MEDIA ON RULES WILL COME TO
ORDER. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE
. WE ARE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
HEARING IN THE O STREET BUILDING
IN ROOM 2200 AS WE CONTINUE TO
TAKE SOME PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE
ONGOING COVID 19 RISK. THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
PUBLIC AND HAS PROVIDED ACCESS
TO BOTH IN PERSON AND
TELECONFERENCE PARTICIPATION. UM
FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE, SERVICE
PARTICIPANT, TOLL FREE NUMBER
AND ACCESS CODE IS POSTED ON OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE. AND IT WILL
BE DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN RIGHT
NOW AND A NUMBER OF TIMES
THROUGHOUT THE COMMITTEE
HEARING, SO PEOPLE WILL HAVE
ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION.
TODAY'S PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS
8772. THERE IS AN ACCESS CODE
AND THAT IS 60148. I WILL
MAINTAIN DECORUM DURING THE
HEARING, AS IS CUSTOMARY, AND
ANY INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
DISRUPTIVE MAY BE REMOVED FROM
THE REMOTE MEETING SERVICE OR
HAVE THEIR CONNECTIONS MUTED. I
WILL ASK ALL SPEAKERS,
COLLEAGUES AND WITNESSES ALIKE
TO SPEAK SLOWLY AND CLEARLY SO
WE MAY CATCH YOUR TESTIMONY IF I
END UP INTERRUPTING YOU WHEN
YOU'RE SPEAKING FROM REMOTE,
IT'S ONLY TWO GET YOUR NAME.
MAKE SURE YOU SLOW DOWN OR THAT
WE CAN HEAR YOU. WE REALLY WANT
TO CAPTURE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
UM BEFORE WE BEGIN TODAY'S
AGENDA, WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A
QUORUM AS A REMEMBER. REMINDER.
EXCUSE ME. TO MY COLLEAGUES WILL
NEED TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONES
FOR THE ROLL CALL, AND EVERY
TIME THAT WE VOTE, SO, MADAM
SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL? GROVE PRESENT GROWTH
PRESENT KAMLAGER HERE. KAMLAGER
HERE, LAIRD HERE HERE. BATES
ATKINS HERE. ATKINS HERE AND FOR
THE RECORD, SENATOR BATES IS ON
HER WAY AND WILL BE HERE
IN ADVANCE. WE HAVE MEMBERS OF
THIS COMMITTEE WHO ARE
MULTITASKING. YOU MAY SEE THEM
COME AND GO. BUT I PROMISE YOU
WE WILL KEEP THE MEETING MOVING
AND, UM, RESPECT EVERYBODY'S
TIME. UM IF THERE ARE NO
OBJECTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE
UP FIRST ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES NOT
REQUIRED TO APPEAR AND THAT'S
ITEM TWO D THROUGH IN AND I AM
GOING TO NEED YOU TO WALK YOU
THROUGH THE ORDER BECAUSE I HAVE
TO SPLIT SOME VOTES. GIVEN THAT
WE HAVE TO BE THROUGH IN, SO
LISTEN CAREFULLY, AND I WILL ASK
FOR MOTIONS BASED ON THAT.
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT VOTES
NEEDED TO BE SEPARATED OUT. SO I
WOULD ASK FOR EMOTION FROM ONE
OF MY COLLEAGUES ON ITEM TWO. G.
J. K AND L. I WOULD SO MOVE AND
I HAVE A BRIEF COMMENT ONE. WE
GET TO IT. OKAY UM, WHY DON'T
YOU THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION?
AND WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND
MAKE YOUR COMMENTS? SENATOR
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT STEPHANIE
HARLAND HAD BEEN A CAPITAL CITY
COUNCIL MEMBER FOR I THINK, 28
YEARS AND WAS NOMINATED. AND
THEN IN THE CHANGE OF
ADMINISTRATIONS HAD HER
APPOINTMENT WITHDRAWN. AND I
THINK THAT THERE WAS A REAL
RECOGNITION THAT SHE HAD A LOT
TO CONTRIBUTE, AND SHE WAS
REAPPOINTED AND, UH AND IT'S
DOING A GREAT JOB AND COULD BE
VERY EXCITED TO SUPPORT HER
TODAY, AND I'M GLAD SHE WAS
WILLING TO DO IT GIVEN ALL THE
CIRCUMSTANCES IN THOSE, UH
CHANGES. SENATOR THANK YOU. AND
JUST SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS G
IS AN APPOINTMENT TO THE WATER
QUALITY CONTROL BOARD FROM THE
CENTRAL COAST. J IS A WATER
QUALITY CONTROL BOARD FROM THE
NORTH COAST REGION. AND K AND L
R TWO APPOINTMENT REAPPOINTMENT
ACTUALLY TO THE WATER QUALITY
CONTROL BOARD FROM THE SAN DIEGO
REGION. SO MADAM SECRETARY, LET
ME ASK YOU TO CALL THEROLL.
GROVE NO GROVE. NO KAMLAGER.
HI KAMLAGER. AYE LAIRD, I
BATES ATKINS ON CALL WILL BE ON
CALL FOR SENATOR BATES. I WILL
ASK FOR A MOTION ON TO EM, WHICH
IS AN APPOINTMENT TO THE WATER
QUALITY CONTROL BOARD FROM THE
SANTA ANA REGION. THANK YOU,
SENATOR KAMLAGER, MADAM
SECRETARY WE CALL THE ROLL GROVE
SAYING GROVE NOT VOTE GROVE
ABSTAIN. KAMLAGER AYE, KAMLAGER
. I LAIRD. I BATES ATKINS ATKINS
I ON CALLS CALL THE LAST ONE I
WOULD ASK FOR WOULD BE FOR ITEMS
TO D. E APPOINTMENTS TO THE
NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE
COMMISSION. AH F AH! MEMBER OF
THE CALIFORNIA VETERANS BOARD.
AH H MEMBER OF THE WATER QUALITY
CONTROL BOARD, THE COLORADO
RIVER BASIN REGION. UM I IS TO
THE WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD
NORTH COAST REGION AND IN IS
WATER CONTROL, WATER QUALITY
CONTROL BOARD MOUTHFUL SANTA ANA
REGION, I WOULD GUESS. THANK YOU
, SENATOR GROVE. MADAM SECRETARY
, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
GROVE GROVE? I KAMLAGER KAMLAGER
. AYE LAIRD. I BATES ATKINS HIGH
. ATKINS I ON CALL ON CALL. I
WOULD ASK IF I CAN TAKE A MOTION
ON ON ITEMS 34 AND 53 IS
REFERRAL OF BILLS FOR IS A
SELECT COMMITTEE REQUEST. TO
CREATE A SELECT COMMITTEE ON
MONKEY POX. UM AND FIVE IS A
FLOOR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT REQUEST BY
SENATOR STERN FOR THIS THURSDAY.
THANK YOU, SENATOR LAIRD, UH,
SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT
, MADAM SECRETARY. WE CALL THE
ROLL, GROVE GROVE. I KAMLAGER
KAMLAGER. I GLARED. I BATES
ATKINS, I ON CALL CALL. SO THANK
YOU FOR THAT, UM, WE WILL NOW GO
TO GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES
REQUIRED TO APPEAR AND WE WILL
TURN TO ITEM ONE. A. THE
APPOINTMENT OF DURING THE AMATO
JD TO THE STATE WATER RESOURCES
CONTROL BOARD. LET ME SAY
WELCOME. COME ON UP, AND AS
YOU'RE GETTING SEATED, I WILL,
UM SUGGEST AN OFFER THAT YOU ARE
WELCOME TO MAKE OPENING COMMENTS
ACKNOWLEDGE ANYONE THAT YOU
WOULD LIKE TO THANK OR IN
PARTICULAR, UM, POINT OUT AND
THEN OPENING COMMENTS, AND THEN
WE'LL GO RIGHT TO MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS. WELCOME THANK YOU SO
MUCH, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
IT'S REALLY AN HONOR TO BE HERE
TODAY, AND I'D LIKE TO START BY
THANKING YOU ALL AND YOUR STAFF.
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND
SOME TIME WITH YOU OVER THESE
LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. I'D ALSO
LIKE TO THANK MY FAMILY FOR
THEIR ONGOING SUPPORT, AND
THEY'RE WATCHING ON THE WEB
TODAY. MY HUSBAND, BURJ MUSIC
IAN, OR THREE GROWN CHILDREN AND
MY PARENTS. AND THEN WITH ME
TODAY IS ANIMAL IN DEZ. SHE'S
OUR LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR WHO I
THINK MANY OF, YOU KNOW AND WORK
WITH UM, I'D LIKE TO. I'D LIKE
TO JUST FOCUS CENTRALLY ON WHERE
I THINK I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
CONTRIBUTE MOST AT THE BOARD.
THESE ARE REALLY CHALLENGING
TIMES WITH SAFE DRINKING WATER,
ACCELERATED CLIMATE CHANGE
DROUGHT, THERE'S REALLY NO
SHORTAGE OF ISSUES. BUT WHERE I
THINK I'VE BEEN ABLE TO
CONTRIBUTE. MOST HAS BEEN IN MY
INTEREST IN PULLING TOGETHER.
STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE DISPARATE
VIEWS AND REALLY PRESSING ON
THEM TO SEE WHEREVER POSSIBLE
FOR US TO FIND COMMON GROUND,
AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF WHERE
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, IN
PARTICULAR AS THE AG MEMBER ON
THE BOARD PULLING TOGETHER
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE AD
COMMUNITY, THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES
THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM A LACK
OF SAFE AND AFFORDABLE AND CLEAN
DRINKING WATER. AND
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GROUPS AND
REALLY MOVING TOWARDS IMPROVED
AGRICULTURAL PRACTICES. IMPROVED
WATER QUALITY AND ACCESS TO SAFE
DRINKING WATER. I DO WANT TO
ASSURE YOU, THOUGH, WHERE WE'RE
NOT ABLE TO FIND COMMON GROUND.
I AM READY AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY
WILLING TO EXERCISE BOLD
LEADERSHIP AND GOING FORWARD TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THESE
CHALLENGING ISSUES. I JUST
REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE
TODAY. AND I THINK THE GOVERNOR
FOR APPOINTING ME TO A THIRD
TERM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR
DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. AND BECAUSE I KNOW
THE SCHEDULE OF WHEN PEOPLE NEED
TO BE HERE AND LEAVE SENATOR
KAMLAGER. I'M GOING TO START
WITH YOU. OKAY WELL, THANK YOU
SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT, AND I
JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
TAKING THE TIME. I'M UH
APOLOGETIC THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE
TO CONNECT BEFOREHAND. BUT HERE
YOU ARE. I REALLY ONLY HAVE ONE
QUESTION AND, UM IT'S STEMS FROM
AN ARTICLE THAT RECENTLY
APPEARED IN THE LOS ANGELES
TIMES ABOUT A DROUGHT OFFICIAL
WHO HAS, I GUESS EXPRESS SOME
FRUSTRATING ABOUT THE TRAJECTORY
OF, UM THE BOARD, UM, AND WOULD
LOVE TO KNOW. YOUR THOUGHTS ON
THAT IF YOU AGREE WITH THIS
PERSON'S ASSESSMENT, UM, THAT
THE WATER BOARD IS NOT ACTING
BOLDLY ENOUGH REGARDING THE
DROUGHT AND THE ISSUES THAT ARE
IN FRONT OF US. I WILL SAY THAT
THIS PARTICULAR PERSON, UM AS
REFERENCED IN THE ARTICLE, UH
PAINTS A PICTURE THAT THE
AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY IS THE
WILD WEST THAT PEOPLE ARE
GROWING WHATEVER THEY WANT,
REGARDLESS OF THE WATER INTAKE
REQUIREMENTS AND JUST WANTING TO
KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ON IF WE
SHOULD DEVELOP AN AD PLAN, UM
AND IS SHOULD BE WE BE DOING ONE
THAT PRIORITIZES FOOD THAT HAS
BENEFICIAL YET REQUIRES LOW
WATER NEEDS. I THINK SO MANY OF
US ARE ARE THINKING SO MUCH MORE
STRATEGICALLY ABOUT WATER USAGE
AND HOW THE STATE OPERATES IN
RELATIONSHIP TO WATER USAGE. SO
UM, WOULD LOVE YOUR THOUGHTS, UM
, ON THE ASSESSMENT THAT THE
BOARD IS NOT ACTING AGGRESSIVELY
ENOUGH IN THIS SPACE, UM AND
WOULD LOVE TO GET YOUR SENSE ON
. YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING IF
WE ARE DOING ENOUGH IN THE X
SPACE AS IT RELATES TO EVOLVING
INTO CROPS THAT MAY BE
BENEFICIAL TO OUR ECONOMY. UM
AND ALSO, UM, ARE JUDICIOUS IN
TERMS OF THEIR WATER INTAKE.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT
QUESTION. AND UM, I HAVING BEEN
THROUGH THIS IS THE SECOND
DROUGHT SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE
BOARD AND I THINK THAT WHAT'S
REALLY DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS
DROUGHT IS SEVERAL THINGS. FIRST
OF ALL, WE ARE RECOGNIZING THAT
CLIMATE CHANGE IS REALLY
ACCELERATED AND OF GREAT CONCERN
IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT
EVEN IF WE HAVE A DECENT
SNOWPACK THAT, DOESN'T
MATERIALIZE INTO INFLOW INTO
RIVERS AND STREAMS. BECAUSE THE
LIGHT OF THAT WATER YOU KNOW,
WITH THESE HIGHER TEMPERATURES
GET SUCKED INTO THE SOILS
DISAPPEARS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE
OR THE VEGETATION ALONG THE WAY,
ABSORBS IT. AND SO THIS IS
REALLY SERIOUS, AND I JUST WANT
TO START BY THANKING THE
LEGISLATURE FROM A DIFFER SOME
ADDITIONAL AUTHORITIES IN THE
LAST DROUGHT, THE LEGISLATURE
APPROVED AUTHORITY GIVING US THE
AUTHORITY TO ENACT WHAT'S CALLED
EMERGENCY CURTAILMENTS. AND SO
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT THERE'S
A LOT OF PAPER WATER IN THE
SYSTEM. THERE'S WATERS OVER
ALLOCATED AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH
THERE FOR YOUTH. ACTUALLY IN WET
YEARS, THERE'S ENOUGH TO GO
AROUND, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH
TO GO AROUND AND DRY YEARS AND
THOSE DRY YEARS THROUGHOUT YEARS
ARE HAPPENING MORE FREQUENTLY,
AND THEY'RE LASTING LONGER. IT'S
SUPER IMPORTANT TO HAVE SORT OF
A WATER COP ON THE STREET, AND
THAT'S US THE STATE WATER BOARD.
IN THE LAST DROUGHT. WE WERE
SOMEWHAT HAMSTRUNG BECAUSE OF
HAVING TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC
NOTICE TO EACH AND EVERY
DIVERTER AND IN THIS DROUGHT
LAST YEAR, AND THIS YEAR WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO ENACT EMERGENCY
CURTAILMENTS. WE'VE DONE THAT IN
TWO AREAS, FIRST OF ALL IN THE
BAY DELTA WATERSHED AND THE
RUSSIAN RIVER WATERSHED. WHERE
THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH WATER TO GO
AROUND. AND SO INSTEAD OF
CONTACTING EACH AND EVERY
DIVERTER, WE ADOPTED AN
EMERGENCY REGULATION AND I'M
REALLY PROUD TO SAY THAT, UM
IT'S BEING FOLLOWED FOR THE MOST
PART, AND COULD WE HAVE
IMPROVEMENTS? ABSOLUTELY AND
WHERE I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE
IMPROVEMENTS AND AGAIN THANKING
THE LEGISLATURE FOR $30 MILLION
TO IMPROVE OUR WATER RIGHTS.
DATA SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE
A MORE ROBUST SYSTEM THAT THE
PUBLIC CAN ACCESS AND THEN
PROVIDE INPUT. IN OTHER WORDS,
ON OUR MATH, YOU KNOW, ARE WE
ARE WE DOING THE MATH? RIGHT IS
ARE WE CURTAILING WHEN WE SHOULD
? ARE WE DOING IT TOO SOON OR
NOT SOON ENOUGH, SO THAT'S AN
AREA WHERE I THINK WE'VE SEEN
SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT. AND
THEN IN ANOTHER AREA WHERE I
THINK WE'VE SEEN IMPROVEMENT IS
INCREASED COLLABORATION AND
COORDINATION WITH ALL OF OUR
SISTER AGENCIES, SO THAT WOULD
BE ON PROVIDING DRINKING WATER
EMERGENCY SUPPLIES TO THOSE
WHOSE WELLS HAVE GONE DRY AND
THEN ALSO TEMPERATURE MANAGEMENT
WHERE WE SAW AGRICULTURE,
ESPECIALLY IN THE SACRAMENTO
VALLEY. WHO HAVE SENIOR WATER
RIGHTS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
ENTITLED TO 75% THEY VOLUNTARILY
TOOK A CUT TO 18% IN ORDER TO
KEEP THAT REALLY IMPORTANT WATER
IN SHASTA RESERVOIR, WHICH IS
USED AS COLD WATER FOR
THREATENING ENDANGERED SPECIES.
AND THEN ANOTHER AREA AGAIN.
POINTING BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE
IS WITH OUR SUSTAINABLE
GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT ACT. AND
THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE
BEEN SEEING IS OVER, PUMPING TO
THE POINT THAT YOU KNOW, JUST
EVEN TO THE POINT OF HAVING
SUBSIDENCE WHERE GROUNDWATER
LEVELS HAVE DROPPED, AND SO THE
LEGISLATURE IN 2014 VERY ADOPTED
THIS REQUIREMENT. IT'S SUCH THAT
FOR OUR BOARD, IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER
RESOURCES HAVE DIRECTED THESE
LOCAL BASINS TO COME UP WITH
LOCAL PLANS BECAUSE THE
LEGISLATURE RECOGNIZED THAT THE
MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO MANAGE
THESE BASINS IS AT A LOCAL
LEVEL. BUT AND NOW THESE PLANS
ARE COMING IN THE FIRST ROUND IS
IN CRITICALLY OVER DRAFTED AREAS
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER
RESOURCES IS REVIEWING THEM AND
FOR THOSE THAT DON'T PASS MUSTER
, WE WILL STEP IN AND WE HAVE
THE AUTHORITY TO MANAGE THOSE
BASINS ON A TEMPORARY BASIN AND
THEN TURN THEM BACK OVER TO THE
LOCALS. IT'S EXPECTED THAT WE'RE
GOING TO SEE ABOUT 500,000 ACRES
GO OUT OF PRODUCTION. AND SO I
THINK BETWEEN OUR CURTAILMENTS
WHERE YOU KNOW, SOME DISTRICTS
HAVE GONE DOWN TO A ZERO WATER
SUPPLY AND THEN THE SUSTAINABLE
GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT ACT WHERE
WE'RE GOING TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF FOLLOWING THINGS ARE
CHANGING IN THE AGRICULTURAL
COMMUNITY. AND AS THE AG MEMBER
ON THE BOARD. I'M JUST REALLY
PROUD OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
I'M SEEING IN THE AGRICULTURAL
SECTOR TO STEP UP AND USE AND
REUSE EVERY DROP OF WATER, AND
WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS A REDUCTION
OVERALL IN WATER USE AS
SURPRISINGLY YIELDS GO UP, AND
WE SEE THAT ALSO WITH THE
APPLICATION OF TOO MUCH
FERTILIZER. WHICH IS VERY CAN BE
VERY HARMFUL TO GROUNDWATER
SUPPLIES. AND SO WHAT?
AGRICULTURAL AGRICULTURAL
SECTORS ARE DOING IS WORKING
TOGETHER WITH THE ACADEMIC
INSTITUTIONS AND CROP FOR CROP
MANAGEMENT ADVISORS TO REALLY-UNDERSTAND JUST WHAT IS THE CROP
NEED. AND WITH THERE ACTUALLY
ARE SEEING WHEN THEY JUST GET
WITH THE CROP NEEDS IS THAT
YIELDS ACTUALLY GO UP. AND SO I
THINK THERE ARE SOME PROMISING
TIMES AHEAD. YOU KNOW ALL OF
THESE AREAS. OKAY WELL, I THANK
YOU FOR THAT. UM I JUST WANT TO,
UM, SAY THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER
OF FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT THAT, UM
, WOULD AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT
. OUR THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE
ARTICLE THAT THE STATE NEEDS TO
GET BOLDER AS IT RELATES TO. YOU
KNOW HOW WE MANAGE OUR WATER. I
ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW,
THE METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT
, I THINK HAS BEEN SHOWING SOME
PROMISE BY INVESTING IN NEW
TECHNOLOGIES AS IT RELATES TO
HOW WE MANAGED THROUGH THE
DROUGHT AND REALLY LOOK AT HOW
WE RECYCLE AND REUSE WATER. I
KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER
INNOVATIONS HAPPENING ACROSS THE
STATE. YOU KNOW, LIKE IN SAN
DIEGO? I THINK THAT TOOK SOME
STEPS PROACTIVELY TO ADDRESS ITS
WATER ISSUES. AND THE LAST THING
I JUST WANT TO SAY IS BECAUSE
SINCE YOU MENTIONED THE
AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY IS TO SAY
THAT IT EXTENDS FAR BEYOND THE
VALLEY, WE ARE SEEING A GROWING
NUMBER OF URBAN FARMS THAT ARE
POPPING UP AND IN MY DISTRICT
AND IN, UM ADJACENT DISTRICTS,
I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH A NUMBER
OF FARMERS. WHO MORE AND MORE
SPEAK ABOUT, UM, WATER RATES. UM
AND HOW WE BEGIN TO LOOK AT YOU
KNOW WHERE AG HAS TRADITIONALLY
OCCURRED IN THIS STATE AND NOW
WHERE IT IS HAPPENING? UM AND
FOLKS IN URBAN CENTERS ARE
FEELING LIKE THEY'RE BEING
PENALIZED BECAUSE WE'RE ONCE
EVERYONE CAME TO LIVE IN AN
URBAN CENTER WHERE YOU DIDN'T
HAVE FARMING. NOW, THIS IS
BEGINNING TO HAPPEN. UM, AND
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING
CHALLENGED BY A HIGHER RATES.
NOW I KNOW THIS IS NOT SOMETHING
I'M JUST SHARING THIS AS
SOMETHING THAT CAN HOPEFULLY
COME UP IN SOME OF YOUR
DISCUSSIONS. BECAUSE THESE FOLKS
ARE THINKING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL
ISSUES OR THINKING ABOUT
ECONOMIC ISSUES ARE THINKING
ABOUT CULTURAL ISSUES. UM AND
THEY'RE WORKING TO CURB
EMISSIONS. THEY'RE WORKING TO
LESSEN THE MILES TRAVELED TO
TRANSPORT THESE GOODS, AND
THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE GREATER
SAY IN WHAT'S GROWN, HOW IT'S
GROWN, WHERE IT'S TRANSPORTED,
HOW IT SOLD, HOW IT'S EATEN AND
HOW IT CONNECTS TO THEIR
HERITAGE. SO I JUST SHARE THAT
WITH YOU BECAUSE IT'S NOT
SOMETHING THAT COMES. UP OFTEN.
BUT WHEN IT DOES COME UP IN MY
DISTRICT, PEOPLE ARE TALKING
ABOUT WATER. AND SO THAT WILL BE
THAT'S IT FOR ME, BUT YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER AS IT
RELATES TO THE ARTICLE. UM WHEN
JUST KNOW THAT THERE ARE A
NUMBER OF ADVOCATES THAT AGREE
WITH WHAT WAS SAID IN THE L A
TIMES. AND COULD I JUST ADD TO
THIS IN MY FORMER SERVICE? I WAS
ON THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES
BOARD FOR 12 YEARS. AND SO, UM,
YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT CLIMATE
CHANGE AND WATER, RESILIENCE AND
YOU KNOW HOW DO THESE ALL
CONNECT, ESPECIALLY WITH REDUCED
ENERGY USE? YOU KNOW, WITH
CONSERVATION AND IMPROVED
TREATMENT METHODS WHERE WE CAN
REDUCE THE ENERGY USE. THERE IS
A DIRECT CONNECTION, BUT I THINK
IN MANY ASPECTS UM, WHAT WE'RE
DOING WITH THE WATER RESILIENCE
PORTFOLIO THAT WE HAVE IS
LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO
THE CLIMATE CRISIS TO MAKE SURE
THAT OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE THIS
DIVERSE PORTFOLIO WHERE THEY'RE
NOT RELYING ON ANYONE SOURCE.
AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT
. YOU BRING UP SOME OF THE
THINGS GOING ON WHETHER IT'S
RECYCLED WATER IN YOUR AREA. OR
MADAM CHAIR THAT THE DSL
FACILITY IN YOURS, YOU KNOW,
REALLY NEEDING TO LOOK AT AS
MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS AS
POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR
GREATER RESILIENCE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SENATOR. LET ME
SENATOR LAIRD. LET ME GO TO YOU
, AND THEN I'LL GO TO SENATOR
GROWTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MADAM CHAIR. UM HMM. YEAH A LOT
OF THINGS JUST GOT COVERED THAT
I WANT TO ASK ABOUT, BUT UMGO
DIRECTLY FOR A TOUGH ONE. THE
AUDITOR HAD A RATHER SCREAMING
HEADLINE ON THE RELEASE OF THE
KNIGHTED ON THE WATER BOARD, UH
, IN THE LAST WEEK, AND WHEN YOU
READ THE FINE PRINT IT WAS THAT
1.6 MILLION CALIFORNIANS DIDN'T
HAVE CLEAN WATER AND DUTCH,
YOU'VE MOVED 600,000 INTO CLEAN
WATER AND YOU'RE WORKING ON THE
MILLION AND I KNOW I'M WORKING
WITH THE WATER BOARD ON A BILL
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU GET MONEY
IF YOU'RE DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITY TO JOIN WITH AN
ADJOINING DISTRICT, BUT IF
YOU'RE THE ADVANTAGED DISTRICT,
YOU'RE THE ONE THAT A LOT OF
TIMES NEEDS TO RESOURCES TO TAKE
HIM IN. AND I'M TRYING TO GET A
BILL THAT ALLOWS BOTH SIDES TO
FACILITATE THAT. HMM WHAT ARE
YOU GOING TO DO TO MAKE A DENT
ON? THE MILLION THAT DON'T HAVE
CLEAN WATER. AND ARE THERE ANY
TOOLS THAT YOU NEED THAT YOU
DON'T ALREADY HAVE IN DOING
THAT? WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT,
AND I JUST WANT TO START BY
SAYING THAT THIS DOESN'T JUST GO
FOR ME, BUT I KNOW ABSOLUTELY
FOR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD.
