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MORNING I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
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ATTENDANCE AND THE WELCOME TO
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THE HEARING OF THE SENATE
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COMMITTEE ON BUSINESS
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PROFESSIONS AND ECONOMIC
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DEVELOPMENT.
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SEXUAL MISCONDUCT REPORTING IN
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THE MEDICAL PROFESSION.
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MISSED OPPORTUNITIES TO PROTECT
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PATIENTS THAT'S THE TITLE OF OUR
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HEARING TODAY AND A WERE LOOKING
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TO SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND IF THERE
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ARE GAPS IN THE SYSTEM CURRENTLY
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IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS IN TERMS
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OF REPORTING.
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SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THE HEART
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OF IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
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IMPROVE THE SIGISMUND EFFORT IF
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THE SYSTEM IS FAILING US TODAY.
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I LIKE TO KNOWLEDGE OUR
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PANELISTS WHO HAVE TRAVELED TO
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SACRAMENTO TO TESTIFY ON THIS
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VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE THANK YOU
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FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU TO
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THOSE ADDRESSING THE COMMITTEE
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DURING THE PUBLIC.
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COMMENT PORTION OF TODAY'S
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HEARING.
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THIS COMMITTEE HAS A SIGNIFICANT
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HISTORY.
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OF INTEREST AND FOCUS ON
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STATUTORY REPORTING REQUIREMENTS
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DESIGNED TO INFORM HEALTH
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PRACTITIONER LICENSING BOARDS
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ABOUT POSSIBLE MATTERS OF
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INVESTIGATION.
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GIVEN THE INDISPENSABLE NATURE
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OF HEALTH CARE HIGH QUALITY
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PATIENT CARE IS VITAL.
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PATIENTS EXPECT THEIR TREATING
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PHYSICIANS AND OTHER MEDICAL
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PROFESSIONALS TO BE COMPETENT
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AND QUALIFIED IN THE COMMITTEE
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HAS LONG HELD THAT HEALTH
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PRACTITIONERS WHO FAIL. TO MEET
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ESTABLISHED PROFESSIONAL
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STANDARDS MUST BE DISCOVERED.
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REVIEWED AND DISCIPLINED AT IF
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NECESSARY IN A VERY TIMELY
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MANNER.
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EVERYTIME A BOARD THAT IS
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SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE MANDATORY.
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REPORTS COMES BEFORE US DURING
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ROUTINE SUNSET REVIEW OVERSIGHT
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WE HEAR TROUBLING STATISTICS
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ABOUT THE ACTUAL INSTANCES.
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IN WHICH BOARDS ARE BEING
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INFORMED.
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THESE BOARDS TASKED WITH PATIENT
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AND PUBLIC PROTECTION.
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OR HINDERED IN DOING THEIR JOB.
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IF THEY ARE NOT ALERTED TO THESE
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CASES AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
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DOES THE LAW NEED TO BE
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CLARIFIED.
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OUR REPORTING REQUIREMENTS TOO
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EASY TO IGNORE.
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HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT ACTION IS
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TAKEN SWIFTLY IN ORDER TO
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PROTECT PATIENTS?
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I LOOK FORWARD TO TODAY'S
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DISCUSSION IN WHICH WE EXAMINE
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WILL BE EXAMINING WHAT HOSPITALS
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AND OTHER HEALTHCARE FACILITIES
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ARE REQUIRED TO DO.
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AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY DONE.
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WHEN THEY RECEIVE COMPLAINTS OF
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MISCONDUCT AND OTHER SERIOUS
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WRONGDOING BY MEDICAL
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PROFESSIONALS --
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SO IT TO ACHIEVE AT THIS POINT
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WE HAVE NO OTHER LEGISLATORS
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WITH US THIS MORNING.
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MONDAY MORNINGS ARE ALWAYS A
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DIFFICULT TIME IN SACRAMENTO TO
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GET PEOPLE --
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HERE FROM ALL OVER THE STATE --
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BUT Y. WONDER AGAIN THANK THEM
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BUT WE WILL SEE SOME MEMBERS I'M
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SURE AS WE THE HEARING MOVES ON
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I FIRST LIKE TO INVITE OUR FIRST
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PANELIST --
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FOR SPEAKER ROLE BROWN PARTNER.
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FOX L. L. P. WHO WILL PROVIDE US
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A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF HEALTH.
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ABSOLUTELY DISCIPLINE IN THE
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REQUIRED MANDATORY REPORTING TO
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LICENSING ENTITIES SO MISTER
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BROWN WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR
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YOUR WILLINGNESS.
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TO SHARE WAS UP WITH US THIS
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MORNING SOME OF YOUR INSIGHT I
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THINK A IT WILL HELP US A FREE A
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FOUNDATION OF WHAT THE HEALTH
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CARE REQUIRED REPORTING SHOULD
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BE IN THESE CASES SO THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU CHAIRMAN HELLO AND
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GOOD MORNING I'M PLEASED TO BE
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HERE TODAY AS YOU SAID MY NAME'S
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LOWELL BROWN I'M A PARTNER WITH
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A LOT FROM IT ARENT FOX.
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AND I'VE BEEN PRACTICING IN THE
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MEDICAL STAFF PEER REVIEW AREA
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FOR THE LAST THIRTY SOME YEARS.
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HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH US WITH
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YOU ALL TODAY.
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AND AS YOU SAID OUTSIDE TO
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PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF A
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DISCIPLINE THAT THE MEDICAL
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BOARD HOW THE BOARD INTERACTS
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WITH THAT.
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HOSPITAL MEDICAL STAFF AND OTHER
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PEER REVIEW BODIES.
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SO WILL COVER GENERALLY HOW
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HEALTH PRACTITIONERS HAD --
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DISCIPLINE IS HANDLED IN THE
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STATE BY.
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BOTH THE STATE LEVEL AND AT THE
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LOCAL -- IN
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INDIVIDUAL FACILITY LEVEL.
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WHAT MEDICAL STAFF TO REVIEW
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MEANS?
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WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A PEER
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REVIEW BODY AND IMPORTANT TERM
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AND THE REPORTING SCHEME?
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ALAS WELL WATER THE DECISIONS --
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BY PEER REVIEW BUT IS IT HAVE TO
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BE REPORTED.
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AND AS YOU SAID THIS WILL BE AN
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OVERVIEW ON ATLANTIC GOING TO
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STATUTES THAT OR ANYTHING LIKE
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THAT DESCRIBE WHAT.
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WHAT I SEE AS A PRACTITIONER AND
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WHAT?
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BEGIN WITH THIS QUESTION AS SORT
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OF OUR SOMETHING TO SET THE
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STAGE WHEN I AM SITTING WITH A
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MEDICAL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AT A
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HOSPITAL.
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AND THERE SAID IN WHAT ACTION TO
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TAKE ABOUT A PARTICULAR
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PHYSICIAN.
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THE QUESTION IS ALWAYS ASKED
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WILL THIS BE REPORTABLE.
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A COME BACK IN AWHILE TO TALK
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ABOUT WHY THAT'S SUCH AN
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IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT COMES UP
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EVERY SINGLE TIME I'M NOT
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EXAGGERATING WHEN I SAY THAT.
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SO THE THE SYSTEM --
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IS SO FAR AS THE LICENSING
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BOARDS AND AND LOCAL PEER REVIEW
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BUDDIES IS CONCERNED.
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LOOKS LIKE THIS A MEDICAL BOARD.
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THERE'S AN OSTEOPATHIC BOARD TO
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PUT AFTERWARD ALSO A DENTAL
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BOARD.
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AND THE OVERSEE THE LICENSURE OF
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OF LICENSES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
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PERIOD YOU BODIES OR SOMETHING
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DIFFERENT.
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AND SO ON EXPLAINED LITTLE
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BALBOA WHAT THAT IS.
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AS A STATUTORY DEFINITION OF
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APPEAR THE BODY AND IT MEANS --
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USUALLY A HOSPITAL MEDICAL STAFF
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IS THE CLASSIC PEER REVIEW BODY
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EVERY HOSPITAL HAS A MEDICAL
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STAFF BY LAW.
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AND THEY ALL DO PEER REVIEW THAT
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REVIEW EACH OTHER'S CARE BY LAW --
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OUTSIDE OF THAT SITTING --
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APPEAR BICU BODY IS ALSO A
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COMMITTEE.
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OF A PRIVATE ENTITY.
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THAT CONSISTS OF OR EMPLOYEES
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TWENTY FIVE OR MORE LICENSE IT'S
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AT THE SAME CLASS MATTER.
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MUCH DISCUSSED SENTENCE THAT I
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JUST QUOTED TO YOU AND THAT --
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PEOPLE ASK THEMSELVES WHAT IS IT
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MEAN TO CONSIST OF WE KNOW WHAT
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IT MEANS TO EMPLOY SO THAT MEANS
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IF HAVE TWENTY FIVE POSITIONS
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TWENTY FIVE BUT I ACTRESS TWENTY
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FIVE DENTISTS [inaudible]
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AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE CARE
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THAT EACH OTHER TO ONE ANOTHER
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PROVIDES.
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THEN THAT IS A PEER REVIEW BY.
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THERE'S SOME AMBIGUITY IN THE
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STATUTE --
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AND THERE'S SOME STRUGGLING THAT
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GOES ON WITH NONTRADITIONAL.
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PROVIDERS --
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MEDICAL GROUPS CLINICS AND SO
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FORTH ARE WE APPEAR EVERYBODY OR
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NOT HOSPITALS MEDICAL STAFF
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ALWAYS KNOW THAT THERE APPEARED
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YOU BUDDY.
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SOME HEALTH PLAN SOME INSURERS
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AND SOME PROFESSIONAL SOCIETIES
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ARE ALREADY ALSO HERE YOU BODIES
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BUT BUT THE MAIN ENTITIES WERE
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TALKED ABOUT A HOSPITAL MEDICAL
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STAFFS AND LARGE MEDICAL GROUP.
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PEER REVIEW WHAT DOES PEER
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REVIEW REALLY EAN I LIKE TO
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PARAPHRASE WINSTON CHURCHILL ON
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THIS.
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AND SAY THAT THE IN A NEVER HAVE
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SO MANY UNKNOWNS SO LITTLE ABOUT
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SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT THAT THE
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PRINCESS I'M NOT CRITICIZING
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ANYONE I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT'S
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A SOMEWHAT ARCANE SUBJECT TO
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MOST OF THE PUBLIC.
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MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT
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GOES ON INSIDE OF HOSPITALS AND
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OTHER PEER REVIEW BODIES.
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THE REVIEW CARE THAT'S PROVIDED
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THERE.
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SO WHAT THAT WHAT IT MEANS
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ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE IS IS.
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TO REVIEW --
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THE QUALIFICATIONS A OUTCOMES
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AND AND THE CONDUCT
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PROFESSIONALLY OF PRACTITIONERS.
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WITH TWO GOALS FIRST IS TO
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DECIDE WHETHER THEY CAN PRACTICE
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WITHIN THAT HOSPITAL THAT
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MEDICAL GROUP WHATEVER
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ORGANIZATION IT IS IF IT'S A
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PEER REVIEW BODY.
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AND ALSO TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY
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OF CARE WAS PRETTY SIMPLE
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DEFINITION.
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NOW THIS IS HOW WHO THE
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LICENSING BOARDS IMPURITY
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BUDDIES INTERACT DO OVERALL.
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OVERARCHING GOAL OF ALL OF THIS
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IS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.
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A IN THE SENSE OF IN IN IN THE
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SET AND THE SETTING OF THEM OF
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THE LICENSING BOARDS THEY
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PROTECT THE PUBLIC GENERALLY.
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UP HERE THE BODIES PROTECT
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PATIENTS THAT ARE SEEN WITHIN
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THEM.
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SO LA A LICENSING BOARD MEDICAL
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BOARD FOR EXAMPLE DECIDES
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WHETHER OR NOT DOCTOR BROWN MAY
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EVEN HAVE A MEDICAL LICENSE AND
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UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES.
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AT THE HOSPITAL LEVEL THEY
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DECIDE WHETHER DOCTOR BROWN CAN
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SEE PATIENTS AND TO WHAT EXTENT
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WHAT PRIVILEGES CAN HE CRACK ANY --
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PRACTICES SO FORTH SO IT'S A
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MORE LOCAL DEFINITION.
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WITH A DIFFERENT STANDARD --
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THE LICENSING BOARDS RECEIVED
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REPORTS THAT CALLED EIGHT OH
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FIVE REPORTS --
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FROM PEER REVIEW BODIES WHEN
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CERTAIN ACTIONS TAKEN.
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AND THE FEAR OF GOD IS FILE
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REPORTS SO THERE'S THAT SORT OF
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FAT.
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SYMBIOTIC INTERCONNECTION
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BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.
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WHAT IS REQUIRED TO REPORT?
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AND THERE'S A FIFTEEN DAY
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DEADLINE AND AND THAT STARTS TO
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RUN.
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ON THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF CERTAIN
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ACTIONS ARE TAKEN BY PEER REVIEW
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BY.
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I WANT TO SAY A DENIAL OF AN
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APPLICATION --
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ANOTHER IS A TERMINATION
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REVOCATION OF EXISTING
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MEMBERSHIP OR PRIVILEGES.
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CERTAIN TYPES OF RESTRICTIONS IF
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THEY LAST LONG ENOUGH FOR LET'S
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SAY THEY TELL DOCTOR BROWN.
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WE KNOW YOU'RE OFF GOING
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OBSTETRICIAN THAT YOU CAN DO.
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A CAESAREAN SECTIONS.
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UNTIL IT PURSUE INFANTIL FURTHER
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NOTICE IN THE MEANTIME AT THAT
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SOMEBODY PRESENT WITH YOU WHILE
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YOU DO THEM.
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THAT WOULD BE AYE RESTRICTIONS.
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AND THEY'LL ALL OF THESE THINGS
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ARE A LOT OF THESE RESTRICTIONS
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ARE JUST DESCRIBED THAT WOULD
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NOT BE REPORTABLE THAT IF
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THEY'RE DONE.
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FOR PATIENT SAFETY REASON
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STATUTORILY THE WORDS ARE.
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AT AND MEDICAL DISCIPLINARY
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CAUSE OR REASON BUT MEANS AYE
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AYE CONCERN ABOUT PATIENT SAFETY
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SO THOSE TYPES OF ACTIONS WHEN
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THEY'RE TAKEN PER PATIENT SAFETY
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REASONS [inaudible]
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ARE REPORTABLE.
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OTHER AFFORDABLE ACTIONS WOULD
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BE -- I CALL
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THE FIRST TO THE GET OUT OF TOWN
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WHILE THE GETTING IS GOOD A RULE --
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WHEN SOMEONE RESIGNS OR TAKES A
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LEAVE OF ABSENCE WHEN THEY KNOW
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CRITICISM IS COMING THEIR WAY
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THAT'S REPORTABLE THE MEDICAL
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BOARD WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT THOSE
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THINGS THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO
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AVOID?
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DISCIPLINE OR BEING REPORTED TO
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THE BOARD BY SIMPLY GOING AWAY.
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SIMILARLY IF SOMEONE HAS APPLIED --
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TO BE A MEMBER OF THE MEDICAL
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STAFF OR TO BE RENEWED.
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AND THEY WITHDRAW THAT
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APPLICATION AND GO AWAY AFTER
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BEING TOLD THAT ACTION MIGHT BE
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COMING THEIR WAY THAT'S ALSO
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REPORTED LESS LOOPHOLES CLOSE
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SOME YEARS AGO TO TRY TO CATCH.
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THAT TYPE OF AVOIDANCE OF THE
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REPORTING SYSTEM.
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AND OTHERS DIFFERENT TYPE OF
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ACTION IS A SUMMARY SUSPENSION
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IT'S THE MOST SEVERE ACTION THAT
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APPEAR ABOUT IMPROVING BY CAN
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TAKE.
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THEY SAY THE DOCTOR AROUND YOU
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MAY NOT PRACTICE HERE AT ALL
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UNTIL THE FURTHER UNTIL FURTHER
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NOTICE --
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YOU CONSUMER TO SPEND ALL OF MY
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PRIVILEGES OR SOME OF THEM BUT
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THAT'S AT A SEVERE ACTION AND
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MUST BE REPORTED WITHIN FIFTEEN
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DAYS AFTER IT'S TAKEN.
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SO THE BOARD KNOWS ABOUT THOSE
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THINGS.
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WHAT HAPPENS IF A PEER REVIEW
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BODY FAILS TO REPORT THE
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CONSEQUENCES STATUTORILY ARE
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QUITE SERIOUS?
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THEY'RE TWO CUPS OF RIPOFF
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FAILURES A WILLFUL FAILURE IN A
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NEGLIGENT OR NON WILLFUL FAILURE --
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WILLFUL MEANS WHAT YOU THINK IT
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MIGHT MEAN --
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KNOWING THAT YOU SHOULD PROUD
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REPORT BUT NOT FINDING ONE WING
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ANYWAY.
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IT'S AT ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND
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DOLLAR FINE PER VIOLATION --
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AND ALSO FOR A POSITION SUCH AS
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THE CHIEF OF STAFF WHO SHOULD
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HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR
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HELPING FILE A REPORT --
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DOT PERSON IS SUBJECT LICENSURE
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ACTION BY THE MEDICAL BOARD
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SORTED.
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PRETTY STRINGENT A PENALTY.
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AND NEGLIGENT FAILURE REPORT
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BRINGS A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR
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FINE.
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AND WITH SIMILAR PROVISIONS AS
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WELL AS A A WILLFUL FINE.
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OUT OF THE CALCULATE THE FINES
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IF YOU IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY OR
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NEGLIGENTLY FAILED TO FGCU A
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FIRE COURTS KIND OF INSTRUCTIVE
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[inaudible]
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SEE.
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THE WAY THE BOARD --
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AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ASKED
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TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS --
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THE FINEST TO BE PROPORTIONAL TO
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THE SEVERITY OF THE FAILURE TO
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REPORT THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTE
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SAYS.
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FACTORS ARE LOOKED AT ARE THE
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THINGS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE DID DID
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THE FAILURE TO REPORT CAUSE HARM
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TO A PATIENT.
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I DID A CREATOR RISK PATIENT
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SAFETY --
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WE'RE THE PEOPLE WHO WORSE WHO
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SHOULD HAVE BEEN FILING THEIR
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REPORT --
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DILIGENT IN THE WAY THEY
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APPROACHED IT.
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THE DUE DILIGENCE STANDARD --
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SHOULD THEY HAVE GOOD DID THEY
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KNOW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT
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REPORT WOULDN'T BE FILE.
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A AND THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF NOT
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REPORTING.
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AND THAT ALSO FOR SMALL OR RURAL
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HOSPITALS THERE IS A LITTLE BIT
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MORE LEEWAY GIVEN IN TERMS OF
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DETERMINING NOT WHETHER NOT
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SOMEONE SHOULD BE FINED WHAT THE
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SIZE OF THE FINES.
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IN A BACK THAT OFTEN ASKED
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QUESTION WILL THIS BE REPORTABLE --
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WIND THEORY BICU BODIES ARE
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DECIDING WHAT TO DO ABOUT DOCTOR
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BROWN I KEEP USING MY OWN NAME
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JUST.
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BECAUSE I'M NOT A DOCTOR AND
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NOBODY WILL BE OFFENDED IF I USE
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IT --
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QUESTIONS OKAY WE'RE GOING TO DO
00:12:25.811 --> 00:12:27.346
THAT ACTS TO DOCTOR BROWN.
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IS THAT GONNA BE REPORTABLE --
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WHAT IT ASKED THAT QUESTION THE
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OTHER DAY DO THAT BECAUSE
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THEY'VE GOT A CHOICE TO MAKE
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BETWEEN?
00:12:35.855 --> 00:12:36.922
TWO PASS ONE IS THEY CAN TAKE
00:12:36.989 --> 00:12:38.390
ACTION.
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THAT MEANS I NEED TO FILE A
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REPORT WITH THE MEDICAL BOARD
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MEANS THE MEDICAL BOARD WILL
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COME TO THEM SHORTLY WITH A
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SUBPOENA.
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ASKING FOR ALL THE INFORMATION
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THEY HAVE A DOCUMENTARY AND
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OTHERWISE IT'S NOT PRIVILEGED IN
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SOME WAY --
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TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER NOT
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CONNECTICUT WHERE ALSO SHOULD
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TAKE ACTION AGAINST THE
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POSITIONS LICENSE.
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BECAUSE REMEMBER THE HOSPITAL OR
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MEDICAL STAFF.
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BOOKS IS ON THAT POSITIONS
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PRIVILEGES IN THAT BODY AND THAT
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AT ENTITY.
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THE MEDICAL WARD IS MORE
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CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER THE
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POSITION CAN PRACTICE AT ALL AND
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HAD WILL HAVE A LICENSE TO
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PRACTICE AT ALL [inaudible]
00:13:07.920 --> 00:13:11.557
A THEY ALSO ARE A BECAUSE OF THE
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INTERACTION BETWEEN SECTION
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EIGHT A FIVE MINUTE ON NINE AND
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IF I REPORT FIGURES ARE AND
00:13:15.728 --> 00:13:17.029
HEARING.
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AND THOSE HEARINGS HAVE BECOME
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LAW.
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EXPENSIVE ARDUOUS --
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PAINFUL ACRIMONIOUS --
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AND AND THE NOT THE POSITIONS
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HAVE NOTHING MORE THE LITIGATION.
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AND THE IDEA ARE GOING TO ONE OF
00:13:28.140 --> 00:13:28.974
THOSE HEARINGS WHICH OFTEN COME
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LAST YEAR BEFORE IT'S OVER.
00:13:31.610 --> 00:13:32.711
IS VERY UNAPPEALING --
00:13:32.778 --> 00:13:35.514
TO THEM.
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ALSO THEY WILL FACE A LAWSUIT
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FROM THE PHYSICIAN.
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THAT THEY TAKE ACTION AND THERE
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IS A LOT OF LAW DEVELOPING IN
00:13:41.754 --> 00:13:42.721
THAT AREA RIGHT NOW SO.
00:13:42.788 --> 00:13:44.423
IT WAS NOT AN ATTRACTIVE AVENUE
00:13:44.490 --> 00:13:45.858
TO GO DOWN DOES MEAN THEY
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SHOULDN'T GO DOWN THAT AVENUE
00:13:47.626 --> 00:13:49.261
BUT THAT'S AN ATTRACTIVE.
00:13:49.328 --> 00:13:51.063
IF THEY DON'T REPORT OR THEY SAY
00:13:51.130 --> 00:13:53.632
THEY'VE THEY PUSH THEMSELVES
00:13:53.699 --> 00:13:55.634
INTO A PRETZEL TO FIND A WAY NOT
00:13:55.701 --> 00:13:56.902
TO REPORT A PARTICULAR ACTION
00:13:56.969 --> 00:13:57.203
[inaudible]
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THEN.
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THEY'RE GONNA FACE A FINE FROM
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THE MEDICAL BOARD --
00:14:02.841 --> 00:14:03.309
THEY'RE GONNA FACE ALSO
00:14:03.375 --> 00:14:05.444
LIABILITY THE PATIENTS WHO WERE
00:14:05.511 --> 00:14:06.645
HARMED AS A RESULT OF THEIR
00:14:06.712 --> 00:14:08.514
INFECT COVERING UP WHAT HAS
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HAPPENED WITH THAT POSITION.
00:14:10.516 --> 00:14:11.784
UNLESS AND THAT HAPPENS OFTEN
00:14:11.850 --> 00:14:12.818
THAT THAT IS THAT IS WHAT
00:14:12.885 --> 00:14:14.386
HAPPENS OR WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN
00:14:14.453 --> 00:14:16.855
THAT PATH IS CHOSEN.
00:14:16.922 --> 00:14:18.757
WE THINK HAVE.
00:14:18.824 --> 00:14:20.893
IN OUR FIRM AND I THINK MOST IF
00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:22.027
NOT ALL OF THE LAWYERS WHO
00:14:22.094 --> 00:14:23.896
PRACTICE IN THE SAME AREA --
00:14:23.963 --> 00:14:25.998
THAT I DO --
00:14:26.065 --> 00:14:28.100
THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEER
00:14:28.167 --> 00:14:29.802
REVIEWERS NOT TO LIVE REPORT
00:14:29.868 --> 00:14:32.171
ABILITY DRIVE THEIR DECISION.
00:14:32.238 --> 00:14:34.173
WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT.
00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:35.441
IS BST FOR PATIENTS WITH THE
00:14:35.507 --> 00:14:37.042
BEST WAY TO PROTECT PATIENT
00:14:37.109 --> 00:14:37.876
SAFETY.
00:14:37.943 --> 00:14:39.712
AND THEN DECIDE THAT AND THAT
00:14:39.778 --> 00:14:40.879
DIRECTION ANOTHER WORDS WHEN
00:14:40.946 --> 00:14:42.681
THERE IS A WHEN THERE IS DOUBT
00:14:42.748 --> 00:14:44.149
RESOLVE THAT DOUBT IN FAVOR OF
00:14:44.216 --> 00:14:45.150
REPORTING.
00:14:45.217 --> 00:14:46.318
BECAUSE FRANKLY IT'S MUCH EASIER
00:14:46.385 --> 00:14:48.053
TO EXPLAIN.
00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:48.954
WHY YOU REPORTED IN WHY YOU
00:14:49.021 --> 00:14:50.689
DIDN'T REPORT --
00:14:50.756 --> 00:14:54.193
IF.
00:14:54.260 --> 00:14:55.027
FOR IF YOU DIDN'T REPORT YOU'VE
00:14:55.094 --> 00:14:56.762
GOT HAVE TO EXPLAIN EVENTUALLY
00:14:56.829 --> 00:14:57.930
TO THE MEDICAL BOARD IF THEY
00:14:57.997 --> 00:14:59.031
THAT THEY LEARN OF THE NON
00:14:59.098 --> 00:15:00.399
REPORT.
00:15:00.466 --> 00:15:01.166
NOT AN EASY EXPLANATION
00:15:01.233 --> 00:15:04.670
SOMETIMES TO MAKE --
00:15:04.737 --> 00:15:06.305
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PATIENT CARE?
00:15:06.372 --> 00:15:08.641
THE NUMBER ONE GOAL AND AND AND
00:15:08.707 --> 00:15:09.375
OF PEER REVIEW IS TO PROTECT
00:15:09.441 --> 00:15:10.976
PATIENTS.
00:15:11.043 --> 00:15:11.910
THE STATUTORY SCHEME IN
00:15:11.977 --> 00:15:13.078
CALIFORNIA PROVIDES A NUMBER OF
00:15:13.145 --> 00:15:15.247
IMMUNITIES AND PROTECTIONS FOR
00:15:15.314 --> 00:15:16.715
PEER REVIEWERS ES SO THAT IF YOU
00:15:16.782 --> 00:15:18.284
MAKE THAT DECISION AND ERR ON
00:15:18.350 --> 00:15:19.985
THE SIDE OF REPORTING OR TAKING
00:15:20.052 --> 00:15:21.754
ACTION THAT IS A PORTABLE.
00:15:21.820 --> 00:15:22.554
YOU'RE GONNA BE PROTECTED FOR
00:15:22.621 --> 00:15:23.289
DOING THAT UNLESS IT WAS
00:15:23.355 --> 00:15:24.890
MALICIOUS [inaudible]
00:15:24.957 --> 00:15:28.460
A IF YOU DON'T REPORT WE ALWAYS
00:15:28.527 --> 00:15:30.296
PREACHED TO OUR CLIENTS THAT THE
00:15:30.362 --> 00:15:31.263
MORALE OF YOUR MEDICAL STAFF AS
00:15:31.330 --> 00:15:32.865
WELL AS OUR NURSING AND OTHER
00:15:32.931 --> 00:15:34.500
STAFF IS GOING TO SUFFER IF IF
00:15:34.566 --> 00:15:35.534
THERE'S ANYTHING THAT EVEN LOOKS
00:15:35.601 --> 00:15:37.803
LIKE A COVER UP OR GOING EASIER.
00:15:37.870 --> 00:15:39.471
ON SOMEONE AND YOU SHOULD.
00:15:39.538 --> 00:15:40.973
AND ALSO YOU'VE GOT INCREASED
00:15:41.040 --> 00:15:42.441
LIABILITY EXPOSURE WITH YOU NOT
00:15:42.508 --> 00:15:44.209
TAKE ACTION THEN.
00:15:44.276 --> 00:15:45.210
LAWYERS ALWAYS ADVISE OUR
00:15:45.277 --> 00:15:47.446
CLIENTS TO AVOID THAT.
00:15:47.513 --> 00:15:48.347
SO.
00:15:48.414 --> 00:15:52.318
IF THE SYSTEM WORKS --
00:15:52.384 --> 00:15:53.452
PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE IT WORK
00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:55.087
THERE'S SOME AMBIGUITY IN WHAT
00:15:55.154 --> 00:15:56.722
CONSTITUTES A PEER REVIEW BODY --
00:15:56.789 --> 00:15:59.124
CAN LEAD TO SOME.
00:15:59.191 --> 00:16:00.826
QUESTIONABLE DECISIONS OR OR OR
00:16:00.893 --> 00:16:02.094
ITS DECISIONS ARE AT LEAST LOOK
00:16:02.161 --> 00:16:03.529
QUESTIONABLE.
00:16:03.595 --> 00:16:07.433
AND THEN THERE IS THE PROBLEM OF
00:16:07.499 --> 00:16:09.001
THE DISINCENTIVES I WOULD CALL
00:16:09.068 --> 00:16:10.602
THEM TO REPORTING I'M NOT SURE
00:16:10.669 --> 00:16:11.637
WHAT THE SOLUTION IS TO THAT IS
00:16:11.704 --> 00:16:12.771
THE SUBJECT OF MANY A DEBATE
00:16:12.838 --> 00:16:14.673
OVER THE YEARS.
00:16:14.740 --> 00:16:15.207
ANYWAY I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER
00:16:15.274 --> 00:16:16.775
QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY THANK
00:16:16.842 --> 00:16:17.910
YOU VERY MUCH WITH RATHER
00:16:17.976 --> 00:16:19.678
APPRECIATE THAT.
00:16:19.745 --> 00:16:22.147
THE TESTIMONY IT WAS --
00:16:22.214 --> 00:16:23.649
YOU MENTIONED PRIVILEGED
00:16:23.716 --> 00:16:25.217
INFORMATION THAT A LICENSING
00:16:25.284 --> 00:16:27.019
BOARD LIKE THE MEDICAL BOARD MAY
00:16:27.086 --> 00:16:28.620
NOT HAVE ACCESS TO EVEN UNDER
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SUBPOENA.
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WHAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF --
00:16:31.390 --> 00:16:33.425
THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION.
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PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE IS AN
00:16:34.860 --> 00:16:35.494
ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED
00:16:35.561 --> 00:16:36.929
COMMUNICATION.
00:16:36.995 --> 00:16:39.298
THEY ARE ENTITLED UNDER.
00:16:39.365 --> 00:16:41.233
SALINE AND DECISION BY THE STATE
00:16:41.300 --> 00:16:42.501
SUPREME COURT IN NINETEEN NINETY
00:16:42.568 --> 00:16:43.035
EIGHT TO HAVE JUST ABOUT
00:16:43.102 --> 00:16:45.804
EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO SEE.
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AND FOR THEIR EXAMPLES OF THE
00:16:48.006 --> 00:16:49.975
TYPES OF FACILITIES THAT DO NOT
00:16:50.042 --> 00:16:52.611
REPORT ACTIONS RELATIONS IMPORT.
00:16:52.678 --> 00:16:54.380
WELL THE MEDICAL GROUP OF SAY
00:16:54.446 --> 00:16:57.216
TWELVE FIFTEEN POSITIONS --
00:16:57.282 --> 00:16:58.751
PROBABLY IS REALLY DOING PEER
00:16:58.817 --> 00:17:00.452
REVIEW INTERNALLY THEY MIGHT BE
00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:01.320
THAT'LL FOLLOW UNDER THE
00:17:01.387 --> 00:17:03.422
STATUTORY DEFINITION IN THE PEER
00:17:03.489 --> 00:17:07.159
REVIEW BY FOR EXAMPLE --
00:17:07.226 --> 00:17:08.627
ANY LARGE ORGANIZATION AND I'M
00:17:08.694 --> 00:17:10.095
SORT OF SPECULATE I DON'T KNOW
00:17:10.162 --> 00:17:11.096
OF ANY ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS
00:17:11.163 --> 00:17:12.231
BUT IF YOU HAD AN ORGANIZATION
00:17:12.297 --> 00:17:13.766
THAT CONSISTED OF TWENTY FIVE OR
00:17:13.832 --> 00:17:14.967
MORE PHYSICIANS AND THEY WEREN'T
00:17:15.033 --> 00:17:16.902
DOING PEER REVIEW.
00:17:16.969 --> 00:17:17.469
AND THEY WOULD NOT BE A PEER
00:17:17.536 --> 00:17:19.371
REVIEW BODY.
00:17:19.438 --> 00:17:20.072
THEY WOULD BE FOOLISH BUT IT
00:17:20.139 --> 00:17:21.640
WOULDN'T HAVE HURT ANYBODY.
00:17:21.707 --> 00:17:24.076
AND AND CLINICS WOULD FIT INTO
00:17:24.143 --> 00:17:25.377
THAT SAME CLINIC WOULD YES WILL
00:17:25.444 --> 00:17:28.013
BE REPORTABLE IF FUNDS ARE
00:17:28.080 --> 00:17:28.614
TWENTY FIVE OR MORE IN AND ARE
00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:29.848
DOING HERE IF YOU WHICH THEY
00:17:29.915 --> 00:17:31.283
OUGHT TO BE DOING.
00:17:31.350 --> 00:17:32.684
IF YOU WANT TO WELCOME SENATOR
00:17:32.751 --> 00:17:34.787
RICHARD PAN TO THE TO THE
00:17:34.853 --> 00:17:35.387
HEARING THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF
00:17:35.454 --> 00:17:36.755
JAPAN.
00:17:36.822 --> 00:17:38.123
PLEASURE --
00:17:38.190 --> 00:17:40.459
PM IT SEEMS TO BE SOME ANG
00:17:40.526 --> 00:17:42.027
AMBIGUITY UNDER CURRENT LAW
00:17:42.094 --> 00:17:43.429
PERHAPS THAN DID YOU SEE ANY
00:17:43.495 --> 00:17:44.930
EASY.
00:17:44.997 --> 00:17:46.765
PLACES THAT NEED TO BE.
00:17:46.832 --> 00:17:48.634
TIGHTENED A LITTLE BIT OR MADE
00:17:48.700 --> 00:17:50.569
CLEARER THAT COULD BE THAT WERE
00:17:50.636 --> 00:17:52.504
MISSING PERHAPS IN WHICH OF THAT
00:17:52.571 --> 00:17:55.941
REPORTING I KNOW AND IN.
00:17:56.008 --> 00:17:57.576
OTHER CASES WE HAVEN'T AS AN
00:17:57.643 --> 00:17:59.011
EDUCATIONAL ESTABLISHMENT THAT
00:17:59.077 --> 00:17:59.912
TEACHING.
00:17:59.978 --> 00:18:01.547
FACILITY AND THEN YOU HAVE
00:18:01.613 --> 00:18:03.015
CLINICS AS WELL AS WELL IS THERE
00:18:03.081 --> 00:18:03.849
ANY.
00:18:03.916 --> 00:18:05.851
ANYTHING THAT USE.
00:18:05.918 --> 00:18:08.253
SEE WHERE WERE WERE NOT COVERING
00:18:08.320 --> 00:18:10.589
THE IMPORTANT AREAS OR OR WHERE
00:18:10.656 --> 00:18:12.925
YOU GO INTO THAT [inaudible]
00:18:12.991 --> 00:18:14.493
LORETTA.
00:18:14.560 --> 00:18:16.595
PEER REVIEW HEARING IN THAT
00:18:16.662 --> 00:18:19.364
QUESTION COMES UP ABOUT --
00:18:19.431 --> 00:18:20.999
REPORTER BLUR NON REPORTABLE
00:18:21.066 --> 00:18:22.835
ANTI BOY WERE FORTUNATE BECAUSE
00:18:22.901 --> 00:18:23.402
WE'RE HERE WE DON'T HAVE TO
00:18:23.469 --> 00:18:23.902
REPORT THIS [inaudible]
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BECAUSE IT'S THIS DIRECTION BUT
00:18:26.171 --> 00:18:28.040
OTHER THAN THAT DIRECTION.
00:18:28.106 --> 00:18:30.275
WELL I THINK.
00:18:30.342 --> 00:18:31.643
A CLEAR THAT HOSPITAL MEDICAL
00:18:31.710 --> 00:18:33.245
STAFF HER PURITY BODIES THAN
00:18:33.312 --> 00:18:34.880
THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND THEY
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MUST VALUE NO REPORT.
00:18:36.048 --> 00:18:38.417
THE THE GREATER AREA IS THE
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OTHER TYPE OF ORGANIZATION AND
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IT'S DEFINED AS A COMMITTEE OF
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AN ENTITY THAT CONSISTS OF OUR
00:18:45.224 --> 00:18:46.492
EMPLOYEES TWENTY FIVE OR MORE.
00:18:46.558 --> 00:18:49.161
LICENSE HITS OF THE SAME CLASS.
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AND SO CONSISTING OF IS.
00:18:53.165 --> 00:18:57.302
NOT A TERRIBLY CLEAR TERM --
00:18:57.369 --> 00:18:59.638
EMPLOYEES MORE IS CLEARER.
00:18:59.705 --> 00:19:00.239
IT'S WHY I THINK THAT THAT'S
00:19:00.305 --> 00:19:01.874
SOMETHING I'M I'M NOT HERE TO
00:19:01.940 --> 00:19:03.775
PROVIDE ANSWERS REALLY BUT I
00:19:03.842 --> 00:19:05.077
THINK IT WOULD BE A A USEFUL
00:19:05.143 --> 00:19:06.678
SUBJECT FOR THE LEGISLATURE THE
00:19:06.745 --> 00:19:08.080
SENATE TO EXAMINE --
00:19:08.146 --> 00:19:09.414
COULD SOMETHING BE DONE TO MAKE
00:19:09.481 --> 00:19:12.251
IT CLEAR. TO THOSE TYPES OF
00:19:12.317 --> 00:19:14.286
NONTRADITIONAL NON HISTORICALLY
00:19:14.353 --> 00:19:15.220
TRADITIONAL.
00:19:15.287 --> 00:19:16.822
PEER REVIEW BODIES WHAT WHAT
00:19:16.889 --> 00:19:20.058
THEIR OBLIGATIONS ARE.
00:19:20.125 --> 00:19:21.793
BECAUSE EVERY ESTABLISHMENT WITH
00:19:21.860 --> 00:19:22.394
TWENTY FIVE OR MORE HAS A PEER
00:19:22.461 --> 00:19:24.229
REVIEW.
00:19:24.296 --> 00:19:25.664
AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY
00:19:25.731 --> 00:19:26.698
SHOULD THEY SHOULD I MEAN IT'S
00:19:26.765 --> 00:19:28.634
IT'S A IT'S THE WISEST THING TO
00:19:28.700 --> 00:19:29.301
DO IF YOU HAVE THAT MANY
00:19:29.368 --> 00:19:30.636
POSITIONS PRACTICING TOGETHER
00:19:30.702 --> 00:19:31.703
YOU OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT THE
00:19:31.770 --> 00:19:33.338
CARE THEY'RE PROVIDING AND MAKE
00:19:33.405 --> 00:19:34.907
SURE THAT IT'S UP TO STANDARD.
00:19:34.973 --> 00:19:36.275
SO THEY GOT HIT DEFINITIVE HE
00:19:36.341 --> 00:19:37.776
WEAR THAT SIZE AND WE'RE NOT
00:19:37.843 --> 00:19:39.578
DOING PERIOD YOU THEY WOULDN'T
00:19:39.645 --> 00:19:40.879
FALL UNDER THAT DEFINITION.
00:19:40.946 --> 00:19:45.017
IN THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM I
00:19:45.083 --> 00:19:47.052
HAVE YES I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY.
00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:49.187
IF THERE ARE ANY SUCH ENTITIES
00:19:49.254 --> 00:19:53.492
IN EXISTENCE LET BUT THERE MAYBE.
00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:55.427
I KNOW THAT A DIFFERENT TYPES OF
00:19:55.494 --> 00:19:57.529
ORGANIZATIONS STRUGGLE WITH THIS --
00:19:57.596 --> 00:19:59.831
HOSPITALS.
00:19:59.898 --> 00:20:01.800
OFTEN HAVE A FOUNDATION THIS
00:20:01.867 --> 00:20:04.403
COMPLEX OR ARRANGEMENT FOR THEM.
00:20:04.469 --> 00:20:06.672
CONTRACTS WITH THE MEDICAL GROUP.
00:20:06.738 --> 00:20:07.873
THE MEDICAL GROUP CONSISTS OF
00:20:07.940 --> 00:20:09.174
PHYSICIANS WHO ARE ALSO ON THE
00:20:09.241 --> 00:20:11.076
HOSPITAL'S MEDICAL STAFF.
00:20:11.143 --> 00:20:12.311
AND THE QUESTION OF WHAT KIND OF
00:20:12.377 --> 00:20:13.645
PEER REVIEW IS DONE WITHIN THAT
00:20:13.712 --> 00:20:15.447
GROUP WHICH IS A SEPARATE ENTITY
00:20:15.514 --> 00:20:18.083
LEGALLY --
00:20:18.150 --> 00:20:19.384
HIS IS AN MP ISN'T AN
00:20:19.451 --> 00:20:20.586
INTERESTING ONE THAT PEOPLE ARE
00:20:20.652 --> 00:20:22.321
STILL STRUGGLING WITH IT MIGHT
00:20:22.387 --> 00:20:24.690
BE WORTH AND LEGISLATIVE INQUIRY
00:20:24.756 --> 00:20:26.391
USUALLY ANY OF THAT.
00:20:26.458 --> 00:20:30.095
DONE INTENTIONALLY TO AVOID ANY
00:20:30.162 --> 00:20:31.997
PEER REVIEW A REPORTING.
00:20:32.064 --> 00:20:33.298
I DON'T THINK LUXURY
00:20:33.365 --> 00:20:34.299
ESTABLISHMENT.
00:20:34.366 --> 00:20:36.969
A GOOD QUESTION I I SUPPOSE I
00:20:37.035 --> 00:20:37.936
HAVEN'T SEEN THAT BUT
00:20:38.003 --> 00:20:39.104
THEORETICALLY SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY
00:20:39.171 --> 00:20:40.606
WELL THAT STRUCTURE OURSELVES
00:20:40.672 --> 00:20:42.107
THIS WAY SO WE CAN AWARD.
00:20:42.174 --> 00:20:43.475
AVOID HAVING TO FILE REPORTS
00:20:43.542 --> 00:20:45.277
SAYING AND GIVE HEARINGS IS THE
00:20:45.344 --> 00:20:45.777
HEARINGS ARE UNPLEASANT
00:20:45.844 --> 00:20:47.512
EXPENSIVE.
00:20:47.579 --> 00:20:48.947
THAT MIGHT BE THAT MIGHT HAPPEN --
00:20:49.014 --> 00:20:50.816
I KNOW THAT PEOPLE --
00:20:50.882 --> 00:20:52.751
TRY TO DO ALL THEY CAN TO LEAST
00:20:52.818 --> 00:20:55.087
BE EFFICIENT IN THE WAY HEARINGS
00:20:55.153 --> 00:20:56.888
ARE PROVIDED SO FOR EXAMPLE.
00:20:56.955 --> 00:20:58.090
THE SITUATION I JUST DESCRIBED
00:20:58.156 --> 00:20:59.391
WHERE THERE'S A MEDICAL GROUP AS
00:20:59.458 --> 00:21:00.959
PART OF A HOSPITAL ORGANIZATION
00:21:01.026 --> 00:21:02.728
SEPARATE FROM THE MEDICAL STAFF.
00:21:02.794 --> 00:21:04.062
IF THE SAME PHYSICIAN IS
00:21:04.129 --> 00:21:05.797
DISCIPLINE BY BOTH.
00:21:05.864 --> 00:21:07.866
AND IF THERE.
00:21:07.933 --> 00:21:08.767
I MAY BE GETTING TOO FAR INTO
00:21:08.834 --> 00:21:09.935
THE WEEDS HERE BACK BUT IF
00:21:10.002 --> 00:21:11.737
THEY'RE IF THEY'RE CLEVER AND
00:21:11.803 --> 00:21:13.238
AND SMART THEY SHOULD HAVE SOME
00:21:13.305 --> 00:21:15.007
WAY TO HAVE A JOINT HEARING FOR
00:21:15.073 --> 00:21:16.942
THE POSITION AND BOTH ORGANIZED.
00:21:17.009 --> 00:21:17.776
THE DEVELOPING AREA OF THE LAW
00:21:17.843 --> 00:21:20.045
BECAUSE OF THE CORPORATE
00:21:20.112 --> 00:21:21.580
PRACTICE OF MEDICINE ISSUE
00:21:21.647 --> 00:21:22.781
HOSPITALS ORGANIZE THEMSELVES IN
00:21:22.848 --> 00:21:24.116
WAYS.
00:21:24.182 --> 00:21:25.384
TO WORK AROUND THAT AND THAT
00:21:25.450 --> 00:21:26.551
CREATES THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE
00:21:26.618 --> 00:21:28.286
PROVIDERS ARE NOT.
00:21:28.353 --> 00:21:29.955
SOMETIMES COMPLEX SLIP THE
00:21:30.022 --> 00:21:32.057
CRACKS UNTIED SLIP THROUGH THE
00:21:32.124 --> 00:21:34.760
CRACKS IN AND ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
00:21:34.826 --> 00:21:36.128
BUT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE
00:21:36.194 --> 00:21:38.196
IT OUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
00:21:38.263 --> 00:21:41.700
FIGURED OUT TO SOLVE OR TO AVOID
00:21:41.767 --> 00:21:43.368
WELL I THINK TO TO MAKE SURE
00:21:43.435 --> 00:21:45.103
THAT THEY THEM MY EXPERIENCE TO
00:21:45.170 --> 00:21:46.638
THEY DO COMPLY AND THEY DO THEIR
00:21:46.705 --> 00:21:48.640
IS PART OF A UNIQUE SITUATION I
00:21:48.707 --> 00:21:49.074
WANT ME.
00:21:49.141 --> 00:21:50.108
THAT I GIVE TO EXPENSIVE
00:21:50.175 --> 00:21:52.110
HEARINGS WHEN ONE WILL DO RIGHT
00:21:52.177 --> 00:21:54.413
OF COURSE THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE.
00:21:54.479 --> 00:21:55.447
DO WANT TO WELCOME SENATOR BEN
00:21:55.514 --> 00:21:56.648
ALLEN.
00:21:56.715 --> 00:21:58.116
THE AREA OF SANTA MONICA
00:21:58.183 --> 00:21:58.417
[inaudible]
00:21:58.483 --> 00:22:02.421
BEVERLY HILLS.
00:22:02.487 --> 00:22:03.455
I FOR FROM YOU SEE [inaudible]
00:22:03.522 --> 00:22:05.624
THAT'S TRUE --
00:22:05.691 --> 00:22:07.025
THERE ARE THE ARE THERE CERTAIN
00:22:07.092 --> 00:22:08.927
TYPES OF COMPLAINTS IN PEER
00:22:08.994 --> 00:22:10.028
REVIEW INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE
00:22:10.095 --> 00:22:12.631
TREATED DIFFERENTLY --
00:22:12.698 --> 00:22:14.399
FOR EXAMPLE SEXUAL MISCONDUCT
00:22:14.466 --> 00:22:16.601
ALLEGATIONS EVEN THOUGH --
00:22:16.668 --> 00:22:18.036
THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE DIRECTLY
00:22:18.103 --> 00:22:18.970
RELATED TO A COMPLAINT FROM A
00:22:19.037 --> 00:22:23.041
PATIENT.
00:22:23.108 --> 00:22:23.909
I'M IS THAT'S A VERY GOOD
00:22:23.975 --> 00:22:26.111
QUESTION SENATOR A STEP BACK AND
00:22:26.178 --> 00:22:28.480
SAY THAT --
00:22:28.547 --> 00:22:33.318
THE ALL ALL PEER REVIEW AT MUST
00:22:33.385 --> 00:22:35.754
BE FOCUSED ON PATIENT SAFETY AND
00:22:35.821 --> 00:22:37.289
SO. FOR EXAMPLE LET'S SAY YOU
00:22:37.355 --> 00:22:38.457
HAVE A PHYSICIAN WHO'S
00:22:38.523 --> 00:22:39.825
CONSIDERED DISRUPTIVE BUT
00:22:39.891 --> 00:22:40.959
DIFFICULT PERSON DIFFICULT TO
00:22:41.026 --> 00:22:42.594
WORK WITH.
00:22:42.661 --> 00:22:43.395
THAT'S NOT A GROUND FOR TAKING
00:22:43.462 --> 00:22:46.765
ACTION AGAINST HIM OR HER --
00:22:46.832 --> 00:22:47.866
YOU HAVE TO TO HIDE THE BEHAVIOR
00:22:47.933 --> 00:22:50.302
TO PATIENT SAFETY SO A SURGEON
00:22:50.368 --> 00:22:51.870
WHO YELLS AT NURSES ALL TIME
00:22:51.937 --> 00:22:53.271
THROWS INSTRUMENTS THOSE KINDS
00:22:53.338 --> 00:22:54.673
OF THINGS WE SEE IN MOVIES.
00:22:54.740 --> 00:22:56.441
WOULD BE --
00:22:56.508 --> 00:22:57.976
AFFECTING THE INTEGRITY OF THE
00:22:58.043 --> 00:22:59.411
PATIENT CARE TEAM THE ABILITY OF
00:22:59.478 --> 00:23:01.012
THE NURSES AND OTHERS TO TALK TO
00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:02.047
HIM OR HER AND SO FORTH SO THAT
00:23:02.114 --> 00:23:02.481
WOULD BE.
00:23:02.547 --> 00:23:03.749
BEHAVIOR THAT'S TIED TO PATIENT
00:23:03.815 --> 00:23:05.484
SAFETY.
00:23:05.550 --> 00:23:06.785
SEXUAL HARASSMENT --
00:23:06.852 --> 00:23:08.987
SAME PROBLEM IS A DIFFERENT TYPE
00:23:09.054 --> 00:23:10.789
OF DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR.
00:23:10.856 --> 00:23:12.257
IT -- IN THE
00:23:12.324 --> 00:23:14.726
CURRENT ERA WELL I'M I HAVE SEEN
00:23:14.793 --> 00:23:16.294
IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO THE
00:23:16.361 --> 00:23:17.863
WAY MORE ATTENTION HAS BEEN PAID
00:23:17.929 --> 00:23:19.731
TO THAT.
00:23:19.798 --> 00:23:21.700
THERE ARE MANY MORE I'M FRANKLY
00:23:21.767 --> 00:23:23.068
MAX HAVE TIME SEEING WHO ARE
00:23:23.135 --> 00:23:24.369
PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO TAKING
00:23:24.436 --> 00:23:25.504
ACTION IN THOSE CASES THAN IN
00:23:25.570 --> 00:23:29.441
THE PAST --
00:23:29.508 --> 00:23:30.041
IT'S FASCINATING TO WATCH YOU
00:23:30.108 --> 00:23:31.610
AND WHEN THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO
00:23:31.676 --> 00:23:34.412
PATIENT HARM A PATIENT SAFETY
00:23:34.479 --> 00:23:36.782
WELL IN THE HOUSE A IT'S ALMOST.
00:23:36.848 --> 00:23:38.650
NET INCOME WAS NEVER FIND A
00:23:38.717 --> 00:23:39.184
SITUATION WHERE IT DOESN'T
00:23:39.251 --> 00:23:39.684
AFFECT.
00:23:39.751 --> 00:23:41.653
THE ABILITY OF THAT HEALTH CARE
00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:43.688
TEAM TO WORK TOGETHER POSITIONS
00:23:43.755 --> 00:23:44.656
HARASSING.
00:23:44.723 --> 00:23:46.691
A STAFF MEMBERS FOR EXAMPLE OR
00:23:46.758 --> 00:23:48.627
EVEN PATIENTS WHICH IT SEEMS.
00:23:48.693 --> 00:23:50.328
A HARD TO THINK OF A SITUATION
00:23:50.395 --> 00:23:51.897
WHERE WILL HARASSMENT OR ABUSE
00:23:51.963 --> 00:23:53.565
IS GOING ON THAT DOESN'T.
00:23:53.632 --> 00:23:55.600
GIVE IS GROUNDS FOR FOR PEER
00:23:55.667 --> 00:23:57.102
REVIEW ACTION CORRECTO
00:23:57.169 --> 00:23:59.171
CORRECTIVE REPORTABLE ACTION.
00:23:59.237 --> 00:24:01.273
ISLAND YOU SEE THE SAME THINGS
00:24:01.339 --> 00:24:02.274
HAPPENING IN MEDICAL EXECUTIVE
00:24:02.340 --> 00:24:03.842
COMMITTEE SEE IN SOCIETY PEOPLE
00:24:03.909 --> 00:24:05.210
ARE WONDERING WHERE.
00:24:05.277 --> 00:24:07.045
WHETHER BEHAVIOR BY FRANKLY A
00:24:07.112 --> 00:24:07.779
MALE PHYSICIAN THAT MIGHT HAVE
00:24:07.846 --> 00:24:08.713
BEEN.
00:24:08.780 --> 00:24:09.714
OVERLOOKED TWENTY THIRTY YEARS
00:24:09.781 --> 00:24:17.155
AGO IS NOT BEING OR WITHIN.
00:24:17.222 --> 00:24:18.256
MAKE IT A QUESTION THERE
00:24:18.323 --> 00:24:18.557
[inaudible]
00:24:18.623 --> 00:24:21.293
BUT NO.
00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:22.861
THANK YOU --
00:24:22.928 --> 00:24:25.063
GUY I GUESS --
00:24:25.130 --> 00:24:26.631
SOMEONE WHO'S ACTUALLY BEEN PART
00:24:26.698 --> 00:24:28.099
OF PROCESS AND WAS ON MEDICAL
00:24:28.166 --> 00:24:29.701
STAFF --
00:24:29.768 --> 00:24:32.838
CERTAINLY I HAVE NEVER AGAIN THE
00:24:32.904 --> 00:24:34.506
ACT TOTAL NOT SAID THAT FORMAL
00:24:34.573 --> 00:24:36.041
STUDY KNOWN THAT PEOPLE NEVER
00:24:36.107 --> 00:24:38.343
STRUCTURED THEIR MEDICAL GROUP
00:24:38.410 --> 00:24:39.778
OR MEDICALIZATION IN A WAY TO
00:24:39.845 --> 00:24:41.313
TRY TO AVOID.
00:24:41.379 --> 00:24:44.683
PEER REVIEW OR TO AVOID --
00:24:44.749 --> 00:24:45.650
WELL LOOK AT PATIENT SAFETY OR
00:24:45.717 --> 00:24:47.719
QUALITY SO [inaudible]
00:24:47.786 --> 00:24:49.821
SO.
00:24:49.888 --> 00:24:51.289
AT THOUGH CONCERNED IF THERE'S
00:24:51.356 --> 00:24:53.191
ANY IMPLICATION THAT THAT THIS
00:24:53.258 --> 00:24:54.759
HAPPENING ANYWAY.
00:24:54.826 --> 00:24:55.994
ADDED MEAN.
00:24:56.061 --> 00:24:56.595
TO MAYBE IT WAS NOT CLEAR ON
00:24:56.661 --> 00:24:57.829
THAT BECAUSE I MEAN TO SAY THAT
00:24:57.896 --> 00:25:00.165
WAS HAPPENING I I DO THINK THAT.
00:25:00.232 --> 00:25:01.933
THAT -- AS
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:03.935
AS PROVIDER ORGANIZATIONS
00:25:04.002 --> 00:25:05.003
INVOLVED --
00:25:05.070 --> 00:25:06.538
AND THEIR STRUCTURES.
00:25:06.605 --> 00:25:08.039
THERE IS AN EFFORT TO TRY TO SET
00:25:08.106 --> 00:25:09.875
THEM UP IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN.
00:25:09.941 --> 00:25:11.943
COMPLY WITH THE LAW.
00:25:12.010 --> 00:25:13.278
EFFICIENTLY I SUPPOSE --
00:25:13.345 --> 00:25:15.013
BUT NOBODY I I'VE NEVER SEEN
00:25:15.080 --> 00:25:16.414
ANYBODY TRY TO STRUCTURE
00:25:16.481 --> 00:25:18.483
THEMSELVES SO THEY DON'T HAVE.
00:25:18.550 --> 00:25:19.618
TO REPORT DON'T HAVE TO DO
00:25:19.684 --> 00:25:21.786
PERIOD BECAUSE THAT'S ALL BUT I
00:25:21.853 --> 00:25:22.654
GUESS SOMEONE COULD DO THAT BUT
00:25:22.721 --> 00:25:23.421
THEY WOULD BE EXPOSING
00:25:23.488 --> 00:25:25.123
THEMSELVES A LOT OF RISK TO
00:25:25.190 --> 00:25:26.691
PATIENTS AND TO THE MEDICAL
00:25:26.758 --> 00:25:28.326
BOARD AND OTHERS.
00:25:28.393 --> 00:25:29.728
I AYE WOODS I WOULD SAY THAT
00:25:29.794 --> 00:25:31.796
ACTUALLY MADE A NEW STRUCTURES.
00:25:31.863 --> 00:25:33.798
HELLO PAUL ACTUALLY DUE TO THE
00:25:33.865 --> 00:25:35.734
CHANGING FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
00:25:35.800 --> 00:25:37.402
OF THE HEALTHCARE MARKETPLACE
00:25:37.469 --> 00:25:39.004
INCLUDING --
00:25:39.070 --> 00:25:41.773
YA MOVING TOWARD MORE SHARERS --
00:25:41.840 --> 00:25:43.041
TOWARD CAPITATION AND IT'S
00:25:43.108 --> 00:25:43.975
BETTER I MEAN THOSE ARE USUALLY
00:25:44.042 --> 00:25:47.145
IN RESPONSE [inaudible] TO THOSE
00:25:47.212 --> 00:25:48.947
TYPES OF PRESSURES ARE SAME WITH
00:25:49.014 --> 00:25:50.649
HOSPITALS ETCETERA COMPETITIVE
00:25:50.715 --> 00:25:51.783
PRESSURES.
00:25:51.850 --> 00:25:55.120
AND IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT
00:25:55.186 --> 00:25:56.454
PERHAPS NOW YOU HAVE NEW
00:25:56.521 --> 00:25:58.156
STRUCTURES OR ENTITIES.
00:25:58.223 --> 00:25:59.357
THAT THEN ALSO SAY OH IN
00:25:59.424 --> 00:26:01.259
ADDITION.
00:26:01.326 --> 00:26:02.861
TO OUR NEED TO EXIST YOU KNOW AS
00:26:02.928 --> 00:26:04.129
MEDICAL GROUPS OR OTHER TYPES OF
00:26:04.195 --> 00:26:05.830
TYPES OF STRUCTURES.
00:26:05.897 --> 00:26:06.932
AND NOW --
00:26:06.998 --> 00:26:08.633
HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO A MORE
00:26:08.700 --> 00:26:09.968
TRADITIONAL [inaudible]
00:26:10.035 --> 00:26:13.338
MODEL OF OF PEER REVIEW AND AND
00:26:13.405 --> 00:26:15.140
AND AND AND AND AND QUALITY
00:26:15.206 --> 00:26:16.341
OVERSIGHT BRIGHTENS AND THAT'S
00:26:16.408 --> 00:26:17.208
RIGHT HOUSE AND IT I THINK I
00:26:17.275 --> 00:26:19.244
THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S
00:26:19.311 --> 00:26:21.212
PROBABLY MORE OF THE ISSUE WHERE
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.081
THE EVOLUTION OF THE STRUCTURES
00:26:23.148 --> 00:26:25.050
ARE SPOTS TO THE HEALTH CARE
00:26:25.116 --> 00:26:26.017
MARKETPLACE AND VARIOUS OTHER
00:26:26.084 --> 00:26:28.186
PRESSURES --
00:26:28.253 --> 00:26:29.554
COMPETITIVE OR OTHER TYPES OF
00:26:29.621 --> 00:26:31.389
PRESSURES AND THEN.
00:26:31.456 --> 00:26:32.524
PEOPLE GO OUT WE HAVE THESE NEW
00:26:32.590 --> 00:26:35.093
STRUCTURES.
00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:37.228
DO THEY YELL WHAT ROLE DO THEY
00:26:37.295 --> 00:26:39.597
HAVE AND THE QUALITY SPACE.
00:26:39.664 --> 00:26:42.233
AND AND AND THEN WHAT KIND OF
00:26:42.300 --> 00:26:44.102
ENTITIES ARE OR COMMITTEES OR
00:26:44.169 --> 00:26:46.871
WHATEVER ELSE DO WE PUT IN PLACE --
00:26:46.938 --> 00:26:48.807
TO TO EXAMINE THOSE AND THAT'S
00:26:48.873 --> 00:26:49.908
RIGHT I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY
00:26:49.975 --> 00:26:51.409
THAT ALL OF THE CHALLENGES I'M
00:26:51.476 --> 00:26:53.244
DESCRIBING DESCRIBING --
00:26:53.311 --> 00:26:54.612
IN THE PEER REVIEW WORLD ARE BY
00:26:54.679 --> 00:26:58.316
PRODUCTS OF THE WAY MEDICAL
00:26:58.383 --> 00:27:01.419
ECONOMICS IS CHANGING.
00:27:01.486 --> 00:27:02.721
SO UPGRADE THAT QUESTION CAMETO
00:27:02.787 --> 00:27:04.255
MIND.
00:27:04.322 --> 00:27:06.157
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THOSE TWENTY
00:27:06.224 --> 00:27:07.225
FIVE OR OVER WHAT HAPPENS IN
00:27:07.292 --> 00:27:09.427
THOSE INSTITUTIONS WHETHER
00:27:09.494 --> 00:27:11.863
TWENTY FIVE OR THEIR LESS THAN --
00:27:11.930 --> 00:27:13.932
TWENTY FIVE AND IN A PERCENTAGE
00:27:13.999 --> 00:27:15.700
OF IN YOUR OPINION OFTEN ASK
00:27:15.767 --> 00:27:16.134
THAT.
00:27:16.201 --> 00:27:17.602
THE MEDICAL BOARD THIS IS WHAT
00:27:17.669 --> 00:27:18.903
IT IN YOUR OPINION.
00:27:18.970 --> 00:27:20.071
HOW MANY DID THAT UP DOES THAT
00:27:20.138 --> 00:27:21.506
APPLY -- TO
00:27:21.573 --> 00:27:23.641
WOULD YOU THINK AND WHAT HAPPENS
00:27:23.708 --> 00:27:26.344
TODAY FOR THOSE UNDER.
00:27:26.411 --> 00:27:27.312
TWENTY I'M SENATOR I DON'T
00:27:27.379 --> 00:27:29.014
REALLY KNOW HOW MANY --
00:27:29.080 --> 00:27:30.448
SMALL MEDICAL GROUPS STILL
00:27:30.515 --> 00:27:31.983
EXISTED THAT USED TO BE A
00:27:32.050 --> 00:27:33.284
STANDARD THAT HAVE FIVE
00:27:33.351 --> 00:27:34.619
ORTHOPEDIST AND THEY WOULD FORM
00:27:34.686 --> 00:27:35.920
THEIR OWN GROUP.
00:27:35.987 --> 00:27:37.355
AS CENTER PANELISTS IN ECONOMICS
00:27:37.422 --> 00:27:40.658
AT IT'S VERY VERY RARE.
00:27:40.725 --> 00:27:41.826
IT'S MOST POSITIONS ARE
00:27:41.893 --> 00:27:44.362
ORGANIZED INTO A LARGER ENTITY.
00:27:44.429 --> 00:27:45.196
WHICH I THINK IN MOST CASES
00:27:45.263 --> 00:27:47.632
WOULD CONSIST OF OR EMPLOYED
00:27:47.699 --> 00:27:49.267
TWENTY FIVE OR MORE BUT I WILL
00:27:49.334 --> 00:27:50.735
BE AN INTERESTING THING TO KNOW --
00:27:50.802 --> 00:27:51.836
BECAUSE THERE MAY BE ENTITIES
00:27:51.903 --> 00:27:53.738
THAT ARE SMALLER THAN TWENTY
00:27:53.805 --> 00:27:54.672
FIVE WHO ARE NOT DOING PERIOD
00:27:54.739 --> 00:27:57.776
YOU AND AND THAT'S NOT REPORTING --
00:27:57.842 --> 00:27:58.810
AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE
00:27:58.877 --> 00:27:59.911
LEGISLATURES INTERESTED AND I
00:27:59.978 --> 00:28:01.780
THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SO
00:28:01.846 --> 00:28:03.381
IMPORTANT TO TO RESEARCH.
00:28:03.448 --> 00:28:05.050
SO WE'RE GOOD THANK YOU
00:28:05.116 --> 00:28:05.350
[inaudible]
00:28:05.417 --> 00:28:07.285
SENATOR ALAN.
00:28:07.352 --> 00:28:10.021
VERY GOOD THANK YOU --
00:28:10.088 --> 00:28:10.688
YES A VERY DIFFERENT YEAH I KNOW
00:28:10.755 --> 00:28:12.290
I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION
00:28:12.357 --> 00:28:13.658
ACTUALLY THIS IS SOMETHING THE
00:28:13.725 --> 00:28:14.426
MEDICAL PROFESSION'S BEEN
00:28:14.492 --> 00:28:16.061
LOOKING AT AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN
00:28:16.127 --> 00:28:16.928
INVOLVED THAT.
00:28:16.995 --> 00:28:19.664
AND VARIOUS MEDICAL ASSOCIATIONS --
00:28:19.731 --> 00:28:21.433
LOOKING AT EXACTLY THIS ISSUE
00:28:21.499 --> 00:28:23.201
SOMETHING CERTAINLY MEDICAL
00:28:23.268 --> 00:28:24.002
FACTIONS ALREADY BEEN.
00:28:24.069 --> 00:28:25.737
LOOKING AT AND AND AND AND
00:28:25.804 --> 00:28:27.739
FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS.
00:28:27.806 --> 00:28:29.607
SO -- BEYOND
00:28:29.674 --> 00:28:31.342
THE LICENSING REALM BUT I MEAN
00:28:31.409 --> 00:28:33.311
JUST LOOK AT HOW ARE YOU ADDRESS
00:28:33.378 --> 00:28:35.447
THE FACT THAT YOU DO HAVE.
00:28:35.513 --> 00:28:36.648
I DO HAVE ALWAYS HAD BY THE WAY
00:28:36.714 --> 00:28:38.249
YOU HAVE WITH THEIR SMALL GROUPS
00:28:38.316 --> 00:28:39.818
OR INDIVIDUAL PRACTITIONERS WHO
00:28:39.884 --> 00:28:42.387
ARE NOT ATTACHED TO A HOSPITAL
00:28:42.454 --> 00:28:43.588
ARE NOT ATTACHED TO A LARGER
00:28:43.655 --> 00:28:45.223
ENTITY.
00:28:45.290 --> 00:28:47.058
I WAS PARTICULARLY AND A RURAL
00:28:47.125 --> 00:28:48.493
COMMUNITIES ACTUALLY WHERE YOU
00:28:48.560 --> 00:28:50.495
HAVE FEWER PRACTITIONERS.
00:28:50.562 --> 00:28:51.529
SO -- IN
00:28:51.596 --> 00:28:52.964
ANYWAYS ACTUALLY BECAUSE PEOPLE
00:28:53.031 --> 00:28:55.433
FORM LARGER MEDICAL GROUPS.
00:28:55.500 --> 00:28:56.601
PERHAPS FEWER PEOPLE ARE IN THAT
00:28:56.668 --> 00:28:58.002
SITUATION THAN THEIR BEEN AND
00:28:58.069 --> 00:28:59.404
PASSED THE WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT
00:28:59.471 --> 00:29:01.172
BASICALLY PRACTITIONERS WHO ARE
00:29:01.239 --> 00:29:02.173
NOT ATTACHED [inaudible]
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:03.741
TO LARGER [inaudible]
00:29:03.808 --> 00:29:05.543
ORGANIZATIONAL ENTITIES OTHER
00:29:05.610 --> 00:29:07.278
MORE MORE PHYSICIANS NOW AS YOU
00:29:07.345 --> 00:29:08.847
KNOW SENATOR I'M SURE.
00:29:08.913 --> 00:29:10.181
WHO ARE PRACTICING IN THEIR
00:29:10.248 --> 00:29:11.816
OFFICES THEY DON'T SEE PATIENTS
00:29:11.883 --> 00:29:13.118
IN THE HOSPITAL IN MORE SO THEY
00:29:13.184 --> 00:29:14.919
DON'T REALLY BELONG TO ANY PEER
00:29:14.986 --> 00:29:15.653
REVIEW BY THIS WATCHING WHAT
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:16.855
THEY DO?
00:29:16.921 --> 00:29:18.756
AS OPPOSED AND HIS COURAGE MORAL
00:29:18.823 --> 00:29:20.325
TESTIFY ABOUT THIS BUT PATIENTS
00:29:20.391 --> 00:29:22.460
ALSO MACOMB ANYBODY MAY COMPLAIN
00:29:22.527 --> 00:29:23.261
TO THE MEDICAL BOARD ABOUT POOR
00:29:23.328 --> 00:29:25.430
CARE SO THAT'S IT'S NOT A
00:29:25.497 --> 00:29:26.865
SYSTEMATIC IS THE PEER REVIEW
00:29:26.931 --> 00:29:27.765
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S
00:29:27.832 --> 00:29:29.334
THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY WAY
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.436
THAT THOSE TYPES OF THE PROMISE
00:29:31.503 --> 00:29:31.736
FOR THOSE.
00:29:31.803 --> 00:29:32.937
THAT'S A POSITION WOULD EVER BE
00:29:33.004 --> 00:29:36.508
REPORTED TO THE BOARD.
00:29:36.574 --> 00:29:37.876
YEAH AND AND I WOULD ALSO STATE
00:29:37.942 --> 00:29:39.477
THAT PROBABLY --
00:29:39.544 --> 00:29:39.978
COMPARED TO OTHER HEALTH
00:29:40.044 --> 00:29:43.214
PROFESSIONALS.
00:29:43.281 --> 00:29:44.149
BY A BIGGER ISSUE AND SOME OF
00:29:44.215 --> 00:29:45.783
THE OTHER HEALTH PROFESSIONS
00:29:45.850 --> 00:29:46.084
[inaudible]
00:29:46.151 --> 00:29:51.756
COULD BE.
00:29:51.823 --> 00:29:53.691
WELL IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER HEALTH
00:29:53.758 --> 00:29:54.993
PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE --
00:29:55.059 --> 00:29:56.694
OTHER MORE INDEPENDENT HEALTH
00:29:56.761 --> 00:29:58.963
PROFESSIONALS SO NO WE LICENSE
00:29:59.030 --> 00:30:01.032
NOW ONLY POSITIONS AND DENNIS WE
00:30:01.099 --> 00:30:01.566
ALSO LICENSE CHIROPRACTORS
00:30:01.633 --> 00:30:03.001
NATURAL PATHS.
00:30:03.067 --> 00:30:05.570
DOCTORS ETCETERA --
00:30:05.637 --> 00:30:07.305
POSITIONS AND THEY'RE PROBABLY
00:30:07.372 --> 00:30:08.339
MORE.
00:30:08.406 --> 00:30:09.807
AND LARGER ENTITIES THAN MANY OF
00:30:09.874 --> 00:30:10.542
THESE OTHER TYPES OF
00:30:10.608 --> 00:30:14.012
PRACTITIONERS.
00:30:14.078 --> 00:30:14.612
WE'RE GOOD THANK YOU THAT YOU
00:30:14.679 --> 00:30:15.413
CAN.
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:16.614
AND ALSO I WANT TO WELCOME
00:30:16.681 --> 00:30:18.349
SENATOR ALAN TO OUR COMMITTEE
00:30:18.416 --> 00:30:19.751
THE BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS TO
00:30:19.817 --> 00:30:21.452
ME THIS IS HIS FIRST APPEARANCE
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:22.754
IN JEWISH FESTA.
00:30:22.820 --> 00:30:24.189
A SIGN THAT HELL OF AN AGENDA
00:30:24.255 --> 00:30:25.156
YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL ROLE
00:30:25.223 --> 00:30:26.658
OFFENSE YOU USE IT WILL GO ALL
00:30:26.724 --> 00:30:28.226
DAY TODAY --
00:30:28.293 --> 00:30:29.661
THANK YOU MISTER BROWN THANK YOU
00:30:29.727 --> 00:30:31.829
VERY MUCH WELCOME ANY FINAL
00:30:31.896 --> 00:30:33.031
THOUGHTS COME TO MIND NO IT'S
00:30:33.097 --> 00:30:34.933
BEEN AN HONOR AND WISH YOU ALL
00:30:34.999 --> 00:30:36.968
LUCK IN HAPPY TO HELP IN ANY WAY
00:30:37.035 --> 00:30:37.835
WE CAN ONLY IF YOU HAVE THIS IS
00:30:37.902 --> 00:30:39.103
VERY HELPFUL INFORMATION SO
00:30:39.170 --> 00:30:39.370
THANK YOU.
00:30:39.437 --> 00:30:40.838
VERY MUCH.
00:30:40.905 --> 00:30:43.074
IN OUR LIKE TO INVITE UP --
00:30:43.141 --> 00:30:44.309
KIMBERLY KIRK MAIER THE
00:30:44.375 --> 00:30:46.010
EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE MEDICAL
00:30:46.077 --> 00:30:47.579
BOARD OF CALIFORNIA.
00:30:47.645 --> 00:30:49.781
AND I THINK SCOTT THE VONAGE YOU
00:30:49.847 --> 00:30:50.982
SESSION ASSISTANT DEPUTY
00:30:51.049 --> 00:30:52.283
DIRECTOR CENTER FOR HEALTH CARE
00:30:52.350 --> 00:30:53.785
QUALITY FOR THE CALIFORNIA
00:30:53.851 --> 00:30:54.219
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
00:30:54.285 --> 00:30:54.519
[inaudible]
00:30:54.586 --> 00:30:56.688
HEALTH.
00:30:56.754 --> 00:30:57.288
AS WELL AS OTHER SHOULD THANK
00:30:57.355 --> 00:31:07.165
YOU VERY MUCH.
00:31:07.232 --> 00:31:08.066
WELL GOOD MORNING GOOD MORNING
00:31:08.132 --> 00:31:09.767
I'M CHAIRMAN HELEN MEMBERS OF
00:31:09.834 --> 00:31:11.002
THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS
00:31:11.069 --> 00:31:12.437
KIMBERLY KIRK MAYER HAS COME
00:31:12.503 --> 00:31:14.005
SENATOR HILL STATED AND I AM THE
00:31:14.072 --> 00:31:14.839
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
00:31:14.906 --> 00:31:16.507
MEDICAL BOARD OF CALIFORNIA.
00:31:16.574 --> 00:31:18.042
WITH ME HERE TODAY IS CARRY WEB
00:31:18.109 --> 00:31:19.577
STAFF COUNCIL AT THE MEDICAL
00:31:19.644 --> 00:31:21.045
BOARD AND JANE TAX SIMON
00:31:21.112 --> 00:31:22.080
SUPERVISING DEPUTY ATTORNEY
00:31:22.146 --> 00:31:23.481
GENERAL FROM THE ATTORNEY
00:31:23.548 --> 00:31:24.582
GENERAL'S OFFICE.
00:31:24.649 --> 00:31:25.717
AND THEY'RE BOTH HERE TO ASSIST
00:31:25.783 --> 00:31:26.818
WITH ANY QUESTIONS THE MEMBERS
00:31:26.884 --> 00:31:29.020
MAY HAVE AFTER MY PRESENTATION
00:31:29.087 --> 00:31:30.121
IN AND AFTER THE PANEL.
00:31:30.188 --> 00:31:31.356
SO AGAIN THANK YOU FOR ASKING
00:31:31.422 --> 00:31:32.523
THE MEDICAL BOARD TO ATTEND
00:31:32.590 --> 00:31:34.425
TODAY'S MEETING AND ALLOWING US
00:31:34.492 --> 00:31:35.360
TO PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE WITH
00:31:35.426 --> 00:31:36.728
BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE
00:31:36.794 --> 00:31:38.196
REPORTING REQUIRED UNDER
00:31:38.263 --> 00:31:39.864
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS CODE.
00:31:39.931 --> 00:31:41.933
SECTIONS BOTH EIGHT OH FIVE AND
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:43.067
EIGHT OH FIVE POINT.
00:31:43.134 --> 00:31:44.369
ONE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS THE
00:31:44.435 --> 00:31:45.837
NUMBER OF EIGHT OH FIVE REPORTS
00:31:45.903 --> 00:31:48.139
FILED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION
00:31:48.206 --> 00:31:50.008
HAS ACTUALLY FLUCTUATED FROM AS
00:31:50.074 --> 00:31:51.776
HIGH AS A HUNDRED AND THIRTY
00:31:51.843 --> 00:31:54.045
EIGHT IN FISCAL YEARS
00:31:54.112 --> 00:31:55.380
200-072-0008. TO THE LOWEST THAT
00:31:55.446 --> 00:32:01.052
NINETY ONE WHICH IS. EIGHT OH
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:02.620
FIVE POINT OH ONE REPORTS BEGAN
00:32:02.687 --> 00:32:05.723
TO BE REQUIRED IN JANUARY.
00:32:05.790 --> 00:32:06.357
TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN AND THEN IN
00:32:06.424 --> 00:32:08.293
FISCAL YEAR TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:08.860
TWELVE WE RECEIVED SIXTEEN
00:32:08.926 --> 00:32:10.361
REPORTS.
00:32:10.428 --> 00:32:11.596
THESE REPORTS AGAIN HAVE ALSO
00:32:11.663 --> 00:32:13.164
FLUCTUATED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL
00:32:13.231 --> 00:32:14.732
YEARS AND IN THE LAST FISCAL
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:16.401
YEAR I'M ONLY EIGHT REPORTS WERE
00:32:16.467 --> 00:32:18.469
RECEIVED.
00:32:18.536 --> 00:32:20.004
BASED UPON THE LOW NUMBER OF ITO
00:32:20.071 --> 00:32:22.740
FIVE REPORTS RECEIVED IN ITS TWO
00:32:22.807 --> 00:32:23.541
THOUSAND SIXTEEN I'M SUNSET
00:32:23.608 --> 00:32:24.676
REPORT THE BOARD REQUEST THAT
00:32:24.742 --> 00:32:26.444
THE LEGISLATURE CONSIDER ADDING
00:32:26.511 --> 00:32:28.379
PENALTIES FOR FAILURE TO FILE A
00:32:28.446 --> 00:32:29.814
NATO FIVE POINT ONE REPORT.
00:32:29.881 --> 00:32:31.015
AND SENATE I'M JUST GONNA GIVE
00:32:31.082 --> 00:32:32.116
ME I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MAYBE
00:32:32.183 --> 00:32:33.318
PART OF MISTER BROWN'S ON
00:32:33.384 --> 00:32:35.453
PRESENTATION BUT IT A FIVE POINT
00:32:35.520 --> 00:32:36.821
OH ONE REPORTS REPORTS THAT
00:32:36.888 --> 00:32:38.122
ACTUALLY COME IN AFTER AN
00:32:38.189 --> 00:32:39.824
INFORMAL INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN
00:32:39.891 --> 00:32:40.992
COMPLETED.
00:32:41.059 --> 00:32:43.194
BUT PRIOR TO THE ENTITY ACTUALLY
00:32:43.261 --> 00:32:44.796
TAKING ANY OF THE ACTION.
00:32:44.862 --> 00:32:47.298
AND IT'S ONLY ON CERTAIN --
00:32:47.365 --> 00:32:49.600
ELEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN SO
00:32:49.667 --> 00:32:50.702
IT WOULD BE --
00:32:50.768 --> 00:32:52.170
IF THERE WAS GROSS NEGLIGENCE
00:32:52.236 --> 00:32:53.171
RANK CONFIDENCE --
00:32:53.237 --> 00:32:55.173
OR REPEATED DEVIATION FROM THE
00:32:55.239 --> 00:32:57.342
STANDARD OF CARE WITH THEM DEATH
00:32:57.408 --> 00:32:59.210
OR SERIOUS BODILY INJURY AND THE
00:32:59.277 --> 00:33:00.511
USE OF PRESCRIBING OR
00:33:00.578 --> 00:33:01.446
ADMINISTERING CONTROLLED
00:33:01.512 --> 00:33:03.247
SUBSTANCES SO BASICALLY I'M
00:33:03.314 --> 00:33:04.782
IMPAIRMENT OF THE PHYSICIAN.
00:33:04.849 --> 00:33:05.783
REPEATED ACTS OF CLEARLY
00:33:05.850 --> 00:33:07.552
EXCESSIVE PRESCRIBING AND THEN
00:33:07.618 --> 00:33:09.454
ALSO SEXUAL MISCONDUCT SO FOR
00:33:09.520 --> 00:33:10.988
THOSE FOR INTO THE FOR THE FOR
00:33:11.055 --> 00:33:12.223
THOSE POOR VIOLATIONS.
00:33:12.290 --> 00:33:13.391
IF THERE IS FOUND THAT THEY'RE
00:33:13.458 --> 00:33:14.726
GOING TO BE TAKING ACTION THEN
00:33:14.792 --> 00:33:16.361
ACTUALLY HAVE TO REPORT BEFORE
00:33:16.427 --> 00:33:17.562
THE EIGHT OH FIVE COMES IN SO
00:33:17.628 --> 00:33:19.430
IT'S A PRE EIGHT OH FIVE REPORT
00:33:19.497 --> 00:33:21.265
THAT WE RECEIVED SO I JUST WANT
00:33:21.332 --> 00:33:25.103
TO CLARIFY THAT SINCE THAT
00:33:25.169 --> 00:33:25.470
WASN'T COULD DO.
00:33:25.536 --> 00:33:26.637
WHEN IN?
00:33:26.704 --> 00:33:27.305
SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING WOULD YOU
00:33:27.372 --> 00:33:27.972
FIND IN THE FLUCTUATIONS BETWEEN
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:29.540
THE TWO FIVE EIGHT FIVE POINT --
00:33:29.607 --> 00:33:31.275
ONE ZERO IS THE THRESHOLD TO
00:33:31.342 --> 00:33:33.344
REPORTING TO HIGH.
00:33:33.411 --> 00:33:34.412
I'M.
00:33:34.479 --> 00:33:35.747
I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE SO I
00:33:35.813 --> 00:33:38.049
THINK THAT RIGHT NOW I DON'T
00:33:38.116 --> 00:33:39.050
THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING ALL OF
00:33:39.117 --> 00:33:40.218
THE EIGHT TO FIVE POINT OH ONE
00:33:40.284 --> 00:33:41.052
REPORTS.
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:41.719
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE EIGHT
00:33:41.786 --> 00:33:46.224
OH FIVE REAP.
00:33:46.290 --> 00:33:48.726
I OF THE ADA FIVE POINT OH ONE
00:33:48.793 --> 00:33:49.627
REPORT SHOULD I LET REPORT WE
00:33:49.694 --> 00:33:50.261
SHOULD BE GETTING THOSE REPORTS
00:33:50.328 --> 00:33:51.396
AND SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT
00:33:51.462 --> 00:33:52.764
WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AND
00:33:52.830 --> 00:33:53.564
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT.
00:33:53.631 --> 00:33:57.034
A BIT LATER ON I'M THESE REPORTS
00:33:57.101 --> 00:33:58.035
I JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE
00:33:58.102 --> 00:33:58.469
WAS NOW.
00:33:58.536 --> 00:34:01.105
I'M SO THAT ACTUALLY BASED ON
00:34:01.172 --> 00:34:02.039
THE LOW REPORTING A MEAL FIVE
00:34:02.106 --> 00:34:03.841
REPORTS AND WE DECIDED THAT
00:34:03.908 --> 00:34:05.910
THERE SHOULD BE PENALTIES FOR
00:34:05.977 --> 00:34:06.878
FAILING TO FILE IN A TO FIVE
00:34:06.944 --> 00:34:08.146
POINT OH ONE REPORT.
00:34:08.212 --> 00:34:09.447
AND THE LEGISLATURE LAST YEAR
00:34:09.514 --> 00:34:10.248
WAS ACTUALLY PART OF OUR SENSE
00:34:10.314 --> 00:34:11.916
THAT REVIEW REPORT THAT WE
00:34:11.983 --> 00:34:13.451
REQUESTED PENALTIES FOR THAT.
00:34:13.518 --> 00:34:14.786
AND THE LEGISLATURE PASSED SUCH
00:34:14.852 --> 00:34:16.354
A BILL AND IT BECAME EFFECTIVE
00:34:16.421 --> 00:34:17.722
IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR I'M
00:34:17.789 --> 00:34:19.157
ALLOWING THE BOARD TO NOW ISSUE
00:34:19.223 --> 00:34:21.092
MONETARY PENALTIES ALSO FOR
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:22.493
FAILING TO FILE THAT A TO FIVE
00:34:22.560 --> 00:34:23.394
POINT OWN REPORT SO IT'S THE
00:34:23.461 --> 00:34:25.263
SAME PENALTIES THAT MISTER BROWN
00:34:25.329 --> 00:34:26.164
SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER.
00:34:26.230 --> 00:34:27.832
UNFORTUNATELY THE BOARD HAS NO
00:34:27.899 --> 00:34:29.000
WAY OF KNOWING HOW MANY IT'LL
00:34:29.067 --> 00:34:30.168
FIVE OR EIGHT OH FIVE POINT OH
00:34:30.234 --> 00:34:31.402
ONE REPORT SHOULD BE SUBMITTED
00:34:31.469 --> 00:34:33.004
TO THE BOARD. TO ASSIST IN
00:34:33.070 --> 00:34:34.272
DETERMINING OF ALL REPORTS ARE
00:34:34.338 --> 00:34:35.606
RECEIVED TO THE BOARD HERE LEE
00:34:35.673 --> 00:34:37.642
COMPARES INFORMATION FROM THE
00:34:37.708 --> 00:34:38.242
NATIONAL PRACTITIONER STATE A
00:34:38.309 --> 00:34:39.143
BANK.
00:34:39.210 --> 00:34:40.378
WHO ALSO RECEIVE PEER REVIEW
00:34:40.445 --> 00:34:43.047
ACTION WITHOUT THE BOARD WITH
00:34:43.114 --> 00:34:44.749
THE BOARD STATED TO DETERMINE IF
00:34:44.816 --> 00:34:45.950
THE DATA BANK RECEIVED ANY PEER
00:34:46.017 --> 00:34:47.485
REVIEW ACTIONS THAT THE BOARD
00:34:47.552 --> 00:34:49.053
DID NOT RECEIVE?
00:34:49.120 --> 00:34:49.954
SO FAR THE BOARD HAS NOT
00:34:50.021 --> 00:34:51.289
IDENTIFIED ANY SIGNIFICANT
00:34:51.355 --> 00:34:52.757
DIFFERENCES AND WHEN IT DOES IT
00:34:52.824 --> 00:34:54.759
INVESTIGATES Y. THE FACILITY DID
00:34:54.826 --> 00:34:56.494
NOT REPORT. TO THE BOARD THOUGH
00:34:56.561 --> 00:34:57.995
THIS ASSIST THE BOARD THE DATA
00:34:58.062 --> 00:35:00.031
BANK ALSO DOES NOT KNOW IF THEY
00:35:00.097 --> 00:35:01.866
DID NOT RECEIVE A REPORT.
00:35:01.933 --> 00:35:03.868
IN ADDITION AND BOTH ITS TWO
00:35:03.935 --> 00:35:04.902
THOUSAND TWELVE IN TWO THOUSAND
00:35:04.969 --> 00:35:06.437
SIXTEEN SUNSET REVIEW REPORT.
00:35:06.504 --> 00:35:08.139
REPORTS THE BOARD ALSO SUGGESTED
00:35:08.206 --> 00:35:09.474
THAT THE LEGISLATURE CONSIDER
00:35:09.540 --> 00:35:10.842
REQUIRING THE DEPARTMENT OF
00:35:10.908 --> 00:35:12.310
PUBLIC HEALTH AND CALIFORNIA
00:35:12.376 --> 00:35:14.378
HOSPITAL ACCREDITING AGENCIES TO
00:35:14.445 --> 00:35:15.680
SEND REPORT A BOOK REVIEW
00:35:15.746 --> 00:35:16.547
INCIDENTS.
00:35:16.614 --> 00:35:18.049
FOUND DURING AN INSPECTION OF
00:35:18.115 --> 00:35:19.717
THE FACILITY TO THE BOARD.
00:35:19.784 --> 00:35:21.152
ONLY THE CDP AGENT OTHER
00:35:21.219 --> 00:35:22.653
HOSPITAL ACCREDITING AGENCIES
00:35:22.720 --> 00:35:23.988
HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO INSPECT
00:35:24.055 --> 00:35:25.423
HOSPITALS AND REVIEW THOSE
00:35:25.490 --> 00:35:26.891
HOSPITAL RECORDS.
00:35:26.958 --> 00:35:28.259
IF THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
00:35:28.326 --> 00:35:29.494
PUBLIC HEALTH HOW TO SEND
00:35:29.560 --> 00:35:30.895
INFORMATION TO THE BOARD WHEN IT
00:35:30.962 --> 00:35:32.630
FOUND A HOSPITAL TOOK ACTION
00:35:32.697 --> 00:35:33.631
AGAINST A POSITION OR SHOULD
00:35:33.698 --> 00:35:35.233
HAVE TAKEN ACTION.
00:35:35.299 --> 00:35:36.167
IT WOULD ALLOW THE BOARD TO
00:35:36.234 --> 00:35:37.301
REVIEW THE INFORMATION AND
00:35:37.368 --> 00:35:39.370
DETERMINE IF IN EIGHT OH FIVE OR
00:35:39.437 --> 00:35:40.171
EIGHT TO FIVE POINT OH ONE
00:35:40.238 --> 00:35:41.239
REPORT WAS RECEIVED FROM THE
00:35:41.305 --> 00:35:42.540
FACILITY.
00:35:42.607 --> 00:35:44.542
IF THE BOARD DID NOT RECEIVE THE
00:35:44.609 --> 00:35:45.176
APPROPRIATE REPORTING THE BOARD
00:35:45.243 --> 00:35:46.277
WOULD ISSUE US BUYING TO THE
00:35:46.344 --> 00:35:47.945
ENTITY AND THEN BUT ALSO BE ABLE
00:35:48.012 --> 00:35:48.679
TO INVESTIGATE THE ACTIONS OF
00:35:48.746 --> 00:35:50.414
THE PHYSICIAN.
00:35:50.481 --> 00:35:51.482
THAT'S IMPROVING CONSUMER
00:35:51.549 --> 00:35:53.251
PROTECTION TO DATE THERE HAS NOT
00:35:53.317 --> 00:35:54.619
BEEN ANY BILL PASSED TO INCLUDE
00:35:54.685 --> 00:35:56.454
THIS REQUIREMENT.
00:35:56.521 --> 00:35:57.788
THE ONLY OTHER WAY THE BOARD CAN
00:35:57.855 --> 00:35:59.624
ACTUALLY IDENTIFY IF AN ENTITY
00:35:59.690 --> 00:36:01.259
DID NOT REPORT AS REQUIRED.
00:36:01.325 --> 00:36:03.461
IS IF IT IS DETERMINED DURING AN
00:36:03.528 --> 00:36:04.662
INVESTIGATION OF A PHYSICIAN AT
00:36:04.729 --> 00:36:05.830
THAT AN ENTITY TOOK ACTION
00:36:05.897 --> 00:36:07.131
AGAINST A POSITION ON THE BOARD
00:36:07.198 --> 00:36:08.332
WAS NOT NOTIFIED AND THAT WILL
00:36:08.399 --> 00:36:09.867
HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TIME AS WERE
00:36:09.934 --> 00:36:11.102
INVESTIGATING.
00:36:11.168 --> 00:36:12.503
LOOKING INTO POSITIONS ACTION
00:36:12.570 --> 00:36:14.105
MAY BE RECEIVED A PUBLIC --
00:36:14.171 --> 00:36:15.606
PICK PATIENT COMPLAIN WHAT WE'RE
00:36:15.673 --> 00:36:20.945
LOOKING AT BUT ALSO WHERE THERE.
00:36:21.012 --> 00:36:23.314
WORKING A PRACTICE.
00:36:23.381 --> 00:36:24.815
IN TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN THE
00:36:24.882 --> 00:36:25.683
BOARD WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEY
00:36:25.750 --> 00:36:26.751
GENERAL'S OFFICE IN SAN
00:36:26.817 --> 00:36:28.119
FRANCISCO BEGAN TAKING AN
00:36:28.185 --> 00:36:29.220
AGGRESSIVE APPROACH TO LOOKING
00:36:29.287 --> 00:36:30.655
AT FACILITIES THAT MAY NOT HAVE
00:36:30.721 --> 00:36:32.156
REPORTED TO THE BOARD.
00:36:32.223 --> 00:36:32.924
ALL THE HEALTH QUALITY
00:36:32.990 --> 00:36:34.926
INVESTIGATION UNIT OFFICES KNOW
00:36:34.992 --> 00:36:35.760
THAT IF THEY DETERMINED DURING
00:36:35.826 --> 00:36:37.261
THEIR INVESTIGATION THAT AN
00:36:37.328 --> 00:36:38.529
ENTITY DIDN'T REPORT.
00:36:38.596 --> 00:36:39.530
THEY LET THE BOARD KNOW WHEN A
00:36:39.597 --> 00:36:40.665
CASE IS OPEN AGAINST THAT
00:36:40.731 --> 00:36:42.133
FACILITY.
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:43.501
IN ADDITION THE BOARD REVIEWS
00:36:43.568 --> 00:36:44.835
EACH EIGHT OH FIVE NATO FIVE
00:36:44.902 --> 00:36:45.937
POINT OH ONE REPORT THAT IS
00:36:46.003 --> 00:36:46.904
RECEIVED TO DETERMINE IF THE
00:36:46.971 --> 00:36:48.573
ENTITY PROVIDED THE INFORMATION
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:49.974
TIMELY.
00:36:50.041 --> 00:36:51.642
AS REQUIRED IN LA AND ALSO IF
00:36:51.709 --> 00:36:53.144
THE REQUIRED IN FOR ALL OF THE
00:36:53.210 --> 00:36:54.845
INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED.
00:36:54.912 --> 00:36:57.148
THE BARD ALSO LOOKS AT ALL
00:36:57.214 --> 00:36:57.848
EIGHT OH FIVE REPORTS TO
00:36:57.915 --> 00:36:59.150
DETERMINE IF IN EIGHT OH FIVE
00:36:59.216 --> 00:37:00.418
REPORT OAK POINT NO ONE REPORT
00:37:00.484 --> 00:37:01.686
SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.
00:37:01.752 --> 00:37:02.720
THE BOARD HAS BEGUN SENDING
00:37:02.787 --> 00:37:04.655
WARNING LETTERS TO FACILITIES
00:37:04.722 --> 00:37:05.356
WHO MAY NOT HAVE PROVIDED ALL OF
00:37:05.423 --> 00:37:07.491
THE INFORMATION AND THEN ALSO
00:37:07.558 --> 00:37:09.193
I'M REFERRING IN SOME OF THESE
00:37:09.260 --> 00:37:10.728
CASES TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
00:37:10.795 --> 00:37:11.996
OFFICE FOR REVIEW AND ACTION
00:37:12.063 --> 00:37:13.898
WHEN THAT IS APPROPRIATE.
00:37:13.965 --> 00:37:15.032
THE ADDITION OF BUSINESS AND
00:37:15.099 --> 00:37:16.701
PROFESSIONS CODE SECTION EIGHT A
00:37:16.767 --> 00:37:18.436
FIVE POINT OAKLAND WAS INTENDED
00:37:18.502 --> 00:37:19.270
TO PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH
00:37:19.337 --> 00:37:20.438
INFORMATION ABOUT A PHYSICIAN
00:37:20.504 --> 00:37:21.906
WHO MAYBE A DANGER TO THE PUBLIC
00:37:21.973 --> 00:37:23.474
AT AN EARLIER STAGE.
00:37:23.541 --> 00:37:24.475
THE EIGHT OH FIVE POINT ONE
00:37:24.542 --> 00:37:26.043
REPORT IS ONLY REQUIRED AS I
00:37:26.110 --> 00:37:27.545
STATED FOR CERTAIN AND TO
00:37:27.612 --> 00:37:28.879
CERTAIN VIOLATION TYPES.
00:37:28.946 --> 00:37:30.881
BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE REPORTED
00:37:30.948 --> 00:37:32.783
PRIOR TO THE ACTION BEING TAKEN.
00:37:32.850 --> 00:37:34.552
THE REPORTING UNDER SECTION
00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:35.653
EIGHT OH FIVE OCCURS AFTER THE
00:37:35.720 --> 00:37:36.787
ACTION IS TAKEN AND IN SOME
00:37:36.854 --> 00:37:38.723
INSTANCES AS MR BROWN STATED
00:37:38.789 --> 00:37:40.424
AFTER A LENGTHY HEARING.
00:37:40.491 --> 00:37:42.259
HOWEVER EIGHT OH FIVE POINT OH
00:37:42.326 --> 00:37:43.594
ONE IS NOT BEING UTILIZED AM IF
00:37:43.661 --> 00:37:44.996
IT IS NOT BEING UTILIZED THE
00:37:45.062 --> 00:37:45.963
BOARD IS STILL UNAWARE OF THE
00:37:46.030 --> 00:37:47.798
PHYSICIANS ACTION.
00:37:47.865 --> 00:37:48.532
THE BOARD WORKED WITH THE
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:49.800
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
00:37:49.867 --> 00:37:51.235
PUBLIC HEALTH TO SEND OUT AN ALL
00:37:51.302 --> 00:37:52.870
FACILITIES LETTER TO THOSE
00:37:52.937 --> 00:37:55.373
ENTITIES LICENSE WITH CTP. EIGHT
00:37:55.439 --> 00:37:56.207
TO INFORM THEM OF THE NEW
00:37:56.273 --> 00:37:57.341
PENALTIES SO EFFECTIVE IN
00:37:57.408 --> 00:37:58.676
JANUARY OF THIS YEAR AND THE
00:37:58.743 --> 00:38:00.044
NEED TO REPORT.
00:38:00.111 --> 00:38:01.479
THE BOARD WILL DETERMINE AS
00:38:01.545 --> 00:38:04.048
STATUS COLLECTED FOR FISCAL YEAR
00:38:04.115 --> 00:38:04.582
SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN IF THIS
00:38:04.649 --> 00:38:05.416
INCREASED ATTENTION TO REPORTING
00:38:05.483 --> 00:38:07.385
HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE.
00:38:07.451 --> 00:38:08.452
THE BOARD IS AWARE THAT
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:10.187
SOMETIMES ENTITIES DO NOT WANT
00:38:10.254 --> 00:38:11.489
TO REPORT ACTIONS TO THE MEDICAL
00:38:11.555 --> 00:38:12.923
BOARD.
00:38:12.990 --> 00:38:13.924
THE BOARD BELIEVES THAT SOME OF
00:38:13.991 --> 00:38:15.593
THE REASONS ENTITIES DO NOT
00:38:15.660 --> 00:38:17.395
REPORT STEMS FROM THE DEFINITION
00:38:17.461 --> 00:38:18.663
OF THE MEDICAL DISCIPLINARY
00:38:18.729 --> 00:38:20.998
CAUSE OR REASON. FOUR EIGHT OH
00:38:21.065 --> 00:38:21.866
FIVE REPORTING THAT ACTION MUST
00:38:21.932 --> 00:38:22.933
BE TAKEN FOR MEDICAL
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.169
DISCIPLINARY BECAUSE A REASON.
00:38:25.236 --> 00:38:26.837
AND IT HAS TO BE REPORTED TO THE
00:38:26.904 --> 00:38:28.272
BOARD ALTHOUGH THAT PHRASE IS
00:38:28.339 --> 00:38:30.041
DEFINED IN LAW IT IS STILL UP TO
00:38:30.107 --> 00:38:31.742
THE ENTITY AND ITS LEGAL COUNSEL
00:38:31.809 --> 00:38:33.611
REVIEW TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE
00:38:33.678 --> 00:38:35.680
ACTION IS REPORTABLE. ONE OTHER
00:38:35.746 --> 00:38:36.647
ISSUE THAT HAS COME TO THE
00:38:36.714 --> 00:38:37.715
BOARD'S ATTENTION IS THAT
00:38:37.782 --> 00:38:39.083
FACILITIES MAY NOT BELIEVE THEY
00:38:39.150 --> 00:38:40.117
HAVE TO REPORT BECAUSE THE
00:38:40.184 --> 00:38:41.652
ACTION ACTUALLY OCCURS OUTSIDE
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:43.220
OF THE MEDICAL EVALUATION
00:38:43.287 --> 00:38:43.888
COMMITTEE.
00:38:43.954 --> 00:38:45.389
OR OUTSIDE OF THE CLASSIC PEER
00:38:45.456 --> 00:38:47.491
REVIEW FUNCTION. FOR EXAMPLE A
00:38:47.558 --> 00:38:48.726
PHYSICIAN WITH AN IMPAIRMENT
00:38:48.793 --> 00:38:49.960
ISSUE IS REFERRED TO THE
00:38:50.027 --> 00:38:51.328
FACILITIES WHILE BEING COMMITTEE
00:38:51.395 --> 00:38:52.396
WHO RECOMMENDS A POSITION GOING
00:38:52.463 --> 00:38:53.998
TO TREATMENT.
00:38:54.065 --> 00:38:55.666
IN THESE INSTANCES FACILITIES
00:38:55.733 --> 00:38:57.068
FREQUENTLY TAKE THE POSITION
00:38:57.134 --> 00:38:58.436
THAT WROTE NO REPORT IS REQUIRED
00:38:58.502 --> 00:38:59.904
AND THE BOARD IS NOT MADE AWARE
00:38:59.970 --> 00:39:02.506
OF A SUBSTANCE ABUSING LICENSEE.
00:39:02.573 --> 00:39:04.775
IN ADDITION IF OPPOSITION TAKES
00:39:04.842 --> 00:39:06.744
A MEDICAL OR PRACTICE RELATED
00:39:06.811 --> 00:39:08.612
LEAVE OF ABSENCE BUT HAS NOT
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:09.647
BEEN PUT ON NOTICE OF AN
00:39:09.714 --> 00:39:11.215
INVESTIGATION OR INQUIRY.
00:39:11.282 --> 00:39:12.316
MANY FACILITIES TAKE THE
00:39:12.383 --> 00:39:13.084
POSITION THAT THIS IS NOT
00:39:13.150 --> 00:39:14.518
REPORTABLE.
00:39:14.585 --> 00:39:16.353
ALL OF THESE AREAS ARE GRAY
00:39:16.420 --> 00:39:18.122
AREAS WHERE A FACILITY MAY NOT
00:39:18.189 --> 00:39:19.890
REPORT TO THE BOARD.
00:39:19.957 --> 00:39:20.357
ALTHOUGH THE BOARD MAY
00:39:20.424 --> 00:39:22.059
INVESTIGATE THESE FAILURES TO
00:39:22.126 --> 00:39:23.494
REPORT THE BOARD MUST BE ABLE TO
00:39:23.561 --> 00:39:25.629
ESTABLISH A REPORT WAS REQUIRED
00:39:25.696 --> 00:39:27.431
AND THEN NOT FILED IN ORDER TO
00:39:27.498 --> 00:39:29.633
FOR US TO TAKE ACTION.
00:39:29.700 --> 00:39:30.701
THE BOARD IS HAPPY TO DISCUSS
00:39:30.768 --> 00:39:32.303
ANY RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO
00:39:32.369 --> 00:39:33.270
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS WITH THE
00:39:33.337 --> 00:39:34.739
LEGISLATURE.
00:39:34.805 --> 00:39:36.340
WE THAT COMMITTEE SHOULD ALSO
00:39:36.407 --> 00:39:37.975
CONSIDER IMPOSING NEW REPORTING
00:39:38.042 --> 00:39:39.643
REQUIREMENTS ON ALL HEALING ARTS
00:39:39.710 --> 00:39:40.911
PROFESSIONALS NOT JUST POSITIONS
00:39:40.978 --> 00:39:42.246
INSURGENTS.
00:39:42.313 --> 00:39:43.547
AGAIN THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE
00:39:43.614 --> 00:39:45.483
BOARD PROVIDE TESTIMONY TODAY
00:39:45.549 --> 00:39:46.383
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING
00:39:46.450 --> 00:39:48.652
ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU.
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:50.454
THANK YOU ALL IS ALWAYS FOR YOUR
00:39:50.521 --> 00:39:53.357
THOUGHTFULNESS AND THOROUGHNESS.
00:39:53.424 --> 00:39:54.759
ALWAYS THERE APPRECIATE.
00:39:54.825 --> 00:39:56.160
SOMEONE ELSE OF LIKE TO TESTIFY
00:39:56.227 --> 00:39:59.330
ON ISSUED YET THINK WE'RE JUST
00:39:59.396 --> 00:40:00.531
HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
00:40:00.598 --> 00:40:03.033
MR LIM IS UNDER THE S. B. SEVEN
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NINETY EIGHT LAST YEAR.
00:40:04.135 --> 00:40:05.436
IN THE LAST ENHANCE THE
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PENALTIES --
00:40:07.905 --> 00:40:09.473
SOUNDS LIKE.
00:40:09.540 --> 00:40:11.709
THE OUT REACH IS BEING DONE TO
00:40:11.776 --> 00:40:13.110
COMMUNICATE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE
00:40:13.177 --> 00:40:14.779
ARE AWARE THAT THE QUIET OF
00:40:14.845 --> 00:40:16.914
REPORTING --
00:40:16.981 --> 00:40:18.682
HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT YOU GET
00:40:18.749 --> 00:40:20.217
THE INFORMATION IN A TIMELY
00:40:20.284 --> 00:40:21.919
MANNER HOW HOW DO WE MAKE SURE
00:40:21.986 --> 00:40:23.387
OF THAT OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW
00:40:23.454 --> 00:40:24.655
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW?
00:40:24.722 --> 00:40:26.023
BUT AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU
00:40:26.090 --> 00:40:28.993
DON'T KNOW BUT HOW IT IS THERE A
00:40:29.059 --> 00:40:30.928
THE WAY TO ESTABLISHING CHECKS
00:40:30.995 --> 00:40:33.397
IN THIS SOMEHOW.
00:40:33.464 --> 00:40:34.431
TO SOME MARKERS THAT THE THE
00:40:34.498 --> 00:40:35.366
ONLY THING THAT AND WEEK BECAUSE
00:40:35.432 --> 00:40:36.534
YOU'RE RIGHT THAT'S ELTON THE
00:40:36.600 --> 00:40:37.601
ROOM RIGHT HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT
00:40:37.668 --> 00:40:38.536
WE DON'T KNOW.
00:40:38.602 --> 00:40:40.037
I'M THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD
00:40:40.104 --> 00:40:42.206
SEE IS POSSIBLY THROUGH THE HOME
00:40:42.273 --> 00:40:43.274
INSPECTIONS THAT ARE PERFORMED
00:40:43.340 --> 00:40:44.642
BY THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
00:40:44.708 --> 00:40:45.643
PUBLIC HEALTH.
00:40:45.709 --> 00:40:47.011
IF THEY GO OUT AND THEY'RE
00:40:47.077 --> 00:40:48.512
LOOKING AT THE MEDICAL RECORDS
00:40:48.579 --> 00:40:49.580
AND THEY DETERMINED THAT AN
00:40:49.647 --> 00:40:51.048
ENTITY ACTUALLY TOOK ACTION
00:40:51.115 --> 00:40:52.583
AGAINST A POSITION.
00:40:52.650 --> 00:40:54.118
AND THEY COULD REAP THEN SEND
00:40:54.185 --> 00:40:54.952
OUT TO THE MEDICAL BOARD THEY
00:40:55.019 --> 00:40:56.287
LOOK AT IT AND THEN THEY COULD
00:40:56.353 --> 00:40:57.822
REPORT THAT TO THE MEDICAL BOARD
00:40:57.888 --> 00:40:59.423
AND WE CAN IDENTIFY.
00:40:59.490 --> 00:41:00.324
WHETHER --
00:41:00.391 --> 00:41:01.292
YOU KNOW THEY SHOULD HAVE
00:41:01.358 --> 00:41:02.960
REPORTED IN THEY DIDN'T AND THEN
00:41:03.027 --> 00:41:04.528
ALSO IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
00:41:04.595 --> 00:41:05.729
THE MEDICAL BOARD SHOULD LOOK
00:41:05.796 --> 00:41:06.864
INTO FOR THE VIOLATIONS THAT
00:41:06.931 --> 00:41:08.732
THAT POSITION --
00:41:08.799 --> 00:41:09.934
THAT OCCURRED.
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.136
IF I MIGHT ADD I THINK THAT IS
00:41:12.203 --> 00:41:14.138
ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES OF THE
00:41:14.205 --> 00:41:15.806
PROJECT THAT.
00:41:15.873 --> 00:41:18.342
IS KURT MEYER REFERENCE WHERE WE
00:41:18.409 --> 00:41:20.110
ARE ESSENTIALLY WAVES.
00:41:20.177 --> 00:41:21.979
CREATED AND IT A SEPARATE
00:41:22.046 --> 00:41:23.647
VERTICAL ENFORCEMENT UNIT WITHIN
00:41:23.714 --> 00:41:26.750
OUR OFFICE AND THE BOARD TO LOOK
00:41:26.817 --> 00:41:28.052
AT KATO FIVE REPORTS WHEN THEY
00:41:28.118 --> 00:41:29.553
COME IN.
00:41:29.620 --> 00:41:31.522
TRY TO IDENTIFY FROM THOSE
00:41:31.589 --> 00:41:33.958
RECOUNTS WHETHER THERE.
00:41:34.024 --> 00:41:35.693
WERE REPORTS THAT PERHAPS SHOULD
00:41:35.759 --> 00:41:37.461
HAVE BEEN FILED SOONER.
00:41:37.528 --> 00:41:39.430
ADDITIONAL REPORTS WERE A REPORT
00:41:39.496 --> 00:41:42.132
ALSO UNDER EIGHT OH FIVE POINT
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:43.567
OH ONE AND WITHIN THAT PROJECT
00:41:43.634 --> 00:41:45.369
WE ARE ALSO --
00:41:45.436 --> 00:41:47.171
RAPPING IN CASES THAT WE COME
00:41:47.238 --> 00:41:48.806
ACROSS --
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INCIDENTAL TO OTHER
00:41:50.241 --> 00:41:52.276
INVESTIGATIONS WHERE WE MIGHT
00:41:52.343 --> 00:41:54.712
TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND DECIDE IT
00:41:54.778 --> 00:41:56.547
LOOKS TO US LIKE THERE MAY HAVE
00:41:56.614 --> 00:41:59.049
BEEN AN INSTITUTIONAL ISSUE.
00:41:59.116 --> 00:42:00.951
THAT MAY HAVE REQUIRED TO REPORT
00:42:01.018 --> 00:42:02.086
HIM WE ARE --
00:42:02.152 --> 00:42:04.255
TRYING REALLY FAST ONE OF THE
00:42:04.321 --> 00:42:05.422
THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING.
00:42:05.489 --> 00:42:08.292
FOR BEEN.
00:42:08.359 --> 00:42:09.793
OVER A YEAR NOW SINCE WE'VE BEEN
00:42:09.860 --> 00:42:11.695
WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND IT
00:42:11.762 --> 00:42:12.863
SEEMS TO BE STARTING TO BEAR
00:42:12.930 --> 00:42:14.732
SOME FRUIT.
00:42:14.798 --> 00:42:16.166
IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT THE
00:42:16.233 --> 00:42:17.534
QUESTION WAS RAISED ABOUT THE
00:42:17.601 --> 00:42:19.370
TWELVE UNDER TWENTY FIVE ISSUE
00:42:19.436 --> 00:42:21.105
AND YOU KNOW HOW MANY HOW IS
00:42:21.171 --> 00:42:21.739
THAT.
00:42:21.805 --> 00:42:24.174
THE POPULATION AND THE AS THEY
00:42:24.241 --> 00:42:25.843
CAN ABOUT YEAH THAT QUESTION AND
00:42:25.910 --> 00:42:27.311
AND SO FOR THE MEDICAL BOARD WE
00:42:27.378 --> 00:42:28.379
DON'T KEEP TRACK OF WHERE A
00:42:28.445 --> 00:42:29.847
PHYSICIAN IS EMPLOYED.
00:42:29.914 --> 00:42:30.748
THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE US AN
00:42:30.814 --> 00:42:33.384
ADDRESS OF RECORD IT IS WHERE
00:42:33.450 --> 00:42:35.786
THEIR EMPLOYMENT AS AND I DON'T
00:42:35.853 --> 00:42:36.787
KNOW I I WOULD PROBABLY AGREE
00:42:36.854 --> 00:42:37.755
WITH MISTER BROWN THAT I THINK A
00:42:37.821 --> 00:42:39.623
LOT OF THE LARGE ENTITIES ARE
00:42:39.690 --> 00:42:41.158
ARE COVERED AND THEY HAVE PEER
00:42:41.225 --> 00:42:42.192
REVIEW.
00:42:42.259 --> 00:42:43.827
BUT WE DO HAVE I'M AS YOU
00:42:43.894 --> 00:42:44.995
PROBABLY KNOW THAT FICTITIOUS
00:42:45.062 --> 00:42:47.598
NAME PERMIT THAT WE RECEIVE AND
00:42:47.665 --> 00:42:48.999
SO WE DO HAVE ENTITIES THAT WE
00:42:49.066 --> 00:42:50.434
KNOW OF THAT ARE MADE UP OF YOU
00:42:50.501 --> 00:42:52.469
KNOW FIVE TEN PHYSICIANS.
00:42:52.536 --> 00:42:53.737
I'M SO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE
00:42:53.804 --> 00:42:55.306
SOME OF THOSE SMALLER ENTITIES
00:42:55.372 --> 00:42:56.707
BUT I THINK THE ISSUE WOULD BE
00:42:56.774 --> 00:42:58.075
THAT IS ARE THEY EVEN DOING PEER
00:42:58.142 --> 00:42:59.376
REVIEW THOUGH.
00:42:59.443 --> 00:43:02.212
BECAUSE I I'D I DON'T KNOW THIS
00:43:02.279 --> 00:43:03.213
I WOULD SAY ANECDOTALLY THAT
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:04.615
THOSE ENTITIES ARE NOT DOING
00:43:04.682 --> 00:43:05.883
PEER REVIEW ON EACH OTHER IN
00:43:05.950 --> 00:43:08.485
THOSE FIVE TEN FACILITIES WHO IN
00:43:08.552 --> 00:43:09.386
THEIR FACILITIES.
00:43:09.453 --> 00:43:11.522
THEN YOU WOULD BE RELYING ON AND
00:43:11.588 --> 00:43:13.090
WE WOULD BE RELYING ON PATIENT
00:43:13.157 --> 00:43:14.758
BONTA PATIENTS COMPLAINS THAT
00:43:14.825 --> 00:43:16.460
WOULD COME TO YOU OR OTHER
00:43:16.527 --> 00:43:18.195
ENTITIES THAT MAY YOU KNOW AND
00:43:18.262 --> 00:43:18.963
IT'S NEWSLETTER SHE IT IN A
00:43:19.029 --> 00:43:20.597
DIFFERENT SETTING RIGHT IN ON
00:43:20.664 --> 00:43:21.799
AND THEN YOU KNOW.
00:43:21.865 --> 00:43:22.766
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE ISSUE OF
00:43:22.833 --> 00:43:24.435
YOU KNOW MAKING SURE THE PATIENT
00:43:24.501 --> 00:43:25.502
KNOWS THAT OUTSIDE OF
00:43:25.569 --> 00:43:27.304
MALPRACTICE THEY ALSO HAVE THE
00:43:27.371 --> 00:43:28.672
ABILITY TO REPORT TO THE MEDICAL
00:43:28.739 --> 00:43:29.907
BOARD I MEAN WE SEE THIS IN.
00:43:29.974 --> 00:43:31.809
AN ALL ASPECTS YOU KNOW WHAT'S
00:43:31.875 --> 00:43:33.310
IMPORTANT FOR PATIENTS TO KNOW
00:43:33.377 --> 00:43:34.244
THAT THEY CAN COME TO THE
00:43:34.311 --> 00:43:36.680
MEDICAL BOARD TO MAKE A
00:43:36.747 --> 00:43:37.715
COMPLAINT NOT JUST.
00:43:37.781 --> 00:43:39.216
YOU KNOW THROUGH THAT EITHER THE
00:43:39.283 --> 00:43:39.883
MALPRACTICE VENUE OR THROUGH IN
00:43:39.950 --> 00:43:41.118
THE GOING TO THE FACILITY THAT
00:43:41.185 --> 00:43:42.386
THEY ALSO NEED TO MAKE THAT
00:43:42.453 --> 00:43:44.588
COMPLAINT TO THE MEDICAL BOARD.
00:43:44.655 --> 00:43:47.891
YOU SEE --
00:43:47.958 --> 00:43:49.593
YOU NOTICE IT OR KNOWING THE
00:43:49.660 --> 00:43:51.462
DIFFERENT TYPES OF STRUCTURES
00:43:51.528 --> 00:43:52.830
THAT WE HAVEN'T REACHED THIS
00:43:52.896 --> 00:43:54.298
QUESTION TO MISTER BROWN THAT.
00:43:54.365 --> 00:43:56.500
THE ISSUE OF WHEN YOU HAVE AN
00:43:56.567 --> 00:43:58.235
EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION.
00:43:58.302 --> 00:44:00.070
YOU HAVE FACULTY THAN YOU HAVE
00:44:00.137 --> 00:44:02.439
CLINICS HAVE A HOSPITAL.
00:44:02.506 --> 00:44:04.174
THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT.
00:44:04.241 --> 00:44:06.610
POCKETS THAT PEOPLE FIT INTO IN
00:44:06.677 --> 00:44:08.579
THEIR ROLES THAT IS.
00:44:08.645 --> 00:44:10.948
IS THERE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE
00:44:11.015 --> 00:44:11.248
[inaudible]
00:44:11.315 --> 00:44:13.417
SOMEONE WOULD.
00:44:13.484 --> 00:44:15.152
FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS PERHAPS
00:44:15.219 --> 00:44:18.489
OR WHERE THERE WOULD BE NO.
00:44:18.555 --> 00:44:20.958
REPORTING REQUIREMENT IN ONE
00:44:21.025 --> 00:44:22.426
PARTICULAR POCKET THAT THEY MAY
00:44:22.493 --> 00:44:23.927
FIT INTO [inaudible]
00:44:23.994 --> 00:44:26.196
THAT --
00:44:26.263 --> 00:44:28.399
COULD --
00:44:28.465 --> 00:44:29.033
COULD BE PRESIDENT IN THE SYSTEM
00:44:29.099 --> 00:44:30.200
TODAY.
00:44:30.267 --> 00:44:31.435
I DO THINK THAT HAPPENS AN
00:44:31.502 --> 00:44:33.037
ENGINE CREW PROBABLY ACTUALLY
00:44:33.103 --> 00:44:34.138
ANSWER THAT EVEN BETTER BUT I
00:44:34.204 --> 00:44:35.439
THINK YOU KNOW IT DEPENDS ON
00:44:35.506 --> 00:44:36.907
WHO'S THE EMPLOYER OF THAT
00:44:36.974 --> 00:44:38.042
PHYSICIAN WHO IS THE ACTUAL
00:44:38.108 --> 00:44:39.810
ENTITY WHOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR
00:44:39.877 --> 00:44:40.210
THEM.
00:44:40.277 --> 00:44:41.678
WHERE DO THEN WHERE DOES AND NOT
00:44:41.745 --> 00:44:43.714
ENTITY FIT WITHIN ON THE
00:44:43.781 --> 00:44:45.549
STRUCTURE AND SO I I BELIEVE
00:44:45.616 --> 00:44:47.051
THAT THERE COULD BE LOOP HOLES I
00:44:47.117 --> 00:44:48.786
MEAN YOU HAVE A LOCUM TENENS AND
00:44:48.852 --> 00:44:50.487
PHYSICIANS THAT COMEY AND AND?
00:44:50.554 --> 00:44:52.056
WHO ACTUALLY IS THAT PHYSICIAN
00:44:52.122 --> 00:44:53.524
IMPLODE WITHIN WHO'S DOING PEER
00:44:53.590 --> 00:44:54.792
REVIEW ON THAT?
00:44:54.858 --> 00:44:56.727
POSITION SO THERE THERE COULD BE
00:44:56.794 --> 00:44:58.695
HOLE LOOPHOLES IN AREAS WHERE
00:44:58.762 --> 00:45:00.764
IT'S IT'S GREAT FOR THE ENTITY
00:45:00.831 --> 00:45:03.300
WHETHER THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO
00:45:03.367 --> 00:45:03.600
REPAIR NOT.
00:45:03.667 --> 00:45:04.268
IN.
00:45:04.334 --> 00:45:05.602
CERTAINLY TRUE THERE ARE A
00:45:05.669 --> 00:45:07.271
NUMBER OF LOOPHOLES AND I THINK
00:45:07.337 --> 00:45:08.405
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE
00:45:08.472 --> 00:45:10.107
TO KEEP IN MIND.
00:45:10.174 --> 00:45:13.043
IS THE SECTION EIGHT OH FIVE AND
00:45:13.110 --> 00:45:15.379
MY DAD AYE QUITE RAPID ALSO IT A
00:45:15.446 --> 00:45:16.180
FIVE POINT.
00:45:16.246 --> 00:45:17.114
OH ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A
00:45:17.181 --> 00:45:19.383
LIMITED UNIVERSE OF SITUATIONS
00:45:19.450 --> 00:45:21.385
AND THAT'S WHERE THERE HAS BEEN
00:45:21.452 --> 00:45:23.821
PEER REVIEW CONDUCTED BY THE
00:45:23.887 --> 00:45:25.289
MEDICAL STAFF.
00:45:25.355 --> 00:45:27.925
AND IN THE IN THE INSTITUTIONAL
00:45:27.991 --> 00:45:30.727
OR UNIVERSITY TYPESETTING A LOT
00:45:30.794 --> 00:45:32.830
OF THE ACTIONS THAT MIGHT BE
00:45:32.896 --> 00:45:35.265
TAKEN AGAINSTAN INDIVIDUAL ARE
00:45:35.332 --> 00:45:37.434
NOT ACTIONS THAT ARE CONDUCTED
00:45:37.501 --> 00:45:38.969
AS A RESULT OF PEER REVIEW.
00:45:39.036 --> 00:45:40.404
AND THEREFORE THEY WOULD QUITE
00:45:40.471 --> 00:45:43.307
LIKELY OFTENTIMES FALL OUTSIDE
00:45:43.373 --> 00:45:45.042
OF THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.
00:45:45.109 --> 00:45:46.310
INTERESTING OTHERS YOU HAVE AND
00:45:46.376 --> 00:45:49.113
DOCTOR PAN.
00:45:49.179 --> 00:45:50.714
REFERRED TO SOME OF THE
00:45:50.781 --> 00:45:51.982
DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRACTICE
00:45:52.049 --> 00:45:53.383
STRUCTURES I KNOW.
00:45:53.450 --> 00:45:55.486
OVER THE PAST TWENTY FIVE YEARS
00:45:55.552 --> 00:45:57.554
SINCE I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT EIGHT
00:45:57.621 --> 00:45:58.622
OH FIVE WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF
00:45:58.689 --> 00:46:00.424
CHANGES WE'VE SEEN HOSPITALS ARE
00:46:00.491 --> 00:46:03.393
STAFFED NOW BY EMERGENCY ROOM.
00:46:03.460 --> 00:46:06.130
PHYSICIAN STAFFING AGENCIES OR
00:46:06.196 --> 00:46:07.865
COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE EMERGENCY
00:46:07.931 --> 00:46:08.932
ROOM COVERAGE OR ANESTHESIA
00:46:08.999 --> 00:46:10.234
COVERAGE.
00:46:10.300 --> 00:46:12.436
AND THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS
00:46:12.503 --> 00:46:14.138
AND SOME AMBIGUITY WHICH WE'VE
00:46:14.204 --> 00:46:15.739
TRIED TO RESOLVE.
00:46:15.806 --> 00:46:17.107
ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND
00:46:17.174 --> 00:46:19.376
FIGURED OUT AS WE GO BUT YES
00:46:19.443 --> 00:46:21.078
THINGS THERE ARE A LOT OF
00:46:21.145 --> 00:46:22.246
SITUATIONS THAT ARE.
00:46:22.312 --> 00:46:24.748
NOT AT ALL CLEAR CUT.
00:46:24.815 --> 00:46:27.351
OTHER SUGGESTIONS.
00:46:27.417 --> 00:46:28.452
TO WHAT SPECIFICALLY COULD BE
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.655
DONE TO CLOSE THOSE.
00:46:31.722 --> 00:46:33.524
BOTH BILL THOSE LOOPHOLES OTHER
00:46:33.590 --> 00:46:35.025
I THINK REALLY YET AVAILABLE TO
00:46:35.092 --> 00:46:36.660
MEET WITH YOU AND AND DISCUSS
00:46:36.727 --> 00:46:37.494
THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND OF
00:46:37.561 --> 00:46:38.795
COURSE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WE
00:46:38.862 --> 00:46:39.897
YOU KNOW WANNA DISCUSS THOSE
00:46:39.963 --> 00:46:42.299
WITH OUR BOARD AS WELL TO PUT
00:46:42.366 --> 00:46:42.633
GOES FORWARD.
00:46:42.699 --> 00:46:44.568
FOR APPROVAL [inaudible]
00:46:44.635 --> 00:46:51.108
IT ALONE --
00:46:51.175 --> 00:46:59.216
SOMETHING ELSE. TWO IT IN SOME
00:46:59.283 --> 00:47:00.784
CASES YOU GET [inaudible]
00:47:00.851 --> 00:47:02.719
A COMPLAINT.
00:47:02.786 --> 00:47:04.354
THAT MAY BE SUBMITTED TO A
00:47:04.421 --> 00:47:05.656
HEALTH FACILITY AND I DON'T KNOW
00:47:05.722 --> 00:47:07.524
I MEAN I'M DEFINING THAT IS
00:47:07.591 --> 00:47:09.359
ALMOST ANYTHING YOU COULD WISH
00:47:09.426 --> 00:47:11.795
SOMEONE GOES FOR HEALTHCARE --
00:47:11.862 --> 00:47:14.498
AND IT.
00:47:14.565 --> 00:47:16.366
ZIFF TODAY THERE ARE SOME OF
00:47:16.433 --> 00:47:18.001
THOSE WHERE THAT WOULD NOT GO
00:47:18.068 --> 00:47:20.370
AUTOMATICALLY TO YOU
00:47:20.437 --> 00:47:20.671
[inaudible]
00:47:20.737 --> 00:47:21.872
FOR REVIEW [inaudible]
00:47:21.939 --> 00:47:24.541
AND DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE
00:47:24.608 --> 00:47:25.409
HELPFUL IF THERE WERE
00:47:25.475 --> 00:47:27.177
CIRCUMSTANCES WERE EVERY
00:47:27.244 --> 00:47:28.545
COMPLAINT THAT WOULD GO TO MAKE
00:47:28.612 --> 00:47:30.714
SIMILAR TO A PATIENT GOING TO A
00:47:30.781 --> 00:47:33.283
HEALTH CLINIC IN COMPLAINING.
00:47:33.350 --> 00:47:35.419
TO ADMINISTRATOR OR MANAGEMENT
00:47:35.485 --> 00:47:37.354
OF THE HEALTH CLINIC AND AND OR
00:47:37.421 --> 00:47:38.589
FACILITY [inaudible]
00:47:38.655 --> 00:47:40.224
AND THEN.
00:47:40.290 --> 00:47:43.527
THAT PERSON COULD EASILY SAY.
00:47:43.594 --> 00:47:44.561
WELL IF THEY DON'T HAVE BEEN
00:47:44.628 --> 00:47:45.462
ABLE FIVE REPORTING REQUIREMENT
00:47:45.529 --> 00:47:45.762
[inaudible]
00:47:45.829 --> 00:47:47.965
THAT.
00:47:48.031 --> 00:47:49.399
WELL HE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT AND
00:47:49.466 --> 00:47:50.734
THANKS FOR SHARING.
00:47:50.801 --> 00:47:51.935
OF INTIMATE DECLINE THAT
00:47:52.002 --> 00:47:54.304
ANYONE'S DOING THAT BUT IT IT IT
00:47:54.371 --> 00:47:56.206
COULD CERTAINLY HAPPEN.
00:47:56.273 --> 00:47:57.407
AND THEN NOTHING HAS HAPPENED TO
00:47:57.474 --> 00:47:58.675
THAT THE PATIENT FEELS THAT
00:47:58.742 --> 00:48:00.210
THEY'VE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE
00:48:00.277 --> 00:48:03.080
BY REPORTING THIS AND YET IT
00:48:03.146 --> 00:48:04.848
STOPS AND DICE THERE.
00:48:04.915 --> 00:48:07.117
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS.
00:48:07.184 --> 00:48:08.352
COULD BE IN IT MAY BE A
00:48:08.418 --> 00:48:10.254
OCCURRING TODAY.
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:11.822
WE BELIEVE YES AS THE MEDICAL
00:48:11.888 --> 00:48:12.990
BOARD WE BELIEVE THE ANY
00:48:13.056 --> 00:48:14.324
INDIVIDUAL HAS A COMPLAINT
00:48:14.391 --> 00:48:15.559
AGAINST A PHYSICIAN NOT COMPLETE
00:48:15.626 --> 00:48:17.194
SHOULD COME TO THE BOARD SO WE
00:48:17.261 --> 00:48:18.695
CAN LOOK INTO IT --
00:48:18.762 --> 00:48:19.630
AS YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THERE'S THE
00:48:19.696 --> 00:48:21.598
REQUIREMENT TO POST ON THE SIGN
00:48:21.665 --> 00:48:22.532
THAT PHYSICIANS ARE RIGHT ON
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:24.368
THAT SIGN IN THE OFFICE OR IN
00:48:24.434 --> 00:48:25.936
CERTAIN DISCHARGE PAPERS.
00:48:26.003 --> 00:48:27.871
ON THE DEFICIT THAT POSITION IS
00:48:27.938 --> 00:48:28.805
REGULATED BY THE MEDICAL BOARD
00:48:28.872 --> 00:48:29.906
OF CALIFORNIA WERE ACTUALLY
00:48:29.973 --> 00:48:31.475
WORKING ON REGULATIONS RIGHT NOW
00:48:31.541 --> 00:48:32.843
BECAUSE WE GOT THAT.
