ON RULES WILL COME TO ORDER
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE WE ARE
HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE HEARING
IN THE -- STREET BUILDING
IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
AS WE CONTINUE TO TAKE SOME
PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE ONGOING
COVERT NINETEEN RISK THE SENATE
CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC
AND HAS PROVIDED ACCESS TO BOTH
IN PERSON AND TELECONFERENCE
PARTICIPATION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT VIA
THE TELECONFERENCE ORVIS THE
PARTICIPANT TOLL FREE NUMBER
AND ACCESS CODE IS POSTED ON
OUR COMMITTEE WEBSITE AND WILL
BE DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN
TODAY'S PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS
EIGHT SEVEN SEVEN TWO TWO SIX
EIGHT ONE SIX THREE AND THE
ACCESS CODE IS SIX ZERO ONE
FOUR EIGHT THREE TWO I
WILL MAINTAIN DECORUM DURING THE
HEARING AS IS CUSTOMARY AND ANY
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DISRUPTIVE
MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE REMOTE
MEETING SERVICE ARE HAVE THEIR
CONNECTIONS MUTED FOR PURPOSES
OF OUR COURT REPORTER I WILL ASK
THAT ALL SPEAKERS COLLEAGUES AND
WITNESSES ALIKE TO SPEAK SLOWLY
AND CLEARLY AND FOR THOSE ON THE
TELECONFERENCE WILL DISPLAY THE
NUMBER A COUPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT
THE HEARING SO THAT YOU HAVE
ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION IT IS
ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE BUT I WILL
ALSO IF FOR SOME REASON OUR
COURT REPORTER CANNOT HEAR YOU
OR THERE ARE TECHNICAL ISSUES I
MAY -- INTERRUPT YOU TO STOP
AND REPEAT YOUR NAME EXCEPT
TRUCK JUST SO THAT WE ARE
SURE WE GET YOU ON THE RECORD
SO -- BEFORE WE BEGIN TODAY'S
AGENDA -- LET'S ESTABLISH
A QUORUM AND A REMINDER
TO MY COLLEAGUES WILL NEED TO
TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE FOR THE
ROLL CALL AND EVERY TIME WE VOTE
SO WITH THAT MADAM SECRETARY
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL OUR ROLE
GROUP PRESENT GROUP PRESENT
HERTZBERG KAMLAGER
BATES HERE BATES HERE
ATKINS HERE HAPPENS HERE
THANK YOU ARE I AM
ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE SOME
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ONE --
YOU -- NOTICE THAT US SENATOR
HERTZBERG'S NAME WAS CALLED
HE WILL BE SITTING IN TODAY
FOR SENATOR LAYERED WE MADE
A REPLACEMENT APPOINTMENT
-- FOR THE RULES COMMITTEE
TODAY SO HE WILL BE HERE --
ALSO R. AS INDICATED WE HAVE
-- BEFORE ARE ALL THE MEMBERS
GOT HERE I SAID TO THE PUBLIC
THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE COMMITTEES
-- MEMBERS PRESENTING BILLS SO
-- AS DIFFICULT AS IT MAY SEEM
WE MAY HAVE PEOPLE COMING AND
GOING BUT WE'VE MANAGED TO
MAKE THIS WORK AT THE RULES
COMMITTEE AND GIVE MEMBERS THE
ABILITY TO ASK THE QUESTIONS
OF OUR APPOINTEES SO IT MAY
BE A LITTLE -- YOU WE WERE
JUST ALL GOING TO CONTINUE TO
BE FLEXIBLE I AND I APPRECIATE
THAT -- I WILL MAKE ONE OTHER
COMMENT -- JUST BECAUSE I I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW I
DID AND I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES
GOD AT LEAST ONE LETTER --
ASKING FOR A COUPLE
OF THESE APPOINTMENTS
PARTICULARLY RELATED TO THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION AND
THE INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATOR
FOR THOSE APPOINTMENTS TO BE
DELAYED UNTIL AUGUST --
BASED ON OTHER ACTIONS HAPPENING
BUDGET AREN'T RELATED TO THE
BUDGET AND A AND AND ENERGY
TRAILER BILL I JUST WANT TO BE
-- FORWARD -- STRAIGHTFORWARD
WITH THE PUBLIC -- THE RULES
COMMITTEE HAS A VERY ROBUST
-- APPOINTMENT SCHEDULE ARE
AS YOU KNOW WE ARE GETTING READY
TO GO ON BREAK A LEGISLATIVE
BREAK IN JULY WE COME BACK IN
AUGUST AND HAVE VERY FEW WEEKS
LEFT SO WELL I WANT TO MAKE
SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS WE READ
OUR LETTERS WE READ -- WHAT
COMES TO US FROM THE PUBLIC
IN THE WAY OF COMMENTS -- I
ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE
ROBUST QUESTIONS AND DIALOGUE
BETWEEN THE MEMBERS OF THIS
RULES COMMITTEE AND THE --
INDIVIDUALS APPEARING FOR
CONFIRMATION TODAY SO I JUST
WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW --
WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THESE APPOINTMENTS TODAY
FOR CONSIDERATION AND SEE WHERE
THE QUESTIONS AND THE DIALOGUE
TAKE US ARE AND I HAVE NO DOUBT
MY COLLEAGUES HAVE PLENTY OF
QUESTIONS SO AND THAT ALSO LETS
THOSE WHO WERE WAITING TO BE
UP AND CONSIDERED KNOW THAT
THERE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE SOME
QUESTIONS RELATED TO -- TO
OTHER ACTIONS THAT WE ARE
ENGAGED IN ALL RIGHT NOW AS
IT RELATES TO THE BUDGET SO
-- HI I AM GOING TO ACTUALLY
GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED I'M
GOING TO HOLD OFF ON THE --
DISPENSING WITH NOT REQUIRED
TO APPEAR I HAVE TO SEPARATE
A BUNCH OF OUR VOTES AND
WANNA MAKE SURE I CAN GET
APPROPRIATE MOTIONS TO PROCEED
FORWARD SO WE ARE GOING TO
GO AHEAD AND ACTUALLY START
OFF WITH REQUIRED TO APPEAR
ARE IN LINE WITH KEEPING A
FLEXIBILITY IN BEING ABLE TO
MOVE US FORWARD FIRST
UP TO DATE WILL BE GOVERNOR'S
APPOINTEES REQUIRED TO APPEAR
AND I'M GOING TO INVITE I
MISS ALICE B. REYNOLDS J.
D. PRESIDENT OF THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION FOR
WORK WELCOME AND AGAIN THANK
YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE --
INVITE YOU TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF
MAKE OPENING COMMENTS ANY
RECOGNITIONS ARE SAYING SHE
WOULD LIKE TO GIVE AND THEN
WE WILL GO RIGHT TO MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS SO WITH THAT WELCOME
THANK YOU GOOD MORNING MADAM
CHAIR MADAM VICE CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU TODAY
AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
OF MY APPOINTMENT I DO HAVE
A FEW PEOPLE I WOULD LIKE TO
RECOGNIZE FIRST ALL START BY
ACKNOWLEDGING MY TWO CHILDREN
AND I HAVE MY SON OSCAR HERE
WITH ME TODAY IN THE FRONT ROW
-- HE'S SIXTEEN AND I ALSO HAVE
A FOURTEEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER
WHO'S WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM
I'M MY CHILDREN PROVIDE ME
ENCOURAGEMENT SUPPORT AND
IMPORTANTLY THEY REMIND ME
TO THINK ABOUT THE WORLD THE
YOUNG PEOPLE OF TODAY WILL
LIVE IN TOMORROW SO JUST WANT
TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE
THEM A QUICKLY I ALSO WANT TO
RECOGNIZE MY HUSBAND DAN FOR
HIS AND WE AT WAVERING SUPPORT
AND ADDING KNOWLEDGE MEN ACROSS
THE COUNTRY TO MY SISTER SARA
AND MY FATHER WHO IS WATCHING
FROM HARRISONBURG VIRGINIA
AND FINALLY I WOULD LIKE TO
THANK THE GOVERNOR FOR GIVING
ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION I CAME TO THIS
APPOINTMENT AFTER SPENDING
MOST OF MY CAREER WORKING FOR
THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA WITH
OVER TWENTY YEARS OF PUBLIC
SERVICE STARTING IN THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE AND CONTINUING
IN THE PRESS THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE
THROUGHOUT MY CAREER I MADE
IT A POINT TO LISTEN CAREFULLY
AND TO PUSH FOR CHANGE WHEN IT
BEST SERVES THE PUBLIC AND EVEN
WITH THE CHALLENGES I FACED IN
MY PRIOR POSITIONS I VIEW
THIS AS THE MOST DIFFICULT
JOB I'VE EVER HAD AND ALSO THE
MOST IMPORTANT I APPROACH THE
APPOINTMENT WITH HUMILITY THAT
LEADS ME TO CAREFUL DELIBERATION
ON THE MANY TRANSFORMATIVE
ISSUES THAT WE FACE AT THE
CPUC BOLD MEASURES TO
ACCELERATE THE PROGRESS TOWARD
COMBATING CLIMATE CHANGE WHILE
SIMULTANEOUSLY TAKING ACTION
TO BECOME MORE RESILIENT TO ITS
IMPACTS BRIDGING THE DIGITAL
DIVIDE AND ALWAYS BEING CENTERED
ON EQUITY AS WE WORK TO FOCUS ON
CALIFORNIA'S MOST IMPACTED AND
DISENFRANCHISED COMMUNITIES I
AM ALSO MINDFUL OF THE REALITIES
CALIFORNIANS ARE CURRENTLY
FACING AND WHAT THE CPUC
DECISIONS MEAN TO INDIVIDUALS
AND COMMUNITIES HOUSEHOLDS
HAVE BEEN HIT BY A CONFLUENCE
OF EVENTS NONE OF WHICH TAKE
US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON
ENERGY RATES VOLATILE NATURAL
GAS PRICES SUPPLY CHAIN
DISRUPTIONS HIGH INFLATION AND
A PANDEMIC THAT IS STILL WITH US
AS WE ALSO ALL HAVE EXPERIENCE
CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACTS MAKE THE
DAILY PEAKS IN ENERGY DEMAND
MORE EXTREME AND UNPREDICTABLE
EXTREME HEAT WILDFIRES
AND DROUGHT ALL UP AND OUR
TRADITIONAL PLANNING ASSUMPTIONS
AND PUT US IN THE POSITION OF
PLANNING FOR A WORST CASE THAT
MAY BE WORSE THAN ANYTHING WE'VE
SEEN IN THE PAST THE PAST IS
NO LONGER A PREDICTOR OF THE
PRESENT THE CPSC WILL
NEED TO ANTICIPATE AND ADAPT
AND WORK TOGETHER WITH OUR
SISTER AGENCIES THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION THE CALIFORNIA
INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATOR AS
WELL AS THEIR RESOURCES BOARD
TO BRING OUR BEST TO THE TABLE
THE LEGISLATURE HAS HISTORICALLY
PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN
ESTABLISHING THE FOUNDATION FOR
ENERGY POLICY AND CALIFORNIA
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED
ATTENTION TO SAFE AFFORDABLE
RELIABLE CLEAN ENERGY AS
WELL AS BROADBAND FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS I WELCOME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO
STRENGTHEN THE PARTNERSHIP
BETWEEN THE LEGISLATURE AND
THE C. P. U. C. WHICH IS MORE
IMPORTANT NOW THAN EVER GIVEN
THE ENORMITY OF THE ISSUES WE
FACE WITH THAT I WOULD AGAIN
LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION IT IS TRULY AN
HONOR TO BE CONSIDERED FOR
CONFIRMATION FOR THIS POSITION
AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR
TIME THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH LET ME WELCOME OSCAR IN
PARTICULAR AND -- WHILE YOU'RE
ON THE MIKE AND AND PUBLIC
YOU SHOULD SAY YOUR DAUGHTER'S
NAME BECAUSE I'M SURE SHE'S
GONNA WANT TO HEAR IT THANK
YOU FOR THAT HER NAME IS RUBY
RUBY WELL WE WELCOME YOU HERE
TODAY AND WITH THAT -- MADAM BY
SHARING GOING TO START WITH YOU
WELL THANK YOU AND -- WELCOME
PRESIDENT REYNOLDS WE HAD A VERY
IN DEPTH CONVERSATION YESTERDAY
IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING TO ME
FROM BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS
SIGNED NOT WITH YOU BUT LAST
YEAR'S WE WENT THROUGH --
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT
WERE THERE IN YOU ANSWER SO
MANY QUESTIONS LIKE I THINK
IT'S ALMOST BETTER TO LET
YOU SHARE ON OUR CONVERSATION
IN THE PARTY IN PARTICULAR A
COUPLE OF THE AREAS THAT WERE
VERY I THINK VERY GOOD NEWS
WAS THE PREPARATION FOR SUMMER
TWENTY TWENTY TWO ALSO THAT
WE DON'T REPEAT THE TWENTY
TWENTY SITUATION AND -- MAYBE
ELABORATE A LITTLE ON THE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT
OF THAT BLACK OUT ANALYSIS --
AND THEN -- I THINK WHAT WE
DIDN'T TALK ABOUT AND I COUNT
YET AS YOU HERE ON THE TWENTY
TWENTY TWO AND THIS AND THE
REASON I ASK THAT PRESENT
RENTALS OF IF THERE'S ANYTHING
OF I THINK OF PUBLIC CONCERN
OBVIOUSLY AS WERE IN THE SUMMER
AND WE'RE ALREADY EXPERIENCING
A PRETTY HOT WEATHER THAT
DOUBTS ON EVERYONE'S MINDS
ARE WE GETTING THROUGH WITHOUT
BLACKOUT SO THAT'S FINE A FEW
KINDA REPEAT SOME OF THE GOOD
NEWS THAT YOU HAD ON THAT AND
THEN WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE
NET TO ENSURE ENERGY METERING
I KNOW THAT THAT STILL BEFORE
ON THE COMMISSION IT MIGHT GIVE
US AN UPDATE ON WHEN WE MIGHT
HAVE A ON DECISION ON THAT
AND -- I THINK OUR THAT SHOULD
COVER MOST OF THE THINGS THAT
WE TALKED ABOUT AND THE ONE
THING THAT WE DID IT SO I'LL
LET YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AND --
I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE TO THE
PUBLIC THAT'S HERE AND MIGHT
BE ON THE PHONE OUR PRESIDENT
REYNOLDS DID AN EXCELLENT JOB
WE COVERED EVERYTHING ON THAT
HAS COME UP I CERTAINLY ON
INFORMATION -- AND CONCERNS THAT
HAVE BEEN REGISTERED IN LETTERS
THAT WE'VE RECEIVED WE COVERED
THOSE THAT OUR DISCUSSION AND I
FELT COMFORTABLE ARE THAT THEY
WERE BEING ADDRESSED AND DOG
I FELT THERE WAS IN IT -- VERY
VERY ODD HOW CAN I DESCRIBE A
VERY STRONG SINCERITY AND WHAT
PRESIDENT REYNOLDS SHE AIRED IN
TERMS OF HER OUR COMMITMENT
IN THIS POSITION WHICH IS A
VERY DIFFICULT ONE AND YOU HAVE
A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY THERE
SO I JUST WANTED THEM TO KNOW
THAT THAT TO A HALF AN HOUR WE
SPENT TOGETHER YESTERDAY I THINK
IT ACTUALLY PUSHED INTO FORTY
MINUTES BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE
LATE TO MY COMMITTEE AFTER
SO PLEASE PLEASE TAKE THE FLOOR
AND -- SHARE WITH US OF SOME
OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT
YESTERDAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SENATOR -- AND I STARTING
WITH THE FOR LIABILITY FOR THE
SUMMER SO TWENTY TWENTY TWO
RELIABILITY WHICH IS A VERY
IMPORTANT ISSUE I THINK IT'S
ON A LOT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS
ESPECIALLY AS WE SEE TEMPERATURE
STARTING TO RISE AND WE KEEP
IN MIND -- THE HISTORY OF
OUTAGES IN TWENTY TWENTY AND
I AM IN MY OPENING REMARKS I
THINK KIND OF IT HIGHLIGHTED
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE
BUT -- I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO
POINT OUT SOME REASONS FOR
OPTIMISM AS YOU NOTED --
STARTING WITH THEIR CLOSE
COLLABORATION THAT WE HAVE
UNDERTAKEN HERE IN CALIFORNIA
WITH ALL OF THE ENERGY AGENCIES
SO THAT THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION WORKS VERY CLOSELY
WITH THE ENERGY COMMISSION
AND THE INDEPENDENT SYSTEM
OPERATOR K. SO ALL OF THESE
AGENCIES HAVE DIFFERENT ROLES IN
RELIABILITY AND -- SO TOGETHER
WE WE WORK ON BEING PREPARED
AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
MOVING FORWARD ON OUR CLEAN
ENERGY TARGETS BUT THROUGH
THAT TRANSFORMATION BEING VERY
VERY FOCUSED ON RELIABILITY
DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS
-- THE ENERGY IN COMMISSION
IT COMMISSION PARTICULAR
PREPARES OUR LOAD FORECASTS
AND THOSE HAVE BEEN UPDATED
TO -- INCORPORATE WHAT WE
ANTICIPATE WILL WILL HAPPEN
I'M GIVEN CLIMATE CHANGE
IMPACTS AND EXTREME HEAT EVENTS
THAT WE ANTICIPATE -- -- --
SEEING AND THE NEXT FEW YEARS
THOSE -- FORECASTS ARE VERY
IMPORTANT TO THE QC WE TAKE
THEM INTO ACCOUNT AS WE DO
OUR -- INTEGRATED RESOURCE
PLAN PROCESS AND OUR RESOURCE
ADEQUACY PROCESS SO THAT WE
MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE LOAD
SERVING ENTITIES IN CALIFORNIA
THIS IS THE -- THE -- INTO
A INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES THE
COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATORS
OR CCAS AND THE DIRECT ACCESS
PROVIDERS TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY ARE ALL PLANNING FOR THE
FUTURE AS WELL AS BRINGING
RESOURCES -- AT TO COVER THEIR
LOAD EACH MONTH AND IN FACT
EVERY DAY OF EVERY YEAR AND
EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY --
AND SO I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE
IN A BETTER POSITION -- IN
TERMS OF RELIABILITY FOR THIS
SUMMER THEN WE WE WERE TWO
YEARS AGO WE HAVE MORE RESOURCES
ONLINE AND IN PARTICULAR --
SOURCES OF GENERATION TO HELP
US WITH THAT CRITICAL TIME OF
DAY WHEN ARE A VERY IMPORTANT
SOLAR FLEET IS -- GOING OFFLINE
BUT TEMPERATURES ARE STILL
HIGH AND PEOPLE ARE STILL
RUNNING AIR CONDITIONERS SO
WE DO HAVE A FEW DAYS OF THE
YEAR -- WHERE THAT THAT AT
THAT TIME PERIOD IS CRITICAL
FOR CALIFORNIA AND SO WE HAVE
-- ASIDE EIGHT IN THE PAST
FEW YEARS REALLY ACCELERATED
OUR EFFORTS TO BRING A NEW
CAPACITY ONLINE AND WE'VE SEEN
A TWENTY FOLD INCREASE FOR
EXAMPLE OF A BATTERY STORAGE
RESOURCES COME ONTO THE GRID IN
TWENTY TWENTY WE HAD ABOUT TWO
HUNDRED MEGAWATTS OF BATTERY
STORAGE AND THROUGH THE SUMMER
WE'LL HAVE ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND
MEGAWATTS AND SO THAT'S THAT
-- RESOURCE WILL BE VERY VERY
VALUABLE AS WE GO INTO THOSE
-- HOT SUMMER NIGHTS
-- AND EVENINGS -- SO
-- I WANTED TO NOTE THAT AS WELL
AS -- SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL
WORK THAT WE'VE DONE -- AND
REALLY IN AN EXPEDITED WAY IS TO
SHORE UP SOME OF OUR CONTINGENCY
MEASURES AND DO THE THINGS THAT
CAN BE DONE QUICKLY TO HELP US
WITH RELIABILITY SUCH AS DEMAND
RESPONSE AND SO WE HAVE VERY
REALLY INCREASED OUR DEMAND
RESPONSE PROGRAMS ACROSS THE
BOARD THE THE -- DEMAND RESPONSE
PROGRAMS THAT ARE ALREADY IN
PLACE WERE -- WERE KIND OF
DUSTED OFF AN IMPROVED AND THEN
NEW ONES WERE PUT INTO PLACE
AS WELL -- AND OF COURSE
-- AS WE DO THE PLANNING FOR
THIS SUMMER WE'RE ALSO PLANNING
FOR THE FUTURE -- IN THE PAST
FEW YEARS THE -- THAT HE
YOU SEE HAS ISSUED THE LARGEST
PROCUREMENT ORDERS AND HISTORY
THE HISTORY OF THE COMMISSION
WITH -- AT ORIGINAL ORDER OF
THIRTY THREE HUNDRED MEGAWATTS
IN TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN AND
THEN LAST YEAR IN ORDER
OF ELEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED
MEGAWATTS OF NEW RESOURCES THAT
NEED TO COME ONLINE IN THE NEXT
FEW YEARS -- TAKING US THROUGH
AS FAR AS A TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT
-- AND SO WE'RE REALLY WORKING
ON DEPLOYMENT OF THE PROJECTS
THAT WILL -- MAKE THAT PRETTY
THOSE PROCUREMENT ORDERS REAL
AND TRACKING THOSE PROJECTS --
THE SOLAR STORAGE -- WIND
BATTERY STORAGE SO ALL OF THOSE
ARE IN THE WORKS DEAL THERMAL
-- AND WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THOSE COME ON THE
GRID TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCES
THAT WE NEED IN CALIFORNIA SO
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE REALLY
HAPPENING AT ONCE -- AND SO
WE HAVE TO THINK LONG TERM TO
BE READY BECAUSE SOME OF THESE
PROJECTS HAVE VERY LONG LEAD
TIMES WE NEED TO WORK NOW --
AND THEN WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT
THIS SUMMER AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN
-- -- IF WE SEE UNANTICIPATED
EVENTS SUCH AS LARGE --
HE WEST WHITE HEAT WAVES --
SOMETIMES WILDFIRE EVENTS
IMPACT THE SYSTEM'S RELIABILITY
WE'RE ALSO IN A DROUGHT AND
SEWER HYDRO RESOURCES HAVE BEEN
IMPACTED -- I DID ONE TAKE
A MOMENT TO MENTION -- THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET PROPOSAL WHICH
I UNDERSTAND THE LEGISLATURE IS
CONSIDERING NOW IT DOES INCLUDE
A STRATEGIC RESERVE ENERGY
RESERVE -- THE IDEA OF THIS
ENERGY RESERVE IS THAT IT WON'T
IN ANY WAY SUPPLANT THE THINGS
THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SO
THE PUC'S NORMAL WORK TO BRING
PROJECTS ONLINE AND REALLY TO
TRANSFORM OUR ENERGY SYSTEM SO
THAT WE ARE MEETING OUR CLIMATE
GOALS -- BUT THIS EMERGENCY
RESERVE ACTS WILL ACT LIKE AN
INSURANCE POLICY AND SO ONLY
TO BE USED AS NECESSARY AND A
TEMPORARY WAY SO THAT WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD WITH -- THE ALL
THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR
OUR OUR SYSTEM AND TAKE US TO
THE FUTURE WITHOUT RUNNING INTO
INCIDENTS WHERE UNEXPECTED --
EVENTS HAPPEN WITH THE THE
IDEA IS TO HAVE AN INSURANCE
POLICY FOR THOSE WE DON'T
WANT TO SACRIFICE RELIABILITY
AS WE MOVE FORWARD -- SO
I WANTED TO BRIEFLY MENTION THAT
AS KIND OF A COMPLIMENT TO THE
IT WITH THE WORK THAT THE PSC
IS DOING TOWARDS PROGRESS FOR
PROGRESS TOWARDS OUR CLIMATE
TARGETS -- YOU ALSO MENTIONED
-- SOLAR -- NET ENERGY METERING
-- AND I WILL BRIEFLY MENTIONED
THAT AS YOU KNOW WE HAD WE
DO HAVE AN OPEN PROCEEDING
AND I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS
WHAT IS THE TIMING -- THAT
WE CAN EXPECT FOR DECISION
-- WE RECENTLY -- REQUESTED
-- IF FURTHER BRIEFING FROM
THE PARTIES SO WE HAVE BEEN
RECEIVING THAT WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WERE CAREFULLY
CONSIDERING ALL THE FILINGS AND
ALL COMMENTS -- THE BRIEFING
PERIOD IS STILL OPEN -- AND
WILL BE RECEIVING THE FINAL
BRIEFS AND THE NEXT WEEK
OR SO AND THEN WILL AND BE
WORKING ON -- PREPARATION OF
A PROPOSED DECISION FOLLOWING
THAT WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT
SKEWS ME OB FOR THE YOUR
RESPONSES AND VERY MUCH LIKE
OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY
SO AGAIN ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE
AND -- YOU WILL CERTAINLY
HAVE MY SUPPORT TOOL WE GET
TO OUR THE CONFIRMATION VOTE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR
THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR --
MISS REYNOLDS THANK YOU -- FOR
THAT EXPLANATION IT WAS REALLY
HELPFUL I DO WANNA ASK IN TERMS
OF SOME OF THE COMMENTS YOU
TALKED ABOUT BEING IN A BETTER
POSITION NOW THAN LAST YEAR
-- AND AND YOU DID REFERENCE
THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL
ON THE TRAILER BILL SO --
IT IS UPPERMOST IN OUR MINDS
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING
AT THIS TONIGHT THERE'S BEEN
A LOT OF DISCUSSION BETWEEN
THE LEGISLATURE AND THE
ADMINISTRATION PARTICULARLY
SOME MEMBERS OF OF
BOTH THE ASSEMBLY AND SENATE I'M
AWARE SO WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT
I HAVE DONE MORE BETTER PREPARED
ARE RELATED TO DEMAND RESPONSE
PROCUREMENT AND THEN AND THEN
PROCUREMENT SEPARATELY ON SOLAR
STORAGE WIND GEOTHERMAL EXCEPT
TRUCK HAPPENING ALL AT ONCE SO
AND ANY MENTION THE STRATEGIC
ENERGY RESERVE I GUESS I NEED
TO KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE BIT
BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND MAYBE
-- GIVE IN LIGHT OF THE PEOPLE
THAT REACHED OUT TO TO THE
RULES COMMITTEE ABOUT THESE
APPOINTMENTS HOW IF
THAT IS TRUE THEN SOME OF THE
ITEMS IN THE TRAILER BILL SEEM
TO -- REALLY
-- LOOK AT EXISTING
RULES AROUND SYKORA AROUND
-- THE COOLING
A YOU KNOW THE THE COASTAL
COOLING SYSTEMS AROUND WHILE --
IT JUST THE THE PLANTS I
MEAN THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS
IN THE IN THE TRAILER BILL
AND AND I DIDN'T BRING IT DOWN
WITH ME -- TODAY BUT
I I THINK I NEED TO TO SPEAK A
LITTLE MORE BECAUSE THE TRAILER
BILL OF SOME ITEMS WITHIN THE
TRAILER BILL SEEM TO BE PRETTY
SERIOUS DEPARTURES FROM EXISTING
POLICY REGULATIONS SO IF WE WERE
BETTER PREPARED THAN EVER YET
YOU KNOW THESE ARE THINGS BEING
ASKED BY THE ADMINISTRATION
SO THAT WE ARE ABLE NOT TO
HAVE TO DEAL WITH R. BROWNOUTS
AND BLACKOUTS AND ALL OF THAT
GOING INTO THE SUMMER SO HELP
ME UNDERSTAND WHY THESE THINGS
ARE CRITICALLY NEEDED NOW
AND I GUESS I SHOULD'VE ASKED
IF HE I MEAN HOW INTIMATELY
AWARE ARE YOU WITH THE PROPOSED
BUDGET TRAILER BILL I MEAN I
SHOULD NOT ASSUME YOU'RE THE
CHAIR OF THE P. U. C. C. P.
U. C. -- THE ADMINISTRATION
IS OVER HERE TOO AND -- OTHER
ACTIONS RELATED TO OUR BUDGET
SO GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE MEAT
ON THIS BONE IF YOU WILL HELP ME
UNDERSTAND WHY -- AS
WE APPROACH TONIGHT YOUR ROLE AT
THE P. YOU SEE AND HOW THIS WILL
BE ASSIST FURTHER ASSISTANCE
WAS AND WHY IT IS SO I'M
NECESSARY RIGHT NOW THAT WE GET
THIS DONE NOW VERSUS AUGUST
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION I DO
AGREE THAT -- THE ISSUE WOULD
BENEFIT FROM FURTHER EXPLANATION
AND SO I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS THE
QUESTIONS -- THAT YOU'VE RAISED
AND WILL CERTAINLY DO IT FROM
THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE C. P. U.
C. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER
WITH OTHER AGENCIES AS I
MENTIONED ON SUMMER RELIABILITY
-- SO I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE
PROPOSALS -- AND THAT THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET PROPOSAL AND
I HATED IT WE DID THE P. C.
