SENATE COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS
AND CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS
WILL COME TO ORDER. GOOD
MORNING, EVERYONE. AS WE
CONTINUE TO TAKE SOME
PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE THE
ONGOING COVID 19 RISKS, THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
PUBLIC. AND HAS PROVIDED ACCESS
TO BOTH IN PERSON AND
TELECONFERENCE PARTICIPATION FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT. INDIVIDUALS
WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
COMMENT VIA THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE PARTICIPANT TOLL FREE
NUMBER AND ACCESS CODE IS POSTED
ON OUR COMMITTEE WEBSITE. AND I
WILL ANNOUNCE IT NOW. TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 8772. AND
THE ACCESS CODE IS 190. 6817. I
WILL MAINTAIN DECORUM DURING THE
HEARING, AS IS CUSTOMARY, AND
ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS DISRUPTIVE
MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE RMOTE
MEETING SERVICE OR HAVE THEIR
CONNECTIONS MUTED. WE'RE HOLDING
OUR COMMITTEE HEARING HERE IN
THE O STREET BUILDING. ASK ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO COME
TO ROOM 2200 SO WE CAN ESTABLISH
OUR QUORUM AND BEGIN OUR
HEARING. WE HAVE 10 BILLS ON THE
ON TODAY'S AGENDA. WE HAVE TWO
BILLS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. A
B 25 28 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BIGELOW FILE NUMBER FOUR. AND A
B 29 67 BY THE ASSEMBLY
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS AND THAT
IS FOUL ITEM NUMBER 10. BEFORE
WE HEAR PRESENTATIONS ON OUR
MEASURES. LET'S ESTABLISH A
QUORUM WITH THE SECRETARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. GLASER
PRESENT LASER HERE, NIELSEN.
HARTSBURG. LABOR. LEAVE IT HERE.
NEWMAN NEWMAN HERE. WE HAVE
THREE MEMBERS PRESENT, WHICH IS
A QUORUM. ALRIGHT, SO WE WILL
BEGIN. WITH THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. MEMBERS ANYONE WANTS
TO PULL ANYTHING FROM THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. SAYING THAT WE
HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR LEYVA
TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
WITH THE SECRETARY. CALL THE
ROLL. LASER I, ER I'M NELSON.
HARTSBURG. LEAVE HIM LEAVE
NEWMAN. I ALRIGHT, THAT HAS
THREE VOTES WILL HOLD THE ROLL
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. ALL
RIGHT, NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA.
FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE A B 14 16
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SANTIAGO
SIR. WELCOME TO OUR COMMITTEE.
AND YOU CAN BEGIN ANYTIME YOU'RE
READY. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I
ALWAYS ASKED CHAIRS. IF THEY
PREFER THE VERSION I HAVE OR
EDITED OR A SHORTER VERSION OF
WHAT I HAVE. WELL I THINK GIVEN
THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BILL, I
THINK YOU SHOULD GIVE A THOROUGH
REVIEW. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE
THAT. THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO
START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU
VERY MUCH, MR CHAIR, BECAUSE I
KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A ISSUE THAT
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR OVER
THREE YEARS, BOTH ON THE SENATE
IN THE ASSEMBLY SIDE. AND I
RECOGNIZE THE CONCERNS WHICH
WHICH I'M SURE THAT YOU WILL
STATE REGARDING THIS COULD
POTENTIALLY DO CREATE A SLIPPERY
SLOPE AND THAT IT COULD BE
MISUSED. AND BUT I ALSO WANT TO
STATE THAT I WANT TO THANK YOU.
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, YOU
YOU AND THE YOUR COUNTERPART IN
THE ASSEMBLY HAD HAD ASKED US TO
GO TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE
ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON BALLOT
MEASURES, AND WE DID, UM, THEY
GAVE US UH, SUGGESTIONS ON WHICH
FOR IMPLEMENTATION, AND WE TOOK
THOSE IMPLEMENTATIONS. THOSE
PIECES OF ADVICE AND IMPLEMENTED
THEM. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY
THANKS FOR ALONG THE PRESENT.
UM, EVEN THOUGH YOU YOU WON'T BE
ABLE TO SUPPORT BUT ALLOWING%
YOUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO
SUPPORT IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY
WANT TO SUPPORT THIS AND GIVING
OUR ABILITY TO GIVE GIVE, GIVE
IT OUR BEST SHOT. AND I SAY THAT
BECAUSE I THINK THAT I THINK
IT'S A IT'S UNUSUAL AND I WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. A B
14 16 IS A COMMON SENSE SOLUTION
THAT WE BELIEVE WILL BRING
TRANSPARENCY TO BALLOT MEASURES
ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA,
CALIFORNIA PROVIDE VOTERS WITH
CRITICAL INFORMATION THAT THEY
NEED BEFORE THEY CAST THEIR
VOTES. THIS BILL WOULD REQUIRE
THE BALLOT MEASURE LABELS TO
INCLUDE A SHORT LIST. OF WHO
SUPPORTS AND WHO OPPOSES THE TO
MEASURE. UM AND IT WILL APPLY TO
BALLOT MEASURES WITH COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND LOCALS
HAVING THE ABILITY TO OPT OUT.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE
SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE HAS
GIVEN US. AND IN RECENT YEARS
BALLOT MEASURE CAMPAIGNS HAVE
BEEN USED. HAVE YOU SIGNIFICANT
FUNDS TO DONATE VOTERS AND
ADVERTISED THIS WAY AND MANY
TIMES MISLEAD VOTERS OF WHO
REALLY SUPPORTS AND WHO REALLY
OPPOSES A BALLOT MEASURE. BUT
THANKS TO THE BALLOT DISCLOSURE
ACT, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL
HELP. TO PREVENT SOME OF THAT.
PERMISSION TO SHOW PROP. SO
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS
ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD LOOK AND WE
ARE. SO DO I WANT TO SHOW YOU
WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND
IT WOULD BE RIGHT BELOW THE
BALLOT MEASURE LIMITED. LIMITED
TO 125 CHARACTERS. THE QUESTION
HAS BEEN ASKED TO. WHY DO WE
NEED THIS? WHEN WE HAD A BOOK
THAT TELLS US ALL THIS? AND I
WANT TO ANSWER THAT? BECAUSE IN
A LOT OF COMMUNITIES MAYBE YOU
DO GET A BOOK AND MAYBE YOU'D
WELL, YOU DO GET A BOOK, BUT YOU
GET IT WAY EARLIER, AND WHEN
YOU'RE MAKING THE DECISION TO
VOTE, THAT BOOK MAY NOT BE
THERE. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IN
MANY CASES, AND THERE ARE SOME
COMMUNITIES A LITTLE BIT
CHALLENGED. MINE IS ONE WHERE
THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE TIME TO
SIT THERE AND GO THROUGH ENTIRE
BOOK. BUT HAVING THAT CRITICAL
INFORMATION AT THE TIME OF
VOTING, UH, WE BELIEVE I BELIEVE
PROVOKES THAT INDIVIDUAL TO DO A
LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH TO
WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO LAND ON
THE ISSUE AND LEARN A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO
MAKE THE DECISION ON THE BALLOT
BEFORE THEM. UM THE QUESTION HAS
BEEN SAID HE'LL COULD JUST COULD
THERE BE ORGANIZATIONS THAT
MISLEAD THE PUBLIC. WELL, WE PUT
IN THERE. THE ORGANIZATION HAS
EXIST FOR TWO YEARS AND HAVE A
FULL TIME EMPLOYEE. COULD THERE
BE ABUSES POTENTIALLY, BUT THEIR
ABUSES NOW THAT THAT THAT EXIST
IN THE BOOK, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT
THAT ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE DONE
THEIR WORK TO EARN THE VOTERS
TRUST WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY THE
VOTER. WHEN THEY MAKE THIS
DECISION. THAT'S WHY WE FEEL
VERY STRONGLY HELPED TO EDUCATE
AND ENSURE THAT VOTERS HAVE ALL
THE INFORMATION AND DO THEIR DUE
DILIGENCE WHEN THEY ARE VOTING.
AH IN WHATEVER BALLOT MEASURE,
UH, ELECTION BEFORE THEM. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR FOR ALLOWING ME TO
DO THIS PRESENTATION WITH THANK
YOU, AND I WILL OVER AND OVER
AGAIN FOR LETTING US PRESENT
MAKING OUR BEST CASE TO THE
COMMITTEES TO THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS HAVE TWO WITNESSES WITH
ME. AH TRENT, LAYING FROM THE
CLEAN MONEY CAMPAIGN AND
CHRISTOPHER SANCHEZ FROM CHURLA.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
FIRST WITNESS GOOD MORNING,
CHUCK BLAZER AND MEMBERS THAT
TRENT LAG, UH, PRESIDENT CALVIN
KLEIN CAMPAIGN. WE WERE PROUD TO
SPONSOR IT BE 14 16 AND VERY
GRATEFUL TO SOMEBODY MEMBER
SANTIAGO FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON
ON THIS BILL. UM AS HE MENTIONED
THIS IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON
THE BELT DISCLOSED ACT FOR OVER
THREE YEARS. NOW THE ORIGINAL
BILL PASSED THE SENATE SP 6 36.
THANK YOU FOR SOME OF YOUR VOTES
ON THAT. THIS BILL HAS BEEN
REFINED EVEN FURTHER TO,
ESPECIALLY AFTER FEEDBACK THAT
WE GOT FROM THE SECRETARY OF
STATE'S BALLOT DESIGN ADVISORY
COMMITTEE. UH, THE COMMITTEE
ITSELF DIDN'T MAKE SPECIFIC
RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT INDIVIDUAL
MEMBERS MADE, UH GAVE FEEDBACK
THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT SUCH AS PROVIDING MORE
TIME FOR COUNTY REGISTRARS TO
GET THE INFORMATION ON THE
BALLOT. UM AND TO CLARIFY HOW
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAY OPT OUT
OF HAVING, UH SUPPORTERS AND
OPPONENTS LISTED ON LOCAL BALLOT
MEASURES. SO THANK YOU SHARE
GLAZER FOR WORKING WITH FORMER
CHAIR BERMAN TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE COULD GET THAT VERY VALUABLE
FEEDBACK. OUR POLL OF 661 LIKELY
CALIFORNIA VOTERS IN 2019 FOUND
THAT 79% OF VOTERS THOUGHT THAT
IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW
WHO SUPPORT AND OPPOSE HIS BELT
MEASURES WHEN THEY VOTE. ALSO
FOUND UNFORTUNATELY THAT ONLY
21% OF VOTERS. WE'RE VERY
CONFIDENT THAT THEY KNEW THE
IMPORTANT SUPPORTERS AND
OPPONENTS ONE DAY BOAT THAT'S A
REAL PROBLEM, AND THAT'S A
PROBLEM THAT WE THINK THIS BILL
WILL ADDRESS. UH SUPPOSED THIS
INFORMATION IN ONE PLACE SO THAT
ALL VOTERS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE
IT. THE SHORT LIST OF 100 25
CHARACTERS SERVICE WILL SURE
SERVE AS A USEFUL REMINDER. OF
THE BELT ARGUMENTS THAT ARE IN
THE ARGUMENT THAT ARE IN THE
BELT PAMPHLET ALREADY. AH! TO
AVOID POLITICIZATION OF
POLITICAL PARTIES ARE BANNED
FROM BEING LISTED. AND LASTLY,
IT DOES HAS SIMPLY, SANTIAGO
POINTED OUT. IT HAS SOME
PROTECTIONS AGAINST SHAM
ORGANIZATIONS FOR BEING USED
LIKE THE TWO YEAR RULE. OF
COURSE, THERE WILL BE SOMETIMES
THAT THAT CAN BE GAINED AROUND.
THERE'S NO GETTING AROUND THAT
THERE'S NO PERFECT PROTECTIONS.
BUT WHAT THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO
DO IS STOP THE VOTERS FROM BEING
ABLE TO SEE THE REAL TRUE
TRUSTED ORGANIZATIONS THAT
SUPPORT AND OPPOSE BALLOT
MEASURES, WHICH IN MANY CASES
RIGHT NOW VOTERS JUST DON'T
KNOW, BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE
SPENT SO MUCH MONEY FLOODING THE
AIRWAVES. SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST DR
VOTE AND AGAIN. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND
THANK YOU, MR LANG. YOUR NEXT
WITNESSES, MR SANCHEZ? WELCOME.
MORNING MR CHAN MEMBERS
CHRISTOPHER SANCHEZ POLICY
EVERYWHERE IN THE WESTERN CENTER
ON LAW AND POVERTY ORGANIZATION
STANDS IN FIRM SUPPORT OF A B 14
16 TO ENSURE THAT ALL CALIFORNIA
VOTERS ARE ABLE TO BE INFORMED
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WHEN THEY'RE
CASTING THEIR VOTE.
UNFORTUNATELY MANY OF THE
CLIENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS
THAT WE REPRESENT OR OFTENTIMES
THAT INFORMATION DISADVANTAGE
ABOUT MEASURES THAT ARE ON THE
BALLOT MANY TIMES BECAUSE
THEY'RE ON HOUSE AND UNABLE TO
HAVE A RELIABLE MELANIN ADDRESS
. THEY WORKED SEVERAL JOBS NOT
ABLE ALWAYS READ THROUGH THE
VOTER INFORMATION THAT ARE
PROVIDED. IN ADDITION,
ESPECIALLY DURING THESE TIMES WE
FIND MORE AND MORE CALIFORNIANS
ARE BEING DISPLACED FROM THEIR
HOMES, VOTER INFORMATION THAT
DOESN'T ALWAYS FOLLOW THEM TO
THEIR NEW RESIDENCY. OUR MAILING
ADDRESS. THAT'S WHY THIS MEASURE
IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS
ANOTHER TOOL TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE TO VOTERS TO BE HELPFUL
TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO HAVE
INFORMATION DISADVANTAGE ARE
ABLE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHO'S
IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION OF
SUCH MEASURES. IF WE WANT TO
EXPAND AND STRENGTHEN DEMOCRACY,
WE SHOULD BE MAKING EVERY EFFORT
POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE AS MUCH
INFORMATION TO ALL THE VOTERS OF
CALIFORNIA FOR THESE REASONS
WESTERN CENTER WOULD OR DRIVE
OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE
WE GO TO OTHER FOLKS WHO WANT TO
TESTIFY IN FAVOR HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM OR ONLINE. I
DECLINED. I FORGOT TO MENTION
THAT FOR TODAY'S HEARING. AT
LEAST WE ARE GOING TO PERMIT
EQUAL TIME ON BOTH SIDES FOR
LEAD WITNESSES, AND WE'RE
ALLOWING TO TWO MINUTES APIECE.
WE THINK THAT EARLIER WITNESSES
FOR ADHERING TO THAT TIME FRAME
AND ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK IT
WILL BE NECESSARY, EACH SIDE
WILL REPRINTED A TOTAL OF 20
MINUTES FOR TESTIMONY. OKAY
WE'VE HEARD FROM MR LANG AND MR
SANCHEZ ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM, WHICH TO TESTIFY
IN FAVOR AND AT THIS POINT IN
THE HEARING? WE'RE NOT GOING TO
TAKE TESTIMONY, ONLY YOUR NAME,
AFFILIATION AND INDICATION OF
SUPPORT. DOOR ROSALIE WOUND
PHOTOS OF CALIFORNIA AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THERESA CONE, M D PSYCHIATRIST
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU
ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM, SEEING NONE WILL GO TO OUR
TELECONFERENCE LINE. MODERATOR
WOULD YOU SEE IF ANYONE WISHES
TO TESTIFY IN FAVOR OF ASSEMBLY
BILL 14 16. TO TESTIFY IN FAVOR
OF PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. GO TO LINE 32. MM HMM.
FIND 32. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. ONCE
AGAIN LYING 32 YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. GO AHEAD. DOING? NOTHING
WILL MOVE ON TO LINE 15. YES.
GOOD MORNING. THIS IS MICHAEL
LEVINSON AND SUPPORT CALIFORNIA
CLEAN MONEY AND ALL PEOPLE WHO
ARE VISUALLY IMPAIRED WHO NEED
THIS BILL? THANK YOU. BUYING 24.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RON ZUCKER
. I'M A RESIDENT. PETALUMA,
CALIFORNIA I'M ON THE EAST
ACTION NATIONAL BOARD, AND I
ENCOURAGE ALL MEMBERS PRESENT TO
VOTE IN FAVOR OF A B 14 16. LINE
20. HELLO I AM STEPHANIE BROWN
COLORING ON BEHALF OF INSENSIBLE
TRAVEL FOR NYA. STATES STRONG
COALITION, ALL 83 LOCAL GROUPS
AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA 3 50. WE URGE YOU TO
PASS A B 1416 THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. LINE 29. THANK YOU AND
VICKI MUELLER OLVERA. I LIVE IN
SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT
OF A B 14 16. THANK YOU. 9 36.
HELLO MY NAME IS JACQUELINE
TARYN WRINKLED AND I AM FROM THE
TRI VALLEY DEMOCRATIC CLUB
SECRETARY. WE ARE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF 18 14 16. LINE 42. MY
NAME IS PHOEBE CHOI FROM
MONTERREY IN SUPPORT OF A B 14
62. THANK YOU. 9 28. HI ROB POND
WITH UNREGULATED AND CALLING IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 14 16.