00:48:32.909 --> 00:48:34.278
IN YOUR BILL LAST YEAR THANK YOU
00:48:34.344 --> 00:48:36.179
VERY MUCH TO LET US PUT MORE
00:48:36.246 --> 00:48:37.914
INFORMATION INTO THAT SIGN.
00:48:37.981 --> 00:48:39.383
ON BUT I DO BELIEVE A LOT OF
00:48:39.449 --> 00:48:40.751
INDIVIDUALS BELIEVE THAT BY
00:48:40.817 --> 00:48:42.152
MAKING IT TO THE FACILITY IT'S
00:48:42.219 --> 00:48:43.553
GOING TO GET TO THE APPROPRIATE
00:48:43.620 --> 00:48:45.756
ENTITY AND THAT MAY NOT BE THE
00:48:45.822 --> 00:48:47.057
CASE BECAUSE OF THAT FACILITY
00:48:47.124 --> 00:48:48.692
DOESN'T TAKE ACTION AGAINST THE
00:48:48.759 --> 00:48:49.960
DOCTOR.
00:48:50.027 --> 00:48:51.361
I'M THEY DON'T REPORT NOW THEY
00:48:51.428 --> 00:48:52.162
DON'T SUBMIT THAT TO THE MEN IN
00:48:52.229 --> 00:48:53.363
THEIR SOME CASES WHERE THERE IS
00:48:53.430 --> 00:48:54.831
NO REQUIREMENT TO TAKE ACTION
00:48:54.898 --> 00:48:56.466
RIGHT IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PEER
00:48:56.533 --> 00:48:57.868
REVIEWED AND THEN IT JUST.
00:48:57.934 --> 00:48:59.403
COULD END WITHIN YOU KNOW
00:48:59.469 --> 00:49:03.540
HOWEVER.
00:49:03.607 --> 00:49:04.908
AND I AND I DO WANT TO MAKE IT
00:49:04.975 --> 00:49:05.475
QUICK BECAUSE IT YET I THINK
00:49:05.542 --> 00:49:08.045
THERE'S A TENDENCY IN IN OUR
00:49:08.111 --> 00:49:10.981
CONVERSATION TODAY TO IMPLY.
00:49:11.048 --> 00:49:12.616
THAT THIS IS A IMAGE CERTAINLY
00:49:12.683 --> 00:49:14.451
IS A PROBLEM BUT THERE ARE A
00:49:14.518 --> 00:49:15.852
HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND
00:49:15.919 --> 00:49:17.554
LICENSE PHYSICIANS IN CALIFORNIA
00:49:17.621 --> 00:49:20.223
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY.
00:49:20.290 --> 00:49:22.626
VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THOSE
00:49:22.693 --> 00:49:24.661
PHYSICIANS AT A HANDFUL --
00:49:24.728 --> 00:49:26.830
IT ANYONE TIME PROBABLY AT MOST --
00:49:26.897 --> 00:49:29.633
BUT NOT THAT MANY AND SO I JUST
00:49:29.700 --> 00:49:30.200
WANTED CLEAR THAT WE HAVE A
00:49:30.267 --> 00:49:30.667
WONDERFUL.
00:49:30.734 --> 00:49:31.702
AND HEALTHY AND VIBRANT.
00:49:31.768 --> 00:49:36.740
AND PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL OF
00:49:36.807 --> 00:49:39.276
PROFESSION CALIFORNIA AND AND WE
00:49:39.343 --> 00:49:41.111
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE
00:49:41.178 --> 00:49:41.712
GET THOSE THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
00:49:41.778 --> 00:49:43.146
ONCE.
00:49:43.213 --> 00:49:44.614
THANK YOU I'M UP FOR THE
00:49:44.681 --> 00:49:45.182
QUESTIONS ARE THANK YOU VERY
00:49:45.248 --> 00:49:47.117
MUCH.
00:49:47.184 --> 00:49:50.721
ULTRA YES I'M SORRY.
00:49:50.787 --> 00:49:52.422
I WILL FOR GOT EVERYBODY'S GOT
00:49:52.489 --> 00:49:55.225
MY APOLOGIES GOOD MORNING HI I'M
00:49:55.292 --> 00:49:56.159
SCOTT EVER I'M THE ASSISTANT TO
00:49:56.226 --> 00:49:57.094
THE DIRECTOR FOR THE CENTER FOR
00:49:57.160 --> 00:49:58.962
HEALTH CARE QUALITY FOR SOONER
00:49:59.029 --> 00:49:59.363
OUT.
00:49:59.429 --> 00:50:00.897
FOR COMPANIES UPON PUBLIC HEALTH.
00:50:00.964 --> 00:50:02.733
PART OF MY OF CENTER IN THIS
00:50:02.799 --> 00:50:03.633
ELECTION SEEMS REPETITION
00:50:03.700 --> 00:50:04.968
PROGRAM AND THEY DON'T SEE
00:50:05.035 --> 00:50:06.703
PROGRAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
00:50:06.770 --> 00:50:09.373
OVERSIGHT OF A LICENSED.
00:50:09.439 --> 00:50:11.241
HEALTH APPROVED FIVE CLINICS AND
00:50:11.308 --> 00:50:13.677
ENTITIES FACILITIES IN
00:50:13.744 --> 00:50:14.778
CALIFORNIA --
00:50:14.845 --> 00:50:16.880
WE CERTIFY AND LICENSE OVER TEN
00:50:16.947 --> 00:50:17.647
THOUSAND HEALTH FACILITIES IN
00:50:17.714 --> 00:50:19.649
CALIFORNIA AND THAT COMPRISES
00:50:19.716 --> 00:50:21.084
ROUGHLY THIRTY DIFFERENT
00:50:21.151 --> 00:50:22.919
FACILITY TYPES --
00:50:22.986 --> 00:50:25.088
FOR EXAMPLE HOSPITALS NURSING
00:50:25.155 --> 00:50:27.023
HOMES PRIMARY CARE CLINICS OTHER
00:50:27.090 --> 00:50:28.658
SPECIALTY CLINICS HOME HEALTH
00:50:28.725 --> 00:50:30.327
AGENCY SO THOSE WERE THE MOVE OF
00:50:30.394 --> 00:50:32.662
ENTITIES THAT WE HAVE OVERSIGHT.
00:50:32.729 --> 00:50:34.698
AUTHORITY OVER --
00:50:34.765 --> 00:50:35.899
AND WE FILL OUR MISSION OF
00:50:35.966 --> 00:50:38.235
PROTECTION OF OF A CLIENT'S
00:50:38.301 --> 00:50:39.503
PATIENTS --
00:50:39.569 --> 00:50:41.505
RESIDENTS BY DOING PERIODIC
00:50:41.571 --> 00:50:43.306
INSPECTIONS AND INSPECTIONS BOTH
00:50:43.373 --> 00:50:44.708
FROM A FEDERAL STANDPOINT AS
00:50:44.775 --> 00:50:45.542
BOTH THE STATE LICENSING
00:50:45.609 --> 00:50:46.610
STANDPOINT.
00:50:46.676 --> 00:50:48.078
AND ALSO DOING COMPLAIN THAT
00:50:48.145 --> 00:50:49.679
INVESTIGATIONS.
00:50:49.746 --> 00:50:51.581
SO DURING OUR NORMAL WE SERVE
00:50:51.648 --> 00:50:53.150
OCCASION AND A RELICENSING
00:50:53.216 --> 00:50:55.485
SURVEY CROSSES WE HAVE A VERY --
00:50:55.552 --> 00:50:57.354
PRESCRIPTIVE PROCESS BY WHICH WE
00:50:57.421 --> 00:50:58.422
FOLLOW -- WE
00:50:58.488 --> 00:50:58.688
WE FOLLOW.
00:50:58.755 --> 00:51:01.525
THE FEDERAL.
00:51:01.591 --> 00:51:03.560
IF I FACILITIES AND WE WHEN WE
00:51:03.627 --> 00:51:04.961
LOOK COLOR LICENSING HAVE
00:51:05.028 --> 00:51:06.430
REGULATIONS WE HAVE A VERY.
00:51:06.496 --> 00:51:07.697
GOOD TO PROCESS THAT WE WOULD
00:51:07.764 --> 00:51:10.100
FOLLOW FOR IDENTIFICATION OF
00:51:10.167 --> 00:51:11.001
PROBLEMS --
00:51:11.067 --> 00:51:13.303
WHERE THE FLEA MAY NOT BE AND
00:51:13.370 --> 00:51:15.939
ALIGNMENT OR ABRIDGING OF
00:51:16.006 --> 00:51:16.973
REGULATION?
00:51:17.040 --> 00:51:18.542
A IT IS.
00:51:18.608 --> 00:51:20.377
DIFFICULT PROBABLY TO SAY THAT
00:51:20.444 --> 00:51:22.279
DURING THOSE REGULAR SERVIC
00:51:22.345 --> 00:51:23.814
SUFFOCATION LESS THEME OF SERIES
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:24.714
THAT WE WOULD IDENTIFY
00:51:24.781 --> 00:51:26.817
MISCONDUCT OF THIS NATURE WE DO
00:51:26.883 --> 00:51:28.218
LOOK AT RECORD REVIEWS.
00:51:28.285 --> 00:51:29.953
BUT HOW IT.
00:51:30.020 --> 00:51:32.155
IS IN THE COURSE OF THIS PROCESS
00:51:32.222 --> 00:51:33.523
THAT WE HAVE BUILT ON THAT THEME
00:51:33.590 --> 00:51:35.258
AS A SNIFFER MEDICARE MEDICAID
00:51:35.325 --> 00:51:37.093
SERVICES HAS GIVEN US FOR HOW WE
00:51:37.160 --> 00:51:38.361
WOULD FALL --
00:51:38.428 --> 00:51:39.863
THE PROTOCOLS.
00:51:39.930 --> 00:51:42.032
WHERE WE WOULD MORE LIKELY FIND
00:51:42.098 --> 00:51:44.000
PROBLEMS OF THE NATURE OF THIS
00:51:44.067 --> 00:51:44.468
COMMITTEES --
00:51:44.534 --> 00:51:46.436
HEARING TODAY IS DURING COMPLAIN
00:51:46.503 --> 00:51:48.405
INVESTIGATIONS OR REPORTS FROM
00:51:48.472 --> 00:51:50.941
THAT THE SLEAZE THEMSELVES OF OF
00:51:51.007 --> 00:51:51.842
ISSUES THAT THEY WANT TO BRING
00:51:51.908 --> 00:51:53.477
YOUR ATTENTION.
00:51:53.543 --> 00:51:55.879
ALL OVER A LICENSED ENTITIES
00:51:55.946 --> 00:51:58.081
THERE IS A PROVISION AND THE
00:51:58.148 --> 00:52:00.684
RELEVANT --
00:52:00.750 --> 00:52:02.152
CALTRAIN TO REGULATIONS THAT
00:52:02.219 --> 00:52:03.954
REQUIRE FACILITIES TO REPORT
00:52:04.020 --> 00:52:05.755
UNUSUAL OCCURRENCES AND THAT'S
00:52:05.822 --> 00:52:06.923
KINDA LOOSELY DEFINED IN A
00:52:06.990 --> 00:52:08.692
REGULATIONS THE CERTAINLY --
00:52:08.758 --> 00:52:10.393
ISSUES OF INVOLVING SEXUAL
00:52:10.460 --> 00:52:12.095
MISCONDUCT WOULD SOON FALL INTO
00:52:12.162 --> 00:52:14.965
AT AN UNUSUAL OCCURRENCE REPORTS
00:52:15.031 --> 00:52:17.067
WE MAKE IT REPORTS DIRECTLY FROM.
00:52:17.133 --> 00:52:18.969
CECILY'S OF THAT BECOME AWARE
00:52:19.035 --> 00:52:19.903
SOMETHING.
00:52:19.970 --> 00:52:21.638
UP I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT
00:52:21.705 --> 00:52:23.240
A MOOSE LICENSE PROFESSIONALLY
00:52:23.306 --> 00:52:27.210
CALIFORNIA OF HAVE A MANDATORY A
00:52:27.277 --> 00:52:29.179
PROTOCOL FOR FOR REPORTING ABUSE
00:52:29.246 --> 00:52:31.047
SO THEY'RE ALL OF THEIR ALL
00:52:31.114 --> 00:52:31.915
MANDATORY REPORTERS THEY SHOULD
00:52:31.982 --> 00:52:33.250
BE REPORTING TO SOMEBODY.
00:52:33.316 --> 00:52:35.452
A EITHER US LOCAL LAW
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.754
ENFORCEMENT SO WE ALSO IF A IN
00:52:37.821 --> 00:52:39.289
THE FULLY STAFF IN A FLEA IS
00:52:39.356 --> 00:52:42.125
AWARE OF MISCONDUCT OF OF OF OF
00:52:42.192 --> 00:52:43.159
ABUSE NATURE.
00:52:43.226 --> 00:52:45.762
THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO REPORT
00:52:45.829 --> 00:52:48.331
THAT TO SOMEBODY.
00:52:48.398 --> 00:52:50.867
AND IN A FISCALLY REPORTS THOSE
00:52:50.934 --> 00:52:52.602
ARE MORE TARGETED INVESTIGATION
00:52:52.669 --> 00:52:54.304
SO WE ALSO HAVE AN ALLEGATION
00:52:54.371 --> 00:52:55.171
EITHER BE REPORT BY A
00:52:55.238 --> 00:52:57.173
COMPLAINANT OR BY THE FLEA OF
00:52:57.240 --> 00:52:58.208
SOMETHING.
00:52:58.275 --> 00:53:00.377
AND SO ARE IN DISCUSSIONS MUCH
00:53:00.443 --> 00:53:01.311
MORE FOCUS AND WHICH PORTRAYAL
00:53:01.378 --> 00:53:04.381
DOT SO THROUGH PORKY MEN OF THEM --
00:53:04.447 --> 00:53:06.182
SORT OF A AN ISSUE WITH THE
00:53:06.249 --> 00:53:08.318
PROVIDER THE CARE BE RECEIVED BY
00:53:08.385 --> 00:53:10.420
BY THE PROVIDER OF THE FACILITY
00:53:10.487 --> 00:53:12.289
FOR THAT RESIDENT OR CLIENT OR
00:53:12.355 --> 00:53:12.989
PATIENT.
00:53:13.056 --> 00:53:14.190
THEN THAT WILL BE THE FOCUS OF
00:53:14.257 --> 00:53:15.859
OUR INVESTIGATIONS AND SO WE
00:53:15.926 --> 00:53:17.460
TALKED TO ABOUT THE THE
00:53:17.527 --> 00:53:19.596
COMPLAINER WHO TALKED STAFF WE
00:53:19.663 --> 00:53:20.730
LOOK IRAQ REVIEWS WOULD DROP
00:53:20.797 --> 00:53:22.032
OBSERVATIONS OF THAT'S OUR
00:53:22.098 --> 00:53:23.700
TYPICAL PROTOCOL FOR HOW WE
00:53:23.767 --> 00:53:24.734
WOULD INVESTIGATE ANY.
00:53:24.801 --> 00:53:27.404
OF OUR ON COMPLAIN AS CHRISTIANS.
00:53:27.470 --> 00:53:30.540
IF WE SUBSTANTIATE VIOLATIONS OF
00:53:30.607 --> 00:53:32.409
OF WHERE THE FLEA FAILED TO DO
00:53:32.475 --> 00:53:34.344
SOMETHING AGAINST RELATIONS AND
00:53:34.411 --> 00:53:34.878
WE WOULD OFFICES FIGHT THE
00:53:34.945 --> 00:53:36.313
FACILITY.
00:53:36.379 --> 00:53:37.881
NOW ON THE INDIVIDUAL SIDE OF
00:53:37.948 --> 00:53:38.915
THE EQUATION.
00:53:38.982 --> 00:53:41.618
IF WE IF PART OF THE
00:53:41.685 --> 00:53:43.386
SUBSTANTIATION A PART OF OUR
00:53:43.453 --> 00:53:45.322
SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN DETERMINE.
00:53:45.388 --> 00:53:47.057
HAD SOME ROBUST THE LICENSED
00:53:47.123 --> 00:53:49.392
PROFESSIONALS A LICENSE.
00:53:49.459 --> 00:53:50.594
THEN WE WOULD MAKE THE PROPER
00:53:50.660 --> 00:53:52.762
BOARD REFERRALS TO THE PROGRAM
00:53:52.829 --> 00:53:54.798
OF ENTITIES SO FOR EXAMPLE IF WE
00:53:54.864 --> 00:53:57.267
HAVE A REPORT OF A PHYSICIAN WHO
00:53:57.334 --> 00:53:59.135
WAS DOING SOMETHING THAT WE FELT.
00:53:59.202 --> 00:53:59.603
OUT OF BRITISH THEIR
00:53:59.669 --> 00:54:00.937
PROFESSIONAL LICENSE WE MAKE
00:54:01.004 --> 00:54:02.639
REFERRAL TO MEDICAL BOARD FOR
00:54:02.706 --> 00:54:04.608
THEIR FOLLOW UP INVESTIGATIONS
00:54:04.674 --> 00:54:05.241
AND WE WILL WORK IN THE MEDICAL
00:54:05.308 --> 00:54:06.042
BOARD STAFF.
00:54:06.109 --> 00:54:09.546
IT IF THEY DECIDE THAT THEY ALSO
00:54:09.613 --> 00:54:10.747
OUR NOSE AVAILABLE ON OUR
00:54:10.814 --> 00:54:12.382
SERVERS AVAIL TO CAUSE YOU.
00:54:12.449 --> 00:54:13.016
TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE MEDICAL
00:54:13.083 --> 00:54:14.384
BOARD AS HE WOULD DO THEIR OWN
00:54:14.451 --> 00:54:15.385
INVESTIGATION.
00:54:15.452 --> 00:54:17.787
WE SIMPLY DO INVESTIGATION OR
00:54:17.854 --> 00:54:19.522
REFERRALS TO LICENSE OF A
00:54:19.589 --> 00:54:21.358
CRUCIAL NURSES BOARDS ARE
00:54:21.424 --> 00:54:22.425
EMPLOYERS --
00:54:22.492 --> 00:54:23.860
SO AGAIN THAT'S THE CHECKS AND
00:54:23.927 --> 00:54:24.995
BALANCE.
00:54:25.061 --> 00:54:27.764
IF WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE
00:54:27.831 --> 00:54:30.300
VIOLATION OR ALLEGATION WAS OF A
00:54:30.367 --> 00:54:32.869
SEVERE NATURE OF RAPE OR SEXUAL
00:54:32.936 --> 00:54:34.437
ASSAULT OF OF THAT NATURE.
00:54:34.504 --> 00:54:36.706
WE MAY ALSO MAKE OF A REFERRAL
00:54:36.773 --> 00:54:37.941
TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL
00:54:38.008 --> 00:54:40.276
AS A FORMER JUSTICE --
00:54:40.343 --> 00:54:41.778
SLIPPED OUT THE AG'S OFFICE ALSO
00:54:41.845 --> 00:54:42.946
AS A UNIT THAT THEY WOULD
00:54:43.013 --> 00:54:44.614
INVESTIGATE OUT TO DETERMINE IF
00:54:44.681 --> 00:54:45.615
THERE'S SOME SORT OF A CRIMINAL
00:54:45.682 --> 00:54:47.017
ACTION OF THAT THEY WOULD WANT
00:54:47.083 --> 00:54:48.284
IT.
00:54:48.351 --> 00:54:49.653
SO IN THAT REGARD YOU KNOW
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:51.421
THAT'S HOW WE WOULD CONDUCT OUR
00:54:51.488 --> 00:54:54.491
BUSINESS IS WORKING OF MORE OF A
00:54:54.557 --> 00:54:56.159
TO DETERMINE THE FACILITIES
00:54:56.226 --> 00:54:57.093
FAILURE.
00:54:57.160 --> 00:54:58.828
AND AND THAT'S WE UNCOVER
00:54:58.895 --> 00:55:00.864
INFORMATION THAT MIGHT LEAD US
00:55:00.930 --> 00:55:02.799
TO BELIEVE THAT --
00:55:02.866 --> 00:55:04.167
A NURSE OR SOMEBODY ELSE --
00:55:04.234 --> 00:55:06.469
WAS VIOLATING SOME PART OF THEIR
00:55:06.536 --> 00:55:08.538
PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS WE MAKE
00:55:08.605 --> 00:55:09.773
THOSE POOR REFERRALS.
00:55:09.839 --> 00:55:11.675
VERY GOOD THANK YOU THAT'S VERY
00:55:11.741 --> 00:55:12.208
HELPFUL.
00:55:12.275 --> 00:55:14.411
VERY COVERAGE OF WHEN YOU DO A
00:55:14.477 --> 00:55:16.479
SURVEY WHEN YOU DO A A
00:55:16.546 --> 00:55:18.048
INVESTIGATION OR OR BUT WHEN
00:55:18.114 --> 00:55:19.816
YOU'D CERTIFICATION HOW MUCH
00:55:19.883 --> 00:55:20.316
TIME DO YOU SPEND AT THE
00:55:20.383 --> 00:55:21.451
FACILITY.
00:55:21.518 --> 00:55:23.286
A IT OBSCENE PINS ON HOW BIG
00:55:23.353 --> 00:55:24.621
SLEEVES THAT IS FOCUSED SURVEY
00:55:24.688 --> 00:55:25.622
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A
00:55:25.689 --> 00:55:27.257
RECIPROCATION SURVEY COULD DAY
00:55:27.323 --> 00:55:28.792
COULD TAKE DAYS MAYBE A WEEK.
00:55:28.858 --> 00:55:30.593
A A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION COULD
00:55:30.660 --> 00:55:32.829
TAKE YOUR TWELVE TO FIFTEEN
00:55:32.896 --> 00:55:34.431
HOURS DEPENDING ON YOUR IN THE
00:55:34.497 --> 00:55:35.799
WOODEN NESTLE BE CONTINUOUS
00:55:35.865 --> 00:55:37.634
HOURS A. B. I'M THERE.
00:55:37.701 --> 00:55:39.569
I'M INTERVIEWING FOR THE STAFF
00:55:39.636 --> 00:55:42.305
THAN THE DEBUT SO THERE THERE
00:55:42.372 --> 00:55:43.306
MAY BE OTHER OPPORTUNISM
00:55:43.373 --> 00:55:45.942
MORTLOCK TRACES OBSERVE THE CARE
00:55:46.009 --> 00:55:47.210
AS I'M WALKING THROUGH THE
00:55:47.277 --> 00:55:48.778
HALLWAYS TO GET TO WHO WHERE I
00:55:48.845 --> 00:55:50.380
NEED TO BUT TYPICALLY ARE
00:55:50.447 --> 00:55:51.681
COMPLAIN S. KITCHENS ARE OUT THE
00:55:51.748 --> 00:55:53.883
OTHER TWELVE HOURS WORTH OF TIME.
00:55:53.950 --> 00:55:56.453
A TO COME TO OUR INVESTIGATIONS
00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:57.387
SOMETIMES ARE MORE BECAUSE OF
00:55:57.454 --> 00:55:58.521
THE WE WOULD NEED TO GO
00:55:58.588 --> 00:56:00.857
DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND AND AND
00:56:00.924 --> 00:56:02.592
DO MORE EXTENSIVE INTERVIEWS.
00:56:02.659 --> 00:56:03.993
YOU'D IMAGINE THEIR E. CASES
00:56:04.060 --> 00:56:05.428
WHERE YOU WILL FIND A PROBLEM
00:56:05.495 --> 00:56:07.063
YOU DO AND TURN IT TO THE
00:56:07.130 --> 00:56:08.164
MEDICAL BOARD AND IF THERE IS A
00:56:08.231 --> 00:56:09.165
VIOLATION.
00:56:09.232 --> 00:56:11.101
OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY YOU TURN IT
00:56:11.167 --> 00:56:13.336
OVER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT CRASH --
00:56:13.403 --> 00:56:14.471
OTHER CASES.
00:56:14.537 --> 00:56:15.805
I MEAN IS THERE A LINE THAT YOU
00:56:15.872 --> 00:56:18.041
HAVE WHERE.
00:56:18.108 --> 00:56:19.542
HE YOU KNOW HOW I GUESS OF
00:56:19.609 --> 00:56:21.277
TRYING TO FIND OTHER CASES ARE
00:56:21.344 --> 00:56:23.113
AREAS WE DO NOT REPORT IT TO THE
00:56:23.179 --> 00:56:25.815
MEDICAL BOARD OR IF IT'S YOU
00:56:25.882 --> 00:56:27.350
KNOW WHERE WHERE WOULD.
00:56:27.417 --> 00:56:28.218
THAT OR ARE THERE AREAS WHERE
00:56:28.284 --> 00:56:30.186
THAT.
00:56:30.253 --> 00:56:32.288
ALSO I THINK I THINK THE ANSWER
00:56:32.355 --> 00:56:33.923
IS NO THERE THERE IS NO LINE I
00:56:33.990 --> 00:56:35.325
MEAN I'VE SEEN OUR STAFF WHICH
00:56:35.391 --> 00:56:36.760
IS WE HAVE OVER SEVEN HUNDRED
00:56:36.826 --> 00:56:37.961
SURVEYOR SO GETTING THEM TO BE
00:56:38.027 --> 00:56:39.896
CONSISTENT AND THE THE
00:56:39.963 --> 00:56:42.298
EDIFICATION AND THE REFERRALS IS
00:56:42.365 --> 00:56:44.467
IS PART OF WHAT WE CASA WORK ON
00:56:44.534 --> 00:56:44.634
IS.
00:56:44.701 --> 00:56:46.736
IS CONSISTENCY OF APPLICATION OF
00:56:46.803 --> 00:56:48.304
WHEN TO MAKE THIS REFERRALS.
00:56:48.371 --> 00:56:53.076
THOUGH IT AGAIN IF WE IN MOSTAR --
00:56:53.143 --> 00:56:54.511
PFAFF SERVING STAFF ARE NURSES
00:56:54.577 --> 00:56:56.346
AND AND AND POSITIONS AND SOME
00:56:56.412 --> 00:56:57.881
OF PHARMACISTS WE HAVE A LOT OF
00:56:57.947 --> 00:57:00.383
CLINICAL STAFF ON ON ON ON STEPH.
00:57:00.450 --> 00:57:02.085
THEY KINDA KNOW THE LINES THAT
00:57:02.152 --> 00:57:04.087
WOULD WOULD TENDS TO WHERE WE
00:57:04.154 --> 00:57:04.754
WOULD NEED TO MAKE A POOR
00:57:04.821 --> 00:57:07.357
REFERRAL SO OUR PRACTICES THAT
00:57:07.423 --> 00:57:08.725
IF ANYTHING AND BRIDGES.
00:57:08.792 --> 00:57:10.927
OF THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS OF
00:57:10.994 --> 00:57:12.262
LICENSED PROFESSIONAL THEN WE
00:57:12.328 --> 00:57:14.097
WOULD MAKE THOSE REFERRALS.
00:57:14.164 --> 00:57:18.868
OKAY IN IT THANK YOU AND AND IT.
00:57:18.935 --> 00:57:20.870
VERY GOOD QUESTION CAME TO MIND
00:57:20.937 --> 00:57:22.572
AND REQUIRE ACT THAT REMINDED ME
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:24.474
OF OF THE THE PREVIOUS
00:57:24.541 --> 00:57:27.510
DISCUSSION AND THAT'S AND THE
00:57:27.577 --> 00:57:32.048
ISSUE OF AND WE'VE SEEN IT IN IN
00:57:32.115 --> 00:57:34.217
THE CONTRACTING LAW RELATED TO
00:57:34.284 --> 00:57:36.419
DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION AND
00:57:36.486 --> 00:57:37.720
SETTLEMENTS AND I KNOW.
00:57:37.787 --> 00:57:38.988
IN LOOKING AT THE THE GREAT
00:57:39.055 --> 00:57:40.657
BACKGROUND PAPER THAT WE WERE
00:57:40.723 --> 00:57:42.625
LOOKING AT THAT THERE ARE
00:57:42.692 --> 00:57:43.893
REQUIREMENTS FOR SETTLEMENTS.
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.397
OVER CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT --
00:57:47.463 --> 00:57:50.333
VICTOR FOR PHYSICIANS AND AND
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.235
PODIATRIC MEDICINE THOSE LICENSE
00:57:52.302 --> 00:57:53.303
IN THAT BOARD --
00:57:53.369 --> 00:57:55.371
OR ARBITRATION AWARDS ARE CIVIL
00:57:55.438 --> 00:57:56.940
JUDGMENTS OF ANY AMOUNT.
00:57:57.006 --> 00:57:58.441
A E. THE QUESTION COMES TO MIND
00:57:58.508 --> 00:58:00.743
IF THERE ARE.
00:58:00.810 --> 00:58:02.345
SETTLEMENTS IN A OF I THINK THIS
00:58:02.412 --> 00:58:03.980
IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR
00:58:04.047 --> 00:58:04.347
EVERYONE OTHER.
00:58:04.414 --> 00:58:06.349
CERTAIN.
00:58:06.416 --> 00:58:07.750
YOU KNOW NON DISCLOSURE
00:58:07.817 --> 00:58:09.285
AGREEMENTS THAT THE THE MEDICAL
00:58:09.352 --> 00:58:09.485
BOARD.
00:58:09.552 --> 00:58:13.623
OF THAT IF WE ARE THERE THAT MAY
00:58:13.690 --> 00:58:14.858
BE PART OF THOSE SETTLEMENTS
00:58:14.924 --> 00:58:16.893
THAT PREVENT THINGS TO COME FROM
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:19.495
COMING TO YOU OR THAT WOULD.
00:58:19.562 --> 00:58:21.898
GONNA OBSTACLE NOT IN THAT ARENA
00:58:21.965 --> 00:58:23.233
BECAUSE ACTUALLY WE HAVE A
00:58:23.299 --> 00:58:25.602
SECTION OF LA AND I CAN'T COOLEY
00:58:25.668 --> 00:58:26.703
THE SECTION RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF
00:58:26.769 --> 00:58:28.404
MY HEAD SENATOR BUT ON THERE'S A
00:58:28.471 --> 00:58:30.373
LOT OF THE IT'S THE THE GAG
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:31.774
CLAUSE THERE CANNOT DO THAT HOME
00:58:31.841 --> 00:58:33.142
IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL AND DURING.
00:58:33.209 --> 00:58:36.145
SETTLEMENT TO HAVE A PATIENTS
00:58:36.212 --> 00:58:36.546
COMETA [inaudible]
00:58:36.613 --> 00:58:38.748
LA.
00:58:38.815 --> 00:58:39.549
COMPLETE TO THE MENTALLY
00:58:39.616 --> 00:58:40.450
REMEMBER THAT LAW THAT YEAH THAT
00:58:40.516 --> 00:58:40.717
LONG AGO.
00:58:40.783 --> 00:58:43.853
THAT'S BUSINESS AND CODE SECTION
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.356
TWO TWO TWO ZERO POINT.
00:58:46.422 --> 00:58:47.290
SEVEN EVERYONE ALWAYS NEEDS AN
00:58:47.357 --> 00:58:49.125
ATTORNEY RIGHT NOW.
00:58:49.192 --> 00:58:51.661
GOAT THANK YOU LETTER --
00:58:51.728 --> 00:58:53.496
SO THAT THOSE WHO CAN'T BE A GAG
00:58:53.563 --> 00:58:57.000
CLAUSE OR OF NON DISCLOSURE PART
00:58:57.066 --> 00:58:58.134
OF ANY OF THOSE SETTLEMENTS THAT
00:58:58.201 --> 00:58:59.335
ARE SOMEHOW.
00:58:59.402 --> 00:59:02.872
HOW WOULD THAT FIT IN THEM?
00:59:02.939 --> 00:59:05.675
IF IT WERE A PHYSICIAN WHO.
00:59:05.742 --> 00:59:08.278
I HAPPENED TO BE TERMINATED OR
00:59:08.344 --> 00:59:09.545
SETTLED UNEMPLOYMENT
00:59:09.612 --> 00:59:09.846
[inaudible]
00:59:09.913 --> 00:59:11.881
CASE.
00:59:11.948 --> 00:59:13.383
SO IF THEY WERE TERMINATED IN
00:59:13.449 --> 00:59:14.817
THEY HAD PEER REVIEW IT WOULD
00:59:14.884 --> 00:59:16.452
FALL INTO THE EIGHT OH FIVE
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:17.320
REPORTING.
00:59:17.387 --> 00:59:19.355
NOT INTO THE EIGHT A ONE POINT
00:59:19.422 --> 00:59:21.190
OH ONE SECTION OF MALPRACTICE
00:59:21.257 --> 00:59:22.825
MOVIES A FIVE SETTLEMENTS
00:59:22.892 --> 00:59:24.127
JUDGMENTS ARBITRATION HICH YEAH.
00:59:24.193 --> 00:59:25.194
THAT WOULD BE IN EIGHT OH FIVE
00:59:25.261 --> 00:59:26.195
REPORT LET'S SAY THERE WAS A
00:59:26.262 --> 00:59:28.031
SETTLEMENT IN THEY THEY LEFT
00:59:28.097 --> 00:59:30.733
WITHOUT ADMITTING ANYTHING.
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:31.968
SO THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE PEER
00:59:32.035 --> 00:59:34.203
REVIEW ENTITY TO DETERMINE DOES
00:59:34.270 --> 00:59:35.638
IT FIT INTO THE EIGHT A FIVE
00:59:35.705 --> 00:59:37.573
REPORTING REQUIREMENT BECAUSE
00:59:37.640 --> 00:59:39.075
THAT WOULD BE THEY RESIGNED.
00:59:39.142 --> 00:59:40.877
THEN THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND
00:59:40.944 --> 00:59:42.979
LOOK AT I MEAN OBVIOUSLY NOT
00:59:43.046 --> 00:59:45.081
PLEASE REALLY ACTION ARE NOT
00:59:45.148 --> 00:59:45.548
MISTER BROWN DESPITE.
00:59:45.615 --> 00:59:47.817
YES THEN THAT WOULD BE WITH
00:59:47.884 --> 00:59:49.419
SOMEONE YOU FALL INTO FOUR WHERE
00:59:49.485 --> 00:59:50.053
YOU HAVE THE EIGHT A ONE POINT
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:50.687
OH ONE THAT WOULD COME IN FOR
00:59:50.753 --> 00:59:52.922
THE SETTLEMENT AND IT'S OVER
00:59:52.989 --> 00:59:53.656
THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS THIRTY
00:59:53.723 --> 00:59:54.724
THOUSAND OR MORE --
00:59:54.791 --> 00:59:55.792
OR IF IT WAS A JUDGMENT
00:59:55.858 --> 00:59:57.193
ARBITRATION WORK IT WOULD COME
00:59:57.260 --> 00:59:58.461
IN UNDER THAT AND THEN OF THE
00:59:58.528 --> 00:59:59.696
FACILITY P. ALSO RESIGNED
00:59:59.762 --> 01:00:00.930
BECAUSE THEY WERE INVESTIGATING
01:00:00.997 --> 01:00:02.398
THAT ISSUE --
01:00:02.465 --> 01:00:03.566
THAN THEY WOULD HAVE TO REPORT
01:00:03.633 --> 01:00:05.368
AS LONG AS THEY MET YOU KNOW FIT
01:00:05.435 --> 01:00:07.837
INTO ALL OF THE FEET EIGHT OH
01:00:07.904 --> 01:00:09.005
FIVE REPORTING REQUIREMENT.
01:00:09.072 --> 01:00:10.306
OKAY IN THAT WOULD THAT WOULD
01:00:10.373 --> 01:00:11.407
ELIMINATE THAT.
01:00:11.474 --> 01:00:14.010
THE GAG CLAUSE IN THE NON
01:00:14.077 --> 01:00:14.911
DISCLOSURE ORDER.
01:00:14.978 --> 01:00:16.079
AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN
01:00:16.145 --> 01:00:18.748
ACTION AGAINST A PHYSICIAN --
01:00:18.815 --> 01:00:21.417
FOR BUT DOING A GAG CLAUSE EVEN
01:00:21.484 --> 01:00:23.086
COME INTO A FACT SO IT'S
01:00:23.152 --> 01:00:23.720
SOMETHING WE LOOK AT YOU KNOW
01:00:23.786 --> 01:00:24.754
AGAIN THERE.
01:00:24.821 --> 01:00:26.189
WE MIGHT NOT KNOW THOUGH YOU
01:00:26.255 --> 01:00:28.024
KNOW BECAUSE IF THEY TELL THE
01:00:28.091 --> 01:00:29.258
PATIENT THAT AND THEN WE NEVER
01:00:29.325 --> 01:00:30.760
FIND OUT ABOUT IT.
01:00:30.827 --> 01:00:33.363
I MEAN WE WOULDN'T KNOW THE GOOD
01:00:33.429 --> 01:00:35.031
THING IS IS THAT IF WE GET THE
01:00:35.098 --> 01:00:36.132
THE THE SETTLEMENT AND WE CAN
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:38.201
LOOK INTO IT.
01:00:38.267 --> 01:00:39.035
NOW WE GET JUST SO YOU KNOW WE
01:00:39.102 --> 01:00:41.337
GET ABOUT SIX HUNDRED ANYWHERE
01:00:41.404 --> 01:00:42.705
BETWEEN SIX HUNDRED AND SEVEN
01:00:42.772 --> 01:00:44.540
HUNDRED MALPRACTICE --
01:00:44.607 --> 01:00:46.275
SETTLEMENT ARBITRATION AND
01:00:46.342 --> 01:00:49.145
JUDGEMENTAL BOARDS THAT WEEK.
01:00:49.212 --> 01:00:51.080
WE'RE GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH
01:00:51.147 --> 01:00:52.281
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TO VOTE
01:00:52.348 --> 01:00:53.649
VERY [inaudible]
01:00:53.716 --> 01:00:58.788
GREAT INFORMATION. FOR COMMENTS --
01:00:58.855 --> 01:01:00.656
SO.
01:01:00.723 --> 01:01:02.625
NOW I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE
01:01:02.692 --> 01:01:03.493
ACTUAL FORMER STATE ENATOR
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:04.560
MARTHA IS GOOD YEAH VICE
01:01:04.627 --> 01:01:05.395
PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT
01:01:05.461 --> 01:01:07.630
RELATIONS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
01:01:07.697 --> 01:01:09.665
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PLEASE.
01:01:09.732 --> 01:01:10.900
COME FORWARD MADAME SENATOR
01:01:10.967 --> 01:01:12.769
PLEASURE TO SEE YOU.
01:01:12.835 --> 01:01:13.870
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN IT'S
01:01:13.936 --> 01:01:15.138
BEEN AWHILE.
01:01:15.204 --> 01:01:17.106
IT HAS BEEN THAT I'VE BEEN HERE
01:01:17.173 --> 01:01:19.175
IN THIS BUILDING BUT ACTUALLY
01:01:19.242 --> 01:01:28.217
SOME OF AMAZING YEARS OF MY LIFE.
01:01:28.284 --> 01:01:29.218
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIRMAN
01:01:29.285 --> 01:01:30.920
MONEY OF MY NAME IS MIKE THIS
01:01:30.987 --> 01:01:31.954
GOOD YET VICE PRESIDENT FOR
01:01:32.021 --> 01:01:33.723
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS AT THE
01:01:33.790 --> 01:01:34.190
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN
01:01:34.257 --> 01:01:35.625
CALIFORNIA.
01:01:35.691 --> 01:01:37.193
AND I'M BEHALF OF U. S. B..
01:01:37.260 --> 01:01:38.928
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR
01:01:38.995 --> 01:01:41.297
THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY.
01:01:41.364 --> 01:01:42.799
LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME
01:01:42.865 --> 01:01:44.434
THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US AS WELL AS
01:01:44.500 --> 01:01:45.535
YOU STAFF IN TRYING TO MAKE THIS
01:01:45.601 --> 01:01:48.137
A A POSITIVE HEARING.
01:01:48.204 --> 01:01:49.272
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO
01:01:49.338 --> 01:01:51.207
IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL POLICY
01:01:51.274 --> 01:01:52.275
CHANGES THAT WILL BENEFIT ALL
01:01:52.341 --> 01:01:53.142
CALIFORNIA SO WE THANK YOU SO
01:01:53.209 --> 01:01:55.144
MUCH. FOR YOUR GREAT EFFORT IN
01:01:55.211 --> 01:01:57.647
THAT.
01:01:57.713 --> 01:01:58.748
OBVIOUSLY THE UNIVERSITIES
01:01:58.815 --> 01:02:00.683
EXTREMELY SORRY.
01:02:00.750 --> 01:02:02.452
THAT OUR CURRENT AND FORMER
01:02:02.518 --> 01:02:04.587
STUDENTS HAD TO INDOOR.
01:02:04.654 --> 01:02:06.089
THIS IT THIS EXPERIENCE FROM
01:02:06.155 --> 01:02:07.990
DOCTOR KENDALL.
01:02:08.057 --> 01:02:08.658
WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES
01:02:08.724 --> 01:02:11.394
IN LEADERSHIP.
01:02:11.461 --> 01:02:13.096
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
01:02:13.162 --> 01:02:14.564
AT THE STUDENT HEALTH CENTER.
01:02:14.630 --> 01:02:16.365
AND WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THIS
01:02:16.432 --> 01:02:18.034
WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
01:02:18.101 --> 01:02:19.969
MISTER CHAIRMAN WE ARE COMMITTED
01:02:20.036 --> 01:02:21.104
TO MAKINGOUR STUDENT HEALTH
01:02:21.170 --> 01:02:23.439
FACILITY THE GOLD STANDARD FOR
01:02:23.506 --> 01:02:24.974
OTHER UNIVERSITIES TO FOLLOW.
01:02:25.041 --> 01:02:26.442
AND TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND THE
01:02:26.509 --> 01:02:27.677
WELL BEING OF EVERYONE IN OUR
01:02:27.743 --> 01:02:29.278
COMMUNITY.
01:02:29.345 --> 01:02:32.448
NOW I HAVE HERE WITH ME --
01:02:32.515 --> 01:02:34.917
OUR OF COUNCIL UP MISTER KEITH
01:02:34.984 --> 01:02:36.352
CARLSON WHO IS A PARTNER FOR
01:02:36.419 --> 01:02:37.587
HELP LAW FIRM.
01:02:37.653 --> 01:02:40.423
OF CARLSON AND GIANT WHO MARK.
01:02:40.490 --> 01:02:42.458
HE IS US HE'S OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
01:02:42.525 --> 01:02:43.059
AND HE WILL TESTIFY AS TO THE
01:02:43.126 --> 01:02:46.863
STRUCTURE THAT'S VERY UNIQUE TO
01:02:46.929 --> 01:02:48.264
U. S. THE IN THE SENSE THAT IT
01:02:48.331 --> 01:02:49.132
IS LIKE YOU WITH THE ACADEMIC
01:02:49.198 --> 01:02:50.299
MEDICAL CENTER.
01:02:50.366 --> 01:02:51.601
HE WILL TESTIFY ALSO BUT I
01:02:51.667 --> 01:02:53.336
STUDENT HEALTH CENTER AND THE
01:02:53.402 --> 01:02:55.004
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS TO THE
01:02:55.071 --> 01:02:56.072
MEDICAL BOARD [inaudible]
01:02:56.139 --> 01:02:57.940
WILSON.
01:02:58.007 --> 01:02:59.175
WELCOME MR GARCIA THANK YOU
01:02:59.242 --> 01:03:00.443
THANK YOU AREN'T MISTER CHAIRMAN
01:03:00.510 --> 01:03:01.577
THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE
01:03:01.644 --> 01:03:02.612
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK OUT TO THIS
01:03:02.678 --> 01:03:04.046
COMMITTEE.
01:03:04.113 --> 01:03:04.547
WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE
01:03:04.614 --> 01:03:07.083
INSTRUCTIVE TO BEGIN BY LOOKING --
01:03:07.150 --> 01:03:08.751
AT THE STRUCTURE OF HEALTH CARE
01:03:08.818 --> 01:03:11.888
AT USC IT'S AN ACADEMIC MEDICAL
01:03:11.954 --> 01:03:13.589
CENTER AS SENATORS COULD YOU
01:03:13.656 --> 01:03:15.925
EXPLAIN IT STRUCTURE ALLOWS IT
01:03:15.992 --> 01:03:17.860
TO DIRECTLY EMPLOY THE DOCTORS
01:03:17.927 --> 01:03:19.295
AND NURSES WORKING AT THE
01:03:19.362 --> 01:03:20.730
STUDENT HEALTH CENTER.
01:03:20.796 --> 01:03:22.298
AND AT THE HEALTH SYSTEM.
01:03:22.365 --> 01:03:24.534
A EMPLOYED PHYSICIANS ARE
01:03:24.600 --> 01:03:26.269
SUBJECT TO HUMAN RESOURCES
01:03:26.335 --> 01:03:28.337
POLICIES LIKE ALL OTHER
01:03:28.404 --> 01:03:30.273
EMPLOYEES OF THE UNIVERSITY.
01:03:30.339 --> 01:03:31.974
I HOWEVER THE FACULTY PHYSICIANS
01:03:32.041 --> 01:03:34.043
AT THE USC HEALTH SYSTEM ARE
01:03:34.110 --> 01:03:35.845
ALSO MEMBERS OF AN INDEPENDENT
01:03:35.912 --> 01:03:37.413
MEDICAL STAFF AND ARE SUBJECT TO
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:38.814
PEER REVIEW.
01:03:38.881 --> 01:03:41.150
UNTIL TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN
01:03:41.217 --> 01:03:42.285
THOUGH THE STUDENT HEALTH CENTER
01:03:42.351 --> 01:03:43.753
STAFF WAS NOT PART OF THE
01:03:43.819 --> 01:03:45.621
OVERALL HEALTH SYSTEM.
01:03:45.688 --> 01:03:48.925
AT THE TIME OF THE U. S. SEES
01:03:48.991 --> 01:03:49.358
TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN
01:03:49.425 --> 01:03:50.960
INVESTIGATION INVOLVING GEORGE
01:03:51.027 --> 01:03:51.761
TYNDALL.
01:03:51.827 --> 01:03:53.763
HE HE WAS HANDLED SOLELY THROUGH
01:03:53.829 --> 01:03:56.232
U. S. SEES HR PROCESS AND
01:03:56.299 --> 01:03:58.401
TREATED LIKE ANY OTHER EMPLOYEES.
01:03:58.467 --> 01:03:59.702
SUBJECT TO PEER REVIEW.
01:03:59.769 --> 01:04:03.005
IN THAT WAY IN TWO THOUSAND
01:04:03.072 --> 01:04:04.540
SIXTEEN USC'S STUDENT HEALTH
01:04:04.607 --> 01:04:06.175
CENTER WAS LIKE MOST OTHER
01:04:06.242 --> 01:04:07.443
STUDENT HEALTH CENTERS SCOTT
01:04:07.510 --> 01:04:07.944
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
01:04:08.010 --> 01:04:09.378
CALIFORNIA.
01:04:09.445 --> 01:04:11.581
NOW UNCONNECTED TO THE SITUATION
01:04:11.647 --> 01:04:14.083
AROUND DOCTOR TENDO IN TWO
01:04:14.150 --> 01:04:14.884
THOUSAND SIXTEEN ALSO.
01:04:14.951 --> 01:04:16.185
THE UNIVERSITY SENIOR
01:04:16.252 --> 01:04:18.187
ADMINISTRATION BEGAN STUDYING
01:04:18.254 --> 01:04:19.589
WHETHER IT COULD FULL THE
01:04:19.655 --> 01:04:21.791
STUDENT HEALTH CENTER INTO THE
01:04:21.857 --> 01:04:23.659
LARGER HEALTH SYSTEM TO PROVIDE
01:04:23.726 --> 01:04:25.695
AN ALIGNMENT OF ALL EMPLOYEE
01:04:25.761 --> 01:04:26.796
DOCTORS.
01:04:26.862 --> 01:04:28.497
AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL POSITION
01:04:28.564 --> 01:04:30.233
OVERSIGHT OF THE STUDENT HEALTH
01:04:30.299 --> 01:04:32.134
CENTER THIS REORGANIZATION WAS
01:04:32.201 --> 01:04:33.169
LAUNCHED THEN --
01:04:33.236 --> 01:04:36.906
WHEN IT WAS COMPLETED IN?
01:04:36.973 --> 01:04:37.540
TWO THOUSAND SEVENTY DON'T KNOW
01:04:37.607 --> 01:04:40.376
HEALTHCARE ENTITIES HR PROCESS
01:04:40.443 --> 01:04:41.844
IS SUBJECT TO THE BUSINESS AND
01:04:41.911 --> 01:04:43.512
PROFESSIONS CODE EIGHT OH FIVE
01:04:43.579 --> 01:04:45.014
OR EIGHT OR NINE STATUTES THAT
01:04:45.081 --> 01:04:45.548
WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS
01:04:45.615 --> 01:04:46.749
MORNING.
01:04:46.816 --> 01:04:50.019
HR PROFESSIONALS ARE NOT DOCTORS
01:04:50.086 --> 01:04:52.688
OPINING ON THE QUALITY OF CARE
01:04:52.755 --> 01:04:54.957
SO THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GIVE
01:04:55.024 --> 01:04:56.525
THE EMPLOYEE DOCTOR THE DUE
01:04:56.592 --> 01:04:58.261
PROCESS RIGHTS THAT ARE AFFORDED
01:04:58.327 --> 01:04:59.962
UNDER EIGHT OR NINE WHICH
01:05:00.029 --> 01:05:00.930
APPLIES TO ALL THE PEER REVIEW
01:05:00.997 --> 01:05:02.632
BODIES.
01:05:02.698 --> 01:05:04.267
HR PROFESSIONALS IN THEIR BY IN
01:05:04.333 --> 01:05:05.701
THE CORPORATE EMPLOYERS ARE NOT
01:05:05.768 --> 01:05:07.870
PEERS OF THE DOCTORS AND THUS
01:05:07.937 --> 01:05:09.572
THERE IS NO BASIS TO REPORT ANY
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:12.074
TERMINATION. TO THE MEDICAL
01:05:12.141 --> 01:05:14.043
BOARD UNDER EIGHT OH FIVE VIA
01:05:14.110 --> 01:05:17.580
THE HR ROUTE.
01:05:17.647 --> 01:05:19.882
THE FACT THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO
01:05:19.949 --> 01:05:21.751
SEND OUR DOCTORS THROUGH PEER
01:05:21.817 --> 01:05:23.552
REVIEW MEANS.
01:05:23.619 --> 01:05:25.254
THAT WE CAN TAKE MUCH FASTER
01:05:25.321 --> 01:05:26.722
ACTION FROM AN EMPLOYMENT
01:05:26.789 --> 01:05:27.723
STANDPOINT.
01:05:27.790 --> 01:05:29.692
AND AS YOU'LL RECALL FROM THE
01:05:29.759 --> 01:05:30.793
LEGISLATURE'S --
01:05:30.860 --> 01:05:33.863
LOW MATTRESS STUDY FROM --
01:05:33.929 --> 01:05:34.497
TWO THOUSAND EIGHT THAT STUDIES
01:05:34.563 --> 01:05:36.565
SHOW THAT IT GENERALLY TAKES TWO
01:05:36.632 --> 01:05:38.868
TO FIVE YEARS FOR PHYSICIANS WHO
01:05:38.934 --> 01:05:40.903
ARE SENT THROUGH PEER REVIEW --
01:05:40.970 --> 01:05:42.338
TO BE REMOVED AND REPORTED TO
01:05:42.405 --> 01:05:43.739
THE MEDICAL BOARD.
01:05:43.806 --> 01:05:46.142
ABOUT ADDING TO THAT DELAY
01:05:46.208 --> 01:05:48.311
SECTION EIGHT OR NINE ALSO MAKES
01:05:48.377 --> 01:05:50.479
EXPLICIT THAT THE INTENT OF THE
01:05:50.546 --> 01:05:52.515
LEGISLATURE THAT PEER REVIEW
01:05:52.581 --> 01:05:53.249
HAVE AN EMPHASIS ON EARLY
01:05:53.316 --> 01:05:54.750
DETECTION.
01:05:54.817 --> 01:05:56.686
AND RESOLUTIONS THROUGH INFORMAL
01:05:56.752 --> 01:05:59.388
EDUCATIONAL INTERVENTIONS.
01:05:59.455 --> 01:06:00.256
THEREFORE.
01:06:00.323 --> 01:06:02.458
IT CAN BE YEARS OF EDUCATIONAL
01:06:02.525 --> 01:06:04.393
ATTEMPTS TO REMEDY A POTENTIAL
01:06:04.460 --> 01:06:06.462
PROBLEM PHYSICIAN BEFORE A
01:06:06.529 --> 01:06:08.431
QUALITY OR BEHAVIORAL ISSUE
01:06:08.497 --> 01:06:09.498
RISES TO THE LEVEL OF A
01:06:09.565 --> 01:06:11.534
TERMINATION.
01:06:11.600 --> 01:06:13.202
SO GIVEN THOSE PERCENT UP
01:06:13.269 --> 01:06:15.404
POTENTIAL DELAYS IN THE PROCESS
01:06:15.471 --> 01:06:17.606
WHICH ARE REQUIRED BY STATUTE --
01:06:17.673 --> 01:06:19.575
THE PEER REVIEW PROCESS IS NOT
01:06:19.642 --> 01:06:22.011
OFTEN THE QUICKEST WAY TO REMOVE
01:06:22.078 --> 01:06:23.779
A DOCTOR FROM EMPLOYMENT.
01:06:23.846 --> 01:06:25.014
THE DOCTOR DOESN'T THE
01:06:25.081 --> 01:06:26.749
ENVIRONMENT WE EXPECT FOR OUR
01:06:26.816 --> 01:06:28.684
STUDENTS.
01:06:28.751 --> 01:06:30.453
SO FAR MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:31.921
TERMINATE DOCTORS WHO CREATE A
01:06:31.987 --> 01:06:33.889
HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT REGARDLESS
01:06:33.956 --> 01:06:35.691
OF THEIR QUALITY OF CARE.
01:06:35.758 --> 01:06:37.860
IS VIA HUMAN RESOURCES --
01:06:37.927 --> 01:06:39.862
BECAUSE USC IS AS I MENTIONED
01:06:39.929 --> 01:06:42.498
ACADEMIC MEDICAL CENTER USC'S HR
01:06:42.565 --> 01:06:44.900
CAN AND DID INVESTIGATE
01:06:44.967 --> 01:06:46.535
COMPLAINTS OF TYNDALE'S VERBAL
01:06:46.602 --> 01:06:48.704
COMMENTS AND MADE A DISCIPLINARY
01:06:48.771 --> 01:06:51.640
DECISION WITHOUT THE EIGHT OH
01:06:51.707 --> 01:06:53.275
NINE DUE PROCESS PROCEDURES.
01:06:53.342 --> 01:06:56.312
USC'S PROCESS WORKED EFFICIENTLY --
01:06:56.379 --> 01:06:58.080
NGUYEN HR LEARNED OF THE
01:06:58.147 --> 01:06:59.949
POTENTIAL HARASSMENT COMPLAINT.
01:07:00.015 --> 01:07:01.917
WHICH WAS MADE BY A NURSE ABOUT
01:07:01.984 --> 01:07:03.619
DOCTOR TYNDALE'S VERBAL COMMENTS
01:07:03.686 --> 01:07:07.423
TO A PATIENT AND MADE TO AN HR --
01:07:07.490 --> 01:07:09.358
OFFICIAL THE DOCTOR WAS
01:07:09.425 --> 01:07:11.594
SUSPENDED AND REMOVED --
01:07:11.660 --> 01:07:13.729
FROM THE PATIENT SETTING UP
01:07:13.796 --> 01:07:15.297
PENDING THE INVESTIGATION.
01:07:15.364 --> 01:07:17.700
SO IN FACT FROM THE TIME IN JUNE
01:07:17.767 --> 01:07:19.568
OF TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN ON WERE
01:07:19.635 --> 01:07:21.170
DOCTOR TOTAL NEVER SAW ANOTHER
01:07:21.237 --> 01:07:22.772
USC STUDENT.
01:07:22.838 --> 01:07:25.207
AT THE END OF THE TWO THOUSAND
01:07:25.274 --> 01:07:26.308
SIXTEEN INVESTIGATION OF DOCTOR
01:07:26.375 --> 01:07:28.744
TENDO USC HAD NO REPORTS FROM
01:07:28.811 --> 01:07:29.445
PATIENTS OF ACTUAL SEXUAL
01:07:29.512 --> 01:07:31.380
MISCONDUCT.
01:07:31.447 --> 01:07:33.115
DOCTOR TO THE VEHEMENTLY DENIED
01:07:33.182 --> 01:07:34.383
HE HAD DONE ANYTHING IMPROPER
01:07:34.450 --> 01:07:36.085
AND CLAIMED HE WAS ACTUALLY THE
01:07:36.152 --> 01:07:37.486
SUBJECT OF RETALIATION FOR BEING
01:07:37.553 --> 01:07:39.955
A WHISTLEBLOWER.
01:07:40.022 --> 01:07:41.090
IF YOU DIDN'T FILED THE
01:07:41.157 --> 01:07:43.058
WHISTLEBLOWER LAWSUIT U. S. C.
01:07:43.125 --> 01:07:44.760
COULD BE FACING THE CHANCE THAT
01:07:44.827 --> 01:07:46.228
A COURT COULD ORDER HIS
01:07:46.295 --> 01:07:48.063
REINSTATEMENT.
01:07:48.130 --> 01:07:49.298
TO THE HEALTH CENTER AND THAT
01:07:49.365 --> 01:07:51.567
WAS UNACCEPTABLE TO U. S. C. SO
01:07:51.634 --> 01:07:52.902
WE CHOSE TO ENTER INTO A
01:07:52.968 --> 01:07:54.303
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. TO
01:07:54.370 --> 01:07:56.405
ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY OF HIM
01:07:56.472 --> 01:07:58.841
EVER BEING REINSTATED BY A COURT.
01:07:58.908 --> 01:08:00.609
AT THAT TIME DOCTOR TYNDALL LED
01:08:00.676 --> 01:08:01.811
U. S. C. TO BELIEVE HE WOULD BE
01:08:01.877 --> 01:08:03.045
RETIRING AS HE WAS SEVEN YEARS
01:08:03.112 --> 01:08:04.780
OLD.
01:08:04.847 --> 01:08:06.549
SO AS THE COMMITTEE NOW TURNS TO
01:08:06.615 --> 01:08:08.651
CONSIDER HOW THE EIGHT OH FIVE
01:08:08.717 --> 01:08:10.019
STATUTE AND REPORTING TO THE
01:08:10.085 --> 01:08:11.787
MEDICAL BOARD MIGHT BE IMPROVED
01:08:11.854 --> 01:08:12.922
USC WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME THE
01:08:12.988 --> 01:08:14.290
OPPORTUNITY.
01:08:14.356 --> 01:08:15.558
PARTICIPATE IN THAT DISCUSSION
01:08:15.624 --> 01:08:17.660
AND BE OF ASSISTANCE IN ANY WAY
01:08:17.726 --> 01:08:18.861
WE CAN.
01:08:18.928 --> 01:08:21.697
AT PRESENT EIGHT OH FIVE AS YOU
01:08:21.764 --> 01:08:23.532
YOU HAVE NOTED IN YOUR QUESTIONS
01:08:23.599 --> 01:08:25.201
AND COMMENTS IT'S NOT A CATCH
01:08:25.267 --> 01:08:25.968
ALL.
01:08:26.035 --> 01:08:27.102
STATUE THAT WILL ALERT THE
01:08:27.169 --> 01:08:29.238
MEDICAL BOARD. TO EVERY
01:08:29.305 --> 01:08:31.040
POTENTIAL PROBLEM WITH EVERY
01:08:31.106 --> 01:08:32.741
PHYSICIAN IN CALIFORNIA.
01:08:32.808 --> 01:08:34.543
SPECIFICALLY WE BELIEVE THAT
01:08:34.610 --> 01:08:36.278
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO
01:08:36.345 --> 01:08:38.214
IMPROVE THE SYSTEM WITH RESPECT
01:08:38.280 --> 01:08:39.782
TO THE TIME REQUIRED.
01:08:39.849 --> 01:08:41.550
OF FOR NATO FIVE REPORT TO BE
01:08:41.617 --> 01:08:43.452
FILED TIME LIMITS COULD BE
01:08:43.519 --> 01:08:45.020
IMPOSED ON THE EIGHT OH NINE
01:08:45.087 --> 01:08:46.188
PROCESS VIA AMENDMENTS TO THE
01:08:46.255 --> 01:08:47.857
STATUTES.
01:08:47.923 --> 01:08:49.325
AND THE SUPER ALSO PROVIDE
01:08:49.391 --> 01:08:51.427
CLARITY TO EVERYONE INVOLVED AND
01:08:51.494 --> 01:08:54.263
LIKELY EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.
01:08:54.330 --> 01:08:55.064
YOU MIGHT ALSO CONSIDER
01:08:55.130 --> 01:08:56.732
EXPEDITED REVIEW REPORTING FOR
01:08:56.799 --> 01:08:57.967
REPEATED COMPLAINTS OF THE SAME
01:08:58.033 --> 01:08:59.768
NATURE.
01:08:59.835 --> 01:09:02.204
WHAT EIGHT OR NINE EXPLICITLY
01:09:02.271 --> 01:09:03.873
DIRECTS THE USE OF EDUCATION AS
01:09:03.939 --> 01:09:05.341
A REMEDY?
01:09:05.407 --> 01:09:07.443
IT MAY BE WISE TO CONSIDER A
01:09:07.510 --> 01:09:08.878
LIMIT TO THE NUMBER OF
01:09:08.944 --> 01:09:10.346
EDUCATIONAL REMEDIES BEFORE A
01:09:10.412 --> 01:09:12.815
REPORT MUST BE FILED --
01:09:12.882 --> 01:09:14.984
SOME OF THE DEAD THE LAY OF THE
01:09:15.050 --> 01:09:16.952
LIEU MATTRESS STUDY FOUND LIKELY
01:09:17.019 --> 01:09:18.888
STEMS FROM THE FACT THAT A
01:09:18.954 --> 01:09:20.022
DOCTOR COULD BE GIVEN AN
01:09:20.089 --> 01:09:21.590
EDUCATIONAL.
01:09:21.657 --> 01:09:24.326
REMEDY OR REMEDIES PLURAL WHICH
01:09:24.393 --> 01:09:26.529
DOESN'T NECESSARILY REPORT AND
01:09:26.595 --> 01:09:28.631
AND EIGHT OH FIVE REPORT.
01:09:28.697 --> 01:09:29.164
AS THE PRIOR WITNESSES OF
01:09:29.231 --> 01:09:30.833
EXPLAINED.
01:09:30.900 --> 01:09:32.501
ANOTHER IMPROVEMENT A COULD BE
01:09:32.568 --> 01:09:34.570
IN PROVIDING A CLEAR DEFINITION
01:09:34.637 --> 01:09:35.871
OF THE MISCONDUCT REQUIRING A
01:09:35.938 --> 01:09:37.406
REPORT.
01:09:37.473 --> 01:09:38.641
SO I PRESENT THERE'S AN
01:09:38.707 --> 01:09:40.442
EXPLORATORY AS YOU'VE ALREADY
01:09:40.509 --> 01:09:41.544
HEARD THIS MORNING FOR SEXUAL
01:09:41.610 --> 01:09:43.646
MISCONDUCT UNDER EIGHT OH FIVE
01:09:43.712 --> 01:09:45.114
POINT.
01:09:45.180 --> 01:09:46.248
ZERO ONE BUT THAT PHRASE ISN'T
01:09:46.315 --> 01:09:48.017
SPECIFICALLY DEFINED --
01:09:48.083 --> 01:09:50.219
AND MANY TIMES THAT'S GONNA BE
01:09:50.286 --> 01:09:51.053
UNDERSTOOD AS PHYSICAL
01:09:51.120 --> 01:09:52.688
MISCONDUCT AS OPPOSED TO SEXUAL
01:09:52.755 --> 01:09:55.090
HARASSMENT --
01:09:55.157 --> 01:09:56.692
THE CLEAR CUT EXAMPLE OF THEIR
01:09:56.759 --> 01:09:58.193
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WOULD BE
01:09:58.260 --> 01:10:00.095
HAVING SEX WITH A PATIENT.
01:10:00.162 --> 01:10:01.630
SOMETHING OF THAT EFFECT BUT NOT
01:10:01.697 --> 01:10:03.065
NECESSARILY VERBAL STATEMENTS OF
01:10:03.132 --> 01:10:05.167
THE CAUSE OFFENSE.
01:10:05.234 --> 01:10:07.636
VERBAL SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS NOT
01:10:07.703 --> 01:10:09.271
NECESSARILY OR EXPLAIN OR
01:10:09.338 --> 01:10:10.272
DEFINED IN THE STATUTE AS SEXUAL
01:10:10.339 --> 01:10:11.807
MISCONDUCT.
01:10:11.874 --> 01:10:14.343
AND VERBAL CONDUCT IS INTENDED
01:10:14.410 --> 01:10:15.878
BY THE LEGISLATURE THEN IT COULD
01:10:15.945 --> 01:10:17.446
CERTAINLY BETTER DEFINE WHAT IS
01:10:17.513 --> 01:10:18.948
REQUIRED UNDER EIGHT OH FIVE
01:10:19.014 --> 01:10:20.115
POINT.
01:10:20.182 --> 01:10:21.584
ZERO ONE NOW OBVIOUSLY IN IN OUR
01:10:21.650 --> 01:10:22.685
CASE WE'RE DEALING WITH A
01:10:22.751 --> 01:10:25.020
GYNECOLOGIST SO AN ISSUE OF
01:10:25.087 --> 01:10:26.922
DISCUSSING ANYTHING OF A SEXUAL
01:10:26.989 --> 01:10:28.624
NATURE CAN'T NECESSARILY BE THE
01:10:28.691 --> 01:10:29.792
STANDARD.
01:10:29.858 --> 01:10:31.493
OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT SEXUAL
01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:33.562
MISCONDUCT REPORT BECAUSE
01:10:33.629 --> 01:10:35.297
PHYSICIANS ARE STILL GONNA NEED
01:10:35.364 --> 01:10:37.366
TO DISCUSS SEXUAL ISSUES WITH
01:10:37.433 --> 01:10:38.601
PATIENTS GOING FORWARD.
01:10:38.667 --> 01:10:39.702
CLUB BUT THEY HAVE TO DO SO IN A
01:10:39.768 --> 01:10:41.236
PROFESSIONAL MANNER WHERE THE
01:10:41.303 --> 01:10:43.639
DISTINCTION MIGHT BE FOUND.
01:10:43.706 --> 01:10:44.340
FINALLY --
01:10:44.406 --> 01:10:46.542
USC WOULD VERY MUCH WELCOME
01:10:46.609 --> 01:10:48.544
PROTECTIONS FOR STUDENTS
01:10:48.611 --> 01:10:50.579
REPORTING POSITION MISCONDUCT
01:10:50.646 --> 01:10:52.114
ESPECIALLY IF THEY BELIEVE IT TO
01:10:52.181 --> 01:10:53.816
BE OF A SEXUAL NATURE.
01:10:53.882 --> 01:10:54.883
STUDENT HEALTH CENTERS IN
01:10:54.950 --> 01:10:56.986
CALIFORNIA WILL GENERALLY NOT
01:10:57.052 --> 01:10:58.887
HAVE A PEER REVIEW BODY --
01:10:58.954 --> 01:11:00.789
BUT IT MIGHT BE BETTER FOR
01:11:00.856 --> 01:11:03.025
STUDENTS IS SUCH IF SUCH CENTERS
01:11:03.092 --> 01:11:04.560
ARE INCLUDED IN THE REPORTING
01:11:04.627 --> 01:11:06.662
REQUIREMENTS.
01:11:06.729 --> 01:11:09.198
AS I MENTIONED USC HAS ALREADY
01:11:09.264 --> 01:11:10.032
REORGANIZE SO THAT IT'S STUDENT
01:11:10.099 --> 01:11:11.700
HEALTH PROVIDERS ARE NOW PART OF
01:11:11.767 --> 01:11:13.435
THE MEDICAL STAFF.
01:11:13.502 --> 01:11:14.837
BUT I BELIEVE MOST CENTERS IN
01:11:14.903 --> 01:11:16.605
CALIFORNIA GIVEN HOW SMALL THEY
01:11:16.672 --> 01:11:18.307
WOULD BE IN A IN.
01:11:18.374 --> 01:11:19.875
SMALL COLLEGE SETTINGS PUMP
01:11:19.942 --> 01:11:21.210
WON'T HAVE THE REPORTING
01:11:21.276 --> 01:11:23.078
REQUIREMENTS UNDER.
01:11:23.145 --> 01:11:23.612
EIGHT OH FIVE SO YOU MIGHT
01:11:23.679 --> 01:11:25.080
CONSIDER A SPECIAL CATEGORY
01:11:25.147 --> 01:11:26.215
UNDER THE CONSUMER COMPLAINT
01:11:26.281 --> 01:11:27.716
FORM OR OTHER SPECIALIZED FORM
01:11:27.783 --> 01:11:29.251
FOR STUDENTS --
01:11:29.318 --> 01:11:30.352
THERE IS SPECIAL TO STUDENT
01:11:30.419 --> 01:11:31.720
HEALTH CENTER REQUIREMENTS TO
01:11:31.787 --> 01:11:33.956
OFFER ENHANCED PROTECTIONS FOR
01:11:34.023 --> 01:11:34.990
STUDENTS IN THIS AREA.
01:11:35.057 --> 01:11:36.392
OUR AND WITHOUT I'D LIKE TO
01:11:36.458 --> 01:11:38.060
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND THE
01:11:38.127 --> 01:11:39.795
OPPORTUNITY --
01:11:39.862 --> 01:11:40.896
TO PRESENT THIS MORNING AND WE
01:11:40.963 --> 01:11:42.197
WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY
01:11:42.264 --> 01:11:43.932
TO WORK WITH YOU TO BETTER
01:11:43.999 --> 01:11:46.168
PROTECT STUDENTS AND WELCOME ANY.
01:11:46.235 --> 01:11:47.703
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT THANK YOU
01:11:47.770 --> 01:11:49.004
VERY MUCH RICHARD CARLSON IN THE
01:11:49.071 --> 01:11:51.340
AND SENATOR THANK YOU. FOR FOR
01:11:51.407 --> 01:11:53.175
BEING HERE AND AND I SAID IN THE
01:11:53.242 --> 01:11:54.143
STAGE FORCES MOVEMENT IN THE
01:11:54.209 --> 01:11:55.678
INTRODUCTION AND THE ANSWER THE
01:11:55.744 --> 01:11:57.713
CONCERNS THAT WE ALL FEEL AND
01:11:57.780 --> 01:11:59.381
UNDERSTAND FROM USC IN THIS IN
01:11:59.448 --> 01:12:01.116
THIS CASE IN THE SITUATION THAT
01:12:01.183 --> 01:12:03.986
THEY WE FIND OURSELVES IN OF IT
01:12:04.053 --> 01:12:04.920
IT SEEMS THAT.
01:12:04.987 --> 01:12:06.221
BECAUSE OF I GUESS THE STUDENT
01:12:06.288 --> 01:12:07.556
HEALTH CENTER.
01:12:07.623 --> 01:12:11.727
ASPECT OF IT THAT CAME IN BEFORE.
01:12:11.794 --> 01:12:14.530
THE THEN THE CHANGE OF STRUCTURE
01:12:14.596 --> 01:12:16.598
WAS AFTER DOCTOR TO THE WAS NO
01:12:16.665 --> 01:12:18.567
LONGER.
01:12:18.634 --> 01:12:20.502
WORKING THAT ARE PARTICIPATING
01:12:20.569 --> 01:12:23.138
IN THE CENTER THAT THE PROCESS
01:12:23.205 --> 01:12:24.273
ELAINE STUDENT COMING INTO LAST
01:12:24.339 --> 01:12:24.907
SEASON --
01:12:24.973 --> 01:12:26.642
THE PROCESS OF CONSIDERING THE
01:12:26.709 --> 01:12:29.044
NEW STRUCTURE BEGAN BEFORE THE
01:12:29.111 --> 01:12:31.480
INVESTIGATION OF HIM DID SO IT
01:12:31.547 --> 01:12:33.849
BUT IT WAS COINCIDENTAL TO THE
01:12:33.916 --> 01:12:35.284
COMPLAINT THAT WAS RECEIVED BY
01:12:35.350 --> 01:12:36.185
H. R..
01:12:36.251 --> 01:12:37.653
IT'S A IT'S A LARGER DISCUSSION
01:12:37.720 --> 01:12:38.987
OF REORGANIZING THE ENTIRE
01:12:39.054 --> 01:12:40.289
STUDENT HEALTH CENTER NOT
01:12:40.355 --> 01:12:42.524
RELATED TO ANY OF THIS ISSUE
01:12:42.591 --> 01:12:44.159
CORRECT.
01:12:44.226 --> 01:12:46.495
THEN IT THEN AND I LOOK AT WHERE
01:12:46.562 --> 01:12:48.864
DID WHERE DO YOU SEE THE SYSTEM
01:12:48.931 --> 01:12:50.199
BREAKING DOWN AND I APPRECIATE
01:12:50.265 --> 01:12:52.101
YOUR CANDOR TODAY ON ON THE
01:12:52.167 --> 01:12:52.701
ISSUES AND AND AND EVERYTHING
01:12:52.768 --> 01:12:54.837
BECAUSE WOULD WE'RE TRYING TO
01:12:54.903 --> 01:12:56.739
LEARN TO SEE HOW WE CAN.
01:12:56.805 --> 01:12:57.773
BETTER THE RIGHT TO ASIAN TO
01:12:57.840 --> 01:12:59.575
WHERE THE DO YOU THINK IT WAS.
01:12:59.641 --> 01:13:00.776
YOU KNOW YOU YOU MENTIONED THE
01:13:00.843 --> 01:13:02.211
ISSUE CERTAINLY OF EMPLOYMENT
01:13:02.277 --> 01:13:04.279
LAW AND I AND OR BEAN THE INDIAN
01:13:04.346 --> 01:13:08.417
THAT'S SUBJECT TO THE EIGHT OH
01:13:08.484 --> 01:13:10.786
FIVE OR ANY REPORTING --
01:13:10.853 --> 01:13:13.822
HE IS IS THAT WHERE THAT IS I
01:13:13.889 --> 01:13:14.890
MEAN AND HERE I DON'T WORDS IN
01:13:14.957 --> 01:13:15.891
YOUR MOUTH THAT NOBODY SEE IT
01:13:15.958 --> 01:13:17.993
BUT I THINK OBVIOUSLY BROKE DOWN
01:13:18.060 --> 01:13:18.861
SOMEWHERE I THINK IN IN ITS.
01:13:18.927 --> 01:13:20.262
WHERE THAT THAT HAPPENED BUT I
01:13:20.329 --> 01:13:21.597
THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK
01:13:21.663 --> 01:13:22.564
AND THAT'S WHERE THERE'S THIS
01:13:22.631 --> 01:13:24.299
UNUSUAL SITUATION AND IT IN AN
01:13:24.366 --> 01:13:25.367
ACADEMIC?
01:13:25.434 --> 01:13:26.635
MEDICAL ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU DO
01:13:26.702 --> 01:13:28.403
HAVE DIRECT --
01:13:28.470 --> 01:13:30.405
EMPLOYMENT OF PHYSICIANS SO YOU
01:13:30.472 --> 01:13:32.241
DO HAVE AN HR ROUTE WILL HR
01:13:32.307 --> 01:13:33.542
PROFESSIONALS ARE NOT PEERS
01:13:33.609 --> 01:13:34.977
THEY'RE NOT CONDUCTING A PEER
01:13:35.043 --> 01:13:35.711
REVIEW THAT WOULDN'T BE.
01:13:35.778 --> 01:13:38.347
SO WHEN YOU LISTEN TO MR BROWN'S
01:13:38.413 --> 01:13:39.648
TESTIMONY BEFORE YOU'RE YOU'RE
01:13:39.715 --> 01:13:40.749
THINKING IN THE CHST TRADITIONAL
01:13:40.816 --> 01:13:41.950
SETTING OF A HOSPITAL WITH A
01:13:42.017 --> 01:13:44.219
PEER REVIEW BODY BUT EMPLOYERS
01:13:44.286 --> 01:13:45.087
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WHO
01:13:45.154 --> 01:13:46.555
MAY BECAUSE OF AN EXCEPTION IN
01:13:46.622 --> 01:13:48.056
THE CORPORATE PRACTICE BAND.
01:13:48.123 --> 01:13:50.659
HAVE DOCTORS AS EMPLOYEES.
01:13:50.726 --> 01:13:52.995
CAN TERMINATE SOMEONE FOR OUR
01:13:53.061 --> 01:13:54.630
OVER IDEA OF ISSUES NOT
01:13:54.696 --> 01:13:56.131
NECESSARILY THAT HEALTH
01:13:56.198 --> 01:13:56.431
[inaudible]
01:13:56.498 --> 01:13:58.667
A CONDUCT OF THAT THE
01:13:58.734 --> 01:14:00.235
PRACTITIONERS CONDUCT WITH
01:14:00.302 --> 01:14:00.803
RESPECT TO PROVIDING HEALTH
01:14:00.869 --> 01:14:02.070
SERVICES.
01:14:02.137 --> 01:14:04.506
SO IF THE HR PROFESSIONAL.
01:14:04.573 --> 01:14:06.074
IT COMES TO THE CONCLUSION OF
01:14:06.141 --> 01:14:07.543
TERMINATION THERE NEVER EVEN IN
01:14:07.609 --> 01:14:09.678
THE EIGHT OH FIVE CATEGORIES SO
01:14:09.745 --> 01:14:11.280
WE ASK WHERE BREAKS DOWN IS IN
01:14:11.346 --> 01:14:12.381
THESE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE
01:14:12.447 --> 01:14:14.283
DUAL TRACK YOU HAVE EMPLOYMENT
01:14:14.349 --> 01:14:16.385
AND YOU HAVE PEER REVIEW.
01:14:16.451 --> 01:14:17.553
IF ACTION IS TAKEN UNDER
01:14:17.619 --> 01:14:20.389
EMPLOYMENT CONTEXT --
01:14:20.455 --> 01:14:22.291
IT WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE TO THE
01:14:22.357 --> 01:14:24.526
STATUTE BUT THAT MAYBE YOU COULD
01:14:24.593 --> 01:14:26.528
HAVE A SITUATION WHERE.
01:14:26.595 --> 01:14:28.530
ANY EMPLOYER IN CALIFORNIA WHO
01:14:28.597 --> 01:14:29.765
EMPLOYEES A PHYSICIAN AND
01:14:29.832 --> 01:14:31.366
TERMINATES THE POSITION FOR ANY
01:14:31.433 --> 01:14:33.936
REASON WITHIN FILE A REPORT NOW
01:14:34.002 --> 01:14:35.070
THAT WOULDN'T BE IN EIGHT OH
01:14:35.137 --> 01:14:35.904
FIVE REPORT.
01:14:35.971 --> 01:14:37.306
BUT BUT YOU COULD DO THAT
01:14:37.372 --> 01:14:38.040
HEADING.
01:14:38.106 --> 01:14:39.441
IN THAT COULD RESULT IN A IN A
01:14:39.508 --> 01:14:41.677
LOT OF REPORTS --
01:14:41.743 --> 01:14:43.278
GOING TO THE MEDICAL BOARD KNOWS
01:14:43.345 --> 01:14:44.213
WHO THE ISSUE THIS IS YOU
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:46.081
INDICATED THE STUDENT HEALTH
01:14:46.148 --> 01:14:47.649
CENTERS THAT ARE NOT.
01:14:47.716 --> 01:14:49.618
OVER TODAY YOU MAY NOT BE YEAH I
01:14:49.685 --> 01:14:50.719
AND I DON'T HAVE STATISTICS ON
01:14:50.786 --> 01:14:52.254
IT BUT JUST KNOWING THE SIZE OF
01:14:52.321 --> 01:14:54.056
MOST COLLEGES KIT YOU KNOW AT
01:14:54.122 --> 01:14:55.524
AND EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES WHERE
01:14:55.591 --> 01:14:56.892
YOU CAN HAVE A VERY SMALL
01:14:56.959 --> 01:14:57.926
STUDENT HEALTH --
01:14:57.993 --> 01:14:59.494
CLINIC WITH A NURSE OR SOMETHING
01:14:59.561 --> 01:15:01.263
QUITE SMALL THOSE AREN'T GONNA
01:15:01.330 --> 01:15:03.465
BE UNDER ANY DEFINITION OF THE
01:15:03.532 --> 01:15:04.766
PAIR OF YOU BODY THAT THAT
01:15:04.833 --> 01:15:06.268
MISTER HILL WAS EXPLAINING
01:15:06.335 --> 01:15:08.070
EARLIER IS NOT CAN BE TWENTY
01:15:08.136 --> 01:15:08.704
FIVE IT'S NOT THREE PART OF A
01:15:08.770 --> 01:15:09.438
HOSPITAL.
01:15:09.504 --> 01:15:12.040
SO BUT YOU DO HAVE A VULNERABLE
01:15:12.107 --> 01:15:13.609
PATIENT POPULATION.
01:15:13.675 --> 01:15:16.211
AND SO IF YOU HAD IT BEEN X.
01:15:16.278 --> 01:15:17.613
SPECIAL COMPLAINT FORM FOR
01:15:17.679 --> 01:15:19.815
STUDENTS OR MORE INFORMATION.
01:15:19.882 --> 01:15:21.283
GIVEN TO THE STUDENTS ABOUT WHAT
01:15:21.350 --> 01:15:22.851
THEIR RIGHTS WERE OR WHERE THEY
01:15:22.918 --> 01:15:24.586
SHOULD GO IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM
01:15:24.653 --> 01:15:25.621
THAT COULD BE OF ASSISTANCE TO
01:15:25.687 --> 01:15:28.523
PROTECTING STUDENTS.
01:15:28.590 --> 01:15:29.925
AND I COULD SEE THAT WOULD COULD
01:15:29.992 --> 01:15:31.526
BE VERY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF
01:15:31.593 --> 01:15:32.394
TRYING TO IDENTIFY THOSE.
01:15:32.461 --> 01:15:34.663
PROBLEMS --
01:15:34.730 --> 01:15:38.233
THE FIVE I I DID GET A COPY OF
01:15:38.300 --> 01:15:40.636
LOS [inaudible]
01:15:40.702 --> 01:15:42.070
THERE WERE.
01:15:42.137 --> 01:15:44.606
CORD THAT WISH.
01:15:44.673 --> 01:15:46.208
IF IT WAS A REPORT THAT WAS
01:15:46.275 --> 01:15:50.345
CONDUCTED BY --
01:15:50.412 --> 01:15:54.116
THE METRIC.
01:15:54.182 --> 01:15:54.883
YEAH --
01:15:54.950 --> 01:15:58.553
FLIGHT SIM IN V. REVIEW LOW
01:15:58.620 --> 01:15:59.421
RIGHT THE AD THAT THAT SO.
01:15:59.488 --> 01:16:00.923
IN THAT WAS DONE IN CONJUNCTION
01:16:00.989 --> 01:16:02.391
WITH THAT AND FOR THE EMPLOYMENT
01:16:02.457 --> 01:16:04.526
ASPECT RIGHT SO WHAT HAPPENS
01:16:04.593 --> 01:16:06.595
THERE IS THAT IN WHEN YOU'RE
01:16:06.662 --> 01:16:08.497
DEALING AS AN HR PERSON IS NOT A
01:16:08.563 --> 01:16:10.365
DOCTOR AND THERE ARE.
01:16:10.432 --> 01:16:12.234
BRINGING INVESTIGATING A
01:16:12.301 --> 01:16:13.201
DOCTOR'S BEHAVIOR.
01:16:13.268 --> 01:16:14.469
THE DOCTOR COULD THEN SAY WELL
01:16:14.536 --> 01:16:17.039
EVERYTHING I DID WAS.
01:16:17.105 --> 01:16:18.206
WRONG WITHIN MY PERSONAL
01:16:18.273 --> 01:16:20.542
PROFESSIONAL SCOPING.
01:16:20.609 --> 01:16:22.044
WELL THESE ARE NOT DOCTORS THERE
01:16:22.110 --> 01:16:23.412
INVESTIGATING IT SO WHAT YOU DO
01:16:23.478 --> 01:16:26.348
THEN IS YOU REFER IT OUT TO AN
01:16:26.415 --> 01:16:27.783
INDEPENDENT UP POSITION.
01:16:27.849 --> 01:16:29.484
A GROUP THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING
01:16:29.551 --> 01:16:30.886
TO TO SAY GIVE US YOUR OPINION
01:16:30.953 --> 01:16:33.322
ON THE PROFESSIONAL ISSUES THAT
01:16:33.388 --> 01:16:34.489
HE'S RAISING.
01:16:34.556 --> 01:16:38.060
BECAUSE WHAT IT COME TO HR WAS A
01:16:38.126 --> 01:16:39.494
MORE IN THE NATURE OF A SEXUAL
01:16:39.561 --> 01:16:40.896
HARASSMENT CLAIM AND THAT'S
01:16:40.963 --> 01:16:42.397
WHERE THE INVESTIGATION WENT BUT
01:16:42.464 --> 01:16:45.033
THEN WHEN HE COUNTERS THAT WITH --
01:16:45.100 --> 01:16:45.734
I WAS DOING THINGS ARE
01:16:45.801 --> 01:16:47.002
PROFESSIONALLY REQUIRED AND
01:16:47.069 --> 01:16:48.570
NECESSARY THEY'RE NOT IN A
01:16:48.637 --> 01:16:50.305
POSITION TO NO SO THEY HAVE TO
01:16:50.372 --> 01:16:51.740
ASK POSITION SO THEY ASKED
01:16:51.807 --> 01:16:53.041
INDEPENDENT PHYSICIANS THAT'S
01:16:53.108 --> 01:16:53.642
THAT'S WHERE THAT REPORT MAKES
01:16:53.709 --> 01:16:54.977
FROM.
01:16:55.043 --> 01:16:57.846
WHICH IS THIS REPORT ADAM IN THE
01:16:57.913 --> 01:16:59.014
CONCLUSION OF IT I GUESS.
01:16:59.081 --> 01:17:06.488
WILK OF THE LANGUAGE I OR THE
01:17:06.555 --> 01:17:07.456
THE RACIALLY INAPPROPRIATE
01:17:07.522 --> 01:17:11.259
COMMENTS --
01:17:11.326 --> 01:17:15.230
AND THE PAIN WAS THERE ANYTHING
01:17:15.297 --> 01:17:18.033
IN THIS REPORT THAT YOU FELT OR
01:17:18.100 --> 01:17:18.633
THAT THE UNIVERSITY FELT WOULD
01:17:18.700 --> 01:17:19.868
BE.
01:17:19.935 --> 01:17:20.802
APPROPRIATE TO SEND TO THE
01:17:20.869 --> 01:17:23.038
MEDICAL BOARD.
01:17:23.105 --> 01:17:24.006
HAVE FAITH WITH THIS AT UNION
01:17:24.072 --> 01:17:26.308
FIRMS OF THEM EMPLOYMENT OR
01:17:26.375 --> 01:17:26.675
LOOKING AT IT.
01:17:26.742 --> 01:17:27.976
MAYBE.
01:17:28.043 --> 01:17:30.145
I THINK I THINK IN THE REPORT IS
01:17:30.212 --> 01:17:32.581
INSTRUCTIVE IN A COUPLE OF WAYS
01:17:32.647 --> 01:17:33.248
ONE IS WHICH IT DOESN'T
01:17:33.315 --> 01:17:33.548
[inaudible]
01:17:33.615 --> 01:17:35.517
SAY.
01:17:35.584 --> 01:17:37.319
THAT THE UNIVERSITY MUST FIRE
01:17:37.386 --> 01:17:39.554
THIS EMPLOYEE HEY IT LOOKS AT
01:17:39.621 --> 01:17:40.922
THE ISSUES AND COME TO THE
01:17:40.989 --> 01:17:42.557
CONCLUSION --
01:17:42.624 --> 01:17:44.393
THAT YOU KNOW AGAIN LIKE EIGHT
01:17:44.459 --> 01:17:45.494
OR NINE PRESCRIBED.
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:47.129
EDUCATION COULD BE AN ISSUE OR
01:17:47.195 --> 01:17:48.663
CAN BE TERMINATION BUT
01:17:48.730 --> 01:17:50.699
DETERMINATION IN THAT SETTING
01:17:50.766 --> 01:17:52.467
WOULD NOT BE TERMINATION AS A
01:17:52.534 --> 01:17:53.935
RESULT OF THE ACTION OF A PEER
01:17:54.002 --> 01:17:55.670
REVIEW BODY.
01:17:55.737 --> 01:17:57.539
WHERE THE DOCTOR HAD NOTICE AND
01:17:57.606 --> 01:17:59.708
SO FORTH IT WOULD BE?
01:17:59.775 --> 01:18:02.544
THE H. R. SIDE OF THINGS SAYING
01:18:02.611 --> 01:18:04.279
WE BELIEVE AS YOU POINTED OUT
01:18:04.346 --> 01:18:05.547
THERE IS A A RACIALLY
01:18:05.614 --> 01:18:07.349
INSENSITIVE REMARK GIVEN --
01:18:07.416 --> 01:18:08.283
WHICH WOULD VIOLATE THE
01:18:08.350 --> 01:18:09.918
UNIVERSITY'S POLICIES THAT
01:18:09.985 --> 01:18:11.153
DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO
01:18:11.219 --> 01:18:12.654
NECESSARILY WITH THE PROTECTION
01:18:12.721 --> 01:18:14.456
OF PATIENTS VIA THE PHYSICIAN'S
01:18:14.523 --> 01:18:16.625
CARE IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH OUR
01:18:16.691 --> 01:18:17.092
ANTI.
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:18.393
HARASSMENT AND DISCRIMINATION
01:18:18.460 --> 01:18:20.662
POLICIES AND THAT ISN'T THE SORT
01:18:20.729 --> 01:18:21.997
OF POLICY VIOLATION THAT THE
01:18:22.064 --> 01:18:23.932
MEDICAL BOARD REQUIRES REPORT
01:18:23.999 --> 01:18:24.866
FOR SO THEN.
01:18:24.933 --> 01:18:27.702
IN WHAT VENUE WOULD THE EMPLOYER
01:18:27.769 --> 01:18:29.104
PROVIDE THE MEDICAL BOARD WITH
01:18:29.171 --> 01:18:32.707
THAT REPORT IT DOESN'T FIT UNDER --
01:18:32.774 --> 01:18:34.209
EIGHT OH FIVE SO THEORETICALLY
01:18:34.276 --> 01:18:35.177
YOU COULD EITHER JUST SEND THEM
01:18:35.243 --> 01:18:37.112
A LETTER --
01:18:37.179 --> 01:18:38.980
UNDER KNOW STATUTE OR YOU COULD
01:18:39.047 --> 01:18:40.348
UTILIZE THE CONSUMER COMPLAINT
01:18:40.415 --> 01:18:42.050
FORM.
01:18:42.117 --> 01:18:43.251
EVEN THOUGH THE EMPLOYER NOT
01:18:43.318 --> 01:18:45.253
REALLY THE CONSUMER.
01:18:45.320 --> 01:18:48.824
DO YOU FELT IT THERE WAS NO.
01:18:48.890 --> 01:18:50.392
AFTER LOOKING AT THE REPORT
01:18:50.459 --> 01:18:51.827
THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING THERE
01:18:51.893 --> 01:18:53.395
THAT REQUIRED REPORTING CORRECT
01:18:53.462 --> 01:18:54.763
BECAUSE YOU NOT A REPORT
01:18:54.830 --> 01:18:56.064
REQUIRED REPORTER.
01:18:56.131 --> 01:18:57.499
THAT'S ORDER IN THAT THAT'S
01:18:57.566 --> 01:19:00.235
RIGHT BM IN I THINK THE YOU
01:19:00.302 --> 01:19:01.803
MENTIONED THAT YOU LOOKED AT
01:19:01.870 --> 01:19:03.305
THIS REPORT AND THEN SOMEONE
01:19:03.371 --> 01:19:04.806
MADE THAT DETERMINATION NOT TO
01:19:04.873 --> 01:19:07.676
RIP IT THAT THERE WAS NO --
01:19:07.742 --> 01:19:09.411
OBLIGATION RESPONSIBILITIES
01:19:09.478 --> 01:19:11.713
RIGHT RESPONSIBILITY TO REPORT
01:19:11.780 --> 01:19:14.716
WELL ULTIMATELY IT IT NEEDS.
01:19:14.783 --> 01:19:17.152
IT'S THAT THE WHOLE PROCESS
01:19:17.219 --> 01:19:19.121
START TO FINISH WAS RUN.
01:19:19.187 --> 01:19:21.590
THROUGH HUMAN RESOURCES AND SO
01:19:21.656 --> 01:19:23.792
THAT ISSUE OF REPORTING ISN'T.
01:19:23.859 --> 01:19:25.560
SOMETHING HUMAN RESOURCES DOES
01:19:25.627 --> 01:19:27.129
IT SOMETHING MEDICAL STAFF DOES
01:19:27.195 --> 01:19:27.729
AS YOU HEARD FROM THE EARLIER
01:19:27.796 --> 01:19:29.030
WITNESSES.
01:19:29.097 --> 01:19:30.732
SO IT NEVER WAS IN THE MEDICAL
01:19:30.799 --> 01:19:32.801
STAFF TRACKED WITH RESPECT TO
01:19:32.868 --> 01:19:34.002
THIS TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN
01:19:34.069 --> 01:19:35.370
INVESTIGATION AND THE REPORT
01:19:35.437 --> 01:19:36.805
THAT YOU REFERENCED SO.
01:19:36.872 --> 01:19:38.273
THERE WOULDN'T BE A PROCESS
01:19:38.340 --> 01:19:40.809
WHERE AN HR INDIVIDUAL WOULD SAY.
01:19:40.876 --> 01:19:42.777
WELL NOW SHOULD WE REPORT OR NOT
01:19:42.844 --> 01:19:44.446
REPORT ITS.
01:19:44.513 --> 01:19:46.148
HR HAS TO MAKE THE DECISION
01:19:46.214 --> 01:19:48.383
SHOULD WE EMPLOYEE OR NOT EMPLOY
01:19:48.450 --> 01:19:50.118
OR SHOULD WE YOU KNOW GIVE SOME
01:19:50.185 --> 01:19:51.653
SORT OF OTHER EMPLOYMENT BASED
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:52.988
REPRIMAND BUT IT WOULDN'T BE A
01:19:53.054 --> 01:19:54.723
PEER REVIEW BODY --
01:19:54.789 --> 01:19:56.558
SORT OF DISCIPLINE IT WOULD BE
01:19:56.625 --> 01:19:57.926
AN EMPLOYMENT DIMINISH PERSONAGE
01:19:57.993 --> 01:19:59.060
ACTUALLY IN THERE WAS NOTHING IN
01:19:59.127 --> 01:20:01.363
THAT REPORT THAT WOULD REQUIRE
01:20:01.429 --> 01:20:02.531
ANYTHING CRIMINALLY.
01:20:02.597 --> 01:20:04.032
THAT WOULD ANY REPORTING.
01:20:04.099 --> 01:20:08.170
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR BOB NO IT
01:20:08.236 --> 01:20:09.437
IT USED THEIR LOOKING AT
01:20:09.504 --> 01:20:11.273
STANDARDS OF CARE --
01:20:11.339 --> 01:20:13.842
AT AND ISSUES OF HYGIENE AND THE
01:20:13.909 --> 01:20:15.677
SORT OF POSITION BEHAVIOR ISSUES.
01:20:15.744 --> 01:20:16.711
AND WHETHER OR NOT HIS
01:20:16.778 --> 01:20:19.281
EXPLANATIONS GIVEN TO HR WERE
01:20:19.347 --> 01:20:20.515
SOMETHING THAT.
01:20:20.582 --> 01:20:22.450
THE HR COULD [inaudible]
01:20:22.517 --> 01:20:25.320
USES EXPLANATION OR OR NOT FOR
01:20:25.387 --> 01:20:27.122
HIS BEHAVIOR.
01:20:27.189 --> 01:20:27.756
IN THROUGH THERE WAS NOTHING IN
01:20:27.822 --> 01:20:28.890
THAT.
01:20:28.957 --> 01:20:30.926
CONCLUSIONS OF THAT REPORT THAT
01:20:30.992 --> 01:20:33.094
SOMEONE AT A RED FLAG GETTING OF
01:20:33.161 --> 01:20:34.095
THIS MAY BE CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR
01:20:34.162 --> 01:20:36.331
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE I BIG
01:20:36.398 --> 01:20:36.965
BASED ON THAT INCLUSIONS OR
01:20:37.032 --> 01:20:37.999
TRUCK NO I I DON'T I DON'T
01:20:38.066 --> 01:20:39.634
BELIEVE SO I THINK THIS IS AN
01:20:39.701 --> 01:20:40.468
AREA WHERE.
01:20:40.535 --> 01:20:42.137
IT WAS REPORTED AS A HARASSMENT
01:20:42.204 --> 01:20:43.605
ISSUE.
01:20:43.672 --> 01:20:45.140
AND IT'S IT INVESTIGATED IN THE
01:20:45.207 --> 01:20:46.875
NOTION OF HARASSMENT WHICH AGAIN
01:20:46.942 --> 01:20:48.977
BACK TO MY QUESTION ON OR MY MY
01:20:49.044 --> 01:20:50.979
COMMENT ON THE MISCONDUCT YOU
01:20:51.046 --> 01:20:52.047
KNOW IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH A OF
01:20:52.113 --> 01:20:53.582
PHYSICAL.
01:20:53.648 --> 01:20:54.950
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT THEN YOU'RE IN
01:20:55.016 --> 01:20:56.384
THE REALM OF ASSAULT WHICH DOES
01:20:56.451 --> 01:20:57.786
REQUIRE REPORT OF COURSE THE
01:20:57.852 --> 01:20:58.587
HOSPITAL HAS POLICIES OF
01:20:58.653 --> 01:20:59.454
REPORTING.
01:20:59.521 --> 01:21:02.123
ANY CLAIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT --
01:21:02.190 --> 01:21:03.325
BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH
01:21:03.391 --> 01:21:04.726
HARASSMENT THAT'S TYPICALLY A
01:21:04.793 --> 01:21:07.395
CIVIL LITIGATION ACTION --
01:21:07.462 --> 01:21:08.797
AND IN FACT AT ONE POINT I THINK
01:21:08.863 --> 01:21:09.965
YOU MIGHT STILL BE THERE THE
01:21:10.031 --> 01:21:12.367
MEDICAL BOARD HAS ON ITS WEBSITE.
01:21:12.434 --> 01:21:14.169
THIS EXPLANATION A ARTICLE
01:21:14.236 --> 01:21:15.470
TALKING ABOUT THE DISTINCTION
01:21:15.537 --> 01:21:17.806
BETWEEN SEXUAL MISCONDUCT ON THE
01:21:17.872 --> 01:21:19.241
ONE HAND WHICH THEY DO WANT TO
01:21:19.307 --> 01:21:20.775
KNOW ABOUT AND SEXUAL HARASSMENT
01:21:20.842 --> 01:21:21.710
WHICH IS AN ISSUE.
01:21:21.776 --> 01:21:24.346
AS THEIR ARTICLE SAYS FOR CIVIL
01:21:24.412 --> 01:21:25.680
LITIGATION SO THIS IS IN THIS
01:21:25.747 --> 01:21:27.816
CIVIL LITIGATION SIDE YOU MIGHT
01:21:27.882 --> 01:21:29.117
SAY IT'S PRE LITIGATIONOF
01:21:29.184 --> 01:21:30.852
COURSE BUT IN THE SEXUAL
01:21:30.919 --> 01:21:33.788
HARASSMENT CONDUCT NOT.
01:21:33.855 --> 01:21:35.790
OKAY AND THEN YOU YOU HEARD MY
01:21:35.857 --> 01:21:36.791
QUESTION --
01:21:36.858 --> 01:21:39.928
TO MISS KIRK MAIER RELATED --
01:21:39.995 --> 01:21:41.730
TO NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS IN
01:21:41.796 --> 01:21:45.900
AND THE ISSUE OF HOW AND I SEE
01:21:45.967 --> 01:21:47.736
HOW IT APPLIES NOW BASED ON THE
01:21:47.802 --> 01:21:48.737
LAWN EVER REMEMBER PASSIONATELY
01:21:48.803 --> 01:21:50.071
COUPLE YEARS AGO.
01:21:50.138 --> 01:21:52.407
WHEN WE DID THAT --
01:21:52.474 --> 01:21:54.109
IT EMPLOYMENT LAW THAN THAT
01:21:54.175 --> 01:21:56.645
WOULD NOT APPLY [inaudible]
01:21:56.711 --> 01:22:00.148
THE NONDISCLOSURE.
01:22:00.215 --> 01:22:01.883
PART OF A SETTLEMENT RIGHT IT IS
01:22:01.950 --> 01:22:04.085
DID DID THIS PARTICULAR CASE
01:22:04.152 --> 01:22:05.320
HAVING ON DISCLOSURE.
01:22:05.387 --> 01:22:06.788
SETTLEMENT ARE PART OF IT TOO IT
01:22:06.855 --> 01:22:10.025
INTO AND I GUESS THERE'S A
01:22:10.091 --> 01:22:11.626
TYPICALLY SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS
01:22:11.693 --> 01:22:13.561
WITH EMPLOYEES DO --
01:22:13.628 --> 01:22:15.497
AS TO THE SPECIFICS ON THIS ONE
01:22:15.563 --> 01:22:16.865
I I COULDN'T I COULDN'T TESTIFY
01:22:16.931 --> 01:22:18.366
WITH PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE THERE
01:22:18.433 --> 01:22:20.502
BUT THE BUT GOING BACK TO THE
01:22:20.568 --> 01:22:22.237
EARLIER KIND OF CONUNDRUM THAT
01:22:22.304 --> 01:22:23.772
YOU'VE IDENTIFIED IS.
01:22:23.838 --> 01:22:26.508
IF IT IS NOT DONE AS THE RESULT
01:22:26.574 --> 01:22:30.078
OF A MEDICAL BOARD PROCESS.
01:22:30.145 --> 01:22:34.182
IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE NATO FIVE
01:22:34.249 --> 01:22:37.085
OR THE ANTI GAG RULE AMERICA
01:22:37.152 --> 01:22:38.186
WERE REGULATION BECAUSE THIS
01:22:38.253 --> 01:22:41.790
ISN'T BEING DONE.
01:22:41.856 --> 01:22:44.259
IN THAT IN THAT CONTINENTAL I
01:22:44.326 --> 01:22:45.560
WOULD AGREE CERTAINLY WITH A
01:22:45.627 --> 01:22:46.961
MISCARRIAGE MY ON THE POINT OF
01:22:47.028 --> 01:22:47.562
WE HAVE.
01:22:47.629 --> 01:22:50.865
A RULE WHERE YOU CAN ME FOR A
01:22:50.932 --> 01:22:53.234
VIOLATION THAT THAT WOULD BE AT
01:22:53.301 --> 01:22:55.503
A NOT APPROPRIATE BUT IN TERMS
01:22:55.570 --> 01:22:57.639
OF THE A STATEMENT TO THE EFFECT
01:22:57.706 --> 01:23:01.376
OF WHAT OTHERWISE SHOULD BE
01:23:01.443 --> 01:23:02.844
REPORTABLE TO THE MEDICAL BOARD
01:23:02.911 --> 01:23:04.512
UNDER EIGHT OH FIVE YOU WON'T
01:23:04.579 --> 01:23:05.246
REPORT.
01:23:05.313 --> 01:23:07.048
THAT WOULDN'T EXIST BECAUSE THAT
01:23:07.115 --> 01:23:08.083
THAT WOULD COME UP IN THE
01:23:08.149 --> 01:23:09.317
EMPLOYMENT CONTEXT THEY WOULDN'T
01:23:09.384 --> 01:23:10.218
KNOW WHAT.
01:23:10.285 --> 01:23:12.053
THE EIGHT OH FIVE REPORT WOULD
01:23:12.120 --> 01:23:12.654
BE THAT WE COME UP IN THE PEER
01:23:12.721 --> 01:23:13.488
REVIEW CUT [inaudible]
01:23:13.555 --> 01:23:16.324
THIS WEEK IN A DISTRICT FOR AND
01:23:16.391 --> 01:23:18.426
OF SEAFOOD TRANSPARENCY WITHIN
01:23:18.493 --> 01:23:19.627
THE SYSTEM IN YOU.
01:23:19.694 --> 01:23:20.995
WHEN YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF THAT
01:23:21.062 --> 01:23:22.864
NONDISCLOSURE PART BUT I GUESS?
01:23:22.931 --> 01:23:23.365
IT I'D READ THAT THERE'S
01:23:23.431 --> 01:23:24.265
SOMETHING.
01:23:24.332 --> 01:23:26.167
THAT WE SEEM A NON DISPARAGEMENT
01:23:26.234 --> 01:23:27.402
AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING THEY
01:23:27.469 --> 01:23:30.305
COULD BE IN A CONTRACT SOMEWHERE
01:23:30.372 --> 01:23:31.373
AS WELL AND I'M NOT.
01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:32.440
SINCE YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF
01:23:32.507 --> 01:23:33.441
THE OTHER YOU WOULD HAVE NO
01:23:33.508 --> 01:23:34.743
KNOWLEDGE OF THIS BUT AYE I
01:23:34.809 --> 01:23:36.344
GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING TO OF TO
01:23:36.411 --> 01:23:37.278
TRY TO FIND SO WE CAN GET AS
01:23:37.345 --> 01:23:40.014
MUCH INFORMATION VITAL FORWARD.
01:23:40.081 --> 01:23:42.417
THAT IN PERHAPS.
01:23:42.484 --> 01:23:43.818
IF WE LOOK AT THOSE WHO THE
01:23:43.885 --> 01:23:45.720
LABOR LAW AND SEE ABOUT.
01:23:45.787 --> 01:23:47.789
MAKING SOME CHANGES FOR POSITION
01:23:47.856 --> 01:23:50.291
INCLUSION THERE FOR NON --
01:23:50.358 --> 01:23:53.128
DISCLOSURE OF A OF OF AGREEMENTS
01:23:53.194 --> 01:23:55.897
AND CONFIDENTIALLY
01:23:55.964 --> 01:23:57.499
CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENTS OR
01:23:57.565 --> 01:23:59.434
OTHER THINGS THAT MAY IMPEDE
01:23:59.501 --> 01:24:00.068
THAT.
01:24:00.135 --> 01:24:02.570
THIS THE HONESTY IN THERE THE
01:24:02.637 --> 01:24:04.105
THE TRANSPARENCY OF OF SOME OF
01:24:04.172 --> 01:24:05.774
THESE AGREEMENTS RIGHT AND SO
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:06.674
THIS IS --
01:24:06.741 --> 01:24:07.308
IN THIS GETS TO BE.
01:24:07.375 --> 01:24:09.744
BOTH COMP.
01:24:09.811 --> 01:24:11.212
ON THIS FRONT WHERE THE
01:24:11.279 --> 01:24:13.348
EMPLOYMENT LAW IS INTERSECTING
01:24:13.415 --> 01:24:14.949
WITH THE MEDICAL STAFF LAW.
01:24:15.016 --> 01:24:18.019
BECAUSE IF THE PHYSICIAN WAS
01:24:18.086 --> 01:24:19.821
TERMINATED FOR REASONS THAT HAD
01:24:19.888 --> 01:24:21.589
NOTHING TO DO WITH PATIENT CARE
01:24:21.656 --> 01:24:22.457
YOU GO BACK TO THE FUNDAMENTAL
01:24:22.524 --> 01:24:24.325
PURPOSE OF THE MEDICAL BOARD IS
01:24:24.392 --> 01:24:25.627
PROTECTING THE PUBLIC VIEW AND
01:24:25.693 --> 01:24:27.829
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PATIENT CARE.
01:24:27.896 --> 01:24:29.364
BUT IF IT WAS FOR SOMETHING SAY.
01:24:29.431 --> 01:24:31.065
WASN'T TURNING THE STUDENTS EXAM
01:24:31.132 --> 01:24:32.500
GRADES IN ON TIME BECAUSE MUCH
01:24:32.567 --> 01:24:34.135
THE FACULTY A PROFESSOR.
01:24:34.202 --> 01:24:36.938
AND HE WAS TERMINATED FOR THAT --
01:24:37.005 --> 01:24:38.506
IF THERE WAS A LAW SAYING YOU
01:24:38.573 --> 01:24:41.342
CAN'T HAVE A NON DISK CLOSURE OR
01:24:41.409 --> 01:24:43.311
NON DISPARAGEMENT IN THERE AND
01:24:43.378 --> 01:24:44.345
ANY TIME ANYBODY SAY OPPOSITE
01:24:44.412 --> 01:24:46.047
WHAT WE'D SAY DOCTOR PROFESSOR
01:24:46.114 --> 01:24:46.681
SOUND SO.
01:24:46.748 --> 01:24:48.516
IS A TERRIBLE TEACHER HAS
01:24:48.583 --> 01:24:50.185
NOTHING TO DO WITH PATIENT CARE
01:24:50.251 --> 01:24:51.753
RIGHT IS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT
01:24:51.820 --> 01:24:51.953
GOOD.
01:24:52.020 --> 01:24:53.521
THEN YOU GET INTO A SITUATION
01:24:53.588 --> 01:24:55.757
WHERE IT BECOMES EXCEEDINGLY
01:24:55.824 --> 01:24:57.792
DIFFICULT TO TERMINATE JUST A
01:24:57.859 --> 01:24:59.494
REGULAR EMPLOYEE BECAUSE IN PLAY
01:24:59.561 --> 01:25:00.995
DOESN'T WANT THEIR REPUTATION.
01:25:01.062 --> 01:25:02.464
TARNISHED AND AGAIN WE'RE IN THE
01:25:02.530 --> 01:25:04.232
CONTEXT OF THIS HAS NOTHING TO
01:25:04.299 --> 01:25:05.533
DO WITH HEALTH CARE EVEN.
01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:07.202
WHEN YOU HAVE THIS DUAL --
01:25:07.268 --> 01:25:10.538
SYSTEM AS ACADEMIC CENTERS DO SO
01:25:10.605 --> 01:25:12.173
THEN YOU WOULD LOOK AT IT AND
01:25:12.240 --> 01:25:13.475
HAVING TO DEFINE SPECIFICALLY
01:25:13.541 --> 01:25:16.444
WHAT YOU COULD OR COULD NOT.
01:25:16.511 --> 01:25:18.847
S. CLOTHES ARE NOT DISCLOSE AND
01:25:18.913 --> 01:25:20.648
BUT I WOULD SAY DOING A LOT OF
01:25:20.715 --> 01:25:22.417
EMPLOYMENT LAW --
01:25:22.484 --> 01:25:24.886
MOST PARTIES BOTH ON THE
01:25:24.953 --> 01:25:26.221
PLAINTIFF AND ON THE DEFENSE
01:25:26.287 --> 01:25:29.157
SIDE FEEL IT'S BEST --
01:25:29.224 --> 01:25:30.959
TO HAVE THOSE SORTS OF AGREEMENT
01:25:31.025 --> 01:25:32.660
SO THAT AFTER THE LITIGATION IS
01:25:32.727 --> 01:25:34.863
RESOLVED EACH SIDE ISN'T TRYING
01:25:34.929 --> 01:25:37.765
TO HARM THE OTHER.
01:25:37.832 --> 01:25:39.501
LET'S DESERVES THE QUESTIONS I
01:25:39.567 --> 01:25:40.835
HAVE FOR THEM THAT I REALLY
01:25:40.902 --> 01:25:42.136
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE MISTER
01:25:42.203 --> 01:25:43.371
CARLSON THINK INSTEAD I GIVE
01:25:43.438 --> 01:25:44.572
THANK YOU THANK YOU MUCH FOR MEN
01:25:44.639 --> 01:25:46.140
I THINK WE'VE LEARNED A LOT SO
01:25:46.207 --> 01:25:47.175
FAR TODAY AND THAT.
01:25:47.242 --> 01:25:48.543
THIS KIND OF CREATES I BELIEVE A
01:25:48.610 --> 01:25:52.013
PATH TO TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK
01:25:52.080 --> 01:25:53.348
TO PLUG SHOW THOSE HOLES OBESITY
01:25:53.414 --> 01:25:54.282
AGAIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
01:25:54.349 --> 01:25:56.050
YOUR SIDE.
01:25:56.117 --> 01:25:58.453
APPRECIATED VERY MUCH --
01:25:58.520 --> 01:26:00.622
NOW I'D LIKE TO GET OPEN.
01:26:00.688 --> 01:26:02.490
PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:26:02.557 --> 01:26:04.392
TO THOSE WHO'D LIKE.
01:26:04.459 --> 01:26:05.059
TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS OF WITH
01:26:05.126 --> 01:26:08.897
THE COMMITTEE AND THE ISSUE OF
01:26:08.963 --> 01:26:10.265
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT REPORTING IN
01:26:10.331 --> 01:26:11.633
THE MEDICAL PROFESSION MISSED
01:26:11.699 --> 01:26:12.834
OPPORTUNITIES TO PROTECT
01:26:12.901 --> 01:26:13.768
PATIENTS SO.
01:26:13.835 --> 01:26:14.802
ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME
01:26:14.869 --> 01:26:30.985
FORWARD
01:26:50.605 --> 01:26:50.672
.
01:26:50.672 --> 01:26:53.641
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THANK YOU.
01:26:53.708 --> 01:26:54.909
FOR FOR FOR CITY --
01:26:54.976 --> 01:26:56.477
I WAS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT --
01:26:56.544 --> 01:26:58.346
EVERYONE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
01:26:58.413 --> 01:26:59.147
TO TO SIT TODAY AND EVERY ANYONE
01:26:59.213 --> 01:27:00.248
WHO.
01:27:00.315 --> 01:27:02.350
HAS A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT AFTER
01:27:02.417 --> 01:27:03.985
A IT WOULD BE MORE THAN WELCOME
01:27:04.052 --> 01:27:04.452
TO DO THAT [inaudible]
01:27:04.519 --> 01:27:06.955
PLEASE.
01:27:07.021 --> 01:27:08.823
YEAH JOHN MANLEY --
01:27:08.890 --> 01:27:10.458
MISTER CHAIRMAN I REPRESENT THE
01:27:10.525 --> 01:27:12.226
OVER A HUNDRED WOMEN ABUSE BY
01:27:12.293 --> 01:27:14.162
GEORGE KENDALL AT USC.
01:27:14.228 --> 01:27:15.964
I ALSO WAS THE LEAD ATTORNEY.
01:27:16.030 --> 01:27:18.299
IN THE MICHIGAN STATE CASE
01:27:18.366 --> 01:27:19.667
AGAINST LARRY NASSER.
01:27:19.734 --> 01:27:21.903
Y. REPRESENTED A HUNDRED EIGHTY
01:27:21.970 --> 01:27:23.004
OF THE THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY
01:27:23.071 --> 01:27:24.706
THREE WOMEN.
01:27:24.772 --> 01:27:26.107
ON I ACTUALLY WASN'T GONNA SPEAK
01:27:26.174 --> 01:27:31.312
TODAY BUT ON THE STATEMENTS --
01:27:31.379 --> 01:27:32.614
UP PERSONALLY APPEARANCE OF MISS
01:27:32.680 --> 01:27:33.781
ESCUCHA.
01:27:33.848 --> 01:27:35.483
A I FIND.
01:27:35.550 --> 01:27:37.952
BUT REMARKABLY HYPOCRITICAL.
01:27:38.019 --> 01:27:41.856
I'M MARTHA ESCUCHA --
01:27:41.923 --> 01:27:44.258
WAS A AN ATTORNEY FOR THE
01:27:44.325 --> 01:27:44.859
VICTIMS OF THE MARIJUANA TAKE
01:27:44.926 --> 01:27:45.793
CASE [inaudible]
01:27:45.860 --> 01:27:50.098
AND CALLED ON YOU LA U. S. D. TO
01:27:50.164 --> 01:27:51.666
DO AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION
01:27:51.733 --> 01:27:53.768
A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS.
01:27:53.835 --> 01:27:55.536
THE FACT SHE WOULD APPEAR HERE.
01:27:55.603 --> 01:27:57.038
IN THIS CONTEXT THREE YEARS
01:27:57.105 --> 01:27:58.206
LATER I FIND REMARKABLY
01:27:58.272 --> 01:28:00.141
HYPOCRITICAL.
01:28:00.208 --> 01:28:01.209
BUT I GUESS THAT'S UP TO HER
01:28:01.275 --> 01:28:01.509
[inaudible]
01:28:01.576 --> 01:28:04.912
ON I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME
01:28:04.979 --> 01:28:06.714
OF THE STATEMENTS THAT.
01:28:06.781 --> 01:28:08.516
A MISTER CARLSON MADE HEAT HE
01:28:08.583 --> 01:28:10.885
REFERRED TO THE TWO THOUSAND
01:28:10.952 --> 01:28:11.519
SIXTEEN INVESTIGATION
01:28:11.586 --> 01:28:11.819
[inaudible]
01:28:11.886 --> 01:28:16.224
AS EFFICIENT.
01:28:16.290 --> 01:28:17.091
I WOULD.
01:28:17.158 --> 01:28:18.960
SUGGEST TO THIS COMMITTEE AND TO
01:28:19.027 --> 01:28:20.595
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN.
01:28:20.662 --> 01:28:22.430
THAT I IT WAS EFFICIENT IN
01:28:22.497 --> 01:28:24.565
HIDING.
01:28:24.632 --> 01:28:25.633
SYSTEMIC MOLESTATION ABUSE OF
01:28:25.700 --> 01:28:27.669
WOMEN.
01:28:27.735 --> 01:28:29.137
IT WAS NOT EFFICIENT AND HELPING
01:28:29.203 --> 01:28:30.505
MY CLIENTS.
01:28:30.571 --> 01:28:33.007
WERE THE VICTIMS.
01:28:33.074 --> 01:28:34.709
OUR I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST TO YOU
01:28:34.776 --> 01:28:36.778
THAT.
01:28:36.844 --> 01:28:38.012
THE JUSTIFICATION THAT JUST
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:40.782
OCCURRED DEBT --
01:28:40.848 --> 01:28:42.350
THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY OBLIGATION
01:28:42.417 --> 01:28:43.384
TO REPORT RACIST OR SEXUAL
01:28:43.451 --> 01:28:44.719
STATEMENTS [inaudible]
01:28:44.786 --> 01:28:50.692
ON I I JUST FIND STUNNING.
01:28:50.758 --> 01:28:51.693
THAT THAT THAT WOULD THAT WOULD
01:28:51.759 --> 01:28:53.327
THAT STATE WOULD BE MADE HEREBY
01:28:53.394 --> 01:28:55.229
UNIVERSITY REPRESENTATIVE MISTER
01:28:55.296 --> 01:28:57.098
MAN WHO WERE TRYING TO DO HERE
01:28:57.165 --> 01:28:59.000
IS TO TO LEARN WHAT WE CAN --
01:28:59.067 --> 01:29:01.102
WE'RE NOT HERE --
01:29:01.169 --> 01:29:03.805
TO THEY SHOULD NOT A TWO YARD HE
01:29:03.871 --> 01:29:05.073
SAID SHE SAID OR WHAT THE
01:29:05.139 --> 01:29:06.407
CIRCUMSTANCES ARE AND I
01:29:06.474 --> 01:29:08.042
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS BUT
01:29:08.109 --> 01:29:09.243
WITH ALL THE FAMILIES THE GOAL
01:29:09.310 --> 01:29:10.678
IS TO TO LEARN FROM SOME OF
01:29:10.745 --> 01:29:11.713
THOSE KEY.
01:29:11.779 --> 01:29:14.682
SO THRESHOLD POINT IN THE THE
01:29:14.749 --> 01:29:16.818
TESTIMONY WITHOUT GETTING YOU
01:29:16.884 --> 01:29:18.252
KNOW IT'S NOT FOR THIS HEARING
01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:19.620
OF THIS.
01:29:19.687 --> 01:29:21.122
BODY TO ALTERMAN WHETHER
01:29:21.189 --> 01:29:22.590
SOMETHING IS --
01:29:22.657 --> 01:29:23.991
FACTUAL IN THAT SENSE WE'RE
01:29:24.058 --> 01:29:25.760
LOOKING MORE AT THE THE BROADER
01:29:25.827 --> 01:29:27.829
PICTURE OF REPORTING AND IF THEY
01:29:27.895 --> 01:29:29.163
WERE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES HERE
01:29:29.230 --> 01:29:31.165
THAT SHOULD BE I UNDERSTAND BUT
01:29:31.232 --> 01:29:32.667
WHAT THE COMMITTEE DIDN'T HERE
01:29:32.734 --> 01:29:33.835
AND I'M NOT GONNA.
01:29:33.901 --> 01:29:35.503
SIT HERE IS A POTTED PLANT AND
01:29:35.570 --> 01:29:37.138
PRETEND LIKE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
01:29:37.205 --> 01:29:41.242
IS THE REPORTS DATING BACK.
01:29:41.309 --> 01:29:41.876
TO NINETEEN EIGHTY THERE WAS NOT
01:29:41.943 --> 01:29:44.545
THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST REPORT IN.
01:29:44.612 --> 01:29:45.179
TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN AND THERE'S
01:29:45.246 --> 01:29:46.581
HUNDREDS.
01:29:46.647 --> 01:29:48.516
OF WOMEN IF NOT THOUSANDS WHO
01:29:48.583 --> 01:29:50.685
WERE ABUSED AFTER THAT DATE.
01:29:50.752 --> 01:29:53.721
SO I'M I'M VERY DISTURBED THAT --
01:29:53.788 --> 01:29:55.757
THAT.
01:29:55.823 --> 01:29:57.558
THE COMMITTEE GOT WHAT I THINK
01:29:57.625 --> 01:29:59.093
IS A FALSE REPORT.
01:29:59.160 --> 01:30:01.295
FROM USC'S COUNCIL AND THE
01:30:01.362 --> 01:30:02.497
FORMER NUMBER THE STATE SENATE
01:30:02.563 --> 01:30:03.898
I'M GONNA LET MY CLIENTS.
01:30:03.965 --> 01:30:07.735
THEY GOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
01:30:07.802 --> 01:30:09.837
MY NAME IS LUCY SHE I WAS A
01:30:09.904 --> 01:30:11.305
STUDENT AT USC FROM TWO THOUSAND
01:30:11.372 --> 01:30:14.909
AND TWELVE TWO THOUSAND AND
01:30:14.976 --> 01:30:16.577
FOURTEEN WHERE I STUDIED A
01:30:16.644 --> 01:30:17.345
PUBLIC POLICY AND HEALTH
01:30:17.411 --> 01:30:20.148
ADMINISTRATION.
01:30:20.214 --> 01:30:21.916
AND I WAS.
01:30:21.983 --> 01:30:24.786
ABUSED BY GEORGE HANDLE
01:30:24.852 --> 01:30:25.086
[inaudible]
01:30:25.153 --> 01:30:30.124
HOW?
01:30:30.191 --> 01:30:31.259
SO IS BROUGHT TO THIS COUNTRY TO
01:30:31.325 --> 01:30:32.460
ESCAPE TREATMENT AS A SECOND
01:30:32.527 --> 01:30:34.729
CLASS CITIZEN.
01:30:34.796 --> 01:30:36.264
MY FATHER LEFT MY MOTHER AFTER
01:30:36.330 --> 01:30:38.232
SHE BECAME PREGNANT WITH ME.
01:30:38.299 --> 01:30:39.634
AND WHEN MY FATHER'S FAMILY
01:30:39.700 --> 01:30:41.636
FOUND OUT ABOUT ME.
01:30:41.702 --> 01:30:43.104
THEY REPEATEDLY THREATENED TO
01:30:43.171 --> 01:30:45.973
TAKE BACK THEIR PROPERTY ME.
01:30:46.040 --> 01:30:47.408
MY MOTHER BROUGHT ME TO
01:30:47.475 --> 01:30:48.042
COMMEMORATE AMERICA TO KEEP YOU
01:30:48.109 --> 01:30:50.978
SAFE.
01:30:51.045 --> 01:30:51.946
IN AMERICA I BECAME A TRANSLATOR
01:30:52.013 --> 01:30:53.915
FOR MY MOTHER.
01:30:53.981 --> 01:30:55.950
WHEN I TOLD HER THAT DR GEORGE
01:30:56.017 --> 01:30:59.353
TENET U. S. C. MOLESTED ME?
01:30:59.420 --> 01:31:02.223
HE LOCKED THE WORDS.
01:31:02.290 --> 01:31:04.392
TO SPEAK TO ME OR ANYONE.
01:31:04.458 --> 01:31:05.693
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED EVEN IN OUR
01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:08.162
OWN NATIVE LANGUAGE.
01:31:08.229 --> 01:31:09.430
MANY OF THE INTERNATIONAL
01:31:09.497 --> 01:31:13.201
STUDENTS AT USC.
01:31:13.267 --> 01:31:15.636
COME FROM SIMILAR BACKGROUNDS.
01:31:15.703 --> 01:31:18.206
GEORGE TYNDALL EXPLOITED THE
01:31:18.272 --> 01:31:20.208
CONSERVATIVE ASIAN CULTURE.
01:31:20.274 --> 01:31:21.042
KNOWING THAT MANY OF THE WOMEN
01:31:21.108 --> 01:31:23.211
HE ABUSED.
01:31:23.277 --> 01:31:24.879
OR UNABLE TO SPEAK OUT LOUD.
01:31:24.946 --> 01:31:28.416
WORDS DESCRIBE THEIR OWN BODIES.
01:31:28.482 --> 01:31:29.050
MUCH LESS WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT
01:31:29.116 --> 01:31:31.919
EXAM.
01:31:31.986 --> 01:31:33.221
I HOPE BY SPEAKING HERE TODAY I
01:31:33.287 --> 01:31:35.423
CAN BE A VOICE FOR ALL THOSE WHO
01:31:35.489 --> 01:31:36.657
WERE UNABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT THEIR
01:31:36.724 --> 01:31:40.828
EXPERIENCE AT USC.
01:31:40.895 --> 01:31:41.462
SO MY EXPERIENCE WITH DOCTOR
01:31:41.529 --> 01:31:45.333
KENDALL WAS IN THE FALL OF TWO
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:46.234
THOUSAND TWELVE I HAD ATTENDED
01:31:46.300 --> 01:31:47.501
ONE YEAR OF MEDICAL SCHOOL.
01:31:47.568 --> 01:31:49.136
AND JUST BEGAN MY GRADUATE
01:31:49.203 --> 01:31:50.271
STUDIES AT USC STUDYING HEALTH
01:31:50.338 --> 01:31:52.373
POLICY.
01:31:52.440 --> 01:31:53.908
I TRIED TO BOOK AN APPOINTMENT
01:31:53.975 --> 01:31:56.477
TO SEE A FEMALE GYNECOLOGIST.
01:31:56.544 --> 01:31:57.645
BUT I WAS TOLD THAT THE WAIT
01:31:57.712 --> 01:32:00.448
TIME WOULD BE AT LEAST A MONTH.
01:32:00.514 --> 01:32:02.049
SO I OPTED TO SEE THE ONLY FULL
01:32:02.116 --> 01:32:04.652
TIME GYNECOLOGIST AT USC
01:32:04.719 --> 01:32:04.952
[inaudible]
01:32:05.019 --> 01:32:09.023
GEORGE TENET.
01:32:09.090 --> 01:32:10.524
BEFORE THE EXAM BEGAN GEORGE
01:32:10.591 --> 01:32:13.027
KENDALL TOLD ME.
01:32:13.094 --> 01:32:15.129
THAT THE CHAPERONE THAT WAS
01:32:15.196 --> 01:32:16.130
SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE EXAM ROOM.
01:32:16.197 --> 01:32:17.164
WITH HIM [inaudible]
01:32:17.231 --> 01:32:18.966
THAT LEFT.
01:32:19.033 --> 01:32:20.268
AND SHE WOULD BE BACK FOR AT
01:32:20.334 --> 01:32:21.135
LEAST HALF AN HOUR [inaudible]
01:32:21.202 --> 01:32:22.970
ONE MORE.
01:32:23.037 --> 01:32:24.138
AND ASKED ME IF I WANT TO WAIT
01:32:24.205 --> 01:32:26.741
FOR TO COME BACK.
01:32:26.807 --> 01:32:29.543
SO I AGREED TO SEE HIM ALONE.
01:32:29.610 --> 01:32:30.878
ABOUT THREE MINUTES INTO THE
01:32:30.945 --> 01:32:32.179
EXAM THE CHAPERONE KNOCKED ON
01:32:32.246 --> 01:32:34.181
THE DOOR AND ASKED TO COMMENT.
01:32:34.248 --> 01:32:35.616
GEORGE TYNDALL RESPONDED BY
01:32:35.683 --> 01:32:37.251
TELLING HER THAT I GAVE HIM
01:32:37.318 --> 01:32:38.619
PERMISSION TO SEE ME ALONE AND
01:32:38.686 --> 01:32:44.792
LOCKED THE DOOR.
01:32:44.859 --> 01:32:46.060
DURING TYNDALE'S TWENTY PLUS
01:32:46.127 --> 01:32:48.129
YEARS AT USC HE PERFECTED HIS
01:32:48.195 --> 01:32:51.098
CRAFT AS A SEXUAL PREDATOR.
01:32:51.165 --> 01:32:52.133
WHEN TENDO DISCOVERED I TEND TO
01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:54.068
YEAR OF MEDICAL SCHOOL?
01:32:54.135 --> 01:32:56.370
HE SCREEN ME BY ASKING IF I'D
01:32:56.437 --> 01:32:57.371
LEARNED THE PUBLIC AND BREAST
01:32:57.438 --> 01:32:59.006
EXAMS.
01:32:59.073 --> 01:33:03.411
WHICH I HAVE NOT.
01:33:03.477 --> 01:33:05.613
WELL I WAS ON THE EXAM TABLE.
01:33:05.680 --> 01:33:08.716
HE TOLD ME THAT I WAS BEAUTIFUL.
01:33:08.783 --> 01:33:11.886
COMPLIMENTED MY*.
01:33:11.953 --> 01:33:13.321
TOLD ME THEM AWAY FROM MUST
01:33:13.387 --> 01:33:15.990
ENJOY HAVING SEX WITH ME.
01:33:16.057 --> 01:33:17.291
HE DIGITALLY PENETRATED ME.
01:33:17.358 --> 01:33:19.727
BROKE MY PRESS.
01:33:19.794 --> 01:33:20.895
ALL WHILE CLAIMING THERE WAS A
01:33:20.962 --> 01:33:22.330
MEDICAL REASON. FOR EVERYTHING
01:33:22.396 --> 01:33:26.767
HE WAS DOING.
