UM SENATE COMMITTEE ON THE
JUDICIARY WILL COME TO ORDER.
GOOD MORNING, ACTUALLY. GOOD
AFTERNOON AS WE CONTINUE TO TAKE
SOME PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE
ONGOING COVID 19 RISK. THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
PUBLIC HEARINGS AND PROVIDED
ACCESS TO BOTH IN PERSON AND
TELECONFERENCE. PARTICIPATION
FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ALL
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT. THE PARTICIPANT
TOLL FREE NUMBER AND ACCESS CODE
IS POSTED OUR COMMITTEE WEBSITE
IT WILL BE DISPLAYED ON THE
SCREEN AND I WILL ANNOUNCE IT
NOW. TODAY'S PARTICIPANT NUMBER
IS 844. 2916364. IN THE ACCESS
CODE IS 1411140. FOR DETAILED
INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW THE
TELECONFERENCE SYSTEM WORKS.
PLEASE REFER TO THE SENATE.
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WEBSITES,
OUR MAINTAIN DECORUM DURING THE
HEARING AS HIS CUSTOMER IN ANY
INDIVIDUAL WHO IS DISRUPTIVE,
MAYBE REMOVED THE REMOTE MEETING
SERVICE OR HAVE THEIR
CONNECTIONS MUTED. WE'RE HOLDING
OUR COMMITTEE HEARINGS TODAY IN
THE STREET BUILDING KNOWN AS THE
SWING SPACE, AND I ASK ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO COME
TO ROOM 1200 SO THAT WE CAN
ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM AND BEGIN
OUR HEARING. FOR THOSE OF YOU
WHO ARE EITHER WATCHING OR
PRESENT. THERE ARE OTHER
COMMITTEE HEARINGS GOING ON
SIMULTANEOUSLY, SO OTHER
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE IN OTHER
COMMITTEE HEARINGS AND WILL BE
HERE AT SOME POINT IN TIME. BUT
WE'RE PREPARED TO GO FORWARD AS
A SUBCOMMITTEE HERE, AND I'LL
ANNOUNCE THE ORDER IN JUST A
MOMENT BEFORE WE HEAR
PRESENTATION OF DAYS. BILLS UM
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE 1234. WE DO
HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY, UM. MADAM
SECRETARY, WOULD YOU CALL THE
ROLE FOR PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING
QUORUM? HAMBURG HERE, GORGEOUS.
OR JUST PRESIDENT CABALLERO
CABALLERO HERE. UM. SORRY. ONE
SECOND.
TO RUSSELL. SO HERE, GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ HERE, HERTZBERG JONES.
JONES HERE, LAIRD. STERN.
WIECKOWSKI WIENER. WE ARE
PRESENT. YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
ALRIGHT HANK YOU JUST TO NOTE
THAT 100% OF THE REPUBLICANS
ASSIGNED TO THIS COMMITTEE OR
PRESENT WE'RE WAITING FOR A FULL
COMPLEMENT OF DEMOCRATS. UM. AS
A REMINDER FOR EACH BILL. WE
ALLOW TO WITNESSES PER SIDE AND
EACH WITNESS GETS TWO MINUTES TO
TESTIFY. WE ALLOW TOTAL OF 15
MINUTES PER SIDE FOR ME TO
WITNESS IS ON THE PHONE LINES.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS FOR THOSE WHO
ARE EITHER PRESENT OR ON THE
PHONE WHO WISH TO TESTIFY EITHER
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. IF
THEY'RE NOT ONE OF THE TWO
PRIMARY WITNESSES, THEN THEY
PROVIDE THEIR NAME THEIR
AFFILIATION IN THEIR POSITION.
ON THE BILL. UM ANYONE WHO'S
DISRUPTIVE AS I MENTIONED A
MOMENT AGO WILL BE REMOVED.
WE'RE GONNA BEGIN WITH SB 6 16,
WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED BY SB 11
31 AND THEN LASTLY, SB 2 33
BEFORE WE BEGIN ON SB 6 16 LET
ME COMPLIMENT THE SPONSORS OF
THE BILL. THIS IS A VERY
IMPORTANT ISSUE. AH AH! AH AND
SENATOR RUBIO FOR HER PASSION,
DEDICATION, DILIGENCE ON THIS
BILL. UM WHAT? WHAT WE ARE
PLANNING ON DOING IS THAT THIS
BILL? PROVIDES A NUMBER OF
THINGS BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY,
PROVIDES FOR SPECIFIC EDUCATION
FOR BENCH OFFICERS AND OTHERS
THAT ARE INVOLVED IN CHILD
CUSTODY. ISSUES SPECIFIC
EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS OR
SPECIFIC EDUCATION THAT WILL BE
CRAFTED SO THAT THEY BECOME MORE
FAMILIAR WITH A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT ISSUES. CHILD SEXUAL
ABUSE, PHYSICAL ABUSE, EMOTIONAL
ABUSE COLLECTIVE COURSE OF
CONTROL IN SEVERAL OTHER AREAS.
UM WHAT THE PLAN IS. THE PLAN.
IS THAT THE PORTIONS OF THIS
BILL, UM, MINUS THE MANDATORY
ASSIGNMENT OF JUDGES, AND, UH
AND A COUPLE OTHER. OTHER
ELEMENTS, BUT THE GUTS OF THE
EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS WILL BE
PLACED IN ANOTHER BILL YET TO BE
DETERMINED AND THAT THIS BILL,
I'M EXPECTING THAT THERE WILL BE
A MOTION. UH NOT AS ONE USUALLY
SEES A MOTION TO DO PASS WITH MY
RECOMMENDATION, BUT MOTION TO
PASS THE AMENDMENTS TO THE
SENATE FLOOR FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND THAT SENATOR RUBIO HAS
AGREED TO NOT TAKE UP HER BILL
PROVIDED THAT THE AMENDMENTS
THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AND AGREED
TO ARE INCORPORATED INTO ANOTHER
VEHICLE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE SENATOR RUBIO THAT I HAVE
ACCURATELY STATED WHAT WHAT YOUR
UNDERSTANDING IS AND THAT IS
ACCURATE. THANKS. OKAY ALRIGHT.
ALRIGHT UM, AND THE REASON I'M
SAYING THAT IN ADVANCE IS
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THESE ARE
LATE, BREAKING MOST OF THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE. MOST OF THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE OBSERVING AREN'T
AREN'T AWARE OF WHAT THE LATEST
ITERATION IS, UM, BUT I WANT TO
BASICALLY PUT THAT ON THE TABLE
HERE AT THE OUTSET. SO IT MAY,
UM PROVIDES SOME GUIDANCE IS TO
IS TO FURTHER TESTIMONY ALRIGHT?
HAVING SAID THAT, SENATOR RUBIO
, PLEASE BEGIN. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. AND AS YOU ALREADY STATED
, I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT
TO RECOGNIZE ALL THE HOURS WE'VE
SPENT ON THIS BILL, AND IT'S
JUST A TESTAMENT AND HOW
IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS AND HOW
YOURSELF ALONG WITH MYSELF IN
THE ADVOCATES REALLY ARE FULLY
CHILDREN ARE SAFE AND WE'RE
TRYING TO GET THIS RIGHT AND WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE
UNDERSTANDS THAT OTHER CHANGES
HAVE NOT BEEN DONE LIGHTLY. AND
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT
INTO THIS TRYING AGAIN TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS IS SUCCESSFUL AND
THAT WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO
RIGHT BY CHILDREN. UM SO AGAIN.
SIX SP 616 IS AN IMPORTANT BILL
THAT WOULD STRENGTHEN THE
PROTECTIONS FOR CHILDREN BY
PRIORITIZING CHILD SAFETY AND
FAMILY COURT REQUIRING CRITICAL
TRAINING FOR JUDGES AND OTHER
COURT EMPLOYEES. THAT PERFORMED
DUTIES AND FAMILY LAW MATTERS.
UM AGAIN, UM, THE CHAIR JUST
STATED SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT
I HAVE AGREED TO, SO WE WILL
MOVE FORWARD AS STATE. IT UM SO
TODAY I WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT
THE BILL NAME. IT'S PEAKY SLAW,
AND THIS BILL IS NOT AS PICKY
SLOB BECAUSE THIS IS NAMED AFTER
A FIVE YEAR OLD LITTLE BOY. WHO
WAS MURDERED BY HIS FATHER. AND
THERE WERE FROM MY DISTRICT. AND
I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN
CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS BILL
MOVES FORWARD, BUT I AM
CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL GET TO A
PLACE THAT AT THIS WILL BE
EFFECTIVE. AND I WANT TO TAKE
AGAIN. ANOTHER MOMENT TO THANK,
UM HONESTLY, VISTA MOTHER OF
PEAKY WHOSE NAME WE ARE BEING
HONORED HERE TODAY, UM, ONCE
AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
AS WELL THAT ALOT OF THE LAWS
ARE IN PLACE AND WE FELT TO
RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S BLIND
SPOTS IN THESE LAWS. AND
SOMETIMES WE UNDERSTAND THAT
THERE'S CONSTITUTION,
CONSTITUTIONALITY ISSUES AND, UM. BUT EVEN IF THEY'RE IN PLACE,
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
MAKE IT RIGHT. WE CONTINUE TO
SEE OUR CHILDREN DYING AT RECORD
NUMBERS, AND I JUST WANT TO
STATE THAT PICKY SLOW NOT ONLY
MEETS THE MOMENT THE NEED BUT IT
CHALLENGES OF STATUS QUO. AS OF
TODAY, WE HAVE LOST 860 CHILDREN
AT THE HANDS OF AN ABUSIVE
PARENT. AND ONE IS TOO MANY. 860. IS REALLY NOT ACCEPTABLE, NOT
AT LEAST IN OUR CALIFORNIA. LOG
GIVES A VOICE TO OTHER CHILDREN
WHO ARE NO LONGER WITH US AND
HER CRYING OUT FROM THEIR GRAVE
CLEANING FOR US TO DO SOMETHING
TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM TO PROTECT
THEM, AND IT GIVES HOPE TO THOSE
CHILDREN THAT WILL DIE BY THE
END OF THIS YEAR AT THE HANDS OF
ANOTHER PARENT. IT TELLS THEM
THAT HELP IS ON ITS WAY. AND WE
NEED TO WORK HARD TO ENSURE THAT
WE DO. PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE
THAT WORKS AND DOES TAKE CARE OF
OUR CHILDREN. I WANT TO SAY THIS
IN THE NAME OF SAMIA, SAMANTHA
AND SAMARRA, ALL UNDER 10 YEARS
OLD, WHO WERE SHOT BY THEIR
FATHER EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND
THE SYSTEM FAILED THEM. THREE
SISTERS. I ALSO WANT TO DO THIS.
IN THE NAME OF PEAKY WHOSE NAME
I JUST MENTIONED WHO WAS
STRANGLED BY HIS FATHER. THIS
BILL TELLS HER CHILDREN THAT WE%
UNDERSTAND THEIR FEAR. WE
UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS, AND
WE TELL PARENTS THAT WE WANT TO
LISTEN. WE WANT TO TAKE WHAT YOU
SAY AND TO CONSIDERATION AND WE
WILL DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO
MAKE SURE THAT NO OTHER CHILD
DIES AT THE HANDS OF AN ABUSIVE
PARENT. YES WE NEED TO CHANGE
THIS SYSTEM THAT CLAIMS TO PUT
THE SAFETY OF CHILDREN FIRST.
BUT YEAH, THESE KIDS ARE STILL
DYING ON OUR WATCH. AND THAT
SHOULD NOT STAND. PINKY'S MOTHER
. HONEST, DAVIS IS HERE TO SHARE
HER STORY. SHE FOUGHT HARD AND
FAMILY COURT TO PROTECT HER
CHILD FROM AN ABUSIVE EX
HUSBAND. THE FATHER OF PEKING,
AND DESPITE HER EFFORTS HER
PLEASE AND HER CRIES. THE COURT
REFUSED TO STOP VISITATIONS
AFTER PEAK, HE WOULD SAY HE WAS
AFRAID. LEADING TO HIS MURDER.
SO IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO
INTRODUCE MY FIRST WITNESS
HONEST, DAVIS WAS HERE TO
TESTIFY. SHE HAS BEEN AN
ADVOCATE A VICTIM. A MOTHER. AND
IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
HER COME UP TO TESTIFY.
SPEAKING. RIGHT AFTER AN HOUR
JUST CLARIFY THAT WE HAD ANOTHER
WITNESS ON RECORD, BUT SHE
WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND. SO TODAY
WE HAVE TAYLOR JACKSON THAT WILL
STEP IN. FOR THE CENTER FOR
JUDICIAL ACCIDENTS AFTER ANNA
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, ALRIGHT,
JUST TO REVIEW UM THE LINEUP.
