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THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY,
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UTILITIES AND COMMUNICATIONS
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WILL NOW COME TO ORDER. GOOD
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AFTERNOON EVERYBODY AS WE
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CONTINUE TO TAKE SOME
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PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE THE
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ONGOING COVID 19 RISKS, THE
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SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
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PUBLIC AND HAS PROVIDED ACCESS
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TO BOTH IN PERSON AND
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TELECONFERENCE PARTICIPATION FOR
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PUBLIC COMMENT. FOR INDIVIDUALS
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WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
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COMMENT VIA TELECONFERENCE
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SERVICE. THE PARTICIPANTS WILL
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FREE NUMBER AND ACCESS CODE IS
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POSTED ON THE COMMITTEE WEBSITE.
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IT WILL BE DISPLAYED ON THE
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SCREEN. THERE IT IS. THANK YOU,
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AND I WILL ANNOUNCE IT NOW,
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TODAY'S PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS
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187722. THERE IT IS ON THE
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SCREEN VERY CLEARLY AND THE
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ACCESS CODE, WHICH IS ALL
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SUPPOSED TO RUN THE SCREEN VERY
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CLEARLY IS 8233101. I WILL
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MAINTAIN THE QUORUM DURING THE
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HEARING, AS IS CUSTOMARY, AND
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ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS DISRUPTED
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MAY REMOVE FROM THE REMOTE
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MEETING SERVICE OR HAVE THEIR
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CONNECTIONS MUTED. WE'RE HOLDING
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OUR COMMITTEE HERE AND HERE IN
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THE O STREET BUILDING. I ASK ALL
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MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO BE
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PRESENT ROOM 2100 SO WE CAN
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ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM AND BEGIN
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OUR HEARING. AH, WE HAVE ONE
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BILL ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS B 3 96
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BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BRADFORD.
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BEFORE WE HEAR THE PRESENTATION
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. SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM,
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I'D LIKE TO, UH, ANNOUNCED THAT
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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING A
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SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE.
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TO REVIEW THE TESTIMONY AND THE
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PRESENTATION. BEFORE WE CAN ACT
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. WE ARE GOING TO NEED A QUORUM.
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SO WE WILL NOW COME TO THE
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SENATOR, SENATOR BRADFORD. UH
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HUH. YOU WERE SIMILAR IN A FEW
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YEARS AGO. WELL IT COULD HAVE
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BEEN, YOU KNOW, A MILLION
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MINUTES, RIGHT? I DID CALL YOU,
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SENATOR THOSE SECOND TIME. DO
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YOU WANT TO PRESENT OR NOT?
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WELL, YEAH. ARE YOU READY? ARE
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WE GOING TO DEBATE THE BILL THIS
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WAY? THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. DO YOU
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WANT TO DO IT HERE FROM? UM,
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YOU'RE FINE THERE. OKAY UM,
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AGAIN, 396 IS AN IMPORTANT
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MEASURE AND UNNECESSARY MEASURE
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THAT SUPPORTS THE STATE'S
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UTILITY OFFERS TO ADDRESS
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VEGETATION HERE HAZARDS AROUND
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UTILITY ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. IT
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CONTINUES TO WORK THAT MANY
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MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE HAVE
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PUT PUT IN PLACE TO REDUCE
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WILDFIRE RISK ACROSS THE STATE,
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INCLUDING AND STRENGTHENING
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COMPLIANCE WITH WELL FOR FIRE
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MITIGATION PLANS. CURRENT LAW
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MANDATES THAT ELECTRICAL
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UTILITIES CLEAR HAZARDOUS
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VEGETATION AROUND ELECTRICAL
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FACILITIES, REGARDLESS OF THE
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LAND OF LAND RIGHTS OR OWNERSHIP
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. CALIFORNIA LAW ALSO IMPOSES
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UNCHECKED LIABILITY UPON
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UTILITIES IF THEIR EQUIPMENT IS
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INVOLVED AND WILDFIRES, BUT WHEN
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UTILITIES WANT TO REMOVE HOUSING
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OF STREETS TO PREVENT WILDFIRES
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ON PROPERTY, THEY DO NOT THAT
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THEY DO NOT OWN OR WHERE THEY DO
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NOT HAVE EXISTING LAND RIGHTS
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SUCH AS EASEMENTS AND UTILITIES.
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UH, FACED LAWSUITS. AND
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LIABILITY FROM ATLANTA OR THUS,
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UTILITIES MUST DECIDE TO CUT
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DOWN DANGEROUS TREES AND FACE
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LAWSUITS FROM LAND OWNERS OR
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LEAVE DANGEROUS TREES IN PLACE
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RISK WILDFIRES. THIS BILL
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ESTABLISHES A PROCESS FOR
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ELECTRICAL UTILITIES TO CONDUCT
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VEGETATION MANAGEMENT OUTSIDE.
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DO YOU TELL THE EASEMENT WERE
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THE ELECTRIC CORPORATIONS IS NOT
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HAVE EXISTING RIGHTS OR EXPRESS
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FRONT COMMISSION OF THE LAND,
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LORD OR LANDOWNER. THE PROCESS
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WILL INCLUDE IMPROVING THE
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NOTIFICATION PROCESS TO THE
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LANDOWNER AND A PROCESS THAT
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WILL ESTABLISHED BY THE PUC
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WOULD PUBLIC INPUT. AND IT'S
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CREATING AN AVENUE FOR A
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LANDLORD. LANDOWNER SHOULD TAKE
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TO HAVE THE WOOD REMOVED FROM
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THEIR PROPERTY IF IT IF IT IS
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COST EFFECTIVE, AND THE BEST
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OPTIONS FOR AWHILE, FIRE RISK
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AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND NOTICE
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IS GIVEN IN A TIMELY MANNER,
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CLARIFYING THE BEST PRACTICES
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FOR ENVIRONMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL
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MANAGEMENT AND WORKERS SECTOR
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SAFETY. THIS BILL CLARIFIES THE
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GROUND RULES AND OFFERS A NARROW
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FIX TO ENSURE OUR ELECTRICAL
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INFRASTRUCTURE IS SAFE, UH AND
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FURTHER REDUCES RISK OF
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WILDFIRES. UM ALSO THIS MEASURE
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SUNSETS IN 2028, ALLOWING FOR
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FURTHER REVIEW OF THE PROCEDURES
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HERE TO TESTIFY. US BRANDON BECK
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, REPRESENTING, UM, PG AND E AND
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SCOTT, WHICH ON BEHALF OF THE
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CALIFORNIA UTILITIES EMPLOYEES,
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I RESPECT THE FBI VOTE, SO WE
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WERE SEVE REQUEST FROM BRENDAN
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REEBOK. WORTH PACIFIC GAS AND
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ELECTRIC. AND SO WE HAVE THREE
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MINUTES PER SPEAKER. SO ARE WE
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GONNA HAVE TO OKAY, WELL, WE'LL
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SPLIT THE TIME TO 1.5 EACH OR IF
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YOU GUYS CAN MANAGE THE THREE
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MINUTES ON YOUR OWN, I'LL GIVE
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YOU THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR
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ORGANIZED PRESENTATION. AH MR.
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WHICH MR. CHAIRMAN REMEMBER
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SCOTT QUESTION WOULD BE ABOUT
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THE CALIFORNIA COALITION OF
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UTILITY EMPLOYEES. AH! THE P G
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IS GOING TO SPEAK TO THE ISSUE
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ABOUT LIABILITY. WE ALL
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RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO CUT THESE
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DANGEROUS LIMBS. LET ME PUT THE
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HUMAN FACE ON WHY WE SO
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DESPERATELY NEED THIS BILL.
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RIGHT NOW. I'VE GOT ABOUT 5000
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VEGETATION MANAGEMENT WORKERS
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OUT IN THE FIELD FOR PG NI 95%
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OF THAT WORKFORCE ARE NON
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ENGLISH SPEAKERS. ENGLISH AS A
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SECOND LANGUAGE AND A VERY LARGE
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PERCENTAGE ARE UNDOCUMENTED
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WORKERS. WHEN THEY GO TO A
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PROPERTY THAT NEEDS TO BE
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TRIMMED. THEY FACE HOSTILE
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HOMEOWNERS. THEY FACE RACIAL
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EPITAPH. IT'S BRANDISHING OF
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WEAPONS. THEY HAVE ROCKS AND
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BOTTLES THROWN AT THEM. I CAN
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HAVE TIRES SLASHED. WITHOUT THIS
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BILL, WE CANNOT GO TO THE LOCAL
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SHERIFF. ORDER LOCAL CHP OFFICE
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AND GET THEM TO COME AND
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ACCOMPANY OUR WORKERS TO A
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HOSTILE WORKPLACE. UM IT'S ONE
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OF THE MOST DANGEROUS
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PROFESSIONS IN THE LAST YEAR
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THAT WAS REPORTED TO CAL OSHA.
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WE HAD 11 DEATHS AND 54. SERIOUS
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INJURIES THAT LED TO
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HOSPITALIZATION, THANKS TO
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SENATOR DODD AND HIS LEGISLATION
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FROM JUST A FEW YEARS AGO. WE'VE
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ENHANCED THE TRAINING AND WE'VE
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INCREASED THEIR WAGES BY ABOUT
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40. HAVING THE PUC ESTABLISHED A
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BETTER PROCESS FOR TALKING TO
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HOMEOWNERS, NOTICING THEM AND
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ARRANGING TO GET THE WORK DONE
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FIRST WILL ACTUALLY PROTECT HIS
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WORKFORCE. SO I URGE AND I VOTE.
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THANK YOU. AND NOW, BRENDAN
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BEBEK. YEP GOOD AFTERNOON.
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BRANDENBURG PACIFIC GAS ELECTRIC
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. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY
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AND HAVING A SPECIAL HEARING.
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THIS BILL HAS HAD A LONG,
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COMPLICATED HISTORY OVER THE
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LAST TWO YEARS WORKING WITH A
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TON OF STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING
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THE FORESTRY ASSOCIATION
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COUNTIES, PRIVATE PARTNERS,
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ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITIES, HAS
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HAD TWO SEPARATE HEARINGS INTO
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SOMEBODY. NATURAL RESOURCES. UM
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THE REASON IT'S IN THIS BILL
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TODAY IS BECAUSE OF COVER
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LIMITATIONS, AND THAT WAS A FUN
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PROCESS. BUT WE'RE HERE NOW,
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WITH THE FINAL PRODUCT THAT
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COMPARED TO CURRENT LAW DOES
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DEFINITELY STRENGTHEN THE
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LANDOWNER PROTECTIONS AND
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STRENGTHENS THE ABILITY FOR
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LANDOWNER BE NOTIFIED ABOUT THE
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TYPE OF WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE
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DONE, HOW IT'S GONNA BE DONE IN
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COMPLIANCE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL
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LAWS. THERE'S A LOT OF
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MISINFORMATION SURROUNDING THIS
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BILL RELATED PRIMARILY TO
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ACTIVITIES THAT ARE NOT WITHIN
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THE NARROW SCOPE OF THIS BILL.
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THIS BILL SPECIFICALLY ONLY
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APPLIES IN HIGH FIRE THREAT
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ZONES, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY
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AREAS. AND WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE
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EASEMENTS. THAT IS VERY, VERY
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SMALL PORTION OF THE WORK THAT
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WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY. UM SO
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THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO MAKE
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SURE THAT THE ARGUMENTS ARE
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FOCUSED ON THAT WORK IN
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PARTICULAR. IF THERE ARE ISSUES
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WITH HOW WE ARE NOTIFYING A
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LANDOWNER. THE PUC THROUGH THE
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PUBLIC PROCESS WILL DEVELOP THAT
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NOTIFICATION PROCESS. THEY WILL
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DEVELOP THAT. WHAT OPPORTUNITIES
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THE LANDOWNER HAS TO BE HEARD?
