIVE US SOME
TOOLS TO DEFEND THESE- PRACTICES
OUT THERE SO ALL THESE ADDED IN.
IT COST TIME AND EFFORT AND BUT
AND BUDGET NOW WILL BE HAPPY TO
PROVIDE YOU WITH A BREAKDOWN OF
THOSE- EXPENSES AND COSTS LATER
DOWN THE ROAD AND HOW THIS
NUMBERS WITH ME BUT THESE ARE
SOME HIGHLIGHTS THAT I CAN. GIVE
YOU SOME FEEDBACK NOW. LET ME
ASK YOU A QUESTION FOR EXAMPLE
YOU MENTIONED PATIENT CONSENT ON
MEDICAL RECORDS. OBVIOUSLY THESE
ARE PATIENTS WHO WERE NOT
COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR
POSITION. THAT IS A BIG PART
THEY WILL NOT GIVE US CONSENT
THESE ARE OTHER. THESE ARE
PATIENTS THAT ARE IN IMPLICATED
IN THE SYSTEM FOR SOME OTHER
REASON. RIGHT DRUG.
PRESCRIPTIONS OR WHATEVER. IS
THERE A WAY. TO DEAL WITH THE
CONSENT ISSUE IN ADVANCE EITHER.
THROUGH STATUTE OR SOME OTHER
WAY OR- IS IT- REALLY LARGELY
HIP- IN THE FEDERAL LAW THAT WE
CAN INPUT IN IMPACT HERE ON THE
STATE LEVEL. THAT IS A VERY GOOD
APPROACH AND IF WEEK WE HAVE
THAT AUTHORITY AND- MEN ARE NEED
IN ALL CASES BUT IN CERTAIN
CASES. IF WE CAN GET THAT
AUTHORITY UP FRONT. OR WE HAVE
THAT AUTHORITY TO GO AND GET THE
RECORDS LIKE EVEN SOME OF THE
OTHER BOARDS DO HAVE THAT- THE
CABLE TO GO AND- GET THE RECORDS
ON DEMAND AND THEY DON'T NEED TO
GET A PATIENT COMES IN BECAUSE
THIS IS THE REGULATORY MATTER.
WE HAVE AN A JOB TO DO TO
PROTECT THE PUBLIC. AND WE DO
NEED THE MEDICAL RECORDS. I MEAN
IT COULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE
POSITION TO PROVE THE CASE THAT
IT DIDN'T WHILE IT IS STANDARD
OF CARE IT CAN GO. BOTH WAYS BUT
UNLESS WE GET HAN. HANDLE ON
MEDICAL RECORD WE CANNOT DO
ANYTHING SO WE WOULD BE.
AMENDING THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF
MEDICAL RECORDS ACT AND KILLED
THE CALIFORNIA VERSION TO.
AUTHORIZE THE BOARD TO GO TO. BE
A FOR DIRECT TO THE PHYSICIAN'S
OFFICE IN THE EVENT OF A
COMPLAINT. THE WERE THOSE
RECORDS WERE NECESSARY FOR
INVESTIGATION AND DO THAT
WITHOUT THE. NEED FOR EITHER
CONSENT OR SUBPOENA. CENTER ROTH
AG KERRY WEB HERE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR HEARING US TODAY. THE
MEDICAL BOARD IS A HEALTH CARE
OVERSIGHT AGENCY SO WERE WERE.
THAT TO HAPPEN IT DOES NOT COME
INTO PLAY WITH OUR ABILITY TO.
GET IN REVIEW RECORDS SO THAT WE
CAN EVALUATE THE PHYSICIAN'S
CARE OF PATIENTS. THE MOST
BOARDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY DO NOT
REQUIRE. IN THE OR PHYSICIAN OR
PATIENT- CONSENT TO GET RECORDS
BECAUSE THE JOB OF REVIEWING
PAID. THERE PROVIDED TO
PATIENTS. IS SO IMPORTANT AND
GETTING THOSE RECORDS. IS A BIG
PART OF THE DELAY WELL I
UNDERSTAND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE
WHAT WE NEED SO ALL WE NEED TO
DO IS GIVE THE BOARD THE
AUTHORITY. TO GO IN. AND OBTAIN
THE RECORDS THAT. WE'VE ACTUALLY
MADE SOME PROPOSALS THAT WOULD
WOULD HELP IN THAT DIRECTION
THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC- AND- IT
ALSO. IF THAT CAN'T BE ACHIEVED
. ALLOWING THE STATURE
LIMITATIONS TO TOLL IF WE HAVE
TO TAKE SUBPOENA ENFORCEMENT
ACTION RIGHT THAT IS A VERY
IMPORTANT WE'LL GET TO THAT
ISSUE I'M JUST TRYING TO DEAL
WITH THE- DOCTOR. WITH THIS PART
OF THE EXPENSE EQUITATION. WHAT
ABOUT THE- THE INVESTIGATION
PROCESS DOES THAT. HAVE EXPENSE
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAT WE
COULD ALTER BY MAKING CHANGES IN
THE WAY YOU DO YOUR
INVESTIGATION OR- THE PEOPLE
THAT CONDUCT YOUR INVESTIGATIONS
. I FOR EXAMPLE NOT TO WE'VE HAD
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BRINGING
INVESTIGATION INVESTIGATION UNIT
. AS I RECALL BACK INSIDE THE
MEDICAL BOARD. I DON'T KNOW
WHETHER THAT'S GOOD OR BAD
WEATHER THAT WOULD AFFECT
EFFECTS OTHER THINGS BUT WOULD
AFFECT THE EXPENSE SIDE OF THE
EQUATION HERE SINCE WE'RE
DEALING WITH YEAH FUND CONDITION
IN. INSOLVENCY POSSIBILITIES I'M
INTERESTED ADDRESS THAT
QUESTION- THE BOARD ITSELF
HASN'T TAKEN A POSITION ON THAT
QUESTION OF YOU KNOW WHETHER OR
NOT INVESTIGATORS SHOULD BE
LOCATED WHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE
OR IN ANY OTHER LOCATION- BUT I
WOULD CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE
ENFORCEMENT MONITORS PRELIMINARY
REPORT WHICH I THINK YOU
RECEIVED. LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK
PRIOR- WHICH IDENTIFIES THE
SAYS- I WOULD ALL CHARACTERIZED-
IN MY OWN WORDS IS AN AREA OF
OPPORTUNITY FOR US SOMETHING WE
ALL NEED TO THINK ABOUT. AND
LOOK AT BUT FOR THE BUT FOR
THOSE OF YOU WHO YOU KNOW
OBVIOUSLY MANAGE THIS
ORGANIZATION DOES IT HAVE
FINANCIAL IMPACTS OTHER THAN THE
IMPACTS THAT ARE THE OBVIOUS
ONES IN COORDINATION.
INVESTIGATION EFFICIENCY. IT'S
MORE THAN FINANCIAL IT'S THE
MANAGEMENT WE DON'T HAVE IN THE-
IN A WE ARE. CONTRACTUALLY BOUND
BY THE EMILY IS SO- HOW DO WE
MANAGE A SYSTEM HOW DO WE MANAGE
THE BUDGET AND ALL THAT YOU KNOW
IT'S OUTSIDE THAT MORE YOU IT'S
TOTALLY OUTSIDE THE MORE YOU-
BOUNCE SO WE REALLY. CAN I
REALLY. SAY THAT WE CAN
FINANCIALLY MANAGE IT BETTER
UNLESS WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY
AND WHAT ABOUT THE USE OF THE-
ATTORNEYS DURING YOUR
ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. IS THERE
SOME. EXPENSE SAVINGS ASSOCIATED
WITH. USING THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE FOR NOT USING THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAVING
ATTORNEYS EMBEDDED IN THE
MEDICAL BOARD OR NOT. A LEAD
KERRY MAYBE ANSWER THAT REAL
QUICK AND- FROM A LEGAL
STANDPOINT. WELL. IF I CAN SPEAK
FRANKLY I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE
THE SUGGESTION TO YOU- NOT USE
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WOULD
LOOK LIKE- THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE. I THINK THEIR
FEET THEIR HOURLY RATE IS TWO
HUNDRED TWENTY DOLLARS- OUTSIDE
COUNSEL IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE
THAN NOT. AND IF YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT BRINGING LITIGATORS ON
BOARD AT A REDUCED RATE- I'M NOT
SURE. WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE
. THE EITHER DIFFERENT TYPES OF
ATTORNEYS THAT CAN BE USED FOR
DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS RIGHT
I PROVIDES DATA YOU DON'T NEED A
FLEA BAILEY TO. SUPERVISE THE-
INITIAL INVESTIGATION OF A
MEDICAL- NEGLIGENCE COMPLAINT
RIGHT BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO FLEE
BAILEY IF YOU'RE WALKING IN THE
TRIAL. I GUESS THAT'S MY
QUESTION IS HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY
THOUGHT TO HOW YOU. ALLOCATE
YOUR USE OF THE TOURNEY OF LEGAL
SERVICES AND WHETHER THERE IS
ANY WHETHER THERE'S SAVINGS TO
BE DERIVED FROM. MAKING
MODIFICATIONS THERE I GATHER NOT
BY JUST ASKING IT WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT THIS- AND THE BOARD HAS
YOU KNOW INQUIRED ASKED OUR OUR
STAFF DURING OUR BOARD MEETINGS
EXACTLY THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE
ASKING US HERE- IN THE PAST THE
ANSWER'S BEEN THAT YOU HAVE MUCH
ALONG THE LINES. MISS WHAT WAS
TALKING ABOUT THAT GOING
OUTSIDE- AND YOU KNOW HAVING
OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL WOULD BE
SUBSTANTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE I
WILL ALSO SHARE WITH YOU- WE ARE
EXTREMELY PLEASED WITH THE
SUPPORT WE GET FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE- I FIND-
AND THE BOARD HAS. FOUND THEIR
ATTORNEYS TO BE OF TOP QUALITY
WE THINK THEY SERVE US VERY WELL
IN OUR CASES- IF YOU DO IT AGAIN
I WAS SOMEWHAT SURPRISED- TO SEE
SOME OF THE- COMMENTS IN IN
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IN THE
BACKGROUND PAPER ABOUT. BRINGING
ATTORNEYS IN HOUSE I WE HAVE NOT
EXPLORED THAT AS A BOARD I DON'T
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD
LOOK LIKE TO STAND UP THE WHOLE
DEPARTMENT- THAT WOULD THAT
WOULD BE NECESSARY TO SUPPORT
THE NEEDS OF OUR BOARD. I MEAN
WE HAVE MULTIPLE FEDERAL
LAWSUITS AGAINST THE BOARD RIGHT
NOW IN ADDITION TO ALL OF OUR
ENFORCEMENT CASES I MEAN IT'S
JUST AN INCREDIBLY COMPLICATED
LEGAL STRUCTURE RIGHT- AND IT
AND I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE.
VERY EXPENSIVE WHILE I LISTEN I.
I THINK THE- THIRTY CHEN. FEES
NOW THAT I'VE LOOKED AT THE LESS
COUPLE YEARS ARE QUITE. CHEAP.
BUT BUT THERE'S ALSO THE COMMAND
AND CONTROL PIECE IN. THE
COORDINATION PIECE WHICH WE CAN
MY COLLEAGUES I'M SURE WE'LL GET
INTO WHETHER. UP TO A CERTAIN
LEVEL. YOU ACHIEVE SOME. CONTROL
AND COORDINATION EFFICIENCY BY
HAVING. SOME TYPE OF LAWYER
EMBEDDED IN YOUR OPERATION. AS
OPPOSED TO. AN ATTORNEY THAT HAS
COMPETING INTERESTS. AND WORKS
FOR ANOTHER AGENCY BUT YOU WILL
HAVE TO DECIDE THAT. WE WILL
GIVE YOU THE OPTION TO MAKE THAT
DECISION AND I THINK THE ISSUE
THE UNDERLYING ISSUE- OR THE
CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS THE COST
BOTH OF. THE DEPARTMENT OF
INVESTIGATION THROUGH THE AMMO
YOU END OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE THOSE ARE COSTS THAT ARE
OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL RIGHT WE
DON'T HAVE MANAGEMENT- OVER THE
INCREASES. IN SOME CASES WE
DON'T HAVE THIS ABILITY INTO
WHAT THE BILLS ARE THAT WE MIGHT
RECEIVE- AND FOR AN ORGANIZATION
LIKE OURS THAT IS ALREADY IN A-
PRECARIOUS FINANCIAL POSITION
THOSE ARE THE ASPECTS. OF THE
SYSTEM THAT CONCERN US THE
MOBILE THAT'S MY POINT I MEAN.
CONTROLLED TRANSLATES INTO
EXPENSE DEPENDING ON WHETHER YOU
HAVE ANY. OR NOT WHETHER
PROSPERITY GOT COUPLE COMMENTS
ABOUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS SAID
EARLIER. WHO WE'RE OBLIGATED TO.
INVESTIGATE CASES THAT THE
PUBLIC BRINGS TO OUR OUR
TENSION. THOSE ARE WITHIN OUR
JURISDICTION WE HAVE TO
INVESTIGATE AND ASIDE FROM THOSE
THAT. ARE RELATED TO THE
OPPOSITE TREND JILL- PURPOSING
US WE JUST HAVE TO INVESTIGATE
THOSE WE CAN'T NOT INVESTIGATE-
ADDING THE- INVESTIGATORS- THE
FIRST LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THE
BOARD SINCE. TWENTY FIFTEEN. THE
INTERESTING THE HEALTH CALLING.
THE INVESTORS HAVE HAD A BACKLOG
OF NOT HAVING ENOUGH
INVESTIGATORS. THERE CONSTANTLY.
NOT EVEN IF INVESTIGATORS AND
THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE
VERIFICATION FOR BOTH WE DO SO
THAT'S THAT'S AN ISSUE WE CAN'T
CONTROL- OUR LEADERSHIP AT THE
BOARD IS MEETING RECORD WITH A
SECURE AYE YOU THE INVESTIGATORS
ARE TRYING TO MOVE THE PROCESS
ALONG. BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES WE HAVE WITH. THE
QUESTIONS YOU ASK. OKAY I'M
GOING TO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE
ANY. SOMEWHERE IN HERE WE HAVE
THE REQUEST WHICH IS- TO GO FOR
THE INITIAL PHYSICIAN AND
SURGEON FEE FROM EIGHT HUNDRED
SIXTY THREE DOLLARS TO ONE
THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY
DOLLARS JUST SO MY COLLEAGUES
KNOW THAT. SO WHEN I TURNED OVER
MY COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS IF
YOU BECAUSE I'M LOOKING IN THIS
DIRECTION THERE IS FOLLOWED BY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH- MISTER CHAIR
I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE
WITH US YOU TO SEE YOU AGAIN
LAWSON AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SERVICE IN THE CITY OF
INGLEWOOD- MY NEIGHBORING.
COMMUNITY ARE SO. I HAVE A FEW
QUESTIONS- ADD THAT I WANTED TO
ASK- AND IT'S REALLY- THIS HEN
LOOKS AT THE COMPLAINT PROCESS
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
COMPLAINTS THAT THAT YOU RECEIVE
IN. JUST IN SOME OF OUR RESEARCH
. MY TEAM- NOTED THAT THE
CENTRAL COMPLAINT UNIT- HAD
RECEIVED- THE PUBLIC HAD
SUBMITTED OVER SIX THOUSAND FOUR
HUNDRED AND NINE COMPLAINTS FOR
A TOTAL OF NINE THOUSAND. NINE
HUNDRED. AND FORTY THREE. EIGHT
HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND
I'M SORRY EIGHT THOUSAND TWO
HUNDRED AND 5480% 83% OF THOSE
COMPLAINTS. WERE CLOSED WITH NO
INVESTIGATION AND NO INTERVIEW-
WHAT IS THE EXPLANATION FOR THE
HIGH IS SORT OF THE CEILING HIGH
NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS THAT SEEM
TO GO NOWHERE- AND- WHAT ARE THE
WAYS THAT YOU ALL ARE.
EVALUATING THESE COMPLAINTS SO
THAT 83% ARE CLOSE WITH. WITH NO
INVESTIGATION. I'M ALL SPEECH
THAT FIRST WE GET INTO SOME OF
THE SPECIFICS ABOUT THE NUMBERS
OF CASES THAT ARE THAT ARE-
DISMISSED IF YOU WILL FOR
DIFFERENT REASONS I DID WANT TO
POINT OUT THAT THAT THOSE
STATISTICS. DON'T TELL THE
ENTIRE STORY ABOUT OUR COMPLAINT
PROCESS RIGHT- IN OUR ANNUAL
REPORT PROVIDES- SOME VERY
SPECIFIC DETAIL ABOUT THE TYPES
OF COMPLAINTS WE INTAKE AND THEN
WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM AS THEIR
PROCESS IN THAT CENTRAL
COMPLAINT UNIT- AND I'LL JUST
GIVE YOU A COUPLE EXAMPLES- YOU
KNOW THOUSANDS OF CASES. ARE
CLOSED BECAUSE THE BOARD
RECEIVED NO RESPONSE FROM THE
COMPLAINT AND- THE MATTER'S
OUTSIDE OUR JURISDICTION SO FOR
EXAMPLE IT'S ABOUT A NURSING
SITUATION RATHER THAN A- A
PHYSICIAN OR SURGEON- SITUATION
OR IN SOME CASES COMPLAINTS ARE
CLOSED BECAUSE THE SAME
COMPLAINT HAS BEEN MADE BY
MULTIPLE PEOPLE RIGHT- AND SO
MAYBE THERE ARE YOU KNOW. AT A
HUNDRED COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE
SAME ISSUE AND THAT ACTUALLY IS
MORE COMMON THAN YOU WOULD THINK
IT WOULD BE- SO THOSE.
STATISTICS DON'T TELL THE ENTIRE
STORY OR PAINT THE WHOLE PICTURE
AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP
WITH YOU WITH ALL THE DETAIL
THAT IS PROVIDED IN OUR ANNUAL
REPORT- IT OVER THE PAST FIVE
YEARS WE'VE OPENED ABOUT.
FOURTEEN HUNDRED FIFTY
INVESTIGATIONS AT EACH YEAR OR
ABOUT 14% OF THE COMPLAINTS AT
RECEIVED AN 31% OF THOSE
INVESTIGATIONS OPENED HAS
RESULTED IN DISCIPLINE SO BUT I
YOU KNOW AND- THE SERVER USE I'D
BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU FOLLOW UP
WITH THE SPECIFIC DETAILS. WE DO
WE DO THAT WE JUST SAY WE DO
HAVE THE- ACTUALLY THIS IS THE
FIRST TIME THAT. I'VE SEEN THIS
EXCELLENT LAYOUT TENER
BACKGROUNDER ON PAGES FOURTEEN
FIFTEEN AND SIXTEEN WE DO HAVE
A- SPREADSHEET BETWEEN THAT THE
DESCRIBES A NUMBER OF CASES
ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS
ADMINISTRATIVE OUTCOMES- AND
THEN- AND THEN THE COMPLAINTS.
RECEIVED BY COMPLAIN TYPE IN-
AND SOURCE OF. AS I SAID I.
DOING THIS TWO YEARS AND I
HAVEN'T HADN'T SEEN THIS-
DESCRIBED IN THIS WAY NOT THAT
YOU HAVEN'T PROVIDED IN COURT I
JUST HAVEN'T SEEN IT BEFORE SO-
AND CENTER TO YOUR QUESTION ALSO
I YOU KNOW I DO RECOGNIZE THAT
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY. FOR US
TO HELP THOSE THAT INTERACT WITH
THE BOARD WHETHER BE COMPLAINTS
OR WHETHER IT BE MEMBERS OF THE
PROFESSION- OR OTHERWISE.
THERE'S A NEED FOR US TO HELP
PEOPLE BETTER UNDERSTAND OUR
COMPLAINT PROCESS HELP BETTER
UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAN FILE A
COMPLAINT AND WHAT'S RIGHT WHAT
WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO US TO
HAVE AS PART OF THAT FILING OF
THE COMPLAINT- AND THEN ALSO.
UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE OUTCOMES
ARE AND WHAT THEY- MEAN AS WELL-
SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S AN
AREA OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US NO I
APPRECIATE THAT AND PARTICULARLY
WHERE IT'S NOT YOUR JURISDICTION
. HOW DO YOU HELP THEM FIND THE
RIGHT JURISDICTION BECAUSE THESE
ARE VASTLY CASES THAT I'M SURE
THIS THE STADIUM. AND OTHER
AGENCIES AND BOARDS WILL WILL
NEED TO KNOW SO I APPRECIATE
THAT- THE OTHER- JUST IN OUR NEW
CYCLED DOWN IN IN L. A. COUNTY
THERE'S BEEN YOU KNOW QUITE A
FEW- STORIES OF CHALLENGES AND
NEGLIGENCE IN ONE. CASE- A
SURGEON WHO WAS UNDER
INVESTIGATION EVENTUALLY CHARGED
WITH CRIMINAL MANSLAUGHTER FOR
WOMAN WHO DIED ON THE OPERATING
TABLE INTO MORE PATIENTS. WHO
WERE- ALSO MAIN BY THE SURGEON
WHILE THE BOARD WAS STILL
INVESTIGATING. UP IN AFTER WHICH
FINALLY CONCLUDED. M. HEY HE-
THIS THIS POSITION WAS WAS
CHARGED BUT HOW ARE CONSUMERS
SUPPOSED TO ENSURE THEIR SAFETY
WHEN INVESTIGATIONS TAKE LONGER
I'M CURIOUS HOW LONG DO THESE
SERIOUS INVESTIGATIONS HOW LONG
DO THEY GO FOR AND- IF THEY DRAG
OUT. PAST THE POINT OF THE
CRIMINAL CHARGES. HOW CAN WE-
**** RECONCILE THAT- REALITY-
BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THESE DOCTORS EVEN WHEN.
UNDER INVESTIGATION IF THEY'RE
NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PRACTICE
ABSOLUTELY. I'LL BE FRANK WITH
YOU OUR INVESTIGATIONS TAKE WAY
TOO LONG- IT SAYS DR HAWKINS
POINTED OUT H. U. I. U. HAS BEEN
UNDERSTAFFED. AS LONG AS I'VE
BEEN ON THE BOARD OF FOR THE
PAST SEVEN YEARS AND I SUSPECT
THAT THOSE INVESTIGATOR
POSITIONS WERE DIFFICULT TO FILL
EVEN PRIOR TO THAT. IT'S A
MATTER OF RESOURCES RIGHT- AND
AGAIN I HATE TO MAKE THIS ALL
ABOUT MONEY BUT WE NEED TO HAVE
THE RESOURCES IN PLACE SO THAT
WE CAN INVESTIGATE OUR CASES TO
MAKE SURE WERE- WE HAVE THE
RESOURCES WE NEED- TO MAKE SURE
THAT YOU KNOW OUTCOMES LIKE THE
ONE THAT YOU DESCRIBED DON'T
OCCUR- IT'S BEEN IT. A FOCUS OF
OUR BOARD- WE ARE NOT. WE DON'T
BELIEVE THAT OUR ENFORCEMENT
TIME LINES ARE ACCEPTABLE RIGHT
YES HOW LONG THEY CAN TAKE THEY
CAN TAKE THREE YEARS OR MORE-
FOR US TO GO FROM START TO
FINISH I'M AND WE DON'T THINK
THAT RESULTS IN GREAT OUTCOMES
BUT WE DO THINK THAT SOME OF
THAT THAT MANY OF THE PROPOSALS
WE MADE INCLUDING. THE REQUEST
FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING CAN HELP
US ADDRESS THOSE CHALLENGES AND
GET OURSELVES IN A BETTER
POSITION THAT DRUGS YOU MIGHT
WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. FOR
FURTHER MENTION THAT. WE HAVE
THESE PANELS PENALTY AND B. THAT
ACTUALLY REVIEWS THE CASES
INDEPENDENTLY MAKE CONFESSION
ABOUT WHETHER WE AGREE. WITH THE
RECOMMENDATION FOR DISCIPLINE OR
NOT. AND SOMETIMES YOU LOOK
OCCASION THEY WILL. WHY THIS
TAKES SO WITH ALONG THE WAY. AND
I. IS SOMETIMES EXTREMELY
FRUSTRATING. BUT ONE SEED
HELPFUL BUT THIS DUE PROCESS
THAT WE RUN INTO RELATED
POSITIONS. THE EXAMPLE THAT-
SLOW SMOKER WAS GIVE US WHERE.
SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEN- DO
WE MAY BE INVESTIGATED SOMETHING
ELSE HAPPENED. THERE IS THIS DUE
PROCESS THING THAT WE CAN'T
ACTUALLY GET AROUND AS TO WHAT
THE LAW. WELL I THINK YOUR
QUESTION RAISES. VERY GOOD
POINTS MANY WHICH HAVE ALREADY
BEEN ADDRESSED- PART OF THE
CRITICISM THAT THE BOARD FACES
IS THAT. PATIENTS AREN'T AWARE
THAT THESE VERY SERIOUS
INVESTIGATIONS ARE GOING ON. AND
THE BOARD IS LIMITED AS TO WHAT
IT CAN POST ON THE PHYSICIAN'S
PROFILE BY BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONS CODE SECTION TWENTY
TWENTY SEVEN. SO THIS A
PHYSICIAN WHO'S BEEN CHARGED
WITH A CRIME THAT IS NOT A
POSSIBLE EVENT- THERE'S NO
REQUIREMENT THAT A PHYSICIAN
TELL THEIR PATIENTS THAT THEY'VE
BEEN CHARGED WITH A CRIME. OF
THE BOARD. CAN'T JUST SIMPLY
RESTRICT THE PHYSICIAN'S LICENSE
BECAUSE THEY'RE CHARGED WITH A
CRIME. THE BOARD CAN GO IN TO
THE SUPERIOR COURT WHEN. THIS IS
BEING ADDRESSED LIKE AT AN
ARRAIGNMENT AND ASKED THE JUDGE
TO IMPOSE A PRACTICE
RESTRICTION. WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS
GRANTED. ANOTHER AVENUE IS THE
BOARD CAN SEEK AN INTERIM
SUSPENSION ORDER THROUGH AN
ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE. THE-
CHALLENGE THERE IS THAT IF AN
INTERIM SUSPENSION ORDER IS
GRANTED THE BOARD HAS TO BE
PREPARED TO PUT ITS CASE ON. IN
FOR WITHIN THIRTY DAYS. SO THE
BOARD HAS TO HAVE THAT
INVESTIGATION NEARLY COMPLETE TO
BE READY TO GO FOR THE INTERIM
SUSPENSION ORDER WILL DISSOLVE.
AND IF THE INVESTIGATION IS RASH
IN THE CASE IS RUSHED YOU CAN
IMAGINE THAT A BAD RESULT. WITH
THAT- DISCIPLINARY ACTION WOULD
NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
CONSUMER PROTECTION. SO THOSE
ARE A FEW OF THE CHALLENGES
INVOLVED IN THESE VERY SERIOUS
CASES THAT ARE UPSETTING TO ALL
OF US. WHAT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S
A POLICY THERE IS OF SOME POLICY
REMEDY THAT THE LEGISLATURE
COULD OFFER IN TERMS OF- THIS
PARTICULAR. TWO ZERO TWO TWO
SEVEN. TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN
TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN- POLICY- IT
AND- I GUESS THE THAT THAT
BRINGS ME TO IN IN IF YOU HAVE
OTHER SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT THAT
HOW THAT COULD BE REMEDIED I
THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO
KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHER WAYS IN
WHICH POLICY CAN HELP TO. THE
THREE YOUR HANDS TO DO WHAT'S
NECESSARY TO PROTUBERANCE- THE
PUBLIC. OF THIS PREDICAMENT WE
DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO. THE
OPPOSITION FROM PRACTICING. IF
IS EVIDENCE THAT THEY'RE
MENTALLY OR PHYSICALLY IMPAIRED
BUT EVEN THAT TAKES PROCESS IT
MAY TAKE. WEEKS. THANK YOU FOR
THAT THAT CLARIFICATION- THERE'S
ANOTHER AGAIN IN MY IN MY
DISTRICT HEADLINES AROUND THE IN
. B. EXPERIENCE- THAT LED TO THE
DEATH OF A WOMAN- GIVING
CHILDBIRTH IN MY DISTRICT
RECENTLY I'M A BLACK WOMAN WHO-
THROUGH A NUMBER OF-
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MEDICAL
TEAM THAT WAS PROVIDING CARE.
