COMMITTEE --
WE'RE SERVICES SUBCOMMITTEE HERE
WERE STILL WAITING FOR FULL
MEMBERSHIP TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM --
I KNOW THERE'S JUDICIARY PENDING.
SALADA COMPETING COMMITTEES HERE
BUT FIGURED EVERYONE'S CONVENE
WE DON'T TO BELABOR THIS --
SO GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT
LEAST START WITH YOUR OPENING
AND THEN.
HOPEFULLY SERGEANTS DO WE KNOW
OR OTHER MEMBERS BEEN CALLED.
ALRIGHT --
WELCOME CENTER MULLIN AB FOR
THANK YOU SIR.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT AB EIGHTY FOUR WHICH HAS
GENERATED.
SOME INTEREST AS YOU CAN SEE
WITH OUR FOLKS IN THE ROOM HERE
OF I DO WANT TO CLARIFY.
SOME MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT WHAT
THE BILL DOES.
FIRST OF ALL.
AS MOST IN THIS ROOM NOW I HAVE
BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE AS
STRONG CHAMPION. FOR
TRANSPARENCY AND DISCLOSURE IN
CAMPAIGN FINANCE.
I WAS A PROUD AUTHOR OF AB TWO
FORTY NINE THE DISCLOSE ACT OF
TWENTY SEVENTEEN THIS YEAR I AM
THE PROUD AUTHOR OF AB TWENTY
ONE EIGHTY EIGHT THE SOCIAL
MEDIA DISCLOSE ACT.
IN A WORKING CLOSELY WITH MANY
OF THE SAME ADVOCATES UP BEHIND
ME WITH.
TRENT LOTT LANG FROM CALIFORNIA
CLEAN MONEY ARE AND OTHER SO
NORMALLY WEAR ON THE SAME SIDE
OF THE TABLE A TODAY THAT'S NOT
THE CASE BUT TOM.
I AM ON THE SAME PAGE WITH
NEARLY EVERYONE I IN THE ROOM ON
THE ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY IN OUR ELECTIONS
PROCESS.
BUT WE DO HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF
OPINION ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE --
WHICH IS MANIFESTED IN AB --
EIGHTY FOUR IN JULY I AMENDED MY
BILL AB EIGHTY FOUR WHICH IS
CONSISTENT WITH THOSE VALUES ARE
AND POLICY.
PRESCRIPTIONS AB EIGHTY FOUR
SIMPLY EXTRACTS FROM THE CURRENT
OPAQUE POLITICAL PARTY FUND
RAISING PROCESS.
AND CREATES A PARALLEL COMMITTEE
AND ADDS MUCH NEEDED SUNSHINE.
THAT'S IT.
THAT'S WHAT THE BILL DOES SOME
OPPONENTS HAVE DESCRIBED AB
EIGHTY FOUR AS A SHADOW SYSTEM.
THAT WILL BRING IN MOUNTAINS OF
MORE OUTSIDE CORPORATE MONEY AND
THAT MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE
WILL BE BEHOLDEN TO THOSE
INTERESTS [inaudible]
I DISAGREE.
THE MOUNTAINS OF OUTSIDE
CORPORATE MONEY OFTEN COMES IN
THE FORM OF INDEPENDENT
EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES WE PLAY
AN INCREASING ROLE.
IN OUR POLITICS BEYOND THE REACH
OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AND BEYOND THE REACH IN MANY
RESPECTS OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
THE REALITY IS ELECTIONS IN
CALIFORNIA.
ARE ENORMOUSLY EXPENSIVE I
DISLIKE FUNDRAISING MOST ELECTED
OFFICIALS I KNOW DO BUT I AM AN
ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN THIS
PROCESS.
UNFORTUNATELY IN CALIFORNIA TO
GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT IT IS
INCREASINGLY EXPENSIVE AND UNTIL
WE COME UP WITH ANOTHER WAY LIKE
PUBLIC FINANCING WE HAVE TO
FUNDRAISE TO GET ELECTED
[inaudible]
STATE ELECTED. TO BE SURE MONEY
IS BEING RAISED FROM LOTS OF
DIFFERENT SOURCES.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT UNDER THE
EXISTING PARTY SYSTEM IT IS VERY
DIFFICULT TO TRACK DONORS AND
RECIPIENTS.
ALL A AB EIGHTY FOUR DOES IS
ALLOW FUNDS TO BE DIRECTLY
DONATED TO THE FOR CAUCUS LEADER
COMMITTEES.
AND REQUIRE MONTHLY REPORTS OF
MONEY DONATED AND MONEY
ALLOCATED YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE
WHICH LEADER SOLICITED FUNDS.
WHO DONATED AND HOW THAT MONEY
WAS SPENT SOMETHING THAT WOULD
TAKE A FORENSIC ACCOUNTING
PROCESS RIGHT NOW TO FIGURE OUT
THROUGH OUR CURRENT PARTY BASED
[inaudible]
SYSTEM.
I HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY I THINK
IN RESPONSE PROBABLY TO WHAT WE
HEAR IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE
ISSUES I THINK I BELIEVE THAT
THAT MISTER CHAIR.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO A HEARING OUT FROM THE PUBLIC --
A PUBLIC WHICH UP I THINK
NORMALLY I I AM IN ALIGNMENT
WITH WHEN IT COMES TO THESE
ISSUES AROUND DISCLOSURE AND
TRANSPARENCY THANK MISTER.
THANK YOU ASSEMBLY MEMBER --
DO WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES HERE IN
SUPPORT.
SO I WOULD JUST PAUSE FOR A
BRIEF MOMENT --
AND ESTABLISH A QUORUM THAT'S
ALRIGHT --
IT'S CALDERON.
STERN HERE STERN HERE ANDERSON
YOUR ANDERSON HERE ALLEN.
HERTZBERG HERE HERTZBERG HERE
LEYVA.
THANK YOU SO SEEING NO WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT --
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION --
PLEASE COME FORWARD I THINK WHAT
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO HERE I
KNOW THERE'S THERE'S FOLKS HAVE
TRAVELED FROM ALL OVER THE STATE --
WERE GONNA TRY TO DIVVY UP THE
OPPOSITION TESTIMONIALS OF FOUR
MINUTES EACH.
AND THEN EVERYONE ELSE WILL HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY --
TO TWO SUSPECTED SAY YOUR NAME
WHERE YOU'RE FROM AND YOUR
POSITION ON THE BILL BUT IF THE
IF THE FOLKS IN THEIR ROOM WHEN
JUSTIN TOLD ME THAT WHAT WE'RE
GOING TO GET INTO THE SUBSTANCE
OF IT ALL TOO BUT JUST IN TERMS
OF PROCESS.
I AFTER THE INITIAL OPPOSITION
TESTING WE'RE JUST GONNA ASKED
NAME WHERE YOU'RE FROM AND
POSITION ON BILL --
WITHOUT FURTHER ADO --
THE FLOOR IS YOURS SO GOOD
AFTERNOON SENATORS ON HELEN
HUTCHISON AND I'M THE PRESIDENT
OF THE LEGAL MOVE VOTERS OF
CALIFORNIA.
THE LEAGUE FIGHTS EVERYDAY TO
BILL THE PUBLIC'S FAITH IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. TO COMBAT
CYNICISM CYNICISM AND THE
CATARACT THE PERCEPTION THAT THE
VOTING THAT VOTING IN OUR
ELECTIONS IS A POINTLESS FUNERAL
EXERCISE.
THERE'S LITTLE DOUBT THAT MONEY
PRESENTS THE GREATEST THREAT TO
OUR REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY
TODAY.
AB EIGHTY FOUR MAKES THIS
PROBLEM EVEN WORSE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE BILL WAS
IN THE WORKS FOR A YEAR.
THE FIRST WE HEARD OF IT WAS
WHEN THE LANGUAGE WAS INTRODUCED.
AS A GUT AND AMEND THE DAY
BEFORE RECESS.
A BILL THAT A MAN'S THE PUBLIC
REFORM ACT THE LAW THAT IS
DESIGNED TO PREVENT CORRUPTION
AND THE UNFAIR PROTECTION OF
INCUMBENTS.
SURELY NOT BE CRAFTED IN THE
BACK ROOMS AND PASSED AT THE
ELEVENTH HOUR WITHOUT ANY REAL
OPPORTUNITY FOR MEANINGFUL
PUBLIC INPUT.
THE LEAGUE IS STRONGLY OPPOSED
TO A. B. EIGHTY FOUR BOTH AS A
MATTER OF OF SUBSTANCE AND OF
PROCESS.
CHAIR STERN MEMBERS.
NICHOLAS HAD ON WITH CALIFORNIA
COMMON CAUSE. ONE BEGIN BY
SAYING THAT WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL
OF RESPECT FOR SOMEONE MEMBER
MELONES WORK ON ELECTIONS AND
CAMPAIGN FINANCE IN FACT COME
BECAUSE HE SCORED MORE MULLIN
DOES THIS YEAR.
THAN ANY OTHER AUTHOR.
NOTING THAT WE MUST NONE THE
LESS RESPECTFULLY BUT FIRMLY
OPPOSE A. B. EIGHTY FOUR IN OUR
OPINION AB.
EIGHTY FOUR WILL BE THE BIGGEST
ROLLBACK CALIFORNIAS CAMPAIGN
FINANCE LAW IN AT LEAST A DECADE.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND MOST
STATES INCLUDING CALIFORNIA HAVE
CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION LIMITS
CONTRIBUTION ITSELF TO RUN
CORRUPTION UNDUE INFLUENCE.
AND THE DISPIRITING APPEARANCE.
OF CORRUPTION BY PRINTING
CANDIDATES MUST LEGISLATORS FROM
OVERLY RELIANT ON HUGE DONATIONS
FROM ANYONE WEALTHY CONTRIBUTORS.
FOR THAT REASON CALIFORNIA'S YOU
WELL KNOW CAN IT'S FOR OFFICE
ARE PROHIBITED FROM ACCEPTING
CONTRIBUTIONS CURTAIN FORTY FOUR
HUNDRED DOLLARS FROM ANYONE
DONOR.
UNFORTUNATELY AB EIGHTY FOUR
WOULD SERIOUSLY UNDERMINE HIS
CAMPAIGN FINANCE PROTECTIONS AS
THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERS.
AND THEIR ROLES DIRECTING THE
FOR NEW CAUCUS COMMITTEES
LEADERS COULD ACCEPT THIRTY SIX
THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR
CONTRIBUTIONS TO SPEND ON DIRECT
CONTRIBUTIONS.
IN UNLIMITED AMOUNTS. TWO OTHER
CANDIDATES.
THIS IS MORE THAN EIGHT TIMES
HIGHER THAN CURRENT CANDID
LIMITS.
IN FACT THAT LIMIT IS HIGHER
THAN CALIFORNIA'S PER CAPITA
INCOME.
TYPICAL VOTERS ARE NOT MAXING
OUT OF FORTY FOUR HUNDRED DOLLAR
LEVEL AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT
ANY MAXING OUT AT THIRTY SIX
THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR
LEVEL.
ONLY WEALTHY SPECIAL INTERESTS
WILL BE ABLE TO DO SO.
THERE'S MORE THEM CHANDER AB
EIGHTY FOUR LEADERS COULD EVEN
SOLICIT RECEIVED THEN SPEND.
UNLIMITED FUNDS ON INDEPENDENT
SPENDERS SUPPORTING CAN CANDID
CAMPAIGNS SOMETHING THAT IS
ILLEGAL UNDER CURRENT LAW.
CORD OF THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME
COURT THE PURPOSE OF THE
POLITICAL REFORM ACT JUST
RANSACK QUOTE CORRUPTION OF THE
POLITICAL PROCESS.
THE AXE FINDINGS AND PURPOSES
WHICH EGGMAN UNCHANGED SINCE
THEIR PASSED IN NINETEEN
SEVENTIES.
CIVIC QUOTE PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO
PERFORM THEIR DUTIES IN AN
IMPARTIAL MANNER FREE FROM BIAS
BECAUSE BY THE FINANCIAL
INTERESTS OF PEOPLE WHO
SUPPORTED THEM.
INCREASING A FULL THE AMOUNT THE
LEADERS CAN RECEIVE FROM WEALTHY
DONORS WHO'VE INTEREST BEFORE
THIS BODY SIMPLY DOES NOT
FURTHER THAT PURPOSE.
ANOTHER PURPOSELY ACT IS TO
ABOLISH QUOTE LAWS AND PRACTICES
UNFAIRLY BENEFITING INCUMBENTS.
HOWEVER AB EIGHTY FOUR SAYS IN
THE LAW THE CAUCUS COMMITTEE
FUNDS SHOULD BE USED TO QUOTE
ADVANCE THE INTERESTS OF LESS OF
CAUCUS MEETING CAUCUS INCUMBENTS.
THAT TOO DOES NOT FURTHER THE
PURPOSES OF THE ACT.
WE'RE IN A TIME OF GREAT
NATIONAL CYNICISM WITH DEMOCRACY
WE NEED AT THIS POINT B.
STRENGTHENING NOT LISTENING.
OUR CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS.
FINALLY I WON'T MENTION THE
COMMON CAUSE HAS GREAT CONCERNS
ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS BILL
WHICH IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD
AT THE END OF SESSION AND WITH
AN URGENCY BECAUSE WE SHOULD NOT
BE MAKING HUGE CHANGES TO OUR
CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS WITH
UNCERTAIN CONSEQUENCES.
IN THE HOME STRETCH OF AN
ELECTION WITH ONLY A MONTH
REVIEW. FOR ALL THESE REASONS WE
OPPOSE EIGHTY EIGHTY FOUR AND WE
URGE THE MEMBERS OF COMMITTEE
SUPPOSE BILLS WELL.
THANK.
THANK YOU MISTER EINHORN --
WILL TAKE --
THE REMAINING [inaudible]
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION CERTAIN
TO MORAL LEAD AND THEN.
SO FOUR MINUTES [inaudible]
ACTUALLY.
YOU'RE.
YOU'RE [inaudible]
FOR DO.
I DID IF I WE CAN RESERVE THEY
WERE SHORT SO.
I'M CERTAINLY PLEASED YET WHEN
DID WE MIGHT BE MISUNDERSTOOD
IT'S OKAY.
GOOD AFTERNOON THANK YOU
CHAIRMAN STERN.
A GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THE MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC MY NAME IS TO ROCCO LEARN
MORE HALL.
I'M THE VICE CHAIR OF THE
CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY ON
BEHALF OF CHAIRMAN BAO MEN ON MY
FELLOW STATEWIDE OFFICERS AND
THE ENTIRE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC
PARTY WE URGE A NO VOTE ON AB.
EIGHTY FOUR YOU KNOW THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY ISN'T KNOWN FOR
BEING I'M ALWAYS IN LOCKSTEP --
WERE KIND OF FAMOUSLY A FREE
THINKERS A BUT FOR A PARTY THAT
HAS BEEN AT EACH OTHER'S THROATS
FOR THE LAST YEAR OVER LIKE RE
LITIGATING THE TWENTY SIXTEEN
PRIMARY ELECTION.
THIS BILL HAS UNIFIED THE PARTY
MORE THAN ANYTHING I'VE SEEN IN
MY TENURE AS A PARTY OFFICER IN
TEN YEARS [inaudible]
I'M.
EVERY ELEMENT OF THIS PARTY FROM
THE TOP LEVEL WITH A UNANIMOUS
DECISION BY OUR EXECUTIVE BOARD
DOWN TO THE SCORES OF CENTRAL
COMMITTEES COUNTY CENTRAL
COMMITTEES AND CLUBS.
THAT HAVE BEEN CALLING THE
REPRESENTATIVES SENDING IN
LETTERS AND PASSING RESOLUTIONS
ARE FINALLY SPEAKING WITH ONE
VOICE TO SAY THAT A. B..
EIGHTY FOUR WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL
TO OUR PARTY'S ABILITY TO HONOR
OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES IT
WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO ENGAGING
NEW ACTIVISTS IN NEW VOLUNTEERS
IT'S DETRIMENTAL TO BUILDING
POLITICAL POWER WHICH IS OUR
CHARGE.
AND FRANKLY HONESTLY IN IF I CAN
SPEAK ESPECIALLY DIRECTLY TO THE
DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE.
IT IS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR ABILITY
IF LONG TERM IN ELECTING MORE
DEMOCRATS TO THIS CHAMBER AND
EVERY OTHER CHAMBER IN THE STATE.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT
FRANKLY IF WE CAN JUST BE HONEST
THIS IS NOT A TRANSPARENCY BILL.