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NONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES
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EXIST TODAY BECAUSE CURRENT LAW
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THAT THIS LEGISLATURE PASSED
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FOUR YEARS AGO PROVIDE THE
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UTILITY THE ABILITY TO TRAVERSE
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ON LAND THE ABILITY TO CUT DOWN
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TREES. BUT THEY ALSO ARE WE ARE
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HELD LIABLE FOR TRESPASS AND
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PROPERTY DAMAGES IF THOSE TREES
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ARE REMOVED, COMBINED WITH A
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DIVERSE COMBINATION. WE'RE JUST
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IN IRAQ AND A HARD PLACE
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SITUATION WHERE WE EITHER HAVE
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TO BE SUED WHEN THE TREE
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ULTIMATELY FOLLOWS DOWN AND
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STARTS A FIRE OR RECEDED FROM
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THE LANDOWNER FOR MOVING THE
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TREE, OKAY, WE NEED TO BE VERY
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MUCH. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW
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MOVE TO ANYONE WANTING TO
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TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THIS
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MEASURE WILL COME TO THE ROOM
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HERE. ANYONE HERE AND SUPPORT.
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GOOD AFTERNOON, MR KERRY MEMBERS
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ROD BREWER FOR SOUTHERN
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CALIFORNIA EDISON HERE IN
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SUPPORT. MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS,
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AARON EVANS ON BEHALF OF THE
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TREE CARE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION,
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ALSO IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MR
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CHAIR MEMBERS, MEGAN SUPERS ON
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BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
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PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND
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SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON CHERRY
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MEMBERS, NICOLINA HERNANDEZ WITH
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SENOR GAS AND ELECTRIC AND
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SUPPORT OKAY. WE'LL GO TO THE
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PHONE LINES WILL ASK THAT THE
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MODERATOR, PLEASE QUÊ SPEAKERS
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AND SUPPORTIVE SP 3 96
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MODERATOR. THANK YOU. AND IF
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YOU'D LIKE TO QUEUE UP AND
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SUPPORT, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
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FOLLOWED BY THE ZERO AT THIS
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TIME. ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE PRESS
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ONE FELLOW BY THE ZERO AT THIS
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TIME. AND WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO
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LIMIT THEIR TESTIMONY TO THEIR
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NAME, ANY AFFILIATION AND
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POSITION ON THE BILL. AND. LOOKS
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LIKE FIRST WE GO TO LINE NUMBER
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25, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 25 YEAR
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OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
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BUT ONCE AGAIN LINE 25, PLEASE
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GO AHEAD. MODERATOR GO TO THE
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NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. HMM. AND
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WANT TO GET IT THERE ANY THAT
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WILL LOOK YOU UP AND SUPPORT
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EXPRESS 10. AND THERE ARE NO
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FURTHER LINES IN. Q OKAY, WE'LL
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GO TO AN ORGANIZED PRESENTATION
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AND OPPOSITION OF THE BILL. THE
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FIRST SPEAKER IS JENNIFER TENOR.
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AH IF SHE'S YOUR PERSON ON THE
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PHONES, YOU GET A MINUTE AND A
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HALF. THERE'S ANOTHER. SPEAKER
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AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION. YES
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CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. PLEASE
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PROCEED. THANK YOU, JENNIFER
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TANNER FOR ALL 80 INDIVISIBLE
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GROUPS OF INDIVISIBLE CALIFORNIA
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STATE STRONG WE'RE HERE
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CONSTANTLY. THE WORDS WILDFIRE
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MITIGATION. IT STILL IS. NOT
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THAT IT'S A TAKING OF PRIVATE
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PROPERTY AND ALLOWING ALL THE
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HORROR STORIES OF PGS ENHANCED
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VEGETATION MANAGEMENT TO
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CONTINUE. AND LEAVE YOUR
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CONSTITUENTS AT MORE RISK OF
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WILDFIRES UNLESS THEY WANT TO
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PAY FOR THE CHIP AND THE SPLASH
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TO BE REMOVED AND PAY FOR THE
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DAMAGE PG AND E HAS DONE TO
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THEIR PROPERTY AND TO THEIR
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ERODED HILLS AND THEY'RE TRASHED
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ROADS. YOU HAVE ALL THE FACTS.
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WITHOUT A DOUBT THERE IS A
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FINANCIAL BURDEN AND THERE WAS
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NO OVERSIGHT CAL FIRE IT DOES
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NOT HAVE THE MANPOWER FOR
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OVERSIGHT. IN ADDITION, THE
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GENIE'S PUBLICLY THEY DO NOT
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ACKNOWLEDGE CAL FIRE'S
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JURISDICTION, AND IT WILL IMPACT
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NEARLY ONE MILLION ACRES OF
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TREES AND WITHOUT ANY NOTICE FOR
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THE NEXT 2.5 YEARS. AND HOW CAN
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YOU RATIONALLY PASS THE BILL TO
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GIVE PG ME ALMOST UNLIMITED
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AUTHORITY WITH NO OVERSIGHT.
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WHEN YOU KNOW THERE IS A BETTER
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WAY OF SHOWING MY SO CAL EDISON
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WHEN THEY LEAVE THE TREES AND
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INSTEAD INSULATE THEIR BUYER
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WIRES FOR SAFER CALIFORNIA.
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RURAL COUNTIES. BOARD OF
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SUPERVISORS, LOCAL COMMUNITY
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LEADERS, ENVIRONMENTAL
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SUPERSTARS LIKE SOUTHERN SIERRA
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CLUB'S CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL
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DIVERSITY AND INDIVISIBLE
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CALIFORNIA HAVE ALL WRITTEN TO
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YOU ABOUT THE TAKING OF PROPERTY
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OF TAKING A PRIVATE PROPERTY IN
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THIS BILL AND THE MASS
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DESTRUCTION THAT IS GOING ON NOW
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AND WILL GET WORSE. RESPECTFULLY
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ASK YOUR NO VOTE ON S BETWEEN 96
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. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS
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TANNER. NOW WE'LL GO TO THE
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SECOND SPEAKER MARK. FINSTER
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MAKER WITH. THE CALIFORNIA
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COUNCIL OF LAND TRUST. YOU HAVE
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A MINUTE AND A HALF, SIR. THANK
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YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR MARK
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FINSTER MAKER ON BEHALF OF THE
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CALIFORNIA COUNCIL OF LAND
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TRUSTS WERE HERE IN RESPECTFUL
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OPPOSITION. CALIFORNIA IS HOME
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TO MORE THAN 150 LAND TRUSTS.
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NONPROFITS WHOSE MISSION IS TO
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WORK WITH WILLING LANDOWNERS TO
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ACQUIRE LAND. AND PROTECT
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NATURAL RESOURCES AND
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CONSERVATION VALUES. WE
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RECOGNIZE THE WILDFIRES HAVE
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REACHED A CRISIS POINT IN
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CALIFORNIA AND UTILITY
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MANAGEMENT OF FORCE IS A STEP
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AND THE STRATEGY TO REDUCE OUR
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WILDFIRE RISK. THAT SAID,
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SHIELDING UTILITIES FROM
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LIABILITY FOR DAMAGES FOR
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CUTTING DOWN TREES THAT ARE
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HEALTHY AND DO NOT POSE A HAZARD
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IS NOT THE ANSWER. SEVERAL OF
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OUR MEMBERS HAVE WITNESSED THIS
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FIRSTHAND. THE DAMAGE THAT CAN
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BE CAUSED WHEN THE UTILITY
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BEGINS. FELLING NONHAZARDOUS
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TREES AS PART OF THEIR
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PRACTICES. 656 2ND GENERATION
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REDWOOD TREES WERE CUT DOWN ON
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LANDS PROTECTED BY A
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CONSERVATION. THESE MEN, THE
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MAJORITY OF THESE LANDS WERE
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HEALTHY AND STRUCTURALLY SOUND.
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UNDER SB 3 96. OUR MEMBERS WOULD
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HAVE NO RECOURSE. THIS BILL
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PROPOSES THAT THE FOREST
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PRACTICE RULES OR COASTAL ACT
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ACT AS A BACKSTOP, TRY AND
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ENSURE THIS TYPE OF PRACTICE
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DOESN'T HAPPEN. AND IF THOSE
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RULES DO APPLY, WHAT HAPPENS, A
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VIOLATION OCCURS. THE STATE
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COLLECTS THE MONEY AND IT GOES
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INTO THE GENERAL FUND. IF IT CAL
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FIRE IS THE ONE TO DO THAT.
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DOESN'T COME BACK TO OUR MEMBERS
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. THEY HAVE NO RECOURSE THEY
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CANNOT PURSUE LITIGATION. THEY
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CANNOT BE MADE WHOLE. UNDER SB 3
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96. THE UTILITIES COULD VIOLATE
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THE FOREST PRACTICE RULES AND
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THE LANDOWNER, WHETHER IT'S AN
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INDIVIDUAL OR ONE OF THE MEMBERS
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OF MY CLIENT IS LEFT HOLDING THE
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BAG. THIS BILL NEEDS MORE WORK.
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IT SHOULD NOT PROCEED TODAY AND
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WE RESPECTFULLY URGE A NO VOTE.
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OKAY THANK YOU. NOW WE GOT TWO
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SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION OF THE
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BILL HERE IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM.
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ANYONE PRESENT PLEASE COME UP TO
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THE MIC. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
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AND MEMBERS ABIGAIL MAIL ON
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BEHALF OF SAVE THE REDWOODS
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LEAGUE, SEMPER VIRUS FUND AND
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MID PENINSULA REGIONAL OPEN
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SPACE DISTRICT AND RESPECTFUL
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OPPOSITION TO SB 396. THANK YOU.
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ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE
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COMMITTEE? NOW WE'LL GO TO THE
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PHONE LINES. MODERATOR PLEASE
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QUÊ AH SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION
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TO SB 3 96. IF YOU'D LIKE TO
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SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
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PRESS ONE THAN ZERO AT THIS TIME
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. FIRST WE'LL GO TO LINE 32,
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PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
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, JOHN KENNEDY WITH THE RURAL
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COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES. WE
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REMAIN OPPOSED. NEXT SPEAKER.
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NEXT WE GO TO LINE 41, PLEASE GO
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AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON, DANIEL
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BRAD ON BEHALF OF FEAR OF
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CALIFORNIA AND OPPOSITION. AND
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NEXT WE HAVE LINE 25, PLEASE GO
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AHEAD. YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
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YES, WE CAN. ALRIGHT HAVE IT
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RECUR IN ORANGE, CALIFORNIA AND
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LIKE, UH, ELECTRIC UTILITIES IN
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CALIFORNIA LIKE SOUTHERN
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CALIFORNIA ABSENCE OF GAS AND
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ELECTRIC CAF FOCUSED ON
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UPGRADING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE
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IN ORDER TO PREVENT WILDFIRES
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EXPRESS YOUR YOUR NAME, YOUR
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AFFILIATION AND YOUR POSITION ON
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THE BILL, PLEASE. I AM A KINDA
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POST. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.
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AND NEXT WE GO TO LINE NUMBER
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30, PLEASE GO AHEAD. RICHARD
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JINGER FUR FOREST RIVER OPPOSED
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THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT
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WE'RE GONNA LINE NUMBER 35 5.
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JIM STEWART FROM LAKEWOOD AND
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BEHALF OF ALL THREE LOVERS
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OPPOSED. THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER.
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NEXT WE GO TO LINE NUMBER 19.
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PLEASE GO AHEAD. THIS IS MIRANDA
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EDISON AND MENDOCINO COUNTY, A
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POST THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER.
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NEXT WE'RE GONNA LINE NUMBER 24,
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PLEASE GO AHEAD. KAREN MACKEY
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FROM DECEMBER CISCO BAY AREA ON
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THE POSED. THANK YOU. WE'RE
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GONNA INTERRUPT PUBLIC TESTIMONY
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FOR A SECOND JUST TO ESTABLISH A
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QUORUM. CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE
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CALL THE ROLL? SENATOR HUESO
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PRESIDENT. WE'RE SO PRESENT
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DOLLY DOLLY HERE! BECKER BECKER
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HERE, GORGEOUS. BRADFORD
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BRADFORD HERE, DODD. NOT HERE,
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EGGMAN GONZALEZ. GONZALEZ HERE,
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GROVE HERE OVER HERE. HERZBERG
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MCGUIRE. MEN MEN HERE, RUBIO.
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STERN. OKAY WE HAVE AQUARIUM
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WILL GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC AND
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MODERATOR, CAN YOU PLEASE ACCUSE
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THE REMAINING SPEAKERS IN
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OPPOSITION TO SB 3 96. OF
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COURSE, AND NEXT WE GO TO LINE
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NUMBER 17, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES
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KEVIN CARLIN'S MARIN COUNTY.