AND BASICALLY IGNORED SOME OF
HER CONCERNS- CLEARLY IT WAS AN
INITIAL OF IMPLICIT BIAS THAT
TOOK PLACE IN THAT EFFORT AND
INVESTIGATIONS ARE CONTINUING-
IN THAT EFFORT AS HER FAMILY
SEEKING JUSTICE- IN THE LOSS OF
HER LIFE IN AND OUT OF HER. HER
CHILD- BUT I WONDER WHAT IS THE
BOARD DOING IN PARTICULAR TO
PROTECT BLACK WOMEN PATIENTS IN
CALIFORNIA- FROM THESE KINDS OF
INSTANCES RELATED TO- TO FATAL
CONSEQUENCES DUE TO IMPLICIT
BIAS BY MEDICAL PROVIDERS WE
SAW. HUNDREDS OF CASES COMING
OUT OF COVE IT EVEN A PHYSICIAN
OR SELF WHO DID A YOUTUBE VIDEO
EXPLAINING HOW SHE WAS NOT
GETTING ADEQUATE CARE IN AND
DIED- A FEW DAYS LATER YOU KNOW
WHAT IS IT THAT WE ARE DOING
HERE IN CALIFORNIA TO HEAR BLACK
WOMEN WHO- COMPLAIN OF PAIN
COMPLAIN OF. OF SERIOUS
CONDITIONS THAT ARE DEVELOPING
IN THE IN THE MIDST OF CARE TO
ENSURE THAT THEIR VOICES ARE
HEARD I KNOW MY PREDECESSOR
PASSED- AB TWO FORTY NINE TO DO
IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING-
UNFORTUNATELY LOST ANOTHER
PERSON IN MY DID IT IN MY HEAD
NEIGHBORING- COMMUNITIES AND SO
JUST WANTING TO HEAR WHERE THAT
IS AND CAN YOU SPEAK TO. HOW HOW
MUCH OF A PRIORITY IS THIS- FOR
THE BOARD YES I DON'T START WITH
JUST A KNOWLEDGE IN WHAT AN
EXTRAORDINARY TRAGEDY THE CASES
THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE AT
THE BOARD OF COURSE AND ME
PERSONALLY ARE AWARE OF THE
CIRCUMSTANCES IN THAT CASE AND
THE BOARD HAS OPENED A
COMPLAINT- ON ITS OWN INITIATIVE
INTO THAT MATTER I WILL SAY THAT
CASE IN PARTICULAR. UNDERSCORES
NEED FOR REALLY GREATER
COLLABORATION ALSO- ACROSS THE
VARIOUS REGULATORY AGENCIES SO
MEDICAL BOARD OF CALIFORNIA THE
NURSING BOARD CD P. H. SO THAT
WE CAN REALLY- UNDERSTAND WHAT
HAPPENS THERE AND THEN
UNDERSTAND WHAT STEPS. CAN BE
TAKEN SAID THAT A CIRCUMSTANCE
LIKE THAT NEVER OCCURS AGAIN AND
YOUR QUESTION ABOUT IMPLICIT
BIAS TRAINING SO BOARD MEMBERS-
I MEAN WE HAVE OUR OWN
OBLIGATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS- TO
UNDERGO THAT TRAINING AS BOARD
MEMBERS- I THINK IT IS. ONE OF
THE PREVIOUS OF- BOARDS ARE
BUREAUS WAS TALKING ABOUT DCA
HOSTING THAT SORT OF TRAINING
THERE IS ONE UP COMING FOR ALL
OF US ABOUT YOU ALSO TALKED
ABOUT A. B. TWO FOUR ONE I
BELIEVE OF TWENTY NINETEEN WHICH
IMPLIES THAT REQUIRED CME
COURSES TO INCLUDE THAT
INFORMATION SO THAT'S- ONE OF
THE WAYS- AND I BELIEVE WE-
SUPPORTED THAT LEGISLATION. THAT
AND- THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WE
CAN HAVE AN IMPACT- WITH RESPECT
TO THAT SORT OF WORK FORCE- YEAH
DEVELOPMENT I'M YOU KNOW HOW WE
MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE WORK
FORCE IS. OF PHYSICIANS AND
SURGEONS AND THE OTHER REGULATED
PROFESSIONS THAT WE REGULATE- WE
TAKE MORE OF A SUPPORTING ROLE
IN THAT REGARD. I WOULD BE
INTERESTED IN IN LEARNING FROM
YOU AND OTHERS ABOUT YOU KNOW
AREAS THAT YOU SEE WHERE WE
COULD BE MORE INVOLVED WHETHER
IT WOULD BE ENERGY CATION
FUNCTION. OR OTHERWISE WE DO
GATHER A LOT OF DATA THAT THAT
WE THEN SHARE WITH OTHER
REGULATORY AGENCIES LIKE THE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CARE
ACCESS. INFORMATION AND SO. WE
GATHER A LOT OF INFORMATION- BUT
YOU KNOW AGAIN TO ADDRESS YOUR
QUESTION SPECIFICALLY WE DON'T
TAKE A LEAD ROLE- IN THAT SORT
OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT MAKING
SURE THAT- THE WORKFORCE IS
TRAINED APPROPRIATELY YOU KNOW
ONCE OF THE LICENSING HAS
OCCURRED. I DON'T YOU KNOW IF
YOU WANT TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION. SO LET MISS LAWSON
POINTED OUT WE ARE SITTING WITH
A LOT OF THIS. HEALTHCARE ACCESS
DATA WITH US WHICH WE SHARE WITH
OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT CAN
ANALYZE IT TO SEE WERE. THERE
ARE THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF
HEALTHCARE AND ESPECIALLY THEY
CAN BREAK IT DOWN TO DIVERSE
POPULATION SO. THEY CAN MAKE
SURE WHERE WHERE ARE THE- THE
DESERT SO TO SPEAK WERE-
POSITIONS ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO.
TREAT ADEQUATELY THE NEEDS FOR
THE DIVORCE OF PUBLIC POPULATION
SO WE ARE A RESOURCE TO THAT
GROUP- JUST WANT TO ADD ON TO A
LITTLE BIT. FOR THEIR- LIKE SOME
WE HEARD FROM SOME SOME OF THE
MURALS ON- TODAY THE EARLIER
TODAY- BACK IN. NOVEMBER TWENTY
TWENTY TWO DEC A STEP THIS D. I.
STEERING. AND I AM OF THE STATE
COMMITTEE- THERE'S TWELVE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND I'M ONE OF
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND WE
JUST WENT THROUGH. A WHOLE DAY
TRAINING ON DE I A COUPLE OF
WEEKS AGO NEXT WEEK THERE WILL
BE A LARGER AUDIENCE- INCLUDING
ALL DC ABORTS AND BUREAUS COMING
TOGETHER FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF
D. I. TRAINING. AND EVENTUALLY
AND OUT AT THE SAME TIME- SOME
OF THE- TRAINERS THE DCA ARE
GETTING CERTIFIED THEY'RE
GETTING FIFTY HOURS A
CERTIFICATION. AND THEN AFTER
THE CERTIFICATION THAT TRAINING
WILL BE ROLLED OUT TO ALMOST ALL
DCA EMPLOYEES. AND BOARD MEMBERS
AND EVERYONE SO THIS IS.
EXCITING TIME AND- I'M I'M GLAD
THAT- WE ARE- TAKING THIS
APPROACH AND THIS WILL
EVENTUALLY. HELP AND MAKING SURE
THAT WE ADDRESS SOME OF THE
CONCERNS. THAT ARE OUT WELL I'M
I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT. THE
STAFF BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF
GOING THROUGH THAT TRAINING- AND
I'M I'M- JUST ALSO WONDERING ON
THAT CONTINUING. EDUCATION
CURRICULUM. THE CASE THAT I'M-
APRIL'S DEATH- THE YOUNG WOMAN-
WHO EXPERIENCE THIS IMPLICIT
BIAS THAT THAT LED TO HER HER
DEATH AND IN THE DEATH OF HER.
HER BABY- WILL THESE LESSONS
LEARNED FROM THAT. SORT OF
REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF WHAT
TOOK PLACE. IN TERMS OF SHARING
DATA HOW DOES THAT INFORM THE
CURRICULUM THAT YOUR- THE- YOUR
YOUR LICENSEES WILL WILL GET IN
TERMS OF THE CONTINUING
EDUCATION ARE YOU ALL ENSURING
THAT WHOEVER'S PROVIDING THAT
CURRICULUM IS UPDATING IT WITH.
THE DATA THAT IS COMING FROM THE
FIELD THAT YOU ALL ARE VALUE
WAITING BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU
LEARN SOMETHING FROM EVERY CASE
AND THAT HOPEFULLY WILL PREVENT
THE NEXT ONE- KNOWLEDGE IS POWER
IN THAT SENSE SO HOW DOES THAT
INFORMATION GETS SHARED.
RELEVANT REAL TIME EXAMPLES I AM
IN THE FIELD. THIS ARE YOU ABLE
TO SPEAK TO HOW WE- AT WHETHER
WE HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN THE
ACTUAL CURRICULUM AS IT'S
DEVELOPED ONCE THE LEGISLATION
WITH. THE BOARD DOES NOT HAVE
INVOLVEMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT
OF THE CURRICULUM THE- PROVIDERS
ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE LAW
AND- ARMED WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR
CONTINUING MEDICAL EDUCATION-
THE BOARD HAS TAKEN AN INTEREST
IN THAT AND- ARE LAST. IN THE-
IT IT IN DECEMBER WE HAD AS A
TWO SPEAKERS ON IMPLICIT BIAS
AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF
CONTINUING MEDICAL EDUCATION IN
REDUCING DISPARITIES IN THE L.
G. B. T. Q. COMMUNITY. AND OUR
EARLIER LAST YEAR WE HAD A
SPEAKER- DR ARGUE OUR ****
YOLANDE FROM UC DAVIS HE-
STUDIES THIS HE HE SPOKE ON. THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF CME IN GENERAL
IN. ADDRESSING IMPLICIT BIAS AND
SO. THIS IS AN AREA THAT THE
BOARD IS VERY INTERESTED IN I
THINK YOU'RE YOUR QUESTION IS A
VERY GOOD ONE ABOUT. BOB IS THE
BOARD. ENSURED THAT THE
PROVIDERS ARE MEETING THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW AND I
THINK THAT WE SHOULD. TAKE A
CLOSER LOOK AT THAT. MY COMMENT
IN THIS IS A COMPLICATED
SITUATION. SEE HOW TERRIBLE
SITUATION WE HAVE TOO MANY OF
THESE CASES OF- BUT PARNELL
DEATH AMONG AFRICAN AMERICAN
WOMEN BUT ALSO BROWN WOMEN AND
IT INVOLVES A LOT OF DIFFERENT
BECAUSE A LOT OF MEDICAL ISSUES.
AND SO WE HAVE OXYGEN
GYNECOLOGISTS WHO WERE WHOSE JOB
IS TO. HELP THIS WOMAN GET
THROUGH A SAY PREGNANCY AND
DELIVERY A HEALTHY- HEALTHY
INFANT- BUT IT STARTS WAY WAY
WAY BACK WITH A LOT OF STUFF HAD
TO DO WITH. HEALTH CHOICES-
REGULAR MEDICAL CARE REGULAR
FOLLOW UP YOU THINK THAT WITH
THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT KEEP
OCCURRING THAT. A BETTER JOB
WILL BE DONE TO REDUCE- MATERNAL
MATERNITY MORTALITY- WE WERE
SINCE SOME THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES
ACTUALLY. BUT THIS PERSON AS FAR
AS I WAS TOLD THAT ALL THE RIGHT
THINGS TO ME SHE CHOSE A
POSITION LOOKS LIKE ME AND YOU-
WHO WON WITH YOU COULD BE AWARE
OF THIS- INCREASE. MORTALITY OR
MORBIDITY RISK- BUT I DON'T KNOW
THAT AND I DON'T KNOW THE
DETAILS ABOUT THIS TOWN THAT
THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE WHERE
THERE WAS THE PHYSICIANS ISSUE
WHETHER WAS ANOTHER ISSUE. ON
THE FRINGE INFORMATION HAVE HIS
INTIMATE FACES IN THE NEWSPAPER
WHICH IS NOT ENOUGH TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED. BUT AS
I TALK TO MEDICAL STUDENTS ABOUT
THE MEDICAL BOARD AND PROTECTING
THEIR LICENSE AND THE PROFESSOR
HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA- WE ALSO
HAVE TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT.
CARING FOR INDIVIDUALS AND THE
FACT THAT YOU MAY NOT
UNDERSTAND. THAT YOUR DECISIONS
OR RELATED TO SOMETHING THAT IT
IS SUB CONSCIOUS- BUT YOU HAVE
TO PUT IT OUT THERE HE HAS THE
FOLKS KNOW THAT IT EXISTS AND
THERE WAS NO EXISTING HAVE
ABILITY TO DEAL WITH IT SO THE
QUESTION A PERSON'S BIASES TALK
ABOUT MORE AND MORE BECAUSE IT'S
A REAL THING. AND FOCUSED ON
UNDERSTAND IT'S ACTUALLY THERE.
WHOSE MISSION EARLY MEDICAL
BOARD DID SOME THINGS WITH SO WE
HAVE. AN IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING
WE ALSO REDACTED SOMETHING FOR
THE MEDICAL RECORD WHERE. YOU
MAY THINK I MAY THINK THAT IF
YOU WENT TO STANFORD THAT MAKE
SURE BETTER DOCTOR. AND IF YOU
WENT TO THE EXCELLENT
INSTITUTION. OKAY HOSPITAL.
FORTY YEARS AGO HE GETS
SUBSTANTIVE CARE. WELL WE TOOK
THAT STUFF OUT OF THERE SO
REVIEWER. AS A PERSON'S VOTING
ABOUT WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN I DON'T
GIVE AN INDIVIDUAL DOCTOR LINK
UP AT THE LAKE DOWN. FOR
SOMETHING IS NOT RELEVANT TO THE
PRACTICE OF MEDICINE. DID WAS A
STANDARD OF CARE NOT MET. AND
THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO. AND IF
I MAY ADD ONE MORE THING. THIS
IS A SPACE WE REALLY WOULD LIKE
TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC- BUT THE
EXPERIENCES THEY'RE GOING
THROUGH AND FOR. THE FOR THAT
MATTER NOW THAT CODE IS BEHIND
US- AUGUST BOARD MEETING IS
SCHEDULED TO BE HELD AT
BAKERSFIELD. BUT WE ARE GOING
TO- TO THE LOCATION WHERE-
PATIENTS DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL OR
TRYING TO GET ON THE PHONE TO
TALK TO US WE ARE GOING TO THEM
SO WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT FROM
THAT STANDPOINT. NO THANK YOU
AND MISS LOS MADE ME VERY AWARE
OF THAT- UPCOMING ON SITE AND-
ENCOURAGING THE BOARD TO DO THAT
MORE OFTEN IN VERTICALLY GOING
TO THOSE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES
THAT HAVE LIMITED ACCESS. I MEAN
WHERE THESE INCIDENTS HAPPEN FAR
FAR TOO TOO OFTEN IN AND HAPPY
TO CONNECT WITH YOU ON. PARTNERS
AND ORGANIZATIONS- TO HELP
UNDERSTAND- HOW THESE THINGS
HAPPEN IN IN WAYS THAT THEY
THINK- THE MEDICAL BOARD COULD
PLAY A ROLE IN PREVENTING THEM-
I AND- MY FINAL QUESTION. HAS TO
DO WITH YOUR ROLE- DIRECTLY
DISCIPLINING- PHYSICIANS AND
THERE WAS A STUDY DONE BY THE
CALIFORNIA RESEARCH BUREAU. BACK
IN TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN- THAT
LOOKED AT THE COMPLAINTS IN THE
DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS- THAT HAVE
BEEN TAKEN. BY THE BOARD AND THE
STUDY FOUND THAT LATIN ACTS AND
BLACK DOCTORS WERE MORE LIKELY-
TO HAVE COMPLAINTS- THAT SPARKED
INVESTIGATIONS AND DISCIPLINARY
ACTIONS AGAINST THEM WHEN
COMPARED TO THEIR WHITE AND
ASIAN COUNTERPARTS AND WE- JUST
TALKED ABOUT HOW FEW COMPLAINTS
ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD. SO TO SEE
THAT OF THOSE THAT DO- LATIN
MAXIM BLACK DOCTORS- SEEM TO
FACE- HIGHER DISCIPLINARY ACTION
SO JUST WONDERING WHAT MEASURES
IS THE BOARD. TAKING TO DEAL
WITH THESE RACIAL DISPARITIES
YEAH THAT WAS- TO DOCTOR HAWKINS
POINTS OUT JUST A MINUTE AGO.
THAT WAS WE WERE AWARE OF THAT
IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THE BOARD
THAT WE- AGAIN ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES OF IMPLICIT BIAS OUT
REGAN EXPLICIT BIAS FOR THAT
MATTER AND TAKE- I HAVE A
CERTAIN MARKERS IF YOU WELL OUT
OF OUR PROCESS THESE. SO AGAIN
WHEN WE REVIEW THE DISCIPLINARY
ACTIONS THAT GET TO THE BOARD
MEMBERS THEIR REDACTED SO WE
ONLY SEE INITIALS RIGHT SO
THINGS THAT WOULD YOU KNOW TEND
TO INDICATE. THAT SOMEONE MIGHT
BE FROM ONE DAM DEMOGRAPHIC OR
ANOTHER ARE REMOVED TO THE
EXTENT POSSIBLE SO THAT'S TAKEN
OUT OF OUR PROCESS- BUT AGAIN
THAT THAT WAS PART OF WORK THAT
OUR PREVIOUS BOARD PRESIDENT.
DENISE PINES WHO NOW IS ON THE
ASTO OSTEOPATHIC MEDICAL BOARD
WAS REALLY REALLY INTERESTED AND
INVOLVED IN AND LEAD AND IT LED
TO A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS THAT
WE STILL ARE CONTINUING TO
IMPLEMENT- TODAY. WE WOULD
WELCOME ANY INFORMATION YOU HAVE
ABOUT OTHER STEPS WE CAN TAKE IN
OUR PROCESS THESE- TO REMOVE
BIAS AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE
THOSE- DISPARATE OUTCOMES- I
THINK YOU ALSO FIND THAT TO BE
THE CASE IN THE- API COMMUNITY
TOO IT'S NOT. THERE THERE ARE
SOME DISPARATE OUTCOMES- AND
HAVE BEEN FOR SURE AND WE'VE
REALLY LOOKED TO REMEDY THAT
SITUATION THROUGH THESE VARIOUS
MEASURES AND LIKE I SAID. WE
WELCOME ANY OTHER INPUT YOU OR
OTHERS HAVE ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO
. EVEN BETTER. THANK YOU MISTER.
BERMAN THE MESSAGE. HOPEFULLY
JUST TO QUESTIONS ONE IS TALKING
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
COMPLAINANT LIAISON UNIT. HOW
THAT PROCESS WOULD WORK AND HOW
YOU THINK. THIS NEW PROCESS
WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE
CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.
BY SOME CONSUMER GROUPS ABOUT
THE CURRENT PROCESS. NATALIE IT
THROUGH 5H
WALK YOU THROUGH THAT- AND I'VE
REALLY BEEN ENGAGED INVOLVED- OF
COURSE WITH THE BOARD BUT WITH A
NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS- IN
THINKING THROUGH WHAT THIS UNIT
MIGHT. LOOK LIKE IT STARTED OFF
FRANKLY- AS A CONVERSATION
DURING OUR LAST SUNSET REVIEW IN
TWENTY TWENTY ONE. BASED ON SOME
COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AT THE
TIME BY THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC
INTEREST LAW ABOUT THIS IDEA OF
AN OMBUDSMAN'S UNIT RIGHT- THAT
WAS AND I THINK SOME OF THEIR
PUBLIC COMMENTS THE MISSION AT
THE TIME AND SO WE WERE THINKING
ABOUT OKAY HOW CAN WE TAKE THAT
CONCEPT- AND YOU TO REALLY THINK
ABOUT. HOW WE CAN HELP CONSUMERS
AND COMPLAINS. BOTH UNDERSTAND
OUR PROCESS AND THEN- MAKE MAKE
SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO
PROVIDE AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES
THAT THEY WILL HAVE FOR
ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE
PROCESS SO. IT'S ABOUT
EVERYTHING FROM ASSISTING US
CONSUMERS WITH- INITIALLY FILING
THEIR COMPLAINT RIGHT SOMETIMES
WE ARE FROM CONSUMERS WELL YOU
HAVE ON YOUR WEBSITE IS THIS
BOX- AND THEN WE FILLED OUT THE
BOX WE THOUGHT WE'D BE FOLLOWED
UP WITH RIGHT WITHOUT SOMEONE
WOULD. CALL US AND ASK FOR MORE
EVIDENCE OR THE BACKGROUND- SO
YOU KNOW. ASSISTING CONSUMERS
WITH OF WITH FILING A COMPLAINT
WITH EFFECTIVELY AND COMPLETELY.
AND THEN OFFERING SUPPORT TO
THOSE COMPLAINTS AFTER THE CASE
HAS BEEN REFERRED TO THE FIELD
FOR INVESTIGATION. THERE
OFTENTIMES QUESTIONS AND
CONCERNS TO SHARE WE DO FEEL A
LOT OF QUESTIONS- ALREADY. ABOUT
YOU KNOW WE'RE IS MY COMPLAINT
IN THE PROCESS CAN'T DO I HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED-
IT'S ALSO ABOUT INCREASED
INCREASING- CONSUMER OUTREACH
THROUGH EVENTS- EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES HAVING SOMEONE
THAT CAN DO OUT REACH OUT TO THE
COMMUNITY. AND ALSO POTENTIALLY
TO HELP US EVALUATE- COMPLAINT
CLOSURE REVIEW REQUESTS RIGHT SO
THAT'S AN AREA- AS WELL WE DO
THINK IT. IT WOULD PAIR UP
NICELY WITH OUR ONLINE TRACKING
SYSTEM THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING WE
THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR. IS THAT COLLABORATION
BETWEEN. A SYSTEM OF MAYBE WE
WILL GET THERE WITH A AYE RIGHT
BUT- AT SO THAT WE THINK THERE'S
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TO- WORK
TOGETHER- BUT AGAIN IT'S A
RESOURCE ISSUE FOR US- WE DO
REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IF
WE WANT TO STAND THAT. UNIT UP-
BUT WE THINK THAT IT WOULD BE
HELPFUL TO THE PROCESS- AND-
ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO ADD
ANYTHING. I CAN. ALSO SHARE SOME
OF THEIR THIS IS THIS WILL BE A
WIN WIN SITUATION FOR THE BOARD
ALSO AS YOU SAW IN THAT PIE
CHART IN A LARGE NUMBER OF
COMPLAINTS ARE BEING CLOSED.
BECAUSE OF NON JEWS FICTIONAL ON
ACTIONABLE COMPLAIN THIS WILL BE
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMPLAIN
LAYS ON YOU AND WHEN THEY MAKE
THAT FIRST CONTACT WITH THE
PUBLIC TO EDUCATE THEM. OKAY YOU
HAVE A COMPLAINT AGAINST
ADMITTED DR BUT THE DOCTORS THAT
DEAL. WE ARE NOT THAT SOURCE SO.
IT CAN REDUCE BECAUSE YOU KNOW
WE GET THIS COMPLAINS THAT WE
ARE CLOSING BUT THAT STILL NEED
TO BE PROCESS BECAUSE THE
RESOURCE ISSUE WE JUST CANNOT.
YOU KNOW CLOSE IT OUT JUST LIKE
THIS IS A RESOURCE ISSUE SO THIS
UNIT. WOULD HAVE AN INTANGIBLE
BENEFIT ON THAT SITE TO. SURE
TRYING TO. CHECK SOME BOXES THAT
THE COMPLAINANT SAID THIS REALLY
BUGS ME THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM
FOR ME. WHY CAN'T X. Y. Z.
OCCUR. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO
CHECK THOSE BOXES WITH THIS UNIT
. I APPRECIATE THAT AND THE
RESOURCE ISSUE HAS BEEN FOUGHT A
LOT THANKFULLY SO WE'VE LET OFF
THE Q. AND A WITH THAT- IS THERE
IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO YEAH
ONCE ONCE HOPEFULLY THE CURRENT
SHORTFALL. GETS RESOLVED I KNOW
IT'S HARD IN THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT WOULD APPLY TO ANY BOARD-
BUT IT'S HARD TO TAKE TO COME
BACK EVERY FOUR YEARS- THAT TO
THEN. ASK FOR MAYBE A BIG
INCREASE BECAUSE IT'S
ACCUMULATED OVER THE DEFICIT
ACCUMULATED OVER FOUR YEARS. AS
OPPOSED TO SOMETHING A LITTLE
MORE SMALLER AND MORE GRADUAL
EVERY YEAR. HAS THERE BEEN ANY.
FODDER CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT
ABOUT HAVING A- CBI. ADJUSTMENT
KIND OF BUILT IN TO IT SO THAT
IT'S LESS OF A SHOCK. WHEN THE
FEES YOU GET REYES YEAH THE A
PRELIMINARY REPORT FROM THE
ENFORCEMENT MONITOR RECOMMENDS
YOU KNOW CPI OR SOME YOU KNOW
OTHER RECOGNIZED- BAROMETER IS A
WAVE- FOR IT TO INCREASE-
POTENTIALLY OVER TIME- SO THAT'S
CERTAINLY SOMETHING. WE THINK IS
WORTH EXPLORING WE ALSO THINK
IT'S WORTH EXPLORING HAVING THIS
AND REGULATIONS SO IT'S NOT.
THERE'S AT A DIFFERENT PROCESS
IF YOU WILL LIKE THE BOARD OF
ACCOUNTANCY I UNDERSTAND. HAS
ABS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO
CONTINUE TO COME BACK TO THE
LEGISLATURE AFTER THAT THE
INCREASE. EVERY FOUR YEARS I
HOPE. THAT'S NOT EVERY TO FOR
NOT EVERY NOT EVERY TWO YEARS I
LIKE THE SAID EVERY. FOUR YEARS
AGO- YEAH WE WOULD WELCOME THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE SOME MORE
CERTAINTY IN PLACE FRANKLY I
THINK THAT OUR LICENSEES WOULD
WELCOME- HAVING SOME MORE
CERTAINTY IN PLACE. RATHER THAN.
AGAIN WHAT THEY'RE FACING
CURRENTLY WHICH IS A POTENTIALLY
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN FEES.
