DIFFICULT IS THAT EVERYONE WHO
IS HERE IN THE ROOM KNOWS AND IT
SEEMS TO BE SOME CHALLENGES THAT
COMMUNICATION SYSTEM SO LET ME
GO AHEAD AND JUST START WITH OUR
OFFICIAL SCRIPT. WE ARE GOING TO
CALL THIS MEETING. TO ORDER FOR
THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. WE
CONTINUE TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS TO
MANAGE ONGOING COVID 19 RISKS
AND THE SENATE CERTAINLY DOES
CONTINUE TO WELCOME THE PUBLIC.
IT'S PROVIDED ACCESS BOTH IN
PERSON. HERE IN OUR BUILDING IN
SACRAMENTO AND ALSO
TELECONFERENCE PARTICIPATION FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT. SO FOR
INDIVIDUALS. AH! WISHING TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE, THE
PARTICIPANT, TOUGH FREE NUMBER
AN ACCESS CODE IS POSTED ON OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE. AND IT'S
GOING TO BE DISPLAYED ON THE
SCREEN. I WILL ANNOUNCE IT. NOW
THE TODAY'S PARTICIPANT NUMBER
IS 844. 291636484. IN THE ACCESS
CODE IS 1411140. TO MAINTAIN THE
QUORUM. DURING THE HEARING, AS
IS CUSTOMARY, ANY INDIVIDUALS
DISRUPTIVE MAY BE REMOVED FROM
THE REMOTE MEETING SERVICE OR
HOW THE CONNECTIONS NEEDED.
WE'RE HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE
HEARINGS HERE IN THE STREET
BUILDING IN SACRAMENTO. I ASK
ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO
BE PRESENT IN THE ROOM. THIS IS
ROOM 1200. SOWE CAN ESTABLISH A
REQUIREMENT BEGIN OUR HEARING.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE DID INITIALLY
HAVE AH. 11 BILLS ON TODAY'S
AGENDA WITH THREE ITEMS ON THE
CONSENT, CALENDAR ITEMS 57 AND
10. THREE BILLS HAVE BEEN PULLED
FROM TODAY'S AGENDA, SO THOSE
ARE ITEMS AGENDA ITEMS 14 AND
FIVE, SO IT'S ACTUALLY A
RELATIVELY LIGHT HEARING TODAY,
COMPARED TO SOME OTHERS THAT
WE'VE HAD AH, SO JUST WANT TO
LET EVERYONE KNOW. SO SO THREE
BILLS HAVE BEEN PULLED FROM THE
AGENDA. THAT'S 14 AND FIVE, SO
THAT'S A B 10. OH, ONE. 16 42
AND 16 58. ALL RIGHT. I KNOW
THAT WE'VE GOT A COUPLE AUTHORS
WHO ARE HERE. WHY DON'T WE GO
AHEAD AND GET STARTED AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE WILL ESTABLISH THE
QUARRYMEN. WE HAVE ONE BUT WE
CAN GET STARTED WITH YOU
REMEMBER, CORK? WE DO APPRECIATE
YOUR PATIENTS. ALRIGHT CORK IS
HERE TO PRESENT ITEMS SIX IN THE
AGENDA MEMBERS THAT A B 17 93
AND YOU MAY PROCEED WHEN READY.
YEAH, I AGREE. UH THANK YOU,
CHAIR. WE ALL GO THROUGH THINGS
LIKE THIS. UM AND SENATOR BOB
AND SENATOR BATES. NICE TO SEE
YOU. I'D LIKE TO THANK COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THE THOUGHTFUL
ANALYSIS THERE. THERE WERE
TECHNICAL CHANGES, BUT THAT THEY
WERE NEEDED TECHNICAL CHANGES.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH RIGHT
NOW, BUSINESS AND RETAILERS IN
CALIFORNIA TAX WITH DETERMINING
WHETHER TWIST PRODUCT IS TOXIC
TO AQUATIC LIFE. THIS MEANS THAT
THEY MUST TAKE TEST THEIR
PRODUCTS USING LIVE FISH. WHICH
PREVENTS PRODUCTS FROM BEING
LABELED AS CRUELTY FREE. WE HAVE
SEVERAL PRO. PREVENTING CRUELTY
TO ANIMALS GROUPS IN SUPPORT OF
THIS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE
PERSONAL CARE PRODUCTS COUNCIL.
THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE
WHEN BUSINESSES SKIP TESTING AND
CLASSIFY THEIR WASTE IS
HAZARDOUS. LEADING TO PRODUCTS
LIKE SHAMPOO AND MAKEUP BEING
TREATED AS HAZARDOUS WASTE. IT'S
HELPED TO NO ONE MY BILL DIRECTS
DTSC TO EVALUATE THE CONTINUED
VALUE OF THE ACUTE AQUATIC TAXUS
CITY CRITERIA. AND IF THE IN IF
EXISTING ALTERNATIVES TO THE
FIST TEST CAN BE USED IN
CALIFORNIA, THE MOST PROMINENT
WHICH IS A MATHEMATICAL, UH,
TEST WHERE YOU WOULD TAKE A LOOK
AT OTHER PRODUCTS THAT HAVE BEEN
DECLARED SAFE. IF ALL THE
INGREDIENTS IN THIS PRODUCT ARE
DECLARED SAFE. YOU COULD
POTENTIALLY JUST SKIPPED THE
TEST ALTOGETHER, WHICH IS LIKELY
TO HAPPEN FOR A VARIETY OF
THESE, AND, OF COURSE, WOULD
SAVE MONEY AND STREAMLINED. WITH
ME. ON THE PHONE IS JORDAN'S
WELLS FROM THE NATIONAL
STEWARDSHIP ACTION COUNCIL. I
HOPE. AND IF HE HAS TROUBLE,
I'LL DO IT FOR HIM. YES SO DID I
MEAN I JUST DON'T HAVE A GOOD
SENSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
THE PHONES RIGHT NOW. SO
MODERATOR IS THE MISS JORDAN
THERE. JORDAN CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES I CAN GREAT HIGH JOURDAN
KÞT. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. HIæN
GORDON WELLS, WITH THE NATIONAL
SECURITY ACTUALLY HELPFUL, A
NONPROFIT THAT ADVOCATES
PARTICULAR AND EQUITABLE ECONOMY
. THANK CALIFORNIA CONSUMER
BRANDS NOT UTILIZED THE AQUATIC
TO BE TESTED. THEIR PRODUCTS
MUST BE MANAGED AS TOXIC TO THE
AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT, RENDERING
PROTEIN. THREE BRANDS POSITIVE,
WHICH REQUIRES EXTENSIVE WICKS
PROCEDURES, MAINLY INCINERATION.
AND CREATING WHAT SOME CALL THE
AWKWARD COSTS. PARADOX RESULTS
IN EVERYDAY PRODUCTS AND PEOPLE
BEING UNNECESSARILY INCINERATED.
COULD FURTHER IMPACT
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE MEDIA
WHERE THESE INCINERATORS ARE
LOCATED. THEIR BRANDS ARE
SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO
INCINERATE, NOT HAZARDOUS
PRODUCT. REGULATED WASTE
IDENTIFICATION IS A PERSISTENT
AND COST THE CROPS ON CALIFORNIA
PRODUCT TESTING RESULTED IN THE
OVERREGULATION OF WASTING AND
THE SUBSEQUENT OVER PAYING FOR
EXPENSIVE AND UNNECESSARY
INTEGRATE. TODAY THERE ARE ONLY
TWO US THAT USE AQUATIC CITY TO
DETERMINE WHETHER THIS
CHARACTERISTIC WASHINGTON AND
CALIFORNIA. HOWEVER HAS ALREADY
TAKEN ACTION TO ALLOW FOR A
PRODUCT TOXICITY CALCULATED AS
AN ALTERNATIVE TESTING EVERY
PRODUCT. FURTHERMORE THE ALREADY
ALLOWS COMPUTATION FOR OTHER
INCLUDING ORAL INTERNAL MAYBE 17
93 WILL ALLOW FOR THE PRODUCT
POSITION OF CALIFORNIA ROLLS
ELIMINATE UNNECESSARY AND COSTLY
HAZARD MANAGEMENT OF NONPROFIT
PRODUCT. I THINK
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S KIRK FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP AND URGE YOUR VOTE
FOR THE 87. THANK YOU, JORDAN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH OTHER FOLKS
WHO WANT TO WEIGH AND SUPPORT
HERE FOR THIS BILL. THIS IS A B
17 93 HIGH THERE. NICHOLAS
SECOND ON BEHALF OF SOCIAL
COMPASSION AND LEGISLATION IN
SUPPORT. GREAT. NICE TO SEE. YOU
KNOW, CLOSE, OKAY? OTHER PEOPLE
ON THE PHONE LINES, HOPING THAT
THEY'RE WORKING. WE WANT TO WAIT
AND SUPPORTED THIS BILL A B 17
93. IF NOBODY CALLS HIM. ARE YOU
READY FOR THE DECISION? YES. THE
TRASH. YES, WE ARE. GENTLEMEN IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TESTIFYING FOR
EIGHT P 17 91 POWERED BY THIS
ZERO 0.50 13 GO AHEAD. MORNING,
MR. CHAIR, MATT ROBINSON WAS
SHOT DEAD HER ANTI SMOKER AND
LYING ON BEHALF OF YOU MAY
SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES IN
SUPPORT. FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
PLEASE PRESS 10. IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT FOR
PEACE. GO AHEAD. HI SORRY. THIS
IS JORDAN WAS AGAIN I'M CALLING
ON BEHALF OF SMARTER SPORTING
AND CONDITIONS COMMITTEE FOR
RESPONSIBLE MEDICINE THAT WERE
UNABLE TO TALK HIMSELF. THANK
YOU, MONKEY PART. AND LINE 38.
YOU ARE OPEN. CLIMBED 38. PLEASE
GO AHEAD. YOU HEAR ME? YES. YES,
WE CAN. PLEASE PROCEED. SO MR
CHAIR MEMBERS, MANDY LEE ON
BEHALF OF PERSONAL CARE
PRODUCTS, COUNSELING SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MANDY. MR
CHAIR. NOBODY ELSE'S QUEUED UP
THIS TIME. OKAY THANK YOU SO
MUCH. ALRIGHT LET'S GO TO ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO RAISE CONCERNS
ABOUT THE BILL. OPPOSITION
ANYONE HERE IN PERSON? I KNOW
THERE'S NO REGISTERED
OPPOSITION. ANYONE? THE PHONE
LINES MODERATOR. YOU WOULD LIKE
JUST TRYING. OPPOSITION POLICE
PRESS WENT OUT 0.0. SOMEBODY IS
CUEING UP THE START. THANK YOU.
LET'S BRING BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE BEFORE WE GO ON THAT
COMMITTEE. I JUST WANTED I WANT
TO MAKE SURE YOU EXPLICITLY
AGREE TO TAKE THE AMENDMENTS
EXPLICITLY AGREED TO TAKE THE
AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
VERY GOOD. OKAY I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I
AGREE WITH YOU AND I WANT TO
THANK FOR HER OVER WORK ON THIS
BILL. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY SO LET'S
GO. I KNOW. UM, CHAIR MEREDITH
WIECKOWSKI HAS QUESTIONS. NO,
NO, I ACTUALLY I DON'T. I HAVE
NO QUESTION I COULDN'T THINK OF
A FINER OFFER AUTHOR THAN DR
QUIRKE TO SOLVE. THE OXY TALKS.
PARADOX GOSH NEEDED TO SAY THAT
, UM ARE YOU GUYS EACH OTHER'S
SENATOR AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S?
YEAH. YEAH WE'RE WE'RE FRIENDS.
HELLO, FESTIVAL ALMOST 20 YEARS
. THIS IS GREAT. THE OXY TALKS
PARADOX PARADOX. SOUNDS LIKE
SOMETHING ON A GILBERT AND
SULLIVAN. HE WAS VISITING
HAYWARD WHEN EVEN BEFORE HE GOT
ELECTED IN FREMONT, I HAD A
FEELING HE WANTED TO BE A
SENATOR FOR A LONG TIME. ALRIGHT
MADAM VICE CHAIR, NOT A QUESTION
. JUST APPRECIATION FOR YOU
PURSUING THIS BILL AFTER THE
VETO, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
AND APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS
THERE. YEAH, WE SEE A REAL
DIFFERENCE NOW. DTSC IS
DEFINITELY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS
ISSUE, AND FRANKLY, THEY HAD
ALMOST NO FUNDING AT THE TIME
THAT WE GOT THE VETO. AND THAT'S
BEEN REMEDIED. THANK GOD BECAUSE
THEY ARE KEY AGENCY, BUT THEY
JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES
THAT THAT TIME AND YOU KNOW, IF
IT HADN'T BEEN VETOED, IT
PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO BE GOTTEN DONE, BUT NOW
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
THEY HAVE MORE RESOURCES. I
REALLY HOPE WE'LL GET GOING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET ME I
NOTE THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM.
WHY DON'T WE ESTABLISH AQUARIUM
SECRETARY? THANK YOU, BRIAN. ALL
RIGHT, ALLAN. HERE HERE. BATES
HERE HERE, DARLING. HERE. DOLLY
DOLLY! ALRIGHT THANK YOU HEAR
GONZALES SKINNER, STERN
WIECKOWSKI HERE MOVE THE BILL.
OKAY WE'VE HAD POSITIVE COMMENTS
ALL AROUND. THERE'S NO REGISTER
OPPOSITION CENTER WIECKOWSKI
MOVED THE BILL. WHY DON'T YOU
CLOSE YOUR EYE VOTE? THANK YOU
SO MUCH. OKAY SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ITEM NUMBER SIX A
B 17 93 BY SOME REMEMBER QUIRK.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMENDING, WE
REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS ALLEN. BY BATES
DELI DELI I. GONZALEZ SKINNER,
STERN, WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI AND
FOR YOU TO FURTHER MEMBERS THAT
ON BUT THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE
YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THANK YOU
CHAIR. TANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, BILL. OKAY JOAQUIN
ARAMBULA IS HERE TO PRESENT HIS
BILL ONCE AGAIN APPRECIATE YOUR
PATIENCE, GIVEN ALL THE
TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WE HAD
THIS MORNING. THIS IS ITEM NINE.
IN YOUR AGENDAS. MEMBERS IS A B
25 50. AND YOU MAY PROCEED WHEN
READY AND SELLING MEMBER. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND SENATORS. I AM
GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT ON A B 25 50 TODAY, AND
I APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S
GUIDANCE AND I'M HAPPY TO ACCEPT
THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.
CALIFORNIA'S LEADERS ARE
COMMITTED TO ADDRESSING OUR
STATES, SEVERE ENVIRONMENTAL
CHALLENGES, AND MAYBE 25 50 IS
FOCUSED ON THE URGENT NEED TO
IMPROVE THE AIR QUALITY. AND THE
EIGHT COUNTIES THAT MAKE UP THE
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY. IT IS A FACT
THAT FRESNO COUNTY HAS THE WORST
AIR FOR PARTICLE POLLUTION IN
THE UNITED STATES. ACCORDING TO
THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION,
AND CURRENT COUNTY RANKS SECOND
IN FRESNO COUNTY ALONE. THE
AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION
ESTIMATES THAT THERE ARE NEARLY
20,000 CASES OF PEDIATRIC ASTHMA
AND OVER 65,000 CASES OF ADULT
ASTHMA. THIS CRISIS IS
PARTICULARLY HARMFUL TO OUR MOST
VULNERABLE AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES WHERE THE BAD AIR
QUALITY COMPOUNDS ADVERSE
EFFECTS ON CHILDHOOD
DEVELOPMENT. LEADS TOWARDS
MISSED DAYS AT WORK. YOU CAN
HAVE IMMEDIATE HEALTH AILMENTS
AND LONG TERM HELP CHRONIC
CONDITIONS AS WELL. AND WORSE,
IT IS KNOWN THAT BAD AIR QUALITY
CONTRIBUTE TO PREMATURE DEATHS.