UH, THE GOVERNOR, THE
ADMINISTRATION AND I THINK THE
ENTIRE STATE THERE. THIS IS A
TOP PRIORITY FOR US IN
CALIFORNIA AND FOR US AT THE
BOARD, THERE REALLY IS NO
GREATER PRIORITY. SO MUCH HAS
BEEN DONE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF
TIME, BUT I THINK WE APPRECIATE
THE AUDITOR'S REPORT. THIS IS A
NEW PROGRAM THE LEGISLATURE
PROVIDED. UM UH, FUNDING OR A
SPECIAL FUNDING TO ADDRESS THESE
CHALLENGES. A LOT OF THESE
SMALLER DISTRICTS DON'T HAVE THE
TECHNICAL, MANAGERIAL OR
FINANCIAL CAPACITY. TO BE ABLE
TO, EVEN IF THEY WERE ABLE TO
ACCESS A NEW TREATMENT SYSTEM.
THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY
TO MANAGE IT. AND SO WE WERE
ABLE TO FROM THE LEGISLATURE
RECEIVE TO THE SAFE DRINKING
WATER PROGRAM AND ADDITIONAL
INFUSION OF FUNDS AND IN 2019,
AND THAT PROGRAM MORPHED INTO
THE SAFE. UM AND AFFORDABLE FUND
FOR EQUITY AND RESILIENCE. AND
IN JUST A THREE YEAR PERIOD OF
TIME WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET
COMMUNITY 650,000 CALIFORNIANS
ACCESS TO SAFE DRINKING WATER
AND CONSOLIDATING SYSTEMS WE
RECEIVED AUTHORITY IN 2014 TO
UNDERGO MANDATORY
CONSOLIDATIONS. PRIOR TO THAT
LEGISLATION. WE SAW ABOUT FOUR
CONSOLIDATION A YEAR IN 2017. IT
WAS UP TO 50 THINK THE FOLLOWING
YEAR WAS AT 21 RIGHT NOW OF THE
SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO
PROVIDE SAFE AND AFFORDABLE
DRINKING WATER. 40% OF THEM ARE
UNDERGOING SERIOUS CONFERENCE
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
CONSOLIDATION. NOW COULD WE DO
MORE? UM YES, I HOPE THAT WE CAN
DO MORE, BUT I JUST NEED TO LET
YOU KNOW THAT THOSE EARLY ACCESS
SYSTEMS POUR MORE THE LOW
HANGING FRUIT AND SOME OF YOU
KNOW, THESE CAN BE VERY
COMPLICATED CHALLENGES. IF
YOU'RE A COUPLE MILES AWAY FROM
BETTER PERFORMING SYSTEM
CONSOLIDATION MAKES A LOT OF
SENSE AND YOU CAN HOPE TO GET
AFFORDABLE RATES, BUT THE
FURTHER AWAY YOU GET, YOU KNOW,
MAYBE WE CAN GET THE PIPELINE IN
THERE GET ACCESS, BUT THEN IT
COULD GENERATE CHALLENGES WITH
AFFORDABLE DRINKING WATER. SO WE
HAVE THAT BALANCE. AND NEED TO
MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE
PROVIDE FOR COMMUNITIES,
ACTUALLY A SUSTAINABLE AND WE'RE
AT A TIME WHERE, THANKFULLY,
THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY FLOWING
TO THE PROGRAM AND WHETHER IT'S
YOU KNOW, FROM THE STATE OR
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND SO WE'RE
IN YEAR THREE AND I LOOK FORWARD
. I KNOW OUR STAFF IS GOING
THROUGH THE DETAIL OF THAT
REPORT, AND WE INTEND ON
BRINGING IN OUR ADVISORY
COMMITTEE. TO LOOK AT SOME OF
THE PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND
TAKE IT TO HEART AND SEE WHERE
WE CAN GET THE MONEY OUT SOONER
AND SUSTAINABLY. AND AS PART OF
THE QUESTION, I ASKED IF THERE'S
ANY TOOLS YOU THINK YOU NEED
THAT YOU DON'T HAVE IS THERE
ANYTHING TO YOU? THAT'S IN THAT
CATEGORY. UM NO, NOT AT THIS
TIME, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE
WELL THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED MORE
STAFF WE DEFINITELY WE'VE SORT
OF OUTPACED OUR ABILITY TO KEEP
UP. A LOT OF THESE SYSTEMS
DIDN'T EVEN APPLY FOR GRANT
FUNDING IN THE PAST BECAUSE IT
WAS A LOW INTEREST LOAN AND IT
WASN'T GOING TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE TO THESE COMMUNITIES
NOW THAT THERE'S GREATER
AWARENESS IN CALIFORNIA. WE HAVE
A NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND ANNUAL
NEEDS ASSESSMENT. WE HAVE SEEN A
SEVEN FOLD INCREASE IN THE
APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMING TO
US. AND SO IT REALLY ADDITIONAL
STAFF WOULD HELP US TO BE ABLE
TO PROCESS THOSE APPLICATIONS
AND IT'S NOT JUST PROCESSING A
LOT OF TIMES WE NEED TO MEET
DIRECTLY WITH THE TECHNICAL
SERVICE PROVIDERS, THE LOCAL
COMMUNITY, MAYBE THE COMMUNITY
THAT WE WOULD CONSOLIDATE WITH
AND SO IT CAN BE VERY TIME
INTENSIVE. AND THEN MY OTHER
QUESTION HAS TO DO I KNOW THAT
IN SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT
YOU PROVIDED ONE OF THE
DISCUSSIONS WAS THE NUMBER OF
RETIREMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING
HAPPENING AND THE AGENCY AND HOW
YOU'RE TRYING TO COPE AND I KNOW
THERE'S THIS LONG TERM ISSUE IN
. I REALLY EXPERIENCED IT IN MY
FIRST RUN IN THE LEGISLATURE,
WHERE THERE WAS A QUESTION OF
ACCOUNTABILITY WHERE I WASN'T
100% SURE THE STAFF ALWAYS KNEW
THAT THERE WAS A BOARD THAT WAS
APPOINTED BY AN ELECTED
OFFICIAL. AND THAT THERE WAS A
CULTURE. SO HOW DO YOU ADDRESS
ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN THE BOARD
? AND HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT
IN TERMS OF EFFECT? THAT YOU'RE
HAVING A BUNCH OF RETIREMENTS
AND YOU'RE HAVING TO REPOPULATE
THE STAFF OF THE AGENCY. YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
YEAH WE HAVE. WE HAVE A
SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF
RETIREMENTS COMING UP, AND WE
ALREADY HAVE SEEN THAT AND WE
ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH HR TO
IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO DO
ADDITIONAL OUTREACH. I THINK
THIS FITS IN REALLY WELL WITH
OUR RACIAL EQUITY INITIATIVE.
BECAUSE IF I LOOK AT THE RACIAL
MAKEUP OF THE STAFF, WE COULD
DEFINITELY DO BETTER AND ALSO
JUST LOOKING AT SORT OF THE
GEOGRAPHIC DIVERSITY AS WELL.
I'M FROM THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY
. I ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE
COMING IN FROM, YOU KNOW, NORTH
COAST SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY
IMPERIAL PEOPLE COMING IN FROM,
YOU KNOW ALL WALKS OF LIFE,
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE. I
THINK THAT THAT HELPS US TO BE A
STRONGER ORGANIZATION AND WITH
THE RACIAL EQUITY INITIATIVE I
KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING
ADDITIONAL OUTREACH AND THEN AS
FAR AS THE ISSUE OF WHAT DO I
DO, YOU KNOW, ON SORT OF THIS
CULTURE FIRST OF ALL. WE REALLY
DO. THERE'S FIVE OF US, AND SOME
OF THESE ISSUES ARE INCREDIBLY
COMPLEX, SO WE REALLY DO NEED TO
RELY ON STAFF BUT AN AREA WHERE
I HAVE SEEN GREAT IMPROVEMENT IS
I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WHEN I AM
BRIEFED, I DON'T WANT TO JUST
KNOW WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING
. I WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY'RE NOT
RECOMMENDING ANOTHER OPTION. AND
MAYBE WHY A DIFFERENT OPTION IS
SOMETHING THAT I SHOULD STILL
NONETHELESS CONSIDER AND I THINK
WE'VE SEEN IMPROVEMENT AND, YOU
KNOW, OBJECTIVE BRIEFING
MATERIALS, AND I KNOW I LIKE TO
TAKE OPPORTUNITIES. INFORMAL
OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS LIKE
MAYBE A DIVISION AT AT AN
INFORMAL GATHERING OR A LUNCH
MEETING TO JUST LEARN MORE ABOUT
THEM AND ASK THE QUESTIONS. YOU
KNOW HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE
AT THE BOARD, AND I'M OFTEN
TIMES QUITE SURPRISED WHERE I
SEE THAT. PEOPLE HAVE ONLY BEEN
AT THE BOARD FOR A COUPLE OF
YEARS. AND SO I USED THAT AS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF TALK
ABOUT. YOU KNOW, MY VISION AND
THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING GOOD
OBJECTIVE INFORMATION FROM OUR
STAFF BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING THE
POLICY DECISIONS IN THE END.
OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU APPRECIATE
YOUR RESPONSE AND JUST BY THE
FACT THAT IT WAS A QUESTION OF
SOMETHING I KNOW THAT WE'RE
INTERESTED IN ON BOTH SIDES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
SENATOR LAIRD, SENATOR GROVE.
THANK YOU, MADAM PRO TIM LIKE TO
TAKE ONE BRIEF PERSONAL POINT OF
PRIVILEGE OF POSSIBLE. MY
INCREDIBLE PREDECESSOR, DR JEAN
FULLER JUST WALKED INTO THE ROOM
AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I
JUST. WELL THAT WAS OFF MY, BUT
LET ME SAY SO. AM I? GOOD GOOD
TO SEE YOU. AMAZING I'M SORRY,
MONSIEUR. IT'S I JUST WANTED TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE ECOGNIZED
SENATOR FULLER. NOW I'M
OFFICIALLY NERVOUS. DON'T GET
NERVOUS UP HERE. BUT NOW I'M
OFFICIALLY NERVOUS. I KNOW WE
HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. SHE IS A
FORMER EDUCATOR, AND I'M GOING
TO ENCOURAGE HER TO GRADE YOU.
TEXT HER AND TELL HER NOT TO
LISTEN TO YOU. UM THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND TIME
WITH ME THE OTHER DAY. I REALLY
DO APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THE
QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WHEN WE HAD
OUR PHONE CALL. OUR RESUME CALL.
AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I
TALKED TO YOU ABOUT AT THAT
PARTICULAR MEETING THAT WE HAD
YOU KIND OF ADDRESSED HERE TODAY
. ONE OF THE STATEMENTS THAT YOU
MADE IS THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF YOU
AND YOU HAVE TO HEAVILY RELY ON
STAFF. THERE'S A LOT OF
INDIVIDUALS AND CONSTITUENTS IN
MY DISTRICT THAT THINKS THAT THE
FIVE OF YOU RELY TOO MUCH ON
STAFF, AND THEY THINK THE STAFF
IS VERY POWERFUL AT THE
WATERBOARD AGENCY. UM AGAIN.
STAFF DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE
APPOINTMENT PROCESS OR THE
ELECTED PROCESS, AND SO, UM,
THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT. SO WHAT
ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
YOU'VE PUT IN PLACE SO THAT YOU
CAN HAVE A CHECK AND BALANCE
SYSTEM SO THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST
RELYING FULLY ON STAFF TO
PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS, MEANING
SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CENTRAL
VALLEY, YOUR CENTRAL VALLEY
RESIDENT? YOUR FAMILY WAS IN
FARMING. YOUR HUSBAND'S FAMILY
WAS IN FARMING. UM FARMING IS
VERY IMPORTANT FOR FOOD SUPPLY
AND FOOD SECURITY HERE IN THE
CENTRAL VALLEY WITH THE TOP
THREE FOOD PRODUCING COUNTIES IN
THE WORLD, AND SO I GUESS, UM MY
CONCERN IN THE CONSTITUENTS THAT
I SERVE. WHAT WHAT? WHAT ARE
YOUR CHECKS AND BALANCES? THAT
KEEP YOU FROM JUST RELYING ON
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. AND
WHAT RESEARCH DO YOU DO ON YOUR
OWN? THANK YOU FOR THAT
QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, I GET
OUT OF THAT BUILDING. I GET OUT
OF THE BIG, TALL GREEN BUILDING
AND GET OUT ON THE ROAD. AND I
LIKE TO DO THAT, NOT JUST UM, IN
AREAS OF THE STATE THAT I'M USED
TO GOING TO, BUT LEARNING MORE
ABOUT THE THROUGH OUR ROLE BEING
LIAISON TO THE NINE DIFFERENT
REGIONAL BOARDS, GETTING TO KNOW
AN AREA OF THE STATE THAT I
HAVEN'T SPENT MUCH TIME IN.
GETTING TO KNOW THOSE
STAKEHOLDERS AND TRYING TO FORGE
RELATIONSHIPS SO THAT PEOPLE ARE
THINK TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND
CALL ME AND I TAKE PRIDE IN THE
FACT THAT I HAVE NEVER REFUSED A
MEETING WITH ANY STAKEHOLDER. I
RETURN EVERY EMAIL EVERY PHONE
CALL, AND IT'S IMPORTANT. I
THINK FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO
ACCESS ALL OF US AS BOARD
MEMBERS. AND I TRY TO GET
OUTSIDE MY COMFORT ZONE SO THAT
I CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT OPPOSING
VIEWS. BUT ONE OF THE AREAS THAT
I FIND TO BE REALLY HELPFUL IS
THAT, UM AND YOU KNOW I COME
FROM THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY.
WELL I DON'T COME FROM. I'M
ORIGINALLY FROM NAPA, BUT I'VE
BEEN LIVING THERE FOR FOUR
DECADES. SOMETIMES WE ALL KIND
OF TALKED TO OURSELVES AND SAY
THE SAME THING. AND I FIND THAT
HAVING WORKED FOR THREE
DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN
THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY. I THINK
I WAS PART OF THAT, TOO. FOR A
WHILE AND SO NOW I FEEL THAT I'M
IN THE UNIQUE POSITION TO BE
ABLE TO SAY. HEY I UNDERSTAND
THE PAIN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH
WITH A ZERO WATER SUPPLY. WE
LIVED IT IN. YOU KNOW, MY
HUSBAND MADE THE TOUGH CHOICE TO
GET OUT OF FARMING. SO I
UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK I
HAVE CREDIBILITY IN THAT SECTOR
. BUT THEN I FEEL THAT I'M ALSO
ABLE TO HAVE STRATEGIC
CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY TO
SAY. YES I UNDERSTAND. THIS IS
TOUGH, BUT YOU NEED TO IMPLEMENT
THE SUSTAINABLE GROUNDWATER
MANAGEMENT ACT. YOU NEED TO TAKE
THESE REQUIREMENTS SERIOUSLY, OR
SAFE DRINKING WATER. YOU ARE
PART OF THE PROBLEM. YOU'RE NOT
THE ENTIRE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE
PART OF THE PROBLEM. YOU NEED TO
BE PART OF THE SOLUTION, AND I
THINK THAT WHEN I HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS, I'M ALWAYS
EXCITED THAT I'VE NEVER REALLY
HAD ANYONE PUSHED BACK. YOU KNOW
, I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND THESE
ARE THESE ARE CHALLENGING TIMES
FOR US, AND IT'S ONE THING TO BE
AN OPPONENT AND SAY YOU DON'T
LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, AND
QUITE ANOTHER TO BE A
COLLABORATOR AND HOW WE'RE GOING
TO MOVE FORWARD AND STILL SEE
FARMING IN CALIFORNIA AS WE SEE
SAFE DRINKING WATER AND LESS AND
LESS WATER SUPPLY AND MORE
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS, YOU KNOW,
WATER, RESILIENT DIVERSITY OF
SUPPLY. THANK YOU. AND I
APPRECIATE THAT ONE OF THE OTHER
, UH, STATEMENTS THAT YOU MADE
YOU TALKED ABOUT SUBSIDENCE IN
THE CENTRAL VALLEY. UM
SUBSIDENCE. REALLY? I DON'T
THINK EXISTED. I COULD BE WRONG.
YOU CAN CORRECT ME. YOU'RE THE
WHITE BOARD EXPERT. BUT
SUBSISTENCE REALLY WASN'T AN
ISSUE UNTIL WE WERE NOT GIVEN
SURFACE WATER. AND THEN WE
STARTED PUMPING WATER FOR
PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, AND
SIGMA WASN'T IN PLACE OR PUT IN
PLACE. TO HELP REGULATE THAT
OVER PUMPING OF WATER BASINS. UM
I, UH I GUESS I WOULDN'T MAKE
THE POINT THAT YOU KNOW THERE. I
DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK THAT
THE FARMERS WOULD BE PUMPING ALL
THAT WATER. HAD WE NOT CUT OFF
THEIR OR LIMITED THEIR SURFACE
WATER. ONE OF THE THINGS I
WANTED TO ASK YOU IS YOU BRIEFLY
MENTIONED SIGMA AND I JUST WANT
TO CLARIFY SOME STUFF ON SIGMUND
THIS, UM THE SUSTAINABLE
GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT PLANS
THAT ARE BEING SUBMITTED. THE
BASINS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
FOUND BECAUSE THERE ARE BASINS
OUT THERE. THEY'RE GONNA BE
FOUNDED. BE INADEQUATE OR OVER
DRAFTED. IS IT THE WATER BOARDS
OPINION OR THEIR, UM, LONG TERM
SOLUTION TO KEEP CONTROL OF
THAT? IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT
YOU HAVE TO TAKE OVER AS A STATE
WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD,
OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT
TO HELP MANAGE AND RETURN BACK
TO THE LOCALS, SO THEY HAVE THE
ABILITY TO CONTROL THEIR WATER
IN THEIR AREA. ABSOLUTELY THE
SECOND OPTION, BUT BEFORE WE
EVEN GET TO THE HELP MANAGE, UM,
ACTION. I THINK THAT WHEN WE
RECEIVE THESE BASINS OR THE
PLANS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
WATER RESOURCES, THERE'S BEEN
SOME PASSAGE OF TIME BETWEEN
WHEN THEY WERE SUBMITTED, AND
THEY GOT REVIEWED AND WE HAD A
MEETING ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF
AGO WHERE WE HAD THE TOP
OFFICIAL FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
WATER RESOURCES THAT SUGGESTED.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE
GOING TO GET THE GREEN OR THE
RED LIGHT OR THE YELLOW LIGHT.
JUST MOVE FORWARD, START
IMPLEMENTING AND SO IN AND I'M
IN COMMUNICATION WITH SOME OF
THOSE BASINS. WE'VE COMMUNITIES
LOCATED THE SAME THING. SO FIRST
STEP IS, I THINK WE NEED TO GET
AN UPDATE. AND BETTER ASSESS IS
THE BEST APPROACH FOR US TO STEP
IN NOW FOR, YOU KNOW, BRINGING A
MEDIATOR. UM GET JUST GET
UPDATES FROM THE BASINS BETTER
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CHALLENGES
ARE. OUR STAFF HAS BEEN VERY
BUSY LOOKING INTO AND
COORDINATING WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF WATER RESOURCES ONCE THAT
DECISION IS MADE, THOUGH, AND WE
DO DECIDE TO STEP IN OUR
INTENTION I BELIEVE ACROSS THE%
BOARD, INCLUDING WITH STAFF IS
STEP IN FOR AN A TEMPORARY BASIS
AND HELP ASSIST THE LOCALS TO
GET TO THE PLACE WHERE THEY CAN
MANAGE THEIR BASINS. WE'RE GOING
TO HAVE THE SAME TOOLBOX THAT
THE LOCALS HAVE, BUT YOU CAN BET
ON IT THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT IN
THOSE BASINS. AND SO WE'RE NOT
GOING TO BE AS CREATIVE AS THE
BASINS WOULD BE, AND SO YOU
KNOW, I'D BE CONCERNED IF I WERE
IN ONE OF THOSE BASINS THAT THE
WATER BOARD WOULD USE MAYBE THE
BLUNT INSTRUMENT THAT'S IN THE
TOOLBOX OF CUTTING OFF PUMPING
AND SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES
AND YOU KNOW THEY MAY BE IN A
BETTER POSITION TO BE ABLE TO
DEVELOP AND OF FURTHER DIVERSIFY
THEIR WATER SUPPLIES. UM SO I
THINK THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
THAT. UM BUT THIS IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT WE RELISH WHERE
IT WILL BE STEPPING IN. JUST AS
LONG AS WE NEED TO THANK YOU.
AND MY COLLEAGUE FROM THE BAY
AREA ASKED YOU ABOUT THE 26TH
AUDIT REPORT THAT CAME OUT THERE
WAS PRETTY SCATHING, UM, ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WAS ADDRESSED AS
THAT PROP. ONE WAS PASSED, AND
THERE'S A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT
DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT
THE VOTERS HAVE ALREADY APPROVED
FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND
ONE OF THE ISSUES IN THE WATER
BOARD. EXCUSE ME IN THIS STATE
AUDITORS SCATHING REPORT WAS
THAT IT HIGHLIGHTED ABOUT 370 OF
THE STATE'S WATER SYSTEMS
SERVING NEARLY A MILLION
CALIFORNIA'S, WHICH MY COLLEAGUE
BROUGHT UP, BUT THEY ALSO TALKED
ABOUT THE CURRENT FEEL THE
CURRENT SYSTEMS THAT ARE AT RISK
FOR FAILING ISTHERE A PLAN TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE
INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE? AND IF
SO, WHAT'S THAT PLAN TIMELINE OR
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING?
WELL SO ON ON THE SYSTEMS THAT
ARE AT RISK. I THINK THAT ONE OF
THE IMPORTANT IMPROVEMENTS THAT
WE'VE SEEN IS THAT WE HAVE AN
ANNUAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT. SO WE
HAVE A MUCH OR HAND IS ON THE
PULSE MUCH MORE THAN IT WAS IN
THE PAST. SO WE HAVE A BIT MUCH
BETTER SENSE OF THOSE AREAS THAT
ARE NOT BEING SERVED SAFE
DRINKING WATER. AND THOSE THAT
ARE AT RISK. AND SO WITH THE
SIGNIFICANT INFUSION OF FEDERAL
DOLLARS THAT WE'RE SEEING AS I
WAS ANTHONY ANSWERING SENATOR
LAIRD'S QUESTIONS EARLIER, I DO
EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO SEE SIGNIFICANT
PROGRESS. IT'S A TOP PRIORITY,
BUT LOOKING AT THE FUNDING
PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE, IT'S JUST
MONUMENTAL. IT'S EXCITING TO BE
IN GOVERNMENT WHEN THERE'S MONEY
FLOWING. BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST
STARTED, IT WASN'T THAT WAY. AND
SO JUST LOOKING AT BETWEEN 2014
AND 2021, WE FUNDED $11.3
BILLION IN PROJECTS. THEN JUST
LAST YEAR 3/3 BILLION DOLLARS IN
PROJECTS 1.2 WAS JUST TOO
RECYCLED WATER AND THEN SLIGHTLY
UNDER A BILLION FOR SAFE
DRINKING WATER, SO MONEY IS
FLOWING AND MONEY IS MOVING OUT
THE DOOR AND THEN AS WE GO
FORWARD WITH THIS INFUSION OF
DOLLARS, YOU KNOW FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STILL SORTING
THROUGH THE DIFFERENT POCKETS
AND ALL THAT, BUT WE EXPECT $2
BILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE
YEARS. SO, UM I LOOK FORWARD TO,
YOU KNOW THE ROLE THAT WE CAN
PLAY. I KNOW FOR PROP. ONE. YOU
KNOW WE HAVE A LIMITED ROLE
BECAUSE THAT'S THROUGH THE
CALIFORNIA WATER COMMISSION. BUT
WITH ALL THESE PROJECTS IN THESE
DIFFERENT PARTS OF MONEY, IT
COLLECTIVELY WILL HELP TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU. AND I
GUESS MY LAST QUESTION BECAUSE
YOU BROUGHT IT UP JUST NOW, AS
UM YOU KNOW, PUERTO VILLAGE JUST
NORTH OF MY DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY
EAST PORTERVILLE. THEY'VE BEEN
WITHOUT FRESH DRINKING WATER FOR
YEARS. THERE'S TEMPORARY
SOLUTIONS. I MEAN, THE STATE'S
DOING A VERY GOOD JOB ABOUT
DROPPING OFF BOTTLED WATER AND
FILLING UP THEIR BLACK TANK OUT
FRONT SO THEY CAN CARRY IT INTO
THEIR HOUSE AND DO DISHES.
EXCUSE ME OR LAUNDRY. BUT WHAT
IS THERE A LONG TERM SOLUTION?
