ENERGY COMMITTEE. UM THE SENATE
COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, UTILITIES
AND COMMUNICATIONS. WILL NOW
COME TO ORDER. GOOD AFTERNOON.
EVERYBODY SORRY FOR THE DELAY.
WE'VE HAD SOME TECHNICAL
DIFFICULTIES HERE. AS WE
CONTINUE TO TAKE SOME
PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE THE COVID
19 RISKS, THE SENATE CONTINUES
TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC AND HAS
PROVIDED ACCESS AND BOTH IN
PERSON AND TELECONFERENCE
PARTICIPATION FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT. SO THE REQUIREMENT TO
PROVIDE TELECONFERENCE IS STILL
VERY REAL. THAT'S WHY WE'RE VERY
SORRY THAT WE'RE RUNNING LATE
TODAY. FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING
TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT VIA
THE TELECONFERENCE SERVICE. THE
PARTICIPANT, TOLL FREE NUMBER
AND ACCESS CODE IS POSTED OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE. I WILL
ANNOUNCE IT NOW. TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 1844. 291
6364. AND THE ACCESS CODE IS
5768. 138 AGAIN THE ACCESS CODE.
IS 5768. 138. HOW WILL MAINTAIN
THE QUORUM DURING THE HEARING,
AS IS CUSTOMARY AND ANY
INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS DISRUPTIVE
MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE REMOTE
MEETING SERVICE OR HAVE THEIR
CONNECTIONS MUTED. WE ARE
HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE HEARINGS
HERE IN THE STREET BUILDING. I
ASK ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
TO BE PRESENT IN ROOM. 1200 SO
WE CAN ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM AND
BEGIN OUR HEARING. WE HAVE EIGHT
BILLS. ON TODAY'S AGENDA,
HOWEVER, ITEMS TOO A B 12 2070
WAS IS NOT GOING TO BE HEARD IN
TODAY'S AGENDA. BEFORE WE HEAR
OUR PRESENTATION AND BILL'S LIST
ESTABLISHED A QUORUM. IF, LET ME
SEE. WE'RE STILL WAITING. OKAY
WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'LL
BEGIN AS A SUBCOMMITTEE. OF THE
COMMITTEE. DO WE HAVE ANY
AUTHORS PRESIDENT? IF NOT WHAT
I'LL DO IS I'LL TRANSFER THE.
THE GAVEL TO. OUR VICE CHAIR SO
HE CAN SHARE THE HEARINGS SO I
CAN PRESENT THE FIRST BILL. BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING. A B 2061
. MM. MR CHAIR. OKAY? 80 TO
2061. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UH
MAYBE 2061 IS A BILL THAT
REQUIRES ENTITIES RECEIVING
STATE OR RAPE PAIR FUNDING FOR
ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR
INFRASTRUCTURE. TO REPORT
SPECIFIED INFORMATION ABOUT THAT
INFRASTRUCTURES. UP TIME TO THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION,
AND IT REQUIRES A C E C TO
ASSESS THIS DATA DATA. THIS BILL
ALSO AUTHORIZES THE CTC TO ADOPT
UPTIME REQUIREMENTS AND
INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE YOU VE
ADOPTION. AH, THIS BILL.
REQUIRES ENTITIES THAT RECEIVE
STATE AGENCY OR AXPAYER FUNDING
TO INSTALL OWN OR OPERATE A
CHARGING STATION TO REPORT UP
TIME. INFORMATION TO THE C E. C.
STARTING JULY, 2023. IT ALSO
REQUIRES THAT ENTITIES THAT
RECEIVE STATE OR TO REPAIR FUNDS
FOR EV CHARGERS TO REPORT
SPECIFIED UP TIME DATA FOR 12
MONTHS. OR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS
AND LESS OF FUNDING ENTITY AND
THE C C APPROVED AH, ANOTHER
ALTERNATIVE REPORTING DURATION.
UM. WE AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND.
THE AUTHOR IS ACCEPTING, UH,
THERE ARE NO AMENDMENTS ON THIS
BILL, SO THE BILL IS HAS BEEN
THOROUGHLY REVIEWED. BYE BYE. MY
OFFICE SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING,
AND I VOTE ON THIS BILL LAST
YEAR. THE BUDGET BILL SB 1 29.
SPECIFY THAT THE ENERGY
COMMISSION HAD TO BEGIN TRACKING
THE DOWNTIME OF CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE. MAYBE 2061
PROVIDES A POLICY FRAMEWORK FOR
CONNECT, COLLECTING AND
ANALYZING DATA. I HAD TODAY WE
HAVE IN SUPPORT, CORY. BULLIES
THE SENIOR PUBLIC AFFAIRS
SPECIALIST FROM FLOW. AND
SAMANTHA ORTEGA, MANAGER OF
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FROM
CHARGER, HELP. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR MY VOTE. THANK YOU.
WITNESS ONE NUMBER ONE IN
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND
MEMBERS READ AT US ON BEHALF OF
FLOW COVERING FOR COREY BOLAS
HERE IN SUPPORT TODAY FLOWS
NORTH AMERICAN MANUFACTURER OF
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. UH
WE'RE IN STRONG SUPPORT, BECAUSE
AS THIS STATE NEEDS TO SCALE UP
THE INDUSTRY AND WE WORK WITH
MANY OF OUR COLLEAGUES TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ARE BUILDING OUT
THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE SO WE CAN SUPPORT
OUR MANY CLIMATE AND
ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS. WE ALSO
NEED TO WALK AND CHEW GUM. AND
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WE NEED
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES
WERE PROVIDING TO CUSTOMERS ARE
AS RELIABLE AS POSSIBLE. THIS
BILL HELPS US ESTABLISH THE
METHODOLOGY BY WHICH DATA CAN BE
COLLECTED FROM OUR INDUSTRY AND
SUBMITTED TO VARIOUS STATE
AGENCIES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A
THOUGHTFUL APPROACH ON HOW TO
ADDRESS THAT RELIABILITY AND
MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S
INFORMATION FOR THE STATE AS IT
THINKS THROUGH HOW TO MAKE SURE
THAT CUSTOMERS GET THE BEST
SERVICES POSSIBLE. SO AGAIN IN
STRONG SUPPORT TODAY, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, UH,
SUPPORTING WITNESS NUMBER TWO
SAMANTHA ORTEGA. GOOD AFTERNOON.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.
THANK YOU. PROCEED. THANK YOU.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
SAMANTHA OR TAKE ON BEHALF OF
CHARGER HELP, AND WE'RE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF 2061 FOR YOUR
HELP IS A TECH COMPANY BASED IN
LOS ANGELES. THAT ENABLES THE ON
DEMAND REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING
STATIONS WILL SOFTWARE AND
HARDWARE BUILDING OUT LOCAL
WORKFORCES AND ENABLING ECONOMIC
MOBILITY WITHIN ALL COMMUNITIES.
BE CURRENTLY WORKING OVER 11
STATE SERVICES. THOUSANDS OF
CHARGING STATIONS WITHIN
MULTITUDE OF ENVIRONMENT. AND WE
HAVE FOUND IN RECENT SURVEYS
THAT OUR TECHNICIANS HAVE
CONDUCTED THAT IN PARTICULAR
CALIFORNIA, THERE'S UPWARDS OF
30. CHARGING STATIONS THAT ARE
BROKEN AT ANY GIVEN TIME. AND
WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW MUCH
CALIFORNIA HAS INVESTED THUS FAR
AND THE CHARGING STATIONS THAT
ARE YET TO COME 30% OF IN
OPERABILITY, IT'S JUST IT'S NOT
ACCEPTABLE AND TRULY
SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERMINES WHETHER
WE HAVE TRULY MADE PROGRESS
TOWARDS THIS GOAL. THE STATE
MUST UNDERSTAND THE COMMON
FAILURES AND ENSURE THAT THE
CHARGING STATIONS DEPLOYED HERE
ARE QUALITY AND RELIABILITY
GOALS. WE AGREE THAT THERE IS
MUCH MORE DATA THAT NEEDS TO BE
COLLECTED AND ANALYZED. TO KNOW
THE EXTENT OF THE PROBLEM. WE
ALSO WANT TO ENSURE LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES ARE NOT EXPERIENCING
BROKEN PUBLIC CHARGES MORE OFTEN
AND FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME
COMPARED TO MORE WEALTHIER SO WE
STRONGLY BELIEVE 61 TAKES THE
REASONABLE APPROACH TO THIS
ISSUE, AND WE RESPECTFULLY URGE
YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MY
RAILROAD. WOULD YOU PLEASE QUEUE
UP ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT, PLEASE NAME HERE AND
HERE IN THE ROOM FIRST, AND THEN
WE'LL GO TO THE MODERATE. SORRY.
YEAH JULIE MALINOWSKI BALL ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION
COALITION AND SUPPORT. ADAM
SMITH, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON IN SUPPORT. MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS RUSTY KANOUTE'S AND ON
BEHALF OF THE AUTOMOBILE CLUB OF
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. RETURN MEMBER SYLVIA
SALAS SHOW ON BEHALF OF ADVANCED
ENERGY ECONOMY AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
CHAIR READ AT US AGAIN ON BEHALF
OF CAL START AND THE ELECTRIC
VEHICLE CHARGING ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU, MODERATOR.
PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE AND
SUPPORT FOR A B 2061 NAME AND
ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. UM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF A B
2061 PLEASE PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED
BY ZERO AT THIS TIME WHEN
FOLLOWED BY ZERO FOR SUPPORT FOR
A B 2061. AND WE WILL BEGIN
TODAY WITH LINE NUMBER. 57,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. 57. 57 HELLO.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES. OKAY
AMBER, SAY HELLO TRENTON PRICE
CONSULTING ON BEHALF OF
ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND NEXT, WE
WILL GO TO. ONE MOMENT THERE WAS
AN OPERATOR SHOULD BE WITH US
MOMENTARILY. ANYBODY ELSE GO AND
HIT 10 IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF
A B 2061 LINE, 43 YOU ARE OPEN.
POSITION FOR YOU TO PARK ON
BEHALF OF 3 15 AREA ACTION. WE
ARE STRONGLY SUPPORT. THANK YOU
. WE'LL GET ONE MORE FINAL
REMINDER IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 2061, PLEASE TAKE THIS
OPPORTUNITY HIT 10 45 GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. LINE 45 YEAR OLD BUT
PLEASE AMUSE YOU. ONE MORE SHOT
LINE 45. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
TESTIFY? THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING
. THERE'S NO OTHER PEOPLE AT
THIS TIME. THANK YOU, MR
MODERATOR. UH WE HAVE NO LEAD
OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYONE HERE
IN THE ROOM THAT IS OPPOSED TO A
B? 2061 YES, SIR. CHAIR TONI BOU
WITH THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT
ASSOCIATION. WE ARE OPPOSING
THIS AMENDED, BUT WE HAVE BEEN
TALKING WITH THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE
AND WE ARE PREPARED AND PLANNED
TO BE NEUTRAL, BUT JUST NOT
OFFICIALLY. THANKS. OKAY. ANYONE
ELSE HERE? AND ROOM 1200. SEEING
NONE. MODERATOR, WOULD YOU
PLEASE SEE QUÊ UP FOR OPPOSITION
TO A B 2061. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR, IF YOU ARE WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO A B
2061 CALLED AND HAD 10 AT THIS
TIME ONE, FOLLOWED BY A ZERO MR
CHAIR. NOBODY IS QUEUING UP.
THANK YOU. WE'LL BRING IT BACK
FOR, UH, ACTUALLY, WE CAN'T DO
ANY DISCUSSION UNTIL WE HAVE A
CORN. SO THERE IS DISCUSSION. WE
WOULD YEAH. IS THERE ANY
DISCUSSION ON A B 2061? SEEING
NONE. WE WILL. AS SOON AS WE GET
A CORN. WE WILL COME BACK TO
THIS BILL. THANK YOU TRAVELS
BACK TO THE CHAIR. WE'LL HEAR
FROM OUR NEXT AUTHOR ON ITEM
NUMBER THREE BABY. 2083 BY. UH
FAMOUS SOCCER PLAYER ALEX MORGAN
IS HERE TODAY. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
BAR KAYHAN. AND I'M STILL
WALKING SENATOR. GOOD AH, THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS. GLAD
WE GOT EVERYTHING WORKING.
TODAY. I'M PRESENTING A B 2083 A
BILL THAT PROTECTS RATEPAYERS
AND SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS FOR
UTILITY CAUSED WILDFIRES. FIRST
I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
FOR THEIR WORK WITH MY TEAM ON
THIS INCREDIBLE IMPORTANT BILL.
AND ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENTS. AND LET ME JUST A
LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY, AND
THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT
WHAT THE AMENDMENTS DO SO
SECTION A. WE'RE ENSURING THAT
IN ON PAGE FIVE OF THE ANALYSIS
THAT, UH, REPAIRS ARE NOT
COVERING NEW OR ADDITIONAL
ACTIVITIES THAT ARE COVERED IN
SETTLEMENTS AND SECTION B
ENSURES THAT WE ARE NOT IN
VIOLATION OF THE TAKINGS CLAUSE,
AS INDICATED IN THE ANALYSIS. UM
I WANT TO THANK, UM SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA EDISON FOR THEIR HARD
WORK WITH MY OFFICE AND THEIR
PARTNERSHIP IN GETTING TO THIS
PLACE. CURRENTLY WHEN CIVIL OR
CRIMINAL FINES ARE LEVIED
AGAINST AN ELECTRICAL OR GAS
UTILITY COMPANY IN A COURT OF
LAW RELATING TO WILDFIRE
CONVICTIONS. CALIFORNIA LAW
FORBIDS THE COMPANIES FROM USING
GREAT PARA FUNDS TO COVER THESE
PENALTIES. HOWEVER THERE'S A
LOOPHOLE IN CURRENT LAW THAT
ALLOWS THE SAME UTILITIES TO USE
REPAIR FUNDS TO COVER THESE SAME
FINES AND PENALTIES F A
SETTLEMENT IS REACHED PRIOR TO
TRIAL WITH THE COUNTY, CITY OR
STATE. A FEW MONTHS AGO. THE SIX
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
IMPACTED BY THE DEVASTATING 2021
DIXIE FIRE AGREED TO A CIVIL
PROSECUTION SETTLEMENT WITH PGD
, WHO ADMITTED RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THE WILDFIRE. THAT
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT INCLUDES
EXPEDITED DIRECT PAYMENTS FOR
HOME LOSS, MEDIATION SUPPORT FOR
COMMERCIAL TIMBER LANDOWNERS,
PERFORMANCE COMMITMENTS, GOOD
FAITH CONTRIBUTIONS TO NON
PROFITS AND CIVIL PENALTIES.
