SENATE COMMITTEE ON BUSINESS
PROFESSIONS, ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT WILL COME TO ORDER
YES, IT IS THE AFTERNOON. GOOD
AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE AS WE CONTINUE TO
TAKE SOME PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE
ONGOING COVID 19 RISKS. THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME HE
PUBLIC AND HAS PROVIDED ACCESS
TO BOTH IN PERSON AND
TELECONFERENCE PARTICIPATION FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT. FOR ALL
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT. THE PARTICIPANT,
TOLL FREE NUMBER AND ACCESS CODE
IS POSTED ON A COMMITTEE
WEBSITE. IT WILL BE DISPLAYED ON
THE SCREEN AND I WILL ANNOUNCE
IT NOW. TODAY'S PARTICIPANT
NUMBER IS 844291636. AND THE
ACCESS CODE IS 7110709. I WILL
MAINTAIN DECORUM DURING THIS
HEARING AS WE ARE CUSTOMARILY DO
HERE, AND ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS
DISRUPTIVE MAY BE REMOVED FROM
THE REMOTE MEETING SERVICE OR
HAVE THEIR CONNECTIONS MUTED. AS
YOU CAN TELL. WE'RE HOLDING
TODAY'S COMMITTEE HEARING AND
ARE 10 21. OH STREET LOCATION.
I'LL ASK ALL MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. TO VISIT US IN ROOM
1200 SO WE MAY ESTABLISH OUR
QUORUM. AND MOVE FORWARD WITH
THIS HEARING. WE HAVE 18 BILLS
ON TODAY'S AGENDA. FILE ITEMS
NUMBER EIGHT A B 18 94 NUMBER 12
A B 23-14 NUMBER 16 MAYBE 26 06.
AND NUMBER 17 A B 26 82 HAVE
BEEN REMOVED FROM OUR FILE AND
WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED TODAY.
THERE IS ONE BILL PROPOSED FOR
CONSENT FILE ITEM NUMBER 15
ASSEMBLY BILL 25 74. AT SUCH
TIME AS WE ESTABLISHED THE CORE.
UM WE WILL TAKE UP THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AND MOVE FORWARD. AT
THIS POINT, WE WILL FUNCTION AS
A SUBCOMMITTEE. I SEE THAT WE
HAVE SEE WHO'S FIRST ON THE
LIST. I THINK. WELL, MR KIRK WAS
HERE FIRST, BUT SOME MEMBER
KALRA, YOU'RE STANDING AH, FLIP
A COIN. WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST.
TEMBO REMEMBER QUIRK, PLEASE
MOVE FORWARD YOUR ITEM NUMBER 11
ASSEMBLY BILL 22. 10. UM. THANK
YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS. UM. IN
2018 ARTHUR TO BUILD THAT ALLOWS
THE DEPARTMENT OF CANNABIS
CONTROLLED AGAINST GRANT
TEMPORARY LICENSES FOR THE SALE
OF CANNABIS AT VENUES. THAT ARE
APPROVED BY LOCAL AUTHORITIES.
HOWEVER, SUB BUSINESSES HAVE HAD
THEIR PERMIT DENIED. BECAUSE IT
PROPOSED VENUE ALSO HOLDS THE
LICENSE TO SELL ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES. MIGHT BE, UH, THE
STATE FAIRGROUND OR SOME OTHER
PLACE TO SAY, HAS LOCATED SELL
BEER. THIS WOULD MAKE SURE THAT
BUSINESSES IN VENUES THAT WANNA
HOLD SPECIAL EVENTS ARE NOT
DENIED BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT
LICENSE TO SELL ALCOHOL
BEVERAGES. THE BILL MAINTAINS
THE EXISTING PROTECTIONS
REQUIRED UNDER CURRENT LAW AND
HAVE TAKEN AMENDMENTS THAT
REMOVE ALL OPPOSITION. AND
ADDRESS DEPARTMENT CONCERNS. THE
BILL EXPLICITLY SAY TO THE SALE
AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES WILL BE SUSPENDED THE
DAY OF THE CANNABIS EVENT. THIS
BILL WILL HAVE ALLOWED CANNABIS
LICENSEES TO BRING UNSOLD
INDUSTRY BACK TO THE ORIGINAL
RETAIL PREMISES AS LONG AS THE
PRODUCTS ARE UNOPENED AND
CAPTURED IN THE STATES TRACK AND
TRACE SYSTEM. THIS BILL WILL
HELP BUSINESSES IN VENUES THAT
SEEK TO HOLD TEMPORARY CANNABIS
EVENTS. BY EXPANDING THE
AVAILABLE VENUES AND REDUCING
THE WASTE OF UNSOLD PRODUCTS.
WITH ME IS AMY JENKINS,
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
CANNABIS INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT. MISS
JENKINS. YOU KNOW THE RULES
THREE MINUTES. YOU MR CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS AMY JENKINS HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
CANNABIS INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION.
WE WERE A VERY PROUD CO SPONSOR
OF THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION IN
2018, WHICH PERMITTED THE
ISSUANCE OF TEMPORARY EVENT
LICENSES, AND I WOULD NOTE THAT
THIS WAS VERY HARD FOUGHT
LEGISLATION THAT WAS DEVELOPED
IN CONSULTATION WITH PUBLIC
SAFETY. LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND
PUBLIC HEALTH CARE ADVOCATES,
AND WE REALLY TRIED TO
INCORPORATE PROVISIONS IN THAT
BILL TO REALLY SAFEGUARD BY
ESTABLISHING IMPORTANT PUBLIC
SAFETY PROTOCOLS AIMED AT
DETERRING YOUTH ACCESS AND
PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY. WHAT WE DIDN'T
CONTEMPLATE AT THAT TIME WHEN
THE LEGISLATION WAS DEVELOPED
WAS HOW THE ABC WOULD INTERPRET
THE BILL'S PROVISIONS.
SPECIFICALLY THAT ANY VENUE WITH
AN EXISTING ABC LICENSE WOULD
NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE USED AS A
TEMPORARY CANNABIS EVENT, EVEN
WHEN ALCOHOL IS NOT CONSUMED ON
THE PREMISES. SO THIS HAS HAD
THE EFFECT OF SEVERELY LIMITING
WHERE TEMPORARY EVENTS CAN OCCUR
, AS MOST EVENT VENUES MAINTAIN
AN ACTIVE ABC LICENSE, MAYBE 20
TO 10 WILL BRING MUCH NEEDED
CLARITY TO THE CURRENT TEMPORARY
CANNABIS EVENT PROVISION BY
CLARIFYING THAT VENUES WITH AN
EXISTING ABC LICENSE MAY BE USED
FOR TEMPORARY CANNABIS EVENTS.
PROVIDED THAT THE EVENT
ORGANIZERS MEET ALL THE EXISTING
PROTOCOLS AND THAT NO ALCOHOL IS
CONSUMED. IT ALSO CLARIFIES AS
THE ASSEMBLYMAN NOTED THAT
SPECIAL EVENTS CAN RETURN THEIR
UNSOLD PRODUCTS SO THIS WILL
DEAL WITH WASTEFUL AND NEEDLESS
ISSUES WHERE WE HAVE TO DESTROY
PRODUCT THAT'S UNSOLD. UM WE
HAVE LONG ASSISI, A TALKED ABOUT
TRYING TO PROVIDE A LEG UP FOR
THE LEGAL MARKET. THIS ALLOWS OR
PROVIDES OTHER OPTIONS TO
SHOWCASE LEGAL PRODUCTS. AND FOR
THESE REASONS, WE FEEL IT'S AN
IMPORTANT BILL. AND RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR I VOTE TODAY. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. NOW,
LET'S HEAR FROM ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM AND SUPPORTED THE MEASURE.
pPLEASE. MORE EMPTY NET ON BEHALF%
pPLEASE. MORE EMPTY NET ON BEHALF%-OF THE UNITED CANNABIS
BUSINESSES WILL SEE ATION THAT
SAN FRANCISCO CANADA'S RETAILERS
ALLIANCE THAT COULD CHILL OUT
BELLY CANNABIS NETWORK, THE
LANGUAGE COLLECTIVE ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU, SIR. ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN THE HEARING
ROOM AND SUPPORTED THIS MEASURE,
SEEING NONE. LET'S MOVE TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
THE TELECONFERENCE SERVICE
MODERATOR. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT ANY SUCH INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
ASSEMBLY BILL 22 10, WE WILL
BEGIN WITH THEM. THANK YOU IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
A PEACE 22 10 IS PRESSED ONCE
AND ZERO AT THIS TIME. I HAVE NO
COMMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MODERATOR. LET'S FOLLOW THE SAME
PROCESS AND HEAR FROM ANY
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. FIRST
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN THE
HEARING ROOM. SEEING NONE. LET'S
MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MODERATOR
ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT ANY SUCH INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION
TO ASSEMBLY, BILL 22 10, WE WILL
CONTINUE WITH THEM. THANK YOU IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
TO ÁP 22 10 PRESS ONE AND ZERO
AT THIS TIME. I HAD NO COMMENT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MODERATOR
. LET'S BRING THE CONVERSATION
BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES AND
HEARING ROOM COLLEAGUES ANY
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS
, SAYING NONE AT SUCH TIME. AS
WE HAVE A QUORUM, WE WILL TAKE A
MOTION AND A VOTE. AH WAITING
AWAITING THAT TO SOME REMEMBER
QUIRK. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
YES DO YOU HAVE A QUORUM NOW?
23456 WE NEED EIGHT. OH, MY ALL
RIGHT. WELL, THIS IS A LARGE
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE A QUORUM, I
REQUEST AND I VOTE. THANK YOU,
SIR. APPRECIATE YOUR
PRESENTATION. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CHOLERA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN
ASSEMBLY BILL 18 85. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PATIENCE, SIR. PROCEED WHEN
READY. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT A B 18 85 4 YEARS AGO,
THE COMMITTEE PAST MY A B 22 15,
WHICH ALLOWED VETERINARIANS TO
DISCUSS THE USE OF CANNABIS
WITHOUT FEAR OF LOSING THEIR
STATE LICENSE AND ALSO ALLOW
CONSUMERS TO ACCESS CANNABIS FOR
THERAPEUTIC ANIMAL USED THROUGH
REGULATED DISPENSARIES. MAYBE 20
TO 15 WENT ON TO PASS BOTH
HOUSES WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT
AND WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY
GOVERNOR BROWN. SINCE THEN THERE
HAS BEEN MOUNTING EVIDENCE
SUPPORTING THE THERAPEUTIC
EFFECTS OF CANNABIS USE IN
ANIMALS. MANY PET OWNERS ARE
ALREADY AWARE OF THESE FINDINGS
AND HAVE BEGUN GIVING THEIR
ANIMALS CANNABIS PRODUCTS.
UNFORTUNATELY THE VAST MAJORITY
OF THESE PET OWNERS ARE DOING SO
WITHOUT ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR
GUIDANCE FROM A VETERINARIAN.
IT'S TIME TO ALLOW VETERINARIANS
TO RECOMMEND SAFE REGULATED
THERAPEUTIC CANNABIS PRODUCTS
FOR THEIR ANIMAL PATIENTS. IF WE
DO NOT, PET OWNERS WILL HAVE NO
CHOICE BUT TO TURN TO UNSAFE PET
CANNABIS PRACTICES LIKE GIVING
THEIR ANIMALS CANNABIS PRODUCTS
DESIGNED FOR HUMANS OR RELYING
UPON THE UNREGULATED UNDERGROUND
MARKET. A B 18 85 WOULD REQUIRE
THE VETERINARY MEDICAL BOARD TO
ADOPT GUIDELINES FOR
VETERINARIANS TO FOLLOW WHEN
THEY RECOMMEND THE USE OF
CANNABIS DERIVED THERAPEUTIC
PRODUCTS ON AN ANIMAL WITHIN THE
VETERINARIAN, CLIENT PATIENT
RELATIONSHIP. SIMILAR GUIDELINES
FOR PHYSICIANS RECOMMENDING
CANNABIS WERE DEVELOPED BY THE
MEDICAL BOARD OF CALIFORNIA. TO
ENSURE THAT CANNABIS PRODUCTS
INTENDED FOR ANIMAL USER
AVAILABLE TO CONSUMERS AND
REGULATED MARKET. A B 18 85 AS
THEM TO THE EXISTING DEFINITION
UNDER MY CURSOR TO THE MEDICINAL
AND ADULT USE, CANNABIS
REGULATION AND SAFETY ACT. IT
ALSO ALLOWS CONSUMERS TO ACCESS
THEM THROUGH LICENSED
DISPENSARY. DISPENSARIES THAT
THEY ADHERE TO CANNABIS
REGULATIONS AND RELEVANT
MANUFACTURING, PACKAGING AND
LABELING STANDARDS. I BELIEVE
THAT THIS BILL STRIKES A
REASONABLE BALANCE BETWEEN THE
EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE
REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR
CANNABIS AND THE ABILITY OF
VETERINARY PROFESSIONALS TO
PROVIDE CLEAR RECOMMENDATIONS
AND GUIDANCE TO THEIR CLIENTS.
THIS BALANCE WILL ENSURE THAT
PETS CAN SAFELY BENEFIT FROM THE
MANY THERAPEUTIC USES OF
CANNABIS. A B 18 85 IS SUPPORTED
BY THE CALIFORNIA VETERINARY
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION. BUSINESS
GROUPS LIKE THE CALIFORNIA
CANNABIS INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
AND BEST FRIENDS ANIMAL SOCIETY
, ONE OF THE NATION'S LEADING
ANIMAL WELFARE AND RESCUE
ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS. WITH ME
AS WITNESSES ARE ELIZABETH ORIC
, NATIONAL MANAGER OF
INITIATIVES ARE BEST FRIENDS,
ANIMAL SOCIETY. I BELIEVE SHE
MAY BE ON THE PHONE AND PAMELA
LOPEZ, MANAGING PARTNER AT K
STREET CONSULTING. ON BEHALF OF
THE PET CANNABIS COALITION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MISSOURI. MS
LOPEZ, PLEASE PROCEED. REMEMBER
TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES BETWEEN
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE YOU
ABLE TO HEAR ME PERFECTLY,
PLEASE PROCEED. GOOD AFTERNOON,
MR STEERING COMMITTEE. MEMBERS
MY NAME IS ELIZABETH ORIC, AND
I'M, THE CALIFORNIA POLICY
DIRECTOR FOR THE NATIONAL
NONPROFIT BEST FRIENDS, ANIMAL
SOCIETY, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF
OF OUR THOUSANDS OF CALIFORNIA
MEMBERS, SUPPORTERS, PARTNERS
AND STAFF IN SUPPORT OF A B 18
85. IN 2021, ALMOST HALF A
MILLION CATS AND DOGS ENTERED
CALIFORNIA SHELTERS AND MORE
THAN 37,000 WERE KILLED SIMPLY
BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SAFE
PLACE TO CALL HOME. BEST FRIEND
NUMBER TO ZERO SO THAT EVERY PET
IN CALIFORNIA SHELTERS IS ABLE
TO FIND A HOME AND ONE OF THE
WAYS TO ACHIEVE POSITIVE
OUTCOMES ENSURE THAT PETS HAVE
ACCESS. FOR ANY AND ALL
THERAPIES THAT MIGHT INCREASE
THEIR CHANCES OF GETTING ADOPTED
AND SHELTERS FOR A VARIETY OF
REASONS, BUT OFTEN IT'S BECAUSE
THEY'RE FACING PHYSICAL,
BEHAVIORAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL
CHALLENGES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN
FULLY ADDRESSED. AND SOMETIMES
IT'S CHALLENGES OCCURRED BECAUSE
THEY PLANTED FINNISH CULTURE
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THERAPEUTIC
CANNABIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TOOLS%
WELL AND HAVE THE BEST CHANCE
THAT ADOPTION WHETHER THAT'S
TREATING ILLNESSES PROFOUND AS
EPILEPSY OR CONDITIONS AS COMMON
AS ARTHRITIS PAIN, ALTHOUGH
CANNABIS IS SUCCESSFUL IN
CALIFORNIA DO CURRENTLY NOT
ACCESSIBLE THIS WILL ALLOW
VETERINARIANS THERAPEUTIC
CANNABIS WITH PET PARENTS AND
ANIMAL RESCUERS WITHOUT FEAR OF
LEGAL REPERCUSSIONS AND PROVIDE
ACCESS TO LICENSE AND LEGAL
PRODUCTS, CLEAR LABELS AND
INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE IN ANIMALS.
AND THAT IS LIKE THAT IS VERY
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. AND
WE URGE YOUR IPHONE TODAY. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT,
PLEASE. IT'S ON BEHALF OF THE
PET CANNABIS ORGANIZATION WHEN
RETAIL DISPENSARIES OPENED IN
CALIFORNIA, LICENSED AND LEGAL
ON JANUARY 1 2018. PET OWNERS
HAD ACCESS TO CANNABIS THERAPIES
FOR THEIR PETS. UNFORTUNATELY
THE DEPARTMENT OF CANNABIS
CONTROL REALIZED AFTER ABOUT 2.5
YEARS THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE
REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER THESE
PRODUCTS. AND THEY HAD TO PULL
THEM FROM THE MARKET. OUR
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT IN THE FINAL
YEAR THAT THEY WERE AVAILABLE
MORE THAN 10,000 FAMILIES ACCESS
TO THESE THERAPIES FOR THEIR
PETS, 21 88 WOULD GIVE DCC
LICENSING AND REGULATORY
AUTHORITY OVER PET CANNABIS
PRODUCTS, BRINGING THEM UNDER
THE SAME HIGH QUALITY STANDARDS
THAT REGULATE HUMAN PRODUCTS.
AND OF COURSE, ALSO GIVE
VETERINARIANS THE ABILITY TO
MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT PET
PARENTS HAVE CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS
ON THESE THERAPIES, WHICH ARE
EFFECTIVE FOR PAIN, ANXIETY,
INFLAMMATION, NAUSEA AND
SEIZURES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME TODAY AND THANK YOU TO
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S KALRA FOR THIS
IMPORTANT BILL. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. NOW. LET'S HEAR FROM ANY
OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT AND
HEARING ROOM. NAME AFFILIATION
POSITION, PLEASE AMY JENKINS ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
CANNABIS INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION,
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU NEXT,
PLEASE. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS,
RAND MARTIN ON BEHALF OF THE
PARENT COMPANY AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR. NOW LET'S MOVE
TO WITNESSES WILLING TO TESTIFY
VIA TELECONFERENCE SERVICE. IN
SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE.
MODERATOR, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT ANY SUCH INDIVIDUALS
WAITING HAS FIND SUPPORT OF
ASSEMBLY BILL 18 85, WE WILL
BEGIN WITH THEM. THANK YOU IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
A B 18 85 PRESS ONES AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME. IT'LL BE JUST ONE
MOMENT FOR FIRST COMMENT.
COMMENTS FROM LINE 36, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS, CRISTINA DICARO,
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
VETERINARY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU NEXT,
PLEASE. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO
FURTHER COMMENT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LET'S FOLLOW THE SAME
PROCESS AND HEAR FROM ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
MEASURE. FIRST WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM SEEING NONE. LET'S MOVE TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE MODERATOR ONCE AGAIN IF
YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY SUCH
INDIVIDUALS WAITING, TESTIFYING
OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY BILL 18
85, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THEM.
THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION TO A B 18 85 PRESS
10 AT THIS TIME. I HAVE NO
COMMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MODERATOR, BRINGING THE MATTER
BACK TO THE HEARING ROOM
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AND CONCERNS
COLLEAGUES. VERY SENATOR PAN
BEAT ME TO IT SAID SOMEONE
REMEMBER CALLING THIS TO MY
MIND. THIS IS A GOOD AND
REASONABLE MEASURE HAPPY TO
SUPPORT SENATOR PEN WHEN HE
MOVES THE BILL. OKAY FIRST,
LET'S ESTABLISH A QUORUM. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. SENATORS ROCK WHO
GETS ROBBED. CENTER'S ROUGH
HERE. HERE HERE, MELINDA'S
ARCHULETTA BATES HERE, BECKER.
DODD EGGMAN. AND THEN HERE HERE
TO TOÀN JONES. JONES HERE. LLEVA
HERE, MEN IN HERE. NEWMAN NEWMAN
HERO CO BUG PAN. HERE HERE.
THANKYOU HAVE A QUORUM, DOCTOR
PAN. YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THANK
YOU. JUST A BRIEF COMMENT. FIRST
OF ALL, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY, UM,
SENATOR MEN WHO MOVED THE BILL,
SO I KNOW WE'RE BRINGING MASKS
SO UH, NO SEMI CAROL, I DO
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THE
BILL. UM YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE
OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA
STRUGGLE WITH IS THAT, UM YOU
KNOW, FOR HUMANS. WE HAVE VERY
LITTLE, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY,
BECAUSE CANNABIS IS TECHNICALLY
ILLEGAL FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, AT LEAST POSSESSION
USED, ETCETERA. BEEN CHALLENGING
TO RESEARCH THE PROBABLY HAVE
EQUAL CHALLENGES WITH DOING
RESEARCH AND ANIMALS AND, UM.
ANIMALS ARE NOT SMALL, YOU KNOW,
NOT HUMANS, RIGHT? SO THEY HAVE
DIFFERENT PHYSIOLOGY AND SO
FORTH. BUT I DO CERTAINLY
SUPPORT THE IDEA THAT WE GIVE
THE DISCRETION TO THE
VETERINARIANS. WHO ARE THE
EXPERTS IN THIS AND IN MAKING
THOSE KIND OF CALLS AND
DECISIONS. UM AND HOPEFULLY THE
YOU KNOW THE VETERINARY MEDICAL
BOARD WILL BE LOOKING AT THE
EVIDENCE. UM SOMETIMES THERE
THERE'S YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW
THAT THERE'S NO EVIDENCE AND
ALTHOUGH I THINK THAT IF THERE'S
A WAY AND AGAIN PROBABLY GOES
BEYOND WHAT YOUR BILLS TRYING TO
DO, AND NOW, IT SEEMS SUGGESTS
IT HAS TO BE WITH BILL, BUT WE
NEED WE DO NEED TO FIND WAYS TO
GET MORE EVIDENCE SO THAT THE
PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE GETTING
THE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU
KNOW, WILL CANNABIS HELP FOR MY
CAT OR DOG ACTUALLY HAVE
SOMETHING THEY CAN TELL THEM.
THAT'S EVIDENCE BASED SO
CERTAINLY SUPPORT YOUR BILL AND
BUT ALSO WOULDURGE THAT WE TRY
TO BUILD OUR KNOWLEDGE. SO
AROUND THIS SO THAT PET OWNERS
CAN GET ACCURATE INFORMATION
ABOUT HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR
PETS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
DOCTOR PAN, SEEING NO OTHER
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR CHAIRMAN AND SENATOR PANAM.
THIS IS, I GUESS,
UNINTENTIONALLY BECOME NOW ONE
OF MY TOPIC AREAS THAT I WILL
CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON MY TIME.
THE LEGISLATURE AND ALL YOUR
POINTS ARE VERY WELL TAKEN. I
APPRECIATE I WOULD APPRECIATE
NEITHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
SIR. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE
BILL. ASSEMBLY BILL 18 85 MOTION
BY SENATOR MEN. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS. WE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 18 85
MOTION IS DO PASS AND WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. ROTH MELINDA'S
ARCHULETTA BATES. BATES, I
BECKER. DODD. EGGMAN. EGGMAN. I
HEARD TATO JONES. JONES I LABOR
. AMEN WHEN I NEWMAN PATROL BOAT
PAN, AND I BILL HAS EIGHT VOTES
WILL HOLD THE ROPE AND PERHAPS
SOME MEMBERS. THANK YOU, SIR. DR
WEBBER. I SEE YOU IN IN THE
AUDIENCE. PLEASE PROCEED WITH
ITEM NUMBER THREE AND ITEM
NUMBER FOUR ASSEMBLY BILL 16 32
AND 16 36. WITH SIEGMAN READY?
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON,
SHARON SENATORS. I'M HERE TO
PRESENT A B 16 30 TO THE
RESTROOM ACCESS ACT, WHICH WOULD
PROVIDE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS
DIAGNOSED WITH CROHN'S DISEASE
OR ALL SORT OF COLITIS,
IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO AN EMPLOYEE
RESTROOM IF THERE IS NOT ONE
READILY AVAILABLE. THERE WERE
OVER 3.1 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE
UNITED STATES LIVING WITH
CROHN'S DISEASE ARE ALL SORT OF
COLITIS. AND THESE INDIVIDUALS
OFTEN SUFFER FROM DEBILITATING
URGENCY TO USE THE RESTROOM
IMMEDIATELY OR RISK HAVING AN
EMBARRASSING ACCIDENT. A B 16 32
INSURERS ACCESS TO A RESTROOM
FOR CUSTOMERS WHO PRESENT A
CERTIFIED CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT
OF PUBLIC HEALTH DOCUMENT SIGNED
BY A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
ATTESTING THAT THE CUSTOMER USES
AN ESTIMATE DEVICE HAS CROHN'S
DISEASE ALL SORT OF COLITIS OR
OTHER INFLAMMATORY BOWEL DISEASE
OR MEDICAL CONDITION REQUIRING
ACCESS TO A TOILET FACILITY
IMMEDIATELY. IF PASSED,
CALIFORNIA WOULD BE THE 16TH
STATE TO PASS IT. OTHER STATES,
INCLUDING ILLINOIS, NEW YORK,
TENNESSEE, TEXAS, COLORADO AND
OTHERS. AND BEFORE I MOVE IT TO
THE WITNESS. I DO WANT TO THANK
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR VERY
THOROUGH EVALUATION AND ANALYSIS
OF THIS BILL AND FOCUS ON SOME
OF THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS
THAT WERE ADDRESSED. ONE
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE ISSUE
ABOUT EMPLOYEE CHANGING STATIONS
, AND WE HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED
THAT LANGUAGE TO BE AMENDED AND
PASSED. IT WILL BE AMENDED IN
THE NEXT COMMITTEE. AND ALSO
WITH THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE THAT
WAS LANGUAGE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY
PLACED IN AT THE ASSEMBLY HEALTH
TO WORK TO FIX IT SO THAT THE
INTENT OF THIS BILL IS ABLE TO
BE PASSED AND SIGNED BY THE
GOVERNOR. BUT HERE TO SPEAK WITH
ME TODAY IS ASHLYN SALZBURG, A
YOUNG LADY WHO LIVED AND
ADVOCATES FOR THOSE WHO HAVE
IBD. THANK YOU. MS SALZBURG,
PLEASE PROCEED. KEEP IN MIND
THAT THE TIME LIMIT IS THREE
MINUTES. HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME
PERFECTLY. TO SPEAK UP. GOOD
MORNING, MIKEY. DOCTOR MY SISTER
IN LOS ANGELES AND I HAVE TOLD
TRIPS LIKE THIS OUTSIDE SEAT,
MA'AM OUT. WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE
UNDER. HAS MANY SYMPTOMS ONCE
THAT AFFECTS ME THE MOST PART
PERCENT IMMEDIATELY CLEARLY
MYSELF. DIRECTOR MA'AM, YOU'RE
BREAKING UP, MA'AM. YOU'RE
BREAKING UP. HELLO QUÊ, KNOWN AS
CORRECT. CONCERT HERE OF
WEAKENING. I NEVER FELT WHEN THE
BOOK COMES AND HAVING AN
ACCIDENT. IT'S NO RESTAURANT IS
AVAILABLE. THIS WILL HELP EASE
MY FEARS AND GIVE ME MY BACK MY
LIFE WITH THIS ACT, I WILL NO
LONGER BE REFUSED ACCESS CORRECT
WHEN IT'S NEEDED HELP. WELL HAD
PLENTY. I WANT YOU TO
EXPERIENCES THAT REALLY BROUGHT
WOUNDED TISSUE FROM TEENAGE
GIRL. RIGHT? TO YOURSELF
BEGINNING WE WENT TO THE FAMILY
FRIEND FATHER WHO ADAPTED TO
LIVING SECURITY. I WAS SO AFRAID
OF HAVING ANOTHER ACT. I JUST
STARTED HAVING A PLAYER USED FOR
THAT QUICKLY. BUT IT WAS AND I
WANTED TO VISIT MY GRANDFATHER
TOP. ALL THE FRIENDS WILL BE
HEALTHY. I'VE INSTANCE FIRST
SPOTS IT CAN SOMETHING NOT
BLASTING NÓ. MY HUSBAND AND I
WENT TO THE STATEMENT OR,
HOWEVER, COLLABORATIVE DIRECTOR. YEAH. HAVE A PARENT. NO. WE'VE
HAD ENOUGH. YEP. MS SALZBURG,
YOU'RE BREAKING UP. I DON'T KNOW
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME. CAN'T HEAR
THE QUESTION. THAT I STOPPED.