IS THAT PART OF THIS PROCESS
WITH THOSE FEDERAL RESOURCES
THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT
THAT EVERY CALIFORNIAN
REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY LIVE,
IS GOING TO HAVE SAFE DRINKING
WATER? WELL ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S
THE GOAL. WE HAVE. THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED IN 2012 THE
HUMAN RIGHT TO WATER. AND SO HOW
DO WE MAKE IT REAL? WE MAKE IT
REAL BY THE LEGISLATURE,
PROVIDING US WITH ADDITIONAL
AUTHORITIES AND THEN FUNDING. OF
COURSE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO
MEET ALL THOSE NEEDS. BUT I
THINK AS LONG AS WE'RE ABLE TO
SHOW PROGRESS WILL CONTINUE TO
RECEIVE SUPPORT. FROM YOU ALL
AND FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
IT'S A TOP PRIORITY ALSO FOR THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW
IT'S A I THINK THAT THE
ADVOCATES HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW,
HE'S REALLY SHAME ON US FOR NOT
GETTING AHEAD OF THIS SOONER,
RIGHT? BUT THE ADVOCATES, I
THINK HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD
JOB. I'M SO PROUD TO SERVE ON
THE BOARD WITH LAUREL FIRESTONE,
WHO WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF
THE COMMUNITY WATER CENTER. I'VE
LEARNED A LOT FROM HER, BUT I'VE
ALSO LEARNED A LOT FROM JUST
GOING OUT AND VISITING PORTER
VILLE AND TO LOUISVILLE AND
SEEING JUST, UM HOW DIFFICULT IT
MUST BE, YOU KNOW TO HAVE TO
HAVE A TANK, UH OR WAITING FOR A
NEW TANK OR WAITING TO GET THE
HOLD WATER OR DURING THE DROUGHT
, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO GO AND
TAKE YOUR SHOWER IN A IN A LOCAL
TRAILER. IT'S UM UH, I THINK OF
, YOU KNOW, GROWING UP. MY
PARENTS WERE BOTH BORN AND
RAISED IN ITALY, AND MY MOM'S
JOB WAS TO WALK TO THE WELL
ABOUT HALF A MILE AWAY AND SHE
PUT THE JUG ON HER HEAD AND WALK
BACK HOME TO DELIVER THE WATER.
TO THINK THAT WE ARE IN
COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE
SUFFERING LIKE THAT, IN THIS DAY
AND AGE IS JUST UNCONSCIONABLE.
AND, UM I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE
PART OF THE TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT
ARE GRAPPLING WITH THE SOLUTIONS
AND GETTING SAFE AND AFFORDABLE
DRINKING WATER TO COMMUNITIES
AND THAT AFFORDABLE PIECE I
THINK S WHAT'S TAKING US A
LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME. BECAUSE
LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO
GET SYSTEMS OUT THERE BARE.
PROBABLY CLOSE TO YOUR DISTRICT
. UM THE COMMUNITY OF LINEAR GOT
A TREATMENT SYSTEM TO ADDRESS
ARSENIC, BUT THEY WEREN'T ABLE
TO KEEP IT MAINTAINED BECAUSE OF
NOT HAVING THE FUNDING SOURCE
AND NOT BEING ABLE TO. YOU KNOW
, UM, YOU KEEP IT AND KEEP THAT
SYSTEM RUNNING. WE DON'T WANT TO
HAVE THAT HAPPEN IN COMMUNITIES.
QUÊ I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR
CONFIRMATION. THANK YOU FOR
ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. I HAD
SOME STUFF ON VOLUNTARY
AGREEMENTS, BUT WE COVER THAT IN
OUR PRIVATE MEETING. SO I
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TODAY
. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THANK YOU,
UM. MADAM VICE CHAIR. SHOULD I
ASK IF YOU ARE READY TO GO OR DO
YOU WANT ME TO THEN? I'M I'M
HAPPY TO. I JUST WANT TO OUT OF
RESPECT FOR MY VICE CHAIR. UM
WELL, I THINK I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE COLLEAGUES ASKING
ALL THE QUESTIONS THEY'VE HIT
ALMOST EVERY TOPIC THAT I HAD
HOPED I MAY HAVE 11 LAST
QUESTION, BUT I DO HAVE TO JOIN
MY COLLEAGUE FROM BAKERSFIELD
AND RECOGNIZE OUR FORMER SENATE
COLLEAGUE. I'M JUST AMAZED TO BE
SITTING IN A ROOM WITH THREE
REPUBLICAN LEADERS THAT I WAS
ABLE TO SERVE WITH. AND UM SO I
FEEL YOU'RE JUST CAN'T OF
SENATOR GROVE. I THINK IT'S
REALLY GREAT THAT YOU TOOK THE
TIME TO RECOGNIZE AND WHO KNOWS?
MAYBE SHE'S GOING TO SPEAK
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS
ITEM. BUT I WILL SAY, BECAUSE
THE CONVERSATION THIS HAS BEEN
AN INCREDIBLE CONVERSATION. AND
YOU'VE HIT ON MANY ISSUES AND
PARTICULAR I WAS GOING TO ASK
ABOUT YOU KNOW HOW THE WORK WAS
GOING ON THE GROUNDWATER
SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WITH LOCAL
AGENCIES. BUT YOU ANSWERED THAT
, BUT I DO REMEMBER I WAS
ACTUALLY THE SPEAKER WHEN WE DID
THE GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.
IT WAS HISTORIC. AT THE TIME.
AND OF COURSE WE HAD TO
IMPLEMENTATION TOOK A WHILE
BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET THE
SUPPORT TO PASS IT WE HAD TO, UM
, YOU KNOW, GIVE ADEQUATE TIME
FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO BE
AVAILABLE OR ABLE TO MAKE THOSE
PLANS. AND OF COURSE, I SEE OUR
COLLEAGUE WHO WAS SECRETARY OF
NATURAL RESOURCES, SO THERE'S A
LOT OF LOT OF HISTORY IN THIS
ROOM AND, UM YOU KNOW, I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR OPENING COMMENTS
ABOUT, UM. YOU KNOW, JUST THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS
DROUGHT, CURRENT DROUGHT CLIMATE
CHANGE HOW THAT HAS IMPACTED AND
THE HEAT ISSUES AROUND HEAT, SO
I THINK IN TERMS OF YOUR HISTORY
AND YOUR BACKGROUND AND YOUR
EXPERIENCE, WE CLEARLY HAVE THE
BENEFIT OF THAT, AND I REALLY DO
APPRECIATE IT. I WILL SAY WHEN
WE WERE DOING THE GROUNDWATER
MANAGEMENT PLAN. WE WERE ALSO
DEALING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW WHEN
IT CAME TO LIGHT THE ISSUES IN
PORTER VILLE, I COULDN'T BELIEVE
IT. I MEAN, I GREW UP IN A HOUSE
WITH NO RUNNING WATER AND IN
VIRGINIA, WE CARRIED WATER FROM
A SPRING AND I JUST NEVER
ANTICIPATED I WOULD BE A
REPRESENTATIVE IN WHAT IS AND
DENIABLE, THE RICHEST STATE IN
THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
AND SEE THAT THERE WERE
COMMUNITIES THAT STILL STRUGGLED
, UM TO HAVE CLEAN WATER,
POTABLE WATER. AND TO YOUR POINT
, THANK YOU FOR ADDING
AFFORDABLE. UM BUT I ALSO IN
RECOGNITION OF FOR OUR FORMER
COLLEAGUE, SENATOR FULLER.
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, TOM WHEN
WE WERE PASSING THE WATER BOND,
AND I LOOK AT THIS, AND THAT WAS
$7 BILLION AND SOME SERIOUS
CHANGE. AND WHAT YOU JUST
MENTIONED WAS THE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS THAT WE IT ALMOST MAKES
THAT HARD EFFORT THAT WE HAD,
AND I REALLY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
SENATOR FULLER. SHE HELPED MAKE
THAT A REALITY WHEN WE WERE
WORKING ACROSS HOUSE AND PARTY
LAWNS TO TRY AND GET RESOURCES
THAT WERE SO CRITICAL UNDER
PROPOSITION ONE. AND SO I WANT
TO MAKE SURE SHE GETS THE FULL
D OF THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM ALL
OF THESE WERE GREAT
CONVERSATIONS EVERY TIME SOMEONE
COMES FORWARD FROM YOUR SMALL
BOARD, THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF YOU.
WE GET INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS
BECAUSE WATER IS SUCH A CRITICAL
RESOURCE FOR SO MANY AND SO MANY
STAKEHOLDERS. EVERY QUESTION AND
COMMENT WAS BROUGHT UP IN TERMS
OF A NUMBER OF ISSUES. THE LAST
ONE I WOULD ASK. HAS TO DO WITH
THE BAY DELTA PLAN. AND YOU KNOW
, I THINK THESE QUESTIONS HAVE
COME YOUR WAY MANY TIMES BECAUSE
IT'S A CHANGING AND FLUID WORLD
AS IT RELATES TO THAT PLAN, SO I
WOULD ASK FOR ANY FROM YOUR
PERSPECTIVE. ANY UPDATE ON THAT
AND THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS AS
THE BOARD WORKS TO UPDATE THAT
PLAN. AND ANY THOUGHTS YOU WANT
TO HAVE OR PUT FORWARD ON. THAT
WOULD BE MY ONLY QUESTION.
REALLY OTHER THAN TO ACKNOWLEDGE
YOUR EXPERIENCE YOUR ROLE AND TO
SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR
I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THE QUESTION
, BECAUSE AS I'M MY BRAIN IS
TICKING THROUGH IMPORTANT TOPICS
. THAT'S ONE THAT HASN'T COME UP
YET. SO UM, WE AS A BOARD ARE
REQUIRED TO UPDATE, ACCORDING TO
THE CLEAN WATER ACT WERE
REQUIRED TO UPDATE OF THE BAY
DELTA PLAN. EVERY THREE YEARS.
NORMALLY THESE BASIN PLANS WOULD
BE UPDATED BY REGIONAL BOARDS.
BUT WE STEP IN BECAUSE IT IS A
RESOURCE OF SIGNIFICANCE AND
SIGNIFICANT IMPORTANCE. TWO
THIRDS OF THE STATE RECEIVES
SOME OF THEIR WATER SUPPLY FROM
THE BAY DELTA, AND IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR THE BAY DELTA TO
BE HEALTHY AND SUSTAINABLE. UM
AND FOR US TO UPDATE THE PLAN SO
THAT WE PROTECT ALL UNDERSCORE
ALL BENEFICIAL USES AND THE
BENEFICIAL USE THAT, UM, UH
REALLY NEEDS TO BE TARGETED IN
THIS PLAN IS, HOW CAN WE PROVIDE
FOR BENEFICIAL USE IMPROVEMENTS
FOR THE FISHERIES BECAUSE THE
FISHERIES REALLY SUFFERING I
KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN READING
THROUGH THE YEARS ABOUT THE
DELTA SMELT, BUT ALSO YOU KNOW
THE VARIOUS SALMON RUNS AND OUR
BOARD'S ROLE AND THIS IS ONE OF
THE REASONS I LIKE. BEING AT THE
BOARD IS OUR JOB IS TO BALANCE
ALL BENEFICIAL USES. UM SO
AGRICULTURAL MUNICIPAL UM,
RECREATION, ETCETERA. OUR BOARD
HAS NOT UPDATED THAT PLAN IN ANY
SIGNIFICANT WAY SINCE 1995 SO
WE'RE WAY BEHIND. AND IN 2006,
THE BOARD. THIS IS BEFORE MY
TIME, THE BOARD RECEIVED AN
UPDATE AND DETERMINED THAT THERE
NEEDED TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION
ABOUT ADDITIONAL FLOWS FOR THE
FISHERY. AND SO THAT EMBARKED
THIS PROCESS THIS LENGTHY
PROCESS THAT WERE STILL UNDER
WAY, AND THAT IS HOW TO UPDATE
TO PLAN TO PROVIDE FOR THE
APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF FLOW TO
RESTORE THE NATIVE FISHERIES AND
IN 2018. OUR BOARD. I WAS
SERVING ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME
OUR BOARD ADOPTED A PLAN. UH
PHASE ONE. IT WAS CALLED BACK
THEN, AND THIS WAS FOR THE SAN
JOAQUIN, THE LOWER SAND WALKING
RIVER AND ITS TRIBUTARIES, WHICH
WOULD BE THE STANISLAS PTOLEMY
AND MERCED RIVER'S. AND WHEN OUR
BOARD ADOPTED THAT PLAN, WE
DIRECTED OUR STAFF TO WORK WITH
THE NATURAL RESOURCES AGENCY. UM
SENATOR LARRY, YOU WERE OVER
THERE, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME AND
TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE
PARTIES THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED
IN BACK THEN WHAT WAS CALLED
PHASE TWO OF THE PLAN THIS THE
SACRAMENTO RIVER AND ITS
TRIBUTARIES, THE AMERICAN, THE
YUBA, ETCETERA BECAUSE THEY HAD
EXPRESSED TO US EVEN THOUGH IT
WASN'T BEFORE US AT THE TIME
THEY HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST. AND
PUTTING TOGETHER SOMETHING MAYBE
A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE ON THE
TABLE, AND THAT WOULD BE A
PACKAGE OF FLOW, BUT NOT AS MUCH
FLOW AS WHAT OUR STAFF WOULD
OTHERWISE RECOMMEND, AND A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
RESTORATION ACTIVITIES BECAUSE
FISH NEED WATER, BUT THEY ALSO
NEED HABITAT. AND SO AT THAT
POINT, WE DIRECTED OUR STAFF TO
WORK WITH THE AGENCIES AND THE
PARTIES ON PROVIDING TECHNICAL
SUPPORT SO THAT WE COULD
CONSIDER AN ALTERNATIVE. THEY'VE
BEEN CALLED NOW. AT THIS POINT
VOLUNTARY AGREEMENTS AND, UM, IN
BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON
DROUGHT AND OTHER PRIORITIES. IT
DIDN'T IT HASN'T GONE AS QUICKLY
AS WE WOULD HAVE LIKED, BUT WE
DID RECEIVE AN UPDATE. UM, THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN HEAVILY
INVOLVED. SECRETARY BLUMENFELD
SECRETARY CROW FOOT. AND THEY'RE
AT THIS POINT IS A MEMORANDUM OF
UNDERSTANDING THAT HAS A
FRAMEWORK IN PLACE. BUT THERE
NEEDS TO BE MORE MEAT ON THE
BONES. AND SO WE ARE WAITING FOR
THAT TO COME BEFORE US. I'M NOT
ABLE TO GET INVOLVED IN THE
DETAILS BECAUSE I WOULD BE A
DECISION MAKER, BUT I'VE BEEN
KEEPING UP SORT OF WITH PROGRESS
AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE
VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
SUBCOMMITTEES THAT ARE MOVING
FORWARD ON THAT. IN THE MEANTIME
, WHAT ABOUT MY NECK OF THE
WOODS WHERE I COME FROM THE SAND
WALKING VALLEY? THEY'VE BEEN
INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT
PROCESS. UM AND THE TWO
SECRETARIES WORKED VERY CLOSELY
WITH THEM. I THINK IT IS CERTAIN
POINT THEY DETERMINED THAT IT
WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST FOR US TO
MOVE FORWARD AND IMPLEMENT THE
PLAN THAT WE ADOPTED AND WE'RE
IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT,
BUT JUST KNOW THAT THE DOOR IS
OPEN. SO WHETHER YOU KNOW
THROUGH OUR PROCESS OR THIS
OTHER PROCESS IF THE SAN JOAQUIN
PARTIES ARE INTERESTED IN
PURSUING A VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT
AND BEING PART OF THAT PLAN, WE
ARE OPEN TO HEARING MORE ABOUT
IT, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH OUR
PROCESS OR THAT, YOU KNOW, MORE
GLOBAL PROCESS THAT'S UNDERWAY.
THANK YOU. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE
ARE SOME OTHERS. WE PROBABLY
NEED TO CHECK IN ON ON THIS AND
I APPRECIATE YOUR DIRECTION ON
THAT, UM, THAT THAT IS THE ONLY
QUESTION I HAVE. I THINK WE'VE
COVERED A LOT OF GROUND. BUT
MADAM VICE CHAIR. I WILL CALL ON
YOU NOW. THANK YOU. AND I AM
SORRY I GOT TO YOU'RE A LITTLE
LATE, BUT I HAVE READ ALL THAT
WAS PRESENTED TO ME AN AMAZING
CAREER THAT YOU'VE HAD DOING
THIS, SO I AM GOING TO DEFER TO
THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN AND TALK
ABOUT HOW THEY WANT YOU TO
REMAIN AND FOR US TO CONFIRM YOU
BECAUSE I THINK THE I'M SURE ALL
THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD IN MIND
HAVE BEEN ANSWERED SINCE THE
CHAIR SAID ALL OF THE MAIN AREAS
THAT WERE CALLED OUT IN THE
REPORT YOU COVERED AND COVERED
VERY WELL. I'M SURE YOU COME
WITH VERY A NUMBER OF HIGH FIVES
FROM THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SERVE,
SO THAT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE. SO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC
SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR BEING
WILLING TO DO THIS AGAIN AND SIT
FOR ANOTHER CONFIRMATION PROCESS
. AND YOU'VE DONE A GREAT
SERVICE TO OUR STATE, AND
CERTAINLY I KNOW WITH THE
AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY NOW YOU
HAVE DONE SOME SIGNIFICANT JOB.
UM YOU'VE DEALT WITH SOME
SIGNIFICANT ISSUES FOR THEM AND
FOR OUR FARMERS, SO WE THANK YOU
FOR THAT, AND I WILL AGAIN GO
BACK TO OUR CHAIR AND LET HER
BEGIN THE PUBLIC PART OF THIS.
THANK YOU, SENATOR. MY ADVICE TO
YOUR THANK YOU AND SO LET ME GO
AHEAD AND DO THAT WE WILL GO TO
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND WE
WILL START WITH THOSE IN ROOM
2200 THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT. SO YOUR NAME YOUR
ORGANIZATION WITH, UH, OF THAT
YOU REPRESENT AND THEN VERY
BRIEF COMMENTS WOULD BE
APPRECIATED. WELCOME MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS, THE COMMITTEE LOUIS
BROWN TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA RICE COMMISSION,
CALIFORNIA CITRUS MUTUAL,
CALIFORNIA FRESH FRUIT
ASSOCIATION AND A HOST OF OTHER
AGRICULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS HERE
, A SOLIDLY IN SUPPORT OF THE
CONFIRMATION OF MISTY EDANO SAID
IT WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF HARD
WORK THAT'S BEEN ACCOMPLISHED,
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK
TO DO. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH MISS D'ADAMO AS A
BOARD MEMBER ON THE STATE WATER
RESOURCES SUPPORT TO CONTINUE
THAT HARD WORK. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WITNESS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CINDY TECH WITH
THE ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
WATER AGENCIES VERY PLEASED TO
BE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE VICE
CHAIRS, REAPPOINTMENT HER
CONFIRMATION AND I JUST WANT TO
MENTION THREE QUICK THINGS. ONE
YOU'VE ALL HEARD TODAY FROM HER
TODAY AND THEN IN YOUR PRIVATE
MEETINGS ABOUT HOW KNOWLEDGEABLE
SHE IS, AND THAT KNOWLEDGE IS
JUST SO HELPFUL TO THE BOARD AND
TO STAKEHOLDERS. I CAN
PERSONALLY ATTEST THAT SHE
PUSHES STAKEHOLDERS. SHE ASKED
THE TOUGH QUESTIONS AND WE NEED
THAT IN OUR WATER LEADERS. SO
THAT'S A GREAT ASSET. AND THEN
FINALLY, UM, AS WAS REFERENCED
BY MANY OF YOU IS THE VAST
EXPERIENCE FROM BOTH AIR
RESOURCES BOARD IN THE WATER
BOARD. THAT REGULATORY
EXPERIENCE IS A REAL ASSET. TO
THE BOARD AND TO THE STATE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
NEXT WITNESS. GOOD AFTERNOON,
JAMIE MINOR ON BEHALF OF A FEW
DIFFERENT AGENCIES, INCLUDING
EASTERN MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT
, SANTA MARGARITA WATER DISTRICT
, TURLOCK IRRIGATION DISTRICT
AND THEN THE CALIFORNIA
STORMWATER QUALITY ASSOCIATION,
ALSO IN GREAT SUPPORT OF
DIRECTOR D'ADAMO APPOINTMENT
WHEN SHE SAID SHE HAS AN OPEN
DOOR POLICY AND IS WILLING TO
MEET WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS, WE I
TRULY FEEL THAT ON ALL SIDES OF
THE ISSUE, THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE
FEEL THAT'S IMPERATIVE TO HAVING
SOUND AND, UM, OBJECTIVE POLICY
IN THIS STATE, AND OBVIOUSLY
THEY HAVE NO SHORTAGE OF
IMPORTANT ITEMS TO DISCUSS THAT
THE BOARD RIGHT NOW, SO THANK
YOU FOR THAT POLICY AND ALWAYS
BEING ABLE TO LISTEN AND LEND
YOUR EAR AND PUSH BACK ON
STAKEHOLDERS AS YOU MENTIONED IN
THE PRIOR COMMENTER AS WELL.
THANKS AGAIN AND PLEASED TO
SUPPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT WITNESS, PLEASE. MADAM
CHAIRWOMAN, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MARK SMITH ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA WATERFOWL
ASSOCIATION AND THE GRASSLAND
WATER DISTRICT. WANT TO ADD OUR
VOICES AND SUPPORT OF THE
NOMINATION? FOR DEDE TO THE
WATER BOARD. I JUST WANT TO
POINT OUT I'VE BEEN IN SO MANY
CONVERSATIONS. I CAN'T EVEN
COUNT THEM ANYMORE WITH MY
CLIENTS, AND DEEDEE AND HER
LEADERSHIP, PULLING TOGETHER
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS,
AGRICULTURAL INTERESTS URBAN
INTERESTS WIDE VARIETY OF
STAKEHOLDERS TO CONVENE POLICY
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WATER BECAUSE
WE CAN'T SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS ON
OUR OWN. AND SO WE APPRECIATE
YOUR LEADERSHIP AND BRINGING
TOGETHER THESE DISPARATE GROUPS
TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS TO
LEAD US FORWARD. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SEEING NO
ONE ELSE HERE PUBLICLY TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT. LET ME WELCOME OUR
MODERATOR AND SO THAT WE CAN GO
TO THE TELECONFERENCE AGAIN.
ASKED IF OUR TECHNICAL STAFF
WOULD PUT UP THAT TOLL FREE
NUMBER 87722681. ACCESS CODE
6014832. AND LET ME WELCOME THE
MODERATOR TO GET US TITA AND TO
HEAR FROM ANYONE TESTIFYING
REMOTELY IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH
TO SPEAK, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO THIS TIME PRESS ONE AND
ZERO. WE'RE GOING TO GO FIRST TO
LINE 14. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS
GAIL DELAHANTY WITH WESTERN
GROWERS ASSOCIATION. WE ARE
DEFINITELY CALLING IN SUPPORT OF
THE CONFIRMATION OF D, D D AS
ELMO AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME
, I'M ALSO, UM, RELAYING THE
AGRICULTURAL COUNCIL AND THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF WINE
GRAPE GROWERS SUPPORT AS WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. UM AND MR MODERATOR
AS WE GO THE NEXT PERSON I
FORGOT TO MENTION, BUT I WILL
AGAIN NAME ORGANIZATION, IF ANY,
AND YOUR POSITION ON OF SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GONNA GO TO LINE 18.
AFTERNOON MADAM APPROACH M AND
MEMBERS, JASON BRYANT WILL BE
HALF OF THEIR STATES VARY
FARMERS REPRESENTED BY WESTERN
I'D DAIRIES. PLEASED TO EXPRESS
ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORT OF THE
CONFIRMATION OF LAST YEAR
D'ADAMO TODAY TO SERVE AS A
MEMBER OF THE STATE WATER BOARD
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH NEXT WITNESS. BY 16.
PRESIDENT. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. I
CAN HEAR YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
PRESIDENT PRO TEM AND SENATORS
ERIC GORDON ON BEHALF OF
COMMUNITY WATER CENTER
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
ORGANIZATION WORKING TOWARDS
REALIZING THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF
WATER, THE CALIFORNIA CENTRAL
VALUES CODES. WE'VE SUBMITTED A
COMMENT LETTER IN SUPPORT OF
VICE CHAIRWOMAN REAPPOINTMENT.
WE REALLY SUPPORT MS ALMOST
REAPPOINTMENT, ESPECIALLY
BECAUSE THE BOARD MEMBER HAS
SERVED AS A CONVENER BETWEEN
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS.
LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND SEE WHAT IT
DIDN'T SEASON HAS HELPED
CATALYZE CRITICAL COLLABORATION
AMONGST STAKEHOLDERS. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO BOARD MEMBER THE
DOMINOES CONTINUED LEADERSHIP AT
THE STATE WATER BOARD TO
CONTINUE BRINGING STAKEHOLDERS
LIKE AGRICULTURE AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT TABLE TO HELP US FIND
SOLUTIONS FOR FORMER COMMUNITIES
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY
UNSAFE DRINKING WATER IN
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. OTHER
WITNESSES, MR MODERATOR. THERE
IS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL THAT
THEY WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WE'LL BE BACK WITH
YOU IN A FEW MOMENTS, HAVING
HEARD FROM SUPPORTERS LET ME ASK
IF THERE IS ANYONE IN ROOM 2200
, WHO WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD
AND SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. ANYONE
IN OPPOSITION. OKAY, SEEING NO
ONE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. MR
MODERATOR, I'M COMING BACK TO
YOU NOW TO TEE UP THOSE WHO MAY
WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. FOR
ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO. MADAM CHAIR. THERE IS
NO ONE WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU SO
MUCH, MR MODERATOR. APPRECIATE
YOUR ASSISTANCE, SO LET ME BRING
IT BACK TO MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A
MOTION, SENATOR RO. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. MADAM SECRETARY, WILL
YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? GROOVE
HIGH GROVE? I KAMLAGER AYE.