ASKING OUR COMMITTEES TO FILE
THREE MORE --
REPORTS A YEAR IS NOT GOING TO
DO ANYTHING TO ADVANCE OTHER
CLEAN MONEY BECAUSE I'M IN
ADDITION IF THERE ARE ISSUES
WITH TRANSPARENCY IN THE CURRENT
SYSTEM WE AS A PARTY ARE
ABSOLUTELY OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT.
REFORMS THAT WOULD MAKE IT WOULD
ADD MORE TRANSPARENCY TO THE WAY
THAT WE WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS
IN THE LEGISLATURE TO ELECT
DEMOCRATS [inaudible]
I'M.
WE NEED DON'T ALWAYS SEE EYE TO
EYE A 100% WITH OUR FRIENDS AND
THEY ARE FRIENDS IN THE GOOD
GOVERNMENT COMMUNITY.
AND WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENCES
HERE AND THERE AND POLICY BUT
THEY ARE 1100% RIGHT BUT THERE'S
TOO MUCH MONEY IN POLITICS.
AND THAT WE NEED TO BE MOVING
THE BALL FORWARD THIS BILL IS A
STEP BACKWARDS CALIFORNIA
POLITICS SIMPLY DOES NOT NEED
MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BIG
CHECKS TO GO TO CAMPAIGNS PERIOD.
BUT FOR US THERE'S AN ADDED
ELEMENT HERE THAT IS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT AN EXISTENTIAL.
POLITICAL PARTY FUNDRAISING
COMMITTEES SHOULD BE CONTROLLED
BY POLITICAL PARTIES.
THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL LOGIC OF
THE HISTORY OF CAMPAIGN FINANCE
REFORM IN THE STATE AND I THINK
IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ANYBODY
YOU TALK TO ON THE STREET.
IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THE LAW AS WRITTEN THAT ALLOWS
US TO GET BIGGER CONTRIBUTIONS
THAN AN INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATE AND
MAKE UNLIMITED EXPENDITURES TO
SUPPORT OUR CANDIDATES IT'S
WRITTEN BECAUSE POLITICAL
PARTIES CAMPAIGN FOR TONS OF
CANDIDATES UP AND DOWN THE STATE.
SO IT MAKES SENSE BUT THE WHAT
MAKES THAT ACCOUNTABLE IN
DEMOCRATIC IS THAT THOSE
COMMITTEES ARE ARE ACCOUNTABLE
AND BEHOLDEN AND CONTROLLED BY
DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED.
LEADERSHIP AND ACTIVISTS OF A
POLITICAL PARTY WHAT THAT MEANS
CONCRETELY IS FOR EXAMPLE THE
CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS
A POLICY.
THE WE DO NOT TAKE DIRECT
CONTRIBUTIONSFROM THE FOSSIL
FUEL INDUSTRY WE CANNOT TAKE
DIRECT CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE
PRIVATE PRISON INDUSTRY.
WE MADE THOSE DECISIONS TOUGH AS
THEY ARE BECAUSE WE'D LIKE
ANYBODY UP ON THIS DYESS ARE
POLITICAL ANIMALS AND KNOW WHAT
WHAT CAMPAIGNS COST WE DID
BECAUSE OF OVERWHELMING PRESSURE
FROM OUR GRASSROOTS ACTIVISTS.
IT WAS A DEMOCRATIC DECISION.
EIGHTY EIGHTY FOUR WOULD ALLOW
OUR LEADERSHIP IN THE
LEGISLATURE TO SIDE STEP BACK
DEMOCRATIC DECISION.
MOST FUNDAMENTALLY IN ORDER FOR
A CANDIDATE TO GET THE THE
PRIVILEGE OR THE ADVANTAGE OF
SUPPORT OF A PARTY COMMITTEE
THEY SHOULD BE ENDORSED BY A
POLITICAL PARTY.
AND WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR
ENDORSEMENT BUT FRANKLY IF I CAN
BE [inaudible]
TOTALLY HONEST WE GIVE OUR
ELECTED OFFICIALS EXTRA VOISIN
AND OUR LEADERSHIP IN THE
ASSEMBLY AND SENATE EXTRA VOICE
AND SO THAT THEY CAN BAKED HAM.
INTERVENE TO HELP US CHOOSE WHO
THAT CANDIDATE IS WITH A BIGGER
VOICE FRANKLY THAN OUR AVERAGE
MEMBERSHIP.
THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE PARTNERSHIP
AB EIGHTY FOUR IS IKE YOUR
FILING DIVORCE PAPERS.
AND SAYING THAT INSTEAD OF THAT
PARTNERSHIP YOU YOU WILL BE ABLE
TO GO IT ALONE CHOOSE YOUR OWN
CANDIDATES.
CAMPAIGN FOR WHOMEVER NO MATTER
WHO THE PARTY HAS CHOSEN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN CONTINUE.
AS AN ACTIVIST TO GO AND TALK TO
YOUNG PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF COLOR
AND UNION MEMBERS AND
DISAFFECTED FOLKS IN THE SOCIETY
AND SAY HEY IF YOU WANT TO MAKE
A CHANGE A GOOD WAY TO DO THAT.
IS TO COME AND GET INVOLVED IN
OUR PARTY AND THEN YOU HAVE A
MEANINGFUL SAY OVER OUR PLATFORM
AND A MEANINGFUL SAY OVER WHO
ARE CANDIDATES ARE.
ó BUT BY THE WAY ARE LEADERS
IN THE ASSEMBLY IN THE SENATE IF
THEY DISAGREE WITH US CAN JUST
TURN AROUND AND RUN A CAMPAIGN
WITH GIGANTIC A CONTRIBUTIONS.
TOTALLY SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT
FROM WHATEVER YOU'VE JUST HAD AN
INPUT INTO AND WHATEVER DECISION
WE'VE MADE US PARTY.
NOBODY WANTS THIS BILL.
YOU CAN SEE FROM THE COALITION
THAT HAS ASSEMBLED HERE.
FROM HE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS
TO YOUR OWN CONSTITUENTS AND
ACTIVISTS BUT WEAR OUT THEIR
SHOES TO PUT YOU IN OFFICE
NOBODY WANTS THIS BILL I HAVEN'T
HEARD A SINGLE WORD OF SUPPORT.
FROM ANYBODY WHO FRANKLY DOESN'T
WORK IN THIS BUILDING.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IT'S
RUSHED WE CAN FIX THE PROBLEMS
THAT HAVE BEEN THAT HAVE BEEN
BROUGHT UP IN A MORE TRANSPARENT
AND COLLABORATIVE WAY.
I ASK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
STOP THIS BILL NOW WOULD SIT
DOWN LIKE ADULTS AND PARTNERS
AND WORK AND WORK TO MOVE THE
BALL FORWARD ON GETTING MONEY
OUT OF POLITICS AND FRANKLY MORE
DEMOCRATS IN OFFICE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MISTER VICE CHAIR.
AND IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST BE
BRIEF.
IS THERE A YEAH ANSWER EMILY
RAIMES.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CAL PER
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC INTEREST
RESEARCH GROUP I'M SO I'M JUST
IN CLOSING I WANT SUPPLY ONCE
AGAIN ECHO MIGHT THE COMMENTS OF
CALIFORNIA COMMON CAUSE AND WE
CAN WIN VOTERS THAT WE ARE VERY
CONCERNED THAT THIS BILL IN
PARTICULAR OPENS UP. FOR NEW
AVENUES FOR REALLY BIG
CONTRIBUTIONS TO FLOW INTO OUR
POLITICAL SYSTEM.
WE'VE LONG OPPOSE CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTION LIMITS THAT ARE OUT
OF REACH FOR ORDINARY
CALIFORNIANS.
THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND
CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT
SIXTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS IF
YOU TAKE YOU KNOW THE CONCEPT OF
EACH SPOUSE BEING ABLE TO GIVE.
THIRTY SIX FIVE UNDER THIS BILL
THAT'S EASILY EXCEEDING THE
MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN
CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW.
I'M.
AND FORTY FOUR I SENT FORTY FOUR
HUNDRED DOLLAR CAMPAIGN COUNTRY
SOME SORT LEGISLATIVE CANDIDATES
ARE ALREADY OUT OF REACH FOR
MOST AVERAGE CALIFORNIA TO WHAT
THEY COULD AFFORD TO GIVE TO THE
CANDIDATE OF THEIR CHOICE.
I'M SO WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THIS
BILL WILL LEAD TO MORE.
REALLY BIG CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE
POLITICAL SYSTEM.
I'M AND WELL WE UNDERSTAND THAT
THE BILL WAS DESIGNED TO YOU ARE
NOT WRITTEN IN PART TO COUNTER
THE EFFECTS OF INDEPENDENT
EXPENDITURES FLOWING INTO
ELECTION SYSTEMS.
AND YOU KNOW I WANT TO NOTE THAT
WHILE WE OPPOSE THE SUPREME
COURT DECISIONS THAT LED TO
INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES
BALLOONING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL
EARS WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS
BILL IS AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE.
ONE OF OUR CONCERNS IS THAT THE
PERCEPTION OF CORRUPTION IS
HIGHER.
WIN BIG DONORS GIVE DIRECTLY TO
LEGISLATIVE CAMPAIGNS --
AND THAT PERCEPTION OF
CORRUPTION IS ALREADY A VOTING
PUBLIC TRUST IN OUR GOVERNMENT
WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A ROAD IT
ANY FURTHER SO ONCE AGAIN WE
URGE YOU TO A POSSIBLE FAMOUS
RUSSIAN.
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
YOU CAN LINE UP.
GIVE ME JUST A SEC TO GET
SETTLED.
THANK YOU ARE.
OKAY I'VE TRENT LANE PRESIDENT
CALIFORNIA CLEAN MONEY CAMPAIGN
THANK YOU MEMBERS --
OF WE HAVE INCREDIBLE ADMIRATION
FOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER MULLIN HE
HAS TRULY BEEN A LEADER IN
TRANSPARENCY AND WE ARE
CONTINUING.
AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK BY HIS
SIDE ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA
DISCLOSE ACT AND OTHER BILLS.
WE RESPECT THAT THE THE
TRANSPARENCY ASPECTS OF IT BUT
THEY ARE WAY TOO MODEST FOR THE
INCREDIBLE CHANGE HERE.
THERE REALLY IS NOT ENOUGH
REFORM THERE REALLY IS NOT
ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK AT IT.
EVERY SINGLE ACTIVISTS WE TALKED
TO IT'S BEEN APPALLED HE WILL
TRY TO DESCRIBE IT FAIRLY SELF.
AND WE RESPECT THE URGES A A NO
VOTE AND WE CANCOME BACK LOOK
THESE ISSUES NEXT YEAR WHEN
THERE'S TIME THANK YOU GREAT
THANK YOU WRESTLING AND FROM
HERE ON OUT I'M GONNA ASK JUST
NAME WHERE YOU'RE FROM CLEAN
MONEY CAMPAIGN HADN'T HAD A
CHANCE TO SPEAK YET.
SO ONE INDULGE THAT BUT IF
THAT'S ALRIGHT MISTER ASHER.
I RYAN'S GONNA CATHERINE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY SENIOR VALLEY
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO AB AT THANK
MISCONDUCT.
EARLY STERLING EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE YELLOW COUNTY
CENTRAL COMMITTEE STRONGLY
OPPOSED TO A BT FOUR THANKS SO
MUCH.
IF YOU GUYS ROTATE THROUGH AFTER
YOU SPEAK IN THE NEOVIA LOOP
BACK AROUND THE ROOM
[inaudible]
YEAH.
THANK YOU ALL.
NUMBER SURE GOING TO HAVE THE
AMERICAN SICK PUBLIC AFFAIRS
SOCIUS I STRONGLY OPPOSE ALSO
WAS AN EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBER
THE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO
UNITE THE PARTY AGAINST THOSE
PEOPLE THAT ARE VOTING FOR THIS
BILL.
I FOUND A WAY THANK YOU.
LINDA DIAZ DAVIS CALIFORNIA
STRONGLY OPPOSE THANK YOU THANK
YOU SO MUCH.
HI MY NAME IS EVAN MAINTAIN THEM
WITH CALIFORNIA VOICES FOR
PROGRESS WERE OPPOSED IN LESS
AMENDED AT WE WOULDN'T REMOVE
OUR OPPOSITION AND LAST OF FOUR
AND THE FOUR POLITICAL PARTIES
SECTION FOR A STRIP FROM THE
BILL SECTION FOUR IS THE
CREATION OF THE FOUR POLITICAL
PARTIES.
THEY CAN THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS VAN RAINY WITH
LITTLE MORE INDIVISIBLE.
AND ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REMIND
YOU THAT WE ARE THE REAL
CITIZENS UNITED AGAINST THIS
BILL THANK.
BOB WORD WILL LOOK CREEK --
ROSS MORE DEMOCRATIC CLUB.
AND I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS
BILL THANK YOU SIR.
TREVOR MARTIN --
DISTRICT NINETEEN REFORM
DEMOCRAT SAN FRANCISCO TREASURER
OF THE SAN FRANCISCO BERNIE
KRATZ TREASURE OF SAN FRANCISCO
FOR DEMOCRACY AND FOUNDING
MEMBER OF SAN FRANCISCO
PROGRESSIVE ALLIANCE.
WE STAND INCOMPLETE OPPOSITION
TO AB EIGHTY FOUR THANK YOU.
CONNIE ANDERSONSACRAMENTO
FORMER MEMBER I HAVE CAL AT THE
ON CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY
IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY --
CENTRAL COMMITTEE SO PLEASE VOTE
NO THIS IS A CITIZENS UNITED
LIGHT WE BELIEVE WE CAN KEEP THE
GOOD PARTON DO WAY OFF THE MARK.
THANK YOU.
KIANA BLISS GRASSROOTS VOLUNTEER
COORDINATOR OF THE MOVE TO AMEND
COALITION I'M STRONG OPPOSITION
TO THIS BILL AND OUR MIND OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE --
THAT YOUR UP TWENTY EIGHTEEN
PLATFORM ON POLITICAL REFORM --
EXPRESSLY CALLED UPON YOU TO
OPPOSED THE CULTURE OF CRONYISM
AND CORRUPTION IN THIS BILL --
AND ALSO DEMAND EQUAL
OPPORTUNITY FOR INFLUENCE OF
SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF FULL
DISCLOSURE THEN ACCESSIBILITY
AND ACCOUNTABILITY AS WELL THANK.
NGUYEN DAVIDSON CALIFORNIA VOTER
FROM BERKELEY STRONGLY OPPOSED
TO THIS BILL THANK.
JOAN LECTURE MEN FROM OAKLAND UP
THE CW A NINE ONE ONE NINE WERE
TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THIS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NORMAL COLOR I'M WITH THE
CHICANO LATINO CAUCUS THE
CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND
WE ARE OPPOSED [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
GARY APPEL MILL VALLEY --
MILL VALLEY COMMUNITY ACTION
NETWORK WITH A THOUSAND MEMBERS
I'M OPPOSED --
S. B. OAKLAND.
A. B. EIGHTY FOUR THANKS.
FOR SUSAN PENNER EMERYVILLE
CALIFORNIA OPPOSED TO THE BILL
THANK MISTER.
PAULA WE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS
SACRAMENTO COUNTY OPPOSED.
SEAT YOU EVER LEGISLATIVE
COMMITTEE CHAIR PEACE AND
FREEDOM PARTY CALIFORNIA IN
FIGHTING NOW BAD LEGISLATION FOR
OVER FIFTY YEARS [inaudible]
THANKS WEBER.
ACKLAND DOOR SACRAMENTO OR JUROR
NO VOTE ON EIGHTY FOUR BILL
KNOCKS DAVIS CALIFORNIA READ
ABOUT THIS FIRST IN THE
SACRAMENT BEING ANGRY AND OPPOSE.
THANK YOU.
RALPH FINLEY SANTA CRUZ
MOUNTAINS REPRESENTING THREE
FIFTY DOT ORG.
ANY INCREASE IN LARGE DARK MONEY
DONATIONS WILL FEEL PUN INTENDED
OUR CURRENT CLIMATE CRISIS
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
LAURIE JUNE SACRAMENTO
CALIFORNIA STRONGLY URGE NO ON
EIGHTY FOUR TOOK THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
JOHN IRVING NAY COMMUNICATIONS
DIRECTOR FOR THE CALIFORNIA
DEMOCRATIC PARTY REITERATING
OFFICERS FORMAL SUPPORT
OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
MARK'S MUSKY VALLEY GLAND
STRONGLY OPPOSE.