THANK YOU. CITED PART AND THEY
TOLD ME I CANNOT USE CORRECT.
BIDEN OF THE WISH. THEY'RE DOING
IT. URINATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, JIMMY. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
NOW LET'S HEAR FROM ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT WHO ARE
HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM, AND HE
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. PLANING.
MY PREDICAMENT. AND SELECTING.
MODERATOR NOT NO MODERATOR, CAN
YOU CONTACT THE WITNESS SO
NERVOUS OF HAVING AN ACCIDENT?
BUT WHAT HAPPENED? IT'S THE LAST
PLACE NOT WITH ME ACCESS MUSIC
EXPERIENCES HAPPENED CAMPAIGN TO
HELP ME LIKE THAT DREAM. I HAVE
ALL I DID. PRESS EFFORTS FIRST
COMPLICATE, PLEASE. NO I KNOW SO
MANY KIDS LIKE ME TO LEAVE YOUR
HOUSE. YOUR FAULT, SIMILAR
ABSENCE. WHAT KIND OF ACCESS
YES. NO MODERATOR, LOCAL UNION
STORE. ACCESS TO THE ACTION
SHOULD BE CAREFUL AND RIDICULOUS
AND THEIR CONSUMER STATION.
THREE THANK YOU. NOW, LET'S MOVE
TO ANY WITNESSES HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM AND SUPPORT ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. MM SEEING
NONE. LET'S MOVE TO WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT WAITING TO TESTIFY
VIA THE TELECONFERENCE SERVICE.
MODERATOR IF YOU'RE THERE, WOULD
YOU PLEASE PROMPT ANY
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT OF ASSEMBLY BILL 16
32. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THEM.
THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF ÁP 16 30 SUPES
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. START
WITH LINE 24 PEOPLE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU, SHERIFF RYAN AND
TRUMP HAS THE THRONE AND
COLLIDED FOUNDATION IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU NEXT, PLEASE. THANK
YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS
. THANK YOU. THANKS. LET'S
FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS AND HEAR
FROM ANY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION FIRST OPPOSITION
WITNESSES AND HEARING ROOM.
SEEING NONE. LET'S MOVE TO THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE AND
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION THERE. MODERATOR ONCE
AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD PROMPT ANY
INDIVIDUALS WEIGHT AND TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY BILL
16 32. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH
THEM. MY NOTES. CINDY SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO ÁP 16 32 PRESS 10
AND MY NOTES INDICATE THAT
THERE'S A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
ON THE LINE AND OPPOSITION. YES
MR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT.
I CAN CHECK IN WITH ME IN A
LITTLE BIT, AND WELL, I'LL GIVE
YOU A FOLLOW UP REPORT. PLEASE
PROCEED. BEEN HERE. FEEDBACK. OH
HELL. FEEDBACK ABOUT. TRYING TO
HELP YOU. ARE YOU? ARE YOU WANNA
STILL MISSED? SIR? ARE YOU ON A
SPEAKERPHONE? YES BUT I DON'T
THINK I'M GENERATING IT. IS IT
BETTER? YES IT IS. SO WHATEVER
YOU WERE DOING BEFORE, DON'T DO
IT AND CONTINUE DOING WHAT
YOU'RE DOING NOW. OKAY UH, TO
ATTEND ROBERT, CALIFORNIA TRIP
CONVERT. WE ARE OPPOSED. ÁP 16
30 FEW, REGRETTABLY, FIRST AND
FOREMOST, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
AUTHOR. AND THE AUTHOR STAFF FOR
EXTENSIVE DISCUSSIONS WORKING
WITH CLIENT DEMAND TO ADDRESS
WORKPLACE SAFETY AND CLARITY
CONCERNS. THANKFULLY THOSE
CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED,
HOWEVER, THAT WE MUST REMAIN
OPPOSED TO THE LANGUAGE WAS
ADDED IN A PRIOR COMMITTEE AND
WAS NOTED BY THE THOROUGH
ANALYSIS. ENFORCEMENT
SPECIFIALLY THIS LANGUAGE
PROHIBIT EMPLOYERS PLANNING AN
EMPLOYEE WHO VIOLATES WRITTEN
INTO THE BILL, UM, AGAIN CALLED
OUT IN COMMITTEE ANNOUNCED. WE
APPRECIATE THEIR THOROUGHNESS ON
THAT POINT. PROVISIONS FOR
REFERENCE IS SUPPOSED SECTION
118702 C. THREE UM, THE
PROVISION MAKES IMPOSSIBLE FOR
US TO GO NEUTRAL AS WE ARE
ENFORCING THE BILL, BUT ARE
FINANCIALLY ON POST DIFFERENCES
. VIOLATION WE CANNOT AND WE
CANNOT ENFORCE COMPLIANCE VOICE.
AGAIN WE APPRECIATE THE OFFICE
ENGAGEMENT IN THE WORK STAFF,
YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS AH, THIS
PROVISION IS LIKELY NOT. THERE
ARE THEIR IDEA. BUT THIS VISION
KEEP THAT FROM GOING. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MODERATOR, ANY OTHER
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION? THINK
DO I HAVE NOT LIKE EUROPE? YOU
SAID NINE QUEUED UP. CORRECT WE
HAVE NO COMMENTS OVER THE PHONE.
WE'RE HAVING AN AUDIO PROBLEM
WITH THE SERVICE TODAY, SO WE'LL
HAVE TO WORK ON THAT SOMEWHERE.
OKAY LET'S BRING THE
CONVERSATION BACK TO MY
COLLEAGUES IN THE HEARING ROOM
COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS, COMMENTS
CONCERNS I SAW DR PANS. END UP
SENATOR BATES AND SENATOR
NEWMAN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND
, UH, DR WEBBER APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE
BILL. AND UM AND CERTAINLY THE
PATIENTS WHO NEED THE ACCESS TO
THE RESTROOMS. YOU SAID TWO
QUESTIONS. I KNOW. YOU SORT OF
ADDRESSED ONE OF THEM. UM ONE IS
THAT IF YOU'RE A RETAIL FACILITY
, AND YOU DO HAVE A RESTROOM FOR
THE PUBLIC ARE YOU STILL
OBLIGATED TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO
USE AN EMPLOYEE RESTROOM WHICH
AGAIN? YOU KNOW, EITHER MAYBE
LOCATE DIFFERENT PLACE, OR JUST
THAT EMPLOYEES WOULD PREFER NOT
TO HAVE THE PUBLIC TRAIPSING
THROUGH AND USING THE RESTROOM,
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES MAINTAINING
RESTROOM, CLEANLINESS AND OTHER
THINGS CAN BE A LITTLE
CHALLENGING. SO AS LONG IF SO,
AS LONG AS THERE'S A RESTROOM
ACCESSIBLE THAT WOULD SATISFY
THIS. I WASN'T SURE WHETHER IN
THIS BILL THAT'S CLEAR THAT AS
LONG AS YOU HAVE A RESTROOM
AVAILABLE DO YOU HAVE TO ALLOW
ACCESS TO THEM TO DEPLOY
RESTROOM? NO. IF THE PUBLIC
RESTROOM IS AVAILABLE THAN THEY
WOULD USE THAT ONE, EVEN IF
SOMEONE'S OCCUPYING IT. BUT YOU
HAVE ONE IF SOMEONE IS OCCUPYING
IT, AND THEY NEED TO USE THE
RESTROOM IMMEDIATELY. I MEAN,
YOU KNOW ABOUT PATIENTS WITH YOU
KNOW EVERYTHING THEN THEN THEY
WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE
EMPLOYEE RESTROOM IF THAT WAS
AVAILABLE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
THINGS A LITTLE BIT OF A
CHALLENGE BECAUSE YOU KNOW,
DEPENDING, ETCETERA, BECAUSE
THERE'S AND THEN THE AND THEN
THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT AND I
KNOW THAT YOU AREN'T THE ONE WHO
PUT IT IN THERE. ANOTHER
COMMITTEE AND YOU CAN'T
NECESSARILY SPEAK FOR THEM. BUT
CLEARLY THIS IS AN ISSUE. LET'S
POINT OUT ANALYSIS. THE
OPPOSITION IN TERMS OF SAYING
THAT YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY, UM
BASICALLY HAVE CONSEQUENCES FOR
THE EMPLOYEE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO
ENFORCE THE LAW, BUT YET THE
BUSINESS ITSELF COULD BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE. DO YOU? CAN YOU
MAYBE ELABORATE ON AND AGAIN? I
KNOW YOU'RE NOT THE ONE WHO PUT
IT IN THERE ON THE RATIONALE
THAT WAS GIVEN FOR ASKING FOR
THE AMENDMENT OR SOME, YOU KNOW,
SO YEAH. SO WHAT I WAS TOLD IS
THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH PROVISIONS
IN THE LAW TO PROTECT THE
BUSINESSES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS
TOLD WHEN IT WAS PLACED IN
ASSEMBLY HEALTH. OKAY ALL RIGHT
NOW, I APPRECIATE THAT, UM, I
THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A VIVID
CHALLENGE THERE. AND THAT'S WHY
I'M SAYING I'M HOPEFULLY, WE CAN
CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION TO FIX
THAT LANGUAGE. OKAY YEAH,
BECAUSE I THINK WITHOUT IT BEING
FIXED, IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE
CHALLENGING TO BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT THE BILL BECAUSE IT
REALLY GOT YOU KNOW AS A
BUSINESS OWNER THAT NO ONE
SITUATION RIGHT? COMPLETELY
UNDERSTAND? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE
YOU SUPPOSED TO DO SO? SO THAT'S
GOOD? THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A BIT
PROBLEMATIC. UM OKAY. AND I DO
THINK THERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK I
THINK IN TERMS OF IF YOU DO HAVE
A PUBLIC RESTROOM AVAILABLE.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME CHALLENGES
THERE IN TERMS OF SAYING THAT AN
EMPLOYEE RESTROOM IS NOW YOU
KNOW, WHEREVER IT'S LOCATED, IS
NOW OPEN TO ESSENTIALLY, YOU
KNOW, USE OF A SUB SEGMENT OF
THE PUBLIC AND, UH, THAT THAT
COULD CREATE SOME CHALLENGES
WITH EMPLOYEES AND YOU KNOW WITH
ETCETERA THEY SO BUT I MEAN, I
SORT OF UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, I
HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT
SORT OF THE AWKWARD POSITION
THAT THE PERSONS INTO SO BUT I'M
JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
BALANCE THIS OUT BECAUSE AS A
BUSINESS OWNER, YOU KNOW YOU
KNOW, YOU DO HAVE TO KEEP YOUR
EMPLOYEES HAPPY. YOU ALSO NEED
TO BE SURE TO FOLLOW THE RULES
AND OFTENTIMES THE YOU KNOW,
ASIDE FROM CHANGING AREAS, BUT
THERE'S OTHER REASONS WHY
PERHAPS EMPLOYEES MAY NOT WANT
THE PUBLIC. TO BE USING THE
RESTROOM THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS
TO SO ALRIGHT. WELL APPRECIATE
APPRECIATE THE WORK ON THE BILL.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SENATOR PAN SENATOR
BATES. THANK YOU. AND I THANK
YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WEBER FOR
INTRODUCING THE OFFEND. I WAS
VERY EXCITED TO BE A CO AUTHOR.
WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
PROBLEMATIC MINUTE THAT'S BEEN
PUT IN IT, PUTTING BUSINESS
OWNERS AT SIGNIFICANT RISK. I'M
NOT CONVINCED BY READING IT THAT
THERE ARE THE PROTECTIONS THERE
THAT THEY'VE SHARED WITH YOU. SO
I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN. TODAY I
WILL REMAIN ON AS A CO AUTHOR.
HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER
TO FIND ANOTHER PATH THAT
SATISFIES WHATEVER THE
MOTIVATION IS FOR THIS
PARTICULAR AMENDMENT IN SOME
OTHER FASHION, SO IT REALLY
DOESN'T PUT OUR BUSINESS OWNERS
THAT SUCH RISK, AND I THINK
ABOUT ESPECIALLY THE SMALL,
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS BECAUSE
MANY TIMES IN A MALL, FOR
EXAMPLE, THE SMALLER STORES
DON'T HAVE. THEY ONLY HAVE THE
EMPLOYEE RESTROOM IN THERE, AND
THE DISTANCE TO A PUBLIC
RESTROOM COULD BE YOU KNOW, IN
ANOTHER FLOOR IN ANOTHER SECTION
OF THE MALL AREA, SO LET'S SEE
IF WE CAN'T WORK ON THAT. BUT I
THINK WE HAD A PREVIOUS
CONVERSATION. I'LL JUST ABSTAIN
TODAY. BUT THEN I'LL BE WORKING
WITH YOU TO SEE WHAT WE MIGHT BE
ABLE TO DO TO FIX IT BECAUSE I
ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO INTRODUCE
THIS. I THINK IT WAS LAST
SESSION, MAYBE PRE PANDEMIC.IN
THE ON IT CAME UP ON YOUR SIDE.
I SAID, GREAT OFF VEHICLE OTHER
SO, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE WORK
AND IT IS A VERY, VERY
SIGNIFICANT AND SERIOUS ISSUE
FOR PEOPLE WITH THESE VERY, VERY
DIFFICULT PHYSICAL CHALLENGES
THAT THEY FACE. SO LET'S HOPE WE
CAN GO FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, NEWMAN. YEAH I GUESS AT
THIS POINT, IT'S JUST LIKE ALIGN
MYSELF WITH THE COMMENTS OF
SENATOR PAN AND SENATOR BAITS
AND YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT
THAT AMENDMENT HAS BEEN APPLIED.
IT SEEMS, UM CHALLENGING. AS AS
WE MOVE FORWARD, I DO APPRECIATE
THE CHAMBERS CONCERNS THERE. SO
I GUESS I'M IN THE SAME
POSITION. WE'RE ALL PROBABLY
ABSTAIN TODAY, WHICH IS
UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE YOU KNOW,
CENTER BASEMENT SAID, YOU KNOW,
WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT TE
INTENT OF THE BILL, AND THAT'S
AN UNFORTUNATE AMENDMENT. AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE IS
THAT CONVERSATION PROCEEDS
COLLEAGUES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS CONCERNS. LET ME JUST.
YOU HAVE MORE, DR PAM. OKAY LET
ME JUST SAY BRIEFLY BECAUSE I'M
HEARING MY STOMACH COLLEAGUES
SAYING THEY'RE GONNA ABSTAIN. SO
I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE BILL
TO ALLOW TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT FIXED. I
KNOW IT'S GOING TO THE HEALTH
COMMITTEE, WHICH I CHAIR SO
WE'LL HAVE FURTHER
CONVERSATIONS, BUT I DO WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROBLEM. YES
YES. LET ME REVISE MY COMMENT.
THANK YOU, SENATOR PAN. I WILL
DO THE SAME. I THINK IT'S A
FAIRLY SIMPLE I MEAN, I'M DON'T
DO LANGUAGE FROM THE DIETS, BUT
I NOTICED THAT THE BILL PROVIDES
THAT EMPLOYEES ARE NOT CIVILLY
LIABLE, SO WE TAKE THE EMPLOYEE
OUT OF THE LIABILITY LOOP. BUT
THEN THE NEXT SENTENCE SAYS
EMPLOYEES SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT
TO DISCHARGE OR OTHER
DISCIPLINARY ACTION. I THINK
THAT'S FINE. YOU PROBABLY JUST
NEED TO HAVE THE PHRASE UNLESS
THE EMPLOYEES ACTION WAS
CONTRARY TO THE EMPLOYERS
EXPRESSED POLICY. WITH RESPECT
TO THIS BILL, OR WHATEVER YOU
WANT TO SAY. I THINK THAT'S AN
EASY FIX, AND I THINK IT COVERS.
IT SHOULD COVER THE CONCERNS OF
ALL. INVOLVED IN THIS. SO IF AN
EMPLOYEE DEVIATES FROM THE
EMPLOYERS EXPRESSED POLICY BURNS
ON THE EMPLOYER TO HAVE AN
EXPRESS POLICYTHEN THE
EMPLOYEES SUBJECT TO DISCIPLINE
. WHATEVER THAT DISCIPLINE IS
EASY TO DO. I PLAN TO SUPPORT
THE BILL TODAY. UH NO OTHER
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS.
SOMEBODY MEMBER WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? I JUST THANK YOU ALL
SO MUCH FOR ALLOW ME TO PRESENT
AND IT'S VERY ROBUST
CONVERSATION. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY
AGREE WITH ALL OF THE CONCERNS
SPECIFIC TO OUR BUSINESSES AND
OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. UM AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING IN
HEALTH COMMITTEE. IF THIS IS
PASSED, FIX IT. THANK YOU, MA'AM
. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE
BILL ASSEMBLY BILL 16 32 HAVE
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR LEYVA. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS. WE REFER THE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. MAYBE 16 32 MOTIONS DO
PASS AND WE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON HEALTH WRATH. BROTH
I MELINDA'S ARCHULETTA BATES.
I'M GOING TO SAY YES, BECAUSE IT
SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE MOVING IT.
BATES I YES, YES, I BECKER.
ALRIGHT ER I DODD EGGMAN EGGMAN.
I HURTADO. BY TITLE. I. JONES.
FLAVOR AMEN. NEWMAN KOBOKO PAN
AND I VOTES WILL HOLD THE ROLL
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK
YOU. YOU HAVE YOUR NEXT ITEM
ITEM NUMBER FOUR ASSEMBLY BILL
16 36 DO THANK YOU. SO I'M HERE
TO PRESENT A B 16 36 A PATIENT
PROTECTED PROTECTION ACT. EXCUSE
ME A BILL. TO MAINTAIN
CONFIDENCE IN THE MEDICAL
PROFESSION BY ENSURING
PHYSICIANS CONVICTED OF SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT WITH A PATIENT
AUTOMATICALLY HAVE THEIR LICENSE
REVOKED AND DENIED FOR
REINSTATEMENT. IN DECEMBER OF
2021. THE LOS ANGELES TIMES
REPORTED INSTANCES WHERE
PHYSICIANS COMMITTED ACTS OF
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT AGAINST THEIR
PATIENTS, AND ALL OF THE
REPORTED INTENSE INSTANCES, THE
PHYSICIAN EITHER HAD THEIR
LICENSE REVOKED OR THE PHYSICIAN
SURRENDERED THEIR LICENSE. THE
PHYSICIANS SUBSEQUENTLY
PETITIONED THE MEDICAL BOARD OF
CALIFORNIA FOR LICENSURE
REINSTATEMENT, AND, ACCORDING TO
THE REPORT, THE NBC REINSTATED
ABOUT 60% OF THOSE PETITIONING
PHYSICIANS. THEY INCLUDED TWO
DOCTORS WHO ABUSED TEENAGE GIRLS
AND ONE WHO BEAT TWO FEMALE
PATIENTS WHEN THEY REPORTED HIM
FOR SEXUALLY EXPLOITING THEM.
APPLICANTS FREQUENTLY REAPPLY
AFTER THE THREE YEAR WAITING
PERIOD, AND THE BOARD FREQUENTLY
REINSTATES THOSE APPLICANTS
CERTIFICATES. A B 30 16 36 DOES
THE FOLLOWING AUTHORIZES DENIAL
OF AN APPLICATION FOR LICENSURE
AS A PHYSICIAN AND SURGEON FROM
ANY APPLICANT WHO WAS SUBJECT TO
FORMAL DISCIPLINE FOR SEXUAL
ABUSE. MISCONDUCT OR RELATIONS
WITH THE PATIENT OR SEXUAL
EXPLOITATION. ALLOWS FOR THE
AUTOMATIC REVOCATION OF A
LICENSE IF THE APPLICATION WOULD
HAVE BEEN DENIED FOR ANY OF THE
REASONS JUST LISTED. REQUIRES
AUTOMATIC REVOCATION OF A
LICENSE OF ANY PHYSICIAN OR
SURGEON WHO HAS BEEN CONVICTED
IN ANOTHER STATE OF A CRIME THAT
WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A SEX
OFFENDER REGISTRATION IN
CALIFORNIA. AND ELIMINATES THE
ABILITY OF A PERSON WHOSE
LICENSE WAS REVOKED BEFORE 2005.
FOLLOWING REGISTRATION AS A SEX
OFFENDER TO PETITION A SUPERIOR
COURT TO HAVE THEIR LICENSE
REINSTATED. THE PATIENT DOCTOR
RELATIONSHIP IS BASED ON TRUST.
THIS BILL MAKES IT CLEAR THAT
PHYSICIANS WHO HAVE COMMITTED
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WITH THEIR
PATIENT REGARDLESS OF WHEN IT
OCCURRED, ARE NOT FIT TO
PRACTICE. A B 16 36 IS SUPPORTED
BY THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION. AND SUPPORTED BY
ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE
AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS,
CALIFORNIA AMERICAN COLLEGE OF
OBSTETRICIANS AND GYNECOLOGISTS
DISTRICT NINE CALIFORNIA ACADEMY
OF FAMILY PHYSICIANS,
CALIFORNIA. AND THE CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION OF PSYCHIATRY
, CONSUMER PROTECTION POLICY
CENTER TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A
B 16 36. I HAVE DENNIS CUEVAS
AND ADVOCATE FOR THE CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION. SIR. PLEASE
PROCEED. YOU KNOW THE THREE
MINUTE RULE. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS DENNIS CUEVAS
ROMERO WITH THE CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION SPONSORS OF
THE BILL. WE APPRECIATE THE
STAFF THOROUGH ANALYSIS ON THE
BILL. WE THINK THIS IS A SIMPLE
BILL THAT LIKE DR WEBBER SAID.
THE PHYSICIAN PATIENT
RELATIONSHIP IS CRUCIAL, AND
PATIENTS OFTEN HAVE, UH, TRUST
AND PHYSICIANS AND WE, AS A
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION BELIEVES
STRONGLY THAT PHYSICIANS THAT
BREACH THIS CONFIDENCE SHOULD NO
LONGER PRACTICE AND WE ASK FOR
YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, SIR. LET'S NOW HEAR FROM
ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
AND HEARING ROOM NAME,
AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON THE
MEASURE, PLEASE. ERIN BONE WITH
THE MEDICAL BOARD OF CALIFORNIA
WITH THE SUPPORT IF AMENDED
POSITION ON THE BILL AND HAPPY
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT
THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IN THE
HEARING ROOM. LET'S NOW MOVE TO
WITNESSES WAITING TEST FIVE
YEARS TELECONFERENCE SERVICE
MODERATOR. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT ANY SUCH INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
ASSEMBLY BILL 16 36, WE WILL
BEGIN WITH THEM. THANK YOU. YOU
WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A
PIECE IN 36. HE'S PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME. WE HAVE ONE COMMENT
FROM LINE 24 BLASTS PLANES FROM
THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF G Y N
DISTRICT NINE SUPPORT. THANK YOU
NEXT, PLEASE. I HAVE NO FURTHER
COMMENT. THANK YOU. LET'S NOW
FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS IN HERE
FROM ANY OPPOSITION WITNESSES.
FIRST OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN
THE HEARING ROOM. SAYING NONE
LET'S MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE
MODERATOR. ONCE AGAIN IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY SUCH
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY BILL
16. 36 WE WILL CONTINUE WITH
THEM. THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO A B 16 36
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. I
HAVE NO COMMENT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MADAM FOR BRINGING
THE MATTER BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES
IN THE HEARING ROOM FOR
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS.
QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR CONCERNS.
I SEE SENATOR EGGMAN AND THEN
SENATOR PAN SENATOR EDMUND THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, MR CHAIR AND NICE
TO SEE YOU, DR. WEBBER. UM, JUST
ONE QUESTION. SHOULD THIS EXTEND
BEYOND JUST PATIENTS. I
UNDERSTAND THE SANCTITY THAT
TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE PATIENT.
DOCTOR PHYSICIAN RELATIONSHIP.
BUT WHAT ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO HS
BEEN CONVICTED OF OTHER SEX
CRIMES WITH OTHERS? NOT
SPECIFICALLY THEIR PATIENTS? WHY
NOT APPLY IT FURTHER OR IS THERE
A REASON FOR THAT? I THINK
THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, AND
THIS BILL WAS SPECIFICALLY
ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS THAT
WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE L A
TIMES. I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO
START LOOKING AT, UM YOU KNOW
THOSE KIND OF ACTS OUTSIDE OF
THE UM, THAT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE
AND WE ALSO HAVE TO SEE WHAT DO
WE DO FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN THOSE
SITUATIONS, SO FOR OTHER PEOPLE
WHO ARE COMMITTED OF SEXUAL
ASSAULT, ARE THEY ABLE TO GO
BACK TO THEIR JOBS? WHATEVER AND
WHAT PROFESSION THAT THAT VERY
WELL MAY BE. AS A PHYSICIAN, YOU
KNOW WHEN SOME, ESPECIALLY IN MY
PRACTICE AS AN RPG WENT WITH
SOMEONE COMES TO ME AND THEY ARE
BEING EXAMINED THAT IS PROVIDING
ME WITH THE HIGHEST TRUST.
POSSIBLE. AND WHEN YOU BREAK
THAT UM. IT TO ME. IT GOES ABOVE
AND BEYOND. JUST UM JUST YOU
KNOW THE WHOLE THE HORRIFIC ACT
OF SEXUAL ASSAULT TO DO THAT, TO
SOMEONE WHO HAS PLACED THAT
AMOUNT OF TRUST AND COMPLETELY
VULNERABLE TO YOU. UM IS IT THAT
PERSON DOES NOT NEED TO BE IN
THAT POSITION EVER AGAIN, IN MY
OPINION IN CALIFORNIA? UM
SENATOR PEN, FOLLOWED BY SENATOR
BECKER. THANK YOU AGAIN, DR
WEBBER, AND I AGREE WITH WHAT
YOU JUST SAID IN TERMS OF WHILE
CERTAINLY. YOU KNOW, UM, SEXUAL
SORT THAT THESE THINGS ARE VERY
SERIOUS AND SHOULD CERTAINLY BE
CONSIDERATION THAT THE REASON
YOU HAVE LICENSES TO TAKE CARE
OF PATIENTS, AND THAT LICENSE
GIVES A PHYSICIAN OR DEPENDING
ON WHICH OTHER HEALTH
PROFESSIONS. A OH, YOU GET THE
STICK A KNIFE IN SOMEBODY RIGHT
TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. THAT'S WHY
SURGEON DOES RIGHT. SO THAT SO
THERE'S SOMETHING PARTICULARLY
SPECIAL ABOUT THE FACT THAT THAT
LICENSE IS ACTUALLY A PRIVILEGE
FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO. DO THINGS
TO OTHER PEOPLE. TO HELP THEM TO
SAVE THEIR LIFE TO IMPROVE THEIR
LIVES, BUT WOULD BUT FOR ANYONE
ELSE WOULD, THEREFORE, SO I DO
THINK THAT'S PARTICULARLY, I
GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR
YOU, THOUGH, IS THAT CERTAINLY,
PHYSICIANS HAVE THAT. BUT ONE
CAN ARGUE, FOR EXAMPLE, MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS THEY
PATIENT COMES TO THEM. THEY MADE
PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE STATE. I
HAVE TO MENTION I HAVE A BILL
WITH THE BORDERS THAT SPONSORED
BY THE BOARD PSYCHOLOGY TO TRY
TO ADDRESS THAT. SO IS THERE A
REASON THIS IS ONLY ABOUT
PHYSICIANS, AND THERE'S OTHER
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS WHO MAY BE
IN A SIMILAR SITUATION. WHERE OF
COURSE, WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING,
TRUSTING THEM TO TAKE CARE OF
THEM. AND ARE VULNERABLE AND
THAT DECISION ALSO APPLY TO NO,
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND
LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS VERY
SPECIFIC TO WHAT WAS WRITTEN UP
IN THE L A TIMES SPECIFICALLY
FOR THOSE WHO, UM, HAVE THE
PHYSICIAN SLASH CERTAIN LICENSE.
OF COURSE, THERE ARE OTHER
SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE, LIKE
PH. D S THAT ARE SEEING PATIENTS
AND ARE ALSO IN A VERY
VULNERABLE POSITION AND THAT
NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED AS WELL.
OKAY WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. I
THINK, UM WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE
LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER
HEALTH PROFESSIONS AS WELL WHERE
WE HAVE SIMILAR SITUATION. BUT
REALIZING AT THIS POINT TIME,
PROBABLY KEEP THE BILL FOCUSED,
BUT CERTAINLY SUPPORT YOUR BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
PAN SENATOR BECKER. THANK YOU.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
BECAUSE THE WHAT PART? THE BILL
SAYS IT WOULD AUTHORIZE THE
BOARD TO DENY AND THEN OTHER
SEEMS LIKE IT'S SORT OF
MANDATORY. IS THIS A MANDATORY
LIFETIME BAN? YES. YES IF YOU'VE
DONE TIS, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT
BE ABLE TO HAVE YOUR LICENSE
REINSTATED HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
OR IF YOU DID IT TO A PATIENT
AND YOU WERE IN ANOTHER STATE.
YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET A
LICENSE TO PRACTICE HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. INSERT JUST AGAIN
FROM MY OWN KNOWLEDGE, AND THAT
IS THEIR DEFINITION, SAYS SEXUAL
ASSAULT, OBVIOUSLY VERY CLEAR,
SAYS MIXED RELATIONS. IT'S CLEAR
MISCONDUCT. IS THERE SET A SET
DEFINITION OF MISCONDUCT. EAR'S
THAT SO THIS IS FOR SOMEONE WHO
HAS BEEN LEGALLY CONVICTED OF
SEXUAL ASSAULT, UM, LEGALLY
CONVICTED, SO IT'S NOT THE
MEDICAL BOARD DETERMINING THIS.
THIS IS AN ACTUAL CONVICTION
THAT HAS HAPPENED, NOT SOMEONE
WHO'S JUST ACCUSED BUT ACTUALLY
CONVICTED. OKAY, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SENATOR. LIVE. OH
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. DR. WEBBER
IS ONCE THEY THANK YOU. I THINK
IT'S A FANTASTIC BILL AND JUST
TO BUILD A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT
SENATOR, EGGMAN SAID. I THINK
THERE ARE OTHER KINDS OF DOCTORS
THAT PEOPLE PLACE THEIR TRUST IN
A PSYCHOLOGIST OR COUNSELOR WHO
MAY OR MAY NOT BE A DOCTOR. AND
THESE FOLKS MIGHT BE SEEING THEM
AT THEIR VERY MOST VULNERABLE
TIME IN THEIR LIFE. AND IF THEY
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE, THESE
FOLKS THEIR PATIENTS, I TOO
THINK THEY SHOULD LOSE THEIR
LICENSE. I KNOW THIS ISN'T THAT
BILL, MAYBE WE CAN GET THIS ONE
PAST AND SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR
AND DO THAT ONE NEXT YEAR, BUT
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD. I THINK IT'S LONG
OVERDUE. THANK YOU, UM, SENATOR
TORNADO. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I
JUST WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE
THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. BUT THIS
IS A GREAT START. I KNOW THAT
YOU REFERRED TO THE ALLEY TIMES
ARTICLE, UM AS AS YOUR REASON
FOR MOVING THIS BILL FORWARD,
AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT MANY OF
THOSE CASES THAT THE L A TIMES
ARTICLE REFERS TO R AND MY
SENATE-DISTRICT. AND SO I REALLY
APPRECIATE HAVING A LEADER LIKE
YOURSELF A PARTNERING UP AND
SOLVING THE PROBLEMS, NOT JUST
UH OF MY REGION, BUT MAKING IT
YOU KNOW, GO BEYOND. SO THANK
YOU FOR THAT AND HAPPY TO BE A
CO AUTHOR OF THIS BUILDING AND
MOVING AT THE MOVE ABILITY
ADEQUATE TIME. THANK YOU. BACK
TO EVERY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THE BILL FORWARD. I LOOK FORWARD
TO WORKING WITH YOU. AS WE MOVE
THROUGH THIS YEAR, NOT ONLY ON
THIS BILL, BUT ON OTHER BILLS
RELATED TO HEALTHCARE
PROFESSIONS, WHETHER IT'S NURSES
AND NURSING WHO FIND THEMSELVES
IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS. OR OTHER
HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS AND
INCLUDING TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT
MY COLLEAGUE, SENATOR PAN
REFERENCED AS THOSE WHO ARE NOT
QUITE PATIENTS BUT HAVE A
RELATIONSHIP WITH A PHYSICIAN,
PERHAPS THROUGH THE PHYSICIAN'S
OFFICE OR PRACTICE, OR MAYBE
NOT. AND THE SAME WITH NURSES
AND OTHER HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS.
APPRECIATE YOUR EXPERTISE. AND
WITH THAT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? I JUST RESPECTFULLY ASKED
FOR AN I VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MA'AM. DO WE HAVE A MOTION
ON THE BILL? YOU HAD IT TOUGH,
THOUGH. I DIDN'T HEAR IT.
APOLOGIZE SENATOR THAILAND
EMOTION IS DO PASS. WE REFER THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAYBE 16
36 MOTIONS DO PASS, AND WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. ROTH MELINDA'S
ARCHULETTA BATES. BECKER. BATES
BATES, I BECKER BECKER. I DODD
EGGMAN. EDMUND. I HEARD TATO
TATO, I JONES JONES. I LEYVA
LATER. I MEN, MEN I NEWMAN KOBO
, PAM AND I VOTES WILL HOLD THE
ROLL OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.
REMEMBER MEDINA. ITEM NUMBER 13
ASSEMBLY BILL 23 41. PLEASE
PROCEED WHEN READY. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I AM
PLEASED TO PRESENT A B 23 41 THE
FEDERAL AID ACCESS FOR ALL ACT,
WHICH CLOSES A LOOPHOLE AND
ALLOWS ALL CALIFORNIA STUDENTS
TO ACCESS THEIR FEDERAL
FINANCIAL AID STUDENT ACCESS TO
FEDERAL FINANCIAL AID AND
PROGRAMS ARE CRITICAL FOR
STUDENTS TO ACHIEVE THEIR
EDUCATIONAL GOALS. WELL
CALIFORNIA HAS A CLEAR PATH FOR
MANY IRA EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS
TO MEET THE STATE AUTHORIZATION
REQUIREMENTS AND OFFER FEDERAL
AID TO THEIR STUDENTS. THE
BUREAU OF PRIVATE POST EDUCATION
EXCLUDES PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES
ESTABLISHED IN ANOTHER STATE.
THE LACK OF OTHER IZATION BY THE
BUREAU THUS PREVENT STUDENTS AT
INSTITUTIONS SUCH AS ARIZONA
STATE, WHICH HAS A PHYSICAL
PRESENCE IN CALIFORNIA. FROM
ACCESSING MUCH NEEDED FEDERAL
FINANCIAL AID. A B 23 41 WILL
RECTIFY THIS LOOPHOLE AND STATE
POLICY AND WOULD ALLOW
CALIFORNIA STUDENTS WHO ATTEND
ANY PUBLIC INSTITUTION,
CALIFORNIA. TO ACCESS THEIR
FEDERAL FINANCIAL AID.
SPECIFICALLY A B 23 41 ALLOWS A
PUBLIC INSTITUTION OF HIGHER
EDUCATION. ESTABLISHED BY
ANOTHER STATE THAT HAS A
PHYSICAL PRESENCE IN CALIFORNIA
TO APPLY TO THE BUREAU FOR
APPROVAL TO OPERATE IN
CALIFORNIA. AS A RESULT, THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA WILL HAVE
THE SAME ABILITY TO OVERSEE THE
INSTITUTION AS IT DOES WITH
REGARDS TO PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS
. AS SUCH, THE PUBLIC
INSTITUTION WILL BE ABLE TO MEET
THE REQUIREMENTS. OF BEING
AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. THE BILL WILL NOT
CHANGE THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR
STATE FINANCIAL AID OR CAL
GRANT. THE BILL WILL THEREFORE
CREATE PARODY AND EXPAND ACCESS
TO RESOURCES TO ALL CALIFORNIA
STUDENTS, REGARDLESS OF
INSTITUTION THEY ATTEND. HERE TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORTED THE BILL
IS MEGAN SUPERS ON BEHALF OF
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY.
AFTERNOON MISS SUPERS. YOU KNOW
THE RULES. THREE MINUTES, PLEASE
PROCEED. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
MEMBERS. MEGAN SUPERS ON BEHALF
OF ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY.
WE'RE PROUD TO BE WORKING WITH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MEDINA ON THIS
BILL. AND THANK YOU, MR CHAIR IN
YOUR COMMITTEE STAFF FOR YOUR
WORK ON THIS ISSUE PREVIOUSLY
AND UP THROUGH TODAY, AS THE
AUTHOR STATED, UM THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA HAS A LOT OF PATHWAYS
FOR OTHER INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER
EDUCATION, BUT FOR A PUBLIC
INSTITUTION FROM OUT OF STATE
THAT HAS A PHYSICAL PRESENCE
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. WE HAVEN'T
CONTEMPLATED THAT HERE IN
STATUTE YET. ARIZONA STATE
UNIVERSITY HAS A LONG HISTORY
WITH CALIFORNIANS THEY HAVE
ABOUT 18,000. RESIDENTS OF
CALIFORNIA THAT ARE PURSUING
THEIR DEGREE AT ARIZONA STATE
RIGHT NOW IN ABOUT 52,000 ALUMNI
, INCLUDING MYSELF. UM AND SO WE
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BILL MOVE
FORWARD. WE THINK THE DIRECTION
THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS WORKED
WITH US ON IS A GOOD ONE. IT
WILL ALLOW A PUBLIC INSTITUTION
TO APPLY. TO THE BUREAU FOR
APPROVAL TO OPERATE AND WITH
THAT WILL COME NOT ONLY THE
STATE AUTHORIZATION THAT THE
ASSIGN MEMBER SPOKE TO, BUT ALSO
ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT THAT THE
STATE CAN APPLY. UM TO A S U OR
OTHER PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS LIKE
THEM. SO WE THINK THIS WILL
INCENTIVIZE MORE CALIFORNIANS TO
PURSUE PUBLIC EDUCATION AND
TODAY IN THE STATE, AND FOR
THOSE REASONS WE ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MA'AM. NOW, LET'S HEAR FROM ANY
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT WITNESSES IN
THE HEARING ROOM. SEEING NONE.
LET'S MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING
TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MODERATOR
. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY
SUCH INDIVIDUALS WAITING,
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF ASSEMBLY
BILL 23 41. WE WILL BEGIN WITH
THEM. THANK YOU. IF YOU WISH
BEGINS SUPPORT US 80 23-14 110
AT THE TIME. WE CURRENTLY HAVE
NO COMMENT. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY
WE HAVE WE DO HAVE ONE IN FEWER.
ONE MOMENT. THANK YOU.
IT'LL BE JUST ONE MOMENT FOR
THIS ONE.
ARE COMING COMES FROM LINE 33
LINE. 33, PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS DAVID
LOPEZ. AND IN ADDITION TO THE
COMMENTS MADE BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MEDINA AND THE
PERSON FROM HIS YOU MAKING
NUMBERS LET'S MAKE THE COMMENT.
I DID SUBMIT A LETTER TO THE
LEGISLATIVE PORTAL, WHICH WAS
VERY EFFICIENT. I APPRECIATE
THAT. BUT I'M MAKING IT COMMENTS
AS THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE
NATIONAL HISPANIC UNIVERSITY.
PROFESSOR OF MEREDITH HEALTH,
STATE UNIVERSITY, FRESNO AND
MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF
EDUCATION. I HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO GO DOWN AND SAYS
THAT HE S USE NEW CAMPUS IS
CALIFORNIA CENTER IN LOS ANGELES
. I MADE A PERSONAL VISIT
BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS INTERESTED IN
HOW PIRATE OCCASSION IS TO BE
IMAGINING ITSELF. AND WHAT I
WITNESSED IN LOS ANGELES WAS
THAT HIS IS GOOD, PERSONALIZING
AND INDIVIDUALIZING ONLINE
PERSONAL EDUCATION, WHICH IS
GREAT. THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST
EXPECTATIONS FOR THEIR STUDENTS.
AND THE FACULTY AND THOSE THINGS
EXPECTATIONS. BUT THEY ALSO HAVE
A PROCESS AND SPEAKERS AND WELL
DEVELOPED ECOSYSTEM. REPLACE
HELP STUDENTS GRIEF, THOSE
EXPECTATIONS AND, OF COURSE, THE
ROLE MODELS TO HELP THEM ALONG
IN THAT PROCESS. SO BASED ON MY
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND
EXPERTISE AS STRONG SUPPORT WHAT
THE WORDS THE WORK THAT'S BEING
DONE IN LOS ANGELES AT LOCAL AND
URGE YOU AS MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT A B 23 41.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU,
SIR. NEXT, PLEASE. THANK YOU. I
HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT. THANK
YOU. LET'S FOLLOW THE SAME
PROCESS AND HEAR FROM ANY
OPPOSITION WITNESSES, WITNESSES
HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE.
SEEING NONE. LET'S NOW MOVE TO
WITNESSES WAIT AND TEST FIVE
YEARS, THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE MODERATOR ONCE AGAIN IF
YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY SUCH
INDIVIDUALS. WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY BILL
23 41. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH
THEM. THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO A B 23 41
PRESS 10 AT THE TIME. I HAVE NO
COMMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MA'AM. LET'S TAKE THE MATTER
BACK TO BRING THE MATTER BACK TO
MY COLLEAGUES IN THE HEARING
ROOM COLLEAGUES ANY QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? TO MOVE
THE BILL. O OKAY. CENTER LABOR.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM SIMILAR
MEMBER. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS BILL
BECAUSE, AS INTRODUCED, I WAS
TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THE BILL. SO
I THINK THE WAY YOU HAVE
RESTRUCTURED THE BILL TO MAKE IT
LIKE A PRIVATE UNIVERSITY, AND
THAT IT DOES HAVE TO BE APPROVED
BY THE B P P E, I THINK IS A
MUCH BETTER WAY THAN THE BILL
ORIGINALLY STARTED. SO THANK
YOU. I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT
TODAY. THANKS. GENERAL AVIONICS,
SENATOR BECKER. YEAH JUST WAS
GOING TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE
THE BILL AND APPRECIATE THE
INNOVATIVE WORK THAT S U DOES
AND I'LL MOVE TO BUILD
APPROPRIATE TIME. HEY BILL HAS
BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR BECK OR
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR
CONCERNS COLLEAGUES SEEING NONE.
SO WHENEVER MEDINA WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE, RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU, SIR.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON ASSEMBLY
BILL 23 41 BY SENATOR BECKER.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS. WE REFER
THE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAYBE
23-14. ONE MOTION IS DO PASS,
AND WE REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
EDUCATION. ROTH MELINDA'S
ARCHULETTA BATES BATES, I BECKER
I DODD EGGMAN. POTATO POTATO. I
JONES JONES, I LABOR THURMOND.
MOMENT I NEWMAN KOBO, I PAN AND
I 10 VOTES WILL HOLD THE ROLE
PERHAPS, AND MEMBERS. THANK YOU,
SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY? SOMEBODY
REMEMBER LOW ITEM NUMBER ONE. A
B 646. PLEASE PROCEED WHEN
READY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SENATOR AND COLLEAGUES PROUD TO
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILLS. 6 46,
WHICH HAS RECEIVED BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT IT AS WELL AS TO
AUTHORSHIP FROM THIS CHAIR TO
HELP REMOVE EMPLOYMENT BEARS FOR
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE DONE THEIR
TIME. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR I
VOTE AND WITH ME TODAY IS FORMER
ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL LOCKYER TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT. RETURN,
GENERAL, PLEASE PROCEED. HELLO
THIS IS STILL LOCKED HERE.
FORMER SENATOR AND PROBABLY
OLDEST DAD IN CALIFORNIA WITH 26
YEAR OLDS. IN DISNEYLAND, SO
HENCE THE BACKGROUND NOISE. I
APOLOGIZE. I THOUGHT I WOULD
JUST TELL YOU ABOUT A CORPORATE
CLIENT. WHO WAS CONVICTED OF
STATUTORY RAPE. WELL HE WAS A C
P A HE SURRENDERED HIS LICENSE.
HE HAS NO INTEREST IN EVER BEING
A CPA AGAIN. SUBSEQUENT TO
SERVING JAIL TIME. IS THE
SUPERIOR COURT. AH! IT EXPUNGED
CONVICTION. SO AS THE LEGAL AND
TECHNICAL MATTER, HE THERE IS NO
CONVICTION FOR THE CRIME. BUT IT
STILL APPEARS ON THE WEBSITE. OF
THE BOARD OF ACCOUNTANCY. BY WE
ASKED IF THEY COULD REMOVE IT,
THEY SAID THEY NEEDED STATUTORY
AUTHORITY TO DO THAT, AND THE
BILL PROVIDES THAT DIRECTION.
WE'RE TRYING TO REHABILITATE TO
KEEP THE IN THE LABOR FORCE. UH
THE CURRENT IS NOT RECOGNIZED,
RECORDED MEDICATION. BASICALLY
ERASES THE OFFENSE FROM PUBLIC
VIEW. BUT KEEP IT IN. THESE
WEBSITES DOCUMENTS MAKES. I
THINK THOSE SENSE OF FAIRNESS
AND STIGMA HE HAS NO INTENTION
OF RETURNING TO PRACTICE AND I
HOPE THE COMMITTEE WILL MOVE THE
BILL FORWARD. THANKS SO MUCH FOR
THE CHANCE TO SAY HELLO. THANK
YOU, SIR. LET'S NOW TURN TO ANY
OTHER SUPPORT WITNESSES AND THE
HEARING ROOM. PLEASE STEP
FORWARD NAME, AFFILIATION AND
POSITION ON THE BILL, PLEASE.
MANASQUAN STU, CALIFORNIA AND
JEFFERSON IS THE 700,000 MEMBERS
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IN THE
HEARING ROOM, SEEING NONE, LET'S
TURN TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE. MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PROMPT ANY SUCH
INDIVIDUALS, WEIGHT AND TESTIFY
AND SUPPORTIVE ASSEMBLY BILL
646. WE WILL BEGIN WITH THEM.
THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF A B 64 60 PRESS 10
AT THIS TIME. WE'LL START WITH
LINE 41 AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON,
CHAIR MEMBERS MIGHT SEND THAT
CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE BOARD AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
47. HI WE'RE BEING THE HOME FROM
THE BOARD OF BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES
BOARD HAS TO SUPPORT COMMENDED
POSITION ON THIS SELF, AND IT
PUTS THE INTENT OF THE BILL BUT
HAS REQUESTED THROUGH A LIKE THE
THERAPY QUESTIONS. UM I HAVE
REQUESTED AMENDMENTS OUTLINED IN
THE LETTER THAT WE SENT THANKS.
THANK YOU. JUST A REMOTE.
FURTHER COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
JUST A REMINDER TO THOSE ON THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. IF YOU WERE
ATTEMPTING TO USE THE
SPEAKERPHONE BE ADVISED, YOU
WILL. AS YOU'RE SPEAKING, WE
WILL PROBABLY MISSED ABOUT 30 TO
40% OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO
I'D SUGGEST THAT YOU NOT USE THE
SPEAKERPHONE WHEN YOU'RE
PRESENTING. VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE. SO WITH
THAT, LET'S FOLLOW THE SAME
PROCESS AND HEAR FROM ANY
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. FIRST
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN THE
HEARING ROOM ANY OPPOSITION
WITNESSES? SEEING NONE AND NOW
TURNED TO THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE IN ANY OPPOSITION
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY
THEIR MODERATOR ONCE AGAIN, IF
YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY SUCH
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY BILL
646. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THEM.
THINK YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION FORCES PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME. I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT
. YOU ONE MOMENT FOR THAT
COMMENT. COMMENTS FROM LINE 29,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
BARRA ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
BOARD OF ACCOUNTANTS. OPPOSED
UNLESS AMENDED FOR THE REASONS
IN OUR LETTER INTO THE OPPOSITE,
THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT,
PLEASE. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO
FURTHER COMMENT. THANK YOU.
COLLEAGUES LET'S BRING THE
MATTER BACK NOW TO MY COLLEAGUES
IN THE HEARING ROOM. FOR ANY
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS
. LET ME TAKE SOME NAMES. DOCTOR
PEN. ANYONE ELSE? LET ME ASK ONE
QUESTION FIRST DOCTOR PEN, SO WE
WERE THIS EXPUNGEMENT RELATES TO
A POSTING ON A WEBSITE. NOTHING
IN YOUR BILL REQUIRES THE BOARD
TO PURGE ITS RECORDS OF THE
UNDERLYING CASE THAT RESULTED IN
THE POSTING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU.
SENATOR PAN. THANK YOU. AND
ACTUALLY, SO I GUESS WHAT? I
WANT SOME CLARIFICATION AS TO
EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE REMOVING SO
BECAUSE THE ACT OF LOSING YOUR
LICENSE IS SEPARATE FROM LET'S
SAY THE CONVICTION IN THIS CASE
I UNDERSTAND IS STATUTORY RAPE
AS I HEARD IT CORRECTLY, RIGHT?
UM AND INTERESTING ENOUGH. WE
JUST HEARD A BILL THAT SAID THAT
IF A LICENSEE OF THE MEDICAL
BOARD OF CALIFORNIA COMMITTED
SEXUAL ASSAULT, ETCETERA THEY
WOULD LOSE THEIR LICENSE SO UM.
SO OKAY, SO NOW WE HAVE LET'S
SAY A PHYSICIAN WHO COMMITS
SEXUAL IT GETS A LICENSE
REMOVED. AND THEY GET THAT
EXPUNGED. DOES THE FACT THAT
THEY'VE AND YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT
EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT RE APPLYING
FOR LICENSE. DOES THAT MEAN SO?
SO THAT THAT MEANS THAT IF I
LOOK UP THIS POSITION ON THE
MEDICAL BOARD WEBSITE THAT THEY
SIMPLY DISAPPEAR, DO THEY THEY
SHOW THAT THEY LOST THE LICENSE
IN SUCH AS A JADE UH, WHAT? WHAT
EXACTLY ARE WE REMOVING FROM THE
WEBSITE? SO THIS PERSON WHO WAS
A CPA? I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TO
ADMIT I HAVE HAVEN'T CHECKED THE
ACCOUNTANCY WEBSITE. IF YOU LOST
YOUR LICENSE DOES THAT THE FACT
THAT YOU LOST YOUR LICENSE
DISAPPEAR? OR IS IT JUST THE
REFERENCE TO THE CONVICTION THAT
DISAPPEARS, BUT THE LOSS OF THE
LICENSE ACTUALLY STILL APPEARS.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY
WHAT EXACTLY DISAPPEARS. FROM
PUBLIC VIEW. ESSENTIALLY I MEAN
, I UNDERSTAND. CERTAINLY, THE
BOARD ITSELF WILL STILL MAINTAIN
RECORDS, ETCETERA. BUT WHAT DOES
DISAPPEAR FROM PUBLIC VIEW? THE
RECORD ITSELF VICKS BUNCH THAT
THE LEGISLATIVE INTENDED TO HELP
ENSURE THAT REMOVE THE BARRIERS
THAT EXISTS SO THE LICENSED SO
THE LAST OF THE LICENSE REMAINS
REMAINS ON ON THE WEBSITE, SO
AND SO HAD A LICENSE AND A LOT
IN THE IN THE BOARD ACTED TO
REMOVE THEIR LICENSE THAT STILL
STAYS. YES THE INDIVIDUAL CAN
STILL CALL THE BOARD TO INQUIRE
ABOUT ABOUT GREATER HISTORICAL
CONTEXT BUT SPECIFICALLY, LITTLE
INTENSE, SPECIFICALLY HELPS TO
ADDRESS THE. TIME THAT THE
INDIVIDUAL SERVED WITH RESPECT
TO EXPUNGEMENT, OF COURSE HAVE
GONE IN THAT DIRECTION, DOCTOR
PENTON, AS YOU WILL KNOW, TO
HELP ENSURE THAT WE MOVE AS MANY
BEERS AS POSSIBLE. OKAY SO I'M
NOT SURE I'M GETTING STRAIGHT IN
JUST ONE CLICK. SO THE ENTERED
THIS BILL, YOU KNOW? THE BOARD
CAN STILL LEAVE THE FACT THAT
THE LICENSE HAS BEEN WHATEVER
LICENSED RESULTS RIGHT
SUSPENSION, PROBATION. WHATEVER
ACTION THEY DECIDED TO TAKE.
WOULD STILL REMAIN IN PUBLIC
RECORD IN PUBLIC VIEW JUST THAT
THE CAUSE OF THAT WHICH IS THE
CONVICTION. THAT HAS NOW BEEN
EXPUNGED WOULD NO LONGER BE
NOTED. IS THAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
, LIKE DOES THE FACT THAT YOU
LOST YOUR LICENSE, WHICH IS A
SEPARATE DECISION, THEN YOUR
CONVICTION. WOULD STILL REMAIN
OR NOT. FOR IN PUBLIC VIEW, SO I
GET IT THAT THE BOARD ITSELF
WILL STILL PRIME MAINTAINED
RECORDS IN THEIR FILES, WHATEVER
ELSE BUT UM I AM CONCERNED THAT
I MEAN, THIS IS SORT OF
IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT YOU
KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S SEEKING
SERVICES OR IF IT'S A HEALTH
PROFESSIONAL. YOU KNOW YOUR
PATIENT TO KNOW THAT THE PERSON
HAS ACTUALLY AND WE'VE ACTUALLY
PASSED BILLS OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE TO ASK FOR GREATER
TRANSPARENCY ABOUT THAT. THAT
THAT INFORMATION IS ACTUALLY
AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE THAT
THIS PERSON DOESN'T HAVE A
LICENSE, AND THEY LOST THEIR
LICENSE ON THIS, SUCH AND SUCH A
DATE. IS THAT STILL GOING TO BE
UP THERE? IS GOING TO BE
REMOVED. SO THE LICENSE STATUS
WILL ALSO BE REMOVED. NOT JUST
SIMPLY THE CONVITION. WELL,
DOCTOR PAN. LET ME JUST CLARIFY.
YOU'RE ASKING TWO QUESTIONS. DO
YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE LICENSEOR
YOU'RE NOT ACTIVELY LICENSED.
QUESTION ONE QUESTION TWO. HAS
YOUR LICENSE IS NOT ACTIVE
BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REVOKED. OR
NOT. SO ARE YOU ASKING THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER IS THE WEBSITE
GOING TO REFLECT WHETHER
SOMEONE'S ACTIVELY LICENSED OR
NOT? WELL SO THAT THE WEBSITE
SHOWS IS THAT YOU CAN LOOK UP
SOMEONE SO OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE HAS
NOT BEEN LICENSED. THEY NEVER
SHOW UP BECAUSE THEY NEVER
APPLIED FOR A LICENSE, SOMEONE
WHO IS LICENSED AND THEN LOST
THEIR LICENSE OR HAD SOME
CONSEQUENCES THAT THAT DOES SHOW
UP. SO YOU CAN LOOK UP AND FIND
OUT BECAUSE ITSELF, SOMEONE WHO
LOST HER LICENSE DOESN'T SIMPLY
DISAPPEAR FROM THE WEBSITE. IT
SHOWED THAT THEY HAD THE LICENSE
AND THEN SHOWS THAT LOST THEIR
LICENSE. RIGHT AND THEN
SOMETIMES THEY HAVE SOME LINKS
AND SO FORTH TO THE DOCUMENTS.
SO THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT DO THEY
SIMPLY DISAPPEAR? EVEN THOUGH
THEY WERE LICENSED AND DO WE
LOSE FROM THE PUBLIC RECORD ARE
NOT KIND OF BOARDS RECORDS BUT
TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE PUBLIC
KNOWS THAT SOMEONE WHO WAS
PREVIOUSLY ACTIVELY LICENSED HAS
NOW LOST A LICENSES THAT
DISAPPEAR OR NOT, OR IS IT
SIMPLY JUST THE RATIONALE OF THE
REASON WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD IN A
CONVICTION THAT WAS EXPUNGED. MR
CHAIR. IF I'M IF I MIGHT.
DID YOU GET AN ANSWER THE
QUESTION DR. BANNER ARE YOU
WAITING FOR ME TO ANSWER? JUST
ADMIT MY RESPONSE TO MR CHAIR.
THE CHAIR. THANK YOU
SPECIFICALLY IF THEY ARE NOT
LICENSED, IT WOULD BE REMOVED.
SO THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN
BETWEEN THE TWO. SO AS YOU HEARD%
FROM THE TESTIMONY FROM OUR
ATTORNEY GENERAL FROM OUR
ATTORNEY GENERAL, IF YOU ARE NOT
LICENSED, IT WILL BE REMOVED
INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY, IF YOU
WERE NEVER LICENSED, THEN YOU
WOULD NEVER SHOW UP ON THE
WEBSITE, SO THAT DOESN'T MAKE
SENSE. LONGER LICENSED. OKAY
THAT MEANS YOU WERE ACTIVELY
LIKE OKAY, SO JUST BY THE WAY, I
APPRECIATE THE VACUUM AND I
DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH
MORE TIME. I GUESS I AM
CONCERNED BECAUSE THE LICENSING
DECISION TO LICENSE OR NOT THE
LICENSE AND THE CONSEQUENCES,
YOU KNOW TO YOUR LICENSE. IS A
SEPARATE ACT FROM THE ACTUAL
CONVICTION, AND, UM AH, AND I'M
AFRAID AND I AM CONCERNED THAT
THAT DISAPPEARS FROM PUBLIC VIEW
. THAT'S CONCERNING, AND THERE'S
MAYBE DIFFERENT REASONS WHY THE
BOARD DECIDED TO REMOVE OR PUT
ON PROBATION, WHATEVER IT
HAPPENED. SO I DO HAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK I DON'T
FEEL LIKE I'M GETTING ENOUGH
CLARITY ABOUT THAT. SO, UM SO?