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THIS IS RANDOMLY DESTRUCTIVE.
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NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT WE GO TO LINE
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NUMBERS. 33, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
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THIS IS CYNTHIA SHALLOT. I'M
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WITH CALIFORNIA STATE STRONG,
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INDIVIDUAL, INDIVISIBLE GREEN
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TEAM AND SACRAMENTO INDIVIDUAL
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AND WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
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BILL. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. AND
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NEXT WE GO TO LINE NUMBER 28,
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PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
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LIZ FROM THE BURGER FROM MARIN
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COUNTY BY M. A TREE AND
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LANDOWNER AND I AM OPPOSED TO
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THIS BILL VERY STRONGLY. THANK
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YOU NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT WE GO TO
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LINE NUMBER 29, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
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HI THIS IS SUSAN KLEIN AND I'M
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REPRESENTING MYSELF AND NUMEROUS
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OF MY NEIGHBORS IN THE TOWN OF
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NICK OSTEO, CALIFORNIA IN
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OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. THANK
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YOU NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT WE GO TO
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LINE 36, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES
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GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS GRACE
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ROGERS. I LIVE IN MARIN COUNTY
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HAVE VINTAGE REDWOODS AND
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SPOTTED OWLS AND I OPPOSED THE
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BILL. RESPECTFULLY. THANK YOU
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NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT WE GO TO LINE
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NUMBER 31, PLEASE GO AHEAD. TROY
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HUNTER, THE LOST COAST COALITION
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ON BOLT COUNTY VEHEMENTLY
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OPPOSED THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER.
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NEXT WE GO TO LINE NUMBER 39,
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PLEASE GO AHEAD. CHECK WITH THE
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L. A RESIDENT OF THE OAKLAND
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HILLS AND I'M OPPOSED TO US 3
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96. THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT
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WE GO TO LINE 38, PLEASE GO
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AHEAD. I AM INDEED, DAVIDSON AND
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I AM OPPOSED TO BE TWEEN DECKS
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AND I LIVE IN MORE INTACT. OKAY.
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THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT WE
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GO TO LINE NUMBER 44, PLEASE GO
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AHEAD. MY NAME IS RENEE. BOSS
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I'M FROM SAN ANSELMO. UH I
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REPRESENT LANDOWNERS THAT HAVE
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BEEN OPPOSING PG AND E. AND
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CENTER ON, UM OH VALLEY, AND
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I'M, A MEMBER OF THE TOWN OF SAN
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SOMEONE'S OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE
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AND THE PANEL SENTENCE ELMO. IS
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AN OPPOSITION TO SB 3 96. OKAY.
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THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. AND
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NEXT TO LINE NUMBER 45.
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NUMBER 45. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
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PLEASE GO AHEAD. NEXT SPEAKER.
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AND CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO
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FURTHER LINES IN QUÊ. OKAY NOW
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WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
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COMMENTS. JUST MY OWN COMMENTS.
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UH, THE FIRST TIME I GET TO SEE
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THIS BILL ACTUALLY TODAY AND UM
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, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A AN
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IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE
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WORKED ON AND I UNDERSTAND
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THERE'LL BE A PROCESS AND THAT
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THE BC WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE
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RULEMAKING PROCESS, AND WE CAN
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HOPE THAT THAT HAPPENS THROUGH
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THE RED RATHER THAN LATER AND
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THAT IN THE INTERIM UH, THE
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UTILITY COMPANIES REALLY FOCUS
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ON ADDRESSING THE MOST URGENT.
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TREE REMOVAL. UH, CHALLENGES. I
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UNDERSTAND YOU OFTEN HAVE TO
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REMOVE A TREE TO SAVE THE
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FORESTS AND REGARDS TO HOW OUR
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UTILITY SYSTEM WORK IN
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CALIFORNIA. WE'VE HAD FAR TOO
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MANY FIRES IN CALIFORNIA RELATED
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TO AH, UNSAFE TREES. AND THIS
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PROBLEM PRIMARILY BEEN THE
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PRINCIPLE THAT. INCENDIARY
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DEVICE IN CALIFORNIA, A TREE AND
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THAT'S UH BECAUSE THEY'RE OFTEN
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CITED SO CLOSE TO THE POLLS. THE
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POLLS ARE OFTEN NOT STRONG
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ENOUGH TO WITHSTAND THE WINDS
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AND BRANCHES CRASHING INTO THEM
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AND WHILE YES, I AGREE THE
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TRANSMISSION EQUIPMENT COULD BE
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UPGRADED IMPROVED, BUT UNTIL
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THAT HAPPENS, WE HAVE TO TAKE
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PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES. I AM
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PROPOSING TODAY THAT WE NOT VOTE
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ON THE BILL ITSELF AND ON ITS
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MERITS. WE HAVE NO MECHANISM TO
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AMEND THE BILL TODAY, AND I
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THINK THERE'S ALWAYS UM, THE
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PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE TO
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PROVIDE THE MEMBER INPUT AND TO
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BE PART OF THIS, UH LEGISLATIVE
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PROCESS. I WOULD LIKE THAT. THE
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COMMITTEE INVOKE, UH, UNDER
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SECTION 29 10 D CODE 292 OF THE
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RULES AND PROCEDURES. OF THE
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COMMITTEE. AND INVOKE CODE
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SECTION 2 92 THAT AMENDS. THAT
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THE THAT STATES THAT THE
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ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS BE TAKEN UP
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FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE BILL BE
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MOVED FORWARD TO THE SENATE
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FLOOR FOR CONSIDERATION AT THAT
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POINT, IF THE MEMBERS WOULD LIKE
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TO ADDRESS ANY UH, AMENDMENTS.
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WHETHER I MEAN THAT IS YOU KNOW
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UP TO NOT ONLY THE AUTHOR AND
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THE ASSEMBLY AND THE LEADERSHIP
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WORKING CONCURRENTLY TO MAKE
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THAT HAPPEN. THAT THAT HAPPENED
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AT THE SENATE FLOOR. AND I'M
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ASKING MEMBERS NOT TO VOTE ON
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THE MERITS OF THE BILL, IF
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ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN TAKING
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THAT MOTION THAT WILL MOVE THE
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BILL FORWARD IN THAT REGARD, SO
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THAT WE, UH UM ADDRESS THOSE
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ISSUES. ON THE SENATE FLOOR,
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WORKING WITH BOTH HOUSES. TO SEE
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IF WE CAN GET TO A PLACE WHERE
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WE CAN SUPPORT THIS BILL ON THE
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FLOOR. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MY
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RECOMMENDATIONS AS CHAIR OF THE
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COMMITTEE. OF COURSE YOU MEMBERS
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CAN CAN DO WHAT YOU LIKE,
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INCLUDING VOTING ON THE BILL ON
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ITS MERITS TODAY, OR OR, UH, OR
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NOT, SO I'LL GO TO THE COMMITTEE
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MEMBERS. IF ANYBODY LIKES TO
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MAKE ANY COMMENTS, WE'LL START
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WITH SISTER DODD. MR. CAN I JUST
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MOVE THE CHAIRS RECOMMENDATION.
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OKAY THAT YOU CAN DO THAT. IF
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UNLESS THERE'S ANY COMMENTS
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ALREADY. YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME
00:24:23.628 --> 00:24:25.230
COMMENTS AND OUR GROUP? YEAH
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YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN THANK
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YOU, MR CHAIR. I AM I, UH,
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DISABILITIES A TOUGH BILL
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BECAUSE I REALIZED THAT WE DO
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NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO
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FORCE MITIGATION AND MANAGEMENT.
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WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT POWER
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LINES ARE WITHOUT OBSTRUCTION.
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BUT THEY HUGE PROBLEMS THAT I
00:24:41.613 --> 00:24:44.015
HAVE IS THAT, UM, THIS ALLOWS
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YOU I USED TO GO ON EVERYBODY'S
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PRIVATE PROPERTY. CUT DOWN TREES
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. DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
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LEAVE. UM YOU KNOW, HALF CUT OFF
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TREES OR. OR HOLD TREES TAKEN
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DOWN WITHOUT THE OWNER OF THE
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PROPERTY THERE. I KNOW THEY GET
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A NOTIFICATION, BUT THEY DON'T
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HAVE TO HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO
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COME ON SOMEONE'S PRIVATE
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PROPERTY, WHICH I HAVE ALL MY
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RANCHERS AGAIN WITH ANOTHER, I O
00:25:08.840 --> 00:25:10.475
U THAT IS HAVING PROBLEMS. I
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MEAN, TO THE EXTENT THAT LAW
00:25:12.477 --> 00:25:13.612
ENFORCEMENT IS BEING CALLED ON
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THE I O US WHEN THEY COME ONTO
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THE PROPERTY AND LAWSUITS ARE
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BEING FILED LEFT AND RIGHT. I
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ALSO HAVE A PREVIOUS ISSUE WITH
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PG AND E. THEY JUST HAPPENED A
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FEW MONTHS AGO WHERE THEY TOOK
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150 YEAR OLD PALM TREES THAT
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HAVE BEEN THERE LONG BEFORE
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TRANSMISSION LINES OF THE LINES
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THAT WERE THERE, AND THEY JUST
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WENT AND WHACKED HIM OFF. AND
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THESE WERE HISTORIC IN OUR
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COMMUNITY, AND THEY JUST CAME
00:25:33.999 --> 00:25:35.867
OUT IN THE TREE TRIMMERS JUST
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CHOPPED THEM OFF, RIGHT. DEAD
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CENTER AND PALM TREES CAN'T GO
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GROW BACK LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S
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THE HUGE HEARTBURN I HAVE WITH
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THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. UM
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I'M DIVIDED ON THE BILL,
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BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, WE DO NEED
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TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE I
00:25:50.782 --> 00:25:53.718
O. U S HAVE ACCESS TO PROPERTY
00:25:53.785 --> 00:25:54.252
SO THAT THEY CAN MITIGATE
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:55.320
WILDFIRES AND MITIGATE PROBLEMS
00:25:55.387 --> 00:25:57.522
THAT WE HAVE WITH PS PS SHUTOFFS
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AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT I
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DON'T THINK THAT YOU GUYS THAT
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ANYONE NOT EVEN ANYONE ON THIS
00:26:03.995 --> 00:26:05.797
DIET SHOULD BE ABLE TO WALK ONTO
00:26:05.864 --> 00:26:07.332
SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY AND
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TAKE SOMETHING OFF OF THAT
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PROPERTY OR REMOVED TREES OR OR
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ANYTHING OFF OF THAT PROPERTY
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WITHOUT THAT OWNER'S
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AUTHORIZATION OR AT LEAST
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CONSENT TO KNOW YOU'RE ON THE
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PROPERTY. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR,
00:26:17.976 --> 00:26:21.980
SENATOR MAN. I HAD A QUESTION
00:26:22.047 --> 00:26:22.914
FOR THE CHAIR FIRST. I'M
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PROCEDURALLY. I APOLOGIZE FOR
00:26:24.449 --> 00:26:26.418
NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS. BUT WHAT
00:26:26.484 --> 00:26:28.787
EXACTLY ARE WE BEING ASKED? WHAT
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WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION VOTERS
00:26:30.455 --> 00:26:32.457
JUST TO SEND THE BILL TO THE
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SENATE WHERE WE CAN. I MEAN,
00:26:34.192 --> 00:26:36.261
THOSE ARE THAT'S AH, A BETTER
00:26:36.328 --> 00:26:39.297
PLATFORM FOR US TO EITHER. UM
00:26:39.364 --> 00:26:41.766
CONSIDER THE MERITS OF THE BILL
00:26:41.833 --> 00:26:44.169
DISCUSSED THE MERITS OF THE
00:26:44.235 --> 00:26:45.603
BILL. MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE
00:26:45.670 --> 00:26:46.604
BILL IF WE SEE NECESSARY HERE
00:26:46.671 --> 00:26:48.139
WHERE YOU ARE LEGALLY PRECLUDED
00:26:48.206 --> 00:26:50.408
FROM MAKING AMENDMENTS TO THE
00:26:50.475 --> 00:26:51.876
BILL. I MEAN, WE CAN DISCUSS THE
00:26:51.943 --> 00:26:53.578
BILL IN ITS MERITS AND BROUGHT
00:26:53.645 --> 00:26:55.013
IT UP AND DOWN. BUT PROCEDURALLY
00:26:55.080 --> 00:26:57.082
HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN JUST
00:26:57.148 --> 00:26:59.217
RECOMMENDING THAT WE VOTED? WELL
00:26:59.284 --> 00:27:01.186
PROCEDURALLY. IT'S SIMPLY SENDS
00:27:01.252 --> 00:27:02.620
A MESSAGE THAT NEITHER OF US
00:27:02.687 --> 00:27:04.155
VOTED IN SUPPORT WERE IN
00:27:04.222 --> 00:27:05.991
OPPOSITION OF THE BILL. WE JUST
00:27:06.057 --> 00:27:06.958
SIMPLY MOVED IT FORWARD.