IN 1997, THE UNITED STATES
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
ESTABLISHED AMBIENT AIR QUALITY
STANDARDS TO ADDRESS THE GRAVE
HEALTH IMPACTS OF AIR POLLUTION.
25 YEARS LATER, THE SAN JOAQUIN
VALLEY AIR QUALITY AIR POLLUTION
CONTROL DISTRICT STILL HASN'T
MET SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS, LET
ALONE THE MORE RECENT ONES. THE
STATUS QUO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. IN
THE FACE OF DECADES LONG HEALTH
CRISIS, THE CALIFORNIA AIR
RESOURCES BOARD MUST ENGAGE MORE
STRONGLY ON THIS BOTH MOBILE AND
STATIONARY SOURCES. ULTIMATELY
IT IS THE STATE'S RESPONSIBILITY
TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE,
INCLUDING OUR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY. CAN
BREATHE CLEANER AIR AND NOT
SUFFER FROM POOR AIR POLLUTION.
MAYBE 25 56 ONLY TO REQUIRE
ADDITIONAL INVOLVEMENT OF THE
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
IN THE EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE SAN
JOAQUIN VALLEYS, AIR QUALITY.
THE SAFETY AND HEALTH OF THE
VALLEY RESIDENTS CANNOT WAIT ANY
LONGER. HERE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT, OR DR KATHRYN GARUBA,
WHITE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND
PEDRO HERNANDEZ, DEPUTY DIRECTOR
OF THE CENTRAL VALLEY AIR
COALITION. DON'T THEY'RE NOT
HERE, THOUGH THEY'RE ON CO HOST
LINE. THAT'S CORRECT. OK, ALL
RIGHT, LET'S START WITH YOU,
DOCTOR. GROUP AWAIT. ON THE
PHONE LINE. GOOD MORNING.
SHARON. MANY MEMBERS, CATHERINE
GROUP, POLITE CODING COALITION
OR STEVE BACK. THANK YOU
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AND COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON THE BILL
AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
A WORD OF 18 25. THE SAND
WALKING VALUES INFAMOUS AS THE
MOST POLLUTED AIR BASE IN IN THE
UNITED STATES, FINE PARTICLES
AND ONE OF THE MOST POLLUTED FOR
OZONE. AIR POLLUTION COSTS ARE
REGION MORE THAN $6 BILLION
ANNUALLY FIGURE THAT CANNOT
ADEQUATELY ACCOUNT FOR IMPACTS
LIKE DAYS UPON DAYS WHERE IT IS
EXERCISE PLAY OUTSIDE. OR LOVED
ONES WHO HAVE DIED PREMATURELY.
MAYBE 25 15 STRENGTHENS THE
EXISTING COLLABORATION BETWEEN
THE STAND WALKING VALLEY AND THE
CALIFORNIA AIR APIECE FOR
SUPPORT. THE RECENT COMMITMENTS
TO PHASE OUT OPEN AGRICULTURAL
BURNING BY 2025. JUST ONE
EXAMPLE. VERY ADDITIONAL
AUTHORITY GRANTED APART
LEGISLATION IMPROVED THE
CONSULTATION PROCESS AND
ULTIMATELY LEAD GREAT DATES.
CERTAIN FOURTH PHASE HOUSE. BARB
IS WELL POSITIONED WITH THIS
WITH ADDITIONAL MEASURES AND
STRATEGIES MEET THEIR GOALS IN
THE HOUSE, GIVEN THEIR
LEADERSHIP ON EFFORTS,
ELECTRIFYING MOBILE FORCES AND
HIGH COMPLIANCE ST THINGS THAT
REGULATES FINALLY, MAYBE 25 60
ALLOWS THE RETROSPECTIVE LOOK AT
PAST FAILURES, PLUS ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES AND CAPACITY TO
COLLABORATE ON SOLUTIONS
INTEGRATE STRATEGIES FROM THE
COMMUNITY AIR PROTECTION
PROGRAM. LIGHTNING TRAINING
CONSULTATION WITH COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITIES
ADVANTAGE. FEEDBACK HAS WORKED
FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS FOR SOURCING
THERE TO THE VALLEY. THINK
FORWARDS NUMEROUS PROPOSALS
WHILE OUR SITUATION IS DIRE, OR
REGION IS RESILIENT TO HELP FOR
SPORTS IN THERE AND IMPROVED
HEALTH IN THE VALLEYS YET FROM
18 25 50. PAINT THEM. THANK YOU.
LET'S GO TO PETER HERNANDEZ. ARE
YOU THERE, MR HERNANDEZ? YES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY GREAT.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME
IS PRESIDENT AND DEPUTY DIRECTOR
FOR THE CENTRAL VALLEY COLLEGE
AND A LIFELONG RESIDENTS OF
VALLEY AS WELL AND I'M SCARED OF
SUPPORT FOR IT. MAYBE 25. OVER
THE YEARS. VALLEY CONTINUE
SOLUTION EMERGENCY. NEARLY
EVERYONE KNOWS SOMEBODY WITH A
SERIOUS QUESTION. ACCORDING TO
THE 28 TEAMS. COMPANY HEALTH
INTERVIEW SURVEY ABOUT ONE IN
FOUR CHILDREN AND SOME OF THE
REGION WAS TYPE PERSON.
COMPLAIN. 19 PRESIDENT COUNTY
LED THE STATE EMERGENCY VISIT
FOR 11 TO 17. MM THREE TIMES THE
AVERAGE SO AWESOME OPPORTUNITY
TO REDUCE EMISSIONS FROM
STATIONARY OR TWO REGIONS.
CALIFORNIA STICKBALL, INCLUDING
GENERATORS, OIL WELLS ALSO
PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS HISTORY OF LEADERSHIP
COUNCIL DISTRICT. WHICH I'VE
SAID SEVERAL PEOPLE ONLINE
FRIENDS HEALTH GOALS FOR
CONNECTICUT HUNTING ILLEGAL
ACTIVITY IN THE LAST MONTH OVER
20 WELLS COME DIRECTLY. SO FOR
THE PUBLIC HEALTH CALIFORNIA
FAMILIES LIKE MINE HEARD YOU
ALSO SUPPORT AND IT CAN BE A WIN
WIN SITUATION WHERE WE ALL
MIRACLES. AND OR WORK
COLLABORATIVELY SEE BETTER
BENEFITS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. LET'S GIVE
FOLKS WHO WANT TO WEIGH IN AND
SUPPORTED THE BILL. THE
OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR
SUPPORT. THIS IS A B 25 50. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS ELENA
ORTIZ ON BEHALF OF NRDC ACTION
FUND IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. ANYONE ON THE PHONE LINES.
YOU WANT TO WAIT AND SUPPORT FOR
25 50 MODERATOR. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF
ABIA PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME WHEN
FILED BY ZERO. OUR FIRST PART
PLACEMENT IS LINE 28 AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING CHEMICAL PRODUCT, BE
HAPPY HERE IN CALIFORNIA AND
SUPPORT LINE 14 YOU ARE OPEN.
YES CHRIS SHAHBAZ, DEPUTY PAUL,
DIRECTOR, CLEAN AIR SUPPORT.
0.29, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO
SHADA IS DAMIAN COUNCIL FOR
JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND
CALLING YOU 9 48, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. RIGA WAS CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS. MY FORTIES
TOUGHENED. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
GOOD MORNING. WHAT DO YOU
HASTINGS WITH CLIMATE CENTER CAN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. AS A FINAL
ROUND OF PRESS PLANT ALIBIED
SUPPORT 42. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MORGAN NEILL NATIONAL PARKS
CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION IS
FIRST AND LIKE 22, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO. THIS IS GONNA GET
ANSEL UM, POLICY DIRECTOR FOR
THE COUNTRY'S HEALTH OR
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE NETWORK IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MR
CHAIR. WE HAVE A DEAL. GREAT
OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT,
LET'S GO TO OPPOSITION. HI
THERE. YEAH. MORNING, MR CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME'S TOM JORDAN. I'M THE
SENIOR POLICY ADVISOR WITH THE
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY AIR POLLUTION
CONTROL DISTRICT. IS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ARAMBULA
MENTIONED THE VALLEY DOES FACE
VERY SIGNIFICANT AIR QUALITY
CHALLENGES. UM UNFORTUNATELY, WE
DON'T BELIEVE THAT A B 25 50
WILL DO A LOT TO ADDRESS THOSE
CHALLENGES. THE AIR DISTRICT IN
THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES
BOARD HAVE A VERY LONG
COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP TO
WORK ON PLANS TO BRING ABOUT
CLEAN AIR IN THE SAN JOAQUIN
VALLEY, WHILE WE STILL HAVE A
LONG WAY TO GO AND DEFINITELY A
LOT OF CHALLENGES TO ADDRESS
THAT COLLABORATION HAS LED TO
SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THE
AIR OVER OVER THE DECADES. THE
SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY HAS ATTAINED
THE FEDERAL ONE HOUR OZONE
STANDARD. THE FEDERAL PM 10
STANDARD. THE 1997 PM 2.5
STANDARD FOR A 24 HOUR PERIOD.
UH ALL BUT ONE MONITOR IN THE
VALLEY NOW MEET THE ANNUAL PM
2.5 STANDARD THAT ONE MONITORS
IN CURRENT COUNTY AND HAS BEEN
HEAVILY IMPACTED BY WILDFIRES,
WHICH HAS LED TO A CHALLENGE AND
DEMONSTRATING ATTAINMENT. WE ARE
ON TRACK TO MEET THE REMAINING
STANDARDS AND HAVE SUBMITTED
PLANS IN CONJUNCTION WITH CARBON
TO DO SO. CARBON THE AIR
DISTRICT BASICALLY WORKED
TOGETHER ON ALL FACETS OF
ADDRESSING OUR EQUALITY ISSUES.
WE BOTH OPERATE MONITORS
THROUGHOUT THE VALLEY. WE WORK
TOGETHER ON EMISSIONS
INVENTORIES. WE DO AIR QUALITY
MODELING TOGETHER. UM TO SEE HOW
MUCH EMISSIONS NEED TO BE
REDUCED BY TO MEET FEDERAL
STANDARDS. AND THEN WE KIND OF
DIVIDE THE WORK THE LOCAL AIR
DISTRICTS AUTHORITIES, PRIMARILY
STATIONARY SOURCES, AND OVER
DECADES, WE'VE DEVELOPED
REGULATIONS THAT HAVE REDUCED
EMISSIONS FROM THOSE SOURCES BY
ABOUT 90. HOP IN TIMES THOSE
SOURCES HAVE BEEN. WE'VE GONE TO
THE MULTIPLE TIMES, THERE'S SOME
CATEGORIES WHERE WE'VE WRITTEN
FIVE DIFFERENT GENERATIONS OF
RULES. THAT ARE EXCEEDINGLY MORE
STRINGENT TO REDUCE EMISSIONS
FROM THOSE SOURCES. NOW
STATIONARY SOURCES ARE ABOUT 15%
OF OUR NITROGEN OXIDE EMISSIONS
, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF
BOTH THE OZONE AND PM
CONCENTRATIONS IN THE VALLEY.
MOBILE SOURCES WHICH CARB
CONTROLS ARE ABOUT 85% OF THE
CHALLENGE. WE THINK RATHER THAN
FOCUSING MORE ON PROCESS AND
MORE OVERSIGHT FROM CARB WHAT WE
REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR
TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO GET
MOBILE SOURCE EMISSIONS
REDUCTIONS. THERE HAVE BEEN A
LOT OF RECENT EXAMPLES THAT HAVE
SHOWED THAT CAN BE EFFECTIVE. I
WOULD LIKE TO POINT TO THE
FARMER PROGRAM, WHICH IS A
PROGRAM THAT'S REPLACED NEARLY
9000 TRACTORS WITH TRACTORS THAT
ARE 80 90% CLEANER THAN WHAT'S
OUT THERE. THOSE ARE THE
STRATEGIES THAT WILL BRING US
CLOSER TO ATTAINMENT AND NOT
NECESSARILY MORE PROCESS.
CURRENTLY THOSE PLANS I
DESCRIBED GO THROUGH A PUBLIC
PROCESS AT THE AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL. WE HOLD MULTIPLE
MEETINGS, WORKSHOPS, WORK
GROUPS. UM WE HAVE AN
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ADVISORY
GROUP THAT WEIGHS IN ON OUR
PLANS. WE HAVE FORCED A B 6 17
COMMUNITIES THAT PROVIDE INPUT
ON AIR QUALITY STRATEGIES IN THE
VALLEY. SO WE'RE MORE THAN
WILLING TO REACH OUT TO THE
COMMUNITY AND GET INPUT. UM BUT
WE THINK THE RESOURCES ARE WHAT
ARE REALLY NEED NEEDED TO DRIVE
ATTAINMENT. SO THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. YES, SIR. MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS BRENDAN TUAREG
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA AIR
POLLUTION CONTROL OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION, THE EXECUTIVE
OFFICERS FROM ALL 35 LOCAL AIR
DISTRICTS AND DEDICATED TO
CLEANING THE AIR FOR ALL OUR
RESIDENTS. WE ARE WE'RE DEEPLY
CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRECEDENT
THAT THIS SETS UM, WE CONCUR
WITH THE POINTS MADE BY MY
COLLEAGUE, MR JORDAN'S, AND WE
THINK THE BILL AGAIN IGNORES THE
ROLE OF MOBILE SOURCES IN ALL OF
THIS AIR DISTRICTS ARE WORKING
DILIGENTLY. TO TRY TO REDUCE
POLLUTION FROM STATIONARY
SOURCES WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK
FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THIS BILL JUST
CREATES ANOTHER LAYER OF
PROCESS. AT THE END OF WHICH WE
DON'T BELIEVE IS LIKELY TO
RESULT IN EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS
AND SO AGAIN, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE
THE LEGISLATURE TO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THROUGH
INCENTIVES SO THAT WE CAN
ACCELERATE REDUCTIONS. THAT'S
REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
THAT'S THE FASTEST, MOST
EFFICIENTLY TO DO IT TO CLEAN
THE AIR NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE FOCUSED ON. SO WE'RE
RESPECTFULLY IN OPPOSITION TO
THE MEASURE AND THANK YOU FOR
LISTENING TO MY TESTIMONY. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT. MM. OKAY SO I
UNDERSTAND. SO HOPEFULLY YOU
GUYS JUST ME DOING HERE OR OKAY,
GREAT. LET'S LET'S HEAR FROM
FOLKS WHO WANT TO WEIGH IN AN
OPPOSITION. MR CHAIR AND MEMBER
SYLVIA SALAS SHOW ON BEHALF OF
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE
COUNTIES OF FRESNO. KERN MADERA
, MERCED, STANISLAUS SAN
JOAQUIN, UNTIL ARY. IN STRONG
OPPOSITION, CONCERNED ABOUT THE
THIS BILL WOULD USURP LOCAL
CONTROL AND WE SINCERELY REQUEST
ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FUNDING
FOR THESE VERY SUCCESSFUL
INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE
CURRENTLY VERY EFFECTIVE
OVERSUBSCRIBED. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, SYLVIA. THANK YOU.