DOES NOT IMPLEMENT ALL OF THOSE
PROPOSALS BUT I'LL SPEAK TO
THEM FROM A AT A CQC PERSPECTIVE
AND I THINK IT YOU KNOW YOU'RE
THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION
SENATORS ON -- THAT US BEING
IN A BETTER POSITION AND MY
COMMENTS -- IN RESPONSE TO
SENATOR BATES QUESTION AND
SO LET ME I I WOULD LIKE TO
EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE
-- WE DO HAVE MORE RESOURCES
AT OUR DISPOSAL SO IN OTHER
WORDS I RESOURCES STACK IS IN
BETTER SHAPE BUT AT THE SAME
TIME THE -- FORECASTS THAT
THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED ON DEMAND
HAS GONE UP AND SO WE'RE AT A
PLACE WHERE -- IT TRADITIONALLY
OVER THE YEARS THE WAY THAT THE
CQC'S PROCESS HAS WORKED IS THAT
WE PLAN -- ARE PLANNING IS
BASED ON -- TRENDS THAT WE'VE
SEEN IN THE PAST SO WE LOOK
BACKWARDS TRADITIONALLY LOOK
BACKWARDS AT WHAT HAVE WE SEEN
OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND
THAT'S WHAT'S USED TO PROJECT
OUT AS TO WHAT WE NEED FOR
ENERGY SYSTEM FOR THE FUTURE
WE KNOW NOW THAT WE HAVE TO
THINK ABOUT THINGS DIFFERENTLY
BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING CONDITIONS
THAT ARE MUCH WORSE THAN WHAT
WE SAW IN THE PAST AND THEY'RE
VERY HARD TO PREDICT AND SO
EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
HARD SINCE TWENTY TWENTY AND
WE ARE IN A BETTER POSITION
WE'RE ALSO SEEING CONDITIONS
THAT ARE MORE EXTREME AND IN
SOME CASES MORE BIT BIGGER
STRAIN ON THE ENERGY SYSTEM
THAN WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST TWO
YEARS EVEN -- AND WE KNOW WE
NEED TO BE READY FOR THOSE AND
-- SO IT IT'S MORE A AND
IN THE CATER THAT WE'VE WE'VE
LEARNED THAT WE HAVE TO BE
PREPARED FOR WORST CASE AND
WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT THE WORST
CASE IS MORE IS WORSE THAN
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST
-- AND THE OTHER POINT IS THAT
-- WE KNOW THAT AS WE MOVE
FORWARD FOR CLEAN AND TO
IN OUR CLEAN ENERGY GOALS
WE NEED TO ENSURE RELIABILITY
AND SO IN CALIFORNIA IN ORDER
TO SUCCEED ON EVERYTHING THAT
WE'VE WORKING WE'RE WORKING
FOR FOR CLIMATE CHANGE FOR
EFFORTS AND ELECTRIFICATION
WHERE WE KNOW THAT OUR ARCH
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IS MOVING
TOWARDS ELECTRIFICATION OUR
BUILDINGS ARE MOVING TOWARDS
ELECTRIFICATION AS WE DO THAT
WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE
RELIABLE SERVICES AND SO
WHAT IS SO CRITICAL ABOUT THE
BUDGET PACKAGE IS THAT INSURANCE
-- AND THE INSURANCE I WILL
WILL WILL TAKE US THROUGH THIS
TRANSITION PERIOD THE INTENT
OF IT IS TO TAKE US THROUGH
SAID THAT WE HAVE WE'RE NOT
GETTING IN THE WAY OF THE
THE TRANSFORMATION THAT WE'RE
WORKING ON BUT WERE HAVE WE HAVE
SOME MEASURES THAT CAN BE USED
AS A LAST RESORT SO KIND OF A
-- LAST ON FIRST OFF RESOURCES
-- THAT WILL COMPLEMENT
ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE
DOING AS WE MOVE FORWARD --
SO IT'S YES A BETTER PRESIDENT'S
POSITION BUT ALSO A RECOGNITION
THAT THE CONTINGENCIES --
THAT WE NEED EXTRA INSURANCE TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THROUGH
THE EXTREME EVENTS -- YOU ALSO
MENTIONED THAT ONCE THROUGH
COOLING PLANTS THE GAS PLANTS
ON THE COAST THAT THAT RELY
ON A COOLING SYSTEM PROMOTION
WATER -- THOSE --
ARE AN A A PART OF THE SYSTEM
NOW AND THE THE THE
THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE
ON CLEAN ENERGY MEANS THAT
THEY'VE THEY'RE USED LESS AND
LESS AND -- THE GOAL WILL BE TO
CONTINUE TO USE THEM LESS AND
LESS BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE
STILL NEED THEM FOR THE SYSTEM
-- THAT THAT THE CONCEPT AND
AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING
THAT -- YOU KNOW IT THEY SAID
THIS IS PART OF THE PACKAGE
IS NOT NECESSARILY A QC ISSUE
BUT I THINK THE CONCEPT IS
THAT WE NEED TO BE READY --
WITH NEW RESOURCES BEFORE WE
LET -- EXISTING RESOURCES GO
SO AGAIN KIND OF CONTINGENCY
MEASURES -- RUNNING A GAS
PLANT IF YOU OUT OUR IS WHEN
WE NEED IT IS MUCH BETTER THAN
BUILDING A NEW GAS PLANT --
AND -- THE THE ADDITIONAL ISSUE
THAT YOU RAISED WAS SEQUEL AND
REALLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW
AND THE CAREFUL REVIEW THAT WE
NEED TO DO FOR PROJECTS MOVING
FORWARD -- AND THAT YOU
KNOW I THINK THAT THAT THE ONE
WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS THAT
WE DO NEED TO EXPEDITE PROJECTS
WE NEED TO GET -- I
KNEW RESOURCES ONLINE FOR THE
FOR THE FUTURE -- AND WE ALSO
NEED TO DO CAREFUL ENVIRONMENTAL
REVIEW AND ENGAGEMENT WITH
STAKEHOLDERS ENGAGEMENT WITH
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS -- AND AND
ALL INTERESTED GROUPS I'M
IN AND THAT THE THE PART OF THE
PACKAGE THAT DEALS WITH SI QUIEN
PERMITTING AGAIN IS NOT PART
OF THE IT'S IT'S NOT UNDER THE
CPUC BUT THE WAY I VIEW IT AS
THAT IT'S HELPFUL TO EXPEDITE
THE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED FOR
CLEAN ENERGY AND THEN BUILDS
AND PROTECTIONS FOR RESOURCES
-- AND -- ENGAGEMENT WITH
STAKEHOLDERS THAT THE CDC WILL
BE -- A IS THE LEAD
AGENCY FOR THE CITING THAT'S
PROPOSED IN THE THE TRAILER
BILL THEY HAVE CURRENT CITING
AUTHORITY FOR SOME PROJECTS AND
SO I SEE THAT AS AN EXTENSION
THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THAT AND
I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW THIS
IS CALIFORNIA WEAKENED -- WE
CAN COMBAT CONSIDER IMPACTS AND
MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF
THE ENVIRONMENT AT THE SAME TIME
IS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH
THESE REALLY CRITICAL PROJECTS
FOR ENERGY SYSTEM I APPRECIATE
THAT AND AMOUNT OF FOLLOW ALONG
THERE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU
HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN IN
THIS AREA AND FOR THOSE
THAT TALK ABOUT -- THE CPUC
THE ROLE OF THE CPUC THE ROLE
OF THE ENERGY COMMISSION THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION
AND THE ROLE OF CAL I SO
YOU KNOW THERE THERE IS --
AWAY WHICH YOU ALL HAVE TO SORT
OF WORK TOGETHER YOU'RE NOT
THE SAME YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL
FUNCTIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES
I'M AWARE OF THAT I THINK
SO IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO
DIFFERENTIATE AND SO WHAT FALLS
UNDER WHERE -- BUT YOU HAVE A
LONG HISTORY IN TERMS OF YOUR
WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION
AND AND DIFFERENT HATS SO
HELP ME YOU YOU REFERENCE
SEQUEL AND I APPRECIATE YOU
TALKING ABOUT THAT IN THE
AND AND CERTAINLY THE ARM
I THE ROLE OF SEEK WHAT
IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND
CITING NEW -- FACILITIES
WHETHER THEIR OFFSHORE WIND
SOLAR OUR OUR PLANTS --
HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE
PUBLIC IN TERMS OF AND YOU ALSO
MENTIONED THE PLANTS AND AND
WHEN YOU NEED TO TURN THEM ON
IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE TO YOU KNOW
TO HAVE EXISTING PLANTS INTO THE
SITE AND BUILD NEW ONES BUT BUT
TO PULL THE SEQUEL A PIECE OF
THIS TOGETHER WITH THE PLANTS
HOW DO WE ASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT
THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE
WHEN THEY NEED TO BE DONE TO
ENSURE RELIABILITY -- OVERALL
HOW DOES THAT BALANCE ARE OUT
ARE THOSE ISSUES OF PROTECTION
THAT SEQUEL GIVES AND IN
ADDITION -- I'M
JUST JUST THE CONCERN
THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO USE
OUR FACILITIES RESOURCES AND
TOOLS THAT SORT OF WORK AGAINST
OUR GOALS ARE ON --
EMISSIONS EXCEPT FOR A SOAK HOW
DO YOU ASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT
IT WATER THE PROTECTIONS IN
PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THE PLANTS
ARE ONLINE WHEN THEY NEED TO BE
IN YOUR NOT JUST YOU KNOW KIND
OF GET A LITTLE EXTRA THAT YOU
YOU KNOW DON'T IT JUST DOESN'T
BECOME A PERFORMANCE THAT THESE
PLANTS CONTINUE TO OPERATE
EXISTS IN THE WAYS THAT WE WERE
HOPING TO LIMIT THEIR --
GOING FORWARD AS WE DEVELOP NEW
TECHNOLOGIES AND GET NEW THINGS
ONLINE THAT THAT -- ARE CLEANER
IT -- IT'S A REALLY GOOD
QUESTION BECAUSE IT DOES BRING
IN A INTO PLAYED THE KIND
OF WEB OF AUTHORITIES THAT WE
HAVE AND THE DIFFERENT PROCESS
THAT CAUSES THAT COMPLEMENT
EACH OTHER -- I'LL START
BY SAYING THAT WITH ALL OF
THESE DECISIONS IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT TO HAVE A PUBLIC
PROCESS AND SO AT EACH POINT --
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
DECISION MAKING ISN'T BEING MADE
TRANSPARENTLY AND WITH -- A ROLE
FOR THE PUBLIC WITH RESPECT TO
THE -- ONCE THROUGH COOLING
PLANTS -- THE DECISIONS ABOUT
THEIR -- HEY THAT THAT WILL
ONE POINT ONE DECISION POINT
ABOUT THEIR EXTENSION IS
MADE THROUGH THE WATER BOARD
WITH THE MULTI AGENCY PROCESS
INFORMING THAT DECISION --
AND -- AND THEN THAT SO THAT'S A
THAT'S ONE PLACE FOR ENGAGEMENT
WHERE THE WATER BOARD CONSISTS
CONSIDERS ITS PROTECTIONS BUT IS
INFORMED BY THE ENERGY AGENCIES
WHO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT
WHAT IS NEEDED BY RELIABILITY
BUT BACKING UP A LITTLE
BIT I THINK YOU'RE REALLY
GETTING TO THE CORE OF --
AT AT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE
NOT JUST KEEPING THESE PLANTS
ON LONGER THAN YOU KNOW THAN
THEY SHOULD BE BECAUSE WE NEVER
GET TO A PROCESS WHERE WE'RE
ABLE TO LISTEN TO ALTERNATIVES
AND DEVELOP ALTERNATIVES AND
AND THEN WE NEED TO ENGAGE THE
PUBLIC IN THAT -- SAID THE
ENERGY PORTFOLIOS AND THE
DECISIONS ABOUT -- CONTRACTS FOR
RELIABILITY AS WELL AS CONTRACTS
FOR THAT CAPACITY GOING FORWARD
-- ARE ARE DRIVEN BY THE T.
UC'S PROCEEDINGS -- AND THE
INTEGRATED RESOURCES PLAN AND
THE RESOURCE ADEQUACY PROCEEDING
-- AND SO WITH THOSE PROCEEDINGS
ALL OF THE LOAD SERVING ENTITIES
NEED TO COME FORWARD WITH PLANS
-- AND SO THEY SAY HER THE
RESOURCES THAT WE'RE GOING TO
HERE'S THE PROCUREMENT THAT
WE'RE GOING TO DO TO MEET OUR
CLEAN ENERGY GOALS AND AS THEY
MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT LONG TERM
PROCUREMENT THEY ALSO HAS TO
SHOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO COVER
THEIR LOAD IN THE NEAR TERM --
AND PROVIDE A RESOURCE ADEQUACY
FOR THE SYSTEM -- AND SO THERE'S
A SERIES OF CONTRACTS THAT THEY
ENTER INTO FOR NEW PROJECTS
OF NEW PROJECTS ARE PART OF THAT
IT IS IS IT IS IN MANY TIMES
FOR INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLANS
THOSE PROJECTS WOULD GO THROUGH
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW -- AND
WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF
THAT THERE MIGHT BE A CONTRACT
WITH A LOAD SERVING ENTITY SCCA
OR AN INVESTOR OWNED UTILITY
BUT THE PROJECT HAS A PROCESS
FOR OFFSHORE WIND YOU MENTION
OFFSHORE IN MY UNDERSTANDING
IS THAT THERE ARE THIRTY TWO
PERMITS REQUIRED OVER THIRTY
PERMITS REQUIRED FOR OFFSHORE
WIND FACILITIES -- APPROVALS
NOT NECESSARILY ALL PERMITS --
AND AND AND MY EXPECTATION WOULD
BE THAT THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC
PROCESS FOR THROUGH ALL OF THOSE
-- THE STATE I AM HAS BEEN
DOING IT HAS BEEN TRYING TO
COORDINATE THAT EFFORT SO
THAT -- THE COMMENTS CAN BE
CONSOLIDATED THE LEGISLATURE
PROVIDED SOME GUIDANCE IN AB
FIVE TWENTY FIVE -- SO
THAT PROCESS IS MOVING FORWARD
WITH STUDIES BEING DONE THE
COASTAL COMMISSION IS INVOLVED
-- FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE INVOLVED
AND SO WITH EACH PROJECT
THERE'S A PERMITTING PROCESS
AND A REVIEW PROCESS SO THAT'S
KIND OF HOW THE THE WEB FITS
TOGETHER -- AND REALLY COMES
DOWN TO PROJECT BY PROJECT
WE NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS
ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF THOSE
PROJECTS THANK YOU --
I HAVE WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY
CENTER COME LONGER I HOPE YOU'VE
HAD A MINUTE TO GET ADJUSTED
I AND I HAVE ALREADY INFORMED
THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE MOVING
BETWEEN MULTIPLE COMMITTEES AND
BILL PRESENTATION SO THEY'RE
AWARE OF THAT -- WITH THAT I'LL
TURN IT OVER TO YOU SENATOR
FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
THANK YOU MADAM PRO TEM AND I
DO APOLOGIZE FOR COMING IN --
AFTER THAT THANK COMMITTEE
STARTED AND I WANT TO THANK --
AND OUR NOMINEE FOR
GRANTING ME SOMETIME
EARLIER TODAY I I JUST HAVE
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND
WE WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF
THESE EARLIER CELLS AND AND
CERTAINLY I'M I'M NOT PLANNING
TO CATCH YOU UNAWARES --
AS YOU ARE AWARE --
ANNA AND I'VE BEEN TOLD BY MANY
CONSTITUENTS THAT THAT P. YOU
SEE -- HAS NOT BEEN COMPLYING
WITH THE SEVENTY FIVE DAY
DEADLINE TO REIMBURSE ADVOCACY
GROUPS FOR THEIR EFFORTS AT
REPRESENTING MARGINALIZED
COMMUNITIES WHO DON'T HAVE
THE RESOURCES TO PARTICIPATE
IN YOUR PROCEEDINGS -- AND
WE KNOW THAT THESE GROUPS ARE
REALLY ESSENTIAL TO THE PROCESS
AND THAT THEY ARE GENERALLY
NONPROFITS WHO RELY ON THESE
FUNDS AND -- THERE
ARE A NUMBER
OF INTERVENOR COMPENSATION
REQUESTS THAT -- HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED AND WOULD JUST LIKE
TO HEAR FROM YOU ABOUT SORT OF
THE BACKLOG AND THE STAFFING
THAT IS REQUIRED TO MANAGE THESE
AND -- YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW
THE P. YOU SEE -- IS WORKING
THROUGH THIS THANK YOU SENATOR
-- AT IT I APPRECIATE THIS DOES
THE QUESTION AND AS WE DISCUSSED
THIS MORNING IT IS A CONCERN
I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT
AS WELL -- THE INTERVENOR
COMPENSATION PROGRAM AND I'LL
START WITH A LITTLE BIT OF
BACKGROUND AND IF YOU SEE HAS
A PROGRAM TO COMPENSATE WINTER
COLD INTERVENERS IN THEIR
PROCEEDINGS I BELIEVE THAT IT
IS UNIQUE AND STATE GOVERNMENT
SO THAT WHEN PARTY'S PARTICIPATE
AND PROCEEDINGS THEY CAN
ACTUALLY GET COMPENSATION FOR
THEIR TIME -- BUT
AS PART OF THAT WE ARE ALWAYS
MINDFUL THAT THE COMPENSATION
IS A PUBLIC FUNDS THESE ARE
THIS IS FUNDING FROM RATE
PAYERS AND SO WE ARE AT THE P.
YOU SEE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THE
REVIEW OF THE CLAIMS AND THERE
ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT
NEED TO BE MET BEFORE AN AWARD
OF COMPENSATION CAN BE MADE
GIVEN THAT WERE PROTECTIVE OF
IMPACTS ON RATEPAYERS THAT
SAID WE DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT
BACKLOG OF THE CLAIMS AT THE P.
YOU SEE THAT WAS PRESENT WHEN
I STARTED IN JANUARY --
IT THAT WE SAW A. N. UP T.
TECH AND CLAIMS -- AND
THE STAFF IN THE UNIT -- THE
ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE UNIT AT
THE P. YOU SEE THAT HANDLES THIS
CLAIM -- CLAIMS WAS NOT DID
NOT RECEIVE A CORRESPONDING
INCREASE SO INCREASING CLAIMS
WITHOUT A CORRESPONDING INCREASE
IN STAFF AND A BACKLOG TO
DEVELOP -- SINCE I HAVE BEEN AT
THE P. YOU SEE I'VE BEEN TRYING
TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESSING AND
AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT
PUTTING UP BARRIERS AND TO THE
TO THE PROCESSING OF CLAIMS
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INCREASE
THE PACE SOMEWHAT SINCE I'VE
BEEN THERE -- -- BUT WE DIDN'T
REALLY RECOGNIZE THAT FURTHER
RESOURCES WERE NEEDED AND --
HAVE JUST RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR
THE NEW CAPACITY IN THE UNIT
THAT PROCESSES I COMP CLAIMS
THROUGH THIS YEAR'S BUDGET SO
WE WILL BE MOVING SWIFTLY TO
FILL THOSE POSITIONS GIVEN THE
IMPORTANCE OF THIS ISSUE AND
-- AND AND I WILL CONTINUE
TO WATCH -- I UNDERSTAND YOUR
CONCERN AND IT'S VERY HELPFUL
OUR CONVERSATION WAS VERY
HELPFUL I IT'S SOMETHING THAT
I WILL KEEP AN EYE ON THANK
YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE AS OF
JUNE SIXTH TWENTY TWENTY TWO
I HAVE TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN
-- -- INTERVENOR COMPENSATION
REQUESTS AND MANY OF THEM ARE
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT
DO REALLY GOOD WORK AND SO
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
YOU TO COMMUNICATE WITH --
-- THE LEGISLATURE AND ALSO
YOUR STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT THE
SUPPORT THAT THE COMMISSION
NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
BACKLOGS ARE BEING ADDRESSED
BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO BE
AS ACCESSIBLE AND TRANSPARENT
TO THE PUBLIC AS POSSIBLE
YOU KNOW MY LAST QUESTION
WHICH -- HELLO AND THANKS
TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR ASKING
US SOME QUESTIONS AROUND THAT
ENERGY METERING I SAID IF
THAT WAS ANNOUNCED I WOULD ASK
YOU BUT NOW I DON'T HAVE TO
-- YOU KNOW I THINK
I AM INTERESTED IN YOUR RESPONSE
TO HOW YOU CREATE THE BALANCE
BETWEEN YOUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE CONSUMERS IN YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UTILITIES
I THINK -- FROM
THE BLEAT FOLKS IN THE GENERAL
PUBLIC ASSUME WERE MIGHT
INTERPRET I'M THERE TO BE
A STRONGER RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE UTILITIES AND THE CONSUMERS
AND HOW DO YOU WORK TO BE MORE
TRANSPARENT -- AND TO BE MORE
EDUCATION ORIENTED OR OUTWARD
FACING FOR A COMMUNITY
GROUPS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC
THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN
THE COMMISSION AND ITS WORK
ARE INCREDIBLY INTERESTED IN
ISSUES AROUND -- -- ENERGY
RELIABILITY -- HAVE NUMEROUS
STORIES AROUND -- YOU KNOW
WILDFIRES AND RESILIENCY AND
HOW WE CONTINUE TO WHETHER THESE
KINDS OF STORMS IN CALIFORNIA
-- THAT WILL ALSO KEEP PEOPLE
ALIVE KEEP PEOPLE SHELTERED
AND NOT CONTINUE TO DO SOME OF
THE DAMAGE THAT WE HAVE SEEN
IN SOME COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE
STATE AS IT RELATES TO UTILITIES
-- SOMEHOW WHAT ARE YOUR
THOUGHTS ON HOW TO NAVIGATE --
THE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT
BALANCE AND HOW TO BE MORE
TRANSPARENT SO THAT YOU'RE
ABLE TO CREATE MORE TRUST WITH
THE NUMBER OF -- YOU KNOW THE
ADVOCATES AND FOLKS IN THIS
SPACE WHO REALLY WANT TO SEE
THE COMMISSION AS A PARTNER
THANK YOU YES THE THE L. A.
I THINK I'LL START WITH THE
SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION
WHICH IS ABOUT INCREASING
TRANSPARENCY AND AND
PARTICIPATION WHICH IS VERY
IMPORTANT TO ME I THINK THE
THE THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO DO
A BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING
THE REASONS FOR ITS DECISIONS
AND WHAT IT'S DOING -- AND
AND AND PROACTIVELY REACH OUT
TO THE PUBLIC -- RATHER THAN
DOING ITS WORK -- GOING THROUGH
ITS ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDINGS
AND WAITING FOR THE PUBLIC TO
SHOW UP AND AND FIGURE OUT ARE
VERY COMPLEX PROCESS AND
SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
ON MY MIND AND I I WOULD LIKE
TO WORK ON I WOULD LIKE TO GET
INPUT PUT FROM COMMUNITIES AS
WE THINK ABOUT SOLUTIONS SO THAT
WE'RE NOT JUST CREATING A WHAT
WE THINK IS THE BEST SOLUTION
BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY REACHING OUT
AND AND GETTING INPUT TO TO FIND
OUT WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND
-- SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
I WANT TO FOCUS ON WE HAVE THE
COMMISSION AS A WHOLE HAS BEEN
DOING MORE COMMUNITY MEETINGS
MORE OUTREACH TO THE PUBLIC --
I THINK THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE
DONE AND AND THEN I THINK THERE
ARE ALSO WAYS THAT WE COULD
DO A BETTER JOB OF EXPLAINING
WHAT WE'RE DOING AS WE DO IT SO
THAT IT'S EASIER FOR COMMUNITY
MEMBERS TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR
DECISIONS IMPACT -- AND PROVIDE
INPUT TO US -- AND THEN
I THINK YOU'RE THE FIRST PART
OF YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE
BALANCE -- WITH THE UTILITIES
SO I VIEW THE UTILITIES THAT
ARE ARE REGULATED ENTITIES SO
WE WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS OF THEM
-- AND AND PROCEDURES THAT
GOVERN THEIR ABILITY TO GET COST
RECOVERY -- IF THAT GOVERN THEIR
THEIR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND SO
WITH IN MY VIEW THEY'RE THE ONES
THAT THAT THAT WE THAT THEY COME
TO OUR PROCEEDINGS AND HAVE TO
MEET THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT
WE IMPOSE ON THEM AND IF WE DID
THEY DON'T WE DO COMPLIANCE AND
ENFORCEMENT WORK THE ADVOCATES
AND IN PARTICULAR THE RATEPAYER
ADVOCATES ARE REALLY ARE
PARTNERS IN THAT WORK AND THEY
COME TO US WITH INFORMATION
THAT WE CAN USE FOR DECISION
MAKING AND IT'S VERY VERY
IMPORTANT FOR OUR PROCESS --
SO IT'S SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH
IT IS A BALANCE BUT IT'S
ALSO A DIFFERENT ROLE IN
APPROACH TO THE UTILITIES
VERSUS OUR STAKEHOLDERS
SENATOR THANK YOU --
WHILE SENATOR GROVE BY
GETS ACCLIMATED LET ME CAN
I JUST ADD ON AND ASKS ONE
QUESTION IN THIS SINCE WE ALSO
HAVE -- INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE
FOR -- CAL I A SO I WILL ASK
THIS QUESTION LATER AS WELL
TO GET YOUR RESPONSE BUT
WE DID THAT YOU KNOW IN TERMS
OF THE COMMUNICATION WE GET
FROM THE PUBLIC THERE WAS ONE
QUESTION AND YOU TALKED ABOUT
SOME OF THIS IN YOUR OPENING
COMMENTS AND OTHER QUESTIONS BUT
RELATED TO THE ROLLING BLACKOUT
CONDITIONS -- TWO SUMMERS AGO
THERE WAS ALLEGATION
BY SOME THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE
ENERGY TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO
CONSUMERS AND THAT UTILITIES
WERE ALLOWED TO SELL ENERGY
OUT OF STATE WHILE PARTS OF
CALIFORNIA HAD NO LIGHTS OR AIR
CONDITIONING I'D BE INTERESTED
IN WHAT ROLE IF ANY THE CPUC
HAD THEIR VERSUS CAL AYE SO
AND DID YOU HAVE ANY ABILITY TO
MONITOR NO THAT IS THAT IS THIS
A TRUE STATEMENT OR IS IT JUST
-- IT SO I'LL I'LL TALK
ABOUT IT FROM A CPUC PERSPECTIVE
AND I'M SURE THE APPOINTEES FOR
AYE SO CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL
I'M JUST FOR BACKGROUND --
CALIFORNIA IS PART OF A WEST
WIDE SYSTEM SO THANKFULLY
WE ARE NOT AND ISLANDS LIKE
TEXAS AND WE ACTUALLY DO I
HAVE WE HAVE IMPORTS AND EXPORTS
OF ENERGY ACROSS OUR STATE
LINES EVERY DAY -- AND IT'S
VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR SYSTEM IN
GENERAL -- WE HAVE NET IMPORTS
COMING INTO CALIFORNIA WE DO
RELY ON THOSE TO COVER OUR LOAD
AND HISTORICALLY WE'VE DONE SO
-- I IT SOMETIMES THEY'RE
GREATER THAN OTHERS AND DURING
WEST WHITE HEAT WAVES -- THERE
ARE FEWER IMPORTS AVAILABLE
-- MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AND
TWENTY TWENTY DURING THE --
OUTAGES WE WE STILL HAD NET
IMPORTS INTO THE SYSTEM SO
IN OTHER WORDS THERE ALTHOUGH
THERE WERE IT WAS CERTAINLY
EXPERTS GOING OUT THEIR IMPORTS
COMING IN AND THAT'S IN THE
NORMAL WAY THAT THE SYSTEM WORKS
OKAY SO THAT YOU COMING
IN BUT AS IT RELATES TO THE
BLACKOUTS FROM IF WE HAD IMPORTS
COMING IN IT THEY WEREN'T
NECESSARILY AVAILABLE OR THERE
WERE OTHER CONDITIONS THAT
FACTORED INTO THE BLACKOUTS
PARTICULARLY IN THE NORTHERN
PART OF THAT THE STATE SO
-- AND AND THERE ARE VARIOUS
FACTORS THAT WENT INTO THE
ROOT CAUSE ANALYSIS OKAY OF
THOSE BLACKOUTS BUT THIS MAY
BE A SIMPLE WAY TO SAY IT
IS THAT IT WASN'T ENOUGH AND
SO WHEN THE MARKET SETTLES
IMPORTS EXPORTS GET DETERMINED
OF WHO'S GONNA GET WHAT AND
WHO'S WHAT WHAT THE LOAD IS
GOING TO BE COVERED WHERE
-- AND AND NORMALLY WHEN THE
MARKET SETTLES WE HAVE ENOUGH
TO COVER LOADING CALIFORNIA
OTHER EVENTS -- IMPACTED
THE ABILITY THROUGHOUT THE
DAY TO COVER THAT LOAD AND SO
-- THAT THERE WERE UNEXPECTED
EVENTS AND WHEN IT CAME TO THAT
EVENING TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE WE
WE WORRIED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE
ENOUGH AND SAID THE LIVE CHAT
EVENTS HAPPENED OKAY THANK YOU
THAT'S VERY HELPFUL -- SENATOR
GROWTH THANK YOU MADAM PRO TEM
I HAD TO PRESENT A BILL AND
I HAVE ANOTHER COMMITTEE SO I
DO APOLOGIZE I MISS REYNOLDS
FOR NOT BEING HERE YOUR WHOLE
-- TESTIMONY AND IF I ASK
DEEPER QUESTIONS I DO APOLOGIZE
AND THEM PLEASE FORGIVE ME IN
ADVANCE I WAS READING AN LA
TIMES ARTICLE AND JUST LAST
NIGHT I GUESS EARLY THIS MORNING
THERE'S AN ENERGY BILL COMING
UP THIS AFTERNOON POSSIBLY FOR A
VOTE AND -- THERE'S A
LOT OF QUESTIONS I GUESS
THAT'S THIS QUESTION SHOULD
BE DIRECTED TO THE ISO BUT
POSSIBLY YOU AND THE I SO DIDN'T
MAKE A COMMENT -- ON THIS BILL
ONLY TO SAY THAT THEY
WERE THERE ARE COMMENTS WERE
JUST TECHNICAL IN NATURE
IT AND THIS PARTICULAR PIECE
OF LEGISLATION WILL GIVE THE
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES
IN THE CPUC THE ABILITY TO
-- APPROVES ED SOLAR PROJECTS
AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE YOU
FAMILIAR WITH THAT -- MY WRONG
SO IT -- I AM FAMILIAR
WITH SOME PARTS FROM THE PC
PERSPECTIVE OF THE BUDGET
PACKAGE I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S
NEW AUTHORITY FOR THE PC TO
APPROVE PROJECTS SO IT'S NOT
READY FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
WATER RESOURCES THERE'S A
THIRTY FOR THE DEPARTMENT WATER
RESOURCES AS WELL AS THE C.
P. U. C. C. P. C. OKAY TO HAVE
CITING AUTHORITY OVER PRICED
AT SORRY I'M SORRY I JUST OF
THE SEA THE CVC THE CVC ENERGY
COMMISSION RIGHT AND SO THAT'S
NOT WHY IF THAT'S WHAT'S NOT
SQUARELY WITHIN YOU KNOW WITHIN
YOUR PURVIEW RIGHT OKAY THEN
I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH
THANK YOU IT ALL HAPPENED SO
FAST ABSOLUTELY RYCHLAK LOOKING
OUT AS IN RUNNING AROUND LIKE
A CHICKEN WITH MY HEAD CUT OFF
BETWEEN COMMITTEES I APOLOGIZE
SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY
TALKED ABOUT THE EXCESSIVE HEAT
WARNING CENTER AND THAT ARE NOT
UNCOMMON IN MY DISTRICT -- I
DON'T THINK ANYBODY TALK ABOUT
MY DISTRICT BUT I KNOW THAT THEY
HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS A LOT
OF TIMES -- IN THEIR DISTRICTS
SPECIFICALLY LOS ANGELES SICK
IT'S JUST AS HOT AS IT IS IN THE
CENTRAL VALLEY AND WE THINK IT'S
CRITICAL -- IN SOME CASES WE
HAVE TO OFFER AND COLLEEN AT
PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND
GET COOLEY BECAUSE A LOT OF
TIMES AND THE COST OF RUNNING
AN AIR CONDITIONER IT AND WE
WE LIVE IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY
CAN'T JUST LIKE OPEN A WINDOW
LIKE YOU CAN ON THE COAST IN
COOLOCK THANK YOU VERY MUCH M.
I'M SO I GUESS IT'S SOMETIMES
LITERALLY AND I'M NOT TRYING
TO OVER EXAGGERATE BUT IT'S
LIKE A LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE HEAT
THAT GOES THROUGH THE CENTRAL
VALLEY AND IT WAS A HUNDRED
SEVEN DEGREES BEFORE I CAME
UP HERE AND THIS PAST WEEK
-- SO I GUESS MY QUESTION
TO YOU IS HOW DOES THE C. P.