00:27:07.025 --> 00:27:08.126
COMMITTEE TO HAVE THAT
00:27:08.193 --> 00:27:09.761
DISCUSSION THERE. OKAY AND THEN
00:27:09.828 --> 00:27:12.263
I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE AUTHOR
00:27:12.330 --> 00:27:15.433
AND OR THE SPONSOR. I MEAN, THE
00:27:15.500 --> 00:27:16.601
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS IS PRETTY
00:27:16.668 --> 00:27:18.703
SOBER. I MEAN, IT'S UM I SEE
00:27:18.770 --> 00:27:21.606
HERE THAT I MEAN, READING
00:27:21.673 --> 00:27:23.174
BETWEEN THE LINES AT THAT. PG
00:27:23.241 --> 00:27:25.110
AND E HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AS
00:27:25.176 --> 00:27:26.444
ENGAGING IN THE PAST AND
00:27:26.511 --> 00:27:28.747
EGREGIOUS AND RECKLESS LOGGING.
00:27:28.813 --> 00:27:30.515
AND CERTAINLY I THINK I SHOULD
00:27:30.582 --> 00:27:33.318
CONCERNS OF SENATOR GROVE. UM
00:27:33.385 --> 00:27:36.221
YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED TO THIN OUT
00:27:36.287 --> 00:27:37.689
OUR FOREST. WE DO NEED
00:27:37.756 --> 00:27:38.456
MITIGATION, AND THAT'S REALLY
00:27:38.523 --> 00:27:39.557
IMPORTANT. BUT I GUESS MY
00:27:39.624 --> 00:27:43.094
QUESTION IS AH! WHAT DOES WHY IS
00:27:43.161 --> 00:27:46.131
IT A B 29 11? THE FRIEDMAN BILL
00:27:46.197 --> 00:27:47.499
THAT ALLOWS, UH PRUNING AND
00:27:47.565 --> 00:27:50.635
REMOVING HAZARD HAZARDOUS TREES.
00:27:50.702 --> 00:27:51.970
NOT SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS SOME
00:27:52.037 --> 00:27:54.773
OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE FACING.
00:27:54.839 --> 00:28:02.013
AND THAT OKAY, OKAY. I THINK TO
00:28:02.080 --> 00:28:03.681
SENATOR GROWS POINT. IT'S PART
00:28:03.748 --> 00:28:05.750
OF THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD FRAMING
00:28:05.817 --> 00:28:07.619
THIS BILL TO BEGIN WITH. WE ARE
00:28:07.685 --> 00:28:09.387
REQUIRED OR ALLOWED TO GO ON
00:28:09.454 --> 00:28:11.022
PRIVATE PROPERTY ALREADY. IT'S
00:28:11.089 --> 00:28:12.357
SO THEN YOU HAVE THE MORAL
00:28:12.424 --> 00:28:14.859
ARGUMENT OF IS IT THE PRIVATE
00:28:14.926 --> 00:28:15.627
PROPERTY OWNERS INTEREST IN
00:28:15.693 --> 00:28:18.263
PRESERVING A TREE? OR IS IT THE
00:28:18.329 --> 00:28:19.464
COMMUNITY BENEFIT OF NOT HAVING
00:28:19.531 --> 00:28:20.732
THAT TREE SORT OF FIRE? THAT
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:22.934
RESULTS IN NOT JUST PGD BEING
00:28:23.001 --> 00:28:24.702
LIABLE FOR THE FIRE, BUT OUR
00:28:24.769 --> 00:28:26.237
CUSTOMERS AS WELL, SO THERE'S A
00:28:26.304 --> 00:28:28.139
THERE'S AN IMPACT TO THAT THAT
00:28:28.206 --> 00:28:29.307
WE NEED TO BALANCE BECAUSE
00:28:29.374 --> 00:28:30.875
INVERSE CONDEMNATION EXISTS IF
00:28:30.942 --> 00:28:33.311
THERE WAS NO LIABILITY FOR THAT
00:28:33.378 --> 00:28:34.779
PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TREAT TO
00:28:34.846 --> 00:28:36.548
START A FIRE THAT RESULTS IN
00:28:36.614 --> 00:28:38.483
SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LIABLE FOR
00:28:38.550 --> 00:28:39.684
THEN THERE WOULD NOT EVEN BE AN
00:28:39.751 --> 00:28:40.752
INTEREST IN GOING ONTO
00:28:40.819 --> 00:28:41.686
SOMEBODY'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
00:28:41.753 --> 00:28:43.321
TRIMMING THE TREE. THAT'S THAT'S
00:28:43.388 --> 00:28:44.522
THE ROCK THAT WE'RE TRAPPED
00:28:44.589 --> 00:28:47.692
AGAINST. THE HARD PLACE THAT IS
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:50.328
THAT OWNER CAN SUE US FOR GOING
00:28:50.395 --> 00:28:50.929
ONTO THEIR PROPERTY. THAT LAW
00:28:50.995 --> 00:28:53.264
ALLOWS US TO DO AND THE PUC
00:28:53.331 --> 00:28:54.833
REQUIRES US TO DO IN THIS
00:28:54.899 --> 00:28:56.434
LEGISLATURE EXPECTS US TO DO AND
00:28:56.501 --> 00:28:57.469
WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING BUT
00:28:57.535 --> 00:28:59.137
THEN WE ARE STILL SUED FOR THAT.
00:28:59.204 --> 00:29:00.605
THERE ARE THE OTHER VEGETATION
00:29:00.672 --> 00:29:02.474
MANAGEMENT ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN
00:29:02.540 --> 00:29:07.011
RAISED THAT ARE AH! VAGUELY
00:29:07.078 --> 00:29:08.446
INCORRECT IN THE ANALYSIS
00:29:08.513 --> 00:29:10.081
BECAUSE THEY'RE PRESENTED ON ONE
00:29:10.148 --> 00:29:11.382
SIDE. THERE HAVE BEEN
00:29:11.449 --> 00:29:13.084
ALLEGATIONS, PARTICULARLY IN
00:29:13.151 --> 00:29:15.253
SANTA CRUZ BY THE COUNTY AND BY
00:29:15.320 --> 00:29:16.321
SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT HAVE
00:29:16.387 --> 00:29:17.922
BEEN COMPLAINTS THAT WERE FILED
00:29:17.989 --> 00:29:20.358
OF THE PUC. ALL OF THAT IS FOR
00:29:20.425 --> 00:29:22.227
WORK THAT WAS DONE WITHIN OUR
00:29:22.293 --> 00:29:22.861
EASEMENTS. SO OUTSIDE THE SCOPE
00:29:22.927 --> 00:29:26.331
OF THIS BILL, UM, THAT WAS WORK
00:29:26.397 --> 00:29:27.165
THAT WAS DONE WITH BARBARA'S
00:29:27.232 --> 00:29:28.900
PRESIDENT THAT THEY HAVEN'T
00:29:28.967 --> 00:29:29.934
ACTUALLY NOT IDENTIFIED, WHICH
00:29:30.001 --> 00:29:31.002
TREES WERE IN CUTTING CORRECTLY.
00:29:31.069 --> 00:29:35.006
BUT THERE ARE ISSUES THAT WHERE
00:29:35.073 --> 00:29:35.874
YOU ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING
00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:37.642
WITH WITH THE BOARD OF FORESTRY
00:29:37.709 --> 00:29:39.277
RELATED TO THE FOREST PRACTICE
00:29:39.344 --> 00:29:40.378
RULES, THERE IS SIMPLY A
00:29:40.445 --> 00:29:42.347
CONFLICT WITH THE BOARD FORESTRY
00:29:42.413 --> 00:29:44.115
RULES, FORCE PRACTICE RULES AND
00:29:44.182 --> 00:29:47.285
PC REQUIREMENTS THAT NEEDS TO BE
00:29:47.352 --> 00:29:47.919
ADDRESSED. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO
00:29:47.986 --> 00:29:49.087
ENGAGE THE BORDER FORESTRY
00:29:49.154 --> 00:29:50.989
ADMINISTRATION FOR MORE THAN TWO
00:29:51.055 --> 00:29:52.891
YEARS TO GET THEM TO WORK ON
00:29:52.957 --> 00:29:53.892
THAT, SO HOPEFULLY THAT IS THE
00:29:53.958 --> 00:29:55.527
PROPER VENUE. FOR ADDRESSING
00:29:55.593 --> 00:29:58.730
OVERALL. COMPLIANCE WITH THAT
00:29:58.796 --> 00:30:00.298
ARE EASEMENTS. BUT AGAIN, THIS
00:30:00.365 --> 00:30:02.133
BILL JUST FOCUSES ON OUTSIDE OF
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:03.601
THESE MINTS WHEN YOU HAVE A 20
00:30:03.668 --> 00:30:06.604
FT RIGHT AWAY AND THE TREES JUST
00:30:06.671 --> 00:30:07.739
OUTSIDE OF IT, AND THAT TREE
00:30:07.805 --> 00:30:10.241
ISN'T IDENTIFIED. HAZARD WHAT
00:30:10.308 --> 00:30:11.409
ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THAT
00:30:11.476 --> 00:30:12.810
TREE? DO WE LEAVE AND LET US
00:30:12.877 --> 00:30:15.380
START A FIRE? FOR SO WE'RE
00:30:15.446 --> 00:30:16.881
TRYING TO SET UP THE PROCESS TO
00:30:16.948 --> 00:30:18.216
NOTIFY THE LANDOWNER TO LEASE
00:30:18.283 --> 00:30:20.151
HAVE TO BE HEARD. SO I HOPE THAT
00:30:20.218 --> 00:30:22.520
HELPS. ALRIGHT MR CHAIR IF I
00:30:22.587 --> 00:30:24.722
JUST MIGHT ASK AGAIN WHAT? WHAT
00:30:24.789 --> 00:30:26.958
WOULD BE THE AMENDMENTS THAT
00:30:27.025 --> 00:30:27.525
WHAT MIGHT BE ADDED TO THIS
00:30:27.592 --> 00:30:28.660
PARTICULAR BILL? OR WE JUST
00:30:28.726 --> 00:30:30.161
SPEAKING THAT REMAINS TO BE
00:30:30.228 --> 00:30:33.865
SEEN. OKAY THANK YOU, UH,
00:30:33.932 --> 00:30:35.200
SENATOR DOLLY THANK YOU, MR
00:30:35.266 --> 00:30:39.204
CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO
00:30:39.270 --> 00:30:40.438
FRAME THE ISSUE SOMETHING THIS
00:30:40.505 --> 00:30:41.773
IS SOMETHING I'VE WORKED ON A
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.275
LOT AND I HAVE UH, I HAVE PEOPLE
00:30:44.342 --> 00:30:47.845
WHO SIT IN THE TREES AND STOP
00:30:47.912 --> 00:30:49.781
PGD FROM ALLOWING TO CLEAR RIDE
00:30:49.847 --> 00:30:53.418
A WAYS. TREE SITTERS, AND IT'S
00:30:53.484 --> 00:30:55.386
IN THERE RIGHT AWAY. SO LET'S I
00:30:55.453 --> 00:30:57.589
WANT TO DEFINE FIRST. THEY HAVE
00:30:57.655 --> 00:30:59.524
THE RIGHT TO TAKE DOWN
00:30:59.591 --> 00:31:00.825
EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THEIR
00:31:00.892 --> 00:31:03.361
EASEMENT AND RIGHT AWAY. PERIOD
00:31:03.428 --> 00:31:04.929
TO MAKE IT SAFE. WHAT WE'RE
00:31:04.996 --> 00:31:10.501
TALKING ABOUT IS A TREE THAT'S
00:31:10.568 --> 00:31:12.670
OUTSIDE OF THEIR RIGHT AWAY.