LINE NINE. THAT LANGLOIS APTOS
HILLS STRONG SUPPORT OF IT
BEFORE THINE 16. THANK YOU. MM
HMM. FIND 16. JAMIE YORK ON THE
SECRETARY OF THE RECEIPT. A
NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL SPEAKING AS
AN INDIVIDUAL AND I'M IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF A B 1416. LINE 22.
OTHER PHENOMENA WITH CALIFORNIA
ECONOMIC PART OF SUPPORT, OF
COURSE. QUÊ. LINE 30. GOOD
MORNING, MICHELLE SUTTER,
DIRECTOR OF MOVIE MONEY OUT
VOTERS IN IN STRONG SUPPORT OF A
B 14 16. THANK YOU. LINE 31.
GRAHAM HUEY CITY OF WARNER
CREEK. INTO CHRIS. STRONG
SUPPORT OF A B 14 16. THANK YOU.
LINE 18. HI I'M JOEL FROM
BURBANK, CALIFORNIA, AND I'M A
STRONG SUPPORTER OF A B 14 16.
LINE 48. HI JOSHUA, EZEKIEL AND
SALINAS, CALIFORNIA JUST RETIRED
AFTER 38 YEARS OF THE PUBLIC
SCHOOL TEACHER AND SUPPORTIVE
BABY 14 16. LINE 23. AND MY NAME
IS JACKIE NOAH'S FROM THEN I I'M
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 14 16.
THANK YOU. LINE 11. MY NAME IS
CATHERINE VIDAL. I'M FROM
VENTURA, CALIFORNIA. I AM IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 14 16.
LINE 51. THIS IS SANTIAGO
RODRIGUEZ WITH CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS IN SUPPORT.
WILD 52. YES HI. THIS IS CRAIG
BERRY. FROM LOS ANGELES TO THEM
AND STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 14 16.
LINE 50. HI MY NAME IS SUE
SANDERS FROM SAN AND SOMEONE
CALIFORNIA FOUNDER OF
INDIVISIBLE ROSS VALLEY AND
STRONG SUPPORT OF A B. 14 16.
THANK YOU. LINE 56. WELL, IT'S
ABBOTT FAMILY. AMBRO
INDIVIDUALITY SPACE FROM
SUPPORT. MR CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NO
ONE ELSE IN. Q GREAT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WE'RE NOW MOVED TO
THE OPPOSITION SIDE OF THE
LEDGER HERE FOR A B 14 16. WE
DON'T HAVE LEAD WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. IS THERE
ANYONE HERE AND YOU KNOW OUR
HEARING ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. SEEN AND
WILL GO TO THE PHONE LINES
MODERATOR IF YOU CAN ASK IF
ANYONE WISHES TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION TO PLEASE SO INDICATE
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THENZERO. WE'LL GO
FIRST TO LINE 17. YES AND I WAS
ON HOLD FOR EACH SUPPORT LINE IN
MY NUMBER WAS NOT CALLED
FRANCESCA WANDER, CALLING ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA STATE
STRONG AND VISIBLE AS WELL AS IN
PRINCIPLE. SAN FRANCISCO.
INDIVISIBLE SACRAMENTO AND
CALIFORNIA GREEN TEAM CALLING IN
STRONG SUPPORT. OF THE BUILT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT
CALLER, PLEASE. LIE IN 54. YES
MY NAME IS LINDA. I'M FROM
PLEASURE COUNTY AND I OPPOSE 14
16. THANK YOU. LINE 47. I DON'T
REALLY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS
AND WHERE YOU'RE NOT HAVING
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION THAT
DOESN'T SEEM VERY REPRESENTATIVE
TO ME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
POSITION. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE.
LINE 26. TIMOTHY HOLIDAY, SANTA
CLARA COUNTY, VISUALLY IMPAIRED
WHEELCHAIR BALANCE. ALSO
COMPUTER TECHNICIAN I STRONGLY
OPPOSED. BE 14 16. THANK YOU.
NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. MR CHAIRMAN
, WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE CAN KILL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MODERATOR
WILL BRING THE MATTER BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE. FOR DISCUSSION
AND QUESTIONS. I DID NEGLECT TO
ASK ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. THERE WERE
SOME TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS
SUGGESTED IN THE ANALYSIS. YES
AND I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WE
ACCEPT OUR TECHNICAL AMENDMENT
BY YOUR COMMITTEE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, OKAY. MEMBERS ANY
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM
COLLEAGUES. RIGHT UM, DO YOU DO
YOU KIND OF MISSED THE CHANCE MY
LIGHTS ON? ALRIGHT I'M SPECIAL
CONSIDERATION AS HE SHARED THE
HEARING LAST WEEK. EXCEPTIONAL
WAY I'M GONNA RECOGNIZE FORMER
CHAIR ACTING SHARE AND THERE WAS
SOME OF THE BEST WORK. THIS
COMMITTEE IS DONE. UH AND SO
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, UM, I'M GOING
TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY AND
FIRST I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR
ACTIVATING YOUR NETWORK SO
THOROUGHLY IN THE PAST 24 HOURS
. UM BUT IT IS A TESTAMENT, MR
LANG AND THE WORK THAT YOU'VE
DONE THAT I'VE GOTTEN AN UNTOLD
NUMBER OF TEXAN CALLS AND EMAILS
AND, YOU KNOW, BUT SUPPORTIVE,
SUPPORTIVE THE GENERAL, UH,
EFFORT HERE. IT'S SPECIFICALLY
THIS BILL, BUT THE LAST CALLER
IN OPPOSITION DID RAISE AN ISSUE
POINT. BUT SO HOW DO WE ACCOUNT
IN THIS, UH, IMPLEMENTATION FOR
VISUALLY IMPAIRED PEOPLE AS THEY
COME TO THE BALLOT. SURE AND
WELL THERE. WHATEVER EXISTING
MECHANISMS THERE ARE AND I'M NOT
THE TECHNICAL EXPERT ON ON THAT
POPULATION AS IT RELATES TO
VOTING, BUT WHATEVER WHATEVER
THERE IS TODAY DOESN'T CHANGE.
RIGHT BUT IT DOES PLACE ISSUE
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF NEW
INFORMATION ON THE ACTUAL BALLOT
. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO CONSIDER
IN THE PRIVACY OF THE VOTING
BOOTH. SO YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD
ANOTHER HEARING ABOUT SOME OTHER
CHANGES ABOUT SORT OF AFFECTING
SOLUTIONS FOR THE VISUALLY
IMPAIRED WITHOUT COMPROMISING
THEIR PRIVACY. SO IT I MEAN,
THAT'S A REASONABLE CONCERN. I
THINK MR CHAIRMAN, REPLAY, OF
COURSE. YES, IT IS, AND I'D LOVE
TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THAT THAT
I FIRST TIME IT'S BROUGHT UP AS
IT RELATES TO PRIVATE AS IT
RELATES TO SOMEBODY GOING TO THE
BOOTH TO PRIVATELY VOTE. I'D
LOVE TO WORK ON THAT. I MEAN,
I'M NOT GONNA MAKE SOMETHING UP,
BECAUSE I IT IS A CONCERN. I'D
LIKE TO BE ABLE TO COMMENDABLE
SO GOOD. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE
IT IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT
AND PURSUE IT, AND I WANT TO SAY
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE BILL,
BUT I DO SHARE SOME OF THE
CHAIRS CONCERNS. I THINK HE'S
GOING TO ARTICULATED THAT THAT
YOU KNOW, ON THE ONE HAND WE DO.
PEOPLE DO GET A BALLOT ON THE
OTHER. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE
PROBABLY IS SOME DOWNSIDE OF
PUTTING TOO MUCH INFORMATION ON
THE ACTUAL BALLOT IN THAT THAT
PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY ADDRESSING
IN THE VOLLEYBALL. I THINK ON
BALANCE TO ME, THIS IS A NET
POSITIVE. BUT YOU KNOW, AT SOME
POINT, YOU KNOW THAT WE WILL
WIND UP WITH A TON OF
INFORMATION ON THE BALLOT. AND I
THINK YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENT
ARGUMENT THAT THAT SOME OF THE
EMPHASIS IN THE WORK THAT WE DO
AND MORE GENERALLY SHOULD BE
ABOUT VOTER EDUCATION, CIVIC
ENGAGEMENT SO THAT THIS MIGHT
NOT BE NECESSARY. AND LAST THING
AND I THINK TRENT BLANK SPOKE TO
IT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT YOU
KNOW THE PERENNIAL PROBLEM OF
SHAM ORGANIZATIONS OF DECEPTIVE
NAMING AGAIN. YOU KNOW, THAT'S
THAT'S SORT OF GENERIC TO
ENDEMIC. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S
THIS IS THE LAST CONTACT THAT
SOMEBODY WILL HAVE WITH THE
INFORMATION THAT THEY WILL USE
TO VOTE SO SOMETHING THAT WE
SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT MOVING
FORWARD. BUT THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME THOSE COMMENTS. MR
CHAIRMAN, SENATOR NEWMAN. UM
SEEN NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES. LET ME MAKE A FEW
MYSELF FIRST. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION
THAT WE HAVE HAD. CERTAINLY I
HAVE A GREAT ADMIRER OF THE
SUPPORTERS OF YOUR BILL, AND
THEY'RE THERE. THIRST AND. UH
EFFORTS TO TRY TO GET MORE CIVIC
PARTICIPATION, MORE INFORMED
FOLKS THAT CAN PARTICIPATE IN
OUR ELECTIONS. IT'S SOMETHING
THAT IT'S FOUNDATIONAL TO OUR
DEMOCRACY. UM I ALSO WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE SENATOR STERN, WHO
HAS AUTHORED LEGISLATION IN THIS
AREA PREVIOUSLY. AS WELL. FORMER
CHAIR BERMAN AND I HAD SPENT A
LOT OF TIME LAST YEAR ON THIS
ISSUE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
WAS THE RIGHT BALANCE AND WE
COURSE JOINTLY SIGNED A LETTER
TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE ASKING
FOR HER BALLOT COMMITTEE TO TAKE
A LOOK AT IT. I WANT TO NOTE
THAT I'M SURPRISED THAT BOTH
THAT COMMITTEE AND THE SECRETARY
OF NOT WEIGHED IN MORE DIRECTLY
ON A BILL SUCH AS THIS, THAT
DOES FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED THE
BALLOT QUESTION THAT VOTERS HAVE
SEEN IN THE PAST. THE DILEMMA
FOR ME. AH, A COUPLE DILEMMAS.
NUMBER ONE IS THAT THE BALLOT TO
ME IS LIKE A POLLING PLACE. TO
PLAY. IT'S A NEUTRAL SPOT WHERE
THE CAMPAIGNING STOPS. AND THAT
VOTERS CAN MAKE WHATEVER
DECISIONS THEY WANT TO MAKE IN
THE QUIET OF THEIR HOUSE REQUIRE
OF A BALLOT. PLACE UM AND YOU
KNOW, WE KNOW THAT FOR ALL OF US
WHO PRACTICED THIS ART OF
POLITICS, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A
LOT OF STUFF. THAT COULD FLIES
AROUND DURING ELECTION CAMPAIGNS
, BOTH FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FOR
BALLOT MEASURES. AND SO THERE
COMES A POINT IN WHICH WE SAY
THE QUIET HAS TO BE IN THIS
SPACE, SO WE DON'T ALLOW
SIGNAGE. THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS
THAT WE TRY TO PROTECT THAT
VOTERS ABILITY TO THOUGHTFULLY
MAKE WHATEVER CHOICE THEY WANT
TO MAKE. AND SO I DO SEE THE
BALLOT IS THAT TYPE OF A PLACE?
UM INTEREST GROUP ARGUMENTS AND
LISTS OF SUPPORTERS. WE PROVIDE
THEM IN THE PAMPHLET AS YOU SO
NOTED THAT EVERY EVERY VOTER
GETS THAT PAMPHLET, EVERY VOTER
CAN SEE THAT ARGUMENT. THEY CAN
SAVE IT. THEY CAN THROW IT AWAY.
ONCE AGAIN, WE WORK HARD TO TRY
TO EDUCATE TO SENATOR NEWMAN'S
POINT. GIVE PEOPLE AS MUCH
INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE, BOTH
NEUTRAL AND ARGUMENTS. AND IT'S
STILL FOR MANY OF US THAT
CHALLENGED TO SEE WHETHER THE
VOTERS HAVE ABSORBED IT ALL. AND
THEN, OF COURSE, THE CHOICES
THAT THEY END UP MAKING AND I DO
FEEL THAT 14 16 BLURS THAT LINE
FROM THE CAMPAIGN PORTION AND
THE NEUTRAL, QUIET TIME FOR EACH
VOTER TO MAKE THE CHOICE THAT
THEY MAKE. AND HERE'S THE HERE'S
I THINK ONE OF THE MORE
IMPORTANT TESTS FOR THIS ISSUE
OF NEUTRALITY. IF THIS MEASURE
WAS BEFORE ANY OTHER STATE IN
THE UNION. TEXAS GEORGIA,
PENNSYLVANIA. HOW YOU PICK A
STATE AND YOU KNOW THAT THE
SIGNALS THAT YOU HOPE TO SEND
WITH SOMEONE WHO IS SUPPORTING
ONE MEASURE OR OPPOSING ANOTHER
MEASURE. YOU KNOW THE SIGNAL
THAT YOU HOPE YOU YOU'RE
ACCOMPLISHING BY PLACING THAT ON
THE BALLOT. THAT SAME SIGNAL IN
THOSE STATES. MIGHT PROVIDE A
COMPLETELY 180 DEGREES DIFFERENT
VIEW. OF THAT PARTICULAR MEASURE
THAN YOUR ARM VIEW THAT YOU
THINK REFLECTS IN A WAY THAT YOU
HOPE IS POSITIVE HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. AND SO THE STANDARDS
OF NEUTRALITY HAVE TO BE LOOKED
AT. IN ITS ENTIRETY ACROSS ALL
STATES ACROSS ALL POLITICS,
BECAUSE WHAT YOU WANT IS
FAIRNESS. IN THAT PRESENTATION,
FAIRNESS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS
ABOUT AN ARGUMENT OR A SIGNER IN
A BALLOT PAMPHLET. AND YOU
MENTIONED THAT IT ARRIVES 30
DAYS IN SOME CASES BEFORE THE
DEVOTING ENDS. IS THAT YOU GET
THE CHANCE TO DO SOME RESEARCH.
ABOUT THAT NAME THAT SAYS THE
COMMITTEE FOR JUSTICE AND
EQUALITY FOR ALL WHO ARE THEY?
WHERE DO THEY GET THEIR
RESOURCES? WHO'S BEHIND THEM?
WHAT POSITIONS HAVE THEY TAKE IT
IN THE PAST. YOU DO GET AN
OPPORTUNITY AND A VOTER PAMPHLET
TO LOOK AT THAT AND EXAMINE
THAT. WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO THE
BALLOT, AND YOU'RE MAKING YOUR
FINAL CHOICE, AND YOU SEE THE
COMMITTEE FOR EQUALITY AND
JUSTICE FOR ALL DESPITE THIS,
THE STANDARDS THAT YOU HAVE SAID
IN THE BILL BEING IN EXISTENCE
FOR TWO YEARS OF HAVING ONE
EMPLOYEE, WHATEVER THE STANDARDS
ARE IT IS SUBJECT TO ENORMOUS
MANIPULATION. AND I FEAR THAT
WHAT MAY LOOK GOOD AT THE
MOMENT. OVER TIME. WILL CREATE
JUST ANOTHER ELEMENT OF
CAMPAIGNING AND PERSUASION WHEN
THAT BALLOT SHOULD BE OUR LAST
BEST CHANCE TO GIVE THE VOTERS
THE MOST NEUTRAL. INFORMATION
POSSIBLE. I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU
NOTED EARLIER THAT IT MAY BE
ATYPICAL. FOR A CHEER TO HAVE A
BILL HEARD THAT HE OR SHE
DOESN'T SUPPORT I'VE NEVER NOT
HEARD OF BILL IN MY TIME HERE IN
THE LEGISLATURE IN MY EIGHT
YEARS. THERE CAN ALWAYS BE AN
EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE, BUT I
FEEL THAT YOUR BILL IS DESERVING
OF THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION BY
MY COLLEAGUES, AND THAT'S THE
REASON WHY I AGREED TO HEAR IT,
OF COURSE, AND I EXPECT
DIFFERENT VIEW THAT MY OWN TO
COME OUT OF THE HEARING TODAY,
BUT I APPRECIATED THE
THOUGHTFULNESS THAT YOU'VE
BROUGHT TO THIS SENATOR HERZBERG
. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU
WANTED TO ADD? SPARKED AN ISSUE
HERE THAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESSING
THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE I HAVE
BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS LARGER
ISSUE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS ON
MANY PROPOSITIONS ON THE BALLOT.