01:33:26.834 --> 01:33:27.768
IN MEDICAL SCHOOL WERE TAUGHT
01:33:27.835 --> 01:33:28.903
THAT EVERY PHYSICIAN HAS THEIR
01:33:28.970 --> 01:33:30.938
OWN STYLE.
01:33:31.005 --> 01:33:32.206
I THOUGHT I WAS MERELY
01:33:32.273 --> 01:33:32.873
UNCOMFORTABLE WITH DOCTOR TEMPLE
01:33:32.940 --> 01:33:34.976
STYLE.
01:33:35.042 --> 01:33:36.477
I TRUSTED HIS EXPERTISE AS A
01:33:36.544 --> 01:33:38.079
POSITION.
01:33:38.145 --> 01:33:40.948
AND IN USC'S JUDGMENT.
01:33:41.015 --> 01:33:42.283
IN HIRING AND RETAINING THIS MAN
01:33:42.350 --> 01:33:44.986
FOR OVER TWENTY YEARS.
01:33:45.052 --> 01:33:46.954
IT WASN'T UNTIL THE NEWS BROKE.
01:33:47.021 --> 01:33:48.723
THE I REALIZE THOSE THINGS HE
01:33:48.789 --> 01:33:50.324
DID TO ME WERE NOT HIS STYLE OF
01:33:50.391 --> 01:33:52.259
PRACTICING MEDICINE.
01:33:52.326 --> 01:33:55.529
HE WAS A SEXUAL PREDATOR.
01:33:55.596 --> 01:33:57.398
HE MOLESTED ME.
01:33:57.465 --> 01:33:58.899
ALONG WITH TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
01:33:58.966 --> 01:34:02.870
OTHER WOMEN AT USC.
01:34:02.937 --> 01:34:04.505
AND TWO THOUSAND AND SIXTEEN U.
01:34:04.572 --> 01:34:05.673
S. C. CONDUCTED THEIR OWN
01:34:05.740 --> 01:34:06.807
INTERNAL INVESTIGATION.
01:34:06.874 --> 01:34:08.809
AND AS YOU HEARD.
01:34:08.876 --> 01:34:09.777
FOUND THAT TYNDALE'S ACTIONS
01:34:09.844 --> 01:34:14.949
WERE NOT CRIMINAL.
01:34:15.016 --> 01:34:16.250
BUT BY U. S. EAST OWN ADMISSION
01:34:16.317 --> 01:34:17.551
THEY RECEIVE FROM COMPLAINTS
01:34:17.618 --> 01:34:19.353
FROM TEN THOSE PATIENTS AS EARLY
01:34:19.420 --> 01:34:26.260
AS THE YEAR.
01:34:26.327 --> 01:34:27.895
TWO THOUSAND ON NBC'S TODAY SHOW
01:34:27.962 --> 01:34:29.663
TO ALUMNI FROM USC SPOKE ABOUT
01:34:29.730 --> 01:34:31.632
FILING COMPLAINTS.
01:34:31.699 --> 01:34:33.134
Q. U. S. C. ABOUT TYNDALL AS
01:34:33.200 --> 01:34:36.037
EARLY AS THE NINETIES.
01:34:36.103 --> 01:34:37.738
AND THERE IS [inaudible]
01:34:37.805 --> 01:34:40.207
A LAWSUIT.
01:34:40.274 --> 01:34:44.779
WHERE THE PLAINTIFF [inaudible]
01:34:44.845 --> 01:34:46.447
DISCUSSED FILING.
01:34:46.514 --> 01:34:48.983
A WRITTEN COMPLAINT TO U. S. C..
01:34:49.050 --> 01:34:50.785
USING THE WORD --
01:34:50.851 --> 01:34:53.487
MOLEST.
01:34:53.554 --> 01:34:55.389
OR MOLESTATION TO DESCRIBE THE
01:34:55.456 --> 01:34:56.891
WAY GEORGE TYNDALL TREATED HIS
01:34:56.957 --> 01:34:59.527
PATIENTS IN.
01:34:59.593 --> 01:35:00.127
NINETEEN EIGHTY EIGHT THIS WAS
01:35:00.194 --> 01:35:01.962
BEFORE GEORGE HANDEL WAS HIRED
01:35:02.029 --> 01:35:03.764
AT USC.
01:35:03.831 --> 01:35:05.499
WHILE HE WAS A RESIDENT.
01:35:05.566 --> 01:35:07.201
WORKING ON A RESEARCH STUDY
01:35:07.268 --> 01:35:07.501
[inaudible]
01:35:07.568 --> 01:35:09.236
AT USC.
01:35:09.303 --> 01:35:11.205
BEFORE HE WAS EVEN CERTIFIED AS
01:35:11.272 --> 01:35:14.542
A PHYSICIAN.
01:35:14.608 --> 01:35:19.580
AND USC HIRED HIM.
01:35:19.647 --> 01:35:20.648
WHILE US IS REPORTING
01:35:20.714 --> 01:35:23.551
REQUIREMENTS UNDER PPC.
01:35:23.617 --> 01:35:25.553
EIGHT OH FIVE THIS UNDER DEBATE.
01:35:25.619 --> 01:35:29.223
CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE SECTION.
01:35:29.290 --> 01:35:31.525
ONE ONE ONE SIXTY CLEAR.
01:35:31.592 --> 01:35:32.793
IT REQUIRES ANYONE WORKING IN A
01:35:32.860 --> 01:35:35.129
MEDICAL FACILITY. TO REPORT
01:35:35.196 --> 01:35:36.697
KNOWLEDGE OR SUSPICION A SEXUAL
01:35:36.764 --> 01:35:39.834
ASSAULT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
01:35:39.900 --> 01:35:43.571
BY FAILING TO NOTIFY POLICE IN.
01:35:43.637 --> 01:35:44.138
NINETEEN EIGHTY EIGHT IN THE
01:35:44.205 --> 01:35:45.339
EARLY NINETIES.
01:35:45.406 --> 01:35:47.374
IN THE TWO THOUSANDS.
01:35:47.441 --> 01:35:49.076
USC WITH COMPOSITE AND PUTTING
01:35:49.143 --> 01:35:50.644
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WOMEN IN
01:35:50.711 --> 01:35:53.080
DANGER OF SEXUAL ABUSE BY GEORGE
01:35:53.147 --> 01:35:53.481
KENDALL.
01:35:53.547 --> 01:35:55.082
BY ALLOWING HIM TO CONTINUE
01:35:55.149 --> 01:35:58.586
PRACTICING MEDICINE.
01:35:58.652 --> 01:36:00.554
IF USC HAD FOLLOW THE LAW.
01:36:00.621 --> 01:36:04.925
I WOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS MAN.
01:36:04.992 --> 01:36:07.294
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.
01:36:07.361 --> 01:36:08.429
SOME THINGS ARE BROUGHT UP BY MR
01:36:08.496 --> 01:36:10.831
CARLSON.
01:36:10.898 --> 01:36:13.234
A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT.
01:36:13.300 --> 01:36:14.301
I HOPE WILL EVENTUALLY BE ASKED
01:36:14.368 --> 01:36:17.238
TO BE ANSWERED.
01:36:17.304 --> 01:36:19.874
EVERY INTENT OF BYPASSING PEER
01:36:19.940 --> 01:36:22.343
REVIEW BY U. S. C..
01:36:22.409 --> 01:36:24.478
WAS TO HAVE.
01:36:24.545 --> 01:36:28.949
MORE EFFICIENT TERMINATION.
01:36:29.016 --> 01:36:30.885
WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF NOT
01:36:30.951 --> 01:36:32.453
REPORTING TYNDALE'S ACTIONS TO
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:34.622
THE LAPD?
01:36:34.688 --> 01:36:42.796
AND TO THE MEDICAL BOARD.
01:36:42.863 --> 01:36:44.732
IF GEORGE HANDLE CLAIMED.
01:36:44.798 --> 01:36:46.667
AT THE TIME OF HIS RESIGNATION
01:36:46.734 --> 01:36:49.136
FORCED RESIGNATION.
01:36:49.203 --> 01:36:51.105
THAT HE WAS GOING.
01:36:51.172 --> 01:36:56.210
TO HIS INTENT WAS TO RETIRE.
01:36:56.277 --> 01:36:57.011
WHAT AUTHORITY DID YOU S. C.
01:36:57.077 --> 01:36:58.612
HAVE?
01:36:58.679 --> 01:37:01.515
IN DECIDING THAT THAT WAS ENOUGH.
01:37:01.582 --> 01:37:02.616
AND THAT HE DID NOT NEED TO BE
01:37:02.683 --> 01:37:07.521
REPORTED.
01:37:07.588 --> 01:37:08.756
USC.
01:37:08.822 --> 01:37:10.891
AND MISTER CARLSON CLAIM THAT
01:37:10.958 --> 01:37:13.427
VERBAL SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
01:37:13.494 --> 01:37:16.163
DOES NOT CAUSE PATIENT HARM.
01:37:16.230 --> 01:37:18.232
I WONDER ABOUT THE EXTENT OF
01:37:18.299 --> 01:37:19.633
HARM CAUSED BY EMOTIONAL
01:37:19.700 --> 01:37:23.571
PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE.
01:37:23.637 --> 01:37:25.472
AND I WONDER ALSO BY THE HARM
01:37:25.539 --> 01:37:27.341
CAUSED BY PATIENTS AVOIDING
01:37:27.408 --> 01:37:33.647
FUTURE POSITION VISITS.
01:37:33.714 --> 01:37:34.982
USC IN MISTER BECAUSE AND ALSO
01:37:35.049 --> 01:37:36.217
CLAIMS THEIR INDEPENDENT
01:37:36.283 --> 01:37:38.252
INVESTIGATION RESULTED IN NO
01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:40.854
REPORTS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.
01:37:40.921 --> 01:37:42.223
I WONDER WHAT QUESTIONS THEY
01:37:42.289 --> 01:37:43.624
WERE ASKING WHO THEY WERE ASKING
01:37:43.691 --> 01:37:43.924
[inaudible]
01:37:43.991 --> 01:37:45.926
IF.
01:37:45.993 --> 01:37:47.428
FEW WEEKS NOT EVEN A MONTH AFTER
01:37:47.494 --> 01:37:48.996
THE LA TIMES.
01:37:49.063 --> 01:37:50.931
I INVESTIGATION BROKE.
01:37:50.998 --> 01:37:52.866
OVER FOUR HUNDRED STUDENTS
01:37:52.933 --> 01:37:53.167
[inaudible]
01:37:53.234 --> 01:37:55.102
TESTIFIED.
01:37:55.169 --> 01:37:56.503
ABOUT INSTANCES OF SEXUAL
01:37:56.570 --> 01:38:04.578
MISCONDUCT.
01:38:04.645 --> 01:38:05.913
I WAS BROUGHT TO THIS COUNTRY
01:38:05.980 --> 01:38:07.147
BECAUSE MY MOTHER THOUGHT I
01:38:07.214 --> 01:38:10.050
WOULD BE SAFE HERE.
01:38:10.117 --> 01:38:11.619
AMERICA'S SAFE WINNERS TUITIONS
01:38:11.685 --> 01:38:14.388
FOLLOW THE LAWS.
01:38:14.455 --> 01:38:18.459
WHEN THESE INSTITUTIONS LIKE USC?
01:38:18.525 --> 01:38:19.059
THE SIDE THAT WE ARE ABOVE THE
01:38:19.126 --> 01:38:20.194
LAW.
01:38:20.261 --> 01:38:30.904
WE'RE ALL IN DANGER.
01:38:30.971 --> 01:38:32.706
GOOD MORNING AND I LIKE TO THINK
01:38:32.773 --> 01:38:34.541
SENATOR HILL AND THE MEMBERS OF
01:38:34.608 --> 01:38:36.977
THE COMMITTEE. FOR HOLDING THIS
01:38:37.044 --> 01:38:38.345
HEARING AND FOR ALLOWING ME TO
01:38:38.412 --> 01:38:40.848
SHARE MY TESTIMONY TODAY.
01:38:40.914 --> 01:38:42.383
THE MONEY WAS SHARE NAY HUGHES
01:38:42.449 --> 01:38:44.785
AND I'M A RECENT GRADUATE OF USC
01:38:44.852 --> 01:38:47.054
FROM THE CLASS.
01:38:47.121 --> 01:38:47.921
TWENTY EIGHTEEN I'M VERY PROUD
01:38:47.988 --> 01:38:49.390
TO SAY THAT BECAUSE AS THE
01:38:49.456 --> 01:38:51.492
GRANDDAUGHTER OF A SHARECROPPER
01:38:51.558 --> 01:38:53.093
AND THE DOMESTIC SERVING.
01:38:53.160 --> 01:38:54.628
NEITHER MY GRANDPARENTS NAM MY
01:38:54.695 --> 01:38:55.729
PARENTS WERE AFFORDED THE
01:38:55.796 --> 01:38:57.331
OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE A COLLEGE
01:38:57.398 --> 01:38:59.400
EDUCATION.
01:38:59.466 --> 01:39:01.235
GROWING UP UNDER THIS LEGACY OF
01:39:01.302 --> 01:39:02.636
STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE I
01:39:02.703 --> 01:39:03.671
UNDERSTAND THE EDUCATION IS
01:39:03.737 --> 01:39:05.839
POWER.
01:39:05.906 --> 01:39:07.341
THIS IS WHY I WAS ELATED TO BE
01:39:07.408 --> 01:39:08.842
THE FIRST MY FAMILY TO ATTEND
01:39:08.909 --> 01:39:10.577
COLLEGE AND MORE OVER TO STUDY
01:39:10.644 --> 01:39:12.012
AT THE PROCEDURES UNIVERSITY OF
01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:13.814
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
01:39:13.881 --> 01:39:15.516
A UNIVERSITY THAT PROMISE A
01:39:15.582 --> 01:39:17.051
COMMITMENT BOTH TO DIVERSE DANCE
01:39:17.117 --> 01:39:19.887
ALL IT STOOD.
01:39:19.953 --> 01:39:21.522
UNFORTUNATELY HOWEVER ONE OF MY
01:39:21.588 --> 01:39:23.957
EARLIEST EXPERIENCES AT U. S. C.
01:39:24.024 --> 01:39:25.359
WAS WITH DOCTOR TYNDALL.
01:39:25.426 --> 01:39:26.493
AND TWENTY FIFTEEN MY FRESHMAN
01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:28.929
YEAR.
01:39:28.996 --> 01:39:30.798
AB JUST EIGHTEEN YEARS OLD AND
01:39:30.864 --> 01:39:32.232
THE FIRST TIME AWAY FROM MY
01:39:32.299 --> 01:39:34.068
PARENTS PROTECTION I SCHEDULE A
01:39:34.134 --> 01:39:37.871
CONSULTATION. FOR BIRTH CONTROL.
01:39:37.938 --> 01:39:39.239
PRETTY IMMEDIATELY DOCTOR
01:39:39.306 --> 01:39:40.941
TYNDALL INTIMIDATED ME WITH
01:39:41.008 --> 01:39:43.310
RACIALLY CHARGED SEXIST COMMENTS
01:39:43.377 --> 01:39:45.279
ABOUT BLACKMUN'S FERTILITY
01:39:45.346 --> 01:39:48.882
SEXUALITY AND PHYSICALITY. FOR
01:39:48.949 --> 01:39:51.985
EXAMPLE AFTER HE INQUIRED ABOUT.
01:39:52.052 --> 01:39:53.754
WHAT I STUDIED IN MY CAREER
01:39:53.821 --> 01:39:55.089
ASPIRATIONS?
01:39:55.155 --> 01:39:56.090
I SHARED THAT I WAS INTERESTED
01:39:56.156 --> 01:39:57.991
IN OPENING BUSINESSES AND LOW
01:39:58.058 --> 01:40:00.427
INCOME BLACK COMMUNITIES.
01:40:00.494 --> 01:40:01.528
DOCTOR TYNDALL RESPONDED AND I
01:40:01.595 --> 01:40:03.731
QUOTE.
01:40:03.797 --> 01:40:04.898
YOU SHOULD OPEN UP MORE CLINICS
01:40:04.965 --> 01:40:05.899
SO THEY CAN STOP HAVING SO MANY
01:40:05.966 --> 01:40:08.669
BABIES.
01:40:08.736 --> 01:40:10.204
HAVING BEEN A STUDENT OF AFRICAN
01:40:10.270 --> 01:40:12.172
AMERICAN STUDIES I KNEW WHERE
01:40:12.239 --> 01:40:13.540
THIS TWISTED LOGIC.
01:40:13.607 --> 01:40:15.909
ULTIMATELY STEMS FROM.
01:40:15.976 --> 01:40:17.311
I WAS TAKEN ABACK BY HIS
01:40:17.378 --> 01:40:18.979
EUGENICIST COMMENTS BECAUSE I
01:40:19.046 --> 01:40:20.314
BELIEVE THAT HE WAS A REPUTABLE
01:40:20.381 --> 01:40:22.316
DOCTOR.
01:40:22.383 --> 01:40:25.386
AT A UNIVERSITY THAT I TRUSTED.
01:40:25.452 --> 01:40:26.920
ADDITIONALLY DOCTOR TENDO WAS
01:40:26.987 --> 01:40:28.889
OVERLY CONCERNED THAT I MAY BE
01:40:28.956 --> 01:40:29.790
PREGNANT.
01:40:29.857 --> 01:40:31.291
IMPRESSIONABLE TO GO TO PLANNED
01:40:31.358 --> 01:40:32.459
PARENTHOOD FOR AN EMERGENCY
01:40:32.526 --> 01:40:34.128
CONTRACEPTION PILL.
01:40:34.194 --> 01:40:36.830
PLAN BEING DESPITE MY STATEMENTS
01:40:36.897 --> 01:40:39.266
THAT IT WAS NOT A CONCERN.
01:40:39.333 --> 01:40:40.868
DOCTOR TEND ALSO RECOMMENDED
01:40:40.934 --> 01:40:42.636
THAT I CONSIDER AND I YOU DE FOR
01:40:42.703 --> 01:40:43.937
WOMEN WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN
01:40:44.004 --> 01:40:44.738
PREGNANT.
01:40:44.805 --> 01:40:46.173
INSISTING THAT IT WAS THE BEST
01:40:46.240 --> 01:40:48.075
OPTION FOR ME WITHOUT EXPLAINING
01:40:48.142 --> 01:40:50.978
RISKS SIDE EFFECTS OR RATIONALE.
01:40:51.044 --> 01:40:52.246
GIVEN THAT I WAS NOT AND HAD
01:40:52.312 --> 01:40:54.581
NEVER BEEN PREGNANT.
01:40:54.648 --> 01:40:56.183
FURTHERMORE HE INSISTED I NEEDED
01:40:56.250 --> 01:40:57.918
A PHYSICAL EXAMINATION.
01:40:57.985 --> 01:40:59.086
AND ALTHOUGH I SIGNED UP FOR
01:40:59.153 --> 01:41:02.656
BIRTH CONTROL CONSULTATION.
01:41:02.723 --> 01:41:04.725
MY FIRST ENCOUNTER WAS A RACIST
01:41:04.792 --> 01:41:06.493
AND SEXIST PRECURSOR FOR THE
01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:08.729
ABUSE THAT I WOULD ULTIMATELY
01:41:08.796 --> 01:41:12.499
EXPERIENCE AT MY NEXT VISIT.
01:41:12.566 --> 01:41:14.134
NOT ONLY DID HE MAKE OFFENSIVE
01:41:14.201 --> 01:41:17.938
REMARKS AS THE US C. COUNTS ARE
01:41:18.005 --> 01:41:20.908
THE U. S. C. COUNCIL DISCUSSED.
01:41:20.974 --> 01:41:22.176
BUT HE ALSO PHYSICALLY ABUSED
01:41:22.242 --> 01:41:23.944
HIS POWER.
01:41:24.011 --> 01:41:25.913
THE DETAILS OF WHICH HAVE BEEN
01:41:25.979 --> 01:41:28.015
DOCUMENTED MORE EXPLICITLY IN
01:41:28.081 --> 01:41:29.183
THE LA TIMES ARTICLE WHICH I
01:41:29.249 --> 01:41:31.952
WILL NOT REPEAT HERE.
01:41:32.019 --> 01:41:33.854
IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT I'VE HAD
01:41:33.921 --> 01:41:35.856
TO EXPERIENCE THESE EFFECTS AS A
01:41:35.923 --> 01:41:36.890
STUDENT.
01:41:36.957 --> 01:41:37.558
AT A UNIVERSITY THAT I'VE CALLED
01:41:37.624 --> 01:41:41.161
HOME.
01:41:41.228 --> 01:41:43.697
I SHOULD NEVER MET THIS MAN.
01:41:43.764 --> 01:41:45.699
GIVEN THE COUNTLESS COMPLAINTS
01:41:45.766 --> 01:41:47.668
THE UNIVERSITY HAD AGAINST HIM
01:41:47.734 --> 01:41:50.070
OVER A COURSE OF DECADES.
01:41:50.137 --> 01:41:51.538
IT IS INEXCUSABLE THAT THE
01:41:51.605 --> 01:41:53.774
UNIVERSITY PAID DOCTOR TYNDALL
01:41:53.841 --> 01:41:55.108
TO QUIETLY RESIGNED WITHOUT
01:41:55.175 --> 01:41:56.477
REPORTING IT TO THE MEDICAL
01:41:56.543 --> 01:41:57.344
BOARD.
01:41:57.411 --> 01:41:58.612
THE POLICE OR EVEN STUDENTS LIKE
01:41:58.679 --> 01:42:01.448
MYSELF.
01:42:01.515 --> 01:42:02.115
MADE A COMPLAINT TO THE HELP
01:42:02.182 --> 01:42:04.952
CENTER IN TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN
01:42:05.018 --> 01:42:06.086
AND I HEARD NOTHING FROM THE
01:42:06.153 --> 01:42:07.654
UNIVERSITY UNTIL THEY'VE
01:42:07.721 --> 01:42:09.256
RELEASED A STATEMENT ALL
01:42:09.323 --> 01:42:10.290
STUDENTS.
01:42:10.357 --> 01:42:11.258
THE DAY BEFORE THE LA TIMES
01:42:11.325 --> 01:42:13.627
ARTICLE DRAW.
01:42:13.694 --> 01:42:16.029
THERE'S NO EXCUSE.
01:42:16.096 --> 01:42:19.766
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW A RACIST
01:42:19.833 --> 01:42:21.168
POSITION IS NOT IN DANGER
01:42:21.235 --> 01:42:23.337
PATIENTS.
01:42:23.403 --> 01:42:25.405
OR PRESENT AN ISSUE FOR THE
01:42:25.472 --> 01:42:28.041
STANDARD OF CARE.
01:42:28.108 --> 01:42:29.910
HE'S ABLE TO GIVE STUDENTS WHEN
01:42:29.977 --> 01:42:31.211
HE IS EXPLICITLY TARGETING
01:42:31.278 --> 01:42:32.312
TARGETING.
01:42:32.379 --> 01:42:33.647
ETHNIC MINORITIES AND WOMEN OF
01:42:33.714 --> 01:42:37.251
COLOR.
01:42:37.317 --> 01:42:39.987
USA SAYS THAT THEY KNEW HE WAS
01:42:40.053 --> 01:42:41.989
RACES BUT DIDN'T NECESSARILY
01:42:42.055 --> 01:42:43.223
FEEL THE NEED TO REPORT TO THE
01:42:43.290 --> 01:42:44.291
BOARD BECAUSE IT WAS A CIVIL
01:42:44.358 --> 01:42:46.827
ISSUE BUT TARGETING WOMEN OF
01:42:46.894 --> 01:42:48.795
COLOR FOR SEXUAL ABUSE IS BOTH
01:42:48.862 --> 01:42:49.730
RACIAL.
01:42:49.796 --> 01:42:51.932
AND SEXUAL.
01:42:51.999 --> 01:42:53.166
AND IT DIRECTLY AFFECTED MY
01:42:53.233 --> 01:43:00.073
PIECE HERE.
01:43:00.140 --> 01:43:01.508
MOVING FORWARD SURVIVORS LIKE
01:43:01.575 --> 01:43:04.444
MYSELF AND CLOSE FRIENDS OF MINE.
01:43:04.511 --> 01:43:06.146
DESERVE COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY
01:43:06.213 --> 01:43:07.748
FROM THE UNIVERSITY.
01:43:07.814 --> 01:43:09.550
ABOUT WHY COMPLAINTS SUCH AS
01:43:09.616 --> 01:43:11.084
OURS WERE NEVER RESOLVED AND HOW
01:43:11.151 --> 01:43:12.853
HE WAS ABLE TO PRACTICE FOR
01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:15.689
NEARLY. THIRTY YEARS.
01:43:15.756 --> 01:43:17.157
U. S. C. SHOULD ASO SERIOUSLY
01:43:17.224 --> 01:43:19.526
ADDRESS THE CULTURAL PROBLEMS.
01:43:19.593 --> 01:43:20.894
THAT PROMOTE RACISM AND SEXISM
01:43:20.961 --> 01:43:22.930
MATH INSTITUTION.
01:43:22.996 --> 01:43:24.698
INDIVIDUAL ACTORS ARE ALLOWED TO
01:43:24.765 --> 01:43:26.867
ABUSE AND DISCRIMINATE AGAINST
01:43:26.934 --> 01:43:27.901
WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR
01:43:27.968 --> 01:43:29.736
BECAUSE OF CULTURAL DEVALUATIONS
01:43:29.803 --> 01:43:32.573
OF CERTAIN GROUPS [inaudible]
01:43:32.639 --> 01:43:33.507
FINALLY.
01:43:33.574 --> 01:43:35.709
USC'S SETTLED VIABLE FOR
01:43:35.776 --> 01:43:37.411
COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ACROSS
01:43:37.477 --> 01:43:39.246
THE COUNTRY BY COMPLETELY
01:43:39.313 --> 01:43:40.480
DISTANCING THEMSELVES FROM
01:43:40.547 --> 01:43:41.848
DOCTOR TANDEM HOLDING ALL
01:43:41.915 --> 01:43:43.750
INVOLVED PARTIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR
01:43:43.817 --> 01:43:45.652
THEIR ACTIONS.
01:43:45.719 --> 01:43:47.087
IT'S TIME FOR YOU S. C. TO STAND
01:43:47.154 --> 01:43:48.655
WITH THEIR STUDENTS.
01:43:48.722 --> 01:43:51.892
ALL OF THEIR STUDENTS.
01:43:51.959 --> 01:43:53.393
MAILING PAIN DOCTOR TINDALL TO
01:43:53.460 --> 01:43:55.228
QUIETLY RESIGNED SILENCE IS MY
01:43:55.295 --> 01:43:57.230
VOICE IN THE VOICES OF ALL
01:43:57.297 --> 01:43:59.399
OTHERS WHO BRAVELY SPOKE OUT FOR
01:43:59.466 --> 01:44:00.367
YEARS.
01:44:00.434 --> 01:44:01.168
AGAINST HIS MISCONDUCT
01:44:01.234 --> 01:44:01.468
[inaudible]
01:44:01.535 --> 01:44:02.636
THINKING.
01:44:02.703 --> 01:44:04.371
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TO BE IN
01:44:04.438 --> 01:44:05.672
HERE [inaudible]
01:44:05.739 --> 01:44:07.708
YES MA'AM.
01:44:07.774 --> 01:44:08.342
THINK THERE IS RETURN MEMBERS
01:44:08.408 --> 01:44:09.843
MAKE IT ALRIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE
01:44:09.910 --> 01:44:12.045
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION.
01:44:12.112 --> 01:44:13.413
AND THE EMMY THINKS THE FOR
01:44:13.480 --> 01:44:14.581
GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO
01:44:14.648 --> 01:44:16.316
COMMENT ON THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC
01:44:16.383 --> 01:44:17.084
AS WE HAVE.
01:44:17.150 --> 01:44:18.986
MAYOR I'VE SEEN RECENTLY THERE
01:44:19.052 --> 01:44:20.487
CAN BE GRAVE CONSEQUENCES WHEN
01:44:20.554 --> 01:44:21.722
THE MEDICAL LICENSING AND
01:44:21.788 --> 01:44:22.990
REPORTING SYSTEM.
01:44:23.056 --> 01:44:25.225
FAILS TO STOP SEXUAL PREDATORS
01:44:25.292 --> 01:44:26.994
WHO ABUSE THE TRUST OF PATIENTS
01:44:27.060 --> 01:44:27.995
WE NEED OUR REPORTING AND
01:44:28.061 --> 01:44:29.663
DISCIPLINE SYSTEM THAT IS
01:44:29.730 --> 01:44:30.864
EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT IN
01:44:30.931 --> 01:44:31.898
WEEDING OUT POSITIONS WHO
01:44:31.965 --> 01:44:33.333
THREATEN PATIENT CARE.
01:44:33.400 --> 01:44:34.434
OR WORSE THREATEN PATIENTS
01:44:34.501 --> 01:44:36.103
THEMSELVES.
01:44:36.169 --> 01:44:37.671
BUT ASSISTANT RUSHES TO JUDGMENT
01:44:37.738 --> 01:44:38.639
TO QUICKLY WITHOUT ATTENTION TO
01:44:38.705 --> 01:44:39.706
FACTS AND UNDERSTANDING OF
01:44:39.773 --> 01:44:41.074
CONTEXT.
01:44:41.141 --> 01:44:42.342
NOT TO MENTION A SYSTEM THAT
01:44:42.409 --> 01:44:44.011
RELIES TOO HEAVILY ON BROAD
01:44:44.077 --> 01:44:45.479
STROKES OF DRACONIAN PUNISHMENT
01:44:45.545 --> 01:44:46.713
CAN TO SERVE THE PUBLIC AND
01:44:46.780 --> 01:44:48.015
UNDERMINE OUR ACCESS TO QUALITY
01:44:48.081 --> 01:44:49.950
MEDICAL CARE.
01:44:50.017 --> 01:44:51.218
LAWLER SYSTEM IS NOT PERFECT IS
01:44:51.284 --> 01:44:52.819
BEEN CAREFULLY HONED OVER THE
01:44:52.886 --> 01:44:54.187
YEARS BY THE COURTS STATE
01:44:54.254 --> 01:44:56.790
AGENCIES AND THE LEGISLATURE. TO
01:44:56.857 --> 01:44:58.392
CREATE AN INTERTWINED IMBALANCED
01:44:58.458 --> 01:45:00.560
COMPLEX OF REPORTING OBLIGATIONS
01:45:00.627 --> 01:45:01.928
COMPLAINT SYSTEMS AND
01:45:01.995 --> 01:45:03.497
INVESTIGATORY DISCIPLINARY
01:45:03.563 --> 01:45:04.798
PROCESSES.
01:45:04.865 --> 01:45:06.700
WHICH NOT SO EASILY FORGOTTEN OR
01:45:06.767 --> 01:45:08.268
OVERLOOKED THIS BODIES OFFICIAL
01:45:08.335 --> 01:45:10.003
DECLARATION OF STATE POLICY
01:45:10.070 --> 01:45:11.605
REGARDING PEER REVIEW.
01:45:11.672 --> 01:45:13.340
OUR CORE SYSTEM FOR IDENTIFYING
01:45:13.407 --> 01:45:14.574
INVESTIGATING AND DISCIPLINING
01:45:14.641 --> 01:45:15.809
POSITIONS [inaudible]
01:45:15.876 --> 01:45:17.678
A QUOTE.
01:45:17.744 --> 01:45:19.379
BNP SECTION EIGHT OR NINE PEER
01:45:19.446 --> 01:45:21.548
REVEAL FAIRLY CON CONDUCTED IS
01:45:21.615 --> 01:45:23.050
ESSENTIAL TO PRESERVING THE
01:45:23.116 --> 01:45:24.084
HIGHEST STANDARDS OF MEDICAL
01:45:24.151 --> 01:45:25.552
PRACTICE.
01:45:25.619 --> 01:45:26.787
YOUR VIEW THAT IS NOT CONDUCTED
01:45:26.853 --> 01:45:28.021
FAIRLY RESULTS IN HARM TO BOTH
01:45:28.088 --> 01:45:29.222
PATIENTS AND HEALING ARTS
01:45:29.289 --> 01:45:30.724
PRACTITIONERS BY LIMITING ACCESS
01:45:30.791 --> 01:45:32.192
TO CARE.
01:45:32.259 --> 01:45:33.827
PEER REVIEW FAIRLY CONDUCTED
01:45:33.894 --> 01:45:35.128
WILL AID THE APPROPRIATE STATE
01:45:35.195 --> 01:45:36.196
LICENSING BOARDS IN THEIR
01:45:36.263 --> 01:45:38.065
RESPONSIBILITY TO REGULATE AND
01:45:38.131 --> 01:45:39.399
DISCIPLINE AARON HEALING ARTS
01:45:39.466 --> 01:45:40.667
PRACTITIONERS.
01:45:40.734 --> 01:45:41.835
AND IT IS THE INTENT OF THE
01:45:41.902 --> 01:45:43.870
LEGISLATURE THAT PEER REVIEW OF
01:45:43.937 --> 01:45:44.571
PROFESSIONAL HEALTH CARE
01:45:44.638 --> 01:45:46.973
SERVICES BE DONE EFFICIENTLY ON
01:45:47.040 --> 01:45:48.608
AN ONGOING BASIS AND WITH AN
01:45:48.675 --> 01:45:50.210
EMPHASIS ON EARLY DETECTION OF
01:45:50.277 --> 01:45:51.912
POTENTIAL QUALITY PROBLEMS.
01:45:51.978 --> 01:45:53.580
AND RESOLUTIONS THEIR INFORMAL
01:45:53.647 --> 01:45:55.982
EDUCATIONAL INTERVENTIONS.
01:45:56.049 --> 01:45:56.917
WE BELIEVE THAT RECENT
01:45:56.983 --> 01:45:58.318
CONTROVERSIES AT USC MEDICAL
01:45:58.385 --> 01:45:59.686
SCHOOL AND HOSPITAL SHOULD BE
01:45:59.753 --> 01:46:01.888
VIEWED LESS IS AN INDICTMENT ON
01:46:01.955 --> 01:46:03.356
ANY FEELINGS OF OUR SYSTEM.
01:46:03.423 --> 01:46:05.025
AND MORE PERHAPS AS FEELINGS OF
01:46:05.092 --> 01:46:07.427
INDIVIDUALS AND INSTITUTIONS WE
01:46:07.494 --> 01:46:08.695
URGE THE MEDICAL BOARD AND OTHER
01:46:08.762 --> 01:46:10.330
STATE AGENCIES TO PROBE DEEPLY
01:46:10.397 --> 01:46:12.799
TO UNCOVER ALL VIOLATIONS.
01:46:12.866 --> 01:46:14.067
AND VIOLATORS OF REPORTING
01:46:14.134 --> 01:46:15.569
OBLIGATIONS AND TO TAKE SWIFT
01:46:15.635 --> 01:46:16.903
ACTION USING THE VAST POWERS
01:46:16.970 --> 01:46:20.540
THAT CURRENTLY BEST.
01:46:20.607 --> 01:46:21.708
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS THERE
01:46:21.775 --> 01:46:23.677
ANYONE ELSE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE
01:46:23.744 --> 01:46:25.645
TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT IF
01:46:25.712 --> 01:46:28.882
THERE IS PLEASE COME FORWARD.
01:46:28.949 --> 01:46:30.383
SCENE NO --
01:46:30.450 --> 01:46:32.219
ONE AGAIN THANK YOU.
01:46:32.285 --> 01:46:33.520
EVERYONE TO THOSE WHO ARE
01:46:33.587 --> 01:46:35.122
PRESENTING ON THE PANELS AND FOR
01:46:35.188 --> 01:46:38.391
THE PEOPLE SPEAKING UNDER PUBLIC
01:46:38.458 --> 01:46:40.093
COMMENT -- I
01:46:40.160 --> 01:46:41.628
CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW.
01:46:41.695 --> 01:46:44.231
DIFFICULT IT MUST BE. TO TELL
01:46:44.297 --> 01:46:45.098
THOSE STORIES --
01:46:45.165 --> 01:46:47.567
AND HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THE
01:46:47.634 --> 01:46:49.269
INFORMATION AND THAT WILL HELP
01:46:49.336 --> 01:46:50.470
US I THINK WE LEARNED A LOT
01:46:50.537 --> 01:46:52.439
TODAY IN TERMS OF WHICH PASSED
01:46:52.506 --> 01:46:54.141
TAKEN WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME.
01:46:54.207 --> 01:46:55.876
SOME OF THE HOLES IN THE SYSTEM
01:46:55.942 --> 01:46:56.777
THAT --
01:46:56.843 --> 01:46:58.879
ALLOWED THIS TO GO ON NOTICED BY
01:46:58.945 --> 01:47:00.614
THE MEDICAL BOARD AND THAT THE
01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:01.615
PROFESSIONALS WHO MAKE THOSE
01:47:01.681 --> 01:47:03.049
DECISIONS THANK YOU VERY MUCH
01:47:03.116 --> 01:47:04.184
FOR BEING HERE.
01:47:04.251 --> 01:47:04.718
THANK YOU FOR UP FOR THIS
01:47:04.785 --> 01:47:06.253
HEARING THIS.
01:47:06.319 --> 01:47:07.587
PART OF OUR THE SPECIAL HEARING
01:47:07.654 --> 01:47:24.137
IS THE IS CONCLUDED THANK YOU
01:59:39.605 --> 01:59:39.672
.
01:59:39.672 --> 01:59:41.307
WELL GOOD AFTERNOON --
01:59:41.374 --> 01:59:42.475
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE AND
01:59:42.542 --> 01:59:43.943
WELCOME TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE
01:59:44.010 --> 01:59:45.278
ON BUSINESS PROFESSIONS AND
01:59:45.344 --> 01:59:47.179
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT FOR
01:59:47.246 --> 01:59:48.247
OUR HEARING TODAY.
01:59:48.314 --> 01:59:52.518
JUNE OF TWO JUNE EIGHTEENTH
01:59:52.585 --> 01:59:53.986
TWENTY EIGHTEEN WE HAVE A TWENTY
01:59:54.053 --> 01:59:55.121
EIGHT BILLS ON FILE TODAY
01:59:55.187 --> 01:59:57.657
HOWEVER FILE ITEM THIRTEEN HAS
01:59:57.723 --> 01:59:59.125
BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
01:59:59.191 --> 02:00:01.594
AND FILE ITEM TWENTY FIVE HAS
02:00:01.661 --> 02:00:02.895
BEEN PULLED BY THE AUTHOR.
02:00:02.962 --> 02:00:04.230
WE HAVE TWO ITEMS PROPOSED FOR
02:00:04.297 --> 02:00:08.367
CONSENT FILE ITEM TEN AB.
02:00:08.434 --> 02:00:09.468
TWENTY EIGHTY SIX AND FILE ITEM
02:00:09.535 --> 02:00:11.971
FIFTEEN AB TWENTY TWO NINETY SIX
02:00:12.038 --> 02:00:13.506
WE WILL BEGIN AS A SUBCOMMITTEE
02:00:13.573 --> 02:00:14.807
SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE.
02:00:14.874 --> 02:00:16.142
A QUORUM ESTABLISHED AT THIS
02:00:16.208 --> 02:00:17.343
POINT I SEE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
02:00:17.410 --> 02:00:18.711
QUIRK IS HERE PLEASE
02:00:18.778 --> 02:00:19.011
[inaudible]
02:00:19.078 --> 02:00:21.914
PERFECT TIMING.
02:00:21.981 --> 02:00:23.683
AND WE ARE MOVING THIS WILL BE
02:00:23.749 --> 02:00:27.587
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY ONE AB TWENTY
02:00:27.653 --> 02:00:28.220
FOUR FIFTY PLEASE PROCEED
02:00:28.287 --> 02:00:30.623
SEVERED OFF THANK YOU SENATORS
02:00:30.690 --> 02:00:35.127
HILLS DOTTED AND GALGIANI.
02:00:35.194 --> 02:00:35.661
BOB I WANT TO THANK THE
02:00:35.728 --> 02:00:36.562
COMMITTEE FOR WORKING CLOSELY
02:00:36.629 --> 02:00:37.930
WITH MY STAFF AB TWENTY FOUR
02:00:37.997 --> 02:00:38.731
FIFTY WOULD MAKE CHANGES TO
02:00:38.798 --> 02:00:41.200
CALIFORNIA'S EXISTING.
02:00:41.267 --> 02:00:42.969
METALLIC DOT FILLED BALLOONS
02:00:43.035 --> 02:00:43.803
WHICH WOULD INCREASE CONSUMER
02:00:43.869 --> 02:00:45.571
KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE RISKS THAT
02:00:45.638 --> 02:00:47.239
THEY REPRESENT.
02:00:47.306 --> 02:00:48.841
CURRENTLY BALLOONS THAT ARE SOLD
02:00:48.908 --> 02:00:50.810
IN THE STATE MUST HAVE FIXED
02:00:50.876 --> 02:00:53.079
WARNINGS WHICH DETAIL THE
02:00:53.145 --> 02:00:53.746
HAZARDS OF THE BILL BLOOM COMES
02:00:53.813 --> 02:00:56.182
INTO CONTACT WITH POWER LINES.
02:00:56.248 --> 02:00:58.084
UNDER AB TWENTY FOUR FIFTY THAT
02:00:58.150 --> 02:00:59.652
WARNING WOULD BE CURRENTLY
02:00:59.719 --> 02:01:00.486
PRINTED IN A READABLE SIZE AND
02:01:00.553 --> 02:01:02.321
LOCATION.
02:01:02.388 --> 02:01:03.522
AND A BALLOON THAT THE SOLDIER
02:01:03.589 --> 02:01:05.791
MANUFACTURED IN THE STATE MUST
02:01:05.858 --> 02:01:09.428
TAP THE ENHANCED WARNING --
02:01:09.495 --> 02:01:11.864
RIVER OUR THE ARM EXPERT HASN'T
02:01:11.931 --> 02:01:13.633
ARRIVED BUT FTA.
02:01:13.699 --> 02:01:15.701
I'M I'M SURE THAT.
02:01:15.768 --> 02:01:17.336
WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO ANSWER
02:01:17.403 --> 02:01:19.005
ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE THANK YOU
02:01:19.071 --> 02:01:20.006
YOU THINK USURY AND AND I WAS
02:01:20.072 --> 02:01:21.907
AMAZED.
02:01:21.974 --> 02:01:24.243
AT THE NUMBERS OF POWER OUTAGES
02:01:24.310 --> 02:01:26.412
CAUSED BY THOSE MYLAR BALLOONS
02:01:26.479 --> 02:01:28.514
IT WAS LIKE FIVE HUNDRED IN THE
02:01:28.581 --> 02:01:30.850
PGT SERVICE AREA. THOUSAND OR SO
02:01:30.916 --> 02:01:31.417
IN -- AND
02:01:31.484 --> 02:01:33.753
OTHERS I IT'S IT'S AMAZING THAT.
02:01:33.819 --> 02:01:35.488
THE DESTRUCTIVE POWER IN THAT
02:01:35.554 --> 02:01:37.356
THE INCONVENIENCE TO SO MANY
02:01:37.423 --> 02:01:40.526
PEOPLE SO THAT OBSERVE AMAZING.
02:01:40.593 --> 02:01:42.094
I LIKE THE BILL SORT OF WILL
02:01:42.161 --> 02:01:43.529
OPEN THIS TO A TESTIMONY TO ALL
02:01:43.596 --> 02:01:46.098
THOSE IN SUPPORT OF ASSEMBLY
02:01:46.165 --> 02:01:46.732
MEMBER QUIRK SCIFIL PLEASE COME
02:01:46.799 --> 02:01:52.838
FORWARD.
02:01:52.905 --> 02:01:53.639
MISTER CHAIRMAN WAS
02:01:53.706 --> 02:01:55.007
TRANSMITTABLE HEALTHY CALIFORNIA
02:01:55.074 --> 02:01:57.343
MUNICIPAL UTILITIES ASSOCIATION
02:01:57.410 --> 02:01:58.644
AND SUPPORT WE THINK LITTLE
02:01:58.711 --> 02:02:00.780
CONSUMER EDUCATION IS WARRANTED
02:02:00.846 --> 02:02:02.948
BASED ON OF THE POWER OUTAGE
02:02:03.015 --> 02:02:04.050
ISSUE THAT YOU BROUGHT FORTH
02:02:04.116 --> 02:02:05.117
THANK YOU.
02:02:05.184 --> 02:02:09.155
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FRED PLEASE
02:02:09.221 --> 02:02:10.856
CHAIR MEMBERS POWERS AS GIVE
02:02:10.923 --> 02:02:12.792
BEHALF OF THE SANDWICHES COPIA
02:02:12.858 --> 02:02:14.627
REPRESENTS A DISTRICT IN SUPPORT
02:02:14.694 --> 02:02:15.594
THANK.
02:02:15.661 --> 02:02:16.729
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR
02:02:16.796 --> 02:02:17.897
MEMBERS ROD BREWER WITH SOUTHERN
02:02:17.963 --> 02:02:19.398
CALIFORNIA EDISON WE'RE HERE IN
02:02:19.465 --> 02:02:21.734
SUPPORT OF THE BILL AND COMMAND
02:02:21.801 --> 02:02:22.334
THE SEVEN MEMBER QUIRK FIRST
02:02:22.401 --> 02:02:23.736
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE VERY
02:02:23.803 --> 02:02:25.705
GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
02:02:25.771 --> 02:02:26.972
THAT OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
02:02:27.039 --> 02:02:27.773
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
02:02:27.840 --> 02:02:30.910
OPPOSITION.
02:02:30.976 --> 02:02:33.546
SCENE THEN BRING IT BACK FOR
02:02:33.612 --> 02:02:34.146
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FEEL NOT
02:02:34.213 --> 02:02:34.914
AT THE WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
02:02:34.980 --> 02:02:36.982
ASSEMBLY MEMBER QUIRK.
02:02:37.049 --> 02:02:38.451
VERY GOOD WE WILL --
02:02:38.517 --> 02:02:40.252
SOON AS WE ESTABLISH A QUORUM WE
02:02:40.319 --> 02:02:41.854
WILL TAKE THIS MATTER UP AND
02:02:41.921 --> 02:02:43.889
HAVE VOTE AT HE SANK VERY MUCH
02:02:43.956 --> 02:02:48.194
GREAT BILL.
02:02:48.260 --> 02:02:49.695
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER HIS ARYAN.
02:02:49.762 --> 02:02:54.867
WELCOME ITEM NUMBER ONE AB.
02:02:54.934 --> 02:02:55.468
TWELVE FORTY SEVEN AND I JUST
02:02:55.534 --> 02:02:56.435
WANTED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT
02:02:56.502 --> 02:02:58.437
BEFORE THE HEARING BEGINS AT
02:02:58.504 --> 02:03:00.206
THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK BECAUSE
02:03:00.272 --> 02:03:02.808
OF THE NUMBER OF BILLS THAT WE
02:03:02.875 --> 02:03:05.077
WILL BE HAVING TO WITNESSES --
02:03:05.144 --> 02:03:06.479
TWO MINUTES EACH FOR THOSE THAT
02:03:06.545 --> 02:03:08.380
SUPPORT AND OPPOSED AND OTHERS
02:03:08.447 --> 02:03:09.315
WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR
02:03:09.381 --> 02:03:10.983
COMMENTS KNOWN A AT THE
02:03:11.050 --> 02:03:12.685
MICROPHONE TO REALLY MEAN
02:03:12.752 --> 02:03:14.153
TESTIMONY TO TWO MINUTES --
02:03:14.220 --> 02:03:17.490
IN SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION OF WITH.
02:03:17.556 --> 02:03:19.125
TO THE OPRY FOR TWO PEOPLE TO
02:03:19.191 --> 02:03:19.725
SPEAK OF EACH ITEM [inaudible]
02:03:19.792 --> 02:03:23.562
THE SAME IF YOU.
02:03:23.629 --> 02:03:24.130
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I'M
02:03:24.196 --> 02:03:26.465
PRESENTING AB TWELVE FORTY SEVEN
02:03:26.532 --> 02:03:27.466
FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
02:03:27.533 --> 02:03:28.801
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR WORKING WITH
02:03:28.868 --> 02:03:30.002
MY OFFICE.
02:03:30.069 --> 02:03:31.070
AND WE WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
02:03:31.137 --> 02:03:32.338
RECOMMENDED COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
02:03:32.404 --> 02:03:33.672
THIS BILL.
02:03:33.739 --> 02:03:34.940
AS THIS BILL MOVES US THROUGH
02:03:35.007 --> 02:03:37.209
THE PROCESS I LOOK FORWARD.
02:03:37.276 --> 02:03:38.611
TO OF WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE
02:03:38.677 --> 02:03:40.146
STAFF TO ENSURE THIS BILL
02:03:40.212 --> 02:03:42.114
ARRIVES AT THE GOVERNOR'S DESK
02:03:42.181 --> 02:03:43.682
AND ITS BEST POSSIBLE FORM.
02:03:43.749 --> 02:03:44.884
AT THIS BILL WOULD REQUIRE
02:03:44.950 --> 02:03:46.085
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARY HE'S
02:03:46.152 --> 02:03:47.686
RECEIVED CULTURAL COMPETENCY
02:03:47.753 --> 02:03:50.389
TRAINING FOR SERVING PATIENTS IN
02:03:50.456 --> 02:03:52.358
THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.
02:03:52.424 --> 02:03:53.292
PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARY IS
02:03:53.359 --> 02:03:55.261
PROVIDE CRITICAL SERVICES TO
02:03:55.327 --> 02:03:56.095
SENIORS AND PERSONS WITH
02:03:56.162 --> 02:03:58.097
DISABILITIES THEY MANAGE MATTERS
02:03:58.164 --> 02:04:00.566
FOR CLIENTS INCLUDING DAILY CARE
02:04:00.633 --> 02:04:02.101
HOUSING AND MEDICAL NEEDS.
02:04:02.168 --> 02:04:04.336
UNFORTUNATELY LGBTQ SENIORS FACE
02:04:04.403 --> 02:04:06.906
UNIQUE CHALLENGES AS THEY AGE
02:04:06.972 --> 02:04:07.907
AND ARE AMONG THE MOST
02:04:07.973 --> 02:04:09.275
VULNERABLE POPULATION IN OUR
02:04:09.341 --> 02:04:10.376
SOCIETY.
02:04:10.442 --> 02:04:11.510
THESE CHALLENGES INCLUDE
02:04:11.577 --> 02:04:13.145
BARRIERS TO RECEIVING FORMAL
02:04:13.212 --> 02:04:15.781
HEALTH CARE AND SOCIAL SUPPORT
02:04:15.848 --> 02:04:18.117
THAT HETEROSEXUAL SEX GENDER
02:04:18.184 --> 02:04:20.286
ADULTS DO NOT ENCOUNTER.
02:04:20.352 --> 02:04:22.288
SEVERAL STUDIES REPORT LGBTQ
02:04:22.354 --> 02:04:24.423
SENIORS AVOID OR DELAY HEALTH
02:04:24.490 --> 02:04:26.258
CARE OR CONCEAL THEIR SEXUAL AND
02:04:26.325 --> 02:04:27.726
GENDER IDENTITY FROM HEALTH
02:04:27.793 --> 02:04:28.894
PROVIDERS.
02:04:28.961 --> 02:04:30.996
AND SOCIAL SERVICE PROPORTIONAL
02:04:31.063 --> 02:04:32.364
SO FOR FEAR OF DISCRIMINATION.
02:04:32.431 --> 02:04:34.033
IN ADDITION COMPARED TO
02:04:34.099 --> 02:04:35.901
HETEROSEXUAL CIS GENDERED ADULTS
02:04:35.968 --> 02:04:38.871
LGBTQ OLDER ADULTS TYPICALLY%
02:04:38.938 --> 02:04:41.173
HAVE FEWER OPTIONS. FOR INFORMAL
02:04:41.240 --> 02:04:42.942
CARE AND ARE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE
02:04:43.008 --> 02:04:46.178
FAMILY TO TURN TO FOR CARE.
02:04:46.245 --> 02:04:47.546
THIS BILL IS INTENDED TO ENSURE
02:04:47.613 --> 02:04:49.982
THAT LGBTQ SENIORS GET COMPETENT
02:04:50.049 --> 02:04:51.684
AND RESPECTFUL CARE.
02:04:51.750 --> 02:04:53.485
A BY PROFESSIONAL FIDUCIARY BY
02:04:53.552 --> 02:04:55.454
REQUIRING LGBTQ CULTURAL
02:04:55.521 --> 02:04:56.455
COMPETENCY AND SENSITIVITY
02:04:56.522 --> 02:04:57.723
TRAINING.
02:04:57.790 --> 02:04:58.824
DURING THE EDUCATION AND
02:04:58.891 --> 02:05:00.926
LICENSING PROCESS.
02:05:00.993 --> 02:05:03.929
WITH ME AND I HAVE ALYSA KESSLER
02:05:03.996 --> 02:05:05.898
WITH EQUALITY CALIFORNIA.
02:05:05.965 --> 02:05:07.233
GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH PLEASE
02:05:07.299 --> 02:05:09.068
PROCEED THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
02:05:09.134 --> 02:05:10.502
CENTER GALGIANI ALICE KESSLER
02:05:10.569 --> 02:05:11.470
HERE REPRESENTING EQUALITY
02:05:11.537 --> 02:05:13.339
CALIFORNIA WE WOULD LIKE TO
02:05:13.405 --> 02:05:15.074
THINK ASSEMBLY MEMBER IN THIS
02:05:15.140 --> 02:05:15.674
AREA FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
02:05:15.741 --> 02:05:17.409
FORWARD --
02:05:17.476 --> 02:05:19.478
IT'S VERY GOOD POLICY TO ENSURE
02:05:19.545 --> 02:05:21.647
THAT THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT
02:05:21.714 --> 02:05:22.581
HAVE SUCH AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO
02:05:22.648 --> 02:05:24.516
PLAY. FOR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS
02:05:24.583 --> 02:05:26.151
TO HAVE THE TRAINING THAT THEY
02:05:26.218 --> 02:05:27.386
NEED TO WORK WITH THESE
02:05:27.453 --> 02:05:29.588
COMMUNITIES AND MISTER NAZARIAN
02:05:29.655 --> 02:05:31.123
EXPLAINED I THINK VERY WELL THE
02:05:31.190 --> 02:05:32.458
NEED FOR THE BILL.
02:05:32.524 --> 02:05:33.959
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT YOU KNOW
02:05:34.026 --> 02:05:35.160
FOR MANY FOLKS IN THIS
02:05:35.227 --> 02:05:37.196
POPULATION THEY CAME OF AGE AT A
02:05:37.263 --> 02:05:39.265
TIME WHEN DISCRIMINATION WAS
02:05:39.331 --> 02:05:40.599
STILL PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE LAW
02:05:40.666 --> 02:05:42.334
AND WE'VE TAKEN GREAT STRIDES
02:05:42.401 --> 02:05:44.403
FORWARD SINCE THAT TIME BUT FOR
02:05:44.470 --> 02:05:45.537
MANY OF THEM THEY STILL BEAR THE
02:05:45.604 --> 02:05:47.806
SCARS OF OF GROWING UP.
02:05:47.873 --> 02:05:50.309
IN A TIME WHEN IT WAS NOT A Q.
02:05:50.376 --> 02:05:51.677
WHEN THEIR FAMILIES MAY HAVE
02:05:51.744 --> 02:05:53.612
REJECTED THEM WHEN THEY MAY HAVE
02:05:53.679 --> 02:05:55.447
FACED OPEN DISCRIMINATION AND
02:05:55.514 --> 02:05:56.949
HOUSING OR EMPLOYMENT.
02:05:57.016 --> 02:05:59.952
MILITARY SERVICE AND SO ON THE
02:06:00.019 --> 02:06:01.253
VESTIGES OF THAT DISCRIMINATION
02:06:01.320 --> 02:06:03.055
PERSIST AND WE NEED TO ENSURE
02:06:03.122 --> 02:06:03.789
THAT.
02:06:03.856 --> 02:06:05.457
OF THESE VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS
02:06:05.524 --> 02:06:07.026
DO YOU HAVE --
02:06:07.092 --> 02:06:08.193
PROFESSIONALS IN THEIR LIVES
02:06:08.260 --> 02:06:09.295
WILL LOOK OUT FOR THEIR BEST
02:06:09.361 --> 02:06:11.163
INTERESTS THAT WE WOULD URGE THE
02:06:11.230 --> 02:06:11.931
COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT THE BILL
02:06:11.997 --> 02:06:13.966
VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH
02:06:14.033 --> 02:06:14.566
OTHERS IN SUPPORT PLEASE COME
02:06:14.633 --> 02:06:17.903
FORWARD.
02:06:17.970 --> 02:06:18.237
THE CHILD --
02:06:18.304 --> 02:06:19.672
AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION
02:06:19.738 --> 02:06:21.840
OF CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT THANK
02:06:21.907 --> 02:06:23.075
YOU VERY MUCH WITH CHILD AND YET
02:06:23.142 --> 02:06:24.209
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
02:06:24.276 --> 02:06:31.917
IS THERE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION.
02:06:31.984 --> 02:06:33.686
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN THAT'S
02:06:33.752 --> 02:06:35.955
ONLY IF THEY CAN DO THAT.
02:06:36.021 --> 02:06:37.122
ARE NOT IN OPPOSITION BUT
02:06:37.189 --> 02:06:38.223
DEVELOPING A POSITION IF THAT'S
02:06:38.290 --> 02:06:40.092
OKAY SENATOR AND A COMMITTEE
02:06:40.159 --> 02:06:41.894
MEMBERS AND MEMBER JERRY DOES
02:06:41.961 --> 02:06:43.162
MIDDLE PATH OF THE PROFESSIONAL
02:06:43.228 --> 02:06:44.129
FULLY SHERRY ASSOCIATION OF
02:06:44.196 --> 02:06:46.165
CALIFORNIA P. FACT. ONE OF THE
02:06:46.231 --> 02:06:47.199
CO SPONSORS OF THE ORIGINAL ACT
02:06:47.266 --> 02:06:49.435
A DECADE AGO A TO PROTECT OF THE
02:06:49.501 --> 02:06:50.836
CONSUMERS BUY LICENSURE
02:06:50.903 --> 02:06:52.204
FIDUCIARY SINCE STANDARDS OF
02:06:52.271 --> 02:06:53.939
TRAINING IN OUR ASSOCIATION HAS
02:06:54.006 --> 02:06:55.741
EMBARKED UPON A DIVERSITY.
02:06:55.808 --> 02:06:57.710
OF MISSION AS AN ASSOCIATION FOR
02:06:57.776 --> 02:06:59.111
ITS MEMBERS AND TAKING CARE OF
02:06:59.178 --> 02:07:01.847
THE THE SENSITIVE AFFORDABLE
02:07:01.914 --> 02:07:02.448
POPULATIONS.
02:07:02.514 --> 02:07:04.049
WE JUST SAW THE BILL LAST WEEK
02:07:04.116 --> 02:07:04.917
BECAUSE IT WAS PUT INTO PRINT WE
02:07:04.984 --> 02:07:06.018
HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE AUTHOR
02:07:06.085 --> 02:07:07.720
OF THE PROPONENTS WE HAVE SOME
02:07:07.786 --> 02:07:09.254
THOUGHTS ON TAKING CARE OT ONLY
02:07:09.321 --> 02:07:10.622
TO THIS COMMUNITY BUT ALL UNDER
02:07:10.689 --> 02:07:11.957
REPRESENTED IN MARGINALIZED
02:07:12.024 --> 02:07:12.992
COMMUNITIES.
02:07:13.058 --> 02:07:14.426
IN AN HOUR OF TRAINING BUT PRE
02:07:14.493 --> 02:07:16.562
LICENSURE INSULIN CONCEPT WE
02:07:16.628 --> 02:07:18.163
APPRECIATE THE ENDEAVOR AND
02:07:18.230 --> 02:07:18.831
WORKING HAVE DISCUSSIONS AS THE
02:07:18.897 --> 02:07:21.767
BILL MOVES FOR VERY GOOD THANK
02:07:21.834 --> 02:07:22.901
YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT I USED.
02:07:22.968 --> 02:07:24.470
THEN YOU SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION
02:07:24.536 --> 02:07:26.839
OR MAYBE IN OPPOSITION.
02:07:26.905 --> 02:07:28.140
YOU KNOW ONE BRING IT BACK TO
02:07:28.207 --> 02:07:28.674
THE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS OR
02:07:28.741 --> 02:07:31.310
COMMENTS.
02:07:31.377 --> 02:07:32.878
NOW WE HAVE TO WILL HAVE TO WAIT
02:07:32.945 --> 02:07:33.479
TWO WEEKS ESTABLISH A QUORUM
02:07:33.545 --> 02:07:35.447
THANK YOU WITH THE APPROPRIATE
02:07:35.514 --> 02:07:38.283
TIME THAT WOULD BE IN ORDER.
02:07:38.350 --> 02:07:39.651
SYRIAN WOULD YOU LIKE CLOSE I
02:07:39.718 --> 02:07:41.420
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE WHEN.
02:07:41.487 --> 02:07:43.088
WHEN THE COMMITTEE IS --
02:07:43.155 --> 02:07:44.490
AND QUORUM THANK YOU VERY GOOD
02:07:44.556 --> 02:07:46.325
THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR TAKING
02:07:46.392 --> 02:07:48.327
THE AMENDMENTS THAT THE BILL AS
02:07:48.394 --> 02:07:48.994
WELL OF COURSE IT THAT'S WHEN WE
02:07:49.061 --> 02:07:50.529
ESTABLISH A QUORUM WE WILL TAKE
02:07:50.596 --> 02:07:50.829
THAT MOTION.
02:07:50.896 --> 02:07:53.298
THANK YOU.
02:07:53.365 --> 02:07:55.434
BUT NOT ITEM NUMBER [inaudible]
02:07:55.501 --> 02:07:58.570
TWO ASSEMBLYMEMBER LEVINE.
02:07:58.637 --> 02:08:03.942
AND HOW ARE YOU WELCOME.
02:08:04.009 --> 02:08:06.645
MRS I REMEMBER TO AB FOURTEEN
02:08:06.712 --> 02:08:11.583
THIRTY SIX ASSEMBLY MEMBER LIVE.
02:08:11.650 --> 02:08:13.252
AND GOOD MORNING THINK YOU'RE
02:08:13.318 --> 02:08:14.486
INTERESTED CHARITY NUMBERS
02:08:14.553 --> 02:08:16.822
OUTSTANDING CONSTITUENTS PRETTY
02:08:16.889 --> 02:08:21.026
FANTASTIC IS ANY.
02:08:21.093 --> 02:08:24.163
HE IS MY SON.
02:08:24.229 --> 02:08:25.597
THANK YOU AGAIN I'D LIKE TO
02:08:25.664 --> 02:08:26.432
START BY ACCEPTING THE KITTY
02:08:26.498 --> 02:08:27.066
COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS AND THANK
02:08:27.132 --> 02:08:27.866
THE COMMITTEE FOR WORKING ON
02:08:27.933 --> 02:08:28.367
THIS --
02:08:28.434 --> 02:08:29.568
LEGISLATION AB FOURTEEN THIRTY
02:08:29.635 --> 02:08:30.235
SIX REQUIRES MARRIAGE AND FAMILY
02:08:30.302 --> 02:08:30.969
THERAPISTS EDUCATIONAL
02:08:31.036 --> 02:08:32.438
PSYCHOLOGISTS CLINICAL SOCIAL
02:08:32.504 --> 02:08:33.739
WORKERS AND PROFESSIONAL
02:08:33.806 --> 02:08:35.507
CLINICAL COUNSELORS TO RECEIVE.
02:08:35.574 --> 02:08:37.042
SUICIDE PREVENTION TRAINING FOR
02:08:37.109 --> 02:08:37.709
ASSESSMENT TREATMENT AND
02:08:37.776 --> 02:08:39.578
MANAGEMENT JUST COUPLE WEEKS AGO
02:08:39.645 --> 02:08:40.879
CDC.
02:08:40.946 --> 02:08:42.581
SHOWED IN A REPORT THAT SUICIDE
02:08:42.648 --> 02:08:43.649
RATES IN CALIFORNIA ARE UP
02:08:43.715 --> 02:08:46.919
FOURTEEN POINT 8% SINCE NINETEEN
02:08:46.985 --> 02:08:47.553
NINETY NINE AND SUICIDE IS THE
02:08:47.619 --> 02:08:48.487
SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH
02:08:48.554 --> 02:08:49.988
FOR PEOPLE.
02:08:50.055 --> 02:08:51.723
TWENTY FOUR AND YOUNGER.
02:08:51.790 --> 02:08:54.259
AND DIED RESEARCH SHOWS THAT
02:08:54.326 --> 02:08:56.361
PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN A MENTAL
02:08:56.428 --> 02:08:57.596
HEALTH PROFESSIONAL NAM HAVE
02:08:57.663 --> 02:08:59.298
TAKEN THEIR LIVES SINCE THEN
02:08:59.364 --> 02:09:00.299
THIS TRAINING WILL HELP THEM.
02:09:00.365 --> 02:09:02.534
PERHAPS IDENTIFY AND TREAT IT
02:09:02.601 --> 02:09:03.702
LAST YEAR THE GOVERNOR BROWN
02:09:03.769 --> 02:09:04.736
SIGNED MY BILL THAT HAS THIS
02:09:04.803 --> 02:09:06.405
REQUIREMENT FOR PSYCHOLOGISTS
02:09:06.472 --> 02:09:07.639
WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THIS BILL
02:09:07.706 --> 02:09:07.906
AS WELL.
02:09:07.973 --> 02:09:09.875
VERY GOOD THANK YOU.
02:09:09.942 --> 02:09:13.745
A WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
02:09:13.812 --> 02:09:15.614
SO FOR THE RECORD I'M VICO
02:09:15.681 --> 02:09:16.582
JACQUI AND I'M GONNA LEAVE YOU
02:09:16.648 --> 02:09:18.217
WITH.
02:09:18.283 --> 02:09:19.051
SOME DIFFERENT THINGS BECAUSE I
02:09:19.118 --> 02:09:19.518
WANT AMONG THE RECORD.
02:09:19.585 --> 02:09:24.256
I GUESS THE COMPLEMENT THE CDC'S
02:09:24.323 --> 02:09:26.425
REPORT I RAN A LIST OF DEATHS
02:09:26.492 --> 02:09:28.260
SUICIDE DEATHS IN CALIFORNIA
02:09:28.327 --> 02:09:31.096
SINCE. TWO THOUSAND TO TWO
02:09:31.163 --> 02:09:31.763
THOUSAND AND SIXTEEN WHAT YOU'LL
02:09:31.830 --> 02:09:32.297
SEE.
02:09:32.364 --> 02:09:33.465
IS THAT THAT THE NUMBERS ARE
02:09:33.532 --> 02:09:35.667
RISING --
02:09:35.734 --> 02:09:38.937
INCLUDING WERE UP OVER WORD
02:09:39.004 --> 02:09:39.538
FORTY TWO HUNDRED ALMOST FORTY
02:09:39.605 --> 02:09:41.039
THREE HUNDRED DEATHS.
02:09:41.106 --> 02:09:42.407
I'M LOOKING AT AYE FOR YOUNG
02:09:42.474 --> 02:09:44.309
PEOPLE SEVEN TO EIGHTEEN YEARS
02:09:44.376 --> 02:09:45.144
OLD.
02:09:45.210 --> 02:09:46.311
WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT THE
02:09:46.378 --> 02:09:48.914
AVERAGEOVER THAT SAME PERIOD OF
02:09:48.981 --> 02:09:49.481
TIME IS A HUNDRED TWENTY TWO
02:09:49.548 --> 02:09:51.283
DEATHS?
02:09:51.350 --> 02:09:52.751
THAT THE MOST RECENT YEARS THE
02:09:52.818 --> 02:09:54.319
LAST FOUR OF THEM ALL EXCEED
02:09:54.386 --> 02:09:56.255
THAT NUMBER INCLUDING THE MOST
02:09:56.321 --> 02:10:00.092
RECENT YEAR TWENTY SIXTEEN
02:10:00.159 --> 02:10:00.726
HUNDRED FIFTY NINE YOUNG PEOPLE
02:10:00.792 --> 02:10:01.460
HAVE TAKEN THEIR LIVES IN
02:10:01.527 --> 02:10:02.995
CALIFORNIA.
02:10:03.061 --> 02:10:05.297
ON THIS WORK HAS BEEN BASED ON
02:10:05.364 --> 02:10:06.899
THIS WORK GOES ON NATIONALLY
02:10:06.965 --> 02:10:08.834
IT'S BEEN BASED ON A STUDY THAT
02:10:08.901 --> 02:10:10.869
WAS COMMISSION.
02:10:10.936 --> 02:10:12.704
AND AS A RESULT OF THIS WE HAVE
02:10:12.771 --> 02:10:14.573
AT LEAST FIVE OTHER STATES HAVE
02:10:14.640 --> 02:10:16.675
PASSED LEGISLATION AROUND HAVING
02:10:16.742 --> 02:10:17.843
MANDATORY TRAINING FOR
02:10:17.910 --> 02:10:19.144
CLINICIANS.
02:10:19.211 --> 02:10:21.580
IN REGARDS TO SUICIDE ASSESSMENT
02:10:21.647 --> 02:10:23.549
AND INTERVENTION.
02:10:23.615 --> 02:10:24.850
AND FOR MOST PEOPLE WHO MIGHT
02:10:24.917 --> 02:10:26.351
QUESTION WHETHER THERE'S
02:10:26.418 --> 02:10:29.054
TRAINING FROM A LEAVE A LIST.
02:10:29.121 --> 02:10:29.988
A POSSIBLE TRAININGS AND I WILL
02:10:30.055 --> 02:10:31.690
TELL YOU THIS AYE PROPHESIZED
02:10:31.757 --> 02:10:32.558
AYE GAS.
02:10:32.624 --> 02:10:33.992
LAST YEAR THAT THERE WOULD BE
02:10:34.059 --> 02:10:35.761
MORE AND MAYBE EVEN BETTER
02:10:35.827 --> 02:10:36.361
TRAININGS WE KNOW THAT
02:10:36.428 --> 02:10:36.662
[inaudible]
02:10:36.728 --> 02:10:38.330
IN.
02:10:38.397 --> 02:10:40.232
AND THE SENATORS DISTRICT
02:10:40.299 --> 02:10:41.066
POWELTON UNIVERSITY HAS
02:10:41.133 --> 02:10:43.068
DEVELOPED A TRAINING.
02:10:43.135 --> 02:10:44.236
I'M SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE
02:10:44.303 --> 02:10:45.504
YEAR AHEAD FOUR DIFFERENT
02:10:45.571 --> 02:10:47.406
ENTITIES CONTACT ME TALKING
02:10:47.472 --> 02:10:49.374
ABOUT TRAINING. ONE THAT WANTS
02:10:49.441 --> 02:10:51.276
TO PUT A WHOLE PROGRAM TOGETHER
02:10:51.343 --> 02:10:52.444
AT THEIR UNIVERSITY.
02:10:52.511 --> 02:10:54.279
SEWED SHOWS THE VALUE OF THIS
02:10:54.346 --> 02:10:56.949
WORK BESIDES THE SUPPORT THAT
02:10:57.015 --> 02:10:59.284
YOU HAVE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
02:10:59.351 --> 02:11:00.118
WE GOT A LETTER FROM DIDI HIRSCH
02:11:00.185 --> 02:11:03.088
THE MAIN.
02:11:03.155 --> 02:11:05.057
CRISIS AND SUICIDE CALL CENTER
02:11:05.123 --> 02:11:06.425
IN CALIFORNIA.
02:11:06.491 --> 02:11:07.292
IN SUPPORT.
02:11:07.359 --> 02:11:10.596
AND FROM THE PASAY FROM QUE
02:11:10.662 --> 02:11:12.097
WARREN WHO'S ONE OF THE CO
02:11:12.164 --> 02:11:15.601
FOUNDERS OF THE A LARGE --
02:11:15.667 --> 02:11:17.569
EVANGELICAL MEGACHURCH
02:11:17.636 --> 02:11:20.472
SADDLEBACK CHURCH.
02:11:20.539 --> 02:11:22.307
SENDING A LETTER SUPPORT.
02:11:22.374 --> 02:11:23.775
SO I PROBABLY AM WITH JUSTICE
02:11:23.842 --> 02:11:25.110
QUICK COMMENT SINCE THE
02:11:25.177 --> 02:11:26.211
BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND I
02:11:26.278 --> 02:11:27.479
ALMOST STARTED THIS WAY I'VE HAD
02:11:27.546 --> 02:11:29.314
AT LEAST.
02:11:29.381 --> 02:11:30.182
IT'S FAMILIES CONTACT ME FALL
02:11:30.249 --> 02:11:32.050
WITH.
02:11:32.117 --> 02:11:33.218
CHILDREN THE THEY ARE YOUNG
02:11:33.285 --> 02:11:35.287
ADULTS THAT HAVE TAKEN THEIR
02:11:35.354 --> 02:11:37.289
LIVES IN RECENT TIMES.
02:11:37.356 --> 02:11:39.591
AND I TOLD THEM FRANKLY WE WOULD
02:11:39.658 --> 02:11:41.593
DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
02:11:41.660 --> 02:11:44.196
THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA
02:11:44.263 --> 02:11:45.597
THERE'S FAR MORE THAN NEEDS TO
02:11:45.664 --> 02:11:48.267
BE DONE SO THIS THIS BILL IS A
02:11:48.333 --> 02:11:49.768
PIECE AN APOSTLE.
02:11:49.835 --> 02:11:50.502
AND AND WE HOPE THAT YOU
02:11:50.569 --> 02:11:52.938
SUPPORTED.
02:11:53.005 --> 02:11:53.472
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER
02:11:53.538 --> 02:11:55.907
JENKINS.
02:11:55.974 --> 02:11:57.409
I HATE THAT THE BEING HERE TODAY.
02:11:57.476 --> 02:11:59.544
PLEASE THE AFTERNOON ARMY
02:11:59.611 --> 02:12:00.078
GENERALS WITH A STEINBERG
02:12:00.145 --> 02:12:00.746
INSTITUTE AND WE ARE PROUD
02:12:00.812 --> 02:12:03.915
SPONSORS OF AB FOURTEEN THIRTY
02:12:03.982 --> 02:12:05.617
NINE AND PROUD TUESDAY A PARTNER
02:12:05.684 --> 02:12:07.019
AGAIN WITH ASSEMBLYMEMBER LEVINE
02:12:07.085 --> 02:12:08.453
TO ENSURE THAT CALIFORNIA'S
02:12:08.520 --> 02:12:10.155
MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS.
02:12:10.222 --> 02:12:11.323
THE FRONTLINE AMITABHA
02:12:11.390 --> 02:12:13.425
PROFESSIONALS RECEIVE BASIC A
02:12:13.492 --> 02:12:14.826
AND AND VERY --
02:12:14.893 --> 02:12:16.228
IMPARTING TRAINING IN --
02:12:16.295 --> 02:12:17.863
SUICIDE RISK ASSESSMENT AND
02:12:17.929 --> 02:12:20.332
AGAIN THANK YOU --
02:12:20.399 --> 02:12:21.800
FOR FOR YOUR SUPPORT BIGGER
02:12:21.867 --> 02:12:22.834
THANK YOU --
02:12:22.901 --> 02:12:24.936
OTHERS HERE IN SUPPORT PLEASE
02:12:25.003 --> 02:12:27.506
COME.
02:12:27.572 --> 02:12:28.073
FOR THE BOARD OF BEHAVIORAL
02:12:28.140 --> 02:12:29.808
SCIENCES OF THE PARTISANS.
02:12:29.875 --> 02:12:35.614
YOU THINK YOU.
02:12:35.681 --> 02:12:36.882
ACCORDING DOWDY THE AMERICAN
02:12:36.948 --> 02:12:38.150
FOUNDATION FOR SUICIDE
02:12:38.216 --> 02:12:39.918
PREVENTION IN SUPPORT AND I'D
02:12:39.985 --> 02:12:41.219
ALSO LIKE TO COMPLIMENT THE
02:12:41.286 --> 02:12:42.821
BORDER BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES AND
02:12:42.888 --> 02:12:43.755
SPECIALLY THEIR EXECUTIVE
02:12:43.822 --> 02:12:45.324
OFFICER --
02:12:45.390 --> 02:12:46.825
FURTHER SUPPORTED THE WORK ON
02:12:46.892 --> 02:12:48.527
THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU
02:12:48.593 --> 02:12:50.729
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
02:12:50.796 --> 02:12:51.897
IS THERE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION
02:12:51.963 --> 02:12:53.899
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
02:12:53.965 --> 02:12:55.033
THE NO ONE BRING IT BACK TO THE
02:12:55.100 --> 02:12:56.201
COMMITTEE [inaudible]
02:12:56.268 --> 02:12:58.804
AND THE A WOULD YOU LIKE TO
02:12:58.870 --> 02:13:00.539
CLOSE ASSEMBLYMEMBER LEVINE WE
02:13:00.605 --> 02:13:02.040
WILL KEEP THE ROLE OF I MEAN WE
02:13:02.107 --> 02:13:02.674
WILL.
02:13:02.741 --> 02:13:03.875
OBVIOUSLY ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT
02:13:03.942 --> 02:13:05.010
THE APPROPRIATE TIME YET I
02:13:05.077 --> 02:13:06.378
REALLY I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT
02:13:06.445 --> 02:13:07.079
ALSO AN ECHO --
02:13:07.145 --> 02:13:08.447
ACCOMPLICE THE BORDER BEHAVIORAL
02:13:08.513 --> 02:13:09.915
HEALTH THIS IS BEEN AN AMAZING
02:13:09.981 --> 02:13:10.849
JOURNEY.
02:13:10.916 --> 02:13:13.585
THAT WE'VE BEEN ON YOU KNOW THIS
02:13:13.652 --> 02:13:15.053
IS -- OF
02:13:15.120 --> 02:13:17.856
MULTIPLE BILL EFFORT I THAT WAS
02:13:17.923 --> 02:13:21.326
IT WAS IT THREE YEARS AGO OR
02:13:21.393 --> 02:13:21.893
TWENTY FOUR TWENTY FOURTEEN
02:13:21.960 --> 02:13:22.594
WHERE WE FIRST MEET OUR OUR
02:13:22.661 --> 02:13:23.962
EFFORT WHERE.
02:13:24.029 --> 02:13:26.131
THE BOARDS AT ACTUALLY OPPOSED
02:13:26.198 --> 02:13:27.966
OUR LEGISLATION IT MADE IT. TO
02:13:28.033 --> 02:13:30.736
THE FINISH FINALLY BE VETOED AND
02:13:30.802 --> 02:13:32.371
DOT NOW DIED THE BOARDS ARE
02:13:32.437 --> 02:13:33.271
FOLLOWING THE GOVERNOR'S
02:13:33.338 --> 02:13:34.473
DIRECTION ABOUT REVIEWING THEIR
02:13:34.539 --> 02:13:36.007
OWN PRACTICES AND I'VE COME BACK
02:13:36.074 --> 02:13:37.409
IN IT'S ACTUALLY.
02:13:37.476 --> 02:13:38.844
COME TO US I WISH I REALLY
02:13:38.910 --> 02:13:40.679
RESPECTED IT TO SAY LET'S GET
02:13:40.746 --> 02:13:41.446
THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE ONE
02:13:41.513 --> 02:13:42.447
MORE TIME.
02:13:42.514 --> 02:13:43.648
AND I I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT
02:13:43.715 --> 02:13:44.449
FOR THE BOARDS FOR DOING THAT
02:13:44.516 --> 02:13:46.952
WITH US IN A LOT OF GRATITUDE
02:13:47.018 --> 02:13:48.220
FOR MISTER JENKINS AND I AND THE
02:13:48.286 --> 02:13:49.721
OTHER ADVOCATES WHO HAVE HELPED
02:13:49.788 --> 02:13:51.556
US PUSH THIS ALONG SO THANK YOU
02:13:51.623 --> 02:13:51.957
TO THE COMMITTEE.
02:13:52.023 --> 02:13:54.192
AS WELL FOR YOUR CONTINUED
02:13:54.259 --> 02:13:55.160
SUPPORT FOR THE US OVER THE
02:13:55.227 --> 02:13:55.961
YEARS.
02:13:56.027 --> 02:13:59.898
IN THANK YOU AND AND I WOULD.
02:13:59.965 --> 02:14:00.866
TO CO AUTHOR I'D BE GRATEFUL FOR
02:14:00.932 --> 02:14:02.167
THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I
02:14:02.234 --> 02:14:04.269
APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR CONTINUED
02:14:04.336 --> 02:14:05.470
LEADERSHIP IN THE SUBJECT MATTER
02:14:05.537 --> 02:14:06.938
THE STATISTICS ARE [inaudible]
02:14:07.005 --> 02:14:09.174
DEVASTATING. TO SAY THE LEAST
02:14:09.241 --> 02:14:15.647
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
02:14:15.714 --> 02:14:17.816
I SEE ASSEMBLYMEMBER LOW.
02:14:17.883 --> 02:14:18.984
THE CHAIR OF THE BUSINESS
02:14:19.050 --> 02:14:20.285
IMPROVE THE GREAT BUSINESS AND
02:14:20.352 --> 02:14:21.720
PROFESSIONS CODE OF THE ASSEMBLY
02:14:21.787 --> 02:14:22.654
IS HERE.
02:14:22.721 --> 02:14:24.756
YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF BILLS BILLS
02:14:24.823 --> 02:14:29.728
TODAY IS MISTER CHAIR.
02:14:29.795 --> 02:14:32.297
HOW ARE YOU THIS YEAR GOOD
02:14:32.364 --> 02:14:33.632
ISSUES WELL THANK YOU ASSEMBLY
02:14:33.698 --> 02:14:35.267
MEMBER LOW WE HAVE --
02:14:35.333 --> 02:14:36.735
WE'VE THREE BILLS --
02:14:36.802 --> 02:14:39.504
FOR BILLS AND THE SO WE WILL
02:14:39.571 --> 02:14:40.772
START I GUESS WOULD WOULD
02:14:40.839 --> 02:14:42.474
REGISTER WITH THAT GOING ORDER
02:14:42.541 --> 02:14:44.242
JUST PLEASE IF I TO ASSEMBLY
02:14:44.309 --> 02:14:46.111
BILL SEVENTEEN FIFTY WORKER THAT
02:14:46.178 --> 02:14:46.478
I RIVER DOING.
02:14:46.545 --> 02:14:47.946
VERY GOOD THANK YOU PERFECT --
02:14:48.013 --> 02:14:49.548
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER CHAIR
02:14:49.614 --> 02:14:52.784
AND MEMBERS OF THIS IS WITH OUR
02:14:52.851 --> 02:14:53.852
LAST STATE'S PRESCRIPTION DRUG
02:14:53.919 --> 02:14:55.821
MONEY PROGRAM KNOWN AS HERE'S IN.
02:14:55.887 --> 02:14:57.255
ENSURING THAT WE HAVE INTEREST A
02:14:57.322 --> 02:14:58.657
PRESCRIPTION DATA SHARING IT TO
02:14:58.723 --> 02:15:00.625
ENSURE THAT WE CAN PREVENT AS
02:15:00.692 --> 02:15:02.093
MUCH DOCTOR SHOPPING AS POSSIBLE
02:15:02.160 --> 02:15:02.961
AND WORKING WITH OTHER STATES TO
02:15:03.028 --> 02:15:04.296
GET THE DATA INFORMATION.
02:15:04.362 --> 02:15:06.131
AS NECESSARY SO I RESPECTFULLY
02:15:06.198 --> 02:15:07.499
ASK RIVAL TO HAVE OTHER
02:15:07.566 --> 02:15:10.702
WITNESSES TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
02:15:10.769 --> 02:15:12.170
GOOD THANK YOU.
02:15:12.237 --> 02:15:12.671
TO VERY TIMELY PIECE OF
02:15:12.737 --> 02:15:13.972
LEGISLATION.
02:15:14.039 --> 02:15:15.273
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
02:15:15.340 --> 02:15:16.508
OF MERRYMAKING WITH CALIFORNIA
02:15:16.575 --> 02:15:18.143
DENTAL ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING
02:15:18.210 --> 02:15:20.512
OVER TWENTY SOUTH STE THE TWENTY
02:15:20.579 --> 02:15:21.146
SEVEN THOUSAND ON US ACROSS THE
02:15:21.213 --> 02:15:21.680
STATE.
02:15:21.746 --> 02:15:22.781
AYE WE'RE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE
02:15:22.848 --> 02:15:24.850
BILL SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE MANY
02:15:24.916 --> 02:15:25.717
PRESCRIBERS.
02:15:25.784 --> 02:15:27.752
A NEAR STATE LINES AND WE FEEL
02:15:27.819 --> 02:15:28.787
THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD
02:15:28.854 --> 02:15:30.388
BE PROVIDED WITHIN THIS BILL
02:15:30.455 --> 02:15:31.022
WOULD REALLY HELP OUR
02:15:31.089 --> 02:15:34.192
PRESCRIBERS BE MORE EDUCATED --
02:15:34.259 --> 02:15:36.895
IN TERMS OF CURBING SUCH.
02:15:36.962 --> 02:15:37.762
I AM SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE
02:15:37.829 --> 02:15:39.197
FULL MEDICAL FILE TO MAKE SURE
02:15:39.264 --> 02:15:40.232
THAT WHATEVER THEY DO TO
02:15:40.298 --> 02:15:43.034
PRESCRIBE TO THEIR PATIENTS.
02:15:43.101 --> 02:15:44.703
IS APPROPRIATE FOR THEM SO THANK
02:15:44.769 --> 02:15:46.238
YOU INTRUSION I HADN'T THOUGHT
02:15:46.304 --> 02:15:47.105
ABOUT THAT RIGHT ON THE BORDER
02:15:47.172 --> 02:15:49.107
IT WOULD BE YOU COULD DO A LOT
02:15:49.174 --> 02:15:50.742
OF DOCTOR SHOPPING AND THAT TOO
02:15:50.809 --> 02:15:51.910
MUCH DIFFICULT.
02:15:51.977 --> 02:15:53.044
THANK YOU FOR THE TESTIMONY.
02:15:53.111 --> 02:15:54.813
BY JOHN LEVEL ON BEHALF OF THE
02:15:54.880 --> 02:15:56.515
ASSOCIATION OF DEPUTY DISTRICT
02:15:56.581 --> 02:15:58.984
ATTORNEYS CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
02:15:59.050 --> 02:16:00.418
CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
02:16:00.485 --> 02:16:01.553
CALIFORNIA COLLEGE AND
02:16:01.620 --> 02:16:02.721
UNIVERSITY POLICE CHIEFS
02:16:02.787 --> 02:16:04.956
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA NARCOTICS
02:16:05.023 --> 02:16:07.158
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION IN THE LA
02:16:07.225 --> 02:16:08.460
COUNTY PROFESSIONAL PEACE
02:16:08.527 --> 02:16:09.861
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
02:16:09.928 --> 02:16:11.897
WE ARE ALL STRONGLY IN SUPPORT
02:16:11.963 --> 02:16:13.632
OF THIS BILL THIS IS.
02:16:13.698 --> 02:16:15.634
VERY TIMELY AND THE BORDER
02:16:15.700 --> 02:16:17.602
COMMENTS THAT THE CHAIR JUST
02:16:17.669 --> 02:16:18.904
MADE OPPORTUNITY HERE.
02:16:18.970 --> 02:16:21.072
BOMBS THIS IS EXTREMELY
02:16:21.139 --> 02:16:22.474
IMPORTANT IN DEALING WITH.
02:16:22.541 --> 02:16:24.175
AN EPIDEMIC THAT HAS GOTTEN OUT
02:16:24.242 --> 02:16:26.444
OF CONTROL.
02:16:26.511 --> 02:16:28.380
DAVID THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHICH
02:16:28.446 --> 02:16:28.980
LEVEL YES OTHERS IN SUPPORT
02:16:29.047 --> 02:16:30.181
PLEASE ADAMS CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
02:16:30.248 --> 02:16:31.316
MIKE MADDUX ACCOUNTS OF A
02:16:31.383 --> 02:16:33.051
CONSUMER WATCHDOG AND ALSO HERE
02:16:33.118 --> 02:16:34.753
ON BEHALF OF OUR COLLEAGUES AT
02:16:34.819 --> 02:16:35.854
THE CONSUMER ATTORNEYS A
02:16:35.921 --> 02:16:37.422
CALIFORNIA.
02:16:37.489 --> 02:16:38.023
STRONGLY SUPPORTING THIS BILL
02:16:38.089 --> 02:16:40.225
THANK YOU.
02:16:40.292 --> 02:16:41.159
THANK YOU CHAIRMAN OF THE
02:16:41.226 --> 02:16:42.427
COMMITTEE DAVID GONZALEZ ON
02:16:42.494 --> 02:16:43.628
BEHALF OF AMERICA'S POSITION
02:16:43.695 --> 02:16:44.296
GROUPS HAPPY TO BE HERE IN
02:16:44.362 --> 02:16:47.265
SUPPORT A THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:16:47.332 --> 02:16:48.466
CARE MEMBERS MAUREEN HIGGINS ON
02:16:48.533 --> 02:16:49.467
BEHALF OF VIACOM SUPPORT THANK
02:16:49.534 --> 02:16:52.070
YOU VERY MUCH.
02:16:52.137 --> 02:16:52.737
FOR GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER
02:16:52.804 --> 02:16:53.505
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS BUT THE ARMS
02:16:53.572 --> 02:16:54.539
FROM ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY
02:16:54.606 --> 02:16:56.241
HEALTH EXECUTIVES ASSOCIATION
02:16:56.308 --> 02:16:57.208
REPRESENTING LOCAL HEALTH
02:16:57.275 --> 02:16:57.809
DEPARTMENTS AND SUPPORT THANK
02:16:57.876 --> 02:17:00.612
YOU.
02:17:00.679 --> 02:17:01.212
REVENUE MISTER CHAIRMAN OF
02:17:01.279 --> 02:17:01.947
COURSE ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE
02:17:02.013 --> 02:17:03.582
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
02:17:03.648 --> 02:17:06.084
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT THANK YOU.
02:17:06.151 --> 02:17:07.586
GOOD MORNING.
02:17:07.652 --> 02:17:08.987
SORRY GOOD AFTERNOON MARRIED
02:17:09.054 --> 02:17:09.588
THERE THE COUNTY BEHAVIORAL
02:17:09.654 --> 02:17:10.822
HEALTH DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION IN
02:17:10.889 --> 02:17:12.991
SUPPORT VERY GOOD THANK YOU.
02:17:13.058 --> 02:17:14.092
THE APPARENT ON BEHALF OF
02:17:14.159 --> 02:17:15.193
CALIFORNIA LIFE SCIENCES
02:17:15.260 --> 02:17:16.394
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
02:17:16.461 --> 02:17:18.797
VERY MUCH.
02:17:18.863 --> 02:17:19.965
TIFFANY MATTHEWS I'M HAVE THE
02:17:20.031 --> 02:17:21.299
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
02:17:21.366 --> 02:17:22.734
ASSOCIATION EXPORT.
02:17:22.801 --> 02:17:25.637
WELCOME TO A FEW.
02:17:25.704 --> 02:17:26.438
BRYCE DOT GRAHAM HAPPILY
02:17:26.504 --> 02:17:27.405
CALIFORNIA SOCIETY OF
02:17:27.472 --> 02:17:28.840
ANESTHESIOLOGISTS AND SUPPORT
02:17:28.907 --> 02:17:31.042
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:17:31.109 --> 02:17:32.477
VIRGINIA HURLED ON BEHALF OF THE
02:17:32.544 --> 02:17:34.412
CALIFORNIA STATE BOARD OF
02:17:34.479 --> 02:17:35.280
PHARMACY ALSO IN SUPPORT.
02:17:35.347 --> 02:17:37.315
THANK YOU.
02:17:37.382 --> 02:17:38.316
FOR JENNIFER SUMMERS OF THE
02:17:38.383 --> 02:17:39.050
MEDICAL BOARD CALIFORNIANS
02:17:39.117 --> 02:17:39.784
SUPPORT.
02:17:39.851 --> 02:17:42.454
THANK YOU OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
02:17:42.520 --> 02:17:44.055
GOD I WISH I COULD HAVE THAT
02:17:44.122 --> 02:17:45.590
MUCH SUPPORT FOR MY BILLS.
02:17:45.657 --> 02:17:48.360
THIS NEVER HAPPENS THAT WAY --
02:17:48.426 --> 02:17:48.893
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
02:17:48.960 --> 02:17:54.566
OPPOSITION PLEASE COME FORWARD
02:17:54.633 --> 02:17:54.866
[inaudible]
02:17:54.933 --> 02:18:00.338
HAVE YOU.
02:18:00.405 --> 02:18:07.312
PLEASE MAKE YOURSELF COMFORTABLE.
02:18:07.379 --> 02:18:08.279
BECCA CAME OUT OR ON BEHALF OF
02:18:08.346 --> 02:18:10.081
THE ACLU OF CALIFORNIA WE HAVE
02:18:10.148 --> 02:18:11.483
AN OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
02:18:11.549 --> 02:18:13.151
POSITION TO ADDRESS.
02:18:13.218 --> 02:18:15.387
I'M SERIOUS PRIVACY CONCERNS
02:18:15.453 --> 02:18:17.889
WITH THE BELL AND MANY PATIENTS
02:18:17.956 --> 02:18:18.657
WOULD ASSUME THAT THEIR
02:18:18.723 --> 02:18:20.592
PRESCRIPTION RECORDS ARE MEDICAL
02:18:20.659 --> 02:18:21.660
INFORMATION.
02:18:21.726 --> 02:18:23.228
THAT WOULD BE KEPT PRIVATE AND
02:18:23.295 --> 02:18:25.497
CONFIDENTIAL UNFORTUNATELY
02:18:25.563 --> 02:18:28.333
CURIOS DATABASE IS NOT COVERED
02:18:28.400 --> 02:18:30.368
BY CMA OR HAVE BASS AND ARE
02:18:30.435 --> 02:18:32.203
THEREFORE NOT SUBJECT TO MEDICAL
02:18:32.270 --> 02:18:35.140
PRIVACY REGULATIONS --
02:18:35.206 --> 02:18:37.308
INSULAR SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH
02:18:37.375 --> 02:18:38.810
I'M ALLOWING.
02:18:38.877 --> 02:18:40.111
ESTATE AGENCIES TO HAVE
02:18:40.178 --> 02:18:41.546
UNFETTERED ACCESS WITHOUT A
02:18:41.613 --> 02:18:42.947
WARRANT REQUIREMENT SO WE WOULD
02:18:43.014 --> 02:18:44.549
ENCOURAGE THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER TO
02:18:44.616 --> 02:18:47.452
INCLUDE A WARRANT REQUIREMENT.
02:18:47.519 --> 02:18:49.421
FOR ACCESS WHO CARES ON WE DO
02:18:49.487 --> 02:18:51.956
HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS
02:18:52.023 --> 02:18:54.392
THAT WE COULD CONSIDERIN ADAM
02:18:54.459 --> 02:18:56.995
INSTEAD OF THAT IF THE ASSEMBLY
02:18:57.062 --> 02:18:59.330
MEMBER I AM AS A JACKSON I AM
02:18:59.397 --> 02:18:59.798
ONE WOULD BE.
02:18:59.864 --> 02:19:04.102
RECOGNIZING THAT THE PRIMARY
02:19:04.169 --> 02:19:04.402
NEED -- FOR
02:19:04.469 --> 02:19:08.807
SHARING TEARS CAN IDENTIFY
02:19:08.873 --> 02:19:10.542
PATIENTS WHO ARE DOCTOR SHOPPING
02:19:10.608 --> 02:19:12.077
LIMITING THE BELT SUGGEST
02:19:12.143 --> 02:19:14.579
ALLOWING OUT OF STATE DOCTORS TO
02:19:14.646 --> 02:19:15.880
ACCESS CARE IS INFORMATION.
02:19:15.947 --> 02:19:17.682
RATHER THAN OUT OF STATE MON
02:19:17.749 --> 02:19:19.918
FORSMAN AND OTHER GOVERNMENT
02:19:19.984 --> 02:19:21.453
ENTITIES --
02:19:21.519 --> 02:19:24.189
ADDITIONALLY WE WOULD CONSIDER
02:19:24.255 --> 02:19:25.623
AND POTENTIALLY REMOVING
02:19:25.690 --> 02:19:28.827
OPPOSITION A IF I AM.
02:19:28.893 --> 02:19:31.896
THE BILL WAS AMENDED IT SO THAT.
02:19:31.963 --> 02:19:33.598
I LAW ENFORCEMENT COULD ONLY
02:19:33.665 --> 02:19:36.000
RECEIVE ANONYMIZED INFORMATION
02:19:36.067 --> 02:19:38.303
OF PATIENTS WITHOUT A WARRANT
02:19:38.369 --> 02:19:39.237
AND TO GET FULL PATIENT NAMES
02:19:39.304 --> 02:19:39.771
WITH A WARRANT [inaudible]
02:19:39.838 --> 02:19:41.873
I'M.
02:19:41.940 --> 02:19:42.741
UNDERSTANDING OF CURRENT
02:19:42.807 --> 02:19:44.776
PRACTICE IS THAT.
02:19:44.843 --> 02:19:47.378
CURRENTLY THE DOJ REQUIRES A
02:19:47.445 --> 02:19:48.980
WARRANT FOR MY UNFORTUNATE
02:19:49.047 --> 02:19:51.649
SEEKING PATIENT RECORDS BUT NOT
02:19:51.716 --> 02:19:53.184
FOR PROVIDER RECORDS.
02:19:53.251 --> 02:19:54.819
BUT PROVIDER RECORDS ALSO
02:19:54.886 --> 02:19:56.454
INCLUDE ALL OF THE PRESCRIPTION
02:19:56.521 --> 02:19:58.923
INFORMATION FROM MY PROVIDER FOR
02:19:58.990 --> 02:20:00.091
EACH PATIENT INCLUDING PATIENT
02:20:00.158 --> 02:20:01.760
NAMES.
02:20:01.826 --> 02:20:02.360
I'M OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
02:20:02.427 --> 02:20:04.395
THERE'S CURRENTLY ANALYTICAL
02:20:04.462 --> 02:20:06.531
SOFTWARE AVAILABLE THAT WILL
02:20:06.598 --> 02:20:08.800
CONNECT PATIENTS SO THAT JATO
02:20:08.867 --> 02:20:10.735
CAN BE IDENTIFIED AS THE SAME AS
02:20:10.802 --> 02:20:13.271
JANE DOE. FR EXAMPLE AND SO
02:20:13.338 --> 02:20:15.006
ANONYMIZING THE PATIENT NAMES
02:20:15.073 --> 02:20:16.307
WOULD NOT DIMINISH LAW
02:20:16.374 --> 02:20:18.576
ENFORCEMENT ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE
02:20:18.643 --> 02:20:19.577
THAT IT IS THE SAME PATIENT
02:20:19.644 --> 02:20:22.147
RECEIVING MANY PRESCRIPTIONS.
02:20:22.213 --> 02:20:22.714
AND THE REASON THAT THIS
02:20:22.781 --> 02:20:24.349
INFORMATION IS SO IMPORTANT IS
02:20:24.415 --> 02:20:25.950
THAT THE INFORMATION CONTAINED
02:20:26.017 --> 02:20:27.719
IN CARRIERS IF HIGHLY.
02:20:27.786 --> 02:20:29.687
HIGHLY ICONS AT PRIVATE
02:20:29.754 --> 02:20:31.156
INFORMATION AND CAN REVEAL A LOT
02:20:31.222 --> 02:20:34.359
ABOUT A PERSON. FOR EXAMPLE I'M
02:20:34.425 --> 02:20:36.561
A LOT OF AT A TESTOSTERONE COULD
02:20:36.628 --> 02:20:39.097
IS A IS INCLUDED IN THE SCHEDULE
02:20:39.164 --> 02:20:41.065
OUT DRUGS OF DRUGS THAT ARE IN
02:20:41.132 --> 02:20:41.666
KERRY'S.
02:20:41.733 --> 02:20:42.634
ARM CAN OUT SOMEONE IS
02:20:42.700 --> 02:20:44.669
TRANSGENDER HIV AIDS MEDICATION
02:20:44.736 --> 02:20:46.805
IS ALSO INCLUDED IN VALUE
02:20:46.871 --> 02:20:50.008
MEDICAID MEDICATION --
02:20:50.074 --> 02:20:54.145
SO JUST THE FACT OF HI.
02:20:54.212 --> 02:20:55.547
OFTENTIMES WHAT THE POTENTIAL
02:20:55.613 --> 02:20:58.650
AND DIAGNOSIS IS I'M REVEALING
02:20:58.716 --> 02:21:00.385
VERY VERY SENSITIVE INFORMATION
02:21:00.451 --> 02:21:02.587
ABOUT CALIFORNIANS THAT THEY
02:21:02.654 --> 02:21:03.888
WOULD ASSUME IS PRIVATE.
02:21:03.955 --> 02:21:06.524
BUT UNDER CARES UNFORTUNATELY IS
02:21:06.591 --> 02:21:08.459
NOT COVERED UNDER OUR MEDICAL
02:21:08.526 --> 02:21:09.961
PRIVACY LISTS THAT WE
02:21:10.028 --> 02:21:11.496
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR SOME
02:21:11.563 --> 02:21:12.630
AMENDMENTS BUT UNTIL THEN REMAIN
02:21:12.697 --> 02:21:14.165
OPPOSED UNTIL MONDAY THANK YOU
02:21:14.232 --> 02:21:15.800
VERY MUCH.
02:21:15.867 --> 02:21:18.102
GOOD AFTERNOON TO GET AFTERNOON
02:21:18.169 --> 02:21:18.736
HAVE MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS MAKE
02:21:18.803 --> 02:21:19.671
IT ALRIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE
02:21:19.737 --> 02:21:21.739
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION.
02:21:21.806 --> 02:21:23.041
ALSO POSED WAS AMENDED FOR THE
02:21:23.107 --> 02:21:24.976
SAME PRIVACY CONCERNS ITEM THE
02:21:25.043 --> 02:21:26.744
MICHAELI FROM THE ACLU STATED WE
02:21:26.811 --> 02:21:28.279
DO BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A
02:21:28.346 --> 02:21:30.415
GREAT TOOL FOR PROVIDERS TO USE
02:21:30.481 --> 02:21:32.217
TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY.
02:21:32.283 --> 02:21:34.285
OUT WHAT THEIR PATIENTS MAY BE
02:21:34.352 --> 02:21:35.520
RECEIVING I'VE FROM DIRECTLY
02:21:35.587 --> 02:21:37.222
ACROSS STATE LINES ESPECIALLY IN
02:21:37.288 --> 02:21:38.690
THOSE ADAM BORDER CITIES ARE
02:21:38.756 --> 02:21:42.060
AREAS WHERE PATIENTS ARE
02:21:42.126 --> 02:21:43.561
FREQUENTLY MAKING TRIPS ACROSS.
02:21:43.628 --> 02:21:44.596
OUT WE THINK THAT IT COULD BE
02:21:44.662 --> 02:21:47.131
INCREDIBLY HELPFL IF GIVEN THE
02:21:47.198 --> 02:21:48.132
SAME PRIVACY.
02:21:48.199 --> 02:21:49.367
THAT DID SOME OF THE OTHER
02:21:49.434 --> 02:21:50.969
STATES ALSO HAVE ON THEIR
02:21:51.035 --> 02:21:53.037
RECORDS AS ANYBODY WHO ACCESSES
02:21:53.104 --> 02:21:54.939
CALIFORNIA PATIENT RECORDS.
02:21:55.006 --> 02:21:56.541
FROM ANOTHER STATE OR THROUGH
02:21:56.608 --> 02:21:57.108
THE CURIOUS DATABASE
02:21:57.175 --> 02:21:57.408
[inaudible]
02:21:57.475 --> 02:22:00.545
AT THE OTHER STATES WOULD HAVE
02:22:00.612 --> 02:22:01.379
TO APPLY BY CALIFORNIA LAWS
02:22:01.446 --> 02:22:03.915
WHICH AS WE'VE HEARD ARE REALLY.
02:22:03.982 --> 02:22:07.485
LACKS I AM WHEREAS ANYBODY FROM
02:22:07.552 --> 02:22:09.020
CALIFORNIA SEEKING CURES DATA
02:22:09.087 --> 02:22:10.989
FROM THE OTHER STATES WOULD BE
02:22:11.055 --> 02:22:12.056
HAVE TO APPLY BY THEIR STE MORE
02:22:12.123 --> 02:22:13.224
STRINGENT LAWS.
02:22:13.291 --> 02:22:14.525
THAT WE'VE JUST LIKE CALIFORNIA
02:22:14.592 --> 02:22:15.660
TO BE ON PAR WITH THAT BUT
02:22:15.727 --> 02:22:16.961
OTHERWISE THINK THAT.
02:22:17.028 --> 02:22:17.996
IT COULD BE REALLY HELPFUL AS
02:22:18.062 --> 02:22:19.297
LONG AS WE PROTECT PATIENT
02:22:19.364 --> 02:22:20.498
INFORMATION.
02:22:20.565 --> 02:22:23.134
AND SO WITH THAT WE ARE ALSO
02:22:23.201 --> 02:22:24.969
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE LUIS AMENDED.
02:22:25.036 --> 02:22:25.937
GOOD THANK YOU OTHERS IN
02:22:26.004 --> 02:22:30.742
OPPOSITION PLEASE COME FORWARD.
02:22:30.808 --> 02:22:32.110
RESIDENTS ABOUT THE COMPANY CAN
02:22:32.176 --> 02:22:32.977
MEET THEM WE POSITIONS WE ARE
02:22:33.044 --> 02:22:34.379
ALSO OPPOSE LESS AMENDED FOR THE
02:22:34.445 --> 02:22:35.013
REASONS PREVIOUSLY STATED THANK
02:22:35.079 --> 02:22:38.950
YOU.
02:22:39.017 --> 02:22:40.518
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
02:22:40.585 --> 02:22:42.086
DANIELLE CANDLE KAISER ON BEHALF
02:22:42.153 --> 02:22:43.454
OF THE ELECTRONIC FRONTIER
02:22:43.521 --> 02:22:45.056
FOUNDATION WE WOULD ALIGN OUR
02:22:45.123 --> 02:22:47.358
COMMENTS WITH THE ACLU CMA AS
02:22:47.425 --> 02:22:48.726
WELL OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED THANK
02:22:48.793 --> 02:22:49.961
YOU VERY MUCH.
02:22:50.028 --> 02:22:52.597
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
02:22:52.664 --> 02:22:54.465
YOU KNOW ONE GREEN BACK TO THE
02:22:54.532 --> 02:22:55.266
COMMITTEE IN THE COMMENTS OR
02:22:55.333 --> 02:22:57.669
ANSWERS YES.
02:22:57.735 --> 02:22:59.203
SENATOR OKAY.
02:22:59.270 --> 02:23:01.105
LA SO I SIMILAR --
02:23:01.172 --> 02:23:02.674
CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO
02:23:02.740 --> 02:23:04.242
TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE HELP
02:23:04.309 --> 02:23:06.311
PEOPLE LIVE ACROSS THE BORDER
02:23:06.377 --> 02:23:08.446
HAVE WE GET AFFIRMATION BUT YOU
02:23:08.513 --> 02:23:08.980
KNOW WE'VE HEARD FROM THE
02:23:09.047 --> 02:23:09.614
OPPOSITION ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT
02:23:09.681 --> 02:23:11.516
PRIVACY --
02:23:11.582 --> 02:23:13.117
WERE MAKING THE DATA MORE
02:23:13.184 --> 02:23:15.320
ACCESSIBLE TO MORE PEOPLE --
02:23:15.386 --> 02:23:18.089
SO IS A CHALLENGE CAN YOU DRIVE
02:23:18.156 --> 02:23:20.558
HE PLEASE ADDRESS THE UP PRIVACY
02:23:20.625 --> 02:23:21.159
ISSUES IN TERMS HOW TO ENSURE
02:23:21.225 --> 02:23:22.060
THAT.
02:23:22.126 --> 02:23:24.362
PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA.
02:23:24.429 --> 02:23:25.129
NOW THAT YOU MAKE LET'S SAY ALSO
02:23:25.196 --> 02:23:26.898
IN NEVADA.
02:23:26.965 --> 02:23:28.366
START LOOKING STUFF UP BECAUSE
02:23:28.433 --> 02:23:29.534
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A CALIFORNIA
02:23:29.600 --> 02:23:30.335
BASED ON OTHER STATE --
02:23:30.401 --> 02:23:32.837
SO -- HOW DO
02:23:32.904 --> 02:23:34.439
WE ENSURE WE PROTECT THE PRIVACY
02:23:34.505 --> 02:23:36.507
OF PATIENTS IN CALIFORNIA?
02:23:36.574 --> 02:23:39.277
THE BILL SURE AS AS YOU HEARD --
02:23:39.344 --> 02:23:40.778
THAT THERE FOR SOME OF THE
02:23:40.845 --> 02:23:42.547
EXAMPLES GIVEN AS CHAIR OF THE
02:23:42.613 --> 02:23:43.214
OF THAT HE LIKES THAT CAUCUS
02:23:43.281 --> 02:23:45.416
WOULD BY NO MEANS I HAVE BEEN
02:23:45.483 --> 02:23:46.718
TEN NOR THE DESIRE TO HAVE SUCH
02:23:46.784 --> 02:23:47.618
INFORMATION.
02:23:47.685 --> 02:23:48.886
HELPING PUT OUT THERE AT THE
02:23:48.953 --> 02:23:50.321
SAME TIME WE ALSO THIS BILL
02:23:50.388 --> 02:23:51.789
REQUIRES.
02:23:51.856 --> 02:23:52.924
OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WITH
02:23:52.991 --> 02:23:54.192
THESE OTHER STATES TO COMPLY
02:23:54.258 --> 02:23:55.927
WITH THE SAME TYPE OF PRIVACY
02:23:55.994 --> 02:23:56.394
LAWS.
02:23:56.461 --> 02:23:58.029
OF THROUGH THE STATE OF
02:23:58.096 --> 02:24:00.565
CALIFORNIA SO A WITH THOSE
02:24:00.631 --> 02:24:01.065
PROTECTIONS IN PLACE I'M
02:24:01.132 --> 02:24:04.135
CONFIDENT --
02:24:04.202 --> 02:24:05.703
PRIVACY CONCERNS AT PLACE --
02:24:05.770 --> 02:24:07.105
AS YOU MAY KNOW THIS IS ALSO
02:24:07.171 --> 02:24:08.139
HEADED TO SEND A PUBLIC SAFETY
02:24:08.206 --> 02:24:09.707
COMMITTEE AND HAPPY TO HAVE
02:24:09.774 --> 02:24:10.908
ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS THERE
02:24:10.975 --> 02:24:13.011
BUT I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT IN
02:24:13.077 --> 02:24:15.346
TERMS OF THE ADHERENCE TO THE
02:24:15.413 --> 02:24:17.315
SAME TYPE OF PRIVACY REGULATIONS
02:24:17.382 --> 02:24:18.483
AND LAWS FOR THE STATE OF
02:24:18.549 --> 02:24:19.851
CALIFORNIA THAT THE OTHER STATES
02:24:19.917 --> 02:24:23.421
WOULD ALSO HAVE. TO BUY BY.
02:24:23.488 --> 02:24:24.822
SO JUST TO CLARIFY.
02:24:24.889 --> 02:24:26.824
UNDER DISPEL ANY AGREEMENT WE
02:24:26.891 --> 02:24:28.860
HAVE WITH AND OTHER STATE
02:24:28.926 --> 02:24:30.561
REQUIRE THAT.
02:24:30.628 --> 02:24:32.497
THAT STAGE ANY PERSONNEL THAT
02:24:32.563 --> 02:24:34.065
STATE TO ACCESS IS NOW THIS I
02:24:34.132 --> 02:24:35.433
GUESS JOINT DATABASE
02:24:35.500 --> 02:24:35.733
[inaudible]
02:24:35.800 --> 02:24:37.301
A POTENTIALLY.
02:24:37.368 --> 02:24:38.669
WOULD ACTUALLY --
02:24:38.736 --> 02:24:39.937
HAVE TO ADHERE TO CALIFORNIA LAW
02:24:40.004 --> 02:24:43.474
AND ALSO BE SUBJECT TO PENALTIES
02:24:43.541 --> 02:24:44.809
IF THEY VIOLATE THOSE LAWS
02:24:44.876 --> 02:24:45.109
[inaudible]
02:24:45.176 --> 02:24:50.515
YES.
02:24:50.581 --> 02:24:51.416
OKAY VERY GOOD THANK YOU OTHER
02:24:51.482 --> 02:24:53.484
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
02:24:53.551 --> 02:24:55.586
YOU SEEM TO BE A HESITATION.
02:24:55.653 --> 02:24:56.921
AM I M. BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS
02:24:56.988 --> 02:24:58.289
FABULOUS BUT CALIFORNIA'S
02:24:58.356 --> 02:25:00.291
MEDICAL PRIVACY LAWS DON'T APPLY
02:25:00.358 --> 02:25:02.060
TO CURES AND THEREFORE THEY
02:25:02.126 --> 02:25:03.961
STILL WOULD NOT APPLY TO THESE
02:25:04.028 --> 02:25:05.430
OTHER STATES ACCESSING CARES
02:25:05.496 --> 02:25:06.764
INFORMATION THROUGH THESE.
02:25:06.831 --> 02:25:08.733
SO IF ASSEMBLY MEMBER WAS OPEN
02:25:08.800 --> 02:25:10.768
TO AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD APPLY
02:25:10.835 --> 02:25:13.905
CMI A TWO CURATORS THAT WOULD BE
02:25:13.971 --> 02:25:15.306
FANTASTIC ABOUT --
02:25:15.373 --> 02:25:17.175
AND NOT WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF
02:25:17.241 --> 02:25:18.476
OUR CONCERN BUT UNFORTUNATELY
02:25:18.543 --> 02:25:21.512
CMA DOES NOT APPLY TO CARES.
02:25:21.579 --> 02:25:26.484
WE THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION.
02:25:26.551 --> 02:25:27.385
OKAY CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE
02:25:27.452 --> 02:25:29.353
AT LEAST THAT OTHERS PEOPLE IN
02:25:29.420 --> 02:25:30.588
OTHER STATES NOW ACCESSING
02:25:30.655 --> 02:25:30.888
[inaudible]
02:25:30.955 --> 02:25:33.991
CALIFORNIA PATIENT DATA EVEN FOR
02:25:34.058 --> 02:25:34.926
SOMEONE POTENTIALLY HAS NEVER
02:25:34.992 --> 02:25:37.428
LEFT THE STATE.
02:25:37.495 --> 02:25:39.330
I MEAN WOULD SEEM A FLY TO THAT
02:25:39.397 --> 02:25:41.232
DATA ME SUMMONED OF A TACTICAL
02:25:41.299 --> 02:25:42.767
THREE SOME OF THE LAN PORTS FROM
02:25:42.834 --> 02:25:45.002
THE TESTIMONY IF I MIGHT THROUGH
02:25:45.069 --> 02:25:47.538
TO CHERISH.
02:25:47.605 --> 02:25:55.480
CENTER IN THE SIMULATION.
02:25:55.546 --> 02:25:56.781
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN
02:25:56.848 --> 02:25:58.583
CALIFORNIA HAS PROVIDED THAT.
02:25:58.649 --> 02:26:03.054
LONG.
02:26:03.121 --> 02:26:04.689
THAT DAHLE LAW ENFORCEMENT --
02:26:04.755 --> 02:26:06.324
CANNOT ACCESS PATIENT
02:26:06.390 --> 02:26:07.191
INFORMATION.
02:26:07.258 --> 02:26:09.026
WITHOUT A WARRANT.
02:26:09.093 --> 02:26:10.828
AND THOSE RESTRICTIONS WOULD
02:26:10.895 --> 02:26:13.064
APPLY TO ANYONE.
02:26:13.131 --> 02:26:15.266
WHO IS OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA AS
02:26:15.333 --> 02:26:16.801
WELL UNDER THE TERMS OF THIS
02:26:16.868 --> 02:26:17.935
BILL?
02:26:18.002 --> 02:26:20.571
THAT'S CERTAINLY THE FROST.
02:26:20.638 --> 02:26:22.907
OF WHAT WHAT THE BILL --
02:26:22.974 --> 02:26:24.342
WOULD DO GREAT THANK YOU AND
02:26:24.408 --> 02:26:25.910
THERE'S CASE LAW.
02:26:25.977 --> 02:26:27.845
THAT HAS DISCUSSED THE WHOLE
02:26:27.912 --> 02:26:29.580
BALANCING ISSUE.
02:26:29.647 --> 02:26:32.650
BETWEEN PRIVACY IN THIS AREA.
02:26:32.717 --> 02:26:35.786
AND THE OPIOID CRISIS.
02:26:35.853 --> 02:26:37.054
THAT IS IN FRONT OF US IN IT'S A
02:26:37.121 --> 02:26:38.856
BALANCING TEST THAT HAS BEEN
02:26:38.923 --> 02:26:40.391
DONE BUT TE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
02:26:40.458 --> 02:26:41.759
HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR.
02:26:41.826 --> 02:26:43.227
IN THE BALANCE THAT THEY HAVE
02:26:43.294 --> 02:26:44.762
SAID THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT CANNOT
02:26:44.829 --> 02:26:46.164
ACCESS.
02:26:46.230 --> 02:26:47.732
PATIENT INFORMATION WITHOUT A
02:26:47.798 --> 02:26:49.200
WARRANT AND THAT WOULD BE
02:26:49.267 --> 02:26:51.269
APPLICABLE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT IN
02:26:51.335 --> 02:26:52.537
CALIFORNIA.
02:26:52.603 --> 02:26:54.505
OR LAW ENFORCEMENT IN NEVADA OR
02:26:54.572 --> 02:26:55.840
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
02:26:55.907 --> 02:26:58.009
IN ANY OTHER CITY.
02:26:58.075 --> 02:26:59.310
MR PART OF THIS THANK YOU
02:26:59.377 --> 02:26:59.610
[inaudible]
02:26:59.677 --> 02:27:03.447
AFTER --
02:27:03.514 --> 02:27:05.249
BRIEFLY RESPOND.
02:27:05.316 --> 02:27:06.384
IF.
02:27:06.450 --> 02:27:08.786
THAT WOULD BE CORPORATE OKAY
02:27:08.853 --> 02:27:11.222
EARLY BUT MAKE SURE THE ALL THAT
02:27:11.289 --> 02:27:11.489
WE HAVE.
02:27:11.556 --> 02:27:12.456
THE INFORMATION I JUST WANTED TO
02:27:12.523 --> 02:27:13.024
CLARIFY WHAT THE ATTORNEY
02:27:13.090 --> 02:27:14.292
GENERAL HAS SAID AND IS NOT
02:27:14.358 --> 02:27:15.560
ACTUALLY IN REGULATION OR IN
02:27:15.626 --> 02:27:17.728
STATUTE BUT IN A POLICY THAT WE
02:27:17.795 --> 02:27:18.963
BELIEVE THAT [inaudible]
02:27:19.030 --> 02:27:22.633
BUT IT'S NOT ANYWHERE WRITTEN
02:27:22.700 --> 02:27:24.235
THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
02:27:24.302 --> 02:27:26.671
AYE THAT ONLY PATIENT DATA
02:27:26.737 --> 02:27:28.639
REQUIRES A WARRANT THE PROBLEM
02:27:28.706 --> 02:27:31.042
WITH THIS IS THAT PATIENT AND
02:27:31.108 --> 02:27:32.743
PRESCRIBER DATA.
02:27:32.810 --> 02:27:35.046
IS NO DIFFERENT SO IT'S ALL IN
02:27:35.112 --> 02:27:36.581
ONE REPORT YOU CAN'T GET ONE
02:27:36.647 --> 02:27:38.716
WITHOUT THE OTHER SO YOU.
02:27:38.783 --> 02:27:39.917
CURRENTLY CAN'T SEE IF YOU PULL
02:27:39.984 --> 02:27:42.119
PATIENT DATA YOU WOULD SEE WHAT
02:27:42.186 --> 02:27:44.322
THE PRESCRIBER WHICH PRESCRIBER
02:27:44.388 --> 02:27:45.756
WROTE IT WROTE THE PRESCRIPTION
02:27:45.823 --> 02:27:47.124
FOR THEM.
02:27:47.191 --> 02:27:47.692
YOU KNOW ALL THE INFORMATION
02:27:47.758 --> 02:27:48.960
ABOUT A POSITION.
02:27:49.026 --> 02:27:50.695
SIMILARLY IF YOU PULL PHYSICIAN
02:27:50.761 --> 02:27:52.730
DATA YOU SEE ALL OF THE
02:27:52.797 --> 02:27:53.764
PRESCRIPTIONS THAT THEY'VE
02:27:53.831 --> 02:27:55.800
WRITTEN AND TO WHOM AND SO YOU
02:27:55.866 --> 02:27:58.636
HAVE ACCESS ACROSS THE LINES.
02:27:58.703 --> 02:28:00.171
AND THERE IS NO DISTINCTION
02:28:00.238 --> 02:28:01.205
BETWEEN.
02:28:01.272 --> 02:28:02.506
PULLING UP POSITION PULLING
02:28:02.573 --> 02:28:04.075
POSITION DATA AND SUBSEQUENTLY
02:28:04.141 --> 02:28:05.476
GETTING ALL OF THAT PATIENT
02:28:05.543 --> 02:28:06.978
INFORMATION THAT WE BELIEVE
02:28:07.044 --> 02:28:08.946
WOULD NEED A WARRANT.
02:28:09.013 --> 02:28:11.182
I AND SO THAT IS THE THE PROBLEM
02:28:11.249 --> 02:28:12.250
OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF JUST THE
02:28:12.316 --> 02:28:13.985
PATIENT DATA WARRANT REQUIREMENT
02:28:14.051 --> 02:28:14.285
[inaudible]
02:28:14.352 --> 02:28:18.422
AND REQUIREMENT A USELESSLY
02:28:18.489 --> 02:28:20.458
BECAUSE AGAIN IT IS NOT STATED
02:28:20.524 --> 02:28:22.827
UNSTRUCTURED GROUPS.
02:28:22.893 --> 02:28:24.095
WELL JUST ONE WORD FOR FINAL
02:28:24.161 --> 02:28:25.596
FINAL FINAL WORD ON THAT UM OF
02:28:25.663 --> 02:28:27.431
FIRST OF ALL PATIENTS DO HAVE AN
02:28:27.498 --> 02:28:28.766
EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY.
02:28:28.833 --> 02:28:31.002
PROFESSIONALS LICENSED BY THE
02:28:31.068 --> 02:28:32.937
STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
02:28:33.004 --> 02:28:34.639
DO NOT HAVE THAT SAME
02:28:34.705 --> 02:28:37.341
EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY AND IN
02:28:37.408 --> 02:28:39.310
TERMS OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT WELL
02:28:39.377 --> 02:28:41.712
PATIENT DATA IS AVAILABLE --
02:28:41.779 --> 02:28:43.014
THAT'S A SIMPLE MATTER OF
02:28:43.080 --> 02:28:45.116
REDACTING THE NAMES OF THE
02:28:45.182 --> 02:28:46.284
PATIENTS I MEXICO.
02:28:46.350 --> 02:28:48.753
ELECTRONIC SLASH MECHANICAL OF
02:28:48.819 --> 02:28:50.588
THING BUT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
02:28:50.655 --> 02:28:52.123
BE TALKED INTO TODAY.
02:28:52.189 --> 02:28:55.359
IS THE PROVIDER SAYING ó WE
02:28:55.426 --> 02:28:57.628
WANT PRIVACY TO AND THERE IS NO
02:28:57.695 --> 02:28:59.196
SUCH EXPLICIT EXPECTATION OF
02:28:59.263 --> 02:29:01.299
PRIVACY.
02:29:01.365 --> 02:29:01.832
WE'RE GOOD THANK YOU OTHER
02:29:01.899 --> 02:29:04.201
QUESTIONS.
02:29:04.268 --> 02:29:05.836
HOWEVER TO CLARIFY IF SOMEONE
02:29:05.903 --> 02:29:08.272
PULLS A REPORT [inaudible]
02:29:08.339 --> 02:29:12.743
HERE'S FOR PROVIDER YOU'RE STILL
02:29:12.810 --> 02:29:14.412
GONNA GET ALL THE PEOPLE THEY'RE
02:29:14.478 --> 02:29:15.780
GONNA GET PATIENT DATA TO GET
02:29:15.846 --> 02:29:17.581
WHO THEY PRESCRIBE.
02:29:17.648 --> 02:29:20.418
TO SO THAT'S PATIENT DATA THAT'S
02:29:20.484 --> 02:29:23.854
THAT BURNS I MEAN THAT IT DOES
02:29:23.921 --> 02:29:24.889
US THOSE LETTERS AT PATIENTS
02:29:24.955 --> 02:29:25.756
THOSE PATIENTS HAVE AN
02:29:25.823 --> 02:29:27.591
EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY RIGHT
02:29:27.658 --> 02:29:28.626
EVEN IF THERE.
02:29:28.693 --> 02:29:30.661
PROVIDER SOMEHOW MAYBE INVOLVED
02:29:30.728 --> 02:29:32.163
BE INVESTIGATED Y. RAILS THERE.
02:29:32.229 --> 02:29:33.197
DOESN'T NEED [inaudible]
02:29:33.264 --> 02:29:36.734
NOW WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE WHO
02:29:36.801 --> 02:29:37.902
THEN THEY WENT AFTER PROVIDER
02:29:37.968 --> 02:29:39.070
WHO THEY SUSPECT OF SOMETHING
02:29:39.136 --> 02:29:41.172
NOW SAYING ó WELL GEE.
02:29:41.238 --> 02:29:45.576
THIS LIKE THIS PATIENT WHATEVER.
02:29:45.643 --> 02:29:48.479
THE IDIOT THAT YOU SEE THAT IT'S
02:29:48.546 --> 02:29:49.714
AYE AYE IT'S GONNA BE VERY.
02:29:49.780 --> 02:29:50.281
SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
02:29:50.348 --> 02:29:52.650
ABOUT.
02:29:52.717 --> 02:29:53.584
DESCRIBERS IMPATIENCE BUT THE
02:29:53.651 --> 02:29:55.119
THING IS UNLESS UNLESS THE
02:29:55.186 --> 02:29:55.786
REPORT THAT THE PULLOUT FROM THE
02:29:55.853 --> 02:29:58.089
COMPUTER IS PRE REDACTED I MEAN
02:29:58.155 --> 02:29:58.689
EIGHT THAT THEY CAN'T SEE THE
02:29:58.756 --> 02:29:59.457
PATIENT.
02:29:59.523 --> 02:30:01.025
THE INFORMATION BUT RIGHT NOW IF
02:30:01.092 --> 02:30:03.394
YOU HAVE SOMEONE USE THAT SAME
02:30:03.461 --> 02:30:04.962
ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE CUT ACROSS
02:30:05.029 --> 02:30:05.863
SOMEONE.
02:30:05.930 --> 02:30:07.898
ELSE SOME LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSON
02:30:07.965 --> 02:30:10.334
IN NEVADA PULLS UP A REPORT WERE
02:30:10.401 --> 02:30:11.702
TRUST LINES NOW GETS A WHOLE
02:30:11.769 --> 02:30:12.970
LIST OF PATIENTS AND SEES A
02:30:13.037 --> 02:30:14.638
PATIENT WHO LIVES IN NEVADA AND
02:30:14.705 --> 02:30:16.674
GOES O..
02:30:16.741 --> 02:30:17.241
THEY DO THAT PATIENTS UP TO
02:30:17.308 --> 02:30:20.778
SOMETHING.
02:30:20.845 --> 02:30:22.580
THAT'S WHAT GIVES SOLITAIRE AND
02:30:22.646 --> 02:30:23.514
I IN.
02:30:23.581 --> 02:30:24.982
OUR RESPONSIBILITY MONEY
02:30:25.049 --> 02:30:26.417
CALIFORNIA ACTUALLY NEVER WENT
02:30:26.484 --> 02:30:28.052
IN AND OUT AND SAYS WELL GEE OUR
02:30:28.119 --> 02:30:29.887
OUR OUR RESPONSE TO BE THAT
02:30:29.954 --> 02:30:30.421
WHERE YOU ARE [inaudible]
02:30:30.488 --> 02:30:32.423
PULLING ESCRIBIR INFORMATION.
02:30:32.490 --> 02:30:34.392
THAT IT IS.
02:30:34.458 --> 02:30:35.860
ELECTRONICALLY FEASIBLE TO
02:30:35.926 --> 02:30:37.495
SIMPLY REDACT.
02:30:37.561 --> 02:30:39.430
THE NAMES OF THE PATIENTS
02:30:39.497 --> 02:30:40.798
BECAUSE UNDER THE ATTORNEY
02:30:40.865 --> 02:30:44.301
GENERAL'S GUIDELINES --
02:30:44.368 --> 02:30:45.403
SAYS I JUST CLASS REGULARLY
02:30:45.469 --> 02:30:47.071
BECAUSE THIS BILL COURSES ABOUT
02:30:47.138 --> 02:30:48.639
CROSSING STATE LINES RIGHT IS IS
02:30:48.706 --> 02:30:49.673
THERE.
02:30:49.740 --> 02:30:51.675
FOR IS THEREFORE AN INQUIRY FROM
02:30:51.742 --> 02:30:52.743
SOMEONE OCCURRED OUTSIDE OF
02:30:52.810 --> 02:30:53.978
CALIFORNIA BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE
02:30:54.044 --> 02:30:56.247
HAVE A SYSTEM FOR IN CALIFORNIA
02:30:56.313 --> 02:30:57.314
OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA IF.
02:30:57.381 --> 02:30:59.450
A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL
02:30:59.517 --> 02:31:01.919
OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA.
02:31:01.986 --> 02:31:04.655
DECIDES TO THEN ACCESS THIS NOW
02:31:04.722 --> 02:31:06.090
JOINT DATABASE BECAUSE NOW THEY
02:31:06.157 --> 02:31:07.258
CAN GET INTO CURES.
02:31:07.324 --> 02:31:09.193
WELL IT AUTOMATICALLY REDACT THE
02:31:09.260 --> 02:31:11.162
NAMES OF ALL THE PATIENTS.
02:31:11.228 --> 02:31:12.830
THEY PULL UP THAT REPORTS OF
02:31:12.897 --> 02:31:14.465
THERE'S A PRESCRIBER.
02:31:14.532 --> 02:31:16.400
AND IN CALIFORNIA WHO THEY
02:31:16.467 --> 02:31:19.136
SUSPECT MAY BE ROVER PRESCRIBING
02:31:19.203 --> 02:31:20.171
TO PEOPLE CRY IN ON THE VERDICTS
02:31:20.237 --> 02:31:21.872
ARE CROSSING THE BORDER NOW THEY
02:31:21.939 --> 02:31:23.808
PULL THAT PERSON'S STUFF.