WHILE THE AGREEMENT STIPULATED
THAT THE GOOD FAITH
CONTRIBUTIONS AND PENALTIES WERE
NOT RECOVERABLE THROUGH PG NEW
RATES. THE REST OF THE AGREEMENT
DID NOT PROVIDE THIS PROTECTION.
THESE COMMITMENTS TO SAFETY WORK
DO NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN
APPROVED BY THE CPUC OR THE O.
E. I S IT IS NOT CLEAR HOW THE
FUNDING AND EXECUTION OF THE
SAFETY WORK IN THE SIX COUNTIES
STUCK UP AGAINST THE SAFETY
NEEDS AND PRIORITIES OF THOSE
COUNTIES. COMPARED TO THE OTHER
COUNTIES IN THE TERRITORY.
CASTING THE SENTIMENT WILL BE
PASSED ON TO THE UTILITY
COMPANIES RATE PAIRS, SOME OF
WHOM ARE SITTING HERE TODAY.
MAYBE 2083 SIMPLY PROHIBITS ANY
REPAIR FUNDS FROM BEING USED IN
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES. BY
CLOSING THIS LOOPHOLE, WE WILL
ENSURE THAT REPAIR FUNDS ARE
PROTECTED THE SAME WAY THEY
WOULD BE IF A CASE WENT TO
TRIAL. WITH ME TODAY BY FOLKS
PHONE, PHONE AND SUPPORT.
ALTHOUGH ACTUALLY I THINK
THEY'RE HERE IN PERSON. KÞT
MORSE, SYDNEY STAFF ATTORNEY
WITH THE UTILITY REFORM NETWORK,
I THINK IS HERE IN PERSON. OH,
BABY ON THE PHONE. I'M ACTUALLY
ON. AH. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME
IS KATIE MORE SONY AND I AM A
STAFF ATTORNEY WOULD TURN THE
UTILITY REFORM NETWORK TURN IS A
PROUD SPONSOR OF THIS BILL,
PROTECTING RATE PAIRS FROM
SENDING ANY SETTLEMENT AND
RELATED SENSES. THAT UTILITY
AGREES TO IN ORDER TO AVOID
CRIMINAL OR CIVIL CHARGES.
ALLOWING ANY SETTLEMENT COSTS TO
BE PASSED THROUGH TO THE RIGHT
PAIRS DEFEATS THE PURPOSES OF
HOLDING THE UTILITY ACCOUNTABLE
FOR THE MISMANAGEMENT AND FAILED
OPERATIONS OF ITS FACILITIES.
ALERTED BY THE AUTHOR, IN
ADDITION TO IDENTIFY DIRECT
PAYMENTS AND MONETARY RELIEF,
THE AGREEMENT REACHED BY PG AND
E AND THE COUNTY'S IDENTIFIES
OTHER REMEDIES, INCLUDING NEW
POSITION. BUT THESE HAVE A COST
AND IT SHOULD BE PAID BY
SHAREHOLDERS. WHAT THE LANGUAGE
OF THE AGREEMENT MAKES IT CLEAR
THAT CERTAIN PENALTIES CANNOT BE
PASSED ALONG TO RATEPAYERS. IT
IS LESS CLEAR ON THE TREATMENT
OF OTHER NON MONETARY REMEDIES.
THIS LEAVES AN OUTSIDE CHANCE
THAT RATEPAYERS WILL PAY THE
CONSEQUENCES FOR THE UTILITIES
MANAGEMENT. IN FACT, INVESTOR
REPORTING HIGHLIGHTED THAT
CERTAIN INCLUDED REMEDIES LIKE
THE NEW POSITIONS CALLED FOR IN
THE SETTLEMENT WOULD BE PAID FOR
THROUGH UTILITY RATES. THE
LANGUAGE OF THIS BILL WOULD
PREVENT THAT FROM EVEN BEING AN
OPTION FOR THE UTILITY. THE
DYLAN HOLD A UTILITY ACCOUNTABLE
FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF ITS
MISTY'S AND PROTECT RATEPAYERS
WHO ALREADY PAID DEARLY FOR
THEIR ELECTRIC SERVICE FROM
PAYING EVEN MORE FOR THE
OPERATIONAL FAILURES OF UTILITY
FURTHER. THE BILL WOULD MAKE
REMEDIES AGREED TO BY THE
UTILITY AND THIS TYPE OF
SETTLEMENT MORE MEANINGFUL. TURN
AGREES THAT SPEEDY
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE
COMMUNITIES IMPACTED BY UTILITY
CAUSED WILD VIRUSES DESERVED BUT
THAT RESTITUTION SHOULD NOT BE
FUNDED BY FELLOW UTILITY
RATEPAYERS. SETTLING A CASE TO
AVOID FURTHER CHARGES THAT IS OF
GREAT VALUE TO SHAREHOLDERS, AND
THIS LAW WOULD ENSURE THAT THE
UTILITY CANNOT FURTHER ENRICH
SHAREHOLDERS BY ALLOWING REPAIRS
TO PAY FOR SETTLEMENTS, EVEN IN
PART TURNING HIS PROUDEST MONTHS
OF BILL AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WE'LL GO TO NOW
SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE BILL.
ANYONE HERE IN THE GALLERY IN
FAVOR? OF A B 2083. I SEE NO
ONE. CAN WE GO TO THE PHONE
LINES? MODERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE
QUÊ SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF A B
2083? WE'RE ASKING SIMPLY THAT
YOU STATE YOUR NAME POSITION AND
ANY AFFILIATION THAT YOU MIGHT
HAVE THANK YOU, MR CHAIR IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS, UH,
SUPPORT FOR A B 2083 GO AHEAD
AND HIT 10 AT THIS TIME ONE,
FOLLOWED BY ZERO FOR SUPPORT ON
A B 2083. WE WILL LINE 12,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. WILL ABRAMS,
WILDFIRE SURVIVOR AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF A 2083. WE'LL GIVE
ONE MORE REMINDER TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR A B 2083 PLEASE
PRESS 10. MR CHAIR. THERE ARE NO
OTHER PARTICIPANTS QUEUING UP.
THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO SPEAKERS
IN OPPOSITION. WE HAVE NO
ORGANIZED PRESENTERS AND
OPPOSITION. SO GOT TO THE
GALLERY. YEAH ADAM SMITH,
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IS AN
OFFICIALLY REMOVING OPPOSITION
APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE
AUTHOR AND THE COMMITTEE STAFF.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. BRANDON
BECK. PACIFIC GAS ELECTRIC,
ECHOED COMMENTS MEDICINE. WE'RE
THANKFUL TO RETAIN THE
JURISDICTION OF THE PUC IN THIS
MATTER. THANK YOU. MORNING
MEMBERS. WILLIAM MCKAY ON BEHALF
OF SC GENIE. ALSO GOING NEUTRAL
, THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR
WORK AND THE AUTHOR FOR
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. NOW WE'LL GO TO
THE MODERATOR, UH, AND THE PHONE
LINES, PLEASE. ACCU SPEAKERS. IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 2083. PLEASE
LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO YOUR
POSITION, YOUR NAME AND YOUR
AFFILIATION, IF ANY THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. IF YOU ARE IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 2083 PLEASE
PRESS 109 60. YOU ARE OPEN.
LINE. 60, PLEASE GO AHEAD. ARE
YOU MUTED? 2060 YOU ARE OPEN.
THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING. WE'LL
GIVE ANOTHER REMINDER, PLEASE
PRESS 10 FOR YOUR IN OPPOSITION
TO HB 2083. AND MR CHAIR. NOBODY
ELSE'S QUEUING UP. OKAY. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. NOW COME TO THE
COMMITTEE. CENTER MEN. YOUR
MIKE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME
THAT. SO THANK YOU AGAIN TO
THANK YOU. UM THANK YOU FOR ALL
THE HARD WORK ON THIS BILL AND
WORKING WITH OPPOSITION
STAKEHOLDERS AND APPRECIATE THE
AMENDMENTS. I DID HAVE A COUPLE
QUESTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO ASK,
I GUESS FIRST, UM, ANY I GUESS.
INITIAL OPPOSITION. ONE OF THE
ARGUMENTS MADE BY THE IOC I O. U
S. WAS THAT THE BILL? UH IS
DUPLICATIVE OR REDUNDANT OF
EXISTING AUTHORITY. SO I GUESS
MY QUESTION IS, DOES CPUC
ALREADY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO UM
MEN MAY DICTATE THAT THAT
SETTLEMENTS CANNOT BE PAID FOR
OUT OF BRAIN INCREASES AS YOU AS
WE SAW FROM THE DIXIE FIRE. IT
NEVER WENT BEFORE THE PUC RIGHT,
SO THEY AGREED TO THE SETTLEMENT
IN THE SETTLEMENT. CERTAIN RAPE
FUNDS WERE EXCLUDED FROM
RATEPAYERS, BUT THE REST WERE
NOT RUN BY THE PSC B COULD
FREEZE THE RATES LIKE IN LYNN
LOBEL SETTLEMENT B ABSOLUTELY
CONTROLS RATES SO OKAY, THAT
WOULD HAVE. I MEAN, IF THEY CAME
FOR A RATE INCREASE, THAT WOULD
SO IN OTHER WORDS, RAIN INCREASE
. IN OTHER WORDS, I'M A I'M A
SUBTLE MP. JEANNIE AND I HAVE A
SETTLEMENT, AND I DECIDED THAT I
WANT TO TRY TO RECOUP THAT
THROUGH A RATE INCREASE. PUC CAN
TELL ME. I CAN'T INCREASE RATES,
RIGHT? YES, OKAY. AND THEN I
GUESS THE SECOND QUESTION IS,
YOU KNOW WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
THIS BILL YOU KNOW, I WORRY
ABOUT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES,
AND WHEN THIS NECESSARILY HAVE
THE EFFECT OF POTENTIALLY
DETERRING SETTLEMENTS AND
LEADING TO MORE LITIGATION
BETWEEN DIFFERENT PARTIES AND
UTILITIES. I DON'T THINK SO. I
MEAN, IT'S YOU KNOW, AS A FORMER
LITIGATOR, I CAN SAY THE MOST
CASES SETTLE. THAT'S JUST THE
WAY OF THE WORLD. AND I THINK
THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE TRUE
BECAUSE PARTIES COME TOGETHER
AND THEY FIND COMMON GROUND AND
THIS JUST ALIGNS. THE RULES FOR
SETTLEMENT IS TRIALS. THERE'S NO
BENEFIT TO GOING TO TRIAL RIGHT.
THESE ALREADY ARE EXCLUDED FROM
REPAIR FUNDS IF THEY GO TO
TRIAL, SO I DON'T SEE THAT THERE
WOULD BE AN INCENTIVE NOT TO
SETTLE IT. WE'RE JUST EVENING
THE PLAYING FIELD. WHAT BRAND
THE STATUS QUO. THERE'S AN
INCENTIVE TO SETTLE, RIGHT.
THAT'S TRUE. AND SO YOU'RE
GETTING RID OF THAT INCENTIVE
SETTLED SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY
LEAD TO MORE LITIGATION, RIGHT
IF I IF I'M A LITIGATOR, I
DECIDED TO GO TO COURT RATHER
THAN SETTLE BECAUSE THERE IS NOW
AN INCREASED COST OF SETTLEMENT.
RIGHT WELL, THERE'S ALREADY IN
SENATE. THE REASON MOST THINGS
SETTLES AS AUTHORITIES
INCENTIVES TO SETTLE BECAUSE THE
COST OF LITIGATION IS SO
EXTRAORDINARY AND IT'S AND IT'S
A ROLL OF THE DICE AS YOU KNOW,
OF COURSE, SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY
A LOT OF RISKS INVOLVED WITH
LITIGATION, BUT WE'RE REMOVING
ONE MEANINGFUL. INCENTIVE RIGHT
NOW TO SETTLE RIGHT? ONE COULD
ARGUE THAT I MEAN, I THINK THAT
THERE CONTINUES TO BE MOTIVATION
TO SETTLE. I THINK THINGS WILL
CONTINUE TO SETTLE, BUT THE
REPAIRS WILL NOT BE ON THE HOOK.
IF THAT CASE AND THEN YOU AND I
HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF TALKING A
LITTLE EARLIER ABOUT THIS BILL,
AND I GUESS, UM ONE OF THE
THINGS I ASKED, IS WHERE DOES
THE MONEY COME FROM? INTO I IF
IT'S NOT COMING FROM RATE
INCREASES THAT WOULD COME FROM,
AS YOU SAID TO ME, I THINK IT
WOULD COME FROM THE SHAREHOLDERS
FROM PROFITS EACH YEAR OR IF
THEY HAVE ANY CASH IN RESERVE OR
OR OTHER POTS OF MONEY. AND I
GUESS THE QUESTION YOU KNOW I
HAVE IS IF THERE'S A VERY LARGE
SETTLEMENT. AND WE'RE TAKING
AWAY FROM THE RESERVES OF
UTILITIES. DOESN'T THAT CREATE
AN INCREASED RISK OF THE
TAXPAYER THAT WE HAVE TO BAIL
OUT SOME OF THESE UTILITIES?
LIKE IF WE'RE DOING AN ABSOLUTE
PROHIBITION THAT YOU CAN'T PAY
FOR SETTLEMENT OUT OF RATE
INCREASES OR RATES. IN THAT
MONEY COMES FROM VARIOUS
RESERVES THAT TE COMPANY MIGHT
HAVE WOULD THAT NOT INCREASED
RISK OF THE TAXPAYER? I MEAN,
THERE'S ALREADY REST BECAUSE WE
SAW WITH WHAT WE HAD TO DO WITH
PG NHI YEARS BACK. UM AND SO I
MEAN THAT RISK. I DON'T THINK
THIS CHANGES THAT RISK
CALCULATION SIGNIFICANTLY
BECAUSE AGAIN THE LAW IS
CURRENTLY SET UP SO THAT REPAIRS
ARE NOT PAYING THESE THINGS.