CATHERINE FREEMAN ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION
OF COUNTIES, THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA
AND THE URBAN COUNTIES OF
CALIFORNIA IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. ADMIT MR CHAIR MIKE ROBSON
ON BEHALF OF THE GLASS PACKAGING
INSTITUTE, AND I DID JUSTHAVE A
QUICK COMMENT SINCE I'M SO FAR
THE ONLY PERSON REPRESENTING A
BUSINESS GROUP APPEARING
INTEREST REALLY QUICK. THERE'S
THREE GLASS MANUFACTURING PLANTS
OPERATING IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY
AND EMPLOYING GREAT, YOU KNOW,
GREAT JOBS, GREAT UNION JOBS,
MAKING A GOOD PRODUCT, AND
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT YOU
COULD SQUEEZE STATIONARY SOURCES
IN THE SANDWICH, KING VALLEY AND
THOSE THOSE MANUFACTURING
COMPANIES ARE COMPLYING WITH
EVERYTHING THAT THE GENTLEMAN
FROM SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY AIR
POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT
TESTIFIED TO AND JUST THINK THE
BILL IS UNNECESSARY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MIKE. OKAY. PHONE
LINES. FOLKS WHO WANT TO JUST
LET US KNOW ABOUT THEIR
OPPOSITION. TO THIS BILL 25 50
MODERATOR. THANK YOU, MR PIERRE
. IF YOU ARE AN OPPOSITION TO 80
25 TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND
PRESS 10 WILL BEGIN TODAY WITH
FLYING 45 WHO ARE OPEN GOOD
MORNING. KILLED AND THE REASON
ANYONE CREATION. LINE. 26,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING,
MR CHAIR MEMBERS. THIS IS ROSS
BUCKLEY ON BEHALF OF STUFF
BECAUSE THEIR BODY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT IN OPPOSITION 51. YOU
ARE UP. 51. YES BETTER AND THEN
THIS WOULD BE BACK CALLING AND
SUPPORT FOR US JUSTICE SENATOR
IS PROBABLY AN ENVIRONMENT, THE
FAMILY BOTH AND CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ALLIANCE.
THANK YOU. LINE. 46, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, REBECCA
BASKINS ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
FRESH FRUIT ASSOCIATION,
CALIFORNIA COTTON JENNERS AND
GROWERS ASSOCIATION, WESTERN
PLANT HEALTH ASSOCIATION AND
OTHER AD ORGANIZATIONS AND
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. 9 44, YOU
ARE OPEN. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR
JOHN MOFFITT ON BEHALF OF THE
MILK PRODUCERS COUNCIL IN
OPPOSITION. 9 37, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. THIS IS NOEL
CRAMER'S WITH WINE INSTITUTE,
ALSO IN OPPOSITION. LANDLINE 49,
YOU ARE OPEN. GOOD MORNING, MR
CARON MEMBERS. TRICIA CARE,
INTER WITH AGRICULTURAL COUNCIL
OF CALIFORNIA. RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED AS WELL. THANK YOU. 9
36, PLEASE GO AHEAD. LAWRENCE
GAIN ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION, AND WE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSED LINE. 35, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS FABIAN URBINA WITH THE
WESTERN STATES PETROLEUM
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION. AND
AS A FINAL REMINDER, PLEASE
PRESS 10 IF YOU ARE IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 25 50, PLEASE
GO AHEAD LINE 50. GOOD MORNING
CHAIR AND MEMBERS K LITTLE
WITH CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU IN
OPPOSITION. BUYING 54. YOU ARE
UP. GOOD MORNING, SERGEANT.
GUESS WHAT THE CLOCK A GROUP
OPPOSED ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
COUNCIL FOR ECONOMIC AND
ENVIRONMENTAL BALANCE THETHANK
YOU AND LINE 23. YOU ARE OPEN.
GOOD MORNING, ANTHONY LOPEZ WITH
THE CITY OF AVEN ALL AND ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF AVENUE. WE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED. THANK YOU.
AND MR CHAIR THAT DOES CONCLUDE
PUBLIC COMMENTS. FOR A B 25 50
THANK YOU SO MUCH MODERATOR.
ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE
COMMITTEE. FOR QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS, SENATOR DOLLY THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. REMEMBER,
ARAMBULA. I FEEL YOUR PASSION
FOR THIS. THE AREA YOU
REPRESENT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE
CHALLENGES THAT ARE FACED. IN
PARTIALLY, I JUST WANT TO
COMMENT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
HOW THE LEGISLATURE'S LOOKED AT
OVER THE 10 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE
AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO
UM YOU KNOW, HELP THE AIR
QUALITY IN THE VALLEY. NOT NOT
JUST SAN JOAQUIN, WHICH WE KNOW
IS SOME OF THE WORST IN THE
NATION. AND QUITE FRANKLY,
THAT'S DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE
HAVE THE TOPOGRAPHY. WE HAVE THE
SIERRAS AND WE HAVE A VALLEY
WHERE THERE'S STAG. IT'S VERY
IT'S MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE AIR
TO MOVE THROUGH THOSE REGIONS,
AND SO THE NON POINT SOURCE.
POLLUTION IS THE POINT SOURCE.
WE CAN WE CAN WE HAVE DONE A LOT
OF WORK IN THAT AREA. BUT THE
NON POINT WHERE WITH THIS THE
MOBILE OR IT'S THE ABILITY TO BE
ABLE TO ACTUALLY PINPOINT DOWN
WHERE THAT POLLUTION IS COMING
FROM, AND THEN YOU KNOW, THERE'S
THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS OR SEVERAL
OTHER DISTRICTS. THIS SINGLES
OUT ONE DISTRICT WHAT'S YOUR
THOUGHT? PROCESS ON ON HOW WE
ACTUALLY MEET THE GOAL THAT THEY
WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE BY ONLY
USING ONE DISTRICT. THERE'S 10
DISTRICTS IN THE BASIN THERE.
CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME THOUGHT
PROCESS AND INSIGHT ON HOW HOW
THAT WOULD LOOK USUALLY WHEN I'M
FACING OF QUESTION LIKE THIS AND
FOCUSED ON THE PEOPLE WHO WILL
IMPACT AND SO IF WE WILL REMIND
OURSELVES IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY
, IT'S ONE IN FOUR KIDS WHO ARE
IMPACTED BY ASTHMA. THAT WE HAVE
THREE TIMES THE STATE AVERAGE OF
11 TO 17 YEAR OLDS WHO ARE GOING
TO THE ER, WHERE I SAW THEM AND
SEEING FIRSTHAND THE IMPACTS ON
OUR CHILDREN. I MUST ASK THAT WE
CONTINUE TO DO MORE. IT'S BEEN
25 YEARS. SO WE HAVE NOT MET
THESE NATIONAL AIR. AMBIENT
QUALITY STANDARDS WOULD ASK THAT
WE DO EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR
POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
DOING THE MOST FOR CHILDREN IN
COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE. WELL, I
DON'T DISAGREE THAT YOU HAVE THE
MOST HEALTH RISK, FOLKS, BUT HOW
IS THIS BILL? GOING TO CHANGE
THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT. IT'S
NOT. ABOUT THE SOURCE IS NOT.
THE ISSUE IS THE NON POINT
SOURCE THAT IS COMING INTO YOUR
COMMUNITY? SO IF YOU TAKE THE 10
DISTRICTS AND YOU TAKE ONE
DISTRICT WHERE YOU HAVE THE
HIGHEST RATE THESE OTHER NINE
DISTRICTS ARE ACTUALLY IMPACTING
YOUR DISTRICT. BUT IF YOU CHANGE
THE LAW IN THIS ONE DISTRICT,
YOU'RE NOT REALLY FIXING THE
PROBLEM BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS
NOT JUST IN THAT DISTRICT. IT'S
10 DISTRICTS. THAT'S THAT'S THE
QUESTION I'M TRYING TO. I'M
TRYING TO GET IN FACT AS IF WE
WERE IF WE'RE REALLY GOING TO
FOCUS ON HOW WE ACTUALLY SAVE
HEALTH IN IN THE IN THE SAN
JOAQUIN VALLEY, NOT JUST SAYING
WALKING BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS
A PACIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREAS THAT
IS IMPACTED BY IT'S A BIT OF
FRUSTRATION OF MINE THAT THAT IF
YOU'RE IN IN SAN FRANCISCO,
WHERE YOU HAVE THE PACIFIC WINDS
BLOW OFF THAT THERE'S NO
POLLUTER OUT IN THE OCEAN.
EXCEPT FOR IN LAST YEAR IN SAN
DIEGO, WHERE YOU HAVE SHIPS
SITTING OUT THERE, BUT TYPICALLY
YOU HAVE FRESH AIR, SO THOSE
PEOPLE CAN THEIR THEIR LAWS ARE
DIFFERENT THAN YOURS IN SAN
JOAQUIN, BECAUSE THEY HAVE
NOBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
THEM, INCLUDING THEIR AIR.
WHAT'S HAPPENING TO YOU IS
YOU'RE HAVING POLLUTION FROM SAN
FRANCISCO ENDING UP IN THE
VALLEY WHERE YOU'RE AT AND IT'S
STAGNANT AIR AND SITTING THERE
REGULATING THIS ONE. DISTRICT
HOW IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE?
THAT'S MY POINT. I WANT TO HELP
YOU, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS
ACTUALLY GOING TO DO IT. THAT'S
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. I
BELIEVE OUR HOPE IS THAT CARD
WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE BETTER
MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT AND
WILL BE ABLE TO HELP OR AIR
DISTRICT TO ACHIEVE THOSE
NATIONAL ERA AMBIENT QUALITY
STANDARDS. THE CENTER GONZALEZ
FOLLOWED BY CENTER WIECKOWSKI.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND THANK
YOU ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, UM I
UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW WHAT IS
BEING ASKED OF MY SENATE
COLLEAGUE HERE, BUT I ALSO
UNDERSTAND HAVING COME FROM A
DISTRICT SIMILAR TO YOURS THAT
HAS SOME OF THE WORST AIR
QUALITY IN THE NATION. IT'S
USUALLY SOUTH COAST AND SAN
JOAQUIN, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE
AND YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF OUR
DISTRICTS THE IT MATTERS TO HAVE
MORE COMMUNITY INPUT. IT MATTERS
TO ENSURE THAT YES, WE MIGHT
HAVE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON
THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE SIDE,
BUT IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH. MANY
OF THESE FOLKS, I'VE GOT A
DISTRICT THAT HAS BIG ZAID
THERAGENICS THAT YOU KNOW, THE
COMMUNITY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE
CHEMICALS IN THE AIR AFTER TWO
WEEKS. AND SO THEY NEED MORE
INPUT. THEY NEED AN OPPORTUNITY
TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE. UM THE AIR
QUALITY DISTRICTS IN A DIFFERENT
WAY. AND IT SHOULDN'T BE, YOU
KNOW, CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE TO
ENSURE THAT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
MORE MORE OVERSIGHT AND MORE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO WEIGH
IN. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS
BILL. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO DO
SO AS WELL. AND I WOULD LOVE TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU. EVEN
THOUGH IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT. I
THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF ALIGNMENT
IN WHAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER FOR
OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SENATOR MCCASKEY. MY
COLLEAGUE, SENATOR DOLLY MAKES
SOME GOOD POINTS. HE SITS ON SUB
TWO WITH ME, AND WE HAVE HEARD
FROM THE LOCAL AIR DISTRICTS
ABOUT THE NEED FOR FUNDING AND
I'M CONCERNED. THAT THAT THIS IS
NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
I MEAN ON PAGE FIVE OF THE STAFF
REPORT, THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB
OF POINTING OUT THAT WE DON'T
PICK UNDER THE FEDERAL CLEAN AIR
ACT. WE DON'T PICK WHERE THESE
FOR THESE POINTS, SOURCES GO,
AND SOMETIMES THEY PUT THEM
RIGHT WHERE THERE'S A WILDFIRE
OR RIGHT WHERE THERE'S SOME
LOCAL CONTAMINATION THAT TAKES
THE WHOLE DISTRICT OUT. I'M NOT
DISPUTING THAT PEOPLE HAVE HIGH
INCIDENCE OF ASTHMA, BUT TO
REACH NONATTAINMENT, THERE'S A
COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON. WE
WANT TO IMPROVE THE AIR QUALITY.
KUMBAYA BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE
SURE WE'RE IN THE FEDERAL
ATTAINMENT. AND WE DON'T CONTROL
THAT. THE REGIONAL IMPORTANCE
DON'T CONTROL THOSE MONITORS. GO
THE STATE DOESN'T DO IT. WE'RE
STUCK WITH WHAT THE FEDERAL
CLEAN ACT AS AND IF ONE MONITORS
OUT. THE WHOLE THE WHOLE
DISTRICT HITS NONATTAINMENT, SO
I DON'T THAT'S A PROBLEM. THAT'S
A PROBLEM BECAUSE ALL THE GOOD
WORK THAT'S DONE GETS THROWN UP
BECAUSE WE GOT A WILDFIRE AND IT
JUST HAPPENS TO HIT SAN JOAQUIN
VALLEY OR THE SMOKE GOES THERE.
IT'S JUST IT'S NUTTY. UM BECAUSE
IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE WORK THAT
WE'RE DOING. THERE SO. THE BILL
CALLS FOR MORE MONITORING. I
MEAN, YOU KNOW WE'RE DOING THIS.
I'VE BEEN A CRITIC OF A B 617
BECAUSE WE'RE COLLECTING DATA,
BUT WE'RE NOT FIXING THE
PROBLEM. WE'RE NOT PUTTING
RESOURCES SKIN TO MOBILE SOURCES
. PEOPLE DRIVING FROM L. A OVER
TORQUE AND IN THEIR POLLUTING,
THEY'RE CREATING A PROBLEM HERE,
SO I DON'T KNOW. WE ALL AGREE
THERE'S A PROBLEM. OK, THERE'S
NONATTAINMENT. SOME OF IT IS OUT
OF OUR CONTROL. BRINGING THE
STATE IN TO DO MORE MONITORING
AND TO DO MORE GROUP MEETINGS.
THAT'S NOT GIVING THE RESOURCES
TO WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED,
WHETHER IT'S THE FARMER PROGRAM
OR THE SWEET PROGRAM WHERE CARL
MOYER OR WHO KNOWS, I MEAN,
THERE'S A LOT OF LOT OF PROGRAMS
THAT ATTACK MOBILE SOURCES. SO I
GUESS I'M. I AM CONCERNED WELL
INTENDED WELL INTENDED, BUT I
DON'T KNOW IF IT FIXES THE
PROBLEM WITH HAVING THE STATE
BOARD. TWO MORE MONITORING.