00:31:12.737 --> 00:31:13.304
THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT. THEY'RE
00:31:13.371 --> 00:31:15.306
LYING. AND WE'VE SEEN IN THE
00:31:15.373 --> 00:31:17.542
CASE OF I THINK IT WAS SOUTHERN
00:31:17.609 --> 00:31:18.910
CALIFORNIA EDISON WERE UPON
00:31:18.977 --> 00:31:20.378
BRANCH BLEW OFF OF A TREE AND
00:31:20.445 --> 00:31:21.746
STARTED FIRE AND BURNED DOWN
00:31:21.813 --> 00:31:24.182
HALF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
00:31:24.249 --> 00:31:26.317
UTILITY WAS LIABLE FOR ALL THAT
00:31:26.384 --> 00:31:27.685
, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT IN
00:31:27.752 --> 00:31:28.920
THEIR RIGHT AWAY. SO THE BALANCE
00:31:28.987 --> 00:31:32.323
WE'RE TRYING TO STRIKE HERE IS
00:31:32.390 --> 00:31:35.260
THIS TREE, A LIABILITY TO THE
00:31:35.326 --> 00:31:36.427
UTILITY AND WHO MAKES THAT
00:31:36.494 --> 00:31:40.398
DECISION. IT IS PRIVATE
00:31:40.465 --> 00:31:41.799
PROPERTY, SOMETHING I CARED
00:31:41.866 --> 00:31:43.468
DEARLY ABOUT. BUT I ALSO CARE
00:31:43.534 --> 00:31:45.770
ABOUT GETTING ELECTRICITY TO MY
00:31:45.837 --> 00:31:48.106
CONSTITUENTS IN A SAFE MANNER.
00:31:48.172 --> 00:31:50.441
SO THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT. SO UM
00:31:50.508 --> 00:31:51.609
, I UNDERSTAND. I'D LIKE TO TALK
00:31:51.676 --> 00:31:55.546
ABOUT B<c.cyan> BECAUSE THE PUC IS</c>
00:31:55.613 --> 00:31:57.482
GOING TO ENTER. WHAT I
00:31:57.548 --> 00:31:59.450
UNDERSTAND IN THIS LEGISLATION
00:31:59.517 --> 00:32:01.052
IS GOING TO BE DIRECTED TO
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.355
FIGURE OUT WHO MAKES THE CALL ON
00:32:04.422 --> 00:32:06.090
THAT TREE. WHAT THAT'S OUTSIDE
00:32:06.157 --> 00:32:08.159
OF THE RIGHT AWAY. HE HAS THE
00:32:08.226 --> 00:32:10.261
RIGHT AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN
00:32:10.328 --> 00:32:14.165
SANTA CRUZ AREA THAT ARE NOT
00:32:14.232 --> 00:32:15.566
HAPPY. THOSE TREES WERE IN THE
00:32:15.633 --> 00:32:17.368
RIGHT AWAY. IT'S THE TREE THAT'S
00:32:17.435 --> 00:32:18.970
OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT AWAY. SO
00:32:19.037 --> 00:32:21.139
CAN SOMEBODY TALK TO ME ABOUT
00:32:21.205 --> 00:32:22.740
WHAT THE PUC IS GOING TO DO? AH
00:32:22.807 --> 00:32:24.942
MAKE THE DETERMINATION THIS BILL
00:32:25.009 --> 00:32:26.944
HAS A SUNSET ON IT BECAUSE IT IS
00:32:27.011 --> 00:32:28.746
DICEY. UM BUT THE BUT THE
00:32:28.813 --> 00:32:30.581
QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE WHO'S
00:32:30.648 --> 00:32:33.084
GOING TO MAKE THE CALL ON THE
00:32:33.151 --> 00:32:34.052
TREE THAT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AND
00:32:34.118 --> 00:32:35.453
GREEN BUT REALLY IS A HAZARD TO
00:32:35.520 --> 00:32:38.890
THE UTILITY AND TO THE TO THE
00:32:38.956 --> 00:32:40.024
ENVIRONMENT THAT IT'S WHO MAKES
00:32:40.091 --> 00:32:43.561
THAT CALL. DO YOU WANNA YOU
00:32:43.628 --> 00:32:45.396
WANNA ANSWER THAT? I WANT TO
00:32:45.463 --> 00:32:47.665
TAKE A STEP AT THAT. YEAH, IT'S
00:32:47.732 --> 00:32:49.901
A FAIR QUESTION, AND THERE HAVE
00:32:49.967 --> 00:32:51.336
BEEN PROPOSALS BEFORE TO REQUIRE
00:32:51.402 --> 00:32:53.971
THAT EVERY SINGLE TREE IS
00:32:54.038 --> 00:32:54.472
REVIEWED BY REGISTERED
00:32:54.539 --> 00:32:56.808
PROFESSIONAL FORRESTER OR AN
00:32:56.874 --> 00:32:58.509
ARBORIST. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT
00:32:58.576 --> 00:33:01.012
IS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF THOSE
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:02.413
FOLKS IN CALIFORNIA ANYWHERE IN
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:03.981
THE UNITED STATES. IT TAKES OVER
00:33:04.048 --> 00:33:06.217
SEVEN YEARS TO BECOME AN RPF. UM
00:33:06.284 --> 00:33:08.052
IT'S AN ISSUE WE RUN INTO
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:09.187
GENERALLY ALL OF OUR CONTRACT
00:33:09.253 --> 00:33:10.555
AND CRUZ. AND OUR CREWS THAT ARE
00:33:10.621 --> 00:33:13.257
OUT THERE OPERATE UNDERNEATH THE
00:33:13.324 --> 00:33:13.958
EXPERTISE OF REGISTERED
00:33:14.025 --> 00:33:16.227
PROFESSIONAL FORRESTER, SO THEY
00:33:16.294 --> 00:33:17.762
ARE ULTIMATELY THE ONES THAT ARE
00:33:17.829 --> 00:33:18.796
LIABLE FOR DETERMINING WHETHER
00:33:18.863 --> 00:33:21.632
OR NOT A TREE IS A HAZARD OR
00:33:21.699 --> 00:33:23.301
NOT. IT'S A IT'S ART, AND IT'S A
00:33:23.368 --> 00:33:25.536
SCIENCE AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S
00:33:25.603 --> 00:33:26.938
PART OF THE THING THAT THE PC
00:33:27.004 --> 00:33:28.272
CAN DEVELOP WHEN THEY ARE
00:33:28.339 --> 00:33:30.808
CREATING THIS PROCESS TO CLARIFY
00:33:30.875 --> 00:33:31.909
WHAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD
00:33:31.976 --> 00:33:33.277
ACTUALLY MEANS. BECAUSE
00:33:33.344 --> 00:33:34.445
CURRENTLY LONGER SAYS, WE HAVE
00:33:34.512 --> 00:33:35.413
TO PROVIDE THE LANDOWNER
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.248
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. AND I
00:33:37.315 --> 00:33:38.616
CAN GUARANTEE THAT WE INTERPRET
00:33:38.683 --> 00:33:41.219
THAT DIFFERENT THAN OUR OTHER
00:33:41.285 --> 00:33:42.653
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES, AS
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:44.122
WELL AS THE PUBLIC UTILITIES.
00:33:44.188 --> 00:33:45.556
EVERYONE HAS VERY DIFFERENT
00:33:45.623 --> 00:33:46.157
NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS AND
00:33:46.224 --> 00:33:47.258
STANDARDS AND PRACTICES. SO
00:33:47.325 --> 00:33:49.594
HAVING THE PUC COME UP WITH THAT
00:33:49.660 --> 00:33:50.828
IS VERY BENEFICIAL. I THINK TO
00:33:50.895 --> 00:33:52.764
ALL LANDOWNERS, IT'S I DON'T
00:33:52.830 --> 00:33:55.366
THINK IT'S EVEN WRITE THAT.
00:33:55.433 --> 00:33:56.734
DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS SHOULD HAVE
00:33:56.801 --> 00:33:58.569
A DIFFERENT BENEFITS BASED UPON
00:33:58.636 --> 00:34:00.371
WHAT SERVICE TERRITORY THERE IN
00:34:00.438 --> 00:34:01.406
, UM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
00:34:01.472 --> 00:34:04.075
CURRENT LAW, UH, SETS UP SO THE
00:34:04.142 --> 00:34:05.777
PC CAN COME UP WITH SOME COMMON
00:34:05.843 --> 00:34:07.912
FOR AMERICA OF HOW THIS IS ALL
00:34:07.979 --> 00:34:08.579
SUPPOSED TO WORK. I THINK
00:34:08.646 --> 00:34:09.781
EVERYONE BENEFITS FROM THAT IS
00:34:09.847 --> 00:34:11.482
THAT REQUIRED IN THIS BILL
00:34:11.549 --> 00:34:12.583
ACTUALLY DO IT THAT THEY ARE
00:34:12.650 --> 00:34:15.486
DIRECTED TO COME UP WITH SOME
00:34:15.553 --> 00:34:16.487
SORT OF A PROCESS WHERE THE
00:34:16.554 --> 00:34:18.890
LANDOWNER SAYS I DON'T I
00:34:18.956 --> 00:34:20.658
DISAGREE WITH YOU UTILITY AND
00:34:20.725 --> 00:34:22.326
THERE'S SOMEBODY. THAT'S THE
00:34:22.393 --> 00:34:23.961
JUDGE B<c.cyan> BY. I BELIEVE IT'S</c>
00:34:24.028 --> 00:34:26.664
2024 HAS TO COME UP WITH THE
00:34:26.731 --> 00:34:27.665
NOTICE THE OPPORTUNITY HEARD IN
00:34:27.732 --> 00:34:29.967
THE TIMELINE FOR HOW THE
00:34:30.034 --> 00:34:31.436
LANDOWNER HAS TO NOTIFY US IF
00:34:31.502 --> 00:34:33.638
THEY WANT THE MATERIAL REMOVED
00:34:33.704 --> 00:34:34.372
OR HOW THEY MIGHT BE TREATED.
00:34:34.439 --> 00:34:35.573
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
00:34:35.640 --> 00:34:38.376
DOESN'T EXIST IN CURRENT LAW.
00:34:38.443 --> 00:34:40.878
SOMETHING WE HAVE TO MAKE A
00:34:40.945 --> 00:34:43.281
CHOICE. THANK YOU. GOOD BILL,
00:34:43.347 --> 00:34:45.516
BUT NECESSARY BILL, BUT ANYWAY,
00:34:45.583 --> 00:34:47.618
ANYONE ELSE SO WE HAVE A MOTION
00:34:47.685 --> 00:34:49.954
BY SENATOR DODD. DID YOU WANT TO
00:34:50.021 --> 00:34:51.522
MAKE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS? DID
00:34:51.589 --> 00:34:55.426
YOU SPEAK UP, SIR? YEAH.
00:34:55.493 --> 00:34:56.461
APOLOGIES FOR THE INTERRUPTION.