U. C. WORKING TO ENSURE THAT
ADEQUATE KNOWS NOTICES FOR PS
PS EVENTS AND ROLLING BLACKOUTS
ARE GIVEN TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
AND THE MAIN REASON I ASK THAT
IS BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE
HAD A P. S. P. EVENT LAST YEAR
-- THE CITY OF TEHACHAPI GOT
NO NOTICE AND WE ALMOST LOST
A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR WHAT
WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT
BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T SHUT OFF
THE POWER THERE'S A SHUTDOWN
PROCESS THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE
SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET
BETTER ON AND PSP NOTICE HIS
PS NOTIFICATIONS FOR OUR CITIES
IT IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN
AND THANK YOU FOR RAISING IT --
OF THE UC DOES HAVE PROTOCOLS
THAT APPLIES TO ALL OF THE
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES --
TO GOVERN HOW THEY PROVIDE
NOTIFICATIONS AND REQUIRE THEM
TO PROVIDE NOTIFICATIONS PRIOR
TO PS PS EVENTS THEY'RE REQUIRED
TO NOTIFY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
AND STATE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS
AND THEN THEY ARE REQUIRED TO
NOTIFY INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMERS
-- AND THERE ARE IN AND THEY
HAVE TO DO THAT SEVERAL TIMES
INCLUDING AT LEAST TWO DAYS
IN ADVANCE AND THEN UP INTO
THE TIME AND THEN THEY HAVE TO
PROVIDE NOTIFICATION WHEN THE
POWER'S GOING TO GO BACK ON
SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS WHAT TO
EXPECT -- THERE HAVE BEEN
-- A PROBLEMS WITH THE INVESTOR
OWNED UTILITIES COMPLIANCE --
WE JUST LAST IN THE
PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ISSUED
ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT
ORDERS AGAINST ALL THREE OF
THE INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES
FOR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH
NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS IN
TWENTY TWENTY -- SAID THOSE
ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT
ORDERS ARE OUT -- THEY WILL
BE SUBJECT TO A PROCESS --
TO TO TO DETERMINE --
THE OUTCOME OF THOSE ENFORCEMENT
MATTERS BUT WE HAVE BEEN
MONITORING AND AND ENSURING AND
WORKING ON COMPLIANCE I ALSO
AND WE ALSO REQUIRE REPORTING OF
ALL THE INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES
TO THE QC SO ESSENTIALLY
COME TELL US IN A PUBLIC SETTING
HOW YOU'RE DOING TO IMPROVE BOTH
WILDFIRE PREVENTION AND -- PS PS
-- AND AND SO WE HAVE BEEN
MONITORING THEIR CONTINUED
IMPROVEMENT AND THEY HAVE MADE
IMPROVEMENT BUT YOU'RE RIGHT
TO NOTE THAT THIS IS LIFE AND
DEATH AND THAT THEY HAVE TO
BE VERY VERY CAREFUL ABOUT
NOTIFICATIONS SO WHILE I DO FEEL
THAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING MADE
I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
ISSUE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR
AND WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT
WE DO HAVE ENFORCEMENT ORDERS
OUT NOW AND IT'S SOMETHING
WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OKAY
AND THIS QUESTION AND THIS
NEXT QUESTION MAY NOT BE YOUR
PURVIEW BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE
A TECHNOLOGY PERSON THANK YOU
AND THAT REPORTS TO YOU THAT
PROVIDES THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THE
CPUC I GUESS MY MY -- NEXT
QUESTION IS IS THAT THEY'RE
IN TENNESSEE THEY'RE BUILDING
A QUANTUM PHYSICS OR QUANTUM
COMPUTER LAB AND IT'S HELPING
TREMENDOUSLY WITH -- AND
INTERNET DESTRUCTION ELECTRICITY
DISRUPTION AND YOUR NOT SPECIFY
HACKED THE GRID IN TENNESSEE
NOW AND THERE'S ALL THIS NEW
TECHNOLOGY I DO YOU KNOW IF
WE'RE DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT
IN CALIFORNIA TO DEVELOP OUR
TO EXERCISE THE USE OF NEW
TECHNOLOGY FOR GREATER ENERGY
PROTECTION IS THAT SOMETHING
ON YOUR RADAR SO I WILL TRY TO
ANSWER THE QUESTION BEST OF MY
ABILITY AND I FOLLOW HIM OR
STAND IN THE REAL WORLD ON THE
BUSINESS AND IF YOU ASK ME ABOUT
SOMETHING I CAN GO TO THE PERSON
IN CHARGE OF THAT DEPARTMENT
AND GET YOU A REALLY GOOD ANSWER
BUT PROBABLY NOT FOR ME DIRECTLY
I DO KNOW THAT THE INVESTOR
OWNED UTILITIES OF PG&E AND
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON AND
SDG ANY DO YOU HAVE EXTENSIVE
SO CYBERSECURITY PROTECTIONS
THEY HAVE ADDED A PROTECTIONS
FOR THEIR NETWORKS TO MAKE SURE
THAT RELIABILITY IS ENSURED
-- AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF
TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS
GOING ON WITHIN ARE REGULATED
ENTITIES -- AT THE P. YOU SEE
IT YOU KNOW TO THE EXTENT WE
HAVE CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION
AND AND OTHER THINGS THAT
NEED TO PROTECT IT ABOUT THE
SECURITY OF OUR GRID WE DO HAVE
A HIGH LEVEL OF SECURITY AND
WE WORK WITH SENATE CALIFORNIA
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES
OKAY ON THAT SO WE KIND OF
RELY ON THEIR EXPERTISE SO THAT
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO IT AS
ARE YOU KNOW AS THE KEEPERS
OF THE ED THIS CYBER SECURITY
PROTOCOLS AND OTHER THINGS
-- SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE
THINGS IN PLACE IF THERE ARE
SPECIFIC IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC
INFORMATION I CAN PROVIDE WILL
FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR OFFICE
GREAT NO I APPRECIATE THAT AND
I GUESS THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE
IS KIND OF A TOUGH ONE THOUGH
IN TWENTY TWENTY WHEN THERE
ARE A LOT OF NEWS REPORTS THAT
REVEALED THE GOVERNOR NEWSOME'S
OFFICE EXERTED A LOT OF WHAT
THEY CALLED CONTROL OVER THE
C. P. C. WHICH IS SUPPOSED
TO OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY AND
YOU'VE SERVED IN BOTH THE BROWN
IN THE NOOSA MINISTRATION SO I
GUESS MY QUESTION IS IS THERE
ARE YOU GUYS DOING ANYTHING IN
YOUR DEPARTMENT TO ASSURE THE
PUBLIC THAT YOU ARE OPERATING
INDEPENDENTLY ON THE BEHALF OF
RATE PAYERS I'M SO THAT'S
A GOOD QUESTION AND I GET YOU
AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT --
EARLIER ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND
THE NEED TO PRESERVE THAT IN
A EVEN INCREASE TRANSPARENCY
OF THE PUC'S PROCESSES FOR
OUR -- PROCEEDINGS WE DO
HAVE A PUBLIC DOCKET WE HAVE
A PUBLIC PERSON -- MEETINGS
WE HAVE -- HEARINGS THAT ARE
THAT ARE CONDUCTED IN PUBLIC
AND SO AND AND WE'VE MADE
IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR WEBSITE
SO THAT INFORMATION IS MORE
ACCESSIBLE BUT WE ALSO HAVE A
COMMUNITY -- -- OR OR CONSUMER
ADVISORS WHO ANSWER QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMUNITIES AND TRY TO
ENSURE THE PUBLIC THAT HERE'S
WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HERE'S HOW
YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING --
I VIEW ALL OF THE PROCEEDINGS
IN TERMS OF OUR STATUTORY
AUTHORITY THE EVIDENCE BEFORE
ME AND I AIN'T YOU KNOW IN VERY
FOCUSED ON HAVING THE EVIDENCE
GUIDE BY DECISION MAKING THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
BEING HERE AND ANSWERING MY
QUESTIONS AGAIN I'M I APOLOGIZE
FOR NOT BEING HERE -- I LOOK
FORWARD YOUR CONFIRMATION I MEAN
YOU'RE VERY WELL QUALIFIED AM
I JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS SO
THANK YOUNG PLEASE DON'T FORGET
ABOUT THE CENTRAL VALLEY IN
THE MIDDLE OF A HEAT WAVE IN
THE SUMMERTIME ABSOLUTELY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR THANK
YOU VERY MUCH -- SENATOR GROVE
WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO
TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
AND -- I WILL SAY -- SHOULD
SENATOR HERTZBERG GET HERE AFTER
-- PUBLIC COMMENT I MAY GIVE
HIM THE OPPORTUNITY IF HE HAS A
QUESTION OR TWO AND I APPRECIATE
YOUR AGAIN YOUR FLEXIBILITY
-- SO WE'RE GONNA START RIGHT
HERE IN ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
AND LET ME ASK THOSE COMING
FORWARD TO GIVE YOUR NAME YOUR
-- ORGANIZATION IF ANY AND VERY
BRIEF COMMENTS WELCOME THANK
YOU HI MY NAME'S TONY BUT ALONG
WITH CALIFORNIA'S STRATEGIES
I'M ALSO HERE REPRESENTING
THE FORMER PRESIDENT THE PC
MARIBEL PATCHER -- I'VE WORKED
WITH THE LAST THREE PRESIDENTS
QUITE CLOSELY THIS IS AN
EXCEPTIONALLY CHALLENGING JOB
AND WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE
SOMEBODY LIKE PRESIDENT REYNOLDS
WHO'S AGREED TO THIS CHILD
WHO IS SHOWN INTEGRITY WORKS
HARDER THAN ANYBODY I KNOW
AND HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR WHICH
IS NECESSARY SO WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS JOB AT THIS POINT
THANK THANK YOU SO MUCH WELCOME
THANK YOU GAS MONEY JONES
WITH THE INDEPENDENT ENERGY
PRODUCERS ASSOCIATION AND --
WE'VE BEEN ACTIVE AT THE P. YOU
SEE SINCE NINETEEN EIGHTY TWO
AND REPRESENT ONE OF OF JUST
ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT PRODUCES
ELECTRICITY FOR THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA -- MS REYNOLDS IS A
VERY WELL OF -- SUITED FOR
THIS JOB I THINK EVERY DEBATER
INTELLIGENCE AND I THINK YOU
ARE HER -- EXPLAIN A LOT OF
VERY DIFFICULT QUESTIONS THIS
MORNING WE WOULD STRONGLY URGE
YOU TO BASICALLY -- GOOD FOR HER
TODAY THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WELCOME GOOD AFTERNOON
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS BRING LIGHT
ON BEHALF OF OFFSHORE WIND
CALIFORNIA A WE ARE A COALITION
OF OFFSHORE WIND DEVELOPERS AND
TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES WHO ARE
HIGHLY INTERESTED IN RESPONSIBLY
DEVELOPING OFFSHORE WIND TO
MEET THE STATE'S OFFSHORE WIND
GOALS AND ALSO OUR CLEAN ENERGY
GOALS FOR THE SEASON HIGHLY
SUPPORTERS OF PRESIDENT REYNOLDS
I THINK SHE'S A EXCELLENT --
CONFIRMATION PROCESS FOR THAT
FOR THIS APPOINTMENT CONNECT
TIME THAT I'VE KNOWN HER
DURING THE TIMES WHEN SHE WAS
IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE I'VE
ALWAYS WANTED TO BE SOMEONE
WHO'S WILLING TO DIG INTO THE
ISSUES BOTH ON THE TECHNICAL
AND THE POLICY ISSUES THERE ARE
MULTIPLE MULTITUDE OF ISSUES
AT THE STATE IS FACING OFF
FOR A WIN IS THAT TECHNOLOGY
IS EMERGING TECHNOLOGY AS YOU
MENTION -- COMMENTS WE THINK
THAT THE PLANNING GOALS AT THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION
AS WELL AS A CUT COMPANY PUBLIC
UTILITIES ARE GONNA BE DEALING
WITH ARE GOING TO BE CRITICAL
AND IN THIS POSITION THAT
PRESENT RENTALS GOING SERVING
WILL HIGHLY FOR TO WORKING
WITH HER AND ALL THE STATE
AGENCIES TO MEET RELIABILITY
AND REPAIR A COST EFFECTIVE
GOALS WILL AFFORD TO WORKING
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WELCOME
THANK YOU PRESIDENT ATKINS AND
MEMBERS OF THE RULES COMMITTEE
I STEPPED OFF THE DIE IS THAT
THE CALIFORNIA TRANSPORTATION
COMMISSION TO RACE OVER HERE
BEFORE THEY NOTICE ME I'M
GONNA HAVE TO RACE BACK MY
NAME IS CARLGUARDINO I HAVE
THE PLEASURE OF SERVING AS
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF
BLOOM ENERGY AND WE ARE SO
ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT SOMEONE
AS CREATIVE COLLABORATIVE
ETHICAL HARDWORKING I AND JUST
A JOY TO WORK WITH COMMITTED
TO OUR MUTUAL CLEAN ENERGY
CLIMATE GOALS AS ALICE REYNOLDS
IS WE ARE HEADQUARTERED IN
CALIFORNIA WE HAVE FIVE HUNDRED
MANUFACTURING JOBS IN CALIFORNIA
THOUSAND JOBS OVERALL ADDING
THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MORE
CLEAN RESILIENT ADVANCED
MANUFACTURING JOBS AND SOMEONE
WITH THE VISION AND INTEGRITY AS
ALICE REYNOLDS TO BE PRESIDENT
OF THE P. UC WILL JUST ADD
MORE TO THE WORK WE NEED TO DO
TOGETHER IN OUR STATE THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH WELCOME
THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON THERESA
COOK ON BEHALF OF OUR FOR NOR --
PERSONALLY WE WOULD SECOND OF
ALL OF THE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT
-- ALISON HER WORK ETHIC --
AND IN PARTICULAR FOR OFFSHORE
WIND WOULD JUST ONLINE ARE
COMMENTS THAT THOSE SUFFERING
LIFE THANK YOU WONDERFUL THANK
YOU SO MUCH WELCOME HI MADAM
PRO TEM COMMITTEE MEMBERS MARC
WHITEMAN WITH THE ONE IN THE
GROUP -- I WANT TO TELL YOU
THAT -- I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
TO WORK WITH ALICE -- FOR QUITE
SOMETIME DURING YOUR CAREER
AND FIND HER TO BE EXTREMELY
THOUGHTFUL AND HER DELIBERATIONS
SHE'S INTELLIGENT SHE'S FAIR
-- SHE'S AGGRESSIVE WHEN NEEDED
TO BE AND SHE SOMEONE WHO CAN
REALLY TAKE THE REINS OF THE PC
DURING THAT TIME A SIGNIFICANT
CRISES UNPRECEDENTED DROUGHTS
WILDFIRES RELIABILITY GAP YOU
SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING
ABOUT TODAY AND BROADBAND
ACCESS RIGHT A DIGITAL DIVIDE
THAT IS IMPACTED SO MANY
PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES SO
ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENTS --
E. S. R. W. E. RENEWABLES
CAL WATER EAST BAY COMMUNITY
ENERGY WE'RE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT ROUNDS
CONFIRMATION THANK YOU THANK YOU
WELCOME MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
MY NAME IS MARYANN WARMER
DAMN I REPRESENT RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA
COMMONLY KNOWN AS RC RC AND
WE'RE HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOUR
SUPPORT IS REYNOLDS SINCE
HER APPOINTMENT WE HAVE FOUND
HER TO BE SYMPATHETIC TO THE
CONCERNS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT
PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO
BROADBAND DEPLOYMENT AND THE
IMPLICATIONS FOR THE RURAL
COMMUNITIES MANY OF WHOM ARE
QUALIFIED AS DISADVANTAGED
AND OTHERWISE ECONOMICALLY
DISTRESSED BUT WE ALSO BELIEVE
THAT HER DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE WITH
RESPECT TO THE ISSUES BEFORE
THE CPC WILL SERVE THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA WELL WE ENCOURAGE
YOUR SUPPORT OF HER NOMINATION
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WELCOME MADAM PRESIDENT MEMBERS
JASON BRYANT ON BEHALF OF WELL
HAD ELECTRIC THAT WE'VE HAD
THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW AND
WORK WITH MISS REYNOLDS FOR
MANY YEARS AND -- JUST COMMAND
-- HER LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE
AND OPENNESS AND WORKING
WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS -- AND
WE'RE PLEASED TO SUPPORT A
CONFIRMATION DAY AND APPRECIATE
THE OPPORTUNITY THANK YOU
THANK YOU SO MUCH WELCOME
A GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS CALL THE HOLY ON BEHALF
OF THE CALPINE CORPORATION IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF MISTRIALS
CONFIRMATION HERE -- WE JUST
LIKE TO REITERATE SOME OF THE
COMMENTS THAT CAME EARLIER
JUST EXPRESS OUR THOUGHTS
ON THE THOUGHTFULNESS AND THE
KNOWLEDGE THAT SHE EXPRESSES
IN HER ROLE AND WE JUST BELIEVE
THAT SHE'S THE RIGHT PERSON
FOR THE WORLD TO GO AHEAD ME
CALIFORNIA'S CLIMATE CHANGE
POLICIES THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WELCOME
I AM SURE MATT ROMAN WITH NAME
OF ABSENCES HITS HERE ON BEHALF
OF UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD THE
-- REAL ROAD TO CLASS ON RIVERS
A LOT MOST NOT TRACK IN THE
STATE AND NOT ONE OF THE
ENERGY ARE YOU ISSUES THAT YOU
TYPICALLY DEAL WITH BUT THE
B. C. ALSO OVERSEES THE OFFICE
OF REAL SAFETY AND -- OUR TIME
WORKING WITHOUT TRIALS WE HAVE
WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT A
CONFIRMATION THANK YOU THANK YOU
WELCOME MADAM PRO TEM NUMBERS
REBEKAH LEE ON BEHALF OF NRG
ENERGY AND ON BEHALF OF OUR
SUBSIDIARIES THAT PROVIDE DIRECT
ACCESS SERVICE CRITICAL BACKUP
POWER SERVICE AS WELL AS DEMAND
RESPONSE SERVICE IN THE STATE
WE HAVE A KEEN INTEREST IN
ENSURING THE RELIABILITY OF THE
GRID AND THE SUCCESS OF PROGRAMS
-- THAT IMPORTANT PROGRAMS THE
P. YOU SEE OVERSEAS AND WE'RE
VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT PRESIDENT
RUNNELS CONFIRMATION TODAY
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WELCOME THANK YOU MADAM PRO
TEM MEMBERS I'M VERY MOLINE
WITH THE CALIFORNIA MINISTRY
TOADIE'S ASSOCIATION AND WE
ACTUALLY DON'T TAKE POSITIONS
ON APPOINTEES -- OR NOMINEES
TO THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION BUT
WE HAVE KNOWN THIS RENTALS
FOR OF FOR MANY YEARS WE
BELIEVE SHE IS A PERSON OF
-- EXTREME QUALIFICATIONS AND
OUTSTANDING CHARACTER THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH WELCOME
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR SENATORS
I'M VICTORIA ROME WITH THE
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL AND RDC IN SUPPORT
OF MISS REYNOLDS CONFIRMATION
WE'VE WORKED WELL MY COLLEAGUES
AND I HAVE WORKED WELL WITH
MISS REYNOLDS FOR HER TIME IN
THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT
POSITIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIP
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
NEXT WITNESS BETTER SURE MEMBERS
JOHN WHITE WITH THE CENTER FOR
ENERGY EFFICIENCY RENEWABLE
TECHNOLOGIES WE SUPPORT
PRESIDENT RENTALS A CONFIRMATION
BECAUSE SAID SHE'S BEEN THERE WE
HAVE SEEN MOVEMENT AND CHANGE AT
THIS AGENCY WHICH IS UP TO NOW
BEEN THE WEAK LINK IN OUR CLEAN
ENERGY -- IMPLEMENTATION WE'VE
HAD BACKLOGS ON TRANSMISSION
BACKLOGS AND -- AND --
PROCUREMENT AND AND WE'RE BEHIND
THE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HAVING
TO SPEND FIVE BILLION DOLLARS
IN GENERAL FUND MONEY BUT WE
SEE THIS RENTALS AS AS BEING
A TEAM PLAYER AND BEING OPEN
TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH HER
INTER AGENCY COLLEAGUES AND WE
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT SHE HAS
BECOME A FORCE FOR INTEGRATING
THE ADMINISTRATION'S THINKING
AND IMPLEMENTATION SO THAT WE
CAN BE SUCCESSFUL WE WISH HER
WELL AND WE HOPE THAT WERE
CORRECT IN OUR ASSESSMENT
THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH
GOOD AFTERNOON TO REMEMBER
SICKENING FAN WE HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA EFFICIENCY AND DEMAND
MANAGEMENT COUNSEL IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF ISRAEL'S CONFIRMATION
ALSO ON BEHALF OF INTERCEPTOR IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU
OKAY -- SEEING NO ONE ELSE HERE
-- IN THE ROOM LET ME JUST
PAUSE FOR A SECOND -- SENATOR
HERTZBERG ODD THEY KNOW THAT
PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING I'VE
SAID TO THE PUBLIC LET ME ASK IF
YOU WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT
AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS OR MAKE
SOME COMMENTS FROM HIS RENTALS
AT THIS I CAN VERY MUCH AND
I APOLOGIZE AND TRY TO JUGGLE
BETWEEN THIS COMMITTEE AND
GOVERNMENT FINANCES ANOTHER
PRESENTATION STUFF I APOLOGIZE
BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS
IF I CAN'T PERSONALLY APOLOGIZE
AND ARE YOU WANT TO REACH OUT
AND TALK TO ME AND I DO HAVE
TIME TRYING TO YOU KNOW TO
JUST DEADLINE TIMES APOLOGIZE
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR
THOUGHTS ARE AS WHAT BECAUSE THE
ENERGY CRISIS IN CALIFORNIA'S
IN TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO WHEN
THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
WAS THE CENTER OF THAT WHICH
YOUR TOPLINE THINKING ABOUT THAT
-- I'M NOT SURE HOW TO
ANSWER THAT QUESTION --
IT I I THINK THERE'S A LOT
OF HISTORY THERE AND --
I HOPE THAT YOU KNOW WE
HAVE BEEN THERE BEEN SO MANY
CHANGES IN CALIFORNIA'S ENERGY
SYSTEM SINCE THE ENERGY CRISIS
-- I I IN A YOU KNOW THE ENERGY
CRISIS I THINK EVEN MEANS A LOT
OF THINGS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE
AND AND YOU KNOW WE'D HAVE TO
TALK ABOUT WHICH ASPECT OF IT
A IT YOU KNOW WE WERE TRYING
TO DIGEST AND GUESTS WHO KIND
OF THAT WHAT THE ROOT CAUSE WAS
-- I GET AND I DON'T ACTUALLY
DON'T WANT TO DODGE YOUR
QUESTION BUT I'M NOT SURE I CAN
GIVE A GOOD ANSWER TO IT BECAUSE
I HAVE BEEN SO FOCUSED ON THE
ENERGY SYSTEM AS IT IS TODAY
AND -- YOU KNOW AS YOU KNOW WE
HAD -- DEREGULATION AND AND
SO NOW WE'RE OUR FOCUSES ON
REGULATING THE TRANSMISSION
DISTRIBUTION -- OPERATORS WITHIN
CALIFORNIA AS WELL AS THE
UTILITIES TO THE EXTENT THEY
THEY DO GENERATION -- IN TERMS
OF THE THE RESOURCE MIX --
-- L. -- VERSES ARE INDEPENDENT
GENERATORS WHICH WE HAVE NOW
-- AND IT AND WE HAVE A
DIFFERENT STRUCTURE IN PLACE TO
INSURE THINGS LIKE -- RESOURCE
ADEQUACY TO AT YOU KNOW THAT
THAT THAT IS IS VERY MUCH
IMPROVED OUR SITUATION COMPARED
TO WHERE WE WERE AT THE TIME
OF THE ENERGY CRISIS WHERE
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SYSTEM OF
-- SHORT TERM CONTRACTS TO
TO COVER LOAD AT ALL TIMES
OF THE DAY AND A SUPPLY PLAN
PROCESS WHERE THE AYE AYE
THE LOAD SERVING ENTITIES HAVE
TO COME FORWARD -- TO MEET
THEIR LOAD -- WE NOW HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA INDEPENDENT SYSTEM
OPERATOR THAT OPERATES AS OUR
CALIFORNIA BALANCING AUTHORITY
-- SO THERE ARE JUST SO MANY
IMPROVEMENTS -- NOW THAT I
SEE AND AND REALLY JUST A
A A SUCH A DIFFERENT SYSTEM
HERE IN CALIFORNIA AND THEN
BACK IN THE ENERGY CRISIS WELL
IF I COULD -- JUST A THOUGHT
A SUGGESTS THAT AND I COULD
BE WRONG I DON'T KNOW JUST SOME
UNUSUAL PARANOID OF A LITTLE BIT
OF PTSD FROM THE ENERGY CRISIS
THAT TRAVELS WITH ME TODAY
AND -- I WOULD JUST SUGGEST
THAT YOU STUDY IT BECAUSE I MY
VIEW IS THAT DESPITE ALL THE
WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE
LAST TWENTY SOME YEARS IN TRYING
TO BOTH CHANGES SYSTEM AND
TO MOVE AWAY FROM --
OF FOSSIL FUELS THAT THE ISSUE
OF SHORT TERM CONTRACTS THE
DECISIONS MADE BY THE P. YOU
SEE AT THAT TIME THE POWER OF
THE ENTITY THAT YOU'RE LEADING
COULD BECAUSE THE EXACT SAME
THING AGAIN WE HAVE DECISIONS
NOW BEING MADE ON THE FRONT
PAGE OF THE PAPER AS TO WHETHER
OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE PEAKER
PLANTS ARE NOT I DON'T WANT TO
ENGAGE IN THAT DISCUSSION ON I
JUST WANT TO SAY IS THIS I JUST
THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
TO THINK ABOUT IT A LOT AND
TO DRILL IN THIS STUDY I KNOW
THAT THE EVERY GOVERNOR SINCE
THE ENERGY CRISIS HAS TOLD ME
PERSON OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT
THEY SHOULD BIG FEAR AND
-- I JUST THINK THAT YOU
ARE IN A POSITION WHERE THIS
COULD HAPPEN AGAIN ABSOLUTELY
FORGET ABOUT YOU KNOW RESOURCE
ADEQUACY AND COLDER AND ALL
THE OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN
WORKING ON SO I CAME BACK IN THE
GOVERNMENT HOPE YOU HAD A DOZEN
SHOULDN'T JUST SUGGESTING THAT
YOU SHOULD -- DO THE HOMEWORK
ON THAT AND IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL
I'M HOPING IT'S NOT BECAUSE
IT NEVER HAPPENS BUT I JUST
WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF MY
SENTIMENT WITH YOU A IN THE
ISSUE CONTINUE IN THIS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT JOB AND THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR FOR ALLOWING ME TO
SHARE THAT DID YOU WANT AND
IT JUST WANTED TO ADD THANK
YOU FOR THAT ABSOLUTELY WILL
I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED ARE A
LONG TERM CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS
WHICH IT WHICH THE LEGISLATURE
HAD A BIG PART OF ENSURING THAT
WE'RE GETTING THOSE LONG TERM
CONTRACTS IN PLACE CROSSES FORTY
THREE BILLION DOLLARS A CITY
CALIFORNIA BECAUSE OF DECISIONS
MADE BY THE PC DISCOUNT
SO I COULD SHOW YOU THANK YOU
SO KINDLY THANK YOU THINK ISRAEL
THANK YOU -- SENATOR LET ME
QUICKLY ASK YOU I KNOW THAT YOU
ARE COMING AND GOING ARE YOU
HERE FOR A FEW MINUTES OR SHOULD
I TAKE CARE OF SOME BUSINESS
WITH GREAT RESPECT TO THE
APPOINTEE WE HAVEN'T DONE THE
CONSENT AGENDA OR LET'S DO THAT
NOW OKAY BECAUSE I GOT I KNOW
THEY WERE GETTING CLOSE THE
AGENDA ON THE I'M SEVEN SORRY
I'VE GOT ADD ON I'M SORRY I
KNOW BECAUSE I I WANT TO MAKE
SURE WE CAN CHECK THE BUSINESS
AND WILL BE FAIRLY QUICK I'M
GONNA -- WE STARTED IMMEDIATELY
WITH MISS RENTALS BECAUSE WE
-- STARTED WITH THREE MEMBERS
SO I AM GOING TO ASK MY
COLLEAGUES IF WE COULD GO TO
NUMBER TWO AND BEAR WITH ME
BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU
HOW I WOULD LIKE TO MOTIONS
BECAUSE I'M HAVING TO SEPARATE
THINGS OUT FOR VARIOUS MEMBERS
OF THIS COMMITTEE I WOULD
ASK FOR GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES
NOT REQUIRED TO APPEAR --
ITEM TO G. H. I.
J. K. AND L. CAN GO AS ONE
MOTION SO MOVED THANK YOU --
SENATOR HERTZBERG MAY I ASK
THE SECRETARY TO CALL THE ROLL
GROVE RIGHT GROW BY HERTZBERG
BY CHRIS BURKE I KAMLAGER
KAMLAGER OKAY BATES BATES AYE
ATKINS AYE THAT'S INSIDE I WILL
FIVE TWO ZERO THAT IS OUT -- I
WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON ITEM
TO E. R. AND THAT
IS NOT REQUIRED TO APPEAR TO
SHOW MOVIE THANK YOU SENATOR
HERTZBERG MADAM SECRETARY WE
CALL THE ROLL GROWTH GROWTH
AYE HERTZBERG NIGHT HERTZBERG
HIGH KAMLAGER KAMLAGER I
BATES BATES AYE ATKINS NINE
THAT'S INSIDE FIVE ZERO FIVE
ZERO -- ITEM TO F.