THERE'S FOUR THINGS THAT THE
BILL DOES. AND, UH. HOLD THE
PUBLIC HEARING AND TRYING TO
ACHIEVE THE GAPS. I THINK THAT
THE LOCAL GUYS, THEY KNOW WHAT
THE GAPS ARE, UM, AND JUST
PECULIARITIES OF THE FEDERAL
CLEAN AIR ACT. I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU WISH TO COMMENT ON IT. IT'S
YOU KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF I FEEL
YOUR PAIN LIKE MY COLLEAGUE FROM
LONG BEACH DOES, BUT I AM. I'M
IN THE GAME HERE. I WANT TO FIX
THE PROBLEM AND I WE HAVE
LIMITED RESOURCES AND LIMITED
ATTENTION. AND WHERE DO WE SPEND
THOSE THINGS? AND I DON'T KNOW
IF ADDITIONAL MONITORING AND
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS BY AN AGENCY
IN THE STATE. THAT IS TEST WITH
MOBILE SOURCES TO GO IN FOR
STATIONARY SOURCES BECAUSE THE
STATIONARY SOURCES APPARENTLY
AREN'T THE PROBLEM. THANK YOU,
SENATOR. FOR THE QUESTION. I
WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE CAN'T
CONTROL WITH THE FEDERAL FEDS DO
AND WHERE THEY PLACED THOSE
MONITORS. I WILL STATE THAT
WILDFIRES SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING
THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE
PERVASIVE HERE IN OUR STATE. AND
THUS BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
US TO FIND SOLUTIONS WITHIN THAT
MATRIX. I WILL POINT OUT IF I
CAN. I'M STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF
INCREASING FUNDING FOR THOSE
PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
ADDRESSING THE MOBILE. SOURCES
BUT MUSTASK THAT THE CALIFORNIA
AIR RESOURCES BOARD STEP IN
BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY RIGHT NOW ARE
LOCALS HAVE CHALLENGED THROUGH A
LAWSUIT OR FEDERAL EPA FOR NOT
MEETING THOSE STANDARDS, AND
IT'S PLACED AT RISK OR HIGHWAY
FUNDS. AT SOME POINT. WE AS A
STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT
ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE
CLEAN AIR AND I WOULD ASK THAT
WE MAKE SURE THAT CARB IS
WORKING WITH US ON ALL SOURCES,
BOTH MOBILE AND STATIONARY TO
ADDRESS THAT NONATTAINMENT, BUT
YOU KNOW, 11 OF THE YOU WANT TO
COORDINATE. UM OUTREACH TO UNDER
SOURCE COMMUNITIES. SHE DID YOU
I MEAN FROM ALL THE HEARINGS
THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IN
SUB TO SAN JOAQUIN MAJESTIC HAS
BEEN ON TOP OF THE GAME OF GOING
OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND DOING
IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE THE
AIR BOARD WOULD DO THE STATE
AIRPORT WOULD DO AND HOW THAT
WOULD HELP WITH ATTAINMENT. I
MEAN, I CAN SEE THAT, OKAY, THEY
CAN. THEY CAN COME IN AND SAY,
OH, MOVE ASIDE. YOU GUYS AREN'T
DOING A GOOD JOB. WE'RE GOING TO
THE HEARINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO
INVITE THE COMMUNITY AND NOW
WE'RE GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
BUT THAT THAT'S JUST A HEARING.
IT'S JUST A MEETING RIGHT? I
WILL GIVE YOU A 10. TANGIBLE
EXAMPLE. IF I CAN, THEY CAN
LISTEN TO WHAT COMMUNITY IS
GIVING FOR INPUT AS AN EXAMPLE.
WE'VE BEEN COMPLAINING LOCALLY.
THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING
AND FIGHTING FOR MAKING SURE
THAT OUR FIREPLACES ARE BEING
ADDRESSED, WHICH IS A NECESSARY
PROBLEM FOR US TO BE LOOKING AT
, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ADDRESSING
THE AG BURNING THAT'S OCCURRING
IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR
COMMUNITY GROUPS OR
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS HAVE BEEN
RAISING THESE CONCERNS FOR YEARS
, AND THE AIR DISTRICT STILL HAS
NOT IMPLEMENTED THAT AND HAS
PLANS TO BUY 2024. I BELIEVE BUT
IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG. AND AS
THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF ONE
OF THE REASONS WY IT'S TAKEN 25
YEARS FOR US TO GET INTO
ATTAINMENT IF THE DISTRICT WAS
BETTER ABLE TO WORK WITH THESE
COMMUNITY GROUPS AND TO LISTEN
TO THEIR INPUT. THERE MAY NOT
NEED TO BE THIS OTHER PROCESS,
BUT THE NEED FOR IT IS THE FACT
THAT WE HAVE NOT REACHED THE
ATTAINMENT. THAT WE HAVE NOT
BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH OUR LOCAL
GROUPS ON THE PROBLEMS AND I
WILL JUST ON A PERSONAL LEVEL
SAY THAT CALENDAR VIRAL SCREEN.
THE WORST CENSUS TRACT IN THE
STATE WAS ACROSS THE STREET FROM
MY HIGH SCHOOL. I DON'T THINK
THEY WERE LISTENING TO OUR
COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MAKING
SURE THAT WE WERE GETTING ALL OF
THE RESOURCES AND ATTENTION THAT
WE DESERVED. AND BELIEVE THAT WE
NEED TO LOOK TOWARDS CARB TO
HELP US TO CROSS THIS BRIDGE AND
WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT
TODAY. THAT IS FINE. I WOULD
JUST NOTE THAT IT WAS A STATE
THAT REQUIRED THAT YOU COULD NO
LONGER DO AGRICULTURAL BURNING.
THAT'S ONLY BEEN TWO YEARS AND
WE HAVEN'T YET WE'RE WORKING ON
IT AND SUB TO GET RESOURCES TO
DO THAT, AND ALSO HELP WITH
ORGANIC WASTE AGAIN THAT 13 83
PROBLEMS WE JUST GAVE THE SENATE
GAVE MONEY. LAST YEAR, WE GAVE
ANOTHER 180 THAT THE ASSEMBLY
AGREED TO. SO THE HELP IS ON ITS
WAY. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND FOR
PEOPLE ON THE GROUND. IT'S NEVER
FAST ENOUGH. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. OKAY? I THINK YOU MADE A
DECENT CLOTHES THERE. AH! THE
BILL HAS BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
GONZALEZ IF YOU HAVE ANY FINAL
POINTS THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR OKAY. THANK
YOU. UM AND OF COURSE YOU DO.
YOU HAVE ACCEPTED THE
AMENDMENTS, AND I APPRECIATE YOU
WORKING WITH US AT LEAST RESOLVE
SOME OF THE MORE PRESSING
OPPOSITION CONCERNS. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. OKAY ITEM NUMBER NINE
A. B. 25 50 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
OF ARAMBULA MOTION IS DUE PASS
AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMENDING
WE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS ALAN BATES NÓ.
BATES NO DOLLY DOLLY! NO
GONZALEZ GONZALEZ ICE SKINNER
SKINNER. I STERN WIECKOWSKI. HI,
WIECKOWSKI. AYE. OKAY, SO THAT
IS A 4 TO 2 VOTE WE WILL ALLOW.
WE'LL HOLD THAT OPEN FOR CENTERS
TURNED TO ADD ON. BUT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT I
SEE A SIMILAR BENNETT HERE. SURE
THANK COUNT HAS BEEN MOVED.
SECRETARY, PLEASE. COLORADO. AND
THE CONTENT CALENDAR ITEMS
NUMBER SEVEN AND EIGHT. THE
MOTION IS DO PASS AND BE ORDERED
TO CONSENT CALENDAR. ALAN ALAN
BATES, BATES, DALI, DALI
GONZALEZ. GONZALEZ I, SKINNER
SKINNER. I STERN WIECKOWSKI
WIECKOWSKI I THANK YOU. WE'LL
LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR SENATOR.
NET. LET'S GO TO YOU NOW,
SENATOR. BENNETT SILLY MEMBER
BENNETT. WE'LL START WITH THEM
TOO. THAT'S A B 13 69. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH GOOD MORNING, CHAIR
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 13 69
MAKES MODIFICATIONS TO THE
STATE'S EXISTING BY CLEAN
PROGRAM BY ADDING INTERIOR
MATERIALS TO THE LIST OF
MATERIALS FOR WHICH THE
DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES
MUST DEVELOP MAXIMUM ACCEPTABLE
GLOBAL WARMING POTENTIAL LIMIT.
THIS BILL WILL ALSO ALLOW GS TO
UPDATE THE LIST OF MATERIALS
THAT THE BIKE CLEAN PROGRAM
INCLUDES AND MAKES CLEAR THAT
INTERIOR MATERIALS ADDED SHALL
BE EVALUATED AND BASED ON A
PRODUCT SPECIFIC GLOBAL WARMING
POTENTIAL BECAUSE THEY ARE OFTEN
MADE BY A SINGLE MANUFACTURER
WHO CAN KEEP TRACK OF THE
EMBEDDED CARBON THE BIKE CAME
CLEAN PROGRAM HAS ALWAYS BEEN
INTENDED TO ENSURE THAT THE
PRODUCTS CHOSEN FOR STATE
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS UP HAVE
THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ABETTED
CARBON WHILE LEAVING DECISIONS
OF DESIGN AND SPECIFIC MATERIALS
TO ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS, AND
NOTHING IN THIS BILL CHANGES
THAT 13 69 TAKES AN IMPORTANT
STEP FORWARD AND STRENGTHENING
OUR BY CLEAN PROGRAM ON THE
PHONE TO TESTIFY TODAY AND
SUPPORT IS DANIEL BARD OF THE
SIERRA CLUB AND BRUCE FROM THE
ECO BUILDING NETWORK WHO'S
TESTIFYING IN PLACE OF A WITNESS
WE ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED TO THE
COMMITTEE. VERY GOOD. GO AHEAD
SIERRA CLUB. MORNING, DANIEL
BERARD'S ARE YOU THERE? OKAY.
HOW ABOUT MR BRUCE FROM E O
BUILDING? NETWORK. HMM. IS THERE
ANYBODY ON THE TELEPHONE LINE
WHO IS IN SUPPORT? HOLD THAT.
OPERATED. IS THERE ANYBODY IN
ROOM 1200 IN SUPPORT OF THIS
MEASURE ONCE YOU COME FORWARD
OPERATOR? COME FORWARD HERE.
SOUNDS LIKE THE OPERATOR. GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS QUINCY
JOHNSTON AND WITH CALIFORNIANS
AGAINST WASTE AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. OPERATOR, ARE YOU THERE?
STAYING HERE IS DANIEL BERARD'S
ON THE LINE. NO. IS MR BRUCE
FROM E O BUILDING NETWORK ON THE
LINE ECO BUILDING ECO BUILDING.
NO UNLESS THEY CALLED IN AS
PARTICIPANTS LIKE FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT. ALRIGHT SO LET'S LET'S
HIT THE LINES. GO TO THE CALLERS
AND SEE THIS IS THIS IS IN
SUPPORT FOR A B 13 69 BY
BENNETT. THANKS TO MR CARE IF
YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF 80 13 69,
PLEASE PRESS 10. AT THIS TIME WE
WILL BEGIN. TONLINE 28 AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING. THIS IS DANIEL
BRAD, WITH THEIR CLUB HAD
TROUBLE PROBABLY IN ON. THAT
REMINDS ME I PROCEED TESTIMONY.
GO AHEAD. OKAY. GREAT DANIEL
BRYAN ON BEHALF OF THEIR CLUB,
CALIFORNIA WE'RE IN CHARGE
SUPPORT THAT MAYBE 13 69, WHICH
WOULD EXPAND CLAIMED CALIFORNIA
ACT. AND COMMON SENSE AN
IMPORTANT WAY MAYBE 13 69 BUILT
ON THE BIKE LANE FRAMEWORK. AND
IT TENDS TO ACT BY ADDING A
SMALL SET OF INTERIOR PRODUCTS
FOR THEIR TYPE POTENTIAL FOR
CARBON PROTECTION, AND IT ALSO
PAVED THE WAY FOR DVDS TO ADD
MATERIALS STATE THAT BECOMES
AVAILABLE. IN MORE PRODUCTS AND
MATERIALS. PASSPORT WAS ALWAYS
INTENDED TO FOOD MORE PRODUCTS.
AMERICAN TOOLS ARE MAKING
GATHERING THE DATA NECESSARY
EXCHANGE PROGRAM. HE'S HERE FOR
BOTH MANUFACTURERS IN THE STATE
. SO THIS IS THE SENSIBLE NEXT
STEP IN ADDRESSING CARBON
EMISSIONS IN CALIFORNIA FIVE
CHANGE THERE ARE REPORTS THAT
TELL AND RESPECTFULLY AFTER I
BOTH THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR A
GOOD NEXT. AN EXPERT AND I GO TO
LINE 48 AHEAD. THIS IS THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL MOTORS
AND SUPPORT. FINAL REMINDER. 13
AND. SIX GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS PERSONALLY ON BEHALF OF
THE NECESSARY ACTION. CAMPAÑA
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THEY'RE
NEITHER PARTICIPANTS UP. JUST
FINE. OKAY, WELL, THEN WE'LL GO
TO THE OPPOSITION. OTHER MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC I DON'T HAVE ANY,
UH, FORMAL OPPOSITION. ANYBODY
HITTING IN PUBLIC HERE SEEING
NOBODY COMING UP TO THE AH,
MICROPHONE. MODERATOR, CAN YOU
PLEASE CALL THOSE QUEUING WHO
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION OF A B 13 16 HÌNH
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO HB
13 69 1 GIRL. AND NOBODY IS
QUEUING UP AT THIS TIME, MR. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S
GO TO OPPOSITION QUESTIONS
QUESTIONS QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMITTEE. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
YOU, SENATOR WIECKOWSKI. SEVERAL
MEMBER BENNETT. THE OPPOSITION
LETTER POINTS OUT ON THEY AGREE
ON THREE OF THE PRODUCTS THAT
INSULATION SEEMS TO BE THE
DISPUTE, AND THEY SAY THE
EMBEDDED CARBON REDUCTION COULD
BE QUITE MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE
AGGREGATE INSULATION OR
PROTECTION OF EVIDENCE. ELATED
HOUSE OR INSULATED BUILDING. CAN
YOU COMMENT ON THAT? YES THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE SAW THAT
COMMENT ALSO. THE EMBEDDED
CARBON CAN BE. THE INSULATION
CAN BE BROKEN DOWN BY BY THE
DEPARTMENT SO THAT YOU COULD
HAVE IT FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF
INSULATION. AND SO AN ARCHITECT
CAN CHOOSE A SPECIFIC TYPE OF
INSULATION THAT THEY WANT, AND
WE WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WHEN THEY CHOSE AMONGST THE
VARIOUS DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT
WE HAD THE PROPER RANKING, SO
THAT WE DO NOT SACRIFICE. WE DO
NOT SACRIFICE SORT OF THE CHOICE
IN TERMS OF INSULATION. JUST THE
FACT THAT SOMETHING MAY HAVE A
SLIGHTLY A SLIGHT INCREASE IN
TERMS OF THE OF THE CARBON
REDUCTION THAT COMES FROM THE
INSULATION. WHEN WE COULD
POTENTIALLY HAVE A SUPERIOR
PRODUCT OUT THERE SO BY ALLOWING
THE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THE
DISTINCTION BETWEEN DIFFERENT
TYPES OF INSULATION EACH
CATEGORY SO AN ARCHITECT CAN
CHOOSE A PARTICULAR CATEGORY. WE
THINK THAT ADDRESSES THE CONCERN
, AND WE THINK THAT IT IS THE
APPROPRIATE TRADE OFF IN THIS
SITUATION. SO HOW WOULD THE HOW
WOULD THE BUYER OR THE ARCHITECT
OR THE DEVELOPER KNOW WHEN THEY
GO TO THE VIæT? CLEAN CALIFORNIA
THERE WOULD BE. OUR SUITE OF
INSTALLATIONS, WHICH WOULD BE
SCORED BASED ON IN EACH CATEGORY
WILL BE SCORED SEPARATELY, SO
THEY COULD SAY WE WANT WOOL
INSULATION. AND IF THEY WANT
WOOL INSULATION THEY HAVE TO
CHOOSE AMONGST THE WOOL
INSULATION. THEY MAY CHOOSE HATE
POLYURETHANE INSULATION. AND IF
THEY'RE CHOOSING, WE JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY
CHOOSE, BUT IT'S UP TO THEM TO
CHOOSE WHETHER THEY WANT WOOL OR
POLYURETHANE INSULATION WITH THE
WITH THE VARIOUS TRADE OFFS THAT
THEY HAVE THERE. AND I DON'T SEE
ANY OPPOSITION. SO I ASSUME THAT
THAT THAT CLARIFICATION IS
SUFFICIENT. I CERTAINLY HOPE SO.