RIGHT. SETTLEMENTS ARE LOOPHOLE
IN THE LAW, UM, WHICH ARE BEING
EXPLOITED, BUT I THINK, UM YOU
KNOW, WITH THE CURRENT WILDFIRE
RISK. IS THERE A RISK PRESENT? I
CAN'T SAY THERE'S NOT. BUT THERE
ARE ALSO RECORD RECORD
SHAREHOLDER PROFITS. CEOS OF
THESE I O. U S ARE MAKING A LOT
OF MONEY. AND I THINK THAT THE
RATEPAYERS SHOULD NOT BE THE
ONES ON THE HOOK. ALRIGHT I
APPRECIATE THAT. UM THANK YOU
FOR YOUR ANSWERS. AND UM, UM I
APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF THIS
BILL FOR SURE. THANK YOU,
SENATOR. SO WE STILL DON'T HAVE
A QUORUM, SO WE'LL WAIT FOR A
QUORUM. THANK YOU, TOO. MAKE A
MOTION. DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY
CLOSING? DID YOU WANT TO ANYONE
MORE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO MAKE
OKAY, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT YOUR
BILL TODAY, BUT BUT I THINK THE
SENATOR BRINGS UP THE POINT AND
AT THE END OF THE DAY UM THE PUC
, I THINK IS THE BIGGEST
CHALLENGE WE HAVE AS LEGISLATORS
. LOOK IF YOU GET TO THE POINT
WHERE YOU'RE IN BANKRUPTCY
BECAUSE OF WILDFIRE, WHICH
WE'VE, WE'VE ALL LIVED THROUGH
THIS HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE. BUT
YOU'RE IN BANKRUPTCY AT THAT
POINT, AND THEN THEN YOU WERE,
THEN THE TAXPAYER IS ON THE OR
THE RATEPAYERS ON THE HOOK. I
THINK THE CRUX OF THE
LEGISLATION IS WHICH I DON'T. I
HAVEN'T SEEN THE AMENDMENTS. I
HAVEN'T SEEN IT WHERE YOUR
OPPOSITION, BUT THEY ALL TALKED
ABOUT THE PUC. B, I THINK IS
THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE. THEY
DIDN'T REQUIRE THE UTILITIES TO
ACTUALLY GO OUT AND CHECK THAT
THEY WERE DOING THE JOB ON THEIR
MAINTENANCE OF THEIR OF THEIR
INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THEN MADE
ALL THESE PROFITS PAID IT ALL
OUT AND IN, UH IN TO THEIR
INVESTORS, AND THEN COME BACK TO
THE RATEPAYERS. SO HOW DOES THIS
BILL GOING TO ENSURE THAT WE
ACTUALLY GET THE PUC TO DO WHAT
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, WHICH IS
MAKE SURE THE UTILITIES IN THE
FIRST PLACE, MANAGE THEIR
INFRASTRUCTURE IN A WAY THAT
IT'S SAFE. OR DO THE BETTER A
LOT BETTER JOB THAN WHAT THEY
DID THAT THAT TO ME IS LIKE THE
QUESTION. WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK
HERE IN THE SAME POSITION. YOU
KNOW WHENEVER THERE'S A FIRE IF
THEY IF THE IF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T UPGRADED
AND TAKEN CARE OF MAY I? THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. I COULDN'T AGREE
MORE SENATOR AND I KNOW YOU AND
I BOTH LIVE IN DIFFERENT AREAS,
BUT AREAS THAT ARE AT RISK FROM
THESE TYPE OF WILDFIRES, AND
IT'S WHY I WORKED SO HARD ON
THESE ISSUES. AND THEY WHAT
KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT. AND I
IMAGINE THE SAME IS TRUE FOR
YOU. UM AND SO, ABSOLUTELY. I
THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED
TO FOCUS ON IS PREVENTING THESE
WILDFIRES. I MEAN, THAT SHOULD
BE OUR JOB, 12 AND THREE AS FAR
AS I'M CONCERNED, BECAUSE, AS WE
KNOW, AND WE'VE SEEN THE LOSS OF
LIFE, AND I KNOW SENATOR DODD
HAS SEEN THE SAME THE LOSS OF
LIFE AND COMMUNITIES THAT HAS
RESULTED FROM THESE WILDFIRES IS
BEYOND THE POINT WHERE WE SHOULD
BE ACCEPTING ANY OF IT ANYMORE,
AND WE DO NEED TO BE ENSURING
THAT THE WORK IS BEING DONE, AND
THEN WE WERE PREVENTING THE
WILDFIRES, AND THIS DOES JUST
DEAL WITH THE BACK END AFTER IT
HAS HAPPENED. UM AND THERE'S
MORE WORK TO BE DONE. I AGREE,
BUT I THINK THAT THIS ENSURES
THAT WE ARE NOT THEN TAKING THE
ALLOWING THE I USED TO GO
CONTINUE TO PROFIT AND PUTTING
IT ON THE BACKS OF THE
RATEPAYERS, WHICH IS WHAT IS
CURRENTLY HAPPENING WHEN THEY
SETTLE AND SO WE SHOULD BE
PREVENTING WILDFIRES. WE SHOULD
BE ENSURING THAT THEY ARE DOING
WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. AND TO BE
HONEST WITH YOU. I THINK THIS
INCENTIVIZES THEM TO DO THAT
WHEN THEY CAN PUT IT ON THE BACK
OF REPAIRS INSTEAD OF
SHAREHOLDERS, WHAT'S THEIR
INCENTIVE TO PREVENT THE
WILDFIRE? THIS PUTTING IT ON
THEIR PROFITS, I THINK WILL MAKE
THEM INVEST BETTER. WELL I M
GONNA SUPPORT YOUR BILL BECAUSE
I I'M TRYING TO THE SAME PLACE.
WE'RE ALL TRYING AT THE SAME
PLACE AT THE END OF THE DAY. IF
THE B, WHICH IS AN APPOINTED
BODY DOESN'T DO THEIR JOB. WE
ALL HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE OF
DEALING WITH LOSS OF LIFE. I'VE
PROBABLY EXPERIENCED IT MORE I
SEE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GALLAGHER
SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE. WE
EXPERIENCED THE HISTORY THE
LARGEST THE CAMPFIRE. AND LAST
YEAR I SAW THE DIXIE FIRE WAS
ALL IN MY DISTRICT. SAME PLACE,
SO B HAS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE
HOLDING THE UTILITIES FEET TO
THE FIRE TO GET THE
INFRASTRUCTURE. IN SHAPE SO THAT
WE DON'T HAVE THESE CATASTROPHIC
EVENTS. THANK YOU. I WILL BE
SUPPORTING YOUR SENATOR. THANK
YOU, SENATOR DODD. YEAH I DON'T
SEE THIS AS. GERMAN REALLY, TO
THIS COVERAGE. I THINK YOU'RE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THAT SENATOR,
I THINK WHAT THIS DOES IS, IT
DOES NOT ALLOW A UTILITY TO SAY
OH, I'M GOING TO SETTLE AND HAVE
AN EXPENSIVE SETTLEMENT THAT'S
GOING TO BE ON THE BACKS OF
RATEPAYERS. AND SO HOPEFULLY
YOU'RE RIGHT. IF B DOES THEIR
CPUC DOES THEIR JOB AH! YOU
KNOW? IN AND I THINK WE'RE
SEEING SIGNS THAT ACTUALLY
THAT'S HAPPENING TO SUPPORT YOUR
BILL. I THINK IT'S A GREAT BILL,
AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'VE
DONE WITH THE OPPOSITION HERE,
MAKING IT A LOT EASIER FOR
EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT TODAY. THANK
YOU. WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS.
GREAT DISCUSSION. DID YOU WANT
TO MAKE CLOSER? I WILL ACCEPT
THAT AS MY CLOTHES AND RESPECT
FASTER RABBIT THINK SO. I
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH AND WILL
UH, ONCE WE ESTABLISH QUORUM
WILL, UM, TAKE ACTION ON SPILL.
WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT BILL BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GALLAGHER A B
2023. WELCOME. DO YOU BUST A
WATERMELON WATERMELON AS PART OF
YOUR OPENING JUST OCCASIONALLY,
YOU KNOW, FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS?
YEAH. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO
MESSY IN HERE TODAY JOKE. SOME
OF US, YOU KNOW OUR GENERATION
GET THAT, RIGHT? YEAH I WAS A
GOOD COMEDIAN. I WOULDN'T BE
HERE. YAHOO WELL, THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN AND SENATORS APPRECIATE
YOUR ATTENTION TO A B 28 83.
THIS IS ONE OF TWO BILLS THAT
I'M DOING THIS YEAR TO HELP WITH
VICTIMS OF THE, UH, WILDFIRE
VICTIMS SAFETY WILDFIRE VICTIMS
TRUST AS YOU. AS YOU ARE ALL TOO
FAMILIAR. WE'VE HAD THESE
DEVASTATING FARMS. WE WERE JUST
TALKING ABOUT THAT. UM, YOU
KNOW, AND AS VICTIMS OF THE
CAMPFIRE. THE BUTTE FIRE AND THE
NORTH BAY FIRES. UM ARE ALL
CLAIMANTS TO THE PG NHI
WILDFIRE VICTIMS TRUST. UM YOU
KNOW, ONE OF THE BILLS THAT I'M
DOING THIS YEAR THAT I'M GLAD TO
SEE US PROCEEDING FORWARD, AS IS
A TAX EXEMPTION FOR THOSE
VICTIMS AT THE VERY LEAST, WHEN
THEY GET THESE SETTLEMENT
PAYMENTS, THERE SHOULDN'T BE
TAXED ON THEM. BUT THIS BILL IS
THE OTHER PART OF THAT WHICH IS
PART OF THAT SETTLEMENT WAS WHAT
ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS HALF OF
THE SETTLEMENT WAS CASH. AND THE
OTHER HALF WAS STOCK. UM AND THE
PROBLEM THAT IS A ARISEN, YOU
KNOW, SINCE THAT TIME IS, YOU
KNOW THE STOCK VALUE HAS, UH,
YOU KNOW, GONE DOWN, SO THE FULL
VALUE OF WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED
TO GET WAS $13.5 BILLION. UM
HALF CASH, HALF STOCK. THE VALUE
OF THE STOCKS GONE DOWN TO THE
CORPUS OF THAT ENTIRE TRUST IS
NOT 13.5 BILLION. UM AND THE.
THE TRUST IS TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT HOW HOW DO THEY, YOU KNOW,
SELL THAT STOCK STRATEGICALLY,
BUT SELLING IT NOW THEY'D BE
SELLING IT AT A LOSS. UM AND YOU
KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN'T BE
LEFT HOLDING THE BAG IS THE
VICTIMS THEMSELVES. UM AND SO
THE ATTEMPT HERE IS TO TRY AND
TO LOOK INTO THIS ISSUE AND HAVE
THE PUC DO A STUDY. UM ON YOU
KNOW HOW HOW THE UTILITY MAY
HAVE MATERIALLY ALTERED THE
VALUE OF ITS STOCK. UM AND. YOU
KNOW, CERTAINLY, THAT CAN BE THE
BASIS FOR US, MAYBE DOING
FURTHER POLICY IN THE FUTURE.
BUT AT FIRST, LET'S HAVE AN
ANALYSIS DONE OF WHAT MAY HAVE,
YOU KNOW, TRANSPARENT. WE KNOW
THE DIXIE FIRE TRANSPIRED SINCE
THAT TIME AND PG HAS BEEN FOUND
TO BE A CAUSE. YOU KNOW OF THAT
FIRE? UM SO THINGS LIKE THAT
WHERE THEY WERE THOSE THINGS OR
WERE THERE THINGS THAT WITHIN
THEIR PURVIEW? UH, THAT HAD THE
EFFECT OF UNDERMINING THE VALUE
OF THE OF THE TRUST. SO THAT'S
THE CRUX OF THIS BILL. WE'RE
TRYING TO GET AT THE HEART OF
THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE
VICTIMS GET YOU KNOW WHAT THEY
SETTLED FOR THE FULL VALUE OF
WHAT THEY SETTLED FOR, UM AND I
THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION OF HELPING TO
ENSURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE, SO
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE
FOR A B 22 SORRY, 22 83. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THERE ARE NO
SPEAKERS ORGANIZED PRESENTATION
. I SHOULD SAY. IN EITHER
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. SO GO
DIRECTLY TO THE GALLERY FOR ANY
SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT. THERE. IS
ANYONE PRESENT HERE IN SUPPORT.
IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO THE
MODERATOR. AND GO TO THE PHONE
LINES TO HEAR FROM SPEAKERS IN
SUPPORT OF A B 22 83. THANK YOU
, MR CHAIR. IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OF A B 22 83 PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME WHEN
FOLLOWED BY ZERO FOR SUPPORT.
AND OUR FIRST PARTICIPANT IS
LYING. 12, YOU ARE OPEN. WILL
ABRAMS WILDFIRE STARTS SURVIVOR
AND STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 22 83
THESE MUCH NEEDED INVESTIGATIONS
AND TO HELP YOU, JEANNIE UNDER
UNDERMINED THE FIRE VICTIMS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND ANY
OTHER SPEAKERS. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. WE'LL GO TO LINE 34, YOU
ARE OPEN. I LOVE THEM. HELLO.
YOU'RE WELL. HELLO. WE HEAR YOU.
I'M SORRY. UM MY NAME IS
VICTORIA. I'M A VICTIM OF THE
CAMPFIRE. AND I JUST LIKE TO SAY
THIS TRUST ME TO BE PAID IN FULL
FROM THE DAY OF THE FIRE AND
EVERY DAY AND NIGHT AFTERWARDS.
THOSE WHO CAUSED THE FIRE IN
CONSCIOUS, GREEDY NEGLECT AND
GONE HOME EVERY NIGHT AND EVERY
DAY THEY'VE GOTTEN TO GO HOME.