AND MANY REFORM EFFORTS. AND YOU
KNOW, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS
OFTEN THINGS THAT YOU ENGAGE IN
AND YOU THINK ALREADY AT THE
TIME TURNS OUT TO BE WRONG. AND
YOU COURSE CORRECT. YOU FIGURE
IT OUT. THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN
THIS JOB. AND SO I SUPPORTED 6
36 BY SENATOR STERN AND HAVE
BEEN INVOLVED IN DOZENS AND
DOZENS OF THESE PROPOSITIONS
OVER YEARS DEALING WITH CAMPAIGN
FINANCE DEALING WITH DISCLOSURE.
AND THE LIKE. TWO THINGS COME TO
MIND AS A RESULT OF THE CHAIR
SAID THAT CONCERNING WILL BIT IS
ONE. YEAH TO THE EXTENT AND I'M
GOING TO SUPPORT YOU. I JUST
THINK THAT WE YOU KNOW, THIS IS
A DELIBERATION. WE HAVE TO OUR
JOB IN THESE COMMITTEES TO THINK
THIS STUFF THROUGH THE SCRUB IT
TOO. ASK OURSELVES THE HARD
QUESTIONS. ONE IS THE
COMMITTEE'S MAYBE HAVE TO BE IN
EXISTENCE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME,
SO THEY CAN'T JUST BE BECAUSE
THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS EVERY
GROUP THAT SPENDS A LOT OF MONEY
POLES WHO DOES THE BEST. AND
WHEN THEY PULLED THAT THEY
FORGOT AND ASK THOSE PEOPLE TO
SUPPORT SO ONE. IF YOU COME UP
WITH SOME FANCY NAME RIGHT? IT
COULD PULL REALLY, REALLY WELL.
IN FACT, YOU'RE NOT HELPING THE
VOTERS, BUT YOU'RE DECEIVING THE
VOTERS. BECAUSE SOME GROUP THAT
WANTS TO GET THEIR MEASURE
PASSED OR OPPOSED TO WHATEVER
THE CASE MAY DO THAT. SO IT
SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE HAS TO BE
SOME MATURITY OF WHATEVER THAT
GROUP IS, HAS TO BE AROUND FOR A
PERIOD OF TIME. AND SECOND
PAYMENT. I JUST HAD A BALLOT
MEASURE THAT I WAS ON WHERE
SOMEONE WAS PAID MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS. WHO IS AN ENDORSER ON
AGAINST ME ON SOMETHING THAT I
WAS DOING? IT BASICALLY KILLED
MY MEASURE. AND I THINK THAT
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, OUR
PURPOSES IS HONESTY AND
DISCLOSURE IN GOVERNMENT. AND TO
GET THE MOST AMOUNT OF RESOURCES
AND HONEST WAY TO VOTERS. SO I
WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT MAYBE AS
YOU MOVE THIS FORWARD, YOU THINK
ABOUT HOW LONG THE ORGANIZATION
HAS TO BE EXIST. CAN'T BE JUST
CREATED. AND SECONDLY, MAYBE
THEY'RE DISQUALIFIED AS BEING AN
ENDORSER IF THEY'RE PAID MONEY,
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN
THAT HAPPEN WHERE PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN PAID MONEY THAT I GUESS IT
HAPPENED TO ME. IT WAS A VERY
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON AND A
MEASURE THAT I WAS INVOLVED IN
AND AGAIN. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT VOTERS
WOULD SHOULD CONSIDER AS THEY
WEIGH THIS IN TERMS OF THE
BALLOT. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY
THAT OUT OF THE BILL HAS BEEN
MOVED, BUT I'LL MOVE THE BILL.
VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, SENATOR
HERZBERG ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S I WANT
TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO
CLOSE. YEAH I WANT TO THANK YOU
AGAIN FOR ALLOWING US TO HEAR
THIS AND TO THE SENATOR FROM SAN
FERNANDO VALLEY. AH WE PINNED IT
ABOUT TWO YEARS OF EXISTENCE.
HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU OUTSIDE OF
THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THAT MAGIC MAGIC NUMBER MIGHT BE
TO EXISTENCE. IS IT THREE YEARS
AS A FOUR YEARS, BUT CERTAINLY
YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT SOMEBODY
MAKING UP ORGANIZATION? IS EQUAL
OR CONCERNS. UM SO WHATEVER THAT
NUMBER IS, I'D BE HAPPY TO THINK
WHAT IT IS THROUGH WITH YOU.
BECAUSE I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.
SECOND, THE ISSUE OF PAYMENT. UM. DON'T KNOW HOW WE LEGISLATE
THAT, BUT AND I DO FEEL WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING TO BE HAPPY TO
TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE I
THINK IN THESE CONVERSATIONS
THAT THAT IS ONE PIECE THAT WE
HAVE NOT, UH, TOUCHED ON BECAUSE
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COVERED
UNDER ORGANIZATION FOR TWO YEARS
WITH ONE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE. BUT
IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO
PERHAPS TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
CERTAINLY I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT,
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO
HAPPEN FOR. SURE. ON THE ISSUE.
SO I SHARE THAT CONCERN WITH YOU
ON THE ISSUE OF SOMEBODY PULLING
AND MAKING UP A NAME THAT THAT
THAT FITS THE BEST. THE SIMPLE
ANSWER IS THAT HAPPENS NOW THAT
THE REAL ANSWER IS IT RELATES TO
YOU. NO MORE COMPLEX ANSWER. IS
THAT THE INFORMATION BEING
BEFORE THE PERSON IS THAT WE
HOPE THAT THE VOTER WOULD RELY
ON THOSE TRUSTED ORGANIZATIONS
THAT THEY BUILT A RELATIONSHIP
WITH OVER THE YEARS SO THAT IF
YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZED
DON'T WANT TO POLITICIZE THIS
COMMITTEE. BUT IF YOU HAVE AN
ORGANIZATION, A THAT YOU HAVE
TRUSTED OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
THAT THAT WHEN YOU SEE THAT NAME
THAT'S TRUSTED NAME AS OPPOSED
TO A NEW ORGANIZATION THAT
THAT'S A HOPE THAT WE THINK
WOULD WORK OUT IN ITS SHOWN OVER
THE YEARS TO WORK AS YOU
MENTIONED. THROUGH POLLING
THROUGH OTHER MEANS, BUT ON THE
OTHER TWO YEAH, I WANNA I'D LIKE
TO REVISIT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THAT MAGIC NUMBER IS FOR YEARS.
UM BUT CERTAINLY WOULD
APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT ON THAT.
AND RESPECTFULLY WOULD ASK FOR
MY VOTE. TERRIFIC THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RECOGNIZE THE
MOTION FROM SENATOR HERZBERG.
THIS IS A DO PASS AS AMENDED. AH
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS THAT CORRECT SKY
TERRIFIC. SO WITH THAT MOTION OF
THE SECRETARY WOULD CALL THE
ROLL. A B 14 16 Y
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SANTIAGO DO
PASS AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST
AMENDMENT AND WE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
GLASER GLASER. NO NILSSON
NILSSON NO HERTZBERG HERTZBERG,
LABOR LABOR I NEWMAN. INTO
SUSPENSE BY. ALRIGHT I THINK I
HEARD NEWMAN I DID YOU HEAR THAT
? MAYBE I THINK I DON'T THINK
MAYBE IT DIDN'T COME THROUGH
ADRENALINE JOLT TO MY ALRIGHT.
OKAY THAT BILL IS ABOUT 3 TO 2.
CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. MR. UH,
GLASER, YOU'RE WELCOME, OKAY?
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO FINAL
ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, CERTAINLY
WILL BE AS FINE AS THE LAST ONE.
A B 18 48. WE WANT TO WELCOME
WELCOME ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BRYANT.
OUR CHAIR FROM THE OTHER SIDE,
RESPECTED CHAIR FROM THE OTHER
SIDE TO OUR HEARING ROOM.
WELCOME SIR. AND YOU CAN BEGIN
AND WHENEVER YOU'RE READY
HOPEFULLY, IT'S NOT AS MUCH FUN
AS THE LAST BILL, BUT THANK YOU,
CHAIR GLAZER AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. IT'S GREAT TO BE WITH
YOU TODAY. FOR THE BETTER PART
OF A DECADE. WE'VE TRIED TO
ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF PRISON
GERRYMANDERING THAT IS COUNTING
INCARCERATED PEOPLE POLITICALLY
IN THE PLACE, WHICH THEY ARE
INCARCERATED INSTEAD OF THE
COMMUNITIES FROM WHICH THEY COME
FROM. WILL RETURN TO FOLLOWING
INCARCERATION IN 2011, THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED THE BILL A B
4 20, WHICH REQUESTED THAT THE
INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING
COMMISSION CONSIDER COUNTING
PEOPLE WHO ARE INCARCERATED FROM
THEIR LAST KNOWN ADDRESS FOR
PURPOSES OF POLITICAL
REPRESENTATION. THE INDEPENDENT
REDISTRICTING COMMISSION THIS
LAST YEAR DECIDED OVERWHELMINGLY
TO ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION
AND DO THAT FOR THE FIRST
PROCESS WHEN THEY DREW THESE
MAPS THIS LAST DECEMBER. THEY
FOUND GREAT SUCCESS IN THAT. IN
A LOT OF PRIDE IN THAT, AND THEY
MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
LEGISLATOR AND WHAT WE COULD DO
TO CHANGE THIS PROCESS GOING
FORWARD, AND ONE OF THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO MAKE THIS
A PERMANENT FEATURE OF
REDISTRICTING. IN CALIFORNIA,
AND THAT IS WHY I HAVE AUTHORED
A B 18 48 TO END THE PRACTICE OF
PRISON. JEREMY ENDURING FOREVER
THAT ALL FUTURE POLITICAL
BOUNDARIES ARE DRAWN WHERE WE
COUNT INCARCERATED PEOPLE FROM
THEIR LAST KNOWN ADDRESS, AND
NOT THE ARBITRARY PLACE IN WHICH
THEY ARE CURRENTLY HELD. AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE
WITH ME TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
IS ALICIA FERNANDEZ. SHE'S ONE
OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CALIFORNIA
CITIZENS REDISTRICTING
COMMISSION. THANK YOU
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AND WE WELCOME
THIS FERNANDEZTO OUR AH,
HEARING I THINK THROUGH THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. IS THAT
CORRECT? OKAY MODERATOR, IF YOU
WOULD INVITE MR FERNANDEZ TO
SHARE HER TESTIMONY. HER LINE
SHOULD BE OPEN AT THIS TIME. MS
FERNANDEZ, ARE YOU THERE?
MORNING. WE CAN HEAR YOU. I'M
HERE. YES. PLEASE PROCEED. GREAT
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. ALICIA FERNANDEZ,
COMMISSIONER ON THE 2020,
CALIFORNIA CITIZENS
REDISTRICTING COMMISSION. THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THIS
IMPORTANT CHANGE BEFORE THIS
COMMITTEE A B 18 48, AMONG OTHER
CHANGES CEMENT AND NEEDED
REDISTRICTING CHANGE IN THE LAW
REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE
STATE CORRECTIONAL INMATES IN
CALIFORNIA PRISONS. IN THE
CURRENT CODE LANGUAGE, THE
LEGISLATURE REQUEST THE
CALIFORNIA CITIZEN JURIES
DECISION COMMISSION COUNT EACH
INCARCERATED PERSON AT HIS OR
HER LAST KNOWN ADDRESS PRIOR TO
INCARCERATION. A B 18 48 WOULD
INSTEAD REQUIRE THE CALIFORNIA
CITIZENS REDISTRICTING
COMMISSION AFTER EACH CENSUS TO
COUNT EACH INCARCERATED PERSON
AT HIS HER HOLD HER LAST KNOWN
ADDRESS, RATHER THAN AT THE
PLACE OF INCARCERATION. THE 2020
COMMISSION DID JUST THAT
BELIEVES THAT MAKES SENSE FOR
THIS TO BE AN AUTOMATIC RATHER
THAN A REQUEST FOR EACH FUTURE
COMMISSION TO DECIDE EVERY 10
YEARS. COUNTING EACH
INCARCERATED PERSON AT THE LAST
KNOWN ADDRESS MAKES FAR MORE
SENSE THAN THE PLACE OF
INCARCERATION. DOING THE LADDER
ONLY ARTIFICIALLY DRIVES UP
NUMBERS IN THE COUNTY WITH THE
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY.
ADDITIONALLY INCARCERATED
PERSONS DO NOT INTEND TO REMAIN
IN A CORRECTIONAL FACILITY AN
IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION WHEN
DETERMINING RESIDENT STATUS.
LAST NIGHT. INCARCERATED PERSONS
ADDRESS IS A FAR FAIRER
DETERMINATION TO COUNT
INCARCERATED PERSONS RATHER THAN
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY. I THANK
YOU ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BRIAN FOR
AUTHORING THIS BILL. I WOULD BE
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU, MISS FERNANDEZ. YOU
KNOW, FOR THE PAST YEAR, WE WERE
STRONGLY ADVISED NOT TO SPEAK TO
ANYBODY ON THE REDISTRICTING
COMMISSION. SO IT'S NICE THAT AT
THIS POINT IN TIME YOU CAN
PARTICIPATE IN OUR CONVERSATION
. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU
AND YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR THE HARD
WORK THAT YOU ENGAGED IN IN
CREATING OUR NEW DISTRICT LINES,
OKAY? WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW TO
OTHER WITNESSES IN FAVOR OF
ASSEMBLY. BILL 18 48. ANYONE
HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM? PLEASE
COME UP VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA AND
VERY STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU
ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM? SEEN. NO ONE ELSE WILL GO
TO THE PHONE LINES. MODERATOR
WOULD YOU INVITE ANYONE TO SPEAK
IN FAVOR OF 18 48? WE'RE JUST
TAKING NAME AND AFFILIATION AT
THIS POINT NOW AND THEY'RE
HEARING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. PRESS
ONE, THEN ZERO. AT THIS TIME,
WE'LL GO TO LINE 57 GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. GOOD MORNING, MRS
STATELY WITH ASIAN AMERICANS
ADVANCING JUSTICE CALIFORNIA
WORD SUPPORT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE
ONE OTHER LINE IN Q ONE MOMENT
WHILE WE PROVIDE THEIR LINE
NUMBER.
LINE. 46 GO AHEAD, PLEASE. LINE
46. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. VERY
NOTHING WILL MOVE ON. THERE ARE
NORTHERN LINES IN CUBA AT THIS
TIME. GREAT. THANK YOU.
MODERATOR WILL MOVE TO THE
OPPOSITION SIDE OF THE HEARING.
ANYONE HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM
WISH TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO
A B 18 48. SEEN NO ONE LEAPING
TO THEIR FEET WILL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES. MODERATOR WOULD YOU
ASK IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO 18 48? TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO
WILL GO TO LINE 47. WHY DON'T
YOU HAVE OPPOSING LINE 28. HEY
THIS IS ROB. WANNA ACTUALLY
PRESS THE PRESS MY NUMBER TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT WITH
UNREGULATED? UM, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME. BUYING 54. YES, I'M
CALLING FROM PLEASURE COUNTY. I
AM OPPOSED. AND MR CHAIRMAN.
THERE ARE NO FURTHER LINES IN
CUBA THIS TIME. TERRIFIC THANK
YOU. MODERATOR THANKS FOR ALL
YOUR GOOD WORK TODAY WILL BRING
THE MATTER BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
SENATOR LEYVA THEN SENATOR
HERZBERG. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I
JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD AS
SOMEONE WHO HAS TO PRISONS IN
THEIR DISTRICT. I APPRECIATE
THAT PEOPLE'S VOTES WOULD BE
COUNTED WHERE THEY ACTUALLY
LIVE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I WOULD SAY TO YOUR WITNESS
THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE
WITH THE REDISTRICTING LINES AS
SOMEONE WHO GOT REDISTRICTED
INTO ANOTHER PERSON'S DISTRICT,
SO BUT, YOU KNOW, HEY, THINGS
CHANGE, BUT THANK YOU. I'D LIKE
TO MOVE THE BILL WHEN
APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU, SENATOR
HERTZBERG. WHY IS THIS BILL
IMPORTANT? OH, MY GOSH. I'M
SERIOUS. THINK ABOUT IT FOR A
SECOND. I MEAN, IT'S IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT
THESE THINGS. I MEAN, I'M THE
LAST PERSON ACTUALLY DO
REDISTRICTING BEFORE THE
COMMISSION'S AND WE DROPPED
GRAPPLED WITH THIS QUESTION.
PEOPLE AT UNIVERSITIES RIGHT?
