GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. THE
SENATE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNANCE
AND FINANCE WILL COME TO ORDER.
AS WE CONTINUE TO TAKE SOME
PRECAUTIONS TO MANAGE THE
ONGOING COVID 19 RISKS. THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
PUBLIC AND AS PROVIDED ACCESS TO
BOTH IN PERSON AND
TELECONFERENCE, PARTICIPATION
FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO PROVIDE
PUBLIC COMMENT VIA THE
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE
PARTICIPANT TOLL FREE NUMBER AND
ACCESS CODE IS POSTED ON OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE AND I WILL
ANNOUNCE IT NOW. TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS 844291.
AND THE ACCESS CODE IS ONE FOR
ONE. 11 FOR ONE. I WILL MAINTAIN
DECORUM DURING THE HEARING, AS
IS CUSTOMARY, AND ANY INDIVIDUAL
WHO IS DISRUPTIVE MAY BE REMOVED
FROM THE REMOTE MEETING SERVICE
OR HAVE THEIR CONNECTIONS MUTED.
HAVE TO SAY I HAVE NEVER HAD TO
DO THIS, SO I DON'T EXPECT SO
TODAY. WE ARE HOLDING OUR
COMMITTEE HEARINGS HERE IN ROOM
1 12 OF THE STATE CAPITOL. I ASK
ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO
BE PRESENT SO WE CAN ESTABLISH
OUR QUORUM AND BEGIN OUR
HEARING. WE HAVE SEVEN BILLS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA WITH FIVE BILLS
PROPOSED FOR CONSENT. CONSENT
ITEMS ARE ITEM NUMBER ONE A. B
12 06. BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BENNETT. ITEM TWO A B 12 49 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GALLAGHER. ITEM
FIVE A B 23 24. BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S IRWIN. ITEM SIX
A. B 25 OH, FIVE.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRAY AND ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN A B 29 57. BY THE
COMMITTEE ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
BEFORE WE HEAR PRESENTATIONS ON
THE BILLS. WE NEED TO ESTABLISH
A QUORUM. CONSULTANT. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. SENATORS COPY ETO
ETO PRESIDENT NIELSEN NIELSEN
PRESENT, DURAZO. TERRAZZO
PRESENT. HERTZBERG WIENER. YOU
HAVE A QUORUM. A QUORUM HAS BEEN
ESTABLISHED WITH A QUORUM. WE
CAN TAKE UP OUR CONSENT AGENDA
ITEMS DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
MOTION HAS BEEN MADE MADE BY, UH
SENATOR DURAZO. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. SER SENATORS QUÊ VIETTO.
BYE. I NIELSEN. NILSSON I DURAZO
, DURAZO, HERTZBERG WIENER. 3 TO
0. 320 WE WILL HOLD THE ROLL
OPEN FOR THE MISSING MEMBERS. SO
WE HAVE, UM TWO ITEMS LEFT ON
THE CALENDAR. AND WE HAVE
NEITHER. NEITHER OF THE OH, HERE
WE ARE. YES, I DON'T KNOW. I WAS
LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU AND I IT'S
BEEN A LONG TIME. LET ME JUST
SAY WELCOME. PLEASE COME COME
FORWARD. IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT
I SHOULD HAVE MADE SOME CONTACT
WITH YOU, MADAM CHAIR. WELCOME
GLAD TO SEE YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BIâU ALL IT'S
BEEN A WHILE. THIS BILL. IF
YOU'RE READY FOR ME, I'LL GO.
YOU MAY PROCEED. THIS BILL
DELETES THE JANUARY 1ST 2023
SUNSET DATE FOR AUTHORIZING
COUNTIES TO USE THE CONSTRUCTION
MANAGER AT RISK METHOD. FOR
PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS. SOME
COUNTIES IN OUR STATE. PREFER
THAT METHOD. IT SAVES THEM TIME
AND MONEY. I ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENT TO INSTEAD
EXTEND THE SUNSET UNTIL JANUARY.