SO, MR ESTEVEZ, I SEE IS
STANDING BY THE MICROPHONE. UM
TAYLOR JACKSON, YOU KNOW, BOTH
IN SUPPORT OF VIRGINIA, GRIFFIN
, DONALD AND PETRA DETER IN
OPPOSITION WITH JUDGE MARLON
MARLON ANDERSON, AVAILABLE FROM
JUDICIAL COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS,
UM TWO MINUTES. EACH FOR EACH
WITNESS, UM, ON THE PROCESS ID
TWO MINUTES EACH FOR EACH
WITNESS ON THE OPPOSITION SIDE,
FESTIVE AS THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON,
CHAIRMAN EMBURGH AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. I WOULD LIKE TO
BEGIN BY THANKING YOU AND
SENATOR RUBIO FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY ON
BEHALF OF MY SON AND TO SENATOR
AMBERG FOR COMMITTING TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH US THIS
COMING WINTER TO MAKE SENATE
BILL 616 STRONGER. I STAND
BEFORE YOU AS A CONSTITUENT. A
VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES
ARMY, A FORMER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
PRINCIPAL, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY
AS A MOTHER AND AN ADVOCATE FOR
CHILDREN WHO SUFFER AT THE HANDS
OF AN ABUSIVE PARENT AND
CHILDREN WHO FALL VICTIM TO FAT
TO OUR FAMILY COURT SYSTEM. MY
PURPOSE HERE TODAY IS TO SHARE
MY PERSONAL TESTIMONY. TO
RECOGNIZE THE CRITICAL ROLE THAT
YOU ALL PLAY. AND TO PROVIDE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO REFLECT
ON HOW THE MURDER OF AN INNOCENT
CHILD CAN INFLUENCE THE
DECISIONS YOU MAKE AND HOW YOU
PROTECT AND SERVE YOUR
CONSTITUENTS IN THE FUTURE. MY
ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO TALK ABOUT
THE 84 CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN
MURDERED BY A PARENT HERE IN
CALIFORNIA AND THE MULTIPLE WAYS
THAT THE FAMILY COURT SYSTEM HAS
FAILED. I COULD PROVIDE AN
ANTHOLOGY AND HOW MULTIPLE
REQUESTS FOR SOLE CUSTODY WITH
SUPERVISED VISITS WERE DENIED.
OR HOW THE JUDGES WHO PRESIDED
OVER MY CASE DISREGARDED
EVIDENCE, INCLUDING THE
OPPORTUNITY. FOR THREE LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO TESTIFY
THAT CAUGHT THAT COULD HAVE
PREVENTED MY SON'S DEATH. I ALSO
PLANNED TO DISCUSS HOW ONE MONTH
AFTER MY SON'S DISAPPEARANCE,
THE JUDGE AGAIN DENIED MY
REQUEST FOR PHYSICAL AND LEGAL
CUSTODY, EVEN AFTER
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT MY SON WENT
MISSING WHILE IN THE CUSTODY OF
HIS FATHER. I WON'T ELABORATE ON
HAVING TO CONTINUE TO PAY CHILD
SUPPORT FOR THREE MONTHS AFTER
MY SON'S DEATH UNTIL IN ORDER TO
PERMANENTLY TERMINATE CHILD
SUPPORT WAS FINALLY ISSUED. WHAT
I DO WANT TO DO IS GIVE YOU AN
OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THE
IMPACT A BAD FAMILY COURT
OUTCOME HAS ON THE LIFE OF A
MOTHER WHO HAS LOST HER ONLY
CHILD. I'D LIKE TO SHARE A
LETTER THAT I WROTE TO MY SON
AND READ DURING HIS EULOGY. MY
DEAREST BEAKY. AT NO TIME. DID I
EVER IMAGINE HAVING TO WRITE
SUCH A LETTER? NOR DID I DID THE
THOUGHT OF LIFE WITHOUT YOU EVER
ENTER MY MIND. ALTHOUGH I FIND
MYSELF LIVING WITHIN ETERNAL
SHADOW OF DEVASTATION IN
EMPTINESS, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
YOU WITH ME. I WANT THE WORLD TO
SEE WHAT AMAZING TO AN AMAZING
CHILD. YOU WERE THROUGH MY EYES
AND TO SEE US THE GIFT THAT GOD
BLESSED ME WITH FOR FIVE YEARS,
TWO MONTHS AND TWO DAYS. I NEVER
SHARED THIS WITH YOU, HONEY, BUT
MAMA PRAYED REALLY HARD FOR A
BABY. FINALLY AFTER YEARS OF
PRAYING GOD LISTENED IN ON
FEBRUARY 19TH OF 2012 YOU CAME
INTO THIS WORLD. I STILL RECALL
THE DOCTORS ASTONISHMENT WHEN
YOU TOOK YOUR FIRST BREATH. BUT
NOW. I HAVE NIGHTMARES ABOUT THE
LAST BREATH YOU TOOK. BEFORE
YOUR ARRIVAL. I READ MANY, MANY
BOOKS, HOPING TO LEARN HOW TO BE
A GOOD MAMA. NOT ONE OF THOSE
BOOKS TAUGHT ME HOW TO BE YOUR
MOM. YOU DID THAT ALL BY
YOURSELF? YOU OFTEN ASKED ME IF
THE HAPPIEST DAY OF MY LIFE WAS
THE DAY YOU WERE BORN. MY LOVE.
FEBRUARY 19TH 2012 WAS THE
HAPPIEST DAY OF MY LIFE. FROM
THE TIME YOU WERE AN INFANT, I
WOULD TELL OTHERS YOU WERE A
MAGNET. EVERYONE WHO CAME NEAR
YOU SEEM TO BE ATTRACTED TO YOU.
PEOPLE STOPPED CONVERSATIONS AND
HALTED WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO
PLAY WITH YOUR SIMPLY STARE,
FAMILY, FRIENDS AND STRANGERS
ALIKE COULDN'T GET ENOUGH OF
YOU. THE SAME KIND OF MAGNETISM
CONTINUED. AS YOU GREW IN,
ULTIMATELY REPLICATED ON A
GRANDER SCALE. BEGINNING ON
APRIL 21ST. 2017 THE DAY YOUR
FATHER SUFFOCATED YOU TO DEATH
AND YOU WENT TO HEAVEN. YOU'RE
SENSITIVE NATURE MELTED MANY
HEARTS, NOT JUST MINE, AND I
WILL NEVER FORGET THE DAY WE
SPEND AT THE PARK. WELL, PAPA
WAS HAVING SURGERY. YOU SAT AND
STARED AT A LITTLE GIRL WHO WAS
PLAYING WITH A BUCKET AND A
SHOVEL IN THE SANDBOX. I KNEW
YOU WANTED TO PLAY WITH HER SO
BADLY, BUT YOU WERE HESITANT TO
APPROACH HER. I SAID TO YOU,
PAPA. GO ASK THE LITTLE GIRL IF
YOU CAN PLAY WITH HER. AND YOU
REPLIED, NO, MAMA, THAT'S OKAY.
AGAIN GO ASK HER. I AM SURE SHE
WOULD BE HAPPY TO PLAY WITH YOU.
SO YOU MUSTERED UP THE COURAGE
AND WALKED OVER TO THE LITTLE
GIRL AND ASKED IF YOU COULD PLAY
WITH HER WHEN SHE REPLIED, NO,
YOU TURNED AROUND AND RAN AS
FAST AS YOU COULD. TOWARD ME.
THE TEARS STREAM DOWN YOUR FACE
. AS YOU SAID, MAMA, SHE SAID,
NO, SHE DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY
WITH ME. I IMMEDIATELY HUGGED
YOU AND SAID, HONEY, IT'S OKAY.
MAYBE SHE DOESN'T FEEL LIKE
PLAYING WITH ANYONE TODAY. I'LL
PLAY WITH YOU. TOGETHER. YOU AND
I SPENT AN AFTERNOON BUILDING
SANDCASTLES COLLECTING LEAVES TO
USE AS FLAGS. I'M LAUGHING AT
HOW SILLY YOUR CASTLES LOOKED.
ON FEBRUARY 19TH OF 2017. I WAS
SO BROKEN HEARTED BECAUSE YOUR
FATHER WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO
TALK TO YOU OR WISH YOU A HAPPY
BIRTHDAY. WHEN I PICKED YOU UP
THE NEXT DAY WITH TEARS IN MY
EYES, I SQUATTED DOWN IN FRONT
OF YOU AND EXPLAINED THAT I
CALLED YOU MANY, MANY TIMES BUT
WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK WITH
YOU. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT WISHING
YOU A HAPPY BIRTHDAY. AND THE
BEST DAY OF MY LIFE. AND YOU
REPLIED. IT'S OKAY, MAMA. I'M
HERE NOW YOU CAN TELL ME HAPPY
BIRTHDAY NOW. MY MEMORIES GO ON
AND ON. BUT THE ONES I MISSED
THE MOST. ARE GIVING YOU
BUTTERFLY KISSES ALL OVER YOUR
FACE AND THEN WATCHING YOU
PRETEND TO WIPE THEM OFF. I MISS
WAKING UP EACH MORNING AND
WHISPERING IN YOUR EAR WHILE YOU
SLEEP. MAMA LOVES YOU FOREVER,
ANGEL. I MISS READING STORIES
TOGETHER AND HEARING YOU RETAIL
YOUR OWN VERSION, ESPECIALLY
WHEN YOU WANTED ME TO BE THE BIG
BAD WOLF. I MISS HEARING YOU SAY
TO YOUR GRANDMOTHER? YEAH, YEAH,
I LOVE YOU. I MISSED THE WAY YOU
WOULD FACTUALLY TELL PEOPLE MY
MAMA IS A PRINCIPLE. I MISSING.
SEE YOU LATER. ALLIGATOR AND
YOUR REPLY. SEE YOU LATER,
PUSSYCAT. I MISSED TOUCHING YOU
AND HUGGING YOU. AND LOOKING AT
YOU IN NOTHING. BUT MORE THAN
ANYTHING, I MISS HEARING YOU
SAY, MAMA, I LOVE YOU MORE THAN
THERE IS BLUE IN THE SKY. AND I
MISS REPLYING. BUT I LOVE YOU
MORE THAN THERE IS WATER IN THE
OCEAN. MY SON WAS MY INSPIRATION
AND REPRESENTED EVERYTHING GOOD
IN MY LIFE, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT
KIKI'S LAW WILL NEVER BENEFIT MY
SON. BUT WILL HELP PROTECT
THOUSANDS OF OTHERS WHO HAVE
CHILDREN. I AM HERE TESTIFYING
BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO
DO, AND IT IS JUST AND I AM
ASKING ALL OF YOU TO MAKE A
DECISION THAT IS RIGHT AND JUST
AND TO BE THE VOICE. THAT BRINGS
PROTECTION AND SAFETY TO
THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN. WE CANNOT
ALLOW MORE CHILDREN TO DIE
BECAUSE OF BAD FAMILY COURT
OUTCOMES. AND AS YOU KNOW,PEAK
EASE LAW AS INTENDED. CALLS FOR
A MINIMUM OF 25 HOURS OF
ORIENTATION, TRAINING AND A
MINIMUM OF 20 HOURS FOR EVERY
THREE YEARS THEREAFTER COMBINED
. THIS TRAINING REQUIREMENT
WOULD ESSENTIALLY TOTAL 45
HOURS. AS OF TODAY. I HAVE LIVED
1950 DAYS. OR 46,800 HOURS
WITHOUT MASON. REQUIRING FOR 88
45 HOURS OF TRAINING IS MINIMAL.
COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF HOURS
THAT I HAVE SUFFERED AND WILL
CONTINUE TO SUFFER FOR THE REST
OF MY LIFE. SO IT IS MY HOPE
THAT TODAY AT EVERY DAY FORWARD
, YOU EMBRACE THE IMPORTANCE OF
PROTECTING CHILDREN WITH
INTEGRITY AND MAINTAIN A SENSE
OF URGENCY WHEN IT COMES TO
CHILD SAFETY AND FAMILY COURT,
THERE ARE NO COMPROMISES YOUR I
VOTE HERE TODAY WILL MAKE A
DIFFERENCE TO THOUSANDS. YOU CAN
CHOOSE TO SAVE INNOCENT LIVES,
PROTECT CHILDREN WHO SUFFER AT
THE HANDS OF AN ABUSIVE PARENT
AND BE THE VOICE OF THE 84
CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN MURDERED
BY A DIVORCING PARENTS HERE IN
CALIFORNIA, AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY
ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT
SENATE BILL 616 B KEYS LAW
WITHOUT RESERVATION. I THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR COMPASSION
AND THE LEADERSHIP THAT GUIDES
YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE
RIGHT, JUST AND FULL OF
INTEGRITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MISS ESTEVEZ. UM. SAYING, WE'RE
SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS IS NOT
ADEQUATE. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU
USING YOUR PAIN TO TRY TO REFORM
THE SYSTEM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT
TAYLOR JACKSON. MR MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS TAYLOR JACKSON. I'M THE
POLICY DIRECTOR AT THE CENTER
FOR JUDICIAL EXCELLENCE WHERE
THE PROUD SPONSORS OF SP 616.
AND I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY
WITH SENATOR RUBIO AND ANA
ESTEVEZ, WHO BRAVELY SHARES HER
STORY ALL THE TIME TO ADVOCATE
TO PROTECT OTHER CHILDREN AND
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS. CJ
E TRACKS THE NATIONAL CRISIS OF
CHILDREN BEING MURDERED BY A
DIVORCING OR SEPARATING PARENT.