THANK YOU SIR. TO NASA TELLIN
SURPRISING INDIVISIBLE STATE
STRONG FIFTY THOUSAND MEMBERS
INDIVISIBLE UP GROWTH AND AND
WESTERN PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS IN
VEHEMENT OPPOSITION [inaudible]
VERY MUCH.
TINA MCKENNA OPERATIONS DIRECTOR
FOR THE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC
PARTY AND MEMBER OF THE BLACK
WOMEN'S DEMOCRATIC CLUB.
OPPOSE THIS BILL.
MY DS THATTA CANDIDATE FOR THE
SIXTY THIRD ASSEMBLY DISTRICT
WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST
UNDERREPRESENTED DISTRICTS IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WHICH
HAS ALSO THE MOST --
ENVIRONMENTALLY HAZARDOUS
CONDITIONS IN THE STATE.
AND HAS OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE
CORPORATIONS REPRESENTED A IS
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO DISPEL.
I'D JUST LIKE SWELLED SAN MATTEO
A CO CHAIR OF THE PENINSULA
CHAPTER OF THE DEMOCRATIC
SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA AS AN
ORGANIZATION WE STRONGLY OPPOSE
ABA BEFORE THANK YOU THANKS.
LOU ANNA VILLANUEVA.
YOLO COUNTY.
PROGRESSIVES DEMOCRATIC CLUB
VERY OPPOSED TO THIS BILL.
MARY FILTH SHEA SAN FRANCISCO
VOTER REPRESENTATIVE OF CLEAN
MONEY STRONGLY OPPOSE THE BILL.
DOTTY NYGAARD SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY
DELEGATE FOR OUR CENTRAL
COMMITTEE ADAMANTLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THINKING.
MARGARETMARY FROM PINOLE I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
CARRY COREY STOCKTON ASSEMBLY
DISTRICT DELEGATE THIRTEEN
OPPOSE THIS BILL AS WELL AS THE
GREATER LODI AREA DEMOCRATS
OPPOSED.
VERY GOOD THANKS SO MUCH.
NOT DEPEND SONICS PROUD RESIDENT
OF OAKLAND I OPPOSE THIS BILL
BECAUSE IT WILL ONLY ADD TO MORE
CORPORATE BRIBERY.
THANK.
HELENA VAIL OAKLAND STRONGLY
OPPOSE [inaudible]
THANK.
DEBORAH MECKLER SOUTH SAN
FRANCISCO DARK MONEY DESTROYS
DEMOCRACY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
DONNA DE TOMAR REPRESENTING THE
ALBENA CAUCUS A GROUP OF VOTERS
FROM A ALAMEDA AND CONTRA COSTA
COUNTY.
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
YOU HAVE.
WELL MARY RYAN SAN FRANCISCO
VOLUNTEERS CALIFORNICA MONEY
CAN'T BUY.
RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU VOTE
NO.
CHRIS SALMON FROM BERKELEY
PLEASE VOTE NO.
GORDON MILLER WALMART CREEK
MONEY OUT PEOPLE AND COALITION
WERE VIGOROUSLY OPPOSED TO THIS
BILL.
AS A SOLUTION I CAN SAY THAT
THERE SAYS GUIDED A LOT OF WHAT
REMAINED OF MY FAITH IN THE
POLITICAL SYSTEM AND AMENDED IT
WITH A DEEP AND ABIDING DISTRUST
[inaudible]
PLEASE SUPPOSED.
IT ARE LINE OAKHURST CALIFORNIA
UNDER THE SMOKY SKIES --
ALSO REPRESENTING MY WIFE ARLENE
OKAY IN MY DAUGHTER WHO HOPES TO
VOTE IN JUNE.
SHE TURNS.
EIGHTEEN AND SYSTEM SHE CAN
BELIEVE AND I'M A DELEGATE TO
THE POOR --
EIGHTY FIVE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND
THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE MEMBER ASK
FOR YOUR OPPOSITION THANK YOU SO
MUCH THANK YOU.
PLEASE MAIL ANYTHING SAID
SACRAMENTO THANKING YOU ADVANCED
PROCESS SENDING US BACK TO THE
DRAWING BOARD [inaudible]
THANKS HI KAREN BACK FROM
DANVILLE PART OF MOVEON TYRONE
BAILEY DEMOCRATIC CLUB.
AND I REALLY HOPE YOU'LL VOTE
AGAINST US TRONG [inaudible]
THANK.
HI I'M MARY LYNTON FROM SAN
RAMON CALIFORNIA.
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
I THINK WE NEED BIG MONEY OUT OF
POLITICS DEMOCRACY.
BUT YES DEMOCRACY NO ON THIS
BILL TAKES MY S. TEACHER I KNOW
FROM SALINAS FROM SASS SAFE BAG
SAFE SCHOOLS.
A DERIVATIVE OF THE CALIFORNIA
FOR PESTICIDE REFORM ANDWE HOPE
TO HAVE THIS BILL DEFEATED
VACATION MUCH.
JIM HART PERENNIAL VOTER IN
SACRAMENTO HOPE YOU'LL DEFEAT
THIS BILL TODAY TAKE SOME.
DONNA POLISH A LOS ALTOS
CALIFORNIA CALIFORNIA CLEAN MANY
CAMPAIGN PLEASE OPPOSE THANK.
I AIR GOOD SO DEMOCRAT FROM
DAVIS CALIFORNIA ALSO
COMMISSIONER AND A FORMER
CANDIDATE FOR CITY COUNCIL FOR
THE CITY OF DAVIS I URGE YOU TO
VOTE NO AND I'M IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL THANK
YOU THANK.
I KAREN BERNAL --
CHAIR OF THE PERMITS THAT IF
CAUCUS OF THE STATE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY TO MY FELLOW DEMOCRATS.
THIS ONE SAY CAN'T BE SAID THAT
CITING WITH THE PEOPLE WHO
CONSTITUTE OUR BASE IS EVEN
REMOTELY POSSIBLE WHEN THE PARTY
METERS MAY.
MAKE CHOICES FOR WHO'S ON THE
TEAM BASED ON PAY TO PLAY PLEASE
VOTE NO.
I AMY CHAMP FROM AMADOR COUNTY I
AM A VICE CHAIR OF THE
CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY
RURAL CAUCUS.
AND A REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR FOR
ASSEMBLY DISTRICTS I OPPOSE ANY
BILL THAT.
WILL ALLOW.
FURTHER DOWN THE FOSSIL FUEL
INDUSTRY DUE TO THE CLIMATE
CRISIS THING [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
I'M JUDY BLACK COME FROM
SUNNYVALE I AM A CLEAN MONEY
SUPPORTER AND I AM A LEAGUE OF
WOMEN VOTERS MEMBER AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
[inaudible]
THANK.
ESTHER SISTAN FROM DAVIS
CALIFORNIA I'M A SUPPORTER OF
THE CLEAN MANY CAMPAIGN AND THAT
CALIFORNIA DISCLOSE ACT AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THAT AB EIGHTY
FOUR IN ITS CURRENT FORM THANK
YOU THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS RICHARD ROSE ARE FROM
SAN MATEO CALIFORNIA AND I'M
STRONGLY AGAINST THIS BILL THANK
YOU VERY.
DON CURRY FROM MENLO PARK.
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
THEY WERE HELD AROUND POLITICAL
DIRECTOR FOR WHILE SOME
PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS OF
SACRAMENTO WERE IN FIRM
OPPOSITION.
TAKES.
I'M MAILING STEPHAN FROM
SUNNYVALE PEACE BOAT NO THANK
YOU THANK YOU.
I'M JIM DAVIDSON FROM LOS ALTOS
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK YOU SIR.
KATHY FORTIS DAVIS CALIFORNIA
MONEY OUT DISCLOSURE IN PLEASE
VOTE DON'T PICK.
EMMY GREATEST FROM DAVIS TIME
CHAIR OF YOLO PROGRESSIVES HOW
DARE ANY DEMOCRAT VOTE FOR THIS
HEINOUS BILL OPPOSE.
I'M CHRISTOPHER LIST FROM SANDRA
FELT PLEASE OPPOSE.
I'M LORRAINE CAME FROM A RURAL
EL DORADO COUNTY AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THE BILL [inaudible]
THANKS.
MY NAME IS ALEX HOQUIAM FROM
SACRAMENTO CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE
THIS BILL --
AMY HINDSIGHT LEGISLATIVE AND
POLITICAL DIRECTOR FOR THE
UNIVERSITY PROFESSIONAL AND
TECHNICAL EMPLOYEES
COMMUNICATION WORKERS OF AMERICA
LOCAL NINE ONE ONE NINE IN
STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE BILL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MICHAEL CARSON MARTINEZ STRONGLY
OPPOSE A BE A FOR THANK YOU SIR.
LEN HUYDECOPER MENLO PARK A
SILICON VALLEY COURAGEOUS
RESISTANCE AND THE BAYSHORE
PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS A NEW
BERNIE CRACK CLUB WE WE OPPOSE
[inaudible]
THANK YOU.
STEVE ALLEN REDWOOD CITY OPPOSE.
JENNIFER HAY FROM SAN FRANCISCO
US SUPPORTER OF CLEAN MONEY
PLEASE VOTE NO THANK YOU.
BUSINESS HAD HER HOME FROM SAN
FRANCISCO PLEASE VOTE NO.
THANK YOU.
ALL CARS FROM MARTINEZ PLEASE
KILL THIS BILL TODAY.
SUSAN ARNETT FROM STOCKTON
CALIFORNIA OPPOSE THIS BILL.
THANK ME.
MARIA DE GROOT FROM LYNDON
CALIFORNIA RURAL.
A COUNTY LIBERAL CITY NEXT TO
STOCKTON CALIFORNIA.
OF MEN IMMIGRANT SUPPORT SINGLE
PAYER HEALTHCARE AND I POST THIS
BILL VERY STRONG BUT I THINK.
HI I'M A BIT KENNEDY I DROVE
HERE FROM MIDDLETOWN CALIFORNIA.
I'M A DEMOCRATIC PARTY DELEGATE
FOR ASSEMBLY DISTRICT.
FOR AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THING EACH YEAR.
CAR LOOKING KID YOSHI CALIFORNIA
SAN FRANCISCO MY DESCRIPTORS FOR
THIS BILL ARE.
A CORRUPTING POWER GRABBING AND
MISGUIDED PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS
BILL THANK.
MANY IN THE SUMMER STE ONE I'M
FROM SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA AND ON
BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AND MYSELF
PLEASE VOTE NO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME.
OKAY THANK YOU.
MY NAME'S DAVID SCHMIDT ARE FROM
SARAH CISCO AND A LONGTIME
VOLUNTEER WITH THE CALIFORNIA
CLEAN MONEY CAMPAIGN.
PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE BILL
THANKS.
DAVID CARRY FROM BELMONT
CALIFORNIA PLEASE NOTE WILL ON
THIS BILL WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO
A DEMOCRACY THANK YOU THANK YOU.
GREG SWAYNE FROM OAKLAND
CALIFORNIA STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK.
THOMAS O'BRIEN FROM SACRAMENTO
CALIFORNIA STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL [inaudible]
THANKS.
JOHN SCHMIDT MODESTO CALIFORNIA
OPPOSE THIS BILL [inaudible]
THANKS.
SHERRI FITZGERALD PLAY HOPE
CALIFORNIANS OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL [inaudible]
THANK YOU.
WHAT DO WE HAVE ANY OTHERS IN
OPPOSITION YEAH WE TICKET TIME
MA'AM THAT'S ALRIGHT
[inaudible]
I THINK.
DISH.
HAVE [inaudible]
HI.
I'M CAROLE PENSON --
I'M FROM MARTINEZ CALIFORNIA
MEMBER OF MOVED TO MAN AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE A. B..
EIGHTY FOUR THANK YOU MA'AM.
NANCY NOW FROM PALO ALTO OF
VOLUNTEER WITH CLEAN MONEY
CAMPAIGN SINCE.
TWO THOUSAND SIX OPPOSE THE BILL
THANK.
CRAIG DUNKERLEY SAN JOSE
CALIFORNIA.
A LONGTIME VOLUNTEER WITH
CALIFORNIA CLEAN MANY CAMPAIGN
ALSO SERVE ON THE SANTA CLARA
COUNTY.
CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMISSION ON
ELECTIONS HOW STRONGLY OPPOSE
THE BILL WE CAN DO BETTER.
THANK YOU CREDIT THANK YOU FOR
AN ORDERLY PROCESS EVERYONE --
FOR WEIGHING IN IN MAKING THE
TRIP WE DO APPRECIATE THE INPUT --
I WILL BRING IT BACK NOW TO THE
DYESS.
AND THOSE YOU WERE HERE AT THE
OUTSET WE HAD COMMON CAUSE ONLY
WOMEN VOTERS ALSO IF YOU IF YOU
HAVE QUESTIONS. FOR THEM BUT
MEMBERS QUESTIONS COMMENTS
[inaudible]
GOOD.
I CENTER HERTZBERG.
WE TAKEN NOTES LISTENING TO ALL
OF THE ARGUMENTS I JUST WANT TO
PURPOSES BY THE FACT THAT.
JOINT AUTHORED PROPOSITION.
THIRTY FOUR CREATED THIS PROCESS.
AND JUST GIVE LITTLE CONTEXT IF
IT'S APPROPRIATE ON BOTH
PERSONALLY AND BOMB [inaudible]
STATUTORILY CONSTITUTIONALLY IN
CALIFORNIA --
THERE WAS THIS THERE WAS IN
NINETEEN NINETY SIX PROPOSITION
UP TO EIGHT THAT LIMITED
CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WAS A SUPREME
COURT CASE IN DECEMBER OF THAT
YEAR.
THEIR WAS A SERIES OF
INITIATIVES BACK AND FORTH AND
AND ULTIMATELY.
PROPERTY FOR IT WAS INFORMED BY
THE SHRINK MISSOURI CASE.
WHERE ARE THE ISSUE WASN'T SO
MUCH ABOUT DISCLOSURE BUT THE
ISSUE IS ABOUT CONTRIBUTIONS --
AT IT WHATEVER THE LEVELS WITH
THE CONTRIBUTIONS SENATOR BURTON
I JOINT AUTHORED THIS
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT VOTERS
APPROVED [inaudible]
ON TO SET A LIMIT THAT WAS
CONSISTENT WITH THE COST OF
LIVING IN CALIFORNIA MARRYING
AGAINST SHRINK MISSOURI CASE.
AND I JUST WANTED JUST BEFORE
ASSN QUESTIONS CRITICAL NOTES
ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCLUSIONS
THAT PEOPLE GAVE WITH RESPECT TO
THIS MATTER.
YOU KNOW I I JUST ANT YOU KNOW
TO THOSE WHO WERE IN THE
AUDIENCE BY CAMEL WHAT YEAR IT
WAS.
PROP SIXTY EIGHT I DON'T KNOW
WHAT YEAR THAT WAS IN THE COMMON
CAUSE LISA FOSTER --
YOU KNOW PARTIAL PUBLIC
FINANCING WITH COMMON CAUSE PROP --
AT ONE THIRTY ONE WHERE THE
AUTHOR WITH THE AUTHOR OF THE
FAIR PICKLE PRICES COMMISSION
WAS OUR TREASURE.
BOB STERN.
PHONE THE HE SIX EXTRAORDINARY
EFFORTS TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THIS
ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY.
AND TO ME WHEN I ANALYZE THIS
AND I LISTEN I THINK. FIVE OR
SIX PAGES OF NOTES OF WHAT
PEOPLE TESTIFIED TO TRY TO FIND
COMMON THEMES.
SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN IN AT THE
OTHER END OF THIS STUFF OF MY
OWN PARTY AND REDISTRICTING LIE
SIDE WITH COMMON CAUSE MY PARTY
WAS MAD AT ME AND STUFF.
BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS THE
RIGHT THING TO DO.
I LOOK AT THIS ISSUE AND I WANT
TO FIRST EXAMINE THE NOTION OF
TRANSPARENCY.
BECAUSE AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW
I SERVED LEADERSHIP POSITION A
COUPLE OF DECADES AGO.
AND I KNOW WHAT THE OLD RULES
LOOK LIKE.
AND I ALSO KNOW HOW THE PROCESS
WORKS IN TERMS OF HOW MONEY
WORKS IN THE SYSTEM AND WHETHER
GO TO THE PARTY AND SO I MY
SENSE OF THIS ISSUE AS I
DIAGNOSIS.