BECAUSE WE'VE. COLLECTIVELY
KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. I
THINK PRIOR TO THE FLASHY WITH
THE EIGHTY DOLLAR INCREASE IT
WAS. FIFTEEN YEARS ALONG
BEFOREHAND IF THE INCREASE THERE
WAS. THE POTENTIAL PAY THE TIME
ELAPSED- PART OF THAT. THANKS
THANK YOU MR. YOU KNOW I THINK
ONE OF THE ISSUES REALLY IS THE-
THE COMPLEXITY OF YOUR-
DISCIPLINE PROCESS. AND I'VE
SAID THIS BEFORE AND I DON'T
HAVE A SOLUTION SO I GUESS I'M
LOOKING AT YOU TO. HELP ME HELP
YOU. YOU KNOW IN CASES WERE- I
GUESS IN EVERY EVERY CASE. YOU
HAVE TO ESTABLISH A CONNECTION
BETWEEN THE CONDUCT INVOLVED IN.
AN UNPROFESSIONAL CONDUCT IN
ORDER TO. ESTABLISH A VIOLATION
. WHICH I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND
AND MAKE A MEDICAL NEGLIGENCE
CASES. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IN
OTHER TYPES OF CASES WHERE YOU
KNOW PERSONAL CONDUCT. BY AN
INDIVIDUAL NEEDS TO BE ANALYZED
BY I GUESS SOME MEDICAL EXPERTS
TO DETERMINE THE CONNECTION
BETWEEN THE CONDUCT IN THE
PRACTICE OF MEDICINE. AND I'VE
USED THIS EXAMPLE BEFORE SO IF
I'M A PHYSICIAN. AND I HAPPEN TO
SEE A PATIENT ONCE OR TWICE IN
MY OFFICE. SIX TWELVE MONTHS AGO
. AND I SEE THE PATIENT HAVEN'T
SEEN HER IN AWHILE TO SHE THE
SYRIAN CAPITAL PARK. AND I
ATTEMPT TO RAPE THE PATIENT.
THEN YOU HAVE TO RETAIN A
MEDICAL EXPERTS. TO ESTABLISH
THAT MY CONDUCT. IS
UNPROFESSIONAL AND RELATED TO
THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE IN
ORDER TAKEN DISCIPLINARY ACTION
AGAINST ME. AS A LICENSEE IS
THAT CORRECT DOCTOR. WE CAN AS
THE WATER I THINK THAT. YEAH I
MEAN THERE ARE CASES RIGHT I
MEAN IT IT'S NOT- SIMPLY
SUFFICIENT FOR US TO RECEIVE A
CRIMINAL CONVICTION FOR EXAMPLE
ENEMY MISLED YOU CAN SPEAK TO
THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS TO
YOUR POINT CENTER THAT WE WOULD
NEED TO DEMONSTRATE AND- AND
SHOW BEFORE THAT LICENSE COULD
BE SUBJECT TO DISCIPLINE. THE
LAW REQUIRES A I DON'T
UNDERSTAND RIGHT RIGHT TO SEX
SAYS WHICH IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
IS I DON'T UNDERSTAND FOR
EXAMPLE IN THE CRIMINAL CASE
THAT RESULTS IN A CONVICTION WHY
YOU SHOULD HAVE TO RETRY THE
CASE TO ESTABLISH THE FACTS.
IT'S NOT RETRAIN THE KEYS IT'S
THE- PHYSICIAN AT HEARING IS
LIKELY TO HAVE AN EXPERT THAT
SAYS. THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN IN
THEIR MEDICAL PRACTICE THIS IS
NOT RELATED TO THE PRACTICE OF
MEDICINE EXACTLY RIGHT THAT'S MY
POINT. SO IF IT'S A SERIOUS
CRIME. IT'S OKAY TO BE A DOCTOR
- YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE CHOIR
ON THIS ON THIS SENATOR I'M JUST
I'M I'M REACHING I JUST I'M- IS
MY POINT IS I THINK WE NEED TO.
AND I'VE TOLD OTHER STAKEHOLDERS
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOU THAT WE
NEED TO RETHINK THIS MEDICAL
PRACTICE ACT BECAUSE. IN AREAS
OTHER. UFFE ITSELF WHERE YOU
HAVE TO HAVE MEDICAL EXPERTS TO
DECIDE WHAT THE STANDARD OF CARE
IS AND WHETHER THE STANDARD OF
CARE WAS BREACHED BUT WE HAVE A
WHOLE OTHER ANOTHER MAY NOT BE
VERY MANY OF THEM BECAUSE WE
HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STATISTICS
BUT AT LEAST THERE'S SOME OF
THEM. THAT ARE OUTSIDE THAT
ARENA WHERE WE APPLY THE SAME
PROCESS THAT TAKES TIME AND COST
MONEY. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO
FACE THE ISSUE I GUESS WE'RE
GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE THIS THING
OUT AND SEE IF WE CAN'T MAKE
THIS THING. A LITTLE SIMPLER. TO
COST YOU LESS MONEY BECAUSE WITH
MO YOU INCREASES WITH THE COST
OF GOVERNMENT INCREASING WITH
THE COST OF EVERYTHING
INCREASING. AND WITH THE
COMPLEXITY OF YOUR OPERATION
THIRTEEN HUNDRED AND WHATEVER IT
IS. IS NOT IS NOT GOING TO BE
ENOUGH TOMORROW AND WILL BE
ENOUGH THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW
AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE 10% COST
OF. LIVING ADJUSTMENT TO THIS
WILL BE SUFFICIENT SO. THE
CENTER OF THE- SEX OFFENSE
CONVICTION WOULD RESULT IN AN
IMMEDIATE REVOCATION OF LICENSE
THOUGH. RIGHT I THINK WE DID
THAT OR SOMEBODY WE DID THAT
HERE. LET ME GO BACK IF. I LET
ME JUST GO I WANNA GO BACK
THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER.
ISSUES IF WE HAVE TIME IN HERE
AND JUST GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY
TO TALK TO ME ABOUT IT. WE'VE
DISCUSSED THE COMPLAINT LIAISON
SOME OUTSIDE OF. THE BUILDING
HAVE SUGGESTED THAT- IT WOULD BE
IMPORTANT TO HAVE OF TO GIVE
VICTIMS WERE IN CASES WHERE
THERE IS A VICTIM WHICH WOULD BE
I GUESS A PATIENT. IN A MEDICAL
NEGLIGENCE CASE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SUBMIT A STATEMENT- TO BE
CONSIDERED AT SOME POINT IN THE
PROCESS. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH
OBVIOUSLY. PROBABLY LACKS OF IT
OBVIOUSLY LACKS EVIDENTIARY
VALUE BUT THERE IS PROBABLY
SOMETHING IN THERE- WHETHER IT'S
MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW. WE'RE
LOOKING AT THE PROPER LEG OR ARM
OR WHATEVER IT IS- OR THAT THE
MEDICAL RECORDS WERE NOT ALTERED
BECAUSE MAYBE THE PATIENT WOULD
SAY SOMETHING AND YOU CAN'T FIND
THAT IN THE MEDICAL RECORDS. SO
I GUESS MY POINT IS AND WE CAN
WORK THROUGH THIS WITH YOU
DURING THE PROCESS AT WHAT POINT
IN THE- IN THE PROCESS WITH A
VICTIM STATEMENT BE APPROPRIATE
TO. BE CONSIDERED BY- BOARD
MEMBERS WHO ARE MAKING A
DECISION YEAH AND AS AS YOU
NOTED THAT SOMETHING THAT WERE
HEARING REGULARLY FROM THE-
COMPLAINT IN THE PATIENT
ADVOCATE COMMUNITY ABOUT. THE
PATIENTS AND- ADVOCATES
COMPLAINS OF COURSE HAVE A
CRITICAL ROLE IN THE PROCESS
ALREADY BUT YOU TO BRING IT TO
OUR ATTENTION- TO POSSIBLE
SITUATIONS THAT SHOULD BE
INVESTIGATED. THE BOARD- HAS
INCLUDED IN OUR NEW FIVE YEAR
STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS JUST
RECENTLY ADOPTED A PRIORITY TO
CONSIDER HOW TO. IMPROVE
COMPLAIN COMMUNICATION AND
TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS THAT
ISN'T COMPLETELY GET OUT TO THE
QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING- I DON'T
KNOW THAT THE BOARD HAS DECIDED
OR THAT IT'S CLEAR TO US EXACTLY
HOW TO INCREASE THAT
INVOLVEMENT. THERE ARE OF COURSE
ALL THESE CONCERNS ABOUT DUE
PROCESS AND EVIDENTIARY
REQUIREMENTS AND- WHEN AT THE
APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR- SOME SORT
OF STATEMENT FROM- A VICTIM IF
YOU WILL LIKE A VICTIM IMPACT
STATEMENT MUCH LIKE THEY HAVE IN
THE CRIMINAL. CONTEXT COULD BE
INCLUDED BUT WE ARE EXPLORING
THAT AND AGAIN WE'RE OPEN TO
YOUR- SUGGESTION AS AN IMPORTANT
STAKEHOLDER IN THAT PROCESS. IF
WE ARE MISSING OUT ON
OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO. HAVE
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT
WOULD HELP US OUT SHOW THAT HAVE
POSITION VIOLATED THE LAW OR
THAT THERE'S SOME STANDARD OF
CARE VIOLATION- WE REALLY SHOULD
KNOW ABOUT THAT- WE WILL BE
EXPLORING AT OUR- MAY BOARD
MEETING HOW ARE YOU A PIECE OF
THIS HOW TO GET COMPLAINTS MORE
INVOLVED. I'M IN THE PROCESS
WHEN COMPLAINTS ARE OF YOU BY
MEDICAL. SO THIS IS A DIALOGUE
WERE HAVING AT THE BOARD- WE
KNOW THAT IT'S AN ISSUE THAT'S
OF GREAT CONCERN OF A IMPORTANCE
TO THE ADVOCATE COMMUNITY SO.
AGAIN OPEN TO- YEAH YOU'RE
THINKING ON THAT AS WELL ABOUT
HOW THAT THAT PROCESS MAY BE
PROVED SEEMS TO ME WOULD HAVE TO
BE PRETTY EARLY EARLIER IN THE
PROCESS SO EITHER AT THE-
PROBABLY AT THE SETTLEMENT STAGE
WHERE SOMEONE'S RECOMMENDING A
SETTLEMENT THAT THE VICTIM.
STATEMENT BE INCLUDED IN BE
PROVIDED TO THE RESPONDENT ON
THE OTHER SIDE TO ADDRESS THE
DUE PROCESS ISSUE. NOT YOU KNOW
WE HAVE TO PROVIDE IT IT'S NOT
EVIDENCE IN ANY CASE FOR ANY
PURPOSE BUT- IT COULD BE
CONSIDERED FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH
AT THE TIME. OR CERTAINLY IN THE
STIPULATED SETTLEMENT. CASES
WHERE THE- PANELS ARE GOING TO
BE INVOLVED IN APPROVING
SETTLEMENT SERVICES GOING
THROUGH. THE PROCESS HERE IN
MAKING NOTES AS TO WHEN YOU
MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IT YOU'RE
MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS
THAT I AM FOR SURE. AND I THINK
EARLY ON IT. PROBABLY IS A GOOD
TIME AND I THINK THAT. FOLKS
HAVE BEARING SKILLS IS THE
COMPLAINS OF HOW TO PRESENT WHAT
ACTUALLY HAPPENED. AND SO AS WE
TALK ABOUT HOW TO. HELP SOMEONE
HELPS AN INDIVIDUAL. COMMUNICATE
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. AND
REGGIE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING
HAPPENED WITH A- ACTUALLY A-
SONY CAME THE OFFICE RECENTLY
BUT- I THINK THAT. THERE IS. A
NEED FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE
TO ARTICULATE WELL WHAT IS THAT
WOULD HAPPEN. AND SO YOU TO
MENTION SOMETHING. IS LIKE THOSE
OF ISSUE SO QUESTION TAKEN
HISTORY. AND THEN BEGIN THE
PROCESS- IF NOTHING HAPPENED
THIS THIS THIS THIS THOUGHT THIS
IS NOT A VERY. THIS FINISHES
HAS. TAKEN HISTORY. AND THEN YOU
KNOW. TWENTY MINUTES LATER. YES
ANOTHER QUESTION IS THE SAME
QUESTION DIFFERENT WAY THEY SAID
OH YEAH THAT HAPPENED BOTH OF
US. AS IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
THAT THE AN INDIVIDUAL REALLY.
IS NOT. THINKING WELL ENOUGH FOR
VARIOUS REASONS ABOUT HOW TO
COMMUNICATE WHAT'S IMPORTANT I
THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT.
LET ME ASK- A JUMP AROUND A
LITTLE BIT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
ACCUSATIONS AND- THEN HAVING TO
PUT ON YOUR CASE IN THIRTY DAYS.
OF DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO TAKE A
LOOK AT THAT THIRTY DAY
REQUIREMENT WHEN YOU GO IN FOR A
SUSPENSION OF PRIVILEGES. AND
MAYBE LENGTHEN THE PERIOD OF
TIME THAT THE- BETWEEN THE-
POINT OF SUSPENSION ON THE
ISSUANCE OF THE ACCUSATION. THE
BOARD HAS INSTEAD TAKING A
POSITION ON THAT BUT I THINK
THAT. THAT IS. AN IMPORTANT TOOL
THAT HAS TO BE USED CAREFULLY
BECAUSE OF THAT THIRTY DAYS WELL
IT SHOULD BE USED CAREFULLY
ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S A VAST. THE
ECONOMICS HERE BUT I'M JUST
WONDERING IF THIRTY DAYS MAKES
SENSE OR IF IT SHOULD BE NINETY
DAYS OR A HUNDRED AND TWENTY
DAYS. IN ORDER TO- TO NOT- THROW
UP AN OBSTACLE. IN FRONT OF THE
BOARD WHEN THE BOARD FEELS THAT
THERE SHOULD BE A SUSPENSION OF
PRACTICE BUT YOU DO NOT GO INTO
COURT. BECAUSE OF THE THIRTY DAY
REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD BE
UNFORTUNATE. I MEAN I KNEW WELL
YOU HAVE TO TAKE A POSITION
RIGHT I MEAN I CAN SPEAK ONLY
FOR MYSELF THE BOARD HAS NOT
TAKEN A POSITION ON IT. BUT I
APPRECIATE YOU I'M GIVING IS A
VETERAN AND I PERSONAL THOUGHTS
HERE. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
MANDATORY REPORTING BECAUSE YOU
HAVE TAKEN YOU HAVE MADE SOME
SUGGESTIONS ON THAT SO PERHAPS
YOU COULD COVER THAT WITH ME. I
AM WHICH I ABOUT IS THAT SHINE.
YEAH ARE OKAY- LET ME GET YOUR
ISSUE NINE SO MAKE SURE WE'RE
ALL LOOKING THE SAME THING WELL
A LOT ONE IS COMMITTEES CENTER.
WELL THIS COMMITTEES MEDICAL TO
DIVE AND REGGIE ARE NOT WILLING
TO. GET TO THE RIGHT YEAH THIS
IS THIS IS AN EFFORT TO EXPAND
MORE FACILITIES. MAKING THEM.
MAKE MAKING IT A REQUIREMENT FOR
THEM TO- REPORT- BECAUSE WE ARE
THERE'S A VACUUM AT PRESENT WE
ARE GETTING SOME OF THE REPORTS-
THAT IT SHOULD BE SO THIS THIS
WOULD STRENGTHEN. OUR TOOL KIT
TO- GET MORE- PROACTIVE IN THAT
SENSE TO GET TO THE ISSUES THAT
LED TO THE POSITION MISCONDUCT
AT THOSE FACILITIES. THE
WELLNESS COMMITTEE IS THAT WHAT
I WOULD THINK OF AS SOMETHING
AKIN TO AN- EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE
PROGRAM FOR PHYSICIANS IT'S
ABOUT US COMMITTEES. THAT DEAL
WITH. ISSUES THAT THE PHYSICIAN
FACES AND THEY'RE AND THEY'RE
FACILITY AND IF IT IS REFERRED
TO THE WELLNESS COMMITTEE IT'S
MORE OR LESS. OF TOLERATE ARE AT
THIS POINT IS A PROTECTED. NOT
SURE OF THE ANSWER TO THAT.
SENATE ROTH- I'M ASKING I DON'T
KNOW THE ANSWER WELL. THERE ARE
PHYSICIANS THAT HAVE- BEHAVIORAL
ISSUES OR ADDICTION THAT INSTEAD
OF THEM BEING GO THROUGH. VIEW
THEY'RE SENT TO THE WELLNESS
COMMITTEE AND BAIT ARE AT THEIR-
PRIVILEGES CAN BE RESTRICTED BUT
IT'S DONE THROUGH THE WELLNESS
COMMITTEE. SO THE BOARD DOESN'T
LEARN OF IT BUT THE PHYSICIAN
HAS SERIOUS ISSUES THAT PUT THE
PUBLIC AT RISK. SO WHERE WHERE
THAT THIS IS A GAP. THAT SHOULD
BE ADDRESSED SO THAT THE BOARD
LEARNS OF PHYSICIANS THAT HAVE-
THESE CONDITIONS THAT. THERE HAS
TO BE MONITORING SO THIS IS MORE
I I'M I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT
VOLUNTARY REPORTING TO SOMETHING
LIKE AN EAP AND WHETHER THIS WAS
GOING TO DISCOURAGE PHYSICIANS
WHO HAVE. DRUG OR ALCOHOL
PROBLEMS- FROM GOING TO SEEK
HELP BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS
A REFERRAL FROM A PEER REVIEW
COMMITTEE TO A WELLNESS
COMMITTEE AND- I'M NOT SURE. HOW
THE CHAIN OF EVENTS HAPPEN BUT
WERE AWARE THAT THERE THAT WE'RE
MISSING A GROUP OF PHYSICIANS
THAT POSE. A SAFETY ISSUE FOR
CONSUMERS WELL YOU'LL JUST HAVE
TO HELP US. MAKE SURE THEY WERE
NOT- DISCOURAGING PHYSICIANS WHO
HAVE PROBLEMS FROM VOLUNTARY
SEEK VOLUNTARILY SEEKING HELP
AND WHEN THEY DO THEY GET
REPORTED TO YOU AND THEN BAD
THINGS HAPPEN I SUSPECT THAT'S
PROBABLY NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND IF IT'S A
PEER REVIEW SITUATION WHERE
SOMEONE ELSE'S. SOMEONE ELSE'S
NOTICED THE PROBLEM AND MADE A
REPORT AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE
DISCIPLINED OR IN IN LIEU OF
DISCIPLINE. THE WELLNESS
COMMITTEE IS- IS A SOLUTION
THAT'S SORT OF A DIFFERENT
SITUATION TO ME ANYWAY. COMES
CAN WE TALK IN THE ALSO NOT
SUBJECT BEFORE I JUMP. PLUS I
THINK WE CAN LEAVE IT THERE THAT
IS EXCEPT THAT IT. WE KNOW THAT
. BASILEA'S TRY TO AVOID FILING
IT- FIVE REPORTS. AND SO
THERE'S- WE SUSPECT THE
CREATIVITY INVOLVED IN THE S.
AND WE FEEL LIKE. SOMEHOW WE
NEED TO CLOSE THE LOOP ON IT-
BUT IT'S A DIFFICULT MORE FOR
THIS ISSUE AND SO THIS IS
ANOTHER AREA WHERE YOU WE
WELCOME YOUR INPUT ON HOW TO DO
THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME.
UNLESS OF OPINIONS. LET'S TALK
ABOUT THE EVIDENCE THREE
STANDARD- YOU KNOW I HAVE A
PERSONAL VIEW ON THIS BUT THAT
DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING HERE
BECAUSE THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE
EFFORT- I NOTICED. YOUR PROPOSAL
IS TO- GO TO A PREPONDERANCE OF
THE EVIDENCE- MY VIEW IS THAT
THAT IS A THAT IS WONDERFUL AND
SHOULD BE WE SHOULD MOVE IN THAT
DIRECTION WITH THE BUT WITH THE-
POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF A
REVOCATION OF LICENSE. AND MAYBE
A THE LENGTHY SUSPENSION. SO HOW
HOW WOULD THIS WORK YOUR
PROPOSAL OR EVEN. ONE MODIFIED
THE WAY I'VE SUGGESTED. I'D LIKE
OUR INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF POTENTIALLY TAKE THIS ONE-
JUST BECAUSE OF YOUR EXPERIENCE
WITH OTHER- MEDICAL BOARDS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT LARGELY
USE THE STANDARD WHERE WE ARE
WE'RE REALLY AN OUT LIAR HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. RIGHT AND THAT THAT
IS TRUE- FORTY THREE PLUS STATES
ACTUALLY DO HAVE THE
PERFORMANCES EVENTS AS THE
STANDARD AND IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT
LINE AND SOME STATES HAVE DUAL
STANDARDS FOR VARIOUS THINGS
THAT MUCH TO BE HONEST WITH YOU
AND THAT REPORTS AVAILABLE ON
THE FEDERATION OF STATE MEDICAL
BOARDS WEBSITE. WHICH WE CAN
PROVIDE THAT DATA TO YOU BUT
AGAIN IT GOES TO THE FACT THAT
IT IT CUTS THE TIME AND THE
INVESTIGATION EVEN THOUGH WE
DON'T HAVE TO- INCREASE IF WE
DON'T HAVE TO JUST- GO THROUGH
THE EXTRA LENGTH TO PROVE CLEAR
AND CONVINCING BEYOND A
REASONABLE DOUBT TO BRING THE
CASE- OTHERWISE WHAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN IS- THE CASE COULD BE
THROWN OUT OF. A DALE J. AND- IF
CAN HAVE A BAD OUTCOME THE
PATIENT REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO
SO. WITH THE PREPONDERANCE
EVIDENCE- IT BECOMES OUR MAKES
OUR JOBS EASIER NOW WE ARE ALL
AB WELCOME TO DISCUSS THAT
MATTER I KNOW YOU AND I HAD THAT
CONVERSATION AT THE AIRPORT ONE
TIME. PASSING BY YOU PROBABLY
DON'T REMEMBER THAT IS A SHORT
LIFE CERTAINLY APOLOGIZE WELL
THAT'S OKAY THAT'S OKAY I THINK
I THINK THEY START CALLING YOUR
BOARDING AT THAT TIME SO YOU HAD
TO RUSH OFF AND SO. ANYWAY BUT-
IT IS IT IS AND IT IS AN AREA I
THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS- MY
PROBLEM TO BE HONEST AND AGAIN
WE WANT SOME OF THIS. THIS
AFTERNOON BUT- YOU KNOW
PROPONENT OF THE EVIDENCE
ESSENTIALLY MEANS THAT THE-
SCALES TIP JUST A LITTLE BIT
JUST ENOUGH. AND I'M OKAY WITH
THAT ON. REPRIMANDS ON LESSER
FORMS OF DISCIPLINE BUT WE'RE
CERTAINLY WHERE YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT A REPLICATION. OF A
PHYSICIAN'S LICENSE TO PRACTICE
. A LICENSE THAT THE POSITION
SPENT A LOT OF TIME. WORKING TO
SECURE A LOT OF TIME. AND
REVOCATION. ESSENTIALLY MEANS OF
PHYSICIANS OUT OF BUSINESS.
UNLESS SOMEONE SOMEBODY
SOMEWHERE. ALLOWS A PHYSICIAN
BACK INTO THE- SANDBOX. AND IT
IT I JUST THINK. HAVING THE
SCALES THE EVIDENCE JUST A
LITTLE BIT WILL. HAVE A YEAR. IN
THAT SORT OF CIRCUMSTANCE
DOESN'T MAKE A LOT I MEAN DOES
IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FROM A
PRICES. STREAMLINING STANDPOINT
WE CAN MOVE A LOT OF CASES
THROUGH. BUT FOR THE POSITION
IT'S IMPACTED THAT WAY. I THINK
THE STANDARDS SHOULD BE HIGHER
AND I THINK THE BURDEN SHOULD BE
HIGHER. IT FOR PUTTING THE
POSITION OUT OF BUSINESS.
PRESUMABLY PERMANENTLY. RIGHT
SO. I'M NOT A LAWYER- BUT I JUST
HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR FOUR OF
OUR DISCUSSION I'M NOT ANY
NGUYEN YOU. WHEN DO YOU SET THE
STANDARD AT THE BEGINNING WHEN
WE FOLLOWING THE ACQUISITION SO
THAT'S BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING
IS OR THE INVESTIGATION STAGE
BECAUSE WE MIGHT START WITH THE
MINOR INFRACTION. BUT GOING
THROUGH THE INVESTIGATION
PROCESS WE FIND MORE SKELETONS
AND THAT BECOMES A HIGHER
STANDARD OF PROOF TO INTO FOR
REVOCATION CASE OR LESS SO IT
CAN GO BOTH WAYS. WHAT THE
PROCESS. WELL THIS THE STATE'S
EVIDENCE REACHED AT A REALLY
ONLY APPLIES WHEN YOU'RE IN
FRONT OF A NAIL J. RIGHT BUT I
MILLION CORD SO AT SO AT SOME
POINT YOU YOU INVESTIGATE YOUR
CASE TONIGHT TO PROVE THAT THE
PHYSICIAN DID ACSR DID WHY
BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE
TAKING DISCIPLINE. RIGHT ANYWAY
SO IF IT'S A METAL MEDICAL
NEGLIGENCE CASE WE'RE GONNA HAVE
TO HAVE YOUR EXPERT. ESTABLISHED
THAT THERE WAS MEDICAL
NEGLIGENCE SO THAT'S EXACTLY MY
POINT- THAT THAT THAT THAT WHEN
WE ARE TAKING THAT EVIDENCE TO
THAT A. L. J. WE WERE OPERATING
UNDER ONE STANDARD WHERE IT
SHOULD BE THE OTHER. AND WE TAKE
TO THE L. G. AND THE CASE IS
THROWN OUT. BUT I DON'T YOU
DECIDE BEFORE YOU GO TO THE A.
L. J. WHAT YOU'RE PURSUING
WHETHER YOU'RE PURSUING A
REVOCATION- YOU'RE PURSUING A
SUSPENSION. OR DO YOU TREAT
EVERY CASE IS A REVOCATION CASE
REGARDLESS OF WHAT. THAT IS THAT
MAKES SENSE I'M I DON'T EAT
EVERY CASES AT THE ACCUSATIONS
FILED TO TREAT EVERY CASE AS A
POTENTIAL REVOCATION CASE RIGHT.
BECAUSE TO AS DIRECTOR FOR UC'S
POINT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE
MIGHT FIND DURING THAT
INVESTIGATORY PROCESS RIGHT- AND
IN SOME CASES IT CAN. YELL
UNCOVER THINGS THAT ARE-
EGREGIOUS WHERE WE HAD A RECORDS
VIOLATION TO BEGIN WITH RIGHT-
SO IT'S A IT'S A- PROCESS ISSUE
IT'S NOT CLEAR HOW WE WOULD.
APPLY THAT. IN PRACTICE AND I
THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH US
LOOKING INTO THOSE OTHER STATES
THAT HAVE DIFFERENCES I KNOW AT
LEAST ONE STATE HAS IT. THE
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT CONTACT
CONTACTS WITH THERE'S DIFFERENT
STANDARDS- AND THAT'S WHAT I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING
TO ADD ON THAT POINT. YES- SERA
. FOR EXAMPLE. THERE MAY BE AS A
SENSE. IT IN A QUALITY OF CARE
CASE THAT. UNDER THESE FACTS
THIS POSITION IS LIKELY TO GET.