SO I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT RIGHT
NOW I'M NOT QUITE THERE ON THE
BILL, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT I THINK
WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT THE
CONVICTION AND THE EXPUNGEMENT
AS BEING SOMEWHAT SEPARATE FROM
THE LICENSING DECISION, WHICH I
KNOW MAYBE LINKED. THAT MAY BE A
REASON THE BOARD DID THAT. AND
CERTAINLY IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF
SOMEONE WAS WRONGFULLY CONVICTED
, HOPEFULLY THE BOARD WOULD
ACTUALLY THEN REMOVE AND CHANGE
THE LICENSE THAT ETCETERA, BUT I
MEAN, BUT I THINK THAT'S A
LITTLE DIFFERENT. AND SO I HAVE
TO MEET I STILL HAVE. I DO HAVE
CONCERNS. SARAH NEWMAN. SO, UM,
YOU KNOW, IT APPEARS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S NOW THAT THE
BILL VERY EXPLICITLY AND IN
SECTION AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 96
IN OUR IN OUR PRINT OUT. THAT IF
THE IF THE PERSON IS NOT
CURRENTLY LICENSES AND DOES NOT
REAPPLY FOR LIVES, AND SURE THEY
REMOVED THE INITIAL POSTING ON
ITS ONLINE LICENSES THAT THE
PERSON'S LICENSE WAS REVOKED IN
INFORMATION PREVIOUSLY POSITIVE
THE GOAL HERE AS I UNDERSTAND IT
IS TO NOT PREVENT THAT PERSON
FROM MOVING FORWARD IN SOME
OTHER SPHERE. SO THAT'S THE
JUSTIFICATION RIGHT? SO IF THEY
ARE NOT LICENSED, NOR THEY RE
APPLYING FOR LICENSURE THAT THE
GOAL HERE IS TO YOU WOULD REMOVE
THEM SHOW THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE
THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
SOMEBODY WHO HAD BEEN A
PHYSICIAN IS NOW TRYING TO RUN A
CONTRACTING BUSINESS IS NOT, YOU
KNOW, UNDULY PREVENTED FROM
DOING THAT. IS THAT CORRECT?
BECAUSE THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
YES UM, AS I MAY BE IN
ELOQUENTLY TRIED TO ARTICULATE
THE DIRECTION OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA GOING TO HELP ENSURE
THAT WE MOVE AS MANY BEERS AS
POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY IF
INDIVIDUALS HAVE SERVED THEIR
TIME. BUT BUT IT IS NOT TO
REMOVE THE BARRIER TO ONCE AGAIN
PRACTICE MEDICINE. IN GENERAL,
IT'S LIFE TO REMOVE BARRIERS TO
MOVING ON TO DO SOMETHING OTHER.
THAN THAT. FOR WHICH THE
ORIGINAL LICENSE IS THAT
CORRECT? YES I APPRECIATE THAT.
I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT THE BILL AND
I'LL MOVE IT WHEN APPROPRIATE.
ALEX ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? SAYING
NONE REMEMBER LOW WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
OVER. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A DID I
MISS IT? DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON
A B 6 46 MOVED BY SENATOR
NEWMAN. OKAY THE MOTION IS DUE
PAST WE REFER THE COMMITTEE ON
PUBLIC SAFETY. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. MAYBE 646 MOTIONS DO PASS
AND REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
PUBLIC SAFETY. BROTH I MELINDA'S
ARCHULETTA. BATES BATES, I
BECKER DODD EGGMAN POTATO.
JONES. LEYVA. AMEN. WOMAN I.
NEWMAN NEWMAN, KOBO KOBO GUY,
PAN. BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES WILL
HOLD THE ROPE AND FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BLOM. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. YOU HAVE
ITEM NUMBER 10 ASSEMBLY BILL 21
78. THANK YOU AND GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
. I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT A B 21
78, WHICH MAKES IMPORTANT
CHANGES TO THE BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONS CODE IN ORDER TO
ACCURATELY REFLECT THE WAY THAT
THEY'RE SPECIAL FACULTY PERMITS
ARE UTILIZED BY OUR ACADEMIC
MEDICAL CENTERS. TO LICENSE,
FOREIGN EDUCATED AND TRAINED
PHYSICIANS. ACADEMIC MEDICAL
CENTERS SUCH AS CEDAR SINAI
UTILIZED THE SPECIAL PERMIT
SECTION OF THE BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONS CODE. ACADEMIC
MEDICAL CENTERS ARE ALLOWED TO
PARTICIPATE IN SPECIAL LICENSING
AND EMPLOY FOREIGN EDUCATED AND
TRAINED PHYSICIANS, WHICH
ENRICHES BOTH THE TRAINING AND
EDUCATION. OF FUTURE CLINICIANS
AND IMPROVES PATIENT CARE AND
EXPERIENCE. MAYBE 20 TO 73 A
BILL I AUTHORED IN 2020 THAT WAS
SIGNED INTO LAW CLARIFIED
EXISTING STATUTE RELATIVE TO
SPECIAL FACULTY PERMITS AND
ACADEMIC MEDICAL CENTERS IN
ORDER TO FACILITATE THE USE OF
THESE PERMITS BY ACADEMIC
MEDICAL CENTERS. A B 21 78
PROVIDES ADDITIONAL NECESSARY
CLARIFICATION TO EXISTING LAW
DEFINING AND ACADEMIC MEDICAL
CENTER BY ACCURATELY REFLECTING
THE TYPES OF TRAINEES AND
LEARNING EXPERIENCES. OFFERED AT
THESE INSTITUTIONS. THESE
CHANGES ARE ESSENTIAL IN ORDER
TO ALIGN EXISTING LAW WITH THE
TERMINOLOGY THAT'S USED BY THE
ACCREDITATION COUNCIL FOR
GRADUATE MEDICAL EDUCATION. THE
MOST RECENT AMENDMENTS TO THE
BILL HELPED TO FURTHER CLARIFY
THE PROVISIONS OF THE BILL AND
ENSURE THAT THEY ACCURATELY
ALIGNED WITH THE ACCREDITATION
COUNCILS. TERMINOLOGY I WANT TO
THANK COMMITTEE STAFF AS WELL AS
DR PAN. AND HIS STAFF FOR THEIR
VALUABLE INPUT ON THESE
AMENDMENTS. KIMBERLY FERNANDEZ,
THE SPECIAL LICENSING OFFICER
FOR CEDAR SINAI, WILL TESTIFY
AND SUPPORTED THE BILL. THANK
YOU, SIR. PLEASE PROCEED.
FERNANDEZ. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIRMAN WAS CHAIRMAN VALENTA'S
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND
SOME RELIEF FERNANDEZ, PROGRAM
MANAGER AND SPECIAL LICENSE, NOT
PETER SINAI. PETER'S CHINA AS
LEVEL ONE PROMISED CENTER WITH
889 LIFE WAS SPREAD WHERE WE
DELIVER APPROXIMATELY 7000
BABIES ANNUALLY. MOST OF THE
MISSISSIPPI OVER 20. 294,000
PATIENTS HERE AND EMPLOYING
NEARLY 16,000 PEOPLE. IN
ADDITION, WHERE MAJOR RESEARCH
AND TEACHING HOSPITAL AMONG THE
TOP 10 IN THE US AND NUMEROUS
CLINICAL SPECIALTIES EVERYDAY
PETERSON DESCRIBED. TO BRING THE
BRIGHTEST AND TALENTED,
IMPACTFUL PROFESSIONALS L, A AND
CALIFORNIA CEDARS SINAI STRONGLY
FOR JUST SUPPORTS OF A B 21 78
DEVELOPMENT PROVIDED WELL
ROUNDED MEDICAL EDUCATION
PROGRAMS. ACADEMIC MEDICAL
CENTERS WORKED ATTRACT TOP FROM
AROUND THE WORLD. EXPENSIVE
RESIDENCY AND FELLOWSHIP
PROGRAMS. LEADERS CURRENTLY
TRANSFER THEM 482 POSITIONS
TOGETHER WITH RESEARCHERS SCHOOL
LATEST PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA AND
LEAD NATIONALLY VISIBLE CLINICAL
AND RESEARCH PROGRAMS. IMPROVING
THE HEALTH OF CALIFORNIANS AND
THOSE WHO TAKE CAREFUL ACROSS
THE US AND THE WORLD. THE
LICENSE, FOREIGN EDUCATED AND
TRAINED ASSISTANCE. ACADEMIC
MEDICAL CENTERS SUCH AS PETER
SINAI, UTILIZE THE SPECIAL
PERMIT PROFESSIONS CODES THROUGH
OUR AFFILIATION WITH DAVID MET
DAVID GEFFEN MEDICAL CRLA.
LEADERS TRAINS MEDICAL STUDENTS
FROM THE CHILEAN CHARLES
UNIVERSITY SUCCESSFULLY UTILIZED
SPECIAL PERMIT. SECTION FOR BOTH
FACULTY AND RESEARCH FELLOWS IN
2020. MAYBE 22 73 CLARIFIED
EXISTING STATUS. RELATIVE
SPECIAL FACTORS DETERMINE AN
ACADEMIC MEDALS TO THE CENTERS.
BUT DIRECT USED TO THESE
PROGRAMS BY ACADEMIC MEDICAL
CENTER. MAYBE 21 78 CLARIFIED
THE DEFINITION OF ACADEMIC
MEDICAL CENTER BY ACCURATELY
REFLECTING THIS TYPE OF TRAINEES
AND LEARNING EXPERIENCES
OPERATIVE INSTITUTIONS.
REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS
REMAIN THE SAME FOR APPLICANT
INSTITUTIONS AND THE MEDICAL
BOARD ASSESSMENT PROCESS DOES
NOT CHANGE FOR THESE REASONS. WE
RESPECTFULLY URGE HER YES AND
MAYBE 21 78. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. NOW, LET'S HEAR FROM ANY
OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT IN
THE HEARING ROOM. SEEING NONE.
LET'S MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING
TEST FIVE YEAR THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MODERATOR
, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY
SUCH INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT ASSEMBLY
BILL 21 78. WE WILL BEGIN WITH
THEM. IF YOU IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A B 21 78,
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. I
HAVE NO COMMENTS IN. Q THANK
YOU, MODERATOR. LET'S FOLLOW THE
SAME PROCESS AND HEAR FROM ANY
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. MOVED TO
ANY WITNESSES HERE IN THE
HEARING ROOM WISH TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE,
SEEING NONE. LET'S MOVE TO THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MODERATOR
ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT ANY SUCH INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. T ASSEMBLY BILL 21
78. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THEM.
THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION TO A B 21 78,
PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. I
HAVE NO COMMENT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MODERATOR. LET'S TAKE
THE MATTER BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES
HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM,
COLLEAGUES, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS
AND CONCERNS. DR PAN JUST FIRST
OF ALL, SUMMER BOOM. THANK YOU
FOR WORKING WITH MY OFFICE. I
APPRECIATE CEDAR SINAI DOING IT
AS WELL. I'VE MOVED THE BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
DOCTOR PAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? SAYING
NONE OF BLOOM WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS. I ASKED FOR YOUR I VOTE
WITH GREAT RESPECT. DR. PANDA'S
MOVED ASSEMBLY BILL 21 78. THE
MOTION IS DUE PAST THREE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. MAYBE 21 78 MOTIONS DO
PASS, AND WE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
ROTH HIæN. MELINDA'S ARCHULETTA
EIGHTS. BATES, I BECKER. DIED.
EGGMAN. POTATO. JONES LEYVA,
SIMONNEWMAN, PHOTOVOGUE BOAKYE
PAN. BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES WILL
HOLD THE ROLL OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
WAS LOOKING FOR SOME REMEMBER
SMITH, BUT I SEE HE HAD TO LEAVE
FOR PROBABLY FOR THE ASSEMBLY. I
SEE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THIS AREA
HERE. REMEMBER IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE GOING TO BE
PRESENTING FOR SOMEBODY MEMBER
MCCARTY, WHICH WOULD BE ITEM
NUMBER TWO ASSEMBLY BUILT 10, 14
AND ALSO YOUR OWN MEASURE. ITEM
NUMBER NINE. ASSEMBLY BEING
ASSUMED WE BUILT 1901 CORRECT
AND WHATEVER ORDER YOU'D LIKE UP
TO YOUR PREFERENCE. DON'T WE
START WITH NUMBER TWO, SINCE
THAT ONLY REQUIRES ME TO TURN A
FEW PAGES HERE. SIMPLY BUILT 10
14. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT A B 10 14
, WHICH MAKES THE LEGAL CANNABIS
INDUSTRY MORE COMPETITIVE
AGAINST THE ILLICIT MARKET.
RIGHT NOW, A LICENSED RETAILER
CAN ONLY CARRY UP TO $5000
WORTH. OF CANNABIS GOODS DURING
DELIVERY. THIS IS ABOUT ONE
SMALL BRIEFCASE OF CANNABIS
PRODUCTS BECAUSE MOST LICENSED
RETAILERS ARE IN URBAN CITIES.
60% OF CALIFORNIANS MY MUST
DRIVE OVER AN HOUR TO REACH A
LEGAL CANNABIS STORE LIKE OF
ACCESS INCENTIVIZES PEOPLE TO
PURCHASE FROM ILLICIT MARKET,
WHICH IS UNREGULATED AND
UNTESTED, PUTTING MANY
CALIFORNIANS AT RISK. THIS BILL
ALLOWS LICENSED RETAILERS TO
CARRY $10,000 WORTH OF CANNABIS
PRODUCTS AND ENSURES THAT
DRIVERS RECEIVE BENEFITS AND
AUTO INSURANCE FOR THE VEHICLE
THEY USE. WE MUST INCREASE
DELIVERY LIMITS TO BOLSTER THE
LICENSED INDUSTRY AND KEEP
CALIFORNIANS SEE FROM
UNREGULATED CANNABIS. TESTIFYING
IN SUPPORT REMOTELY VIA PHONE OR
RASHAD JOHNSON WITH EASE AND
KRISTEN HEIDEL BACH WITH U F C W
OKAY. WITNESSES REMEMBER THE
THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT TOTAL.
PLEASE PROCEED. YOU HAVE THEM.
LET ME MAKE SURE. PLEASE DON'T.
PLEASE DON'T PLEASE TAKE
YOURSELF OFF OF SPEAKERPHONE.
LET'S START WITH THAT IF YOU'RE
ON A SPEAKERPHONE. AND NOW
PROCEED. WELL, BARELY. WE CAN
HEAR YOU PEOPLE HAVE OKAY.
FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. COME HERE
AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THESE
TECHNOLOGIES SUPPORTED 10 14
INCREASE PATIENT ACCESS TO LEGAL
CANNABIS SOCIETY. LEGAL CHANGES
OPERATION WHICH ACCOUNT FOR 75%
OF CALIFORNIA CANDIDATE YEARS IN
THE CALIFORNIA POLICE PARK. IT'S
NO EVIDENCE THAT CANNABIS
DELIVERY ADDRESS SIX. ON THE
CONTRARY, DATA SHOWS DELIVERY
MECHANISM, CALIFORNIA. BUY LEGAL
CANNABIS REINFORCED HOME
DELIVERY DESIGNATION AS A
CENTRAL UNDERCOVER STAY AT HOME
ORDERS. 87 14 JUST FINISHING
TIME RAISING DELIVERY CASE FROM
THE ILLEGAL MARKET CURRENTLY
INTERESTING IN CALIFORNIA
CANNABIS LIFE SELLER AND
ACCORDING TO THE COMMUNITY.
APPROXIMATELY 60% OF CALIFORNIA
PRESCRIBED 50 MILES AND MORE.
DELIVERY BASED ON THE INCREASED
COMPANIES IN THE PAST. UNTIL THE
DEMANDS FEEDBACK MUSICAL CELERY
AND WRITTEN THEM WHILE
UNDERMINING OFTEN MAKERS, LABOR
UNIONS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
SMALL RAISING CASES SUPPORT
RIGHT CORRECT CASE. STEVE
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 1000 IS
REALLY GREAT. IRAQ 1000 FOR YOUR
SAFETY AND LABOR PROTECTIONS
REQUIRED CANNABIS REGULATION.
RAISING LIKELY TO SCHOOL PART
MEETS STRINGENT WORKERS' SAFETY
STANDARDS. CANADA WORKERS, MANY
OF THEM UNION MEMBERS, AND ALL
OF THEM THAT EMPLOYEES THEY
RAISING CASE FROM THE
COMMUNITIES AND THE ENTIRE TAX
UNDER THE LOCAL PRIORITIES.
RECENTLY INFECTED DELIVERY.
FIRST LEGAL OPERATORS DON'T PAY
TAXES HAPPENING OFF MONEY. THAT
COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO
LOCATION ALSO FORCED TO LIVE
AGAINST RETAILERS. AND
INEFFICIENCY THAT RESULT
HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL MILES OF
GROWTH. MR JOHNSON, MR. JOHNSON
BELIEVES I RESPECT THE FBI, MR
JOHNSON. MR JOHNSON. CAN YOU
HEAR ME? I THINK I PROBABLY
CAUGHT TWO OUT OF 10 WORDS THAT
YOU SAID SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU
ANOTHER MINUTE TO TRY TO BOIL
THAT DOWN. SO MY COLLEAGUES GET
TO THE ESSENCE OF YOUR SUPPORT,
BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE
WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING SO WE CAN
HEAR YOU BECAUSE THE AUDIO THIS
MORNING THIS AFTERNOON IS
ATROCIOUS AT BEST. DO YOU WANT
TO TRY? OKAY I HAVE IT ON MY
IPHONE NOW. CURRENTLY STILL,
FEEDBACK SOUNDS LIKE LIKE A
PROPORTION IN IN THE BACKGROUND
WHILE I'M SPEAKING OVER IT, AND
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MITIGATE
THAT. WELL. WHY DON'T YOU SUBMIT
YOUR MATERIAL TO THE COMMITTEE
IN WRITING? IF YOU HAVE IT, AND
WE'LL CONSIDER IT THERE, BUT WE
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
SHOULD WE TRY, MISS HEIDEL BACH.
KRISTEN. MODERATOR DO YOU HAVE
KRISTEN HEIDEL BACK ON THE LINE?
JUST ONE MOMENT.
SHE IS ON THE PHONE. JUST ONE
SECOND HERE. THANK YOU.
HELLO. MISS HIGH ROBAK. YES THIS
IS MY CATALOG SERVICE THAT I
THINK I'M HAPPY. YOU CAN HEAR
ME. OKAY WELL RIGHT NOW I CAN
AND WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL
DIFFICULTIES, TOO. SO IF YOU'RE
USING YOUR CELL PHONE AND NOT A
SPEAKER PHONE AND YOU SPEAK UP,
WE HAVE A REASONABLE CHANCE OF
HEARING MOST OF WHAT YOU SAY.
PLEASE PROCEED. OKAY GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS KRISTEN
HEIDEL BOX CANNABIS LEGISLATIVE
ADVOCATE WITH UNITED STUDENTS.
COMMERCIAL WORKERS, WESTERN TAKE
COUNSEL. HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR
180,000 MEMBERS, THOUSANDS OF
WHOM WORKED IN THE CANNABIS
INDUSTRY. YES I WAS PROUD TO
SUPPORT AND THINK
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BACARDI FOR
OFFERING 80 10 14, WHICH WOULD
INCLUDE MY NEEDED WORKER
PROTECTIONS FOR DELIVERY
DRIVERS. SOON BE CARING DOUBLES
CORRECT LIMITS OVER CALIFORNIA
ROADS. ACCESS TO LEGAL CANNABIS
PRODUCT REMAINS A CHALLENGE FOR
SOME RESIDENTS OF CALIFORNIA AS
A NUMBER OF OUR CITIES AND
COUNTIES, FANS KIND OF COMMERCE.
DELIVERY BUSINESSES. NON
STOREFRONT RETAILERS REMAIN AN
IMPORTANT AND INTEGRAL PART OF
THE SUPPLY CHAIN. UFCW
UNDERSTANDS THE NEED TO BOLSTER
OUR LEGAL MARKET AND ALLOW
CANNABIS CONSUMERS ACCESS TO
PRODUCTS THAT ARE SAFE, LEGAL
AND TESTED OVER ALLOWING KIND OF
DELIVERY DRIVERS. MANY OF WHOM
ARE UFCW MEMBERS CARRY MORE
PRODUCTS IS ONLY ONE PART OF THE
SOLUTION AND SHOULD BE MET WITH
ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS PROTECT
WORKERS. MAYBE 10 14 DOES JUST
THAT BY ADDING ADDITIONAL
WORKERS SAFEGUARD IT ENSURES
WORKERS ARE DRIVING AND SAFE
VEHICLES BY ADDING REQUIREMENTS
THAT ENSURE DELIVERY VEHICLES
ARE IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. THIS
IS DEFINED BY HAVING A VEHICLE
NOT COLDER THAN 10 YEARS. NO
MAJOR CRACKS OR STRUCTURES IN
ITS WINDSHIELD. WORKING
HEADLIGHTS UNTIL LIGHT AND UP TO
DATE REGISTRATION. ADDITIONALLY
ÁP 10 14 REQUIRES DELIVERY
EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO
HEALTHCARE BENEFITS FOR ALL FULL
TIME DELIVERY EMPLOYEES. BY
PROVIDING A SUBSIDY TO ALLOW
EMPLOYEES PURCHASE HEALTH
INSURANCE COVERAGE. CALIFORNIA
ACCESS TO GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE
POLICIES FOR OTHER METHODS.
THESE ARE SIMPLE AND COMMON
SENSE MEASURES THAT ENSURE
DELIVERY DRIVERS ARE NOT IN A
POSITION TO DRIVE A VEHICLE THAT
IS VALUED LESS THAN THE PRODUCT
THAT THEY'RE CARRYING INSIDE. WE
APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFUL
CONSIDERATION ON THIS IMPORTANT
ADDITION TO DELIVERY STANDARDS
AND ENSURING OUR WORKERS
SUFFICIENTLY ACCEPTED FOR THESE
REASONS. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR I VOTE. ONE ASSEMBLY STILL
10 14 THANK YOU AND HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. NOW,
LET'S HEAR FROM ANY OTHER
SUPPORT WITNESSES IN THE HEARING
ROOM. PLEASE STEP FORWARD NAME,
AFFILIATION AND POSITION ON THE
MEASURE, PLEASE. MONEY TO
CLEARLY STATE THAT WE SUPPORT
THIS BILL ON THE STORY
IMPORTANT, BILL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT, PLEASE.
HAM LOPEZ ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA. NORMAL IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. SEEING ANOTHER
ANOTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT IN
THE HEARING ROOM. LET'S MOVE TO
WITNESSES WILLING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MODERATOR
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY
SUCH INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORTIVE ASSEMBLY
BUILT 10 14. WE WILL BEGIN WITH
THEM. THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A B 10 14
THESE THREATS 10 AT THIS TIME. I
HAVE NO COMMENTS IN HUGH. THANK
YOU, MODERATOR. NOW, LET'S
FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS AND HEAR
FROM ANY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. FIRST OPPOSITION
WITNESSES IN THE HEARING ROOM,
PLEASE STEP FORWARD. NAME. WELL,
ACTUALLY, WE'LL LET YOU GIVE YOU
AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, SIR.
SINCE YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE MOVE
FORWARD CHAIR MEMBERS. IF I MAY
HAVE A MINUTE, YOU CERTAINLY MAY
EMPANEL ON EHALF OF THE UNITED
CANNABIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATION
THAT CANNABIS BEVERAGE
ASSOCIATION. ARE CONCERNED WITH
THE BILL IS THAT WHILE IT DOES
PROVIDE ACCESS TO JURISDICTIONS
THAT DON'T ALLOW CANNABIS SALES
, IT WILL ALLOW FOR OVER
CONCENTRATION IN CERTAIN CITIES
ARE ALREADY ALLOWED CANNABIS
CELLS. FOR INSTANCE, EACH
VEHICLE A LOT GOOD CARRY UP TO
$10,000 OF AN ORDER PRODUCT 10
VEHICLES THAT'S $100,000 WORTH
OF CANNABIS PRODUCTS IN CITIES
IN JURISDICTIONS. WHILE WE
SUPPORT OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS
OF UFCW FOR THE WORKER
PROTECTIONS, OUR MAIN CONCERN IS
THE AMOUNT OF CANVAS PRODUCTS
THAT CARRY. WE THINK THAT ACCESS
IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT NOT AT
THE EXPENSE OF ALSO COMMUNITIES
WHERE WE WILL SEE A LOT OF THIS
BECAUSE IN LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES WHERE CANNABIS SALES
ARE HAPPENING, THEY LISTEN.
MARKET IS A PROBLEM. UM AND WE
THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A
SOLUTION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO
ENGAGING WITH MR MCCARTY. WE'VE
I REACHING TO ENGAGE WITH HIM TO
FIGURE OUT MIDDLE GROUND BECAUSE
WE DO WANT TO SEE A SOLUTION.
OUR INTENTION IS NOT TO STOP THE
BILL, BUT TO REACH AN AGREEMENT
WITH HIM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
SIR. ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION IN THE HEARING ROOM?
NOW LET'S TURN TO OPPOSITION
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY FOR
VIA THE TELECONFERENCE SERVICE
MODERATOR ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY SUCH
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY BILL
10 14. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH
THEM. THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ÁP, 10
SPORTS TEAMS PRESS 10 AT THIS
TIME. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF
COMMENTS AND HE WILL JUST DO ONE
MOMENT FOR THE FIRST COMMENT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WILL
BE JUST ONE MOMENT FOR THE FIRST
COMMENT.
THE FIRST COMMENTS FROM LINE 40,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
. MY NAME IS STEVE NEAL. I'M
WITH LONG BEACH COLLECTIBLE
TOTAL VIATOR. WE REPRESENT
CANNABIS OPERATORS AND LIKELY
OPERATORS IN LONG BEACH AND WE
HAVE TO RISE AND FEEL WITHOUT
AMENDMENT. APPRECIATE WE
APPRECIATE THE AUTHORS AND TENTS
AND WHAT THE INTENT OF THE BILL
IS, BUT WE BELIEVE THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES TO BE
ADVERSE. FOR MEMBERSHIP. AND WE
WOULD WORK WITH AUTHORIZATION IN
FINDING A SOLUTION. THANK YOU,
SIR. NEXT, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
RYAN 49, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
AFTERNOON JOHNSON CARE ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA MINORITY
ALLIANCE, CANADA $3 ALLIANCE,
AND THEY TELL A VALLEY
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED. STILL, WE
LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY
TO WORK WITH THE AUTHOR TO
CORRECT HELPFUL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT, PLEASE 51 GO
AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN HEAR
ME? YES, PLEASE PROCEED. GO
AHEAD. ALEJANDRO POLICE AND WE
HAVE LEFT ME THAT, UH, WE'D LIKE
LANA COMMENTS WITH THE UNITED
KIND OF NEGOTIATION AND, UH,
PROTECTIVE COMMUNITIES. PROPOSED
INVESTMENT. THANK YOU, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER
COMMENT. THANK YOU. OKAY LET'S
NOW BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK TO
MY COLLEAGUES IN THE HEARING
ROOM, COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS AND CONCERNS. BEEN
MOVED BY DR PENN SENATOR NEWMAN
COMMENT, BUT, UM SO, UM,
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HERE AND I KNOW
THIS IS NOT YOUR BILL. YOU'RE
JUST DOING A GOOD DEED TODAY. SO
APPRECIATE THAT, BUT BUT IF YOU
COULD TAKE BACK TO THE AUTHOR, I
DO APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS OF
THE OPPOSITION. ESPECIALLY
AROUND PERSPECTIVE, UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES IN THOSE AREAS
WHERE YOU COULD WIND UP WITH AN
UNDUE CONCENTRATION OF ACTIVITY
. SO YOU KNOW WHAT URGE THE
AUTHOR TO CONTINUE THIS
CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH THAT
GLAD TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY.
THANK YOU, SIR. MM, SENATOR PAN
FIRST IN A RITUAL BOGUE. THANK
YOU. UM AND SORT OF ECO CENTER.