THOSE WHO ASKED THE MOST
RECEIVED THE LEAST. AND THOSE
WHO LOST NOTHING RECEIVED THE
MOST. I'M 62 YEARS OLD
INTENSIFIER. I'VE LIVED IN OTHER
PEOPLE'S HOMES AND A FEVER FROM
MOBILE AND NOW IN A TRAILER, BUT
CAÑADA PREPARES WITHOUT
RECEIVING THE FULL VALUE OF MY
CLAIM AWARDS CANNOT GET INTO A
HOUSE AGAIN WHEN THIS TRAILER
SALES WILL BE HOMELESS. BECAUSE
WE HAVE BEEN THE LAST IN MIND
FOR COMPENSATION, AND WE'VE
WAITED SO LONG FOR A SETTLEMENT
AMOUNT. OTHER PEOPLE HAVE USED
UP THEIR RETIREMENT FUNDS. FOUR
OH ONE KID'S COLLEGE FUND
INVESTMENTS AND SAVINGS JUST TO
LIVE. THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY
DESTROYED OR LARGE PART OLDER,
LOW INCOME WITH MEDICAL ISSUES
IN COLLEGE. WHEN WE DO RECEIVE
ANY AMOUNT FOR OUR CLAIMS, WE
LOSE UP TO 37% IN TAXES 20 TO
33% FOR ETERNITY AND DO THE
MATH. ONE LEFT. TOO MANY HAVE
NOT BEEN ABLE TO RENT, BUY OR
BUILD AND TOO MANY ARE LEFT WITH
AN UNKNOWN FUTURE BECAUSE OF
THIS THE LEAST THAT THESE
CRIMINALS CAN DO IS HONOR VERY
LITTLE AMOUNT THAT THEY CLAIMED
THEY WOULD COMPENSATE ALL OF US
WITH. BECAUSE ALL THE VICTIMS
SERVED GET TO GO HOME. THANK
YOU, MA'AM, AND WE ARE ASKING OF
THE SPEAKERS IN FAVOR TO LIMIT
THEIR COMMENTS TO THEIR NAME.
OTHER POSITION ON THE BILL AND
ANY AFFILIATION. THEY MAY HAVE.
MODERATOR, CAN YOU CONTINUE TO
QUÊ? SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OF A B
22 83. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF
YOU'RE ON SUPPORT ONE MORE TIME
OF A B 22 83, PLEASE PRESS 10.
AND WE'LL GO TO LINE 32 YOU ARE
OPEN. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
RICHARD LANE. I AM A TUBBS, FIRE
SURVIVOR AND A CLAIMANT IN THE
FIRE VICTIMS TRUST AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT A B 22 83 FIRE
. SURVIVORS NEED TO BE MADE
WHOLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
SIR. AND PLEASE. 45, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. 45 CAN YOU HEAR US?
YOU'RE OPEN. PLEASE. I'M YOU.
THAT'S YOU. 45 PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI. THIS IS ANGELA KAPPLER FROM
THE CAMPFIRE. I'M STRONGLY IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. I HOPE
THAT'S AN AUDIT WILL FIND THAT
WE SHOULD RECEIVE THE SAME DEAL
THAT THE BONDHOLDERS AND EQUITY
HOLDER TRADERS ALL RECEIVED. AND
I HOPE THAT THIS AUDIT WILL
BRING LIGHT TO THAT. NEXT
SPEAKER, PLEASE. 0.60 YOU ARE
OPEN. I KNOW MY NAME IS TINA
WRESTLER AND I'M A CAMPFIRE
SURVIVOR, AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF
A B 22 83. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER. MR CHAIR. WE DID
EXACTLY QUÊ. OKAY. THANK YOU.
NOW WE'LL GO TO SPEAKERS AND
OPPOSITION. DO WE HAVE ANY
SPEAKERS HERE IN THE GALLERY
THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION AT 22 83. IF NOT,
WE'LL GO TO THE PHONE LINES.
MODERATOR PLEASE ACCU SPEAKERS
IN OPPOSITION OF A B 22 83.
THANK YOU MUCH IF YOU'RE AN
OPPOSITION TO A B 22 83, PLEASE
PRESS 10. AND NOBODY IS QUEUING
UP MR CHAIR. FANTASTIC WILL COME
TO THE COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION
. SENATOR DODD, FOLLOWED BY
SENATOR GROWTH ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GALLAGHER. OBVIOUSLY I'VE HAD A
LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS ARE IN
THE SAME POSITION AS YOUR
CONSTITUENTS ARE GOING TO
SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY. I WORRY
, THOUGH, THAT THIS BILL IS
GOING TO CREATE EXPECTATIONS FOR
OUR MUTUAL CONSTITUENTS THAT
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BE ALL
AND END ALL IN. SOMEHOW THERE'S
GOING TO BE SOME SMOKING GUN
AND, UH MAYBE JUST THE IDEA THAT. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST DON'T
EVEN SEE HOW THIS FRANKLY GETS
ANYWHERE. BUT SINCE WE'VE GOT SO
MANY CONSTITUENTS ARE LEFT WITH
NOTHING, WE KIND OF OWE IT TO
THEM. TO MOVE THIS ALONG JUST TO
SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THERE.
BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT THAT
CREATING EXPECTATIONS FOR THEM.
I APPRECIATE YOU KNOW THAT WE
SHOULD BE SPENDING MORE TIME.
LIKE ON YOUR BILL, WHICH WOULD
REMOVE ANY TAX LIABILITY FROM
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, WHICH
I'M, A CO AUTHOR ON I APPRECIATE
YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT BILL.
ANOTHER THING WE OUGHT TO BE
DOING IS WORKING WITH OUR
RESPECTIVE HOUSES, SENATE AND
ASSEMBLY AND IN THE
ADMINISTRATION ON TRYING TO FIND
A WAY TO, UH YOU KNOW, INVEST,
YOU KNOW SO SOME STATE DOLLARS,
IT MIGHT MIGHT MAY NOT BE ABLE
TO MAKE THEM TOTALLY WHOLE. BUT
I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THERE
THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO
BETTER THAN WE'RE DOING RIGHT
NOW. SO, BUT I WILL BE
SUPPORTING YOUR BILL TODAY.
SENATOR GROUP. THANK YOU. I
THINK IT'S A TERRIFIC BILL. AND
I THINK THAT FOR YOU TO TAKE
INTO CONSIDERATION THE LOSS THAT
THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE SUFFERED
EVEN AFTER THE LOSS OF THEIR
HOME, THEIR PROPERTY AND THE
DEAL THAT WAS MADE WITH THE
INVESTMENT AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT
YOU SAID HALF CASH, HALF STOCK
IN THE STOCKS PLUMMETED. THEY
NEED TO BE MADE WHOLE. WE'VE GOT
A $95 BILLION BUDGET SURPLUS AND
THERE SHOULD BE RESOURCES OUT
THERE TO BE ALLOCATED TOWARDS
THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE LOST
EVERYTHING. AND SO I APPRECIATE
YOU BRINGING IT FORWARD AND, UM
AH! AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. I'D
LIKE TO MOVE THE BILL, BUT WE
STILL DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.
SENATOR DOLLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WORK IN THIS AREA. THIS
OBVIOUSLY AFFECTS BOTH OF OUR
CONSTITUENTS AND ALSO YOUR WORK
ON THE JUST THE COMMITTEE OF
OVERSIGHT WITH, UH ATTORNEYS IN
THE COST THAT THEY'RE RACKING
UP. THAT DOESN'T GO TO THE
VICTIMS AS WELL. SO I MEAN, THIS
IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE. THIS IS
A SMALL STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
WORK ON IT. THANK YOU. DID YOU
WANT TO MAKE CLOSING COMMENTS?
YEAH. JUST THANK YOU. SENATORS
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND,
YEAH, I MEAN AGAIN. ONE BIG PART
OF THE TAX EXEMPTION, WHICH IS
MOVING FORWARD. I THINK THAT
WOULD REALLY HELP A LOT, UM,
VICTIMS, BUT OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW
, ONLY THEY'VE ONLY BEEN PAID
ABOUT 45% OF WHAT THEY'RE OWED
BECAUSE OF THIS VERY ISSUE. UH
AND SO WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THEY GET
JUST WHAT THEY WERE PROMISED.
YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT VICTIMS
GET WHAT THEY WERE PROMISED IN
THE SETTLEMENT. AND THAT'S WHY I
THINK THIS BILL AND
INVESTIGATION IS IMPORTANT. UM
SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL WHEN IT COMES TIME
FOR ABOUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT AUTHOR
. WE HAVE ITEMS FIVE AND SIX BY
SIMILAR MEMBER GARCIA. MAYBE 25
87 IN THE FOLLOWED BY A V 29 26
96. LUZ RIVAS CHAIR AND
COLLEAGUES. A B 25 87
ACCELERATES THE DEVELOPMENT OF
EXPANSION AFFIRM RESOURCES NOT
TO PROVIDE RELIABILITY,
DIVERSITY AND RESILIENCY TO OUR
ELECTRICAL GRID. WE'RE HELPING
CALIFORNIA MEET ITS CLIMATE
CHANGE GOALS IS BILL ENJOYS
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
WITH ME HERE TO TESTIFY OR GENTS
MONEY JONES, REPRESENTING
INDEPENDENT ENERGY PRODUCERS AND
BE JOHN WHITE WITH THE CLEAN
POWER CAMPAIGN. AND YOU GET A
MINUTE AND A HALF EACH. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH CHANCE. MONEY.
JONES FROM THE INDEPENDENT, UH,
ENERGY PRODUCERS. WE'VE BEEN
BRINGING CLEAN POWER, RENEWABLE
ENERGY TO CALIFORNIA SINCE 1982
WERE A BIG SUPPORTER OF THIS
BILL, UM, CALIFORNIA'S, UH,
ELECTRICITY IS BASICALLY STACKED
ALONG FIRM ENERGY, INTERMEDIATE
ENERGY AND THEN PEKING ENERGY
FIRM ENERGY USED TO BE SUPPLIED
BY NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND COAL
PLANTS. THE COAL PLANTS HAVE
LARGELY BEEN RETIRED. AND MORE
AND MORE COMING IN THE WEST AND
AS HAVE THE NUKES, SO THE
QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE REPLACE
THEM WITH? SO WE HAVE
SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES OF
GEOTHERMAL AND BIOMASS IN THIS
STATE AS WELL AS OTHER, UM,
BASED LOAD RESOURCES THAT CAN
THEY CAN FILL THAT GAP AND
BASICALLY PROVIDE ELECTRICITY.
24 7, SO WE'RE JUST STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL WE
ENCOURAGE AND I VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. MR VIGEN WHITE. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS JOHN
WHITE WITH THE CLEAN POWER
CAMPAIGN. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL BECAUSE WE SHARE THE
VIEW THAT WE NEED A BALANCED
PORTFOLIO THAT'S BALANCED
GEOGRAPHICALLY, TECHNOLOGICALLY
, AND A COMBINATION OF RESOURCES
NEEDED BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING
NOW IS RUNNING THE GRIP. MOSTLY
WITH RENEWABLES, AND THAT MEANS
WE HAVE TO CHOOSE THE RENEWABLES
IN THE CLEAN ENERGY AND THE
STORAGE. WITH THAT WORK IN MIND
. IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST TO BE
GREEN, RIGHT? WHAT WE NEED IS
THE RESOURCES TO DO THE WORK OF
THE GRID. AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED
A BALANCED PORTFOLIO. AND THAT'S
WHY THIS, UH, MODEST BILL IS A
VERY IMPORTANT ADDITION TO OUR
STRATEGY. WE ASKD FOR AN I
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE HERE IN THE GALLERY IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. YES. JULIE
MELON ASKYB ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA BIOMASS ENERGY
ALLIANCE AND SUPPORT. RYAN
MCCARTHY ON BEHALF OF FORM
ENERGY AND SUPPORT. OKAY WE'LL
GO TO THE PHONE LINES NOW.
MODERATOR, PLEASE QUÊ SPEAKERS
AND SUPPORT OF A B 25 87. WE ASK
THAT THEY LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS
TO THEIR NAME, THEIR POSITION
AND ANY AFFILIATION THEY MIGHT
HAVE. THANKS MR CHAIR IF YOU
AREN'T SUPPORTIVE AB 25 87
PLEASE PRESS 10. LINE. 61,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MEG SNYDER ON
BEHALF OF MAINSPRING, ENERGY AND
SUPPORT. LINE 44 YOU ARE OPEN.
ANYBODY ELSE GOING TO HIT 10? IF
YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF A B 25 87
GO AHEAD, 44. HI. MY NAME IS
ALISON HILLIARD AND I'MCALLING
IN SUPPORT OF A V 2587 FROM WISE
WOULD AND THE MICRO GRID
RESOURCES COALITION. THANK YOU.
MR CARE. WE HAD NO OTHER
PARTICIPANTS CURE. OKAY WELL,
NOW GO TO SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION
. WE DON'T HAVE AN ORGANIZED
PRESENTATION. OPPOSITION DO WE
HAVE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. TO A B 25 87. WE'LL
GO TO THE PHONE LINES. MODERATOR
CAN YOU PLEASE QUÊ SPEAKERS AND
OPPOSITION OF 25 87 IF THEY CAN
LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THEIR
NAME AFFILIATION? AND THEIR
POSITION ON THE BILL. THANK YOU
IF YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION TO A B 25 87 PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME, FOLLOWED
BY ZERO. NOBODY IS KILLING UP MR
CHAIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW
WE'LL COME BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. IF THERE ARE ANY, UH
, SENATOR BECKER? YES I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR HIS WORK ON
THIS. IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.
I'D ASK TO BE ADDED AS A CO
AUTHOR AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO BUILD
CLEAN FASTER AND BUILD. MORE
TRANSMISSION WILL NEVER HIT OUR
GOALS AND THIS WILL HELP US DO
THAT, AND I'LL MOVE THE ABILITY
APPROPRIATE TIME. FANTASTIC
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I THINK
I'M GONNA CO AUTHOR TOO. BUT IN
CASE I'M NOT IF YOU COULD ADD ME
AS A CO AUTHOR. WITH THIS BILL,
AND IF THERE ARE DID YOU WANT TO
MAKE COMMENTS? JUST ONE QUICK
COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD. WE REALLY DO
APPRECIATE IT. IT'S A COMMON
SENSE MEASURE. THANK YOU ANYONE
ELSE? SIMILAR MEMBERS THAT YOU
WANT TO MAKE CLOSING COMMENTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN
COOPERATING, AND WE WELCOME UH,
YOURSELF AND ANY OTHER SENATORS.
I BELIEVE THE TRANSMISSION HAS
TO BE DONE DIFFERENTLY HERE IN
CALIFORNIA FOR PURPOSES OF
RELIABILITY AND ACHIEVING MANY
OF THE AMBITIOUS GOALS THAT
WE'VE ALREADY ADOPTED HERE IN
THE STATES OR RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, AND AT THE RIGHT TIME ONCE
WE ESTABLISH AQUARIUM WILL TAKE
ACTION ON THE BILL WILL MOVE ON
TO THAT ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX A.
B 26 96 RELATED TO ELECTRICITY
TRANSMISSION FACILITIES STUDY.