PROBATION BUT- IF THAT POSITION
AT HEARING SAYS THAT. THEY
DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE
THEIR PRACTICE. AND THEY'RE
GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT
ASKS THAT. BOB IS A ARE
VIOLATION OF THE MEDICAL
PRACTICE ACT. THEN THAT
PHYSICIAN IS NOT SUITABLE FOR
REHABILITATION. THAT POSITION.
SHOULD BE REVOKED UNDER THOSE
CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE- THEY- ARE
. ARCH ARE TOWING THE MEASURE A
LOT AND THE BOARD THAT. THEY'RE
NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE PRACTICE
RIGHT UNDERSTOOD I UNDERSTAND
THAT I AGREE WITH YOU. BUT WHEN
YOU. WHEN YOU INVESTIGATE TO
CLEAR AND CONVINCING AS OPPOSED
TO PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE
DOES THAT MEAN YOU GET THREE
EXPERTS ARE FOR AS OPPOSED TO
ONE I MEAN YOU STILL BUILD YOUR
CASE YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT THE
PHYSICIAN ENGAGED IN THE MEDICAL
NEGLIGENCE. SO I DON'T REALLY
UNDER THE EVIDENTIARY STANDARD
TO ME IS A IS A LAW ISSUES THAT
THAT IS APPLIED AT THE TIME THAT
THE CASES JUDGED BY THE IN THIS
CASE THE ALJ IN THE- L. J. SAYS
WELL. YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK
THAT THE- EXPERT. THE PINION WAS
PERSUASIVE AND I'M NOT GOING TO
REVOKE THE PHYSICIAN'S MINIMUM
MAKING SENSE I MEAN IT'S LIKE
THE DA YEAH I'VE EVER BEEN A
INDEX CIVILS CIVIL WORLD I'VE
NEVER DONE CRIMINAL WORK BUT
IT'S LIKE THE D. EIGHT CHARGING
EVERY CASE AND INVESTIGATING IT
AS A- AS A- YOU KNOW FIFTY TO
LIFE. BARBARA I'M PURSUING EVERY
CASE IS A FIFTY FIFTY YEAR TO
LIFE IN PRISON CASE WHEN. IT'S
MY MAKING SENSE I THINK THAT
THAT M. YOUR MAKING SENSE
BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW
YOU CAN IMPROVE YOUR CASE AND
THEN THE ONLY QUESTION THERE IS
HAVE YOU PROVE YOUR CASE. AND IS
IT ARE YOU PROVING YOUR CASE BY
JUST A LITTLE BIT- OF YOU PROVE
YOUR CASE BY A LOT CLEAR AND
CONVINCING WHEN YOU'RE GOING FOR
REVOCATION. SO I GUESS TO
ADDRESS THAT THE QUESTION I
THINK YOU'RE ASKING. WHICH IS I
MEAN WHAT WOULD THIS REALLY
RESULTS AND- FASTER PROCESS SEES
IN SOME SORT OF- YEAH. THE
BENEFITS ARE PROCESS A COUPLE OF
OBSERVATIONS ONE WE DO HEAR
FROM- CONSUMER ADVOCATES THAT
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S
IMPORTANT TO THEM AND I THINK
ONE THING THAT WE HEAR IN
PARTICULAR IS. WHY IS CALIFORNIA
OUT OF STEP WITH ALL THE OTHER
JURISDICTIONS THEY DO LOOK AT
OUR DISCIPLINARY RATES WITH A
LOOK AT THE CASES THEY LOOK AT
OUR TIME LINES AND THEY SAY.
THOSE SEEM TO BE LONGER THAN
OTHER JURISDICTIONS OKAY HERE'S
HERE'S AN AREA OF OPPORTUNITY
THE STANDARD SEEMS TO BE
DIFFERENT AND EVERY OTHER
JURISDICTION DOES IT ANOTHER WAY
WHY ARE WE- OUT OF STEP HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. AND I DON'T THINK
THAT WE HAVE THE DATA TO SHOW
YOU WHAT WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK
LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.
BUT I KNOW THAT WE THINK AND WE
BELIEVE. THAT OUR STANDARD IS
MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT MORE
TIME CONSUMING MORE EXPENSIVE TO
PROSECUTE THESE CASES THAT IT
WOULD BE IF WE HAD THE STANDARD
THAT VIRTUALLY EVERY OTHER. AT
JURISDICTION ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
HAS SO AGAIN WE DON'T WE DON'T
HAVE THE DATA TO SHOW YOU WHAT
IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ON THE
OTHER SIDE- BUT WE DO KNOW THIS
IS IMPORTANT AGAIN TO THE
ADVOCATE COMMUNITY AND TO
OTHERS- THERE ARE LOTS OF. I
GUESS POINTS IN THIS PROCESS.
THAT WE TALKED ABOUT MEDICAL
INSPECTION AUTHORITY WE'VE
TALKED ABOUT THE SUBPOENA
PROCESS ALL THESE OTHER THINGS
WHERE THERE CAN BE- ROAD BLOCKS
PUT IN PLACE. AND THIS IS AN
AREA WHERE WE THINK WE CAN MAKE
A MEANINGFUL. DIFFERENCE BUT THE
PROOF OF THAT DIFFERENCE IS
GOING TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
IT. RIGHT I MEAN I IT'S
DANGEROUS FOR ME TO THINK OUT
LOUD BECAUSE IT SHOWS I DON'T
THINK. BUT BUT THE FOR ME. THE
IT SET THE ALJ LEVEL. AND YOU
DON'T TAKE THAT MANY CASES. TO
AN ALJ. THANK NEW YEAR'S
STATISTICS. I'M UP TO THAT POINT
YOU MAKE THE DECISIONS. WELL ME
IS DECIDED. CASES OR NOT YOU
DECIDE TO TAKE THE CASE TO
TRIAL. WE'RE NOT TAKING THE CASE
TO TRIAL. BUT THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE HAS TO BE
CONVINCED THAT THERE'S
SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. TO MEET
THAT BURDEN OF CLEAR AND
CONVINCING EVIDENCE. AND SO. AN
ACCUSATION MAY NOT BE FILED. IF
AT THIS POINT. IT'S MORE LIKELY
THAN NOT THAT A VIOLATION
OCCURRED BUT IT DOESN'T MEET.
CLEAR CONVINCING EVIDENCE
STANDARD. AND SO IT IS MISS
LAWSON SAID THAT FOR EXAMPLE
ARIZONA- IT HAS. A CLEAR
CONVINCING EVIDENCE STANDARD
EXCEPT FOR SEXUAL MISCONDUCT
CASES WHICH IS. GREEN
PREPONDERANCE- RIGHT BECAUSE
IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO PROVE
THOSE CASES BY A CLEAR
CONVINCING EVIDENCE STANDARD
BECAUSE- THERE MAY BE JUST TWO
PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AT THE TIME
AND A CURSE. SO THAT'S- THE IT
WOULD BE VALUABLE ESPECIALLY IN
THOSE TYPES OF CASES. BUT AGAIN
THE END RESULT. IF IT'S PROVEN
WOULD BE REPLICATION. WELL I
DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS IS AN
INTERESTING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO DECIDE IF YOU
MADE A RECOMMENDATION AND WE
NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AND WE'LL
SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE. HAS TO
SAY ABOUT THIS- I'M NOT GOING TO
GO OVER ALL OF THESE MAYBE YOU
COULD ADDRESS THE ENFORCEMENT
MONITORS- IN A LITTLE BIT MORE
DETAIL THE ENFORCEMENT MONITORS
A SUGGESTION WITH RESPECT TO
THE- MEDICAL EXPERT. SITUATION
SHORTAGE AND THE- INVESTIGATOR
WORKFORCE STAFFING ISSUE THESE
ARE ON PAGE FORTY NINE FIFTY
FIFTY ONE OF OUR- BACKGROUND.
RIGHT OR MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN
A POSITION ON THE BOARD HASN'T
TAKEN IT HAS NOT TAKEN A
POSITION- ON ANY OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS AS OF YET. AGAIN
WE RECEIVED IT- RIGHT BEFORE YOU
RECEIVED AT THE BOARD SO- I
BELIEVE THAT WE WILL- A COUPLE
OF THINGS ONE THE FOURSOME
UNDERSCORING TO ISSUE A FINAL
REPORT- AT SOME POINT I BELIEVE
BY JULY FIRST- IF I'M NOT
MISTAKEN. AND SO- AGAIN THERE
MAY BE SOME MODIFICATIONS ARE
REFINEMENTS- OR ADDITIONS-
THEY'RE HELPFUL TO US AND SO I
THINK THAT SOMETHING WE PROBABLY
WILL BE TAKING UP EITHER AT OR
MAY BE BOARD MEETING OR AT OUR-
AUGUST MEETING. BUT THE EXPERT
ISSUES NOT NEW TO THE DISCUSSION
CORRECT CORRECT THAT IS CORRECT
AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATION IN
THERE AND ACTUALLY MORE THAN
RECOMMENDATIONS. ONE THING THEY
POINTED OUT THE RECENT
DEVELOPMENT AND RECRUITING MORE
EXPORTS AND WITH THAT MORE
EFFORTS AS STAFFERS TO REACH OUT
TO- MEDICAL COMMUNITY AND- THE
NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS FOR
MEDICAL EXPERTS HAVE INCREASED.
SO THAT THAT WAS AND NOTED THAT
. THE REPORT POINTS OUT. YEAH
BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HIGHER PAY
FOR THE MEDICAL EXPERTS SO WE
CAN RECRUIT- MORE AND MORE- I
WON SAID QUALITY EXPERTS BUT DID
THEY EXPECT THAT THAT OUR
CALIBER- THAT CAN WITH. STAND UP
TO THE DEFENDANT'S EXPLORED THAT
THAT THAT ARE HIGHLY PAID WELL
IN TERMS OF YOUR FEE INCREASE
THEN HAVE YOU BUILT IN SOME OF
THESE EXTRA COSTS THAT PEOPLE
ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU TAKE
ON INTO THE INCREASE THE RESULT
OF BUDGET- IT HELPED US WITH
THE- THE ANALYSIS TO COME UP
WITH A THIRTEEN FIFTY AMOUNT AND
THAT IS ONE OF THE CONSIDERATION
ON A HIGHER EXPERT PAY. SIR HAVE
I MISSED ANYTHING. IN TERMS OF
ASKING YOU QUESTIONS. WHICH
MEANS IT TRANSLATES SAID
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY. I
DON'T THINK SO I WOULD
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
HERE AND HAVE THIS CONSTRUCTIVE
CONVERSATION WITH ALL OF YOU
WELL I APPRECIATE YOU COMING ALL
OF YOU AND I DO LOOK FORWARD TO
THE CONTINUED CONVERSATION
BECAUSE I. I MEANT IT WHEN I
SAID IT THAT THIS IS A
COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND IT SOME
OF THESE ISSUES ARE VERY VERY
DIFFICULT ISSUES AND- OF COURSE
WE HAVE YET TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE
THE OTHER SIDE OF THESE ISSUES
AND- WILL BE HEARING ABOUT THEM
I'M SURE PRETTY SOON AND- WILL
CONTINUE TO HEAR. FROM THEM AND
FROM YOU AS WE MOVE MOVE FORWARD
TOWARD HOPEFULLY THE SUCCESSFUL
RESOLUTION OF THIS SUNSET
PROCESS AND- OF SUNSET BILL FOR
THE MEDICAL BOARD. FEDERAL
OFFICIALS REPEAT- WE ARE LISTING
TO THE ADVOCATES RELEASING TO
THE PUBLIC. WE'RE MAKING
ADJUSTMENTS TO DO A BETTER JOB
WE ARE DOING THIS. AND I WOULD
REPEAT AGAIN- THE MEDICAL BOARD
DOES NOT PROTECT DOCTORS TO
PROTECT THE PUBLIC. AND THE
MEDICAL BOARD. REALLY DOES NOT.
GIVE. WE LISTEN TO HEAR WHAT
ORGANIZED MEDICINE SAYS. BUT
WE'RE INDEPENDENT THINKERS. WE
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU
WILL DO IT SOME. SOMETIMES
GOVERNMENT SERVICES THE THANKS
THANKLESS THEM. EFFORT AND- YOU
KNOW WE SEE THAT EVERY DAY IN
THESE JOBS SO WE APPRECIATE YOU
. OKAY SO WE WILL- TAKE
QUESTIONS SERVE RATHER TESTIMONY
FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NOW.
ABOUT THE MEDICAL BOARD OF
CALIFORNIA WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN
WITH WITNESSES. IN ROOM TWENTY
ONE HUNDRED WILL START WITH- T.
J. WATKINS OF MR WATKINS IS HERE
. AND IF NOT ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN ROOM TWENTY ONE HUNDRED WHO
WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT
ABOUT THE MEDICAL BOARD OF
CALIFORNIA. I SEE MISTER WATKINS
COMING UP. WHAT IS YOUR FIRST UP
I'M GOING TO. GIVE YOU UP FOR
FIVE MINUTES SO TRY TO I'LL ALSO
BE THROUGH IT WELL THANK YOU SO
MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON HONORABLE
MEMBERS AND THANK YOU TO THE
CHAIR FOR ALLOWING ME A FEW
EXTRA MINUTES TO SPEAK. MY NAME
IS T. AS A WALK INS AND I'M A
CALLING PUBLIC MEMBA ON THE
MEDICAL BOARD APPOINTED BY THE
SENATE COMMITTEE BUT MORE
IMPORTANT. I'M ALSO
WHISTLEBLOWER. AND IS IMPORTANCE
ABOUT THAT WHISTLE BLOWER
BECAUSE- I'VE SEEN SOME THINGS
THAT I'VE REPORTED. FIRST I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TODAY FOR
ME TO KLIA. THAT IT COULD ABOUT
MY OWN VIEWS ON DOCTORS. WE ARE
COME FROM INSIDE AFRICA. DOCTORS
ORDER VIA. I GREW UP IN A
CULTURE THAT DOES NOTHING BUT
ABSOLUTE RESPECT AND ADMIRATION
FOR DOCTORS. WELL MORE THAN
SCIENTISTS TO US ALL- HEALERS.
AND IN AMERICA MY EXPERIENCE
WITH KNOWING MANY DOCTORS AS
BEING THE DIESEL EXTREMELY
HARDWORKING FOLKS. SMALL
DEDICATED TO THE PROFESSION AND
SACRIFICE A LOT OF THE TIME TO
PROTECT AND SERVE THE BASINS.
BUT LIKE ALL PROFESSIONS THIS
SOME THERE'S ALWAYS SOME BAD
APPLES IN THE INTO THE SPOT. AND
IN MEDICINE WHEN YOU HAVE A
DANGEROUS DR. IT CAN KILL INJURE
AND MAIM PEOPLE. I'M HERE TODAY
SOLELY TODAY ON MY OWN ACCORD
BECAUSE THE MEDICAL BOARD OF
CALIFORNIA. IS STOCK. AND IT'S
STUCK IN A PATTERN OF PROTECTING
VERY DANGEROUS DOCTORS. THAT IS
PRIMARILY DUE TO AN IMPLICIT
BIAS. THAT CREATED A DOCTOR
PROTECTION CULTURE. THAT NO
MATTER WHAT WE REALLY TRIED TO
IMPLEMENT WILL ALWAYS BE THE ON
THE CONTENT THAT WASHES THE
STUFF OF ANY GOOD IDEAS AWAY. IT
WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE- SENATE
THE WAVELL CUEVAS HIM POINTED TO
A TOUCH TO COME WITH LIKE
FIFTEEN SECONDS YOU CAN GO INTO
ANY ROOM. ENVIRONMENT ON THE
INTERNET AND GET OLDEST
NEWSPAPER STORIES. I DON'T WANT
TO BOTHER YOU WITH THAT WE ALL
KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW THE MEDICAL
BOARD IS FINDING. THE ALL THE
FACTS. THE FACTS OF THE MEDICAL
BOARD RIGHT NOW STANDS AT THIS
AND I'VE DONE THIS THAT DOES THE
ARE SEATED ON THE NEWS AND
EVERYWHERE ELSE. THE EMBASSY
RECEIVES AROUND TEN THOUSAND
COMPLAINTS A YEAR. WITH THIS
MESS 96% OF THOSE CASES.
REMAINING CASES WE SPLIT BETWEEN
PUBLIC GOOD FOR MONTHS THIS OF
PROBATION WITH DISCIPLINE SEVEN
THIS EDC BUT HERE'S THE
INTERESTING THING. WE ONLY
REVOKE POINT 5% OFF THE OFFICE
LICENSE. WE ALSO DO NOT APPLY
THE DISCIPLINARY GUIDELINES
ALREADY GO TO NOW AT THE MEDICAL
BOARD IS WHEN WE- DISCIPLINE THE
DOCTOR WITH PROBATION WE DEVIATE
FROM THE GUIDELINES. 85% OF THE
TIME THAT PROBATION OF THE
GUIDELINES IS SUPPOSEDLY THE
PRIMARY DETERRENT FROM KEEPING
DOCTORS FROM REPEATING THE
OFFENCE. BUT IT'S STEP AWAY FROM
THAT THAT IS ALL STATISTICS NOW
WE'RE GOING TO COME INTO THE
ACTUAL QUALITATIVE WHAT ALL OF
THE EXPERIENCE I WANT TO GIVE
YOU AN INSIDE VIEW ON WHAT
HAPPENS IN THE GLOBAL. WHEN
PATIENTS OR FAMILY OF PATIENTS.
GO INTO A MEDICAL INTO THE
MEDICAL BOARD WHAT HAPPENS IS.
THEY SEE ALL THEIR RIGHTS.
THAT'S RIGHT THIS NEVER RETURNED
. THE BOARD DO NOT LEGALLY HAVE
TO GO AND SPEAK TO THAT
COMPLAINANT EVER. SO LIAISON
COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE IS
NOT GOING TO REALLY AFFORD THEM
RIGHT. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO
RIGHT NOW THE MEDICAL BOARD
DON'T EVEN APPLY. AND IMPLEMENT
THE OWNED HOTELS. WHAT'S MORE
IMPORTANT IS THE THERE'S NO
APPEALS PROCESS. DAY IS
ABSOLUTELY. AND BECAUSE THERE'S
NO APPEALS PROCESS AND I HEARD
THE PANEL TALK ABOUT. YOU KNOW
BRINGING ABOUT THE VICTIM
STATEMENT. WHY MUST WE ARE THE
VICTIM STATEMENT AT THE
BEGINNING IS ALREADY IGNORED
THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. WE ALSO
NEVER REALLY ACCEPT EVIDENCE
FROM THE PATIENT WITH AIDS
MEDICAL RECORDS OR OTHERWISE WE
ONLY ACCEPT EVIDENCE FROM
DOCTORS. AND THROUGH SUBPOENAS.
SO I WANT TO JUST RUN THROUGH
THIS BECAUSE THE MOST IMPORTANT
THING IS. THAT THE DEPUTY
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE THE
ONLY THING THAT I AS A BOARD
MEMBER GET. WHEN I A JUDICATA
CASE IS AN INTERPRETATION OF AN
EXPERT REPORT AN INTERPRETATION
OF AN INVESTIGATION REPORT I DO
NOT GET TO VERIFY WHAT THEY
SAYING IS THE TRUTH ACCURATE
THOUGH ANYONE. THIS THEN IN THE
LAST MONTH I HAVE FOUND I
ACTUALLY HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO
THAT DOCUMENTATION OFF THAT THIS
BOARD AND MY STEAM COLLEAGUES
VIA DENIED ME ACCESS TO THAT
INFORMATION AND THEY STILL DO.
BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE
WE WANT THIS HEIGHT. IS THE
FOLLOWING THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY
GENERAL PROVIDES US A MINIMAL.
AND I'LL TAKE ONE MOMENT
PROVIDES US SOME A MEMO AND
INDEED MEMEL. DALY CONTINUE. TO
PROVIDE MISINFORMATION. THEY
BURY THE FACT. AND FULL THE MEMO
WITH TOXIC FULLER TO INFLUENCE
THE BOARD MEMBERS. AND SO WE
BOTH WITH THEM 99% OF THE TIME.
ANY CLOSING. THE QUESTION IS
WHERE DO I GO. WAIT WHILE
CONSUMERS IN CALIFORNIA GO. THE
MEDICAL BOARD IS FAILING THEM
EVERY ON EVERY ON EVERY METRIC
WE ARE BEING THEY ARE BEING FELT
ANYONE THAT THAT SPOKE IT DID
THEY THAT WANT TO SEE THE
OUTCOME OF CASES. GOES TO GO SEE
THE MEDIA COVERAGE AND THEN GO
LOOK AT WHAT THE OUTCOME IS THE
OUTCOME IS A DIABETIC INFLUENCE
OF ALL PROCESSES. SO RECENTES
THREE FOR ME SPECIFICALLY YEAH
I'VE GOT A LINE UP BEHIND YOU
TEACH US THAT'S ALL GOOD AS THEM
PUT MY CONFIDENCE THAT THIS WILL
EVER GET TO RESOLVE. AND I'M NOT
A NEGATIVE PERSON BUT I'VE SEEN
THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE SPEAK
ABOUT HAVE FALLEN ON DEAF EARS
ALL IN FTS OF LUCENT'S NO
COMMONSENSE SOLUTIONS ARE
PROVIDED A FOURTEEN PLAYED
FOURTEEN POINT PLANNED AND I
COLLABORATED WITH ALL THE PEOPLE
TO FIND THE BEST WAY FORWARD.
I'M ASKING. THIS- PANEL THIS
COMMITTEE AND ALSO THE
GOVERNMENT TO INTERVENE BECAUSE
WE ARE NOT PROTECTING THE
PUBLIC. WE ARE PROTECTING THE
DOCTORS. AND I HOPE AND I AM NOT
AFRAID TO DO IT US LOTS OF
PRAYING BECAUSE- I GENUINELY
DON'T WANT TO SEE. ANY PERSON.
NON ONE MORE PERSON. LET ALONE
ANYBODY'S FAMILY END UP IN THE
HEADLINES REPORTING A CASE TO
THE MEDICAL BOARD AND THEN END
UP WITH THE PUBLIC COULD
IMPLEMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME THANK YOU SIR. NEXT PLEASE
. GOOD EVENING SEVERAL COUNCIL
MASON MY NAME IS LEAH JONES AND
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF A VOICE
FOR CHOICE ADVOCACY WE DO SO
APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION TO
CREATE A COMPLAINT LIAISON UNIT
SO THAT MEDICAL ABUSE VICTIMS
HAVE ASSISTANCE IN NAVIGATING.
THE MEDICAL BOARD'S COMPLAINT
PROCESS YEAH WE DO NOT FILL THIS
GOES FAR ENOUGH IN GIVING THESE
VICTIMS A VOICE DURING THIS
PROCESS. CURRENTLY MEDICAL ABUSE
VICTIMS HAVE NO LEGAL RIGHT TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE MEDICAL
BOARD'S DISCIPLINARY PROCESS
WHEN A COMPLAINT IS FILED BY A
VICTIM PATIENT. OR THEIR FAMILY
AGAINST THE DOCTOR THROUGH THE
MEDICAL BOARD OF CALIFORNIA THE
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS
INVESTIGATES TO DETERMINE IF
THERE IS A LEGITIMATE CLAIM TO
MOVE FORWARD. IF THE COMPLAINT
IS THE COMPLAINT IS NOT
CONSIDERED LEGITIMATE THE DCA
NEITHER NOTIFIES THE VICTIM NOR
ALLOWS AN APPEAL FOR
RECONSIDERATION. IF THE CLAIM IS
CONSIDERED LEGITIMATE AN
ACCUSATION IS FILED AND MEDICAL
BOARD ATTORNEYS COMPILE THE CASE
AND TAKE IT BEFORE AN
ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE. WHO HEARS
ARGUMENTS FROM THE STATE
LICENSED PHYSICIAN NAMED ON THE
COMPLAINT EXPERT WITNESSES AND
COUNSEL REPRESENTING THE MEDICAL
BOARD THEY NEVER HEAR FROM THE
VICTIM. WHETHER THE COMPLAINT
MOVES FORWARD OR NOT DURING THE
WHOLE PROCESS NEITHER THE DCA
NOR THE MEDICAL BOARD NOR THE
JUDGE COMMUNICATES DIRECTLY TO
OUR INTERVIEWS THE VICTIM. THE
ONLY TIME THE VICTIM CAN SHARE
INFORMATION IS ON THE INITIAL
COMPLAINT FORM SUBMISSION. AT
THE VERY START OF THIS PROCESS
NO FOLLOW UP STATEMENTS OR
REBUTTALS TO THE ACCUSED DR
STATEMENTS ARE ALLOWED. NEITHER
THE VICTIM NOR ANY CORROBORATING
WITNESSES ARE ALLOWED TO APPEAR
OR GIVE EVIDENCE AT MEDICAL
BOARD PANEL HEARINGS OR THE
OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE
HEARINGS. THE VICTIM HAS NO
RIGHT TO ACCESS THEIR QUEUES DR
STATEMENTS NO RECEIVE COPIES OF
THEIR OWN MEDICAL RECORDS.
PROVIDED BY THE DOCTOR DURING
THE INVESTIGATION ON MANY
OCCASIONS. THE MEDICAL BOARD
REACHES A DISCIPLINE THEIR VERY
SUBTLE AGREE. WITH THE PHYSICIAN
PRIOR TO THE HEARING WELL THIS
SAVES THE MEDICAL BOARD TIME AND
MONEY THE VICTIM HAS NO INPUT.
NO ACCESS TO DISAGREE WITH OR
APPEAL THIS DECISION. THEY CUES
POSITION HIRES A LAWYER AND
EXPERTS TO REPRESENT THEM THE
MEDICAL BOARD LAWYERS ARE
SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE VICTIM
BUT HOW CAN THEY IF THEY NEVER
INTERVIEWED THEM NEVER SPEAK TO
THEM AND THE VICTIM HAS NO SAY
IN THEIR OWN CASE. THE VICTIM
MUST BE GIVEN A CHOICE. MUST BE
GIVEN A VOICE SORRY DURING THE
MEDICAL BOARD COMPLAINT PROCESS.
OF VOICE WERE TWICE ADVOCACY
RESPECT RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU
TO DO MORE IN THE SUNSET REVIEW
TO PUT IN PLACE THE ABILITY FOR
A VICTIM TO BE TRULY REPRESENTED
AS A CLIENT AND A LAWSUIT. AND
BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR VOICE
HEARD THROUGHOUT THEIR OWN
COMPLAINT PROCESS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT
PLEASE. GOOD EVENING I THINK
AKKERMAN BOULDER WILL BE SOON
VERY SOON WE'RE GOING TO
PROBABLY HAVE TO. SHORTEN JUST A
LITTLE BIT BUT PLEASE PROCEED
I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF- I MEAN THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CONSUMER
WATCHDOG- AND WE APPRECIATE THE
TIME AND THOUGHT YOU PUT INTO
THIS AND- THE FACT THAT THE
BOARD- SAYS IT'S LISTENING I ONE
OF FLAG A FEW THINGS. THE NUMBER
ONE COMPLAINT THAT WE HEAR FROM
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO'VE
COMPLAINED TO THE BOARD ABOUT
BEING HARMED OR LOSING A LOVED
ONE. IS THAT THEIR COMPLAINT WAS
CLOSED WITHOUT AN INTERVIEW AND
I WANT TO FLAG THAT THIS
COMPLAINANT LIAISON UNIT WHICH
WE SUPPORT. IS MISSING TWO
CRITICAL FACTORS NUMBER ONE
STATUTORY AUTHORITY IT NEEDS TO
BE IN THE LAW- NOT JUST THAT
THIS CURRENT BOARD WANTS TO
CREATE THAT UNIT AND THE NEXT
ONE MIGHT CHANGE THEIR MIND.