KAMLAGER AYE, LAIRD. I BATES I
ATKINS INSIDE. 5 TO 0.
CONGRATULATIONS WITH GREAT
APPRECIATION FOR YOUR PUBLIC
SERVICE, AND WE WILL FORWARD
THIS ON TO THE FULL SENATE FOR
CONFIRMATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. I'M
GOING TO START. I'M GOING TO GO
AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT ITEM
UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE
MEMBERS THAT NEED TO, UM HAVE
OTHER APPOINTMENTS, SO I WANNA
KEEP US GOING AND WELCOME.
JOSEPH MCALLISTER. DR MCALLISTER
. FORGIVE ME. I KNEW THAT WHO IS
A MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION, AND, UM,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND
WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.
AND GO AHEAD. IF YOU WILL, AND
INTRODUCE YOURSELF ACKNOWLEDGE
OR THANK ANYONE YOU WOULD LIKE
TO OPENING STATEMENTS AND THEN
WE'LL GO RIGHT TO COMMENTS AND
QUESTIONS FROM THE SENATORS.
IT'S GOOD TO SEEYOU BY THE WAY
TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR TIM ATKINS. I APPRECIATE IT.
INVEST YOUR BAITS SENATORS.
LARRY AND COMICAL AND GROWTH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
ATTENTION. UM THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH YOU
TODAY. I'M ACCOMPANIED BY MY
DAUGHTER, ERIN, RIGHT BEHIND ME
THERE TO MY RIGHT. UM AND WHO
WAS A ROUSING 10TH GRADER AT
DAVID SENIOR HIGH, AND I'M
GRATEFUL TO AARON AND ALSO TO
HER BROTHER, NATHAN. FOR
INSPIRING ME EVERY DAY TO SEE
THE WORLD WITH FRESH EYES AND
FULL OF CREATIVE POSSIBILITIES.
I'M JOINED ALSO BY MY CHIEF OF
STAFF BRAND EARLY AND THE
DIRECTOR OF THE ADVANCEMENT,
GOVERNMENTAL AND INTERNATIONAL
AFFAIRS AND FOR MY PARENTS, I
BELIEVE ARE LISTENING IN. SO
THANKS, MOM AND DAD. UM I HAVE
HAVE BEEN AND REMAIN DEEPLY
HUMBLED TO SERVE GOVERNOR NEWSOM
AND OUR GREAT STATE AS A
COMMISSIONER AT THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION. I'M GRATEFUL
TO THE GOVERNOR FOR HIS
CONFIDENCE IN ME. UM CALIFORNIA
, AS YOU ALL KNOW, FACES
MULTIPLE IMPERATIVES IN THE
ENERGY ARENA. TO DE CARBONIZED
OUR ENERGY SYSTEMS IN AN
EQUITABLE MANNER AND OUR ECONOMY
WILL BROADLY WHILE ENSURING
RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE ENERGY
FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS. THIS AT
THE SAME TIME, WE ARE FEELING
DAILY THE IMPACTS OF A CHANGING
CLIMATE. RELIABILITY IS TOP OF
MIND AS WE CHART OUR PATH FOR
THE FULL TRANSITION TO CLEAN
ENERGY. I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR
EFFORTS TO WORK WITH THE NEW
ADMINISTRATION TO ENABLE AND
GUIDE THIS TRANSITION. I'M
COMPLETELY COMMITTED TO SERVING
CALIFORNIA IN THE PUBLIC
INTEREST. THROUGH WISE, OUTCOME
DRIVEN ENERGY LEADERSHIP CAME TO
CALIFORNIA IN THE EARLY 19
NINETIES SORT OF SILENCE SCENE
TO GRADUATE SCHOOL. UM AND RIGHT
AFTER SERVING IN THE U. S PEACE
CORPS. CALIFORNIA EMBRACED ME
AND MY FAMILY WITH COMMUNITY AND
KINDNESS AND REMARKABLE
OPPORTUNITIES. UM IT'S A
TREMENDOUS PRIVILEGE TO LEAD THE
WORLD CLASS STAFF AT THE
COMMISSION AND TO PARTNER WITH
AMAZING COLLEAGUES AND
COUNTERPARTS AT OUR COMMISSION
AND ACROSS THE SEAS, HISTORY
AGENCIES AND WITH STAKEHOLDER
GROUPS WHO REPRESENT THE
INCREDIBLE DIVERSITY THAT I
BELIEVE IS UNIQUE TO CALIFORNIA.
AND ONE OF ITS GREATEST
STRENGTHS. THE BRAND THAT I SEEK
AS AN ENERGY COMMISSIONER IS ONE
OF ROBUST, TRANSPARENT,
RESPECTFUL AND INCLUSIVE
PROCESS. JUDICIOUS APPLICATION
OF CSX AUTHORITIES CONTINUOUS
DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMISSION'S
DEEP ANALYTICAL EXPERTISE AND
PRODUCTIVE LEVERAGE OF GRAVITAS
AS A CONVENER AND A THOUGHT
LEADER, AND IT'S ALL ABOUT
COMPETENCE AND INCLUSIVENESS.
CALIFORNIA'S LEADERSHIP IS
CRUCIAL AS WE SEEK TO AMPLIFY
OUR FORWARD MOMENTUM MOVE INTO
AN ERA OF DEEP DECARBONIZATION.
AND CONFRONT ITS SUCCESSIVE
CHALLENGES, WHICH WILL ARISE
THIS MOMENT IS ONE OF GREAT
OPPORTUNITY. WITH STATE AND
FEDERAL RESOURCES LIKELY COMING
OUR WAY TO DEDICATED TO
ACCELERATING THE CLEAN ENERGY
TRANSITION VERY FOCUSED ON
IMPLEMENTING THE GOVERNOR'S
VISION FOR THE SUCCESS OF THESE
TRANSFORMATIONAL INVESTMENTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, TO DRIVE LARGE
SCALE EQUITABLE BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION TO REALIZE THE
FULL POTENTIAL OF LOAD,
FLEXIBILITY AND DISTRIBUTED
ENERGY RESOURCES AND TO
STRENGTHEN KEY COLLABORATIONS
WITH SISTER AGENCIES IN KEY
CALIFORNIA STAKEHOLDERS AND WITH
LEADERS IN OTHER STATES
WRESTLING WITH ANALOGOUS
CHALLENGES. CALIFORNIA'S SUCCESS
IS CRITICAL, ESPECIALLY GIVEN
OUR SIZE AND DIRECTIONAL
INFLUENCE. WE CAN LITERALLY MOVE
MARKETS. TO ACHIEVE RELIABLE,
EQUITABLE, AFFORDABLE AND CLEAN
ENERGY SYSTEMS. I FEEL ACUTELY
THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR WORK. UM
WITH THAT AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU
TODAY, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR
DISCUSSION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
DOCTOR SENATOR LAIRD, WHY DON'T
YOU KICK US OFF? THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, MADAM CHAIR AND I
APOLOGIZE TO STEP OUT FOR A
MEETING IN A FEW MINUTES, BUT I
WILL RETURN TO VOTE. UM I WAS
GOING TO SAY IS AN OPENING
STATEMENT THAT YOU AND I HAD
OVERLAPPED FOR SIX YEARS AND YOU
TOOK IT UPON YOURSELF TO HAVE
REGULAR MEETINGS AND DO UPDATES
AND INVOLVED ME. IN WHAT THE
COMMISSION WAS DOING AND I
DEVELOPED THE CONFIDENCE IN YOUR
WORK AND YOUR DILIGENCE AND YOUR
SERVICE THAT'S GOING TO GIVE ME
GREAT COMFORT. TO SUPPORT YOU.
BUT THEN, AFTER ALL THAT YOU
SAID YOU'VE BEEN IN THE PEACE
CORPS AND I THOUGHT I NEVER DO
THAT. SO WHERE DID YOU SERVE?
WHEN YOU WERE IN THE PEACE CORPS
? THERE'S ALWAYS GOES OVER. WELL
I SERVED IN COSTA RICA AND THE
PEACE CORPS. IT WAS A NICE AND
NICE SITE, ONE NEUTRAL COUNTRY
AND AMERICA'S WELL. WE THOUGHT
IT WAS THAT WAS IN THE LATE 19
EIGHTIES, WHEN IT TURNED OUT
THAT THERE WAS SOME SHENANIGANS
GOING ON THERE AT THE TIME, BUT
YES, OFFICIALLY A NEUTRAL
COUNTRY. AMAZING WELL, WE'LL
TALK ABOUT THAT ANOTHER TIME.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU'RE
FLUENT IN SPANISH? SENOR OKAY,
BORN ACROSS TO AND DON'T GET
SENATOR GROWTH GOING, SHE'S VERY
PROFICIENT. GREAT THEN LET ME
ASK ONE QUESTION THAT I THINK IS
ON ALL OUR MINDS IN DIFFERENT
WAYS. AND THAT IS HIS, UH,
CLIMATE IS AT THE FOREFRONT. THE
ENERGY COMMISSION HAS A KEY
ROLE. HOW DO YOU SEE WHAT THE
ENERGY COMMISSION SHOULD BE
DOING AS PART OF THE TEAM ACROSS
STATE GOVERNMENT TO SORT OF DEAL
WITH CLIMATE ISSUES? WELL THERE
THERE, YOU KNOW, ARE INNUMERABLE
THING, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF
EFFORTS AND INITIATIVES GOING ON
TO ADDRESS THE CLIMATE, UM,
CRISIS. WE JUST HEARD SOME OF
THEM IN THE PREVIOUS, UM,
CONVERSATION ON THE WATERFRONT.
WE DO OVERLAP, ACTUALLY, WITH
THE WATER, A LITTLE WATER AREA A
LITTLE BIT, AND THAT WE DO
REGULATE SOME END USE DEVICES
FOR WATER AND WE'VE DONE A LOT
ON WATER EFFICIENCY. UM BUT I'LL
SAY JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL. UM ALL
OF THE AGENCIES HAVING GAINED
SOMEWHAT OF A HISTORICAL
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE
AGENCIES UM, COLLABORATE OR IN
IN THE PAST, OFTEN NOT
COLLABORATED. VERY WELL. I THINK
WE'RE IN A MOMENT WHERE THE
AGENCY ALIGNMENT UM AND FOCUS ON
CLIMATE AND OTHER RELATED UM,
KIND OF RELATED ISSUES THAT COME
ALONG WITH IT, AND THEN LOTS OF
DIFFERENT EQUITY ISSUES AND, YOU
KNOW, CLIMATE TOUCHES EVERYONE,
NOT JUST THE ENERGY SECTOR. IT
TOUCHES ALL SECTORS OF OUR
ECONOMY, BUT THE AGENCIES ARE
WORKING TOGETHER CLOSER THAN I
THAN I BELIEVE THEY EVER HAVE. I
THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY UM, AND
THERE'S AN AMAZING ALIGNMENT TO
NOT DUPLICATE EFFORTS TO REALLY
KEEP EACH OTHER INFORMED ABOUT
WHAT THE OTHER AGENCIES ARE
DOING AND ACTIVELY COLLABORATE
IN OUR ENERGY PLANNING, AND
THAT'S ON THE ELECTRICITY SIDE,
YOU KNOW, ELECTRICITY WILL BE
MOVING INCREASINGLY TO THE FORE
, SO ABATEMENT OF EMISSIONS AND
REDUCTION OF EMISSIONS AS WE
MOVE TOWARDS THE ZERO EMISSION
GOING 2045. WE'RE ALL VERY
FOCUSED ON THAT. UM AND TRYING
TO MOVE AWAY FROM MOLECULES THAT
ARE COMING OUT OF THE GROUND AND
AVOID PUTTING THEM INTO THE INTO
THE ATMOSPHERE. FINDING WAYS TO
DO THAT. I THINK THE
CONVERSATION AROUND THE
RELIABILITY RESERVE HAS BEEN
REALLY HELPFUL IN THAT REGARD TO
KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT
EVERYONE'S ALIGNED AND FOCUSED
ON THE SAME THINGS. UM CLIMATE
AFFECTS US IN MANY, MANY WAYS,
UM NOT JUST OUR NEED TO SORT OF
ABATE EMISSIONS OR MINIMIZE
EMISSIONS GOING FORWARD OVER THE
LONG TERM, BUT ALSO TO RUN OUR
ENERGY SYSTEMS RELIABLY TO
RESPOND TO THE CHANGING CLIMATE.
I MEAN, THE HEAT THAT WE'RE
SEEING REDUCES THE EFFICIENCY OF
OUR GENERATORS. IT MAKES US DEAR
EIGHT R TRANSMISSION LINES. IT
LIMITS THE CAPACITY OF THE
SYSTEM THAT WE DO HAVE AND SO IN
ANY NUMBER OF WAYS WE'RE
COLLABORATING ACROSS ALL OF
THESE ISSUES. AS YOU KNOW, THE
ENERGY COMMISSION DOES THE
VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF THE ENERGY
FORECAST FOR THE STATE, AND THAT
FORECAST GOES OVER TO THE GUYS.
SO FOR THEIR TRANSMISSION
PLANNING, IT GOES OVER TO THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION FOR
THEIR PROCUREMENT PLANNING, YOU
KNOW, IN IN THEIR APPROVALS OF
THE DIRECTION TO THE INVESTOR
AND UTILITIES TO PROCURE
ELECTRICITY. AND GAS AND SO THAT
ALIGNMENT OR THAT THAT PROCESS
WE'VE WORKED ON OVER THE LAST
REALLY, SINCE I'VE BEEN AT THE
COMMISSION TO IMPROVE AND TO
COLLABORATE ALONG THE WAY, SUCH
THAT THE END RESULT IS SOMETHING
THAT ALL THE AGENCIES CAN BUY
INTO. SO WE'RE OPERATING FROM
KIND OF THE SAME PLAYBOOK. THEN
THEN, THEN, MAYBE A QUICK FOLLOW
UP QUESTION AND THEN AND THAT
IS, IS THAT I KNOW ONE OF THE
BILLS IN THE SENATE CLIMATE
PACKAGE ARE BASICALLY RIGHT NOW.
THE ENERGY COMMISSION AND THE
PUC PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
CANNOT SHARE CERTAIN INFORMATION
BECAUSE IT'S CONFIDENTIAL WITH
THE INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATOR
AND IN ONE OF THE BILLS. WE
ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT
CAN CITE TRANSMISSION OR
RENEWABLES IN A QUICKER FASHION
AT A TIME THAT WE NEED TO KICK
START THAT SO. ARE THERE ANY
OTHER TOOLS THAT YOU THINK YOU
NEED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SORT
OF DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? I KNOW
THAT'S A REAL OPEN ENDED
QUESTION, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S
WHAT WE DO. I VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE THE QUESTION AS
CERTAINLY WILL CONTINUE TO THINK
ABOUT IT AFTER TODAY, AND, UH
I'M SURE THERE THERE ARE
OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN DO
BETTER. THE ENERGY COMMISSION
DOES ACTUALLY HAVE QUITE DEEP
AUTHORITY TO GATHER DATA AND YOU
KNOW WHERE THE STATE'S POLICY
AND PLANNING, ENERGY POLICY AND
PLANNING AGENCY UM AND SO WE DO
ACTUALLY HAVE FAIRLY UNCOMMONLY
DEEP AUTHORITY FOR A STATE
ENERGY OFFICE. TO KIND OF
COLLECT THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LANDSCAPE
LOOKS LIKE, UM, AND THE
FORECASTING AUTHORITY THAT WE
HAVE IS KIND OF THE SOURCE OF
MUCH OF THAT, THAT THAT
AUTHORITY AND WE HAVE SOME SOME
SO ALONG THESE LINES, WE HAVE
SOME NEW AUTHORITY TO PUSH LOAD
FLEXIBILITY, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO
TALK ABOUT, WHICH IS A KEY
RESOURCE COMING FORWARD, BUT
I'LL THINK OCCURS TO ME AT THE
MOMENT IN TERMS OF NEW AUTHORITY
. UM BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS THINGS
WE COULD DO BETTER ON THE
ENFORCEMENT SIDE, YOU KNOW,
RESOURCES. TO BUILD THE KINDS OF
TOOLS IN A IN A STATE AS LARGE
AS OURS. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
MILLIONS OF PROJECTS GOING ON AT
ANY ONE TIME AND PEOPLE'S HOMES
AND BUSINESSES AND YOU KNOW,
JUST SORT OF UNDERSTANDING HOW
THOSE PROJECTS ARE COMPLYING
WITH THE BUILDING CODE, FOR
EXAMPLE, I JUST KNOW THAT HMM.
THE COMMISSION DOES ALWAYS
EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS, APPLIANCES
, THEIR TELEVISIONS OR ANYTHING
ELSE, AND WHEN WE CAN DELIVER
THE SAME PRODUCT UM, IN A MORE
EFFICIENT WAY THAT DOESN'T
DIMINISH WHAT THE CONSUMER WANTS
IN THE PRODUCT. THAN OTHER
STATES FOLLOW US AND IT HAS A
LEAD, SO I WOULD JUST EXTEND.
THIS IS AN OPEN INVITATION
BECAUSE I'M SURE ALL OF US WOULD
LIKE TO KNOW. AS YOU MOVE
THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT
I TOLD YOU IT WASN'T GONNA ASK
ANYTHING THAT I DIDN'T ASK IN
THE MEETING, AND THEN I DIDN'T
ASK THAT. THAT'S OKAY. IF YOU
WOULD THINK ABOUT IT, AND IF
THERE ARE ANY THINGS JUST
REFLECTED TO US. I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY. AND I
THANK THE SENATE PRESIDENT FOR
ALLOWING ME TO GO FIRST. THANK
YOU, SENATOR. THANK YOU, SENATOR
LAIRD, SENATOR, BRO. THANK YOU,
MADAM PRO TIM. I APPRECIATE THAT
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR TAKING
THE TIME TO MEET WITH ME
SPECIFICALLY SINCE MY COMPUTER
CRASHED AND TECHNICAL
DIFFICULTIES AND I DID IT FOR MY
PHONE. YOU WERE TRULY GRACIOUS
AND I APPRECIATE IT. TWO THINGS
I WANT TO ANSWER FIRST. IS THAT
QUANTUM PHYSICS LABS BECAUSE
YOU'RE IN FROM TENNESSEE IS IN
CHATTANOOGA. JUST F Y I AND
THEN, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR
AH, COMMITTING TO COME TO KERN
COUNTY AND HEARING THAT WAS AN
EASY ONE. THAT WAS A MISTAKE.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COMMIT TO
LEAVE CURRENT COUNTY. THAT WAS
YOUR MISTAKE, NOT HIS TURN. IT'S
NOT MY COLLEAGUES TURN. I'M
GOING TO HAVE TO SEPARATE TWO
SENATORS POINT I CAN'T I CAN SEE
SENATOR GROVE CONTINUES. INVITED
COMMISSIONER MCALLISTER TO
CURRENT COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE
INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY THAT
WE HAVE TO HELP CONTINUE TO LET
CALIFORNIA ACHIEVE ITS GREEN
TECHNOLOGY GOALS BECAUSE WE
TRULY ARE AN ASSET, AND I THINK
BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD
THAT FIRST, THE INCREDIBLE
BIOGRAPHY THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR
EXPERIENCE THAT YOU'LL GET IT.
AND I SHARED THAT WITH YOU AND
YOUR COMMENTS. SO CONTRARY TO
WHAT? MY COLLEAGUE TO MY LEFT
YOUR RIGHT THINGS. I THINK YOU
WILL GREATLY BENEFIT FROM OUR
VISIT. RIGHT WELL, I LOOK
FORWARD TO IT. UM. SO YOU'VE
SERVED IN THIS ROLE SINCE 2012
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR YOU
CONTINUING TO SERVE IN THIS ROLE
IN THE GOVERNOR FOR MAKING THE
WISE DECISION TO APPOINT YOU TO
THIS ROLE. AH, WHAT ARE SOME OF
THE MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT
YOU FEEL THAT THE HAS HAD DURING
THAT TIME FRAME? UM WHAT ARE THE
GOALS THAT YOU SEE FOR THE
FUTURE? AND WHAT ARE YOU GONNA
HAVE TO DO TO MANAGE THAT AGAIN,
FOLLOWING UP ON MY COLLEAGUE'S
QUESTION? ARE THERE THINGS THAT
WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU GET THERE?
GREAT WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE
CONVERSATION YESTERDAY. AND FOR
THE QUESTION NOW. UM WHAT WE'VE
DONE. UM YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS IS A
LONG TIME SO RACKED UP A FAIR
AMOUNT OF, I THINK WINS AND JUST
REALLY PROGRESS ON SOME OF THESE
ISSUES. AS SENATOR, LAIRD SAID.
YOU KNOW, OUR CORE COMPETENCIES
ARE CORE AUTHORITY. I OVERSEE
OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN
BUILDINGS WORK AND MUCH OF THE
DEMAND SIDES OR THE ENERGY USE
SIDE OF THE EQUATION. AND I'M IN
THOSE AREAS WE HAVE, I THINK
LOGGED A LOT OF ADVANCES,
PARTICULARLY IN THE BUILDING
CODE. WE'VE REALLY BUILT A WORLD
LEADING BUILDING ENERGY CODE.
AND WE UPDATE THAT EVERY THREE
YEARS AND WE INVARIABLY START
OUT WITH KIND OF A, YOU KNOW,
HUGE BUCKET FULL OF POTENTIAL
THINGS WE COULD DO WITH THE
BUILDING CODE AND A FAIR AMOUNT
OF CONTROVERSY HONESTLY, OR AT
LEAST VARYING OPINIONS ABOUT
WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH THE
BUILDING CODE, AND WE END UP
WITH A PROCESS AND I ALWAYS GO
BACK TO THE PROCESS. UM, THAT'S
OUR LIFEBLOOD. AND THE
STAKEHOLDER PARTICIPATION IS OUR
LIFEBLOOD. SO WE END UP WITH, UH
, YOU KNOW, SOME CONSENSUS OR
SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO IT FROM
, YOU KNOW, ALL SIDES OF THE OF
THE OF THE CONVERSATION, SO FROM
THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS, AND YOU
KNOW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ALL THE
WAY THROUGH TO THE BUILDERS
THEMSELVES AND MANY OF THE TRADE
ALLIES AND END UP SEEING THE
WISDOM THAT'S BUILT INTO THAT
BUILDING CODE. WHEN WE GET
THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND IT
TAKES IT REALLY DOES TAKE THREE
YEARS OR EVEN MORE TO UPDATE THE
BUILDING CODE. WE'RE ALREADY
WORKING ON THE ONE THAT WILL GO
INTO EFFECT IN 2026, SO I THINK
THAT'S A BIG WIN BOTH ON THE
SUBSTANCE OF THE BUILDING CODE
UPDATES THAT WE'VE MANAGED AND
THEN ALSO IN THE PROCESS THAT
WE'VE BUILT IN THE TRUST THAT WE
BUILT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. UM
APPLIANCE EFFICIENCY STANDARDS.
WE'VE UPDATED MANY OF THOSE ON
BOTH ENERGY ON ENERGY, GAS AND
WATER. UM I WON'T LISTEN THEM,
BUT WE HAVE A VERY PRODUCTIVE
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF ENERGY. THEY DO THEY PREEMPT
US WHEN THEY HAVE A REGULATION,
AND SO WE WORK WITH THEM, AND
THEN WE DEVELOPED COMPLEMENTARY
REGULATIONS WHERE THEY DO NOT
REGULATE IT THAT D O E. UM BUT
WE ARE A KEY. I THINK
STAKEHOLDER FEDERALLY, AND
THAT'S OUR LEADERSHIP POSITION
IN OTHER STATES REALLY DO
FALLING BEHIND US TO ADOPT OUR
STANDARDS OFTEN. WE HAVE, I
THINK DEVELOPED, UH, A WORLD
CLASS AND RECOGNIZED SYSTEM TO
ADMINISTER. UM INVESTMENTS OF
PUBLIC MONEY IS WHERE THE
RATEPAYER MONEY OR GENERAL FUND
MONIES. PROP 39 THAT WAS THE BIG
GENERAL FUND. UM INITIATIVE OF A
SIX OR SO YEARS AGO. 67 YEARS
AGO, WE PUSHED OUT $1.5 BILLION
OVER THAT TIME TO SCHOOLS ACROSS
THE ACROSS THE STATE. WITH YOU
KNOW, NO HINT OF ANY SORT OF
MISAPPROPRIATION OR PROBLEMS OR
ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, RIGHT? VERY
ACCOUNTABLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY,
AND I THINK THE FACT THAT WE CAN
ADMINISTER THOSE PROGRAMS IS A
REAL STRENGTH THAT WE BRING,
ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE'RE GOING
TO SEE LARGE INFUSIONS OF
FEDERAL MONEY AND LIKELY STATE
MONEY. THAT CONVERSATION IS
STILL ONGOING AND WITH YOU AND
YOUR COLLEAGUES, BUT I THINK WE
CAN HAVE WE HAVE A HIGH DEGREE
OF CONFIDENCE THAT WE CAN HELP
MOVE MARKETS AND REALLY PUSH OUR
DECARBONIZATION ENTERPRISE
FORWARD. SO I REALLY QUALIFY
THAT AS A BIG WIN FOR US OR AN
ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT WE'VE
DEVELOPED THAT MUSCLE MEMORY TO
BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER PROGRAMS
PUSH OUT SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES
INTO THE WORLD, UM, THAT WOULD
APPLY TO OUR RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. WE PUSH OUT
OF $200 MILLION A YEAR. TO R AND
D IN THE ENERGY SECTOR AND THAT
IS HAVING A HUGE IMPACT AND
LEVERAGING FEDERAL MONIES AND
JUST HELPING OUR ECONOMY GROW.