NEWMAN'S COMING AGAIN APPRECIATE
YOUR PRESENTING TO BUILD FOR
SUMMER. MCCARTY CERTAINLY
STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PROTECTIONS
FOR THE FOR THE WORKERS, BUT
HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE
OTHER INTENDED CONSEQUENCES
RELATED TO THE AMOUNT AND OTHER
THINGS THE OPPOSITION SO I
UNDERSTAND THAT THE AUTHOR WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK. SO BE VOTING
FOR THE BILL TO MOVE FORWARD,
BUT I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET SOME
RESOLUTION FOR HITS THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU. SENATOR KOBO GTA HIGH
ALSO SAY SHIP SHARE THE SAME
CONCERNS AS MY COLLEAGUES. BUT
IN ADDITION TO THAT ALSO I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF
THESE DRIVERS CARRYING THE
AMOUNT WHICH IS SPECIFIED IN THE
BILL OF 10,000. WHETHER IT'S THE
PRODUCT, OR, UM, I'M ASSUMING
AND THIS IS WHERE I'M NOT SURE
DO THEY? WHEN THEY WHEN THEY
SPECIFY $10,000 WORTH OF PRODUCT
IS THAT ALSO INCLUDED THE
POTENTIAL OF CARING 10 TO
$10,000 WORTH OF CASH BECAUSE
SOME OF THE PRODUCTS ARE, UM IT
STATES HERE THAT SOME OF THEM
ARE PREORDERED, WHICH I'M
ASSUMING THEY COULD PAY ONLINE
SO THAT YOU HAVE TO CARRY THAT.
BUT THE OTHER ONE IS NON
PREORDERED GOODS, WHICH I'M NOT
GOING TO ASSUME THAT COULD
POTENTIALLY BE BOUGHT. UNHAND IN
PERSON, OR, UM, IN IN IN THAT
POSE IS ALSO THE CONSORT OF
CARRYING THAT MUCH CASH BECAUSE
COULD YOU IMAGINE THE WAY THAT
I'M THINKING OF THIS IS IF
PEOPLE KNOW WHO'S DELIVERING OR
WHEN THEY'RE DELIVERING. IT
COULD POTENTIALLY BE A NIGHTMARE
AND SAFETY FOR THESE FOR THESE
INDIVIDUALS, NOT LIKE A BRICK
AND MORTAR FACILITY WHERE YOU
HAVE CAMERAS AND YOU CAN HAVE
THE SAFETY GUARD. IF NECESSARY
THERE, UM AND SO FORTH, SO TO
ME, UM AND I'M SURE THAT 5000 OR
$10,000, FOR SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT
BE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. BUT BUT
IN REALITY, HE GOES THE HIGHER
THE AMOUNT. UM TO ME COULD BE AN
INCREASE SAFETY HAZARD FOR THESE
DRIVERS. UM SOME KIND OF I'M A
LITTLE HESITANT ON THIS BECAUSE
AS MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, SO I
UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THE
BILL. UM I DO SHARE ALSO THE
CONCERNS OF THE OPPOSITION GOING
THERE TO LAY OFF THE BILL THIS
TIME, CAUSE I LIKE I WANT TO SEE
A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK TOWARDS
AND SEE HOW THESE SAFETY
CONCERNS MAY BE ADDRESSED AS IT
AS THE BILL MOVES FORWARD, BUT I
DO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IN THE
FLOOR BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT
WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING
POSSIBLE TO EXCUSE THE ILLEGAL
GROWTH. WE HAVE A HUGE NUMBER OF
ILLEGAL GROWTH IN OUR AREA, SO I
WANT TO SUPPORT POLICY. THAT
ALLOWS FOR EFFECTIVE SAFE, UM.
BUSINESS PRACTICES FOR THIS
INDUSTRY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW THE
BORDERS OF CALIFORNIA HAVE
SPOKEN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME NOT
OPEN PANDORA'S BOX TO UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCE. I WANT TO THINK I
WANT TO SEE THINGS A LITTLE MORE
THOUGHT THROUGH. IN A LITTLE
MORE DEFINED TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE HAVE THE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE
, BUT I DO LOOK FORWARD TO
HOPEFULLY SUPPORTING IT ON THE
FLOOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES?
SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? FIRST OF ALL, THANK
YOU ON BEHALF OF SOME REMEMBER
MCCARTHY. THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTIONS AND THE CONCERNS. I
WISH I WAS IN A PLACE WHERE I
COULD ANSWER ON HIS BEHALF. I
CAN ONLY SPECULATE SAME AS YOU
THAT THE INITIAL DOLLARS PLACED
IN THE BILL WERE, UH, WERE TO
PROTECT THE DRIVERS AND TO OFFER
SOME LEVEL OF SECURITY AT LEAST
AT A LOWER THRESHOLD. BUT MAYBE
AFTER A FEW YEARS OF BUSINESS
CONDUCT, THERE IS A NEED A
GROWING NEED TO INCREASE
CAPACITY. I CAN ONLY ASSUME I
DON'T KNOW IF THE ANY OF THE AH
TESTIFYING. INDIVIDUALS ARE
UNDERLINED AND WANT TO ADDRESS
THAT, IF NOT I'M HAPPY TO JUST
ASK FOR YOUR RESPECTFUL I VOTE
AND HAVE THE AUTHOR CONTINUE
WORKING WITH YOU AND I WILL TAKE
BACK YOUR CONCERNS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BILL
HAS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR PAN
THE BILL ASSEMBLY BILL 10 14.
THE MOTION IS DUE PSS. WE REFER
TO THE. YOU ARE. YOU ARE GOING
TO HAVE TO THE ACOUSTICS IN THIS
ROOM AREN'T VERY GOOD FOR OLD
PEOPLE. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO
SPEAK UP SO THE BILL HAS BEEN
MOVED BY SENATOR MEN. THE MOTION
IS DO PASS AND WE REFER THE
COMMITTEE ON LABOR, PUBLIC
EMPLOYMENT AND RETIREMENT.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. EVERY 10
14 EMOTIONS DO PASS AND WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
LABOR, PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT AND
RETIREMENT. ROTH MELINDA'S
ARCHULETTA BATES. BATES? NO,
BECKER. RIGHT ER I DODD EGGMAN
HER TATO. JONES. FLAVOR. LABOR
AYMAN MEN I NEWMAN KOBOKO. PAN,
AND I. THE VOTE IS 6 TO 1 WILL
HOLD THE DOOR OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. AND REMEMBER, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO ATTEMPT TO TACKLE YOUR
ITEM NUMBER NINE ASSEMBLY BILL
1901 EFFICIENTLY. I'D LOVE TO,
AND I HOPE THAT THIS TAKES EVEN
LESS TIME. UM MR CHAIR, SENATORS
FIRST AND FOREMOST, LET ME
ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENTS AND THANK YOU AND
YOUR STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US
TO IMPROVE THE BILL. UM THIS
BILL REQUIRES DOG TRAINERS TO
DISCLOSE BASIC INFORMATION IN
WRITING TO DOG OWNERS PURCHASING
THEIR SERVICES BEFORE A
TRANSACTION IS COMPLETED. THE
REQUIRED INFORMATION TO BE
DISCLOSED AS SIMPLE AND COVERS
THE BASIC, UM THE BASICS, WHICH
INCLUDE A DOG TRAINERS, NAME AND
ADDRESS TRAINING TECHNIQUES IN
PHILOSOPHY TRAINING PLAN ANY
CIVIL JUDGMENTS? WELL OR ANIMAL
CRUELTY CONVICTIONS RELATED TO
THE DOG TRAINERS, SERVICES AND
WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE
CERTIFIED OR LICENSED SENATORS
TOO OFTEN, CALIFORNIA'S DOG
OWNERS AND THEIR DOGS HAVE BEEN
NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. BY DOG
TRAINERS WHO WITHHOLD THEIR
QUALIFICATIONS AND TRAINING
TECHNIQUES. THROUGHOUT THIS
PROCESS, WE HAVE ENGAGED WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THAT THE
PROPOSED REGULATIONS WILL HAVE A
LIMITED IMPACT ON RESPONSIBLE
DOG TRAINERS. THROUGH THESE
CONVERSATIONS, WE HAVE AMENDED
THE BILL TO FOCUS ON THE COURT
INTENT, INCREASING DISCLOSURE
AND INFORMATION SHARING BETWEEN
DOG OWNERS AND DOG TRAINERS.
WITH THAT. I DO APPRECIATE YOUR
CONSIDERATION, AND, UH, WITH ME
TO, UH TO TESTIFY AS JULIANA
TETLOW FROM THE SAN DIEGO
SOCIETY FOR PREVENTION OF
CRUELTY TO ANIMALS. MS TETLOW,
PLEASE PROCEED. PLEASE BE AS
EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE WITH YOUR
TESTIMONY. IF YOU CAN, AS WE
HAVE A TWO P.M. SENATE CONVENING
DEADLINE THAT WE'RE OPERATING
UNDER TODAY. YES OR THE ONE
MINUTE SO THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
MEMBERS. HELLO I'M ACTUALLY
TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF THE
ORGANIZATIONS TODAY AND
CALIFORNIA ANIMAL WELFARE
ASSOCIATION, ALSO KNOWN AS
POWERFUL SUB TRAINING AND TAPE
THEM UP. IMPORTANT SERVICE
OFFERED PRE AND POST ADOPTION BY
STANDING PAYMENTS SOCIETY AS
MANY OF THE MOST MEMBER WORK
STATION. HAIR DOT PARENTS
SOUTHEAST SUCCESSFUL
RELATIONSHIP. I'M BEGINNING TO
COMPLEX INDUSTRY AND SERVICES
ARE OFFERED A NUMBER OF FORMATS
, HEALTH AND TYPE. TO PRESERVE
THE HUMAN ANIMAL BOND ELEVATE
LIFESAVING AND HELP PETS AND
THEIR PARENTS GOVERNOR TÌM
INDUSTRY IS LARGELY UNREGULATED
AND UNDEFINED STATUTE AND WHAT
WILL PICK HIâU EIGHT AND DEVELOP
COMPREHENSIVE LEGISLATION TO
QUESTION US. MAYBE NIGHTS, NO.
ONE CRITICAL FIRST STEP AND
PROVIDING PARENTS WITH THE
INFORMATION THEY NEED FOR THEIR
TRAINERS WILL LIKE CLOCKS ON
TRAINING TECHNIQUES. IN THE
HISTORY OF THE PROCESS. I WANT
TO THANK THE AUTHOR WHO BRINGS
FORWARD AND ALSO HAS VINDICATED
ME TYPE STAND OUT ANIMALS
RESPECTIVELY REQUESTED. MR ADLER
BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE LINE, JUST
RUNNING A LITTLE DIAGNOSTIC
HERE. WERE YOU USING A SPEAKER
PHONE? I WAS NOT USING A SECRET USING THAT
LANDSLIDE, AND I WAS NOT ASKED.
OKAY WELL, THAT TELLS US THAT WE
HAVE A PROBLEM OF A DIFFERENT
NATURE. HERE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. NOW
LET'S HEAR FROM ANY LET'S HEAR
FROM ANY SUPPORT WITNESSES AND
HEARING ROOM NAME. AFFILIATION
AND POSITION ON THE MEASURE.
PLEASE SIR, YES. HI, NICHOLAS
SOCKET SOCIAL COMPASSION IN
LEGISLATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER SUPPORT
WITNESSES IN THE HEARING ROOM?
LET'S NOW MOVE TO WITNESSES
WAITING TO TEST FIVE YEAR THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE MODERATOR
, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PROMPT ANY
SUCH WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORTIVE ASSEMBLY,
BILL 1901 WILL BEGIN WITH THEM.
THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF A B 19 OH ONE,
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME. I HAD NO COMMENTING.
HE'LL THANK YOU. LET'S FOLLOW
THE SAME PROCESS AND HEAR FROM
ANY OPPOSITION WITNESSES. FIRST
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN THE
HEARING ROOM SEEING NONE. LET'S
MOVE TO THE TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE MODERATOR, IF YOU WOULD
ONCE AGAIN PLEASE PROMPT ANY
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY BILL
1901. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH
THEM. THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO A B 19 OH
ONE PIECE PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME.
I HAVE NO COMMENT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MODERATOR. LET'S
BRING THE CONVERSATION BACK TO
MY COLLEAGUES. THOSE WHO ARE
HERE IN THE HEARING ROOM
COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS, COMMENTS
OR CONCERNS. SENATOR NEWMAN.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. SO
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S I AM THE PROUD
OWNER OF FOUR REALLY CHALLENGING
CHIHUAHUA HOURS WHO MAY OR MAY
NOT BE UNTRACEABLE, BUT I'VE HAD
FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE MEETING
ALL THE VARIOUS FOLKS WHO CALL
THEMSELVES DOG TRAINERS AND
VIOLENT OCCASIONS DON'T HAVE ANY
FORMAL TRAINING QUALIFICATIONS
AT ALL. AND SO IN THE EVENT THAT
THIS IS AMENDED, I GRATEFULLY
ASKED ON BEHALF OF WALLY HUGO
HOMER AND SIMON MY CHIHUAHUAS
THAT I'D BE ENTERED AS A CO
AUTHOR. GLAD TO MOVE THE BILL.
ANY OTHER. QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR
CONCERNS WHO CAN BEAT THAT
SENATOR KOBO CAN'T BEAT THAT.
I'M GOING TO BE DONE RIGHT AND
BORING NEXT TO THAT. UM I DO
HAVE QUESTIONS WOULD REGARDS. TO
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THOUGHTS ON
OH, YOU'RE YOUR PLAN OF ACTION
IN ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF
THE OPPOSITION WITH REGARDS TO
THE FACT THAT THERE IS CONFUSION
WITH BOTH PURCHASERS AND
TRAINERS, UM. WITH REGARD TO
DRUG DOG TRAINERS ARE NOT
REQUIRED TO BE LICENSED IN
CALIFORNIA WHILE THEIR
CERTIFICATION FOR SOME TYPES OF
TRAINING THEY'RE NOT FOR OTHERS,
INCLUDING SUPPORTING DOG
TRAINING. AND THIS I AM IN THE
RIGHT FIELD, RIGHT? OKAY JUST
WANNA MAKE SURE I'M IN THE RIGHT
BILL. AND THIS BILL, UH, I KNOW
I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE SURE THIS
BILL PERTAINS TO DOG TRAINING
SERVICES WERE JUST CURLING
UNDEFINED IN THE BILL, SO I'M
JUST KIND OF CURIOUS. HERE'S
THAT PROCESS ON THOSE SURE, SURE
. SO FIRST OF ALL, UH, WELL,
THEN LET ME JUST GIVE THE
RESPECT TO SENATOR NEWMAN AND
SAY THANK YOU HONORED TO HAVE
YOU AS A CO AUTHOR, UM AS FOR AS
FOR THE CONCERNS COMING FROM THE
OPPOSITION. I'VE BEEN WORKING
WITH ALL THE OPPOSITION. IN FACT
, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS
AUDIBLE. MAYBE THEY DIDN'T
MENTION IT BECAUSE I WAS HAVING
A TOUGH TIME HEARING IT,
SOCIETY FOR PREVENTION OF
CRUELTY OF ANIMALS THEMSELVES.
UH WE'RE NOT SUPPORTERS OF THIS
BILL. INITIALLY THEY HAD
CONCERNS WE MADE WE TOOK THEIR
AMENDMENTS AND THEY'RE NOW A
WITNESS ON BEHALF OF THE BUILD
AS WELL. SO I'VE BEEN WORKING
WITH THE OPPOSITION. IN FACT,
THIS BILL AH CHANGED QUITE A BIT
BECAUSE IT WAS VERY PRESCRIPTIVE
IN THE BEGINNING. AND SO WE MADE
CONSIDERABLE CHANGES TO AH TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE CORE OF IT
THE INTENT CORE OF IT IS WHAT
COMES ACROSS, WHICH IS THE
DISCLOSURE. NOW. WE DIDN'T WANT
TO COMPLICATE THE ISSUE FURTHER
BY SET BY OUTRIGHT ASKING FOR
LICENSURE BECAUSE STAFF CAN ALSO
TELL YOU THAT BECOMES VERY
DAUNTING, AND THERE ARE
MULTIPLE, VARIOUS DIFFERENT
CONCERNS AND ISSUES. UM SO WE
WANTED TO AT LEAST BRING TO THE
FOREFRONT. SIMPLE. BASIC
INFORMATION OF WHAT CREDIBILITY
THE TRAINERS BRING. AH
ESPECIALLY IN HIGH HIGHER
DENSITY AREAS. IN CALIFORNIA,
WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF
INDIVIDUALS WHO RESIDE IN
APARTMENT BUILDINGS. AND THEIR
CAMPAIGNS AND THEY HAVE A
COMPANION DOG. AT THE LAST THING
YOU WANT IS FOR THEM HAVING TO
GO THROUGH FINDING SOME KIND OF
A TRAINER AND THEN REALIZING
THAT THEY WERE SWINDLED. AND
THIS HAPPENS QUITE A BIT,
ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE MORE
DENSE AREAS AND SO, UM AH, THIS
BILL WAS A FIRST STEP RESPONSE
IN TRYING TO ATTEMPT TO AT LEAST
BRING A CERTAIN LEVEL OF
DISCLOSURE SO THAT INDIVIDUALS
THAT SAY WHAT THEY DO THEY HAVE
THE CREDIBILITY BACKING IT.
FINDER STOOD YOUR QUESTION. I
HOPE THAT ANSWERS SUFFICES. AND
IF NOT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.
GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER. SO I'M
JUST GONNA CURIOUS YOU. YOUR
INTENT OF THE BILL IS JUST TO
HAVE THE REQUIREMENT OF
DISCLOSING THE TRAINING
BACKGROUND. OR LACK OF FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING ON THESE
RESPONSIBILITIES. IT'S NOT
SAYING LACK OF. IT'S JUST SAYING
WHAT QUALIFICATIONS THEY HAVE
AND WHAT WHAT TRAINING
METHODOLOGY. THEY'RE GOING TO
APPLY, AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE
CONSUMER. TO DECIDE WHOSE
SERVICES THEY WANT TO GO WITH,
ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA WHERE THEY
WILL THERE WILL BE AN ABUNDANCE
OF SERVICES BEING PROVIDED. AND
SO IS THIS WITH THE
UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM,
CONSUMERS DON'T HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW TO
ASK AS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR
TRAINERS. THEY CAN'T ALREADY
JUST DO THAT. THERE'S NOTHING
THAT REALLY EXCEPT FOR MAYBE
ANECDOTAL. THERE REALLY ISN'T
TOO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM
TO BECOME WELL EDUCATED. THERE
ISN'T A SPECIFIC REPOSITORY,
CREDIBLE REPOSITORY OF UH, UM,
INFORMATION FOR THEM TO BE ABLE
TO USE AS A GUIDE. SO THIS
CLEARS THAT ABSENCE ADDRESSES
THAT VOID. OKAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS. I SEE NONE. I KNOW
BILL HAS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
NEWMAN. BUT ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
NAZARIAN WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? I I'LL JUST TAKE THE LESS
RESPONSES AS MY CLOSURE AND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND
THOUGHTS. THANK YOU, SIR. THE
MOTION ON ASSEMBLY BILL 1901 IS
DO PASS. WE REFER THE COMMITTEE
ON JUDICIARY. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. EVERY 1901 MOTION IS DO
PASS AND REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY. ROTH
HI, MELINDA'S ARCHULETTA BATES
BECKER. RIGHT I DODD EGGMAN
POTATO JONES. JONES NO LEYVA
LEVI MEN. NEWMAN KOBOKO. PAN,
AND I. THE VOTE IS 5 TO 1 WILL
HOLD THE ROLL OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK
YOU ALL. QUESTION. CERTAINLY.
HIS ITEM NUMBER 11 ASSEMBLY BILL
22 10. WE HAVE EMOTION. AND BY
SENATOR PAN. IT WAS ME. I MOVED
IT. OKAY WELL, WE DIDN'T HAVE A
QUORUM THEN. BUT YOU MOVED IT.
SO SENATOR LEYVA HAS NOW MOVED.
ASSEMBLY BILL 22 10. THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS. WE REFER THE
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. EVERY 20 TO 10 MOTIONS DO
PASS AND REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT
ORGANIZATION. ROTH HIæN.
MELINDA'S ARCHULETTA BATES.
THICKER. ALRIGHT I DODD EGGMAN.
POTATO. JONES. LABOR. LIVER.
AMEN. MOMENT I NEWMAN KOBO KOBO
GUY PAN AND I HAS SEVEN VOTES
WILL HOLD THE ROLL OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. KILLINGS WOULD
YOU LIKE TO DO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR? WHAT WAS SITTING HERE?
MHM. YOU WANT TO IF YOU'RE OPEN. TO OPENING THE ROLE ON THE
REMAINING THE PRIOR BILLS. THAT
MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO BEFORE
SESSION. GOT LOADS OF FIVE
MINUTES TO GET THE SESSION SO
ONE OF THE DO THAT WHEN WE GET
BACK WE COULD TAKE CONSENT. IF
THERE IS A MOTION MOVED AND
THERE'S ONE BILL ON CONSENT.
FILE ITEM NUMBER 15 ASSEMBLY
BILL 25 74. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR, MAN MOVING GUY. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. 25 74 ROTH, I I'M
LINDA'S ARCHULETTA BATES.
BECKER. I ER I DODD EGGMAN. OR
TAITO. JONES. DON'T I LEYVA?
FIVE MEN, MEN I. NEWMAN NEWMAN
COBURG COBURG, I PAN AND I
CONSENT CALENDAR HAS EIGHT VOTES
WILL HOLD THE ROLL OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. COLLEAGUES WE'RE
GOING TO UNFORTUNATELY NEED TO
RECESS AND WE WILL RESUME 15
MINUTES AFTER THE CLOSE OF
SENATE SESSION. UNLESS I
ANNOUNCED TO THE CONTRARY, I DO
WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO OUR
COLLEAGUE. SOME OF THEM ARE
SMITH, WHO SAID DILIGENTLY
THROUGH THIS FIRST PART OF THE
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
HEARING WAITING TO PRESENT AND
HE IS NOT ABLE TO DO SO. SO
WE'LL CATCH HIM WHEN WE COME
BACK. WE ARE IN RECESS. SOME SIN
LIKE CONSEQUENCE. STEP HERE YOU
CAN GENERALLY.
OKAY? THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
BUSINESS PROFESSIONS IN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT WILL NOW RECONVENE
FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT, JUST A
REMINDER THAT PARTICIPANT TOLL
FREE NUMBER AND ACCESS CODE IS
POSTED ON OUR COMMITTEE WEBSITE.
IT WILL BE DISPLAYED ON THE
SCREEN. AND I WILL ANNOUNCE IT
NOW. TODAY'S PARTICIPANT NUMBER
IS 844. 29 OR 1636484. AND THE
ACCESS CODE IS 7110709. 711 0709. WE WILL RESUME BY CALLING ITEM
NUMBER FIVE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
REVIS. A B 17 42, SIR. PROCEED
WHEN READY. GOOD AFTERNOON.
APPRECIATE. YOU ALLOW ME TO
TESTIFY ON THIS BILL, AND THIS
LEGISLATION IS ASSEMBLY BILL
1742, WHICH SEEKS TO STRENGTHEN
AND CLARIFY THE EXISTING TOBACCO
DIRECTORY STATUTE. TO MEET
CALIFORNIA'S OBLIGATIONS UNDER
THE MASTER SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT
AGREEMENT, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
THE M S, A. S M S A PROVIDES FOR
SUBSTANTIAL ANNUALPAYMENTS FROM
TOBACCO MANUFACTURERS TO OUR
STATE. THESE PAYMENTS ARE
PROVIDED IN, UM UH SOME
PERPETUITY AND HAVE EXCEEDED 800
MILLION IN RECENT YEARS. IN
FACT, THE RECENT 2022 PAYMENT
WAS OVER 900 MILLION. HOWEVER,
THESE PAYMENTS ARE CONDITIONED.
ON OUR STATE'S ENACTMENT AND THE
DILIGENT ENFORCEMENT OF AN
ESCROW STATUTE AND IMPOSES
SIMILAR FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS ON
TOBACCO COMPANIES THAT ARE NOT A
PARTY TO THE M S. A SO TO
PREVENT THE STATE FROM LOSING
OUT ON ANY PAYMENTS. THIS BILL
STRENGTHENS EXISTING LAW TO
EIGHT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
ENFORCEMENT OF THAT ESKO STATUTE
AND OTHER MASTER SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT OBLIGATIONS BY
TARGETING NONCOMPLIANT BAD
ACTORS. MEANWHILE THIS THE FIRE
SAFETY ACT PROHIBITS CIGARETTES
FROM BEING SOLD IN CALIFORNIA
UNLESS THEY MEET FIRE SAFETY
STANDARDS. UNDER CURRENT LAW,
THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL REVIEWS
CIGARETTES TO VERIFY FIRE
SAFETY. HOWEVER DUE TO CERTAIN
RESTRAINTS, MANY CIGARETTES HAVE
BEEN AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED,
WHICH HAPPENS WHEN THE FIRE
MARSHAL TAKES NO ACTION ON
CIGARETTE APPLICATIONS AFTER 10
DAYS. SO THIS LEGISLATION WILL
HELP REDUCE THE RISK OF NON FIRE
SAFE CIGARETTES FROM ENTERING
THE MARKET BY TRANSFERRING
ENFORCEMENT OF THE FIRE SAFETY
ACT TO THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE, WHICH ALREADY
ENFORCES OTHER PARTS OF THE FIRE
SAFETY ACT. AND WOULD EXTEND THE
FIRE SAFETY REVIEW PERIOD FROM
10 TO 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL ADEQUATE TIME
TO REVIEW AND VERIFY FOR FIRE
SAFETY COMPLIANCE WITH ME THIS
AFTERNOON TO TESTIFY OR JENNA
STANFORD AND BARRY ALVIS ON
BEHALF OF ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB
BONTA. I BELIEVE THEY WILL BE
JOINING US, UM REMOTELY. THANK
YOU, SIR. MISS STANFORD AND VERY
PLEASE PROCEED. REMEMBER THREE
MINUTES. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHARRON. CITY
MEMBERS. MY NAME JANICE
HANNAFORD, DEPUTY OF GENERAL AND
LEGISLATIVE, THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE. BEHALF OF THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S UPON TO I
WANT TO THANK SUDDENLY MEMORY
THIS FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS
ISSUE AND OFFERING THIS STILL
MAYBE 17 42 IS AN IMPORTANT BILL
THAT WAS INSURED. CALIFORNIA
COMPLICATIONS HUNDREDS OF
TOBACCO MASTER SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT INTELLIGENT AND FORCE
THE STATE LAW. DETERMINATION
THAT CALIFORNIA HAS NOT
SATISFIED OUR PERSONAL
OBLIGATIONS COULD RISK THE LOSS
OF A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE
ANNUAL SETTLEMENT PAYMENTS TO
CALIFORNIA RECEIVED. WHICH AS
FAMILY MEMBERS ATTENTION
RECENTLY AVERAGED OVER $800
MILLION A YEAR. THE CIGARETTE
BUSINESS DOES NOT REMAIN THE
SAME OVER TIME. 18 17 42 UPDATE
. CALIFORNIA DIRECTORY STATUTES
WOULD DRESS RECENT DEVELOPMENTS
IN THE CIGARETTE INDUSTRY AND
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND OUR
ENFORCEMENT? IS A GOOD
GOVERNANCE MEASURES TO PROTECT
CALIFORNIA'S INTEREST IN PUBLIC
HEALTH. I MEAN PEOPLE LEVEL
PLAYING FIELD COMPLIANT SECRET
MANUFACTURERS. THIS ALSO
IMPROVES EFFICIENCY BY
CONSOLIDATING ADMINISTRATION AND
ENFORCEMENT OF PIRACY CIGARETTE
PROGRAM WITH YESTERDAY'S GENERAL
ARTIST GRAPHIC ENGLISH WHEN
THEY'RE NOT BEING ACTIVELY
SMOKED, WHILE NON PIRACY
CIGARETTES DO NOT GO OUT ON
THEIR OWN, AND THAT'S PRESENTED
SERIOUS VIRUS. THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE. ALREADY
REVIEWS OF LUMINOUS PIRACY
CERTIFICATION FILINGS SUBMITTED
BY MANUFACTURERS YEAR GIVE YOU
17 42 PARTS LIKE CONSOLIDATING
REVIEW CERTIFICATIONS. IN 2020
THE BILL BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY
ASSEMBLY THAT FORWARD PROGRESS
RELATED INDUSTRY THIS YEAR, WE
HOPE TO THE FINISH LINE TO
ENSURE THE CALIFORNIA CONTINUES
TO CANCEL ANNUAL PAYMENTS UNDER
THE MASTER SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
JOINING ME TODAY BY PHONE IS
VERY ELVIS DEPUTIES FROM THE
GENERAL IN OUR HEALTH CARE
RIGHTS AND ACCESS SECTIONS
AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
MEMBERS GENERAL'S OFFICE, WHICH
ACTUALLY ASKED YOUR I VOTE.
THANK YOU NEXT, PLEASE. OKAY
LET'S HEAR FROM ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IN THE
HEARING ROOM. SEEING NONE. LET'S
MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PROMPT ANY INDIVIDUALS
WEIGHT AND TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
ASSEMBLY BILL 17 42. WE WILL
BEGIN WITH THEM. THANK YOU IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
A B 17 42 PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME. I HAVE NO COMMENTING
, HUGH. THANK YOU, MODERATOR.