USERS TO SEPARATE [inaudible]
WE ISSUES NOW ONE ISSUE IS IS TO
MAKE SURE THAT.
BOTTOM ANY CONTRIBUTION THAT IS
GIVEN AT ALL.
IT IS LIMITED I'M ITS EXPERT IS
IS TRANSPARENT.
IS TRANSPARENT AND IS
TRANSPARENT AND THAT EVERYBODY
UNDERSTANDS WITH US BECAUSE
WHO'S MAKING THE CONTRA. FOR
WHAT PURPOSE YOU MORE IS AGO.
AND CERTAINLY IN MY JUDGMENT I
KNOW I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS
WITH SOME OF THE ADVOCATES WHO
HAVE BEEN TALKING TO AND WORK
WITH FOR MANY MANY YEARS.
I I'D BUT I KNOW PEOPLE USE THE
TERM DARK MONEY AND CORRUPTION
AND THE LIKE.
THE CORRUPTION CONCEPT TO ME
COMES INTO DOT TO FIT INTO SOME
PARTS ONE IS OBVIOUSLY.
BAR HOW MUCH MONEY PEOPLE CAN
GIVE IS A LIMITATION ON WHAT HOW
MUCH MONEY CAN GIVE SO THAT SOME
WAS ON BUDDIES BIG CHECKS WE
COULD DRIVE A TRUCK THROUGH NOW
WITH THESE INDEPENDENT
EXPENDITURE COMMITTEE WHICH IS
NOW INFORMED OUR POLITICAL
PROCESS SINCE.
WITH THE CASE.
TING COURT CASE CITIZENS UNITED
HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS
MAKING SURE WE KNOW IMMEDIATELY
WHO GAVE THE MONEY.
AND AND WHAT THEY GAVE IT.
TO POLITICIANS GETTING MONEY IS
ALWAYS A PROBLEM ANYTIME ANYBODY
WRITES A CHECK SOMEBODY FROM THE
ANY SOURCE IT'S ALWAYS QUESTION.
AS TO WHAT THE MOTIVATION IS AND
I THINK KIND OF THE LARGER
DYNAMIC OF WHAT THE THE
LITERATURE HAS AND WHAT THE BEST
THINKERS HAVE IS.
DISCLOSURE DISCLOSURE DISCLOSURE
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT --
CREATING THESE COMMITTEES YOU'VE
GOT DISCLOSURE DISCLOSURE
DISCLOSURE --
IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
PA AND I DO THINK IT DOES CREATE
A LARGER DYNAMIC THAT CAME FROM
PROP.
THIRTY FOUR ABOUT PARTIES AND
WHAT THAT MEANS.
BUT IT MAKES MY HEART SING THAT
A RELEASE COMING TOGETHER IN THE
PARTY BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE THIS
UNITY EIGHT WHAT WE WHAT AHEAD
TOGETHER AT LEAST THIS TO MY
LIMITED INTEREST IN POLITICS
THAT'S HOWEVER MAKE A COUPLE
COMMENTS I'M GLAD ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE THE PUBLIC SOME
QUESTIONS THAT I HAD IN THE
PARTY AND YOU KNOW THE THE ISSUE
OF DETRACTING FROM LONG TERM
ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO.
JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU PARTY%
VICE CHAIR ABOUT THAT ISSUE
BECAUSE SINCE WE PASS THIS AND
YOU MARRY THIS WE NOW HAVE THE
OPEN PRIMARY THE SCHWARZENEGGER
PUT ON THE IN THE SYSTEM.
AND THAT SH HOPING PRIMARY WE
SAW IN THE GOVERNOR'S RACE HAD
IMPACT LOOKING DIFFERENTLY WE
SEE OTHER RACES.
MY THOUGHT IS THAT TRYING TO GET
A ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE
CONSISTENT WITH THE VALUES OF
THE MAJORITY OF THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY. TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH
THIS IMPACT BECAUSE WE FELT IT
RIGHT WE FELT IT IN TERMS OF
WHAT WE COULD OR COULDN'T DO.
AND TRYING TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO
WE CARE ABOUT AND LOVE TO HEAR A
GOOD COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS FOR
YOU BUT LIKE TO YOUR COMMENTS.
WITH RESPECT TO THE NOTION OF
THE OPEN PRIMARY COULD YOU
CERTAINLY SAW OUR DEMOCRATIC
NOMINEE [inaudible]
A WORK IN THE IN THAT AREA AND
AND AND AND HOW THAT WORKS AND
WHAT SUITS YOUR THOUGHTS WERE IN
THAT REGARD.
YEAH THANK YOU SENATOR HERTZBERG
AND YES OBVIOUSLY TOP TWO HAS
BEEN --
QUITE A THE BOOMERANG FOR US TO
TRY TO FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW HOW.
TO STAY A COHERENT PARTY A SAY
THE GUESTBOOK PARTY DID THE
REPUBLICANS HAVEA PARTY WOULD
TO DEMOCRATS CAME IN TOP WHAT
WOULD HAVE NORMALLY BEEN
REPUBLICAN INDUSTRY SOME BACK
AND FORTH ALL OVER YEAH AND MY
UNDERSTANDING IS AND I MEAN IN
TERMS OF WHERE THE PARTIES ARE
AT AND I DON'T.
I I WILL CONFESS THAT I DON'T
SPEND I'M IN THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS
THAT IT THAT THAT THEY DON'T
LIKE IT EITHER --
AND ARE HAPPY WITH THE CURRENT
SYSTEM BUT THE VOTERS APPROVED
TOP TWO AYE IT'S THE CITIZENS
SITUATION WE HAVE AND SO WE HAVE
TO LEARN HOW TO OPERATE WITHIN
IT.
AND SO WE HAVE BEEN BEEN VERY
VERY CLOSE BY YOU KNOW
NEGOTIATION AND DISCUSSION WITH
OUR ALLIES AND THE DEMOCRAT
SENATE DEMOCRATS --
TO THE ASSEMBLY DEMOCRATS AND
ALSO WITH WITH --
OUR FOLKS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL
WORKING ON COMMERCIAL CAMPAIGNS.
THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR
PARTY DEMOCRACY EVEN IN A TOP TO
A SITUATION THAT WOULD HAPPEN
WHAT I MEAN IS THAT WE HAVE TO
HAVE.
A PARTICIPATORY PROCESS FOR
DECIDING WHO THE DEMORATIC
ENDORSED CANDIDATE US.
THAT WE WE CAN'T HAVE THAT TOP
TWO CAN'T BE AN EXCUSE FOR US TO
JUST THROW UP OUR HANDS AND
MOVED TO THE D. TRIPLE C. MODEL
OF JUST SAYING THAT YOU KNOW
VOTE FOR WHOEVER RAISES THE MOST
MONEY.
VIC THE CAUCUS PROFESSIONALS
WILL DECIDE THAT THAT'S WHO THE
CANDIDATE IS IN THE BACK TO THE
CANDIDATE WILL BE.
THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN --
I ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR GRASSROOTS
ACTIVISTS TO GIVE THEM A SAY
EVEN A TOP TWO SITUATION OF WHO
THEY THINK THE BEST CANADA'S
WEIGHING VIABILITY AND PRINCIPLE
AND AND BACKGROUND ET CETERA --
FOUR CAMPAIGN WE ALSO AS I
ALLUDED TO IN MY IN MY COMMENTS
WE ALSO MOVED IN ENGAGED IN A
MAJOR INTERNAL REFORM --
IN CLOSE COOPERATION WITH SENATE
DEMOCRATS ASSEMBLY DEMOCRATS IT
CHANGED OUR ENDORSEMENT PROCESS
THAT GAVE THE LEADERSHIP LEADERS
ARE PARTY LEADERS IN THE
LEGISLATURE --
EXTRA DELEGATES IN ORDER TO WAY
N. EXACTLY IN THOSE RACES WHERE
MAYBE THE GRASSROOTS ARE SPLIT
BUT WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE
WE GOING TO TALK TO WITH IT LIKE
BEHIND A SINGLE CANDIDATE.
SO WE'RE NOT SPLITTING THE VOTE
AND HANDING ELECTIONS TO OUR
OPPONENTS ON JUST WITH AN OWN
GOAL RIGHT SO I'M SO WE GAVE
THOSE DELEGATES TO THE
LEADERSHIP PRECISELY SO THAT
THEY COULD.
WEIGH AND SAY LOOK THIS IS A
TARGETED RACE. TO GET BEHIND
THIS CANDIDATE UP BECAUSE WE ARE
A A OF PARTNERSHIP.
THAT AND OUR CORE AS AN
ORGANIZATION WHERE PARTNERSHIP
BETWEEN --
DEMOCRATS IN OFFICE AND
DEMOCRATS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY
IN THE STREETS IS THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY AND THINK ABOUT THIS TO
JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION.
IS THE DEMOCRATIC ELECTED
OFFICIAL SOMEONE WHO GETS
ELECTED AS A DEMOCRAT
DESIGNATING TO THE PUBLIC.
DE TELLING THE PUBLIC THAT I'M A
DEMOCRAT. FOR IS THE DEMOCRAT
OFFICIAL THE PERSON WHO SUPPORT
WHO WHO'S INDOORS FOR THE PARTY.
RIGHT WHEN YOU REPEAT THE
QUESTION WILL BE COULD THINK
ABOUT THIS I KNOW IN IN IN IT
FOR EXAMPLE BETWEEN BOTH HOUSES
IN BOTH PARTIES HERE OF
LEGISLATORS THAT HAVE SERVED.
IN BOTH THE DISEASE AND THE OURS
IS NO INDEPENDENCE NOW THAT
WE'RE NOT ENDORSED BY THE
RESPECTIVE PARTIES.
BUT THEY GOT ENDORSED BUT THEY
GOT ENDORSED BY WINNING.
AS REPRESENTING TO THE PUBLIC.
WHO REGISTERED AS A MEMBER OF
THE PARTY COMMUTERS ACTIVISTS TO
A PARTY WHO SAY I'M GONNA TAKE
THE TIME TO WALK PRECINCTS AND
DO THE HOMEWORK?
AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE ELECTED.
THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WHO FOR
WHATEVER REASON IDENTIFYWITH
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS IN
THEIR CORE VALUES.
THEY SIGN UP AND SAY I'M A
MEMBER OF THE RESPECTIVE PARTY.
THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE THEY'RE
NOT ACTIVISTS THEY DON'T GO TO
THE CONVENTION BUT THEY VOTE.
SO WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE THIS
IS KIND OF ONE OF THAT GUY GETS
THE NUB OF WHAT THE ISSUE IS
HERE.
WHEN WE HAVE MEMBERS OF BOTH
PARTIES WHO WERE OPPOSED BY
THEIR OWN PARTY?
BECAUSE THERE WERE CERTAIN
FACTIONS WITHIN THE RESPECTIVE
PARTIES THAT THAT THEY WON'T
SUPPORT IT.
BUT WHEN THEY PRESENTED
THEMSELVES TO THE VOTERS.
THE VOTERS OF THAT PARTY ELECTED
THEM.
YOU CAN LOOK AT SOMEBODY DEVOTE
ELECTED THEM REGULARLY.
ONE EXCEPT IT ME AGAIN AS YOU
MENTIONED WITH TOP TWO THAT
CHANGES IT.
NO T WAS ONE THING WHEN WE HAD
A PARTY PRIMARY AND WE COULD SAY
LOOK WE'LL FIGHT IT OUT THERE IS
THE PRIMARY ONE DEMOCRAT EMERGES
TO THE GENERAL AND THEN WE UNITE
BEHIND THAT PERSON.
WITH TOP TWO YOU CAN AS A BEACON
RUN AS A DEMOCRAT IN THE FIRST
ROUND BUT TOTALLY APPEAL TO
REPUBLICAN I GOT THAT BUT FOR US
IT I THINK IT UP IT DOESN'T THE
PERSON.
WHO CHOOSES TO REGISTER AS A
PARTY PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY VOTE
HAVE A VOICE GOT UP SO EARLY?
OKAY SO IF THEY HAVE A VOICE I
AGAIN ON MONTH BY MONTH AND JUST
THINKING ABOUT IT THIS IS A
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IS GIVEN
TAKE THAT WE ASK OURSELVES.
THE TOUGH QUESTIONS IF THEY HAVE
A VOICE I KNOW OF A COUPLE OF
MEMBERS WHO HAD MORE INDOORS
BECAUSE THEY GOT THE BEEF WITH
CERTAIN ELEMENT OF ONE PARTY AND
CERTAINLY ONE OF THE WHAT THE
OTHER PARTY.
BUT THEY REALLY DID WRONG ON
CORE VALUES OF THAT PARTICULAR
PARTY AND THE VOTERS IN THE
DISTRICT CHOSE THEM TO REPRESENT
THEM FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES.
AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO
IS DOESN'T THAT MEAN ANYTHING
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS HERE THE
REAL PRACTICAL REALITY THAT I'VE
EXPERIENCED OVER DECADES.
IS THAT A SOMEBODY WILL GET
ELECTED.
ARE ON NOT ENDORSED BY THEIR
PARTY.
IN BODY ON A VOTE CARD THE CORE
VALUES OF RESPECTIVE PARTIES
ABOUT ONE OUT SOMEPLACE ELSE
THEY REPRESENT EITHER PARTY
THEIR SAME CORE VALUES.
BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY
DON'T HAVE A POOR RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE VOTERS AT THE PARTY
LEVEL BUT THEY ARE ABLE TO
PERSUADE THE PARTY MEMBERS IN
THEIR DISTRICT.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS.
DOESN'T LEADERSHIP HAVE A RIGHT
TO SUPPORT THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE
THEY ELECTED BY THEIR BY THEIR
PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT.
I MEAN IF IF LEADERSHIP COMES
ALONG AND SAYS I WANT TO HELP
YOU GET REELECTED U. ENDORSED BY
THE PARTY IN THE PARTY WON'T
CONTINUE TO RE AND WE WISH YOU
CAN'T CAN'T LEADERSHIP SAY.
YOU REPRESENT CORE VALUES AND WE
THINK THAT THAT'S A RIGHT THING
TO DO DON'T FORGET EVERY EVERY
PERSON IN THIS BODY WHEN YOU
TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY
[inaudible]
YOU KNOW.
EVERYONE OF US WERE ELECTED.
WE ALL THAT 50% PLUS ONE TO GET
ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE AND
ULTIMATELY DEMOCRACY IS INFORMED
BY THE PEOPLE AND WE ALL GOT
ELECTED.
EACH OF THEIR COUNTERBALANCE
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF
THE EFFORTS THAT WERE ENGAGED IN
AND HOW WE CHARGED HARMONIZE
ISN'T A FACTOR.
AGAIN I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT UNTIL
I JUST LISTEN TO YOUR ANSWERS
ARE NOT.
JUST TRYING TO ENGAGE YOU TO AN
HONEST DISCUSSION ISN'T IT
SHOULD NOT BE A HUGE FACTOR IN
DETERMINING.
WHAT WE'RE RESOURCES GO
ABSOLUTELY IT'S A HUGE FACTOR
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE GAVE
THE -- CAN
CDVA LEGISLATIVE LEADERS EXTRA
DELEGATES AN EXTRA SAY IN WHO
ARE CAMPAIGNS ARE BECAUSE OF
COURSE WE RESPECT YOUR
PERSPECTIVE OR THE PERSPECTIVE
OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
ON WHO WOULD MAKE GOOD
COLLEAGUES BUT THAT PERSON WHAT
EIGHTY EIGHTY FOUR DOES IS ALLOW
A TOTAL AND RUN AROUND INSTEAD
OF HAVING TO COME TO THE PARTY
AND MAKE THE CASE FOR YOUR FOR
CANDIDATES.
THAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING EVEN WITH
EXTRA VOTES --
IT ALLOWS THAT THE LEGISLATIVE
LEADERS TO JUST COMPLETELY
BYPASS IT NO ONE SHOULD HAVE A
MONOPOLY ON POWER IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY ESPECIALLY OUR
PARTY.
FUND GRASSROOTS SHOULD NOT BE
ABLE TO COMPLETELY --
FAUVER RIHT THE OPINION OF THE
PEOPLE WHO WE WE TRUST AND WE
ELECT TO MAKE --
COMPROMISES AND AND CRAFT LAW ON
OUR BEHALF AT THE SAME TIME
LEADERSHIP SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
SAY HEY WE JUST DON'T AGREE WITH
THE PARTY ON THIS ONE SO WE'RE
GOING TO GO TO LOAN.