02:31:23.874 --> 02:31:26.243
UP HOLD THE CALIFORNIA PATIENTS
02:31:26.310 --> 02:31:27.678
AT LEAST --
02:31:27.745 --> 02:31:29.146
WHO MAY NEVER BEEN DID ABOUT A
02:31:29.213 --> 02:31:30.414
GET THEIR NAMES AYE MAK REDACTED
02:31:30.481 --> 02:31:31.816
THEY DON'T GET PULLED UP WITH
02:31:31.882 --> 02:31:33.584
THAT REPORT THAT IS NOT THE CASE
02:31:33.651 --> 02:31:35.352
CURRENTLY AND THAT IS ONE OF THE
02:31:35.419 --> 02:31:37.521
AMENDMENTS THAT THE ACLU AT
02:31:37.588 --> 02:31:40.691
LEAST I'M HAS SUGGESTED AS A?
02:31:40.758 --> 02:31:43.327
POSSIBILITY FOR US.
02:31:43.394 --> 02:31:45.696
IS THAT SOMETHING OF THE AUTHOR.
02:31:45.763 --> 02:31:47.798
LOOKING AS IF IN TWO YEARS IS AS
02:31:47.865 --> 02:31:48.399
I MENTIONED WE'RE HEADED TO
02:31:48.466 --> 02:31:49.767
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THEY
02:31:49.834 --> 02:31:50.267
HAVE BEEN ENGAGED WITH
02:31:50.334 --> 02:31:52.903
STAKEHOLDER CONVERSATIONS AND OF
02:31:52.970 --> 02:31:53.904
WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO BUT AT
02:31:53.971 --> 02:31:56.474
BUT WE HAVE IT BILL AT HAND IS
02:31:56.540 --> 02:31:58.442
THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
02:31:58.509 --> 02:32:01.045
PRICES IT AS A SEPARATE ISSUE --
02:32:01.111 --> 02:32:03.214
SLATE AND HAVE FOR THEIR
02:32:03.280 --> 02:32:04.882
CONVERSATIONS BUT I WE'RE
02:32:04.949 --> 02:32:05.816
TALKING ABOUT HERE IS VERY
02:32:05.883 --> 02:32:06.851
SPECIFIC AND SO I THINK THESE
02:32:06.917 --> 02:32:08.118
ARE A SORT OF EXOTIC
02:32:08.185 --> 02:32:08.919
EXHILARATING.
02:32:08.986 --> 02:32:11.188
ISSUES BUT HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM
02:32:11.255 --> 02:32:12.756
SADLY AS IT MOVES FORWARD ONLY
02:32:12.823 --> 02:32:14.825
DIVISION LIEGE'S BRIEFLY SAY I
02:32:14.892 --> 02:32:17.061
HOPE I'VE LOOKED. FORTY WORKING
02:32:17.127 --> 02:32:18.262
THESE ISSUES OUT I THINK
02:32:18.329 --> 02:32:19.063
PROTECTING THE PRIVACY OF
02:32:19.129 --> 02:32:21.332
CALIFORNIA PATIENTS IS REALLY
02:32:21.398 --> 02:32:22.199
IMPORTANT AND FROM A LAW
02:32:22.266 --> 02:32:24.134
ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE THAT'S
02:32:24.201 --> 02:32:26.170
NOT A NATION WITHOUT A RIGHT AND
02:32:26.237 --> 02:32:27.605
SO I'M GONNA LAY OFF THE BILL
02:32:27.671 --> 02:32:28.272
TODAY HOPE.
02:32:28.339 --> 02:32:29.940
THAT WHEN YOU'LL WORK THIS ALL
02:32:30.007 --> 02:32:31.976
OUT BY PUBLIC SAFETY AND I CAN
02:32:32.042 --> 02:32:33.644
VOTE FOR ON THE FLOOR BUT I I AM
02:32:33.711 --> 02:32:34.512
VERY CONCERNED.
02:32:34.578 --> 02:32:38.148
BUT ONE HEARING RIGHT NOW.
02:32:38.215 --> 02:32:41.018
THIS IS THE MEDIAN THE ANALYSIS
02:32:41.085 --> 02:32:42.353
TO TALK ABOUT THAT WISHES
02:32:42.419 --> 02:32:44.154
PRIVACY PROTECTIONS IS CURRENT
02:32:44.221 --> 02:32:45.422
LAW --
02:32:45.489 --> 02:32:46.357
PROTECTION FOR PATIENT DATA
02:32:46.423 --> 02:32:47.458
SPECIFIES THE OPERATION OF CURES
02:32:47.525 --> 02:32:48.759
SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE
02:32:48.826 --> 02:32:50.661
FEDERAL AND STATE PRIVACY AND
02:32:50.728 --> 02:32:51.662
SECURITY LAWS AND REGULATIONS
02:32:51.729 --> 02:32:53.297
CURRENTLY.
02:32:53.364 --> 02:32:55.966
IS THE WAITED BY H. AS SHE
02:32:56.033 --> 02:32:57.768
SECTION ONE ONE ONE RIGHT EXCEPT
02:32:57.835 --> 02:33:00.137
THAT CALIFORNIA'S PRIVACY LAWS
02:33:00.204 --> 02:33:01.405
AS WELL AS HAVE BUT AREN'T
02:33:01.472 --> 02:33:03.274
APPLICABLE TO CARES.
02:33:03.340 --> 02:33:05.643
AND THEREFORE SAYING THAT WE'RE
02:33:05.709 --> 02:33:06.810
GOING TO COMPLY THAT THIS WILL
02:33:06.877 --> 02:33:08.679
COMPLY WITH PRIVACY LAWS IT'S
02:33:08.746 --> 02:33:09.914
FABULOUS IF THEY APPLY.
02:33:09.980 --> 02:33:11.649
BUT GIVEN THAT THEY DON'T APPLY
02:33:11.715 --> 02:33:12.583
BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT OF
02:33:12.650 --> 02:33:14.585
JUSTICE IS NOT A COVERED ENTITY
02:33:14.652 --> 02:33:16.020
UNDER EITHER OF THOSE TWO
02:33:16.086 --> 02:33:18.122
STATUTES --
02:33:18.188 --> 02:33:21.025
THOSE PROTECTIONS THE DONOR
02:33:21.091 --> 02:33:22.726
ACTUALLY HEARD THAT BECAUSE
02:33:22.793 --> 02:33:23.327
DOESN'T ACTUALLY PROVIDE MUCH
02:33:23.394 --> 02:33:24.395
PROTECTION [inaudible]
02:33:24.461 --> 02:33:27.398
IT WOULD.
02:33:27.464 --> 02:33:29.266
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
02:33:29.333 --> 02:33:30.367
COMMENTS AND FOR THE SUPPORT WE
02:33:30.434 --> 02:33:33.170
WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE SHARE
02:33:33.237 --> 02:33:35.673
LOW AND THE WE WILL CERTAINLY
02:33:35.739 --> 02:33:36.807
ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THE PROPER
02:33:36.874 --> 02:33:38.108
TIME THANK YOU VERY MUCH I
02:33:38.175 --> 02:33:39.476
RESPECT THAT'S RIGHT.
02:33:39.543 --> 02:33:40.678
I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TEST
02:33:40.744 --> 02:33:43.614
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER.
02:33:43.681 --> 02:33:45.282
FOUR AB SEVENTEEN FIFTY TWO BY
02:33:45.349 --> 02:33:46.917
ASSEMBLYMEMBER LOW.
02:33:46.984 --> 02:33:48.586
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN MISTER
02:33:48.652 --> 02:33:49.620
CHAIR MEMBERS --
02:33:49.687 --> 02:33:51.555
AGAIN WITH RESPECT THAT YOUR
02:33:51.622 --> 02:33:52.289
DATABASE --
02:33:52.356 --> 02:33:54.725
ADDING SCHEDULE FIVE A DRUGS TO
02:33:54.792 --> 02:33:56.827
THE DATABASE AND ALSO REQUIRING
02:33:56.894 --> 02:33:59.129
A FROM SEVEN DAYS REPORTING --
02:33:59.196 --> 02:34:00.164
TO TWENTY FOUR HOURS TO ENSURE
02:34:00.230 --> 02:34:00.831
THAT WE HAVE --
02:34:00.898 --> 02:34:01.699
INFORMATION IN REAL TIME AND
02:34:01.765 --> 02:34:04.635
RESPECT YOU VERY MUCH OF
02:34:04.702 --> 02:34:07.338
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
02:34:07.404 --> 02:34:08.472
MARY CAN WITH THE CALIFORNIA
02:34:08.539 --> 02:34:09.974
DENTAL ASSOCIATION AGAIN A WE
02:34:10.040 --> 02:34:11.208
ALSO STAND IN SUPPORT OF THE
02:34:11.275 --> 02:34:13.477
SPELL OUT AGAIN.
02:34:13.544 --> 02:34:14.845
LIKE MANY OF THE BILLS --
02:34:14.912 --> 02:34:15.980
TRYING TO COMBAT THE OPIOID
02:34:16.046 --> 02:34:17.982
CAUGHT CRISIS THIS YEAR --
02:34:18.048 --> 02:34:20.150
CDA STANCE IN SUPPORT OF BILLS
02:34:20.217 --> 02:34:21.251
THAT REALLY PROVIDE PROVIDERS
02:34:21.318 --> 02:34:22.319
WITH MORE EDUCATION SO THEY CAN
02:34:22.386 --> 02:34:25.022
MAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE DECISION
02:34:25.089 --> 02:34:26.056
PRESCRIBER DECISION FOR THEIR
02:34:26.123 --> 02:34:28.025
PATIENTS AND WE BELIEVE THAT
02:34:28.092 --> 02:34:28.626
THIS IS ONE OF THE BILLS THAT
02:34:28.692 --> 02:34:30.594
HOPE --
02:34:30.661 --> 02:34:31.629
SUCCEED THAT GOAL* AGAIN
02:34:31.695 --> 02:34:34.531
THANK YOU OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
02:34:34.598 --> 02:34:35.232
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN BURTON
02:34:35.299 --> 02:34:35.766
AGAIN ARE TO ME AFTER THE
02:34:35.833 --> 02:34:36.900
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
02:34:36.967 --> 02:34:40.270
IN SUPPORT OF AB.
02:34:40.337 --> 02:34:40.904
SEVENTEEN FIFTY TWO WHICH IS ON
02:34:40.971 --> 02:34:41.572
I THINK THE AUTHOR FOR THIS ONE
02:34:41.639 --> 02:34:42.606
I THINK THAT IT MAKES ARE REALLY
02:34:42.673 --> 02:34:44.708
NECESSARY CHANGE WITH THE FIVE
02:34:44.775 --> 02:34:46.143
ONE BUSINESS DAY ARE THE TWENTY
02:34:46.210 --> 02:34:47.745
FOUR HOUR REPORTING.
02:34:47.811 --> 02:34:49.813
I A CLOSES CAN HAVE.
02:34:49.880 --> 02:34:51.682
AND LOOPHOLE IN PRESCRIPTIONS
02:34:51.749 --> 02:34:54.752
GETTING THAT ISSUED WITHIN RIGHT
02:34:54.818 --> 02:34:56.854
NOW UP TO A WEEK AND NOT HITTING
02:34:56.920 --> 02:34:58.222
THE DATABASE AND SO.
02:34:58.288 --> 02:34:59.289
IT REALLY WILL ENSURE THAT
02:34:59.356 --> 02:35:00.691
PRESCRIBERS HAVE REAL TIME
02:35:00.758 --> 02:35:02.459
INFORMATION AND UPDATES AS TO
02:35:02.526 --> 02:35:03.060
WHAT THEIR PATIENTS HAVE BEEN
02:35:03.127 --> 02:35:03.961
RECEIVING.
02:35:04.028 --> 02:35:05.562
AND WE THINK THAT IT MAKES A
02:35:05.629 --> 02:35:06.530
GREAT CHANGE IN SUPPORT THAT I'M
02:35:06.597 --> 02:35:08.666
VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH
02:35:08.732 --> 02:35:09.600
FOR THE SUPPORT OTHERS IN
02:35:09.667 --> 02:35:12.436
SUPPORT OF AND JOHN ARE EIGHT OF
02:35:12.503 --> 02:35:12.970
US ARE YA.
02:35:13.037 --> 02:35:13.771
JOHN LEVEL ASSOCIATION OF DEPUTY
02:35:13.837 --> 02:35:14.371
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS CALIFORNIA
02:35:14.438 --> 02:35:16.040
ASSOCIATION CODE ENFORCEMENT
02:35:16.106 --> 02:35:18.242
OFFICERS CALIFORNIA COLLEGE AND
02:35:18.308 --> 02:35:20.110
UNIVERSITY POLICE CHIEFS.
02:35:20.177 --> 02:35:21.745
CALIFORNIA NARCOTICS OFFICERS
02:35:21.812 --> 02:35:23.280
AND THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
02:35:23.347 --> 02:35:25.582
PROFESSIONAL POLICE OFFICERS ALL
02:35:25.649 --> 02:35:28.318
IN SUPPORT IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.
02:35:28.385 --> 02:35:30.454
AS ALWAYS THANK YOU.
02:35:30.521 --> 02:35:32.356
OTHERS IN SUPPORT GOOD AFTERNOON
02:35:32.423 --> 02:35:33.724
VIRGINIA HEROLD HELPING STATE
02:35:33.791 --> 02:35:34.892
BOARD OF PHARMACY OFTEN VERY
02:35:34.958 --> 02:35:37.761
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU.
02:35:37.828 --> 02:35:39.096
SCHIRMER SCORES ALSO ON BEHALF
02:35:39.163 --> 02:35:40.330
OF CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
02:35:40.397 --> 02:35:42.433
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT THANK YOU.
02:35:42.499 --> 02:35:43.767
TERMINAL MEMBERS MIKE MATTER
02:35:43.834 --> 02:35:45.035
COME BEHALF OF CONSUMER WATCHDOG
02:35:45.102 --> 02:35:46.170
AND CONSUMER ATTORNEYS A
02:35:46.236 --> 02:35:47.571
CALIFORNIA STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
02:35:47.638 --> 02:35:47.771
BILL.
02:35:47.838 --> 02:35:49.740
THANK YOU.
02:35:49.807 --> 02:35:51.208
OUR PRICE DOUGHERTY AGAIN ON
02:35:51.275 --> 02:35:52.276
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA SOCIETY
02:35:52.342 --> 02:35:53.544
OF ANESTHESIOLOGISTS AND SUPPORT
02:35:53.610 --> 02:35:57.247
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:35:57.314 --> 02:35:57.881
TIFFANY MATTHEW SOME AFTER THE
02:35:57.948 --> 02:35:59.817
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
02:35:59.883 --> 02:36:00.818
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT PRETTY
02:36:00.884 --> 02:36:02.853
GOOD THANK YOU.
02:36:02.920 --> 02:36:04.254
JENNIFER SUMMERS OF THE MEDICAL
02:36:04.321 --> 02:36:05.022
BOARD OF CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT
02:36:05.089 --> 02:36:06.657
THANK YOU JENNIFER.
02:36:06.724 --> 02:36:09.793
I SEE ONE MORE SUPPORT COMING.
02:36:09.860 --> 02:36:10.494
GOOD AFTERNOON MARRIED THERE
02:36:10.561 --> 02:36:11.528
WITH COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
02:36:11.595 --> 02:36:12.863
DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
02:36:12.930 --> 02:36:15.532
WONDERFUL AND OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
02:36:15.599 --> 02:36:16.567
IS ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION
02:36:16.633 --> 02:36:23.140
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
02:36:23.207 --> 02:36:26.376
GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.
02:36:26.443 --> 02:36:27.611
THAT OFTEN IN AGAIN BECCA KRAMER
02:36:27.678 --> 02:36:28.979
MATTER SO ON BEHALF OF A SILLY
02:36:29.046 --> 02:36:31.215
OF CALIFORNIA ALSO AND AND
02:36:31.281 --> 02:36:33.450
OPPOSE A MONTH AMENDED POSITION
02:36:33.517 --> 02:36:34.251
FOR THAT SPELL.
02:36:34.318 --> 02:36:35.753
AND I WON'T REPEAT OLIVER
02:36:35.819 --> 02:36:36.520
REASONS FOR THINKING THAT
02:36:36.587 --> 02:36:38.222
PRIVACY PROTECTIONS NEED TO BE
02:36:38.288 --> 02:36:39.723
EXTENDED TO CARRIERS I'LL JUST
02:36:39.790 --> 02:36:41.258
SAY THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE
02:36:41.325 --> 02:36:42.025
SPELL.
02:36:42.092 --> 02:36:44.094
AND WE THINK THAT THERE SHOULD
02:36:44.161 --> 02:36:46.363
NOT BE ADDITIONAL PRESCRIPTIONS
02:36:46.430 --> 02:36:47.598
GOING INTO CARE IS WITHOUT
02:36:47.664 --> 02:36:49.500
PRIVACY PROTECTIONS.
02:36:49.566 --> 02:36:50.634
TIPPER ATTACKED ON A
02:36:50.701 --> 02:36:53.604
CALIFORNIANS AND WHEN SEARCHES
02:36:53.670 --> 02:36:54.805
ARE DONE WITHIN THE STATE I'M
02:36:54.872 --> 02:36:56.140
JUST AS WE THINK THAT PRIVACY
02:36:56.206 --> 02:36:58.041
PROTECTION SHOULD BE EXTENDED
02:36:58.108 --> 02:36:58.342
FOR NGUYEN.
02:36:58.408 --> 02:37:00.444
MON FORSMAN AND STATE AGENCIES
02:37:00.511 --> 02:37:02.012
ARE OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA'S
02:37:02.079 --> 02:37:03.280
THIRTEEN THE DATABASE WE THINK
02:37:03.347 --> 02:37:04.214
THAT THEY SHOULD ALSO BE
02:37:04.281 --> 02:37:07.317
EXTENDED TO CALIFORNIA THE
02:37:07.384 --> 02:37:09.453
ENTITIES.
02:37:09.520 --> 02:37:10.654
THOUGH WHERE SHARON OPPOSE
02:37:10.721 --> 02:37:13.557
UNLESS AMENDED UNTIL PET ISSUES
02:37:13.624 --> 02:37:15.125
A DRASTIC YOU DON'T YOU.
02:37:15.192 --> 02:37:17.995
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
02:37:18.061 --> 02:37:19.596
IT AFTERNOON AGAIN CHAIR AND
02:37:19.663 --> 02:37:21.231
MEMBERS DANIEL CANDOR KAISER ON
02:37:21.298 --> 02:37:22.332
BEHALF OF THE ELECTRONIC
02:37:22.399 --> 02:37:24.134
FRONTIER FOUNDATION.
02:37:24.201 --> 02:37:26.036
I IN KEEPING WITH THE IS STILL
02:37:26.103 --> 02:37:27.538
USE STATEMENTS WE ARE ALSO
02:37:27.604 --> 02:37:30.240
OPPOSED LESSEN THANK YOU VERY
02:37:30.307 --> 02:37:31.108
THANK YOU.
02:37:31.175 --> 02:37:33.410
ANYWHERE ELSE IN OPPOSITION SEEN
02:37:33.477 --> 02:37:34.578
NO ONE BRING IT BACK TO THE
02:37:34.645 --> 02:37:37.314
CLINIC FOR US AND YOUR COMMENTS.
02:37:37.381 --> 02:37:38.816
AND WE ARE STILL SHORT A QUORUM
02:37:38.882 --> 02:37:40.517
SO OF WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE IN
02:37:40.584 --> 02:37:41.218
THIS --
02:37:41.285 --> 02:37:42.753
CHAIR LOW THANK YOU VERY MUCH
02:37:42.820 --> 02:37:43.554
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK.
02:37:43.620 --> 02:37:45.222
YOU VERY MUCH WE WILL ENTERTAIN
02:37:45.289 --> 02:37:46.490
A MOTION AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME
02:37:46.557 --> 02:37:47.958
WE'LL MOVE NOW.
02:37:48.025 --> 02:37:52.329
TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE AB SEVENTEEN
02:37:52.396 --> 02:37:52.963
FIFTY FIFTY THREE CARILLO THANK
02:37:53.030 --> 02:37:53.931
YOU VERY MUCH MR CHAIRMAN
02:37:53.997 --> 02:37:55.299
MEMBERS THIS IS WITH RESPECT TO
02:37:55.365 --> 02:37:56.366
PRESCRIPTION PAD CONTROLS TO
02:37:56.433 --> 02:37:58.168
ENSURE THAT.
02:37:58.235 --> 02:38:00.037
WE HAVE THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO
02:38:00.103 --> 02:38:01.905
TRACK DOWN MANY OF THESE
02:38:01.972 --> 02:38:03.574
PRESCRIPTIONS HAS THAT MAY GET
02:38:03.640 --> 02:38:05.142
INTO THE WRONG HANDS AND THEIR
02:38:05.209 --> 02:38:06.643
SPECT ASK FOR A VOTE WE'RE GOOD
02:38:06.710 --> 02:38:08.111
THANK YOU WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
02:38:08.178 --> 02:38:09.513
JOHN LEVEL CALIFORNIA NARCOTICS
02:38:09.580 --> 02:38:11.882
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS
02:38:11.949 --> 02:38:13.317
THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT GROUPS
02:38:13.383 --> 02:38:13.784
AND IMMIGRATED.
02:38:13.851 --> 02:38:17.020
ALL IN SUPPORT.
02:38:17.087 --> 02:38:17.688
THANK YOU CAME AFTER SOME HALF
02:38:17.754 --> 02:38:18.522
THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
02:38:18.589 --> 02:38:19.756
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION AND
02:38:19.823 --> 02:38:21.592
SUPPORT WONDERFUL THANK.
02:38:21.658 --> 02:38:22.759
THEY MIGHT MATTER COME TO HAVE A
02:38:22.826 --> 02:38:23.327
CONSUMER WATCHDOG CONSUMER
02:38:23.393 --> 02:38:24.928
ATTORNEYS CALIFORNIA FINISHING
02:38:24.995 --> 02:38:26.196
UP THE STRIFE ACT OF SUPPORT
02:38:26.263 --> 02:38:28.899
THANK YOU.
02:38:28.966 --> 02:38:30.500
AND DEVON THOUSAND AMERICA'S
02:38:30.567 --> 02:38:31.068
PHYSICIAN GROUPS IN SUPPORT
02:38:31.134 --> 02:38:33.103
THANK YOU.
02:38:33.170 --> 02:38:34.638
BRENT SPENCER MAP ó CHIN AND
02:38:34.705 --> 02:38:36.440
SPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:38:36.506 --> 02:38:37.107
FOR THE ABOUT ON BEHALF
02:38:37.174 --> 02:38:38.242
CALIFORNIA LIFE SCIENCES
02:38:38.308 --> 02:38:41.578
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
02:38:41.645 --> 02:38:42.479
MARY THERE ON BEHALF OF THE
02:38:42.546 --> 02:38:43.013
COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
02:38:43.080 --> 02:38:44.548
DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
02:38:44.615 --> 02:38:46.083
GOOD OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
02:38:46.149 --> 02:38:50.854
IS THERE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION.
02:38:50.921 --> 02:38:52.256
YOU KNOW ONE FOR HIS BACK THAT
02:38:52.322 --> 02:38:53.390
YES LEFT PAN --
02:38:53.457 --> 02:38:55.125
THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE SOME
02:38:55.192 --> 02:38:56.727
THE CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF THESE
02:38:56.793 --> 02:38:58.195
PAPER PRESCRIPTIONS SECURE
02:38:58.262 --> 02:38:59.129
PRESCRIPTIONS AND JUST THE ONE
02:38:59.196 --> 02:39:01.298
THING I WANT TO BE SURE IS THAT
02:39:01.365 --> 02:39:01.865
WE DON'T CREATE A SITUATION
02:39:01.932 --> 02:39:02.699
WHERE.
02:39:02.766 --> 02:39:05.269
ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE A GROUP OF
02:39:05.335 --> 02:39:07.871
VENDORS WHO HAVE A LOCK ON THE
02:39:07.938 --> 02:39:08.572
SITUATION AND THEN JACK UP
02:39:08.639 --> 02:39:10.207
PRICES.
02:39:10.274 --> 02:39:12.476
FOR DESCRIPTION PARENTS --
02:39:12.542 --> 02:39:13.010
EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE A
02:39:13.076 --> 02:39:13.644
BUILDING USED ELECTRONIC
02:39:13.710 --> 02:39:15.479
PRESCRIPTION LATER ON WE HOPE WE
02:39:15.545 --> 02:39:17.281
CAN MOVE INTO AS WELL --
02:39:17.347 --> 02:39:18.949
SO CAN YOU JUST ADDRESS I MEAN
02:39:19.016 --> 02:39:20.250
THIS ISN'T GOING TO CAP THE
02:39:20.317 --> 02:39:21.018
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN
02:39:21.084 --> 02:39:21.318
[inaudible]
02:39:21.385 --> 02:39:25.289
BE -- THEY
02:39:25.355 --> 02:39:26.690
CAN ENTER NERVES WHEN I CREATE
02:39:26.757 --> 02:39:28.125
ANY WE DO HAVE TO MEET STANDARDS
02:39:28.191 --> 02:39:29.393
BUT THERE'S AYE AYE CAPTAIN
02:39:29.459 --> 02:39:29.893
NUMBER PRINTERS THAT CAN
02:39:29.960 --> 02:39:30.327
ACTUALLY --
02:39:30.394 --> 02:39:32.562
BE --
02:39:32.629 --> 02:39:33.997
PARTICIPATING IF SOMEWHAT ENTER
02:39:34.064 --> 02:39:35.499
THE MARKET LOWER THE PRICE AS
02:39:35.565 --> 02:39:39.803
WELL AS YES DISCREDITED AND HIS
02:39:39.870 --> 02:39:40.504
PARTNER JUST OF A NOT IN THE IT
02:39:40.570 --> 02:39:41.638
WILL BE ALLOWED TO REDUCE THE
02:39:41.705 --> 02:39:42.706
AMOUNT OF PROGRESS SHOULD IT
02:39:42.773 --> 02:39:43.440
IMPACT THAT THAT THAT.
02:39:43.507 --> 02:39:47.377
THE DEMANDS A SO VERY.
02:39:47.444 --> 02:39:48.345
COGNIZANT AND AWARE OF THE ISSUE
02:39:48.412 --> 02:39:53.717
THAT YOU'VE ADDRESSED.
02:39:53.784 --> 02:39:55.018
SO QUESTION CREEK MARATHON IT
02:39:55.085 --> 02:39:56.553
LIMITS THE NUMBER OF VENDORS
02:39:56.620 --> 02:39:58.055
ISN'T IT.
02:39:58.121 --> 02:39:59.923
NUMBER OF VENDORS.
02:39:59.990 --> 02:40:01.758
TO THREE THERE WAS CHANGES THAT
02:40:01.825 --> 02:40:03.293
WERE MADE IN THE IN THE ASSEMBLY.
02:40:03.360 --> 02:40:04.561
OF THAT OF OF ALLOWS FOR THE
02:40:04.628 --> 02:40:07.531
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO COME UP
02:40:07.597 --> 02:40:10.467
WITH THE TWO A JACKET ME BECAUSE
02:40:10.534 --> 02:40:12.469
I AND THAT'S WHAT HAVE BEEN THE
02:40:12.536 --> 02:40:14.204
SAME JOURNEY BUT WHEN I WAS
02:40:14.271 --> 02:40:15.439
READING OF THOSE VENDORS
02:40:15.505 --> 02:40:18.108
ASSEMBLY OF LESS VENDORS AND YOU
02:40:18.175 --> 02:40:19.209
COULD GET A MONOPOLY AND COULD.
02:40:19.276 --> 02:40:23.513
PRICE SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST.
02:40:23.580 --> 02:40:24.047
YES THANK YOU VERY SECOND
02:40:24.114 --> 02:40:25.615
AMENDMENT SAID NO LONGER HAVE
02:40:25.682 --> 02:40:27.784
THE CAFFEINE IN PLACE TO ADDRESS
02:40:27.851 --> 02:40:29.653
MANY OF THE OUTSTANDING CONCERNS
02:40:29.720 --> 02:40:35.525
AND RESPECTFULLY ASK PRIVATE.
02:40:35.592 --> 02:40:40.831
A A ROSE ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR AB
02:40:40.897 --> 02:40:41.999
SEVENTEEN FIFTY TWO IT WILL YOU
02:40:42.065 --> 02:40:43.233
YOU ACCEPT HIM AND YES VERY
02:40:43.300 --> 02:40:43.867
CARING THANK YOU VERY MUCH
02:40:43.934 --> 02:40:44.267
APPRECIATE THAT.
02:40:44.334 --> 02:40:47.104
WILL MOVE NOW TO ITEM NINETEEN
02:40:47.170 --> 02:40:48.405
AB TWENTY FOUR OF CHIU.
02:40:48.472 --> 02:40:50.040
PLEASE PROCEED TO THAT YOU VERY
02:40:50.107 --> 02:40:50.674
MUCH MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS THIS
02:40:50.741 --> 02:40:52.743
IS OF OF TO ALLOW FOR PRIVACY
02:40:52.809 --> 02:40:54.444
PROTECTIONS FOR ADULT USE
02:40:54.511 --> 02:40:57.080
CANNABIS AND TO ENSURE THAT.
02:40:57.147 --> 02:40:58.715
AND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
02:40:58.782 --> 02:41:00.650
CONSUMERS DO NOT HAVE THEIR
02:41:00.717 --> 02:41:02.452
INFORMATION BEING SENT OUT OF
02:41:02.519 --> 02:41:03.487
WITHOUT THE PERMISSION
02:41:03.553 --> 02:41:04.955
RESPECTFULLY ASK PRIVATE FIGURE
02:41:05.022 --> 02:41:06.990
THANK YOU WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
02:41:07.057 --> 02:41:08.325
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
02:41:08.392 --> 02:41:11.661
ITEM NUMBER.
02:41:11.728 --> 02:41:12.596
YEAH YOU MISTER CHAIR CHASING
02:41:12.662 --> 02:41:13.296
RIGHT OF HAVE TO CALIFORNIA
02:41:13.363 --> 02:41:15.565
GROWERS ASSOCIATION WE ARE IN
02:41:15.632 --> 02:41:16.166
SUPPORT OF BILL AND WE'RE GOOD
02:41:16.233 --> 02:41:18.335
THANK YOU.
02:41:18.402 --> 02:41:20.103
MR MEMBERS RAND MARTIN ON BEHALF
02:41:20.170 --> 02:41:21.538
OF CMG KHALIFA ONE OF THE
02:41:21.605 --> 02:41:23.573
LARGEST PROVIDERS OF CANNABIS IN
02:41:23.640 --> 02:41:25.042
THE STATE I'M IN SUPPORT THANK
02:41:25.108 --> 02:41:27.177
YOU THANK YOU.
02:41:27.244 --> 02:41:28.278
EMILY CHILD ON BEHALF OF ACLU OF
02:41:28.345 --> 02:41:29.613
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT GOOD
02:41:29.679 --> 02:41:30.680
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OTHERS IN
02:41:30.747 --> 02:41:33.750
SUPPORT.
02:41:33.817 --> 02:41:35.018
FISHER PARTLY I'M BEHALF OF MY
02:41:35.085 --> 02:41:36.586
COLLEAGUE AMY JENKINS ON BEHALF
02:41:36.653 --> 02:41:38.622
OF THE I TELL.
02:41:38.688 --> 02:41:40.090
THE CIA ALSO IN SUPPORT WHERE
02:41:40.157 --> 02:41:41.625
YOU THINK YOU IS THERE ANYONE
02:41:41.691 --> 02:41:43.260
HERE IN OPPOSITION.
02:41:43.326 --> 02:41:43.794
YOU KNOW ONE BACK TO THE
02:41:43.860 --> 02:41:46.363
COMMITTEE.
02:41:46.430 --> 02:41:47.230
ASSEMBLYMEMBER LOVE THINK YOU'RE
02:41:47.297 --> 02:41:48.298
MY SISTER AND I ALSO WANT TO
02:41:48.365 --> 02:41:49.733
INDICATE THAT THERE ARE TEXTUAL
02:41:49.800 --> 02:41:51.735
MEN'S AUTHOR MEN'S AS WELL
02:41:51.802 --> 02:41:53.403
BEFORE YOU SETTLE WITH RESPECT
02:41:53.470 --> 02:41:54.337
IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
02:41:54.404 --> 02:41:54.905
EXPECT TO ASK FOR A VOTE.
02:41:54.971 --> 02:41:56.373
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE WILL DO
02:41:56.440 --> 02:41:57.474
THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME I
02:41:57.541 --> 02:41:59.042
SEE NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
02:41:59.109 --> 02:42:01.611
FROM THE COMMITTEE OF WOULD YOU
02:42:01.678 --> 02:42:03.980
LIKE TO COMPOSE I THINK YOU GOOD
02:42:04.047 --> 02:42:04.748
AND WE WILL.
02:42:04.815 --> 02:42:06.650
DO THAT AND IT'S A PLEASURE
02:42:06.716 --> 02:42:07.184
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE
02:42:07.250 --> 02:42:08.585
ASSEMBLY MEMBER.
02:42:08.652 --> 02:42:09.419
THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR HEALTH
02:42:09.486 --> 02:42:11.154
CARE I DON'T NOT SURE IF WE HAVE
02:42:11.221 --> 02:42:14.458
BEFORE YOU ASSEMBLY BILL.
02:42:14.524 --> 02:42:15.625
TWENTY ONE THIRTY EIGHT OF
02:42:15.692 --> 02:42:17.994
PRESENTED BY DO THEM AGAIN.
02:42:18.061 --> 02:42:20.130
AND MIGHT WE HAS UP TO JUST TAKE
02:42:20.197 --> 02:42:21.865
VERY GOOD AROUND HIM REMEMBER TO
02:42:21.932 --> 02:42:23.767
YOU -- WERE
02:42:23.834 --> 02:42:24.668
NEXT ON OUR LIST UNITY THAT
02:42:24.734 --> 02:42:26.369
THANK YOU.
02:42:26.436 --> 02:42:27.304
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN ALSO
02:42:27.370 --> 02:42:28.238
THANK HER JOINT AUTHORED WHO
02:42:28.305 --> 02:42:28.839
WILL -- ADD
02:42:28.905 --> 02:42:29.773
A FEW WORDS --
02:42:29.840 --> 02:42:31.308
AFTER MY INITIAL COMMENTS BUT
02:42:31.374 --> 02:42:32.876
FIRST VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR
02:42:32.943 --> 02:42:34.077
CONSIDERATION OF THIS BILL TO
02:42:34.144 --> 02:42:35.745
REDUCE BARRIERS TO OCCUPATIONAL
02:42:35.812 --> 02:42:36.713
LICENSING.
02:42:36.780 --> 02:42:37.747
LET ME FIRST START BY THANKING
02:42:37.814 --> 02:42:38.915
YOUR COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
02:42:38.982 --> 02:42:40.150
TIRELESS WORK IN THIS BILL AS
02:42:40.217 --> 02:42:41.685
WELL AS TO CHEER FOR YOUR
02:42:41.751 --> 02:42:43.220
DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AND SAY AT
02:42:43.286 --> 02:42:43.920
THE OUTSET.
02:42:43.987 --> 02:42:46.356
WE ACCEPT ALL OF THE SUGGESTED
02:42:46.423 --> 02:42:46.857
AMENDMENTS LISTED IN THE
02:42:46.923 --> 02:42:47.858
ANALYSIS.
02:42:47.924 --> 02:42:49.493
IN CALIFORNIA THERE ALMOST EIGHT
02:42:49.559 --> 02:42:51.394
MILLION PEOPLE CLOSE TO ONE IN
02:42:51.461 --> 02:42:52.729
THREE ADULTS WHO HAVE AN ARREST
02:42:52.796 --> 02:42:53.797
FOR CONVICTION RECORD.
02:42:53.864 --> 02:42:55.132
OUR STATE HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST
02:42:55.198 --> 02:42:57.000
RECIDIVISM RATES IN THE COUNTRY
02:42:57.067 --> 02:42:57.968
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ONE OF THE
02:42:58.034 --> 02:42:59.736
ROOT CAUSES OF RECIDIVISM IS THE
02:42:59.803 --> 02:43:01.505
INABILITY OF EX OFFENDERS TO GET
02:43:01.571 --> 02:43:03.406
A JOB UPON REENTRY.
02:43:03.473 --> 02:43:05.742
AT THE SAME TIME ALMOST 30% OF
02:43:05.809 --> 02:43:07.544
ALL JOBS REQUIRE A LICENSE A
02:43:07.611 --> 02:43:09.446
CERTIFICATE BOARD APPROVAL BY
02:43:09.513 --> 02:43:10.981
OVERSIGHT BOARD OR AGENCY FOR
02:43:11.047 --> 02:43:12.415
ALMOST EIGHTEEN HUNDRED
02:43:12.482 --> 02:43:12.716
DIFFERENT.
02:43:12.782 --> 02:43:15.285
UP OCCUPATIONS WHAT THIS MEANS
02:43:15.352 --> 02:43:16.987
IS EIGHT MILLION CALIFORNIANS
02:43:17.053 --> 02:43:18.121
FACE SIGNIFICANT BARRIERS WHEN
02:43:18.188 --> 02:43:19.890
SEEKING A LICENSE TO WORK AND
02:43:19.956 --> 02:43:21.358
30% OF ALL JOBS.
02:43:21.424 --> 02:43:22.826
EVEN WHEN THE ARREST HER
02:43:22.893 --> 02:43:24.694
CONVICTION IS OLD IS UNRELATED
02:43:24.761 --> 02:43:25.896
TO THE JOB WERE DISMISSED BY A
02:43:25.962 --> 02:43:27.297
JUDGE.
02:43:27.364 --> 02:43:28.965
THIS BILL PROPOSES TO ESTABLISH
02:43:29.032 --> 02:43:31.168
A TRANSPARENCY LICENSING PROCESS
02:43:31.234 --> 02:43:32.002
TO GIVE THESE CALIFORNIANS A
02:43:32.068 --> 02:43:34.738
FAIR CHANCE AS IS THE CASE IN A
02:43:34.804 --> 02:43:36.006
NUMBER OF OTHER STATES BY
02:43:36.072 --> 02:43:37.374
PROHIBITING THE DENIAL OF THE
02:43:37.440 --> 02:43:39.009
LICENSE ON THE BASIS OF A
02:43:39.075 --> 02:43:39.743
NONVIOLENT.
02:43:39.809 --> 02:43:41.478
WERE NON SERIOUS CONVICTION
02:43:41.545 --> 02:43:43.346
OLDER THAN SEVEN YEARS UNLESS IT
02:43:43.413 --> 02:43:45.048
IS SUBSTANTIALLY RELATED TO THE
02:43:45.115 --> 02:43:46.683
DUTIES OF THE PROFESSION FOR
02:43:46.750 --> 02:43:48.218
WHICH THE APPLICATION IS MADE.
02:43:48.285 --> 02:43:49.653
FOR LICENSES UNDER THE
02:43:49.719 --> 02:43:51.021
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS
02:43:51.087 --> 02:43:53.089
WHICH REGULATES OVER FORTY MAJOR
02:43:53.156 --> 02:43:54.724
PROFESSIONS ARE BILL ALSO
02:43:54.791 --> 02:43:56.026
REQUIRES BOARDS TO COLLECT
02:43:56.092 --> 02:43:57.961
DEMOGRAPHIC DATA ABOUT WHO HAS
02:43:58.028 --> 02:43:59.362
BEEN DENIED LICENSES.
02:43:59.429 --> 02:44:01.565
ARE IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND --
02:44:01.631 --> 02:44:03.767
EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON I'D
02:44:03.833 --> 02:44:05.202
LIKE TO NOTE THAT OUR BILL WITH
02:44:05.268 --> 02:44:05.936
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS NOW
02:44:06.002 --> 02:44:07.837
REFERENCES FORTY THREE CRIMES
02:44:07.904 --> 02:44:08.805
THAT ARE CONSIDERED SERIOUS
02:44:08.872 --> 02:44:09.773
UNDER STATE LAW.
02:44:09.839 --> 02:44:11.841
AND WOULD BE CONSIDERED OUR
02:44:11.908 --> 02:44:12.909
COULD BE CONSIDERED BY LICENSING
02:44:12.976 --> 02:44:14.611
BOARD AT ANY TIME.
02:44:14.678 --> 02:44:16.046
WE KNOW THE INTENT OF OUR SYSTEM
02:44:16.112 --> 02:44:17.647
IS REHABILITATION WE HAVE TO
02:44:17.714 --> 02:44:19.516
WALK THE WALK IT'S IMPORTANT ARE
02:44:19.583 --> 02:44:20.951
THAT IF WE ARE SAYING THAT WE
02:44:21.017 --> 02:44:22.619
WANT TO REFILL TAPE PEOPLE.
02:44:22.686 --> 02:44:23.553
AND THEN BLOCKING THEM FROM
02:44:23.620 --> 02:44:25.388
ACCESSING JOBS THAT DOES MAKE
02:44:25.455 --> 02:44:27.090
SENSE IN WITH THAT WANT TO TURN
02:44:27.157 --> 02:44:27.924
IT OVER TO OUR JOINT AUTHORED
02:44:27.991 --> 02:44:28.225
[inaudible]
02:44:28.291 --> 02:44:30.393
VERY GOOD.
02:44:30.460 --> 02:44:31.428
IT'S VERY MUCH MISTER CHAIRMAN
02:44:31.494 --> 02:44:32.729
THANK YOU VERY MUCH --
02:44:32.796 --> 02:44:34.497
TO SUMMER ISSUE AS WELL OF THIS
02:44:34.564 --> 02:44:36.132
SIMPLY DOES TWO THINGS HAVE
02:44:36.199 --> 02:44:36.733
REDUCING --
02:44:36.800 --> 02:44:39.202
THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK AND
02:44:39.269 --> 02:44:41.538
ADDRESSING THE RECIDIVISM ISSUES
02:44:41.605 --> 02:44:43.807
AS WELL SO HAVING ITS MULTI
02:44:43.873 --> 02:44:44.774
PRONGED APPROACH IN RESPECTFULLY
02:44:44.841 --> 02:44:46.376
ASK RIGHT VOTE GOOD THANK YOU
02:44:46.443 --> 02:44:48.511
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
02:44:48.578 --> 02:44:49.279
YES BUT MY NAME IS JAIL MYRICK
02:44:49.346 --> 02:44:50.647
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR IN --
02:44:50.714 --> 02:44:51.681
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON WHAT THAT
02:44:51.748 --> 02:44:53.250
YOU SPEAK ME LAW CENTER AND WE
02:44:53.316 --> 02:44:54.985
WERE ONE OF THE CO SPONSORS OF
02:44:55.051 --> 02:44:56.686
THIS BILL BECAUSE OF A LOT OF
02:44:56.753 --> 02:44:57.220
WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH OUR
02:44:57.287 --> 02:44:58.288
CLIENTS --
02:44:58.355 --> 02:45:00.423
WHO WERE GETTING HIRED FOR JOBS
02:45:00.490 --> 02:45:01.791
BEING A?
02:45:01.858 --> 02:45:03.193
QUALIFIED FOR JOBS WITH BEING
02:45:03.260 --> 02:45:04.694
DENIED ON THE LICENSURE --
02:45:04.761 --> 02:45:05.362
PORTION OF AND I WANT TO
02:45:05.428 --> 02:45:08.698
INTRODUCE LA ONE OF OUR CLIENTS
02:45:08.765 --> 02:45:10.066
ON TO TELL HIS STORY REVIEW
02:45:10.133 --> 02:45:12.068
THANK YOU MISTER HARVEY WELCOME.
02:45:12.135 --> 02:45:14.904
THANK YOU ON CHERRY HILL ARM AND
02:45:14.971 --> 02:45:16.740
COMMITTEE MEMBERS FROM IRAQI
02:45:16.806 --> 02:45:19.342
SHARED MY STORY WITH YOU AND WHY
02:45:19.409 --> 02:45:21.711
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT --
02:45:21.778 --> 02:45:25.081
THIS A. B. BILL TWENTY ONE
02:45:25.148 --> 02:45:26.783
THIRTY EIGHT TO ME AS WELL AS A
02:45:26.850 --> 02:45:28.985
LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE.
02:45:29.052 --> 02:45:30.420
IN NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT I
02:45:30.487 --> 02:45:32.389
PASSED MY REAL ESTATE EGGS OUT.
02:45:32.455 --> 02:45:34.057
AND NINETEEN NINETY NINE I WORK
02:45:34.124 --> 02:45:35.759
FOR ONE OF THE LARGEST REALIST
02:45:35.825 --> 02:45:37.160
COMMERCIAL STATE COMPANIES AND
02:45:37.227 --> 02:45:40.163
THE SPACE --
02:45:40.230 --> 02:45:41.998
Y. WAS WORKING FOR THAT ARM.
02:45:42.065 --> 02:45:43.333
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE COMPANY
02:45:43.400 --> 02:45:45.268
ELECTED PLAY OUT A FEW
02:45:45.335 --> 02:45:48.438
ACHIEVEMENTS THAT I'VE EARNED --
02:45:48.505 --> 02:45:50.407
I RECEIVE THE FASTEST ON REWARD.
02:45:50.473 --> 02:45:51.708
FOR CLOSING THE FASTEST DEAL IN
02:45:51.775 --> 02:45:53.343
THE COMPANY'S HISTORY WITHIN
02:45:53.410 --> 02:45:54.678
THREE WEEKS I FINALLY SEE COSTA
02:45:54.744 --> 02:45:55.779
DEL.
02:45:55.845 --> 02:45:58.782
BETWEEN.
02:45:58.848 --> 02:45:59.349
NINETEEN NINETY NINE TO TWO
02:45:59.416 --> 02:46:00.417
THOUSAND FOUR I TRY EARNED
02:46:00.483 --> 02:46:02.686
SEVERAL TOPPLED ON FULLER OF THE
02:46:02.752 --> 02:46:03.720
MONTH AWARDS AND WE HAD ABOUT A
02:46:03.787 --> 02:46:07.624
HUNDRED AND HUNDRED TWO HUNDRED
02:46:07.691 --> 02:46:08.224
FIFTEEN SEASON BROKERS AT THAT
02:46:08.291 --> 02:46:11.494
POINT.
02:46:11.561 --> 02:46:15.098
I NEGOTIATED A DEAL IN
02:46:15.165 --> 02:46:17.600
200-043-0000 SQUARE FOOT. THIRTY
02:46:17.667 --> 02:46:20.136
YEAR DEAL THAT THE COMPANY SAW
02:46:20.203 --> 02:46:22.639
THERE WAS IMPORTANT OFTEN THEY
02:46:22.706 --> 02:46:24.474
ADVERTISE IT IN THE ON THE SPADE
02:46:24.541 --> 02:46:25.942
BUSINESS TYPES.
02:46:26.009 --> 02:46:26.776
SO.
02:46:26.843 --> 02:46:29.813
A SINGLE MOMENT IN TWO THOUSAND
02:46:29.879 --> 02:46:30.680
SIX I WAS CONVICTED FOR MISTER
02:46:30.747 --> 02:46:32.182
BANNER DUE TO AN EXTREME
02:46:32.248 --> 02:46:33.850
PERSONAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
02:46:33.917 --> 02:46:35.418
I WAS ABLE TO TERMINATE THAT
02:46:35.485 --> 02:46:37.487
PROBATION EARLY AND IT WAS AND
02:46:37.554 --> 02:46:40.557
DOVE DISMISSED THE CONVICTION --
02:46:40.623 --> 02:46:41.825
BECAUSE OF THE CONVICTION MY
02:46:41.891 --> 02:46:43.126
LICENSE WAS IMPACTED.
02:46:43.193 --> 02:46:44.861
IN MY CAREER OPPORTUNITIES IN
02:46:44.928 --> 02:46:45.829
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE WAS
02:46:45.895 --> 02:46:49.366
BASICALLY --
02:46:49.432 --> 02:46:50.333
I HAD NO WORK OPPORTUNITY
02:46:50.400 --> 02:46:52.836
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.
02:46:52.902 --> 02:46:54.771
SO SINCE THEN I'VE BEEN I'VE
02:46:54.838 --> 02:46:56.172
BEEN TRYING [inaudible]
02:46:56.239 --> 02:46:57.841
TO FROM.
02:46:57.907 --> 02:47:00.043
GET BACK INTO THE REAL ESTATE
02:47:00.110 --> 02:47:01.544
INDUSTRY BECAUSE THE PASSION OF
02:47:01.611 --> 02:47:01.745
MINE.
02:47:01.811 --> 02:47:03.313
DRIVE.
02:47:03.380 --> 02:47:04.914
IT TWO THOUSAND NINE I ENDED UP
02:47:04.981 --> 02:47:06.149
GOING BACK TO SCHOOL SO THICK I
02:47:06.216 --> 02:47:07.617
COULD BECOME MORE MARKETABLE.
02:47:07.684 --> 02:47:10.920
I ENDED UP GOING.
02:47:10.987 --> 02:47:13.323
TO A GIVEN MY ASSOCIATE DEGREE.
02:47:13.390 --> 02:47:14.124
AND AYE TRANSFERRED TO SEVEN
02:47:14.190 --> 02:47:15.058
SCHOOL STATE UNIVERSITY WHERE I
02:47:15.125 --> 02:47:15.759
GOT MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN
02:47:15.825 --> 02:47:16.860
BUSINESS [inaudible]
02:47:16.926 --> 02:47:21.464
AND SO WITH OVER FIVE YEARS OF
02:47:21.531 --> 02:47:22.899
POLICING.
02:47:22.966 --> 02:47:25.702
AND SALES IN ADDITION.
02:47:25.769 --> 02:47:28.805
TO YEARS OF HIGHER EDUCATION.
02:47:28.872 --> 02:47:29.672
THE DOOR TO MY SIDE WITH THAT
02:47:29.739 --> 02:47:32.075
ONE MOMENT IN TIME.
02:47:32.142 --> 02:47:32.942
THAT ONE MOMENT FIFTH
02:47:33.009 --> 02:47:34.244
OVERSHADOWS EVERYTHING THAT I'VE
02:47:34.310 --> 02:47:36.112
DONE AND ALL THE ACHIEVEMENTS
02:47:36.179 --> 02:47:38.047
THAT I'VE BECAUSE I'M DONE.
02:47:38.114 --> 02:47:41.818
AND JUST RECENTLY I TWO THOUSAND
02:47:41.885 --> 02:47:45.588
EIGHTEEN I APPLIED FOR STUDY AND
02:47:45.655 --> 02:47:47.891
PASS MY INSURANCE A LICENSE.
02:47:47.957 --> 02:47:49.526
BUT NO RESTRICTIONS AND SO.
02:47:49.592 --> 02:47:51.628
I JUST WANTED TO ARMED.
02:47:51.694 --> 02:47:52.796
THANK YOU GUYS REALLY FOR ALLOW
02:47:52.862 --> 02:47:54.230
ME TO DO THIS BECAUSE THIS IS
02:47:54.297 --> 02:47:56.699
IMPORTANT TO ME A LOT OF OTHER
02:47:56.766 --> 02:47:59.602
PEOPLE AND DISCOURAGE YOU GUYS
02:47:59.669 --> 02:48:00.537
TO VOTE FOR THIS ALIEN MCCARTY
02:48:00.603 --> 02:48:01.504
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND
02:48:01.571 --> 02:48:02.539
SHARING YOUR STORY THAT'S VERY
02:48:02.605 --> 02:48:03.606
IMPACTFUL [inaudible]
02:48:03.673 --> 02:48:05.141
THANKS.
02:48:05.208 --> 02:48:05.742
OTHERS IN SUPPORT PLEASE COME
02:48:05.809 --> 02:48:07.844
FORWARD.
02:48:07.911 --> 02:48:08.511
AND I A CHILD ACLU OF CALIFORNIA
02:48:08.578 --> 02:48:09.546
IN SUPPORT [inaudible]
02:48:09.612 --> 02:48:12.549
THANK YOU.
02:48:12.615 --> 02:48:13.149
THE GOOD MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
02:48:13.216 --> 02:48:14.984
MITCH SNIDER WITH CALIFORNIA
02:48:15.051 --> 02:48:15.819
LABOR FEDERATION ALSO IT'S WORTH
02:48:15.885 --> 02:48:18.288
THANK YOU.
02:48:18.354 --> 02:48:19.155
MARIA GARCIA BEHALF OF THE
02:48:19.222 --> 02:48:20.223
LANDSCAPE CONTRACTORS
02:48:20.290 --> 02:48:21.324
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT MAKE YOU
02:48:21.391 --> 02:48:23.092
VERY MUCH.
02:48:23.159 --> 02:48:24.294
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS SABINA
02:48:24.360 --> 02:48:25.728
CRUSADING ON HERE ON BEHALF OF
02:48:25.795 --> 02:48:26.796
LEGAL SERVICES REPRESENTS THE
02:48:26.863 --> 02:48:29.132
CHILDREN ALL OF US ARE NINE
02:48:29.199 --> 02:48:29.399
INSTITUTE.
02:48:29.466 --> 02:48:31.568
THANK YOU.
02:48:31.634 --> 02:48:33.236
ERICA KANE QUAN ON BEHALF OF
02:48:33.303 --> 02:48:34.471
POLICY LINK IN THE ALLIANCE FOR
02:48:34.537 --> 02:48:35.738
BOYS AND MEN OF COLOR IN SUPPORT
02:48:35.805 --> 02:48:37.006
THINK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:48:37.073 --> 02:48:37.874
REBECCA GONZALEZ NATIONAL
02:48:37.941 --> 02:48:39.676
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
02:48:39.742 --> 02:48:40.443
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN SUPPORT.
02:48:40.510 --> 02:48:43.513
THANK YOU.
02:48:43.580 --> 02:48:44.180
MELISSA AND MO WITH SHAW USER
02:48:44.247 --> 02:48:45.582
AND THREE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
02:48:45.648 --> 02:48:46.382
AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO IN
02:48:46.449 --> 02:48:48.218
SUPPORT YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
02:48:48.284 --> 02:48:50.420
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
02:48:50.487 --> 02:48:51.120
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
02:48:51.187 --> 02:48:54.257
OPPOSITION PLEASE COME FORWARD.
02:48:54.324 --> 02:48:57.894
I THINK --
02:48:57.961 --> 02:48:59.329
GENTLEMAN ON THE SIDE IF YOU IF.
02:48:59.395 --> 02:49:01.130
YOU COULD LISA.
02:49:01.197 --> 02:49:02.098
IT WILL OF THEM TO SIT DOWN
02:49:02.165 --> 02:49:12.041
THANK YOU.
02:49:12.108 --> 02:49:14.677
THANK YOU AWAY.
02:49:14.744 --> 02:49:15.512
WE'VE.
02:49:15.578 --> 02:49:16.279
GOT AFTERNOON CARE HEALTH I'M
02:49:16.346 --> 02:49:17.480
KIM MANSON I'M THE EXECUTIVE
02:49:17.547 --> 02:49:18.515
OFFICER OF THE BOARD OF
02:49:18.581 --> 02:49:19.916
BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES.
02:49:19.983 --> 02:49:21.217
AND WE LICENSED PROFESSIONAL
02:49:21.284 --> 02:49:22.952
CLINICAL COUNSELORS MARRIAGE AND
02:49:23.019 --> 02:49:24.087
FAMILY THERE.
02:49:24.153 --> 02:49:26.022
THERAPISTS AND CLINICAL SOCIAL
02:49:26.089 --> 02:49:26.956
WORKERS AND EDUCATIONAL
02:49:27.023 --> 02:49:28.892
PSYCHOLOGIST --
02:49:28.958 --> 02:49:30.927
OUR BOARD I'M HAS ADOPTED AND
02:49:30.994 --> 02:49:32.428
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED POSITION
02:49:32.495 --> 02:49:33.329
ON THIS BILL.
02:49:33.396 --> 02:49:35.164
WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF
02:49:35.231 --> 02:49:36.866
PROVIDING CAREER OPPORTUNITIES
02:49:36.933 --> 02:49:38.401
TO PREVIOUSLY INCARCERATED
02:49:38.468 --> 02:49:39.903
INDIVIDUALS.
02:49:39.969 --> 02:49:41.037
YET THE PRACTICE OF
02:49:41.104 --> 02:49:43.806
PSYCHOTHERAPY ONE ON ONE BEHIND
02:49:43.873 --> 02:49:44.941
CLOSED DOORS WITH BOTH ROPES
02:49:45.008 --> 02:49:46.509
CLIENTS REQUIRES A HIGHER LEVEL
02:49:46.576 --> 02:49:49.312
OF SCRUTINY IN ORDER TO INSURE
02:49:49.379 --> 02:49:51.047
OUR LEGISLATIVE MANDATE. TO
02:49:51.114 --> 02:49:52.482
PROTECT CONSUMERS.
02:49:52.549 --> 02:49:54.617
IF AB TWENTY ONE THIRTY EIGHT
02:49:54.684 --> 02:49:55.552
WERE -- TO
02:49:55.618 --> 02:49:58.621
SUCCEED AND BECOME LAW --
02:49:58.688 --> 02:50:00.423
LOOKING AT OUR STATISTICS FROM
02:50:00.490 --> 02:50:03.626
FISCAL YEAR SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN WE
02:50:03.693 --> 02:50:04.227
RECEIVED OVER SEVEN THOUSAND
02:50:04.294 --> 02:50:06.996
APPLICATIONS. FOR REGISTRATION
02:50:07.063 --> 02:50:09.799
AND LICENSURE OUT OF THAT NUMBER
02:50:09.866 --> 02:50:11.134
SIXTEEN WERE DENIED AND APPEALED
02:50:11.200 --> 02:50:13.269
OUT OF THAT NUMBER FIFTEEN
02:50:13.336 --> 02:50:14.337
INDIVIDUALS FOR PLACED ON
02:50:14.404 --> 02:50:16.005
PROBATIN WITH SPECIFIC TERMS
02:50:16.072 --> 02:50:18.341
AND CONDITIONS. ONE INDIVIDUAL
02:50:18.408 --> 02:50:21.778
WHAT THE DENIAL WAS UPHELD.
02:50:21.844 --> 02:50:23.646
UNDER AB TWENTY ONE THIRTY EIGHT
02:50:23.713 --> 02:50:24.180
WE WOULD HAVE ONLY HAD THE
02:50:24.247 --> 02:50:26.883
ABILITY TO DENY THREE OF THOSE.
02:50:26.950 --> 02:50:28.585
APPLICANT THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND
02:50:28.651 --> 02:50:30.520
SOME OF THE CONVICTIONS THAT --
02:50:30.587 --> 02:50:31.955
WE WERE REVIEWING WHICH IS
02:50:32.021 --> 02:50:33.990
CONCERNING THIS FORGERY
02:50:34.057 --> 02:50:36.259
INSURANCE FRAUD --
02:50:36.326 --> 02:50:37.961
ONE INDIVIDUAL HAD A FIFTY ONE
02:50:38.027 --> 02:50:39.329
FIFTY HOLD RECOMMENDATION
02:50:39.395 --> 02:50:40.763
ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON
02:50:40.830 --> 02:50:41.965
BURGLARY GRAND THEFT
02:50:42.031 --> 02:50:43.733
EMBEZZLEMENT.
02:50:43.800 --> 02:50:46.469
A AND INDECENT EXPOSURE AND
02:50:46.536 --> 02:50:47.604
MULTIPLE PATTERNS OF DO YOU AYE
02:50:47.670 --> 02:50:50.073
AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE --
02:50:50.139 --> 02:50:50.773
AND THE SAME PATTERN WOULD
02:50:50.840 --> 02:50:52.275
CONTINUE IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT
02:50:52.342 --> 02:50:54.544
OUR SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN STATS.
02:50:54.611 --> 02:50:56.279
THE BOARD HAS RESPECTFULLY ASK
02:50:56.346 --> 02:50:58.348
THAT WE BE REMOVED FROM THE BILL
02:50:58.414 --> 02:51:00.717
TO THE NATURE OF OUR PROFESSION.
02:51:00.783 --> 02:51:02.251
AND WE WOULD.
02:51:02.318 --> 02:51:04.487
WE'RE VERY MUCH SUPPORT THE DATA
02:51:04.554 --> 02:51:05.955
COLLECTION PROVISION OF THISBILL.
02:51:06.022 --> 02:51:07.323
I'M SO THAT WE CAN EXAMINE OUR
02:51:07.390 --> 02:51:08.524
TRENDS AND PERHAPS IMPROVE OUR
02:51:08.591 --> 02:51:09.692
PROCESS.
02:51:09.759 --> 02:51:13.363
AND SO ON I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY
02:51:13.429 --> 02:51:14.330
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ANY
02:51:14.397 --> 02:51:15.064
APPRECIATE THAT THE OTHERS IN
02:51:15.131 --> 02:51:17.166
OPPOSITION.
02:51:17.233 --> 02:51:17.967
WE GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRPERSON
02:51:18.034 --> 02:51:19.102
HELENA STEAM SENATORS --
02:51:19.168 --> 02:51:20.403
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
02:51:20.470 --> 02:51:22.438
TESTIFY ON AB TWENTY ONE THIRTY
02:51:22.505 --> 02:51:23.373
TODAY MY NAME IS DOMINIC FRIENDS
02:51:23.439 --> 02:51:24.907
ALLAH AND I'M THE CHIEF OF
02:51:24.974 --> 02:51:26.042
ENFORCEMENT FOR THE CALIFORNIA
02:51:26.109 --> 02:51:27.076
BOARD OF ACCOUNTANCY.
02:51:27.143 --> 02:51:28.611
WHO LICENSE SURVIVE PUBLIC
02:51:28.678 --> 02:51:30.380
ACCOUNTANTS AND DOES SOME OF THE
02:51:30.446 --> 02:51:31.881
LARGEST ACCOUNTING FIRMS?
02:51:31.948 --> 02:51:33.583
ARE IN THE COUNTRY POLICY VIS A
02:51:33.650 --> 02:51:34.951
BELIEVES THE AUTHORS AND THE
02:51:35.018 --> 02:51:36.285
SPONSORS GOALS OF ENSURING
02:51:36.352 --> 02:51:37.820
INDIVIDUALS WITH CERTAIN PRIOR
02:51:37.887 --> 02:51:38.721
BAD ACTS.
02:51:38.788 --> 02:51:40.623
ARE NOT IN SOME WAY PERMANENTLY
02:51:40.690 --> 02:51:41.824
IMPEDED FROM OBTAINING LICENSURE
02:51:41.891 --> 02:51:43.726
IS A VERY LAUDABLE GOAL AS LONG
02:51:43.793 --> 02:51:44.327
AS ITS BALANCE WITH CONSUMER
02:51:44.394 --> 02:51:45.028
PROTECTION.
02:51:45.094 --> 02:51:46.629
OF THE AMENDMENTS OFFERED BY
02:51:46.696 --> 02:51:47.864
THIS COMMITTEE STAFF GO A LONG
02:51:47.930 --> 02:51:49.499
WAY TO ADDRESSING MANY OF THE
02:51:49.565 --> 02:51:49.966
CONCERNS THE BOARD OF
02:51:50.033 --> 02:51:51.100
ACCOUNTANCY HAD.
02:51:51.167 --> 02:51:51.968
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK
02:51:52.035 --> 02:51:54.871
COMMITTEE STAFFER TAKING UP.
02:51:54.937 --> 02:51:55.772
YET EVEN WITH THESE PROPOSED
02:51:55.838 --> 02:51:57.306
COMMITTEE STAFF AMENDMENTS THERE
02:51:57.373 --> 02:51:59.342
ARE SEVERAL KEY AREAS OF THE CBA
02:51:59.409 --> 02:52:00.643
WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE CONCERN
02:52:00.710 --> 02:52:01.177
WITH.
02:52:01.244 --> 02:52:01.944
OF WHICH I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT ARE
02:52:02.011 --> 02:52:04.647
A COUPLE --
02:52:04.714 --> 02:52:06.049
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT --
02:52:06.115 --> 02:52:07.517
IT TENDS TO EXPAND THE TYPES OF
02:52:07.583 --> 02:52:09.252
SERIOUS FELLER FELONIES TO
02:52:09.318 --> 02:52:11.054
SERIOUS FELONIES ARM.
02:52:11.120 --> 02:52:12.622
THERE'S REALLY NO DEFINITION AS
02:52:12.689 --> 02:52:14.090
TO WHAT THAT IS AS IT WAS WITHIN
02:52:14.157 --> 02:52:15.725
THE ORIGINAL --
02:52:15.792 --> 02:52:17.560
BILL AND FOR THE BOARD OF
02:52:17.627 --> 02:52:18.895
ACCOUNTANCY MANY OF THESE WOULD
02:52:18.961 --> 02:52:20.530
BE LIKE FINANCIAL BASED CRIMES
02:52:20.596 --> 02:52:21.397
WHICH WE WOULD HAVE SOME SERIOUS
02:52:21.464 --> 02:52:22.532
CONCERN WITH THAT WOULD WANT TO
02:52:22.598 --> 02:52:23.900
SEE BE INCLUDED IN THE BILL IN
02:52:23.966 --> 02:52:25.268
SOME WAY.
02:52:25.334 --> 02:52:26.335
OUR THE BILL ONTINUES TO
02:52:26.402 --> 02:52:28.171
ELIMINATE A A BOARD'S ABILITY TO
02:52:28.237 --> 02:52:29.739
DENY LICENSURE FOR ACTS OF
02:52:29.806 --> 02:52:31.974
DISHONESTY FRAUD DECEIT OR OTHER
02:52:32.041 --> 02:52:33.376
TYPES OF DENIAL --
02:52:33.443 --> 02:52:35.178
WHICH SHOULD BE OUT WHICH ARE
02:52:35.244 --> 02:52:37.080
CURRENTLY OFFER TO THE BOARD --
02:52:37.146 --> 02:52:37.847
THERE'S FOR THE WATER COUNTY
02:52:37.914 --> 02:52:39.716
COULD BE SUCH AS THE SECURITIES
02:52:39.782 --> 02:52:41.017
EXCHANGE COMMISSION.
02:52:41.084 --> 02:52:42.452
DENYING REVOKING INDIVIDUALS
02:52:42.518 --> 02:52:44.620
ABILITY TO PRACTICE BEFORE THEM
02:52:44.687 --> 02:52:46.355
YET BEEN ABLE TO APPLY FOR
02:52:46.422 --> 02:52:48.424
LICENSURE AND I'LL BE OFFERED A
02:52:48.491 --> 02:52:50.159
LICENSE HERE IN CALIFORNIA --
02:52:50.226 --> 02:52:51.160
THE BILL WOULD ALSO PROHIBIT THE
02:52:51.227 --> 02:52:52.428
BOARD FROM REQUIRING THE
02:52:52.495 --> 02:52:53.529
LICENSEE TO SELF REPORT
02:52:53.596 --> 02:52:55.164
CONVICTIONS AND RELY SOLELY ON
02:52:55.231 --> 02:52:56.499
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OUR
02:52:56.566 --> 02:52:58.034
CRIMINAL OFFENDER RECORD
02:52:58.101 --> 02:53:00.269
INFORMATION WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS.
02:53:00.336 --> 02:53:02.672
ARE COMPLETE ALUM AND LASTLY THE
02:53:02.739 --> 02:53:04.107
CBO BELIEVES SOME TYPE OF
02:53:04.173 --> 02:53:05.241
DELAYED IMPLEMENTATION MAY BE
02:53:05.308 --> 02:53:06.342
PRUDENT TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN
02:53:06.409 --> 02:53:07.376
ADOPT ANY --
02:53:07.443 --> 02:53:09.245
APPROPRIATE REGULATIONS OR AT A
02:53:09.312 --> 02:53:11.114
MINIMUM --
02:53:11.180 --> 02:53:12.582
MAKING SURE THAT ANY ARM
02:53:12.648 --> 02:53:14.951
REGULATORY PROMULGATION OF ANY
02:53:15.017 --> 02:53:16.018
REGULATIONS --
02:53:16.085 --> 02:53:18.154
CAN BE CONSIDERED EMERGENCY
02:53:18.221 --> 02:53:19.756
REGULATION IF NECESSARY.
02:53:19.822 --> 02:53:21.090
BECAUSE OF THE CBA LOOKS FORWARD
02:53:21.157 --> 02:53:22.725
TO WORKING WITH THE AUTHORS IN
02:53:22.792 --> 02:53:23.926
THE SPONSORS ON THIS BILL BY
02:53:23.993 --> 02:53:25.762
WITH A BALANCING OF THE GOALS.
02:53:25.828 --> 02:53:26.863
THEY'VE STATED AS WELL AS
02:53:26.929 --> 02:53:27.630
CONSUMER PROTECTION AND THANK
02:53:27.697 --> 02:53:28.965
YOU VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY
02:53:29.031 --> 02:53:30.933
MUCH IN BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE
02:53:31.000 --> 02:53:32.068
NEXT WITNESS THAT I COULD
02:53:32.135 --> 02:53:34.771
ESTABLISH A QUORUM SINCE WE DO
02:53:34.837 --> 02:53:35.404
HAVE WITH THE ASSISTANCE PLEASE
02:53:35.471 --> 02:53:36.906
CALL THE ROLL.
02:53:36.973 --> 02:53:38.775
WELL HERE BILL HERE FULLER
02:53:38.841 --> 02:53:39.075
[inaudible]
02:53:39.142 --> 02:53:40.409
ALAN [inaudible]
02:53:40.476 --> 02:53:42.779
DODD.
02:53:42.845 --> 02:53:44.680
I HEAR ALGIANI GALGIANI HERE
02:53:44.747 --> 02:53:47.517
GLAZER HERNANDEZ FERNANDES HERE
02:53:47.583 --> 02:53:50.219
PAN HERE CAN HEAR WELL.
02:53:50.286 --> 02:53:51.354
VERY GOOD WITH ESTABLISHED A
02:53:51.420 --> 02:53:52.155
QUORUM NOW PLEASE SAID OTHERS IN
02:53:52.221 --> 02:53:55.191
OPPOSITION. FOR MORE WITH THEIR
02:53:55.258 --> 02:53:56.726
BOARD PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS
02:53:56.793 --> 02:53:58.161
ANSWERS AND SHALL JUST WE
02:53:58.227 --> 02:53:59.428
APPRECIATE THEIR AUTHORS OFFICE
02:53:59.495 --> 02:54:01.030
AND STAFF REACHING OUT SEEKING
02:54:01.097 --> 02:54:03.533
INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON THIS
02:54:03.599 --> 02:54:04.934
PROPOSALS.
02:54:05.001 --> 02:54:07.036
THE BOARD VOTED AND A FRAUD OR
02:54:07.103 --> 02:54:08.805
BOARD MEETING TO OPPOSE THIS
02:54:08.871 --> 02:54:10.940
BILL DUH MAY RIVER AMENDMENTS
02:54:11.007 --> 02:54:12.475
AND THE MOST RECENT CONCEPTUAL
02:54:12.542 --> 02:54:14.510
AMENDMENTS.
02:54:14.577 --> 02:54:15.745
DO IT FROM THE COMMITTEE
02:54:15.812 --> 02:54:16.646
ANALYSIS DO ADDRESS SOME OF THE
02:54:16.712 --> 02:54:18.214
BOARDS CONCERNS.
02:54:18.281 --> 02:54:19.582
HOWEVER THERE ARE SOME THEY'RE
02:54:19.649 --> 02:54:21.450
RELATED TO THE GROUNDS WHICH
02:54:21.517 --> 02:54:22.585
BOARD COULD USE THAT DENIAL
02:54:22.652 --> 02:54:24.020
LICENSE.
02:54:24.086 --> 02:54:25.855
SPECIFICALLY OUR FELONIES THAT
02:54:25.922 --> 02:54:26.622
ARE RELATED TO PROFESSIONS
02:54:26.689 --> 02:54:28.925
ABOARD REGULATES OUR FOR
02:54:28.991 --> 02:54:30.259
CONSIDERATION SUCH AS FALSE
02:54:30.326 --> 02:54:31.661
REPORTS DOCUMENTS THE PUBLIC
02:54:31.727 --> 02:54:34.130
AGENCY FRAUD EMBEZZLEMENT AND
02:54:34.197 --> 02:54:36.432
DIVERSION OF PUBLIC FUNDS.
02:54:36.499 --> 02:54:37.633
WE WOULD --
02:54:37.700 --> 02:54:38.534
WE'D BE OPEN TO CONTINUE WORK
02:54:38.601 --> 02:54:40.102
WITH THE AUTHORS OFFICE TO WORK
02:54:40.169 --> 02:54:42.438
ON ADDING THOSE THEM AND THINK
02:54:42.505 --> 02:54:44.106
THAT'S HELPFUL IN TERMS OF THE
02:54:44.173 --> 02:54:45.341
PUBLIC'S IT BEST INTERESTS THANK
02:54:45.408 --> 02:54:45.908
YOU VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY
02:54:45.975 --> 02:54:47.577
MUCH.
02:54:47.643 --> 02:54:48.344
JENNIFER SUMMERS OF THE MEDICAL
02:54:48.411 --> 02:54:49.912
BOARD OF CALIFORNIA THE BOARD
02:54:49.979 --> 02:54:51.480
AND IS CURRENTLY OPPOSED BUT WE
02:54:51.547 --> 02:54:52.682
WANT TO THANK THE AND COMMITTEE
02:54:52.748 --> 02:54:54.817
STAFF IN THE AUTHORS FIRST AND
02:54:54.884 --> 02:54:55.785
TAKING THE MOMENTS LATER TODAY.
02:54:55.852 --> 02:54:57.053
THE ADDRESS MANY OF THE BOARD'S
02:54:57.119 --> 02:54:59.088
CONCERNS AND SO WE'RE GOING TO
02:54:59.155 --> 02:55:00.022
BE TAKING THIS BILL BACK TOWARD
02:55:00.089 --> 02:55:01.557
BORING JULY BUT WE DO THINK
02:55:01.624 --> 02:55:03.159
THERE COULD STEP IN THE RIGHT
02:55:03.226 --> 02:55:05.027
DIRECTION NUCLEAR GOOD THANK YOU.
02:55:05.094 --> 02:55:06.128
JASON CLASSICAL WITH THE
02:55:06.195 --> 02:55:07.964
CALIFORNIA BORDER PSYCHOLOGY ARE
02:55:08.030 --> 02:55:09.632
WE CURRENTLY HAVE LESS THAN 1%
02:55:09.699 --> 02:55:12.168
OF DENIAL RATE AND WE REMAIN IN
02:55:12.235 --> 02:55:15.037
OPPOSITION TO THE VERY THANK YOU.
02:55:15.104 --> 02:55:16.939
STACY BERMAN BOARD OF REGISTERED
02:55:17.006 --> 02:55:18.574
NURSING A PORTRAIT OF HOUSE IN
02:55:18.641 --> 02:55:19.575
LOS AMENDED POSITION ON THIS
02:55:19.642 --> 02:55:20.910
BELT BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THE
02:55:20.977 --> 02:55:21.677
AMENDMENTS HAVE IT MADE.
02:55:21.744 --> 02:55:23.279
IN THE BILL AND WE LOOK FORWARD
02:55:23.346 --> 02:55:24.847
TO WORKING WITH AT THE AUTHORS
02:55:24.914 --> 02:55:26.349
OFFICE TO MAKE ADDITIONAL
02:55:26.415 --> 02:55:27.917
CHANGES THANK YOU.
02:55:27.984 --> 02:55:28.417
MISTER CHAIRMANRICHARD
02:55:28.484 --> 02:55:29.752
MARCUSSEN ON BEHALF OF THE
02:55:29.819 --> 02:55:30.887
WESTERN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS
02:55:30.953 --> 02:55:32.188
ASSOCIATION OF PLUMBING HEATING
02:55:32.255 --> 02:55:33.723
COOLING CONTRACTORS OF
02:55:33.789 --> 02:55:34.523
CALIFORNIA.
02:55:34.590 --> 02:55:35.091
CENTRAL CALIFORNIA SOUTHERN
02:55:35.157 --> 02:55:38.294
CALIFORNIA.
02:55:38.361 --> 02:55:38.794
ASSOCIATE BUILDERS AND
02:55:38.861 --> 02:55:40.229
CONTRACTORS WERE OPPOSED TO THE
02:55:40.296 --> 02:55:41.464
BILL WE THINK THE DEPARTMENT OF
02:55:41.530 --> 02:55:42.999
CONSUMER AFFAIRS IS DOING A GOOD
02:55:43.065 --> 02:55:44.433
JOB AT A PARTICULAR THE
02:55:44.500 --> 02:55:46.035
CONTRACTORS STATE LICENSE BOARD
02:55:46.102 --> 02:55:46.702
WILL LOOK AT THE AMENDMENTS
02:55:46.769 --> 02:55:47.370
THANK YOU SIR.
02:55:47.436 --> 02:55:48.571
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OTHERS IN
02:55:48.638 --> 02:55:50.673
OPPOSITION.
02:55:50.740 --> 02:55:51.440
SEEING NO ONE THING ABOUT THE
02:55:51.507 --> 02:55:54.744
CAN QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
02:55:54.810 --> 02:55:57.813
BOORDA WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND THE
02:55:57.880 --> 02:56:00.383
ASSEMBLY VOTE SURE HAPPY TO WIN
02:56:00.449 --> 02:56:02.318
AND AND LET ME START PREACHING
02:56:02.385 --> 02:56:03.386
ACCEPTING ALL OF THEM AND
02:56:03.452 --> 02:56:04.353
ABSOLUTELY AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
02:56:04.420 --> 02:56:04.820
CONVERSATION --
02:56:04.887 --> 02:56:06.055
LATE FRIDAY AND I KNOW THAT
02:56:06.122 --> 02:56:06.789
AMENDMENTS --
02:56:06.856 --> 02:56:07.156
WERE REALLY --
02:56:07.223 --> 02:56:08.958
DISSEMINATED OVER THE LAST
02:56:09.025 --> 02:56:10.927
TWENTY FOUR HOURS SO I THINK MY
02:56:10.993 --> 02:56:12.561
COMMENTS ARE REALLY --
02:56:12.628 --> 02:56:14.163
ADDRESSING THE STATE OF THE BILL
02:56:14.230 --> 02:56:15.164
OF OF WHERE IT IS TODAY AND I
02:56:15.231 --> 02:56:16.165
KNOW THAT --
02:56:16.232 --> 02:56:17.466
WE'VE MET EXTENSIVELY WITH
02:56:17.533 --> 02:56:18.901
OPPOSITION TO TRY TO ADDRESS IT
02:56:18.968 --> 02:56:20.202
AND I THINK THAT THE MEMBERS OF
02:56:20.269 --> 02:56:21.070
THE COMMITTEE ASKED FOR REALLY
02:56:21.137 --> 02:56:22.371
GO LONG WAY OF DOING THAT.
02:56:22.438 --> 02:56:24.507
LET ME JUST MAKE A COUPLE POINTS
02:56:24.573 --> 02:56:26.208
ON THAT NOT INITIALLY THE THE
02:56:26.275 --> 02:56:26.943
BILL THAT PASSED FROM THE
02:56:27.009 --> 02:56:28.711
ASSEMBLY EXEMPTED VIOLENT
02:56:28.778 --> 02:56:30.713
FELONIES WE'VE EXPANDED THE LIST
02:56:30.780 --> 02:56:33.683
OF CRIMES. TO INCLUDE ANY CAMPUS
02:56:33.749 --> 02:56:35.117
SERIOUS FELONIES.
02:56:35.184 --> 02:56:36.452
THAT IS ACTUALLY DEFINED IN THE
02:56:36.519 --> 02:56:38.254
CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE FELONIES
02:56:38.321 --> 02:56:41.223
WOULD CHOIR AND I HEARD FROM
02:56:41.290 --> 02:56:42.458
SOME OF THE INITIAL --
02:56:42.525 --> 02:56:44.193
TESTIMONY FROM THE OPPOSITION --
02:56:44.260 --> 02:56:45.561
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CRIMES OF
02:56:45.628 --> 02:56:46.829
VIOLENCE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE
02:56:46.896 --> 02:56:48.497
CAPTURED UNDER THAT FROM ASSAULT
02:56:48.564 --> 02:56:49.799
WITH A DEADLY WEAPON.
02:56:49.865 --> 02:56:51.968
BURGLARY ECCENTRIC GO THROUGH
02:56:52.034 --> 02:56:52.568
THE LONG LIST WE CAN PROVIDE
02:56:52.635 --> 02:56:54.637
THAT -- TO
02:56:54.704 --> 02:56:55.304
TO THE COMMITTEE IF THAT IS SO
02:56:55.371 --> 02:56:57.406
DESIRED THE BILL THOUGH ALSO
02:56:57.473 --> 02:56:58.975
SAYS THAT NOT ONLY --
02:56:59.041 --> 02:57:00.710
IT NOT ONLY ARE CAN THOSE BILLS
02:57:00.776 --> 02:57:02.411
BEACON CAN THOSE CRIMES BE
02:57:02.478 --> 02:57:04.347
CONSIDERED A BUT ANY CRIME THAT
02:57:04.413 --> 02:57:06.582
IS SUBSTANTIALLY RELATED TO THE
02:57:06.649 --> 02:57:07.783
PROFESSION THE LICENSING BOARD
02:57:07.850 --> 02:57:09.151
OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAN
02:57:09.218 --> 02:57:10.019
ALSO BE CONSIDERED.
02:57:10.086 --> 02:57:11.420
THE BILL AS IT WAS PASSED BY THE
02:57:11.487 --> 02:57:13.055
ASSEMBLY REQUIRED THAT THAT
02:57:13.122 --> 02:57:14.790
NEXUS BE DIRECTLY UNIVERSITY
02:57:14.857 --> 02:57:16.425
RELATED --
02:57:16.492 --> 02:57:18.627
YOUR CHAIRMAN HAS ASKED US --
02:57:18.694 --> 02:57:19.929
TO TO TO DRAW THAT CENTER DOWN
02:57:19.996 --> 02:57:21.497
TO SUBSTANTIALLY RELATED I
02:57:21.564 --> 02:57:23.566
BELIEVE THAT CRIMES ARE LIKE
02:57:23.632 --> 02:57:26.335
FRAUD OR OR OTHER RELATED TO
02:57:26.402 --> 02:57:27.136
YOUR PROFESSION.
02:57:27.203 --> 02:57:28.704
UP WOULD BE ONE SET YOUR
02:57:28.771 --> 02:57:30.473
PROFESSION COULD CONSIDER OUR
02:57:30.539 --> 02:57:32.208
AND USE AS A BASIS TO DENY AND
02:57:32.274 --> 02:57:33.709
THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY PART OF WHAT
02:57:33.776 --> 02:57:34.677
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
02:57:34.744 --> 02:57:36.579
I WOULD ALSO JUST MENTION THAT --
02:57:36.645 --> 02:57:37.713
THE BILL IS PASSED BY THE
02:57:37.780 --> 02:57:38.547
ASSEMBLY SAID THAT ALL
02:57:38.614 --> 02:57:40.216
CONVICTIONS ARE THAT WERE FIVE
02:57:40.282 --> 02:57:42.051
YEARS AND OLDER --
02:57:42.118 --> 02:57:44.920
WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AGAIN
02:57:44.987 --> 02:57:45.921
THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE AMENDED
02:57:45.988 --> 02:57:48.557
IT TO BE SEVEN YEARS SO SO --
02:57:48.624 --> 02:57:50.326
WE'VE WE'VE MADE A NUMBER OF I
02:57:50.393 --> 02:57:51.127
THINK VERY SIGNIFICANT
02:57:51.193 --> 02:57:52.728
CONCESSIONS IN THE DIRECTION OF
02:57:52.795 --> 02:57:53.796
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
02:57:53.863 --> 02:57:55.197
ON THERE'S ALSO SUGGESTION I
02:57:55.264 --> 02:57:55.831
THINK FROM SOME OF THE
02:57:55.898 --> 02:57:57.033
COMMISSIONS THAT THIS DOES NOT
02:57:57.099 --> 02:57:59.135
HAPPEN OFTEN AND PART OF WHAT
02:57:59.201 --> 02:58:01.003
THIS BILL DOES IS IT REQUIRES
02:58:01.070 --> 02:58:02.338
DATA FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
02:58:02.405 --> 02:58:03.873
BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CLEAR
02:58:03.939 --> 02:58:06.175
STANDARDS IN THE LAW WE KNOW
02:58:06.242 --> 02:58:07.676
THERE MANY INDIVIDUALS OFTEN
02:58:07.743 --> 02:58:09.145
DON'T EVEN APPLY FOR LICENSES
02:58:09.211 --> 02:58:10.246
BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT
02:58:10.312 --> 02:58:11.347
THEY'RE GOING TO BE DENIED AND I
02:58:11.414 --> 02:58:13.015
THINK PART OF THE POINT OF THIS
02:58:13.082 --> 02:58:14.283
LOSS TO SAY.
02:58:14.350 --> 02:58:17.053
THERE ARE CERTAIN CATEGORIES OF
02:58:17.119 --> 02:58:19.388
NONVIOLENT NON SERIOUS OFFENSES
02:58:19.455 --> 02:58:20.623
THAT ARE OLDER THAN SEVEN YEARS
02:58:20.689 --> 02:58:22.058
ARE THAT ARE NOT SUBSTANTIALLY
02:58:22.124 --> 02:58:23.459
RELATED TO THE JOB THAT
02:58:23.526 --> 02:58:25.127
SOMEONE'S APPLYING.
02:58:25.194 --> 02:58:26.095
FOR THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED
02:58:26.162 --> 02:58:27.463
AND WE BELIEVE AGAIN THAT
02:58:27.530 --> 02:58:30.032
ADDRESSES ARE JOB OF MAKING SURE
02:58:30.099 --> 02:58:31.400
THATWE'RE PUTTING FOLKS TO WORK
02:58:31.467 --> 02:58:32.701
ARE HOPEFULLY HELPING THEM GET A
02:58:32.768 --> 02:58:33.936
LICENSE AND ADDRESSING CRIME AT
02:58:34.003 --> 02:58:35.504
THE SAME TIME SO WITH THAT AGAIN
02:58:35.571 --> 02:58:37.006
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR
02:58:37.073 --> 02:58:38.140
CONSIDERATION.
02:58:38.207 --> 02:58:40.276
AN ASTEROID OR GOOD THANK YOU
02:58:40.342 --> 02:58:42.812
ASSEMBLY AND SENATE BILL THAT WE
02:58:42.878 --> 02:58:43.846
HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR DODD --
02:58:43.913 --> 02:58:45.848
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
02:58:45.915 --> 02:58:47.516
SHE HAS TO PASS THE SENATE
02:58:47.583 --> 02:58:49.018
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HILL AYE
02:58:49.085 --> 02:58:50.786
HILL AYE FULLER.
02:58:50.853 --> 02:58:54.457
ALAN DOT AYE DODD AYE GALGIANI
02:58:54.523 --> 02:58:54.757
[inaudible]
02:58:54.824 --> 02:58:55.724
LASER [inaudible]
02:58:55.791 --> 02:59:01.163
HERNANDEZ AND WELL.
02:59:01.230 --> 02:59:02.798
THE BILL HAS TO VOTE TO END OF
02:59:02.865 --> 02:59:04.033
WILL HOLD THE RULE OPEN FOR
02:59:04.100 --> 02:59:05.434
ABSENT MEMBERS THINKING
02:59:05.501 --> 02:59:06.802
PERSONALLY VERY MUCH WITH THE
02:59:06.869 --> 02:59:07.603
TESTIMONY ASSEMBLY MEMBER LACKEY
02:59:07.670 --> 02:59:08.938
ITEM NUMBER.
02:59:09.004 --> 02:59:10.940
FOURTEEN AB TWENTY TWO FIFTY
02:59:11.006 --> 02:59:13.609
FIVE WELCOME.
02:59:13.676 --> 02:59:20.216
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
02:59:20.282 --> 02:59:21.550
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
02:59:21.617 --> 02:59:24.620
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENT AB.
02:59:24.687 --> 02:59:25.287
TWENTY TWO FIFTY FIVE WHICH IS A
02:59:25.354 --> 02:59:26.856
BILL THAT IS AIMED AT PROVIDING
02:59:26.922 --> 02:59:27.690
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHAT
02:59:27.756 --> 02:59:29.458
THE GUIDANCE WHEN THEY COUNTER
02:59:29.525 --> 02:59:30.693
CANNABIS DISTRIBUTOR.
02:59:30.759 --> 02:59:32.661
OR DELIVERY DRIVER.
02:59:32.728 --> 02:59:33.662
GOAL OF THIS BILL IS TO
02:59:33.729 --> 02:59:35.264
AUTHORIZE AN OFFICER TO ISSUE A
02:59:35.331 --> 02:59:36.198
FINE.
02:59:36.265 --> 02:59:37.566
ON BEHALF OF THE BUREAU IF THE
02:59:37.633 --> 02:59:39.535
DISTRIBUTOR DOES NOT HAVE A
02:59:39.602 --> 02:59:41.504
PHYSICAL MANIFEST WITH THEM.
02:59:41.570 --> 02:59:42.671
OR IF THEY FAILED TO SUBMIT THE
02:59:42.738 --> 02:59:43.706
REQUIRED INFORMATION TO TRACK
02:59:43.772 --> 02:59:45.741
AND TRACE.
02:59:45.808 --> 02:59:46.942
THE BILL ALSO AUTHORIZES THE
02:59:47.009 --> 02:59:48.677
FIND OF THE LICENSEE DOES NOT
02:59:48.744 --> 02:59:50.779
HAVE THEIR DELIVERY REQUEST.
02:59:50.846 --> 02:59:52.281
UNDER CURRENT LAW LICENSEES ARE
02:59:52.348 --> 02:59:53.716
REQUIRED TO HAVE THESE ITEMS
02:59:53.782 --> 02:59:56.085
WOULD TRANSPORTING CANNABIS.
02:59:56.152 --> 02:59:57.386
THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE CLEAR
02:59:57.453 --> 02:59:59.488
DISTINCTION THAT DIFFERENTIATES
02:59:59.555 --> 03:00:00.823
BETWEEN ILLEGAL OPERATOR AND
03:00:00.890 --> 03:00:03.225
THOSE BREAKING THE LAW.
03:00:03.292 --> 03:00:04.260
WE WANT OFFICERS TO BE CHECKING
03:00:04.326 --> 03:00:05.761
FOR THESE ITEMS.
03:00:05.828 --> 03:00:06.662
SO THEY CAN EASILY MAKE THE
03:00:06.729 --> 03:00:09.131
DISTINCTION.
03:00:09.198 --> 03:00:10.900
OF THOSE WHO HAVE A LICENSE FROM
03:00:10.966 --> 03:00:12.468
THE ILLICIT ACTOR.
03:00:12.535 --> 03:00:13.569
WE ALSO WANT TO BE SURE THE
03:00:13.636 --> 03:00:15.070
LICENSEES KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IS
03:00:15.137 --> 03:00:17.206
TO FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS.
03:00:17.273 --> 03:00:19.241
THAT IS WAY BE TWENTY TWO FIFTY
03:00:19.308 --> 03:00:20.075
FIVE ALSO CRIMINALIZES
03:00:20.142 --> 03:00:20.743
COUNTERFEITING A SHIPPING
03:00:20.809 --> 03:00:23.379
MANIFEST.
03:00:23.445 --> 03:00:25.414
AB TWENTY TO FIFTY FIVE ALSO
03:00:25.481 --> 03:00:27.016
PROVIDES DIRECTION FOR HOW
03:00:27.082 --> 03:00:28.050
OFFICER SHOULD RESPOND IN
03:00:28.117 --> 03:00:29.552
SITUATIONS WHERE HERE SHE MAY
03:00:29.618 --> 03:00:30.452
DISCOVER.
03:00:30.519 --> 03:00:32.087
THE DIVERSION OF A PRODUCT UNDER
03:00:32.154 --> 03:00:33.255
THE GUISE OF A LEGAL DISTRIBUTOR
03:00:33.322 --> 03:00:35.324
LICENSE.
03:00:35.391 --> 03:00:36.525
FIGURING OUT THE RIGHT POLICY
03:00:36.592 --> 03:00:37.293
FOR THESE SITUATIONS IS A
03:00:37.359 --> 03:00:38.761
CHALLENGE.
03:00:38.827 --> 03:00:39.862
AND HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE
03:00:39.929 --> 03:00:41.597
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE INDUSTRY A
03:00:41.664 --> 03:00:43.399
LAW ENFORCEMENT ABOUT HOW BEST
03:00:43.465 --> 03:00:45.401
TO ADDRESS THE SITUATIONS.
03:00:45.467 --> 03:00:47.469
I NOW TURN TO REPRESENTATIVE OF
03:00:47.536 --> 03:00:48.170
ROOM CANNABIS DISTRIBUTORS
03:00:48.237 --> 03:00:50.239
ASSOCIATION.
03:00:50.306 --> 03:00:51.974
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN
03:00:52.041 --> 03:00:53.409
MEMBERS AARON OR WHAT A BEHALF
03:00:53.475 --> 03:00:54.877
OF THE CANADA SITUATION
03:00:54.944 --> 03:00:55.611
ASSOCIATION.
03:00:55.678 --> 03:00:56.879
OF FIRST ONE I THINK THE AUTHOR
03:00:56.946 --> 03:00:58.180
AND IS STAFF FOR ALL OF THEIR
03:00:58.247 --> 03:01:00.082
WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT BILL IN
03:01:00.149 --> 03:01:01.717
THIS I'M IMPORTANT ISSUE.
03:01:01.784 --> 03:01:03.052
HOW WE FEEL THE PROVISIONS OF
03:01:03.118 --> 03:01:04.086
THIS BILL WILL HELP ENSURE
03:01:04.153 --> 03:01:05.688
LEGITIMATE LICENSE OPERATORS ARE
03:01:05.754 --> 03:01:07.156
ACTING WITHIN THE LAW?
03:01:07.223 --> 03:01:08.624
AND THEN ALSO SERVE AS A
03:01:08.691 --> 03:01:10.926
DETERRENT FOR THOSE HIGH AND
03:01:10.993 --> 03:01:12.394
LOOKING TO AVOID THEM.
03:01:12.461 --> 03:01:16.665
AND AND FOR THOSE REASONS ARE IN
03:01:16.732 --> 03:01:17.299
SUPPORT OF THE BILL VERY GOOD
03:01:17.366 --> 03:01:18.567
THANK YOU NORWOOD OTHERS IN
03:01:18.634 --> 03:01:19.301
SUPPORT.
03:01:19.368 --> 03:01:23.205
WE COME FORWARD.
03:01:23.272 --> 03:01:24.106
GOOD AFTERNOON DIDN'T GIVE ME
03:01:24.173 --> 03:01:25.841
GOOD AFTERNOON MR TEAR MEMBERS
03:01:25.908 --> 03:01:27.042
TRACY STEVENS ON BEHALF OF SOME
03:01:27.109 --> 03:01:28.077
YUBA.
03:01:28.143 --> 03:01:29.478
AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF THESE
03:01:29.545 --> 03:01:30.879
SOLUTIONS AND STRONG SUPPORT
03:01:30.946 --> 03:01:32.514
THANK YOU VERY GOOD THANK YOU
03:01:32.581 --> 03:01:33.749
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
03:01:33.816 --> 03:01:35.384
IS THERE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION.
03:01:35.451 --> 03:01:36.352
PLEASE COME FORWARD [inaudible]
03:01:36.418 --> 03:01:46.495
MARTIN.
03:01:46.562 --> 03:01:48.030
SHARE MEMBERS RAND MARTIN ON
03:01:48.097 --> 03:01:50.566
BEHALF OF BLACKBIRD LOGISTICS ON
03:01:50.633 --> 03:01:51.734
BLACKBIRD IS THE LARGEST
03:01:51.800 --> 03:01:53.168
DISTRIBUTOR IN THE STATE OF
03:01:53.235 --> 03:01:54.403
NEVADA AND IS A GROWING
03:01:54.470 --> 03:01:55.938
DISTRIBUTOR HERE IN THE STATE.
03:01:56.005 --> 03:01:57.940
OF CALIFORNIA WOULD MAKE TO OVER
03:01:58.007 --> 03:01:59.074
ARCHING POINTS --
03:01:59.141 --> 03:02:00.843
ONE IS RELATIVE TO HOW
03:02:00.909 --> 03:02:02.711
ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO BE
03:02:02.778 --> 03:02:04.146
HANDLED UNDER --
03:02:04.213 --> 03:02:06.282
UNDER STATE LAW AND THE BUREAU
03:02:06.348 --> 03:02:08.284
CANNABIS CONTROL HAS CREATED A
03:02:08.350 --> 03:02:10.386
WHOLE PANOPLY OF DISCIPLINARY
03:02:10.452 --> 03:02:12.021
GUIDELINES INCLUDING --
03:02:12.087 --> 03:02:13.322
FAILURE --
03:02:13.389 --> 03:02:14.590
TO TO MAINTAIN YOUR SHIP
03:02:14.657 --> 03:02:16.592
SHIPPING MANIFEST I'M AND OTHER
03:02:16.659 --> 03:02:17.559
THINGS RELATED TO THAT.
03:02:17.626 --> 03:02:18.761
AND WE THINK THAT THAT'S THE
03:02:18.827 --> 03:02:20.195
APPROPRIATE MECHANISM --
03:02:20.262 --> 03:02:21.730
INSTEAD OF CREATING AN OVERLAY
03:02:21.797 --> 03:02:24.066
AS AB TWENTY TWO FIFTY FIVE DOES
03:02:24.133 --> 03:02:25.434
WHICH IS YOUR ANALYSIS RIGHTLY
03:02:25.501 --> 03:02:27.436
POINTS OUT IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN
03:02:27.503 --> 03:02:30.172
WHAT THE ON BUREAU COULD IMPOSE
03:02:30.239 --> 03:02:31.840
ON IT IN ITS A DISCIPLINARY
03:02:31.907 --> 03:02:32.675
GUIDELINES.
03:02:32.741 --> 03:02:34.943
ON WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR
03:02:35.010 --> 03:02:37.046
THE BUREAU TO BE MAKING
03:02:37.112 --> 03:02:38.047
JUDGMENTS.
03:02:38.113 --> 03:02:39.948
ACROSS A LARGE NUMBER OF
03:02:40.015 --> 03:02:42.418
ACTIVITIES BY A LICENSEE --
03:02:42.484 --> 03:02:43.018
RATHER THAN HAVING IT CASE BY
03:02:43.085 --> 03:02:45.421
CASE.
03:02:45.487 --> 03:02:46.288
AT FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A POP
03:02:46.355 --> 03:02:48.724
WHICH FRANKLY FIVE DOLLARS
03:02:48.791 --> 03:02:50.125
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MUCH UNTIL
03:02:50.192 --> 03:02:50.993
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A
03:02:51.060 --> 03:02:52.828
DISTRIBUTOR THAT IS DOING.
03:02:52.895 --> 03:02:54.263
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF OF
03:02:54.330 --> 03:02:56.265
TRANSACTIONS A YEAR THAT ENDS UP
03:02:56.332 --> 03:02:58.634
BEING I'M COULD END UP BEING A A
03:02:58.701 --> 03:03:00.269
SIZEABLE A SIZEABLE PROBLEM.
03:03:00.336 --> 03:03:01.437
ON WHICH WAS ACTUALLY THE SECOND
03:03:01.503 --> 03:03:03.172
ABOUT A SECOND POINT ON THAT I
03:03:03.238 --> 03:03:04.340
WANTED TO MAKE.
03:03:04.406 --> 03:03:05.307
I'M SO WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO
03:03:05.374 --> 03:03:07.042
DEFER TO THE BUREAU THE BUREAU
03:03:07.109 --> 03:03:09.645
HAS IT IT'S IT'S EARLY IN TERMS
03:03:09.712 --> 03:03:11.814
OF ITS ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES ON
03:03:11.880 --> 03:03:12.581
WE DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A
03:03:12.648 --> 03:03:14.049
PROBLEM YET I'M WE THINK WE
03:03:14.116 --> 03:03:15.651
SHOULD WAIT AND SEE IF THERE'S A
03:03:15.718 --> 03:03:16.285
PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THE BUREAU
03:03:16.352 --> 03:03:16.485
DOES.
03:03:16.552 --> 03:03:18.754
IT ON BEFORE WE BEGIN IMPOSING
03:03:18.821 --> 03:03:20.189
ALSO LIKE TO MAKE IT CLOSE WITH
03:03:20.255 --> 03:03:21.724
ONE FINAL POINT THERE'S A
03:03:21.790 --> 03:03:22.825
HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE PAGES OF
03:03:22.891 --> 03:03:25.094
REGULATIONS JUST FOR THE BUREAU.
03:03:25.160 --> 03:03:26.628
THAT WERE FINALIZED AND RELEASED
03:03:26.695 --> 03:03:29.064
LAST WEEK ON THIS IS THE ONLY
03:03:29.131 --> 03:03:30.699
ONE THAT I'M AWARE OF IN WHICH
03:03:30.766 --> 03:03:31.734
THERE IS A DISCRETE.
03:03:31.800 --> 03:03:34.136
A BILL THAT'S INTENDED TO CREATE
03:03:34.203 --> 03:03:37.139
A NEW PENALTY ON TOP OF WHAT THE
03:03:37.206 --> 03:03:39.475
BUREAU CAN ALREADY DO ON FOR ONE
03:03:39.541 --> 03:03:41.477
REGULATION IN THOSE HUNDRED
03:03:41.543 --> 03:03:42.077
TWENTY FIVE PAGES.
03:03:42.144 --> 03:03:44.413
WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE THIS BEGIN
03:03:44.480 --> 03:03:44.847
A LAND RUSH.
03:03:44.913 --> 03:03:47.349
ON NEW PENALTIES IMPOSED ON ANY
03:03:47.416 --> 03:03:50.085
OF THOSE OTHER REGULATIONS AND
03:03:50.152 --> 03:03:50.719
HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE PAGES THANK
03:03:50.786 --> 03:03:51.887
YOU THANK YOU MISTER MARTIN
03:03:51.954 --> 03:03:52.421
OTHERS IN.
03:03:52.488 --> 03:03:56.358
OPPOSITION.
03:03:56.425 --> 03:03:56.959
YOU KNOW AND BRING IT BACK FOR
03:03:57.025 --> 03:03:59.194
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
03:03:59.261 --> 03:04:00.462
WHICH WRITE TO CLOSE ASSEMBLY
03:04:00.529 --> 03:04:01.530
MEMBER YEAH CERTAINLY.
03:04:01.597 --> 03:04:03.165
PRIOR TO JANUARY ONE WOULD
03:04:03.232 --> 03:04:04.433
PROPOSITION SIXTY FOUR WENT INTO
03:04:04.500 --> 03:04:05.601
EFFECT.
03:04:05.667 --> 03:04:06.235
INTERACTIONS BETWEEN
03:04:06.301 --> 03:04:07.903
DISTRIBUTORS A LAW ENFORCEABLE
03:04:07.970 --> 03:04:09.438
CHALLENGING TO DEAL WITH.
03:04:09.505 --> 03:04:11.240
BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY TO
03:04:11.306 --> 03:04:11.840
TELL IF THE ACTIVITY WAS LEGAL
03:04:11.907 --> 03:04:12.941
OR NOT.
03:04:13.008 --> 03:04:14.810
WITH THE STATE LICENSURE WE'RE
03:04:14.877 --> 03:04:16.145
TRANSITIONING INTO A NEW ERA OF
03:04:16.211 --> 03:04:18.013
ENFORCEMENT AND OFFICERS WILL
03:04:18.080 --> 03:04:19.948
NOW NEED TO LEARN THE NEW RULES.
03:04:20.015 --> 03:04:21.350
THIS BILL AIMS TO GIVE GUIDANCE
03:04:21.417 --> 03:04:22.618
TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ALLOW
03:04:22.684 --> 03:04:24.052
THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS WITHOUT
03:04:24.119 --> 03:04:26.155
CAUSING UNDUE BURDEN TO LICENSE
03:04:26.221 --> 03:04:26.688
DISTRIBUTORS ARE DELIVERY
03:04:26.755 --> 03:04:27.823
DRIVERS.
03:04:27.890 --> 03:04:29.324
LIKE ALL BILLS THIS WILL
03:04:29.391 --> 03:04:29.925
CONTINUE TO NEED FURTHER
03:04:29.992 --> 03:04:31.860
REFINEMENT WHICH IS WHY WORKING
03:04:31.927 --> 03:04:33.228
WITH THE BUREAU LEGISLATIVE
03:04:33.295 --> 03:04:35.164
COUNSEL AND STAKEHOLDERS TO
03:04:35.230 --> 03:04:35.964
DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE
03:04:36.031 --> 03:04:37.199
LANGUAGE FOR THE BILL'S INTENT
03:04:37.266 --> 03:04:39.435
AND LAST YEAR I VOTE THANK YOU
03:04:39.501 --> 03:04:40.569
VERY MUCH MISTER LACKEY --
03:04:40.636 --> 03:04:43.405
IN A MOTION.
03:04:43.472 --> 03:04:45.307
WE'RE GOOD THANK YOU SENATOR
03:04:45.374 --> 03:04:47.142
ALLEN FOR FOR THE MOTION WE HAVE
03:04:47.209 --> 03:04:51.213
A MOTION TO PASS [inaudible]
03:04:51.280 --> 03:04:55.217
TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
03:04:55.284 --> 03:04:57.019
VERY GOOD CONTROLLABLE MOTION IS
03:04:57.085 --> 03:04:58.053
TO PASS THE SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY
03:04:58.120 --> 03:04:59.621
COMMITTEE HILL BY HILL AYE
03:04:59.688 --> 03:04:59.855
FULLER.
03:04:59.922 --> 03:05:01.723
ALAN.
03:05:01.790 --> 03:05:03.492
ALLEN I DON I'D DODD AYE
03:05:03.559 --> 03:05:05.994
GALGIANI GLAZER HERNANDEZ AND
03:05:06.061 --> 03:05:08.464
WILL.
03:05:08.530 --> 03:05:10.032
IF THREE VOTES IT WILL HOLD
03:05:10.098 --> 03:05:10.999
RULED IN FOR THE HAVE YOU SIR
03:05:11.066 --> 03:05:12.267
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:05:12.334 --> 03:05:14.002
ASSEMBLY MEMBER IRWIN I SEE YOU
03:05:14.069 --> 03:05:14.236
HERE --
03:05:14.303 --> 03:05:17.706
YOU'D.
03:05:17.773 --> 03:05:19.107
PORTION REMEMBER COOLEY IS AT
03:05:19.174 --> 03:05:21.844
THE END OF THE AGENDA TODAY
03:05:21.910 --> 03:05:22.144
[inaudible]
03:05:22.211 --> 03:05:27.950
HIS PATIENT.
03:05:28.016 --> 03:05:33.589
INCLUDING FOR TO THE END.
03:05:33.655 --> 03:05:36.458
WHO IT DESCRIPTIVE SIMMER
03:05:36.525 --> 03:05:38.527
COVERED AREAS CAME IN SO YOU
03:05:38.594 --> 03:05:40.596
GETTING FURTHER TO THE END?
03:05:40.662 --> 03:05:41.263
THE THOUGHT POLICE RECEIVER NO
03:05:41.330 --> 03:05:43.866
MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN A. B.
03:05:43.932 --> 03:05:45.133
NINETEEN ZERO SIX WHEW THANK YOU
03:05:45.200 --> 03:05:45.934
VERY MUCH --
03:05:46.001 --> 03:05:47.603
TODAY AFTER SIGNING A NINETEEN
03:05:47.669 --> 03:05:50.038
OH SIX THE INTERNET OF THINGS
03:05:50.105 --> 03:05:50.772
BOTTOM THAT PREVENTION ACT.
03:05:50.839 --> 03:05:51.373
THIS BILL IS THE PRODUCT OF
03:05:51.440 --> 03:05:52.374
EXTENSIVE COLLABORATION BY MY
03:05:52.441 --> 03:05:53.842
OFFICE IN THE TECH INDUSTRY TO
03:05:53.909 --> 03:05:55.310
ADDRESS A CRITICAL CYBERSECURITY
03:05:55.377 --> 03:05:57.346
PROBLEM. ONE THAT IS ONLY
03:05:57.412 --> 03:05:59.047
FORECASTED TO GET WORSE.
03:05:59.114 --> 03:06:01.049
THIS BILL REQUIRES MANUFACTURERS
03:06:01.116 --> 03:06:02.784
TO EQUIP CONNECTED DEVICES WITH
03:06:02.851 --> 03:06:04.319
REASONABLE SECURITY FEATURES
03:06:04.386 --> 03:06:05.521
THAT ARE APPROPRIATE TO THE
03:06:05.587 --> 03:06:07.189
NATURE AND FUNCTION OF THE
03:06:07.256 --> 03:06:09.124
DEVICE. TO PREVENT UNAUTHORIZED
03:06:09.191 --> 03:06:11.426
REMOTE ACCESS OR USE.
03:06:11.493 --> 03:06:12.461
BEFORE THIS HEARING I TOOK
03:06:12.528 --> 03:06:13.428
AMENDMENTS CHANGING THE
03:06:13.495 --> 03:06:14.997
DEFINITION OF MANUFACTURER TO
03:06:15.063 --> 03:06:16.598
BETTER REFLECT MY INTENTOF
03:06:16.665 --> 03:06:18.667
COVERING ALL CONNECTED DEVICES
03:06:18.734 --> 03:06:20.168
SOLD IN CALIFORNIA.
03:06:20.235 --> 03:06:22.104
BUT REQUIRING ACTION ONLY FROM
03:06:22.170 --> 03:06:22.971
THOSE WHO ARE PART OF THE
03:06:23.038 --> 03:06:25.007
MANUFACTURING PROCESS EITHER
03:06:25.073 --> 03:06:26.475
THROUGH CONTRACT.
03:06:26.542 --> 03:06:28.544
OR ACTUAL ASSEMBLY.
03:06:28.610 --> 03:06:29.912
WHILE THIS ADDRESSES TO AN
03:06:29.978 --> 03:06:31.346
EXTENT SOME OF THE OPPOSITION'S
03:06:31.413 --> 03:06:33.348
CONCERNS THERE REMAINING
03:06:33.415 --> 03:06:35.117
CONCERNS ASK FOR CHANGES THAT
03:06:35.183 --> 03:06:37.352
MISCONSTRUE PROVISIONS OF THE
03:06:37.419 --> 03:06:38.854
BILL AS A SAFE HARBOR.
03:06:38.921 --> 03:06:40.556
THEIR COMPLAINTS OF REGARDING
03:06:40.622 --> 03:06:41.957
THE WIDELY IS REASONABLE
03:06:42.024 --> 03:06:43.926
REQUIREMENT AS UNWORKABLE ARE
03:06:43.992 --> 03:06:45.427
MISPLACED AND WOULD LEAD TO BAD
03:06:45.494 --> 03:06:46.962
PUBLIC POLICY BY INSERTING
03:06:47.029 --> 03:06:49.431
INDUSTRY STANDARDS INTO THE BILL.
03:06:49.498 --> 03:06:51.166
AND ELEVATING THEM MORE THAN
03:06:51.233 --> 03:06:53.368
JUST PERSUASIVE EVIDENCE
03:06:53.435 --> 03:06:54.803
ENFORCEMENT OF THE PROVISIONS OF
03:06:54.870 --> 03:06:56.605
THIS BILL WILL END UP INCLUDING
03:06:56.672 --> 03:06:58.373
THE JUDICIAL REVIEW OF INDUSTRY
03:06:58.440 --> 03:06:59.741
STANDARDS TO INFORM.
03:06:59.808 --> 03:07:01.109
OUTSIDE THEIR REASONABLENESS
03:07:01.176 --> 03:07:02.377
UNDERSTANDING ADDING ANY
03:07:02.444 --> 03:07:03.712
LANGUAGE REGARDING STANDARDS I
03:07:03.779 --> 03:07:05.180
FEAR WILL HAVE UNINTENDED
03:07:05.247 --> 03:07:06.348
CONSEQUENCES.
03:07:06.415 --> 03:07:08.116
AND TIE THE HANDS OF OUR JUDGES
03:07:08.183 --> 03:07:08.417
TO SUPPORT.
03:07:08.483 --> 03:07:10.752
INNOVATION THIS MEASURE WHEN
03:07:10.819 --> 03:07:12.321
ENACTED WILL SECURE ARE SMART
03:07:12.387 --> 03:07:14.256
HOMES AND SMART CITIES FROM
03:07:14.323 --> 03:07:16.792
BEING LEVERAGED AGAINST US AND I
03:07:16.858 --> 03:07:17.926
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR EYES.
03:07:17.993 --> 03:07:19.361
VERY GOOD THANK YOU OTHER
03:07:19.428 --> 03:07:22.364
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
03:07:22.431 --> 03:07:24.733
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION PLEASE
03:07:24.800 --> 03:07:26.668
COME FORWARD UP VERY GOOD THANK
03:07:26.735 --> 03:07:27.703
YOU NOT VERY GOOD [inaudible]
03:07:27.769 --> 03:07:38.146
YOU HEAR [inaudible]
03:07:38.213 --> 03:07:42.150
GOOD AFTERNOON [inaudible]
03:07:42.217 --> 03:07:43.819
IT'S PRETTY.
03:07:43.885 --> 03:07:45.354
THANK YOU I'M KEVIN MESSNER AND
03:07:45.420 --> 03:07:46.855
WITH THE ASSOCIATION OF HOME
03:07:46.922 --> 03:07:48.991
APPLIANCE MANUFACTURERS --
03:07:49.057 --> 03:07:50.993
WE OPPOSE THIS BILL APPRECIATE
03:07:51.059 --> 03:07:52.728
THE CHANGES ASSEMBLY WOMAN HAS
03:07:52.794 --> 03:07:54.029
MADE ON THE DEFINITION OF
03:07:54.096 --> 03:07:55.631
MANUFACTURING THAT IS HELPFUL
03:07:55.697 --> 03:07:57.199
AND WE HOPE.
03:07:57.265 --> 03:07:57.833
TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS BILL
03:07:57.899 --> 03:08:00.369
WHAT'S THINK IMPORTANT NOW
03:08:00.435 --> 03:08:02.304
EMPHASIZE HERE'S GREW E
03:08:02.371 --> 03:08:03.872
SUPPORTIVE JACKED IS OF THIS
03:08:03.939 --> 03:08:04.473
BILL.
03:08:04.539 --> 03:08:06.174
AND INDUSTRY WANT TO MAKE SURE
03:08:06.241 --> 03:08:08.310
THAT THERE'S NO WEAK LINKS.
03:08:08.377 --> 03:08:09.745
THE ISSUE WE HAVE I THINK MAYBE
03:08:09.811 --> 03:08:11.913
A FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE AS WE DON'T
03:08:11.980 --> 03:08:13.115
THINK THAT.
03:08:13.181 --> 03:08:15.250
OLD SLOW MOVING THE LAW IS THE
03:08:15.317 --> 03:08:16.652
BEST WAY TO KEEP AFTR
03:08:16.718 --> 03:08:18.086
CYBERSECURITY.
03:08:18.153 --> 03:08:19.921
THIS LAW MIGHT GO TOO FAR MIGHT
03:08:19.988 --> 03:08:22.124
NOT GO FAR ENOUGH.
03:08:22.190 --> 03:08:23.992
AND HAVING THIS DONE IN JUDGES
03:08:24.059 --> 03:08:26.728
AND JURIES BY PATCHWORK OF
03:08:26.795 --> 03:08:29.297
COURTROOMS WILL NOT.
03:08:29.364 --> 03:08:30.465
REALLY KEEP ONE STEP AHEAD OF
03:08:30.532 --> 03:08:32.467
CYBERSECURITY.
03:08:32.534 --> 03:08:33.402
WHAT WE THINK THE BETTER WAY TO
03:08:33.468 --> 03:08:34.536
GO IS TRUE NATIONAL CONSENSUS
03:08:34.603 --> 03:08:36.238
STANDARDS?
03:08:36.304 --> 03:08:37.639
WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY
03:08:37.706 --> 03:08:39.241
THAT'S WHERE THE TECHNICAL
03:08:39.307 --> 03:08:41.209
EXPERTISE LIES TO BE.
03:08:41.276 --> 03:08:42.244
FAST IN THIS AREA [inaudible]
03:08:42.310 --> 03:08:44.112
WE'VE.
03:08:44.179 --> 03:08:46.481
TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE --
03:08:46.548 --> 03:08:47.582
WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET WE'VE
03:08:47.649 --> 03:08:49.217
HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS WITH
03:08:49.284 --> 03:08:50.686
SENATOR JACKSON ON THIS.
03:08:50.752 --> 03:08:52.621
AND SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THINGS WILL
03:08:52.688 --> 03:08:54.856
END UP LIKE THAT.
03:08:54.923 --> 03:08:57.159
AS THINGS PROCEED.
03:08:57.225 --> 03:08:57.826
THANK IT WHEN TO OTHERS IN
03:08:57.893 --> 03:08:59.594
OPPOSITION.
03:08:59.661 --> 03:09:00.128
I THINK TO THE CHAIR THE
03:09:00.195 --> 03:09:02.030
COMMITTEE THAT TO THE AUTHOR FOR
03:09:02.097 --> 03:09:03.298
HER WORK ON THE BILL SO FAR
03:09:03.365 --> 03:09:05.267
AMAME STROKE COOK I AM WITH THE
03:09:05.333 --> 03:09:06.501
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS AND
03:09:06.568 --> 03:09:08.003
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION.
03:09:08.070 --> 03:09:09.538
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE BILL MUST
03:09:09.604 --> 03:09:11.873
IT IS AMENDED WE HAVE TWO MAIN
03:09:11.940 --> 03:09:14.142
AREAS OF CONCERN FIRST IS THE
03:09:14.209 --> 03:09:15.410
DEFINITION OF MANUFACTURE.
03:09:15.477 --> 03:09:16.778
OUT WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE WORK
03:09:16.845 --> 03:09:17.612
THAT THE AUTHORS ON THE
03:09:17.679 --> 03:09:19.347
DEFINITIONS THAT'S FAR WE STILL
03:09:19.414 --> 03:09:22.951
HAVE A A A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH
03:09:23.018 --> 03:09:25.687
THE WHOLE THAT THE BILL CREATES --
03:09:25.754 --> 03:09:27.255
FOR THOSE WHO IMPORT AYE
03:09:27.322 --> 03:09:28.990
INSECURE DEVICES AND OFFER THEM
03:09:29.057 --> 03:09:30.592
FOR RESALE IN CALIFORNIA BUT
03:09:30.659 --> 03:09:32.060
THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE AND
03:09:32.127 --> 03:09:33.195
ACTUALLY THE SCORES OF THE
03:09:33.261 --> 03:09:34.796
PROBLEM THAT THE BILL IS
03:09:34.863 --> 03:09:35.964
INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE MORE I
03:09:36.031 --> 03:09:37.666
THOUGHT IT WAS CAUSED.
03:09:37.733 --> 03:09:39.501
BY DEVICES THAT WERE IN PORTED
03:09:39.568 --> 03:09:42.204
FROM CHINA FROM SOUTHEAST ASIA I
03:09:42.270 --> 03:09:43.472
AM FROM SOUTH AMERICA --
03:09:43.538 --> 03:09:44.940
ALSO HE REFERENCE YOUR YOUR
03:09:45.006 --> 03:09:49.044
COMMITTEE NOW. FOR THE COMMITTEE
03:09:49.111 --> 03:09:50.746
ANNOUNCES REFERENCES AT THE
03:09:50.812 --> 03:09:51.980
TRAIN THAT --
03:09:52.047 --> 03:09:53.348
WEBCAMS THOUGH THEMSELVES ARE
03:09:53.415 --> 03:09:56.985
WORK DEVICES THAT WERE IMPORTED --
03:09:57.052 --> 03:09:58.720
BY A RETAILER AND RESOLD IN
03:09:58.787 --> 03:10:00.355
CALIFORNIA SO WITHOUT INCLUDING
03:10:00.422 --> 03:10:01.523
IN THE DEFINITION OF
03:10:01.590 --> 03:10:02.891
MANUFACTURER --
03:10:02.958 --> 03:10:04.526
THOSE THAT IMPORT DEVICES THAT
03:10:04.593 --> 03:10:06.394
THE SOURCE FROM ELSEWHERE AND
03:10:06.461 --> 03:10:07.529
RESELL THEM WE ACTUALLY ARTS
03:10:07.596 --> 03:10:08.330
SOLVING THE CYBERSECURITY
03:10:08.396 --> 03:10:10.365
PROBLEMS ALL THAT WE'RE DOING IS
03:10:10.432 --> 03:10:12.100
CREATING AND PUTTING OUR
03:10:12.167 --> 03:10:13.568
COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE THERE.
03:10:13.635 --> 03:10:14.970
FOR OUR DOMESTIC MANUFACTURERS
03:10:15.036 --> 03:10:16.138
WHO ARE GOING TO COMPLY WITH
03:10:16.204 --> 03:10:17.205
THIS AND SPEND THE MONEY TO
03:10:17.272 --> 03:10:18.306
SECURE THE DEVICES.
03:10:18.373 --> 03:10:19.708
OUR OUR SECOND ISSUE IS THAT
03:10:19.775 --> 03:10:20.275
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PATH TO
03:10:20.342 --> 03:10:23.945
COMPLIANCE AND WE ARE LOOKING --
03:10:24.012 --> 03:10:25.280
FOR SOME SECURITY THAT WHEN WE
03:10:25.347 --> 03:10:27.716
SPEND MILLIONS TO SECURE THESE
03:10:27.783 --> 03:10:29.985
DEVICES AND WE ARE DESIGNING TO
03:10:30.051 --> 03:10:31.686
FIT A IN INDUSTRY STANDARD A
03:10:31.753 --> 03:10:32.854
NATIONAL CONSENSUS STANDARD OR
03:10:32.921 --> 03:10:34.122
OTHER PUBLIC GUIDANCE.
03:10:34.189 --> 03:10:35.457
THAT WE HAVE SOME SECURITY THAT
03:10:35.524 --> 03:10:37.159
WE WON'T BE LIABLE --
03:10:37.225 --> 03:10:38.794
TEN YEARS DOWN THE LINE THIS IS
03:10:38.860 --> 03:10:40.462
VERY SIMILAR TO A STANDARD THAT
03:10:40.529 --> 03:10:41.630
WE SEE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL --
03:10:41.696 --> 03:10:43.632
THAT IMPLEMENTED BY THE FTC AND
03:10:43.698 --> 03:10:45.267
SO WERE ASKING FOR HERE WE
03:10:45.333 --> 03:10:46.201
SUGGESTED A GOOD FAITH DEFENSE
03:10:46.268 --> 03:10:48.236
THAT THAT IF WE DO COMPLY WITH
03:10:48.303 --> 03:10:49.871
THE STANDARDS THAT EXIST.
03:10:49.938 --> 03:10:51.740
WE WILL BE LIABLE UNDER THE BILL --
03:10:51.807 --> 03:10:54.042
IF THERE ISN'T SUCH A STANDARD
03:10:54.109 --> 03:10:55.277
THAT WE DO REFER BACK TO THE
03:10:55.343 --> 03:10:56.311
REASON MOST MISSTEP IT IS
03:10:56.378 --> 03:10:57.779
ALREADY IN THE BILL WE DON'T
03:10:57.846 --> 03:10:58.814
HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT WE'RE
03:10:58.880 --> 03:11:00.415
LOOKING FOR IS A A PATH THAT WE
03:11:00.482 --> 03:11:01.883
CAN SAY THAT.
03:11:01.950 --> 03:11:02.450
WE'VE MET SOMETHING AHEAD OF
03:11:02.517 --> 03:11:05.053
TIME.
03:11:05.120 --> 03:11:06.788
SO FOR THOSE REASONS WERE WERE
03:11:06.855 --> 03:11:08.557
ASKING FOR IT'LL TEAM THANK YOU
03:11:08.623 --> 03:11:10.125
THANK YOU OTHER OPPOSITION.
03:11:10.192 --> 03:11:10.792
BETTER INFORM BEHALF OF THE
03:11:10.859 --> 03:11:11.293
ALLIANCE OF AUTOMOBILE
03:11:11.359 --> 03:11:12.828
MANUFACTURERS WE'VE HAD
03:11:12.894 --> 03:11:13.929
PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH
03:11:13.995 --> 03:11:14.796
THE AUTHORS OFFICE BUT REMAIN
03:11:14.863 --> 03:11:16.298
CONCERNED ABOUT APPLICATION
03:11:16.364 --> 03:11:17.432
MOTOR VEHICLES.
03:11:17.499 --> 03:11:18.600
UNIT THERE ALREADY IS AND IT'S A
03:11:18.667 --> 03:11:21.670
GUIDANCE ON CYBERSECURITY WE
03:11:21.736 --> 03:11:24.105
THANK YOU OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
03:11:24.172 --> 03:11:25.407
YOU KNOW ONE GREEN BACK TO THE
03:11:25.473 --> 03:11:26.541
TRUTH IT EVER AGAIN YOU DID
03:11:26.608 --> 03:11:28.310
ACCEPT THE LIMITS THAT ARE
03:11:28.376 --> 03:11:29.211
OUTLINED IN THE LAST ANALYSIS
03:11:29.277 --> 03:11:31.246
THANK YOU --
03:11:31.313 --> 03:11:32.214
IN ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS AS TO
03:11:32.280 --> 03:11:32.881
WHO'S BEEN MATE IS THE ISSUE OF
03:11:32.948 --> 03:11:34.816
COMPETITIVENESS IN.
03:11:34.883 --> 03:11:36.251
BUT IN CALIFORNIA IS YOU KNOW
03:11:36.318 --> 03:11:38.854
OUR ALLOWING A FOREIGN ENTITY TO
03:11:38.920 --> 03:11:40.655
OR MANUFACTURER TO DO SOMETHING
03:11:40.722 --> 03:11:41.590
THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO
03:11:41.656 --> 03:11:43.358
DO AND THEN AND WE ADDRESS THAT
03:11:43.425 --> 03:11:45.493
WITH WE THINK THAT WE ADDRESS
03:11:45.560 --> 03:11:47.796
THAT WITH THE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE
03:11:47.863 --> 03:11:50.098
THERE IS NO INTENTION AT ALL.
03:11:50.165 --> 03:11:51.299
TO DISADVANTAGED CALIFORNIA
03:11:51.366 --> 03:11:52.500
MANUFACTURERS AND WE BELIEVE
03:11:52.567 --> 03:11:53.902
THAT WE ADDRESS THAT.
03:11:53.969 --> 03:11:56.004
I WOULD LIKE --
03:11:56.071 --> 03:11:56.805
TO ALSO SAY THAT NO BUT WE
03:11:56.872 --> 03:11:59.875
STARTED ALL.
03:11:59.941 --> 03:12:01.142
I WITH THE TECH COMPANIES AND
03:12:01.209 --> 03:12:02.944
SAID THIS HAS ISN'T IT ISSUE
03:12:03.011 --> 03:12:04.246
THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE
03:12:04.312 --> 03:12:05.780
ADDRESSED IF IF IF YOU LOOK AT
03:12:05.847 --> 03:12:07.082
ALL THE ATTACKS THAT ARE GOING
03:12:07.148 --> 03:12:09.150
ON THE ATTACKS OF THESE AYE OR
03:12:09.217 --> 03:12:10.385
TWO DEVICES.
03:12:10.452 --> 03:12:12.854
SO WE WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE
03:12:12.921 --> 03:12:14.222
SURE WE ATTACK THAT SUPPORT.
03:12:14.289 --> 03:12:16.625
AND GROUPS THAT WERE INITIALLY
03:12:16.691 --> 03:12:18.927
IN OPPOSITION THE CHAMBER --
03:12:18.994 --> 03:12:20.629
NATIONAL ADVERTISERS THE
03:12:20.695 --> 03:12:22.530
CALIFORNIA RETAILERS COMP HERE
03:12:22.597 --> 03:12:25.734
AND CTIA [inaudible]
03:12:25.800 --> 03:12:28.036
UGH.
03:12:28.103 --> 03:12:29.070
I THINK THAT ON MY GLASSES ON
03:12:29.137 --> 03:12:30.338
STUDIES ALL GROUPS THAT WE HAVE
03:12:30.405 --> 03:12:32.807
WORKED WITH WE'VE HAD MANY MANY
03:12:32.874 --> 03:12:34.109
DIFFERENT --
03:12:34.175 --> 03:12:35.744
CHANGES TO THE BILL TO MAKE SURE
03:12:35.810 --> 03:12:37.812
THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING --
03:12:37.879 --> 03:12:39.648
THE ISSUE IF THEIR ISSUES AND WE
03:12:39.714 --> 03:12:41.283
THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD
03:12:41.349 --> 03:12:42.617
COLLABORATIVE.
03:12:42.684 --> 03:12:44.386
AT ISSUE.
03:12:44.452 --> 03:12:45.787
WE DID NOT DO A SAFE HARBOR
03:12:45.854 --> 03:12:47.088
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY
03:12:47.155 --> 03:12:48.423
IMPORTANT THAT WE ALLOW
03:12:48.490 --> 03:12:50.458
INNOVATION AND IT IT WILL WOULD
03:12:50.525 --> 03:12:52.227
BE IF THIS IF CASES COME TO
03:12:52.294 --> 03:12:54.029
COURT IT'S UP TO THE JUDGE TO
03:12:54.095 --> 03:12:55.297
LOOK AT WHAT THE CURRENT
03:12:55.363 --> 03:12:56.431
STANDARDS ARE.
03:12:56.498 --> 03:12:59.501
AND TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT --
03:12:59.567 --> 03:12:59.935
SAFE --
03:13:00.001 --> 03:13:02.470
REASONABLENESS OF THE OTHER
03:13:02.537 --> 03:13:03.505
THING WITH THE AUTO
03:13:03.571 --> 03:13:06.508
MANUFACTURERS AND PEOPLE LIKE --
03:13:06.574 --> 03:13:08.209
MEDICAL DEVICE MANUFACTURERS IF
03:13:08.276 --> 03:13:10.679
THERE ARE FEDERAL STANDARDS THAN
03:13:10.745 --> 03:13:12.547
THIS BILL DOES NOT APPLY TO THEM
03:13:12.614 --> 03:13:13.315
SO NOT.
03:13:13.381 --> 03:13:16.418
IF THERE WERE FEDERAL STANDARDS --
03:13:16.484 --> 03:13:17.385
FOR THE SPECIFIC DEVICES THEY'RE
03:13:17.452 --> 03:13:19.154
TALKING ABOUT IT THEY'RE VERY
03:13:19.220 --> 03:13:21.389
INTERESTED IN THE NEW STANDARDS
03:13:21.456 --> 03:13:23.024
THEN -- THEN
03:13:23.091 --> 03:13:25.627
THAT THOSE THOSE REGULATIONS WAY
03:13:25.694 --> 03:13:30.065
AND TAKE PLACE OF OF THIS BILL.