1ST 2029 HERE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. IS CHRIS
LEE WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES. VERY
GOOD WELCOME. GOOD MORNING
CHAIR. CAVIAR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE CHRISLEY ON BEHALF OF
THE SPONSOR, THE CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES
HAPPY TODAY TO BE SPONSORING
1932 AUTHORIZES THE CONSTRUCTION
MANAGER AT RISK OF CONTRACTING
METHOD FOR ADDITIONAL YEARS FOR
COUNTIES. AS THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
MENTIONED. A LOT OF COUNTIES
HAVE BEEN USING THIS AUTHORITY.
IT HELPS US BRING PROJECTS IN ON
TIME UNDER BUDGET. IT GIVES US
CERTAINTY AS TO PRICE AND IT
HELPS US WITH CONSTRUCT ABILITY
ISSUES BECAUSE WE GET THE DESIGN
PROFESSIONALS INVOLVED EARLIER
IN THE PROCESS, SO NOT ONLY DOES
THAT HELP US GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MATERIALS
COSTS AND THINGS ARE GOING TO
BE. BUT IF THERE'S ISSUES THAT
ARE ENCOUNTERED AS YOU'RE
PLANNING OUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO
DO THE PROJECT, UM IT'S ABLE,
YOU'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE UP
FRONT RATHER THAN HAVING A LOT
OF CHANGE ORDERS AND THINGS ON
THE BACK END. SO FOR THOSE
REASONS WE SUPPORT THE BILL AND
ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WANT TO SEE IF
THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. IF
SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE
MIC. GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, JONATHAN
CLAY ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF
SAN DIEGO IN SUPPORT IS THERE
ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY HERE IN ROOM 1 12.
SEEING NO FURTHER, UM MOVEMENT
WILL GO TO THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE. AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT. OF A B 1932. THANK YOU
. IF YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS YOUR
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL AND HAVE
NOT ALREADY DONE SO MEAN PRESS
ONE AND THEN ZERO ON YOUR
TELEPHONE AGAIN, THAT'S ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZERO. OUR FIRST
COMMENT COMES FROM LINE 11,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
. THIS IS ELIZABETH ESPINOSA ON
BEHALF OF THE SANTA CLARA COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ALSO IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE
LINE 12. GOOD MORNING, MADAM.
SURE THE NUMBERS NICOLE
TURTLEMAN ON BEHALF OF THE
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. LINE 15. LINE 15 IF YOUR
INTENT IS TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT,
PLEASE PRESS 10 AGAIN. WITH THAT
, MADAM CHAIR THERE NO OTHER
LIONS IN QUEUE FOR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, BUT
WILL BRING THE MATTER BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS OF
THE AUTHOR. YES. SMALL DETAIL.
WE WERE JUST GOING TO GO
STRAIGHT TO SUPPORT AND THAT'S
IT TODAY. THANK YOU FOR ITS
WELL, LET ME JUST SAY THAT I
STARTED OFF THE MORNING WITHOUT
MY BADGE. AND SO YOU CAN'T DO
ANYTHING IN IN OUR SPACE WITHOUT
THE BADGE SO THAT'S GOING TO BE
A REFLECTION OF MY DAY. I'M
SORRY. LET'S MOVE ON TO
OPPOSITION. I AM REMINDED BUT BY
MY GOOD FRIEND, SENATOR DRY SO
THAT I NEED TO ASK FOR
OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYBODY
HERE IN ROOM 1 12 THAT WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
SEEING THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE
TELECONFERENCE LINE AND ASK IF
THERE'S ANYBODY MR MODERATOR
THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. A B 19
THIRTIES LIKE TO SPEAK IN IF YOU
LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF
THIS BILL, A B 1932 MEAN PRESS
10 ON YOUR TELEPHONE COMMAND
AGAIN AS ONE FOLLOWED BY ZERO.
AND THEY'RE IN ALL LINES IN. Q
VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SO MUCH
WILL BE NOW WE'LL BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE AND SEE IF
THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS ARE CONCERNED. VERY
GOOD. SENATOR DURAZO MOVES THE
BILL ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WOULD YOU
LIKE TO FINISH I APPRECIATE YOUR
RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT THE
BILL WITH THE AMENDMENT AND
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I VOTE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. TOURIST QUÊ VIETTO
TOÀN NIELSEN. NIELSEN DURAZO
TERRAZZO HERTZBERG WINNER. 32030
WE WILL PUT THE BILL ON CALL FOR
THE ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU. AND I HOPE YOU
FIND YOUR BADGE. I KNOW WHERE IT
IS. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S
ONE OF THOSE DAYS. THANK YOU. SO
WE HAD ONE MORE AUTHOR LEFT. WE
MIGHT WANT TO CALL AND SEE IF
HE'S ON HIS WAY.