00:34:56.527 --> 00:34:58.596
I JUST CAME LATE AFTER FINISHING
00:34:58.663 --> 00:34:59.997
THE NATURAL RESEARCH AND WATER
00:35:00.064 --> 00:35:01.499
COMMITTEE HEARING. UNFORTUNATELY
00:35:01.566 --> 00:35:03.067
IN THESE 29 10 HEARINGS, WE
00:35:03.134 --> 00:35:04.669
DON'T HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
00:35:04.735 --> 00:35:06.003
DUAL REFERRALS, THOUGH I
00:35:06.070 --> 00:35:07.205
APPRECIATE THE ENERGY COMMITTEE,
00:35:07.271 --> 00:35:08.439
TAKING THE RESOURCE IN WATER
00:35:08.506 --> 00:35:09.006
COMMITTEE'S COMMENTS INTO
00:35:09.073 --> 00:35:13.978
ACCOUNT, UM. WE HEARD THIS BILL
00:35:14.045 --> 00:35:15.413
AND ITS FIRST ITERATION AND PART
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:16.714
OF THE FRUSTRATION HERE IS WITH
00:35:16.781 --> 00:35:18.483
PROCESS WHERE WE HEARD A BILL
00:35:18.549 --> 00:35:19.884
FROM SENATOR DOLLY THAT WE MOVED
00:35:19.951 --> 00:35:21.752
OUT AND THEN EVERYTHING CHANGED
00:35:21.819 --> 00:35:23.521
IN THE OTHER HOUSE. AND NOW
00:35:23.588 --> 00:35:24.489
WE'RE SEEING A VERY DIFFERENT
00:35:24.555 --> 00:35:25.990
BILL ON THE WAY BACK. THAT
00:35:26.057 --> 00:35:27.492
CLEARLY STILL HAS SOME ISSUES
00:35:27.558 --> 00:35:29.494
WITH IT. UM I'M HOPING TO GET I
00:35:29.560 --> 00:35:31.529
KNOW WE MAY NOT HAVE THE
00:35:31.596 --> 00:35:32.163
OPPORTUNITY FOR AMENDMENTS AT
00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:33.798
THIS POINT, BECAUSE WE'RE IN 29
00:35:33.865 --> 00:35:35.600
10 HERE, UM BUT BUT CERTAINLY,
00:35:35.666 --> 00:35:39.737
UM CERTAINLY THE COMMITTEE. OUR
00:35:39.804 --> 00:35:41.939
COMMITTEE DOES HAVE SOME IDEAS
00:35:42.006 --> 00:35:43.241
ON HOW TO RESOLVE SOME OF THESE
00:35:43.307 --> 00:35:43.774
OUTSTANDING VAGARIES AND
00:35:43.841 --> 00:35:45.610
EXISTING LAW AS WELL AS UNDER
00:35:45.676 --> 00:35:46.477
THE BILL, NAMELY, I WAS
00:35:46.544 --> 00:35:48.613
WONDERING IF THE PG AND E
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:49.480
REPRESENTATIVE COULD COMMENT, UM
00:35:49.547 --> 00:35:51.716
, ON THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL ACT
00:35:51.782 --> 00:35:53.084
AND FORCE PRACTICE ACT PIECE
00:35:53.150 --> 00:35:55.052
THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE IN THE
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:58.556
ANALYSIS AND IN PARTICULAR, IT,
00:35:58.623 --> 00:35:59.991
SAYS THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL ACT
00:36:00.057 --> 00:36:01.158
IN THE FOREST PRACTICE ACT
00:36:01.225 --> 00:36:04.629
APPLY. BUT UNDER THAT PGD IS
00:36:04.695 --> 00:36:06.564
CURRENTLY CLAIMING THAT ITS
00:36:06.631 --> 00:36:07.765
ACTIONS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE
00:36:07.832 --> 00:36:10.401
FOREST PRACTICE ACT. SO IF WE'RE
00:36:10.468 --> 00:36:11.869
SAYING THAT A BODYOF LAW
00:36:11.936 --> 00:36:14.572
APPLIES BUT THEN IN TURN, YOU'RE
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:15.873
SAYING YOU'RE NOT SUBJECT TO IT.
00:36:15.940 --> 00:36:19.577
IT'S SORT OF A NON IT'S A IT'S A
00:36:19.644 --> 00:36:21.045
NOTHING PHRASE IN THIS IN THIS
00:36:21.112 --> 00:36:22.880
BILL, AND IN OTHER WORDS, YOU
00:36:22.947 --> 00:36:23.948
WILL OPERATE. OUTSIDE OF THE
00:36:24.015 --> 00:36:25.516
BOUNDS OF FOREST PRACTICES ACT.
00:36:25.583 --> 00:36:26.918
CAN YOU COMMENT ON YOUR POSITION
00:36:26.984 --> 00:36:28.486
ON THAT ISSUE AND SORT OF HOW
00:36:28.553 --> 00:36:30.922
YOU SEE IT? PLAYING OUT IN THIS
00:36:30.988 --> 00:36:31.589
IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS? YOU WERE
00:36:31.656 --> 00:36:32.990
JUST REFERRING TO? ABSOLUTELY
00:36:33.057 --> 00:36:34.458
AND THE REFERENCE TO COASTAL
00:36:34.525 --> 00:36:34.959
COMMISSION WAS IN THERE
00:36:35.026 --> 00:36:37.128
SPECIFICALLY AT THE REQUEST OF
00:36:37.194 --> 00:36:38.396
THE COASTAL COMMISSION, THE
00:36:38.462 --> 00:36:39.630
REFERENCED THE FOREST PRACTICES
00:36:39.697 --> 00:36:40.731
ACT AND RULES WAS IN THERE
00:36:40.798 --> 00:36:44.268
SPECIFICALLY AT THE REQUEST OF
00:36:44.335 --> 00:36:45.703
HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH
00:36:45.770 --> 00:36:47.805
CAL FIRE. UM IT WAS MENTIONED
00:36:47.872 --> 00:36:49.440
RIGHT BEFORE YOU WALKED IN THAT
00:36:49.507 --> 00:36:51.409
WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ENGAGE
00:36:51.475 --> 00:36:53.311
THE BORDER FORESTRY OR ALMOST
00:36:53.377 --> 00:36:54.845
THREE YEARS TO UPDATE THE FOREST
00:36:54.912 --> 00:36:56.447
PRACTICE RULES THAT APPLY TO
00:36:56.514 --> 00:36:58.349
UTILITIES BECAUSE THERE ARE
00:36:58.416 --> 00:36:59.417
PROVISIONS OF THE FOREST
00:36:59.483 --> 00:37:00.985
PRACTICE ROLES THAT ARE IN
00:37:01.052 --> 00:37:02.553
DIRECT CONFLICT WITH B<c.cyan></c>
00:37:02.620 --> 00:37:04.422
REQUIREMENTS SINCE THEY WELL, UM
00:37:04.488 --> 00:37:05.723
, SOMETIMES WE NEED TO TAKE A
00:37:05.790 --> 00:37:07.425
TREE THAT MIGHT BE AN ENDANGERED
00:37:07.491 --> 00:37:08.559
SPECIES. SO THERE'S SOME
00:37:08.626 --> 00:37:09.627
COMPLICATED ISSUES THERE THAT WE
00:37:09.694 --> 00:37:13.030
HAVE BEEN HOPING THAT THE BORDER
00:37:13.097 --> 00:37:14.065
FORESTRY AND ADMINISTRATION WILL
00:37:14.131 --> 00:37:15.800
HELP US OUT ON THERE'S SOME NEW
00:37:15.866 --> 00:37:18.002
LEADERSHIP OVER AT CAL FIRE, SO
00:37:18.069 --> 00:37:19.270
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME
00:37:19.337 --> 00:37:20.738
SUCCESS ON THAT MOVEMENT. SO IT
00:37:20.805 --> 00:37:23.608
IS A FAIR ISSUE. UM THERE ARE
00:37:23.674 --> 00:37:25.076
THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE
00:37:25.142 --> 00:37:26.777
DISCUSSED INCLUDED IN THE BILL
00:37:26.844 --> 00:37:29.647
ITSELF, BUT IT WAS DEEMED TO BE
00:37:29.714 --> 00:37:30.815
NOT WITHIN THE FOUR CORNERS OF
00:37:30.881 --> 00:37:32.650
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE HERE
00:37:32.717 --> 00:37:33.851
TODAY BECAUSE THE GOAL OF THIS
00:37:33.918 --> 00:37:35.686
BILL WAS TO MOVE IT AS
00:37:35.753 --> 00:37:37.622
EXPEDIENTLY AS POSSIBLE TO GET
00:37:37.688 --> 00:37:38.889
RID OF LIABILITY TO ALLOW US TO
00:37:38.956 --> 00:37:41.359
GO CUT THE TREES THAT ARE THE
00:37:41.425 --> 00:37:42.026
HAZARDS AND SIMULTANEOUSLY WORK
00:37:42.093 --> 00:37:43.094
THROUGH THE REGULATORY PROCESS
00:37:43.160 --> 00:37:44.562
TO RESOLVE THE BORDER FORESTRY
00:37:44.629 --> 00:37:46.197
ISSUES, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO
00:37:46.263 --> 00:37:48.499
HIDE THE BALL HERE. IT'S JUST
00:37:48.566 --> 00:37:49.700
IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN WE'RE TRYING
00:37:49.767 --> 00:37:50.301
TO STAY RESTATE THAT EXISTING
00:37:50.368 --> 00:37:51.736
LAW EXISTS BECAUSE IT ALWAYS
00:37:51.802 --> 00:37:55.439
DOES. UM OF NOTE. THE CURRENT
00:37:55.506 --> 00:37:56.941
LAW ACTUALLY HAS THE
00:37:57.008 --> 00:37:57.541
NOTWITHSTANDING LANGUAGE IN
00:37:57.608 --> 00:37:59.310
THERE THAT SAYS BASICALLY, NO
00:37:59.377 --> 00:38:01.212
OTHER LAWS APPLY. EXCEPT FOR THE
00:38:01.278 --> 00:38:02.480
WAY 40 TO 95.5 WAS WRITTEN. THE
00:38:02.546 --> 00:38:06.617
NEW BILL GETS RID OF THAT. SO
00:38:06.684 --> 00:38:08.486
IT'S EXTRA CLEAR MULTIPLE TIMES
00:38:08.552 --> 00:38:10.287
WITHIN THEIR THAT EXISTING LAWS
00:38:10.354 --> 00:38:12.123
FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND COASTAL
00:38:12.189 --> 00:38:14.458
ACT. ISSUES DO APPLY. WE DO NEED
00:38:14.525 --> 00:38:15.926
TO CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE
00:38:15.993 --> 00:38:16.994
BORDER FORESTRY TO GET THOSE
00:38:17.061 --> 00:38:18.863
ISSUES CORRECTED. BUT THAT'S A
00:38:18.929 --> 00:38:19.597
REGULATORY MATTER. BUT THE
00:38:19.664 --> 00:38:20.364
CURRENT YOUR CURRENT POSITION
00:38:20.431 --> 00:38:22.933
BEFORE THE BOARD OF FORESTRY IS
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.135
THAT THE FORCE PRACTICE ACT DOES
00:38:24.201 --> 00:38:25.403
NOT APPLY TO THESE ACTIONS.
00:38:25.469 --> 00:38:27.271
THERE'S CONFLICTS BETWEEN HOW
00:38:27.338 --> 00:38:32.276
YEAH. THE CONFLICT IS WHETHER OR
00:38:32.343 --> 00:38:33.711
NOT WE ARE TIMBER HARVEST
00:38:33.778 --> 00:38:35.046
OPERATOR OR NOT, WE WOULD ARGUE
00:38:35.112 --> 00:38:36.881
THAT WE'RE NOT BECAUSE WE ARE
00:38:36.947 --> 00:38:38.382
UTILITY AND THERE SHOULD BE NO
00:38:38.449 --> 00:38:39.250
TREES WITHIN THE TIMBERLANDS.
00:38:39.316 --> 00:38:41.185
THAT ISSUE IS VERY SPECIFIC TO
00:38:41.252 --> 00:38:41.986
OUR EASEMENTS THAT IS AGAIN
00:38:42.053 --> 00:38:43.921
OUTSIDE OF THIS ISSUE, WHICH IS
00:38:43.988 --> 00:38:44.922
OUTSIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT'S
00:38:44.989 --> 00:38:48.125
ARGUMENT. I AM GETTING VERY FAR
00:38:48.192 --> 00:38:49.193
OUTSIDE OF MY KNOWLEDGE HERE,
00:38:49.260 --> 00:38:51.228
BUT GENERALLY IF THERE'S AN
00:38:51.295 --> 00:38:53.064
EASEMENT, IT'S A RIGHT OF WAY.