UM THE TWO LAST THINGS I'LL SAY
IS, UM, THE AGENCY PARTNERSHIPS
. I REALLY THINK THAT'S A LOT OF
EFFORT GOES INTO AGENCY
PARTNERSHIPS. IT DOESN'T JUST
HAPPEN. YOU HAVE TO REALLY
INTENTIONALLY GET TOGETHER AND
COMMUNICATE AND OVER COMMUNICATE
, AND I THINK OUR COLLEAGUES
ACROSS THE AGENCIES AND NOT ONLY
THE ENERGY AGENCIES BUT ALSO
INCLUDING THE HOUSING AGENCIES
AND SOME OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL
. WATER UM WE'VE REALLY GOT
CLOSE RELATIONSHIPS THAT I THINK
ARE INCREASINGLY GOING TO BE
NEEDED AND PRODUCTIVE AS WE GO
FORWARD AND THEN FINALLY OUR
FOCUS ON EQUITY SP 3 50 ASKED US
TO, UH, REALLY TAKE A STEP BACK
AND CONSIDER RIGHT A STRATEGY
REPORT AROUND HOW WE CAN BETTER,
UM, FOCUS ON EQUITY AND ALL
THESE INVESTMENTS ARE
DECARBONIZATION JOURNEY AND THE
SP 3 50 REPORT IS SEVERAL YEARS
AGO NOW, BUT WE REALLY HAVE
TAKEN IT TO HEART CONSTITUTED
THE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES
ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS A BODY
THAT WE REALLY USE AND PAY
ATTENTION TO THAT HELPS ADVISE
US ON HOW WE CN, UM DEVELOPED
PROGRAMS THAT REALLY DO SERVE
THE LEAST AMONG US ACROSS THE
STATE, WHICH ARE 35% OF OUR
POPULATION. SO I THINK
STRUCTURALLY, THE ENERGY
COMMISSION IS IN A REALLY GOOD
PLACE AND ABLE TO EXECUTE AND
IMPLEMENT ON THE STATE'S GOALS.
AND IN ALL THESE WAYS, I THINK
WE'RE WE WE'VE SHOWN SUCCESSES
AND LATER. REALLY GOOD
FOUNDATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO
YOU ABOUT CURRENT COUNTY. NEW
ELECTRICAL CHARGING STATIONS FOR
SUPPLY CHAIN VEHICLES, MEANING
HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS PRAY THE ONLY
THE SECOND IN THE ENTIRE STATE.
I BELIEVE UM. CARBON CAPTURE
PROGRAMS THAT ARE WORKING ON
BEING APPROVED QUANTUM PHYSICS,
UM NEW TECHNOLOGY, OFFERING UP
1000 HOURS OF STORAGE FOR, YOU
KNOW FOR ELECTRICITY WERE RIGHT
NOW, LITHIUM AGAIN. WE LEAD THE
WAY IN THAT IN CURRENT COUNTY
LITHIUM FOR ONLY FOUR HOURS. 70%
OF STATES FOSSIL FUELS 53%
STATES RENEWABLE ENERGY. WHAT'S
SOMETHING THAT I CAN TAKE BACK
TO MY CONSTITUENTS? IN THE
CENTRAL VALLEY. UM WHO ASKED ME
LIKE, HOW IS THE CEO HELPING US
ACHIEVE THESE GOALS? SO OH,
GOODNESS. UM ALSO, I GUESS I
WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I'D SAY
CONGRATULATIONS ON JUST THE
AMAZING, YOU KNOW, FOOTPRINT IN
OUR IN OUR ENERGY ECOSYSTEM IN
THE STATE, UM AND CURRENT
COUNTY'S ROLE I THINK WILL
CHANGE. I THINK YOUR
INFRASTRUCTURE SORT OF HITS ALL
THE BASES, AND THERE'S A LOT OF
DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS THAT COULD
GO IN. UM WE DO NEED TO
TRANSITION OFF OF FOSSIL BASED
ENERGY. BUT WE ALSO NEED, UM,
THE ALTERNATIVES THAT YOU KNOW,
PARTLY ELECTRIFICATION IS A
SOLUTION. WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW,
TAKE IT AND USES USES OF ENERGY
THAT CAN BE ELECTRIFIED AND DO
THAT. OUR ELECTRIC SYSTEM WILL
BE CLEAN, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO
CLEAN UP THE OTHER PIECES OF OUR
ENERGY SYSTEM. AND IT WON'T ALL
BE ELECTRICITY. YOU KNOW, THE WE
NEED DIFFERENT KINDS OF LIQUID
FUELS, RENEWABLES BASED SOHR
POWER TO POWER TO FUELS, YOU
KNOW, POWER TO GAS AND OTHER
FUELS AND BIOFUELS. LANDFILLS
ALL OF THAT, UM WE NEED TO DO
MORE AND YOU KNOW, AT A BIGGER
SCALE TO HARVEST UM AND YOU KNOW
A LOT OF TALK THESE DAYS. A LOT
OF LOT OF ASPIRATION. I'D SAY
THESE DAYS ABOUT HYDROGEN AND
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR HYDROGEN
ACTUALLY LOOKS A LOT LIKE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OIL AND GAS.
IN FACT, THE CURRENT HYDROGEN
ECONOMY IS BASICALLY AN ADJUNCT
TO THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY. AND
SO I THINK THERE'S A THERE IS A
PATH THAT LEADS IN A GOOD
DIRECTION THAT DOES INVOLVE
THOSE STAKEHOLDERS IN AN
INTERVAL WAY. UM AND THEN JUST A
BIG SOLAR. THERE'S MORE OF THAT
COMING, AND I THINK CURRENT
COUNTY AND SOME OF YOUR
NEIGHBORING COUNTIES WILL BE
VERY IMPORTANT TO MEETING OUR
LONG TERM GOALS. THE SOLAR BUILD
OUT THAT WE KNOW NEEDS TO HAPPEN
. BASED ON THE SP 100 ANALYSIS
THAT WE'VE BEEN LEADING WITH THE
AIR RESOURCES BOARD AND THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION. THE
BUILD OUTS FOR SOLAR ARE MASSIVE
EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 20
YEARS. AND SO THAT THAT SOLAR
AND ALL SCALES, BUT THERE
DEFINITELY WILL BE SOME LARGE
SCALE SOLAR THAT'S NEEDED TO
REACH THOSE GOALS AND FULLY DE
CARBONIZED OR ELECTRIC SYSTEM.
SO I THINK ALL OF THAT IS
RELEVANT FOR CURRENT COUNTY AND
SO YOU KNOW, IN VERY MUCH LOOK
FORWARD TO KEEPING THAT
CONVERSATION VITAL WITH YOU.
THANK YOU. YOU SAID THAT WE DO
NEED TO TRANSITION FULLY OFF OF
FOSSIL BASED ENERGY. CURRENTLY
TODAY, CALIFORNIANS CONSUME 1.8
MILLION BARRELS A DAY. UM I
MEAN, REALISTICALLY, IS IT IS IT
IS IT POSSIBLE TO COMPLETELY GET
OFF OF FOSSIL FUEL ENERGY? WELL
I MEAN, I THINK SO. WE HAVE THIS
GOAL FOR 2045 TO DECARBONIZATION
TIRE ECONOMY AND THE AIR THE AIR
RESOURCES BOARD MOST RECENTLY. I
MEAN, ALL THE AGENCIES ARE
LOOKING AT THIS IN DIFFERENT
THROUGH DIFFERENT LENSES. BUT
AREA SOURCES BOARD SCOPING PLAN
. THE DRAFT IS OUT AND RECEIVING
PUBLIC COMMENT. UM THEY, YOU
KNOW, CERTAINLY THAT I THINK ALL
OF US CAN AGREE THAT LAST KIND
OF 10% 15% IS WHERE MANY OF THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGES ARE GOING TO
BE. HOW MUCH CARBON CAPTURE? ARE
WE GOING TO NEED TO REALLY GET
THERE? AND I THINK THAT YOU
KNOW, IT'S CLEAR THAT WE WILL
NEED SOME UM AND YOU KNOW THE
DETAILS WILL UNFOLD AS WE MOVE
FORWARD, BUT THE YOU KNOW,
ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE HERE. THEY
ARE COMING DOWN IN COST. YOU
KNOW, THE BATTERY SUPPLY CHAIN
IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GET A
HANDLE ON. UM AND YOU KNOW, BUT
I THINK WE'RE DOING THAT WITH
LITHIUM VALLEY AND SOME OF THE
OTHER EFFORTS IN THE STATE. SO
YOU KNOW, NOBODY KNOWS EXACTLY
THE CRYSTAL BALL IS NOT THAT
CLEAR. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF
EXACTLY THE DETAILS OF HOW WE
GET TO ZERO, BUT I THINK YOU
KNOW WE HAVE TO. FIRST OF ALL,
AND I THINK THERE WILL BE A
MAJOR ECONOMIC UPSIDE TO
DEVELOPING THE WORKFORCE AND THE
SORT OF ECONOMY THAT'S GOING TO
SUPPORT THAT TRANSITION IN THE
LONG TERM, SO I, YOU KNOW, I
DON'T REALLY WANT TO COME DOWN,
YOU KNOW TO SAY TO SAY, YOU
KNOW. NO, WE CAN'T GET OFF OF
FOSSIL FUELS. YES WE CAN. I
MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT WE MUST.
UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT.
UM UM I MEAN, ONE WAY TO DO THAT
IS TO CAPTURE THE CARBON AND
FIND SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE
CARBON. RIGHT SO, YOU KNOW, I
THINK THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD
AND ALL THE AGENCIES AGREE THAT
WILL PLAY A ROLE. SO WITH THAT
1.8 MILLION BARRELS OF OIL THAT
WE CONSUME EVERY DAY IS
CALIFORNIA'S. WE IMPORT.
TREMENDOUS I BELIEVE OVER ALMOST
OVER A THIRD OF IT IS COMING
FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES. UM
ECUADOR, FOR INSTANCE,
CALIFORNIA IS A NATION STATE AND
IT PURCHASES 52% OF ECUADORIAN
OIL THAT'S PRODUCED COMES TO
CALIFORNIA YEAR. BANKER SHOULD
FUEL SHIP. AND THE ESTIMATED 27
MILLION METRIC TONS OF CARBON
EMISSIONS TO BRING ONE SHIP HERE
AND ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS IN ECUADOR
, BULLDOZING DOWN THE RAINFOREST
, ALL THE OIL LEAKS, OIL SPILLS
INTO MAJOR RIVERS AND WATERWAYS
AND LABOR ISSUES. YOU KNOW WHERE
THEY GET PAID $48 A DAY AND I
THINK THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS IN
ECUADOR. AH I ASKED YOU THIS
QUESTION AND I WAS REALLY YOUR
ANSWER AND TREATED ME AND I
ACTUALLY CHECKED IT OUT AND YOU
WERE CORRECT AND WITH SOME OF MY
OIL GUYS THAT I REALLY, REALLY
TRUST FOR INFORMATION THAT THEY
GIVE ME BUT I ASKED YOU IF
ECUADOR WITH THIS INDIGENOUS
INDIAN LAWSUIT COMES FORTH, AND
THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY STOPS
PRODUCING OIL FOR EXPORT OUT OF
ECUADOR. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT
US? AS THE SINGLE LARGEST
PURCHASER OF ECUADORIAN OIL, AND
YOU HAD A GREAT RESPONSE. WELL I
CAN. I CAN REPEAT IT FOR YOU IF
YOU BUY. UM BUT WE HAVE. THERE
YOU GO. OKAY. EXACTLY WE YOU
KNOW WE DO. THERE IS A YOU CAN'T
REALLY SAY THIS ABOUT NATURAL
GAS AS MUCH AS WITH OIL, BUT
WITH OIL, THERE IS A TRUE GLOBAL
MARKET AND WE'RE GETTING YOU
KNOW THERE WITH WITH THE GAS, I
THINK WITH LNG AND THINGS, BUT,
UM, BUT THERE YOU KNOW, THERE IS
A TRUE GLOBAL MARKET THAT
LARGELY SETS THE PRICE. AND SO,
UM, IF ONE SOURCE GOES OFFLINE,
SO YOU KNOW, VENEZUELA GETS
BOYCOTTED, OR, YOU KNOW THERE'S
AN INVASION OF UKRAINE OR THEY,
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW
ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE
MIDDLE EAST. UM THAT IMPACTS THE
SORT OF RISK PROFILE OF THE OIL
SUPPLY AND THAT IMPACTS PRICE.
AND SO IF ECUADOR GOES OFFLINE,
THEN THERE'S A BIT OF SCARCITY.
AND THERE'S SOME RE JUGGLING AND
THE PRICE GOES UP FOR A WHILE.
AND THEN IT SORT OF EVENS OUT
OVER TIME. UM AND SO I THINK
THAT THAT HAPPENS AND WE'RE
SEEING SOME OF THAT NOW WITH
WITH THE GAS SITUATION,
CERTAINLY GLOBALLY AND ALSO OIL
BROTHERS. THAT'S PRICES ARE
COMING BACK DOWN. SO I MEAN, I
LIVED IN SOUTH AMERICA AS I TOLD
YOU FOR MANY YEARS AND HAVE
WORKED IN ECUADOR AND WORKED IN
SOME VERY REMOTE PLACES, DOING
ENERGY PROJECTS AND INCREDIBLY
SYMPATHETIC WITH THOSE ISSUES.
ABSOLUTELY I MEAN HUMAN RIGHTS
AND ALL SORTS OF TROUBLESOME
ISSUES YOU KNOW, IN IN IN MANY
COMMODITIES, NOT JUST OIL, RIGHT
? I MEAN RESOURCE COMMODITIES
TEND TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM. THANK
YOU. MY LAST QUESTION IS THAT
THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS
OBVIOUSLY, UM YOU KNOW, BEING
THE NUMBER ONE PRODUCER OF
LITHIUM IN KERN. WE'VE SINCE
LEARNED THAT ISRAEL, FRANCE AND
THE EUROPEAN UNION ARE PUTTING
LITHIUM ON THE RECORD OF BEING A
CLASS A TOXIN AND LITHIUM
BATTERIES HOLD STORAGE FOR FOUR
HOURS. I KNOW THERE ARE, UM
SEVERAL ISSUES AND I GET THAT
WE'RE MOVING AS FAST AS WE CAN
TO THE GREEN TECHNOLOGY. I DON'T
AGREE WITH IT. I DON'T THINK WE
CAN DO IT. I'M JUST LETTING YOU
KNOW. I DON'T THINK YOU'LL EVER
GET OFF FOSSIL FUELS. I THINK
YOU NEED TO FIND A WAY TO
INCORPORATE ALL OF THE ABOVE
HYDROGEN. ALL THAT STUFF IT HAS
TO DO WITH WATER, JUST
EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. BUT
WHAT THERE'S NOT A PLAN FOR INTO
LIFE SOLAR AND IN DOLLARS INTO
LIFE. LARGE SALE SCHOLARS EXCUSE
ME LARGE SCALE SOLAR PLANTS AND
LITHIUM BATTERIES. THERE'S
WAREHOUSES FULL OF THESE THIS
THESE PRODUCTS IN LOS ANGELES.
YOU'VE GOT THE EUROPEAN UNION.
YOU'VE GOT ISRAEL. WE'VE GOT
FRANCE VERY, VERY CONCERNED
ABOUT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF
HUMAN BEINGS BECAUSE OF THE
WHATEVER THE CARBON IS OR
WHATEVER IT IS INSIDE. THE
LITHIUM BATTERIES. WHAT'S OUR
PLAN FOR END OF LIFE, LARGE
SCALE SOLAR PROJECTS IN THESE
SOLAR PANELS VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. UM
THERE SO FIRST, I WOULD JUST
POINT OUT THAT YOU KNOW, ONCE
UPON A TIME WHEN I STARTED DOING
RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECTS, IT
WAS REMOTE POWER. AND WE HAD, UM
NICKEL BASED BATTERIES, WHICH
WERE MUCH MORE TOXIC THAN
ANYTHING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
LITHIUM ION, SO WE HAVE AT LEAST
MOVED TO CHEMISTRIES THAT AREN'T
AS TOXIC, SO THAT'S ONE THING TO
POINT OUT SO THERE THERE IS SOME
EFFORT. THERE IS SOME ACTIVITY
IN THE STATE MORE ON THE
BATTERIES. THERE WAS A BILL IN
2018 A DOLLY BILL 28 32. I THINK
IT WAS, UM THAT CONVENED AN
ADVISORY GROUP ON END OF LIFE.
UM A RECYCLING OF E V BATTERY,
LITHIUM ION CAR BATTERIES. AND
SO THAT REPORT OVERSEEN BY KELLY
P. A. BUT WITH CALORIE CYCLE AND
TOXIC SUBSTANCES CONTROL AND THE
CULVERT THINK THE AIR RESOURCES
BOARD ONE OF THE AGENCY, THEY
PRODUCED THAT REPORT AND CAME UP
WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF
RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE PATH
FORWARD AND PRIORITIZES
RECOMMENDATIONS. FOR DEALING
WITH THE END OF LIFE ISSUES OF
FOR EVIE BATTERIES, SO I THINK
THAT WAS A BIG STEP FORWARD AND
IMPLEMENTING THAT THAT REPORT
JUST CAME OUT IN MARCH. UM IS I
THINK THAT PROVIDES SOME
FRAMEWORK FOR MOVING FORWARD AND
LITHIUM IS EMINENTLY RECYCLABLE
. THOSE BATTERIES ARE RECYCLABLE
, AND ONE EXAMPLE ACTUALLY, OF
HOW THIS CAN BE DONE IS WITH
GLAD ACID BATTERIES FROM CARS.
VIRTUALLY EVERY AUTO BATTERY
TODAY IS RECYCLED. AND THERE'S A
WHOLE SYSTEM. YOU PAY A BUCK OR
TWO WHEN YOU BUY THE BATTERY AND
ENDS UP PAYING FOR THE RECYCLING
AT THE END OF LIFE AND LEAD AS
YOU KNOW AS MUCH MORE TOXIC THAN
THE LITHIUM, AND SO THE VOLUMES
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, MUCH
LARGER, BUT BUT IT IS IT CAN BE
DONE AND HAS BEEN DONE. IT CAN
BE DONE ON THE PV, UM, SIDE OF
IT. UM, THERE THERE IS SOME
INTERAGENCY ACTIVITY AND THERE
HAS BEEN, UM SOME MEMORANDUM
UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE
ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AGENCIES I
LISTED BEFORE ON THE TV SIDE. UM%
AND THAT IS MOVING A LITTLE BIT
SLOWLY, BUT, UM, BUT YOU KNOW,
THERE IS AN AWARENESS OF THE END
OF LIFE ISSUES AROUND THE SOLAR
MODULES. THEY HAVE QUITE A LONG
LIFE LONGER THAN BATTERIES. SO
YOU KNOW THAT THAT THAT LARGE
END OF LIFE KIND OF RETIREMENT
OF SOLAR MODULES HASN'T HASN'T
REALLY STARTED UP YET, BUT IT
BUT IT WILL AND THE AGENCIES ARE
CERTAINLY AWARE OF THAT AND HAVE
A FRAMEWORK TO WORK TOGETHER ON
IT. WELL AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR
SPENDING TIME WITH ME. YOU ARE
VERY WELL QUALIFIED FOR THIS
POSITION. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU
WOULD EVEN WANT TO TAKE IT ON
AND I DON'T. I WRECKED MY BRAIN
OVER THAT NIGHT THAT WELL, HE
JUST HE'S A GLUTTON FOR
PUNISHMENT. AND SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR SPENDING TIME WITH
THE THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY
QUESTIONS TODAY AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO OUR VISIT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH, SENATOR AS I DO. I
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM VICE
CHAIR. YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. DOCTOR
MCALLISTER FOR YOUR. WHAT'S
DEVELOPING, PROBABLY US. SUPER
CAREER PATH IS SITTING ON OUR ON
COMMISSION. AS WE LOOK FORWARD
TO, YOU KNOW, REINING IN ALL OF
THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE AND ENERGY
GENERATION. UM I HAVEN'T BEEN
INVITED TO CURRENT COUNTY, SO I
MIGHT WANT TO GO ALONG WITH YOU
. WE CAN CARPOOL THAT WOULD BE
GREAT SIDE OF THINGS THAT I'M
KIND OF NEW TO THE TO THIS
POLICY ISSUE HAVE NOT SERVED ON
OUR ENERGY POLICY COMMITTEES.
AND CERTAINLY IT'S A HUGE
LEARNING EXPERIENCE. AND YOU ARE
CERTAINLY ONE OF THE GREAT
TEACHERS OF YOU KNOW WHERE WE'VE
BEEN AND WHERE WE WANT TO GET.
I'M TURNING OUT THIS YEAR. SO
I'VE BEEN HERE EIGHT YEARS AND I
WILL SHARE WITH YOU. I HAVE I
DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE
THAT WE'RE GETTING WHERE WE NEED
TO GET PROMISED THAT WE'RE GOING
TO HAVE GRID RELIABILITY THAT
STARTED, I THINK WAS I WAS HERE
WITH SENATOR DAY, LEON. WHEN SB
100 WAS PASSED, WE'RE GOING TO
GOING TO GET THERE BY 20 4500%
RPS PORTFOLIO. NOW WE CHANGE
THAT TO 2030. WE GOTTA BE THERE
BY 60. I DON'T THINK WE'RE CLOSE
AT SEVEN YEARS AWAY. THAT'S JUST
ANOTHER TERM OF A SENATOR. SO I
GUESS MY QUESTION AFTER THAT
PREAMBLE IS WHAT HAPPENED IN
TEXAS. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S
VERY, VERY DISTURBING. TO THE
CONSTITUENCY I REPRESENT, AND
PROBABLY OUR STATE BECAUSE TEXAS
WAS THE LEADER, RIGHT AND
CALIFORNIA RIGHT BEHIND, BUT
THEY WERE THE CUTTING EDGE AND
IT JUST DIDN'T WORK WHEN THEY
HIT THIS TERRIBLE HEAT WAVE AND
WHATEVER HAS CAUSED THAT CLIMATE
CHANGE, ETCETERA, SO I JUST LIKE
TO RATHER THAN A SPECIFIC
QUESTION, HELP US UNDERSTAND AND
MAYBE BUILD MORE CONFIDENCE IN
WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING TO TAKE
THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE
THAT HAPPENED THERE. SO WE HAVE
AN EXAMPLE. WHAT ARE WE LEARNING
FROM THAT SO THAT THERE'S 2030
DATE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO
IN THE 2045. WE UNDERSTAND THAT
AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE'RE NOT
GOING TO HAVE AN ENTIRE STATE
BLACKOUT FOR A YEAR LESS THE SUN
SHINING KIND OF LIKE BEING IN
ALASKA. SO ANYWAY, JUST HELPED
ME WITH THAT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE
THE QUESTIONS THAT I GET, AND OF
COURSE THAT REVOLVES AROUND OF
FOSSIL FUEL ABSOLUTELY NEED IT
AS PART OF THE PORTFOLIO. DON'T
WE NEED IT AS ONE OF THE LEGS ON
THE BENCH AND ALL OF THOSE
QUESTIONS? SO HOW ABOUT IT AND
HELP ME UNDERSTAND AND EDUCATE
ME A LITTLE MORE SO I CAN BE A
BETTER MESSENGER. OKAY WELL,
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, AND
I WOULD POINT OUT SO I'M
OPTIMISTIC IN THIS REALM. YOU
PROBABLY TUNED INTO THAT.
WEDNESDAY ON HERE IF YOU WERE
EXACTLY AND I THINK WE HAVE A
LOT OF A LOT OF TOOLS IN OUR
TOOLBOX, WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT
TECHNOLOGIES THAT TODAY CAN GET
US MOST OF THE WAY THERE. UM AND
WE ARE IN THIS DIFFICULT
TRANSITION PERIOD OF 3 TO 55 OR
SO YEARS I'D SAY WHERE WE KIND
OF NEED ALL THE ABOVE WHERE WE
NEED THE RESOURCES THAT WE'VE
HAD TO STAY ONLINE A LITTLE BIT
LONGER, SO THAT WE CAN GET OVER
THIS BUILD OUT THIS MASSIVE
SCALE UP OF THE RESOURCES THAT
WE WILL RELY ON FOR THE LONG
TERM. AND THEN SORT OF HAND THE
BATON OFF, BUT WE CANNOT
SACRIFICE RELIABILITY AS WE DO
THAT WE HAVE A BUNCH OF TOOLS.
UM THAT THE AGENCIES, YOU KNOW,
I MENTIONED THE FORECAST THAT WE
DO THAT THE INTEGRATED RESOURCE
PLANS THAT THE EACH OF THE
INVESTOR IN UTILITIES AND THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES DO, AND THOSE
ARE OVERSEEN AT THE PUC FOR THE
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES. UM WE
HAVE THE RESOURCE ADEQUACY
FRAMEWORK AS WELL. WHERE THE
UTILITIES GO OUT AND MAKE SURE
THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES
CONTRACT ID FOR THOSE MOMENTS OF
CRITICAL PEAKS IN THE SYSTEM. UM
SO, UH, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE
THE TOOLS TO ANTICIPATE
RELIABILITY PROBLEMS AND TO DEAL
WITH THEM WHEN THEY DO OCCUR.