NUMBER TWO THAT IS MISSING. THE
MANDATORY INTERVIEW WITH A
FAMILY WHO FILES A COMPLAINT.
BEFORE THE COMPLAINT IS CLOSE
WITH THE TRIAGE UNIT. THAT'S NOT
THERE AND IT NEEDS TO BE
INCLUDED- NUMBER TWO SENATOR
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS MENTION. OF
SOME OF THE- RECENT STORIES THAT
ARE IN THE NEWS. AND THE SECOND
COMPLAINT WE HEAR MOST IS THAT.
PATIENTS GO INTO A DOCTOR ARE
HARMED LOSE A LOVED ONE LOSE A
LOVED ONE AT THE HANDS OF A
DOCTOR. AND HAD NO IDEA THAT THE
DOCTOR WAS CURRENTLY UNDER
INVESTIGATION OR IN FACT WAS
ALREADY ON PROBATION. FOR
CAUSING HARM OR DEATH TO ANOTHER
PATIENT. THIS LEGISLATURE PASSED
A LAW THAT REQUIRED DISCLOSURE
OF SOME INSTANCES. OF PROBATION
INCLUDING SEXUAL MISCONDUCT THE
LAW NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED TO
INCLUDE DISCLOSURE OF CURRENT
PROBATION FOR SERIOUS HARM. TO A
PATIENT AND I WILL JUST ADD ON
THAT WE FULLY SUPPORT THE-
FUNDING INCREASE. A PUBLIC BOARD
MEMBER MAJORITY TO SHIFT THE
CULTURE AT THE BOARD- AND OF
THE- A CHANGE. IN THE CURRENT
SPLIT RIGHT NOW THAT IS
CRIPPLING INVESTIGATORS AND
ATTORNEYS WHO NEVER SPEAK TO
EACH OTHER UNTIL THE
INVESTIGATION IS HANDING OUT
HANDED OFF. THOSE TWO OFFICES
THOSE TWO FUNCTIONS. NEED TO BE
IN THE SAME HOUSE THANK. THE YOU
NEXT PLEASE. GOOD EVENING CHAIR-
AND STAFF. REBEKAH MARQUEZ WITH
THE CONSUMER PROTECTION POLICY
CENTER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SAN
DIEGO SCHOOL OF LAW. FOR OVER
FORTY YEARS WE HAVE STUDIED
OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING AND
MONITOR CALIFORNIA AGENCIES
REGULATE BUSINESS PROFESSIONS
AND TRADES. I'M FIRST WE SUPPORT
THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION OF A
FEE INCREASE THE WORD IS MORE
THAN JUSTIFIED ITS NEED FOR
ADDITIONAL FUNDS FUNDS WHICH ARE
CRITICAL TO ENHANCING THE
ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. SO THAT IT
MAY ACHIEVE THEIR PARAMOUNT
PRIORITY OF PUBLIC PROTECTION.
IN RESPONSE TO THE RECENT
ENFORCEMENT MONITORS RECENT
PULMONARY REPORT WE RECOMMEND
THAT THE INVESTIGATORS CURRENTLY
HOUSED AT DCA MOVED TO THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. AS
ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IN TWO
THOUSAND AND FOUR SO THAT ALL
THE TEAM MEMBERS CAN WORK
TOGETHER AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS
POSSIBLE TO MAINTAIN CONSUMER
PROTECTION. AT A MINIMUM THE
LEGISLATURE SHOULD CONSIDER
REVERTING TO THE SYSTEM IN WHICH
THE INVESTIGATORS AND ARE
EMPLOYED BY THE BOARD. AND THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL ASSIGNS A
DEPUTY AND DISTRICT OFFICE TO
WORKING EACH AND B. C. FIELD
OFFICE TO PROVIDE LEGAL
ASSISTANCE AND GUIDANCE TO THE
INVESTIGATORS. AS WAS POINTED
OUT IN THE COMMITTEES BACKGROUND
DOCUMENT THE INTENT AND
STRUCTURE OF THE VERTICAL
ENFORCEMENT METHOD WAS NEVER
FULLY IMPLEMENTED. I'M IS CASES
WERE CONDUCTED WITH THE HANDOFF
METHOD THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THE
V. MODEL WAS TO ELIMINATE THIS
AND EFFECTIVE MATH THAT. WE
DON'T SUGGESTED V. E. WILL SOLVE
ALL THE CRITICISMS OF THE BOARD
HOWEVER IT WILL IMPROVE
EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS
ARISING FROM BETTER
COMMUNICATION AND COLLABORATION.
AND THIS IS DEMONSTRATED EVERY
DAY AND COMPLEX WHITE COLLAR
PROSECUTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
FINALLY SEE PPC SUPPORTS THE
BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION TO GIVE
THE PUBLIC AN OPPOSITION IS THE
MAJORITY OF THE BOARD. THIS IS A
RECOMMENDATION FOR WHICH WE'VE
BEEN ADVOCATING FOR DECADES AS
IT STANDS BOARDS WITH MAJORITY
OF LICENSEE MEMBERS LIKE NBC.
ARE AT SIGNIFICANT RISK OF
EXPOSURE TO AN ANTI TRUST
LAWSUIT AND THE TROUBLE DAMAGES
THAT WOULD RESULT CHANGING THE
BOARD'S COMPOSITION TO A PUBLIC
MEMBER MAJORITY. IS NOT ONLY THE
RIGHT THING TO DO FOR PUBLIC
PROTECTION BUT WILL IT WILL
DECREASE THE BOARD'S EXPOSURE TO
LAWSUITS THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME. TO THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE.
HI MY NAME IS FRANCISCO- I'M A
SECOND YEAR PSYCHIATRY RESIDENT
L. A. COUNTY U. S. C. AND A
MEMBER OF S. C. A. U. C. A. R.
THE COMMITTEE FOR INTERNS AND
RESIDENTS- THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS
BODY. I'M HERE TODAY TO ADVOCATE
FOR THE ELIMINATION OF THE POST
GRADUATE TRAINING LICENSE AND
ALSO THE ELIMINATION OF THE
MENTAL HEALTH QUESTION FROM THE
PNS LICENSE. REGARDING THE PTL.
THE MEDICAL BOARD CANNOT KEEP UP
WITH THE NUMBER OF PTL AND PNS
APPLICATIONS CAUSING DELAYS IN
LICENSING TIMELINES. RESIDENT
POSITIONS AND PATIENTS SUFFER
BECAUSE THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE
THEIR LICENCES BY THE DEADLINE
GET PULLED FROM SHIFTS IN
PATIENT- APPOINTMENTS GET CANCEL
EVEN THOUGH. ALL THE PAPERWORK
BEEN FILED THERE JUST WAITING
FOR IT TO BE PROCESSED- PATEL
CAUSES INEFFICIENCIES IN THE
MEDICAL SYSTEM. I'M RESIDENT
POSITIONS WHO ARE PRACTICING
UNDER THE PTL CAN'T DO SOME
BASIC TASKS OF THEIR JOB LIKE
SIGNING BIRTH CERTIFICATES ARE
SIGNING DEATH CERTIFICATES ARE
DOING DISABILITY DOCUMENTATION-
AND THEN REGARDING THE MENTAL
HEALTH QUESTION IT IS OUR STANCE
OF THE QUESTIONS PRESENCES IS
STIGMATIZING. AND PREVENTS.
RESIDENTS FROM SEEKING MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT- AND RESIDENTS
ARE ALREADY KIND OF VULNERABLE
TO ANXIETY DEPRESSION HAVE A
HIGHER RATE OF SUICIDE X.
CETERA- ONE RESIDENT UCLA
REPORTED THAT THAT- WHEN. WHEN
SHE WAS A MEDICAL STUDENT AND
ATTENDING SUGGESTED THAT IF SHE
WERE TO EVER RECEIVE MENTAL
HEALTH CARE. TO CONSIDER USING A
PSEUDONYM BECAUSE HER COLLEAGUE
WAS SOON TERMINATED AFTER MENTAL
INFORMATION MENTAL HEALTH
INFORMATION BECAME PUBLIC. AND
THAT POSITIONAL TO MILLIE
COMMITTED SUICIDE- AS A
PSYCHIATRIST WHO CARE DEEPLY
ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH CARE MEDICAL
TREATMENT- AND I URGE YOU TO
ELIMINATE BOTH OF THESE THINGS
THAT WE CAN ENSURE THE WELLNESS
OF OUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS AND
THEIR PATIENTS. THANK YOU THANKS
FOR COMING UP THANKS WOULD YOU
DO. NEXT PLEASE. AUTHORUSERNAME
REPRESENTING- THE HEALTH CENTERS
THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE
DOCTOR'S FROM MEXICO PROJECT I
WROTE THE LEGISLATION IN THE
YEAR TWO THOUSAND- YOU'LL HAVE
TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION
THIRTEEN NINETY FIVE AYE MR
GARCIA AS WELL AS THIRTEEN
NINETY SIX. I BELIEVE. YOU
RECEIVE ALONG WITH YOUR
CONSULTANT STAFF AND TO THE- THE
CHAIRMAN OF THE- ASSEMBLY-
COMMITTEE AND HIS CHIEF
CONSULTANT THE INFORMATION THAT.
THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE A NINETY IN
THIRTEEN NINETY SIX WHICH WOULD
EXTEND THE THREE YEAR LICENSE
NOT BEYOND THREE YEARS BUT
BECAUSE- WE HAD DELAYS WITH
PIECES OF A YEAR WE'VE HAD SOME
ISSUES WITH CREDENTIALING-
THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE VERY
TECHNICAL IN NATURE THEY'RE NOT
ABOUT SUBSTANCE- BUT- THAT. IS
TAKEN AWAY FROM THE TIME OF
BEING ABLE TO SEE PATIENTS. I
THINK TODAY YOU'VE HEARD A GREAT
DEAL OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF HAVING DOCTORS- IN
AREAS WHERE THERE ARE
HISTORICALLY NOT BEEN ENOUGH AND
CERTAINLY THOSE THAT HAVE
CULTURAL LINGUISTIC COMPETENCY.
WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THE
RELATIONSHIP WE FINALLY HAVE
DEVELOP WITH THE MEDICAL BOARD
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM
ON THIS LANGUAGE- WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE
ACCOMPLISHES THE OBJECTIVES THAT
WE NEED. WHICH IS TO MAKE SURE
THESE DOCTORS ARE ABLE TO COME
IN WE HAVE TWENTY TWO THAT HAVE
BEEN LICENSE FROM- SEVEN TWENTY
ONE TO- JUST- JUNE OF- EXCUSE ME
JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. AND
TOGETHER THEY HAVE SEEN. AGAIN
REMEMBER YOU NOT ALL OF THESE
TWENTY TWO HAVE BEEN PRACTICING
AT THE SAME TIME. THEY'VE SEEN A
TOTAL OF ABOUT FORTY THOUSAND
NEW PEOPLE AND A PROVIDED OVER
EIGHTY THOUSAND MEDICAL
ENCOUNTERS. THAT'S CREATED A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ACCESS
WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE
BEHIND THIS PROGRAM- SO IT IS
OUR HOPE THAT WE WILL HAVE YOUR
SUPPORT. FOR THAT LEGISLATION-
FOR THOSE TWO PIECES ONE WILL BE
INCORPORATED HOPEFULLY IN. ANY
KIND OF- REDO THAT YOU DO IN
TERMS OF- CHANGING SOME OF THE
PROVISIONS OF THE MEDICAL BOARD-
BUT WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THE
RELATIONSHIP WHERE WE HAVE AT
THIS TIME- WITH THE MEDICAL
BOARD AND- WE HOPE THAT IT WILL
CONTINUE AND THAT WILL BE ABLE
TO COME TO YOU IN ANOTHER TWO
YEARS WITH A PROGRAM THAT WILL.
HAVE A HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOCTORS
BECAUSE CALIFORNIA HAS TO
PRODUCE THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY
SEVEN PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS
BETWEEN TWENTY TWENTY FIVE AND
TWENTY THIRTY. I CAN ASSURE YOU
CENTER AS WELL AS ALL OF THE
SENATORS AND THE LEGISLATURE
THERE'S NO WAY IN GOD'S GOOD
EARTH. THAT THE UC SYSTEM'S
GOING TO PRODUCE THREE HUNDRED
AND FIFTY SEVEN THREE IN THIRTY
SEVEN DOCTOR. AND PRIMARY CARE
IN THOSE FIVE YEAR PERIOD YOU'RE
GOING TO NEED PEOPLE FROM
OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM AND THAT'S
UNFORTUNATE WE DON'T WANT THEM
HERE PERMANENTLY. OUR AGREEMENT
WITH MEXICO'S AT THEIR LANDING
INTO US FOR THREE YEARS. BUT WE
NEED A LICENSE IN ORDER TO GET
TO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT
A VISA APPLICATION. AND THAT'S
WHAT THIRTEEN NINETY FIVE HELPS
US DO IT CAN ONLY BE DONE
LEGISLATIVELY CENTER ROCK I
THINK YOU THAT'S BECAUSE SOME
CONVERSATIONS. WITH SENATOR
COVER YET- INDICATING THAT YOU
GUYS COULD DO ADMINISTRATIVELY.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE WROTE
THIRTEEN NINETY FIVE. BECAUSE
WE'RE IN WORKING WITH THE
MEDICAL BOARD. YOU CAN ONLY BE
DONE THROUGH A LEGISLATIVE FIX.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
NEXT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON
VANESSA GONZALEZ WITH A
CALIFORNIA HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION.
RELATED TO ISSUE NUMBER SEVEN C.
H. A. APPRECIATES THE PROACTIVE
ENGAGEMENT OF THE MEDICAL BOARD.
TO SOLVE THE PROCEDURAL AND
POLICY CHALLENGES THAT CURRENTLY
EXIST IN THE POSTGRADUATE
TRAINING LICENSE. LICENSING
PROCESS WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE MEDICAL
BOARD THE LEGISLATURE. AND
OTHERS TO IDENTIFY SOLUTIONS SO
RESIDENTS IN OUR HOSPITALS CAN
GET THEIR LICENSES. IN A TIMELY
MANNER AND CAN CONTINUE FOR. AND
CAN CONTINUE TO CARE FOR
PATIENTS. WE ALSO LOOK FORWARD
TO CONTINUED COLLABORATION ON
OTHER ISSUES. IMPACTING
CALIFORNIA HOSPITALS THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MA'AM NEXT PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GEORGE
SOURIS OF THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION I WANT TO START OFF
BY. THANKING AND APPRECIATING
THE OTHER MEDICAL BOARD THE
STAFF- WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS
LONG PROCESSES AS WELL AS YOURS
AND YOUR STAFF- REGARDING ISSUE
NUMBER FIVE ON THEIR LICENSE OR
FEE INCREASE CMA'S WORKING
CLOSELY WITH THE MEDICAL BOARD.
AND THE LEGISLATURE TO FIND A
REASONABLE AGREEMENT ON SOME
SORT OF ALLIES INTERFERING
CREES. CMA UNDERSTANDS THE
INSOLVENCY ISSUES THAT THE
MEDICAL BOARD CURRENTLY HAS AN
IS DEALT WITH OVER THE PAST FEW
YEARS. BUT OUR MEMBERSHIP CANNOT
JUSTIFY SUCH A LARGE INCREASE AT
ONCE. ESPECIALLY SHORTLY AFTER
INCREASE A COUPLE YEARS AGO- WE
ARE COMMITTED TO BEING
COLLABORATIVE IN THIS PROCESS
WELL FINDING A FUNDING MECHANISM
THAT IS REASONABLE AND ENABLES
THE MEDICAL BOARD TO BE FISCALLY
SOLVENT- CMA IS OPPOSED TO ISSUE
NUMBER ONE ON THE PUBLIC NUMBER
MAJORITY- WE AGREED TO
COMMITTEES COMMENTS. ON THE
ISSUE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO
THE LACK OF CLARITY REGARDING
THE POSITIVE IMPACT THE BOARD
COMPOSITION WOULD HAVE WE'VE
OPPOSE LEGISLATION TO PASS ON
THIS AS WELL. CMA IS OPPOSED TO
ISSUE NUMBER TEN RELATING TO
CHANGING THE THRESHOLD FOR THE
EVIDENTIARY STANDARD. EVERY
OTHER PROFESSIONAL BOARD IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA USE A
STANDARD OF CLEAR AND CONVINCING
WE DO NOT BELIEVE THIS
DISRUPTION IN THE PROCESS. IS
NECESSARY- CMS. WITH ISSUE
FIFTEEN. SPECIFICALLY AS IT
RELATES TO ENHANCE MEDICAL
RECORDS INSPECTION- BYPASSING
ESTABLISHED PROTOCOLS THAT
ENSURE PATIENT PRIVACY. SHOULD
NOT BE THE WAY THE BORN HANSON
FORSMAN- ISSUE NUMBER SIXTEEN IS
AND IT. LOOKS FOR TO WORK IN THE
LEGISLATURE AND MEDICAL BOARD TO
IMPROVE. OUTCOMES AND EFFICIENCY
AS IT RELATES TO THE MEDICAL
BOARD ENFORCEMENT PROCESS- ISSUE
NUMBER SIX. WE DO APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE'S COMMENTS- AND
INCREIBLE THE APPLICATION
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD
FROM NUMEROUS RESIDENTS THAT.
THIS DOES STIGMATIZE. MENTAL
HEALTH AND SEEKING TREATMENT FOR
MENTAL HEALTH WE WOULD SUPPORT
AN EFFORT BY THE BOARD TO WORK
ON THIS ISSUE TOGETHER- ISSUE
NUMBER SEVEN. CMA'S CLOSELY
WORKING WITH THE MEDICAL BOARD.
AS POSITIVE TRACTION ON
POSTGRADUATE LICENSE SURE. WE
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS A
COMMON GOAL OF REFORMING THIS
COMPLEX AND TIME SENSITIVE
PROCESS. CMAKE CARES DEEPLY
ABOUT THE WHOLE SUNSET REVIEW
PROCESS. BUT THESE ARE SOME OF
OUR TOP ISSUES FOR A PHYSICIAN
MEMBERS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
THE CONTINUED WORK WITH EVERYONE
IN THIS ROOM THANK YOU. THANK
YOU ANYONE ELSE IN ROOM TWENTY
ONE HUNDRED TWO WISHES TO MAKE
PUBLIC COMMENT. IF NOT LET'S
MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT VIA THE
TELECONFERENCING OF THIS
MODERATOR PLEASE PROMPT. ANY
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO MAKE
PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE MEDICAL
BOARD OF CALIFORNIA WILL BEGIN
WITH THEM- LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO ON
YOUR PHONE. YOU'LL RECEIVE A
LINE NUMBER AND BE PLACED BACK
INTO Q. ONCE AGAIN THAT IS ONE
NINE ZERO ON YOUR PHONE. AND WE
WILL START WITH LINE NUMBER
EIGHTY PLEASE GO AHEAD LINE
NUMBER EIGHTY WE'RE GOING TO TRY
TO KEEP THIS TO ONE MINUTE.
WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES PLEASE
PROCEED. OKAY MY NUMBER EIGHTY.
WELL I CAN HEAR YOU PLEASE STATE
YOUR NAME AND PROCEED. ALL
FORWARD. OKAY MY NAME IS FAMILY
PLANNING FROM SAN DIEGO TO MY
HOMETOWN OF BAKERSFIELD AND I'M
A VOLUNTEER WITH CONSUMER
WATCHDOG. MY LITTLE SISTER THE
BRING IT OUT OF THE GARDEN WHEN
YOU GET YOUR SOULS JUST BEFORE
GIVING BIRTH- THANK YOU WITHOUT
SO MUCH PAIN HE WENT TO THE
HOSPITAL SPEAKING OUT IF YOU
WISH TRACK WITH THAT HOME
OWNERSHIP. NOT READY TO GIVE
BIRTH YEAH. BUT MY SISTER WAS
PART OF A MAJOR INTENSIFIED. SHE
WENT BACK TO THE HOSPITAL WHERE
HE WAS GIVEN ALL. GIVEN STATE
ALL RIGHT. HER DOCTOR THE ZERO
YOUR FATHER THE HE COLLAPSED AND
DIED. I FOUND QUITE A FEW FOR ME
IF YOU ARE. WONDERFUL MORE THAN
A FEW. MY SISTER'S. THE FROM HER
BABY BOY WITH. HE WILL NEVER BE
A TO LOOK INTO HIS MOUTH EYES.
THIS IS A HOW CARE AND- WE CAN
BEGIN TO WITH THE WITH INVEST
THE OF THE MOTHER. WE ARE
CALLING ON YOU MAKE THIS. FOR
THE BUSINESSES OF THE FOR CODE
AND IF I THAT BILL IN A DAY THE
- COMPLAINT. IT'S VERY SURE THIS
THEM. THIS WOULD GUARANTEE THAT
THE COMPLY WILL BE. TO I AM ALSO
CALLING ON. REQUIRE THE BOARD TO
INTERVENE. BEFORE THE DEATH
COMPLAINT IS DISMISSED. DOCTORS
HAVE FOR OFFER TO PROVIDE INPUT
BUT WE HAVE NO OFF THE- WITH.
WITH AN INVESTIGATION. FINALLY
WE NEED MORE TRANSPARENCY FROM
THE BOARD IN ORDER TO PROTECT
MOTHERS LIKE MY SISTER. MY
SISTER'S DOCTOR WITH THE-
OFFENDER DR HE HAS HARMED OTHER
WOMEN AND WAS ON PROBATION AT
THE TIME MY SISTER WORKS WITH
PATIENTS HE WAS DISCIPLINED FOR
RECEIVE A FAX THE CASH IN HIS
OFFICE WITH WAITED. ON THIS
CHARGE THE TWENTY EIGHT FAMILY.
COUNTS EACH PATIENT. CARE MY
SISTER HADN'T. NO IDEA ABOUT.
THE FELONY COUNTS THANK THE
PATIENT CARE. NEEDS TO BE
INCLUDED ON THE POSITION.
PROFILE WE SHOULD. HAVE THE
RIGHT TO THIS INFORMATION. YOU
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT
TOO MANY YOUNG MOTHERS ARE
DYING. MAKE THE CHANGE. AND KNOW
THAT YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
SAVING LIVES THANK YOU. THANK
YOU OF MODERATOR NEXT BY THE WAY
FOR THOSE ON THE LINE WE HAVE
OVER THIRTY CALLERS WAITING ON
THE LINE SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO
ASK YOU TO KEEP IT TO ONE OR TWO
MINUTES. IF NOT ONE OF TWO
THINGS WILL HAPPEN I WILL EITHER
TERMINATE. YOUR COMMENTS AND
MOVE TO THE NEXT OR I WILL
TERMINATE THE PUBLIC COMMENT-
EARLIER THAN I WOULD OTHERWISE
DO SO. NEXT PLEASE. NEXT
REPORTER MY NUMBER THIRTY ONE.
OKAY. PLEASE PROCEED. THE CARD.
HI I CAN HEAR YOU PERFECTLY WERE
WAITING. OKAY THIS IS JUDITH FOR
STATE I LIVE IN OXNARD
CALIFORNIA. AND I'M ASKING THAT
YOU REQUIRE DOCTORS. TO TELL
THEIR PATIENTS BOTH ONLINE AND
IN PERSON WHEN THEY HAVE
CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST THEM
PENDING. OUR ONLY DAUGHTER MEGAN
ESPINOZA WINCHELL LICENSE
PLASTIC SURGEON IN SAN DIEGO
COUNTY AND TWENTY NINETEEN FOR
ELECTIVE PROCESS. ONE MONTH
AFTER HER THIRTY SIXTH BIRTHDAY.
MARK STOPPED DURING THAT A
PROCEDURE THAT THE DOCTOR CHOSE
TO FINISH THE PROCEDURE I WENT
ON TO WAIT THREE HOURS BEFORE HE
CALLED AN AMBULANCE. MAN
PROMISED. NO HARM. WAITED UNTIL
SHE WAS BRAIN DEAD YOUR CALL
THAT AMBULANCE. HE DIED FIVE AND
A HALF WEEKS LATER NEVER
REGAINING CONSCIOUSNESS. DR
CONTINUE TO PRACTICE. THE CARD
WITH INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER IN
DECEMBER OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE
BUT HE CONTINUES TO PRACTICE.
THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL BOARD IF
YOU THEIR FIRST ACTIVATION
TWENTY TWENTY ONE BUT HE
CONTINUES TO PRACTICE. IT HARD
AT LEAST FIVE OTHER PEOPLE BUT
YOU CAN MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. HER
HUSBAND WIFE OR PARTNER OR RIGHT
TO BE OPERATED ON BY A DOCTOR
WHO IS CHARGED WITH INVOLUNTARY
MANSLAUGHTER. YOU WANT A LIFE
AND WE RECEIVED. THANK YOU HAVE
A WAY. AFTER A MEDICAL BOARD HAS
NOT SEVERELY PUNISHED HIM OR
THANK HIM. WE PROTECT THE
PUBLIC. OUR DAUGHTER LEFT A
LOVING HUSBAND. TWO FOUR EIGHT
EIGHT EIGHT SIX AND A HALF. IN
MY BROTHER AND MANY READING. OUR
JOY OUT OF MY LIFE AND ADDED TO
OUR DAILY ROUTINE BUT HE STILL
PRACTICES. THANK ACCOUNTABLE BUT
THIS KIND OF. THERE ALL GRIEVOUS
THE CHARGES ARE FILED AGAINST
THEM IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY
TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC DOCTORS
WITH THE MOST CHARGES MUST
INFORM THEIR PATIENTS. THANK YOU
. MY COMMENT. THANK YOU MA'AM
I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS AND I
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THANK
YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE NEXT
PLEASE. BY NUMBER. SIXTY NINE.
ONE HELLO CALL HOME I'M A
VOLUNTEER- WITH YOUR WATCHDOG
SANTIAGO AND THEN PROVIDE FOR
THEM AFTER FILING. WHEN DID YOU
LOSE OUR RIGHT THE STOCK HAS A
TINY IN FIRST AND TO GIVE FIRST
THE WAY THAT WE WANT INTEREST
YOUR PROCEDURE THAT ARE NOT
MEDICALLY NECESSARY. WHEN I WAS
IN LABOR I HAD DIRECT IT FOR THE
BIRTH OF MY CHILD WHAT MY NEEDS
FOR COMPLETELY IGNORES THE MY
BABY WAS COMING OUT YOUR BE FOR
MY ECONOMY AND PREVENTED ME FROM
PARTICIPATING. IN THE BIRTH OF
MY DAUGHTER. HE SHOUTED OUT. ALL
OF YOU THANKS DIFFER WHEN THERE
WAS YOU FORCED THE INFORMATION
WITHOUT TO FULFILL THREE EIGHT
POOL COMPLETE. HE SHOUTED AT THE
TOP MAKING NOISE SHOPS PANTS
LYFT AROUND MY HEY. THAT WOULD
EMERGE AGAIN MY WILL AND WHEN
THEY EXPECT I BEGAN HEARING BY
WITH WHICH SHE WAS ONLY APART
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO. HE PICKED
UP THE THIRD CUT EVEN THOUGH I
HAD TOLD HIM WHAT TIMES OUR-
THIS WOULD NOT BE BY. I TOLD HIM
NO DO NOT YET HOLD AGAIN NOT
ONLY YOU BUT THE THIRD DOWN AND
I THOUGHT HE HAD FINALLY ALL MY
WITH. BUT NO HE THEM UP YOU CAN
COPY YOU PERFORM A PVR AND THERE
WAS NO MATTER EMERGENCY YOU
DON'T IT. MOMENT AFTER CALL
MIGHT BE OUT OF ME DELTA YOU OUT
OF THAT WITHOUT WAITING FOR THE
BELL MY LEFT AND LYFT WITNESS.