FIRST WEDNESDAY IN JUNE AND NOT
THE THIRD OR FOURTH NGUYEN.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WAITING ON THE
LINE, AND MR MODERATOR, WE HAVE
ONE MORE AUTHOR LEFT TO PRESENT
AND WE'RE WAITING. HE WAS IN
ANOTHER COMMITTEE ROOM. UM SO
WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE HERE FOR A
MINUTE AND LET HIM ARRIVE SO
THAT WE CAN FINISH UP OUR
AGENDA, WHICH IS ONE MORE BILL A
B 2081 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GARCIA. SO THANK YOU, EVERYBODY
FOR YOUR PATIENT.
OKAY I GUESS I THINK WE'RE
READY. WE'RE READY TO ROLL. UM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA IS NOT
AVAILABLE. AND SO, UM, SENATOR
DURAZO HAS HAPPILY AGREED TO
PRESENT HIS BILL A B 2081. ON
MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICTS, WATER
SERVICE AND INDIAN LANDS. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR OFFERING TO DO
THAT THE FLOOR IS YOURS,
SENATOR. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
UM ON BEHALF OF SENATOR GARCIA.
I AM INTRODUCING A B 2081. IN
2017. THE LEGISLATURE PASSED A B
13 61, ALLOWING WATER DISTRICTS
TO NEGOTIATE VOLUNTARY
AGREEMENTS WITH SOVEREIGN TRIBAL
GOVERNMENTS. FOR THE PROVISION
OF WATER SERVICES IN THE MANNER
THAT DOES NOT VIOLATE TRIBAL
SOVEREIGNTY. THE PROVISION OF
THAT BILL ARE SET TO SUNSET ON
JANUARY 1ST 2023 TRIBAL NATIONS
, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE
DEPENDENT ON GROUNDWATER ARE
STILL LOOKING TO SUPPLEMENT
THEIR WATER SUPPLIES BY ENTERING
INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH NEARBY
WATER DISTRICTS. TO ENSURE THOSE
TRIBES HAVE ENOUGH TIME THIS
BIPARTISAN BILL WOULD EXTEND THE
SUNSET TO JANUARY. 1ST 2027. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU. I
WILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
UNDERSTAND THAT THE LEAD SUPPORT
WITNESS IS ON THE PHONE CHAIRMAN
RAYMOND WELSH FROM THE BRANA
BAND OF MISSION IN MISSION
INDIANS. SO, MR MODERATOR, IF
YOU COULD OPEN THE CHAIRMAN'S
LINE. WE CAN START WITH HIS
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. DEADLINE IS
OPEN. CHAIRMAN WELCOME. AKA.
GOOD MORNING CHAIRWOMAN. THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AM RAYMOND
WELSH, CHAIRMAN OF THE BROWN
ABANDONED MISSION INDIANS,
SPEAKING TODAY TO URGE YOUR
SUPPORT OF A OR A B 2081. FIRST
WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA'S 2017
LEGISLATION. WHICH PROVIDED AN
APPROPRIATE PATHWAY FOR SOLVENT,
SOVEREIGN TRIBAL NATION. THE
MIDDLE WATER. SECOND, I BELIEVE
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE
UNFORTUNATE HISTORICAL CONTEXT.