LET'S FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS
AND HEAR FROM MANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. FIRST WITNESSES IN
THE HEARING ROOM. SEEING NONE.
LET'S MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING
TO TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
ONCE AGAIN PROMPT ANY SUCH
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY, BILL
17 42, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH
THEM. THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO A B 17 42
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME. I HAVE NO COMMENT.
THANK YOU, MODERATOR. LET'S
BRING THE MATTER BACK TO MY
COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE DIOCESE
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS.
HAS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR LEYVA.
SEEING NO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR
CONCERNS ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S YOU
MAY CLOSE MR CHAIR, RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR MY VOTE PERFECT. SENATOR
LEVIN HAS MOVED THE BILL. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS. WE REFER TO
THE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAYBE 17
42 MOTIONS DO PASS AND REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE AND JUDICIARY.
ROTH ROTH I. MELINDA'S MELINDA'S
NO. ARCHULETTA BATES. BECKER
DODD EGGMAN. EDMUND I HEARD TATO
JONES LEYVA LEVER. I'M IN NEWMAN
KOBOKO PAN. CURRENT VOTE IS 4 TO
1 WILL HOLD THE ROPE AND PERHAPS
SOME MEMBERS, SER SOME REMEMBER
SMITH. THANK YOU SPENT MORE TIME
IN THIS HEARING ROOM THAN SOME
OF US. UM ITEM NUMBER 18
ASSEMBLY BILL 27 28, PLEASE
PROCEED WHEN READY LITTLE BIT
TODAY. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I AM
HERE TO PRESENT A B 27 28.
DESPITE MAJOR REGULATORY EFFORTS
AND THE RISK OF SOME CIVIL
PENALTIES. THE UNLICENSED
CANNABIS INDUSTRY HAS CONTINUED
TO EXPAND. SINCE THE PASSING OF
PROP 64 THOSE GROWS MOSTLY
IMPACT, WROTE PARTS OF THE STATE
OR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
OVERSIGHT AGENCIES STRUGGLED TO
MITIGATE PROBLEMS THAT IT'S
CREATED. THIS BILL WORKS TO
INCREASE THE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
UNLICENSED COMMERCIAL CANNABIS
OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
MAYBE 27 28 WOULD INCREASE THE
STEEPNESS OF EXISTING PENALTIES.
RISING THE FINES FROM 3 TO 4
TIMES THE LICENSING FEE PER DAY.
THESE INCREASES IS NECESSARY AS
THE CURRENT FINDS ARE
INSUFFICIENT. IN SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTY ALONE, ILLEGAL CANNABIS
GROWS HAVE MULTIPLIED BY 200%
SINCE THE PASSING OF PROP 64 THE
LARGEST OF THESE OPERATIONS ARE
ESTIMATED TO BRING IN YEARLY
REVENUE IN THE HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. MEANING THE
CURRENT PENALTIES. FOR A MINOR
EXPENSE. HOWEVER, THE BILL
PROPOSES. IS NOT ONLY TO
PENALIZE PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE TO
SKIRT THE LEGAL MARKET. BUT THE
BOLSTER THE LEGAL MARKET AS
WELL. A B 27 8 28 WOULD ALSO
IMPLEMENT AN AMNESTY PROVISION.
TO INCENTIVIZE COMPLIANCE FOR
LICENSING REQUIREMENTS UNDER
EXISTING LAW. THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA LITTER VOICES BE
HEARD AND CHOSE TO DECRIMINALIZE
CANNABIS. I SUPPORT THAT CHOICE
. HOWEVER WHAT THEY DIDN'T ASK
FOR IS RAMPANT CULTIVATIONS. IN
AN ILLEGAL MARKET. SUCKING UP
OUR WATER RESOURCES. DESTROYING
THE ENVIRONMENT WITH HER
CHEMICALS AND PUTTING OUR
COMMUNITY AT RISK. WITHOUT I
ASKED FOR I VOTE. AND I HAVE ON
THE PHONE NICOLE WALDERMAN. IS
MY WITNESS. OKAY? SWIRLING,
PLEASE PROCEED. SIT AFTERNOON
CHAIRMAN, RUSSIAN MEMBERS NICOLE
WORLD NÀN ON BEHALF OF ANTHONY
TONY, SPONSOR OF HB 27 28. OVER
THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS,
THOUSANDS OF HOLISTIC CANNABIS
CULTIVATION OPERATIONS HAVE RUN
RAMPANT IN SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTY, SPENCER THE SAN
BERNARDINO COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT HAS HAD TO IMPLEMENT
OPERATION HAMMER STRIKES. THE
COUNTY IS SPECIAL OPERATIONS
COMBAT LARGE GROWS WITHIN SAN
BERNARDINO, TONY INVESTING
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO
PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS THE SOLUTION
. HUMAN TRAFFICKING, FIREARMS
AND PUBLIC SAFETY RISKS
ACCOMPANYING BALLISTIC CANNABIS
FARMS. AS OF APRIL. 10
BERNARDINO COUNTY SHERIFF'S NOW
HAVE ERADICATED FOR 5000 ILLEGAL
OPENING HOUSES WITHIN THE
COUNTY. 858 SEARCH FORUM,
LOCATED AND ARRESTED 890 SUSPECT
MORE THAN ONE MILLION PLANT.
MORE THAN £100,000 OF PROCESS,
AN ABYSS. 60,000 G OF
CONCENTRATED CANNABIS WHO HAD 67
10 165 G OF METHAMPHETAMINE AND
44,000 G OF MUSHROOMS. AND THIS
IS OVER THE LAST YEAR. I
COULDN'T FIND SUCCESS FOR LEGAL
CANNABIS CULTIVATION HAS NOT
PROVEN EFFECTIVE IN COMBATING
THE ILLEGAL KIND OF THE
SMARTEST. ITS OPERATIONS ARE
FINANCIALLY SOLVENT, DOMESTIC OR
ANY SIGNS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR
THIS FIND STRUCTURE FOR LICIT
GROWTH, INCREASING THE CIVIL
PENALTIES FURTHER DISCOURAGE
ILLEGAL CANNABIS FARM. WE ARE
WORKING WITH THE SENATE
JUDICIARY. AMERICAN VULTAN ON
LANGUAGE ADDRESS INSIDE THE
HOUSE. THE AMNESTY PROVISION
WOULD WORK. SPECIFICALLY THE
DOCUMENTATION RELATED LICENSING
AND THE TIMEFRAME UNDERWOOD
PROVIDING AMNESTY OPERATOR WHO
IS ENTERING THE LEGAL MARKET
MAKES SENSE AND IT'S FEASIBLE.
WE HAVE, ADDITIONALLY RESET THE
DCC FOR THEIR INPUT ON THESE
SPECIFIC AMENDMENT. WE URGE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS SUPPORT 80 27
28 TO ASSIST AND REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF BALLISTIC CANNABIS
THEY LIKE ACROSS THE STATE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW, LET'S
HEAR FROM ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN THE HEARING ROOM
AND SUPPORT SER. JOHN LOVELL ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
NARCOTIC OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
THIS IS A GOOD SENSE, BILL AND
WE'RE STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF IT.
WE COMMEND THE AUTHOR FOR
BRINGING IT FORWARD. THANK YOU
FOR JOINING US ANY OTHER
WITNESSES HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM AND SUPPORT SEEING NONE.
LET'S MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING
TO TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PROMPT ANY SUCH
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT. OF ASSEMBLY BILL 27
28 WILL BEGIN WITH THEM. THANK
YOU IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF A B 27 28, PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THE TIME. I HAD NO
COMMENTS IN HEELS. THANK YOU,
MODERATOR. NOW LET'S FOLLOW THE
SAME PROCESS AND HEAR FROM ANY
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. IT'S
MOVED OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN
THE HEARING ROOM. SEEING. NONE
LET'S MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING
TO TESTIFY VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE.
MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
PROMPT ANY SUCH INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION
TO ASSEMBLY BILL 27 28 WILL
CONTINUE WITH THEM. THANK YOU IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
TO 18 27 28 PRESS 10 AT THIS
TIME. I HAVE NO COMMENTS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MODERATOR. LET'S
NOT BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK TO
MY COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE DAIS,
COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
CONCERNS. BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
LEYVA. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS
OR CONCERNS? NEWMAN SORRY I
UNDERSTAND FROM THE TESTIMONY
ASSEMBLYMAN THAT YOU ARE GOING
TO TRY AND KIND OF A LINE THE
TIMELINES FOR UH, AMNESTY FOR
MAKING GOOD ON SOMEBODY'S
LICENSED THROUGH? YES, BECAUSE
THE LICENSE FEES SOMETIMES IT
MIGHT TAKE THEM SIX OR NINE
MONTHS TO GET IT, AND WE JUST
DON'T WANT IT TO GO WAIT THAT
LONG, BUT APPRECIATE IF THAT'S
THE CASE, GLAD TO SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU QUESTIONS. SO
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR LEYVA
SOME REMEMBER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE THE ASK FOR MY VOTE? THANK
YOU IS DUE PAST THREE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. EVERY 27
28 MOTION IS DO PASS AND
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE AND
JUDICIARY. ROUGH I MELINDA'S
FROM LINDA'S AYE ARCHULETTA
BATES BECKER. DODD. EGGMAN.
EDMUND I HEARD TAITO JONES
LABOR. NEVER I'M N NEWMAN KOBO
PAN. LITTLE HAS FIVE VOTES WILL
HOLD THE ROPE AND PERHAPS SOME
MEMBERS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
YOUR PATIENCE, SER.
SOME REMEMBER SANTIAGO. IF
YOU'RE READY, WE WILL TAKE UP
ITEM NUMBER SIX. ITEM NUMBER SIX
IS ASSEMBLY BILL 18 81 ANIMAL
WELFARE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING
US. PROCEED WHEN READY. THANK
YOU, MR SHERIFF FOR TAKING US A
LITTLE BIT EARLIER, MUCH
APPRECIATED. AH A B 18 81 WOULD
CREATE AN EDUCATIONAL NOTICE
REQUIREMENTS OF POTENTIAL
ADOPTERS OF DOGS OR CATS WOULD
KNOW WHERE THEIR PETS HOW THEIR
PETS SHOULD BE TREATED. IT'S
REALLY A SIMPLE BILL. WHAT WE'RE
ASKING HERE TO DO IS TO CREATE
AN EDUCATION AWARENESS PROCESS,
AND THIS NOTICE COULD BE DONE
PRETTY SIMPLY, IT COULD BE
POSTING OUR FACILITIES WEBSITE.
IT COULD BE IN THE FACILITY OR
AN ADOPTION APPLICATION. UM AND
BASICALLY SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT WOULD BE COVERED IN THE
NOTICE. OUR EDUCATION PROCESS
THAT WOULD TELL US THAT THE DOG
SHOULD BE FREE FROM EXPLOITATION
, CRUELTY OR ABUSE. THIS IS JUST
HAVE EXERCISE TO HAVE CLEAN
WATER. AH THAT THEY SHOULD BE
IDENTIFIED THROUGH A TAG
MICROCHIP OR ANY OTHER HUMANE AH
MEANS THAT IT SHOULD BE SPAYED
OR NEUTERED. SO BASICALLY, WE'RE
ASKING IS TO BE ABLE TO PUT THIS
ADOPTION AGENCY OR RESCUE,
SHELTER OR RESCUE OR SHELTER.
SHOULD NOT DO THIS.THEY HAVE 60
DAYS TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM. UH
MR CHAIR. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
MY VOTE. SORRY ABOUT THE
STUTTERING. MY MASK IS GETTING
IN THE WAY I REALIZED. THANK
YOU, SIR. I'VE BEEN STUTTERING
ALL DAY. I GOTTA GET YOU HAVE
WITNESSES. I UNDERSTAND MY
UNDERSTANDING. YES WE DO HAVE
WITNESSES WILL ALSO BE BRIEF. AH
WE HAVE NICHOLAS SOCKET FROM
SOCIAL COMPASSION LEGISLATION IN
PERSON. AND THEN WE HAVE JUDY
MONCADA. SO FOR ALSO FROM THE
SAME ORGANIZATION VIA PHONE. MR
SECOND. PLEASE PROCEED.
REMEMBER? 33 33 MINUTES TOTAL
PER SIDE. GREAT THANK YOU. CHAIR
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS NICHOLAS
SOCKET DIRECTOR AT SOCIAL
COMPASSION AND LEGISLATION. I'D
LIKE TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHY
THIS BILL IS NEEDED. SHEBA A DOG
THAT WAS KEPT IN LOS ANGELES AND
CONSTANTLY CONFINED TO A SMALL,
BARREN MAKESHIFT PEN AT THE SIDE
OF THE HOUSE WITH SOLID WALLS ON
THREE SIDES OF THE PEN. SHE WAS
OBSERVED IN THIS PEN AT ALL
HOURS OF THE DAY NIGHT AROUND
THE CLOCK SEEMINGLY NEVER
BROUGHT INDOORS, NOT EVEN DURING
RECORD BREAKING WINTER STORMS
EXPERIENCED IN 2018 19, OR
DURING THUNDERSTORMS. HEAT OR
HIGH WINDS. SHE WAS NEVER SEEN
BEING WALKED OR EXERCISE. AND
ACCORDING TO EYEWITNESSES, THE
ONLY TIME SHE WAS NOT COMPLETELY
ISOLATED AND ALONE. WAS DURING
THE SHORT TIME THAT IT TOOK FOR
HER OWNER TO PLACE FOOD IN HER
PEN. SHEBA WAS KEPT ISOLATED IN
THIS WAY FOR YEARS. SADLY.
EVERYTHING THAT SHE HAD ENDURED
WAS NOT AGAINST THE LAW. SHE GOT
FOOD AND WATER AND WAS
TECHNICALLY SHELTERED. CREATING
CRIMINAL LAW. PROHIBITING THESE
CONDITIONS IS VERY DIFFICULT OR
NEAR IMPOSSIBLE. THAT IS NOT
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FROM YOU TODAY
, BUT WHAT WE ARE ASKING AND
WHAT THIS BILL DOES. IS PUT THE
SPOTLIGHT ON THE EMOTIONAL,
PHYSICAL AND MENTAL NEEDS OF
DOGS AND CATS, SO THAT POTENTIAL
ADOPTERS ARE BETTER INFORMED AND
SO THAT HOPEFULLY, ANIMALS DO
NOT FIND THEMSELVES IN THE SAME
CONDITIONS AS SHEBA. ALSO WOULD
LIKE TO SAY THAT MANY SHELTERS
WHO MEAN SOCIETIES AND RESCUES
ARE EDUCATING THEIR POTENTIAL
ADOPTERS. WE APPLAUD THOSE DOING
GREAT WORK IN THE SPACE. THIS
LAW HOPES TO ENSURE ALL OF THESE
KINDS OF ENTITIES ARE FOLLOWING
SUIT BECAUSE SOME ARE NOT MORE
ALSO SAYING THAT THIS
LEGISLATURE RECOGNIZES THESE
IMPORTANT NEEDS WITH THAT
RESPECTFULLY ASTERN. I VOTE.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND JURY.
MANCUSO ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
DIFFERENT. I AM. CAN YOU HEAR
ME? OK WELL, I SAY YES. RIGHT
NOW. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT. MHM SPECIAL COMPASSION
DISPLACED IT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING
ON LEGISLATION TO HELP OUR STATE
STOCKS. 2000 AND SIX WITHOUT
LOSS TEST THAT ALLOWS DETAINED
OFFICERS PROVIDER FROM CARS. WE
TAKE THE COURSE REQUIRE ANIMAL
POLICE RECEPTORS CREATED
APPROPRIATE AND FUNDING SPORTS.
ALTHOUGH CAUSE AND MIGHT EVEN
MAKE IT, STATES OFFICIALS SAY.
HEY MAYBE 18 80 YOU WANT AN
EDUCATIONAL BILL THAT I WILL
TASTE OF DR BRONSON PIECE, OF
COURSE, HAVE TO GET ON. CARE
ABOUT TESTING 80 18 81. WE WILL
PROTECT US IN 3 30 CHANCES OF
FINDING THAT FOREVER HOME AND
SAYING SENATE, NOT A HEAVY LIFT.
THIS IS JUST A VERY STEP FORWARD
, BUT WE HOPE TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE WITH IT BECAUSE THE
ALTERNATIVE IS CREATING A NEW
CRIME, WHICH NO ONE HAS THE
APPETITE ARE AT THE CAPITOL.
BECAUSE IT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW LET'S
HEAR FROM ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT IN THE
HEARING ROOM. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IN THE
HEARING ROOM SIGNAL DONE, LET'S
MOVE TO WITNESSES WAITING TO
TESTIFY VIA TELECONFERENCE
SERVICE. MODERATOR IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PROMPT THE INDIVIDUALS
WAITING TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT.
OF ASSEMBLY BILL 18 81, WE WILL
BEGIN WITH THEM. THANK YOU IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
ÁP 18 81, PLEASE PRESS ONE AND
ZERO AT THIS TIME. START WITH
LINE 65, PLEASE GO AHEAD. FIVE
AND 65. NEXT, PLEASE. I HAVE NO
FURTHER COMMENTS AND HEELS.
THANK YOU, MODERATOR. NOW LET'S
FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS IN HERE
FROM ANY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION FIRST WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION IN THE HEARING ROOM.
SEEING NONE. LET'S MOVE TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE.
MODERATOR ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE PROMPT AND HE'S
SUCH INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. T
ASSEMBLY BILL 18 81, WE WILL
CONTINUE WITH THEM. THANK YOU IF
YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
TO BE 18 81 PRESS 10 AT THIS
TIME. LINE 65. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. YEAH. OKAY? CARRYING 65.
PLEASE PROCEED REAL QUICK. THIS
IS NOT RUB STATES. FORTUNATELY,
YOU KNOW BEFORE YOU AND RESPECT
WE HAVE. SIR THANK YOU. I HAVE
ONE FURTHER COMMENT A MOMENT FOR
THAT COMMENT. HI. CAN YOU HEAR
ME? YES BUT MAKE SURE THAT
YOU'RE OPEN. YES. MAKE SURE THAT
YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING. HELLO MAKE
SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING ON
THE SPEAKER PHONE AND YOU SPEAK
DIRECTLY INTO THE MOUTHPIECE
BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING VERY, VERY
DIFFICULT TIME. HEARING THE
SPEAKERS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE GATHER ALL THE
INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE TO
PROVIDE, SO PLEASE PROCEED.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BILL
TUCKER AND I MISSED CEO
CALIFORNIA ANIMAL WELFARE
ASSOCIATION. WE REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON TEST.
UBER REPRESENTS MORE THAN 230
SHELTERS AND ANIMALS TRULY LIVE
AND I WANT TO START BY THANKING
ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR GENUINE
DESIRE TO HELP ANIMALS.
CALIFORNIA THERE ARE A LOT OF
ANIMAL OF THIS IN THE SENATE,
AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. WE
ARE IN OPPOSITION OF ÁP 18 81,
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ANY
SORT OF MEANINGFUL THAT HELP THE
PRACTICES LUCIDLY TARGETS.
pTHE RECENT WIDER. IN FACT,
STATISTICALLY. SADLY MOST PEOPLE
MORE THAN TWO THIRDS ARE GETTING
THAT CUSTOMER FORCES AND IF
ANYONE NEEDS CERTIFICATION ON
HOW TO DEAL WITH POSSIBLE
PARENTS, PROBABLY THE FOLKLIFE
FRANKLIN. NOTHING TARGET PLACES
THAT WAS GENERAL PUBLIC
CLASSIFIED, TRULY HELP. ADD
FURTHER INSULT RECENTLY AMENDED
FOR MORE AGGRESSIVE AND FORCE
MINT AGAINST SHELTER. WAS THAT
REALLY NECESSARY IDEA THAT BAD
AND DOING IT WRONG AND HE SHOULD
BE PUNISHED? THEY DON'T HIRE ON
THEIR WALL. BUT NOW, THE VERY
PEOPLE SYSTEM HARDEST IMAGINE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OURSELVES
FOR WORKERS, CANADA DOCTOR'S
KINDNESS AND RESPECT THEY
DESERVE FOR THOSE LIVING
ACCIDENT. CAN BE USED FOR
SHELTER. PLEASE DON'T WASTE
LEGISLATIVE FREE SOURCES PASSING
A BILL. THAT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT
THAT'S NOTHING. WE RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST THE NO VOTE ON THE
EIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK
YOU, MA'AM. BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE
LINE, JUST AS A MATTER OF
DIAGNOSTICS. ARE YOU USING A
CELL PHONE OR LANDLINE? CELL
PHONE. OKAY THANK YOU WERE JUST
HAVING DIFFICULT TIME HEARING
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHO'S CALLING IN WITH WHAT
TO SEE WHAT'S BETTER, IF
ANYTHING, SO THANK YOU
APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. BUTTER
MODERATOR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION ON THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE? CLIENTS. 66
PLEASE GO AHEAD. LINE 66 YEAR
OPEN THESE GO AHEAD. I HAVE NO
COMMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MODERATOR. NOW LET'S BRING THE
DISCUSSION BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES
ON THE DIETS, COLLEAGUES ANY
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS?
SO IT'S ONLY REMEMBER SANTIAGO
APPRECIATE FULLY WHAT YOU'RE
ENDEAVORING TO DO HERE, BUT I
ALSO TAKE SERIOUSLY THE HUMANE
SOCIETY AND THE CALIFORNIA
ANIMAL WELFARE ASSOCIATIONS.
CRITIQUE WHICH I GUESS IS
TWOFOLD. ONE IS THAT THIS IS A
SOLUTION. SEARCH OF A PROBLEM.
AND THEN THE SECOND RELATES
DIRECTLY TO THE PENALTIES. SO IF
I COULD START WITH THE SECOND
THROUGH THE CHAIR, SO WHAT WAS
THE BASIS FOR THE AMENDMENT THAT
ADDS THE MONETARY PENALTIES FOR
NOT POSTING THE SO CALLED BILL
OF RIGHTS. WELL WE WELL, WE'VE
TAKEN AMENDMENTS TO THE WHOLE
PROCESS. I MEAN THE ENTIRE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THERE, SOME
WHO ARGUED EARLIER THAT SHOULD
BE STRONGER AND IT WAS, BUT
WE'VE TAKEN AMENDMENTS THE
ENTIRE RELIGIOUS PROCESS. BUT
WHAT WHAT? WHAT? WHEN WE TOOK
THE 60 DAYS IN THE $250 FINE.
THE 60 DAYS WAS TO BE ABLE TO
CORRECT THE PROBLEM SO THAT IF
SO THAT IF I WALK INTO A SHELTER
TODAY, THEY DON'T HAVE THE
SIGNAGE THAT DETERMINES THAT
THEY DON'T PUT IT ON THEIR
WEBSITE, OR THEY DON'T HAVE
ANYWHERE IN THEIR ADOPTION. THEY
HAVE 60 DAYS TO BE ABLE TO FIX
THAT, SO THAT IT GIVES LEEWAY.
SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T JUST FIND
IMMEDIATELY WHEN YOU WALK IN SO
IT'S YEAH, BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME
LIKE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH THE
ORIGINAL PRESCRIPTION, WHICH IS
THE NEED FOR THE SIGNS. THE
ARGUMENT IS MORE GENERALLY THAT
THAT YOU KNOW THAT TO THEIR
POINT THAT SHELTERS ACCOUNT FOR
ROUGHLY WHAT A THIRD OF
ADOPTIONS AND THEY'RE PROBABLY
NOT THE BAD ACTORS IN THIS
INDUSTRY. WHY MAKE THIS A
PUNITIVE REGIME FOR WHAT IS
ARGUABLY THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF
THE BETTER SPACES. FOR ANIMAL
CARE AND ADOPTION. UH, YOU KNOW,
PROMOTION. WE PICKED A NARROW
AREA WHERE WE WHERE WE THINK WE
CAN HAVE AN IMPACT. I MEAN, IN
THE REALITY IS, UM QUITE FRANKLY
, I DON'T SEE REALLY WHAT?
THERE'S ANY REASON TO OPPOSE IF
WE'RE JUST ASKING THEM TO PUT UP
A SIGN THAT SAYS THESE ARE THE
THINGS YOU OUGHT TO DO TO BE A
RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER, AND WE'VE
GIVEN HIM THREE DIFFERENT WAYS
TO DO IT. YOU COULD EITHER
HANDED OUT AT THE ADOPTION YOU
CAN PUT UP A SIGN OR YOU CAN PUT
IT UP ON THE WEBSITE. UM WE FEEL
THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO EDUCATE
FOLKS WHEN THEY WHEN THEY
ADOPTED NEW, UM PET, A MEMBER OF
THE FAMILY THAT THEY OUGHT TO DO
CERTAIN THINGS. SO THIS IS THE
AREA THAT WE PICKED TO WORK ON.
IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO CALL
IT, BUT WE FEEL THAT WE CAN HAVE
AN IMPACT. IT'S WHERE RESCUE
ANIMALS ARE ADOPTED ITS
SHELTERS. OR OUR ADOPTION
AGENCIES. SO IT IS, UM. I MEAN,
WE CAN MAKE IT WIDER, BUT THIS
IS WHERE I'M NOT SURE THAT'S
WHAT THE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE
LOOKING FOR. SO I'M WONDERING IF
THIS IS THERE AN AMENDABLE
POSITION HERE. SO IF EITHER OF
THE FOLKS WHO SPOKE IN
OPPOSITION ONLINE I'D ASK THE
QUESTION OF THEM. IS THERE AN
AMENDABLE? AH SORT OF
OPPORTUNITY HERE. EITHER MR
ROBINSON OR GO AHEAD THE SPEAKER
FROM THE ANIMAL WELFARE
ASSOCIATION. WITH YOU, UM, THE
AMENDMENT THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED
AS BEING HELPFUL FOR THIS WOULD
BE CONCLUSIVE. INCLUDING POSTING
AT RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT
PROCESSES SO IT'S REALLY DRIVING
WHERE THIS MESSAGE IS LOCATED,
REMOVING THE PENALTY. AND THEN
WE ALSO ASKED THAT THEY
ELIMINATE THE REFERENCE ABUSE IN
ANYTHING IN THE DECORATION OF
THE WAY THAT IS WORDED SHELTERS
ARE ESSENTIALLY A PLACE WHERE
ACCOUNTABLE ASIDE AND. ON BEHALF
OF OUR INDUSTRY THAT HAS WORKED
SO HARD TO SAVE SO MANY LIVES
OVER HAS DECADES THAT HAVE
TURNED INTO WONDERFUL RESOURCE
CENTERS FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
LEGISLATION CHARACTERIZED
HELPERS AND PATHWAY. THINK ABOUT
THAT SHOULD THANK YOU. MR
SANTIAGO. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND
LIKE IS THAT IS THERE AN
OPPORTUNITY THERE TO MEET THEM
HALFWAY OR BETTER? I MEAN, MAY I
ANSWER MR CHAIR? YES, PLEASE. I
REALIZED I WAS ANSWERING BEFORE
ASKING THE CHAIR. UM WELL, I
THINK THE I THINK HAVING RETAIL
ESTABLISHMENT ESTABLISHMENTS
POST WOULD BE A DIFFERENT BILL.
UM, BUT I'M SURE BUT WHY? THIS
IS A PLACE WHERE WE'VE WHERE WE
WHERE WE DECIDED WE WOULD START
. BUT BUT AGAIN IF WE ACCEPT THE
NUMBERS RIGHT THAT THAT SHELTERS
ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE CHANNEL
FOR, UH YOU KNOW, THE ADOPTION
MAN WAS WHY WHY START THERE?
AGAIN WHERE ARGUABLY THIS IS NOT
THE AREA WHERE MOST IN NEED OF
REPAIR OR IMPROVEMENT. GO AHEAD.
MR. SHOCK IT. LIKE. HELLO YES,
SO YOU CAN'T SELL PETS IN RETAIL
PET SHOPS IN CALIFORNIA. UM BUT
IF ANIMALS ARE GOING TO BE
ADOPTED OUT OF THOSE FACILITIES,
THEY HAVE TO DO IT IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH A SHELTER WITH
THE HUMANE SOCIETY OR WITH THE
RESCUE. SO THOSE ENTITIES THAT
COME INTO A RETAIL STORE ARE
GOING TO BE COVERED UNDER THIS
LAW. SO WHILE A RETAIL STORE
WON'T PER SE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE
LAW IF THEY'RE PARTNERING, WHICH
THEY SHOULD THEY UNDER THE LAW
WITH THESE OTHER GROUPS. THING.
THAT'S HOW THOSE KIND OF
ADOPTIONS WILL BE COVERED. AND
WHAT ABOUT BREEDERS? BREEDERS
ARE VERY HARD TO, UH REGULATE.
