ALL RIGHT. THE SENATE COMMITTEE
ON JUDICIARY WILL COME TO ORDER
GOOD MORNING AS WE CONTINUE TO
TAKE SOME PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE
ONGOING COVID 19 RISK. THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
PUBLIC TO OUR HEARINGS AND HAS
PROVIDED ACCESS TO BOTH IN
PERSON AND TELECONFERENCE
PARTICIPATION FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT. FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING
TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PARTICIPANT TOLL FREE NUMBER AND
ACCESS CODE IS POSTED OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE IT WILL BE
DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN. I WILL
ANNOUNCE IT NOW, TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 8772. AND
THE ACCESS CODE IS 506910. FOR
DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW THE
TELECONFERENCE SYSTEM WORKS.
PLEASE REFER TO THE SENATE. UM
AND JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WEBSITES
ALL MAINTAIN DECORUM DURING THE
HEARING AS HIS CUSTOMER AND ANY
INDIVIDUAL WHO IS DISRUPTIVE MAY
BE REMOVED FROM THE REMOTE
MEETING SERVICE OR HAVE THEIR
CONNECTION MUTED. WE ARE HOLDING
OUR COMMITTEE HEARINGS TODAY IN
THE O STREET BUILDING, ALSO
KNOWN AS SWING SPACE. I WILL ASK
ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO
COME TO ROOM 2100 SO WE CAN
ESTABLISH A CORMAN BEGIN OUR
HEARING. UM BEFORE WE BEGIN
TODAY. LET ME ANNOUNCE THE BILLS
THAT ARE ON CONSENT. AND THEN
SHOULD WE NOT HAVE A QUORUM?
WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE AND JUST FOR
PURPOSES, HOUSEKEEPING PURPOSES.
UM IT'S A BIT UNUSUAL TODAY. THE
FIRST MATTER WE'RE GOING TO TAKE
UP IS A B 2406 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AGUIAR-CURRY.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A B
2559. BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WARD
AND I SEE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GRAYSON HERE. SO IF HE IS HERE
AT THAT POINT, THEN WE WILL WILL
MOVE TO HIM. ALL RIGHT? SO THE
BILLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON
CONSENT. UM LET ME LET ME FIRST
ANNOUNCED THE BILLS THAT HAVE
BEEN PULLED FROM TODAY'S AGENDA.
ITEM NUMBER 11 A B 17 80 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CHEN AND FILE
THEM NUMBER 29 A B 21 0 TO BUY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JOINT JONES
SAWYER. CONSENT. COUNTER ITEMS
ARE AS FOLLOWS. FILM NUMBER 13 A
B 1714 BY SOMEBODY MEMBER COOPER
FILE. I'M 15 A B 343 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FONG VIOLIN
NUMBER 16 TO 189 BY SEVEN MEMBER
FRIEDMAN WITH AMENDMENTS FILING
NUMBER 24 A B 21 70 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRAYSON WITH
AMENDMENTS. PILE NUMBER 25 24 33
BY SEVEN MEMBER GRAYSON FILE ON
NUMBER 26. MAYBE 21 35 BY SO
MANY MEMBER IRWIN FOUND 27.
MAYBE 21 90 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
IRWIN. PILOT I'M 31 A B 1981 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EARLY FILING.
36 A B 28 45 BY SOME REMEMBER
PATERSON FILE NUMBER 38 A B 24
29 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S QUIRK.
AND FINALLY, FINALLY I'M NUMBER
39 A B 18 62 BY SOME REMEMBER
RAMOS ALRIGHT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A
MOTION ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
AS SOON AS WE HAVE A QUORUM, I
SEE THAT WE HAVE UM, THANK YOU.
REMEMBER EXCUSE ME, CYLINDER
RUSSELL. UM YES. ALRIGHT SO
LET'S BEGIN. UM IF SOME REMEMBER
AGUIAR-CURRY THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROCEEDING AS
A SUBCOMMITTEE. SO. A B 24 06.
OKAY? GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR AND
COLLEAGUES FIRST AND FORE MOST
LIKE TO THANK YOU THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS
BILL, I WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENT. A B 24 066
TO PROTECT CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES
FROM BEING CHARGED EXCESSIVE AND
UNFAIR FEES, ALSO KNOWN AS THE
ATTENTION TO EMERGE BY
INTERMODAL MARINE EQUIPMENT
PROVIDERS FOR REASONS OUTSIDE
THE CONTROL OF THE BUSINESS. BY
CLARIFYING IN MODERNIZING THE
PROTECTION SET BY EIGHT SB 45.
SP 45 CHAPTERS IN 2000 AND FIVE
PROHIBITED LEVYING OF THESE FEES
AGAINST TRUCKERS WHEN THE
DELAYED PICK UP OR RETURN OF A
CONTAINER IS NOT WITHIN THE
CONTROL OF THE CALIFORNIA
BUSINESSES. HOWEVER THE
OPERATING ENVIRONMENT HAS
EVOLVED SINCE THIS LAW WAS
ADOPTED AND IT NEEDS TO BE
MODERNIZED. TODAY AN APPOINTMENT
IS REQUIRED TO ACCESS MARINE
TERMINALS, WHICH WAS NOT THE
CASE IN 2000 AND FIVE EQUIPMENT
PROVIDERS AND COLLABORATION WITH
THE MARINE TERMINALS HAVE BEGUN
IMPOSING RESTRICTIONS ON THESE
APPOINTMENTS BY LIMITING THE
RETURN OF EMPTY CONTAINERS FROM
SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT PROVIDERS.
CONTROLLING WHICH LOADED
CONTAINERS CAN BE PULLED OUT OR
ENTIRELY LACKING OUT EMPTY
CONTAINERS FROM TERMINAL
FACILITIES. WHEN MARINE
TERMINALS ARE OVERLY CONGESTED
EQUIPMENT PROVIDERS OFTEN FAILED
TO ARRANGE FOR AN ALTERNATIVE
RETURN LOCATION RESULTING IN
CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES HAVING TO
HOLD THESE EMPTY CONTAINERS AT
THEIR FACILITIES, WHICH THEN
RESULTS IN THE ACCRUAL OF LATE
CHARGES. THIS PRACTICE HAS
GREATLY IMPACTED AGRICULTURAL
EXPORTERS, WHO HAVE BEEN CHARGED
EXCESSIVE LATE FEES DUE TO
SHIPPING VESSELS BYPASSING
EXPORT CALLS IN OAKLAND. LEAVING
EXPORTERS STUCK WITH LOADED
CONTAINERS OCCURRING DETENTION
CHARGES FOR SHIPS THAT ARE
CANCELED OR DELAYED. AS A
RESULT, AGRICULTURAL EXPORTERS
ARE LOSING CUSTOMERS AROUND THE
GLOBE. IN SHORT, ABUSIVE IN
SHORT UM, LAST PROPOSAL, UH,
ENSURED, UM TÌM EXCUSE ME HERE.
IN SHORT, ABUSIVE DETENTION AND
EMERGED PRACTICE IS WORSE THAN
THE SUPPLY CHAIN CRISIS BY
MONETIZING DELAYS TO THE BENEFIT
OF EQUIPMENT PROVIDERS AT THE
COST OF CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES
AND CONSUMERS. AMENDMENTS TAKEN
IN ASSEMBLY TRANSPORTATION AND
IN TODAY'S COMMITTEE ENSURE THAT
THE PROVISION OF A B 24 06 WILL
CONFORM WITH THE FUTURE FEDERAL
REGULATION IN THIS AREA,
AVOIDING CONFLICT PREEMPTION.
I'D LIKE TO ALSO MAKE IT CLEAR
TO THE COMMITTEE. THERE WILL BE,
UM, WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH THE
OPPONENTS MULTIPLE TIMES, AND I
AM COMMITTING TO YOU THAT WE
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO ADDRESS
AS MANY CONCERNS AS POSSIBLE AND
KEEPING VERY CLOSE CONTACT WITH
YOUR COMMITTEE ON ANY POTENTIAL
CHANGES. HAVE MADE TO TESTIFY
TODAY IS CHRIS SHEMONA ON BEHALF
AND ON BEHALF OF ONE OF THE CO
SPONSORS OF CALIFORNIA TRUCKING
ASSOCIATION AND LOUIS BROWN, ON
BEHALF OF ROGER ISOM IN THE
WESTERN AGRICULTURAL PROCESSORS
ASSOCIATION AND THE CALIFORNIA
COTTON GROWERS. AND GENEROUS
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR SHIMODA. JUST FOR THOSE
WHO ARE LISTENING ARE PRESENT
THAT THE GROUND RULES FOR
TODAY'S HEARING EACH SIDE THE
PROPONENTS AND THE OPPONENTS
WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO BE
DIVIDED BETWEEN TWO WITNESSES
TWO MINUTES EACH. THEN WE'LL GO
TO WITNESSES AND SUPPORT THAT
ARE HERE IN THE COMMITTEE
HEARING ROOM AND THEN, UH,
WITNESSES ON THE PHONE AND
SUPPORT AND THEN WE'LL DO THE
SAME WITH THE OPPOSITION. TWO
MINUTES TWO WITNESSES. SO FOR A
TOTAL OF FOUR MINUTES, MR
SHIMODA GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
CHAIR HAMBURG AND MEMBERS CHRIS
MOTO OF THE CALIFORNIA TRUCKING
ASSOCIATION SPONSORS OF MAYBE 24
06, WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY 65 OF
THE NATION'S LEADING SUPPLY
CHAIN ORGANIZATIONS. AS STATED
BY THE AUTHOR 21ST. SIX UPDATES
EXISTING CALIFORNIA LAW TO
BETTER PROTECT CALIFORNIA
TRUCKERS, IMPORTERS AND
EXPORTERS FROM UNFAIR FEES
CHARGED BY OCEAN CARRIERS. THESE
FEES ARE KNOWN AS DETENTION AND
EMERGE, WHICH PENALIZED THE LATE
PICK UP OR RETURN OF SHIPPING
CONTAINERS. HOWEVER TRUCKERS,
IMPORTERS AND EXPORTERS ARE
OFTEN BUILD, EVEN WHEN THEY ARE
UNABLE TO ACCESS MARINE
TERMINALS. THE SITUATION'S OUT
OF THEIR CONTROL. THESE UNFAIR
FEES INCREASED COSTS FOR
CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS IN HARM,
TRADE DEPENDENT CALIFORNIA
BUSINESSES, WHICH ACCOUNT FOR A
THIRD OF THE STATE'S ECONOMY AND
JOBS. ACCORDING TO WHITE HOUSE
FACT SHEET ON THE SHIPPING
INDUSTRY. OCEAN CARRIERS BUILD
$2.2 BILLION IN DETENTION AND
EMERGE OVER A THREE MONTH PERIOD
LAST YEAR IN INDUSTRY, WHERE
RESEARCH HAS FOUND THAT THESE
FEES ARE 2 TO 10 TIMES HIGHER AT
CALIFORNIA PORTS THAN OTHER
MAJOR PORTS WORLDWIDE.
CALIFORNIA WITH THE ADOPTION OF
SP 45, WHICH THIS BILL MEN'S IN
2000 AND FIVE LED THE NATIONAL
CONVERSATION ON DETENTION AND
DEMERGER FORM IS THIS COMMITTEE
IS FAMILIAR. THE PRESIDENT DID
JUST SIGN THE OCEAN SHIPPING
REFORM ACT. THIS PAST WEEK,
WHICH WILL TRIGGER A RULEMAKING
PROCESS THAT THE FEDERAL
MARITIME COMMISSION IN
AMENDMENTS TAKEN ON THIS BILL,
WHEN WILL ENSURE THAT STATE AND
FEDERAL EFFORTS TO REFORM
DETENTION AND EMERGE PRACTICES
ARE ALIGNED? CALIFORNIA CAN AND
SHOULD CONTINUE TO LEAD GIVEN
OUR UNIQUE EXPOSURE TO THESE
FEES AS WE ARE THE HOME OF THE
NICHES, LARGEST EXPORT ECONOMY
AND 40% OF ALL CONTAINERIZED
TRADE. WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR HER LEADERSHIP
AND RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR
BROWN. MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE LOUIS BROWN TODAY
ON BEHALF OF WESTERN
AGRICULTURAL PROCESSORS
ASSOCIATION IN THE CALIFORNIA
COTTON GROWERS AND GENEROUS
ASSOCIATION. WE EXPORT 100% OF
THE COTTON GROWN, UM IN
CALIFORNIA. WE EXPORT 60 TO 70%
OF THE NUTS GROWN IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA. AND SO IT'S
INSULT ON TOP OF INJURY WHEN WE
FACE THE SUPPLY SHORTAGES OF
CARGO CONTAINERS AND OTHERS THAT
WE'VE SEEN IN OUR PORTS THAN TO
HAVE FEES ADDED ONTO THEM. IN
SITUATIONS WHERE, FRANKLY,
WASN'T OR FAULT. WE HAVE NOW
SEEN OVER THE YEARS WHERE THERE
ARE VERY TIGHT APPOINTMENT
WINDOWS FOR FARMERS AND
PROCESSORS AND AGRICULTURAL
CORPORATIONS TO MAKE AND WHEN
THOSE APPOINTMENT WINDOWS ARE
CHANGED. AT THE LAST MINUTE OR
WITH VERY LITTLE NOTICE WHERE IT
MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOUTUBE
. MEET THAT CARGO CONTAINER.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE FOR
US TO COMPLY WITH THE AGREEMENTS
THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR
INTERNATIONAL PARTNERS. THOSE
AGREEMENTS THOSE RELATIONSHIPS
HAVE TAKEN DECADES TO DEVELOP
AND CAN BE LOST WITHIN JUST A
SHORT WINDOW OF TIME BECAUSE OF
THE INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION
THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN WE FACE
IN THE AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY.
THERE ARE COUNTRIES ALL ACROSS
THE WORLD THAT ARE GROWING
COTTON THAT ARE GROWING NUTS
THAT SIMPLY WANT TO TAKE THE
MARKET SHARE THAT WE HAVE
CREATED. AND SO WHILE WE
STRUGGLE WITH THAT HOW WE FACE
THESE ADDITIONAL FINES AND FEES
PUT ON TO US BY THE MERCHANT
SHIPPERS. AND SO WE WANT TO
EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO THE
AUTHOR FOR HER AGGRESSIVENESS IN
MOVING THIS ISSUE FORWARD, WE DO
THINK IT COMPLIMENTS ON WHAT THE
PRESIDENT HAS SIGNED AND WHAT
WHAT THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH AND PUTS US MORE ON AN
EVIL, EVEN PLAYING FIELD IN
THESE CERTAIN SITUATIONS. WHEN
AGAIN IT'S NOT OUR FAULT THAT
WE'VE MISSED A WINDOW OF
OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE CARGO
CONTAINERS THROUGH REPORT. WE
ASKED FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU
OTHERS IN SUPPORT HERE IN THE
COMMITTEE HEARING ROOM IF YOU
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE AND
PROVIDE YOUR NAME, YOUR
AFFILIATION AND YOUR POSITION
MORNING, MR CHAIR MEMBERS,
CARLOS GUTERRES ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA FRESH FOOD
ASSOCIATION. CALIFORNIA CITRUS
MUTUAL AND THE CALIFORNIA RIGHTS
COMMISSION IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
OTHERS HERE IN THE COMMITTEE
HEARING ROOM, SEEING NONE ON THE
PHONE MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
QUEUE UP THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A B
24 06. CERTAINLY THANK YOU. AND
IF YOU LIKE THIS OR SUPPORT,
PLEASE PRESS 10. IT'S JUST KIND
OF GET 10. GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT
HERE. FLYING 55 YEAR OPEN. GOOD
MORNING CHAIRMAN MEMBERS, AS IS
KIRK BLACKBURN, CALLING ON
BEHALF OF THE WESTERN STATES
TRUCKING ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 9
26, YOU'RE OPEN. HI THIS IS RYAN
ELAINE, WITH THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND GIVE ME JUST. A MOMENT HERE.
LINE 60. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
MATTHEW ALLEN WITH WESTERN
GROWERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. AND GIVE ME A MOMENT LINE
49. HELLO. THIS IS MARK PERSONAL
PRESIDENT OF THE FOREIGN TRADE
ASSOCIATION. CALL HIM SUPPORT OF
A B 24. THANK YOU. AND THERE'S
NONE FURTHER IN Q AT THE TIME.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S NOW TURN THE
OPPOSITION OPPOSITION TO A B 24
06. GO AHEAD, SIR. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, MIKE JACOB WITH
THE PACIFIC MERCHANT SHIPPING
ASSOCIATION AND OPPOSITION, MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS AND EXTEND THE
THANK YOU AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE
AUTHOR. FOR MEETING WITH US AND
CONTINUING TO MEET WITH US AND
FURTHER COMMITMENT TO MEET WITH
US AS THIS BILL MOVES FORWARD AS
YOU HEARD THE CONGRESS HAS
RECENTLY TAKEN CONFERENCE OF
ACTION TO UPDATE THE OCEAN
SHIPPING REFORM ACT THAT WAS
SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT FIVE
DAYS AGO LAST THURSDAY, AND THAT
WILL COMPREHENSIVELY CHANGED THE
NATURE OF HOW OUR INDUSTRY IS
REGULATED AND HOW IT DEALS WITH
THESE ISSUES. THE QUESTION ISN'T
WHETHER OR NOT CONTRACTS SHOULD
INCLUDE DETENTION TO MERGE. THEY
SHOULD, AND THEY WILL. THE REAL
ISSUE IS HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH
CONFLICTS THAT ARISE WHEN THE
APPLICATION OF THOSE TERMS WHICH
ARE COMMERCIALLY NEGOTIATED AND
SERVE A REAL PURPOSE? END UP
BEING UNREASONABLE OR THEY END
UP IN SITUATIONS LIKE YOU'VE
HEARD WHERE FOLKS HAVE CARGO OR
THEY HAVE CONTAINERS, BUT
THEY'RE HELD OUT AND THEY CAN'T
BE RETURNED REASONABLY FOR
REASONS THAT ARE BEYOND THEIR
CONTROL. SOMETIMES BEYOND OUR
CONTROL, WE CAN'T CHANGE THE
LAWS OF PHYSICS DURING THE
RECENT CRISIS. WE ONLY HAVE SO
MUCH SPACE AND TERMINALS. WE'VE
HAD TO TURN AWAY CONTAINERS THAT
IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. AND HAS
RESULTED IN SITUATIONS WHERE
THERE'S COMMERCIAL DAMAGE TO
FOLKS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE
THOSE PROCESSES NEED TO BE
WORKED OUT. THEY NEED TO BE
WORKED AT THE STATE LEVEL, BUT
THEY ALSO NEED TO BE WORKED OUT
IN THE CONTEXT OF FEDERAL
LEGISLATION MOVING FORWARD. SO
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THOSE
CONVERSATIONS WITH NO MOVES
FORWARD. AND WE'LL KEEP IN TOUCH
WITH THE COMMITTEE. WE
APPRECIATE THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS
WRITTEN. IT WAS VERY, VERY
THOROUGH AND TOUCHED ON MANY OF
OUR ISSUES. SO THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM, SEEING NONE. UM, ON THE
PHONE. THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO A
B 20. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD,
MODERATOR. PLEASE PRESS 10 TO
OPPOSE. I APOLOGIZE. IN
CURRENTLY NOT IN. Q ALRIGHT,
LET'S BRING IT BACK HERE TO THE
COMMITTEE AND, UH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AGUIAR-CURRY
THIS THIS IS A CHALLENGING ISSUE
VERY COMPLEX, AND IT'S BECOME
EVEN MORE COMPLEX WITH THE
PASSAGE OF THE OCEAN SHIPPING
REFORM ACT HERE IN THE LAST 10
DAYS. AND I BELIEVE THAT. YOU
HAVE COMMITTED BASICALLY TO HOLD
THIS BILL ON THE FLOOR TO WORK
OUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT
ARE BEFORE US. I JUST WANT TO
CONFIRM THAT COMMITMENT. WE WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE BILL,
AND I THINK THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY
IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. UM IF
CHRIS WANTS TO MAKE ANY COMMENT
OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND HOW WE ARE
WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE
WE CAN GET THIS BILL OFF THE
FLOOR. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT
BILL. CAN'T WAIT. WE HAVE
EXPORTERS THAT ARE TRYING TO GET
THEIR PRODUCT OUT. AND I BELIEVE
CHRIS MENTIONED THAT IT WAS $2.2
BILLION IN FEES THAT THESE
PEOPLE HAVE HAD TO ENDURE.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS. SO. EVERY
COMMENT FOR THAT FOR ME. YEAH
JUST JUST TO THE POINT ABOUT
OCEAN SHIPPING REFORM ACT, SO
THE PRESIDENT SIGNED THE SENATE
VERSION OF THE OCEAN SHIPPING
REFORM ACT. THERE WERE TWO
VERSIONS WE DID ACTUALLY WORK.
WITH REPRESENTATIVE GARAMENDI,
THE CO AUTHOR OF THE HOUSE
VERSION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
QUÊ BILLS WERE ALIGNED. WHAT
WILL HAPPEN AT THIS POINT IS
THAT THE FEDERAL MARITIME
COMMISSION WILL PROCEED WITH THE
RULEMAKING. FEDERAL RULEMAKING
SOMETIMES CAN TAKE NINE MONTHS
TO OVER A YEAR. THE AMENDMENTS
TAKEN IN ASSEMBLY
TRANSPORTATION, AS WELL AS THE
CHANGE MADE AND ACCEPTED BY THE
SENATE JUDICIARY CONSULTANT WILL
ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO EITHER
, UH, SHOULD THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT EXPRESSLY PREEMPT THE
STATE FROM TAKING ACTION IN THIS
AREA. THE PROVISIONS OF THE BILL
THAT ARE EXPRESSLY PREEMPTED
WILL BE SUBSUMED BY THE FEDERAL
REGULATION IN THE AREA OF
CONFLICT. PREEMPTION SHOULD
AGAIN THERE BE CONFLICT,
PREEMPTION FOUND OR FIELD
PREEMPTION FOUND BY A COURT OF
LAW. SEVERABILITY CLAUSE ADDED
BY THE SENATE JUDICIARY
CONSULTANT WILL ENSURE THAT THE
NON PREEMPTED AREAS OF THE BILL
WILL WILL CARRY ON ALREADY.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT DURING THE MONTH OF
JULY WHILE WE'RE IN RECESS,
YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK
ON THIS MATTER AND NOT BRING IT
TO THE FLOOR UNTIL AUGUST. IS
THAT RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY GOING TO
WORK REALLY HARD ON GETTING THIS
ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM
OTHER QUESTIONS. YES SENATOR
LAIRD. VERY BRIEF COMMENT. I
JUST WANT TO REINFORCE WHAT THE
CHAIR SAID, BECAUSE SOMETIMES
WHAT HAPPENS IS. IS TO CONCERN
US ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE
CONCERN IS MAKING SURE THE
PROCESSES TOGETHER AND SOMETIMES
IN TRYING TO RESOLVE THAT.
EVERYONE REMAKES THE ARGUMENT
ABOUT THE NEED. I DON'T THAT IS
A POWERFUL ARGUMENT THAT I DON'T
THINK ANYBODY DISAGREES WITH,
BUT IT HAS TO WORK AND IT HAS TO
MESH AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE
CHAIR IS PUSHING FOR, AND I
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMITMENT. TO CONTINUE TO WORK
TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT
DOESN'T HAPPEN BEFORE IT COMES
TO THE FLOOR AS I HAVE IN MY
LITTLE ROLE IN OUR OFFICE.
WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? HOW DO YOU
FIX IT? BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT
PART IS HOW DO YOU IMPLEMENT IT,
RIGHT? WHO WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WHATEVER WE HAVE DECIDED TO
DO AND THAT THIS BILL IS A ABLE
TO BE IMPLEMENTED. ARE YOU?
THANK YOU. UM WE ARE
SUBCOMMITTEE, SO I EXPECT THAT
THERE'LL BE A MOTION ONCE WE
FORM A QUORUM. SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AGUIAR-CURRY. AND I'M GOING
TO FOR THOSE OF YOU LISTENING.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEPART TO
PRESENT A BILL TO TURN OVER THE
GAVELED TO SENATOR BORGES. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UM OH,
I'M SORRY. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I
DIDN'T ALLOW YOU TO CLOSE. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR MY VOTE. BEAUTIFUL
CLOTHES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
OKAY SO I'M GOING TO TURN OVER
THE GAVEL TO SENATOR BORDERS
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO, UM A B 25
59. THEN SOMEBODY MEMBER GRAYSON
HAS BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY HERE.
SO I'LL BE BACK. THANK YOU.
CORRECT. WE'RE LEARNING. GRAYSON
GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. UM,
FORGIVE ME AS I JUST PARACHUTE
IN TO GET BACK ON TRACK. SO WE
ARE MOVING INTO A B 25 59
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AWARD. UM
ELECTORATE IS YOURS. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. LET ME START BY
ACCEPTING THE CHAIRS SUGGESTED
AMENDMENTS, AND I REALLY WANT TO
THANK THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
THEIR THOUGHTFUL WORK ON THIS
BILL. AS YOU KNOW, RENTAL
HOUSING APPLICATION FEES ARE
USED BY LANDLORDS TO PURCHASE
TENANT SCREENING REPORTS FROM
THIRD PARTY COMPANIES USED TO
EVALUATE SELECT TENANTS FOR THE
RENTAL PROPERTIES. THESE REPORTS
CAN COST UP TO $53.33. PER
REPORT PER APPLICATION AND
TODAY'S MARKET WHEN INDIVIDUALS
ARE HAVING TO HAVE SOMETIMES
APPLY FOR DOZENS OF UNITS THAT
CAN ADD UP TO HUNDREDS OF
DOLLARS OF COST BURDEN IN ORDER
TO SUCCESSFULLY BE ABLE TO RENT
A UNIT. TO ADDRESS THIS. WE'RE
FOLLOWING THE LEAD OF MARYLAND
AND WASHINGTON THAT RECENTLY
ENACTED LEGISLATION TO CREATE
REUSABLE SCREENING REPORTS. SO
MAYBE 2559 SETS A STATE STANDARD
FOR REUSABLE SCREENING REPORTS
TO BE USED DURING THE
APPLICATION PROCESS. IF THE
LANDLORD ELECTS TO ACCEPT SUCH
REPORTS BY REUSED BY USING A
REUSABLE SCREENING REPORT.
RENTERS ONLY HAVE TO PAY A ONE
TIME FOR A REPORT THAT WOULD BE
GOOD FOR 30 DAYS FOR MULTIPLE
APPLICATIONS APPLICATION
APPLICATIONS IF NECESSARY,
THEREBY SAVING THOSE RENTERS
MANY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS IN THE
POTENTIAL COSTS FOR THEM TO HAVE
AN EXPEDITION SEE REVIEWED
VERIFIED APPLICANT INFORMATION.
THERE IS NO TESTIMONY FOR THIS
BILL. IT'S PRETTY MUCH PRETTY
STRAIGHTFORWARD ON HIS FACE, BUT
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND
I VOTE FOR THIS BILL. ALRIGHT AS
THE AUTHOR INDICATED. WE DO NOT
HAVE ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OF A B 25 59 LET'S MOVE
ON OVER. TO ROOM 2100 FOLKS HERE
IN THIS ROOM. AH ANY FOLKS
WISHING TO COMMENT IN FAVOR OF
25 59? DON'T GET UP AT ONCE.
EVERYONE ALRIGHT, SO WE WILL NOW
MOVE ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE MODERATOR. DO WE HAVE
ANY FOLKS IN THE QUEUE IN
SUPPORT OF 25? 59 IF SO, PLEASE
IDENTIFY HOW MANY THEY MAY BE.
GO AHEAD AND I'LL REMIND
EVERYBODY OF THIS 10 TÌM.
CURRENTLY NONE IN CUBE, OKAY?
ALL RIGHT, UM. WE DO NOT HAVE
ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION IS THAT CORRECT
KNOWLEDGE? KNOWLEDGE ALRIGHT,
ANY FOLKS HERE IN THE ROOM
SEEKING TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL? PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
SEEING NONE MODERATE. DO YOU
HAVE ANY FOLKS IN THE QUEUE
WISHING TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION?
AND IF SO, PLEASE IDENTIFY HOW
MANY THERE ARE LIMITING. TO
THEIR NAME THEIR AFFILIATION IN
THEIR POSITION. CERTAINLY THANK
YOU. AND AGAIN, IT'S 10 AT THIS
TIME. I'M CURRENTLY NOT IN CUBA.
OKAY WELL, THIS IS MOVING ALONG
JUST SWIMMINGLY, ISN'T IT?
ALRIGHT MOVING IT TO THE DISK.
THUNDER LAIRD, SO MUCH FOR
SWIMMINGLY. I'M JUST KIDDING. UM
I DIDN'T CATCH IT. DID YOU AGREE
TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS? I DO. OKAY AND THEN
IT SEEMS THAT ONCE THE
AMENDMENTS ARE ACCEPTED, THERE'S
STILL BEEN A PUSHBACK FROM
REPRESENTATIVES OF INCARCERATED
PEOPLE. THAT'S SEVEN YEARS OF
CRIMINAL HISTORY WAR ALMOST
PREORDAINED. THAT IT PRESENTS
THIS IN THE REPORTS AND THAT
PEOPLE WILL NOT GET HOUSING, AND
IN FACT, IT MIGHT EVEN CONFLICT
WITH UH, A FAIR HOUSING ISSUE OR
LAW. THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE
AMENDMENTS ADDRESS THAT NOW, SO
THANKS FOR THE CHAIRS, ABILITY
TO MOVE THIS FORWARD FOR ONE
WEEK, WE WORKED ON THAT ISSUE.
IT IS REMOVED FROM THE CURRENT
SET OF AMENDMENTS, WHICH IS IN
THE SENATE ANALYSIS AND THAT
THAT IS NOT THE NEED TO HAVE A
CRIMINAL HISTORY CHECK IS NO
LONGER INCLUDED IN THIS BILL,
AND WE HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING
THAT FORMER FORMALLY OPPOSED
INDIVIDUALS WILL BE MOVING TO
NEUTRAL. OKAY? TOO BAD THEY
DIDN'T SHOW UP TO DO THAT TODAY.
FOR YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER
THING IS JUST TO CLARIFY BECAUSE
AND LET ME SAY I APPRECIATE
THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING
THAT AMENDMENT. I APPRECIATE
YOU. DEALING WITH THAT ISSUE.
THERE'S THE WHOLE ISSUE. UM THAT
UNDERLINES THIS BILL REGARDLESS.
UM WHICH IS THAT IT'S VOLUNTARY
TO TAKE THE REPORTS. WOULD YOU
JUST SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE. WE
NEED TO INTRODUCE THE CONCEPT.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME
KIND OF STATE STANDARD FOR WHAT
WOULD GO ANY REUSABLE SCREENING
REPORT THAT COULD BE USED FOR
ITS INTENDED MULTIPLE TIMES
WITHIN 30 DAYS. I THINK TAKING
THAT IF THERE WAS A NEXT STEP TO
BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT BEYOND WHAT
REALLY REQUIRE THAT GOOD
NEGOTIATION WITH APARTMENT
OWNERS AND WITH OTHERS THAT ARE
IN IT. THEY WOULD LIKE TO KIND
OF SEE WHERE THIS GOES. I
BELIEVE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A
VERY VALUABLE AND USEFUL
DOCUMENT, SO LET'S START THERE
AND SEE HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO
BUILD UPON THAT. SO IN MANY WAYS
YOU'RE SAYING, LET'S MOVE AHEAD
WITH THIS AND SEE HOW IT WORKS.
AND IF IT TURNS OUT THAT IT
NEEDS FINE TUNING YOUR COMMITTED
TO COME BACK IN THE FUTURE AND
FINE TUNE IT. I WOULD DEFINITELY
LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO
WORK IN THIS SPACE. OKAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE
AMENDMENTS REALLY APPRECIATE YOU
BEING RESPONSIVE FOR LOOK
FORWARD TO MOVING THE BILL ALONG
IF IN OUR LIFETIME WE HAVE A
QUORUM. MR BLOOM. THANK YOU.
SENATOR LAIRD. SENATOR ROZ. OH
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM THANK
YOU TO THE AUTHOR. YOU KNOW,
BEFORE I GOT BRIEFED ON THIS
BILL MIGHT ONE OF MY STAFF HAD
JUST BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS
EXPERIENCE. OF HAVING TO PAY $50
HERE, $50. THEY'RE NOT JUST HER,
BUT HER ROOMMATE. IN ADDITION,
EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE APPLYING
FOR THE SAME, UM THE SAME
APARTMENT. UM, SO THEN YOUR BILL
COMES LENGTHEN. THIS IS REALLY
GREAT. THERE'S ONE, UM, ISSUE IF
YOU COULD EXPLAIN IS THE
EVICTION HISTORY. THERE'S SOME
CONNECTION TO LOCAL LAWS. OR
MAYBE I'M JUST CONFUSING IT, UM,
THE EVICTION HISTORY REQUIREMENT
THAT WE ILL STILL BE INCLUDED.
THAT'S RIGHT, SO THAT IS PRETTY
STANDARD ON AN EXISTING ONE TIME
RENTAL SCREENING APPLICATION
THAT THERE IS A HISTORY FOR A
CERTAIN PERIOD OF ANY INFECTION
, INFECTION HISTORY THAT IS
THERE. WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO
MIRROR THAT AS WELL FOR REUSABLE
SCREENING REPORTS FOR
CONSISTENCY. IS THERE SOME
CONNECTION? I'M SORRY. IS THERE
SOME CONNECTION TO THE LENGTH OF
TIME AS FAR AS THE EVICTION
HISTORY ITSELF? IS THERE A
CONNECTION TO LOCAL LOCAL LAWS?
I THINK THAT THAT HAD
INTERCEPTED CONVERSATION AROUND
CRIMINAL HISTORY, FOR WHICH SOME
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ON THE LOOK
BACK PERIOD. WE'RE HAVING
DIFFERENT STANDARDS THAN WHAT
THE STATE STANDARD WAS FOR
EVICTION HISTORY. IT MIGHT BE
SEVEN YEARS AS THE STANDARD AND
WE MIGHT BE SILENT ON THAT SO I
CAN GET BACK TO YOUR OFFICE ON
THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU. DOES THAT? CONCLUDE
YOUR COMMENTS? SENATOR DURAZO,
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE UNFORTUNATELY
, NOT HAVING ACHIEVED A QUORUM.
BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE
COMMITTEE'S I VOTE ALRIGHT? WE
WILL BRING THIS MATTER BACK WHEN
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU,
SAM. REMEMBER WARD NOW MOVING ON
TO FILE ITEM NUMBER 23. AS SOON
AS I SAW HIM PATIENTLY WAITING.
I MOVED HIM IMMEDIATELY AT THE Q
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRAYSON. YEAH.
WELCOME. UM. SO THIS IS A B 19?
OH, FOUR. THE ELECTORATE IS
YOURS. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH
FOR AND MEMBERS. I AM PLEASED TO
PRESENT A SIMILAR BILL 1904,
WHICH WILL PROVIDE CALIFORNIANS
CRUCIAL DISCLOSURES WHEN THEY
RECEIVE TARGETED ADVERTISEMENTS.
FROM FINANCIAL SERVICE COMPANIES
SUCH AS DEBT SETTLEMENT OR
STUDENT LOAN DEBT RELIEF
SERVICES. THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN
A CONCERN ABOUT THE HARM FROM
THE SEAT FOR PREDATORY MARKETING
PRACTICES, ESPECIALLY IN THE
WORLD OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. AND
YET THERE ARE STILL NO CLEAR
RULES OF THE ROAD FOR COMPANIES
TO FOLLOW NGUYEN, SENDING
TARGETED ADVERTISEMENTS ALLOWING
THEM TO USE UNDERHANDED METHODS.
TO CONFUSE CONSUMERS, IN SOME
CASES, TARGETED ADVERTISEMENTS
IDENTIFYING THE CUSTOMER OR THE
CONSUMER BY NAME WILL LIST DEBTS
. THEY ACTUALLY DO NOT. OH SO
GIVING THEM THE IMPRESSION THAT
IN THE MAILER THAT IT'S ACTUALLY
FROM A CREDITOR. SO THESE TAXES
TACTICS CAN BE ESPECIALLY
ANXIETY INDUCING AND EVEN
HARMFUL FOR FINANCIALLY
VULNERABLE CONSUMERS ALREADY
DEALING WITH SIGNIFICANT
FINANCIAL STRESS. 1904 WILL
ADDRESS THIS BY REQUIRING THREE
BASIC THINGS IN ANY TARGETED
DIRECT ADVERTISEMENT, THE NAME
OF THE COMPANY THEIR CONTACT
INFORMATION. AND A STATEMENT A
STATEMENT AND INFORMS THE
CONSUMER. THEY ARE LOOKING AT AN
ADVERTISEMENT. THIS BILL DOES
NOT APPLY TO ANY TOO MANY OF THE
FORMS OF ADVERTISEMENTS SUCH AS
TELEVISION ADS OR OTHER TYPES OF
MASS ADVERTISEMENT. MAYBE 1904.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT MEASURE THAT
WILL CURB PREDATORY MARKETING
PRACTICES AND GIVE CONSUMERS THE
INFORMATION THEY NEED TO MAKE
INFORMED CHOICES. AND WITH THAT
TO THE CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO
INTRODUCE MY WITNESS DANIC.
CANDLE KAISER. THERE SHE IS,
RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. UM AND
SOME OF THE MEMBER JUST WANT TO
CONFIRM. WERE THERE ANY
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED
TO BE ACCEPTED? NO AMENDMENTS.
AMENDMENTS. ALRIGHT. SO WE HAVE
DANNY CONDO KAISER HERE IN
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING, DANNY
KENDALL KAISER. I'M HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA LOW
INCOME CONSUMER COALITION, PROUD
SUPPORTERS OF THE BILL, WE URGE
YOU TO SUPPORT 19 OH, FOUR,
WHICH WILL STRENGTHEN THE
STANDARDS AROUND DECK DIRECT
MARKETING TECHNIQUES USED BY
CONSUMER FINANCIAL SERVICE
PROVIDERS. LAST YEAR. WE WERE
PROUD TO SPONSOR A B 14 OH FIVE,
WHICH ADDED IMPORTANT
REGULATIONS TO DEBT SETTLEMENT
PROVIDERS. THIS BILL COMPLEMENTS
THAT WORK BY ENSURING THAT DEBT
SETTLEMENT PROVIDERS AS WELL AS
OTHER TYPES OF SERVICE
PROVIDERS. SUCH AS THOSE
OFFERING SO CALLED STUDENT DEBT
RELIEF FOLLOWED BASIC DISCLOSURE
RULES WHEN THEY SEND TARGETED
ADVERTISEMENTS TO CONSUMERS.
INCREASINGLY WE ARE SEEING THAT
TECHNOLOGY AND BIG DATA ARE
EMPOWERING COMPANIES TO DEVELOP
HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED WAYS TO
TARGET INDIVIDUAL CONSUMERS WITH
MISLEADING AND DECEPTIVE
ADVERTISEMENTS. SOMETIMES THESE
ADVERTISEMENTS DO NOT EVEN LOOK
LIKE ADVERTISEMENTS. THEY LOOK
LIKE MAIL FROM A BANK OR ANOTHER
CREDITOR. AS THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
NOTES. THIS TYPE OF DIRECT
SOLICITATION CAN BE VERY
ALARMING FOR FINANCIALLY
VULNERABLE CONSUMERS WHO ARE
UNDER TREMENDOUS STRESS FROM
DEBT OR DEBT COLLECTORS. THIS
CREATES SIMPLE AND
STRAIGHTFORWARD DISCLOSURES. SO
THAT CONSUMERS ALWAYS KNOW WHEN
SOMETHING IS AN ADVERTISEMENT.
THESE RULES MUST BE EASY FOR
COMPANIES AND MARKETERS
MARKETERS TO COMPLY WITH AND
THEY WILL EMPOWER CONSUMERS TO
HELP PREVENT THEM FROM BEING
TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY BAD
ACTORS. WE URGE YOUR I VOTE.
THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER WITNESSES HERE IN ROOM
2100 IN SUPPORT OF A B 19? OH,
FOUR. SEEING NOW AND MOVING TO
MODERATOR MODERATE. DO WE HAVE
ANY FOLKS ON THE LINE WISHING TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR A B? 19 OH,
FOUR. IF SO, PLEASE IDENTIFY HOW
MANY THEY ARE. LIMITING THEIR
THEMSELVES TO THEIR NAME THEIR
AFFILIATION IN THEIR POSITION.
THANK YOU AND PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME. AGAIN, IT'S 10.
CURRENTLY NONE IN CUTE, OKAY
FOLLOWING THE SAME PROCEDURES.
DO WE HAVE ANY INDIVIDUALS ON
RECORD IN OPPOSITION? I DO NOT
SEE. ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. ALRIGHT MOVING TO
ROOM 2100 ANY FOLKS HERE WISHING
TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO A B 19?
OH, FOUR, PLEASE APPROACH. WHAT
WOULD YOU CALL THAT? THE SCREEN
WITH THE MICROPHONE. SEEING
NONE. MODERATOR MOVING ON TO
FOLKS WISHING TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO 19. OH, FOUR. CAN
YOU LET US KNOW IF THERE ARE
FOLKS AND HOW MANY ARE IN THE
QUEUE? CERTAINLY AGAIN EXPRESS
OPPOSITION AT THIS TIME, PRESS
10. AND CURRENTLY. OKAY WELL,
THIS IS ALSO MOVING ALONG FAIRLY
SWIFTLY. BRING IT BACK TO THE
DAIS. NO COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
UNFORTUNATELY WE STILL DO NOT
HAVE A QUORUM. WE WILL BRING
THIS MATTER BACK AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME. DO YOU WISH TO
OFFER ANY CONCLUDING STATEMENTS
WHEN THE TIME'S APPROPRIATE?
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE?
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. WE
ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM. FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOUR A B 2089 BY
BAUER-KAHAN. WE DO HAVE SOME
AUTHORS HERE. SHE'S HERE, OKAY?
HE IS GONNA SWITCH IT OUT. ALL
RIGHT. WE ARE MOVING ON TO FILE
ITEM NUMBER THREE. A B 23 15
ASSEMBLY MEMBER RAMBLA. DO WE
HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS? ON THIS ON
THIS BILL? NO OKAY, ALRIGHT. THE
LECTERN IS YOURS. THANK YOU, MR
VICE CHAIR, AND SENATORS 23 15
MINIMIZES THE CHANCE AND
INDIVIDUAL IS DEAD, NAMED WHILE
ATTENDING A COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
BY ENSURING THAT CURRENT
STUDENTS, FACULTY AND STAFF CAN
DESIGNATE THEIR AFFIRMED OR
CHOSEN NAME AND PRONOUNS. USE OF
A STUDENT'S ASSIGNED AT BIRTH,
RATHER THAN THEIR CHOSEN OR
AFFIRMED NAME IS TERMED DEAD
NAME. SPECIFICALLY FOR
TRANSGENDER AND NON BINARY
INDIVIDUALS BEING DEAD, NAMED BY
INCORRECT STUDENT RECORDS CAN
LEAD TO UNWANTED OUTING.
BULLYING DISCRIMINATION,
VIOLENCE AND LOSS OF EMPLOYMENT
OPPORTUNITIES. BY REQUIRING THAT
ALL CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE
CAMPUSES TO UPDATE THEIR
INTERNAL SYSTEMS TO ACCOMMODATE
ANY INDIVIDUALS AFFIRMED NAME
OUR PUBLIC SYSTEM. CAN AVOID THE
ACT OF DEAD NAMING I HAVE THE
FOLLOWING WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
OF 23 15 TODAY, EVAN MINTON AND
EBONY HARPER, WHO ARE THE CO
CHAIRS OF THE CALIFORNIA
TRANSGENDER ADVISORY COUNCIL.
ALRIGHT WE HAVE, AS THE AUTHOR
INDICATED EBONY HARPER IN PERSON
AND THEN AND EVAN MITTEN ON THE
PHONE UNLESS YOU'RE AT SEVEN. SO
HE'S HERE. HE'S NOT EBONY. HE'S
ANGRY. GOT IT. OKAY WELL,
WHOEVER WISHES TO START 1ST MAY
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M
EVAN MINTON, UM COACH CARAVELLE
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S CURRENT
GENDER ADVISORY COUNCIL, AND I'M
HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY TO
ADVOCATE AND STRONG SUPPORT OF A
B 13 15 23 15. THANK YOU TO THE
AUTHOR FOR CARRYING THIS
IMPORTANT BILL AND THANK YOU TO
THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE AND
MANY OTHERS, UM FOR BEING TOO
STRONG STALWART ALLIES AT THE
LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY FOR THOSE
WHO DON'T KNOW I CURRENTLY SERVE
AS THE CHAIR OF THE DEMOCRATIC
NATIONAL COMMITTEE'S NEWLY
FORMED TRANSGENDER ADVISORY
COUNCIL, AND I'M ALSO THE
IMMEDIATE PAST NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA CHAIR OF THE
CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S
LGBT Q CAUCUS. IN THESE
POSITIONS, IT'S BEEN MY MISSION
TO TRANSITION BOTH THE STATE AND
NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTIES TO
BECOME MORE TRANS, INCLUSIVE. A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MY WORK
SENATOR AND THE USE OF CHOSEN
NAMES AND PRONOUNS, AND I'M
GRATEFUL THAT WE ARE SEEING SO
MANY OF OUR INSTITUTIONS
RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO CREATE
SAFE AND INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENTS.
FOR EVERYONE BY UPDATING THEIR
POLICIES AND PRACTICES TO
REFLECT AND INCLUDE ALL OF US,
AND IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT
CALIFORNIA'S PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS
DO THE SAME. SURVEYS REVEAL THAT
63% OF STUDENTS WHO IDENTIFY AS
TRANSGENDER OR GENDER
NONCONFORMING DID NOT HAVE THEIR
CHOOSE CHOSEN NAME OR ACCURATE
GENDER REFLECTED IN THEIR
STUDENT RECORDS. AND THE TRUTH
OF THE MATTER IS THAT AS MANY
ADVANCES AS WE'VE MADE THE
SOCIETAL DISCRIMINATION, THE
TRANS COMMUNITY HAS AN
ASTRONOMICAL 41% SUICIDE ATTEMPT
RATE. A STAGGERING RATE OF
TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY MEMBERS
HAVE BEEN FIRED, NOT HIRED OR
DENIED A PROMOTION DUE TO THEIR
TRANSGENDER IDENTITY, AND AS A
RESULT, TRANS PEOPLE ARE MORE
THAN TWICE AS LIKELY TO LIVE IN
EXTREME POVERTY. FURTHER THE
AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION HAS
DECLARED VIOLENCE AGAINST
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE TO BE AN
EPIDEMIC. HOWEVER WE KNOW THAT
THE LESS DISCRIMINATION THAT WE
FACE, THE MORE LIKELY WE ARE TO
SUCCEED, AND I ALWAYS SAY THAT
WE ARE RESILIENT, BUT WE
SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE. COMMUNITY
COLLEGE IS OFTEN WHERE THE
SUCCESS STARTS FOR TRANSGENDER
AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS BILL IS SO
IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE IT CREATES A LEVEL
PLAYING FIELD, WHICH PROMOTES
INCLUSIVENESS SUCCESS. AND
SAFETY FOR A POPULATION THAT ALL
TOO OFTEN NEEDS IT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. UM
PRICE HERE, UM AND US SENATE
SENATORS. MY NAME'S EBONY HARPER
. I AM THE COACH. HERE I AM.
PROFESSIONALLY EVANS OTHER HALF
AT THE CALIFORNIA ADVISORY
COUNCIL TO LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE, UM I AM GOING TO BE
SORT. UH, RECENTLY. YOU HAVE
SEEN OUR THE WAY WE NAVIGATE
LIFE POLITICIZED AND I DON'T
CARE WHAT SIDE OF THE AISLE
YOU'RE ON. AH! THE CALIFORNIA
LEGISLATURE. THEIR SUPPORT OF
TRANS PEOPLE HAS BETTER MY LIFE.
UM I WAS A HOMELESS
TRANSPORTATION KHN. I SPENT
MANY YEARS ON THE STREET. BUT I
WOULD SAY HOLY BECAUSE OF THE
SUPPORT OF OUR LEGISLATURE. AND
THEY'RE UPLIFTMENT OF TRANS
PEOPLE. I HAVE A BETTER LIFE
TODAY AND I AM A PART OF BOARDS
. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
CALIFORNIA TRANSCENDS, I DO
POLICY WORK. AND UM, YOU KNOW,
YEARS AGO, IT WASN'T IT WASN'T
POSSIBLE. AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU
REMEMBER THAT, UM SO I ASK THAT
YOU SUPPORT THIS BILL. I ALSO
WAS A DROP OUT OF COMMUNITY
COLLEGE. BECAUSE I WASN'T
AFFIRMED BECAUSE I WAS BULLIED.
AND UM, I HAD I HAD THE ACCESS
TO GO BACK TO COLLEGE TO THE
COLLEGE THAT WAS TRANSIT FOR ME.
AH AND IT JUST IT MEANS A LOT.
AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL, UM, SENATOR ASSEMBLY.
AND BLESSINGS. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. OR ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE
PUBLIC WISHING TO EXPRESS THEIR
SUPPORT FOR A B 23 15. PLEASE
APPROACH THE SCREEN. AND
IDENTIFIED YOUR NAME,
AFFILIATION AND POSITION. PLEASE
GOOD MORNING. I'M DANA
STAPLETON. I'M HERE REPRESENTING
THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S OFFICE
AND WE ARE CO SPONSOR AND STRONG
SUPPORT AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC
IN ROOM 2100 C NONE. MODERATOR
LET'S GO OUT TO YOU. ANY FOLKS
ON THE LINE WISHING TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR A B 23 15? PLEASE
LET US KNOW HOW MANY ARE IN THE
QUEUE. IF ANY AND LIMIT THEIR
COMMENTS TO NAME AFFILIATION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU AND AGAINST
10 AT THIS TIME, PLEASE PRESS 10
HOME. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUÊ
OFF FIRST QUARTER LINE THAT
SECTION QUÊ HERE I GO TO LINE
74. THANK YOU. TOMMY MARTIN ON
BEHALF OF EQUALITY, CALIFORNIA
COAST SPONSOR OF THE BILL IN
STRONG SUPPORT, AND I'VE ALSO
BEEN ASKED TO REGISTER SUPPORT
ON BEHALF OF OUR CO SPONSOR AT
THE FACULTY ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY NEXT,
WE HAVE LINE 61. GOOD MORNING TO
HER AND MEMBERS. JENNIFER MALLEY
ELSE FOR NYA AMERICAN FEDERATION
STATE OF COUNTY MUNICIPAL
EMPLOYEES TELLING YOUR SUPPORT.
EXTRA BLIND 83. GOOD MORNING,
JUSTIN SALMA KHAN BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES,
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. LINE 19. MY NAME IS
ANGELA BROZOVA AND MIKE LEE
ASIAN IS ON THE MAMA OF A
TRANSGENDER CHILD. AND I WANT TO
SAY THANK YOU AND I SUPPORT
THANK YOU MODERATE. CAN YOU
PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW MANY
FOLKS ARE IN THE QUEUE? JUST TWO
MORE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME LINE 81, YOU'RE
OPEN. SENATORS DAVID HAWKINS,
WITH THE CALIFORNIA COLLEGE
INDEPENDENCE IN SUPPORT. IN LAST
YEAR. WE HAVE LINE 80, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING INTEGRATION
ON BEHALF, BUT CAN YOU COLLEGE,
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. IN AND FURTHER INCLUDES.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM MY
UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE NO
PRIMARY OPPOSITION WITNESSES.
ANY FOLKS IN THE ROOM SEEKING TO
EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO A B 23 15.
PLEASE APPROACH THE SCREEN.
SEEING NONE. MODERATOR CAN WE GO
OUT TO THE LINES IF THERE ARE
FOLKS IN OPPOSITION TO 23 15 AS
NORMAL. PLEASE LIMIT. IT TO YOUR
NAME, AFFILIATION AND POSITION
AND ALSO LET US KNOW HOW MANY
FOLKS LINE UP IN THE QUEUE.
MODERATOR, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
AND THAT'S 10. AND CURRENTLY
HAVE NOTHING QUÊ. ALRIGHT THANK
YOU. BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS.
ANY COMMENTS, INQUIRIES. THINNER
LAYER. JUST ZERO. JUST SAY I
THINK THAT'S A GOOD BILL. I LOOK
FORWARD TO SUPPORTING IT AND
MOVING IT WHEN WE HAVE A CORN.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I WANT TO
AGREE WITH SENATOR LAIRD AND I'D
LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR,
IF APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU FOR
DOING THE BILL. I HAVE A
QUESTION OR TWO. WE'VE HAD A LOT
OF IDENTITY THEFT IN THE LAST
NUMBER OF YEARS AND IN THE
CRAFTING OF THIS BILL, HAVE YOU
CONTEMPLATED HOW IDENTITY CAN BE
RECONCILED? SO SHOULD AN
INDIVIDUAL WISH TO CHANGE. QUÊ
SCHOOL REGISTRATION RECORD. THAT
AT SOME POINT IN TIME THAT THEIR
HISTORY IS ABLE TO BE
RECONCILED. CAN YOU COMMENT ON
THAT? WORLD WORKING CLOSELY WITH
THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE TO MAKE
SURE THAT THOSE ISSUES WILL BE
ADDRESSED, AND I'M HAPPY TO
PROVIDE MORE DETAIL TO YOUR
OFFICE AS WE GO FORWARD IF WE
ARE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE TODAY, BUT RIGHT NOW
IN ITS CURRENT FORM, UM THIS
WASN'T A COMPONENT. UM, BUT
MAYBE IN SUBSEQUENT ITERATIONS
OR FUTURE LEGISLATION. WE'VE
BEEN WORKING WITH THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE ON
IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS BILL, AND
I'M HAPPY TO GET YOU MORE
DETAIL. OK, DOKEY. ALRIGHT,
SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM
STILL UM REMEMBER, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO OFFER CONCLUDING
COMMENTS? THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE
WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE ARE
MOVING. TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER. AH
BAUER-KAHAN. MAYBE 2089 DO WE
HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS? AND THE
RECORD FOR THIS. WE DO NOT KNOW
KI. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK
YOU. I WILL KNOW THAT THERE ARE
AMENDMENTS FORTHCOMING AND
HEALTH COMMITTEE WHERE DOUBLE
REFERRED, BUT THERE WASN'T TIME
TO MAKE THEM THEY DO ADDRESS THE
CHAMBERS CONCERNS. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THANKS AND I WANT
TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR
HARD WORK ON THE BILL AS WELL.
AS I MENTIONED WE WILL BE TAKING
AMENDMENTS IN THE FOLLOWING
COMMITTEE TO REMOVE OPPOSITIONS
CONCERNS WITH THE NOTIFICATION
REQUIREMENT ON THE BILL. I'M
PROUD TO PRESENT 2089, WHICH
FOCUSES ON YOUR COMMUNITIES
PRIVACY WHEN THE INTERACT WITH A
MENTAL HEALTH APP QUESTIONS.
LIKE WHAT? SURGERIES OR
HOSPITALIZATIONS HAVE YOU HAD?