PLEASE PROCEED. MR ASSEMBLY BILL
WOULD DIE TASK TO CC IN
CONSULTATION WITH OTHER AGENCIES
TO CONDUCT A STUDY TO EXPLORE
TENTATIVE FUNDING MECHANISMS. UH
WE KNOW THAT THE STATE HAS
TREMENDOUS EFFORTS UNDERWAY TO
MEETING OUR RENEWABLE ENERGY
GOALS CLOSER WE GET TO 2045
DEADLINE, THE MORE DIFFICULT WE
KNOW THOSE GOALS WILL BE SO
THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL GO TO
I UNDERSTAND. YOU ALSO HAVE THE
JOHN WHITE AND JOHN SMITH
NATURES WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON
THIS BILL AS WELL. YEAH BRIEFLY.
MEMBERS UH, THANK YOU. JOHN
WHITE WITH THE CLEAN POWER
CAMPAIGN. THE COST OF
TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT'S HELD US BACK FROM
BUILDING WHAT WE NEED TO BUILD.
AND SO THIS BILL WOULD STUDY HOW
CAN WE BUILD AND FINANCE
TRANSMISSION WERE CHEAPLY
INEXPENSIVELY WITH CREATIVE
PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS,
COOPERATION WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. IT'S A MODEST BILL,
BUT AN IMPORTANT BUILDING BLOCK
FOR OUR CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE. WE
ASKED FOR AN I VOTE. THE
ELECTRIC SECTOR HAS BEEN VERY
SUCCESSFUL AND REDUCING ITS
CARBON FOOTPRINT, WHICH WAS IN
2000 AND EIGHT WAS ABOUT 23%
IT'S NOW BELOW 14% AND HEADED
HEADED DOWN. AS CALIFORNIA MOVES
TO BASICALLY DE CARBONIZED THE
OTHER ELECTRICITY SECTORS WE
NEED TO TRIPLE TRIPLE THE AMOUNT
OF ELECTRICITY WE ARE ABLE TO
PRODUCE AND TRANSPORT AROUND
CALIFORNIA. SO THE
TRANSPORTATIONS THAT
TRANSMISSION SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE
LOOKED AT AS SORT OF THE
INTERSTATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM TO
MOVE ELECTRONS IS EXCEEDINGLY
IMPORTANT. AND TRYING TO COME UP
WITH WITH THE VARIOUS MECHANISMS
WORSE TO MAKE SURE THAT
TRANSMISSION GETS BUILT QUICKLY
AND AS AFFORDABLE AS POSSIBLE.
SO THIS BILL DOES LOOK AT
ALTERNATIVE WAYS OF FINANCING
TRANSMISSION, WHICH WILL
HOPEFULLY LOWER COST. I WOULD
ENCOURAGED THIS COMMITTEE AND
THE LEGISLATORS HOLE. THIS IS
NOT ENOUGH WE NEED WE HAVE A LOT
OF TRANSMISSION AND NEEDS TO GET
BUILT. AND THAT MEANS THAT WE
NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE BASICALLY
PLAN AND BASICALLY BUILD THESE
THINGS AND APPROVED THEM IN THE
VARIOUS AGENCIES. BUT THIS IS A
REALLY GOOD FIRST STEP. AND WE
WHOLEHEARTEDLY ENCOURAGE YOU AND
I VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WE'RE GOING TO
INTERRUPT THE DISCUSSION JUST TO
ESTABLISH A QUORUM ONLY CLERK.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. PRESENT
PRESENT DOLLY DOLLY! HERE!
BECKER BECKER HERE. MORE GIS!
BRADFORD DODD HERE, EGGMAN.
GONZALEZ. GROVE GROVE HERE,
HERZBERG MCGUIRE MCGUIRE. HERE.
MEN MEN HERE, RUBIO. RUBIO,
PRESIDENT STERN. WE HAVE A
QUORUM WILL MOVE FORWARD
DISCUSSION WILL GO TO SPEAKERS
IN THE GALLERY AND SUPPORT OF 26
96 JULIE MALINOWSKI BABA HALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA BIOMASS ENERGY
ALLIANCE AND SUPPORT PATRICK
WELSH WITH THE CALIFORNIA
MUNICIPAL UTILITIES ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'LL GO TO THE PHONE LINES NOW.
MODERATOR PLEASE QUÊ SPEAKERS IN
SUPPORT OF A B 26 96 WE ASK THAT
THE LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO
THEIR POSITION ON THE BILL.
THEIR NAME AND ANY AFFILIATION
THEY MIGHT HAVE. MODERATOR, ARE
YOU THERE? SORRY MR CHAIR WAS
MUTED TALKING TO MYSELF. I
APOLOGIZE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY, PLEASE PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZERO AT THIS TIME
LINE. 66, YOU ARE OPEN. PLEASE
GO AHEAD. 66. AND THIS IS
SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ, CALIFORNIA.
YOU HAVE CUT OUT ENVIRONMENT.
AND THIS IS SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ
WITH CALIFORNIA. AND NOW WE'RE
BACK TO. I THINK YOU HAVE A BAD
CONNECTION, MY FRIEND. WE'RE
GOING TO MOVE ON TO LINE 55,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THIS IS WRAPPED
DENNIS ON BEHALF OF 3 50 BAY
AREA ACTION AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. LINE 67 YOU ARE OPEN. HELLO
AND BERTHA. HOW WAS THREATENED
PRICE CONSULTING ON BEHALF OF
THE AMERICAN QUEEN POWER
ASSOCIATION AND THE
ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND IN
SUPPORT. AND AS A FINAL REMINDER
, PLEASE PRESS 10 IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OF 26 96, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. 66. AND THIS IS SANTIAGO
RODRIGUEZ, CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS AND SUPPORT
AND MR CHAIR. THERE ARE NO OTHER
PARTICIPANTS. CUTE OUT. OKAY,
WELL, NOW COME TO THE GALLERY.
FOR ANY SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION
. MAYBE 26 96. MR CHAIR MEMBERS.
LILY MORECAMBE HAVE SD JEANNIE.
WE ARE NOT OFFICIALLY AN
OPPOSITION MORE BETWEEN OUR
POSITION. WE DID WANT TO JUST
DRAW ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT
WE DRAFTED A LETTER OF CONCERN
TO THE COMMITTEE THAT THE FOR
1000 FINANCING ORDER ALREADY
ALLOWS FOR COST FINANCING
OPTIONS, AS WELL AS A COST
SAVING OPTIONS FOR TRANSMISSION
PLANNERS. SO WE JUST WE
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A STUDY
WILL WE COMPLETELY APPRECIATE
THE COMMITTEE'S WORK ON IT AND
THE AUTHOR'S WORK ON IT, BUT
JUST WANTED TO DRIVE. UM
CONCERNED ABOUT THE VALUE OF THE
STUDY RESULTS SIMPLY BECAUSE CBC
DOES NOT HAVE, UM, JURISDICTION
OVER FOR PROCESSES, SO THANK YOU
AND CONTINUE TO HOPE TO WORK
WITH EVERYBODY. BUT THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME. DO WE HAVE ANYONE
ELSE? OKAY WE'LL GO TO THE PHONE
LINES NOW. MODERATOR CAN YOU
PLEASE QUÊ SPEAKERS IN IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 26 96? IF YOU
COULD PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS
TO YOUR NAME. ANY AFFILIATION IN
YOUR POSITION ON THE BILL. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU ARE IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 26 96, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED BY 01,
FOLLOWED BY A ZERO. MR CHAIR.
NOBODY IS QUEUING UP. OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WILL NOW
COME TO THE COMMITTEE. ANYONE.
SENATOR BECKER WILL MOVE THIS
ONE AS WELL. AND THIS IS
SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WORKING ON
WITH THE AUTHOR. ONE THANK HIM
FOR HIS WORK ON THIS GONNA MAKE
SURE MY CO AUTHOR ON THIS ONE AS
WELL. I APPRECIATE AND MOVE
FORWARD. MOVE IT AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU.
ANOTHER GOOD BILL. DID YOU WANT
TO MAKE CLOSING COMMENTS? THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND COLLEAGUES.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR ABLE.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE
BILL? SENATOR BECKER MAKES A
MOTION THE MOTION. JUST. TO
CLARIFY THE MOTION IS TO PASS
THE APPROPRIATIONS. CLERK.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAYBE 26
96 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA DO
PASTOR APPROPRIATIONS WHISTLE?
BYE BYE, DOLLY! DOLLY! I BECKER
BECKER. I BORE GIS. BRADFORD
DODD, NOT I EGGMAN GONZALES.
GROVE GROVE. AYE. HERTZBERG
MCGUIRE. MCGUIRE I'M IN MY RUBIO
RUBIO ICE TURN. 88 ENOUGH VOTES
TO GET OUT. BUT WE'LL HOLD THE
ROLL OPEN. PERHAPS SOME MEMBERS,
I WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON
A B 25 87. WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR RUBIO CLERK. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. SPEND THE MOTION JUST
TO CLARIFY AS TO PRESS DO PASS
WHISTLE. I DALI DALI, I BECKER
BECKER. I BORE GIS. BRADFORD
DODD DIED. I EGGMAN GONZALES
GROVE. GROVE I HRZBERG MCGUIRE
MAGUIRE. I'M IN MEN. I RUBIO
RUBIO. I STERN FEET, BOATS.
OKAY. THE BILL HAS ENOUGH VOTES
TO GET OUT WILL HOLD THE ROLL
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS WERE
WAITING FOR SOME PRESENTERS FROM
AUTHORS. YEAH, WE WILL. BUT I
JUST WANT TO ESTABLISH WHERE SO
WE'RE GONNA UM, GO BACK TO ITEM
NUMBER THREE. MAYBE 2083. WE HAD
A FULL DISCUSSION ON THAT BILL.
WE HAVE A MOTION. BY SENATOR
DOLLY. AH THE MOTION IS, UH, DO
PASS. A AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS CLERK. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. 82 083. BYE BYE,
BAUER-KAHAN. WHISTLE. I KNOW I
DALI DALI. I BECKER GORGEOUS.
BRADFORD DODD DODD? AYE, EGGMAN
GONZALEZ GROVE. GROVE. I
HERZBERG MCGUIRE. MEN. MINHAI
RUBIO VúI STERN. THESE COMMENTS
ABSENT MEMBERS AGAIN, MCGUIRE
AYE. OKAY? THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL
GO TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MAYBE 20
TO 83 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GALLAGHER. WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SOME SENATOR DOLLY CLERK AND THE
MOTION. IS. AH DO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS CLERK. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. MAYBE 20 TO 83 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GALLAGHER
HUESO. I KNOW I DALI DALI. I
BECKER BECKER. I BARGES.
BRADFORD DODD DOT I EGGMAN
GONZALEZ GROVE. GROVE. I
HERZBERG MCGUIRE MAGUIRE. I'M IN
MY RUBIO RUBIO ICE TURN. THANK
YOU. NOW WE HAVE AN AUTHOR. UH
ITEM NUMBER 8 27 03 BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER MURATSUCHI WELCOME, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR SHERMAN
SENATORS. I'M HERE TO PRESENT A
B 2703. WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION TO
DEVELOP A PLAN TO PROVIDE
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR
ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING BY LOW
INCOME DRIVERS. AND THOSE WHO
RESIDE IN DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. THIS BILL WILL ALSO
REQUIRE THE C E C TO ESTABLISH
RELIABILITY STANDARDS FOR EV
CHARGERS THAT RECEIVES STATE
FUNDS. I WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS FIRST
SUGGESTED AMENDMENT TO CONFORM
THE DEFINITIONS OF UPTIME
DOWNTIME AND EXCLUDED TIME WITH
UM, A B 2061. AND SECOND AFTER
DISCUSSIONS WITH YOUR COMMITTEE
STAFF, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMIT TO
WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE ON
LANGUAGE OF THIS SPECIFIC
PROGRAM CRITERIA. IN SECTION ONE
OF THE BILL AS OUTLINED ON PAGE
FIVE OF YOUR COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
. I HAVE TWO WITNESSES TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
. MARKET PRAYER WITH CHARGE
POINT THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL.
OR END KAREN SUAREZ WITH THE
MAKING HOPE HAPPEN FOUNDATION.
THANK YOU. WELCOME, MR CHAIR.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. GOOD
MORNING. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE
HERE. IN SUPPORT OF THIS
MEASURE. WE WANT TO THANK
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MURATSUCHI AND
ALL THE CO AUTHORS. WE ALSO WANT
TO THANK THE CHAIR OF THIS
COMMITTEE AND YOUR STAFF FOR ALL
THE HELP AND GOOD ANALYSIS. UM
WE'RE HERE TODAY TO SHARE A
COMMON GOAL OF CALIFORNIA'S
TRANSITION TO A ZERO EMISSION
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, BUT IT
CAN ONLY BE CALLED A SUCCESS. IF
EVERYBODY JOINS IN. IT IS NOT
JUST FOR ONE SEGMENT OF SOCIETY
, BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO
PARTICIPATE. EVEN INFRASTRUCTURE
NEEDS TO BE CONVENIENT. RELIABLE
EASY TO EASY, EASILY OPERABLE
ACCESSIBLE IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS
FOR ALL DRIVERS POTENTIAL AND
CURRENT. A B AS THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER MENTIONED 27 03 SEEKS TO
DO TWO THINGS. ONE IS TO REQUIRE
RELIABILITY STANDARDS SO THAT
WHEN DRIVERS ARRIVE AT A E V
CHARGING STATION THEY KNOW THAT
IT IS A RELIABLE DEVICE AND CAN
AND ARE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR TRIP
AS PLANNED. SECOND AS THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA. INVESTS IN PUBLIC
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU KNOW
THAT YOUR YOUR DOLLARS ARE ARE
WORKING PROPERLY. SECOND IS TO
ALSO PROVIDE FINANCIAL
ASSISTANCE TO THOSE WHO ARE
UNABLE. TO CHARGE AND TO, UH TO,
UH, OPERATE AN E V A PROPERLY
THAT THEY HAVE FINANCIAL
ASSISTANCE. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR EYE BOAT. THANK YOU NOW
IS KAREN SUAREZ BELIEVE SHE'S
YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING. KAREN FLORES
, DIRECTOR OF UPLIFT SAMMARTINO
, A COLLECTIVE IMPACT INITIATIVE
OR THE MAKING HOPE HAPPEN.