CLIMATE CHANGE IS COMING FASTER
THAN WE HAD THOUGHT. HONESTLY I
MEAN, IT REALLY IS ACCELERATING
AND THE HEAT THOSE THOSE
AFTERNOON EVENING PEAKS ARE
MOVING BACKWARDS AS THE SUN GOES
DOWN THERE, MOVING LATER. IN THE
EVENING, AND THEY'RE GETTING
HIGHER AS THE HEAT DOESN'T ABATE
LIKE IT USED TO. WE ALSO HAVE
HAVE CHALLENGES LIST. ANOTHER
CHALLENGE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW
MORE OFTEN THAN BEFORE. NOT ONLY
ARE THEY HOTTER, BUT THEY'RE
ALSO MORE LIKELY TO BE WEST
WIDE. UM AH, HEAT WAVES, WHICH
MEANS THAT IMPORTS INTO
CALIFORNIA AREN'T AS RELIABLE AS
THEY ONCE WERE. SO SO IN THIS
FIVE YEAR HORIZON, WE REALLY
HAVE TO TAKE THOSE CHALLENGES
SERIOUSLY AND, YOU KNOW, KEEP AS
MANY RESOURCES ON AS WE CAN AND
BRING ON NEW RESOURCES AS
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. BUT THE
HAVING SAID ALL THAT YOU KNOW
THE CHI. SO THE OPERATOR OF THE
OF THE BULK ENERGY TRANSMISSION
GRADE IN CALIFORNIA, MOST OF IT
HAS HAS HIT 100% RENEWABLES FOR
A FEW HOURS HERE AND THERE.
THEY'VE ALREADY HIT THAT. YOU
KNOW, IN MOMENTS, IT TENDS TO BE
THE SPRING AND THE FALL WHEN
THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH LOAD AND
SORT OF OPTIMAL CONDITIONS, BUT
THEY CAN OPERATE THE SYSTEM WHEN
IT'S 100% RENEWABLE WERE
INCREASINGLY PUTTING STORAGE AND
MORE DIVERSE. UH PORTFOLIO OF
STORAGE ON THE GRID. SO IT'S NOT
ALL JUST ABOUT LITHIUM ION
BATTERIES. IT'S ALSO ABOUT
DIFFERENT KINDS OF CHEMICAL
STORAGE AND PHYSICAL STORAGE.
AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE
OF PUMPED HYDRO PLANTS THAT ARE
QUITE EXPENSIVE. IT'S HARD TO
BUILD MORE, BUT THAT'S ON THE
TABLE. AND SO YOU KNOW DIFFERENT
KINDS OF MECHANICAL STORAGE
UNDERGROUND COMPRESSED AIR
STORAGE. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT
KINDS OF STORAGE COMING. WE'RE
INVESTING A LOT IN R AND D AND
COMMERCIALIZATION AND SORT OF
PROVING OUT MANY OF THOSE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT THE ENERGY
COMMISSION THE LONG DURATION,
ENERGY STORAGE. UM UM, PIECE OF
THE BUDGET THAT THE SORT OF
BUDGET PART ONE THAT PASSED SOME
WEEKS AGO. I THINK IT'S REALLY
CRITICAL BECAUSE WE DO NEED LONG
DURATION STORAGE, NOT JUST SORT
OF INTER DAY STORAGE, BUT WE
NEED INTRODUCE STORAGE. THE
REVERSE. ACTUALLY, WE HAVE
INTRADAY STORES. WE NEED
INTEREST IN TODAY'S STORY. UM
BUT THE SEASONAL MISMATCH OF
SOLAR WITH SOME OF THE LOADS
AROUND THE STATE, SO THERE ARE
SOME SOME SOME CHALLENGING
ISSUES. BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE
THE AGENCY. SORT OF, UM TEAM ON
IT AND A BIG AH, YOU KNOW, HIGH
LEVEL OF AWARENESS OF THE OF
WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE, AND I
THINK A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO
SOLVE THEM GOING FORWARD. SO THE
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WILL PRETTY
CONFIDENT WE WILL HIT THE 60% BY
2030 WERE ACTUALLY REASONABLY
CLOSE TO THAT IN TERMS OF IF YOU
SAY CARBON FREE RESOURCES. NOT
ALL CARBON FREE RESOURCES
QUALIFIED FOR RPS, BUT IN TERMS
OF CARBON FREE, WHERE ALREADY
PRETTY CLOSE TO 60% COMMENT THAT
WE ARE NOW THEY WERE NOW ABLE TO
POWER WITH 100% RENEWABLES. LOOK
AT TIMES, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T
HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE. LET'S
JUST TALK ABOUT THE ELECTRIC
CARS THAT HAVE TO HAVE CHARGING
STATIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL
OF THAT OPERATIVE NOW. THAT'S
RIGHT. SO IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU'RE
ABLE TO DO YOU KNOW, COUPLE OF
TIMES THAT THAT DOESN'T EVEN GET
US CLOSE TO 2030 WHEN YOU WHEN
EVERYONE SUPPOSEDLY HAVE WHAT
ARE WE AT 50% OF THE PEOPLE WITH
ELECTRIC CARS, ELECTRIC CHARGING
STATION? THE ONLY REASON I BRING
THIS UP, I TRAVEL BY DISTRICT
TRAVERSE IS CAMP PENDLETON, AND
IT IS THE BIGGEST CONGESTION
ERIC CONGESTED AREA DURING
SUMMER. TOURIST SEASON AND I
KNOW TE PROTEIN WILL AGREE.
BECAUSE GOING EITHER WAY NORTH
OR SOUTH. YOU GOT TO FIGURE THE
TIME LEAVE AT FIVE A.M. THIS
MORNING WHEN I WAS APPOINTED
WHEN I WAS FIRST WHEN I WAS
FIRST APPOINTED TO THE ENERGY
COMMISSION ACTUALLY LIVED IN SAN
DIEGO. SO I'VE DONE THAT DRIVE
MANY TIMES LAST SATURDAY,
THINKING OH, MY GOSH. YOU KNOW,
IF I WAS IN AN ELECTRIC CAR, I
JUST WANT TO TURN IT OFF RIGHT
NOW BECAUSE I'M SITTING HERE FOR
ANOTHER 20 MINUTES WITH NO
MOVEMENT. SO THOSE ARE THE
THINGS WE SEE. AND I THINK
HEARING THAT THERE'S AN ANSWER
TO THAT. AND THERE'S A SOLUTION
FOR THAT. AND IT'S COMING IN THE
SAME ON THE SAME DELIVERY PATH
AS WE ARE WITH THIS HAVING TO BE
OUT OF OUR FOSSIL FUEL CARS,
ETCETERA, ETCETERA HAVING TO RUN
ALL OF OUR APPLIANCES ON
ELECTRICITY IN OUR HOMES. I'M OF
THE GENERATION WHERE THE ALL
ELECTRIC KITCHEN WAS A BIG DEAL.
I THINK I'M THINKING BACK IN THE
FIFTIES, WHEN MY MOM WAS GETTING
A NEW KITCHEN, AND MY DAD SAID
NO. IT COSTS TOO MUCH MONEY, SO
THEY HAD GAS, ESPECIALLY GUESTS.
UH STOVES. SO NOW WE'RE SUPPOSED
TO GO TO ELECTRIC AND ALL OF
THAT, IN FACT, SOME CITIES HAVE
ARE BANNING ANY NEW APPLIANCES
THAT AREN'T ALL ELECTRIC. SO
WHEN OUR GUEST STUFF RUNS OUT,
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU
KNOW, BEYOND GO BY AND ALL NEW
ELECTRIC COMPLIANCE OR I DON'T
KNOW WHAT THE PHASE IN PHASE OUT
WILL BE. BUT THOSE ARE THE
THINGS THAT EVERY DAY,
CALIFORNIA IN EVERY LITTLE HOME
AND EVERY LITTLE CITY AND
COMMUNITY PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO
BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. SO
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ON
YOUR SHOULDERS, SO THANK YOU FOR
TAKING THEM UP FOR 10 YEARS. YOU
KNOW IF YOU HOPE YOU CAN HANG IN
THERE FOR ANOTHER FIVE OR 10,
BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE THE
GLASSHOUSE FULL AND THEN IT CAN
BE DONE, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL
WE NEED TO HEAR. AND WE NEED TO
HAVE REGULAR UPDATES SO THAT WE
CAN SHARE THAT. CERTAINLY
PERSONALLY AND WITH OUR FAMILIES
AND OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE THE
QUESTIONS COME TO US, AND IT'S
PRETTY HARD TO GIVE. YOU KNOW
WHAT I CONSIDER VERY
BUREAUCRATIC ANSWERS THAT COME
OUT OF OUR AGENCIES. THAT'S JUST
THE WAY IT IS. I USED TO BE, YOU
KNOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT WAS
A BUREAUCRAT IN THE SOCIAL
SERVICE. DEPARTMENT FOR MANY
YEARS, AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT
WHEN PEOPLE WERE VERY DIFFICULT
SITUATIONS AND FREE TO LOOK AT
MY BOOK AND SAY, OKAY, YOU
QUALIFY FOR THIS. SORRY WE DON'T
HAVE IT TODAY, AND HERE'S A
REFERRAL TO ANOTHER AGENCY THAT
HAS REALLY PROBABLY DRIVEN ME IN
MY SERVICE ON THIS SIDE OF
POLICY MAKER TO MAKE SURE THAT
THOSE THINGS REALLY ADDRESS THE
PROBLEMS THAT CONFRONT OUR
PEOPLE AT EVERY LEVEL OF
SOCIETY. I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY
WEALTHY PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO
WHEN THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY LEFT
. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE A
BILLIONAIRE, OR YOU'RE IN
POVERTY, YOU AREN'T GOING TO BE
ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TURN YOUR
LIGHTS ON YOUR TV OR WHATEVER.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT
WEIGH ON US AND I FEEL THAT YOU
ARE REALLY DEDICATED TO SOLUTION
AND ANSWER. SO YOU DO HAVE MY
STRONG SUPPORT. AND I WOULD ASK
THAT YOU KEEP OUR OUR
LEGISLATORS INFORMED. IF YOU
NEED SOMETHING FROM US IN TERMS
OF COMMUNICATION RESOURCES,
WHATEVER. I THINK IT'S VITAL
BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE
TRANSITION FROM THE WAY THE GOOD
OLD DAYS TO WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE
THE GOOD NEW DAYS. BUT THANK YOU
FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND YOU WILL
HAVE MY SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. AND YOU KNOW THOSE ISSUES
WEIGH ON ME AS WELL. I'LL JUST,
YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT'S CLEAR
AND, UM THE EQUITY, UM, SORT OF
PERSPECTIVE IS ONE THAT WE, YOU
KNOW, I MENTIONED THE SORT OF
THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN
THAT REALM. BUT EVERY PROGRAM
THAT WERE THAT WERE DEVELOPING
AND IMPLEMENTING. WE ARE LOOKING
AT IT THROUGH A LENS OF THAT YOU
JUST DESCRIBED AND UM THERE ARE
A LOT OF BENEFITS ACTUALLY, IN
TERMS, YOU KNOW, AVOIDING
COMBINED INDOOR COMBUSTION,
PARTICULARLY AIR QUALITY AND
PUBLIC HEALTH. UM AND BUT THE
ISSUES THAT ARE REALLY RELATED
TO HOUSING AND PARTICULARLY SORT
OF LOW INCOME HOUSING AND THE
SORT OF, UM. FRONTLINE EQUITY
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE,
AND, YOU KNOW DIFFERENT FORMS.
UM THEY MANY OF THEM WILL NOT
HAVE THAT SORT OF RESOURCES TO
UPGRADE THEIR HOMES, THEIR
RENTERS, AND SO I THINK WE WERE
WORKING WITH THE OTHER AGENCIES
TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CHANNEL
RESOURCES TO THOSE PROGRAMS. YOU
KNOW AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND
SCALE UP THESE MARKETS, GET THE
COST DOWN AND REALLY MAKE THOSE
REAL SOLUTIONS. UM, AND BUT THEY
NEED TO BE SOLUTIONS THAT YOU
KNOW. DON'T UM PUT ANYBODY
UNDERWATER IN TERMS OF ENERGY
COSTS. AND THEN ALSO, UM YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE I MEAN, YOU
KNOW, WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY AT
THE END OF THE DAY, AND PEOPLE
ARE GOING TO ADOPT THESE
TECHNOLOGIES IF THEY SERVE THEM
WELL, AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE
SURE THAT THAT THAT THAT IS THE
CASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MADAM. VICE CHAIR,
SENATOR KAMLAGER. THANK YOU. UM,
AND YOU ACTUALLY TOUCHED UPON
THE QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO
ASK YOU SO I WILL ASK IT, BUT I
WILL ASK ANOTHER ONE THAT POPPED
INTO MY HEAD AS A RESULT OF, UM
UM WHAT? MY COLLEAGUE ON MY LEFT
WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS
THE PHASING OUT OF GAS
APPLIANCES AND THE MOVEMENT. TWO
ELECTRIC APPLIANCES AND SOMEONE
WHO BAKES AND LIVES WITH SOMEONE
WHO GRILLS. WE CONTINUE TO HAVE
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT MAKES, UM
MORE SENSE. AND, YOU KNOW,
RECENTLY, THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN
ARTICLE IN THE PAPER THAT TALKED
ABOUT, UM KOREAN BARBECUE
RESTAURANTS UP IN ARMS BECAUSE
WITH THIS BE THE DEMISE OF
KOREAN BARBECUE. SO NOT TO BE IN
JEST, BUT WOULD LOVE YOUR
THOUGHTS ON THOSE VERY REAL AND
PRACTICAL ISSUES. YOU KNOW,
PEOPLE WANT TO DO RIGHT BY
MOTHER EARTH AND PEOPLE WANT TO,
UM DO WHAT THEY CAN AND SMALL
AND LARGE WAYS. TO PROTECT THE
ENVIRONMENT. AND PEOPLE ALSO
STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO BAKE IN
A WAY THAT THEY KNOW UM YOU KNOW
, THAT WILL GIVE THEM THE BEST
POUND CAKE, YOU KNOW THAT THEY
CAN HAVE THAT WILL MAKE THEIR
MOTHER PROUD, AND PEOPLE STILL
WANT TO GO OUT AND GRILL AND
THEY WANT TO GO TO A RESTAURANT
AND GET, UM THEY'RE KOREAN
BARBECUE. SO I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU
SAY TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO
RIGHT BY THE ENVIRONMENT AND
STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY
THOSE THINGS? SO IT'S A GREAT
QUESTION. IT'S VERY TOP OF MIND
IN OUR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW
WE'RE GOING TO BE CARBONIZED OR
BUILDINGS AND TO THE TO THE, UM,
YOU KNOW, ISSUE OF LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS SORT OF BEING AT THE
VANGUARD OF THIS, YOU KNOW, CITY
OF BERKELEY, UM, HAS HAS
PROPOSED BAND GAS AND YOU
CONSTRUCTION AND, UM IS BEING
CHALLENGED BY THE RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION. AND SO THERE'S A
YOU KNOW AN ACTUAL UM, YOU KNOW,
FIGHT ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW IN
TERMS OF SO, SO THAT WILL
INDICATE KIND OF SOME OF OUR YOU
KNOW, CONSTRAINTS ON THE
DIRECTION THE STATE MIGHT GO.
UM, BUT SO AND I WILL SAY, JUST
BY WAY OF FULL DISCLOSURE I OVER
THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR SO I
DIDN'T BUILD MYSELF AN ALL
ELECTRIC NEWHOUSE IN DAVIS
WANTED TO PUT MYSELF THROUGH THE
CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE. THAT
YOU KNOW, THE BUCK STOPS WITH
ME, SO I GOT TO KNOW WHAT I'M
DOING HERE. UM AND IT'S A
FABULOUS PRODUCT. IT JUST WORKS
BETTER. I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT
PRODUCT, LIKE THE JUST THE
INDOOR AIR QUALITY IS AMAZING.
THE UM, JUST THAT IT'S YOU KNOW,
IT WAS VERY TIGHT BUILDING SHELL
IS PART OF WHAT AN EFFICIENT
HOUSE LOOKS LIKE AND THAT ALSO
HAS NOISE AND AIR QUALITY
BENEFITS. UM SO IT'S A WHEN YOU
EXPERIENCE UM YOU KNOW, A VERY
EFFICIENT ALL ELECTRIC HOME IN
PERSON IN THREE DIMENSIONS. I
THINK A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF
FEARS COME DOWN AND ARE THEY AT
LEAST YOU CAN GET YOUR HEAD
AROUND WHAT IT WOULD BE TO LIVE
AND LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE
BUILDINGS, AND THAT'S PART OF
THE MARKET TRANSFORMATION THAT
WE NEED IS FOR PEOPLE TO
UNDERSTAND THAT AND START TO
REALLY WARM UP TO THIS POINT
INTENDED, I GUESS WARM UP TO THE
IDEA OF LIVING IN A MODERN
VERSION OF THE ALL ELECTRIC COME
BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME ONE AS
BEFORE. BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF
COMPONENTS TO THAT. THAT'S TRUE.
THAT'S TRUE, AND I'LL ALSO SAY
YOU KNOW MY DAUGHTER THE OTHER
DAY BAKED I'M NOT AGAIN NOT
UNJUST, BUT SHE MAKES SOME
WONDERFUL BANANA BREAD IN OUR
ELECTRIC GOVERNMENT. AND IT WAS
DELICIOUS. UM THEY DO SAY THAT
THE MOLECULES SORT OF, YOU KNOW
EVENLY DISTRIBUTED WARM, MUCH
MORE QUICKER, AND I GOT A WHOLE
TUTORIAL IT IS. I MEAN, THERE
ARE A LOT OF ISSUES ASSOCIATED
WITH GAS THAT WE NEED TO FIX.
REGARDLESS YOU KNOW, THERE'S
METHANE LEAKAGE IN THE GAS
SYSTEM THAT'S A POTENT
GREENHOUSE GAS. UM, YOU KNOW,
COMBUSTION HAS CRITERIA
POLLUTANT EMISSIONS THAT IF YOU
DON'T HAVE A GOOD VENT HOOD OVER
YOUR STOVE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOUR
COOKTOP UM THAT HAS REAL
CONSEQUENCES FOR CALIFORNIANS,
AND SO QUANTIFYING A LOT OF
THOSE IMPACTS AND UNDERSTANDING
THE BENEFITS OF MOVING AWAY FROM
THAT AND INDOORS, FOR EXAMPLE, I
THINK THAT'S PART OF THE
SOLUTION. BUT UM, YOU KNOW THAT
EACH OF THESE, EACH OF THESE END
USES SAY, YOU KNOW, THE
BARBECUE, THE HOTPLATE THAT
YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, PUT YOUR
KOREAN BEEF PH. UM THOSE NEEDS
SOLUTIONS. AND THERE ARE THERE
ARE MANY. UM THERE THERE ARE
THERE'S A REALLY AMAZING
COALITION AROUND FIGURING THIS
STUFF OUT. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT
ONLY THE ENERGY COMMISSION
THAT'S THINKING ABOUT THIS. IT'S
ACTUALLY A BUNCH OF ADVOCACY
GROUPS AND A LOT OF
MANUFACTURERS ARE OF THE KINDS
OF EQUIPMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
ARE REALLY INVESTING IN FIGURING
OUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT AND HOW TO
MAKE IT. TO KIND OF UH, I GUESS
HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT, TOO.
CONTINUING THE METAPHOR HERE,
BUT, UM AH, YOU KNOW IT. THESE
ARE ISSUES THAT WE MUST SAW
GOING FORWARD AND HOW WE'RE
GONNA EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S GOING
TO LOOK LIKE. UM, YOU KNOW, I
THINK WE'RE STARTING TO FIGURE
OUT WE'RE STARTING TO OPEN RULE
MAKINGS AROUND THE TRANSITION OF
THE GAS SYSTEM, FOR EXAMPLE. BUT
IF YOU'RE YOU KNOW, PG AND E AND
YOU'VE GOT BIG CHUNKS OF THE GAS
GRID, UM, HOW DO YOU ENSURE
SAFETY AND UM AND DECREASE THE
THROUGHPUT OF THAT GAS SYSTEM
WITHOUT HAVING THE FOLKS WHO ARE
MOST LIKELY TO REMAIN ON THAT
GAS SYSTEM PAYING FOR? YOU KNOW
THE WHOLE GAS SYSTEM AND HAVING
THAT BE AN EQUITY ISSUE, SO
THERE ARE LOTS OF AT ALL LEVELS.
THEY'RE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW,
STICKY ISSUES HERE, BUT, YOU
KNOW, I DO THINK AGAIN. WE HAVE
SOME VERY ROBUST PROCESSES AND
CONVERSATIONS THAT WILL FIND
SOLUTIONS OVER THE COMING YEARS
AND DECADES. THANK YOU FOR THAT
. DO YOU KNOW THAT SECOND PART
OF THE DISCUSSION THAT I WAS
HAVING? WITH, UM THIS GROUP OF
FOLKS. SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WE
TRANSITIONED FROM TALKING ABOUT
COOKING AND FOOD AND WHAT YOU
WANT TO THE COST OF ALL OF THESE
THINGS AND. THIS PARTICULAR
COUPLE HAS AN ELECTRIC CAR THAT
THEY CHARGE THEY'VE PUT SOLAR
PANELS ON THEIR HOUSE. UM THE
ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT, UM,
PURCHASING THEIR OWN BATTERIES
SO THAT THEY CAN STORE THEIR
ENERGY RATHER THAN HAVING IT GO
TO THE GRID, AND SO, UM, YOU
KNOW HOW TO LIVE, UM ALL
ELECTRIC YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY
IN COVER CITY, AND IT'S A VERY
EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION. AND SO I
BELIEVE YOU AND I WERE AT AN
EVENT TO CELEBRATE THE GRAND
OPENING OF A REALLY SPECTACULAR
, UM, PARTMENT BUILDING IN MAR
VISTA 50 UNITS, LOW INCOME
HOUSING, I THINK WHAT 8000
APPLICANTS FOR 50 SLOTS. UM AND
YEAH. AND IT WAS ACCELERATED. I
GUESS THE CONSTRUCTION WAS
ACCELERATED BECAUSE ENTITLEMENTS
HAD ALREADY BEEN SORT OF
PROCURED FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT
THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH. SO WE'RE
ABLE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. YOU
KNOW IN OUR LIFETIME, BUT IT
COSTS $37 MILLION. AND THAT'S
PRETTY EXPENSIVE FOR 50 UNITS.
AND SO IF THIS IS A WAY IN WHICH
WE WANT TO BEGIN TO BUILD YOU
KNOW, HOW CAN WE SCALE UP THESE
PROJECTS? BY DRIVING THE COSTS
DOWN SO THAT WE ARE AFFORDING
INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPERS TO SAY
, HEY, THIS IS WORTH MY
INVESTMENT. THIS IS WORTH MY
RISK. UM, YOU KNOW THESE RANTS.
I MIGHT ADD, WHERE ANYWHERE
BETWEEN FOUR AND $1200 FOR
STUDIO 23 BEDROOM. SO THAT IS A
WOW. BUT AT $37 MILLION IN
BRAIDING OF MULTIPLE PARTS OF
MONEY AT THE STATE AND THE
FEDERAL LEVEL, SOMETIMES THAT
WOW IS TOO LOUD FOR DEVELOPERS
TO SAY, I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO
THIS. SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS
ON HOW WE THE KINDS OF STICKS
AND INCENTIVES WE SHOULD BE
USING IN THIS THAT THE WAYS IN
WHICH WE SHOULD BE COLLABORATING
OR FORCING AGENCIES TO COOPERATE
MULTIJURISDICTIONAL E TO MAKE
SURE THAT THESE PROJECTS CAN
pHAPPEN IN IN A MORE COST.
EFFECTIVE WAY. GREAT WELL, THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION
AND THERE ARE LOTS OF REASONS
WHY LOW INCOME HOUSING IS SO
EXPENSIVE AND ACTUALLY AT THE
NEW CONSTRUCTION, IT'S LIKELY
THAT IN MOST PLACES BUILDING ALL
ELECTRIC VERSUS DUAL FUEL IS
ACTUALLY LESS EXPENSIVE IN TERMS
OF THE INITIAL INVESTMENT, AND
SO I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY AND
IT WOULD HAVE THESE HEALTH
BENEFITS AND A LOT OF A LOT OF
REASONS TO LIKE THAT APPROACH
FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING. BUT YOU
KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE BUILDING
LOW INCOME HOUSING IN THE IN THE
STATE IS JUST VERY DIFFICULT.
AND SO, UM, I HAVE BEEN OVER THE
LAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO, UM,
ACKNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF
UNDERSTANDING THAT AND TRYING TO
TRYING TO GET IT GET A GRIP ON
HOW THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES CAN
WORK TOGETHER BETTER. UM I'VE
BEEN CONVENING A GROUP OF BOTH
ENERGY AND HOUSING AGENCIES
THERE, EIGHT OR SO AGENCIES SO
IT'S PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
, THE AREA SOURCES BOARD ENERGY
COMMISSION, THE BUILDING
STANDARDS COMMISSION, THE
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES
DEVELOPMENT. UM, THE H C D. UH
UM. AND LET'S SEE. THERE ARE FEW
I'M MISSING, BUT, UM, OTHER
DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS SERVICES
RIGHT, WHICH IS WHERE A LOT OF
OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS SIT. UM AND
HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY. UM AND
SO I MAY BE MISSING ONE, BUT WE
WE'VE BEEN ACTUALLY TALKING
ABOUT THIS VERY SHOW AND THE
STRATEGIC GROWTH COUNCIL, SO THE
STRATEGIC GROWTH COUNCILS ARE A
LEADER IN THERE, YOU KNOW,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES PROGRAM
AND THEY'RE PRIORITIZING ALL
ELECTRIC NOW AS A CONDITION OF
REALLY RECEIVING THEIR GRANTS,
SO THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'VE PUT A
SORT OF A LIST OF PRIORITIES
THAT YOU GET MORE POINTS. IF YOU
DO, X, Y AND Z AND ALL ELECTRICS
RIGHT THERE AT THE TOP OF THE
LIST. AND THE BIG MONEY IS OVER
AT THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, UM,
YOU KNOW, AT IN TERMS OF THE TAX
ALLOCATION FOR HELLO, INCOME
HOUSING, THE TEA CAKE AND SEDLAK
AND SO YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, I'D
LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, SORT OF,
ENGAGE THEM AND TALK ABOUT HOW
WE CAN SORT OF, YOU KNOW, MOVE
OUR NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THAT
DIRECTION. TO BUILD BUILD BOTH
AFFORDABLY AND SUSTAINABLY.