THEY GET COUNTED AT THE
UNIVERSITY, RIGHT? AND PEOPLE
HAVE ALL KINDS OF TEMPORARY JOBS
IN THE MILITARY AND HOW WE DO
THAT, IN TERMS OF HOW WE MAKE
THESE COUNTS, AND I THINK THE
ANSWER THE QUESTION IS YOU'RE ON
THE RIGHT TRACK. I JUST THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS HEARING
THE PURPOSE OF THE HEARING IS TO
ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS. AND NOT
JUST TO REACT, BUT IT'S
IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE
IN MY JUDGMENT I THOUGHT ABOUT
THIS A LOT. THE DIFFERENCE IN
IT'S THE RIGHT THING, AND I
SUPPORT IT. IS THAT THE REASON
FOR REDISTRICTING? IN TERMS OF
COUNTING PEOPLE IS WHAT'S THE
IMPOSITION ON COSTS OF
GOVERNMENT ON SERVICES WHERE
PEOPLE LIVE FOR REDISTRIBUTION
ABOUT OF RESOURCES, RIGHT? UM IF
YOU IF YOU'RE INCARCERATED,
SETTING YOU ALREADY PAID FOR,
AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING JOBS AND
THOSE THINGS AND YOU DON'T HAVE
AN IMPACT, POSITIVE OR
NEGATIVELY. YOU MIGHT HAVE
POSITIVE IN TERMS OF PEOPLE
GETTING JOBS, BUT YOU HAVE AN
IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITIES WHERE
THESE THINGS CHECK WHERE WHERE
YOU'RE MOVING. BUT IF YOU'RE AT
A UNIVERSITY, WHERE STUDENTS OR
SOME OTHER TEMPORARY JOBS,
THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF
CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN WE THINK
ABOUT THIS, WHERE YOU DO HAVE AN
IMPACT ON SOCIETY. YOU DO HAVE
AN IMPACT ON THE ROAD. YOU DO
HAVE AN IMPACT ON SO MANY OTHER
ASPECTS OF SERVICES THAT YOU
MIGHT OTHERWISE NEED TO GET FROM
GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS THE ENTIRE
PURPOSE OF REDISTRICTING. SO I
MEAN, I THINK IT'S JUST I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK IT'S THE
RIGHT THING TO DO. AND UM, YOU
KNOW, I'M SUPPORTIVE, BUT I JUST
WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION,
BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW THAT'S
THAT'S OUR JOB IN THESE
HEARINGS, AND WE GOT TO THINK
ABOUT THAT STUFF. AND OBVIOUSLY
YOU HAVE BECAUSE YOU INTRODUCED
THE BILL, BUT I WANT TO JUST PUT
ON THE RECORD. IS THAT WHAT MY
THOUGHTS WERE IN THAT REGARD? SO
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU,
SENATOR HERZBERG. OTHER
COMMENTS, SENATOR NEWMAN. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. SO, MR BRYANT,
YOU KNOW, WANT TO ALIGN MYSELF
WITH THE COMMENTS OF WE'LL HAVE
THE COMMENTS OF SENATOR LAILA
NOW EXCLUDING THE REDISTRICT
COMING BUT BUT ALSO TO SENATOR
HERTZBERG'S AS WELL. TO ADD
ANOTHER. ANOTHER PURPOSE OF
REDISTRICTING IS TO ENSURE THAT
THE LINES ARE DRAWN SUCH THAT
THAT YOU KNOW EACH JURISDICTION
SPEAKS EFFECTIVELY WITH THE SAME
WEIGHT. UH AND THAT YOU FULLY
ACCOUNT FOR THE RESIDENTS AND
CONSTITUENTS IN THAT DISTRICT,
AND SO YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT.
ON THIS BILL. I THINK YOU'RE
RIGHT THAT IT'S NOT CORRECT. TO
ASSIGN INCARCERATED PEOPLE TO
INCLUDE THEM IN WAITING
DISTRICTS, WHEN, IN FACT TO YOUR
VERY VALID POINT, YOU KNOW, WE
SHOULD CONSIDER WHERE THEY ARE
FROM BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY DON'T
INTEND TO STAY IN THAT DISTRICT.
IN PERPETUITY. AND SO, YOU KNOW,
COMMEND YOU ON THE BILL. GLAD TO
SUPPORT IT, DID YOU? YOU OFFER
TO MOVE IT OVER YOU THINK BUT I
LOVE BEING OUT WITH, YOU KNOW, I
WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK TO BE
ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR IN THE
EVENT THAT IS AMENDED. SO THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEE NO FOR
FURTHER COMMENTS. AH SOMETHING,
REMEMBER? YOU'RE WELCOME TO
CLOSE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SUPPORT. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JUST
TO BE CLEAR WITH THIS BILL. IT
ACTUALLY DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING
TO DO. WITH REALLOCATION OF
FUNDS JUST IN POLITICAL
REPRESENTATION IN TERMS OF
DRAWING THE BOUNDARIES. UH AND
IT'S A IT'S AN ITERATIVE PROCESS
AND MANY COMMUNITIES WITH LARGE
PRISON INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE
ONLY BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY.
IN THAT DISTRICT IS THE PRISON.
RIGHT AND IT'S NOT THE HOME
COMMUNITIES FROM WHICH FOLKS ARE
FROM, UH THANK YOU. YOU CAN'T
VOTE CURRENTLY WHILE YOU'RE
INCARCERATED, BUT I'M HAPPY TO
WORK WITH ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE
TO VOTE ON WORK ON THAT YOU CAN
VOTE WHEN YOU'RE ON A
SUPERVISION AND ON PAROLE NOW,
THANKS TO PROP 17. BUT THE LAST
POINT I'LL MAKE IS THAT WE SPEND
A LOT OF TIME IN THE LEGISLATOR.
YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS INCHED BY
INCH AND STEP BY STEP, AND WE
LAY THE GROUNDWORK TO MAKE THE
NEXT MOVE TO MAKE THE NEXT MOVE.
THIS IS THE BILL THAT ENDS THE
WORK ON PRISON. JERRY JERRY
MANDARIN THAT'S BEEN GOING ON
FOR WELL OVER A DECADE. AND SO I
THINK THAT'S A SUCCESS THAT THE
LEGISLATOR SHOULD HAVE THIS YEAR
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HAPPY TO
SUPPORT YOUR BILL AS WELL TODAY
APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS
AND BRINGING IT FORWARD AND ALSO
YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THE ASSEMBLY
ON ELECTION MATTERS. SO WITH
THAT, I'M RECOGNIZING THAT
MOTION FROM SENATOR LEYVA. THIS
IS THAT DO PASS. UM FIRST WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. IS THAT CORRECT
? OKAY WITH THAT THE SECRETARY
WOULD CALL THE ROLL. A B 18 48
BRIAN GLASER GLASER I. NILSSON
NILSSON NO HERZBERG HERZBERG
LABOR LABOR. I NEWMAN NEWMAN.
AYE. ALRIGHT THAT BILL IS OUT 4
TO 1. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY THAT
BILLS AT 4 TO 1 MEMBERS WERE
GOING TO COME BACK TO THE
CONSENT COUNTER. WE'RE LOOKING
FOR AUTHORS IS THAT CORRECT? WE
HAVE AN AUTHOR HERE, GREAT AS
HE'S COMING UP, LET'S ASK THE
SECRETARY TO CALL THE ROLL AGAIN
AND THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THIS
IS ITEM FOUR AND ITEM 10. ON THE
CONTENT CALENDAR. NILSSON
NILSSON I HERZBERG HERZBERG.
AYE. OKAY, TERRIFIC. THOSE BOTH
THOSE MEASURES ARE OUT 5 TO 0.
OKAY WE WELCOME THE SELLING
MEMBER ARAMBULA. THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE. THIS IS ASSEMBLY
BILL 2030 HIGHLIGHT OF NUMBER
THREE. AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO
BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND SENATORS.
MAYBE 2030 WILL PUT VOTERS FIRST
BY REMOVING THE INHERENT
CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHEN BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS ARE INVOLVED IN
DECISIONS OF REDRAWING POLITICAL
BOUNDARIES. A B 2030 WILL
ESTABLISH THE COUNTY OF FRESNO
CITIZENS REDISTRICTING
COMMISSION TO DRAW DISTRICT
BOUNDARIES FOR THE FRESNO COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
GERRYMANDERING ALLOWS ELECTED
REPRESENTATIVES TO CHOOSE THE
VOTERS IN THEIR DISTRICTS,
RATHER THAN ALLOWING THE VOTERS
TO ELECT THEIR REPRESENTATIVES
IN A LAWFUL AND FAIR ELECTION.
THIS PRACTICE OF GERRYMANDERING
HAS DISENFRANCHISED UNDER
REPRESENTED COMMUNITIES,
INCLUDING COMMUNITIES OF COLOR,
THUS DILUTING THEIR VOTING
POWER. MAPS DRAWN BY LOCAL
COMMUNITY GROUPS, WHICH TOOK
INTO ACCOUNT THE GROWING
DEMOGRAPHICS OF LATINO COMMUNITY
MEMBERS, AS REFLECTED IN THE
CENSUS. WAS STRUCK DOWN BY THE
FRESNO COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS. THE DISTRICT MAP
ADOPTED BY THE FRESNO COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WAS MET
WITH WIDESPREAD LOCAL
OPPOSITION. A CITIZEN'S
REDISTRICTING COMMISSION WILL
PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF
DRAWING POLITICAL LINES IN THE
HANDS OF AN INDEPENDENT GROUP OF
FRESNO COUNTY VOTERS, ENSURING
THAT THE VOICES OF OUR COMMUNITY
IS HEARD. I HAVE THE FOLLOWING
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT OF A B
2030 TODAY. CAMILLA CHAVEZ,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE
DELORES WORD THAT FOUNDATION.
OKAY THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WE HAVE YOUR LEAD WITNESS HERE.
THAT'S CAMILLA CHÁVEZ. SHE HERE
IN PERSON OR ON THE PHONE LINES.
I'M SORRY ON THE PHONE LINES.
OKAY, GREAT. MODERATOR WOULD YOU
WELCOME MISS CHAVEZ TO OUR
HEARING ROOM, PLEASE? HI. GOOD
MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN
HEAR YOU JUST GREAT. GOOD
MORNING, SO I'M GONNA BE LIKE
TRAVIS, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF THE GALLERY FOUNDATION, VHF
ESTABLISHED THAT EQUITABLE MAPS
CALLED LISTEN, THAT EMPOWERED
5000 RESIDENTS TO ENGAGE IN THE
REDISTRICTING PROCESSES. AT ALL
LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT DURING LAST
YEAR'S REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
FRESNO COUNTY'S ADVISORY
COMMISSION MEMBERS WERE
APPOINTED BY SUPERVISORS TO
PROVIDE COVER FOR THE ADOPTION
OF A MAP THAT PROTECTED THEIR
INTEREST. THE COMMISSION DID NOT
IN ANY WAY REFLECT THE ACTUAL
DEMOGRAPHIC OR POLITICAL
DIVERSITY OF FRESNO COUNTY,
WHICH IS OVER 70% PEOPLE OF
COLOR AND DEMOCRATS PULLED A
SEVEN POINT VOTER REGISTRATION
ADVANTAGE. THE COMMISSION HAD
NOT ONE AFRICAN AMERICAN ARAB
MONK OR PUNJABI MEMBER, AND ONLY
THREE LATINOS, EVEN THOUGH
LATINOS ARE OVER 50% OF THE
POPULATION. EIGHT OF THE 11
COMMISSIONERS, WHERE REPUBLICAN
INCLUDING TWO OF THE THREE
LATINO MEMBERS, A RATIO OUT OF
ALIGNMENT WITH THE PERCENTAGE OF
REPUBLICAN VOTERS. THE
COMMISSION'S PROCESS WAS EQUALLY
UNREPRESENTATIVE. HUNDREDS OF
PERSONAL COUNTY RESIDENTS,
INCLUDING RECORD MEMBERS OF
CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED CLASS
MEMBERS ADVOCATED FOR EQUITABLE
MASK FOR MONTHS. WITH NO REMOTE
OPTION OFFERED PEOPLE TO TIME
OFF WORK. ARRANGE CHILDCARE AND
TRANSPORTATION, SOME TRAVELING
RELIEF BARS TO RISK THEMSELVES
IN THE PANDEMIC. DURING ONE
HEARING FARMWORKERS WERE OPENLY
HARASSED BY WHITE PREMISYS AND
THE COUNTY DID NOTHING. WE EVEN
HAD TO PROVIDE OUR OWN SPANISH
INTERPRETATION TO BE HEARD. THE
COMMISSION COMPLETELY IGNORED
THE TESTIMONIES OF HUNDREDS OF
RESIDENTS AND RECOMMENDED THE
ADOPTION OF A REPUBLICAN
OPERATIVE MAP. A MASK THAT
HADN'T EVEN BEEN VETTED BY THE
DEMOGRAPHER CONSULTANTS BECAUSE
BY THE AUTHOR'S OWN ADMISSION,
HE HAD TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS
BECAUSE QUOTE THE DATA WAS
WRONG. WHEN THE PROCESS MOVED TO
THE BOARD ITSELF. WE KNEW THE
FIX WAS IN WHEN ONLY THE CHAIR
OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND
ANOTHER REPUBLICANS SHOWED UP TO
SUPPORT THEIR MAP. ALL OTHER
SPEAKERS OVERWHELMINGLY OPPOSED
THIS MAP. IN THE RECENT PRIMARY
ELECTION, FRESNO MAP PROVED AS
CORRUPT AS A PROCESS THAT
CREATED IT WHEN IT FAILED TO
ELECT CANDIDATES OF CHOICE FOR
PROTECTED CLASSES. IT'S TIME FOR
THE PEOPLE OF FRESNO COUNTY HAVE
A TRULY INDEPENDENT
REDISTRICTING COMMISSION. WE
THINK ASSEMBLY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
ARAMBULA AND THIS COMMITTEE FOR
YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE
AND RESPECT THEM. RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE ON A B 2030.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR CHAVEZ.
THAT'S THE LEAD WITNESS IN FAVOR
OF THE BILL. THERE'S ANYBODY
ELSE IN OUR HEARING ROOM THAT
WISHES TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
AND WE'RE ASKING NOW OFFERED
NAME AND AFFILIATION. PHOTOS OF
CALIFORNIA DOOR ROSE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. RUTH
DASSIN WITH CALIFORNIA ACTION
AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SEE, NO ONE ELSE HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM WILL GO TO OUR
TELECONFERENCE LINE MODERATOR.
YOU ASK ANYONE WHO WISHES TO
TESTIFY IN FAVOR OF 2030. MAYBE
2032 PLEASE. SO INDICATE TO
TESTIFY IN FAVOR. PRESS ONE DÂN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE'LL GO TO
LINE 64 GO AHEAD, PLEASE. GOOD
MORNING. THIS IS STOLE GOLOTA.
IN AN PRESIDENT FROM PRESIDENT
COUNTY AND I'M JUST SUPPORTING
STRONGLY THAT 2030 THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. 9 27. GOOD AFTERNOON
SHARING MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
ELIANA HONEYCUTT, CALLING IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 2030 ON
BEHALF OF THE DOLLAR FOUNDATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. FIND 59. THIS
IS PATSY MONTGOMERY, PRESIDENT
COUNTY IN SUPPORT WITH PLANNED
PARENTHOOD MONUMENT. LINE 49.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CECILIA
DELGADO, THE REST OF THE MEXICAN
COUNTY WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS,
SMALL COUNTY AND I AM CALLING
AND STRONG SUPPORT OF MAYBE
2030. THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN.
THERE ARE NO FURTHER LINES IN
QUÊ TERRIFIC WILL MOVE TO THE
OPPOSITION SIDE OF THE LEDGER
NOW IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE
HEARING THAT WISHES TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION? YES, MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS. GOOD MORNING, PAUL
LIOTTA. AND WE HAVE THE
PRESIDENT COUNTY BOARD
SUPERVISES. THE BOARD HAS ASKED
ME TO READ. THE FOLLOWING FACTS
INTO THE RECORD AND REQUEST A NO
VOTE ON THIS BILL. THE FINAL
SUPERVISORIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARY
MAPS ADOPTED BY FRESNO COUNTY ON
DECEMBER. 14TH 2021 RETAINS
THREE EFFECTIVE LATINO CITIZEN
VOTING AGE POPULATION. MAJORITY
MINORITY DISTRICTS SIMILAR TO
THE THREE C VAP MAJORITY
MINORITY DISTRICTS PROPOSED IN
MAPS SUBMITTED BY VARIOUS
SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS AND HAS
A POPULATION DEVIATION OF 1.48.
IN ADDITION, THE ADOPTED
SUPERVISORIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARY
MAP COMPLIES WITH THE FEDERAL
VOTING RIGHTS VOTING RIGHTS ACT
AND THE U. S AND CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTIONS. THE DISTRICTS ARE
CONTINUOUS, AND TO THE EXTENT
PRACTICABLE. THEY KEEP
COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST CITIES
AND CENSUS DESIGNATED PLACES
UNDIVIDED. THE MAP ALSO HAS
EASILY IDENTIFY IDENTIFIABLE
BOUNDARIES. INTO THE EXTENT
PRACTICABLE KEEPS EACH
SUPERVISORIAL DISTRICT BOUNDARY
COMPACT. AND DOES NOT FAVOR
DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THE
POLITICAL PARTY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR YODER.
ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM, WHICH IS TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. SEE, NO ONE WILL GO
TO THE TELECONFERENCE LINE
MODERATOR, WOULD YOU ASK IF
ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION? SO INDICATE SPEAKING
OPPOSITION PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. WILL OPEN LINE 47
GO AHEAD. WE OPPOSE THIS. FLYING
54. MY NAME IS DOING THE FREE
AND CALLING TO OPPOSE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH, ANYONE. AND THIS IS
SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ, CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL LOADERS CALLING IN
SUPPORT. LINE 70. FIND 70. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. NO. GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. OH, I'M AN ANGEL ISLAND
PRESIDENT. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF
MAYBE 2030. MR CHAIRMAN. THERE
ARE NO FURTHER LINES IN. Q THANK
YOU. ALL THOSE FOLKS WHO
TESTIFIED THIS MORNING. WE
APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE GOING TO
BRING THE MATTER BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS. IT'S THAT SCENE SEEN
ANA ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ARAMBULA
WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A NIGHT.
GOOD. THANK YOU. AND WE'VE HEARD
A NUMBER OF BILLS THAT CREATE
THESE TYPES OF COMMISSIONS AND
DIFFERENT REGIONAL OR LOCAL
AREAS, AND IT'S BEEN MY PRACTICE
TO DEFER TO THE LEGISLATORS FROM
THOSE AREAS WHO KNOW THOSE
COMMUNITIES BEST AND TO TAKE
THAT GUIDANCE AS YOU ARE
PROVIDING TO US. TODAY WITH THAT
I'M HAPPY TO BE SUPPORTIVE OVER
THE BILL AND I SEE A MOTION FROM
SENATOR LABOR. SHE LOVES
REDISTRICTING. UH, ALRIGHT, THIS
IS AH DO PASS FIRST REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNANCE AND
FINANCE. THE SECRETARY COULD
CALL THE ROLL. A B 2030 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AT AMBULANCE
LASER EYE. NILSSON NILSSON. NO,
HERTZBERG HERTZBERG, I LEVER
LEVER. NEWMAN NEWMAN? AYE.
ALRIGHT THAT BILL IS AT 4 TO 1.
THANK YOU, MR ASSEMBLYMAN. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT WE'RE
GOING TO MOVE NOW TO FILE ITEM
FIVE. I SAW ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT HERE. RECALL ELECTIONS
FOR LOCAL OFFICES.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WELCOME TO THE
COMMITTEE. AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO
BEGIN AT YOUR THAT ANY TIME
YOU'RE READY, THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE A B 25 82
STRAIGHTFORWARD MEASURE THAT
SEEKS TO SIMPLIFY THE RECALL
PROCESS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. UM
THIS COMMITTEE YOUR COMMITTEE AS
WELL AS MANY OF US OVER THE LAST
YEAR AND A HALF. WE'VE BEEN
FOCUSED ON RECALL AND TRYING TO
IMPROVE THE PROCESS HERE. A B 25
82 ALLOWS VOTERS TO FOCUS SOLELY
ON WHETHER THEY AGREE WITH THE
STEWARDSHIP OF THE OFFICIAL
BEING RECALLED. AND IF THE
RECALL IS SUCCESSFUL, THEN THE
SEAT IS FILLED ACCORDING TO LAW.
DIFFERENT AGENCIES HAVE
DIFFERENT WAYS OF FILLING THE
SEATS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AND
THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MUCH MORE
APPROPRIATE AT OUR LOCAL LEVEL.
I CERTAINLY HAVE SEEN HIGH
INCOME INDVIDUALS FINANCE OR
RECALL SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY
WANTED TO RUN FOR THE OFFICE, UM
, AND FOUND THAT THAT WAS A
BETTER WAY FOR THEM TO TRY TO
TAKE THE SEAT AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL. SO IT'S A GOOD GOVERNMENT
THING TO DO ALLOWS VOTERS TO PUT
THEIR ATTENTION TOWARDS THE
DEFICIENCIES OR THE SUCCESSES OF
THOSE BEING RECALLED AND
STUDYING TO HAVING TO EVALUATE
THE QUESTION WHILE ALSO TRYING
TO EVALUATE OTHER CANDIDATES AT
THE SAME TIME. WE HAVE, BUT I
APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT ILLEGAL
WOMEN VOTERS WILL BE TESTIFYING
. THEY'RE NOT OFFICIALLY
TESTIFYING TODAY, BUT I KNOW
THAT THEY HAVE REVIEWED THIS
CAREFULLY AND IT'S BEEN ONE OF
THE IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR THEM.
AND THAT IS THE WHOLE SECTORIAL
PROCESS FOR US. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AND THANK YOU
FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN OUR
HEARINGS EARLIER THIS YEAR,
APPRECIATE YOUR INVOLVEMENT AND
OBVIOUSLY LET'S SEE THE RESULTS
OF THAT IN THIS GOOD BILL THAT
WE'RE ABOUT TO CONSIDER TODAY SO
WE'LL GO TO OTHER WITNESSES HERE
IN THE HEARING ROOM IN FAVOR OF
THIS LEGISLATION. PLEASE COME
COME ON FORWARD. OR ROSE LEGAL
WOMEN VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL. THANK YOU
ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM IN SUPPORT WILL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES MODERATOR, IF YOU
CAN ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO
WISHES TO TESTIFY IN FAVOR OF 25
82. TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. PRESS
ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
BLOCK IN LINE 62 OR HEAD,
PLEASE. 5 62 YEAR LINE IS OPEN.
ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. LET'S MAKE
CERTAIN YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GO
AHEAD, PLEASE. WHILE 62 GO
AHEAD. HELLO THIS IS OR HEATLEY
WAS REBUILD CALIFORNIA DOT COM
AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL. UM,
PRIMARILY BECAUSE YOU KNOW? THE
RECALL PROCESS IS DIRECT
DEMOCRACY IS OF THE PEOPLE BY
THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE
AND IT WAS WRITTEN IN A MANNER
IN A WAY. THEY KEEP THE
LEGISLATORS HANDS THIS MORNING
SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANY INPUT ON
THE REASONS BEHIND A RESULT.
NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. LINE 68.
RANDY HICKS, A CITIZEN IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE. LINE
53. CATHERINE AND PLASTER COUNTY
AND STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. MR CHAIRMAN. THERE ARE NO
FURTHER LINES IN QUÊ. ALRIGHT AH
, WE'RE GOING TO GO NOW TO
OPPOSITION ANYONE HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM IN OPPOSITION. GO
TO THE PHONE LINES. MODERATOR.
ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. SPEAKING OPPOSITION
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. WOULD ALIGN 54. YES THIS
IS LINDA AND PASTA. CONNIE. I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. NEXT CALL SEVEN. YOU NEED
TO HAVE WITNESSES. LINE 26.
MEDIA HOLIDAY SANTA CLARA COUNTY
STRONGLY OPPOSED THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE.
THERE ARE NO FURTHER LINES IN Q
WILL BRING THE MATTER BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. SEE SENATOR NEWMAN,
QUICK TO HIS BUTTON SHOULD GET
ON JEOPARDY. YOU COULD BE REALLY
GOOD. THIS HAPPENS TO BE A
SUBJECT THAT I FIND INTERESTING.
UH, JUST, YOU KNOW. IN MY LINE
OF WORK. STUDY THESE THINGS. SO
MR BENNETT, THANK THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL. UM AND YOU
KNOW TO MR HEATLEY'S COMMENTS
EARLIER. I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR
YOU. THE GOAL HERE IS NOT TO
MAKE RECALLS. LESS DEMOCRATIC OR
EVEN LESS LIKELY, THE GOAL IS TO
MAKE THEM MORE TO BASICALLY
REESTABLISHED THE RECALL. AS A
MATTER OF INTEGRITY AS OPPOSED
TO A POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY,
RIGHT? AND SO I HAVE A SIMILAR
MEASURE S SEACM SIX, WHICH WOULD
DO EFFECT OF THE SAME THING AT
THE STATE LEVEL. I WOULD INVITE
YOU TO JOIN US A CO AUTHOR, I'D
LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR
TO YOUR BILL. UH, AND VERY GLAD
TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY. GREAT.
THANK YOU, SENATOR NEWMAN. ANY
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SEE
NONE. I ALSO JOINED SENATOR
NEWMAN AND EXPRESSING MY SUPPORT
FOR THIS MEASURE. I WOULD LIKE
TO SEE THIS ON THE STATE LEVEL.
AND I HOPE THAT SOMETIME IN THE
FUTURE WE CAN HAVE A REFORM AS
THOUGHTFUL AS THIS EXERCISE FOR
OUR STATE OFFICES AS WELL. SO WE
THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT
AND LEADERSHIP ON DOING THIS.
SUCH INAPPROPRIATE WAY WE FIGHT
YOU TOO CLOSE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. AND SENATOR NEWMAN. AYE.
APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
BE A CO AUTHOR, AND I APPRECIATE
THE OPPORTUNITY AND I WILL
BECOME A CO AUTHOR OF YOUR BILL,
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A
NIGHT. OKAY SO WE DO WE HAVE A
MOTION. I'M GONNA TAKE SENATOR
NEWMAN AS HIS WORD THAT HE
ACTUALLY WANTS TO MOVE THIS
BILL. HE DOES SO WE DO HAVE
EMOTION DO PASSES THIS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. NO. THIS IS TO
PASS TO THE FLOOR. WHERE YOU GET
THE E TICKET HERE FOR THOSE WHO
ARE AGED DISNEYLAND RIDERS FROM
THE PAST, SO WITH THAT THE
SECRETARY WOULD CALL THE ROLL. A
B 25 82 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT GLASER. NILSSON NILSSON
NO, HERTZBERG. FRITZ BERG LEVER
LEVER, I, NEWMAN NEWMAN. I
ALRIGHT. THAT BILL IS ABOUT 4 TO
1. I SEE. WE HAVE ANOTHER
EXTRAORDINARY AUTHORS HAS
ENTERED THE ROOM.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S LOW WE WELCOME
YOU TO THE COMMITTEE. YOU HAVE
UP ITEM NUMBER NINE A B 28 41.
WE CAN BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY.
THANK YOU AND WELCOME. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND COLLEAGUES.
I'M PROUD TO PRESENT ASSEMBLY
BILL 28 41, WHICH HELPS TO
ENSURE GREATER PARTICIPATION,
INTEGRITY AND OUR VOTER PROCESS.
WITH ME TODAY IS RUTH DAWSON
FROM THE PANDORA ROSE FROM THE
LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS WHO ALSO
WISH TO SHARE THEIR TESTIMONY.
THANK YOU FOR SENDING MEMBER
YOU'RE ALWAYS KNOWN FOR THE LONG
WINDED OPENINGS TO YOUR BILLS.
WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WE
WELCOME YOUR WITNESSES. MS
DAWSON AND THIS ROSE, WHO WOULD
LIKE TO GO FIRST? FIRST SINCE
I'M SITTING SO CLOSE DORA ROSES
LEGAL VOTERS IN CALIFORNIA AND
WE ARE CO SPONSORS OF A B 2841
ALONG WITH THE VALUE. THANK YOU
FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY TO TALK
ABOUT THE SPILL. I'M GOING TO
SPEAK TO THE PART OF BILL
RELATED TO PREVENTING
INAPPROPRIATE VOTER REGISTRATION
PURGES, AND RUTH IS GOING TO
SPEAK TO THE BILL. RELATED TO
THE PART ON CONSERVATORSHIP. SO
REGULAR VOTER ROLL MAINTENANCE
REQUIRES ELECTIONS OFFICIALS TO
REMOVE PEOPLE FROM THE ROLES FOR
A VARIETY OF REASONS, RIGHT. A
JUDGMENT OF MENTAL INCOMPETENCY
BY THE COURT, PRISON
INCARCERATION, DEATH OR WHEN
THERE IS AN INDICATION THAT
SOMEONE HAS MOVED AND THEY
HAVEN'T UPDATED THEIR
REGISTRATION OR VOTED IN THE
FOUR YEAR PERIOD. THAT'S THE
NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION ACT
PROCESS. UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE
ERRORS IN THE PIPELINE OF
REPORTING SYSTEMS THAT OFTEN
HAPPENED THAT CAN RESULT IN
FALSE MATCHES. AS BETWEEN
DIFFERENT AGENCIES RECORDS AND
PROVIDE ELECTIONS OFFICIALS WITH
OVER INCLUSIVE LISTS, AND WHEN
THAT HAPPENS, WE END UP
DISENFRANCHISING ELIGIBLE
VOTERS, RIGHT? AND ITS VOTERS
WHO ARE ALREADY HISTORICALLY
UNDERREPRESENTED PEOPLE WHO ARE
BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE WHO ARE
YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE LOW INCOME
TEND TO BE DISPROPORTIONATELY.
UH AFFECTED BY THIS AND HAVE
THEIR REGISTRATIONS CANCELED
MORE FREQUENTLY THAN OTHER
VOTERS, PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY
UNDERREPRESENTED NOW, IN THE
CONTEXT OF VOTER ROLL
MAINTENANCE, PEOPLE ARE
SOMETIMES SWITCHED TO WHAT'S
CALLED INACTIVE STATUS. WHEN
THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE
MOVED ADDRESSES IF THAT HAPPENS
AND NOTICE GOES OUT FOUR YEARS
BEFORE THE ACTUAL CANCELATION TO
THE VOTER TO ASK THEM TO UPDATE
THEIR VOTER REGISTRATION. UM AND
OR IF THEY VOTE WITHIN THE FOUR
YEAR PERIOD, THEN THEY GET OFF
THAT INACTIVE LIST, BUT THERE'S
NO REQUIREMENT TO LET VOTERS
KNOW THAT THEIR REGISTRATIONS
ACTUALLY BEING CANCELED FOR THE
ADDRESS CHANGE PROCESS AND THEN
FOR OTHER PROCESSES WHEN VOTERS
ARE CANCELED DUE TO THINGS LIKE
THE JUDGMENT OF MENTAL
INCOMPETENCY OR THE PRISON
INCARCERATION. THERE IS NO
NOTICE AT ALL. THEY'RE JUST
CANCELED. UM SO 82 841 WOULD
REQUIRE NOTIFICATIONS. AH DUE TO
THINGS LIKE JUDGMENT OF MENTAL
INCOMPETENCY OR INCARCERATION.
IT WOULD GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO
ADDRESS ANY PROBLEMS IF THOSE
CANCELATIONS ARE BEING DONE FOR
THE WRONG REASONS. AND AS
ACTUALLY, THE STAFF ANALYSIS
POINTED OUT. STUDIES HAVE
INDICATED THAT MULTIPLE
COMMUNICATIONS PLUS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO STOP MISTAKEN
CANCELATIONS BEFORE THEY
ACTUALLY HAPPEN. IS ONE OF THE
MOST EFFECTIVE WAYS TO PREVENT
DISENFRANCHISEMENT THROUGH THIS
VOTER ROLL CLEANUP PROCESS. SO
MAYBE 2841 IS REALLY JUST A
COMMON SENSE BILL AND NOTIFIES
VOTERS PREVENT AND PROVIDE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR CURE. SO WE ARE
ASKING FOR AN I VOTE AND LET ME
TURN IT OVER TO RUTH TO TALK
ABOUT THE CONSERVATIVES IN SHIP
ASPECT. GOOD MORNING AND TURKEY
LEISURE AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
RUTH DAWSON WITH CALIFORNIA
ACTION, PROBABLY CO SPONSORING A
B 2841. THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN
VOTERS HAVE LONG HISTORIES OF
FIGHTING TO INCREASE ACCESS TO
DEMOCRACY FOR ELIGIBLE YET
UNDERREPRESENTED VOTERS,
INCLUDING THOSE WITH
DISABILITIES. VOTERS WITH
DISABILITIES ARE
UNDERREPRESENTED IN OUR
DEMOCRACY. IN THE NOVEMBER 2020
ELECTION. VOTERS WITH
DISABILITIES WERE ABOUT 6% LESS
LIKELY THAN THE OVERALL ELIGIBLE
VOTER POPULATION TO VOTE. AND
FOR VOTERS WITH A MENTAL OR
COGNITIVE DISABILITY. IN
PARTICULAR, THE TURNOUT GAP WAS
ALMOST 17. CALIFORNIA HAS
ENACTED IMPROVED LEGAL STANDARDS
TO ADDRESS THE ALARMINGLY HIGH
RATES AT WHICH VOTERS HAVE
DISABILITIES WERE BEING
DISENFRANCHISED IN
CONSERVATORSHIP CASES, AS WELL
AS TO BRING CALIFORNIA INTO
COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL
DISABILITY NONDISCRIMINATION
LAWS. THE PROVISIONS OF SB 589
PASSED IN 2015 ARE INTENDED TO
HELP PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF
VOTERS WITH DISABILITIES UNDER
CONSERVATORSHIP BY PRESUMING
THAT OTHERWISE ELIGIBLE
INDIVIDUALS ARE COMPETENT TO
VOTE. UNLESS THE COURT
DETERMINES OTHERWISE. SB 589
ALSO MANDATES THAT THE
REVOCATION OF THE RIGHT TO VOTE
SHOULD NOT BE BASED ON WHETHER A
PERSON CAN FILL OUT A VOTER
REGISTRATION FORM, BUT INSTEAD
ON WHETHER THEY CAN EXPRESS A
DESIRE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
VOTING PROCESS. UNFORTUNATELY
HULU RESEARCH RAISES CONCERNS AS
TO WHETHER ELIGIBLE OTERS WITH
DISABILITIES IN EVERY CALIFORNIA
COUNTY ARE ACTUALLY RECEIVING
THESE PROTECTIONS WHEN THEY NEED
THEM. THIS RESEARCH INDICATES
THAT COUNTIES TRACK AND REPORT
CONSERVATIVE SHIP VOTING RIGHTS
CHANGES IN AN INCONSISTENT AND
UNCLEAR MANNER. AND THE FINDINGS
SUGGEST THAT SOME COUNTIES MAY
NOT BE FULLY COMPLYING WITH THE
REQUIREMENTS OF SB 589. THE
DRAMATIC VARIATIONS IN COUNTY
PRACTICE, ALONG WITH THE
WIDESPREAD LACK OF TRANSPARENCY
POINT TO AN URGENT NEED FOR
IMPROVED STATE LEVEL SUPPORT AND
IMPLEMENTATION. AND THERE HAS
RECENTLY BEEN AN INCREASE IN
NATIONAL PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT
THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING THE
RIGHTS OF PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES WERE PLACED UNDER
CONSERVATORSHIP. AND NOW IS THE
TIME TO ENSURE THAT THE PROMISE
OF FORMER EFFORTS IS FULFILLED
AND THAT ELIGIBLE CALIFORNIA
VOTERS UNDER CONSERVATORSHIP ARE
NO LONGER WRONGFULLY EXCLUDED
FROM THE BALLOT BOX. WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK HER AND I VOTE
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. MISS ROSE AND MISS
DAWSON. THAT COMPLETES THE LEAD
TESTIMONY IN FAVOR OF THE
MEASURE ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE
HEARING THAT WISHES TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT SEE NOW WE'LL GO TO
THE PHONE LINES. MODERATOR WOULD
YOU ASK THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY TO PLEASE SO INDICATE
AND JUST NAME AND AFFILIATION,
PLEASE? IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY, PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN
ZERO ON YOUR QUESTION PHONE AT
THIS TIME. WELL, FIRST GO TO
LINE 25. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
CONSPIRES WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SCHOOL EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORTED THANK YOU. LINE 43.