LIKE PINKIES TRAGIC MURDER. MANY
OF THESE CASES ARE PREVENTABLE
HOMICIDES IF COURTS HAD ONLY
PRIORITIZED CHILD SAFETY AS THIS
BILL DEMANDS CONGRESS AND
PRESIDENT BIDEN RECOGNIZE THIS
CRISIS WITH A FINANCIAL
INCENTIVE TO ENCOURAGE STATES TO
PRIORITIZE CHILD SAFETY AND
MODERNIZED CUSTODY LAWS. LAW
WOULD IMPLEMENT MANY OF THESE
CONGRESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND
BRING US UP TO $25 MILLION IN
VAWA FUNDS. I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY
FOCUS ON THE PORTION OF THIS
BILL, WHICH BANS DANGEROUS
REUNIFICATION PROGRAMS.
CLARIFYING EXISTING LANGUAGE AND
FAMILY CODE 30 26, AS WAS
REQUESTED BY APPELLATE JUDGES IN
CALIFORNIA'S FOURTH APPELLATE
COURT. FAMILY COURT.
REUNIFICATION IS DANGEROUS
THREAT THERAPY THAT TRIES TO
COERCE ABUSED CHILDREN INTO
RECANTING THEIR ABUSE BY A
PARENT WHO THE COURT THEN FORCES
THEM TO LIVE WITH. THE DANGERS
OF THESE PROGRAMS TO FURTHER
HARM ABUSE. CHILDREN ARE WELL
DOCUMENTED DESPITE RECENT
OUTREACH. SENT BY FATHER'S
RIGHTS GROUPS TO MUDDY THE WATER
AND TRY TO KILL THIS BILL. NO
CREDIBLE, PEER REVIEWED.
RESEARCH HAS PROVEN THE EFFICACY
OR SAFETY OF THIS APPROACH. THIS
THREAT THERAPY IS VERY SIMILAR
TO GAY CONVERSION THERAPY, WHICH
THE LEGISLATURE WISELY BANNED
YEARS AGO. I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE
THAT IN JUDICIAL COUNCIL LETTER
C. J E WAS DEEPLY OFFENDED BY
THE SUGGESTION THAT MANDATING
COMPREHENSIVE EDUCATION FOR
JUDGES AND COURT CONNECTED
PERSONNEL TO HELP THEM DETECT
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND CHILD
ABUSE IN ORDER TO SAVE
CHILDREN'S LIVES, IS A PART OF A
BIASED ADVOCACY AGENDA THAT
WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE COURTS
IMPARTIALITY. TO US. THIS
ASSERTION EVEN FURTHER
ILLUSTRATES THE DIRE AND URGENT
NEED FOR THIS TRAINING IN OUR
STATE'S JUDICIARY. THANK YOU,
MISS JACKSON. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU. OKAY, UM. SO UM, IS I'M
SURE SOME OF YOU NOTED, I SAID
AT THE BEGINNING, WE'D HAVE TWO
MINUTES FOR EACH WITNESS FOR
EACH SIDE. WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE
OVER 12 MINUTES FOR THE SUPPORT
SIDE, SO I WILL GIVE THE
OPPOSITION 12 MINUTES AS WELL,
UM, FOR THOSE THAT ARE ON THE
PHONE, WE WILL PERMIT 15 MINUTES
OF WHAT? WE UM CALLED ME TO
TESTIMONY. AH THAT MEANS THAT
THOSE WHO WERE ON THE PHONE WILL
ANNOUNCE THEIR NAME THEIR
AFFILIATION IN THEIR POSITION.
15 MINUTES ON EACH SIDE, SO
LET'S LET'S NOW GO TO SUPPORT
THAT'S HERE IN ROOM. 1200 IF YOU
ARE IN SUPPORT, PLEASE APPROACH
THE MICROPHONE AND GIVE US YOUR
NAME. YOUR ORGANIZATION AND YOUR
POSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY
NAME IS SANDY ROSS. AND I'M FROM
LOS ANGELES. AND I'M THE
PROTECTIVE PARENT OF AN ABUSED
CHILD. AND I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU. HI MY
NAME IS BRITTANY, KOBE TO.
PROTECTIVE APPEARANCE OF A
ABUSED CHILD. HE HAS NOT HAD
DETRIMENTAL HARM YET FROM
SACRAMENTO AREA AND I STRUGGLING
WITH LIKE THIS. BILL PASSED.
THANK YOU. DIANA DAY FROM
ALAMEDA, CALIFORNIA I'M A
DOMESTIC ABUSE SURVIVOR AND A
PROTECTIVE PARENT OF AN ABUSED
CHILD. BECAUSE ALL CHILDREN
DESERVE TO LIVE TO LIVE BUT ALSO
FREE OF ABUSE AND TRAUMA. I
WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT SB 6 16
AND THE POWER IT HOLDS TO
PROTECT CHILDREN. THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT SAYING NO ONE ELSE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE HERE
IN SUPPORT OF SB 6 16, LET'S NOW
TURN TO THE PHONE LINES, AS I
MENTIONED WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES
OF ME TO TESTIMONY MODERATOR IF
YOU WOULD QUEUE UP THOSE WHO ARE
IN SUPPORT OF ESP. C. PLEASE
PRESS ONE FALL BY ZERO AT THIS
TIME ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO AND,
UH, MR CHAIR 1 47. WE'LL START
WITH 1 47, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS. I'M CHECKING BREAST
HEARD. TROUBLE. WELL, I THINK
SPORT CRISPY SIX MONTHS SINCE.
THANK YOU. 1 65, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS DAN
PHIL ASATO ON BEHALF OF THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN SUPPORT.
LINE 1 80, YOU ARE OPEN.
CATHERINE CAMPBELL WITH
CALIFORNIA PROTECTIVE PARENTS
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG SUPPORT.
9 36, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS REBECCA
FARRELL FROM LONG BEACH. I AM A
SOCIAL WORKER, PROTECTIVE
PARENTS AND SURVIVOR AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT BASICS. 16
SPEAK. HE'S LOST. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. YOU ARE OPEN. MY NAME
IS ELIZABETH ARE SHOT. REALLY
I'M FROM LOS ANGELES,
CALIFORNIA. I AM. THE ANT FROM
THE FATHER PINKY'S FATHER'S SIDE
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT SP 616
PCS LOST THANK YOU. WHY 1 76,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. CHRISTINE MATH
, CALIFORNIA PARTNERSHIPS AND
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND STRONG
SUPPORT. ONE. OH, SIX. YES MY
NAME IS ADRIAN GRIGGS. I LIVE IN
SANTA BARBARA COUNTY. I AM A
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVOR, AND
I'M A PROTECTIVE PARENTS AND I
URGE YOU TO VOTE ION BUILT THIS
16. THANK YOU. 91 43, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MY NAME IS MARIKA. SHE'S
FROM SANTA BARBARA, CALIFORNIA
AND I'M THIS SISTER OF A
PROTECTIVE PARENT AND AUNT OF
ABUSED CHILD. I STRONGLY URGE
YOU TO SUPPORT 616. THANK YOU.
63 YOU ARE OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON.
THIS IS DR BRENNAN CAR FROM
HUNTINGTON'S BEACH, AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORTED THE 616.
THANK YOU. LINE 71 YOU ARE OPEN.
YES MY NAME IS ADRIAN MORRELL
SCHOOL AND I AM FROM ARCADIA,
CALIFORNIA. I AM A FAMILY FRIEND
OF PICKING AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT 16 THANK YOU. 78, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. 78 YOU ARE OPEN. ONE
MORE SHOT LINE 78. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO TESTIFY? I WILL GO.
TRAILING 43, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 43. NO. LET'S TRY LINE. 1 26,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME
IS CYNTHIA JACKSON. I LIVED
ENRICHMENT AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT. UM IT'S G SIX MONTHS
SIX. THANK YOU. LINE. 43 WILL
TRY TO YOU AGAIN. GO AHEAD.
HELLO. THAT'S YOU 43 GO AHEAD.
LOPEZ MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER
RESIDENT OF ONTARIO, CALIFORNIA
IN MEMORY OF PICKY AND ALL THOSE
BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN KILLED TOO
SOON I HEARD A NI BOAT ON SB
616. THANK YOU. 1 66, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. SORRY. THEY WENT BACK
WITH THE OPERATOR. WE'RE GOING
TO GO. OKAY GO AHEAD LINE. 1 66.
CALIFORNIA AND THE FOUNDER OF
FAMILY COURT AWARENESS MINT, AND
I STRONGLY SUPPORT SB 616. THANK
YOU. 54 YOU ARE OPEN. CAN YOU
HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. HELLO KIM.
YES SORRY ABOUT THAT. MY NAME IS
STILL ON THE LINKS HERE. A
FRIEND OF MR ESTEVEZ. IN A
STRONGLY SUPPORT. SB 616. THANK
YOU. AND WE'LL GO TO LINE. FOR 1
48 1 48, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO
MY NAME IS EMMANUEL AND LORD.
I'M RETIRED PRINCIPAL FROM THE
U. S. D. AND THAT IS STRONGLY
SUPPORTS AS THE SIX THANK YOU.
WHY IN 1 64, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO MY NAME IS CARLY HESSEL. I
LIVE IN SACRAMENTO AND I'VE
WORKED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM
MY HOME DEALT LIFE. I'M A
SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I
SINCERELY SUPPORT AS THE 616.
THANK YOU. WHY 200, YOU ARE
OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS
BETSY TO STEAL FROM LOS ANGELES
, CALIFORNIA ANNA IS A DEAR
FRIEND OF MINE, AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT AND URGE YOU TO VOTE FOR
SENATE BILL 616. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LINE. UH, 1 96,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI. MY NAME IS
ANGIE CLAY GRANDMOTHER, TWO
TWINS THAT MY DAUGHTER WAS
ABUSED BY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I'M
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 616.
THANK YOU. LINE 31 YOU ARE OPEN.
YES MY NAME IS DONNA ESTÁ BEST.
I'M PICKY MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER
AND THE SURVIVOR OF MURDER. I
SUPPORT THE 616 AND I URGE YOU
TO VOTE YES. THANK YOU. WE'RE
GONNA WIND 1 52. HELLO THIS IS
JOHN SMITH CALLING FROM MILL
VALLEY, CALIFORNIA. I'M A
PSYCHOLOGIST, AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SENATE BILL 616. THANK
YOU. WHAT? 42, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
42 YOU'RE OPEN. HI. THIS IS
ANGELA FERGUSON FROM WOODLAND
HILLS, CALIFORNIA. I AM UM
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SURVIVOR AND
PROTECTIVE PARENTS. AND I ASK
YOU TO PLEASE SUPPORT OF THE
616. THANK YOU. AND LINE. 44 YOU
ARE OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY
NAME IS ESPERANZA CORMAN. I AM
THE SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE. CURRENTLY A PROTECTIVE
PARENTS HAVE A THREE YEAR OLD
CHILD ABUSE VICTIM STRONGLY
SUPPORT KIKI'S LAW, AND I ASKED
FOR YOUR TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. 9 45, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
YEAH. WE TRIED LINE. 50, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I MY NAME IS NAOMI A
STRAP. I LIVE IN SENTENCE ISCO
AND THE CONCERNED MOTHER AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT SP SIX MONTHS
SIX. THANK YOU. 57 YOU ARE OPEN.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
SHERRY KIÞM AURA AND I'M CALLING
FROM WHITTIER, CALIFORNIA. I AM
A FRIEND OF ANNA ESTEVE ISN'T ON
IT S SERVICE AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SP 616 P G'S LAW. THANK
YOU. WAIT. PLEASE GO AHEAD. 28
YOU ARE OPEN. 28 HELLO. YOU HEAR
ME? YES WE CAN NAME IS ODALIS
MEDIA NOODLE FINANCIAL MIRROR.
LYNCH A SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND THE MOTHER OF A
THREE YEAR OLD THAT WAS HANDED
TO AN ABUSIVE EX CONVICTED
CHALLENGE WITH ALL KINDS OF DRUG
ABUSE, ALCOHOLISM THAT HAS BEEN
PROVEN THANK YOU AFTER HE
DECLARED, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LINE 51 YOU ARE OPEN. AFTERNOON
CLASS CANYON. I AM THE FAMILY OF
THIS. HORRIBLE MHM. I AM. FROM
THE AUTHORITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH
. THANK YOU. YOU ARE OPEN. HI
THIS IS MARTHA CONTRAST FROM
LONG BEACH EDUCATOR, FAMILY AND
FRIENDS OF THE FAMILY AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB 16616
SPEAKEASY. STRONGEST WAY
POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND MY 2 12, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS MARSHALL GREGSON,
PRESIDENT OF SOLVING CALIFORNIA
, SANTA BARBARA COUNTY. I
STRONGLY SUPPORT YES, THE 616.
WE ALSO ARE SURVIVORS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU
TO LINE 59. GOOD AFTERNOON,
EVERYONE. MY NAME IS TONY
ROBBINS. I LIVE IN SAN DIEGO. I
AM A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVOR
, AND I STRONGLY STRONGLY URGE
YOU AND ASK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT
AND SB SIX MONTHS. SIX. THANK
YOU. 1960, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
MY NAME IS LISSETTE MARTINEZ
FRANCHINO, CALIFORNIA I AM
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, VICTIM AND
PROTECTIVE PARENTS. I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB SIX MONTHS LATER.