FOUNDATION I'D LIKE TO TAKE
THANK ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
MURATSUCHI AND ALL OF THE
COOPER'S BABY TO 703. I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I VOTE
ON THIS MEASURE AS PREVIOUSLY
MENTIONED, IN ADDITION TO
CREATING A RELIABILITY STANDARDS
REQUIRES THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM
TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE
FOR INDIVIDUALS. IN DISADVANTAGE
OR WHAT WE CALL PRIORITY
NEIGHBORHOODS TO CHARGE THEIR
ELECTRIC VEHICLES. EXISTING TV
INFRASTRUCTURE IS LEX ACCESSIBLE
FOR PRIORITY POPULATIONS,
PARTICULARLY IN OUR DISINVESTED
NEIGHBORHOOD. IN SAN BERNARDINO
RESIDENTS AND OLDER MULTI FAMILY
DWELLINGS DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO
CHARGING AND THOSE THAT HAVE
LIVED HERE FOR GENERATIONS AND
MAY OWN OR RENT A HOME. THEY
HAVE OLDER HOUSING STUFF THAT
WOULD REQUIRE COSTLY UPDATES AND
REPAIRS AS ORIGINAL INDIVIDUALS
WHO WANT AND HAVE TVS MUST RELY
MORE ON PUBLIC CHARGING AT
RETAIL LOCATION. WHILE OTHER
PROGRAMS PROVIDE FINANCIAL
ASSISTANCE TO LOW INCOME
INDIVIDUALS FOR EASY, CHARGING
THAT FINANCIAL AID IS LIMITED TO
CERTAIN PARTS OF THE STATE
OVERSUBSCRIBED AND DELIVERED ON
ONE E V CHARGING NETWORK. THE
VITAL DIFFERENTIATOR IN THIS
BILL IS THAT THE PROGRAM WILL
MAKE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE
AVAILABLE THROUGH A RELOADABLE
PAYMENT CARD THAT HAS BOTH A AND
B CHIP AND CONTACT WITH
CAPABILITIES. THAT MEANS THAT
THE INDIVIDUALS CAN USE THIS
PAYMENT CARD ANYWHERE, NOT JUST
ONE EVIE CHARGING COMPANY AT A
TIME. THAT IS PARTICIPATING IN
THE PROGRAM. INCOME FAMILIES ARE
CREATIVELY ACCESSING EVEN
HAMBURGER, DO YOU KNOW AND THEY
NEED MORE ACCESS TO PUBLIC
CHARGING THIS MEASURE WILL
BENEFIT ADVANTAGE NEIGHBORHOODS
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.
ESPECIALLY LOWER INCOME
RESIDENTS THAT KEPT HUNDREDS OF
MILES EACH WEEK OUT OF OUR CITY
FOR WORK AND PROVIDES THEM AN
OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO FEEL
AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE. THANK YOU
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS FOR IVO ON
A B 27. OH, THREE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY WE'LL
GO TO SPEAKERS AND SUPPORT HERE
FROM THE GALLERY. THANK YOU.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS READ AT US ON
BEHALF OF THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGING ASSOCIATION AND CAL
START IN SUPPORT TODAY. THANK
YOU. JULIE MAN ASKED ABOUT ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION
COALITION AND SUPPORT ANYONE
ELSE AND SUPPORT WILL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES. MODERATOR, CAN YOU
PLEASE ACCUSE SPEAKERS? IN
SUPPORT OF A B 27 03. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 27 03, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
FOLLOWED BY 01 FALL BY ZERO AT
THIS TIME. 9 37, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS JASON. I GOT ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY CHOICE ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT OF THE BILL AND
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR HAVING
WORKED WITH US TO ADDRESS A
HANDFUL OF LITTLE ISSUES IN A
MINUTE. THANK YOU NEXT PEOPLE.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR WILL GIVE
ONE MORE REMINDER. IF YOU'RE IN
SUPPORT OF 27 03, PLEASE PRESS
10 LINE 19, YOU ARE OPEN. GOOD
MORNING THAT THIS IS KATHY
SCHAEFER ON BEHALF OF THE CENTER
SAN FERNANDO VALLEY CLIMATE
REALITY PROJECT IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. MR CHAIR. NO OTHER
PARTICIPANTS HAVE QUEUED UP.
OKAY WE'LL GO TO SPEAKERS IN
OPPOSITION. ANYONE IN THE
GALLERY? IN OPPOSITION TO 27 03.
WE'LL GO TO THE PHONE LINES.
MODERATOR, POLICE QUÊ SPEAKERS
IN OPPOSITION OF A B 27 03.
THANK YOU. IF YOU ARE IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 27 03 PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME WHEN
FOLLOWED BY ZERO 0.66 YOU ARE
OPEN. THIS IS SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ
WITH CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
VOTERS WERE ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL, AND I THINK I
MISSED THE CALL WOMEN. AND WE'LL
GIVE ONE MORE REMINDER IF YOU
ARE TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF 27
03, PLEASE PRESS 10 OPPOSITION
WERE IN OPPOSITION NOW. USE ME
IF YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION TO A B
27 03, PLEASE PRESS 1010 FOR
OPPOSITION. AND NOBODY HAS
QUEUED UP. OKAY VERY WELL WILL
COME TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
DISCUSSION. UH SENATOR MEN,
FOLLOWED BY SENATOR DODD,
FOLLOWED BY SENATOR RUBIO. THANK
YOU SO MUCH MEMBER. I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE GOAL OF THIS BILL
. I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO
ENSURE THAT THE SUBSIDIES WILL
PROVIDING SIGNIFICANT SUBSIDIES
SUBSIDIES THAT WERE PROVIDING
INDIRECTLY FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. AH FOR ZERO
EMISSIONS VEHICLES ALSO FLOWED
DOWN TO LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES
. BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS TO
DO THAT. OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE
WHETHER THAT'S UPDATING ELECTRIC
CHARGING WITHIN RESIDENCES,
WHETHER THAT'S CREATING AND
SUBSIDIZING ELECTRIC CHARGING
STATIONS. I THINK THIS IS AN
INTERESTING IDEA CERTAINLY
APPLAUD THE MOTIVES. I DID HAVE
A FEW QUESTIONS I JUST WANTED. I
THINK THEY'RE MOSTLY
CLARIFICATIONS. AH I GUESS THE
FIRST ONE IS WHAT? WHY WHAT WAS
WHY DID YOU NOT TAKE THE SECOND
AMENDMENT? AND? AND CAN YOU
EXPLAIN HOW YOU SEE THAT
PROCEEDING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
UH, WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE
ON CREATING LANGUAGE TO THIS
EFFECT. THANK YOU, SENATOR. I
BELIEVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT
WOULD HAVE DELETED THE.
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. UM
RATHER THAN DELETING IT. AS YOU
JUST INDICATED. I THINK YOU
KNOW, IN ORDER FOR CALIFORNIA
TOO. REACHES GOAL OF 100% OF
PASTURE EVEY SALES BY 2035. WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE,
UH YOU KNOW THE ACCESS TO THE
ZEV ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES IN
ALL COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING WHAT
ARE SUPPORTED WITNESS CALLED OUR
PRIORITY COMMUNITIES, MAKING
SURE THAT SELVES ARE ACCESSIBLE
IN ALL COMMUNITIES. AND TO THAT
EXTENT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO WORK
WITH THIS. COMMITTEE AND THE
STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN
FIND A IMMEDIATELY AGREEABLE
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO
MAKE MEAT THAT I WANT TO SEE IF
MR PRAYER HAS ANYTHING TO ADD.
CENTER MEN. VERY GOOD QUESTION
AND THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS ASK A
GOOD QUESTION THAT THERE BE
GREATER SPECIFICITY AS TO WHO IS
ELIGIBLE UNDER WHAT
CIRCUMSTANCES AND IN WHAT
AMOUNTS AND WE'VE AGREED TO WORK
WITH THE COMMITTEE TO ENSURE
THAT THERE IS SPECIFICITY ON
THAT, AS THIS BILL MAKES ITS WAY
ONTO THE NEXT COMMITTEE. I
APPRECIATE THAT. THIS IS THE
SECOND QUESTIONS RELATED, THEN
THAT COULD BE FOR EITHER OF YOU
IN SO I SEE. WE HAVE A LETTER
FROM CHARGE POINT THAT WAS
INCLUDING MY MATERIALS THAT
INDICATES THAT THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER ASKED FOR $11.2 MILLION
FROM THIS UPCOMING BUDGET TO
PROVIDE WHAT I THINK IS ABOUT
$1000 PER PERSON FOR SLIGHTLY
OVER 10,000 XAF DRIVERS. IS THAT
THE ANTICIPATED COSTS YOU
EXPECTING? WOULD THIS BE $1000
ANNUALLY? WOULD IT BE ONGOING?
WHAT WHAT IS, YOU KNOW,
PARTICULARLY AS WE TALK ABOUT,
YOU KNOW IF THE GOAL HERE IS TO
INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN
ELECTRIC VEHICLES, PROVIDING
THEM WITH $1000 A YEAR WOULD
PRESUMABLY GROW PRETTY
DRAMATICALLY IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL
IN GETTING MORE PEOPLE IN
DESERVES, WHAT DO YOU
ANTICIPATE? THIS COSTING ON AN
ONGOING BASIS. DO WE HAVE ANY
ANALYSIS? AND IS THIS SOMETHING
THAT YOU WOULD? IT DOESN'T
LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW, JUST TO BE
CLEAR, CREATE AN ONGOING
LIABILITY FOR THE STATE, OR IS
IT ONE TIME I WOULD, UH. UH SAY
THAT WE NEED TO START SOONER
RATHER THAN LATER IN TERMS OF
PROVIDING INCENTIVES, MAKING
SURE THAT'S EVS ARE ACCESSIBLE
TO ALL COMMUNITIES. MR PRAYER.
DID YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC
SENATOR MEN THROUGH THE CHAIR?
THE BARRIER TO ENTRY IS
PARTICULARLY ACUTE IN MULTI UNIT
DWELLINGS, UH AND IN LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES WHERE A LOW INCOME
INDIVIDUAL HAS SORT OF TWO
STRIKES AGAINST THEM IN
ACQUIRING AN E V. NUMBER ONE.
THERE'S NOT THE CONVENIENCE OF
CHARGING AT HOME IF THERE ISN'T
AN E V CHARGING STATION. THERE
AND WHILE WE AND OTHERS HAVE
SOUGHT TO BREAK INTO THAT
MARKETPLACE, IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH
CHALLENGE. AND SO THIS IS
DESIGNED TO BE A BRIDGE TO THAT
NUMBER ONE NUMBER TWO IS
CHARGING IN THE PUBLIC IS MORE
EXPENSIVE. THAN CHARGING AT HOME
, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT
A SOME FORM OF FINANCIAL
ASSISTANCE. THIRD QUESTION TO
3RD 3RD POINT ON YOUR QUESTION
IS THIS IS DESIGNED TO SEE IT.
WHAT IF THIS IS GOING TO WORK?
AND IF IT DOES WORK, THEN WE'LL
SEE WHERE WE GO WHERE WE GO
NEXT. IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE. A
PERMANENT PROGRAM, BUT RATHER
FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT
DOES THIS WORK AND HOW DOES IT
NEED TO BE MODIFIED? DO JUST
CONCLUDED THE FEW THOUGHTS AND I
WILL VOTE FOR THIS TODAY BECAUSE
I WANT TO GIVE YOU TIME TO WORK
ON THIS, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT THE LACK OF DETAILS. AND
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCARCE
DOLLARS, I'M NOT EXPECTING THAT
THE BUDGET SURPLUS WE HAVE THIS
YEAR WILL CONTINUE GOING FORWARD
FOR THE REST OF MY TIME IN THE
SENATE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE
WE'RE JUDICIOUS WITH HOW WE
ALLOCATE THESE DOLLARS AND YOU
KNOW, IT DOES STRIKE ME THAT
THIS COULD BE STRUCTURED OR
CHARACTERIZED AS MEMBERS A
SUBSIDY TO PRIVATE CHARGING
STATIONS OR PRIVATE SEARCHING
STATION COS. ANOTHER WAY WE
COULD USE THAT MONEY WOULD BE TO
POTENTIALLY FUND OR SUBSIDIZE
THE REJIGGERING OF, UM THE MULTI
FAMILY RESIDENCES WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT, OR THE ANTIQUATED
ELECTRIC SYSTEMS WE HAVE. THAT
MIGHT BE ANOTHER WAY THAT WE
COULD GET LOWER INCOME DRIVERS
INTO ELECTRIC VEHICLES. SO I'M
INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THIS
WORKS, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS. I
ALSO WILL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW IF
I'M THINKING ABOUT BUYING AN
ELECTRIC VEHICLE $1000.01 TIME.
ELECTRIC CARD IS NOT GOING TO
INCENTIVIZE ME TO DO THAT,
UNLESS I KNOW THERE'S SOME
CERTAINTY THAT THIS WILL BE
AROUND FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.
SO I THINK WE YOU I WOULD JUST
SAY I WILL RESERVE THE RIGHT TO
NOT VOTE FOR THIS ON THE FLOOR.
I DO WANT TO SEE THOSE DETAILS,
BUT I WANT TO SEE YEAH. I WANT
TO GIVE YOU TIME TO WORK ON THIS
WITH OUR COMMITTEE AND OTHERS.
WELL THANK YOU, SENATOR. I
APPRECIATE AS ALWAYS YOUR
THOROUGH ANALYSIS IN YOUR
THOUGHTFULNESS THAT I WANT TO
REMIND YOU THAT THERE IS NO
OPPOSITION ON THIS BILL AT THIS
POINT, BUT WILL MAKE SURE THAT
WE ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS. UM YOU
KNOW, I HAD PREVIOUSLY AUTHORED
BILLS TO ALLOW FOR APARTMENT
DWELLERS TO INSTALL. AH CHARGING
APPLIANCES CHARGING STATIONS. UM
YOU KNOW? IN THEIR APARTMENT
GARAGES, BUT AND, YOU KNOW, AS
AS YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE EXISTING
PROGRAMS THAT DO PROVIDE
SUBSIDIES. FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE
FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES. BUT
WE'VE GOT TO GOD WILL GO TO
SENATOR DOT NOW I APPRECIATE THE
INTENT OF THIS BILL. I'M GONNA
VOTE FOR IT TO ALLOW TO MOVE
FORWARD. BUT I'M GONNA HIJACK
THIS OPERA TO THIS, UH, BILL TO
TALK ABOUT RELIABILITY, MR. A
PRAYER. YOU TALKED ABOUT
RELIABLE, RELIABLE SYSTEMS WHY
WE WOULD EVER EVEN INSTALL 100
AND 10 VOLT. CHARGING SYSTEM
ANYWHERE IS BEYOND BELIEF TO ME
. WE'VE GOT THE MAJORITY OF THEM
IN THIS BUILDING ALONE. YOU
MIGHT GET SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1 TO
3 MPH AND YOU KNOW, EVEN CHARGE
POINT AND EVEN TESTS AS SOMEBODY
HAS DRIVEN ELECTRIC CAR NOW FOR
FIVE YEARS, IT IS MADDENING TO
ME WHERE YOU GO BUY SOME PLACE.