ALL RIGHT, THANKS. OKAY? ALRIGHT
OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS
CONCERNS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
YEAH WE MOVED BY WIECKOWSKI.
OKAY WE LET YOU CLOSE AND THEN
YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT DOOR. I
APPRECIATE THE QUESTION FOR FROM
SENATOR AND THE THOROUGHNESS IN
TERMS OF TRYING TO REVIEW AND
MAKE SURE THIS IS GOOD POLICY.
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY
VOTE. OKAY LET'S CALL THE ROLL.
SECRETARY ITEM NUMBER TWO A. B
13 69 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS,
BUT FIRST THREE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
ALLEN. HI, ALAN. I BATES. IF
IT'S NOT VOTING DELI, GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ ICE SKINNER SKINNER. I
STERN WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI,
AYE. OKAY THAT HAS FOUR VOTES SO
WE WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR. BEFORE THE ONE WITH ONE
ABSTENTION. YES, BUT WE STILL
NEED TO HEAR FROM SENATOR STERN
IF HE'S GOING TO GET HERE. THANK
YOU. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND
PROCEED WITH YOUR NEXT BILL?
THAT'S ITEM THREE A B 25 32
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IN 2000 AND
SIX, THE LEGISLATURE PASSED THE
GROUNDBREAKING CLIMATE CHANGE
ACT 32. AS PART OF THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THAT BILL CARB
UNDERTAKING SCOPING PLAN EVERY
FIVE YEARS AND IDENTIFY HOW THE
STATE CAN REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS
ADMISSIONS, HOWEVER, EXCEPT IN A
LIMITED NUMBER OF STATUTORY
REQUIREMENTS, THE DEPARTMENTS
AND AGENCIES THAT ARE ASSIGNED
VARIOUS TASKS IN THE SCOPING
PLAN. DO NOT REPORT TO THE
LEGISLATURE AND NOT EVEN TO CARB
IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE DOING IN
TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING
LEGISLATION. IT SEEMS THAT THAT
MEANS THAT WE ARE ALL SORT OF
FLYING BLIND IN TERMS OF KNOWING
HOW THINGS ARE GOING IN THE
INTERIM BETWEEN THE FIVE YEAR
UPDATES OF THE PLAN. HAVE SO
THIS BILL IS A COMMON SENSE
APPROACH. IT JUST REQUIRES THE
PUBLIC POSTING OF THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY HAS
IDENTIFIED AS AS IN THE PLAN TO
BE ADOPTING CERTAIN ACTIONS WE
SHOULD ANNUALLY FIND OUT HOW HOW
ARE THEY DOING SO THAT WE CAN
REINFORCE DEPARTMENTS AND
AGENCIES THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD
PROMPTLY? WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT
ARE THE PROBLEMS OR WHAT ARE THE
HURDLES? WHAT'S KEEPING A
DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY FROM MOVING
FORWARD? SO THE REPORT SIMPLY
ASKED FOR THEM TO LET US KNOW
WHICH OF THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE
THEY FULLY IMPLEMENTED, WHICH
HAVE THEY PARTIALLY IMPLEMENTED?
WHICH HAVE THEY NOT STARTED ON
YET. AND WHAT ARE THE HURDLES
THAT ARE KEEPING THEM FROM
MOVING FORWARD? IF THERE ARE
HURDLES THAT ARE IMPLEMENTING
THEIR IMPLEMENTATION? HARMS AND
THIS BILL HAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT
IN THE ASSEMBLY AND APPRECIATE
THE SENATE. SUPPORTED THIS BILL
TODAY, OKAY? AND I UNDERSTAND
YOU GOT YOU GOTTA AM SORRY. YES
WE HAVE A LECTURE CHAVEZ FROM
CALIFORNIA'S AGAINST WASTE.
OKAY. HEY THERE, YOU MAY PROCEED
. GOOD MORNING, ALEXA CHAVEZ
WITH CALIFORNIA'S AGAINST WASTE.
BY THE STATE'S LANDMARK CLIMATE
LAW. A B 32 IS OFTEN ASSOCIATED
WITH REGULATIONS ADOPTED
DIRECTLY BY THE AIR RESOURCES
BOARD'S SUCH AS THE CABIN TRADE
SYSTEM AND THE LOW CARBON FUEL
STANDARD. HOWEVER SINCE ITS
PASSAGE, MAYBE 32 HAS ALSO
RELIED ON OTHER AGENCIES TO
TARGET REDUCTION. PRODUCTION'S
GOING BEYOND LOOKING AT
TAILPIPES AND SMOKESTACKS TO
FIND OPPORTUNITIES TO TACKLE GHG
EMISSIONS ACROSS OTHER SECTORS,
DESPITE THE ORIGINAL FOCUS OF
CROSS AGENCY COOPERATION HAS
BEEN DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF STRATEGIES. BY
DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES
AGENCIES IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS.
ANNUAL REPORTING ON WEBSITES
SHOULD INCREASE THE FOCUS OF
EACH DEPARTMENT AND AGENCY ON
THE SUGGESTED ACTIONS IDENTIFIED
IN THE SCOPING PLAN WILL
INCREASING THE SENSE OF
ACCOUNTABILITY TO AN OVERSIGHT
BY THE LEGISLATURE AND THE
PUBLIC. A B 25 32 IS AIMED AT
PROVIDING THIS CRUCIAL
INFORMATION FROM THE APPROPRIATE
STATE AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS
TO THE LEGISLATURE THROUGH
ANNUAL REPORTING ON THEIR
WEBSITES. FOR THESE REASONS. WE
URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THE SPILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE HERE WANT TO WIN
SUPPORT? OF THE BILL. OKAY,
LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINES,
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO VOICE THEIR
SUPPORT. FOR 25 32. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR IF YOU AREN'T
SUPPORTIVE ÁP 25 32 PLEASE PRESS
10 UNPOWERED 50 FOR SUPPORT 80
25 32 OUR FIRST ONE WILL BE LIKE
58 AHEAD. MICHAEL GERRARD ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
INSTITUTE FOR BIODIVERSITY IN
SUPPORT OF THE CELL. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANYONE
ELSE REMINDER OF 10 SUPPORT OF
ÁP 25 32. NOBODY IS DOING UP
THIS TIME. OKAY GREAT. LET'S NOW
THANK YOU. LET'S LET'S ANYONE
ANYONE VOICE OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. 25 32 ANYONE HERE IN
PERSON? ANYONE ON THE PHONE
LINES? OPPOSITION. I KNOW WE
DON'T HAVE ANY REGISTERED
OPPOSITION. ANYONE THE PHONE
LINES MODERATOR, THANK YOU TO
EXPRESS OPPOSITION. THE 80 25 32
PRESSED ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO.
AND MR CHAIR. NOBODY IS QUEUING
UP. ALL RIGHT, LET'S BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE CENTER.
SKINNER. THANK YOU. UM SOME
REMEMBER, I NOTE IN THE ANALYSIS
THAT SO I APPRECIATE THE PURPOSE
OF THE BILL IS TO TRY TO HAVE
ALL OF US IN THE PUBLIC. AND
KNOW WHAT PROGRESS AGENCIES ARE
MAKING ON THERE. THE PORTION OF
OUR GHG REDUCTIONS THAT THEY ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR HOWEVER, AS THE
ANALYSIS POINTS OUT THIS DOES
NOT REQUIRE ANYONE TO VERIFY.
THAT WHICH IS REPORTED AND
POSTED ON THE AGENCY'S WEBSITE.
WHERE ANYONE TO AUDIT SO IT.
THERE IS A TRUST INVOLVED HERE,
OBVIOUSLY, BUT I GUESS. HAD YOU
THOUGHT ABOUT. TRYING TO REQUIRE
SOME VERIFICATION AND DID YOU
NOT BECAUSE OF FEARS ABOUT
INCREASED COSTS? ON THE BILL OR. JUST DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE
BIT. IT'S CERTAINLY INCREASED
ACCOUNTABILITY SEEMS TO HAVE
WIDESPREAD SUPPORT IN THE
LEGISLATURE. AS I MENTIONED
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IN THE
LEGISLATURE. AND WE ENDEAVOR TO
TRY TO FIND THE MOST PRACTICAL
AND COMMON SENSE WAY TO DO THAT
. AND SO WE WORKED HARD AND HAD
QUITE A FEW CONVERSATIONS WITH
DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES AND
CERTAINLY COST IS ONE OF THE
ISSUES AND I THINK WE WANTED
AWAY AS THEY TRIED TO MOVE
FORWARD, AND WE TRIED TO DO IT
IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY WITH THE
DEPARTMENTS AND WITH CARB THAT
THIS SEEMED LIKE THE APPROPRIATE
FIRST STEP IF WE FEEL THAT THERE
WERE GETTING MISLEADING
INFORMATION IN THESE REPORTS.
THAT COULD BE THAT AN ADDITIONAL
STEP THAT COMES AFTERWARDS BUT
TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE POINT
OF ADDING THE EXTRA COST OF WHAT
KIND OF AUDITING WOULD TAKE
PLACE? ETCETERA SEEMED LIKE AN
OVERREACH. AT THIS POINT IN
TIME, WE THINK IT CERTAINLY THIS
HAVING THE REPORTS AND HAVING
THE DEPARTMENT'S FEEL THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF HEY, WE HAVE
TO REPORT SOMETHING AT THE END
OF THE YEAR IS A TREMENDOUS
IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS SIMPLY. I
WAS STUNNED WHEN I ASKED CARB.
HOW ARE THE DEPARTMENTS AND
AGENCIES DOING AND THEIR
RESPONSES? WE DON'T KNOW. AND SO
WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE THIS
FIRST BEGINNING STEP OF THIS.
BUT I APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE IN
YOUR CORRECT THAT CERTAINLY
LEGISLATORS AND OR THE PUBLIC.
IF THEY CAN CHALLENGE THE
INFORMATION IN THE REPORT, OR
CAN BE THE SOURCE OF OVERSIGHT
HEARINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, SO I
APPRECIATE THAT AND I'LL MOVE
THE BILL. OKAY, SENATOR,
DARLING. THE CHAIR. I AM. I KNOW
THERE'S A BIPARTISAN BILL AND I
THINK THE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO
BE ASKED ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THAT
YOU KNOW? WHO REPORTS AND WHAT
THE REPORTING IS AND WHAT DATA
IS VERY CRITICAL TO HOW WE PLAN
OUR FUTURE. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S
PART OF THIS PROCESS THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO GET TO AND WE HAVE
SEEN AUDITS OF THE AIR BOARD AND
IT'S ITS ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO.
DEFEND MAYBE WHAT? THEY'VE BEEN
ASKING THE PUBLIC TO DO THAT.
THE AMOUNT OF REGULATION AT THE
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
HAS HAS UNILATERALLY WITHOUT
EVEN. LEGISLATION BEING ABLE TO
PUSH DOWN ONTO BUSINESSES AND
CALIFORNIANS IS SOMETHING BIGGER
THAN WE HAVE. A B 32 IS THE
LARGEST TAX INCREASE IN THE
WORLD'S HISTORY. BUT WHAT ARE WE
GETTING FOR IT? I THINK THAT'S
THE QUESTION THAT THE GOOD
SENATOR FROM BERKELEY WAS TRYING
TO GET TO IT BECAUSE THERE'S A
COST TO ACTUALLY GETTING THE
INFORMATION, BUT THAT COST WOULD
BE VERY CHEAP. OR INEXPENSIVE IF
WE GOT GOOD DATA, AND I THINK
THAT WHAT MOST OF CALIFORNIANS
ARE FRUSTRATED WITH IS THE FACT
THAT THE CALIFORNIA AIR
RESOURCES BOARD HAS BEEN A
FAILURE IN GIVING THAT
INFORMATION TO US AND WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT LIKE DOING GOOD
ANALYSIS, THINGS LIKE THE BULLET
TRAIN. AND HOW MUCH ARE WE
SPENDING AND HOW MUCH CARBON IS
IT? IS IT EXCUSING TO PRODUCE
THE STEEL AND THE AND THE
CONCRETE AND ARE WE REALLY
REDUCING OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT? I
THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT
NEEDS TO BE ASKED, AND WE HAVE
ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS. WE'VE
GOTTEN NOTHING FROM IT. BUT
ALONG WITH THE ABILITY TO BE
ABLE TO PICK OFF THE THINGS THAT
WE KNOW ARE THE LARGEST
POLLUTERS, WHICH IS FOREST FIRE.
WHICH CALIFORNIA RESOURCES BOARD
DOESN'T TAKE INTO THEIR
EQUATIONS. SO THE QUESTION I'M
ASKING YOU YEAH. HOW IS THIS
BILL GOING TO GET US TO THE
PLACE WHERE WE ACTUALLY GET GOOD
DATA? SO WE CAN ACTUALLY THEN
PUT HIT IT. WE CAN SHARE IT WITH
THE PUBLIC TO SAY THIS IS REALLY
HOW WE'RE DOING IN THE IN THE
FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE. I
REALLY APPRECIATE THE QUESTION
AND I THINK THE INTENT THAT YOU
HAVE BEHIND IT AND THAT IS THAT
WE ALL WANT GOOD DATA, AND I
WOULD OFFER TO YOU THAT. WE ALL
MAY HAVE DIFFERENT FRUSTRATIONS
WITH WHAT CARB HAS DONE SO FAR
AND PHILOSOPHICALLY, WE MAY HAVE
DIFFERENCES ABOUT WHAT WE WANT
CARBON DO BUT ONCE CARB HAS PUT
TOGETHER A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND
HAS A SIGNED VARIOUS TASKS OF
VARIOUS AGENCIES, WHETHER YOU
SUPPORT ALL THE PLAN OR WHETHER
YOU DON'T SUPPORT ALL THE PLANS
, YOU CAN'T GET THE GOOD DATA.
IF THE AGENCIES DON'T REPORT
ANYTHING. AND THAT'S WHERE WE
ARE RIGHT NOW. SO IF IN YOUR
INTEREST TO GET BETTER DATA I
DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD BE WORSE
OFF BY HAVING THE DEPARTMENT'S
ACTUALLY PRESENTING SOMETHING.