FIVE I THANK HIM I COULD FEEL IT
WHEN HE EDGED ME UP HE HAD MORE
NEED. I KEPT REPEATING BUT I CAN
FEEL THE PAIN. YOU FIND RESPOND
LACKING IN AND YOUR WANT TO BE
FOUND YOU. CONVENIENTLY ALL THE
OUT OF MY FOR. MY RECORD BUT
THERE ARE FUN WHEN. WE NEED
ACCOUNTABILITY THE BATTERY
PROTECTION BYLAW FOR THE- BIAS
HOW. IN THE HEALTH CARE. I AM
CALLING ON YOU RECALL REPORT
INTERVIEW. BEFORE THERE'S BODILY
INJURY DEATH COMPLETE DISMISS.
DOCTORS HAVE FOR OPPORTUNITY
FROM INPUT BUT WE NOT. WHEN WE
FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE FORD
NEED A COMPLETE BACK. BY I MIGHT
AT RECALLING YOU COULD STOP THE
D. COMPLAINT PRIOR CREEK
PRIORITIZE. SYSTEM IN OTHER
HEALTH CARE REALLY BOARD. BUT
THEY EAT. OTHER BOARD USED THAT
CHANGE REQUIRE. BODILY INJURY
FROM. AND DEFINITELY TO BE IN.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AGAINST
THE CURRENT MATERNAL BATTERY AND
MATERNAL MORTALITY RATE YOU CAN
ONLY DO THAT YOUR INVESTIGATOR
COMPLAINT. WE REQUIRE A
MANDATORY INTERVIEW BEFORE JUST
MAKING. ME FROM POINT AND
MODIFIED TO DO BUSINESS WITH
CONFESSIONS CODE I'M L. A. DOT
D. YEAH RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS NEXT. WE
HAVE A NUMBER FIVE. BUT NUMBER
EIGHT. OKAY I AM FEELING I'LL
GRANT I AM FROM BIG BILLION
BALLING TO CONSUMER WATCHDOG I
AM A MOM WHO HAS. INBOX MY
BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER STRUGGLE BUT
YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO I THINK
THREE COMPLICATIONS OR MY ENTIRE
PREGNANCY IF I WITH BODY. THEN I
THOUGHT P. ON MY FLIGHT I WENT
TO THE ER WHERE THE POLITICAL TO
MY OB DOCTOR WHO WOULD NOT HELP
ME. I COULD NOT EAT I COULD NOT
SET UP I PLEADED WITH HELP FROM
MY DOCTOR WHO. HE WOULD NOT.
START WOULDN'T DO ANY MORE
POLITICAL MORE. I KEPT GOING
BACK TO THE E. ARE DESTINED FOR
HELP FROM MY CHILD BUT THEY KEPT
SENDING ME BACK TO MY OB. I
COULDN'T EAT I COULDN'T FEEL MY
HANDS I COULDN'T BREATHE. I
COULDN'T THE HOSPITAL WHERE MY
WILL BE DELIVERED MY DAUGHTER
WHO WEEK FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE
GRAND. BY DOCTOR WOULD NOT
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS I HAD HÌNH.
HE LEFT THE ROOM. THIS IS THE
KIND OF CARE CENTRAL VALLEY.
GIVE THE A ALL THE COULD WITH
THE MEDICAL. AND IT WAS THIS AT
THE CENTRAL COMPLAINT UNIT WITH
NO INTERVIEW AND ALL INPUT FROM
ME. MY DAUGHTER FOR BUT SURVIVED
ONLY BECAUSE SHE WAS AIRLIFTED
OUT OF BECAUSE- HE CANNOT WALK.
HE WILL NEED TWENTY FOUR SEVEN
CARE FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE
FOR COMPLETE SHOULD BE
INVESTIGATED THE COMPLETE SYSTEM
IS NOT WORKING FOR FAMILIES. I
AM PLEADING WITH YOU TO MAKE THE
CHANGES NECESSARY. AND THINGS
LIKE THAT BUT- REQUIRED THE
BOARD BUT THAT THE DCA COMPLETE
THE THING. THAT THE OTHER
HEALTHCARE BOARD USED FOR OUR-
INJURY AND DEATH COMPLAINT WILL
BE INVESTIGATED. I'M ALSO ASKING
YOU TO INCLUDE IN THIS I'M A
BILL THAT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE
BOARD MUST INTERVIEW THE FAMILY
BEFORE THEY DISMISSED A SERIOUS
INJURY OR DEATH COMPLAIN. THAT
DOCTORS HAVE RIGHT. WE ARE WE
ARE WORKING RIGHT MY DAUGHTER.
YOU CAN GIVE MIKE. AND OTHER
FAMILY HERE THE RIGHT TO HAVE
OUR FIELD LIVE HARM. DEFINITELY
INVESTIGATE. WE THINK OUR
RECOMMENDATION IN OUR SOMETHING
THEY'LL THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT PLEASE. HEY WE WILL WALK
THE LINE NUMBER NINETY FIVE.
THERE IS NOT ME AND MY NUMBER
NINETY FIVE. YOUR WHATEVER YOU
WANT TO BE IN THEM PLEASE
PROCEED. WHATEVER I WANT TO BE
RESPECTFULLY SENATOR ROSS I'M
WHATEVER NUMBER THEY ASSIGNED TO
ME BUT I HEAR YOU SPEAKING I'M A
REGULAR IN THE MEDICAL BOARD-
SUNSET REVIEW I'M ALSO A REGULAR
IN. ATTENDING THESE- MEDICAL
BOARD QUARTERLY MEETINGS IN
PERSON. BUT FOR THE- DOWN
PAYMENT SO THAT BEING SAID. IF
YOU'RE GIVING AMPLE TIME FOR
CITIZEN VOICES. I WANT TO FIRST
OFF. START BY SAYING HOW HEART
BREAKING IT IS. YOU HEAR THE
STORIES. OF THE HORRIFIC
TREATMENT AND- DEATH OF THE-
I'LL BE CALIFORNIA'S WHO HAVE NO
. FROM THIS. ONGOING CORRUPTION
CORRUPTION BY THIS IS A VERY
DYSFUNCTIONAL AGENCY THAT IS
BEING AIDED AND ABETTED BY YOU
WHILE MAKERS. AND I DON'T MEAN
TO SOUND OVERLY UPSET. BUT ARE
YOU PREPARED AND USE THEIR
ASKING ONE ANOTHER WHERE THE
MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM AS
YOU BOLSTER ONE ANOTHER'S
INEPTITUDE. ARE YOU PREPARED FOR
THE AVALANCHE OF LAWSUITS THAT
ARE GOING TO BE COMING YOUR WAY.
BECAUSE OF THE GENOCIDE WAGED
AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA
WITH THESE FAKE VACCINES THESE
MRNA TECHNOLOGY. INJECTIONS.
THAT HAVE KILLED. MANY IN
CALIFORNIA MANHANDLED OVER MAN
AND YOU SIT THERE AND THEN
ATTEND ISN'T HAVING WHEN YOU TRY
TO CUT ME OFF I WILL NEVER CUT
OFF THE TRUTH MA'AM BECAUSE THIS
HAS BEEN. THE MOST. IF YOU
LISTEN TO ME BUT I'M TRYING HE'S
GONNA GUESS NEXT PLEASE.
RIVERBOAT PROVIDE NUMBERS FIFTY
TWO FISCAL HAD. I AM MICHELLE
MONTARA RAHMAN NINE WOULD
CONSUMER WATCHDOG I WILL BE
FAMILIES ACROSS THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA HELP GUIDE THEM
THROUGH THIS COMPLEX REGULATORY
BOARD. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE
MEDICAL NEGLIGENCE FAMILY I LIKE
MANY MEMBERS OF MY TEAM FATHER
DEATH SOME PLANES BEFORE THE
MEDICAL BOARD I THINK THAT IF
YOU AUTOPSY REPORT ONE FOR THE
L. A. COUNTY CORONER'S OFFICE. I
COMMITTED THE DEATHS OF WHICH
WAS THE CAUSE OF DEATH WATCH
SURGERY SURGICAL SITE INFECTION
AND DEATH LIKE THE BIG SHOCK I
GATHER THEIR BEST RECORD WHAT
MONTEREY CIRCULAR THAT GIVE IT A
CRACK COCAINE. BUT IT WAS STILL
THE DIFFERENCE OF THE CENTRAL
COMPLETENESS. HE MANY
COMPLAINTS. THE FEDERAL
COMPLAINT UNIT LIKE LLOYD WE'RE
CALLING ON YOU TO INCLUDE IN THE
SENSE THAT THEY'RE ALL THAT THE
BOARD BE REQUIRED HE INTERVIEWED
COMPLAINED. BEFORE THEIR DEATH.
WHAT INTERESTS ACCORDING ARGUED
. DR IMPERTINENT. I DID NOT
WRITE. WANT TO BOARD CONSIDERED
. WHEN THEY- A COMPLAINT
INTERVIEW HERE AND IF YOU THINK
PROCESS WHEN THE DOCTOR HAD BEEN
PUT. IT MAKES. AMERICA BOY HAS
THE FEDERAL. WELL THE OFFICE THE
BOARD MUST FOLLOW THE COMPLAINT
CARD IS A THE- RECALL NOT YOU TO
MAKE NEXT THIRTEEN. WE EVER THE
MEDICAL BOARD TO DOT HE IT
COMPLAIN SYSTEM- DEFINITELY IN.
FAMILY HAVE RIGHTS AND ACROSS
HERE SEE THAT RECOMMENDATION GET
A FRIEND. THANK YOU AND FOR
THOSE STILL WAITING ON THE LINE
YOU'LL BE. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST
IS IF YOU RATHER THAN REPEATING
IN DETAIL WHAT'S BEEN TESTIFIED
TO BEFORE PERHAPS YOU COULD
SIMPLY REF REFERENCE IT AND
INDICATE YOUR SUPPORT. OBVIOUSLY
PERSONAL STORIES ARE DIFFERENT
PLEASE PROCEED NEXT. MY NUMBER
SIXTY ONE. NO HELLO. HELLO
PLEASE PROCEED HI MY NAME HI MY
NAME IS FAITH THE MAIN GUESS MY
ANSWER BAKED BUT ALSO. I'M A
CONSUMER WATCHDOG TO FIGHT OFF
YEAH ME MY DAUGHTER AND MY
GRANDSON MALACHI TO MEDICAL
NEGLIGENCE. AND NOW I'M FIGHTING
JUSTICE FOR THEIR DEATH AND TO
HOLD ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE
PHYSICIANS RESPONSIBLE WE NEED.
TO MAKE HELP IN THE PROCESS TO
MAKE IT FAIR FOR FAMILY AS WELL
DOCTORS. WE NEED TO MAKE THE
CHANGES IN THE BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONAL CODE. CD A
COMPLAINT FOR FORTY HOURS A XIN
SYSTEM. YOU ARE DEFINITELY SO
THEY WILL BE INVESTIGATED I AM
ASKING DAN IF THEY SPENT THAT
THEY'LL TO INTERVIEW A
COMPLAINANT'S BEFORE THE- COURT
DISMISSED THE DEATH COMPLAINT.
MY BACKGROUND. WAS NOT CREDITED
DEATH COMPLAINT. HE WAS NOT A
FETUS HE WAS A FIVE POUND BABY
BOY WHO SUFFERED NECK MATERNAL.
NEGLIGENCE FROM THE MULTIPLE
DOCTORS. WE CANNOT BEGIN TO
CURTIS MATERNAL MORTALITY CRISIS
UNLESS WE INVESTIGATE THE DEATH
OF BABIES AND MOTHERS. BUT MY
FATHER FIRST FOUND OUT. TWENTY
THE GYNECOLOGIST SHE DISCOVERED
THAT THAT DOCTOR HAD. SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT FOR CASH HE WENT TO.
ANOTHER DOCTOR WHO IS JUST AS
BAD BOTH OF THEM THE FACT THAT
WITH THE REPEAT OFFENDER BUT MY
DOCTOR AFFECTING FROM SEVERE
COMPLICATIONS. SHE WENT TO A
LOCAL HOSPITAL TO SEEK OUT. THE
DOCTOR SIGNED HER CARE WITH THE
TWENTY FIVE YEAR REPEAT OFFENDER
WHO HAD BOUGHT HOSPITAL
PRIVILEGES FOLLOWING THE DEATH
OF ANOTHER TWENTY THREE YEAR
OLD. MOTHER THREE YEARS PRIOR.
THE BOARD KNEW THIS DOCTOR WAS A
REPEAT OFFENDER. THEY KNEW THEIR
SOCCER HAD LASTED WHICH IS THAT
MOBILE HOSPITALS IN VEGAS SO.
BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW. PLEASE THANK
THE THING IS THEY'LL DR LUKASZ
APPROVED MATT THE NOTED ON THE
FOOT IT MUST BE NOTED ON THE
POSITION PROFILE. WE NEED THIS
INFORMATION TO PROTECT OUR
FAMILIES PLEASE THANK YOU
SENATOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
COMMENTS NEXT PLEASE. BY
NINETEEN NINETY TWO. HELLO CAN
YOU HEAR ME PERFECTLY PLEASE
PROCEED. OKAY BARBECUE HERE.
OKAY YOUR LINE IS OPEN. R. EIGHT
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LINE
HERE WE HAVE ALL. NUMBER NINETY
TWO YOUR LINE IS OPEN. ABOUT
THAT- MY NAME IS ROBERT JANUARY
I'M FROM NEWPORT BEACH AND I'M A
VOLUNTEER. THE CONSUMER
WATCHDOG. BY MOTHER TANYA ANDREA
ENTERED AN ORANGE COUNTY
HOSPITAL IN APPROVED ANGIOPLASTY
IN ONE STEP PROCEDURE. IN TWO
THOUSAND SIXTEEN JUNE FIFTEENTH
. AND- WHILE SHE WAS ALREADY IN
PRE OP. THE OPERATIONS-
CARDIOLOGISTS DIDN'T HAVE THE
RIGHT MEDICAL TOOL AND THEN
HATTER LEAD. MEN JUST PUT HER ON
ALL OF THIS MEDICATION UNTIL THE
NEXT FULL YEAR TWO THOUSAND TEAM
IN FEBRUARY. AND HE- DIDN'T GO
THROUGH MY MOM'S INSURANCE IS
TIME TO GET IT HIS OPERATION
APPROVED. AIR AND- HE ENDED UP
DOING- BACKDOOR INSURANCE FRAUD
OF MY MOM. EVEN FRAUD. WILL BE
SPENT ON YOU GUYS HAVEN'T DONE
ANYTHING TO HELP. YEAH AND- I'M
SICK AND I'M LIVING IN HELL WHAT
I'M GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. AND
I'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS WHOLE
TIME HE TOLD MY MOM IS GONNA PUT
AN OLD ONLY ONE SCARED NO MORE
AND WE SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO HOME
IN A DAY OR TWO I HAVE THE BOYS
FAILED TO PROVE IT. BUT FIREARM
DOCUMENT THAT STUFF MY MOM PART
OF IT HE SAID- UNDER MY MOM DID
IT THERE. THE OPERATION AND-
RECOVERY. AND- I SUBMITTED A
CONSUMER COMPLAINT ON BEHALF OF
MY MOM AND MY CLIP WAS
DISMISSED. CITING THAT STATUTE.
A LIMITATION ISSUE BUT I STILL
HAVE ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF ON
THE CLOCK. AND THE MEDFORD CITY
SOME COLD FORM LETTER STATING
THAT MY MOTHER'S COMPLAINT WAS
CLOSE WITHOUT CONTACTING. FOR AN
INTERVIEW- GIVING YOU THE RIGHT.
TO OFFER EMPLOYMENT. THIS NEEDS
TO CHANGE I AM ASKING YOU TO
INCLUDE IN THE SUNSET BILL. AT
THE BOARD. THE- REQUIRED TO
INTERVIEW THE FAMILY BEFORE THE
DISMISSED- DEATH COMPLAINT AND
ALSO FULLY SUPPORT THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU MAKE
CHANGES. THE BILL REQUIRED TO
ADOPT THE DCA COMPLAINT
PROCEDURES THE SHOW SYSTEM. THAT
WOULD REQUIRE THE BOARD TO
INVESTIGATE OUR DEATH COMPLAINTS
. HE SHOW US THAT YOU ARE
LEGISLATORS. ARE MAKING CONSUMER
PROTECTION A PRIORITY AND THAT
THESE TWO PROPERTIES TO THE
SUNSET BILL THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT PLEASE. NEXT WE WILL BOTH
PROVIDE NUMBER THIRTY SIX PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON SENATOR
RON AND MATT. MANY WOMEN OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS BERNICE
JOHNSON I'M COUNTRY IN A
VOLUNTEER WITH CONSUMER WATCHDOG
. THERE IS NOTHING WORSE THAN
HAVING TO BURY YOUR CHILD NO
MOTHER SHOULD HAVE EIGHT NOR
FATHER. MY FRIEND BY AND WHEN IT
BATTLED OVER BRAIN CANCER ONLY
TO SUCCUMB TO HAVE AN INFECTION
. HIS DEATH WAS PREVENTABLE IF
DOCTOR MADE NEGLIGENT OF HIM AND
WITH HEALTH CARE FOR MY SON
WHICH LED TO HIS DEATH. WHAT
APPEARED TO BE A COMPLAINT
WORTHY OF IN FACT INVESTIGATION
DO YOU. WELL IT OR DIDN'T THINK
SO BECAUSE MY COMPLAINT QUOTE. I
AM HERE TODAY THE FIGHTING IN
HONOR OF MY CONCERNS BUT I AM
ALSO FIGHTING FOR OTHER
CALIFORNIANS I AM FIGHTING FOR
THE RIGHT OF YOU. I AM FIGHTING
FOR THE RIGHTS OF YOUR CHILDREN
AND YOUR GRANDCHILDREN. MEDICAL
BOARD AIMED AT THEIR OWN
COMPLAINT SYSTEM WAS SUPPOSED TO
WORK BUT IT ISN'T WORKING. THE
BOARD CLAIMS TO HAVE THE SAME
GUIDELINES AND OTHER HEALTH CARE
BOARD USED THE TONIGHT USING.
HAVING THE MEDICAL CONSULTING OR
EVEN BETTER YET THE ENFORCEMENT
ANALYSTS MAKE A DETERMINATION OF
WHETHER MIKE AND DEATH AND THE
LACK OF CARE THAT LED TO IT YES
IT'S WORTHY OF INVESTIGATION. IS
NOT WORKING WE HAVE PATIENTLY
WAITED FOR CHANGE THE TIME FOR
CHANGE IS NOW. WE NEED YOU TO
REVISED TO BUSINESS
PROFESSIONALS CURLED IN THE
SENSE THAT BILL AND IT UP IF YOU
SEE A COMPLAINT BY A FORD
STATION. I'M THAT OTHER
HEALTHCARE BOARD ARE USING.
STANDING DESKS ARE REALLY
INTRIGUING PLAN SIMPLIFICATION
WHERE THEY ALL BELONG. DOCTORS
SHOULD NOT HAVE DIFFERENT RULES
OR NOT YOU'LL HAVE THE DOCTORS
NURSES AND OTHER HEALTH CARE
PROFESSIONALS THIS PRODUCT THAT
IS NOT EQUITABLE. WE ARE ALSO
CALLING ON YOU TO REQUIRE A
COMPLAINANT. OR FAMILY INTERVIEW
BEFORE ARE DEATH PLANES ARE
DISMISSED WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR
EQUAL RIGHTS AND IT'S IMPORTANT
ACOSTA. PLEASE INCLUDE THESE TWO
ISSUES CONTEMPT THAT FELL. AND
THANK YOU GOOD EVENING. THANK
YOU PLEASE. FEINBERG. NINETY
EIGHT. MY NUMBER NINETY EIGHT
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HEY WE WILL
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BURKE MY
NUMBER TWENTY EIGHT. RECALL HAS
. HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME JUST
PERFECTLY. OKAY THANK YOU GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS MARIAN
HOLLINGSWORTH AND I'M A PATIENT
SAFETY ADVOCATE THE MEDICAL
BOARD IS FAILING TO PROTECT
CALIFORNIA'S WHICH IS THE
PURPOSE OF THIS MISSION
STATEMENT I'M ASKING THIS
COMMITTEE TO HOLD THE BOARD
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE FAILURE SOME
EXAMPLES. A RECENT CASE WITH THE
BOARD HAD THE AG'S OFFICE
SUBPOENA BOARD MEMBER DR RICHARD
THORPE TO TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF
THE DOCTOR AND THE HEARING. AND
THE STOCK MARKET WILL BRING NEW
EACH OTHER AND WORK TOGETHER
THIS IS A CLEAR CONFLICT OF
INTEREST FINANCIAL GROUP FOR HAD
HARMED FIVE PATIENTS THEIR
EXCESSIVE PRESCRIBING INCLUDING
ONE WHO DIED. ABOARD YOUR GROUP
JUST A PUBLIC REPRIMAND EVEN OF
THE GUIDELINES SAY THIS
VIOLATION SHOULD GET A MINIMUM
OF FIVE YEARS. THE MEDICAL BOARD
IS ALSO NOT TAKING IS ALSO
TAKING THE SIDE OF THE DOCTORS
OVER PATIENTS- AND NOT FALL WITH
WATER. RECENTLY THE BOARD
REINSTATED THE LICENSE OF DR
AUSTIN COOPER WHOSE LICENSE HAD
BEEN REVOKED FOR SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT AND EXPLOITATION IN
TWENTY EIGHTEEN. UNDER EVEN
SIXTEEN THIRTY SIX WHICH TOOK
EFFECT ON JANUARY FIRST OF THIS
YEAR DOCTORS CANNOT HAVE THEIR
LICENSE IS REINSTATED FOR THE
VIOLATION IF THEY WERE REVOKED
OR SURRENDERED HOWEVER. BOARD
REINSTATED COULD THIS LICENSE ON
JANUARY THIRTEENTH ANYWAY.
INCLUDE DISREGARD OF THIS NEW
STATE LAW RESTRICTS US SIXTEEN
THIRTY SIX TO SEE HOW YOU
INTERPRET IT INTERPRET THAT. AND
THEN THERE IS DR CARLOS CHACON
WHO WAS STILL PRACTICING AT AS
COSMETIC SURGERY CLINIC MORE
THAN FOUR YEARS AFTER HE WAS.
HAD THIS COMPLAINT FOR
MANSLAUGHTER IN THE DEATH OF A
PATIENT DOCUMENTS FROM CICCONE
DOESN'T HAVE ANY FORMAL SURGICAL
TRAINING PUT ANY PLASTIC OR
COSMETIC SURGERY PROGRAM. AND
HIS CLINIC AS LOSSES
ACCREDITATION. BOARDS THREE
YEARS TO FILE THE ACCUSATION AND
HE HAS YET TO HAVE HEARINGS FOR
HIS LICENSE OR FOR THE CRIMINAL
PART OF THE CASE. WHAT'S YOUR
CØNG DOES DESERVE DUE PROCESS IS
PATIENTS ALSO DESERVE TO BE
PROTECTED. AND FINDING ONE OF
THE DOCTOR COMPLAINTS IN MY
FATHER'S CASE. THAT CASE WAS.
EVEN THOUGH SAID THE STOCK. ARE
WOULD HARM SOMEBODY ELSE IF HE
WAS JUST A COUPLE YEARS LATER
OVERDOSED TO PAY AND ONLY VAN
WAS TO GIVE A- PROBATION. AND HE
STOPPED. THESE ARE JUST A FEW
KEY. WERE THE BOARD FOR THE DOCK
PARK BEFORE PUBLIC SAFETY THIS
TO STOP. THIS COMMITTEE HAS A-
TO CHANGE THE LAW THE STOCK IS
CONTACTED INTEREST AND
VIOLATIONS OF STATE LAW INSTEAD
OF THE- SAFETY IS TOP PRIORITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS NEXT
PLEASE. MY NUMBER EIGHTY FIVE WE
THOUGHT HAD. AFTERNOON MY NAME
IS KELLY MAY I'M A BOARD MEMBER
WITH CONSUMER WATCHDOG I AM FROM
DOWNEY CALIFORNIA. I'M HERE
TODAY TO REPRESENT MY SON ALEX
MACK WHO TRAGICALLY DIED DUE TO
MEDICAL NEGLIGENCE. AN ORANGE
COUNTY HOSPITAL ALEX WAS GIVEN A
LETHAL COMBINATION OF
MEDICATIONS AND MONEY WAS LEFT
ON MONITORED FOR MORE THAN SEVEN
HOURS. ALEX WAS FOUND DEAD IN
HIS HOSPITAL BED. DURING MORNING
ROUNDS ALREADY BEEN REGARDLESS.
MANY MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM HAVE
FILED COMPLAINTS WITH THE
MEDICAL BOARD BUT THEIR
COMPLAINTS WERE DISMISSED AT THE
CEO. I'M ONE OF THE FEW THIS
COMPLAINT WAS INVESTIGATED. MY
STAND HERE IN SUPPORT OF OUR
RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS
COMMITTEE INCLUDES IN THE SUNSET
SAIL A REQUIREMENT THAT THE
BOARD INTERVIEW THE COMPLAINANT
BEFORE EXACT COMPLAINT FOR A
SERIES BODILY INJURY COMPLAINT
IS THE STRESS. I ALSO SUPPORT
THE RECOMMENDATION. COMMITTEE
MAKE THE CHANGES THAT THE FUNDS
THAT FELL NECESSARY TO REQUIRE
THE BOARD TO ADOPT THE DCA
COMPLAINT PRIORITIZATION SYSTEM.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE BOARD TO
FORWARD DEATHS AND SERIOUS
BODILY INJURY COMPLAINTS TO
INVESTIGATION. IN MY SON'S CASE
MY COMPLAINT WAS INVESTIGATED
BUT THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION
WITH ME EVEN THOUGH I REPEATEDLY
CALLED AND EMAILED THE BOARD. I
WAS LEFT COMPLETELY IN THE DARK
DURING THE LENGTHY FOUR YEAR
PROCESS. AN ACCUSATION WAS FILED
AGAINST THE DOCTOR CITING
REPEATED NEGLIGENT ACTS
RESULTING IN MY SON'S DEATH. BUT
THE BOARD FAILED TO FOLLOW ITS
OWN DISCIPLINARY GUIDELINES AND
GAVE THE DOCTOR A PUBLIC
REPRIMAND LITTLE MORE THAN A
SLAP. ON THE WRIST FOR KILLING
MY SON. MY CLEAN IS YOU WOULD
RECOMMENDED. WHICH WOULD.