AND YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY YOU'VE
GOT ABOUT 80. MILES TO GO.
YOU'RE ABOUT OUT AND YOU GET
FIVE MILES TO THE HOUR. OR OR OR
IN THIS BUILDING. IT'S LIKE 123
. IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE LUCKY, AND
I JUST WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IF
WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THESE
THINGS OUT THERE AND INVESTING
IN THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO
DO. IS MAKE PEOPLE AGAIN. YOU'RE
RAISING EXPECTATIONS, BUT THEN
IT'S JUST NOT RELIABLE. THEY
CAN'T EVEN WAIT OR THEY'RE GOING
TO BE LATE FOR WORK OR LATE FOR
SCHOOL OR SOME OTHER THINGS
APOLOGIZE WITH THIS IS WHAT I'M
GOING TO DO ON EVERY SINGLE ONE
OF THESE BILLS. MOVING FORWARD.
WE JUST GOT TO DO BETTER.
SENATOR DODD. WE WOULD AGREE
WITH YOU THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE
THERE WAS CHARGING QUESTION
ASKED, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
SENATOR RUBIO AND I'M GOING TO
PASS THE GAVEL. TO CENTER, DOLLY
. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I GUESS
MY QUESTIONS WERE ALONG THE LINE
OF SENATOR. MEN UM, ABOUT AROUND
CLARITY, BECAUSE I ALSO I THINK
I HAD IN MY NOTES THAT SECTION
ONE WAS GOING TO BE DELETED AND
IT'S NOT. SO I THINK THROUGH.
THE BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION.
IT'S SORT OF BEING CLEAR THAT
YOU ARE KEEPING THE PROGRAM TO
PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO PRIORITY
POPULATIONS. AS YOU PUT IT,
CORRECT. I JUST I AM ALSO
CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T SEE THAT
IN THE BILL, AND SO WE'RE A
LITTLE UNSURE OF WHAT THAT'S
GOING TO LOOK IMPRINT. SO I LIKE
TO KNOW BEFOREHAND AS WELL. BUT
I WILL VOTE FOR JUST WITH THE
EXPECTATION THAT THEY WILL BE
MORE CLARITY WHEN IT COMES BACK
TO US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY UH, SENATOR GONZALEZ. I
THINK YOU HAVE A QUESTION. YES.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND THANK
YOU ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FOR
BRINGING IT FORWARD. I AM I'M ON
THE SAME TRACK WITH SENATOR DOT
IN TERMS OF THE REAL, YOU KNOW,
JUST THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE
FAST CHARGING. CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY FOR
PEOPLE THAT NEED IT THE MOST,
BUT I KNOW MANY OF THE DETAILS
AS WELL ON HOW THIS WOULD WORK
WILL BE WORKED OUT IN OUR
COMMITTEE AND SENATE
TRANSPORTATION, AND SO I LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON
THAT. TO ENSURE THAT THIS
ACTUALLY IS IMPLEMENTED IN A WAY
THAT TRULY TOUCHES THOSE THAT
NEED IT THE MOST. SO I LOOK
FORWARD TO THAT. AND I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL AS WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, SO DO
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS BILL?
WE HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR MEN.
SEEING NO OTHER AND IT IS DO PAT
AMENDED AND DO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. NO
TRANSPORTATION, OKAY. CALL THE
ROLL, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? SORRY
REMEMBER? THANK YOU. I JUST WANT
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONCERNS
ABOUT GETTING MORE SPECIFICITY
SPECIFICITY IN IN TERMS OF THE
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. PART OF
OUR INTENT WAS TO TRY TO
COORDINATE IT WITH THE WITH THE
BUDGET ITEM, UH, TRYING NOT TO
BE TOO PROSPECT PRESCRIPTIVE. AH
BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY WORK OUT
THE DETAILS WITH THE SENATE
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND THE
CHAIR, RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR IT.
THANK YOU. WELL, THE CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU.
A B 2703 BY MURATSUCHI DO BEST
TO DO PASS TO BE AMENDED IN
TRANSPORTATION HUESO. DOLLY
DOLLY! NO! BECKER. BECKER I.
BURGESS BRADFORD DODD. DODD AYE.
EGGMAN GONZALES. GONZALES. I
GROVE GROVE. NO HERZBERG MCGUIRE
MAGUIRE. I'M IN MEN. I RUBIO
RUBIO. I STERN SIX. THAT BILL IS
WELL ON CALL. WE WILL HOLD IT
FOR THE MEMBERS TO SHOW BACK UP
. WE HAVE, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE,
WHICH WAS A B 2061. WE'VE HEARD
THE TESTIMONY. WE NEED A MOTION.
TWO I HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR
MAN WITH THE LERK. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. THIS IS DO PASS TO
TRANSPORTATION, TRANSPORTATION.
A B 2061 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
TEAM DO PASS TO TRANSPORTATION.
HUESO DOLLY! DOLLY! I BECKER
BECKER I BARGES, BRADFORD DODD.
DOT I EGGMAN GONZALES. GONZALES
I GROVE GROVE I HERZBERG MCGUIRE
MAGUIRE. I'M IN MEN. I RUBIO
RUBIO ICE TURN. BILL HAS EIGHT
VOTES. WE'LL LEAVE IT ON CALL
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. AND WE ARE
GOING NOW TO. BILE ITEM. SEVEN A
B 2700 BY SENATOR
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MCCARTHY. GOOD
TO SEE YOU. I WOULD JUST FOR
REAL QUICK. I WANTED TO LET
THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE,
PARTICIPATING, TOLL FREE NUMBER
AND ACCESS CODE. IS POSTED ON
THE COMMITTEE WEBSITE. I WILL
ANNOUNCE IT NOW AND JUST WANT TO
REITERATE ITS 1844291. AND THE
ACCESS CODE IS 5768138. THANK
YOU. YOU MAY PROCEED. I WAS
SAYING SENATORS, OKAY? JUST
DON'T CALL ME CONGRESS MEMBER
MCCARTHY. YEAH. YES THANK YOU,
MR VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS. UM
THIS SOMEONE HAS A FOLLOW UP TO
THE BILL. WE JUST HEARD TALKING
ABOUT OUR STATE'S AMBITIOUS
CLIMATE GOALS AND ADOPTING ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA. AND A BIG PIECE OF
THE PUZZLE. OF COURSE, THE
VEHICLES CHARGING STATIONS BUT
ALSO THE ENERGY TO MAKE SURE
THAT ALL WORKS, AND SO IF WE'RE
GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A GLOBAL
LEADER IN TACKLING CLIMATE
CHANGE, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN OUR
AIR QUALITY AND EMISSIONS
STANDARDS. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON
THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR PIECE
OF, UM, THE ENERGY SUPPLYING IN
THE FIRST PLACE. AND SO,
CALIFORNIA'S GOAL OF
TRANSITIONING TO ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLES IS CRITICAL TO PROTECT
PUBLIC HEALTH. AND MAKING SURE
WE FOCUS ON OUR AIR QUALITY
DEMANDS AS WELL. BUT THIS WILL
PUT TREMENDOUS NEW DEMANDS ON
OUR ELECTRICAL GRID AND PLANNING
IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE THE GRID
IS READY TO SUPPORT A
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN ELECTRIC
VEHICLE CHARGING THIS IS
PARTICULARLY TRUE IN REGIONS
WITH A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF
MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES.
SUCH AS AREAS NEAR PORTS
WAREHOUSES IN FLEET DEPOTS TO
MEET THIS DEMAND. MANY HEAVY
DUTY CHARGING STATIONS WILL
REQUIRE LOCAL DISTRIBUTION GRID
UPGRADES. THESE UPGRADES CAN
TAKE YEARS, CREATING A
BOTTLENECK THAT COULD DELAY
PROGRESS TOWARDS THE STATE'S
TRANSPORTATION, ELECTRICAL
PATIENT ELECTRIC LOCATION GOALS.
BY REQUIRING THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION TO SHARE
ELECTRIC FLEET DATA THAT IS
ALREADY BEING COLLECTED AGAIN.
IT'S ALREADY BEING COLLECTED
WITH THE STATES UTILITIES THEY
CAN ADEQUATELY PLAN AND MEET THE
FUTURE ELECTRIC DEMAND. THIS
BILL WILL BE PROACTIVE AND
KEEPING CALIFORNIA ON TRACK
TOWARDS OUR ZIP TARGETS. COMMON
SENSE STEP THAT ALIGNS
CALIFORNIA'S GRID PLANNING. WITH
THE STATES HAVE AIR QUALITY AND
CLIMATE GOALS. I FORGET TO
MENTION THE BEGINNING. THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH US.
WE'LL BE TAKING THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS, WHICH WE THINK
REMOVE ASSAM OR MOST OF THE
OPPOSITION CONCERNS. AND WITH
THAT WITH ME TODAY ARE
REPRESENTATIVES FROM SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA EDISON AND PERSON AND
IN OUR D C VIA THE PHONE. THANK
YOU. ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK
YOU. FIRST WITNESS, PLEASE. HERE
IN ROOM 1200. GOOD MORNING. ADAM
SMITH, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
YESTERDAY, SHARING OUR STRONG
SUPPORT FOR A B 2700 AS YOU WELL
KNOW, AND I'VE HEARD THE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR REMAINS
THE PRIMARY OBSTACLE TO REDUCING
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND
IMPROVING AIR QUALITY. TO COMBAT
THIS. THE LEGISLATURE HAS
RIGHTLY PUT FORTH HIS STANDARD
HISTORIC FUNDING PACKAGES TO
ENCOURAGE ELECTRIC VEHICLE
ADOPTION FROM MY DUTY CARS, TOO
HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS. THE AIR
RESOURCES BOARD, AS YOU'VE ALSO
HEARD, IS PROMULGATED AN
IMPORTANT REGULATIONS TO
ENCOURAGE THE SWITCH TO ELECTRIC
VEHICLES. THIS LEADERSHIP FROM
THE STATE IS HAVING REAL RESULTS
AS THE PORTS, WAREHOUSES AND
OTHER BUSINESSES INCREASINGLY
SWITCHED TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE GRID IS
READY FOR THEM. A B 2700 GETS
UTILITIES WHAT THEY NEED TO PLAN
PLAN APPROPRIATELY AND THEN
DIRECTS US TO TAKE ACTION. THE
BILL WOULD PROVIDE UTILITIES
WITH ANNUAL FLEET DATA ALLOWING
US TO FORECAST AND ANTICIPATE
FUTURE ELECTRIFICATION EXPANSION
WITH GREATER CONFIDENCE. THE
STATE WOULD INFORM PLANS THAT WE
, THE INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES
WOULD SEND TO THE PUC FOR
APPROVAL AND ONCE APPROVED, WE
GET TO WORK. WE THINK THE AUTHOR
FOR BRINGING THIS GOOD IDEA
FORWARD. WE SUPPORT IT AS AN
IMPLEMENTING UTILITY AND WE URGE
THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE TO
SUPPORT IT TODAY AS WELL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE MYLES
MILLER HERE? OH, ON THE LINE,
OKAY. GOOD MORNING. STATE AND I
AM I COMING THROUGH. GOOD GOOD
MORNING CARE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
MILES MUELLER CLIMATE AND CLEAN
ENERGY ATTORNEY AT THE NATURAL
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL,
PLEASED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TODAY TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF A
B 2700. 18 27 100 IS A CRITICAL
MEASURE FOR KEEPING CALIFORNIA
ON TRACK QUALITY AND BY ENSURING
THE ELECTRICAL GRID IS PREPARED
TO SUPPORT TRANSPORTATION
ELECTRIFICATION. CALIFORNIA HAS
AMBITIOUS GOALS AND REGULATIONS
FOR ELECTRIFYING THE
TRANSPORTATION BACK THERE,
INCLUDING THE GOVERNOR'S GOALS
OF HAVING 100% IN NEW CAR SALES.
THE ZERO EMISSION BY 2035. TO
MEET THIS GOAL. STATE AGENCIES
HAVE TO MEET THE CALIFORNIA WILL
NEED ROUGHLY 1.2 MILLION
CHARGERS AND EIGHT MILLION VIEWS
ON THE ROAD BY 2030. HOWEVER THE
CURRENT JUST IN TIME APPROACH
FOR BUILDING GRID UPGRADES AND
CUSTOMERS INTEGRATING LARGE
ELECTRIFICATION WAS REQUEST
SERVICE RESULTS IN DELAYS,
BARRIERS AND LARGER COST THAT
WILL ULTIMATELY MAKE IT
DIFFICULT TO REALIZE THOSE
GOALS. THE GOALS SET UP BY
CALIFORNIA'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS
AND STATE REGULATIONS LIKE THE
EVENTS, TRUCK AND EVENTS RULES.
AND IN ORDER TO PREPARE THE GRID
ADEQUATELY SERVE ALL THE NEW
ELECTRIC CARS AND TRUCKS COMING
OVER THE NEXT DECADE. WE NEED A
MORE PROACTIVE APPROACH, THE
GOOD PLANNING AND SERVING THESE
CUSTOMERS. MAYBE 2700 WOULD
ENABLE THIS BETTER INFORMING
STRATEGIC PLANNING, SO WE HAVE
THE GRID. WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE
WIDESPREAD TRANSPORTATION
ELECTRIFICATION WHEN WE NEED IT
TO MEET THE TAPES, CLIMATE, AIR
QUALITY AND EQUITY GOALS. AND
RELATED REGULATIONS. THIS IS
ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR
SUPPORTING THE OCCUPATION OF
MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES,
WHICH WILL PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED
POLLUTION RELIEF TO LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR THAT OFTEN LIVE NEAR
FREEWAYS. SPORTS. RAILYARDS AND
OTHER FACILITIES THAT GENERATE
SIGNIFICANT LEVELS OF ENGINES
OFF. START WITH MORE STRATEGIC
INVESTMENT, STRATEGIC PLANNING
AND INVESTMENT. ELECTRIFICATION
OF THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR CAN
BE COST EFFECTIVE, FACILITATE
PROGRESS TOWARDS THE GOALS AND
KNOCKED MY BENEFITS FOR UTILITY
CUSTOMERS. WE APPRECIATE THE
AUTHORS LEADERSHIP IN ADVANCING
THIS COMMON SENSE PROPOSAL AND
RESPECTFULLY URGE, DRIVER. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THOSE WISHING TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF A B 2700
HERE IN ROOM, 1200. THANK YOU.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS READ AT US
HERE TO REGISTER SUPPORT ON
BEHALF OF CAL START AND
SUPPORTIVE AMENDMENT AMENDED. ON
BEHALF OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGING ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU.