-- NOT ONLY ARE TO APPEAR THANK
YOU SENATOR HERTZBERG MADAM
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
GROWTH GROWTH NO HERTZBERG
ALL RIGHT HERTZBERG AYE
KAMLAGER KAMLAGER I BATES
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GUESS I SHOULD HAVE SEEN
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TWENTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD
GOOD AFTERNOON PRESIDENT AT HAND
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
DEFINITELY ON TRACK WITH
TRACKING PRICE AND ON BEHALF
OF THE AMERICAN CLEAN POWERS
CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENTAL DEFENSE
FUND AND THE COALITION FOR
COMMUNITY SOLAR ACCESS I WE
WANT TO REGISTER OUR STRONG
SUPPORT FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF
PRESIDENT DONALD AS THE
PC -- ONE OF THE RUNOFF
EXPERIENCE SHOWS HER DEDICATION
TO ACHIEVING THE STATE
ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL
POLICY GOALS I WOULD
REALLY VERY HONORED TO --
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HER
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE
CONFIRMATION THANK YOU THANK
YOU SO MUCH NEXT WEAKER
NEXT WILL BE NUMBER ONE THIRTY
FOUR GOOD AFTERNOON
AFTER HARTMAN THE PUBLIC POLICY
ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE
SQUABBLING CLIENT CALIFORNIA
LARGE ENERGY CONSUMERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE CALIFORNIA
BIOMASS ENERGY ALLIANCE WE
FOUND -- PRESIDENT RONALD TO
BE INCREDIBLY KNOWLEDGEABLE
AND COMPETENT AND WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT THE CONFIRMATION OF HER
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THANKS TO BE NUMBER
ONE THIRTY EIGHT
G. MINOR ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY TWENTY
THREE SHE CHEN AS WELL AS
EMPLOYEE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
CONFIRMATION OF MISS REYNOLDS
OVER THE YEARS WORKING WITH HER
WE FOUND THAT SHE HAD ALWAYS
BEEN AVAILABLE STAKEHOLDERS
COLLABORATE AND POLLUTION
ORIENTED IN PARTICULAR WE
WILL CALL THE LEADERSHIP
SHE SHOWED DURING THE AUGUST
TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY
XTREME WEST WIDE WAVE IN HER
COORDINATED EFFORTS WITH THE
EMTS AND ENERGY STAKEHOLDERS
BUT YOU THERE'S HELP MINIMIZE
THE ROLLING BLACKOUTS AND PUT
IN PLACE POLICIES AND SYSTEMS
TO MITIGATE FUTURE LIABILITY
EVENT WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT OF
HER NOMINATION AND LOOK FORWARD
TO OUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP
IN MEETING CALIFORNIA'S
ENERGY GOAL CLINICAL THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT WITNESS
NEXT WE'LL GO TO NUMBER ONE
THIRTY GOOD AFTERNOON
CANELA REPRESENTING THE
CORPORATION FOR EDUCATION
NETWORK INITIATIVES IN
CALIFORNIA KNOWN AS THE NEXT
TO THE PORT PRESIDENT REYNOLDS
CONFIRMATION OF PRESIDENT OF THE
TIQIQ'S BEING GIVEN HER UNIQUE
ACT ALEX YES ALL THE INDUSTRY
UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF
THE COMMUNITY HE THINKS HE IS
EXTRAORDINARILY WELL IT'D JUST
TURN AFRICAN TACKLE FUTURE
CHALLENGES FOR THEM THANK YOU
FOR YOUR PUBLIC CONFIRMATION
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT WITNESS
THANKS THE LINE ONE TWENTY SEVEN
HELLO THIS IS MARK TONY
I SERVICE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF HERMAN THE UTILITY REFORM
NETWORK PLEASE OFFER
FROM THE PORT THE CONFIRMATION
OF OUR FELLOW AS PRESIDENT OF
THE CPU THREE WE APPRECIATE
HER LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT
TO AFFORDABLE BILLS WILDFIRE
SAFETY TO CLEAN ENERGY
AND WE PARTICULARLY APPRECIATED
HER COMMENTS TODAY COMMITTING
HERSELF TO RESOLVING THAT
INTERVENOR COMPENSATION BACKLOG
AND YOU CAN COUNT ON TURN
TO REPORT BACK TO THE SENATE
RULES COMMITTEE AND LET YOU
KNOW HOW HE'S DOING THANK YOU
THANK YOU SO MUCH NEXT
WITNESS THE EXORCIST
WINE ONE THIRTY THREE
HI THIS IS WENDY REYNOLDS
FROM CALIFORNIA ADVISORS
ON BEHALF OF THE FOLLOWING
CLIENTS WHO ARE ALL IN
SUPPORT OF THIS NOMINATION
POINT ONE WOULD BE CEO OF
THE SOLAR ENERGY INDUSTRIES
ASSOCIATION FOR FRONT POWER
EDF RENEWABLE SEE IF THE
THE CENTER FOR SUSTAINABLE
ENERGY TO BURN AND IT'S NOT
THIS SACRAMENTO MUNICIPAL
UTILITY DISTRICT ALL SUPPORT
THIS NOMINATION THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH NEXT WITNESS
NEXT WE GO TO LINE ONE FORTY
AFTER NOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS DATE ON ONE WITH
WE CAN'T WE CANNOT HEAR YOU
-- CAN YOU SPEAK DIRECTLY
INTO YOUR -- PHONE SIR
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS HEAR ME NOW PERFECT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU
VERY MUCH DAVID CONKLIN WITH
THE LIGA CALIFORNIA CITIES WE
ARE PROUD TO SUPPORT PRESIDENT
REYNOLDS CONFIRMATION AS WE
MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE
CHANGE AND TRANSITION TO CLEANER
ENERGY SOURCES PRESIDENT RONALD
HAS BEEN DEEPLY ENGAGED ON THE
KEY ISSUES BEFORE THE TEARS
THE FOCUS THE STRAIGHT DISASTER
PREPAREDNESS AND RELIABILITY
FOR ENERGY GENERATION AND
TRANSMISSION DISTRIBUTION --
INITIALLY JUST WITH THE HISTORIC
INVESTMENTS TO PROVIDE RELIABLE
AND AFFORDABLE BROADBAND TO ALL
OF CALIFORNIA THE COMMISSION
UNDER PRESIDENTS RONALD
LEADERSHIP HAS MAINTAINED A
PROACTIVE AND COLLABORATIVE
WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH CAL
CITY SOLICITING INPUT FROM
A LOCAL PERSPECTIVE WE JUST
PUT YOU KNOW PRESIDENT RALPH
AT THE TOP THAT UP WITH SERVICE
AND -- WE CANNOT THINK OF A MORE
QUALIFIED AND DEDICATED PERSON
TO LEAD THE PDC -- WE SUPPORT
HER CONFIRMATION THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT WITNESS
AT THE TIME WE HAVE NO OTHERS
IN OUR QUEUE THANK YOU SO
MUCH MISTER MODERATOR WE WILL
BE BACK WITH YOU IN A FEW
MOMENTS OKAY HAVING HEARD
FROM ALL OF THOSE WHO WISH TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT WE WILL NOW
COME BACK INTO ROOM TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED TO HEAR FROM
ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION ANYONE IN OPPOSITION
OKAY SEEING NO ONE APPROACHED
THE MICROPHONE -- WE ARE
ALREADY BACK WITH YOU MISTER
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MAY WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
EMPLEADOS YOU ON THE PHONE
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WE DID HAVE ONE INTERVIEW
THANK YOU GO AHEAD WE'LL
GO TO LINE ONE TWENTY EIGHT
GOOD AFTERNOON SENATOR -- MY
NAME IS PETE WHY WOULD HE WITH
YOU WE CLAIM OUR POWER UTILITIES
DEFICIT CAMPAIGN THAT WE
SUBMITTED A LETTER TO COMMITTEE
WITH FIFTY ONE ORGANIZATIONS
THAT LIVE VERY VIOLENT THAT
THE DEATH LEADER -- ANOTHER
SIR CAN I ASK YOU TO JUST STOP
FOR A MINUTE ONLY BECAUSE WE
CANNOT -- ACCURATELY HERE YOU
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
GET YOUR TESTIMONY SO THERE
IS A LITTLE BIT OF STATIC SO
MAYBE SPEAK A LITTLE SLOWER AND
WE'LL SEE IF WE ARE GETTING YOUR
TESTIMONY AND START AGAIN AND
GIVE ME YOUR NAME IF YOU WOULD
THROUGHOUT THE DECANTING
GO KEEP TALKING I'LL TELL
YOU IF IT IF IT'S NOT GOOD
GREAT THIS IS PETE WHY
WOULD BE WHAT THE RECLAIM
OUR POWER UTILITY JUSTICE
CAMPAIGN AND WE SUBMITTED
THAT LETTER UP ON BEHALF OF
-- SIXTY ONE ORGANIZATIONS OF
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GROUPS
FIRE SURVIVORS DISABILITY DEATH
THIS LEADERS -- -- CALLING
-- -- THE REAL LEADERSHIP
WE NEEDED FROM THE C. P. C.
PRESIDENT'S OFFICE CLEANING --
THAT WILL FIX GENE FAILURES
LEADERSHIP THAT CARES ABOUT
COMMUNITY THAT RECREATION AND
LEADERSHIP TO BUILD THE TWENTY
PERCENT THAT ENTRY INTO THE
SYSTEM THAT WE NEED WE WE SAT
WITH THE THREAT OF THE MARCH
TWENTY TWENTY INTERPRETED STOLEN
BUT THERE WAS A REAL CHANCE
OF TAKING THE ENERGY TO SOME
OF THE DIFFERENT DIRECTION
AWAY FROM THE FAILURES OF
PG&E AND -- THAT UP AND
SHE HATED THE AND -- WE HOPE
THAT -- MATERNAL ABOUT FITTING
IN A POSITION TO REALLY MAKE --
-- -- TRUE ON THAT PROMISE WILL
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FIX THAT
PROCESS -- PUSH P. JEANNIE
-- THROUGH THE PROCESS AND --
AND THEIR JOURNEY IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA AND MOVE US TOWARDS
THAT ENERGY AND THE TRUE SYSTEM
THAT WE AT YOU SEE
PRESIDENT CAN'T BE ASLEEP AT THE
WHEEL AND LET THE GENIE BROWN
ARE DOWN OUR STATE AND WE CARE
TO THE COMMITTED TO NOT PERMITS
AND ALL THE LESS YOU CAN CONNECT
THE HOLDEN PG&E ACCOUNTABLE AND
BUILDING THE CHIU ENERGY FUTURE
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OTHER WITNESSES
AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NO OTHERS
IN ARE YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
-- WE WILL TALK WITH YOU A
LITTLE LATER IN THE HEARING LET
ME BRING IT BACK HAVING HEARD
FROM WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
IN OPPOSITION WILL BRING IT
BACK TO MEMBERS FOR DISCUSSION
QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR MOTION
BECAUSE SENATOR GROVE HAS MADE A
MOTION TO MOVE THE CONFIRMATION
FORWARD MADAM SECRETARY WELL
LET ME JUST ARM ADD ONE COMMENT
-- A COUPLE COMMENTS THIS
IS A VERY DIFFICULT JOB AND
CLEARLY -- CLEARLY YOU'VE
BEEN IN MULTIPLE ROLES WHERE
YOU HAVE ADVISED GOVERNORS
-- THIS IS A WAY MORE --
DIFFICULT JOB IN SOME RESPECTS
BECAUSE YOU ARE VERY MUCH IN
THE PUBLIC EYE AND NOT JUST
ADVISING THE GOVERNOR -- THIS
IS A CRITICAL ORGANIZATION THE
ROLE THAT YOU PLAY IS CHAIR
IS CRITICAL AND WE'VE HAD
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE LIST OF
ITEMS -- -- THAT YOU HAVE
TO ADDRESS AND DEAL WITH AS
AS THE CHAIR OF THIS THIS BODY
AND I ACTUALLY THINK WE WILL
BE WELL SERVED I THINK YOU HEAR
THE COMMENTS INCLUDING THOSE
IN OPPOSITION I THINK YOU TAKE
THOSE TO HEART I THINK THIS
IS A VERY IMPORTANT IMPORTANT
CONFIRMATION AND IT'S CLEAR
THAT YOU HAVE THE BACKGROUND
THE EXPERIENCE AND THE SKILLS
TO DO THIS WHY YOU WANT TO
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE --
BUT I APPRECIATE THE BROAD GROUP
OF PEOPLE THAT SPOKE IN SUPPORT
OF YOU FROM A WIDE ARRAY OF
GROUPS AND I'M SURE THEY HAVE
ISSUES -- AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS
AGREE BUT -- IT SEEMS TO ME
THAT THEY FEEL LIKE YOU WILL
BE R. AS SOMEONE THAT THEY
CAN APPROACH AND TALK TO
AND TRY TO RESOLVE ISSUES
AND PROBLEMS AND THIS IS SO
CRITICAL FOR US RIGHT NOW I
APPRECIATE YOU ENTERTAINING
ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS AND OR
COMMENTS -- EVERY SINGLE ONE
AND -- I THINK WE HAVE GIVEN
THIS THE WEIGHT THAT IT
IS -- THAT IS DESERVED BY
SUCH AN APPOINTMENT AND --
I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR
YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU
SENATOR BREAUX FOR MAKING THE
MOTION -- SHE SAID I MADAM
SECRETARY -- PLEASE -- CONTINUE
GROVE GROW BY
HERTZBERG I'M LONGER
AND LONGER AYE FAITH AYE
BATES AYE AT THE HIGH THAT'S
INSIDE ON CALL WE WILL PUT THIS
ON CALL FOR WHEN THE SENATOR
A SENATOR FOR ITS FOR RETURNS
AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
TODAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
ABSOLUTELY -- WE WILL TAKE A
SHORT RECESS ARE AND BE RIGHT
BACK WITH ABOUT FIVE MINUTES
PLEASE BECAUSE I KNOW WE DO HAVE
A NUMBER OF OTHER APPOINTMENTS
THAT WE HAVE -- SESSION AT
SIX O'CLOCK TONIGHT SO WE'RE
WE'RE TAKE JUST A SHORT BREAK
COME ON AND GO TO ITEM
ONE B. AND THAT WOULD BE
THE APPOINTMENT OF MR LEAH
A. HENDERSON J. D. AS THE
DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT
OF PESTICIDE REGULATION SO
-- I WANT TO SAY WELCOME HI
DIRECTOR HENDERSON PLEASE GET
COMFORTABLE AND I'M GONNA SAY
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE
-- AND ASK YOU TO GO AHEAD
AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF ANYONE
HERE WITH YOU AND A KNOWLEDGE
ANYONE YOU WOULD LIKE TO --
OPENING COMMENTS STATEMENTS
AND THEN WE'LL GO RIGHT TO
COMMITTEE FOR A QUESTIONS
AND COMMENTS THANK YOU
PROTONMAIL AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND I WOULD LIKE TO
INTRODUCE FELICIDAD GONZALEZ WHO
IS OUR DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATION
AND POLICY WHO'S WITH ME HERE
TODAY AND WOULD LIKE TO THANK
HER AND THE DEPARTMENT -- FOR
ALL OF THEIR SUPPORT AND I'D
LIKE TO BEGIN MY COMMENTS --
BY THINKING GOVERNOR NEWSOM FOR
GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY AND
ALSO THANK SECRETARY BLUMENFELD
AND MY COLLEAGUES AT COUNTY
PA -- SECRETARY ROSS AND
COLLEAGUES AT THE DEPARTMENT OF
FOOD AND AGRICULTURE FOR THEIR
SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP BUT I
ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE COUNTY
AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONERS
WHO ARE KEY PARTNERS AS WELL
AS ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS ON
FOR THEIR DEEP ENGAGEMENT AND
OUR WORK AND I'D LIKE TO THANK
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE -- GIVEN
ME OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE WAY
IN MY CAREER THAT HAVE LED ME
TO BE HER TODAY AND FINALLY
-- LAST BUT NOT LEAST I'D LIKE
TO THANK MY HUSBAND AND MY
PARENTS FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO
ARE A SOURCE OF CONSTANT SUPPORT
AND -- BALANCE IN MY LIFE
-- I CAME TO DPR AT LAST JULY
AS ACTING DIRECTOR AND WAS
APPOINTED IN DECEMBER AND
BEFORE THAT WAS AT KELLY P.
A. AS A DEPUTY SECRETARY FOR
PUBLIC POLICY AND WORKED CLOSELY
WITH THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL
AS THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL
HEALTH HAZARD ASSESSMENT I JOIN
KILEY PA AND TWENTY SEVENTEEN
BECAUSE I WAS VERY INTERESTED
IN SUPPORTING THE AGENCY'S
MISSION OF PROTECTING PUBLIC
HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT
FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS AND I'M
VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ROLE
AND DPR BECAUSE IT GIVES ME AN
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK MUCH MORE
CLOSELY WITH THAT MISSION WITH A
DEDICATED TEAM A DPR AS WELL AS
OUR STAKEHOLDERS OUR STATE AND
LOCAL GOVERNMENT PARTNERS AS
WE MOVE TO TRY TO ACCELERATE A
TRANSITION ONTO A SYSTEM WIDE
ADOPTION OF SAFER AND MORE
SUSTAINABLE PEST MANAGEMENT IN A
WAY THAT ENABLES AGRICULTURE AND
OUR RURAL AND URBAN COMMUNITIES
TO CONTINUE TO THRIVE
OUR MISSION DPR IS TO
PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE
ENVIRONMENT IN THE MANAGEMENT
OF PASS IN AGRICULTURAL AND
NON AGRICULTURAL SETTINGS AT A
FOUNDATIONAL LEVEL WE DO THAT
BY REGULATING PESTICIDES FOR
THEIR USE IS SAFE AND AVOIDS
HARM TO THE PUBLIC WORKERS AND
THE ENVIRONMENT WE EVALUATE
RISKS TO HUMAN HEALTH AND THE
ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING RISKS TO
POLLINATORS THE ECOSYSTEM AND
WILDLIFE -- BEFORE PESTICIDES
ARE REGISTERED IN CALIFORNIA
AND WE CONTINUE THAT EVALUATION
AFTER REGISTRATION AND
REQUIRE MEDICATION AS NEEDED
WE ALSO OVERSEES STATEWIDE
ENFORCEMENT OF PESTICIDE LAWS
AND REGULATIONS AND THOSE ARE
ENFORCED LOCALLY BY OUR COUNTY
AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONER
PARTNERS ALSO CENTRAL TO
OUR MISSION IS SUPPORTING
THE USE OF REDUCE RISK PEST
MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND WE'RE
WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH CALLIE
PA CFA AND THE SINGLE PEST
MANAGEMENT WORK GROUP TO MOVE
TOWARD BUILDING A ROAD MAP
FOR A SYSTEM WIDE ADOPTION OF
SUSTAINABLE PEST MANAGEMENT TO
BETTER PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH
AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND THIS IS
THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO MOVE
FORWARD AND AND NOT DIRECTION
FOCUSES ON EQUITY AS WE MOVE
TO BETTER PROTECT THE HEALTH OF
OUR MOST BURDEN COMMUNITIES AND
ALSO PROVIDE THEM WITH ACCESS TO
INFORMATION ABOUT PESTICIDES ARE
APPLIED AROUND THEM CALIFORNIA
LEADS IN SO MANY WAYS AND
WE WANT TO LEAD AS WELL BOTH
FROM THE WAY THAT WE REGULATE
PESTICIDES IN REDUCING THEIR USE
AND ALSO MOST URGENTLY MOVING
TO SAFER AND MORE SUSTAINABLE
PRACTICES AND I WANT TO JUST
NOTE THAT OF THE LAST THIRTY
YEARS THE WORK OF THE DEPARTMENT
HAS DIÇN AND EVALUATING
PESTICIDES IN RESTRICTING THEIR
USE AND ALSO SUPPORTING LOWER
RISK PESTICIDES HAS LED TO
SIGNIFICANT SHIFTS IN PESTICIDE
USE WE DECREASE THE USE
OF ORGANIC PHOSPHATE CHEMICAL OR
PESTICIDES BUT SEVENTY NINE
PERCENT DECREASE GROUNDWATER
CONTAMINANTS BY EIGHTY FIVE
PERCENT HIS USE OF PESTICIDES
LINKED TO CANCER AND BIRTH
DEFECTS FIVE SEVENTY SEVEN
PERCENT AND HAVE INCREASED THE
USE OF BIOPESTICIDES BY SEVEN
HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERCENT
IN MY ROLE AS DIRECTOR I WANT
TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE
SHIFTS TO A SAFER SUSTAINABLE
FUTURE I REALLY APPRECIATE
THE OPPORTUNITY BE BEFORE
YOU TODAY IT'S TRULY AN HONOR
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS
OPENING COMMENTS A GIVEN US
SOME SOME GOOD INFORMATION OUR
DANCE OF OF OUR COMMENTS AND
QUESTIONS CENTER GROVE WILL
BE GO AHEAD AND START WITH YOU
GO AHEAD THANK YOU MADAM FOR TIM
-- WELCOME DIRECTOR HENDERSON
AND -- I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
OPENING COMMENTS I REALLY DO
APPRECIATE YOUR HEART AND WHERE
YOU'RE AT ON THIS ISSUE HAVE --
I TO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD
MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE HAVE
A HEALTHY AND SAFE HEALTH AND
SAFETY HEALTHY SAFE COMMUNITY --
IN THE PUBLIC IS SECURE MY
ISSUE THAT I HAVE I GUESS I
THINK IT HAS TO HAVE BALANCE
MANY OF THE TOP THREE FOOD
PRODUCING COUNTIES IN THE WORLD
THAT I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
REPRESENT AND WE PRODUCE --
A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FOOD FOR
NOT ONLY THIS STATE THIS COUNTRY
BUT THE WORLD AND A LOT OF IT
IS ONLY GROWN IN THE CENTRAL
VALLEY AND NOWHERE ELSE IN THE
WORLD SEVERAL COMMODITIES SO I
GUESS -- SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
THAT I HAVE IS -- THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET INCREASE THAT INCLUDES
A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD PROVIDE
DEEP HERE WITH NEW AUTHORITY TO
LEVY ADMINISTRATIVE PENALTIES
AGAINST WHAT THEY CALL SERIOUS
PESTICIDE VIOLATIONS --
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT KINDS OF
PESTICIDE USE VIOLATIONS DO YOU
THINK -- CAREEN ACROSS OUR STATE
SURE -- THANKS FOR THE QUESTION
AND I JUST DO WANT TO START AN
ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR POINT ABOUT
BALANCE -- AND I THINK IT'S
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS
WE MOVE AHEAD WE REALLY DO HAVE
TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE CONTINUE
TO SUPPORT OUR AGRICULTURAL
ECONOMY IN CALIFORNIA LEAVE
THAT WE CAN DO THAT AND AT
THE SAME TIME MOVED IN WAYS TO
BETTER PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND
ENVIRONMENT SO -- WE MAY COME
BACK TO THAT THAT I JUST WANTED
TO REASSURE YOU ON THAT FRONT
THANK YOU -- BUT WITH RESPECT TO
YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE
VIOLATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING
TO ADDRESS -- I'LL JUST START
BY SAYING THAT THERE IS A ON THE
HOLD VERY STRONG COMPLIANCE AND
CALIFORNIA -- AND THERE IS A LOT
OF WORK THAT'S ON THE GROUND BY
OUR AYE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL
AS BY OUR DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE
TRAINING -- FOR COMPLIANCE --
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH
THE BUDGET CHANGE PROPOSAL IS
TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE AFFECTED
DETERRENTS FOR THOSE WHO ARE
VIOLATING THE PESTICIDE LAWS
AND REGULATIONS IN WAYS THAT
POTENTIALLY CAUSE INJURIES TO
PEOPLE ANSWER THE ENVIRONMENT
SO WHILE IT MAY BE A SMALL
PERCENTAGE OF ACTUAL USE WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FINES
IN PARTICULAR ARE AT LEVELS
THAT CAN BE SAID IN A WAY THAT
DETERS THOSE VIOLATIONS AND
THOSE BOTH LEVELS HAVEN'T BEEN
CHANGED FOR ABOUT TWO DECADES
-- I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT
IN SEEKING TO ADJUST FIND
LEVELS WE'RE NOT IN ANY WAY
-- LIMITING THE DISCRETION
BUT THE COUNTY AYE COMMISSIONERS
HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT FIND
LEVELS ARE APPROPRIATE AND WE
ARE NOT SEEKING TO CHANGE THE
LOWER LEVELS OF THOSE FINES OF
UP THOSE REMAIN THE SAME OKAY
THANK YOU FOR THAT I GUESS
-- YOU EXPLAINED A LITTLE
BIT OF THAT FOR MY SECOND
QUESTION THAT I HAD BECAUSE
THE SECOND QUESTION BUT I
STILL -- AND AGAIN I UNDERSTAND
THAT IT'S A DETERRENT -- BY
THE NUMBERS THAT I HAVE --
SAY THEY'RE VERY VERY FEW
VIOLATIONS I'M IN THE STATE
N. -- SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS
WHY IT'S NECESSARY TO TAKE ALL
THAT AWAY FROM LOCAL CONTROL
AND MAKE IT A STATEWIDE --
SO I THINK I THINK -- THIRTY
TWO PIECES AND SO I JUST WANNA
MAKE SURE THAT I'M ADDRESSING
THE QUESTION CORRECTLY --
THERE ARE FINE LEVELS THAT WE'RE
SEEKING TO SHIFT -- TO ADJUST
AND THEN WE ALSO ARE SEEKING TO
HAVE RESTORED -- SOME LIMITED
-- ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT
AUTHORITY FOR THE DEPARTMENT
AND I THINK THAT MAY BE WHAT
YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT AND --
THE PURPOSE FOR THAT IS REALLY
TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO
EFFECTIVELY CARRY ART CARRY
OUT OUR STATEWIDE ENFORCEMENT
RESPONSIBILITY AND SO THERE
ARE TWO INSTANCES -- THAT
WE FOCUSED ON AND SEEKING TO
HAVE THAT AUTHORITY RESTORED
ONE IS IN CASES WHERE THERE
ARE MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS IN
MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS SO THAT
-- WERE ABLE TO APPROACH THOSE
VIOLATIONS FROM A MORE HOLISTIC
COMPREHENSIVE PERSPECTIVE
RATHER THAN PLACE THAT BURDEN ON
INDIVIDUAL AYE COMMISSIONERS AND
THEN THE SECOND SITUATION WOULD
BE IF AT AND I COMMISSIONER
HAS NOT DISCHARGED DUTIES IN
THE EVENT OF A VIOLATION THAT
RESULTS IN SIGNIFICANT HARM TO
PEOPLE OR TO THE ENVIRONMENT
AND I JUST WANT TO ASSURE
YOU AND AND THE MEMBERS THAT
THAT IS NOT AN ACTION THAT WE
WOULDN'T ANYWAY TAKE LIGHTLY --
WE HAVE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY
WITH THE AYE COMMISSIONER
LEADERSHIP ON THIS LANGUAGE
-- AND DAY I THINK UNDERSTOOD
THE VALUE OF HAVING THE
DEPARTMENT HAVE THE AUTHORITY
TO TAKE ACTION IN A MULTI
JURISDICTIONAL CASE -- AS WELL
AS IF SOMEONE IS NOT ACTING AND
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT AS WELL AND THEN THE OTHER
THING I WOULD JUST MENTION IS
THAT THIS LANGUAGE DOES MIRROR
OTHER AUTHORITY THAT OTHER
STATE WIDE AGENCIES HAVE WHERE
THERE IS THAT BALANCE BETWEEN
STATEWIDE AND LOCAL AUTHORITY
AND REALLY IN A SITUATION
WHERE THERE IS NOT ACTION
BEING TAKEN AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
I UNDERSTAND THE PIECE ABOUT
A MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS OR
MULTIPLE COUNTIES THAT WOULD BE
AFFECTED WHAT WOULD BE D. PR'S
AM EX WITH M. D. PAIRS X. IN
A VIOLATION OF THIRTY DUPLICATE
EFFORTS IN -- LIKE LOCAL COUNTY
AYE COMMISSIONERS WOULD HAVE
WITH A DUPLICATE IT WITH THE
DOUBLE THE FINES ARE NO THAT'S
A REALLY GREAT QUESTION NOW
NOW THIS WOULD BE A SITUATION
WHERE WE WOULD IF WE WERE TO
STOP THEN IT WOULD WE WOULD BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ENFORCEMENT
THERE WOULD NOT BE A DOUBLE
FINE NO DUPLICATION OKAY
-- AND THEN I GUESS --
SO YOU SAID YOU AND I APOLOGIZE
FOR HAVING YOU REPEAT YOURSELF
THAT THE SAID THE FINES AND
PENALTIES ADAM AND REYES SINCE
NGUYEN IN SEVERAL DECADES
IN SEVERAL DECADES WHAT'S
THE -- WITH THE INCREASE
THE DEEP HERE'S CONSIDERING
I'M I DO THERE ARE DIFFERENT
LEVELS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF
VIOLATIONS SO -- I DON'T OFF
THE TOP OF MY HEAD REMEMBER
WHAT EXACTLY THOSE THOSE
LEVELS ARE BUT WE DID LOOK AT
LEVELS -- THAT ARE -- ASSESSED
AT THE OUR PARTNER BOARDS AND
DEPARTMENTS -- AND THOSE ARE
THERE ARE NOT QUITE AS LEVELS
BUT ARE COMPARABLE -- IN TERMS
OF -- PROPORTIONALITY AND
DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE
VIOLATION AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE
WHAT THE OTHER -- THINGS IN
DEPARTMENT -- SO WE'VE ALSO
LOOKED AT -- WATER BOARD THE
-- AIR RESOURCES BOARD AND THE
FINE LEVELS THAT THEY SOUGHT
WHAT'S A FINE LEVEL THAT YOU
WOULD M. THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING
DEPENDING ON THE VIOLATION BUT
JUST A RANGE RIGHT NOW IT'S
BLANK DOLLARS WERE CONSIDERING
RAISING THAT TO LINK DOLLARS
I'M I'M I'M GOING TO TAKE A GAS
AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU IF I'M
NOT CORRECT -- BUT I THINK
-- FOR THE SERIOUS VIOLATIONS
-- WHERE THERE MAY POTENTIALLY
BE HARM TO PUBLIC HEALTH OF THE
ENVIRONMENT I THINK THAT FIX
THE CURRENT LEVEL IS AT FIVE
THOUSAND DOLLARS PER DAY OR PER
VIOLATION AFTER VIOLATION ME
AND I BELIEVE WE WENT UP
TO FOR CIVIL -- PENALTIES
TO TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND BUT
AGAIN I I APOLOGIZE I DON'T
REMEMBER EXACTLY AND I WOULD BE
HELP WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH
THOSE FINALS YEAH NO ABSOLUTELY
NO YOU'RE IN THE ROOM EARLIER
LIKE I SAID I HAVE A SMALL I
HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS AND THEN
SOMEBODY ASKED ME ACCOUNTING
QUESTION I HAVE TO HAVE MICHELLE
SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ME AND
THEY ASKED ME TO THE QUESTION
OF THE GLORIOUS CITY RIGHT NEXT
WEEK TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION
SO I COMPLETELY GET IT AM I
UNDERSTAND THE DEEP HERE IS IN
THE PROCESS OF COLLECTING PUBLIC
INPUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
STATEWIDE PESTICIDE APPLICATION
NOTIFICATION SYSTEM -- MY
CONSTITUENT FARMERS HAVE SHARED
CONCERNS THAT -- THEY
DON'T HAVE A SAFE SPACE IN THE
REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE
-- WHEN THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS
COME OUT THE OPPOSITION IS SO
-- I WANNA SEE AGGRESSIVE
BUT SO INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS
THAT WHEN FARMERS BEGIN TO
SPEAK THE AUDIENCE ARE WRAPPED
IN THEIR VOICES ARE DROWNED OUT
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU
IS -- THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE
BEING BULLIED OR SHOUTED DOWN
AND YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'RE DOING
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS YOU CAN
EVEN HEAR WHAT THEY'RE SAYING
BECAUSE THE AUDIENCE IS YELLING
THE OPPOSITION AUDIENCES YELLING
SO MUCH IS I KNOW WE CAN'T
RESTRICT PEOPLE'S FREEDOM OF
SPEECH I'M NOT ASKING THAT TO
HAPPEN BUT IS THERE SOMETHING
THAT CAN BE DONE TO MAKE SURE
THAT EVERYBODY'S VOICES ARE
HEARD BECAUSE WHEN THE WHEN THE
WHEN I WAS IN OPPOSITION BUT
WHEN THE WHEN THE OTHER OPPOSITE
SIDE IS SPEAKING THE FARMERS
DON'T YELL AND DROWN THEM OUT
THEY'RE VERY RESPECTFUL OF THE
TIME THEY SAID THERE THAT THE
OPPOSITE SIDE HAS TO SPEAK BUT
WHEN THE FARMERS ARE SPEAKING
IT'S A COMPLETELY I DON'T KNOW
IF YOU WATCHED ANY OF THESE
HEARINGS I HAVE -- AND IT'S
A REALLY VERY DISRUPTIVE AND YOU
CAN'T HEAR THE FARMERS OR SEEN
FARMERS OR SEEN MY CONSTITUENTS
WHICH FOR THE FARMERS ARE
SAYING THAT WHEN THEY GO TO
THESE HEARINGS IN THE CITY
VIDEOS TO WATCH AND IT'S TRUE
AND THEY CAN'T EVEN HAVE A
PUBLIC VOICE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE
THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR
POINT ACROSS YOU CAN'T LISTEN
M. BECAUSE THE NOISE
IN THE BACKGROUND I GUESS
THANK YOU SENATOR AND I'LL
JUST START BY SAYING THAT
PROVIDING THIS KIND OF PUBLIC
NOTICE OF PESTICIDE APPLICATIONS
-- IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING NEW
AND -- OF GREAT INTEREST TO
-- COMMUNITIES PARTICULARLY
IN AGRICULTURAL AREAS AND
-- RECOGNIZE THAT THAT
CHANGE IS -- SIGNIFICANT
AND IT HAS CAUSED A LOT
OF CONCERN -- AND INTEREST
ON MULTIPLE SIDES -- OF THE
ISSUE AND -- REALLY
UNDERSTAND -- THE THAT IS
A CONCERN AND POINT THAT
IF IT IS A CHALLENGING ISSUE AND
THESE THESE WORKSHOPS THAT WE'VE
BEEN CONDUCTING -- I SHOULD NOTE
MAYBE JUST A STEP BACK WE BEGAN
WITH -- FOCUS GROUPS LAST AUGUST
-- THAT WERE SEPARATED OUT
BY BY INTEREST GROUPS AND NINE
WE HAVE WEBINARS IN THE FALL
AND WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF --
A SET OF WORKSHOPS THIS WEEK AND
-- AND MOTIONS ARE RUNNING HIGH
AND IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING
ISSUE AND UNDERSTAND AND
APPRECIATE -- THE NEED TO HAVE
A SPACE WHERE STAKEHOLDERS
BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE
INPUT IN A WAY THAT THEY CAN BE
HEARD AND WILL NOT BE --
DISRESPECTED AND SO WE HAVE
TRIED -- JUST AS WE'VE MOVED
ALONG IN THESE WORKSHOPS TO
PROVIDE THAT KIND OF GUIDANCE TO
WHO ARE PARTICIPATING -- AND
ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING
WAYS THAT WE CAN BE SURE
THAT ALL STAKEHOLDERS HAVE A
VOICE THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM
I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A
WAY FOR US TO DEVELOP THE
STATEWIDE ABOUT NOTIFICATION
SYSTEM THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE I
THINK HELPING TO -- CREATE
A SPACE WHERE THERE'S BETTER
COMMUNICATION -- BETWEEN
COMMUNITIES AND AND GROWERS AND
AYE COMMISSIONERS IS SOMETHING
THAT I'M WORKING ACTIVELY ON
AND CONSIDER A REALLY IMPORTANT
PART OF MY JOB SO I VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE THE CONCERN THAT
YOU REYES AND -- ENSURING THAT
ALL STAKEHOLDERS HAVE A VOICE
AND THE WORK THAT WE DO IS IS
CRITICAL AND AGAIN I CONSIDER A
REAL PRIORITY FOR ME THANK YOU
YOU KNOW IN THE SAYS GOING BACK
TO STATEWIDE NOTIFICATION SYSTEM
OR THE NOTIFICATION SYSTEM
WHO'S THE INTENDED AUDIENCE
IS A COMMUNITY WHOSE
INTENDED AUDIENCE SO THE
THE GOAL OF DEVELOPING A
STATEWIDE SYSTEM IS TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC INFORMATION -- ABOUT
PESTICIDE APPLICATIONS THAT
ARE HAPPENING NEAR PEOPLE AND
SO WHAT WE'RE WORKING TO DO
IS ENSURE THAT -- THERE IS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR TRANSPARENT
AND AND PUBLIC ACCESS TO
THAT INFORMATION -- IN A WAY
THAT COMPLEMENTS OUR EXISTING
PESTICIDE REGULATORY SYSTEM
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
WE RECOGNIZED IS THAT THERE'S
AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT THAT
NEEDS TO GO ALONG WITH THIS TO
HOLD HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND
THAT WE ARE OPERATING IN A
REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT WHERE
THE DEPARTMENT DOES REGULATE
PESTICIDE USE AND WE DO HAVE
-- SYSTEMS IN PLACE THAT ENSURE
THE THE SAFE APPLICATION OF
PESTICIDES AND SO THAT'S PART
OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD
WITH THIS AS WELL -- BUT THE
GOAL IS TO PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS
TO THIS INFORMATION THANK YOU
I'M HERE TO SPREE SAFE YES
YES OKAY AND WHAT JUST OUT OF
CURIOSITY WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS
ON FREE SAFE AND REASON WHY
I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE A LOT
OF OUR FARMERS GET TOGETHER IF
THEY PAY FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES
TO COME TO OUR BIG -- HALL
AT THE FAIRGROUNDS THERE'S
THREE OR FOUR THOUSAND PEOPLE
PACKED IN THERE AND THEY PROVIDE
THEM LUNCH AND EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES SO JUST CURIOUS
WHAT YOUR THOUGHT WAS ON THREE
SAFE I THINK IT'S A TERRIFIC
VAN AND AND TYPE OF VIOLENT
THAT THAT TAKES PLACE I WENT
TO THE EVENT AND KERN COUNTY
THIS YEAR -- AND WAS VERY
IMPRESSED IT'S -- I THINK A
TREMENDOUS EFFORT FIVE -- THE
AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY PUTS ON
AND IT'S A GREAT SERVICE AND
I THINK WE AT THE DEPARTMENT
SUPPORT THOSE KINDS OF BANDS AND
PARTICIPATE AND WANT TO BE
ABLE TO USE EVENTS LIKE THAT
TO TRY TO BRIDGE I THINK SOME
OF THE THE CHALLENGES THAT
WERE -- CONFRONTING AT THE
MOMENT -- AND IN TERMS OF --
I THINK BOTH ARE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS AS WELL AS FARMWORKERS
UNDERSTANDING BUT -- THERE
THERE IS A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER
WITH -- AYE COMMISSIONERS AS
WELL AS GROWERS AND WITH THE
DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE'RE ALL
WE ALL CAN WORK TOGETHER TO
ENSURE THAT PESTICIDES ARE USED
SAFELY -- AND RESPONSIBLY AND
AND ALSO THAT WE'RE WORKING
TOGETHER TO MOVE TO PASS
MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT USE
LESS RISKY -- PAST MANAGEMENT
TOOLS AND THAT'S THAT'S A PART
OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH
THE SYSTEM WILL PRESIDENTIAL
WORKGROUP OKAY WELL THANK YOU
I JUST AM I WANTED TO MAKE
SURE PRESS RESET YOUR ATTENTION
IS THAT IS A COLLABORATION OF
FARMERS AND FARM WORKERS AND
ENSURE THAT WE FIT TOGETHER IN
THE CENTRAL VALLEY JUST TO TRY
TO BRIDGE THAT GAP AND TRY TO
MAKE SURE THAT EVEN THAT THE
FARMWORKERS UNDERSTOOD WHAT
WHAT IF THEY FELT UNSAFE IN A
STATE WITH THE MEASURES THEY
NEED TO TAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY AREN'T EXPOSED TO HARMFUL
PESTICIDES IN THE FARMERS AS
WELL AND AND I JUST REALLY WANT
YOU TO KNOW THAT WE REALLY DO
GROW FOOD IN AND NOW WE'RE NOT
THE ENEMY TOTALLY UNDERSTAND
AND BELIEVE THAT THANK YOU
SO MUCH CENTER THANK YOU
WONDERFUL DAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH MEADOW VICE CHAIR
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
AND -- MISUNDERSTOOD I DO
APOLOGIZE I WASN'T IN HERE
AS LIKE WHEN YOU GAVE YOUR
INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS BUT I
THINK OF MY COLLEAGUE WITH THE
NUMBER OF THE QUESTIONS THAT
SHE ALSO WENT TO THE HEART OF
SOME THAT I HAVE -- TO CLEARLY
CONCERNED ABOUT SOMETHING THAT
STRUCK FEAR IN THE HEARTS OF --
I THINK ARE A COMMUNITY AND ARE
IN GREATER BUSINESS SAW ACTUALLY
ANNOUNCE WINTER FREEZE APPEARED
ON GOVERNU SONS MAY REVISED
BUDGET SLICE IT SAID BANNING
PAT IT WAS THE PHRASE BANNING
PESTICIDES PESTICIDES AND I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ON THE
RECORD TO YOU SHARE WHAT YOU
THINK THAT MOUNT DOES THAT MEAN
ALL PESTICIDES -- IT WILL THERE
BE A PUBLIC PROCESSES WE GO
FORWARD WHICH ONES STAY IN GOING
IN PARTICULAR ARE ALONG WITHOUT
INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED
ME WITH OF THE CONCERN ABOUT A
SPECIFIC OF SPECIES THAT IS
ATTACKING OUR WINE GRAPES THE
LANTERN FLY IN THAT IF WE ARE
MOVING VERY RAPIDLY FORWARD
IN YOU KNOW THE ELIMINATION
OF PESTICIDES IT REALLY
TAKE CARE OF THESE BRAND NEW
INVASIVE SPECIES -- WHAT IS THE
DEPARTMENT GOING TO BE DOING
TO TAKE A LONG HARD LOOK AT
HOW COACH THAT IF THE LONG
LONG TERM APPROACH IS TO GET
RID OF PESTICIDES AND THAT
THAT JUST DOESN'T THE SEEMS
INCONGRUOUS WITH THE FACT THAT
ALL THOSE LITTLE BUGS OUT THERE
ARE THERE AND -- THERE ARE SO
MANY OF THEM IN FACT I THINK
IT'S -- IN SCIENCE FICTION IT
SHOWS THAT THEY MIGHT THEY MIGHT
STAY LONGER ON PLANET EARTH
AND THEN THE HUMAN SPECIES BUT
WELL JUST THOUGHT HELD THAT TO
YOU KNOW IF YOU COULD GIVE THEM
A NICE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION ON
THAT ISSUE I THINK IT WOULD BE
VERY HELPFUL AND ALSO PROBABLY
RELAY SOME OF THE FEARS THAT
DEVELOP WHEN SOMETHING LIKE
THIS YEAR'S THANK YOU SENATOR
M. I WILL START BY SAYING I
THE THE SLIDE THAT WAS
PART OF -- THE GOVERNOR'S
PRESENTATION I THINK
WAS INTENDED TO REFER TO
FOR PURIFIES -- AND AS
-- AS YOU MAY KNOW THE
THE SCIENCE ENCORE PURIFIES HAVE
DEMONSTRATED THAT IT WAS A GREAT
RISK -- TO CHILDREN'S DEVELOPING
BRAINS AND THAT WAS WHY DID
DEPARTMENT TOOK ACTION ON THAT
PARTICULAR PESTICIDE -- WHAT
WE LEARNED -- AS PART OF THAT
PROCESS WE WE DID PUT TOGETHER
-- AND WORKING GROUP THE CLERK
PROVIDES ALTERNATIVES WORKING
GROUP TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES
ON TO HELP SUPPORT -- GROWERS
AND HAVING ALTERNATIVE TOOLS
TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE PASS ON
TO DEAL WITH THE LOSS OF THAT
PARTICULAR TOOL -- AND ONE
OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
CAME OUT OF THAT GROUP --
WHICH WAS A GROUP OF -- MULTI
STAKEHOLDER GROUP WITH WITH
GROWERS -- ACADEMICS RESEARCHERS
-- AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND
AND I COMMISSIONER AND THEY
RECOMMENDED WE REALLY NEED TO
STEP BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT
THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE AND NOT
GO PESTICIDE BY PESTICIDE --
IN DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES
BUT ALSO PLAN AHEAD SO THAT
AS WE ARE IDENTIFYING RISKS
ASSOCIATED WITH PARTICULAR
PESTICIDES THAT WERE WORKING
-- AGGRESSIVELY TO IDENTIFY
ALTERNATIVES AND ALSO TO ENSURE
THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE OUR
REGION EDUCATION FOR SUSTAINABLE
PRACTICES THAT DON'T REQUIRE
THE USE OF PESTICIDES AND SO
THAT LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF
THE EXISTING WORKING GROUP THE
SINGLE PEST MANAGEMENT WORKING
GROUP THAT IS REALLY FOCUSING
ON DEVELOPING A ROAD MAP FOR
HOW WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE
WE'RE USING MORE SUSTAINABLE
PRACTICES AS A SYSTEM -- AND
A LARGE PART OF THE DISCUSSION
THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING HAS
BEEN AROUND THE NEED TO PLAN
AND HAVE TIME TO DEVELOP
ALTERNATIVES HAVE TIME TO
EDUCATE GROWERS OF ALL SIZES --
WAYS IN WHICH THEY CAN USE A FOR
TOOLS AND AND HOLD OFF ON USING
THOSE THAT ARE MORE HAZARDOUS
UNLESS THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO
SO -- IN DIRECT
ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THERE'S
NOT AN INTENT TO BAN ALL
PESTICIDES -- TO THE CONTRARY
WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO
IS WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATIVE
LEE AMONG ALL STAKEHOLDERS SO
THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY A PLAN OUT
INTO THE FUTURE THAT SUPPORTS
THE DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVES
AND THAT THE USE OF SAFER MORE
SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES AND I
THINK CENTER GROVE GETTING BACK
TO YOUR POINT WORKING TOGETHER
SO THAT WE'RE NOT WORKING AT
ODDS AND AGAINST EACH OTHER
THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER --
I SIT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY COMMITTEE ON FOR THE
SENATE AND -- THERE ARE SO
MANY PIECES OF LEGISLATION
THAT COME TO US LET'S USE P.
FOLLOWS THE EXAMPLE THAT SEEKS
TO HAVE THE MEASURED IN EVERY
SINGLE YOU KNOW A COMMODITY
THAT'S THERE HAVE THEM DOWN
WITH A NOT A LOT OF COMFORT
LEVEL ON THE TIME LINE AND
THE REPLACEMENT FOR THAT THAT
WE HEAR FROM THOSE WHO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION NOT TO THE
ELIMINATION OF THEM BUT THE WHAT
IS GOING TO COME IN THEIR PLACE
SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS --
DO YOU WORK CLOSELY WITH
OUR CONSULTANTS THAT ARE ON
COMMITTEES LIKE E. Q. SO THAT
WHEN WE GET LEGISLATION THAT
HAS A TIME LINE IN IT THAT
WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THAT
LIKE VANISH THAT -- THAT IS
A REALISTIC ONE IN TERMS THE
FINANCE THAT'S OUT THERE THE
RESEARCH THAT'S OUT THERE ON
REPLACEMENT AND I THINK THAT'S
PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO AND
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INVASIVE
SPECIES AND HOW QUICKLY WE
CAN COME UP WITH A SUBSTITUTE
TO AT TO READ TO KEEP THOSE
ARM AND IN A TIMELY MANNER
BEFORE THEY DO THEIR DESTRUCTION
BUT TAKING AWAY WHAT WE HAVE
NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT WORKS
SO WELL -- SIMPLY STATED
HOW CLOSE ARE YOU WORKING WITH
OUR CONSULTANTS THAT ARE ON
COMMITTEES LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY WHO REVIEW THE
LEGISLATION INPUT TIME LINES
IN THERE AND DON'T RELEASE
B. I THINK THAT DIRECTLY
FRANKLY ABOUT THE FACT THAT
WE'RE ON THE ROAD ON THE
PATH INTO A REPLACEMENT THAT
WILL DO THE JOB WE NEED DONE
THANK YOU SENATOR I AM AND
WHO LISTA DE CONSULTORES HERE
WITH ME TODAY ARE LEGISLATIVE
DIRECTOR -- IT WORKS CLOSELY
WITH THE LEGISLATURE -- TO HELP
PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT AND
WE ARE GOING TO BE RELEASING
-- THE SIMPLE PAST MANAGEMENT
WORKGROUP ROAD MAP SOMETIME
THIS SUMMER AND PLAN TO --
OFFER OPPORTUNITIES TO GET
TOGETHER WITH LEGISLATIVE --
STAFF TO SHARE WHAT THE
PROPOSAL LOOKS LIKE AND I
THINK IT WILL GET TO EXACTLY
THE CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE OF
HOW ARE WE SETTING GOALS THAT
ARE REALISTIC AND ACHIEVABLE
AND PROVIDE TIMELINES AND AND
YOU KNOW IDENTIFY WHAT SUPPORT
IS NEEDED TO TO GET THEIR
IT'S GREAT TO HEAR BECAUSE THAT
WAS THE CERTAINLY IN TODAY'S
DISCUSSION ON A COUPLE OF THE
BILL SO THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT
IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE IN
WITH THREE POLICEMEN COUPLE
ISSUES THAT COVERS A QUITE
A DIFFERENT TOWN GROUP OF OF
DIFFERENT PIECES OF LEGISLATION
CAME FORWARD I THINK OUR MOST OF
MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED
-- CERTAINLY NOT AND COLLEAGUES
ARE QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR
THIS SO -- AGAIN THANK YOU
FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THANK YOU
CENTER THANK YOU MADAM VICE
CHAIR SENATOR KAMLAGER THANK
YOU MAN I'M PER TIME I JUST
HAVE A A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS
-- FRIEND THANK YOU FOR TALKING
ABOUT -- THE RISKS THAT ARE
OUT THERE AND -- ALTERNATIVES
TO SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL
PESTICIDES -- YOU KNOW I WAS AT
AN EVENT OVER THE WEEKEND IN MY
DISTRICT -- CELEBRATING BEES
AND -- YOU KNOW THEY ARE THE
GREAT POLLINATORS AND SOME OF
THE HARDEST WORKING SYNDICATE
BIAN'S ON THE PLANET IN THERE
ALSO -- UNDER DURESS
BECAUSE OF PESTICIDE USE
AND SO JUST INTERESTED IN --
YOUR THOUGHTS ON OTHER WAYS
THAT WE CAN BE INVOLVED IN
LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES TO
SOME OF THE TRADITIONALLY
HAZARDOUS PESTICIDES THAT ARE
CURRENTLY BEING USED BECAUSE
OUT WE CERTAINLY OBVIOUSLY YOU
KNOW DON'T WANT TO BE EATING
IT -- BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT
TO HAVE THESE TOXINS KILLING
-- THE VERY CREATURES THAT ARE
ALSO HELPING -- TO POLLINATE
-- AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
FOOD THAT IS BLOOMING AND
EDIBLE AND GROWING EXCITER
THANK YOU SENATOR AND --
POLLINATOR PROTECTION IS IS
VERY TOP OF MIND FOR US OF THE
DEPARTMENT AND YOU MAY KNOW THAT
WE A PROPOSED A FAIRLY
COMPREHENSIVE REGULATIONS -- TO
MITIGATE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH
AGRICULTURAL USE OF OF FOUR
DIFFERENT NEONICOTINOIDS --
EARLIER THIS YEAR -- WE
ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF
CONDUCTING -- HUMAN HEALTH
RISK ASSESSMENT ON THE USE
OF NEONICOTINOIDS AND ARE
MONITORING CLOSELY M. U. S.
EPA WORK THAT'S BEING DONE --
TO EVALUATE THEIR POTENTIAL
EXPOSURE AS WELL -- WE HAVE
WORKED TOGETHER WITH ON
THE DEPARTMENT OF FOOD AND
AGRICULTURE AND THE COUNTY AG
COMMISSIONERS TO DEVELOP A BE
WHERE PROGRAM WHICH REALLY
FACILITATES THE KIND OF --
COORDINATION A NOTIFICATION
-- ABOUT THE USE OF PARTICULAR
PESTICIDES -- THAT MAY BE
HARMFUL TO BEES SO THE BEES ARE
NOT PRESENT WHEN THOSE ARE --
OP APPLIED -- BUT I THINK
-- THE BIGGER PICTURE QUESTION
OF WHAT CAN WE DO TO MOVE
TO -- THE USE OF THE TEST
MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT ARE
SAFER IS REALLY AT THE CORE
OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE
SEASONAL PEST MANAGEMENT WORK
GROUP AND I THINK -- WHAT
WILL BE COMING OUT WITH THAT
RECOMMENDATION IS OF THE TYPES
OF INVESTMENTS AND THAT CAN BE
-- SUPPORTED -- THAT WILL HELP
US GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE
BOTH DEVELOPING NEW TOOLS
AND AND SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES
AS WELL AS CONDUCTING THE KIND
OF OUTREACH AND EDUCATION THAT
IS REALLY ESSENTIAL -- FOR
FARMERS OF ALL SIZES -- TO BE
ABLE TO ADOPT SYSTEMS THAT
ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO MANAGE
ENVIRONMENTS AND -- IN A SAFER
AND MORE SUSTAINABLE WAY --
AND I THINK PART OF WHAT HAS
HAPPENED OVER TIME WHEN WE'VE
HAD BUDGET CRISES IS SOME OF THE
FUNDING -- THAT WAS PROVIDED TO
YOU SEE TO PROVIDE THAT KIND OF
OUTREACH WAS CUT AND WE'RE NOW
IN THE PROCESS OF REBUILDING
THANKS TO THE LEGISLATURE'S
FUNDING OF THE LAST YEAR TO
-- BUILD BACK UP -- THAT YOU
SEE RESOURCE BUT I THINK THAT'S
ONE OF THE THINGS ON THAT YOU'LL
SEE WITH -- WITH RECOMMENDATIONS
COMING OUT OF THE WORKGROUP
THANK YOU FOR THAT MY
RUSSIAN ATHLETES HAVE TO --
YOU KNOW WITH AND GUESS --
DVR JUST RELEASED A PROPOSAL
FOR STATEWIDE PESTICIDE
NOTIFICATIONS -- IN RESPONSE
TO A GETS A CALL FROM COMMUNITY
MEMBERS ON THE FRONT LINES --
WHO WANNA KNOW WHAT CHEMICALS
ARE BEING USED IN WHERE --
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES AND I GUESS IT SEEMS
LIKE THE PROPOSAL DIDN'T INCLUDE
THE EXACT LOCATION AND WAS
JUST THE SQUARE MILE SECTION
-- AND SO I THINK THE CONCERN
IS WITHOUT EXACT LOCATION
NOTIFICATION I CAN'T REALLY BE
CONSIDERED A NOTIFICATION AT
I GUESS IT'S LIKE SAYING HEY
PESTICIDES ARE IN MIDTOWN --
SO JUST WANT TO KNOW YOUR
THOUGHTS ON HOW THAT IS BEING
ADDRESSED IS OR WHAT EFFORTS
BECAUSE I THINK AT THE HEART
OF IT IS HOW WE MAKING SURE
THAT WE'RE PROTECTING NO LET
NEXT LOW INCOME FARMWORKERS WHO
ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY NEED
TO DO TO PROTECT THEMSELVES
AND MAYBE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT
GETTING -- ACCURATE INFORMATION
THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL
THANKS FOR THE QUESTION YES
SO WE ARE -- IN THE MIDST OF
A HARDWARE ON THE LAST DAY WE'VE
HAD THREE WORKSHOPS THIS WEEKEND
WE HAVE THE FINAL ONE TONIGHT
AND THE INTEREST AND
OF MORE -- SPECIFIC
LOCATION IDENTIFICATION HAS
HAS DEFINITELY BEEN A THEME
THAT HAS -- BEEN RAISED AS
AS WE'VE BEEN IN THE PROCESS
OF DEVELOPING THE SYSTEM WE
ARE STILL IN THAT PROCESS OF
DEVELOPMENT -- WE ARE PILOTING
FOR LOCAL -- NOTIFICATION
SYSTEMS AND DIFFERENT COUNTIES
-- I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE
THERE'S A TECHNICAL CHALLENGE
-- THAT WERE TRYING TO MANAGE
AND NOT WE'RE BUILDING ON
AN EXISTING SYSTEM THAT
REGULATES RESTRICTED MATERIALS
AND THE INFORMATION THAT'S
PROVIDED AS PART OF THAT
PROCESS PROVIDES INFORMATION
AND NOT SQUARE MILE AREA
AND SO WE ARE --
THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE
REASON WHY WE HAVE PROPOSED
THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF LOCATION
BECAUSE IT'S WERE WORKING
WITHOUT EXISTING SYSTEM WERE
ALSO BALANCING THE INTEREST
OF HAVING A SYSTEM UP AND
RUNNING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
AND SO WE'RE I WOULD SAY WERE
IN THE PROCESS OF -- BALANCING
-- TECHNICAL CHALLENGES AND
TIME -- AND HAVE NOT YET MADE
FINAL DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT
THE LOCATION WILL LOOK LIKE
THANK YOU FOR THAT I DON'T HAVE
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THANK
YOU SENATOR WELL THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR ALL OF THE THOUGHTFUL
RESPONSES TO THE MANY MANY
QUESTIONS I THINK WHAT WE'RE
GONNA DO NOW BECAUSE I DON'T
HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD IS
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD TO THOSE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION AND WE WILL START
HERE HI IN ROOM TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT SO LET
ME INVITE YOU FORWARD NAME
ORGANIZATION IF ANY AND VERY
BRIEF COMMENTS WELCOME MADAM
PRO TEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
LOUIS BROWN TODAY ON BEHALF
OF CALIFORNIA CITRUS MUTUAL IN
SUPPORT OF THE CONFIRMATION OF
DIRECTOR JULIE HENDERSON OUR
CEO AND PRESIDENT CASEY CRAMER
HI HAS SPENT CONSIDERABLE
TIME WITH THE DIRECTOR HAS A
MEMBER OF THIS SUSTAINABLE PEST
MANAGEMENT WORKING GROUP WE DO
FINDER TO BE BALANCED WE FIND
HER TO BE A GOOD COMMUNICATOR
WITH FINER SOMEONE LOOKING TO
FIND COMPROMISE ON THESE VERY
TECHNICAL COMPLICATED ISSUES AND
SO WE WISH YOU THE BEST IN WHAT
MAY BE THE MOST DIFFICULT JOB
IN STATE GOVERNMENT THESE DAYS
AND LOOK FOR TO WORKING WITH
HER AS SHE'S CONFIRMED THANK YOU
THANK YOU SO MUCH NEXT WITNESS
HELLO MY NAME IS KRISTIN MURPHY
AND I'M A FACILITATOR FOR THE
CALIFORNIANS FOR PESTICIDE
REFORM COALITION MISS HENDERSON
JOINS THE DEPARTMENT AT THE
TIME OF TRANSFORMATIONAL
POTENTIAL WITNESSES AS
INCREASINGLY RECOGNIZING
THEIR ROLE AND BEEN WATER AND
AIR POLLUTION POLLINATOR AN
ECOSYSTEM COLLAPSE CLIMATE
CHANGE IN RACIAL INJUSTICE
THIS RECOGNITION IS ACCOMPANIED
BY A GROWING WILLINGNESS TO
INCLUDE PESTICIDES IN A ROLE
FOR DPR IN PLANS AND INITIATIVES
WHERE THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY
EXCLUDED MISS HENDERSON IS A
SKILLED COMMUNICATOR I AM ABLE
TO BUILD BRIDGES BETWEEN MANY
STAKEHOLDERS DPR SERVICE WHOSE
INTERESTS AND PRIORITIES ARE
FREQUENTLY IN CONFLICT WITH EACH
OTHER SHE'S WORKED HARD TO BRING
CAN COUNTY AG COMMISSIONERS
INTO CONVERSATION COOPERATION
WILL ALSO MAKING SURE THE
COMMUNITY CONCERNS ARE HEARD AND
PRIORITIZED WITH KNOWLEDGE THE
TREMENDOUS DIFFICULTY INHERENT
TO PURSUING A MISSION TO PROTECT
HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT
BY REGULATING PESTICIDES WHICH
ARE CHEMICALS DESIGNED TO KILL
LIVING ORGANISMS AND WE BELIEVE
MISS HENDERSON HOW THE NECESSARY
QUALITIES EXPERIENCE AND
EXPERTISE TO LEAD THE DEPARTMENT
IN A TIME OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGE
ASK YOU TO CONFIRM SANDERSON
IS DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT OF
PESTICIDE REGULATION THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT WITNESS
GOOD AFTERNOON TRACY
GARINGER WITH AGRICULTURAL
COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA ALSO
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF MISS
HENDERSON'S COMMENDATION
AND APPOINTMENTS AS DIRECTOR
OF DEPARTMENT OF PESTICIDE
REGULATION THE OUTREACH ON
A VERY EXTENSIVE OUT REACH
WITH MANY OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS
I'M VERY CONTENTIOUS ISSUES
HAS BEEN QUITE INCREDIBLE
AND VERY HOPEFUL AS WE WORK
ON REALLY SERIOUS ISSUES
AN AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY
THAT WE VERY MUCH SUPPORT
DISAPPOINTMENTS THANK YOU
THANK YOU SO MUCH NEXT WITNESS
I'M SURE MEMBERS DOMINIC
TOMORROW HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE PEST CONTROL OPERATORS OF
CALIFORNIA AND I WOULD ENDORSE
THE REMARKS OF MR BROWN A
MISCARRIAGE -- AND SIMPLY ADD
THAT -- MISUNDERSTAND HAS BEEN
A GREAT PARTNER TO THE INDUSTRY
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH HER OVER THE COURSE OF
HER YEARS AS THE DIRECTOR
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK
YOU SO MUCH OTHER WITNESSES
OKAY SEE NO ONE ELSE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED I'M GOING TO
WELCOME BACK OUR MODERATOR LET
ME -- MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS ON
THE SCREEN AGAIN -- THE TOLL
FREE NUMBER IS EIGHT SEVEN
SEVEN TWO TWO SIX EIGHT ONE
SIX THREE ACCESS CODE IS SIX
ZERO ONE FOUR EIGHT THREE TWO
MISTER MODERATOR WELCOME BACK
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WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT PLEASE
PRESS ONE ZERO AT THE TIME
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AT THE TIME WE DO OF
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THEY WILL START WITH NUMBER
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GOOD AFTERNOON THIS IS JAMIE
CAN YOU CALLING ON BEHALF
OF THE COMMUNITY ALLIANCE
WITH FAMILY FARMERS HAVE
ON BOARD NOMINATION
AND APPOINTMENT P. R.