BRUNO'S CURRENT LIMITED ACCESS
TO WATER OUR PEOPLE WERE FORCED
TO MOVE FROM THE ORIGINAL
RESERVATION ALONG THE BANKS OF
THE SEINE RIVER IN 1932. FOR
THAT AL CAPITAN RESERVOIR COULD
BE CONSTRUCTED TO THE BENEFIT OF
URBAN SAN DIEGO. SINCE THE MOVE
TO OUR SUBSTITUTE RESERVATION
AND CURRENT LOCATION BRITAIN HAS
ONLY HAD ACCESS TO GROUNDWATER
SUPPLIES. WHICH IS VERY COMMON
FOR TRIBAL LANDS. WHILE THE
SUPPLIES HAVE BEEN MAXIMIZED AND
SUSTAINABLY USED THROUGH
CONSERVATION AND RECYCLING
UPWARDS. SUPPLEMENTAL WATER IS
CRITICAL IF YOU TRY TO OUR
FUTURE GENERATIONS NÓI
PREDICATES OF TRYING TO SECURE
AN OUTSIDE WATER SOURCE. OAN IS
ACTIVELY NEGOTIATING AGREEMENT
WITH TWO SUPPLEMENTS OR
GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES AND WOULD
APPRECIATE THE SUNSET EXTENSION.
THE STATUE THAT IS SET TO EXPIRE
ON JANUARY 2023. AGREED THE
OFFICIATING THE IMMIGRANT C AS
AUTHORSHIP OF A B 2081. TO
EXTEND THE SENSE THAT IT WAS
PRIOR LEGISLATION FOR THAT
BRONER. ANOTHER TRIDENT SYMBOL.
ONLY YOU CAN MAKE THIS MAKE USE
OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN
ACCESS TO WATER IN A MANNER THAT
IS RESPECTFUL OF HISTORY AND
TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY. THEREFORE
URGENT. I VOTE ON THIS MEASURE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE IN
ROOM 1 12 THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT. MORNING
MADAM CHAIR SENATORS OF THE
COMMITTEE ALEX ELONIS ON BEHALF
HAVE THE CAREER BAND OF INDIANS
, THE OBAMA TELL, UM BAND OF
POMO INDIANS. UM THE, UM. HE HAS
SPENT BAND OF INDIANS IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE
ELSE HERE IN THE ROOM? SEEING NO
FURTHER MOVEMENT WILL GO ON TO
THE TELECONFERENCE LINE. MR
MODERATOR, IF YOU COULD PROMPT
INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF A B 2081,
PLEASE. THANK YOU TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL. IF YOU
HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO IMPRESS
ONE, FOLLOWED BY ZERO ON YOUR
TELEPHONE AGAIN, THAT'S ONE AND
THEN ZERO WILL GO FIRST TO LINE
NUMBER 16. PLEASE GO AHEAD. IT'S
A MAN'S CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE POLIT TREE ON BEHALF
OF THE CHUNGA BAND OF INDIANS
AND THE COLLUSION, THE INDIAN
COMMUNITY AND FULL SUPPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT. WE
HAVE LOVED 17. GOOD MORNING
MELON SHOWING MEMBERS NICK BROKE
OFF ON BEHALF OF THE AGRICULTURE
ADVANTAGE, CREATING STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WITHOUT THERE ARE NO OTHER LIONS
IN QUEUE FOR SUPPORT. VERY GOOD.
WE'LL BRING IT OVER TO THE R.
LEE OUR LEAD OPPOSITION WITNESS
, WHICH IS RENEE LAROCQUE, WHO
IS FROM THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF LOCAL AGENCY
INFORMATION COMMISSION. AND HERE
IN PERSON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. YOU CAN HEAR ME. ALL
RIGHT? AS YOU NOTED, I'M RENEE
LAROCHE. I AM THE NEW EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR FOR TELEMACO THAT
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF LOCAL
AGENCY FORMATION COMMISSIONS AND
BECAUSE OF THE BREVITY OF MY
TENURE IN THAT ROLE I ALSO HAVE
WITH THE JOSE ENRIQUE. SPORT IS
THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR THE
SACRAMENTO LECCO. SHOULD YOU
HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE LAFCO PROCESS? WE'RE
HERE IN OPPOSITION TO 2081. AS
YOU KNOW THE PROVISIONS
ADDRESSED BY A B 2081 ALLOW FOR
THE EXTENSION OF WATER DISTRICTS
ONTO TRIBAL LANDS UNDER CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES UPON REQUEST,