00:38:53.130 --> 00:38:54.632
IT'S NOT TIMBERLAND. THEREFORE
00:38:54.699 --> 00:38:55.199
WE'RE NOT A TIMBER HARVEST
00:38:55.266 --> 00:38:55.833
OPERATOR BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE
00:38:55.900 --> 00:38:57.668
NO TIMBER THERE. THAT'S AN ISSUE
00:38:57.735 --> 00:38:59.170
THAT WHERE WERE YOU CONFLICTED
00:38:59.236 --> 00:39:00.671
THE PUC. SO WE NEED TO RESOLVE
00:39:00.738 --> 00:39:02.807
THAT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT
00:39:02.873 --> 00:39:04.341
, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE HELP
00:39:04.408 --> 00:39:05.376
GETTING THE BOARD TO MOVE
00:39:05.443 --> 00:39:07.011
FORWARD TO THAT ROLE MAKING, BUT
00:39:07.078 --> 00:39:08.245
THAT'S A BIT OF A DISTRACTION
00:39:08.312 --> 00:39:09.780
FROM THE LIABILITY PROBLEM THAT
00:39:09.847 --> 00:39:11.615
WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THE LAW.
00:39:11.682 --> 00:39:13.784
OKAY, UM I WISH THEY GAVE ME
00:39:13.851 --> 00:39:16.053
MORE CLARITY, BUT IT DOESN'T GET
00:39:16.120 --> 00:39:16.854
THAT IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE
00:39:16.921 --> 00:39:19.256
OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS
00:39:19.323 --> 00:39:20.491
BILL, EXCEPT THAT THE BILLS
00:39:20.558 --> 00:39:21.092
ENTIRE ENVIRONMENTAL INTEGRITY
00:39:21.158 --> 00:39:22.626
IS PROPPED UP ON THE APPLICATION
00:39:22.693 --> 00:39:24.495
OF FORCE PRACTICE ACT AND THE
00:39:24.562 --> 00:39:26.597
COASTAL ACT. SO IF YOU'RE
00:39:26.664 --> 00:39:27.698
ACTIVELY TRYING TO HAVE THAT NOT
00:39:27.765 --> 00:39:29.200
APPLY. IN THESE CASES. IT'S A
00:39:29.266 --> 00:39:30.735
BIT OF A MISNOMER TO SAY IT
00:39:30.801 --> 00:39:32.703
APPLIES. UM THE OTHER ISSUE WE
00:39:32.770 --> 00:39:34.672
HAVE IS FROM A RESOURCE
00:39:34.739 --> 00:39:36.607
PERSPECTIVE IS OUTSIDE OF
00:39:36.674 --> 00:39:38.275
COASTAL ZONE AND OUTSIDE OF
00:39:38.342 --> 00:39:39.643
FORCE PRACTICE ACT SO OUTSIDE OF
00:39:39.710 --> 00:39:40.544
TIMBERLAND AND OUTSIDE OF
00:39:40.611 --> 00:39:42.980
COASTAL ZONES, OAK WOODLANDS
00:39:43.047 --> 00:39:44.582
CHAPARRAL FOREST, THESE KINDS OF
00:39:44.648 --> 00:39:47.952
AREAS. UM THERE ARE NO UM,
00:39:48.018 --> 00:39:49.019
PROTECTIONS AFFORDED IN THIS
00:39:49.086 --> 00:39:51.455
MEASURE IS THAT CORRECT? WELL,
00:39:51.522 --> 00:39:55.860
THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. IF
00:39:55.926 --> 00:39:56.727
WE DO NOT FOLLOW THE VERY
00:39:56.794 --> 00:39:59.096
SPECIFIC PROCESS OF WHAT THE PC
00:39:59.163 --> 00:40:00.431
CREATES OR GOOD FAITH WITH THE
00:40:00.498 --> 00:40:02.600
REVISION, ALL LIABILITY REMAINS
00:40:02.666 --> 00:40:04.902
. THERE ARE CIVIL CODE CIVIL
00:40:04.969 --> 00:40:06.370
PROCEDURE CODE PENAL CODE
00:40:06.437 --> 00:40:07.872
VIOLATIONS THAT WILL HOLD
00:40:07.938 --> 00:40:09.440
ANYBODY, REGARDLESS OF UTILITY
00:40:09.507 --> 00:40:11.342
OR PERSON LIABLE FOR GOING ONTO
00:40:11.408 --> 00:40:11.942
SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY, CUTTING
00:40:12.009 --> 00:40:13.110
THEIR TREE, REMOVING THEIR TREE,
00:40:13.177 --> 00:40:14.879
DAMAGING THEIR VALUE THERE WOULD
00:40:14.945 --> 00:40:16.280
EXIST WITH OR WITHOUT THIS BILL.
00:40:16.347 --> 00:40:20.618
SO IF WE DO NOT FOLLOW THE BILL,
00:40:20.684 --> 00:40:22.153
NONE OF THE PROTECTIONS EXIST,
00:40:22.219 --> 00:40:23.454
AND CAL FIRE WILL CONTINUE TO
00:40:23.521 --> 00:40:24.688
CITE US FOR VIOLATIONS UNTIL WE
00:40:24.755 --> 00:40:26.924
GET THE REGULATORY ISSUE.
00:40:26.991 --> 00:40:28.559
ADDRESS SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO
00:40:28.626 --> 00:40:30.928
BE WAIVED WITH THIS BILL. UM I
00:40:30.995 --> 00:40:32.062
GET THE LANDOWNER PROPERTY
00:40:32.129 --> 00:40:33.664
ISSUES WILL STILL EXIST. THOSE
00:40:33.731 --> 00:40:35.166
SOME OF THOSE PROTECTIONS YOU
00:40:35.232 --> 00:40:36.567
KNOW, SORT OF BE LITIGATED DOWN
00:40:36.634 --> 00:40:38.302
THE LINE IF YOU WILL, BUT JUST
00:40:38.369 --> 00:40:41.338
TO BE CLEAR THERE ARE NO OTHER
00:40:41.405 --> 00:40:41.939
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS. NOT
00:40:42.006 --> 00:40:43.941
LANDOWNER OR PROPERTY OWNER PUC
00:40:44.008 --> 00:40:44.608
ISSUES BUT NO OTHER
00:40:44.675 --> 00:40:46.143
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS ON S<c.cyan></c>
00:40:46.210 --> 00:40:48.946
HABITAT OR THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES
00:40:49.013 --> 00:40:50.614
OUTSIDE OF COASTAL ZONES AND
00:40:50.681 --> 00:40:52.149
OUTSIDE OF TIMBERLAND, IS THAT
00:40:52.216 --> 00:40:54.652
THAT'S I MEAN ALL OTHER LAWS
00:40:54.718 --> 00:40:55.886
APPLY. THIS BILL DOES NOT WAIVE
00:40:55.953 --> 00:40:58.355
ANY OTHER LAWS BY CALLING OUT
00:40:58.422 --> 00:40:59.023
SPECIFICALLY THE FOREST PRACTICE
00:40:59.089 --> 00:41:00.424
ACT AND THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL
00:41:00.491 --> 00:41:01.725
ACT. THOSE WERE PUT IN THERE TO,
00:41:01.792 --> 00:41:05.696
UH. STAKEHOLDERS ASKED FOR THOSE
00:41:05.763 --> 00:41:07.464
TO BE REFERENCED. IT DOESN'T
00:41:07.531 --> 00:41:08.699
MEAN THAT ANY OTHER
00:41:08.766 --> 00:41:09.433
ENVIRONMENTAL LAW DOES NOT
00:41:09.500 --> 00:41:11.235
APPLY, AND THE BILL SPECIFICALLY
00:41:11.302 --> 00:41:13.504
SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH
00:41:13.571 --> 00:41:14.171
ALL OTHER EXISTING ENVIRONMENT,
00:41:14.238 --> 00:41:15.773
ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS. I
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:17.241
BELIEVE THAT'S THE PHRASE RIGHT
00:41:17.308 --> 00:41:18.542
AFTER IT SAYS FOREST PRACTICE
00:41:18.609 --> 00:41:19.476
RULES UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST
00:41:19.543 --> 00:41:21.645
LOOKING TO ANALYSIS AND JUST
00:41:21.712 --> 00:41:22.680
LOOKING AT THE ANALYSIS, IT SAYS
00:41:22.746 --> 00:41:25.149
OUTSIDE OF THESE AREAS LIKE AN
00:41:25.216 --> 00:41:25.716
OAK, WOODLANDS AND CHAPERONE
00:41:25.783 --> 00:41:27.251
FORCED THIS ON PAGE NINE.
00:41:27.318 --> 00:41:29.320
PROTECTIONS PROVIDED BY THESE
00:41:29.386 --> 00:41:30.087
OTHER LAWS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT
00:41:30.154 --> 00:41:32.990
WOULD NOT APPLY. SO, UM, I THINK
00:41:33.057 --> 00:41:33.991
WE JUST DISAGREE WITH THAT
00:41:34.058 --> 00:41:35.025
INTERPRETATION. GOT IT FROM THE
00:41:35.092 --> 00:41:36.327
COMMITTEE. YOU GUYS HAVE A
00:41:36.393 --> 00:41:39.330
DIFFERENT VIEW. WELL, YES, OKAY
00:41:39.396 --> 00:41:40.531
, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO TALK TO
00:41:40.598 --> 00:41:41.799
THE COMMITTEE CONSULTANT ABOUT
00:41:41.866 --> 00:41:44.902
THAT. ALRIGHT UM, THANK YOU FOR
00:41:44.969 --> 00:41:47.204
GIVING ME A LITTLE TIME WOULD
00:41:47.271 --> 00:41:48.472
WITH THESE SORT OF OUTSTANDING
00:41:48.539 --> 00:41:49.607
QUESTIONS. I CAN'T SUPPORT THE
00:41:49.673 --> 00:41:51.508
BILL TODAY, BUT I APPRECIATE THE
00:41:51.575 --> 00:41:58.282
PRESENTATION JUST BRIEFLY. YES.
00:41:58.349 --> 00:41:59.984
OKAY THEN WE'LL GO TO BECCA,
00:42:00.050 --> 00:42:02.319
SENATOR BECKER FIRST AND SENATOR
00:42:02.386 --> 00:42:06.757
BECKER. APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS
00:42:06.824 --> 00:42:09.126
FROM PG NAME. IT DOES SEEM LIKE
00:42:09.193 --> 00:42:10.294
THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE
00:42:10.361 --> 00:42:12.196
DONE HERE, AND I APPRECIATE THE
00:42:12.263 --> 00:42:15.532
UM THAT SPIRIT BUT ALSO DOES
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:16.800
SOUND LIKE IT FEELS LIKE THIS
00:42:16.867 --> 00:42:17.601
SHOULD GO THROUGH A FULL VETTING
00:42:17.668 --> 00:42:19.837
AND SHOULD GO THROUGH NATURAL
00:42:19.904 --> 00:42:20.838
RESOURCES COMMITTEE. THERE'S A
00:42:20.905 --> 00:42:22.172
LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.576
HERE. SO UM, SO I WOULD LIKELY
00:42:25.643 --> 00:42:27.745
NOT BE SUPPORTING IT TODAY FOR
00:42:27.811 --> 00:42:29.246
THAT REASON, BUT IT DOES FEEL
00:42:29.313 --> 00:42:30.748
LIKE WITH A MORE FULL VETTING.
00:42:30.814 --> 00:42:33.117
THERE WAS A DOLLY BILL THAT WE
00:42:33.183 --> 00:42:34.351
MOVED FORWARD, UM, THAT WE CAN
00:42:34.418 --> 00:42:35.419
GET TO A RESOLUTION IN THE
00:42:35.486 --> 00:42:37.421
FUTURE. SENATOR GROUP. THANK YOU
00:42:37.488 --> 00:42:39.523
, MR CHAIR. UH TWO PG. NEITHER
00:42:39.590 --> 00:42:41.058
STATES MADE THE COMMENTS. I GET
00:42:41.125 --> 00:42:42.626
THE FACT ON THE EASEMENT THINGS
00:42:42.693 --> 00:42:43.560
THAT THE EASEMENT LAND WHETHER
00:42:43.627 --> 00:42:45.763
IT'S 20 FT THIS WAY AND 20 FT.