THANK YOU. LINE 1 71, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANKS FROM COVINA,
CALIFORNIA I AM A CONCERNED
PARENT AND LONGTIME FAMILY
FRIEND OF THE ESTIMATES FAMILY.
I STRONGLY 100% SUPPORT 16.
THANK YOU. 9 85. EXCUSE ME. LINE
TWO. OH, SEVEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
SEVEN. YEAH WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO
LINE 69, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HEY
ELIZABETH DODSON FROM SAN DIEGO
. I AM ADOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
SURVIVOR AND PROTECTIVE PARENT.
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT AT THE
616. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND
NEXT HIS LINE 1 27, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME IS KIMBERLY
RENE. SWEETIE I AM FROM THE LAW
OFFICE OF KIMBERLY ARE SWEATY
AND PALO ALTO, CALIFORNIA I AM A
PRO BONO FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY AS
WELL AS A PROTECTIVE MOTHER. I
STRONGLY SUPPORT IN THE MOST
STRONG WAY POSSIBLE. PINKY'S
LAW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LINE
1 19, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY
NAME IS MICHELLE TELECAST AND I
LIVE IN HACIENDA HEIGHTS IN L. A
COUNTY. I AM A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
SURVIVOR AND A PROTECTIVE
PARENTS TO ABUSED CHILDREN GOING
TO FAMILY COURT RIGHT NOW. I
STRONGLY SUPPORT SP 616. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. 1 97, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO I AM SARA KOWALCZYK
. I'M FROM SAN FRANCISCO,
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT THANK YOU. AND NEXT IS
LYING. 204. HELLO THIS SYSTEM
ACACIA. I'M FROM EAST TO
CALIFORNIA. I'M A DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE IF YOU SURVIVOR AND I
AM A PROTECTIVE PARENTS OF ABUSE
, EIGHT YEAR OLD TWINS, I AM
STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF SB SIX
AND SIX FLAW. THANK YOU. FIVE.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI. MY NAME IS
GINA GARCIA. I'M CALLING FROM
VENTURA, CALIFORNIA AND DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE ALONG WITH THE MOTHER
OF AN EIGHT YEAR OLD. I BEG YOU
TO SUPPORT THIS 16. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LINE TWO. OH, THREE.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
CARRIE ANGLE AND I'M IN SAN
DIEGO, CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
STRONGLY SUPPORT KIKI'S LAW. 616
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SIX.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
TRACY HORRELL. I'M FROM UPLAND,
CALIFORNIA AND STRONGLY
STRONGLY SUPPORT. UM KIKI'S LOST
616. THANK YOU. LYING TO SEVEN.
YOU ARE OPEN. HI MY NAME IS DR
LAUREN BROOM AND I LIVE IN LOS
ANGELES AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
THE 616. THANK YOU. 9 73, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS JOHN
MANTLES AND I LIVE IN SAN DIEGO
MIKE. THREE CHILDREN OR CHILD
SEXUAL ABUSE AND REUNIFICATION
CAMP SURVIVORS WITH DIAGNOSED
PTSD AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE
26. THANK YOU. ONE. OH, ONE. MY
NAME IS ANDY SCHOLES. GASSER I
LIVE IN SAN DIEGO. I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB 616 AS I HAVE BRAIN
CELLS AND COMPASSION. IN 1. 12,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. OKAY WE'RE
GONNA TRY LINE 65. YES MY NAME
IS ANTHONY LYNCH. AND I'M WITH
TIM. SIMMER OVER THE RAINBOW,
FACEBOOK AND I STRONGLY STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB 616. MIGHT 70 THANK
YOU. 74, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY
NAME IS ANYAKAPLAN. LADERA
RANCH, CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB 616. THANK YOU. SO UH
, NEXT LANE 80, YOU ARE OPEN.
FIRST CITIES, CASTRO ADDUCED TO
CALIFORNIA AND I URGE YOU TO
SUPPORT 616. THANK YOU. AND
WE'LL GO TO LINE 2 18, YOU ARE
OPEN. KIM ROBINSON, FAMILY LAW
ATTORNEY IN OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA
AND SUPPORTING THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MODERATOR. TWO
MORE CALLERS. OKAY, UM. WE HAVE
TO. WE HAVE ABOUT 15 LEFT. YOU
JUST WANT ME TO TAKE THIS IN
ORDER HERE, OKAY? YES, JUST TWO
MORE. OKAY, 83, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO. MY NAME IS WONDERFUL CAVA
FROM A LIFE. LONG FAMILY FRIEND
OF FAMILY AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
SB 616. AND OUR FINAL ONE. THEN
WE'LL COME FROM LINE 1 49. HELLO
YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU
HEAR ME? WE CAN. MY NAME IS LIZ
PHILLIPS AND I AM FROM WOMAN TO
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SP 16. IN 62. I THINK
I'M SORRY. UM MY NEPHEW WAS
MURDERED. AND, UM, THANK YOU,
MA'AM. WE APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
LET'S NOW TURN TO THE OPPOSITION
AS I MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO. UM
WE PROVIDED 12 MINUTES TO THE
SUPPORT WILL PROVIDE 12 MINUTES
IF THEY SHOULD SO CHOOSE TO USE
THAT TIME TO THE OPPOSITION. I
BELIEVE WE HAVE VIRGINIA
GRIFFIN, DONNELL AND PETRA DETER
HERE. SO WHOMEVER WOULD LIKE TO
COME FIRST. PLEASE APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE. GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN. THANK
YOU. AND THANK YOU TO THE
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M
VIRGINIA GRIFFIN, DANIELLE. I'M
A ATTORNEYAND A PSYCHOLOGIST,
AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU,
MOTHER. AND WHILE I'M OPPOSING
THE BILL, WE I BELIEVE ARE ALL
ON THE SAME PAGE. HERE WE ARE
ALL CONCERNED, AND I THINK I CAN
SPEAK FREELY FOR EVERYONE THAT
NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE WOMEN
ABUSED OR CHILDREN ABUSED AND WE
SHARE IN OUR CONDOLENCES TO THIS
FAMILY. AS WE KNOW. ABUSE OCCURS
IN SEVERAL FORMS. WE CAN HAVE
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WE CAN HAVE
COERCIVE CONTROL. WE CAN HAVE
INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE, AND
THERE'S ANOTHER FORM OF ABUSE
CALLED PARENTAL ALIENATION,
WHICH IS THE FLIP SIDE OF THE
COIN WITH COERCIVE CONTROL. NOT
EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS PARENTAL
ALIENATION. BUT I WANT TO
ADDRESS SENATOR RUBIO'S COMMENT
THAT THERE MIGHT BE A BLIND SPOT
IN THE BILL. THERE IS A BLIND
SPOT IN THE BILL. AND I WOULD
LIKE TO BRING THAT TO THE COURT
TO THIS TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION.
SO CURRENTLY, THE PROBLEM WITH
THE SENATE BILL IS THAT IT TIES
THE HANDS OF OUR JUDGES BECAUSE
THERE IS A MANDATE IN THE BILL
THAT THE COURT SHALL NOT ORDER
FAMILY REUNIFICATION SERVICES.
ESSENTIALLY. I WANT TO ADDRESS
FIRST THE SENATE BILL 1 41 THAT
SENATOR RUBIO PASSED IN
SEPTEMBER OF 2020. THAT BILL WAS
BECAME LAW IN JANUARY OF 2021.
IT'S CALLED THE COURSE OF
CONTROL BILL. OFTEN I'M IN THE
TRENCHES, ARGUING FOR THE COURSE
OF CONTROL BENEFITS FOR FAMILIES
OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. YOU KNOW,
IN ESSENCE WITH THIS SB 11 41
WHICH CHANGED OUR FAMILY CODE. I
CAN GO PULL CHILDREN WITH THE
COURT. I CAN HAVE THE COURT
PULLED CHILDREN FROM
DOMESTICALLY VIOLENT HOMES AND
HAVE AN EX PARTE APPLICATION TO
PUT THE CHILDREN IN THE HANDS OF
A PROTECTIVE PARENT. SENATE BILL
616, HOWEVER, PRECLUDES ME FROM
GOING IN TO GET THE SAME REMEDY
IN COURT THAT I NEED ON BEHALF
OF CHILDREN THAT ARE BEING
ALIENATED. SO LET ME EXPLAIN
PARENTAL ALIENATION. PARENTAL
ALIENATION IS A FORM OF
PSYCHOLOGICAL CHILD ABUSE, WHERE
IN ONE PARENT WEAPONIZED AS A
CHILD. TO HARM THE OTHER PARENT
. IT'S PART OF THE CYCLE OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND IT'S
OVERLOOKED IN THIS BILL. IMAGINE
A MOTHER WHO SPENDS 10 YEARS IN
A DOMESTICALLY VIOLENT HOME WITH
THREE CHILDREN, HER HUSBAND
VERBALLY ABUSES OR PHYSICALLY
ABUSES HER ANDWHEN SHE DECIDES
TO GET OUT BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO
PROTECT HERSELF AND HER
CHILDREN, HE SAYS, IF YOU LEAVE
ME, YOU'LL NEVER SEE THE
CHILDREN AGAIN. AND LET'S SEE HE
HAS VAST RESOURCES AND HE CAN GO
TO COURT AND HE CAN GET THE
COURT TO ALLOW HIM TO KEEP THE
CHILDREN BECAUSE HE'S CONVINCED
THE CHILDREN THROUGH COERCIVE
CONTROL TO REJECT THEIR LOVING
MOTHER. THIS IS CHILD ABUSE.
THIS IS INTIMATE PARTNER
VIOLENCE, AND THIS IS AN
OVERLOOKED BLIND SPOT IN THE
SENATE BILL. WHILE WE'RE ALL ON
THE SAME PAGE FOR PROTECTION OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, CHILD ABUSE
OF YOU INTIMATE PARTNER
VIOLENCE. I WANT TO BRING THIS
TO THE COMMITTEE'S ATTENTION.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE SUPPORT
OF SITE IS INCORRECT WITH REGARD
TO THE MONEY. THIS ISN'T WORTH
$25 MILLION. THIS IS WORTH $273
AND 273 $909. OVER THE NEXT FOUR
YEARS. AND THAT COMES STRAIGHT
FROM THE A. B A. AND I HAVE THE
PROOF OF IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD
LIKE TO SEE IT IN WRITING. SO I
URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO NOT BE
FOOLED. WE WANT TO BE THE LEADER
. CALIFORNIA WANTS TO BE THE
LEADER, THE FIRST TO ADOPT THE
BILL THAT MIRRORS THE IMAGE OF
THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT.
LET'S BE THE LEADER AND NOT THE
LAUGHING STOCK OF THIS COUNTRY
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT EVERYTHING
THAT STARTS IN CALIFORNIA
RIPPLES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE
URGE YOU TO PLEASE RECONSIDER
THE LANGUAGE AND MAKE THE
APPROPRIATE AMENDMENTS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT
PETRA DETER. PETRA DETER HERE OR
ON THE PHONE. I'M ON THE PHONE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO
AHEAD. OKAY THANK YOU. HELLO UM
, UM DR PETRA DID A RESEARCHER
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF MEDICINE
SCHOOL OF PSYCHOLOGY AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF TASMANIA
SPECIALIZING IN CHILD
PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE. I AM ALSO A
SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
AND I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT
MADE A MOVIE AND ACTIVELY
PROMOTED SENATOR RUBIO'S
COERCIVE CONTROL BILL THAT
VIRGINIA MENTIONED. UH I'M
REPRESENTING THE HERO CIRCLE, AN
ORGANIZATION THAT CONSISTS
ENTIRELY OF THE ADULT CHILDREN
OF PARENTAL ALIENATION THE
CHILDREN THAT WERE
PSYCHOLOGICALLY ABUSED. AS A
RESULT, UM AND LOTS OF
RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE OF OUR
PARENTS. TODAY I'M SPEAKING TO
YOU AS A CALIFORNIA CONSTITUENTS
AS A RELATED RELATED
PROFESSIONAL AND MORE
IMPORTANTLY, AND WE PRESENTING A
PARTICULAR SEGMENT OF CHILDREN
POPULATION. WHO WILL BE DIRECTLY
IMPACTED BY THIS PROPOSED BAR
AND LIKE, UM VIRGINIA MENTIONED
THE BLIND SPOT GROUP OF PEOPLE.