WHILE CALA FICO ACKNOWLEDGES THE
SOVEREIGNTY OF INDIAN TRIBES AND
THEIR RIGHTS TO CONTROL THEIR
OWN LANDS. AS WELL AS THE UNIQUE
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE. IT
MUST BE NOTED THAT THE LAFCO
PROCESS APPLIES TO THE DISTRICT
AND NOT THE TRIBE AND THAT WHEN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN
ANNEXATION FOR LAFCO PURPOSES
THAT ONLY MEANS TO EXPAND THE
SERVICE AREA OF A DISTRICT SO
NORMALLY, SUCH AN EXTENSION OF A
DISTRICT SERVICE WOULD REQUIRE A
FULL LAFCO REVIEW AND ANALYSIS
IN A NOTICED TRANSPARENT AND
PUBLIC PROCESS AT THE CONCLUSION
OF WHICH THE LAFCO COMMISSION
EITHER APPROVES THE DISTRICT,
EXTENDING ITS SERVICES. APPROVES
IT WITH CONDITIONS OR
DISAPPROVES IT, HOWEVER, UNDER
THE PROVISION THAT WOULD BE
AFFECTED BY AN EXTENDED SUNSET
DATE, A LAFCO CANNOT DISAPPROVE
A PROJECT. SO EXTENDING THE
SUNSET DATES WILL CONTINUE TO
PREORDAINED THE LAFCO OUTCOME
AND THAT REMOVES DATA DRIVEN
DECISION MAKING, AND, MORE
IMPORTANTLY, IT REMOVES THE
SOUND AREA STRATEGIC PLANNING
FROM CONSIDERATION. AND IT IS
AREA STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT IS
CENTRAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF
SUSTAINABLE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND
YES, THERE IS SUCH A THING AS
UNSUSTAINABLE INFRASTRUCTURE,
WHICH, ACCORDING TO A 2016
BROOKINGS INSTITUTE REPORT,
TITLED DELIVERING ON SUSTAINABLE
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR BETTER
DEVELOPMENT AND BETTER CLIMATE
CAN HAVE ADVERSE EFFECTS,
INCLUDING EXACERBATING INCOME
INEQUALITY, INCREASED MORTALITY
AND MORBIDITY RATES AND
IRREVERSIBLE ECOSYSTEM DAMAGE. I
WOULD ARGUE THAT THE PLANNING
PROCESS AGAINST THESE ADVERSE
IMPACTS IS PRECISELY WHAT IS AN
UNFETTERED LAFCO PROCESS
PROVIDES SO FINALLY NOT ONLY IS
REQUIRING AUTOMATIC LAFCO
APPROVALS, THE ANTITHESIS OF THE
PLANNING AND OVERSIGHT OF
DISTRICTS FOR WHICH LAUGH CODES
WERE CREATED. IT ALSO SETS UP
PROCEDURAL INEQUITIES BECAUSE NO
OTHER GROUP OR APPLICANT HAS A
SIMILAR RIGHT TO AN AUTOMATIC
APPLICATION APPROVAL. IT REMOVES
LOCAL CONTROL BY NEGATING THE
CONCERNS OF THE DISTRICT
CONSTITUENTS AND IN DIMINISHING
OR IGNORING THOSE CRITICAL LONG
RANGE STRATEGIC PLANNING
DOCUMENTS. IT MAY ALSO HAVE
ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES ON OTHER
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES THAT
HAVE BEEN TARGETED FOR THE NEXT
PHASE OF INFRASTRUCTURE BUILD
OUT. THAT'S FOR ALL THOSE
REASONS AND MORE. WE
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU
VOTE NO ON A B 2081. THANK YOU.
CHAIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS
THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ROOM 1 12
THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. GETTING THEN WE'LL
MOVE ON TO THE TELECONFERENCE
LINE AND ASK THE MODERATOR TO
PEOPLE PLEASE QUEUE UP.
WITNESSES WHO WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY AGAINST A B 2081. THANK
YOU TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. WE IMPRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO ON YOUR TELEPHONE AGAIN.
THAT'S ONE AND THEN ZERO. THINK
MANAGER AT THIS TIME. THERE ARE
NO LINES IN QUÊ. VERY GOOD WILL
BRING THE MATTER BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE AND ASK FOR QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS. SENATOR HERTZBERG. TWO
THINGS FIRST IS CHAIRMAN WELSHED
ON THE LINE. YES. CHAIRMAN WELSH
GERMAN WALSH. YES. GOOD MORNING.