AND SHEEP THE ENTIRE CAMPAIGN
FINANCE SYSTEM TO ALLOW THEM TO
DO THAT BUT THEY'RE REALLY DOING
THAT BUT I COME FROM THE SHIP IN
A VALLEY ALSO SOME HERE FROM THE
VALLEY GLENN.
BUT WE HAVE TO DIPS OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF SAN FRAN
ABOUT STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BUT
WHO STRONGLY PUT IT ON MY
QUESTION.
YOU RAISED HEARING YOUR
TESTIMONY IF YOU TALKED ABOUT
THE POLITICAL PARTIES HAVE TO
CONTROL THIS THE POLITICAL
COMMITTEES WE SHOULDN'T HAVE
ANYBODY WHO IS YOUR BILL TO
RAISE MONEY WITH THE NAME
DEMOCRATIC PARTY OR SANCTIONED
BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOW I
KNOW THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S
LITIGATED AGAINST IPS OF CLUB.
DEAL WITH THIS FOR MANY YEARS
THEY DON'T LIKE THEM TO HAVE THE
NAME DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S CENTRAL
VALLEY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S
SANFORD ABOUT LEE HAS.
ONE AND SO THIS IS AN ISSUE
AGAIN AND JUST USES EXAMPLE
POSITION BUT THE HEART OF MY
BACKYARD OF PEOPLE I CARE ABOUT
DEEPLY.
AND ARM THIS IS A WHOLE THING OF
THE YOU CAN'T USE THE PARTY NAME
I MEAN THE TECH THE TEST IS.
LEGISLATORS RAISE MONEY TO
SUPPORT THEMSELVES TO SUPPORT
THEIR FRIENDS TO SUPPORT CAUSES
TO SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
IS TO ALL OF THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE
THEY DO THAT.
THE QUESTION HERE IN THIS BILL.
TO ME HE IS WHETHER OR NOT.
BY THE WAY GOING BACK TO WHAT
THE STATUS QUO WAS BECAUSE THE
ONLY REASON THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
GETS ALL THE CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTIONS.
FROM DELIVERS THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY OF IT IN MY SAID DON'T
REPUBLICANS I DO THINK THEY HAVE
A SEPARATE OFFICE OPERATION.
GETS THE CONTRIBUTIONS JUST
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HIGHER LIMIT.
SO SOME OF LEGISLATOR OR
REPRESENTATIVE GOES TO SOMEBODY
AND SAYS LOOK IN ADDITION TO
SUPPORTING ME CAN YOU HELP THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE WE WANT
MONEY IT'S GOOD BECAUSE OF THE
NAME IT'S GOOD BECAUSE THE FRANK
THE PRANK YOUR PRIVILEGES OF
SEVEN NINE CENTS LESS ONS
POSTAGE.
AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
BUT BUT IT'S A TOOL THAT
LEADERSHIP USES THERE'S NO
SECRET ABOUT THAT TO HELP
SUPPORT THE ISSUES THAT MATTER.
A GETTING PEOPLE ELECTED HELPING
IN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT'S
THAT'S ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND SO THE QUESTION BECOMES.
THE TOOL THAT HAS BEEN USED
SINCE THE INCEPTION BEFORE PROP
NINE WHEN WE HAD TRUST BECAUSE
WE JUST ON ROUTE SPEAKER.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE MADE ALL
OF THIS PROGRESS AND THEN WE
MADE A DECISION WAS IT YOURS AT
TWO THOUSAND WAS.
HELEN WHAT WE ARE TO PROPERTY
FORCE TWO THOUSAND WHATEVER IT
WAS.
PICK BECAUSE OF THE SHRINK
MISSOURI CASE TO COME UP WITH
THIS TOOL AND ARE TOWARDS THE
CHAIR OF OUR PARTY.
AND AND IT'S OKAY FIND THIS A
TOOL TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW.
THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP
DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS CANDIDATES TO
RAISE MONEY IN THE PARTY TO HELP
OKAY SO.
THE ISSUES IT'S NEVER NOT BEEN
THERE THE ISSUE IS IT'S
REVERTING BACK TO WAY TO CREATE
A MECHANISM.
AND THAT MECHANISM A GUY DON'T
KNOW YOU KNOW THIS IS BUT A
REALLY TOUGH ISSUE FOR ME I
GRAPPLE WITH THIS THING HAVE
SPENT. THIRTY YEARS OF MY LIFE
WORKING IN THIS FIELD MEASURE
EACH IN LA.
WITHIN THIS FIELD BUT I I'VE
LEARNED A LOT IN THIS PROCESS
ABOUT.
YOU KNOW KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE
WHAT WHAT REALLY GOES ON MAY
HAVE TO SPEND SEVENTY FIVE TO
EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS YEAR
IN COMPLIANCE AFTER SETTING THE
YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE.
JUST TO FILL OUT ALL THE FORMS
YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN AUDITOR WHO
AUDITS MYAUDITOR BECAUSE THEY
MAKE MISTAKES AND I'M SCARED TO
DEATH.
THAT'LL HELP MAKE A MISTAKE ILL
DEFINED.
IT'S UNBELIEVABLE HOW MUCH SO
HOPEFUL THAT COMPLIANCE EIGHT
SOMEONE MENTIONED IN COMPLIANCE
COSTS WHICH IS AN ISSUE.
SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE
TRYING.
TO VERBAL HERE IN GOVERNMENT
WHAT'S THE HARM.
DOES NO QUESTION THE LATENESS OF
THIS IS AN ISSUE.
THE ISSUES OF PEOPLE MADE THOSE
ARE ALWAYS A CHALLENGE THERE'S
NO QUESTION WE PUT THE SEVENTY
TWO HOUR RULE IN PLACE.
NO QUESTION IT'S A COMPELLING
ARGUMENT.
A SENSITIVE ISSUE PERSONAL
QUESTION THAT THE IMPACT IT'S
HAD ON LEAST ON WITH ITS OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY WOULD HERE IN A
MINUTE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
IT'S BEEN SOMEWHAT CHALLENGING
AND OR UNITED.
I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE CORE OF
THIS.
ABOUT WHAT REALLY IS GOING ON
BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT THE
TRANSPARENCY THING THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY UNLESS THE MY WRONG SHE
CHAIRMAN THE MONEY CONTRIBUTION
THAT'S BEING MADE TO A
LEADERSHIP COMMITTEE APART
WHATEVER THE IS THE SAME AMOUNT
THAT YOU MAKE TO THE PARTY.
IT'S NOT AS IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO
GIVE MONEY AND A BUNCH MORE DARK
MONEY COMES IN I GUESS THE
ARGUMENT IS THAT YOU GIVE TO
BOTH.
SO MAYBE YOU SAY OKAY FINE IF.
ONE RIGHT YOU CAN GO TO BOTH BUT
WHICH HAPPENS IN THE PARTY IS
THE GIVEN TOPIC THEY GIVE ALL
THE COUNTY COMMITTEES NOT JUST
WHAT HAPPENS GO TO AUDIT THE
WHOLE PROCEDURE.
I DON'T MUCH SO SURE WHAT YOU'RE
REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE
BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING IS A
DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PEOPLE.
THESE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED
PEOPLE OF BOTH PARTIES ARE
GRAZING MONEY.
THEY'RE PUTTING MONEY INTO
TRANSPARENT TOOL.
THE TRANSPARENT TOOL BE EVEN ONE
FORMER ANOTHER ARE PUTTING INTO
TRANSPARENT TOOL I DON'T SEE
THAT PICTURE LIMIT THEM MAKE
LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY PEOPLE
CAN GIVE I'M ALL FOR THAT.
BODY WHATEVER.
BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT WHETHER THE
LEADERSHIP CAN DO WHAT AND THE
LEADERSHIP ISN'T SOME NON
ELECTED PEOPLE.
LEADERSHIP A THEMSELVES GOT
ELECTED AND BE ELECTED BY EVERY
BUT ALL THEIR PEOPLE ARE ELECTED.
IN THE DITTMAR PARTIES WERE SELF
SELECTING.
I WENT VOLUNTEERS YOUNG TEENAGER
AND HELPED IN CAMPAIGNS AND WE
CAN SOLVE SELECTING I'VE BEEN
WHAT THE THIRTY DEMOCRATIC
CONVENTION SELF SELECTING PAID
FOR IT MYSELF [inaudible]
RIGHT [inaudible]
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
IS EVERYBODY REPUBLICAN PARTY IS
EVERYBODY.
SO.
MY THERAPY THIS IS A TOUGH ISSUE --
YOU KNOW IN THE END FARM CALL IT
THE REPUBLICANS GO ON ABOUT THIS
BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS DARK
MONEY.
BUT BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S START
MONEY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S
DISCLOSURE BUT I DO I DO THINK
THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF
PEOPLE SINGULAR QUESTIONS.
A LOT OF CHALLENGES AND ALSO ON
A PERSONAL LEVEL YOU KNOW A GOT
A BILLION TELEPHONE CALLS ON
THIS THING FOR PEOPLE I CARE A
LOT ABOUT.
AND PEOPLE'S OPINION I RESPECT A
LOT BITE.
ME THIS IS NOT THIS IS TOUGH
BECAUSE IT'S EACH IT'S EASY TO
BEAT UP A BILL AGAINST SOMEBODY
WHO WHO SHARE OUR OPPONENTS.
IT'S HARD WHEN YOUR FRIENDS.
PHONE WHO YOU KNOW PIKE I STAND
UP WHAT SHE CALLS YOU KNOW WHEN
SHE CALLS ME I LISTEN SO IT'S A
BECAUSE THESE GUYS HAVE GREAT.
GREAT TRACK RECORDS OF DOING
GREAT THINGS SO I SORT OF GO ON
SO LONG I WANTED TO COME TO
FRAME A LITTLE BIT BUT I I JUST
THINK THAT.
THE ONE PIECE YOU'RE MISSING IN
THIS.
IS THAT THE PUBLIC IS ENGAGED
THE PUBLIC DOES MAKE DECISIONS
POLITICIANS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT THEY ASK
ANYBODY FOR FOR WHATEVER PURPOSE.
EVEN IF IT'S RAISING MONEY IN
THE PAST IN CONTEXT WE'VE BEEN
WORKING ON THIS ISSUE FOR TWENTY
FIVE THIRTY YEARS.
SO I AYE JOURNALISM DEAR THANK
YOU SAILOR FROZE PERSONA ONCE OR
NOT IT WAS HEALTH FOR THE FREE
ME ISSUES AND YOU KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER MEMBERS
HAVE QUESTIONS I DIDN'T WANT TO
GIVE THE AUTHORS CHANCE ALSO TO
ENGAGE HERE I CAN I JUST MAKE
ONE POINT A FACT THOUGH THAT WAS
BROUGHT.
UP THROUGH THE JUST JUST TO MAKE
TO BE CLEAR IT IF IN THE GENERAL
ELECTION THERE IS ONE DEMOCRAT
AND ONE REPUBLICAN OR ONE NON
DEMOCRAT.
IN THE GENERAL ELECTION BY OUR
PARTY RULES WE AUTOMATICALLY
ENDORSE THE DEMOCRAT.
BUT IF IT IS IN FACT TRUE THAT
LIKE SOMEONE RAN WAS NOT
ENDORSED BY US IN THE FIRST
ROUD.
BUT SOME BUT THE VOTERS LIKE
SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY GOT
THROUGH INTO THE ONLY DEMOCRAT
THAT THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY ARE
ENDORSED CANDIDATE AND WE WOULD
COOPERATE WITH THEIR CAMPAIGN TO
GET THEM ELECTED.
GREAT.
FUN CENTER WOULD YOU MIND IF I
AS A TOPIC.
CHERISHED THROWN.
THROUGH THE CHAIR HAD TARIFFS
SURE MISTER I DON'T THINK YOU
SHOULD PLEASE.
I THINK YOU RAISE AN EXCELLENT
POINT WHICH IS BRING UP THE IDEA
WILL MAYBE TO ENSURE THERE'S NO
ACTUAL INCREASE MONEY MAYBE IT
SHOULD BE KEPT DONATIONS TO THE
PARTY.
OR LET'S OF CAUCUS MANY THING
THAT SOME.
THE BILL SHOULD REALLY THINK
TAKING PLACE NEXT YEAR WHEN
THERE'S TIME TO DISCUSSES TOUCH
POSSIBILITIES.
COULD ALSO MENTION THAT THE MAIN
THRUST OF THIS WHY THIS IS
IMPORTANT IS DISCLOSURE.
WELL IF IT REALLY THE MAIN GOAL
WAS DISCLOSURE THERE'S ACTUALLY
BETTER WAYS THAT WE CAN
ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL WITHOUT
EVEN CREATING FOUR NEW POLITICAL
PARTIES WE COULD SIMPLY REQUIRE.
ANY BUT HASN'T CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTION OVER A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF WOULD HAVE TO BE
REPORT AND THEN YOU'D ACTUALLY
GET BETTER DISCLOSURE BECAUSE
CURRENTLY IF LEADERSHIP.
CONTINUES TO MAKE REQUESTS OF
PEOPLE TO GIVE MONEY TO THE
PARTY BECAUSE OF MAX OUT THEIR
LIPS OF CAUCUS THAT STILL WON'T
BE DISCLOSED UNDER THIS BILL.
AND IF OTHER PEOPLE OTHER THAN
LEADERSHIP MAKE THOSE REQUESTS
THAT WON'T BE DISCLOSED UNDER
THIS BILL TOO SO ALL THAT TO SAY.
I THINK THEY'RE MORE ISSUES THAT
COULD BE DISCUSSED IF WE HAD
MORE TIME WHICH IS PART THE
REASON WHY WE THINK THE SHUTTLE
HAD.
THANK YOU MISTER I DON'T --
MEMBERS THE PART AS I READ THAT
I'D LIKE TO HUMILITY AUTHOR
ACCELERATE THE STRETCHER.
SURE SOME EVER DID YOU AND JUST.
WHY CAN COMPREHEND A CITY JUST
ON THIS COLLOQUY BUT A FEW
POINTS SAY I WILL HAVE A A CLOSE
AT THE END OF SURE IF I MAY BE
JUST A FEW POINTS ON ON SOME OF
THE TESTIMONY AND I?
I'M I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE PASSION
IN THE INTEREST OF THE FOLKS
BEHIND ME AND AS I INDICATED.
LIKE THE SENATOR SAID I WORK
HIGH IN CLOSE CONCERT WITH MANY
OF THESE PEOPLE ON A VARIETY OF
ISSUES AROUND.
A CAMPAIGN REFORM SO THIS HOUSE.
AND BUT I I WOULD NOT BE PUTTING
MY NAME ON THIS BILL IF I DIDN'T
THINK IT WAS AN IMPROVEMENT OVER
THE STATUS QUO WHICH IS AN
OPAQUE.
PROCESS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND.
IF THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERS ARE
RAISING FUNDS.
WHOSE --
GIVING TO THE LEGISLATIVE
LEADERS WHO SOLICITED.
AND THEN WHO IS BENEFITING FROM
FINES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY
THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERS
[inaudible]
THIS REMOVES BUT THAT PROCESS
THE IT IT CREATES A PARALLEL
PROCESS.
WITH LEGISLATIVE LEADERS ELECTED
OFFICIALS.
AND HE KNOWS I'M GOING TO ROCK
AND I DO HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT.
FOR IRAQ AND HIS WORK --
IN THE PARTY HE MENTIONED.
THAT THIS BILL IS A UNIFYING
FORCE I WAS SORT OF TRAPPED OF
BEING A UNIFIER.
RIGHT IN ENVISIONED THE SLOPPY
HOW [inaudible]
IT HAPPENS.
THAT'S NOT HOW I DREAMT IT --
BUT INTERESTING NONE THE LESS --
WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES SO JUST
A COUPLE OF UP APPOINTS?
ON THE PROCESS YES I WISH I RAN
THIS BILL IN JANUARY --
THERE WERE A VARIETY OF
DISCUSSIONS ARE HAPPENING OVER
THE COURSE OF THE YEAR --
WE PUT THIS BILL IN A PRINT IN
JULY -- SO
IT'S BEEN IN PRINT FOR AWHILE
AND BELIEVE ME I'VE BEEN HEARING
ABOUT THIS BILL SINCE JULY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE
HEARINGS MULTIPLE FLOOR VOTES
POTENTIALLY IF IT GETS --
HOUSE COMMITTEE TODAY.
AND A TWO THIRDS VOTE WITH THE
WITH THE MOB.
POLITICAL REFORM ACT.
PROBABLY REQUIRES BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT.