03:13:30.131 --> 03:13:30.699
VERY GOOD I'LL TAKE THAT ISSUE
03:13:30.765 --> 03:13:33.134
CLOSER WONDERFUL THANK YOU VERY
03:13:33.201 --> 03:13:34.102
MUCH YOU.
03:13:34.169 --> 03:13:34.669
HAVE BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A
03:13:34.736 --> 03:13:36.137
MOTION.
03:13:36.204 --> 03:13:37.572
A MOVE THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE
03:13:37.639 --> 03:13:39.341
HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR DODD
03:13:39.407 --> 03:13:40.542
PLEASE HOLD.
03:13:40.608 --> 03:13:41.977
MOTION IS TO PASSED THE SENATE
03:13:42.043 --> 03:13:43.278
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HEALTH I
03:13:43.345 --> 03:13:46.214
FEEL I'VE FULLER ALAN.
03:13:46.281 --> 03:13:47.882
ALLEN AYE DODD AYE DODD AYE
03:13:47.949 --> 03:13:49.517
GALGIANI GLAZER HERNANDEZ AND
03:13:49.584 --> 03:13:51.252
WILK.
03:13:51.319 --> 03:13:52.087
WITH THREE VOTE TO UPHOLD THE
03:13:52.153 --> 03:13:53.455
RULE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS
03:13:53.521 --> 03:13:54.422
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
03:13:54.489 --> 03:13:56.658
TESTIMONY TODAY CAN REALLY
03:13:56.725 --> 03:14:00.228
APPRECIATE THAT THANK YOU.
03:14:00.295 --> 03:14:05.600
ASSEMBLYMEMBER CUT IT OFF.
03:14:05.667 --> 03:14:07.502
WE DO ITEM NUMBER.
03:14:07.569 --> 03:14:08.503
TWELVE AB TWENTY ONE FORTY THREE
03:14:08.570 --> 03:14:09.771
WELCOME.
03:14:09.838 --> 03:14:16.811
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:14:16.878 --> 03:14:17.212
PLEASE PERSONALLY.
03:14:17.278 --> 03:14:18.813
LOOK YOU.
03:14:18.880 --> 03:14:19.614
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER
03:14:19.681 --> 03:14:21.449
CHAIRMAN AND SENATORS I AM
03:14:21.516 --> 03:14:23.918
PLEASED TO PRESENT A BE TWENTY
03:14:23.985 --> 03:14:24.486
ONE FORTY THREE WHICH WOULD
03:14:24.552 --> 03:14:25.653
INCREASE ACCESS TO PSYCHIATRIC
03:14:25.720 --> 03:14:26.788
SERVICES.
03:14:26.855 --> 03:14:28.957
PARTICULARLY IN RURAL CALIFORNIA
03:14:29.024 --> 03:14:30.558
BY PROVIDING AN INCENTIVE FOR
03:14:30.625 --> 03:14:32.460
CURRENTLY LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH
03:14:32.527 --> 03:14:34.562
PROFESSIONALS THE GAME MENTAL
03:14:34.629 --> 03:14:35.030
TRAITS.
03:14:35.096 --> 03:14:36.931
MEDICAL TRAINING USING EXISTING
03:14:36.998 --> 03:14:38.466
TRAINING PROGRAMS.
03:14:38.533 --> 03:14:39.868
AS YOU KNOW CALIFORNIA'S FACING
03:14:39.934 --> 03:14:40.802
A SHORTAGE OF MENTAL HEALTH
03:14:40.869 --> 03:14:42.170
PROFESSIONALS WHO CAN PROVIDE
03:14:42.237 --> 03:14:44.472
ACCESS TO PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES.
03:14:44.539 --> 03:14:45.607
THERE SIMPLY AREN'T ENOUGH
03:14:45.673 --> 03:14:46.775
GRADUATING PSYCHIATRISTS TO MEET
03:14:46.841 --> 03:14:49.577
THE CURRENT DEMAND. ONE IN FOUR
03:14:49.644 --> 03:14:51.679
PSYCHIATRIST POSITION IN COUNTY
03:14:51.746 --> 03:14:52.747
MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM STATEWIDE
03:14:52.814 --> 03:14:54.749
ARE VACANT.
03:14:54.816 --> 03:14:56.684
SOME ESTIMATES INDICATE THAT
03:14:56.751 --> 03:14:58.920
DURING ANY ONE YEAR 2225% OF THE
03:14:58.987 --> 03:15:00.355
POPULATION WILL BENEFIT FROM
03:15:00.422 --> 03:15:01.956
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
03:15:02.023 --> 03:15:04.192
AND 50% OF THE POPULATION OVER
03:15:04.259 --> 03:15:05.393
THEIR LIFETIME WILL REQUIRE THE
03:15:05.460 --> 03:15:06.795
SERVICES.
03:15:06.861 --> 03:15:08.129
IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE ADDRESS
03:15:08.196 --> 03:15:09.397
THE CURRENT AND FUTURE NEEDS OF
03:15:09.464 --> 03:15:10.832
OUR CITIZENS PARTICULARLY IN
03:15:10.899 --> 03:15:12.867
UNDERSERVED AREAS.
03:15:12.934 --> 03:15:14.669
THIS BILL AMENDS STATUTES FOR
03:15:14.736 --> 03:15:15.970
EXISTING STATE PROGRAMS SUCH AS
03:15:16.037 --> 03:15:17.305
THE MENTAL HEALTH LOAN
03:15:17.372 --> 03:15:19.274
ASSUMPTION PROGRAM. TO ALLOW
03:15:19.340 --> 03:15:20.742
DUAL STATUS TRAINEES MADE
03:15:20.809 --> 03:15:22.710
MEETING CERTAIN CRITERIA TO BE
03:15:22.777 --> 03:15:23.812
ELIGIBLE FOR STUDENT LOAN
03:15:23.878 --> 03:15:25.747
REPAYMENT IF THEY ARE WILLING TO
03:15:25.814 --> 03:15:27.115
WORK AND UNDERSERVED RURAL
03:15:27.182 --> 03:15:27.949
COMMUNITIES.
03:15:28.016 --> 03:15:29.651
THESE INCENTIVES WILL HELP FIND
03:15:29.717 --> 03:15:32.153
AN ATTRACT DULY LICENSED.
03:15:32.220 --> 03:15:33.688
PHYSICIAN'S ASSISTANTS AND
03:15:33.755 --> 03:15:34.823
PSYCHIATRIC MENTAL HEALTH NURSE
03:15:34.889 --> 03:15:36.324
PRACTITIONERS TO UNDERSERVED
03:15:36.391 --> 03:15:37.959
COMMUNITIES.
03:15:38.026 --> 03:15:39.561
CURRENT LOAN REPAYMENT PROGRAMS
03:15:39.627 --> 03:15:41.396
THESE PROFESSIONALS QUALIFY FOR
03:15:41.463 --> 03:15:43.431
HAVE NO EMPHASIS ON WORKING IN
03:15:43.498 --> 03:15:45.700
PUBLIC MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES.
03:15:45.767 --> 03:15:47.035
TO ALLOW PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS
03:15:47.102 --> 03:15:48.837
AND PSYCHIATRIC MENTAL HEALTH
03:15:48.903 --> 03:15:50.004
NURSE PRACTITIONERS TO BE
03:15:50.071 --> 03:15:52.207
ELIGIBLE. FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH
03:15:52.273 --> 03:15:53.908
LOAN ASSUMPTION PROGRAM IS
03:15:53.975 --> 03:15:55.009
CRITICAL TO EXPANDING
03:15:55.076 --> 03:15:57.112
PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES TO THOSE
03:15:57.178 --> 03:15:58.513
WITH MEANT MENTAL ILLNESS WHICH
03:15:58.580 --> 03:16:00.515
WILL LEAD TO REDUCE WAIT TIMES
03:16:00.582 --> 03:16:01.049
FOR APPOINTMENTS AND MOST
03:16:01.116 --> 03:16:02.283
IMPORTANTLY.
03:16:02.350 --> 03:16:04.686
EARLIER EVALUATION AND TREATMENT.
03:16:04.752 --> 03:16:05.987
WE ALL KNOW THAT THEIR FAMILIES
03:16:06.054 --> 03:16:07.489
STRUGGLING TO FIND MENTAL HEALTH
03:16:07.555 --> 03:16:08.890
SERVICES FOR THEIR CHILDREN'S
03:16:08.957 --> 03:16:12.160
CHILDREN ADOLESCENTS PARENTS AND
03:16:12.227 --> 03:16:12.861
ELDERLY.
03:16:12.927 --> 03:16:13.495
THIS BILL IS A MODEST ATTEMPT TO
03:16:13.561 --> 03:16:16.598
CLOSE.
03:16:16.664 --> 03:16:18.700
IN MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND I
03:16:18.766 --> 03:16:20.001
ASK FOR YOUR AYE IN SUPPORT OF
03:16:20.068 --> 03:16:20.602
THIS BILL GOOD THANK YOU WILL
03:16:20.668 --> 03:16:21.769
GIVE --
03:16:21.836 --> 03:16:23.605
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT MISTER
03:16:23.671 --> 03:16:24.539
CHAIRMAN RENTAL HAGER FOR THE
03:16:24.606 --> 03:16:25.507
CALIFORNIA PSYCHIATRIC
03:16:25.573 --> 03:16:27.275
ASSOCIATION WE ARE THE SPONSORS
03:16:27.342 --> 03:16:28.076
OF THIS BILL.
03:16:28.143 --> 03:16:29.644
AND I THINK THERE'S NO DOUBT
03:16:29.711 --> 03:16:30.778
THAT MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT
03:16:30.845 --> 03:16:32.881
THIS ACCESS TO PSYCHIATRISTS IS
03:16:32.947 --> 03:16:34.949
VERY DIFFICULT AND PARTICULARLY
03:16:35.016 --> 03:16:37.452
AND UNDERSERVED AREAS --
03:16:37.519 --> 03:16:39.154
AT HAND ALSO AS IT AND COUNTY
03:16:39.220 --> 03:16:40.588
DEPARTMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH --
03:16:40.655 --> 03:16:41.589
EVEN IN SOME OF THE MORE URBAN
03:16:41.656 --> 03:16:43.124
AREAS.
03:16:43.191 --> 03:16:44.292
WE HAVE --
03:16:44.359 --> 03:16:46.027
SUCH A PSYCHIATRIC POPULATION
03:16:46.094 --> 03:16:48.129
THAT IS GRAIN 60% OF
03:16:48.196 --> 03:16:50.665
PSYCHIATRISTS WILL BE SIXTY FIVE
03:16:50.732 --> 03:16:51.633
OR OLDER WITHIN THE NEXT TEN
03:16:51.699 --> 03:16:53.001
YEARS.
03:16:53.067 --> 03:16:54.602
WE KNOW WE HAVE TO SEEK
03:16:54.669 --> 03:16:56.271
SOLUTIONS RIPPLE THE OBVIOUS
03:16:56.337 --> 03:16:57.572
SOLUTION IS TO EXPAND RESIDENCY
03:16:57.639 --> 03:16:59.140
PROGRAMS.
03:16:59.207 --> 03:17:00.942
AND WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY
03:17:01.009 --> 03:17:02.911
IN THE BUDGET I'LL HOPEFULLY THE
03:17:02.977 --> 03:17:04.612
GOVERNOR WILL SEE FIT TO SIGN.
03:17:04.679 --> 03:17:05.947
THE BILL THAT DOES PROVIDE FOR
03:17:06.014 --> 03:17:07.215
SOME MORE GRADUATE MEDICAL
03:17:07.282 --> 03:17:09.417
EDUCATION BUT WE HAVE TO SEEK A
03:17:09.484 --> 03:17:12.420
RAY AN ARRAY OF OF SOLUTIONS AND
03:17:12.487 --> 03:17:13.087
THIS IS --
03:17:13.154 --> 03:17:14.422
ONE LOAN REPAYMENT PROGRAMS ARE
03:17:14.489 --> 03:17:16.224
TESTED --
03:17:16.291 --> 03:17:17.325
THE NURSING --
03:17:17.392 --> 03:17:20.495
PRACTICE PROGRAMS ARE.
03:17:20.562 --> 03:17:21.896
WELL ESTABLISHED AS IT RPA
03:17:21.963 --> 03:17:24.165
PROGRAMS WE'RE TRYING TO JUST
03:17:24.232 --> 03:17:26.134
CREATE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA
03:17:26.201 --> 03:17:28.036
INCENTIVE HERE FOR PEOPLE WHO
03:17:28.102 --> 03:17:30.438
ARE ALREADY LICENSE.
03:17:30.505 --> 03:17:32.941
AS MENTAL HEALTH TRAINEES --
03:17:33.007 --> 03:17:35.143
IN THE PSYCHOTHERAPY POSSESS
03:17:35.210 --> 03:17:37.412
PROFESSIONS TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO
03:17:37.478 --> 03:17:39.280
GO ON IN GAME MEDICAL SKILLS --
03:17:39.347 --> 03:17:39.781
THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE
03:17:39.847 --> 03:17:42.951
ADVANTAGE OF BEING A SETTINGS.
03:17:43.017 --> 03:17:43.351
THAT --
03:17:43.418 --> 03:17:45.353
DESPERATELY NEED THEM.
03:17:45.420 --> 03:17:46.554
SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S AN
03:17:46.621 --> 03:17:47.522
INNOVATIVE --
03:17:47.589 --> 03:17:50.291
CONCEPT TO TRY TO DO IT THIS WAY --
03:17:50.358 --> 03:17:52.360
WE ARE VERY COMMITTED TO
03:17:52.427 --> 03:17:54.495
INCREASING ACCESS TO PSYCHIATRIC
03:17:54.562 --> 03:17:55.663
SERVICES IN THIS BILL.
03:17:55.730 --> 03:17:57.732
AYE DOES JUST THAT THANK YOU FOR
03:17:57.799 --> 03:17:59.200
YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
03:17:59.267 --> 03:18:00.335
QUESTION FOR YOU EFFECTIVELY
03:18:00.401 --> 03:18:01.002
COULD -- IF
03:18:01.069 --> 03:18:02.470
YOU LOOK TO THE ANALYSIS AND SAW
03:18:02.537 --> 03:18:05.006
THERE WERE QUESTIONS WHETHER.
03:18:05.073 --> 03:18:06.674
THIS COULD NOT ALREADY BE DONE.
03:18:06.741 --> 03:18:08.743
YES ARM OF THE IT WAS A SURPRISE
03:18:08.810 --> 03:18:09.911
TO US AFTER WE'VE INTRODUCED A
03:18:09.978 --> 03:18:11.279
BILL TO FIND OUT THAT LEDGE
03:18:11.346 --> 03:18:13.047
COUNCIL HAD THE SAME.
03:18:13.114 --> 03:18:13.881
HOWEVER --
03:18:13.948 --> 03:18:16.851
IN ART DOING OUR SURVEY OF OF OF
03:18:16.918 --> 03:18:18.920
THE EFFECTIVE PROFESSIONS --
03:18:18.987 --> 03:18:20.989
OF THE LICENSING BOARDS --
03:18:21.055 --> 03:18:23.424
OF MANY OF THE COUNTIES NOBODY
03:18:23.491 --> 03:18:23.958
SEEMED TO BE AWARE OF THIS
03:18:24.025 --> 03:18:25.126
PROVISION.
03:18:25.193 --> 03:18:26.828
SO OUR BILL IS BY WAY OF
03:18:26.894 --> 03:18:28.763
CLARIFICATION IT DOES KIND OF
03:18:28.830 --> 03:18:30.798
UNDERLYING IT UNDERSCORED AT
03:18:30.865 --> 03:18:32.166
THIS CAN BE A PRACTICE.
03:18:32.233 --> 03:18:34.035
AND WE'RE JUST HOPING TO GET THE
03:18:34.102 --> 03:18:35.169
MESSAGE OUT THERE MAKE IT VERY
03:18:35.236 --> 03:18:36.704
CLEAR I MEAN HARSH BUT ALREADY
03:18:36.771 --> 03:18:38.873
UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN DO THIS --
03:18:38.940 --> 03:18:41.342
AND YOU KNOW I THINK THAT WOULD
03:18:41.409 --> 03:18:42.310
BE HELPFUL GRIP IT JUST VERY
03:18:42.377 --> 03:18:44.912
GREATLY HELPFUL.
03:18:44.979 --> 03:18:46.247
THANK YOU VERY MUCH CREATED THE
03:18:46.314 --> 03:18:47.148
RESPONSE.
03:18:47.215 --> 03:18:48.049
OF OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
03:18:48.116 --> 03:18:48.950
PLEDGE MISTER CHAIR TOM RENT
03:18:49.017 --> 03:18:49.917
FREE WITH THE COUNTY BEHAVIORAL
03:18:49.984 --> 03:18:51.352
HEALTH DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION IN
03:18:51.419 --> 03:18:55.356
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
03:18:55.423 --> 03:18:56.391
MR MEMBERS TO MADDEN RIBS IN THE
03:18:56.457 --> 03:18:57.392
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER OF AMERICAN
03:18:57.458 --> 03:18:59.594
BECAUSE EMERGENCY VISIONS IN
03:18:59.661 --> 03:19:01.029
SUPPORT THANK YOU MATT.
03:19:01.095 --> 03:19:02.163
KELLY BRICKS ON BEHALF OF THE
03:19:02.230 --> 03:19:03.431
ROLE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
03:19:03.498 --> 03:19:05.133
CALIFORNIA AND THE ASSOCIATION
03:19:05.199 --> 03:19:06.167
CALIFORNIA HEALTHCARE DISTRICTS
03:19:06.234 --> 03:19:08.269
HERE IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
03:19:08.336 --> 03:19:09.671
WITH HIM WE ARE GO WITH THE SAME
03:19:09.737 --> 03:19:12.507
BEGIN STUDENT SUPPORT THANK YOU.
03:19:12.573 --> 03:19:13.374
BLESS EM ON BEHALF OF THE
03:19:13.441 --> 03:19:15.109
CALIFORNIA ACADEMY OF CHILD AND
03:19:15.176 --> 03:19:16.010
ADOLESCENT PSYCHIATRY IN SUPPORT
03:19:16.077 --> 03:19:18.813
THANK YOU VERY MUCH --
03:19:18.880 --> 03:19:19.347
A IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
03:19:19.414 --> 03:19:32.860
OPPOSITION.
03:19:32.927 --> 03:19:33.695
ROSEANNE HOMES REPRESENTING THE
03:19:33.761 --> 03:19:35.596
BOARD OF BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES THE
03:19:35.663 --> 03:19:37.298
BOARD IS TAKEN AND OPPOSE A LOS
03:19:37.365 --> 03:19:39.667
AMENDED POSITION ON THIS BILL --
03:19:39.734 --> 03:19:40.968
BASICALLY THE BOARD A SUPPORTIVE
03:19:41.035 --> 03:19:42.203
OF THE CONCEPT OF NURSE
03:19:42.270 --> 03:19:44.072
PRACTITIONERS IN POSITIONS
03:19:44.138 --> 03:19:44.872
ASSISTANCE TO PRACTICE MENTAL
03:19:44.939 --> 03:19:45.606
HEALTH.
03:19:45.673 --> 03:19:46.774
BEING ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN
03:19:46.841 --> 03:19:48.543
THE GRANT PROGRAM --
03:19:48.609 --> 03:19:50.645
AS LONG AS THE FUNDING SOURCE --
03:19:50.712 --> 03:19:53.581
IS PAID IN BY THOSE LICENSE.
03:19:53.648 --> 03:19:55.149
THE BOARDS LICENSE TYPES PAYS A
03:19:55.216 --> 03:19:57.118
FEE INTO THE FUND AND THAT THEY
03:19:57.185 --> 03:19:59.220
ARE CORRESPONDINGLY ELIGIBLE FOR
03:19:59.287 --> 03:20:00.188
THOSE FUNDS PAID BY EACH OF
03:20:00.254 --> 03:20:02.724
THEIR LICENSE TYPES --
03:20:02.790 --> 03:20:03.858
BUT THE THE NEED FOR THE BILL'S
03:20:03.925 --> 03:20:05.259
LITTLE PUZZLING ON THE WAY THE
03:20:05.326 --> 03:20:06.260
LAW READS IF A NURSE
03:20:06.327 --> 03:20:07.595
PRACTITIONER OR PHYSICIAN'S
03:20:07.662 --> 03:20:09.831
ASSISTANTS WAS DULY LICENSED BY
03:20:09.897 --> 03:20:11.599
OUR BOARD OF THE MARRIAGE AND
03:20:11.666 --> 03:20:12.767
THEIR FAMILY THEIR FOSTER OF
03:20:12.834 --> 03:20:13.701
CLINICAL COUNTS.
03:20:13.768 --> 03:20:14.869
ALREADY ON THEY WOULD ALREADY BE
03:20:14.936 --> 03:20:16.504
ELIGIBLE --
03:20:16.571 --> 03:20:17.805
FOR FURTHER THE PROGRAM IF THEY
03:20:17.872 --> 03:20:19.640
WORKED IN A QUALIFYING SETTING --
03:20:19.707 --> 03:20:21.709
SO DESPITE HOW BY FACT OF HAVING
03:20:21.776 --> 03:20:23.077
ONE OF OUR LICENSE TYPES WHICH
03:20:23.144 --> 03:20:23.978
THE BOARD WHAT'S THE BILL
03:20:24.045 --> 03:20:25.813
SPECIFIES REQUIRED TO QUALIFY
03:20:25.880 --> 03:20:28.383
HERE THEY WOULD ALREADY BE
03:20:28.449 --> 03:20:30.485
ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM --
03:20:30.551 --> 03:20:31.819
AND THE BOARD ALSO RESPECTFULLY
03:20:31.886 --> 03:20:33.821
REQUESTS IN A PREVIOUS VERSION --
03:20:33.888 --> 03:20:35.256
OF THE BILL IF THE BILL WERE TO
03:20:35.323 --> 03:20:36.891
MOVE FORWARD THAT --
03:20:36.958 --> 03:20:38.059
THE BOARDS LICENSED EDUCATIONAL
03:20:38.126 --> 03:20:39.961
PSYCHOLOGISTS WERE PREVIOUSLY
03:20:40.027 --> 03:20:41.229
INCLUDED IN THE PULSE WE WOULD
03:20:41.295 --> 03:20:42.363
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THEY BE
03:20:42.430 --> 03:20:43.231
INCLUDED AGAIN AS WELL
03:20:43.297 --> 03:20:43.531
[inaudible]
03:20:43.598 --> 03:20:44.832
IF YOU.
03:20:44.899 --> 03:20:48.336
THERE'S IN OPPOSITION. THREE
03:20:48.403 --> 03:20:49.570
DIFFERENT BOARD OF PSYCHOLOGY
03:20:49.637 --> 03:20:50.972
AND WHERE I MOSTLY CONCERNED
03:20:51.038 --> 03:20:52.073
THAT IT PROVIDES --
03:20:52.140 --> 03:20:53.908
ACCESSED IS ALREADY SMALL FUNDS
03:20:53.975 --> 03:20:55.543
WE JUST GOT AN INCREASE IN THE
03:20:55.610 --> 03:20:58.246
FUND LAST YEAR ON THE PSYCHOLOGY --
03:20:58.312 --> 03:20:59.347
PSYCHOLOGISTS HAVE A SMALLER
03:20:59.414 --> 03:21:01.115
MOUNTAIN ARE FUN AS WELL I'M SO
03:21:01.182 --> 03:21:02.550
ADDITIONAL.
03:21:02.617 --> 03:21:03.684
DIVERSION OF THOSE FUNDS THAT'S
03:21:03.751 --> 03:21:05.086
MOSTLY WHAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
03:21:05.153 --> 03:21:07.321
IS ABOUT BUT WE DO --
03:21:07.388 --> 03:21:07.922
RECOGNIZE THAT RIGHT NOW EVEN
03:21:07.989 --> 03:21:11.159
WITH THE IT'S PROBABLY.
03:21:11.225 --> 03:21:12.393
NO WAY IF YOUR DUAL LICENSE YOU
03:21:12.460 --> 03:21:12.960
WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE
03:21:13.027 --> 03:21:15.229
FUNDS SO OUR PRIMARY CONCERN WAS
03:21:15.296 --> 03:21:18.833
THE FORMERLY LICENSED BY.
03:21:18.900 --> 03:21:20.034
THANK YOU FOR THE FOR THE
03:21:20.101 --> 03:21:21.436
TESTIMONY THERE IS IN FOR MEMBER
03:21:21.502 --> 03:21:23.237
THERE WAS OF FEE.
03:21:23.304 --> 03:21:25.139
REQUIRING THE FUNDS THAT ARE NOW
03:21:25.206 --> 03:21:26.874
GOING IN ONE DIRECTION THAT
03:21:26.941 --> 03:21:28.643
WOULD APPLY TO THE OTHER
03:21:28.709 --> 03:21:30.711
PROFESSIONS AS WELL IN THE GRANT
03:21:30.778 --> 03:21:32.880
PROGRAM NOT JUST SPECIFICALLY
03:21:32.947 --> 03:21:34.482
FOR THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY.
03:21:34.549 --> 03:21:37.618
UP BENEFITING FROM IT IS THAT.
03:21:37.685 --> 03:21:39.520
IS THAT DEVELOPER CREATED.
03:21:39.587 --> 03:21:41.556
PROP TWO EIGHTEEN TRAINED WHERE
03:21:41.622 --> 03:21:43.291
YOU'RE TAKING MONEY FROM ONE
03:21:43.357 --> 03:21:44.425
PARTICULAR PROFESSION AND NOT
03:21:44.492 --> 03:21:45.626
REQUIRING.
03:21:45.693 --> 03:21:46.461
OTHER PROFESSIONS TO BENEFIT
03:21:46.527 --> 03:21:50.631
FROM THAT.
03:21:50.698 --> 03:21:51.966
AND I DON'T KNOW AN ANSWER MY
03:21:52.033 --> 03:21:53.868
ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT THESE ARE
03:21:53.935 --> 03:21:55.603
CURRENT LICENSEES AND OTHER
03:21:55.670 --> 03:21:57.405
RESTRICTED TO THE FUNDS PADIAN
03:21:57.472 --> 03:22:00.041
BY THAT CATEGORY OF LICENSEES.
03:22:00.107 --> 03:22:01.476
SO -- WE
03:22:01.542 --> 03:22:02.577
ANTICIPATE THAT THOSE
03:22:02.643 --> 03:22:04.579
INDIVIDUALS WOULD MAINTAIN THEIR
03:22:04.645 --> 03:22:05.513
LICENSE HERE EVEN THOUGH THEY
03:22:05.580 --> 03:22:08.516
NOW ON AT A FUTURE DATE WILL BE --
03:22:08.583 --> 03:22:10.751
TRAINED AND THEN LICENSE AS AS
03:22:10.818 --> 03:22:12.119
ANOTHER KIND OF PRACTITIONER IN
03:22:12.186 --> 03:22:14.055
ON THE MEDICAL SIDE.
03:22:14.121 --> 03:22:17.024
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I SEE THAT
03:22:17.091 --> 03:22:17.792
THERE'S A DIFFICULTY HERE BUT I
03:22:17.859 --> 03:22:19.927
COULD BE WRONG.
03:22:19.994 --> 03:22:21.529
IT AND AND I MAY BE AS WELL SO
03:22:21.596 --> 03:22:23.231
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE
03:22:23.297 --> 03:22:24.532
IT WHEN THIS THE PLACE OUT WHERE
03:22:24.599 --> 03:22:25.500
IT WHERE THAT WOULD GO WITH
03:22:25.566 --> 03:22:28.035
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
03:22:28.102 --> 03:22:28.803
THE KNOW ONE THING IT BACK TO
03:22:28.870 --> 03:22:31.839
OUR COMMITTEE.
03:22:31.906 --> 03:22:34.375
FOR WE HAVE A MOTION WOULD YOU
03:22:34.442 --> 03:22:38.112
LIKE TO CLOSE I'M SORRY.
03:22:38.179 --> 03:22:39.981
WHEN IS THAT HER OWN CAN SIMPLY
03:22:40.047 --> 03:22:41.616
HOW THESE NEGOTIATIONS HAVE GONE?
03:22:41.682 --> 03:22:43.918
CREATING THESE FOLKS THE BILL.
03:22:43.985 --> 03:22:45.219
YEAH I'M SORRY I DIDN'T
03:22:45.286 --> 03:22:46.521
UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
03:22:46.587 --> 03:22:47.755
THEY SO YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE
03:22:47.822 --> 03:22:48.289
BILL NOT BEING [inaudible]
03:22:48.356 --> 03:22:50.091
INCLUSIVE ENOUGH.
03:22:50.157 --> 03:22:51.559
THE RIGHT ONE OF THE EARLIER
03:22:51.626 --> 03:22:52.660
PROVISIONS HAVE THE BOARDS
03:22:52.727 --> 03:22:53.494
LICENSE EDUCATIONAL
03:22:53.561 --> 03:22:55.930
PSYCHOLOGISTS --
03:22:55.997 --> 03:22:57.231
INCLUDED IN THE PROGRAM THERE OF
03:22:57.298 --> 03:22:58.766
WHAT THE BOARD HAS FOR LICENSE
03:22:58.833 --> 03:23:00.001
TYPES EDUCATIONAL PSYCHOLOGISTS
03:23:00.067 --> 03:23:01.769
ARE NOT IN CURRENTLY INCLUDED IN
03:23:01.836 --> 03:23:02.803
THIS PROGRAM THAT KIND OF OUR
03:23:02.870 --> 03:23:05.172
SMALLEST LICENSE TYPE --
03:23:05.239 --> 03:23:06.774
AND THE BOARD WAS SUPPORTIVE OF
03:23:06.841 --> 03:23:08.376
THAT OF HAVING THEM IN THE BILL
03:23:08.442 --> 03:23:08.976
AS LONG AS THEY WERE PAYING
03:23:09.043 --> 03:23:10.311
FUNDS AND LIKE OTHER LICENSE
03:23:10.378 --> 03:23:11.145
TYPES.
03:23:11.212 --> 03:23:12.580
WERE SO WE ONE OF OUR OUR
03:23:12.647 --> 03:23:14.181
REQUESTS WOULD BE TO INCLUDE
03:23:14.248 --> 03:23:15.750
EDUCATIONAL PSYCHOLOGISTS AGAIN
03:23:15.816 --> 03:23:17.818
AS WELL I'M HAVING THEM PAY INTO
03:23:17.885 --> 03:23:18.286
THE FEET.
03:23:18.352 --> 03:23:19.987
AND BEING ELIGIBLE FOR THE
03:23:20.054 --> 03:23:20.955
PROGRAM WE THINK THAT WOULD HELP
03:23:21.022 --> 03:23:23.157
ENCOURAGE THEM TO WORK IN
03:23:23.224 --> 03:23:24.792
UNDERSERVED AREAS AS WELL.
03:23:24.859 --> 03:23:25.426
SO I WANTED TO JUST GET A SENSE
03:23:25.493 --> 03:23:27.929
OF WHERE.
03:23:27.995 --> 03:23:29.096
THAT CONVERSATIONS GOING THE
03:23:29.163 --> 03:23:31.866
REST OF THIS.
03:23:31.933 --> 03:23:33.467
I'M I'M I'M NOT SURE ONE POINT
03:23:33.534 --> 03:23:34.735
THAT WE HAD IN THE BAY HAD
03:23:34.802 --> 03:23:35.937
INDICATED THAT THEY ARE
03:23:36.003 --> 03:23:37.004
CONSIDERING PUTTING THEM BACK
03:23:37.071 --> 03:23:38.039
AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT
03:23:38.105 --> 03:23:39.574
AMENDMENT.
03:23:39.640 --> 03:23:41.008
YEAH BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON
03:23:41.075 --> 03:23:43.644
THE TABLE STILL ARE NOT.
03:23:43.711 --> 03:23:44.845
IF MISTER CHAIR WILL ALLOW ME OF
03:23:44.912 --> 03:23:45.479
COURSE --
03:23:45.546 --> 03:23:47.915
AYE AYE WE WE WERE CONSIDERING --
03:23:47.982 --> 03:23:49.517
THIS AND WE HAVE BEEN FOR SOME
03:23:49.584 --> 03:23:50.785
TIME -- IT
03:23:50.851 --> 03:23:53.421
IT WASN'T AS CLEAR TO US AS THE
03:23:53.487 --> 03:23:54.655
OTHER PROFESSIONS OF LICENSE
03:23:54.722 --> 03:23:55.923
EDUCATIONAL PSYCHOLOGISTS HAVE A
03:23:55.990 --> 03:23:57.425
NEXUS WITH THINGS LIKE FOR
03:23:57.491 --> 03:23:58.526
INSTANCE COUNTY BEHAVIORAL
03:23:58.593 --> 03:24:00.094
HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.
03:24:00.161 --> 03:24:02.163
WHICH IS ONE OF THE TARGETS IF
03:24:02.229 --> 03:24:04.098
YOU WILL OF PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD
03:24:04.165 --> 03:24:04.966
LIKE TO SEE --
03:24:05.032 --> 03:24:07.468
GOING INTO THE PROGRAM BUT WE'RE
03:24:07.535 --> 03:24:09.470
CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT I THINK
03:24:09.537 --> 03:24:11.439
THERE IS NO BARRIER IF IF WE CAN
03:24:11.505 --> 03:24:12.573
BE SATISFIED THAT THEY WOULD AND
03:24:12.640 --> 03:24:14.642
IN FACT --
03:24:14.709 --> 03:24:16.944
BE ABLE TO BE AND UNDERSERVED
03:24:17.011 --> 03:24:18.045
AREAS -- IS
03:24:18.112 --> 03:24:20.615
JUST IT IT IT JUST IS DIFFERENT
03:24:20.681 --> 03:24:22.717
A DIFFERENT CATEGORY.
03:24:22.783 --> 03:24:25.886
OF OF A LICENSEE THAN THE OTHERS --
03:24:25.953 --> 03:24:29.056
WHO COULD GO WORK AND YOU BERNIE --
03:24:29.123 --> 03:24:30.491
OR OUT IN SANDRA NEEDED DINO
03:24:30.558 --> 03:24:33.194
COUNTY OR OR FOR COUNTY MENTAL
03:24:33.260 --> 03:24:35.162
HEALTH DEPARTMENT SO --
03:24:35.229 --> 03:24:40.601
WHEN WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT
03:24:40.668 --> 03:24:40.901
[inaudible]
03:24:40.968 --> 03:24:42.470
BOARD BELIEVE.
03:24:42.536 --> 03:24:43.270
BUT THEY DO HAVE AN APPROPRIATE
03:24:43.337 --> 03:24:45.006
SCOPE AND I'D BE HAPPY TO GET --
03:24:45.072 --> 03:24:46.340
PROVIDE YOU WITH WITH SOME
03:24:46.407 --> 03:24:47.942
INFORMATION ON DESCRIBING NOT
03:24:48.009 --> 03:24:53.814
FURTHER.
03:24:53.881 --> 03:24:55.082
THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WE
03:24:55.149 --> 03:24:56.117
DO HAVE A MOTION NOW BY SENATOR
03:24:56.183 --> 03:24:58.753
GLAZER --
03:24:58.819 --> 03:25:00.655
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL WOULD LIKE
03:25:00.721 --> 03:25:01.288
TO CLOSE ASSEMBLY MEMBER OF THE
03:25:01.355 --> 03:25:02.490
HOUSE.
03:25:02.556 --> 03:25:03.090
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
03:25:03.157 --> 03:25:04.992
THANK YOU.
03:25:05.059 --> 03:25:06.794
MISSION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
03:25:06.861 --> 03:25:09.096
HEALTH COMMITTEE HILL AYE HILL
03:25:09.163 --> 03:25:09.397
AYE FULLER.
03:25:09.463 --> 03:25:11.032
TALENT.
03:25:11.098 --> 03:25:14.268
ALLEN I DON GALGIANI GLAZER.
03:25:14.335 --> 03:25:16.671
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ PAN AYE AN
03:25:16.737 --> 03:25:20.675
AYE WILK. FOR VOTE TO UPHOLD THE
03:25:20.741 --> 03:25:22.410
RULE OVER FOR AFTER MEMBERS
03:25:22.476 --> 03:25:25.312
THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
03:25:25.379 --> 03:25:26.247
THANK YOU ASSEMBLYMEMBER
03:25:26.313 --> 03:25:27.748
MAIENSCHEIN [inaudible]
03:25:27.815 --> 03:25:32.753
GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:25:32.820 --> 03:25:34.388
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL I READ
03:25:34.455 --> 03:25:35.990
IT HERE.
03:25:36.057 --> 03:25:36.424
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY.
03:25:36.490 --> 03:25:37.058
FUTURE [inaudible]
03:25:37.124 --> 03:25:40.394
VERY GLAD.
03:25:40.461 --> 03:25:42.196
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OFF MISTER
03:25:42.263 --> 03:25:43.364
CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
03:25:43.431 --> 03:25:44.965
AB TWENTY THREE HUNDRED WHAT
03:25:45.032 --> 03:25:45.933
AUTHORIZED VETERINARIANS TO
03:25:46.000 --> 03:25:47.802
FULFILL PART OF THEIR SELF STUDY
03:25:47.868 --> 03:25:49.503
CONTINUING EDUCATION COURSE WORK
03:25:49.570 --> 03:25:50.738
ASSOCIATE WITH PRO BONO SPAN
03:25:50.805 --> 03:25:52.606
NEUTER SERVICES.
03:25:52.673 --> 03:25:53.874
VOLUNTARY SPAY NEUTER FOR CATS
03:25:53.941 --> 03:25:55.109
AND DOGS HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN
03:25:55.176 --> 03:25:56.744
PROVEN AS AN EFFECTIVE METHOD IN
03:25:56.811 --> 03:25:57.978
REDUCING SHELTER INTAKE AND
03:25:58.045 --> 03:25:59.780
EUTHANASIA RATES.
03:25:59.847 --> 03:26:01.048
SOME CALIFORNIA JURISDICTIONS
03:26:01.115 --> 03:26:02.349
HAVE ADOPTED LAWS THAT REQUIRE
03:26:02.416 --> 03:26:03.417
MANDATORY ALTERATION OF DOGS AND
03:26:03.484 --> 03:26:05.086
CATS.
03:26:05.152 --> 03:26:06.554
BUT UNFORTUNATELY COST AS A
03:26:06.620 --> 03:26:08.022
PRIMARY BARRIER TO SPAY AND
03:26:08.089 --> 03:26:08.956
NEUTER SURGERY IN MANY
03:26:09.023 --> 03:26:10.925
COMMUNITIES LOWER INCOME PET
03:26:10.991 --> 03:26:13.127
OWNERS MOST COMMONLY SITE HIGH
03:26:13.194 --> 03:26:13.994
COSTS AS THE REASON FOR NOT
03:26:14.061 --> 03:26:15.696
ALTERING THEIR CATS.
03:26:15.763 --> 03:26:17.465
OR OR AYE DOGS THE UNINTENDED
03:26:17.531 --> 03:26:19.233
CONSEQUENCE OF THESE LAWS FOR
03:26:19.300 --> 03:26:20.701
MANY LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS IS
03:26:20.768 --> 03:26:21.469
OF THE RELINQUISHMENT OF A
03:26:21.535 --> 03:26:23.137
BELOVED FAMILY PET TO A LOCAL
03:26:23.204 --> 03:26:25.106
SHELTER GET THE HIGH COSTS --
03:26:25.172 --> 03:26:26.640
OF ALTERATION WHICH CAN EASILY
03:26:26.707 --> 03:26:27.942
GOING TO THE HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS
03:26:28.008 --> 03:26:29.276
RESEARCH INDICATES THAT
03:26:29.343 --> 03:26:30.578
RELINQUISHMENT OF PETS TO
03:26:30.644 --> 03:26:32.012
SHELTERS OUR GREATEST FROM AREAS
03:26:32.079 --> 03:26:33.547
WHERE POVERTY LEVELS ARE HIGH.
03:26:33.614 --> 03:26:34.915
BY ALLOWING VETS TICKET OBTAINED
03:26:34.982 --> 03:26:36.417
CONTINUING EDUCATION CREDIT BY
03:26:36.484 --> 03:26:38.018
PERFORMING QUALIFIED SPAN NEUTER
03:26:38.085 --> 03:26:38.953
SURGERIES.
03:26:39.019 --> 03:26:39.920
IS LIKELY TO INCREASE THE NUMBER
03:26:39.987 --> 03:26:41.055
OF THAT'S WILLING TO PROVIDE
03:26:41.122 --> 03:26:42.656
SUCH SERVICES BOTH NEW YORK AND
03:26:42.723 --> 03:26:43.958
NEW JERSEY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY
03:26:44.024 --> 03:26:45.459
IMPLEMENTED PROGRAMS
03:26:45.526 --> 03:26:46.761
INCENTIVIZING VETS.
03:26:46.827 --> 03:26:47.862
DIFFERENT CONTINUING EDUCATION
03:26:47.928 --> 03:26:49.463
CREDITS WHICH HELP THEM GAIN
03:26:49.530 --> 03:26:51.565
MULTIPLE EDUCATION BENEFITS.
03:26:51.632 --> 03:26:52.900
EXISTING LAW REQUIRES ALL ACTIVE
03:26:52.967 --> 03:26:54.268
VETS TO COMPLETE THIRTY SIX
03:26:54.335 --> 03:26:55.336
HOURS OF CONTINUING EDUCATION
03:26:55.402 --> 03:26:56.203
EVERY TWO YEARS TO MAINTAIN
03:26:56.270 --> 03:26:57.705
THEIR LICENSE.
03:26:57.772 --> 03:26:59.340
AB TWENTY THREE HUNDRED WOULD
03:26:59.406 --> 03:27:00.040
ALLOW THESE VATS TO COMPLETE
03:27:00.107 --> 03:27:01.275
THEIR MANDATORY FOR HOURS OF
03:27:01.342 --> 03:27:02.910
SELF STUDY COURSE WORK BY
03:27:02.977 --> 03:27:04.411
VOLUNTEERING WITHIN LOWER INCOME
03:27:04.478 --> 03:27:05.112
COMMUNITIES.
03:27:05.179 --> 03:27:06.680
AND POVIDING CRUCIAL SPAY
03:27:06.747 --> 03:27:07.982
NEUTER SURGERY SEVERAL ASSIST
03:27:08.048 --> 03:27:09.850
FOR SHELTER OVERCROWDING WITH ME
03:27:09.917 --> 03:27:12.086
TO TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF AB
03:27:12.153 --> 03:27:12.686
TWENTY THREE HUNDRED IS SUSAN
03:27:12.753 --> 03:27:14.555
RAGS SENIOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
03:27:14.622 --> 03:27:17.158
FOR A S. PCI.
03:27:17.224 --> 03:27:18.559
GOOD AFTERNOON* WHO'S IN
03:27:18.626 --> 03:27:19.860
RAGS --
03:27:19.927 --> 03:27:20.661
THOUGHT THAT THE CONCEPT OF THIS
03:27:20.728 --> 03:27:22.196
BILL IS REALLY DRAWN FROM OUR ON
03:27:22.263 --> 03:27:23.597
THE GROUNDWORK IN THE COUNTY OF
03:27:23.664 --> 03:27:25.266
LA WHERE WE'RE SEEING HIGH RATES
03:27:25.332 --> 03:27:26.801
OF RELINQUISHMENT LOW INCOME
03:27:26.867 --> 03:27:27.268
COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY
03:27:27.334 --> 03:27:28.402
INVOLVEMENT PARK.
03:27:28.469 --> 03:27:29.470
AND DOWNEY WHICH ARE BOTH LOW
03:27:29.537 --> 03:27:32.973
AND CALM A COMMUNITIES WHERE ARE
03:27:33.040 --> 03:27:34.575
OUT THERE ARE MANDATORY SPAY
03:27:34.642 --> 03:27:38.112
NEUTER LAWS AND AS THAT EMMA
03:27:38.179 --> 03:27:39.847
CONTROL OFFICERS ARE GOING OUT
03:27:39.914 --> 03:27:40.981
TO THE COMMUNITY AND ON ITS WAY
03:27:41.048 --> 03:27:42.483
VIOLATIONS WERE SEEING THE
03:27:42.550 --> 03:27:44.185
RESULT OF THAT BEING THAT.
03:27:44.251 --> 03:27:45.586
THAT THE AND RATHER THAN I'M
03:27:45.653 --> 03:27:47.555
GOING THROUGH TO GET THE SPAY
03:27:47.621 --> 03:27:49.523
AND NEUTER SURGERIES THAT UNFAIR
03:27:49.590 --> 03:27:50.791
YOUR STEPDAD REALLY ARE CAUSING
03:27:50.858 --> 03:27:51.892
RELINQUISHMENT --
03:27:51.959 --> 03:27:52.827
THAT THE LACK OF THAT NAY
03:27:52.893 --> 03:27:54.361
SERVICES THESE COMMUNITIES
03:27:54.428 --> 03:27:56.463
ACOSTA TAKEN DAY OFF WORK AND
03:27:56.530 --> 03:27:58.032
YOU'RE TRANSPORTING A PAT TO GET
03:27:58.098 --> 03:27:59.366
THE SURGERY DONE THE COST OF
03:27:59.433 --> 03:28:00.601
THAT THE SURGERY AND SO THERE'S
03:28:00.668 --> 03:28:02.036
MULTIPLE BARRIERS.
03:28:02.102 --> 03:28:03.137
TO THESE COMMUNITY SO WE WERE
03:28:03.204 --> 03:28:05.306
HOPING THAT THE ON THE BILL WILL
03:28:05.372 --> 03:28:07.141
REALLY DRIVE SOME NEW INTEREST
03:28:07.208 --> 03:28:08.876
IN AND I'M BRINGING THOSE
03:28:08.943 --> 03:28:09.743
SERVICES BACK TO LOW INCOME
03:28:09.810 --> 03:28:11.212
COMMUNITIES SO THAT WE CAN AVOID
03:28:11.278 --> 03:28:12.813
THAT CIRCUMSTANCE --
03:28:12.880 --> 03:28:14.248
BEYOND THAT YOU KNOW WE REALLY
03:28:14.315 --> 03:28:15.015
LOOK AT THAT AS BEING
03:28:15.082 --> 03:28:16.016
COMPLIMENTARY TO THE WHOLE
03:28:16.083 --> 03:28:18.452
PACKAGE OF CONTINUING EDUCATION
03:28:18.519 --> 03:28:20.020
FOR VETERINARIANS WHICH IS VERY
03:28:20.087 --> 03:28:21.222
ON HOLISTIC.
03:28:21.288 --> 03:28:22.323
ON THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY THE
03:28:22.389 --> 03:28:24.592
TRADITIONAL ASPECTS THAT HAVE TO
03:28:24.658 --> 03:28:26.393
DO WITH THE TECHNICAL SKILLS
03:28:26.460 --> 03:28:28.662
THAT THAT I'M REALLY KEEP --
03:28:28.729 --> 03:28:30.664
YOUR THE MEDICAL ASPECTS OF
03:28:30.731 --> 03:28:32.967
CONTINUED EDUCATION AND FRESH
03:28:33.033 --> 03:28:34.335
BUT IN ADDITION AND YOUR THAT
03:28:34.401 --> 03:28:36.136
MARIANNE'S IN THEIR PACKAGE --
03:28:36.203 --> 03:28:37.438
VOLUNTARY --
03:28:37.504 --> 03:28:38.806
ACTIVITIES AND THE CONTINUING
03:28:38.873 --> 03:28:40.407
EDUCATION CAN ALSO DO THINGS
03:28:40.474 --> 03:28:41.942
LIKE STRESS MANAGEMENT THEY CAN
03:28:42.009 --> 03:28:46.280
DO --
03:28:46.347 --> 03:28:47.748
PROCTOR IN FOR VETERINARY EXAMS
03:28:47.815 --> 03:28:48.515
THEY CAN DO YOU --
03:28:48.582 --> 03:28:50.017
YOUR BUSINESS MANAGEMENT COURSES
03:28:50.084 --> 03:28:51.752
A WHOLE WIDE VARIETY OF
03:28:51.819 --> 03:28:53.988
ACTIVITIES IN ADDITION TO THE
03:28:54.054 --> 03:28:54.822
TRADITIONAL ACTIVITIES AND SO
03:28:54.889 --> 03:28:55.890
THIS WE SEE THIS IS
03:28:55.956 --> 03:28:56.924
COMPLEMENTARY IS SOMETHING THAT
03:28:56.991 --> 03:28:57.491
REALLY.
03:28:57.558 --> 03:28:58.859
ENGAGES THE VETERINARIANS IN
03:28:58.926 --> 03:29:00.327
COMMUNITIES THAT MET THEY MAY
03:29:00.394 --> 03:29:01.695
NOT HAVE --
03:29:01.762 --> 03:29:02.997
A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH AS WELL
03:29:03.063 --> 03:29:05.466
AS JUST YOUR BUILDING GOOD WELL
03:29:05.532 --> 03:29:06.000
GENERALLY FOR THE FACTORY
03:29:06.066 --> 03:29:06.667
COMMUNITY.
03:29:06.734 --> 03:29:07.768
VERY GOOD THANK YOU OTHER
03:29:07.835 --> 03:29:11.672
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
03:29:11.739 --> 03:29:12.873
VOIGTS AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN
03:29:12.940 --> 03:29:13.774
MEMBERS JENNIFER FEARING ON
03:29:13.841 --> 03:29:15.109
BEHALF OF THE BEST FRIENDS
03:29:15.175 --> 03:29:16.410
ANIMAL SOCIETY THE SAN DIEGO
03:29:16.477 --> 03:29:17.912
HUMANE SOCIETY AND THE SAN
03:29:17.978 --> 03:29:19.813
FRANCISCO SPCA IN STRONG SUPPORT
03:29:19.880 --> 03:29:22.116
YOU KNOW WE WILL BE PART OF WHAT
03:29:22.182 --> 03:29:23.984
VETERINARIANS EDUCATION IS
03:29:24.051 --> 03:29:24.919
WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR
03:29:24.985 --> 03:29:26.553
COMMUNITIES WHAT'S AFFECTING.
03:29:26.620 --> 03:29:28.355
ANIMALS AND THEIR OWNERS AND I
03:29:28.422 --> 03:29:29.423
THINK THIS GOESA LONG WAY TO
03:29:29.490 --> 03:29:31.425
HELPING AND POTENTIALLY DRIVE
03:29:31.492 --> 03:29:32.993
MORE THAN ARYANS TO DEEPEN.
03:29:33.060 --> 03:29:34.028
THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EDUCATION OF
03:29:34.094 --> 03:29:37.698
OF PROBLEMS THAT I'M WE'RE
03:29:37.765 --> 03:29:38.332
DEALING WITH AN ANIMAL WELFARE
03:29:38.399 --> 03:29:39.733
SO WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT THANK
03:29:39.800 --> 03:29:40.868
YOU VERY MUCH FOR SURE AND
03:29:40.935 --> 03:29:41.936
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
03:29:42.002 --> 03:29:42.436
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
03:29:42.503 --> 03:29:44.138
OPPOSITION.
03:29:44.204 --> 03:29:45.306
YOU KNOW ONE THING YOU BACK TO
03:29:45.372 --> 03:29:46.941
THE COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION
03:29:47.007 --> 03:29:49.610
AS SENATOR PAT.
03:29:49.677 --> 03:29:52.079
THANK YOU AND AYE I THINK YOUR
03:29:52.146 --> 03:29:52.980
SUMMER MAIENSCHEIN FOR YOUR
03:29:53.047 --> 03:29:54.048
EFFORTS TO TRY TO ADDRESS --
03:29:54.114 --> 03:29:57.051
THIS ISSUE ABOUT --
03:29:57.117 --> 03:29:58.552
BEING SURE PEOPLE ACCESS TO
03:29:58.619 --> 03:29:59.586
SPACE KNOW SPAIN NEUTERING
03:29:59.653 --> 03:30:00.788
SERVICES AND CERTAINLY.
03:30:00.854 --> 03:30:02.156
I ACTUALLY DID A BILL TO TRY TO
03:30:02.222 --> 03:30:03.590
ADDRESS SOME ASPECTS OF THAT.
03:30:03.657 --> 03:30:05.326
PREVIOUS ONE THOUSAND ASSEMBLY
03:30:05.392 --> 03:30:05.993
AS WELL.
03:30:06.060 --> 03:30:08.662
SO CERTAINLY I HAVE NO ACTUALLY
03:30:08.729 --> 03:30:09.496
FOR SO NO PROBLEM ACTUALLY
03:30:09.563 --> 03:30:11.598
STRONGLY SUPPORT WHAT YOUR GOALS
03:30:11.665 --> 03:30:12.833
ARE FOR THE BILL.
03:30:12.900 --> 03:30:15.703
I GUESS MY KALENJIN AND THOSE ON
03:30:15.769 --> 03:30:16.737
CONSENT MADE DID THOUGHT IS IS
03:30:16.804 --> 03:30:19.974
THAT -- IN
03:30:20.040 --> 03:30:21.141
TERMS OF CONTINUING <c.green> USING</c>
03:30:21.208 --> 03:30:23.410
CONTINUING EDUCATION CREDITS AS
03:30:23.477 --> 03:30:25.512
AN INCENTIVE FOR SOMEONE TO A
03:30:25.579 --> 03:30:28.449
PROFESSIONAL --
03:30:28.515 --> 03:30:29.516
TO TO ENGAGE AND SUCH A
03:30:29.583 --> 03:30:34.254
PREVENTIVE SERVICES AND BECAUSE
03:30:34.321 --> 03:30:36.156
MY MIND NOW CONTINUING EDUCATION
03:30:36.223 --> 03:30:37.358
THE REASON WE HAVE CONTINUE
03:30:37.424 --> 03:30:39.493
EDUCATION STANDARDS IS TO ALLOW
03:30:39.560 --> 03:30:41.228
PEOPLE -- TO
03:30:41.295 --> 03:30:42.529
KEEP UP THEIR EXPERTISE IN THE
03:30:42.596 --> 03:30:44.131
PROFESSION THAT'S THAT'S THE
03:30:44.198 --> 03:30:45.165
REASON WE HAVE THOSE
03:30:45.232 --> 03:30:45.899
REQUIREMENTS.
03:30:45.966 --> 03:30:47.434
THEY'LL LOOK TO SCIENCE KEEPS
03:30:47.501 --> 03:30:49.403
MOVING THERE'S A FEW THINGS THEY
03:30:49.470 --> 03:30:50.170
DISCOVER IT CETERA.
03:30:50.237 --> 03:30:51.638
AND SO WHILE CERTAINLY THERE ARE
03:30:51.705 --> 03:30:53.741
SOME OF TO ENSURE EDUCATIONAL
03:30:53.807 --> 03:30:54.742
ASPECTS --
03:30:54.808 --> 03:30:56.443
THAT THOSE WERE WERE RELATE TO
03:30:56.510 --> 03:30:59.246
IN THE TESTIMONY I AM CONCERNED
03:30:59.313 --> 03:31:00.481
ABOUT --
03:31:00.547 --> 03:31:02.449
SETTING A PRECEDENT AND I KNOW
03:31:02.516 --> 03:31:03.751
THAT THIS WAS DONE IN SOME OTHER
03:31:03.817 --> 03:31:04.685
STATES IN TERMS OF VETERINARY
03:31:04.752 --> 03:31:06.653
BUT WHERE WE BASICALLY SAY FOR
03:31:06.720 --> 03:31:09.490
CONTINUING EDUCATION --
03:31:09.556 --> 03:31:11.258
YOU CAN DO SOME SERVICE THAT
03:31:11.325 --> 03:31:12.526
DOESN'T HAVE A VERY EXPLICIT
03:31:12.593 --> 03:31:14.995
EDUCATIONAL ASPECT AFTERALL I'M
03:31:15.062 --> 03:31:16.397
FIRST A DISSERVICE LEARNING.
03:31:16.463 --> 03:31:18.332
UP PROGRAMS I BELIEVE SERVICE
03:31:18.399 --> 03:31:20.167
CAN BE EDUCATIONAL BUT IT HAS TO
03:31:20.234 --> 03:31:21.969
BE VERY NEEDS TO BE EXPLICIT FOR
03:31:22.036 --> 03:31:24.972
IT TO GET CONTINUE. TO ME TO TO
03:31:25.039 --> 03:31:25.739
TO SURFACED THE MODE OF ITS
03:31:25.806 --> 03:31:27.574
CONTINUING EDUCATION.
03:31:27.641 --> 03:31:29.743
AND Y. CERTAINLY ALSO UNDERSTAND
03:31:29.810 --> 03:31:32.413
THAT. FOR VETERINARIANS THE
03:31:32.479 --> 03:31:34.515
CONTINUE EDUCATION --
03:31:34.581 --> 03:31:36.250
PORTION THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT
03:31:36.316 --> 03:31:37.551
SUBSTITUTING IS SERVE THE SELF
03:31:37.618 --> 03:31:38.819
STUDY THERE'D BEEN SOME
03:31:38.886 --> 03:31:40.387
QUESTIONS ABOUT.
03:31:40.454 --> 03:31:41.388
HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS OR HOW MUCH
03:31:41.455 --> 03:31:43.824
PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO --
03:31:43.891 --> 03:31:45.426
IF TRULY IT'S INEFFECTIVE THAT
03:31:45.492 --> 03:31:47.061
PERHAPS WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT
03:31:47.127 --> 03:31:49.096
IS THAT BODY DO WE STILL
03:31:49.163 --> 03:31:49.730
CONTINUE REQUIRE IT IF IT'S NOT
03:31:49.797 --> 03:31:50.464
REALLY ME.
03:31:50.531 --> 03:31:51.465
ACTION OR RAISING THE STANDARDS
03:31:51.532 --> 03:31:54.068
BUT SIMPLY.
03:31:54.134 --> 03:31:57.204
OF LIMON SELF SO THAT'S MY ISSUE
03:31:57.271 --> 03:31:59.606
WITH IT PERSONALLY --
03:31:59.673 --> 03:32:00.240
I I'D.
03:32:00.307 --> 03:32:01.275
I'D DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM
03:32:01.341 --> 03:32:02.576
WITH THE BILL MOVING FORWARD BUT
03:32:02.643 --> 03:32:05.979
I UNFORTUNATE DO NOT FEEL LIKE I
03:32:06.046 --> 03:32:07.047
CAN SUPPORT AT THE TIME YOU I'M
03:32:07.114 --> 03:32:07.848
NOT SURE.
03:32:07.915 --> 03:32:09.083
THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE TRADE OFF
03:32:09.149 --> 03:32:10.818
I THINK THAT THE WE SHOULD THINK
03:32:10.884 --> 03:32:12.719
ABOUT INCENTIVES FOR DOING
03:32:12.786 --> 03:32:14.788
EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
03:32:14.855 --> 03:32:15.355
I THINK --
03:32:15.422 --> 03:32:15.856
YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S A
03:32:15.923 --> 03:32:16.990
REDUCTION IN FEES OR SOME OTHER
03:32:17.057 --> 03:32:18.358
KIND OF RECOGNITION.
03:32:18.425 --> 03:32:19.827
I AM CONCERNED THOUGH THAT WE
03:32:19.893 --> 03:32:21.395
SERVE CONFLATING [inaudible]
03:32:21.462 --> 03:32:22.996
TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
03:32:23.063 --> 03:32:24.631
IN TERMS OF SAYING THAT WELL YOU
03:32:24.698 --> 03:32:25.532
CAN DO THIS FOR CONTINUING
03:32:25.599 --> 03:32:27.468
EDUCATION.
03:32:27.534 --> 03:32:29.036
BUT THEN WAS THAT SAYING ABOUT
03:32:29.103 --> 03:32:30.037
THE CONTINUING EDUCATION
03:32:30.104 --> 03:32:31.905
REQUIREMENT FOR VETERINARIANS
03:32:31.972 --> 03:32:33.407
AND THEN ALSO MORE AT LARGE IS
03:32:33.474 --> 03:32:35.209
SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN --
03:32:35.275 --> 03:32:36.410
THIS IT'S CHAIR KNOWS THAT
03:32:36.477 --> 03:32:37.744
THEY'RE TRYING TO PUSH ON THE
03:32:37.811 --> 03:32:38.912
STANDARD SIXTEEN EDUCATION WE'RE
03:32:38.979 --> 03:32:40.114
GOING TO REQUIRE IT AND WE THINK
03:32:40.180 --> 03:32:41.448
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT
03:32:41.515 --> 03:32:43.484
FOR PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
03:32:43.550 --> 03:32:44.051
SHOULD BE SURE IT'S OF HIGH
03:32:44.118 --> 03:32:45.185
QUALITY THERE'S NO CONFLICT
03:32:45.252 --> 03:32:48.055
INTERESTS OTHER TYPES OF THINGS --
03:32:48.122 --> 03:32:49.056
OTHERWISE WARILY REQUIRING DOING
03:32:49.123 --> 03:32:51.525
EDUCATION BUT FRANKLY I DO THINK
03:32:51.592 --> 03:32:52.426
YOU'LL THINGS DO CHANGE IN
03:32:52.493 --> 03:32:53.060
PROFESSIONALS NEED TO STAY ON
03:32:53.127 --> 03:32:54.361
TOP OF IT SO I'M JUST CONCERNED
03:32:54.428 --> 03:32:56.163
THAT.
03:32:56.230 --> 03:32:57.264
WELL CERTAINLY THE CALL THIS
03:32:57.331 --> 03:32:58.765
BILL WAS SOMETHING I STRONGLY
03:32:58.832 --> 03:32:59.366
SUPPORT I APPRECIATE YOU BRING
03:32:59.433 --> 03:33:01.068
FORWARD CONCERNED ABOUT USING
03:33:01.135 --> 03:33:03.370
CONTINUE EDUCATION CREDITS AS A
03:33:03.437 --> 03:33:05.372
AS THE INCENTIVE BECAUSE I THINK
03:33:05.439 --> 03:33:06.907
THEN THERE'S ON THE CONTINUE
03:33:06.974 --> 03:33:07.908
EDUCATION SIDE.
03:33:07.975 --> 03:33:09.743
WERE SORT OF DEVALUING.
03:33:09.810 --> 03:33:11.545
ARE SAYING THAT THE CONTINUING
03:33:11.612 --> 03:33:13.413
EDUCATION PORTION.
03:33:13.480 --> 03:33:14.715
THE NEED TO KEEP ON TOP THERE'S
03:33:14.781 --> 03:33:16.083
LESS IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY
03:33:16.150 --> 03:33:16.984
DON'T NEED TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME
03:33:17.050 --> 03:33:20.087
ON SO.
03:33:20.154 --> 03:33:21.622
SO WHAT THAT I APPRECIATE YOU
03:33:21.688 --> 03:33:22.256
BRING THE BILL FORWARD I
03:33:22.322 --> 03:33:24.358
CERTAINLY --
03:33:24.424 --> 03:33:27.828
YELLED DO NOT URGING MY FELLOW
03:33:27.895 --> 03:33:28.729
COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT TO VOTE
03:33:28.795 --> 03:33:29.663
FOR THE BILL BUT I JUST
03:33:29.730 --> 03:33:33.200
PERSONALLY ABSENCE CHALLENGES.
03:33:33.267 --> 03:33:35.369
IT'S IS TO OF COURSE YEAH I AM
03:33:35.435 --> 03:33:36.036
AND I'M GONNA PAN YOU KNOW THANK
03:33:36.103 --> 03:33:37.104
YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE
03:33:37.171 --> 03:33:38.338
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD ON THIS.
03:33:38.405 --> 03:33:40.641
IKE AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINTS
03:33:40.707 --> 03:33:42.609
I THINK THEY'RE A AND I THINK IT
03:33:42.676 --> 03:33:43.710
WILL TAKE AND I TH.
03:33:43.777 --> 03:33:44.678
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS AN AND I AND
03:33:44.745 --> 03:33:46.747
I LOOK AT IT WITH SUPERSPEEDWAYS
03:33:46.813 --> 03:33:48.282
HOUSE AS A LAWYER WHO IT HAS TO
03:33:48.348 --> 03:33:50.651
WHO AS A PRACTICING LAWYER ADDED
03:33:50.717 --> 03:33:51.652
YOU CONTINUING EDUCATION CRIME?
03:33:51.718 --> 03:33:52.719
SOME OF THEM THAT THE THIS.
03:33:52.786 --> 03:33:53.820
IT IT THEY ARE KIND OF
03:33:53.887 --> 03:33:55.589
CONSIDERED AS A CLASS YOU COULD
03:33:55.656 --> 03:33:56.723
COME TO CONSIDER THEM AS A CLASS
03:33:56.790 --> 03:33:58.158
OR CATEGORIES RIGHT.
03:33:58.225 --> 03:33:59.927
EN AND I TEND TO SORT OF AGREE
03:33:59.993 --> 03:34:00.961
WITH YOU WHAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
03:34:01.028 --> 03:34:02.462
IS THERE'S PROBABLY AT A
03:34:02.529 --> 03:34:04.198
SOMEWHAT HIGHER VALUE ON THE
03:34:04.264 --> 03:34:05.132
ONES THAT ARE.
03:34:05.199 --> 03:34:06.867
MAY BE TEACHING A NEW TREND IN
03:34:06.934 --> 03:34:09.269
THE LOCKER NEW TREND IN MEDICINE
03:34:09.336 --> 03:34:09.836
NUTRITION TREND IN GUNNERY
03:34:09.903 --> 03:34:10.938
PRACTICE THAT WHAT WOULD.
03:34:11.004 --> 03:34:12.105
PROBABLY YOU COULD CLASSIFY AS A
03:34:12.172 --> 03:34:14.875
TRADITIONAL THEN THERE'S THE
03:34:14.942 --> 03:34:16.243
OTHER CATEGORIES WHETHER IT'S
03:34:16.310 --> 03:34:18.212
SELF STUDY OR IT MAY BE LIKES
03:34:18.278 --> 03:34:20.080
FOR EXAMPLE AND LAW IN MAY BE.
03:34:20.147 --> 03:34:21.582
WORK AT HOMELESS CORKER DRUG
03:34:21.648 --> 03:34:22.482
COURT DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT
03:34:22.549 --> 03:34:24.618
WHERE YOU'RE HELPING YOUR
03:34:24.685 --> 03:34:25.852
VETERANS COURTS YOU MAYBE.
03:34:25.919 --> 03:34:27.054
IT IT'S NOT SO MUCH NOT
03:34:27.120 --> 03:34:29.456
NECESSARILY PRIMARILY EDUCATION
03:34:29.523 --> 03:34:31.291
BUT I MAY TEACH YOU BETTER
03:34:31.358 --> 03:34:33.427
INTERACTIONS WITH MORE.
03:34:33.493 --> 03:34:35.262
IF DIFFICULT OR CLIENTS IF YOU
03:34:35.329 --> 03:34:38.031
WILL OKAY. FOR LACK OF A MAYBE A
03:34:38.098 --> 03:34:40.767
BETTER PHRASE BUT AS IT STANDS
03:34:40.834 --> 03:34:42.703
NOW THESE BOARDS HAVE PUT SOME
03:34:42.769 --> 03:34:43.804
VALUE ON THAT.
03:34:43.870 --> 03:34:45.939
RIGHT IN ITS IT'S PROBABLY
03:34:46.006 --> 03:34:47.541
DEBATABLE WHERE THEY HAVE FIT
03:34:47.608 --> 03:34:49.309
NECESSARILY TOGETHER I THINK
03:34:49.376 --> 03:34:51.078
SOMEBODY AND AS SOMEBODY WHO
03:34:51.144 --> 03:34:52.579
THEN IS HOW MOST MATURE HELPED
03:34:52.646 --> 03:34:53.847
RUN THE HOMELESS COURT I DO
03:34:53.914 --> 03:34:54.414
THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THAT.
03:34:54.481 --> 03:34:55.048
YOU KNOW SON OF SAY TRADITIONAL
03:34:55.115 --> 03:34:56.917
METHOD THERE PROBABLY IS A
03:34:56.984 --> 03:34:57.451
REALLY GOOD VALUE TO THAT
03:34:57.517 --> 03:34:59.519
BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING.
03:34:59.586 --> 03:35:00.354
THESE ATTORNEYS ARE GETTING A
03:35:00.420 --> 03:35:01.655
PRACTICE IN AN AREA THEY NEVER
03:35:01.722 --> 03:35:02.823
WOULD OF PRACTICE THERE SORT OF
03:35:02.889 --> 03:35:04.024
GETTING MORE CLIENT INTERACTION
03:35:04.091 --> 03:35:05.959
THAT PROBABLY A LOT OF IT GOT.
03:35:06.026 --> 03:35:08.729
SO I THINK THAT AS IT STANDS NOW
03:35:08.795 --> 03:35:10.430
IT'S BEEN.
03:35:10.497 --> 03:35:11.331
IT'S BELIEVED AT LEAST IN THE
03:35:11.398 --> 03:35:12.366
VETERINARY VETERINARY FEEL THAT
03:35:12.432 --> 03:35:13.767
THERE IS A THERE IS A CERTAIN
03:35:13.834 --> 03:35:15.836
VALUE ON THE CELL ON ON THE SELF
03:35:15.902 --> 03:35:17.404
STUDY COMPONENT.
03:35:17.471 --> 03:35:19.239
THERE'S SOME WEAKNESSES THERE
03:35:19.306 --> 03:35:19.840
TOO BECAUSE YOU ARE YOU THERE
03:35:19.906 --> 03:35:20.374
ARE SOME SELF REPORTING.
03:35:20.440 --> 03:35:22.409
HOW MANY OF THEM ARE?
03:35:22.476 --> 03:35:23.877
YOU KNOW LINE ABOUT IT PROBABLY
03:35:23.944 --> 03:35:25.279
NOT MANY BUT THE PRIMERICA UP
03:35:25.345 --> 03:35:27.014
ALRIGHT I I I AGREE THAT THEY'VE
03:35:27.080 --> 03:35:28.048
SORT OF STARTED SAYING THAT.
03:35:28.115 --> 03:35:28.949
THAT THAT SO THERE IS THE
03:35:29.016 --> 03:35:30.384
ABILITY TO SAY THAT THIS MAY NOT
03:35:30.450 --> 03:35:31.852
BE.
03:35:31.918 --> 03:35:34.087
THIS MAY NOT BE A 100% FOR PROOF
03:35:34.154 --> 03:35:34.721
IN EVERY WAY BUT THERE IS
03:35:34.788 --> 03:35:35.722
PROBABLY A VALUE AND
03:35:35.789 --> 03:35:37.324
EFFECTIVENESS THERE AND I WOULD
03:35:37.391 --> 03:35:39.326
LOOK AT THIS AS AS KIND OF
03:35:39.393 --> 03:35:41.461
FALLING IN THAT CATEGORY AS IT'S
03:35:41.528 --> 03:35:42.296
DIFFERENT.
03:35:42.362 --> 03:35:44.731
THEN MAYBE STUDYING OR LISTENING
03:35:44.798 --> 03:35:46.266
TO A LECTURE OF SOMETHING THAT'S
03:35:46.333 --> 03:35:47.934
SORT OF A NEW TREND BUT I DO SO
03:35:48.001 --> 03:35:50.037
I STILL I I STILL WOULD I STILL
03:35:50.103 --> 03:35:50.737
BELIEVE.
03:35:50.804 --> 03:35:52.539
AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE IS A
03:35:52.606 --> 03:35:54.541
VALUE TO THE S. THAT THAT
03:35:54.608 --> 03:35:56.076
ALTERNATELY HELPS THE
03:35:56.143 --> 03:35:58.545
VETERINARIAN AND I KNOW YOU FOR
03:35:58.612 --> 03:35:59.713
YOU BECAUSE I AND I MEAN I SAT
03:35:59.780 --> 03:36:00.347
ON HEALTH WITH YOU AND I
03:36:00.414 --> 03:36:01.815
REMEMBER GOING THROUGH THIS WENT
03:36:01.882 --> 03:36:02.549
WHEN I WAS VICE CHAIR OF HEALTH
03:36:02.616 --> 03:36:02.749
WITH.
03:36:02.816 --> 03:36:04.551
YOU YOU KNOW WE DID TALK A LOT
03:36:04.618 --> 03:36:06.019
ABOUT ABOUT THIS AND YOU YOU
03:36:06.086 --> 03:36:07.988
FEEL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT AS
03:36:08.055 --> 03:36:08.922
YOU SHOULD AND YOU'VE DONE A LOT
03:36:08.989 --> 03:36:09.890
OF GOOD WORK.
03:36:09.956 --> 03:36:11.358
TO TEMPT MAKE THAT MAKE A
03:36:11.425 --> 03:36:12.392
CONTINUE EDUCATION BETTER I
03:36:12.459 --> 03:36:14.061
WOULD SAY THAT THOUGH AS IT
03:36:14.127 --> 03:36:15.996
STANDS NOW AT KIND OF THE
03:36:16.063 --> 03:36:17.364
CURRENT.
03:36:17.431 --> 03:36:18.231
BELIEVE AT LEAST IN THE
03:36:18.298 --> 03:36:19.733
VETERINARY FIELD BUT I'D SAY
03:36:19.800 --> 03:36:20.500
IT'S PROBABLY ALSO MEDICAL FIELD
03:36:20.567 --> 03:36:22.436
AND LEGAL PHYLLIS WELL THERE IS
03:36:22.502 --> 03:36:24.438
A VALUE TO THIS AND I THINK THIS
03:36:24.504 --> 03:36:27.674
FITS IN WELL WITH THAT VALUE.
03:36:27.741 --> 03:36:29.810
IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT AND JEFF
03:36:29.876 --> 03:36:31.912
GRAHAM I I WOULD SAY YOU POINTS
03:36:31.978 --> 03:36:32.846
FOR AND WELL TAKEN AS AS SOMEONE
03:36:32.913 --> 03:36:34.348
WHO BELIEVES IN SERVICE LEARNING.
03:36:34.414 --> 03:36:35.982
I THINK YEAH DOING SERVICE HAS
03:36:36.049 --> 03:36:38.051
EDUCATIONAL ASPECTS [inaudible]
03:36:38.118 --> 03:36:42.122
SURE THAT I THINK THAT.
03:36:42.189 --> 03:36:43.323
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR PENN
03:36:43.390 --> 03:36:44.424
IT THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE ON
03:36:44.491 --> 03:36:47.427
THAT AND AND OTHER COMMENTS OR
03:36:47.494 --> 03:36:49.296
THE I DO HAVE AS WE TALKED AND
03:36:49.363 --> 03:36:50.664
AND THE CONCERN THAT.
03:36:50.731 --> 03:36:52.199
IT ENDED ITS OUTLINED IN THE IN
03:36:52.265 --> 03:36:53.800
THE ANALYSIS AND AS A POLICY
03:36:53.867 --> 03:36:55.769
CONCERN AN ISSUE WHICH RELATED
03:36:55.836 --> 03:36:56.870
TO THE DEFINITION ARE HAVING
03:36:56.937 --> 03:36:58.205
THIS BEING SPECIFICALLY LOW
03:36:58.271 --> 03:36:59.740
INCOME COMMUNITIES.
03:36:59.806 --> 03:37:01.775
AND THE PROBLEM THAT THAT THAT I
03:37:01.842 --> 03:37:03.110
HAVE BEEN IN THAT YOU MAY SAY
03:37:03.176 --> 03:37:04.411
YOU KNOW I'D REPRESENTS SILICON
03:37:04.478 --> 03:37:05.512
VALLEY AND OVER THE WHAT
03:37:05.579 --> 03:37:06.813
WEALTHIEST AREA IN THE STATE WE
03:37:06.880 --> 03:37:07.714
DON'T HAVE LOW INCOME
03:37:07.781 --> 03:37:08.982
COMMUNITIES.
03:37:09.049 --> 03:37:10.650
BUT WE HAVE OVER 20% POVERTY
03:37:10.717 --> 03:37:12.085
RATE -- OF
03:37:12.152 --> 03:37:13.620
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE STRUGGLING
03:37:13.687 --> 03:37:14.388
BUT THEY'RE NOT.
03:37:14.454 --> 03:37:16.056
IN ONE AREA THEY ARE JUST
03:37:16.123 --> 03:37:17.824
FILTERED WITHIN COMMUNITIES AND
03:37:17.891 --> 03:37:19.526
AND EVERYPLACE SO I I DON'T KNOW
03:37:19.593 --> 03:37:21.561
HOW THAT CAN BE DEFINED I'D LIKE
03:37:21.628 --> 03:37:23.330
SOMETHING IN SO WHAT HAPPENS IS
03:37:23.397 --> 03:37:24.598
THOSE PEOPLE WOULD NOT.
03:37:24.664 --> 03:37:26.299
BE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN
03:37:26.366 --> 03:37:28.802
THIS WEATHER BUT IF IT WERE AT A
03:37:28.869 --> 03:37:30.670
HUMANE SOCIETY WHICH DOES.
03:37:30.737 --> 03:37:33.173
HE KNOWS AREAS OR TIME OF OF
03:37:33.240 --> 03:37:35.509
SPAY NEUTER CLINICS WHERE THEY
03:37:35.575 --> 03:37:36.643
PROVIDE THAT SERVICE I DON'T
03:37:36.710 --> 03:37:38.044
KNOW HOW BEST AND MAYBE WE CAN
03:37:38.111 --> 03:37:39.212
WORK TOGETHER WHEN HE GOES TO
03:37:39.279 --> 03:37:40.747
APPROPRIATIONS TO SEE.
03:37:40.814 --> 03:37:42.249
HOW THEY CAN BETTER BE DEFINED
03:37:42.315 --> 03:37:43.717
TO INCLUDE?
03:37:43.784 --> 03:37:46.319
THOSE WHO NEED THE SERVICE FOR
03:37:46.386 --> 03:37:48.922
THEIR PETS BUT THAT ARE NOT
03:37:48.989 --> 03:37:50.690
NECESSARILY CONFINED TO US.
03:37:50.757 --> 03:37:51.892
BUT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A LITTLE
03:37:51.958 --> 03:37:54.895
LOW INCOME AREA.
03:37:54.961 --> 03:37:55.962
SO THAT WORKS ALRIGHT OF SALINAS
03:37:56.029 --> 03:37:58.098
ARE CAPITA TO SUPPORT DEVON
03:37:58.165 --> 03:37:59.599
ISLAND AND MOVE FORWARD THANK
03:37:59.666 --> 03:38:01.435
YOU THANK YOU --
03:38:01.501 --> 03:38:02.769
WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
03:38:02.836 --> 03:38:03.503
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR
03:38:03.570 --> 03:38:04.738
GLAZER WE DO HAVE A MOTION RIGHT
03:38:04.805 --> 03:38:06.373
BECAUSE I THANK YOU VERY MUCH
03:38:06.440 --> 03:38:07.841
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS AND
03:38:07.908 --> 03:38:09.109
WOULD RESPECT THE REQUEST AND I
03:38:09.176 --> 03:38:10.143
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MOTION BY
03:38:10.210 --> 03:38:11.044
SENATOR GLAZER PLEASE CALL THE
03:38:11.111 --> 03:38:11.445
ROLL.
03:38:11.511 --> 03:38:13.046
MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
03:38:13.113 --> 03:38:14.815
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HILL
03:38:14.881 --> 03:38:16.616
AYE HILL AYE FULLER.
03:38:16.683 --> 03:38:18.051
ALAN.
03:38:18.118 --> 03:38:19.519
ALLEN AYE DODD.
03:38:19.586 --> 03:38:21.588
DODD AYE GALGIANI LASER.
03:38:21.655 --> 03:38:22.422
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ
03:38:22.489 --> 03:38:22.722
[inaudible]
03:38:22.789 --> 03:38:27.661
AND WELL.
03:38:27.727 --> 03:38:28.528
THIS FOR VOTE WILL HOLD RULED
03:38:28.595 --> 03:38:30.497
HIM FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS AND
03:38:30.564 --> 03:38:31.364
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN THANK
03:38:31.431 --> 03:38:34.868
YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
03:38:34.935 --> 03:38:36.870
AND REMEMBER CHAU I SEE YOU DOWN
03:38:36.937 --> 03:38:38.004
THERE FRANK HOW ARE YOU.
03:38:38.071 --> 03:38:39.573
WELCOME THIS AFTERNOON MOVING TO
03:38:39.639 --> 03:38:40.740
ITEM.
03:38:40.807 --> 03:38:44.144
TWENTY TWO AB.
03:38:44.211 --> 03:38:44.778
TWENTY FIVE FORTY SIX THANK YOU
03:38:44.845 --> 03:38:46.179
VERY MUCH OF MR OUT CHAIRMAN AND
03:38:46.246 --> 03:38:47.180
THE MEMBERS SAW.
03:38:47.247 --> 03:38:48.215
AB TWENTY FIVE FORTY SIX WILL
03:38:48.281 --> 03:38:51.351
ENSURE AND THE SANDERS SO FALSE
03:38:51.418 --> 03:38:52.919
AND DECEPTIVE.
03:38:52.986 --> 03:38:56.156
SPAM EMAILS ARE HELD LIABLE FOR
03:38:56.223 --> 03:38:57.524
THEIR UNLAWFUL CONDUCT.
03:38:57.591 --> 03:38:59.493
EXPAND WHAT CONSTITUTES A FALSE
03:38:59.559 --> 03:39:01.928
AND DECEPTIVE EMAIL CONTENT AND
03:39:01.995 --> 03:39:03.663
ENABLE THE COURTS TO ORDER
03:39:03.730 --> 03:39:06.433
INJUNCTIONS AGAINST SPAMMERS.
03:39:06.500 --> 03:39:07.901
IT IS COMMON FOR ADVERTISERS TO
03:39:07.968 --> 03:39:09.469
SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL
03:39:09.536 --> 03:39:11.238
EMAILS TO CONSUMERS.
03:39:11.304 --> 03:39:12.973
OFTEN THEY WILL CONTRACT WITH
03:39:13.039 --> 03:39:15.675
SPAM NETWORKS TO DISTRIBUTE.
03:39:15.742 --> 03:39:17.777
EMAILS TO CONSUMERS ARE THOSE
03:39:17.844 --> 03:39:19.279
SPAM NETWORKS AND TURN ALL
03:39:19.346 --> 03:39:21.381
CONTRACT WITH THIRD PARTIES WHO
03:39:21.448 --> 03:39:22.516
ACTUALLY SENT.
03:39:22.582 --> 03:39:25.352
OUT THOSE EMAILS OFTEN THE
03:39:25.418 --> 03:39:26.620
SENDER'S WILL USE METHODS
03:39:26.686 --> 03:39:28.722
DESIGNED TO CIRCUMVENT OF SPAM
03:39:28.788 --> 03:39:31.358
FILTERS OR MISLEAD CONSUMERS.
03:39:31.424 --> 03:39:32.292
AMONG OTHERS THESE METHODS
03:39:32.359 --> 03:39:33.827
INCLUDE SENDING EMAILS FROM
03:39:33.894 --> 03:39:36.129
MULTIPLE DOMAIN NAMES ALTERING
03:39:36.196 --> 03:39:38.265
THE FORM FROM LYING TO MISLEAD
03:39:38.331 --> 03:39:39.933
THE RECIPIENT ABOUT THE IDENTITY
03:39:40.000 --> 03:39:40.867
OF THE SENDER.
03:39:40.934 --> 03:39:42.402
COPYING HEADERS FROM LEGITIMATE
03:39:42.469 --> 03:39:44.437
BUSINESSES AND PLACING THEM INTO
03:39:44.504 --> 03:39:46.139
THE EMAIL OR SIMPLY PROVIDING
03:39:46.206 --> 03:39:48.308
UNTRUTHFUL CONTENT TO MISLEAD
03:39:48.375 --> 03:39:49.342
THE CONSUMER.
03:39:49.409 --> 03:39:51.344
UNDER EXISTING LAW ADVERTISERS A
03:39:51.411 --> 03:39:52.646
STRICTLY LIABLE FOR FALSE AND
03:39:52.712 --> 03:39:54.447
DECEPTIVE SPAM HOWEVER THE
03:39:54.514 --> 03:39:56.116
ACTUAL SENDERS OF THE EMAILS ARE
03:39:56.182 --> 03:39:57.984
NOT LIABLE FOR SENDING THE
03:39:58.051 --> 03:39:59.619
UNLAWFUL SPAMS.
03:39:59.686 --> 03:40:01.721
THIS BILL AB TWENTY FIVE FORTY
03:40:01.788 --> 03:40:02.188
SIX WAS STRENGTHENED
03:40:02.255 --> 03:40:04.491
CALIFORNIA'S SIR PROHIBITIONS ON
03:40:04.558 --> 03:40:06.793
FALSE AND DECEPTIVE SPAM EMAILS
03:40:06.860 --> 03:40:09.129
IN SEVERAL WAYS AS FOLLOWS. ONE
03:40:09.195 --> 03:40:10.764
HOLDING SPAM NETWORKS AND THE
03:40:10.830 --> 03:40:13.533
ACTUAL SANDERS LIABLE FOR FALSE
03:40:13.600 --> 03:40:15.268
AND DECEPTIVE US SPAMMING.
03:40:15.335 --> 03:40:16.536
NUMBER TWO APPLYING THE LAW TO
03:40:16.603 --> 03:40:18.772
FALSEHOODS OR MISREPRESENTATIONS
03:40:18.838 --> 03:40:20.006
IN THE BODY OF THE EMAIL NOT
03:40:20.073 --> 03:40:21.641
JUST THE HEADERS.
03:40:21.708 --> 03:40:22.809
NUMBER THREE ESTABLISHING THAT
03:40:22.876 --> 03:40:24.711
TRUTHFUL CONTENT IN ONE PART OF
03:40:24.778 --> 03:40:25.278
THIS MAN.
03:40:25.345 --> 03:40:27.881
DOES NOT FEWER FALSE THE IN
03:40:27.948 --> 03:40:29.482
ANOTHER PART FOR PROHIBITING
03:40:29.549 --> 03:40:31.017
SPANNING FROM MULTIPLE DOMAIN
03:40:31.084 --> 03:40:32.886
NAMES FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE.
03:40:32.953 --> 03:40:35.855
OF UP BYPASSING SPAM FILTERS
03:40:35.922 --> 03:40:37.390
FIVE BOOK READING PROHIBITING
03:40:37.457 --> 03:40:39.726
FROM NAMES STEP MISREPRESENT.
03:40:39.793 --> 03:40:41.361
WHO THE SPAM EMAILS ARE ACTUALLY
03:40:41.428 --> 03:40:43.830
FROM SIX AUTHORIZING THE COURTS
03:40:43.897 --> 03:40:45.832
TO IMPOSE INJUNCTIONS TO STOP
03:40:45.899 --> 03:40:47.701
UNLAWFUL SPAMMING AND FINALLY
03:40:47.767 --> 03:40:48.902
ALLOWING DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO
03:40:48.969 --> 03:40:49.869
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S TO BRING
03:40:49.936 --> 03:40:51.938
ACTIONS AGAINST UNLAWFUL
03:40:52.005 --> 03:40:53.206
SPAMMERS --
03:40:53.273 --> 03:40:54.808
WITH THAT I RESPECT ABOUT
03:40:54.874 --> 03:40:57.177
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR WITNESSES
03:40:57.243 --> 03:40:59.312
TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES WE'RE
03:40:59.379 --> 03:41:00.947
GOOD THANK YOU AND MY NAME IS
03:41:01.014 --> 03:41:02.282
DAN BALSAM I'M ATTORNEY IN
03:41:02.349 --> 03:41:03.717
CALIFORNIA WITH THE MARKING
03:41:03.783 --> 03:41:04.618
BACKGROUND.
03:41:04.684 --> 03:41:07.287
AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL FOR THE
03:41:07.354 --> 03:41:08.922
REASONS ASSEMBLY MEMBER CHAO
03:41:08.989 --> 03:41:11.124
ADDRESSED AND I'M ONE THING IN
03:41:11.191 --> 03:41:12.092
PARTICULAR I WOULD REALLY LIKE
03:41:12.158 --> 03:41:12.626
TO STRESS.
03:41:12.692 --> 03:41:15.061
IS THAT UNDER CURRENT LAW FALSE
03:41:15.128 --> 03:41:16.363
AND DECEPTIVE SPAM IS ALREADY
03:41:16.429 --> 03:41:18.465
LEGAL AND THE CURRENT LAW HAS
03:41:18.531 --> 03:41:20.033
NOT KILLED E. COMMERCE OR
03:41:20.100 --> 03:41:21.434
TECHNOLOGY BUSINESS IN
03:41:21.501 --> 03:41:22.535
CALIFORNIA.
03:41:22.602 --> 03:41:25.171
ALL THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS FOR
03:41:25.238 --> 03:41:26.640
THE MOST PART IT CLARIFIES
03:41:26.706 --> 03:41:28.208
EXISTING LAW BY PROVIDING
03:41:28.274 --> 03:41:30.410
EXAMPLES OF FALSITY DECEPTION
03:41:30.477 --> 03:41:32.746
THEREBY PROVIDING GUIDELINES TO
03:41:32.812 --> 03:41:33.146
MARKETERS.
03:41:33.213 --> 03:41:34.648
WHAT WE WERE TELLING THEM IN
03:41:34.714 --> 03:41:36.816
THIS BILL HERE'S WHAT YOU HAVE
03:41:36.883 --> 03:41:38.585
TO DO TO NOT GET SUED --
03:41:38.652 --> 03:41:39.919
ACCORDINGLY I AT THIS THE
03:41:39.986 --> 03:41:41.187
STATUTE ALSO HAS --
03:41:41.254 --> 03:41:43.156
IT AUTHORIZES THE 90% REDUCTION
03:41:43.223 --> 03:41:44.724
IN THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES THIS
03:41:44.791 --> 03:41:46.626
IS PART OF THE CURRENT STATUTE.
03:41:46.693 --> 03:41:47.861
BUT IT'S A LITTLE VAGUE WHAT
03:41:47.927 --> 03:41:49.529
THIS BILL DOES IS TELL THE
03:41:49.596 --> 03:41:50.930
MARKETERS WE HERE'S WHAT YOU
03:41:50.997 --> 03:41:53.099
HAVE TO DO TO GET THAT 90%
03:41:53.166 --> 03:41:54.768
REDUCTION THIS IS A BENEFIT TO
03:41:54.834 --> 03:41:57.003
THE MARKETERS BY REDUCING
03:41:57.070 --> 03:41:57.704
VAGUENESS PROVIDING CLARITY
03:41:57.771 --> 03:41:58.004
[inaudible]
03:41:58.071 --> 03:41:59.339
I'M.
03:41:59.406 --> 03:42:02.142
THE MOST OF THIS BILL IS IS --
03:42:02.208 --> 03:42:03.743
CLARIFICATIONS THE COUPLE
03:42:03.810 --> 03:42:05.378
SUBSTANTIVE ADDITIONS THAT
03:42:05.445 --> 03:42:07.247
SUMMER CHAO MENTIONED.
03:42:07.313 --> 03:42:08.848
AYE ALLOWING STANDING FOR
03:42:08.915 --> 03:42:09.416
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND CITY
03:42:09.482 --> 03:42:10.750
ATTORNEYS HOLDING THE ACTUAL
03:42:10.817 --> 03:42:12.752
SANDERS LIABLE BECAUSE UNDER
03:42:12.819 --> 03:42:14.054
CURRENT LAW THEY'RE NOT AYE THE
03:42:14.120 --> 03:42:15.588
ACTUAL ADVERTISER STRICTLY
03:42:15.655 --> 03:42:16.423
LIABLE.
03:42:16.489 --> 03:42:17.290
BUT THE PERSON THE ENTITY HAD
03:42:17.357 --> 03:42:20.126
ACTUALLY IF YOU KNOW ADDRESSES
03:42:20.193 --> 03:42:22.095
ON THE DARK WEB THAT ACTUALLY
03:42:22.162 --> 03:42:23.096
FOR TO THE HEADERS UNDER CURRENT
03:42:23.163 --> 03:42:25.832
LAW THAT PERSON IS NOT LIABLE.
03:42:25.899 --> 03:42:27.634
ON I BELIEVE IT'S N OMISSION IN
03:42:27.701 --> 03:42:28.268
THE CURRENT STATUTE THAT SHOULD
03:42:28.334 --> 03:42:30.170
BE FIXED --
03:42:30.236 --> 03:42:31.471
AND SINCE THE CURRENT LAW
03:42:31.538 --> 03:42:33.139
ADDRESSES FALSELY DECEPTION THE
03:42:33.206 --> 03:42:34.841
HEADERS THERE'S NO REASON WHY IT
03:42:34.908 --> 03:42:35.975
SHOULDN'T ADDRESS FALL SCHEME
03:42:36.042 --> 03:42:37.243
DECEPTION THE BODY OF THE EMAILS
03:42:37.310 --> 03:42:38.411
AS WELL.
03:42:38.478 --> 03:42:39.846
I'M SO REALLY THIS THAT'S THE
03:42:39.913 --> 03:42:41.214
BEST WHAT THIS BILL IS
03:42:41.281 --> 03:42:42.515
ATTEMPTING TO DO WHICH TO
03:42:42.582 --> 03:42:43.583
TIGHTEN UP SOME OF THE GAPS IN
03:42:43.650 --> 03:42:45.251
THE CURRENT LAW.
03:42:45.318 --> 03:42:46.119
VERY GOOD THANK YOU FOR THE
03:42:46.186 --> 03:42:46.920
TESTIMONY NEXT WITNESS IN
03:42:46.986 --> 03:42:48.288
SUPPORT.
03:42:48.354 --> 03:42:49.823
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS
03:42:49.889 --> 03:42:50.990
DANIELLE COUNTER BECAUSE ARE ON
03:42:51.057 --> 03:42:52.559
BEHALF OF COMMON SENSE KIDS
03:42:52.625 --> 03:42:54.160
ACTION AND I WOULD ALIGN OUR
03:42:54.227 --> 03:42:55.328
SUPPORT STATEMENT WITH MY
03:42:55.395 --> 03:42:56.930
COLLEAGUE.
03:42:56.996 --> 03:42:59.132
AND THE AUTHOR SPECIFICALLY --
03:42:59.199 --> 03:43:00.800
THE CLARIFICATION THAT THE BILL
03:43:00.867 --> 03:43:02.168
OF PROVIDES AS WELL AS AYE
03:43:02.235 --> 03:43:05.105
RECIPROCITY FOR CONSUMERS WE
03:43:05.171 --> 03:43:06.039
RICHER ABOUT THINKING THANK YOU
03:43:06.106 --> 03:43:08.108
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
03:43:08.174 --> 03:43:08.942
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
03:43:09.008 --> 03:43:12.812
OPPOSITION PLEASE COME FORWARD
03:43:12.879 --> 03:43:13.113
[inaudible]
03:43:13.179 --> 03:43:18.184
AND HIS BIGGEST [inaudible]
03:43:18.251 --> 03:43:21.054
PLEASE COME.
03:43:21.121 --> 03:43:25.759
GO OF IT IN THE IF YOU
03:43:25.825 --> 03:43:27.827
SUPERVISOR.
03:43:27.894 --> 03:43:32.665
THERE YOU GO.
03:43:32.732 --> 03:43:34.734
PLEASE CLICK HERE AND I'VE ABOUT
03:43:34.801 --> 03:43:36.469
TWO MINUTES EACH WROTE VERY
03:43:36.536 --> 03:43:37.570
QUICK --
03:43:37.637 --> 03:43:39.806
MORNING AND AFTER MONEY HISPANIC
03:43:39.873 --> 03:43:41.474
KELLY OF INTERNET LAW CENTER IN
03:43:41.541 --> 03:43:43.076
SANTA MONICA.
03:43:43.143 --> 03:43:44.077
I AM ALSO PUT CHAIR OF THE
03:43:44.144 --> 03:43:45.044
CALIFORNIA LAWYERS ASSOCIATION
03:43:45.111 --> 03:43:46.179
TECHNOLOGY INTERNET FROM PRIVACY
03:43:46.246 --> 03:43:47.347
SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE INTELLECTUAL
03:43:47.413 --> 03:43:48.715
PROPERTY COMMITTEE I'M SPEAKING
03:43:48.782 --> 03:43:50.116
HER SILLY MY PERSONAL CAPACITY.
03:43:50.183 --> 03:43:51.751
ARM I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT
03:43:51.818 --> 03:43:53.286
THIS BILL.
03:43:53.353 --> 03:43:54.754
UNKNOWN LIKE SPAM IN THIS BILL
03:43:54.821 --> 03:43:56.389
IS ABOUT SPAM THOUGHT REGULATING
03:43:56.456 --> 03:43:58.792
DECEPTION IN COMMERCIAL EMAIL
03:43:58.858 --> 03:44:00.827
AND APPLIES TO SPAM AND NON SPAM
03:44:00.894 --> 03:44:02.495
LIKE -- WHAT
03:44:02.562 --> 03:44:03.897
IS DECEPTIVE AS A FAVOR FOR THE
03:44:03.963 --> 03:44:04.764
CLARIFICATION?
03:44:04.831 --> 03:44:06.232
IT IS A COMPLETE REWRITE OF
03:44:06.299 --> 03:44:09.469
EXISTING LAW PRIMARILY TO
03:44:09.536 --> 03:44:12.071
REVERSE TO CORDIS'S. TWO COURT
03:44:12.138 --> 03:44:13.740
DECISIONS THAT WENT AGAINST THE
03:44:13.807 --> 03:44:14.440
PLAINTIFFS BAR.
03:44:14.507 --> 03:44:15.775
AND CHOI SO IT'S TRYING TO WIN
03:44:15.842 --> 03:44:18.077
IN COURT BUT WITH WIN HERE WITH
03:44:18.144 --> 03:44:19.112
A CLEAR WHEN COURT INCLUDING
03:44:19.179 --> 03:44:19.913
REVERSING.
03:44:19.979 --> 03:44:21.514
A UNANIMOUS SUPREME COURT
03:44:21.581 --> 03:44:23.783
DECISION THAT HELD MANY
03:44:23.850 --> 03:44:25.819
PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL WHEN
03:44:25.885 --> 03:44:27.720
DOCTORS WERE NOT DECEPTIVE.
03:44:27.787 --> 03:44:28.488
SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING THE
03:44:28.555 --> 03:44:29.689
TRYING TO REVERSE UNANIMOUS
03:44:29.756 --> 03:44:31.991
DECISION IN THE CLEFT IN CASE.
03:44:32.058 --> 03:44:33.226
SO THIS LAW.
03:44:33.293 --> 03:44:35.628
WILL ONLY BENEFIT OF SMALL GROUP
03:44:35.695 --> 03:44:37.197
A PLAINTIFFS LAWYERS.
03:44:37.263 --> 03:44:41.067
OF THIS FOCUS ON EMAIL CASES AND
03:44:41.134 --> 03:44:42.702
I HAVE NO CONSUMER BENEFIT
03:44:42.769 --> 03:44:43.336
BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT IT'S
03:44:43.403 --> 03:44:44.537
ALWAYS SAID THIS IS NOT THE SEPT
03:44:44.604 --> 03:44:47.774
OF AND BUT THIS AND THERE'S NO
03:44:47.841 --> 03:44:50.577
HARM. TO THE CONSUMER BUT THE BE
03:44:50.643 --> 03:44:52.445
HARM TO BUSINESSES BECAUSE IT
03:44:52.512 --> 03:44:55.148
GREATLY EXPANDS THE RISK TO THEM
03:44:55.215 --> 03:44:56.015
FOR LITIGATION.
03:44:56.082 --> 03:44:58.084
IN THEIR MOUTH OF EXPOSURE THEY
03:44:58.151 --> 03:44:59.319
WILL HAVE UNDER THIS VERSE IS IF
03:44:59.385 --> 03:45:01.554
EXISTING LAW IS EXPONENTIAL I'VE
03:45:01.621 --> 03:45:02.789
TALKED TO MY CLIENTS.
03:45:02.856 --> 03:45:04.190
AND A ONE CLIENT A VERY
03:45:04.257 --> 03:45:06.826
SUCCESSFUL AND BY THE BOOK EMAIL
03:45:06.893 --> 03:45:08.261
WHO MARKETS HIS ARM.
03:45:08.328 --> 03:45:10.296
UP E. COMMERCE OPERATIONS HE
03:45:10.363 --> 03:45:11.264
ANTICIPATES HE'LL HAVE TO SHUT
03:45:11.331 --> 03:45:14.234
DOWN 80% OF HIS BUSINESS BECAUSE
03:45:14.300 --> 03:45:15.468
HE WENT ALONG A BILL TO SOLICIT
03:45:15.535 --> 03:45:15.869
BY.
03:45:15.935 --> 03:45:17.270
BUYING COMMERCIAL EMAIL AND HE
03:45:17.337 --> 03:45:18.805
DOESN'T USE SPAM HE USES OFTEN
03:45:18.872 --> 03:45:19.639
ENOUGH.
03:45:19.706 --> 03:45:21.808
AND SO ON I WOULD SUGGEST THREE
03:45:21.875 --> 03:45:24.043
POINTS OF CLARIFICATION OR
03:45:24.110 --> 03:45:25.545
AMENDMENTS. ONE IS THE BILL
03:45:25.612 --> 03:45:28.314
ALLOWS YOU IT HAS A LANGUAGE I
03:45:28.381 --> 03:45:37.457
CLARIFIED THAT --
03:45:37.523 --> 03:45:37.757
IT APPLIES.
03:45:37.824 --> 03:45:38.391
TO ENCOURAGE COMMERCIAL MAIL A
03:45:38.458 --> 03:45:39.058
CLASS TO ANY OTHER SOLICITATION
03:45:39.125 --> 03:45:39.726
AND THAT COULD BE INTERPRETED TO
03:45:39.792 --> 03:45:40.326
INCLUDE NON PROFITS OR EVEN
03:45:40.393 --> 03:45:40.660
POLITICAL --
03:45:40.727 --> 03:45:41.294
SOLICITATIONS HAT WOULD STRIKE
03:45:41.361 --> 03:45:42.996
THAT THE SECOND IS.
03:45:43.062 --> 03:45:43.730
THE LANGUAGE OF THE AND THEY
03:45:43.796 --> 03:45:45.531
TALKED ABOUT INCLUDING ARE
03:45:45.598 --> 03:45:47.367
ADDING FALSITY TO THE BODY THE
03:45:47.433 --> 03:45:48.167
EMAIL.
03:45:48.234 --> 03:45:49.235
BUT THAT WOULD DO WOULD BE
03:45:49.302 --> 03:45:50.803
COMPLETELY REWRITE EXISTING
03:45:50.870 --> 03:45:53.039
FALSE ADVERTISING LAW CURRENTLY
03:45:53.106 --> 03:45:54.674
FALSE ADVERTISING LAW --
03:45:54.741 --> 03:45:57.210
REQUIRES SOME ELEMENT OF IN IN
03:45:57.277 --> 03:45:59.612
ADDITION UNDER PROP SEVENTY
03:45:59.679 --> 03:46:01.381
EIGHT ARMED REQUIRES THAT.
03:46:01.447 --> 03:46:03.516
THE PERSON TO SUSE HAVE STANDING
03:46:03.583 --> 03:46:05.118
HAPPEN OR SOME FORM OF PERSONAL
03:46:05.184 --> 03:46:06.719
INJURY FROM.
03:46:06.786 --> 03:46:08.655
THE ALLEGATION ARMY OF THAT AND
03:46:08.721 --> 03:46:09.956
THAT WAS PASSED BECAUSE OF
03:46:10.023 --> 03:46:11.691
WIDESPREAD ABUSE WHAT THIS BILL
03:46:11.758 --> 03:46:12.592
DOES.
03:46:12.659 --> 03:46:14.294
IS CIRCUMVENTS THAT WITHOUT ANY
03:46:14.360 --> 03:46:16.029
INTENT ELEMENT AND IS A STRICT
03:46:16.095 --> 03:46:17.297
LIABILITY NO NO REQUIREMENT OF
03:46:17.363 --> 03:46:18.932
HARM -- THE
03:46:18.998 --> 03:46:21.100
LAST THING I WOULD ASK INS AND
03:46:21.167 --> 03:46:23.102
TO NOT REVERSE.
03:46:23.169 --> 03:46:23.903
SUPREME COURT DECISIONS AND
03:46:23.970 --> 03:46:24.837
CLAPPED AND A LOT OF THOSE
03:46:24.904 --> 03:46:26.239
PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL.
03:46:26.306 --> 03:46:28.775
DEAL WITH THE EMAIL FILTERS
03:46:28.841 --> 03:46:30.176
DON'T REVERSE IN THE SEVEN OAKS
03:46:30.243 --> 03:46:32.578
SUPREME COURT DECISION IS THE
03:46:32.645 --> 03:46:33.980
RIGHT DECISION DON'T FIRST.
03:46:34.047 --> 03:46:35.481
THINK YOU YES SIR.
03:46:35.548 --> 03:46:36.716
WELCOME HELLO MY NAME IS CHAIR
03:46:36.783 --> 03:46:38.952
GORDON AND I AM THE CO VICE
03:46:39.018 --> 03:46:40.286
CHAIR OF THE INTERNET AND
03:46:40.353 --> 03:46:41.888
PRIVACY LAW SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE
03:46:41.955 --> 03:46:43.189
CALIFORNIA LAWYERS ASSOCIATION
03:46:43.256 --> 03:46:45.191
BUSINESS SECTION BUT AM HERE.
03:46:45.258 --> 03:46:47.060
ALSO IN MY PERSONAL CAPACITY NOT
03:46:47.126 --> 03:46:48.461
MY CAPACITY AS OF THE CHO VICE
03:46:48.528 --> 03:46:51.164
CHAIR.
03:46:51.230 --> 03:46:51.764
NOW.
03:46:51.831 --> 03:46:52.799
I'D LIKE TO IDENTIFY FOR YOU OF
03:46:52.865 --> 03:46:54.400
WHAT I THINK IS REALLY CENTRAL
03:46:54.467 --> 03:46:55.301
TO THIS BILL WHICH IS THAT IT IS
03:46:55.368 --> 03:46:56.035
NOT.
03:46:56.102 --> 03:46:58.137
MERELY A SMALL TECHNICAL CHANGE
03:46:58.204 --> 03:46:59.639
CLARIFYING WITH EXAMPLES WHAT
03:46:59.706 --> 03:47:01.808
EXISTING LAW SAYS IN FACT WHAT
03:47:01.874 --> 03:47:02.608
IT DOES IS SUBSTANTIALLY.
03:47:02.675 --> 03:47:04.510
EXPAND THE NUMBER APART RIGHT OF
03:47:04.577 --> 03:47:07.647
ACTION CLAIMS AVAILABLE UNDER
03:47:07.714 --> 03:47:08.247
BUSINESS PROFESSION SOMETHING
03:47:08.314 --> 03:47:09.882
FIVE TO NINE POINT.
03:47:09.949 --> 03:47:10.850
FIVE SO --
03:47:10.917 --> 03:47:11.751
ALTHOUGH THEY'RE MORE THAN JUST
03:47:11.818 --> 03:47:14.487
A LIST I'M ABOUT TO GIVE YOU --
03:47:14.554 --> 03:47:15.588
ALL HIGHLIGHT JUST THESE BECAUSE
03:47:15.655 --> 03:47:17.023
I THINK THAT ALL OF THEM HAVE.
03:47:17.090 --> 03:47:18.591
MANY DIFFERENT POTENTIAL
03:47:18.658 --> 03:47:20.193
EXAMPLES THAT DO NOT.
03:47:20.259 --> 03:47:21.861
A REPRESENT EVEN FALSE AND
03:47:21.928 --> 03:47:25.031
MISLEADING POTENTIAL USES LITTLE
03:47:25.098 --> 03:47:26.766
MATERIALLY POSSUMS MISLEADING --
03:47:26.833 --> 03:47:27.934
USES WHICH IS WHAT'S REQUIRED
03:47:28.001 --> 03:47:30.503
UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
03:47:30.570 --> 03:47:32.672
SO HOW DO YOU SEE MOBILE DOMAIN
03:47:32.739 --> 03:47:33.773
NAMES AND MAILING THIS IS A
03:47:33.840 --> 03:47:34.874
COMMON PRACTICE IT'S USED BY
03:47:34.941 --> 03:47:36.275
VIRTUALLY EVERY BUSINESS.
03:47:36.342 --> 03:47:37.443
WITH A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF
03:47:37.510 --> 03:47:39.212
EMAIL THAT IT SENDS --
03:47:39.278 --> 03:47:40.413
BETWEEN BY NONPROFITS AND
03:47:40.480 --> 03:47:42.148
POLITICAL ACTORS.
03:47:42.215 --> 03:47:43.683
ALRIGHT IF YOU TALK TO WHOEVER
03:47:43.750 --> 03:47:44.751
DOES YOUR CAMPAIGN MAILING THEY
03:47:44.817 --> 03:47:46.052
PROBABLY DO.
03:47:46.119 --> 03:47:47.720
MULTIPLE DOMAIN NAMES AS WELL AS
03:47:47.787 --> 03:47:51.324
JUST ENTER PRACTICE I IT'S NOT.
03:47:51.391 --> 03:47:52.925
REALLY I'M THERE'S ACTUALLY KISS
03:47:52.992 --> 03:47:53.526
ON THAT SAYS IT'S NOT A FALSE
03:47:53.593 --> 03:47:58.231
AND SEE AND YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S
03:47:58.297 --> 03:47:59.766
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THERE'S A
03:47:59.832 --> 03:48:00.400
PART RIGHT OF ACTION GRANTED FOR
03:48:00.466 --> 03:48:01.634
THIS BILL.
03:48:01.701 --> 03:48:04.003
GENERIC TAX IN THE FROM LINE.
03:48:04.070 --> 03:48:05.571
SO IDENTIFYING --
03:48:05.638 --> 03:48:07.373
SOMEONE AS A STELLAR OF CARS AS
03:48:07.440 --> 03:48:08.841
OPPOSED TO THE SPECIFIC BUSINESS
03:48:08.908 --> 03:48:09.942
NAME.
03:48:10.009 --> 03:48:11.644
IS SOMETHING THAT'S GIVEN AS A
03:48:11.711 --> 03:48:13.046
PURPORTED EXAMPLE BUT REALLY
03:48:13.112 --> 03:48:13.646
THERE'S A PART RIGHT OF ACTION
03:48:13.713 --> 03:48:14.914
CREATED.
03:48:14.981 --> 03:48:17.283
IF THERE'S A GENERIC TAX DEAD A
03:48:17.350 --> 03:48:19.218
DOES NOT ACTUALLY DESCRIBE
03:48:19.285 --> 03:48:21.087
BUSINESS A RELATED BUT I THINK
03:48:21.154 --> 03:48:22.522
DISTINCT --
03:48:22.588 --> 03:48:23.790
PRIDE RIGHT OF ACTION ITS
03:48:23.856 --> 03:48:24.690
CREATED IN THE EVENT THAT
03:48:24.757 --> 03:48:25.658
SOMEONE USES A FICTITIOUS
03:48:25.725 --> 03:48:27.527
BUSINESS NAME.
03:48:27.593 --> 03:48:28.561
AS PART OF THAT FROM THAT NOW
03:48:28.628 --> 03:48:29.462
THE FICTITIOUS BUSINESS NAME IS
03:48:29.529 --> 03:48:30.496
SOMETHING THAT CALIFORNIA
03:48:30.563 --> 03:48:32.465
ALREADY PROVIDES.
03:48:32.532 --> 03:48:33.099
FOR GERMANY BESIDES ARE ALLOWED
03:48:33.166 --> 03:48:34.901
TO USE IT FOR VIRTUALLY ANY.
03:48:34.967 --> 03:48:35.935
I USE THAT THEY MIGHT USE FOR
03:48:36.002 --> 03:48:38.704
THEIR NAME BUT AS I READ THIS
03:48:38.771 --> 03:48:39.238
BILL.
03:48:39.305 --> 03:48:40.540
AYE POTENTIALLY WOULD MAKE THE
03:48:40.606 --> 03:48:42.442
USE OF A FICTITIOUS BUSINESS
03:48:42.508 --> 03:48:43.843
NAME IN THE FROM LINE AN
03:48:43.910 --> 03:48:45.912
ACTIONABLE.
03:48:45.978 --> 03:48:47.947
CLAIM UNDER SEVENTEEN FIVE TWO
03:48:48.014 --> 03:48:48.481
FIVE TO NINE POINT FIVE AS
03:48:48.548 --> 03:48:51.084
AMENDED --
03:48:51.150 --> 03:48:52.985
FURTHER IT ALSO PROHIBITS
03:48:53.052 --> 03:48:56.022
NONSENSICAL TEXT SO SOMETIMES I
03:48:56.089 --> 03:48:59.392
EMAIL IS WILL ADD TEXT. TWO
03:48:59.459 --> 03:49:01.761
BILLS AT OUR AND OUR NIGHT START
03:49:01.828 --> 03:49:03.563
TO AYE EMAILS.
03:49:03.629 --> 03:49:05.731
AND SOMETIMES I THOUGHT TEXTURES
03:49:05.798 --> 03:49:06.799
USED TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT
03:49:06.866 --> 03:49:08.234
TO FILTER THOSE EMAILS BY
03:49:08.301 --> 03:49:09.802
AUTOMATED FILTERING SYSTEMS.
03:49:09.869 --> 03:49:10.570
BUT SOMETIMES A FILTERING
03:49:10.636 --> 03:49:11.771
SYSTEMS ARE WRONG AND THEY
03:49:11.838 --> 03:49:13.473
SIMPLY MIS IDENTIFY.
03:49:13.539 --> 03:49:15.341
WHAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A QUOTE
03:49:15.408 --> 03:49:15.942
THAT GOES ALONG WITH SOMEONE
03:49:16.008 --> 03:49:16.843
SIGNATURE?
03:49:16.909 --> 03:49:19.745
A COULD BE FOR EXAMPLE THE TEXAS
03:49:19.812 --> 03:49:22.215
EMAIL IF SOMEONE TRULY BELIEVES
03:49:22.281 --> 03:49:23.916
IN FREE SPEECH ALL OF THOSE
03:49:23.983 --> 03:49:25.084
MIGHT IN THE CONTEXT OF A
03:49:25.151 --> 03:49:26.452
COMMERCIAL EMAIL.
03:49:26.519 --> 03:49:28.488
THEME NONSENSICAL BUT IN FACT
03:49:28.554 --> 03:49:29.155
THEY AREN'T.
03:49:29.222 --> 03:49:30.423
AND HIDE THIS BILL POTENTIALLY
03:49:30.490 --> 03:49:33.025
RISKS.
03:49:33.092 --> 03:49:34.927
OUR OUR LAW A NEGATIVE IMPOSING
03:49:34.994 --> 03:49:37.663
SANCTIONS ON PEOPLE WHO ARE
03:49:37.730 --> 03:49:38.331
INCLUDING THE TEXT OF THE FIRST
03:49:38.397 --> 03:49:38.898
AMENDMENT INCLUDING BIBLICAL
03:49:38.965 --> 03:49:41.200
TEXTS AND THEIR EMAILS.
03:49:41.267 --> 03:49:42.335
ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT IN THE
03:49:42.401 --> 03:49:43.870
CONTEXT OF THE OVERALL BODY OF
03:49:43.936 --> 03:49:45.938
THE EMAIL SEEM NONSENSICAL AND I
03:49:46.005 --> 03:49:47.740
THINK THAT'S AN UNACCEPTABLE
03:49:47.807 --> 03:49:48.808
COMMENDED FOR SWIMMING.
03:49:48.875 --> 03:49:50.276
FINALLY IT --
03:49:50.343 --> 03:49:51.144
POTENTIALLY COULD SUPPLY WRITER
03:49:51.210 --> 03:49:53.012
OF ACTION FOR THE USE OF OUR E.
03:49:53.079 --> 03:49:54.213
COLIN.
03:49:54.280 --> 03:49:56.382
IN THE SUBJECT LINE AND AS A
03:49:56.449 --> 03:49:57.416
LAWYER I WILL SIMPLY TELL YOU
03:49:57.483 --> 03:49:58.117
THAT.
03:49:58.184 --> 03:50:00.353
MY BILLS OFTEN USE THE WORD A
03:50:00.419 --> 03:50:01.454
DIFFERENCE HARI COLIN.
03:50:01.521 --> 03:50:03.389
AND IT SIMPLY MEANS IN REGARDS
03:50:03.456 --> 03:50:04.857
TO AND WHILE IT IS OFTEN USE
03:50:04.924 --> 03:50:06.459
AUTOMATICALLY EMAIL AS A REPLY
03:50:06.526 --> 03:50:07.827
MESSAGE --
03:50:07.894 --> 03:50:08.861
IT ALSO CAN MEAN IN REGARDS TO
03:50:08.928 --> 03:50:10.663
AND MANY PEOPLE USE IT FOR THAT
03:50:10.730 --> 03:50:11.264
PURPOSE --
03:50:11.330 --> 03:50:12.632
THIS THEREFORE CONTENT BASED
03:50:12.698 --> 03:50:14.167
RESTRICTION AND PUTS A
03:50:14.233 --> 03:50:16.102
SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS ON FIRST
03:50:16.169 --> 03:50:18.304
AMENDMENT LEVEL AND FRANKLY JUST
03:50:18.371 --> 03:50:20.173
DOES NOT REALLY RELATE TO A
03:50:20.239 --> 03:50:21.541
MATURELY FALSE OR DECEIVING
03:50:21.607 --> 03:50:23.442
SECULAR DEPRECIATE OTHERS IN
03:50:23.509 --> 03:50:23.976
OPPOSITION TO PLEASE COME
03:50:24.043 --> 03:50:27.480
FORWARD AND THE TRUE NAME.
03:50:27.547 --> 03:50:28.648
STARS DAVIS FOR THE INTERNET
03:50:28.714 --> 03:50:30.783
BUSINESS COALITION IN OPPOSITION
03:50:30.850 --> 03:50:32.218
THAT YOU THINK YOU.
03:50:32.285 --> 03:50:32.818
PROSPECT OF THE PERSONAL
03:50:32.885 --> 03:50:34.820
INSURANCE FEDERATION POST.
03:50:34.887 --> 03:50:35.555
STEVE CARLSON TO THE DATA IN
03:50:35.621 --> 03:50:36.589
MARKETING ASSOCIATION THE
03:50:36.656 --> 03:50:38.090
ASSOCIATION OF NATIONAL
03:50:38.157 --> 03:50:39.859
ADVERTISERS IN OPPOSITION WE
03:50:39.926 --> 03:50:42.161
THANK YOU OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
03:50:42.228 --> 03:50:44.330
YOU KNOW WHEN BRING IT BACK TO
03:50:44.397 --> 03:50:45.431
LEARN FROM ANYTHING ELSE SENATOR
03:50:45.498 --> 03:50:47.066
DODD.
03:50:47.133 --> 03:50:48.534
YOU HAVE SOME OF OUR CHILD.
03:50:48.601 --> 03:50:49.168
AYE I'LL AYE LIKE WHAT YOU'RE
03:50:49.235 --> 03:50:51.671
DOING HERE I DO HAVE CONCERNS
03:50:51.737 --> 03:50:53.105
ABOUT PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION --
03:50:53.172 --> 03:50:57.243
THAT'S NO CLEAR FOR ME THE OTHER
03:50:57.310 --> 03:50:58.945
ONE IS WHERE THERE ARE NO DAMAGE
03:50:59.011 --> 03:51:00.580
DIVERT.
03:51:00.646 --> 03:51:00.880
YEAH -- A A
03:51:00.947 --> 03:51:02.448
BILL.
03:51:02.515 --> 03:51:04.417
I TOTALLY SIMILAR BAY.
03:51:04.483 --> 03:51:05.284
CLOSER.
03:51:05.351 --> 03:51:07.320
YET ISSUES THAT I'M WORKING ON
03:51:07.386 --> 03:51:08.321
YOUR TWO AS WELL AS MAKING SURE
03:51:08.387 --> 03:51:09.589
THAT THERE ARE.
03:51:09.655 --> 03:51:10.890
SAFE HARBORS ARE MAKING SURE
03:51:10.957 --> 03:51:13.259
THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE DAMAGED ARE
03:51:13.326 --> 03:51:14.594
THE ONES THAT CAN.
03:51:14.660 --> 03:51:16.896
NO NOT JUST NOT JUST ANYBODY AND
03:51:16.963 --> 03:51:17.663
SO I'M KINDA EXITED YOUR
03:51:17.730 --> 03:51:18.931
THOUGHTS BE.
03:51:18.998 --> 03:51:19.799
BEHIND THE COMMENTS OF THE
03:51:19.865 --> 03:51:21.400
PEOPLE THERE.
03:51:21.467 --> 03:51:22.969
CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR BILL HERO
03:51:23.035 --> 03:51:24.237
THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION
03:51:24.303 --> 03:51:25.204
SENATOR LOONY ADDRESS OUT THE
03:51:25.271 --> 03:51:26.672
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION ISSUE AS
03:51:26.739 --> 03:51:28.074
WELL AS ONE OTHER.
03:51:28.140 --> 03:51:29.508
ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED IN THAT
03:51:29.575 --> 03:51:30.676
ALTERNATE OVER TO MY NGUYEN IS
03:51:30.743 --> 03:51:31.911
FOR THE REST OF THE ISSUES
03:51:31.978 --> 03:51:33.145
THAT'S BEEN RAISED.
03:51:33.212 --> 03:51:35.147
A WITH RESPECT TO THE PRIVATE
03:51:35.214 --> 03:51:37.450
RIGHT OF ACTION NOT DISPELLED
03:51:37.516 --> 03:51:38.050
CREATE A NEW PRIVATE RIGHT OF
03:51:38.117 --> 03:51:39.485
ACTION.
03:51:39.552 --> 03:51:40.953
IN FACT CURRENT LAW ALREADY
03:51:41.020 --> 03:51:42.088
PROVIDES FOR THAT AND THIS --
03:51:42.154 --> 03:51:44.790
THAT SERBIAN P. SECTION ONE
03:51:44.857 --> 03:51:45.691
SEVEN FIVE TWO NINE POINT FIVE
03:51:45.758 --> 03:51:47.960
DOT CO SECTION CLEARLY PROVIDES
03:51:48.027 --> 03:51:49.228
FOR THE RIGHT OF A PRIVATE EYE
03:51:49.295 --> 03:51:51.797
OF ACTION ONLY DOING NOW AND
03:51:51.864 --> 03:51:53.499
THAT IS BILL IS TO BE SEXUALLY.
03:51:53.566 --> 03:51:55.635
OF ALLOW STANDING TO BE GRANTED
03:51:55.701 --> 03:51:56.636
TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND
03:51:56.702 --> 03:51:57.937
ALSO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO BRING
03:51:58.004 --> 03:52:00.006
ACTIONS SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
03:52:00.072 --> 03:52:01.340
WE'RE DOING WE'RE NOT ADDING A
03:52:01.407 --> 03:52:02.842
NEW PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION.
03:52:02.908 --> 03:52:04.210
OUGHT TO THE BILL NOW WITH
03:52:04.277 --> 03:52:08.314
RESPECT TO THE I THINK THERE
03:52:08.381 --> 03:52:10.549
WERE A MANY ALSO ADDRESSED THE
03:52:10.616 --> 03:52:11.317
ISSUE THOUGH THE OTHER ISSUE
03:52:11.384 --> 03:52:12.551
THAT WAS OUT REGARDING
03:52:12.618 --> 03:52:15.021
CHARITABLE AND UP THE POLITICAL
03:52:15.087 --> 03:52:15.721
ORGANIZATIONS.
03:52:15.788 --> 03:52:18.190
ON THERE IS NO INTENT TO INCLUDE
03:52:18.257 --> 03:52:19.792
THOSE ARE ALL OPPORTUNITIES INTO
03:52:19.859 --> 03:52:20.059
THE BILL.
03:52:20.126 --> 03:52:22.595
AND ARE WILLING TO OUR MODIFY
03:52:22.662 --> 03:52:24.597
WHERE AMEND THE BILL TO ACTUALLY
03:52:24.664 --> 03:52:25.898
PROVIDE EXCEPTIONS FOR THOSE
03:52:25.965 --> 03:52:27.300
ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.
03:52:27.366 --> 03:52:28.534
SO ON THAT COULD BE FIXED SO
03:52:28.601 --> 03:52:29.902
VERY EASILY AND IN FACT WE
03:52:29.969 --> 03:52:32.471
HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ON ON TERM OR
03:52:32.538 --> 03:52:33.439
NON.
03:52:33.506 --> 03:52:35.875
PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS HAVING --
03:52:35.941 --> 03:52:37.710
TO REPORT THIS KIND OF INCIDENTS
03:52:37.777 --> 03:52:39.712
NOW.
03:52:39.779 --> 03:52:40.780
LET ME TURN IT OVER TO MY
03:52:40.846 --> 03:52:42.448
WITNESS TO ADJUST THE THE OTHER
03:52:42.515 --> 03:52:44.216
ISSUE THAT'S BEEN RAISED THERE.
03:52:44.283 --> 03:52:45.318
AND DEL RIG REGARDING THE COURT
03:52:45.384 --> 03:52:47.019
DECISION THE BODY OF THE EMAIL
03:52:47.086 --> 03:52:48.888
AND ALSO MULTIPLE DOMAINS.
03:52:48.954 --> 03:52:51.090
THAT'S OKAY WITH IF IT PLEASES
03:52:51.157 --> 03:52:52.958
THE COURT IDEA CHAIR.
03:52:53.025 --> 03:52:54.694
NOW THAT WOULD.
03:52:54.760 --> 03:52:55.728
IF YOU COULD BE AS BRIEF S
03:52:55.795 --> 03:52:57.396
POSSIBLE IN THAT WE'RE RUNNING
03:52:57.463 --> 03:52:59.365
INTO A TIME PROBLEM SIR --
03:52:59.432 --> 03:53:00.399
FIRST OF ALL.
03:53:00.466 --> 03:53:03.703
THIS THIS BILL DOES NOT APPLY.
03:53:03.769 --> 03:53:05.805
TO GENERAL IT ONLY APPLIES TO
03:53:05.871 --> 03:53:07.473
FALSE AND DECEPTIVE SPAM THE
03:53:07.540 --> 03:53:09.208
WHOLE POINT OF THIS CHAPTER THIS
03:53:09.275 --> 03:53:09.842
BILL.
03:53:09.909 --> 03:53:11.310
AND IN THE CURRENT LAW IS ABOUT
03:53:11.377 --> 03:53:13.446
UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL EMAIL FOR
03:53:13.512 --> 03:53:14.447
THE STARTING POINT IS THAT IT'S
03:53:14.513 --> 03:53:16.682
SPAM AND POINT FIVE IS THAT IT'S
03:53:16.749 --> 03:53:18.417
FALSE AND DECEPTIVE FOR THIS
03:53:18.484 --> 03:53:20.386
BILL IN NO WAY NOR DOES THE
03:53:20.453 --> 03:53:23.122
EXISTING STATUTE ADDRESS.
03:53:23.189 --> 03:53:24.990
WOULD ADDRESS ADVERTISING OTHER
03:53:25.057 --> 03:53:25.658
THAN SPAM UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL
03:53:25.725 --> 03:53:27.059
EMAIL.
03:53:27.126 --> 03:53:29.395
I'M SECOND BUT THE THE BILL DOES
03:53:29.462 --> 03:53:32.164
EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THE STATUTE
03:53:32.231 --> 03:53:33.432
A LITTLE BIT AYE IT'S NOT OF NEW
03:53:33.499 --> 03:53:34.834
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION.
03:53:34.900 --> 03:53:35.801
BUT IT DOES BECAUSE THERE'S
03:53:35.868 --> 03:53:37.036
ALREADY A PRIVATE RIGHT OF
03:53:37.103 --> 03:53:38.337
ACTION FOR RECIPIENTS OF SPAM
03:53:38.404 --> 03:53:39.505
BUT IT DOES ADDRESS FALSITY IN
03:53:39.572 --> 03:53:41.474
THE BODY THAT'S CORRECT BECAUSE
03:53:41.540 --> 03:53:42.708
IF WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS FALSITY
03:53:42.775 --> 03:53:44.610
IN THE HEADERS WHY SHOULD WE
03:53:44.677 --> 03:53:45.578
ADDRESS FALSITY IN THE BODY
03:53:45.644 --> 03:53:46.379
FALSELY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED
03:53:46.445 --> 03:53:49.115
WHERE EVER IT IS --
03:53:49.181 --> 03:53:50.750
AS FAR AS MULTIPLE DOMAIN NAMES
03:53:50.816 --> 03:53:51.717
THAT WAS THE OTHER BIG ISSUE
03:53:51.784 --> 03:53:53.219
THAT WAS RAISED.
03:53:53.285 --> 03:53:54.520
BUT THE STATUTE DOES NOT
03:53:54.587 --> 03:53:56.355
CATEGORICALLY MAKE MULTIPLE
03:53:56.422 --> 03:53:58.824
DOMAIN NAMES UNLAWFUL.
03:53:58.891 --> 03:53:59.458
WHAT MAKES IT UNLAWFUL WHEN THE
03:53:59.525 --> 03:54:01.360
ONLY PURPOSE FOR DOING SO IS TO
03:54:01.427 --> 03:54:03.829
AVOID SPAM FILTERS SO --
03:54:03.896 --> 03:54:05.798
AN EXAMPLE THAT I'D LIKE TO USE
03:54:05.865 --> 03:54:06.832
ON THIS POINT IS DOUBLE DISNEY
03:54:06.899 --> 03:54:08.567
COMPANY THEY HAVE THOUSANDS OF
03:54:08.634 --> 03:54:10.536
BRANDS AND PRODUCTS IN NOBODY'S
03:54:10.603 --> 03:54:12.271
SAYING DISNEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE
03:54:12.338 --> 03:54:13.606
TO USE THE LYING KING DOT COM
03:54:13.672 --> 03:54:15.741
ESPN DOT COM AND THE LITTLE
03:54:15.808 --> 03:54:16.976
MERMAID DOT COM AND WHATEVER
03:54:17.042 --> 03:54:18.377
ELSE THEY HAVE.
03:54:18.444 --> 03:54:19.779
THERE'S A VALID REASON TO DO SO
03:54:19.845 --> 03:54:20.679
BECAUSE THEY ARE REAL BRANDS
03:54:20.746 --> 03:54:22.314
BEHIND IT.
03:54:22.381 --> 03:54:23.115
WHAT THIS BILL IS TRYING TO
03:54:23.182 --> 03:54:25.317
ADDRESS IS A SPAMMER WHO SITS
03:54:25.384 --> 03:54:27.987
ALONE IN HIS GARAGE GENERATING A
03:54:28.053 --> 03:54:29.688
HUNDRED NONSENSICAL DOMAIN NAMES
03:54:29.755 --> 03:54:31.056
THAT HAVE NO INHERENT CNNECTION
03:54:31.123 --> 03:54:32.358
TO THE PRODUCTS BEING ADVERTISED?