PORN YET AND SUPPORT. LINE 68.
RANDY HICKS, CALIFORNIA
DISABILITY RIGHTS AND STRONG
SUPPORT. WE HAVE ONE OTHER LINE
IN Q ONE MOMENT WHILE WE PROVIDE
THEIR LINE NUMBER.
APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY. ONE
MOMENT, PLEASE.
LINE. 73 GO AHEAD, PLEASE. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THIS IS
ALWAYS FUN DRINK FROM CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS, CALLING
HIM SUPPORT. THAT WE HAVE NO
FURTHER LINES IN Q AT THIS TIME.
GREAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MODERATOR THANKS FOR ALL YOUR
GOOD WORK TODAY. WE'LL GO TO
OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYONE HERE
IN THE HEARING ROOM THAT WOULD
WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO
28 41? SEEING ANIMALS GO TO THE
PHONE LINES. MODERATOR IF YOU
COULD ASK THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO SO
INDICATE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. MR CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NO
LINES QUEUED UP. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WE'LL GO TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS MEMBERS, QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. SEEN NONE.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THANK YOU FOR
YOUR WORK IN THIS AREA. I'M
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE BILL. TODAY
YOU'RE WELCOME TO CLOSE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. MR CHAIRMAN
COLLEAGUES. THIS HELPS TO ENSURE
THAT WE PROVIDE AS MUCH
ACCESSIBILITY AS POSSIBLE. BUT
THOSE WHO MIGHT BE
DISENFRANCHISED, RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR OUR VOTE. TERRIFIC.
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, UH
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR
NEWMAN DO PASS AND THE BIRD BILL
FIRST BE WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY. THE
SECRETARY WILL CALL THE ROLL.
GLASER GLASER I NIELSEN.
NIELSEN. NO, HERTZBERG. LABOR
LABOR. I, NEWMAN NEWMAN. AYE.
ALRIGHT THAT BILL IS OUT 321,
BUT WE'LL HOLD THE ROYAL OPEN
FOR AN ABSENT MEMBER. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S OKAY. NEXT UP,
UH, A SELF ASSEMBLY MEMBER,
BERMAN. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERMAN
WELCOME. YOU HAVE THREE BILLS ON
THE AGENDA TODAY. I'M SURE
YOU'VE HEARD OF TERM LIMITS.
THERE'S ACTUALLY BUILD LIMITS
HERE. WE NEED TO ONLY PICK 12
BILLS TO MOVE FORWARD, AND ONE
SHOULD REMAIN. SO WHICH WHICH
ONE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO?
DEFINITELY GOING WITH A B 28 15
BECAUSE THAT'S MY ASSEMBLY
FELLOWS BILL. AND VERY GOOD
IDEA, NÓI. I APPRECIATE THE.
OPPORTUNITY TO CALL MY OWN BILL
BILLS, BUT ALL, UH I'LL GIVE IT
A GO WITH BECAUSE YOU HAVE
PASTEL SOCKS ON. I THINK WE'RE
GOING TO WAIVE THE LIMIT. WHICH
BILL WOULD YOU LIKE TO BEGIN?
LET'S IF IT'S OKAY. WE'LL FOLLOW
OUR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER SIX A. B
25 84 IF YOU'VE GOT THAT FILE UP
READY TO GO. WE CAN BEGIN WITH
THAT ONE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
AND SANDERS. APOLOGIES. I
THOUGHT I WAS RUNNING LESS
ELECTIONS BILLS THIS YEAR, AND
HERE WE ARE, AH LAST FALL SOON
AFTER THE RECALL ELECTION AND
CONVERSATION BEGAN ABOUT THE
RECALL PROCESS ESTABLISHED BY
VOTERS OVER 100 YEARS AGO. AS
THE CHAIR WELL KNOWS. THE SENATE
AND ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS
COMMITTEES HOLD A SERIES OF
HEARINGS. WHERE WE HEARD OF THE
NEED TO RETAIN RECALLS AS AN
IMPORTANT TOOL TO HOLD ELECTED
OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE
ACCOUNTABLE. BUT WE ALSO HEARD
OF THE NEED FOR SOME PROCEDURAL
STATUTORY REFORMS ACCORDINGLY, A
B 25 84 WOULD MAKE FOUR GOOD
GOVERNMENT REFORMS, IT WOULD
INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RECALL
PROPONENTS NECESSARY TO INITIATE
THE RECALL PROCESS TO ENSURE
THAT THE BAR IS NOT SO LOW THAT
IT CAN BE WEAPONIZED OR DONE
WITHOUT COMPLETION WITHOUT
CONTEMPLATION. EXTEND EXISTING
STANDARDS FOR ACCURACY AND
REVIEW TO ENSURE THAT FALSE
STATEMENTS ARE NOT MADE BY
EITHER THE RECALL PROPONENT OR
BY THE ELECTED OFFICIAL TARGETED
BY THE RECALL PROVIDE GREATER
TRANSPARENCY IN SCHOOL DISTRICT
RELATED RECALLS BY REQUIRING
THAT PETITIONS LIST THE
ESTIMATED COST OF AN ELECTION.
AND PROVIDE GREATER EFFICIENCY
IN THE TIMING OF ELECTIONS AND
MINIMIZE LOCAL AGENCY ELECTION
COSTS BY ALLOWING MORE TIME TO
CONSOLIDATE A LOCAL RECALL WITH
A STATE OR LOCAL ELECTION THAT
IS ALREADY SCHEDULED TO ACCORD
OCCUR WITHIN 100 AND 80 DAYS.
WHILE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RECALLS
ARE HAPPENING AT ALL LEVELS OF
GOVERNMENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS SEEM
TO BE THE TIP OF THE SPEAR
ACCORDINGLY. I'M JOINED IN
PERSON BY CARLOS MACHADO WITH
THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOL BOARD
ASSOCIATION AND WE HAVE MADE
CUTULI, A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER
FROM LOS ALAMITOS UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT TESTIFYING REMOTELY AND
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WILL GO TO YOUR
LEAD WITNESSES. MR MACHADO,
FIRST HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN GLAZER
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME
IS CARLOS MACHADO, LEGISLATIVE
ADVOCATE WITH CALIFORNIA SCHOOL
BOARD ASSOCIATION, THE SPONSOR
OF THIS BILL. A B 25 84 WILL
HELP INCREASE VOTER
PARTICIPATION RECALL PETITION
PROCESS WHILE PROVIDING SCHOOL
DISTRICTS WITH CRITICALLY NEEDED
FLEXIBILITY TO MINIMIZE ELECTION
COSTS. MANY DISTRICTS HAVE
REACHED OUT TO C S P A REGARDING
THE IMPACT THAT COSTS ASSOCIATED
WITH RECALL ELECTIONS ARE HAVING
ON THEIR STUDENTS. IT IS NOT
UNCOMMON FOR ELECTION COSTS TO
RANGE FROM THE HIGH TENS OF
$1000 TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF DOLLARS FOR SMALL SCHOOL
DISTRICTS. THESE COSTS CAN WREAK
HAVOC ON SCHOOL BUDGETS AND LEAD
TO CUTS TO STUDENT PROGRAMS AND
STAFF POSITIONS. UNFORTUNATELY
MANY VOTERS ARE NOT AWARE THAT
THESE COSTS ARE BORNE BY THE
SCHOOL DISTRICT AND COULD REDUCE
SERVICES AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS.
A B 25 84 INSURERS THAT THE
INFORMATION PRESENTED TO VOTERS
BY THE PROPONENTS AND OFFICIALS
SOUGHT TO BE RECALLED, IS
ACCURATE AND TRUE. THE BILL ALSO
PROVIDES VOTERS WITH AN ESTIMATE
OF TOTAL CAUGHT ELECTION COSTS
FOR THE RECALL ELECTION, GIVEN
THE SIGNIFICANT FISCAL DISTRESS
THAT THESE ELECTIONS, UM
EXPENSES CAN HAVE ON DISTRICTS,
THE BILL ALSO ENSURES BROADER
VOTER PARTICIPATION. IS
REFLECTED IN THE DECISION TO
INITIATE THE RECALL. ADJUSTING
THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES ON THE
NOTICE OF INTENTION WILL HELP
CURB ITS MISUSE. WHEN ONLY AS
FEW AS 10 SIGNATURES ARE
CURRENTLY NEEDED TO MAKE IT.
OFFICIAL. TO HELP DISTRICTS
MINIMIZE ELECTION COSTS. THE
BILL EXPANDS THE PERIOD DURING
WHICH AND SPECIAL ELECTION MAY
BE CONSOLIDATED WITH A LOCAL OR
STATE ELECTION. THIS CHANGE WILL
HELP DISTRICT SAVE AS MUCH AS
HALF OR MORE ON ELECTION RELATED
EXPENSES. MOREOVER BY COMBINING
THE SPECIAL ELECTION WITH OTHER
ELECTIONS, MAYBE 25 84 WILL HELP
INCREASE VOTER ARTICIPATION IN
DECISIONS THAT WILL AFFECT THE
EDUCATION FOR ALL STUDENTS IN
THE DISTRICT. FOR THESE REASONS
WE ASK YOU TO SUPPORT A B 25 84
TODAY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE
BILL. THANK YOU. MR MACHADO WILL
THEN WELCOME THAT MISS ACTUALLY
ON THE PHONE LINES. ACTUALLY,
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. WE WELCOME
YOUR TESTIMONY. MODERATOR, DO
YOU HAVE MS CASUALLY ON THE
LINE? WE DO NOT HAVE A LINE
NAMED THAT, UM IF MR TULLY IS
ONLINE AND, UH, NEARLY. GOT A
LINE NUMBER. PLEASE IDENTIFIED
BY PRESSING STARTED ZERO. ALL
RIGHT, WELL, WE'LL BEGIN WITH
OTHER INDIVIDUALS WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK IN FAVOR. NAME AND
AFFILIATION. MR. MS CUTULI. IF
SHE HER LINE IS OPEN, WE'LL
WELCOME HER HER TESTIMONY AT
THAT TIME. SO WE'LL GO TO THE
HEARING ROOM. WE HAVE SOMEONE
WHO WISH TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT.
YES MA'AM. VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA
DOOR ROSE AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK THANK YOU, MR ROSE ANYONE
ELSE HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM,
SEEING THEM WILL GO TO THE PHONE
LINES. MODERATOR, IF YOU CAN
INVITE THOSE WHO WISH TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT TO SO INDICATE THANK
YOU FOR SUPPORT, PLEASE. PRESS
ONE, THEN ZERO. UH WE WILL TAKE
OUR FIRST PERSON LINE 72. WOW.
ONE MOMENT. 9 72 YEAR LINE IS
OPEN. LINE. 72, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING. I ACTUALLY GOT THE
LINE, BUT I'M NOT SUPPORT. UM I
APOLOGIZE. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND
GIVE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION
AND WILL RECORD YOU AS AN
OPPOSITION NOW, MAN. I
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
WILLIAM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF
JAMES BRADLEY AND LADIES FOR
LIBERTY OPPOSITION OF A B 258 40
SO MUCH SO MUCH. NEXT CALLER
MODERATOR. THANK YOU LINE 68.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. 68 YES. GO
AHEAD. WHAT IS THIS IS
CALIFORNIA DISABILITY, RIGHT?
RANDY HICKS, WHERE IS STRONG
SUPPORT? THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER,
PLEASE. THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL
COLLARS IN, UH QUÊ. ALRIGHT
TERRIFIC. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO
OPPOSITION NOW. ANYONE HERE IN
THE HEARING ROOM WISHES TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. SEEING
ANIMAL GO TO THE PHONE LINES.
MODERATOR ANYONE WISH TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION. PLEASE. SO
INDICATE THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN,
IT'S ONE THEN ZERO TO GET INTO
THE QUEUE FOR OPPOSITE. WE'LL GO
TO LINE 26, PLEASE. BOY HAS.
TIMOTHY HOLIDAY VISUALLY
IMPAIRED GIRLS SHARE BALANCE
STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.
QUÊ SER NEXT CALLER, PLEASE.
THANK YOU LYING 53. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES CAPTAIN MCBRIDE,
PLASTER COUNTY RESPECTFULLY
ASKING FOR YOUR NO VOTE. THANK
YOU. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. LINE
54. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. YES MY
NAME IS BRENDA. MY FAMILY IN
PLAZA COUNTY. TRAVELING OPPOSED
THIS BILL. PLEASE DON'T KNOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT
CALLER, PLEASE LINE 47, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. YOU NEED TO TAKE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. THIS IS
NOT A BALANCED PROCESS, NOT
REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY AND
OPPOSITION. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE.
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE IN THE
OPPOSITION QUÊ. OKAY, WE'LL
BRING THE MATTER BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS MEMBERS. I SEE SENATOR
NIELSEN AND THEN SENATOR NEWMAN
. WE DEFER TO SENATOR NIELSEN.
GO AHEAD, SENATOR NIELSEN. WE'RE
ALL EQUAL HERE. LET ME AND
PARDON THE INTERRUPTION. WE ARE
GETTING, UH, MAKE TULLEY YEAH.
OKAY SENATOR NIELSEN. IF YOU GET
A PAUSE FOR JUST A MOMENT
EDITORIAL OBSERVATION JUST JUST
FOR JUST A MOMENT. MR TULLEY IS
ON THE LINE NOW, SO WE'LL HEAR
HER TESTIMONY AND THEN WE'LL GO
TO SENATOR NIELSEN. ACTUALLY GO
AHEAD, PLEASE. OKAY THANK YOU SO
MUCH. GOOD MORNING TO THE
COMMITTEE. AND I WANT TO THANK
YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO
ADDRESS YOU. MY NAME IS MAX,
ACTUALLY, AND I AM A MEMBER OF
THE LOS ALAMITOS UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT BOARD OF EDUCATION IN
ORANGE COUNTY. WE HAVE
APPROXIMATELY 9000 STUDENTS AND
1600 EMPLOYEES AND WERE
CONSIDERED A MEDIUM SIZED SCHOOL
DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. I WAS FIRST ELECTED
TO THE BOARD IN 2000. I AM NOW
SERVING MY 22ND YEAR AS A SCHOOL
BOARD MEMBER AND I'VE BEEN
ELECTED TO THIS POSITION SIX
DIFFERENT TIMES. THE EARLY IN
THIS YEAR. I DID RECEIVE A
NOTICE OF INTENT TO RECALL ALONG
WITH TWO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. IT
ONLY TOOK 10 PEOPLE TO FIND THE
PETITION TO START THIS PROCESS.
A NICE SITUATION, THE RECALL
GROUP COULD NEVER COMPLETE THEIR
SIGNATURE GATHERING PETITION
CORRECTLY, SO MIGHT RECALL AND
IT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER RECALL
ATTEMPT OUT THROUGHOUT.
THIS IS LEADING TO A LOT OF
EXPERIENCE SCHOOL LEADERS IN
COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE CASE.