QUICK QUESTION. GOOD, SIR. THANK
YOU FOR THIS. YOU KNOW, I JUST
WANT TO KNOW AS I CONSIDER THIS
DID YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
TALK TO CHAIRMAN JO WILSON, UH,
CONSULT WITH HIM ON THIS AND I'D
LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HIS OPINION IS
AS AN ELDER AND WHAT HE THINKS
IS. DID YOU CONSULT WITH HIM AND
SEE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
LEGISLATION? YES, HE'S VERY
VOCAL ABOUT IT. HE'S IN VERY
MUCH SUPPORT IN CONTACT WITH HIM
QUITE A BIT. OKAY WELL, THAT'S
GOOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT YOU TALK TO HIM BECAUSE I
AM VOTING ON NOTHING. LISTEN, WE
TALKED TO HIM FIRST. I AGREE
WITH SECOND QUESTION IS WITH
RESPECT TO THE LAFCO ISSUE. I
DID NOTICE THE LANGUAGE, AND I
WANTED JUST I THINK THERE'S A
DISTINCTION IN HOW THE LANGUAGE
IS WRITTEN, BECAUSE CERTAINLY
YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN AREA OF THE
LAW THAT I HAVE SPENT A GREAT
DEAL OF TIME WORKING ON. IN
ADDITION, AS CHAIR OF THIS
COMMITTEE, I CALL THIS, UH, THE
COMMITTEE OF EXCEPTIONS BECAUSE
I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT OVER
THE YEARS. WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH
LAFCO HALF OF LEGISLATION? WE DO
EXCEPTIONS, BUT WHAT THIS
LEGISLATION SAYS, AND PAGE TWO
LINES 25 26 CARRY OVER TO PAGE
THREE. IT DOES INDEED SAY THE
LOCAL AGENCY FORMATION
COMMISSION SHALL APPROVE THE
APPLICATION. BUT IT SAYS IT MAY
IMPOSE CONDITIONS ON THE
DISTRICT WITH REGARD TO
EXTENSION OF SERVICES. AND MAKE
SURE THAT THOSE ARE NOT ARE
IMPOSED WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THEIR
ISSUES WITH RESPECT BECAUSE
THERE ARE A LOT OF LOCAL
CHALLENGES I'VE CERTAINLY
EXPERIENCED IT WAS LAFCO
AGENCIES AND THE LIKE. AND SO IT
SEEMS TO ME THAT ON THE ONE HAND
, IT CHANGES THE TONE OF THE
DISCUSSION. BUT ON THE OTHER
HAND IT IT BASICALLY SAYS FINE.
YOU CAN'T SAY NO, BUT YOU COULD
PUT CONDITIONS IN THAT MEET THE
NEEDS OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO
DO. SO I DO THINK YOUR QUESTION
ABOUT PRESIDENTS IMPORTANT. BUT
I THINK THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, UM
BASICALLY FORCES YOU TO A YES,
BUT IT'LL OUTLINES CONDITIONS
AND THOSE CONDITIONS ARE WHEN
YOU TALK ABOUT ON, YOU KNOW.
AUTOMATIC APPROVAL. IT'S NOT
AUTOMATIC APPROVAL, YOU'LL
OUTLINE WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS
ARE. THOSE CONDITIONS WILL BE
CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU
NORMALLY DO. IT SAYS THAT AND,
UM IT, I THINK IT ENDS UP
RESULTING IN A FASTER DECISION
AND BETTER DECISION AND FOR THAT
. I APPRECIATE THE FACT MR
CHAIRMAN THAT YOU CONSULTED WITH
THE CHAIRMAN WELSH, THE OTHER
GERMAN WELSH FROM THE SEVENTIES
AND EIGHTIES, AND I ASSUME
SISTER ROMERO, AND IN ADDITION,
I WANT TO MOVE THE BILL. VERY
GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BYE
SENATOR HERTZBERG AND THE OTHER
COMMENTS ARE QUESTIONS. ONE
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE OBVIOUS. UH
CONDITIONS THAT I THINK ARE REAL
IMPORTANT. SENATOR RIZZO, YOU
MAY CONCLUDE. THANK YOU. JUST UH
, ONE REMINDER THAT THIS IS A
SUNSET EXTENSION, AND OF COURSE
, WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
RE EVALUATE IT WHEN THAT'S WHEN
WE REACH THAT SUNSET. UM I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THE MOTION IS DO
PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SENATORS
CAVEAT. TOÀN TOÀN NIELSEN.