03:54:32.425 --> 03:54:33.559
AND USES ALL OF THOSE DOMAIN
03:54:33.626 --> 03:54:35.961
NAMES TO ADVERTISE ONE PRODUCT
03:54:36.028 --> 03:54:37.663
THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AND
03:54:37.730 --> 03:54:39.565
ONLY REASON TO DO THIS IS TO
03:54:39.632 --> 03:54:40.666
AVOID SPAM FILTERS BECAUSE%
03:54:40.733 --> 03:54:41.867
FILTERS LEARN.
03:54:41.934 --> 03:54:44.303
FILTERS ACT AS OUR AGENTS TO
03:54:44.370 --> 03:54:46.038
RECOGNIZE AND BLOCK SPAM WHETHER
03:54:46.105 --> 03:54:47.540
WE USE OURSELVES WITH SOFTWARE
03:54:47.606 --> 03:54:49.241
PLUGINS OR WHETHER IT'S AT THE
03:54:49.308 --> 03:54:52.411
YAHOO LEVEL OR THE COMCAST LEVEL
03:54:52.478 --> 03:54:52.945
THEIR FILTERS THAT ACT TO
03:54:53.012 --> 03:54:53.879
PROTECT US.
03:54:53.946 --> 03:54:55.147
AND USING MULTIPLE DOMAIN NAMES
03:54:55.214 --> 03:54:57.082
IS AN ATTEMPT TO EVADE THAT.
03:54:57.149 --> 03:54:59.051
ON THE SUPREME COURT DID RULE ON
03:54:59.118 --> 03:55:00.953
THIS QUESTION BOB BUT THE CASE
03:55:01.020 --> 03:55:01.987
NEVER ROSE UP THROUGH THE
03:55:02.054 --> 03:55:04.223
CALIFORNIA COURTS NO JURY EVER
03:55:04.290 --> 03:55:06.459
WEIGHED IN ON WHETHER THIS WAS
03:55:06.525 --> 03:55:07.126
DECEPTIVE.
03:55:07.193 --> 03:55:07.993
THERE WERE NO FOR THERE WERE NO
03:55:08.060 --> 03:55:10.029
FINDINGS OF CONSUMER AYE INPUT
03:55:10.095 --> 03:55:11.664
IN ANY MANNER WHATSOEVER THE
03:55:11.730 --> 03:55:12.798
QUESTION WAS REFERRED TO THE
03:55:12.865 --> 03:55:14.266
CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT BY THE
03:55:14.333 --> 03:55:15.601
NINTH CIRCUIT. FOR THE
03:55:15.668 --> 03:55:17.036
CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT DID SAY
03:55:17.102 --> 03:55:19.705
THAT AND THIS BILL IS ATTEMPTING
03:55:19.772 --> 03:55:20.906
TO NOT TRY TO HIDE IT IS
03:55:20.973 --> 03:55:22.241
ATTEMPTING TO REVERSE THAT
03:55:22.308 --> 03:55:24.376
DECISION TO THE EXTENT THAT IT
03:55:24.443 --> 03:55:26.312
APPLIES.
03:55:26.378 --> 03:55:28.380
TO NONSENSICAL AUTHOR ILLOGICAL
03:55:28.447 --> 03:55:30.382
USE OF MULTIPLE DOMAIN NAMES IF
03:55:30.449 --> 03:55:31.784
THERE'S A VALID REASON TO USE
03:55:31.851 --> 03:55:33.319
MULTIPLE DOMAIN NAMES GREAT.
03:55:33.385 --> 03:55:34.753
PROCTER GAMBLE HAS A THOUSAND
03:55:34.820 --> 03:55:37.890
pTYPE DOT COM DOWNEY DOT COM
03:55:37.957 --> 03:55:40.526
CREST TOOTHPASTE DOT COMWHATEVER THEIR PRODUCTS ARE.
03:55:40.593 --> 03:55:42.228
NO PROBLEM THERE'S REAL BRANDS
03:55:42.294 --> 03:55:44.163
BEHIND IT WHEN CONSUMER GETS AN
03:55:44.230 --> 03:55:46.332
EMAIL FROM HIGH DOT COM THEY
03:55:46.398 --> 03:55:48.367
KNOW WHO IT'S FROM THE ISSUE IS
03:55:48.434 --> 03:55:49.935
HUNDREDS OF NONSENSICAL DOMAIN
03:55:50.002 --> 03:55:50.736
NAMES.
03:55:50.803 --> 03:55:53.372
MEANT FOR NO PURPOSE OTHER THAN
03:55:53.439 --> 03:55:54.907
TO AVOID FILTERS WITH THANK YOU.
03:55:54.974 --> 03:55:57.076
SENATOR GLACIER.
03:55:57.142 --> 03:55:59.111
YEAH THANK YOU ARE.
03:55:59.178 --> 03:56:00.980
I THINK WE'RE ALL SICK OF SPAM
03:56:01.046 --> 03:56:02.381
AND THAT IS NO DOUBT THAT THE
03:56:02.448 --> 03:56:03.449
GOALS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
03:56:03.516 --> 03:56:04.183
ACCOMPLISH IN THIS BILL OR
03:56:04.250 --> 03:56:06.085
SOMETHING THAT I CERTAINLY.
03:56:06.151 --> 03:56:08.754
I AM SUPPORTIVE OF AND SURE MY
03:56:08.821 --> 03:56:10.956
CONSTITUENTS ARE AS WELL.
03:56:11.023 --> 03:56:12.358
AND I DO FIND THIS TO BE --
03:56:12.424 --> 03:56:13.826
FAIRLY COMPLEX AREA I KNOW THE
03:56:13.893 --> 03:56:15.127
BILL WAS JUST REFERRED TO US
03:56:15.194 --> 03:56:16.996
THIS PAST WEEKEND.
03:56:17.062 --> 03:56:19.031
HASN'T GIVEN US A LOT OF TIME TO
03:56:19.098 --> 03:56:20.399
I THINK ANY DELVE INTO A LOT OF
03:56:20.466 --> 03:56:21.700
THAT ISSUES THAT ARE BEING
03:56:21.767 --> 03:56:23.235
RAISED.
03:56:23.302 --> 03:56:24.336
BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT DO
03:56:24.403 --> 03:56:26.372
TROUBLED ME HERE IN THIS BILL
03:56:26.438 --> 03:56:27.873
AND I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THIS ONE
03:56:27.940 --> 03:56:29.241
OF THEM.
03:56:29.308 --> 03:56:30.509
AND THE AND THAT'S THE ISSUE OF
03:56:30.576 --> 03:56:32.244
BURDEN OF PROOF.
03:56:32.311 --> 03:56:33.145
YOU TO BE PUTTING THE BURDEN OF
03:56:33.212 --> 03:56:34.780
PROOF.
03:56:34.847 --> 03:56:35.981
ON TO THE BUSINESS AND BEFORE
03:56:36.048 --> 03:56:37.316
YOU ANSWER THAT LET ME JUST ADD
03:56:37.383 --> 03:56:38.484
ONE MORE THING WHICH IS THAT.
03:56:38.551 --> 03:56:39.518
A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE
03:56:39.585 --> 03:56:41.787
FACE IN THESE TYPES OF BOB IT
03:56:41.854 --> 03:56:43.022
FORSMAN ACTIONS IS THAT YOU MAY
03:56:43.088 --> 03:56:44.256
HAVE A COUPLE BAD APPLES BUT WE
03:56:44.323 --> 03:56:45.491
DON'T WANNA.
03:56:45.558 --> 03:56:46.759
HAVE THAT AFFECT EVERYBODY ELSE
03:56:46.825 --> 03:56:48.594
OUT THERE RIGHT THAT'S DOING A
03:56:48.661 --> 03:56:50.663
REASONABLE THINGS UNDER THE LAW.
03:56:50.729 --> 03:56:51.530
YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT THEY'RE
03:56:51.597 --> 03:56:52.498
DOING EMAIL LIKE LIKE WHAT
03:56:52.565 --> 03:56:54.266
THEY'RE SAYING HOW THEY'RE DOING
03:56:54.333 --> 03:56:55.534
IT BUT THEIR WORK THEIR
03:56:55.601 --> 03:56:55.834
REASONABLE.
03:56:55.901 --> 03:56:57.336
UNDER THE LAW AND WE HAVE TO
03:56:57.403 --> 03:56:59.004
MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T WHEN
03:56:59.071 --> 03:57:00.005
TRYING TO CATCH THE BAD APPLES --
03:57:00.072 --> 03:57:02.508
ENCOMPASS.
03:57:02.575 --> 03:57:03.042
THOSE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN
03:57:03.108 --> 03:57:04.810
LEGITIMATE BUSINESS PRACTICES.
03:57:04.877 --> 03:57:05.711
BUT YOU DO CREATE A STANDARD OF
03:57:05.778 --> 03:57:07.413
PROOF.
03:57:07.479 --> 03:57:08.547
IT DOESN'T THAT THIS SEEMS LIKE
03:57:08.614 --> 03:57:10.249
IT'S DISCOUNT REVERSING THINGS
03:57:10.316 --> 03:57:11.283
HERE AND WANTED TO HAVE YOU
03:57:11.350 --> 03:57:14.019
ADDRESS THAT.
03:57:14.086 --> 03:57:16.221
I'M I'M ARE YOU REFERRING TO
03:57:16.288 --> 03:57:17.590
MODEL DOMAIN NAMES OR A OUT.
03:57:17.656 --> 03:57:20.359
OF IT -- THE
03:57:20.426 --> 03:57:23.128
IF THE LAW WERE ENACTED IN THE
03:57:23.195 --> 03:57:23.996
WAY THAT IS CURRENTLY APPEARS IN
03:57:24.063 --> 03:57:24.597
THE BILL.
03:57:24.663 --> 03:57:27.466
THEN MY BELIEF IS THAT NO
03:57:27.533 --> 03:57:29.935
ATTORNEY WOULD BRING A LAWSUIT
03:57:30.002 --> 03:57:31.937
AGAINST USING THE DISNEY EXAMPLE.
03:57:32.004 --> 03:57:32.504
WHERE THAT WERE THE ONLY
03:57:32.571 --> 03:57:34.506
VIOLATION MEAN IF IT DIDN'T HAVE
03:57:34.573 --> 03:57:35.074
FALL SUBJECT LINES THAT'S A
03:57:35.140 --> 03:57:36.976
DIFFERENT ISSUE AS FAR AS MULTI
03:57:37.042 --> 03:57:38.477
DOMAIN NAMES IS CONCERNED?
03:57:38.544 --> 03:57:40.913
IF THE STATUTE READ AS IT.
03:57:40.980 --> 03:57:43.082
IS IT APPEARS IN THE BILL WHERE
03:57:43.148 --> 03:57:44.383
I THINK ATTORNEY THAT BROUGHT A
03:57:44.450 --> 03:57:45.985
CASE UNDER THOSE GROUNDS WOULD
03:57:46.051 --> 03:57:47.319
BE SUBJECT TO SANCTIONS FOR
03:57:47.386 --> 03:57:48.821
FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS I THINK
03:57:48.887 --> 03:57:50.356
THERE'S A DETERRENT ON THAT SIDE.
03:57:50.422 --> 03:57:52.591
BOMB BECAUSE I DON'T ANYONE HERE
03:57:52.658 --> 03:57:53.659
ARE THE ANY REASON A PERSON
03:57:53.726 --> 03:57:55.294
WOULD CLAIM THAT DISNEY
03:57:55.361 --> 03:57:55.794
SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE
03:57:55.861 --> 03:57:57.396
MULTIPLE DOMAIN NAME.
03:57:57.463 --> 03:57:59.832
IF A LAWSUIT WERE FILED THEN THE
03:57:59.898 --> 03:58:01.900
DEFENDANT AS YOU SAID WOULD HAVE
03:58:01.967 --> 03:58:02.968
A BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVE THAT
03:58:03.035 --> 03:58:04.837
THERE'S A VALID REASON BUT THAT
03:58:04.903 --> 03:58:06.438
SORT OF BURDEN BUT A DEFENDANT
03:58:06.505 --> 03:58:07.773
HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF IN A
03:58:07.840 --> 03:58:09.241
LAWSUIT ANYWAY THAT'S THE NATURE
03:58:09.308 --> 03:58:10.776
OF BEING A DEFENDANT
03:58:10.843 --> 03:58:11.076
[inaudible]
03:58:11.143 --> 03:58:13.712
SO I'M.
03:58:13.779 --> 03:58:14.847
WELL IT WOULD SEEM THAT THAT
03:58:14.913 --> 03:58:16.048
UNDER THE WAY THE BILL'S RICH
03:58:16.115 --> 03:58:16.348
[inaudible]
03:58:16.415 --> 03:58:19.985
THAT.
03:58:20.052 --> 03:58:20.653
WHAT WHY SHOULD SETTLE FOR SO I
03:58:20.719 --> 03:58:21.720
FIND IT FASCINATING THAT YOU'RE
03:58:21.787 --> 03:58:22.921
USING AN EXAMPLE OF THAT?
03:58:22.988 --> 03:58:25.557
ONLY IN EXTREME ATTORNEY.
03:58:25.624 --> 03:58:27.159
NO WOULD IT WOULD TAKE THIS IS A
03:58:27.226 --> 03:58:28.727
CAUSE OF ACTION AND THAT MAY BE
03:58:28.794 --> 03:58:30.596
GUILTY OF MALPRACTICE IF THEY
03:58:30.663 --> 03:58:31.830
CONDUCTED THEMSELVES AND YET
03:58:31.897 --> 03:58:32.698
THAT'S THE SAME THING YOU'RE
03:58:32.765 --> 03:58:33.599
TRYING.
03:58:33.666 --> 03:58:34.633
TO ENCOMPASS IN THE BILL YOU'RE
03:58:34.700 --> 03:58:35.668
DOING IS TO GO AFTER THESE BAD
03:58:35.734 --> 03:58:37.302
APPLES AND IF YOU CREATE THE
03:58:37.369 --> 03:58:40.005
STANDARD ANYBODY CAN USE IT ANY
03:58:40.072 --> 03:58:41.740
WAY THEY WANT TO USE IT RIGHT.
03:58:41.807 --> 03:58:42.441
AND SO YOU'RE CREATING A
03:58:42.508 --> 03:58:44.343
STANDARD HERE THAT SAYS THAT.
03:58:44.410 --> 03:58:45.477
DEFENDANT HAS TO HAVE THE BURDEN
03:58:45.544 --> 03:58:46.945
OF PROOF TO SHOW THAT THEY WERE
03:58:47.012 --> 03:58:47.946
ENGAGED IN LEGITIMATE BEAT
03:58:48.013 --> 03:58:49.248
BUSINESS REASONS BUT THAT
03:58:49.314 --> 03:58:51.250
LAWSUIT COULD SAY WELL THE LAW
03:58:51.316 --> 03:58:51.817
SAYS YOU HAVE TO THAT'S THE
03:58:51.884 --> 03:58:52.918
BURDEN.
03:58:52.985 --> 03:58:54.586
PROVE IT THAT THAT YOU WERE
03:58:54.653 --> 03:58:56.622
TRYING TO EXPAND PEOPLE PROVE IT.
03:58:56.689 --> 03:59:00.025
WELL SPAM IS ALREADY AND WHETHER
03:59:00.092 --> 03:59:00.893
OR NOT IT'S SPAM IS SORT OF A
03:59:00.959 --> 03:59:02.494
SEPARATE QUESTION ON WHETHER OR
03:59:02.561 --> 03:59:04.129
NOT THERE REALLY IS DIRECTION
03:59:04.196 --> 03:59:05.130
SANTA NEVER IN THE FIELDS WITH
03:59:05.197 --> 03:59:07.199
SPAM BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
03:59:07.266 --> 03:59:08.667
MULTIPLE DOMAIN NAME ISSUE.
03:59:08.734 --> 03:59:10.669
I'M YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT THAT A
03:59:10.736 --> 03:59:12.604
PLAINTIFF THAT ALLEGED MULTIPLE
03:59:12.671 --> 03:59:14.406
DOMAIN NAMES FOR THE SOLE
03:59:14.473 --> 03:59:15.974
PURPOSE OF BYPASSING FILTERS
03:59:16.041 --> 03:59:17.009
YOU'RE RIGHT A DEFENDANT WOULD
03:59:17.076 --> 03:59:19.211
HAVE THE BURDEN OF SAYING NO ITS
03:59:19.278 --> 03:59:21.647
DAY I HAVE A VALID BUSINESS
03:59:21.714 --> 03:59:23.115
REASON AND HERE'S WHY --
03:59:23.182 --> 03:59:24.683
BUT BUT AGAIN I THINK THE
03:59:24.750 --> 03:59:25.617
PLAINTIFF WOULD --
03:59:25.684 --> 03:59:28.287
IN IN THAT SCENARIO WOULD HAVE --
03:59:28.353 --> 03:59:28.921
FOR THE PLAINTIFF ATTORNEY WOULD
03:59:28.987 --> 03:59:32.091
HAVE A SEAT.
03:59:32.157 --> 03:59:33.859
OKAY I I APPRECIATE THAT THAT
03:59:33.926 --> 03:59:35.527
FEEDBACK.
03:59:35.594 --> 03:59:37.229
THE DAMAGES SEEM VERY HIGH FOR
03:59:37.296 --> 03:59:39.565
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING --
03:59:39.631 --> 03:59:41.366
FOR BUT THE DAMAGE IS A PART OF
03:59:41.433 --> 03:59:42.201
THE EXISTING STATUTE THOUGH MY
03:59:42.267 --> 03:59:43.435
OWN TIME.
03:59:43.502 --> 03:59:45.804
AND I AM TROUBLED I HAVE NO
03:59:45.871 --> 03:59:47.072
PROBLEMS WITH THE EXPANSION OF
03:59:47.139 --> 03:59:48.607
THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE TO CITY
03:59:48.674 --> 03:59:49.875
ATTORNEYS AND AND THE DA'S
03:59:49.942 --> 03:59:51.477
EFFECT THAT I THINK THAT'S THE
03:59:51.543 --> 03:59:52.611
BETTER COURSE OF ACTION FOR A
03:59:52.678 --> 03:59:54.413
LOT OF PLACES IN OUR LAW AND I
03:59:54.480 --> 03:59:55.981
DON'T LIKE THE PRIVATE.
03:59:56.048 --> 03:59:57.316
RIGHT OF ACTION BECAUSE IF YOU
03:59:57.382 --> 03:59:58.650
HAVE A VIOLATED THE PUBLIC'S
03:59:58.717 --> 03:59:59.651
TRUST IT SHOULD BE AN
03:59:59.718 --> 04:00:01.186
INDIFFERENT VIGILANT GAZE THAT
04:00:01.253 --> 04:00:02.387
SHOULD BE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
04:00:02.454 --> 04:00:03.522
AGENCIES.
04:00:03.589 --> 04:00:04.923
AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
04:00:04.990 --> 04:00:06.125
WHO ARE THERE TO PROTECT OUR
04:00:06.191 --> 04:00:06.892
INTERESTS SO.
04:00:06.959 --> 04:00:07.826
LISTEN IF THEY'RE NOT THE MAIN
04:00:07.893 --> 04:00:09.428
STATUE CAME BACK.
04:00:09.495 --> 04:00:10.929
UP WITH A PRIVATE RIGHT OF
04:00:10.996 --> 04:00:11.697
ACTION I PRY WOULDN'T SUPPORT
04:00:11.764 --> 04:00:13.232
TODAY SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO
04:00:13.298 --> 04:00:13.899
THINK ABOUT ANY KIND OF
04:00:13.966 --> 04:00:14.767
EXPANSION.
04:00:14.833 --> 04:00:16.568
THAT ONLY CAN CREATE MORE
04:00:16.635 --> 04:00:18.070
JEOPARDY OUT OF THIS AND BUT I
04:00:18.137 --> 04:00:19.538
GET I I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE
04:00:19.605 --> 04:00:20.506
TRYING TO DO WITH THE BILL ON IT
04:00:20.572 --> 04:00:21.774
LIKE TO FIND SOME WAY.
04:00:21.840 --> 04:00:23.208
TO FIND THAT COMMON GROUND AS
04:00:23.275 --> 04:00:26.145
WELL AS WE GO FORWARD.
04:00:26.211 --> 04:00:28.847
IT'S SENATOR ALAN WADE THROUGH.
04:00:28.914 --> 04:00:30.215
I'M TWENTY CLARIFY HERE BECAUSE
04:00:30.282 --> 04:00:31.016
WE HAVE ONE SIDE SAYING IT THIS
04:00:31.083 --> 04:00:32.084
IS BASICALLY GONNA CREATE A
04:00:32.151 --> 04:00:32.684
STRICT LIABILITY PRIVATE RIGHT
04:00:32.751 --> 04:00:34.653
OF ACTION.
04:00:34.720 --> 04:00:35.754
IT'S GONNA BENEFIT IS THAT GROUP
04:00:35.821 --> 04:00:37.623
OF PLAINTIFFS' LAWYERS YOU'RE
04:00:37.689 --> 04:00:38.690
YOU'RE ARGUING THAT'S NOT THE
04:00:38.757 --> 04:00:40.726
CASE.
04:00:40.793 --> 04:00:44.429
AND CAN ARAGON MORE CLARITY AS
04:00:44.496 --> 04:00:46.165
TO WELL BROTHER AND THERE IS
04:00:46.231 --> 04:00:46.932
STRICT LIABILITY UNDER THE
04:00:46.999 --> 04:00:47.866
CURRENT STATUTE.
04:00:47.933 --> 04:00:49.268
ARM THE LEGISLATURE IMPOSE
04:00:49.334 --> 04:00:50.702
STRICT LIABILITY IN COURTS HAVE
04:00:50.769 --> 04:00:52.237
UPHELD IT BECAUSE OFTEN IT IS
04:00:52.304 --> 04:00:53.438
HARD TO TRACK DOWN THE ACTUAL
04:00:53.505 --> 04:00:54.373
SPAMMERS.
04:00:54.439 --> 04:00:56.308
SO STRICT LIABILITY IS ALREADY
04:00:56.375 --> 04:00:57.476
THERE -- THE
04:00:57.543 --> 04:00:58.010
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION IS
04:00:58.076 --> 04:01:00.646
ALREADY THERE --
04:01:00.712 --> 04:01:02.214
AGAIN THE THE I BELIEVE THAT'S
04:01:02.281 --> 04:01:03.849
IN PART BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE
04:01:03.916 --> 04:01:05.317
RECOGNIZED AS PART OF THE
04:01:05.384 --> 04:01:06.952
CURRENT STATUTE THAT RECIPIENTS
04:01:07.019 --> 04:01:08.954
ARE IN FACT HARMED AND WHILE IT
04:01:09.021 --> 04:01:10.289
WOULD BE GREAT IF THE ATTORNEY
04:01:10.355 --> 04:01:11.256
GENERAL IN THE FEDERAL TRADE
04:01:11.323 --> 04:01:12.691
COMMISSION DID MORE.
04:01:12.758 --> 04:01:13.926
THEY HAVE LOTS OF THINGS TO DO
04:01:13.992 --> 04:01:15.828
US IT'S MY BELIEF THAT IF YOU
04:01:15.894 --> 04:01:16.929
WANT.
04:01:16.995 --> 04:01:17.963
TO THAT IT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO
04:01:18.030 --> 04:01:19.298
ARE HARM SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT
04:01:19.364 --> 04:01:20.199
TO STAND UP AND DO SOMETHING
04:01:20.265 --> 04:01:20.799
ABOUT IT.
04:01:20.866 --> 04:01:22.367
WHICH SURELY DOES NOT PRECLUDE
04:01:22.434 --> 04:01:23.669
THE FTC OR THE ATTORNEY
04:01:23.735 --> 04:01:25.070
GENERAL'S OR ANYONE ELSE FROM
04:01:25.137 --> 04:01:26.271
DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT AS WELL
04:01:26.338 --> 04:01:26.572
[inaudible]
04:01:26.638 --> 04:01:28.574
OKAY SO.
04:01:28.640 --> 04:01:29.908
THE CALATHEA REPRESENTING TO OUR
04:01:29.975 --> 04:01:31.443
STAFF THAT IT WAS IT WAS
04:01:31.510 --> 04:01:33.879
CREATING THIS BUT I GUESS.
04:01:33.946 --> 04:01:35.747
YOU THAT'S ALREADY IN LAW.
04:01:35.814 --> 04:01:36.949
WELL IT MEANS THERE ARE WHAT IS
04:01:37.015 --> 04:01:38.350
HE DOING THIS BILL HAS BEEN
04:01:38.417 --> 04:01:40.085
PRESENTED AS A CLARIFICATION OF
04:01:40.152 --> 04:01:42.154
EXISTING LAW AN EXISTING LAW
04:01:42.221 --> 04:01:43.222
ENUMERATES THREE MAJOR
04:01:43.288 --> 04:01:45.257
CATEGORIES IN WHICH YOU CAN SUE.
04:01:45.324 --> 04:01:48.393
IF THERE'S FALSITY AND WHAT THIS
04:01:48.460 --> 04:01:51.330
DOES IS ADD ABOUT THREE TO FOUR
04:01:51.396 --> 04:01:51.830
TO FIVE MORE.
04:01:51.897 --> 04:01:54.366
AND IN AREAS WHERE COURTS HAVE
04:01:54.433 --> 04:01:55.234
ALREADY SAID THIS ISN'T
04:01:55.300 --> 04:01:56.835
DECEPTIVE THE AREAS WHERE COURTS
04:01:56.902 --> 04:01:58.704
OF ANY FOUNDERS NO HARM.
04:01:58.770 --> 04:02:00.939
THESE THINGS ARE BEING ADDED ON
04:02:01.006 --> 04:02:03.442
TO BENEFIT YOU MISTER BALSAM AND
04:02:03.508 --> 04:02:04.776
OTHER LAWYERS LIKE HIM IS ONLY A
04:02:04.843 --> 04:02:05.878
HANDFUL OF THEM.
04:02:05.944 --> 04:02:07.512
AND THEN AND CREATING EIGHTY TO
04:02:07.579 --> 04:02:08.513
YOUR QUESTION ABOUT A
04:02:08.580 --> 04:02:09.281
PRESUMPTION.
04:02:09.348 --> 04:02:11.650
IT CRANK RESUMPTION THAT YOU USE
04:02:11.717 --> 04:02:13.952
MULTIPLE DOMAINS THAT SOMEHOW
04:02:14.019 --> 04:02:15.087
EUROPEAN YOUR TO FILING YOUR
04:02:15.153 --> 04:02:16.355
DECEPTIVE.
04:02:16.421 --> 04:02:18.590
AND SO THEN YOU HAVE THE BURNING
04:02:18.657 --> 04:02:19.625
YOUNG GET GET I GET A LETTER
04:02:19.691 --> 04:02:22.561
FROM THEM SAYING YOU KNOW PROVE
04:02:22.628 --> 04:02:23.829
IT O. OR SETTLING MEEKS I THINK
04:02:23.896 --> 04:02:24.830
I HAVE A CLAIM.
04:02:24.897 --> 04:02:26.832
AND YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK THAT
04:02:26.899 --> 04:02:27.499
THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE
04:02:27.566 --> 04:02:28.734
MUSCLED CALLING ON THE KINDNESS
04:02:28.800 --> 04:02:30.335
OF PLAINTIFFS LAWYERS HERE.
04:02:30.402 --> 04:02:32.237
BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHO USES
04:02:32.304 --> 04:02:33.639
MULTIPLE DOMAIN NAMES THE
04:02:33.705 --> 04:02:35.274
CALIFORNIA LAWYERS ASSOCIATION
04:02:35.340 --> 04:02:36.708
USES MULTIPLE TO NAME NAMES THE
04:02:36.775 --> 04:02:38.310
CLINTON FOUNDATION USES MULTIPLE
04:02:38.377 --> 04:02:38.944
NAMES.
04:02:39.011 --> 04:02:40.178
YOU GO THROUGH YOUR YOUR SPAM
04:02:40.245 --> 04:02:42.514
FOLDER YOU'RE IN LOOK AT ALL THE
04:02:42.581 --> 04:02:43.715
EMAILS ARE FILLED THEM LIVE ON
04:02:43.782 --> 04:02:45.584
THE A ONE THE NOT SPAM THE EMAIL
04:02:45.651 --> 04:02:46.785
SHE CONSENTED.
04:02:46.852 --> 04:02:49.488
TO A LOT OF THEM USE MULTIPLE
04:02:49.554 --> 04:02:51.957
DOMAIN IS FOR OF JUST FOR GOOD
04:02:52.024 --> 04:02:53.158
BASED ON THE SET OF THE NOT
04:02:53.225 --> 04:02:55.127
BASED ON POLICY THERE'S BASED ON
04:02:55.193 --> 04:02:56.862
A LOT OF THINGS AND AND NONE OF
04:02:56.929 --> 04:02:57.696
THEM WHICH HAVING TO DO WITH
04:02:57.763 --> 04:02:58.263
DECEPTION.
04:02:58.330 --> 04:02:59.264
IN HERE WE JUST TALK ABOUT THIS
04:02:59.331 --> 04:03:01.600
OPTION.
04:03:01.667 --> 04:03:04.603
HOW CAN WE CLARIFY SO?
04:03:04.670 --> 04:03:06.805
WELL YOU KNOW WE USE MAILCHIMP
04:03:06.872 --> 04:03:08.206
CONSEQUENT THAT WERE MISSING
04:03:08.273 --> 04:03:09.875
LOTS OF DIFFERENT AND EMAIL.
04:03:09.942 --> 04:03:11.009
DOMAIN NAMES FOR DIFFERENT
04:03:11.076 --> 04:03:13.679
SEGMENTED LISTS MAILCHIMP OFTEN
04:03:13.745 --> 04:03:16.114
USES MULTIPLE THE MADNESS REALLY
04:03:16.181 --> 04:03:16.748
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
04:03:16.815 --> 04:03:17.249
GET OUT HERE [inaudible]
04:03:17.316 --> 04:03:19.952
WORK.
04:03:20.018 --> 04:03:21.353
NO NO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET AT
04:03:21.420 --> 04:03:23.455
DEL MAR MULTIPLE DOMAIN ISSUES
04:03:23.522 --> 04:03:25.123
YOU KNOW AT LARGE BUT A WHICH IS
04:03:25.190 --> 04:03:27.092
TO LOOKING AT FOLKS WHO USE
04:03:27.159 --> 04:03:28.827
MULTIPLE DOMAINS TO BASICALLY.
04:03:28.894 --> 04:03:31.029
THE SEAT TO SYSTEM OR BASICALLY
04:03:31.096 --> 04:03:33.065
TO BASICALLY ALL BYPASS THE SPAM
04:03:33.131 --> 04:03:35.067
FILTERS AND THAT'S THAT'S THE
04:03:35.133 --> 04:03:36.802
YOU KNOW THE JUST OF THE BILL
04:03:36.868 --> 04:03:39.204
ENEMY JUST THE ALSO JUST TO YOU
04:03:39.271 --> 04:03:39.604
KNOW JUST HAVE.
04:03:39.671 --> 04:03:40.372
TO LIVE THERE IS THERE WERE
04:03:40.439 --> 04:03:42.674
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THE NEW
04:03:42.741 --> 04:03:43.809
QUARTER CORNING CALLED PRIVATE
04:03:43.875 --> 04:03:45.510
RIGHT OF ACTION.
04:03:45.577 --> 04:03:47.079
IT WOULD NOT CREATING ANY.
04:03:47.145 --> 04:03:48.880
NEW PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION FOR
04:03:48.947 --> 04:03:50.415
ANY INDIVIDUALS WE ARE JUST
04:03:50.482 --> 04:03:51.917
SIMPLY ALLOWING THE DISTRICT
04:03:51.984 --> 04:03:53.618
ATTORNEY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY
04:03:53.685 --> 04:03:55.921
TO BE ABLE TO BRING LAWSUITS ON
04:03:55.988 --> 04:03:56.989
BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC.
04:03:57.055 --> 04:03:58.557
BUT THE ONLY THING THAT WE
04:03:58.623 --> 04:04:00.792
ADDING IS D. ARE YOU KNOW THAT
04:04:00.859 --> 04:04:02.094
THE BUT THE BODY ARE AND ALSO
04:04:02.160 --> 04:04:03.862
THE THE HEADER SITUATION THAT WE
04:04:03.929 --> 04:04:05.764
TALKED ABOUT SO WE NOT CREATING
04:04:05.831 --> 04:04:08.200
ANY BRAND NEW PRIVATE RIGHT OF
04:04:08.266 --> 04:04:11.403
ACTION BEFORE WAS A LIST OF THE
04:04:11.470 --> 04:04:13.505
FALSE AND DECEPTIVE PARDONS.
04:04:13.572 --> 04:04:15.574
IF THERE EXAMPLES OF DURING SEEM
04:04:15.640 --> 04:04:16.208
TO STEP IN THE CURRENT STATUTE
04:04:16.274 --> 04:04:16.775
HAS REMAINED AT THE CURRENT
04:04:16.842 --> 04:04:17.609
STATUTE WAS WRITTEN IN.
04:04:17.676 --> 04:04:18.243
TWO THOUSAND THREE THERE'S BEEN
04:04:18.310 --> 04:04:18.844
A LOT OF LEARNING SINCE THAT
04:04:18.910 --> 04:04:19.878
WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW IT'S IT'S
04:04:19.945 --> 04:04:21.113
GOOD -- IT'S
04:04:21.179 --> 04:04:21.713
IT'S A LITTLE VAGUE IT DOESN'T
04:04:21.780 --> 04:04:24.316
REALLY THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF
04:04:24.383 --> 04:04:25.684
THIS -- BOTH
04:04:25.751 --> 04:04:27.085
FOR THE EXAMPLES OF THE FALSITY
04:04:27.152 --> 04:04:28.387
AND ALSO TO GET THE REDUCTION IN
04:04:28.453 --> 04:04:29.855
DAMAGES THIS STATUTE BY
04:04:29.921 --> 04:04:32.290
PROVIDING EXAMPLES HELPS FILL IN
04:04:32.357 --> 04:04:33.892
THE GAPS OF THE CURRENT LAW IT
04:04:33.959 --> 04:04:35.527
TELLS MARKETERS.
04:04:35.594 --> 04:04:36.995
HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO
04:04:37.062 --> 04:04:38.563
NOT GET IN TROUBLE NOT
04:04:38.630 --> 04:04:39.698
ADDRESSING VAGUENESS YOUR YOU
04:04:39.765 --> 04:04:40.432
TRY TO REVERSE COURT DECISIONS
04:04:40.499 --> 04:04:42.034
THAT EXPLICITLY SAID WHAT YOU
04:04:42.100 --> 04:04:43.635
WHAT YOU CLAIM IS WRONG IT IS
04:04:43.702 --> 04:04:45.203
NOT DECEPTIVE.
04:04:45.270 --> 04:04:46.571
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY
04:04:46.638 --> 04:04:47.639
WHERE COURT SAID THERE'S NO HARM
04:04:47.706 --> 04:04:47.939
[inaudible]
04:04:48.006 --> 04:04:50.642
OKAY.
04:04:50.709 --> 04:04:51.276
THE WAY TO THE QUESTION SENATOR
04:04:51.343 --> 04:04:52.244
ALLEN [inaudible]
04:04:52.310 --> 04:04:54.646
WELL I'M.
04:04:54.713 --> 04:04:56.014
BUT I MEAN IT IT'S AYE RELIGIOUS
04:04:56.081 --> 04:04:59.818
PUNS COMMITTEE A DAY AGO AND I'M
04:04:59.885 --> 04:05:03.855
GLAD THAT EXCUSE GOING OVER THAT
04:05:03.922 --> 04:05:04.589
THAT DOES NOT OVERALL GENERAL
04:05:04.656 --> 04:05:04.890
[inaudible]
04:05:04.956 --> 04:05:05.223
YEAH.
04:05:05.290 --> 04:05:07.192
WITH THAT EXCUSE [inaudible]
04:05:07.259 --> 04:05:08.393
THAT -- BUT
04:05:08.460 --> 04:05:11.363
IT IS IT IS A I I I REALLY WITH
04:05:11.430 --> 04:05:12.697
THINK I MEAN I AYE AYES AYE I
04:05:12.764 --> 04:05:13.999
GET THE SENSE OF WHAT YOU'RE
04:05:14.066 --> 04:05:15.367
TRYING TO GET OUT HERE --
04:05:15.434 --> 04:05:16.568
MISTER CHAU AND I AM VERY
04:05:16.635 --> 04:05:17.602
SYMPATHETIC TO IT IS SOMEONE WHO
04:05:17.669 --> 04:05:20.605
RECEIVES A LOT OF SPAM EMAIL.
04:05:20.672 --> 04:05:21.406
ARE BUT AND I I DO THINK THAT
04:05:21.473 --> 04:05:23.608
YOU.
04:05:23.675 --> 04:05:24.376
YOU KNOW THAT DID IT DID IT
04:05:24.443 --> 04:05:25.010
WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT YOU WANT
04:05:25.077 --> 04:05:28.413
TO CLARIFY A BIT RELATING.
04:05:28.480 --> 04:05:30.115
TO I'D DIFFERENT DOMAIN NAMES.
04:05:30.182 --> 04:05:31.716
AS A RESULT AS IT RELATES TO
04:05:31.783 --> 04:05:34.386
LEGITIMATE --
04:05:34.453 --> 04:05:37.422
YOU KNOW.
04:05:37.489 --> 04:05:39.724
CONTACT AYE I GUESS.
04:05:39.791 --> 04:05:40.392
YOU KNOW JUST AS THE DEVIL'S IN
04:05:40.459 --> 04:05:41.226
THE DETAILS IN TERMS OF HOW YOU
04:05:41.293 --> 04:05:43.728
DIFFERENTIATE BUT ON IT IT IT IT
04:05:43.795 --> 04:05:45.797
SEEMS FROM THE DISCUSSION AND
04:05:45.864 --> 04:05:46.765
WHAT I'VE SEEN.
04:05:46.832 --> 04:05:48.333
IN THE NOW SUSPENDED SETTLE TOO
04:05:48.400 --> 04:05:49.267
VAGUE I WAS WANTING NESBITT THE
04:05:49.334 --> 04:05:51.236
COMMITTEE WORK ON THIS AT ALL
04:05:51.303 --> 04:05:53.071
AND OFFER ANY AMENDMENTS ON THAT.
04:05:53.138 --> 04:05:53.872
LIST WITH HIS EYES THIS IS A
04:05:53.939 --> 04:05:55.707
DOUBLE REFER TO JUDICIARY NEXT
04:05:55.774 --> 04:05:56.675
WEEK IT WAS WHERE WE'LL BE GOING
04:05:56.741 --> 04:05:58.276
SO WE DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
04:05:58.343 --> 04:06:01.346
TO ADD AMENDMENTS TO IT NOW WE
04:06:01.413 --> 04:06:03.148
CAN CERTAINLY --
04:06:03.215 --> 04:06:04.416
PITCH AMENDMENT FROM THE AUTHOR
04:06:04.483 --> 04:06:05.984
ON CERTAIN AMENDMENTS AND IF
04:06:06.051 --> 04:06:07.052
THEY'RE NOT WE CAN CERTAINLY
04:06:07.119 --> 04:06:09.421
BRING IT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE.
04:06:09.488 --> 04:06:10.889
FOR REVIEW AND AT ANY PARTICULAR
04:06:10.956 --> 04:06:12.958
TIME THAT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT WE
04:06:13.024 --> 04:06:14.726
CAN WORK WITH THIS.
04:06:14.793 --> 04:06:15.927
SHE HOW WE CAN DO THAT AND I'M
04:06:15.994 --> 04:06:17.329
FAIRLY WILLING AND HAPPY TO DO
04:06:17.395 --> 04:06:19.431
THAT FOR THE AUTHOR.
04:06:19.498 --> 04:06:21.867
I'M DEFINITELY ARE.
04:06:21.933 --> 04:06:24.336
WILLING TO COMMITTEE I MEDICALLY
04:06:24.402 --> 04:06:25.871
WHAT CLARITY HERE AND ADOPTED IT
04:06:25.937 --> 04:06:27.038
THINK THAT'S ISSUES AND CLARITY
04:06:27.105 --> 04:06:29.808
AND AND IN SOME REFINEMENT OR
04:06:29.875 --> 04:06:31.176
HOW THAT THAT APPLIES USES AN
04:06:31.243 --> 04:06:32.477
IMPORTANT ISSUE.
04:06:32.544 --> 04:06:33.912
RELATED TO THAT.
04:06:33.979 --> 04:06:34.212
EXTENSIVE --
04:06:34.279 --> 04:06:37.682
HAVE SELLING.
04:06:37.749 --> 04:06:42.053
IN YOU COULD WORK WITH OUR
04:06:42.120 --> 04:06:44.256
COMMITTEE.
04:06:44.322 --> 04:06:46.391
STAFF TO TRIED IT.
04:06:46.458 --> 04:06:47.659
WORKED I KNOW JIM DIGI JUDICIARY
04:06:47.726 --> 04:06:48.894
COMMITTEE WILL BE WORKING THAT
04:06:48.960 --> 04:06:50.362
IS WELL WITH YOU BUT WILL IT WE
04:06:50.428 --> 04:06:51.496
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE
04:06:51.563 --> 04:06:52.130
COVERED THOSE ISSUES THAT HAVE
04:06:52.197 --> 04:06:53.598
BEEN RAISED BY MEMBERS HERE
04:06:53.665 --> 04:06:57.869
TODAY.
04:06:57.936 --> 04:06:59.838
SO SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH
04:06:59.905 --> 04:07:01.239
JUDICIARY AND AND THEY HAVE
04:07:01.306 --> 04:07:02.607
AMENDMENTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN
04:07:02.674 --> 04:07:03.675
WORKING HARD TO SHOW.
04:07:03.742 --> 04:07:05.010
WE'LL WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM TO
04:07:05.076 --> 04:07:06.244
SEE THAT WE CAN CRAFT SOMETHING
04:07:06.311 --> 04:07:08.880
THAT WILL WORK FOR THE MEMBERS
04:07:08.947 --> 04:07:09.648
OF THIS COMMITTEE HAVE OF A
04:07:09.714 --> 04:07:10.782
GREAT.
04:07:10.849 --> 04:07:11.383
YOU HAVE THAT COMMITMENT FROM
04:07:11.449 --> 04:07:12.684
AMEND NO THEY WERE YOU YOU HAD A
04:07:12.751 --> 04:07:14.886
LOT OF OPPOSITION FOR FROM
04:07:14.953 --> 04:07:15.987
CHAMBER AND OTHERS AND YOU CAN
04:07:16.054 --> 04:07:16.955
WORK TO GET THAT OPPOSITION OFF
04:07:17.022 --> 04:07:17.856
OVER TIME AND AND THEY'RE PRETTY
04:07:17.923 --> 04:07:20.058
SENSITIVE TO THAT.
04:07:20.125 --> 04:07:21.293
BY LEWIS LAWSUIT CEO PLAYED ITS
04:07:21.359 --> 04:07:22.861
PART WITH THE LATEST SET OF
04:07:22.928 --> 04:07:24.196
AMENDMENTS ARE THAT CALTRAIN
04:07:24.262 --> 04:07:25.797
BRAIN ALSO CANTIERE PLUS A
04:07:25.864 --> 04:07:26.398
COUPLE OTHER --
04:07:26.464 --> 04:07:28.066
ONES ALSO REMOVE THEIR
04:07:28.133 --> 04:07:31.670
OPPOSITION CORRECT.
04:07:31.736 --> 04:07:32.837
VERY VERY GOOD A YOU KNOW FOR
04:07:32.904 --> 04:07:34.206
THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WOULD
04:07:34.272 --> 04:07:35.840
YOU LIKE TO CLUB RESPECTFULLY
04:07:35.907 --> 04:07:36.775
ASK HER I'VE HAD EVEN THOUGHT
04:07:36.841 --> 04:07:37.375
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH AND WE
04:07:37.442 --> 04:07:38.176
HAVE A COMMITMENT TO TO WORK
04:07:38.243 --> 04:07:39.477
WITH THE COMMITTEE CONSULTANT
04:07:39.544 --> 04:07:41.246
THE STAFF TO KIND OF REFINE THAT
04:07:41.313 --> 04:07:44.349
THAT ISSUE IN THE JUDICIARY.
04:07:44.416 --> 04:07:46.451
COMMITTEE OBSOLETE.
04:07:46.518 --> 04:07:46.952
VERY GOOD SO IF I COULD
04:07:47.018 --> 04:07:50.021
ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
04:07:50.088 --> 04:07:51.856
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR
04:07:51.923 --> 04:07:54.459
DODD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
04:07:54.526 --> 04:07:54.993
AND IS TO PASS THE SENATE
04:07:55.060 --> 04:07:57.329
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HEALTH AYE
04:07:57.395 --> 04:07:58.630
HILL AYE FULLER.
04:07:58.697 --> 04:08:00.198
ALAN.
04:08:00.265 --> 04:08:01.833
ALLEN I THOUGHT I THOUGHT I
04:08:01.900 --> 04:08:02.701
GALGIANI.
04:08:02.767 --> 04:08:04.636
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
04:08:04.703 --> 04:08:07.272
I TO KNOW [inaudible]
04:08:07.339 --> 04:08:09.274
GLAZER.
04:08:09.341 --> 04:08:10.709
LATER NOW HERNANDEZ [inaudible]
04:08:10.775 --> 04:08:12.544
PAN.
04:08:12.611 --> 04:08:16.781
WELL NO LOOK NOW. THREE VOTES
04:08:16.848 --> 04:08:18.250
WILL HOLD THE RULE OPEN FOR
04:08:18.316 --> 04:08:19.150
ABSENT MEMBERS OF THE YEAR.
04:08:19.217 --> 04:08:21.119
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:08:21.186 --> 04:08:22.654
THANK YOU THANK YOU [inaudible]
04:08:22.721 --> 04:08:38.837
YOU HAVE
04:09:03.795 --> 04:09:03.862
.
04:09:03.862 --> 04:09:04.763
MY APOLOGIES BUT SINCE OUR
04:09:04.829 --> 04:09:06.097
SESSION STARTED AND WE DON'T
04:09:06.164 --> 04:09:08.033
HAVE THE LUXURY OF ADDING ON TO
04:09:08.099 --> 04:09:09.567
ITEMS AND BILLS IN THE SENATE AS
04:09:09.634 --> 04:09:12.037
YOU DO IN THE ASSEMBLY WE'RE
04:09:12.103 --> 04:09:13.338
GOING TO HAVE.
04:09:13.405 --> 04:09:14.906
TO RECESS UNTIL OUR SESSION
04:09:14.973 --> 04:09:16.574
CONCLUDES AND THEN RECONVENE
04:09:16.641 --> 04:09:19.411
HERE AFTER THAT MY APOLOGIES. TO
04:09:19.477 --> 04:09:22.213
TO ALL OF YOU ORINDA.
04:09:22.280 --> 04:09:23.748
THANK YOU KNOW.
04:09:23.815 --> 04:09:25.450
WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL THE END OF
04:09:25.517 --> 04:09:26.418
OUR SESSION AND LET IN THE
04:09:26.484 --> 04:09:31.823
LEGISLATURE [inaudible]
04:09:31.890 --> 04:09:58.950
BUT I SESSIONS OVER [inaudible]
04:09:59.017 --> 04:10:01.586
VIENEN THE SENATE BUSINESS
04:10:01.653 --> 04:10:03.288
AND PROFESSIONS COMMITTEE FOR
04:10:03.355 --> 04:10:05.056
THIS AFTERNOON ARE HEARING.
04:10:05.123 --> 04:10:06.691
AND GO DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING AND
04:10:06.758 --> 04:10:07.392
GO BACK TO SOME OF THE BILLS
04:10:07.459 --> 04:10:09.094
THAT WE HAVE TAKEN UP BUT HAVE
04:10:09.160 --> 04:10:11.129
NOT VOTED ON AND DO NOT HAVE
04:10:11.196 --> 04:10:14.566
MOTIONS ON WILL START AT THE TOP.
04:10:14.632 --> 04:10:17.035
AB TWELVE FORTY SEVEN AM BILL.
04:10:17.102 --> 04:10:18.103
WE HAVE A MOVE MOTION FROM
04:10:18.169 --> 04:10:22.440
SENATOR DR PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
04:10:22.507 --> 04:10:23.375
QUESTION IS DO PASSED
04:10:23.441 --> 04:10:23.675
[inaudible]
04:10:23.742 --> 04:10:24.676
I WAIT.
04:10:24.743 --> 04:10:27.312
ITEM NUMBER ONE AB TWELVE FORTY
04:10:27.379 --> 04:10:28.446
SEVEN MOTION IS TO PASS AS
04:10:28.513 --> 04:10:30.749
AMENDED TO SENATE JUDICIARY
04:10:30.815 --> 04:10:31.216
COMMITTEE.
04:10:31.282 --> 04:10:33.685
HILL I FELL AYE FULLER.
04:10:33.752 --> 04:10:35.253
ALLEN.
04:10:35.320 --> 04:10:37.622
ALLEN I DOT.
04:10:37.689 --> 04:10:39.023
DOT AYE GALGIANI.
04:10:39.090 --> 04:10:40.925
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
04:10:40.992 --> 04:10:42.894
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
04:10:42.961 --> 04:10:44.195
AYE PAN.
04:10:44.262 --> 04:10:49.033
BUT I CAN'T AYE WILK. SEVEN
04:10:49.100 --> 04:10:49.934
VOTES WILL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN
04:10:50.001 --> 04:10:52.003
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS ITEM NUMBER
04:10:52.070 --> 04:10:54.072
TWO AB FOURTEEN THIRTY SIX IS
04:10:54.139 --> 04:10:56.274
THERE A MOTION [inaudible]
04:10:56.341 --> 04:10:58.042
JOSE.
04:10:58.109 --> 04:10:58.810
SO MOVED BY SENATOR GLAZIER
04:10:58.877 --> 04:11:00.211
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:11:00.278 --> 04:11:01.379
OF PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MOTION
04:11:01.446 --> 04:11:03.348
AS DO PASS AS AMENDED TO SENATE
04:11:03.415 --> 04:11:05.650
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HILL
04:11:05.717 --> 04:11:06.985
AYE HILL AYE FULLER.
04:11:07.051 --> 04:11:08.286
ALLEN.
04:11:08.353 --> 04:11:10.021
ALLEN I DOT.
04:11:10.088 --> 04:11:11.823
DOT AYE GALGIANI.
04:11:11.890 --> 04:11:13.725
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER GLAZER AYE
04:11:13.792 --> 04:11:14.759
HERNANDEZ.
04:11:14.826 --> 04:11:17.095
HERNANDEZ AYE PAN.
04:11:17.162 --> 04:11:20.131
AND I WILK.
04:11:20.198 --> 04:11:20.732
THE BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES WILL
04:11:20.799 --> 04:11:21.800
HOLD THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
04:11:21.866 --> 04:11:23.401
MEMBERS WILL MOVE TO ITEM THREE
04:11:23.468 --> 04:11:26.070
AB SEVENTEEN FIFTY ONE ASSEMBLY
04:11:26.137 --> 04:11:29.207
MEMBER LOW IS THERE A MOTION.
04:11:29.274 --> 04:11:31.309
SO MOVE SENATOR GLAZIER.
04:11:31.376 --> 04:11:32.577
A PLEASE CALL THE ROLL QUESTION
04:11:32.644 --> 04:11:34.612
IS DO PASSED THE PUBLIC SAFETY
04:11:34.679 --> 04:11:37.015
COMMITTEE HELP AYE HILL AYE
04:11:37.081 --> 04:11:37.248
FULLER.
04:11:37.315 --> 04:11:38.850
ALLEN.
04:11:38.917 --> 04:11:41.753
ALLEN AYE DODD DODD AYE GALGIANI.
04:11:41.820 --> 04:11:43.555
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
04:11:43.621 --> 04:11:44.989
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ.
04:11:45.056 --> 04:11:47.325
HERNANDEZ AYE PAN [inaudible]
04:11:47.392 --> 04:11:50.195
WILK [inaudible]
04:11:50.261 --> 04:11:52.864
FIXED THE BILL HAS SIX VOTES
04:11:52.931 --> 04:11:53.865
WILL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN DOOR
04:11:53.932 --> 04:11:55.934
ABSENT MEMBERS ITEM NUMBER FOUR
04:11:56.000 --> 04:11:57.769
AB SEVENTEEN FIFTY TWO BY
04:11:57.836 --> 04:11:59.003
ASSEMBLYMEMBER LOW WE HAVE A
04:11:59.070 --> 04:12:00.038
MOTION FROM SENATOR DODD.
04:12:00.104 --> 04:12:02.006
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
04:12:02.073 --> 04:12:03.508
BUT SHOULD DO PASS THE SENATE
04:12:03.575 --> 04:12:05.510
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HILL AYE.
04:12:05.577 --> 04:12:08.580
HILL AYE FULLER ALAN.
04:12:08.646 --> 04:12:09.714
HELEN I'D DODD.
04:12:09.781 --> 04:12:13.218
DODD AYE GALGIANI.
04:12:13.284 --> 04:12:15.119
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
04:12:15.186 --> 04:12:16.855
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ.
04:12:16.921 --> 04:12:18.490
PRETEND IT'S AYE PAN.
04:12:18.556 --> 04:12:20.124
I AND I WILK [inaudible]
04:12:20.191 --> 04:12:23.928
AND THE BILL HAD SEVEN VOTES
04:12:23.995 --> 04:12:24.896
WILL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN FOR
04:12:24.963 --> 04:12:26.731
ABSENT MEMBERS I REMEMBER FIVE
04:12:26.798 --> 04:12:29.067
ASSEMBLY BILL. SEVENTEEN FIFTY
04:12:29.133 --> 04:12:30.635
THREE BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER LOW
04:12:30.702 --> 04:12:32.770
PLEASE CALLED UP IS OUR MOTION.
04:12:32.837 --> 04:12:34.606
ON ITEM NUMBER.
04:12:34.672 --> 04:12:35.373
FIVE SENATOR DODD THANK YOU VERY
04:12:35.440 --> 04:12:36.875
MUCH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION
04:12:36.941 --> 04:12:38.076
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
04:12:38.142 --> 04:12:39.944
MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
04:12:40.011 --> 04:12:41.479
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HILL AYE.
04:12:41.546 --> 04:12:42.580
HILL AYE FULLER [inaudible]
04:12:42.647 --> 04:12:44.582
ALLEN.
04:12:44.649 --> 04:12:45.817
ALLEN I DONT.
04:12:45.884 --> 04:12:48.586
DODD AYE GALGIANI [inaudible]
04:12:48.653 --> 04:12:51.122
YEAH.
04:12:51.189 --> 04:12:52.757
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
04:12:52.824 --> 04:12:54.259
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
04:12:54.325 --> 04:12:55.894
AYE PAN.
04:12:55.960 --> 04:12:59.831
BUT I CAN I WILL. SEVEN SEVEN
04:12:59.898 --> 04:13:00.732
ZERO SO FAR WILL HOLD THE RULE
04:13:00.798 --> 04:13:01.299
OF THUMB FOR ABSENT MEMBERS
04:13:01.366 --> 04:13:02.534
MOVING.
04:13:02.600 --> 04:13:05.403
TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AB NINETEEN
04:13:05.470 --> 04:13:06.804
OH SIX BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER.
04:13:06.871 --> 04:13:08.206
IS OUR MOTION I'M SURE WE DO
04:13:08.273 --> 04:13:10.909
HAVE THEIR OF MOTION ALREADY IS
04:13:10.975 --> 04:13:12.176
SPECIFICALLY AFTER MEMBERS
04:13:12.243 --> 04:13:13.411
MOTION HAS TO PASS THE SENATE
04:13:13.478 --> 04:13:16.447
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE [inaudible]
04:13:16.514 --> 04:13:17.148
THREE ZERO FULLER [inaudible]
04:13:17.215 --> 04:13:19.951
GALGIANI.
04:13:20.018 --> 04:13:22.086
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
04:13:22.153 --> 04:13:23.755
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ.
04:13:23.821 --> 04:13:25.423
HERNANDEZ AYE PAN AYE I CAN I
04:13:25.490 --> 04:13:32.030
WILL. SEVEN IMAGE SEVEN BUT WILL
04:13:32.096 --> 04:13:33.231
HOLD THE RULING PREFER ABSENT
04:13:33.298 --> 04:13:34.699
MEMBERS THERE AS WELL WITHOUT
04:13:34.766 --> 04:13:35.900
THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
04:13:35.967 --> 04:13:37.969
WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER TEN AND
04:13:38.036 --> 04:13:41.339
ITEM NUMBER FIFTEEN IT'S AB
04:13:41.406 --> 04:13:42.640
TWENTY FIVE EIGHTY SIX AND AB
04:13:42.707 --> 04:13:43.274
TWENTY TWO NINETY SIX IS THERE A
04:13:43.341 --> 04:13:44.175
MOTION ON THE CONSENT COUNTY
04:13:44.242 --> 04:13:45.143
SENATOR GLAZER.
04:13:45.209 --> 04:13:46.911
WELL MOTION THANK YOU.
04:13:46.978 --> 04:13:48.746
PLEASE CALL THE MEMBERS RURAL
04:13:48.813 --> 04:13:50.148
HILL AYE HILL AYE FULLER
04:13:50.214 --> 04:13:50.448
[inaudible]
04:13:50.515 --> 04:13:52.317
ALAN.
04:13:52.383 --> 04:13:53.952
ALLEN AYE DODD AYE DODD AYE
04:13:54.018 --> 04:13:55.119
GALGIANI.
04:13:55.186 --> 04:13:56.921
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
04:13:56.988 --> 04:13:58.756
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ AYE
04:13:58.823 --> 04:14:00.425
HERNANDEZ AYE PAN.
04:14:00.491 --> 04:14:05.029
AND AYE WILK AYE AYE WILK AYE.
04:14:05.096 --> 04:14:11.202
FULLER AYE FULLER AYE. EIGHT OR
04:14:11.269 --> 04:14:11.769
NINE NINE NINE TWO ZERO THE
04:14:11.836 --> 04:14:12.904
CONSENT CALENDAR IS OUT.
04:14:12.971 --> 04:14:14.572
MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER
04:14:14.639 --> 04:14:14.872
[inaudible]
04:14:14.939 --> 04:14:19.744
A ELEVEN AB.
04:14:19.811 --> 04:14:20.278
TWENTY ONE THIRTY EIGHT BY
04:14:20.345 --> 04:14:21.412
ASSEMBLYMEMBER CHIU.
04:14:21.479 --> 04:14:24.248
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
04:14:24.315 --> 04:14:27.852
YES AS AMENDED.
04:14:27.919 --> 04:14:29.420
THAT MOTION IS DUE PASSED THE
04:14:29.487 --> 04:14:31.656
SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
04:14:31.723 --> 04:14:32.557
TRENT VOTES.
04:14:32.624 --> 04:14:34.592
TWO ZERO FULLER.
04:14:34.659 --> 04:14:37.128
FULLER NOW ALLEN.
04:14:37.195 --> 04:14:39.464
ALLEN AYE GALGIANI.
04:14:39.530 --> 04:14:40.965
GALGIANI NOW.
04:14:41.032 --> 04:14:42.300
LASER.
04:14:42.367 --> 04:14:44.402
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
04:14:44.469 --> 04:14:45.737
AYE PAN.
04:14:45.803 --> 04:14:47.438
AND I WILL.
04:14:47.505 --> 04:14:53.277
NO WILK NOW.
04:14:53.344 --> 04:14:54.612
RE IN THAT IT WOULD.
04:14:54.679 --> 04:14:55.713
THE BILL HAVE SIX VOTE AGAINST
04:14:55.780 --> 04:14:59.250
IT IS OUT --
04:14:59.317 --> 04:15:01.753
WE WILL NOW TAKE UP.
04:15:01.819 --> 04:15:04.789
FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE AB TWENTY
04:15:04.856 --> 04:15:05.390
EIGHTY FOUR BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER
04:15:05.456 --> 04:15:13.297
CALLER [inaudible]
04:15:13.364 --> 04:15:16.367
NUMBER.
04:15:16.434 --> 04:15:18.469
NINE AB TWENTY EIGHTY FOUR
04:15:18.536 --> 04:15:19.704
HUNDRED OR SO.
04:15:19.771 --> 04:15:22.373
GOOD AFTERNOON OR EVENING
04:15:22.440 --> 04:15:24.175
PLEASED PICKING.
04:15:24.242 --> 04:15:26.711
BUT DON'T THINK WESTERN SENATORS --
04:15:26.778 --> 04:15:27.445
BILL.
04:15:27.512 --> 04:15:28.546
A TWENTY EIGHTY FOUR INQUIRES
04:15:28.613 --> 04:15:29.047
ENTITY PROVIDING A COURT
04:15:29.113 --> 04:15:30.348
REPORTING SERVICES TO REGISTER
04:15:30.415 --> 04:15:31.549
WITH A CORE BORDERS BORDERS
04:15:31.616 --> 04:15:32.917
COURT REPORTER AND PUTTING
04:15:32.984 --> 04:15:35.453
PROVIDERS AND UP --
04:15:35.520 --> 04:15:36.087
AS COURT REPORTING PROVIDERS IN
04:15:36.154 --> 04:15:38.656
ORDER REQUIRE.
04:15:38.723 --> 04:15:39.724
TAKE FAIR AND NEUTRAL COURT
04:15:39.791 --> 04:15:41.459
REPORTING.
04:15:41.526 --> 04:15:42.326
COR BOARDING'S INTEGRAL
04:15:42.393 --> 04:15:43.828
COMPONENT OF OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM
04:15:43.895 --> 04:15:44.829
IS THE ROLE OF THE COURT
04:15:44.896 --> 04:15:46.898
REPORTERS BOARD. TO PROTECT ITS
04:15:46.964 --> 04:15:48.733
INTEGRITY BY MAKING SURE ALL
04:15:48.800 --> 04:15:49.367
ENTITIES ARE PLAYING BY THE SAME
04:15:49.434 --> 04:15:50.635
RULES.
04:15:50.702 --> 04:15:51.636
THIS ENSURES CONSUMERS ARE
04:15:51.703 --> 04:15:52.837
PROTECTED FROM ACTIONS THAT GIVE
04:15:52.904 --> 04:15:54.405
ONE SIDE UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OR
04:15:54.472 --> 04:15:55.640
PRACTICE THAT COMPROMISE THE
04:15:55.707 --> 04:15:57.208
NEUTRAL CARE.
04:15:57.275 --> 04:15:57.709
OF THE COURT REPORTER'S
04:15:57.775 --> 04:15:58.943
TRANSCRIPT.
04:15:59.010 --> 04:16:00.044
THEY'VE BEEN REPORTED ABUSES
04:16:00.111 --> 04:16:01.713
MODESTY CORPORATIONS TO PROVIDE
04:16:01.779 --> 04:16:03.414
COURT REPORTING FOR DEPOSITIONS
04:16:03.481 --> 04:16:04.515
OF THE BOARD OF SUPPORTERS CAN
04:16:04.582 --> 04:16:06.751
ATTEST -- TO
04:16:06.818 --> 04:16:07.552
THESE ENTITIES USE A LICENSE
04:16:07.618 --> 04:16:08.653
COURT REPORTERS BUT IN THE
04:16:08.720 --> 04:16:10.088
COURSE OF THEIR BUSINESS HAVE
04:16:10.154 --> 04:16:10.955
DIRECT HANDLING OF THE
04:16:11.022 --> 04:16:12.056
TRANSCRIPT IN A MANNER.
04:16:12.123 --> 04:16:14.225
THAT BREAKS COURT REPORTING LAWS
04:16:14.292 --> 04:16:15.993
AND REGULATIONS. ONE OF THE MOST
04:16:16.060 --> 04:16:17.862
EGREGIOUS VIOLATIONS INVOLVES
04:16:17.929 --> 04:16:19.063
TRANSFER DELIVERY IT WAS
04:16:19.130 --> 04:16:20.298
AFFIRMED BY THE TRANSIT THEIR
04:16:20.364 --> 04:16:21.532
CLIENT BEFORE.
04:16:21.599 --> 04:16:23.234
OPPOSING COUNSEL GIVING US
04:16:23.301 --> 04:16:24.769
SIGNIFICANT LITIGATION VANISHED
04:16:24.836 --> 04:16:26.804
OUR CLIENT CONTRARY TO EXISTING
04:16:26.871 --> 04:16:27.271
LAW.
04:16:27.338 --> 04:16:29.340
THAT HOLDING ALL ENTITIES THE
04:16:29.407 --> 04:16:31.809
SAME LAWS REGULATIONS DECREASE
04:16:31.876 --> 04:16:32.410
INEQUITIES IN THEM WITHIN THE
04:16:32.477 --> 04:16:33.478
PROVISION.
04:16:33.544 --> 04:16:34.879
OF COURT REPORTING SERVICES IT
04:16:34.946 --> 04:16:36.080
CAN UNDERMINE THE INTEGRITY OF
04:16:36.147 --> 04:16:37.648
THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.
04:16:37.715 --> 04:16:39.217
AS A PERFORMER W. PUBLIC
04:16:39.283 --> 04:16:40.885
DEFENDER FOR ELEVEN YEARS CAN
04:16:40.952 --> 04:16:42.987
CERTAINLY ATTEST INTO A ATTEST
04:16:43.054 --> 04:16:45.790
TO THE VALUE OF THE INTEGRITY OF
04:16:45.857 --> 04:16:48.960
TRANCE SPOTS FOR THE COURT
04:16:49.026 --> 04:16:49.827
REPORTERS BOARD AND SUPPORTED BY
04:16:49.894 --> 04:16:50.795
THE CALIFORNIA.
04:16:50.862 --> 04:16:52.396
CORPORATE CESSATION AND THE
04:16:52.463 --> 04:16:54.298
DEPOSITION REPORTERS ASSOCIATION
04:16:54.365 --> 04:16:55.566
WITHIN REVISED PORTING
04:16:55.633 --> 04:16:57.101
TESTIMONIES HE BONVENTRE OF THE
04:16:57.168 --> 04:17:00.738
COURT WONDERS BOARDS OCCURRED
04:17:00.805 --> 04:17:02.373
GIVING HER ISSUE.
04:17:02.440 --> 04:17:03.741
THE CHAIR OF THE CORPORATE SPORT
04:17:03.808 --> 04:17:04.041
[inaudible]
04:17:04.108 --> 04:17:05.276
VERY GOOD.
04:17:05.343 --> 04:17:05.977
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ASSEMBLY OR
04:17:06.043 --> 04:17:07.512
GOOD AFTERNOON GOOD AFTERNOON
04:17:07.578 --> 04:17:09.247
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE YOU --
04:17:09.313 --> 04:17:10.648
TO THANK YOU SOMEONE MEMBER
04:17:10.715 --> 04:17:12.416
KALRA FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
04:17:12.483 --> 04:17:14.352
AND THANK YOU CHAIR HILL --
04:17:14.418 --> 04:17:16.053
AND COMMITMENT COMMITTEE MEMBERS
04:17:16.120 --> 04:17:17.889
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO
04:17:17.955 --> 04:17:20.224
YOU ABOUT AN UNCOMPLICATED WELL
04:17:20.291 --> 04:17:22.593
THAT ED FISCALLY SMART SOLUTION.
04:17:22.660 --> 04:17:24.595
AND MAYBE TWENTY EIGHTY FOUR
04:17:24.662 --> 04:17:25.897
FEDERAL ENSURE ALL CONSUMERS OF
04:17:25.963 --> 04:17:28.666
COURT REPORTING SERVICES IN
04:17:28.733 --> 04:17:30.868
CALIFORNIA ARE PROTECTED.
04:17:30.935 --> 04:17:32.036
WHETHER THEY SECURE THEIR
04:17:32.103 --> 04:17:33.704
SERVICES THROUGH A LICENSEE
04:17:33.771 --> 04:17:34.772
OWNED FIRM WORN OUT OF STATE
04:17:34.839 --> 04:17:36.974
CORPORATION.
04:17:37.041 --> 04:17:38.276
THE COURT REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT
04:17:38.342 --> 04:17:40.211
IS AN IMPORTANT DOCUMENT BEFORE
04:17:40.278 --> 04:17:42.079
DURING AND AFTER THE DEPOSITION
04:17:42.146 --> 04:17:44.015
OR TRIAL.
04:17:44.081 --> 04:17:45.349
CALIFORNIA LEGISLATORS
04:17:45.416 --> 04:17:47.451
PAINSTAKINGLY WROTE INTO NOT
04:17:47.518 --> 04:17:49.754
JUST ONE AREA OF THE CODE BUT
04:17:49.821 --> 04:17:51.222
NUMEROUS PLACES AND LAW.
04:17:51.289 --> 04:17:52.423
NEUTRALITY.
04:17:52.490 --> 04:17:54.358
CARE OF THE RECORD THE ACCURATE
04:17:54.425 --> 04:17:56.093
MAKING OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD
04:17:56.160 --> 04:17:57.228
AND PROPER FORMATTING OF THE
04:17:57.295 --> 04:17:59.330
TRANSCRIPT.
04:17:59.397 --> 04:18:01.432
THESE LAWS WERE CRAFTED TO
04:18:01.499 --> 04:18:04.168
INCLUDE DETAILS AND SPECIFICITY.
04:18:04.235 --> 04:18:05.970
ON EXACTLY HOW THE RECORD SHOULD
04:18:06.037 --> 04:18:08.539
BE HANDLED IN ORDER TO UPHOLD
04:18:08.606 --> 04:18:09.907
THE INTEGRITY OF COURT REPORTING
04:18:09.974 --> 04:18:12.176
AND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.
04:18:12.243 --> 04:18:14.078
WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU BECAUSE A
04:18:14.145 --> 04:18:16.080
SEE OUR PEACE MISSION TO SERVE
04:18:16.147 --> 04:18:17.148
AND PROTECT THE CALIFORNIA
04:18:17.215 --> 04:18:19.083
CONSUMERS HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY
04:18:19.150 --> 04:18:20.818
IMPACTED.
04:18:20.885 --> 04:18:22.720
BY GROWING DISREGARD FOR THE
04:18:22.787 --> 04:18:25.189
EXISTING LAWS BY OUT OF STATE
04:18:25.256 --> 04:18:26.891
NON LICENSEE DEPOSITION SERVICES
04:18:26.958 --> 04:18:28.492
COMPANIES.
04:18:28.559 --> 04:18:30.194
COLLECTIVELY REPRESENTED BY
04:18:30.261 --> 04:18:32.864
CALIFORNIA ADVOCATES INC.
04:18:32.930 --> 04:18:34.832
UNLIKE THE MAJORITY OF COURT
04:18:34.899 --> 04:18:36.901
REPORTING FORMS WHO ARE
04:18:36.968 --> 04:18:38.102
FOLLOWING COURT REPORTING LAWS
04:18:38.169 --> 04:18:40.571
AND ETHICS A COLLECTION OF OUT
04:18:40.638 --> 04:18:42.006
OF STATE FIRMS HAVE TRIED TO
04:18:42.073 --> 04:18:43.674
IGNORE THE LOS.
04:18:43.741 --> 04:18:45.643
AND ASSERT THAT THEY ARE SOMEHOW
04:18:45.710 --> 04:18:46.544
EXEMPT.
04:18:46.611 --> 04:18:49.146
FROM EXISTING LAWS WE CAN NOT
04:18:49.213 --> 04:18:50.314
MISTAKE THAT THERE IS A
04:18:50.381 --> 04:18:51.782
CONCERTED ATTEMPT.
04:18:51.849 --> 04:18:54.185
BY OUT OF STATE CORPORATIONS TO
04:18:54.252 --> 04:18:56.153
DO ALL THEY CAN TO REFER AB
04:18:56.220 --> 04:18:58.155
RETAIN AN UNFAIR COMPETITIVE
04:18:58.222 --> 04:18:59.457
ADVANTAGE AT THE EXPENSE OF
04:18:59.523 --> 04:19:01.025
CONSUMERS.
04:19:01.092 --> 04:19:02.126
WHICH THEY RECEIVED AND NO OTHER
04:19:02.193 --> 04:19:04.328
STATE.
04:19:04.395 --> 04:19:07.198
THE BOARD CONTINUES TO EXHAUST
04:19:07.265 --> 04:19:08.766
THE VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR
04:19:08.833 --> 04:19:10.268
COMPLIANCE TO CALIFORNIA'S
04:19:10.334 --> 04:19:12.637
EXISTING LAWS.
04:19:12.703 --> 04:19:14.605
THE BOARD FINDS AT THE MOST COST
04:19:14.672 --> 04:19:16.307
EFFECTIVE AND COMPREHENSIVE BEAR
04:19:16.374 --> 04:19:19.076
SOLUTION IS TO UPDATE.
04:19:19.143 --> 04:19:21.479
COURT REPORTING LAWS ESTABLISHED
04:19:21.545 --> 04:19:23.915
IN.
04:19:23.981 --> 04:19:24.382
NINETEEN FIFTY ONE AND
04:19:24.448 --> 04:19:25.383
PARTICULAR THE COURT PUTTING
04:19:25.449 --> 04:19:26.317
LAWS.
04:19:26.384 --> 04:19:27.919
IN THE NINETEEN FIFTIES WERE
04:19:27.985 --> 04:19:29.620
DESIGNED TO PROTECT CALIFORNIA
04:19:29.687 --> 04:19:32.456
CONSUMERS BUT DID NOT TAKE INTO
04:19:32.523 --> 04:19:35.026
CONSIDERATION THAT FIRMS COULD
04:19:35.092 --> 04:19:37.361
BE OWNED BY NON LICENSE
04:19:37.428 --> 04:19:38.596
INDIVIDUALS.
04:19:38.663 --> 04:19:40.665
IT WAS ALWAYS BELIEF THAT OWNERS
04:19:40.731 --> 04:19:42.700
WOULD BE LICENSEES.
04:19:42.767 --> 04:19:44.769
AND LOSS OF LICENSE WOULD SERVE
04:19:44.835 --> 04:19:47.071
AS A DETERRENT FROM CROSSING THE
04:19:47.138 --> 04:19:50.074
LINE OF VIOLATING LAWS
04:19:50.141 --> 04:19:53.244
APPLICABLE TO COURT.
04:19:53.311 --> 04:19:54.712
FORTY WELL OUT OF STATE.
04:19:54.779 --> 04:19:56.314
FOR DOING BUSINESS IN CALIFORNIA
04:19:56.380 --> 04:19:57.848
ARE NOT DETERRED.
04:19:57.915 --> 04:20:00.818
IT IS NOW TIME TO MAKE A SMALL.
04:20:00.885 --> 04:20:02.153
ONE WOULD SAY INNOCUOUS
04:20:02.219 --> 04:20:04.689
LEGISLATIVE CHANGE. TO MEET THIS
04:20:04.755 --> 04:20:07.325
EVOLVING INDUSTRY AND THIS WILL
04:20:07.391 --> 04:20:09.660
BE ACHIEVED IN AB TWENTY BEFORE.
04:20:09.727 --> 04:20:11.262
IT'S IMPORTANT NOTE THAT
04:20:11.329 --> 04:20:13.197
SOMEWHERE IN HISTORY.
04:20:13.264 --> 04:20:14.832
THE BOARD EVOLVE SLIGHTLY WITH
04:20:14.899 --> 04:20:16.233
CHANGING STANDARDS.
04:20:16.300 --> 04:20:18.669
AND WIDEN THE DOOR EVEN FURTHER
04:20:18.736 --> 04:20:21.672
TO PROMOTE INNOVATIVE BUSINESSES --
04:20:21.739 --> 04:20:23.507
THINK YOU HAVE.
04:20:23.574 --> 04:20:24.709
A LITTLE HOT OUT THERE IN THE
04:20:24.775 --> 04:20:26.577
SACRAMENTO WHETHER THROUGH WARM
04:20:26.644 --> 04:20:28.980
AND IF I COULD HAVE GOT IT TOO
04:20:29.046 --> 04:20:29.947
TO TIGHTEN AND YET WE'VE HAD O
04:20:30.014 --> 04:20:30.848
AND TO HOLD.
04:20:30.915 --> 04:20:32.383
WITNESSES TO TWO MINUTES I FOR
04:20:32.450 --> 04:20:33.184
FAILED TO MENTION THAT EARLY
04:20:33.250 --> 04:20:35.286
SORRY I DID EARLIER WHEN WE
04:20:35.353 --> 04:20:37.154
STARTED TWO MINUTES OF FOR
04:20:37.221 --> 04:20:39.590
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION.
04:20:39.657 --> 04:20:40.157
TO THE MOVING ALONG.
04:20:40.224 --> 04:20:42.927
THROUGH IT IF I COULD THEN JUST
04:20:42.994 --> 04:20:48.132
QUICKLY SAY. FOR YOU THEIR SPEND --
04:20:48.199 --> 04:20:49.200
COMPLAINTS RECEIVE ABOUT
04:20:49.266 --> 04:20:51.936
TRANSPARENT MISCONDUCT ALLOWING
04:20:52.003 --> 04:20:53.304
ONE SIDE TO HAVE ACCESS TO
04:20:53.371 --> 04:20:55.506
TRANSCRIPTS BEFORE THE OTHER AND
04:20:55.573 --> 04:20:57.675
PREPARING FOR LITIGATION --
04:20:57.742 --> 04:21:00.177
WHICH ISN'T ILLEGAL ADVANTAGE
04:21:00.244 --> 04:21:01.746
NOT A BUSINESS AND MANAGEMENT
04:21:01.812 --> 04:21:03.781
ILLEGAL ADVANTAGE THAT'S BEEN
04:21:03.848 --> 04:21:05.649
CODIFIED IN THE CIVIL CODE OF
04:21:05.716 --> 04:21:07.151
CIVIL PROCEDURE --
04:21:07.218 --> 04:21:08.853
WHICH ENSURES GOODS AND SERVICES
04:21:08.919 --> 04:21:11.555
ARE HANDLED FAIRLY AND AVAILABLE
04:21:11.622 --> 04:21:13.057
TO ALL SITES AT THE SAME TIME.
04:21:13.124 --> 04:21:13.791
THERE BEEN GIFT GIVING
04:21:13.858 --> 04:21:16.193
VIOLATIONS THERE HAS BEEN
04:21:16.260 --> 04:21:18.229
REFORMATTING TO INCREASE THE
04:21:18.295 --> 04:21:20.297
NUMBER OF PAGES AND THAT'S THE
04:21:20.364 --> 04:21:22.266
AMOUNT OF LITIGATION --
04:21:22.333 --> 04:21:24.735
THAT ONE IS BUILT --
04:21:24.802 --> 04:21:25.736
FOR IF I MOVE ALONG.
04:21:25.803 --> 04:21:27.605
I WOULD.
04:21:27.671 --> 04:21:30.775
PROBABLY SAY THAT.
04:21:30.841 --> 04:21:32.143
WE HAVE MET WITH THEM STATE
04:21:32.209 --> 04:21:34.879
FIRMS WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION.
04:21:34.945 --> 04:21:36.013
AND HAD VERY PRODUCTIVE
04:21:36.080 --> 04:21:37.648
CONVERSATIONS --
04:21:37.715 --> 04:21:38.849
WHERE THE MADE SUBORDINATE A
04:21:38.916 --> 04:21:41.719
CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT WE WELCOME
04:21:41.786 --> 04:21:43.387
COURT REPORTING FORMS FROM IN
04:21:43.454 --> 04:21:45.022
STATE OR OUT OF STATE AS LONG AS
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IT FOLLOW THE LAW?
04:21:46.891 --> 04:21:48.125
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PLEASE IT'S
04:21:48.192 --> 04:21:48.993
ACTUALLY THANK YOU VERY HOW MUCH
04:21:49.060 --> 04:21:52.430
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
04:21:52.496 --> 04:21:53.464
I'M YOU FUND FEDERAL FISCAL
04:21:53.531 --> 04:21:54.632
COURT REPORTERS BOARD STAFF JUST
04:21:54.698 --> 04:21:55.733
HERE TO ANSWER LAWFUL THANK YOU
04:21:55.800 --> 04:21:57.068
VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE YOUR
04:21:57.134 --> 04:21:58.536
PRESENCE HERE TODAY JIM GROSS
04:21:58.602 --> 04:21:59.670
ABOUT THE DEPOSITION REPORTERS
04:21:59.737 --> 04:22:02.306
ASSOCIATION IN STRONG SUPPORT
04:22:02.373 --> 04:22:02.873
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHICH TO
04:22:02.940 --> 04:22:04.608
GROW.
04:22:04.675 --> 04:22:05.443
ANNOUNCER HERNANDEZ ON HAVE THE
04:22:05.509 --> 04:22:06.377
CALIFORNIA COURT REPORTERS
04:22:06.444 --> 04:22:08.479
ASSOCIATION STRONG SUPPORT THANK
04:22:08.546 --> 04:22:09.013
YOU TO HERNANDEZ OTHERS IN
04:22:09.080 --> 04:22:09.814
SUPPORT.
04:22:09.880 --> 04:22:11.649
SEEN IT NO ONE OF THOSE IN
04:22:11.715 --> 04:22:13.017
OPPOSITION PLEASE COME FORWARD
04:22:13.084 --> 04:22:22.526
[inaudible] TO VOTE.
04:22:22.593 --> 04:22:24.128
WELCOME THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
04:22:24.195 --> 04:22:25.596
AND MEMBERS MICHAEL LOW ON
04:22:25.663 --> 04:22:26.864
BEHALF OF THE COALITION OF
04:22:26.931 --> 04:22:28.532
DEPOSITION SERVICES FIRMS
04:22:28.599 --> 04:22:30.167
INCLUDING VARITEK'S U. S. LEGAL
04:22:30.234 --> 04:22:31.702
IN ESQUIRE.
04:22:31.769 --> 04:22:33.637
THIS IS AN IDENTICAL BILL TO A
04:22:33.704 --> 04:22:35.106
BILL THAT WAS VETOED A IN
04:22:35.172 --> 04:22:36.907
SEPTEMBER BY GOVERNOR BROWN
04:22:36.974 --> 04:22:38.442
VIRTUALLY NO WORK HAS CHANGED AT
04:22:38.509 --> 04:22:39.543
ALL.
04:22:39.610 --> 04:22:41.278
THE GOVERNOR EXPLAINED THAT
04:22:41.345 --> 04:22:43.180
PENDING LITIGATION THAT IMPACTS
04:22:43.247 --> 04:22:45.249
THE ISSUES RAISED BY THE BILL
04:22:45.316 --> 04:22:46.817
AND HE WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT
04:22:46.884 --> 04:22:48.319
THOSE ISSUES RESOLVED IN THE
04:22:48.385 --> 04:22:50.588
LITIGATION BEFORE PROCEEDING.
04:22:50.654 --> 04:22:53.357
IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT A A
04:22:53.424 --> 04:22:55.493
BILL IS NECESSARY HOWEVER THAT
04:22:55.559 --> 04:22:57.795
LITIGATION COMES OUT BUT IT'S
04:22:57.862 --> 04:22:58.996
MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.
04:22:59.063 --> 04:23:01.732
IN FACT DEPENDING ON HOW THE
04:23:01.799 --> 04:23:02.766
LITIGATION COMES OUT.
04:23:02.833 --> 04:23:04.735
ARE.
04:23:04.802 --> 04:23:06.570
FIRMS COULD BE INELIGIBLE TO DO
04:23:06.637 --> 04:23:08.772
WHAT THEY DO IN CALIFORNIA AND
04:23:08.839 --> 04:23:10.508
THIS BILL DOESN'T FIX IT.
04:23:10.574 --> 04:23:12.543
SO THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM WITH
04:23:12.610 --> 04:23:13.944
THE LITIGATION PENDING IN THE
04:23:14.011 --> 04:23:16.046
APPELLATE COURT.
04:23:16.113 --> 04:23:17.848
BEYOND THAT THAT JUST FOR A
04:23:17.915 --> 04:23:18.916
MOMENT -- IT
04:23:18.983 --> 04:23:19.984
I'VE REPRESENTED THE CIVIL
04:23:20.050 --> 04:23:22.386
DEFENSE BAR FOR TWENTY YEARS IN
04:23:22.453 --> 04:23:23.787
CALIFORNIA IN.
04:23:23.854 --> 04:23:24.388
NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT AND NOT
04:23:24.455 --> 04:23:26.390
ONCE HAS A LAWYER AND CIVIL
04:23:26.457 --> 04:23:28.492
DEFENSE LAWYER EVER SUGGESTED TO
04:23:28.559 --> 04:23:29.260
ME.
04:23:29.326 --> 04:23:30.227
THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM IN COURT
04:23:30.294 --> 04:23:31.495
REPORTING.
04:23:31.562 --> 04:23:32.463
AS A MATTER FACT THOSE ARE THE
04:23:32.530 --> 04:23:34.365
CUSTOMERS.
04:23:34.431 --> 04:23:37.134
OF DEPOSITION SERVICES FIRMS
04:23:37.201 --> 04:23:38.903
THEY ORDERED THE DEPOSITIONS AND
04:23:38.969 --> 04:23:40.604
THEY PAY FOR THEM AND I'VE NEVER
04:23:40.671 --> 04:23:42.740
HEARD THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.
04:23:42.806 --> 04:23:45.142
NOW MISTER KALRA WAS KIND ENOUGH
04:23:45.209 --> 04:23:47.077
TO PUT THE BILL OVER FOR A WEEK
04:23:47.144 --> 04:23:47.945
TO FACILITATE A DISCUSSION
04:23:48.012 --> 04:23:50.047
BETWEEN US.
04:23:50.114 --> 04:23:53.717
AND THE BOARD AND MIS HEARD THAT.
04:23:53.784 --> 04:23:55.786
ACCURATELY DESCRIBED THE MEETING.
04:23:55.853 --> 04:23:56.854
BUT HERE'S WHAT I ASKED AT THE
04:23:56.921 --> 04:23:58.989
MEETING.
04:23:59.056 --> 04:24:00.424
HOW MANY COMPLAINTS DO YOU GET
04:24:00.491 --> 04:24:01.926
AND WHAT ARE THE NATURE OF THOSE
04:24:01.992 --> 04:24:03.294
COMPLAINTS BECAUSE FOR SOME
04:24:03.360 --> 04:24:04.828
REASON FOR TWENTY YEARS I'VE
04:24:04.895 --> 04:24:06.630
NEVER HEARD OF THE PROBLEM?
04:24:06.697 --> 04:24:07.998
AND I WAS TOLD THAT THAT
04:24:08.065 --> 04:24:10.834
INFORMATION IS CONFIDENTIAL.
04:24:10.901 --> 04:24:12.436
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MY
04:24:12.503 --> 04:24:14.371
TIME IN SACRAMENTO WHEN I'VE
04:24:14.438 --> 04:24:16.173
BEEN TOLD THAT THE NUMBER OR
04:24:16.240 --> 04:24:17.274
NATURE OF COMPLAINTS IS
04:24:17.341 --> 04:24:19.410
CONFIDENTIAL.
04:24:19.476 --> 04:24:20.744
BUT IT WASN'T ASKING TO SEE THE
04:24:20.811 --> 04:24:22.413
COMPLAINTS ARE WHO WROTE THEM OR
04:24:22.479 --> 04:24:24.515
FIND OUT ANY DETAILS JUST TELL
04:24:24.582 --> 04:24:25.516
ME HOW OFTEN IT HAPPENS IS IT
04:24:25.583 --> 04:24:25.816
[inaudible]
04:24:25.883 --> 04:24:29.420
TWICE. TWENTY A TWO HUNDRED WHAT
04:24:29.486 --> 04:24:31.055
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND I
04:24:31.121 --> 04:24:32.389
WAS TOLD THAT THAT INFORMATION
04:24:32.456 --> 04:24:34.825
IS CONFIDENTIAL SO IT SUGGESTS
04:24:34.892 --> 04:24:36.060
TO US THAT MAYBE THERE AREN'T
04:24:36.126 --> 04:24:37.461
VERY MANY COMPLAINTS.
04:24:37.528 --> 04:24:39.129
WHEN YOU ADD THE FACT THAT I
04:24:39.196 --> 04:24:40.531
HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A PROBLEM
04:24:40.598 --> 04:24:42.066
FROM A LAWYER?
04:24:42.132 --> 04:24:43.601
SO UNTIL WE SEE THE EVIDENCE OF
04:24:43.667 --> 04:24:45.336
A PROBLEM.
04:24:45.402 --> 04:24:46.870
UNTIL WE SEE A BILL THAT
04:24:46.937 --> 04:24:48.639
ACCURATELY AND SUFFICIENTLY
04:24:48.706 --> 04:24:50.407
ADDRESSES THAT PENDING COURT
04:24:50.474 --> 04:24:51.809
CASE WHICH CAUSED THE VETO THE
04:24:51.875 --> 04:24:53.744
BILL IN SEPTEMBER.
04:24:53.811 --> 04:24:55.112
WE WOULD ASK THAT THE BILL BE
04:24:55.179 --> 04:24:57.414
HELD TILL THAT COURT CASE IS
04:24:57.481 --> 04:24:59.917
RESOLVED THAT COURT CASE MATTERS
04:24:59.984 --> 04:25:01.318
TO THIS BILL AND IT MATTERS TO
04:25:01.385 --> 04:25:03.220
OUR COMPANIES.
04:25:03.287 --> 04:25:04.288
AND DEPENDING ON HOW IT COMES
04:25:04.355 --> 04:25:06.056
OUT WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE
04:25:06.123 --> 04:25:08.626
BOARD WITH YOU MISTER KALRA AND
04:25:08.692 --> 04:25:10.261
OTHERS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
04:25:10.327 --> 04:25:12.162
SOLVE THE VERY FUNDAMENTAL
04:25:12.229 --> 04:25:13.330
QUESTION.
04:25:13.397 --> 04:25:15.065
ABOUT WHETHER OUR COMPANIES ARE
04:25:15.132 --> 04:25:17.201
IN FACT ENGAGED IN THE COURT
04:25:17.268 --> 04:25:18.502
REPORTING BUSINESS.
04:25:18.569 --> 04:25:20.404
AS DEFINED IN THE BNP CODE OR
04:25:20.471 --> 04:25:23.240
NOT WE THINK NOT.
04:25:23.307 --> 04:25:24.742
BUT IF THE COURT DOES THE OTHER
04:25:24.808 --> 04:25:26.710
WAY THERE HAS TO BE LEGISLATION
04:25:26.777 --> 04:25:28.145
TO ADDRESS IT AND THIS BILL
04:25:28.212 --> 04:25:31.148
DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM. FOR
04:25:31.215 --> 04:25:33.250
THAT WE ASK FOR NOVA A HUGE TO
04:25:33.317 --> 04:25:35.286
LOAD OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
04:25:35.352 --> 04:25:37.488
YOU KNOW ONE BRING IT BACK TO
04:25:37.554 --> 04:25:39.590
THE WAY WOULD YOU LIKE TO
04:25:39.657 --> 04:25:41.258
RESPOND TO THAT OF MR THOUGH
04:25:41.325 --> 04:25:42.660
WHAT YEAH A COUPLE THINGS FIRST
04:25:42.726 --> 04:25:44.862
OF ALL YES THE DAYS FAME BILL --
04:25:44.928 --> 04:25:46.563
THAT THIS COMMITTEE GRAVELY
04:25:46.630 --> 04:25:48.399
VOTED THROUGH LAST YEAR.
04:25:48.465 --> 04:25:50.301
EYES BEING BUT AGAIN OTHER WAS A
04:25:50.367 --> 04:25:52.636
VETO UP GROUP AT THE END OF THE
04:25:52.703 --> 04:25:54.471
OF THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS LAST
04:25:54.538 --> 04:25:54.972
YEAR.
04:25:55.039 --> 04:25:57.341
THAT THIS WAS A MARK COPIED BY
04:25:57.408 --> 04:26:00.144
SURPRISE WELL YOU HAVE THE
04:26:00.210 --> 04:26:01.645
OPPORTUNITY.
04:26:01.712 --> 04:26:02.646
TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
04:26:02.713 --> 04:26:04.181
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THE REALITY IS
04:26:04.248 --> 04:26:05.249
THAT MATTER WHAT THE OUTCOME OF
04:26:05.316 --> 04:26:07.318
THE LITIGATION IS.
04:26:07.384 --> 04:26:08.786
OF THIS LEGISLATION IS STILL
04:26:08.852 --> 04:26:10.888
NEEDED THAT AND SO OF NOT NOT
04:26:10.954 --> 04:26:12.356
HAVING THE OPTION TO HAVE THOSE
04:26:12.423 --> 04:26:13.657
CONVERSATIONS.
04:26:13.724 --> 04:26:14.391
PRIOR --
04:26:14.458 --> 04:26:17.227
INTO THE VETO --
04:26:17.294 --> 04:26:18.329
AGAIN REQUIRED US TO BRING THE
04:26:18.395 --> 04:26:19.930
BILL BACK AGAIN AND I WOULD JUST
04:26:19.997 --> 04:26:21.131
SAY UP.
04:26:21.198 --> 04:26:24.201
IN TERMS OF WHY THE BILL AS YOU
04:26:24.268 --> 04:26:25.703
LOOK OTHER STATES TREAT.
04:26:25.769 --> 04:26:27.371
OUR COMPANY IS IN A IN A LIKE
04:26:27.438 --> 04:26:28.739
MANNER AND THE REALITY AND THE
04:26:28.806 --> 04:26:29.640
REASON WHY IS.
04:26:29.707 --> 04:26:31.175
JUST FAIRNESS AND EQUITY IN
04:26:31.241 --> 04:26:33.310
TREATING EVERYONE THE SAME AND
04:26:33.377 --> 04:26:35.212
TREATING THE TRANSCRIPTS MOST
04:26:35.279 --> 04:26:37.548
SIGNIFICANTLY THE SAME IS SO
04:26:37.614 --> 04:26:38.649
CRITICAL.
04:26:38.716 --> 04:26:40.351
AND WHETHER YOU HAVE IT UP
04:26:40.417 --> 04:26:42.086
AGREEMENT AS TO WHAT THE SCOPE
04:26:42.152 --> 04:26:44.321
OF THE PROBLEM OR NOT.
04:26:44.388 --> 04:26:45.089
EVERYONE SHOULD BE PLAYED WITH A
04:26:45.155 --> 04:26:45.923
LOT OF US WHO PLAN TO THE SAME
04:26:45.989 --> 04:26:47.391
RULES AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT
04:26:47.458 --> 04:26:49.526
THIS IS ABOUT AND IT'S IS HAVING
04:26:49.593 --> 04:26:50.928
THE SAME RULES IF THERE'S NOT A
04:26:50.994 --> 04:26:51.428
GREAT.
04:26:51.495 --> 04:26:52.863
ISSUE A GREAT PROBLEM THAT WAS
04:26:52.930 --> 04:26:54.398
THE PROBABLY BY THE SAME RULES
04:26:54.465 --> 04:26:56.333
IT THERE IS DEMONSTRATE ISSUE
04:26:56.400 --> 04:26:57.134
THAN AND WATCH PLAY THE SAME
04:26:57.201 --> 04:26:57.968
RULES.
04:26:58.035 --> 04:26:59.403
AND SO REALLY NOW THAT WE GOT
04:26:59.470 --> 04:27:00.838
THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
04:27:00.904 --> 04:27:02.239
SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS WITH
04:27:02.306 --> 04:27:03.374
THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HOW WE
04:27:03.440 --> 04:27:06.377
FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS
04:27:06.443 --> 04:27:07.010
BILL GOING FOR WILL BE SIGNED BY
04:27:07.077 --> 04:27:08.412
THE GOVERNOR.
04:27:08.479 --> 04:27:09.513
IN ITS MUNCHKIN IS WELL THANK.
04:27:09.580 --> 04:27:10.614
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
04:27:10.681 --> 04:27:10.914
[inaudible]
04:27:10.981 --> 04:27:13.217
COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
04:27:13.283 --> 04:27:14.385
SEEING NONE NO WOULD YOU LIKE TO
04:27:14.451 --> 04:27:15.953
CLOSE UP RESPECTFULLY ASK
04:27:16.019 --> 04:27:17.688
RELIABLE THANK YOU MISTER THANK
04:27:17.755 --> 04:27:23.594
YOU VERY MUCH IS OUR MOTION.
04:27:23.660 --> 04:27:25.596
THANK YOU WE HAVE A MOTION FROM --
04:27:25.662 --> 04:27:26.897
SENATOR PAN THANK YOU VERY MUCH
04:27:26.964 --> 04:27:28.332
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
04:27:28.399 --> 04:27:30.100
MISSION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
04:27:30.167 --> 04:27:31.435
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HEALTH
04:27:31.502 --> 04:27:33.270
I HILL AYE FULLER.
04:27:33.337 --> 04:27:35.105
FULLER NOW ALLEN.
04:27:35.172 --> 04:27:37.074
ALAN AYE DODD.
04:27:37.141 --> 04:27:38.842
NOT BY GALGIANI.
04:27:38.909 --> 04:27:40.611
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
04:27:40.677 --> 04:27:42.279
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ.
04:27:42.346 --> 04:27:44.047
HERNANDEZ I PAN.
04:27:44.114 --> 04:27:48.519
AND I WILL NEVER BROKE NOW
04:27:48.585 --> 04:27:52.055
[inaudible] SEVEN ZERO DIDN'T
04:27:52.122 --> 04:27:53.290
YOU I'M SORRY SEVENTY TWO THE
04:27:53.357 --> 04:27:55.325
BILL IS OUT.
04:27:55.392 --> 04:28:08.338
THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO BE NICE.
04:28:08.405 --> 04:28:10.674
TO MMHM SHE SAID THE OTHER
04:28:10.741 --> 04:28:10.974
[inaudible]
04:28:11.041 --> 04:28:12.910
WELCOME.
04:28:12.976 --> 04:28:14.077
I THINK SCHEDULED TO MY LIST I
04:28:14.144 --> 04:28:15.145
APOLOGIZE FOR THAT I LOOK UP
04:28:15.212 --> 04:28:16.780
BEFORE THAT.
04:28:16.847 --> 04:28:17.514
SO MISTER.
04:28:17.581 --> 04:28:18.782
O'DONNELL OVER THERE TO KNOW
04:28:18.849 --> 04:28:20.717
WHO'S COMING FIRST OF WELCOME
04:28:20.784 --> 04:28:22.619
AGAIN I APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR YOUR
04:28:22.686 --> 04:28:24.288
PATIENCE IN.
04:28:24.354 --> 04:28:25.956
YOUR NEED FOR PATIENTS EARLIER
04:28:26.023 --> 04:28:31.628
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHTEEN AB.
04:28:31.695 --> 04:28:32.196
TWENTY THREE NINETY TWO WITH
04:28:32.262 --> 04:28:33.363
BILL PREPPY.
04:28:33.430 --> 04:28:33.964
APPRECIATE REFER EVERY DAY WE
04:28:34.031 --> 04:28:34.264
HAVE SOME.
04:28:34.331 --> 04:28:36.233
MAKE IT SIMPLE.
04:28:36.300 --> 04:28:38.035
AB TWENTY THREE NINE TWO WOULD
04:28:38.101 --> 04:28:39.336
MAKE A NUMBER CLARIFICATIONS AND
04:28:39.403 --> 04:28:40.270
CHANGES THE RIPPLE IN
04:28:40.337 --> 04:28:41.805
CALIFORNIA'S TOWING AND ENERGY
04:28:41.872 --> 04:28:43.173
VEHICLE LAW TO REDUCE ABUSIVE
04:28:43.240 --> 04:28:44.875
PRACTICES AND OF INFLATING
04:28:44.942 --> 04:28:46.677
STORAGE FEES THANK YOU.
04:28:46.743 --> 04:28:48.111
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH --
04:28:48.178 --> 04:28:49.713
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
04:28:49.780 --> 04:28:50.848
OF BROOKS ALISON HALF OF THE
04:28:50.914 --> 04:28:52.549
CALIFORNIA TOW TRUCK ASSOCIATION
04:28:52.616 --> 04:28:53.684
HERE IN SUPPORT WE'RE GOOD THANK
04:28:53.750 --> 04:28:55.085
YOU MISTER ELLISON OTHERS IN
04:28:55.152 --> 04:28:55.986
SUPPORT.
04:28:56.053 --> 04:28:57.120
COMPANY BUT AMERICAN INSURANCE
04:28:57.187 --> 04:28:58.522
ASSOCIATION ONE OF THE SPONSORS
04:28:58.589 --> 04:28:59.823
WE WORK CLOSELY WITH ALL
04:28:59.890 --> 04:29:01.758
STAKEHOLDERS TRYING TO TIGHTEN A
04:29:01.825 --> 04:29:03.060
LOT PROTECT CONSUMERS.
04:29:03.126 --> 04:29:06.129
AND THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIELD
04:29:06.196 --> 04:29:09.566
SO ISSUES.
04:29:09.633 --> 04:29:10.467
IF YOU THINK IT WAS BETTER THAN
04:29:10.534 --> 04:29:11.668
THANK YOU VERY MUCH RELIGION
04:29:11.735 --> 04:29:15.272
PLEASE OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
04:29:15.339 --> 04:29:17.274
MISTER CHAIR MICRO WITH WESTERN
04:29:17.341 --> 04:29:18.008
CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY IN
04:29:18.075 --> 04:29:20.410
SUPPORT YOU.
04:29:20.477 --> 04:29:21.778
CHAIRMAN OTHER MEMBERS MICHAEL
04:29:21.845 --> 04:29:23.013
GETTING PERSONAL INSURANCE
04:29:23.080 --> 04:29:24.147
FEDERATION ALSO HERE IN SUPPORT
04:29:24.214 --> 04:29:28.719
THANK YOU.
04:29:28.785 --> 04:29:30.320
JERRY MEMBERS NAMELY PETRONE.
04:29:30.387 --> 04:29:31.922
I WITH ME Q. CAPTAIN ASSOCIATES
04:29:31.989 --> 04:29:33.023
ON BEHALF OF THE PACIFIC
04:29:33.090 --> 04:29:34.691
ASSOCIATION OF DOMESTIC
04:29:34.758 --> 04:29:36.026
INSURANCE COMPANY TRANSPLANT
04:29:36.093 --> 04:29:38.228
PRETTY THANK YOU.
04:29:38.295 --> 04:29:39.162
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS CHECK OF
04:29:39.229 --> 04:29:40.197
MOSS ABOUT PROPERTY CASH
04:29:40.264 --> 04:29:40.631
TEACHERS AND SUPPORT
04:29:40.697 --> 04:29:40.931
[inaudible]
04:29:40.998 --> 04:29:42.866
THANK YOU.
04:29:42.933 --> 04:29:44.434
GOOD AFTERNOON KIM STONE STONE
04:29:44.501 --> 04:29:46.036
ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF ALL STATE
04:29:46.103 --> 04:29:50.140
INSURANCE IN SUPPORT HE WAS DOWN.
04:29:50.207 --> 04:29:52.109
OF WEST SAM'S WITH UNITED WAYS
04:29:52.175 --> 04:29:52.843
OF CALIFORNIA HERE IN STRONG
04:29:52.910 --> 04:29:55.579
SUPPORT IT THANK YOU.
04:29:55.646 --> 04:29:56.480
LARRY ERNST YOUNG BEHALF THE
04:29:56.547 --> 04:29:57.114
STATE PART INSURANCE IN SUPPORT
04:29:57.180 --> 04:29:57.414
[inaudible]
04:29:57.481 --> 04:29:58.882
YOU.
04:29:58.949 --> 04:30:00.651
AND MY CHILD ON BEHALF OF A SEAL
04:30:00.717 --> 04:30:01.785
YOUR CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT THANK
04:30:01.852 --> 04:30:04.254
YOU VERY MUCH.
04:30:04.321 --> 04:30:05.589
GERMAN MEMBERS POLLED LEAD
04:30:05.656 --> 04:30:06.623
FILLED THE A BEHALF TRAVELERS IN
04:30:06.690 --> 04:30:07.991
SUPPORT WONDERFUL THANK YOU
04:30:08.058 --> 04:30:09.259
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
04:30:09.326 --> 04:30:10.994
SEEING NONE IS THERE ANYONE HERE
04:30:11.061 --> 04:30:11.528
IN OPPOSITION PLEASE COME
04:30:11.595 --> 04:30:12.930
FORWARD.
04:30:12.996 --> 04:30:14.131
SEEING NO ONE BRINGING IT BACK
04:30:14.197 --> 04:30:15.465
TO THE COMMITTEE AND YOU THERE
04:30:15.532 --> 04:30:17.200
ARE SOME TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS IN.
04:30:17.267 --> 04:30:18.468
ARE YOU ACCEPTING THE UNLESS YOU
04:30:18.535 --> 04:30:19.736
ARE VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY
04:30:19.803 --> 04:30:21.338
MUCH ASSEMBLY EMBER --
04:30:21.405 --> 04:30:23.340
ANY CONVERSATIONS RUSSIAN NOW WE
04:30:23.407 --> 04:30:23.941
DO HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR
04:30:24.007 --> 04:30:25.175
WILK --
04:30:25.242 --> 04:30:26.910
PROJECTS CLOSE.
04:30:26.977 --> 04:30:28.579
NO OPPOSITION DE CALIFORNIA
04:30:28.645 --> 04:30:29.947
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION
04:30:30.013 --> 04:30:31.648
PREVIOUSLY OPPOSED A WE WORKED
04:30:31.715 --> 04:30:33.183
WITH THEM AND THEY'RE NO LONGER
04:30:33.250 --> 04:30:33.817
IN OPPOSITION I RESPECTFULLY ASK
04:30:33.884 --> 04:30:34.885
FOR MY VOTE.
04:30:34.952 --> 04:30:36.320
BEFORE THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHICH
04:30:36.386 --> 04:30:37.554
WILL THE ROLE.
04:30:37.621 --> 04:30:39.623
MISSION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
04:30:39.690 --> 04:30:40.924
HIS SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
04:30:40.991 --> 04:30:42.459
HEALTH I KNOW I FULLER.
04:30:42.526 --> 04:30:43.627
FULLER AYE ALLEN.
04:30:43.694 --> 04:30:45.862
ALLEN I DONT.
04:30:45.929 --> 04:30:47.931
AND I GALGIANI GALGIANI AYE
04:30:47.998 --> 04:30:49.099
GLAZER.
04:30:49.166 --> 04:30:50.601
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ.
04:30:50.667 --> 04:30:52.269
HERNANDEZ AYE PAN.
04:30:52.336 --> 04:30:55.806
AND I WILL AYE LITTLE GUY. NINE
04:30:55.872 --> 04:30:56.440
ZERO THE VILLAGE OUT
04:30:56.506 --> 04:30:59.376
CONGRATULATIONS THANK YOU
04:30:59.443 --> 04:30:59.676
[inaudible]
04:30:59.743 --> 04:31:04.281
ASSEMBLYMEMBER CARRILLO
04:31:04.348 --> 04:31:04.581
[inaudible]
04:31:04.648 --> 04:31:09.319
GOOD AFTERNOON.
04:31:09.386 --> 04:31:14.157
REMOVED ITEM NUMBER SEVENTEEN AB.
04:31:14.224 --> 04:31:14.758
TWENTY THREE SEVENTY ONE ITEM
04:31:14.825 --> 04:31:17.561
SEVENTEEN GOOD AFTERNOON.
04:31:17.628 --> 04:31:19.262
I DON'T EVER.
04:31:19.329 --> 04:31:21.031
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIR AND
04:31:21.098 --> 04:31:22.899
COMMITTEE MEMBERS [inaudible]
04:31:22.966 --> 04:31:24.534
LONG DAY.
04:31:24.601 --> 04:31:27.337
I'M HERE TO PRESENT AB TWENTY
04:31:27.404 --> 04:31:27.938
THREE SEVENTY ONE A BILL THAT
04:31:28.005 --> 04:31:29.640
TAKES COMMON SENSE STEPS. TO
04:31:29.706 --> 04:31:31.074
SAVE WATER BY WORKING TO IMPROVE
04:31:31.141 --> 04:31:32.509
LANDSCAPE DESIGN IRRIGATION
04:31:32.576 --> 04:31:33.477
SYSTEMS AND URBAN WATER USE
04:31:33.543 --> 04:31:35.746
PRACTICE.
04:31:35.812 --> 04:31:36.313
I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY
04:31:36.380 --> 04:31:37.247
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEES
04:31:37.314 --> 04:31:38.782
AMENDMENTS MENTIONED AND THE
04:31:38.849 --> 04:31:39.750
ANALYSIS.
04:31:39.816 --> 04:31:40.884
AND THANKING THEM FOR WORKING
04:31:40.951 --> 04:31:42.619
WITH MY STAFF AND THE SPONSORS
04:31:42.686 --> 04:31:43.987
TO ENHANCE THIS BILL.
04:31:44.054 --> 04:31:45.856
WHEN I'M ALSO RESPECT NO THANK
04:31:45.922 --> 04:31:47.257
YOU PREVIEW?
04:31:47.324 --> 04:31:48.492
I'M ALSO COMMITTED TO ADJUSTING
04:31:48.558 --> 04:31:49.626
THE WORKING GROUP ON MY BILL TO
04:31:49.693 --> 04:31:51.194
BE CONVENED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
04:31:51.261 --> 04:31:52.162
WATER RESOURCES AND I WILL
04:31:52.229 --> 04:31:53.697
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
04:31:53.764 --> 04:31:55.165
AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY. TO
04:31:55.232 --> 04:31:56.667
ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS BY REMOVING
04:31:56.733 --> 04:31:58.035
THE PLANT LABELING REQUIREMENT
04:31:58.101 --> 04:31:59.302
OF THIS BILL.
04:31:59.369 --> 04:32:00.904
REDUCING WATER USE ON URBAN
04:32:00.971 --> 04:32:02.873
LANDSCAPE STATEWIDE HAS THE
04:32:02.939 --> 04:32:04.508
POTENTIAL TO SAVE THE EQUIVALENT
04:32:04.574 --> 04:32:06.276
OF ABOUT FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT
04:32:06.343 --> 04:32:07.210
OF WATER.
04:32:07.277 --> 04:32:08.979
USED BY THE ENTIRE CITY OF LOS
04:32:09.046 --> 04:32:10.313
ANGELES IN ONE YEAR.
04:32:10.380 --> 04:32:11.882
WATER EFFICIENT LANDSCAPES CAN
04:32:11.948 --> 04:32:13.717
ALSO RESULT IN LESS INSTABILITY
04:32:13.784 --> 04:32:15.318
IN URBAN WATER DEMAND AND
04:32:15.385 --> 04:32:16.920
IMPROVE THE FINANCIAL HEALTH AND
04:32:16.987 --> 04:32:18.388
SAVINGS OF OUR WATER UTILITIES
04:32:18.455 --> 04:32:20.023
AND CUSTOMERS.
04:32:20.090 --> 04:32:21.491
AB TWENTY THREE SEVENTY ONE
04:32:21.558 --> 04:32:22.559
ADVANCES SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS
04:32:22.626 --> 04:32:23.560
BASED ON THE REPORT OF AN
04:32:23.627 --> 04:32:24.795
INDEPENDENT.
04:32:24.861 --> 04:32:26.263
TECHNICAL PANEL CONVENED BY THE
04:32:26.329 --> 04:32:27.831
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES OR
04:32:27.898 --> 04:32:29.433
THE D. W. ARE. TO PROVIDE
04:32:29.499 --> 04:32:33.904
INFORMATION A RECOMMENDATION.
04:32:33.970 --> 04:32:35.005
TO WATER USE MORE SUSTAINABLE IN
04:32:35.072 --> 04:32:36.773
OUR STATE.
04:32:36.840 --> 04:32:38.075
BY IMPROVING URBAN LANDSCAPE
04:32:38.141 --> 04:32:39.843
WATER EFFICIENCY AND REDUCING
04:32:39.910 --> 04:32:41.611
WASTE WE CAN SAVE ENERGY.
04:32:41.678 --> 04:32:42.913
LOWER WATER AND WASTEWATER
04:32:42.979 --> 04:32:44.715
TREATMENT COST ELIMINATE THE
04:32:44.781 --> 04:32:45.949
NEED FOR COSTLY NEW
04:32:46.016 --> 04:32:46.883
INFRASTRUCTURE.
04:32:46.950 --> 04:32:48.518
AND HELP CALIFORNIA MEET OUR
04:32:48.585 --> 04:32:49.886
SHORT AND LONG TERM WATER
04:32:49.953 --> 04:32:51.988
CHALLENGES.
04:32:52.055 --> 04:32:54.558
WATER IS ESSENTIAL TO ALL OF US
04:32:54.624 --> 04:32:56.493
AND AB TWENTY THREE SEVENTY ONE
04:32:56.560 --> 04:32:57.661
AIMS TO PROTECT THIS PRECIOUS
04:32:57.728 --> 04:32:58.628
RESOURCE. FOR ALL OF OUR
04:32:58.695 --> 04:33:00.897
COMMUNITIES WITH ME HERE TO
04:33:00.964 --> 04:33:03.033
TESTIFY IS GLENN FURROW OF THE
04:33:03.100 --> 04:33:04.234
SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY
04:33:04.301 --> 04:33:05.969
AND THE KEY TO KARATE OF THE
04:33:06.036 --> 04:33:07.637
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE CAO.
04:33:07.704 --> 04:33:10.507
VERY GOOD THANK YOU.
04:33:10.574 --> 04:33:11.475
RECEIVED A GOOD AFTERNOON THAT
04:33:11.541 --> 04:33:13.410
MISTER CHAIR SANDERS GLEN FOR
04:33:13.477 --> 04:33:13.944
ALL SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER
04:33:14.010 --> 04:33:15.045
AUTHORITY --
04:33:15.112 --> 04:33:16.847
JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO UNIT
04:33:16.913 --> 04:33:18.749
COLLEAGUES PASSED A VERY
04:33:18.815 --> 04:33:19.883
COMPREHENSIVE LANDMARK
04:33:19.950 --> 04:33:22.486
LEGISLATION IN THE AREA OF FILE
04:33:22.552 --> 04:33:24.054
WATER CONSERVATION MAKING.
04:33:24.121 --> 04:33:25.388
WATER CONSERVATION A WAY OF LIFE
04:33:25.455 --> 04:33:27.124
IN CALIFORNIA --
04:33:27.190 --> 04:33:28.692
THERE SEVERAL IMPORTANT
04:33:28.759 --> 04:33:30.794
COMPONENTS TO THOSE MEASURES ARE
04:33:30.861 --> 04:33:31.795
TO IMPROVE URBAN WATER USE
04:33:31.862 --> 04:33:33.063
EFFICIENCY INCLUDING THE
04:33:33.130 --> 04:33:34.698
ESTABLISHMENT OF INDOOR WATER
04:33:34.765 --> 04:33:36.399
USE STANDARDS WHICH WERE SET.
04:33:36.466 --> 04:33:38.235
IN THE STATUTES --
04:33:38.301 --> 04:33:40.137
ADDRESSING WATER LEAKS SYSTEM
04:33:40.203 --> 04:33:42.606
WATER LOSSES AND THEN ALSO
04:33:42.672 --> 04:33:43.807
ADDRESSING AYE OUTDOOR --
04:33:43.874 --> 04:33:46.009
WATER YOU STANDARDS --
04:33:46.076 --> 04:33:47.744
UNDER THE REGULATORY AGENCIES
04:33:47.811 --> 04:33:50.213
AND IN THE STATE.
04:33:50.280 --> 04:33:51.214
THIS WAS A NEW LONG TERM ON THE
04:33:51.281 --> 04:33:52.616
SUFFICIENCY LAWS BEGINS TO GIVE
04:33:52.682 --> 04:33:54.050
EMPLOYMENT EMPLOYMENT IN THE
04:33:54.117 --> 04:33:55.318
COMING YEARS.
04:33:55.385 --> 04:33:56.553
AND IS THE STATE REGULATORY
04:33:56.620 --> 04:33:57.754
AGENCIES ESTABLISH THOSE OUTDOOR
04:33:57.821 --> 04:33:59.456
WATER CONSERVATION STANDARDS
04:33:59.523 --> 04:34:00.857
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR WATER
04:34:00.924 --> 04:34:02.259
MANAGERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO
04:34:02.325 --> 04:34:03.760
HAVE ACCESS.
04:34:03.827 --> 04:34:06.163
TO TOOLS THAT WILL HELP THEM --
04:34:06.229 --> 04:34:07.397
MEET THE MORE STRINGENT AFTER
04:34:07.464 --> 04:34:09.232
WATER USE EFFICIENCY STANDARDS
04:34:09.299 --> 04:34:10.634
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT AB TWENTY
04:34:10.700 --> 04:34:11.735
THREE SOMEONE'S ABOUT IT'S
04:34:11.802 --> 04:34:13.203
IMPORTANT AND HELP YOU MORE
04:34:13.270 --> 04:34:14.704
MANAGERS IN AND THE WATER
04:34:14.771 --> 04:34:16.373
CONSUMERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
04:34:16.439 --> 04:34:18.041
MOVE TOWARD MEETING THOSE NEW
04:34:18.108 --> 04:34:19.876
AUTHORITIES STANDARDS THAT WILL
04:34:19.943 --> 04:34:21.511
EVENTUALLY BE IMPOSE SUPPORT
04:34:21.578 --> 04:34:22.813
THAT WE PROVIDE SOME COMMONSENSE
04:34:22.879 --> 04:34:23.713
TOOLS.
04:34:23.780 --> 04:34:25.448
AND THAT EVERYONE CAN'T YOU CAN
04:34:25.515 --> 04:34:28.718
USE.
04:34:28.785 --> 04:34:29.553
AND INDEED MAKE WATER
04:34:29.619 --> 04:34:30.787
CONSERVATION WAY LIFE CALIFORNIA
04:34:30.854 --> 04:34:31.922
WORD STRONG'S GOOD THANK YOU
04:34:31.988 --> 04:34:34.191
VERY MUCH.
04:34:34.257 --> 04:34:35.125
KATHLEEN CHEN MEMBERS NIKITA
04:34:35.192 --> 04:34:36.259
CRIED WITH A NOT RESOURCES
04:34:36.326 --> 04:34:38.094
DEFENSE COUNCIL I'LL BE BRIEF
04:34:38.161 --> 04:34:40.664
AND RTC SERVED ON THE I TP THAT
04:34:40.730 --> 04:34:42.232
WAS TASKED WITH DEVELOPING WATER
04:34:42.299 --> 04:34:43.967
MANAGEMENT AND DEMAND MANAGEMENT
04:34:44.034 --> 04:34:45.769
STRATEGIES INCLUDING THE ONES
04:34:45.836 --> 04:34:47.704
THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE SPELL --
04:34:47.771 --> 04:34:48.905
AS YOU'VE HEARD ENORMOUS AMOUNT
04:34:48.972 --> 04:34:50.040
OF WATER IS USED OUTDOORS IN
04:34:50.106 --> 04:34:51.441
CALIFORNIA ITIES AND TOWNS
04:34:51.508 --> 04:34:53.176
ACCOUNTING FOR ALMOST HALF OF
04:34:53.243 --> 04:34:53.777
THE STATE'S TOTAL URBAN WATER
04:34:53.844 --> 04:34:54.778
USE.
04:34:54.845 --> 04:34:55.846
AND WITH RECURRING DROUGHTS AND
04:34:55.912 --> 04:34:57.147
DRY CONDITIONS GRIPPING MUCH OF
04:34:57.214 --> 04:34:58.548
THE STATE IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE
04:34:58.615 --> 04:35:00.684
TAKE THESE FAIRLY MODEST AND
04:35:00.750 --> 04:35:02.285
COMMON SENSE STEPS. TO INCREASE
04:35:02.352 --> 04:35:03.954
EFFICIENCY IMPROVE LANDSCAPE
04:35:04.020 --> 04:35:06.189
DESIGN INTERROGATION PRACTICES
04:35:06.256 --> 04:35:07.457
AND DEMAND MANAGEMENT MEASURES
04:35:07.524 --> 04:35:09.226
I'M AT TWENTY THREE SEVENTY ONE
04:35:09.292 --> 04:35:10.126
PARTICULARLY WITH THE AMENDMENTS
04:35:10.193 --> 04:35:11.928
IN THE ANALYSIS TODAY DOES JUST
04:35:11.995 --> 04:35:13.096
THAT AND STRIKES THE RIGHT
04:35:13.163 --> 04:35:15.398
BALANCE AND WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR
04:35:15.465 --> 04:35:17.367
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU.
04:35:17.434 --> 04:35:17.968
OTHERS IN SUPPORT PLEASE COME
04:35:18.034 --> 04:35:19.469
FORWARD.
04:35:19.536 --> 04:35:20.704
IS THERE ANYONE HERE.
04:35:20.770 --> 04:35:24.407
HERE IN OPPOSITION [inaudible]
04:35:24.474 --> 04:35:26.877
MAKE YOURSELF.
04:35:26.943 --> 04:35:31.848
LIKE THIS EVENT [inaudible]
04:35:31.915 --> 04:35:35.418
I A BACK ON BEHALF OF THE
04:35:35.485 --> 04:35:36.653
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
04:35:36.720 --> 04:35:38.088
REALTORS.
04:35:38.154 --> 04:35:39.756
I'M IN ITS CURRENT FORM WE HAVE
04:35:39.823 --> 04:35:41.258
AN OPPOSING LESS AMENDED
04:35:41.324 --> 04:35:42.792
POSITION ON THIS BILL BUT THE
04:35:42.859 --> 04:35:44.394
OTHERS AMENDMENTS TODAY ARM DO
04:35:44.461 --> 04:35:46.563
ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS AND WE'LL
04:35:46.630 --> 04:35:47.063
BE HAPPY TO REMOVE THAT
04:35:47.130 --> 04:35:48.265
OPPOSITION.
04:35:48.331 --> 04:35:49.232
WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS THANK YOU
04:35:49.299 --> 04:35:51.067
VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
04:35:51.134 --> 04:35:52.068
CHAIR JERRY DESMOND UP HALF THE
04:35:52.135 --> 04:35:53.270
CALIFORNIA REAL ESTATE
04:35:53.336 --> 04:35:55.305
INSPECTION ASSOCIATION AGAIN
04:35:55.372 --> 04:35:56.573
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY WORK
04:35:56.640 --> 04:35:57.407
WITH THIS SEMI MEMBER IN THE
04:35:57.474 --> 04:35:58.108
PROPONENTS.
04:35:58.174 --> 04:35:59.476
OF WITH THE AMENDMENTS BEING
04:35:59.542 --> 04:36:01.011
TAKEN THE COMMITTEE TODAY WERE
04:36:01.077 --> 04:36:02.612
NEUTRAL WITH THE BILL FINE WITH
04:36:02.679 --> 04:36:03.246
THE BILL AND WE EVEN GIVE A
04:36:03.313 --> 04:36:05.315
SERMON ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE ON
04:36:05.382 --> 04:36:06.516
SOME OF MORT A MEAT THAT WE
04:36:06.583 --> 04:36:07.751
COULD BE ADDED TO THE INSPECTION
04:36:07.817 --> 04:36:08.952
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL.
04:36:09.019 --> 04:36:11.354
AS IT MOVES FORWARD THANK YOU
04:36:11.421 --> 04:36:12.155
MISTER DESMOND APPRECIATE.
04:36:12.222 --> 04:36:15.692
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
04:36:15.759 --> 04:36:16.993
THANK YOU UPDATING BERKELEY
04:36:17.060 --> 04:36:18.762
CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU --
04:36:18.828 --> 04:36:20.497
WE'VE BEEN ON RECORD AS BEING
04:36:20.563 --> 04:36:21.831
OPPOSED LESS AMENDED --
04:36:21.898 --> 04:36:23.433
SOLVE AMENDMENTS TODAY WILL BE
04:36:23.500 --> 04:36:25.468
LOOKING AT THOSE IN EVALUATING
04:36:25.535 --> 04:36:26.036
OUR POSITION THANK THANK YOU
04:36:26.102 --> 04:36:28.305
VERY MUCH.
04:36:28.371 --> 04:36:29.472
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN
04:36:29.539 --> 04:36:31.007
RESERVE THAT COMMITTEE LARA KNOW
04:36:31.074 --> 04:36:32.142
AND HE JUST ON BEHALF OF THE
04:36:32.208 --> 04:36:33.443
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
04:36:33.510 --> 04:36:34.778
NURSERY GARDEN CENTERS WE ALSO
04:36:34.844 --> 04:36:36.112
HAVE AN OPPOSING MUST AMENDED
04:36:36.179 --> 04:36:37.280
POSITION --
04:36:37.347 --> 04:36:38.882
BUT APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S WORK
04:36:38.949 --> 04:36:40.350
AND LOOK FORWARD TO LOOKING AT
04:36:40.417 --> 04:36:41.785
THOSE AMENDMENTS AS WE THINK
04:36:41.851 --> 04:36:43.720
THEY WILL ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS --
04:36:43.787 --> 04:36:45.055
BUT AS OF NOW WILL KEEP PURPOSES
04:36:45.121 --> 04:36:46.523
INCLUDED THANK YOU OTHERS IN
04:36:46.590 --> 04:36:47.791
OPPOSITION SCENE NO ONE BRING IT
04:36:47.857 --> 04:36:49.426
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
04:36:49.492 --> 04:36:51.394
CONSIDERATION IS SENATOR GLAZERS.
04:36:51.461 --> 04:36:52.796
THANK THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR I
04:36:52.862 --> 04:36:54.331
WANT TO DO I THINK THE ASSEMBLY
04:36:54.397 --> 04:36:55.699
WOMAN FOR YOUR WORK IN THIS AREA
04:36:55.765 --> 04:36:56.833
YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THIS
04:36:56.900 --> 04:36:58.168
IMPORTANT SUBJECT.
04:36:58.234 --> 04:36:59.936
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK OVER
04:37:00.003 --> 04:37:00.770
THE LAST FEW YEARS IN THIS AREA
04:37:00.837 --> 04:37:03.106
AND CERTAINLY I APPRECIATED THE
04:37:03.173 --> 04:37:04.074
LEGISLATURE SUPPORT OF MY
04:37:04.140 --> 04:37:05.375
LEGISLATION EARLIER THIS YEAR TO
04:37:05.442 --> 04:37:06.776
PROVIDE.
04:37:06.843 --> 04:37:08.511
I WATER RECYCLING OPPORTUNITIES
04:37:08.578 --> 04:37:10.513
WITHOUT PAYING HIGHER TAXES FOR
04:37:10.580 --> 04:37:12.615
RESIDENCY IT ENDED UP ON THE
04:37:12.682 --> 04:37:14.484
BALLOT AS PROPOSITION.
04:37:14.551 --> 04:37:15.051
SEVENTY TWO AND RECEIVE THE
04:37:15.118 --> 04:37:16.853
HIGHEST VOTE TOTAL IN THIS LAST
04:37:16.920 --> 04:37:18.521
ELECTION PENDING BICU HAD TO
04:37:18.588 --> 04:37:21.491
REMIND US OF THAT NO GOOD THIS
04:37:21.558 --> 04:37:22.258
IS A LOT ABOUT WHAT.
04:37:22.325 --> 04:37:25.695
THAT I I JUST WANTED LONG
04:37:25.762 --> 04:37:28.832
CONCERNED YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
04:37:28.898 --> 04:37:30.800
I JUST HAVE TO CLOSE AYE.
04:37:30.867 --> 04:37:31.835
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IF THERE
04:37:31.901 --> 04:37:33.169
IS AN OPTION.
04:37:33.236 --> 04:37:34.070
IF YOU DECIDE TO THANK YOU.
04:37:34.137 --> 04:37:35.238
LETTER ON THE RECORD SENATOR
04:37:35.305 --> 04:37:36.940
DODD THAT OKAY --
04:37:37.007 --> 04:37:38.541
ASSEMBLY WOMAN IF YOU DECIDE TO
04:37:38.608 --> 04:37:39.275
TAKE AUTHORS DOWN THE ROAD IT
04:37:39.342 --> 04:37:40.710
VIA.
04:37:40.777 --> 04:37:42.379
A PRIVILEGE TO BE ON THERE AS A
04:37:42.445 --> 04:37:43.747
CO AUTHOR WITH USE OF THANK YOU
04:37:43.813 --> 04:37:45.215
FOR YOUR GOOD WORK AND HAPPY TO
04:37:45.281 --> 04:37:46.282
MOVE TO THE A FEW SENATE
04:37:46.349 --> 04:37:47.450
REGULARLY LETTER LOT AGREES OF
04:37:47.517 --> 04:37:48.718
OF THE FOOD FURTHER COMMENTS OR
04:37:48.785 --> 04:37:49.386
QUESTIONS.
04:37:49.452 --> 04:37:50.687
OF EMOTION FROM SENATOR GLAZERS
04:37:50.754 --> 04:37:52.155
YES I'M SORRY QUICK COMMENT I
04:37:52.222 --> 04:37:53.890
I'M LA OFF THE BILL TODAY BASED
04:37:53.957 --> 04:37:55.358
UPON -- WHAT
04:37:55.425 --> 04:37:57.160
SOME PEOPLE SAID BAD LOOKING FOR
04:37:57.227 --> 04:37:58.161
I'M LOOKING FOR TO HOPEFULLY
04:37:58.228 --> 04:37:59.629
VOTING FOR ON THE FLOOR BECAUSE
04:37:59.696 --> 04:38:02.198
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE VERY
04:38:02.265 --> 04:38:02.432
CLOSE?
04:38:02.499 --> 04:38:04.768
I APPRECIATE ALL OUR EFFORTS.
04:38:04.834 --> 04:38:06.603
WE THANK YOU WE DO HAVE A MOTION
04:38:06.669 --> 04:38:08.538
NOW FROM SENATOR GLAZER WHICH
04:38:08.605 --> 04:38:09.906
LIKE CLOTHES AND WITH NO REAL.
04:38:09.973 --> 04:38:11.508
THANK YOU WELL THANKS FOR THE
04:38:11.574 --> 04:38:13.143
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT --
04:38:13.209 --> 04:38:14.711
FAIRLY NEW MEMBER.
04:38:14.778 --> 04:38:17.213
THIS IS MY ONE OF MY FIRST --
04:38:17.280 --> 04:38:18.048
PRESENTATIONS ON THE SENATE
04:38:18.114 --> 04:38:19.949
THOSE LITTLE NERVOUS BUT THANK
04:38:20.016 --> 04:38:22.519
YOU FOR MAKING AND A COMMON
04:38:22.585 --> 04:38:24.554
EXPERIENCE UNLIKE PREVIOUS ONES.
04:38:24.621 --> 04:38:26.990
THAT I HAD FOR HER EDUCATION.
04:38:27.057 --> 04:38:30.326
WE NOTE THAT WHAT IS.
04:38:30.393 --> 04:38:31.928
BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WE'VE
04:38:31.995 --> 04:38:33.463
BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD --
04:38:33.530 --> 04:38:34.964
WITH THE SPONSORS AS WELL AS
04:38:35.031 --> 04:38:35.865
THOSE THAT HAVE EXPRESSED
04:38:35.932 --> 04:38:37.400
OPPOSITION AND REALLY WANT TO
04:38:37.467 --> 04:38:38.034
COME TO A PLACE WHERE WE AGREE
04:38:38.101 --> 04:38:39.069
WHERE -- WE
04:38:39.135 --> 04:38:40.437
REALLY JUST WANT TO HELP ENSURE
04:38:40.503 --> 04:38:42.405
THAT WE ARE RECEIVING WATER AND
04:38:42.472 --> 04:38:44.340
HELPING PEOPLE ACROSS CALIFORNIA.