YOU MIGHT CHALLENGE IT. YOU
MIGHT THINK IT'S NOT ACCURATE,
BUT YOU WOULD AT LEAST HAVE IT
RIGHT NOW. YOU DON'T HAVE
ANYTHING TO EVALUATE. AND SO
PART OF YOUR FRUSTRATION IS WE
DON'T HAVE GOOD DATA. THIS WOULD
BE SAYING TO DEPARTMENTS HAVE
HAD YOU WERE ASSIGNED THIS
RESPONSIBILITY. HOW ARE YOU
DOING? LET'S AT LEAST BEGIN WITH
THAT WITHOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW
HOW YOU CAN GET TO YOUR GOAL
WITHOUT GETTING SOME ADDITIONAL
DATA FROM THAT. WE ALREADY HAVE
THE ABILITY THE CARBS UNDERNEATH
THE FIVE YEARS THEY'RE SUPPOSED
TO. GIVE US THE DATA EVERY FIVE
YEARS AND WE WE'VE SEEN THAT
WITH THE DATA THAT WE RECEIVED
BACK WHICH I'VE SCOURED THROUGH
WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BIG
I'M NOT CONVINCED WE ARE
CONVINCED THAT WE AREN'T DOING
THEIR JOB AND WHEN THEY DON'T DO
THEIR JOB, IT'S LIKE EVERY OTHER
AGENCY IN CALIFORNIA, WHEN THEY
FAIL. TO DO THEIR JOB. WE THE
DIRECTOR MOVES ON. WE'VE HAD
THREE DIRECTORS OF THE. HIGH
SPEED RAIL AUTHORITY BECAUSE
EVERY TIME THEY FAIL, THEY JUST
CHANGE, THE DIRECTOR SAID. WELL,
THAT WAS THE PROBLEM OF THE LAST
GUY AND WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT
NOW AND THEN. THREE YEARS LATER,
WE GET A NEW ONE, AND WE'VE HAD
THREE OF THOSE. SO THAT'S NINE
YEARS WORTH OF DIRECTORS, ALL
FAILURES. THE CALIFORNIA AIR
RESOURCE SUPPORT DOES NOT COUNT.
SO WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS HOW ARE
WE GOING TO ACTUALLY PUT IN THE
THINGS WE WANT TO THE AND
ANALYZE. ARE WE GOING TO ANALYZE
FOREST? ARE WE GOING TO ANALYZE
THE BULLET TRAIN? ARE WE GOING
TO ANALYZE EMISSIONS FROM
BUILDINGS? ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE
GOING TO ACTUALLY ANALYZE? THIS
IS AGENCIES. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS
GOING TO GO TO DEPARTMENT OF
RESOURCES. THIS IS GOING TO GO.
THE AGENCIES ARE GOING TO REPORT
BUT ARE THEY GOING TO CALCULATE
EVERYTHING IN THE ROOM. THAT'S
THAT'S THE POINT. AND IF THERE'S
NO MONEY TIED TO THIS, HOW ARE
WE GOING TO AFFORD TO DO IT?
WHAT YOU'VE YOU? WHEN THIS BILL
CAME OUT OF APPROPRIATIONS. WAS
THERE AN AMOUNT WITH IT? YES
THERE IS. THERE IS A BUDGET
REQUEST THAT IN THIS BILL DID
GET THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS WITH
THAT BUDGET REQUEST RIGHT? SO
THERE IS MONEY FOR THE FOR THE
DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO REPORT
I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE YOUR ONE
COMMENT. YOU SAID EVERY FIVE
YEARS WHEN CARB YOU EXPECT
CARBON GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, WILL
YOU BE BETTER OFF IN TERMS OF
EVALUATING THAT UPDATE IF YOU
HAVE ALSO AN ANNUAL UPDATE FROM
THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND
AGENCIES THAT YOU CAN USE TO
HELP YOU SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT
THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
HAS TOLD US FOR THE LAST FOUR
YEARS, AND NOW CARB COMES UP
WITH THEIR FIVE YEAR UPDATE. YOU
CAN YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO
COMPARE THAT AGAIN SAY THIS IS
WHAT TRANSPORTATION WAS SAYING
ALL ALONG. AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING
THIS AGAIN. I THINK YOU'RE
BETTER OFF IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING
RATHER THAN NOTHING WHEN YOU GO
FORWARD TO DO YOUR EVALUATION,
YOUR FRUSTRATION WAS HAVING CARB
. HAVING DO OTHER THINGS IS
CERTAINLY A LEGITIMATE
LEGISLATIVE ISSUE THAT CAN BE
TAKEN UP WITH SOME OTHER
LEGISLATION. BUT THIS
LEGISLATION DOING THIS DOESN'T
PROHIBIT ANY OTHER LEGISLATION
GOING FORWARD. IF YOU HAVE OTHER
AREAS OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT YOU
WANT FOR CARB, BUT I DON'T KNOW
HOW THIS WOULD GET YOU. I DON'T
KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS GETS
YOU FARTHER AWAY, BUT IT
ACTUALLY GETS YOU CLOSER TO AT
LEAST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
I'VE HEARD YOU BRING UP HERE AT
THIS POINT IN TIME, I WOULD I AM
INCLINED TO SUPPORT YOUR BILL,
BUT THE PART THAT I DON'T THAT
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT
WE'RE NOT ANALYZING EVERYTHING.
IT'S FOR EXAMPLE, THE
LEGISLATURE IS VERY GOOD AT
PICKING AND CHOOSING WHICH, UH,
SOURCES OF POLLUTION THEY WANT
TO REGULATE. THEY LOVE TO
REGULATE OIL AND GAS WELLS AND
COMBUSTIBLE ENGINES, BUT THEY
DON'T THEY DON'T LIKE TO
REGULATE OR EVEN STUDY THE FACT
THAT WE'RE SHIPPING OIL. IN THE
CALIFORNIA AND IT'S SITTING OUT
IN THE PORTS AND DESTROYING MY
FRIEND. HERE'S ERIC QUALITY AND
WE DON'T WANT WE DON'T COUNT
THAT WE HAD. WE DID A STUDY BILL
SHANNON GROVE BROUGHT A STEADY
BILL TOGETHER TO STUDY THAT, BUT
IT'S NOT. SO MY POINT IS WE
DON'T AND ONE OF MY BIGGEST BEEF
SAYS WE DON'T TALK ABOUT
FORESTRY. SO THOSE ARE GOING TO
BE INCLUDED IN THIS THIS. THIS
ISN'T GOING TO FORCE THEM TO
LOOK AT THOSE THINGS. IT'S GOING
TO JUST ANALYZE THE STUFF WE'VE
ALREADY SET OUT AS A LEGISLATURE
SET OUT. THAT'S THE FRUSTRATION
I HAVE. FOR EACH SENATOR, AND
EACH ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S VOTED ON
THIS. I'M SURE IT'S NOT A
PERFECT BILL. IT DOESN'T DO
EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT TO
QUESTION. THE FUNDAMENTAL
QUESTION IS, IS IT AN
IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. YEAH, UM. OKAY. THE
BILLS WERE MOVED BY SENATOR
SKINNER. UM RESPECTFULLY,
ASTRONAUT IVO. THANK YOU, OKAY.
SECRETARIES CHOLERA ITEM NUMBER
3 25 32 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT THE MOTION IS DUE PAST
BUT FIRST WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS ALAN
BATES, FUDING, DOLLY. GONZALEZ
GONZALEZ ICE SKINNER ER I STERN
WIECKOWSKI. TO YOU AGAIN. OKAY
ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S A CURRENTLY
A 3 TO 0 VOTE WITH TWO FOLKS NOT
VOTING VICE CHAIR HAS ASKED THAT
WE REOPEN THE ROLE ON ITEM TWO
BEFORE WE HEAR FROM ASYLUM
MEMBER REVIS. THIS IS A B 13 69.
OPEN THE WRONG ITEM NUMBER TWO
A. B 13 69 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
, BUT FIRST WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. THE
VOTE IS FOR ONE WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING, AYE. BATES NÓ. OKAY SO
THAT'S DON'T YEAH, KEEP GOING.-SHE WAS NOT VOTE. SO NOW SHE'S
SHE WAS SHE WAS ABSTAINING, SO
SHE'S GOING TO KNOW. YEAH KEEP
GOING TO THE WRONG BECAUSE, UM
BATES NO, NO. IT'S NO DOLLY. NO.
I'M SORRY. I WAS LOOKING AT THE
WRONG ONE. OKAY. I AM TO BE
VOTED FOR IT STARTED. STERN HERE
. OKAY SO WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THAT
ONE OPEN. THAT'S THAT IS NOW 4
TO 2 VOTE ITEM THREE IS A 3 TO 0
VOTE WITH TWO FOLKS NOT VOTING.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT LATER.
WHEN. OUR COLLEAGUE GETS HERE.
OKAY SO LET'S UM LET'S NOW GO TO
ITEM EIGHT. THAT'S ROBERT RIVAS
A B 21. OH, EIGHT. LET'S HEAR
FROM YOU WHEN YOU'RE READY.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MR CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. IT'S
GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY. LIKEWISE
AND BEFORE I BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO
KNOW THAT I'LL BE ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS. THANK
YOU, AND I LIKE TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR WORK
ON THIS BILL AND THOSE
AMENDMENTS. IN THIS LEGISLATION,
ASSEMBLY BILL 21086 TO ELEVATE
THE VOICES OF SOME COMMUNITIES
HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN EXCLUDED
FROM WATER POLICY. THIS BILL
DOES THIS IN TWO KEY WAYS.
FIRST, IT DESIGNATES ONE SEAT ON
THE STATE AND REGIONAL WATER
BOARDS TO BE FILLED BY
ENVIRONMENTAL, JUSTICE OR TRIBAL
COMMUNITY MEMBER. CONSECUTIVE
REQUIRES COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND
INCORPORATES ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE CONSIDERATIONS INTO THE
APPROVAL PROCESS FOR MAJOR WATER
PERMITS. THIS OCTOBER MARKS 50
YEARS SINCE THE PASSAGE OF THE
FEDERAL CLEAN WATER ACT. AND
UNFORTUNATELY MANY LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, THEY STILL
LACK ACCESS TO CLEAN WATER. AND
AS WE KNOW, MANY OF THESE
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES ARE HOME
TO LOW INCOME WORKERS, WORKERS
WHO LACK THE RESOURCES THEY LACK
THE TIME AND THE ACCESS TO
ADVOCATE FOR OR AGAINST SUCH
POLICIES. HAVE MAJOR
IMPLICATIONS FOR THEIR HEALTH
SAFETY AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE
WITH ME HERE TO TESTIFY. AURIOL
SAUDI BAR ON BEHALF OF THE
COMMUNITY WATER CENTER, AND SEAN
BOTHWELL FROM THE CALIFORNIA
COAST KEEPER ALLIANCE, WHO IS
ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS WITH THAT.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU
MAY PROCEED. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS REAL
SALDIVAR WITH WATER CENTER AND
WE ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF A B
21 08 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RIVAS
. THIS BILL REPRESENTS A
CRITICAL TOOL FOR DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE,
MANY OF WHICH WE HAVE WORKED
ALONGSIDE WITH THREE YEARS
SUGGESTS DEEPWATER INEQUITIES.
SPECIFICALLY BA 21 08 WILL
ENSURE THAT DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES HAVE A SEAT AT THE
TABLE DRINK CRITICAL WATER
POLICY DECISIONS AT THE STATE
WATER BOARD AND ALSO REQUIRE
THAT THEY PROVIDE PROGRAMMATIC
FINDINGS ON POTENTIAL
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IMPACTS.
THE PROVISIONS OF THE BILL
FURTHER THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF
WATER AS, UM, REMEMBER RUFUS WAS
INDICATING OVER A MILLION
CALIFORNIANS DO NOT HAVE ACCESS
TO SAFE. UM DRINK DRINKING WATER
WHEN THEY OPEN THEIR TOP, AND WE
CANNOT LET THIS PERSIST. WE
CANNOT LEAVE ENTIRE COMMUNITIES
BEHIND WHEN WE ARE ADDRESSING
ISSUES RELATING TO WATER QUALITY
SUPPLY OR AFFORDABILITY ISSUES,
ALL OF WHICH DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMPACT LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR. THE STATE WATER BORDER
WAS CREATED IN 1967. YET TO THE
BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, GOVERNOR
NEWSOM WAS THE FIRST GOVERNOR TO
APPOINT A STATE WATER BOARD
MEMBER THAT WAS REPRESENTATIVE
OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES. THAT MEMBER WAS
LAUREL LAUREL FIRE SUN, THE
COMMUNITY WATER CENTER'S
FOUNDER. HE WAS APPOINTED IN
2019. WHICH MEANS THAT AFTER 52
YEARS, DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES
FINALLY HAD A DECISION MADE
GREAT TO SEE WATER BOARD WITH A
PROVEN HISTORY OF ADVOCATING FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. MAYBE 21
08 WILL ENSURE THAT THIS TYPE OF
REPRESENTATION CONTINUES IN THE
FUTURE. GOVERNORS WILL ALSO
PROVIDE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES
WITH HIS REPRESENTATION AT THE
STATE AND REGIONAL WATERBOARD.
BECAUSE THOSE DECISIONS IMPACT
HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES, THE MOST IT IS ALSO
IMPORTANT TO NOTE BY MAYBE 21,
OR EIGHT DOES NOT REPLACE ANY OF
THE EXISTING STATE WATER BOARD
SEATS. MOREOVER, THE BILL'S
LANGUAGE IS IDENTICAL TO
EXISTING STATUTORY LANGUAGE THAT
PROVIDES THAT ONE STATE WATER
BOARD MEMBER MUST ALSO BE A
QUALIFIED REPRESENTATIVES FROM
AGRICULTURAL INTERESTS.
AGRICULTURAL INTERESTS GET
GUARANTEED REPRESENTATION AT THE
STATE WATER BOARD DECISIONS. WHY
CAN'T COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN
MOST SEVERELY IMPACTED BY WATER
POLLUTION? HAVE THAT SAME
REPRESENTATION FOR THESE
REASONS, WE URGENTLY YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. YAKKING MORNING
SHARING COMMITTEE MEMBERS NAMES
SEAN BARTHWELL. I AM THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR
CALIFORNIA COAST KEEPER LANCE
WERE ALSO THE SPONSOR OF THE
BILL. SO I'M HERE REALLY? TO
ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE JUST WANTED TO
COVER A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE
HEARD QUESTIONS. POTENTIAL
CONCERNS ON THE REPRESENTATION
PART FOR THE STATE WATER BOARD.
JUST TO BE CLEAR. THERE'S FIVE
SEATS ON THE ON THE STATE WATER
BOARD. ONE ATTORNEY TO
ENGINEERS. AND THEN ONE WATER
QUALITY PERSON AND PUBLIC SEAT
AND THEN OF THOSE 51
AGRICULTURAL PERSON NEEDS TO FIT
ONE OF THOSE SPECIALTIES BUT
ALSO REPRESENT AG AND WE'RE
TAKING THAT EXACT LANGUAGE. HOW
THAT AGRICULTURAL GETS AND
SAYING THAT OF ALL THOSE FIVE
SPECIALTIES, ONE OF THEM WILL
ALSO REPRESENT ENVIRONMENTAL,
JUSTICE AND TRIBAL COMMUNITIES.
AS YOU MENTIONED, WE JUST GOT
APPOINTED. THE VERY FIRST
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE STATE
WATER BOARD, AND VERY RECENTLY
IN THE NORTH COAST. WE GOT THE
FIRST PERSON THAT I WOULD ARGUE
REPRESENTS TRIBAL COMMUNITIES.