HOW OFTEN IN THE LAST YEAR HAVE
YOU HAD FIVE OR MORE ALCOHOLIC
DRINKS ON ONE OCCASION, WHICH
MENTAL HEALTH CONDITION HAVE
MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY HAS BEEN
DIAGNOSED WITH? ON A SCALE OF 1
TO 3. HOW OFTEN DO YOU FEEL AS
IF SOMETHING TERRIBLE MIGHT
HAPPEN IF YOU WERE TO ANSWER
THESE QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO YOUR
MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER, IT WOULD
BE PROTECTED UNDER HIPAA. BUT IF
YOU ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS TO
CONNECT TO A PROVIDER THROUGH
ONE OF THE VERY POPULAR MENTAL
HEALTH APPS, YOUR INFORMATION
WOULD ONLY BE PROTECTED THROUGH
THE CPR. A. THE SERVICE COULD
AND DOES LEGALLY SELL THIS
INFORMATION AND USE IT FOR
ADVERTISING. ESPECIALLY SINCE
THE PANDEMIC, THE ONLINE MENTAL
HEALTH CARE SPACES EXPLODED WITH
AS MANY AS 20,000 APPS IN THE
CATEGORY GLOBALLY. FIRST THESE
COMPANIES TARGET THEIR
ADVERTISEMENTS TO INDIVIDUALS
BASED OFF THEIR PROBABLE
DIAGNOSIS. THEN THE APPS REQUIRE
A DETAILED SURVEY WITH QUESTIONS
LIKE THE ONE I READ TO YOU. WE
HAVE SEEN DATA SHARED WITH THESE-APPS SHOW UP ACROSS THE INTERNET
AND EVEN SOLD TO THIRD PARTIES,
LIKE IN THE CASE OF A SUICIDE
SUPPORT TEXTING LINE. A STUDY OF
THE 36 TOP RANKED APPS FOR
DEPRESSION AND SMOKING, FOUND
THAT 29 OF THE 36 TRANSMITTED
DATA TO SERVICES PROVIDED BY
FACEBOOK AND GOOGLE. IT IS
CRITICAL TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE
ARE RECEIVING CARE. NO THE DATA
THEY ARE SHARING TO GET MENTAL
HEALTH CARE IS PROTECTED. AND IF
SO, HOW THE VILLAGE SIMPLE
SIMPLY EQUALIZE THE PROTECTIONS
FOR DATA THAT CONNECTS PATIENTS
TO MENTAL HEALTH CARE. BY
INCLUDING THESE APPS IN C M I A
THE SECOND PORTION OF THE BILL
IS TO AID HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS
WHO ARE WORKING WITH THE APPS TO
WORK WITH GOOD ACTORS THAT WILL
PREVENT PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF
THEIR PATIENTS. AS I MENTIONED
WE'RE WORKING ON AMENDMENTS TO
CLARIFY THAT SECTION. MENTAL
HEALTH CARE IS UNIQUELY
VULNERABLE ONLINE AND WE MUST
PROTECT IT WITH ME TODAY AND
SUPPORT VIA PHONE IS DR PALMER.
I'LL SEE. PAUL MARCEL, LICENSED
PSYCHOLOGIST AND THE PRESIDENT
OF THE SANTA CLARA COUNTY
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION. AND
IN PERSON IS AN ADIDAS SAMPATH,
POLICY ANALYST AT CONSUMER
REPORTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO
AS THE AUTHOR INDICATED, WE HAVE
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. PLEASE
FORGIVE ME. I'LL MAKE CERTAIN
A PAUL J. MARCEL ON THE PHONE ON
THE PHONE AND A NANDITA. SEVEN
PATH PATH. ALRIGHT I GET A GOLD
STAR FOR THAT. OKAY CHAIR.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK
YOU. MY NAME IS NANDITA SAMPATH
POLICY ANALYST THAT CONSUMER
REPORTS. WE SUPPORT A B 2089
BECAUSE IT WOULD GIVE CONSUMERS
KEY PROTECTIONS OVER THE PRIVACY
OF THEIR MENTAL HEALTH
INFORMATION COLLECTED THROUGH AN
APP. INTO ALIGNMENT WITH
PROTECTIONS OVER THE PRIVACY OF
MENTAL HEALTH INFORMATION
COLLECTED IN A MEDICAL SETTING.
THE CUB IN 1919 PANDEMIC HAS LED
TO HIGHER RATES OF DEPRESSION
AND MENTAL ILLNESS, WHILE AT THE
SAME TIME HAS MADE IT HARDER TO
OBTAIN CARE. MANY CONSUMERS HAVE
TURNED TO MENTAL HEALTH APPS TO
FILL THE GAP. BUT BECAUSE THESE
APPS ARE INCONSISTENTLY COVERED
BY STRONG HEALTH PRIVACY LAWS
LIKE HIPAA, CONSUMERS ARE
VULNERABLE TO INAPPROPRIATE
DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION, SUCH
AS ABOUT WHETHER THEY SUFFER
FROM ANXIETY OR POST TRAUMATIC
STRESS. CONSUMERS AND THERAPISTS
LIKELY HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER THE
DATA WILL BE WILL BE ADEQUATE,
ADEQUATELY PROTECTED WHEN USING
A MENTAL HEALTH APP. SOME APPS
CONNECT CONSUMERS WITH LICENSED
THERAPISTS OVER VIDEO, WHICH
WOULD TYPICALLY BE COVERED BY
HEALTH PRIVACY LAWS. BUT THE
SAME APPS MAY PROVIDE MOOD
TRACKING DIARIES OR THERAPY
CHATBOTS, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY
NOT BE COVERED. THIS IS A
PROBLEM BECAUSE CONSUMER REPORTS
TESTING HAS FOUND THAT MENTAL
HEALTH APP SHARE INFORMATION
ABOUT USERS WITH TECH COMPANIES
AND THAT TRACK THEIR BEHAVIOR
ACROSS OTHER APPS, AND THIS
INFORMATION CAN INFORMATION
COULD BE USED TO TARGET ADS TO
YOU. CONSUMERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO
REACH OUT FOR HELP WITHOUT
WORRYING ABOUT HOW THEIR DATA
MIGHT BE SHARED OR MISUSED. THE
COWS. CALIFORNIA CONSUMER
PRIVACY ACT IS NOT DO ENOUGH TO
PROTECT SENSITIVE MENTAL HEALTH
DATA. IT ALLOWS CONSUMERS TO
STOP THE SALE OF THEIR PERSONAL
INFORMATION. BUT THIS BILL BY
DEFAULT PROHIBITS MOST DATA
SHARING AT ALL. MANY CONSUMERS
ARE STILL UNAWARE OF THOSE
RIGHTS AND EVEN WHEN THEY ARE
AWARE, CONSUMER REPORTS HAS
FOUND THAT CONSUMERS OFTEN
EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY OPTING
OUT OF THE CELL. THEIR
INFORMATION. FINALLY PROPOSITION
24 AMENDED THE CCP TO EXPLICITLY
SORT OF FLOOR. NOT A CEILING ON
THE MEASURE. IT IS INTENDED TO
BE STRENGTHENED IN ORDER TO
CREDIT TO BETTER PROTECT
CONSUMER PRIVACY, AND THIS IS
EXACTLY THE TYPE OF DATA THAT
SHOULD HAVE GREATER PROTECTIONS.
FOR THESE REASONS. WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION AND
MERGER I VOTE. THANK YOU. PAUL
MARCEL ON THE LINE MODERATOR.
YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEP
CAN YOU HEAR ME? OK. YES, SIR.
PLEASE GO AHEAD AND ALRIGHT,
VERY GOOD. THANKS FOR PROVIDING
ME THE DOWN FOR ME TO SPEAK WITH
THE OTHER DAY. MY NAME IS DR
PAUL MARCEL AND THE CALIFORNIA
LICENSED PSYCHOLOGIST AND A
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION AND
PRESIDENT OF THE SANTA CLARA
COUNTY PSYCHOLOGICAL
ASSOCIATION. AND I'M PLEASED TO
PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK AND
SUPPORTED A B 2089. I LIVE IN
PRACTICE. UH MY PROFESSION IN
SARATOGA, SAN JOSE AND AS I'M
SURE YOU'RE AWARE I AM MY
COLLEAGUES AT THE MOMENT, THEY
COMPLETELY OVERWHELMED WITH
REQUESTS FROM INDIVIDUALS
SEEKING HELP FOR MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES AS A RESULT OF THE
PANDEMIC. PROBABLY THE LAST 24
MONTHS PROVIDED CARE TO OVER 100
PATIENTS DURING THE PANDEMIC
FROM THE AGES OF 8 TO 75. I'VE
BEEN MEETING WITH ALL OF MY
PATIENTS, VIRTUALLY TO PROTECT
THEM AND MYSELF FROM COVID.
WITHOUT THE OPTION OF MEETING BY
VIDEO OR PHONE. IT WOULD HAVE
BEEN A BASKETBALL TO ASSIST
THESE INDIVIDUALS AND MOST OF MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE THE SAME
CHALLENGE IN PROVIDING THINGS
AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH ISSUES OF
DIGITAL PRIVACY. AS PROVIDERS.
WE TAKE RULES CONCERNING PATIENT
PRIVACY VERY SERIOUSLY. ALL OF
OUR CONTACTS WITH OUR PATIENTS
ARE CONFIDENTIAL. UM AND WE MEET
HIPAA COMPLIANCE AND TAKE THAT
VERY SERIOUSLY. HOWEVER CERTAIN
ONLINE SERVICES OFFERING
COUNSELING CONNECTIONS SOLICITOR
PROVIDERS WITHOUT MAKING IT
CLEAR THAT WHEN WE CONNECT WITH
THEM, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS FROM
PATIENTS VISIT OUR OFFICES. WHEN
A PATIENT COMES INTO THE OFFICE
, I KNOW THAT EVERY PIECE OF
PAPER THEY TOUCH AND EVERY PIECE
OF INFORMATION THEY GIVE ME.
LICENSED PROVIDER WILL BE
PROTECTED UNDER THE AUSPICES OF
THAN ANYTHING A PATIENT SHARES
HIS CONFIDENTIAL IT WOULD NEVER
BE SHARED WITHOUT THEIR WRITTEN
PERMISSION. HOWEVER WHEN WE GO
THROUGH SOME OF THESE COMMERCIAL
PLATFORMS THAT ADVERTISERS
SERVICES OR WE RECOMMEND ACT
THAT COULD BE USEFUL FOR OUR
PATIENTS THAT THE DANGER THAT
OUR PATIENTS SHARE WITH THE APP
AND NOT DIRECTLY WITH US IS NOT
PREDICTED BY HIP HOP. AND EVEN
THOUGH THE DATA THEY PROVIDE
SOME HELP THEM RECEIVE CARE FROM
A HITLER COVERED INTERVIEWS SUCH
AS MYSELF ARE RECEIVED CARE
ONLINE WITH THE HAIR FROM THESE
INTERVIEWS, DATA REGARDING THEIR
PARTICULAR CONDITIONS OR PRIVATE
PERSONAL DETAILS REMAIN EXPOSED.
OR MAYBE EVEN AS HAS BEEN
INDICATED BY THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
TOLD BY THE OUTLETS ONE THANK
YOU, DOCTOR AFTER WE FINISH IT
UP AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO
JUST PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I AM
MY COLLEAGUES ARE STRONG
SUPPORTERS OF PATIENT PRIVACY
AND OPPOSED THE DATA COLLECTION
WITHOUT PATIENT PERMISSIONS, AND
I WOULD ASK YOU TO VOTE ON 18
2089. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOVING BACK TO ROOM 2100 ANY
FOLKS HERE PRESENT WISHING TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR A B 2089.
PLEASE LIMIT IT TO YOUR NAME,
AFFILIATION AND POSITION,
PLEASE. THANK YOU. DENNY KENDALL
KAISER ON BEHALF OF THE
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU ANYONE
ELSE? SEEING NONE. MODERATOR
MOVING TO THE PHONE LINES. SAME
DRILL. ANY FOLKS WISHING TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT. PLEASE IDENTIFY
HOW MANY ARE IN THE QUEUE,
LIMITING THEIR COMMENTS TO NAME
POSITION. AND AFFILIATION. THANK
YOU AND BRIEF US WONDER.
CURRENTLY THREE AND Q FIRST GO
TO LINE. PORT TO YOU HERE IN
LINE. 88, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES
GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS.
TRACY RESERVOIR, CALLING ON
BEHALF OF A PLANNED TO EXPRESS
OUR SUPPORT FOR N B 2089.
THANKS. THANK YOU. LINE 40.
GEORGE FOR EMPATHY ON BEHALF A
CL YOU CALIFORNIA ACTION IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. BLIND 90.
HELLO. THIS IS NAME OR FORD
CALLING ON BEHALF OF TBH AND
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. IN OUR LAST
AND QUÊ AS LINE 19. HELLO. MY
NAME IS BENJAMIN BLUE HARBOR,
AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF THANK YOU
. FOLLOWING THE SAME PROCEDURES
NOW MOVING ON TO FOLKS
EXPRESSING OPPOSITION TO 2089.
WE HAVE A ALEXIS APPLE. I DON'T
KNOW IF THAT INDIVIDUALS IN
PERSON OR ON THE PHONE HI. THIS
IS ALEXIS APPLE AND I'M ON THE
PHONE. PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
YOU. CHAIR VICE CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE ON BEHALF OF 80
ACTIONS, THE AMERICAN PAELLA
MINISTER AFFILIATED TRADE
ASSOCIATION FOCUSED ON ADVOCACY
. I AM VOICING CONCERNS ABOUT
PUBLIC CURRENT DRAFT ASSEMBLY
BUILD 89. APPLE POLICY ASSOCIATE
WITH ME TODAY. ACTION THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY,
SAID THANK YOU. APPROVAL. I
APPRECIATE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT
HAVE BEEN MADE A B 2089 THE MOST
RECENT DRAFT, STREAMLINING THE
REGISTRATION PROCESS FOR HEALTH
APPLICATION DEVELOPERS AND
BRINGING THESE APPLICATIONS
TECHNOLOGIES AND THE PURVIEW OF
EXISTING STATE LAWS. THE
CONFERENCE. REALITY OF
INFORMATION AT THE M I S HALF OF
THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS OF
SEVERAL CONCERNS ABOUT CURRENTLY
WRITTEN WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
THE BROAD DEFINITIONS OF MENTAL
HEALTH APPLICATION AND MENTAL
HEALTH APPLICATION INFORMATION.
THE BILL THESE DEFINITIONS
CIVICALLY IN REGARD TO THE
PHRASE INFERRED ASSIST IN THE
DEFINITION OF MENTAL HEALTH
APPLICATION INFORMATION. DON'T
PROVIDE ENOUGH CLARITY AS THE
TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT ARE
BEING TARGETED BY THESE PRIVACY
PROVISIONS. WE SUGGEST NEARING
THE LANGUAGE TO ENSURE THAT ONLY
INFORMATION INTENDED ABOUT THE
USER TO BE USED FOR HEALTH CARE
SERVICES PROTECTED, UNDERSTAND
MY WHICH WE BELIEVE IS BETTER
ALIGNED WITH THE PURPOSE OF A.
WE ALSO SUGGEST INCORPORATING
THIS LITERAL LANGUAGE THAT
EMPOWERS THE CONSUMER TO BE
NOTIFIED WHEN SENSITIVE
INFORMATION IS BEING REQUESTED
ON A MENTAL HEALTH ADAPTATION.
FINALLY WE ASKED THE LEGISLATURE
NOW THE REQUIREMENTS PLACED ON
BUSINESSES WHICH OPERATE MENTAL
HEALTH APPLICATIONS AS THEY
RELATE TO INFORMING PROVIDERS.
ALL THAT SWEETNESS FEAR THAT THE
CURRENT OPERATIONS EZRIN AND
PROPOSED LEGISLATION ARE OVER
OVERLY BROAD. AND ULTIMATELY
RESULT IN A REDUCTION IN ACCESS
TO NEEDED VIRTUAL CARE. THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
COMMENT TO LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK, THE
COMMITTEE AND THE AUTHOR ON THIS
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. UM NOW
MOVING BACK TO ROOM 2100 ANY
FOLKS WISHING TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION? MAYBE 2089, PLEASE
APPROACH THE SCREEN. SEEING NONE
. MODERATOR DO WE HAVE ANY FOLKS
IN THE QUEUE IN OPPOSITION TO A
B 2089? PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW
MANY AND LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO
NAME POSITION AND AFFILIATION.
PRESS ONE. BUT THIS TIME.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO IN Q WILL
GO TO LINE 84. FREE AND YOU
TALKING ON BEHALF OF TEXT THAT
NOT OPPOSED TO THE BILL, BUT WE
ALIGN OUR CONCERNS WITH THOSE
EXPRESSED BY A AND APPRECIATE
THE OFFICE WORK ON THIS BILL. IN
LINE 65. THANK YOU. RANA BELLAMY
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THE
PACKAGES CLARIFY WHERE,
TECHNICALLY NOT IN OPPOSITION,
WE'VE HAD A TWEENER POSITION OF
CONCERNS. POWER WE'VE BEEN
WORKING VERY PRODUCTIVELY WITH
THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE PROCESS AND
ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING
ABLE TO MOVE TO NEUTRAL BASED ON
THE AMENDMENTS PLANNED IN THAT
COMMITTEE ONCE THEIR IMPRINT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT
UM, BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS.
ANY OF OUR COLLEAGUES WISHING TO
COMMENT OR POST QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE. WELL WE DO NOT HAVE
A QUORUM YET, AS YOU KNOW, BUT
IF YOU'D LIKE TO OFFER SOME
CONCLUDING COMMENTS, THIS WOULD
BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY. WELL I
ASKED THOSE THAT ARE HERE TO
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN IVA WHEN
THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE WHEN THE
TIME IS APPROPRIATE, FANTASTIC.
YEAH SO SAYS THE ROYAL KAHANA. I
LIKE IT TRYING TO MAKE THAT
STICKS IN IT. AH I LOVE IT. ALL
RIGHT. MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER FIVE BY THE SAME AUTHOR A
B 26 27. UM BEFORE WE BEGIN.
THERE ARE AMENDMENTS. UH IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING AND THEY HAVE BEEN
ACCEPTED BY YOU. IS THAT
CORRECT? ACCEPTING COMMITTEES
MEMBERS? ALRIGHT THE ELECTRON IS
YOURS. THANK YOU LIKE TO START
BY THANKING THE STAFF AGAIN AND
HAVE ACCEPTED THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. AS YOU HEARD HIGHER
EDUCATION IS A RIGHT THAT SHOULD
BE ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL EVERYONE
SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR
EDUCATION FOR VULNERABLE
INDIVIDUALS LIKE VETERANS, THE
FORMERLY INCARCERATED FORMER
FOSTER YOUTH. HIGHER EDUCATION
OFTEN SEEMS OUT OF REACH. THESE
INDIVIDUALS MAY BE UNAWARE OF
THE SPECIAL PROGRAMS, GUIDANCE
AND RESOURCES THAT OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGES HAVE IN PLACE FOR.
THEIR SPECIFIC NEEDS
SIMULTANEOUSLY. OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ARE EXPERIENCING A
DECLINING ENROLLMENT, WHICH
THREATENS THEIR SOLVENCY. EVEN
THOUGH STUDENTS NEED THESE
RESOURCES AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES
NEED ENROLLMENT, COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ARE PURPOSE PREVENTED
FROM REACHING OUT TO THESE
POPULATIONS AS THEY LACK THE
DATA AND INFORMATION TO FIND
THEM. WILL BE 26 27 WILL RESOLVE
THIS ISSUE BY CREATING AN MOU
AGREEMENT WITH STATE AND LOCAL
AGENCIES TO SHARE DATA WITH THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS,
ALLOWING COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICTS TO PROVIDE OUTREACH,
EDUCATIONAL SERVICES TO OUR
VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. WILL IN
TURN, INCREASE ENROLLMENT AND
PROVIDE LIFE CHANGING EDUCATION
TO ADULT POPULATIONS WITH ME.
JANE SUPPORT IS PRESIDENT OF
LOUIS MEDINA. MADONNA'S
COMMUNITY COLLEGE, DR ROBERT
KRAFT, OAKVILLE AND ON BEHALF OF
THE CONTRA, POSITIVE COMMUNITY
COLLEGE DISTRICT AND IN A
NICKEL, A VETERANS ADVOCATE WHO
REPRESENTS OUR VETERANS SUPPORT
GROUPS ON THE BILL. THANK YOU,
AS THE AUTHOR INDICATED. WE HAVE
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT ON THE
PHONE. A DOCTOR BOB CRITIC VILLE
IF I PRONOUNCE IT CORRECTLY,
CORRECTLY IN DANA NICOLE ALSO ON
THE LINE, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR
COMMENTS TO TWO MINUTES EACH FOR
A TOTAL OF FOUR. AND PLEASE GO
AHEAD, DOCTOR. MAY I CONFIRM
THAT YOU CAN HEAR ME? WE CAN
HEAR YOU. EXCELLENT MY NAME IS
BOB, CREDIBLE, PRESIDENT OF
LOCKSMITH HONORS COLLEGE AND I'D
LIKE TO READ A STATEMENT FROM
OUR INTERIM CHANCELLOR OF THE
CONTRA KOSTIC COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT. MOST UNMET AZADEH
REGARDING A B 26 27. COMMUNITY
COLLEGE DATA SHARING AND
OUTREACH CHAIR. HAMBURG VICE
CHAIR BORDER GIS AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE LIKE SO MANY
ACROSS THIS STATE OR COMMUNITY
COLLEGE DISTRICT IS FACING
ENROLLMENT CHALLENGES. IT IS NOT
ABOUT THE QUALITY OF HIGHER
EDUCATION, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
PROVIDE. RATHER THE PANDEMIC HAS
CREATED NEW BARRIERS THAT ARE
CAUSING STUDENTS TO DROP OUT.
TAKE A FEW SEMESTERS OFF OR
CONCERNED THEY NO LONGER NEED TO
PRIORITIZE HIGHER EDUCATION TO
QUALIFY FOR GOOD PAYING JOBS. WE
NEED TO FIND NEW, CREATIVE AND
EFFECTIVE WAYS TO REACH
POTENTIAL STUDENTS AND A B 26 27
COMMUNITY. COLLEGE DATA SHARING
AN OUTREACH IS PART OF THAT
SOLUTION. LAST YEAR, WE BEGAN A
TROOP WRONG OUTREACH STRATEGY TO
ADDRESS OUR ENROLLMENT
CHALLENGES. FIRST WE SAW THE
PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR FEEDER HIGH
SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO OBTAIN
CONTACT INFORMATION OF THEIR
10TH THROUGH 12TH GRADE STUDENTS
SO WE CAN INFORM THEM AND THEIR
PARENTS ABOUT THE GREAT
OPPORTUNITIES TO TAKE COLLEGE
LEVEL COURSES. WELL THEY'RE
STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL AT THE
PRESENT TIME. WE HAVEN'T
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH
SEVEN OF OUR NINE FEEDER HIGH
SCHOOLS AND HAVE RECEIVED OVER
20,000 CONTACT FILES. SO FAR.
SECOND SINCE SO MUCH OF OUR WORK
IN COMMUNITY COLLEGES DEDICATED
TO UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. WE
ARE PARTNERING WITH CONTRA COSTA
COUNTY TO SEEK A SIMILAR
OUTREACH EFFORTS TO SPECIFIC
COMMUNITIES. EMANCIPATED FOSTER
YOUTH VETERANS, UNEMPLOYED OR
UNDEREMPLOYED. AND THOSE WHO ARE
FORMERLY IN CRUSHED CARS FROM
RATED OR JUSTICE INVOLVED. LIKE
MANY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES,
THERE ARE MEMBERS OF OUR
COMMUNITY WHO OFTEN ARE PREYED
UPON BY FOR PROFIT, PRIVATE
EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND
ULTIMATELY, RACK UP HUGE DEBT,
WILL NOT ACHIEVING THEIR
ULTIMATE GOAL QUALIFYING FOR
GOOD PAYING JOBS. 80 26 27 WILL
PROVIDE THE CLARITY AND
PERMISSION TO DEVELOP AN
MEMORANDUM MEMORANDUM OF
UNDERSTANDING WITH OUR COUNTY TO
SHARE CONTACT INFORMATION OF
THESE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES
WITH US. WE WANT TO BE CLEAR.
THIS IS NOT DATA MINING, AND WE
WILL PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF THE
INFORMATION WE RECEIVED, JUST
LIKE ANY OTHER STUDENT
INFORMATION WE POSSESS YOU OF
THE ASSEMBLY. THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE AND ADD BECAUSE HE WE
SEEK YOUR SUPPORT AS WE CONTINUE
THE APPROVAL PROCESS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UH OUR
NEXT WITNESS AND SUPPORT WOULD
BE DANA ON NICOLE. AH, PLEASE
LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS, TWO
MINUTES. OUTSTANDING GOOD
MORNING TIER MEMBERS WHO
SUSTAINED A NICKEL WITH REED
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS OR CLIENTS
, THE AMERICAN LEGION AND BEST
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY
VETERANS SERVICE OFFICERS.
CALIFORNIA STATE COMMANDERS
VETERANS COUNCIL THE MILITARY
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA
AND THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF
AMERICA SUPPORTS THE STILL THE
YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE
OUR COUNTRY. THE MILITARY FACE A
COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE WHEN
DISCHARGING FROM THE MILITARY,
THEY STOOD UP TO PROTECT OUR
FREEDOMS BY MAKING A COMMITMENT
TO DUTY. THEY DID THIS AT A TIME
OF THEIR LIVES WITH MOST 18 YEAR
OLDS WERE EXTENDING COLLEGE
LEARNING TRADES AND BUILDING
RESUMES. UPON SEPARATION FROM
MILITARY SERVICE. THESE VETERANS
REINTEGRATE INTO THE CIVILIAN
WORLD, HOWEVER, THEY HAVE ACCESS
TO ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
POLICIES ENACTED IN THE 20TH
CENTURY. A POLICY WHICH ALLOWED
MANY VETERANS BE THE FIRST ONES
TO GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE IN THE
ENTIRE HISTORY OF THEIR FAMILY.
VAST NUMBERS OF WORLD WAR. TWO
KOREA VIETNAM VETERANS BECAME
THE TEACHERS, SCIENTISTS,
ENGINEERS, DOCTORS, NURSES AND
TECHNICIANS FEEL THE TECHNOLOGY
BOOM AND BUILT THE CALIFORNIA
DREAM. THIS PROGRAM, THE G I
BILL STILL EXISTS AND HAS BEEN
IMPROVED AND EXPANDED BY
CONGRESS OVER THE YEARS. THERE
ARE ALSO MANY OTHER FEDERAL AND
STATE PROGRAMS AVAILABLE FOR
VETERANS, AS WELL AS CURRENT
MILITARY MEMBERS TO ATTEND
COLLEGE, SUCH AS THE COLLEGE.
THE WAIVER NONRESIDENT FEE
WAIVER FOR THOSE STATIONS IN
CALIFORNIA ACADEMIC CREDIT FOR
BASIC TRAINING AND MANY OTHERS.
THE G I BILL COVERS GRADUATE AND
UNDERGRADUATE DEGREES, TUTORIAL
ASSISTANCE AND REIMBURSEMENT FOR
THOSE SERVICES REIMBURSEMENT FOR
A SAT CS AT CCP EXAMS, THE STATE
BAR NURSING ETCETERA. SO EVER.
LIKE MANY GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS
AND BENEFITS, THEY ARE OFTEN
OBSCURED BY THE SHEER VOLUME OF
INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO
EVERYONE BECAUSE OF THE
INFORMATION AGE WHEN VETERANS
AND THE MILITARY THEY ARE TRYING
TO SECURE HOUSING, OBTAIN A JOB,
GET THE KIDS INTO LOCAL SCHOOLS
AND DETAIN OBTAINED WATER, POWER
AND UTILITIES. 80 26 27 WILL
ENHANCE THE ABILITY OF THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE IS TO PERFORM
DIRECT GALLERY TO CALIFORNIA'S
VETERANS AND INFORMED THEM OF
THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT
ARE AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR NICOLE. ALRIGHT MOVING
BACK TO ROOM 2100 ANY FOLKS
PHYSICALLY PRESENT AND GROOM
2100 WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT.
PLEASE APPROACH THE SCREEN
LIMITING YOUR NAME AFFILIATION
POSITION, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
MARK MCDONALD ON BEHALF OF THE
ANTELOPE VALLEY, SAN DIEGO AND
YUBA COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. ANYBODY
ELSE IN ROOM 2100 SEEING NONE
MOVING TO THE MODERATOR,
MODERATOR. DO WE HAVE ANY FOLKS
ON THE ON THE LINE IN SUPPORT OF
26 27? IF SO, PLEASE LET US KNOW
HOW MANY ARE IN THE QUEUE.
CERTAINLY 10 AT THIS TIME,
PLEASE. THINK OF ANY MOMENT
HERE. WE'VE GOT ONE IN. Q. I'LL
GO TO THEM. IT'S LINE 100. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS ABRAHAM A JET AND I'M
WITH THE CALF AND THE COMMUNITY.
COLLEGE CHEFS AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. MODERATOR. YOU
MENTIONED THERE'S NOBODY ELSE.
CORRECT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE
DO NOT HAVE. I BELIEVE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
AND MOVING. BACK TO ROOM 2100
ANY FOLKS PHYSICALLY PRESENT
HERE WISHING TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO 26 27, PLEASE
APPROACH THE SCREEN. SEEING NON
MODERATOR, CAN YOU PLEASE GO OUT
TO THE LINES? SAME DRILL. GIVE
US AN IDEA HOW MANY ARE IN THE
QUEUE, LIMITING THEIR COMMENTS
TO NAME AFFILIATION AND
POSITION, PLEASE? INTO A POST
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
AND WE HAVE NOTHING QUÊ AT THIS
TIME. ALRIGHT. BRING IT BACK.
ANY COLLEAGUES WISHING TO POSE A
QUESTION OR COMMENT. SEEING NONE
, WITH THE AUTHOR LIKE TO OFFER
CONCLUDING COMMENTS, THOUGH, OF
COURSE WE STILL DON'T HAVE A
QUORUM WILL DEAL WITH THIS AT A
LATER POINT TODAY, BUT
CONCLUDING COMMENTS, PLEASE,
JUST THAT I ALSO RESPECT THE
ASTRONAUT VOTE ON THIS WHEN THE
TIME IS APPROPRIATE, THANK YOU
MEMBERS MUCH AND AS THE GAVEL
WAS TRANSFERRED TO ME BY ARE
CAPABLE LEADER WHO IS ABSENT. I
AM NOW TRANSFERRING IT OVER TO
CENTER. CABALLERO WHO IS QUITE
CAPABLE OF SERVING AS CHAIR.
CUP. POWER HAS ITS PRIVILEGES. I
GUESS. ALRIGHTY LET'S SEE WHO IS
WHO'S HERE. AH, YES.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BRIAN. WELCOME.
THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT
A. B 16 86. WELCOME. MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. IT'S GREAT TO BE
WITH YOU THIS MORNING. I'M HERE
TODAY TO PRESENT A B. 16 86
SINCE 1984 CONGRESS BEGAN MAKING
COUNTIES RECOUP THE COST OF
FOSTER CARE ON PARENTS WHO HAD
LOST THEIR CHILD LOST THEIR
CHILDREN TO THE CHILD WELFARE
SYSTEM. OVER TIME, WE FOUND THAT
THIS PRACTICE NOT ONLY HAS BEEN
HARMFUL TO FAMILY REUNIFICATION
, CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS HAVE
HAD TO PAY THESE COSTS END UP
STAYING IN FOSTER CARE FOR AN
AVERAGE OF SEVEN MONTHS LONGER,
BUT IT'S ALSO INEFFECTIVE
GOVERNMENT FOR EVERY DOLLAR AND
FINES AND FEES. WE LEVY ON THESE
FAMILIES. WE ONLY GET 27 SINCE
BACK AND BECAUSE OF THAT
PRACTICE, WE HAVE INTRODUCED
THIS BILL TO CREATE A REBUTTABLE
PRESUMPTION FOR COUNTIES THAT
PRESUMES THAT. UM REQUIRING
FAMILY WITH FAMILY MEMBERS OF
CHILDREN WHO ARE IN FOSTER CARE
TO PAY FOR THOSE FOSTER CARE
COSTS UNNECESSARILY EXTENDS TIME
IN FOSTER CARE. AND BECAUSE THAT
PRESUMPTION IS REBUTTABLE. IT
ALLOWS COUNTIES TO CONTINUE TO
RECOUP. THEIR FEDERAL COST
REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THE CHILD
WELFARE AGENCIES. IT'S GOOD
GOVERNMENT, SUPPORTED BY A
LITANY OF CHILD WELFARE
ORGANIZATIONS WITH ME TO GIVE
TESTIMONY TODAY IS SABRINA FORTE
, DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND IMPACT
LITIGATION ON BEHALF OF THE
ALLIANCE OF CHILDREN'S RIGHTS,
AND PAULA. VELAZQUEZ DIRECTOR OF
LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY FOR COUNTY
WELFARE DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION.
WELCOME. PLEASE STEP FORWARD. SO
WE'VE GOT MR FORTE ON THE PHONE.
OKAY LET'S KICKED OFF. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR AND SENATORS
PAHLAVI ESKISEHIR ON BEHALF OF
THE COUNTY WELFARE DIRECTORS
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA, AND I
WANT TO THINK OF SOME REMEMBER
BRIAN FOR AUTHORING THIS
IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION,
AS THE AUTHOR NOTED. THIS BILL
CLARIFIES PAYMENT REFERRAL
CRITERIA FOR PARENTS WHOSE
CHILDREN ARE PLACED IN FOSTER
CARE. AND THE CURRENT LAW THE
CHILD WELFARE SYSTEM CAN BUT IS
NOT REQUIRED TO MAKE A REFERRAL
FOR COLLECTIONS. IN CERTAIN
INSTANCES WHERE COLLECTION IS
NOT A BARRIER TO REUNIFICATION
FOR CHILDREN. THAT HAVE BEEN
INVOLUNTARILY SEPARATED FROM
THEIR PARENTS. CWD A CO
SPONSORED A NUMBER OF AND A
NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, A LAW THAT
REDUCED REFERRALS ON A CASE BY
CASE BASIS. AND THIS BILL
CLARIFIES THAT A CHILD WELFARE
DEPARTMENT MUST PRESUME THAT
PAYMENT OF SUPPORT BY THE PARENT
IS LIKELY TO POSE A BARRIER TO
REUNIFICATION. AS THE AUTHOR
MENTIONED, THIS IS CONSISTENT
WITH OUR RESEARCH THAT HAS BEEN
DONE SAYS FOR EVERY $100. A
CHILD WELFARE INVOLVED PARENT
PAYS THEIR CHILD'S DURATION AND
CARE LENGTHENS FOR SIX AND 6.6
MONTHS. THE EFFECTS ARE
ESPECIALLY PRONOUNCED FOR
FAMILIES OF COLOR, WHO ARE
SIGNIFICANTLY OVERREPRESENTED IN
CALIFORNIA'S CHILD WELFARE
SYSTEM. FAMILIES WHO ARE
SUPPORTED BY PUBLIC SYSTEMS ARE
BETTER ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY
COMPLETE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE
DEPENDENCY COURT IN ORDER TO
REUNIFY WITH THEIR CHILDREN,
CONVERSELY, ENFORCING PAYMENTS
BY PARENTS WHO ARE FINANCIALLY
STRUGGLING, GENERALLY SERVES TO
MAKE A REUNIFICATION. WITH THEIR
CHILDREN HARDER TO ACHIEVE AND
CAN FURTHER DESTABILIZED THE
FAMILY. THE CHANGES EFFECTIVELY
NARROWS THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT
WOULD ALLOW CHILD WELFARE
PROFESSIONALS TO REFER PARENTS
TO ENFORCEMENT WILL KEEPING
CALIFORNIA LAW WITHIN THE
PARAMETERS OF FEDERAL LAW. THIS
BILL WILL IMPROVE OUTCOMES FOR
FOSTER YOUTH. BASSIST IN WITH
REUNIFICATION WITH FAMILIES, AND
WE APPRECIATE YOUR
CONSIDERATION. RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NOW WE WILL GO TO THE
CONFERENCE LINE FOR SABRINA
FORTE. YES, I'M HERE. THANK YOU
. AND GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE
MEMBERS AND SABRINA FORTE ON
BEHALF OF THE ALLIANCE FOR
CHILDREN'S RIGHTS, A PROUD CO
SPONSOR OF HB 16 86. I WANT TO
SHARE THE STORY OF ONE
INDIVIDUAL, ERICA, A STRONG
SUPPORTER OF THIS BILL, WHO HAS
BEEN DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE
PROBLEM THAT THIS BILL SEEKS TO
ADDRESS ERICA'S DAUGHTER WAS
PLACED IN FOSTER CARE AND AUGUST
2019. AFTERWARDS HE WAS CALLED
TO COURT TO RESPOND TO AN ORDER
TO PAY FOR THE COST OF HER
DAUGHTER'S CARE. SHE WAS ORDERED
TO PAY $945 MONTHLY. SHE FOUGHT
HARD TO REDUCE HER AMOUNTS TO
$495 A MONTH. WHICH LASTED FOR
THE REST OF THE TIME, HER
DAUGHTER WAS IN CARE PLUS
ANOTHER FOUR MONTHS AFTERWARDS.
ERICA'S CASE PLAN REQUIRED HER
TO COMPLETE MULTIPLE SERVICES.
SHE DID EVERYTHING TO GET HER
CHILD BACK, TAKING PARENTING
CLASSES, TAKING MENTAL HEALTH
EVALUATIONS PARTICIPATING IN A
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAM. IT
WAS HARD TO HOLD ON TO HER
HOUSING WITH AN EXTRA BILL OF
ALMOST $500 A MONTH AND SHE
COULDN'T MAINTAIN HER JOB
BECAUSE THE COUNTY ASKED SO MANY
TIMES FOR HER TO SHOW UP FOR
TEAM DECISION MAKING MEETINGS
AND OTHER MEETINGS THAT WERE NOT
ALWAYS APPROVED BY HER EMPLOYER
LEADING TO HER BEING. LET GO.
ERICA ULTIMATELY REUNIFIED WITH
HER DAUGHTER AFTER NEARLY TWO
YEARS. ERICA WAS UNABLE TO
PARTICIPATE TODAY DUE TO
CONSTRAINTS IN HERCURRENT WORK
SCHEDULE, BUT SHE WANTS THIS
COMMITTEE TO KNOW THAT MAKING
PARENTS PAY FOR FOSTER CARE GOES
AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT SAYS
THAT IT STANDS FOR NAMELY TO
PROTEST AND HELP CHILDREN AND
FAMILIES REUNIFIED. WE AGREE
WITH ERICA AND DEEPLY APPRECIATE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BRIAN FOR US
DURING THIS BILL, THANK YOU AND
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY HERE TODAY. APPRECIATE
IT VERY MUCH TO SEE IF THERE'S
ANYBODY IN ROOM 2100 THAT WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL. SEEING NONE WILL MOVE
BACK TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE
AND ASK, UH, MODERATOR IF YOU
COULD QUÊ IT INDIVIDUALS THAT
WANT TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF A
B 16 86. THANK YOU. SO PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. STAND
WE'VE GOT TO AND SUPPORT RIGHT
NOW. I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE OUR
LINE 8 19. MAKING YOUR OPEN.
HELLO MY NAME IS ANGELA GRIJALVA
AND THE LEGAL DOCUMENT ASSISTANT
HERE IN SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA
AND I OFTEN WORK WITH LITIGANTS
SUCH AS THE EXAMPLE PROVIDED AND
I AM IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT GOT
LINE 104. GEORGE GRAHAM ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA ACTION IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND FURTHER
IN CUBE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO
OPPOSITION. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES LISTED IN
OPPOSITION, SO I'LL SEE IF
THERE'S ANYBODY IN ROOM 2100.
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. SAYING THEN WE'LL GO
BACK TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE
MODERATOR IF YOU COULD QUEUE UP
THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN OPPOSITION.
MR MODERATOR. CURRENTLY NONE IN
Q. THANK YOU SO MUCH WILL BRING
THE MATTER BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS? THERE
IS NO QUESTIONS. WE DON'T HAVE A
QUORUM. BUT WHEN WE GET ONE, WE
WILL TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION
. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR THIS. THIS BILL. I
THINK IT'S THRILLING IMPORTANT.
IT'S I DID A LOT OF 306 100
CASES AND, UM THE ABILITY TO PAY. IS REALLY A CHALLENGE FOR MANY
PEOPLE, AND IT KEEPS THEM IN A
QUEUE THAT MARKED NEGATIVE IN
TERMS OF EITHER THE PROBATION
DEPARTMENT OR THE DEPARTMENT OF
SOCIAL SERVICES. SO I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS
AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD. AND
MAY MAKE ANY CONCLUDING REMARKS.
I JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY
VOTE FROM THE MEMBERS HERE AND
THE MEMBERS WHO WILL BE HERE
WHEN A QUORUM IS REACHED. THANK
YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. OH ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERN
BERMAN WELCOME. BESIDES
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CORK HERE, AND
I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO JUMP
THE LINE, AND THAT'S A GOOD
THING TODAY BECAUSE OTHERWISE HE
HAS TO COME BACK REALLY LATE.
WELCOME ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANK YOU
SAID THERE'S DEEP PICTURE
EXTREMELY CONVINCING, FABRICATED
PHOTOS, VIDEOS AND AUDIO
RECORDINGS OF SOMEONE APPEARING
TO SAY OR DO SOMETHING. THEY DID
NOT THE ABILITY TO ATTRIBUTE
SPEECH AND CONDUCT CONDUCT TO A
POLITICAL CANDIDATE. THAT IS
FALSE. THAT NEVER HAPPENED MAKES
DEEPFAKES A POWERFUL AND
DANGEROUS TOOL IN THE ARSENAL OF
THOSE THAT WANT TO WAGE MIS AND
DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGNS. WHICH
IS WHY IN 2019, THE LEGISLATURE
PASSED MY A B 7 30 NARROWLY
CRAFTED BILL TO PROHIBIT THE
DISTRIBUTION OF DEEPFAKES AND
OTHER MANIPULATED MEDIA WITHIN
60 DAYS OF AN ELECTION UNLESS
THE IMAGE RECORDING INCLUDES A
DISCLOSURE STATING THAT IT IS
MANIPULATED. NOTABLY THE BILL
INCLUDED A JANUARY 1ST 2023
SUNSET PROVISION. THIS BILL 89
72 WOULD EXTEND THE SUNSET TO
JANUARY 1ST 2027, KEEPING THE
LAW INTACT FOR AN ADDITIONAL
FOUR YEARS. DOING SO WILL
PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR
ELECTIONS IN THE COMING YEARS AS
DEEPFAKE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES AND
BECOMES EVEN MORE MAINSTREAM.
MAYBE 7 30 RECEIVED WIDESPREAD
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN 2019.
VOTERS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW
WHETHER OR NOT THE MEDIA THEY
ARE BEING SHOWN IS REAL OR FAKE.
SO I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I SEE
THAT THERE ARE NO PRIMARY
WITNESSES LISTED IN SUPPORT, SO
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SUPPORT IN
ROOM. 2100 IS THERE ANYONE HERE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL? THING,
THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. MODERATOR
COULD YOU QUEUE UP ANY
INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A B 1972?
CERTAINLY, THANK YOU. IT'S 10 AT
THIS TIME. AGAINST 10. WE HAVE
WANTED TO GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT
HERE. LIKE AN OPEN LINE, 58.
GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS
HERE EARLY ON BEHALF OF SILICON
VALLEY COMMUNITY FOUNDATION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. AND CURRENTLY NONE
FURTHER IN. Q THANK YOU SO MUCH
. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OPPOSITION.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LEAD
OPPOSITION WITNESSES, SO WE'LL
CHECK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY
HERE IN ROOM 2100 THAT WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
THING, THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. WATER IF
YOU COULD QUEUE UP INDIVIDUALS
THAT WANT TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION, THE A B 1972. THANK
YOU AGAIN, IT IS 10. IN
CURRENTLY 19 QUÊ. VERY GOOD.
WE'LL BRING THE ISSUE BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE. SENATOR LARRY I'M
JUST GONNA SAY SO. THERE WERE
ONLY THREE NO VOTES IN THE
ASSEMBLY. IT'S JUST A SUNSET
EXTENSION FOR SOMETHING THAT
APPEARS TO WORK AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS WHEN
AH, SOMETIME IN THE NEXT YEAR,
WE ACHIEVE A CORN. VERY WELL,
SAID SENATOR UM, SENT
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERMAN. YOU MAY
CONCLUDE, RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR I
VOTE WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.
THANKS. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CORK,
YOU'RE UP. A SMART MAN, WE ARE
GONNA MOVE FORWARD TO FILE
NUMBER 37, WHICH IS A B 21 88.
WELCOME THANK YOU, SENATOR
CABALLERO, SENATOR LARD. UM, YOU
KNOW IF YOU WAIT AROUND LONG
ENOUGH THERE'S USUALLY A BREAK.
THANK YOU CHAIR AND I WANT TO
FIRST EXTEND MY APPRECIATION FOR
THE GREAT WORK OF THE CHAIR AND
THE STAFF. WORKING CLOSELY WITH
MY OFFICE. THE OPPOSITION AS
WELL AS THE PROPONENT. AND I
ACCEPT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
THAT WILL AND WILL TAKE THEM IN
THE LABOR COMMITTEE. MY STAFF
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH BOTH
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION AND
POLISHING THE LANGUAGE ON THE
DEFINITION OF IMPAIRED BY IT IS
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE
A BRIGHT LINE. AND I BELIEVE
THAT THE CURRENT LANGUAGES IS
VERY CLOSE TO DOING WHAT'S
NEEDED, BUT I'M CERTAINLY GOING
TO LISTEN TO OTHERS IN CASE WE
NEED TO MODIFY IT AND WILL
ALWAYS CHECK BACK. WITH THE
COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY'RE IN LINE WITH THIS AS
WELL. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'VE
MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS. WILL
KEEP YOU IN THE COMMITTEE
UPDATED A B 21 88 WOULD PROTECT
CALIFORNIA'S USE CANNABIS ON
THEIR DOWN FRONT DOWNTIME. FROM
BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST IN
THE WORKPLACE. SCIENCE IS
IMPORTANT. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS.
CHECKING PEOPLE TO SEE IF THEY
HAVE THC. PHC THE ACTIVE
INGREDIENT IN CANNABIS. IF
SOMEONE HAS IT. THEN. WE HAVE A
VERY HIGH LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY
ARE IMPAIRED AND THAT'S WHAT WE
WANT TO LOOK AT PREVIOUS TESTS.
HAVE LOOKED AT THE METABOLIC, UH
, METABOLITES OF CANNABIS AND
THE METABOLITES OF THC. WHICH
CAN REMAIN IN THE BODY FOR A
LONG TIME. WE CAN TEST FOR THC
WITH THE SALIVA TEST AS OPPOSED
TO A URINE TEST. IT IS CHEAPER
AND MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT
ACTUALLY DOES. TEST FOR
INTOXICATION. SO WITH THAT. UM.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY
PRIMARY WITNESS. AND SUPPORT.
FROM CALDERON. VOEPEL NORMAL
THEY'LL GEHRINGER AND IF JAZZY
GREENWALL FROM THE UFCW IS HERE
AS WELL FROM CHASSIS AS WELL.
VERY GOOD WELCOME. YES THANK YOU
. AH HELL, SO, UM YES,
CALIFORNIA NORMAL IS PROUD TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL. CANNABIS IS
LEGAL IN CALIFORNIA, AND WORKERS
HAVE A RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN LEGAL
ACTIVITY WHILE OFF THE JOB. YET
COUNTLESS WORKERS AND JOB
APPLICANTS ARE ROUTINELY DENIED
EMPLOYMENT ON ACCOUNT OF
MISLEADING URINE AND HAIR
METABOLITE TESTS THAT DON'T
DETECT ACTUAL IMPAIRMENT. BUT
RATHER PAST USE OF CANNABIS
STAYS A WEEKS PREVIOUSLY.
METABOLITE TESTS CAN'T DETECT
IMPAIRMENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T
DETECT THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT THC
, BUT RATHER NON PSYCHOACTIVE
BYPRODUCTS THAT LINGER IN THE
BODY DAYS AND WEEKS AFTER
EFFECTS HAVE FADED. IN EFFECT.
METABOLITE URINE TESTS ARE LIKE
LOOKING THROUGH WORKERS TRASH
AND FIRING THEM IF EMPTY, BEER
OR LIQUOR BOTTLES ARE FOUND. OH
A B 21 88 WOULD PROTECT WORKERS
FROM EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION
FOR LEGAL OFF THE JOB USE OF
CANNABIS AND PARTICULAR WOULD
BAN THE METABOLITE TESTING. FOR
CANNABIS EXCEPT WHERE FEDERAL
LAW REQUIRES OTHERWISE, LET ME
SAY THAT THE SCIENCE IS CLEAR
THAT THESE METABOLITES TESTS
HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JOB
SAFETY. NOT A SINGLE FDA STUDY
HAS EVER BEEN CONDUCTED TO FIND
THAT URINE TESTING IS EITHER
SAFE OR EFFECTIVE AT PREVENTING
WORKPLACE ACCIDENTS. NUMEROUS
STUDIES HAVE FOUND OTHERWISE. WE
JUST HAD A SURVEY OF 136,000
CANADIAN WORKERS, WHICH FOUND NO
ASSOCIATION BETWEEN CANNABIS USE
AND WORK RELATED INJURY, EVEN IN
HIGH RISK OCCUPATIONS. WE SAW A
SIMILAR STUDY OF INDIANA COAL
MINERS FINDING THAT THOSE WHO
TESTED POSITIVE FOR CANNABIS IN
THEIR URINE HAD FEWER ACCIDENTS
THAN OTHER WORKERS. LET ME BE
CLEAR, THOUGH. THIS BILL A B 21
88 WOULD IN NO WAY COMPROMISE
EMPLOYERS ABILITY TO ASSURE A
SAFE AND DRUG FREE WORKPLACE
BECAUSE IT DOES ALLOW FOR OTHER
KINDS OF TESTS THAT CAN DETECT
ACTUAL IMPAIRMENT. AND THESE
INCLUDE PERFORMANCE SPACE
PERFORMANCE TESTS THAT YOU DO ON
COMPUTER TABLET THAT ACTUALLY
DETECT IMPAIRMENT OF ALL KINDS
AND ALSO ORAL FLUID AND BLOOD
TESTS THAT DETECT ACTUAL THC,
THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT. OREL
FLUID TESTS ARE LESS INVASIVE,
MORE ACCURATE AND LESS COSTLY
THAN URINE TESTS AND HAVE BEEN
FEDERALLY APPROVED FOR
WORKPLACES. SPY SAMSON.
CONCLUSION LET'S LET ME SAY THAT
URINE TESTS ARE A HIGHLY
OBNOXIOUS INVASION OF WORKERS.
PERSONAL BODILY PRIVACY, THE TOO
FREQUENTLY MISUSED TO
DISCRIMINATE AGAINST UNPOPULAR
WORKERS AND MINORITIES. OVER 20
OTHER STATES HAVE LAWS
PROTECTING EMPLOYMENT RIGHTS OF
LEGAL CANNABIS USERS. IT'S TIME
FOR CALIFORNIA TO FOLLOW SUIT.
WE RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR
SUPPORT FOR A B 21 88. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NEXT I'D LIKE TO CALL
ON JAZZY GRAY WALL. SHE IS ON
THE PHONE. GOOD AFTERNOON
CARRYING MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
JACKIE GRAY WALL, LEGISLATIVE
DIRECTOR WITH THE UNITED STATES
AND COMMERCIAL WORKERS. WESTERN
STATES COUNCIL HERE ON BEHALF OF
OUR 108,000 MEMBERS. THOUSANDS
OF HIM WORK IN THE CANNABIS
INDUSTRY. USB W IS PROUD TO
SUPPORT AND THANK
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S COURT FOR
OFFERING AMY 21 88 WITH
CLARIFIES THAT AN EMPLOYER MAY
NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST AN
EMPLOYEE OR PERSPECTIVE EMPLOYEE
WHO CONSUMED CANADA WHEN THEY
ARE NOT AT WORK. AND PROHIBITS
THE USE OF CANNABIS METABOLITES
, TESTING AND OUTDATED AND
RACIALLY MOTIVATED TEST FOR ALL
EMPLOYERS EXCEPT THOSE WHO ARE
EXEMPTED UNDER FEDERAL LAW FOR
BEING A SAFETY SENSITIVE
POSITIONS. BUT IT'S NOT ON
RECREATIONAL CANNABIS USE IS NOW
LEGAL. IN CALIFORNIA. HOWEVER
MANY PATIENTS AND WORKERS ARE
PROHIBITED FROM USING CANNABIS
PRODUCTS OFF THE JOB FOR FEAR OF
LOSING THEIR CURRENT EMPLOYMENT
OR FINDING FUTURE EMPLOYMENT
BECAUSE OF OUTDATED AND RACIALLY
MOTIVATED METABOLITES TESTING,
WHICH IS INEFFECTIVE AT
DETECTING IMPAIRMENT AFTER
RECENT YEARS. WORKERS INCLUDING
UFCW MEMBERS HAVE LONG SOUGHT
ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TREATMENT
TO OPIOIDS AND OTHER HARSH
PRESCRIPTIONS OR TREATMENTS FOR
PAIN AND OTHER MEDICAL
CONDITIONS SUCH AS CANCER. WE
HAVE WORKERS WHO USE CANNABIS
OFF THE JOB FROM MEDICINAL AND
NON MEDICINAL PURPOSES, BE
DISCIPLINED OR TERMINATED FROM
THEIR EMPLOYMENT WHEN THEY ARE
NOT IMPAIRED AT WORK. WORKERS
WHO HAVE HAD A WORKPLACE INJURY
OCCUR LIKE FALLING OFF A LADDER
DENIED FROM WORKERS'
COMPENSATION CLAIMS BECAUSE THEY
TESTED POSITIVE FOR CANNABIS,
YOUTH DAYS OR WEEKS PRIOR MAYBE
21 88 DOES NOT LIMIT AN
EMPLOYER'S ABILITY TO KEEP A
SAFE AND HEALTHY WORKPLACE. IT
ACTUALLY PROMOTES A SAFE AND
HEALTHY WORKPLACE. THERE ARE
OTHER FORMS OF CANNABIS AND
IMPAIRMENT PASSING AVAILABLE TO
EMPLOYERS. LIKE ORAL SWABS THAT
CAN DETECT USE OF CANNABIS HOURS
PRIOR AND PERFORMANCE BASED
PASSING TO DETECT IMPAIRMENT ON
THE JOB. UNLIKE CANNABIS
METABOLITES TESTING, WHICH
DETECT THESE DAYS OR WEEKS PRIOR
AND NOT ACTUALLY ON SIGHT
IMPAIRMENT WHILE AT WORK.
CALIFORNIA HERE USUALLY LEADS
THE WAY ON CANNABIS ACCESS
TO EMPLOY DISCRIMINATION FROM
MEDICAL AND RECREATIONAL
CANNABIS. USE OFF THE JOB. WE
ARE JUST COMMITTEE TO JOIN THE
20 OTHER 28 OTHER STATES AND
PROTECTING WORKERS BY VOTING I
ON A B 21 88. THANK YOU AND
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
THE COMMITTEE MAY HAVE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WE'RE NOW GOING TO
MOVE ON TO ANY INDIVIDUALS HERE
IN THE ROOM 2100 THAT WOULD LIKE
TO TEST TRY AND SUPPORT. MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS RAND MARTIN ON
BEHALF OF THE PARENT COMPANY AND
VERY STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AMY JENKINS ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA CANNABIS
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION. AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THAT'S NOT
ASKING THE CIA YOU STATE COUNCIL
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? THING THEN
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. IS THERE
ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF A B 21 88? THANK
YOU AND AGAIN, PLEASE PRESS ZERO
AT THIS TIME. FIVE AND Q RIGHT
NOW WE'LL GO TO LINE 78. GOOD
MORNING. CURTIS, PLAYING WITH
THE CALIFORNIA NURSES
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 91 14.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS KEN
WANG ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
EMPLOYMENT LAWYERS ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. IN LINE
94. SARA ARMSTRONG, REPRESENTING
AMERICANS FOR SAFE ACCESS AND
STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. AND
LINE 1 11. GOOD MORNING,
FAMILIAR MEMBERS. PALACIOS TO
DROP POLICY ALLIANCE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 21 88. THANK YOU. LINE 1
19. WHAT IF MY NEAR LINE IS
OPEN? HELLO THIS IS ANGELA WITH
THE LEGAL CONNECTION NETWORK
ASSOCIATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENTS
TO US WITH EXPUNGEMENT. PROCEED
LITIGANTS WHERE SHE WAS LIKE,
LISTEN, WE'RE IN SUPPORT.
CURRENTLY NONE FURTHER. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE
GOING TO MOVE ON TO OPPOSITION.
ROBERT MOOD TREE IS ON THE PHONE
AS THE PRINCIPAL WITNESS IN
OPPOSITION. YOU MAY PROCEED.
THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. ROBERT MOOD TREE,
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
AND WE ARE OPPOSED MAYBE TWO AND
88 AS A JOB KILLER. FIRSTLY UM
AND LEVEL INTO THE HEARING. I
WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF. FIRST I'D
LIKE TO ECHO PARK WORKS THANKS
TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEIR
STAFF. FOR REALLY. THEY REPEATED
IN DETAILED DISCUSSIONS WITH
THEM ON THESE AMENDS, AND ALSO,
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHORS
OFFICE TO REPEATED IN DETAILED
DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BILL
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE REALLY
HAVE A LOT OF WORK. ARE
PERMITTED CONCERNED WITH THIS
BILL, AS WITH SIMILAR
LEGISLATION, OF COURSE, HAS HIS
WORK BY SAFETY, ENSURING THAT
IMPAIRMENT STAYS OUT OF THE
WORKPLACE. WE HAVE NOT OPPOSED
SALIVA TESTING OR MARIJUANA USE
OUTSIDE DOORS. I WANT TO
PHYSICALLY CALL OUT AND
APPRECIATE TO THE AMENDS THAT I
BELIEVE WILL BE TAKEN. WHAT IS
DELAYED IMPLEMENTATION DEAL WITH
A SHORTAGE OF SALIVA TEST ON THE
MARKET RIGHT NOW, THE PRESENT
SUPPLY IS INSUFFICIENT TO MEET
DEMAND, AND THIS BILL WOULD ONLY
INCREASE DEMAND. CONSIDERABLY BY
SWITCHING THE STATE'S WIDER
TESTING EFFECTIVELY. SO WE
APPRECIATE ADDRESSING THAT
SHORTAGE CONCERN. WE ALSO
APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION
AROUND PRE EMPLOYMENT TESTING,
WHICH IS GONNA BE HANDLED THEM
COMING AT MEN'S. UM SO THAT'S
THAT'S THE KEY ISSUE FOR US IN
KEEPING WORKPLACES SAFE. AS DR
QUIRKE MENTIONED, WE ARE FOCUSED
ON AND HOPE TO RESOLVE SOON
LINGERING CONCERNS AROUND THIS
NEW DEFINITION OF BEING, ADDED
WE OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
DEFICIT IS NOT IMPLICITLY CREATE
A RIGHT TO TEST SIMILAR POSITIVE
OR SLIGHTLY POSITIVE, BUT AND
HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT IS
IMPAIRMENT THERE, AND WE'RE
HOPEFUL THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES
ADDRESSED IN OTHER MEN'S OUR
IMPRINT WILL BE ABLE TO
DOWNGRADE THIS BILL OFF OUR JOB
KILLER LIST. HOWEVER AT THIS
POINT WE REMAIN OPPOSED TO A B
218 AS A JOB KILLER AND
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S WORK ON
IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WE WILL NOW SEE IF THERE'S
ANYBODY IN ROOM 2100 THAT WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
MADAM CHAIR CHRIS MCKAY LI ON
BEHALF OF THE OFFICIAL POLICE
GARAGE IS OF LOS ANGELES IN
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. MORNING MADAM CHAIRMAN,
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, BRIAN
LITTLE CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU
AND OPPOSITION FOR THE REASONS
ARTICULATED BY MR MITRI. THANK
YOU. YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE
ANYONE ELSE IN ROOM 2100? THING
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. MODERATOR
PLEASE QUEUE UP ANYBODY THAT
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO 21 88. CERTAINLY
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
AGAINST 10 TO OPPOSE. WE'VE GOT
A NUMBER IN CUBA THAT POOR RIGHT
NOW 56 WILL GO TO OUR 103. THANK
YOU. YES. HELLO CHAIRED MEMBERS
BASEBOARD JUST ON BEHALF OF THE
FAMILY BUSINESS ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA AND THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF JOINT POWERS.
AUTHORITIES RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED
FOR THE REASONS OUTLINED BY MR
MOO TREE. EXCEPT THE LINE 109.
GOOD MORNING. CHUCK MEMBERS
ISN'T MICHAEL MILLER WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF WHITE
GRAPE GROWERS. RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED THE BILL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. BLIND 97. GOOD
MORNING. MATTHEW WELL IN THE
WESTERN GROWERS ASSOCIATION ALSO
OPPOSED TO THE BILL. THANK YOU.
IN 95. NATALIE BALLASTS ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE.
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED TO MAYBE 21
80. AND 108. LAWRENCE GATING
OVER HALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION. WE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED 1 12. GOOD MORNING,
KATIE HAMPSON WITH THE
CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION. WE ARE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED TO 21 88. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND THAT'S THE TIME
THEN FURTHER INTO VERY GOOD.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR TESTIMONY
HERE TODAY WILL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS.
SENATOR LARGE UM, LET ME SAY I
APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF THE
AUTHOR, AND I APPRECIATE OTHER
TESTIMONY, AND THE CHAMBER
PERSON SAID THEY WERE STILL
GOING TO LOOK AT THIS BASED ON
THE AMENDMENTS. AND YOU ACTUALLY
HAVE TO TAKE THE AMENDMENTS IN
THE LABOR COMMITTEE WHERE I'M A
MEMBER. AND I THINK THAT
PROVIDED THERE'S ENOUGH VOTES
HERE. THAT'S THE TIME TO MAKE
THE ASSESSMENT ABOUT. WHETHER
THE AMENDMENTS OF HAVE DEALT
WITH THE OPPOSITION AND SOME OF
THE MAJOR ISSUES AND SO I
APPRECIATE JUST TO CONTINUED
EFFORTS. AND I THINK, UM IS IT
YOUR INTENT TO CONTINUE WORKING
WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE
CONCERNS COMING OUT OF THIS
HEARING? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY THEN
WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT ISN'T LABOR
. PROVIDING YOU HAVE ENOUGH
VOTES HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. VERY GOOD. UM NO OTHER
QUESTIONS. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WORK
YOU MAY CONCLUDE. UM I ASKED FOR
YOUR I VOTE WHEN YOU HAVE A
QUARREL. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO IT LOOKS
LIKE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRAY HAS
CLEARED OUT THE ROOM, SO HE'S
NICE. GOOD WORK. I APPRECIATE
THE FACT THAT, UM YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE TO FINISH BY NOON AND WE'LL
BE BACK AT 1 30. SO, UM
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT
DECIDED TO COME BACK AND
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRAY EUROPE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS.
A B 22 68 IS A DISTRICT BILL
THAT WOULD RENAME THE MERCED
SUPERIOR COURTHOUSE IN HONOR OF
PROFESSOR CHARLES JAMES OGLETREE
JR. FROM VERY HUMBLE BEGINNINGS
IN MY HOMETOWN OF MERCED,
CALIFORNIA PROFESSOR OGLETREE
EMBARKED ON A PROLIFIC CAREER
FOCUSED ON THE ADVANCEMENT OF
CIVIL RIGHTS, RACIAL JUSTICE AND
SOCIAL TOLERANCE. IN ADDITION TO
HIS INFLUENTIAL WRITINGS AS A
LEGAL SCHOLAR, PROFESSOR
OGLETREE INSPIRED GENERATIONS OF
LAW STUDENTS AS A PROFESSOR OF
LAW AT HARVARD. SOME OF THOSE
STUDENTS INCLUDED, UH, NAMES
LIKE PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY
BARACK AND MICHELLE OBAMA. AS A
PUBLIC DEFENDER AND CIVIL RIGHTS
ATTORNEY PROFESSOR OGLETREE
NOTABLY REPRESENTED SURVIVORS OF
THE 1921 TULSA RACE MASSACRE AND
ACTED AS LEGAL COUNSEL TO
PROFESSOR ANITA HILL. DURING THE
CLARENCE THOMAS SENATE
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS. HE
RECEIVED COUNTLESS PETITE,
PRESTIGIOUS AWARDS STRATEGY
CAREER, INCLUDING BEING NAMED
ONE OF THE 100 MOST INFLUENTIAL
LAWYERS IN AMERICA. BY THE
NATIONAL LAW JOURNAL AND BOTH
HARVARD LAW SCHOOL AND C
MERCED HAVE ESTABLISHED ENDOWED
POSITIONS IN HIS HONOR.
PROFESSOR OGLETREE FOUNDED THE
CHARLES HAMILTON HOUSTON
INSTITUTE FOR RACE AND JUSTICE
IN HONOR OF THE LEGENDARY CIVIL
RIGHTS LAWYER AND MENTOR TO SUCH
INFLUENTIAL FIGURES AS THURGOOD
MARSHALL AND OLIVER HILL. HE HAS
BEEN THOUGHT LEADER PUSHING THE
NATIONAL CONVERSATION ON RACE
AND JUSTICE, INCLUDING AS A
LAWYER, COMMENTATOR, PROFESSOR
AND AUTHOR OF SUCH WORKS AS LIFE
WITHOUT PAROLE. AS ONE OF MERCED
COUNTIES, PROUDEST NATIVE SONS
WHO HAS MADE INCREDIBLE
CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARD THE
ADVANCEMENT OF RACIAL JUSTICE
AND THE AMERICAN LEGAL SYSTEM.
THERE IS NO MORE DESERVING
INDIVIDUAL ON WHOM TO BESTOW
THIS PROFESSOR OGLETREE. DESPITE
THE INDISPUTABLE AND
GROUNDBREAKING CONTRIBUTIONS
MADE BY PROFESSOR OGLETREE, THE
JUDICIAL COUNCILS COURTHOUSE
NAMING POLICY PROHIBITS THE
NAMING OF THE MERCED COUNTY
SUPERIOR COURTHOUSE IN HIS
HONOR. THE POLICY ONLY PERMITS
THE NAMING OF COURTHOUSES FOR
PERSONS WHO HAVE BEEN DECEASED
AND HAVE BEEN SO FOR AT LEAST 10
YEARS. A B 22 68 WOULD CREATE AN
EXEMPTION TO THIS POLICY TO
CREATE THE CHARLES JAMES
OGLETREE JR COURTHOUSE. AS NOTED
BY THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS. THERE ARE CURRENTLY 27
, CALIFORNIA COURT HOUSES THAT
HAVE BEEN NAMED IN THE HONOR OF
INDIVIDUALS, THE OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF THEM NAMED FOR WHITE
MEN. AS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM REEXAMINES PRACTICES THAT
HAVE RESULTED IN THE OVER
INCARCERATION OF MINORITY
BLACK MEN. IT WOULD BE FITTING
FOR MORE JUDGES TO CONDUCT THEIR
WORK AND FACILITIES NAME FOR
LEADERS LIKE PROFESSOR OGLETREE.
A B 22 68 IS SPONSORED BY THE
MERCED COUNTY ACP, AS WELL AS
THE AKP CALIFORNIA HAWAII STATE
CONFERENCE AND IS SUPPORTED BY
THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATIVE BLACK
CAUCUS. ON THE PHONE. I AM
DEEPLY HONORED TO HAVE WITH US
TODAY. MRS PAMELA OGLETREE,
SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
VERY GOOD. I'M. UH PAMELA
OGLETREE IF THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
YES. OKAY. HI. MY NAME IS PAMELA
LOCAL TREE. AND I HAVE BEEN
MARRIED TO CHARLES LOCAL TREE
JUNIOR OVER 46 YEARS. WE MET AS
FRESHMEN AT STANFORD UNIVERSITY
IN 1971. I AM DEEPLY GRATEFUL TO
THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
BUT GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY.
TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE
ALTITUDE FAMILY AND ALL THOSE
WHO KNOW AND LOVE TOMORROW. WE
ARE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL.
ASSEMBLYMAN ADAM GRAY FOR
INTRODUCING THE RELATION TO
RENAME THEM COUNTY SUPERIOR
COURTHOUSE IN HONOR OF CHARLES.
WE ARE EQUALLY GRATEFUL TO THE
MERCED AND SEVERAL A C P THE
MERCED COMMUNITY THAT CALIFORNIA
LEGISLATIVE BLACK CAUCUS AND
EVERYONE WHO HAS SUPPORTED THIS
LEGISLATION. THANK THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. BUT
CONSIDERING THIS LEGISLATION AND
I SIMPLY WANT THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO KNOW THAT
I AND THE REST OF CHARLES'S
FAMILY WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT
AND EMBRACED A B 2268. CHARLES
IS IN THE LATTER STAGE OF
ALZHEIMER'S AND IS UNABLE TO
APPRECIATE THIS EFFORT. BUT I
KNOW FROM PAST EXPERIENCE. THAT
HE WOULD BE PROFOUNDLY HUMBLED
BY THE POSSIBILITY. SOMERSET
COUNTY COURT HEIGHTS HOUSE.
MIGHT BE NAMED IN HIS HONOR.
CHARLES LIVED HIS LIFE WITH
STRONG MORAL COMPASS. AND A
FIERCE COMMITMENT TO DOING
EVERYTHING HE COULD DO TO MAKE
LIFE BETTER FOR OTHERS. IS
ACCOMPLISHMENTS OVER HIS LIFE.
WERE ROUTED AND MAKE POSSIBLE BY
THE DIETERS AND NURTURING HE
RECEIVED FROM THE MERCED
COMMUNITY AND HE NEVER FORGOT
IT. BEING BORN IN EXTREME
POVERTY. GIRLS UNDERSTOOD WELL
THAT FOR HIS FAITH AND THE HELP
OF HIS FAMILY AND COMMUNITY. HIS
LIFE AND POTENTIAL COULD HAVE
BEEN LOST. THE DESPAIR, POVERTY
AND JUSTICE OR VIOLENCE. A
COURTHOUSE NAMED IN HIS HONOR.
WITH STAND AS A TESTAMENT TO THE
STRESS OF A COMMUNITY. TO
INSPIRE. AND NURTURE GREATNESS
AND ALL OF US CHILDREN. WE THANK
YOU AGAIN FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK. AND WE HOPE AND PRAY
THAT A B 268 WILL BE PASSED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY. MRS
OGLETREE, WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE
YOU JOIN US, AND, UM, WE ARE. WE
WILL KEEP YOU IN OUR PRAYERS.
ALZHEIMER'S IS A VERY TOUGH
DISEASE, AND I KNOW IT'S VERY
HARD ON THE FAMILY. SO YOU HAVE
OUR PRAYERS IN SUPPORT. WE'RE
GONNA MOVE ON TO SEE IF THERE'S
ANYBODY HERE IN THE ROOM. IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. SEEING
NONE WILL MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. IS THERE
ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO
SUPPORT A B 22 68. AND IF SO,
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
AND WE HAVE NO ONE IN HERE AT
THIS TIME. HOPE WE DO HAVE ONE
HERE. LET ME GO TO BLIND 19.
HELLO. MY NAME IS ANGELA
GRIJALVA AND THEN THE LEGAL
DOCUMENT AT THE SAME HERE IN
SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA AND WE
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND NONE
FURTHER. CURRENTLY VERY GOOD.
WE'RE GONNA SEE IF THERE'S
ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. WE HAVE
NO PRIMARY WITNESSES, SO SEE IF
THERE'S ANYONE IN ROOM 2100.
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. SEE, NONE WILL MOVE
ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE.
MODERATOR IF YOU COULD QUEUE UP
ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO 20 TO
68. INTO A FALSE POLICE PRESS 10
AT THIS TIME. CURRENTLY NOT IN
QUÊ. VERY GOOD WILL BRING THE
MATTER BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU, MAN. I'M GLAD I GOT
HERE JUST IN TIME. SO I WANNA
THANK THE AUTHOR BRINGS FORWARD
. I'D LOVE TO BE ADDED AS A CO
AUTHOR, WHICH I THINK MIGHT BE
IN PROCESS. MOM ALREADY AND I
WAS REALLY EXCITED MYSELF. THIS
BILL BECAUSE PROFESSOR OGLETREE
WITH MY PROFESSOR WHEN I WAS IN
LAW SCHOOL MANY MANY YEARS AGO.
UM, DURING, UM IT WAS A TRIAL
ADVOCACY PROGRAM, BUT HE WAS
ALWAYS COMPLETELY AMAZING. AND
JUST. ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR
PROFESSORS FOR A REASON. AND SO
I THINK THIS IS REALLY SPECIAL,
AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING IT
AND HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL. WHEN
WE GET A QUORUM REQUIREMENT, I
CAN'T DO IT. VERY MUCH. I THINK. THINK SAYING NO OTHER COMMENTS
. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. I'M HONORED TO BE A CO
AUTHOR, AND, UM, REALLY
APPRECIATE. APPRECIATE YOU
RECOGNIZING AN INDIVIDUAL THAT
HAS MADE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE
IN THE LIVES OF PEOPLE. SO WE DO
NOT HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'LL
WAIT. WE'LL HOPEFULLY SOMEONE
WALKING IN THE NEXT MINUTE OR SO
AND WILL ALLOW YOU ALLOW YOU TO
CONCLUDE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
AND THANK YOU SENATORS. CHARLES
OGLETREE WAS WAS A LEGENDARY
FIGURE IN MY SMALL HOMETOWN OF
MERCED, BUT HAD AN IMPACT LARGER
THAN LIFE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY
AND ON THIS NATION'S HISTORY AND
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
MAKE THIS APPROPRIATE. EXCEPTION
TO THE POLICY, TOO. PROVIDE
INSPIRATION TO A NEW GENERATION
OF LEADERS IN THIS COUNTRY AND
RECOGNITION OF AN INCREDIBLE
AMERICAN LIFE LIVED IN
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR ABOUT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHEN WE GET
A QUARTER MILE WILL TAKE THIS
UP. WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE ON
TO FILE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH
IS ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BANTA. THIS
WILL BE THE LAST BILL WE TAKE UP
BEFORE WE RECESS. WE'LL BE BACK
THIS AFTERNOON AT 1 30. UM A B
18 37. WELCOME. THANK YOU. GOOD
EARLY AFTERNOON. THIS CHAIR AND
MEMBERS I WOULD LIKE TO START BY
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENTS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
EXPRESS MY DEEP APPRECIATION TO
THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
HELP WITH THESE AMENDMENTS. THIS
HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A ROAD
AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WITH
THESE AMENDMENTS, THE REALTORS
WILL BE REMOVING THEIR
OPPOSITION FROM THIS BILL. IN
2020 IN RESPONSE TO A GROWING
NUMBER OF CALIFORNIA HOMES BEING
ACQUIRED BY INVESTOR
CORPORATIONS. THE LEGISLATURE
ENACTED SB 10 79. SKINNER WHICH
PROVIDED A SPECIAL WINDOW FOR
RESIDENTS OR NON PROFITS TO
MATCH OR EXCEED THE BID. OF
INVESTORS AT FORECLOSURE
AUCTIONS. HOWEVER DESPITE THIS
LAW, HOUSING ADVOCATES HAVE
OBSERVED OR PROFIT ACTORS
CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS TO DEFY
AND MANIPULATE CURRENT LAW IN
THEIR FAVOR. FOR EXAMPLE, IN
2021, AT LEAST ONE NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA CASE, ALL PRESENT
BIDDERS AT AN AUCTION WERE URGED
TO SIGN A WAIVER FORM ATTESTING.
THEY WERE PERSPECTIVE OWNER
OCCUPANT AND WOULD USE THE
PROPERTY AS THEIR PRIMARY
RESIDENCE, EVEN WHEN CERTAIN
BIDDERS HAD NO INTENTION OF
DOING SO. THESE ACTIONS
EFFECTIVELY PRECLUDED THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ACTUAL
PERSPECTIVE HOMEOWNERS TO PLACE
A BID ON THESE HOMES AND OTHER
CASES ILLEGITIMATE NONPROFITS
PURCHASED THESE HOMES WITH NO
INTENTION OF PROVIDING HOUSING.
FOR THEIR FAMILIES. ONE SUCH
ILLEGITIMATE NONPROFIT FLIPPED
HOME AT A 12% PROFIT AFTER ONLY
OWNING IT FOR A FEW SHORT WEEKS
AND WITHOUT MAKING ANY
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY TO
JUSTIFY THE PRICE INCREASE. MY
BILL 18 37, THE HOMES AND
COMMUNITY HANDS ACT RESOLVES
IMPLEMENTATION GAPS IN THE
EXISTING FORECLOSURE
INTERVENTION LAW. ENSURES
FORECLOSING HOMES FORECLOSED
HOMES BE PRIORITIZED FOR
RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY, NOT
CORPORATIONS. SPECIFICALLY A B
18 37 REVISED THE DEFINITION OF
AN ELIGIBLE, NONPROFIT BUYER
EXPANDS AFFIDAVIT AND
DECLARATION REQUIREMENTS FOR
ELIGIBLE BIDDERS STRENGTHENS AND
FORCE MINT AND REQUIRES THAT IN
SPECIFIC CASES, UNITS BE
MAINTAINED AS AFFORDABLE TO
LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. A B 18
37 IS A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY
FOR A STATE TO PROMOTE
HOMEOWNERSHIP PRESERVATION TO
ENSURE PROPER IMPLEMENTATION,
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STATE
EXISTING FORECLOSURE
INTERVENTION LAW. AND HELP KEEP
HOMEOWNERSHIP AND HOUSING WITHIN
THE REACH OF FAMILIES. THANK
YOU. AND AS WITNESSES WITH ME
TODAY, I HAVE AMY HEINZ KIEV
FROM THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
LAND TRUST NETWORK, A SPONSOR OF
THIS BILL AND MIKE BELOTE WITH
THE UNITED TRUSTEES ASSOCIATION.
IF I COULD INTERRUPT THE
TESTIMONY FOR ONE SECOND, WE
FINALLY HAVE A QUORUM, SO I'D
LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ROLL.
HAMBURG. GORGEOUS COUPLE 00 HERE
SO HERE, GONZALES. THIS YEAR.
HERZBERG JONES LAYERED LAIRD
HERE, STERN. STERN HERE.
WIECKOWSKI SORRY, MCGUIRE.
WIENER. WIENER PRESENT. YOU HAVE
A QUORUM. WE HAVE A QUORUM. VERY
GOOD, SO WE'LL TAKE UP THE
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. AMY HIæN,
SHAKIRA. THANK YOU. HONORABLE
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
AMY HIæN SHAIKH WITH WILDCAT
CONSULTING REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY LAND TRUST
NETWORK. THE COMMUNITY LAND
TRUST MODEL IS BASED ON
ACQUIRING PROPERTY AND
STEWARDING THE LAND AND
PERPETUAL TRUST FOR LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES. WE DO THIS THROUGH
OUR 99 YEAR GROUND LEASE. WE
RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND
UNDERNEATH THE STRUCTURES WE
ACQUIRE AND WE LEASE OR SELL THE
STRUCTURES ON THE TOP OF THE
LAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
NATURALLY WE WERE QUITE EXCITED
WHEN SB 10 79 THE HOUSING FOR
HOMEOWNERS, NOT CORPORATIONS ACT
WENT INTO EFFECT JANUARY 1ST OF
LAST YEAR. ONE AFFILIATE, ONE OF
OUR AFFILIATES, BLTS PARTNERED
WITH TENANT JOCELYN FOREMAN FROM
PINOLE, CALIFORNIA TO ACQUIRE
THE HOME SHE HAD BEEN RENTING AS
THE FIRST KNOWN SB 10 79
ACQUISITION. WE THOUGHT WE COULD
HELP THOUSANDS OF JOCELYN
FOREMAN'S ACROSS THE GREAT STATE
OF CALIFORNIA. WHEN THE
FORECLOSURE INTERVENTION HOUSING
PRESERVATION PROGRAM WAS FUNDED
FOR $500 MILLION IN JUNE OF LAST
YEAR TO HELP NONPROFITS PARTNER
WITH ASPIRING LOW INCOME
HOMEOWNERS TO ACQUIRE PROPERTIES
THROUGH THE SB 10 79 PROCESS.
HOWEVER AN ATTENDING MORE OF
THESE FORECLOSURE AUCTIONS, THE
FRAUD AND ABUSE OF 10 79 BECAME
CLEAR AS THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
BONTA HAD INDICATED. UM. WE
THROUGH ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY
THE FUNDING FOR THE FORECLOSURE
INTERVENTION HOUSING
PRESERVATION PROGRAM. ORIGINALLY
IT WAS 6000 PROPERTIES IN SOME
STAGE OF FORECLOSURE IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA WHEN WE WERE
ACQUIRING THE FUNDING AFTER THE
FORECLOSURE MORATORIUM WAS
LIFTED. IT BECAME 9000 AND TODAY
IS 20,379 PROPERTIES ACROSS THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA, SO THERE'S
MORE AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
FRAUD UNLESS WE CHANGE THIS
PROCESS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE
WORKED WITH PRIOR OPPOSITION TO
A B. 18 37 THE HOMES AND
COMMUNITY HANDS ACT AND ARE
PROUD TO HAVE RESOLVED ALL OF
OUR DIFFERENCES. WE RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST ER, I VOTE. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MIKE BELOTE, SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF THE UNITED TRUSTEES
ASSOCIATION. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF
, UH, THE STORY OF A B 30 18 37
FOR ME IS THIS SB 10 79 SENATOR
SKINNER'S BILL SEEM NARROW, BUT
IT ACTUALLY CREATES A RATHER
COMPLICATED PROCESS THAT HAS TO
BE ADMINISTERED PERFECTLY. AND
THE TRUSTEES THAT I REPRESENT
THE FORECLOSURE TRUSTEES ARE
CHARGED WITH DOING THAT. AND AS
SOON AS THE BILL WAS ENACTED, WE
STARTED SEEING THESE SORT OF
SHADOWY NONPROFIT GROUPS
CONTACTING US AND IN FACT, I GOT
SOME CALLS FROM THESE KIND OF
SKETCHY PEOPLE ASKING EXACTLY
HOW DO HOW DO WE CREATE OUR
NONPROFIT TO FALL INTO THIS LAW?
IN MY VIEW, IT WAS CLEAR THEY
WEREN'T NONPROFITS AT ALL. UH SO
I THINK THE STORY IS VERY SIMPLE
. A B 18 37 HELPS ADDRESS THIS
PROBLEM SO THAT THE SB 10 79
PROCESS CAN WORK AS INTENDED.
AND FOR THAT REASON WE'RE HAPPY
TO SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH LIKE TO INVITE ANYBODY
WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL IN ROOM
2100. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND
MEMBERS CATALINA SANCHEZ WITH
CORBYN AND KAISER ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA LOW INCOME
CONSUMER COALITION AND SUPPORT
OF THE BILL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE
ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT THAT'S IN THE ROOM?
THING. THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE MODERATOR IF
YOU COULD QUEUE UP ANY
INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO
SEE UH TESTIFYING SUPPORT OF A B
18 37. THANK YOU. SO PLEASE
PRESS 10 ACTIVE TÌM. CURRENTLY
JUST WANTED QUÊ. I'LL GO TO LINE
1 18. THEY TOOK THEMSELVES OUT.
NOBODY IN QUÊ CURRENTLY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL MOVE ON TO
OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYBODY? I
DO NOT HAVE ANY, UM, PRIMARY
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION LISTED
BUT LIKE TO FIGHT ANYBODY WHO
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION IN ROOM 2100 TO
PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS PASTOR ANDRE
CHAPEL AND PLEASED TO BE HERE
TOO. UM TO NOT NECESSARILY
OUTSTANDING OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. I THINK IT'S AMAZING AND
SIMPLY WOMAN IS DOING A GREAT
JOB WITH THIS BILL. UH, THE
BILL. UM HAS A COUPLE OF
CHALLENGES THAT I THINK WE WOULD
LIKE TO EXPOSE AND KIND OF TALK
ABOUT, HOPEFULLY THAT THE
COMMITTEE WOULD CONSIDER SOME
AMENDMENTS. UM ONE BEING THE
REALITY THAT BY, UM I PASTOR, A
CHURCH IN SOUTH LOS ANGELES, THE
CRENSHAW DISTRICT AND COMPTON,
WHERE WE ALSO HAVE A NONPROFIT
AFRICAN AMERICAN EMPOWERMENT
COALITION THAT WE SERVE NEARLY
2000 CONSTITUENTS AND IN THE
HARD TO REACH HARDLY REACH
COMMUNITIES. UM THAT ARE IN THAT
IN THAT AREA. MANY OF THOSE
MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY REALLY
DESIRE TO OWN A HOME, SO THIS
BILL IS LIKE IT'S LIKE IT'S IN
WHERE WE COME FROM. WE CALL IT
SUPER DOPE. UM BUT THERE'S A
CHALLENGE TO IT THAT WE SEE
BECAUSE BEING A NONPROFIT MOST
NONPROFITS DO NOT HAVE THE
RESOURCES TO REALLY DO A PROGRAM
THAT CAN SCALE YOU KNOW, REALLY
BUY THESE HOMES AT A LEVEL THAT
WE CAN REALLY HELP OUR
CONSTITUENTS AND THE PORTION OF
THE BILL. THAT SAYS WE CANNOT
YOU KNOW, PARTNER WITH THE
PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS
REALLY PUTS ON IT PUTS A LID ON
THIS. UM AND YOU KNOW IT REALLY
LIMITS OUR ABILITY TO BE
EFFECTIVE. UTILIZING THIS
POWERFUL BUILDING. SO ONE OF THE
THINGS WE WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD
TAKE A LOOK AT IS REALLY YOU
KNOW, ALLOWING US TO GO AHEAD
AND PARTNER WITH SOME THAT WILL
BE SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE. UM THE
PUBLIC PRIVATE GROUPS THAT THAT
WANT TO MERGE WITH US TO SEE
SOME GOOD WORK GET DONE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. AND SO WE ASK THAT
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE
REALLY CONSIDER AMENDING. THAT'S
A STRONG ISSUE. THAT YOU KNOW,
WE WOULD BE GLAD TO SUPPORT IF
WE CAN WORK THAT PEACE OUT WOULD
BE GREAT. UM AND THEN THEN, OF
COURSE, THE OTHER THING THAT WE
REALLY TOOK A LOOK AT IS THE
OTHER 30 YEAR THING LIKE I MEAN,
ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICAN OR BLACK
PERSON, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY 35%
HOMEOWNERS RIGHT NOW, UM, ACROSS
THE GLOBE, WE ARE THE LOWEST ON
THE TOTEM POLE WHEN IT COMES
HOME OWNERSHIP AND THE WAY THAT
ANYBODY CAN REALLY GET THEIR
LIFE. TO A LEVEL THAT WE'RE
BUILDING GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
BLACK FAMILIES ARE GROWING IS
HOME BUYING, BUT I MEAN, IF WE
BUY A HOUSE WE DON'T WANT TO.
IT'S JUST LIKE PAYING RENT IF WE
CAN'T SELL IT AND GET THE EQUITY
OUT OF IT FOR 30 YEARS, WE'RE
STILL IN THAT SAME THAT SAME
CYCLE AND SO HELP US. IS WHAT
WE'RE ASKING FOR. JUST HELP US
HOME AS A LOAD AMOUNT OF INCOME
HOME BUYER AND IT GROWS IN
INTEREST, AND MY NEIGHBORS ARE
MAKING MONEY. WHY CAN'T WE MAKE
MONEY TOO? IF WE GET ONE OF
THESE HOUSES? SO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY, VERY
MUCH. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
FAITH, MULTI STA AND THE CEO OF
THE NATIONAL ASIAN AMERICAN
COALITION AND NATIONAL DIVERSITY
COALITION. THERE'S 20 OF US HERE
. WE'VE BEEN BUYING COUNSELING.
HOMEOWNERS HOMEBUYERS FOR 20
YEARS AND WE ADMIRE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BOB ROB BONTA
PUTTING THIS 18 37. WE DON'T
HAVE A LOBBYISTS OR WE DON'T YOU
KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE LAWYERS THAT
CAN UM, PUT THIS TOGETHER. SO
WHAT WE'RE ASKING RIGHT NOW IS
THE AMENDMENT, UM IN IN SECTION
NUMBER FOUR IS TO HELP BUILD
GENERATIONAL WEALTH IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. WE ARE RECOMMENDING
THE REMOVAL OF SECTION FOR WHICH
REQUIRES ALL PROPERTIES. SUPPORT
IS UNDER THIS PROGRAM TO BE
CONVERTED INTO AFFORDABLE
HOUSING UNITS FOR AT LEAST 30
YEARS. A NUMBER TWO IS TO BETTER
EMPOWER NONPROFITS. WE PROPOSED
TO UPDATE THE DEFINITION OF AN
ELIGIBLE BIDDER AS AN LLC TO
OTHER PRAISE OR MANAGED BY AN
ELIGIBLE NONPROFIT IN SECTION
THREE. THIS ENSURES THAT
NONPROFITS GUIDES THE MISSION
OUTCOMES OF THE PROGRAM WHILE
ALLOWING FINANCIAL STRUCTURES TO
FUND THE PURCHASE OF THE
PROPERTIES FOR THE LONG TERM
SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH
STRONGLY ENCOURAGED AN ADVOCATE
FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS
TO DO TO THE CAPITAL CONSTRAINTS
THAT MUST NONPROFITS HAVE
NONPROFITS. MOST NONPROFITS
COULD NOT BUY THE PROPERTIES WE
ALWAYS HAVE TO PARTNER FOR.
CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBLE FOR
PROFIT. THERE ARE SO MANY
PRIVATE EQUITY RIGHT NOW THAT
ARE JUST BUYING THE HOMES AND
NOT SERVING THE HOMEOWNERS, BUT
WE KNOW ALL THE ALL THE
NONPROFITS THERE ARE SUPPORTING
THIS BILL UNDERSTAND THE
PARTNERSHIP OF FOR PROFIT. BUT
WE ALSO KNOW THE RESPONSIBLE FOR
PROFIT. SO WHAT I'M ASKING FROM
ALL OF YOU IS IF YOU REALLY
TRULY WANT TO HELP US, AND THIS
IS WHAT WE DO EVERY SINGLE DAY
WE HELPED 1500 BORROWERS EVERY
MONTH, AND THAT'S A LOT FOR A
NONPROFIT BECAUSE WE SERVED THE
WHOLE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND
THE ACCESS TO CAPITAL. UM THE
SUPPLY IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM
RIGHT NOW. THE S B 10 79 WAS
PERFECT FOR US. THIS ONE IS GOOD
, BUT WITHOUT THE AMENDMENT IS
GOING TO BE HARDER FOR THE NON
PROFITS TO BUY. THIS WORK THIS
PROPERTIES AND SELL IT TO FIRST
TIME HOME BUYER AND CREATE MORE
JOB, SO PLEASE TAKE
CONSIDERATION THAT TWO
AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE ASKING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NOW IF INDIVIDUALS
WANT TO, UH UH, TESTIFY THEY
NEED TO GIVE THEIR NAME AND
THEIR AFFILIATION AND THAT AND
YOUR OPINION IS SUPPORT OR
OPPOSE. THANK YOU, SENATOR. UM
JACK MIRANDA. I'M A COMMUNITY
PASTOR IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
AND AGAIN, ONE WIGGLE BETWEEN
THE FOUR AND AGAINST WITH THE
AMENDMENT. BASICALLY WHAT YOU'VE
HEARD. WE LOVE THAT MIA. UH WANT
TO. AH ON HER IN HER OWN, RIGHT?
WE WELL, WE LIKE IT. WE LIKE IT,
AND I WOULD JUST ECHO WHAT MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID FROM THE
FAKE COMMUNITY. MANY OF THE
CHURCHES THAT I REPRESENT JUST
YOUR IDENTIFICATION. WE'VE HEARD
THE TWO WITNESSES IN A POSITION.
CERTIFICATE JUST SAY YOUR NAME
AND THAT YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION.
VERY GOOD. AND I CAN I QUALIFY
THAT THAT I'M RIGHT IN THE
MIDDLE THERE LIKE THE AMENDMENTS
. ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.
NAME AFFILIATION AND WHETHER
YOU'RE OPPOSED OR SUPPORT MY
NAME IS ARIEL BAUTISTA MCCARTHY
AND WITH THE NATIONAL DIVERSITY
COALITION AND WE ARE HERE TO
AMEND THE BILL. VERY GOOD. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. HI. GOOD MORNING
JUNKIE DOLLAR OC, A SACRAMENTO
CHAPTER AND I MEANT THE BILL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO. I'M
JENNIFER WHEATLEY FROM
NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT CORPORATION
. AND I'M HERE TO AMEND THE
BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
. MY NAME IS PRACTICALLY FROM
THE NATIONAL DIVERSITY COALITION
I AM HERE TO WITH THE
AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. MY NAME
IS TYLER WHEATLEY AMAYA. I'M
WITH NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION
CAPITAL MANAGEMENT AND TO AMEND
FOR THE AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU.
HELLO I'M ESSENES NICHOLS FROM
THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COALITION.
AND I AM SUPPORTING THE
AMENDMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY
NAME IS NORA PANDA FLOOR FROM
NATIONAL ASIAN AMERICAN
COALITION AND I'M HERE TO
SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU. I
AM NO MEAT TO BORROW FROM
NATIONAL ASIAN AMERICAN
COLLISION IN ONE OF THEIR
HOUSING COUNSELOR, AND I'M HERE
TO AMEND TO SUPPORT THE AMEND
THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. HELLO MY NAME IS GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KAREN
GHETTOS. I'M WITH PIKES PEAK
CAPITAL. AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF
THE AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO MY NAME IS
AMY MAKARY GAME. ONE OF THE
CLIENTS OF A CC. I'M HERE TO
SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
I'M RICHARD PALLIUM, THE
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF
NATIONAL ASIAN AMERICAN
COALITION, AND I'M HERE TO
SUPPORT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI.
MY NAME'S ALSO CASTILLO,
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR LATINO
COMING TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY
NAME IS ALEX ANDERSON WITH NDC
AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THEM IN
BILL. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE
ELSE? I THINK SEEING NONE HERE
IN THE ROOM. I WANT TO, UM, ASK
THE MODERATED TO PLEASE CHECK
THE LINE TO SEE IF THERE'S
ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. SO
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME
AGAIN, IT'S 10. AND GIVE ME A
MOMENT HERE. RIGHT NOW. WE JUST
HAVE ONE. I'LL GO TO LINE 44.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MATT PIERRE AND
MEMBERS KAREEM GREASY ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
REALTORS. CR IS REMOVING ITS
OPPOSITION TO A B 18 37 AS
PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED BY THE
COMMITTEE'S ANALYSIS. ONCE THOSE
AMENDMENTS ARE IN PRINT, AND WE
WISH TO SINCERELY THANK THE
AUTHOR, SPONSOR AND COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US TO
ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS. WE GREATLY
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU. CURRENTLY NOT
FURTHER IN. Q THANK YOU VERY
MUCH WILL BRING THE MATTER BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS
ARE CONCERNS MOVED THE BILL.
THERE IS A MOTION.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S I, YOU KNOW. IT
APPEARS AS IF THE ISSUES THAT
WERE RAISED BY THE LAST GROUP OF
INDIVIDUALS HAVE NOT BEEN RAISED
HERE IN THE COMMITTEE, BUT I AM
I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THE WHOLE
ISSUE OF KEEPING SOMETHING
AFFORDABLE DESPITE THE FACT THAT
THE INDIVIDUALS ARE PAYING THE
THEY'RE MORE LIKE RENTERS THAN
THAN INVESTORS IN THEIR OWN HOME
, SO I'M I'M SENSITIVE TO THE
ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED. UM ARE
YOU WILLING TO MEET WITH SOME OF
THEM AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT
? UM ABOUT THE BILL? AND MAYBE
IF IT'S NOT THIS BILL, SOMETHING
IN THE FUTURE ABSOLUTELY,
ACTUALLY OVER 60, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, TENANT AND COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN IN
SUPPORT OF THIS. THIS PARTICULAR
LINE OF SUPPORTED AMENDMENTS ARE
ACTUALLY THE FIRST THAT WE ARE
HEARING, I THINK IN ALL
COMMITTEES, POLICY COMMITTEES,
APPROPRIATIONS IN ANY WORK THAT
MY STAFF HAS DONE ON THIS BILL.
AND COMMITTEE HIS STAFF HAS DONE
ON THIS BILL, AND WE ALWAYS WILL
, UH, BE ENCOURAGED TO WORK WITH
ANY ANY SUPPORTERS WHO END
OPPOSITION WHO WOULD REQUIRE ANY
KIND OF AMENDMENTS TO THIS BILL.
THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GREAT. I
THINK THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO. IT'S
NOT UNUSUAL FOR LAST MINUTE
OPPOSITION TO POP UP THAT COMES
OUT OF LEFT GIRL. BUT IT JUST,
UM TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN
HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, WE
CAN UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT
BETTER, HOW THEY WOULD OPERATE
AND HOW IT WOULD WORK. SO I DO
APPRECIATE THAT. THERE IS A
MOTION THAT ALLOW YOU TO
CONCLUDE. THANK YOU. WHEN THE
LEGISLATURE ENACTED THE EXISTING
FORECLOSURE INTERVENTION LAW IN
2020, THE INTENT WAS TO ENSURE
INVESTOR CORPORATIONS WERE NOT
ALLOWED TO CAPITALIZE ON
FORECLOSURE CRISIS LIKE THEY DID
IN 2000 AND EIGHT WHICH LED TO
THE DISPLACEMENT OF COMMUNITY
MEMBERS, INCREASED HOMELESSNESS
AND A MASSIVE LOSS OF BLACK AND
LATINO WEALTH IN OUR
COMMUNITIES, AND IN FACT, WE
HAVE A VEHICLE NOW TO BE ABLE TO
ALLOW LEGITIMATE NON PROFITS TO
BE ABLE TO INCREASE THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK. WITH
UH WITH THIS A B 18 37 IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING
LAW AND THIS IS A NECESSARY NEXT
STEP TO STRENGTHEN THIS EXISTING
LAW AND ENSURE HOMES ARE
PRIORITIZED FOR OUR FELLOW
COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITH THAT I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSES AMENDED, BUT FOR SOME MEN
AND RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS HAMBURG.
GORGEOUS CABALLERO CABALLERO. I
DURAZO GONZALES. GONZALES I
HERZBERG JONES LEERED LAYERED. I
MCGUIRE STERN. STERN I WIENER
WIENER, I YOU HAVE 6 TO 0 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING. 6 TO 0. WE WILL
PUT THIS ON CALL FOR THE MISSING
MEMBERS AND THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE WILL NOW BE IN RECESS
UNTIL 1 30 THIS AFTERNOON.
BIRKIN. WHEN WE RETURN AT 1 30,
WE WILL TAKE UP.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MAN SHINES
BILL.
CERVANTES IS ALSO HERE. SO IF
THE PERSON WHO IS IN BETWEEN YOU
AND FILER DOESN'T SHOW UP.
YOU'LL BE NEXT. SIMILAR MEMBERS
OF DANTE'S ALL RIGHT. A B 66
EXCUSE ME, 16 63. BILE ITEM
NUMBER 34. REJECT ME TO BEGIN.
MR CHAIR. YES OKAY. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. LONG TIME. NO SEE, AS
YOU SAID THAT. IT'S GOOD TO SEE
YOU AGAIN TODAY. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I WANT TO
BEGIN BY ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS AS PROPOSED IN THE
ANALYSIS AND THANKING COMMITTEE%
STAFF AND THE STAKEHOLDERS FOR
THEIR TIRES. TIRELESS WORK ON
THIS BILL. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE
TODAY TO PRESENT A B 16 63 THE
PROBATE CONSERVATORSHIP REFORM
AND SUPPORTED DECISION MAKING
ACT. THE BILL HAS TWO MAJOR
COMPONENTS FIRST JOINED 18 OTHER
STATES AND CODIFYING THE PROCESS
OF SUPPORTED DECISION MAKING.
SUPPORTED DECISION MAKING ALLOWS
ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES TO
IDENTIFY TRUSTED SUPPORTERS TO
HELP THEM UNDERSTAND, MAKE
COMMUNICATE AND ACT ON THEIR OWN
CHOICES. THIS PROCESS PROVIDES
SUPPORT WHILE PROTECTING AN
INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHTS AND AUTONOMY
OVER THEIR LIVES. SUPPORTED
DECISION MAKING IS A CONCEPT
THAT WE ALL USE. WE SEEK ADVICE
FROM OUR FRIENDS AND OUR FAMILY
TO HELP US MAKE INFORMED
CHOICES, AND WE DON'T LOSE THE
ABILITY TO MAKE HER OWN
DECISIONS JUST BECAUSE WE SEEK
HELP FROM OUR SUPPORT NETWORK.
ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES DESERVE
THE SAME RIGHT. IN ADDITION TO
RECOGNIZING SUPPORTED DECISION
MAKING A B 16 63 ALSO MAKES
VITAL AND LONG OVERDUE REFORMS
TO THE PROBATE DECISION MAKING
MAKING PROCESS. MOST OF US ARE
FAMILIAR WITH PROBATE DECISION
MAKING. AND MOST OF US EXCUSE ME
ARE FAMILIARWITH PROBATE
CONSERVATORSHIPS THROUGH THE
BRITNEY SPEARS 13 YEAR BATTLE TO
END HER CONSERVATIVE SHIP AND
THE RESULTING DOCUMENTARY.
HOWEVER THOSE WHO ARE MOST
LIKELY TO ENTER INTO PROBATE
CONSERVATIVE SHIP FOR PEOPLE
WITH INTELLECTUAL AND
DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AS
WELL AS THOSE WITH AGE RELATED
DISABILITIES, SUCH AS DEMENTIA,
OR ALZHEIMER'S. PRIOR TO MY TIME
IN THE LEGISLATURE, I CLERKED
FOR SAN DIEGO SUPERIOR COURT
JUDGE WHO OVERSAW CONSERVATIVE
SHIPS IN THE MENTAL HEALTH
CALENDAR. I SAW HOW EASY IT IS
TO ENTER A PROBATE
CONSERVATORSHIP HOW DIFFICULT IT
IS TO LEAVE. AND THE POTENTIAL
FOR ABUSE. WHEN A PERSON ENTERS
A CONSERVATIVE SHIP, ALL RIGHTS
AND LIBERTIES ARE TAKEN AWAY
FROM THEM AND PLACED IN THE
CONTROL OF THE CONSERVATOR. IF
THE COURT IS GOING TO MAKE A
DECISION TO STRIP A PERSON OF
THEIR CIVIL LIBERTIES, IT IS
IMPERATIVE THAT IT BE DONE AS A
LAST RESORT. A B 16 63 6 TO
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS
WHO LOSE THEIR RIGHTS UNDER
CONSERVATIVE SHIP BY REQUIRING
COURTS TO CONSIDER SUPPORTED
DECISION MAKING IS THE LESS
RESTRICTIVE ALTERNATIVE. FOR
THOSE WHO ARE PLACED ON
CONSERVATIVE SHIP MAYBE 16 63
INSURERS, CONSERVATIVES MAINTAIN
A CHOICE IN THEIR LIVES BY
REQUIRING CONSERVATIVES TO
CONSULT WITH THE CONSERVATIVE
AND DECISIONS MADE ON THEIR
BEHALF. AND TO THE GREATEST
EXTENT POSSIBLE ACT IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE
CONSERVATIVES STATED PREFERENCES
. LASTLY THIS BILL WILL MAKE
CONSERVATIVE SHIPS EASIER TO END
, ENSURING CONSERVATIVES ARE
REGULARLY INFORMED OF THEIR
RIGHTS, WHICH INCLUDE THE RIGHT
TO A HEARING OF THE CONSERVATIVE
REQUEST TO TERMINATE
CONSERVATIVE SHIP. UNFORTUNATELY
DESPITE THE EXISTENCE OF
MEANINGFUL ALTERNATIVES, MANY
FAMILIES ENTER INTO CONSERVATIVE
SHIPS BECAUSE THEY ARE
ERRONEOUSLY TOLD IT IS THE ONLY
OPTION TO PROTECT THEIR LOVED
ONES. THIS BILL CREATES TWO
VITAL EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS TO
HELP INFORM FAMILIES ABOUT
SUPPORTED DECISION MAKING. AND
DIVERT INDIVIDUALS AWAY FROM
CONSERVATORSHIPS IF OTHER
ALTERNATIVES ARE MORE
APPROPRIATE. A B 16 63 IS VITAL
HUMAN RIGHTS LEGISLATION TO
PROTECT AN INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHT TO
MAKE DECISIONS OVER THEIR LIVES.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE. WITH ME ON THE PHONE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT ARE TIM CHEN
, A SELF ADVOCATE WITH
DISABILITY VOICES UNITED AND SO
WE BRENNAN CRONE, A STAFF
ATTORNEY WITH A DISABILITY
RIGHTS PROGRAM AT THE TH.
THANK YOU. SOME OF THEIR
MAIENSCHEIN. MR. JIN, IF YOU'RE
ON THE PHONE IF YOU IDENTIFY
YOURSELF MY NAME IS TIM KING AND
I LIVE IN FOUNTAIN VALLEY. I AM
ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
SENATOR EMBURGH. I'M A 47 YEAR
OLD KOREAN AMERICAN MAN WHO HAS
CEREBRAL POVERTY. I AM USING A
COMMUNICATION DEVICE AT THE BASE
OF MY WHEELCHAIR BY TYPING WITH
MY TOES. WHEN I TURNED 18 I
THOUGHT ABOUT CONSERVING ME
NEVER CROSSED MY APPARENT MIND
BECAUSE THEY SAW ME NO
DIFFERENTLY THAN MY ABLE BODIED
BROTHERS. MY PARENTS GAVE ME
FREE WILL AND I LEARNED FROM MY
MISTAKES. AND I HAVE MADE MY
FAIR SHARE OF MISTAKES. MY MOM
AND DAD UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY
SHOULD NOT CONTROL MY LIFE. AND
THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT THE
COURT SYSTEM TO BE INVOLVED.
WHEN MY CHILDHOOD FRIENDS WITH
DISABILITIES GREW UP, MANY OF
THEM WERE CONSERVED BY THEIR
PARENTS. THE PARENTS WERE TOLD
TO DO THIS BY PEOPLE THEY
RESPECT LIKE TEACHERS, DOCTORS
AND THERAPISTS. WE DIDN'T KNOW
THERE COULD BE ANOTHER WAY. BUT
IT NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME OR MY
PARENT. WHY TAKE AWAY SOMEONE'S
RIGHTS IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEM?
THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT
OPTIONS TO MAINTAIN THE SAFETY
OF YOUR LOVED ONES WHILE KEEPING
THE COURTS OUT OF THEIR LIVES.
I'VE BEEN LIVING ON MY OWN WITH
THE ASSISTANCE FROM STAFF FOR
OVER 20 YEARS. I HAVE MONEY
ABILITIES, BUT I NEED SUPPORT
EVERY SINGLE DAY IN ORDER TO
LIVE MY LIFE. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE
WITH DISABILITIES WHO GET HELP
FROM OTHERS IN THEIR CIRCLE TO
LIVE THEIR LIVES. HOW THEY WANT
TO. THEY DON'T NEED
CONSERVATORSHIP. EVERYONE NEEDS
SUPPORT FOR SOMETHING. EVEN
ELECTED OFFICIALS, RIGHT? WE ALL
HAVE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES
AND SUPPORT IS WHAT WE USED TO
HELP US MEET OUR GOALS. THIS IS
WHY A B 16 63 IS SO IMPORTANT.
IT TELLS THE WORLD THAT PEOPLE
WITH DISABILITIES CAN MAKE
DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR LIVES, BUT
WE JUST NEED THE RIGHT KIND OF
SUPPORT THAT WORKS FOR US
PUTTING SUPPORTED DECISION
MAKING INTO LAW IN CALIFORNIA
AND REFORMING OUR
CONSERVATORSHIP SYSTEM IS A GAME
CHANGER FOR PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES. IT WILL BE GREAT
ADVANCEMENT IN OUR HUMAN RIGHTS.
I HIRED YOU TO PASS THIS
HISTORIC, CIVIL AND DISABILITY
RIGHTS BILL. THANK YOU TO
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MAIENSCHEIN FOR
BEING OUR CHAMPION. THANK YOU TO
EVERYONE LISTENING TO ME TODAY.
THANK YOU, MR JIN. NEXT, MISS.
ZERO BRENNAN CRONE YES. THE
FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ZOE
BRENNAN. CRONE I'M A STAFF
ATTORNEY AT THE A. C L U
DISABILITY RIGHTS PROGRAM IN SAN
FRANCISCO, TESTIFYING IN FAVOR
OF ABC IN 63. THIS IS A CRITICAL
CIVIL RIGHTS AND DISABILITY
RIGHTS BILL. IT RECOGNIZES
SUPPORTED DECISION MAKING IN LAW
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THIS
STATE. PORTED DECISION MAKING IS
A FLEXIBLE, VOLUNTARY WAY FOR
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND
OLDER ADULTS TO MAKE, UNDERSTAND
, COMMUNICATE AND IMPLEMENT
THEIR OWN CHOICES. WITH
SUPPORTED DECISION MAKING PEOPLE
CHOOSE TRUSTED SUPPORTERS AND
STRENGTHEN THEIR AUTONOMY RATHER
THAN GIVING UP THEIR RIGHTS.
LEARNING TO MAKE HEALTHY, SAFE
DECISIONS THE SAME WAY WE ALL DO
GUIDANCE AND PRACTICE. 18 STATES
IN SEVERAL COUNTRIES ALREADY
HAVE LAWS RECOGNIZING SDM
SUPPORTED DECISION MAKING. AND A
B 16 63 WOULD ADD CALIFORNIA TO
THAT GROWING LIST. 18 16 63 ALSO
MAKES CHANGES WITHIN THE PROBATE
CONSERVATORSHIP SYSTEM TO ENSURE
THAT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES
AND OLDER ADULTS ARE NOT
UNNECESSARILY CAUGHT IN
CONSERVATORSHIP WHEN OTHER LESS
RESTRICTIVE OPTIONS ARE
AVAILABLE. THE LAW ALREADY
REQUIRES THIS JUDGES MAY ONLY
IMPOSE OR MAINTAIN
CONSERVATORSHIP. WHEN DOING SO
IT'S THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE
OPTIONS. FOR TOO OFTEN, PEOPLE
ARE TOLD THAT CONSERVATORSHIP IS
THE ONLY OPTION AND PEOPLE LOSE
THEIR RIGHTS, LIBERTIES AND
CIVIL PERSONHOOD UNNECESSARILY
AND OFTEN PERMANENTLY. A B 16 63
WILL FIX SOME OF THE PROBLEMS
WITHIN THE PROBATE
CONSERVATORSHIP SYSTEM. THAT
WILL ENSURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE
ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND
RESOURCES ABOUT A RANGE OF
OPTIONS THAT ARE LESS INVASIVE,
LESS PERMANENT AND OFTEN SAFER
THAN CONSERVATORSHIP, INCLUDING
SUPPORTED DECISION MAKING. THAT
WILL CREATE A MEANINGFUL PATHWAY
OUT OF CONSERVATORSHIP FOR THOSE
WHO WANT TO REGAIN THEIR RIGHTS.
HE CHANGES WILL NOT END OR FOR
CLOTHES CONSERVATORSHIP. THAT
THEY WILL MAKE REAL THE PROMISE
ALREADY IN LAW THAT
CONSERVATORSHIP THE LAST RESORT
RATHER THAN THE FIRST RESORT. I
ARGUE TO SUPPORT THIS IMPORTANT,
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ALRIGHT THOSE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 16 63 OR HERE IN THE
COMMITTEE ROOM. PLEASE APPROACH
THE MICROPHONE, SAYING NO ONE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE.
NEXT, LET'S TURN TO THE PHONE
LINES FOR THOSE MODERATOR IN
SUPPORT OF A B 16 63. THANK YOU
. AND IF SO, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME AGAIN, JUST 10. AND
WE'LL GO FIRST TO LINE 1 50.
GOOD AFTERNOON, REBECA GONZALEZ
FOR THE NATIONALIST STATION OF
SOCIAL WORKERS. CALIFORNIA SHOP
DURING SUPPORT. THANK YOU. 1 68.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS GREGORY CRAMER ON BEHALF
OF DISABILITY RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA
AND WE'RE PROUD TO SPONSOR THIS
MEASURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ONE OF ONE OF SIX. GOOD
AFTERNOON, JOSH DUGGAR ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COMMUNITY LIVING NETWORK, CO
SPONSOR OF THE MEASURE IN
SUPPORT. THANKS. THANK YOU. 1
65. HI. THAT FRANCISCO WAS
EXCEPTIONAL AND THE PARENT
PRACTICING SUPPORTED DECISION
MAKING WITH MY SCREEN ON
SPEAKING, I DON'T CHILDREN AND I
AM PRESIDENT OF EXCEPTIONAL
RIGHT CITY. I'M IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF 80 16 63. THANK YOU.
I'M ONE 52ND. GOOD AFTERNOON.