JULIE MAN, ASK YOU, BOB. WE HAVE
THE CALIFORNIA ELECTRIC
TRANSPORTATION COALITION. WE HAD
A SUPPORTIVE AMENDED POSITION
WITH THESE AMENDMENTS WERE
HEADED TO STRAIGHT SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MODERATOR
PLEASE QUEUE UP THOSE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 2700. PLEASE NAME
AFFILIATION AND SUPPORT, IF ANY. THANKS MIKE. IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OF A B 2700 PLEASE PRESS
ONE, FOLLOWED BY A ZERO AT THIS
TIME ONE, FOLLOWED BY A ZERO AND
ONE MOMENT, MR CHAIR. WE DO HAVE
ONE QUEUING UP. ANYBODY ELSE GO
AND HIT 10 AT THIS TIME? YOU ARE
IN SUPPORT OF A B 2700. YOU
SHOULD BE WITH US MOMENTARILY
THERE WITH AN OPERATOR ONE
MOMENT. GET ONE MORE REMINDER.
10 IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF A B
, 2700 AND 69, YOU ARE OPEN.
FLYING 69 MELANIE MARLOWE'S ON
BEHALF OF THE GREENLINING
INSTITUTE AND SUPPORT NOBODY
ELSE DID QUÊ UP, MR. CHAIR OKAY
, WELL, NOW GO TO. SPEAKERS AND
OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYONE HERE
IN THE GALLERY IN OPPOSITION TO
A B 2700? MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS,
CHRISTIAN MOTO WITH THE
CALIFORNIA TRUCKING ASSOCIATION
WANT TO FIRST THANK THE AUTHOR
AND SPONSORS FOR MEETING WITH US
ON THE BILL. WE ARE CURRENTLY
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED DUE TO
CONCERNS OVER NEW REGULATIONS IN
THE FLEET DATA SECTION OF THE
BILL, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT
THOSE SHOULD BE RESOLVED. BY THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS JUST
LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING
DETAILS ON THOSE IN HOPE OF
REMOVING OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
PATRICK WELSH WITH THE
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL UTILITIES
ASSOCIATION POLICE TO REMOVE OUR
OPPOSITION WITH THE AMENDMENTS
BEING ADOPTED TODAY TO CLARIFY
THAT THERE WON'T BE DUPLICATIVE
REPORTING RULES AND ALSO TO
PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO OUR
MEMBERS TO INCORPORATE THIS DATA
AND THEIR DISTRIBUTION PLANNING.
THANK YOU. OKAY, VERY WELL.
WE'LL GO TO THE PHONE LINES FOR
ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION TO A
B 27 MODERATOR, PLEASE QUÊ
SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION TO A B
2700 AND WE'RE ASKING THAT THEY
LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THEIR
NAME. OTHER POSITION ON THE BILL
AND ANY AFFILIATION. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. IF YOU ARE IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 2700 PLEASE
PRESS 10. AND WE HAVE ONE THAT
JUST CUED UP ANYBODY ELSE GO AND
HIT 10 TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO
A B 2700. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
THEY ARE WITH AN OPERATION TO BE
WITH US ANY SECOND, MR CHAIR.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LINE 41
YOU ARE OPEN. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR MEMBERS, CODY BOILS BEHALF
OF WESTERN AG PROCESSORS
ASSOCIATION, AND WE'D LIKE TO
ALIGN OUR COMMENTS AND POSITION
WITH THE CALIFORNIA TRUCKING
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. MR
CHAIR. NOBODY ELSE DID QUEUE UP
AT THIS TIME. OKAY VERY WELL.
WE'LL COME TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
ANY COMMENTS. OR MOTIONS.
QUESTIONS. I'VE GOT. I'VE GOT
EMOTION AND A QUESTION. QUICK I
WOULD DO THE QUESTION FIRST
QUESTION. FIRST OF THE AUTHOR,
UM JUST WALK US THROUGH NOW. I'M
TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND.
THE AMENDMENTS WALK US THROUGH
NOW HOW THE BILL WOULD WOULD
WORK. YOU'RE WELCOME DOING YOUR
CLOTHES AS WELL. I JUST I'M
TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THE
CHANGES. IT'S LIMITING CERTAIN
PUC DATA. BUT THEN IT'S MOVING
SOME OF THAT TO THE C E. C. UM
OUTREACH REQUIREMENTS I SAW
ANYWAY, WE DON'T NEED TO GET TOO
DEEP INTO THE WEEDS, BUT I'M
JUST I'M CURIOUS ABOUT AND
WHETHER THE YOU WERE THE
SPONSORS STILL FEEL LIKE THERE'S
GOING TO BE THROUGHPUT WITH THE
PROGRAM LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT.
WE'RE NOT SORT OF JUST PUTTING A
TOOTHLESS BILL FORWARD THAT
ISN'T GOING TO HAVE THE PUC
ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD. BUT THERE
IS STILL ADDRESSING THE
STAKEHOLDERS CONCERNS SURE.
WELL, IT'S FIRST. YEAH, SO IT'S
THE ENERGY COMMISSION IN
CONJUNCTION WITH AIR RESOURCES
BOARD. SO WE CLARIFY THAT IT'S
NOT OVERLY BURDENSOME AND HAVING
ANYTHING NEW, BUT WHAT'S ALREADY
EXISTING IN THE FIRST PLACE TO
MAKE SURE IT GETS THE UTILITIES
FOR PROPER PLANNING, AND THAT'S
WHEN YOU HEARD THAT THEY DID
REMOVE THEIR OPPOSITION. SO IT
DOES GIVE A WORK PRODUCT THROUGH
THE ENERGY COMMISSION IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE AIR BOARD
TO BE ABLE TO PASS FORWARD TO
OUR UTILITIES TO ADEQUATELY PLAN
AND I THINK, UM, AS THESE
AMENDMENTS OUTLINED, WE WILL
REMOVE THE OPPOSITION BUT STILL
FOCUS ON THE OVERARCHING GOAL
AND IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT OF
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN
CALIFORNIA. AND JUST TO PUT A
FINER POINT, SO IT'S NOT
AUTOMATIC COST RECOVERY. NOW
IT'S NOW SORT OF SUBJECT TO THE
EXISTING PROCESS FOR COST
RECOVERY AROUND THESE
DISTRIBUTION GRID UPGRADES. IS
THAT RIGHT, MR CHAIR? OR MAYBE
STAFF THAT THAT THERE'S NO
LIMITATION NOW ON EDISON BEING
ABLE TO SEEK OR SDG AND E OR PG
BEING A SECRET COST RECOVERY,
BUT IT'S NOT A MUST. RECOVER. MR
CHAIR. CAN WE HAVE THE WITNESS?
COME BACK? YES. ADAM SMITH,
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SAID THROUGH
THE CHAIR. YEAH IT'S BASICALLY
JUST WOULD SUBMIT US TO THE
USUAL COST RECOVERY PROCESS. SO
BUT WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THE BILL?
AND JUST LIKE A SLIGHT DETOUR
HERE IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY
GETTING MORE GRANULAR DETAIL
ABOUT WHERE THE ELECTRIFICATION
IS GOING TO SHOW UP. SO I THINK
WHEN WE'RE MAKING THE PITCH THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
ABOUT WE HAVE TO DO UPGRADES IN
THIS AREA. IT'S KIND OF DATA
DRIVEN. THANK YOU. MOTION STANDS
. OKAY, WE HAVE EMOTION. DID YOU
WANT TO MAKE ANY CLOSING
COMMENTS? APPRECIATE THAT AGAIN
. YOU WORK FROM YOU AND YOUR
COMMITTEE STAFF AND THE
COMMITTEE FOR ENGAGING ON THIS
ISSUE. THISIS A LARGER PIECE OF
THE PUZZLE TO HELP US GET TO
WHERE WE WANT TO. BE WITH 100%
CLEAN CARS WITHIN THE NEXT
DECADE OR SO. SO WITH THAT, ASK
FOR YOUR RIGHT, BUT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A
MOTION CLERK PLEASE. AND THE
MOTION. IF I COULD JUST REACH
RESTATED, DO PASS. TO BE AMENDED
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND THE
AUTHOR ACCEPTED ALL THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. AND WE
HAVE MOTION CLERK. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. MAYBE 2700 BY SOME OF
THE MEMBER CARDI WAS SO BY DALI.
BECKER BECKER, I BARGES.
BRADFORD BRADFORD. I DODD DOT I
EGGMAN GONZALES GONZALES I
GROWTH HERTZBERG MCGUIRE
MCGUIRE. I'M IN MEN. I RUBIO
RUBIO. I STERN STERN. AYE. YOU
HAVE NINE HAS ENOUGH VOTES TO
GET OUT. WE'LL HOLD THE ROPE,
AND PERHAPS SOME MEMBERS WILL GO
TO FILE ITEM NUMBER 1 80 2061
CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS ON A B 2061. MAYBE 2061
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ROUTINE
CURRENT VOTE 80 PASS TO
TRANSPORTATION WAS SO I GORGEOUS
OR JUST I. BRADFORD REDFORD.
AYE. HERTZBERG. STERN STERN.
AYE. 12. HAS 12 VOTES, OKAY HAS
ENOUGH TO GET OUT WILL HOLD THE
ROPE, AND PERHAPS SOME MEMBERS
WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
EVERY 2083 BY ASSEMBLYWOMAN
BAUER BAUER-KAHAN, UH, CLERK.
RATES REMOVED, CLERK PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER THREE A
B 2083 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BAUER-KAHAN DO PASS AS AMENDED
TO APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT VOTE
80. GORGEOUS. BRADFORD BRADFORD.
AYE. GONZALEZ GONZALEZ. I
HERTZBERG STERN. AND I. 11 11
VOTES. IT HAS ENOUGH TO GET OUT
. WE'LL HOLD THE ROLL OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS WILL GO TO ITEM
NUMBER FOUR A B 2023 BY SIMILAR
MEMBER GALLAGHER. AH, PLEASE
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS. UM
MAYBE 20 TO 83 DO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS, GORGEOUS. OR
JUST I, BRADFORD BRADFORD, I
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ. I HERTZBERG
STERN STERN. AYE. MEN I TO KNOW.
11 1, CAN YOU CALL ABSENT
MEMBERS AGAIN ON THIS BILL? UM,
ITEM NUMBER FOUR. GALLAGHER.
HERTZBERG. HERTZBERG? AYE. SURE
OKAY, WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 5
80 25 87 BY SOME OF THE MEMBER
GARCIA CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE
OPPOSITE MEMBERS. A B 25 87 DO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT
VOTE 80 GORGEOUS OR DESAI?
BRADFORD BRADFORD? AYE. GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ, I HERZBERG HERZBERG.
AYE.STERN STERN? AYE. OKAY HAS
AN EFFORT TO HOLD THE ROLL UP IN
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER
SIX, MAYBE 26 96 BY SIMILAR
MEMBER GARCIA CLERK. PLEASE CALL
THE OPPOSITE MEMBERS 26 96 TO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS CURRENT
VOTE 80 GORGEOUS. OR DOES I?
BRADFORD BRADFORD? I GONZALEZ
SALAS? AYE HERZBERG HERZBERG?
AYE. STERN STERN? AYE. 13 HAS AN
EFFORT TO KEEP THE ROLL UP IN
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER
7 80 2700 BY SIMILAR MEMBER
MCCARTHY CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS. FROM A B 2700 DO
PASS TO BE AMENDED IN
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. CURRENT
VOTE 90. GROVE. HERTZBERG.
GORGEOUS NÓ. SORRY. OKAY WE'LL
GO TO THE FINAL ITEM ITEM NUMBER
EIGHT A. B 27 03 BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER MEMBER MURATSUCHI. CLERK.
PLEASE CALL THE OPPOSITE
MEMBERS. A B 27 03
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CERTAIN MERIT.
SUKI DO PASS TO BE AMENDED IN
TRANSPORTATION. CURRENT VOTE SIX
TO WEAR, SO I OH, I GORGEOUS.
BRADFORD. BRADFORD. AYE.
HERTZBERG HERZBERG AYE,
STRENGTH. AND I. TENDED. TO
TENDED TO THE BILL HASN'T ABOUT
TO GET OUT WILL HOLD THE ROPE
AND PERHAPS MEMBERS WILL GO BACK
TO ITEM NUMBER ONE, MAYBE 2061
BUT BY SIMILAR MEMBER TING
CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS. MAYBE 2061 TEAM
HERZBERG HERZBERG? AYE. NHÌP.
EVERYBODY'S VOTED. OKAY
EVERYBODY HAS VOTED, UM, ITEM
MEMBER, THREE. A B 2083 BY
ASSEMBLYWOMAN BARAKAT. KAYHAN UM
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
GORGEOUS. HERTZBERG HERZBERG?
AYE. SO EVERYBODY'S VOTE AND
EVERYTHING OKAY? THAT BRINGS US
TO THE END. OF OUR HEARING
TODAY. WE WANT TO THANK EVERYONE
FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION. AH! WE
HAVE HAVE GONE THROUGH. OUR
AGENDA TODAY. I WANT TO THANK
ALL THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY TODAY. IF YOU WERE NOT
ABLE TO TESTIFY, PLEASE SUBMIT
YOUR COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS IN
WRITING TO THE SENATE, ENERGY,
UTILITIES AND COMMUNICATIONS
COMMITTED COMMITTEE OR VISIT OUR
WEBSITE. YOUR COMMENTS AND
SUGGESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO US
, AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE YOUR
TESTIMONY IN THE OFFICIAL
HEARING RECORDS. THANK YOU, AND
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION
. WE HAVE CONCLUDED OUR AGENDA.
THE SENATE COMMITTEE ENERGY AND
UTILITIES AND COMMUNICATIONS IS
NOW INJURED AND. VERY WELL.