IN FACT, WE HAVE TRIED IN THIS
LEGISLATURE TO PUT SOME
REGULATIONS AROUND BREEDING. IT
HAS BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT THING.
TO GET THROUGH. THESE COMMITTEES
, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE
WERE CERTAINLY BE OPEN TO OKAY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO IT STARTS
TO SOUND TO ME. UM YOU KNOW,
LIKE YOU'RE SAYING SOMEBODY
EFFECT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A
PROBLEM. WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO
SOLVE IT, SO WE'LL START. HERE
WHERE IT'S EASIEST, BUT
ARGUABLY, IT'S NOT THE MOST
IMPACTFUL, SO I STILL HAVE THE
SAME CONCERNS ABOUT THE BILLS I
DID BEFORE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
OKAY? THEY'RE AWFUL WHERE WE
CAN'T. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
WHOEVER THAT IS, I WANT TO TRY
AGAIN. I DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS
ASKED A QUESTION. MISS MANCUSO.
MS. THE SOCKET CAN PROBABLY. I
DON'T KNOW. I'M GOOD. WELL,
THAT'S UM ANY ANYTHING FURTHER,
MR NEWMAN? THANK MADAM VICE
CHAIR PATIENT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH, MR CHAIRMAN, SO I LISTENED
TO THE TESTIMONY OF YOUR
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT AND
DESCRIBING THE TERRIBLE
CONDITIONS. IN WHICH THE PET HE
WAS DESCRIBING LIVED IN WHAT I
DON'T UNDERSTAND IS ARE YOU
SUGGESTING THAT BY A SHELTER
POSTING THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT
POSTED THAT SOMEONE. LIKE THAT.
WHO? TREATED THEIR PET THAT WAY
WOULD SUDDENLY CHANGE THEIR
BEHAVIOR. I MEAN, BECAUSE IF YOU
ARE SOMEONE WHO IS INCLINED TO
MISTREAT AN ANIMAL YOU'RE
PROBABLY GOING TO DO THAT,
WHETHER THERE'S A SIGN POSTED OR
NOT, BECAUSE YOU'RE A HORRIBLE
PERSON, AND I JUST DON'T SEE HOW
THIS SIGN IS GOING TO CHANGE
THAT BEHAVIOR AND I DON'T SEE
HOW FINDING THE SHELTER. WOULD
IMPROVE THE SITUATION. SO IS
THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT
PUTTING UP THIS BILL OF RIGHTS
WOULD SOMEHOW SOMEONE WOULD WALK
IN AND SAY, OH, WELL. I MEAN, I
WASN'T GOING TO FEED MY DOG
EVERY DAY. BUT NOW I WILL.
MANSOUR. YES, PLEASE. I THINK IT
HELPS TO EDUCATE ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY SO IF YOU'RE GONNA GO
IN AND RESCUE A DOG, I THINK YOU
SHOULD. YOU SHOULD BE EDUCATED
ON WHAT IT TAKES TO BE
RESPONSIBLE PET FAMILY, SO I DO
THINK IT HELPS. OKAY SO, BUT YOU
DON'T THINK THAT SOMEONE WHO IS
GOING TO ADOPT A PET. THEY DON'T
ALREADY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY
SHOULD HAVE CLEAN WATER THAT
THEY SHOULD HAVE CLEAN FOOD THAT
THEY SHOULD TREAT THEM. WELL,
THAT THEY I MEAN. WELL WE JUST
HAVE A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW,
BUT I DO THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE
NEED TO BE EDUCATED. OKAY. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. SENATOR MAN. UM SO
I WOULD SAY I SHARE SOME OF THE
SKEPTICISM EXPRESSED BY MY
COLLEAGUES ABOUT YOU KNOW HOW
MUCH GOOD INFORMATION WILL DO,
BUT UM I GUESS I DON'T. I SEE IT
IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY. I CAN'T
SEE HOW THIS HURTS. IT'S A
RELATIVELY DIM MINIMUS
REQUIREMENT. UH AND YOU KNOW,
LIKE I CAME FROM AN IMMIGRANT
FAMILY, LIKE MY PARENTS HAD
NEVER OWNED PETS AS KIDS. UM AND
I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS LIKE NEW
INFORMATION TO THEM, BUT YOU
KNOW, THERE ARE NORMS THAT WE
THINK OF AS BEING COMMON TO ALL
AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT
YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE, FRANKLY,
LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM
DIFFERENT CULTURES MIGHT NOT
HAVE. AND SO WHEN WE GOT OUR
FIRST DOG, WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW
WHAT TO DO WITH IT. WE DIDN'T WE
DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THE NORMS. WE
HAD A LOOK AT. THIS IS BEFORE
THE INTERNET, OF COURSE, BUT YOU
KNOW, I HAD TO LOOK A LOT OF IT
UP. SO AGAIN, I THINK
INFORMATION COULD BE HELPFUL
BECAUSE THIS IS A RELATIVELY
BENIGN REQUIREMENT THAT COULD
POTENTIALLY DO A LOT OF GOOD.
I'M NOT A PSYCHOLOGIST. I DON'T
PRETEND TO UNDERSTAND SOCIOLOGY
OR HOW THIS MIGHT ULTIMATELY
IMPACT GROUP BEHAVIOR. BUT IF WE
CAN HELP IN ANY WAY, YOU KNOW,
WITH AGAIN A REQUIREMENT THAT
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE BALANCE
BETWEEN THE REQUIREMENTS ON THE
SHELTERS AND THE POTENTIAL GOOD
IT MIGHT DO ANIMALS, I THINK I
LEAN TOWARDS THIS, SO I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL AND I WOULD
URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER
THAT AS WELL. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS?
YOU KNOW, SIR, I FOR ONE. DON'T
TO SEE HARM AND GIVING SOMEONE A
NOTICE OR POSTING IT AS TO HOW
TO TAKE CARE OF DOGS AND CATS
AND FRANKLY, OTHER ANIMALS. THE
THING THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE
BIT IS THE IS THE FINE AND
PENALTY MECHANISM WHEN WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT OF HUMANE
SOCIETIES AND. SHELTERS AND
RESCUE GROUPS. AND WHILE THE
FINE ISN'T A LOT OF MONEY MY
PERCEPTION IS MANY OF THOSE
GROUPS DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY
AND DEPEND ON DONATIONS. FROM
PEOPLE LIKE ME AND MY COLLEAGUE
TO THE RIGHT OF ME WITH FOUR
LITTLE CREATURES AT HOME. LOVE
TO KEEP THE DOORS OPEN. SO I'M
GOING TO SUPPORT YOUR BILL. BUT
I'D CERTAINLY ASKED THAT YOU
TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE FINE
AND PENALTY PROVISION BECAUSE
I'M NOT SURE THAT THOSE ARE
ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. GIVEN THE
GIVEN THE POPULATION THAT YOU'RE
DEALING WITH HERE, RESCUE GROUPS
HUMANE SOCIETIES. SHELTERS THAT
ARE INTERESTED IN TAKING CARE OF
PETS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY
GET TO THE RIGHT HOMES WITH THE
RIGHT PEOPLE. AND DON'T KEEP
COMING BACK. AND RISKING
EUTHANASIA. AT SOME PUBLIC
FACILITIES, SO IT'S JUST MY
COMMENT ON THE ON THE ISSUE. DO
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE BILL?
CENTER DODD. I'M GONNA SUPPORT
THIS TODAY. BUT TO THE
CHAIRMAN'S POINT, UH, I THINK
YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH
HIS FILES. I DON'T THINK THOSE
ARE THE PEOPLE YOU NEED TO BE
FINDING. UH I DON'T LIKE THIS
BILL, FRANKLY, ON A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT LEVELS. BUT I DON'T
SEE THE HARM YOU KNOW, AS THE AS
THE CHAIR SAID, I JUST THINK
IT'S YOU GET TO A POINT. YOU
KNOW, I'LL GO ALONG WITH IT. BUT
WHEN IT COMES BACK ON THE FLOOR
, I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO, YOU
KNOW, TO CHANGE MY MIND IF THERE
IF THIS PROVISION STILL ON THE
BILL, MR GOOD SOMEBODY ELSE. I'M
SORRY, MR CHAIRMAN. WHERE DOES
THIS BILL GO? AFTER HERE IF IT
PRESSES THIS COMMITTEE WE
REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON
JUDICIARY JUDICIARY. SO IF I MAY
SO ASSEMBLY MEMBER SANTIAGO WAS
LIKE, ARE YOU ARE YOU WILLING TO
CONSIDER YOU WILLING TO COMMIT
TO THAT CHANGE TO EITHER
ELIMINATING OR REDUCING THOSE
FINES? I'LL COMMIT TO TALKING
ABOUT IT. I'M NOT GOING TO
COMMIT WITHOUT HAVING A ROBUST
CONVERSATION. BUT LOOK HERE.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT BELIEVE WE'VE
HAD A ROBUST CONVERSATION HERE,
SIR. LOOK WE THAT'S WHY WE PUT
THE TIME AND PLACE SO THAT
YOU'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PUT ON
IS IT IS IT THREE MONTHS OR IS
IT FOUR MONTHS? UH, I'M WILLING
TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. I
SUSPECT THE REASON IT'S GOING TO
JUDICIARY IS DEFINED CIVIL
FINDING PENALTY SECTION BUT YES
, MR MR THREE MONTHS OR FOUR
MONTHS. DO YOU WANT TO SAY THINK
THAT ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS
IS NOT GOING TO POST THIS? AND
THEN THERE WOULDN'T BE A FINE.
OKAY, UM. SEEING NO OTHER
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS
. SOME REMEMBER. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
MY VOTE. OKAY SIR, DO WE HAVE A
MOTION ON SOME? WE BUILT 18 81.
SENATOR DODD MOVED SENATOR
EDMUND MOVES. SENATOR EGGMAN HAS
MOVED THE BILL. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS FOR YOUR FOR THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. A B 18 81 MOTION
IS DO PASS AND REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY. BROUGH.
AYE. WELL I'M MELINDA'S
MELINDA'S NO ARCHULETTA. BATES.
BECKER. BECKER I DODD GOT I
EGGMAN. EDMUND. I HEARD TATO.
JONES. JONES, NO LABOR. BY
LABOR. I MEN, MAN. I NEWMAN
NEWMAN. I KOBOKO HAND. THE VOTE
IS 7 TO 2 WILL HOLD THE ROAD
OPEN FOR ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE
GOING TO OPEN THE WE'RE GOING TO
OPEN THE ROLE. FOR THOSE OF YOU
WHO HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO
VOTE ON SOME OF THE ITEMS. UM
SOME REMEMBER, HOLDEN IS
FINISHING UP PRESENTATION AND I
THINK HIS LAST BILL AND IT'S
SIMPLY HEALTH AND HUMANS ARE
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. AND
HE WILL BE DONE DIRECTLY. SO
LET'S OPEN THE ROLE, STARTING
WITH FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE. FILE
ITEM NUMBER ONE A B 646 CURRENT
VOTE IS 7 TO 0. MELINDA'S.
ARCHULETTA. DODD. DODD? AYE.
EGGMAN. SIGMUND I HER TATO.
JONES. 6% JONES. I PAN. SO THE
CURRENT VOTE IS 10 0 WILL HOLD
THE ROLL OPEN. PERHAPS, AND
MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER TWO A B 10
14. ITEM NUMBER TWO A. B 10 14
CURRENT VOTERS 6 TO 1.
MELINDA'S. ARCHULETTA. DODD. DOT
I EGGMAN AND I HEARD TATO JONES.
JONES. NO. PHð BUG. CURRENT VOTE
IS 822 WILL HOLD THE ROLL OPEN
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER
THREE ASSEMBLY BUILT 16 32. AND
NUMBER THREE EVERY 16 32 CURRENT
VOTERS, 8 TO 0. MELINDA'S.
ARCHULETTA. DODD. JUST A B 16 32
CURRENT VOTES. 8 TO 0 DODD DOT
AYE. JONES. MEN. PHð BO. CURRENT
VOTE IS 90 WILL HOLD THE ROPE
AND FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. NEXT
ITEM FOLLOW MEMBER NUMBER FOUR
ASSEMBLY BUILT 16 36 CURRENT
VOTE. 10 0 CHEER VOTING I ITEM
NUMBER FOUR A B 16 36 10 TO 0.
MELINDA'S. MELINDA'S I OR CHILE
TO DODD. DOT I ROWBOAT. CURRENT
VOTE IS 12 0 WILL HOLD THE ROLL
OPEN, PERHAPS, AND MEMBERS NEXT
ITEM. ITEM NUMBER FIVE ASSEMBLY
BILL 17 42. CURRENT VOTE 4 TO 1.
YOU'RE VOTING, AYE. ITEM NUMBER
FIVE A B 17 42 4 TO 1.
ARCHULETTA RATES. BECKER.
SPEAKER I DODD. DOT I POTATO.
JONES. JONES. NO. MEN. MEN I
TURBO PAN. CURRENT VOTE 7 TO 2
WILL HOLD THE ROLL OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN FILE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. A
B 18 85 CURRENT VOTE 8 TO 0
CHAIR VOTING AYE. AFTER. SIX I
DON'T NUMBER SEVEN A B 18 85
CURRENT VOTE 8 TO 0 MELINDA'S.
MELINDA'S, AYE. ARCHULETTA. BET
BECKER. BECKER. I DODD. DODD?
AYE, HURTADO. JOB. OH, CURRENT
VOTE, 11 0 WILL HOLD THE ROAD
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS.
SENATOR. WE DIDN'T WE JUST DID.
SIX THE QUESTION YOU WANT. TO
THAT WAS FILE ITEM 7 11 TO 0
CORRECT. YES OKAY. FOLLOW THEM.
EIGHT. A B 18 94. BEEN PULLED.
FILE ITEM NUMBER NINE A B 1901.
VOTE CURRENT VOTE 5 TO 1. SURE
VOTING AYE. I DON'T REMEMBER. 9
18 19 OH ONE CURRENT VOTE 5 TO
1. MELINDA'S. MELINDA'S NO
ARCHULETTA. BATES. BATES? NO
DODD. EGGMAN. SEGMENT. I HEARD
TATO MEN. MAN. I MATURE ABOUT.
CURRENT VOTE 7 TO 3. WILL HOLD
THE ROLL OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. FILE ITEM NUMBER 10 A B
21 78 CURRENT VOTE 70 CHAIR
VOTING AYE. IF I LET HIM NUMBER
10, MAYBE 21 78. FROM VOTE 7 TO
0. MELINDA'S. MELINDA'S IR CHILL
OTTO BECKER. BECKER I DODD DOT
I, EDMUND. EDMUND. I HEARD TATO.
DON'S JONES. AYE. CURRENT VOTE
12 0. WILL HOLD THE ROLL OPEN.
FILE ITEM NUMBER 11 A B 22 10
CURRENT VOTE 70. YOU'RE VOTING,
AYE. FILE FILE. ADAM NUMBER 11
80 22 10 FROM ABOUT 7 TO 0.
MELINDA'S. MELINDA'S NO
ARCHULETTA BATES BATES. SNOW
DODD DOT I EGGMAN. EDMUND. I
HARTARTO. JONES. KOSOVO. CURRENT
VOTE 9 TO 2. COLD WAR ROLL OPEN.
FILE ITEM NUMBER 13 A B 23-14
ONE CURRENT VOTE 10 TO 0 CHAIR
VOTING, AYE. FILE ITEM NUMBER 13
23 41 THE CURRENT VOTE 10 TO 0
MELINDA'S. LINDA'S I ARCHULETTA.
DODD DOT I EGGMAN. SIGMUND AYE.
CURRENT VOTE, 13 0 WILL HOLD THE
ROLL OPEN. ITEM NUMBER 18 A B 27
28. CURRENT VOTE 5 TO 0 CHAIR
VOTING, AYE. I FILE ITEM NUMBER
18 A B 27 28 520 MARCH. ILETO
BATES, I BUCKER. BECKER. I DODD.
DOT I POTATO. JONES. JONES. I
MEN. WOMAN. I TRY ROBO PAN.
CURRENT VOTE, 10 0 WILL HOLD THE
ROLL OPEN. ROBSON MEMBERS
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER 15
MAYBE 25 74. CURRENT VOTE 80
CHAIR VOTING AYE. FILE ITEM
NUMBER 15 A B 25 74 CURRENT VOTE
8 TO 0 MELINDA'S. MELINDA'S AYE,
ARCHULETTA BATES. BATES I DODD
DOT I EGGMAN. SIGMUND I HURTADO.
CURRENT VOTE, 12 0 WILL HOLD THE
ROLL OPEN. ABSENT MEMBERS. CALL
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO. A B 10 14
CURRENT VOTE 8 TO 2 CHAIR
VOTING, AYE. FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWO. MAYBE 10 14. 822 MELINDA'S.
MELINDA'S NO. ARCHULETTA.
POTATO. AND A TURBO. CURRENT
VOTE 8 TO 3. HOLD THE ROLL OPEN.
IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED NUMBER TWO.
WE CALLED IT AGAIN REQUESTED
VICE CHAIR MAYBE 10 14 CURRENT
VOTE 8 TO 3. YES, WE'RE WAITING
ON SOME OF THE MEMBER HOLDING.
WE'RE SO GLAD TO SEE ACTUALLY
ASKED FOR YOUR ARRIVAL. WELCOME
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HOLDEN. YOU'VE
BEEN INCREDIBLY PATIENT. YOU
WERE HERE FOR MOST OF THE
MORNING AND YOU DECIDED TO COME
BACK AND VISIT US AGAIN. THANK
YOU. WELL I CERTAINLY ENJOY
THIS. THE MEMBERS ON THIS
COMMITTEE AND YOU, MR CHAIR, AND
CERTAINLY I APPRECIATE YOU BEING
PATIENT WITH ME AS I FINISHED UP
IN THE OTHER COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW
YOU WE HAD PLENTY TO DO. YOUR
ITEM IS NUMBER 14 ASSEMBLY BILL
25 15, PLEASE PROCEED WHEN READY
. YES, MR CHAIR. I'M PRESENTING
25 15 TO BILL THAT REQUIRES A
PERSON REGISTERED AS A
PROPRIETARY PRIVATE SECURITY
EMPLOYER. TO DELIVER A WRITTEN
REPORT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
CONSUMER AFFAIRS DESCRIBING THE
CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING ANY
PHYSICAL ALTERCATION WITH A
MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC BY
REGISTERED PROPRIETARY PRIVATE
SECURITY OFFICER ACTING WITHIN
THE SCOPE OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT
WITHIN SEVEN BUSINESS DAYS AFTER
THE QUALITY FLYING INCIDENT. AS
YOU MAY RECALL. LAST YEAR I
AUTHORED A B 22 TO 29. WHICH
THIS COMMITTEE PAST 12 0. WITH
OVERWHELMING BIPARTISAN SUPPORT,
AND GOVERNOR NEWSOM SIGNED THAT
REQUIRED PRIVATE PATROL
OPERATORS TO REPORT THE SAME
INFORMATION TO THE D. C. A
THEREFORE, THIS BILL SIMPLY
CLOSES THE LOOP BY NOW REQUIRING
BOTH ENTITIES TO REPORT THIS
INFORMATION FOR GREATER PUBLIC
SAFETY AND TRAINING
OPPORTUNITIES. ADDITIONALLY A B
25 15 WOULD REQUIRE BATON
PERMITS. TO BE ISSUED DIRECTLY
TO LICENSEES BY THE BUREAU OF
SECURITY AND INVESTIGATIVE
SERVICES. THIS BILL WOULD ALIGN
WITH THE ISSUANCE OF THE BATON
PERMIT. WITH THAT OF THE
FIREARMS PERMIT, AS WELL AS ALL
OTHER BUREAU LICENSE TYPES. AS
IT RELATES TO THE OPPONENTS OF
THE BILL. MY OFFICE HAS HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THEM
REGARDING THEIR CONCERNS THAT
THIS BILL WILL PROHIBIT CAMPUS
SAFETY OFFICERS AND INDEPENDENT
NONPROFIT COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES. FROM CARRYING
WEAPONS, INCLUDING FIREARMS,
BATONS, PEPPER SPRAY, STUN GUNS
AND TASERS. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE
THAT THERE IS NOTHING
PREVENTATIVE. PREVENTING ANY OF
THESE INSTITUTIONS FROM
OBTAINING THEIR OWN P P O OR
PRIVATE PATROL OPERATOR LICENSE
AND CONTINUE CONTINUING WITH
BUSINESS AS USUAL, SO THERE IS
STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL
IS SOMEWHAT PUZZLING. GETTING A
P P O LICENSE IS NOT DIFFICULT
OR COMPLICATED. IN THEIR OPPOSE
, UNLESS A MINUTE LETTER THEY
STATE THAT MANY OF THEIR CAMPUS
SAFETY OFFICERS WOULD BE
CONSIDERED PROPRIETARY PRIVATE
SECURITY OFFICERS. THEREFORE
ACCORDING TO BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONAL CODE, 7574.1 IT
CLEARLY STATES THAT A
PROPRIETARY PRIVATE SECURITY
EMPLOYER IS A BUSINESS THAT
EMPLOYS UNARMED SECURITY
OFFICERS TO PROVIDE PRIVATE
SECURITY SERVICES. EXCLUSIVELY
FOR THAT BUSINESS I IN HOUSE
SECURITY. ALTHOUGH WE ARE NOT
PRIVY TO ALL THE FACTS OF HOW
THE OPPOSITION IS RUNNING THEIR
GUARD OPERATION, THEIR STATEMENT
SEEMS TO IMPLY THAT THEY ARE NOT
COMPLYING WITH EXISTING LAW.
SURE AN UNFORTUNATE TRAGEDY
OCCUR AND DEADLY FORCE WAS USED
BY ONE OF THEIR OFFICERS, THERE
COULD BE SIGNIFICANT LEGAL
CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE THEY
WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ARMED IN
THE FIRST PLACE. THEY ARE ASKING
FOR THIS BILL TO BE AMENDED TO
ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO CARRY
WEAPONS WITHOUT THE REQUIRED B S
. I S TRAINING AND LICENSURE
THAT ARMED GUARDS HAVE TO
ATTEND. AND COMPETE AND
COMPLETE. MOREOVER RECOGNIZING
THAT THEY MAY NOT BE IN
COMPLIANCE WITH EXISTING LAW,
THERE'S NOWHERE IN THEIR LETTER
, WHERE THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED
STEPS THAT THEY ARE ATTEMPTING
TO TAKE. TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE
WITH EXISTING LAW. THE OPPONENTS
ALSO DRAW PARALLELS BETWEEN
THEMSELVES AND THE SECURITY ON
CSU AND UC CAMPUSES. HOWEVER,
THE EDUCATION PENAL CODE
RECOGNIZED THAT CSU AND UC
GUARDS ARE CONSIDERED SWORN
PEACE OFFICERS AND HAVE RECEIVED
THE NECESSARY TRAINING TO CARRY
A WEAPON. THE OPPOSITION IS
WELCOME TO ALSO TRY TO GET
EXEMPTIONS THROUGH THE EDUCATION
AND PENAL CODE AS WELL. FINALLY
REPUBLICANS TO SHINS CARRY A
CERTAIN LEVEL INSURANCE AND
ACCOUNTABILITY. WHILE PRIVATE
INSTITUTIONS CARRY INSURANCE AS
WELL. THE FACT IS THAT THESE
PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS COULD
SIMPLY FILED BANKRUPTCY SHOULD
SOMETHING TRAGIC OCCUR. I WILL
CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THE
OPPOSITION SHOULD THIS BILL
ADVANCED FROM THIS COMMITTEE,
BUT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES,
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY
SHOULD BE CARVED OUT OF THE
EXISTING LAW WHILE OTHER ARMED
GUARDS ARE GOING THROUGH THE
RIGOROUS TRAINING REQUIRED TO
CARRY A WEAPON. IN CLOSING. I'D
LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND SUPPORT IS
KELLY JENSEN, WHO I'M NOT SURE.
IS STILL AVAILABLE WITH CARL
SAGAN. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU, SIR. MR.
JENSEN. ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
WELL, LET'S HEAR FROM ANY
WITNESSES. 1000 THANK YOU,
MODERATOR. LET'S NOW HEAR FROM
ANY WITNESSES IN THE HEARING
ROOM WHO MAY BE IN SUPPORT OF
THIS MEASURE. ANY WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT LET'S MOVE TO WITNESSES
WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA TO TALK,
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE AND
SUPPORT MODERATOR. IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE PROMPT ANY SUCH
INDIVIDUALS WAITING, TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF ASSEMBLY BILL 25 15.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH THEM. THANK
YOU IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF ÁP 25 15 PRESS ONE
AND ZERO AT THIS TIME. I DO HAVE
ONE COMMENT IN EUROPE. YOU ONE
MOMENT FOR THAT. THANK YOU.
CLIENTS. 70 PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MR TERMINAL
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
DAVID CHANDLER. I'M PRESIDENT OF
HELL SAGA. A CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF LICENSED SECURITY
AGENCIES, ART ASSOCIATES. WE'VE
BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH
MR BOLTON'S OFFICE. AND WE ARE
IN SUPPORT OF 82 515 HELP. THANK
YOU, SIR. NEXT, PLEASE. THANK
YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT.
THANK YOU. OKAY LETS FOLLOW THE
SAME PROCESS AND HEAR FROM ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. I
BELIEVE FIRST THAT WE HAVE JOHN
LEVEL WITH THE COLLEGE AND
UNIVERSITY POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION HERE AND A
REPRESENTATIVE OF BIOLA
UNIVERSITY, ALSO ON THE LINE TO
WEIGH IN AND OPPOSITION. YOU ALL
KNOW THE RULE THREE MINUTES IN
TOTAL PER SIDE, SIR. PLEASE
PROCEED. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM MY
NAME IS JOHN LOVELL. I REPRESENT
THE CALIFORNIACOLLEGE AND
UNIVERSITY POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION. WE ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES OF THIS BILL.
SPECIFICALLY. IT TREATS THOSE
WHO WORK ON INDEPENDENT PRIVATE
COLLEGE CAMPUSES. DIFFERENTLY IT
CALLS THEM SECURITY GUARDS.
THEY'RE NOT FUNCTIONALLY
SECURITY GUARDS. THE FACT OF THE
MATTER IS, IS THAT ALL COLLEGE
CAMPUSES HAVE SERIOUS PUBLIC
SAFETY PROBLEMS. FIRST OF ALL
NATIONALLY, THERE'S AN ACTIVE
SHOOTER INCIDENT ON A COLLEGE
CAMPUS ONCE EVERY EIGHT DAYS.
SECONDLY SEXUAL ASSAULT. CRIMES.
OCCURRED DISPROPORTIONATELY ON A
COLLEGE CAMPUS, IRRESPECTIVE OF
THE. OPERATIONAL ORGANIZATIONAL
ANCESTRY THAT AN ORGANIZATION
MAY HAVE. BIOLA HAS THE SAME
CHALLENGES THAT U C L A HAS
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS ANOTHER
AREA OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT-DISPROPORTIONATELY TAKES PLACE
IN A CAMPUS ENVIRONMENT, AND
THAT'S TRUE ACROSS THE BOARD.
OUR CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW AND THE
REASON WE ARE SEEKING
AMENDMENTS. IS THAT IN OUR VIEW
, THE BILL INCORRECTLY
CHARACTERIZES COLLEGE AND
UNIVERSITY. UM LAW ENFORCEMENT
AS PRIVATE SECURITY GUARDS,
CATEGORY OF THEM AND THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF THAT
IS THAT THOSE CAMPUSES. ABIOLA'S
OF THE WORLD, THE OTHER PRIVATE
COLLEGES DO NOT HAVE THE SAME
LEVEL. OF PROTECTION. THAT THE
U. C L A C HAVE, UM AND THAT
JUST MEANS THAT THERE'S A WHOLE
HOST OF STUDENTS AND STAFF. WHO
ARE NOT AS PROTECTED. THANK YOU,
SIR. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE
FROM THE UNIVERSITY ON THE LINE.
I GUESS, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON
EXAMINED AND MEMBERS. THANK YOU
FOR THIS TIME. MY NAME IS DONALD
DISCOVER SERVICE POSITION
BIOLOGY. ALSO ON THIS CALL, BUT
REST SMOKE, MR COMPLEMENT,
HOLDING THE POINT. POLITICS. SIX
YEARS HAVE STUDENTS IN 23 YEARS
EMPLOYEE AN EXAMPLE OF THE
DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE ABOUT 6000
STUDENTS OF WHICH 3000 CAMPUS.
UPON PRODUCTS LAMINATION OF 5.5.