NIELSEN I DURAZO HAS OH, I
HERTZBERG HERTZBERG? AYE,
WIENER. 40 0. 4 TO 0. WE'RE
GOING TO PUT THAT ON CALL AND
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SENATOR FOR
DOING THE BILL. FOR
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA. AND I
THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO WHO
IS HERE? WE'RE GONNA WE'RE JUST
GOING TO WAIT AND SEE IF WE CAN
GET SENATOR WIENER HERE SO THAT
WE CAN GET HIM ON THE VOTES
OTHERWISE OR FEAR FREE TO GO.
UM, SENATOR WIENER. SO WE ARE
NEARING WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR
HEARING AND WE HAVE ALL THE
BILLS ON CALL. IF ALL MEMBERS
COULD PLEASE RETURN TO THE
HEARING IMMEDIATELY, SO WE CAN
FINISH LIFTING THE CALLS WITHOUT
DELIGHT. SO WE IF YOU'D GIVE US
ONE MINUTE. WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET
SENATOR WIENER OVER HERE AS
WELL. OKAY, THAT SOUNDS VERY
GOOD. SO WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO
SEE IF WE SHOULD WAIT, I WANT TO
THANK ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
PARTICIPATED IN PUBLIC TESTIMONY
TODAY. AND IF YOU WERE, IF YOU
WERE NOT ABLE TO TESTIFY, PLEASE
SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS OR
SUGGESTED SUGGESTIONS IN WRITING
TO THE GOVERNANCE AND FINANCE
COMMITTEE OR YOU CAN VISIT OUR
WEBSITE. YOUR COMMENTS AND
SUGGESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO US.
WE WANT TO INCLUDE YOUR
TESTIMONY IN THE OFFICIAL
HEARING RECORD. THANK YOU. AND
WE APPRECIATE YOUR
PARTICIPATION.
YES SO WE'LL TAKE UP THE CONSENT
AGENDA ITEMS. THERE ARE FIVE
ITEMS ON THAT. IF YOU COULD
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION
IS TO ADOPT THE CONSENT CALENDAR
. CURRENT VOTE IS 3 TO 0
SENATORS HERTZBERG HERTZBERG?
AYE, WIENER. 42020 WILL PUT THAT
BACK ON CALL. AND YES, WE HAVE
THE FILE NUMBER. FILE NUMBER
THREE A B 1930 1932.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DAILY. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL PROMOTION IS DO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE SENATE
FLOOR. CURRENT VOTE IS 3 TO 0
SENATORS HERTZBERG HERTZBERG?
AYE, WIENER. 40 00, AND WE'LL
PUT THAT ON CALL AS WELL. THANK
YOU.
THE SENATE GOVERNANCE AND
FINANCE IS GOING TO BE IN
RECESS. WE'RE WAITING FOR ONE
MEMBER TO COME AND VOTE SO WE
CAN TELL YOU THE VOTES AND
FINISH UP OUR HEARING. AND SO I
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND
YOUR ATTENDANCE.
GOVERNANCE AND FINANCE COMMITTEE
IS, UM BACK. IN SESSION. WE UH
WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE
CONSENT ITEMS. THE VOTE IS FOR
20 ON THAT ONE. PLEASE CALL THE
MISSING MEMBER. SENATOR WIENER
WINNER. AYE. THAT BILL IS OUT 5
TO 0. MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER THREE A. B 1932 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DOLLY. THAT
VOTE IS FOR 20. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. SENATOR WIENER WIENER.
AYE. THAT BILL IS OUT 5 TO 0.
AND THEN MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOUR A B 2081 BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER EDUARDO GARCIA. THAT BILL
IS FOR 20. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
SENATOR WIENER WIENER. AYE. THAT
BILL IS OUT 5 TO 0. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES THE
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