AND ULTIMATELY THE GOVERNOR THE
ORIGINAL AUTHOR OF THE POLITICAL
FORMAT PASSED TO BE OKAY WITH
THIS SO THERE IS A PROCESS
UNFOLDING A BELIEVE ME THE
PUBLIC IS FULLY ENGAGED.
BECAUSE IN THIS PROCESS A COUPLE
OF POINTS LIKE I KEEP HEARING
THE WORD AND I'M ON FACEBOOK AND
I SEE THE WORD UNLIMITED
UNLIMITED UNLIMITED.
THIS BILL CONFORMS TO THE
EXISTING.
LIMITS OF THIRTY SIX FIVE THIS
IS A REPLICATION.
OF THE EXISTING PROCESS THIS IS
NOT SOME NEW AVENUE WERE WERE
LIFTING CAPS AND LIFTING LIMITS
IT'S GOING TO INVITE.
TYPES OF MONEY WHERE YOU SEE THE
INCREASE IN FUNDS IN CALIFORNIA
POLITICS IS INDEPENDENT
EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES.
WHO ARE AT THE BANE OF THE
EXISTENCE OF MANY ELECTED
OFFICIALS I KNOW SOME OF WHOM
HAVE BENEFITTED FROM INDEPENDENT
EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES?
BUT THE FRUSTRATION WHEN YOU
HAVE INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE
COMMITTEES.
ON ELECTED FOLKS IN CHARGE OF
THIS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF
CORPORATE MONEY.
IN MANY WAYS APPLYING PRESSURE
VIA THE INITIATIVE PROCESS TO
THIS LEGISLATURE.
BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SEE AN
INITIATIVE ON THE BALLOT WE TAKE
ACTION.
THAT WE'D RATHER NOT TAKE.
WHO IS EXERTING THAT INFLUENCE
NOT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS IT IS
THE OUTSIDE IN APPENDIX MANAGER
COMMITTEES?
THIS MEASURE IS A MODICUM
[inaudible]
AMADA COME.
OF COUNTERWEIGHT TO THAT OUTSIDE
INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE MONEY I
HEAR THE WORDS DARK MONEY.
MONEY GENERALLY REFERS TO PLAY
UNLIMITED DONATIONS FROM
CORPORATIONS INDIVIDUALS AND
UNIONS I WAS SORT A NEW WITH
DARK MONEY MEN BUT ACTUALLY
LOOKED IT UP THIS MORNING.
UNLIMITED DONATIONS FROM
CORPORATIONS INDIVIDUALS AND
UNIONS WHERE THE DONORS ARE NOT
REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE THEIR
DONORS.
AB EIGHTY FOUR IS THE OPPOSITE
OF THAT.
THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.
THIS IS AN ANTI DARK MONEY BILL.
SO I GET SO FRUSTRATED.
WHEN I HEAR?
THESE WONDERFUL GROUPS.
THAT I'M A MEMBER OF THAT I
BELIEVE IN THE MISSION OF
CALLING MY BILL A DARK MONEY
BILL.
WE ARE REMOVING.
THIS OPAQUE PROCESS THIS YOU
NEED TO BE A FORENSIC ACCOUNTANT
IF ACCOUNTED DEFINE HOW THE
MONEY WORKS.
WE'RE MOVING THAT INTO THE
PUBLIC SPHERE TO THE PRESS THE
PUBLIC OTHERS CAN SEE WHAT'S
GOING ON HERE AND HOW MONEY IS
MOVING IN CALIFORNIA.
I UNDERSTAND THAT FOLKS IN MY
DEMOCRATIC PARTY BY THE WAY HAVE
BEEN A DUES PAYING MEMBER OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY SINCE.
NINETEEN EIGHTY EIGHT THE
DUKAKIS ERA.
THAT WAS AN ERA CULINARY.
REFILL CARE OF LONG HISTORY IN A
SENATE DEMOCRATIC CENTRAL
COMMITTEE --
PERSON MY FIRST ELECTIVE OFFICE
I HAVE TO GO TALK TO MY
DEMOCRATIC CENTRAL COMMITTEE
FOLKS ON THURSDAY THEY'RE NOT
HAPPY WITH ME BUT THEIR ISSUE IS
THEY DON'T.
WANT TO HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL
REPORTING.
BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY KIND OF A
PAIN IN THE NECK FORM.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T WANT.
TO I DON'T WANNA MAKE LIFE MORE
DIFFICULT. FOR THE SMALLER
COMMITTEES BUT WE CAME UP WITH
THE STANDARD OF FIFTY THOUSAND
DOLLARS ACRSS THE CYCLE WHICH
MEANS THERE'S SOME MONEY MOVING
THROUGH THE CENTRAL COMMITTEES.
AND I'M GONNA FIGURE OUT A WAY
TO TRY TO HELP THEM IF IF THERE
REALLY IS AN ISSUE THEIR WITH
THEM DOING THAT DISCLOSURE BUT
WE OUGHT TO BE THE PARTY OF
DISCLOSURE.
AND REPORTING AND SHARING WITH
THE PUBLIC WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
THESE PARTIES [inaudible]
SO.
I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT FOLKS IN
THE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY
ARE NOT THRILLED WITH THIS
[inaudible]
BUT PAUL THE RESPECTED BARAKA
AND OTHERS YES THESE FOLKS ARE
ELECTED BY THEIR DELEGATES.
WE ARE ELECTED BY THE PUBLIC
THIS IS INVESTING SOME
ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY ELECTED
LEADERS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE
PUBLIC WITH STRINGENT REPORTING.
REQUIREMENTS SO THIS IS AN
IMPROVEMENT.
OVER THE STATUS QUO.
WITH THAT MISTER CHAIR I WILL
LEAVE IT TOUGH FOR ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
AND WE'LL REVISIT FOR CLOSE
FRANKLY [inaudible]
CLEARLY.
THANK YOU --
THIS IS A HARD ONE THIS IS
REALLY HARD --
YOU KNOW YOU LOOK AT THINGS
DIFFERENTLY WHEN YOU RICKY WHEN
YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL --
WAS AN ACTIVIST FOR TWELVE
STOCKS ARE MUSCLE THE NEXT
ACTIVISTS BUT WAS AN ACTIVIST IN
THE LABOR MOVEMENT FOR TWENTY
YEARS BEFORE.
I RAN FOR OFFICE --
AYE -- TO
BUT SOME A MULLIN FOG GET
FRUSTRATED WHEN PEOPLE TALK
ABOUT THIS BEING DARK MONEY
BECAUSE IT IS JUST THE OPPOSITE
OF THAT.
I WORRY ABOUT TRANSPARENCY --
WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS I THINK
IT DOES AGGREGATES THE MONEY SO
WE CAN SEE EXACTLY WHERE IT CAME
FROM?
SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHO
CONTRIBUTED WHAT TO WIN I KNOW
TO JUST HEAR ME OUT OKAY --
I'VE LOST SLEEP OVER THIS OKAY
NONE OF US NONE OF US TAKES A
VOTE LATELY --
BUT YOU ALSO GET HERE AND YOU
SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE I.
IN THE END PICKED
INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE
CAMPAIGNS.
AND SMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE A
WAY TO FIGHT BACK.
AND THIS MIGHT BE A WAY TO HELP
US FIGHT BACK --
I WILL SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY.
AND THERE I HAVE QUESTIONS I
HAVE CONCERNS I'VE SPOKEN TO OUR
LEADERSHIP ABOUT IT THE PRO TEM.
AND THERE'S SOME THINGS I WANT
US TO WORK ON BUT I WILL SUPPORT
IT SO THAT WE CAN SO THAT WE CAN
I KNOW I SEE YOU PT YOUR THUMBS
DOWN IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB OKAY
WHEN YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL
YOU MAKE HARD DECISIONS.
YOU WEIGH IT AND YOU TRY TO MAKE
THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE.
I THINK TRANSPARENCY IS
IMPORTANT I DON'T TAKE MONEY
FROM OIL FROM TOBACCO FROM
WALMART YOU HAVE TO HAVE LINE
IN THE SAND.
AND I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS DO
BETTER AND I THINK THIS IS A
BILL ON ITS WAY IT STILL NEEDS
SOME WORK BUT I THINK THIS IS A
BILL THAT CAN.
WITH SOME TWEAKS CAN HELP US DO
BETTER I WORRY ABOUT INDEPENDENT
EXPENDITURE CAMPAIGNS IF ANYBODY
ISN'T WORRIED ABOUT THOSE YOU
SHOULD BE THESE ARE THE THINGS
THAT ARE REALLY DRIVING --
OUR OUR PARTY IN THE WRONG
DIRECTION THIS IS MIGHT BE
WE DON'T EVER KNOW THIS MIGHT BE
A WAY.
AND I DO THINK THAT IT'S FAR
MORE TRANSPARENT THAN THE
CURRENT PROCESS WE HAVE IS IT A
PERFECT BILL NO IT'S NOT A
PERFECT BILL.
AND I HOPE THAT MOVING FORWARD
WE CAN DO BETTER.
AND THAT WE CAN LIKE ALL FEEL
THE SUPPORTED ON THE FLOOR BUT
IF WE CAN'T MAKE SOME CHANGES
THAT I MIGHT NOT BILL SUPPORTED
ON THE FLOOR.
OKAY THANK YOU SENATOR LEYVA.
WEAK INCOME BRINGING HIM BACK TO
THE DAYS MISTER VICE CHAIR
ANYTHING SCHOOL I HAD A FEW
COMMENTS BUT WITH THIS NOW WITH
THE PROBLEMS THAT IS.
SO -- TWELVE
THAT WE HAVE FOR THE MINISTER
MLLIN AND ACTUALLY FOR THE
OPPOSITION TO ONLY GO OVER.
POINTS THAT I THINK SHOULD BE
CLARIFIED FOR THE RECORD SO --
PROCESS WISE --
NOT IDEAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT THIS HEARING
IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT VENUE
[inaudible]
AND I THINK.
THE MEMBERS THINK YOU'RE YOU'RE
YOU'RE READING IT ON THEIR FACE
IN IN THEIR COMMENTS --
HAVE.
THOROUGHLY HEARD YOU --
IF WE DID HAVE MORE TIME --
THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITIES AND
I REGRET FRANKLY --
THE TIMING I WOULD CALL THIS THE
TENTH HOUR PERHAPS NOT THE
ELEVENTH BUT YOU KNOW ON
THE ON THE PROCESS AYE I DO HAVE
SERIOUS CONCERNS --
ON THE SUBSTANCE OF IT.
I I WANTED TO SORT OF
INTERROGATE THIS ISSUE THERE
SEEMS TO BE A SORT OF
FUNDAMENTAL DISPUTE ABOUT
WHETHER THIS WILL LEAD TO MORE
MONEY OR IS IT THE SAME AMOUNT
OF NET MONEY.
GOING INTO DIFFERENT CHANNELS
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THE
ARGUMENT IS.
WELL IF THERE'S IF IF IT'S THEN.
THE DOLLARS WILL JUST FLOW
THROUGH ONE OF THESE LEGISLATIVE
COMMITTEES AND THAT --
YOU KNOW WOULD BE MORE
TRANSPARENT THAN.
FOR SORT OF GETTING BANKS
SHOUTED ON THE OTHER HAND IF YOU
HAVE A IT'S A DIFFERENT VIEW
THAT IT'S NOT ZERO SUM IN THERE
IS ENDLESS POLITICAL MONEY OUT
THERE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY
INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY --
YOU KNOW I IT'S HARD TO EVALUATE
A HYPOTHETICAL HERE BECAUSE WE
REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WOULD
PLAY OUT IF IT BECAME LAW NO ONE
REALLY KNOWS BUT I DO THINK --
CENTER LABELS POINT IS WELL
TAKEN IN THAT.
THE THE THE TRUE ENEMY HERE IS
INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES IN
CITIZENS UNITED I WOULD SAY
FIRST AND FOREMOST --
AND PUBLIC FINANCING --
DESERVES NOT JUST HEARING BUT
REAL ENGAGEMENT --
AND I WANT THIS COMMITTEE TO
TAKE THAT ISSUE ON IT IS VERY
HARD TO DO ANY CITIZENS UNITED
CLIMATE AS MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW
BUT WATCHING IN A RECENT SPECIAL
ELECTION.
NO IT DIDN'T.
FALL IN ALL THE MAYBE THREE
MILLION DOLLARS ARE SO AN
INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES IN A
VERY SUBSTANTIAL CHUNK OF THAT
COMING FROM THE OIL INDUSTRY --
THE YOU KNOW MADE ME INCREDIBLY
UNCOMFORTABLE AND CONCERNED
ABOUT THESE DARK FORCES --
I DO NOT THINK.
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER IS PROPONENT
FOR THE THOSE INTERESTS --
NOR ANYONE ON THIS COMMITTEE BUT
I I WILL SAY --
YOU NO WE HAVE TO COMBAT THAT --
THERE ARE ALSO THE POLITICS OF
IT.
AN INTERESTING POSITION WHERE I
I MEAN THE LEGISLATURE HERE SO I
CAN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT MY
POLITICAL SELF INTEREST TO
RELEASE THAT OUGHT NOT BE THE
JURISDICTION OF THIS COMMITTEE.
BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT THE SIGNAL
WILL BE SENDING THAT WE WANT%
MORE ACTIVISTS ENGAGE THAT WE
WANT TO BE AN OPEN PARTY AND AND
OTHER REPUBLICANS CAN.
YOU KNOW THEY'LL DO WHAT THEY'RE
GONNA DO IT HOWEVER THEY WANT TO
ENGAGE THEIR BASE BUT THAT.
THAT IS OF OF CONCERN TO ME BUT
AND I I IF WE COULD.
JUST SPEND A SECOND.
SORT OF EVALUATING THIS QUESTION
OF IT WAS IT WAS IT COMMON CAUSE
WHO SAID INCREASING EIGHT FOLD.
WHERE IS THAT FROM THE ORDERS?
MISTER I DON'T JUST SO.
CONDIT'S NOTION OF IS IS IT
REALLY INCREASING A. PULLED I
GET IF YOU ADD UP. THIRTY SIX
FIVE TIMES WHATEVER THAT'S A
THAT'S A TO ACCEPT BUT HAVE YOU
HAVE YOU SORT OF LOOKED AT THIS
ISSUE AS TO SORT OF THE NET
GIVING AND HOW YOU SEE I MEAN
HOW IS A PLAYED OUT PERHAPS IN
OTHER STATES OR OTHER
JURISDICTIONS.
I'M LOOKING FOR SOME KIND OF
COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS ARE WE ON
OUR OWN HERE ARE THERE IS A
STUDENT SENATE JUST.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN GIVE-YOU COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS
FORECASTS FOR ANOTHER YEAR WE
MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SO.
BUT I WHAT I CAN SAY IS WE DO
THINK THIS WILL LEAD TO
INCREASED TOTAL AMOUNT OF
FUNDING YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO
ARE MAXING OUT TO THE PARTY
CURRENTLY AND WILL LIKELY MAX AT
THESE LEGISLATIVE CAUCUS
COMMITTEES IN ADDITION TO THE
PARTY.
SO WE DO THINK IT'S GOING TO
LEAD TO INCREASE MONEY OF PEOPLE
WHO DON'T EVEN HAVE SOLICITED
DONATIONS FROM LEADERSHIP WE'RE
GOING TO ON THEIR OWN MAKE
DONATIONS TO LEADERSHIP.
WITH THE KERN DO PRIOR.
AND I THINK THE OTHER THING TO
UNDERSTAND THOUGH IS IT'S NOT
EVEN IT'S NOT SOLELY THAT
PHYSICS CAN LEAD TO AN INCREASED
AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THIS.
SYSTEM.
IT'S THAT IT INCREASES ITS.
HAVING A DONATION TO THE PARTY
IS OF COURSE ONE THING THE PARTY
DOESN'T MAKE LAWS YOU GUYS MAKE
CLOTHES.
ADDING THAT INCREASED SIZE EIGHT
FULL DONATION TO LEGISLATE
EARLIER WHO DOES MY CLOSET HAS
MORE INFLUENCE THAN ANYONE ELSE
AND SPOTTY TO ME BECAUSE THAT'S
THE DIFFERENCE.
THE VALUE THE CONTRIBUTION GOES
WAY UP IN HIS THE VALUE GOES UP
THE POSSIBILITY FOR UNDUE
INFLUENCE GOES UP.
I THINK WE'RE I THINK WE'RE ALL
ABLE TO AGREE.
IS WORTH FOREIGN BUYS MORE
INFLUENCE RELEASED.