PATIENT PROTECTIONS ACROSS
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
COMMENTS NEXT PLEASE. ONE NUMBER
. EIGHTY FOUR. YES HI CAN YOU
HEAR ME PERFECTLY PLEASE PROCEED
. ARMORY I FIND THAT VERY I AM
FROM SANOFI INVOLUNTARILY
CONSUMERS WATCH DODD. AYE I'LL
DEFINITELY ON BEHALF OF MY
BROTHER AFTER HE WAS DIAGNOSED
THE FACT THAT. IT'S TREATMENT
WITHOUT STARTED IMMEDIATELY YEAH
COGNITIVE DISABILITIES AND HE
WAS LEFT ALONE. HI TREATMENT
STARTED IMMEDIATELY HE WOULD NOT
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET UP ON ITS
OWN AND LEAVE THE ROOM. NO ONE
KNEW WHERE HE WAS. OR COULD FIND
HIM EVENTUALLY HE WAS FOUND ON
THE FLOOR OF THE YARD AFTERNOON
I'M CONSCIOUS NO FULL. NOT
BREATHING HE DIED. TO MAKE
MATTERS WORSE THE DOCK CAN LET A
MAN ERROR WELL YOU THE MEDIC TO
REVIVE HIM. BECAUSE WITH THE
MEDICATION MY BROTHER HAVE BEEN
PLACED ON FOR YEARS MY BROTHER
NEVER HAD A CHANCE. THE MEDICAL
BOARD MRS MEDICATION ARE A NEVER
EVENT AND OTHER EGREGIOUS
NEGLIGENCE JACKSONVILLE AT THE
FEDERAL COMPLAINT UNIT WITHOUT
ME BEING INTERVIEWED. I LATER
WITH YOU TO TALK TO COLLEGE
REPORT MY THOUGHT THOUGHT HE
WHICH CONFIRMED THE CONTENT.
MEDICATION ARE. HI I GIVEN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE
INFORMATION DURING AN INTERVIEW
MY BROTHER THAT COMPLAINT SHOULD
HAVE THE SENSE OF THAT GEISHA.
WE ARE FORCED TO DO OUR OWN
INVESTIGATION BECAUSE WE HAVE
NOT BEEN CUT IN THE IMPORT AND
PROFITS. WE ARE FORCED TO WORK
SO HARD TO MOVE LIKE THAT FROM
PLATE. BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALLOWS
MEDICAL BOARD TO HAVE THEIR OWN
COMPLAINT PRIORITIZATION SYSTEM
BUT IT'S DIFFERENT IN THE
OSTEOPATHIC MEDICAL BOARD. AND
OTHER HEALTHCARE RELATED BOARD.
I AM CALLING ON YOU TO DEATH AND
- CODE AND I'M THAT THE- AND A
TOPIC YOU SEE A COMPELLING
PARTICIPATION SYSTEM. THAT WOULD
OUR THAT WE PLAY TO GO TO INVEST
. PLEASE INCLUDE THE REQUIRED
FROM. IN INTEREST AND THE DCA.
HIGHLIGHTS SYSTEM AND THE THANK
BILL WE ASKED THE FAMILY EQUAL
IN AND FORCE THEM. THE YOU FOR A
ME TO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
COMMENTS. NEXT PLEASE. WE'RE ONE
NUMBER EIGHTY PLEASE GO AHEAD.
OUR GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
MICHELLE AND I AM EAGER TO LEARN
I AM NOT. I AM A CERTIFIED
SURGICAL TECHNOLOGIST AND I AM A
MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN IN
INTERNAL MECHANICAL THE VISION
AND MISSION IN LOS ANGELES
COUNTY- I AM CALLING IN TO
COMMENT REGARDING THE DEATH
APRIL BALLANTINE. THIS WAS A
PREVENTABLE DEATH- AND SO
BASICALLY WHAT IT IS THAT I WANT
TO SHARE IS THAT RACISM IS THE
ROOT CAUSE. OF THESE BUDGET
PREVENTABLE. PATRICK AMONG BLACK
WOMEN. AND I WANT BRING TO THE-
OF THE BOARD. DID IN CALIFORNIA
AT THE MUCH OF THE UNITED STATES
BLACKBIRDING PEOPLE EXPERIENCED
THE HIGHEST RATES OF MATERNAL
MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY OF ANY
RACIAL OR ETHNIC GROUP. EVIDENCE
POINTS TO IMPLICIT BIAS AND
RACISM NOT RACE AT THE KEY
BECAUSE OF DISPARITIES IN
MATERNAL AND MATERNAL MATERNITY
CARE AND MATERNAL OUTCOMES FOR
BLACK AMERICAN PEOPLE.
CALIFORNIA DIGNITY IN PREGNANCY
AND CHILDBIRTH ACT SB FIVE FOUR
SIXTY FOUR AUTHORED BY STATE
SENATOR HOLLY MITCHELL TOOK
EFFECT IN JANUARY TWENTY TWENTY.
AND IT AIMS TO REDUCE PREGNANCY
RELATED PREVENTABLE GAS. ELEUSIS
AND APPROPRIATE NOW BEEN. IT
REQUIRES YOUR EMAIL SERVICE. AT
HOSPITALS IN ALTERNATIVE CENTER
UNDERGO BASED. HIS OFFICE
CALIFORNIA GENERAL ROBERT
INSURING COOPER. CONTRARY TO
WHAT MOST OF. ISN'T ABOUT BLACK
WOMEN NOT GETTING CARE. NOT PRE
EXISTING CONDITIONS NOT ABOUT
LOWER EDUCATION OR INCOME LEVEL
. IF THE PRICE OF THE NARRATIVE
YOU ARE GUILTY- OF VICTIM
BLAMING AND YOU ARE A PART OF
THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF THE
SOLUTION. BLACK COLLEGE EDUCATED
WOMEN OF HIGHER INCOME LEVELS
STILL DIE AT HIGHER RATES THAN
WHITE WOMEN THAT HAS NOT
HAPPENED LESS THAN A SCHOOL
DIPLOMA. AND IS A PRIMARY THE
PUBLIC DANGEROUS DOCTOR PENSIONS
AFTER THEM UPON BECAUSE CARE FOR
A FAMILY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
MA'AM NEXT PLEASE. NEXT WE HAVE
MY NUMBER. FIFTY SEVEN. HELLO
I'M TRY MILLER GET I'M A FAIRLY
ACCURATE NINE HERE TODAY MEMORY
MY ROW. PLEASE UNDERSTAND MY FOR
DEATH THE CLASS OF WHAT YOU'RE
COMPLAINT OUR LINE ISSUE THAT
PRIORITY CORRECT NEGLIGENCE AND
REPEATED NEGLIGENT ACTS
INVOLVING TO. BUT CENTRO AND
DESERVE TO BE TREATED EQUITABLY
AND BOTH LIFE AND DEATH. MY SON
DIED DURING A FEW. KEY STAND
BECAUSE HIS DOCTORS IGNORED LIKE
. MY SON HAD A NO GENETIC ENOUGH
ANOMALY AND NO GRAVE RISK BEING
PUT UNDER AND- BIGELOW MICHAEL
AND MY SON AT RISK BY PUTTING MY
SON UNDER GENERAL ANESTHESIA.
UNNECESSARY CAUSING HIS TRAGIC
DEATH AT TWO YEARS OLD. AFTER
MANY MAY HAVE DIRECTIONS I RUN
ROUND CONSENT FORM THAT I THINK
ENSURE WITH MEDICINAL UPON HIS
ANESTHESIOLOGISTS IN WEALTH
VERSED IN THE ANESTHETIC RISK
ASSOCIATED WITH MY FRIENDS THE
CIVIC IDENTITY. IS AN- REASSURED
ME THAT SHE WAS WELL AWARE OF
THE RISK ISSUE BEGAN TO ANTI
USED GAS ANESTHESIA AS AN
OUTPATIENT AFTER ONLY TREATING.
AFTER ONLY TESTING HIS HEART
RATE. I WATCHED MY SON GOING TO
FAIL CARDIAC ARREST AT HIS BODY
INTERACTED. WITH THE GENERAL
ANESTHESIA. MY SON WALKED
THROUGH THE HOUSE EXIDE TO TELL
ME ABOUT SANTA CLAUS AS HE WENT
DOWN THE HALLWAY. AND FIFTEEN
MINUTES LATER HE WAS DEAD. HE
WOULD NOT HAVE DIED IF HIS
MEDICAL CARE WAS APPROPRIATE FOR
HIS MEET. HIS NEEDS. BROWN'S
DEATH MAY HAVE BEEN TAKEN
SERIOUSLY HIS DEATH IS NOT
SUBJECT TO A PROTOCOL WHICH DID
NOT APPLY TO HIM. BUT WAS USING
CONSIDERING FURTHER
INVESTIGATION OF HIS DEATH. MY
SON'S DEATH WAS NEVER FULLY OR
ADEQUATELY INVESTIGATING. MY
COMPLAINT AGAINST THE FANTASY
THE COLLEGES WAS DISMISSED WITH
NO TRANSPARENCY AND NO INPUT
FROM ME. WE ARE CALLING ON THIS
COMMITTEE TO GIVE US THE RIGHT
TO COMPLAIN INTERVIEW BEFORE
DEATH. COMPLAINTS ARE DISMISSED
. TODAY I HEARD DISCUSSION ABOUT
BOTH THE ANESTHETIC
ACCOUNTABILITY AND IMPLICIT
BIAS. MY SON'S CASE IS AN
EXAMPLE OF BOTH THE LACK OF AN
ANESTHETIC ACCOUNTABILITY. AND
HOW IMPLICIT BIAS IN THE BOARD
MAY HAVE PLAYED A PART IN
REVEALING HIS DEATH. CHEN MY
VOICE IS TAKEN AWAY DURING. HIS
CARE MY VOICE IS. TAKEN AWAY IN
HIS. WE NEEDED TO PAY. REVISED
POSTED AND PROFESSION CODE
SUNSET. ADOPTED YOU SEE A
COMPANY VERIFICATIONS AS- THAT
OTHER HEALTHCARE BOARD YOU. IT
CLEAR CUT IF WE HAVE A DEATH
CAMP IN MUST GO TO. US TO. I
WOULD ALL ASK YOU TAKE IT A STEP
FURTHER. AND MAKE SURE THAT
THOSE INVESTIGATIONS ARE
EQUITABLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU MA'AM I'M SORRY FOR
YOUR LOSS AND- PRESHEAF YOUR
COMMENTS- NEXT PLEASE BY THE WAY
WE'RE- RAPIDLY APPROACHING FOR
FIVE HOURS- IN THE SEAT HERE SO
I'D ASK YOU TO BE BRIEF IF YOU
CAN. THANKS PLEASE. MY NUMBER.
SEVENTY SIX- HELLO CAN YOU HEAR
ME YES MA'AM PERFECTLY PLEASE
PROCEED. ARE THERE MY NAME IS
KIMBERLY TERMINAL FROM LOS
ANGELES MOVE ON. TO MY WATCH
STUFF I COVER FOR MEDICAL
BATTERIES DURING THE DELIVERY OF
MY STOCK. THANK YOU WILL FOREVER
HAUNT ME WOULD HAVE BEEN THE
HAPPIEST DAY OF MY LIFE MY
BIGGEST NIGHTMARE ALL CAUGHT ON
VIDEOTAPE. MY DOCTOR WITHOUT
MAKING. AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARY
PERFORMED IN THE YARD. WHEN I
SAW THIS IS THAT IS A FEELING
NOT CAUGHT ME I HAD THE THIRD. I
CALLED NO BUT NO APPEARED ME
NOTHING HELP I HAVE YOU CAN'T BE
AND I. HARM FOR MY- DOES NOT
STOP WOMEN IDEA THE GIFT OF
GIVING BIRTH THAT ARE- HE'S NOT
CONSIDERED TO GET WHERE YOU KNOW
THAT. OUR PLEASE REGARD WE DON'T
GIVE CONSENT. AND THEY VIOLATE
IN DAMAGES ANYWAY WHEN DID
GIVING BIRTH TO A BABY IN
CALIFORNIA BECOME SO DANGEROUS.
AFTER SUFFERING HARM WE THANK
THE MEDICAL BOARD FOR
ACCOUNTABILITY WITH THE
INTENTION OF HELPING OTHER WOMEN
FROM SUFFERING THE SAME CAR.
WELL LET'S LEAVE THAT WHEN WE
SEND IN OUR CONSUMER COMPLAINT
THAT IT WILL BE ACTED ON BUT IN
. THE MAJORITY OF CASES THERE
ARE NOT. WE BEEN IN OUR- WE
DON'T HEAR FROM AGAIN UNTIL. WE
RECEIVED A CALL SANDERS THE
LETTER WE ARE CALLING ON YOU TO
GIVE THE RIGHT ONE IN. IF
SOMETHING IT DOES. SAMMY DID NOT
HAVE THE RIGHT. TO PROVIDE INPUT
AND HAVING FUN WITH FUN FOR THE
BOARD TO FOR THE CONSUMER
COMPLAINT IS DISMISSED. A FOURTH
OF THE COMMISSION WITHIN THE
INITIAL PROCESS. YES THERE IS NO
COMMUNICATION WITH US. THIS
NEEDS TO CHANGE. ALL WE WANT.
ALRIGHT IN. THE ENFORCEMENT
PROCESS WE ARE CALLING ON YOU TO
INCLUDE. IN THE- BELT. THAT THAT
. BODILY INJURY COMPLAINT MUST
BE REFERRED INVESTIGATION LIKE
THE UP I THINK. MEDICAL BOARD
AND OTHER HEALTHCARE RELATED FOR
THE MEDICAL BOARD AT SOME POINT
AGREEMENT AND THEY NEED TO FIND
A WAY. TO AMEND THE CURRENT CODE
TO MAKE THE PROFIT. AND YOU CAN
MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND ENSURE THAT
STAFF AND HOSPITALS ARE NO
DIFFERENT THAN THAT ANYWHERE IN
CALIFORNIA. MAKE SURE THAT OUR
DAD AND OUR LIVES ARE VALUED AND
MAKE THE CHANGES NECESSARY TO
MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT FROM
THAT. THANK YOU RECIPE. FOR
BRITAIN AT A LOWER. THANK YOU
THINK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT WILL
KNOW THAT. I THE PERSONAL IMPACT
STORIES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO
US. OF THE- COMMENTS ABOUT THE
CHANGES ALL SOUND THE SAME SO IT
SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE TREATING THE
SAME TALKING POINTS. I THINK YOU
COULD BE SHORTER. ON THOSE AND I
WOULD CERTAINLY ASK YOU TO DO
SO. NEXT PLEASE. REPUBLICAN LINE
NUMBER FIFTY SIX. YEAH HELLO MY
NAME IS CAROL ROUNDLY DOWN ON A
VOLUNTEER WITH THE CONSUMER
WATCHDOG GROUP AND I'M CALLING
FROM REDWOOD CITY. MY HUSBAND
MICHAEL BRADLEY DIED DUE TO
MEDICAL NEGLIGENCE. HIS INJURIES
WERE SO SEVERE THAT I WAS FORCED
TO MAKE A DECISION TO END HIS
LIFE. I FILED A COMPLAINT WITH
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC HEALTH IN MY COMPLAINT
WAS REVIEWED. AS PART OF THEIR-
COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION PROCESS.
I WAS VAN INTERVIEW BECAUSE OF
THE INTERVIEW I WAS ABLE TO
PROVIDE FASTER AND GIVE THE-
DETAILS OF THE EVENTS THAT HAD
OCCURRED SO WITH THE AGENCY KNEW
EXACTLY WHY ON FILE. GREAT THE
OUTCOME OF THE INVESTIGATION
REVEALED. AMONG OTHER FINDINGS
SUB STANDARD QUALITY OF CARE AND
LEVEL FOR IMMEDIATE JEOPARDY A
FULL COPY OF THE INVESTIGATION
WAS FORWARDED TO THE CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL BOARD FOR REVIEW AND
INVESTIGATION AS IT RELATED TO
THE LICENSE FEE INVOLVED. MONTHS
LATER I RECEIVED WHAT RESEMBLED
A FORM LETTER FROM THE BOARD IT
STATED THAT THE BOARD HAD A HIGH
FLOOR TO BE REACHED BEFORE
TAKING ACTION AGAINST THE
LICENSEE. WHAT THIS IMPLIES
THAT. THE IMAGINABLE SUFFERING
ENDURED BY MY HUSBAND AND HIS
EVENTUAL DEATH DID NOT REACH
THEIR BAR. THE LICENSE FEE WAS
NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE NOR ANY
DISCIPLINARY ACTION TAKEN. FOR
FAILED TO CONDUCT THEIR OWN
INVESTIGATION WHICH WOULD HAVE
INCLUDED FIRSTHAND IMPACT
INFORMATION FROM THE HELP
THEY'VE CHOSEN TO ENTER IN THE-
BECAUSE OF THE- BOARD INACTION
OR I IN MY OPINION. EXCUSE ME
BECAUSE OF THE BOARD'S
AFTERNOONS OR IN MY OPINION IN
ACTION. I HAVE BEEN LEFT WITH
THE FEELING THAT JUSTICE FOR
MICHAEL WAS NOT THIRD. ALSO I'M
. A PUBLIC MEMBER I'M- A WINDOW
FIVE WAY AS MEDICAL NEGLIGENCE
AND I'M A REGISTERED NURSE
UNLIKE THE VICE PRESIDENT'S
OPINION BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE
WITH THE BOARD. I KNOW THAT THE
BOARD PROTECT LICENSEES AND NOT
THE PUBLIC THANK YOU. THANK YOU
MA'AM SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS WE
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS NEXT
PLEASE. THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBER
NINETY FOUR. MY NUMBER NINETY
FOR YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HELLO
HELLO. I'M FINE PLEASE PROCEED.
OKAY I WILL CALL IT MY NAME IS
MICHAEL MACK AND I'M CALLING ON
BEHALF OF MY FELLOW IN APRIL
BALENTINE WHO LOST HER LIFE AT
THE CANNELLA HOSPITAL. BECAUSE
THE MEDICAL NEGLECT BY THE
DOCTOR THE DOCTOR WHERE. ON HER
BOTH FOR TWENTY FOUR HOURS MY
CODING WITH THE USE. AIN'T A
COMPLAINING THAT SHE WAS IN PAIN
THIS IS HER FIRST HIGH WILL.
THAT HURT HER CHILD DO YOU HEAR
WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU GET A
CHANCE TO TOUCH HER CHILD OR
YOUR CHILD HE WAITED HER WHOLE
LIFE PREPARED HER WHOLE LIFE
PERHAPS TO BE A MOTHER. AND SHE
WAS ROBBED OF THAT BECAUSE THE
DOCTOR WANTED TO ENJOY HER LIFE
IF THEY TO DO HER JOB IF THE
LINDA DOCTOR ARRIVE TWENTY FOUR
HOURS LATER I COULD DO WITH
COMPLAINING TO THE NURSES. WHO
HAVE A CALL THE DOCTOR BUT THE
STATE IT THAT THE DOCTOR WILL
CUT. OUT IF WE CALL HER. SO IN
OTHER WORDS. IT WOULD DISCOURAGE
ANYTHING INDEED SHE END UP
LOSING THEIR LIFE. WE GET THE
BLESSING OF OUR OTHER COUSIN WHO
CAME OUT OF HER HER BABY.
HOWEVER WORK ACTED IN REQUESTING
THAT THE COMMITTEE. ALLOW AND
HAVE THE BOARD INVESTIGATE DR
GLENN ALEC. AND WE WON HER
LICENSE REVOKED OR SUSPENDED. A
THOROUGH INVESTIGATION BECAUSE
NOW AS YOU HAVE HEARD SO MANY
CASES. AMERICANS ARE LOSING
THEIR LIFE TRAGICALLY. AND A LOT
OF IT CAN BE PREVENTED YOU HAVE
THE POWER. AND WE'RE RELYING ON
YOU COULD DO YOUR JOB. SO WE
PLEAD WITH YOU TO PLEASE HELP
BUT- AND WE THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING BUT PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE TAKE THIS
SERIOUSLY. BECAUSE ABOUT HER
DAUGHTER HAS NO MOTHER. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SIR NEXT PLEASE.
WE HAVE A LINE NUMBER SEVENTY
SEVEN. MY NAME. HELLO HELLO
PLEASE PROCEED. HELLO MY NAME'S
MEGAN DAVID ELIANE AND I'M A
VOLUNTEER WITH CONSUMER
WATCHDOG- I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE
SOME OF MY STORY MY REALITY IS
THAT I ONLY GOT THE HOLD MY SON.
WHEN HE WAS TAKING IT BUT- HE
ONLY LIVED EIGHTEEN HOURS
BECAUSE OF THE MATERNAL.
NEGLIGENCE AT THE HANDS OF
MULTIPLE DOCTORS. HOW WE LOOK
THE MEDICAL BOARD FOR
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRY TO FILE A
COMPLAINT WITH THEM. WELL WE
WILL CONTINUOUSLY TOLD NOW MY
SON WAS ARE VERY GOOD THAT YOU
DID WHO LIVED AND DIED. AND LET
ME TELL YOU MY SON WAS WAY MORE
THAN THAT- CLIMAT YOU ARE
LEGISLATORS THANK YOU IN THE IN
THE SENSE THAT BILL A REQUIRED
INTERVIEW WITH THE COMPLAINT BOY
THAT THANK. NAY WE HAVE FIRSTLY
BEEN INTERVIEWED. IF WE HAD BEEN
INTERVIEWED THAN MAYBE THE BOARD
MIGHT HAVE ADMITTED NOT ON THE-
ADMITTED WHY MY SON WAS DENIED A
COMPLAINT- OUT PRIVATE MY SON
WAS ARMED BY TWENTY FIVE YEAR
REPEAT OFFENDER DOCTOR WHO DID
NOTHING FOR HIS MOTHER WHEN SHE
REPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL PUBLIC.
FIGURE COMPLICATIONS. THE
MOTHER'S PLEAS WERE IGNORED BY
HER- BE A NUMBER OF TIMES
INCLUDING DURING HER POST.
HOSPITALIZATION VISIT HIS MOTHER
DIED AND MY SON HAD TO FACE A
POSTMORTEM DETECTION ALONE AND
FOLLOWING HIS BIRTH HE SUFFERED
A CASCADE OF LIFE THREATENING
ERRORS. THE IS THE MATERNAL
HEALTH CARE THAT WE HAVE IN
BAKERSFIELD. CALLING ON YOU ARE
LEGISLATORS TO HELP US. PLEASE
INCLUDE IN THE SUNSET BILL
STALLED THAT THE BANK MUST BE
INVESTIGATED BY MAKING THE
CHANGES NEEDED TO THE BOARD. FOR
THE BOARD. OF THE BOARD CAN
ADOPT THE DCA COMPLAINT
PRIORITIZATION SYSTEM THAT THE
OSTEOPATHIC MEDICAL BOARD MUST
FOLLOW FINALLY WE ARE ASKING YOU
TO ADD THAT ON THE BILL. CASE IN
THAT EIGHT OH FIVE REPORT HAS
BEEN RECEIVED DUE TO. LOTS OF
HOSPITAL PRIVILEGES BE POSTED ON
THE POSITION PROFILE. MY SON THE
DOCTOR HAD LOTS. WHO DID THAT TO
DIFFERENT HOSPITALS AND WE DON'T
HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW. NOW I
THINK IF THE HOSPITAL DOES NOT
TRUST A DOCTOR NOT DETERMINATIVE
PRIVILEGES. I BELIEVE THAT THEY
DID BY THAT IS VITAL INFORMATION
THAT THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THERE'S
ENOUGH. OKAY SO DOCTORS ARE. THE
BIGGEST ADOPTERS THAT WE'RE
SPEAKING OUT ARE NOT ARE REPEAT
OFFENDERS THE CURRENT COMPLAINT
SYSTEM IS NOT EQUITABLE. PLEASE
MAKE THE CHANGE AND KNOW THAT
YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
SAVING BABIES LIVES. ALL NOT
DENYING BABY RIGHT IN
INVESTIGATION THANK YOU. THANK
YOU NEXT PLEASE. X. WE WILL
PROVIDE NUMBER EIGHTY ONE. NINE
EVELYN MARTINEZ I AM FROM THEN
WHAT AND I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH
CONSUMER WATCHDOG I AM A MOM WHO
FOUGHT FOR MY FIVE YEAR OLD
SUBJECT. I LOST I LOST MY SON
WHEN HIS DOCTORS WILL NOT LISTEN
TO THE ADVICE AND WARNING
LETTERS OF THE SPECIALIST.
AGAINST MY CONSENT THEY
PROCEEDED WITH ANOTHER MRI WITH
CONTRAST. RIGHT MY FRIENDS
ORGANS AND BURNED HIS ANKLES
FINGERS AND TEETH. AND COST ME
EXTRA PREMIUM ALL RIGHT. MY. SON
DIED FIFTEEN DAYS LATER. I
BELIEVE THE MEDICAL MEGA OF THE
- AND TEMPERATURE. IT FOR
DEFINES CORRUPTION OF. WE
DESERVE A- FOR A LOT MORE AND
THE TWO TO COME OUT PEOPLE RIGHT
NOW. THE BOARD TO INTERVIEW THE-
BEFORE THE FIFTH THAT CAN THANK
YOU THANK YOU NEXT PLEASE. NEXT
A WATER LINE NUMBER SEVENTY
FIVE. HI MY NAME IS. NOT AND I'M
A VICTIM AS WELL AS PATIENT
ADVOCATES- THAN A ROCK THANK YOU
FOR BEING THE ONLY HUNTING
AROUND. TOO WITH ANGELA. I
APPRECIATE THAT. AT THE
FRIGHTENING TO THINK ABOUT HOW
MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. HAVE
SUFFERED AND DIED BECAUSE OF THE
HARM BECAUSE- IT IS THE LAST OF
AFFECTED DISCIPLINE. THAT IS
IMPOSED ON DOCTORS WHO HAVE
COMMITTED EGREGIOUS ANNEX
NEGLIGENT ACT. SOMETIMES OVER
OVER AGAIN. UPLOAD WITH THE
EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME IT
TAKES TO GET EVEN LIKE
DISCIPLINE. IMPOSED ON THESE BAD
ACTORS. MAKE MEDICAL BOARD A
LAUGHABLE EXCUSE FOR PUBLIC
PROTECTION. MOST RESIDENTS
INCLUDING THIRTY DOCTORS THINK
THAT THE MEDICAL BOARD WILL KEEP
THEM SAFE FROM AN ETHICAL. ISSUE
PAKISTAN'S. THAT IS HIGHLY
INACCURATE. ASSEMBLY THAT IS
WHAT MY POSITION HUSBAND AND I
LEARNED. MY CASE WHICH TOOK OVER
FIVE YEARS. TO COME TO ANY
CONCLUSION- INCLUDED FOR
COMPLAINTS FROM PATIENTS WHO
SUFFERED MEASURABLE HARM. ONE
DEATH. LAWSUITS WITH SETS WHICH
BOTH SETTLED FOR OVER SEVEN
FIGURES. AND JUST FIGURED AND
TRAUMATIZED PATIENTS. YET DR
LATER ONLY IF. THREE YEARS
PROBATION IS LEFT THE CONTINUE
PRACTICING MEDICINE. PATIENTS DO
NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE WARNED. THE
MEDICAL BOARD DO NOT CONSIDER
MOUNDS OF EVIDENCE TWENTY HAS A
MAIN POINT MONEY. OF WRONGDOING
EMITTED BY THE DOCTOR HIMSELF.
AND HE RECEIVED DISCIPLINE FAR
BELOW. THAT THE MEDICAL BOARD
ONE STANDARD AGAIN. DR IS
PROTECTED HE DATE IS CORRECT
WHEN THEY SAY PATIENT EVIDENCE
IS NOT CONSIDERED. TO COMMENT ON
THE VICTIM'S STATEMENT DOCTORS
DELIGHT RESPONSE TO COMPLAINTS
AND THEY KNOW THIS. THE VICTIM
NEVER THESE LISTEN DOCTOR RIGHT.