THIS IS TONY CHICK. IT'LL FROM
CALIFORNIA ADVOCATES FOR NURSING
HOME REFORM WILL CORRESPOND TO
THE BILL IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU IN 1 60. GOOD
AFTERNOON, ANOTHER PARENT OF A
YOUNG MAN WITH AN INTELLECTUAL
DISABILITY AND THE CO FOUNDER OF
THE INTEGRATED COMMUNITY
COLLABORATIVE, REPRESENTING OVER
1700 FAMILIES WITH AN INDIVIDUAL
DISABILITY. IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THE 16 63. THANK YOU. 1 57. GOOD
AFTERNOON. THIS IS BRIDGET
COLAKOVSKI FOR THE STATE COUNCIL
AND DEVELOPMENT ON DISABILITIES
. WE ARE STATE AGENCY ADVOCATING
FOR CHANGE AND WE ARE SPONSORED
ON A B 16 63. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION ON THIS IMPORTANT
BILL. 1 58. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS
IS DAN OCON FUSS. I AM WITH THE
CALIFORNIA FOUNDATION FOR
INDEPENDENT LIVING CENTERS, AND
I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT FOR A B
1663. 1 64. MY NAME IS MONICA
RANIA AND THE FAMILY MEMBER OF
AN ADULT WITH INTELLECTUAL AND
DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY CALLING
IN FAVOR OF A B 16 63. AND 1 73.
1 73. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. THANK
YOU. THIS IS JUDY MAR, PRESIDENT
OF DISABILITY VOICES UNITED AND
THAT PARENT OF A 25 YEAR OLD SON
WITH AUTISM AND PRACTICES
SUPPORTED DECISION MAKING,
SPONSOR AND STRONG SUPPORT OF A
B 16 63. 1 53 3. YES. HELLO MY
NAME IS MICHELLE LIUKKO. I AM A
SELF ADVOCATE CALLING GOING TO
PUT A B 1663. 1 69. HELLO MY
NAME IS ANGELA IN WITH THE LEGAL
CONNECTION NETWORK. WE ARE LEGAL
DOCUMENTS ASSISTANCE TO SUPPORT
PRO SE LITIGANTS AND FAMILY
MEMBERS WHO OFTEN HAVE TO SPEAK
OF ASSISTANCE. AND WE ARE VERY,
VERY STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
1 75. HELLO MY NAME IS BAILEY
AGAIN. I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA ADVOCATES FOR NURSING
HOME REFORM. WE ARE CO SPONSORS
OF A B 16 60 63. WE'RE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. IN 1 61.
LINE 1 61. WE'LL MOVE TO LINE 1
63. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
GILDA HEAD ON AND I'M WITH THE
BENEFIT ASSOCIATION AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF A B 16 16 60 DEGREE.
THANK YOU. HELLO MODERATE. KÞT
GIVE US AN IDEA HOW MANY FOLKS
ARE IN THE QUEUE? ACTUALLY KNOWS
HER LAST ONE. WELL WHAT A QUICK
LINK. ALRIGHT. NOW FOLLOW THE
SAME PROTOCOL WILL BE MOVING ON
TO FOLKS IN OPPOSITION. MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE
NO PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. UM SO LET'S BRING IT
BACK TO ROOM 2100 ANY FOLKS
WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
TO 16 63, PLEASE APPROACH THAT
THE SREEN. SEEING NONE. UM
MODERATOR MOVING BACK TO YOUR
COURT. DO YOU HAVE ANY FOLKS? UH
QUEUING UP IN OPPOSITION. AND IF
SO, PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW MANY
AND REMIND THEM THAT THEY NEED
TO ONLY PRESENT THEIR NAME,
AFFILIATION AND POSITION. AND
THANK YOU RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT
ONE AND Q. I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY
ELSE THAT'S 10 TO OPPOSE. HERE.
GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT. WE CAN
OPEN LINE 1 62. HAPPENING MR
CHAIR MEMBERS, TERESA ANDERSON
ON BEHALF OF THE ART AND UNITED
CEREBRAL PALSY CALIFORNIA
COLLABORATION, AND WE HAVE IT
NOW POSING LESS AMEND POSITION
ON THE BILL. THANK YOU. IN
CURRENTLY NO OTHERS AND QUÊ,
OKAY? ALRIGHT WE WILL BRING IT
BACK TO THE DAIS. HOUSEKEEPING
JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH
THE AUTHOR WHERE THEIR
AMENDMENTS PROPOSED IN. IF SO,
HAVE YOU ACCEPTED THEM FROM THE
COMMITTEE? ALRIGHT BRING IT BACK
TO THE DAYS ANY OF OUR
COLLEAGUES WISHING TO SPEAK OR
POST QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE. DO
WE HAVE A MOTION? FROM SOMEONE.
ALRIGHT WITH THAT
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MAIENSCHEIN.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFER CLOSING
COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. CHAIR MEMBERS, BRITNEY
SPEARS HAD THE BENEFIT OF
WORLDWIDE FAME TO SHINE A LIGHT
ON HER CASE, BUT THERE ARE
COUNTLESS OTHERS WHO ARE TRAPPED
IN THE SAME SYSTEM. THAT STRIPS
THEM OF THEIR IDENTITY. A B 16
63 IS ABOUT EXTENDING A VOICE TO
THOSE WITHOUT THE SAME PLATFORM.
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR I VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. AND MADAM CLERK.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO WE HAVE A
MOTION. I BELIEVE IT WAS BY
SENATOR GONZALEZ. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMEND AND WE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON HUMAN
SERVICES HAMBURG. GORGEOUS
CABALLERO, GRASSO. Hí
SALAS? AYE, HERZBERG JONES
LAYERED FLARED. I'M ACQUIRE
STERN STERN, I WIENER. ALRIGHT 5
TO 0 WITH MEMBERS MISSING. KEEP
THAT ON ON HOLD AND WILL BE
MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM TENDS A
LITTLE OUT OF ORDER HERE. ALL
RIGHT. ASSEMBLYWOMAN CERVANTES A
B 24 66. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE
ARE ANY AMENDMENTS. CAN YOU
CONFIRM THAT? THERE ARE NO
AMENDMENTS. OKAY THE ELECTORATE
IS YOURS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
AND SENATORS FOR ALLOW ME TO
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL 24 66
TODAY. FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS
, WE HAVE WITNESSED A RECORD
BREAKING NUMBER OF ANTI LGBTQ
MEASURES PROPOSED IN PASS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY. IN JUST THE FIRST
THREE MONTHS OF 2022 LAWMAKERS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY. PROPOSED 238
BILLS RESTRICTING THE RIGHTS OF
OUR LGBTQ, PLUS COMMUNITIES. IF
WE FAIL TO PUSH BACK ON
OFFENSIVE RHETORIC UNFAIRLY CAST
OUR LGBTQ COMMUNITY AS BEING
ANTI FAMILY LGBTQ, INDIVIDUALS
WILL CONTINUE TO FACE
DISCRIMINATION FOR DOING NOTHING
MORE THAN EXERCISING THEIR EQUAL
RIGHTS TO BUILD A FAMILY OF
THEIR OWN. A B 24 66 IS TO TAKE
THIS HATEFUL RHETORIC HEAD ON.
IT DOES SO BY REMOVING BARRIERS
TO OUR FAMILIES WISHING TO SERVE
AS RESOURCE FAMILIES FOR FOSTER
CHILDREN AND TO REMOVE THE
STATUTORY STIGMA ATTACHED TO
LGBTQ FOSTER CHILDREN. SPACE TO
SIGNIFICANT REFORMS APPROVED BY
THE LEGISLATURE IN RECENT YEARS
, REGARDLESS OF THE PERCEIVED OR
ACTUAL SEXUAL ORIENTATION,
GENDER IDENTITY OR GENDER
EXPRESSION. MORE AND MORE
FAMILIES ARE SEEKING TO OFFER
THEIR SERVICES AS A RESOURCE
FAMILIES. WHICH PROVIDES OUT OF
HOME CARE FOR FOSTER CHILDREN.
ALTHOUGH SOME PLACING AGENCIES
ARE CREATING SUPPORTIVE
PRACTICES FOR LGBTQ COMMUNITY
AND RECRUITING PROSPECTIVE LGBTQ
RESOURCE FAMILIES, OTHERS STILL
EMPLOY RULES AND POLICIES THAT
PERPETUATE UNFAIR AND OUTDATED
STEREOTYPES ABOUT WHO SHOULD AND
SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO TAKE IN
FOSTER CHILDREN. SOCIAL WORKERS
AND CHILD WELFARE AGENCIES ARE
EMPOWERED TO EXERCISE
SIGNIFICANT DISCRETION AND
HELPINGDECIDE WHO GETS LICENSED
AS A RESOURCE FAMILIES AND WHO
DOES NOT. WITHOUT STATE
PROTECTIONS AGAINST
DISCRIMINATION. SOME SOCIAL
WORKERS MAY ALLOW THEIR PERSONAL
BIASES AGAINST OUR LGBTQ
COMMUNITY TO CREATE
INSURMOUNTABLE BARRIERS FOR
OTHERWISE QUALIFIED FAMILIES
SEEKING TO SERVE AS LOVING
RESOURCE FAMILIES. A B 24 66
WILL PROVIDE THESE NEEDED
PROTECTIONS BY PROHIBITING
PLACING AGENCIES FROM DECLINING
TO PLACE A FOSTER CHILD WITH
THEIR RESOURCE FAMILY SOLELY ON%
THE GROUNDS THAT THE RESOURCE
FAMILY IDENTIFIES AS LGBT Q.
PLUS ANOTHER INCONVENIENT TRUTH
IS THAT OUR LGBTQ YOUTH ARE
OVERREPRESENTED IN OUR FOSTER
CARE SYSTEM IN THE TRAUMATIC
EXPERIENCES OF THESE FOSTER
CHILDREN ARE OFTEN OVERLOOKED.
DESPITE WHAT ONE MIGHT HEAR ON
CERTAIN CABLE NEWS CHANNELS.
LGBT Q CHILDREN, OUR CHILDREN,
TOO. THEY ARE JUST AS DESERVING
OF RIGHTS, LOVE AND PROTECTION
AS EVERYONE ELSE. UNFORTUNATELY
OUR YOUTH CONTINUED TO REPORT
DISCRIMINATION, MARGINALIZATION
AND OVERALL LACK OF ACCEPTANCE
WHEN NAVIGATING OUR STATE'S
WELFARE SYSTEM. THIS LACK OF
ACCEPTANCE IS MANIFESTED BY THE
FACT THAT MANY PLACING AGENCIES
INCLUDING LGBTQ, PLUS FOSTER
CHILDREN. IN THE LEGAL CATEGORY
OF HARD TO PLACE CHILDREN. THIS
UNFAIR CLASSIFICATION ON THE
BASIS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION
ALONE CAN HINDER FOSTER
PLACEMENT AND UNNECESSARILY
INFLICT TRAUMA ON OUR FOSTER
CHILDREN. THIS BILL WILL END THE
STATUTORY STIGMA BY REMOVING THE
TERM HARD TO PLACE CHILDREN FROM
OUR STATE LAWS. WE MUST STRIVE
TO INSTILL THIS BASIC PRINCIPLE
IN OUR FOSTER CARE SYSTEM. NO
CHILD. IT'S TOO DIFFICULT TO
LOVE OR CARE FOR JUST BECAUSE OF
THEIR RACE, RELIGION, IDENTITY,
DISABILITY, SEXUAL ORIENTATION
OR GENDER, IDENTITY OR GENDER
EXPRESSION. SENATORS UNTIL WE
UNTIL CONGRESS PASSES NATIONWIDE
LAWS PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION
ON THE BASIS OF SEXUAL
ORIENTATION OR GENDER IDENTITY.
WE HERE IN CALIFORNIA MUST STEP
UP TO PROTECT EMBRACE AND
EMPOWER OUR LGBTQ COMMUNITY. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN IVO ON A
B 24 66 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ASSEMBLYWOMAN BELIEVE YOU HAVE A
TELEPHONIC SUPPORTER. IS IT
GABRIELLE MALDONADO? WE DID BUT
RESPECTFULLY CHAIR. WE MISSED
THE TIME WINDOW. NO PROBLEM.
ALRIGHT MOVING BACK TO THE ROOM
SINCE WE HAVE NO OTHER OFFICIAL
FOLKS IN SUPPORT ROOM 2100
ANYONE HERE WISHING TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR 24 66, PLEASE
APPROACH THE SCREEN. SEEING NONE
. MODERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE GO
OUT TO THE PHONE LINES? LET US
KNOW HOW MANY MIGHT BE IN THE
QUEUE AND REMIND THEM TO LIMIT
THEIR STATEMENTS TO THEIR NAME,
AFFILIATION AND POSITION,
PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS YOUR
OPINION ON THIS AND BUILT 24 66
ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. ARE
WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR PEOPLE
QUEUING UP AND OUR FIRST PERSON
IS LYING. 1 45, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
SUPPORT. I AM 1 45, PLEASE
SHOULD BE DONE. NO. 91 45. WE
DON'T HAVEN'T HEARD YOU USE YOUR
PHONE ON MUTE. HI THIS IS TOMMY
MARTIN ON BEHALF OF EQUALITY,
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. AND NOW TO LINE 1 50,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
, REBECA GONZALEZ FOR THE
NATIONALISTS OF STATION AND
SOCIAL WORKERS, CALIFORNIA
CHAPTER IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
AND NOW ALIGN. 1 71, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON, OLIVIA
SAYS ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY
WELFARE ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. AND NOW ALIGN 1 69.
HELLO MY NAME IS AND HER
HUSBAND. MY AFFILIATION IS A MY
MAMA BEAR OF AN L C P P TRANS
CHILD AND I AM STRONGLY SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. AND NOW TO LINE 1 85,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
MONEY GRANDMA ON BEHALF OF FIRST
FIVE CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE
IN. Q PLEASE CONTINUE. THANK YOU
. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE
HAVE NO PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION FOLLOWING THE SAME
PROTOCOL. ANY INDIVIDUAL IN ROOM
2100 WISHING TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 24 66 PLEASE
APPROACH THE SCREEN. SEEING
NONE. MODERATOR CAN YOU DO A
CALL OUT FOR FOLKS WISHING TO
EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO A B 24 66
LIMITING THEIR COMMENTS TO THEIR
NAME, AFFILIATION AND POSITION,
PLEASE? THANK YOU AGAIN IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION
TO A B 24 66, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND WE
HAVE NO ONE QUEUING UP. PLEASE
CONTINUE. OKAY WITH THAT. BRING
IT BACK TO THE DAIS. COLLEAGUES.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR
LAIRD ASSEMBLYWOMAN, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO OFFER CLOSING COMMENTS?
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND SERVICE
OF EQUAL PROTECTION FOR LGBTQ
COMMUNITY AND OUR CHILDREN IN
FOSTER CARE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN I VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU. WITH THAT MOTION BEING MADE
COURT. COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL,
PLEASE? OKAY THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS HAMBURG GORGEOUS.
CABALLERO. TO RUSSELL. SO I
GONZALEZ. AYE, HERZBERG JONES.
WEIRD. WEIRD. I'M ACQUIRE STERN.
WIENER. YOU HAVE 3 TO 0 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING, ALL RIGHT,
WE'LL KEEP THAT ITEM OPEN. CAN I
SAY SOMETHING? MR CHAIR TO THE
AUTHOR JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE
THE AUTHOR. FOR HAVING BEEN
ELECTED VICE CHAIR OF THE LATINO
CAUCUS TODAY. SO CONGRATULATIONS
, CONGRATULATIONS. I WAS CLOSE
IN THE RUNNING, BUT YOU BEAT ME
OUT. AH. ALRIGHT MOVING ON TO
FINAL ITEM. 14 CAN BE A LONG DAY
. ALRIGHT I AM 14 A B 16 11. AH
DAVIES. DAVIES SAID. AS BEFORE
YOU BEGIN MY UNDERSTANDING.
THERE ARE AMENDMENTS. ARE YOU
ACCEPTING THESE AMENDMENTS?
CERTAINLY AM WONDERFUL. THE
FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR SENATORS TODAY I'M
HERE TO PRESENT A B 16 11. I
FIRST WANT TO THANK COMMITTEE
STAFFER WORKING WITH MY STAFF
AND STAKEHOLDERS. ON THIS
MEASURE, I WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS TO CURRENT
LAW WHEN THERE IS A THREAT OF
LEAKAGE OF OIL COMING FROM A
VESSEL. THAT'S THAT'S A MUST
IMMEDIATELY REPORT THAT
DISCHARGE TO CAL O ES.
SHOCKINGLY HOWEVER, IF A VESSEL
WERE TO BE CAUGHT BECAUSE OF OIL
LEAKAGE, SUCH AS HITTING A
PIPELINE WITH ITS ANCHOR LIKE WE
WITNESSED AN ORANGE COUNTY LAST
OCTOBER. THERE IS NO LAW
MANDATING THAT THEY MUST NOTIFY
ANYONE. A B 16 11 IS A SIMPLE
MEASURE TO MERELY PUT INTO PLACE
PROTOCOLS FOR A VESSEL TO NOTIFY
CALLOW YES, ABOUT A STRIKER
POTENTIAL STRIKE OF A SUBMERGED
PIPELINE IN STATE WATERS. THE
BILL WOULD ALSO STATE THAT A
VESSEL OPERATOR WHO KNOWINGLY
DOES NOT PROVIDE THIS ALERT TO
KLOS. HELLO? YES IS SUBJECT TO A
CIVIL FINE OF UP TO $1 MILLION.
I WENT TO SPECIFY THAT THIS
AMOUNT IS ALREADY CURRENT LAW,
GOVERNMENT CODE 8670.64 AND A B
16 11 MERELY COPIES ITS EXISTING
PENALTY SCHEME. I ALSO WANT TO
ADDRESS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION
FROM THE LAST COMMITTEE. UNDER
NEW LANGUAGE FROM AMENDMENTS
FROM THE SENATE NATURAL
RESOURCES THE BILL WOULD REQUIRE
KELE O ES TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP
WITH THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION.
AND FILM, SIR. THE NOTIFICATION
PORTION OF THIS BILL.
FURTHERMORE ASPER WOULD WORK
WITH THE COAST GUARD'S
INAPPROPRIATE STATE MARINE
EXCHANGE TO HELP MAP OUT ALL
EXISTING SUBMERGED PIPELINES AND
MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION
IS READILY AVAILABLE TO ANY
VESSEL TRAVELING IN OUR WATERS.
SO IN TOTAL. WE HAVE THE STATE
EMERGENCY ACTION AGENCY KELLAWAY
DÍAS HANDLING THE NOTIFICATION
UPON AN INCIDENT AND THE STATE'S
OIL SPILL PREVENTION AND
RESPONSE AGENCY. ASPER TRYING TO
PREVENT AN ACCIDENT AHEAD OF
TIME BY WORKING WITH FEDERAL
PARTNERS TO FULLY FLUSH WHERE A
VESSEL SHOULD AVOID ANCHORING
DOWN. I LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS AND
CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL
STAKEHOLDERS OF THIS BILL, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MINERS, SAYING
THERE'S NO PRIMARY WITNESSES ON
THIS BILL, MOVING IT BACK TO
ROOM 2100 ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING
TO COMMENT ON A B 16 11. THIS
WOULD BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO
APPROACH THE SCREEN SEEING NONE
. MODERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN
THE PHONE LINES ON A B 16 11?
LET US KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS ARE
IN THE QUEUE AND WOULD LIKE TO
REMIND THOSE CALLING IN TO LIMIT
YOUR COMMENTS TO YOUR NAME,
AFFILIATION AND POSITION,
PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU
AGAIN. IF YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT, PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE
NO ONE QUEUING UP. ALL RIGHT. UM
PROBABLY THE SAME PROTOCOL. MY
UNDERSTANDING. WE ALSO HAVE NO
PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. ANY FOLKS IN ROOM
2100 WISHING TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO 16 11, THIS IS
YOUR OPPORTUNITY. SEEING NON
MODERATOR, CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN
THE LINES FOR THOSE WISHING TO
EXPRESS OPPOSITION, LIMITING
THEIR COMMENTS TO NAME PART NAME
PARTY NAME PHYSICIAN AND
AFFILIATION, PLEASE? THANK YOU
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO A B 1611 PLEASE
PRESS ONE MAN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
AND WE HAVE NO ONE QUEUING UP.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BRING IT
BACK TO THE DAIS COLLEAGUES.
ANYONE WISHING TO COMMENT.
SENATOR STERN. YEAH THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, SAM.
REMEMBER? I KNOW WE JUST HEARD
THIS INCENTIVE, NATURAL RESOURCE
AND WATER AND I'M TRYING TO GET
CLARITY HERE. I'M GOING THROUGH
THE AMENDMENTS FROM THIS
COMMITTEE NOW FOR THE CHANGES.
THE AMENDMENTS YOU'RE ACCEPTING
NOW. WOULD LOWER THE THRESHOLD
FOR VIOLATING THE FAILED
REPORTING CLAUSE. SO IN OTHER
WORDS, IT WOULD ONLY BE VESSEL
OPERATORS WHO KNOWINGLY FAILED
TO REPORT AS OPPOSED TO ALL
REPORTS. SO YOU HAVE TO SORT OF
YOU'D HAVE TO PROVE KNOWLEDGE OR
OR SOME KIND OF IN INTEND TO
THAT YOU'VE GOT CERTAIN
INFORMATION THAT, YOU KNOW,
CORRECT, OKAY? UM. YEAH I MEAN,
I ALREADY HAD. AS YOU KNOW, I
ALREADY HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE
BILL NOT BEING STRONG ENOUGH IN
TERMS OF DEALING WITH THE RISK
OF OFFSHORE BILLS, AND THAT'S
WHY I HELD OFF THE BILL IN IN
COMMITTEE. CONCERNED NOW FURTHER
IS IN FROM THE JUDICIARY
PERSPECTIVE THAT WE'RE EVEN
MAKING IT HARDER TO CRACK DOWN
ON AND FAILURES IN THE INDUSTRY.
UM. IS WITH THIS KNOWING
VIOLATION THRESHOLD, SO DOES
THAT REMOVED THE MERCHANT
SHIPPING ASSOCIATIONS? UH
POSITION IS THAT NO, NO, THEY
WERE REMAIN OPPOSED PRESENT,
OKAY? UM. AND THERE'S ONE OTHER
CHANGE IN THIS IN THE BUILDING.
SINCE THAT COMMITTEE, IT'S A
VIOLATION. I DON'T I DON'T QUITE
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OTHER
AMENDMENT IS, SO IT'S NOT
SUBJECT TO ENFORCEMENT UNDER 86
70.64 OR 86 70.65. I WANT TO GET
CLARITY HERE. THE BILL DOESN'T
MAKE IT A MISDEMEANOR ANYMORE.
JUST INCREASES THE FINE. GOT IT
. SO IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE
PENALTY AS OPPOSED TO A
POTENTIAL MISDEMEANOR, OKAY? UM. MY CONCERNS REMAIN APPRECIATE
THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK
THROUGH THE BILL AND TRYING TO
GET IT PASSED, BUT NOW IT DOES
EVEN LESS THAN IT DID BEFORE. SO
I WANT TO DO THE BIG THINGS. I
KNOW. I KNOW. I'M INSISTING ON
THAT, AND I THINK IT'S FOR ALL
OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO LIVE
ANYWHERE NEAR THESE. THESE
SPILLS. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE
LEGISLATURE ACT BOLDLY. AND I
JUST I DON'T SEE THAT FROM THIS
LEGISLATION AT THIS POINT, SO
I'M GONNA REMAIN WHERE I WAS
FROM LAST COMMITTEE, BUT
APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS HERE.
THE SENATOR STERN ANY OTHER
COMMITTEE MEMBER WISHING TO
COMMENT. GONZALEZ, MR CHAIR, I
AM YOU KNOW, I ALSO UNDERSTAND
THE INTENT OF THIS BILL AS WELL.
BUT IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT YOU
KNOW AGAIN. WE SHOULD BE
ENSURING THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL
PENALTIES AND THERE, YOU KNOW, I
THINK A MISDEMEANOR WITH
PENALTIES. SEEMS TO BE BOLD
ENOUGH. BUT PERHAPS THERE NEEDS
TO BE MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS.
SO UM, I KNOW I ALSO HAVE TO
CONNECT WITH OUR AUTHORITIES
BECAUSE I KNOW AIRPORT
AUTHORITIES. I REPRESENT ONE OF
THE LARGEST PORT OF LONG BEACH
AND SO I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW,
HAVING THEM WEIGH IN. AND IN
ADDITION TO THE PCMCIA AND%
SEEING WHERE WE CAN YOU KNOW
WHAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER WITH
HIM, I THINK WOULD BE, UM, WHERE
I'M AT AS WELL. SO I WILL LAY
OFF OF THE BILL AT THIS TIME,
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE
WORKING ON THIS TO ENSURE WE GET
THIS RIGHT. THANK YOU ANYONE
ELSE? SEEING NONE. DO WE HAVE A
MOTION? I WILL TAKE IT UPON
MYSELF TO EVEN AS A TEMPORARY
ALL RIGHT. YEAH.
DO WE HAVE? I HAVE BEEN
INSTRUCTED THE CHAIR IS NOT EVEN
THE TEMPORARY CHAIR CANNOT
INITIATE EMOTION, MR CHAIR.
GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU WILL BE
MAKING A MOTION WHENEVER WE
COULD GET TO IT. I WILL MAKE THE
MOTION BUT I'M GOING TO BE
STAYING OFF AS WELL. BUT THAT
WAY WE'LL BE ON THE RECORD AS A
PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. I WOULD
MOVE THE BILL. AS A PROFESSIONAL
COURTESY. I KNOW THE AUTHOR.
THANKS YOU FOR THAT
PROCEDURALLY. I APPRECIATE IT AS
WELL. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A WE
HAVE A MOTION IN SPIRIT BY
SENATOR LAIRD. CAN YOU CALL THE
ROLL, PLEASE? MARY'S SPEAK REAL
QUICK JUST TO FINISH UP. OH, YOU
KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE RIGHT. I
APOLOGIZE. I DID NOT GIVE YOU
THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE. NO NO
PROBLEM. FIRST OF ALL, I'M
ALWAYS OPEN AND DOORS OPEN TO
DISCUSS THIS, AND I APPRECIATE
YOUR YOUR CONCERNS. UM THERE'S
SO MANY DIFFERENT I THINK
REGULATIONS AND BILLS THAT WE
CAN ACTUALLY PUT OUT THERE
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE
ENVIRONMENT, AND I CAN TELL YOU
HAVING LIVED IN ORANGE COUNTY,
SEEING THE DEVASTATION THAT THIS
HAPPEN. HAPPEN AND AGAIN, YOU
KNOW, STATE WATERS OR THREE
MILES OUT, SO VESSELS DO COME IN
THERE, SO IT MAY NOT BE
EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK IT'S
DEFINITELY A GOOD START. AND
RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE SOMETHING
LIKE THIS THAT WOULD GO THROUGH
THIS YEAR TO BE ABLE TO HELP.
THIS WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE,
ESPECIALLY SINCE THE ACCIDENT
THAT THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, TOOK
QUITE SOME TIME TO ACTUALLY
START LEAKING. AND SO IF WE
COULD START SOMETHING LIKE THIS,
AND PERHAPS NEXT YEAR, THEN WE
GO AHEAD AND WE MAKE IT EVEN
STRONGER, SO TO HAVE SOMETHING
THERE THAT COULD PASS. AND BE
THERE AS A SAFETY ISSUE RIGHT
NOW AND THEN I WOULD DEFINITELY
BE LOOKING INTO SEEING WHAT ELSE
I COULD DO. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD
LIKE TO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
BUT I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR
THOUGHTS. UM YOU KNOW, WE CAN
MAKE THIS A BETTER BUILD. THAT'S
WHAT I WANT TO DO. BUT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT,
CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL? THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMEND AND RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS HAMBURG. GORGEOUS
CAFIERO. BRUSSEL. GONZALES.
HERTZBERG. JONES WEIRD. ACQUIRE
STERN. WIENER. ALL RIGHT. YOU
HAVE ONE VOTE. WE HAVE FOLKS.
NOT HERE. WE'LL KEEP THAT ITEM
OPEN. THANK YOU. GOOD. ALRIGHT,
WE ARE MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM
19. A B 13 41 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA. MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WERE
NO AMENDMENTS TO THIS. BILL. CAN
YOU CONFIRM THAT? CORRECT OK,
THANK YOU BEFORE ALRIGHT.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER, THE FLOOR IS
YOURS. AH IN FUTURE AND MEMBERS
. MAYBE 13 41 WOULD BAN THESALE
OF DIET PILLS TO MINORS UNLESS
PRESCRIBED BY A DOCTOR. EATING
DISORDERS ARE SERIOUS HEALTH
PUBLIC PROBLEM AFFECTING PEOPLE
OF ALL RACES, AGES AND GENDER,
BUT IS ESPECIALLY TROUBLING FOR
OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. CALIFORNIA IS
AT THE FOREFRONT OF REGULATIONS
CONCERNING WEIGHT LOSS, DIETARY
SUPPLEMENTS AND DIET PILLS
WITHIN OUR PROHIBIT THE SALE OF
THESE PRODUCTS TO MINORS DESPITE
WELL DOCUMENTED DANGERS. I HAVE
A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS WHO
TESTIFY, INCLUDING A YOUNG WOMAN
WHO WILL SHARE HER OWN STORY. OF
BEING ADDICTED TO, UM ACTUALLY
APOLOGIZE. I THINK SHE MIGHT NOT
BE WITH US ANYMORE BECAUSE OF
TIME. I DO ACTUALLY HAVE A
DIFFERENCE IN SORRY WHO WILL
TEST THEIR OWN? WHO WILL SHARE
OUR OWN STORY TO THIS? THIS BILL
WAS NOT MY IDEA. I WAS SHOCKED
TO FIND OUT THAT DIET PILLS ARE
NOT REGULATED IN MINERS WHO
PICKED US UP ON THEIR OWN. I
WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE
WOULD MAKE CALIFORNIA THE FIRST
STATE IN THE NATION TO ADDRESS
THIS ISSUE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN I VOTE. WE HAVE WORKED
WITH THE OPPOSITION CONTINUOUSLY
AND HAVE REMOVED MOST OF THE
OPPOSITION. ALONG THE WAY. WE
CONTINUE TO BE TO HAVE AN OPEN
DOOR WITH ME TODAY. I HAVE DR
JASON NGATA, THE PEDIATRIC
DOCTOR WITH THE UC SAN FRANCISCO
AND A JOB. MARV UVA STUDENT
ADVOCATEWITH STRIPED,
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AS
THE AUTHOR INDICATED, WE HAVE A
MR JASON NGATA AND NAJMA N,
CUBA, BOTH ONLINE. PLEASE LIMIT
YOUR COMMENTS TO TWO MINUTES
EACH FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR
MNUTES. MODERATOR, CAN WE START
WITH MR NAGATA? THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH
YOU TODAY ABOUT THE ASSEMBLY
BILL 13 41. MY NAME IS DR JASON
NGATA, AND I AM A PEDIATRICIAN
AND FACULTY MEMBER AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, SAN
FRANCISCO. I AM HERE TO SHARE
SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH SUPPORTING
ASSEMBLY BILL 13 41 AND URGE YOU
TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS
IMPORTANT BILL. THE U. S WEIGHT
LOSS SUPPLEMENT INDUSTRY
GENERATES OVER $2.5 BILLION IN
ANNUAL REVENUE. THESE PRODUCTS
ARE IN LOCAL PHARMACIES, GROCERY
STORES AND HEALTH FOOD STORES.
BUT WHAT MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW
IS THAT WEIGHT LOSS SUPPLEMENTS
ARE NOT REVIEWED BY THE FDA FOR
SAFETY OR EFFECTIVENESS BEFORE
THEY ENTER THE MARKET. RESEARCH
DEMONSTRATES THAT MANY
SUPPLEMENTS OUR LIVES BUT STANDS
SUBSTANCES. PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
STIMULANT STEROIDS AND OTHER
TOXIC INGREDIENTS. ONE RECENT
SCIENTIFIC STUDY FOUND THAT
YOU'RE USING WEIGHT LOSS
SUPPLEMENT FOR THREE TIMES MORE
LIKELY THAN THOSE USING ORDINARY
VITAMINS TO EXPERIENCE SEVERE
MEDICAL HARM, INCLUDING
HOSPITALIZATION. DISABILITY AND
EVEN DEATH. THE CDC ESTIMATES.
WITH THAT MOMENT, YOU 23,000
EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS EVERY YEAR
WITH A QUARTER DUE TO WEIGHT
LOSS SUPPLEMENTS ALONE. THE
AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS
RECENTLY, EXTRAISSUED A REPORT
STRONGLY CAUTIONING AGAINST
TEAMS USING THESE PRODUCTS FOR
ANY REASON. YOU TO USE OVER THE
COUNTER DIET PILLS ARE SIX TIMES
MORE LIKELY TO BE DIAGNOSED WITH
AN EATING DISORDER THAN
NONUSERS. ASSEMBLY BILL 13 41
GETS CALIFORNIA LAWMAKERS THE
OPPORTUNITIES TO TAKE ACTION NOW
TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. PISTOL
WOULD PREVENT THE SALE OF WEIGHT
LOSS SUPPLEMENTS AND OVER THE
COUNTER THAT KILLED THE MINERS.
I URGE YOU TO VOTE AND SUPPORT
OF A B 13 40 WATT. HE MUST ACT
NOW TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN OF
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR NAGATA. NOW MOVING ON TO
MR MÀ UBA. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES,
PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR.
AMBERG ADVICE. CHERBOURG YES,
I'M NOT TRYING MY STUDENTS AND
JUNIOR ALICE COVERS HIGH SCHOOL
. I WORKED IN THE SAN JOSE STATE
UNIVERSITY HUMAN RIGHTS TO ON
NUMEROUS POSITIVE INITIATIVES.
THERE IS A POLICY INTERN FOR
CALIFORNIA STATE POLICY THINK
TANK AND CURRENTLY UNDER HAD
ORGANIZATIONAL DIRECTOR AT THE
POLICY INITIATIVES INSTITUTE, A
PROMINENT YOUTH ONE LEGISLATIVE
EDUCATIONAL NONPROFIT OVER 100
PASSIONATE HIGH SCHOOL TEAM
MEMBERS. AND PROMOTING POLICY
EDUCATION. AN AWESOME BALDWIN
GOVERNMENT IN MULTIPLE OUT THE
18TH CONGRESSIONAL MYSTERY
ADVISORY BOARD HAD AWARD WINNING
PUBLIC POLICY WRITING PUBLISHED
ON NUMEROUS BACKGROUNDS.
COLUMBIA STANFORD UNIVERSITY
DEAL. I SAID ALL THIS REALLY
DEMONSTRATES THAT I'M A YOUNG
CALIFORNIA RESIDENT WHO CARES?
DEEPLY EMBARRASSED, POSSIBLE
POLICY AND THE WELL BEING OF MY
COMMUNITY AND RECENTLY A LOT OF
EXPOSURE, LEARNING THE PREDATORY
NATURE OF NUMEROUS SITES FOR
COMPANIES. PRIME CONCERNED,
DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WELL
BEING OF MY EARS. I STRONGLY
URGE YOU TO BOARD IN FAVOR OF A
B 13 41. ÁP SUPPLEMENTS SOLD
FOUR TIMES THE WEIGHT LOSS TO
READILY FOUND ACROSS ONLINE
VENDORS AND BRICK AND MORTAR
STORE SLASH CALIFORNIA BUT DUE
TO THE DIETARY SUPPLEMENT HEALTH
AND EDUCATION ACT AS CONGRESS
PASSED 1994. PROHIBITED FROM
PRESCHOOL IN DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS
COULD ENTER THE MARKET THIS
SEASON. MANY FACTORS TO BE
EXPECTED I WOULD HEAR US SOME
ADJUSTMENT HONOR SYSTEM BUT A
MYRIAD OF CONSUMER MARKET
DIETARY SUPPLEMENT SEVEN THAT
FIGHT TO CONTAIN DESCRIPTION
FARMS TO THE COAST. BANNED
SUBSTANCES, HEAVY METALS AND
EXERCISE. ADDITIONALLY AS A
CALIFORNIA YOUTH I HAVE
PERSONALLY OBSERVED THE PLANS OF
THE TISSUE. WITH THE SOCIAL
MEDIA CULTURE THAT EMPHASIZED
APPEARANCE AND THE EXPLOITATION
OF THE NATURAL EMOTIONAL
OFFICIAL PUBERTY AND MY PEERS
HAVE BEEN PUSHED EXPERIMENT WITH
DIET PILLS. BUT YOU'RE THE FOUR
MENTIONED UNDER REGULATED
SUBSTANCES. THEY POSTED
DANGEROUS, RISKY FOR BEING
MAKING THIS A CLEARLY
APPROACHING US THREATENED OR
STATE. BECAUSE MAYBE 13 41, THE
BAND ITSELF OVER THE CHARACTER
PROBLEMS SUFFERING FOR THE
MINERS. IT JUST CALIFORNIA
LAWMAKERS OPPORTUNITY RESPONSES
TO IT AND PROTECT THEIR YOU. I
STRONGLY URGE YOU TO BOOK EVERY
13 41 THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO
BECOME THE FIRST THING IN THE
COUNTRY TO BEND THE SELL THESE
TOXIC PARTISAN CHILDREN. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT,
MOVING BACK TO ROOM. 2100 DO WE
HAVE ANY INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR A B 13 41?
SEEING NONE MOVING TO THE
MODERATOR. DO WE HAVE ANY FOLKS
IN THE QUEUE EXPRESSING SUPPORT
FOR 13 41 LET ME TO REMIND YOU
THOSE THAT ARE LIMIT YOUR
STATEMENTS TO YOUR NAME YOUR
AFFILIATION IN YOUR POSITION,
PLEASE. THANK YOU AGAIN. LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR A B 13
41, PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO.
WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE QUEUING UP
ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. IN THEIR
FIRST PERSON IS IN LINE 1 81 80,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. I AM DR
BRENNAN, AUSTIN FROM THE
STRATEGIC TRAINING INITIATIVE
FOR THE PREVENTION OF EATING
DISORDERS, AND I AM IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF A B 1341. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND NOW TO LINE 1 89,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI. MY NAME IS
CENTERED. SO I WORKED WITH THE
STRATEGIC TRAINING INITIATIVE
FOR THE PREVENTION OF EATING
DISORDERS AND I SUPPORT
SEARCHING FOR MONTHS. THANK YOU.
AND NOW TWO LINE 32. HI THERE.
MY NAME IS JILL CAVANAUGH ON
BEHALF OF THE STRATEGIC TRAINING
INITIATIVE FOR THE PREVENTION OF
EATING DISORDERS AND I SUPPORT
MAYBE 13 41. MONITOR DOES THAT
COMPLETE OUR QUÊ? I'M SORRY. SAY
THAT AGAIN. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE
IN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DO
NOT HAVE ANY ORGANIZED
OPPOSITION? IS THAT CORRECT? AND
THE AUTHOR CONFIRMED THAT THE
NATURAL I'M SORRY. DO WE HAVE.
DO WE HAVE A FORMAL OPPOSITION
REPRESENTATIVE? YES, KYLE TURNED
FROM THE NATURAL PRODUCTS
ASSOCIATION. NO, NOT ON THE
LIST. BUT HE'S. MR TURK, PLEASE
PROCEED. THANK YOU. MP
REPRESENTS OVER 700 DIVERSE
MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS UNITED AND
PROVIDING CONSUMERS WITH ACCESS
TO SAFE PRODUCT TO MAINTAIN AND
IMPROVE THEIR HEALTH. WE WERE
THE FIRST ORGANIZATION TO OFFER
THIRD PARTY GOOD MANUFACTURING
PRACTICES CERTIFICATION PROGRAM
TO DIETARY SUPPLEMENT AND
INGREDIENT MANUFACTURERS. WITH
RESPECT TO A B 13 41. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER
SUPPLEMENTS OR NATURAL PRODUCTS
FOUND IN FOODS IN NATURE. AND
WHILE EATING DISORDERS VERY
SEVERE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL
HEALTH CONDITION AND THESE
CERTAIN THESE PEOPLE CERTAINLY
NEED HELP. BENNING INGREDIENTS
FOUND IN EVERY DAY FOOD, FRUITS
AND VEGETABLES IS NOT THE ANSWER
. ANY PERCENT OF AMERICANS TAKE
AT LEAST ONE DIETARY SUPPLEMENT
AS A SAFE, EFFECTIVE. AN
AFFORDABLE WAY TO MAINTAIN GOOD
HEALTH AND AUGMENT INADEQUATE
DIET. OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS
AND AH HAS FOILED THE FDA TWICE
, AND IN BOTH INSTANCES, THE FDA
FAILED TO FIND A CORRELATION OR
LINK BETWEEN THE USE OF DIETARY
SUPPLEMENTS AND EATING
DISORDERS. ADDITIONALLY THE
PASSAGE OF THE DIETARY
SUPPLEMENT HEALTH AND EDUCATION
ACT REPRESENTED A BALANCED
APPROACH TO PROTECTING CONSUMER
HEALTH. WITH THE SHADE. CONGRESS
TOOK THE CENTRAL STEPS TO ENSURE
ACCESS TO SAFE PRODUCT. THE SHEA
ALSO CREATED A REGULATORY
LANDSCAPE FOR DIETARY
SUPPLEMENTS ENCOMPASSING SAFETY
, NEW INGREDIENTS MARKETING
LABEL AND GMP. UNFORTUNATELY
SOME HAVE ARGUED THAT A ERS ARE
NOT A VALUABLE IN DETERMINING
TEMPORAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A
PRODUCT AND AN EATING DISORDER.
THIS COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM
THE TRUTH SINCE FDA USES THE MED
WATCH SYSTEM TO ADD WARNINGS.
TWO PRODUCTS THAT REGULATES THAT
LEAD TO OR EXACERBATE EATING
DISORDERS. THAT'S THE HYPOTHESIS
THAT SUPPLEMENTS DIRECTLY LEAD
TO EATING DISORDERS WOULD HAVE
BEEN PICKED UP BY MID WALK. THE
BOTTOM LINE IS NUTRITIONAL
SUPPLEMENTS SUPPORTED BALANCED
LIFESTYLE, AND WE SHOULD BE
DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP
OUT PEOPLE STAYING HEALTHY
BANNING PRODUCTS FOUND IN FOODS
IN NATURE IS THE WRONG DIRECTION
TO GO IN, AND M P A WOULD BE
SUPPORTIVE OF AMENDMENTS TO
STRIKE THE DIETARY SUPPLEMENT
PROVISIONS. FROM A B 13 41 AND
PROHIBIT THE SALE OF OVER THE
COUNTER DIET BILLS, UM, THAT
CARRY A DRUG TAX PANEL. I'M
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON
DIETARY SUPPLEMENT REGULATION OR
. UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT MOVING BACK
TO ROOM 2100. DO WE HAVE ANY
FOLKS WISHING TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION? MAYBE 13 41. PLEASE
APPROACH THE SCREEN. SEEING NONE
. MODERATOR WE OPEN UP THE LINES
FOR THOSE WISHING TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO A B 13 41 LIMITING
THEIR COMMENTS TO THEIR NAME,
AFFILIATION AND POSITION. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN ONE, THEN
ZERO IF YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION, MAYBE 13 41. AND WE
HAVE NO ONE QUEUING UP AT THIS
TIME. OKAY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS.
COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
MOTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A
MOTION BY SENATOR STERN. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO OFFER CLOSING
REMARKS? ASSEMBLYWOMAN YES. I
WANT TO THANK THE DOCTORS WHO
SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THIS. I THINK
WE SHOULD LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS
OUT THERE IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND
THE HAVE CLEARLY STATED THAT
THIS IS ONE WAY TO HELP STUDENTS
TO HELP YOUNG INDIVIDUALS OUT
COMBAT THE EATING DISORDER
CRISIS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH
TODAY. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AND I VOTE. THANK YOU. BUT OF
COURSE, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL? THE MOTION IS DUE PASS,
BUT FIRST BE RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HAMBURG. GORGEOUS NÓ. GORGEOUS
NO CABALLERO TO RUSSELL. SO I
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ, I HERZBERG
JONES LAYERED LAIRD. I'M ACQUIRE
STERN. STERN I WIENER. YOU HAVE
4 TO 1 WITH MEMBERS MISSING. ALL
RIGHT, WE'LL KEEP THIS ITEM
OPEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPARENTLY YOU HAVE NOT ONE BUT
TWO, BUT IN THREE ITEMS THAT YOU
WILL BE PRESENTING TO ON BEHALF
OF OTHERS. BUT MOVING ON TO FILE
ITEM NUMBER 20, MAYBE. 25 OH,
THREE. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY
AMENDMENTS? THAT WERE PUT
FORWARD. I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY,
THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU
THERE OVER 25 DIFFERENT TERMS
USED THROUGHOUT THE CODE TO
DESCRIBE LANDLORD AND TENANT. A
B 25 FT THREE WILL INSTRUCT THE
LAB REVISION COMMISSION TO STUDY
AND ESTABLISH UNIFIED
TERMINOLOGY AND THE VARIOUS
TERMS FROM LANDLORDS ANTENNA AND
REPORT REPORT BACK TO THE
LEGISLATURE UNDER FINDINGS. WITH
THAT? I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AND
I VOTE. THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND
THAT WE HAVE A RON KINGSTON. WHO
WILL BE YOUR LEAD SUPPORT
WITNESS, MR KINGSTON. PLEASE
THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE CAMERON
KINGSTON. THE SPONSOR OF THE
BILL IS THE APARTMENT
ASSOCIATION OF ORANGE COUNTY,
ALONG WITH OTHER APARTMENT
ASSOCIATIONS DON'T KNOW IN
OPPOSITION. THE BILL, UM IS
FINALLY BRINGS FORTH THE NOTION
THAT WE HAVE TO CORRECT THE
USAGE OF TERMS WE HAVE FOUND IS
, AS THE AUTHOR HAS SAID. THERE
ARE 25 DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE
REFER TO LANDLORDS AND TENANTS.
THROUGHOUT OUR CODES. WE ARE
ASKING THE LAW REVISION
COMMISSION TO FINALLY UNIFY ALL
THOSE. TERMS AND IN LAW SCHOOL,
YOU'LL YOU'RE TAUGHT CONSISTENCY
. WELL, WE FOUND. MASSIVE
INCONSISTENCY IN THE CODES AND
THAT'S WHAT THE LAW REVISION
COMMISSION WILL CORRECT. IT'S
TIME TO DO IT. IT'S TIME TO
MODERNIZE THE CODES AND BRING AS
FORWARD TO NON OFFENSIVE TERMS.
LANDLORD FOR EXAMPLE, IS FOUND
BY MANY PEOPLE TO BE AN
OFFENSIVE TERM. IT'S TIME TO
BRING US UP AS THE CALIFORNIA
LEGISLATURE HAS BECOME
ACCUSTOMED IN MANY OTHER AREAS
OF THE LAW. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN I VOTE. THANK YOU. AH
MOVING ON TO FOLKS ALSO HERE IN
ROOM 2100 WISHING TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR A B 25 OH, THREE.
PLEASE APPROACH THE SCREEN,
SEEING NONE MODERATOR MOVING TO
THE PHONE LINES. LET'S OPEN THEM
UP FOR A B. 25 OH, THREE. THOSE
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT WITH
THEIR NAME AFFILIATION ENTITLE.
OUR POSITION, RIGHT? LIKE TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR BABIES TO 50
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO THIS TIME.
AND WE HAVE ONE COMING UP. THANK
YOU. FOLLOW THE SAME PROTOCOL.
UM MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE
NO PRIMARY OPPOSITION WITNESSES
. AH, SO FOLKS HERE IN ROOM 2100
WISHING TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO
25. OH, THREE, PLEASE APPROACH.
SERIOUSLY I SAW THAT YAWN LIKE,
UM, SEEING NOBODY APPROACHED.
LET'S MOVE OVER TO THE
MODERATOR. SAME THING. THOSE
WISHING TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION
WITH WITH THEIR NAME,
AFFILIATION AND POSITION TO A B
25. OH, THREE. THANK YOU AGAIN
IF YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO A B 25 OR THREE,
PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE KNOWN
QUEUING UP. THANK YOU BRING IT
BACK TO THE DAIS COLLEAGUES.
SEEING. THAT THAT WAS CUTE. WE
DO HAVE EMOTION BY SENATOR
DURAZO. UM, I DO HAVE A
QUESTION. MAYBE I CAN POSE IT TO
THE AUTHOR WORTH TO YOUR
WITNESS. SO THIS BILL IS
RECONCILE NG. I DIDN'T REALIZE
THERE WERE 25 SOME ODDSYNONYMS
FOR LANDLORD AND TENANT. HMM
WOULDN'T RECONCILE. IT ACTUALLY
WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE
LEGISLATION FOR THAT THIS BILL
WOULD DO A STUDY TO MAKE SURE WE
CAPTURE THEM ALL AND THEN GIVE A
RECOMMENDATION TO THE
LEGISLATURE OF THE BEST WAY TO
PROCEED. CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME
THE MOST COMMON LIKE TOP THREE
WORDS FOR LANDLORD AND TOP THREE
FOR TENANT WITHIN THE SAME CODE
SECTION WE FOUND UNDER THE
HIGHER REAL PROPERTY IT'S
REFERRED TO AS LANDLORD. AH,
LESS SORE. AND RENTAL PROPERTY
OWNER. ACTUALLY THERE ARE FOUR
DIFFERENT TYPES, UH, DESCRIBING
THE SAME ENTITY OR PERSON.
WITHIN THE SAME CODE SECTION.
EVERY TIME WE HAVE GONE INTO MEN
, THE SAME CODE SECTION SOMEBODY
FINDS A NEW WAY TO DESCRIBE THE
SAME PERSON. AND NOW WE'VE GOT
TO FIX IT. AND THIS IS THE
PERFECT LAW REVISION COMMISSION
HAS AGREED TO DO IT. THEY THINK
IT'S APPROPRIATE AND SO DO WE.
SO TENANT. YOU HAVE TENANT
LESSEE? YES WHAT ELSE? UM UM.
TENANT LESSEE OCCUPANT. DIDN'T
THINK THAT THIS WAS SUCH A
SITUATION YOU BUT ALL RIGHT? UM
IT SEEMS THAT WE HAVE A MOTION
BY SENATOR DURAZO. UM DO YOU
HAVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS? I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MADAM
CLERK. CALENDARS. THIS. NUMBER
20. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS BUT
FIRST BE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HAMBURG. GORGEOUS GORGEOUS, I
COPY HERO RUSSELL. SO I GONZALES
GONZALEZ. I HERZBERG HERZBERG. I
JONES LAYERED BLARED. I'M
ACQUIRE STERN. STERN. I WIENER.
YOU HAVE 6 TO 0 WITH MEMBERS
MISSING, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL KEEP
THIS ITEM OPEN. THANK YOU,
ASSEMBLYWOMAN. MY UNDERSTANDING
. YOU ALSO BE, UH, FILLING IN ON
FILE ITEM NUMBER NINE FOR
ASSEMBLYWOMAN CARILLO. AND 41
FOR SOMEBODY MEMBERS. SALUS IS
THAT CORRECT? CORRECT ALRIGHT,
LET'S START WITH FILE ITEM
NUMBER 9 TO 3 TO NINE MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE
AMENDMENTS WITH THIS BILL. DOES
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CARILLO ACCEPT
THOSE AMENDMENTS IN FULL? YES
ALRIGHT, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. QUÊ
ON BEHALF OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CARILLO. I'M PROUD TO PRESENT A
B 23 29. WHICH WOULD MAKE IT
EASIER FOR CALIFORNIA SCHOOLS TO
CONNECT FAMILIES IN NEED WITH
NONPROFIT COMMUNITY VISION
PROVIDERS. SO THEY CAN RECEIVE A
FULL VISION. EXAMINE BLESSES
AFTER REFERRAL FROM THE SCHOOL
NURSE. AGAIN THE MEMBER
APPRECIATES THE COMMITTEE STUFF
AND IS HAPPY TO ACCEPT THOSE
AMENDMENTS. AMENDMENTS
PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN SCHOOL
DISTRICTS AND COMMUNITY VISION
PROVIDERS ARE ALREADY HAPPENING
AND SUCCESSFUL. SCHOOLS NURSES
ARE TASKED WITH CONDUCTING
VISION SCREENINGS AND WHERE
THOSE PARTNERSHIPS EXIST. THE
SCHOOL NURSE CAN THEN REFER THE
STUDENT TO PROVIDER FOR FULL
EXAMINE GLASSES OF A PROBLEM IS
IDENTIFIED. WHEN THIS HAPPENS,
FAMILIES IN NEED ARE RECEIVING A
SPECIALTY SERVICE FREE OF CHARGE
THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO
OTHERWISE. HOWEVER THERE IS ONE
POINT OF FRICTION THAT WE NEED
TO ALLOW SCHOOL TO MODIFY, AND
THAT IS THAT PARENTS MUST OPT IN
ANY FORM MUST BE RETURNED FOR
THE EXAM. ADMISSION EXAMS ARE
NONINVASIVE PROVIDERS ARE
BACKGROUND CHECKED AND REQUIRED
BY EXISTING LAW AND SERVICES ARE
PROVIDED WITH DISTRICT STAFF
PRESENT. THIS BILL WILL STILL
ENSURE THAT PARENTS ARE INFORMED
OF THE AVAILABILITY OF VISION
EXAMS FROM A COMMUNITY PROVIDER.
HOWEVER WE CAN'T JUST ACCEPT
THAT THE FATE OF THE CHILD'S
LEARNING OUTCOMES MAY REST ON A
MISPLACED PIECE OF PAPERWORK.
AVAILABLE OVER THE FUN TO
TESTIFY OUR TWO WITNESSES TO
TALK MORE ABOUT THE BILL
WILLIAMS CELESTINE, DIRECTOR OF
WELLNESS PROGRAM AT L, A USD AND
RAGING PUFFER, EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE TRUST FOR
CHILDREN'S HEALTH. I WILL SAY I
WAS ONE OF THOSE KIDS THAT
NEEDED GLASSES AND COULDN'T SEE
IN SCHOOL. UH AND I WAS ALSO ONE
OF THOSE KIDS THAT HAD PARENTS
THAT WORK SEVENTIES A WEEK AND
THAT PAPERWORK OPTING THAT LOST
, AND SO WHEN I FINALLY GOT
GLASSES, MY LIFE TOTALLY SHIFTED
AND WAS TRANSFORMED THE MEANING
WILL TO REMOVE BARRIERS FOR
STUDENTS TO LEARN. IT'S
IMPORTANT AND WITH THAT, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
AUTHOR INDICATED, WE HAVE A
WILLIAMS CELESTINE ON THE LINE
IN A MARY JANE PUFFER CAN BOTH
OF YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS EACH
TWO MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR.
PLEASE MR CELESTINE, THE THIS IS
YOUR OPPORTUNITY, PLEASE. YES
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON OF
HEARING MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. WELLNESS PROGRAMS.
DIRECTOR L. A UNIFIED UM,
REALLY, THANK YOU FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. I'M
TOUCHING IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR OUR
DISTRICT AND STUDENT. UNIFIED IS
PLEASED TO SPONSOR SIMPLY UILD
23 29, WHICH WOULD AUTHORIZE
DISTRICTS TO ENTER INTO A
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH
THE VISION EXAMINATION PROVIDER
AND ALLOW PARENTS TO OPT OUT.
OUR DISTRICT SCHOOL I. HEALTH
PROGRAMS INCLUDE SCHOOL BASED
VISION SCREENINGS, WHICH ARE
ADMINISTERED BY THE NURSES.
THINGS ARE BEING REFERRED FOR
EXAMS. THEY'RE EITHER SCHOOL
BASED OR PROVIDED BY AN OUTSIDE
ORGANIZATION AND ITS ELIGIBLE
THEY RECEIVED FREE CLASSES. AT L
. A UNIFIED EVERY STUDENT
RECEIVED A VISION SCREENING AND
SPECIFIC GRADES AS REQUIRED BY
CURRENT LAW, HOWEVER, WHEN IT
COMES TO VISION EXAM, STUDENTS
ARE EITHER REFERRED TO OUTSIDE
PROVIDERS OR OFFER SERVICES
WITHIN THE SCHOOL BY VISION
PROVIDER. WALLACE AND THEN IS
NOT REQUIRED FOR SCREENING.
PARENT CONSENT IS REQUIRED FOR
AN EYE EXAMINATION. THE GOAL OF
A B 23 29 PROVIDE MORE STUDENTS
ACCESS TO NO COST VISION EXAM.
BY ALLOWING SCHOOL DISTRICT THE
ENTRANCE WITH MOU WITH THE
VISION EXAMINATION PROVIDER AND
THEN PROVIDE A REASONABLE AMOUNT
OF TIME TO GIVE OUR PARENTS THE
OPTION TO OPT OUT FOR THE
SCHEDULED VISION EXAMS, EXAMS
AND PROCEDURES ARE NOT INVASIVE.