A B 25 84 WOULD IMPROVE
TRANSPARENCY, FAIRNESS AND HELP
MAKE RECALLS A BETTER REFLECTION
OF THE LARGER VOTER SENTIMENT.
THE REASONABLE ADJUSTMENT TO THE
MINIMUM SIGNATURES REQUIRED FOR
THE NOTICE OF INTENTION. WE'LL
HELP LIMIT ITS USE FROM USING
THAT FIRST FRIVOLOUS OR PERSONAL
REASONS. THE PUBLIC REVIEW AND
ROOT CROSSROADS OF THE BILL WILL
ENSURE VOTERS ARE PROVIDED WITH
ACCURATE AND TRUTHFUL
INFORMATION IN BOTH THE
PROPONENTS STATEMENT AND THE
OFFICEHOLDER REPLY. THIS AWFUL
ENABLES FULL DISTRICT TO REDUCE
RECALL POSSIBLE CONSOLIDATING
THE ELECTION WITH THE LOCAL OR
STATE ELECTIONS. THIS WILL HELP
REDUCE TOTAL ELECTION EXPENSES
FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND MOST
IMPORTANTLY, IT WILL INCREASE
VOTER PARTICIPATION. I ASK THAT
YOU SUPPORT SCHOOL DISTRICTS
BYPASSING THE A B 25 84. THIS
WILL HELP EVERYONE. THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WILL
COME BACK TO YOU? IF THERE ARE
MISC ACTUALLY, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TESTIMONY. WE'RE GOING TO
CLOSE NOW. THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY
PORTION OF OUR HEARING, AND
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO SENATOR
NIELSEN FIRST AND THEN SENATOR
NEWMAN. OBSERVATION. I USED TO
RESPECT THE SCHOOL BOARDS
ASSOCIATION. MUCH LESS SO NOW.
BECAUSE OF COVID. IN PART,
PARENTS GOT TO LOOK IN THE
CLASSROOMS. THEY DIDN'T LIKE
WHAT THEY WERE SEEING. AND THE
ACTIONS OF SCHOOL BOARDS ACROSS
AMERICA. AND THEY'VE STOOD UP
AND THEIR VOICES BE HEARD. WHERE
SCHOOL BOARDS OF ARROGANTLY
DISMISSED THOSE PARENTS AND
SAID, WE KNOW BEST I THINK IT'S
DISGUSTING. THE POSITION OF THE
SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION TRYING
TO ELIMINATE YOUR OWN
ACCOUNTABILITY. I AM STRONGLY
OPPOSED TO THE BILL. SENATOR
NIELSEN, SENATOR NEWMAN. UM. SO
AH ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERMAN. I
WILL RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH
CENTRAL IS ACTUALLY NO. LET ME
LET ME ACCORD YOU THE RESPECT. I
MEAN, IT IS TRUE THAT PEOPLE HAD
LOST FRUSTRATION, BUT BUT I WILL
ALSO SAY, I WOULD ARGUE THAT
THIS BILL IS A GOOD AND VALID
MEASURE. AND IN FACT, AND I
CREDIT YOU FOR BRINGING FORWARD
SOME OF THE WORK DONE BY THOSE,
YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN
INFORMATIONAL HEARINGS. THIS IS
ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT CHANGES THAT WE CAN
MAKE. AND AGAIN. I COMMEND YOU
FOR BRINGING IT AND, YOU KNOW, I
THINK IN YOUR CLOTHES, YOU WILL
PROBABLY SAY SOMETHING TO THE
EFFECT OF WHAT I WILL SAY IS
THIS IS NOT ABOUT PREVENTING THE
RECALL OF ANY LOCAL ELECTED
OFFICIAL. IT'S ABOUT ENSURING
THAT THE THRESHOLD FOR THAT
RECALL EFFORT IS SUFFICIENTLY
RIGOROUS THAT IT TESTIFIES TO
THE INTEGRITY THAT EFFORT. IN
CLEARLY AND I REMEMBER VERY
CLEARLY MISC. ITALY'S TESTIMONY
FROM THE HEARING, AND I'M
GRATEFUL FOR HER BEING THERE
TODAY BECAUSE HER EXPERIENCE
DOES REPRESENT THE EXPERIENCE
SADLY. OF SO MANY LOCAL ELECTED
OFFICIALS, NOT JUST SCHOOL BOARD
MEMBERS, YOU KNOW WHO HAVE BEEN
TO YOUR POINT AT THE TIP OF THE
SPEAR OF THE CENTER OF THE
BULLSEYE, BUT SO MANY WHO HAVE
BECAUSE OF THE THREAT OF RECALL
BECAUSE THE THRESHOLD IS SO LOW
, EVEN WHEN THOSE EFFORTS DID
NOT. PAN OUT. THEY LABORED WHILE
SERVING DILIGENTLY IN THEIR
PUBLIC OFFICE UNDER UNDER THAT
INTIMIDATING, VERY RANCOROUS
THREAT OF RECALL, AND THAT'S TO
ALL OF OUR DETRIMENT. AND SO I
WOULD ARGUE FORCEFULLY THAT WHAT
YOU'RE DOING HERE IS NOT TRYING
TO PREVENT RECALLS. WE'RE NOT
TRYING TO STACK THE DECK IN
FAVOR OF ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO
ALLOW THOSE FOLKS TO DO THEIR
JOBS TO PARTICIPATE FULLY. AS
PUBLIC SERVANTS WITHOUT THE
THREAT OF FRIVOLOUS OR
UNNECESSARY OR MEAN SPIRITED OR
OVERLY PARTISAN RECALL AVERAGE
THAT YOU KNOW WHERE THE EXISTING
PROVISIONS ARE FROM AN EARLIER
TIME WHICH IS CLEARLY NO LONGER
RELEVANT. AND YOU KNOW, THESE
THINGS ARE WORTHY OF
REEXAMINATION. I THINK IN THIS
CASE, THE MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU
PROPOSE ARE WORTHY. AND
CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, TIMELY, YOU
KNOW BADLY NEEDED RIGHT NOW. SO
YOU KNOW, GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS
BILL. UH I OBVIOUSLY THIS IS
SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT. SO I'D
LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR
IN CASE AND I DON'T DO THIS THAT
MUCH. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ON
THE DOCKET TODAY. I THINK SOME
SOME REALLY POSITIVE MEASURES.
THAT WHEN ENACTED, WILL MAKE
GOVERNANCE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE
IN PUBLIC SERVICE. SAVING MORE
REWARDING, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT
. GLAD IT'S WORTH THE BILL
TODAY. VERY GOOD. UM SEE NO
OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE
MEMBERS ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S LET ME
JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PARTNERSHIP IN THE HEARINGS THAT
WE CONDUCTED OVER THE LAST 12
MONTHS ON RECALL, I SHARE YOUR
YOUR INTEREST AND PROMOTION OF
THESE TYPES OF VERY MODEST
REFORMS. I MEAN, THIS IS NOT
THERE THERE. THERE ARE MANY
PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE
THE BAR TO SET A LOT HIGHER THAN
WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THIS BILL.
AND IT IS A VERY MODEST
IMPROVEMENT. AND, AS SENATOR
NEWMAN HAS INDICATED, YOU KNOW,
THERE'S A CALIBRATION THAT GOES
ON WITH THESE TYPES OF THINGS TO
TRY TO FIND THAT RIGHT SWEET
SPOT FOR, UH SEPARATING
HARASSMENT VERSUS A SOME SORT OF
SERIOUS PUBLIC CONCERN THAT
THAT'S DESERVING OF A RECALL
PETITION BEING CIRCULATED IN THE
REST. SO WITH THAT WE WELCOME
YOUR CLOTHES WILL HAPPILY TAKE
YOUR COMMENTS, CHAIR AND YOUR
COMMENTS CENTER AS MY CLOTHES.
APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. I'M
GONNA TAKE SENATOR NEWMAN'S
PASSION FOR THIS AS A MOTION IS
THAT'S OKAY. MOTIONS MOTION. THE
BILL DO PASS THE BILL. FIRST
BEING REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON JUDICIARY OF THE SECRETARY
WOULD CALL THE ROLL. A B 25 84
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERMAN GLASER
GLASER I. NILSSON NILSSON NO,
HERTZBERG LABOR. I NEWMAN NEWMAN
. I ALRIGHT. THAT BILL ENJOYS
THE 3 TO 1 VOTE WITH AN ABSOLUTE
MEMBER. SO WE'LL HOLD THE WORLD
OPEN. THANK YOU. REMEMBER WILL
GO TO 26 08. THIS IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN. 26 OH, EIGHT.
BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK
YOU. SHARON CENTERS FOR THE 2020
ELECTION GENERAL ELECTION IN THE
MIDST OF THE PANDEMIC. WE
REQUIRED THAT ELECTION OFFICIALS
SENATOR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT TO
EVERY ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTER.
LAST YEAR, BUILDING UPON THE
SUCCESS OF OUR SAFE AND SECURE
NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION. I WAS
PROUD TO OFFER LEGISLATION TO
SEND EVERY ACTIVE REGISTERED
VOTER A BALLOT BY MAIL FOR ALL
FUTURE ELECTIONS IN WHICH THE
VOTER IS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE. AND
FOLLOW UP THIS BILL A B 26 08
WOULD MAKE NUMEROUS VOTE BY MAIL
RELATED CONFORMING CHANGES TO
THE ELECTIONS CODE, INCLUDING
REPEALING A NUMBER OF OBSOLETE
PROVISIONS AND UPDATING NUMEROUS
OTHERS TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY IN
OUR LAWS. THE BILL WOULD ALSO
CLARIFY THE TIMING FOR
DETERMINING THE NUMBER OF BALLOT
DROP BOXES NEEDED. HOW A NO
PARTY PREFERENCE VOTER OBTAINS A
CROSSOVER BALLOT AND HOW A VOTER
DESIGNATES AN AUTHORIZED
REPRESENTATIVE. TESTIFYING
REMOTELY IS ERIC GARRIS, DEPUTY
SECRETARY OF STATE FOR
LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS ON BEHALF OF
SECRETARY OF STATE WEBER AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WILL
GO TO MR GARRIS ON THE PHONE
LINE, SIR, YOU CAN BEGIN YOUR
TESTIMONY NOW. GLORIA MR SHARON
SENATORS, ERIC HERE, SOMETHING
HAPPENED. OFFICE OF SECRETARY OF
STATE. LET ME START BY THINKING
SOME OF GOVERNMENT FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP IN THE AREA. A B 26
08 IS A SIMPLE, CLEAN UP
MEASURES THAT MAKES CONSISTENT
THE PROVISIONS OF THE ELECTIONS
CODE REGARDING VOTE BY MAIL
PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES. HIS
MEASURES NECESSARY TO ENSURE
THAT THERE'S NO INCONSISTENCY
AMONG THE PROVISIONS RELATED TO
BILL BY MAIL PROCESS. NOW THE
CURRENT LAW REQUIRES EVERY
ELECTION ELIGIBLE, REGISTERED
VOTE BY MAIL VOTER RECEIVE A
BOOK BY NO BALLOT WOULD BE 26 OR
EIGHT SERVICE TO MINIMIZE ANY
POSSIBLE CONFUSION FOR VOTERS.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
THANKS VERY WEBER RESPECTFULLY
REQUESTED. I VOTE. THANK YOU, MR
GARRIS. ANYBODY HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM WISHES TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT. SEE NOW WE'LL GO TO
THE PHONE LINES, MODERATOR
ANYONE THERE THAT WE SHOULD TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
26 08. FOR SUPPORT OF 26 08,
PLEASE, PERHAPS ONE THAN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AND WE GO TO LINE 68.
RANDY HICKS, CALIFORNIA
DISABILITY RIGHTS AND STRONG
SUPPORT AND SANCTIONS MOVEMENT.
NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. THERE IS NO
THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE
COMMENT. QUÊ TERRIFIC WILL BRING
THE MATTER BACK TO THE
OPPOSITION SIDE OF THE LEDGER.
ANYONE HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM,
WHICH TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION
SEE NO ONE LEAPING TO THEIR FEET
WILL GO TO THE PHONE LINES,
MODERATOR, ANYONE THEIR WISHES
TO TESTIFY AND OPPOSITION. TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION PRESS ONE
AND ZERO AT THIS TIME. GO TO
LINE 26 GO AHEAD. LINE 26. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. YOU HEAR ME? YES.
GO AHEAD, PLEASE. TIMOTHY
HOLIDAY SANTA CLARA COUNTY
VISUALLY IMPAIRED REAL TRIP DOWN
AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. ONE
MOMENT. GO TO LINE 76. NICE. I'M
SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT,
MA'AM? COUPLE MCADA WITH
PINNACLE ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
QUITE AS ELECTION OFFICIALS IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER,
PLEASE. BY THE 54. HONEY I
STRONGLY OPPOSED. PLEASE VOTE
NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT
CALLER, PLEASE. ONE MOMENT,
PLEASE. BUYING 47. YOUR PHONE.
SUCK YOUR PROCESS. THANK YOU.
NEXT CALLER, PLEASE LINE 53.
CATHERINE MCBRIDE, PLASTIC
COUNTY. RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR
YOUR NO VOTE ON 26 08. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER,
PLEASE. LINE 72. LINE 72 YEARS
THEIR LINE. 72 HAS TAKEN
THEMSELVES OUT OF YOU. THERE ARE
NO FURTHER LINES IN. Q. OKAY
WELL, THAT'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY PORTION OF THE
HEARING, BRING THE MATTER BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS 26 08 NOT
SEEN NONE. ASSEMBLYMAN THANK YOU
FOR YOUR CONTINUED DILIGENCE IN
THE SPACE. DESPITE YOUR NEW
RESPONSIBILITY, WE APPRECIATE
IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. TOO CLOSE.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE.
SENATOR LEYVA LIED TO HER FEET
AND SUPPORTED THE BILL. WE HAVE
A MOTION DO PASS. PLACE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS OF THE SECRETARY
WILL CALL THE ROLL. 26 08
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERMAN GLASER
GLASER I. NILSSON NILSSON NO
HERTZBERG NEIGHBOR FLAVOR. I,
NEWMAN AYE. ALRIGHT. THAT BILL
ENJOYS A 3 TO 1 VOTE WILL LEAVE
THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS
WILL NEXT GO TO FILE ITEM EIGHT.
A. B 28 15 ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S IT
LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONE OF YOURS.
YOU CAN BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
COLLEAGUES. I DEFER ALL CREDIT
TO MY ASSEMBLY FELLOW WHO CAME
UP WITH THIS VERY GOOD IDEA.
WHILE VOTING HAS BECOME MORE
ACCESSIBLE, LOW TURNOUT AMONG
YOUNG VOTERS IS STILL PREVALENT
. VOTERS AGED 18 TO 24 REMAIN
THE MOST UNDERREPRESENTED AGE
GROUP AMONG CALIFORNIA'S VOTING
ELECTORATE. TO ADDRESS THIS
ONGOING PROBLEM OF LOW VOTER
TURNOUT. MAYBE 28 15 WOULD MAKE
IT MORE CONVENIENT FOR COLLEGE
STUDENTS TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT
TO VOTE BY REQUIRING THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY AND
REQUESTING THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA TO PLACE A VOTE BY
MAIL BALLOT DROPBOX LOCATION ON
EVERY CAMPUS. THIS BILL WOULD
ALSO REQUIRE COUNTY ELECTIONS
OFFICIALS TO GIVE PREFERENCE TO
PLACING A VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT
DROPBOX ON CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGE CAMPUSES THAT HAVE AN
ANNUAL ENROLLMENT OF AT LEAST
10,000 STUDENTS. MAYBE 28 15
BUILDS UPON EXISTING PRACTICE BY
SOME CSU AND UC CAMPUSES THAT
ALREADY PROVIDE BALLOT JOB BOX
LOCATIONS AND WOULD ENSURE
GREATER VOTING ACCESSIBILITY.
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED. I VOTE.
AND WITH ME TODAY IS KATIE H^
PRESENTING THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA STUDENT ASSOCIATION
ON THE PHONE. WE HAVE TRENT
MURPHY, REPRESENTING THE CAL
STATE STUDENT ASSOCIATION. MS HO
IS HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM. WE
WELCOME YOU. WELCOME YOUR
TESTIMONY. HMM. THANK YOU, MR
CHAN CENTER. MY NAME IS KATIE
Hë0 UCSB STUDENTS AND A
POLICY FELLOW OF THE UNIVERSITY
OF CALIFORNIA STUDENT
ASSOCIATIONS. I COME BEFORE YOU
TODAY TO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. OTHER IMPORTANT
MEASURES TO IMPROVE THE
ACCESSIBILITY OF VOTING FOR
STUDENTS IN HOUSTON CAMPUSES.