UM WE ALSO WORK VERY CLOSELY
WITH THE STATE WATER BOARD ON
THE SECTION ON ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE ANALYSIS, AND THE IDEA
BEHIND THAT SECTION IS REALLY
NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE ANY
MITIGATION PER SE. BUT TO REALLY
PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY TO THE
DECISION MAKERS ON WHAT THE
PERMANENT OR POLICY DOES OR DOES
NOT DO WHEN WE TALKED TO STAFF A
LOT. THERE'S A LOT OF TRADE OFFS
THAT ARE MADE BETWEEN STAFF AND
THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THE PERMIT
EASE, AND THIS SECTION IS ONLY
REQUIRING THAT THOSE TRADE OFFS
BE COMMUNICATED TO THE DECISION
MAKERS AND THE POTENTIAL
MEASURES TO REDUCE THE IMPACTS
TO DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES IS
PRESENTED. THERE ISN'T ANY
REQUIRED MITIGATION. WE'VE
WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH A LOT
OF OPPOSITION TO CLARIFIED
POINTS. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON
THAT. BUT WE THINK WE'RE VERY
CLOSE TO GETTING THERE TO
CLARIFY ALL PARTS OF THE BILL SO
THAT I ASKED FOR I VOTE AND
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, LET'S
GO. TO ANYONE ELSE IN THE PERSON
WANTS TO VOICE THEIR SUPPORT ON
THE PHONE LINES, A B 21 08. AND
WHO WANTS TO VOICE OUR SUPPORT
FOR THE VILLA MODERATOR. ANYONE
WANT TO VOICE THEIR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. IF YOU ARE
IN SUPPORT OF MAYBE 21 OH EIGHT
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. ZERO. AND
OUR 1ST 11 MOMENT HERE WITH AN
OPERATOR. ANYBODY ELSE? PLEASE
GO AHEAD. 14.0 EXPRESSIVE FOR A
B 21, 08 AND 61 AHEAD.
CALIFORNIA, ENVIRONMENTAL MOTORS
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. YEAH. AND
COMMENTS, PLEASE. NEXT. WE'VE
GOT A LINE 32, YOU ARE OPEN.
HELLO MY NAME IS KAREN WALLY ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA. SUPPORT OF
BABIES. 21 8. THANK YOU. CAN'T
FIND 37. PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE
LANGUAGE. SEVEN. MY NAME IS
CALLING ON BEHALF OF CLEAN WATER
ACTION WE SHOULD FOR JUSTICE AND
ACCOUNTABILITY MONOLITH
COMMITTEE AND SURFRIDER IN
SUPPORT OF 41. L A. THANK YOU.
HAND LINE. 60, YOU ARE OPEN.
0.60 PLEASE A MUTE. I'M SORRY.
MATTHEW BAKER SPENDING
CONSERVATION CONFRONT MR CHAIR.
THERE ARE NO OTHER PURCHASES.
LET'S GO. LET'S GO TO OPPOSITION
. I KNOW WE'VE GOT BRENDA
BASTARD FROM THE COUCH CHAMBER.
TO AVOID TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS
ABOUT THE BILL. DON'T YOU COME
UP? GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M
BRENDA BASS WITH CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND WE ARE
CURRENTLY OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED
TO A B 21. OH, EIGHT, BUT I
WANTED TO FIRST EXPRESS OUR
APPRECIATION TO THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER FOR HIS CONTINUED
WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US TO
FIND SOLUTIONS TO OUR CONCERNS.
THE COMMITTEE SUGGESTED
AMENDMENTS GO A LONG WAY TOWARD
RESOLVING REMAINING CONCERNS,
PARTICULARLY THOSE RELATED TO
THE MEANING OF CERTAIN TERMS AND
OTHER CLARIFYING REVISIONS. WE
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR
COUNTERPARTS ATIONS WITH AUTHOR
TO TRY TO RESOLVE A FEW
STRAGGLING TECHNICAL ISSUES,
INCLUDING A QUESTION ABOUT
WHETHER FEE PAYERS WILL
INADVERTENTLY BE LEFT ON THE
HOOK FOR CERTAIN COSTS OF NEW
STAFF POSITIONS CREATED BY THIS
BILL. IF AN APPROPRIATION ISN'T
MADE BY THE LEGISLATURE IN
FUTURE YEARS, SO, UM, WITH THAT
AGAIN, WE CONTINUE. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR
CONVERSATIONS AND HOPEFULLY WE
WILL BE ABLE TO RESOLVE ALL OUR
REMAINING CONCERNS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. I'M JESSICA GAGA
WITH THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
OF SANITATION AGENCIES.
APOLOGIES FOR NOT GETTING A
LETTER IN IN TIME. I JUST WANTED
TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF CONCERNS
THAT WE HAVE IN THE BILL IN
SECTION FOUR RELATIVE RELATIVE
RELATED TO SOME OF THE
INDIVIDUAL PERMITTING
REQUIREMENTS. WE DO THINK THAT
WE CAN SEE THOSE ISSUES RESOLVED
WITH SOME TECHNICAL AND
CLARIFYING AMENDMENTS IN THE
NEXT COMMITTEE AND LOOK FORWARD
TO HAVING THOSE CONTINUED
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE AUTHOR AND
SPONSOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WELL, THAT'S PROMISING AND
APPRECIATE. APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMENTS AND YOUR WORK ON THE
BILL OF OTHER FOLKS WHO WANT TO
RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT THE BILL ON
THE PHONE LINES. MODERATOR.
THANK YOU, MR IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION THE 80 21
OH 81509 59, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING, REBECCA BASTIONS
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA. FRESH
CRITICISM STATION, CALIFORNIA
MUTUAL, CALIFORNIA WRITES
MISSIONS AND OTHER AGGREGATE
CONDITIONS MUST MEND IT. THANK
YOU. I'LL GIVE YOU ONE MORE.
REMINDER ONE CALLED ZERO FOR
OPPOSITION TO MAYBE 21. OH,
EIGHT. AND NOBODY ELSE IS DOING
UP CARE. ALRIGHT LET'S BRING THE
BILL BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS. THAT'S COMMENTS
CONCERNS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM
MEMBERS. BILL HAS BEEN MOVED.
WHY DON'T WE LET YOU CLOSE FAST
WHEN I VOTE? OKAY. THANK YOU.
MOVED BY SENATOR GONZALEZ.
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
AS AMENDED. YES YOU'RE YOU'RE
ACCEPTING ALL THE MEN, SIR.
THAT'S RIGHT. SECRETARY, PLEASE
CHOLERA. ITEM NUMBER 8 21. OH,
EIGHT BY SOME REMEMBER ROBERT
RIVAS. MOTION IS DUE PAST AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMENDMENT WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
NATURAL RESOURCES AND WATER.
ALLEN HIæN. AYE, BATES. LOOKING
VOLLEY. GONZALEZ. GONZALEZ. I
SKINNER. BY SKINNER. I STERN
WIECKOWSKI. OKAY, THAT'S 4 TO 0
WILL LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN. FOR
OUR COLLEAGUES THAT THANK YOU.
OKAY THANK YOU. SO REMEMBER, NOW
LET'S LET'S CALL UP SENATOR MARK
GRAY, WHO IS HERE TO PRESENT ON
BEHALF OF THE SALEM ERA.
PETRIE-NORRIS, WHO IS PRESENTING
CHEERING HER OWN COMMITTEE. SO
THIS ITEM 11 MEMBERS AND I'M 11
A B 29 44. YOU MAY PURSUE ONE
READY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS APPRECIATE THE
COURTESY OF LAND MANY PRESENT,
OF COURSE. MY COLLEAGUE AS SHE'S
AS A CHAIR, STATED STOCK,
CHAIRING COMMITTEE AND
CONTENTIOUS BILL AT THE MOMENT,
MR CHAIRMAN. I AM HERE TO
PRESENT 29 44. THIS BILL
REQUIRES THEIR RESOURCES BOARD
TO INCLUDE AN EVALUATION OF HOW
CARBON CAPTURE UTILIZATION AND
SEQUESTRATION TECHNOLOGIES ARE
CONTRIBUTING TO THE STATE'S
EFFORTS TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS IN ITS ANNUAL REPORT
TO THE LEGISLATURE. I'D LIKE TO
BEGIN BY THANKING YOUR STAFF FOR
THEIR HARD WORK AND ACCEPTING ON
BEHALF OF THE AUTHOR OF THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS, AS
SUGGESTED CLIMATE CHANGE IS
ALREADY HAVING A STAGGERING
IMPACTS ON COMMUNITIES ACROSS
THE STATE, INCLUDING DROUGHTS,
WILDFIRES, HEATWAVES AND
CATASTROPHIC WEATHER EVENTS.
THESE IMPACTS ARE ONLY EXPECTED
TO INTENSIFY, POSING A
SIGNIFICANT THREAT TO PUBLIC
HEALTH AND THE STATE'S ECONOMY.
IF CALIFORNIA HOPES TO COMBAT
CLIMATE CHANGE, STATE LEADERS
WILL NEED TO DEPLOY THE FULL
RANGE OF TECHNOLOGIES AVAILABLE
TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS. THIS INCLUDES CARBON
CAPTURE. WHICH LEADING EXPERTS
HAVE IDENTIFIED AS A CRITICAL
COMPONENT OF ANY SUCCESSFUL
STRATEGY TO MEET OUR CLIMATE
GOALS. THIS BILL WILL PROVIDE
VALUABLE INFORMATION TO INFORM
FUTURE DECISIONS ABOUT HOW
CARBON CAPTURE TECHNOLOGIES CAN
BE DEPLOYED AS PART OF OUR
OVERALL STRATEGY TO COMBAT
CLIMATE CHANGE, AND I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
ON THIS MATTER. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. OKAY LET'S NOW I KNOW IS
ANYONE HERE WANTS TO VOICE
SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. ANYONE ON
THE PHONE LINES 29 44. THANK YOU
WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT OF 80 29
44, PLEASE PRESS ONE, PROBABLY
ZERO. NOBODY'S QUEUING UP, MR
CHAIR.
NOBODY ON THE PHONE LINES. AND I
DO WANT TO CARE. YEAH, I WANT TO
CLARIFY THE MY UNDERSTANDING.
AUTHOR IS ACCEPTED ALL THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. MR
CHAIRMAN, YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS
CORRECT. OKAY, ALRIGHT. SO WE
ARE OKAY. WE ARE. WE ARE
PROCEEDING WITH THAT
UNDERSTANDING. UM OPPOSITION.
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO WEIGH RAISED
CONCERNS ABOUT THE DOLL. ON THE
PHONE LINES MEMBER MODERATOR. IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRESS UP TO
29. AND NOBODY IS GOING OUT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE WE HAD A
LETTER BACK AND FORTH, BUT THE
AUTHOR HAS ACCEPTED THE IMMENSE
WHICH HAVE TO DO WITH ENSURING
THAT THERE IS THERE'S REAL DATA
AND THAT WERE THERE, AND I WAS
HAVING A WHOLE DIALOGUE WITH
CENTER WIECKOWSKI EARLIER TODAY
ABOUT ENSURING THAT YOU CAN'T
JUST BLEND THE DATA, EITHER.
THERE HAS TO BE SITE SPECIFIC.
INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN
GATHERED. TÌM. BECAUSE THAT THAT
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW IT
CONTINUES TO BE OF CONCERN ON
THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE. WITH
THAT UNDERSTANDING. I'M
CERTAINLY COMFORTABLE WITH
SUPPORTING THE BILL, AND I THINK
IT ADDRESSES THE CORE CONCERNS
THAT WERE RAISED IN OPPOSITION,
BUT I APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR
TAKING THEM VERY IMPORTANT
AMENDMENT. ANYHOW QUESTIONS
THOUGHTS, COMMENTS FROM THE
MEMBERS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY
HAVE FORMALLY DROPPED OPPOSITION
, BUT. WELL, I THINK THEY HAVE A
BROAD. OKAY SO I THINK THEY HAVE
JUST A PHILOSOPHICAL. I THINK
THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION HAS
A PHILOSOPHICAL OR OPPOSITION TO
ALL THINGS. CARBON CAPTURE,
WHICH WE ALL KNOW AND HAVE BEEN
DISCUSSING. CONSIDERABLY. ON. WE
DID? YEAH, NO. ONE. NO ONE
CALLED IN. BUT SENATOR KENNEDY,
BUT DID THEY NOT CALLING BECAUSE
THEY BELIEVED THAT ITEM HAD BEEN
TOLD I THOUGHT IT WAS CLOSED. AH
UM I DON'T KNOW. I LISTEN. I CAN
ONLY ASSUME THAT GIVEN MY
UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR CONCERNS
ABOUT THE BILL THERE. I THINK WE
HAVE TO OPERATE FROM THE
ASSUMPTION THAT THEY STILL HAVE
THOSE SAME CONCERNS. UM BUT
THERE ARE BROADER PHILOSOPHICAL
CONCERNS. TO THE EXTENT THAT
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT. YOU
KNOW, COULD BE SEEN AS. TREATING
CARBON CAPTURE FAVORABLY. NOW, I
WOULD ARGUE THAT WHAT WE'RE
DOING HERE IS. THIS IS A DATA
BILL ULTIMATELY, AND THE
AMENDMENTS HAVE ENSURED. THAT
WE'RE REALLY NOT ALLOWING CARBON
CAPTURE TO GET AWAY WITH. THERE
WERE REALLY FORCING. DATA
COLLECTION THAT IS SITE SPECIFIC
AND THAT WILL REALLY LOOK AT
THESE ISSUES OF THE CAPTURE
RIGHT IN THE FACILITIES,
EMISSIONS AND REDUCTIONS AND
WHICH ARE I THINK, AT THE HEART
OF THE EGYPT CONCERNS CENTER OUT
THERE WITH REGARDS TO CCS. BUT
WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS AN
INCREDIBLY POLITICALLY SENSITIVE
DISCUSSION TOPIC CENTER. SKINNER
KNOWS THAT BETTER THAN ANYONE.
AND BUT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IF
MEMBERS HAVE IF THERE ARE SOME
FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS WITH THE
BILL OR THINGS YOU LIKE TO SEE
CHANGE. I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY
HAVE. WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT
MORE TIME AND FOR JUST WANT TO
CLARIFY FOR ME, IT WASN'T SO
MUCH A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IN
THE BILL. I JUST WONDERED IF
THERE WAS CONFUSION. AND WHETHER
IT WAS RIGHT TO. AMONG MY STAFF
HAD IT LISTED AS PULLED AND
SENATOR STERN STAFF NOW I DON'T
KNOW AT WHAT POINT INFORMATION
WAS OUT, AND WHETHER IF IT WAS
ON THE DAILY FILE AS BEING A
BILL THAT WAS GOING TO BE HEARD,
THEN OBVIOUSLY. ANY WAS
ABSOLUTELY ON THE FILE. WEIRD
WAS ABSENT OR WAS IT WAS ON THE
PHONE? ABSOLUTELY ON THE FILE.
SO IF IT WAS ON THE FILE, THEN
OKAY. ALL THAT HAPPENED WAS THE
AUTHOR, QUITE FRANKLY, DIDN'T
WANT TO TAKE THE AMENDMENTS. AND
SO WE SAID, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO
YOU KNOW, WE'RE INSISTING ON THE
AMENDMENTS. AH AND SO WE WERE
THREATENING TO PULL THAT WAS ON
THAT ISSUE, AND THEN SHE
ACCEPTED THEM. SO IT'S FINE. IT
WAS PUBLICLY NOTICED. AND IF THE
OPPOSITION WANTED TO SHOW THEY
COULD SHOW, SO I'M FINE. KENNETH
EXPLAIN THAT PEOPLE. YEAH SO, SO
THE ISSUE IS. IT HAS TO DO WITH
CAPTURE RATE CAPTURE EFFICIENCY.