I APPLAUSE AND GRATEFUL FOR YOUR
EFFORT IN TRYING TO PROTECT
CHILDREN. HOWEVER EVEN WITH GOOD
INTENTIONS, THIS BILL OVERLOOK
THE IMPORTANT ISSUE OF CHILD
PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE, UM AND
INCLUDING WHAT WAS MENTIONED IN
PICKING MOTHER'S TESTIMONY. THIS
BILL IS PASSED, WOULD PROHIBIT
THEIR QUOTE FROM ORDERING
REUNIFICATION. TAPPY BENEFICIAL
THERAPEUTIC TOOL USED TO
EFFECTIVELY REUNITE FAMILIES,
WHICH IS PARAMOUNT. I'M AWARE AT
LEAST SOME PEER REVIEW, UM,
PUBLICATION REGARDING THE
REUNIFICATION, REALLY READING
THE STATION PROGRAM AND WOULD BE
HAPPY TO SEND THE EXACT
REFERENCE TO EVERYONE IN THE
COMMITTEE. I KNOW SOMEONE
TESTIFIED EARLIER MENTIONED THAT
THERE WAS NO PERIOD VIEW. THAT'S
NOT CORRECT. UM AND, UM IF THERE
WAS ALLEGED MISUSE OF
REUNIFICATION THERAPY THAT
SHOULD BE ADDRESSED
APPROPRIATELY WITH DISCIPLINARY
OR EVEN CRIMINAL CHARGES, IF
WARRANTED. THE SOLUTION IS NOT
TO BEND THE THERAPY. WE DON'T
ABOLISH THE MEDICAL FIELD
BECAUSE OF SOME BAD DOCTORS. THE
BILL, REFERENCES CUT OFF AND
BONDAGE, WHICH HAS PSYCHOLOGICAL
TERMS RELATED TO ATTACHMENT
THEORY. CHILD DEVELOPMENT
STUDIES EXPLAIN THE CURE
ATTACHMENT, SELF AND ALSO
NEGATIVE PATHOGENIC ATTACHMENT,
WHICH DETRIMENTAL TO THE CHILD.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S WE ASKED
THEM REACTIVE ATTACHMENT
DISORDER IS ONE OF THE DISORDER
OR PATHOLOGICAL ATTACHMENT STYLE
THAT IS ACTUALLY LISTED IN THE D
. S M FIVE, WHICH IS THE MANUAL
FOR CENTRAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS. SO WHEN THE
PATHOGENIC ATTACHMENTS ARE
CAUSED BY MANIPULATION,
BRAINWASHING AND PROGRAMMING,
THE CHILD IS PSYCHOLOGICALLY
ABUSED, AND THIS BILL IS
PREVENTING ABUSE CHILDREN FROM
BEING RESCUED. SO MY FATHER WAS
NOT ABUSIVE. THERE WAS NO SUCH
CLAIM OF VIOLENCE FROM ANYONE,
INCLUDING MY MOTHER, THAT MOTHER
AND STEP SIBLINGS BUT MY MOTHER
PROGRAM AND BRAINWASHED ME TO
REJECT HIM. AND PREVENTED ME
FROM HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH
HIM. AND AS A CHILD, I WAS
BONDED WITH HER. WITHOUT
REUNIFICATIONS THERAPY. I GREW
UP WITHOUT A FATHER AND THAT
NEGATIVELY IMPACTED ALL ASPECTS
OF MY LIFE EVEN TODAY. MY ADULT
. WHEN I REALIZED THE ABUSE THAT
I LIVED THROUGH AND THAT I
REJECTED MY FATHER, AND
JUSTIFIABLY IT WAS TO MY FATHER
HAD PASSED. I WAS NEVER ABLE TO
HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
SORRY IT'S NOT JUST MY STORY OF
ALL THE MEMBERS IN OUR
ORGANIZATION AND MANY MORE
RESEARCH FROM COLORADO STATE
UNIVERSITY FOUND THAT CHILDREN
LIKE MYSELF THREE TIMES NUMBER,
THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN WITH
AUTISM. THE NEXT POINT I HAD
REGARDING THE TRAINING JUST LAST
WEEK, THE NATIONAL HOUSEHOLD OF
JUVENILE AND FAMILY COURT JUDGES
AND ASSOCIATION OF FAMILY AND
CONCILIATION PORTS RELEASED A
JOINT STATEMENT THAT TRAINING
SHOULD CONSIST OF VARIOUS
FACTORS, INCLUDING INTIMATE
PARTNER VIOLENCE. MISUSE HIGH
CONFLICT DENIGRATION, PARENTAL,
ALIENATING BEHAVIORS AND HEALTHY
PARENTING. NOW THESE TWO
ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENT
PROFESSIONAL IN THE CHANGES.
THEY ARE JUDGES AND THE FAMILY
LAW JUDGES. THEY ARE LAWYERS,
THERAPISTS. THEY ARE MEDIATORS,
AND SO ON. THEY SHOULD HAVE A
VOICE IN THE TRAINING. AND WHEN
YOU LOOK AT THIS JOINT STATEMENT
BY THIS VERY IMPORTANT
ORGANIZATION, THE BILL IS
GROSSLY MISSING. THE NUMBER OF
FACTORS THAT NEEDED TO BE
INCLUDED IN THE TRAINING AND IN
PARTICULARLY DENIGRATION AND
PARENTAL ALIENATING BEHAVIORS.
FINALLY STILL IS IN AN EFFORT
FOR CALIFORNIA TO BE ELIGIBLE
FOR THE STUFF FUN. UM AS
VIRGINIA MENTIONED ALREADY THE
EXACT INFORMATION PROVIDED AND
CONFIRMED BY BOTH THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN BAR
ASSOCIATION ABOUT THE FUNDING IS
THAT IF EVERY STATE WAS TO
REPEAT THE MAXIMUM INCREASE TO
IN THE SOUTHERN WORDS IN
FINANCIAL YOUTH, AND I'M READING
THEIR WRITING IN FINANCIAL YEAR
2022. THE AVERAGE INCREASE WOULD
BE 273,900. STATE FOR YEARS FOR
THE MAXIMUM OF FOUR YEARS. SO
YOU ARE BOARDING ON A PERMANENT
LAW THAT HAD PERMANENT LASTING
IMPACT ON CHILDREN'S LIFE FOR
ONLY FOUR YEARS OF SMALL AMOUNTS
ON DATES. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
THAT YOU CONSIDER YOUR VOTE
CAREFULLY AND REALIZING THAT
THIS FEELS NEEDS TO BE AMENDED
BEFORE IT IS PASSED. I
RESPECTFULLY URGE THAT YOU'VE
GOT NO ON THIS BILL. THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
OR ANY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY
NEXT, LET'S TURN TO THOSE WHO
ARE HERE IN THE CHAMBER IN
OPPOSITION TO SB 6 16 IF YOU
WOULD APPROACH THE MICROPHONE
GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR
AFFILIATION AND YOUR POSITION,
AS I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET
WILL BE TAKING 15 MINUTES ON THE
PHONE OF WHAT WE CALL ME TO
TESTIMONY. GO AHEAD, MA'AM. ANDY
LEMON BALM, RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION JUDICIAL COUNCIL OF
CALIFORNIAAND WE ALSO HAVE
JUDGE MARLA ANDERSON HERE ON THE
PHONE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
ALREADY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CRAIG DUNWOODY. I'M A PROTECTIVE
PARENT OF FOUR BEAUTIFUL
DAUGHTERS, A SURVIVOR AND NEVER
GET FOR STRONGER PROTECTIONS
AGAINST CHILD AND PARTNER ABUSE
. I STRONGLY OPPOSED THE CURRENT
FORM OF SB 616 PRIOR TO FURTHER
AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE
ELSE HERE IN THE CHAMBER
APPROACHING MICROPHONE, LET'S
TURN TO THE PHONE LINES.
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD QUEUE UP
THE THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION
TO SB 6 16. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR
STATED. IF YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION
TO SB 6 16 PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME WHEN FOLLOWED BY A
ZERO. AND WE ARE GETTING
PARTICIPANTS QUEUING UP ONE
MOMENT, MR CHAIR. EVERYBODY ELSE
, PLEASE. PRESS 10 IF YOU'RE IN
OPPOSITION TO SB 6 16. UM,
SPEAKERS ARE CO HOST WITNESSES.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PRESS 10.%
YOUR LINES ARE OPEN. START WITH
LINE 202, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI.
MY NAME IS MELISSA FOSTER FROM
BAKERSFIELD. TODAY I'M
REPRESENTING RESPECTFULLY
PACKED. I'M ALSO. VERY SMALL DUE
TO A HIGH CONFLICT DIVORCE.
STRONGLY OPPOSED 616 ALREADY.
THANK YOU. 48, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
DO YOU EAT? YOU'RE OPEN. HELLO.
MY NAME IS UM. JUST UH I'M NOT
SURE BECAUSE I'M ON THE
CONFERENCE CALL, BUT THAT WAS
NOT GIVEN A LINE. ALRIGHT YOU'RE
ON. GO AHEAD YOUR NAME YOUR
AFFILIATION IN YOUR POSITION. MY
NAME IS DAVID BELL TRIN. I AM A
SURVIVOR AND A PROTECTIVE
PARENTS. AND RESPECTFULLY, UM, I
AM POSING AS 6.6 BECAUSE OF THE
NEW YORK THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. RIGHT NOW. 1
99, YOU ARE OPEN. 1 99, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. 1 99. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO TESTIFY? WELL, WE'LL TRY LINE
TO 30, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE
OPPOSED BILL. THANK YOU. AND
WE'LL TRY LINE TO 34. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. 2 34, YOU ARE OPEN. 9 TO
34. ALRIGHT LINE. 87, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS REAL. AND
I'M HERE REPRESENTING MOTHERS
AGAINST CHILD ABUSE AS LONG AS
WELL, UH, ALSO WITH 38 OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING KIDS
HUG MOTHER IS AGAINST CHILD
ABUSE COLORADO COALITION FOR
BOYS AND MEN. KIDS NEED BOTH.
FATHERS AGAINST DISCRIMINATION,
FAMILY ACCESS FIGHTING FOR
CHILDREN'S RIGHT P A. S
INTERVENTION. CHICAGO UNITED
PARENTS NATIONAL PARENTS,
ORGANIZATION, SERVICE MEMBERS
AND VETERANS FOR CHILDREN'S
RIGHTS, PARENTAL ALIENATION,
VIRTUE INSTITUTE PARENTAL
ALIENATION STUDY GROUP
INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL ON SHARED
PARENTING. FAMILY ADVOCATE
NETWORK POLITICAL ACTION
COMMITTEE ALLIANCE OF PARENTAL
ALIENATION AND FAMILY
REUNIFICATION PRACTITIONERS.
COALITION TO END DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE FIND MY PARENTS
INTERNATIONAL SUPPORT NETWORK
FOR ALIEN NEEDED PARENTS TO
HEROES CIRCLE TOGETHER FOR
CHANGES. VICTIM TO HERO%
INSTITUTE RESPECTFULLY PACKED.
PORTUGUESE ASSOCIATION FOR
PARENTAL EQUALITY OF LEGAL
RIGHTS. BOYS MENTORING ALREADY,
MA'AM, ARE I ASSUME THOSE
ORGANIZATIONS ARE IN OPPOSITION?
IS THAT CORRECT? YES ALONG WITH
THE 38 ORGANIZATIONS, ALRIGHT
WITHOUT AMENDMENT. THANK YOU SIX
MONTHS, OKAY? AND MR CHAIR IS NO
OTHER PARTICIPANTS QUEUED UP.
OKAY UH, SAYING NO OTHER
INDIVIDUALS TESTIFY AND
SUPPORTED OPPOSITION. LET'S
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. UM
OTHER QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. OKAY SEEING ME. I
ACTUALLY WAS NOT GIVEN AN
OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY. ALRIGHT
YOU YOUR NAME YOUR AFFILIATION
YOUR POSITION. SHE DIDN'T CURE
MR CHAIR. THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE
WITNESSES. APPARENTLY THAT WHOSE
LINES OPEN SORRY. I WAS ACTUALLY
A DESIGNATED WITNESS TO TAKE THE
15 MINUTES OF TIME, ALONG WITH
VIRGINIA O DONNELL AND PETRA.
I'M SORRY. YOUR NAME. YOUR
AFFILIATION ARE YOUR NAME NAME
IS MY NAME IS J. D BELL, TRINE
AND I'M FROM SAN FRANCISCO,
CALIFORNIA AND I AM UM, OF
SURVIVOR AND A PROTECTIVE PARENT
. ALRIGHT. ARE YOU IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION? I'M IN OPPOSITION
ALREADY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY, LET'S BRING IT BACK NOW TO
THE COMMITTEE. UM OTHER
QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
SEEING? NO, I'M SORRY, SENATOR
BORDERS. THANK YOU CHAIR AND I
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
WORKING WITH THE CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE ON THIS ONE OF THE
RESERVATIONS. I INITIALLY HAD.