PARENTS WILL HAVE A CHOICE TO
OPT OUT. IN ADDITION, THIS
BUILDS PERMISSIVE THOSE WHO
DISTRICTS THAT DESIRE TO OFFER
THESE PROGRAMS AND THAT IT DOES
NOT CREATE A MANDATED EXCUSES
NOT TO LEVERAGE THE PROVISION.
SUBJECT BILL L. A UNIFIED IS
HOPING TO DEVELOP A CONSENT
FORM. THERE WILL BE AN
ELECTRONIC FORMAT IN ORDER TO
ALLOW OUR PARENTS REGARDING TO
EASILY ACCESS INFORMATION
REGARDING THE AVAILABLE SERVICES
AND PROVIDING NECESSARY
DOCUMENTATION, INCLUDING THOSE
FOR OPTING OUT. FOR THESE
REASONS, UNIFIED IS PROUD TO
SPONSOR A B 23 29 URGES YOUR
VOTE ON THIS IMPORTANT BILL TO
INCREASE ACCESS FOR OUR
STUDENTS. THANK YOU. MOVING ON
TO MARY JANE PUFFER, WHO WILL
HAVE TWO MINUTES. TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR A B 23 29. HI GOOD
MORNING, GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M MARY JANES PUFFER, EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE LOS ANGELES
TRUST FOR CHILDREN'S HEALTH. THE
TRUST IS AN INDEPENDENT. FIVE OH
ONE C THAT BRIDGES, HEALTH AND
EDUCATION TO ACHIEVE STUDENT
WELLNESS. WE'RE PROUD PARTNER OF
L, A USB AND LAKE. OH WE SUPPORT
AND FACILITATE HEALTH
PARTNERSHIPS WITH SCHOOLS,
TRAINED STUDENT HEALTH LEADERS,
MANAGER HEALTH DATA AND
DEMONSTRATE HOW ACCESS TO CARE
FOR AND IMPROVE A STUDENT'S
ABILITY TO SUCCEED IN SCHOOL TO
OUR DATA EXCHANGE. WE ARE KEENLY
AWARE OF HEALTH, CHILD HEALTH
AND HOW IT IS DIMINISHED DUE TO
THE PANDEMIC. THE FAMILIES WE
SERVE ARE PRIMARILY LOW INCOME
AND 90% REPRESENTED STUDENTS OF
COLOR. HEALTH CARE AND SCREENING
IS HE'S ESSENTIAL SO THAT WE CAN
CATCH CHILDREN BEFORE THEY FAIL.
TWO ARE ORAL HEALTH PROGRAM. WE
SCREEN CHILDREN THIS PAST YEAR
AND THERE WAS A 100% INCREASE IN
THE INCIDENCE OF URGENT DENTAL
DISEASE. SIMILARLY I WOULD
ASSUME THAT THE NUMBER OF
CHILDREN WITH VISUAL IMPAIRMENTS
HAS ALSO DRAMATICALLY INCREASED
DUE TO LACK OF CARE. IN THE U.
S. MORE THAN 20% OF SCHOOL AGE.
CHILDREN HAVE VISION PROBLEMS,
AND IT'S BEEN SHOWN THAT TITLE
ONE STUDENTS ARE 2 TO 3 TIMES
MORE LIKELY THAN NON TITLE ONE
STUDENTS TO HAVE UNDETECTED OR
UNTREATED VISION PROBLEMS.
JOHN'S HAPPENED. STUDY WAS
PUBLISHED IN SEPTEMBER. 2021
CONDUCTED FROM 2016 TO 2019,
ANALYZING THE PERFORMANCE OF
2300 STUDENTS, GRADES 3 TO 7.
WHO RECEIVED VISUAL SCREENING,
EYE EXAMS AND EYEGLASSES.
READING SCORES INCREASED
SIGNIFICANTLY AFTER ONE YEAR FOR
STUDENTS WHO GOT CLASS WAS
COMPARED TO STUDENTS WHO GOT
CLASSES LATER. THERE WAS ALSO
SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN MATH
FOR STUDENTS IN ELEMENTARY
GRADES AND STRIKING IMPROVEMENTS
FOR GIRLS SPECIAL AS STUDENTS
AND STUDENTS WHO HAD BEEN AMONG
ALL THOSE PERFORMING. REQUIRING
PARENTAL CONSENT FOR NO COST
DECISION EXAMS CREATES AN
UNNECESSARY BARRIERS FOR
CHARACTERS WHO ARE MOST
VULNERABLE CHILDREN AND
FAMILIES. MAYBE 23 29 REMOVES A
BARRIER AND MOVED UP CLOSER TO
HEALTH EQUITY AND FOR THESE
REASONS LOS ANGELES TRUST FOR
CHILDREN'S HEALTH ISN'T
SUPPORTIVE. A B 23 29 URGES YOUR
ENTHUSIASTIC TYPE BOAT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, HAVING GONE
THROUGH OUR FORMAL WITNESSES
MOVING ON TO ROOM 2100 ANYONE
HERE WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT
FOR 23 29, PLEASE APPROACH THE
SCREEN. SEEN ON MODERATOR CAN
YOU PLEASE OPEN THE LINES?
ANYONE WISHING TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT IDENTIFYING THEIR NAME
THEIR POSITION AND AFFILIATION?
FOR 23 29. THANK YOU. AGAIN IF
YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OF
MAYBE 23 29, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
DEN ZERO AND WE DO HAVE SOMEONE
WITH SUPPORT FROM LINE 1 91.
LINE 1 91. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
YOUR PHONE ON MUTE. ALRIGHT
MODERATE. LET'S MOVE ON ANYBODY
ELSE IN THE QUEUE. WE HAVE NO
ONE ELSE IN. Q ALRIGHT, FOLLOW
THE SAME PROTOCOL. MY
UNDERSTANDING, THOUGH, IS WE
HAVE NO PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO 23 29 MOVING INTO
ROOM 2100. ANYONE WISHING TO
EXPRESS OPPOSITION, PLEASE
APPROACH THE SCREEN. SEEING
NONE. MODERATOR CAN YOU OPEN THE
LINES FOR THOSE WISHING TO
EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO ABBY 23 29
LIMITED TO THEIR NAME POSITION
IN AFFILIATION. TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO MAYBE 23 29,
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
AND WE HAVE NO ONE KILLING UP.
ALL RIGHT. BRING HIM BACK TO THE
DAIS. I HEARD THERE'S A MOTION
BY SENATOR HERTZBERG. COLLEAGUES
ANY ANY COMMENTS CENTER DRAWS.
OH THANK YOU. UM I JUST WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR. UM SEVERAL
YEARS AGO, THE FORMER
SUPERINTENDENT OF ALLAH USD
AUSTIN, BEUTNER STARTED THE
VISION TO LEARN AND I WAS JUST
PRETTY AMAZED AT. THE NUMBER OF
OUR CHILDREN AND YOUTH. WHO
NEEDS. GLASSES. THEY CAN'T SEE
ADEQUATELY AND HOW MUCH IT WAS
IMPACTING. THEIR ABILITY TO
LEARN. JUST JUST STAY AHEAD AS
THEY SHOULD. AND I JUST I'M GLAD
TO SEE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD
ON THAT. REMEMBER THE
PARTICULARS, BUT THERE WAS
SOMETHING THAT GOT IN THE WAY I
THINK HE HAD TO RAISE THE MONEY
TO PROVIDE ACTUALLY GO TO THE
SCHOOLS. THE MOBILE UNITS WENT
TO THE SCHOOLS. UM AND DID THE
EYE EXAM AND PROVIDED EYEGLASSES
. THEY WERE NEEDED ALL FOR FREE
, AND THEY HAD TO RAISE ALL THIS
PRIVATE SECTOR MONEY TO DO IT
WHEN A LOT OF THESE CHILDREN AND
YOUTH WERE ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAL
SO I HOPE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT WILL HELP HIM IN TERMS OF
CONTINUING OR EXPANDING THAT
PROGRAM. SO THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THANK
YOU, SENATOR HERTZBERG AND
SENATOR LAIRD. YEAH AS A MOVER
AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. UM,
I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON WHAT
SENATOR ALSO SAID, BECAUSE
MICKEY KANTOR WAS DEEPLY
INVOLVED IN THIS AND A WHOLE
HOST OF FOLKS AND THE STATISTICS
AND STORIES WERE NOTHING LESS
THAN EXTRAORDINARY. AND
HOLLISTER RUNS THE ORGANIZATION
NOW VISION TO LEARN AND JUST
DOING UNBELIEVABLY GOOD JOB VERY
LITTLE COST. IN GREAT IMPACTS TO
SO MANY STUDENTS WHO DIDN'T EVEN
KNOW AS YOU SUGGEST. IT'S AN
ATROCITY GLASSES. THIS IS GREAT
STUFF, AND I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THE
BILL. SECOND TIME. THANK YOU,
LAIRD. UH WHEN I WAS STARTING TO
RUN I MET WAS A LOCAL UM OD IN
SANTA CRUZ, WHO I KNEW FOR A
LONG TIME, WHO HAD A SERIES OF
STUDIES THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN
EYE CONDITIONS THAT WERE SO
SERIOUS THAT UNLESS THEY WERE
CAUGHT WHEN A KID WAS REALLY
YOUNG. THERE WAS ACTUALLY NON
REVERSIBLE DAMAGE. AND THAT HE
WE SHOULD DO THINGS ABOUT
SCREENING AND EXAMS AS KIDS
COMING TO SCHOOL, AND I KNOW UM
JUST JUST SORT OF GETS AT IT AND
I JUST POST TODAY. A PHOTO FROM
JURASSIC TIMES OF ME GRADUATING
FROM COLLEGE ACTUALLY HAD A
MILESTONE IN THAT REGARD THIS
LAST WEEK, AND I NOTICED I
WASN'T WEARING GLASSES. AND I
CARRIED THEM FOR EIGHT OR 10
YEARS AND WOULD PUT THEM ON IN
THE BACK OF THE ROOM. BUT IT WAS
NEVER FORCED IN A WAY THAT I
DIDN'T PERMANENTLY WEAR GLASSES
TILL I WAS 23. I SHOULD HAVE FOR
AT LEAST 10 YEARS BEFORE THAT,
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS TAKING
A STEP TOWARDS BOTH ISSUES. SO
UM, I KNOW YOU'RE JUST
PRESENTING THE BILL BUT PASSED
TO THE AUTHOR OF THAT THIS IS A
VERY WORTHY EFFORT. I LOOK
FORWARD TO VOTING FOR THE MOTION
THAT SENATOR HERTZBERG IS MADE
TOYS. EXCELLENT ALL RIGHT. WE DO
HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR
HERZBERG. ANY CLOSING COMMENTS
FROM YES. THIS BILL IS COMMON
SENSE. WE HAVE THESE PROGRAMS,
BUT PARENTS MUST OPT IN, UH AND
SOMETIMES THOSE PIECES OF PAPER
GET LOST ON THE WAY HOME. AND SO
THIS ENSURES THAT WE HAVE THE
AUTOMATIC AND WITH PARENTS BEING
ABLE TO OPT OUT STILL OUT THERE
WHICH WILL FACILITATE THINGS.
YOU STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO.
I'VE BEEN WEARING GLASSES, NON
SUBSTANCE. THEY'RE GREAT AND.
EXCITED FOR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE
TO SEE THE BOARD AND FEEL LIKE
THEY CAN LEARN. AND SO I THINK
THAT FOR ME, THAT'S THE MOST
EXCITING PART OF THE SPILL. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AND I VOTE.
ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? THE MOTION
IS DUE PASSES AMENDED, BUT FIRST
AMENDMENT RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HAMBURG. GORGEOUS CABALLERO. SO
GONZALES. ON BALANCE. I HERZBERG
HERZBERG, I JONES BLARED.
FLARED. I MCGUIRE. STERN STERN,
I WIENER. YOU HAVE 6 TO 0 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING, ALL RIGHT,
WE'LL KEEPTHAT OPEN THAT ITEM
OPEN AND THIS MOVING ON TO YOUR
LAST BILL OF THE DAY, LEAST IN
THIS COMMITTEE. THIS IS A B 23
69. YOU ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF
OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SALAS.
CORRECT CORRECT. UH MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE NO
AMENDMENTS CORRECT. ALRIGHT.
ANOTHER GOOD BILL WITH NO
OPPOSITION. I HOPE YOU CAN ALL
VOTE FOR AH A B 23 69 ON BEHALF
OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RUDY SALAS
ENCOURAGES ATTORNEYS TO TAKE ON
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS
CASES. AND REMOVE UNNECESSARY
HURDLES FOR SURVIVORS REQUESTING
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, RESTRAINING
ORDERS OR DVR OS. APPARENTLY
IT'S UP TO THE COURT TO DECIDE
TOWARD ATTORNEY'S FEES AND COSTS
IS A SURVIVOR WINS THEIR DVR.
OKAY IN SOME INCIDENTS, COURTS
ARE ACTUALLY CRYING SURVIVORS TO
MEET MORE REQUIREMENTS THAT
THEIR ABUSERS WHEN AWARDING
ATTORNEY'S FEES. BECAUSE OF
COURSE, ARE INCONSISTENTLY
APPLYING THE CURRENT LAW. MAYBE
23 69 FIXES THIS PROCESS, VERY
CRYING THE COURT AFTER ISSUING A
DVR Ó TO ORDER ABUSERS TO PAY
FOR SURVIVORS, ATTORNEY'S FEES
AND COSTS. THIS WILL INCENTIVIZE
MORE ATTORNEYS TO TAKE UP AND
REPRESENT SURVIVORS IN THESE
CASES. THE BILL WOULD ALSO ALLOW
THE COURTS TO ORDER ABUSERS WHO
FILE FRIVOLOUS SUITS TO PAY
ATTORNEY'S FEES AND COSTS.
STOPPING AT VISAS FROM FILING
MULTIPLE RESTRAINING ORDER
REQUESTS THAT ARE MEANT ONLY TO
INTIMIDATE AND HARASS SURVIVORS
. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY
VOTE. THANK YOU. MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAVE A
QUARRY FERNANDEZ ON THE PHONE,
WHO IS A LEAD WITNESS IN SUPPORT
MARTYR. DO WE HAVE A QUARRY
HERNANDEZ ON THE LINE? ONE
MOMENT, PLEASE. I DO NOT SAY
THAT THEY'RE ON THE PHONE. I
WOULD LIKE TO QUEUE UP BY
PUSHING 10. ONE DAY, OKAY? OKAY
DID WE HEAR YOUR VOICE? SORRY.
DID YOU HEAR ME? SORRY. IN OKAY.
OKAY. SORRY. THIS IS COREY
HERNANDEZ. I'M A STAFF ATTORNEY
AT THE FAMILY VIOLENCE APPELLATE
PROJECT, AND WE'RE PROUD TO
SPONSOR THIS BILL. WE THINK THIS
MAY BE THE CHAIR AND THE STAFF
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SALAS FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GARCIA FOR HER. STEERING US
THROUGH THE COMMITTEE TODAY. UM
AS MENTIONED THIS BILL 80 23 69
IS AIMED AT CHANGING ATTORNEY'S
FEES AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
RESTRAINING ORDER CASES TO DO
THREE BASIC THINGS FIRST. WE
WANT TO DISCOURAGE FRIVOLOUS OR
INTIMIDATING REQUESTS BY ABUSE
OF PARTIES. SECOND WE WANT TO
ENCOURAGE MORE ATTORNEYS TO TAKE
MORE LOW INCOME SURVIVORS. CASES
CURRENTLY OVER 90% OF SURVIVORS
ARE UNREPRESENTED AND
RESTRAINING ORDER CASES. AND
THIRD. WE WANT TO EMPOWER MORE
SURVIVORS TO BRING THEIR CASES
WITH REPRESENTATION WITHOUT
HAVING TO WORRY THAT THEY COULD
BE LIABLE FOR THEIR OWN
ATTORNEY'S FEES AND THE OTHER
PARTIES. UM WHICH COULD HAPPEN
EVEN IF THEY WIN. BECAUSE IF
THEY WIN, AND THEY HAVE COUNSEL
, THE COURT DENIES THEM ANY
ATTORNEYS HE'S LEAVING THEM ON
THE HOOK, EVEN IF THEY HAD TO GO
INTO DEBT TO BE ABLE TO HIRE AN
ATTORNEY FOR THEMSELVES. OR IF
THEY LOSE, WHICH THEY COULD LOSE
THEIR REQUEST, EVEN IF ABUSES
HAPPENED, OF COURSE IN DENIAL,
RESTRAINING ORDER, EVEN IF THEY
FIND ABUSES OCCURRED. THEN THEY
COULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR
THOUSANDS OR MORE IN ATTORNEY'S
FEES FOR THE ABUSER. SO WHAT?
MAYBE 23 69. DOES THIS CHANGE
HOW THIS WORKS AND BRINGS THE D
V P THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
PREVENTION ACT MORE IN LINE WITH
OTHER REMEDIAL STATUTES. THAT
MAKES IT EASIER FOR SURVIVORS.
PETITIONERS TO GET ATTORNEYS
SEASON HARDER FOR ABUSERS WHO
ARE RESPONDENTS HAVING
REPRESENTATION CAN MAKE ALL THE
DIFFERENCE IN ANY COURT CASE,
ESPECIALLY FOR SURVIVOR. WHO
HAVE INTRODUCED EVIDENCE
FOLLOWING COMPLEX RULES BASED
THE PERSON WHO ABUSED THEM IN
COURT AND TESTIFY ABOUT PERSONAL
DETAILS IN A VERY PUBLIC
SETTING, WHICH CAN BE
TRAUMATIZING. SO THIS BILL
PROMOTES THE LEGISLATURE'S GOALS
OF PREVENTING FURTHER ABUSED AND
NOT REQUIRING SURVIVORS, FUND OR
FUND HEROIN ABUSE AND THEIR OWN
ABUSER. THEREFORE I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST FOR IVO AND SUPPORT AND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK
YOU. MOVING TO ROOM 2100 ANY
FOLKS WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT
FOR A B 23 69? PLEASE APPROACH
THE SCREEN. SEEING NONE MODERATE
. LET'S MOVE TO THE LINES, ANY
FOLKS WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT
FOR 23 69, PLEASE ALLOW THEM TO
DO SO AND LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS
TO NAME PARTY OR NAME POSITION
AND AFFILIATION. THANK YOU.
PLEASE. PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO IF
YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT
FOR A B 23 69. AND FOR A MOMENT,
PLEASE. ONE COMING UP.
AND LINE 27. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
. MY NAME IS STACY LAKE. I AM
WITH LAW WORK OUT A W W U R K
AND WE WORK WITH PROCESS A LIT
AGAINST AND CONNECTING THEM WITH
NON LAWYER LEGAL SERVICES. AND
WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS FILM.
THANK YOU, MODERATOR. ANYBODY
ELSE IN THE QUEUE? WE DO HAVE
ONE MORE AND THAT'S LINE 1 69.
HELLO MY NAME IS ANGELA ANIMAL
ASSISTANCE HERE IN SACRAMENTO,
CALIFORNIA. I'VE ALSO COMPLETED
TRAINING. UM AND I WOULD I'M IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES ON RECORD IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, BRING
IT BACK TO ROOM 2100 ANY FOLKS
WISHING TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION.
PLEASE APPROACH THE SCREEN.
SEEING NONE. MODERATOR CAN YOU
CUE UP FOLKS WISHING TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO 23 69? THANK YOU
IF YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION. HE BEATS 23 69,
PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO. WE
HAVE KNOWN QUEUING UP, OKAY,
BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS
COLLEAGUES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
WE HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR
HERTZBERG. ANY CLOSING COMMENTS
. RESPECTFULLY AS FOR AND I
VOTE. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS HAMBURG.
GORGEOUS GORGEOUS, I CABALLERO
RUSSELL. BUT ALSO I GONZALES
COMES ALL AS I HERZBERG
HERZBERG, I JONES LAYERED
GLARED. I MCGUIRE. STERN STERN.
I WIENER. YOU HAVE 6 TO 0 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING, ALL RIGHT,
WE'LL KEEP THAT ITEM OPEN NOW.
MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM NUMBER 21
17 94 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GIBSON, WHO HAS FANTASTIC SOCKS
ON TODAY. I WAS LOOKING AT THOSE
EARLIER. AH CAN YOU CONFIRM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S? THERE ARE NO
AMENDMENTS TO THIS BILL. NO
AMENDMENTS TO THIS BILL.
ALRIGHT. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM MR
CHAIRMAN AND SENATORS. THANK YOU
FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT
ASSEMBLY BILL 17 94, WHICH
ALLOWS CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS
A CHANCE TO SAFELY STAY
CONNECTED. UM, WITH THEIR
FAMILIES AND THEIR AND COMMUNITY
. SPECIFICALLY THIS BILL WOULD
DO THE FOLLOWING ENSURE POST
ADOPTION CONTRACTS. TO CONTINUE
VISITATIONS BETWEEN SIBLINGS AND
ADDRESS PRIOR TO TERMINATION OF
PARENTAL RIGHTS. SECOND ENSURE
SIBLINGS VISITATIONS CONTINUE
PAST THE END OF PARENTAL RIGHTS
, CLARIFIES THAT THE ADULT
SIBLINGS EVEN IF PREVIOUSLY
ADOPTED ARE VIEWED AS SIBLINGS
UNDER THE LAW, NEARLY 100 TIMES
A DAY. A CHILD IN CALIFORNIA IS
PLACED INTO FOSTER IN FOSTER
CARE. LOS ANGELES COUNTY ALONE
HAS OVER 33,000 UNDERSCORED
33,000 FOSTER YOUTH. AND IT
MAKES SENSE FOR THESE CHILDREN
WHO WANT TO LIVE WITH THEIR
BIRTH PARENTS TO HAVE AN OPTION
TO KEEP FAMILIES CONNECTED. IN
SOME CASES, THE ADOPTION FAILED
AND THE CHILDREN HAS RE
ESTABLISHED A RELATIONSHIP WITH
THEIR PARENTS HAVING FAMILIES
CONNECTED DURING TIMES PROVIDE
SUPPORT AS A MEMBER OF THE
SELECT COMMITTEE ON NATIVE
AMERICAN AFFAIRS. I AM ALSO
AWARE OF THE CRISIS WITH NATIVE
AMERICAN FOSTER YOUTH FAMILY
CULTURE CONNECTION ABSOLUTELY
MATTERS. EVERY CHILD DESERVES A
EVERY CHILD DESERVES TO FAIL
SAFE, WANTED LOVE AND HEARD BY
COMMUNITY THEY IDENTIFY WITH AND
FOSTER COMMUNITY CONNECTION AND
FOSTER COMMUNITY CONNECTION WITH
THAT FAMILY ASSEMBLY BILL 17 94
PROVIDES A POWER FORWARD FOR
THESE FAMILIES JOINING ME TO
PROVIDE SUPPORTING TESTIMONY AND
PROVIDING ANY TECHNICAL RESPONSE
TO ANY QUESTIONS BODY MAY HAVE
IS MISS JULIA MCCORMICK. SHE'S A
SENIOR POLICY ATTORNEY FOR
CHILDREN LAW CENTERS OF
CALIFORNIA. I BELIEVE SHE IS ON
THE LINE. THANK YOU. AS THE
AUTHOR INDICATED, UM MR MODERATE
. DO WE HAVE A JULIAN MCCORMICK
ON THE LINE TO SERVE AS LEAD
WITNESS AND SUPPORT? JULIA ON
THE LINE. THANK YOU. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
. THANK YOU. CHAIR AMBERG AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THANK YOU
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GIBSON, YOUR
PASSION AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO
THE YOUTH IN FOSTER CARE IN
CALIFORNIA IS SO APPRECIATED. WE
ARE SO PROUD SPONSOR THIS BILL.
AND JUST BRIEFLY TO HIGHLIGHT
SOME OF WHAT SOME OF THE MEMBER
GIBSON HAS ALREADY MENTIONED TO
YOU. UM I DO WORK AT THE
CHILDREN'S LAW CENTER OF
CALIFORNIA, WHERE THE LARGEST
CHILDREN'S LEGAL SERVICES
ORGANIZATION IN THE NATION AND
WE DO ADVOCATE FOR OVER 35,000
YEARS BECAUSE WE COVER LOS
ANGELES, SACRAMENTO AND PLASTER
COUNTIES. I WAS PREVIOUSLY A
CASE CARRYING ATTORNEY FOR THE
CHILDREN'S LAW CENTER AND I
REPRESENTED CHILDREN AND YOUTH
AND DEPENDENCY COURT DAILY. IN
FOSTER CARE SYSTEM IF A CHILD
CANNOT SAFELY BE REUNITED WITH
THEIR FAMILY ADOPTION IS THE
PREFERRED PLAN. OPPONENTS SEE IS
CRITICAL FOR OUR CLIENT. BUT
THERE'S ALSO A GROWING
RECOGNITION THAT FOR MANY
ADOPTEES, IT'S CRITICAL TO
MAINTAIN CONNECTION TO THEIR
BIOLOGICAL FAMILY AND COMMUNITY
AND THEN MAINTAINING THESE
CONNECTIONS CAN OFTEN BE SAFE
AND PROVIDES SIGNIFICANT
BENEFITS. I'VE SEEN COUNTLESS
CASES THAT WHILE ADOPTION CAN
BRING GREAT JOY, THERE'S
SIGNIFICANT GRIEF, LOSS AND
TRAUMA WHEN A CHILD IS
PERMANENTLY CUT OFF SMALL
CONNECTION TO THEIR FAMILY AND
COMMUNITY. AND THE IMPORTANCE OF
MAINTAINING SIBLING CONNECTIONS
. POST ADOPTION IS ALREADY
RECOGNIZED IN THE LAW. A B 17 94
WOULD STRENGTHEN THE EXISTING
LOT TO ENSURE THAT THESE
MEETINGS DO TAKE PLACE TO
DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF POST
ADOPTION CONTACT BETWEEN
SIBLINGS. UNFORTUNATELY WHILE
THE LAW EXISTS, WE RARELY SEE
THESE MEETINGS TAKE PLACE AND
TOO OFTEN WE SEE OUR CLIENTS,
PLEASE ALL CONTACT WITH THEIR
SIBLINGS. AND ADDITIONALLY THIS
BILL WOULD CREATE PATHWAYS TO
REINSTATE PARENTAL RIGHTS FOR
YOUTH WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND
THEN THEIR BEST INTEREST. I
HEARD YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS
IMPORTANT LEGISLATION. THANK YOU
FOR CONSIDERATION AND AGAIN.
THANK ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GIBSON
FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND
STRENGTHEN CALIFORNIA FAMILIES.
THANK YOU. ALRIGHT BRINGING IT
BACK TO ROOM 2100 IN THE
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR A B 17 94, PLEASE
APPROACH THE SCREEN. CNN
MODERATOR, CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN
UP THE LINES? ANYONE WISHING TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR 17 94?
MODERATOR. OH, I'M SORRY IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT
FOR A B 17 94, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO. AND OUR FIRST PERSON
IS LYING. 1 50, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON, REBECA GONZALEZ.
FOR THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
SOCIAL WORKERS, CALIFORNIA'S
CHAPTER IN SUPPORT. QUÊ. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. ONE MOMENT,
PLEASE. AND OUR NEXT PERSON IS
SUPPORT IS LYING TO 01. PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GEORGE CHARAMBA DO ON
BEHALF OF THE A C L U CALIFORNIA
ACTION AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE
IN FEW. ALRIGHT THANK YOU. ONE
MORE. ONE MORE COMING UP. I'M
SORRY. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
BUYING TWO OH, THREE. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
PECULIARLY LAW OFFICE OF DOLING
MEDFORD AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, FOLLOW THE SAME
PROTOCOL. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE
DO NOT HAVE ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION MOVING
INTO ROOM 2100. INDIVIDUALS
WISHING TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO
A B 17 94 PLEASE APPROACH.
SEEING AND MODERATE. CAN YOU
OPEN THE LINES? ANY INDIVIDUALS
WISHING TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO
17 94? THIS IS THEIR
OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU AGAIN IF
YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION
TO 94, PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN
ZERO. AND WE HAVE NO ONE QUEUING
UP. OKAY? BRING IT BACK TO THE
DAIS COLLEAGUES. COMMENTS,
MOTIONS. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A
MOTION BY SENATOR GONZALEZ, WITH
THE AUTHOR LIKE TO OFFER SOME
CONCLUDING REMARKS VERY BRIEFLY
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR
AND ALSO TO MR CHAIRMAN. REAL
QUICK. IT'S A STORY THAT I'VE
TOLD BEFORE THE OTHER HOUSE. UM
THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN WHO
APPEARED AS OE OF MY WITNESS
WHO WAS A TWIN BROTHER, WHO WAS
IN THE FOSTER CARE. FIVE OF HIS
SIBLINGS WERE SEPARATED. AND HE
DID NOT KNOW THAT HE WAS
ATTENDED THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL AS
HIS TWIN BROTHER. UM AND WHEN
THE SOCIAL WORKER BROKE WAS
GETTING READY TO BREAK, UM, A
MAKING SURE THAT THEY WERE
BROUGHT TOGETHER AND BROKE A
RULE BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS
NECESSARY. FOR THEM TO REUNITE
TWO WEEKS BEFORE THAT TOOK
PLACE. THE YOUNG MAN WAS KILLED.
THE BROTHER. HIS TWIN BROTHER
WAS ACTUALLY KILLED TWO WEEKS
BEFORE THE REUNIFICATION TOOK
PLACE. THIS BILL WILL MAKE SURE
UM THAT IN FACT, THESE
CHILDREN'S STAY CONNECTED. WITH
THEIR BIOLOGICAL SIBLINGS. TO
THE EXTENT THAT THEY CAN, THIS
BILL HAS RECEIVED BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT. THIS BILL STRENGTHENS
THE FAMILY PROCESS AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASKED, BUT I VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE
EMOTION BY SENATOR GONZALEZ.
MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL? THE MOTION IS DUE PAST
BUT FIRST WE RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES
UMBERG. HAMBURG. I'VE GORGEOUS,
GORGEOUS I CABALLERO RUSSELL.
AYE, GONZALEZ GONZALEZ. I
HERZBERG HERZBERG. I JONES
FLARED. CLEARED. I MCGUIRE
STERN. STERN. I WIENER. YOU HAVE
HUSING 7 TO 0 WITH MEMBERS
MISSING. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL KEEP
THAT ITEM OPEN. I'M I FEEL VERY
BAD FOR ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
NAZARIAN, WHO IS NOT HERE. SO I
GUESS WE WILL BE MOVING TO
ASSEMBLE THE MEMBER STONE. CHAIR
OF ASSEMBLY, JUDICIAL AND JUST
IN PERFECT TIME, SENATOR AMBER.
THANK YOU. SENATOR BORDERS. I
UNDERSTAND YOU'VE DONE
OUTSTANDING JOB AS CHAIR TODAY.
SO YES, OUT STATE. I'M I'M IN.
I'M IN JEOPARDY BEING DEPOSED,
APPARENTLY SO. ARE WE NEVER HAVE
A CORE? UM YEAH.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DON'T THANK YOU
FOR BEING PATIENT. IT'S BEEN
SUCH A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE SEEN
YOU, BUT IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU
AGAIN, RIGHT? R RIGHT, SPEND A
FEW HOURS TOGETHER THIS MORNING
FILE ITEM NUMBER 12 A B 29 58
THE ASSEMBLY. SIMILARLY
COMMITTEE BILL CONCERNING THE
JUDICIARY. GO AHEAD. THIS IS THE
ANNUAL BAR DUES BILL. I THINK
THE BAR IS PROBABLY VERY HAPPY.
THIS IS MY LAST ONE. BUT THIS
AND THIS BILL WHAT WE DO EVERY
YEAR AND WE SWAPPED THEM AS YOU
KNOW BETWEEN COMMITTEES, AND
THAT'S GOOD THIS YEAR. WE'RE NOT
GRANTING THE INCREASE THAT HAD
BEEN ASKED FOR BUT GIVING THE
AUDITOR A CHANCE TO REALLY LOOK
AT WHAT THE FINANCES ARE IN
ORDER TO JUSTIFY WHICH I THINK
SERVES ALL OF US. AND THE BILL
ALSO IS LOOKING AT. IN THIS
PARTICULAR VERSION WORKING WITH
THE COMMITTEE, AND I WANT TO
THANK YOUR YOUR COMMITTEE
STAFFER WORKING US WITH THIS
CLEARLY BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN
BEEN A BIT OF CONTROVERSY THIS
YEAR OVER THE BAR'S DISCIPLINARY
ACTIONS, AND THEN SOME
CONTROVERSY ABOUT SOME OF THE
OTHER UNDERTAKINGS OF THE BARS
TAKEN IN THIS BILL IS MEANT TO
CURTAIL SOME OF THAT. FROM MY
STANDPOINT, AND I BELIEVE THE
CHAIR ALSO FEELS THAT EVEN WHEN
WE NEED TO EXPAND ACCESS TO
JUSTICE WHEREVER WE CAN. WE ALSO
RELY ON THE BAR TO BE THE
DISCIPLINARY ORGANIZATION AND
WITH SOME OF THE HIGH PROFILE
CASES THAT HAVE COME UP THIS
THIS LAST YEAR. THAT
DISCIPLINARY OBLIGATION NEEDS
CERTAINLY TO BE STRENGTHENED.
AND IN WORKING WITH SOME OF THE
BAR TRUSTEES, WE KNOW THAT THERE
ARE SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THAT.
BUT BEFORE WE EXPAND THEIR
ABILITY TO EXPAND PRACTICE OF
LAW INTO SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS
THAT ACCOUNTABILITY OF THOSE WHO
ARE PERFORMING THOSE ACTIONS IN
THE THREAT THAT THAT POTENTIALLY
MEANS TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE
SERIOUSLY. AND WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE BAR HAS SET
THEMSELVES UP TO DO THE
DISCIPLINE THAT THAT THEY REALLY
NEED TO DO. SO THAT'S PRETTY
MUCH THE PARDEW'S BILL. THIS
YEAR. WE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH
THIS EFFORTS AND IN THE FUTURE
TO WORK WITH THE BAR ON THIS
PROCESS AND HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE BAR
AND THE LEGISLATURE OF OUR
EXPECTATIONS AND THEIR
EXPECTATIONS IN THE LAST NUMBER
OF YEARS. IF I THINK ON PRETTY
WELL THE THIS CURRENT BOARD OF
TRUSTEES UNDERSTANDS A LOT
BETTER THAN PREVIOUS ONES. ABOUT
WHAT THE LEGISLATURES.
MOTIVATIONS ARE WHAT OUR
INTERESTS ARE ENSURING THAT
THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST JOB OF
KEEPING THE PUBLIC SAFE WITHIN
WITH SUCH A SIGNIFICANT PRACTICE
OF THE PRACTICE OF LAW. SO NOW
HERE WE HAVE RUBEN DURAN, WHO IS
CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF THE BAR
TRUSTEES TO SPEAK. LEO WILSON,
WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,
AND SHE'S HERE TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS, AND WE ALSO HAVE GINA
AMATO. AND LEAF AREN FROM THE
PUBLIC SIDE OF THINGS, WHICH WE
HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TRYING TO
SUPPORT THE PUBLIC ACCESS
THROUGH. BUT THESE ATTORNEYS TO
ALSO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. WITH THAT
I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN STONE. LET'S
TURN TO SUPPORT SUPPORT. I
BELIEVE GINA AMATO IS ON THE
PHONE. GINA MOTTO, ARE YOU ARE
YOU, UM ON THE PHONE? IF SO
CLEAR. ALRIGHTY. THE FLOOR IS
YOURS. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME
IS GINA AMATO AND I'M A
SUPERVISING ATTORNEY AND THE
IMMIGRANTS RIGHTS PROJECT THAT
PUBLIC COUNCIL, THE LARGEST PRO
BONO LAW FIRM IN THE NATION.
I'VE WORKED IN LEGAL SERVICES
FOR OVER 20 YEARS IN THE FIELDS
OF IMMIGRATION AND HOUSING. WE
HAVE PUBLIC COUNCIL SUPPORT A B
29 58, WITH THE AMENDMENTS
PROTECTING CONSUMERS FROM NON
ATTORNEYS ENGAGED IN THE
PRACTICE OF LAW. ARMING
CONCERNED WITH A PAIR OF
PROFESSIONAL PROGRAM IS
INCREASED RISK OF CONSUMER
FRAUD. THE PROGRAM WILL
EXACERBATE THE JUSTICE STAFF. IT
AIMS TO CLOSE AND HARM THE VERY
COMMUNITIES THAT WANTS TO
PROTECT LEGAL SERVICES ATTORNEYS
WHO HAVE EVERYDAY EXPERIENCE
WORKING WITH UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES REGULARLY COME INTO
CONTACT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS
HAVE SUFFERED IRREPARABLE HARM
IN THE HANDS OF ITS NON
ATTORNEYS PRACTICING LAW.
THERE'S ALREADY RAMPANT FRAUD
AND IMMIGRATION, HOUSING AND
OTHER CRITICAL AREAS AND DESPITE
THE EFFORTS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT,
WE LACK THE RESOURCES TO DEAL
WITH THE CURRENT PROBLEM. IF WE
ADD A NEW CLASS OF LICENSES,
CONSUMER FRIED WILL ONLY
INCREASE AND BAD ACTORS WILL GO
AND PUNISH. PLACING CONSUMERS AT
INCREASED RISK OF LOSING THEIR
MONEY, HOMES AND CUSTODY OF
THEIR CHILDREN. CALIFORNIA HAS
ALREADY EXPENDED EXPERIMENTED
WITH LICENSING NON ATTORNEYS,
AND IT HAS HAD A DEVASTATING
IMPACT ON UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY.
FOR EXAMPLE, VERONICA MARCIA'S
AND HER HUSBAND CLIENTS. WE ARE
CURRENTLY ASSISTING THE SERVICES
OF A MAN WHO IS LICENSED CENTER,
THE CALIFORNIA IMMIGRATION
CONSULTANT ACT. THE CONSULTANT,
REPRESENTED HIMSELF AS A
LICENSED ATTORNEY AND DEFRAUDED
VERONICA AND HER HUSBAND OUT OF
MORE THAN $100,000 OVER A 20
YEAR PERIOD. EVEN WORSE, THEY
HAVE NO RESOLUTION TO THE
IMMIGRATION CASE, PLACING
VERONICA'S HUSBAND AT RISK OF
DEPORTATION. WHETHER IT'S
CONSULTANT IS KNOWN TO LOCAL
AUTHORITIES IS OPERATED IN OUR
COMMUNITIES FOR DECADES AND
CONTINUES TO PREY ON OUR MOST
VULNERABLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. BY
THE POWER OF PROFESSIONAL
PROGRAM WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED
IN THE FIELD OF IMMIGRATION.
INITIALLY IT IS IMMIGRANTS AND
OTHER UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES
THAT WILL SUFFER THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THIS PROGRAM. WE
THEREFORE SUPPORT A B 29 58,
PREVENTING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF
THE PROFESSIONAL PROGRAM AND
URGED HER I VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR MOTTO, MISS LEE
FARRON YOU AVAILABLE, MISS
FARREN? I AM GOOD AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. YES THIS IS
LEE SHARE IN PUBLIC LAW CENTER
IN ORANGE COUNTY AND SPEAKING
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE
AMENDMENTS TO A B 29 58 STATE
BAR, DUDE SELF OVER THE LAST TWO
YEARS PUBLIC LAWCENTER, ALONG
WITH MANY OTHER LEGAL SERVICES
ORGANIZATIONS PARTICIPATED IN
THE STATE BARS PARAPROFESSIONALS
COMMITTEE. MEETINGS PROVIDING
PUBLIC COMMENTS, MEETING WITH
STATE BAR STAFF AND CONDUCTING
RESEARCH ALL IN AN EFFORT. TO
PROVIDE VALUABLE INPUT AND
FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH THE
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES IN
CALIFORNIA. WHEN THE STATES
HOWEVER, RATHER THAN
COLLABORATING WITH US, WE'VE
BEEN LARGELY DISREGARDED WHEN
THE STATE BAR WAS VOTING. PUBLIC
COMMENTS ARE COMMENTS WERE NOT
EVEN CONSIDERED TO BE CONSUMER
ADVOCACY COMMENT. WHEN WE SPEAK
PUBLICLY, WE SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
OUR CLIENTS. THE GOAL IS ALWAYS
TO FIND WAYS TO PROVIDE THE BEST
POSSIBLE SERVICES AND TO
MAXIMIZE THE SERVICES AVAILABLE
FOR LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA. WE WOULD
NEVER CLAIM THERE IS NO JUSTICE
GAP. WE LIVE IN THIS WORLD
EVERYDAY, FINDING WAYS TO MAKE
EVERY DOLLAR STRETCH TO PROVIDE
MORE SERVICES TO MORE PEOPLE. WE
WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE
PERSPECTIVE. UNDERSTAND OUR
SUGGESTIONS AND OFFER TO ENGAGE
IN CONVERSATIONS. WE BELIEVE THE
AMENDMENTS ARE NECESSARY TO
ENSURE THAT FURTHER EFFORTS TO
ADDRESS THE JUSTICE GAP ARE
THOUGHTFUL, ENGAGED, TAKE
HOLDERS WITH A VARIETY OF
PERSPECTIVE. AND DO NOT HAVE A
TUNNEL FOCUS WITH THE PROPOSAL
LIKE THE PARAPROFESSIONALS,
ULTIMATELY CREATING A SECOND
TIER OF JUSTICE FOR LOW INCOME
INDIVIDUALS. HE URGED THE
COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT THESE
AMENDMENTS. TO ENCOURAGE THE
STATE BAR TO CONTINUE TO WORK
COLLABORATIVELY WITH VARIOUS
STAKEHOLDERS TO DEVELOP WELL
THOUGHT OUT. SOLUTION TO ADDRESS
THE JUSTICE GAP. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU, MR FARRON.
ALRIGHT OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF A B
29 58 THAT ARE IN THE COMMITTEE
HEARING ROOM. PLEASE APPROACH
THE MICROPHONE. GIVE US YOUR
NAME, YOUR AFFILIATION AND YOUR
POSITION. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
MEMBERS, MARIKO YOSHIHARA ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
EMPLOYMENT LAWYERS ASSOCIATION,
FOR ALL THE REASONS STATED BY
THE WITNESSES AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR
CHAIRMAN, NANCY TRAVEL WITH
CONSUMER ATTORNEYS OF CALIFORNIA
. WE ARE IN SUCH STRONG SUPPORT
OF THE AMENDMENTS IN SECTION
THREE, WHICH PUT APPROPRIATE
RESTRICTIONS ON THE STATE BOARD.
THANK YOU, MR THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT. OTHERS IN ROOM 2100
SEEING NO ONE APPROACHED THE
MICROPHONE. LET'S TURN TO THE
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QUEUE UP THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A B
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PRESS ONE, THEN 01, THEN ZERO
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HAD A FIRST PERSON AS LINE 205,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS. IT'S MIKE
BELOW. SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DEFENSE COUNSEL IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL AS AMENDED,
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND
OUTLINE 1 24, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MICAH
STARVE LIBERTY. I AM A VOTING
MEMBER OF THE CLOSING THE
JUSTICE GAP SANDBOX COMMITTEE
AND I AM IN STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO
ONE ELSE IN QUÊ. ALL IGHT,
LET'S TURN TO THE OPPOSITION. WE
HAVE TWO WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION DAVID DOODLE AND MR
RUBEN DURAN. MR DURAN. THANK YOU
AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN,
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. WITH
ALL DUE RESPECT, SENATOR EXCUSE
ME ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S STONE. I
HAVE ONE CORRECTION. TO WHAT?
YOUR INTRODUCTION WASN'T THAT IS
WE WILL BE VERY SORRY TO SEE YOU
GO. AND THAT THIS IS YOUR LAST
FEES, BILL, SO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR COLLABORATION IN YOUR WORK
OVER THE YEARS, I'VE ENJOYED
WORKING WITH YOU AND GETTING TO
KNOW YOU. MY NAME IS RUBEN DURAN
AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE STATE
BAR BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND WOULD
LIKE TO THANK THIS COMMITTEE AND
YOUR STAFF FOR ITS WORK OVER THE
YEARS TO IMPROVE THE STATE BAR.
HI ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE BOARD.
WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT WE ARE
ALL UNWAVERING IN OUR COMMITMENT
TO PUBLIC PROTECTION AS OUR
PARAMOUNT PRIORITY. TO THAT END
AFTER SEVERAL YEARS WITHOUT A
PERMANENT CHIEF TRIAL COUNSEL.
I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT. JUST
LAST WEEK, CHIEF TRIAL COUNSEL
JORGE CARDONA WAS APPROVED IN
SENATE RULES AND HIS
CONFIRMATION WILL BE TAKING UP
TAKING UP IN THE FUNNY AND THE
COMING WEEKS ON THE SENATE
FLOOR. THE BAR IS CREATING A NEW
CASE PROCESSING STANDARDS SO
THAT THE BOARD AND THE
LEGISLATURE CAN MORE ACCURATELY
ASSESS THE DISCIPLINE SYSTEMS
EFFECTIVENESS AND WE ARE
PURSUING NUMEROUS EFFORTS TO
ADDRESS RACIAL AND OTHER
DISPARITIES IN THE DISCIPLINE
SYSTEM. IN RESPONSE TO THE
GIRARDI, MATTER OF THE BOARD
ORDERED AN INDEPENDENT
INVESTIGATION TO IDENTIFY
ACTIONS BY ANYONE WITH TIES TO
THE STATE BAR THAT MAY HAVE
INAPPROPRIATELY IMPACTED THE
HANDLING. OF COMPLAINTS AGAINST
MR GIRARDI. THE BAR HAS ALSO
DEVELOPED THAT CLIENTS TRUST
ACCOUNT PROTECTION PROGRAM TO
IDENTIFY PROBLEMS EARLY AND
PREVENT PROBLEMS FROM RECURRING
THROUGH RANDOMIZED AUDITS
MANDATORY AND TARGETED EDUCATION
AS WELL AS OTHER TOOLS. WHILE WE
HAVE DONE MUCH, LET ME BE CLEAR.
WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO. THE
RECENT STATE AUDIT REVEALED
SERIOUS ISSUES WITH THE
DISCIPLINE SYSTEM WITH WHICH WE
LARGELY AGREE WITH THE SENATORS
. EXCUSE ME THE AUDITOR'S
RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE ARE
ALREADY IMPLEMENTING SOME OF
THEM, INCLUDING MEASURES TO
ENSURE THAT DISCIPLINE IS FREE
FROM CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. I
WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT
NOTE THAT WHILE OUR MAIN FOCUS
IS DISCIPLINE ARE STATUTORY
MISSION ALSO INCLUDES INCREASING
ACCESS TO JUSTICE AND DIVERSITY
AND INCLUSION IN THE LEGAL
PROFESSION. AS A BOARD. WE
BELIEVE THAT WE CANNOT EXPECT TO
GET DIFFERENT RESULTS FROM THE
SAME EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN
TRIED FOR DECADES NOW. THE
BOARD'S CURRENT EFFORTS TO CLOSE
THE JUSTICE GAP, INCLUDING
EXPLORING WHETHER
PARAPROFESSIONALS OR REGULATORY
SANDBOX CAN ASSIST IN MAKING
LEGAL SERVICES MORE ACCESSIBLE
AND AFFORDABLE WHILE ENSURING
THE PUBLIC IS PROTECTED. THESE
EFFORTS ARE NOT ONLY FOCUSED ON
LOW INCOME POPULATIONS IN OUR
STATE, BUT THE MILLIONS OF
CALIFORNIANS WHO MAKE TOO MUCH
MONEY TO QUALIFY FOR LEGAL AID,
BUT NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TO PAY THE
HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS THAT MANY
ATTORNEYS CHARGE FOR LEGAL
SERVICES. WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S
TIME FOR CALIFORNIA TO JOIN THE
OTHER 14 STATES WHO ARE
EXPLORING THESE TYPES OF
REGULATORY REFORMS, NOT BECAUSE
WE WANT TO DIMINISH THE
PROFESSION OR BECAUSE WE ARE NOT
PAYING ATTENTION TO THE
DISCIPLINE SYSTEM. BUT BECAUSE
WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT
MEANINGFUL ACCESS WE ARE
CONCERNED THAT THE RECENT
AMENDMENTS PREMATURELY
FORECLOSED OUR ABILITY TO TRULY
EXPLORE THESE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS
, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT
ANY SUCH PROPOSALS WILL BE
SUBMITTED TO THIS BODY FOR
REVIEW. WHILE THEY SAY THAT THEY
DO NOT INTEND TO LIMIT THE
EXAMINATION EXAMINATION OF THE
USE OF TECHNOLOGY TO INCREASE
ACCESS TO JUSTICE FOR LOWER
INCOME AND INDIGENT PERSONS.
THEY WOULD PRECLUDE WE BELIEVE
THE INVESTMENT THAT IS NECESSARY
TO DEVELOP THAT TECHNOLOGY. AND
AS TO THE PARAPROFESSIONALS, IT
WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE BAR
TO ESTABLISH A NEW CLASS OF
LICENSE SEE WITHOUT ADDRESSING
EXISTING RESTRICTIONS IN THE
HONOR AUTHORIZED PRACTICE OF
LAW. WE LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER
DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENTS
WITH THE AUTHOR OF THE COMMITTEE
AND STAKEHOLDERS TO CLARIFY THIS
LANGUAGE AS WE STRIVE TO AN
ENHANCED ACCESS FOR ALL THANK
YOU. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. YOU MAY HAVE. THANK
YOU. CHAIR DURANT. WE ALSO HAVE
DAVID UDELL ON THE PHONE. I
BELIEVE, MR UDELL, YOU HAVE, UM
90 SECONDS. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU
. DAVID UDELL, EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL CENTER
FOR ACCESS TO JUSTICE AT FORDHAM
LAW. WE OPPOSED THE BILL AT
SECTION THREE. MILLIONS OF
CALIFORNIANS LACK ACCESS TO
JUSTICE. IN OUR REPORT WORKING
WITH YOUR HANDS TIED BEHIND YOUR
BACK. WE INTERVIEWED SOCIAL
WORKERS, LIBRARIANS AND SOCIAL
SERVICES PROVIDERS ABOUT THEIR
EXPERIENCE WITH THE UPL ROLES
AND IN A SEPARATE REPORT, UPL
ENFORCEMENT IN CALIFORNIA.
PROTECTION OF PROTECTIONISM. WE
INTERVIEWED DOCUMENT ASSISTANCE
AND PARALEGALS IN CALIFORNIA FOR
THEIR VIEWS ON THE UPL
ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. WE LEARNED
FROM THESE INTERVIEWS HOW THE
BROAD SWEEP OF THE UPL RULES
INTERFERES WITH PEOPLE GETTING
THE ESSENTIAL LEGAL HELP THEY
NEED. MANY SEEK THE MOST BASIC
LEGAL ADVICE, LEGAL DOCUMENT
ASSISTANT IN CALIFORNIA,
EXPLAINED RHETORICALLY. HOW IS
SOCIETY BENEFITTED BY TENANTS?
NOT KNOWING THAT THEIR LANDLORD
CAN'T JUST CHANGE THE LAW? ELITE
LIBRARY IN NEW YORK, EXPLAINED
THAT A COMMON QUESTION IS WHAT
IS GOOD ADVICE FOR TRYING TO GET
YOUR COURT DATE MOVED. WHICH
SHOULD YOU TALK TO? WHAT SHOULD
YOU SAY? HE EXPLAINED THAT
BECAUSE THE LAW IS UNCLEAR AND
DEFINING LEGAL ADVICE, MANY
LIBRARIANS JUST WON'T HELP AT
ALL. THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE
HELPING. PERIOD. BUY AN RV.
JAMES, THE REVEREND IN NEW YORK,
SOUTH BRONX, SUED NEW YORK STATE
OVERTURN THE UPL LAW THAT MAKES
IT A CRIME FOR A NON LAWYER TO
GET LEGAL ADVICE. ADVICE THE
COURT WILL AGAINST THE STATE.
DECLARING THE LAW
UNCONSTITUTIONAL BECAUSE IT
PREVENTS THE REVEREND FROM
GIVING HIS PARISHIONERS BASIC
LEGAL ADVICE ON COMPLETING DEBT.
DEFENSE COURT ANSWER FOR HIM OUR
FINDINGS, THE EPISODE DECISION
MADE CLEAR THE NEED TO
RECONSIDER THE SCOPE OF
CALIFORNIA'S UPS. ALLAH WE'RE
NOT AGAINST ALL UPL LAWS. RATHER
WE SEE THE SLEEP TOO BROADLY.
OFTEN WE BELIEVE THE REGULATORY
SANDBOX WOULD ALLOW A PRACTICAL
EMPIRICAL EVALUATION OF
ACTIVITIES. BY NON LAWYERS THAT
CAN INCREASE ACCESS TO JUSTICE.
WE APPROACHED SECTION THREE. THE
BILL CALLS FOR ACCESS TO JUSTICE
FOR CALIFORNIANS, BUT IN
ACTUALITY, IT WOULD SHUT DOWN
THIS ESSENTIAL OPPORTUNITY. FOR
INCREASING ACCESS TO JUSTICE. IN
THIS RESPECT, THE BILL APPEARS
DECEPTIVE. PLUS THERE'S NO
AFFIRMATIVE REASON APPARENT FOR
THE SHUTDOWN OF AN EXPLORATORY
SANDBOX THAT WOULD TEST IDEAS
AND MDELS FOR THESE IN THE
ADDITIONAL REASONS IN OUR
TESTIMONY, THE BILL SHOULD NOT
BECOME LAW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. ALRIGHT OTHERS
OPPOSED HERE IN ROOM 2100,
PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE,
SAYING NO. ONE APPROACHING THE
MICROPHONE. LET'S TURN TO THE
PHONE LINE MODERATOR IF YOU
WOULD QUEUE UP THOSE WHO ARE
OPPOSED TO A B 29 58 WE'D BE
GRATEFUL. THANK YOU. IF YOU ARE
OPPOSED TO A B 29 58, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. AND OUR FIRST PERSON IS ON
LINE. 1 69, PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE
MOMENT. THEY TOOK THEMSELVES OUT
OF QUÊ. HERE WE GO. 1 69, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. OKAY HELLO. MY NAME IS
ANGELA GRIJALVA, AND I'M, A
LEGAL DOCUMENT ASSISTANT HERE IN
SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA. I'M ALSO
A MINORITY BUSINESS OWNER
LOOKING TO BECOME A PAIR OF
PROFESSIONALS IF AND WHEN THIS
PASSIVE I WORKED WITH THOSE HARD
HIT BY THE ATTORNEY MONOPOLY AND
THE JUSTICE GAP STRONGLY OPPOSED
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. AND NOW TO
LINE 1 82, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES.
MY NAME IS ERIC HELLAND. AND I'M
VOTING MEMBER OF THE CLOSING THE
JUSTICE WORKING GROUP EXAMINING
THE REGULATORY SANDBOX AND
PROFESSOR OF ECONOMICS AT
CLAREMONT MCKENNA COLLEGE, AND I
OPPOSE SECTION THREE OF THE
BILL. THANK YOU AND NOW TO LINE
1 92, PLEASE GO AHEAD. JASON
SOLOMON STANDS FOR CENTER ON THE
LEGAL PROFESSION STRONGLY
OPPOSED SECTION THREE. THANK
YOU. AND NOW UNTIL I'M 1 41,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. TOM BORDEN
RESPONSIBLE CONSUMERS VERY
RESPONSIBLE LEGAL SYSTEM
STRONGLY OPPOSED SECTION THREE.
THANK YOU. AND HOW IT'S LINE
200. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
TRACEY LAKE AND I'M WITH LAW
WORK. W W RK IN VICTORVILLE,
CALIFORNIA WE HELP THE GENERAL
PUBLIC THAT CANNOT AFFORD AN
ATTORNEY. ALTERNATE NON LAWYERS
SUPPORT. AS A MEMBER OF A
GREATLY UNDERSERVED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLEASE
GIVE US YOUR NAME YOUR
AFFILIATION IN YOUR POSITION ON
THE BILL. I ASSUME YOU'RE
OPPOSED NEXT, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
THAT'S LINE. 1 46, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. AFTERNOON ALL NOT ONLY
MILTON ON BEHALF OF THE
INSTITUTE FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF
THE AMERICAN LEGAL SYSTEM,
HOPEFULLY IN OPPOSITION TO
PROPOSED SECTION THREE OF 80 TO
95 8. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LINE
TWO. OH, SEVEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
FIND TWO. OH, SEVEN. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN AS YOUR PHONE ON MUTE.