AN ANALYSIS BY LEGAL COUNSEL. IS
ABLE TO BUY ONE. I WILL NOT
REPEAT AFFECTED BY ALL OF
CURRENT OPERATIONS. AND BECAUSE
OF THE ARTICLES, WILLINGNESS,
DELAY TO NINE. PROJECT
OPPOSITION. MAYBE IF I WANT TO
FIGHT NONETHELESS, I ALWAYS
CONCERNED THAT MAYBE 515 AND
ABLE TO DO NINE IS GOING TO READ
WILL NOT ALLOW PRIVATE COLLEGES
CAMPUSES ADEQUATELY PROTECT YES,
WE DID AN EMPLOYEE. INSTITUTIONS
WITH LICENSE AS PROPRIETY.
EMPLOYERS WANT FIVE THE OFFICE
SYSTEM CARROT. PRIME AND OTHER
NO RISK. OTHER COLLEGES,
UNIVERSITIES IF THEY IF THEY DO
NOT FIT WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF
A PRIVATE SCHOOL OPERATES OF
GPO. OH AND NOT MOST PEOPLE, UH,
AGENCY. ABLE TO NINE OBVIOUSLY
FROM CURRENT RESPONSE, HE
WOULDN'T DO THAT KIND OF PARTS
PUBLICLY TO STOP. MOST OF THESE
INSTITUTIONS MAY NOT BE WITHIN
THE CURRENT DEFINITION OF THE
VIDEO. YET WE KNOW THAT TOM HAS
BEEN LICENSED, UH, THE VúI. AND
SOME HAVE NOT. WE BELIEVE THIS
THINKING ARISES BECAUSE THERE'S
A GAP IN THE LAW THAT IS NOT THE
FOR PRIVATE COLLEGES I KNOW
THAT. I HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK
WITH GROUPS OF. HIGHLY PRINT
OFFICERS. APPROPRIATELY
PROTECTED TEMPLES AFTER ÁP
TONIGHT COME EFFECTIVE, HOWEVER
SUCCESSFUL BY LEARN OTHER
SIMILAR DURATION COLLEGES. WE
NEED THE INTERVENTION. I WILL
USE THE REST OF MY TIME NOT TO
HAVE A GENERAL COUNSEL POLAR
REQUIRED. SET OUT FOR ME. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR KERMIT AS UH,
DIFFICULT, STATED. I AM THE
GENERAL COMPANY VIOLA AND I JUST
WANTED TO CLARIFY A POINT. AND
YOU ALSO JUST MAKE SOME COMMENTS
IN LIGHT OF THE STATEMENT SAYING
BY ASSEMBLYMAN HOLDEN THE REASON
WE BELIEVE THE EXISTING LAW
AFTER ABC TO NINE POSITIVE
PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF THE
DEFINITION OF PRIVATE PATROL
OFFICERS. WE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH
THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT IS
REQUIRED TO BE A PCO. AND IN
FACT, I ALWAYS OFFICERS RECEIVED
MUCH MORE TRAINING THAN REQUIRED
OF OTHER SECURITY GUARDS
EMPLOYED BY YEP. THAT THAT IS
NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS THE
DEFINITION OF THE CEO. EIGHT IN
THE CODE THAT THESE ARE
BUSINESSES THAT CONTRACT OUT
SERVICES THAT NEVER WORDS FOR
CONSIDERATION. THEY WILL PROVIDE
SERVICES TO ANOTHER. THAT IS NOT
WHAT CAMPUS SAFETY OFFICERS ON
COLLEGE CAMPUSES D THEY
PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR THEIR OWN
, UM, CAMPUS THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
AND WHAT IS THE OTHER PART OF
THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE WAY
THAT THE EURO IS I DON'T KNOW. I
DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE ROTATION
OR IF THERE'S SOME OTHER REASON
, BUT WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY
SEEM TO BE DOING IT. THEY WILL
GIVE PPL STATUSES SOME COLLEGES,
UNIVERSITIES. BUT NOT GIVE UP
THAT SAME STATUS TO OTHERS THAT
ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED. SO WHAT
WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT THIS
POINT IS WE'D LIKE TO TRY AGAIN
WORK WITH ZERO IF, UM, SIMILAR
IN HOLLAND IS NOT WILLING TO
CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT AT THIS
POINT, WHICH I ACTUALLY THINK
COULD BE REMEDIED JUST LIKE
THINKING THE DEFINITION OF CEO
SHOOTING FOOD. COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES. BUT IF THAT'S NOT
THE WAY TO GO THAT I THINK WE
CAN TRY TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM
DIRECTLY WITH ZERO BUT IN THE
EVENT THAT IS NOT SUCCESSFUL. WE
WILL NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME
TRIED TO HOLD AN AMENDMENT THAT
COULD SOLVE THIS PROBLEM
ESSENTIALLY THE LIST, MA'AM,
MA'AM. FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE GONE
WAY BEYOND MY THREE MINUTES, BUT
I FIND THIS TOPIC INTERESTING. I
SUSPECT YOU SHOULDN'T LEAVE THE
LINE BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ASK A FEW
QUESTIONS WHEN WE FINISHED. THE
PROCESS, BUT LET ME FINISH THE
PROCESS. COME BACK TO MY
COLLEAGUES, AND THEN PERHAPS
SOMEBODY CAN EXPLAIN TO ME HOW
INDEPENDENT COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES PRIVATES, NOT CSU,
NOT YOU'VE SEEN AT COMMUNITY
COLLEGES. HAVE CAMPUS SECURITY
PERSONNEL WHO CARRY WEAPONS AND
WHAT THE AUTHORITY FOR THE
CURING OF THE WEAPON IS IF
THEY'RE NOT A PEACE OFFICER IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. MAYBE
THERE'S ANOTHER CATEGORY THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT
SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO
EXPLAIN THAT TO ME. HOWEVER
WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THE
PROCESS. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO
HERE. SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN THE
HEARING ROOM. I SEE ONE, SIR.
NAME, AFFILIATION AND POSITION
ON THE MEASURE, PLEASE. SURE
GOOD EVENING, ALEX GRAVES WITH
THE I C C U WE HAD SUBMITTED A
LETTER, AS YOU HAVE REGARDING.
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED. UM WE
ECHO BY ALL THIS POINT. WE WOULD
LIKE TO WORK WITH THE BUREAU ON
TRYING TO RESOLVE. THIS IS A
VERY TECHNICAL AREA OF THE LAW.
THERE'S MORE I COULD SAY, BUT IN
THE INTEREST OF WE'VE GONE OVER,
I WILL STOP. BUT I'M AVAILABLE
TO TRY AND BETTER ARTICULATE THE
CHALLENGES AND ANALYSIS THAT
WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH.
THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE'LL
CONTACT YOU IF WE HAVE
QUESTIONS. LET'S MOVE TO
WITNESSES WAITING TO TESTIFY VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE AND
OPPOSITION TO THE MEASURE.
MODERATOR. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
ONCE AGAIN PROMPT ANY
INDIVIDUALS WAITING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION TO ASSEMBLY BILL
25 15 WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH
THEM. THANK YOU IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ÁP 25 15
PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME.
I HAVE NO COMMENT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NOW, LET'S BRING THE
CONVERSATION BACK TO MY
COLLEAGUES ON THE DAIS.
COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS, COMMENTS
AND CONCERNS. YOU'VE HEARD MINE,
BUT I'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE ASK
IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY WE HAVE A
MOTION BY SENATOR LEYVA. ANY
DOCTOR PAN. WELL ACTUALLY, I'D
LIKE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION
YOU POSED CHAIR. SO IF WE WANT
THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO TRY TO
ANSWER THAT, BUT YOU ASKED, I'D
LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER THAT
QUESTION. SO YOU HEARD MY
QUESTION. FOLKS ON THE LINE OR
IN THE ROOM OR THE AUTHOR. I'LL
LET YOU DECIDE. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WHAT'S THE AUTHORITY FOR A
CAMPUS SECURITY GUARD ON A
PRIVATE INDEPENDENT COLLEGE OR
UNIVERSITY IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA TO CARRY A FIREARM.
SURE SO I WILL. UM, I'LL TAKE A
CRACK AT THIS. RECOGNIZING THAT
I SPEND MOST OF MY TIME IN
EDUCATION CODE THAT WOULD INVITE
BY ALL HIS COUNSEL TO ADD INTO
THIS DISCUSSION AS WELL. SO TO
THE PRIOR COMMENTS ABOUT THE
AUTHORITY OF UC AND CSU. WE AT
THE I C C. YOU ARE NOT DEBATING
THAT THEY HAVE A SEPARATE
STATUTORY AUTHORITY REGARDING
THEIR PEACE OFFICERS TO
UNDERSTAND THEY ARE SWORN THEY
OFFICERS. THEY ARE THEIR OWN, UH
, LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITY, FOR
ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES,
RECOGNIZED, QUALIFIED. SORRY.
QUALIFIED IS MY UNDERSTANDING
CORRECT? SO WHAT? TALK ABOUT THE
PRIVATE INDEPENDENCE? SURE. SO
THERE WILL BE. I SHOULD SAY AT
THE FOREFRONT, THERE WILL BE A
LITTLE BIT OF VARIANCE FROM
INSTITUTION TO INSTITUTION
BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL UM YOU KNOW,
INDEPENDENTLY OPERATED, BUT
WITHIN THAT, THAT UNIVERSE WE DO
HAVE A HANDFUL WHO HAVE
AUTHORITY UNDER PENAL CODE 8
30.6. I BELIEVE 8 30.7 WHERE
THEY HAVE RECOGNIZED MOU WITH
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND HAVE,
UH, POWERS OF ARREST. UM FOR OUR
OTHER INSTITUTIONS. HOW DOES AN
MOU WITH THE CITY POLICE
DEPARTMENT? GIVE AN EMPLOYEE OF
A PRIVATE UNIVERSITY POWER OF
ARREST. IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. I WOULD DEFER TO
BIOGAS COUNCIL TO EXPAND ON THAT
. I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME OTHER
TRAINING OR EXCLUSION, NOT
TRAINING, BUT REQUIREMENTS IN
THAT SECTION OF PENAL CODE THAT
OUTLINED THOSE REQUIREMENTS FOR
THOSE OFFICERS. SO PIES IN CASE
PAULA FROM BIOLA WANTED TO ADD
TO THAT. JUMP IN. EXCUSE ME.
SORRY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YES
, I'M BACK ON THE LINE HERE. I
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS
NOT ON SPEAKER PHONE. AH, SO
FIRST OF ALL, I MEAN, I CAN
CERTAINLY GET INTO THE TEXAS A
LEGAL ARGUMENT AS TO WHETHER OR
NOT WE ALREADY DISCOVERED BY THE
CHAPTER. THERE IS BUSINESS
PROFESSIONAL CODE. UM THERE IS A
PROVISION. SORRY IT'S 75 82.2.
THE CAPTAIN IS NOT APPLIED TO
AND THEN IF, UH GO DOWN, IT WAS
SUGGESTED IT DOES NOT APPLY TO A
NON PROFIT. COLLEGE. THAT IS
ORGANIZED AND MAINTAIN THE
PUBLIC, WHICH THAT IS HOW HOW
UNIVERSITIES ARE TYPICALLY
CLASSIFIED. HAVING SAID THAT I
DO FEEL IT ITS SUPPORT FOR THE
COMMITTEE TO UNDERSTAND THAT
BIOLA UNIVERSITY AND IT IS OUR
EXPANDING SEVERAL OTHER COLLEGE
FIRST. HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY
WITH THE BUREAU FOR MANY YEARS.
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HERO FULLY
UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE
WANT TO DO AND HOW WE SHOULD GO
ABOUT DOING THERE HAVE BEEN
THESE CONVERSATIONS. I HAVE
MANY, UM DR MANY DOCUMENTS THAT
REFLECTS PHONE CALLS IN THE
BUREAU APPLICATIONS FOR
DIFFERENT LICENSES, AND THE
BUREAU HAS RECEDED. LEE LICENSE
OUR ARM OFFICE. THEY WE HAVE
SENT HIM A CHECK. EVERY YEAR. WE
HAVE SENT THEM THEIR
QUALIFICATIONS TO BE ARMED
OFFICERS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN
CERTIFIED THOSE OFFICERS. SO
THAT HAS HAPPENED FOR MANY, MANY
YEARS NOW ARE CERTAINLY ADDRESS
THAT SPECIFICALLY IF YOU WANT
WANT TO MAKE THIS WELL, THAT'S
HOW I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AT
THIS POINT WITHOUT GOING INTO
EVEN MORE DETAILS LIKE THAT. A
LITTLE. WELL, I DON'T WANT TO
BELABOR THIS, BUT I YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR? I MEAN, I
USED TO BE A LAWYER, AND IT'S
BEEN A LONG TIME. I'M LOOKING
FOR A CODE SECTION THAT
AUTHORIZES EMPLOYEES OF A
PRIVATE, NONPROFIT COLLEGE OR
UNIVERSITY. T AS WHAT'S BEEN
DESCRIBED ESSENTIALLY FUNCTION
AS PEACE OFFICERS WITH THE POWER
OF ARREST. AND CARRY A FIREARM
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN
THE COURSE OF THEIR POSITION.
OKAY, SURE. LET ME I WILL WORK
FOR YOU, TOO. AND I THINK
THERE'S A LEGAL INTERPRETATION.
THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, INDIAN
CAN DIFFER ON SECURITY,
DIFFERENT ACCENTS. THAT MAY MAY
ANSWER THIS QUESTION. FIRST OF
ALL, THIS IS PROFESSIONAL 75
82.1. DEFINES A PRIVATE PATROL
OPERATOR. AND THEN WHEN YOU
THROW DOWN TWO SUBSECTION IV
BELOW THAT SECURITY GUARD OR
SECURITY OFFICER WITHIN THE
MEANING OF THIS CHAPTER. ISN'T
EMPLOYEE ABOUT. I'M SORRY. WELL,
YOU KNOW, I CAN EAT. OF 75 82.1
STATE. 30 GUARDS AS APPLIANCE
AND INCLUDES ARMED CAR. MAY THE
UH, PRIVATE. SO THAT THAT'S THE
CONTEXT. HMM. IS HE GOING TO
QUESTION? WHAT AT ALL? TO NON. I
DO NOT WANT SUCCESSFUL. I
THOUGHT NOT THE REGULAR. THIS
WAS PART OF THAT 50. MEMORY MAKE
A SUGGESTION. I'M LIKE MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN HERE ALL
DAY. MAYBE YOU COULD SUBMIT.
WHAT IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY YOU
COULD SUBMIT I'D BE INTERESTED
IN HAVING THEM I PERHAPS THE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WOULD BE AS
WELL. PERHAPS YOU COULD COULD
SUBMIT TO MY COMMITTEE STAFF.
THE CODE SECTIONS THAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT, SO WE CAN TAKE A
LOOK AT THEM. I DON'T WANT TO
HOLD UP. MY COLLEAGUES HERE ANY
FURTHER IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS. TOLD ME I HAD
SOMETHING ELSE. ROPE, WICKS. UM. SO I THINK THE QUESTION WAS
ASKED AS TO WHY OFFICERS KNOW
MAY CARRYING ON THE PRIVATE
UNIVERSITY. WELL. UH, CONTRACT
SECURITY, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE. AND
THERE IS WELL WELL, FAR LEFT 20
AND WE DO. WHY QUITE IN CONTACT
SECURITY BE ABLE TO CARRY I AM
TO PROTECT AND WE CAN CARRY A
FIREARM. BUT THAT'S NOT A
STUDENT. WELL YOU MAY BE ASKING
FOR CHANGES IN THE LAW, AND
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE RIGHT
NOW ABOUT AND YOU MAY BE RIGHT.
I MEAN, I WOULD CERTAINLY AGREE
THAT STUDENTS ON COLLEGE
CAMPUSES WHETHER THEY'RE PRIVATE
OR PUBLIC NEED TO BE PROTECTED
AND WE NEED MAY NEED TO ADDRESS
THAT. BUT PERHAPS NOT WITH THIS
BILL. SO WHY DON'T WE ASK YOU
ALL ON THE LINE TO SUBMIT TO MY
STAFF DIRECTOR IN THE BUSINESS
AND PROFESSIONAL COMMITTEE STAFF
THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE AND
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. MR
CHAIRMAN. I JUST MAKE ONE
CHAIRMAN. WE WOULD MIMIC ONE
CLARIFICATION TO THE QUESTION
THAT WAS POSED AND I'LL BE BRIEF
BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG
DAY. FOR A ICU. THE OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF OUR SCHOOLS ARE NOT
OFFICERS WITH POWER OF ARREST.
THEY'RE NOT DEPUTIZE. THEY ARE
NOT, UH, THEY DO NOT. THEY'RE
NOT IN THE SITUATION THAT
CHARACTERIZED IN THOSE TWO
SECTIONS OF PENAL CODE, THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF OUR
INSTITUTIONS. ARE OPERATING WITH
CAMPUS SAFETY OFFICERS WHO MAY
BE CARRYING MACE OR STAND GUNS
BUT ARE NOT CARRYING GUNS. AND
IT IS PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE
INSTITUTIONS THAT WE HAVE
CONCERNS WITH THE P P O PSC
FRAMEWORK THAT IS PAST WHILE
LAST YEAR IS BEING EXPANDED UPON
A BIT IN THIS BILL. AGAIN WE
WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE OUR
OPPOSITION TRYING WITH THE S. I
S ON ON THIS. BUT WE HAVE HEARD
CONFLICTING THINGS FROM B S. I S
WE HAVE INSTITUTIONS HAVE
APPLIED FOR BOTH THE P P O AND
PSM BEING DENIED FOR BOTH. AND
WE SPECIFICALLY SECTIONS 89 OF
THIS BILL ARE ARE CONCERNED THAT
IT IS GOING TO UNINTENTIONALLY
TAKE AWAY THOSE NON LETHAL, UH,
WEAPONS OR DEVICES. FROM CAMPUS
SAFETY OFFICERS THAT SOME OF OUR
INSTITUTIONS I UNDERSTAND, AND I
ACTUALLY I APPRECIATE THOSE
COMMENTS, AND I'M SURE THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER NOTED THEM AND
THIS COMMITTEE HAS NOTED THEM
AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT
BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY WANT PEOPLE
TO BE SAFE ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
WE ALSO WANT PEOPLE TO BE
TRAINED, WHO ARE MAKING KEEPING
PEOPLE SAFE, SO THERE'S A WAY TO
DO PROBABLY TO DO BOTH. UM,
MA'AM, YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE TO
SAY. IT WAS JUST CLARIFICATION.
THAT SERMON WOULD WHEN WOULD YOU
LIKE TO SUBMIT? THAT THAT
INFORMATION AS SOON AS YOU CAN
GET IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT?
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL
NECESSARILY HAVE ANY IMPACT ON
THIS BILL. BUT IT'S CERTAINLY
YOU'VE PIQUED MY CURIOSITY. SO I
LIKE TO READ AND I'D LIKE TO
READ IT. SOONER RATHER THAN
LATER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I
WILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. COLLEAGUES SORRY FOR
DOMINATING THE CONVERSATION. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS OR
CONCERNS? SENATOR EDMUND. THANK
YOU. I JUST WANT TO I HAVE A
LARGE SMALL BUT OUR MAIN, UH
UNIVERSITY IS A UNIVERSITY OF
PACIFIC AND STOCKTON. AND SO I
HAD CONCERNS LIKE OH, WHY SHOULD
THEY BE TREATED DIFFERENT? BUT
THEN AGAIN AFTER DIGGING IN, AND
CERTAINLY THIS CONVERSATION HAS
REALLY ILLUSTRATED THAT. UM A. I
APPRECIATE THE ARGUMENT FROM THE
OPPOSITION, BUT THEY DON'T
REALLY APPLY TO WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO DO THEIR APPLYING TO A
KIND OF A LARGER ISSUE OF THE
LAW. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THIS BILL TODAY, AND I DO ALSO
FIND THAT THE AREA FASCINATING.
AND AS WE HAVE MORE ISSUES AND-OF VIOLENCE, I THINK WE SHOULD
BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY
TO KEEP OUR STUDENTS SAFE.
SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY. THANK
YOU, MR HOLDEN. THANK YOU,
DOCTOR PAN. YES THANK YOU. AND
SO MAYBE I'LL JUST ASK IN YOUR
CLOTHES. I KNOW YOU SORT OF
MENTIONED IT IN YOUR
PRESENTATION UNLESS YOU'RE QUITE
CAUGHT UP WITH ALL THE THINGS SO
ADDRESS THE UNIVERSITIES OF WHAT
YOU MIGHT SEE, DOING TO TRY TO
ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS ARE OR
HOW YOU SEE THEIR CONCERNS.
THANK YOU. WELL, I THINK I THINK
THAT DR EGGMAN SORT OF TALKED
ABOUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS
BILL. AND WHERE I THINK THESE
PRIVATE DECISIONS. UM ARE KIND
OF SEEING A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
I THINK I MADE REFERENCE IN MY
POINT AND MY TALKING POINTS
ABOUT PRIVATE. PATROL OPERATOR
LICENSE. AND IF THEY'RE NOT
OPERATING UNDER THAT IT'S NOT A
COMPLICATED PROCESS TO GET ONE,
AND THEY THEN KIND OF CONTINUE
WITH BUSINESS AS USUAL. BUT
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO AUGMENT OUR
BILL FROM LAST YEAR. AND I THINK
THAT THE COMMITTEE AND THE
CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR
THOUGHTFULNESS IN TERMS OF NOT
ONLY ENGAGING WITH US AND THEN
PROVIDING INFORMATION THAT WE
NEEDED TO MAKE THE PROPER
AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL, BUT ALSO
IN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE
OPPONENTS. BUT THERE ARE
OPPOSITION DROPPED ON US AT THE
LAST MINUTE. WE TRIED TO KIND OF
REGROUP AND RESPOND AS BEST WE
COULD AND I THINK THERE'S A
CLEAR DISTINCTION HERE, AND I
THINK YOU'RE SEEING IT THAT THEY
HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT
ISSUE THAN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
ADDRESS. SENATOR CHILI B. JUST
FOR CLARIFICATION.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HOLDING. I JUST
WANT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS, AND
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A
DIFFERENCE OF WHAT THE INTENT OF
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND
WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE. I'M
JUST GOING TO CURIOUS AS TO JUST
SO THAT I'M CLEAR AS TO THEIR
HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THE
CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE THAT
THIS BILL OR THE POTENTIAL OF
YOU KNOW, I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA
WORK. CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM
AS JUST CAME ABOUT. BUT HOW DOES
IT AFFECT OR WILL IT AFFECT
THEIR ABILITY TO CARRY? UM
PRIZED. IT'S BEEN DEFINED AS
THEY'VE DEFINED THEMSELVES.
THEY'RE NOT, ACCORDING TO
CALIFORNIA LAW. SHOULD PROBABLY
NOT BE. I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO BE
DELICATE ON SOME OF THIS, TOO.
AND PRESERVED THERE. ABILITY TO
MOVE FORWARD KIND OF ARTICULATE
A PATH THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP
BUT THAT'S UP TO THEM IN TERMS
OF HOW THEY WANT TO RECEIVE FROM
THIS POINT FORWARD WELL AND WE
DON'T NEGOTIATE AMENDMENTS FROM
THE DIET, SO THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY
SOME ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE
DISCUSSED AND PROBABLY ADDRESSED
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, BUT I THINK
I'VE EXHAUSTED MY COLLEAGUES.
AND YOU, PROBABLY SO YOU ARE
FREE TO CLOSE. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK HER THANK YOU, SIR. WE DO
HAVE A MOTON ON ASSEMBLY BILL
25 15 IT IS BY SENATOR LEYVA.
THE MOTION IS DO PASS. WE REFER
TO THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC
SAFETY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
ITEM NUMBER 14 A B 25 15 MOTION
IS DO PASS AND REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY. HI.
HI MELINDA'S ARCHULETTA BATES
BECKER. HI MY DODD DOT I EGGMAN.
SEGMENT. I HEARD TATO POTATO I
JONES LEYVA. LEAVE IT. I'M IN,
MAN. I NEWMAN KOBO GTA I PAN. I. 10 VOTES WILL HOLD THE ROLL
OPEN, HAVE SOME MEMBERS. WHAT
WAS GOING TO GO ON. WE'LL GO
THROUGH THEM NOW.
OKAY, UM. IN FIVE MINUTES. WE'RE
GOING TO OPEN THE ROLL, CALL THE
OPEN ITEMS AND THEN CLOSE THE
ROLE FOR ALL MEMBERS OF BUSINESS
AND PROFESSIONAL COMMITTEE WHO
ARE NOT HERE. PLEASE COME ON
DOWN.
OKAY LET'S START AT THE TOP OF
THE ROLE. WE'LL START WITHOUT
HIM. NUMBER ONE, LET'S OPEN THE
ROLE. ON ASSEMBLY BILL 6 46. MM
HMM. 10 TO 0 VOTING I. MELINDA'S
ARCHULETTA. POTATO. HURTADO NÓ.
PAN. VOTE IS 10 TO 1. THAT
MATTERS OUT. ITEM NUMBER TWO
ASSEMBLY BUILT 10 14 CURRENT
VOTE 8 TO 3 CHAIR VOTING AYE.
ARCHULETTA. POTATO. HURTADO NÓ.
A TURBO. CURRENT VOTE 8 TO 4
THAT MATTER IS OUT. ITEM NUMBER
THREE. SO WE BUILT 16 32 CURRENT
VOTE 9 TO 0 CHAIR VOTING AYE.
MELINDA'S. ARCHULETTA. JONES.
MEN. PHð BUG. OKAY, I. CURRENT
VOTE 10 TO 0 THAT MATTER IS OUT.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ASSUME WE
BUILT 16 36 CURRENT OTE 12 TO 0
VOTING, AYE. KOBO. CHERBOURG.
AYE. VOTE 13 0 THAT MATTERS OUT
ITEM NUMBER FIVE ASSEMBLY BILL
17 42 CURRENT VOTE 7 TO 2 CHAIR
VOTING AYE. ARCHULETTA. BATES.
POTATO. HURTADO. AYE. PHð BUG.
CHILD BAG. NO. PAN. PN. AYE.
CURRENT VOTE 9 TO 3. THAT MATTER
IS OUT. REMEMBER SIX SOMEBODY
BUILT 18 81 CURRENT VOTE 7 TO 2.
SURE VOTING AYE. ARCHULETTA
BATES, HER TATO. HER T. PHí
BOGUE, I PAN PN. AYE. CURRENT
VOTE TURNED INTO THAT MATTER IS
OUT. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ASSEMBLY
BILL 18 85 CURRENT VOTE 11 TO 0
CHAIR VOTING AYE. ARCHULETTA.
POTATO. CARTER T BUTTER BUG
GUY. CURRENT VOTE 13 0 THAT
MATTERS OUT. ITEM NUMBER NINE A
B 1901 CURRENT VOTE 7 TO 3 CHAIR
VOTING AYE. ARCHULETTA. DON
POTATO. POTATO? AYE. TOWBOAT.
CHOBANI? AYE. CURRENT VOTE 93
THAT MATTER IS OUT ITEM NUMBER
10 ASSEMBLY BILL 21 78 CURRENT
VOTE 12 0 CHAIR VOTING, AYE.
ARCHULETTA, HER TAITO. OR TOTO?
AYE. AND VOTE 13 0 THAT MATTERS
OUT ITEM NUMBER 11 ASSEMBLY
BUILT 22 10 CURRENT VOTE 92
CHAIR VOTING AYE. ARCHULETTA.
POTATO. HER THOUGHT. OH, NO.
JONES. CURRENT VOTE 93 THAT
MATTERS OUT. ITEM NUMBER 13
ASSEMBLY BILL 23 41 CURRENT VOTE
13 0 CHAIR VOTING AYE.
ARCHULETTA. THAT MATTER IS OUT.
THANK EVERYONE VOTED ON 14 LET
ME JUST CALL IT ANYWAY. 14
ASSEMBLY BILL 25 15 CURRENT VOTE
10 0 CHAIR VOTING AYE. MELINDA'S
ARCHULETTA BATES JONES. MATTER
IS OUT VOTE IS 10 TO 0. REMEMBER
15 ASSEMBLY BILL 25 74 CURRENT
VOTE 12 0 CHAIR VOTING AYE.
POTATO. SORTA NÓI. BURNED VOTE
13 0 THAT MATTER IS OUT. FINALLY
AS ITEM NUMBER 18 ASSEMBLY BILL
27 28. CURRENT VOTE 10 TO 0
CHAIR VOTING AYE. ARCHULETTA.
POTATO HARTARTO. I KNOW BOGUE
GUY PAN. PNE. CURRENT VOTE 13 0
THAT MATTER IS OUT. SO I JUST
WANT TO CONFIRM BECAUSE I HAVE
ITEMS NUMBER 8 12 16 17 WERE NOT
HEARD TODAY. 8 12. 16 AND 17 16
AND 17 WERE PULLED. OKAY.
ALRIGHT. JUST WANT TO CONFIRM
ALL RIGHT? THAT CONCLUDES OUR-AGENDA AND ARE HEARING I WANT TO
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