AS RESPONSE MY FAITH AND WE
THOUGHT BECAUSE WE DID. NOT
RECEIVE THAT IN DISCOVERY IT WAS
1100% ALL. PLEASE MAKE THE
MEDICAL BOARD INTERVIEWED VICTIM
. WE NEED TRÊN. ON THIS IS THE-
OF JUSTICE. THE STATE OF WHEN
YOU HAVE STATE LIKE CALIFORNIA
WITH THE STATE AGENCY CHARGED
WITH PROTECTING PATIENT. PROTECT
DOCTORS DANGEROUS DOCTORS
INSTEAD. IS DOCTOR HOPKINS
REFERRED TO THIS IS NOT JUST THE
CRITICISM IT IS THE TRUTH. IN
ADDITION RIGHT- RIGHT- WITH
VIOLATED MY RIGHTS- IN BUSINESS
AND PROFESSIONS CODE TWENTY
THREE THIRTY WORKS COMPLETELY
IGNORED. COMPLAINTS AGAINST THAT
THAT COULD SAVE THE COMPLAINANT
AGAINST LIKE WOULD BE IF THE
BULLS- BY THE SHOULD BE NOTIFIED
OF THAT PROPOSED BE TAKEN
AGAINST THE LICENSEE NOT ONLY
WAS I NOT NOTIFIED OF ANY
PROPOSED ACTION. ONLY NOTIFIED
WHEN THE CASE IS CLOSED AND TO
ADD INSULT TO INJURY I HAVE TO
LOOK UP THE DISCIPLINE MYSELF. I
RECEIVED A CONDESCENDING LETTER
THAT AND I COULD MAKE A VICTIM
STATEMENT EDIFY THE BOARD. AFTER
THE CASE WAS CLOSED THIRTY THREE
IT'S TIME TO RETHINK THE INNER
WORKINGS OF THE SPORT IN TURN IT
UPSIDE DOWN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
LIFE OUR FAMILIES LIVE. IN YOUR
FAMILY LINE I URGE THIS
COMMITTEE. LEAVE WITHIN AND NOT
BE FOOLED BY THE CRICKETING
RHETORIC RHETORIC. YOU'VE HEARD.
FROM SOME OF THE MEDICAL BOARD
MEMBERS. RADICAL CHANGES MUST BE
MADE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM
I ASSURE YOU WE TAKE YOUR
COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
SERIOUSLY. LET ME JUST SAY THIS
I'VE BEEN IN A HEARING ONE OR
THE OTHER CONTINUOUSLY SINCE TEN
THIRTY THIS MORNING. AND THE
PARTICIPANTS HERE HAVE BEEN HERE
SINCE ONE THIRTY- WHICH IS NOW
ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE HOURS.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TERMINATE
PUBLIC COMMENT AT SIX FORTY FIVE
THAT'S ANOTHER FIFTEEN MINUTES.
SO IF YOU'RE WAITING IN THE
QUEUE AND YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION
OR POINT YOU WANNA MAKE TO US- I
WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU DO IT
BRIEFLY. OTHERWISE SOME WILL NOT
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
MODERATOR NEXT PLEASE. THEY HAVE
LINE WHAT DO YOU. WANT TO POINT
OUT TO YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HELLO
HELLO. HELLO PLEASE PROCEED WE
HEAR YOU PERFECTLY ALL. I'M
SORRY THIRTY IT MY NAME IS OUR
SENIOR SAILOR I'M FOR
BAKERSFIELD I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH
THE CONSUMER WATCHDOG. I'M JUST
GOING TO MAKE IT SHORT LIKE YOU
REQUESTED THANKS I HAVE THEN-
WENT TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AT
APRIL TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE.
AT BECAUSE HE HAD PASSED OUT AT
HOME HE WENT BY THE AMBULANCE TO
THE ER. AND TWO HOURS LATER HE
WAS DEAD- I KNEW SOMETHING WAS
WRONG FIVE FILED WITH A
COMPLAINT WITH THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC. HEALTH
THROUGH THEIR INVESTIGATION THEY
DISCOVERED THAT MY HUSBAND J. B.
TAYLOR SENIOR WAS ADMINISTERED.
A MEDICATION THEY CALLED THEIR
CARDIAC ISSUES THE DOCTOR WAS
AWARE OF THAT MY HUSBAND HAD
PARKING ISSUES. THROUGH THE IV
MY HUSBAND RECEIVING MEDICATION
IN THIRTY TO FORTY FIVE MINUTES
LATER HE WAS DEAD. I'M GOING TO
GET DOWN AFTER MY HUSBAND DIED
THE SAME ER DOCTOR MISDIAGNOSED
A THREE YEAR OLD CHILD AND SENT
HER HOME WITH A RUPTURED
APPENDIX. I'M ASKING YOU GUYS
WHATEVER POWER YOU HAVE TO
CHANGE THE MEDICAL BOARD PLEASE
DO THAT THOSE DOCTORS THERE WERE
TALKING- FOR THE MEDICAL BOARD.
THEY WERE JUST TALKING WITH
FOLKS ARE WE JUST ASK THAT YOU
HELP THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM
AND I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS NEXT
PLEASE. LINE ONE NUMBER LINE
NUMBER ONE- FOR YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HI THERE YOU KNOW HELD A
BRAND WITH A WHITE SHIRT
ADVOCACY CAN YOU HEAR ME YOUR
SPAM PERFECTLY. THANK YOU
SENATOR OFF. I AM GOING TO GET
MY OKAY MANY FORTY. UP BECAUSE
WE ARE FROM OUR ORGANIZATION AT.
THAT EARLIER- BUT I AM GOING TO
USE THAT THE CHAIRS AND MEMBERS
OF THE BMC COMMITTEE I NAY THE
AXLE AND RIGHT THINKING PLEAD IN
THE SUNSET REVIEW LANGUAGE THAT
GIVES THE VICTIM OF BOYS AND THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION PATH
MANY AND THEIR- OWN EXPERT.
WITNESSES UNDER THE CALIFORNIA
AND OTHER THAN FIVE IT'S SAFE
AND FAIR DEALING AND TREATMENT
THE CLIENT AND THE UP TO THREE
PARTY IN THE DELIBERATIONS
RATHER THAN I FINING THEM. I
THANK YOU FOR THAT BUT THE ONE
REQUEST I HAVE IS WE HAVE BEEN
TRYING TO GET A MEETING WITH
YOU. ON THIS ISSUE AND I'D LOVE
TO TELL YOU THE REST OF MY- MY
OUR PUBLIC COMMENT IN A MEETING
WITH YOU THAT I WILL RECAP YOUR
OFFICE AGAIN. WE'LL TRY TO SET
THAT UP THANK YOU FOR YOUR
COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
NEXT PLEASE. ONE ONE ELSE. THE
LINE IS A- IN A ROUGH NUMBER AB
LEGISLATOR WHO WILL BE PRETEND
HEAR FROM THE OF US IN FRONT
LINE TO OUR- FIVE AT A- DAILY
ENTER. A MAJOR LOOK LIKE. A
COMPLAINER C. WALL BY THE CASH
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION AN
ORGANIZATION WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE
IS TO PROTECT DOCTORS INTEREST
THAT THE PERIL OF THE PEOPLE OF
THE STATE. IT APPEARS THAT THE
BIC HAS BECOME MORE IMPORTANT
THE LEGISLATURES TO WORRY ABOUT
THE POTENTIAL DONATIONS FROM
WITH THE IMPACT RATHER THAN
FINALLY FIXED THE SURRENDERS THE
DAMAGED AND DAMAGING NOT A- WAR.
VICTIMS AND ADVOCATES HAVE BEEN
COMING TO THE MEDICAL BOARD AND
BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE FOR
DECADES AND YOU'RE STILL NOT
LISTENING TO US THE PEOPLE ARE
STILL BEING ARM. AND THE MEDICAL
BOARD IS STILL LETTING THOSE BAD
DOCTORS GET AWAY WITH THAT. THIS
IS MY FOURTH OR FIFTH SUNSET
REVIEW AND NOTHING'S CHANGED.
YOU'RE ALSO WORRIED ABOUT
DOCTORS MORE THAN PROTECTING THE
PEOPLE OF THE STATE. WE FINALLY
HAVE A BRAVE MEDICAL BOARD
MEMBER WHO HAS COME FORWARD WITH
EMPHATIC PROOF OF HOW THE SPORT
IS FAILING AND- LEGISLATORS. IN
MAY ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN OUR
POWER WORK AND FINALLY HELPING
US PROVE WHY THE SPORT IS THE
DISMAL FAILURE. GIVING HIM JUST
SEVEN MINUTES THE DAY IS THIS
THE FLAP IN THE FACE OF ALL THE
VICTIMS. WHO HAVE SUFFERED AT
THE HANDS OF BAD DOCTORS DOCTORS
WHO GIVE GOOD DOCTORS A BAD
NAME. WILL IT TAKE A SIXTY
MINUTES INVESTIGATION TO GET YOU
TO FINALLY LISTEN TO THE FRUIT.
WE WORK HARD TO COME UP WITH THE
BARE MINIMUM LIST OF THE THINGS
THAT WOULD PROTECT THAT ASIANS
FROM BAD DOCTORS. AND THE
MEDICAL BOARD SHOT IT DOWN IN
FAVOR OF THEIR OWN POLITICALLY
CHARGED. AND CMA APPROVED LET.
GENERAL ROCK. PLEASE THAT A
FACTOR POLITICS AND THINK OF THE
PEOPLE OF THE STATE YOU'VE BEEN
GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PROTECT. DEMOCRACY NOT JUST
DOCTORS THE MEDICAL. BOARD
PURPOSES TO PROTECT PATIENTS NOT
DOCTORS IT'S RIGHT IN THEIR
MISSION STATEMENT. LISTEN TO THE
ADVOCATE LISTEN TO DJ WALK AND
DON'T MAKE SB COMING TO THESE
ISSUES THE PRESS. I'M PROVING
YOU ALL DON'T CARE ABOUT. I HAVE
NOTHING MORE TO LOSE I WILL
FIGHT FOR PROPER MEDICAL BOARD
UNTIL THE DAY I DIE. MY MOTHER
AND DISABLED SISTER. DIED FROM
MEDICAL ERRORS. I HAD THREE
FAILED EARLIER. MYSELF AND
MEDICAL BOARD CLOSE MICHAEL. OUT
OF. AND NOW MY- IS NEED OF A
LONG. BECAUSE HERE DOCTOR.
IGNORE HIM FOR OVERREACH. WHY
HIS LINE BECAME. IN MASSIVE UPS
TISSUE. I HAVE A NO MEDICAL. THE
PLANE PILED ON. BEHALF GOOD.
POINT DO WHEN THE FOR CLOSES THE
MAJORITY OF PLAY RIGHT BECAUSE
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A MONEY
FUNCTION PROPERLY. THESE ARE
LIKE AND DEATH ISSUES WERE TO
ABOUT OUR HEALTH. THIS IS NOT
YOU CAN YOUR POLITICAL. OVER
LIKE HIGH SPEED RAIL- JEREMY YOU
CAN TRANSPORT OUR EFFORTS ALSO
HE WON I BELIEVE THE LIVES OF
PEOPLE LIKE CHRISTINA LAUGHLIN
OVER THE VICTIMS BUT WE'LL KEEP
GOING TO THE PRESS. AND PROVING
EVERYONE WRONG WHO CHOOSES TO
SUPPRESS THE TRUTH THAT THIS
MEDICAL BOARD IS A DIFFERENT
BALL FAILURE. DUE TO THE
PRESENCE OF THE CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL. ASSOCIATION THANK YOU
SO MUCH. I COULD MAKE A BUT I'M
NOT SO NOW PLEASE. MY NUMBER ONE
TEN YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI YES MY
NAME OF MY KEESHA MACK I AM
BECAUSE THEN IT'LL VALENTINE AND
THE LEADER OF CHECKATRADE
CAMPAIGN. OUR BROTHERS THOUGH
YOU OUT THERE DETAILS THE
HORRIFIC DETAILS OF MY HUSBAND'S
DEATH- BUT JUST TO REITERATE THE
STOCK- DR GLEN ALLEN. HAS BEEN
PRACTICING AND WE DID NOT KNOW
THAT APRIL DID NOT NOTICE IT FOR
TRUSTED THIS DOCTOR. SHE'D BEEN
PRACTICING NEGLIGENTLY FOR YEARS
AFTER A BOOK **** IN MANY
COMPLAINTS ABOUT HER BETTER COME
OUT AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT
SHE HAS TREATED THEM VERY CORD
WE- DONE THINGS BACK BECAUSE-
YOU KNOW PEOPLE NOT TO HAVE.
BABIES ANYMORE AND THEN NOW.
HEARING APRIL STORY AND BEING A
PART OF THE STORY AND TO KNOW
THAT MY FAMILY IS NOW SUFFERING
AT THE HANDS OF THE NEGLIGENCE
DR- WE FIRST WANT TO THANK THE
BOARD. AND THE REVIEW COMMITTEE
FOR EVEN LISTENING AND HALF OF
THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE
INVESTIGATION ALL OF THAT BUT I
WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT
STATUS. HEARTENING TO HEAR THE
STORY OF ALL THE COMPLAINTS OUT
OF THIS OUT AND HOW THEY HAVE
BEEN DISMISSED AND I CAN ONLY.
RIGHT TO GOD THAT IT DOES NOT
HAPPEN. OKAY WE ARE NOT ONLY
FIGHTING FOR EQUAL VALENTINE WHO
LOST HER LIFE NEGLIGENTLY ACT
THIRTY ONE YEARS OLD WE ARE
FIGHTING FOR OTHER BLACK BROWN'S
BUDGET. DID NOT DETER WITH THE
CARE THAT A FOUR SPEED AT THE
HANDS OF THE- PROJECT DOCTOR DR
GRANT ALLEN. SHE CAPITALIZE ON
THAT THE IGNORANT OF BLACK AND
BROWN. WE WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE
AWARE OF IT ALTHOUGH SHE IS
BLACK. ALL INFO AS KINFOLK AS WE
SAY IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE ACT
THE BOARD IN THE REVIEW
COMMITTEE TO CLEAVE THANK ARE
KATE AND INVESTIGATION VERY
SERIOUSLY. AND COULD NOT MAKE IT
INTO WILL BE APPLIED DISCIPLINE
AND HOPEFULLY THAT THE- THE
REPUTATION OF HER LIFE IN FACT
THE FACT DID BURKE AND NOT CAUSE
ANY MORE HARM AND DESTRUCTION.
TO OUR COMMUNITY WE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT. THANK YOU
MESSAGES. LINE NUMBER ONE ELEVEN
WANTED OPEN. HELLO THANK YOU YOU
HEAR ME. PERFECTLY OKAY I'M
SENATOR ROTH THANK YOU STAYING.
AND I'D TO RECALL MEET WITH YOU-
I'VE BEEN ROUTE ASKING FOR QUITE
A- I- I'M THE WOMAN SUSAN LAUREN
WHO IN TWO THOUSAND AND ELEVEN
WENT FOR MEDICALLY RECOMMENDED
BREAST REDUCTION. AND
SALZBURGER- STABBED ME DOZENS OF
TIMES AGAINST NEED CONSENT FOR
ANY MEDICAL JUSTIFICATION INTO
JOINTS MUSCLES HE REMOVED MY
ENTIRE BACKSIDE OF MY BODY FOR
ABSOLUTELY NO REASON- HE SHOULD
BE IN JAIL BUT HE CONTINUES TO
WORK- TEN DOCTORS INCLUDING FOR
PLASTIC SURGEONS SAID. WHAT
BURGER GIVEN THE HORRIFIC
DISABLING ASSAULT WITH NO
MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES AND
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT KERRY DO
BROS PARTLY COVER UP THE CRIME.
INVESTIGATION OF NOTHING THEY
DIDN'T TALK TO ANY OF MY DOCTORS
REAL DOCTORS THE REAL ETHICAL
ONES WHO EXAMINED ME WHO WROTE
THE LETTERS HE SENT THEM VIDEOS-
SO EIGHT. DISAGREE 1100% WITH-
DOCTOR WHAT CAN- HAWKINS. I
AGREE WITH TJ AND- I'VE WRITTEN
A PAPER CALLED THE- MY
PERCEPTION RESEARCH PAPER AND I
GET CONTACTED FROM WOMEN ALL
AROUND THE WORLD IT'S NOT JUST
WOMEN IN THIS CASE THAT I
UNDERSTAND IT IS IN ANOTHER
FIELD IN ANOTHER. SPECIAL PIZZA
BUT IT'S NOT JUST- ONE
ETHNICITY. AND IT'S ALSO MEN WHO
ARE HARM BUT FEMALES ACROSS THE
BOARD IN IN CAPS IN. LA- THE
OFFICE REPORTED THAT IN TWENTY
HI. IT WAS ALL WOMEN HUNDRED
FIRST NO MAN WHO WERE KILLED BY
A BLAST- BUT- THEY WERE UNDER
THE AGE LESS THAN FORTY EIGHT
HOURS TO FINISH BECAUSE I WANT.
NUMBER ONE TWELVE TO TALK BUT
I'LL JUST SAY THAT. I'M ASKING.
THE PLASTIC SURGEONS ARE DOING
DAM PROCEDURES- YOU REMOVE FAT
TISSUE AND IT CAUSES DISEASE
PROCESSES THIS IS CAUSED BY
SCIENCE. IF SCIENCE IS FACT IT'S
NOT A FEELING AND- I KNOW
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF
VICTIMS WHAT'S- AND THE DCA
NUMBERS STARS. ANYWAY I'M SORRY
BUT THE FOURTEENTH- OKAY OF
SOMETHING YOU KNOW LIKE THAT THE
GOING TO. IT'S TAKEN OFF THE
MARK. BUT WHAT CALIFORNIA'S
DOING BEST PROTECTING DOCTORS.
AND I'M GONNA DIE FROM THAT AND
I'M HEALTH CENTER LEVIN AND A
HALF YEARS SO I'M LOOKING
FORWARD TO MEETING WITH HIM AND
I DO REQUEST THAT WE MEET AS A
LOT OF THAT INFORMATION. FOR YOU
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
MA'AM NEXT PLEASE. MY NUMBER ONE
OH FIVE YOUR LINE IS OPEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. HELLO I AM. READY
THANK YOUNG I'M FROM SAN DIEGO.
IT'S NOT I AM A VOLUNTEER WITH
THE MY ONE THOUSAND. THIRTY
THREE IN MAY OF TWO THOUSAND
TWENTY ONE MY PROCEDURE WAS NOT.
ENABLED THROUGH LAST. WITH RIDE
LONGHORN AT THE TIME I HAVE NO
IDEA THAT I HAD NO IDEA MY
DOCTOR. HAD BEEN CHARGED WITH
MANSLAUGHTER NOBODY HAS TOLD ME
OR I DO FIND IT ANYWAY. BUT AT
THE BACK OF ANOTHER VEHICLE
WOMAN WHO DIED IN THE ORANGE
TABLE ONE THREE. TWO YEARS
BEFORE I TO SEE HIM AND HE HI. I
DO NOT KNOW THAT I WAS A SLIP. I
DID NOT KNOW THAT I WAS A
SURVIVOR OF EIGHT YEARS DR.
UNTIL FRIEND OF MINE TOLD ME THE
NEWS REPORT ABOUT A MANSLAUGHTER
CHARGE. THE BOARD KNEW THAT HE
WAS H. AS IN THE OUT OF HIM TO
PRACTICE WITH LITTLE RESTRICTION
. BUT I HAD NO RIGHT TO KNOW. SO
MY LIFE AND MY LIVELIHOOD OTHER
WOMEN DID NOT PROVIDE THAT I AM
DEAR WITH SOMEBODY. ARE YOU IN
MAKE CHANGES NECESSARY TO
STABILIZE. WE NEED A LEGAL RIGHT
AND ENFORCEMENT PROCESS I AM
CALLING ON YOU. GIVE ME. WHAT
ARE REQUIRED WITH THE FAMILY
BEFORE THE BOND IT IS. A
COMPLAINT TOO MANY. COMPLAIN
EITHER. WITH YOUR INTERVIEW.
HELLO INPUT FROM MY THE BOARD
HAS ALREADY FAILED ME BY NOT
PROVIDING THE INFORMATION. LATER
AND ALERTED ME OF THE PUBLIC AND
THE PUBLIC THAT I WAS. GOING
THROUGH A GREAT YOUR DOCTOR TO
PERFORM- JERRY ON THE I AM
ASKING. YOU OVER. REGULAR
READERS TO PRINT PLEASE HELP
PROVIDE THEIR INFORMATION WE
NEED. WE NEED. ALANINE CHARGES
AND MANSLAUGHTER LATE PATIENTS.
CHECK CARE TO BE INCLUDED AND
THAT DECISIONS PROFILE. WOULD
YOU WANT YOUR SPOUSE CHILDREN TO
HAVE SURGERY PERFORMED BY A
SURGEON WHO HAD BEEN CHARGED
WITH MANSLAUGHTER YOU DO NOT
HAVE THEY'LL HAVE THAT RIGHT
HELLO. YOU NEED TO MAKE THE
CHANGE FOR ALL WOMEN IN FRIENDLY
ABLE WILL HAVE LONG THEIR LIVES
OR BEEN HARMED BY THE DOCTOR
INCLUDING ME DIDN'T TO. MODIFY
THEM BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL
COLD AND REFERENCE THAT BELL.
AND REQUIRE A FAMILY INTERVIEW
BEFORE A COMPLAINT OF THE
REQUIRE THE BOARD ABOUT THE CA
COMPLAIN PRIORITY PATIENTS
SYSTEM AND PROVIDE. TRANSPARENCY
WHEN BACKING LIKE MINE ARE
CHARGED WITH FELONIES THANK. TO
PATIENT CARE FAMILIES IN SAN
DIEGO LIKE MINE ARE. COUNTING ON
YOU THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MAY THIS IS THE LAST
MODERATOR SO. PIC WAS LEAKING
AIR LINE NUMBER ONE TWELVE YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. THANK YOU MY NAME
IS DEMOCRATS WHO CALLING FROM
HYSTERIA I'M CALLING TO TALK TO
YOU TODAY BECAUSE OF THE MEDICAL
NEGLIGENCE THAT CAUSED HER
SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER
CHILDREN. DIE IN TWO THOUSAND
EIGHTEEN. JORDAN SUFFERED FOR
YEARS UNDER I CLOSED AND
UNTREATED BEFORE FINAL SERIES OF
ERRORS IN THE HOSPITAL COSTS
CHILDREN WHO LIVE. IT STARTED
FROM A NON LIFE UNSUPERVISED.
POSTGRADUATE YEAR ONE STUDENT
HOLDING HIMSELF OUT FOR FAMILY
AS A LICENSED PHYSICIAN AGAINST
STATE LAW. FURTHER HIS ATTENDING
PHYSICIANS FALSIFIED STATEMENTS
THAT THEY WERE- JORDAN WHEN THEY
NEVER DID. AND JORDAN WAS NEVER
PROVIDED BLOOD THINNERS FOR
BLOOD CLOT. TO THE STANDARD OF
CARE SHE WAS NOT PROVIDED
ANTIBIOTICS WHICH IS THE
STANDARD OF CARE FOR INSPECTION.
SHE WAS NOT PROVIDED PARRIS THEM
PIECES FOR DOMINO LITTLE
CONFECTION CALLED ASIDE THESE.
FURTHER AT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
INVESTIGATIONS THAT CHILDREN
WITH IMPROPERLY TRANSFERRED OUT
BUT YOU ALSO REQUIRING ICU LEVEL
CARE. AND THAT THE UNIT SHE WAS
TRANSFERRED TO WAS NOT BACK. FOR
ICU LEVEL CARE SERVICES. THE
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH ALSO
REFERRED THIS COMPLAINT TO THE
BOARDS BUT THEN DID NOT FOR THE
COMMUNICATE WITH SUPPORT WHEN
THE BOARD ALLEGEDLY REACHED OUT
FOR MORE INFORMATION. BOARD
REACHED OUT TO ME FOR MORE
INFORMATION BUT REFER THE CLIENT
TO PROVIDE ME ANY DETAILS CITING
CONFIDENTIALITY. THE FURTHER A
DOCTOR STATED TWO HOURS BEFORE
JORDAN DIED SHE STATED THAT. SHE
FELT REALLY JORDAN LABORATORY
TEST RESULTS I WASN'T SURE IF
THAT CONTRIBUTED TO CHILDREN
CONDITION AND HER DOWN FROM HER
HEALTH. AT LEAST TWO POSITIONS
INDICATED TO THE REGULATORY
BODIES ACCIONES OUTCOME WOULD BE
DIFFERENT HAD SHE BEEN TREATED
SOONER. I FILED MULTIPLE
COMPLAINTS THE MEDICAL BOARD.
CURRENTLY I HAVE FORTY FIVE
ACTIVE OPEN COMPLETE. THE
LONGEST RUNNING WHAT IS NOW
SITTING AT FIVE HUNDRED AND
SIXTY DAYS THE SHORTEST AT TWO
HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO DAYS. I
HAVE NOT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION
FROM THE SPORTS AS THE STATUS OF
THE COMPLAINT FOR THEIR VERY
VACANCY DATE STATING THAT
MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS ARE UNDER
REVIEW WITHOUT GIVING. ME
IDENTIFICATION AS TO WHICH ONE.
THE LATEST STATUS HE ME WHAT THE
COMPLAIN IF AND PROCESS THE
FICTION GIVEN THE HUNDRED THEY-
I'M SORRY. BORDERS UNDER. I
STAND WITH CONSUMER WATCHDOG.
AND WE- THAT SUPPORT BUT LESS
THAT WE- TESTS. INVESTED ALL
DEATHS AND SERIOUS BODILY INJURY
COMPLAINTS. AND THAT A COMPLETED
INTERVIEW. REQUIRED BEFORE ANY
COMPLAINTS CLOSE. JORDAN
DESERVES JUSTICE FOR OUR FAMILY
DESERVES TO BE HEARD. A NUMBER
OF ISSUES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED
AND FORWARDED TO THE FOURTH
WITHOUT ANY BONE ACTION TODAY.
AN INVESTIGATION OF JOBS THAT
THIS PARAMOUNT. PUBLIC KNOWS
ACCOUNTABLE IS PARAMOUNT. TRUST
IN OUR MEDICAL BOARD IS
PARAMOUNT. PLEASE DO NOT FAIL TO
HOLD OUR PROVIDERS AND OUR
MEDICAL BOARD TO ACCOUNT. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR- OF THE SEED. THAT
CONCLUDES OF PUBLIC COMMENT WITH
THAT I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
MEMBERS OF THE- TWO COMMITTEES
BOTH THE ASSEMBLY IN THE SENATE
ARE WITNESSES. FURTHER TESTIMONY
TODAY ALSO LIKE TO THANK MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC. FOR SHARING THEIR
STORIES THEIR IMPACT. STATEMENTS
IN FOR WEIGHING IN ON THE
SUGGESTIONS THAT WE'RE
EVALUATING WITH RESPECT TO THESE
PROCEEDINGS- TO THOSE ON THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE IF YOU WERE
NOT ABLE TO TESTIFY. PLEASE
SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS OR
SUGGESTIONS IN WRITING TO THE
SENATE BUSINESS PROFESSIONS AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
AND THE ASSEMBLY BUSINESS. AND
PROFESSIONS COMMITTEE OR VISIT
OUR WEBSITE. YOUR COMMENTS AND
SUGGESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO US
AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE YOUR
TESTIMONY IN THE OFFICIAL
RECORDS OF THIS HEARING. AGAIN
THANK YOU WE HAVE CONCLUDED THE
AGENDA THIS EVENING THE JOINT
SUNSET REVIEW OVERSIGHT HEARING.
IS ADJOURNED.