WITH NO RESPONSE WILL MOVE ON TO
LINE TWO. OH, EIGHT. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. TRAINING IS CAMILLE LOPEZ
. AND I AM THIS NEO AND SO
FOUNDER OF PEOPLE, CLERKS AND
JUSTICE TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION
BOARD MEMBER I APOLOGIZE. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO ONE
ELSE IN. Q ALL RIGHT BACK HERE
TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS SEEING NONE.
OH YES, SENATOR LAIRD A QUESTION
AND THAT. YOU TOOK AMENDMENTS ON
SECTION THREE AND THEN PEOPLE
OPPOSED IT. BASED ON SECTION
THREE, IS IT THAT? AMENDMENTS
ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND THEY
DON'T KNOW OR THEY HAVE
ADDITIONAL CONCERNS BEYOND WHAT
YOU TOOK THE AMENDMENTS ON HOW
WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THAT?
WELL, AND THESE ARE THESE ARE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. WHAT I
WOULD CHARACTERIZE IS THAT
THERE'S PUSH BACK TO OUR
CONCERNS THAT I THINK LEGITIMATE
CONCERNS ABOUT THE REGULATORY
SANDBOX AND THE PARAPROFESSIONAL
WORK. BY DEFINITION. THOSE
INVESTIGATIONS ARE TRYING TO
EXPAND THE PRACTICE OF LAW INTO
AREAS WHERE, FROM MY STANDPOINT
, THERE'S VERY LITTLE POTENTIAL
ACCOUNTABILITY. AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT THE BAR DOES AS THEY
ARE ADDRESSING THEIR DISCIPLINE
SYSTEM IS HOLD ATTORNEYS
ACCOUNTABLE ATTORNEYS AND PEOPLE
GIVING LEGAL ADVICE CAN AIR. CAN
BE IRRESPONSIBLE IN SOME VERY
COMPLEX AREAS AND MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC GETS SIGNIFICANTLY BY
THAT, AND IF THERE IS NO
ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THERE'S NO
WAY TO REDRESS A GRIEVANCE BY
ACTUALLY HOLDING THAT INDIVIDUAL
WHO IS NOT EITHER INTENTIONALLY
OR UNINTENTIONALLY. NOT
UPHOLDING THE HIGHEST STANDARDS.
THAT'S A BIT OF A PROBLEM, AND
THE SECTION THREE DOES NOT
PRECLUDE, BUT IT SENDS A PRETTY
STRONG MESSAGE THAT ANY EFFORTS
BEING DONE THERE. IS THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
LEGISLATURE. SO YES, THEY HAVE
TO BRING PROPOSALS HERE AND THIS
IS SOMETHING WE'VE GONE BACK AND
FORTH WITH THE BAR ABOUT IS
WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN JUST
ENACT THINGS AND SET STANDARDS
AND HAVE SOME OTHER ARBITER
DECIDE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT
DOESN'T WORK OR COME BACK TO THE
LEGISLATURE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO
MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF THOSE
PROPOSALS DO COME BACK TO THE
LEGISLATURE. IF WE'RE GOING TO
ADDRESS THE UNAUTHORIZED
PRACTICE OF LAW, WE CAN DO THAT
, AND I'D BE INTERESTED IN
SEEING SOME PROPOSALS, BUT JUST
FLOATING OUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO
EXPAND. THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO
PROVIDE LEGAL ADVICE WITHOUT
THAT ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE TO ME
IS PROBLEMATIC. AND THAT'S WE'RE
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF
THESE CHANGES THAT IT'S VERY
CLEAR COME THROUGH OUR TWO
COMMITTEES COME TO LEGISLATURE
BECAUSE WRITING LAWS AMENDING
LAWS SETTING THOSE STANDARDS IS
ARE RESPONSIBLE. I VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT AND
THINK IT'S RESPONSIVE TO THE
QUESTION AND FOR MY COLLEAGUES,
ONE OF THE WITNESSES REFERENCED. THE FACT THAT THE NEW CHIEF
TRIAL COUNSEL DEALING WITH THEM
. ATTORNEY MISCONDUCT CAME IN
FRONT OF THE RULES COMMITTEE AND
IT'S THE ONE RULES COMMITTEE
MEMBER HERE. I WOULD JUST LET
EVERYBODY KNOW WE HAD A VERY
LENGTHY CONVERSATION IN THE
RULES COMMITTEE ABOUT THE
PROCESSES AND ABOUT WHAT HE
THOUGHT HIS DUTIES WERE AND HOW
HE WAS GOING TO PURSUE THEM, AND
I THINK WE FELT LOVE LOVE
COMFORT. THAT HE WAS SKILLED
QUALIFIED. HAD THE RESOURCES
WOULD ASK FOR THE RESOURCES IF
HE DIDN'T HAVE THEM AND REALLY
WANTED TO TAKE THAT MISSION VERY
SERIOUSLY. THAT IS SOMETHING WE
SORT OF WANTED TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF IN THE RULES COMMITTEE
AND I FEEL LIKE WE DID, AND IT'S
AT THAT POINT IN THE PROCESS
WHERE CAME OUT OF THE RULES
COMMITTEE AND IT WILL BE ON THE
FLOOR SOMETIME, PROBABLY IN THE
NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. INTO
UNDERSCORE THAT SENATOR PREVIOUS
BAR TRUSTEES DID NOT FAIRLY SEE
IT AS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. TO
OVERSEE OR SORT OF DRIVE THE
WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE
DISCIPLINE SYSTEM ALLOWS THE TWO
TRIAL COUNSEL, BUT YOU HEARD
FROM THE CURRENT CHAIR OF THE
BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAVE HAD A
NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS. I'M
SURE YOUR CHAIR HAS AND I HAVE
EVERY CONFIDENCE THAT THIS BOARD
OF TRUSTEES IS VERY SERIOUS
ABOUT IT. BUT THEY HAVE WORK TO
DO TO BUILD BACK PUBLIC
CONFIDENCE TO BUILD BACK THAT
THAT STRENGTH AND AS I'VE TOLD
SOME OF THE YOUNG PROSECUTORS
WHO HAVE GONE INTO THAT OFFICE,
WHO ARE SORT OF FRUSTRATED WITH
SOME OF THE CHANGES I WANT
ATTORNEYS TO BE AFRAID OF. I
WANT TO TURN THIS TO NOT ROLL
THEIR EYES. WHEN CHIEF TRIAL
COUNSEL CALLS AND SAY I HAVE
QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW YOU HANDLE
THIS TRUST. I HAVE QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE ADVICE THAT YOU GAVE
OR HOW YOU'RE HANDLING. THIS
CASE BECAUSE ATTORNEYS NEED TO
BE VERY CONCERNED. WE GET VERY
FULL OF OURSELVES SOMETIMES
WITHOUT THAT HIGHER POWER THAT
HIGHER AUTHORITY. A LOT OF BAD
THINGS CAN HAPPEN. THE STRONGER
CHIEF TRIAL COUNSEL IS THE
STRONGER THAT OFFICES AND THE
BOARD OF TRUSTEES FACILITATING
THAT. NOW WE GET TO A MUCH
STRONGER BAR AND MUCH GREATER
PUBLIC CONFIDENCE. IN THAT
MECHANISM. THANK YOU. I LOOK
FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THE BILL
WHEN WE GET THANK YOU, SENATOR
STERN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND
I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR SOME
MEMBER FOR YEARS OF PRUDENT
STEWARDSHIP OF THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE AND HAVE OUR
ENGAGEMENT WITH THE LEGAL
PROFESSION HERE IN GENERAL, UM
THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE DOES
DOES NOT GET BUILT OVERNIGHT.
SO, UM THAT SOMEBODY IS STILL
RELATIVELY NEW TO ALL OF THIS.
MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE. THE
PROPOSAL THAT'S CURRENTLY
PENDING BEFORE THE BAR. UM HA. I
WANT TO GET A LITTLE MORE SENSE.
I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS
REGULATORY SANDBOX PROPOSAL WHAT
IT LOOKS LIKE, OR THE
PROFESSIONALS PROPOSAL AND YOU
WOULD YOU HAD MENTIONED REALLY
IMPORTANT CONCERNS ABOUT
ACCOUNTABILITY OR, UM, THE
SUSCEPTIBILITY OF THAT, I GUESS
TO ABUSE CAN WE GET A LITTLE
MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, OR
EVEN HEAR FROM THE CHAIR OF THE
BAR, POTENTIALLY JUST BRIEFLY ON
WHAT THAT TWO VERY DIFFERENT
FUNCTIONS AND ONE IS LOOKING AT
PARA PROFESSIONAL. AND THEIR
ABILITY TO IN A LOT OF WAYS, DO
WHAT THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO AND
LIKE WE SEE WITH SCOPE OF
PRACTICE SITES IN THE MEDICAL
COMMUNITY AND ALL THAT, AND I'M
NOT GOING TO PRESUPPOSE WHERE
EVERYBODY IS. BUT FROM MY
STANDPOINT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT
PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED. TO
PERFORM THE PROFESSIONAL WORK
THAT THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO. AND
I THINK THERE'S A BIT OF AN
OPENNESS TO THIS. BUT WHAT'S
KEY? THE UNDERPINNINGS OF THIS
OR THE UNDER THE LAWS AROUND THE
UNAUTHORIZED PRACTICE OF LAW AND
HOW WE HOLD THOSE INDIVIDUALS
ACCOUNTABLE FOR MISTAKES,
MALFEASANCE. OTHER THINGS THAT
THEY DO. I THINK THERE'S
SOMETHING TO EXPLORE THERE,
WHICH IS WHY THE LANGUAGE IS NOT
PROHIBITING THINGS, BUT REALLY
UNDERSCORING THAT ANYTHING THAT
THEY'RE DOING WITH PREPARED
PROFESSIONALS NEEDS TO, OF
COURSE, COME THROUGH THE
LEGISLATURE. WE WANT TO BE
INVOLVED WITH IT BECAUSE WE'RE
THE ONES HELD ACCOUNTABLE
DECIDING A LOT OF THESE
STANDARDS. THE REGULATORY
SANDBOXES SOMETHING THAT'S
HAPPENING. IN A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT STATES AND THEIR
INNOVATIVE, SOMETIMES
INTERESTING IDEAS. BUT WITHOUT A
LOT OF ACCOUNTABILITY BEHIND
THEM. AND ALLOWING APPLICATIONS
, FOR EXAMPLE, SO THE TECH
INDUSTRIES ARE INTERESTED IN
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO WRITE
APPS THAT GIVE PEOPLE LEGAL
ADVICE. OKAY THAT SOUNDS
BENEFICIAL. IT SOUNDS USEFUL
UNTIL SOMETHING GOES WRONG.
WHO'S ACCOUNTABLE? ISSUE ABOUT
ALLOWING NON ATTORNEYS TO BE
MAKING DECISIONS WITH WITH
CORPORATIONS WERE HAVE CONTROL
OVER LAW PRACTICES. WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG? WHO
IS ACCOUNTABLE? A LOT OF THOSE
QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED,
AND SOME OF THE INITIAL RHETORIC
AROUND THE SANDBOX WAS SO WE
WILL SET THIS UP. THEY WANTED
AUTHORITY THAT THE LEGISLATURE
WOULD GIVE THEM TO MAKE CHANGES
AND GO OFF AND DO WHAT THEY
WANTED TO DO. WELL, BUT WHO GETS
HURT IN THE MEANTIME? WE NEED TO
MAINTAIN AN UNDERSTANDING AND
CONTROL OVER THESE CLEAR POLICY
CHANGES AND HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT
UNAUTHORIZED PRACTICE OF ALL
LOOKS LIKE. AS YOU HEARD SOME OF
THE WITNESSES. THERE HAVE BEEN
SOME DEVASTATING IMPACT ON FOLKS
WHO HAVE COME ACROSS THE
NOTORIOUS AND OTHERS WHO HAVE
GIVEN VERY BAD ADVICE AROUND
IMMIGRATION. SURE, WHO SUFFERS
NO. BUT MY CONCERN, THOUGH, IS
THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO
KNOW WHAT THOSE IDEAS ARE UNDER
THE SECTION THREE C. THEY CAN'T
EVEN EXPLORE. THE FULL
REGULATORY SANDBOX AND THEN COME
BACK TO US, AND WE'LL SAY THAT'S
NOT GOOD OR THERE'S NO
ACCOUNTABILITY THERE. WHATEVER
IT MAY BE. WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING
TO ALLOW THAT. THAT
INVESTIGATION OR THE PROPOSAL
PROCESS FOR US TO OCCUR TO LOOK
AT THE FULL PANOPLY OF OPTIONS.
LOOK AT THE WEBSITE AND SEE WHAT
SOME OF THE PROPOSALS WERE AND
GET A SENSE OF THIS WHAT WE'RE
REALLY TRYING TO DO AND BECAUSE
THERE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES AROUND
THE ATTORNEY DISCIPLINE SYSTEM.
THERE HAVE BEEN SERIOUS ISSUES
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR YEARS
AROUND THE EXPENDITURES OF THE
BAR AND WHAT THEY'RE INVESTING
IN OR NOT INVESTING IN, AND
THAT'S ONE OF THINGS WE PUT IN.
PRIOR WAS THAT THE FEES ARE
DEUCE WOULD REDUCE IF THEY SELL
THAT BIG BUILDING IN SAN
FRANCISCO, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE
DUES ARE TO SUPPORT THAT. HAVE
BEEN ENOUGH QUESTIONS AROUND
THIS THAT WHAT THAT SECTION IS
REALLY SAYING IS SLOW DOWN. YOU
NEED TO BE DOING THE THINGS
WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO, AND THEN
WE CAN CONSIDER SORT OF NEXT
STEPS. APPRECIATE THAT INTENT,
AND I AND I'M OKAY WITH THE IDEA
OF COMING BACK TO LEGISLATURE IN
A CERTAIN MORE CONTROL OVER THE
PROCESS, BUT I WANT ALL THE
IDEAS TO BE ON THE TABLE, AND IT
SEEMS LIKE THE WAY THIS IS
CONSTRUCTED. THEY'RE NOT EVEN
ALLOWED TO EXAMINE CERTAIN IDEAS
WERE QUESTIONING WHERE THEY'RE
SPENDING THEIR THE MONEY. THOSE
IDEAS ARE FLOATING AROUND. THOSE
IDEAS ARE OUT THERE. THERE ARE
OTHER MECHANISMS. THIS IS YEARS
OF FRUSTRATION IN THIS AREA AND
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BAR
IS FOCUSING. WHY WE DID THE
UNIFICATION A FEW YEARS AGO GET
THE PART OF FOCUS ON ITS TASKS
AT HAND AND WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE
DOING AND RIGHT NOW THE
DISCIPLINE SYSTEM. IS KEY, GREAT
, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S
THE OVERALL THRUST THE BILL AND
IN THE AMENDMENTS OR THE UPDATES
TO THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS. THE
ACCOUNTABILITY ALL OF THAT. I'M
SIMPLY MAKING THE POINT THAT
SECTION THREE C THREE C. WHICH
SAYS THAT THE SECTION DOES NOT
LIMIT THE EXAMINATION THE USE OF
TECHNOLOGY TO INCREASE ACCESS TO
JUSTICE FOR LOWER INCOME AND
INDIGENT PERSONS SO LONG S THE
PROPOSALS ADHERE TO AND DO NOT
PROPOSE ANY AGGREGATION ANY
AGGREGATION. THE RESTRICTIONS ON
THE UNAUTHORIZED PRACTICE OF LAW
IF THERE WERE SOME OBLIGATIONS
THAT WERE PROPOSED TO BE
AGGREGATED AND SAY, A MINOR WAY
UNDER THE REGULATORY SANDBOX
PROPOSAL, OR WHATEVER IS IN THIS
PAIR OF PROFESSIONALS, THESE
CONCEPTS OUT THERE THAT CAN'T
EVEN COME BACK TO THE
LEGISLATURE FOR OUR REVIEW AT
THIS POINT, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
EVEN BE IN THE REPORT, SO WHAT I
DON'T WANT TO DO IS SORT OF
PRESCRIBE THEIR PROCESS IN SUCH
A WAY THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING
TO GET THESE IDEAS ON THE TABLE,
AND JUST ONE OTHER POINT IS,
IT'S ONLY ABOUT ACCESS TO
JUSTICE FOR LOWER INCOME IN
INDIGENT PERSONS. AND IT HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH ACCESS TO
JUSTICE FOR PEOPLE OVER. ALL
RIGHT, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE
DEFINE LOWER INCOME OR INDIGENT,
BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT, UM ANY
OTHER INCOME THRESHOLD OR ANY
OTHER CLASSIFICATION OF PERSON
OTHER THAN SOMEONE WHO'S WHO'S
INDIGENT, AND WE'RE PUTTING
THEIR PROTECTION SEEMS TO ME
PRIORITIZING THEIR PROTECTION
ABOVE ALL ELSE. AND THEN PUTTING
ACCESS SECOND. AND SO I'M
WRESTLING WITH THAT I WANT TO I
WANT TO BE THERE. I JUST I DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HARM IS IN
LETTING THE BAR. FLESH OUT THIS
PROCESS. BRING IT BACK TO US.
WE'LL KICK THE TIRES, AND THEN
WE CAN MAKE SOME DECISIONS. SO
THAT'S THE OKAY. YES, AND THAT'S
THE PROBLEM IS THIS IS A BIT
CART BEFORE HORSE. IF THERE IS
AN ISSUE IN THE UNAUTHORIZED
PRACTICE LAW STATUTES, LET'S
TALK ABOUT THAT. LET'S NOT TALK
ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE
TECH INDUSTRY AND OTHERS WANT TO
DRIVE AND HAVE THAT THEN.
INCIDENTALLY UNINTENTIONALLY,
WHETHER THEY'RE MINOR MAJOR
CHANGES TO THE UNAUTHORIZED
PRACTICE OF LAW WITHOUT US
LOOKING INTENTIONALLY AT THE
UNAUTHORIZED PRACTICE LAW, THAT
WOULD BE THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT,
AND THEN THAT GIVES US A BETTER
CONTEXT. FOR LOOKING AT THE
REGULATORY SANDBOX BECAUSE WE
BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING ACROSS THE
BOARD AND OKAY, YOU YOU CAN
OBJECT TO THE EMPHASIS ON THE
LOW INCOME AND ACCESS TO JUSTICE
, NOT JUST THE MOST SIGNIFICANT
GROUP, OF COURSE, THAT THAT WE
DO IN FACT, NEED TO BE FOCUSING
ON. OF COURSE, IT JUST DOESN'T
ALLOW FOR ANY FOCUS ELSEWHERE.
WELL. BUT BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE
PRIMARY. SO IF WE IF WE START
WHERE WE SHOULD BE STARTING AND
LOOK AT ANOTHER'S PRACTICE A
LOT, OKAY. BUT THERE ARE OTHER
WAYS WE CAN INCREASE ACCESS TO
JUSTICE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE
PUSHED ON THE SUPREME COURT TO
REDUCE THE CUT SCORE. WE STILL
DON'T HAVE RECIPROCITY WITH
OTHER STATES. THERE ARE A NUMBER
OF ATTORNEYS WE WOULD BRING INTO
OUR COMMUNITIES. BY DOING THAT.
WE'VE LOOKED AT DIVERSITY AT THE
BENCH DIVERSITY AT THE BAR
DIVERSITY IN THE PIPELINE COMING
IN THROUGH LAW SCHOOLS. TO TRY
AND INCREASE THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A
LARGER POOL OF ATTORNEYS COMING
IN. RIGHT SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A
PLETHORA, LIMITED PLETHORA OF
$400 500 DOLLARS AN HOUR
ATTORNEYS WHAT WE NEED ARE LESS
EXPENSIVE ATTORNEYS IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES PERFORMING THOSE
SERVICES THERE. WE DO THAT BY
OPENING UP THE PRACTICE OF LAW.
THERE ARE ROLES FOR
PROFESSIONALS AND OTHERS IN
THERE, BUT WHY AREN'T WE HAVING
THE REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT
BRINGING MORE ATTORNEYS INTO THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA GETTING MORE
PEOPLE QUALIFIED TO BE ATTORNEYS
. THAT'S WHY THE DISCIPLINE
SYSTEM IS SO IMPORTANT, THIS
MYTHOLOGY THAT IF WE HAVE A HIGH
CUT SCORE AND A HIGH HURDLE FOR
ANYBODY TO JUMP OVER TO BECOME
ATTORNEYS. HAS LED US TO THIS
SITUATION IF WE LET MORE PEOPLE
IN TO BECOME REGULATED LEGAL
PROFESSIONALS AND HOLD THEM
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE MECHANISMS
THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. NOW WE'RE
STARTING TO MAKE A REAL DENT IN
ACCESS TO JUSTICE AND GETTING
ATTORNEYS. IN THE COMMUNITIES
THEY COME FROM GOING TO LAW
SCHOOLS, GETTING THEM THERE AND
BEING SUPERVISED AND BEING HELD
ACCOUNTABLE. THAT'S THAT WOULD
HAVE A BIG IMPACT AND WE STILL
HAVE THAT PUBLIC PROTECTION
OBLIGATION THAT YOU HEARD FROM
THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF
TRUSTEES. THAT OBLIGATION IS, IS
NOW INGRAINED IN THAT FORD PART
AND PARCEL TO THIS IF WE NOW
START TO MOVE SOME OF THIS OFF
OUT OF CONVENIENCE.█AY
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THINGS GO
WRONG? FAIR ENOUGH AND
APPRECIATE THE INDULGENCE HERE,
MR CHAIR. YOU MAKE VERY GOOD
POINTS AND USING TECHNOLOGY AS A
SHORTCUT AROUND THIS BROADER
STRUCTURAL REFORM YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT COME OUT OF TEXAS. I HAVE
NO PROBLEM WITH THIS. IT'S THE
ACCOUNTABLE RIGHT AND DON'T
IGNORE THE BROADER STRUCTURAL
ISSUES WITHIN THE PROFESSION AND
SORT OF SET THOSE ASIDE. SO FAIR
POINTS. YOU'VE CONVINCED ME FOR
THE PRESIDENT TO GET ON BOARD
WITH THE BILL TODAY. UM I GUESS
I WOULD JUST THE FLAG I WOULD
PUT OUT THERE IS IF THERE'S ANY
WAY T ENSURE THAT THIS THAT
THIS ACCESS TO JUSTICE? THE
SCOPE OF THE CLASS OF
INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING
AT. AFTER WITH THIS ACCESS TO
JUSTICE IS BROAD ENOUGH RIGHT TO
BE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING
ANYBODY WITH JUST LOWER INCOME
AND INDIGENT. LANGUAGE ISSUES.
RENTERS ISSUES THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS. SO AS YOU ALL MOVE
FORWARD, JUST LOOK AT THAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT
IN YOUR CLOTHES?
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S STONE ALRIGHT.
OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
ALRIGHT IS THERE A MOTION MOVED
THE BILL. ALL RIGHT, SENATOR
LADD MOVES THE BILL. FIRST OF
ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
TO THE BAR YOUR SERVICE TO THE
PROFESSION. YOUR SERVICE TO
LEGISLATURE. I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA
BE BEFORE US AGAIN, BUT JUST
YET. NO YOU'RE NOT DONE YET,
RIGHT? RIGHT. NOT EVEN HERE. ARE
YOU DONE YET? LET ME LET ME MAKE
A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AS A
FOLLOWING TO SENATOR STERN. YES
ACCESS TO JUSTICE IS AN
IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF WHAT WE
DO AND WHAT THE BAR DOES, AND
CERTAINLY THOSE WHO ARE
INDIGENT. ARE LACKING ACCESS TO
JUSTICE. THERE ARE OTHERS THAT
ALSO LACKED ACCESS TO JUSTICE IS
THOSE IN SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE,
FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE CAN DISCUSS
WHETHER WE EXPAND THAT. THAT
LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE OTHERS THAT
ARE LACKING ACCESS TO JUSTICE. A
COUPLE OF THINGS ONE. I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE CLEAR UP, UM
THE ISSUE CONCERNING TECHNOLOGY
AS IT RELATES TO THE SANDBOX AND
PARAPROFESSIONALS. UM I'M NOT
GOING TO SPEAK FOR YOU. CHAIR
STONE, BUT BUT I DON'T THINK WE
ARE AVERSE TO TECHNOLOGY AT ALL
. AND IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING THE
ISSUE OF PARAPROFESSIONALS, AYE.
ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH YOUR POINT
IS THAT WE GOT A FIRST LOOK AT
WHAT WE CAN DO TO EXPAND THE
PRACTICE AND PERHAPS OTHER
ACTIVITIES PERFORMED BY OTHERS.
BUT FIRST LOOK AT THAT AS TO HOW
WE PROVIDE ADEQUATE QUALITY.
ACCESS TO JUSTICE BEFORE WE MOVE
INTO ALLOWING THE, UM THE
STRUCTURE TO DICTATE HOW WE
ALLOW THOSE WHO ARE WITHOUT
ACCESS TO ACCESS JUSTICE. I IN
FACT AUTHORED THE ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE BILL AS IT RELATES
TO THE COURTS, UNFORTUNATELY,
WAS A VICTIM OF COVID. BUT WE
ARE NOT ANTITHETICAL TO
TECHNOLOGY IN TERMS OF REDUCING
THE COST. IN FACT, BOTH OF US
HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING
TO, UM CREATE WAYS TO REDUCE THE
COST OF LITIGATION. UH THE, UH,
LEGISLATURE I THINK HAS MADE
VERY CLEAR IN TERMS OF THE BAR
AS TO WHAT WE BELIEVE THE
PRIORITIES OF THE BAR SHOULD BE,
UM WE HAD SB 2 11, WHICH
REQUIRED OUT OF THE BAR AND THAT
ALL OF THE BAR REVEALED THAT
THAT THE BAR AS WAS TESTIFIED TO
BY CHAIRED OR IN THE BAR HAS NOT
MET THE EXPECTATION LEGISLATURE
OF THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF
PROTECTING THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
FROM ATTORNEYS WHO ARE IN SOME
WAYS TWICE VICTIMIZING
CALIFORNIANS. AND SO THAT NEEDS
TO BE THE EMPHASIS OF THE BAR. I
AM VERY PLEASED THAT LAST YEAR
OR SO, AND THAT MR CARDONA HAS
RECENTLY BEEN APPROVED BY RULES
COMMITTEE AND I FULLY EXPECT
THAT THEY WILL BE APPROVED
UNANIMOUSLY ON THE ON THE FLOOR
OF THE SENATE. I ACTUALLY WAS IN
THE U. S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR A
SHORT TIME WITH MR CARDONA BACK
IN THE DAY. AH! BUT THE AUDITOR
ALSO IN TERMS OF THE AUDIT,
DISAGREES WITH THE EXPENDITURE
OF FUNDS AND WHERE THOSE
RESOURCES SHOULD GO AND WHERE WE
PUT RESOURCES. REALLY, UM, WE
CAN SAY WHAT WE WILL, BUT WHERE
WE PUT RESOURCES REALLY REFLECTS
OUR VALUES, AND WE WANT THAT TO
REFLECT THE VALUES OF THOSE OF
US THAT COMMUNITY THAT WISHES TO
PROTECT THE GENERAL PUBLIC. I
HAVE EXPRESSED A NUMBER OF
OCCASIONS MY SYMPATHIES FOR
CHAIR DURAN. HE'S HAD A
CHALLENGING YEAR OF NOT OF HIS
DOING. BUT THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER
OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT HAVE UH
, COME TO LIFE HERE IN THE LAST
YEAR, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
LEADERSHIP IN TRYING TO RISE
ABOVE ALL THOSE ISSUES AND
BASICALLY ESTABLISHED THE BAR AS
A PREEMINENT THE PREEMINENT
ORGANIZATION FOCUSED ON ATTORNEY
COMPETENCE AND DISCIPLINE. SO
WITH THAT THERE'S BEEN A MOTION
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S STONE? THANK
YOU CHAIR AND I LOVE CLOSING.
VERY, VERY SIMPLY, BUT I JUST
WHAT? I'VE BEEN A SLAVE TO
TECHNOLOGY FOR 50 YEARS. SO
YEAH, I AM NO STRANGER
TECHNOLOGY. I'M A SUCKER FOR
ANYTHING WHERE THERE'S AN APP
FOR THAT. SO FINE BUT OUR
RESPONSIBILITY HERE IS REALLY
CLEAR. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING
TO MAKE. AND I THINK, MR CHAIR
YOU ARTICULATED THAT VERY WELL
AND SENATORS, TURN TO YOUR
SENSITIVITY THERE. YES. YOU ARE
NOT WRONG ACCESS TO JUSTICE GOES
ACROSS THE ECONOMIC SPECTRUM. WE
ARE INTENTIONALLY IS FOCUSING ON
CLASSES THAT HAVE. NO ACCESS TO
JUSTICE AND IN FACT HAVE BEEN
ABUSED TIME AND TIME AGAIN BY
UNAUTHORIZED PRACTICES OF LAW IN
VARIOUS THAT'S THAT'S THE
SENSITIVITY, BUT THAT'S A GOOD
POINT. WE WILL ABSOLUTELY LOOK
AT THAT. I WILL PROMISE YOU ARE
TWO COMMITTEES ARE WORKING VERY
CLOSELY ON THIS AND HAVE OVER
THE YEARS BEEN PRETTY MUCH IN IN
LOCKSTEP. SO ANY PARDEW'S BILL
IS WHETHER IT STARTS IN THE
ASSEMBLY SEARCH IN THE SENATE.
IS A COMBINED EFFORT. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR IDEA, AND I KNOW YOU'LL
MISS US TWO YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN
THE ASSEMBLY CHAIR OF JUDICIARY
IS CARRYING THE FEED, THOUGH.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, BUT
I DON'T THINK SO. LOBBY HIS
SENATOR WITH ALL THIS EXTRA TON.
DID GOING TO BE A MAJOR PAIN IN
THE NECK. SENATOR YES, SENATOR
LAYER LOOKS FORWARD TO THAT.
ALRIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY IF YOU
CALL THE ROLL THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS NUMBER GTA GORGEOUS,
GORGEOUS, I CAVALLERO RUSSELL
GONZALES. GONZALES. I HERTZBERG. JONES CLEARED. I'M ACQUIRE
STERN. STIR AND I WIENER. 7 TO
0. MEMBERS MISSING. ALRIGHT
WE'LL PUT THAT ON CALL. UM I SEE
THAT ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JOAN
SAWYER HAS BEEN HERE WAITING
VERY PATIENTLY. PILOT AND NUMBER
30 A B 25 95. BUT I COULD TELL
THAT YOU QUITE ENJOYED THE
CONVERSATION LASTED ALRIGHT, SO
ALRIGHT. THANK YOU LOVE TO
PRESENT A B 25 95 BILL THAT
WOULD ENSURE THAT CANNABIS IS
TREATED JUST AS ANY OTHER LEGAL
SUBSTANCE FOR THE PURPOSES OF
CHILD CUSTODY. INDEPENDENCY
COURTS. OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN
AWARE OF INCIDENTS WHERE
FAMILIES ARE BROUGHT INTO
DEPENDENCY COURTS FOR THE MERE
POSSESSION OF LEGAL CANNABIS
WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE OF CHILD
ABUSE OR NEGLECT. AS NOTED IN
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS, MERE
POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IS
INSUFFICIENT TO TAKE CUSTODY OF
A FAMILY OF A FAMILY UNDER CASE
LAW YET STILL, WE ARE AWARE OF
SITUATION WHERE FAMILIES ARE
DRAGGED INTO COURT. MERELY DO
THE POSSESSION OF LEGAL CANNABIS
TO BE CLEAR. THIS BILL DOES NOT
AND I REPEAT, DOES NOT MAKE ANY
CHANGES TO THE CHILD WELFARE
INVESTIGATION PROCESS OR ANY
PROCEEDINGS, DOES IT AMEND THE
PENAL CODE? THIS BILL ONLY
REQUIRED THE DEPARTMENT OF
SOCIAL SERVICES. THE DEPARTMENT
OVERSEES INVESTIGATIONS TO
ENSURE THAT ALL REGULATIONS AND
GUIDANCE GIVEN TO COUNTY TREATS
CANNABIS THE SAME AS ALCOHOL OR
LEGALLY PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS.
KOREAN FAMILIES IN THE COURT FOR
PROTESTING OF CANNABIS, NOT ONLY
A STRESSFUL EVENT THAT REQUIRES
TAKING TIME OFF OR JUGGLING
SCHEDULES, BUT CAN BE INCREDIBLY
DRAMATIC FOR CHILDREN. A B 25 95
WILL MAKE SURE THAT
INVESTIGATORS STILL HAVE THE
TOOLS TO DETERMINE NEGLECT OR
ABUSE, BUT DO NOT BURDENED
FAMILIES FOR THE LEGAL
POSSESSION OF CANNABIS WITH ME
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A B 25 9
95 VIA THE TELECONFERENCE LINE
IS THE BILL'S SPONSOR, BROOKE
HUGHLEY FROM THE LOS ANGELES
DEPENDENCY, LAWYERS. ALL RIGHT,
BROOKE HUGHLEY OR PURE
AVAILABLE. PLEASE ANNOUNCE
YOURSELF. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. I AM A SUPERVISING
ATTORNEY AT LOS ANGELES
DEPENDENCY LAWYERS. WE ARE THE
LARGEST FAMILY DEFENSE
ORGANIZATION OF OUR KIND OF THE
NATION, AND YOU REPRESENT AROUND
20,000 PARENTS IN THE CHILD
WELFARE SYSTEM ON ANY GIVEN DAY.
WERE CREATED SPONSOR A B 25 95,
WHICH REQUIRES THE DEPARTMENT OF
SOCIAL SERVICES UPDATE
INSTRUCTIONS FOR CHILD WELFARE
INVESTIGATIONS INVOLVING
CANNABIS USE. A MAJOR ISSUE
THAT'S FACING THE CHILD WELFARE
SYSTEM TODAY INVOLVES THE
DISPARATE TREATMENT OF THE
PARENTS. CANNABIS VERSUS THEIR
USE OF ALCOHOL OR LEGALLY
PRESCRIBED MEDICATION. AND IT'S
DISPARITY IS CLOSELY TIED TO
RACIAL AND SOCIOECONOMIC FIRE.
IN 2012. THE COURT OF APPEAL HAS
CONSISTENTLY HELD THAT
APPEARANCE. CANNABIS USE ALONE
IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR THE STATE
TO INTERFERE IN THE FAMILY.
DESPITE THIS, I'VE SEEN
THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES HAULED
THROUGH THE CHILD WELFARE SYSTEM
SOLELY BECAUSE THE PARENT USED
CANNABIS AT SOME POINT IN THE
VAST MAJORITY OF THESE CASES,
THE CHILD IS DOING WELL IN THE
HOME AND HAS NEVER BEEN ACCUSED
OR NEGLECTED. HOWEVER WHEN A
PARENT DISCLOSES PAST OR PRESENT
CANNABIS USE SOCIAL WORKERS IN
THE FIELD ARE SIMPLY PRESUMING
CHILD NEGLECT. EVEN WITHOUT ANY
ACCIDENT THAT UP, AND WHAT'S
WORSE, IS OFTEN USED AS A
PRETEXT TO DISRUPT AND SEPARATE.
THERE WAS A COLOR THE RESULT OF
THESE WORKERS DECISIONS. THE
CHILD SUFFERS THE CHILD WELFARE
AGENCY SUBJECTS THESE FAMILIES
TO COME. PHONE CALLS, DROP INS,
INTERROGATIONS AND ACCUSATIONS.
THE CURRENCY JOBS ARE PUT AT
RISK AT THE TIME WE HAVE TO
SPEND WITH THE SOCIAL WORKER'S
FAMILY FUNCTIONING IS DISRUPTED
, AND THE CHILDREN HAVE TO LIVE
IN FEAR OF BEING INVOLUNTARILY
SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILY.
MAYBE 25 95 WILL HELP TO ADDRESS
THIS ISSUE BY ENSURING THAT
THESE SOCIAL GROUPS ARE GIVEN
PROBLEMS, GUIDANCE. THAT WAY. A
PARENT WHO'S SAFELY USES
CANNABIS IS TREATED THE SAME AS
A PARENT WHO RESPONSIBLY HAS A
GLASS OF WINE OR WHO TAKES
LEGALLY PRESCRIBED, NOT
OCCASSION. PRETTIEST REASONS.
DEPENDENCY LAWYERS EXPRESSES ITS
SUPPORT FOR 18 25 95. THANK YOU.
CHAIR MEMBERS. THANK YOU, MISS
HUGHLEY. OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF A
B 25 95. IF YOU'RE HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM, PLEASE APPROACH
THE MICROPHONE. MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS, RAND MARTIN ON BEHALF
OF THE PARENT COMPANY AND
SUPPORT BUT ALSO HERE IS AS A
PERSONAL REQUESTS FOR SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL, WHO HAD A FAMILY
MEMBER WHO SUFFERED AT THE
ADVERSE ACTIONS BY THE
SACRAMENTO COUNTY BECAUSE SHE
ADMITTED THAT SHE SMOKED
CANNABIS FOR NO OTHER REASON
THAN THAT. WE THINK THIS IS A
VERY IMPORTANT BILL TO MAKE SURE
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. THANK
YOU, MR MARTIN. OTHERS HERE IN
ROOM 2100 SEEING NO. ONE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE
MODERATOR IF WE COULD TURN TO
THE PHONE FOR THOSE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 25 95, PLEASE CUE THEM
UP. THANK YOU IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OF A B 25 95, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. IN OUR FIRST LINE IS TO 10
TO 10. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. IS
YOUR PHONE ON MUTE TO 10. PLEASE
GO AHEAD. 2 TO 10. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. MOVING ALONG TO LINE 1 59
1 LINE IS OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON.
WE'RE MEXICANS, SALAS WITH THE
NATIONALISTS, OC ATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN. Q ALL
RIGHT, LET'S TURN THE OPPOSITION
TO A B 25 95. I SEE THAT THERE
ARE NO PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. ANYONE HERE IN ROOM
2100 AND OPPOSITION TO A B 25
95. PLEASE APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE, SAYING NO. ONE
APPROACHING MICROPHONE, LET'S
TURN TO THE PHONE LINE. MATTER
IF YOU WOULD QUEUE UP THOSE IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 25 95. THANK
YOU IF YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION OF
A B 25 95, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND WE
HAVE NO ONE FILLING UP. ALL
RIGHT, UH, BACK HERE TO
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. SEEING NO QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. IS THERE A
MOTION SENATOR STERN MOVES THE
BILL. SUDDENLY MEMBER JOHN
SAWYER DO CARE CLOSE. THANK YOU.
RESPECTFULLY ASK THREE. I VOTE.
THANK YOU. MADAM SECRETARY,
WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
THE MOTION IS DUE PAST BUT FIRST
BE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS HAMBURG GORGEOUS
CABALLERO. COPY OR I, DURAZO,
GONZALES GONZALES. I HERTZBERG
JONES. FLARED. LAYERED I MCGUIRE
STERN. STERN. I WIENER. YOU HAVE
60 0 WITH MEMBERS MISSING.
ALRIGHT WE'LL PUT THAT ON CALL.
THANK YOU SEE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
NAZARIAN WHO HAS BEEN HERE?
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S NAZARIAN ITEM
NUMBER 35 A. J. R 27. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR AND SENATORS AM HERE ON
BEHALF OF A YEAR. 27 THE
ARMENIAN, SYRIAN AND GREEK
GENOCIDE COMMEMORATION OF 1915.
UM. I JUST WANTED TO LET THIS
COMMITTEE KNOW THAT UNTIL TODAY
, THE LEADERS OF TURKEY DENIED
THAT THE GENOCIDE HAS EVER TAKEN
PLACE. UH, WILL,UH, USUALLY
TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
AGAINST IN TESTIMONY OF SUCH
EFFORTS. AND WE'VE SEEN THE
CONSEQUENCES OF NOT RECOGNIZING
THE GENOCIDE DOES TO FUTURE
GENERATIONS. WE'RE LIVING
THROUGH AN ATTACK RIGHT NOW.
IT'S BEEN OVER THREE MONTHS THAT
WE'VE SEEN RUSSIA INVADE AND
BRUTALLY BRUTALIZE UKRAINE, UH
AND CONTINUE ITS ACTIVITIES THAT
IT HAD STARTED. 70 80 YEARS AGO.
SO WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY
ASKED FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK
YOU. ALRIGHTY. UM THOSE IN
SUPPORT OF A J. R. 27 PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. WE HAVE
FOCUSED ON THE PHONE. E G. R 27.
IF YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A J. R 27.
APOLOGIZE MR CHAIR. I DO HAVE
MIRON TOO MUCH GIN ALRIGHT,
DIRECTOR OF WESTERN REGION
DIRECTOR OF THE ARMENIAN
ASSEMBLY OF AMERICA ON THE
PHONE. ALRIGHT UM TRA MARGIN IF
YOU WILL IDENTIFY YOURSELF. YES,
THIS IS ME AROUND TO MARGIN. ALL
RIGHT, GO AHEAD. THE NEW
CHAIRMAN, NUMBER VICE CHAIRMAN
BORDERS DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. I HAVE THE HONOR
OF BRIEFLY TESTIFYING TODAY AS
THE GRANDSON OF ARMENIAN
GENOCIDE SURVIVORS. AND ON
BEHALF OF MY NATIONWIDE
NONPARTISAN, NONPROFIT ADVOCACY
ORGANIZATION, THE ARMENIAN
ASSEMBLY OF AMERICA. THE
ASSEMBLY SUPPORTS THE ADOPTION
OF THE JR 27 MEMORY OF THE
MILLIONS OF INDIGENOUS ARMENIANS
, SYRIANS, PANTIC, IONIAN AND
THREE SHE AND GREEKS WHO WERE
SYSTEMATICALLY ANNIHILATED FROM
THEIR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND, BUT
THE ADMIN TURKISH EMPIRE AND ITS
SUCCESSOR NATIONALISTS HEADED BY
MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATURK. WE
SUPPORT A JR 27 AS THIS BILL
ALIGNED WITH THE ARMENIAN
ASSEMBLY OF AMERICA'S CORE
VALUES AND PRINCIPLES. INCLUDING
WITH THE IMPORTANCE THAT WE
ATTACH TOWARDS HUMAN RIGHTS AND
GENOCIDE, EDUCATION AND
PREVENTION DATE. 31 COUNTRIES,
INCLUDING THE US OFFICIALLY
RECOGNIZED THE ARMENIAN
GENOCIDE. PRESIDENT BIDEN
OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED GENOCIDE
ON APRIL 24 2021 REAFFIRMED HIS
POSITION IN APRIL 2022. IN
ADDITION, PRESIDENT REAGAN
REFERENCED THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE
IN A SPEECH THAT HE DELIVERED
APRIL 1981. AND MARCH 13 2022
GOVERNOR, KATE REED'S OF
MISSISSIPPI ISSUED A
PROCLAMATION MARK APRIL 2022 AS
GENOCIDE AWARENESS AND
PREVENTION MONTH IN THE STATE OF
MISSISSIPPI. BY DOING THAT, UH,
ALL 50 STATES OF OUR UNION NOW
RECOGNIZED THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE
, EITHER BY WAY OF LEGISLATIVE
RESOLUTIONS OR GUBERNATORIAL
PROCLAMATION. AND A LOT HAS BEEN
DONE ON THE GENOCIDE, EDUCATION
FRONT AS WELL AND CERTAINLY HERE
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
WHICH IS ONE OF THE FIRST STATES
TO ADOPT LEGISLATION REQUIRING
THE INSTRUCTION OF THE ARMENIAN
GENOCIDE IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS
ALONGSIDE THE TEACHING OF
SLAVERY, THE HOLOCAUST, OTHER
GENOCIDES. IT'S IMPORTANT TO
ADOPT A GR 27 NOT JUST FOR
HISTORICAL PURPOSES. BUT ALSO
FOR THE HERE AND NOW THE ERDOGAN
REGIME IN TURKEY TODAY IS NOT
ONLY BLATANTLY DENYING THE
GENOCIDE OF THE ARMENIAN,
ASSYRIAN AND GREEK PEOPLE BUT
HAS EMBARKED ON A DECADES LONG
POLICY TO MILITARILY.
FINANCIALLY LOGISTICALLY AND
MEDICALLY AIDED AND ABETTED THE
ISLAMIC STATE AND OTHER JIHADIST
TERRORIST GROUPS ACROSS THE
MIDDLE EAST TO COMMIT MASS
ATROCITIES UPON ETHNIC
MINORITIES INDIGENOUS TO
NORTHERN SYRIA AND NORTHERN
IRAQ. INCLUDING YAZIDIS,
ASSYRIANS AND CAL BIAN'S WHO
FACE CONSTANT PERSECUTION BY
TURKISH BACKED TERRORIST
ORGANIZATION. TURKEY'S LINKS TO
THE ISLAMIC STATE ARE WELL
DOCUMENTED IN TWO PUBLISHED
RESEARCH PAPERS. BY COLUMBIA
UNIVERSITY'S INSTITUTE FOR THE
STUDY OF HUMAN RIGHTS, AND JUST
OVER THIS PAST MONTH, TURKEY HAS
UNLEASHED A NEW ROUND OF STATE
SPONSORED TERROR UPON THE YAZIDI
MINORITY IN NORTHERN IRAQ. BUT
TARGETING TURKISH STRAIGHT
STRIKE DRONES ON CIVILIAN
POPULATED AREAS ON MOUNT SINJAR
, RESULTING IN DOZENS OF DEATHS
, INJURIES AND WIDESPREAD
INFRASTRUCTURE DAMAGE IN
CONCLUSION, THE PASSAGE OF HR 27
WOULD NOT ONLY HONOR THE MEMORY
OF THE VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS OF
THE ARMENIAN, ASSYRIAN AND GREEK
GENOCIDE. COOL CLEAR STATEMENT
BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE
WORLD'S FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY,
THAT THE DENIAL OF GENOCIDE IS
OUTRAGEOUS AND UNACCEPTABLE,
WHILE THE PERPETRATION OF
PRESENT DAY MASS ATROCITIES BY
TURKEY AND TURKISH SUPPORTED
TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS ITS
VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL HUMAN
RIGHTS LAW AND WORTHY OF
CRIMINAL PROSECUTION IN AN
INTERNATIONAL COURT OF LAW, FOR
ALL THE REASONS ARTICULATED, I
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF A JR 27
HERE IN THE COMMITTEE HEARING
WHAT I'M SEEING NO ONE
APPROACHED THE MICROPHONE ON THE
PHONE. WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF A
GR 27 MODERATE IF YOU WOULD
QUEUE THEM UP. THANK YOU. IF YOU
ARE IN SUPPORT OF A JR 27,
PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE NO ONE
KILLING UP. ALRIGHT. UM LET'S
TURN TO THE OPPOSITION. WE HAVE
CARAVAN, MEHDI. ALRIGHT
APPROACHED THE MICROPHONE AND WE
WENT OVER ON THE PROPONENTS SIDE
SO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBER OF THE
COMMITTEE. I'M A PRESIDENT OF
THE TURKISH ALLIANCE IN
CALIFORNIA. LIKE PREVIOUS
RESOLUTION AGE 217. CONTAINED
FALSE AND FORGED INFORMATION.
BECAUSE PREPARED SOLELY FOR
PROPAGANDA. IS AN EXAMPLE OF
FALSE AND FORGED INFORMATION. 18
78. ARMENIAN PATRIARCH REPORTED
IN BERLIN INTERNATIONAL
CONGRESS. ARMENIAN POPULATION
WAS 1,100,000 IN ENTIRE OTTOMAN
EMPIRE. 401. 1000 154 ARMENIAN
LIVED EASTERN ANATOLIA, WHERE
THE CIVIL WAR TOOK PLACE IN
1914. ONE MILLION. ACCORDING TO
RESOLUTION 1,000,100 TO 2000
SAVED BY THE UNITED STATES. AND
1,500,000 KILLED OF MS SECURE.
TOTAL IS 2,632,000. LET IT LET'S
DEDUCTED 2,600,000 1 3,031,054.
WHO LIVED IN CARCASSES. THIS
NUMBER FOUR FROM AGE 27 YOU DO
THE MATH. MARK TWAIN STATED THAT
IT IS EASIER TO FOOL THE PEOPLE
THEN ECONOMIST THEM THAT THEY
HAVE BEEN FULL. WE HAVE BEEN
ACCUSED THE NINE OF SO CALLED
ARMENIAN GENOCIDE. THE
INTERNATIONAL COURT REJECTED
ARMENIAN REQUEST TWO TIMES IN
THIS SUBJECT. JOSEPH KABUL
PROPOSAL, THE MINISTER STATED.
IF YOU REPEAT THE LIE OFTEN
ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE IN
IT. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU
12. COUPLE OF FISH. SHORT
DOCUMENT FROM US AND ARMENIAN
ARCHIVES WHICH MIGHT HELP YOU TO
MAKE A DECISION. JULY 19TH 23,
ARMENIAN PRIME MINISTER THAT
SUNNI ADDRESSED ARMENIAN
ASSEMBLY IN BUCHAREST. I COULD.
IN THE FALL. NO FAULT OF 1914.
ARMENIAN VOLUNTEER BANDS
ORGANIZED THEMSELVES AND VOTE
AGAINST THE TURKS BECAUSE THEY
COULD NOT DO FRAME. FROM
ORGANIZING AND FROM FIGHTING.
THIS WAS INEVITABLE, INEVITABLE
RESULT OR PSYCHOLOGY ON WHICH
ARMENIAN PEOPLE HAD NOURISHED
THEMSELVES ENCOURAGE GENERATION.
WE DID NOT DOUBT THAT WHY WOULD
BE ENDED WITH COMPLETE VICTORY
OF THE ALLIES? TURKEY WILL BE
DEFEATED. AND THIS MOMENT AND
ITS ARMENIAN POPULATION. BUT AT
LAST BE LIBERATED. SECOND ONE IS
TO ML BRISTOL RAIL ADMIRAL U S
NAVY REPORT REPORTED FROM THE
REGION. BUT HE WAS SERVING AS
THE UNITED STATES. THANK YOU, MR
CARNAHAN. IF YOU WRAP IT UP.
OKAY? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS.
I DIDN'T APPRECIATE THIS. YOU
KNOW, EVERYBODY HAD THE GOOD
TIME. LONG TIME. I DIDN'T HAVE
IT. I JUST KIND OF THREE MINUTES
, SIR. GO AHEAD. IF YOU WANT TO
WRAP IT UP. ARE YOU OPPOSED? I
OPPOSE IS 80 TO 82 IS A COPY OF
THE PACE FROM THIS AGENT TO
SUBMIT ANY ADDITIONAL WRITTEN
COMMENTS. NO NO, I'M JUST GONNA
WANT 11 COMMENT. GIVE YOU 10
SECONDS. OKAY? EACH 82 HAS BEEN
INTRODUCING PAST AND ENROLLED IN
THIS IN THE SENATE. AND THIS WAS
HAS BEEN COPIED FROM THE THANK
YOU, SIR. YOU'RE YOU'RE WELCOME
TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL WRITTEN
COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
OKAY OTHERS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO A
J. R 27. SAYING NO ONE
APPROACHES MICROPHONE. LET'S
TURN TO THE PHONE LINES FOR
THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO AGUILAR
27 YOUR NAME, YOUR AFFILIATION
AND YOUR POSITION. THANK YOU. IF
YOU ARE OPPOSED TO A J R 27,
PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE NO ONE
QUEUING UP. ALRIGHT BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS COMMENTS,
SAYING NO QUESTIONS OR COME.
SARAH LAIRD, SENATOR LAIRD
MOVES, ALL RIGHT. REMEMBER THE
SYRIAN, YOUR KID OR CLOSE? UM. I
JUST RESPECTFULLY ASKED WHERE I
VOTE, AND I JUST ASKED ALL OF US
TO REMEMBER NEXT YEAR I WON'T BE
HERE. SO I JUST ASKED ALL OF US
TO REMEMBER IF WHAT IT WOULD
FEEL LIKE IF WE SAID THERE WERE
INDIVIDUALS WHO GOT UP HERE AND
SAID THAT SLAVERY NEVER HAPPENED
IN THE US WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF
WE SAY THAT? THERE WAS NEVER A
JEWISH HOLOCAUST. WHAT IF WE SAY
THAT CAMBODIANS WERE NEVER
MASSACRED? AH OR MASS
ATROCITIES. AH FOR THE LAST
CENTURY DIDN'T HAPPEN IN AFRICA
IN MANY DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, SO
THE LIST CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON
, INSTEAD OF LEARNING FROM THESE
ATROCITIES AND BECOMING BETTER
AS A CIVILIZATION AS A WORLD WE
STILL HAVE INDIVIDUALS AND
REGIMES THAT ARE LIVING IN THE
PAST, AND IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE
. SO I JUST ASKED THAT WAS FOR
YOU TO RESPECTFULLY SUPPORT. AND
TO ALWAYS SUPPORT THIS MOVING
FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
SIR. ALRIGHT UM, MADAM
SECRETARY. IF YOU CALL THE ROLL
MOVED BY SENATOR LAIRD. THE
MOTION IS BE ADOPTED HAMBURG
HAMBURG. I BORE GIS CABALLERO.
TO RUSSELL. SO I GONZALES.
GONZALEZ I HERZBERG HERZBERG
JONES. FLARED. MCGUIRE STERN.
WIENER. YOU HAVE 5 TO 0 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING. ALRIGHT WE'LL
PUT THAT ON CALL. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT, UM. ALRIGHT NEXT, UH,
SOMEBODY MEMBER GABRIEL FILE
ITEM NUMBER 17 21 93 FOLLOWED BY
FILLING NUMBER 18, MAYBE 25 20.
GO AHEAD, 21 93 1ST WHICHEVER
YOU CHOOSE. OKAY WE'LL DO THAT.
THANK YOU. MR CHAIR MEMBERS
PLEASED TODAY TO BE HERE TO
PRESENT TWO BILLS, WITH BOTH
ADDRESSING THE SAME BROADER
TOPIC OF ACCESS TO JUSTICE,
WHICH IS ONE THAT IS NEAR, DEAR
TO MY HEART. PLEASED TODAY TO
START WITH A B 21 93, WHICH
STRENGTHENS THE SARGENT SHRIVER
CIVIL COUNCIL ACT, WHICH
PROVIDES LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO
LOW INCOME CALIFORNIANS IN HIGH
STAKES CIVIL MATTERS IMPACTING
BASIC HUMAN NEEDS, SUCH AS CHILD
CUSTODY, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND
EVICTION PROCEEDINGS. IN 2019,
THE GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO LAW A B
3 30 BIPARTISANLEGISLATION,
WHICH SIGNIFICANTLY EXPANDED THE
SHRIVER PROGRAM SO THAT MORE
CALIFORNIANS CAN BE ASSURED OF
MEANINGFUL ACCESS TO JUSTICE
THROUGH OUR LEGAL SYSTEM. THIS
BILL BUILDS ON THAT PROGRESS BY
HELPING TO ENSURE THAT ALL
CALIFORNIANS REGARDLESS OF THEIR
IMMIGRATION STATUS, ARE ELIGIBLE
FOR LEGAL ASSISTANCE PROVIDED
UNDER THE TRIBAL PROGRAM.
UNFORTUNATELY MANY LEGAL
SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE
DOING SUCH GOOD WORK IN OUR
COMMUNITIES ARE UNABLE TO
PROVIDE REPRESENTATION TO
UNDOCUMENTED CALIFORNIANS
BECAUSE OF CONDITIONS ATTACHED
TO FEDERAL FUNDING. THIS
LEGISLATION UP TO ADDRESS THAT
INJUSTICE BY ENCOURAGING SHRIVER
PROGRAMS TO EXPLORE WAYS TO
BETTER SERVE EVERYONE,
REGARDLESS OF THEIR CITIZENSHIP,
IMMIGRATION STATUS AND BY HAVING
THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL CONSIDER A
PROGRAM'S ABILITY TO SERVE
UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS IN
THEIR GRANT APPLICATION. THIS
REQUIREMENT IS BOTH MORAL AND
DEEPLY PRACTICAL, ESPECIALLY THE
TIME WHEN ARE UNDOCUMENTED
NEIGHBORS, WHO ARE AMONG THE
MOST VULNERABLE CALIFORNIANS ARE
BEING DENIED RELIEF PROVIDED TO
OTHER CALIFORNIANS AND ARE
THEREFORE MORE LIKELY TO BE IN
NEED OF EXACTLY THE TYPE OF
SERVICES PROVIDED UNDER THE
SHRIVER PROGRAM. I WANT TO THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR IN YOUR COMMITTEE
FOR YOUR VERY THOUGHTFUL WORK ON
THIS MEASURE. I AM PLEASED TO
ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS TO THE
BILL THAT ARE PROPOSING WITH ME
TODAY TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT AS
LAUREN KLEIN, DIRECTOR OF
ADVOCACY AT THE LEGAL AID
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA THANK
YOU AND WOULD RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST AND I VOTE ALREADY.