THAT ELEVATES INFLUENCE THAN A
ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR CONTRIBUTION
CERTAINLY A CONTRIBUTION WITH NO
RESTRICTIONS UNDER COMPLETE
CONTROL LEADERSHIP.
CERTAINLY HAS MORE VALUE.
THAN ONE THAT HAS STRINGS
ATTACHED.
WE GET YEAH PLEASE SETTLE ON
YOUR ON YOUR APPOINTMENTS
CHAIRMAN.
AND THAT IS A SHORT STICK WITH
YOU ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS
IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.
MY EXPERIENCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN
THE NUMBER TO MAKE UP THINGS TO
CHANGE ABOUT SUGGESTING IT'S NOT.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO RAISE MONEY
FOR SUPER ELECTED OFFICIAL OR
SENATE CANDIDATE OF THEIR CHOICE.
AND WHAT THEY'LL DO IS A SAY
WILL RAISE SIX DOLLARS AND WHAT
HAPPENS IS IF IT'S OVER AND
ABOVE THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE TO
THE INDIVIDUAL ALL.
THE MONEY GOES TO THE PARTY.
IF IT'S OVER ABOVE THAT NUMBER
IT GOES TO ALL THE OTHER PARTY
COMMITTEES THERE ARE TONS OF
PARTY COMMITTEES ALL THROUGHOUT
THE STATE THAT HAVE GOTTEN
CONTRIBUTIONS.
THAT HAVE BEEN DIRECTED BY
VARIOUS LEGISLATORS TO TRY TO
HELP THE CAT IN THAT AREA OR
WHATEVER SO I I JUST I I ONLY
THING I DO IS.
THE OF YOUR POINT ABOUT ABOUT
CONTRIBUTION AMOUNTS I DON'T
OBJECT TO AT ALL BUT I JUST I
JUST DON'T THINK THAT ALL OF A
SUDDEN THIS IS GOING TO RESULT
IN A BUNCH MORE MONEY.
IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THE SYSTEM
ALREADY HAS A HUNDRED AVENUES
PARTICULAR THROUGH THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT HAS BEEN
USING SINCE PROP THIRTY FOUR
CAME INTO EFFECT WHERE PEOPLE
HAVE MADE CONTRIBUTIONS TO ALL
SORTS OF PARTIES ON ALL SORTS OF
COUNTY COMMITTEES.
AND THE LIKE AROUND THE STATE
THAT JUST HAPPENS TO DATE IS
THERE THE EVIDENCE IS THERE THE
F. PPC FILINGS ARE THERE.
RIGHT SO I I JUST I DO YOUR
NOTION OF HYPOTHETICAL NOTION
THAT.
IT'S GONNA BE EIGHT FOLD AND THE
MONEY'S GOING TO GROW ON TREES
ARE TO COME OUT OF SOMEWHERE AND
THEY'RE GONNA PUSH IT MORE.
MAYBE TWO I'M NOT SUGGESTING
YOU'RE WRONG I'M JUST SUGGESTING
FROM MY OWN OBSERVATION THERE'S
A HUNDRED AVENUES AND THAT THE
POINT THAT MISTER MULLIN MAKES
IT LOOK AT ME.
IS THAT THOSE HE'S TRYING TO
MOVE AWAY FROM THAT OPAQUE
SYSTEM THAT SAYS ALL PROMISE
ACTS AND GIVE IT TO FIVE
DIFFERENT PARTY SEE YOU COULDN'T
OTHERWISE SEE IT UNLESS SHE HAD
A SEARCH WARRANT.
AND KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON TO
AND DISCLOSE IT WHICH IS THE
CORNERSTONE A WE'VE BEEN
FIGHTING FOR SINCE PROP.
NINE IT YOU KNOW MOVING AWAY
FROM A TRUST MODEL WENT WITH
THAT WAS PASSED WITH JERRY BROWN
WAS STICK DE SECTOR STATE.
SO HOW DO YOU WOULD YOU COME UP
THE CONCLUSIONS NICE ARGUMENT TO
MAKE BUT FROM MY POINT OF VIEW
IT JUST IT HAS NO BASIS IN ANY
EVIDENCE THAT I'VE EVER SEEN.
THROUGH THE CHAIR PLEASE.-FIRST A CLARIFICATION.
THE EIGHT FOLD INCREASE WE'RE
NOT SAYING THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT
OF MONEY WILL INCREASE A FULL
THE EIGHT FOLD INCREASES THE
AMOUNT CURRENTLY A CANDY CAN GET.
FORTY FOUR HUNDRED VERSUS THE
AMOUNT THAT CAN BE DIRECTLY
CONTROLLED BY A CANDID IN THIS
CASE LEGISLATIVE LEADERS.
TIED TO THEIR NEW COMMITTEE
WHICH IS THIRTY SIX THOUSAND
FIVE HUNDRED THAT'S THE EIGHT
FOLD INCREASE.
TIES IN WITH THAT GOES TO IS THE
VALUE OF THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE
LISTENER LEADER I DON'T THINK
THERE'S ANY QUESTION.
THAT THE VALUE TO LEADER OF A
CONTRIBUTION GOES DIRECTLY TO
THEM VERSUS A SUGGESTION THAT
SOMEONE GETS THE PARTY ANY
SUGGESTION THAT THE PARTY THEN.
MAKE EXPENDITURES ON MORALS
VALUES CLEARLY MUCH HIGHER THAN
IN THE VALUES CLEARLY MUCH
HIGHER THE POTENTIAL RENTS
INFLUENCES ALSO CLEARLY MUCH
HIGHER.
BETTER THE ISSUE WILL THIS LEAD
TO MORE FUNDING I THINK CLEARLY
THAT WELL.
WHEN YOU HAVE FOR NEW COMMITTEES
THAT ARE CREATED TO GIVE YOU
DIRECT ACCESS GIVING DONATIONS
DIRECTLY BELIEVES HAVE THE
LEADERSHIP WILL CONTROL?
THAT IS FAR MORE TRY TO PLACE TO
PLACE YOUR MONIES IN THE MADERA
COUNTY DEMOCRATIC CENTRAL
COMMITTEE WELL I CAN TELL YOU AS
SOMEONE WHO USED TO RUN THAT.
IT'S NOT OF ITS TRUE IN THE IN
THE PRACTICE HAS BEEN TO IN MY
EXPERIENCE IN THE REASON IS IS
BECAUSE EVERY KETTERING FOR
OFFICE MARKETS OUTSIDE REASONS
WHY BUT YOU BUDDY. TO BE ABLE TO
WIN AND YOU HAVE NO YOU KNOW I
LEFT EIGHT ZERO I GIVE
EVERYTHING AWAY TO EVERYBODY TO
MAKE SURE WE CAN WIN WHEN I
STARTED WITH THIRTY NINE OF MY
PARTY IN TH.
DO YOU MY HOUSE WHEN I LEFT
BECAUSE EVERY DOLLAR I REYES WAS
TO HELP EVERY CANDIDATE FOR
BECAUSE AND EVERYBODY IN EVERY
GRASSROOTS THING THAT WE DID ALL
ACROSS THE STATE AND THAT'S JUST
THE WAY IT WORKS TO ME.
THE BASED THE STATE LEADER HE
GOT HELP BECAUSE THIS IS NOT
RIGHT SO YOU'RE NOT USING THE
MONEY FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
ELECT PEOPLE OF YOUR PARTY
THAT'S FOR SURE.
YOU KNOW ME THAT BELIEVE ME THE
PRESSURE AMONG CANDIDATES AND
GRASSROOTS AND PEOPLE CALLING
YOU AND ASKING FOR SUPPORT AND
SUPPORT THIS AND THAT.
IS EXTRAORDINARY I I JUST DON'T
THINK THAT'S PRAGMATIC IN TERMS
OF HOW THE WITHOUT THE WORLD
WORKS I I DO THINK THERE'S A
NUMBER OF THE POINTS YOU MAKE
THEIR VERY MCCOY SO MUCH TAKEN
AWAY FROM YOU.
I JUST WANT TO HAVE AN HONEST
DISCUSSION ABOUT MY HISTORY AND
THE OBSERVATIONS IN THIS
PARTICULAR AREA.
THANK YOU SENATOR --
WANTED TO BRING IT BACK SO
THAT'S A DISCUSSION ABOUT AMOUNT
IS ANOTHER DISCUSSION TO HAVE
MET -- TYPE
OF MONEY NOT TOTAL AMOUNT BUT
WHICH MONEY.
IN WHICH MONEY MATTERS SO --
TO OUR FRIENDS IN THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY HERE MEAN.
THESE -- THE
PLATFORM PRINCIPLES THAT THE
PARTY HAS ADOPTED ON WHICH MONEY
TO TAKE IN WHICH NOT TO TAKE IS
THAT -- IS
THAT IT IN YOUR BY LAWS AT THIS
POINT DE HOW WHAT WAS THE STE
YOU MENTION A FEW DIFFERENT
INJURIES THAT YOU ARE THAT THEY
PARTY DOESN'T TAKE MONEY FROM
HOW IS HOW IS THAT BEING NICE TO
INTERACT.
WITH THREE I'D SAY THERE'S THREE
DIFFERENT THINGS FIRST FROM
THEIR BEEN RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE
PASSED AT EITHER KEYBOARDS OR
CONVENTIONS FOR EXAMPLE THE THE
PRESCRIPTION ON DIRECT
CONTRIBUTIONS FROM OIL COMPANIES
THAT WAS.
YOU KNOW THAT WAS OUR FAIR
ENVIRONMENTAL CHAIR ARE ALL
MILLER ORGANIZING DIE DELEGATES
ON THE FLOOR AND WAS A VOTE.
THE MOST FINANCING THE PLATFORM
NOW I'M NOT A FLAT NOT THE
PLATFORM IS A RENTAL STANDS A
RESOLUTION ADOPTED AS I
MENTIONED OUT ITS CO EQUAL IN
TERMS OF CERTAIN LEGISLATIVE
POWER WITHIN AN ORGANIZATION --
AND THEN FOR EXAMPLE ARE A
PRESCRIPTION ON PROHIBITION ON
TAKING MONEY FROM.
THAT WAS JUST OF THE OFFICERS --
THAT WEAVES A CODE DECORATIVE
COMMITTEE SORT OF THE OF THE
STATEWIDE OFFICE SOME SORT OF
CASE STATEMENT THAT WE WILL BE
CO DEFYING --
IN RESOLUTION --
AND THEN THE THIRD THING IS THAT
WE HAVE BUT I JUST FORMED AA BUT
I CAMPAIGN FINANCE WORKING GROUP.
NOT WHERE WE'VE INVITED --
LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP AND
GRASSROOTS ACTIVISTS AND CLEAN
MONEY ACTIVISTS TO TALK MORE
POLITICALLY EXACTLY ABOUT HOW WE
CAN DEAL WITH THINGS LIKE.
THE THE YOU KNOW HOW TO TRACE
THE ORIGIN OF FUNDS THAT HAVE
BEEN GIVEN TO ONE COMMITTEE AND
THEN ANOTHER COMMITTEE EXACT
EXACTLY THE THINGS THAT HAVE
BEEN RAISED --
WE WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION
WELL I'M THAT DISCUSSION IS
MOVING FORWARD --
BUT SO FAR IT'S HAPPENED BOTH BY
EXECUTIVE DECISION AND
RESOLUTION GOT IT OKAY THANK YOU
THAT'S HELPFUL --
YEAH YOU KNOW I I SEE.
I SEE THE THE ABILITY.
FOR A THE CAUCUS POTENTIALLY --
TO FIND ITSELF IN A TOUGH SPOT
FOR INSTANCE IF IT WERE TO TAKE
MONEY THAT THE PARTY WASN'T
TAKING RIGHT I MEAN THAT'S IF
THIS BILL BECAME LAW YOU COULD
FIND YOURSELF IN A SITUATION
WHERE.
LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP IS --
PARTICIPATING IN FUNDRAISING
THAT THE PARTIES IS NOW AND I
YEAH.
BATTLE BE A FIGHT I WOULD
IMAGINE --
WILLIS AND I YOU KNOW.
I DIDN'T IF THEY'RE MORE ISSUES
THAT NEEDED TO SORT OF BE
LITIGATED HERE I I DO WANT TO
GIVE A CHANCE TO HEAR THOSE OUT --
DE IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WOMAN FOR A YEAR MISTER
ALL -- AS
SOMEONE WHO WAS AT COUNTY
CENTRAL COMMITTEE CHAIR FOR TEN
YEARS AND FOUND COOPERATED WITH
THE WHO ARE BOTH ASSEMBLY
DEMOCRATS AND THE SENATE
DEMOCRATS ELECTORAL PROGRAM
UNDER SEVERAL.
SPEAKERS AND PRO TEM'S YOU KNOW
THAT THERE IS A VERY DIFFERENT
WAY THAT IT'S THAT THAT PROGRAM
IS THOUGHT ABOUT BY THE PARTY
FOLKS AND BY THE LEGISLATORS AND
THAT'S THAT.
YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIMES THE
LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP SEES IT
AS A PASS THROUGH THE WAY THAT
WE'VE CONSERVE DESCRIBED IT.
YOU CAN GIVE A BUNCH OF MONEY TO
THIS COUNTY COMMITTEE AND THEN
THEY MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS ONTO A
CAMPAIGN.
BUT IMPRACTICALITY ESPECIALLY
OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS SINCE
THE PARTY HAS BEEN MORE AND MORE
INFLUENCED BY GRASSROOTS
ACTIVISTS AND AND AND MORE
ENGAGED ON THE I'M YOU KNOW I
WAS ABLE TO TELL BOTH THE SENATE
AND ASSEMBLY LEADERSHIPS THAT.
LIKE IN SANTA BARBARA WE'RE NOT
GONNA ACCEPT ANY OIL MONEY WAY
BEFORE THE STATE PARTY TOOK THAT
UP BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SANTA
BARBARA --
BUT WE WOULDN'T TAKE MONEY FROM
ANY EMPLOYER THAT WAS HAVING
PROBLEM WITH THEIR UNION YOU
NICE WORKFORCE IT'S ADDRESS.
SO SO EVEN UNDER THE CURRENT
SYSTEM THERE IS FAT
ORGANIZATIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY
AND BECAUSE IT ISN'T TO PASS
THROUGH AND THE LAW IS WRITTEN
VERY EXPLICITLY TO MAKE SURE
IT'S NOT A PASS THROUGH OR A
QUID PRO QUO OR WHATEVER.
WE DON'T MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF
DONATIONS OUT OF THE
CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE THAT WERE
SOLICITED BY LEADERS INTO OUR
COMMITTEE.
THAT DIFFERENCE WHICH SOME
PEOPLE CYNICALLY CALL IT
SURCHARGE THAT DIFFERENCE IS
WHAT WE SPEND ON INFRASTRUCTURE
CLUB DEVELOPMENT ELECTING PEOPLE
AT THE GRASSROOTS THE DOWN THE
TICKET ELECTING PEOPLE EGGMAN
MEEKLY MOAN TO THE SCHOOL BOARD
WHO THEN GOES ON TO BE AN
ASSEMBLY MEMBER.
RIGHT THAT IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT
JUST A BANK ACCOUNT WEARING
ORGANIZATION OF PEOPLE.
AND IT'S VERY DISTURBING AFTER
BEING TOLD BY LEADERS AND ALL
AND THE AUTHOR BEFORE THAT HE
WERE JUST SETTING UP THESE
COMMITTEES WERE STILL OF COURSE
GOING TO WORK WITH TH PARTY BUT
NOW HEARING.
HEY THIS IS A BETTER SYSTEM THAN
THE CURRENT SYSTEM AND WE'RE
GOING TO REPLACE IT.
IS EVEN MORE DISTURBING IF
THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH
TRANSPARENCY IN THE CURRENT
SYSTEM LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT
LET'S FIX THIS.
PLEASE DON'T MOVE THIS BILL
FORWARD SO WE CAN HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION AND NOT BE TALKING
ABOUT REPLACING THE CURRENT
ACCOUNTABLE DEMOCRATIC
PARTICIPATORY STRUCTURE WITH THE
TOP DOWN [inaudible]
ONE OKAY.
THANK YOU MISTER LAMB OFFER.
A WE CAN'T DO APPLAUSE BUT THANK
YOU FOR YOUR PLATE HAND WAVING --
COMPELLING ARGUMENTS --
I DO WANT TO GIVE THE AUTHOR A
CHANCE TO RESPOND IN HIS CLOTHES
BUT MEMBERS IF YOU HAD OTHER
FURTHER.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS NOW'S THE
TIME YEAH CENTER HERTZBERG.