WAS WELL AS MERITORIOUS AS
EDUCATION AND CONTINUING
EDUCATION ARE THERE ARE SOME
CONCERNS THAT WE'RE JUST
BUILDING AND BUILDING A
CURRICULA. ON TOP OF THOSE THAT
WORK IN THE SYSTEM. UH WE'VE
GONE THROUGH CULTURAL
SENSITIVITIES IN YOU NAME IT
CONTINUING EDUCATION? WHAT I
WHAT I FOUND HELPFUL HERE IS
THAT THIS? ACCORDING TO THE
AMENDMENTS IS THAT THIS WILL BE
SWEPT INTO THE ONGOING
EXPECTATION OF CONTINUING
EDUCATION. AH MAYBE YOU CHAIR OR
EVEN THE AUTHOR COULD EXPLAIN
THAT FURTHER. AND THEN I'LL
CONCLUDE HERE THAT SOME OF THE
TESTIMONY THAT I HEARD WAS
CERTAINLY RIVETING. UM AND I
KNOW THAT WE'RE BIFURCATING THIS
THIS BILL AND KINDA UNUSUAL WAY
WHEREBY THE TERMS OF THE
CURRICULA ARE GOING TO BE
ATTACHED TO ANOTHER BILL THAT
CAN UPON SUCCESS CONDITIONS. THE
INTRODUCTION OF THIS VEHICLE TO
THE FLOOR AND IF YOU COULD JUST
CONFIRM THAT THIS IS HOW IT WILL
PLAY OUT. THAT'D BE GREAT. UM,
SENATOR RUBIO. AH! FIRST YOUR
ORIGINAL ASSUMPTION IS CORRECT
WITH RESPECT TO THE ASSUMPTION
OF THE RECORDS THAT HOURS WITHIN
THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT, THAT'S
THAT'S ACCURATE. THE SECOND IS
THAT AND I RECOGNIZE THIS IS A
BIT UNUSUAL IS THAT MY
EXPECTATION IS THAT THERE WILL
BE A MOTION TO AH PASSED THE
AMENDMENTS TO THE FLOOR FOR
CONSIDERATION, WHICH IS UNLIKE
OTHER MOTIONS THAT TYPICALLY ARE
MADE UM, AND THAT IF IT RECEIVES
ENOUGH VOTES THAT WILL GO TO THE
FLOOR. IT WILL BE HELD ON THE
FLOOR. UM WAS SENATOR RUBIO'S
AGREEMENT? UM UNTIL, UH, THE.
EDUCATIONAL AMENDMENTS ARE
INCORPORATED INTO ANOTHER BILL,
WHICH WILL ACTUALLY COME TO THE
FLOOR AND BE HEARD. I REALIZED
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL. IF
THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION,
SENATOR RUBIO DOES THAT YOUR
UNDERSTANDING? YES ABSOLUTELY
DISGUSTED, AND SO I JUST WANTED
TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW IT'S
UNUSUAL, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS
THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD, AND I
BELIEVE YOU EXPRESSED HIM
EARLIER. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU, AND I'LL AND I'LL
COME COMPLETELY CONCLUDE HERE.
AH, THAT I REPRESENT 11 COUNTIES
IN MY SENATE-DISTRICT AND SOME
OF THOSE JUDICIAL DISTRICTS ARE
ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMED. AND IN
PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN
POPULATION CENTER THAT I
REPRESENT HAS SOME OF THE
BUSIEST DOCKETS IN CALIFORNIA.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M I'M A LITTLE.
I WAS INITIALLY HESITANT TO ADD
MORE CONTINUING EDUCATION. TO
THE FOLKS THAT WORK IN THE
SYSTEM JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE SO
OVERWHELMED, BUT THIS IS A
MERITORIOUS TYPE OF EDUCATION.
AND I'M HOPEFUL AS THIS GOES
THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT MAYBE
THERE IS A CAPPED OUR AMOUNT OF
CONTINUING EDUCATION FOR FOLKS
IN THE SYSTEM SO THAT WE DON'T
CONTINUOUSLY ADD ON AN
ADDITIONAL 15 2030 HOURS,
DEPENDING ON THE DIFFERENT AREAS
OF LEGAL INTEREST, OR OR OR
SPECIAL CONCERNS BECAUSE AT SOME
POINT THE SYSTEM IS JUST GONNA
BREAK AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT
YOU AND OTHERS TO CONSIDER WHAT
WE'RE ADDING ONTO BURDENSOME
CASELOAD ALREADY. THANK YOU. I
HEAR YOUR CONCERNS. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU,
SENATOR. GORGEOUS UM, SEEING NO
OTHER, UM QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
? IS THERE A MOTION THAT THE
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE TAKEN UP
FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE FLOOR?
MAY I CLOSE? WELL I'M GONNA
ASSUMING THERE'S A MOTION I'M
GOING TO TURN TO YOU FOR YOUR
CLOTHES. ALL RIGHT? WELL I KNOW
IT'S AGAINST PROTOCOL FOR THE
CHAIR TO MAKE A MOTION AND
THERE'S ONLY TWO HERE RIGHT NOW
. UM I WILL MAKE I WILL MAKE A
MOTION THAT THIS BILL AMENDMENTS
THE ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE TAKEN
UP FOR CONSIDERATION. AT THE
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE TAKEN UP
CONSIDERATION AND UPON APPROVAL
CONDITION THE VEHICLE OF THIS UH
, OF THIS BILL. UH THAT WOULD BE
CONDITIONED ON THE PASSAGE OF
THOSE AMENDMENTS. IS THAT
CORRECT? NOT QUITE. JUST WALK ME
THROUGH IT. JUST THAT THE MOTION
IS AT LEAST WHAT? WHAT I'M
THINKING IS THAT THE MOTION IS
SIMPLY THAT THE ASSEMBLY
AMENDMENTS BE TAKEN UP FOR
CONSIDERATION. THAT'S IT. THAT'S
IT. WOW. OKAY I WILL REPEAT, YOU
WILL ALLOW THAT ASSEMBLY
AMENDMENTS BE TAKEN UP FOR
CONSIDERATION. TAKEN UP FOR
CONSIDERATION, OKAY? ALRIGHT UM
, THANK YOU FOR THAT MOTION.
RUBIO CLOSE. THANK YOU. AND I DO
APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS FROM
ALL THE CALLERS, WHETHER YOU'RE
AN OPPOSITION OR SUPPORTING THE
BILL. I KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY
PERSONAL ISSUE. AND UM, I KNOW
THAT WE TALK ABOUT MONEY AND
HOURS OF TRAINING AND STRESSES
ON THE SYSTEMS, WHICH I
RECOGNIZE, AND, UH I JUST DON'T
WANT THE MESSAGE TO BE LOST AT
THE CORE OF THIS BILL IS SAVING
OUR CHILDREN SAVING LIVES AND,
UM, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT. I
UNDERSTAND THAT, UM SENATOR
BORDERS WAS DISCUSSING HOW THE
SYSTEM IS STRESSED. BUT I WANT
TO POINT OUT THAT THE
LEGISLATURE ALLOCATED $5.2
BILLION THIS YEAR IN THE BUDGET
TO ENSURE THAT WE GIVE THEM SOME
SUPPORT. UM BUT ONE IS YOUR ONE
LAST THING. LAST MONTH, I HAD A
PRESS CONFERENCE AND I HAD A
POSTER OF THE CHILDREN THAT HAVE
DIED AT THE HANDS OF AN ABUSIVE
PARENT THE FOLLOWING WEEK. BY
THE TIME I HAD THE PRESS
CONFERENCE, THAT NUMBER HAD
CHANGED. AND WITH ME I HAD YES,
WE VELASQUEZ 23, WHO WAS SHOT
SIX YEAR OLD ANGEL, WHO WAS ALSO
SHOT HAD JUST GRADUATED FROM
KINDERGARTEN. BOTH IN MY CITY.
UM, A WEEK LATER. SO AS I
EARLIER STATED THERE WAS 860
CHILDREN SHOT AND I JUST PICKED
UP AN ARTICLE RIGHT THIS SECOND
AS WE'RE DEBATING THIS SIX YEAR
OLD GIRL AND FATHER DEAD IN
APPARENT MURDER SUICIDE AFTER A
CUSTODY DISPUTE. THAT'S WHAT'S
THIS PAST SUNDAY, SO THE NUMBERS
KEEP PILING ON AND PILING NOT
AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
AGAIN, THE CORE ISSUE HERE,
WHICH IS WE NEED TO GET IT
RIGHT. AND WE NEED TO SAVE
CHILDREN. SO THANK YOU FOR
LISTENING TO THIS BILL. THANK
YOU, MR ROMBERG. THANK YOU,
SENATOR RUBIO AND JUST ONE LAST
FINAL WORD WITH RESPECT, MR
ESTEVEZ. I DID. ASSESSED AS. UM
NOT HERE. BUT I DID. I DID
COMMIT TO CONTINUING THIS
BECAUSE THIS IS A CONTINUING
CHALLENGE AND A CHALLENGE THAT
THAT THAT I HAVE AGREED. AND I
KNOW SENATOR RUBIO HAS ALSO
AGREED TO CONTINUE TO MEET. ALL
RIGHT. SO HAVING SAID THAT THE
MOTION IS BY SENATOR BOARD IS
THAT THE ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE
TAKEN UP FOR CONSIDERATION.
MADAM SECRETARY, IF YOU WOULD
CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER ONE SB 616 BY SENATOR
RUBIO. THE MOTION IS THAT THE
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE TAKEN UP
FOR CONSIDERATION. HAMBURG
HAMBURG I BORE GIS. WE'RE JUST I
CABALLERO, RUSSELL GONZALES.
HERTZBERG. JONES. JONES. I
LAYERED. STERN WIECKOWSKI
WIENER. WIENER I YOU HAVE 4 TO 0
WITH MEMBERS MISSING. THANK YOU.
UM WE'LL PUT THAT ON CALL. THANK
YOU, SENATOR RUBIO. ALRIGHT.
NEXT SENATOR NEWMAN. SENATOR
NEWMAN HAS BEEN MOST PATIENT.
HERE S B 11 31. RIGHT?
JUST WAITING FOR THE SIGN. MR
CHAIR. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
YOURS THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING,
MR CHAIR, SENATOR WIENER. I'M
PLEASED TO PRESENT SP 11 31,
WHICH IS BACK WITH AMENDMENTS
FROM THE ASSEMBLY. AS YOU RECALL
WHEN THIS BILL WAS ORIGINALLY
HEARD IN THIS COMMITTEE EXTENDED
IMPORTANT PROTECTIONS TO
ELECTION OFFICIALS BY MAKING
THEM ELIGIBLE FOR PARTICIPATION
IN CALIFORNIA SAFE AT HOME
PROGRAM. AMENDMENTS TAKEN IN THE
ASSEMBLY EXPANDED THE
ELIGIBILITY FOR INCLUSION BEYOND
ELECTION AND HEALTHCARE WORKERS
WHO ARE WHO ARE INCLUDING THE
ORIGINAL SAFE AT HOME, ENABLING
LEGISLATION. TO ALL PUBLIC
EMPLOYEES AND OTHERS PERFORMING
GOVERNMENT CONTRACTING WORK, WHO
FIND THEMSELVES THE SUBJECT OF
CREDIBLE THREATS ARISING FROM
THAT WORK, WHILE PUBLIC SERVICE
CAN OFTEN BE CHALLENGING AND AT
TIMES, UNAVOIDABLY BOUND UP IN
THE CONTROVERSIES OF THE DAY, NO
PUBLIC EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE FORCED
TO WORRY ABOUT THREATS ARISING
FROM THEIR SERVICE, INVADING
THEIR PERSONAL LIFE OR DEPRIVING
THEM OF PEACE OF MIND HERE WITH
ME TODAY TO TESTIFY VIA PHONE OR
GALLERY, RAMACHANDRAN FROM THE
BRENNAN CENTER FOR JUSTICE AND
FAITH BORDERS FROM CALIFORNIA
ADVOCATES. I AM RESPECTFULLY
ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE TODAY
ALREADY. THANK YOU, UM, FAITH
BORDERS IF YOU'RE HERE IF YOU
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE ON THE
PHONE BY PHONE, ALRIGHT.