SO WE WANTED TO MODIFY THE
REQUIREMENT TO SPECIFY REPORTING
THE CAPTURE RATE AT THE POINT OF
CAPTURE. YOU KNOW THE CAPTURE
EFFICIENCY WHEN ACCOUNTING FOR
ALL EMISSIONS THAT HAVE GIVEN
FACILITY ON THE CAPTURE
EFFICIENCY WHEN ACCOUNTING FOR
AN ESTIMATION OF THE UPSTREAM
SOURCES OF EMISSIONS. AND IN ALL
EMISSIONS AT A FACILITY. AND I
THINK WE WERE. WE WERE REALLY
THAT WAS THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO
US BECAUSE AND THE WAY THAT
CAPTURE EFFICIENCY NUMBERS ARE
CALCULATED AND CAN REALLY CHANGE
THE APPEARANCE OF HOW SUCCESSFUL
GIVEN PROJECT AND I THINK ONE OF
THE MANY DISCUSSION POINTS RIGHT
NOW IS WHETHER CARBON CAPTURE IS
PROMISING MORE THAN IT'S
DELIVERING WITH REGARDS TO
EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS. AND SO
THIS WAS THIS WAS AN AMENDMENT
THAT SOUGHT TO GET THAT ISSUE.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT CONCERNED
US THAT THE AUTHOR WAS RETICENT
TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS, AND I
THINK THAT'S PART OF HOW WE GOT
TO THIS POINT. I THINK IT SPEAKS
TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY CONTINUE
TO HAVE ON THIS IN THIS BROADER
ISSUE, BUT ONCE SHE ACCEPTED
THEM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WE'VE
GOT. WE'VE GOT A WHOLE GROUP OF
FOLKS SAYING THIS IS THE ANSWER.
YOU KNOW, TO ALL OF OUR
PROBLEMS, AND THEN WE GOT A
BUNCH OF FOLKS ARE VERY
SKEPTICAL. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
THIS AMENDMENT CAUSE THE
QUESTION IN SOME RESPECTS, RIGHT
? AND IT SAYS HEY, OKAY, YOU
GOTTA COLLECT THIS DATA. WE
GOTTA WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO
BLEND DATA FROM VARIOUS SITES
COVER FOR ONE SITE THAT MAYBE
NOT PERFORMING. HOME. SO I'M
COMFORTABLE WITH IT WHERE IT IS,
AND YOU KNOW, AND BUT THERE IS
NO QUESTION THAT CARBON CAPTURE
AS A TECHNOLOGY CONTINUES TO
RACISM CONCERNS FROM FOLKS. I
DON'T THINK THAT THIS BILL WHERE
IT IS NOW HAS ANY KIND OF
CONFLICT WITH THEIR FUNDAMENTAL
CONCERNS, SO I'M HAPPY TO
SUPPORT IT. BUT I UNDERSTAND HOW
SENSITIVE THIS ISSUE CONTINUES
TO BE FOR FOLKS. AND YOU KNOW,
WE DON'T HAVE. I MEAN, THIS IS
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY
SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT HAVE
COME OUT. IN OPPOSITION TO
CERTAINLY SENATOR CAVIAR AS BILL
ARE NOT PROPOSING THIS. THIS IS
, OF COURSE, A MUCH MUCH, MUCH
NARROWER BILL. BUT SENATOR SALAS
JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO
THE COMMITTEE AND FOR YOU, MR
CHAIR FOR ADDING THESE BECAUSE I
DON'T THINK I'M OF THE SAME
THOUGHT I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS WITHOUT
THOSE AMENDMENTS. SO I JUST WANT
TO SAY THANK YOU FOR FINALLY
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS ON THE
AUTHOR'S BEHALF AND FOR MOVING.
LET ME CLEAR THIS COMMITTEE WAS
WAS. WE WERE PRETTY ADAMANT THAT
WE WERE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY ARE
MY SUPPORT WAS PREDICATED ON
ACCEPTANCE OF AMENDMENTS. MR
CHAIR? YES, YES, AND ASSURING.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION, SO JUST
TO GET FINAL CLARITY THE
AMENDMENTS ON THE RATE THE
CENTRAL VALLEY AIR QUALITY
COALITIONS, CONCERN WAS ABOUT
THE MUST UTILIZE. LANGUAGE THAT
IN THE GOALS OF MAYBE 29 44, SO
IT'S SORT OF AN OBLIGATION TO
UTILIZE. CARBON CAPTURE AND
STORAGE. I ONLY SEE RIGHT NOW. A
SHALL INCLUDING EVALUATION. AND
IDENTIFY DETAILS OF EACH PROJECT
, BUT NOT A SORT OF MANDATE TO
UTILIZE THIS. IN OTHER WORDS,
THE AIR BOARD WILL RETAIN
DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT
ABSOLUTELY AND WHERE TO I AM
SEEING NODDING FROM STAFF WHO
WAS AN ACCURATE UNDERSTANDING SO
THAT YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE TO
ME IN TERMS OF THIS BEING A DATA
DRIVEN AND EVALUATION BILL AND
NOT NECESSARILY SOME OF THE
OTHER VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING TO
DEFINE SCOPE PROJECT THOSE KIND
OF MATTERS. SO WITH THAT
UNDERSTANDING, I AM ALSO
UNCOMFORTABLE MOVING THE BILL.
YEAH WHERE DO THEY CAN? I JUST
ASK WHAT THE MUST UTILIZE. THAT
WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADDRESSED
EARLIER IN IN AN EARLIER
ITERATION OF THE BILL, I THINK,
YEAH. OKAY I THINK THEY'RE
SENATOR STERN. THANK YOU FOR
RAISING THAT. I THINK THEY WERE
OPERATING OFF OF A YOU KNOW?
YES, EXACTLY AN OLDER VERSION.
LET ME JUST SAY OBVIOUSLY IT IS
UNFORTUNATE THAT THEY'RE NOT
HERE TO PARTICIPATE. AND WE WILL
MAKE A POINT OF REACHING OUT TO
THEM. I'M NOT GUARANTEEING THAT
WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM OFF OF
OUR POSITION. BUT I DO WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT TO THE EXTENT WE
CAN WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THIS
WHOLE DISCUSSION, WE CAN GET
THEIR CONCERNS AND FEARS
ALLAYED. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THIS
MUST UTILIZE LANGUAGE THAT THEY
RAISED IN THE OPPOSITION LETTER
IS DOESN'T ISN'T RELEVANT TO THE
CURRENT VERSION OF THE BILL.
YEAH BUT IF WE'RE MISSING THAT
WE WILL GET THAT ADDRESSED. THE
MOTION. THANK YOU, SENATOR. MR
CHAIRMAN. YOU LIKE ME TO CLOSE.
SURE YEAH, YOU KNOW, AND I'M
LOOKING AT THEIR COMMENTS ABOUT,
YOU KNOW. PUBLIC HEALTH AND. I
DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE
NECESSARILY NEED TO LOAD THIS
PARTICULAR BILL WITH A LOT OF
INTENT LANGUAGE IN THAT SPACE,
BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO IT WITH
OTHER BILLS THAT ARE MAKING
THEIR WAY THROUGH AND ANYWAY, WE
WILL. WE WILL. WE WILL CERTAINLY
REACH OUT TO THEM AND WE WILL BE
IN TOUCH WITH YOUR OFFICES ABOUT
THE WAY THIS ABOUT HOW THAT
DISCUSSION PROCEEDS. AND TO
ENSURE THAT TO THE EXTENT
FEASIBLE, WE CAN GET THEIR
ISSUES ADDRESSED IN ALLAYED. AND
WITH THAT I WOULD LOVE TO LOVE
TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY
CLOSING. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
THANK YOU FOR THE ROBUST
DISCUSSION, EVEN EVEN WITHOUT
WITNESSES OPPOSED AND IN SUPPORT
. WE HAVE HAD A THOROUGH
DISCUSSION OF THE ISSUE. I HAVE
WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE AUTHOR
OF THIS BILL. AH IN A COALITION
OF BIPARTISAN LEGISLATORS
LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS TO THE
CLIMATE CHANGE SPACE. THIS IS, I
THINK SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THAT
GROUP AND IMPORTANT PART OF THAT
WORK AND I HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE
IN MY OWN RIGHT, REPRESENTING
THE CENTRAL VALLEY HERE IN
CALIFORNIA, AND THIS ISSUE OF
MAKING SURE WE HAVE CLEAR DATA,
AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENTS ON THE AUTHOR. I KNOW
BUT SHE DID, IN FACT, HAVE SOME
CONCERNS BUT IMPORTANT. WE HAVE
GOOD DATA. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
ISSUES I FOUGHT OVER THE YEARS
HERE IS G R F SPENDING, AND
WE'VE SEEN THAT WHILE MORE
EFFICIENT. PER METRIC TON
SPENDING HAS OCCURRED IN MY
REGION OF THE STATE L A. AND SAN
FRANCISCO STILL GET MORE THAN
THEIR SHARE OF THE MONEY, RIGHT
, SO HAVING IMPORTANT DATA AND
CLEAR ANALYSIS SO THAT WE CAN
SPEND MONEY AND TAKE OUR EFFORTS
IN THE MOST EFFICIENT AND BEST
PRACTICE BEST PRACTICES IS
CERTAINLY SOMETHING I THINK WE
SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO AGREE ON.
THE AUTHOR WOULD SAY THAT IF SHE
WERE HERE, SO THANK YOU FOR
DISCUSSION. THANKS FOR THE
AMENDMENTS. APPRECIATE YOU
MOVING THIS BILL FORWARD SO THAT
WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS VERY
CRITICAL ISSUE, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS
CONTINUES TO BE AN AREA OF GREAT
SENSITIVITY FOR A LOT OF
IMPORTANT REASONS. SO THANK YOU,
SAM. REMEMBER? MOVED BY SENATOR
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
ITEM NUMBER 11 A B 29 44 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PICTURE NORRIS
MOTIONS DO PASS AS AMENDED, BUT
FIRST AMENDING, WE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY ALAN
BATES DELI. GONZALEZ GONZALEZ, I
SKINNER SKINNER. I STERN STERN.
AYE. WIECKOWSKI. OKAY GREAT.
THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GONNA LET
LET'S LET'S LIFT CALLS. LET'S
GET CENTER WITH CASKEY DOLLY
DOWN HERE TO THE EXTENT THEY
CAN. AND THEN WE'RE READY TO.
WE'RE GOOD TO GO. SO LET'S LET'S
UM LET'S START WITH ITEM TWO.
THIS IS A B 13 69. BILLIONAIRE
BENNETT'S BILL. ITEM NUMBER TWO
A B 13 69 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT. THE MOTION IS DUE PAST
BUT FIRST WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS VOTE
IS FOR TWO WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING. I'VE VOICED HER VOTING
NO STERN. HI, STERN. AYE. OKAY
52, SO WE'LL CLOSE THE ROLE ON
THAT ONE THAT BILL THE MOTION
PASSES. LET'S GO TO ITEM THREE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE A B 25 32 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS BUT FIRST RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS 30
WITH THE CHAIR VOTING, AYE. VICE
OR NOT VOTING. STERN I
WIECKOWSKI. OKAY THAT'S 4 TO 0.
UM WELL, HOLD THAT OPEN. GIVE
HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME ON
DOWN. LET'S DO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR TO LET SENATOR TURNOUT
ON. AND SENT CALENDAR HAS ITEMS
NUMBER SEVEN AND EIGHT. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO BE ORDERED
TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ESTERN?
AYE. 70 OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE
ROLE ON THE CONSENT COUNTER THE
STILL CAMERA PASSES. LET'S NOW
GO TO ITEM SIX. THIS IS
SOMETHING RICK WORKS, BILL.
MAYBE 17 93. SIX NUMBER SIX A B
17 93. BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S QUIRK
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMENDING WE
REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS THE VOTERS 40 THE
CHAIR, VOTING I VICE TRAVELING
I. GONZALES. GONZALEZ I SKINNER
SKINNER. I STERN STERN. I OKAY.
WE'LL CLOSE THE ROLE ON A B 17
93 THAT PASSES. THAT'S A
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE COMMITTEE
70. LET'S NOW GO TO ROBERT RIVAS
IS 21 88. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT A B
21 8 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
ROBERT RIVAS. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSES AMENDED BUT FIRST AMEND
AND RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON NATURAL RESOURCES AND WATER.
THE VOTERS FOR ZERO CHAIR VOTING
I VICE TURNOUT VOTING, DOLLY!
WIECKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI I OKAY? WE
WILL. CLOSE THE ROLL ON. THAT
BILL THAT BILL PASSES? YEAH.
WITH 50 HE NEEDS TO VOTER. HE
DID. ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET'S GO.
OKAY ALRIGHT, LET'S GO. LET'S GO
TO ARAMBULA. THIS IS, UM ITEM 9
80 25 50. OKAY ITEM NUMBER NINE
A. B 25 50 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
ARAMBULA. THE MOTION IS DUE PAST
AS AMENDED, BUT FIRST AMENDING
WE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTE IS FOR
TO THE CHAIR, BOOTING I VICE
CHAIR VOTING NO STERN. STERN.
AYE. OKAY WE'LL CLOSE THE ROLE.
IT'S 5 TO 2 ON THE ARAMBULA BILL
THAT PASSES LET'S GO TO THE
PETRIE-NORRIS BILL ITEM 11 A B
29 44 ITEM NUMBER 11 A B 29 44
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PETRIE-NORRIS. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSES AMENDED BUT FIRST AMEND
IN RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON JUDICIARY. THE VOTERS 50 WITH
THE CHAIR VOTING I AND THE VICE
CHAIR VOTING I DALI DALI. AYE.
MAJKOWSKI WIECKOWSKI, AYE. OKAY
THAT'S A 70 VOTE. WE WILL CLOSE
THE ROLE ON THAT THAT PASSES.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO BACK UP TO
THE TOP OF THE AGENDA. LET'S GO
TO A B 25 32. THAT'S
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT'S BILL.
ITEM NUMBER THREE. ITEM NUMBER
THREE A. B 25 32
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BENNETT. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS, BUT FIRST WE
REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE VOTERS 40
WITH THE CHAIR VOTING. I BUY
STERN, NOT LOOTING WIECKOWSKI.
WIECKOWSKI. AYE. OKAY, THAT'S
552. ZERO WITH TWO NON VOTING.
OKAY THAT'S CLOSE. THAT ONE
PASSES ROBERT RIVAS AND ITEM
EIGHT. THIS IS OUR FINAL VOTE
MEMBERS, 21 OH, EIGHT.
ROBERT RIVAS IS ITEM EIGHT. ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT A B 21 8 BY SOME
REMEMBER ROBERT RIVAS. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED,
BUT FIRST AMENDING RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL
RESOURCES AND WATER. THE VOTE IS
50 WITH THE CHAIR VOTING, AYE.
BEISTER NOT VOTING, DALLI DALLI?
NO. OKAY, SO THAT'S 5 TO 1 TO
ONE, RIGHT? OKAY SO THAT THAT
BILL PASSES AS WELL. THANK YOU.
THAT'S OUT. OKAY THANK YOU
MEMBERS. I THINK WE GOT
EVERYBODY'S VOTES COVERED. YES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL BE
BACK. THIS WAS A RELATIVELY
LIGHT WHEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU
KNOW, BUT BUT IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN
GOOD THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING
EVERY WEEK BECAUSE I THINK IT'S
ALLOWED FOR A MUCH MORE
MANAGEABLE SCHEDULE. OUR NEXT
HEARING IS. NEXT WEEK. WE'RE
GOING TO BE A MEETING ON
WEDNESDAY, RIGHT? WEDNESDAY
MORNING, SAYING BAD TIMES NINE
A.M. RIGHT HERE, 12 AND 1200
WITH THAT. LET'S ADJOURN THIS
HEARING OF THE SENATE COMMITTEE
ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.