04:38:44.407 --> 04:38:45.442
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AND I
04:38:45.508 --> 04:38:46.009
BOTH VERY GOOD THANK YOU FOR
04:38:46.076 --> 04:38:48.978
WORKING.
04:38:49.045 --> 04:38:50.146
TO THAT NIGHT SPOT THAT YOU'RE
04:38:50.213 --> 04:38:51.614
AT THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE
04:38:51.681 --> 04:38:52.215
DO HAVE THE MOTION PLEASE CALL
04:38:52.282 --> 04:38:53.149
THE ROLL.
04:38:53.216 --> 04:38:55.418
RUSSIA'S DO PASS AS AMENDED TO
04:38:55.485 --> 04:38:56.086
SENATE NATURAL RESOURCES
04:38:56.152 --> 04:38:56.786
COMMITTEE.
04:38:56.853 --> 04:38:59.656
HILL BY HILL AYE FULLER.
04:38:59.722 --> 04:39:00.924
FULLER KNOW ALLEN.
04:39:00.990 --> 04:39:02.792
ALLEN AYE DODD.
04:39:02.859 --> 04:39:03.993
I THOUGHT I GALGIANI
04:39:04.060 --> 04:39:04.294
[inaudible]
04:39:04.360 --> 04:39:05.295
GLAZER [inaudible]
04:39:05.361 --> 04:39:07.097
GLAZER [inaudible]
04:39:07.163 --> 04:39:10.500
GLAZER I HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ AYE
04:39:10.567 --> 04:39:17.507
PAN AYE PAN AYE WILK. SIX TO ONE
04:39:17.574 --> 04:39:18.575
WILL BE THE ROLE OPEN FOR THE
04:39:18.641 --> 04:39:19.542
ABSENT MEMBERS THANK YOU VERY
04:39:19.609 --> 04:39:21.578
MUCH [inaudible]
04:39:21.644 --> 04:39:23.713
ASSEMBLYMEMBER O'DONNELL.
04:39:23.780 --> 04:39:24.914
IT'S MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER
04:39:24.981 --> 04:39:26.716
TWENTY AB TWENTY FOUR FORTY FIVE
04:39:26.783 --> 04:39:33.823
WELCOME.
04:39:33.890 --> 04:39:35.525
IT AFTERNOON THAT GOOD AFTERNOON
04:39:35.592 --> 04:39:37.494
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS I AM
04:39:37.560 --> 04:39:40.430
PLEASED RESENT AB.
04:39:40.497 --> 04:39:41.064
TWENTY FOUR FORTY FIVE WHICH IS
04:39:41.131 --> 04:39:42.132
A FOLLOW A MEASURE TO LAST
04:39:42.198 --> 04:39:44.067
YEAR'S AB FORTY FIVE WHICH
04:39:44.134 --> 04:39:45.435
BEGINNING IN TWENTY NINETEEN
04:39:45.502 --> 04:39:47.270
REQUIRES PET STORE SELLING DOGS
04:39:47.337 --> 04:39:48.805
CATS AND RABBITS TO SOURCE THESE
04:39:48.872 --> 04:39:49.973
ANIMALS.
04:39:50.039 --> 04:39:51.307
FROM SHELTERS OR NON PROFIT
04:39:51.374 --> 04:39:53.276
RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS.
04:39:53.343 --> 04:39:54.844
AB FORTY FIVE EXEMPTED PET
04:39:54.911 --> 04:39:55.945
STORES FROM A NUMBER OF WARRANTY
04:39:56.012 --> 04:39:57.313
LOS.
04:39:57.380 --> 04:39:58.748
A PROMISE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH
04:39:58.815 --> 04:40:00.416
THE STAKEHOLDERS AND RECAST THE
04:40:00.483 --> 04:40:01.384
PROVISIONS THE FOLLOWING YEAR
04:40:01.451 --> 04:40:03.052
THIS YEAR.
04:40:03.119 --> 04:40:05.021
AB TWENTY FOUR FORTY FIVE AS A
04:40:05.088 --> 04:40:05.722
RESULT OF THIS PROMISE AND
04:40:05.788 --> 04:40:07.824
SIMPLY INSURES.
04:40:07.891 --> 04:40:09.225
THAT PET STORES ARE STILL
04:40:09.292 --> 04:40:10.927
REQUIRED WORD TO PROVIDE CERTAIN
04:40:10.994 --> 04:40:11.961
INFORMATION TO CONSUMERS
04:40:12.028 --> 04:40:14.063
PURCHASING ANIMALS UNDER THE FOR
04:40:14.130 --> 04:40:14.898
THE EIGHTY FOUR EIGHTY FIVE
04:40:14.964 --> 04:40:17.667
SALES MODEL.
04:40:17.734 --> 04:40:18.568
AND WITH THAT I I HAVE WOULD
04:40:18.635 --> 04:40:20.637
MAKE YOU VERY MUCH WITNESSES IN
04:40:20.703 --> 04:40:21.938
SUPPORT WHOLLY FOR MEANING WITH
04:40:22.005 --> 04:40:23.006
THE WHITE HOUSE PUBLIC AFFAIRS
04:40:23.072 --> 04:40:23.673
ON BEHALF OF SOCIAL
04:40:23.740 --> 04:40:24.841
COMPASSIONATE LEGISLATION THE
04:40:24.908 --> 04:40:26.543
SPONSOR OF MEASURE OF THIS IS
04:40:26.609 --> 04:40:28.011
JUST SIMPLE CLEAN APPETIZERS
04:40:28.077 --> 04:40:28.645
BILL WE RESPECTFULLY îUEST
04:40:28.711 --> 04:40:30.346
YOUR ABOUT.
04:40:30.413 --> 04:40:31.848
GOOD THANK YOU OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
04:40:31.915 --> 04:40:32.348
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
04:40:32.415 --> 04:40:34.484
OPPOSITION.
04:40:34.551 --> 04:40:35.051
NO ONE BUT HIM BACK TO THE
04:40:35.118 --> 04:40:36.085
COMMITTEE.
04:40:36.152 --> 04:40:37.620
GREAT BILL SENATOR GLAZER MOVED
04:40:37.687 --> 04:40:38.688
WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE.
04:40:38.755 --> 04:40:41.357
LAST FOREVER VERY GOOD THANK YOU
04:40:41.424 --> 04:40:42.959
VERY MUCH PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
04:40:43.026 --> 04:40:43.893
IT HAS TO PASS THE SENATE FLOOR
04:40:43.960 --> 04:40:45.261
HELD AYE [inaudible]
04:40:45.328 --> 04:40:46.296
I'VE FULLER [inaudible]
04:40:46.362 --> 04:40:48.464
AYE ALLEN.
04:40:48.531 --> 04:40:49.666
ALLEN I DONT BY DODD AYE
04:40:49.732 --> 04:40:52.168
GALGIANI.
04:40:52.235 --> 04:40:53.069
GLAZER.
04:40:53.136 --> 04:40:55.004
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
04:40:55.071 --> 04:40:57.373
AYE PAN AYE I CAN AYE WILK AYE
04:40:57.440 --> 04:41:01.211
BOOK AYE. EIGHT ZERO IN WE WILL
04:41:01.277 --> 04:41:02.845
HOLD THE RULER PROTRUDE ABSENT
04:41:02.912 --> 04:41:05.848
MEMBERS HERE THANK YOU VERY MUCH
04:41:05.915 --> 04:41:06.316
HIM OR NOT [inaudible]
04:41:06.382 --> 04:41:08.718
GREAT -- WE
04:41:08.785 --> 04:41:11.788
WILL MOVE NOW TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER
04:41:11.854 --> 04:41:14.457
STONE I SAW JUST WALK IN.
04:41:14.524 --> 04:41:16.025
GOOD AFTERNOON OR EVENING IT'S
04:41:16.092 --> 04:41:17.694
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY THREE MOVED
04:41:17.760 --> 04:41:19.495
AB [inaudible]
04:41:19.562 --> 04:41:22.232
TWENTY SIX OH EIGHT WELCOME.
04:41:22.298 --> 04:41:22.765
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
04:41:22.832 --> 04:41:24.801
SENATORS AB TWENTY SIX THE
04:41:24.867 --> 04:41:26.069
LATEST TO SUPPORT FORMER FOSTER
04:41:26.135 --> 04:41:27.503
YOU.
04:41:27.570 --> 04:41:29.706
THERE'S AN EXISTING PROGRAM THAT
04:41:29.772 --> 04:41:33.476
IS AN ADDITIONAL FEE ON LICENSES
04:41:33.543 --> 04:41:35.111
FOR SOCIAL WORKERS AND WHAT
04:41:35.178 --> 04:41:35.712
WE'RE DOING IS EXPANDING THAT
04:41:35.778 --> 04:41:38.414
PROGRAM. TO GIVE FORMER FOSTER
04:41:38.481 --> 04:41:40.049
YOUTH GRANTS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO
04:41:40.116 --> 04:41:41.951
GRADUATE SCHOOL A NUMBER OF
04:41:42.018 --> 04:41:43.319
FORMER FROST YOUTH WANT TO GO
04:41:43.386 --> 04:41:44.654
INTO SOCIAL WORK BECAUSE OF THE
04:41:44.721 --> 04:41:46.155
EXPERIENCES THEY'VE HAD.
04:41:46.222 --> 04:41:48.024
THEY ARE VALUABLE ADDITIONS.
04:41:48.091 --> 04:41:50.426
THAT IS A RESOURCE AND WE HELP
04:41:50.493 --> 04:41:51.494
THEM THROUGH COLLEGE BUT WE
04:41:51.561 --> 04:41:52.829
DON'T ALWAYS HELP THEM THROUGH
04:41:52.895 --> 04:41:54.330
GRADUATE SCHOOL THIS IS THIS
04:41:54.397 --> 04:41:57.000
BILL WOULD EXPAND THAT PROGRAM
04:41:57.066 --> 04:41:57.734
TO LET FORMER FOSTER YOUTH
04:41:57.800 --> 04:41:59.135
WHO'VE HAD A A TOUGH GO OF IT.
04:41:59.202 --> 04:42:01.371
AND DIFFICULT LIFE BE ABLE TO
04:42:01.437 --> 04:42:03.206
TURN THAT AROUND NOT ONLY GET AN
04:42:03.273 --> 04:42:04.707
EDUCATION BUT GO TO GRAD SCHOOL
04:42:04.774 --> 04:42:06.709
AND BECOME SCIAL WORKER SO THIS
04:42:06.776 --> 04:42:08.011
IS A BILL THAT'S JUST.
04:42:08.077 --> 04:42:09.979
EXPANDING TO SOME EXTENT THAT
04:42:10.046 --> 04:42:11.547
EXISTING PROGRAM AND I ASK FOR
04:42:11.614 --> 04:42:13.483
YOUR AYE THOSE.
04:42:13.549 --> 04:42:14.584
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN THERE
04:42:14.651 --> 04:42:15.885
WERE OF AMENDMENTS THERE ARE
04:42:15.952 --> 04:42:17.787
AMENDMENTS YES AND FACT ON THE
04:42:17.854 --> 04:42:19.622
ASSEMBLY FLOOR GREED TO CUT THE
04:42:19.689 --> 04:42:21.658
FEE IN HALF TO TWO DOLLARS AND
04:42:21.724 --> 04:42:23.059
FIFTY CENTS ANNUALLY.
04:42:23.126 --> 04:42:24.927
WHICH WE'RE DOING.
04:42:24.994 --> 04:42:26.729
AND TO STRIKE THE PROVISION THAT
04:42:26.796 --> 04:42:28.698
PRIORITIZE FORMER FOSTER YOUTH
04:42:28.765 --> 04:42:31.301
SPECIFICALLY SO IT'S OPEN.
04:42:31.367 --> 04:42:33.336
FOR MORE KIDS AT RISK BUT THE
04:42:33.403 --> 04:42:34.704
FOCUS IS ON FOSTER YOU SO THAT
04:42:34.771 --> 04:42:37.206
DOES PLAY INTO IT AND THEN I'M
04:42:37.273 --> 04:42:38.841
HAPPY TO ACCEPT YOUR AMENDMENTS.
04:42:38.908 --> 04:42:40.510
TO GET RID OF THE TONY THE
04:42:40.576 --> 04:42:41.244
TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR CAP
04:42:41.311 --> 04:42:42.445
BECAUSE WE DON'T WHAT WE DON'T
04:42:42.512 --> 04:42:43.212
WANT TO DO.
04:42:43.279 --> 04:42:44.714
IS INSISTENT TOO SO I SOMETHING
04:42:44.781 --> 04:42:46.015
THAT PUTS AN ARTIFICIAL
04:42:46.082 --> 04:42:47.884
RESTRAINT ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
04:42:47.950 --> 04:42:49.552
THAT A FORMER FAST YOU CAN GET
04:42:49.619 --> 04:42:51.020
IF THEY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
04:42:51.087 --> 04:42:52.622
OF THESE OR OTHER.
04:42:52.689 --> 04:42:53.556
PROGRAMS CRITICS WHO LIKE TO DO
04:42:53.623 --> 04:42:55.725
THAT THANK YOU OF WITNESSES IN
04:42:55.792 --> 04:42:57.727
SUPPORT IT IS A GOOD SOLUTION IT
04:42:57.794 --> 04:42:58.227
IS AGO.
04:42:58.294 --> 04:42:59.796
MY NAME IS DOCTOR MIKE SEGURA --
04:42:59.862 --> 04:43:03.066
I THINK THE I ALWAYS FOR FORMER
04:43:03.132 --> 04:43:04.801
FOSSEY'S IN GRAD SCHOOL --
04:43:04.867 --> 04:43:06.302
WE RARELY DO.
04:43:06.369 --> 04:43:07.603
I AM A FORMER FOSTER YOUTH
04:43:07.670 --> 04:43:10.273
WITHOUT FOR PLACEMENTS I WAS
04:43:10.340 --> 04:43:11.641
INTERMITTENTLY HOMELESS ON SIX
04:43:11.708 --> 04:43:13.242
OR EIGHT OCCASIONS ORDER
04:43:13.309 --> 04:43:15.044
FOURTEEN SCHOOLS FROM K. THROUGH.
04:43:15.111 --> 04:43:16.045
TWELVE FROM THAT AYE CLIMBED OUT
04:43:16.112 --> 04:43:17.313
OF IT AND GOT MY PHD THE HARD
04:43:17.380 --> 04:43:19.716
WAY -- NOT
04:43:19.782 --> 04:43:21.017
THAT THERE IS AN EASY WAY I
04:43:21.084 --> 04:43:21.617
DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT
04:43:21.684 --> 04:43:22.952
THAT.
04:43:23.019 --> 04:43:23.953
BUT WHAT ALL SHARES THIS IS
04:43:24.020 --> 04:43:25.488
ABOUT.
04:43:25.555 --> 04:43:26.789
FORMER CLIENTS WHO HAVE BECOME
04:43:26.856 --> 04:43:28.891
CAUGHT COLLEAGUES.
04:43:28.958 --> 04:43:30.159
THEY'VE ALREADY GRADUATED FROM
04:43:30.226 --> 04:43:31.294
THERE MR BICU PROGRAMS THEY'VE
04:43:31.361 --> 04:43:32.295
ALREADY BEEN.
04:43:32.362 --> 04:43:33.596
EDUCATED TRAINED VETTED
04:43:33.663 --> 04:43:36.099
CERTIFIED GIVEN ONLY 3% OF
04:43:36.165 --> 04:43:37.033
FORMER FAUCET EVEN GET
04:43:37.100 --> 04:43:38.601
BACCALAUREATE DEGREES.
04:43:38.668 --> 04:43:39.469
THIS IS --
04:43:39.535 --> 04:43:40.503
MINORITY OF A MINORITY OF A
04:43:40.570 --> 04:43:42.105
MINORITY.
04:43:42.171 --> 04:43:43.506
AND THEY'RE WALKING IN WITH
04:43:43.573 --> 04:43:45.675
THEIR EYES OPEN.
04:43:45.742 --> 04:43:47.176
THE SOCIAL WELFARE FIELD HAS
04:43:47.243 --> 04:43:48.511
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TURNOVER
04:43:48.578 --> 04:43:50.213
IT'S A HIGH BURNOUT JOB IN HERE
04:43:50.279 --> 04:43:51.814
WE HAVE DEDICATED TRAINED PEOPLE
04:43:51.881 --> 04:43:53.182
THAT LITERALLY GREW UP IN THE
04:43:53.249 --> 04:43:54.083
SYSTEM.
04:43:54.150 --> 04:43:56.452
AND ARE ENTERING IT TO GIVE BACK.
04:43:56.519 --> 04:43:59.522
AND THIS IS A VERY SMALL MEASURE
04:43:59.589 --> 04:44:02.225
THAT COULD HELP YOU KNOW.
04:44:02.291 --> 04:44:03.860
IT COULD HELP THEM.
04:44:03.926 --> 04:44:05.695
HAVE SOMETHING WAITING FOR THEM
04:44:05.762 --> 04:44:06.262
WHEN THEY MAKE IT ACROSS THE
04:44:06.329 --> 04:44:08.998
FINISH LINE.
04:44:09.065 --> 04:44:09.565
I GUESS I'LL SHARE THIS ONE
04:44:09.632 --> 04:44:11.334
ANECDOTE.
04:44:11.401 --> 04:44:13.302
EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE THERE SOME --
04:44:13.369 --> 04:44:15.071
VIDEOS THAT SOAP CIRCULATE ON
04:44:15.138 --> 04:44:16.506
ONLINE.
04:44:16.572 --> 04:44:18.674
AND THEY HAVE US AMONG.
04:44:18.741 --> 04:44:19.275
DRAGGING THEMSELVES ACROSS THE
04:44:19.342 --> 04:44:21.110
FINISH LINE.
04:44:21.177 --> 04:44:23.012
AND PEOPLE CHEER PEOPLE APPLAUD
04:44:23.079 --> 04:44:24.847
THEM AND THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY
04:44:24.914 --> 04:44:26.716
THEY CLAP SOMETIMES OR THEY HAVE
04:44:26.783 --> 04:44:28.684
A STRUCTURE WAITING FOR THEM.
04:44:28.751 --> 04:44:30.753
NO ONE EVER ASKS HOW LONG IT
04:44:30.820 --> 04:44:31.387
TAKES BEFORE THAT PERSON CAN RUN
04:44:31.454 --> 04:44:33.489
AGAIN.
04:44:33.556 --> 04:44:35.024
THAT'S WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR FORMER
04:44:35.091 --> 04:44:35.625
BOSS USED TO GET THROUGH GRAD
04:44:35.691 --> 04:44:36.926
SCHOOL.
04:44:36.993 --> 04:44:38.528
PLEASE PASS THIS.
04:44:38.594 --> 04:44:40.263
GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:44:40.329 --> 04:44:42.765
APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE TODAY
04:44:42.832 --> 04:44:44.901
THANK YOU OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
04:44:44.967 --> 04:44:45.368
IS YOUR ANYONE HERE IN
04:44:45.435 --> 04:44:56.746
OPPOSITION.
04:44:56.813 --> 04:44:58.014
REYES AND HELMS REPRESENTING THE
04:44:58.080 --> 04:44:59.582
BOARD OF BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES ON
04:44:59.649 --> 04:45:01.150
AND FIRST OF THE BOARD WOULD
04:45:01.217 --> 04:45:02.652
LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHOR AND THE
04:45:02.718 --> 04:45:04.787
SPONSORS FOR TAKING SOME OF OUR
04:45:04.854 --> 04:45:05.688
TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS AND WORKING
04:45:05.755 --> 04:45:06.022
WITH.
04:45:06.088 --> 04:45:07.490
WITH US I'M NOT ESPECIALLY THE
04:45:07.557 --> 04:45:09.125
DELAYED IMPLEMENTATION DATE SO
04:45:09.192 --> 04:45:10.560
THAT OUR BOARD COULD UP ACTIVELY
04:45:10.626 --> 04:45:11.994
IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM WERE TO BE
04:45:12.061 --> 04:45:12.795
SIGNED.
04:45:12.862 --> 04:45:14.330
ON THE BOARD IS FULLY SUPPORTIVE
04:45:14.397 --> 04:45:15.832
OF FOSTER YOUTH AND THAT THEIR
04:45:15.898 --> 04:45:17.300
EFFORTS TO FUND FURTHER THEIR
04:45:17.366 --> 04:45:19.469
EDUCATION AND CAREERS HOWEVER IT
04:45:19.535 --> 04:45:21.037
HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT.
04:45:21.103 --> 04:45:22.939
OF THIS BILL SETS BY ALLOWING
04:45:23.005 --> 04:45:24.240
ONE PARTICULAR GROUP A SEPARATE
04:45:24.307 --> 04:45:25.875
GRANT FUND --
04:45:25.942 --> 04:45:27.043
WHILE THEIR OTHER EXISTING
04:45:27.109 --> 04:45:28.578
GROUPS OUT THERE THAT ARE ALSO
04:45:28.644 --> 04:45:30.413
EQUALLY DISADVANTAGE WITH
04:45:30.480 --> 04:45:31.781
LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES --
04:45:31.848 --> 04:45:33.649
JUST LAST YEAR A BILL WAS SIGNED
04:45:33.716 --> 04:45:35.251
BY THE GOVERNOR THAT --
04:45:35.318 --> 04:45:36.652
DOUBLED THE FEES THE BOARD
04:45:36.719 --> 04:45:38.554
LICENSEES PAY INTO THIS SAME
04:45:38.621 --> 04:45:39.755
GRANT PROGRAM --
04:45:39.822 --> 04:45:41.357
FROM TEN DOLLARS --
04:45:41.424 --> 04:45:43.092
BIENNIALLY AT RENEWAL TO TWENTY
04:45:43.159 --> 04:45:45.728
DOLLARS EFFECTIVE JULY ONE
04:45:45.795 --> 04:45:46.762
TWENTY EIGHTEEN AND THAT'S GOING
04:45:46.829 --> 04:45:47.897
TO HAVE AN EFFECT DOUBLE THE
04:45:47.964 --> 04:45:49.065
NUMBER OF LOAN P. PAYMENT
04:45:49.131 --> 04:45:50.366
REPAYMENT GRANTS AVAILABLE
04:45:50.433 --> 04:45:51.934
ALREADY --
04:45:52.001 --> 04:45:53.169
AND THAT BECOMES EFFECTIVE LIKE
04:45:53.236 --> 04:45:56.706
THAT JUNE --
04:45:56.772 --> 04:45:58.007
AND SO.
04:45:58.074 --> 04:46:00.042
BENEDICTION I'M WE HAVE THE
04:46:00.109 --> 04:46:01.210
TWENTY DOLLAR FEE INCREASE LAST
04:46:01.277 --> 04:46:02.578
YEAR ON THE TIMINGOF THIS
04:46:02.645 --> 04:46:04.380
ADDING ANOTHER PHAM A FEE ON TO
04:46:04.447 --> 04:46:06.282
BOARD LICENSEES OR BOARD IS ALSO
04:46:06.349 --> 04:46:07.617
UNDERTAKING --
04:46:07.683 --> 04:46:09.519
WILL BEGIN THIS AUGUST I'M
04:46:09.585 --> 04:46:11.087
HOPING TO FINISH UP THE NEW ON
04:46:11.153 --> 04:46:13.756
THAT BY THE NEW YEAR A FEE AUDIT --
04:46:13.823 --> 04:46:15.858
AND IT WILL LIKELY REQUIRE THE
04:46:15.925 --> 04:46:18.194
BOARD TO INCREASE ITS LICENSING
04:46:18.261 --> 04:46:19.595
FEES --
04:46:19.662 --> 04:46:20.596
SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE
04:46:20.663 --> 04:46:21.931
SINCE EITHER THE LATE NINETIES
04:46:21.998 --> 04:46:23.399
EARLY TWO THOUSANDS WERE NOT
04:46:23.466 --> 04:46:24.567
SURE OF THE EXACT DATE.
04:46:24.634 --> 04:46:26.569
COM SO WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS
04:46:26.636 --> 04:46:28.337
IN LIEU OF THIS ADDITIONAL FEE
04:46:28.404 --> 04:46:30.506
AND FUND THE BOARD RESPECTFULLY
04:46:30.573 --> 04:46:31.841
SUGGEST THAT THE BILL BE AMENDED
04:46:31.908 --> 04:46:33.175
TO INSTEAD REQUIRE THAT AN
04:46:33.242 --> 04:46:34.710
APPLICANT'S HISTORY AS A FOSTER
04:46:34.777 --> 04:46:35.411
YOUTH.
04:46:35.478 --> 04:46:37.079
MAY BE CONSIDERED AS A FACTOR
04:46:37.146 --> 04:46:38.381
WHEN AWARDING THESE LOAN
04:46:38.447 --> 04:46:39.916
REPAYMENT GRANT SINCE THE MONEY
04:46:39.982 --> 04:46:41.584
HAS ALREADY JUST BEEN DOUBLE
04:46:41.651 --> 04:46:44.921
THAT'S THE LAST YEAR --
04:46:44.987 --> 04:46:46.923
POSH PUT IT WHICH IN ADINISTERS
04:46:46.989 --> 04:46:49.358
THIS PROGRAM HAS COME HOUSE
04:46:49.425 --> 04:46:51.460
REGULATIONS OF THAT SPECIFY THE
04:46:51.527 --> 04:46:52.895
CRITERIA FOR THE LOAN
04:46:52.962 --> 04:46:54.630
APPLICATION PROCESS --
04:46:54.697 --> 04:46:56.132
AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS SOME
04:46:56.198 --> 04:46:57.266
THAT ARE ACCOUNTED FOR IN CAN
04:46:57.333 --> 04:46:58.935
INCLUDE COMMITTEE BACKGROUND AND
04:46:59.001 --> 04:47:01.070
INVOLVEMENT CAREER GOALS --
04:47:01.137 --> 04:47:02.605
CULTURAL AND LINGUISTIC COP
04:47:02.672 --> 04:47:04.407
CONFIDENCE OF FOSTER USE --
04:47:04.473 --> 04:47:05.975
MIGHT DEFINITELY --
04:47:06.042 --> 04:47:08.010
ALREADY BE WELL QUALIFIED FOR
04:47:08.077 --> 04:47:09.312
THEIR LOAN REPAYMENT GRANT
04:47:09.378 --> 04:47:10.980
PROGRAM SO.
04:47:11.047 --> 04:47:14.016
THAT IS OUR SUGGESTION THANK YOU
04:47:14.083 --> 04:47:14.784
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
04:47:14.850 --> 04:47:15.084
[inaudible]
04:47:15.151 --> 04:47:17.720
OTHER OPPOSITION.
04:47:17.787 --> 04:47:19.255
WE'RE CONCERNED HERE GINA AND
04:47:19.322 --> 04:47:19.855
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
04:47:19.922 --> 04:47:22.491
AS SENATOR PENN.
04:47:22.558 --> 04:47:23.626
THANK YOU --
04:47:23.693 --> 04:47:24.093
I GUESS I YOU KNOW --
04:47:24.160 --> 04:47:26.329
BUT APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE
04:47:26.395 --> 04:47:27.830
TRYING TO DO WITH THE BILL AND
04:47:27.897 --> 04:47:28.631
CERTAINLY WE WANT TO TRY TO
04:47:28.698 --> 04:47:30.299
SUPPORT OUR OUR FOSTER USED --
04:47:30.366 --> 04:47:32.068
TO WHO.
04:47:32.134 --> 04:47:33.936
SAID BUT NO ACTUALLY MA'AM THAT
04:47:34.003 --> 04:47:35.438
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THAT
04:47:35.504 --> 04:47:35.871
WORK WITH THAT HE'S
04:47:35.938 --> 04:47:36.539
PROFESSIONALS [inaudible]
04:47:36.606 --> 04:47:38.474
ARE.
04:47:38.541 --> 04:47:40.710
I ADMIT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS --
04:47:40.776 --> 04:47:42.011
THAT THIS THAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED
04:47:42.078 --> 04:47:43.613
BY THE BOARD THAT WE RELY ON
04:47:43.679 --> 04:47:45.114
ESSENTIALLY.
04:47:45.181 --> 04:47:46.749
ADDING FEES THE LICENSEES TO
04:47:46.816 --> 04:47:49.919
FUND THESE TYPES OF THINGS --
04:47:49.986 --> 04:47:54.023
AND BECAUSE OF THERE'S A YOU
04:47:54.090 --> 04:47:55.358
KNOW AS A LICENSEE ARE.
04:47:55.424 --> 04:47:56.726
MADE BY THINK THE LICENSING FEE
04:47:56.792 --> 04:47:58.227
SHOULD PRIMARILY BE USED TO
04:47:58.294 --> 04:47:59.395
ADMINISTER.
04:47:59.462 --> 04:48:01.998
LICENSE AND BE SURE THERE'S
04:48:02.064 --> 04:48:04.066
QUALITY AND SO FORTH SO --
04:48:04.133 --> 04:48:05.268
AND THE US WHILE WE YOU KNOW
04:48:05.334 --> 04:48:07.570
HAVES -- AND
04:48:07.637 --> 04:48:08.804
AS WAS MENTIONED THERE NOW THEY
04:48:08.871 --> 04:48:11.273
ARE LOOKING AT THE VERY HAD FEE
04:48:11.340 --> 04:48:11.907
INCREASES ALLEGIANCE ADDITIONAL
04:48:11.974 --> 04:48:12.274
FEE [inaudible]
04:48:12.341 --> 04:48:15.811
THERE'S PERHAPS THE I DID THE
04:48:15.878 --> 04:48:17.213
BOARD HAS SUGGESTED AN
04:48:17.279 --> 04:48:18.748
ALTERNATIVE WAY TO TRY TO TARGET
04:48:18.814 --> 04:48:20.883
THE MONEY PERHAPS MORE TOWARD
04:48:20.950 --> 04:48:22.051
THE YOU KNOW.
04:48:22.118 --> 04:48:25.054
FORMER FOSTER USE THE WHAT
04:48:25.121 --> 04:48:27.023
ADDRESS SO.
04:48:27.089 --> 04:48:28.557
THE THE BOARD'S SUGGESTION IN
04:48:28.624 --> 04:48:30.292
LIEU OF US ACTUAL ANOTHER FEE
04:48:30.359 --> 04:48:31.594
INCREASE.
04:48:31.661 --> 04:48:32.828
AT THAT THAT.
04:48:32.895 --> 04:48:35.731
ON TOP OF WHAT THREE BEEN DONE.
04:48:35.798 --> 04:48:38.334
YES I'M I'M HAPPY TO AND IS IS
04:48:38.401 --> 04:48:40.970
FORCED FINDING A WAY TO ENSURE
04:48:41.037 --> 04:48:41.671
THAT WE'RE GETTING FORMER
04:48:41.737 --> 04:48:42.605
PROSECUTOR TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT
04:48:42.672 --> 04:48:44.473
AND AND I I DO UNDERSTAND THAT
04:48:44.540 --> 04:48:45.107
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
04:48:45.174 --> 04:48:45.808
COMMUNITIES.
04:48:45.875 --> 04:48:48.310
OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE VERY
04:48:48.377 --> 04:48:50.246
WORTHY OF THIS KIND OF HELP IF
04:48:50.312 --> 04:48:52.148
YOU KNOW MY HISTORY LEGISLATURE
04:48:52.214 --> 04:48:53.783
AND EVEN BEFORE THAT.
04:48:53.849 --> 04:48:55.117
I AM EXPRESSLY TRY TO HELP
04:48:55.184 --> 04:48:56.719
FORMER FOSTER.
04:48:56.786 --> 04:48:59.021
SO CREATING A SUB FUND TO TAX
04:48:59.088 --> 04:49:00.923
AND MAKE SOME SENSE BUT IF THERE
04:49:00.990 --> 04:49:02.658
ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO THAT I'M
04:49:02.725 --> 04:49:03.759
ABSOLUTELY OPEN TO IT AND
04:49:03.826 --> 04:49:04.994
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
04:49:05.061 --> 04:49:05.861
AS TO THE FEES IN THIS IS BEEN A
04:49:05.928 --> 04:49:09.498
BIT OF A WORK THROUGH THIS
04:49:09.565 --> 04:49:11.133
BECAUSE WE WE ARE ADDING A FEE.
04:49:11.200 --> 04:49:12.735
AND THAT WOULD NOT BE MY
04:49:12.802 --> 04:49:14.704
PREFERENCE IF WE CAN GET AROUND
04:49:14.770 --> 04:49:16.072
THAT AND FOR TO WE DON'T HAVE
04:49:16.138 --> 04:49:17.740
ALWAYS HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS.
04:49:17.807 --> 04:49:19.875
AND IN TALKING WITH THE SPONSORS
04:49:19.942 --> 04:49:21.243
IN TALKING WITH THE DIFFERENT
04:49:21.310 --> 04:49:22.511
STAKEHOLDERS AND THERE'S SOME
04:49:22.578 --> 04:49:24.146
ACTUALLY O. ALSO EXPLORING.
04:49:24.213 --> 04:49:25.948
OTHER WAYS INSTEAD OF A FEE THAT
04:49:26.015 --> 04:49:27.316
WE CAN PUT MONEY INTO THIS
04:49:27.383 --> 04:49:29.552
PROGRAM OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND
04:49:29.618 --> 04:49:31.153
OR OUT OF SOME OTHER PROCESS.
04:49:31.220 --> 04:49:32.388
THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE US THE
04:49:32.455 --> 04:49:34.323
ABILITY TO EXPAND THE REACH OF
04:49:34.390 --> 04:49:35.124
THE PROGRAM.
04:49:35.191 --> 04:49:37.560
EVEN MORE KIDS WHO WANT TO GET
04:49:37.626 --> 04:49:39.562
INTO OR MORE INDIVIDUALS LIKE.
04:49:39.628 --> 04:49:40.463
GET THAT MAKE UP THE YOUNG FOLKS
04:49:40.529 --> 04:49:41.630
GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS BUT
04:49:41.697 --> 04:49:43.499
THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS KIDS.
04:49:43.566 --> 04:49:46.068
BUT MORE WHO ARE WORTHY AND NEED
04:49:46.135 --> 04:49:47.436
THE HELP WE COULD EXPAND THE
04:49:47.503 --> 04:49:49.705
PROGRAM EVEN MORE SO AS WE MOVE
04:49:49.772 --> 04:49:51.607
THIS BILL.
04:49:51.674 --> 04:49:53.809
LOOKING FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES
04:49:53.876 --> 04:49:56.078
TO FIND WAYS TO FUND THIS RATHER
04:49:56.145 --> 04:49:57.012
THAN IMPOSING A FEE AT THIS
04:49:57.079 --> 04:49:58.914
POINT THE FEE IS TWO DOLLARS AND
04:49:58.981 --> 04:49:59.749
FIFTY CENTS A YEAR.
04:49:59.815 --> 04:50:01.817
IT'S A LOT IT'S A BIG INCREASE
04:50:01.884 --> 04:50:02.384
GIVEN THE INCREASE THAT WAS
04:50:02.451 --> 04:50:03.652
THERE.
04:50:03.719 --> 04:50:05.688
IN EXISTENCE BUT SINCE WE ARE
04:50:05.755 --> 04:50:07.089
TRYING TO TARGET FOR PRESIDENT
04:50:07.156 --> 04:50:08.190
OF FIND A WAY TO GET THESE
04:50:08.257 --> 04:50:09.225
GRANTS TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
04:50:09.291 --> 04:50:16.699
THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE IT'S
04:50:16.766 --> 04:50:18.567
AN ADDITIONAL FIVE DOLLARS ON
04:50:18.634 --> 04:50:20.002
THE TWO FIFTY IT'S NO IT'S
04:50:20.069 --> 04:50:21.670
ADDITIONAL FIVE DOLLARS BY
04:50:21.737 --> 04:50:23.873
ANNUALLY SO IT'S TO TWO FIFTY
04:50:23.939 --> 04:50:25.007
BECAUSE THEY GRAY BIGELOW FOR
04:50:25.074 --> 04:50:26.242
THE LICENSE EVERY TWO YEARS
04:50:26.308 --> 04:50:27.643
THREE YEARS I SEE.
04:50:27.710 --> 04:50:29.645
MY DOC GOODEN.
04:50:29.712 --> 04:50:30.646
COULDN'T JUSTIFY THAT IN THE IN
04:50:30.713 --> 04:50:31.480
THE END IT WOULD BE MY
04:50:31.547 --> 04:50:32.782
PREFERENCE TO NOT INCREASE THE
04:50:32.848 --> 04:50:34.583
LICENSE FEE WE I'M NOT SURE THAT
04:50:34.650 --> 04:50:35.584
WE HAVE MUCH OTHER FLEXIBILITY
04:50:35.651 --> 04:50:37.353
AND BUT IF WE CAN COME UP WITH
04:50:37.419 --> 04:50:38.487
ANOTHER FUNDING.
04:50:38.554 --> 04:50:39.522
SOURCE FOR THIS WHICH WE'RE
04:50:39.588 --> 04:50:40.856
GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON
04:50:40.923 --> 04:50:42.358
OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR SO TO SEE
04:50:42.424 --> 04:50:43.826
IF WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB.
04:50:43.893 --> 04:50:45.294
WITH FINDING SOME MONEY OR
04:50:45.361 --> 04:50:46.829
COMING UP WITH A STRATEGY TO DO
04:50:46.896 --> 04:50:48.464
THAT THAN ABSOLUTELY.
04:50:48.531 --> 04:50:49.565
WE WERE KIND OF WORKING ON THIS
04:50:49.632 --> 04:50:50.766
THROUGHOUT MOST OF THIS YEAR
04:50:50.833 --> 04:50:51.066
[inaudible]
04:50:51.133 --> 04:50:52.735
APPRECIATE ANY.
04:50:52.802 --> 04:50:53.869
WE WERE JUST ON THE FLORA AND
04:50:53.936 --> 04:50:55.471
NOW YOU HAVE BEEN AS WELL THAT
04:50:55.538 --> 04:50:56.238
HE ON THE BUDGET.
04:50:56.305 --> 04:50:58.941
AND WE HAVE TO MAKE PRIORITIES --
04:50:59.008 --> 04:51:00.609
I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WERE.
04:51:00.676 --> 04:51:01.577
SICKLY TURNING THE LICENSEES THE
04:51:01.644 --> 04:51:04.146
FUND --
04:51:04.213 --> 04:51:06.916
THESE ISSUES I MEAN TO US AND WE
04:51:06.982 --> 04:51:08.651
JUST RECENTLY REYES DOUBLE
04:51:08.717 --> 04:51:10.653
PORTION THE FEE ACTUALLY AT HOME
04:51:10.719 --> 04:51:12.188
WITH THE CURRENT FEE RIGHT NOW.
04:51:12.254 --> 04:51:14.023
THE CURRENT FEE FOR THE FUND
04:51:14.089 --> 04:51:15.457
THIS PARTICULAR GRANT PROGRAM
04:51:15.524 --> 04:51:17.626
THE CURRENT TOTAL VITAL FEET
04:51:17.693 --> 04:51:18.594
LATER LICENSE A YEAR TOTAL
04:51:18.661 --> 04:51:21.430
LICENSE IT DEPENDS ON WHICH
04:51:21.497 --> 04:51:22.731
LICENSE TYPE IT IS [inaudible]
04:51:22.798 --> 04:51:25.267
TERM [inaudible]
04:51:25.334 --> 04:51:27.369
SO.
04:51:27.436 --> 04:51:28.838
CURRENTLY WELL I'M ALL GIVE YOU
04:51:28.904 --> 04:51:30.906
THE AS OF JULY ONE TWENTY
04:51:30.973 --> 04:51:31.807
EIGHTEEN NEXT MONTH ON FOR
04:51:31.874 --> 04:51:33.843
ELEMENT HE'S ITS ONE FIFTY BY
04:51:33.909 --> 04:51:34.844
ENDING ONLY --
04:51:34.910 --> 04:51:36.779
LCSW IS ONE TWENTY BY ANNUALLY
04:51:36.846 --> 04:51:38.781
AND LPC SEES A HUNDRED NINETY
04:51:38.848 --> 04:51:39.348
FIVE BY ANNUALLY [inaudible]
04:51:39.415 --> 04:51:41.350
SO [inaudible]
04:51:41.417 --> 04:51:42.751
THANK YOU.
04:51:42.818 --> 04:51:43.419
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF THE OTHER
04:51:43.485 --> 04:51:45.387
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
04:51:45.454 --> 04:51:47.056
I MEAN AND WHICH I IN I THINK
04:51:47.122 --> 04:51:48.490
THIS IS THE OF IT YOU KNOW THERE
04:51:48.557 --> 04:51:49.925
MAY BE OTHER SOURCES AVAILABLE
04:51:49.992 --> 04:51:51.527
THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT AND AND
04:51:51.594 --> 04:51:54.830
AND ATTACHING IN UTILIZED BUT I
04:51:54.897 --> 04:51:56.465
I THINK THERE'S THE SIGNIFICANCE
04:51:56.532 --> 04:51:58.434
OF THIS FOR THIS POPULATION IS.
04:51:58.500 --> 04:52:00.135
IS CRUCIAL AND THAT WE WE SO
04:52:00.202 --> 04:52:01.604
QUICKLY FORGET THAT --
04:52:01.670 --> 04:52:05.074
WHEN MOST OF US ARE? 99% OF US
04:52:05.140 --> 04:52:06.308
TURN.
04:52:06.375 --> 04:52:07.409
EIGHTEEN WE HAVE SUCH A SUPPORT
04:52:07.476 --> 04:52:08.844
SYSTEM WITH US THE CONTINUES AND
04:52:08.911 --> 04:52:10.679
THESE.
04:52:10.746 --> 04:52:12.948
INDIVIDUALS HAVE NOT AND SO.
04:52:13.015 --> 04:52:14.116
WHATEVER WE CAN DO AND I THINK
04:52:14.183 --> 04:52:15.851
THIS IS A A SMALL PART THAT WE
04:52:15.918 --> 04:52:17.219
CAN ADD TO THAT TO WHICH I TO
04:52:17.286 --> 04:52:19.521
CLOSE ASSEMBLY MEMBER THANK YOU
04:52:19.588 --> 04:52:20.322
CENTER ALL TAKE THAT IS MICHAEL.
04:52:20.389 --> 04:52:22.424
GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH --
04:52:22.491 --> 04:52:22.591
IS.
04:52:22.658 --> 04:52:24.760
HAPPY TO A MOTION BY SENATOR
04:52:24.827 --> 04:52:25.060
DODD PLEASE.
04:52:25.127 --> 04:52:27.529
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
04:52:27.596 --> 04:52:30.833
MACINNES DO PASS AS AMENDED
04:52:30.900 --> 04:52:31.734
YOU I'M FULLER.
04:52:31.800 --> 04:52:33.936
ALAN.
04:52:34.003 --> 04:52:35.004
ALLEN I DONT.
04:52:35.070 --> 04:52:36.338
DODD AYE GALGIANI.
04:52:36.405 --> 04:52:38.040
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
04:52:38.107 --> 04:52:39.842
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ.
04:52:39.909 --> 04:52:41.844
HERNANDEZ AYE PAN [inaudible]
04:52:41.911 --> 04:52:50.886
WILK [inaudible] SIX SIX VOTES
04:52:50.953 --> 04:52:51.754
WILL HOLD THE ROPE.
04:52:51.820 --> 04:52:55.491
MEMBERS THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOU.
04:52:55.557 --> 04:52:57.593
ASSEMBLYMEMBER RODRIGUEZ I SEE
04:52:57.660 --> 04:52:58.227
YOU'VE SITTING OVER THER THANK
04:52:58.294 --> 04:53:00.863
YOU. FOR YOUR PATIENCE ALL DAY.
04:53:00.930 --> 04:53:03.032
WE'RE MOVING OUT ITEM NUMBER
04:53:03.098 --> 04:53:09.171
EIGHT AB.
04:53:09.238 --> 04:53:09.705
NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT GOOD
04:53:09.772 --> 04:53:12.441
EFFORT GOOD EVENING.
04:53:12.508 --> 04:53:13.842
THEY MISTER CHAIRMAN BURST OUT
04:53:13.909 --> 04:53:15.377
WITH THAT I WANT TO BEGIN BY
04:53:15.444 --> 04:53:17.012
ACCEPTING AMENDMENTS AS DETAILED
04:53:17.079 --> 04:53:18.580
ANALYSIS.
04:53:18.647 --> 04:53:19.281
AND THANK COMMITTEE STAFF
04:53:19.348 --> 04:53:21.016
INSTEAD OF STAKEHOLDERS FOR THE
04:53:21.083 --> 04:53:22.518
WORK ON THE BILL.
04:53:22.584 --> 04:53:24.253
AND TWENTY SIXTEEN CALIFORNIA
04:53:24.320 --> 04:53:25.788
SAW OVER TWO THOUSAND OPIOID
04:53:25.854 --> 04:53:28.657
OVERDOSE DEATHS AND NEARLY.
04:53:28.724 --> 04:53:29.258
FOUR THOUSAND EMERGENCY ROOM
04:53:29.325 --> 04:53:31.460
VISITS FOR OPEN ORG OVERDOSES.
04:53:31.527 --> 04:53:32.861
ALARMINGLY IN THE STATE OF FORTY
04:53:32.928 --> 04:53:34.430
MILLION PEOPLE THERE WERE TWENTY
04:53:34.496 --> 04:53:34.930
FOUR MILLION OPEN YOUR
04:53:34.997 --> 04:53:37.633
PRESCRIPTIONS AND TWENTY SIXTEEN
04:53:37.700 --> 04:53:39.234
TO ADDRESS THIS A. B. NINETEEN
04:53:39.301 --> 04:53:40.135
NINETY EIGHT WILL REQUIRE EVERY
04:53:40.202 --> 04:53:41.470
HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONER.
04:53:41.537 --> 04:53:42.838
AUTHORIZED TO PRESCRIBE OPIATES
04:53:42.905 --> 04:53:45.541
ADOPT A SAFE PRESCRIBING POLICY.
04:53:45.607 --> 04:53:46.942
WHAT THE GOAL OF REDUCING
04:53:47.009 --> 04:53:47.810
UNNECESSARY UP YOUR
04:53:47.876 --> 04:53:50.012
PRESCRIPTIONS?
04:53:50.079 --> 04:53:50.946
PROTOCOLS WERE ADDRESSED
04:53:51.013 --> 04:53:52.748
RECOMMENDED DOSE AND DURATION
04:53:52.815 --> 04:53:54.049
FOR PATIENTS EXPERT EXPERIENCE
04:53:54.116 --> 04:53:55.417
IN ACUTE PAIN.
04:53:55.484 --> 04:53:57.119
ALTERNATIVE TREATMENTS REFERRAL
04:53:57.186 --> 04:53:58.687
GUIDELINES BETWEEN PRIMARY AND
04:53:58.754 --> 04:54:00.089
SPECIALTY CARE.
04:54:00.155 --> 04:54:01.023
AND PATIENT EDUCATION ON THE
04:54:01.090 --> 04:54:03.125
RISK OF OPIOIDS.
04:54:03.192 --> 04:54:04.159
THE CITY.
04:54:04.226 --> 04:54:05.894
PRESCRIBING POLICIES WERE NOT
04:54:05.961 --> 04:54:07.963
APPLIED TO PATIENTS WITH CHRONIC
04:54:08.030 --> 04:54:10.532
PAIN CANCER SICKLE CELL DISEASE
04:54:10.599 --> 04:54:12.067
OR NEED OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE
04:54:12.134 --> 04:54:12.334
TREATMENT.
04:54:12.401 --> 04:54:14.570
HOSPICE PUBLIC OF CARE OR END OF
04:54:14.636 --> 04:54:16.305
LIFE CARE.
04:54:16.372 --> 04:54:17.006
I'VE WORKED HARD WITH THE
04:54:17.072 --> 04:54:18.007
PROVIDE ACCURATE AND OPPOSITION
04:54:18.073 --> 04:54:20.075
GROUPS THE FIGHT IN APPROACH
04:54:20.142 --> 04:54:21.844
THAT DOES NOT PLACE AN UNDUE
04:54:21.910 --> 04:54:22.878
BURDEN.
04:54:22.945 --> 04:54:24.380
ON PROVIDERS WHILE ALSO
04:54:24.446 --> 04:54:26.115
ENCOURAGE THEM REFLECT ON THE
04:54:26.181 --> 04:54:28.083
PRESCRIBING PRACTICES.
04:54:28.150 --> 04:54:30.019
STARTING IN TWENTY TEN CARDS A
04:54:30.085 --> 04:54:31.787
TOOK ON A SIMILAR APPROACH AND
04:54:31.854 --> 04:54:33.522
SAW SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
04:54:33.589 --> 04:54:34.890
AND REDUCTIONS IN THE WAY THEY
04:54:34.957 --> 04:54:36.692
PRESCRIBE OPIOID.
04:54:36.759 --> 04:54:38.127
AB NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT IS
04:54:38.193 --> 04:54:39.728
INSPIRED BY THAT EFFORT WITH ME
04:54:39.795 --> 04:54:41.797
TODAY IN SUPPORT SHERRY DELI
04:54:41.864 --> 04:54:43.565
FROM THE CALIFORNIA CONSORTIUM.
04:54:43.632 --> 04:54:44.933
OF ADDICTION PROGRAMS AND
04:54:45.000 --> 04:54:46.635
PROFESSIONALS AS WELL AS DAVID
04:54:46.702 --> 04:54:47.736
GONZALEZ WHO REPRESENTS
04:54:47.803 --> 04:54:49.204
AMERICA'S POSITION GROUPS
04:54:49.271 --> 04:54:49.505
[inaudible]
04:54:49.571 --> 04:54:49.838
IT [inaudible]
04:54:49.905 --> 04:54:52.574
PLEASE ARE WILL TEAR MEMBERSHIP
04:54:52.641 --> 04:54:53.876
IDEA WAS CALIFORNIA CONSORTIUM
04:54:53.942 --> 04:54:54.943
OF ADDICTION PROGRAMS AND
04:54:55.010 --> 04:54:57.346
PROFESSIONALS WE REPRESENT OVER
04:54:57.413 --> 04:54:57.980
TWENTY THOUSAND DICTION FOCUSED
04:54:58.047 --> 04:54:59.281
PROFESSIONALS.
04:54:59.348 --> 04:55:00.883
AND FIVE HUNDRED I TREATMENT
04:55:00.949 --> 04:55:02.284
CENTERS AND OF STABILITY
04:55:02.351 --> 04:55:03.652
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
04:55:03.719 --> 04:55:05.187
TYPICALLY WHAT OUR ORGANIZATION
04:55:05.254 --> 04:55:06.555
DOESN'T BECOME INVOLVED IN WHAT
04:55:06.622 --> 04:55:08.924
WE CALL SUPPLY SIDE UP POLICY
04:55:08.991 --> 04:55:10.826
REGARDING AND DRUG ADDICTION.
04:55:10.893 --> 04:55:12.294
BUT IN THIS CASE UNDER THE
04:55:12.361 --> 04:55:13.328
LEADERSHIP OF A SOMEONE
04:55:13.395 --> 04:55:14.663
RODRIGUEZ WE FOR THEIR VERY
04:55:14.730 --> 04:55:16.365
STRONG PREVENTION MEASURES BUILT
04:55:16.432 --> 04:55:17.399
INTO THE BILL --
04:55:17.466 --> 04:55:18.767
WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE
04:55:18.834 --> 04:55:20.469
PATIENTS WHO --
04:55:20.536 --> 04:55:23.472
COME TO US WHO HAVE FROM THE
04:55:23.539 --> 04:55:25.407
POSSIBILITY THAT THEY MAY HAVE
04:55:25.474 --> 04:55:26.041
THE CHRONIC BRAIN DISORDER OF
04:55:26.108 --> 04:55:26.742
DICTION.
04:55:26.809 --> 04:55:28.377
BY NOT --
04:55:28.444 --> 04:55:29.745
USING SUBSTANCES THAT THEY KNOW
04:55:29.812 --> 04:55:31.747
ARE ADDICTIVE SUCH AS ALCOHOL OR
04:55:31.814 --> 04:55:33.549
TOBACCO AND IT SEEMS SOMEWHAT
04:55:33.615 --> 04:55:34.550
SURPRISED WHEN THEY BECOME
04:55:34.616 --> 04:55:35.451
ADDICTED --
04:55:35.517 --> 04:55:36.452
TO MEDICINES THAT THEY GET FROM
04:55:36.518 --> 04:55:37.786
THEIR DOCTORS.
04:55:37.853 --> 04:55:39.755
SO THAT THE PARTS OF THE BILL
04:55:39.822 --> 04:55:41.423
THAT ASKS THAT PATIENTS BE
04:55:41.490 --> 04:55:43.625
INFORMED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY
04:55:43.692 --> 04:55:44.793
OF OVERDOSE.
04:55:44.860 --> 04:55:46.595
AND THE RISKS FOR ADDICTION ARE
04:55:46.662 --> 04:55:47.996
TERRIFIC THERE IS ALSO A A
04:55:48.063 --> 04:55:50.265
POLICY THAT REQUIRES THAT AT
04:55:50.332 --> 04:55:52.067
RISK FACTORS BE EVALUATED FOR
04:55:52.134 --> 04:55:52.634
ADDICTION.
04:55:52.701 --> 04:55:54.336
AND JUST LET ME LEAVE YOU WITH
04:55:54.403 --> 04:55:56.138
SOME URGENCY TO THIS --
04:55:56.205 --> 04:55:57.940
THESE ARE JUST MEDICINES THAT
04:55:58.006 --> 04:55:59.675
THAT REMAIN IN YOUR CABINET AND
04:55:59.741 --> 04:56:01.076
MIGHT BE GOOD FOR SPRING ANKLE
04:56:01.143 --> 04:56:04.279
SOMETIME THEIR DEADLY AND LETHAL
04:56:04.346 --> 04:56:04.646
FOR COMMUNITIES.
04:56:04.713 --> 04:56:05.747
ODD.
04:56:05.814 --> 04:56:07.149
AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE SAVAGE
04:56:07.216 --> 04:56:09.518
FAMILY MY CAN BECKY FOR
04:56:09.585 --> 04:56:11.520
WONDERFUL HEALTHY YOUNG --
04:56:11.587 --> 04:56:14.089
BOYS AND THEIR FAMILY OF HOCKEY
04:56:14.156 --> 04:56:16.458
PLAYERS ARE GOOD STUDENTS --
04:56:16.525 --> 04:56:18.393
THREE YEARS AGO ON FRIDAY THEIR
04:56:18.460 --> 04:56:20.963
TWO OLDEST NECK AND JACK WENT TO
04:56:21.029 --> 04:56:22.631
A CELEBRATION OF GRADUATION.
04:56:22.698 --> 04:56:24.466
CAME HOME CHECKED IN WITH MAMA
04:56:24.533 --> 04:56:25.234
TWELVE THIRTY WENT TO BED THE
04:56:25.300 --> 04:56:26.568
NEXT MORNING MOM DURING THE
04:56:26.635 --> 04:56:27.803
RITUAL THAT MANY OF US DO WENT
04:56:27.870 --> 04:56:29.371
UPSTAIRS TO GET THE LAUNDRY
04:56:29.438 --> 04:56:30.339
TOGETHER.
04:56:30.405 --> 04:56:32.875
SON WAS UNRESPONSIVE CALLS EMTS
04:56:32.941 --> 04:56:34.977
THEY FRANTICALLY TRIED TO RESCUE
04:56:35.043 --> 04:56:37.179
HER SON JACK HALF OF THEM LEAVE
04:56:37.246 --> 04:56:38.447
TO GO DOWNSTAIRS THE BASEMENT OR
04:56:38.514 --> 04:56:39.948
SON NICK HAS ALSO BECOME
04:56:40.015 --> 04:56:41.116
UNRESPONSIVE.
04:56:41.183 --> 04:56:42.384
THE TWO OF THEM DIED FROM A
04:56:42.451 --> 04:56:44.653
COMBINATION OF ALCOHOL AND MARCO.
04:56:44.720 --> 04:56:45.888
WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS
04:56:45.954 --> 04:56:46.955
WE CAN LIMIT HOW MUCH OF THIS
04:56:47.022 --> 04:56:48.657
MEDICATION IS OUT THERE.
04:56:48.724 --> 04:56:51.026
pTHINK THIS AMONG FIRST
04:56:51.093 --> 04:56:52.528
LEADERSHIP IN THIS AREA THANK
04:56:52.594 --> 04:56:54.796
YOU VERY MUCH OTHER WITNESSES IN
04:56:54.863 --> 04:56:55.697
SUPPORT RECEIVED DEATH THANK YOU
04:56:55.764 --> 04:56:56.532
MISTER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
04:56:56.598 --> 04:56:58.167
DAVID GONZALEZ ON BEHALF OF A
04:56:58.233 --> 04:56:59.768
PGA AMERICA'S POSITION GROUPS.
04:56:59.835 --> 04:57:00.769
ARE PROVIDERS OPERATE IN SOME
04:57:00.836 --> 04:57:03.972
THREE HUNDRED MEDICAL COUNTRY OF
04:57:04.039 --> 04:57:05.307
FORTY FOUR STATES DISTRICT
04:57:05.374 --> 04:57:06.608
COLUMBIA AS WELL AS PART OF RICO.
04:57:06.675 --> 04:57:08.544
OUR HAPPY TO BE HERE IN SUPPORT
04:57:08.610 --> 04:57:09.678
OF THIS BEEN A GOOD JOURNEY FOR
04:57:09.745 --> 04:57:10.812
US WE ACTUALLY HAD OPPOSE
04:57:10.879 --> 04:57:11.780
POSITION ON THE FIRST THE
04:57:11.847 --> 04:57:13.081
INTEGRATION OF THE BILL.
04:57:13.148 --> 04:57:13.882
WHEN I THINK THE AUTHOR IN A
04:57:13.949 --> 04:57:15.050
STAFF WORKING WITH OUR PROVIDER
04:57:15.117 --> 04:57:16.885
COMMUNITY HAS COME TO A
04:57:16.952 --> 04:57:18.487
DIFFERENT DIRECTION THE IN THE
04:57:18.554 --> 04:57:19.221
POLICY THAT WE THINK WE CAN
04:57:19.288 --> 04:57:20.088
SUPPORT?
04:57:20.155 --> 04:57:21.423
RAPID BEYOND SUPPORT FOR IN
04:57:21.490 --> 04:57:22.391
ADDRESSING THIS IMPORTANT PUBLIC
04:57:22.457 --> 04:57:24.660
HEALTH ISSUE --
04:57:24.726 --> 04:57:26.662
AS THE AS THE AUTHOR KNOWS WHICH
04:57:26.728 --> 04:57:27.563
AS ON THE PROVIDERS HAVE
04:57:27.629 --> 04:57:28.430
RETURNED TO STRIKE THIS THIS
04:57:28.497 --> 04:57:30.432
DELICATE BALANCE OF LATRINES
04:57:30.499 --> 04:57:31.433
PATIENT POPULATION THAT USUALLY
04:57:31.500 --> 04:57:31.934
HAS SOME.
04:57:32.000 --> 04:57:34.169
COMORBIDITIES VERY Q. PAIN THAT
04:57:34.236 --> 04:57:35.070
WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS AND
04:57:35.137 --> 04:57:36.371
SAMETIME WE DON'T PUT THEM ON A
04:57:36.438 --> 04:57:38.006
PATH TOWARDS BUT LEFT LIFELONG
04:57:38.073 --> 04:57:38.774
ADDICTION AS WELL.
04:57:38.840 --> 04:57:40.375
SO WE THINK ASIDE THIS APPROACH
04:57:40.442 --> 04:57:41.877
IS IS THAT STRIKES THAT BALLOTS
04:57:41.944 --> 04:57:43.545
WERE HAPPY SUPPORTIVE UNHAPPY
04:57:43.612 --> 04:57:45.013
CONTINUE WORK WITH THE AUTHOR
04:57:45.080 --> 04:57:45.681
DON'T THANK YOU FOR IS HIS WORK
04:57:45.747 --> 04:57:46.815
IN THIS AREA.
04:57:46.882 --> 04:57:50.052
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OTHERS IN
04:57:50.118 --> 04:57:51.353
SUPPORT PLEASE COME FORWARD.
04:57:51.420 --> 04:57:51.987
YOU KNOW WHEN IS THERE ANYONE
04:57:52.054 --> 04:58:00.596
HERE IN OPPOSITION [inaudible]
04:58:00.662 --> 04:58:08.136
PLEASE [inaudible]
04:58:08.203 --> 04:58:10.339
IT'S PRETTY.
04:58:10.405 --> 04:58:10.906
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
04:58:10.973 --> 04:58:11.640
MEMBERS MAKE IT ALRIGHT ON
04:58:11.707 --> 04:58:12.574
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
04:58:12.641 --> 04:58:14.776
ASSOCIATION WHILE OUR COUNCIL
04:58:14.843 --> 04:58:16.411
HAS NOT OFFICIALLY VOTED ON A
04:58:16.478 --> 04:58:17.546
POSITION CHANGE IT HAS BEEN
04:58:17.613 --> 04:58:18.981
STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THEY
04:58:19.047 --> 04:58:20.649
REMOVE OPPOSITION TO THE BILL
04:58:20.716 --> 04:58:22.384
THANKS TO ALL OF THE WORK.
04:58:22.451 --> 04:58:23.285
THAT THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER OF
04:58:23.352 --> 04:58:25.087
STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS HAVE DONE
04:58:25.153 --> 04:58:26.255
ON THIS BILL.
04:58:26.321 --> 04:58:28.156
LATIN WE'VE BEEN WORKING SINCE
04:58:28.223 --> 04:58:30.225
THE VERY FIRST POLICY COMMITTEE
04:58:30.292 --> 04:58:31.627
TO GET TOGETHER SOMETHING WHERE
04:58:31.693 --> 04:58:33.662
OUR PHYSICIANS COULD.
04:58:33.729 --> 04:58:36.031
COMPLY AND STILL BE ABLE TO
04:58:36.098 --> 04:58:36.565
PROVIDE THE BEST TREATMENT
04:58:36.632 --> 04:58:37.966
POSSIBLE.
04:58:38.033 --> 04:58:39.167
AND ALSO BE.
04:58:39.234 --> 04:58:40.702
I FEEL SAFE IN THEIR PRESCRIBING
04:58:40.769 --> 04:58:42.137
AND THAT THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS
04:58:42.204 --> 04:58:44.139
NOT JUST AN OPEN ENDED LIABILITY
04:58:44.206 --> 04:58:44.906
WE THINK THAT THE AUTHOR HAS
04:58:44.973 --> 04:58:45.607
DONE.
04:58:45.674 --> 04:58:46.842
I'M A LOT AND MOVED A LOT ON
04:58:46.908 --> 04:58:49.511
THIS BILL.
04:58:49.578 --> 04:58:51.079
WE LOOK FOR TO CONTINUE WORKING
04:58:51.146 --> 04:58:51.647
IF THERE'S ANYTHING STILL TO
04:58:51.713 --> 04:58:53.949
WORK OUT BUT APPRECIATE ALL
04:58:54.016 --> 04:58:54.750
THAT'S BEEN DONE AND WILL
04:58:54.816 --> 04:58:55.050
[inaudible]
04:58:55.117 --> 04:58:56.752
I'M.
04:58:56.818 --> 04:58:58.320
PUBLIC WOULD BE REMOVING
04:58:58.387 --> 04:59:00.656
OPPOSITION SHORTLY VERY MUCH IF
04:59:00.722 --> 04:59:01.156
YOU.
04:59:01.223 --> 04:59:02.391
MISTER CHAIRMAN MARSTON MATTING
04:59:02.457 --> 04:59:04.259
REPRESENT CALIFORNIA CHAPTER OF
04:59:04.326 --> 04:59:04.760
THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF
04:59:04.826 --> 04:59:06.428
EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS AND THAT
04:59:06.495 --> 04:59:07.896
WE'RE RESPECTFULLY STILL OPPOSE
04:59:07.963 --> 04:59:08.964
THE BILL.
04:59:09.031 --> 04:59:09.831
WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK
04:59:09.898 --> 04:59:11.166
MISTER RODRIGUEZ AND PARTICULAR
04:59:11.233 --> 04:59:12.534
IS A STAFF FOR ALL THE TIME THEY
04:59:12.601 --> 04:59:13.869
FORBID US AND TALKING TO OUR
04:59:13.935 --> 04:59:15.070
CONCERNS.
04:59:15.137 --> 04:59:16.905
ON NEED IT AND TALKING WITH
04:59:16.972 --> 04:59:18.140
THEIR OWN MEMBERSHIP THIS --
04:59:18.206 --> 04:59:19.975
A LEAD TO SOME VERY ROBUST
04:59:20.042 --> 04:59:21.476
CONVERSATIONS IN TERMS OF HOW DO
04:59:21.543 --> 04:59:22.511
WE WRESTLE WITH THE OPIOID
04:59:22.577 --> 04:59:24.279
EPIDEMIC THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
04:59:24.346 --> 04:59:26.315
IN ANY KIND OF WHAT I TOOK FROM
04:59:26.381 --> 04:59:27.683
LISTENING TO EMERGENCY
04:59:27.749 --> 04:59:28.550
PHYSICIANS THAT POINTS TO THE
04:59:28.617 --> 04:59:30.852
CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO
04:59:30.919 --> 04:59:31.386
LEGISLATE THE PRACTICE OF
04:59:31.453 --> 04:59:32.754
MEDICINE.
04:59:32.821 --> 04:59:34.122
AND PARTICULARLY IN MARIN SEE
04:59:34.189 --> 04:59:35.924
DEPARTMENT IN WHEN WE LOOK AT
04:59:35.991 --> 04:59:37.926
WHAT THE PARAMETERS WOULD BE FOR
04:59:37.993 --> 04:59:39.494
A POLICY IN TERMS OF WHAT'S
04:59:39.561 --> 04:59:40.762
REQUIRED TO BE APART OF IT.
04:59:40.829 --> 04:59:42.931
ON IN PARTICULAR ONE REQUIREMENT
04:59:42.998 --> 04:59:46.001
IS TO HAVE A SPECIFIC DOSE AND
04:59:46.068 --> 04:59:48.904
DURATION FOR TREATING ACUTE PAIN.
04:59:48.970 --> 04:59:49.971
NOW DURATION IS SOMETHING THAT
04:59:50.038 --> 04:59:51.239
THAT IS ADDRESSED IN A NUMBER
04:59:51.306 --> 04:59:52.374
DIFFERENT POLICIES AND
04:59:52.441 --> 04:59:53.575
GUIDELINES THAT ARE OUT THERE
04:59:53.642 --> 04:59:55.043
BIG DOSES.
04:59:55.110 --> 04:59:57.512
NINE AND HOW WE APPROACH --
04:59:57.579 --> 04:59:59.247
ASSIGNING IT DOES FOR A PATIENT
04:59:59.314 --> 05:00:00.449
THAT MIGHT BE TWENTY FIVE YEARS
05:00:00.515 --> 05:00:02.084
OLD IN PERFECTLY GOOD HEALTH IS
05:00:02.150 --> 05:00:02.984
VERY DIFFERENT.
05:00:03.051 --> 05:00:04.152
THAN A PATIENT WHO MIGHT BE
05:00:04.219 --> 05:00:06.021
SEVENTIES --
05:00:06.088 --> 05:00:07.522
TO AND HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER CO
05:00:07.589 --> 05:00:09.991
MORBIDITIES SO HOW DO WE CREATE
05:00:10.058 --> 05:00:12.227
A GUIDELINE THAT PROPERLY
05:00:12.294 --> 05:00:13.495
ADDRESSES THE DOES FOR EACH OF
05:00:13.562 --> 05:00:14.596
THOSE SITUATIONS HAS ONE OF THE
05:00:14.663 --> 05:00:17.499
CHALLENGES.
05:00:17.566 --> 05:00:20.635
WANTS TO THING OUTSIDE OF THE
05:00:20.702 --> 05:00:22.237
POLICY THAT THEY CAN DO THAT AND
05:00:22.304 --> 05:00:23.305
THE COLONEL LEADS TO OUR SECOND
05:00:23.372 --> 05:00:24.840
POINT WHICH WAS REYES LAST WEEK
05:00:24.906 --> 05:00:27.509
WHEN DISCUSSING AB.
05:00:27.576 --> 05:00:28.043
TWENTY SEVEN FORTY ONE THE
05:00:28.110 --> 05:00:29.177
LANGUAGE IN THE BILL SAYS THAT
05:00:29.244 --> 05:00:30.245
IS LONG AS A PRACTITIONER
05:00:30.312 --> 05:00:32.481
PROVIDES ADEQUATE DOCUMENTATION
05:00:32.547 --> 05:00:34.249
THEY CAN PRESCRIBE OUTSIDE OF
05:00:34.316 --> 05:00:36.385
WHAT THE POLICY THE STYLISH.
05:00:36.451 --> 05:00:38.387
BUT IT COMES BACK TO DOCTOR PAN
05:00:38.453 --> 05:00:39.921
RAISE A QUESTION LAST WEEK OF
05:00:39.988 --> 05:00:41.957
WHAT IS ADEQUATE DOCUMENTATION
05:00:42.023 --> 05:00:43.692
HOW DO WE KNOW FOR SURE WHAT
05:00:43.759 --> 05:00:44.926
WE'RE PUTTING IN THERE IS
05:00:44.993 --> 05:00:45.894
SOMETHING THAT WHEN THE MEDICAL
05:00:45.961 --> 05:00:46.928
BOARD LOOKSAT IT THEY ARE GOING
05:00:46.995 --> 05:00:48.563
TO COME AFTER US OUR FOLKS GET
05:00:48.630 --> 05:00:49.664
REALLY NERVOUS.
05:00:49.731 --> 05:00:51.199
WHEN WE SEE THERE IS SOME
05:00:51.266 --> 05:00:53.135
PATHWAY FOR A POSITION TO BE
05:00:53.201 --> 05:00:54.770
SUBJECT TO SANCTIONS BY THE
05:00:54.836 --> 05:00:56.238
MEDICAL BOARD WITHOUT A A
05:00:56.304 --> 05:00:57.706
DEFINITION OF WHAT ADEQUATE
05:00:57.773 --> 05:00:59.541
DOCUMENTATION IS?
05:00:59.608 --> 05:01:01.143
I'M A LITTLE MORE DETAILS ON THE
05:01:01.209 --> 05:01:03.545
THE AMENDMENTS THAT JUST TAR IN
05:01:03.612 --> 05:01:05.680
THE MOCK UP AS RELATES TO US
05:01:05.747 --> 05:01:07.215
WERE IN HERE.
05:01:07.282 --> 05:01:08.650
THEIR REQUIREMENT ON FOR MINOR
05:01:08.717 --> 05:01:09.818
CITY FROM HOSTILE ASSOCIATIONS
05:01:09.885 --> 05:01:11.820
AMENDMENTS IS THAT A HOSPITAL
05:01:11.887 --> 05:01:13.155
PHARMACY AND THERAPEUTICS
05:01:13.221 --> 05:01:14.256
COMMITTEE WOULD DEVELOP OUR
05:01:14.322 --> 05:01:15.457
GUIDELINES.
05:01:15.524 --> 05:01:17.459
IN JUST THE QUICK FEEDBACK WE'VE
05:01:17.526 --> 05:01:19.394
GOTTEN FROM THAT IS THAT.
05:01:19.461 --> 05:01:20.362
WE'RE WORRIED THAT IT MIGHT BE A
05:01:20.429 --> 05:01:21.830
LITTLE BIT TOO BROAD OF A
05:01:21.897 --> 05:01:23.465
COMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP
05:01:23.532 --> 05:01:24.766
POLICIES SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
05:01:24.833 --> 05:01:25.767
MERCY DEPARTMENT.
05:01:25.834 --> 05:01:27.269
SUCH SUGGESTION CAME FROM OUR
05:01:27.335 --> 05:01:28.703
SIDE WAS IS THAT THERE IS A WAY
05:01:28.770 --> 05:01:29.771
TO DEVELOP.
05:01:29.838 --> 05:01:31.206
PACIFIC POLICIES FOR THE
05:01:31.273 --> 05:01:32.641
DEPARTMENT HOW YOU TREAT A
05:01:32.707 --> 05:01:34.109
PATIENT IN THE MERCY DEPARTMENT
05:01:34.176 --> 05:01:35.177
WILL BE DIFFERENT HOW YOU TREAT
05:01:35.243 --> 05:01:37.179
THEM AND THE ICY YOU SEE SEE YOU.
05:01:37.245 --> 05:01:38.513
AND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN
05:01:38.580 --> 05:01:40.615
THE HOSPITAL SO I JUST WANT OF
05:01:40.682 --> 05:01:42.083
ENFORCEMENT PROVIDE YOU THE
05:01:42.150 --> 05:01:42.951
PERSPECTIVE AS WE'RE TALKING
05:01:43.018 --> 05:01:44.553
COMMITTEE --
05:01:44.619 --> 05:01:45.987
IN THE AND LASTLY AT THE END IS
05:01:46.054 --> 05:01:47.355
MORE OF A TECHNICAL NOTE AS IT
05:01:47.422 --> 05:01:48.657
RELATES TO THE PENALTIES IN THE
05:01:48.723 --> 05:01:50.125
BILL THAT IT STILL REFLECTS
05:01:50.192 --> 05:01:51.460
PUTTING PENALTIES ON HEALTHCARE
05:01:51.526 --> 05:01:52.461
PRACTITIONER.
05:01:52.527 --> 05:01:53.628
BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT EMERGENCY
05:01:53.695 --> 05:01:54.830
PHYSICIAN DOESN'T DEVELOP THEIR
05:01:54.896 --> 05:01:56.565
OWN POLICY THEY'RE SUBJECT TO
05:01:56.631 --> 05:01:58.266
THE HOSPITAL PHARMACY AND
05:01:58.333 --> 05:01:59.634
THERAPEUTICS POLICY.
05:01:59.701 --> 05:02:02.971
ARM IT'S NOT CLEAR HOW OR IF
05:02:03.038 --> 05:02:03.705
THOSE PENALTIES SHOULD BE
05:02:03.772 --> 05:02:05.140
EXTENDED TO THE HOSPITAL
05:02:05.207 --> 05:02:05.440
[inaudible]
05:02:05.507 --> 05:02:08.109
SO I THOSE ARE WERE RAT ON THE
05:02:08.176 --> 05:02:09.845
BILL WE WE WOULD LIKE TO
05:02:09.911 --> 05:02:11.680
CONTINUE TALKING WITH THE AUTHOR
05:02:11.746 --> 05:02:13.448
THINK WE'VE AS WE CONVERSATIONS.
05:02:13.515 --> 05:02:14.749
BUT IN FORCING THIS PERSONAL
05:02:14.816 --> 05:02:16.685
POST RIDICULOUS MET OTHERS IT'S
05:02:16.751 --> 05:02:18.320
IN OPPOSITION.
05:02:18.386 --> 05:02:19.955
I MEAN NO ONE BACK TO THE
05:02:20.021 --> 05:02:22.491
COMMITTEE.
05:02:22.557 --> 05:02:24.292
FOR QUESTION YES DOCTOR DR GRANT.
05:02:24.359 --> 05:02:25.527
I THANK YOU --
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AND SEVERAL YEARS APPRECIATE ALL
05:02:29.297 --> 05:02:31.199
YOU WORK ON ON THE BILL --
05:02:31.266 --> 05:02:35.270
IT IN TERMS OF THE THE POLICY --
05:02:35.337 --> 05:02:36.271
TO SOMEONE WHO'S WORKED ON
05:02:36.338 --> 05:02:38.106
CLINICAL PRACTICE GUIDELINES YOU
05:02:38.173 --> 05:02:39.174
KNOW HOW --
05:02:39.241 --> 05:02:42.143
CHALLENGING --
05:02:42.210 --> 05:02:42.978
CAN BE TO PUT TOGETHER
05:02:43.044 --> 05:02:44.412
GUIDELINES AND ACTUALLY I WOULD
05:02:44.479 --> 05:02:46.281
SAY THAT THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES
05:02:46.348 --> 05:02:48.250
IS THAT --
05:02:48.316 --> 05:02:50.519
IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED EXCEPTIONS.
05:02:50.585 --> 05:02:53.021
RIGHT IT'S THE GOOD BECAUSE WHAT
05:02:53.088 --> 05:02:54.256
HAPPENS IS THAT YOU KNOW PRIDE
05:02:54.322 --> 05:02:55.957
CAN YOU MIGHT FEEL IF IT 90% OF
05:02:56.024 --> 05:02:57.959
PEOPLE INTO THE STANDARD BOX.
05:02:58.026 --> 05:02:59.761
THE EXCEPTIONS RIGHT THAT THE
05:02:59.828 --> 05:03:01.696
PEOPLE DON'T QUITE FIT IN.
05:03:01.763 --> 05:03:04.032
AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THE
05:03:04.099 --> 05:03:06.167
CARE THAT THEY NEED SO AND AND
05:03:06.234 --> 05:03:08.737
IN TERMS OF THE POLICY AND I
05:03:08.803 --> 05:03:10.238
THINK TO SOME REFERENCE WAS MADE
05:03:10.305 --> 05:03:12.340
BY THE MERCY POSITIONS ABOUT.
05:03:12.407 --> 05:03:13.775
HOW HOW SPECIFIC [inaudible]
05:03:13.842 --> 05:03:15.310
THIS THIS.
05:03:15.377 --> 05:03:17.479
POLICY HAVE TO BE IN TERMS OF I
05:03:17.546 --> 05:03:19.648
MEAN SO DOSING OBVIOUSLY FOR A
05:03:19.714 --> 05:03:21.182
FEATURE XIN DEPENDS ON THE KIDS
05:03:21.249 --> 05:03:22.384
WAY RIGHT --
05:03:22.450 --> 05:03:23.852
DEPENDS ON THE CONDITION
05:03:23.919 --> 05:03:25.053
OBVIOUSLY SEVERITY THAT.
05:03:25.120 --> 05:03:26.087
ETCETERA.
05:03:26.154 --> 05:03:28.123
AND SO I JUST.
05:03:28.189 --> 05:03:30.225
MY CLEAR FIVE WHEN YOU SAFE AND
05:03:30.292 --> 05:03:32.394
ACCEPTABLE POLICY UNDER YOUR
05:03:32.460 --> 05:03:35.964
BILL THAT BECOMES LAW.
05:03:36.031 --> 05:03:38.166
HOUSE SPECIFIC ARE GENERAL CAN
05:03:38.233 --> 05:03:41.236
IT BE TO TO BASICALLY WHILE --
05:03:41.303 --> 05:03:42.437
YOU KNOW THE POSITION TO
05:03:42.504 --> 05:03:43.939
EXERCISE THE PROPER PROFESSIONAL
05:03:44.005 --> 05:03:47.008
JUDGMENT WITHOUT BEING SENSUALLY.
05:03:47.075 --> 05:03:48.710
STRAIGHT JACKETED INTO
05:03:48.777 --> 05:03:49.010
[inaudible]
05:03:49.077 --> 05:03:52.814
A YEAH I THINK INTO A SET OF
05:03:52.881 --> 05:03:54.482
DECISIONS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE
05:03:54.549 --> 05:03:55.283
FOR THE PATIENT THAT'S ALWAYS A
05:03:55.350 --> 05:03:56.284
CHALLENGE.
05:03:56.351 --> 05:03:57.052
PRACTICE GUIDELINES RIGHT ITS
05:03:57.118 --> 05:03:59.054
WAY THEY HAVE VERY WELL DEFINED
05:03:59.120 --> 05:04:00.889
THE POPULATION THEY APPLY.
05:04:00.956 --> 05:04:02.023
TO WHAT WOULD THAT SITS UNDER
05:04:02.090 --> 05:04:03.158
YOUR EVERY PATIENTS DIFFERENT
05:04:03.224 --> 05:04:05.026
WHETHER YOU'RE THE CHILD OR THE
05:04:05.093 --> 05:04:05.260
DOUGH.
05:04:05.327 --> 05:04:07.128
AND EVERYBODY ARE RESPONSIVE
05:04:07.195 --> 05:04:08.730
PAYING DIFFERENTLY TO WRITE SO
05:04:08.797 --> 05:04:10.065
THIS BILL I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM
05:04:10.131 --> 05:04:11.600
THE FLEXIBILITY SEE WORKING WORK
05:04:11.666 --> 05:04:12.300
WITH.
05:04:12.367 --> 05:04:13.868
BUT THE BIG GOALS ULTIMATELY
05:04:13.935 --> 05:04:15.704
REDUCING OUR THE PRESCRPTION
05:04:15.770 --> 05:04:17.606
BUT REALLY IT'S NOT REALLY A
05:04:17.672 --> 05:04:18.773
WHOM I DID TELL THE DOCTOR WHAT
05:04:18.840 --> 05:04:20.175
THEY SHOULD DO RIGHT.
05:04:20.241 --> 05:04:21.109
THAT'S WHY THIS BILL ARE A
05:04:21.176 --> 05:04:22.744
REALLY CHANGE A LOT TO HEAR GET
05:04:22.811 --> 05:04:24.479
A LOT OF THE IMPORTANT FEEDBACK.
05:04:24.546 --> 05:04:25.714
NOW WILL CONTINUE STILL WORK
05:04:25.780 --> 05:04:26.548
WITH THE OTHER FOLKS IN
05:04:26.615 --> 05:04:28.984
OPPOSITION TO SEE HOW DO WE COME
05:04:29.050 --> 05:04:30.819
WITH THE AWAY WORKING COME UP.
05:04:30.885 --> 05:04:32.520
WHAT THE ULTIMATE IS TO REDUCE
05:04:32.587 --> 05:04:34.022
THE THE POOR PRESCRIPTIONS BUT
05:04:34.089 --> 05:04:35.590
YET THAT'S MAKE SURE THAT THE
05:04:35.657 --> 05:04:36.791
PUPATION THE REALLY NEED A FOR
05:04:36.858 --> 05:04:37.892
THE RIGHT REASONS?
05:04:37.959 --> 05:04:39.728
GET A FOR THE RIGHT REASON BUT
05:04:39.794 --> 05:04:40.328
THEY DON'T STAY ON IT FOREVER
05:04:40.395 --> 05:04:42.030
UNLESS IT'S FOR THE CANCERS OR
05:04:42.097 --> 05:04:44.633
THE SUPERCELLS AND OTHER
05:04:44.699 --> 05:04:45.600
DISEASES AS WELL.
05:04:45.667 --> 05:04:47.702
I GUESS WHAT I AND I UNDERSTAND
05:04:47.769 --> 05:04:49.137
SOME OF THE HEALTH COMMITTEE SO
05:04:49.204 --> 05:04:49.804
I THINK WE'LL BE TALKING WE CAN
05:04:49.871 --> 05:04:52.340
WORK WE BUT IT.
05:04:52.407 --> 05:04:55.410
SO I I JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT
05:04:55.477 --> 05:04:57.746
BILLS ALSO BECOMES LAW AFFECTED
05:04:57.812 --> 05:04:59.280
LIKE WHERE IS THE THROUGH THE
05:04:59.347 --> 05:05:00.649
EXACTLY WHAT'S AN ACCEPTABLE
05:05:00.715 --> 05:05:01.616
POLICY.
05:05:01.683 --> 05:05:03.685
RIGHT FOR ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES
05:05:03.752 --> 05:05:05.153
THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE ISSUE --
05:05:05.220 --> 05:05:09.257
AND THEN HOW.
05:05:09.324 --> 05:05:11.359
HOW DETAILED OR STRAINED AS THE
05:05:11.426 --> 05:05:12.527
POLICY HAVE TO BE TO MEET WHAT
05:05:12.594 --> 05:05:14.429
WHERE THE MINIMUM Y. TO
05:05:14.496 --> 05:05:16.264
STANDARDS REQUIRED? FOR FOR
05:05:16.331 --> 05:05:17.999
FURTHER AS POLICY SO --
05:05:18.066 --> 05:05:18.299
CERTAINLY --
05:05:18.366 --> 05:05:20.568
HEALTH.
05:05:20.635 --> 05:05:22.637
MOVED THE OUTPUT TO MOVE THE
05:05:22.704 --> 05:05:24.372
BALL FORWARD BY LOOK FOR TO
05:05:24.439 --> 05:05:26.408
WORKING OUT THOSE THIS THAT WITH
05:05:26.474 --> 05:05:29.310
YOU WAS WE TRY TO MOVE FORWARD
05:05:29.377 --> 05:05:30.578
FIGURE HOW WE STRIKE THAT RIGHT
05:05:30.645 --> 05:05:32.147
BALANCE NOT.
05:05:32.213 --> 05:05:34.349
THE OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE --
05:05:34.416 --> 05:05:35.984
IN TERMS OF WHAT'S REQUIRED IN
05:05:36.051 --> 05:05:36.918
THE POLICY SO THAT YOU DON'T
05:05:36.985 --> 05:05:37.919
HAVE A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE
05:05:37.986 --> 05:05:40.388
LIKE OKAY WELL.
05:05:40.455 --> 05:05:42.023
YOU KNOW I'M GOING HAVE TO KEEP
05:05:42.090 --> 05:05:43.725
DOCUMENTS OPTIONS --
05:05:43.792 --> 05:05:45.226
ARES IT GOING TO BE CAUSING
05:05:45.293 --> 05:05:46.795
PROBLEMS BUT STILL ACHIEVING THE
05:05:46.861 --> 05:05:48.763
AND THAT YOU'RE AIMING.
05:05:48.830 --> 05:05:49.397
FOR VIRGIN AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S
05:05:49.464 --> 05:05:50.465
ALL ABOUT IT THIS CONTINUE TO
05:05:50.532 --> 05:05:51.566
WORK ON THESE ISSUES AND REALLY
05:05:51.633 --> 05:05:52.801
HER FROM THE PROFESSIONALS UP
05:05:52.867 --> 05:05:54.502
FROM MEDICAL COMMITTEE.
05:05:54.569 --> 05:05:55.336
ON HOW BEST IS CONFERRED FOR
05:05:55.403 --> 05:05:56.705
EVERYBODY AND THAT THEY DON'T
05:05:56.771 --> 05:05:58.973
FEEL CONSTRICTED LIKE.
05:05:59.040 --> 05:06:00.408
BUT AND OF COURSE WE'RE TRYING
05:06:00.475 --> 05:06:01.476
GET THE OF GOD CORRECTS ITSELF
05:06:01.543 --> 05:06:03.511
THAT'S OKAY THANK YOU.
05:06:03.578 --> 05:06:04.112
YOU DON'T DEPEND ON THE OTHER
05:06:04.179 --> 05:06:06.948
DISCUSSION A COMMON SEEN NONE OF
05:06:07.015 --> 05:06:08.450
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE HODGES
05:06:08.516 --> 05:06:10.418
RESPECT AFTER I LEARNED VERY
05:06:10.485 --> 05:06:10.985
GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS
05:06:11.052 --> 05:06:12.487
THERE A MOTION.
05:06:12.554 --> 05:06:13.521
MOTION FROM SENATOR DODD PLEASE
05:06:13.588 --> 05:06:15.323
CALL THE ROLL.
05:06:15.390 --> 05:06:17.192
QUESTION IS DO PASSED THE SENATE
05:06:17.258 --> 05:06:18.560
HEALTH COMMITTEE HELD A AYE HILL
05:06:18.626 --> 05:06:19.728
AYE FULLER.
05:06:19.794 --> 05:06:22.130
FULLER AYE ALLEN.
05:06:22.197 --> 05:06:23.865
ALLEN MY DOG IF AYE DODD AYE
05:06:23.932 --> 05:06:25.233
GALGIANI.
05:06:25.300 --> 05:06:27.168
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
05:06:27.235 --> 05:06:29.304
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
05:06:29.370 --> 05:06:31.239
AYE PAN.
05:06:31.306 --> 05:06:34.843
AYE WILK AYE WILK AYE. NINE ZERO
05:06:34.909 --> 05:06:37.011
THE BILL IS OUT INVASIONS THANK
05:06:37.078 --> 05:06:37.612
YOU VERY MUCH ASSEMBLY MEMBER
05:06:37.679 --> 05:06:38.413
CALDERON [inaudible]
05:06:38.480 --> 05:06:41.049
YOU OVER.
05:06:41.116 --> 05:06:43.118
IN THE CORNER PLEASE WERE MOVING
05:06:43.184 --> 05:06:45.820
TO ITEM NUMBER [inaudible]
05:06:45.887 --> 05:06:46.387
SIX EIGHTEEN EIGHTEEN FIFTY
05:06:46.454 --> 05:06:48.022
EIGHT WELCOME.
05:06:48.089 --> 05:06:49.290
THANK YOU SENATOR HILL AND
05:06:49.357 --> 05:06:51.860
SENATORS I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
05:06:51.926 --> 05:06:53.328
FIRST I'D LIKE TO ACCEPT
05:06:53.394 --> 05:06:54.662
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS B. THROUGH
05:06:54.729 --> 05:06:55.997
E. OF THINK THE COMMITTEE AND
05:06:56.064 --> 05:06:57.866
CHAIR FOR COMING TO AN AGREEMENT
05:06:57.932 --> 05:06:58.566
ON A MODIFIED VERSION OF A
05:06:58.633 --> 05:07:00.268
MADMAN A CURRENTLY THE FEDERAL
05:07:00.335 --> 05:07:01.336
GOVERNMENT MANDATES ALL HIGHER
05:07:01.402 --> 05:07:02.771
EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS USE THAT
05:07:02.837 --> 05:07:04.272
THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION'S
05:07:04.339 --> 05:07:05.907
FINANCIALLY SHOPPING STREET.
05:07:05.974 --> 05:07:07.408
WHEN COMMUNICATING FINANCIALLY
05:07:07.475 --> 05:07:08.843
TO VETERANS SHOPPING SHE DOES
05:07:08.910 --> 05:07:10.478
THE CONSUMER TOOL DESIGNED TO
05:07:10.545 --> 05:07:12.046
NOTIFY STUDENTS ABOUT THEIR
05:07:12.113 --> 05:07:13.615
ESTIMATED FINANCIAL AID PACKAGE
05:07:13.681 --> 05:07:15.450
AS WELL AS INFORMATION ABOUT A
05:07:15.517 --> 05:07:17.152
UNIVERSITIES GRADUATION RATES?
05:07:17.218 --> 05:07:18.920
LOAN DEFAULT RATES AND MEDIAN
05:07:18.987 --> 05:07:20.622
THE STUDENT BORROWING THIS BILL
05:07:20.688 --> 05:07:22.257
SIMPLY EXTENDS THIS MANDATE BY
05:07:22.323 --> 05:07:23.525
REQUIRING COLLEGES AND
05:07:23.591 --> 05:07:25.026
UNIVERSITIES IN CALIFORNIA TO
05:07:25.093 --> 05:07:26.427
PROVIDE THE SHOPPING SHEET.
05:07:26.494 --> 05:07:28.563
WHEN COMMUNICATING FINANCIALLY
05:07:28.630 --> 05:07:29.697
PACKAGES TO ALL STUDENTS
05:07:29.764 --> 05:07:30.832
STUDENTS NEED A UNIFORMED
05:07:30.899 --> 05:07:32.267
FINANCIALLY LETTER TO ENSURE
05:07:32.333 --> 05:07:34.035
THEIR DECISION TO ATTEND COLLEGE
05:07:34.102 --> 05:07:35.370
IS BASED ON?
05:07:35.436 --> 05:07:37.138
EASILY COMPARE OF ALL
05:07:37.205 --> 05:07:38.273
TRANSPARENT AND ACCURATE
05:07:38.339 --> 05:07:39.674
INFORMATION THIS BILL HAS
05:07:39.741 --> 05:07:41.075
RECEIVED BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND
05:07:41.142 --> 05:07:42.477
HASN'T RECEIVED ANY NO VOTES
05:07:42.544 --> 05:07:43.378
THUS FAR.
05:07:43.444 --> 05:07:44.779
PRESS REX WE ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
05:07:44.846 --> 05:07:46.347
ON AB EIGHTEEN FIFTY EIGHT WITH
05:07:46.414 --> 05:07:47.549
ME HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY IN
05:07:47.615 --> 05:07:48.750
SUPPORT IS BRANDON.
05:07:48.817 --> 05:07:50.752
BY KURT FROM V. CALIFORNIA'S TO
05:07:50.819 --> 05:07:54.122
NAY COMMISSION THROUGH THANK YOU.
05:07:54.189 --> 05:07:55.123
IT'S VERY MEMBERS FOR THE
05:07:55.190 --> 05:07:56.191
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE I'M WITH
05:07:56.257 --> 05:07:57.158
THE CALIFORNIA STUDENT AID
05:07:57.225 --> 05:07:58.493
COMMISSION AND DUE TO THE HOUR I
05:07:58.560 --> 05:07:59.861
WILL BE VERY BRIEF.
05:07:59.928 --> 05:08:01.095
HOWEVER I DO WANT TO SAY THAT
05:08:01.162 --> 05:08:02.397
THIS UNIQUE COMMISSION SUPPORTS
05:08:02.463 --> 05:08:03.531
THIS BILL BECAUSE THAT'S
05:08:03.598 --> 05:08:04.899
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF FUTURE
05:08:04.966 --> 05:08:07.035
STUDENTS EMBARK UPON WHAT IS
05:08:07.101 --> 05:08:08.703
LIKELY TO BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE
05:08:08.770 --> 05:08:09.737
AND SIGNIFICANT.
05:08:09.804 --> 05:08:11.072
CHOICE OF THEIR YOUNG LIVES THEY
05:08:11.139 --> 05:08:13.007
DESERVE TO RECEIVE CLEAR CONCISE
05:08:13.074 --> 05:08:14.375
AND CONSISTENT INFORMATION
05:08:14.442 --> 05:08:16.077
REGARDING THE COST OF ATTENDANCE
05:08:16.144 --> 05:08:17.612
AND THE FINANCIAL AID AVAILABLE
05:08:17.679 --> 05:08:18.279
TO THEM --
05:08:18.346 --> 05:08:19.647
THIS BILL DOES THAT AND
05:08:19.714 --> 05:08:21.082
THEREFORE THE CALIFORNIA'S TO
05:08:21.149 --> 05:08:21.883
NAY COMMISSION SUPPORTS IT
05:08:21.950 --> 05:08:23.484
ENCOURAGES YOU TO DO THE SAME
05:08:23.551 --> 05:08:24.385
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALLEY HAVING
05:08:24.452 --> 05:08:25.720
ANSWERING QUESTIONS I APPRECIATE
05:08:25.787 --> 05:08:27.455
THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH OTHERS
05:08:27.522 --> 05:08:28.623
IN SUPPORT.
05:08:28.690 --> 05:08:29.123
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
05:08:29.190 --> 05:08:38.132
OPPOSITION.
05:08:38.199 --> 05:08:39.167
MISTER CHAIR MEMBER SCOTT
05:08:39.234 --> 05:08:40.568
GOVERNOR BEHALF THE UNIVERSITY
05:08:40.635 --> 05:08:41.836
OF PHOENIX PERSONALLY LIKE TO
05:08:41.903 --> 05:08:42.937
THANK MISS MASON FOR HER
05:08:43.004 --> 05:08:44.272
THOROUGH ANALYSIS.
05:08:44.339 --> 05:08:45.273
AND ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS
05:08:45.340 --> 05:08:47.475
CONTAINED IN IT WOULD ALSO LIKE
05:08:47.542 --> 05:08:49.110
TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR AGREEING.
05:08:49.177 --> 05:08:50.678
TO MOST OF THEM --
05:08:50.745 --> 05:08:51.746
HAD THE ALBUM EXCEPT THROUGH
05:08:51.813 --> 05:08:53.681
REFER MOVE PROPOSITION BUT AS WE
05:08:53.748 --> 05:08:57.085
UNDERSTAND THE REVISED A WHILE
05:08:57.151 --> 05:08:59.020
CERTAINLY BETTER AND ADDRESSING
05:08:59.087 --> 05:09:00.855
A NUMBER OF OUR QUESTIONS --
05:09:00.922 --> 05:09:02.523
THERE IS STILL A FUNDAMENTAL
05:09:02.590 --> 05:09:04.092
PROBLEM WITH THE BILL.
05:09:04.158 --> 05:09:04.893
THE STUDENT AID COMMISSION
05:09:04.959 --> 05:09:06.561
ACTUALLY HA NO PURVIEW OVER
05:09:06.628 --> 05:09:07.896
MOST PRIVATE POST SECONDARY
05:09:07.962 --> 05:09:09.697
SCHOOLS IN THE STATE.
05:09:09.764 --> 05:09:10.832
WHAT THE AMENDMENTS DO IS SAY
05:09:10.899 --> 05:09:12.400
THE STUDENT AID COMMISSION SHALL
05:09:12.467 --> 05:09:15.403
DRAFT DISCLOSURE WHICH WE WHO
05:09:15.470 --> 05:09:16.838
THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER ARE
05:09:16.905 --> 05:09:19.073
OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE STUDENTS
05:09:19.140 --> 05:09:20.341
AND IF WE DON'T?
05:09:20.408 --> 05:09:21.309
WITHIN SANCTIONED BY OUR
05:09:21.376 --> 05:09:23.645
REGULATOR.
05:09:23.711 --> 05:09:24.913
THE STUDENT A COMMISSION HAS
05:09:24.979 --> 05:09:26.314
HISTORICALLY BEEN VERY HOSTILE
05:09:26.381 --> 05:09:28.283
TOWARDS OUR SECTOR WE TAKE
05:09:28.349 --> 05:09:30.251
LITTLE SOLACE IN THEIR CRAFTING
05:09:30.318 --> 05:09:31.819
A REGULATIONS.
05:09:31.886 --> 05:09:32.220
AND GIVEN THAT --
05:09:32.287 --> 05:09:35.723
THIS COMMITTEE VARIOUS BOARDS
05:09:35.790 --> 05:09:37.759
IMAGINE ONE BOARD CRAFTING
05:09:37.825 --> 05:09:40.528
DISCLOSURES FOR THOSE AUTHORIZED
05:09:40.595 --> 05:09:42.797
BY ANOTHER BOARD UP WHEN THEY
05:09:42.864 --> 05:09:44.332
DON'T NECESSARILY GO ALONG.
05:09:44.399 --> 05:09:46.534
THAT IS VERY TROUBLING FOR US I
05:09:46.601 --> 05:09:47.602
THINK IT COULD EASILY BE
05:09:47.669 --> 05:09:49.737
RESOLVED PERHAPS AGAIN WITHOUT
05:09:49.804 --> 05:09:51.272
SEEING THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE.
05:09:51.339 --> 05:09:52.707
IF OF THOSE --
05:09:52.774 --> 05:09:54.509
THE SHOPPING SHEET WERE DONE IN
05:09:54.575 --> 05:09:57.545
CONJUNCTION WITH OUR REGULATOR
05:09:57.612 --> 05:09:58.179
THE BUREAU FOR PRIVATE
05:09:58.246 --> 05:09:59.981
POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION AT LEAST
05:10:00.048 --> 05:10:02.483
THEN WE HAVE SOME SAY IN THE
05:10:02.550 --> 05:10:04.285
DRAFTING PROCESS AS IT STANDS
05:10:04.352 --> 05:10:05.153
NOW.
05:10:05.219 --> 05:10:07.055
MERCY SECTOR DRAFT THIS NEW
05:10:07.121 --> 05:10:08.823
SHOPPING SHE WOULD HAVE NO WAY
05:10:08.890 --> 05:10:10.725
OF KNOWING ABOUT IT SINCE WE ARE
05:10:10.792 --> 05:10:12.126
REGULATED BY THEM.
05:10:12.193 --> 05:10:13.795
ARM AND THAT IS PROBLEMATIC AND
05:10:13.861 --> 05:10:15.363
I THINK THAT'S RESOLVED BUT WE
05:10:15.430 --> 05:10:17.131
HAVE TO HAVE SOME.
05:10:17.198 --> 05:10:19.701
SAY IN THE PROCESS --
05:10:19.767 --> 05:10:21.135
TO ENSURE THAT WHAT COMES OUT IS
05:10:21.202 --> 05:10:23.871
BALANCED AND REASONABLE. FOR
05:10:23.938 --> 05:10:24.872
THOSE REASONS WE ARE OPPOSED
05:10:24.939 --> 05:10:25.907
THANK YOU GOVERNOR OTHERS IN
05:10:25.974 --> 05:10:28.676
OPPOSITION.
05:10:28.743 --> 05:10:30.278
SEEING NO ONE FOR YOU TO THE
05:10:30.345 --> 05:10:30.845
COMMISSION FOR I MEAN TO THE
05:10:30.912 --> 05:10:31.913
COMMITTEE.
05:10:31.980 --> 05:10:34.048
THE COMMISSION ON MY MIND.
05:10:34.115 --> 05:10:36.384
OF ANY THOUGHTS COMMENTS OR
05:10:36.451 --> 05:10:38.619
QUESTIONS MEETING.
05:10:38.686 --> 05:10:41.622
OF THE NINE WOULD YOU LIKE TO
05:10:41.689 --> 05:10:42.256
CLOSE.
05:10:42.323 --> 05:10:44.158
I APPRECIATE THAT.
05:10:44.225 --> 05:10:44.993
TIME OF THE COMMITTEE AND I
05:10:45.059 --> 05:10:45.827
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
05:10:45.893 --> 05:10:47.595
TONIGHT I WILL STAY COMMITTED AS
05:10:47.662 --> 05:10:48.229
I HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
05:10:48.296 --> 05:10:49.364
THE OPPOSITE.
05:10:49.430 --> 05:10:51.065
IT A NEWER AND AND I APPRECIATE
05:10:51.132 --> 05:10:52.400
THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU TOOK
05:10:52.467 --> 05:10:54.736
THAT I THINK MADE INTO A LOT OF
05:10:54.802 --> 05:10:55.536
PERHAPS.
05:10:55.603 --> 05:10:56.604
THERE MAY BE SOME IN IT I THINK
05:10:56.671 --> 05:10:57.572
THIS GOES TO EDUCATION AFTER
05:10:57.638 --> 05:10:58.272
THIS.
05:10:58.339 --> 05:10:59.040
AND THERE MAY BE SOME
05:10:59.107 --> 05:11:01.509
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIRTY TWO
05:11:01.576 --> 05:11:02.110
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
05:11:02.176 --> 05:11:02.643
FOR TAKING.
05:11:02.710 --> 05:11:04.879
OF IS OUR MOTION.
05:11:04.946 --> 05:11:06.381
MOTION BY A SENATOR FERNANDES A
05:11:06.447 --> 05:11:08.149
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
05:11:08.216 --> 05:11:09.517
SENATE TO PASS THE SENATE
05:11:09.584 --> 05:11:10.918
EDUCATION COMMITTEE HEALTH AYE
05:11:10.985 --> 05:11:12.720
HILL AYE FULLER [inaudible]
05:11:12.787 --> 05:11:14.455
ALAN.
05:11:14.522 --> 05:11:15.723
WHEN I DODD?
05:11:15.790 --> 05:11:17.658
DODD AYE GALGIANI.
05:11:17.725 --> 05:11:19.427
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
05:11:19.494 --> 05:11:20.862
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ.
05:11:20.928 --> 05:11:22.964
HERNANDEZ AYE PAN.
05:11:23.031 --> 05:11:29.470
I'D AN AYE WILK AYE BOOK AYE.
05:11:29.537 --> 05:11:30.171
EIGHT EIGHT ZERO IN THAT BILL IS
05:11:30.238 --> 05:11:30.638
OUT.
05:11:30.705 --> 05:11:35.209
THANK YOU VERY MUCH [inaudible]
05:11:35.276 --> 05:11:38.312
ASSEMBLYMEMBER CHEN.
05:11:38.379 --> 05:11:38.880
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE
05:11:38.946 --> 05:11:41.883
TONIGHT. FOR TIME SORRY.
05:11:41.949 --> 05:11:43.618
NECESSARY.
05:11:43.684 --> 05:11:44.919
HELLO TO BILLS.
05:11:44.986 --> 05:11:46.287
OVER MOVING.
05:11:46.354 --> 05:11:50.425
TO ITEM NUMBER TWENTY FOUR AB
05:11:50.491 --> 05:11:50.992
TWENTY SIX FIFTY SIX VEHICLE
05:11:51.059 --> 05:11:53.661
TOWING AND STORAGE.
05:11:53.728 --> 05:11:55.930
MR MEMBERS AT THANK YOU FOR TIME
05:11:55.997 --> 05:11:57.665
AB TWENTY SIX FIFTY SIX WOULD
05:11:57.732 --> 05:11:59.333
ADD DEBIT CARDS AS A METHOD OF
05:11:59.400 --> 05:12:00.301
PAYMENT.
05:12:00.368 --> 05:12:01.469
THAT VEHICLE STORAGE FACILITIES
05:12:01.536 --> 05:12:03.504
MUST ACCEPT WHAT PAYMENT OF THE
05:12:03.571 --> 05:12:04.705
STORAGE OF THE VEHICLE.
05:12:04.772 --> 05:12:05.373
THERE MANY CAGES WHEN
05:12:05.440 --> 05:12:06.674
INDIVIDUALS ONLY HAVE A DEBIT
05:12:06.741 --> 05:12:07.942
CARD BUT THE STORAGE FACILITY
05:12:08.009 --> 05:12:09.577
REFUSES TO ACCEPT THIS METHOD OF
05:12:09.644 --> 05:12:10.311
PAYMENT.
05:12:10.378 --> 05:12:12.213
AB TWENTY SIX FIFTY SIX WOULD
05:12:12.280 --> 05:12:13.548
PROVIDE A PROCESS TO FAIRLY AND
05:12:13.614 --> 05:12:15.216
REASONABLY EXPECT RECOVERY OF
05:12:15.283 --> 05:12:16.617
VEHICLES.
05:12:16.684 --> 05:12:18.019
HERE TO TESTIFY R. JR DOES
05:12:18.086 --> 05:12:19.620
MINUTE JOE COLLINS OF THE
05:12:19.687 --> 05:12:20.988
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
05:12:21.055 --> 05:12:22.256
LICENSE REPOSSESS OURS
05:12:22.323 --> 05:12:22.557
[inaudible]
05:12:22.623 --> 05:12:25.593
THE COMMISSION [inaudible]
05:12:25.660 --> 05:12:27.528
BERRYHILL.
05:12:27.595 --> 05:12:29.363
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR
05:12:29.430 --> 05:12:32.133
RHOADS DIED AND I THINK WE CAN
05:12:32.200 --> 05:12:33.301
PROBABLY LEAVE IT AT THAT.
05:12:33.367 --> 05:12:36.404
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF ANY
05:12:36.471 --> 05:12:37.472
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IN NONE
05:12:37.538 --> 05:12:39.006
MOTION PRESENTED I WOULD LIKE TO
05:12:39.073 --> 05:12:39.874
CLOSE.
05:12:39.941 --> 05:12:41.876
REFERENCE AFTER I'VE THANK YOU
05:12:41.943 --> 05:12:44.045
VERY MUCH WE CALL THE ROLL.
05:12:44.112 --> 05:12:45.580
AND AS YOU PASS THE SENATE
05:12:45.646 --> 05:12:46.747
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HELD BY
05:12:46.814 --> 05:12:48.049
AYE FULLER.
05:12:48.116 --> 05:12:50.084
FULLER AYE ALLEN.
05:12:50.151 --> 05:12:51.919
ALLEN AYE DODD I THOUGHT I
05:12:51.986 --> 05:12:53.054
GALGIANI.
05:12:53.121 --> 05:12:54.856
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
05:12:54.922 --> 05:12:56.624
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
05:12:56.691 --> 05:12:59.393
AYE PAN AYE PAN AYE WILK.
05:12:59.460 --> 05:13:01.729
BOOK I ZERO NINE ZERO THE BILLS
05:13:01.796 --> 05:13:01.896
OUT.
05:13:01.963 --> 05:13:06.134
CONGRATULATIONS.
05:13:06.200 --> 05:13:07.368
THE FACT THAT YOU WERE HERE MADE
05:13:07.435 --> 05:13:09.637
A BIG THAT DECISION ASSEMBLY
05:13:09.704 --> 05:13:09.971
MEMBER WOULD.
05:13:10.037 --> 05:13:15.243
WELCOME.
05:13:15.309 --> 05:13:17.411
NOW WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT I THE
05:13:17.478 --> 05:13:20.014
WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWENTY
05:13:20.081 --> 05:13:21.616
SIX AB.
05:13:21.682 --> 05:13:22.683
TWENTY SEVEN SIXTY VERY MUCH
05:13:22.750 --> 05:13:24.051
SEVENTY MISTER CHAIRMAN SENATORS.
05:13:24.118 --> 05:13:25.953
AB TWENTY SEVEN SIXTY IS A BILL
05:13:26.020 --> 05:13:27.288
DESIGNED TO DO ONE SIMPLE THING
05:13:27.355 --> 05:13:28.623
SAVE LIVES NALOXONE
05:13:28.689 --> 05:13:30.024
HYDROCHLORIDE IS AN OPIOID
05:13:30.091 --> 05:13:31.959
ANTAGONISTIC TO ACT IMMEDIATELY
05:13:32.026 --> 05:13:33.227
TO REVERSE THE EFFECTS OF
05:13:33.294 --> 05:13:34.695
OVERDOSE.
05:13:34.762 --> 05:13:36.297
AB TWENTY SEVEN SIXTY HAS
05:13:36.364 --> 05:13:36.931
PROPOSED WOULD REQUIRE
05:13:36.998 --> 05:13:38.166
HEALTHCARE PRESCRIBERS WHEN
05:13:38.232 --> 05:13:40.568
ISSUING OPIATE PRESCRIPTION TO
05:13:40.635 --> 05:13:42.270
TALK TO AT RISK PATIENTS. TO ADD
05:13:42.336 --> 05:13:43.404
TO AT RISK PATIENTS TO ALSO
05:13:43.471 --> 05:13:46.641
OFFER A NALOXONE OR OTHER OPIOID
05:13:46.707 --> 05:13:48.442
ANTAGONISE PERFECT PRESCRIPTION
05:13:48.509 --> 05:13:49.977
ROSS REQUIRES A* PRESCRIBED
05:13:50.044 --> 05:13:51.312
TO EDUCATE THE PATIENT OTHER
05:13:51.379 --> 05:13:52.847
INDIVIDUALS DESIGNATED BY THE
05:13:52.914 --> 05:13:54.215
PATIENT ON ITS PURPOSE AND HOW
05:13:54.282 --> 05:13:55.316
TO USE IT.
05:13:55.383 --> 05:13:56.317
ISSUING A WATSON CHO
05:13:56.384 --> 05:13:57.852
PRESCRIPTIONS FOR AT LEAST FOR
05:13:57.919 --> 05:13:59.587
AT RISK THAT PATIENCE IS NOT
05:13:59.654 --> 05:14:01.422
CONTROVERSY AT LEAST TWELVE
05:14:01.489 --> 05:14:02.356
NATIONAL HEALTH.
05:14:02.423 --> 05:14:03.624
OR MEDICAL ORGANIZATIONS
05:14:03.691 --> 05:14:05.626
INCLUDING THE CDC AND MAY AND
05:14:05.693 --> 05:14:06.794
THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF
05:14:06.861 --> 05:14:08.496
ADDICTION MEDICINE RECOMMEND A
05:14:08.563 --> 05:14:10.431
NOT NALOXONE CHO PRESCRIPTION
05:14:10.498 --> 05:14:11.766
FOR AT RISK PATIENTS.
05:14:11.832 --> 05:14:13.067
CO PRESCRIBING THE LOCKS ON
05:14:13.134 --> 05:14:14.368
SHOULD AT LEAST IT SHOULD SHOULD
05:14:14.435 --> 05:14:16.938
BE AT AS A BEST PRACTICE.
05:14:17.004 --> 05:14:17.939
HOWEVER RECENT RESEARCH HAS
05:14:18.005 --> 05:14:19.106
SHOWN THE GUIDELINES AND
05:14:19.173 --> 05:14:20.841
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT HAVING
05:14:20.908 --> 05:14:22.743
THE DESIRED RESULT LITTLE OR NO
05:14:22.810 --> 05:14:24.111
CHANGE IN THE INCIDENCE OF CO
05:14:24.178 --> 05:14:25.313
PRESCRIBING.
05:14:25.379 --> 05:14:26.347
IT IN THOSE STATES WERE COAST
05:14:26.414 --> 05:14:28.049
PRESCRIBE IS ALREADY MANDATED
05:14:28.115 --> 05:14:29.784
THE INCIDENCE OF CO PRESCRIPTION
05:14:29.850 --> 05:14:31.252
HAS RISEN DRAMATICALLY.
05:14:31.319 --> 05:14:32.420
VIRGINIA WITH A FULL MANDATE TO
05:14:32.486 --> 05:14:34.355
PRESCRIBE WENT FROM ONE KNOCKED
05:14:34.422 --> 05:14:36.724
THE LOCKS ON PRESCRIPTION TO FOR
05:14:36.791 --> 05:14:37.225
THIRTEEN HUNDRED OPIOID
05:14:37.291 --> 05:14:39.627
PRESCRIPTIONS TO ONE PER FORTY
05:14:39.694 --> 05:14:40.695
FOUR BEFORE FINALLY LIVING UP
05:14:40.761 --> 05:14:43.464
LEVELING OFF AT ONE FOR TWENTY
05:14:43.531 --> 05:14:44.131
ONE TWENTY FIVE STILL FOUR TIMES
05:14:44.198 --> 05:14:45.666
THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
05:14:45.733 --> 05:14:47.134
IN APRIL THE US SURGEON GENERAL
05:14:47.201 --> 05:14:48.769
JEROME ADAMS WEIGHED IN ON THIS
05:14:48.836 --> 05:14:50.338
ISSUE AND IN THE FIRST NATIONAL
05:14:50.404 --> 05:14:51.505
ADVISER ISSUED BY A SURGEON
05:14:51.572 --> 05:14:54.275
GENERAL SINCE TWO THOUSAND AND
05:14:54.342 --> 05:14:55.509
FIVE EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF
05:14:55.576 --> 05:14:56.877
THE OVERDOSE RICHTER REVERSING
05:14:56.944 --> 05:14:58.346
DRUG NALOXONE.
05:14:58.412 --> 05:14:58.980
HE STATED THAT KNOWING HOW TO
05:14:59.046 --> 05:15:00.214
USE THE LOCKS ON KEEPING IT
05:15:00.281 --> 05:15:01.716
WITHIN REACH AND SAVE A LIFE
05:15:01.782 --> 05:15:02.583
PARTICULARLY FOR PATIENTS AT
05:15:02.650 --> 05:15:03.918
HIGH RISK.
05:15:03.985 --> 05:15:04.885
HERE TODAY TO SPEAK MORE
05:15:04.952 --> 05:15:06.621
ELOQUENTLY THAN I ON THE
05:15:06.687 --> 05:15:07.521
BENEFITS THE LOCKS ON THE
05:15:07.588 --> 05:15:08.856
IMPORTANCE OF ITS AVAILABILITY
05:15:08.923 --> 05:15:10.057
AS AMY DUNKLE.
05:15:10.124 --> 05:15:11.525
THE FOUNDER OF THE SALAS
05:15:11.592 --> 05:15:13.227
FOUNDATION OF ORANGE COUNTY
05:15:13.294 --> 05:15:13.527
[inaudible]
05:15:13.594 --> 05:15:14.428
GOOD [inaudible]
05:15:14.495 --> 05:15:18.299
WELCOME. FIVE YEARS AGO I LOST
05:15:18.366 --> 05:15:19.667
MY TWENTY YEAR OLD SON TO AN
05:15:19.734 --> 05:15:21.202
ACCIDENTAL OVERDOSE THEN WAS
05:15:21.269 --> 05:15:22.703
FIRST DESCRIBED OPIATES AT THE
05:15:22.770 --> 05:15:24.505
AGE OF THIRTEEN FOLLOWING A
05:15:24.572 --> 05:15:26.274
MINOR FRACTURE TO ISLAM.
05:15:26.340 --> 05:15:27.775
FURTHER INCREASE FOLLOWED AND
05:15:27.842 --> 05:15:29.677
MORE PRESCRIPTIONS FOR OPIOIDS.
05:15:29.744 --> 05:15:31.178
BY THE AGE OF NINETEEN BEN WAS
05:15:31.245 --> 05:15:33.714
PHYSICALLY DEPENDS NAM OPIOIDS
05:15:33.781 --> 05:15:34.749
WHEN HE COULD NO LONGER GET
05:15:34.815 --> 05:15:35.983
PRESCRIPTIONS FOR PAIN PILLS THE
05:15:36.050 --> 05:15:38.085
SWITCH TO HEROIN.
05:15:38.152 --> 05:15:39.353
INITIAL SHORT LIFESPAN WAS
05:15:39.420 --> 05:15:41.822
PRESCRIBED NUMEROUS MEDICATIONS
05:15:41.889 --> 05:15:43.324
FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES BUT
05:15:43.391 --> 05:15:45.026
DESPITE SEVERAL OVERDOSES NEVER
05:15:45.092 --> 05:15:46.927
ONCE WAS THE ONE MEDICATION THE
05:15:46.994 --> 05:15:48.996
COULD OF SAVED HIS LIFE NALOXONE
05:15:49.063 --> 05:15:50.364
EVER DISCUSSED OR PRESCRIBED FOR
05:15:50.431 --> 05:15:51.866
HIM.
05:15:51.932 --> 05:15:53.467
BEN WAS SUFFERING FROM A CHRONIC
05:15:53.534 --> 05:15:54.468
RECURRENT DISORDER OF BRAIN
05:15:54.535 --> 05:15:56.003
STRUCTURE AND FUNCTION HE WAS
05:15:56.070 --> 05:15:57.938
DESPERATELY ILL.
05:15:58.005 --> 05:15:59.740
IN OCTOBER TWO THOUSAND AND
05:15:59.807 --> 05:16:00.775
TWELVE FOLLOWING FIFTY FOUR DAYS
05:16:00.841 --> 05:16:02.510
IN A TREATMENT FACILITY BEN
05:16:02.576 --> 05:16:03.844
RELAPSED AND OVERDOSED.
05:16:03.911 --> 05:16:05.212
HIS WITH THREE INDIVIDUALS AT
05:16:05.279 --> 05:16:06.947
THE TIME OF HIS OVERDOSE BEND
05:16:07.014 --> 05:16:08.382
SUSTAINED A CATASTROPHIC BRAIN
05:16:08.449 --> 05:16:09.950
INJURY WAS PLACED ON LIFE
05:16:10.017 --> 05:16:11.485
SUPPORT.
05:16:11.552 --> 05:16:13.154
HE WAS IN A COMA UNABLE TO
05:16:13.220 --> 05:16:15.489
BREATHE TO SEEK TO TALK TO MOVE
05:16:15.556 --> 05:16:16.691
BUT HE COULD STILL HEAR AND
05:16:16.757 --> 05:16:18.492
TEARS WOULD ROLL DOWN THE SIDE
05:16:18.559 --> 05:16:20.494
OF HIS FACE WHEN WE SPOKE TO HIM.
05:16:20.561 --> 05:16:22.430
ON OCTOBER THE EIGHTEEN TWO
05:16:22.496 --> 05:16:23.197
THOUSAND AND TWELVE AND WAS
05:16:23.264 --> 05:16:24.899
TAKEN OFF LIFE SUPPORT.
05:16:24.965 --> 05:16:26.200
HIS SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD BROTHER
05:16:26.267 --> 05:16:27.868
LAY NEXT TO HIM AND HELD HIM FOR
05:16:27.935 --> 05:16:29.270
THE SIX HOURS IT TOOK THE BAND
05:16:29.337 --> 05:16:31.005
TO TAKE HIS FINAL BREATH.
05:16:31.072 --> 05:16:32.006
HIS DEATH WAS ENTIRELY
05:16:32.073 --> 05:16:33.507
PREVENTABLE.
05:16:33.574 --> 05:16:35.042
BUT JUST ONE OF THE THREE PEOPLE
05:16:35.109 --> 05:16:36.577
WHO WITH BEN CARRIED NALOXONE HE
05:16:36.644 --> 05:16:38.579
WOULD HAVE LIVED.
05:16:38.646 --> 05:16:39.980
IN JUNE TWO THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN
05:16:40.047 --> 05:16:41.515
AS A TRIBUTE TO OUR SON I
05:16:41.582 --> 05:16:42.883
FOUNDED THE SOLIS FOUNDATION
05:16:42.950 --> 05:16:45.586
UNLOCKS AND DISTRIBUTION PROGRAM.
05:16:45.653 --> 05:16:48.255
TO DATE WE'VE RECORDED ONE
05:16:48.322 --> 05:16:48.889
THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED OVERDOSE
05:16:48.956 --> 05:16:51.158
REVERSALS IN ORANGE COUNTY USING
05:16:51.225 --> 05:16:52.893
THE LOCK SO WE DISTRIBUTED.
05:16:52.960 --> 05:16:54.095
IN THREE YEARS WE'VE COLLECTED
05:16:54.161 --> 05:16:56.864
SOME TRULY REMARKABLE STORIES OF
05:16:56.931 --> 05:16:58.366
LIVES SAVED WITHIN LAKSA.
05:16:58.432 --> 05:16:59.533
THEY INCLUDE STORIES FROM
05:16:59.600 --> 05:17:00.735
MOTHERS FATHERS BROTHERS AND
05:17:00.801 --> 05:17:04.205
SISTERS FAMILY SET FAMILY SAFE
05:17:04.271 --> 05:17:05.673
FROM THE HEARTBREAK THAT BRINGS
05:17:05.740 --> 05:17:07.908
ME BEFORE YOU TODAY.
05:17:07.975 --> 05:17:09.276
FROM FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE I CAN
05:17:09.343 --> 05:17:10.778
SHARE WITH YOU JUST HOW EASY IT
05:17:10.845 --> 05:17:12.613
IS TO SAVE A LIFE.
05:17:12.680 --> 05:17:14.348
IT'S WEEKS AGO A TWENTY FOUR
05:17:14.415 --> 05:17:15.916
YEAR OLD MALE CLAPS JUST YARDS
05:17:15.983 --> 05:17:18.452
FROM ME I RUN STRAIGHT TO HIM.
05:17:18.519 --> 05:17:19.954
HIS FACE WAS BLUE HIS EYES
05:17:20.020 --> 05:17:21.522
ROLLED IN THE BACK OF HIS HEAD
05:17:21.589 --> 05:17:22.556
AND HIS UPPER BODY AND TIDY
05:17:22.623 --> 05:17:24.158
STEPH.
05:17:24.225 --> 05:17:25.693
THE STIFFNESS OF HIS UPPER BODY
05:17:25.760 --> 05:17:27.261
IS UNKNOWN MANIFESTATION OF
05:17:27.328 --> 05:17:28.996
FENTANYL TOXICITY AND MADE
05:17:29.063 --> 05:17:30.231
RESCUE BREATHING ABSOLUTELY
05:17:30.297 --> 05:17:31.298
IMPOSSIBLE.
05:17:31.365 --> 05:17:33.467
HE WAS DYING.
05:17:33.534 --> 05:17:35.102
I'D MINISTER NALOXONE AND WHICH
05:17:35.169 --> 05:17:36.470
WE WATCH THIS YOUNG MAN COME
05:17:36.537 --> 05:17:37.905
BACK TO LIFE.
05:17:37.972 --> 05:17:39.073
WITHOUT THIS TIME THE
05:17:39.140 --> 05:17:40.975
ADMINISTRATION OF LIFESAVING
05:17:41.041 --> 05:17:42.910
MEDICATION LOCKS AND HE HAD NO
05:17:42.977 --> 05:17:44.879
CHANCE OF SURVIVAL HE LIVED
05:17:44.945 --> 05:17:47.114
BECAUSE OF NALOXONE. FOR THESE
05:17:47.181 --> 05:17:48.883
REASONS I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY
05:17:48.949 --> 05:17:52.019
IN FULL SUPPORT OF ASSEMBLY BILL.
05:17:52.086 --> 05:17:52.620
TWENTY SEVEN SIXTY THIS BILL
05:17:52.686 --> 05:17:53.754
WITH WILL WITHOUT DOUBT SAVE
05:17:53.821 --> 05:17:55.489
LIVES AND PREVENT OTHER FAMILIES
05:17:55.556 --> 05:17:57.191
FROM SUFFERING SUCH UNIMAGINABLE
05:17:57.258 --> 05:17:59.059
LOSS THANK YOU.
05:17:59.126 --> 05:18:01.262
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:18:01.328 --> 05:18:02.596
LINDA AWAY WITH WESTERN CENTER
05:18:02.663 --> 05:18:04.565
ON LAW AND POVERTY IN SUPPORT OF
05:18:04.632 --> 05:18:05.533
INCREASING ACCESS TO THIS
05:18:05.599 --> 05:18:06.667
LIFESAVING DRUGS [inaudible]
05:18:06.734 --> 05:18:08.769
THANK YOU.
05:18:08.836 --> 05:18:09.937
BETSEY ARMSTRONG WITH THE COUNTY
05:18:10.004 --> 05:18:10.938
HEALTH EXECUTIVES ASSOCIATION
05:18:11.005 --> 05:18:14.442
NURTURES.
05:18:14.508 --> 05:18:15.843
JENNIFER SUMMERS OF THE MEDICAL
05:18:15.910 --> 05:18:16.444
BOARD OF CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT
05:18:16.510 --> 05:18:16.744
[inaudible]
05:18:16.811 --> 05:18:18.379
YOU.
05:18:18.446 --> 05:18:19.313
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
05:18:19.380 --> 05:18:20.414
MARK A PRAYER ON BEHALF OF
05:18:20.481 --> 05:18:21.749
MCKESSON WE WANT TO THANK THE
05:18:21.816 --> 05:18:23.918
AUTHOR FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND
05:18:23.984 --> 05:18:27.054
ROGER AYE VOTE.
05:18:27.121 --> 05:18:28.589
IT AFTERNOON MACHAR REBUS WITH
05:18:28.656 --> 05:18:29.723
CALIFORNIA PHARMACISTS
05:18:29.790 --> 05:18:31.125
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG SUPPORT
05:18:31.192 --> 05:18:33.594
THEY CAN'T.
05:18:33.661 --> 05:18:34.495
AND WE ARE SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS
05:18:34.562 --> 05:18:36.864
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
05:18:36.931 --> 05:18:40.234
OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
05:18:40.301 --> 05:18:40.868
THOSE IN OPPOSITION PLEASE COME
05:18:40.935 --> 05:18:54.248
FORWARD.
05:18:54.315 --> 05:18:55.082
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS JUST
05:18:55.149 --> 05:18:56.083
BRIEFLY.
05:18:56.150 --> 05:18:56.884
AT MAKING ALREADY BE OF THE
05:18:56.951 --> 05:18:58.219
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
05:18:58.285 --> 05:18:59.653
WE APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTS
05:18:59.720 --> 05:19:01.121
THAT ARE OUT.
05:19:01.188 --> 05:19:02.890
SPECIFIED IN THE MOCK UP.
05:19:02.957 --> 05:19:06.126
PACIFIC TO I'M ENSURING THAT DAY
05:19:06.193 --> 05:19:08.362
EDUCATION PER PORTION OF THIS
05:19:08.429 --> 05:19:09.897
BILL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
05:19:09.964 --> 05:19:11.031
EXISTING STANDARD OF CARE FOR
05:19:11.098 --> 05:19:12.266
PHYSICIANS WHEN AND WHEN
05:19:12.333 --> 05:19:13.400
PRESCRIBING.
05:19:13.467 --> 05:19:15.236
A NEW MEDICATION AND THEIR
05:19:15.302 --> 05:19:16.704
COURSE OF TREATMENT TO A PATIENT.
05:19:16.770 --> 05:19:18.472
I'M AND ALSO WORKING ON THE
05:19:18.539 --> 05:19:20.074
ENFORCEMENT ADAM AND PENALTY
05:19:20.140 --> 05:19:21.642
LANGUAGE.
05:19:21.709 --> 05:19:23.477
I WE HAVE RECOMMENDED A REMOVAL
05:19:23.544 --> 05:19:24.912
OF OPPOSITION TO OUR COUNSEL AND
05:19:24.979 --> 05:19:26.514
WE'LL GET BACK TO THE AUTHORED
05:19:26.580 --> 05:19:27.715
COMMITTEE AS SOON AS WE HEAR.
05:19:27.781 --> 05:19:28.883
BACK FROM THEM.
05:19:28.949 --> 05:19:31.485
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NGO.
05:19:31.552 --> 05:19:32.887
LET MR MEMBERS TO MADDEN
05:19:32.953 --> 05:19:34.488
REPRESENTING THE GET CALTRAIN
05:19:34.555 --> 05:19:35.456
CHAPTER THE MARK CALLED MERCY
05:19:35.523 --> 05:19:36.724
PHYSICIANS WE RESPECTFULLY
05:19:36.790 --> 05:19:37.992
OPPOSED.
05:19:38.058 --> 05:19:39.793
ON SUMMER TO MISTER RODRIGUEZ'S
05:19:39.860 --> 05:19:42.863
BILL LARGELY WHAT I HEAR IS THAT --
05:19:42.930 --> 05:19:44.498
FROM A PHILOSOPHICAL STANDPOINT
05:19:44.565 --> 05:19:46.834
WE WE STRUGGLE WITH --
05:19:46.901 --> 05:19:47.401
LEGISLATING THE PRACTICE OF
05:19:47.468 --> 05:19:49.403
MEDICINE --
05:19:49.470 --> 05:19:51.238
WE TALK ABOUT THIS WANTED LENGTH
05:19:51.305 --> 05:19:52.773
AS WELL AND WE DO HAVE
05:19:52.840 --> 05:19:54.008
PHYSICIANS WHO CO PRESCRIBE
05:19:54.074 --> 05:19:56.143
RIGHT NOW --
05:19:56.210 --> 05:19:57.511
BUT UNFORTUNATELY ORGANIZATION
05:19:57.578 --> 05:19:58.112
WEEK WE FEEL --
05:19:58.178 --> 05:20:00.948
WE MUST POSES.
05:20:01.015 --> 05:20:03.350
THANK YOU OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
05:20:03.417 --> 05:20:04.785
SHE YOU KNOW ONE BRING IT BACK
05:20:04.852 --> 05:20:06.520
TO THE COMMITTEE FOR CONCERT AND
05:20:06.587 --> 05:20:08.489
US ASSEMBLY MEMBER WOULD YOU YOU
05:20:08.556 --> 05:20:10.624
ARE TAKING THE AMENDMENTS IS I
05:20:10.691 --> 05:20:11.292
THINK [inaudible]
05:20:11.358 --> 05:20:13.127
SENATE EVENT.