00:42:45.829 --> 00:42:47.298
THAT WAY THAT THAT'S NOT
00:42:47.364 --> 00:42:48.766
CONSIDERED FOREST LAND. AND I
00:42:48.832 --> 00:42:50.401
KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A TOUGH JOB
00:42:50.467 --> 00:42:51.802
IN YOUR IN BETWEEN A ROCK AND A
00:42:51.869 --> 00:42:53.604
HARD PLACE. I GET THAT I JUST
00:42:53.671 --> 00:42:55.973
WISH THERE WAS SOME TYPE AND I
00:42:56.040 --> 00:42:57.308
KNOW YOU CAN STILL ONE PERSON'S
00:42:57.374 --> 00:42:58.709
PROPERTY, BUT YOU KNOW? I DON'T
00:42:58.776 --> 00:42:59.843
WANT TO SEE THE AVERAGE
00:42:59.910 --> 00:43:01.145
CONSISTENT CONSTITUENT, BUT THE
00:43:01.211 --> 00:43:01.745
AVERAGE CONSTITUENT. I THINK
00:43:01.812 --> 00:43:03.180
THAT THAT I REPRESENT DOESN'T
00:43:03.247 --> 00:43:04.581
UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEBODY CAN JUST
00:43:04.648 --> 00:43:07.051
COME ON THEIR PROPERTY WITHOUT
00:43:07.117 --> 00:43:07.651
THEIR AUTHORIZATION. AND SO I
00:43:07.718 --> 00:43:08.619
THINK IF YOU GUYS COULD WORK ON
00:43:08.686 --> 00:43:10.354
THAT THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD.
00:43:10.421 --> 00:43:12.790
BUT I DO GET THAT THIS IS A
00:43:12.856 --> 00:43:14.358
NECESSARY IT'S NECESSARY THAT WE
00:43:14.425 --> 00:43:16.427
DO, UM, BRUSH CLEARING TO
00:43:16.493 --> 00:43:18.862
PREVENT FOREST FIRES, AND SO, UM
00:43:18.929 --> 00:43:19.663
, I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND
00:43:19.730 --> 00:43:21.799
THAT I GET THE EASEMENT RIGHT
00:43:21.865 --> 00:43:23.233
WHERE I SEE THAT IT'S NOT
00:43:23.300 --> 00:43:25.269
ACTUALLY AFFECTED IN THE FOREST
00:43:25.336 --> 00:43:26.470
LANDS, PROPERTY OR THE FORCE
00:43:26.537 --> 00:43:27.237
LANDS. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE
00:43:27.304 --> 00:43:31.108
WILL ACCEPT THE MOTION. MADE BY
00:43:31.175 --> 00:43:38.248
SENATOR DODD TO INVOKE, UH. RULE
00:43:38.315 --> 00:43:41.285
2 92 AND MOVE THE FOOT BILL TO
00:43:41.352 --> 00:43:43.454
THE SENATE FOR A FULL DISCUSSION
00:43:43.520 --> 00:43:44.922
. AH DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY
00:43:44.989 --> 00:43:45.923
CLOSING COMMENTS? SENATOR
00:43:45.990 --> 00:43:47.391
BRADFORD. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR,
00:43:47.458 --> 00:43:48.926
AND I APPRECIATE THE DEBATE. I'M
00:43:48.993 --> 00:43:50.694
SOMEWHAT MIFFED AND DISAPPOINTED
00:43:50.761 --> 00:43:51.829
THAT THIS BILL HAS BEEN
00:43:51.895 --> 00:43:53.564
DESCRIBED AS A FREE FOR ALL TO
00:43:53.630 --> 00:43:56.066
REMOVE TREES OR SOMEONE WHO'S
00:43:56.133 --> 00:43:58.502
WORKED REALLY CONSERVATION CORPS
00:43:58.569 --> 00:44:00.371
. FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, I
00:44:00.437 --> 00:44:02.172
PROBABLY PLANTED MORE TREES THAN
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:03.774
EVERYBODY IN THIS LEGISLATURE.
00:44:03.841 --> 00:44:06.777
SO I ARE ALL ABOUT PRESERVING
00:44:06.844 --> 00:44:08.846
TREES BUT ALSO FOR SOMEONE WHO
00:44:08.912 --> 00:44:10.314
WORKED FOR UTILITY FOR 12 YEARS
00:44:10.381 --> 00:44:12.483
AND I KNOW THE PAINSTAKING
00:44:12.549 --> 00:44:14.184
MEASURES THAT THEY TAKE AN URBAN
00:44:14.251 --> 00:44:17.287
AREAS, LET ALONE IN RURAL AREAS
00:44:17.354 --> 00:44:18.489
BEFORE ACCESSING ANYONE'S
00:44:18.555 --> 00:44:20.791
PROPERTY TO REMOVE A TREE.
00:44:20.858 --> 00:44:22.226
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE PRACTICE
00:44:22.292 --> 00:44:23.527
AND IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE
00:44:23.594 --> 00:44:24.595
LOOKING TO REMOVE TREES. IF YOU
00:44:24.661 --> 00:44:28.298
LOOK AT ANY OF THE UTILITIES.
00:44:28.365 --> 00:44:29.400
THEY DON'T DESCRIBE IT AS TREE
00:44:29.466 --> 00:44:31.969
TRIMMING. THEY DON'T DESCRIBE IT
00:44:32.036 --> 00:44:33.804
AS TREE REMOVAL. THEY DESCRIBE
00:44:33.871 --> 00:44:35.939
IT AS LYING CLEARANCE AND THAT'S
00:44:36.006 --> 00:44:37.274
SIMPLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IT'S
00:44:37.341 --> 00:44:39.076
CLEARING OUR LINES TO MAKE SURE
00:44:39.143 --> 00:44:40.811
THAT DEBRIS DOES NOT CAUSE
00:44:40.878 --> 00:44:43.680
FOREST FIRES. AND EVEN IF YOU
00:44:43.747 --> 00:44:45.916
UPDATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
00:44:45.983 --> 00:44:48.218
BRANCH THAT TREE CAN STEAL CAUSE
00:44:48.285 --> 00:44:49.787
OF FOREST FIRE IS NOT THE WIRE
00:44:49.853 --> 00:44:52.322
IN IT OF ITSELF. IT'S WHAT FLIES
00:44:52.389 --> 00:44:54.291
INTO THAT WIRE OR FALLS INTO
00:44:54.358 --> 00:44:54.992
THAT WIRE THAT SPARKS THE FIRE.
00:44:55.059 --> 00:44:56.894
SO THIS IS ALL WE'RE TRYING TO
00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:59.263
DO, SO I'M EVERYONE'S SEEN. THEY
00:44:59.329 --> 00:45:00.731
WANT TO MAKE IT SAFER. THIS
00:45:00.798 --> 00:45:02.399
MAKES IT SAFER AGAIN. UTILITIES
00:45:02.466 --> 00:45:03.600
ARE NOT LOOKING TO GO CLEAR. CUT
00:45:03.667 --> 00:45:06.637
A FORCE. OR CUT DOWN ANY TREE
00:45:06.703 --> 00:45:08.806
UNNECESSARILY AND LIKE, SAY, I
00:45:08.872 --> 00:45:10.808
REPRESENTED AN URBAN AREA AND I
00:45:10.874 --> 00:45:13.977
KNOW HOW WE WOULD KNOCK ON DOORS
00:45:14.044 --> 00:45:15.679
UNTIL WE GOT TO ANSWER BEFORE WE
00:45:15.746 --> 00:45:17.815
EVEN TRIM THE TREE THAT WAS
00:45:17.881 --> 00:45:19.450
CLEARLY IN OUR RIGHT AWAY. WE
00:45:19.516 --> 00:45:21.118
CLEARLY HAD AN EASEMENT ON IT,
00:45:21.185 --> 00:45:23.220
BUT WE DIDN'T DO IT WILLY NILLY,
00:45:23.287 --> 00:45:25.422
AND I DON'T THINK THIS BILL WILL
00:45:25.489 --> 00:45:27.291
AFFORD THAT. BUT I RESPECT THE
00:45:27.357 --> 00:45:27.858
DISCUSSION THAT'S BEEN HERE
00:45:27.925 --> 00:45:28.826
TODAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR
00:45:28.892 --> 00:45:31.128
THE RECORD, I PUT MY TREE
00:45:31.195 --> 00:45:33.464
PLANTAIN. RECORD AGAINST YOURS
00:45:33.530 --> 00:45:36.733
ANY DAY. YEAH. OKAY, WE HAVE
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:41.772
EMOTION. AH! CLARK, PLEASE CALL
00:45:41.839 --> 00:45:48.812
THE ROLL. SP 396 BY SENATOR
00:45:48.879 --> 00:45:51.215
BRADFORD AT THE ASSEMBLY
00:45:51.281 --> 00:45:52.583
AMENDMENTS BE TAKEN UP FOR
00:45:52.649 --> 00:45:55.886
CONSIDERATION WHISTLE BY OH I
00:45:55.953 --> 00:45:59.356
DALI DALI I BECKER BECKER NO
00:45:59.423 --> 00:46:02.126
GORGEOUS BRADFORD BRADFORD. I
00:46:02.192 --> 00:46:05.762
DODD DOT I EGGMAN. EGGMAN I
00:46:05.829 --> 00:46:07.431
GONZALES GONZALES, I GROVE
00:46:07.498 --> 00:46:10.267
GROVE. I HERTZBERG MCGUIRE
00:46:10.334 --> 00:46:15.205
MCGUIRE NO MEN RUBIO. STERN
00:46:15.272 --> 00:46:24.114
STERN. NO. OKAY SO WE'LL WAIT
00:46:24.181 --> 00:46:27.017
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO COME BACK
00:46:27.084 --> 00:46:29.052
TO COMPLETE THE ROLE WILL HOLD
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.588
THE BILL. THE REAL COLD OPEN,
00:46:31.655 --> 00:46:35.959
PERHAPS MEMBERS STUDY COME BACK.
00:46:36.026 --> 00:46:39.263
WE HAVE WE HAVE WHERE THEY HAVE
00:46:39.329 --> 00:46:41.465
A CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
00:46:41.532 --> 00:46:42.533
MEMBERS. THANK YOU. UM,
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:46.537
GORGEOUS. HERTZBERG MEN IN I
00:46:46.603 --> 00:46:52.376
RUBIO. OKAY AND WILL HOLD THE
00:46:52.442 --> 00:46:53.477
ROLL UP AND PERHAPS SOME
00:46:53.544 --> 00:46:58.882
MEMBERS. HE WAS, HE SAID, YOU
00:46:58.949 --> 00:47:00.117
WERE IN THE BACK.IF YOU'RE NOT
00:47:00.184 --> 00:47:20.904
GOING TO DO YOU WANT TO.
00:47:58.675 --> 00:48:01.778
OKAY JUST WANNA ANNOUNCE THAT SP
00:48:01.845 --> 00:48:03.614
3 96 GOT THE NECESSARY AMOUNT OF
00:48:03.680 --> 00:48:05.382
VOTES TO CLEAR THIS COMMITTEE
00:48:05.449 --> 00:48:08.785
AND MOVE FORWARD. TO THE SENATE
00:48:08.852 --> 00:48:10.687
FLOOR, SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE
00:48:10.754 --> 00:48:13.490
THE ROLE. AND ADJOURNED
00:48:13.557 --> 00:48:20.797
COMMITTEE. AND SO, UM, I JUST
00:48:20.864 --> 00:48:23.934
WANT TO THANK EVERYONE. THAT
00:48:24.001 --> 00:48:26.536
PARTICIPATED TODAY IF YOUR
00:48:26.603 --> 00:48:27.771
COMMENTS WERE NOT HEARD, PLEASE
00:48:27.838 --> 00:48:30.741
FORWARD. THROUGH EITHER THROUGH
00:48:30.807 --> 00:48:32.042
AN EMAIL OR A LETTER. YOUR
00:48:32.109 --> 00:48:37.180
COMMENTS TO THE, UH. THE
00:48:37.247 --> 00:48:38.282
COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE OR TO THE
00:48:38.348 --> 00:48:47.624
CHAIR. UM. THANK YOU FOR TO
00:48:47.691 --> 00:48:48.792
EVERYONE FOR YOUR PAYMENT
00:48:48.859 --> 00:48:49.993
PATIENTS AND COOPERATIONS. WE
00:48:50.060 --> 00:48:52.396
HAVE CONCLUDED THE AGENDA. THE
00:48:52.462 --> 00:48:53.563
SENATE COMMITTEE ON YOUTUBE,
00:48:53.630 --> 00:48:54.031
ENERGY, UTILITIES AND
00:48:54.097 --> 00:49:10.847
COMMUNICATIONS HAS NOW INJURED.