ALRIGHT. UM FAITH BORDERS IF
YOU'D IDENTIFY YOURSELF. ALL
RIGHT. GO AHEAD, REMEMBER? THANK
YOU. GORGEOUS, REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
PRUDENCE AND OFFICERS AND THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF JOINT
POWERS AUTHORITY, BUT ALSO
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A BROADER
COALITION OF PUBLIC ENTITY,
EMPLOYERS IN THE AMENDED VERSION
OF THE BILL BEFORE YOU TODAY,
I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY THANKING
SOME OF THE NEWMAN FOR HIS WORK
ON THIS LIFE SAVING LEGISLATION
AND WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE AMENDMENTS
TO THE BILL WERE CRAFTED,
THOUGHTFUL COLLABORATION WITH
YOUR COUNTERPARTS IN THE
ASSEMBLY MISSIONARY COMMITTEE,
CALLED THE BILL WAS PASSED WITH
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND NO NO
VOTES. AT THE 11 31 PROVIDES AN
OPTION FOR OUR MEMBERS TO LIMIT
THEIR EXPOSURE TO HARASSMENT,
THREATS AND ACTS OF VIOLENCE
FROM THE PUBLIC ADULT FROM THEIR
WORK SERVING THEIR COMMUNITIES
AND OUR STATES. JUST STARTED THE
PROVENANCE, EASY, ENDEMIC
HARASSMENT, THREATS AND ACTS OF
VIOLENCE TARGETING OUR MEMBERS
HAVE BECOME MORE FREQUENT AND
SERIOUS AND SOME INSTANCES THE
THREATS FOLLOW THEM TO THEIR
HOMES AFTER WORKING TO ENSURE
FREE INTER ELECTIONS TO MAINTAIN
SCHOOL STONES STICK IN FRONT
HUMAN TRAFFICKERS AND SOME WARDS
OR THROUGH THEIR CONSTANT CIVIL
SERVICE WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
MENTALLY ILL. OUR MEMBERS HAVE
BEEN CHARGED WITH IMPLEMENTING
AND ENFORCING COVID RELATED
ROLES AND UPHOLDING PUBLIC
HEALTH MANDATES, WHICH HAVE
CAUSED SIGNIFICANT HOSTILITY AND
THAT'S RISK. OUR MEMBERS AND
COALITION PARTNERS PARTNERS IN
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER RISK TO THEIR
HEALTH AND SAFETY AND AT TIMES
EVEN THEIR LIVES TO SERVE AND
PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES. THEIR
CRITICAL WORK TO IMPROVING THE
HEALTH AND SAFETY AND QUALITY OF
LIFE FOR MILLIONS OF
CALIFORNIANS IS A KNOWN WORK
RISK SO NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED
TO WORRY ABOUT THEIR RISK OF
PUBLIC SERVICE FOLLOWING TO THEM
PERSONAL RESIDENCE WHERE THEIR
CHILDREN ARE LOVED ONES ARE
OFTEN PRESENT DURING A TIME WHEN
BREATH IN THE SOLDIER ON THE
RISE THAT STILL PROVIDES
MEANINGFUL RESOURCE TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC SERVANTS AND THEIR
FAMILIES. WITH AN OPTION STILL
SAFE AT HOME FOR THESE REASONS
AND MORE SUPPORT. SB 11 31.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR BORG'S
ALRIGHT, UM GALLERY YAMA
CHANDRAN. RAMACHANDRAN. I THINK
I SAID RAMACHANDRAN, RIGHT.
CLOSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
MEANT TO THANK YOU COULD OKAY. I
THOUGHT YOU SAID YAMA CHANDRA,
BUT PLEASE KAORI GARY
RAMACHANDRAN. OKAY THANK YOU. UH
THANK YOU. CHAIR AMBER, BY SARAH
BORJAS AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY ON
BEHALF OF THE BRENNAN CENTER FOR
JUSTICE. ELECTION OFFICIALS AND
ELECTION WORKERS HAVE
EXPERIENCED AN ALARMING RISE IN
THREATS AND HARASSMENT NEARLY
FOR DOING THEIR JOBS AND TELLING
THE TRUTH ABOUT ELECTION OUTCOME
IN A SURVEY WE CONDUCTED EARLIER
THIS YEAR, THREE OUT OF FIVE
LOCAL ELECTION OFFICIALS WORRY
THAT THE THREAT THEY AND THEIR
STAFF ARE EXPERIENCING WILL MAKE
RECRUITMENT DIFFICULT.
ANECDOTALLY MANY ARE TELLING US
THAT THEY ARE ALREADY SEEING A
NEGATIVE IMPACT ON CO WORKER
RECRUITMENT. AHEAD OF THE
NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION. THE
11 31 WOULD ENSURE THAT ELECTION
WORKERS EXPERIENCING BREASTS CAN
APPLY FURTHER INFORMATION TO BE
PRIVATE IN THE VOTER FILES AT
THE COUNTY ELECTION OFFICE
MAINTAINED. IT ALSO ENSURES THAT
POLL WORKERS NO LONGER NEED TO
HAVE THEIR FULL NAMES POSTED
PUBLICLY IN ADVANCE OF THE
ELECTION WHILE KEEPING THE
INSTRUCTION TO POST PARTY
AFFILIATION. THESE MEASURES
WOULD HELP COLLECTION WITH HER
STILL SAFER ON THE JOB. AGAINST
THE WORKERS ARE TRAPPED AGAINST
DEMOCRACY ITSELF, AND THIS
INCLUDES IMPORTANT STEPS TO
PROTECT OUR ELECTION WORKERS.
SERGEANT MARK CÁC. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MISS RAMACHANDRAN.
ALL RIGHT NOW AS TO THOSE IN
SUPPORT HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM
IF YOU'RE IN SUPPORT, PLEASE
APPROACH MICROPHONE, SAYING NO
ONE APPROACHED THE MICROPHONE.
LET'S TURN TO THE PHONE LINES
MODERATED IF WE COULD TURN THE
PHONE LINES FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN
SUPPORT OF SB 1131. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR, HE STATED IF YOU ARE
IN SUPPORT OF SB 1131 PRESS ONE
FALSE BAY ZERO. AND WE WILL
BEGIN WITH LINE 1 25, YOU ARE
OPEN. THANK YOU, MR CARON
MEMBERS JEAN HEARST, CALLING IN
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF SB 11 31 ON
BEHALF OF THE URBAN COUNTIES OF
CALIFORNIA, THE COUNTY HEALTH
EXECUTIVES ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA AND THE ASSOCIATION
OF CALIFORNIA SCHOOL
ADMINISTRATORS ALL IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 1 79,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME
IS JULIE SUE RODRIGUEZ. ILLEGAL
WOMAN VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA AND
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. 1 82, YOU ARE OPEN.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE CARLOS MACHADO
WITH THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOL
BOARDS ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT
OF SB 11 31. THANK YOU, MR
MACHADO. IT WILL GO TO LINE 1
88. GOOD AFTERNOON, RYAN SOUSA
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IN
SUPPORT OF SB 11, 31. THANK YOU.
1 90, YOU'RE UP. JONNY PENA WITH
THE LEGAL CALIFORNIA CITIES AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
22. PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON. THIS IS KIM ALEXANDER
WITH THE CALIFORNIA VOTER
FOUNDATION. WE ARE PROUD
SPONSORS WITH THE BRENNAN CENTER
OF THIS BILL, AND WE SUPPORT IT
. WE URGE YOUR I VOTE. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ONE FINAL
REMINDER ONE FALL BY ZERO IF
YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OF SB 11 31 TO
37, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
ELISSA STILL HIGH. KLEIN IN ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF FOSTER
CITY AND THE CITY CLERK'S
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA BOTH
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 2 42,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. TO 42. TO
PARTY. THANK YOU NEXT. THAT'S IT
. NO OTHER PARTICIPANTS ARE
QUEUED UP. ALL RIGHT, LET'S TURN
TO OPPOSITION. I SEE NONE. NO
OFFICIAL OPPOSITION ANYONE IS
OPPOSED TO SB 11 31 HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM. PLEASE APPROACH
THE MICROPHONE, SAYING NO ONE
APPROACHED MY FILM. LET'S TURN
THE PHONE LINES FOR THOSE WHO
ARE OPPOSED TO SB 11 31
MODERATOR, PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE
OPPOSED TO SB 11 31. BUT. TO
EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO 11 31
PRESS 109 TO 44 YOU ARE OPEN.
HELLO YES. UM I'M ONE OF THE
PEOPLE AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON
THIS BILL. SINCE YOU HAVE NO
OPPOSITION. GO AHEAD, SIR. YOUR
NAME. YEAH MY NAME IS MIKE. I'M
ONE OF THE PEOPLE. I'M NOT A
CORPORATE SECTION LIKE ALL THESE
OTHER PEOPLE CALLED IN AND YOU
HAVEN'T ANY AFFILIATION. ALRIGHT
GO AHEAD. I'LL GIVE YOU TWO
MINUTES. GO TO PHILLY. I HAVE
AFFILIATION. I'M ONE OF THE
PEOPLE. OKAY WHEN YOU HAVE, UH
UNELECTED OFFICIALS MAKING
CLAIMS AND CAUSING PEOPLE TO
STAY HOME FROM THEIR JOBS. AND
THE ONLY PLACE THAT YOU CAN FIND
THEM TO ADDRESS THE GRIEVANCES
WITH YOUR GOVERNMENT. IS THAT
THEIR RESIDENTS? BECAUSE YOU'VE
MOVED EVERYTHING OUT OF THE
CAPITAL. AND MOVED IT DOWN INTO
THEIR HOUSE. THAT'S NOT OUR
ISSUE. THAT'S YOUR ISSUE. MAKE
IT SO PEOPLE WHO ARE US THE
PEOPLE NOT AFFILIATED WITH
FOSTER CITY. OR THE CAPITAL OR
ANYONE OTHER CORPORATE ENTITY.
STAY. WHETHER IT'S SUPPOSED TO
BE SO WE CAN COME REDRESS OR
GRIEVANCES AND STOP ALLOWING
PEOPLE OR OPERATING THESE
POSITIONS. TO RUN AMOK AND
CHANGE THE RULES AND DECLARE
THAT EVERYONE MUST STAY HOME
BECAUSE THEY'VE DECIDED THERE
WERE TWO DEATHS. AND THEIR
COUNTY. AND NOW WE HAVE NOWHERE
TO GO REDRESS OR GRIEVANCES AND
YOU'RE GONNA LIKE, CODIFY THIS
NONSENSE. OUTRAGE. WE HAVE A
REPUBLIC. NOT A DEMOCRACY. WE
HAVE RIGHTS. GIVEN TO US BY OUR
CREATOR, NOT BY SOME MAN OR
WOMAN WHOSE UNELECTED YOU GUYS
NEED TO LIKE HERE. THE PEOPLE IF
YOU COULD HEAR THE PEOPLE WE
WOULDN'T NEED TO COME TO YOUR
HOUSE. SINCE YOU GUYS AREN'T
THERE. WE'RE COMING TO YOUR
HOUSE. AND GUESS WHAT? WE GOT
SOME POST OFFICE WORKERS ON OUR
SIDE. WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHERE
YOU'RE AT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH, SIR. ALRIGHT,
MODERATOR, MODERATOR, LET'S TURN
TO THE NEXT QUOTE. LET'S TURN
THE NEXT CALLER. ALL RIGHT, AND
THAT NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. THAT'S
CRAP. ONE POINT NEXT CALLER
AHEAD, MR CHAIRMAN 14 MR. CHAIR
SHE MENTIONED IN POINT OF ORDER.
HI THAT'S ME. AND I'M REALLY
OPPOSED TO THIS BILL, BECAUSE
THANK YOU, AND YOUR NAME IS
ANDREA ANDREA. HEADSTRONG
ALRIGHT, MODERATOR. WE'RE GONNA
WE'RE GONNA ORDER PAUSED IT. YES
SENATOR WIENER THAT LAST ONE
BEFORE THE SOUNDED LIKE A THREAT
OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE AGAINST
MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE WOULD
APPRECIATE IT. IF THE OPERATOR
WOULD PLEASE MODERATOR, IF YOU
WOULD PAUSE THE LINE, PLEASE. I
DID. THANK YOU. THAT THE THAT
PREVIOUS COMMENTS SOUNDED LIKE A
THREAT OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
AGAINST MEMBERS OF THE
LEGISLATURE. UM AND I'M JUST
WONDERING IF A T AND T HAS A
CAPACITY TO KNOW WHERE PHONE
NUMBER WHAT PHONE NUMBER CALLED
IN OR IF THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE
BECAUSE THAT WAS A CRIMINAL
THREAT AGAINST MEMBERS OF THE
LEGISLATURE. YES, I AGREE, AND
I'M GOING TO ASK THE SERGEANTS
TO TAKE THAT UPON THEMSELVES TO
INVESTIGATE. SO THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT, UM, MODERATE. IF
THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO WAS ON
THE PHONE LINE WOULD LIKE TO
GIVE US THEIR NAME. THEIR
POSITION OR AFFILIATION AND
POSITION. UM PLEASE. PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION.
AND NOBODY ELSE'S QUEUING UP,
MR. CHAIR THANK YOU. LET'S BRING
IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS,
SENATOR WIENER. DO YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM. NO I
MOVED THE BILL. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU, UM, SAYING NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. BILL HAS
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR WIENER,
SENATOR NEWMAN, YOU CARE TO
CLOSE I ACTUALLY WOULD, UM THIS
BILL. IS ABOUT PROTECTING.