05:20:13.193 --> 05:20:14.695
I'M ACTUALLY CAN HAVE THE
05:20:14.762 --> 05:20:15.629
REPRESENT HE MAY APPEAR
05:20:15.696 --> 05:20:15.930
[inaudible]
05:20:15.996 --> 05:20:26.974
YEAH [inaudible]
05:20:27.041 --> 05:20:28.475
SO -- SO
05:20:28.542 --> 05:20:30.377
THAT PROPONENTS JUST TESTIFIED
05:20:30.444 --> 05:20:31.412
YOU KNOW WE KNOW THAT THE
05:20:31.478 --> 05:20:33.981
SURGEON GENERAL DRUM ADAMS.
05:20:34.048 --> 05:20:35.649
AS SPOKEN OUT ABOUT THE
05:20:35.716 --> 05:20:37.818
IMPORTANCE MARK STONE.
05:20:37.885 --> 05:20:40.487
THE AMA OTHERS LISTEN A YEAR AGO
05:20:40.554 --> 05:20:41.455
AS PUT OUT.
05:20:41.522 --> 05:20:43.357
WHAT IS?
05:20:43.424 --> 05:20:44.658
THE MEDICAL COMMITTEES CMA MAY
05:20:44.725 --> 05:20:46.894
PERHAPS SPECIFICALLY DOING OURS
05:20:46.961 --> 05:20:48.662
PLANE TO DO --
05:20:48.729 --> 05:20:49.763
TO ASIDE FROM LEGISLATION
05:20:49.830 --> 05:20:51.699
ACTUALLY EDUCATE PHYSICIANS
05:20:51.765 --> 05:20:53.834
ABOUT MARK STONE OF PRESCRIBING.
05:20:53.901 --> 05:20:55.536
IT'S THAT SEAT SINCE.
05:20:55.603 --> 05:20:57.371
SEEMS TO BE THAT.
05:20:57.438 --> 05:20:58.772
LEAST THAT'S WHERE THE
05:20:58.839 --> 05:21:00.107
GUIDELINES WERE GOING.
05:21:00.174 --> 05:21:02.009
AT THIS POINT THEN I DON'T KNOW
05:21:02.076 --> 05:21:03.110
WHETHER DIVERSE PHYSICIANS
05:21:03.177 --> 05:21:03.777
IMMEDIACY ABOUT THAT AS WELL
05:21:03.844 --> 05:21:04.078
[inaudible]
05:21:04.144 --> 05:21:05.112
SO [inaudible]
05:21:05.179 --> 05:21:07.314
SO.
05:21:07.381 --> 05:21:09.583
RIGHT SPECIFIC TO WHAT AMA AND
05:21:09.650 --> 05:21:10.751
OTHERS WERE DOING.
05:21:10.818 --> 05:21:12.119
I AM I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN
05:21:12.186 --> 05:21:13.420
WORKING WITH OUR MEMBERS AND WE
05:21:13.487 --> 05:21:14.855
ARE WORKING TO EDUCATE.
05:21:14.922 --> 05:21:16.223
SPECIFIC TO THESE TYPES OF
05:21:16.290 --> 05:21:17.558
PROPOSALS AND LETTING THEM KNOW
05:21:17.625 --> 05:21:19.226
WHEN WE'D DISCUSS LEGISLATION
05:21:19.293 --> 05:21:20.661
WITH OUR COUNSEL AND SIMILARLY
05:21:20.728 --> 05:21:21.895
THAT IS LEGISLATION I'M TALKING
05:21:21.962 --> 05:21:25.432
ABOUT YEAH RATE AND SIT AND
05:21:25.499 --> 05:21:27.001
THESE THINGS HAVE COME UP IS
05:21:27.067 --> 05:21:28.469
JUST THE IMPORTANCE OF I'M
05:21:28.535 --> 05:21:29.570
MAKING SURE THAT THESE THINGS
05:21:29.637 --> 05:21:30.938
ARE AVAILABLE AND MAKING SURE
05:21:31.005 --> 05:21:31.805
THAT.
05:21:31.872 --> 05:21:33.774
THEY ARE UP TO SPEED ON ALL
05:21:33.841 --> 05:21:35.342
THAT'S HAPPENING NATIONWIDE AND
05:21:35.409 --> 05:21:37.344
IN THE STATE SO THAT.
05:21:37.411 --> 05:21:39.446
THEY AREN'T SHOCKED WHEN.
05:21:39.513 --> 05:21:40.914
WHEN WE DISCUSS THESE THINGS
05:21:40.981 --> 05:21:42.049
WITH THEM AND WHAT THE
05:21:42.116 --> 05:21:43.550
LEGISLATURE AND OTHERS ARE?
05:21:43.617 --> 05:21:45.886
NOW PUSHING BECAUSE OF THE
05:21:45.953 --> 05:21:47.721
REACTIONS TO SOME OF THE
05:21:47.788 --> 05:21:50.658
PRESCRIBING WE'VE DONE A AT THE
05:21:50.724 --> 05:21:52.159
RATE JOB I'D SAY --
05:21:52.226 --> 05:21:54.728
IN REDUCING THE OPIOIDS THAT
05:21:54.795 --> 05:21:55.829
HAVE BEEN PRESCRIBED THINK IT
05:21:55.896 --> 05:21:57.331
WAS UP TO NINE PER.
05:21:57.398 --> 05:21:59.166
PERCENT ALMOST 10% IN THE LAST
05:21:59.233 --> 05:21:59.967
YEAR.
05:22:00.034 --> 05:22:01.468
AT AND SO THEY'VE BEEN MAKING
05:22:01.535 --> 05:22:02.703
GREAT STRIDES IN REALLY
05:22:02.770 --> 05:22:04.138
UNDERSTANDING.
05:22:04.204 --> 05:22:05.506
OF WHAT'S BEHIND ALL OF THIS IN
05:22:05.572 --> 05:22:07.474
THE RESEARCH AND THE NEED TO
05:22:07.541 --> 05:22:08.409
REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR OWN
05:22:08.475 --> 05:22:09.977
PRESCRIBING PRACTICES AND
05:22:10.044 --> 05:22:10.811
SIMILARLY.
05:22:10.878 --> 05:22:12.246
ITEM WE HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW
05:22:12.312 --> 05:22:14.014
DISSEMINATING ALL THE
05:22:14.081 --> 05:22:15.849
INFORMATION AND WILL CONTINUE.
05:22:15.916 --> 05:22:16.617
TO TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION
05:22:16.684 --> 05:22:17.651
ABOUT THE LOCKS AND THE
05:22:17.718 --> 05:22:20.421
AVAILABILITY OF THIS AS WELL
05:22:20.487 --> 05:22:22.189
NO I APPRECIATE HAVE REALIZED
05:22:22.256 --> 05:22:23.457
THAT THERE'S PROBABLY BECOME
05:22:23.524 --> 05:22:24.591
RELATIONS AFTER YOU MIGHT NOT BE
05:22:24.658 --> 05:22:26.293
THE BEST PERSON TO ASK WITHIN
05:22:26.360 --> 05:22:27.828
THE ORGANIZATION BUT CERTAINLY
05:22:27.895 --> 05:22:29.396
IS A POSITION MEMBER.
05:22:29.463 --> 05:22:30.964
I KNOW THAT EXAMPLE --
05:22:31.031 --> 05:22:32.166
SURGEON GENERAL SPOKE AT THE AMA
05:22:32.232 --> 05:22:34.334
MEETING ABOUT THIS --
05:22:34.401 --> 05:22:34.601
USE -- TO
05:22:34.668 --> 05:22:34.768
ALL.
05:22:34.835 --> 05:22:37.938
REPRESENT SOCIALIZATION CROSS
05:22:38.005 --> 05:22:40.140
COUNTRY I KNOW IT'S BEEN BEING
05:22:40.207 --> 05:22:42.309
COMMUNICATED THROUGH VARIETY OF
05:22:42.376 --> 05:22:42.776
DIFFERENT PROFESSIONAL
05:22:42.843 --> 05:22:43.877
ORGANIZATIONS.
05:22:43.944 --> 05:22:44.712
SO -- THIS
05:22:44.778 --> 05:22:46.747
IS.
05:22:46.814 --> 05:22:48.682
GETTING PUSHED OUT THE AND IN
05:22:48.749 --> 05:22:50.117
THE PROFESSION --
05:22:50.184 --> 05:22:51.185
I APPRECIATE --
05:22:51.251 --> 05:22:53.087
THE AUTHORS OF PASSION FOR THE
05:22:53.153 --> 05:22:54.288
ISSUE AND WE HAD --
05:22:54.354 --> 05:22:55.789
GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT I ALSO
05:22:55.856 --> 05:22:57.091
APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTS AND I
05:22:57.157 --> 05:22:59.326
THINK MY MAIN CONCERNED --
05:22:59.393 --> 05:23:00.260
WHICH WAS --
05:23:00.327 --> 05:23:01.929
AT THIS IS BEING ADDRESSED WHICH
05:23:01.995 --> 05:23:04.098
IS ABOUT MANDATED PRESCRIPTION
05:23:04.164 --> 05:23:05.766
BUT I'D CERTAINLY WE WANT.
05:23:05.833 --> 05:23:07.668
TO GET THE WORD OUT WE ALSO WANT
05:23:07.735 --> 05:23:08.902
YOU [inaudible]
05:23:08.969 --> 05:23:10.738
PEOPLE.
05:23:10.804 --> 05:23:11.972
IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT WASN'T
05:23:12.039 --> 05:23:14.041
THAT LONG AGO AN KNOW WAS NOW
05:23:14.108 --> 05:23:15.676
THAT I'VE THOSE AROUND THAT WAS
05:23:15.743 --> 05:23:17.177
IN THE LEGISLATURE WHEN THEY'RE
05:23:17.244 --> 05:23:18.212
TELLING US.
05:23:18.278 --> 05:23:19.646
TELLING POSITIONS AND WE WERE
05:23:19.713 --> 05:23:21.982
MANDATED TAKE CME TO TELL US
05:23:22.049 --> 05:23:22.549
THAT WHEN YOU DESCRIBE MORE
05:23:22.616 --> 05:23:25.219
OPIOIDS --
05:23:25.285 --> 05:23:26.653
MAYBE NOW WE SHOULD BE TALKING
05:23:26.720 --> 05:23:28.655
ABOUT PRESCRIBING FUROR WHEN
05:23:28.722 --> 05:23:30.357
OUTSIDE EUROPE IN PRESCRIBING
05:23:30.424 --> 05:23:32.292
MORE THE LOCKS ON SO --
05:23:32.359 --> 05:23:33.594
ARE AN ADDED DO NOTES ALSO OVER
05:23:33.660 --> 05:23:34.862
THE COUNTERS WELL BUT GETTING
05:23:34.928 --> 05:23:36.497
PEOPLE ACCESS.
05:23:36.563 --> 05:23:39.133
MORE NALOXONE SO I APPRECIATE --
05:23:39.199 --> 05:23:40.200
ESTIMATE WOODS.
05:23:40.267 --> 05:23:41.869
AND AFTERWARDS AS WELL AYE YOUR
05:23:41.935 --> 05:23:43.637
EAR.
05:23:43.704 --> 05:23:45.038
AB EXCUSES ISSUE THANK YOU
05:23:45.105 --> 05:23:45.339
[inaudible]
05:23:45.405 --> 05:23:47.207
THANK YOU.
05:23:47.274 --> 05:23:48.475
AND UPGRADE TO THE BILL AFTER IT
05:23:48.542 --> 05:23:49.676
IS.
05:23:49.743 --> 05:23:52.146
THE MOTION FROM A SENATOR PAN --
05:23:52.212 --> 05:23:53.680
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE.
05:23:53.747 --> 05:23:55.315
JUST LIKE TO THANK MISTER UNCLE
05:23:55.382 --> 05:23:56.617
FOR HER COMPELLING STORY AND
05:23:56.683 --> 05:23:59.119
REQUEST RESPECTFULLY ASK.
05:23:59.186 --> 05:24:00.254
VERY MUCH MOTIONED.
05:24:00.320 --> 05:24:02.656
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
05:24:02.723 --> 05:24:03.624
MISSION IS TO BE PASSED AS
05:24:03.690 --> 05:24:04.925
AMENDED TO SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
05:24:04.992 --> 05:24:06.360
COMMITTEE HILL AYE HILL AYE
05:24:06.426 --> 05:24:07.694
FULLER [inaudible]
05:24:07.761 --> 05:24:09.530
ALAN.
05:24:09.596 --> 05:24:11.498
ALLEN AYE DODD AYE DODD AYE
05:24:11.565 --> 05:24:14.501
GALGIANI GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
05:24:14.568 --> 05:24:16.436
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
05:24:16.503 --> 05:24:20.174
AYE PAN AYE PAN AYE WILK YEAH.
05:24:20.240 --> 05:24:20.440
BOOK AYE.
05:24:20.507 --> 05:24:22.075
FATE.
05:24:22.142 --> 05:24:24.077
IT VOTE THEY OF BILL IS OUT
05:24:24.144 --> 05:24:25.913
THANK YOU VERY MUCH LOOKING AT
05:24:25.979 --> 05:24:29.349
ITEM NUMBER. TWENTY SEVEN AB
05:24:29.416 --> 05:24:29.850
TWENTY SEVEN EIGHTY NINE
05:24:29.917 --> 05:24:30.951
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WOULD PLEASE
05:24:31.018 --> 05:24:32.553
AGAIN MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS --
05:24:32.619 --> 05:24:34.421
AB TWENTY SEVEN EIGHTY NINE
05:24:34.488 --> 05:24:36.690
REQUIRES A BY.
05:24:36.757 --> 05:24:37.257
TWENTY TWENTY TWO ELECTRONIC
05:24:37.324 --> 05:24:38.559
CURRENTLY PRESCRIBING SHOULD BE
05:24:38.625 --> 05:24:40.060
REQUIRED FOR ALL PRESCRIPTIONS
05:24:40.127 --> 05:24:41.795
THE RATIONALE FOR THIS BILL IS
05:24:41.862 --> 05:24:42.296
TWO FOLD.
05:24:42.362 --> 05:24:43.664
PERSON BE PRESCRIBING IS AN
05:24:43.730 --> 05:24:44.998
IMPORTANT TOOL TO ADDRESS YOUR
05:24:45.065 --> 05:24:46.934
GOOD CRISIS BY ENHANCE TRACKING
05:24:47.000 --> 05:24:48.035
OF UP YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS.
05:24:48.101 --> 05:24:49.536
AND BY REDUCING THE AVAILABILITY
05:24:49.603 --> 05:24:52.172
OF OPIOIDS PERTAIN TO FRAUDULENT
05:24:52.239 --> 05:24:52.406
MEANS.
05:24:52.472 --> 05:24:53.207
SECONDLY <c.green> PRESCRIBING</c>
05:24:53.273 --> 05:24:54.608
REDUCES PRESCRIPTION ERRORS
05:24:54.675 --> 05:24:56.476
IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF PATIENT
05:24:56.543 --> 05:24:57.878
CARE BY REDUCING THOSE THERE'S
05:24:57.945 --> 05:24:58.412
MORE THAN ONE POINT THREE
05:24:58.478 --> 05:25:01.648
MILLION PEOPLE.
05:25:01.715 --> 05:25:02.716
AREAS ANNUALLY IN THE U. S. AND
05:25:02.783 --> 05:25:03.650
MOST OF THESE THE STAKES ARE
05:25:03.717 --> 05:25:05.352
PREVENTABLE.
05:25:05.419 --> 05:25:06.320
I AM NOT THE BEST HAND WRITER
05:25:06.386 --> 05:25:07.988
AND I CAN.
05:25:08.055 --> 05:25:09.189
CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I
05:25:09.256 --> 05:25:10.490
HAD A PHARMACIST CALLED ME TO
05:25:10.557 --> 05:25:11.959
ASK ME FOR CLARIFICATION ON A
05:25:12.025 --> 05:25:12.559
WRITTEN PRESCRIPTION OVER THE
05:25:12.626 --> 05:25:15.362
YEARS -- AND
05:25:15.429 --> 05:25:16.530
I BELIEVE THIS WOULD HAVE HELPED
05:25:16.597 --> 05:25:18.365
ACCORDING ACCORDING TO A STUDY
05:25:18.432 --> 05:25:19.366
CONDUCTED AT JOHN HOPKINS
05:25:19.433 --> 05:25:21.835
MEDICATION OUTPATIENT PHARMACY
05:25:21.902 --> 05:25:23.003
89% OF HAND WRITTEN
05:25:23.070 --> 05:25:24.371
PRESCRIPTIONS FAILED TO MEET
05:25:24.438 --> 05:25:25.839
BEST PRACTICE GUIDELINES. FOR
05:25:25.906 --> 05:25:27.641
WERE MISSING INFORMATION IN
05:25:27.708 --> 05:25:28.408
COMPARISON NOT A SINGLE
05:25:28.475 --> 05:25:29.643
PRESCRIPTION ISSUED
05:25:29.710 --> 05:25:30.644
ELECTRONICALLY IN THAT STUDY
05:25:30.711 --> 05:25:31.979
COMPLAIN ANY TYPES ANY OF THESE
05:25:32.045 --> 05:25:33.080
ERRORS.
05:25:33.146 --> 05:25:34.514
CURRENTLY NINE STATES INCLUDING
05:25:34.581 --> 05:25:35.949
STATES WITH LARGE POPULATIONS
05:25:36.016 --> 05:25:37.384
LIKE NEW YORK AND SMALLER MORE
05:25:37.451 --> 05:25:38.719
RURAL STATES LIKE MAINE AND
05:25:38.785 --> 05:25:39.786
RHODE ISLAND.
05:25:39.853 --> 05:25:41.889
HAVE PASSED THE PRESCRIBING LAWS
05:25:41.955 --> 05:25:42.756
SEVENTEEN OTHER STATES HAVE LAWS
05:25:42.823 --> 05:25:44.057
UNDER WAY IN THE IN THE HOUSE
05:25:44.124 --> 05:25:45.225
AND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
05:25:45.292 --> 05:25:46.260
AND SENATORS.
05:25:46.326 --> 05:25:47.394
AND THIS AND U. S. SENATE HAVE
05:25:47.461 --> 05:25:48.462
BILLS PENDING THAT REQUIRE THE
05:25:48.528 --> 05:25:51.331
PERSON [inaudible] FOR MEDICARE.
05:25:51.398 --> 05:25:52.499
DESCRIBING IS NEITHER A NEW
05:25:52.566 --> 05:25:55.002
CONCEPT NO OR NOR OUT OF REACH
05:25:55.068 --> 05:25:56.436
ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY.
05:25:56.503 --> 05:25:57.771
ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD TO
05:25:57.838 --> 05:25:59.006
SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT HAVE MADE
05:25:59.072 --> 05:26:00.507
ADOPTION OF THE PRESCRIPTIONS --
05:26:00.574 --> 05:26:01.975
THE NORM WE WORK WITH
05:26:02.042 --> 05:26:04.011
STAKEHOLDERS TO EASE ANY BURDEN
05:26:04.077 --> 05:26:05.145
THAT MISS BILL BENNETT MADE REP
05:26:05.212 --> 05:26:07.147
MAY PRESENT WITH EXTENDED THE
05:26:07.214 --> 05:26:08.548
TIMELINE FOR IMPLEMENTATION FOR
05:26:08.615 --> 05:26:10.183
THOSE CONSIDERING RETIREMENT
05:26:10.250 --> 05:26:12.419
PROVIDED EXEMPTIONS --
05:26:12.486 --> 05:26:12.986
TO TO ADDRESS IMPLEMENTATION
05:26:13.053 --> 05:26:15.956
CONCERNS AB TWENTY SEVEN EIGHTY
05:26:16.023 --> 05:26:17.457
NINE ALLOWS UP TO THREE YEARS OF
05:26:17.524 --> 05:26:18.592
FOR INDIVIDUAL PRESCRIBERS
05:26:18.659 --> 05:26:20.093
HOSPITALS.
05:26:20.160 --> 05:26:20.994
GROUP PRACTICES IN EMERGENCY
05:26:21.061 --> 05:26:22.129
ROOMS TO FIGURE OUT THE
05:26:22.195 --> 05:26:23.397
TECHNOLOGY AND PROCEDURAL
05:26:23.463 --> 05:26:25.766
REQUIREMENTS THAT SPECIFIC TO
05:26:25.832 --> 05:26:28.101
THEIR NEEDS AND ALLOWS TIME --
05:26:28.168 --> 05:26:29.169
TO PLAN FOR THE FINANCIAL
05:26:29.236 --> 05:26:31.338
IMPLICATIONS OF THIS REQUIREMENT.
05:26:31.405 --> 05:26:31.905
IT ISN'T HAPPENING TODAY OR
05:26:31.972 --> 05:26:33.340
TOMORROW.
05:26:33.407 --> 05:26:33.941
BUT HOPEFULLY THREE YEARS FROM
05:26:34.007 --> 05:26:35.542
NOW.
05:26:35.609 --> 05:26:37.477
UP SORRY WITH ME TODAY TESTIFIED
05:26:37.544 --> 05:26:39.346
IS A VIRGINIA HEROLD EXECUTIVE
05:26:39.413 --> 05:26:40.547
OFFICER THE CALIFORNIA BOARD OF
05:26:40.614 --> 05:26:42.616
PHARMACY IS PROVIDED SIGNIFICANT
05:26:42.683 --> 05:26:44.184
ASSISTANCE IN HELPING SHAPE THIS
05:26:44.251 --> 05:26:44.751
BILL.
05:26:44.818 --> 05:26:47.387
YOUR TAKE IN THE HOUSE HAVE BEEN
05:26:47.454 --> 05:26:48.188
IMAGE THANK YOUS THINKS.
05:26:48.255 --> 05:26:49.089
UP THANK YOU VERY MUCH I AM
05:26:49.156 --> 05:26:49.923
VIRTUALLY HURLING WITH THE BOARD
05:26:49.990 --> 05:26:51.425
OF PHARMACY ON THE BOARD
05:26:51.491 --> 05:26:52.893
BELIEVES VERY STRONGLY FOR THE
05:26:52.960 --> 05:26:53.627
REASON.
05:26:53.694 --> 05:26:56.263
THAT DOCTOR WOULD JUST LISTED ON
05:26:56.330 --> 05:26:57.898
WHYY PRESCRIBING IS THE WAY TO
05:26:57.965 --> 05:26:59.433
GO AS AS THE NEXT STEP IN
05:26:59.499 --> 05:27:01.168
ADDRESSING COMPONENTS OF THE
05:27:01.234 --> 05:27:03.570
OPIOID CRISIS THAT WE FIND
05:27:03.637 --> 05:27:04.471
OURSELVES THEN. FOR AMONG OTHER
05:27:04.538 --> 05:27:05.806
THINGS THAT POINT THAT HE DIDN'T
05:27:05.872 --> 05:27:07.441
MENTION YOU HAVE A CLOSE SYSTEM
05:27:07.507 --> 05:27:08.675
ESSENTIALLY WITH THE PRESCRIBING
05:27:08.742 --> 05:27:09.643
BECAUSE THE PRESCRIBER IS
05:27:09.710 --> 05:27:10.978
SENDING IT TO A PHARMACY AND
05:27:11.044 --> 05:27:11.745
THERE IS NO.
05:27:11.812 --> 05:27:12.980
IT'S NOT HEADED TO THE PATIENT
05:27:13.046 --> 05:27:14.514
WHO CAN MANIPULATE PRESCRIPTION
05:27:14.581 --> 05:27:16.216
ALTER THE NUMBERS ARE CHANGE
05:27:16.283 --> 05:27:17.851
THINGS AT THINGS THAN EVEN OUR
05:27:17.918 --> 05:27:19.820
SECURITY FORMS IN CALIFORNIA ARE
05:27:19.886 --> 05:27:21.588
FLAWED FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
05:27:21.655 --> 05:27:22.789
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT PHARMACY
05:27:22.856 --> 05:27:23.957
SHOULD BE SPENDING THEIR TIME
05:27:24.024 --> 05:27:25.492
EVALUATING THE DRUG THERAPY A
05:27:25.559 --> 05:27:27.461
PHARMACY OF THE PATIENT AND NOT
05:27:27.527 --> 05:27:29.296
CHECKING OFF TO MAKE SURE ALL
05:27:29.363 --> 05:27:29.896
FOURTEEN FEATURES ARE ON THAT
05:27:29.963 --> 05:27:30.530
FORM.
05:27:30.597 --> 05:27:32.632
SO TO ENHANCE PATIENT CARE TO
05:27:32.699 --> 05:27:35.402
IMPROVE ON PATIENT SAFETY AND TO
05:27:35.469 --> 05:27:36.703
HELP ENSURE THAT WHAT THE
05:27:36.770 --> 05:27:37.971
PATIENT GETS IS WHAT THE
05:27:38.038 --> 05:27:40.507
ESCRIBIR PRESCRIBED.
05:27:40.574 --> 05:27:42.242
WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE
05:27:42.309 --> 05:27:43.143
THROUGH GOOD THANK YOU OTHERS IN
05:27:43.210 --> 05:27:44.011
SUPPORT.
05:27:44.077 --> 05:27:45.012
THANK YOU MISTER MEMBERS OF THE
05:27:45.078 --> 05:27:46.213
COMMITTEE DAVID GONZALEZ ON HALF
05:27:46.279 --> 05:27:47.748
OF AMERICA'S VISION GROUPS ON
05:27:47.814 --> 05:27:49.516
OUR PROVIDERS ARE PRACTICES ON
05:27:49.583 --> 05:27:50.117
THREE HUNDRED MEDICAL GROUPS
05:27:50.183 --> 05:27:51.218
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
05:27:51.284 --> 05:27:53.086
HAPPY TO BE HERE IN SUPPORT OF
05:27:53.153 --> 05:27:54.121
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS IS A
05:27:54.187 --> 05:27:55.022
REALLY GOOD JOB OF MAKING THE
05:27:55.088 --> 05:27:56.490
CASE THREE PRESCRIBING IS LOTS
05:27:56.556 --> 05:27:57.991
OF CO BENEFITS FOR NOT JUST IN
05:27:58.058 --> 05:27:59.192
TERMS OF REDUCING.
05:27:59.259 --> 05:28:00.727
ABUSE OF PRESCRIPTION BUT ALSO
05:28:00.794 --> 05:28:01.328
IN TERMS OF THE PATIENT
05:28:01.395 --> 05:28:02.362
EXPERIENCE WHICH IS WHERE OUR
05:28:02.429 --> 05:28:04.531
PROVIDERS FOCUSED ON THEY THINK
05:28:04.598 --> 05:28:06.199
THAT MOVING TOWARD THE
05:28:06.266 --> 05:28:06.800
PRESCRIBING WILL HELP PATIENTS
05:28:06.867 --> 05:28:09.136
IN TERMS OF SEE WHAT TYPES OF
05:28:09.202 --> 05:28:09.970
PRESCRIPTIONS THEY'RE CURRENTLY
05:28:10.037 --> 05:28:11.772
ON AS COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE
05:28:11.838 --> 05:28:14.141
PROVIDER IN THE ESCRIBIR SO.
05:28:14.207 --> 05:28:15.275
WE THINK IT'S A GOOD COULD STEP
05:28:15.342 --> 05:28:16.777
IN THE DIRECTION OF BUT THERE'S
05:28:16.843 --> 05:28:17.811
ALSO SOME OTHER BENEFITS FOR THE
05:28:17.878 --> 05:28:19.279
HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN TERMS OF A
05:28:19.346 --> 05:28:21.014
SCALLOPED COLLECTING DATA ON
05:28:21.081 --> 05:28:22.549
OUTCOME MEASURES FOR PATIENTS.
05:28:22.616 --> 05:28:23.383
HOUSING WHERE MONEY IS BEING
05:28:23.450 --> 05:28:24.951
SPENT SO THE MORE WE'RE GOING
05:28:25.018 --> 05:28:26.887
TOWARD ELECTRONIC WELFARE QUEENS
05:28:26.953 --> 05:28:28.121
DATABASES I THINK IS ON THE
05:28:28.188 --> 05:28:29.222
HORIZON FOR THE STATE OF
05:28:29.289 --> 05:28:31.058
CALIFORNIA SO THIS TYPE OF
05:28:31.124 --> 05:28:32.225
MOVING POLICY WILL HELP GATHER
05:28:32.292 --> 05:28:33.727
THAT INFORMATION HEALTH FOOD
05:28:33.794 --> 05:28:35.228
PATIENTS SO.
05:28:35.295 --> 05:28:35.762
I WANT TO THANK YOU OFFER
05:28:35.829 --> 05:28:36.730
INCREASING THE BILL AND MOVING
05:28:36.797 --> 05:28:38.532
OUR PROVISOS THE TWENTY
05:28:38.598 --> 05:28:40.167
TWENTIETH CENTURY CARE.
05:28:40.233 --> 05:28:43.970
AUXILIA BEHIND IN CALIFORNIA.
05:28:44.037 --> 05:28:45.505
IN A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT I'M
05:28:45.572 --> 05:28:46.840
SURE THOUGHT OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
05:28:46.907 --> 05:28:47.707
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
05:28:47.774 --> 05:28:48.775
COMMITTEE MARK A PRAYER ON
05:28:48.842 --> 05:28:50.143
BEHALF OF MCKESSON AGAIN WE WANT
05:28:50.210 --> 05:28:52.245
TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING
05:28:52.312 --> 05:28:53.747
THIS MEASURE FORWARD.
05:28:53.814 --> 05:28:55.749
LAST YEAR MCKESSON DEVELOPED A
05:28:55.816 --> 05:28:58.318
WHITE PAPER ON OPIOID ABUSE HAVE
05:28:58.385 --> 05:28:59.986
WE IDENTIFIED THE PRESCRIBING AS
05:29:00.053 --> 05:29:01.688
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT.
05:29:01.755 --> 05:29:04.357
I HAVE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO --
05:29:04.424 --> 05:29:06.059
TO ADDRESS OPIOID ABUSE WE A
05:29:06.126 --> 05:29:07.060
RICHER AYE VOTE.
05:29:07.127 --> 05:29:10.063
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:29:10.130 --> 05:29:11.531
AMERICA CANNOT THE CALIFORNIA
05:29:11.598 --> 05:29:12.732
DENTAL ASSOCIATION WE JUST
05:29:12.799 --> 05:29:14.568
WANTED TO LET THE COMMITTEE KNOW
05:29:14.634 --> 05:29:15.569
THAT WITH THE PROPOSED
05:29:15.635 --> 05:29:16.603
AMENDMENTS ARE MOVING OUR
05:29:16.670 --> 05:29:17.571
POSITION FOR SOME FROM
05:29:17.637 --> 05:29:19.473
SUPPORTIVE AMENDED TO SUPPORT
05:29:19.539 --> 05:29:20.507
SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE
05:29:20.574 --> 05:29:21.575
AMENDMENTS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION
05:29:21.641 --> 05:29:22.175
DATE.
05:29:22.242 --> 05:29:23.643
SO THEY COULD AUTHORS OFFICE
05:29:23.710 --> 05:29:25.812
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:29:25.879 --> 05:29:26.413
AND JENNIFER SUMMERS OF THE
05:29:26.480 --> 05:29:27.080
MEDICAL BOARD OF CALIFORNIA WE
05:29:27.147 --> 05:29:28.448
HAVE A SUPPORT IF AMENDED
05:29:28.515 --> 05:29:30.050
POSITION AND THE BOARD DOES
05:29:30.117 --> 05:29:31.284
SUPPORT MOVING TOWARDS E.
05:29:31.351 --> 05:29:32.586
PRESCRIBING --
05:29:32.652 --> 05:29:34.054
HOWEVER WE DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS
05:29:34.121 --> 05:29:35.388
AT PRESCRIBERS AND RURAL AREAS
05:29:35.455 --> 05:29:36.423
MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE
05:29:36.490 --> 05:29:38.425
TECHNOLOGY NEEDED BUT WE ARE
05:29:38.492 --> 05:29:39.926
WORKING WITH THE AUTHORS OFFICE
05:29:39.993 --> 05:29:42.062
TO ME RESPECTFULLY QUESTION I
05:29:42.129 --> 05:29:43.296
THINK YOU THINK YOU CAN.
05:29:43.363 --> 05:29:44.064
CHAU REVERSE WITH CALIFORNIA
05:29:44.131 --> 05:29:45.198
PHARMACISTS ASSOCIATES ONE THE
05:29:45.265 --> 05:29:46.466
THINK THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER FOR
05:29:46.533 --> 05:29:47.934
BRINGING THIS ISSUE FORWARD WE
05:29:48.001 --> 05:29:49.603
DID CHECK IN WITH OUR PHARMACIST
05:29:49.669 --> 05:29:51.705
BOTH AN INDEPENDENT SANDY INS
05:29:51.771 --> 05:29:53.240
AND MORE RURAL SETTINGS I'M.
05:29:53.306 --> 05:29:54.741
MAKING SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE
05:29:54.808 --> 05:29:56.176
ABLE TO COMPLY WE DIDN'T FIND
05:29:56.243 --> 05:29:57.477
ANY KID ISSUES ANYWHERE AGAIN
05:29:57.544 --> 05:29:59.012
THIS PURSUE WITH OUR ROLE FOLKS
05:29:59.079 --> 05:30:00.113
SENT THEM THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED
05:30:00.180 --> 05:30:01.515
THAT THEY WILL BOTH.
05:30:01.581 --> 05:30:03.016
BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THIS NEW
05:30:03.083 --> 05:30:04.885
BELL THEY KILL THANK YOU VERY
05:30:04.951 --> 05:30:07.721
MUCH --
05:30:07.787 --> 05:30:11.458
ANYONE IN OPPOSITION.
05:30:11.525 --> 05:30:17.631
PLEASE COME FORWARD [inaudible]
05:30:17.697 --> 05:30:20.100
MAD.
05:30:20.167 --> 05:30:21.868
MR MEMBERS TO MADDEN REPRESENT
05:30:21.935 --> 05:30:22.736
THE CALIFORNIA CHAPTER OF
05:30:22.802 --> 05:30:23.336
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF EMERGENCY
05:30:23.403 --> 05:30:25.138
PHYSICIANS --
05:30:25.205 --> 05:30:26.339
WE HAVE AN OPPOSING LISTA MANY
05:30:26.406 --> 05:30:29.376
POSITION ON AB 2079% WE'D REALLY
05:30:29.442 --> 05:30:30.410
LIKE TO THINK DOCTOR WOULD IN
05:30:30.477 --> 05:30:31.845
PARTICULAR IS A STAFF FOR THE
05:30:31.912 --> 05:30:33.847
MANY TIMES THAT HE SPENT WITH US
05:30:33.914 --> 05:30:35.315
AND LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS.
05:30:35.382 --> 05:30:37.484
OUR AND LOOKING AT THE MOCK UP I
05:30:37.551 --> 05:30:38.051
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS
05:30:38.118 --> 05:30:40.053
INCLUDING THEIR THAT ADDRESS A
05:30:40.120 --> 05:30:41.454
NUMBER OF OUR CONCERNS AND FOR
05:30:41.521 --> 05:30:42.856
SHE WERE STILL IN OPPOSING THE
05:30:42.923 --> 05:30:46.426
SENATE POSITION --
05:30:46.493 --> 05:30:47.694
ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT WE
05:30:47.761 --> 05:30:48.862
HAVE TALKED TO DOCTOR WOULD
05:30:48.929 --> 05:30:50.630
ABOUT WAS THE NOTION OF TRYING
05:30:50.697 --> 05:30:51.932
TO ALLOW US IN EMERGENCY
05:30:51.998 --> 05:30:53.400
DEPARTMENT TO WHAT WE WOULD
05:30:53.466 --> 05:30:55.502
DESCRIBE AS EAST E. PRESCRIBED.
05:30:55.569 --> 05:30:58.171
BUT NOT TRANSMIT TO THE PHARMACY
05:30:58.238 --> 05:30:59.839
SO FOR US WHAT WE WOULD DO AS WE
05:30:59.906 --> 05:31:01.274
GO INTO AND TODAY WE'RE GOING
05:31:01.341 --> 05:31:02.909
TOWARD OR EACH OUR SYSTEMS.
05:31:02.976 --> 05:31:03.777
ENOUGH I'M IN THERE THEY SAY
05:31:03.843 --> 05:31:05.111
OKAY TIM'S GOING TO GET THESE
05:31:05.178 --> 05:31:07.681
THESE DRUGS THEY PRINTED OUT ON
05:31:07.747 --> 05:31:08.882
TO A SECURE DOCUMENT AND THEY
05:31:08.949 --> 05:31:10.417
HANDED TO THE PATIENT.
05:31:10.483 --> 05:31:11.117
AND THE PATIENT CAN GO TO
05:31:11.184 --> 05:31:12.786
WHATEVER FARMS THEY WANT BASED
05:31:12.852 --> 05:31:14.020
ON WHERE THEY LIVE WHEN THE
05:31:14.087 --> 05:31:15.989
FARMS YOU MIGHT BE OPEN AND PART
05:31:16.056 --> 05:31:16.756
OF THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE
05:31:16.823 --> 05:31:18.024
MARKUPS SO THAT IS SOMETHING THE
05:31:18.091 --> 05:31:19.426
DOCTOR WOULD.
05:31:19.492 --> 05:31:20.760
ON HEALTH ADDRESS FOREST'S.
05:31:20.827 --> 05:31:23.196
I'M BUT IN PARTICULAR SITUATIONS
05:31:23.263 --> 05:31:24.965
AND THE REASON I ASK FOR THAT IS
05:31:25.031 --> 05:31:26.233
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE
05:31:26.299 --> 05:31:27.601
FINDING WITH THE PRESCRIBING IS
05:31:27.667 --> 05:31:28.635
THAT ESSENTIALLY ONE WAY
05:31:28.702 --> 05:31:30.503
COMMUNICATION NOT DISSIMILAR TO
05:31:30.570 --> 05:31:31.338
FAXING.
05:31:31.404 --> 05:31:32.672
WHEN DEFENSE SENT A FAX TO
05:31:32.739 --> 05:31:33.506
SOMEONE THEY GET IT AND THAT'S
05:31:33.573 --> 05:31:34.241
IT?
05:31:34.307 --> 05:31:35.742
THE CHALLENGE WE RUN INTO WHEN
05:31:35.809 --> 05:31:37.010
OUR FOLKS WHO HAVE BE PRESCRIBED
05:31:37.077 --> 05:31:39.279
IS THEY SEND IT TO THE PHARMACY.
05:31:39.346 --> 05:31:40.647
AND SOMETHING COMES UP THE
05:31:40.714 --> 05:31:43.083
PATIENT MAY WANT TO GO TO A
05:31:43.149 --> 05:31:44.985
DIFFERENT PHARMACY ARM THERE MAY
05:31:45.051 --> 05:31:46.720
BE A PROBLEM WITH THE INITIAL
05:31:46.786 --> 05:31:48.622
PRESCRIPTION IN TERMS OF A
05:31:48.688 --> 05:31:50.156
SITUATION WHERE.
05:31:50.223 --> 05:31:51.591
A PATIENT --
05:31:51.658 --> 05:31:52.792
AFTER WE HAD PRESCRIBED FIGURES
05:31:52.859 --> 05:31:54.294
OUT THAT THEY WERE ALLERGIC TO
05:31:54.361 --> 05:31:55.595
THE PRESCRIPTION KEEP IN MIND
05:31:55.662 --> 05:31:56.830
THESE ARE PATIENTS WHO HAVE GONE
05:31:56.896 --> 05:31:57.998
TO AN EMERGENCY.
05:31:58.064 --> 05:31:58.932
THEY'RE NOT REALLY IN THE BEST
05:31:58.999 --> 05:31:59.466
SHAPE THEY MAY HAVE JUST
05:31:59.532 --> 05:32:02.168
FORGOTTEN OUR ABILITY TO GO INTO
05:32:02.235 --> 05:32:04.537
CANCEL AT THE PRESCRIPTION IS --
05:32:04.604 --> 05:32:05.939
SOMETHING OUR FOLKS ARE SAYING
05:32:06.006 --> 05:32:07.274
IS NOT THERE TODAY.
05:32:07.340 --> 05:32:08.942
I'M IN ADDITION WHEN IT COMES TO
05:32:09.009 --> 05:32:10.577
TRANSFERRING THE PRESCRIPTION I
05:32:10.644 --> 05:32:11.611
MISS SOMETHING THAT WE GET
05:32:11.678 --> 05:32:12.912
PATIENTS WILL CALL BACK AND ASK
05:32:12.979 --> 05:32:14.481
US TO CHANGE IT CAN YOU MOVE IT
05:32:14.547 --> 05:32:15.782
TO A DIFFERENT PHARMACY.
05:32:15.849 --> 05:32:16.516
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE BURDENS
05:32:16.583 --> 05:32:19.619
THAT WE'VE COME ACROSS AND
05:32:19.686 --> 05:32:21.354
RESPECT WE WE SEE IN THIS BILL
05:32:21.421 --> 05:32:23.123
THAT THAT'S PARTLY ADDRESSED.
05:32:23.189 --> 05:32:24.724
SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR
05:32:24.791 --> 05:32:27.560
IS TO NOT ONLY INSURER THAT.
05:32:27.627 --> 05:32:28.995
PHYSICIANS CAN SEND THE
05:32:29.062 --> 05:32:30.597
PRESCRIPTION TO THE PHARMACY BUT
05:32:30.664 --> 05:32:32.565
THEN THE PHARMACY CAN MANAGE OUR
05:32:32.632 --> 05:32:35.435
PRESCRIPTION SO WE'RE TRYING --
05:32:35.502 --> 05:32:36.970
TO ENCOURAGES SYSTEM THAT'S MORE
05:32:37.037 --> 05:32:38.204
COLLABORATIVE IN TERMS OF
05:32:38.271 --> 05:32:39.939
ENSURING THAT THE PATIENT IS
05:32:40.006 --> 05:32:42.909
ABLE TO ARM HAD THE FLEXIBILITY
05:32:42.976 --> 05:32:44.344
TO GO TO THE FARCE OF THEY MAY
05:32:44.411 --> 05:32:45.178
WANT.
05:32:45.245 --> 05:32:46.479
ON THERE'S FLEXIBILITY FOR THE
05:32:46.546 --> 05:32:48.114
PATIENT TO CANCEL PRESCRIPTIONS
05:32:48.181 --> 05:32:49.582
IF A MISTAKE IS BEEN MADE.
05:32:49.649 --> 05:32:51.117
ON BUT AND I THINK IN TALKING TO
05:32:51.184 --> 05:32:52.419
DOCTOR WOULD THAT WERE GOING IN
05:32:52.485 --> 05:32:54.754
THE RIGHT DIRECTION FIVE THAT'S
05:32:54.821 --> 05:32:55.322
WHAT I'M HEARING FROM DOCTOR
05:32:55.388 --> 05:32:56.489
WOULD -- BUT
05:32:56.556 --> 05:32:57.390
I SEE HE CAN CLARIFY IT DOESN'T
05:32:57.457 --> 05:32:59.726
GET -- BUT
05:32:59.793 --> 05:33:00.593
NONETHELESS THAT'S WERE I THINK
05:33:00.660 --> 05:33:02.095
RAMMING SOME PRODUCTIVE
05:33:02.162 --> 05:33:03.530
CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM IN THE
05:33:03.596 --> 05:33:04.564
STAFF.
05:33:04.631 --> 05:33:06.299
ON PROPORTION THIS TIME RESULT
05:33:06.366 --> 05:33:07.767
PROPOSAL LISTEN AND THANK YOU
05:33:07.834 --> 05:33:08.268
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
05:33:08.335 --> 05:33:11.137
COMMITTEE.
05:33:11.204 --> 05:33:11.705
IT'S VERY MEMBERS MAKE IT
05:33:11.771 --> 05:33:12.272
ALRIGHT OF BEHALF OF THE
05:33:12.339 --> 05:33:14.207
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION.
05:33:14.274 --> 05:33:15.608
I ALSO OPPOSE MOST AMENDED
05:33:15.675 --> 05:33:16.343
POSITION JUST WANNA ECHO A LOT
05:33:16.409 --> 05:33:18.611
OF THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE.
05:33:18.678 --> 05:33:20.313
SPECIFIC TO IRAQ CONTROLLED
05:33:20.380 --> 05:33:21.915
SUBSTANCES I THINK ARE A BIGGER
05:33:21.981 --> 05:33:23.850
CONCERN IN THE E. PRESCRIBING
05:33:23.917 --> 05:33:25.885
WORLD BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT
05:33:25.952 --> 05:33:26.720
MORE REGULATIONS AROUND THEM.
05:33:26.786 --> 05:33:27.887
I REGULATIONS THAT WE ARE
05:33:27.954 --> 05:33:30.123
WORKING THAT AT THE TOP LEVEL
05:33:30.190 --> 05:33:30.857
SPECIFICALLY WITH THE DA
05:33:30.924 --> 05:33:31.157
[inaudible]
05:33:31.224 --> 05:33:35.161
I TO ADDRESS AND THROUGH THE
05:33:35.228 --> 05:33:36.396
FEDERAL LEGISLATION THAT'S ALSO
05:33:36.463 --> 05:33:37.497
MOVING THEIR CONCURRENTLY
05:33:37.564 --> 05:33:37.797
[inaudible]
05:33:37.864 --> 05:33:40.567
SO I WE HAVE BROUGHT UP SOME OF
05:33:40.633 --> 05:33:42.135
THESE CONCERNS TO THE OTHERS
05:33:42.202 --> 05:33:43.770
OFFICE OF THE AS WELL AS A FEW
05:33:43.837 --> 05:33:45.238
OTHER IMPLEMENTATION ISSUES.
05:33:45.305 --> 05:33:46.406
AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO
05:33:46.473 --> 05:33:48.141
CONTINUE TO WORKING ON THOSE
05:33:48.208 --> 05:33:50.210
ADAM AS THE SALT MOVING THERE.
05:33:50.276 --> 05:33:51.644
BUT UNFORTUNATE THE TIMER SO OF
05:33:51.711 --> 05:33:53.279
THOSE MUST AMENDED.
05:33:53.346 --> 05:33:53.780
GOOD THANK YOU.
05:33:53.847 --> 05:33:55.782
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION.
05:33:55.849 --> 05:33:57.183
YOU KNOW.
05:33:57.250 --> 05:34:00.186
ONE WE HAVE TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
05:34:00.253 --> 05:34:02.722
COMMENTS.
05:34:02.789 --> 05:34:03.757
SENATOR VOWED TO DRIVE SOME GOOD
05:34:03.823 --> 05:34:05.425
MOVE THE BILL I THINK WE HAVE A
05:34:05.492 --> 05:34:07.761
QUESTION FROM SENATOR GRAMM.
05:34:07.827 --> 05:34:10.463
HEALTH AND HANKS VERY MUCH AND
05:34:10.530 --> 05:34:13.566
I APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE TRYING --
05:34:13.633 --> 05:34:14.667
TO SUMMER WOULD SAID.
05:34:14.734 --> 05:34:17.470
SOMEONE WHO IS A WHOSE STONE ACT
05:34:17.537 --> 05:34:18.905
PRACTICE AND ACTUALLY USES E.
05:34:18.972 --> 05:34:19.706
PRESCRIBING --
05:34:19.773 --> 05:34:22.208
IN MY CLINIC --
05:34:22.275 --> 05:34:24.010
I KNOW THAT YOU ACTUALLY WONDER
05:34:24.077 --> 05:34:25.745
QUOTE STRENGTH OF THE PRESCRIBED
05:34:25.812 --> 05:34:26.346
IS ALSO ON THE CHALLENGES THE
05:34:26.413 --> 05:34:27.480
CLOSED LOOP.
05:34:27.547 --> 05:34:30.049
BECAUSE THE CLOSED LOOP MEANS
05:34:30.116 --> 05:34:31.618
THAT.
05:34:31.684 --> 05:34:33.653
I HAVE TO SEND A PRESCRIPTION TO
05:34:33.720 --> 05:34:35.522
VERY SPECIFIC PHARMACY WHICH IS
05:34:35.588 --> 05:34:36.623
GREAT IF THE PATIENT KNOWS
05:34:36.689 --> 05:34:38.958
EXACTLY WHERE HE WANTED TO GO.
05:34:39.025 --> 05:34:41.361
THE PATIENCE NOT SURE --
05:34:41.428 --> 05:34:42.796
AND AGAIN YELL AT THIS IS THAT
05:34:42.862 --> 05:34:44.397
IT'S NOT.
05:34:44.464 --> 05:34:45.765
THE EXCEPTION IS THE CHALLENGE
05:34:45.832 --> 05:34:47.100
RIGHT SO YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S
05:34:47.167 --> 05:34:48.735
NEWLY MOVES TO THE AREA SOMEONE
05:34:48.802 --> 05:34:49.869
WHO'S IN THE MIDDLE OF MOVING
05:34:49.936 --> 05:34:51.571
FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER GOT
05:34:51.638 --> 05:34:52.806
AND YOU JOB WHERE EVERS THE
05:34:52.872 --> 05:34:54.140
CONVENIENT PLACE AND ESPECIALLY
05:34:54.207 --> 05:34:55.408
THE LOWER THE INCOME THE PERSON
05:34:55.475 --> 05:34:56.910
USUALLY THE CHALLENGE.
05:34:56.976 --> 05:34:57.844
YEAH LIKE THAT'S WE TAKE CARE OF
05:34:57.911 --> 05:34:59.512
MEDI CAL PATIENTS --
05:34:59.579 --> 05:35:01.314
TRANSPORTATION ISSUES THINGS
05:35:01.381 --> 05:35:02.182
LIKE THAT.
05:35:02.248 --> 05:35:04.017
AND AND THEN [inaudible]
05:35:04.083 --> 05:35:05.852
YEAH.
05:35:05.919 --> 05:35:07.887
IT'S NOT JUST I MEAN.
05:35:07.954 --> 05:35:09.255
IT'S NOT ALWAYS THAT SIMPLE FOR
05:35:09.322 --> 05:35:11.858
THEM TO GO AND SAY WELL ACTUALLY
05:35:11.925 --> 05:35:12.592
WHERE YOU SET THE PRESCRIPTION
05:35:12.659 --> 05:35:13.693
HERE.
05:35:13.760 --> 05:35:14.794
AND NOW I'VE CALLED THEM THIS
05:35:14.861 --> 05:35:16.496
CHANGED PERCEPTION OVER THERE
05:35:16.563 --> 05:35:19.566
AND I THINK IT'S A CONTROLLED
05:35:19.632 --> 05:35:21.234
FEDERAL REGULATIONS ARE ABOUT.
05:35:21.301 --> 05:35:23.603
SWITCHING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER --
05:35:23.670 --> 05:35:25.772
ONE PHARMACY TOGETHER SO --
05:35:25.839 --> 05:35:27.874
SO I AGREE THAT WE WANT TO TRY
05:35:27.941 --> 05:35:29.008
TO MOVE TOWARD THE PRESCRIBING
05:35:29.075 --> 05:35:30.610
ACTUALLY I WOULD SAY IS A PER AS
05:35:30.677 --> 05:35:32.045
AS A PHYSICIAN WHO DOES
05:35:32.111 --> 05:35:33.146
PRESCRIPTIONS I PREFER YOU
05:35:33.213 --> 05:35:34.581
PRESCRIBING WHEN I CAN ACTION
05:35:34.647 --> 05:35:35.949
INTERESTING ENOUGH OUR CLINIC AT
05:35:36.015 --> 05:35:37.350
LEAST SO FAR AS I'M AWARE OF
05:35:37.417 --> 05:35:37.984
DOESN'T.
05:35:38.051 --> 05:35:40.887
QUALIFY FOR DOING.
05:35:40.954 --> 05:35:42.021
IN TERMS OF TRYING TO BE DEALT
05:35:42.088 --> 05:35:43.690
FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS SO WE DON'T
05:35:43.756 --> 05:35:45.158
DO OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES AT
05:35:45.225 --> 05:35:45.925
THE MOMENT.
05:35:45.992 --> 05:35:47.627
AYE SO I'M ACTUALLY IF WE COULD
05:35:47.694 --> 05:35:49.662
DO IT YOU PRESCRIBING THAT'S HOW
05:35:49.729 --> 05:35:50.964
WE'D LIKE TO DO IT BECAUSE FOR
05:35:51.030 --> 05:35:52.465
LOTS OF REASONS --
05:35:52.532 --> 05:35:54.100
THE CHALLENGES THAT WHAT HAPPENS
05:35:54.167 --> 05:35:55.335
WHEN.
05:35:55.401 --> 05:35:56.069
YOU'RE TRYING TO DO YOU
05:35:56.135 --> 05:35:58.371
PRESCRIBING BUT THE PATIENTS.
05:35:58.438 --> 05:36:00.373
AS BARRIERS TO THAT IT'S
05:36:00.440 --> 05:36:01.574
ACTUALLY I'M CONCERNED ABOUT
05:36:01.641 --> 05:36:03.343
PATIENTS AND PATIENT ACCESS.
05:36:03.409 --> 05:36:05.011
DOES THAT IT'S THE EXCEPTION NOT
05:36:05.078 --> 05:36:07.146
THE RULE THAT THE CHALLENGE AND
05:36:07.213 --> 05:36:08.748
YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE ALL SORTS OF
05:36:08.815 --> 05:36:10.116
INTERESTING LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES
05:36:10.183 --> 05:36:11.451
THAT MAKE IT MORE CHALLENGING
05:36:11.518 --> 05:36:12.151
AND THEY WANT.
05:36:12.218 --> 05:36:14.487
SOMETIMES THEY MAY WANT TO HAVE
05:36:14.554 --> 05:36:15.421
A PRESCRIPTION AND THAT THEY CAN
05:36:15.488 --> 05:36:16.990
THEN.
05:36:17.056 --> 05:36:18.291
BECAUSE DURING THE PROCESS OF
05:36:18.358 --> 05:36:19.759
SAYING Y. CAN THEN TAKE IT TO
05:36:19.826 --> 05:36:21.895
PARTICULAR TO PHARMACIES THAT
05:36:21.961 --> 05:36:23.263
DECIDED LATER ON BASED ON
05:36:23.329 --> 05:36:24.564
CERTAIN CONVENIENCES
05:36:24.631 --> 05:36:24.864
[inaudible]
05:36:24.931 --> 05:36:25.899
IT CETERA [inaudible]
05:36:25.965 --> 05:36:28.201
GREATER LIFE INSTEAD OF ME
05:36:28.268 --> 05:36:29.802
SENATE TO PARTICULAR PHARMACY IN
05:36:29.869 --> 05:36:31.571
TERMS OF THE CAN'T GET THERE YET
05:36:31.638 --> 05:36:32.171
THING I'D POINT OUT TRIMS ITS
05:36:32.238 --> 05:36:33.406
TRACING.
05:36:33.473 --> 05:36:34.841
IS THAT WE DO WE BECAUSE OF
05:36:34.908 --> 05:36:36.976
CURES WEEK AFTER FILE EVERYTHING
05:36:37.043 --> 05:36:38.344
AND REGISTER WITH YOUR SO THERE
05:36:38.411 --> 05:36:39.412
IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT YOU
05:36:39.479 --> 05:36:41.180
CANCEL TRACK IT SURE OF COURSE
05:36:41.247 --> 05:36:42.582
IDEALLY <c.green> PRESCRIBING IS THE</c>
05:36:42.649 --> 05:36:44.450
BEST WAY I THINK THAT'S WHAT
05:36:44.517 --> 05:36:45.618
PROVIDERS WILL DO --
05:36:45.685 --> 05:36:47.287
IF THAT THEY HAVE A CHOICE I
05:36:47.353 --> 05:36:48.755
THINK THE CROWD THE CHALLENGES
05:36:48.821 --> 05:36:53.059
IS THAT PERCENTAGE OF PATIENTS --
05:36:53.126 --> 05:36:54.160
TO MAY HAVE SOME DIFFICULTY OF
05:36:54.227 --> 05:36:55.929
GIVEN.
05:36:55.995 --> 05:36:57.363
CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES IN LIFE
05:36:57.430 --> 05:36:58.831
FOR OTHER TYPES OF THINGS AND I
05:36:58.898 --> 05:37:00.333
HOPE THAT AND I KNOW YOU TOOK A
05:37:00.400 --> 05:37:02.368
LOT AMENDMENTS I APPRECIATE THAT.
05:37:02.435 --> 05:37:03.937
I THINK I I HOPE THAT WE CAN
05:37:04.003 --> 05:37:05.238
CONSIDER THAT IF A PATIENT IS
05:37:05.305 --> 05:37:07.140
NOT ABLE.
05:37:07.206 --> 05:37:07.807
TO YOU KNOW --
05:37:07.874 --> 05:37:08.975
BUT CONFIDENCE IDENTIFY THE
05:37:09.042 --> 05:37:10.310
PRIMARY PHARMACY [inaudible]
05:37:10.376 --> 05:37:13.079
THAT -- THAT
05:37:13.146 --> 05:37:13.713
YOU KNOW THAT'S A PATIENT THAT'S
05:37:13.780 --> 05:37:14.981
NOT.
05:37:15.048 --> 05:37:16.115
THAT'S NOT ME THE PRESCRIBER
05:37:16.182 --> 05:37:18.017
SAYING THAT THAT WE HAVE SOME
05:37:18.084 --> 05:37:18.651
FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO MEET
05:37:18.718 --> 05:37:23.489
OUR PATIENTS --
05:37:23.556 --> 05:37:24.524
WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO
05:37:24.591 --> 05:37:27.093
THAT DOCTOR WHO I AM WHAT FIVE
05:37:27.160 --> 05:37:28.127
HOMELESSNESS HERE OF THAT TOO
05:37:28.194 --> 05:37:29.195
RESPONSE.
05:37:29.262 --> 05:37:29.862
TO PART OF IT I THINK COVERS AS
05:37:29.929 --> 05:37:31.564
WE HAD WAS EARLIER TODAY THAT'S
05:37:31.631 --> 05:37:32.131
A REALLY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF
05:37:32.198 --> 05:37:34.200
PATIENTS.
05:37:34.267 --> 05:37:35.435
AND IT MAY AND I AGREE THAT IT
05:37:35.501 --> 05:37:36.970
MAY ESTIMATES ACCOUNT WE TOOK
05:37:37.036 --> 05:37:38.104
NUMEROUS --
05:37:38.171 --> 05:37:40.039
EXEMPTIONS TO THIS QUITE FRANKLY
05:37:40.106 --> 05:37:42.141
WE ACTUALLY CONSULTED WITH THE A
05:37:42.208 --> 05:37:43.876
PAST PRESIDENT OF THE UNIT AND
05:37:43.943 --> 05:37:46.045
IN NEW YORK A MERIT A COLLEGE OF
05:37:46.112 --> 05:37:47.347
EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS.
05:37:47.413 --> 05:37:49.349
THAT HAS THIS IN PLACE NOW AND
05:37:49.415 --> 05:37:50.984
THEY THEY SAID THAT YOU KNOW
05:37:51.050 --> 05:37:51.918
THEY THEY DID HAVE STRUGGLES
05:37:51.985 --> 05:37:53.653
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT BUT
05:37:53.720 --> 05:37:55.355
WE READ THEM THE LIST OF
05:37:55.421 --> 05:37:56.356
AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE TAKING
05:37:56.422 --> 05:37:56.789
HERE.
05:37:56.856 --> 05:37:58.925
THE EXCEPTIONS HERE AND THEY
05:37:58.992 --> 05:38:00.360
SAID WELL IF WE'D HAD THAT.
05:38:00.426 --> 05:38:01.728
OUR LIFE WOULD BE A LOT EASIER
05:38:01.794 --> 05:38:06.265
HERE AND YOU REGARDS.
05:38:06.332 --> 05:38:07.400
TO THIS WEEK WE'VE DELAYED THE
05:38:07.467 --> 05:38:08.835
IMPLEMENTATION THIS TO THREE
05:38:08.901 --> 05:38:10.269
YEARS TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO
05:38:10.336 --> 05:38:11.037
WORK THROUGH A LOT OF THESE
05:38:11.104 --> 05:38:12.205
ISSUES I THINK THAT THAT IS
05:38:12.271 --> 05:38:13.606
THAT'S HELPFUL.
05:38:13.673 --> 05:38:15.541
WITH REGARDS TO PHARMACIES --
05:38:15.608 --> 05:38:16.943
THE PATIENT IF THEY GO TO A
05:38:17.010 --> 05:38:18.578
PHARMACY.
05:38:18.645 --> 05:38:19.946
THAT IS OTHER THAN WHAT WAS
05:38:20.013 --> 05:38:21.514
ELECTRONICALLY PRESCRIBED THEY
05:38:21.581 --> 05:38:22.815
CAN ASK THE PHARMACIST TO
05:38:22.882 --> 05:38:24.250
TRANSMIT FROM THAT OTHER
05:38:24.317 --> 05:38:26.052
PHARMACY THAT IS PART OF THE
05:38:26.119 --> 05:38:26.753
BILL.
05:38:26.819 --> 05:38:28.021
THERE IS A TRANSMISSION PART OF
05:38:28.087 --> 05:38:29.756
THIS THAT AND IT IS IT IS IN
05:38:29.822 --> 05:38:31.958
THERE AND AND I SO I DON'T THINK
05:38:32.025 --> 05:38:33.493
IT IS AS ONEROUS AS AND YOU
05:38:33.559 --> 05:38:34.827
YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD THAT IS
05:38:34.894 --> 05:38:38.131
PART OF OUR AMENDMENTS --
05:38:38.197 --> 05:38:39.799
ONCE AGAIN AND I RECOGNIZE THAT
05:38:39.866 --> 05:38:40.800
WE ARE WE ARE --
05:38:40.867 --> 05:38:42.001
WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE
05:38:42.068 --> 05:38:42.869
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES PART OF
05:38:42.935 --> 05:38:44.937
THIS BUT I I'M CONFIDENT THAT IN
05:38:45.004 --> 05:38:46.305
THE THREE YEAR PERIOD THAT WE'RE
05:38:46.372 --> 05:38:47.607
GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT I
05:38:47.674 --> 05:38:48.574
KNOW THAT CHANGE IS AN EASY.
05:38:48.641 --> 05:38:49.876
WENT OVER LIKE TO DO THINGS THE
05:38:49.942 --> 05:38:51.544
WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THEM BUT
05:38:51.611 --> 05:38:52.945
YOU KNOW I THINK.
05:38:53.012 --> 05:38:54.514
I THINK THAT THERE WE HAVE
05:38:54.580 --> 05:38:55.081
WORKED REALLY EXTENSIVELY ON
05:38:55.148 --> 05:38:57.950
THIS AND ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES
05:38:58.017 --> 05:38:59.819
WE HAVE WERE NOT LEADING.
05:38:59.886 --> 05:39:01.287
THE CHARGE HERE WE ARE CUTTING
05:39:01.354 --> 05:39:03.189
HALF WAY THROUGH THE PACK.
05:39:03.256 --> 05:39:04.691
SO WE CAN LEARN FROM THE OTHER
05:39:04.757 --> 05:39:06.492
EX THAT DIFFERENCES OF THE OTHER
05:39:06.559 --> 05:39:07.860
STATES AS THEY IMPLEMENTED IN
05:39:07.927 --> 05:39:09.429
NEW YORK ONE OF THE THINGS I
05:39:09.495 --> 05:39:10.496
FOUND.
05:39:10.563 --> 05:39:11.798
THEY'VE BEEN THEY'VE HAD TO DO
05:39:11.864 --> 05:39:14.767
IT PRESCRIBED SINCE TWO THOUSAND
05:39:14.834 --> 05:39:15.334
SIXTEEN SO THEY WERE WAY IN
05:39:15.401 --> 05:39:16.569
FRONT OF IT WHICHWILL BE SIX
05:39:16.636 --> 05:39:17.303
YEARS BEFORE OUR REQUIREMENTS
05:39:17.370 --> 05:39:19.305
KICKIN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
05:39:19.372 --> 05:39:20.440
THEY GOT IT'S A BENEFIT WITH
05:39:20.506 --> 05:39:22.075
DOCTOR SHOPPING DROPPED
05:39:22.141 --> 05:39:23.776
DRAMATICALLY I THINK IT'S LIKE
05:39:23.843 --> 05:39:24.644
7990%.
05:39:24.711 --> 05:39:26.312
ON WITHIN A YEAR TO OF DOING
05:39:26.379 --> 05:39:28.448
THIS WHICH IS A BENEFIT FOR THE
05:39:28.514 --> 05:39:29.816
OPIOID CRISIS --
05:39:29.882 --> 05:39:32.919
AND WITH RESPECT TO YOUR CONCERN
05:39:32.985 --> 05:39:34.887
ABOUT ON HOW YOU CAN CANCEL
05:39:34.954 --> 05:39:36.522
PRESCRIPTION THIRD ONE OF THE
05:39:36.589 --> 05:39:38.191
LARGEST SOFTWARE VENDORS US THE
05:39:38.257 --> 05:39:39.459
SWITCHING COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY
05:39:39.525 --> 05:39:40.393
DOES MOST OF THIS.
05:39:40.460 --> 05:39:41.928
ACTUALLY HAS A SYSTEM THAT
05:39:41.994 --> 05:39:43.863
ALLOWS THAT THAT.
05:39:43.930 --> 05:39:45.331
PRESCRIPTION BE CANCELED OR IT
05:39:45.398 --> 05:39:46.999
ALLOWS IT TO BE TRANSFERRED AND
05:39:47.066 --> 05:39:49.001
WITH RESPONSE TO THE D. E. A. IN
05:39:49.068 --> 05:39:50.570
THEIR PENDING RAGS WHO KNOWS
05:39:50.636 --> 05:39:51.871
WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO.
05:39:51.938 --> 05:39:53.406
WE LEARNED IN THE NINETEEN
05:39:53.473 --> 05:39:54.173
NINETIES I'VE BEEN WITH THE
05:39:54.240 --> 05:39:56.576
PORTS ALONG IN NINETEEN NINETY
05:39:56.642 --> 05:39:57.376
FIVE WE HEARD THE D. E. A. WITH.
05:39:57.443 --> 05:39:58.177
DOING RAGS TO PERMIT THE
05:39:58.244 --> 05:40:01.247
PRESCRIBED EIGHTEEN YEARS TO
05:40:01.314 --> 05:40:02.548
DEVELOP THOSE RIGHTS MEANWHILE
05:40:02.615 --> 05:40:03.883
WE PASSED A STATUTE WE ARE
05:40:03.950 --> 05:40:06.085
CERTAIN ON THE SIDELINES WAITING.
05:40:06.152 --> 05:40:07.820
FOR THE DA IS WORKING ON THEM
05:40:07.887 --> 05:40:09.322
ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I ALSO
05:40:09.388 --> 05:40:11.190
RAISED WITH THE MANAGER OF THE
05:40:11.257 --> 05:40:12.358
UNIT OVERSEEING THAT THE
05:40:12.425 --> 05:40:14.861
REGULATIONS WAS IN FACT WHAT DO
05:40:14.927 --> 05:40:16.395
YOU DO WHEN THE PATIENT NEEDS TO
05:40:16.462 --> 05:40:17.697
TRANSFER THE PRESCRIPTION.
05:40:17.764 --> 05:40:18.731
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW UNDER CURRENT
05:40:18.798 --> 05:40:19.966
REQUIREMENTS FOR THE D. E. A.
05:40:20.032 --> 05:40:21.367
THEY DON'T WANT YOU TRANSFER A
05:40:21.434 --> 05:40:22.969
PRESCRIPTION NEVER FAILED AND
05:40:23.035 --> 05:40:24.103
HERE WE'RE TALKING PRETTY MUCH
05:40:24.170 --> 05:40:25.404
ABOUT A SEAT.
05:40:25.471 --> 05:40:28.040
TO SO SO FOR US WE SEE ALL THE
05:40:28.107 --> 05:40:29.976
BENEFITS COMING AND WITH SIX
05:40:30.042 --> 05:40:32.145
YEARS TO IMPLEMENT I THINK BUT
05:40:32.211 --> 05:40:34.147
CALIFORNIA GOOD SPOT OR WELL FOR
05:40:34.213 --> 05:40:34.647
YEARS NOW.
05:40:34.714 --> 05:40:36.616
TEND TO BE WELL POSITIONED TO DO
05:40:36.682 --> 05:40:38.050
THIS BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY'S
05:40:38.117 --> 05:40:39.285
GOING TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE AND
05:40:39.352 --> 05:40:40.153
EVOLVE.
05:40:40.219 --> 05:40:41.954
AND WE WILL BE BETTER POSITIONED
05:40:42.021 --> 05:40:43.823
IN ORDER TO DO IT BUT THERE ARE
05:40:43.890 --> 05:40:44.624
VENDORS OUT THERE WORKING ON IT
05:40:44.690 --> 05:40:46.726
AND THROUGH THE EXPERIENCE OF
05:40:46.793 --> 05:40:48.528
NEW YORK WOULD BE SIMILAR TO
05:40:48.594 --> 05:40:50.463
OURS IN SOME WAYS WE CAN LEARN
05:40:50.530 --> 05:40:51.798
FROM THEIR MISTAKES.
05:40:51.864 --> 05:40:52.431
BUT THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH
05:40:52.498 --> 05:40:54.567
IT.
05:40:54.634 --> 05:40:56.035
LIKE THAT BY THE FINAL THING I'D
05:40:56.102 --> 05:40:57.270
LIKE TO ADD IS THAT --
05:40:57.336 --> 05:40:59.005
OF OPPOSITION ALSO BROUGHT UP A
05:40:59.071 --> 05:41:00.339
WILL WOULD JUST PRINT OUT THE
05:41:00.406 --> 05:41:01.541
THAT THE PRESCRIPTION GIVEN TO
05:41:01.607 --> 05:41:03.209
THE PATIENT TO ME THAT'S STILL
05:41:03.276 --> 05:41:05.144
AN ARE THAT'S ON OPPORTUNITY FOR
05:41:05.211 --> 05:41:07.580
FRAUD ME WE SIMPLY CLEVER PEOPLE
05:41:07.647 --> 05:41:08.014
OUT THERE THAT WITH.
05:41:08.080 --> 05:41:10.149
WITH AND SIMPLE TECHNOLOGY TO
05:41:10.216 --> 05:41:11.784
THEY COULD OVERRIDE THAT AND SO.
05:41:11.851 --> 05:41:13.085
PURPOSE FOR THE ELECTRONIC
05:41:13.152 --> 05:41:14.887
TRANSMISSION IS TO TAKE IT OUT
05:41:14.954 --> 05:41:16.255
OF THE HANDS OF THE PATIENT
05:41:16.322 --> 05:41:18.324
PATIENT TWO TO REDUCE THE THE
05:41:18.391 --> 05:41:19.792
ABUSE REDUCE THE FRAUD.
05:41:19.859 --> 05:41:21.494
AND AND THE AMBIGUITY THAT GOES
05:41:21.561 --> 05:41:22.995
ALONG WITH EVEN IF EVEN IF
05:41:23.062 --> 05:41:24.730
POTENTIALLY PRINTED PRESCRIPTION.
05:41:24.797 --> 05:41:30.469
THAT IF YOU HAD A RESPONSE
05:41:30.536 --> 05:41:30.770
[inaudible]
05:41:30.837 --> 05:41:32.305
THAT.
05:41:32.371 --> 05:41:33.539
SWITCHING FROM UP OR THE
05:41:33.606 --> 05:41:34.941
TRANSFERRING OF PHARMACIES AYE
05:41:35.007 --> 05:41:36.876
IT'S CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
05:41:36.943 --> 05:41:38.611
SPECIFICALLY I THINK THIS GETS.
05:41:38.678 --> 05:41:39.278
TO I HAD THE EMERGENCY
05:41:39.345 --> 05:41:40.479
PHYSICIANS POINT IS THAT
05:41:40.546 --> 05:41:41.647
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES ONCE ARE
05:41:41.714 --> 05:41:43.282
SENT TO A PHARMACY CAN'T BE
05:41:43.349 --> 05:41:44.784
TRANSFERRED BETWEEN PHARMACIES
05:41:44.851 --> 05:41:46.252
THAT HOUSE YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY
05:41:46.319 --> 05:41:47.854
GO BACK TO YOUR DOCTOR AND CALL
05:41:47.920 --> 05:41:49.021
AND HAVE THEM RESEND.
05:41:49.088 --> 05:41:50.223
YOUR PRESCRIPTION TO A NEW
05:41:50.289 --> 05:41:51.057
PHARMACY [inaudible]
05:41:51.123 --> 05:41:52.725
UP.
05:41:52.792 --> 05:41:54.227
BECAUSE OF THE DEAR OLD AROUND
05:41:54.293 --> 05:41:56.195
THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES AND SO
05:41:56.262 --> 05:41:57.296
I THINK TO THE PHYSICIAN
05:41:57.363 --> 05:41:58.664
EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS POINT IS IN
05:41:58.731 --> 05:42:00.600
THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT IF THEY
05:42:00.666 --> 05:42:01.334
ARE SENDING SOMETHING TO A
05:42:01.400 --> 05:42:02.268
PHARMACY.
05:42:02.335 --> 05:42:03.536
UP AND TUCKED TO DOCTOR PANTS
05:42:03.603 --> 05:42:05.271
POINT IF SOMEONE DOESN'T AYE YOU
05:42:05.338 --> 05:42:07.039
KNOW IDENTIFIES ONE AND MAYBE
05:42:07.106 --> 05:42:07.940
THAT ISN'T THE ONE THAT THEY
05:42:08.007 --> 05:42:09.275
HAVE TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO
05:42:09.342 --> 05:42:10.977
YOU OR ONCE THEY GET THERE THEY
05:42:11.043 --> 05:42:12.278
FIND THAT THAT PHARMACY DOESN'T
05:42:12.345 --> 05:42:12.845
HAVE.
05:42:12.912 --> 05:42:16.182
THEIR MEDICATION AND STOCK ABOUT.
05:42:16.249 --> 05:42:17.817
TO THEIR PHYSICIAN WHETHER IT'S
05:42:17.884 --> 05:42:19.452
IN THE ARE WHEREVER IT IS AND
05:42:19.518 --> 05:42:20.553
GET A HOLD OF THEM TO HAVE THEM
05:42:20.620 --> 05:42:21.988
SENT THAT PRESCRIPTION TO A NEW
05:42:22.054 --> 05:42:24.557
PHARMACY.BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL RULES
05:42:24.624 --> 05:42:25.091
THAT DON'T ALLOW THEM TO
05:42:25.157 --> 05:42:25.958
TRANSFER.
05:42:26.025 --> 05:42:27.560
BETWEEN PHARMACIES.
05:42:27.627 --> 05:42:28.527
CURRENTLY WITH THE PAPER
05:42:28.594 --> 05:42:29.795
PRESCRIPTION IF YOU HAVE THAT IN
05:42:29.862 --> 05:42:31.030
HAND HAT THEY CAN GIVE IT BACK
05:42:31.097 --> 05:42:32.098
TO YOU AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT
05:42:32.164 --> 05:42:33.900
ORIGINAL PRESCRIPTION. TO A NEW
05:42:33.966 --> 05:42:35.034
PHARMACY.
05:42:35.101 --> 05:42:36.502
AND THEY WILL PHILIP THERE
05:42:36.569 --> 05:42:37.837
BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ORIGINAL
05:42:37.904 --> 05:42:38.938
BUT WITH E. PRESCRIBING THERE'S
05:42:39.005 --> 05:42:40.539
NO WAY TO DO THAT YOU JUST HAVE
05:42:40.606 --> 05:42:41.641
TO GET BACK TO YOUR POSITION TO
05:42:41.707 --> 05:42:43.309
GET A NEW ONE AND I THINK THAT'S
05:42:43.376 --> 05:42:44.610
THE CHALLENGE IN THOSE
05:42:44.677 --> 05:42:46.245
CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE.
05:42:46.312 --> 05:42:47.146
THE PHARMACY DOESN'T HAVE IN
05:42:47.213 --> 05:42:49.715
STOCK OR WHERE THEY'RE NOT OPEN --
05:42:49.782 --> 05:42:50.483
OR MAYBE IT'S THROUGH THE
05:42:50.549 --> 05:42:52.051
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT I KNOW THAT
05:42:52.118 --> 05:42:54.654
SOMETIMES IT SO IT'S AVAILABLE
05:42:54.720 --> 05:42:55.888
TO GET BACK TO YOUR PHYSICIAN
05:42:55.955 --> 05:42:57.456
HAVE THEM CHANGE IT EASILY.
05:42:57.523 --> 05:42:58.190
BUT IT'S THE CONTROLLED
05:42:58.257 --> 05:42:59.825
SUBSTANCES SPECIFICALLY THE
05:42:59.892 --> 05:43:01.160
PRESENT CAN OF THE HURDLES.
05:43:01.227 --> 05:43:01.560
POINT [inaudible]
05:43:01.627 --> 05:43:05.965
I I SEE YOU I DID LOOK IN THE SO
05:43:06.032 --> 05:43:07.166
IN THE IN A LEGISLATION THAT THE
05:43:07.233 --> 05:43:08.968
U. DID ALLOW.
05:43:09.035 --> 05:43:09.969
FOR A PHARMACY THAT RECEIVES
05:43:10.036 --> 05:43:11.437
ELECTRONIC DATA TREACHERY
05:43:11.504 --> 05:43:13.172
TRANSCRIPTION WANTED SENT BUT
05:43:13.239 --> 05:43:15.207
THAT DOES NOT APPLY THEM. TO TO
05:43:15.274 --> 05:43:17.176
THE SCHEDULED DRUG BECAUSE OF
05:43:17.243 --> 05:43:18.077
THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT
05:43:18.144 --> 05:43:20.079
WHAT I'M HEARING.
05:43:20.146 --> 05:43:21.247
THE MORE RESTRICTIVE SKIT WITH
05:43:21.314 --> 05:43:22.515
THE MORE RESTRICTIVE REQUIREMENT
05:43:22.581 --> 05:43:24.283
WILL GENERALLY TAKE PRECEDENCE
05:43:24.350 --> 05:43:25.985
IN THAT CASE BUT AGAIN THE DA
05:43:26.052 --> 05:43:28.020
ARE WORKING IS WORKING TO MODIFY
05:43:28.087 --> 05:43:29.455
ITS IN LIGHT OF THE CRISIS
05:43:29.522 --> 05:43:30.890
BECAUSE OF THE EAP DESCRIBING.
05:43:30.957 --> 05:43:32.959
IS VIEWED AS ONE OF THE PRIMARY
05:43:33.025 --> 05:43:34.627
MEANS BY WHICH WE CAN ADDRESS.
05:43:34.694 --> 05:43:36.929
THANK YOU BYE FEARFUL.
05:43:36.996 --> 05:43:38.864
A I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I I
05:43:38.931 --> 05:43:40.399
THINK THE INTENT OF THIS IS IS
05:43:40.466 --> 05:43:41.200
REALLY GOOD.
05:43:41.267 --> 05:43:43.269
BUT I THINK.
05:43:43.336 --> 05:43:45.071
AND RUB LARGER RULE AREA MY
05:43:45.137 --> 05:43:46.472
DISTRICT GOES FROM BY CELLULAR
05:43:46.539 --> 05:43:47.873
TO NEEDLES.
05:43:47.940 --> 05:43:49.408
AND SO.
05:43:49.475 --> 05:43:50.443
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR MY DISTRICT
05:43:50.509 --> 05:43:52.445
THAT THERE ARE VARIOUS
05:43:52.511 --> 05:43:54.714
CHALLENGES FOR THE RULE AREAS AT
05:43:54.780 --> 05:43:55.748
THIS TIME GIVEN THE STATE OF THE
05:43:55.815 --> 05:43:57.249
SOFTWARE.
05:43:57.316 --> 05:43:58.517
AND I I KNOW MYSELF THAT I HAVE
05:43:58.584 --> 05:44:00.386
GONE.
05:44:00.453 --> 05:44:01.887
FULL OF TIMES TO A COUPLE OF
05:44:01.954 --> 05:44:03.689
DIFFERENT OF PHARMACIES BECAUSE
05:44:03.756 --> 05:44:05.424
THEY DON'T HAVE IT AT THAT
05:44:05.491 --> 05:44:07.293
MOMENT OR THEY DIDN'T CARRY
05:44:07.360 --> 05:44:07.860
BECAUSE WERE RULED THEY JUST
05:44:07.927 --> 05:44:08.794
DON'T.
05:44:08.861 --> 05:44:10.429
IS DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING AND AND
05:44:10.496 --> 05:44:12.832
MY DOCTOR IS A GREAT DOCTOR BUT
05:44:12.898 --> 05:44:15.534
HE'S REALLY REALLY STRUGGLING A
05:44:15.601 --> 05:44:16.002
WONDERING WHY CAME TO
05:44:16.068 --> 05:44:18.070
BAKERSFIELD.
05:44:18.137 --> 05:44:19.472
AT THIS POINT AND WE'RE LOSING
05:44:19.538 --> 05:44:21.540
POSITIONS --
05:44:21.607 --> 05:44:23.509
AND I DON'T I DON'T.
05:44:23.576 --> 05:44:26.078
I DON'T FEEL THAT MY RURAL AREAS
05:44:26.145 --> 05:44:27.446
ARE REALLY READY FOR THIS YET.
05:44:27.513 --> 05:44:30.783
A IN MANY WAYS BUT I I THINK
05:44:30.850 --> 05:44:31.584
THAT IF WE COULD MAKE
05:44:31.650 --> 05:44:34.487
TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGHS.
05:44:34.553 --> 05:44:35.521
AND WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO
05:44:35.588 --> 05:44:38.657
HELP THEM VERY RULE AREAS THEN I
05:44:38.724 --> 05:44:40.393
WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE AND MAYBE
05:44:40.459 --> 05:44:42.595
THERE'S SOME WAY. TO WORK WITH
05:44:42.661 --> 05:44:43.195
SOME OF THE OTHERS TO COME UP
05:44:43.262 --> 05:44:44.463
WITH.
05:44:44.530 --> 05:44:45.664
SOMETHING THAT COULD HELP WITH
05:44:45.731 --> 05:44:46.732
THAT AND I'D BE WILLING TO
05:44:46.799 --> 05:44:47.566
CHANGE MY VOTE LATER ON THE
05:44:47.633 --> 05:44:50.603
FLOOR.
05:44:50.669 --> 05:44:51.804
GRETA CLOSING JUST WITHOUT AND A
05:44:51.871 --> 05:44:53.472
COUPLE OF COMMENTS FIRST OF ALL.
05:44:53.539 --> 05:44:55.041
OF YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR
05:44:55.107 --> 05:44:56.442
OPPOSITION YOUR COMMENTS THERE
05:44:56.509 --> 05:44:57.943
ACTUALLY WERE NOT REFLECTED IN
05:44:58.010 --> 05:44:59.412
THE EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION WE
05:44:59.478 --> 05:45:01.080
HAD LAST WEEK SO THAT IS.
05:45:01.147 --> 05:45:02.214
BELOW SURPRISED THAT THE
05:45:02.281 --> 05:45:04.116
DISCONNECT THERE THAT WAS NOT
05:45:04.183 --> 05:45:05.918
THAT THAT WAS NOT A BASIS OF
05:45:05.985 --> 05:45:08.320
YOUR OPPOSITION TO TO THE BILL.
05:45:08.387 --> 05:45:09.522
AND WITH --
05:45:09.588 --> 05:45:10.156
SENT SENATOR FULLER I APPRECIATE
05:45:10.222 --> 05:45:13.159
THAT.
05:45:13.225 --> 05:45:15.061
LARGEST CITY IN MY DISTRICT HOW
05:45:15.127 --> 05:45:16.495
I REALLY REPRESENT HALF OF ITS
05:45:16.562 --> 05:45:17.696
BY EIGHTY THOUSAND PEOPLE AFTER
05:45:17.763 --> 05:45:19.865
THAT IT DROPPED OFF.
05:45:19.932 --> 05:45:20.466
TO TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND SO I
05:45:20.533 --> 05:45:22.668
UNDERSTAND RURAL CHALLENGES IT
05:45:22.735 --> 05:45:23.602
AS AS AS TO YOU.
05:45:23.669 --> 05:45:26.305
BUT WE BELIEVE BASED ON OUR OUR
05:45:26.372 --> 05:45:29.141
WORK WITH THE OF THE PHARMACY --
05:45:29.208 --> 05:45:30.443
PHARMACISTS IN OUR AREA THAT
05:45:30.509 --> 05:45:32.078
THAT THE TECHNOLOGY DOES EXIST
05:45:32.144 --> 05:45:33.112
TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
05:45:33.179 --> 05:45:36.348
AND AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SPACE
05:45:36.415 --> 05:45:37.783
AGE AT THIS POINT --
05:45:37.850 --> 05:45:38.951
THERE WOULD THERE STILL MAY BE
05:45:39.018 --> 05:45:40.619
CHALLENGES WITH SUPPLIES AND
05:45:40.686 --> 05:45:42.054
WHICH IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE BUT
05:45:42.121 --> 05:45:43.456
THAT IS NOT A TECHNOLOGICAL
05:45:43.522 --> 05:45:45.624
ISSUE AND AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT
05:45:45.691 --> 05:45:46.926
WE'RE THROUGH REALLY WHAT WE'RE
05:45:46.992 --> 05:45:49.929
FOCUSING ON ABOUT IT.
05:45:49.995 --> 05:45:51.564
PRETTY CRITICAL CENTER GREATER.
05:45:51.630 --> 05:45:53.499
STATE THAT DOES THIS GO TO HELP
05:45:53.566 --> 05:45:54.500
MAX AT WHERE IS THIS SO.
05:45:54.567 --> 05:45:55.568
WHERE IS IS IN THE PROCESS
05:45:55.634 --> 05:45:57.436
APPROPRIATIONS?
05:45:57.503 --> 05:45:58.437
BECAUSE YOU APPROPRIATIONS USES
05:45:58.504 --> 05:46:02.942
HURTING HEALTH.
05:46:03.008 --> 05:46:03.843
WE'RE GOOD OUTTAKE THAT IS YOUR
05:46:03.909 --> 05:46:06.145
CLOSER DOCTOR WOULD AND WE HAVE
05:46:06.212 --> 05:46:07.513
A MOTION FROM SENATOR DODD.
05:46:07.580 --> 05:46:10.416
OF PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
05:46:10.483 --> 05:46:11.484
SHE HAS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
05:46:11.550 --> 05:46:13.686
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS.
05:46:13.752 --> 05:46:14.987
HEALTH AYE HILL AYE FULLER
05:46:15.054 --> 05:46:15.287
[inaudible]
05:46:15.354 --> 05:46:16.122
FULLER NOW [inaudible]
05:46:16.188 --> 05:46:17.556
ALLEN.
05:46:17.623 --> 05:46:19.692
ALLEN AYE DODD.
05:46:19.758 --> 05:46:21.460
I THOUGHT I GALGIANI.
05:46:21.527 --> 05:46:24.029
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
05:46:24.096 --> 05:46:25.197
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ AYE
05:46:25.264 --> 05:46:29.034
HERNANDEZ AYE PAN.
05:46:29.101 --> 05:46:35.541
LOOK THERE WILL I THE BILL HAS
05:46:35.608 --> 05:46:37.243
SEVEN VOTES TO ONE AND IT IS OUT
05:46:37.309 --> 05:46:39.545
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:46:39.612 --> 05:46:40.880
CREATED TO WHAT YOU.
05:46:40.946 --> 05:46:42.281
ARE FINAL BILL OF THE DAY
05:46:42.348 --> 05:46:43.649
ASSEMBLYMEMBER COOLEY ITEM
05:46:43.716 --> 05:46:46.051
NUMBER TWENTY EIGHT AB
05:46:46.118 --> 05:46:47.853
[inaudible] TWENTY NINE
05:46:47.920 --> 05:46:49.155
FOURTEEN YEAH.
05:46:49.221 --> 05:46:55.094
THERE IS A PATIENT MAN.
05:46:55.161 --> 05:46:59.732
I WILL WE WILL HOPE THAT --
05:46:59.798 --> 05:47:02.701
THE HARSH WOULD LEAST RECEIVED A
05:47:02.768 --> 05:47:04.003
Q. HEAD.
05:47:04.069 --> 05:47:04.870
ALI SAKE YOU VERY MUCH IT'S BEEN
05:47:04.937 --> 05:47:06.238
A PLEASURE TO ENJOY YOUR
05:47:06.305 --> 05:47:09.875
COMMITTEE A WORK TODAY ACTUALLY --
05:47:09.942 --> 05:47:12.077
I'M HERE TDAY TO PRESENT AB
05:47:12.144 --> 05:47:12.912
TWENTY NINE FOURTEEN RELATING TO
05:47:12.978 --> 05:47:14.680
ALCOHOL AND CANNABIS
05:47:14.747 --> 05:47:14.980
[inaudible]
05:47:15.047 --> 05:47:18.784
ON STUDIES HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT
05:47:18.851 --> 05:47:19.818
ANY AMOUNT.
05:47:19.885 --> 05:47:20.819
WHAT WOULD YOU GO TO A CERTAIN
05:47:20.886 --> 05:47:22.154
POINT OF ALL CALLED YOUR SYSTEM
05:47:22.221 --> 05:47:23.923
IT GREATLY AMPLIFIES THE IMPACT
05:47:23.989 --> 05:47:25.457
OF CANNABIS?
05:47:25.524 --> 05:47:27.259
TEACH YOU ON THE SYSTEM THAT.
05:47:27.326 --> 05:47:30.029
THE TWO SUBSTANCES ANORAK TO
05:47:30.095 --> 05:47:33.265
AMPLIFY THE IMPACT OF T. HC AND
05:47:33.332 --> 05:47:34.767
WAYS WE DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND.
05:47:34.833 --> 05:47:36.502
AS A CONSEQUENCE THAT MEANS HE'S
05:47:36.569 --> 05:47:38.270
TWO THINGS HAVE TOGETHER PRESENT
05:47:38.337 --> 05:47:39.004
A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PUBLIC
05:47:39.071 --> 05:47:40.639
SAFETY.
05:47:40.706 --> 05:47:42.141
AND PUBLIC HEALTH RISK THAN
05:47:42.208 --> 05:47:43.842
THESE TWO STANDING ALONE.
05:47:43.909 --> 05:47:45.578
I RECOGNIZED SINISTER PART OF
05:47:45.644 --> 05:47:46.445
PUBLIC HEALTH HAS PUT
05:47:46.512 --> 05:47:47.746
RESTRICTIONS.
05:47:47.813 --> 05:47:49.715
IN THEIR REGULATIONS.
05:47:49.782 --> 05:47:52.351
A ON HOW.
05:47:52.418 --> 05:47:57.022
INFUSION OF ALCOHOL WITH --
05:47:57.089 --> 05:47:59.491
CANNABIS I CAN PROCEED BECAUSE
05:47:59.558 --> 05:48:00.693
THE ERECTION.
05:48:00.759 --> 05:48:02.761
BETWEEN THESE TWO THINGS.
05:48:02.828 --> 05:48:04.630
THIS BILL SIMPLY TAKES THE WORK
05:48:04.697 --> 05:48:05.598
ON THE PART OF PUBLIC HEALTH IN
05:48:05.664 --> 05:48:07.833
THIS AREA DEALING WITH THESE.
05:48:07.900 --> 05:48:09.335
A TWO SUBSYSTEM GATHER AND
05:48:09.401 --> 05:48:11.370
CODIFIES IT.
05:48:11.437 --> 05:48:12.304
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD BILL
05:48:12.371 --> 05:48:13.606
ADDRESSES THIS [inaudible]
05:48:13.672 --> 05:48:16.542
ISSUE OF THE CONCURRENT AFFECT
05:48:16.609 --> 05:48:18.344
IS AMPLIFIED IN A PUTS IT IN
05:48:18.410 --> 05:48:19.912
STATUTE WHERE WE CAN KEEP AN EYE
05:48:19.979 --> 05:48:21.280
ON IT.
05:48:21.347 --> 05:48:23.882
I WILL BE TAKEN AMENDMENTS --
05:48:23.949 --> 05:48:25.651
THIS GOES NEXT TO GEO.
05:48:25.718 --> 05:48:27.119
IN THE GEO COMMITTEE I DO
05:48:27.186 --> 05:48:28.420
ANTICIPATE TAKING AMENDMENTS
05:48:28.487 --> 05:48:28.721
[inaudible]
05:48:28.787 --> 05:48:31.090
ARMED TO CLARIFY [inaudible]
05:48:31.156 --> 05:48:33.292
THAT.
05:48:33.359 --> 05:48:35.160
IS TO PREVENT THE SALE OF
05:48:35.227 --> 05:48:36.762
CANNABIS AND CANVAS PRODUCTS ON
05:48:36.829 --> 05:48:39.064
ALCOHOL LICENSEES PURPOSES.
05:48:39.131 --> 05:48:40.399
CONSIST WITH THE STRUCTURE OF
05:48:40.466 --> 05:48:42.134
CURRENT LAW AND REGULATION.
05:48:42.201 --> 05:48:43.902
SO THAT'S THE BILL ITS A
05:48:43.969 --> 05:48:46.005
CODIFICATION RAKES IT ADDRESSES
05:48:46.071 --> 05:48:47.172
THIS CONCURRENT OF FACT.
05:48:47.239 --> 05:48:49.041
OUR QUESTION I VOTE I THINK YOU
05:48:49.108 --> 05:48:50.643
FOR YOUR A DELICIOUS ACROSS YOUR
05:48:50.709 --> 05:48:52.444
AGENDA TODAY.
05:48:52.511 --> 05:48:53.646
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS IN
05:48:53.712 --> 05:48:55.180
REMEMBER COOLEY QUESTION SENATOR
05:48:55.247 --> 05:48:57.883
ALLEN MY MAIN QUESTION FOR YOU
05:48:57.950 --> 05:49:00.019
AND HAS LESS TO DO WITH THE
05:49:00.085 --> 05:49:02.221
MIXING OF PRODUCTS. TO THE IT
05:49:02.288 --> 05:49:04.056
THAT IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH THE
05:49:04.123 --> 05:49:04.990
ISSUE OF THE LICENSE.
05:49:05.057 --> 05:49:08.994
AND NO I'M I'M KIND OF TORN
05:49:09.061 --> 05:49:10.462
ABOUT IT AND I UNDERSTAND I
05:49:10.529 --> 05:49:12.164
THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR
05:49:12.231 --> 05:49:14.333
GOAL BUT THAT OF THE OTHER THING
05:49:14.400 --> 05:49:14.933
I'M THINKING ABOUT HOWEVER IS
05:49:15.000 --> 05:49:16.802
THAT.
05:49:16.869 --> 05:49:18.804
YOU KNOW THE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN
05:49:18.871 --> 05:49:20.906
IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING
05:49:20.973 --> 05:49:23.409
ALCOHOL FOR A LONG TIME ARE
05:49:23.475 --> 05:49:24.410
ACTUALLY PROBABLY THE BEST
05:49:24.476 --> 05:49:28.347
PREPARED. TO HANDLE FOLKS WHO
05:49:28.414 --> 05:49:30.883
MAY HAVE ABUSED CHALLENGES AND
05:49:30.949 --> 05:49:32.685
BY NOT BY BY PROHIBITING THEM
05:49:32.751 --> 05:49:34.219
FROM BEING IN THIS BUSINESS AND
05:49:34.286 --> 05:49:35.087
LEAVING.
05:49:35.154 --> 05:49:36.622
EXCLUSIVELY OPEN TO BRAND NEW
05:49:36.689 --> 05:49:38.324
ACTORS.
05:49:38.390 --> 05:49:40.626
AND WE KNOW SOME OF THEM WILDCAT
05:49:40.693 --> 05:49:41.927
FOLKS ARE JUMPING INTO THE
05:49:41.994 --> 05:49:43.762
CANNABIS INDUSTRY I'D I JUST I'M
05:49:43.829 --> 05:49:44.897
STRUGGLING WITHOUT PARTY YOUR
05:49:44.963 --> 05:49:47.333
BILL AND I I LOVE TO HEAR
05:49:47.399 --> 05:49:49.735
THOUGHTS ON IT AND BUT I THOUGHT
05:49:49.802 --> 05:49:57.176
MY CHALLENGE OF YOUR BILL.
05:49:57.242 --> 05:49:59.378
I GUESS I WOULD ADDRESS SET TO
05:49:59.445 --> 05:50:04.350
SAY THAT --
05:50:04.416 --> 05:50:06.218
THE BASIC FRAMEWORK OF THE
05:50:06.285 --> 05:50:08.287
CURRENT LAW DOES THIS BILL TAKES
05:50:08.354 --> 05:50:11.090
WE SET UP AN AGENCY TO REGULATE.
05:50:11.156 --> 05:50:12.958
WE HAVE SUPPORT AND AGENCIES FOR
05:50:13.025 --> 05:50:13.959
EXAMPLE PUBLIC HEALTH HAS
05:50:14.026 --> 05:50:15.527
SPECIAL EXPERTISE [inaudible]
05:50:15.594 --> 05:50:18.430
ARM.
05:50:18.497 --> 05:50:22.000
I WOULD SAY THE A GENERAL
05:50:22.067 --> 05:50:23.602
CONSENSUS EMERGED WITH THE
05:50:23.669 --> 05:50:25.871
IMPLEMENTATION BOTH OF THEM
05:50:25.938 --> 05:50:29.575
MEDICAL MARIJUANA BILL. TWENTY
05:50:29.641 --> 05:50:32.077
FIFTEEN THEN WITH THE CANNABIS.
05:50:32.144 --> 05:50:36.014
PROP [inaudible] SIXTY FOUR TO
05:50:36.081 --> 05:50:38.350
KEEP THE TWO SEPARATED.
05:50:38.417 --> 05:50:40.486
I THINK INITIALLY SENATOR ALLEN
05:50:40.552 --> 05:50:42.354
IT RELATES [inaudible]
05:50:42.421 --> 05:50:46.592
TO REGULATORY OVERSIGHT --
05:50:46.658 --> 05:50:48.327
AS IT IS THE AGENCIES CHARGED
05:50:48.394 --> 05:50:50.662
WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS.
05:50:50.729 --> 05:50:52.998
HAVE A VERY BROAD FIELD TO TRY
05:50:53.065 --> 05:50:54.299
TO RE WRITE THE RULES
05:50:54.366 --> 05:50:54.600
[inaudible]
05:50:54.666 --> 05:50:56.969
FOR SEOUL.
05:50:57.035 --> 05:50:58.971
I GUESS I FEEL THAT IN KEEPING
05:50:59.037 --> 05:51:01.840
THE TO CLASSES OF LICENSEES
05:51:01.907 --> 05:51:03.542
APART.
05:51:03.609 --> 05:51:04.676
THAT KEEPS THE JOB OF
05:51:04.743 --> 05:51:06.645
IMPLEMENTING PROP SIXTY FOUR FOR
05:51:06.712 --> 05:51:07.679
THE REGULATORY AGENCIES
05:51:07.746 --> 05:51:07.980
[inaudible]
05:51:08.046 --> 05:51:10.983
MANAGEABLE [inaudible]
05:51:11.049 --> 05:51:12.951
YEAH.
05:51:13.018 --> 05:51:14.787
I'M I HEAR YOU AYE AMOUNT
05:51:14.853 --> 05:51:16.321
CHOMPER CIGARETTES BUT I KNOW
05:51:16.388 --> 05:51:16.955
THAT YOU'RE IN IT'S NOT BECAUSE
05:51:17.022 --> 05:51:17.423
I DON'T.
05:51:17.489 --> 05:51:18.991
GENERALLY SHARE YOUR YOUR
05:51:19.057 --> 05:51:20.559
CONCERN ABOUT ABOUT ZERO IF I
05:51:20.626 --> 05:51:22.060
COULD ADD ONE THING IF YOU TO
05:51:22.127 --> 05:51:23.395
THIS IS WORTH IT THAT THE
05:51:23.462 --> 05:51:23.896
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU WILL
05:51:23.962 --> 05:51:24.196
[inaudible]
05:51:24.263 --> 05:51:25.864
TAKE.
05:51:25.931 --> 05:51:27.599
YOU ACCEPT TODAY BUT THEY WILL
05:51:27.666 --> 05:51:29.301
BE ADDED AN NGO.
05:51:29.368 --> 05:51:31.904
DOES ALLOW FOR SOMEONE TO HOLD A
05:51:31.970 --> 05:51:33.338
CANNABIS LICENSE AND AN ALCOHOL
05:51:33.405 --> 05:51:34.773
LICENSE.
05:51:34.840 --> 05:51:36.442
THEY JUST CAN'T SERVE THEM IN
05:51:36.508 --> 05:51:40.078
THE SAME PREMISES.
05:51:40.145 --> 05:51:42.047
THEY COULD BE SIDE BY SIDE.
05:51:42.114 --> 05:51:42.614
BUT THEY CAN'T BE WITHIN THE
05:51:42.681 --> 05:51:43.081
SAME [inaudible]
05:51:43.148 --> 05:51:47.052
FACILITY.
05:51:47.119 --> 05:51:48.520
SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION WE
05:51:48.587 --> 05:51:49.087
WILL NOT HAVE WOULD DECISION
05:51:49.154 --> 05:51:51.123
SUPPORT.
05:51:51.190 --> 05:51:51.924
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS BETSEY
05:51:51.990 --> 05:51:52.925
ARMSTRONG ON BEHALF OF THE
05:51:52.991 --> 05:51:54.059
COUNTY HEALTH EXECUTIVES
05:51:54.126 --> 05:51:55.194
ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING
05:51:55.260 --> 05:51:55.828
CALIFORNIA'S LOCAL HEALTH
05:51:55.894 --> 05:51:57.696
DEPARTMENT SEARCHERS.
05:51:57.763 --> 05:52:00.332
YOU VERY MUCH OTHERS IN SUPPORT.
05:52:00.399 --> 05:52:02.067
ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION.
05:52:02.134 --> 05:52:04.369
YOU KNOW.
05:52:04.436 --> 05:52:06.138
ONE VETERANS COMMISSARY LATER
05:52:06.205 --> 05:52:07.773
TOGETHER ALL AND I'M HAPPY TO
05:52:07.840 --> 05:52:09.107
MOVE THE BILL BUT TO SAY.
05:52:09.174 --> 05:52:10.409
I THINK THE FRUSTRATION FOR ME
05:52:10.476 --> 05:52:12.978
IS THAT THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO
05:52:13.045 --> 05:52:13.579
RESPECT THE WILL OF THE VOTERS
05:52:13.645 --> 05:52:14.880
HERE -- TWO
05:52:14.947 --> 05:52:16.882
WHY DID.
05:52:16.949 --> 05:52:18.283
IT'LL ON THE WHOLE CANNABIS
05:52:18.350 --> 05:52:19.685
ARRAY BUT THIS IS THE ONE PLACE
05:52:19.751 --> 05:52:21.753
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOME
05:52:21.820 --> 05:52:23.388
SORT OF PROTECTIONS.
05:52:23.455 --> 05:52:24.990
THAT WE CAN BUILD AND AND
05:52:25.057 --> 05:52:27.226
REGULATION THAT WE THINKER.
05:52:27.292 --> 05:52:29.561
HI SOBRE AND APPROPRIATE AND I
05:52:29.628 --> 05:52:31.363
AND I THINK I APPRECIATE WHAT
05:52:31.430 --> 05:52:31.997
THE AUTHOR IS DOING HERE ON THIS
05:52:32.064 --> 05:52:34.233
AND WELL I RECOGNIZE THAT THE
05:52:34.299 --> 05:52:35.968
SENATOR FROM SANTA MONICA'S --
05:52:36.034 --> 05:52:37.202
CONCERN [inaudible]
05:52:37.269 --> 05:52:39.037
HEY.
05:52:39.104 --> 05:52:40.339
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD
05:52:40.405 --> 05:52:41.974
ALL A LOWER THAT THAT THE PUBLIC
05:52:42.040 --> 05:52:43.175
SAFETY REQUIREMENTS WHEREVER IT
05:52:43.242 --> 05:52:44.943
IS SOLD.
05:52:45.010 --> 05:52:46.044
BUT THAT'S O. ITS UP TO US TO
05:52:46.111 --> 05:52:47.379
TRY TO CREATE THE STANDARDS AND
05:52:47.446 --> 05:52:48.614
I APPRECIATE WHILE THAT THE
05:52:48.680 --> 05:52:49.882
LICENSING.
05:52:49.948 --> 05:52:51.583
IN SOME WAYS PER PER PROVIDE
05:52:51.650 --> 05:52:53.719
SOME STEP AHEAD --
05:52:53.785 --> 05:52:55.854
IN AND I IN THE REGULATION AND
05:52:55.921 --> 05:52:57.923
IN THE TO THE DISTRIBUTION.
05:52:57.990 --> 05:52:59.391
BUT I I I THINK THAT THIS IS THE
05:52:59.458 --> 05:53:01.326
RIGHT CONSERVATIVE COURSE TO
05:53:01.393 --> 05:53:03.428
TAKE AND I HAVE SUPPORTED.
05:53:03.495 --> 05:53:04.296
HAPPY TO MOVE AT THE APPROPRIATE
05:53:04.363 --> 05:53:05.697
TIME REVIEW THANK YOU WOULD LIKE
05:53:05.764 --> 05:53:07.232
TO CLOSE ASSEMBLYMEMBER COOLEY
05:53:07.299 --> 05:53:08.867
IVKOV THANK YOU VERY VERY GOOD
05:53:08.934 --> 05:53:10.569
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN THAT WE
05:53:10.636 --> 05:53:11.637
DO HAVE A MOTION NOW AT THE
05:53:11.703 --> 05:53:14.006
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS MOTION BY.
05:53:14.072 --> 05:53:14.606
SENATOR GLAZER OF PLEASE CALL
05:53:14.673 --> 05:53:15.674
THE ROLL.
05:53:15.741 --> 05:53:17.209
QUESTION IS TF PASSED THE SENATE
05:53:17.276 --> 05:53:19.945
GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION HILL
05:53:20.012 --> 05:53:21.813
AYE HILL AYE FULLER.
05:53:21.880 --> 05:53:24.416
AYE ALLEN.
05:53:24.483 --> 05:53:27.052
DODD I DON AYE GALGIANI.
05:53:27.119 --> 05:53:28.820
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
05:53:28.887 --> 05:53:30.956
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
05:53:31.023 --> 05:53:33.225
AYE PAN AYE AYE AND I WILL I
05:53:33.292 --> 05:53:36.995
WILL DIE. EIGHT ZERO THE BILL IS
05:53:37.062 --> 05:53:38.096
OUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
05:53:38.163 --> 05:53:39.197
ASSEMBLYMEMBER COOLEY WE WILL
05:53:39.264 --> 05:53:40.732
NOW GO BACK.
05:53:40.799 --> 05:53:42.634
TO THE BEGINNING IF WE COULD TO
05:53:42.701 --> 05:53:45.070
COVER ALL OF OUR BILLS --
05:53:45.137 --> 05:53:46.505
FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS ITEM
05:53:46.572 --> 05:53:50.208
NUMBER ONE A BEEF TWELVE FORTY
05:53:50.275 --> 05:53:50.876
SEVEN BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER HIS AREA.
05:53:50.943 --> 05:53:53.145
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
05:53:53.211 --> 05:53:54.313
SHE HAS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
05:53:54.379 --> 05:53:55.180
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
05:53:55.247 --> 05:53:58.684
FULLER.
05:53:58.750 --> 05:54:01.320
BUT I REMEMBER ONE AB.
05:54:01.386 --> 05:54:01.920
TWELVE FORTY SEVEN THE ABSENT
05:54:01.987 --> 05:54:04.323
MEMBERS [inaudible]
05:54:04.389 --> 05:54:07.693
FULLER WELL.
05:54:07.759 --> 05:54:11.496
WE'LL GET THERE. SEVEN ZERO THE
05:54:11.563 --> 05:54:14.299
BILL IS OUT.
05:54:14.366 --> 05:54:17.369
I REMEMBER TO AB FOURTEEN THIRTY
05:54:17.436 --> 05:54:18.203
SIX BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER LEVINE
05:54:18.270 --> 05:54:19.438
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
05:54:19.504 --> 05:54:21.840
HAS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO SENATE
05:54:21.907 --> 05:54:23.542
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE FULLER.
05:54:23.609 --> 05:54:27.980
FULLER AYE WILK AYE WILK AYE.
05:54:28.046 --> 05:54:29.681
NINE ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT.
05:54:29.748 --> 05:54:31.984
ITEM NUMBER THREE AB SEVENTEEN
05:54:32.050 --> 05:54:32.884
FIFTY ONE ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOW
05:54:32.951 --> 05:54:34.119
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
05:54:34.186 --> 05:54:35.621
FLESH AS THE PAST PARK FIFTY
05:54:35.687 --> 05:54:37.356
COMMITTEE FROM AT SIX THREE ZERO
05:54:37.422 --> 05:54:39.157
FULLER.
05:54:39.224 --> 05:54:40.192
FULLER AYE PAN [inaudible]
05:54:40.258 --> 05:54:42.427
WELL [inaudible]
05:54:42.494 --> 05:54:46.665
I FORGOT. EIGHT ZERO THAT BILL
05:54:46.732 --> 05:54:51.103
IS OUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR AB
05:54:51.169 --> 05:54:51.670
SEVENTEEN FIFTY TWO ASSEMBLY
05:54:51.737 --> 05:54:52.204
MEMBER LOW PLEASE CALL THE
05:54:52.270 --> 05:54:53.472
ABSENT MEMBERS.
05:54:53.538 --> 05:54:54.806
BUSH HAS TO PASS THE SENATE
05:54:54.873 --> 05:54:57.109
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE CURRENT
05:54:57.175 --> 05:54:59.011
VOTE SEVEN ZERO FULLER.
05:54:59.077 --> 05:55:08.387
FULLER AYE WILK AYE AYE LOCI.
05:55:08.453 --> 05:55:10.589
NINE ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT.
05:55:10.656 --> 05:55:12.457
A BEEF SEVENTEEN FIFTY THREE
05:55:12.524 --> 05:55:14.526
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOW PLEASE CALL-THE ABSENT MEMBERS RUSSIA'S
05:55:14.593 --> 05:55:16.294
STATE HAS A SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY
05:55:16.361 --> 05:55:18.864
COMMITTEE.
05:55:18.930 --> 05:55:20.999
BUT SEVEN ZERO FULLER.
05:55:21.066 --> 05:55:22.401
WHERE I WILL [inaudible]
05:55:22.467 --> 05:55:25.437
LOOK I NINE ZERO THE BILL IS OUT
05:55:25.504 --> 05:55:26.505
THANK YOU.
05:55:26.571 --> 05:55:30.876
ITEM NUMBER. SEVEN AB NINETEEN
05:55:30.942 --> 05:55:31.810
OH SIX BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER IRWIN
05:55:31.877 --> 05:55:32.978
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
05:55:33.045 --> 05:55:34.312
LECTIONIS DE PASSED THE SENATE
05:55:34.379 --> 05:55:36.314
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE CURRENT VOTE
05:55:36.381 --> 05:55:37.816
SEVEN ZERO FULLER [inaudible]
05:55:37.883 --> 05:55:39.885
FULLER NO.
05:55:39.951 --> 05:55:43.622
WELL MY LOOK I EIGHT TWO ONE
05:55:43.689 --> 05:55:45.557
THAT BILL IS OUT.
05:55:45.624 --> 05:55:47.959
ITEM NUMBER.
05:55:48.026 --> 05:55:51.063
TWELVE AB --
05:55:51.129 --> 05:55:51.663
TWENTY ONE FORTY THREE PLEASE
05:55:51.730 --> 05:55:52.431
CALL THE AFTER MEMBERS MOTION
05:55:52.497 --> 05:55:53.732
HAS TO PASS THE SENATE HEALTH
05:55:53.799 --> 05:55:55.701
COMMITTEE KERN VOTES FOR THE
05:55:55.767 --> 05:55:57.903
ZERO FULLER AYE.
05:55:57.969 --> 05:55:59.571
FULLER AYE DODD.
05:55:59.638 --> 05:56:01.406
GOD I GALGIANI.
05:56:01.473 --> 05:56:03.775
GALGIANI AYE HERNANDEZ.
05:56:03.842 --> 05:56:06.044
I'VE BEEN IN THIS AYE WILK
05:56:06.111 --> 05:56:06.344
[inaudible]
05:56:06.411 --> 05:56:08.847
I THE BILL HAS NINE VOTES THAT
05:56:08.914 --> 05:56:10.649
IS OUT.
05:56:10.716 --> 05:56:11.950
I REMEMBER FOURTEEN ASSEMBLY --
05:56:12.017 --> 05:56:14.052
AB TWENTY TWO FIFTY FIVE
05:56:14.119 --> 05:56:14.653
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LACKEY PLEASE
05:56:14.720 --> 05:56:17.055
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
05:56:17.122 --> 05:56:18.690
IT MOTION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
05:56:18.757 --> 05:56:20.192
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE CURRENT
05:56:20.258 --> 05:56:23.261
VOTES THREE TO ZERO FULLER.
05:56:23.328 --> 05:56:25.330
FULLER I'VE GALGIANI GALGIANI
05:56:25.397 --> 05:56:26.898
AYE GLAZER.
05:56:26.965 --> 05:56:28.867
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
05:56:28.934 --> 05:56:31.036
I'VE PAN BY AND I WILL
05:56:31.103 --> 05:56:31.336
[inaudible]
05:56:31.403 --> 05:56:35.941
BY. NINE ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT.
05:56:36.007 --> 05:56:37.909
MOVING NOW TO ITEM NUMBER
05:56:37.976 --> 05:56:40.545
SEVENTEEN THEM SHORT NUMBER.
05:56:40.612 --> 05:56:43.081
SIXTEEN AB.
05:56:43.148 --> 05:56:43.749
TWENTY THREE HUNDRED PLEASE CALL
05:56:43.815 --> 05:56:44.483
THE AFTER MEMBERS MACHINIST YOU
05:56:44.549 --> 05:56:46.551
PASS THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
05:56:46.618 --> 05:56:48.086
COMMITTEE FULLER.
05:56:48.153 --> 05:56:50.222
FULLER AYE GALGIANI.
05:56:50.288 --> 05:56:52.791
GALGIANI AYE HERNANDEZ.
05:56:52.858 --> 05:56:53.692
AND AS I PAN [inaudible]
05:56:53.759 --> 05:57:00.031
WILK ALRIGHT WILL GUY. EIGHT
05:57:00.098 --> 05:57:01.767
ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT.
05:57:01.833 --> 05:57:05.270
ITEM NUMBER SEVENTEEN A. B.
05:57:05.337 --> 05:57:05.904
TWENTY THREE SEVENTY WON PLEASE
05:57:05.971 --> 05:57:07.172
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS NASH HAS
05:57:07.239 --> 05:57:08.507
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO SENATE
05:57:08.573 --> 05:57:09.307
NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE
05:57:09.374 --> 05:57:11.543
CURRENT VOTES [inaudible]
05:57:11.610 --> 05:57:13.111
SIX TWO ONE GALGIANI
05:57:13.178 --> 05:57:13.411
[inaudible]
05:57:13.478 --> 05:57:17.482
GALGIANI I AND WILK.
05:57:17.549 --> 05:57:19.417
AND ONE SEVEN ONE THAT BILL IS
05:57:19.484 --> 05:57:20.585
OUT.
05:57:20.652 --> 05:57:24.990
A ITEM NUMBER NINETEEN AB TWENTY
05:57:25.056 --> 05:57:25.624
FOUR ZERO TWO WILL NEED A MOTION
05:57:25.690 --> 05:57:27.025
ON THAT.
05:57:27.092 --> 05:57:28.393
SO MOVED BY SENATOR GLAZER
05:57:28.460 --> 05:57:29.661
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
05:57:29.728 --> 05:57:30.962
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
05:57:31.029 --> 05:57:34.065
QUESTION IS DO PASS AS AMENDED
05:57:34.132 --> 05:57:36.701
HEALTH ARE HILL AYE FULLER.
05:57:36.768 --> 05:57:39.104
FULLER NOW ALAN [inaudible]
05:57:39.171 --> 05:57:40.839
DODD [inaudible]
05:57:40.906 --> 05:57:41.940
DODD AYE [inaudible]
05:57:42.007 --> 05:57:43.809
GALGIANI.
05:57:43.875 --> 05:57:45.510
GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
05:57:45.577 --> 05:57:47.646
LASER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
05:57:47.712 --> 05:57:50.282
AYE PAN FIGHT AND I WILL WRITE A
05:57:50.348 --> 05:57:53.885
BOOK I IT OPENS.
05:57:53.952 --> 05:57:54.953
LEAVE THE ROLE OPENED UP FOR THE
05:57:55.020 --> 05:57:56.721
ABSENT MEMBERS OF MOVING ON TO
05:57:56.788 --> 05:58:00.892
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY AB.
05:58:00.959 --> 05:58:01.359
TWENTY FOUR FORTY FIVE
05:58:01.426 --> 05:58:01.993
ASSEMBLYMEMBER O'DONNELL USUALLY
05:58:02.060 --> 05:58:03.628
ABSENT MEMBERS.
05:58:03.695 --> 05:58:05.230
XIN AS DO PASSED THE SENATE THE
05:58:05.297 --> 05:58:07.065
SENATE FLOOR CURRENT VOTES EIGHT
05:58:07.132 --> 05:58:09.534
ZERO GALGIANI.
05:58:09.601 --> 05:58:11.703
GALGIANI AYE NINE ZERO THAT BILL
05:58:11.770 --> 05:58:12.704
IS OUT.
05:58:12.771 --> 05:58:15.240
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWELVE
05:58:15.307 --> 05:58:16.741
A TWENTY ONE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
05:58:16.808 --> 05:58:19.311
QUIRK AB.
05:58:19.377 --> 05:58:19.911
TWENTY FOUR FIFTY A IS THERE A
05:58:19.978 --> 05:58:22.547
MOTION.
05:58:22.614 --> 05:58:22.848
MOTION BY --
05:58:22.914 --> 05:58:23.815
SENATOR PAN --
05:58:23.882 --> 05:58:25.750
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
05:58:25.817 --> 05:58:27.352
MISSION IS TO PASS THE SENATE
05:58:27.419 --> 05:58:29.154
FLOOR HELD BY.
05:58:29.221 --> 05:58:30.455
HILL AYE FULLER.
05:58:30.522 --> 05:58:33.325
FULLER NO ALLEN [inaudible]
05:58:33.391 --> 05:58:36.228
DODD.
05:58:36.294 --> 05:58:37.829
I DON'T I GALGIANI.
05:58:37.896 --> 05:58:39.464
AYE GALGIANI AYE GLAZER.
05:58:39.531 --> 05:58:41.499
GLAZER AYE HERNANDEZ HERNANDEZ
05:58:41.566 --> 05:58:44.169
AYE PAN AYE PAN AYE WILK NO.
05:58:44.236 --> 05:58:47.906
WILK NOW.
05:58:47.973 --> 05:58:50.308
SHE REJECTED TO UPHOLD THE RULE
05:58:50.375 --> 05:58:51.243
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS.
05:58:51.309 --> 05:58:54.613
ARE NOW MOVING TO TWENTY TWO AB
05:58:54.679 --> 05:58:55.213
TWENTY FIVE FORTY SIX ASSEMBLY
05:58:55.280 --> 05:58:56.081
MEMBER CHAU.
05:58:56.147 --> 05:58:57.782
MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY SOME
05:58:57.849 --> 05:58:58.617
OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE
05:58:58.683 --> 05:59:01.786
TAKING PLACE MAYBE.
05:59:01.853 --> 05:59:02.420
TWO TWENTY FIVE FORTY SIX SINCE
05:59:02.487 --> 05:59:03.355
THE DISCUSSION CONCLUDED
05:59:03.421 --> 05:59:04.623
ASSEMBLY MEMBER CHAU HAS
05:59:04.689 --> 05:59:05.924
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AIMED AT
05:59:05.991 --> 05:59:08.627
ADDRESSING OPPOSITIONS CONCERNED.
05:59:08.693 --> 05:59:11.062
THE AMENDMENTS WOULD REMOVE.
05:59:11.129 --> 05:59:12.397
FOR OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN
05:59:12.464 --> 05:59:13.965
WHICH A PERSON OR ENTITY IS
05:59:14.032 --> 05:59:15.901
PROHIBITED FROM INITIATING OR
05:59:15.967 --> 05:59:17.202
ADVERTISING IN A COMMERCIAL
05:59:17.269 --> 05:59:19.004
EMAIL ADVERTISEMENT.
05:59:19.070 --> 05:59:20.872
THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO PRIVATE
05:59:20.939 --> 05:59:22.173
RIGHT OF ACTION INCLUDING.
05:59:22.240 --> 05:59:23.275
PLACING THE BURDEN OF PROOF ON
05:59:23.341 --> 05:59:25.410
THE DEFENDANT. TO DEMONSTRATE
05:59:25.477 --> 05:59:27.145
LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES PRACTICE
05:59:27.212 --> 05:59:28.079
IN USING MULTIPLE THE DOMAIN
05:59:28.146 --> 05:59:30.615
NAMES.
05:59:30.682 --> 05:59:32.651
THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.
05:59:32.717 --> 05:59:35.987
AND WE DO IT WOULD TAKE THOSE OF
05:59:36.054 --> 05:59:37.756
IT WILL.
05:59:37.822 --> 05:59:38.590
BUT IT WILL BE TAKEN ENTITIES
05:59:38.657 --> 05:59:39.624
COMMITTED COMMITTED TO THESE
05:59:39.691 --> 05:59:40.191
AMENDMENTS AND THEY WILL BE
05:59:40.258 --> 05:59:41.726
TAKEN.
05:59:41.793 --> 05:59:42.661
THEY WERE TAKEN IN JUDICIARY
05:59:42.727 --> 05:59:42.961
[inaudible]
05:59:43.028 --> 05:59:48.366
OR WITH THE OTHER THREE ARE NOT
05:59:48.433 --> 05:59:56.641
RELATED. TO FOR THAT.
05:59:56.708 --> 05:59:58.209
ONE OKAY ALL FOUR IS REMOVING
05:59:58.276 --> 06:00:00.612
ALL FOR THE OF THE BRIGHT RED OF
06:00:00.679 --> 06:00:01.913
ACTIONS THAT'S THE ONE RETURN
06:00:01.980 --> 06:00:02.514
FOR THAT.
06:00:02.580 --> 06:00:03.748
THAT'S REGARDING THE PROOF
06:00:03.815 --> 06:00:04.849
BURDEN OF PROOF ISSUE THAT WAS
06:00:04.916 --> 06:00:07.118
RAISED.
06:00:07.185 --> 06:00:08.553
HERE SO IT FOR A PRIVATE RIGHT
06:00:08.620 --> 06:00:09.721
OF ACTION BUT DOES THAT MEAN
06:00:09.788 --> 06:00:10.455
THAT.
06:00:10.522 --> 06:00:11.990
AS WE EXPAND THE AYE AYE THE
06:00:12.057 --> 06:00:13.491
ENFORCEMENT POWER TO THE
06:00:13.558 --> 06:00:14.592
DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN THE CITY
06:00:14.659 --> 06:00:16.161
ATTORNEY THEY WOULD STILL.
06:00:16.227 --> 06:00:17.262
BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION UNDER
06:00:17.329 --> 06:00:19.631
THIS -- HE
06:00:19.698 --> 06:00:21.132
JUST SAID WOULD EXCLUDE THE
06:00:21.199 --> 06:00:21.733
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION IDEA
06:00:21.800 --> 06:00:22.801
THAT.
06:00:22.867 --> 06:00:24.803
THE DIGITAL ACTIONABLE.
06:00:24.869 --> 06:00:26.004
AS FOR PROVISIONS WOULD BE
06:00:26.071 --> 06:00:27.839
COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM THE BILL.
06:00:27.906 --> 06:00:28.707
COMPLETELY REMOVED CAN
06:00:28.773 --> 06:00:30.175
IRRESPECTIVE OF THE PRIVATE
06:00:30.241 --> 06:00:31.409
RIGHT OF ACTION YEAH.
06:00:31.476 --> 06:00:32.811
FROM ANYONE FROM BRINGING SUIT
06:00:32.877 --> 06:00:34.279
WITH IT INCLUDING THE CITY
06:00:34.346 --> 06:00:35.814
ATTORNEY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY
06:00:35.880 --> 06:00:38.016
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S.
06:00:38.083 --> 06:00:38.917
SO THOSE TO THE DISTRICT
06:00:38.984 --> 06:00:40.485
ATTORNEY IN THE CITY ATTORNEY
06:00:40.552 --> 06:00:41.820
WOULD STILL BE IN THIS BILLS
06:00:41.886 --> 06:00:42.954
THAT WOULD REMOVE THAT FROM THIS
06:00:43.021 --> 06:00:44.389
YOU JUST REMOVE THOSE FOUR
06:00:44.456 --> 06:00:45.490
CIRCUMSTANCES FROM THE BILL
06:00:45.557 --> 06:00:47.325
ENTIRELY SO NO ONE CAN BRING
06:00:47.392 --> 06:00:49.661
SUIT NO WITNESS FOR OUR VALUES
06:00:49.728 --> 06:00:59.938
ARE HEALTH RATHER RIGHT AT WE
06:01:00.005 --> 06:01:03.575
THANK YOU. FOR JOURNALISM
06:01:03.641 --> 06:01:04.876
BECAUSE I'M IS CHANGE MY VOTE
06:01:04.943 --> 06:01:05.844
BUT I WON LEASE ON THE RECORD
06:01:05.910 --> 06:01:07.412
INDICATE I APPRECIATE THE WORK
06:01:07.479 --> 06:01:08.713
OF THE AUTHOR IN THE COMMITTEE.
06:01:08.780 --> 06:01:10.315
TO MAKE THIS BILL BETTER HOPE
06:01:10.382 --> 06:01:11.750
THAT THEY'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT
06:01:11.816 --> 06:01:13.151
TO WORK WITH THE OPPONENTS ON IT.
06:01:13.218 --> 06:01:14.119
SO IT'S A CONSTRUCTIVE BILL
06:01:14.185 --> 06:01:16.454
THAT'S REALLY NOT MEANT.
06:01:16.521 --> 06:01:17.455
TO IT'S REALLY MEANT TO CATCH
06:01:17.522 --> 06:01:19.257
THE BAD GUYS OUT THERE AND AND
06:01:19.324 --> 06:01:20.358
DOZEN RAP BAND ALL THE
06:01:20.425 --> 06:01:21.693
LEGITIMATE.
06:01:21.760 --> 06:01:23.061
BUSINESSES THAT ARE UNDERTAKING
06:01:23.128 --> 06:01:25.096
THIS TYPE OF COMMUNICATIONS THAT
06:01:25.163 --> 06:01:26.698
WE DON'T ALTHOUGH LIKE SPAM WE
06:01:26.765 --> 06:01:27.565
WANTED.
06:01:27.632 --> 06:01:29.034
PROTECT THE CONSUMER BUT WE JUST
06:01:29.100 --> 06:01:30.902
HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT
06:01:30.969 --> 06:01:31.436
IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY AND
06:01:31.503 --> 06:01:32.737
APPRECIATE THAT THE COURSE THE
06:01:32.804 --> 06:01:33.872
BILL IS TAKING AND FOR THAT
06:01:33.938 --> 06:01:35.673
REASON I'LL CHANGE MY VOTE GOOD
06:01:35.740 --> 06:01:37.008
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:01:37.075 --> 06:01:39.044
SENATOR GREATER WE WILL --
06:01:39.110 --> 06:01:41.079
CALL THE ROLL OF CALL THE ROLL
06:01:41.146 --> 06:01:43.548
OF ABSENT MEMBERS IN IN ANY
06:01:43.615 --> 06:01:44.149
CHANGES THAT COULD BE MADE IN
06:01:44.215 --> 06:01:44.582
THAT.
06:01:44.649 --> 06:01:46.785
ON AB TWENTY FIVE FORTY SIX
06:01:46.851 --> 06:01:47.752
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
06:01:47.819 --> 06:01:49.554
QUESTION IS DEEPAK.
06:01:49.621 --> 06:01:50.221
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
06:01:50.288 --> 06:01:51.956
CURRENT VOTES [inaudible] THREE
06:01:52.023 --> 06:01:53.825
THREE FULLER [inaudible]
06:01:53.892 --> 06:01:57.228
BULLARD NO.
06:01:57.295 --> 06:01:58.396
HERNANDEZ.
06:01:58.463 --> 06:01:59.964
CANNELLA AYE PAN AYE
06:02:00.031 --> 06:02:00.265
[inaudible]
06:02:00.331 --> 06:02:04.769
AND I GLAZER GLAZER FROM NODA.
06:02:04.836 --> 06:02:11.476
GLAZER FROM NOTE I SIX TO THREE
06:02:11.543 --> 06:02:13.411
LEAD BILL IS OUT.
06:02:13.478 --> 06:02:16.581
ITEM NUMBER TWENTY THREE AB.
06:02:16.648 --> 06:02:17.148
TWENTY SIX ZERO EIGHT PLEASE
06:02:17.215 --> 06:02:19.250
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
06:02:19.317 --> 06:02:20.085
QUESTION IF YOU PASS OF THE
06:02:20.151 --> 06:02:21.486
MINUTE SENATE HEALTH COMMITTEE
06:02:21.553 --> 06:02:25.457
FOR ABOUT SIX TWO ZERO FULLER
06:02:25.523 --> 06:02:25.757
[inaudible]
06:02:25.824 --> 06:02:31.029
AND WELL. SIX ZERO THAT BILL IS
06:02:31.096 --> 06:02:32.130
OUT.
06:02:32.197 --> 06:02:35.600
ITEM NUMBER.
06:02:35.667 --> 06:02:40.004
GOING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER.
06:02:40.071 --> 06:02:42.907
NINETEEN AB TWENTY FOUR ZERO TWO
06:02:42.974 --> 06:02:43.975
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOW.
06:02:44.042 --> 06:02:45.310
PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS
06:02:45.376 --> 06:02:45.610
[inaudible]
06:02:45.677 --> 06:02:46.811
ALLEN [inaudible]
06:02:46.878 --> 06:02:51.616
ALLEN I A TWO ONE THAT BILL IS
06:02:51.683 --> 06:02:53.051
OUT.
06:02:53.118 --> 06:02:56.654
A I REMEMBER TWENTY ONE AB.
06:02:56.721 --> 06:02:57.489
TWENTY FOUR FIFTY A PRESCHOOL
06:02:57.555 --> 06:02:59.257
YOU HAVE TO MEMBERS ALAN.
06:02:59.324 --> 06:03:02.026
ALLEN AYE.
06:03:02.093 --> 06:03:03.428
SEVENTY TWO THAT BILL IS OUT
06:03:03.495 --> 06:03:04.662
TECH INCLUDES A BUSINESS OF THE
06:03:04.729 --> 06:03:05.797
BUSINESS IMPRESSIONS COMMITTEE
06:03:05.864 --> 06:03:07.132
FOR TODAY THIS COMMITTEE HEARING
06:03:07.198 --> 06:03:23.381
IS ADJOURNED