YEAH I ALREADY OWNED JOINTURE
KNOWN FULL DISCLOSURE OF THE
PARTY CHAIRS A CONSTITUENT OF
MINE LIVES NOT A MILE DOWN THE
STREET IN MY HOUSE. FIVE
DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT MY PART
INTIMATE PRESSURE INHERENT HERE
TELLING ME IN THE MIDDLE THE
PARTY CHAIR YOU KNOW THAT EXISTS
BUT AS WELL AS THE CONTROLLER
BEING MY BEST FRIEND.
BUT THE THE IT YOU DON'T LET ME
SAY SOME IS WHAT I THINK WE
SHOULD DO TODAY IN MY JUDGMENT
TAUGHT LISTEN TO THIS.
THERE'S SOME HOLE THERE'S A
PRETTY BIG HOLES IN THIS THING
ONE IS IS CERTAINLY THE ISSUE OF
TIMING. TO WHICH THE ISSUE I
THINK THAT BUT THE MECHANICAL
ISSUE AFFECTING BROUGH COUNTY
COMMITTEES ALIKE. THREE I THINK
THAT THERE COULD BE SOME FURTHER
DISCUSSION CONCERNING DISCLOSURE
WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I I YOU KNOW.
MISTER MULLIN IS A GREAT
LEGISLATOR.
HE'S A GREAT LEGISLATOR I TRUST
HIM.
HE WHICH HE DID THIS YOU ARE THE
DISH WITH HIM ON A BILL WE CAN
ALWAYS DISAGREE ON A BILL BUT
USE STRAIGHT UP THESE HONORABLE
HE'S COMPLETELY TRUSTED AND I
TRUST THEM.
AND SO MY THINKING IS WE DO HAVE
UNTIL THE END OF THIS WEEK TO
FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A SOLUTION
HERE.
BOB AND THE SINGLE IN IN THIS
TIME OF ALL IN THE LEGISLATURE
THESE ON LIFE TIMES TO UP. TO DO
THIS AND AND I I THINK WE SHOULD
GIVE THEM THAT SHOT AND I WHAT
I'M SUGGESTING.
AND I THINK WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS
I LISTEN TO EVERYBODY HERE TODAY.
HE IS TO KIND OF TAKE THE SAME
ADMONITION THAT SENATOR LABOR
DID WHICH IS [inaudible]
BOMB.
SAY THAT FOR PURPOSES OF GIVING
HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF WE
CAN REACH AN ACCOMMODATION WITH
EVERYBODY REACH REACHES THE
ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN FLUSHED
OUT I TOOK ALL THE NOTES OF WHAT
EVERYBODY SAID.
AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO
IT THERE'S NOT YOU GOTTA GET
VOTES THE FLOOR YOU GOTTA GO TO
APPROPRIATIONS OF THIS IS NOT
OVER STILL GOT TO GO.
CONCURRENCE IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF
STUFF THAT HAS TO HAPPEN THAT
ENGAGES THE PROCESS AT THE END
OFTHE DAY YOU COULD SAY WHAT
YOU WANT BUT EVERYBODY OF ALL
HUNDRED TWENTY MEMBERS WE STEP
ON TWENTY COMPLEMENT YEAH. ONE
HUNDRED TWENTY WE DO ACTUALLY A
HUNDRED TWENTY PEOPLE AND LET
THEM MAKE A VOTE IN THE WHAT'S
THE CASE SO I'M NOT GOING.
TO I'M KIND OF ON THE FENCE AS
TO WHAT TO DO THIS I THINK IF
SOME OF THESE CHANGES ARE MADE
I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THIS ON
THE FOOR NOT IN APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE.
BUT I DO THINK IT'S FAIR TO
MISTER MARLAND. TO GIVE THEM
EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO WORK
OUT SOMETHING IF IT'S HUMANLY
POSSIBLE HE'S OPEN MINDED HIS
HEART'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE HE'S
HELD EVERY PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
STUFF WE DID LAST YEAR ON AND ON
TRANSPARENCY STUFF WE CAN HELP
YOU GET THE VOTES AND MAKE THAT
STUFF HAPPENED SO I I'M GONNA
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A SHOT TO TRY
TO DO IT BUT YOU KNOW WITH THE
ADMONITION THAT.
IT'S NOT DONE THAT THERE'S A
CHALLENGES THAT I THINK
EVERYBODY RAISED HERE TODAY BUT
I THINK IT'S A FAIR AND
APPROPRIATE THING.
BUT TO LINK TO LINK YOU CAN KEEP
GOING GIVEN EVERY CHART TO SEE
IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A
COMBINATION. TO TO MAKE IT WORK
I THINK THAT LEADERSHIP IN BOTH
HOUSES A REASONABLE TO DEAL WITH.
AND I DO THINK THAT THERE'S
INTELLIGENT ARGUMENTS ON BOTH
SIDES SO I WENT VOTE FOR IT --
IT WOULD BECAUSE I CONFIDENCE.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD RUN IT
LIVE GOT WHAT IT TO THE GROUND
IT REQUIRES TWO THIRDS VOTES
ANYWAY CORRECT. TO GET OUT OF
BOTH HOUSES AND I THINK THAT IS
A LOT OF PEOPLE WE'VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT A LOT BUT IT OUR
CAUCUS IN THERE'S A LOT OF IT IS
INTEREST BUT THERE'S A LOT YOU
KNOW LIKE EVERYBODY'S FOCUS ON
IT WOULD BE PEOPLE IN BOTH
PARTIES.
DONE A VERY VERY GOOD JOB AT OF
THE HUNDREDS OF BILLS THAT ARE
PENDING BEFORE US PUTTING THIS
OFF THE TOP OF THE LIST IN TERMS
OF MAKING SURE WE THINK ABOUT IT.
SO.
THAT'S WHAT I'LL BE DOING TODAY
MISTER CHAIRMAN.
MISTER VICE CHAIR.
AND I LISTENED TO ALL THE
ARGUMENTS VERY CLOSELY
[inaudible]
AND TWO MEMBERS WHO REFERRED TO
CHANGES THAT NEED TO OCCUR BUT I
HAVEN'T HEARD WITH THOSE CHANGES
ARE.
IN OUR VIEW INTERESTED NO.
WHAT THOSE CHANGES WOULD LOOK
LIKE?
I HAVE MOVING FORWARD IF
SOMEBODY HAS AN IDEA MAYBE
SOMEBODY MENTIONED THOSE CHANGES.
BY I DIDN'T HEAR THEM AND SO IF
THERE ARE CHANGES THAT WERE
THINKING IN TERMS OF IF YOU
WOULDN'T MIND OR IF ANYBODY.
WHO SPOKE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE
[inaudible]
I PER.
IS THE CHAIR.
SHORT.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANY SPECIFIC
CHANGES WHEN I TALK ABOUT
CHANGES MY THOUGHT IS WE MIGHT
BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE
OPPOSITION TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN
GET THEM TO A PLACE WHERE THEY
WOULD EITHER NOT OPPOSE THE BILL.
OR EVEN SUPPORT THE BILL SO I
DON'T HAVE ANYTHING YOU KNOW IN
MY BACK POCKET RAY TO SAY LET'S
DO THIS BUT YOU KNOW.
AS YOU KNOW AS A LEGISLATOR WERE
ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS WHERE WE
CAN COME TOGETHER VERSES NOT.
AND HAVE BEEN COMING FROM A
POSITION OF OPPOSITIONS WHAT I
MEANT.
MR IS SO MISTER RICHARD YOU KNOW.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING
THE BILL --
TODAY AND I CAN'T I CAN'T FROM A
PROCESS PERSPECTIVE I HAVE TO
BUILD SOME PRINCIPLES HERE'S THE
CHAIR AND SAY IF THIS IS IN.
FULLY BAKED IN MY VIEW OR ALL
THE WAY THEY'RE GANNETT AND I
HAVE TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BUT JUST
TO TRY TO SYNTHESIZE I GUESS FOR
THE ISSUE SAID.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT --
NOT THAT IT THAT OVERALL LIMITS
RATE SO THAT THIRTY SIX FIVE
TIMES THAT --
FOR IS IN EXCESS OF WHAT THE
PARTY HAS IT TODAY ANOTHER THAT
YOU TALK ABOUT DEMOCRATIC PARTY
CHANGES TO WHICH REALLY NOT
PARTICULARLY GERMANE TO THIS
BILL SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE
COULD PROBABLY.
LOOK INTO OUTSIDE IS A PROCESS --
BUT ASSEMBLY OR I MEAN IT'S YOUR
BILL SO THAT YOU KNOW I I DON'T
WANT TO IMPOSE ANY OTHER.
POINTS ON YOU OR OR PRESUME YOUR
INTENT HERE BUT BUT I WOULD
OFFER IT TO YOU TO CLOSE AND
PERHAPS IN YOUR CLOTHES YOU
COULD.
FIT ARTICULATE IF YOU SHOULD THE
BILL MOVE.
FOR A WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
OF FOR THE ROBUST DISCUSSION I
WANT TO THANK --
THE ADVOCATES PA WHO TESTIFIED
ALONE I THINK IRAQ AND COULD
WORK AT THE PARTY --
SO I AM OPEN TO REFINING THIS
BILL IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT
CAN BE ADDRESS THAT CONCERN IS
WE ARE.
UP AGAINST A LITTLE BIT OF A
WINDOW IN THAT THE BILL NEEDS ME
IN CRANFORD TWELVE DAYS --
AND THE VERSION OF A POLITICAL
REFORM ACT --
AND OUR OUR SESSION ADJOURNS AT
THE END OF THE MONTH SO IS OF A
RELATIVELY --
A TIGHT WINDOW BUT THIS BILL
MANY [inaudible]
FORUMS.
AND THEY PARTICULAR I AM --
I WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE
SMALLER --
CENTRAL COMMITTEE STUFF LOCAL
COUNTY BY COUNTY ACTIVISTS.
BOB MANY YOU WHO MANY OF WHOM
ARE LOOKING AT THIS SAYING OKAY
THIS IS JUST MORE PAPERWORK
MISTER CHAIR I BELIEVE IT WOULD
HAVE LEADERS MISTER SHARON ON
SARS MISDEMEANOR HERTZBERG
TALKING ABOUT.
THE VOLUMES OF PAPERWORK AND
SOMEBODY WHO IS ENGAGED IN THIS
SYSTEM FILLING OUT PAPERWORK I
DON'T WANT TO CREATE UNNECESSARY.
UP PAPERWORK ABOUT FOR A FOR
SMALL -- YOU
KNOW VERY MODESTLY STRUCTURED
CENTRAL COMMITTEES I THINK SOME
OF THE LARGER CENTRAL COMMITTEES --
A REALLY HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST OF
FUND RAISING A MECHANISM AND
MAYBE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO
SOME OF THE REPORTING SELF.
I WILL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT
ISSUE CALM AND WE ARE ARE GOING --
TO SYNTHESIZE THE DISCUSSION
HERE TODAY I WOULD LOVE NOTHING
MORE THAN THE GOOD GOVERNMENT
GROUPS -- TO
WHICH I'VE BEEN ALIGNED IN A
VARIETY OF FRONTS ON DISCLOSURE
AND TRANSPARENCY OF THEIR
SOMETHING HOW THAT CAN GET THOSE
FOLKS TO OF MORE OF A COMFORT
LEVEL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WILL GET THEM
TO SUPPORT --
WHERE DO HERE I'D SOME GENERAL
AGREEMENT IS IN THE GENERALLY
SHARED ANTIPATHY TO INDEPENDENT
EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES?
BEYOND ELECTED OFFICIALS BEYOND
BIG MONEY THAT MOVES MONEY
AROUND IN THE POLITICAL SYSTEM.
IN SOME CASES AS YOU SEE WITH
ISSUE ADS EVEN AS WE SPEAK WITH
VERY LITTLE DISCLOSURE.
THAT IS AN ISSUE --
THAT IS TO CALM.
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY
BEING SPENT TRIED INCLUDES VOTES
IN THIS LEGISLATURE ON TV WITH
VERY LITTLE DISCLOSURE.
IT AN ISSUE FOR ANOTHER ANOTHER
DAY MISTER CHAIR LAWS SO I I
WANT TO SHARE THAT.
LET ME JUST SAY IF I IF I MAY IS
A VERY BRIEF CLOSE --
RIGHT NOW INDEPENDENT
EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES WHO UNDER
THE CITIZENS UNITED DECISION AS
HAS BEEN REFERENCE CAN RAISE
UNLIMITED FUNDS AND SPEND
UNLIMITED FUNDS.
AND THAT IS WHAT IS TRULY
CORRUPTING.
OUR SYSTEM AB EIGHTY FOUR
RETAINS ALL THE FUND RAISING
CAPS.
UNDER EXISTING.
LAW.
THAT SOMETHING BY THE WAY THAT
THE INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE
COMMITTEES ARE NOT SUBJECT.
TO WE ARE GOING TO BE OPERATING
WITHIN THAT CONSTRUCT BABY
EIGHTY FOUR ALLOWS LEGISLATIVE
LEADERS OF BOTH PARTIES TO
RESPOND THE ESCALATION OF AYE
EASE THAT OUTSIDE CORPORATE
MONEY.
WE ARE LIVING IN A TIME WHERE A
ENORMOUSLY WEALTHY INTEREST
GROUPS ARE DIRECTING MONEY
TOWARD I USE AS WELL AS
LEVERAGING THE LEGISLATURE IN
OTHER WAYS NOT ALWAYS IN THE
BEST INTERESTS.
OF CALIFORNIANS LEADERS IN THE
LEGISLATURE ARE SEEKING WAYS TO
DEFEND AGAINST THIS OUTSIDE
MONEY.
THESE INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES
UNLEASHED BY THE CITIZENS UNITED
DECISION EIGHTY EIGHTY FOUR IS A
VERY MODEST TOOL A SMALL COUNTER.
REALLY. TWO THAT OUTSIDE
INFLUENCE I WILL STIPULATE THAT
A. B. EIGHTY FOUR'S NOT.
A PERFECT SOLUTION AND I THINK
OUR ATTENDANCE HERE HAS MADE
THAT CLEAR IT IS NOT A PERFECT
SOLUTION.
BUT IT IS BETTER THAN THE STATUS
QUO WHEN IT COMES TO DISCLOSURE.
AND TRANSPARENCY.
LET ME JUST SAY I AGREE THAT
ANYTHING SHORT OF FULL PUBLIC
FINANCING. FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT ADDRESSING CITIZENS
UNITED.
IS ONLY A PARTIAL SOLUTION AND
THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
CONSIDERING TODAY PARTIAL
SOLUTION.
BUT IN LIEU OF THOSE BIG
STRUCTURAL CHANGES I HOPE WE CAN
HAVE REASONABLE LIMITS ON
CONTRIBUTIONS WAS STRONGER
DISCLOSURE AND TRANSPARENCY OF
THE DONATIONS SO THE PUBLIC.
AND THE PRESS CAN INDEED FOLLOW
THE MONEY TO SEE HOW CAMPAIGN
MONEY IS MOVING IN STATE
LEGISLATIVE RACES AND WITH THAT
PASS FOR ABOUT.
THANK YOU [inaudible]
FOR SECRETARY.
SO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
APPROPRIATIONS BECAUSE ARGUE WE
HAVE A MOTION [inaudible]
REAL MODE.
THE MOTION FROM SENATOR HERZOG.
STERN NO STERN NO ANDERSON AYE
ANDERSON AYE ALLEN.
HERTZBERG REPLY HERTZBERG AYE
LEYVA AYE AYE LEYVA AYE.
SO WILL LEAVE THAT MEASURE ON
CALL A CURRENTLY IT'S THREE TO
ONE SO.
SERGEANTS BABY.
CALL SENATOR ALLEN STEVES AT A
TRANSPORTATION I KNOW HE'S HELD
UP OVER THERE.
FIGURES ALONE WILL LEAD A
MEASURE ON CALL.
BUT TO THOSE WHO TRAVELED UP
THANK YOU THANK YOU EVERYBODY
FOR FIGHT GOES ON AND
YEAH
.
RIGHT OPEN THE ROLES.
OF THE MOTION IS TO PASS AND
REFER TO SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE THE CURRENT VOICE
THREE TO ONE SHARE VOTING NO --
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
ALLEN NO ALLEN NO.
THREATS THREE TO THE BILL IS OUT
BY ONE VOTE --
AND IT WILL BE IN APPROPRIATIONS.
HOW WITH
THAT SAID ELECTIONS IS
GERMAN