ELECTION WORKERS. CODE
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. YOU KNOW
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GENERALLY NOT
WELL KNOWN, BUT WHO DO THE HARD
KIND OF THANKLESS WORK OF
GOVERNMENT. THIS BILL IS NOT
ABOUT PROTECTING US. THIS BILL
IS NOT ABOUT COVID, UM, WE ARE
HERE IN THE CAPITAL DOING THIS
WORK TODAY, SO THAT'S NOT WHAT
THIS IS ABOUT. WHAT THIS IS
ABOUT IS WE NEED PUBLIC SERVANTS
TO HAVE THE ASSURANCE OF SAFETY
AND PEACE OF MIND TO FULFILL
THEIR DUTIES IN THE CONDUCT OF
THE FUNCTIONS OF GOVERNMENT. SO
AND TO BE REALLY CLEAR THE
REASON THIS BILL IS HERE BEFORE
YOU TODAY IS OVER THE COURSE OF
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS WE HAVE
ADDED AN ADDITIONAL TWO HEALTH
CARE WORKERS AND ELECTION
WORKERS. WE'VE HAD OTHER WORKERS
AT THE AT THE REQUEST OF THE
ASSEMBLY. TO INCLUDE SOME OF THE
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL THAT
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DAILY WAS
CARRYING, WHICH WOULD HAVE WOULD
, WHICH WOULD HAVE INCORPORATED
CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS INTO
THE SAFE AT HOME PROGRAM. WHAT
THIS BILL IS ABOUT IS ABOUT
ESSENTIALLY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE
HEARING TODAY, AND WE'RE LIVING
IN A TIME THAT'S OFTEN FRACTURES
. THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE EXCEPT
TO CONTINUE. CONDUCTING OUR
GOVERNMENT, OUR DEMOCRACY THE
WAY IT HAS, BUT WE CANNOT AFFORD
FOR PEOPLE TO LOSE FAITH IN THAT
OR FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT
WORK TO BE INTIMIDATED OUT OF
THAT SERVICE. SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU TO THE SPONSORS,
PARTICULARLY MISS RAMACHANDRAN,
MISS BURGESS AND MISS ALEXANDER
, BUT TO ALL OF THE OTHERS WHO
HAVE COME FORWARD IN SUPPORT OF
THIS, UNFORTUNATELY NECESSARY
BUT IMPORTANT ACT AND WITH THAT
I ASK FOR YOUR IVA. THANK YOU,
SENATOR NEWMAN. I'M ONE OF THE
CALLERS IN OPPOSITION
ILLUSTRATED. THINK THE NEED FOR
THE BILL. ALL RIGHT? MADAM
SECRETARY, IF YOU WOULD CALL THE
ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWO SB 11 31 BY SENATOR NEWMAN.
UM SENATOR WIENER MADE THE
MOTION. THE MOTION IS THAT THE
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE CONCURRED
IN HAMBURG. I BURGESS CABALLERO,
SO GONZALES. HERTZBERG. JONES
BLARED STERN WIECKOWSKI WIENER.
WIENER I YOU HAVE 220 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING. THANK YOU
MEMBERS.
OKAY UM, WELL, NOW GO TO OUR
FINAL ITEM OF THE DAY ITEM
NUMBER THREE SP 2 33 BY SENATOR
UMBERG AND SENATOR, YOU MAY
PRESENT YOUR BILL. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. TODAY I PRESENT SB 2 33,
WHICH DELETES OBSOLETE SECTIONS
OF LAW RELATING TO REMOTE ACCESS
AND CIVIL COURT PROCEEDINGS. THE
TELEPHONIC SPECIFIC STATUTES OR
OBSOLETE UNNECESSARY, GIVEN THE
BROADER REMOTE CIVIL
PROCEEDINGS, LANGUAGE NOW IN
STATUTE. STATUTES CREATE
CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT IS REMOTE
AND WHAT IS TELEPHONE. WE NOW
HAVE TWO RULES IN TWO SETS OF
STATUTES, ONE FOR REMOTE.
GENERALLY ANOTHER FOR TELEPHONE
, UM SB 2 33 6 TO REPEAL THOSE
TELEPHONIC APPEARANCE STATUTES,
THUS PROVIDING COURTS WITH
CLARITY OVER THE USE OF
TELEPHONIC APPEARANCES AS PART
OF THE MARCH MUCH LARGER, REMOTE
TECHNOLOGY. I URGE YOUR I VOTE
WITH ME HERE TODAY, UM, TO
ASSIST AND HELP IS MR BELOTE.
THIS IS, UH, PERHAPS THE PEAK OF
MR BLOATS CAREER HERE BEING SB 2 33. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS MIGHT
BELOTE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF
COURT CALL LLC AND EARLY
PROVIDER AND CONTINUING PROVIDER
OFREMOTE APPEARANCE. TECHNOLOGY
STARTED OUT TELEPHONE STARTED
OUT AT A TIME WHERE IT WAS ONLY
TELEPHONE. THERE WAS A NEED FOR
A UNIFORM STATE LAW. THE COURTS
WERE ALSO SUFFERING BUDGET
CUTBACKS. THERE WAS EXTRA
PAYMENTS MADE BY LAWYERS WHO
SUPPORT THE COURTS THROUGH
TELEPHONIC APPEARANCES. IT WAS A
LONG TIME AGO WHERE YOU HAVE A
NEW ERA WHERE COURTS ARE USING
LOTS OF PLATFORMS AND PEOPLE,
SMART PEOPLE INVENTED SKYPE AND
BLUE JEANS AND TEAMS AND THE
REST. SO THIS IS A ATTEMPT TO
MODERNIZE THE STATUTE. ELIMINATE
THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN
TELEPHONIC AND OTHER REMOTE AND
WE SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO FURTHER
WITNESSES. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE
IN THE HEARING ROOM THAT WANTS
TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT, SAYING
NO ONE WILL GO TO THE PHONE
LINES WILL MODERATOR PLEASE
QUEUE UP ANY SUPPORT TESTIMONY?
THANK YOU ARE FEW AND SUPPORT.
PLEASE PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED BY
ZERO AT THIS TIME WHEN FOLLOWED
BY ZERO. AND WE HAVE ONE QUEUING
UP ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. ANYBODY
ELSE IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT, WHAT
WAS THE BILL AGAIN? MR. CHAIR
KÞT 233. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SP
233 PLEASE PRESS 10. AND THEY
SHOULD BE WITH US IN ONE MOMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE
THERE WITH THE OPERATOR. AND
LINE 2 46, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. WE'LL GIVE ONE MORE
FINAL REMINDER IF YOU'RE IN
SUPPORT OF SB 233, PLEASE PRESS
10. NOBODY ELSE IS QUEUING UP.
DID YOU HEAR THAT? NOBODY ELSE
IS QUEUING UP. MY APOLOGIES,
CHAIRS ANY, UH, OPPOSITION HERE
IN THE HEARING ROOM. SEEING NOW
WE'LL GO TO THE PHONE LINES.
HERE IN OPPOSITION TO SB 233,
PLEASE PRESS 101 FOLLOWED BY
ZERO AND WE'RE GONNA LINE TO 42.
I AM TALKING TO OPPOSE THE LAST
BILL. THE NEWMAN BILL, I DIDN'T
GET THROUGH. OKAY SO THAT
CLARIFIED TO THE NEXT SPEAKER,
PLEASE. THERE'S NOBODY ELSE
QUEUED UP, MR. CHAIR OKAY, WE'LL
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE BEING ME, I GUESS.
UM. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. I
SUPPORT THE BILL. AM I ALLOWED
TO MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE I'M
SHARING. OKAY, SO IT'S A
PROCEDURAL QUESTION. CAN I MAKE
THE MOTION? NO. OKAY SO WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO JUST HANG OUT
FOR A WHILE, BUT WE WILL. YOU
CAN CLOSE. ALL RIGHT. UM SO YOU
MAKE CLOTHES. BUT I SUPPORT YOUR
BILL. WELL THANK YOU. UM I
SUPPOSE I COULD DO A 10 MINUTE
CLOTHES WAITING FOR ANOTHER
MEMBER TO COME, BUT I'LL JUST
SIMPLY ASK FOR AND I VOTE. OKAY?
THANK YOU, MR BLOW FOR YOUR
SUPPORT. APPRECIATE IT, RIGHT?
CAN I CAN I ALL RIGHT, SO JUST,
UM IS A PROCEDURAL ANNOUNCEMENT
. IF I CAN BE HEARD IS THAT WE
HAVE COMPLETED THE HEARINGS ON
THE THREE BILLS. UM I WOULD ASK
MEMBERS RETURN WILL KEEP THE
ROLE OPEN FOR A LITTLE WHILE,
BUT WE ARE REQUIRED TO GO BACK
INTO SESSION HERE SHORTLY SO.
MR CHAIR. YES. WE'RE JUST
CLARIFYING, IS IT? WE'RE HAVING
ANOTHER SESSION IN A LITTLE BIT
WHILE AH, THE NOT OF THIS
COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW. THAT WAS
OUR LAST BIT. I'M SORRY. ON THE
FLOOR. I THINK THAT WAS THE FULL
SENATE WILL BE RECONVENING IN A
LITTLE IN A LITTLE WHILE, BUT
WE'RE NOT HEARING ANY FURTHER
BILLS IN THIS COMMITTEE. OKAY?
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU
DON'T WANT TO DISCONNECT. OH,
YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT. HEAD
BOSS, YOU'RE LIKE, BUT OH,
THAT'D BE GREAT. WEBSITE. NOT
JUST. OH OKAY. YEAH. IF YOU TELL
THEM MODERATE OR NOT. OH, YEAH.
PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T DISCONNECT,
MR MONTEREY. APPRECIATE IT.
THANKS FOR CLARIFYING AGAIN.
APPRECIATE IT.
YEAH ONE MORE ON SB 2 33. SOME
MOVED. DO YOU GOT TO SAY THE
MAGIC WORDS? AYE. SB 2 33. I
MOVED THAT WE MOVE TO 33. I URGE
AND I VOTE AMENDMENT ON THAT
RIGHT? OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION
ON SB 233. WHICH IS WHAT? I'M
SORRY. WHAT DOES THAT MOTION
AGAIN? ERICA. IT'S. OKAY SO THE
Mí
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE
CONCURRED, AND THAT'S EMOTION BY
SENATOR CABALLERO AND WE WILL
CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER THREE SB 233 BY SENATOR
UMBERG. THE MOTION IS THAT THE
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE CONCURRED
IN HAMBURG. HAMBURG I. BURGESS
THE EURO CABALLERO. I DURAZO H
NZALEZ GONZALEZ. I HERTZBERG
JONES. LAIRD I STERN STERN. I
WIECKOWSKI WIENER WIENER, I YOU
HAVE 7 TO 0 WITH MEMBERS
MISSING. WELL WE'LL LEAVE THE
ROLE OPEN UNTIL 5 30. WE'LL PUT
THAT ON CALL. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S LET'S GO
AHEAD. AND, UM CALL THE ROLL ON
THE OTHER BILLS WILL DO THAT
ONCE AND THEN WE'LL KEEP THE
BRAWL OPEN TILL 5 30 FOR THOSE
WHO WISH TO RETURN. FILE ITEM
NUMBER ONE SB 616 BY SENATOR
RUBIO. WITH THE CHAIR VOTING. I
COPY EURO COULD YOU READ THE
MOTION, THOUGH, SO THAT WE SURE
THE MOTION IS THAT THEASSEMBLY
AMENDMENTS BE TAKEN UP FOR
CONSIDERATION. CABALLERO
CABALLERO, I RUSTLE RUSTLE
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ. I HERTZBERG
LAIRD. LAYERED I STERN STERN. I
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI I? YOU
HAVE 10 TO 0 ON THAT ONE. WITH
ONE MEMBER MISSING. ALL RIGHT,
WE'LL KEEP THE ROLL OPEN. AND
THEN FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO SB 11
31 BY SENATOR NEWMAN. UM. WITH
SENATOR WIENER MAKING THE MOTION
. THE MOTION IS THAT THE
ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE CONCURRED
IN CHAIR VOTING. I GORGEOUS THE
EURO EURO. I DO RUSSELL. SO I
GONZALES. GONZALEZ I HERZBERG
JONES, LAIRD. LAIRD. I STERN
STERN. I WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI.
AYE. YOU HAVE 8 TO 0 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING. PUT THAT BACK
ON CALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MEMBERS. UM WELL, 5 30. WE'RE
GOING TO CLOSE THE ROLE ON THE
BILLS. SO.
OPEN THE ROLL AGAIN ON SB 233.
FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE SB 233
GORGEOUS HERZBERG JONES
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI I SP 2 33
HAMBURG. HURTS. NO. I YEAH.
HERZBERG I YOU HAVE, UM 9 TO 0
WITH SENATOR HERTZBERG IS HERE
WILL CALL THE ROLL ON ALL THREE
BILLS AND IF YOU'D READ THE
MOTION ON SB 6 16 WHEN SENATE
HERTZBERG IS PAYING ATTENTION TO
33 IS STILL ON CALL. WE'RE GONNA
CALL THE ROLE FOR YOU. OKAY
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THE
MOTION ON SB 6 16 TO 33 IS STILL
ON CALL. 233 STILL YEAH. OKAY?
FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE SB 616. THE
MOTION IS THAT THE ASSEMBLY
AMENDMENTS BE TAKEN UP FOR
CONSIDERATION. CHAIR VOTING I
HERZBERG HERZBERG, I YOU HAVE 11
TO 0. THAT BILL IS OUT. OF OUR
JURISDICTION. FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWO SB 11 31 CHAIR. VOTING I
MOTION IS THAT THE ASSEMBLY
AMENDMENTS BE CONCURRED IN
GORGEOUS HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG, I
JONES. YOU HAVE A 9 TO 0 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING. KEEP THE ROLL
UP UNTIL 5 30.
UM ALRIGHT, SEEING NO ONE ELSE
APPEARING, UH, ASSEMBLY. EXCUSE
ME. THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON THE
JUDICIARY IS OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
YEAH YEAH, RIGHT. THANK YOU,
ERICA. OKAY LET'S DO THAT. OKAY
FILE ITEM. TWO SB 11 31. THAT'S
9 TO 0 BILLS OUT, OKAY? FILE
ITEM. THREE. SB 233 THAT IS 9 TO
0 BILLS OUT. OKAY, OKAY. THANK
YOU, ERICA. WE ARE ADJOURNED.