THINGS LIKE THAT. EXACTLY. YES.
WELL YOU KNOW, UM, THANK YOU SO
MUCH. SOMETIMES WE PARTICIPATE
IN THESE HEARINGS AND WE ARE
EDUCATING. I LOVE IT WHEN WE
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
EDUCATED. AND THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED WITH ME TODAY WITH YOU,
SO I VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE THE
WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING VERY
MUCH. APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU
COLLEAGUES AND SENATOR KAMLAGER
. WE'VE COVERED A LOT OF GROUND
AND UM, WHEN DR MCALLISTER WAS
IN SAN DIEGO, THIS WAS THE
BENEFIT OF HIS EXPERTISE. WE
WERE NOT SHOCKED WHEN HE WAS
TAPPED TO COME TO THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION. SO REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT. AND YOUR
PERSPECTIVE, CERTAINLY AS AN
ECONOMIST, WHICH, UM, I
APPRECIATE, UH IN THIS. AND AS
FOR OUR COLLEAGUE FROM
BAKERSFIELD, WE GOT TO HEAR A
LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION. UM ON
THE FLOOR NOT LONG AGO AS WE
WERE PASSING ASSEMBLY BILL THE
BUDGET TRAILER BUILD A B 205.
AND I WAS GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS
ABOUT THAT. BUT I THINK YOU MADE
REFERENCE TO THE TOOLS AND THE
TOOLBOX AND NEEDING. TO STAY ON
TRACK A BIT LONGER IN ORDER TO
MAKE HEADWAY DOWN THE ROAD, AND
THAT'S SORT OF HOW I LOOK AT A B
205 BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF
CONTROVERSY OVER THAT, AND SOME
COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUE ABOUT
HER, UM, AMAZEMENT THAT WE WERE
ACTUALLY IN IN HER MIND.
MAINTAINING SOME OF THOSE TOOLS
LONGER THAN WE HAVE, UM, PUSHED
, UH, AS POLICY, BUT I DO
APPRECIATE, UM, THE WORK THAT
YOU DO AND YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE
AND REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU COULD
HAVE YOUR DAUGHTER WITH US
TODAY. I THINK IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT. GOOD THAT YOU COULD
SUPPORT YOUR DAD AND BE HERE
TODAY. UM I THINK WE COVERED A
LOT OF GROUND AND I AGREE WITH
SENATOR KAMLAGER. THIS WAS
ACTUALLY QUITE HELPFUL BECAUSE
WE FREQUENTLY AS WE'RE HERE,
DOING CONFIRMATIONS BETWEEN THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION, THE
ENERGY COMMISSION, ETCETERA. WE
STRIVE TO REALLY CONNECT THE
DOTS AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR
WHAT? AND THE INDEPENDENT SYSTEM
OPERATOR, YOU KNOW, CALLOUS Ó.
SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING
ROUND AND ROUND TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHO SHOULD WE HOLD
RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS? AND CAN
YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION VERSUS
SOMEONE ELSE? SO IT'S REALLY
HELPFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE TODAY,
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M
GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NOW WHO
HAVE BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING, AND
I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH AS WE
HAVE THE DIALOGUE AND ASK THE
QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO ASK
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT TO COME FORWARD. GIVE
YOUR NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION THAT
YOU REPRESENT, IF ANY, AND VERY
BRIEF COMMENTS OUT OF RESPECT
FOR THE LAST CONCRETE WHO HAS
BEEN ALSO WAITING VERY PATIENTLY
. WELCOME THANK YOU. PRESIDENT
MEMBERS READOUT US ON BEHALF OF
NRDC ACTION FUND AND THE
BUILDING DECARBONIZATION
COALITION AND STRONG SUPPORT
TODAY. YOU'VE HEARD THE
CHALLENGES THE STATE'S GOING TO
HAVE TO TAKE ON RELATED TO
CLIMATE AND WE NEED A AGENCY WHO
CAN INVEST DOLLARS IN A
THOUGHTFUL WAY. WE WANT
COMPETENT PEOPLE AT THOSE
AGENCIES ENERGY SEE THINGS THE
COMMISSIONER HAS HAD HAS BEEN
INSTRUMENTAL IN CALIFORNIA'S
CLEAN ENERGY LEADERSHIP, BOTH ON
DEMAND RESPONSE AND ENERGY
EFFICIENCY BUT ALSO RELATED TO
DECARBONIZATION. AND THE
BUILDING D CARD COALITION.
DEFINITELY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
THE VERY STRONG BUILDING
STANDARDS THAT YOU'VE
IMPLEMENTED. SO FOR THOSE
REASONS, WE'D REALLY LIKE HIS
CONFIRMATION MOVED TO THE SENATE
FLOOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR
ADAMS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT
SPEAKER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
AND THE COMMITTEE EMILY MILLS
WITH THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
OF SHEET METAL AND AIR
CONDITIONING CONTRACTORS, CAL
SMACK NHÀ AND STRONG SUPPORT OF
CONFIRMATION. CAL'S MAGNA HAS
HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO GET TO WORK
WITH COMMISSIONER MCALLISTER
SINCE 2013 IN HIS ROLE AS THE
LEAGUE COMMISSIONER FOR THE
TITLE, 24 BUILDING CODES,
REGULATORY ADOPTION AND
IMPLEMENTATION AND, UM CALC,
MAGNA AND AMBIGUOUSLY SUPPORTS
HIS CONFIRMATION FOR YET ANOTHER
TERM OF SERVICE FOR CALIFORNIA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH OTHER SPEAKERS. OKAY
AH, MR MODERATOR, WE'RE GOING TO
COME BACK TO YOU TO T UP THOSE
WHO MAY WISH TO SPEAK ON THE
TELECONFERENCE IN SUPPORT. LET
ME WELCOME BACK OUR MODERATOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR FOR THOSE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT,
PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO PRESS
SWINDON ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE'RE
GOING TO FIRST GO TO LINE 18.
THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. HELLO?
HELLO AMBER, SAY HA! WITH
STRATTON PRICE CONSULTING,
EXPRESSING SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF
ANEL ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND
AND AMERICAN CLEAN POWER. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT
SPEAKER, PLEASE. WE'RE GOING TO
MOVE ON TO LINE 12. GOOD
AFTERNOON MADAM PROTEST AND
MEMBERS TIFFANY FAN ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA EFFICIENCY AND
DEMAND MANAGEMENT COUNCIL, ALSO
ON BEHALF OF INTERSECT POWER,
BOTH IN SUPPORT OF THE RE
APARTMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH NEXT WITNESS. WE'RE
GOING TO NOW MOVE ON TO LINE
NINE. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS
CARRIE STACK BALL AND THE CEO
AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT
PLUMBING MANUFACTURERS
INTERNATIONAL. ON BEHALF OF OUR
MEMBERSHIP. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
CONFIRMATION OF COMMISSIONER
MCALLISTER'S REAPPOINTMENT TO
THE ENERGY COMMISSION AND THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
OUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. NEXT WITNESS, PLEASE.
MINE, 13. HELLO SENATORS. THIS
IS CHRIS OCHOA WITH THE
CALIFORNIA BUILDING INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION, FALLING IN SUPPORT
OF COMMISSIONER MCALLISTER'S
CONFIRMATION TODAY. UM I WANTED
TO SAY WE TOTALLY AGREE WITH
MANY OF THE CHALLENGES THAT HAVE
BEEN DISCUSSED TODAY, INCLUDING
GRID, RELIABILITY AND HOUSING,
AFFORDABILITY TO NAME A COUPLE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT
COMMISSIONER MCALLISTER IS
ALWAYS WILLING TO DISCUSS THESE
TOUGH ISSUES AND HAS AN OPEN
MIND VERY THOUGHTFUL AND TALKING
ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES
WE HAVE CALIFORNIA BALANCING OUR
CLIMATE GOALS, VS ARE EXTREME
HOUSING CRISIS, SO WITH THAT CBI
STRONGLY SUPPORTS THIS
CONFIRMATION TODAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT
WITNESS. MY MIND 17. AFTERNOON
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME
THIS AFTERNOON. THIS IS KYLER
WALKING AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF ELECTRICAL
WORKERS, CALIFORNIA STATE PIPE
TRADES COUNCIL, THE WESTERN
STATES COUNCIL OF SHEET METAL
BORDERS AND THE COALITION OF
CALIFORNIA UTILITY EMPLOYEES,
ALL IN GREAT SUPPORT OF DR
MCALLISTER'S REAPPOINTMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS
AFTERNOON. AND FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
NEXT WITNESS. MADAM CHAIR. THERE
IS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL THAT
THEY WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. MR MODERATOR WILL BE
BACK WITH YOU IN A MOMENT OR
TWO. OKAY WE WILL. HAVING HEARD
FROM THOSE IN SUPPORT. WE WILL
MOVE AND FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS
TO HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION
WILL START IN ROOM 2200. IS
THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
APPOINTMENT? THING NO ONE
STEPPED FORWARD TO THE MIC. MR
MODERATOR. I'M COMING BACK TO
YOU ALREADY TO TEE UP THOSE WHO
MAY WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO IF YOU WISH
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. THERE IS
NO ONE WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY
WISHED TO SPEAK. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. MR MODERATOR WILL BE BACK
WITH YOU LATER IN THE HEARING.
UM SO LET ME THANK EVERYONE WHO
SPOKE WE WILL NOW BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO THE MEMBERS.
I AM HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN
EMOTIONS. MOVED. THANK YOU,
MADAM VICE CHAIR. AND WITH THAT
, LET ME ASKED THE SECRETARY TO
CALL THE ROLL. GROVE KAMLAGER.
AYE, LOGGER. I LAYERED BATES, I
. ATKINS ATKINS. I ON CALL THAT
WILL BE ON CALL. UM AND I HAVE
NO DOUBT THAT SENATORS LAIRD AND
GROVE WILL BE BACK TO CAST THEIR
VOTES. CONGRATULATIONS WE WILL
MOVE THIS ONTO THE SENATE FLOOR
FOR CONFIRMATION. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MADAM PRO TIM. I REALLY
APPRECIATE IT. AND YOU AND YOUR
COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR YOUR YOUR YOUR
SERVICE. ABSOLUTE PLEASURE.
THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT REST OF
YOUR DAY. SO WE WILL CONTINUE
NOW TO ITEM ONE C, WHICH IS THE
APPOINTMENT OF KITH EC MILLS TO
THE CALIFORNIA STATE LOTTERY. SO
LET ME WELCOME YOU AND THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENTS. UM,
HERE TODAY WE DO APPRECIATE IT.
I'M GONNA OFFER YOU THE SAME
OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE
YOURSELF. ANYONE HERE WITH YOU
ARE AND OTHERS THAT YOU MIGHT
LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR THANK
AND THEN GO AHEAD WITH YOUR
OPENING COMMENTS. I WILL TELL
YOU MOST OF US ARE REALLY SORRY
THAT NONE OF US ONE THE $1
BILLION LOTTERY. UM YEAH, I
HAVEN'T SAID THAT. I MIGHT HAVE
HAD TO BUY A LOTTERY TICKET TO
DO THAT SO WITHOUT LOBBY. JUST
WELCOME YOU AND WE LOOK FORWARD
TO HEARING YOUR COMMENTS TODAY.
GREAT THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MADAM. PRO TIM. SENATORS REALLY
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
HERE WITH YOU TODAY AND DISCUSS
MY POTENTIAL REAPPOINTMENT TO
THE LOTTERY COMMISSION. I WANT
TO START BY ACKNOWLEDGING MY
PARTNER WHO HAS ALSO BEEN
PATIENTLY HERE WITH ME TODAY.
PHIL NANI ALWAYS VERY
SUPPORTIVE. I ALSO WANT TO
RECOGNIZING THINK MANY OF MY
COLLEAGUES WITH THE FOUNDATION
FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGES THAT ARE WATCHING AND
SUPPORTING ONLINE AND WORKED
TIRELESSLY TO SUPPORT OUR NEARLY
TWO MILLION STUDENTS. UM THERE
ARE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGES AND I'M HONORED AND
GRATEFUL TO THE GOVERNOR
GOVERNOR NEWSOM FOR APPOINTING
ME TO THE TO THE COMMISSION AND
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE
MY BACKGROUND AND IN MY
EXPERIENCE TO HELP THE LOTTERY
FULFILL ITS MISSION TO SUPPORT
PUBLIC EDUCATION AND IN
CALIFORNIA HAVE A DEEP PASSION
FOR OUR SYSTEM OF PUBLIC
EDUCATION. MY STARTING FROM MY
MOTHER, WHO WAS 1/5 GRADE
TEACHER FOR OVER 25 YEARS, AND I
SAW FIRSTHAND LIVING IT HOW MY
MOTHER HAD TO, YOU KNOW, INVEST
HER OWN MONEY TO BUY CERTAIN
SUPPLIES AND THINGS TO TEACH HER
STUDENTS. SO I UNDERSTAND THE
IMPORTANCE OF THIS TYPE OF
FUNDING. I'M A PRODUCT OF PUBLIC
EDUCATION FROM MY K 12 EDUCATION
. MY COMMUNITY COLLEGE
ASSOCIATES DEGREE TO MY FOUR
YEAR AH, DEGREE THAT LED ME INTO
THE JOB OF MY DREAMS AND AT THE
TIME WAS PUBLIC ACCOUNTING AND
NOW LEADING THE FOUNDATION FOR
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES,
WHICH SERVES THE LARGEST
INSTITUTION OF HIGHER PUBLIC
EDUCATION IN THE NATION,
ARGUABLY THE WORLD SO MY
EXPERIENCE AND MY PASSION FOR
THIS WORK RUNS DEEP AND I KNOW
FIRSTHAND HOW EDUCATION CHANGES
LIVES AND CHANGES, ECONOMIC
MOBILITY AND THE TRAJECTORY OF
SO MANY IN OUR IN OUR
COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA SO THIS OPPORTUNITY
IS REALLY MEANINGFUL FOR ME. I
THINK IT'S A OPPORTUNITY THAT
ALLOWS ME TO BRAID MY PASSION
WITH MY EXPERIENCE AND MY SKILLS
TO REALLY SUPPORT THE LOTTERIES
WORK TO MAXIMIZE FUNDING FOR
CALIFORNIA'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS, SO
I'M IN YEAR TWO OF MY SERVICE
WITH THE CALIFORNIA LOTTERY SO
STILL FAIRLY NEW. BUT REALLY
PROUD OF SOME OF THE PROGRESS
THAT'S BEEN MADE AND IN SUCH A
SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, UM A
COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD NOTE.
I'M I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK
THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING ON THE
COMMISSION IN THE MEETINGS I'VE
BEEN ADVOCATING FOR A LOT MORE
TRANSPARENCY AND GENERAL
INFORMATION SHARING, TOO. MAKE
SURE IT'S COMMISSIONERS THAT WE
UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT BEHIND
THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING
FORWARD AND THAT WE UNDERSTAND
HOW WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO
APPROVE REALLY WORKS TO MAXIMIZE
THE MISSION AND THE DOLLARS THAT
GO TO THE PUBLIC EDUCATION. I
THINK THE SECOND THING I WOULD
REFERENCE IS MY APPOINTMENT AS
CHAIR OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD
OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS TO
REALLY REINVIGORATE THE AUDIT
COMMITTEE. THERE'S NEW
LEADERSHIP. AND IN THE INTERNAL
AUDITS DIVISION THAT HAS REALLY
BROUGHT NEW ENERGY AND LIFE INTO
INTO THAT WORK AND AN AREA THAT
I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT TO
ENSURE THAT THE LOTTERY IS A
WELL RUN ORGANIZATION WITH WITH
SOLID CONTROLS, UM AND THAT
EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IS
ABOUT OUR MISSION TO SUPPORT
PUBLIC EDUCATION. AND SO WHILE
I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE PROGRESS
THAT'S BEEN MADE OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS AND REALLY
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE IN MY
SERVICE AND TO CONTINUE TO
PURSUE THE GOALS THAT I SET TWO
YEARS AGO THAT WERE REALLY LONG
TERM IN NATURE REMAINING MISSION
FOCUSED ON IMPROVING PUBLIC
PERCEPTION OF THE LOTTERY AND
ENSURING A REALLY WELL
CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT ALL
TOWARDS INCREASING IN MAXIMIZING. FUNDING FOR HIGHER EDUCATION.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY, AND
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. WELL THANK YOU VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE THOSE OPENING
COMMENTS AND PARTICULARLY YOUR
HISTORY AND YOUR PASSION, MADAM
VICE CHAIR. WHY DON'T I START
WITH YOU THIS TIME? THANK YOU.
WELL, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
MEALS FOR YOUR SERVICE. UM I
BELIEVE THAT YOU FIRST CAME ON
IN 2020. AND AT THAT TIME, THERE
WASN'T A VERY, UM FAVORABLE
AUDIT THAT HAD JUST BEEN DONE IN
2019 AND A COUPLE OF THE
PRACTICES OF THE PREVIOUS
COMMISSIONERS. SO YOU HAD TO
KIND OF STEP INTO THAT POSITION.
IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE THINGS HAVE
BEEN WELL ADDRESSED AND
CERTAINLY DID NOT COME UP IN THE
2020 AUDIT. BUT ONE THING THAT
THAT DID EMERGE AND I WILL BE
KIND OF THE BASIS OF MY QUESTION
WAS THE 2020 STATE AUDIT WAS
THAT THE LOTTERY ENTERED INTO
SEVERAL NON COMPETITIVE
AGREEMENTS WITHOUT ADEQUATE
JUSTIFICATION, AND THAT'S BEEN
AN ISSUE ON A NUMBER OF
CONTRACTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE
HERE WITH A NUMBER OF YOU KNOW
THE CONTRACTS THAT WE LET FOR A
VARIETY OF SERVICES AND PRODUCTS
FOR OUR LEGISLATURE IN THE
STATE, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
TO LOOK TO HAVE LOOKED INTO THAT
ISSUE AND CERTAINLY ADOPTED ANY
NEW PROTOCOLS TO ENSURE THAT WE
ARE LOOKING AT MORE COMPETITIVE
BIDDING, UM AND GETTING AS
SUCCESS THE BEST BANG FOR OUR
BUCK AND AS A C P A. I DON'T
DOUBT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
YOU DO FOCUS ON. BUT COULD YOU
ELABORATE A LITTLE ON THAT? SO
YOU'RE ADDRESSING THAT CONCERN
THAT WAS IN THAT PARTICULAR
AUDIT, WHICH WAS CERTAINLY A LOT
A LOT MORE FAVORABLE THAN WHAT
HAD GONE BEFORE. OR YOUR TERM.
YES ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR
THE QUESTION. I THINK THE
PROCUREMENT THE AREA OF
PROCUREMENT WITHIN THE
CALIFORNIA LOTTERY HAS BEEN AN
AREA THAT HAS HAD SIGNIFICANT
FOCUS DURING MY TENURE. ANOTHER
AREA WHERE THERE HAS BEEN NEW
LEADERSHIP THAT'S BEEN
INTRODUCED INTO THE PROCUREMENT
DEPARTMENT AGAIN, YOU KNOW,
COMBINED WTH THE FINDINGS FROM
THE AUDIT AND BRINGING KIND OF A
FRESH PERSPECTIVE INTO THE
DEPARTMENT IN THAT AREA, I THINK
REALLY ACCELERATED THE PROGRESS
THERE. UM AND THEN ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED ON
THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS ENSURING
THAT EVERY MEETING THAT WE
REVIEW FINDINGS FROM PREVIOUS
AUDITS AND THE PROGRESS THAT'S
BEEN MADE AGAINST THOSE FINDINGS
. SO UM, WE'VE BEEN WELL BRIEFED
ON THE INCREASE IN, UM ENHANCING
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, MAKING
SURE THAT THOSE POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES ARE REALLY CLEAR. BUT
I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, MAKING
SURE THAT STAFF ARE TRAINED ON
WHAT THOSE POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES ARE AND THAT THERE'S
ACCOUNTABILITY AROUND THOSE
PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES AND SO
THROUGH MY TENURE ON THE
COMMISSION, I'VE NOTED, NOTICED
REALLY VAST, CONTINUOUS
IMPROVEMENT. UM AND YOU KNOW THE
GRANT THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE
BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE
COMMISSION REALLY ROBUST RFP
PROCESSES THAT ARE EMPLOYED. AND
THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY, IS
THAT THE OTHER THING THAT I'VE
BEEN REALLY PLEASED WITH IS THE
WORK THE LOTTERY HAS DONE TO
SEEK OUT OTHER COMPETITIVELY BID
CONTRACTS THROUGH OTHER STATE
AGENCIES. AND I THINK THAT'S
REALLY SMART, BECAUSE WHAT THAT
DOES IS, YOU KNOW THESE OTHER
COMPETITIVELY BID CONTRACTS
LEVERAGE THE ENTIRE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND ALL OF THESE
OTHER AGENCIES, SO IT REALLY
WORKS TO DRIVE THE PRICE DOWN.
FOR OUR AGENCY AND OTHERS, AND
IT IS ALSO REALLY, REALLY
EFFICIENT WAY TO MAKE SURE
YOU'RE USING, YOU KNOW, PUBLICLY
BID CONTRACTS DRIVING THE PRICE
DOWN WITHOUT HAVING EVERY AGENCY
HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR OWN RFP
PROCESS. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT
OF WORK AND A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT
THAT I'VE SEEN IN THAT AREA.
GREAT AND I THINK WE HAVE TO IN
TERMS OF THE BACKGROUND
INFORMATION HERE. I THINK
WHENEVER YOU COME THROUGH AN
AUDIT IN WHAT HAPPENED
YESTERDAY, HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE
OF, OR TO THE GREATEST DEGREE
POSSIBLE. AND THEN YOU START
SOMETHING NEW, THEN I THINK
THAT'S A POSITIVE FOR US WHO ARE
LOOKING AT ALL THAT. I JUST HAVE
ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION HERE.
IT'S UM THE PRICE LEVELS AND
IT'S HOW THE COMMISSION
DETERMINES THE OPTIMAL PRICE
LEVEL IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE SALES
AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO
FUND EDUCATION BECAUSE THERE HAS
BEEN A AN ONGOING DISCUSSION
ABOUT WHETHER EDUCATION SINCE
THAT'S THE BASIS OF THE 1984
DECISION TO CREATE THE LOTTERY,
I WAS TO ADVANCE FUNDS TO
EDUCATION AND I DO REMEMBER MY
CHILDREN WERE IN ELEMENTARY
SCHOOL AT THAT TIME, AND WHEN
THIS WAS ESTABLISHED, WE WERE
THRILLED THOSE OF US ON TO
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE
MONEY. WE BELIEVED FOR THE
THINGS THAT TEACHERS WERE HAVING
TO PURCHASE THEMSELVES. SO WHAT
ARE WE DOING IN THAT AREA AND
YOU CAN BE GENERAL OR SPECIFIC
AND GIVE US AN IDEA OF SINCE
THAT IS YOUR FOCUS. MHM RAISE
FUNDS. HOW DO YOU MAXIMIZE THOSE
OF THOSE PRICE LEVELS AND
ACTUALLY HAVE TO MARKET FOR
THAT? ALSO HAVE A LITTLE, UH,
THUMBNAIL SKETCH OF HOW YOU
APPROACH THAT, OF COURSE. OUR
FIRST SAY THAT WE ARE VERY PROUD
THAT OUR NUMBERS AREN'T AUDITED
FINAL, BUT THEIR ESTIMATES SHOW
THAT WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUR
GOAL OF $2 BILLION CONTRIBUTION
TO EDUCATION THIS YEAR. THAT WAS
A BIG GOAL THAT WAS SET AND
REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'RE ABLE
TO. IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL
ACHIEVE THAT THIS YEAR, SO THAT
WAS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT. BUT
COMING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION
ABOUT HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE THE
PRIZE PAYOUT TO ENSURE THE
MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DOLLARS TO
EDUCATION? WE ACTUALLY AND THIS
WAS A SUGGESTION THAT CAME OUT
OF THE A AUDIT THAT WE ALL
AGREED WITH THAT IT WAS TIME TO
UPDATE OUR INDEPENDENT STUDY OF
WHAT IS THAT MAXIMUM PRICE
PAYOUT, SO THAT WAS DONE. UM
ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND WE WERE
ABLE TO USE THAT THE FINDINGS
FROM THAT INDEPENDENT STUDY IN
UM AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGETING
PROCESS, WHICH WAS REALLY
HELPFUL A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT
I'LL SAY AND THE LOTTERY HAD
DONE A PREVIOUS STUDY ABOUT 10
YEARS AGO. UM IT WAS INTERESTING
THAT THE STATE OF THE UPDATED
STUDY CAME IN WITH VERY SIMILAR
, VERY SIMILAR RANGE. AND SO
THAT ALLOWED US TO DO A COUPLE
OF THINGS NUMBER ONE VALIDATE
THAT ARE THE PRIZE PAYOUT SINCE
INCEPTION OF THE LOTTERY HAD
BEEN WITHIN THE OPTIMUM THAT
THIRD PARTY STUDIED OPTIMUM
RANGE AND THEN FOR THIS YEAR'S
BUDGET WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE
BUDGET APPROVAL CYCLE, WE WERE
AGAIN ABLE TO VALIDATE THAT THE
MIX OF PRODUCTS THAT WERE IN THE
BUDGET AND THE MIX OF PRICE
PAYOUTS THAT WERE IN THE BUDGET
DID MEET THAT OPTIMAL PRICE
PAYMENT PERCENTAGE AND THEN
ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT A NEW
PROCESS AND PROCEDURE HAS BEEN
IMPLEMENTED AT THE LOTTERY,
WHERE THE DIRECTOR OF THE
LOTTERY HAS TO CERTIFY THAT PINE
ON THAT, SO I WAS ABLE TO ASK
THE DIRECTOR BEFORE VOTING. TELL
ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT
PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, AND SO HE
WAS ABLE TO DESCRIBE A REALLY
ROBUST PROCESS WHERE THERE'S
SEVERAL MODELS AND YOU KNOW IF
YOU CAN IMAGINE YOU'RE TRYING TO
DEAL WITH EXCUSE ME, YOU KNOW
LOTS OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS AND
FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THAT RIGHT
PRODUCT MIX, AND SO HE DESCRIBED
A PROCESS OF THE BUSINESS
OFFICE, PRESENTING A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT MODELS, MAKING SURE
THAT THE OPTIMAL PRICE PAYOUT
PERCENTAGE IS MET, BUT THEN ALSO
MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE WE ARE
PUTTING TOGETHER A BUDGET THAT'S
GOING TO RESULT IN THE LARGEST
DOLLAR AMOUNT OF CONTRIBUTION TO
EDUCATION, SO WE WERE ABLE TO DO
THAT THIS YEAR WITH THE
BUDGETING PROCESS AND IT GAVE ME
A GREAT DEAL OF COMFORT TO HEAR
MORE ABOUT KIND OF THE THIRD
PARTY STUDY THE CERTIFICATION OF
THE NUMBERS AND THE LEVEL OF
MODELING THAT WAS HAPPENING TO
TRY TO GET TO THE BEST CASE
SCENARIO. VERY GOOD NEWS AND
THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. YOU
HAD A GREAT RESUME, AND I KNOW
IT'S A CPA. YOU'RE GOING GOING
TO BE REALLY IN THERE WITH A
GOOD PENCIL AND TAKING A VERY
CLOSE LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE.
SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AND
CERTAINLY YOUR SERVICE AND YOU
WILL HAVE MY SUPPORT. THANK YOU
AGAIN FOR ALL THAT YOU DO,
ESPECIALLY FOR I THINK EDUCATION
AND OUR KIDS SO VERY IMPORTANT.
AND OUR TEACHERS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MADAM. VICE CHAIR,
SENATOR KAMLAGER. THANK YOU,
MADAM PRO TEM. I ALSO WANT TO
THANK YOU, MISS MILLS FOR YEARS
SERVICE. I HAVE TO SAY IN
PREPARATION FOR THIS HEARING, WE
DID A NUMBER OF SEARCHES AND
NOTHING CAME UP. IT WAS DRAMA
FREE. UM AND SO HOW WONDERFUL.
IS THAT? WONDERFUL WONDERFUL.
YES YES. UM BUT JUST WANT TO
SHARE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
PROGRESS THAT IS BEING MADE. I
THINK IT'S REFLECTIVE OF AN
INCREASED DEGREE OF STABILITY AS
WELL AS UM, PROBABLY VERY HIGH
STAFF, MORALE FOLKS FEELING LIKE
THEY ARE DOING MISSION ORIENTED
WORK. UM YOU KNOW, ELIMINATING A
LOT OF THE PAST MALFEASANCE, I
THINK IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND IT IS VERY RARE THAT WE HEAR
FROM FOLKS WHO ARE LOOKING TO BE
CONFIRMED TO TALK ABOUT GETTING
AN AUDIT. WITH RECOMMENDATIONS
AND THEN IMPLEMENT THE
RECOMMENDATIONS. I MEAN, THE
STUNNING SO, UM. AH AND THEN ON
TOP OF THAT HEARING WHAT YOU
JUST TALKED ABOUT ABOUT GETTING
CLOSE TO MEETING YOUR GOALS AND
SEEING THAT SALES ARE GOING TO
BE EXCEEDING EXPECTATIONS, SO I
JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON
BEING PART OF WHAT SEEMS TO BE A
WELL OILED MACHINE. AND WHILE I
NEITHER PURCHASE SCRATCHERS. OR
LOTTERY TICKETS. I AM GLAD THAT
MILLIONS OF OTHERS ARE TO HELP
OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM. I
HAVE NO QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT I
WILL BE SUPPORTING YOUR
CONFIRMATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. SENATOR KAMLAGER,
UM, SENATOR GROVE. THANK YOU,
MADAM PRO TIM AND I DO APOLOGIZE
FOR BEING GONE THE FIRST FEW
MINUTES OF YOUR PRESENTATION,
BUT I WAS GETTING TEXT MESSAGES
AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I
HAD HAD ALREADY BEEN ASKED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS
TO YOU KNOW, BE APPOINTED TO
THIS POSITION. I DO BUY
SCRATCHERS. UH AH. TO PAY ONE
DAY I'M GONNA WIN. UM SO I DO
BUY SCRATCHERS. BUT ASIDE FROM
THAT, UM I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS. OKAY IN YOUR WRITTEN
RESPONSES FOR THE RULES
COMMITTEE, YOU STATED THAT ONE
OF YOUR GOALS TO ENSURE THAT
LOTTERY PRIORITY SCHOOLS AND
SALES AND EXPENDITURE PLANS AND
BUDGETS ARE ESTABLISHED WITHIN
THE MISSION WITH THE MISSION IN
MIND. WHAT STEPS ARE YOU GOING
TO TAKE TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS
THAT WE CONTINUE THE MISSION
THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CALIFORNIA
LOTTERY? YEAH, YOU KNOW, UM IN
MY OWN WORK WITH THE FOUNDATION
FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGES. IT'S A MISSION DRIVEN
ORGANIZATION. AND FOR ME, IT
MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE AND
NUMBER ONE HAVING YOUR EMPLOYEES
WHEN YOU GET OUT OF BED AND COME
TO WORK EVERY DAY, RIGHT TO KNOW
THAT THEY'RE COMING TO WORK AND
DOING GOOD WORK THAT IS HELPING
HELPING PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES
AND IN CALIFORNIA SO REALLY
FOCUSING ON THE MISSION, PART OF
THE WORK OF THE LOTTERY, I THINK
IS KIND OF FOR FIRST AND
FOREMOST, AND THE MISSION OF THE
LOTTERY IS TO MAXIMIZE FUNDING
FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION. SO IN
EVERY CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE
, AND EVERY CONTRACT THAT COMES
FORWARD AND EVERY INFORMATIONAL
ITEM THAT COMES FORWARD. I WANT
TO KNOW. HOW DOES THIS DECISION
THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO MAKE?
HOW DOES THIS CONTRACT? HOW DOES
THIS THING THAT YOU'RE DOING
THIS INITIATIVE THAT YOU'RE
DOING? HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK
TO MAXIMIZE FUNDING FOR PUBLIC
EDUCATION? SO YOU KNOW, PART OF
IT IS KIND OF THE MINDSET CHANGE
RIGHT FROM MAXIMIZING SALES,
MAXIMIZING SALES, BUT WE DID
ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGNS
TO NO, WE NEED AN ADVERTISING
CAMPAIGN. HIT THE RIGHT
CONSTITUENTS SO WE CAN. HAVE
MORE MONEY TO PROVIDE TO PUBLIC
EDUCATION AND REALLY TAKING THAT
, UM FOR FULL CIRCLE, SO THERE'S
THE PIECE OF LIKE THE CHANGING
THE MINDSET ACROSS THE
ORGANIZATION THAT WE ARE A
MISSION BASED ORGANIZATION THAT
IS HERE TO SUPPORT PUBLIC
EDUCATION. AND THEN THE SECOND
PART OF THAT IT'S THE NUMBERS,
RIGHT? AND I AM. I THINK YOU HAD
STEPPED OUT WHEN I TALKED A
LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT MAKING
SURE THAT OUR BUDGETS ARE
THE OPTIMUM PRICE PAYOUT THAT
OUR BUDGETS HAVE, UM REALLY, UM
SMART ADMINISTRATIONS SPEND THAT
ARE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, REGULATORY
BUDGETS, BUT THEN EVEN YOU KNOW,
SCRUBBED FURTHER THAN THAT, TO
MAKE SURE THAT OUR MONEY IS
BEING SPENT IN A IN A REALLY
PRUDENT WAY. AND SO I THINK WHEN
YOU CAN KIND OF COMBINE THAT
KIND OF MIND SHIFT OF WHY WE'RE
HERE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO
IS HERE TO SUPPORT PUBLIC
EDUCATION WITHIN THE SCRUTINY,
THE DEEPER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY AND
ON ON THE BUDGETS AND THE
NUMBERS. THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING
TO ACHIEVE OUR OUR BIG GOAL OF
$2 BILLION THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE
REALLY PROUD OF THAT. UM AND I
THINK, UM, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW
THOSE TWO THINGS ARE GOING TO GO
A LONG WAY AND CONTINUING THAT
TRAJECTORY. AH YOU SAID $2
BILLION, BUT THAT'S NET, RIGHT?
YES. SO IT'S $2 BILLION
CONTRIBUTION TO EDUCATION, SO
THAT'S KIND OF THE NET BOTTOM
LINE THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING
WITHOUT. ONCE WE GET THROUGH OUR
AUDITS THAT WILL BE ABLE TO
CONTRIBUTE TO PUBLIC EDUCATION
THIS YEAR, OKAY, BECAUSE MY NEXT
QUESTION WAS THAT YOU KNOW, IN
2021. YOU GUYS SAW $8.4 BILLION
IN SALES. HOW BIG IS YOUR
MARKETING TEAM? I MEAN, HOW BIG
IS YOUR MARKETING TEAM? BECAUSE
THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT
TO HAVE $8.4 BILLION IN SALES.
EVEN IF MY COLLEAGUE FROM LOS
ANGELES DOESN'T PARTICIPATE. AH,
YES, WE WERE. THE LOTTERY HAS A
REALLY ROBUST MARKETING TEAM.
UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T TELL YOU
THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT THERE ARE
REALLY ROBUST MARKETING TEAM
THAT DOES A LOT OF WORK REALLY
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND OUR
POPULATION OF CALIFORNIANS THAT
D PURCHASE LOTTERY TICKETS AND
WHY, UM, AND THEN ALSO, YOU
KNOW, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHO
ELSE IS OUT THERE. THAT'S NOT
BUYING THE LOTTERY TICKETS. AND
HOW DO WE REACH YOU? SO UM, YOU
KNOW, THERE'S IN ADDITION TO THE
TO THE TEAM AT THE LOTTERY IN
THE SALES AND MARKETING
DEPARTMENT. WE ALSO ENGAGE
EXPERTS. THIRD PARTY EXPERTS TO
HELP US DESIGN MARKETING
CAMPAIGNS. HELP US DO, UM,
SPECIFIC MARKET RESEARCH IN
AREAS OR IN DEMOGRAPHICS, SO
THAT WHEN WE DO PUT TOGETHER, UM
YOU KNOW, KIND OF OURSELVES AND
MARKETING MARKETING PLANS THAT
THOSE PLANS ARE REALLY WELL
INFORMED BOTH THROUGH THE
TENURED STAFF THAT ARE WITHIN
THE LOTTERY, BUT THEN ALSO
VALIDATED, UM AND REALLY
ACCELERATED THROUGH THESE OTHER
CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS. WE
HAVE WITH OTHER AREAS OF EXPERTS
IN THE FIELD. AND JUST FOR
PERSONAL INFORMATION. UM, FOR
INSTANCE, THAT $2 BILLION THAT
YOU MENTIONED AND I'M SURE I'M
NOT USING THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY.
BUT I HOPE I CAN GET MY POINT
ACROSS IS THAT $2 BILLION WHEN
YOU GIVE IT TO THE DEPARTMENT
WILL GIVE IT TO THE EDUCATION
FOR EDUCATION USE IS THAT LIKE
PRE ALLOCATED OR DETERMINED
RESOURCES THAT HAVE TO BE SPENT
A CERTAIN WAY, OR IS IT AT THE
DISCRETION OF THE LOCAL BOARD?
SO UM SO WE SO 100% OF OUR NET
PROCEEDS GO TO SUPPORT PUBLIC
EDUCATION AND THE WAY THAT IT'S
ALLOCATED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS
THAT IT'S ALLOCATED OUT TO ALL
THE SCHOOLS K 12 COMMUNITY
COLLEGE UCC SUS THE HIGHER ED
ALL THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS
BASED ON KIND OF FULL TIME
EQUIVALENT STUDENTS, SO THE
MONEY GOES OUT. AND THEN THERE
ARE REGULATIONS AROUND HOW THE
SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES CAN CAN USE
THAT MONEY. BUT IT'S PRETTY
BROAD. EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS TO
HELP SUPPORT TEACHERS,
ESPECIALLY RECENTLY TO HELP
SUPPORT KIND OF TECHNOLOGY NEEDS
, WHICH WAS REALLY IMPORTANT
DURING DURING COVID, AND SO IT'S
REALLY MEANT TO BE KIND OF
SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING TO HELP
KIND OF ACCELERATE AND BRAID
INTO EXISTING FUNDING TO REALLY
ACCELERATE KIND OF KEY
PRIORITIES AT THE SCHOOL. AND SO
THE SCHOOLS DO DECIDE HOW TO
SPEND THOSE MONEY THAT MONEY AT
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE THAT WOULD
HAPPEN AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL. UM
AND BUT THEN, WITHIN THE
REGULATIONS OF. BETTER SET FORTH
. THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. I
APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE YOU
KNOW NOT. IT'S NOT. THERE'S
EDUCATION IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF
THE STATE AS DIVERSE AS THE
STATE IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL
SITUATION. AND SO I REALLY LIKE
. I LOVE THAT RESPONSE. SO SO
THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY
FURTHER QUESTIONS AND THE
QUESTIONS STAFF TOLD ME THAT
THAT WERE ALREADY ASKED. THAT I
DID HAVE. AND SO I LOOK FORWARD
TO SUPPORTING YOUR CONFIRMATION
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SENATOR
GROVE. I PARTICULARLY ENJOYED
THAT WHILE YOU WERE EXPLAINING
THE FUNDING FORMULA, YOUR SPOUSE
WAS NODDING HIS HEAD. WHICH
MEANS HE DOES WORSE SUPPORT. I
IT WAS A HIGHLIGHT OF MY DAY.
I'M SORRY. I YOU KNOW WE LEARNED
SO MUCH. AT THESE CONFIRMATION
HEARINGS AS I THINK, SENATOR
KAMLAGER SAID ABOUT THE PREVIOUS
BUT AND I WANT TO THANK THE VICE
CHAIR BECAUSE AS SHE WAS
SPEAKING I WAS HAVING I WAS
REMEMBERING WHEN YOU WERE HERE
BEFORE AND THE CONVERSATION THEN
VERSUS NOW, I DON'T HAVE
QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU BECAUSE I THINK YOUR
EXPERIENCE AND WHAT YOU BRING TO
THE SPORT IS CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT. AND TO THE COMMENT OF
OUR, UM TO ADD WHAT MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID. UM RESULTS
IN, UM. A BETTER PROCESS AND
OVERSIGHT. AND I THINK WE'VE
LEARNED IN THE LAST FEW DECADES
THAT AUDIT COMMITTEES ARE
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. TO THE
VIABILITY AND THE REALLY
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
TO ANY ORGANIZATION, PUBLIC OR
PRIVATE, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO
HAVE AN AUDIT COMMITTEE, SO I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT
SPECIAL ROLE THAT YOU PLAY. UM I
AM GONNA MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT
AND I WILL START WITH ANYONE
HERE IN ROOM 2200 THAT WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. AND
AGAIN RECOGNIZING THAT YOUR
SPOUSE SUPPORTS YOU BECAUSE HE
ALREADY HAS BEEN SHAKING HIS
HEAD POSITIVELY. SO OKAY, SEEING
NO ONE STEPPING FORWARD NOW LET
ME ASK OUR MODERATOR TO RETURN,
JOIN US AND SEE IF THERE IS
ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IN SUPPORT
AND THE T UP THOSE CALLERS. FOR
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT. PLEASE PRESS ONE
THAN ZERO PRESS FUNDING ZERO AT
THIS TIME. MM HMM. MADAM CHAIR.
THERE IS NO ONE WHO SIGNALED
THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. UM WE WILL COME
BACK AND I WILL SEE IF THERE'S
ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION. AND I SEE NO ONE
, UH, MOVE INTO THE MICROPHONE.
SO LET ME ASK YOU, MR MODERATOR.
IF YOU CAN T THOSE UP THAT MIGHT
WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. FOR
THOSE OF YOU WHO WISH TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION PRESS 10
RESPONDENTS, ZERO AND ONCE AGAIN
, THERE IS NO ONE WHO SIGNALED
THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE ALL
OF YOUR HELP TODAY TO MAKE OUR
PROCESS RUN SMOOTHER. I WILL
COME BACK INTO MY COLLEAGUES AND
ASK FOR EMOTION. SOME MOVED.
THANK YOU. THAT WAS SENATOR
GROVE WITH EMOTION. MADAM
SECRETARY. WE PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. GROVE HIGH GROVE. I
KAMLAGER KAMLAGER I LAYERED
BATES. I ATKINS ATKINS. I'VE FOR
20 ON CALL, AND THAT WILL BE ON
CALL SO THAT SENATOR LAIRD CAN
ADD HIS VOTE WITH OUR THANKS
AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND OUR
THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL MOVE THIS
ON TO THE SENATE FOR FULL
CONFIRMATION. HAVE A GREAT REST
OF YOUR DAY. THANK YOU. OKAY UM
, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO
I KNOW THAT SENATOR LAYERED WILL
BE ON HIS WAY BACK, BUT WE CAN
GO AHEAD AND START TO OPEN THE
ROLE OF FOR PREVIOUS UM, VOTES.
SO WHY DON'T WE START? LET ME
JUST CHECK WITH YOU. OKAY? WE
CAN WE CAN DO THAT WE CAN START
WITH THE GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES
THAT WERE NOT REQUIRED TO APPEAR
AND FOR YOUR BENEFIT, MADAM VICE
CHAIR. WE DID DO SEPARATION AND
I WILL READ THROUGH IT. SO YOU
CAN CONFIRM THAT WE SEPARATED
THE VOTES. UM AS AS WAS HELPFUL
. UM FOR YOU AS WELL. SO I WILL
ASK MADAM SECRETARY TO OPEN THE
ROLL ON ITEM. TWO G. J K AND L.
DID YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I'M YES
, I WILL. IT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
UM WE DID. WE DID A SEPARATION
OF VOTES IN THAT LONG LIST OF
GOVERNORS APPOINTEES NOT
REQUIRED TO APPEAR SO THE FIRST
MOTION THAT WAS MADE WAS FOR
ITEM TWO G. J K AND L. TWO G SAY
J AND L A AND L OKAY. OKAY AND L
YES, I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE TWO
QUÊ. UM, FROM THAT. I INTEND TO
OPPOSE. ON ALL BUT TWO QUÊ. OKAY
UM, NO. EXCUSE ME. DID YOU TAKE
THEM ALL TOGETHER? WE DID IN
CHECKING WITH STAFF. WE
UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS WAS HOW THE
VOTES NEEDED TO BE SEPARATED IN
ORDER. OH, YEAH. I SEE THEN
SINCE THEY'RE SEPARATED, TOO, AS
A GROUP I THINK I WILL, UM. I
WILL ABSTAIN. I THINK THAT'S THE
ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO WITHOUT
BREAKING UP AGAIN. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU JUST SAY ABSTAIN ON
BATES. THANK YOU. PLEASE. I'M
GONNA I'M GONNA READ IT AGAIN.
SO I JUST GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES
NOT REQUIRED TO APPEAR THE FIRST
MOTION THAT WAS MADE THAT HAS
BEEN VOTED ON. WAS FOR ITEMS TO
G. THAT WOULD BE THE WATER
QUALITY CONTROL BOARD FROM
CENTRAL COAST REGION J. WATER
QUALITY CONTROL BOARD FROM NORTH
COAST REGION AND THEN K AND L,
WHICH ARE WATER QUALITY CONTROL
BOARD MEMBERS FROM THE SAN DIEGO
REGION. YEAH I KNOW, BUT IT'S
THIS ONE. THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR
ME. RESTAURANT GOT IT. OKAY BUT
WE CAN'T TAKE THAT ONE OUT. OKAY
AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD HAVE TO
REMOVE ALL OF THEM. YES UM SO.
I'M JUST I'M I'M THINKING, MADAM
VICE CHAIR IN TERMS OF WHETHER,
UM, WHETHER WE CAN DO SOMETHING
DIFFERENTLY, GIVEN THAT THE VOTE
HAS ALREADY OCCURRED. UM. I'M
I'M JUST GOING TO ASK GOING
FORWARD WHEN? WHEN I ASK IN
ADVANCE FOR STAFF TO TELL US HOW
TO DO THESE VOTES THAT WE
CONFIRM IT WITH OUR COLLEAGUES
BECAUSE THIS IS ALL TOO MHM
EXPEDITE THINGS, BUT IT'S ALSO I
DON'T WANT PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT
MY COLLEAGUES HAVING TO VOTE FOR
THINGS OR NOT VOTE FOR PEOPLE
THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR. SO LET ME. UM SO I'M GONNA I'M GONNA ASK
THAT WE MAKE A MOTION TO RESEND
THE VOTE ON ITEM TWO G. J. K AND
L. SO MOVING. THANK YOU, SENATOR
LAIRD. I THINK YOU WERE THE
ORIGINAL PERSON WHO MADE THAT
MOTION. SO WE ARE VOTING TO
RESCIND ITEM TWO G. J. K AND L.
MADAM SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL TO RESCIND THE
VOTE AK OH, YES. ALRIGHT GROVE
HIGH GROVE. I KAMLAGER KAMLAGER
. AYE LAIRD. I BATES BATES, I
ATKINS IS I NOW I WOULD RETURN I
WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION AS IT
RELATES, MADAM VICE CHAIR. I
ACTUALLY THINK I WOULD ASK FOR
YOU TO MAKE A MOTION OF THE
ITEMS THERE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE
TO PUT FORWARD FOR SUPPORT OF
THE TWO G. J K AND L TO MOVE TO
QUÊ. OKAY CONFIRMATION OF BETTY
OLSON, UM, WATER QUALITY CONTROL
BOARD SAN DIEGO REGION. OKAY
MOVE APPROVAL ON TWO K. OKAY
THAT MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. MADAM
SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL? GROVE NO GROVE. NO
KAMLAGER KAMLAGER. I LAYERED I
BATES ALRIGHT. I ATKINS ATKINS.
I 4 TO 1 THAT PASSES 4 TO 1.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD. IS
IT APPROPRIATE, MADAM VICE CHAIR
IF I COULD ASK IF WE COULD HAVE
EMOTION ON TWO G J AND L YES.
OKAY SO MOVE. THANK YOU. SENATOR
LAIRD. MADAM SECRETARY, WILL YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? GROVE
GROVE. NO KAMLAGER KAMLAGER. AYE
LAIRD. I BATES NO, BATES. NO
ATKINS, I 32 TO 3 TO TWO. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. LET ME ASK, UM
MADAM VICE CHAIR IF THERE WAS A
MOTION FOR TWO M AS ONE
STANDALONE MOTION, UM, WILL OPEN
THE ROLL ON THAT ONE ITEM.
BATES. NOT VOTING. BATES NOT
VOTING. 30 TO 0. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THE LAST ITEM ON
APPOINTEES NOT REQUIRED TO
APPEAR WAS ON ITEM TWO D E. HALF. H I AN END. IS THAT LET ME
HAVE YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SEE
OKAY? MADAM SECRETARY, WILL YOU
OPEN THE ROLE FAITH I 5 TO 05 TO
ZERO. THANK YOU COLLEAGUES AND
WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEMS 34 AND
FIVE BILL REFERRAL SELECT
COMMITTEE REQUEST AND FLOOR
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS. MADAM
SECRETARY, WILL YOU OPEN THE
ROLE BATES I EIGHT I 5 TO 0.
THANK YOU. THAT IS OUT, SO LET'S
SEE. I WILL GO BACK TO ITEM
NUMBER ONE A. THE APPOINTMENT TO
THE STATE WATER RESOURCES
CONTROL BOARD AND ASK YOU TO
OPEN THE RULE. THAT'S ACTUALLY
DID WE GET ALL OF THOSE? OKAY?
SO ITEM ONE B. DR MCALLISTER TO
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION
OPENED THE ROLE. GROVE. I.
LAIRD, I 5 TO 05 TO ZERO THAT IS
OUT AND THEN ITEM ONE SEE THE
CALIFORNIA STATE LOTTERY
COMMISSION, DID WE? WE DIDN'T
GET OUT. WE GOT ALL OF THOSE. NO
I'M OPEN THE ROLE I 5 TO 05 TO
ZERO. MADAM SECRETARY DOES THAT
CONCLUDE ALL OF THE VOTES IN OUR
HEARING TODAY SO THAT CONCLUDES
TODAY'S PUBLIC PORTION OF THE
AGENDA. LET ME SAY THANK YOU TO
ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
PARTICIPATED IN OUR PUBLIC
TESTIMONY TODAY. IF YOU WERE NOT
ABLE TO TESTIFY TODAY, PLEASE
SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS OR
SUGGESTIONS IN WRITING TO THE
RULES COMMITTEE OR VISIT OUR
WEBSITE FOR INSTRUCTIONS. YOUR
COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS ARE
IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE WANT TO
INCLUDE YOUR TESTIMONY IN THE
OFFICIAL HEARING RECORDS. SO
THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR YOUR
PATIENCE, COOPERATION, AND THE
SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES WILL
NOW MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.