ACCORDING TO THE SECRETARY OF
STATE VOTER TURNOUT RATE IN THE
RECENT PRIMARY ELECTIONS IS
13.9% AS OF JUNE, 17TH. BRITAIN
VOTER AROUND THE AGE OF 18 TO 24
STILL HAVE THE LOWEST TURNOUT
RATE AND UPSTATE AND A B 28 15
IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. STUDENT
CONSTANTLY SWUNG WITH CLASSICS
EXAM AND ESTHER EXTRACURRICULAR
ACTIVITIES, AND THERE'S A LOT OF
STUDENTS WHO CARES AND ENGAGED
IN ELECTIONS. HOWEVER NOT MANY
WILL GO OUT THE WAY TO ENGAGE IF
IT'S GONNA INCONVENIENCE TO
THEM. CURRENTLY FOUR OUT OF 10
U. C. CAMPUSES DO NOT HAVE A
BALLOT DROP OFF BOX. AND DURING
THE PAST PRIMARY ELECTIONS, I
WORKED TIRELESSLY WITH MY
STUDENT TEAM TO RAISE BORDER
REGISTRATIONS AND INCREASE VOTER
TURNOUT. WE WERE TABLING IN OUR
CAMPUS FOR FIVE WEEKS BEFORE AND
ON THE ELECTION DAY. THEY ARE
ALL THE STUDENT GROUPS WHO SPEND
COUNTLESS HOURS TRYING TO HELP
GET PEOPLE TO VOTE. AND IT WILL
BE MUCH MORE HELPFUL IF WE HAVE
A JOB TO DROP OFF BOX BECAUSE IT
CAN BE A TOOL FOR US TO UTILIZE
ENCOURAGING CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND
VOTER PARTICIPATION AMONGST UP
HERE. THESE BOXES CAN ALSO HAVE
REAL BENEFIT IN ELECTORAL
CULTURE INTO OUR CAMPUS BECAUSE
THEY CAN BE A REMINDER TO VOTE
FOR STUDENTS WHO WALK BY IT
EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY'RE GONNA
SHOW GO. THEY'RE GONNA SHOW UP
IN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. FOR
ONE STUDENT ORGANIZERS DOING
OUTREACH EFFORT AHEAD OF
ELECTIONS. AND EVEN ON THE
ELECTION DATE, UH, STUDENT WAS
TO HAVE EXAMS AND ANY COMMITMENT
THAT DAY THEY CAN STOP AT THE
BOTTOM OF THE BOX, UM FOR A
MINUTE AND THEN CAN JUST
CONTINUE ON THEIR WAY. ENSURING
THAT AVAILABILITY ON CAMPUS
DROPBOX WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT
PART OF MAKING A VOTE MORE
ACCESSIBLE TO YOUNG'S VOTER AND
WILL EFFECTIVELY INCREASE VOTER
TURNOUT. AT THE LEGISLATOR MET
THESE AVAILABLE. YOU CAN REST
ASSURED THAT OUR COMMUNITIES
WILL TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF
THEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SO WE'LL GO
ON THE PHONE LINES FOR MR
MURPHY. ARE WE WELCOME YOUR
TESTIMONY NOW. MR MURPHY, ARE
YOU THERE? OPERATOR. CAN YOU
OPEN UP MR MURPHY'S LINE? JUST
VERIFYING HIS LINE 11 PLACE. MR
MURPHY, YOUR BOOKS ONE SECOND
HERE. LET'S MAKE SURE HIS LINE
IS OPEN. MR MURPHY LINERS UP AND
GO AHEAD, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR AND SENATORS. MY NAME IS-TRENT MURPHY AND I SERVED AS THE
VICE PRESIDENT OF LEGISLATIVE
AFFAIRS FOR THE CAL STATE DIDN'T
ASSOCIATION WHICH REPRESENTS THE
NEARLY HALF A MILLION STUDENTS
IN THE CALIFORNIA STATE
UNIVERSITY SYSTEM. I'M ALSO
CURRENTLY A STUDENT AT STATUS OR
STATE FROM THE OUTGOING
GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS STUDENT
COORDINATOR. IN THAT ROLE I
PLANNED AND COORDINATED CIVIC
ENGAGEMENT EVENTS FOR OVER
11,000 STUDENTS ON MY CAMPUS.
I'M HERE TODAY, THE VOICE OUR
SUPPORT FOR A B 2015, WHICH
WOULD REQUIRE THE CSU AND
REQUEST THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA BY MAIL DROPBOX
LOCATION ON EACH CAMPUS. LAST
YEAR, GOVERNOR NEWSOM SIGNED
LEGISLATION THAT ENSURES THAT
EVERY REGISTERED CALIFORNIA
VOTERS WILL GET A BALLOT MAIL TO
THEM IN FUTURE ELECTIONS. THE
VOTE BY NO BALLOTS BEING USED
MORE PREVALENT. LEE IS
IMPERATIVE THAT STUDENTS HAVE
THE ABILITY TO DROP OFF BY MAIL
BALLOT ON THEIR RESPECTIVE
CAMPUSES, WHERE THEY SPEND A
LARGE MAJORITY OF THEIR TIME. MY
OWN EXPERIENCE. ONE OF THE MAIN
BARRIERS THAT PREVENT PEOPLE
FROM VOTING IS NOT BEING
FAMILIAR WITH THE ELECTIONS
PROCESS AND MORE SPECIFICALLY
WHAT TO DO AND WHERE TO GO TO
ENSURE THEIR VOICES HEARD. I
KNOW OF MANY SINCE PERSONALLY ON
MY OWN CAMPUS OF UTILIZED OUR
BALLOT DROP OFF LOCATION FOR
RECENT PRIMARY ELECTION THIS
MONTH, AND I VOTED FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN THEIR LIVES BECAUSE OF
THIS EASING OF ACCESS. HAVING
BALLOT DROP BOX LOCATIONS ON
CAMPUS WILL ALSO BE UTILIZED BY
THE LARGER CAMPUS COMMUNITY AND
FACULTY ADMINISTRATORS AND
STAFF. APPARENTLY SEVEN OF THE
23 CSU CAMPUSES DO NOT HAVE BUT
BY THEM DROP OFF LOCATIONS ON
CAMPUSES. MANY STUDENTS STRUGGLE
WITH FINDING TIME TO REGISTER TO
VOTE AND CAST THEIR BALLOT WHILE
IN COLLEGE AND WORKING NUMEROUS
JOBS. I'M CONFIDENT THAT AFTER
SPEAKING WITH STUDENT LEADERS
ACROSS THE CSU SYSTEM THAT
REQUIRING EVERY CSU TO IMPLEMENT
THESE DROP BOX LOCATIONS FOR
EASE PRESSURE OFF OF STUDENT
VOTERS WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE TIME
FOR A MOTIVE, TRANSPORTATION TO
ENSURE THEIR VOTE IS COUNTED AND
VOICED HER. 18 28 15 WOULD HELP
TO REMOVE AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER
HAS BEEN SPACE AND VOTING. FOR
THESE REASONS WE SUPPORT A B
2015 AND RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU I
VOTE TODAY. THANK THANK YOU, MR
MURPHY AND THIS HùFOR LEAD
TESTIMONY IN FAVOR OF THE BILL.
ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT T AROSE LEGAL WOMEN
VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MISS ROSE.
ANYONE ELSE? YES. ANY CHILD AT
THE CALIFORNIA TEACHERS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. CAROLINE NGUYEN WITH THE
/C STUDENT ASSOCIATION AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. SEE NO ONE HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM WILL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES, MODERATOR, ANYONE
WHO WAS JUST TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT. WE'RE JUST TAKING NAME
AND AFFILIATION NOW. PLEASE ASK
THEM TO JOIN IN. TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. 9 43. LINE 43 LINE IS
OPEN. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS GREGORY CRAMER ON BEHALF
OF DISABILITY RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA
AND SUPPORT. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE
LINE 73. PARDON ME, ALLIANCE 75.
BORDER TRUSTEES. HE SHOULD
THOMAS OR FRESNO UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT. QUOTE IN FAVOR. THANK
YOU. 1973. HELLO THIS IS ELISE
PH DRINK WITH CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS CALLING IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE 67.
MORNING ERIKA BRADLEY ON BEHALF
OF SECRETARY OF STATE, SHIRLEY
AND LABOR, PHD AND SUPPORTED A
BETWEEN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN
. WE HAVE NO FURTHER LINES IN. Q
ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. WE'LL GO
TO THOSE IN OPPOSITION. ANYONE
HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM? SEEN
AND WILL GO TO THE PHONE LINES
MODERATOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. JUST
TESTIFYING. OPPOSITION PRESS
ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. GOT
A LINE 26. HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR
ME? WE CAN GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
SOME OF THE HOLIDAYS, FORMER
TRUSTING MEMBER GAMBLIN JOINT
COMMUNITY COLLEGE. VISUALLY
IMPAIRED WHEELCHAIR BOUND. I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS FILM. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT CALLER,
PLEASE. LINE 53. ABSOLUTELY
FRIED PLASTER COUNTY. ESPECIALLY
ASKING FOR YOUR NO VOTE ON A B
28 15. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MA'AM. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. LINE
77. IN THE MASTER PLEASURE
PANTIES. I OPPOSE THIS HILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
CALLER. FIND 72. ON BEHALF OF
GNP, BRADLEY AND LADIES OF
LIBERTY, ASKING FOR A NO VOTE.
MAYBE 2815. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. NEXT CALLER LINE 68. I'M
SORRY. I KNOW I'M GOING INTO
FOURTH OF THE BILL BRANDY
BUILDING, RIGHT? OKAY. THANK
YOU. NEXT CALLER, PLEASE. THERE
ARE NO FURTHER LINES IN. Q WE'VE
HEARD FROM SUPPORTERS AND
OPPONENTS AND OUR PUBLIC
TESTIMONY WILL BRING THE MATTER
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, SENATOR
NEWMAN UH, MR BERMAN, UH, WANT
TO COMMEND YOU WHEN I TRY EFFECT
OF GOOD BILLS HERE, SO THIS IS
IN KEEPING WITH YOUR EXCELLENT
WORK IS THE CHAIR OR NOW THE
FORMER CHAIR OF THE ASSEMBLY
COMMITTEE ON ELECTIONS. SO
THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS. I
ACTUALLY WANT TO SAY FIRST.
THANK YOU TO MISS HOR YOUR
PARTICIPATION. YOU'VE GIVEN MY
WIFE ADDITIONAL, UH, AMMUNITION
FOR HER ASSERTION. SHE WENT TO A
BETTER SCHOOL THAN I DID SHOES
FROM UCSB AS WELL. BUT I
ACTUALLY FEEL THE NEED TO THE
CALLER WHO KEEPS CALLING IN AND
MAKING THE ASSERTION THAT WE
WERE DENYING PEOPLE THE CHANCE
TO BE THE LEAD WITH INSTEAD IS
NOT TRUE. THERE IS A PROCESS FOR
THIS COMMITTEE LIKE EVERY OTHER
COMMITTEE TO REGISTER AND BE
HEARD AS A LEAD WITNESS IN BOTH
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. TODAY. WE
DIDN'T HAVE THE LEAD WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION BECAUSE NOBODY
FOLLOWED THAT PROCESS. IT'S NOT
BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE WOULD DENY
ANYBODY THAT OPPORTUNITY, SO I
JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR
BECAUSE I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE
LEFT AN IMPRESSION OTHERWISE
SAID THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK
YOU, SENATOR NEWMAN CHAIR AND
WAITING ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT I DON'T SEE
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE AND
MAYBE RECOGNIZE YOUR CONTRIBUTOR
FROM YOUR OFFICE? WHO SUGGESTED
THIS MY ASSEMBLY FELLOW ALI
UMEMOTO, WHO'S WHO'S HERE WITH
US TODAY? THANK YOU, ELLIOT IDEA
, VERY GRATEFUL TO ALI FOR THIS
WORK AS WELL AS WORK ON LOTS OF
OTHER ISSUES. AND APPRECIATE
YOUR SUPPORT. RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERMAN. I SAW
MOTION FROM SENATOR HERZBERG.
THIS WOULD BE A DO PASS AND A
REFERRAL TO OUR APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. WONDERFUL COMMITTEE.
WELCOME YOU WITH OPEN ARMS, I
HOPE THAT THE SECRETARY CALL THE
ROLL. A B 28 15 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERMAN GLASER
GLASER I, NILSSON, NILSSON. NO,
HERZBERG! HERZBERG I LEVER
LEVER. I NEWMAN NEWMAN. AYE.
ALRIGHT. THAT BILL IS ABOUT 4 TO
1. NOW WE HAVE SOME HOUSEKEEPING
TO DO BEFORE WE CLOSE OUR
COMMITTEE. WE'RE GOING TO GO
BACK TO CALLS, BUT I KNOW I'M
GOING TO LOSE PEOPLE PRETTY
QUICK WHEN WE FINISH THAT SO AS
SENATORS IF YOU COULD GET YOUR
ATTENTION FOR A SECOND I DON'T
EXPECT THIS TO BE THE LAST
HEARING OF THE YEAR, BUT IT HAS
THAT POTENTIAL. AND ACCORDINGLY,
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE SENATOR
LEYVA AND SENATOR NIELSEN FOR
YOUR EXTRAORDINARY PARTICIPATION
IN OUR ELECTIONS COMMITTEE THIS
YEAR. WE APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU
AND THE WISDOM AND INSIGHT THAT
YOU BRING SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT
OF HUMOR. BUT ALL OF AH! I WAS
SAVING YOU TILL LAST REALLY?
THAT. IF YOU HAD BEEN HERE
EARLIER FOR YOUR VOTES, YOU HAVE
BEEN TREATED A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENTLY. EVERYTHING ELSE?
YEAH. SENATOR HERTZBERG. YOU'RE
A SPECIAL PERSON TO RECOGNIZE.
UH IF YOU HAVE SERVED. I MEAN,
SENATOR NIELSEN. I DON'T KNOW
HOW MANY DECADES IT'S BEEN, BUT
YOU CERTAINLY ARE NOT TOO FAR
BEHIND IN YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR
STATE AND TO OUR ELECTIONS
PROCESS AND OUR DEMOCRACY. AND
SO WE RECOGNIZE ALL THREE OF
YOU. WE HOPE WE'LL SEE YOU BACK
, MAYBE IN A MONTH OR TWO FOR A
FEW CLEANUP BILLS. WE MAY COME
OVER FROM THE ASSEMBLY. OF OURS
, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR
PARTICIPATION, AND I HOPE THAT
WE CAN FIND WAYS TO RECOGNIZE
THAT GOING FORWARD. SO I ALSO
WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAD. WE HAD
SCOTT MATSUMOTO ARE WONDERFUL
CONSULTANT. BUT WE ALSO HAD SOME
HELP WITH OUR AGENDA THIS THIS
MONTH, KAREN FRENCH WHO CAME
BACK TO, UH, ASSIST IN THE
REVIEW OF ALL THESE WONDERFUL
ASSEMBLY BILLS THAT SEEM TO COME
OVER OUR WAY. THERE NEVER
STOPPED OVER THERE. THEY JUST
COME. KEEP COMING. BUT, KAREN,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION
IN HELP THIS YEAR AS WELL.
SCOTT. AND THE COMMITTEE STAFF
ARE WONDERFUL COMMITTEE
SECRETARY MARIA. OKAY, SO WITH
THAT WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP THE
CALLS THAT WE HAVE. I SHOW THE
FIRST ONE BEING ITEM NUMBER SIX
A B 25 84 IF YOU CAN OPEN THE
ROLL ON THAT BILL. A B 25 84 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERMAN MOTION
IS DUE PASS. BUT FIRST BV
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
JUDICIARY. CURRENT VOTE IS THREE
EYES AND ONE NO WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING I AND THE VICE CHAIR
VOTING NO HERTZBERG PITTSBURGH.
I ALRIGHT? THAT BILL IS OUT. 4
TO 1 NEXT TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
MAYBE 26 08. SECRETARY CALL THE
ROLL AGAIN A B 26 8 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERMAN MOTION
IS DUE PASS. BUT FIRST BE WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. CURRENT VOTE IS
THREE EYES AND ONE NO WITH THE
CHAIR VOTING I AND THE VICE
CHAIR VOTING NO. PITTSBURGH
PITTSBURGH AT 4 TO 1 LAST BILL
FIGHT OFF FILE ITEM NUMBER 9 28
41. A B 28 41 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S LOW MOTION IS
DUE PAST BUT FOR HIS BE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY,
CURRENT VOTERS, THREE EYES AND
ONE NO WITH THE CHAIR VOTING I
AND THE VICE CHAIR VOTING NO
HERTZBERG PITTSBURGH. I THANK
YOU, SIR. THAT BILL IS OUT 4 TO
1. OKAY, THAT COMPLETES OUR
AGENDA FOR THE DAY. THANK YOU TO
THE ALL THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC TESTIMONY
TODAY. IF YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO
TESTIFY, PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR
COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS IN
WRITING TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE
ON ELECTIONS AND CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENTS OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE.
COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS ARE
IMPORTANT TO US. WE WANT TO
INCLUDE YOUR TESTIMONY AND THE
OFFICIAL HEARING RECORD. THANK
YOU, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR
PARTICIPATION. THANK YOU TO MY
COLLEAGUES. WITH THAT OUR AGENDA
IS CONCLUDED IN THIS MEETING IS
ADJOURNED.