THANK YOU, UM, LAUREN KLEIN. IF
YOU'RE ON THE PHONE LINE IF YOU
IDENTIFY YOURSELF FROM HERE. ALL
RIGHT, GO AHEAD. FLOOR'S YOURS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, SENATORS. MY
NAME IS LAUREN KLEIN. AND I'M
THE DIRECTOR THAT BECAUSE HE IS
THE LEGAL AID ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA WE REPRESENT A
NETWORK OF MORE THAN 108 100
NONPROFITS THAT PROVIDE FREE
CIVIL LEGAL ASSISTANCE.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GABRIEL
EXPLAINED TO SERGEANT TREVOR
CIVIL COUNCIL ACT WAS PASSED BY
THE LEGISLATURE IN 2000 AND NINE
SINCE THE PROGRAM BEGAN TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF LOW INCOME BUT
AGAINST THE RECEIVE
REPRESENTATION AND SERVICES. AND
THANKS TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S,
GABRIEL A. B 3 30 2019. THE
DRIVER PROGRAM WAS EXPANDED AND
CONTINUES TODAY. EACH DRIVER
PROJECT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN
A COURSE IN A LEAD LEGAL
SERVICES AGENCY. EACH PROJECT
ALSO HAS A LOCAL ADVISORY
COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE BENCH.
PORTED MINISTRATIONS BELIEVE
LEGAL SERVICES AGENCY AND OTHER
AGENCIES AND PROVIDERS THAT ARE
PART OF THE LOCAL TEAM. WHILE
THE DRIVER PROGRM HAS ACHIEVED
INDISPUTABLE SUCCESS, THERE IS A
GAS AND SERVICES AND SOME
COMMUNITIES, BUT THIS BILL IS
DESIGNED TO ADDRESS FOR SEVERAL
SHRIVER PROJECTS. THAT LEAD
LEGAL SERVICES AGENCY IS ONE
THAT RECEIVES FEDERAL FUNDING
FROM THE LEGAL SERVICES
CORPORATION, OR LSD RESTRICTION
CONNECTED TO THAT FUNDING. THOSE
LEAD AGENCIES ARE NOT ABLE TO
SERVE UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS
TO AN EXTENT COMMENSURATE BUT
THEY'RE DOCUMENTED CLIENT.
PISTOL SEEKS TO ENSURE THAT
UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS RECEIVE
THE ASSISTANCE TO WHICH THEY ARE
RIGHTFULLY ENTITLED. MAYBE 21 93
ADDRESSES THIS GAP IN TWO WAYS.
FIRST FOR EXISTING SHRIVER
PROJECT, IN WHICH THE LEAD
AGENCY IS SUBJECT TO THE LSD
RESTRICTIONS. THE BILL WILL
REQUIRE THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL TO
WORK WITH PROGRAMS TO EXPLORE
WAYS TO EXPAND ACCESS TO LEGAL
SERVICES FOR UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE
, INCLUDING POTENTIAL
OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTRACT WITH
PROVIDERS THAT ARE NOT SUBJECT
TO THE SAME PROHIBITION. AND TO
INCLUDE THEM AS A MEMBER OF THE
LOCAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SECOND
FOR NEW PROGRAM PROPOSALS OVER
WILL REQUIRE THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL TO GIVE ADDITIONAL
CONSIDERATION TO PROGRAMS THAT
HAVE A PLAN TO PROVIDE THE
SERVICES REGARDLESS OF
IMMIGRATION STATUS. ADDRESSING
THIS GAP FOR THE LONG BEEN A
CONCERN OF THE JUDICIAL COUNCILS
DRIVER SELECTION COMMITTEE AS
WELL AS THE LEGAL SERVICES
COMMUNITY. 80 21 93 PROVIDES A
WAY TO ADDRESS THAT GAP FOR
THESE REASONS. I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR EYES VOTE. ALREADY
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OTHERS IN
SUPPORT OF AB 21 93 ON THE PHONE
LINE OR HERE IN THE COMMITTEE
HEARING ROOM, SEEING NO ONE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE.
MATTER IF YOU WOULD QUEUE UP
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A B 21 93.
THANK YOU IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 21 93, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND OUR
FIRST PERSON IS LYING. 1 50,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
, REBECCA CAN POLICY FOR THE
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU NEXT.
NEXT. WE HAVE ONE MORE IN Q ONE
MOMENT, PLEASE. AND THAT IS LINE
1 98, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI THIS
IS BARRY, A HUNT COLLEGE, THE
PARTY AND ADVOCACY COORDINATOR
FOR CARE SACRAMENTO VALLEY
CALLING ON BEHALF OF CARE,
CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THIS, BILL, THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO ONE
ELSE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY LET'S
TURN TO OPPOSITION. I SEE NO
PRIMARY WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
LISTED. IF YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION
, PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE
. SEE? NO ONE APPROACHED THE
MICROPHONE HERE IN TORONTO,
2100. MATTER IF OU WOULD QUEUE
UP THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED A B 21
93 ON THE PHONE LINE. THANK YOU
. IF YOU ARE AN OPPOSITION OF
THE A B 21 93 POLICE PAST 10 AT
THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE NO ONE
QUEUING UP. ALRIGHT UM,
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS COMMENTS,
SAYING NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
SENATOR HERZBERG MOVES THE BILL,
ALL RIGHT? ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GABRIEL. ALRIGHT UH, YOU CARE TO
CLOSE? YES THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SENATOR. I WILL JUST SAY THE
FIRST TIME THAT I EVER APPEARED
IN COURT AS A YOUNG ATTORNEY WAS
ON BEHALF OF A UNDOCUMENTED
WOMAN WHO IS A VICTIM OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND HER
ABUSER WAS A CITIZEN. AND IT WAS
A VERY EYE OPENING EXPERIENCE
FOR ME FOR JUST HOW VULNERABLE
ARE UNDOCUMENTED POPULATION CAN
BE IN THE TYPES OF SERVICES THAT
WE PROVIDE UNDER THE SHRIVER
PROGRAM ARE SO DESPERATELY
NEEDED BY THAT POPULATION. SO IF
THAT WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
AND I VOTE ALREADY UM, MADAM
SECRETARY. IF YOU WOULD CALL THE
ROLL MOTION BY SENATOR HERTZBERG
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED. HAMBURG HAMBURG. I BORE
GIS. COUPLE OF EURO HUESO. BOOT.
SO I GONZALEZ. HERTZBERG
HERZBERG, I. JONES. WEIRD I AM
MCGUIRE STERN. WIENER. YOU HAVE
4 TO 0 WITH MEMBERS MISSING, ALL
RIGHT. WE'LL PUT THAT BILL ON
CALL. NEXT WE TURN TO FILING
NUMBER 18 A B 25 20 THANK YOU.
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS CONTINUE ON
THE SAME THEME TODAY PREDICT.
PLEASED TO PRESENT A B 25 20,
WHICH WILL CREATE AN OFFICE OF
ACCESS TO JUSTICE WITHIN THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
ARE WELL DOCUMENTED ACCESS TO
JUSTICE CRISIS. UNFORTUNATELY
UNDER OUR LEGAL SYSTEM, THOSE
WHO CAN AFFORD AN ATTORNEY ENJOY
BENEFITS AND PROTECTIONS WHILE
FOR MANY LOW INCOME CALIFORNIANS
THE PROMISE OF EQUAL JUSTICE
UNDER LAW. IS TOO OFTEN ILLUSORY
. THIS BILL WOULD ADDRESS THIS
INEQUITY BY ESTABLISHING AN
OFFICE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE FOCUS ON PROVIDING
ACCESS TO JUSTICE FOR LOW INCOME
AND OTHER UNDERREPRESENTED
INDIVIDUALS IN THE CALIFORNIA
CIVIL JUSTICE SYSTEM BY
IMPROVING THE DELIVERY OF LEGAL
AID SERVICES, PROMOTING
COLLABORATION BETWEEN STATE
AGENCIES, TRIAGING STATEWIDE
CIVIL LEGAL NEEDS AND DEVELOPING
POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS ON ACCESS
TO JUSTICE. THIS OFFICE WOULD
MIRA FEDERAL EQUIVALENT
ESTABLISHED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA
AND RE ESTABLISHED BY PRESIDENT
BIDEN AND WILL IMPROVE ACCESS TO
LEGAL AID SERVICES AND HELP
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES AND
COMMUNITIES IN NEED ACROSS OUR
STATE WITH ME AGAIN TODAY TO
TESTIFY AS LAUREN KLEIN?
DIRECTOR OF ADVOCACY AND AT THE
LEGAL AID ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU AND WOULD
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I VOTE.
ALREADY. MISS KLEIN. GO AHEAD.
HELLO AGAIN. SENATORS MY NAME IS
LAUREN KLEIN AND I'M WITH THE
LEGAL AID ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA. IF YOU JUST HEARD
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GABRIEL
DESCRIBED WE ARE FACING A CRISIS
OF ACCESS TO JUSTICE. COUNTLESS
PEOPLE HAVE SERIOUS LEGAL
PROBLEMS. THEY CAN'T AFFORD
LAWYERS AND THERE AREN'T ENOUGH
FREE LEGAL AID LAWYERS TO HELP
THEM. BUT TO ACHIEVE THROUGH
ACCESS TO JUSTICE, WE MUST LOOK
FURTHER THAN THE NUMBER OF
LAWYERS. WE MUST ALSO EXAMINE
OUR SYSTEM OF JUSTICE. THE LAWS
PASSED THE WAY THOSE LAWS ARE
APPLIED AND THE WAY OUR
GOVERNMENT DELIVERS PROGRAM.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE PROUD TO
SPONSOR THIS BILL TO CREATE AN
OFFICE OF ACCESS TO JUSTICE. THE
FEDERAL PROGRAM ON WHICH THIS
BILL IS BASED, HAS SEEN HUGE
SUCCESSES SINCE ITS INCEPTION.
THIS OFFICE WOULD MIRROR THE
SUCCESSFUL FEDERAL OFFICE AND
SPEAK A HOLISTIC VISION OF
ACCESS AND THREE WAYS. WITHIN
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
ITSELF. THROUGHOUT STATE
AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS AND
STATEWIDE COLLABORATION WITH
LEGAL AID. MY ORGANIZATION HAS
WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE STAFF OF
THE FEDERAL OFFICE FOR MANY
YEARS, ENDEAVORING TO REPLICATE
SOME OF THE IMPACTS HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN
CALIFORNIA WAS TO RECEIVE A
SIGNIFICANT FEDERAL BLOCK GRANTS
FROM THE VICTIMS OF CRIME. WE
UTILIZE RESEARCH SHOWING THAT
CIVIL LEGAL INTERVENTION
IMPROVED OUTCOMES FOR CRIME
VICTIMS TO CONVINCE THE OFFICE
OF EMERGENCY SERVICES TO
INCORPORATE IT INTO THEIR
PROGRAM, ULTIMATELY TENS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THROUGH
SEVERAL GRANT PROGRAMS FUNDED
SERVICES FOR COUNTLESS CRIME
VICTIMS. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE
BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT SOMEONE
FACILITATING A FOCUS ON ACCESS
TO JUSTICE AND COLLABORATION
WITH LEGAL AID, WHICH IS WHAT
THIS BILL WILL ACCOMPLISH ON A
LARGER SCALE. I HAVE HAD THE
PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH
LEADERS IN THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE OVER THE PAST
SEVERAL MONTHS, AND I'M
GENUINELY EXCITED ABOUT THEIR
VISION FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF
THIS BILL. NOT ONLY WILL THIS
BUILD CREATE A RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE AND FREE LEGAL AID FOR
LOW INCOME PEOPLE WERE NONE
CURRENTLY EXIST. IT WILL ADDRESS
ACCESS TO JUSTICE ISSUES ACROSS
THE AGENCIES AND PROGRAMS,
CREATING INNUMERABLE IMPACT FOR
THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT MOST FOR
THESE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR I VOTE. ALL RIGHT,
UH, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OF A B 25 20. IF YOU
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE, SAYING
NO ONE APPROACHED THE MICROPHONE
MATTER REVIEW WOULD QUEUE UP
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A B 25 20.
THANK YOU. IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 25 20, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO. AND OUR FIRST PERSON
IS LYING TO 18. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
CAPTION IN MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS,
GREGORY CRAMER ON BEHALF OF
DISABILITY RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT OF A B 25 20. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE
IN. Q ALRIGHT. BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. THEIR MOTION SENATE.
HERZBERG MOVES THE BILL. SOME OF
THE MEMBER GABRIEL CARE CLOSE.
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING I VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MOVED BY
SENATOR HERZBERG, MADAM
SECRETARY IF YOU WOULD CALL A
ROLE THE MOTION IS DUE PAST BUT
FIRST WE RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
NUMBER. GBAGBO, REGIS.
CABALLERO. GRASSO. SO I CAN
SALAS. HERTZBERG, HERZBERG, I.
JONES. JONES? NO BLARED MCGUIRE.
STERN. WIENER. YOU HAVE 4 TO 1
WITH MEMBERS MISSING. MARTY.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 28
A B 23 92 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
IRWIN FOLLOWED BY A BEE. 18 10
BY SOME OF THE MEMBER LEVIN AND
I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S IRWIN. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR, AND SENATORS. A B
23 92 WILL HELP CALIFORNIA
CONSUMERS MORE EASILY IDENTIFY,
SECURE INTERNET OF THINGS
DEVICES BY ENCOURAGING THE
DEVELOPMENT. YEAR PRESIDENT
BIDEN, AN EXECUTIVE ORDER
DIRECTED NOUS TO DEVELOP
GUIDELINES FOR CYBERSECURITY
LABELING SCHEME FOR CONSUMER IOT
PRODUCTS. THESE ARE VERY MUCH
LIKE THE U L MARKINGS THAT YOU
SEE ON ELECTRONIC THESE LABELS
ONCE CREATED BY A PUBLIC OR
PRIVATE ORGANIZATION AND ADOPTED
BY MANUFACTURERS WILL ENABLE
CONSUMERS TO MAKE IMPORTANT
DECISIONS ABOUT THE SECURITY OF
THEIR SMART HOME DEVICES. MAYBE
23 92 BUILDS ON MY IOT SECURITY
BILL FROM 2018. THIS GLOBAL GIVE
AN ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE TO
MANUFACTURERS TO NOT ONLY
SUPPORT THE CREATION OF THESE
LABELING SCHEMES, BUT ALSO HAVE
THE IOT DEVICES BEAR THEIR
LABELS. IN DOING SO MORE
INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE TO
CONSUMERS AND EVERYBODY'S
SECURITY WILL BENEFIT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. I NOTE THAT THIS
IS SUCH A GOOD BILL THAT THERE
ARE NO WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. HOWEVER IF YOU WISH
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF A B 23
92 HE APPROACHED MICROPHONE,
SAYING NO ONE APPROACHES THE
MICROPHONE MODERATE IF YOU WOULD
QUEUE UP THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A B
23 92 THANK YOU IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OF A B 23 92, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO. AND WE
HAVE NO ONE IN QUÊ. ALREADY
LET'S GO TO OPPOSITION. IF YOU
WISH TO TESTIFY AN OPPOSITION A
B 23 92. I SEE NO PRIMARY
WITNESSES LISTED IN OPPOSITION
APPROACHED THE MICROPHONE SAYING
NO ONE APPROACHING MY PHONE
MODERATOR FEUD QUÊ UP THOSE IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 23 92. THANK
YOU. IF YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION OF
A B 23 92, PLEASE PRESS ONE MAN
ZERO. AND WE HAVE NO ONE IN Q.
LET'S BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE, SENATOR HERTZBERG I'M
SORRY. ONE SECOND SENATOR
HERTZBERG. WE DO HAVE SOMEONE IN
CUBE, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. HER
HUSBAND. YEAH. SUPPORT. ALRIGHT
MODERATOR. THERE'S SOMEONE THREE
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON. ASSOCIATION OF
HORRIFYING MANUFACTURERS WILL
BIT OF QUEEN EVERYONE RESPONSIVE
CITY UNTIL YOU HAVE THE
STATIONS. THANK YOU. PARTY.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE
MODERATOR? WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE
IN. Q ALL RIGHT NOW BACK TO
SENATOR HERZBERG. I JUST WANNA
SAY HATS OFF TO THE AUTHOR.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, SO MUCH OF
WHAT WE DO AROUND HERE HAS TO BE
SPONSORED BY SOMEBODY ELSE. AND
UM, THIS AUTHOR HAS DEMONSTRATED
AN EXTRAORDINARY APTITUDE IN
THIS IN THIS FIELD OF POLICY AND
LAW AND DOESN'T NEED AN AUTHOR
TO COME UP WITH CREATIVE IDEAS.
AND I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW, I
REMEMBER OFTEN I PEOPLE WOULD
SAY DON'T HAVE YOU DON'T HAVE A
SPONSOR, AND I SAID, I'M YOUR
SPONSOR. FOR IT WAS MY IDEA. AND
THEN PEOPLE WOULD COME ALONG, SO
I ACTUALLY COULD CELEBRATE THAT,
AND SHE KNOWS HER STUFF. ISSUES
HELPED SO MANY OF US WITH THESE
ISSUES ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, AND
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE HER AND I
WANT TO MOVE THE BILL. ALRIGHT
SO MOVED FURTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS ALL ASSOCIATE MYSELF
WITH SENATOR HERZBERG, WOULD YOU
CARE TO CLOSE? JUST WANT TO
THANK SENATOR HERTZBERG AND THE
CHAIR AND THE REST OF YOU FOR
LISTENING AND RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR A NIGHTCLUB. THANK YOU. JUST
TO BE CLEAR. YOU ACCEPTED THE
AMENDMENTS. IS THAT CORRECT?
CORRECT? ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. UM
MADAM SECRETARY, IF YOU CALL
ROLL. THE MOTION IS DUE PASSES
AMENDED BUT FIRST AMEND AND RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. HAMBURG HAMBURG
. I BORE GIS CABALLERO TO RUSTLE
Hí
HERZBERG, I. JONES. LAYERED
MCGUIRE. STERN. WIENER YOU HAVE
4 TO 0 WITH MEMBERS MISSING
ALREADY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM
WE'LL PUT THAT ON CALL. NEXT WE
HAVE THE LONG SUFFERING
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S LEVIN. SO.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I WAS EAGER
TO DO THIS BILL. MY DAUGHTER
WHO'S 13 ELECTED TO GET HER EARS
PIERCED TODAY AND SO TALKING
ABOUT LONG SUFFERING. I HAVEN'T
HEARD YET HOW THAT WENT, AND I'M
EAGER TO GET HOME AND SEE HER
AND SEE. HOW THAT HOW THAT WORKS
FOR HER. WELL, WE'LL TRY NOT TO
KEEP YOU TOO LONG. ALRIGHT I'LL
TRY NOT TO SPEAK TOO LONG TO
REPORT BACK. YOU GOT IT? YEAH,
I'VE ASKED FOR PHOTOS. UM
ALRIGHT. SO, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS THANK YOU. THERE ARE
NEARLY 60,000 CHILDREN LIVING
WITH EPILEPSY AND CALIFORNIA,
INCLUDING ONE OF MINE SEIZURES
ARE UNPREDICTABLE AND CAN OCCUR
ANY TIME, INCLUDING DURING THE
HOURS A CHILD IS IN SCHOOL
SCHOOL. NURSES ARE TRAINED TO
ADMINISTER MEDICATION, BUT MAY
NOT BE ON SITE OR AVAILABLE TO
ADMINISTER ANTI SEIZURE
MEDICATION. WHEN ONE OCCURS. 18
10 ESTABLISHES THE SEIZURE SAFE
SCHOOLS ACT TO ALLOW SCHOOLS TO
DESIGNATE ONE OR MORE VOLUNTEERS
TO RECEIVE INITIAL AND ANNUAL
REFRESHER TRAINING. FOR THE
EMERGENCY USE OF ANTI SEIZURE
MEDICATION FOR A PUPIL DIAGNOSED
WITH SEIZURES, SEIZURE DISORDER
OR EPILEPSY IF THE PUPIL IS
SUFFERING FROM A SEIZURE, THE
VOLUNTEER WOULD BE TRAINED IN
RECOGNIZING THE SIGNS AND
SYMPTOMS OF SEIZURES IN THE
APPROPRIATE STEPS TO TAKE TO
RESPOND TO THOSE SYMPTOMS. THE
VOLUNTEER WOULD ALSO BE PROVIDED
WITH THE STUDENTS.
INDIVIDUALIZED SEIZURE ACTION
PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES INFORMATION
FROM THE STUDENTS, DOCTOR AND
PARENTS, CALIFORNIA HAS ENACTED
SIMILAR LAWS FOR THE USE OF
EPINEPHRINE FOR ALLERGIC
REACTIONS AND ALLAN STONE FOR
OPIOID OVERDOSES. IN ADDITION,
12 OTHER STATES HAVE ALREADY
IMPLEMENTED VERSIONS. OF THE
SEIZURE SAFE SCHOOLS ACT, A B 18
10 PROVIDES SCHOOL SITES WITH
THE INFORMATION AND TRAINING
NECESSARY TO AID CHILDREN WHO
HAVE SEIZURES WHILE ON CAMPUS
AND CREATE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT
FOR THESE CHILDREN TO SUCCEED.
AND STAY IN SCHOOL. THIS BILL
ENJOYS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND
PASSED UNANIMOUS UNANIMOUSLY OUT
OF SENATE EDUCATION COMMITTEE ON
THE PHONE LINES TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT OF A B 2 18 10. OUR
REBECCA HOLLOWELL AND DAVID
PARKER AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR MY VOTE. ALRIGHT MISS
HOLLOWELL, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE
OR MR PARKER? I AM AFTERNOON. MY
NAME. REBECCA HOLLOWELL DIRECTED
THE FOUNDATION AND I THINK YOU
THE CHAIR MANY MEMBERS FOR THE
CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY.
OUR ORGANIZATION WORKS CLOSELY
WITH THE EPILEPSY FOUNDATION
THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO ENSURE
THE RIGHTS FOR APPROXIMATELY
427,000, CALIFORNIA WITH THAT
FLAT FEET OF WHICH 59,800 OR
CHILDREN WHILE WE ALL WANT TO
SCHOOL NURSE ON EVERY CAMPUS.
THE REALITY IS WE'RE NOT THERE
YET, AND THE FACT IS THAT A
PERSON DOES NOT NEED TO BE A
LICENSED PROFESSIONALS TO ASSIST
SOMEONE HAVING A SEIZURE. WE'RE
IN THE SCHOOLS FREQUENTLY
TRADING ON FUTURE RECOGNITION
AND RESPONSE, INCLUDING THE
ADMINISTRATION OF EMERGENCY
SEIZURE, RESCUE MEDICATION. WE
ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE MANY SCHOOL-EMPLOYEES TO STEP UP ON THEIR
OWN ACCORD TO LEARN SO THEY CAN
BE IN A POSITION TO HELP. RATHER
THAN STAND BY FEELING HELPLESS.
HOWEVER WE OWE IT FOR OUR
CHILDREN WITHOUT BLOOD BE TO
IMPROVE UPON THE CURRENT
LANDSCAPE BY OFFERING BETTER
SUPPORT, GUIDANCE AND
CLARIFICATION. MAYBE 18 TANDEM
THAT EVERYBODY UNIFORM STANDARD
OF TRAINING FOR VOLUNTEERS.
SPILL ALSO, STATE GUARD POSITION
DIRECTED CARE BY SUPPORTING
DEVELOPMENT OF A SEIZURE ACTION
PLAN. THEN, LASTLY BUILT FURTHER
GUARANTEES. THOSE ARE LEGAL
PROTECTIONS FROM THE VOICE. YOU
VOLUNTEERED TO SUPPORT A
STUDENT. WE ARE CONFIDENT WITH
THE ULTIMATE PASSAGE. IT IS
STILL LOST, YOU WILL BE IMPROVED
THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF INJURY
AND DEATH FOR STUDENT WE
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO VOTE I
AND THAT'S PROPOSED MEASURES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, MISS
ELLA. WELL, NEXT, MR PARKER.
GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. CHAIR
AMBERG AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF
THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO
TODAY. MY NAME IS DAVID PARKER.%
AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT
MY SEVEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER,
VIVIAN. VIVIENNE LOVES PLAYING
WITH BARBIES HANGING OUT WITH
HER LITTLE SISTER, DAPHNE AND
SEEING HER FRIENDS AT SCHOOL.
HE'S ALSO BEEN HAVING SEIZURES
SINCE SHE WAS FIVE MONTHS OLD.
AFTER EIGHT MONTHS OF REMOTE
KINDERGARTEN STARTED SCHOOL IN
PERSON IN APRIL, 2021 ACTUALLY
IN SENATOR DURAZO'S DISTRICTS.
THE FIRST DAY WAS PERFECT
EVERYTHING WE HOPED IT WOULD BE
ON THE SECOND DAY, VIVIAN HAD A
SEIZURE DURING RECESS. NOT EASY,
LEAVING A SIX YEAR OLD WITH
EPILEPSY SOMEWHERE NEW MY WIFE,
HILLARY AND I BASICALLY NEVER
DONE IT. WE WAITED TOGETHER
OUTSIDE SCHOOL THE WHOLE FIRST
DAY. AND I'M A SECOND DAY OF
KINDERGARTEN. I SPENT THE
MORNING SITTING OUTSIDE OF
SCHOOL JUST IN CASE. WHEN SCHOOL
CALLED TO TELL ME IF VIVIAN WAS
HAVING A SEIZURE. I WAS ALREADY
RIGHT THERE. I WAS EXPECTING A
CHAOTIC SCENE. SEIZURES CAN BE
SCARY, BUT EVERYONE WAS TOTALLY
CALM. THE TEACHERS, THE KID EVEN
VIVIAN, WHOSE SEIZURE HAD ENDED
AND WAS RESTING SAFE AGAIN ASIDE
, CAREFULLY FOLDED UNDERNEATH
HER HEAD. I WENT OVER TO
CYNTHIA, THE CLASSROOM MAY HAVE
TAKEN CARE OF ALIEN. SHE TOLD ME
EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO HER
FATHER GIVEN ACCOUNT OF HER
LONGEST UNDER MODERATOR,
MODERATOR, THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE
WHO'S ON THE PHONE LINE WHO'S
INTERFERING WITH THE WITNESS'S
TESTIMONY. ALL RIGHT. HOW DID
YOU STAY SO CALM? AND SHE SAID
IT WAS ALL IN THE TRAINING. WE
KNEW WHAT TO DO. A WEEK BEFORE A
HANDFUL OF EMPLOYEES THAT VIVIAN
SCHOOL VOLUNTEERED TO ATTEND A
BRIEF TRAINING WITH THE SCHOOL
NURSE AND RECOGNIZING AND
RESPONDING SEIZURES. THEY
LEARNED ABOUT WHAT A SEIZURE
LOOKED LIKE. THEY LEARNED THAT
VIVIAN HAD A SEIZURE. TURN
AROUND HER SIDE AND PROTECT YOUR
HEAD. THEY LEARNED WHEN IT WOULD
BE TIME TO GIVE VIVIAN EMERGENCY
MEDICATION IF THAT WERE
NECESSARY, AND WE'RE THAT
MEDICATION WOULD BE AND HOW TO
USE IT. EVERYONE IN THAT ROOM
WAS PAIRED PROCEDURE. THAT'S WHY
THEY WERE ABLE TO STAY SO CALM.
VIVIAN CLASSMATES COM, AVOIDING
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A TRAUMATIC
EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE. THE
NEXT DAY, VIVIAN HAD HER THIRD
DAY OF KINDERGARTEN. AND LAST
WEEK TWO WEEKS AGO NOW SHE
FINISHED FIRST GRADE GREAT YEAR.
THE TRUTH IS, THAT PROBABLY
WON'T BE THE LAST SEIZURE VIVIAN
HAS AT SCHOOL. BUT IT WAS THE
LAST TIME MY WIFE RISE AND THE
ENTIRE DAY SITTING OUTSIDE JUST
IN CASE CESAR SEIZURES CAN
DISRUPT SO MANY ASPECTS OF A
CHILD'S LIFE. EDUCATION
SHOULDN'T BE ONE OF THEM. I HOPE
YOU WILL SUPPORT THIS IMPORTANT
BILL AND HELP KIDS LIKE VIVIAN
SAFE AND SUCCESSFUL AT SCHOOL.
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT, OTHERS IN
SUPPORT OF A B 18 10. IF YOU ARE
HERE IN ROOM 21 HEART, PLEASE
APPROACH MICROPHONE, SAYING NO
ONE APPROACHED MICROPHONE
MODERATE IF YOU WOULD QUEUE UP
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A B 18 10.
THANK YOU IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 18 10, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO. AND WE HAVE ONE LINE
20, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MR CHAIR.
I'M CURTIS LING, THE CALIFORNIA
NURSES ASSOCIATION. I'M ACTUALLY
HERE IN, UH, TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. GO AHEAD. YOU CAN GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU, SIR.
ADMINISTRATION OF CAESAR. RESCUE
MEDICATIONS SUCH AS DIASTOLIC
REQUIRES A LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE
AND EXPERTISE THAT CANNOT BE
ACQUIRED WITH THE TRAINING OF
UNKNOWN DURATION FOR NON MEDICAL
OR NURSING SCHOOL PERSONNEL.
COOL LIKE WE HAVE HAD NO
EXPOSURE TO PROVIDING HEALTHCARE
SERVICES AND OR HAVE IN
UNDERSTANDING OF EPILEPSY. IT
DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY
INDICATION THAT THE DESIGNATED
SCHOOL PERSONNEL WHO WOULD
ADMINISTER SEIZURE RESCUE
MEDICATION SHOULD HAVE
EXPERIENCE AND PROVIDING FIRST
AID HAVE ANY PREVIOUS EXPOSURE
TAKES EPILEPSY. OR HAVE EVER
WITNESSED A PERSON EXPERIENCING
A SEIZURE. SEIZURE ACTIVITY DOES
NOT ALWAYS RISE TO THE LEVEL OF
AN EMERGENCY. THE ADMINISTRATION
OF DIA STAT IS SEEN AS AN
EMERGENCY AND ITS ADMINISTRATION
IS CONTRA INDICATED IF A CHILD
IS EXPERIENCING ORDINARY SEIZURE
ACTIVITY. THESE ISSUES MUST BE
CONSIDERED IN A COMPETENT
ASSESSMENT MADE PRIOR TO
MINISTERING DIA STET.
ADDITIONALLY THE ADMINISTRATION
OF ERECTILE JAIL WHEN A CHILD IS
SEIZING REQUIRES A LEVEL OF
SKILL THAT COMES WITH EXPERIENCE
TO PREVENT INJURY TO THE
INDIVIDUAL WHILE ALSO PROTECTING
THEIR PRIVACY. THERE'S NOTHING
IN THE BILL PRECLUDING
UNLICENSED STAFF FROM A
MINISTERING SEIZURE MEDICATIONS
RECKLESSLY. CHILDREN WITH
DISABILITIES, HOWEVER,
CLASSIFIED OR DO NOT ONLY A FREE
, FAIR AND APPROPRIATE EDUCATION
, BUT ALSO ACCESS TO COMPETENT,
HIGH QUALITY HEALTH SERVICES, IF
THAT IS WHAT IS REQUIRED TO
ALLOW THEM TO FUNCTION, LEARN
AND THRIVE IN EDUCATIONAL
SETTINGS. THE DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION DEVELOPED THE
GUARDIANS DOCUMENT THAT PROVIDES
ASSISTANCE TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS
AND MEETING THEIR RESPONSIBILITY
TOWARDS STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL
NEEDS. THESE APPROACHES INCLUDE
THE USE OF SCHOOL NURSES, OR M.
D S. LICENSE SCHOOL PERSONNEL
WHO WAS SUPERVISED BY A SCHOOL
NURSE, SCHOOL, M D, OR AN
APPROPRIATE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT
THAT RN FROM AN AGENCY OR
MINISTRY OF PUBLIC HEALTH NURSE
EMPLOYED BY THE LOCAL COUNTY
HEALTH DEPARTMENT. OR PARENTS
WHO CHOOSE TO PROVIDE THE
SERVICES TO THEIR CHILD OR AN
INDIVIDUAL. TELL THEM BY THE
PARENTS WHO IS NOT A SCHOOL
EMPLOYEE. ADDITIONALLY SOME
SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE CONTRACTOR
WITH L V N THE MINISTER OF
MEDICATIONS. SOME HAVE UTILIZED
PARENTS FOR LICENSED HEALTHCARE
PRACTITIONERS AND SOME NURSING
SCHOOLS HAVE USED PUBLIC SCHOOLS
TO PROVIDE CLINICAL EXPERIENCE
FOR THEIR NURSING STUDENTS. WE
SUPPORT THESE AFTER MENTIONED
APPROACHES, ALL OF WHICH WE
BELIEVE WILL ALLOW SCHOOLS TO
PROVIDE COMPETENT HEALTH
SERVICES THAT THE USE OF
LICENSED HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS
FOR THESE REASONS WE ASK FOR
YOUR NO VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH ALREADY. UM, I HAVE
CONFUSED OF SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION HERE, SO LET'S LET'S
DO THIS IF YOU ARE IN EITHER
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. YOU'RE IN
HERE IN ROOM 2100. PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE AND
PROVIDE US YOUR NAME YOUR
AFFILIATION AND POSITION. ALL
RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE APPROACHING
THE MICROPHONE MODERATE IF YOU
WOULD TO UP THOSE WHO WISH TO
TESTIFY, EITHER IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF A B 18 10 IF THEY
WOULD ANNOUNCE THEIR NAME, THEIR
AFFILIATION THEIR POSITION
EITHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSE. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU, IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO EXPRESS THE BORDER OR
OPPOSITION TO A B 18 10, PLEASE
PRESS ONE MAN ZERO THIS FOR AT
THIS TIME. AND OUR FIRST PERSON
IS LYING TO 20. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THEY TOOK THEMSELVES OUT OF. Q
WITH YOU BACK UP IF YOU'D LIKE
TO EXPRESS SUPPORTER OPPOSITION
TO A B 18 10 ONE, THEN ZERO. AND
WE HAVE NO ONE QUEUING UP.
ALRIGHT THANKS. LET'S BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS, BUT
YES, SENATOR JONES. THANK YOU.
CHAIR THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SUPPORTING YOUR
BILL TODAY AND I'VE NOTICED
YOU'VE GOT A VERY ROBUST LIST OF
CO AUTHORS. IF THERE'S AN
OPPORTUNITY ADDED ON AS A CO
AUTHOR, I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.
I HAVE AN UNCLE WHO HAS
EPILEPSY. AND MY MOM STILL, YOU
KNOW HE'S IN HIS EIGHTIES NOW
REMEMBERS FROM HER CHILDHOOD
HAVING TO DEAL WITH THESE
SITUATIONS, SO I THINK YOU'RE
DOING A GOOD THING. OUR
RESTRAINT FROM MAKING COMMENTS
REGARDING THE OPPOSITION OTHER
THAN SAY THAT IT'S UNBELIEVABLE
THAT, UM THE GROUPS THAT ARE
OPPOSING THE BILL HAVE TAKEN THE
POSITION THAT THEY HAVE AND MADE
THE ARGUMENTS THAT THEY'VE MADE.
I THINK THERE ARE UNFOUNDED AND
SO CONGRATULATIONS. I'LL MOVE
THE BILL AND LOOK FORWARD
DISAPPOINTING. ALRIGHT. OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK
YOU. NO OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS, THEN MOVED BY SENATOR
JONES. CUTER CLOTHES. YEAH THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. MR CHAIR. I WOULD
LIKE TO, UM I I'M CLOSING IN. ON
THE END OF MY 10 YEARS IN THE
LEGISLATURE I'VE AUTHORED OVER
90 LAWS. THIS IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT ONE I'VE EVER
INTRODUCED. IT'S THE MOST
PERSONAL ONE, UM, AS A FATHER OF
A CHILD WITH EPILEPSY, SOMETHING
THAT YOU KNOW IS SCARY AT FIRST.
BUT WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT A SEIZURE
IS, AND YOU KNOW HOW TO IDENTIFY
A SEIZURE, AND YOU KNOW WHAT TO
DO TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM
GETTING FURTHER HARMED. IT'S NOT
SO SCARY, JUST LIKE MR PARKER
MENTIONED WHEN HIS DAUGHTER WENT
TO HER FIRST DAY OF KINDERGARTEN
AND HAD A SEIZURE THAT THEY HAD
BEEN TRAINED. THEY KNEW TO
PROTECT HER HEAD AND TURN HER
OVER ON HER SIDE. THERE IS A
MYTH. THAT SOMEONE COULD SWALLOW
THEIR TONGUE. IT'S PHYSICALLY
IMPOSSIBLE BY THE WAY, BUT BUT
THERE'S THIS STIGMA ABOUT
SEIZURES. SO THE IMPORTANT THING
IS, DON'T PUT SOMETHING IN
SOMEONE'S MOUTH BECAUSE YOU
MIGHT BREAK THEIR TEETH. UM SO
ALL OF THESE THINGS IF YOU'VE
JUST TRAINED PEOPLE UP THEN
YOU'VE GOT NOTHING TO WORRY
ABOUT. AND THE STIGMA GOES AWAY.
JUST LIKE THE STIGMA AROUND THAT
ALLERGIES. WE'VE GOT THESE
EMERGENCY MEDICINES THAT CAN BE
GIVEN AWAY GIVEN BY VOLUNTEERS
AT SCHOOLS. BURNETT ALLERGIES OR
FOR OPIOID OVERDOSES. BUT FOR
SOME REASON, THERE'S OPPOSITION
FOR MAKING IT NORMAL. FOR PEOPLE
WHO HAVE SEIZURES TO HAVE THOSE
SEIZURES BE RECOGNIZED AND FOR
HAVING EMERGENCY MEDICATION. ITS
EMERGENCY MEDICATION BECAUSE
SEIZURES OVER FIVE MINUTES CAN
CAUSE BRAIN DAMAGE. OR DEATH. SO
WHY ARE WE STIGMATIZING THESE
KIDS? WHEN THEY HAVE THE SAME
NEED THAT THESE OTHER CHILDREN
HAVE THAT WE'VE AUTHORED THESE
OTHER BILLS FOR TO MAKE SURE
THAT THEY CAN HAVE EMERGENCY
MEDICATION MEMBERS ASKED FOR AN
I VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MADAM SECRETARY. IF YOU CALL THE
ROLL THE MOTION IS DUE PAST BUT
FIRST WE RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HAMBURG. NUMBER GUY, GORGEOUS
COUPLE EURO. SO GONZALES.
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG, I JONES.
JONES. I LAYERED BLARED. AYE.
CLEARED. I ACQUIRE MCGUIRE I
STERN WIENER. YOU HAVE 5 TO 0
WITH MEMBERS MISSING. ALRIGHTY
WE'LL PUT THAT ON CALL. THANK
YOU. ALRIGHT. NEXT
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S LOW A B 1949.
HELLO. YES NEXT FINAL NUMBER 33
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S LOAD 1949 FLOOR
IS YOURS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR TRIPPING COLLEAGUES. THIS IS
PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT I
THOUGHT WAS ACTUALLY ALREADY LAW
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, BUT
THIS PROVIDES UNPAID LEAVE
BEREAVEMENT LEAVE SPECIFICALLY
WORKING FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. TO
HELP ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDED
WITH THE BASIC LEVEL OF
PROTECTION DURING DIFFICULT
TIMES OF HARDSHIP. RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR OUR VOTE AND HAVE
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
. ALRIGHT JUST TO CLARIFY THERE
HAVE BEEN SOME AMENDMENTS
SUGGESTED IN THE ANALYSIS
BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TIME.
UM I'M GONNA ASK IF YOU IF
YOU'RE PREPARED TO TAKE THOSE
AMENDMENTS IN THE LABOR
COMMITTEE, THAT'S CORRECT. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY UM, THOSE
IN SUPPORT WE HAVE EVEN TRIES
MARIKO YOSHIHARA. UM IF EITHER
OF YOU ARE AVAILABLE, PLEASE
IDENTIFY YOURSELF. MR CHAIR,
REMEMBERS MARIKO YOSHIHARA ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
EMPLOYMENT LAWYERS ASSOCIATION.
I'LL GIVE MY TIME TO MISS TRACE
, HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE THAT THERE ARE
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
MR RICE. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU
GUYS HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU
QUITE CLEARLY. YEAH THANK YOU,
UM, CHAIR AND MEMBERS. THIS
LETTER HAS BEEN WRITTEN TO
EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR A B 1949.
BEREAVEMENT LEAVE FROM
ABBEVILLE. AN EVENT TRADE
SURVIVOR. I'M A MOTHER, A
GRANDMOTHER. I'M A COMMUNITY
LEADER. AND I'M A MEMBER. MY
FOUNDATION IS CALLED A MOTHER'S
VOICE. NOT BY CHOICE. IT WASN'T
MY SWITCH, BECAUSE, UM. I'M
SORRY. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. IT
WASN'T BACK TO WAIT. UM THAT
WORK TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FROM
OTHERS WHO LOST CHILDREN TO GUN
VIOLENCE. AND SADDENED. I'M
REALLY SAD, SAD THAT BY THE FACT
THAT IT CONTINUES TO IT
CONTINUES TO GO. UNNOTICED. IT
CONTINUES TO RESPECT OUR
FAMILIES. WHO ARE WHO ARE
FAMILIES WHO LOST LOVED ONES.
THE VINES. I LOST MY SON. MY
RESTAURANT, OBVIOUSLY 1ST 2015
DUE TO HIM BEING MURDERED. THIS
THAT SOMEONE SO CLOSE AND THAT
WAS KILLED. THIS WASN'T JUST
LIKE ANY PERSON. IT WAS MY BABY.
THIS WAS TRULY SCARY, SCARY TIME
FOR MY FAMILY IN PARTICULAR
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO
KILLED HIM. AND PARTICULARLY
BECAUSE HE WAS MURDERED. I TRIED
MY BEST TO RETURN TO WORK AFTER
THREE DAYS, HOWEVER, THE PAIN
AND THE TRAUMA COST ME TO START
A JOURNEY OF ANXIETY AND
DEPRESSION. YOU SEE, I WAS I WAS
ONLY GIVEN THREE DAYS ONLY GIVE
IT THREE DAYS OFF WORK AT THAT
TIME. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT
IT WOULD TAKE 14 DAYS JUST TO
GET MY BABY'S BODY BACK. JUST TO
GET HIS BODY BACK. SORRY JUST TO
GET IN BODY BACK FROM THE
CORNERS AND THEN MORE TIME TO
FOCUS ON THE FUNERAL AND THE
ARRANGEMENT'S GONNA OBITUARY. IT
IS SO HARD TO FOCUS WHEN YOU'RE
TRYING TO BURY YOUR CHILD OR
YOUR FAMILY MEMBER AFTER THREE
DAYS, THE HUMAN PROCESS HAS NOT
HADN'T EVEN STARTED FROM ME AT
THIS POINT. I WAS FULLY ENGAGED
IN TRAUMA. I LOST MY JOB. SO NOW
IT'S NOT ONLY DID I STILL HAVE
TO BURY MY BABY. I HAD TO FIND A
WAY TO CONTINUE. FINANCIALLY
SUPPORTING MY FAMILY AND MYSELF
, SUPPORT AND PRAISE THAT YOU
CAST THIS BUILT TO ENSURE THAT
THE FAMILY HAVE THE RIGHT TO
UNPAID BREEZINESS. EVEN THE BILL
OF EVEN SORRY LEAVING THE BILL
WILL PROVIDE. HELPING US WITH
THIS BILL WOULD PROVIDE BASIC
PROTECTION AND, UM, SHIP THAT WE
DEVELOPED, SO WE JUST TAKE TIME
TO BE ABLE TO BREATHE. IT'S HARD
TO BREATHE. IT'S HARD TO
BREATHE. WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE
THREE DAYS. IT'S HARD TO BREATHE
. WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY
TO BURY YOUR BABY. IT'S HARD TO
BELIEVE BUT BREATHE IN OUR
COMMUNITY OF BLACK AND BROWN
MOTHER. IT'S HARD TO BREATHE.
I'M STILL NOT BELIEVING LIKE WAS
, UM THEN HE WAS WAS TAKING
AUGUST 15. 2000. I'M SORRY.
STILL, EVERY TRAUMA IS STILL
THERE, BUT I KNOW THAT IF I HAVE
TIME TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR THAT
TIME TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH
THE PROCESS IT WOULD HELP A LOT
OF PEOPLE. IT'S A LOT OF MOTHERS
AND STUFF THAT STANDS ON MY
SHOULDERS. IT'S A LOT OF FATHERS
AS YOU CAN SPEAK ALL AROUND THE
WORLD. PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING. SO
I'M ASKING YOU. I'M BEGGING YOU
TREATING WITH YOU. PLEASE.
PLEASE LOOK AT US WHEN I ASKED
YOU. DID YOU HEAR ME? THAT
WASN'T A NORMAL QUESTIONS.
THAT'S WHAT WE SAID, BECAUSE WE
DIDN'T GET HURT. WE'RE NOW HAPPY
TO SAY THINGS LIKE, UH, KIND
ENOUGH TO LISTEN. EVERYONE HAS A
BOY FROM THE STORY TO TELLING US
EVEN PLEASE, I'M BEGGING YOU,
PLEASE. AND A B 194 BEREAVEMENT
BELT. THANK YOU WHEN I READ IN
MY TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MISS TRACE AND IN OUR
CONDOLENCES, AS IS APPARENT, UM
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANY PAIN MORE
UNBEARABLE THAN THE LOSS OF A
CHILD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT OTHERS
WHO WISH TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
OF A B 1949 HERE IN THE
COMMITTEE HEARING ROOM. MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. MATT BROUGHT
HERE ON BEHALF OF CSKA AND THE
TEAMSTERS AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU OTHERS AND
SUPPORT SAYING NO ONE ELSE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE.
MODERATE IF YOU WOULD, UM QUÊ UP
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF A B 1949.
SURE, THANK YOU. IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OF A BILL 1949, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. AND WE GO TO LINE 1 50,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. REBECA GONZALEZ
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND NOW IT'S A LINE TO 25.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THAT YOU MR
CHAIR, REMEMBERS MITCH STEIGER
WITH CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION, ALSO IN SPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. AND NOW TWO LINE
2 15 GO AHEAD. MR CHAIR MEMBERS
BECAUSE IN BEHALF OF THE CO
SPONSORS FROM RECEIVING SUPPORT
WHEN I THINK THE AUTHOR FOR
THEIR WORK ON THIS ISSUE AND
YOUR COMMENTS WITH TRACY, THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. QUÊ DOWN TO 26.
YES HELLO. THIS IS COST ELENA
FOR THE AMERICAN FEDERATION FOR
STATE, COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL
EMPLOYEES, AND WE LIKE THE VOICE
PERSONAL PORTS FOR ASSEMBLY.
BILL 1949. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OUTLINED TO 24 PLEASE GO AHEAD.
CHRISTIE JOUBERT WITH A
CALIFORNIA WORKING FAMILY
COALITION. WE ARE IN FRANCE
SUPPORT BABY KNIFE, 49. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE
HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN QUÊ. ALRIGHT
UM NEXT NOW TURNED TO OPPOSITION
. I DO NOT SEE, UM, ANY FORMAL
OPPOSITION LISTED, BUT IF YOU'RE
OPPOSED TO A B 1949 IF YOU WOULD
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE, SAYING
NO ONE APPROACHING THE
MICROPHONE. MODERATOR IF YOU
WOULD QUEUE UP THOSE WHO ARE
OPPOSED TO A B 1949 WOULD BE
GRATEFUL. THANK YOU IF YOU ARE
OPPOSED TO A B 1949, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. AND WE HAVE NO ONE QUEUING
UP. ALL RIGHT. LET'S BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SENATOR JONES
. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, MR LOW.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF CONCERNS
HAVE BEEN RAISED BY SOME OF THE
SMALL BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS
THAT KIND OF GIVE ME PAUSE ON
THIS. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY
YOUR WITNESS DID A VERY GOOD
JOB, AND, UH, I THINK WE ALL
APPRECIATE HER. COMMENTS AND
BEING ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH
THIS AND UM THE CONCERNS ARE TWO
THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO
FIND IS ONE THERE IS NOT A
NOTICE REQUIREMENT FOR THE
EMPLOYEE. AND LOOK, I KNOW IN
THESE SMALL BUSINESSES AND IN
MOST SITUATIONS, THE EMPLOYEE'S
GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR
EMPLOYER AND THOSE RELATIONSHIPS
ARE. YOU KNOW, GENERALLY AND FOR
THE MOST PART THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA VERY POSITIVE AND
OPEN DIALOGUE, BUT THE BILL
DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN IT THAT
REQUIRES THE EMPLOYEE TO
COMMUNICATE THE REASON FOR
LEAVING OR BEING GONE. AND IN
THE SECOND CONCERN IS THE FIVE
DAY LIMIT. UM WHICH I THINK I
AGREE WITH IN CONCEPT THAT
THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE AT
ANY POINT IN TIME. UM BUT, YOU
KNOW, MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE SOME
, UM BUMPERS ON IT, YOU KNOW, ON
THE LONG END OF IT. BUT ALSO
DOESN'T REQUIRE, UH
COMMUNICATION FROM THE EMPLOYEE
TO THE EMPLOYER ON WHEN THEY'RE
LEAVING AND HOW LONG THEY'RE
GOING TO BE GONE. UM I WAS
WONDERING IF YOU MIGHT WANT TO
ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS OR.
THERE'S SPECIFICALLY TO GETTING
AN AYE VOTE. SENATOR JONES IS
THAT WOULD TO ANSWERING THE
QUESTION TO HAVE ADDITIONAL
NOTIFICATION FROM THE EMPLOYEE
TO HELP HAVE CLAIRVOYANCE ON A
DEATH IN THE FAMILY TO KNOW WHAT
ACTUALLY HAPPENS. NO NO, MR
LOMAN, ASKING FOR CLAIRVOYANCE
ON THAT. I'M JUST SAYING.
WOULDN'T IT BE REASONABLE IF THE
EMPLOYEE HAS A DEATH IN THE
FAMILY FOR THEM TO CALL AND
NOTIFY THE EMPLOYER THAT THAT
HAS HAPPENED? AND THEY'RE GOING
TO BE GONE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS?
SURE, AS AS STATED IN THE BILL
THAT THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT OF
UP TO 30 DAYS TO ACTUALLY HAVE
PROOF OF THE DEATH SPECIFICALLY
, BUT AS YOU AS YOU KNOW, UH,
SPECIFICALLY WITH DEATH. MANY
TIMES. THESE THINGS ARE
UNANTICIPATED. AND IN FACT,
SIMILARLY, YOUR ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
REPUBLICAN ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
VOTED FOR A STRONGER VERSION OF
THIS OF PAID LEAVE SPECIFICALLY
IN THE ASSEMBLY, SO WE RECOGNIZE
THE IMPORTANCE OF MITIGATING THE
IMPACT OF SMALL BUSINESS WHILE
ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT IN THESE
TIMES WE DO NEED TO HELP
ACCOMMODATE ACCORDINGLY. ALL
RIGHT, THANK YOU. ALREADY OTHER
QUESTIONS, YES. THINNER,
GORGEOUS. I LIKE I LIKE THE IDEA
OF THE BILL. UM MY COLLEAGUE
BROUGHT UP A POINT, AND I WANTED
TO JUST SEEK FURTHER
CLARIFICATION. SO THE BILL SAYS
THAT WITHIN 30 DAYS THAT YOU
HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME
DOCUMENTATION. THERE WAS A
BEREAVEMENT EVENT. BUT GETTING
TO HIS POINT IS AND THE
UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT
YOU KNOW SOMEONE CLOSE HAS
PASSED. SHOULD THERE NOT BE AN
OBLIGATION OF NOTIFICATION BY
THE PRINCIPAL TO THE EMPLOYER.
THAT IS ACTIVATING. THIS
PROTECTION. OR DOES IT DOES IT
HAVE THAT? SPECIFICALLY IT'S THE
YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT NOTIFICATION
ON HELPING TO ENSURE THAT YOU
MITIGATE THE IMPACT TO THE SMALL
BUSINESS OR THE EMPLOYER THAT
CORRECT WELL, I THINK THE IDEA
IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE
WHEN YOU'RE WORKING IN A CLOSE
CORPORATION OR A SMALL BUSINESS
STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THEN
THERE'S A TRAGIC EVENT AND THE
INDIVIDUAL DEPARTS. THAT IN
ORDER FOR THAT, YOU KNOW
PRINCIPLE OF THE OF THE BUSINESS
TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT
WHAT HAS HAPPENED THAT THERE BE
A NATURAL DISCLOSURE THAT THERE
HASN'T BEEN AN EVENT. I'M
SEEKING BEREAVEMENT PROTECTION F
Y. I'M GOING TO BE GONE FOR A
WHILE. I DON'T KNOW. I'M STILL
LEARNING. IT'S A MOMENT OF
TRAUMA. I'M JUST LETTING YOU
KNOW I'M LEAVING BECAUSE THERE
WAS A DEATH OR A TRAGIC EVENT.
DOES THIS BILL INDICATE THAT
THERE SHOULD BE OR THERE. THERE
MUST BE A DISCLOSURE TO THE
PRINCIPLE. WE DON'T EVER HAVE
THAT SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT. UM
SPECIFICALLY WITH WHAT? YOU'RE
WHAT YOU'RE ACKNOWLEDGING OR
ADDRESSING. IF THAT GETS YOUR
SUPPORT ON IT HAPPY TO DO IT
WOULD I GOTTA TELL YOU, I THINK
THERE NEEDS TO BE HIGHER DEGREE
OF HUMANITY IN THE WORKPLACE.
AND I THINK EMPLOYERS BY AND
LARGE WILL BE RECEPTIVE. I THINK
THE CONCERN IS THAT WHEN IT'S SO
ONE SIDED THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS ON
THE DEFENSIVE IN THIS, I THINK
IS A VERY IMPORTANT BILL, BUT TO
EQUALIZE SO THE PRINCIPLE CAN
KNOW WHETHER OR NOT TO CALL IN
OTHER EMPLOYEES, OR TO MAKE
ARRANGEMENTS THAT IT'S ONLY FAIR
THAT THERE IS A BALANCING OUT TO
SOME DEGREE. IF YOU ARE WILLING
TO PUT, YOU KNOW A 24 OR 48
HOUR. NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT
THAT I THINK IS INAPPROPRIATE
BALANCING OUT AND I'D BE HAPPY
TO SUPPORT THIS THE CHALLENGE,
THOUGH. UM, SO I HEAR YOU LOUD
INCLUDE. THE CHALLENGE, THOUGH,
IS DEATH IS OFTEN TIMES AND
ANTICIPATED. UM SO TO ADDRESS
MANY OF THESE CONCERNS, ITS NOT
ONE SIZE FITS ALL SO ONE
CIRCUMSTANCE THAT YOU MIGHT BE
PROVIDING IS NOT SIMILAR TO
ANOTHER CIRCUMSTANCE. UM AND WE
TALKED ABOUT THE ONE SIDED
NATURE OF THIS. THIS IS ABOUT AN
EMPLOYEE TRYING TO GRAPPLE WITH
MANY OF THE ACCOMMODATIONS OF
SIGNIFICANT TRAUMATIC
CIRCUMSTANCE IN THEIR LIVES. SO
I JUST ARGUE AND SUGGEST THAT
IT'S ACTUALLY NOT ONE SIDED.
THIS IS IN FACT, TO HELP ADDRESS
AND ACCOMMODATE FOR THE
ORGANIZATION AS A WHOLE, AND TO
PROVIDE THAT HUMANITY THAT I
KNOW THAT YOU EQUALLY CARE
ABOUT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
NOT TALKING PAST EACH OTHER,
BECAUSE I THINK SO ARE YOU
INTERESTED IN ADDING A COMPONENT
OF DISCLOSURE TO THE PRINCIPLE?
NOT IN THIS COMMITTEE? RIGHT AS
BEFORE. YOU OKAY? THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT? YES, SENATOR CABALLERO.