DEMONSTRATED STRONG COMMITMENT
STRONG LEADERSHIP ON IN ABOUT
FIVE MANAGEMENT ISSUES INCLUDING
ON VARIOUS WORKING GROUPS
AGENCIES CHANGES INSTRUCTORS
AND MORE I'M REALLY LOOK
FORWARD TO HER LEADERSHIP AND
THANKS VERY MUCH THANK
YOU VERY MUCH NEXT WITNESS
NUMBER ONE FORTY THREE
ONE FORTY THREE PLEASE GO AHEAD
THANK YOU ARE GOOD AFTERNOON
MY NAME IS MARGARET REACHED
-- THANK YOU YOUR SITE THIS
IS A PESTICIDE ACTION NETWORK
-- THAT I ACTUALLY
AUDIBLE I CAN HEAR YOU YES
MA'AM GO RIGHT AHEAD THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT NETWORK
ON A SCHOOL FUNDING MEMBERS OF
THE CALIFORNIANS FOR PESTICIDE
REFORM STATEWIDE COALITION
-- IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
MISUNDERSTANDING -- -- MOTIONS
FILED A REPORT WITH HER BOTH IN
HER CURRENT POSITION AS HIGHER
POSITION THAT CALCULATE HOW
I'M THRILLED TO BE CONSISTENTLY
AVAILABLE FOR CONSTITUENCIES ARE
OPEN AND HONEST I HAD
THE HONOR OF WORKING WITH AS A
MEMBER OF THE OFFICE MANAGEMENT
FOR THE JEWS FOR --
SHE HAS BEEN A VERY DISCIPLINED
AND IS CLEARLY WORKING ON BEHALF
OF BOTH UP FORM OF POLLUTION
OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT PESTICIDE USE
-- -- WANTING MORE INFORMATION
ON SUSTAINABLE ALTERNATIVE SO
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OTHER WITNESSES
WE'LL GO TO NUMBER ONE FIFTY
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS MY
NAME IS ALEX I'M SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF THE FOLDING GROUP
GOING FOR ENERGY COMMISSION
CALIFORNIANS FOR PESTICIDE
REFORM WITHOUT OUR COULD NOT
WORK AND WE ADVOCATING FOR
CHEMICAL AND TOXIC THE FEET
AND THE CALIFORNIA RURAL LEGAL
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH OTHER WITNESSES
AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NO OTHERS
INNER YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WE'LL BE BACK WITH YOU IN A
MOMENT LET ME COME BACK
INTO ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANYONE WHO
WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
OKAY SEEING NO ONE --
LET ME COME BACK TO YOU --
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FOR THOSE OF WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO
IN ONE ZERO FOR OPPOSITION
AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT HAVE
ANYONE IN OUR QUEUE THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE
-- MISTER MODERATOR WE HAVE
ONE MORE SET WILL BE BACK
TO YOU AT A IN A FEW MINUTES
OKAY LET ME COME BACK MINIMIZED
HERE IT IS ME AND YOU AND I'D
BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN COMMENTS
OR EMOTION CHAU REMOVED
THANK YOU I THANK YOU MADAM
VICE CHAIR -- MADAM SECRETARY
WE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
GROWTH HERTZBERG KAMLAGER
BATES WE HAVE SEEN
BATES ABSTAINED ATKINS HI
A CONCISE THANK YOU SO
MUCH MISS HENDERSON WE HAVE
PLENTY OF MEMBERS THAT ARE
GOING TO BE BACK AND FORWARD
BASED ON OTHER COMMITTEES SO
-- MAKE SURE WE WILL LET
YOU KNOW HOW THIS GOES BUT I
WANT TO THANK YOU TODAY FOR
YOUR EXPERTISE CLEARLY YOU HAD
-- THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE
FROM VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS IN
SUPPORT OF YOUR WORK AND --
OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE BALANCING YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH WITH
ALL STAKEHOLDERS SO WANT TO
SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
AND WE WILL CONTINUE ON I
AM GOING TO ASK FOR OF MADAM
VICE CHAIR JUST ONE WHO LIVES
SKEWS ME LET YOU KNOW ABOUT TOM
I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR INTRODUCTORY
COMMENTS AND I DID GET VERY
GOOD REPORT ON YEAR ON ABILITY
TO MEET WITH PEOPLE YOUR
ACCESSIBILITY I JUST HAVE TO
CHECK OUT A FEW MORE THINGS
SO I'M GONNA BE IN AND CAN
BE TODAY THAT TIME I DIDN'T
WANT YOU TO TAKE ANY OF THE
MESSAGE FROM OUT THAT YOU'RE
NOT VERY QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB
IT'S A DIFFICULT ONE AND THERE'S
A LOT OF COMPETING INTERESTS
IN TERMS OF THE DEAL WHAT YOU
NEED TO DO SO -- WANTED YOU
TO KNOW THAT THANKS VERY MUCH
UNDER ABSOLUTELY MAN OF AYE SURE
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR MOVE IN -- THE ITEM
YEAH -- MADAM SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL -- WE DID
-- SO WE ARE WE ARE NOW GOING
TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND
WITH RESPECT TO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR PATIENCE WILL BE
RIGHT BACK THANK YOU VERY MUCH
AND AS WE GET STARTED MADAM
SECRETARY LET ME ASK YOU TO
OPEN THE ROLE ON ITEM ONE B.
MISS JULIA HENDERSON GIVEN
THE THAT ARE MADE LOSE A
MEMBER AGAIN IN A FEW MINUTES
SO PLEASE OPEN THE ROLE ROVE
HERTZBERG BY HERTZBERG AYE
KAMLAGER KAMLAGER I
ON CALL ON CALL THANK
YOU VERY MUCH WE ARE NOW
GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM ONE A.
-- YOU WOULD NEED AT GOT IT
OPEN THE ROLE ON ITEM ONE A.
HERTZBERG BY HERTZBERG FIVE
FIVE ZERO FIVE ZERO THAT WAS
OBVIOUSLY MISS REYNOLDS FOR THE
P. YOU SEE -- SO WE'RE GONNA
GO AHEAD AND INVITE UP OUR
LAST TWO APPOINTEES WHO HAVE
SHOWN GREAT PATIENCE --
TODAY A FOR THE COMINGS
AND GOINGS OF -- MEMBERS
AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
-- WE HAVE WITH US SEVERAN
BORN STEEN WHO IS A DOCTOR
EXCUSE ME BORN STEEN WHO IS
A MEMBER OF THE INDEPENDENT
SYSTEM OPERATOR GOVERNING
BOARD AND WE HAVE MISSED JAN
CHAUDHRY R. J. D. MEMBER ALSO
INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATING
OPERATOR GOVERNING BOARD AND
I WANT TO WELCOME BOTH OF
YOU AND DIED THANK YOU
AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND
THANK YOU SENATOR HERTZBERG ARM
INVITE YOU TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF
WILL START WITH YOU DR BORN
STEEN AND THEN -- GO OVER
DO YOU MISS CHAUDHRY AND --
INTRODUCE YOURSELF ACKNOWLEDGE
ANYONE YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
YOUR OPENING COMMENTS ON AND
THEN WE'LL GO TO THE COMMITTEE
AND I KNOW THAT YOU WERE HERE
TO HEAR SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
FOR THE CPUC AND WE KNOW YOU
ARE NOT THE CPUC BUT SOME OF
THE QUESTIONS ARE RELEVANT
-- TO BOTH OF YOU BUT WE
WILL RESTATE -- THE QUESTIONS
I'M SURE MEMBERS WILL HAVE
SOME SO WITH THAT LET ME SAY
WELCOME PACKAGE FOR -- KITTENS
AND THANK YOU COMMITTEE AND
I AM HONORED TO BE HERE AND
FOR UP FOR CONSIDERATION OF
REAPPOINTMENT TO THE CHI SO
BORED -- I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE
-- MY WIFE MARGARET STEWART
WHO IS -- WATCHING ONLINE
AND PROBABLY ARE AGING DOG
MURPHY STEWARD WHO IS
ALSO WITH HER NO DOUBT --
I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE
ENERGY SECTOR IN RESEARCH
IN THE ENERGY SECTOR SINCE
-- NINETEEN NINETY NINETEEN
EIGHTY SIX -- I'VE TESTIFIED
BEFORE THIS LEGISLATURE NUMEROUS
TIMES GOING ALL THE WAY BACK
TO NINETEEN NINETY FOUR ON THE
FIRST DRAFT OF THE ELECTRICITY
RESTRUCTURING PROPOSAL --
I'VE SERVED ON NUMEROUS STATE
COMMITTEES ON GAS PRICES
GASOLINE PRICES ELECTRICITY
MARKETS CAP AND TRADE AS WELL
AS FEDERAL COMMITTEES ON ENERGY
AND THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY --
THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN A PAID
CONSULTANT ON AND ON ENERGY
ISSUES -- I HAVE DONE QUITE
A BIT OF PUBLIC SERVICE
ACTUALLY STARTING BACK IN
NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT SEVENTY
NINE SERVING ON THE CIVIL IS
AS A AS AN ECONOMIST AT THE
CIVIL AERONAUTICS BOARD DURING
AIRLINE DEREGULATION AND
-- NUMERUS COMMITTEE SINCE THEN
-- I HAVE BEEN ON THE CASE OF
BOARD NOW FOR THREE AND A HALF
YEARS -- I HAVE FOUND
IT CHALLENGING -- INTERESTING
AND A -- A REAL OPPORTUNITY
TO HELP SHAPE THE FUTURE
OF CALIFORNIA'S ENERGY AND
GREENHOUSE GAS -- FUTURE
BUT I I WOULD NEED TO BE
CLEAR AND I THINK THEM THE
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE
APPRECIATE THIS THAT I
SO IS NEITHER A SUPPLIER
OR A BUYER OF ELECTRICITY
-- THE K. SO IS A MARKET MAKER
-- THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
MARKET TRYING TO MAKE THE MARKET
WORK AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE
TO ATTAIN ALL OF THE GOALS
OF THE ENERGY SYSTEM LOW
COST RELIABILITY AND
DECARBONISATION -- AS SUCH
THE CASE WHO IS CONSTANTLY
WATCHING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO
MAKE THAT SYSTEM WORK BETTER
FOR ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS
AND THAT MEANS BEING
CONSTANTLY AWARE AND AVAILABLE
TO STAKEHOLDERS TO HEAR
WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE AT
BOTH AT THE BOARD LEVEL AS
A BUT THE ALL OF THE BOARD
MEMBERS TRIED TO AND ALSO
AT THE CRISIS STAFF --
WE HAVE A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS
THAT I I I THINK WE ARE
JUSTIFIABLY VERY PROUD OF --
NEARLY EVERY DECISION MADE
BY K. SO IS -- COMMENTED
ON BY STAKEHOLDERS EVEN THE ONES
WHO AREN'T ENTIRELY HAPPY WITH
THE OUTCOME THAT THE PROCESS
MADE THEM FEEL HEARD AND THEY
FELT THAT THEY HAD A -- AN
OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CONTRIBUTE
TO THE DECISION MAKING SO I LOOK
FORWARD I HOPE TO BEING ABLE
TO CONTINUE IN THIS POSITION
AND TO CONTINUE TO BE PART OF
WHAT I THINK IS A REALLY GREAT
ORGANIZATION THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH THE STORY YES
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY HE SAID
ON IMAGES OF THE SONG -- REYES
THERE YOU GO THAT'S GREAT OKAY
THAT'S BETTER THAT'S GREAT BE
CLOSER OKAY GOOD I THANK YOU
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR
HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS MY PENDING
CONFIRMATION TO THE CALIFORNIA
IS THOSE BOARD OF GOVERNORS I
DO THINK MY HUSBAND CASE BETTER
MEN IS LISTENING IN AND I'D
LIKE TO THANK HIM FOR ALL OF
HIS SUPPORT AND HIS EXCELLENT
COOKING ESPECIALLY ON LONG
ISLAND SO BOARD MEETING DAYS
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO COME OUT
TO A NICE DINNER DECARBONISING
THE ENERGY SECTOR IS OUR STATE'S
LAW AND MANDATE SB ONE HUNDRED
REQUIRES THAT WE SUPPLY ALL OF
OUR ENERGY NEEDS WITH RENEWABLE
RESOURCES BY TWENTY FORTY FIVE
THE INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATORS
ROLE IS TO HELP ENSURE THAT
THE LIGHTS STAY ON AND THAT THE
SYSTEM OPERATES RELIABLY WELL
WE MAKE THIS TRANSITION TO A
CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE THE AUGUST
TWENTY TWENTY HUGE STORM
REMINDED US ALL OF THE CRITICAL
ROLE THAT ENERGY HAS IN OUR
ECONOMY AND OUR DAILY LIVES
AND HOW IMPORTANT THE ISO'S
RELIABILITY RESPONSIBILITY IS
TO THE CITIZENS OF OUR STATE
I SPENT ALMOST THIRTY YEARS
AT SMUD SACRAMENTO'S PUBLICLY
OWNED ELECTRIC UTILITY FIRST
AS A LAWYER AND GENERAL
COUNSEL AND THEN AS THE CEO
AND THEN I SPENT THE NEXT
TWELVE YEARS AS THE NORTH
AMERICAN ELECTRIC RELIABILITY
CORPORATION BOARD MEMBER WORKING
ON GRID RELIABILITY AND GRID
SECURITY LAST YEAR WAS MY FIRST
YEAR ON THE CAL IS SO BORED
I WAS IMPRESSED TO SEE THE
CAPABILITIES AND THE OVERALL
TECHNICAL EXCELLENCE OF THE EYES
THOSE MANAGEMENT AND STAFF IN
ACTION AND I WAS ALSO IMPRESSED
BY THE BALANCE OF SKILLS AND
EXPERIENCES OF MY FELLOW I IS SO
BOARD MEMBERS I THINK I HAVE
HELPED TO BRING SOME PRACTICAL
OPERATIONAL EXPERIENCE TO THE
BOARD'S DELIBERATIONS AND I
WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO CONTINUE MY SERVICE ON THE
BOARD HELPING WITH ALL THESE
CUTTING EDGE ISSUES IN ORDER
TO ACHIEVE THE STATE'S ENERGY
POLICY GOALS WHILE ENSURING THAT
THE ELECTRICITY GRID REMAINS
RELIABLE THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH IT'S -- ACTUALLY GOOD
TO SEE BOTH OF YOU AGAIN --
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE
ALTHOUGH I THINK LAST TIME
WE WERE WE WERE DOING VIRTUAL
FOR ME VIRTUAL I REMEMBER
-- MINIMIZED HERE LET ME
START WITH YOU THANK
YOU AND I DO REMEMBER -- OUR
CONVERSATION -- IT WAS --
I WAS REMINDED OF IT WHEN
I GOT A WHOLE TRANSCRIPT --
WITH WITH MY PACKET HERE SO
HISTORY I'M PROBABLY GONNA LET
YOU OFF THE HOOK BECAUSE I JUST
REMEMBERED THAT OUR CONVERSATION
WAS VERY IN DEPTH I THINK YOU'RE
A YEAR EXPERIENCE AS BEING --
YOU KNOW JUST LOCAL UTILITY
PROVIDER ALL OF THAT WAS -- BUT
OUR KNOWLEDGE THAT I THOUGHT
WAS VERY IMPORTANT AND EXPERTISE
TO BRING TO THE I ALSO --
SO I THINK IN BASED ON YOUR
PRESENTATION -- I AM VERY
SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR CONFIRMATION
SO ENOUGH THAT I'M NOT GOING TO
YOU KNOW IF YOUR I DO HAVE A
QUESTION FOR YOU BECAUSE I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST TO
BUILD OUT THE GRIEF OVER THE
NEXT -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
TWENTY THE TWENTY YEARS SAN
M. THE IMPACT THAT CAN BE ON OUR
VULNERABLE LOW INCOME FAMILIES
ARE IT SAYS THAT THE
REPAIR COSTS OF POOR
TRANSMISSION HAS INCREASED BY
OVER A HUNDRED AND FIFTY PERCENT
OR JUST OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
DECADES AND IF WE'RE BUILDING
OUT THE OUR TRANSMISSION
SYSTEM I THINK IT'S IS IT YOU
HAVE MY NUMBERS RIGHT THAT IS
GOING TO BE A THIRTY BILLION
DOLLARS TO TRIPLE THE CAPACITY
OF THE GRID TO HANDLE THE NEW
ELECTRIC LOAD WHICH IS CLEANING
OUR CHARGING STATIONS AND ALL
OF THAT -- IS THERE STARTS
NOW OF HOW WE CAN CERTAINLY
WE NEED TO DO THAT NOT A
QUESTION BUT HOW THAT WILL
BE ON BOARD BY THOSE
WHO ARE CURRENTLY -- REALLY
BURDENED WITH THE COST OF ENERGY
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
IS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE
NUMBERS ARE CORRECT AND YOU KNOW
THEY ARE CORRECT ON MANTA AND --
HOW ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF HELPING
US IS WE THE LEGISLATION
COME FORWARD IT REALLY DOES SHOW
SAW A LOT OF THE COSTS ON TO
FOLKS WHO LIVE IN -- I WHAT I
CONSIDER TO BE HAVE LOW INCOME
AND VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES
IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING
WITH THE HEAT RISE AND THE
DRAMATIC CHANGES IN TEMPERATURE
-- HERE IN CALIFORNIA FROM YOU
KNOW VERY VERY COLD CERTAINLY
HOW ABOUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO
ACTUALLY LAST YEAR I BELIEVE
I HAD BIG HEATING BILLS IN MY
HOUSE AND THEN OF COURSE I LIVE
ON THE COAST BY THE WAY NEVER
HAD AIR CONDITIONING UNTIL
TWO YEARS AGO AN EARLIER IN
OUR CONVERSATIONS I THINK MY
COLLEAGUE SAID THAT YOU KNOW AND
DURING THE THE COOLER AFTERNOON
HOURS IF YOU LIVE ON THE COAST
YOU CAN OPEN YOUR WINDOWS WILL
NOT NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE BECAUSE
IT'S BEEN A VERY HUMID AND
IT BASICALLY STOPS THE BREEZE
THE WIND TO THAT COMES OFF
THE OCEAN THE WITHOUT WITHOUT
REGRESSING -- DOCTOR BORN SEEN
ON WELCOME AND THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR YOUR LONG TERM SERVICE
ON THIS SITE YOUR EXPERTISE IS
AMAZING BUT HELP HELP US WITH
-- THAT PARTICULAR PATH THAT
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO MEET AND
TALK ABOUT THIS A GREATER LENGTH
MOST OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN RATES
WHICH I COMPLETELY SHARE YOUR
CONCERN -- WITH THE SKYROCKETING
RATES -- IS NOT COMING
OUT OF THE CASE -- AT ALL OF
THE SO RIGHT NOW THE AVERAGE
RATE CHARGED BY PG&E IS ON THE
ORDER OF TWENTY SIX SEVEN CENTS
A KILOWATT HOUR FOR RESIDENTIAL
-- ADDISON'S A BIT LESS
SAN DIEGO IS A BIT MORE --
ALL OF THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE
CASE THOSE TRANSMISSION ACCESS
CHARGE PLUS THEIR -- THEIR
CHARGE ON TRAITS WITHIN THE K.
SO THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT TO
ABOUT A CENT AND A HALF OF
THE THIRTY BILLION DOLLARS IS IT
LOOKS LIKE A BIG NUMBER BUT THEN
YOU SPREAD OVER ALL THE KILOWATT
HOURS OVER TWENTY YEARS AND
IT'S AN AND THAT TRANSMISSION
LAST A LOT LONGER THAN TWENTY
YEARS -- AND AMOUNTS TO ABOUT
ONE CENT PER KILOWATT HOUR SO
IT IS IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY
BEEF UP OUR GRAD TO MAKE THIS
DECARBONISATION WORK -- AND
TO REALLY -- KEEP THE SYSTEM
RELIABLE -- WHILE STILL
PHASING OUT FOSSIL FUELS BUT
I I THINK THAT IT'S MONEY VERY
WELL SPENT -- I CAN ASSURE
YOU THAT AS A MEMBER OF THE
K. SO WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN
TO KEEP COSTS DOWN BUT I ALSO
THINK WE HAVE TO NOT BE PENNY
WISE POUND FOOLISH THERE
ARE TIMES WHEN WE DO NEED TO
INVEST IN EVERYTHING FROM
-- MORE TRANSMISSION WHICH OF
COURSE THE CPC HAS THE FINAL
SAY ON -- KING THAT BUT --
THE BUT ALSO THE -- PERSONALITY
THE K. SO TO MOVE THE QUEUE
THE INTERCONNECTION QUEUE ALONG
AND TO TAKE OTHER ACTIONS TO
MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN A RELIABLE
GRID WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL
WITH THE FUNDS BUT AT THE SAME
TIME -- THE PERCENTAGE INCREASES
STILL LEAVE THE CASE SO WITH A
VERY SMALL SHARE OF THE SAY ONE
LAST THING -- THE CASE
SO BUT THE BUDGET OPERATING
BUDGET OKAY SO HAS BEEN FLAT
FOR THE LAST DECADE IT'S
ACTUALLY DECLINED SOMEWHAT
FOR THE CALIFORNIA PORTION
OF IT BECAUSE THEY CUTS WAS
ALSO BECOME THE RELIABILITY
COORDINATOR FOR MOST OF THE
WESTERN UNITED STATES AND
THAT HAS TAKEN SOME OF THE
COSTS AWAY FROM CALIFORNIA --
AND SO WE ARE NOW HAVING TO
INCREASE HEADCOUNT AN INCREASE
-- BUDGET A BIT IN ORDER
TO KEEP UP WITH THE RAPIDLY
EXPAND RAPID EXPANSION OF
AT BUT WE ARE WATCHING COSTS AT
THE SAME TIME I HAVE SEPARATELY
FROM MY CASE A ROLLED DOWN
QUITE A BIT OF WORK ON RATE
DESIGN AND THE CHALLENGES WE
FACE AND HAVE VIEWS ON HOW
TO ADDRESS THOSE IN AN EQUITABLE
WAY THOSE ARE REALLY HIGH SO
MATTER BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO
CHAT WITH YOU ABOUT THAT I
DO YOU THINK ABOUT TARA MOVED
TO ELECTRIFICATION IN THESE
GIANT STEPS WE'RE TAKING IS
TOO AGGRESSIVE FOR THE THE
GRID TO HANDLE IT IN THE SHORT
TERM BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT TWENTY THIRTY FIVE CRAFT
YES -- I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO
AGGRESSIVE IF WE DO IT IN A
SMART WAY AND I BUT I THINK IT
DOES RAISE SOME REAL CHALLENGES
AND I WILL TELL YOU ONE OF
THE CHALLENGES AND ELECTRIC
VEHICLES ARE ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT PEOPLE ALWAYS REYES
IF WE CHARGE ELECTRIC VEHICLES
AT THE RIGHT TIME THERE WILL BE
VERY LITTLE PROBLEM MEETING THE
INCREASED DEMAND FROM ELECTRIC
VEHICLES THAT IS IF WE DON'T
HAVE PEOPLE COMING HOME AND
PLUG IN THE MEN AND EVERYBODY
CHARGING RIGHT AS THE SUN'S
GOING DOWN IF WE CHARGE THEM AT
THE WRONG TIME WE ARE GOING TO
CREATE HUGE PROBLEMS SO WE
NEED INNOVATION AND BATTERIES
AND TECHNOLOGY AND WE NEED
TRANSMISSION BUT WE ALSO NEED
REGULATORY INNOVATION -- I
HAVE SPOKEN WITH PEOPLE AT
THE CPUC INCLUDING PRESIDENT
RONALD BEFORE SHE WENT TO THE
CPC ABOUT THIS -- AND I THINK
THEY RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE
GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY INNOVATE
THE WAY WE WE THE INCENTIVIZE
CUSTOMERS TO USE ELECTRICITY
BECAUSE THE DEMAND SIDE IS GOING
TO HAVE TO PLAY A HUGE ROLE AS
WE BUILD OUT HELLO L. ELECTRIC
HEAT ELECTOR WHAT HOT WATER
HEATING ELECTRIC VEHICLES WE'VE
ALREADY STARTED THAT ACTUALLY
BECAUSE WE HAVE A FORTY NINE NOW
WINDOW WHERE ACOSTA -- DOUBLE
FIVE FORGET WHAT IT IS I TRY OUT
ACTUALLY I'M FORTUNATELY ONLY MY
HUSBAND AND MYSELF THAT I THINK
ABOUT FAMILIES ON CERTAINLY
-- THERE WERE NO COST AND ALSO
THE BURDEN OF THE REGULATION IN
TERMS OF WHEN YOU CAN DO WHAT
YOU NEED TO DO WITH ELECTRIC
APPLIANCES THAT GOES ALONG WITH
THE KIND OF JOBS THAT ARE LOW
OUR LOW INCOME FOLKS HAVEN'T
MANY OF THEM DOING TWO AND THREE
JOBS ON TO MAKE ENDS MEET SO
THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT WERE MADE
A BIG CONCERN FOR LEGISLATORS
CLEARLY AS WE GO FORWARD BUT
I'M I'M NOT COMFORTABLE THAT
WE'VE GOT A GOOD TEAM -- WITH
YOUR EXPERTISE YOU TO MISSOURI
AND THEN WORKING WITH OUR
PC ON PRESIDENT THAT WE JUST
INTERVIEWED AND I'M SURE YOU
HEARD A LOT OF THAT CONVERSATION
WHICH KIND OF OF BASICALLY --
OVERLAPS WITH SO WHAT YOU ALL
DO BUT SOUNDS LIKE THE TEAM
IS AWARE OF THE CONCERNS THAT
WE HAVE THE CONCERNS THAT WE
HAVE IS LEGISLATORS AND --
THAT YOU WILL BE HOPEFULLY
VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT IN DOING
PROBABLY THE BETTER QUESTION TO
THE PC -- WAS
ABOUT THE THE THE RATES BECAUSE
THEY THEY HAVE THE REGULATORY
AUTHORITY FOR ABOUT AS OUR
INDEPENDENT UTILITIES COME
FORWARD WITHOUT SO WELL ANYWAY
THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR SERVICE
SO YOU'LL HAVE MY SUPPORT GOING
INTO THE CONFIRMATION HANDA
AGAIN ARE YOUR SERVICES BEEN
REALLY -- VERY YOU KNOW
IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE
WHOLE ISSUE HERE WITH ENERGY
AND CERTAINLY IN OUR STATE
OF CALIFORNIA SO THANK YOU
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
VICE CHAIR SENATOR COM LONGER
THANK YOU MADAM PRO TEM AND I
WANT TO THANK THE TWO OF YOU
FOR SPENDING SOME TIME WITH ME
AND THIS MORNING -- I DON'T HAVE
THAT MANY QUESTIONS I DO HAVE A
QUESTION FOR DOCTOR BORN STEEN
-- AND WE SORT OF DISCUSSED
THIS A LITTLE BIT -- EARLIER
TODAY BUT YOU HAVE BEEN
-- -- LABELED ANTI
SOLAR -- ANTI ROOFTOP
SOLAR AND SO WOULD LOVE IT IF
YOU COULD MAYBE SHARE YOUR --
PERSPECTIVE ON ROOFTOP SOLAR
-- AND ITS RELEVANCE TO HOW
WE WORK TO -- DIVERSIFY
OUR -- ENERGY
AND -- CONTINUE
TO GREEN MAYBE YOU'D LIKE TO
PUT YOUR PUT YOUR TROOPS TRUE
THOUGHTS ON THE RECORD FOR
FOLKS WHO HAVE BEING VIEW THAT
OF THE I GUESS I SHOULD PREFACE
THIS BY SAYING THIS IS THE CASE
-- PLAYS ALMOST NO ROLE ROLE
AND DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCES
THEY ALL SIT BEHIND THE METER
AND THE EVEN THE METER IS AND
WHAT CRISIS CRISIS SEES THE
-- TRANSMISSION NETWORK --
SO -- I DO HAVE VIEWS
ON ROOFTOP SOLAR I'VE WRITTEN
EXTENSIVELY THERE ALREADY ON
THE RECORD IN THAT SENSE --
I AM NOT OPPOSED TO ROOFTOP
SOLAR AT ALL I AM IN FAVOR
OF A -- COST EFFECTIVE
AND EQUITABLE -- DECARBONISATION
OF THE GRID MY CONCERN
IS THAT IN MY OPINION THE
CURRENT WHAT RATE STRUCTURE
IS SUBSIDIZING ROOFTOP SOLAR
TO A FAR GREATER LEVEL THAN
WE ARE SUBSIDIZING GRID SCALE
RENEWABLES AND AS A RESULT
WE ARE RAISING THE OVERALL
COSTS WHEN WE DO THAT THE
THE WAY WE CHARGE OF FOR ROOF
ARE THE NET METERING CAUSES
THE COST OF THE GRID AND
MANY PUBLIC PURPOSE COSTS AND
SO FORTH TO BE SHIFTED TO PEOPLE
WHO DON'T HAVE ROOFTOP SOLAR
IT'S WELL KNOWN THAT THE PEOPLE