I WANT TO COMMEND THE AUTHOR
FOR, UM FOR THIS BILL. I THINK
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, HAVING
HAD A VERY, VERY TOUGH YEAR THIS
YEAR. UM NOTICE, I THINK IS
IMPORTANT. BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE
TIME THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO
DEAL WITH THINGS SO UM, I'M
GOING TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA
TO SAY NOTICED AT THE EARLIEST
OPPORTUNITY. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO SHOW UP FOR WORK
TOMORROW, IT'S YOU CAN'T CALL IT
10 O'CLOCK OR TWO O'CLOCK IN THE
MORNING SOMETIMES BECAUSE YOU
DON'T HAVE THE MANAGER'S NUMBER
, THE EMPLOYERS NUMBER BUT I
THINK BEING ABLE TO GET UP IN
THE MORNING AND JUST SAY HEY,
YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M NOT GOING TO
MAKE IT IN? BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT
HAPPENED. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD
IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE. THAT WAY.
PEOPLE DON'T JUST DISAPPEAR AND
YOU'RE GOING. HEY, WHAT
HAPPENED? YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T
KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S UP AS THE
EMPLOYER. BUT I THINK THIS IS A
REALLY IMPORTANT BILL AND I WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
EVERYBODY DESERVES AT LEAST FIVE
DAYS. ALREADY THANK YOU OTHER
CAMP? YES, SENATOR RUSSELL. I
ALSO WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE
AUTHOR FOR RAISING THIS, UM, AS
SENATOR CAVALLERO SAID, UM, I'M
SURE MOST IF NOT EVERYONE HERE
HAS BEEN THROUGH. A DEATH IN THE
FAMILY SOMETIMES VERY CLOSE,
SOMETIMES EXTENDED. UM BUT
BESIDES OR IN ADDITION TO THE
TRAUMA AND THE SADNESS, UM
THERE'S ALSO SOME VERY REAL.
ISSUES ABOUT MAKING ARRANGEMENTS
OF WHICH IS VERY, VERY TIME
CONSUMING. UM SO I AND I ALSO
AGREE THAT GIVING A NOTICE TO
THE EMPLOYER REYES. I DON'T
THINK THAT'S SO COMPLICATED THAT
IT CAN BE DONE BY SOMEONE.
NOTIFYING THE EMPLOYER SO I'LL
BE GLAD TO SUPPORT ALRIGHT.
OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS. BY THE
WAY. THANK YOU, SENATOR MCGUIRE
FOR SUBSIDY FOR SENATOR
WIECKOWSKI. ALRIGHT UM SO YOU
KNOW THE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
IS THERE A MOTION SENATOR
HERZBERG MOVES THE BILL. SEVEN
MERLOT DO YOU CARE CLOSE? I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM
SECRETARY, IF YOU WILL CALL THE
ROLL THE MOTION IS DUE PASS BUT
FIRST BE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON LABOR, PUBLIC
EMPLOYMENT AND RETIREMENT.
HAMBURG I. BURGESS. CABALLERO
CABALLERO, I DURAZO. AYE.
GONZALES. HERTZBERG HERZBERG, I
. JONES JONES, NO LAYERED
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE ICE TURN. I
WIENER YOU HAVE SEVEN NO. ONE
WITH MEMBERS MISSING. ALRIGHT,
BILLS ON CALL NEXT. I UNDERSTAND
YOU'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING
FOR ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING IS
THAT CORRECT? YES, PLEASE. ALL
RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE PHILIP
NUMBER 42 A B 2448. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. MR CHAIRMAN
COLLEAGUES. THIS IS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ASSEMBLY, BUILD
24 40 AND ON BEHALF OF SOME
LIVER ROUTINE AND PRESENTING A
AS VICE CHAIR OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER
LEGISLATIVE CAUCUS. SIMILARLY
KNOWLEDGE IN THE AMENDMENTS TO
BE ACCEPTED IN SENATE LABOR
COMMITTEE. THIS BILL HELPS TO
ADDRESS THE RISE IN ASIAN HATE.
AND. ADDRESS IS MUCH OF THE WORK
THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH
RESPECT TO REQUIRING THE
DEPARTMENT OF FAIR EMPLOYMENT
AND HOUSING TO HELP COME UP WITH
MECHANISMS IN ADDRESSING MANY OF
THESE HATE INCIDENTS IS
SPECIFICALLY IN PERSON TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT IS CANDICE,
CO MANAGING DIRECTOR AT THE A P
I EQUITY ALLIANCE. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
ALREADY, MR CHO. MICROPHONE IS
YOURS. FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS CANDICE SHOW. I AM THE
MANAGING DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND
COUNSEL AT THE API EQUITY
ALLIANCE AND L, A BASED
NONPROFIT AND ONE OF THE CO
FOUNDERS OF STOP ÁP. I HATE I'M
PLEASED TO TESTIFY TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF A B 24 48 BILL,
AUTHORED BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
TANG AND SPONSORED BY STOPPING
ÁP. I HATE TO EXPAND CIVIL
RIGHTS PROTECTIONS AT THE LARGE
BUSINESSES WHERE HATE INCIDENTS
OCCUR. SINCE THE START OF THE
PANDEMIC STOP, ÁP I HATE HAS
RECEIVED MORE THAN 11,000
REPORTS OF HATE INCIDENTS FROM
APES ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
INCLUDING MORE THAN 4300 REPORTS
IN CALIFORNIA ALONE. MORE THAN A
QUARTER OF THESE INCIDENTS TAKE
PLACE AT BUSINESSES SUCH AS A
RESTAURANT, GROCERY STORE OR
RETAIL STORE AND TO GIVE YOU AN
IDEA OF WHAT OUR EXPERIENCES
HAVE BEEN IN OUR COMMUNITY. HERE
ARE A COUPLE OF THEIR STORIES IN
THEIR OWN WORDS AND I APOLOGIZE
FOR THE PROFANITY. IN L. A. I
WAS WAITING IN LINE AT A HOME
IMPROVEMENT STORE. A MAN CUT IN
FRONT OF ME, SO I MENTIONED THAT
THERE'S A LINE AND POINTED TO
THE LINE OF PEOPLE BEHIND ME. HE
BLEW UP AND STARTED VERBALLY
HARASSING ME BY YELLING, STUPID
GO BACK TO THE COUNTRY YOU CAME
FROM. DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH? IN
DAVIS. I WAS SHOPPING AT A STORE
WITH MY MASK ON A WHITE OLDER
MAN CAME UP AND STARTED
SCREAMING AT ME SAYING YOU NEED
TO STAY 10 FT. AWAY FROM ME. YOU
DISGUSTING THAT EATING!
UNFORTUNATELY WE KNOW THAT APES
ARE NOT ALONE AND THAT BLACK
LATIN X WOMEN, LGBT Q. CUSTOMERS
ALL EXPERIENCED DISCRIMINATION
AND HARASSMENT AT BUSINESSES.
AND WE KNOW THAT OUR CURRENT
CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS ARE NOT
ENOUGH. THAT'S WHY I STOPPED. ÁP
I HATE IS PROUD TO PARTNER WITH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TANG ON A B 24
48 A BILL WTH BIPARTISAN AND
COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND NO
OPPOSITION. ALL CALIFORNIANS
SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO A
GROCERY STORE, A PHARMACY OR
ANOTHER BUSINESS WITHOUT FEAR OF
BEING TARGETED FOR THEIR RACE,
GENDER OR OTHER PERSONAL
CHARACTERISTIC. WE HAD STOPPED
ÁP. I HATE ASKED FOR YOUR I VOTE
TO ENSURE THAT IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES ARE NO
PLACE FOR HATE. THANK YOU.
ALRIGHTY OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF A
B 24 48. OTHERS AND SUPPORT HERE
IN THE HEARING ROOM. IF YOU
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE IS ON
BEHALF OF CHINESE FOR
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. MARIKO YOSHIHARA ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
EMPLOYMENT LAWYERS, ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. MARTHA
KARUA, REPRESENTING THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT. ALL
RIGHT, THANK YOU. UM MODERATE IF
YOU WOULD QUEUE UP THOSE IN
SUPPORT ON THE PHONE A B 2448.
THANK YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR A P 2488,
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
PLEASE.
AND OUR FIRST PERSON IS LYING TO
22. PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES. MY
NAME IS CYNTHIA CHAIR. A MONTH
ON BEHALF OF CHINESE TRANSACTION
AND DISCO AND FULL SUPPORT OF
THE BABY. 2448. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU AND. AND NOW THE
LINE OF 2 21, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MY NAME IS ANDREW MANURE AND ON
BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT CENTER IN LOS
ANGELES AND SUPPORT OF A B 24
48. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND
OUTLINE TO 27. BY 27. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN AS YOUR PHONE ON MUTE.
THANK YOU FOR THIS HEARING THIS
MORNING. MY NAME IS SHAQUILLE
SAY IT FROM SOUTH ASIAN NETWORK
IN LOS ANGELES. AND I FULLY
SUPPORT EVERY 24 48. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO
ONE ELSE CONTINUE. ALRIGHT,
LET'S LET'S TURN TO OPPOSITION.
THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO A B 24
48. I SEE NO PRIMARY WITNESSES.
BUT IF YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION IF
YOU APPROACH THE MICROPHONE HERE
IN THE HEARING ROOM, SEEING NO
ONE APPROACHED THE MICROPHONE
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD QUEUE UP
THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED A B 24 48.
WE WOULD BE GRATEFUL. THANK YOU.
IF YOU ARE OPPOSED TO A B 2448
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
AND WE HAVE NO ONE QUEUING UP.
ALRIGHT LET'S BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS SEEING NO QUESTIONS. ALL
RIGHT. SENATOR STERN MOVES THE
BILL. ALRIGHT AH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S LOW DO YOU CARE
TO CHOOSE? DO YOU CHOOSE TO
CLOSE FOR ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING
RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR AGO.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MADAM
SECRETARY. IF YOU WOULD CALL THE
ROLL, PLEASE. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS. BUT FIRST WE RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON LABOR,
PUBLIC APPOINTMENT AND
RETIREMENT. HAMBURG HAMBURG I
BORE GIS WERE JUST I CAFIERO. TO
RUSSELL. AYE. GONZALES. PORTS
BURG HERZBERG, I JONES JONES I,
LAIRD MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE I STERN
STERN. I WIENER YOU HAVE. 8 TO 0
WITH MEMBERS MISSING. ALRIGHT,
PUT IT BACK ON CALL. OKAY? UM
ONE MOMENT. ALRIGHT. ONE BILL
LEFT. UM PHYLUM NUMBER 40 A B 14
10 BY SOMEBODY MEMBER RODRIGUEZ.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RODRIGUEZ CAN
HEAR ME WOULD BE GOOD FOR HIM
TO, UM. IF YOU HAD RETURNED. UM,
WE HAVE SOME AFTER THAT. THAT'S
THE LAST BILL. THEN WE'RE GOING
TO CALL THE ROLL. UM I KNOW THAT
SENATOR WEINER IS CHEERING
HOUSING COMMITTEE. I HAVE TO GO
TO HOUSING COMMITTEE SO EXCHANGE
HOSTAGES. AND THEN, UH, WE WILL
, UM, OPEN THE ROLE FOR A FINAL
TIME. WOMEN WHO IS.
MR CHAIR. I WOULD BE WILLING TO
START BY MOVING THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. WELL, THANK YOU,
SENATOR LAIRD. THAT'S A VERY
HELPFUL SUGGESTIONS. SO ALL
RIGHT, SO SENATOR LAIRD HAS
MOVED THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
MADAM SECRETARY, IF YOU WOULD
CALL THE ROLE YOU REMEMBER
BERGHEIM GORGEOUS, GORGEOUS, I
CABALLERO. SO I GONZALES.
HERTZBERG, HERZBERG, I. JONES.
JOHN'S I, LAIRD MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE
I STERN I WIENER YOU HAVE 80
WITH MEMBERS MISSING. PUT THAT
ON CALL. ALRIGHT NEXT CENTER
LAIRD SENATOR, LET'S SEE. WE
HAVE TO GO IN ORDER. YES, WELL,
YES. LET'S GO IN ORDER. GO AHEAD
ONE. YES WE NEED A MOTION ON
ITEM NUMBER ONE A B 2559 WHO
MOVED IT. SENATOR HERZBERG MOVES
ITEM NUMBER ONE TO JUST SO 59 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WARD. MADAM
SECRETARY. IF YOU CALL THE ROLL
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED. HAMBURG HAMBURG I BORE
GIS. GORGEOUS, NO CAP, A HERO.
GRASSO. YOU'RE A SO I. GONZALES.
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG, I JONES.
JOHN'S NO LAIRD MCGUIRE. REQUIRE
I STERN I WIENER. YOU HAVE 6 TO
2 WITH MEMBERS MISSING BACK ON
CALL. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS ITEM
NUMBER 2 24 06 MOVED BY SENATOR
LAIRD. MADAM SECRETARY. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS TO
PASS AS AMENDED. HAMBURG HAMBURG
GORGEOUS CABALLERO SO AYE.
GONZALES. HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG
I, JONES JONES, I LAIRD ACQUIRE. THE CHOIR. I STERN STERN. I
WIENER YOU HAVE 8 TO 0 WITH
MEMBERS MISSING. ALRIGHT WE'LL
PUT THAT BACK ON CALL. I SEE
SOME OF THE MEMBER RODRIGUEZ HAS
APPEARED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM FILING NUMBER 40, WHICH IS
OUR LAST BILL OF THE DAY A B 14
10. ALRIGHT, SOMEBODY MEMBER
RODRIGUEZ. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
ALTHOUGH YES, IT'S ON NOW.
THANKS YEAH, I'M HERE TO PRESENT
A B 14 10. THIS BILL IS THE
RESULT OF CONVERSATION OF HETERO
CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THE
DISCONNECT BETWEEN HOMEOWNER
RIGHTS AND SOME HOMEOWNER
ASSOCIATIONS. FIRST I'D LIKE TO
THANK THE COMMUNITY STAFF FOR
THE WORK AND OFFERING LANGUAGE
TO ADDRESS THE OPPONENTS
CONCERNS AND ACCEPT THOSE
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. UNDERSTAND
NOW THERE IS SOME NEW OPPOSITION
AND AMENDMENTS THAT WERE
SUBMITTED TO MY OFFICE JUST
YESTERDAY AND THERE'S ALWAYS I
WILL COMMIT TO CONTINUE WORKING
TO ADDRESS ANY OUTSTANDING
ISSUES. A B 14 10 6 TO PROTECT
HOMEOWNERS BY FIRST ENSURING
THOSE IN CHARGE OF A CHOICE HAVE
KNOWLEDGE OF FIDUCIARY ETHICS
AND HARASSMENT LAWS. NEXT MY
BILL ADDRESSES SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENED DURING THE PANDEMIC AND
NATURAL DISASTERS. HOME OWNERS
IN MY DISTRICT AND THROUGHOUT
THE STATE HAVE BEEN CHARGED FOR
MINOR VIOLATIONS AND WHEN THEY
HAVE BEEN QUARANTINED OR
EVACUATE DURING STATES OF
EMERGENCY. THIS BILL TO CLARIFY
THAT A CHOICE CANNOT FIND PEOPLE
WHO ARE UNABLE TO ADDRESS A
VIOLATION SUCH AS PULLING WAGES
DURING A DECLARED EMERGENCY THAT
THEY ARE REASONABLY NOT ABLE TO
CORRECT. THE VIOLATION. THE
BUILD. ALSO PACIFY THAT A
HOMEOWNER MAY SHARE THEIR HOME
WITH THEIR PARTNER OR ANOTHER
PERSON WITHOUT FEAR OF
PUNISHMENT FROM AN H O A
PROHIBIT IN A WAY FROM FINDING A
HOME OWNER FOR ENGAGING IN
CRITICAL DISCUSSIONS OF AN H O A
ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND REQUIRING A
CHOICE TO DATE AND TIMESTAMP
PHYSICAL EVIDENCE USED TO
ENFORCE ASSOCIATION RULES. THIS
BILL IS A COMMON SENSE MEASURES
TO UPHOLD HOMEOWNER RIGHTS AND
PROTECT ALL PARTIES FROM HARM. I
HAVE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE
OPPOSITION, UNDER CONCERNS IN
BOTH HOUSES HAVE TAKEN NUMEROUS
AMENDMENTS AS A RESPONSE TO
THOSE CONCERNS. AND WITH ME
TODAY I HAVE IN SUPPORT. MR RON
. THEY'RE ALL SKI WHO IS AN H O
A BOARD MEMBER. IN PATIENTS,
RIGHT? HE HAS BEEN PATIENTLY
WAITING BEFORE MR WE GET TO MR
ZAFIROVSKI ITEM. UH SECTION
FOUR. IS THAT REMAINING OR BEING
DELETED? THAT SECTION I BELIEVE
IS BEING DONE. THE CODE OF
CONDUCT? YES BEING DELETED.
YEAH. JUST TO JUST TO BE SURE. I
THINK WE'RE WAITING FOR YOUR
SUGGESTIONS ON THE DETERMINATION
OF THAT. IF THAT IS SOMETHING
YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE REMOVED.
ALL RIGHT. AH THIS THIS BILL IS
MOVING ON. SO I RATHER THAN HAVE
THAT CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. I
ASSUME YOU'LL COMMIT TO CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH US. I SEE CHICKEN
THE LOT SO FAR, SO WHATEVER ELSE
I CAN DO TO HELP YOU GET THIS AT
A BETTER SPOT WITH EVERYONE, ALL
RIGHT? MR CIROVSKI PLEASURES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS RON
SWAROVSKI AND I OWN TWO HOMES
AND AN OCEANSIDE H WAY CALLED
ARROWOOD FOR THE PAST 23 YEARS
I'VE RENTED TO MILITARY WHO ARE
STATIONED AT CAMP PENDLETON. NOW
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS
TELLING ME THAT THEY CANNOT LIVE
TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY DO NOT
CONSTITUTE. A NARROW DEFINITION
OF FAMILY, EVEN THOUGH THEY
COLLECTIVELY RENT THE HOUSE OR
IN ONE MASTER LEASE, AND THEY
PAY THEIR RENT TOGETHER. THESE
ARE ACTIVE DUTY MARINES, NAVY
AND VETERANS WHO ARE HONORABLY
SERVING THEIR COUNTRY. THEY'RE
GREAT RENTERS AND NEIGHBORS WHO
CAUSED NO ISSUES. EVEN THOUGH I
AM NOW ON THE BOARD OF
DIRECTORS, I AM BEING TOLD TO
KICK THEM OUT. I'M NOT THE ONLY
ONE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO RENTS
OUT MY HOUSE TO A NONTRADITIONAL
FAMILY HOUSING AND MORE AND MORE
PLACES IS SIMPLY UNAFFORDABLE
AND SHARING A HOUSE IS AN EASY
SOLUTION OF FRIEND AND ANOTHER
OCEANSIDE EACH WAY, LOST HER
HOME LAST MONTH BECAUSE SHE WAS
RUNNING OUT ROOMS. AND IS NOW
COUCHSURFING. A B 14 10 IS MUCH
NEEDED. EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A
SHORTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
IN CALIFORNIA, SOME H UA'S NEAR
MILITARY BASES OR EVEN DENYING
HOUSING TO THOSE MEN AND WOMEN
WHO ARE HONORABLY SERVING OUR
COUNTRY UNLESS THEY ARE RELATED.
BY MARRIAGE OR BLOOD. IT'S
APPALLING. SOME OPPOSE 14 10
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT
HOMEOWNERS TO POST TO AN
ASSOCIATION'S WEBSITE AND THEY
DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP CONTROL.
THIS GOES AGAINST THE FIRST
AMENDMENT, WHICH GUARANTEES
FREEDOM OF SPEECH. IT'S LONG
OVERDUE TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO
EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS UNDER THE
LAW TO FREELY COMMUNICATE WITH
ONE ANOTHER WITH RESPECT TO
COMMON INTEREST DEVELOPMENT
LIVING A B 14 10 IS A SMALL BUT
DIFFERENT BUT CRITICAL STEP
NEEDED TOWARDS ADDRESSING THE
HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS
PROBLEMS WITH SOARING INFLATION
ON FOOD, GAS, TRANSPORTATION AND
EVERYTHING ELSE. ANY DELAY OF
THIS BILL WOULD BE A DELAY IN
HELPING COUNTLESS CALIFORNIANS
WHO NEED HELP NOW. BECAUSE OF
THE HEIGHTENED SENSITIVITY TO
RESTRICTIONS ON RENTALS. I
BELIEVE OPPOSING 14 10 WOULD BE
COUNTER TO THE LEGISLATURE'S
RECENT WORK ON ADDRESSING THE
HOUSING CRISIS. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR SUPPORTING THIS BILL.
THANK YOU, SIR. OTHERS WHO ARE
IN SUPPORT OF A B 14 10 IF YOU
WOULD APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.
ALRIGHT SAYING NO. ONE
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE.
LET'S TURN TO THE PHONE LINES.
MODERATOR, PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE
IN SUPPORT OF A B 14 10. IF YOU
IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF A B 14
10, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS
TIME. 10 1 MOMENT, PLEASE.
AND IN 1 51. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
HEATHER ATKINSON. WOODLAND HILLS
AVAILABLE IN HOMEOWNER.
SUPPORTING THE 41410 ALL RIGHT.
NEXT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO ONE
ELSE IN. Q OKAY, UH, THOSE WHO
ARE OPPOSED TO A B 14 10. IF
YOU'RE OPPOSED A BA 14 10 IF YOU
WOULD APPROACH THE MICROPHONE
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE. I HAVE NO
PRIMARY WITNESSES LISTENING
OPPOSITION, BUT I SEE MR BROWN
APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE FLOOR
IS YOURS. MR CHAIR. MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR THE TIME THIS AFTERNOON
HERE TODAY WITH THE COMMUNITY
ASSOCIATIONS INSTITUTE,
CALIFORNIA LEGISLATIVE ACTION
COMMITTEE. IF THE BILL WAS ONLY
SECTION THREE. DEALING WITH THE
CLARIFICATION ONRENTERS. I
WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. THERE
ARE SIX SECTIONS TO THE BILL,
AND IT'S REALLY THOSE OTHER
SECTIONS THAT BRING US TODAY IN
OPPOSITION. I DO WANT TO
RECOGNIZE THE WORK. OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THE CONSULTANTS.
YOU LOOK AT THE SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF AMENDMENTS THAT ARE
BEING TAKEN TO THIS BILL HAS
BEEN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT
PUT INTO IT. THE ISSUES DEALING
WITH THE FREE SPEECH. HAVE BEEN
ADDRESSED AND WE THINK ARE TAKEN
CARE OF ADEQUATELY. THE ISSUE OF
THE CODE OF CONDUCT. FRANKLY, WE
THINK IS A MESS. UM, IT
CURRENTLY IN THE BILL. IT MAKES
MISSTATEMENTS OF LAW IT PUTS
PERSONAL LIABILITY ON BOARD
MEMBERS. THAT IS NOT ACCURATE.
THE AMENDMENTS GO A LONG WAY TO
CLEAN IT UP, BUT WE STILL THINK
THAT THAT SECTION IS COMPLETELY
UNNECESSARY. IT APPLIES TO BOARD
MEMBERS. AND EMPLOYEES. THE
EMPLOYEES OF MOST ASSOCIATIONS
AREN'T MANAGERS. THEIR
MAINTENANCE WORKERS THERE,
JANITORS AND SO WE'RE GONNA ASK
A MAINTENANCE WORKER TO HAVE TO
SIGN A CODE OF CONDUCT. THAT
SAYS THAT HE OR SHE WILL ENSURE
THAT THERE IS FAIR AND OPEN
ELECTIONS. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE
TO DO WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL'S JOB
OR RESPONSIBILITIES? WE SEE NO
LINK THERE OTHER THAN JUST MAYBE
CREATING CONFUSION OR JUST
CREATING MORE PAPERWORK THAT
COULD ULTIMATELY BE USED
SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. SOME OF
THESE STATEMENTS AREN'T EVEN
ACCURATE FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS
THAT WOULD BE SIGNING THIS. WE
HAVE A HARD ENOUGH TIME TODAY.
FINDING BOARD MEMBERS AND
ASSOCIATIONS. THESE ARE
VOLUNTEERS STANDING UP TO SERVE
THIS AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE
ASKED TO SIGN AND SELF ATTEST TO
A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT SIMPLY IN
SOME WAYS. IS INACCURATE. SO WE
DO BELIEVE IS MR RODRIGUEZ
MENTIONED THAT THAT SECTION
SIMPLY NEEDS TO BE DELETED FROM
THE BILL. THERE'S SOME OTHER
TECHNICAL ISSUES DEALING WITH
THE METADATA THAT WE'VE BEEN
TALKING WITH THE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S STAFF ON THAT.
WE THINK THAT WE CAN RESOLVE AND
WORK THROUGH AND BUT IT'S FOR
THESE REASONS THAT I STATE TODAY
AND OTHER REASONS THAT WE'VE
BEEN DISCUSSING. AND WE DIDN'T
ASK FOR A NO VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. OTHERS IN OPPOSITION
TO A B 14 10. HI MARJORIE MURRAY
CENTER FOR CALIFORNIA HOMEOWNER
ASSOCIATION LAW. GOOD AFTERNOON
, SENATOR AMBERG AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. IT'S NOT OFTEN
THAT LOUIS BROWN AND I FIND
OURSELVES ON THE SAME SIDE OF
THE PAGE. HOWEVER WE THINK THAT
THERE ARE SOME VERY SERIOUS
DEFECTS IN THE BILL THAT WE
BELIEVE REALLY SHOULD LEAD TO A
NO VOTE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
WORK DONE ON THIS BILL SINCE IT
WAS INTRODUCED. I THINK IT WAS
EXTREMELY WELL INTENTIONED. BUT
IT WENT OFF THE RAILS AT SOME
POINT. THE ISSUE OF FREE SPEECH
HAS BEEN DEALT WITH AND FOR THAT
WE THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
ACCEPTING FOR BASICALLY DELETING
THAT ORIGINALLY, THE BILL SAID
THAT THE BOARD WOULD HAVE
CONTROL OVER HOMEOWNER POSTINGS
ON EVERYTHING FROM THE
ASSOCIATIONS ON WEBSITE TO EVERY
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM THAT THE
ASSOCIATION DIDN'T OAN. LIKE
TWITTER AND FACEBOOK, AND SO ON.
THAT IS ALL BEEN TAKEN OUT MUCH
TO OUR RELIEF. HOWEVER THE CODE
OF CONDUCT IS UNBELIEVABLY
WRONGHEADED. WHAT IT DOES
BASICALLY IS TO SHIFT LEGAL
LIABILITY FROM THE ASSOCIATE,
AND IT'S ACTUALLY I MEAN, WE'LL
LEAVE THIS TO THE COMMITTEE TO
DISCUSS BUT IT'S PROBABLY
ILLEGAL IMPOSSIBILITY TO SHIFT
LEGAL LIABILITY FROM THE
ASSOCIATION TO INDIVIDUAL BOARD
MEMBERS. IF THERE'S SOME
VIOLATION OF FAIR HOUSING LAW OR
SOME ISSUE WITH FRAUD AND
EMBEZZLEMENT AND TRY TO PIN THAT
ON TO AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD
DIRECTOR. THE LIABILITY BELONGS
WITH THE ASSOCIATION, NOT AN
INDIVIDUAL DIRECTOR. AND AS
LOUIS BROWN HAS JUST SAID, IF
YOU WE HAVE SO MUCH DIFFICULTY
FINDING INDIVIDUALS TO RUN FOR
BOARD SEATS NOW AND WHAT THIS
BILL DOES IS TO SAY. YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO ATTEST TO THE
FACT THAT YOU ARE, YOU'RE
WILLING OR IT'S GOING TO BE
FORCED ON YOU TO ASSUME LEGAL
LIABILITY ON A PERSONAL LEVEL
AND GET OUT YOUR CHECKBOOK. TO
PAY ATTORNEY'S FEES IF SOMEHOW
YOU ARE FOUND CULPABLE. SO. THIS
THIS WHOLE SECTION NEEDS TO BE
EXCISED. AND I'M ACTUALLY NOT
CLEAR SENATOR AMBERG. ABOUT WHAT
THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS,
THIS AMENDMENT WAS POSED TO US.
I THINK DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY
THAT THAT WHOLE SECTION BE TAKEN
OUT, AND I KNOW YOU JUST ASKED
THE AUTHOR IF IT'S GOING TO BE
REMOVED, WHERE ACTUALLY UNCLEAR
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING
TO BE REMOVED. THIS COMMITTEE IS
THIS BILL'S LAST STOP. SO IF
THAT WERE TAKEN OUT, IT MIGHT
MOVE US TO A NEUTRAL POSITION.
IF IT STAYS IN, WE WILL CONTINUE
TO OPPOSE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
MAKE ANY SENSE. QUESTIONS WE
WOULD BE GLAD TO RESPOND TO
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I
WILL. IF I COULD JUST TAKE 30
MORE SECONDS. I WILL MENTION
THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH
HOMEOWNERS FROM 12 ASSOCIATIONS
IN SANTA ANA, WHO ARE DEALING
WITH THIS KIND OF ISSUE RIGHT
NOW, FREEDOM OF SPEECH ISSUES
AND ALSO ISSUES OF GETTING SUED
BY THEIR OWN ASSOCIATION, THEIR
BOARD DIRECTORS WHO ARE TRYING
TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND
THEY'RE TRYING TO THE
ASSOCIATION AND THE PROPERTY
MANAGER TRYING TO FORCE THEM OFF
THE BOARD BY HOLDING THEM INTO
THIS KIND OF KANGAROO COURT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, MR MURRAY. THINKS
I'VE HEARD OF SANTANA. OKAY UM
ALL RIGHT, SO LET LET ME COME
BACK TO YOU ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
RODRIGUEZ. THE QUESTIONS HAVE
IMPOSED NOW. A COUPLE OF TIMES.
IS THAT RIGHT? THIS IS NOT GOING
TO APPROPRIATIONS IS THAT
CORRECT? GOING TO THE FLOOR.
FLORIDA ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. OKAY
SO WITH THAT IF I CAN JUST KIND
OF JUST PIGGYBACK WHEN THEY'RE
TALKING ABOUT SO FOR ME THE
INTENDED TO SIMPLY ENSURE THAT
BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF ARE
EDUCATED ABOUT THEIR LEGAL
OBLIGATIONS, BECOMING A BOARD
MEMBER AND HAVING SOME OVERSIGHT
JURISDICTION RIGHT THERE. IT'S
JUST GIVING SOME CLARITY WHAT
THIS JOB ENTITLES BECAUSE IT'S
TOUGH, RIGHT AND YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT'S HARD TO GET INDIVIDUALS TO
JUMP ON AND BE ON THESE BOARDS
AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THOSE
COMMUNITIES. AND WHY NOT JUST
GIVE A LITTLE BIT EDUCATIONAL
BUT KNOWLEDGE OF DOING THIS JOB
WHILE THEY'RE DOING IT AND
HOPEFULLY PREVENT SOME LAWSUITS
BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU. I'M SURE
THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL LAWSUITS OF
H O S BECAUSE SOME OF THEM
PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THE RULES
AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND THERE'S
NO ETHICS. THERE'S NO TRAINING
REALLY OTHER THAN HERE'S THIS
BOARD, JUMP ON IT AND DO WHAT'S
BEST. BUT YET THEY HAVE NO
GUIDELINES PERIMETERS. SO THIS
IS WHAT THIS BILL IS ALL ABOUT.
JUST TRYING TO GIVE THEM SOME
EDUCATION AND HOPEFULLY PREVENT
THEM FROM BEING SUED. THAT'S THE
POINT. AND REALLY, WE TALKED
ABOUT. AND THE CODE OF CONDUCT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE H O
S ON THEIR OWN WHAT THEY DEVELOP
AND WHAT THEY SEE IS THE BEST
FIT RIGHT? SO THERE IS
FLEXIBILITY ON MY END TO OFFER
THOSE HOPEFULLY, AMENDMENTS AND
CONCERNS ADDRESSING THAT, AS IT
MOVES FORWARD. ALRIGHT BUT BACK
TO SECTION FOUR. YES. ALRIGHT
I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU ON
IT. I KNOW IT'S THIS IS THE LAST
EPISODE OF SPEAK, BUT WHATEVER I
CAN DO TO HELP GET THIS BUILDING
BETTER PLACE FOR FOLKS. ARE MORE
THAN WILLING TO DO WHAT I CAN TO
REMOVE THAT ULTRA WHATEVER IT IS
TO DO, UM, PRIOR TO GETTING TO
THE NEXT LEVEL, OKAY, WELL, THE
NEXT LEVEL IS THE FLOOR. SO
YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH US AS TO SOME OF
THE CHALLENGES THAT STILL EXISTS
IN THE BILL. CORRECT AMENDED, UM
PRIOR TO ARRIVING ON THE FLOOR
BEING PRESENTED ON THE FLOOR
CORRECT? ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT. UM.
ALRIGHT QUESTIONS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. YES SENATOR STERN.
THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND TO YOUR LEAD WITNESSES
POINT INTO YOUR YOUR WELL MADE
pBRINGING THIS FORWARD IN DEALING
WITH THE EMERGENCY SCENARIOS AND
SITUATIONS AND APPALLING
TREATMENT OF OUR ACTIVE MEN AND
WOMEN IN UNIFORM, ETCETERA. A
NO. WE'VE GOT A TRUNCATED TIME
PERIOD, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A
TIMING QUESTION FOR HOW WE FIX.
SECTION FOUR OR OR HOW YOU WE
SORT OF MEET YOUR GOALS, WHICH
SOUNDS LIKE TO LIMIT THE LIMIT
LIABILITY BUT NOT INCUR
ADDITIONAL LAWSUITS, WHEREAS YOU
KNOW, MY READ OF SECTION A THREE
IS. IT SAYS THE STAFF COULD
INCUR LIABILITY IF THEY ENGAGE
IN AH, HARASSMENT DISCRIMINATION
RETALIATION. SO I'M WONDERING
WHETHER WE IT'S JUST SIMPLER TO
EXCISE SECTION FOUR AND THEN
WORK ON THAT CODE OF CONDUCT
ISSUE AS WE GO FORWARD, THAT
WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE ME A LOT
MORE COMFORTABLE WITH
LEGISLATION. UM BUT IF THEY'RE
YOU KNOW, IN LIEU OF THAT, IF
THAT'S NOT, UM, THE WORLD, YOU
KNOW, THE WILL THE AUTHOR OR THE
CHAIR? MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER
WAY TO ENSURE THAT IT DOESN'T
IMPOSE SOME NEW LIABILITY, SAY
ON THE MAINTENANCE STAFF, OR,
YOU KNOW, JANITORIAL. I MEAN, I
WORRY MORE ABOUT THE MANAGERS.
FRANKLY IF THEY'RE DOING A GOOD
JOB, RIGHT AND MY SENSE IS
THEY'RE NOT OFTEN. THEY'RE NOT
EVEN NECESSARILY AN EMPLOYEE OF
AN ASSOCIATION. SO UM, FOR WHAT
IT'S WORTH, I THINK EXERCISING
FOR NOW AND THEN WORKING THROUGH
THAT CODE OF CONDUCT ISSUE GOING
FORWARD COULD BE HAPPY TO WORK
ON THAT. UM THROUGH A SEPARATE
MEASURE, BUT THAT'S MY
OUTSTANDING CONCERN IS I DON'T
KNOW HOW TO CLEAN THIS UP
QUICKLY RIGHT NOW, LIKE I CAN'T
QUITE SEE THE PATH FOR I
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S DONE
DONE SOME WORK, BUT IT STILL
SEEMS TO LEAVE. THAT QUESTION OF
COULD INCUR LIABILITY IF CERTAIN
ISSUES OR. CERTAIN CONDUCT IS
ENGAGING. WELL, I'M WILLING TO
WORK WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF STAFF
ON HOW WE CAN GET IN A BETTER
PLACE REALLY, AT THE END OF THE
DAY. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S JUST GIVE
THESE INDIVIDUALS A LITTLE BIT
EDUCATION AND TRAINING AS THEY
ASSUME THE POSITION DRAG. AND
PREVENT ANY LAWSUITS BECAUSE I
CAN FREE PRODUCT AS THE
OPPOSITION HAS THERE BEEN ANY
LAWSUITS WITH HORUS? MAYBE
REGARDING SOME OF THESE
RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THESE
BOARD MEMBERS TAKE AND NOT
KNOWING OTHER THAN JUST JUMPING
ON BOARD BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS
GOOD, BUT THEN AGAIN, THERE'S NO
EDUCATION TRAINING FROM WHAT'S
INVOLVED IN BEING HOH BOARD
MEMBER. OVERSEEN WHAT THEY DO,
AND THEN THERE'S ISSUES THAT
COME ABOUT WITH LAWSUITS. SO
THIS IS JUST MORE GIVING THEM
EDUCATION ONCE AGAIN IN TRAINING
AND KNOWLEDGE THAT HOPEFULLY
WILL PREVENT ANY LAWSUITS
BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE'S BEEN
MANY I WE, WE, UH THEN FOUND IT
TO BE HERE AND SAY, OH, LOOK,
WE'VE NEVER GOT SUED. IT'S LIKE,
COME ON, I THINK JUST BECAUSE
HOW THINGS ARE THERE HAS BEEN
SOME CASES THAT HAPPEN. BUT ONCE
AGAIN, I'M OPEN TO WORK WITH THE
CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE ON
GETTING IN A BETTER PLACE AND
HOPEFULLY GET EVERYBODY AS
YOU'VE SEEN. I'VE TAKEN A LOT OF
AMENDMENTS FROM DAY ONE. FROM
THE DAY WAS INTRODUCED UP UNTIL
NOW. YES YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.
SOME OF THEM RODRIGUEZ, ALTHOUGH
THERE DOES SEEM TO BE SOME
DISQUIET TUDE WITH RESPECT TO
SECTION FOUR, UM, THERE ARE
SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS. WE
HAVE ONE MORE HEARING NEXT WEEK
, WHICH WILL BE A MEGA HEARING.
AND THEN YOUR MATTER COULD GO TO
THE FLOOR. SO UM I WILL DEFER TO
YOUR JUDGMENT AS TO WHETHER YOU
WOULD PREFER TO JUST PUT THIS
OVER. YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THE
PRESENTATION FOR ONE WEEK TO
WORK ON TO WORK ON AMENDMENTS.
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. LET'S GET
THAT. ALRIGHT. I SEE HEADS HEADS
THAT ARE SHAKING. BECAUSE WE
WERE ONLY GOING TO GO 12 HOURS
OR SO NEXT WEEK. SO WHAT? I WANT
TO ADD TO IT 13 HOURS, RIGHT?
OKAY WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S
THAT'S THE SENSE OF THE SENSE OF
THE COMMITTEE. MR SO YES,
SENATOR LAIRD AGREE TOTALLY WITH
THE SENSE OF THE COMMITTEE WHAT
I WAS GOING TO SAY AND MAYBE TO
HELP THE CHAIR. IS I DID A
NUMBER OF BILLS ON THIS SUBJECT
WHEN I WAS IN THE ASSEMBLY. OKAY
UM AND MY DISQUIET TO THIS, AS
YOU SAY, IT'S JUST THIS OR THIS
APPLIES TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
THIS IS A BIG DEAL. AND SO IT
SEEMS TO ME. I DID THAT BILL
THAT REQUIRES OF FINANCIAL
DISCLOSURE. AND EVERY ONE OF
THESE EVERY YEAR THERE WAS VERY
CONTROVERSIAL THE TIME AND NOW
EVERYBODY IS VERY GRATEFUL FOR
AH, AND SO THE THING IS I JUST
REALLY HOPE YOU WILL TAKE THIS
SERIOUSLY, AND I REALLY HOPE THE
CHAIR WILL NOT AGREE UNTIL HE
KNOWS THAT THESE ISSUES ARE
ACTUALLY RESOLVED. SO WHEN IT
COMES TO US IN A WEEK, THE ONLY
REASON IT WON'T GO FROM 10 TO
MIDNIGHT TO MIDNIGHT IS THAT THE
CHAIR WILL HAVE JUST HAD THIS
COOKED AND IT WILL BE AN UP OR
DOWN VOTE ON WHAT IS COOKED AND
SO IT REALLY MEANS YOU'VE GOT TO
WORK THIS OUT IN A SHORT AMOUNT
OF MY HEART. THANK YOU FOR THAT
ADMONISHMENT CENTER LARD. THAT'S
NO ADMONISHMENT. IT'S JUST IF
WE'RE ATTENDED 12, AND IT'S
GOING TO TWO A.M. PEOPLE SAY,
WHY DIDN'T YOU PREVENT IT? YOU
GET A DINNER SO ALL RIGHT? NO, I
AND I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE
SENSITIVE ISSUES. I'VE BEEN A
FEDERAL CRIMINAL PROSECUTOR. I
SPENT ALMOST A YEAR AND
AFGHANISTAN WITH THE AFGHAN ARMY
. IT WAS ON THE DEMILITARIZED
ZONE IN KOREA AND THE TIME I
MOST FEARED FOR MY LIFE IS WHEN
I REPRESENTED A HOMEOWNERS
ASSOCIATION. SO, UM ALL RIGHT.
SO I THINK THAT THAT IS WHAT
WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH YOUR
CONCURRENCE. SO THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND THAT
CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION ON
ALL THE BILLS, ALTHOUGH WE'VE
GOT QUITE A NUMBER OF VOTES, SO
WHAT I PROPOSE TO DO IS WE WILL
TAKE THIS UP AGAIN NEXT WEEK. I
PROPOSE THAT WE GO THROUGH THE
ROLL ONE TIME, THEN WE RECESS
FOR SOME BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME,
SO THAT SENATOR WEINER AND I CAN
SWITCH PLACES AND THEN WE'LL BE
DONE. ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GO
THROUGH THE ROLE. WE'RE NOT
GOING TO CALL THE ROLE. SENATOR
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RODRIGUEZ SO
ALRIGHT ON YOUR BILL, AT LEAST
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
OKAY. MADAM SECRETARY. LET'S GO
BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE.
HERE WE GO ALL THE WAY TO NUMBER
THREE SHARE. I WOULD MOVE NUMBER
THREE. ALL RIGHT, SENATOR LAIRD
MOVES FILE HIM NUMBER THREE,
WHICH IS A B 23 15. THE MOTION
IS DUE PAST BUT FIRST WE RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. HAMBURG I
BORDERLESS. GORGEOUS. NO
CABALLERO CABALLERO. DURAZO H
NZALEZ. GONZALEZ I HERZBERG
HERZBERG. I JONES JONES? NO
LAIRD MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE I STERN
STERN, I WIENER YOU HAVE. IT'S
TOO WITH ONE MEMBER MISSING.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL PUT THAT BACK ON
CALL. I WOULD MOVE. ITEM NUMBER
FOUR A. B 2089. SO MOVE, MADAM
SECRETARY. IF YOU CALL THE ROLL
, THE MOTION IS DUE PASS BUT
FIRST BE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH HAMBURG.
HAMBURG. I BORE GIS. OR JUST I
CABALLERO CABALLERO, I RUSSELL.
SO I GONZALES GONZALEZ. I
HARTSBURG HERTZBERG, I JONES.
JONES. I LEERED MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE
I STERN. STERN I WIENER. YOU
HAVE 10 TO 0 WITH ONE MEMBER
MISSING. ALRIGHT I WOULD NOT
CALL NUMBER FIVE A B 26 27 MADAM
SECRETARY. IF YOU CALL THE ROLL
OH, HERE WE GO. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASSES AMENDED BUT FIRST
AMEND AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HAMBURG. HAMBURG. I BURGESS
GORGEOUS. NO, CABALLERO.
CABALLERO, I DURAZO. SO I
GONZALES COMES, ALWAYS I
HERTZBERG HERTZBERG, I JONES.
SOUNDS NO LAYERED MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE I STERN STIR AND I
WIENER. WIENER I YOU HAVE 9 TO
2. WITH EVERYONE HERE.
CONGRATULATIONS THAT BILL IS
OUT. YOU WANT SIX? NUMBER SIX,
PLEASE, I WOULD MOVE ITEM NUMBER
SIX A. B 9 72. FILE ITEM NUMBER
6 89 72. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
HAMBURG GORGEOUS. WE'RE JUST I
GOT A 00 DRAW, SO I GONZALES
GONZALEZ. I HERTZBERG HERTZBERG
, I, JONES JONES? NO LAIRD
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE ICE TURN. STERN
I WIENER WIENER, I YOU HAVE 10
TO 1 PILLS OUT. WE DID ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO
LIFT THE CALL FOR ADAM NUMBER 70
HAVE LEFT THE CALL. HAMBURG
GORGEOUS. GORGEOUS SNOW,
HERTZBERG HERTZBERG, I JONES.
JONES? NO, MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE I,
YOU HAVE 9 TO 2 PILLS OUT, I
WOULD MOVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT A B
16 96. THE MOTION IS DUE PAST
BUT FIRST BE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES.
HAMBURG GORGEOUS GORGEOUS SNOW
CABALLERO. D!I DURAZO. H
NZALES. GONZALEZ. I HERTZBERG
HERTZBERG, I JONES. JONES. I
LEERED. LAYERED. I AM MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE ICE STERN STERN, I
WIENER WIENER? AYE. YOU HAVE 10
TO 1. BILLS OUT. VITAMIN AND YOU
COULD JUST LIFT NUMBER NINE IF
YOU LIFT THE CALLS. FILE ITEM
NUMBER 9 23 29. HAMBURG
CABALLERO. CABALLERO, I JONES.
HI. JONES. I'M MCGUIRE MCGUIRE,
I WIENER. WIENER I YOU HAVE 11
TO 0. ALRIGHT BILLS OUT. LET'S
JUST GO IN ORDER WHERE YOU GOING
TO DO EVERY SINGLE BILL SO
BECAUSE THERE'S EITHER A CALL OR
IT NEEDS A MOTION. SO ALRIGHT?
MM HMM. A B 24 66 FILE ITEM
NUMBER 10. HAMBURG GORGEOUS.
CABALLERO. CABALLERO. AYE.
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG, I JONES.
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE ICE TURN RIGHT.
STERN. I WIENER WIENER. AYE. YOU
HAVE 9 TO 0. UM, BILL IS OUT.
OKAY? A B 29 58 BY THE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BY THE ASSEMBLY
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY.
HERTZBERG 11 WAS PULLED. 11 WAS
PULLED ITEM NUMBER 12 A B 29 58
HERZBERG HERZBERG I JONES JONES.
I'M MCGUIRE MCGUIRE? AYE. WIENER
I 11 TO 0. WITH EVERYONE HERE.
ALRIGHT, BILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER 14 A B 16 11. HAMBURG,
HAMBURG. I COPY EURO CABALLERO.
I DO RUSSELL. YOU'RE A SO I,
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ. I HERTZBERG
HERTZBERG, I JONES. JONES. WHICH. YEAH, THERE'S A BUNCH OF US
THAT ALRIGHT, LET'S LET'S GO
BACK. OKAY I AM FILING THEM 14.
IT'S NOT VOTE.
OR WAS SET. ALL RIGHT. OKAY,
LET'S FINISH THE ROLL CALL, AND
THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ROLE.
OKAY? WEIRD. MCGUIRE STERN.
STERN, NO WIENER. HI. WIENER?
AYE. THIS IS 81 MOTION. IS THERE
A MOTION TO RESEND? ALL RIGHT?
WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA CALL THE
BOSS SO OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO
COME BACK IN A MOMENT TO FILE AN
M NUMBER 14 A B 16 11. IN THE
MEANTIME, LET'S GO TO FILE I AM
NUMBER 17 ALRIGHT. FILING NUMBER
17. ALL RIGHT. SO WE OKAY. ALL
RIGHT, SO WE NEED TO TAKE A
LITTLE BREAK. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE
GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BREAK.
SO WE HAVE NOT FINISHED WITH
ADAM NUMBER 14 A B 16 11. SO
WHAT? WHAT IS THE VOTE? 8 TO 1
TO ONE. OKAY THE BILL IS OUT AS
A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. SENATOR
WIENER MOST RECONSIDER WITHOUT
OBJECTION, WE WILL RECONSIDER
SAYING NO OBJECTION. ALRIGHT UH
, MOST RECONSIDER IS GRANTED, SO
LET'S GO BACK THROUGH THE ROLE.
ALRIGHT OKAY. FILE ITEM NUMBER
14 A B 16 11. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSES AMENDED, BUT FIRST
AMENDMENT REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HAMBURG GIORGIS. CABALLERO ZERO.
I DO RUSSELL. GONZALEZ.
HERTZBERG. JONES. SYRIANS. I
LEERED. MCGUIRE. STERN. WIENER.
WIENER? AYE. THAT'S FORWARD IS
ZERO. OKAY. GO BACK THROUGH.
GORGEOUS. AH DURAZO. GONZALES.
HERTZBERG LAIRD. MCGUIRE STERN.
ALL RIGHT. BILL FAILS MOST OF
THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION.
SENATE HERZBERG MOVES FOR
RECONSIDERATION WITHOUT
OBJECTION, ALRIGHT
RECONSIDERATION GRANTED,
ALRIGHT. NOW WE HAVE CONCLUDED
ITEM NUMBER 14 FOR NOW. NOW ON
TO ITEM NUMBER 17 A B 21 93.
FILE ITEM NUMBER 17 21 93 BORDJ
IS CABALLERO. SEVEN YEAR OLD
AYE. GONZALEZ. GONZALEZ. I
JONES. MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE EYES
STERN. RIGHT NOW, I WIENER.
CLEANER I YOU HAVE 9 TO 0 BILLS
OUT. NUMBER 18 FILE ITEM NUMBER
18 A B 25 20 GORGEOUS.
CABALLERO. CABALLERO, I
GONZALES. GONZALEZ. I MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE I STERN. IVS STERN, I
WIENER. WIENER, I YOU HAVE UM
91. PILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER
1980 13 41. HAMBURG. UM I
CABALLERO COUPLE YEARS OLD. I
HARTSBURG. HERTZBERG, I JONES.
FILE ITEM NUMBER 1980 13 41.
JONES? NO, MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE I
WIENER WIENER, I YOU HAVE 9 TO 2
PILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER 20,
MAYBE. 25 OH, THREE. HAMBURG.
NUMBER TWO. I CABALLERO. COPY
YOUR EYE, JONES. JONES? NO,
MCGUIRE. REQUIRE I WIENER? AYE.
YOU HAVE 10 TO 1 BILLS OUT. FILE
ITEM NUMBER, 21. A B 17 94 0.
COMING HERE. I JONES JONES. I
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE I WIENER
WIENER, I YOU HAVE 11 TO 0.
SCHOOL'S OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER
22 22 68 NEEDS A MOTION. SENATOR
LARRY. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
BUT FIRST BE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
UMBERG. HAMBURG. I BORE GIS.
GORGEOUS. I CABALLERO. CABALLERO
I'D RASO GONZALES. GONZALEZ. I
HERTZBERG HERTZBERG, I JONES.
FLARED MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE I STERN
STERN. I WIENER ER I YOU HAVE 10
TO 0 IS OUT. THE MOTION FOR 23.
YES RIGHT IN 23 89. SENATOR
LAIRD MOVES A B 19 OH, FOUR. THE
MOTION IS DUE PAST BUT FIRST BE
RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS HAMBURG. HAMBURG.
I BORE GIS. CABALLERO CABALLERO.
I DO RUSSELL GONZALES. CONSOLE
WAS I HERTZBERG? HERTZBERG JONES
JONES, I LEERED MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE
ICE TURN STERN I WIENER WIENER,
I YOU HAVE 10 TO 0 BILLS OUT.
MAYBE 25 95 ITEM NUMBER 30.
ISN'T IT? THE NEXT IN ORDER ITEM
NUMBER 28 23 92 ALRIGHT. THE
EIGHT UM, GORGEOUS. GORGEOUS I
CABALLERO CABALLERO, I GONZALES
GONZALEZ. I JONES. MCGUIRE.
MCGUIRE I STERN STERN. I WERE
WIENER I YOU HAVE 10 TO 0. BILLS
OUT. FILE ITEM. FILE ITEM. 38 25
95. GORGEOUS. OR JUST KNOW
HERTZBERG. PITTSBURGH, I JONES.
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE, I WIENER.
WIENER? AYE. YOU HAVE 9 TO 1.
JOHNSON. ALRIGHT, FILLS OUT.
FILEITEM NUMBER 32 A B 18 10.
GORGEOUS. GORGEOUS. I CABALLERO
CABALLERO DURAZO. GONZALES.
STERN. WIENER. WIENER? AYE. YOU
HAVE 8 TO 0. FILLS OUT. NEXT
ITEM, 33. FILE ITEM NUMBER 33 A
B 1949 GORGEOUS. GONZALEZ.
GONZALEZ? AYE. WIENER. WIENER?
AYE. YOU HAVE 9 TO 1. BILLS OUT
NEXT, PLEASE. FILE ITEM NUMBER
34 A B 16 63. HAMBURG. AYE. FILE
ITEM NUMBER 33 16 63. SORRY, 34.
MAIENSCHEIN. QUESTION ON THIS
ONE. MR. CHAIR. THERE WAS SOME
AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE
PROPOSED IN THE AUTHOR EXCEPT
THEM. ARE GETTING NODS FROM
STAFF. YES. ALL RIGHT. GREAT.
THANK YOU. FILE ITEM NUMBER 34
ABBEY 16 63 CABALLERO.
CABALLERO. I HERTZBERG
HERTZBERG, I JONES. JOHN'S I
MCGUIRE MCGUIRE, I WIENER.
WIENER? AYE. 11 TO 0. FIVE BILLS
OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER 35 A JR 27
GORGEOUS. FORGES I CABALLERO
YEAR OLD I JONES. JONES. I
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE I STERN STERN,
I WIENER AYE, WIENER. I 11 TO 0
RESOLUTION IS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER 37 A B 21 88 NEEDS
EMOTION. SIMILAR MOVES. THE
MOTION IS DUE PAST BUT FIRST BE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
LABOR, PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT AND
RETIREMENT. HAMBURG. HAMBURG. I
BORE GIS. OR JUST KNOW
CABALLERO. CABALLERO, I DURAZO.
SO I GONZALEZ. GONZALEZ. I
HERTZBERG. JONES. JON SNOW,
LAIRD. WEIRD I MCGUIRE MCGUIRE I
STERN STERN. I WIENER. WIENER?
AYE. YOU HAVE 82. FILLS OUT.
FILE ITEM NUMBER. PILOT NUMBER
41 NEXT WEEK, 40 RODRIGUEZ'S
PULLS. IT'S RIGHT THERE WAS
HEARING TODAY WILL BE CONSIDERED
NEXT WEEK. ALL RIGHT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER 41 23 69 HAMBURG. NUMBER
GUY CABALLERO CABALLERO, I JONES
JONES? NO, MCGUIRE MCGUIRE, I
WIENER. WIENER? AYE. YOU HAVE 10
TO 1. PILLS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER 42 A B 24 48 PROBABLY
EURO CABALLERO, I GONZALEZ.
GONZALEZ I WIENER I 11 TO 0 OUT.
ALL RIGHT. UM, THAT. SENATOR WE
HAVE SOME BILLS ON CALL FOR
SENATOR WIENER. BY, I THINK
RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA GO BACK
THROUGH ONE MORE TIME FOR ANY
BILL THAT WHERE THERE ARE
MEMBERS WHO WERE PRESENT. STRIKE
THAT WE'RE GONNA GO BACK THROUGH
FOR VOTES FOR MEMBERS WHO WERE
NOT PRESENT WHEN THE ROLE WAS
CALLED. OKAY? ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. CABALLERO CABALLERO, I
GONZALES GONZALEZ. I WIENER 11
TO 0. CONSENT CALENDARS ADOPTED. FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE A B 25 59
COPY EURO COUPLE YEAR OLD I
GONZALES. GOOD JOB. CONSOLE IS I. WIENER WIENER. I 92 BUILDS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO A B 24 06
COPY EURO D!I GONZALES.
GONZALEZ. I WIENER. WIENER, I
YOU HAVE 11 TO 0. BILLS OUT.
FILE ITEM NUMBER 3 23 15.
WIENER. BYE BYE. YOU HAVE 9 TO
2. FILLS OUT. FILE ITEM NUMBER
FOUR A. B 2089 WIENER. CLEANER.
I YOU HAVE 11 TO 0. FILLS OUT.
BOY CONVOY TO HOUSING COMMITTEE.
ALRIGHT BEFORE WE ADJOURN ONE
MORE ANNOUNCEMENT ANY OTHER BILL
THAT NEEDS TO BE RIGHT? BUT.
SO. JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN
ACCURATE RECORD. A B 16 11 WAS
GRANTED RECONSIDERATION ONE TIME
WITH THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED, WILL
RECONVENE NEXT TUESDAY AT 10
A.M. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.