DON'T HAVE ROOFTOP SOLAR OVER IN
OVERWHELMINGLY POORER THAN THE
PEOPLE WHO DO AND SO IT CREATES
A COST SHIFT THAT HARMS --
THE -- LOW LOWER INCOME
AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT --
THE I. A. I DON'T MIX OF THAT
ROLE -- THAT I DO PLAY AND
DISCUSSING OTHER ENERGY ISSUES
INCLUDING TOMORROW TESTIFYING
ON GASOLINE PRICES IN THE
ASSEMBLY -- THE WITH
MY CASE -- ROLE -- BUT
-- AND I BE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO
CHAT WITH YOU FURTHER ABOUT IT
NO NO I JUST YOU KNOW I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT JUST YOU KNOW
PUT IT OUT THERE AND I DON'T
THINK -- I CERTAINLY THINK THE
FOLKS WHO HAVE RAISED CONCERNS
RECOGNIZE THE ROLE THAT --
CAL I ALSO HAS WITH SOLAR
BUT I THINK AS IT RELATES TO
SOLAR THE CURRENT STERN IS
THAT YOU'RE PUSHING TO MAKE
THE GRADE BIGGER AND MORE
CENTRALIZED AND SO I REALLY JUST
RAISES BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE
GREAT -- ENTRY POINTS FOR HOW
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO
ENGAGE WITH AND LEARN FROM
-- -- STAKEHOLDERS AND ACTIVISTS
AND ALSO GET EDUCATED ABOUT THE
ISSUES BECAUSE I I HOPE AT THE
END OF THE DAY EVERYONE'S ON THE
SAME PAGE RIGHT THAT WE WANT TO
HAVE AS DIVERSIFIED PORTFOLIO AS
POSSIBLE OF RELIABLE AFFORDABLE
AND ACCESSIBLE ENERGY AND I ALSO
THINK SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT
SOLAR ROOFTOP THE ROOFTOP
SOLAR BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT
IT OR DON'T LIKE IT SO IT'S
NOT ALWAYS ABOUT SOMEONE'S
INCOME -- THE SECOND QUESTION
REALLY IS THAT AND I'D LIKE
TO ADDRESS IT TO THE TWO OF
YOU IN THIS WILL BE MY FINAL
QUESTION I I THINK WE ALSO
TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER IS
THAT FORMER P. YOU SEE HAD LYNCH
ACCUSE THE ISO OF A HISTORY
OF FAILING TO PENALIZE POWER
PLANT OWNERS WHO GAME THE SYSTEM
AND SO JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
EACH OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON HER
STATEMENT THANK
YOU WILL MAYBE ALL GOOD WITH
THE OPENER AND THEN POINTED OVER
TO SEVER IN BECAUSE HE'S GOT A
VERY DIRECT ROLE AND WE'RE VERY
FORTUNATE THE EYES SO TO HAVE
THEM ON THE ON THE BOARD TO BE
HONEST HE'S A NATIONALLY RANKED
THE RECOGNIZED ABOUT A WORLD
EXPERT IN THESE MATTERS --
BUT I DO THINK THAT WHEN YOU
LOOK BACK AT THE ISSUES THAT
AROSE DURING THE ORIGINAL ENERGY
CRISIS IN THE TWO THOUSAND
TIME FRAME -- THAT I WAS IT'S
NOT BEEN I LIVED THROUGH IT I
WATCHED WHAT HAPPENED AND TO
BE FRANK WITH YOU THERE WERE A
LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WENT TO JAIL
OVER WHAT CAME OUT OF ALL OF
THAT SO I THINK IT WAS A HUGE
RED FLAG TO THE LEGISLATURE
TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND
TO THE INDUSTRY AND THE P. YOU
SEE AS WELL AS THE EYES SO THAT
THERE WAS WORK TO BE DONE TO
FIGURE OUT HOW WE MONITOR MARKET
BEHAVIOR HOW WE GET AHEAD OF
THE EARTH UNDERSTANDING AND I
THINK I SAID THIS TO YOU THIS
MORNING YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE
THAT WHEN YOU CREATE A MARKET
PEOPLE ARE NOT THERE FOR THEIR
HEALTH OR BECAUSE THEY WANT TO
BE NICE TO YOU OR EVEN TO BE
NECESSARILY RELIABLE THEY'RE
THERE TO MAKE MONEY YOU HAVE
TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A
DRIVING MOTIVE I THINK WHEN
MARKETS ARE CREATED AND IT
DOES MEAN TO ME THAT YOU HAVE
TO HAVE SUFFICIENT OVERSIGHT
REGULATORY OVERSIGHT BUT REAL
TIME TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN DETECT
THE MONITOR IT TO DETECT WHAT'S
GOING ON OUT THERE IN THE MARKET
PLACE SO THAT YOU CAN GET ON TOP
OF ANY PROBLEMS AND MAKE SURE
THAT SOME OF THE STUNTS THAT
WE SAW BACK IN THE FIRST ENERGY
CRISIS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND
THEN ARE PREVENTED IT AT THE
HIGHEST SO WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE
IN MY VIEW BECAUSE WE HAVE A
COMMITTEE THAT REPORTS THAT
IS A COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD
ANALYSTS SEVEN TALK ABOUT IT
BUT MY OWN IMPRESSION AFTER ONE
THE LAST YEAR OF EXPERIENCES
THAT WE HAVE SOME REALLY CAPABLE
PEOPLE BETTER PERFORMING THIS
ROLE AT THE ISO WE ALSO HAVE
AN EXTERNAL COMMITTEE OF
EXPERTS BUT ALSO PROVIDES ADVICE
REGULARLY TO THE BILL WORD AND
TO THE MANAGEMENT SO FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE CAN YOU ELIMINATE
THIS RISK COMPLETELY PROBABLY
NOT BUT WHEN I LOOK AT WHERE WE
ARE TODAY VERSUS WHERE WE WERE
TWENTY YEARS AGO WE HAVE MANY
MANY TOOLS IN PLACE WITH LOTS
OF EXPERT OVERSIGHT TO TRY AND
MAKE SURE WE'RE ON TOP OF THESE
ISSUES SO WITH THAT INTRODUCTION
ALL TURNED OVER THE SEPARATE
WHO IS SORT OF IN TRYING THIS
COMMITTEE THAT WORKS ON THIS SO
I DON'T I MEAN ACTUALLY GO BACK
TO NINETEEN NINETY SIX WHEN I
WROTE A PAPER WITH JIM BUSHNELL
-- POINTING OUT THAT THERE
WAS A REAL RISK OF -- MARKET
MANIPULATION IN A DEREGULATED
CALIFORNIA ELECTRICITY MARKET
WE SER WAVED AROUND IN PRESENTED
AT CONFERENCES AND TALK TO
PEOPLE THE CBC AND DID NOT GET
MUCH ATTENTION UNTIL JUNE OF
TWO THOUSAND AND THEN WE START
TO GET A LOT OF ATTENTION --
WE WERE POINTING OUT THAT THERE
WAS A REAL STRONG INCENTIVE
FOR SOME GENERATORS WITH
FULL POWER FROM THE MARKET
IN ORDER TO RAISE PRICES --
WE I WAS AT THAT TIME
ACCUSED BY ONE OF THE
GENERATORS OF SEEING MARKET
POWER UNDER EVERY ROCK AND
-- SO I I I AM VERY SENSITIZED
TO THIS -- I HAVE STUDIED MARKET
POWER NOT JUST IN ELECTRICITY
BUT IN GASOLINE AND OIL
IN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY --
AND I A HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA
OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR
I DON'T AGREE WITH MS LYNCH
THAT -- THE AYE SO HE'S SURE
THIS RESPONSIBILITY YEAH
SO BESIDES HAVING THE STAFF
WHO ARE VERY SENSITIZED TO
THIS ALSO HAS THIS SEPARATE
DEPARTMENT THE DEPARTMENT OF
MARKET MONITORING WHICH DOES
NOT REPORT TO THE CEO OF THE
AYE SO THEY REPORT DIRECTLY
TO THE BOARD THAT IS REQUIRED
BY FOR THEIR AN INDEPENDENT
DEPARTMENT THAT MONITORS FOR
MARKET POWER THEY ARE VERY
AGGRESSIVE -- AND THEN THEY'RE
ALSO EXTREMELY COMPETENT
SMART -- I REALLY AND I AM
ON THE D. DEPARTMENT OF MARKET
MONITORING OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE
COMMITTEE TWO OF THE FIVE
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD -- WE MEET
WITH THEM MONTHLY APPROXIMATELY
AND TALK OVER DETAILED ISSUES
THAT THEY FIVE AND THEY ARE
OFTEN FLAGGING POTENTIAL RISKS
AS WELL AS RUNNING SOME OF THEIR
METRICS OF THE CONCENTRATION
OF PRODUCTION AMONG CERTAIN
GENERATORS AND WHETHER THAT
RAISES RISKS IN THE MARKET SO
WE ARE VERY ATTUNED TO THIS --
AS CHEN SAID YOU CAN'T RULE OUT
EVERY POSSIBILITY AND IT'S A
VERY COMPLEX MARKET AND EVERY
TIME YOU MAKE THE MARKET MORE
COMPLEX THERE ARE PEOPLE SOME
OF THE MORE MY FORMER STUDENTS
WHO HAVE GRADUATED FROM THE
HIGH SCHOOL BUSINESS TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT HOW YOU CAN MAKE MORE
MONEY BY PURSUING DIFFERENT
STRATEGIES AND SO -- WE
THE ERROR THE DEPARTMENT OF
MARKET MONITORING IS CONSTANTLY
THIS IS THEIR PRIMARY JOB AND I
THINK THEY DO IT EXTREMELY WELL
-- WHEN THEY DO RAISE ISSUES
THE BOARD HEARS ABOUT THEM
AND -- AND TAKES THEM VERY
SERIOUSLY AND RAISES THEM
WITH MANAGEMENT OF THE CASE
SO -- AND SAYS YOU KNOW WHAT
ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THIS
THIS SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM
OR IS A POTENTIAL PROBLEM SO
-- I THINK THAT --
WE FACE A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES
IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS I WOULD
NOT SAY THAT MARKET POWER IS
NOT ONE OF THEM BUT I DON'T
THINK IT IS ONE OF THE LEADING
ONES THAT WE FACE I WILL
JUST ADD THAT EVERY TERRORIST
AMENDMENT THAT WE DID THIS LAST
YEAR WHILE I'VE BEEN ON THE
BOARD WE GET OPINIONS FROM
BOTH THE DEPARTMENT OF MARKET
MONITORING AND ALSO FROM THE
MARKET SURVEILLANCE COMMITTEE
WHICH IS THIS EXTERNAL GROUP
OF EXPERTS FROM AROUND THE
COUNTRY THAT COME IN AND --
PINE TO US SO WE'RE TRYING TO
CATCH THINGS UP FRONT BEFORE WE
CHANGE RULES TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND THEN WE
HAVE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY TODAY
THAT WE DID NEEDS TO HAVE THAT
CAN HELP MONITOR THIS BEHAVIOR
THANK YOU SENATOR
-- SENATOR GROWTH
THANK YOU MADAM PRO TEM WELCOME
AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE
BUT EVERYTHING IS STILL NEED TO
TOUR THE I. S. AND AND I WAS
AMAZED I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT
WAS WHEN I GOT THERE EVERY
GENERAL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT IS
NOW BUT I REMEMBER WALKING INTO
THIS ROOM AND LOOKING DOWN AND
FROM THE FLOOR TO THE CEILING
ABOVE THERE WAS NOTHING BUT
THESE COMPUTERS AND SCREENS AND
DIGITAL DATA AND GRAPHS AND
CHARTS AND YOU HAD PEOPLE DOWN
THERE THAT OBVIOUSLY LOOK LIKE
THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING
AND TO HAVE ADJUSTED AND SO
WE GOT THIS TOUR IN THE TRADE
LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT
LIKE YOU'RE NOT YOU KNOW LIKE
YOU SAID EARLY DON'T BUY AND
SELL THE PRODUCT YOUR JOB IS
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRODUCT
THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE -- IF
THE PRODUCT IS THE RIGHT WORD
BUT THE PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE
AVAILABLE AND THAT YOU MAKE
SURE THAT THAT PRODUCT IS
AVAILABLE SO THAT WE CAN KEEP
THE LIGHTS ON FOR YOU MOVE
THAT PRODUCT AROUND RIGHT
TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON AT
I KNOW THAT THAT CONSIST OF
MINE AND I JUST ASK YOU WHAT
DOES THAT CONSIST OF OBVIOUSLY
FOSSIL FUELS AND ELECTRICITY
WHAT ELSE GAS POWERED PLANTS
WHERE DOES THAT ENERGY COME
FROM THE TO MONITORING BILLS
AROUND THERE ARE
I GUESS I WAS GOING TO SAY IT
RIGHT NOW IF YOU LOOK AT
THE NUMBERS WHICH ARE POSTED
PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY OR EVERY
WEEK ON THE ISO'S WEBSITE THEY
MONITOR IN REAL TIME AND POST
EXACTLY WHERE ALL THE POWER
IS COMING FROM THAT IS BEING
DISPATCHED ACROSS THE GRID AND
AS A RESULT BUT VERY GOOD NEWS
THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR IS THAT
WE PROVED WE CAN GET TO ONE
HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ENERGY
IT WAS A VERY BRIEF MOMENT BUT
WE DEMONSTRATED THAT IT CAN
BE DONE IN THAT WE COULD MEET
LOW THIS WAY AND I THINK THIS
CONTINUES TO REINFORCE THE FACT
THAT WE ARE MAKING VERY STEADY
PROGRESS TOWARDS ACHIEVING THE
STATE'S OVERALL ENERGY CLEAN
ENERGY POLICY GOALS BUT IF YOU
LOOK AT THAT MIX YOU CAN SEE
AS YOU SAID THERE IS SOME POWER
STILL IN THERE FROM FOSSIL FUELS
WE STILL HAVE SOME NATURAL GAS
PLANTS THAT ARE OPERATING BUT
YOU'LL BE -- YOU'LL SEE THERE'S
A LOT OF HYDRO ELECTRICITY IN
THE STATE ALTHOUGH THIS YEAR'S
A TOUGH YEAR ANOTHER YEAR OF
DROUGHT SO WE'RE NOT SEEING
THE SAME QUANTITIES THERE WE
STILL HAVE SOME NUCLEAR POWER
IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE DYEABLE
CANYON IS STILL OPERATING BUT
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE
REALLY WORKING ON FIGURING OUT
HOW WILL WE REPLACE IT BECAUSE
IT IS SCHEDULED TO COME OFF
LINE IN TWENTY TWENTY FOUR
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE AND SO THE
PC REALLY HAS A LASER FOCUS ON
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WILL
REPLACE THAT WE HAVE SOME UNITS
ALONG THE COAST THAT ARE ALSO
CURRENTLY GAS UNITS BUT THEY
USE THIS WATER SUPPLY FROM THE
OCEAN WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE
GOING FORWARD SO WE'RE TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING
TO DO IS THOSE UNITS SPACE FOR
THE FUTURE M. I SAID WHAT
I SAID I CAN'T FAILED TO MENTION
BATTERIES BECAUSE BATTERIES IS
THE BIG NEW THING IF YOU THINK
ABOUT THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE IN
BATTERIES AND I THINK PRESIDENT
REYNOLDS TALKED ABOUT THIS A
LITTLE EARLIER DURING THE TWENTY
TWENTY CRISIS I THINK WE ONLY
HAD TWO HUNDRED TO FOUR HUNDRED
MEGAWATTS WORTH OF BATTERIES AND
WE'RE UP TO ALMOST FOUR THOUSAND
THIS SUMMER SO IF YOU TALK ABOUT
THE MOST IMMEDIATE INVESTMENT
THAT'S BEING MADE WE'RE PUTTING
IN SOLAR WE'RE PUTTING IN SOME
WOMEN WERE PRIMARILY AND WE'RE
PUTTING IN BATTERIES TO MAKE
SURE WE CAN MANAGE WHAT TO
DO WHEN THE SUN COMES DOWN SO
THERE'S QUITE A MIX IT'S GOING
ON I TEND TO NOT WANT TO REFER
TO THE GRID IS THE FREEWAY OF
CALIFORNIA BUT IT IT BUT IT
GIVES YOU A PICTURE THAT THAT'S
REALLY WHAT'S GOING ON IT'S
GOING TO WEAR THE BILL PEOPLE
ARE WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE THAT
NEED THE RISK THE RESOURCES BUT
WE ARE KIND OF THE WHOLESALE
LEVEL WE ARE NOT DOWN AT THE
RETAIL LEVEL SO WE'RE NOT SEEING
THE ROOFTOP ON YOUR DO YOU KNOW
THE SOLAR SYSTEM ON YOUR HOUSE
OR A SMALL WIND TURBINE IN THE
BACK WE WE -- WE HAVE
VISIBILITY AT THE LARGER UNIT
SCALE I GUESS I WOULD SAY SO I
DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR
QUESTION BUT I'LL JUST ADD ONE
THING IF I MIGHT WHICH IS TWENTY
FIVE PERCENT OF THE POWER IS
NOT COMING FROM INSIDE THE STATE
WE ARE PART OF THE WESTERN GRAD
AND I THINK PRESIDENT REYNOLDS
MADE THIS POINT AND -- WE
RELY ON THE REST OF THE WEST THE
SUPPLY SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR
POWER -- AND THAT MEANS
WE NEED GOOD RELATIONS WITH
THE REST OF THE WEST OF BOTH
BECAUSE WE NEED THEIR POWER
AT TIMES AND BECAUSE WE HAVE
ACCESS TO OUR TIMES AND WE
NEED A PLACE TO SELL IT AND
MAKING THAT WORK AT WHICH IS
INCREASINGLY DONE THROUGH THE
ENERGY IMBALANCE MARKET AND
THE EXPERT EXTENDED DAY AHEAD
MARKET THAT THE K. SO IS NOW
WORKING ON -- IS A WAY TO
I THINK MAKE ALL OF THIS OPERATE
MORE COST EFFECTIVELY AND MORE
RELIABLY UNDERSTAND ON THAT
SOLAR POINT THE SOLAR SURPLUSES
THAT WE CAN SELL OUT OF STATE
ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE ECONOMICS
FOR IN STATE SOLAR DEVELOPERS
BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY HAVE
FOR SOURCES OF POTENTIAL
REVENUE AND MARKETS THAT THEY
CAN SELL TO AT TIMES THAT
CALIFORNIA MAY NOT MEET NEEDED
BECAUSE WE HAVE BIG SURPLUSES
OF THE AFTERNOON RIGHT NOW
THANK YOU M. I APPRECIATE
THAT I NOTICED IN ONE OF YOUR
COMMENTS EARLIER THAT YOU
SAID YOU'RE VERY EXCITED AND
LOVE LOVE THAT YOU LOOK AT THE
GLASS HALF FULL OKAY AND LET
ME JUST SAY THAT RESETTING YOUR
COMMENTS EARLIER THAT THAT WE
DID IN CALIFORNIA ACHIEVE ONE
HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE AND
ENERGY AND -- FOR ONE TIME
IT BRIEFLY WITH YOU DO YOU
RECALL I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE DO
YOU RECALL HOW LONG THAT BRIEF
MOMENT WITH YES I'M JUST
A MINUTE IT WAS VERY SHORT
IT WAS A FIFTY FOUR SECONDS
OKAY THERE WE GO FIFTY FOUR
SECONDS SO JUST REMIND EVERYBODY
SETS AND THERE ARE TWENTY FOUR
ADDITIONAL HOURS FIFTY NINE
MINUTES IN THE REST OF THE
DAY WHERE WE ARE GOING TO NEED
RELIABLE ENERGY IN ORDER TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE POWER STAYS ON SO
I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT IT
IS ACHIEVABLE IT'S I MEAN IT'S
BEEN DONE IT'S LIKE THE MAN
WALKING ON THE MOON WE'VE DONE
IT YOU KNOW AND AND I GET IT --
ART SO I KNOW THAT YOU AYE SO
JUST FULL DISCLOSURE I'M SURE
YOU KNOW I REPRESENT SEVENTY
PERCENT THE STATE'S FOSSIL
FUEL INDUSTRY -- AND NATURAL
GAS NO YOU DON'T KNOW THAT
AND SO THAT NATURAL
GAS PLANTS AND I YOU KNOW
APPLIED THE GOVERNOR HE EVEN
REALIZES THAT WE NEED THE
NATURAL GAS PLANTS OTHERWISE
THOSE NATURAL GAS PLANTS THAT
YOU MENTIONED IN REDONDO BEACH
HUNTINGTON BEACH LONG BEACH
IN OXNARD THEY WERE SUPPOSED
TO CLOSE ON TWENTY IN TWENTY
TWENTY WOULD BE CLOSED RIGHT
NOW IF WE DIDN'T DESPERATELY
NEED THEM BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY
ACHIEVE AT WHAT WE WOULD CALL
GREEN RENEWABLE TECHNOLOGY
WERE IN CALIFORNIA HAS
INVESTED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
OVER THE LAST DECADE IN GREEN
TECHNOLOGY GREEN TECHNOLOGY
AND -- WE'VE ACHIEVED THAT
THE DIVORCE SECOND GOAL AND
ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT AYE SO
OPERATOR BECAUSE AGAIN YOU DON'T
CONTROL WHERE THEIR POWER COMES
FROM YOU JUST TRY TO DISTRIBUTE
IT SO THAT WE ALL HAVE POWER AND
WE DON'T HAVE ROLLING BLACKOUTS
AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IN
THAT WE DON'T LIVE IN THIRD
WORLD CONDITIONS AND WE FLIP THE
LIGHT SWITCH THE LIGHT COMES ON
-- WE NEED THE AIR CONDITIONING
LIKE MY COLLEAGUE THE VICE CHAIR
SAID M. ARE YOU CONCERNED AT
ALL AS I IS SO OPERATORS AND
ABOUT THE END NATURAL GLASS
THE FIVE NATURAL GAS PLANTS
THAT COULD BE TAKEN OFF LINE
THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN
OFFLINE ALREADY ACCORDING TO
THIS LEGISLATURE BECAUSE THEY
PASSED LEGISLATION TO TAKE IT
OFF IN TWENTY TWENTY ARE YOU
CONCERNED AT ALL AT THIS MOMENT
IF THOSE WERE TO BE TAKEN OFF
LINE WHERE YOU WOULD GET ENERGY
TO DISTRIBUTE THROUGH THE STATE
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE
ISO'S PRIMARY FOCUS IS ALWAYS
RELIABILITY AND OUR STAFF
IS VERY GOOD ABOUT GIVING US
VERY VERY DETAILED REPORTS
ON HOW WE ARE ACHIEVING THEIR
ACROSS THE STATE WE HAVE
DURING MY BRIEF WHEN YOU'RE
ON THE BOARD HAD TO EXTEND
THE LIFE OF A COUPLE OF
RELATIVELY SMALL NATURAL GAS
UNITS AND I THINK ONE OF THE MAY
HAVE BEEN DOWN IN KERN COUNTY
THERE WAS A THOROUGH DISCUSSION
AT THE BOARD BECAUSE THE I SO
IS ALSO COMMITTED TO HELPING
THE STATE ACHIEVE ITS ENERGY
POLICY GOALS WHICH INCLUDE AS
I MENTIONED SB ONE HUNDRED AND
AND MEETING THOSE RENEWABLE
PORTFOLIO STANDARDS OBJECTIVES
SO WE ALWAYS WILL HAVE A VERY
THOROUGH DISCUSSION AND WE
TRY TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO
DO TO PRESERVE RELIABILITY THE
CLEANEST MOST EFFICIENT AND
COST EFFECTIVE WAY WE CAN WE
HAVE VOTED TO EXTEND THE LIFE
FOR ONE YEAR AT A TIME WITH
POWER PLANT CONTRACTS ON SOME
UNITS THAT WERE SCHEDULED TO
RETIRE SO I HAVE TO BE HONEST
WITH YOU THE FIVE THAT YOU'VE
MENTIONED I KNOW TWO OF THEM I
THINK SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
STATUS OF THEM ARE AND WHERE
THEY'RE LOCATED AND WHAT THE
LOAD CIRCUMSTANCES ARE AND HOW
WE WOULD MEET THE OBLIGATION
TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON IF THOSE
PLANS WERE TO RETIRE IN TWENTY
TWENTY TWO OR TWENTY THREE
OR WHATEVER THREE ALMOST BUT
I WILL TELL YOU THERE IS A
VERY IN DEPTH AND THOROUGH
PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH AND
IT COMES ALL THE WAY TO THE
BOARD AND IS PRESENTED WITH
THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS THE
RELIABILITY ANALYSIS AND WE DO
DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO KEEP
THE LIGHTS ON BUT WE TRY TO
DO IT FOR THE MINIMUM TIME
PERIOD THAT WE CAN WITH
THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE TO REMAIN
AWARE OF CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN YOU
HAVE AS BAD A HYDRO YEARS WERE
HAVING AND THERE'S JUST ALL
KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T
NECESSARILY PREDICT WE'RE ENDING
UP AS YOU HEARD FROM PRESIDENT
-- REYNOLDS WE HAVE A HIGHER LOW
GROWTH WHICH IS PROBABLY A GOOD
THING THAT'S A SIGN THE ECONOMY
IS DOING BETTER BUT WE HAVE A
HIGHER LOAD CLOTHES GROWTH THAN
WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL
PLANNING FORECASTS AND YOU'VE
GOT TO HAVE A WAY TO MEET THAT
BECAUSE THE I SO AT THE END OF
THE DAY IS THE ONE THAT HAS TO
MAKE THE DECISION AND FIGURE
OUT HOW TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON SO
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU -- JUST ADD
A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE IS THAT
THE THE PROCESS G. AND REFERS
TO -- THE RELIABILITY MUST RUN
AND THE CPM I'M NOT GOING TO
REMEMBER WHAT IT STANDS FOR --
TO FOR THE ISO DIRECTLY CONTRACT
IN A FEW CASES WITH A PLANTS
TO KEEP THEM ONLINE DOES PLAY
A ROLE BUT IT IS SORT OF A VERY
LAST ITS ROLE MOST OF THESE
DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THE CPUC
-- TO KEEP IT TO KEEP PLANTS
RUNNING AND SO FORTH AND BY
VARIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL PARTS OF
THE GOVERNMENT -- IF YOU
LOOK AT THOSE PLANTS THAT YOU
NAMES AND THE ALL OF THE ONCE
THROUGH COOLING PLANTS THE CC
PUT OUT A REPORT IN A COUPLE
OF YEARS AGO THEY SHOWED WHILE
THEY'RE STILL RUNNING THEY'RE
NOT RUNNING VERY OFTEN SO
THEY ARE CRITICAL RIGHT NOW TO
KEEPING THE THE GRID IMBALANCE
BUT THEY ARE NOT HUGE EMITTERS
BECAUSE MOST OF THEM HAVE
CAPACITY FACTORS BELOW TEN
PERCENT MOST HOURS THEY
ARE NOT OPERATING BUT THEY
ARE CRITICAL AND IF WE AND
OF COURSE THE LOAD FORECASTS
ARE FORECASTS WE'RE NOT SURE
HOW HOT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO
GET WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TV'S
ARE GOING TO GET PLUGGED IN
WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S INSTALLED
AIR CONDITIONING ALTHOUGH MORE
AND MORE PEOPLE ON THE CO STAR
-- AND SO WE NEED TO BE READY
WHEN WE FIND OUT AS WE DID BY
THE WAY BACK IN TWO THOUSAND
SIX THERE'S A LOT MORE AIR
CONDITIONING IN THE SYSTEM THAN
WE THOUGHT AND THAT PEAK IS
HIGHER THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS
GONNA BE WHEN WE HAD A REALLY
BAD DAY AND THAT IS WHY
WE NEED TO HAVE ALL OPTIONS
AVAILABLE THE GOAL THE
GOAL OBVIOUSLY IS TO RETIRE ONCE
THROUGH COOLING PLANTS THEY DO
HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL BRAZEN VIA
MENTAL CONCERNS THAT WE NEED
TO ADDRESS -- BUT WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO IT
WE CAN CONTINUE TO BALANCE THE
SYSTEM AND OF COURSE YOUR NEXT
QUESTION IS GONNA BE ABOUT
DIABLO THE SAME ISSUE COMES
UP WITH THE APPLE -- WE ARE
-- THE DEVIL IS GOING TO HAVE
TO BE RETIRED AT SOME POINT I
AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU I
KNOW WHETHER IT SHOULD BE AN
HOUR LATER -- I HAVEN'T AGAIN
BUT THE FACT IS WE DO WE AT THE
CHI SO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE SYSTEM WILL STILL BALANCE
AND WE NEED TO BE I THINK
BETTER AT COMMUNICATING WHAT
THAT MEANS BECAUSE I THINK A
LOT OF PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT THOSE
ONCE THROUGH COOLING PLANTS
AND THINK THEY'RE RUNNING ALL
THE TIME AND THEY'RE JUST NOT
-- BUT THEY ARE INSURANCE THAT
WE REALLY NEED RIGHT NOW I SHE
IS TO HAVE THAT THAT THE P.
YOU SEE REALLY HAS KIND OF THE
LEAD ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY
TO DECIDE WHAT THE RESOURCE
-- PLAN IS GONNA LOOK LIKE AND
TO MAKE THE RESOURCE ADEQUACY
ASSESSMENT BUT THERE'S PRETTY
TIGHT COORDINATION THE ISO
STAFF THE EXPERTS ARE OVER
THERE TELLING HIM WHAT WE NEED
WHEN WE NEED IT ONE OF THE BIG
CHANGES AS AS YOU MENTIONED IS
THE IDEA THAT WE'VE GOT TO GO
TO SEVEN BY TWENTY FOUR MODELING
WE NEED IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH
TO JUST HAVE AN ANNUAL AVERAGE
OF HOW MUCH ENERGY YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE BEEN MAYBE A SEASONAL
ADJUSTMENT FOR SPRING TO SUMMER
WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE POWER
WILL COME FROM AT NO EIGHT PM
IN SEPTEMBER WHEN THE SUN IS
GOING DOWN BUT EVERYBODY'S AIR
CONDITIONING IS STILL OPERATING
AND SO I THINK THERE'S BEEN
REALLY A SEA CHANGE IN EFFORT TO
COORDINATE THE LOAD FORECASTING
THAT'S GOING ON AT THE ENERGY
COMMISSION THE RESOURCE ADEQUACY
DECISIONS AND PLANNING THAT ARE
GOING ON AT THE P. C. AND THEN
WHAT I'LL CALL THE MORE REAL
TIME HOW DO WE MEET THE LOAD AT
SEVEN PM ISSUES THAT THE ISO IS
CONFRONTING THANK TO ME THERE
WILL BE A LOT OF PROGRESS ON
THAT FRONT NO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH I GUESS I I DIDN'T WANT
TO GIVE YOU THE IMPRESSION THAT
I THOUGHT YOU GUYS AS -- HAD
THE DECISION MAKING ABILITY TO
BE ABLE TO SHUT DOWN OR KEEP
ONLINE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT
THE QUESTION I REALLY WANTED
AN ANSWER TO AND I APPRECIATE
YOUR COMMENTS WAS -- YES
IF THE LEGISLATURE THAT THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED THAT BILL
SAID THOSE POWER PLANTS AS GAS
BUT YOU WHETHER THEY'RE USED AN
HOUR A DAY FIVE HOURS A DAY TWO
HOURS A MONTH IT DOESN'T MATTER
AND IF THEY WERE REALLY TO COME
OFFLINE IN TWENTY TWENTY THEY'VE
BEEN EXTENDED EVERY YEAR UNDER
CONTRACT AND I BELIEVE THE PC
DOES THAT CBC DOES THAT NOT YOU
GUYS IF THOSE WERE TO COME OFF
LINE CAN YOU STILL MEET YOUR
MISSION FOR ENERGY RELIABILITY
THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND I
THINK THE ANSWER IS NOT WITH
ENOUGH CONFIDENCE -- YOU KNOW
THERE'S A CHANCE WE COULD --
THIS IS ALL PROBABILITIES AND
THE FORK AND WHERE LOAD ENDS UP
BUT RIGHT NOW THOSE PLANS ARE
REALLY NEEDED IN ORDER TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ATTAIN THE EXPECTED
RELIABILITY LEVEL THAT HIGH SO
AIMS FOR IN THAT THE CONSUMERS
ARE CALIFORNIA EXPECT THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR THAT AM I ALSO --
-- I ALSO KNOW THAT A LOT
FOSSIL FUELS AND OIL AND GAS
ENERGY PLAYED A LOT OF ROLE
IN THE ENERGY GRID SECURITY
THAT WE HAVE IN THE STATE --
-- I KNOW THAT ALTHOUGH WE
ARE REDUCING OUR PRODUCTION
HERE IN THE STATE BY I DON'T
KNOW I THINK IT'S FOREIGN
SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND BARRELS
SOMETHING LIKE THAT ANNUALLY
WE ARE INCREASING OUR IMPORTS
AND OBVIOUSLY ARE YOU FOLLOWING
WHAT'S GOING ON IN ECUADOR
ONLY A PARTIAL IS YES --
YES OKAY THEN THE AYE THERE'S
THERE MANY DISRUPTIONS IN
THE -- HYDROCARBON INDUSTRY
THESE DAYS ECUADOR'S ONE THE
CLASH -- EDITION RUSSIA AND
UKRAINE IS ANOTHER -- AND
THE PRICE OF OIL IS VERY HIGH
THE PRICE OF OIL IS LARGELY
SEPARATE FROM ANYTHING THE
KAYSAR DOES WE THERE'S NO
I THINK THERE IS NOW NO
OIL BURNING GENERATION IN
CALIFORNIA AND NOT AND NOT MUCH
YEAH I MEAN IT'S A FRACTION
OF ONE PERCENT IN THE ENTIRE
WESTERN GRID OF THE PRICE
OF NATURAL GAS OF COURSE IS
CENTRAL TO SETTING ELECTRICITY
PRICES CORRECT AND THE UK HAS
FOUND THIS OUT WELL AS THEY
HAVE SEEN PRICES SKYROCKET AS
MOST OF EUROPE AS AS NATURAL
GAS PRICES HAVE GONE UP --
AND THAT -- THAT PLAYS A MAJOR
ROLE -- THE CALIFORNIA IS
A PRODUCER OF NATURAL GAS WE
ARE ALSO AS YOU POINT OUT A
BIG IMPORTER OF NATURAL GAS --
WE HAVE BEEN FOR QUITE AWHILE
DO YOU IF YOU AND SO FOLLOWING
THE ISSUE AND YOU KNOW IN IN
THEM PARDON ME TONGUE IN CHEEK
CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN --
BECAUSE I THINK AT I KNOW THAT
CALIFORNIA PURCHASE FIFTY ONE
PERCENT OF ECUADORIAN GAS AND
OIL N. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE
ACCESS TO FIFTY ONE PERCENT
OF ECUADOR'S PRODUCTION WE ARE
GOING TO BE IN A THIRD WORLD
COUNTRY SITUATION AND WE'RE
GONNA HAVE TO REACT FAST TO
CREATE RELIABLE ENERGY HERE
AND AND I I'VE BEEN SAYING
THAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS
AND SO THE SAME QUESTION WITH
THAT I HAD A NATURAL GAS AND
IMPORTING OF NATURAL GAS FROM
ECUADOR'S SOLID ONE THIRD
OF THE ENERGY THAT WE GET
FOR NATURAL GAS COMES FROM
COLUMBIA ARE WE CONCERNED AT
ALL ABOUT THAT ISSUE GOING ON
COLUMBIA AND IMPORTING FOREIGN
SOURCES OF GAS TO THE STATE
TO MEET THE STATE'S DEMAND
I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I I'M
SURPRISED THAT THAT STATISTIC
I I WILL HAVE TO THINK THROUGH
THAT THAT CAN SEND YOU THE
ARTICLE THAT NATURAL GAS IS
COMING IN THE ASSEMBLY AND
INSURE OF NATURAL GAS IS
COMING FROM FOR ME -- BUT
-- CERTAINLY I DO WORRY
ABOUT GAS RELIABILITY --
IT WHETHER IT'S FROM THE --
FROM -- CENTRAL AMERICA OR FROM
TEXAS -- THAT WE DON'T GET
ANY FROM TEXAS I DON'T THINK
DOING WELL WELL CERTAINLY THE
CALIFORNIA ELECTRICITY CRISIS
WAS IN PART TRIGGERED BY A
BREAK IN THE PIPELINE THAT
BROUGHT NATURAL GAS FROM THE
TEXAS NEW MEXICO AREA --
SO -- THE CALIFORNIA
IS A MAJOR USER OF NATURAL
GAS FOR BOTH -- ELECTRICITY
GENERATION AND FOR -- AND DIRECT
COMBUSTION -- AND USE COMBUSTION
-- AND THE HIGH PRICES ARE
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
IMPACTING CONSUMERS RIGHT NOW --
AND I THINK WHILE GASOLINE
PRICES ARE THE THING THAT ENDS
UP ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE
NEWSPAPER UTILITY BILLS ARE THE
THING THAT A LOT OF CUSTOMERS
ALSO OR INTO MORE SO ARE WORRIED
ABOUT THE STATE'S SO THANK
YOU FOR THAT I I JUST KIND OF
PUT IT ON YOUR RADAR ABOUT AND
YOU KNOW THAT WAS IT THERE IS
-- DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HAS
CALIFORNIA AS A NATION STATE
PER SE IN THE END -- PRODUCING
OR PURCHASING PRODUCED OIL
OUTSIDE AS THE STATE OF THE
STATE OF THE COUNTRY WHERE THE
ENERGY ISLAND WITHIN THE STATE
AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT BY
PLAYING HASN'T BEEN REPAIRED
AND WE DON'T GET NATURAL GAS
FROM TEXAS SOME RELY ON ECUADOR
OR SOME OTHER COUNTRIES AND AT
COLUMBIA RUSSIA'S STILL WHICH
AMAZES ME WITH WHAT'S GOING ON
BECAUSE WE PASSED A RESOLUTION
ABOUT PROTECTING UKRAINE AND
DISENGAGING EVERYTHING FROM
RUSSIAN ON ONE HAND WERE LIKE
SLOPPY YOU CRANEY ON THE OTHER
HAND WERE FUNDING THE WAR
AGAINST THEM SO IT'S JUST WEIRD
TO ME THAT WE DO THOSE THINGS
AND BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE
ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU GUYS
AND I LEARNED ALSO WHEN I RETIRE
SO ABOUT THAT THE DUCK BILLED
THE DUCK BACK WHAT IS THAT THAT
BIG THE DARKER OF THE DEATH
HEARD THAT OKAY THE DECK CURSED
AND THE DEBT CURVE AND THAT
IT MADE ME TAKE A STEP BACK
RATE IN THE DAYTIME HIGHS
SUNSHINE DAYS WE'RE DOING
GREAT AND THEN AT NIGHT IT ALL
DISAPPEARS AND AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED AND
THE FIRST HAS THAT GOTTEN ANY
BETTER I THINK WE STILL
HAVE THE DOCKER IS IT THE WHAT'S
BETTER ABOUT IT IS WE NOW HAVE
BATTERIES YEAH WE HAVE STORAGE
ON THE SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN THE
BIG CHANGE ARE THOSE LITHIUM
BATTERIES I GUESS SO YEAH
SO EUROPE AND ISRAEL HAVE DONE
STUDIES ON LITHIUM AND THERE'S
-- THERE ARE RAISING DALY
CAME CAPACITY OF AS STORAGE
OF THOSE LITHIUM BATTERIES
AND DISPOSAL OF THOSE LITHIUM
BATTERIES TO -- IT'S CALLED
A CLASS A READING FOR TOXICITY
AND THEY JUST MADE ME THINK
OF HOW YOU I DON'T LIKE AND
I DON'T THOSE MOVIES THAT YOU
THERE ON THOSE YELLOW SUITS
WITH THE MASK AND THE MACHINE'S
GOING B. B. B. B. I MEAN ARE
YOU WORRIED OR CONCERNED ABOUT
LITHIUM STORAGE IN THE DISPOSAL
LITHIUM BATTERIES AND BEING
TOXIC IF EUROPE IN ISRAEL ARE
ALSO ARE TAKING ACTION RIGHT NOW
AND TO LIMIT THAT BECAUSE OF THE
TOXICITY AND AND THAT THE
LEVELS OF LITHIUM THAT ARE NOT
DISPOSABLE AND I CAN'T REMEMBER
THE NAME OF THE EXACT THING
BUT IT'S A CARBON SOMETHING --
COBALT ITS COBALT ARE YOU
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT DOES
THAT CONCERN YOU AS AN ENERGY
I DON'T SEE NOT MANIPULATOR
PROVIDER YOU NOT A PROVIDER
YOU'RE A MANAGER THE MANAGER
THE GRID I I WILL SAY I'M
SMILING THROUGH MY MASK A
LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I THINK I
ALLOWED YOUR PRIOR COME FOR
ME TO ESCAPE BEFORE I COULD
EVER UNDER WAY BACK TO THE
TOXIC SUBSTANCE CONTROL WHERE
I COULD TALK TO HER ABOUT WHAT
THE STATE'S DOING BECAUSE I
SUSPECT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT
ARE WORKING ON THIS ISSUE IT'S
ALSO INTERESTING TO ME I DID A
PRESENTATION FOR THE UC DAVIS --
ENERGY MASTERS PROGRAM AND THIS
IS EXACTLY THE QUESTION I GOT
FROM SOME OF THE STUDENTS SO I
WILL TELL YOU THERE ARE LOTS OF
PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED
IN UNDERSTANDING THE HAZMAT
IMPLICATIONS OF MOVING TO THE
BATTERY FUTURE THAT WE NOW
RECOGNIZE IS GOING TO BE KEY TO
BACKING UP THE SOLAR THAT'S IN
THE SYSTEM YEAH SO I DON'T THINK
THESE ARE MINOR QUESTIONS THAT
YOU'RE ASKING YES WE NEED TO BE
CONCERNED ABOUT THEM THE EYES SO
PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY DIRECT
RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE WE DON'T
OWN THE BATTERIES AND AT THE
END OF THE DAY MY UNDERSTANDING
OF THE WAY THE TOXIC SUBSTANCE
CONTROL LAWS WORK THE OWNER IS
THE ONE THAT ENDS UP KIND OF
HAVING LIFE THE DEATH FOREVER
RESPONSIBILITY WHEN YOU HAVE
A HAZARDOUS MATERIALS BUT I
THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE
TO THINK ABOUT AS ONE OF THE
KIND OF THE BIG POLICY ISSUES
AFFECTING THE COMMITMENT THAT
WE'RE MAKING THE BATTERIES
BECAUSE THERE'S NO QUESTION
THAT FROM MY EYES SO HAPPY OF
RELIABILITY WE LIKE BATTERIES
AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB
THEY ARE PERFORMING EXTREMELY
WELL FOR US BUT WE NEED TO BE
SURE WE'RE ON TOP OF ANY OTHER
ISSUES THAT COULD BE ASSOCIATED
WITH THAT SO THAT WE'RE PREPARED
TO ADDRESS THAT I KNOW I ASKED
YOU THE QUESTION BECAUSE WE'RE
MOVING SO FAST IN CALIFORNIA
WE'RE FOLLOWING EUROPE WE'RE NOT
THE LEADER AND WE'RE FOLLOWING
YOUR THAT WE'RE MOVING SO
FAST TO WHAT IS CALLED GREEN
TECHNOLOGY OFFER CHEAPER NABIL
RELIABLE ENERGY FOSSIL FUELS
WHICH BELIEVE ME IF YOU DID
THAT THAT THE CALCULATION OF
EMISSIONS FROM IMPORTED SHIPS
AND VESSELS IT'S LIKE TWENTY
SEVEN POINT SIX MILLION METRIC
TONS OF CARBON EMISSIONS AND TO
PRODUCE A PIPELINE THERE'S LIKE
SEVEN YOU KNOW YOU KNOW IT'S NOT
IT'S NOT EVEN COMPATIBLE IT'S
IT'S BETTER TO DO IT WHERE WE
ARE HERE THAN HAVE IT IMPORTED
BUT BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING SO
FAST AND WE'RE RELYING ON THIS
BATTERY SITUATION AND EUROPE AND
ISRAEL HAVE ALREADY DETERMINED
THAT THIS IS A HIGH TOXIC THING
IN THE EXACT LANGUAGE ON IT
SAYS YOU IN A EUROPEAN UNION
CHEMICAL REGULATORS IN HAVE IT
LISTED AS A CATEGORY CLASS ONE
A. CLASSIFICATION WHICH MAKES
SENSE SINCE ELIGIBILITY AND
SUBSTANCE VERY AYE CONCERNED
-- WHICH RESULTS AND THE S.
B. H. C. WHICH I DON'T KNOW
WHAT IS WHICH RESULTS IN USE
OF BEING RESTRICTED BY THE
USE OF CHEMICAL STRATEGY AND
SUSTAINABILITY PLANS SO THEY'RE
ALREADY LOOKING AT IT TO GET
OFF OF IT BECAUSE IT'S SO SCARY
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING
INTO IT AND PROBABLY WON'T
MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT EUROPE
AND ISRAEL ARE MAKING FOR TEN
OR TWELVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD
WHEN WE HAVE A LARGE CAPACITY
OF I MEAN WE FILL IN LANDFILLS
BECAUSE WE DON'T ON MATTRESSES
THERE REALLY AREN'T WHAT WE'RE
GONNA DO WITH ALL THESE LITHIUM
BATTERIES SO I JUST IN THE
ONLY REASON I KNOW YOU HAVE
NO CONTROL OVER IT OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT BUT YOU DO RELY ON
LITHIUM BATTERY FOR STORAGE
IN ORDER TO DISTRIBUTE POWER
WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN AND
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF IF
IF I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW
HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE BUT
IT'S GONNA HAPPEN THERE'S NO
DOUBT ZERO TO TEN YEARS LET'S
CALL IT TEN YEARS IN THE STOP
REMOVING AND THERE COULD BE NEW
TECHNOLOGY DEVELOPED BY SEN BUT
IF THEY TAKE AWAY THOSE LITHIUM
BATTERIES DOES WOULD THAT
CONCERN YOU IF YOU WERE STILL
IN THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE IN
TODAY IF WE LOST THE LITHIUM
BATTERIES YES SIR -- THAT WOULD
DEFINITELY CONCERNED ME -- WE
HAVE FOUR THOUSAND MEGAWATTS
OF LITHIUM BATTERIES AND WE
ARE RELYING ON THEM TO GET
THROUGH THE NECK OF THE DOCTOR
-- WHEN THE WHEN WE REALLY
NEED -- POWER TO COME FROM
SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN SOLAR
AS THE SUN IS SETTING --
THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES
OF COURSE -- THE WAY WE MAKE
THE SYSTEM BALANCES NOT JUST
THROUGH BATTERIES BUT ALSO
THROUGH DEMAND RESPONSE THROUGH
IMPORTS FROM OTHER PARTS OF
THE WEST AND EVENTUALLY
ALTHOUGH -- IT'S A FAIRLY SMALL
-- ARE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
RIGHT AWAY THROUGH CLEAN FIRM
-- GENERATION WHICH COULD BE
HYDROGEN -- IT COULD PLAY
-- -- AND OTHER TECHNOLOGIES
THAT ARE DOWN THE ROAD I
ALWAYS HAVE TO PUT IN A PLUG
FOR HYDRO ELECTRICITY THIS
THAT IS THAT IF YOU CAME BACK
ELEMENT OF OUR HOME MY GOSH
HYDRO ELECTRICITY I'M A BIG
FAN OF THE B. CREEK POWER PLANT
YOU KNOW FROM HUNTINGTON TO
SHAFFER TO MILLER TEN AND HAVE
ALL THAT HYDRO WATER PRODUCE
THAT WITH VERY LITTLE ENERGY
COST RIGHT THE WATER JUST RUNS
DOWN THE HILL AND IT CREATES
ENERGY ENOUGH IT'S AVAILABLE
WHEN YOU NEED IT THAT'S WHY YEAH
CRITICAL YEAH I'M SORRY
YES MA'AM THANK YOU
AM I JUST GOT A TEXT MESSAGE
THAT BASED ON THAT LEAVE HIM
INFORMATION I JUST GAVE YOU THE
FRENCH HAVE COME ON BOARD AND
THEY CLASSIFY LITHIUM CARBONATE
LITHIUM HYDROXIDE AND LITHIUM
CHLORIDE AS A CATEGORY ONE
EIGHT AT TOXICITY TOXINS
SO AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE
GOING WITH IT BUT I'M JUST
SAYING THAT OTHER COUNTRIES ARE
ALREADY REALIZING THAT LITHIUM
IS THAT GONNA BE A HUGE PROBLEM
TO HEALTH AND SAFETY AND AND
AS HUMAN BEINGS AND -- WE'RE
MOVING INTO THAT SO I WAS
JUST CURIOUS AND THANK YOU FOR
ANSWERING THAT QUESTION AND
I BET IT DON'T PLEASE DON'T
TAKE THIS WRONG I HAVE FULL
CONFIDENCE IN YOU BECAUSE YOU
ARE A BULLDOG AND YOU HAVE A
LEGAL BACKGROUND AND I THINK
THAT WHEN SOMEBODY COMES TO
YOU IF THEY EVER DID AND SAYS
WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS YOU
COULD LOOK I'M RIGHT NEAR
REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY ARE
IN STATE YEAH WE'RE NOT GONNA
DO THAT BECAUSE CALIFORNIANS
WILL SUFFER FOR IT AND SO
I APPRECIATE YOU AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO YOUR CONFIRMATION AND
I'M I I THINK YOU'RE WONDERFUL
TO AND BUT I JUST GOT THAT
SINCE FROM HER AND WANT TO
HEAR THAT THANK YOU THANK YOU
THANK YOU SENATOR GROVE --
I WOULD AGREE THAT TOUR IS
INCREDIBLE -- AND OBVIOUSLY
THE CONVERSATION IT'S REALLY
QUITE FASCINATING TO LISTEN
TO THE DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSION
ON ALL THE QUESTIONS IT'S
VERY COMPLICATED I THINK YOU
KNOW FOR THOSE OF US -- THE
SYMBIOTE SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE WORK THAT CAL I SO
DOES WHAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE ROLE OF THE CPUC
OF THE ROLE OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION IT'S QUITE
HARD I THINK FOR MANY PEOPLE
TO QUITE UNDERSTAND THE
DISTINCTION AND THE LINES OF --
RESPONSIBILITY BUT -- YOU KNOW
I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU THE
QUESTION EARLIER EVEN THOUGH
YOU'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR
TRIP BUDGET TRAILER BILLS BUT --
I THINK I GOT ALL OF THE ANSWERS
I NEEDED FROM WHAT -- SENATOR
GROVE ASK YOU IN TERMS OF EACH
CATEGORY TO TO KNOW WHAT THE
ANSWER IS ARE WE NEED THE
RESOURCES -- AND
OBVIOUSLY -- YOU KNOW WHEN YOU
LOOK AT WE WE COUNT ON TWENTY
FIVE PERCENT FROM OUTSIDE --
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT FACTORS
YOU TALK ABOUT THE THE ENERGY
SURPLUS MARKET THE EXTENDED
DAY AHEAD I MEAN THIS IS A
VERY DELICATE THING TO MANAGE
SO I KIND OF THINK THAT IF
I WERE TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE
BUDGET TRAILER BILL ON ENERGY
YOU WOULD SAY GIVEN EVERYTHING
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY WE
NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
SUMMER REGARDLESS --
SO IT IN SOME RESPECTS I WISH
MY COLLEAGUES IN THE ASSEMBLY
AND SENATE WE'RE HERE TO HEAR
SOME OF THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW
IT THIS IS AN ACTION WE'RE
GONNA BE TAKING OUT TONIGHT SO
I I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED THE
QUESTION -- YOU SAID CAROL
I ESOS RESPONSIBILITY IS TO
KEEP THE LIGHTS ON OBVIOUSLY
THE CPUC HAS A DIFFERENT ROLE
AND THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION HAS A DIFFERENT ROLE
ANOTHER ROLE SO --
FRANKLY YOU'VE ANSWERED ALL MY
QUESTIONS -- FROM MY COLLEAGUES
BUT I JUST HAVE TO SAY
I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION
BEFORE WHEN WE WERE DOING
OUR REMOTE I REMEMBER
OUR CONVERSATIONS WE ARE WELL
SERVED BY YOUR KNOWLEDGE --
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
TODAY AND AGAIN YOUR PATIENCE
WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO
AHEAD AND GO TO MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC WHO -- WILL WISH
TO WEIGH IN ON THIS BOTH IN
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION I'M GONNA
START -- RIGHT HERE IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED TO SEE WHO'S
HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT AND
LET ME ASK YOU TO COME AHEAD
GIVE YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION
AFFINITY AND YOUR VERY BRIEF --
COMMENTS ALTHOUGH I KNOW YOU'VE
BEEN WAITING AND HERE ALL DAY
SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT PLEASE
WELCOME AND GO AHEAD THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OF A CHANCE MANY
JOBS FROM THE INDEPENDENT --
AT THE ENERGY PRODUCERS -- AND
A COUPLE HAVE THREE HOURS WORTH
OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT AFTER
THE CONVERSATION HERE BUT I --
I I WAS A BY THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE NATIONAL BOARD EARLY ON
IT COULD BE BUILT THAT INTO IT
I THINK IT'S IT'S TURNED INTO
A GREAT SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE
OF CALIFORNIA AND I THINK THE
WAY YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT
THIS IS THEY'RE THERE FOR THE
AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER I HAVE
THE DOT THAT PROFESSOR WHEN
SHE TALKED ABOUT THE THE MOVIE
PEOPLE READY MARKETS BUT IT'S
REALLY KIND OF OPERATE IS
AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER MOVING
ELECTRONS AROUND IF YOU NEED
TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM AS SORT
OF A HIGHWAY SYSTEM WE'VE BEEN
VERY SUCCESSFUL IN CALIFORNIA
I REPRESENT PRETTY MUCH ONE OF
EVERYTHING IS A SAID EARLIER
BETTY BOOP CLUED UTILITY SCALE
SOLAR WHICH COULDN'T REALLY BE
DEVELOPED THE WAY IT IS TODAY
WITHOUT SOMETHING LIKE THE EYES
SO BEING ABLE TO MOVE THOSE
ELECTRONS IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T
DISCRIMINATE AGAINST WHO OWNS
WHO OWNS THAT AS WELL AS I
ALSO REPRESENTS SOME OF THE
ONES TO COOLEY GUYS WHO IN
THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER OUR
OPERATING TO KEEP THE LIGHTS
ON FOR VERY SHORT PERIODS
OF TIME SO IS THAT PORTFOLIO
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IT'S
A GREAT INSTITUTION AND IT'S
A GREAT INSTITUTION HAS IT
IT'S GOT A GREAT BOARD AT
THESE TWO PEOPLE I THINK ARE
WE GET A HIGHLY QUALIFIED YOU
FOR TO FIX YOUR BORN STEEN
AND TALK ABOUT MARKETS AND I
HAD THAT -- WE ALL RESPECT HIM
INTERVIEW THAT ENGINE SURE IS A
ROCK STAR SHE WAS A PIONEER
WOMEN WHEN IT WOULD COME STATE
THAT ENERGY BASICALLY ANY THAT
RUNNING SMUD VERY EFFECTIVELY
AND I THINK VERY IMPORTANTLY
AND I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS IS HER
ROLE ON THE -- ON THE NATIONAL
ELECTRICITY RELIABILITY COUNCILS
IN THOSE CORPORATIONS VERY
IMPORTANT THAT'S WHAT SETS THE
RULES FOR KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON
A. N. SHE HAD A SPECIALTY THERE
SHE SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE ON
CYBER SECURITY AND THIS IS THE
ONE THING THAT DOES KEEP ME
UP AT NIGHT IN TERMS OF AS WE
EXPAND INTO A VERY INTERESTING
NEW -- WORLD OF OF OUR PRODUCE
ELECTRICITY THERE'S A LOT MORE
PORTALS THERE USED TO BE AND
THERE'S A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY
FOR PRETTY BAD THINGS TO HAPPEN
ALL OF US SO HAVING SOMEONE
THERE WAS SOME OF THE LEVEL
EX EXPERTISE THERE AND I'M
I'M SORRY I WANT MUCH MORE
LONGER THAN I THOUGHT BUT I
WOULD URGE YOU TO -- BASICALLY
CONFIRM THESE TWO VERY HIGHLY
QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH --
AND SHE TALKED A LOT ABOUT
CYBER SECURITY DURING THE LAST
CONFIRMATION -- PLEASE WELCOME
WHAT IS BILL JULIAN I AM A
MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC I WAS THE
CHIEF CONSULTED THE UTILITIES
IN THE COMMERCE COMMITTEE WHEN
WHEN WE'RE CHAIRED IT I WORKED
FOR SENATOR A SCOOTY WHEN SHE
SKIPPED WHEN SHE CHAIRED THE
SENATE ENERGY COMMITTEE I WAS
A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
DURING THE ENERGY CRISIS AND IS
INVOLVED IN -- LITIGATION AND
LEGISLATION I'M HERE TO SPEAK
VERY STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF
JAN CHAUDHRY WHO I'VE KNOWN FOR
PROFESSIONALLY FOR MORE THAN
THIRTY YEARS -- JAN
HIS CHANCE MANY JONES SAID
WHAT IS THE -- THE
GENERAL COUNSEL AND THEN
THE GENERAL MANAGER FOR SMUG
-- AT THE TIME OF CRISIS
SHE TURNED IT FROM A BASKET
CASE INTO A BUY THE BEST RUN
UTILITY IN THE COUNTRY -- AND
SHE IS AN IMPORTANT PERSON
TO DEAL WITH WHAT IS GOING TO
BE AN EXTREMELY CHALLENGING
PERIOD FOR CALIFORNIA AND THE
ISO IN ADDITION TO THE I ESOS
ROLL INS AMONG STATE AGENCIES
THERE WAS ALSO AN INTERFACE
BETWEEN STATE AND THE FEDERAL
ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION
AND THE FOR IS A DIMENSION
OF THE BOTH THE COST PROBLEM
AND THE RELIABILITY PROBLEM
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT VERY
MUCH BUT IT'S GOING TO BE
CRITICAL GOING FORWARD END
OF JAN CHAUDHRY IS A PERSON
WHO CAN BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH
THOSE ISSUES EFFECTIVELY ON
BEHALF OF PEOPLE SAY CALIFORNIA
-- YEAH I SO IS GONNA PLAY
A CRITICAL ROLE BOTH IN RATES
AND GENERAL LIABILITY AND
-- I I WANT TO COMMEND
THE GOVERNOR AND VENUE FOR --
THIS EXTRAORDINARY WOMAN THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON
NEXT WITNESS PLEASE WELCOME
BATTLING THOSE TWO -- A MANAGER
MEMBERS CALLED HOLY FROM THE
CALPINE CORPORATION WE'RE HERE
IN SUPPORT OF THE CONFIRMATION
OF BOTH DOCTOR BORN STEEN IN
MISSOURI A COUPLE COMMENTS IN
THE IT'S BEEN WILL NOTED THAT
DR BYRNE STEEN WERE EXTREMELY
LUCKY TO HAVE SOMEBODY OF HIS
CALIBER HERE IN VERY FORTUNATE
FOR HIS EXPERTISE AND BACKGROUND
THE ECONOMICS OF THE ENERGY
SECTORS IN A VERY VITAL
IN CREATING A CLEAN RELIABLE
AND AFFORDABLE GRID IN MISSOURI
-- -- EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP
HAS BEEN WELL NOTED BULLDOG
THINGS WERE TALKING ABOUT AND
HAVING SOMEBODY OF THAT CALIBER
INSIDE OF THIS ROLE TO PUSH FOR
CALIFORNIA SCHOOLS EXTREMELY
VITAL THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK
YOU SO MUCH PLEASE NEXT
WITNESS MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE I'LL BE BRIEF
I'M VERY MOLINE THE CALIFORNIA
MUNICIPAL UTILITIES ASSOCIATION
AND WE STAND IN SUPPORT OF
THE NOMINATIONS OF DOCTOR
BORN SEEN IN MISSOURI AND URGE
YOUR RIVALS THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH OKAY SEEING
-- NO FURTHER INDIVIDUALS
HERE TO SPEAK IN PERSON LET
ME WELCOME BACK OUR MODERATOR
AND ASK YOU TO TEE UP THOSE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
BUT THE YOU THAT WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT PLEASE
PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME
AND ONE ZERO FOUR SUPPORT
AT THIS TIME WE DO
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WE'LL GO TO NUMBER ONE FORTY
EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD GOOD
AFTERNOON SHARON MEMBERS
TIFFANY FAN ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA YOU FISHING THE
AND THE MANAGEMENT COUNCIL ALL
FROM THE HAPPENED IN OUR BOOK
THERE IN SUPPORT OF BOTH THE
GOVERNOR'S APPOINTEES THANK YOU
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
NO FURTHER WITNESSES
AT THIS TIME THERE ARE NO
OTHERS IN Q. OKAY LET ME
ASK IF I'LL BRING IT BACK
INTO ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE
WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION I DON'T SEE ANYONE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE
SO -- MISTER MODERATOR IF
YOU WILL T. OF THOSE WHO MAY
WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
AND FOR ANYONE WISHING TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME
AT THIS TIME THERE ARE NONE
IN OUR QUEUE OKAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP
AND ASSISTANCE TODAY MISTER
MODERATOR WE APPRECIATE IT LET
ME COME BACK TO -- THE COMMITTEE
AND SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OKAY I
HAVE A MOTION ON BOTH OF THOSE
ARE FROM SENATOR GROWTH -- LET
ME ASK YOU MADAM SECRETARY AND
SERGEANTS WE MIGHT GET OUR TWO
MEMBERS HERE I KNOW THAT --
THE VICE CHAIR JUST LEFT BUT
IF WE CAN GRAB HER QUICKLY WE
CAN GET HER BACK TO VOTE --
LET ME ASK YOU TO CALL THE ROLL
GROWTH HI
HI SORRY HI WE PROVIDE
HERTZBERG KAMLAGER
HI KAMLAGER HI BATES
ATKINS HI A CONCISE
OKAY -- THANK YOU
MADAM SECRETARY GO
AHEAD AND OPEN THE
ROLE FOR THE VICE CHAIR
BATES HI BATES I
THANK YOU THE ROLE FOR ONE
THING OKAY LET ME GO AHEAD AND
OPEN THE ROLE -- IF YOU'LL HANG
WITH US FOR A SECOND YOU'VE
BEEN HERE SO LONG ALREADY
I HOPEFULLY ALL THOSE POSITIVE
COMMENTS ABOUT YOU FROM THE
PUBLIC AND MEMBERS WILL KEEP
YOU ROOTED FOR A MINUTE OR TWO
I'M OPENING THE ROLE ON ONE
B. THAT IS FOR MISTRAL YEAH
HENDERSON DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT
OF PESTICIDE REGULATION GROWTH
GROVE NOT VOTING THREE ZERO
-- THREE ZERO -- WHAT WE NEED
TO KEEP THAT OPEN FOR NOW
OKAY SO THAT IS OUT THANK YOU
-- WE ARE
WAITING ON -- SENATOR HERTZBERG
TO COME BACK AND VOTE --
YES THE ROLE OF TO THEM
-- YES DID WE
ACTUALLY I DIDN'T VOTE
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON HI
OKAY MADAM SECRETARY
LET ME GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE
ROLE ON ITEMS TO M. AND THAT
IS FOR MEMBER OF THE STATE PARK
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
BATES EIGHT FIVE FIVE ZERO
FIVE TWO ZERO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH -- BEFORE
WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION
WHICH MEANS WE EXCUSE MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC IT WOULD BE GOOD
FOR A SENATOR HERTZBERG TO BE
HERE TO VOTE --
IS IT OKAY TO HELP
WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION
-- IF
YES
I HAVE A FEELING YOU'RE
BEING CONFIRMED -- AND
SO -- LET ME JUST ADD MY
CONGRATULATIONS AND -- YOU
ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH VOTES FOR
MOVING YOU ON TO THE FULL SENATE
FOR CONFIRMATION SO YOU ARE
WELCOME TO WITH OUR APPRECIATION
TO LEAVE AND IF SENATOR
HERTZBERG DOES NOT VOTE FOR YOU
WILL BE SURE AND LET YOU KNOW
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK
YOU THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH
MADAM SECRETARY LET
ME -- CALL THE ROLL
ON ITEM ONE
CMT C. N. D. OPEN THE ROLE
HERTZBERG FIVE HERTZBERG HI
FIVE ZERO FIVE TWO ZERO IS THERE
ANY OTHER ITEM I NEED TO OPEN
THE ROLE ON FOR SENATOR PER
SENATOR OKAY
-- WE THANK YOU I THINK I
THINK GOOD NEWS IS YOU GOT THE
SENATORS VOTE -- SO WE WILL
MOVE THESE CONFIRMATIONS ON
TO THE FULL SENATE WE WILL
-- YES WE HAVE A VERY QUICK
EXECUTIVE SESSION SO LET ME --
YES AND I'M GOING TO
OKAY THIS CONCLUDES
TODAY'S PUBLIC PORTION OF THE
AGENDA I WANT TO THANK ALL THE
INDIVIDUALS WHO PARTICIPATED
IN PUBLIC TESTIMONY TODAY IF
YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO TESTIFY
PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS
OR SUGGESTIONS IN WRITING
TO THE RULES COMMITTEE VISIT
OUR WEBSITE FOR INSTRUCTIONS
YOUR COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS
ARE IMPORTANT TO US WE WANT
TO INCLUDE THAT TESTIMONY
IN OUR OFFICIAL RECORDS SO
THANK YOU EVERYONE WITHOUT THE
SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES WILL
MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION