RESOURCES ENERGY AND
TRANSPORTATION ORDER PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL WHAT'S ESTABLISHED
CORE.
YOU'RE ASKING HERE NIELSEN.
MCGUIRE HERE STIRRING.
OKAY AS ANY MEMBERS HAD WHO WANT
TO REMOVE ANYTHING FROM THE VOTE
ONLY CALENDAR.
SEEING NONE THE CHAIR WILL
ENTERTAIN A MOTION AS FOLLOWS.
UNDER STATE.
LANCE COMMISSIONS ITEMS ONE
INTO.
BOTH MATTERS WITH THE CALL SO
COMMISSIONS ITEMS FIVE AND SIX.
THE. A SAM CISCO OF BAY
CONSERVATION AND DEVELOPMENT
COMMISSION ITEM SEVEN. FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION'S ITEMS EIGHT TEN.
THIRTEEN TWENTY SIX AND THIRTY
THREE.
IS. AND FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
FORESTRY AND FIRE PROTECTION
ITEMS NUMBER FIFTY.
AND WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER
RESOURCES ITEMS.
FIFTY TWO AND FIFTY THREE.
SOME OF THERE'S A MOTION BY
SENATE MCGUIRE PLEASE CULTURAL.
LIKE ASKING BY.
NIELSEN.
MCGUIRE.
STERN.
OKAY. OUR NEXT MOTION WOULD BE
FOR STATE LANDS COMMISSIONS
ITEMS THREE AND FOUR.
.
THE PARTNER PARKS RECREATION'S
ITEMS NINE ELEVEN TWELVE.
THIRTEEN. FOURTEEN OR THIRTEEN
THROUGH TWENTY FIVE AS WELL AS
ITEMS TWENTY SEVEN THROUGH
THIRTY TO. AND ITEMS THIRTY FOUR
THROUGH THIRTY NINE
FOR THE NATURAL RESOURCES
AGENCY.
FULL OF ITEMS OF FOURTEEN FORTY
ONE FOR THAT ONE ITEM ITEM
NUMBER FORTY TWO FOR CALIFORNIA
CONSERVATION CORPS.
FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND
WILDLIFE ITEM NUMBER FORTY
THREE.
TIMES AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
FORESTRY THESE ITEMS FORTY FOUR
THROUGH FORTY NINE ITEMS FIFTY
ONE AND AND DEPARTMENT OF WATER
RESOURCES ITEMS.
FIFTY.
FOUR AND FIFTY FIVE AND IF I DID
SAY.
AND MISTAKENLY ITEM THIRTEEN.
AND.
IT'S NOT I AM THIRTEEN THAT WE
ALREADY DID THAT.
THE PREVIOUS MOTION.
ONLY PROMOTION REMOVING THIRTEEN
OKAY. AND APPROVING THE OTHERS
CRAFT.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
WIECKOWSKI BY.
THAT NIELSEN.
IT'S REQUIRED. STIRRING.
OKAY WAS CALLED THE STATE LANDS
COMMISSION WE HAVE TO ITEMS
FIFTY SIX AND FIFTY SEVEN ON.
.
COASTAL CLEANUP.
AND THE ISSUE MUCH
PLEASE PROCEED.
THERE.
MANY MEMBERS MY NAME IS JENNIFER
LOOK HAS THE I'M THE EXECUTIVE
OFFICER OF THE STATE LANDS
COMMISSION.
I'LL BE PRESENTING ON ITEM FIFTY
SIX AND ITEM FIFTY SEVEN.
ALL START WITH ITEM FIFTY SIX
OF THAT THE PLEASURE OF THE
CHAIR PLEASE COMMISSION REQUEST
TWO MILLION DOLLARS.
A TWO MILLION DOLLAR TRANSFER
FROM THE TIGHTLY IN OIL AND GAS
REVENUES INTO THE COMMISSION'S
LAND BANG FUND. TO IMPLEMENT THE
COASTAL HAZARD AND LEGACY OIL
AND GAS WELL REMOVAL AND
REMEDIATION PROGRAM AUTHORIZED
BY CHAPTER SIX FORTY FIVE
STATUTES OF TWO THOUSAND
SEVENTEEN. OR KNOWN AS SP FORTY
FOUR BY SENATOR JACKSON'S.
WE ALSO REQUEST THAT AN AMOUNT
SUFFICIENT TO BRING THE
UNENCUMBERED BALANCE OF THE
LANDING FUND TO TWO MILLION
DOLLARS IS TRANSFERRED IN FISCAL
YEARS TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN
TWENTY THREE TWO THOUSAND TWENTY
SEVEN TWENTY EIGHT.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THAT IT INCLUDES A FUNDS
FOR TO LOOK FOR NEW HAZARDS
CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE TASTE
OF WATER THAT WHAT'S THE COST
TO.
CLEAN UP THE EXISTING HAZARDS
IT'S KNOWN AND THEN THE OTHER
IDENTIFYING A NEW COASTAL
HAZARDS.
RIGHT SAID THAT THE BILL
ADDRESSES.
TWO TYPES OF THAT STATUTE AND
THE FUNDING REQUEST ADDRESSES
TWO TYPES OF.
OF HAZARDS IF YOU WELL THAT
LEGACY WELLS WHICH ARE GENERALLY
DEFINED AS THOSE WELLS THAT WERE
AND DERAILED AND ABANDON BEFORE
THERE WERE ANY KIND OF STANDARDS
OF ON HOW AND. AN ENTITY WAS TO
ABANDON PROPERLY ABANDONED.
THOSE WELLS THERE AREN'T ANY.
KNOWN RESPONSIBLE PARTIES THESE
ARE ALL WELL THAT WERE DRILLED
IN THE EARLY NINETEEN HUNDREDS.
AND SO THE COST OF TRYING TO
HAVE A RIGHT UP PLUGGING IN
ABANDONING THEM REMEDIATING
THOSE LEGACY WELLS CAN BE
ANYWHERE BETWEEN ONE AND TWO
MILLION DOLLARS WHEN YOU BUILD
IN SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL.
AND PREPARATION WORK.
FOR EXAMPLE WE RECENTLY PLUGGED
IN ABANDONED THE BACKER WELL AS
SUMMERLIN BEACH.
AND FINISH THAT PROJECT I'M
JUST ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND THAT
WAS APPROXIMATELY ONE POINT FOUR
MILLION DOLLARS TO COMPLETE THAT
LEGACY WELL WHICH WAS IN THE
SHORTER ZONE AREA. THE OTHER
CATEGORY IS COASTAL HAZARDS IN
THESE ARE REMANENCE THAT BECOME.
THAT KNOWN.
THROUGH.
DIFFERENT COASTAL CONDITIONS
EROSION AND THERE RAILROAD.
.
REMANENCE M. H. BEAMS PILES.
USUALLY IN THE SHORES DOWN
WITHIN SANTA BARBARA COUNTY
INVENTOR I COUNTY AND THOSE ARE.
A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE TO REMAIN
TO REMOVE THE REMEDIATE
APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH.
AND THAT'S JUST IN.
IS THIS THE ENTIRE COAST THERE
WERE DOING NURSES AND FOR IBM.
I KNOW I VOTED FOR S. B. FORTY
FOUR BUT I'M NOT
SURE THAT WE DO SEE WE JUST
DOING THAT ONE SENATE THIS
TRICKERY LOOKING NO NO I DIRE
STATE.
SO THE ENTIRE COAST ALTHOUGH
THAT
MAJORITY OF THE LEGACY
WELLS ARE WITH.
I AM.
POLIO PLAYERS WITH ELLIOTT WE
DIDN'T EXPRESS.
OKAY LET'S OPEN UP THE PUBLIC
HEARING OF THEIR MEMBERS HERE
FROM THE PUBLIC ON ITEM NUMBER
FIFTY SIXTY COASTAL HAZARD
REMOVAL PROGRAM.
ALRIGHT LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC.
A HEARING I HAVE NO OTHER
FURTHER QUESTIONS. IF THERE'S A
MOTION TIED TO KUBRICK STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS PROVE HIS. HAS
BUDGET AT THE MOMENT. RIGHT
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL WHITE HOUSE
KING HIGH. NIELSEN REQUIRED
NIGHT.
STERN.
I WILL KEEP THAT MATTER OPEN.
THEN MOVE ONTO A.
PLUGGING ABANDONED WELLS ITEM
FIFTY SEVEN.
THE STATE LANDS COMMISSION IS
REQUESTING A TOTAL OF ONE
HUNDRED AND EIGHT MILLION
DOLLARS TO PERMANENTLY SECURE OR
PLUG IN ABANDON THIRTY TWO WELLS
ON PLATFORM HOLLY AND AND TWO
SHORES OWN PEERS. OFF SHORE THE
CITY OF THE LEAD AND SANTA
BARBARA COUNTY. AND FORTY NINE
WELLS LOCATED ON RINCON ISLAND
AT MUSCLE SHOALS SHOALS OFFSHORE
BEEN TURRET COUNTY.
SPECIFICALLY WE ARE REQUESTING
FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS IN TWO
THOUSAND EIGHTEEN NINETEEN FORTY
MILLION DOLLARS IN NINETEEN
TWENTY. AND TEN POINT FIVE
MILLION DOLLARS IN TWO THOUSAND
TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
THESE LEASES FOR OFFSHORE
FACILITY AND EXCUSE ME THE
LESSEES FOR THESE OFFSHORE
FACILITIES MANIC HOW LLC AND
RINCON ISLAND LIMITED
PARTNERSHIP.
FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY IN APRIL
TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN AND
AUGUST TO THOUSAND SIXTEEN
RESPECTIVELY. NOTWITHSTANDING
SAID NOTWITHSTANDING THE
COMMISSION'S ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT
TO PROTECT THE STATE'S INTEREST
IN BOTH BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDINGS
THE BANKRUPTCY COURTS REJECTED
BY NICO AND RINCON ISLANDS.
LEASE OBLIGATIONS TO PLUG IN A
BAND IN THE OIL AND GAS WELL.
IN THE ABSENCE OF THESE LESSEES
TO ASSUME THIS RESPONSIBILITY.
AND IN ORDER TO PROTECT PUBLIC
HEALTH AND SAFETY AD THAT
COASTAL MARINE ENVIRONMENT THE
COMMISSION MUST UNDERTAKE THIS
PLUGIN AND ABANDONMENT AND
ULTIMATE DE COMMISSIONING OF
THESE FACILITIES.
WE ANTICIPATE THE STATE SHARE
ULTIMATELY WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY
REDUCED AXON AS THE PRIOR LESSEE
OF THE PLATFORM HOLLY IN THE
SHORES OWN PEERS. AND HAVE HAD
HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PLUG
IN ABANDONED.
AND DECOMMISSIONING THESE
FACILITIES WE ARE CURRENTLY
NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT WITH
AXON TO CONDUCT AND PAY FOR THE
PLUGIN AND ABANDONMENT WORK.
FOR THE THIRTY TWO WELLS.
AND FINALLY WHILE THERE WERE
UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED
BOTH BENNETT CHO IN OUR LP TO
FILE BANKRUPTCY THE COMMISSION
RECOGNIZES THE NEED FOR MORE
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH IN
ADDRESSING THE POTENTIAL
LIABILITY.
THE SCENE THE STATE WITH THAT
THREE REMAINING STATE PLATFORMS.
THE COMMISSION IS ALREADY
AGGRESSIVELY APPLYING THE
LESSONS LEARNED TO THESE
OFFSHORE LEASES ASSOCIATED WITH
PLATFORMS EVA AND ME AND ESTHER
OFFSHORE SEAL BEACH AND
HUNTINGTON BEACH IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA.
AND LASTLY WE DO.
APPRECIATE.
THE RECOMMENDATION FOR.
.
CONTINUOUS
REPORTING ON OUR EFFORTS.
TO PLUG IN ABANDONED AND THE
COMMISSION THESE FACILITIES THIS
IS A HUGE AND DAVID EVER FOR THE
STATE AND FOR THE COMMISSION TO
PURSUE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO A
CONTINUOUSLY REPORT TO THE
LEGISLATURE AS I'M RECOMMENDED
AN AS NEEDED IN THE FUTURE.
AND GOOD LUCK CA NEGOTIATING
THOSE.
AS
TEN YOU'D LIABILITIES AS
PRIORITY CLAIMS IN BANKRUPTCY
NORMALLY WE THINK OF AS TAXES SO
THAT'S
GOOD TO BE. CLEVER HARD WORK I'M
I WAS WONDERING ON. WHEN WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT A PLATFORM HOLLY
AND THEN THE.
YOU STABILIZE IT YOU MAKE
FACILITY SAFE AND THEN THEN YOU
START FULLY REMOVING THE
PLATFORM AND AND. IT TALKS
ABOUT.
REMOVING THE ISLAND.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING.
IT I'VE BEEN UP TO RING CON I
GOT A BROTHER WHO LIVES DOWN
THERE SO.
IF IF IT WERE STE
ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE WANT WHAT'S
WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GET RID OF
THE THE STRUCTURE.
WHERE WE THAT WE'RE NOT AT THAT
STAGE AT THIS POINT OUR PRIMARY
FOCUS IS ON BOTH FOR THE
PLATFORM AND AND THE OTHER? OFF
SHORE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED TO
PLATFORM HOLLY AND THEN RINCON
ISLAND AND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE
WERE FOCUSED OUR FIRST PRIORITY
IS TO GO OUT AND PLUG IN A BAND
IN THE WILDS.
THAT.
ULTIMATE.
DISPOSITION OF THE OFFSHORE
FACILITIES A PLATFORM THE ISLAND
THE CAUSEWAY THAT WILL ALL BE
ANALYZED AND ADDRESSED.
IN AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT.
AFTER WE GET START GET STARTED
ON THE PLANE AND ABANDONMENT
WORK SO THEY'LL BE AND.
A VERY.
COMPREHENSIVE AN IN DEPTH
PUBLIC PROCESS.
BOTH IN TERMS OF SEQUEL AND
THEN ALSO JUST THROUGH THE
COMMISSION'S OWN OUTREACH TO
DETERMINE THE ULTIMATE
DISPOSITION OF THOSE OFFSHORE
FACILITIES SO AND TO REALLY.
ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION NO
DECISION HAS BEEN MADE WHETHER
TO LEAVE THE ISLAND IN PLACE OR
TO REMOVE IT THERE IS A LOT MORE
ANALYSIS ENVIRONMENTALLY.
FINANCIALLY AND AND AND.
POLICY WISE WHETHER TO ADD TAKE
THAT STEP.
OKAY I'M ELLIOTT. YEAH HAVE SO
WE RECOMMEND ADOPTING THIS
PROPOSAL IT IS DOES REPRESENT.
SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL AND PUBLIC
HEALTH THREAT AND WERE IT NOT
ADDRESSED.
BUT AS MENTIONED BY THE
DIRECTOR AND NOTED IN YOUR
AGENDA WE DO RECOMMEND ADOPTING
SOME SUPPLEMENTAL REPORTING
LANGUAGE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE
AT THE MINIMUM ON THREE THINGS
FIRST THE STATUS OF THE
NEGOTIATIONS TO TRY AND GET
ADDITIONAL FUNDING. FROM THE
PRIOR LESSEES SECOND HOW THE
WORK IS GOING ON THAT BY
PROJECTS STATUS AND TIMELINE AND
SIR THE STATUS OF THE LEASE
NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE OTHER OF
EXISTING LESSEES TO ENSURE THE
STATE LIABILITY IS LIMITED. ROOM
ALSO THAT THE IDEA IS THAT AS
THESE THEY'RE STILL OPERATING
OTHER WELLS BUT THEIR THEIR GUN
AT ME I THINK TO SORT OF THE
PRACTICE IS ALWAYS BEEN MORE
WHICH IS WILL CAP THAT WE NEED
TO CAPITA JUST.
A SORT OF SITS THERE AND I THINK
THE BEST PRACTICE WOULD BE.
AS I UNDERSTAND THE REPORT IS
THAT CAP DOES AS YOU GOING SO WE
DON'T HAVE THESE LEGACY. PUMP UP
OPPORTUNITIES NO LEGACY.
OKAY.
.
LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
BECAUSE THEY'RE PEOPLE HERE.
WELL IN CLASS.
PLAYERS.
MICHAEL CLOSED PUBLIC PUBLIC
HEARIN. OTHERS QUESTIONS
MEMBERS.
THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER FIFTY
SIX PUBLICLY.
BUT THE LA OF HER CONDITION.
OKAY THEN.
SUPPLY OWN BOARDING THEM WHICH
IS FINE ALRIGHT.
IT'S CALL THE ROLL MY CASKET BY
NIELSEN. REQUIRE.
STERN.
WILL I KEEP THAT MATTER OPEN
FOR.
THE ABSENT MEMBERS LET'S MOVE ON
TO A. NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE
COMMISSION IN THE STATE LANDS
COMMISSION.
THIS IS FILE ITEM NUMBER FIFTY
EIGHT THIS IS A. PROBLEM APRIL
FINANCE LETTER.
FOR SOME.
IT'S TEN POSITIONS WITH THE.
.
THE NATIVE AMERICAN. HERITAGE
COMMISSION.
ALRIGHT. GOOD MORNING.
FIRST OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME
IS CHRISTINA SPIDER ON THE NEWLY
APPOINTED EXECUTIVE SECRETARY AT
THE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE
COMMISSION AND I'M MEMBER OF THE
DRY QUICKLY ENTRY OF AND PUMMEL
INDIANS.
I'M TERRY ROBINSON OUR GENERAL
COUNSEL HERE WITH ME AS WELL IN
CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M
UNABLE TO ANSWER.
I REQUEST ON PAGE TWENTY NINE
ISSUE FIFTY EIGHT.
WE'RE REQUESTING SIXTEEN AND
FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND FROM THE
GENERAL FUND AND TEN POSITIONS
FOR TWENTY EIGHTEEN NINETEEN AND
ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY
SIX THOUSAND FROM THE GENERAL
FUND AND TWENTY NINETEEN TWENTY
AND ON GOING. TO IMPLEMENT LA TO
IMPLEMENT LAWS RELATED TO OUR
WORK.
THEY IT COMMISSION WAS
ORIGINALLY CREATED BY STATUTE
UNDER THE GOVERNOR DURING HIS
FIRST TERM IN OFFICE.
IT'S A NINE MEMBER BODY
APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR WITH
THE MISSION TO PROTECT CULTURAL
RESOURCES INCLUDING GRAVE SITES
AND SECRETLY.
SECRET PLACES OF CALIFORNIA
TRIBES.
INITIALLY THERE IS LITTLE OR NO
LEGISLATIVE FRAMEWORK FOR THE
WORK OF THE COMMISSION BUT OVER
TIME THE LEGISLATURE PASSED A
NUMBER OF LOS TO MORE
EFFECTIVELY PROTECT. THESE
IMPORTANT TRIBAL CULTURE
RESOURCES.
THE COMMISSION IS TASKED WITH
INTERPRETING IMPLEMENTING AND
ENFORCING THESE LAWS WHICH ON
TOP OF OUR DAY TO DAY DUTIES.
AND THE FREQUENT EMERGENCIES THE
TENDER CROP UP IN THIS WORK ROOF
REQUIRES A MORE ROBUST LEGAL
TEAM AND WERE ABLE TO CURRENTLY
EMPLOYED.
IF APPROVED WE INTEND TO USE
RESOURCES TO MEET OUR CURRENT
WORKLOAD DEMANDS AND TO FILL
INCREASING STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS
WHICH INCLUDE ENFORCEMENT
COMPLIANCE MEDIATION AND OPTION
OF REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE
GUIDANCE AND CLARITY TO TRIBES.
THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES
REGARDING THE LOSS EVER SEEM.
OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS
WILL BE DEVELOPING REGULATIONS
THAT ALLOW US TO COLLECT FEES ON
SECRET PLANS FILE SEARCHES
REQUESTED BY AGENCIES AND
DEVELOPERS PERSON TO STATE LAW
AND THEY SHOULD BE IN PLACE BY
DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR. WE
ANTICIPATE THAT OVER TIME THE
CITY'S OFFSET THE COST
IDENTIFIED IN OUR QUEST.
THANK YOU ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THIS
TIME. IN ON THE FUN THE
MAINTENANCE IS AS WE'VE. AYE AS
SOON AS WE.
AND ALL OF THE WORD THIS
DISCOVER UNCOVER OTHER.
RESOURCES THAT THOSE WHO GET
PUT INTO THE INVENTORY THAT'S
THAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT WHEN
PEOPLE.
I MEAN THERE'S IT'S A TO THINK
WE ONE EXPERT.
TO HELP AVENUES WERE EXPOSING OR
NOT.
CATALOGING ALL THE SITES IN IN
AS WE ADD NEW SITES ABSOLUTELY
OKAY I'M AND IT'S ACCORDING TO
SEPARATE PORT IT'S LIKE A
HUNDRED FIFTY BUCKS PER SEARCH.
IS THAT.
THAT IS WHAT.
THAT'S AN ESTIMATE THAT WE CAME.
CAME TO BID ON STAFF TIME AND
AND THE TIME INVOLVED IN AND
ALSO THE COST AND WE THINK
EGGMAN. ONCE WE GET INTO THE
EIGHTEEN TWENTY BUDGET.
GIPSON MONEY NOW AND AND IT'S
GONNA BE SELF FUNDING.
OKAY SO OFTEN IS THAT THOSE
SORRY DON'T KNOW. THOSE FUNDS
WILL GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL
FUND AND SO WILL BASICALLY OFF
THE ANY OF THESE COSTS BRING.
BELIAU THANK YOU GOOD MORNING
CENTER IS I'M ACTUALLY ENDS WITH
THE ANALYST'S OFFICE.
I WE HAVEN'T RAISING CONCERNS
WITH THIS PROPOSAL I AM
ADMITTING GOING FORWARD JUST IN
A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE THE
P. REVENUE WILL BE GOING INTO
THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN
COMING BACK UP THROUGH THIS
PROPOSAL OVERTIME KNOWS WHEN TO
MAKE SURE THOSE TWO THINGS A
LINE AND THEN SECONDLY JUST
ENSURING THE TIMELINESS WITH THE
RULE MAKING PROCESS THAT WE DO
GET THAT FEE AND.
I'M SURE SOMEBODY WILL CAPTURE
PART LET'S OPEN UP THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
.
AND. NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE
COMMISSION AND THE.
ALRIGHT LET'S CLOSE PUBLIC
HEARING QUESTIONS ON THIS
MATTER.
SENATE MCGUIRE THIRTY SIX COMES
YOU TO THINK IT'S TOO MUCH TO
SORT OUT. CONGRATULATING ME
DIRECTOR HIGH AS SHE IS AT FROM
THE NORTH COAST AYE IN FANTASTIC
MOVE BY THE GOVERNOR. AND THEN
THE OTHER PIECE I WOULD SAY IS
pTHAT PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU TAKE
A LOOK AT I'M.
HOW RICH TO HER DECISION AND
AMERICANS IN THE NORTH COAST
MORE TRAGEDY UNLESS THE CITY
CALIFORNIA?
BUT SUCH AN IMPORTANT MISSION
RIGHT AYE AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT
ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE MOVING
FORWARD TO DISMISS A THINK YOU
FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND MAKING
CRAFTS BECAME.
OKAY WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION
THIS IS A. STAFF RECOMMENDATION
IS A PROPOSED BUDGET. THERE'S A
MOTION BY CENTER NIELSEN PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL WIECKOWSKI AYE
NIELSEN.
MCGUIRE.
BUT.
STERN.
OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH LET'S
BRING UP PARKS RECREATION SINCE
FIX OUR PARKS.
NOW.
THIS IS.
THREE HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR FULL
TIME POSITIONS SIXTY ONE POINT
FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN IF YOU
DON'T MIND I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN
OPENING STATEMENT PLEASE THAN WE
HAVE TIME FUNDING IN FRONT OF
YOU.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY.
ALONG WITH THE OTHER MEMBERS TO
TALK
ABOUT THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT'S
UNDERWAY YOU MAY RECALL THAT
THERE WAS A PARKS FOR IT
COMMISSION WAS A BLUE RIBBON
COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED TO
TAKE A HOLISTIC VIEW. MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO
IMPROVE AND STRENGTHEN
CALIFORNIA STATE PARK SYSTEM
ALONG WITH THE ORGANIZATION. ON
DIDN'T INITIATION IN TURN
CREATED WHAT'S WE'VE WHAT WE'VE
DONE WITH A TRANSFORMATION TEAM
WHICH IS A COLLECTION OF PARK
EXPERTS TO REALLY DESIGN SOME
ACTIONABLE ITEMS AND REALLY LEAN
AND.
TO THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND WITH YOUR HELP WE'VE
ACCOMPLISHED A LOT I'D LIKE TO
HIGHLIGHT SOME OF OUR MOST
NOTABLE ONES NUMBERMODERNIZING
HOW WE ARE ORGANIZED ON FORM BY
ABOUT A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
PROCESS. WE'VE DESIGNED AN
ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE
ELIMINATING REDUNDANT
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES WHILE
ALSO ENHANCING KEY VISITOR
EXPERIENCES. OUR PLANET'S
MEMORIALIZED IN OCTOBER TWO
THOUSAND SEVENTEEN REPORT.
WE ALSO ARE LAUNCHING A NEW
RECRUITMENT CAMPAIGN ON YOU'LL
START SEEING SOME BILLBOARDS
AROUND THE STATE REALLY I'M
ANNOUNCING THAT. WE REALLY ARE
KIND OF LOOKING TO HIRE AND WE
WANT MORE PEOPLE TO IMAGINE A
CAREER OUT THE GREAT OUTDOORS.
WE'VE ALSO DIVERSIFIED ARE
LEADERSHIP TEAM A REQUIREMENT
THAT OUR TOP LEADERS IN THE
FIELD BE LIMITED TO ONE
PROFESSIONAL GROUP. HAS BEEN
ELIMINATED.
PARK PROBLEMS ARE BEST SOLVED BY
A TEAM FROM A DIVERSE
PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND.
AND OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM IS NOW
ABLE TO REFLECT THAT SAME
PROFESSIONAL DIVERSITY.
WE'VE ALSO MODERNIZE HOW WE
COLLECT.
OUR READINESS AND FEES ON THE
FIELD THROUGH TECHNOLOGY. DEBIT
AND CREDIT CARDS ARE NOW
ACCEPTED AT MORE AND MORE OF
YOUR STATE PARKS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA WE'VE ALSO
MODERNIZE HOW WE'RE TAKING
RESERVATIONS COLLECTING DATA. ON
AND REVENUE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN
MAKE MORE.
DATA INFORMED DECISIONS AS WE
MANAGE ON THE INVENTORY OF TO
EASE SOME OF THE PARK SYSTEM.
AND WE'RE ALSO HARNESSING THE
POWER OF PHILANTHROPIC.
FINLAND DIAL PHILANTHROPIC
EFFORTS ANNOUNCED A PARTNERSHIP.
WE'VE CREATED MORE DIRECT LINES
OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OUR
PARTNERS THE FIELDS AND OUR
LEADERSHIP TEAM. AND ENHANCING
PARTNERSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE
SYSTEM
DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY ALSO HOSTED.
SUMMIT OF OVER A HUNDRED OF OUR
PARTNERS OVER THE LAST YEAR. ON
TO REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT AN
IMPORTANT ROLE THEY PLAYING AND
HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AS WE
TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANT ROLE OF
PARKS AND THE IMPORTANT ROLE
THAT THEY PLAN PARKS IN THE
FUTURE.
AND WE'VE ALSO IMPROVE PRIORITY
SETTING AND INCREASED
ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT'S PARTLY
WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING. WITH YOU
ABOUT TODAY ON OUR FIRST ITEM.
AND PASSED FUNDS WERE
DISTRIBUTED TO OUR TWENTY ONE
MANAGEMENT TEAMS.
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
AND IT WAS SPENT THE DISCRETION
OF THE FIELD MANAGEMENT.
NOW THROUGH THE USE OF A NEW
BUDGET TOOL PARTY BASED
BUDGETING IS NOW THE NEW NORM.
AND WHILE STILL ALLOWING PARK
STAFF TO DETERMINE HOW TO BEST
ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS IN THE
FIELDS ON THIS NEW BUDGETING
TOOL I'M WE'VE CALLED IT SERVICE
BASED BUDGETING. AND IT'S PROVEN
TO BE A POWERFUL TOOL AND HAS
ALLOWED US.
TO MAKE BETTER DATA FORM
DECISIONS IN A WAY THAT WE'VE
FRANKLY NEVER HOUSE BEEN THE
FOR.
AND WHAT'S PROVEN O BE A
POWERFUL TOOL ARMY ALSO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT WAS ONLY
MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH
PHILANTHROPIC SUPPORT. ON AND
COUNTLESS TIRELESS HOURS IN
SHEER HARD WORK OF DEDICATED
PARK STAFF THAT MADE IT
POSSIBLE.
AHMED LIKE TO CLOSE BY THINKING
OF THE LEGISLATURE AND THANK ALL
OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AND
PARTNERS.
ON THE TYPES OF SYSTEMIC
SWEEPING CHANGES THAT WE'VE BEEN
ABLE TO MAKE ARE NOT THE KINDS
OF CHANGES THAT YOU CAN JUST
MAKE FROM WITHIN. AND IT WAS
ONLY BECAUSE OF THE FOCUS.
AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT
WE'VE HAD WITH ALL OF THE VERY
STAKEHOLDERS THAT WAS MADE
POSSIBLE SO WE JUST WANNA THANK
YOU FOR THAT.
BUSY ALEJO HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT
LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES NOT.
ALRIGHT LET'S OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC
HEARING OR THE FOLKS HERE ON.
PAT.
MISTER NELSON CENTER NIELSEN
PLACE I'M THE MOVE TO MAKE IT ON
OBSERVATION OKAY.
I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR
MANY MANY MANY MANY YEARS.
LOVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED PARKS.
THE PART BONDS.
BUT I BELIEVE AND VOTED AGAINST
SP ONE AND PART.
BECAUSE THESE MONIES I DO NOT
BELIEVE.
I HAVE. A PROPER NEXUS.
TWO WHAT IS PROMISED TO THE
CITIZENS OF CALIFORNIA.
THE TRICK ROADS AND HIGHWAYS BE
SOLELY. ENHANCED.
AND THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE
TRUST
NOTHING AGAINST THE PARKS.
BUT I WOULD SUPPORT MONEY FROM
OTHER SOURCES THAN THIS THAT
WILL BE WHY A BOOK AND.
IS SIR S. B. ONE MONEY HERE'S
BELIAU.
AYE YOU REFER AND ISSUE A FIFTY
NINE AS YOU HAVE BEEN NINE.
YES.
BECAUSE THERE IS ON. SOME OF THE
THE MONEY THAT'S A TRIBUTE TO
HIGHWAY VEHICLE USAGE.
AND THAT'S GOING TO THE
DEPARTMENT PARKS.
PICKING IS SET.
IT WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE SIXTY
ONE POINT FIVE.
HOW MUCH OF THAT IS OFF MISTER
CHAIR IF I MIGHT KIND OF COMMENT
ON THAT?
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT S. B.
ONE DEAD IT'S AN INCREASE THE
FUEL TAX REVENUE. HISTORICALLY
ON THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION HAS BEEN RECEIVING
FEEL TAX REVENUE.
WHAT SP ONE DEAD IS IT ALSO
EXPANDED THE USE OF THE FUEL TAX
REVENUE IN THE PAST TO USE THE
FEEL TAX REVENUE WAS LIMITED TO
BOTH OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLE
RECREATION AND ALSO BOATING AND
WATERWAYS? RECREATION.
SO NOW THE FUEL TAX REVENUE IS
DEPOSITED INTO THE STATE PARKS
AND RECREATION FUND AND SO THIS
COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE THAT'S
BEFORE YOU. IS AN EXPENDITURE
PLAN FOR THE ADDITIONAL STATE
PARKS AND RECREATION FUND.
OKAY.
BUT LET'S ABOUT THE PUBLIC
HEARING COULD DO THAT.
PEOPLE OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
HERE AND ISSUE NUMBER FIFTY
NINE.
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
HI GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS MY NAME IS HOLLY
MARTINEZ AND I AM THE DIRECTOR
OF PROGRAMS AND ADVOCACY FOR THE
CALIFORNIA STATE PARKS
FOUNDATION AND HERE TO PROVIDE
COMMENT ON BEHALF OF THE
DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.
AS THE ONLY STATEWIDE.
NONPROFIT FOR STATE PARKS.
WE ADVOCATE FOR THE EXPANSION
IN AND ACCESS FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS TOURISTY PARKS.
WITH REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER FIX
FIFTY NINE I WE'D DEFINITELY IS
AB SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT'S
PROPOSED BUDGET SPECIFICALLY THE
INCREASE OF THREE HUNDRED SIXTY
FOUR FULL TIME POSITIONS. AND
RECOGNIZES VERY POSITIVE STEP TO
ADDRESSING THE NEEDS
TO DELIVER CRITICAL SERVICES
ESPECIALLY THE INTERPRETATION
EDUCATION STAFF THAT SERVE AS A
PROMINENT FACE INTERACTING WITH
THE PUBLIC.
WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE
OF APPROPRIATING FOUR BILLION OF
S. B. FIVE FINES FOR THE STATE
PARKS AND SYSTEM ENHANCEMENTS SO
THAT THE PROJECTS FOR
IDENTIFICATION. AND PLANNING
ACTIVITIES CAN COMMENCE TO
STRATEGIC CENTER TREATS TO
STRATEGICALLY. ALLOCATE FUTURE
S. B. FIVE FINDS AS WE ARE TO
SUBCOMMITTEE SUPPORTER OF THE
DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET FIGURE.
GOOD MORNING MR MEMBERS.
THROW THEM THE ON BEHALF OF.
LET ME KNOW WHAT DOORS IN A
SUIT. BY TWO MEMBERS OF THE
PARKS NOW COALITION AND THE
COALITION WAS HERE YESTERDAY
HAVING THEIR CAPITAL THEY
UNFORTUNATELY MOST FOLKS.
HEAD TO HEAD BACK DOWN TO
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THE BAY AREA
IN CENTRAL ALLEY WHERE THEY'RE
FROM.
BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO
EMPHASIZE.
AND AND BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
THE DEPARTMENTS LEADERSHIP ON
THESE ISSUES.
REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THE
PARKS FOR COMMISSION
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ARE ABLE NOW
TO COME TO FRUITION.
ARMED WITH THESE PROPOSED
INVESTMENTS FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE. THE
THE INCREASED NUMBER OF STAFF
AND THE HIRING OF STAFF TO
REALLY ACHIEVE.
THE FULL POTENTIAL OF WHAT OUR
PARK SYSTEM CAN CAN REALLY MEAN
FOR CALIFORNIA AND ALL OF ITS
RESIDENTS.
AS FAR AS HAVING PLACE TO ACCESS
AND AND ENSURING THAT PEOPLE ARE
ABLE TO ACCESS THE THE PARK
UNITS THEMSELVES.
AND AND MAKING A MORE.
MORE OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE TO
EVERYBODY REGARDLESS OF INCOME
AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT COMMUNITY
THAT THEY MIGHT LIVE IN.
IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT BUT I
STEPPED FORWARD AND REALLY BEEN
REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
DIRECTORS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ERA
AS WELL. AND SUPPORT.
AND WOOD ASPERGER'S YOUR
SUPPORT AS WELL THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THE CLOTHES THAT I
DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION I
HALF MILLION FOR RIGHT SIZE.
PARKS AND REC EXPLAIN HOW THAT
WORKS ARE WHAT'S THE PROCESS YOU
GUYS.
SO.
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND
WE HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS BODY
WE'VE HAD A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT
IN OUR BUDGET. ANTS OVER THE
LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND WE'VE
COME TO THE LEGISLATURE AND WE
PASSED FOR ONE TIME
APPROPRIATIONS.
CLOSE THAT GAP JUST TO MAINTAIN
THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICES
THIS WOULD PUT IN PLACE THAT
PERMANENT SOLUTION TO BREAK THAT
CYCLE OF US COMING BACK TO YOU
TO ADDRESS A STRUCTURAL
SHORTFALL.
THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT.
THANK YOU RIGHT.
SEND REQUIRE.
THE SWITCH. YOU WANNA. TAKE A
MOMENT TO.
I THINK OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS
HAS STATED THE DIRECTOR HAS
ALWAYS COME TO THE COMMITTEE.
NAM ELDEST FOR THE LAST COUPLE
IN AND HAD. WONDERFUL
CONVERSATIONS WITH HER BEEN AT
TIMES A BIT CRUNCHY.
IN REGARDS TO ALL SHE'S A STATE
PARKS IN THE FUNDING.
AND AND IT I THINK IT'S.
IT NEEDS TO BE THE MOST POPULAR
DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE.
AND.
IT HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED AT
TIMES.
AS I KNOW OTHERS HAVE BEEN IN
REGARDS TWO IT SEEMS THAT THE
PROCESS WOULD NEVER IN IT I DO
WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO.
ACKNOWLEDGE THE DIRECTOR
I WOULD SHE IS ALWAYS SAID IS
THAT WE NEED TO BE A TO
RESTRUCTURE A PARAPHRASING HERE
BY THE WAY. THAT WE NEED TO BE
ABLE TO RESTRUCTURE DEBATER
REBUILD THE PUBLIC'S TRUST.
INTO.
ALSO REBUILD THE TRUST OF THE
LEGISLATURE IN CANADA THEY THE
ADMINISTRATION SO THAT WHEN I
ENHANCE FUNDING. DOES COME DOWN
FOLKS KNOW THAT IT'S BEING SPENT
WELL.
I DON'T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE
DIRECTOR IN YOUR TEAM FROM FAT
GOING WHERE THEY WERE AT.
WHICH CANDIDATE WAS GOING FROM
CRISIS TO CRISIS
I TO BE ABLE IN A PARTICULAR
AFTER THE FINANCIAL CRISIS THAT
WE SAW A IN REGARDS TO MISSPENT
FUNDS. INTO THE WAY THIS IS NOW
BEEN TURNED AROUND.
I IN I THINK ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT PARTS OF THIS IS GOING
TO ARE THE PRIORITY BASIS
SERVICE BASED BUDGETING. SO THAT
TAXPAYERS CAN KNOW HOW EACH PARK
PAYS INVEST IN THOSE DOLLARS IN
THE IN HOW EACH DISTRICT OR
INVEST IN US DOLLARS THROUGHOUT
EACH OF THE PARKS.
I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE SE AT
CONGRADULATIONS ON THAT AND
THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT MOVE
ON THE IN.
DON'T THINK YOU GET IN ENOUGH
THINKS
FOR GOING THROUGH A TIMES THAT
COULD BE A BIT OF A.
THERE'S THAT WORD FROM THE SHOW.
IN AND AS A EVEN YOUR STAFF HAS
TO HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF
AYE BRINGING THIS FORWARD. AND
AND I THINK THE OTHER PEACEFUL
ONE.
I ALSO TALK ABOUT IS IN IN
REGARDS TO THE
SHE DO OF SP ONE OF THE VAST
MAJORITY. WE TAKE A LOOK AT
THOSE FUNDS ARE BEING USED FOR
INFRASTRUCTURE POSITIONS AT HER
HOUSE SO THAT FOCUS ON
INFRASTRUCTURE PER THE SP ONE
MAIN DATE. TERRITORY MAKE SURE
THAT WE WE CLARIFY THAT AS WELL
JUST DO A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEPER
DIVE.
ARE FOR POSITIONS.
TO BE OF THE MAINTAIN
INFRASTRUCTURE AS PART OF. THIS
REQUEST HERE TODAY.
AND WILL SAY WE'RE STILL OVER A
BILLION DOLLARS IN DEFERRED
MAINTENANCE FOR THAT OUR STATE
PARKS.
WHICH THAT I DECADES OF UNDER
INVESTMENT AND THIS IS MONEY
WELL SPENT FOR THE MOTORING
PUBLIC AS WELL AYE IN IT IS PART
OF THE MANDATE IS PART SPUR I SP
ONE BEGIN. THEIR DIRECTOR FOR
OTHER CARTOONISTS AT TIMES AND I
HAVE.
PROVIDED JUST WANNA TAKE TODAY
TO BE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL
YOUR WORK IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME
COMING.
IN IT'S BEEN A REALLY HEAVY
LEFT THE US WHEN IT KNOWLEDGE
BASE MCGURK WHO'S HERE AS WELL
HAVE FOR ALL OF HER WORK AS WELL
SO JUST THINK YOU.
SENATOR STERN.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR.
GOING TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUE HERE
IN THANK OU I'VE NOT BEEN A
PART OF WERE PRIVY TO ALL THE
CRUNCH THAT HAS BEEN REFERRED TO
ALTHOUGH. I DO REMEMBER DURING
THE DEVELOPMENT OF.
THOSE MANY YEARS.
DEVELOPING THE PARKS FORWARD
PLAN AND ALL THE STAKEHOLDER
ENGAGEMENT AND ALL TE SEARCHING
THAT WE DID I THINK YOU'VE
TURNED A CORNER HERE TODAY SO I
WANT TO. COMMEND YOU ALL FOR
THAT.
BUT I DID WANT TO ASK.
NO PART OF THAT VISION WAS ALSO
HAD IT TAKE ADVANTAGE MORE OF
THE. VISITORS SHIP AND.
USER GENERATED FEES BUT ALSO
CONCESSIONS
COM AND SORT OF WHERE YOU SEE
THAT PLAYING OUT IN THE LONG
TERM I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR
INSIGHT MAYBE FROM ELIO AS WELL
JUST.
HOW THE CONCESSION AND SUB
CONCESSIONS THAT WERE
ADMINISTERING RIGHT NOW ARE ABLE
TO SORT OF?
GERD OR SETTLEMENT SIR WHAT
SHARE OF THIS ONGOING REVENUE DO
YOU SEE COMING MAYBE FROM OFF
FROM NOT ON OUR BOOKS ARE NOT
FROM S. B. WONDER FROM A PARKS
FINE BUT.
BUT FROM PRIDE FEES.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HARNESSING
THE POWER OF PARTNERSHIPS AND
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER
GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES WERE
TALKING ABOUT VOLUNTEERS FOR
TALK ABOUT NON PROFITS.
COOPERATING ASSOCIATIONS BUT
ALSO CONCESSIONAIRES R.
CONCESSIONAIRES A BEEN A VERY
IMPORTANT PARTNER THEY WILL
CONTINUE TO BE. ON GOING
FORWARD.
ONE EXAMPLE OF AN INNOVATIVE
PARTNERSHIP IS THAT WE'RE
CONTEMPLATING IS THAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT A WAY TO PLACE AYE
CABINS
OUT IN ANGEL ISLAND AND RATHER
THAN US JUST TAKING ON THAT
BURDEN ON OUR OWN IS REALLY
TAKEN A LEAN IN AND DO THIS IN A
MORE INNOVATIVE MANNER. AND DO
THROUGH A COMPETITIVE RFP
PROCESS OF FIGURE OUT WHETHER
THERE ARE CONCESSIONAIRES THAT
MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN BUILDING
THOSE CABINS AND THEN OPERATING
THOSE CABINS.
SO I THINK IT'S REALLY KIND OF
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS
AND WE ALSO THINK ABOUT
CONCESSIONAIRES.
IT'S REALLY WE'RE TRYING TO BE
VERY SELECTIVE AND WE ALSO MAKE
SURE THAT THESE PARTNERSHIPS ARE
CONSISTENT WITH PARKA.
AND THAT REVENUE GENERATION IS
ABSOLUTELY AN IMPORTANT
COMPONENT OF MAKING THE STATE
PARK SYSTEM. UNSUSTAINABLE FOR
THE FUTURE BUT FIRST AND
FOREMOST WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING
ALL THESE PARTNERSHIPS ARE
CONSISTENT WITH THE MISSION. THE
OBLIGATION THAT WE HAVE TO THE
PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA THAT WE
NEED TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE
THESE NATURAL HISTORIC AND
CULTURAL RESOURCES CONTINUE O
PROVIDE FOR THEIR RAINY OF.
RECREATION BUT WE JUST HAVE TO
DO IT REALLY THOUGHTFULLY.
SO CONCESSIONAIRES WILL CONTINUE
TO BE KEY YEAH I I AGREE AND I
YOU KNOW WE'RE SEEING THAT IN
THE HEART OF MY DISTRICT ON
HISTORIC MALIBU PIER WHICH I
KNOW PARKS BY THE WAY YOUR DEAR
DIRECTOR DOWN THERE CRAIG SAPPED
AS. TREMENDOUS WORK IN THE
COMMUNITY AND IS A REAL ASSET.
.
BUT THAT SAME KIND OF CONCEPT
LOOKING AT.
OLD MOTELS ALONG PCH AS SOME
OTHER WAYS TO DO SORT OF COASTAL
COMEDIES I THINK THERE'S SOME
REALLY INTERESTING OPPORTUNITIES
THERE BUT I DO AGREE THAT THAT
SORT OF PUBLIC MISSION. WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE GETTING THE
BEST DEAL POSSIBLE OUT OF THIS
AND THAT BY YOU. YOUR THE
STEWARD FOR THE REST OF
CALIFORNIA SO. PLEASE KEEP US
INFORMED OF THAT AND ALSO JUST
IF THERE'S IF ELLIOT ANY INSIDE
JUST AS FAR AS.
HOW WE DO LONGER TERM BUDGETING
ANTICIPATING SORT OF THE GROWTH
POTENTIALLY IN THESE KIND OF
PARTNERSHIPS TO I MEAN FROM BY
THE DEPARTMENT OR OR ALEJO? DC.
DO YOU HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT A
SHARE HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT
SORT OF.
HERE ON GOING SPENCE'S HERE'S
WHAT WE COULD SEE THIS MEETING
IN TERMS OF DEMAND IN THE FUTURE
OR IS THAT REALLY NOT HOW
YOU'RE.
YOU'RE GOING ABOUT WE ABSOLUTELY
WE ABSOLUTELY DO HOW THOSE TYPES
OF CONVERSATIONS ON BUT ALSO WE
DON'T ACT ALONE WE HAVE SOME
VERY IMPORTANT PARTNERS AS WE
PROCEED IN THESE THINGS WE SHARE
YOUR VISION ON HAVING.
MORE OPTIONS LOWER COST
ACCOMMODATIONS ALONG THE
COASTLINE BUT AS YOU KNOW THE
CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION IS
ALSO AN IMPORTANT STAKEHOLDER
AND SO WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF
CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. ON THE
TYPES OF THINGS THAT THEY MAY
ALSO.
HAVE KIND OF A SHARED VISION.
ONE OF THE THE CHALLENGES THAT
I WOULD YOU KNOW CANDIDLY SHARE
WITH YOU WITH OUR
CONCESSIONAIRES IS WHEN I TALK
ABOUT HOW WE'RE TRYING TO
AMPLIFY. A KIND OF THE POWER OF
PARTNERSHIPS THEM IN THE PAST
WE'VE REALLY BEEN A BIT
HAPHAZARD ABOUT OUR PARTNERSHIPS
THAT WE WE TOOK ALL OF OUR
PEOPLE THAT OUR PARTNERSHIP
SPURTS AND PUT THEM TOGETHER AS
A TEAM. AND HEADQUARTERS IT DOES
A COUPLE OF THINGS CULTURALLY AN
ORGANIZATION MAKES A STRONG
STATEMENT THAT PARTNERS ARE HERE
TO STAY. AND THAT ITNEEDS TO BE
AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT AND HOW
WE. HOW WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO
THE VISITORS OF CALIFORNIA AND
TO THE FUTURE?
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GETTING
THE BEST DEAL I AGREE WE HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY GET THE BEST DEAL
FOR THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA.
COM ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN
DOING IS TAKING A LOOK AT OUR
ARRANGEMENTS AND MAKING SURE WE
WANNA TRY TO TACKLE AND MAKE
SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO
MANY MONTH TO MONTH.
ARRANGEMENTS IN THAT'S
ABSOLUTELY WHAT HAPPENED WITH
THE WHAT'S YOU KNOW KIND OF BEEN
GOING ON BECAUSE THIS TAKES YOU
OUGHT TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT
THESE THINGS SO. WERE
SYSTEMATICALLY GOING THROUGH AND
TRYING TO IDENTIFY IN AT THOSE
MONTH TO MONTH ARRANGEMENTS THAT
WE'VE HAD FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND GO OUT TO COMPETITIVE BID
WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF THE
RIGHT THING TO DO WHEN HAPPENS
TO BE THE LOS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ISSUE
JUST LOOKED AT SOME OF THEIR
THER CONTRACTS SOME OF SOME OF
THIS SORT OF TEMPORAL
ARRANGEMENT SO THEY CAN TALK
AOUT AND WAYS TO SQUEEZE MORE
OUT THERE.
WE HAVE A HELL IT'S AS CLOSE AS
THE PARTNERSHIP'S ISSUE BUT WE
DID OF REPORT ACTUALLY A FEW
YEARS AGO TWO YEARS AGO NOW
LOOKING AT THE FEE ISSUE.
AND FEE REVENUE AND IN THAT
REPORT UTIMATELY RECOMMENDED
COMING UP WITH A MORE
CONSISTENT.
AND TRANSPARENCY WHITE
FRAMEWORK FOR HOW WE DETERMINE
FEES AND TO FROM HER EX.
IN THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE
PROVIDED THERE WAS. ASKING THE
LEGISLATURE TO REALLY THINK
ABOUT WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THAT.
STATE PARKS ARE MORE OF A PUBLIC
GOOD.
SUCH
SHOULD ONLY BE VERY LOW COST AND
FREE BUT ALSO I CAN
WITHOUT-AGAINST. THE SERVICE
LEVELS THAT
YOU WANT AND IN THE RESOURCES
YOU HAVE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER.
PRIORITIES RIGHT.
AND SO WE DID GET INTO THE AYE
WITH A REPORT WOULD BE HAPPY TO.
SHARE THAT WITH YOU LATER.
SO ON THAT POINT ON THE FEE
COLLECTION YOU MENTIONED THAT
WE'VE GOT.
DIVERT CARDS AND CREDIT CARDS IN
MANY FOR.
CIVIL THESE IS SOMEONE WE GET A
GET TO ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OR IS
THAT THE GOAL TO GET TO HAVE
EVERY. EVERY STATE PARK YOU HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY YOU SURE CREDIT
CARD AND THEN THE COST SAVINGS
IS THAT THE AND I YOU KNOW I
HAVE TO GO TO THE BANK AND I
WILL THAT CASH. IS THERE.
TELL IT'S US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THAT. WILL NEVER OUR GOAL IS NOT
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT BECAUSE IT
DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO
DO IT AT ALL ONE HUNDRED PERCENT
OF OUR PARKS AND FRANKLY IN SOME
OF OUR PARKS ARE SO REMOTE.
THAT THE CONNECTED WE'VE GOT SO
MANY CONNECTIVITY ISSUES THAT
THERE'S THERE'S PRACTICAL
REASONS THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT
THE WE'VE BEEN REALLY STRATEGIC
ABOUT WHERE WE.
PUT THE DEBIT AND CREDIT CARDS
IN PLACE AND ALSO WE'VE BEEN
ROLLING OUT ON THE RESERVATION
SYSTEM BUT THE OTHER THING IS.
YOU KNOW FOR US IT'S EXCITING
AND NEW TO BE ABLE TO TAKE DEBIT
AND CREDIT CARDS BUT SOME WERE
QUITE BEHIND.
OF THE REST OF THE WORLD'S AND
SUSAN REAP WE'VE REALLY BEEN
TRYING TO LEAN INTO ALSO IS THE
USE OF SMART PHONE TECHNOLOGY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE ALONG THE
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BEACHES.
IT ALLOWS US TO DO FLEX PRICING
IT ALLOWS US TO ALSO ON GIVE
VISITORS THE FLEXIBILITY THAT IF
THEY PAY FOR SO MANY HOURS AND
THEY GO OUT TO THE BEACH.
THEY GET A PUSH NOTIFICATION
THAT IT'S ABOUT TO EXPIRE AND
THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD
MORE TIME SO WHILE THESE THINGS
WERE FULLER WELL BEHIND THE
STARBUCKS OF THE WORLD. YOU KNOW
AND IN THE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY
EXPECTATIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE
WHEN THEY GO AND ENGAGE WITH
PLACES. ON BUT WHEN YOU TALK
ABOUT SAVINGS FRANKLY.
IT WAS TERRIBLE HOW MUCH TIME
WE WERE SPENDING CHASING
BOUNCING BOUNCED CHECKS.
BECAUSE IN THE PAST WE WERE A
CASH ONLY STATE PARK SYSTEM WE
HEARD THAT UNIVERSALLY ACROSS
THE BOARD THAT PEOPLE WANTED
OPTIONS. AND.
AND THEN THERE WERE ALSO PEOPLE
THAT WERE YOU KNOW GOOD AND THEY
WANT TO BE ABLE TO PAY BUT THEY
DIDN'T HAVE THEIR CHECKBOOK OR
DIDN'T HAVE CASH AND.
I ACTUALLY WOULD RECEIVE
LETTERS WITH CASH.
WITH I THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT
WHAT A WONDERFUL TIME A FAMILY
HAD AT A PARTICULAR PARK.
AND AN APOLOGY THAT THEY DIDN'T
HAVE CASH IN THE INSERTED CASH
SO.
SO THAT'S REALLY KIND OF BEEN
OUR FOCUS.
OKAY STAFFER CONDITIONS TO PROVE
HIS BUT HAS BUDGETED.
IF THERE'S A MOTION.
I'M.
CENTER CERTAIN MOVES PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL.
CASKEY BY.
NIELSEN.
REQUIRE.
STERN.
OKAY THAT MATTERS APPROVED THREE
ONE LET'S MOVE THE ISSUE NUMBER
SIXTY THIS IS THE REGIONAL
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
THE ISSUE SIXTY REGIONAL
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ON PAGE
THIRTY FOUR OF YOUR AGENDA.
THESE ARE TWO PROJECTS ON FOR
WHICH SEVEN POINT FIVE MILLION
IN GENERAL FUND IS BEING
PROPOSED FOR THESE TWO PROJECTS.
THE FIRST IS IN ANAHEIM IT'S A
YMCA ACTIVE LIVING CENTER I
THINK YOUR AGENDA DOES A GOOD
JOB.
SUMMARIZING ITS FOUR ACRES AT
SIXTEEN THOUSAND OR SEVENTEEN
THOUSAND I'M SQUARE FEET.
NUMBER EXPECTING IT TO BENEFIT A
WIDE VARIETY OF VISITORS ABOUT
THREE THOUSAND VISITORS I'M ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT. I WOULD KNOW
IS THAT THE TOTAL COST OF THE
BILL DOWN IS EXPECTED TO BE.
IT'S EXPECTED TO BE TEN MILLION
DOLLARS
AND THIS WOULD FIND ABOUT A
FIFTY PERCENT OF THROUGHOUT. THE
SECOND PROJECT INCLUDED IN THIS
ITEM IS THE FOX FULLERTON
THEATRE. THIS IS ON THE NATIONAL
REGISTRY OF HISTORIC PLACES THIS
IS AN ORANGE COUNTY. ON THE
TOTAL BUILT OUT OF THIS
COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT IS
FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS
CONSTRUCTION IS ALREADY UNDER
WAY. AND THIS CONTRIBUTION FOR
THE STATE WOULD BE TWO POINT
FIVE MILLION DOLLARS ROUGHLY
TWENTY PERCENT OF THE TOTAL COST
OF THE PROJECT.
BELIAU. GEAR.
.
WE JUST KNOW THOSE WELL THERE
ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS THE STATE
WHICH ONLY FUND LOCAL ASSISTANCE
PROJECT THROUGH.
FREQUENTLY GRANT PROGRAMS
USUALLY A THE HAVE A COMPETITIVE
APPLICATION PROCESS IT'S UNCLEAR
TO US WHY THESE TWO PROJECTS
WORK BY A STATEWIDE PRIORITY FOR
GENERAL FUND. UMBER WHAT
STATEWIDE BENEFIT WOULD BE
ACHIEVED FROM THEM. WE ALSO KNOW
THAT IF PROPOSES PROPOSITION
SIXTY EIGHT SHOULD PASSED ON IT
MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR
PROJECTS
FACILITIES OR AT LEAST TO THE
LOCALITIES TO FREE UP.
A MAYBE SOME OF THEIR PARKS AND
RECREATION BUDGETS TO BE ABLE
PURSUE THESE PROJECTS.
AND SO.
WE ACTUALLY RECOMMEND REJECTION
OF PROPOSITION SIXTY EIGHT DOES
PASS
IF HE DOESN'T HOSPITALS HAVE TO
DECIDE OF THEIR HEIGHT OF
GENERAL FUND PRIORITY. OF VERSES
EVERYTHING ELSE.
FINANCE BERMAN FINANCE A STEVEN
BENSON.
SO JUST YOU KNOW IT REALLY DOES
COMMENT I THINK IS ON POINT THAT
IT'S NOT A CAN STAND A PRACTICE
TEST RELIEF FUND THESE TYPES OF
THINGS IN GENERAL FUND IT'S ALSO
NOT. UNPRECEDENTED THE SEVENTEEN
EIGHTEEN BUDGET FOR EXAMPLE HAS
A HANDFUL OF. REGIONAL
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT
WERE FUNDED FROM GENERAL FUND.
SAN FRANCISCO AREA AND.
OF REGION YOLO COUNTY INS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S
AGAINST NOT CENTER PRACTICE BUT
THERE ARE CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT.
HE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
LEGISLATURE TIMES HAVE DECIDED.
OUR YOU KNOW OUR OUR FREDDIE TO
MOVE AND IMPORTANT ENOUGH AND
HAVE SAID HER STARKLY
SIGNIFICANCE ENOUGH AND THINGS
LIKE THAT THAT THEY DECIDED TO
USE GENERAL FUND ADMINISTRATION
IN THIS INSTANCE. DETERMINE
THESE TWO PROJECTS AND HAVE
SIMILAR MERIT AND SO THAT'S THAT
THE NATURE OF THE PROPOSALS
HERE.
RIGHT LET'S OPEN UP THE PUBLIC
HEARING OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC HERE.
ENTHUSIASTS AT THE YMCA IN
ANAHEIM OR A FOX THEATRE
PRESERVATIONISTS.
ARE SEEING NONE WILL CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING CENTER NIELSEN.
ONE OF THE TWO PROJECTS BUT WERE
OTHER PROJECTS
SO CONSIDERED.
IN THIS BUDGET OR JUST EVEN IN
THE LAST BUDGET.
IS THIS OF IT MAYBE IT'S.
PRESIDENTE.
BUT IT CERTAINLY IS NOT HABIT IT
CERTAINLY IS CONTRARY TO
STANDARD POLICY SO.
I HAVE OTHER PROJECTS COMPETED.
FOR THESE DOLLARS OTHER THAN
JUST TO.
SENATE NIELSEN PERHAPS I CAN.
WE HAVE A GRANTS PROGRAM THAT
WE THAT WE USE BUT IT'S NOT
UNCOMMON FOR A GENERAL FUND SPA
FUNDED PROJECT OF THESE TYPES TO
BE PLACED IN THE DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET.
IT'S CALLED DOWN AND HIGHLIGHTED
IN THE MANNER THAT IT'S CALLED
THEM HIGHLIGHTED.
BECAUSE THE STATE DEPARTMENT'S.
IS NOT GOING TO SPEND ANY MONEY
ON THESE PROJECTS UNLESS.
IT'S ACCEPTABLE AND APPROVED BY
BY THE LEGISLATURE.
ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT KIND
OF COMES TO MIND AND AND I CAN
REMEMBER WHAT YEAR IT WAS BUT WE
ACTUALLY HAD PUT SOME GENERAL
FUND DOLLARS AND FOR. ON A POOL
DOWN.
.
THE CALEXICO BUT THE CALEXICO
PULL SO.
IT DOES WE DO THIS AS A
MECHANISM TO PUSH GENERAL FUND
DOLLARS OUT IN REGIONAL
PROJECTS.
IF THE LEGISLATURE IS AN
AGREEMENT THAT THE SOUNDS OF
BENEFIT TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY
COM THESE TWO PROJECTS I THINK.
.
A FOR US I THINK WERE
HIGHLIGHTED BY THE FACT THAT
THERE'S A TREMENDOUS TIME
COMMITMENT BY THE LOCAL
COMMUNITY. AND THAT THEY'VE
TAKEN SOME OWNERSHIP IN THE US
TO PAY IN ONE CASE FIFTY PERCENT
OF THE COST OF THE PROJECTS AND
EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE COST OF
THE OTHER PROJECT.
COULD YOU JUST THAT FORWARD TO
THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MAY
BE SUCH PROJECTS AND SAY THE
LAST THREE YEARS HOW MANY HAVE
THAT BE AND. THAT'S ALL.
SURE HAPPY TO DO SO THANK YOU.
FORGET THE OTHER QUESTIONS ARE
MOTION.
THERE'S SOME MOTION BY SO FAST
SENATOR STERN PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. WIECKOWSKI FIVE NIELSEN.
MCGUIRE.
STERN.
I MEAN.
LET'S TALK ABOUT REVENUE
GENERATION.
THIS YOU SIXTY ONE ON OUR
REVENUE GENERATION ON PROGRAM
WAS ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED.
ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO NOW
STATUTORILY.
AND WE DETERMINE THAT IT'S BEEN
A SUCCESS ANNOUNCE WE'VE LOOKED
AT WAYS TO.
STRUCTURE US IN A SUSTAINABLE
WAY FOR THE CALIFORNIA STATE
PARK SYSTEM WE'VE ALSO BEEN
LOOKING AT THIS ON PROGRAM TO
IDENTIFY WAYS TO IMPROVE IT.
I WILL SAY THAT LAST YEAR.
SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN WE INVEST
ABOUT THREE POINT FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS IN IT YELDED EIGHTEEN
MILLION DOLLARS
THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TODAY.
MAKES.
WOULD MAKE THE PROGRAM
PERMANENT ALSO CEMENT SOMEPLACE
THE RESOURCES FOR SEASONAL.
STAFF.
AT CURRENTLY WE'VE BEEN USING
ABOUT FOUR POINT THREE FOUR
MILLION OF THIS PROGRAM FOR
SEASONAL STAFF BUT IT REQUIRES A
TECHNICAL TRANSFER FROM THE
STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. THIS
WOULD MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT
PROCESS AND NO LONGER REQUIRED
THAT TECHNICAL TRANSFER.
IT ALSO MAKES PERMANENT SOME
FIVE PROJECTS THAT WE USE THE
SEED MONEY THAT WAS MADE
AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS REVENUE
GENERATION PROJECT.
THE TYPES OF.
THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT
INCLUDED IS SAY ENHANCING.
ELECTRICAL HOOKUPS FOR RV
OPENING UP NEW CAMP LOOPS WE
OPENED UP A COUPLE OF NEW TOURS
AT HEARST CASTLE AND UNDER THIS
PROGRAM WERE LIMITED TO USE
THESE FUNDS. TO ON GENERATE
REVENUE HELL BUT ONCE THE
PROJECT IS DEEMED TO BE
SUCCESSFUL AND EARNING REVENUE
THEN WE WANT TO BUILD IT IN THE
BAY SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT THIS WOULD DO. AND
LASTLY BUT VERY IMPORTANTLY. IS
THAT THIS WOULD ALSO PROVIDE A
MECHANISM TO USE THE REVENUE
THAT'S EARNED FROM THIS PROGRAM
TO ACTUALLY REPLENISH THE BASE
OF THE STATE PARKS AND
RECREATION. FIND THAT WE'VE BEEN
DISCUSSING THAT A LOT WITH.
WITH YOUR STUFF
WE DID IT IN THAT GROUP VEIN HE
GOT.
SINCE I MEAN YOU GO THERE THE
HEARST CASTLE YOU'VE OPENED UP
SOME NEW ROOMS YET THAT I TO GET
DIFFERENT.
TOURS IS THAT TO GO BACK INTO
THE HEARST CASTLE AND SEVEN THAT
MAINTENANCE OR JUST GENERALLY
AND THE OUR STATE PARKS FUND.
THE WAY THE STATUTE IS WRITTEN
IS THAT THE THE MONEY THE
REVENUE THAT'S EARNED AT THAT
SPECIFIC PARK COMES BACK TO
BENEFIT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM
THINKING AND UNDER THE STATUTE
WERE ALSO REQUIRED TO SET
TARGETS FOR EACH DISTRICT.
AND CERTAIN PERCENTAGES WHEN THE
DISTRICT IS ABLE TO ACHIEVE AN
AMOUNT OF REVENUE ABOVE THAT
TARGET THE PERCENTAGE GOES BACK
TO THE FIELDS. TO ASO
INCENTIVIZE MORE INNOVATIVE
THINKING ABOUT REVENUE
GENERATION AND THE OTHER HALF OF
THAT AMOUNT GOES BACK ON TO
HEADQUARTERS TO BENEFIT THE
ENTIRE SYSTEM.
OKAY.
I QUESTIONS.
ALEJO.
WE ARE IS CONCERNED WITH ME I
GUESS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO THINK OF
THE NEXT COACHELLA AT A STATE
PARK YOU KNOW AND SORT OF GET
PEOPLE. WHATEVER THAT NEW IDEA
IS.
THE NORTH WEST US OPEN UP THE
PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE ON HIGH
ISSUE NUMBER SIXTY ONE OTHER
HERE PERSONS HERE AND THIS GUY
ARE. LIVING GENERATION PROGRAM.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS WILL CONSIDER
HOW CENTER MCGUIRE.
THE NIGHT SHOULD REMEMBER THE.
THERE GOV DANCE WORK AND FUN.
BETTER ADDRESSING THAT THAT THE
ONLY ITEM I WOULD SAY ON THAT ON
THE PROGRAM IS.
WHEN THERE ARE. LONG TIME MOM
AND POP.
.
THEN USE THAT WERE USING RIGHT
AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS ALL ISSUES
IN REGARDS TO. A ANGEL IN A SAID
AT.
LITTLE BIT AT THIS IS RELATED
BUT NOT DIRECTLY.
IT'S MAKING SURE THAT WERE
WORKING WITH FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN
IN THE COMMUNITY WANTING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO MEET
OUR SPECS OBVIOUSLY. BUT THEN
ALSO FINDING THAT BALANCE
BETWEEN AYE REVENUE GENERATION
IN THE PRICING OUT THOSE
BELOVED.
COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO.
.
MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH
LARGE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR TO
A BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION AND
I THINK THAT'S THE THE ONE
PIECE.
OF ONE WE'RE WORKING WITH
VENDORS UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE
THIS REVENUE GENERATION PROGRAM
WANTING TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE
THE BOTTOM LINE. JUST WALKING
THAT BALLOTS.
SENATOR I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S
AN IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT WE HAVE
TO CONSIDER AS A STATE AGENCY IS
THE PUBLIC RESOURCE CODE
ACTUALLY REQUIRES.
THAT WE HAVE LONG TERM
ARRANGEMENTS AND LIMITS OUR
ABILITY TO HAVE VERY WORTH MONTH
ARRANGEMENT SO WE'RE HAPPY TO
TALK ABOUT ANY STATUTORY CHANGES
TO THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO
MAKE EXCEPTIONS.
FOR CERTAIN VENDORS FROM BUT
THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS
PROPOSAL.
I DON'T THINK IN MY WORDS I WAS
ASKING FOR ANY TYPE OF AN
EXCEPTION FOR CERTAIN VENDOR SO
I DON'T KNOW WHY HE WENT THERE.
BITE ON WHAT MY POINT WAS IS
THAT AS WE I'M.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD WHAT I WANT
TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE ARE ALSO
TAKING INTO ACCOUNT.
WORKING WITH WITH THE SPECS THAT
WE ALREADY HAVE AS I SAID IS
THAT THERE ALSO HAS TO BE SOME
TYPE OF BALANCE AS WELL OF
WANTING TO BE OF A DRIVE REVENUE
FOR THE PARKS AND THEN DRIVE OUT
THOSE. WHO HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
THERE IN OUR PARTNER IN THE GOOD
TIMES AND BAD THAT'S ALL INSANE
BUT I I DON'T THINK I'M LOOKING
AT BEING ABLE WORK OUTSIDE THE
SPECS IT NOT SAY THAT?
OKAY.
HAVE HEALTHCARE CENTER STERN.
WELL I DID THE PROPONENT I JUST
WANNA GET ONE POINT
CLARIFICATION.
ELIMINATE ME THOUGH THE VAN
VENDORS DEFINING CONCESSIONAIRES
WHO WERE TIME IT WORDS OF THE
SAME. THAT'S THE SAME OKAY SO.
SOME OF THESE MASTER CONCESSION
AGREEMENTS VENTURE RECOGNIZING
AND THEY NEED TO BE LONGER TERM
ARE THERE NOT OPPORTUNITIES FOR
SORT OF SUB CONCESSION CONTRACTS
IS A LOT OF TIMES YOU GRANT THE
CONCESSION AND THEN. YOU LEAVE
IT UP TO THE CONCESSIONAIRE TO
SUB SUB THAT OUT AND I KNOW
THAT'S HOW IT WORKS ON OUR OUR
HISTORIC PIER FOR INSTANCE
THERE'S A MASTER CONCESSION
AGREEMENT. AND AT A RESTAURANT
LOCAL RESTAURANT OWNER THEN GETS
THE SUB AND THEY PAY YOU TO DO
THE MASTER CONCESSIONAIRE THAN
THEY PAY BACK TO YOU. BUT
LOOKING AT THAT DELTA BETWEEN
SORT OF WHAT.
WHAT YOU'RE GETTING OUT OF THAT
MASTER AGREEMENT ON A LONGER
TERM AND THEN? WHAT? IF THEY'RE
SQUEEZING THE SUB
CONCESSIONAIRES WHO MAY BE THE
SMALL MOM AND POP SAID. GOOD
CENTER FROM NORTH COAST IS
RAISING AND THAT SEEMS LIKE
MAYBE A. A GOOD AREA TO FOCUS ON
THAT YOU YOU COULD HAVE THAT.
THE GOOD COMMUNITY FEEL LOT OF
TIMES THAT THERE'S SORT OF A
TEXTURAL IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY
BUT IT'S A COMPONENT BUT.
SOME OF THOSE FOLKS HAVE TROUBLE
HOLDING ON WEDNESDAY THEIR LEASE
GETS BUMPED UP OR YOU KNOW THE
COUNTRY THEY COME TO GET
SQUEEZED BY THE MASTER DO YOU
ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT SORT OF
SUB SIDE OF THINGS.
YES I GUESS I WOULD SAY THIS
EVEN FROM A HIGHER LEVEL
PERSPECTIVE OF THE US YOU KNOW
WE HAVE VERY LONG TIME
ARRANGEMENTS WITH SO MANY OF
OUR.
CONCESSIONAIRES OUR PARTNERS
ACROSS THE STATE PARK SYSTEM.
AND A VERY FROM FROM PARK TO
PARK
AND FROM VENDOR TO VENDOR AND I
CAN KNOWLEDGE THAT THE SIZE OF
THE VENDORS IN THE
CONCESSIONAIRES VIERI'S.
VARIES VARIES VASTLY FROM PLACE
TO PLACE.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE WE
STRUCTURE OUR OUR OWN WHEN WE
WHEN WE PUT OUT OR AN IRISH
PINI.
WE FIRST ENGAGE WITH THE
COMMUNITY WERE VERY THOUGHTFUL
ABOUT IT IT'S NOT JUST ALL ABOUT
REVENUE GENERATION BUT WE TRY TO
STRUCTURE IN SUCH A WAY. THAT
IT'S AS COMPETITIVE AS POSSIBLE
AND AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE.
ALSO AS WE GO THROUGH THAT
PROCESS THERE'S NUMEROUS
OCCASIONS FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
BEFORE WE ACTUALLY FINALIZED THE
DOCUMENTS AND PUT IT OUT.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A
REALLY KEY IMPORTANT ON POINT OF
ALL OF THIS.
YOU KNOW IT'S KIND OF
INTERESTING TALKING ABOUT
REVENUE GENERATION RELATIVE TO
PARKS IS A VERY DELICATE THING
RIGHT BECAUSE ON ONE HAND WE ALL
RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED RESOURCES
TO KIND OF DELIVER ALL OF THE
SURFACE THE SERVICES.
BUT ALSO THERE'S KIND OF THE
SANCTITY WITH THAT'S WHAT THE
WITH THE STATE PARK SYSTEM. AND
SO ON ONE HAND WE NEED TO BE
BUSINESS MINDED BUT WE ALSO HAVE
TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL AND
GRACEFUL ABOUT ALL OF IT MAKING
SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH
PARK GRAPHICS.
SO WE HAVE TO THREAD THE NEEDLE
AND ALL OF THESE THINGS.
AND IN THE PARTICULAR CASE AND
IS ALSO DIRECTOR I'LL SPEAK
CANDIDLY WITH YOU IN A
PARTICULAR LEE WHEN WE ARE
WORKING WITH LONGTIME VENDORS
AND WE'VE BUILT RELATIONSHIPS SO
SUSPEND FOR A MOMENT. THE
REVENUE GENERATION SIDE OF THAT.
THESE ARE PEOPLE AND THE LOCAL
COMMUNITY THAT ARE VERY WELL
CONNECTED AND HAVE A VERY CLOSE
WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR
OWN DISTRICT FIELD STOP.
THERE'S THE REVENUE SIDE OF THE
MATH SIDE OF THESE
RELATIONSHIPS.
BUT THESE GROUPS ALSO TEND TO BE
SOME OF THE BEST AMBASSADORS.
FOR OUR STATE PARKS SYSTEM. HOME
SO I ONLY SHARED VYTORIN DID
DOESN'T NECESSARILY ANSWER ALL
OF THE DETAILS OF YOUR QUESTION
BUT I CAN ASSURE THAT TO GIVE
YOU A SENSE OF THE CONTACTS.
WITH WHICH WE WE CONSIDER THESE
TYPES OF THINGS I PER I
APPRECIATE THAT AND AND PERHAPS
ONE AREA FALL OF THE WE COULD
LOOK AT HIS.
THOSE LONGER TERM AGREEMENTS
THAT SURE IN.
WHAT IS THAT SYSTEMATIC SORT OF
REVIEW PROCESS LOOK LIKE SO YOU
KNOW YOU HAVE A LEGACY CONTRACTS
SAY YOU'VE YOU'VE ENTERED AT A
TEN YEAR AGREEMENT OR OF OR EVEN
HAVE? A FIVE YEAR COULD MEAN
THAT EVEN PREDATES THE NEW
VISION.
PARKS FORWARD.
AND IN SOME CASES YOU KNOW.
MARKET CONDITIONS CHANGE AND
AGAIN THE SUB ARRANGEMENTS
CHANGE ARE ARE YOU LOOKING IS
THERE SORT OF.
SYSTEMATIC EVALUATION OF.
THE SUB CONCESSION CONTRACTS AND
MAKING SURE THAT.
AGAIN THIS.
THIS SQUEEZING OR OVER
COMMODITIZATION OF THE PARKS
ISN'T HAPPENING BECAUSE I I
AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT I GET
WORRIED FOR INSTANCE WHEN THE
CONCESSIONAIRE JACKS UP THE
PARKING COSTS.
TO COME TO THE BEACH AT MALIBU
UP TO IT YOU KNOW FORTY DOLLARS
A DAY KNOWN SIMILAR COME TO
MALIBU PIER. A TO GO VISIT THAT
IF YOU KNOW IF IF THAT'S WHAT
THEY END UP HAVING TO PAY RIGHT
BUT WHEN THEY HAVE DISCRETION TO
DO THAT AS AS THE MASTER. DOWN
TO THE SUBURBS ARE PUSHED AT ON
THEM THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A
CHOICE SO I.
WHAT IS THIS SORT OF ONGOING
CONTRACT REVIEW? THAT VENDOR
AGREEMENT REVIEW PROCESS LOOK
LIKE I THINK WE WILL WE'LL GET
THAT FOR YOU AND WE CAN BRING IT
TO YOU CAN. THANK YOU.
THEN I'LL.
GERMANS.
THAT'S. RIGHT QUICKLY DIDN'T
STUDENTS.
AND DO WE WANT OF. ENTERTAIN
MOTION ON THIS ONE AS WE CAN
HUNDRED ON CALL FOR THE CHAIRMAN
TO RETURNS.
BUT WE HAVE A MOTION HERE ON.
ITEM SIXTY ONE SO. IT IS MOVED
BY THAT SIXTY ONE.
BUT I DID ASK FOR ANY TESTIMONY
ANYBODY IN THE. OF.
NOBODY.
THAT WILL LEAD TO MOTIONS STAND.
WHO HAD CALLED?
WIECKOWSKI.
NIELSEN AYE. REQUIRED.
STERN BY. THEN WILL MOVE A CALL
ON THAT TO THE CHAIRMAN RETURNS.
OKAY.
NEXT ONE IS.
THE BA TEN TRIANGLE RANCH
ACQUISITION.
PLEASE PROCEED. THE MORNING
MEMBERS JOSH WHEN NELSON WITH
THE NATURAL RESOURCES AGENCY UP
REPRESENTING ON BEHALF OF THE
SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS
CONSERVANCY.
AND THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU THE
CONCERNS HE'S REQUESTING TWENTY
FIVE POINT THREE MILLION PROP
SIXTY EIGHT. AND TWO POINT THREE
MILLION PROP ONE FOR THE
ACQUISITION OF THE THREE HUNDRED
AND TWENTY ONE ACRE TRIANGLE
ORANGE PROPERTY.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST
SOUTH OF THE CITY OF AGORA HILLS
IN THIS THE GATEWAY INTO THE
SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS NATIONAL
RECREATION AREA WILDLIFE QUARTER
FOR BOTH EAST WEST AND NORTH
SOUTH MOVEMENT.
THERE'S PRESENCE OF RICH
RIPARIAN HABITAT IN THE CENTRAL
PORTION THE PROPERTY AND THE
EASTERN PORTION THE PROPERTIES
ENTIRELY IN SIGNIFICANT
ECOLOGICAL AREA.
THINGS FEDERALLY LISTED IN
FEDERALLY THREATENED SPECIES
THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE MISSION OF
THE CONSERVANCY.
STRATEGICALLY BUYBACK PRESERVE
PROTECT RESTORE ENHANCE
TREASURED PIECES OF SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA FORM INTERLOCKING
SYSTEM OF URBAN AND RURAL AND
RIVER PARKS OPEN SPACE TRAILS.
WHEN WILDLIFE HABITATS ARE
EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR THE
PUBLIC.
WITH THAT I'LL TAKE ANY
QUESTIONS
YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS.
AND.
.
HE IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR.
THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS
CONSERVANCY. HISTORIC
ACQUISITIONS AS IF IT'S
COMPATIBLE WITH. YOU HAVE A
MASTER PLAN A LOT OF THE LOCAL
AREA PLANS
AS WELL SO IT'S VERY COMPLEMENT
AREA FOR ALL THAT.
THE END OF AN ISSUE IN ALL OF
OUR PARKS AND I TRUST IN THESE
AS WELL.
DO YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO
MAINTAIN WHAT YOU ACQUIRE.
I THE ACQUISITION IN THIS.
THE SHORT ANSWER SENATORS YES
AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR THE
MAJORITY THESE FINDINGS ARE
LOCAL ASSISTANCE GRANT FUNDS OF
THE GOING OUT FOR THE
ACQUISITION OF. OF THE RANCH
ITSELF BUT YES THAT IS ALL BEING
MONITORED AT HANDLED WITHIN THE
GRANT AGREEMENT.
THIN SURE THAT THESE THINGS ARE
MONITORED AND TAKE CARE OF.
IN THE FUTURE BUT YOU CAN'T.
FUND.
OUT OF A GRAND YOU NOT FUNDING
THE MAKE LET'S PARTY.
NO BUT FAIR WORKING WITH LOCALS
IN THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH PRIOR
ACQUISITIONS OF THE CONSERVANCY
TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND AND
TAKE CARE OF THESE LANDS ONCE
ARE REQUIRED.
ANY OBSERVATIONS FROM THE
GENTLEST OR FINANCE.
WE HAVE VARIOUS CONCERTS OKAY
FINANCING ON THIS FROM.
YES PLEASE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR.
.
THIS PIECE OF LAND IS REMARKABLE
SIGNIFICANT NOT JUST FOR ITS
HABITAT BUT. I I I DRIVE BY IT
EVERY WAY ON EVERY OTHER WAY THE
OFFICE.
.
IT. ON THE LOCAL SIDE I KNOW
THERE ARE EFFORTS UNDERWAY TO TO
PROVIDE THAT SUPPLEMENTAL
FUNDING TO DO THE ONGOING
OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE SO.
WE JUST APPRECIATE YOU ALL BRING
IN THIS FORWARD TO TO SHOW THAT
SORT OF STATE.
EQUITY STAKE IF YOU WILL BUT.
.
THIS WILL HAVE BENEFITS FAR
BEYOND JUST THAT REGION THAT
THAT PIECE OF LAND IS PRETTY
REMARKABLE SO I KNOW THE STAFF
RECOMMENDATION IS TO HOLD THIS
OPEN TODAY BUT. LOOK FOR TO
WORKING WITH YOU ALL TO TRY TO
SEE THIS THROUGH A DESIGNER
BANKS.
IT LOOKED LIKE IT WILL BE HELD
OPEN AND WE APPRECIATE THE
ENTHUSIASM OF SOMEONE WHO DRIVES
BY IT ALL THE TIME.
THIRTY FIVE FORTY. OF THIS WOULD
BE THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY
AND FIRE PROTECTION. YES WE'VE
COVERED ALL OF.
RESOURCES ISSUES NOW CORRECT.
OKAY.
DIRECTOR PIMLOTT AND YOUR TEAM.
THEN THIS IS ARE OFTEN
DISCUSSED.
HELICOPTER ACQUISITION.
IF THE MORNING CENTER NIELSEN
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE CAN
TELL WHAT DIRECTOR OF CAL FIRE
AND WITH ME TODAY. IS OUR CHIEF
OF FIRE PROTECTION CHAU TYLER.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR
PROPOSAL ISSUE SIXTY THREE TODAY
THE HELICOPTER ACQUISITION.
AND SUPPORT.
BUT BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTED
FUNDING.
OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO
ACQUIRE A ELEVEN HELICOPTERS.
THAT WILL ULTIMATELY REPLACE.
DE EXISTING A YOU H. WHEN.
HUEY FLEET OF HELICOPTERS ARE
CURRENTLY IN SERVICE THAT DATE
BACK TO THE VIETNAM. ERA.
OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT
THREE YEARS FUNDING IN THIS BCP
IS REQUESTED TO PROVIDE BUT IN
ADDITION TO THE HELICOPTERS
THEMSELVES ABOUT FIFTEEN
POSITIONS PRIMARILY THE
ADDITIONAL PILOTS REQUIRED. TO
FLY THESE HELICOPTERS AYE AT
NIGHT IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS
AROUND THE STATE.
AS WELL AS THE SUPPORT COSTS.
BOTH ONE TIME AN ON GOING TO
KEEP THE UP THE OPERATION AND
MAINTENANCE OF THESE.
HELICOPTERS AND PUT THEM TAUGHT
IN SERVICE.
AGAIN THESE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT AN
OPPORTUNITY MOVING FORWARD.
TO PROVIDE WE HAVE ONE
OPPORTUNITY I WAS SUCH A LARGE
SIGNIFICANT PURCHASE TO ENSURE
THE CALIFORNIA GETS THE PLATFORM
OF HELICOPTER FOR WILDLAND
FIREFIGHTING THAT IT NEEDS TO
CARRY US INTO. THE NEXT NUMBER
OF DECADES AND AS WE HAVE SEEN
OUR IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS
THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE FACING
IN THE WILDLAND FIRE ENVIRONMENT
ACROSS
CALIFORNIA. IS BECOMING EXTREME
LAST YEAR TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN
AS THE GOVERNOR SAID CLEARLY
THIS IS BECOMING. THE NEW NORM
AND WE NEED A PLATFORM WE ARE
DRIVING THE SPECIFICATION
CALIFORNIA'S DRIVING. ABOUT WHAT
IS NEEDED TO COMBAT THIS
INCREASE CHALLENGE WE ARE FACING
IN THE HELICOPTER PLATFORM THAT
WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH
CLEARLY REPRESENTS. OF THE NEEDS
OF THE PEOPLE SUPPORT THE NEEDS
THAT WE'VE INDICATED SO HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE
COMMITTEE.
IF.
WELL HOW ABOUT.
YES.
OKAY FUNDS.
I GUESS I AM.
AMMAN.
THE LATER.
SO.
I'M TRYING TO FIND.
I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW MUCH
A HELICOPTER COSTS OTHER THAN
THE STAFF REPORT TO THE HAVE SO.
DID GET A HAVE TO HELP ME HERE
BECAUSE THREE HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS IS A BIG CHUNK OF
CHANGE.
WE'VE WE'VE HEARD MY DISCUSSIONS
ON AND ABOUT PREVENTION SO THIS
IS I'M GONNA NEED A LITTLE HELP
HERE SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND
THAT IF I JUST WALKED.
INTO THE HELICOPTER STORE.
WITH IN THE GET A HELICOPTER
WITH NOTHING IN IT JUST.
DEAR AND NOTHING IT. THAT'S.
EIGHTEEN MILLION DOLLARS IN
CHANGE IS THAT.
MORE LESS TRUE.
THAT'S IN THE RANGE OF THE OF A
BASE PRICE OF UP AND OTHER
HELICOPTER OF THAT THIS THIS
SIZE READY GET I GUESS WE'RE
LOOKING AT IT WE GET.
SIKORSKY S. SEVENTY FIVE HIGH
AND THE AGUSTAWESTLAND A W. ONE
EIGHTY.
NINE SO THAT'S IT SO THIS IS
THAT'S WERE THAT'S THE BASIS
START RIGHT.
CORRECT IN LET ME IN FRAME THAT
FOR YOU THERE. AND THE ANALOGY
OF THE HELICOPTER SHOW ROOM IS
PERFECT BECAUSE. THERE IS NO.
HELICOPTER SITTING ON THE
SHOWROOM FLOOR.
THAT FIGHT'S WILDLAND FIRES THE
WAY THAT THE STATE AND REALLY
THE WESTERN UNITED STATES NEEDS
ABOUT IN TWO THOUSAND AND
EIGHTEEN GOING FORWARD.
CALIFORNIA AND STATE A
CALIFORNIA'S LOUIS DRIVING.
THE SPECIFICATION BASED ON OUR
EXPERTISE AND NEED FOR WERE WE
NEED TO GO INTO THE FUTURE.
SO THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE
PUT FORWARD NOW BASED ON A
NUMBER OF STUDIES THAT WE HAVE
DONE AND.
GOING OUT ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT
IN ARE OPERATIONAL EXPERTS IN
OUR AVIATION ASIAN EXPERTS.
PAINSTAKING EFFORT TO BUILD A
SPECIFICATION.
I AS THE ULTIMATE DECIDER WAS
UNWAVERING.
IN A NUMBER OF AREAS WITH THE
SPECIFICATIONS INCLUDING THE
ABILITY TO HAVE.
TWO ENGINES TO BE ABLE TO FLY AT
NIGHT TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM
SIGNIFICANTLY. BY AT ALTITUDE
BECAUSE IT ON ANY GIVEN DAY BACK
HELLFIRE WITHIN OPERATE AT SEA
LEVEL ON THE COAST OR THAT
AFTERNOON WE CAN BE AT FOURTEEN
THOUSAND FEET. CRESTING THE
SIERRA NEVADA AND WE NEED TO DO
THAT CARRYING PAYLOAD CARRYING
WATER WELL AND TO BE ABLE OF
FORM WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF TOUGH
OPERATIONAL TIME.
TO FIGHT FIRE IN AND MOVE
RESOURCES AROUND AS THAT WE WERE
VERY CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING
AND SPECIFICATIONS THAT TRULY
WERE ROBUST AND MET THE NEEDS
AND CAPABILITIES OF THE STATE.
GOING FORWARD AND THAT DIDN'T
EXIST ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR OUT
WE LITERALLY DROVE THIS.
AND AGAIN WORKED WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES
TO ULTIMATELY I HAVE THEM PLACE
THAT OUT TO BID FOR US BUT
CLEARLY SOME OF OUR FRIENDS I
MEAN. YOU KNOW WE'RE TALKING
FOURTEEN THOUSAND FEET SO THE
SWISS MUST HAVE THEY GOT A LOT
OF MOUNTAINS IN SWITZERLAND THEY
MUST HAVE SOME HELICOPTERS THAT
HAVE TO THE COOPER THE OREGONIAN
SIR WASHINGTONIANS I MEAN I'D.
IT IT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE GOT
THIS GIFT FROM. THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT THIRTY YEARS AGO AND
WE HAVE TO IT'S LIKE THE MINI
VAN THAT I DRIVE AROUND I'M
GETTING EVEY PENNY WORTH. OUT
OF OUT OF IT SO I SO I APPLIED
CAL FIRE ON THE USE OF THE OLD
EQUIPMENT BUT. THERE MUST BE
SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING
A PRETTY GOOD CHOPPER WHERE THEY
MUST'VE BOUGHT OF A NEW
HELICOPTER RIGHT.
I MEAN IT IS IT OR IS EVERYBODY
STILL AND THE VIETNAM ERA AS FAR
AS A STATES ARE CONCERNED. THERE
CERTAINLY ARE A VARIETY OF BOB
PROGRAMS AROUND.
THE WORLD.
THAT UTILIZE.
WILDLAND FIREFIGHTING
HELICOPTERS NO ONE IN THE WORLD.
HOW'S THE RESPONSE
RESPONSIBILITIES THE POPULATION
THE WILDLAND THREAT. AND THE
PROGRAM THAT CALIFORNIA HAS AS
IT RELATES TO WERE DRIVING. THE
WOODEN LITERALLY THE INDUSTRY
THE WILDLAND FIREFIGHTING
COMMUNITY.
IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NEED TO
COMBAT.
THESE CHALLENGES THAT WE
LITERALLY BUILT SPECS AND PUT IT
OUT TO THE WORLD.
TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE FOR BID
THIS PROCESS VERY OPEN WE HAD NO
PRECONCEIVED
KNOWLEDGE WE NEEDED TO SEE THIS
IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR VENDORS TO
BUILD.
THE HELICOPTER
WE'VE. PROVIDED SPECIFICATIONS
TO MEET OUR NEEDS.
I AND THAT'S WHAT WE PUT
FORWARD.
OKAY SO I DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE
I IC THEN THE SIKORSKY PIT AT
LEAST THE ATTAIN HELICOPTER
WE'RE LOOKING AT.
TOWARD THE MILLION THREE HUNDRED
DOLLARS SO.
AGAIN I EGGMAN I MAKE THE
ANALOGY OF THE VEHICLES BECAUSE
WE'RE ALL USED TO BUYING A
VEHICLES AND YOU SAY OKAY I GOT
SOME.
I DON'T.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRICKED OUT
BUT I THINK YOU'RE BETTER AT
FOUR MILLION THREE HUNDRED AND
WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF TOOLS.
THAT YOU NEED WERE THAT THAT
THAT THE HELICOPTER NEED STEPPED
AYE I WOULD NORMALLY NOT.
PERHAPS
APPRECIATE. GREAT QUESTION SO
WHILE AND FIRE FIGHTING
HELICOPTER HAS A VARIETY OF OF
NEEDS AND EQUIPMENT. THE ON WHAT
THAT THE BASE MODEL IF YOU WILL
IN HIS HELICOPTER LOOKS LIKE.
A BIG COMPONENT OF THAT OVER A
HALF OF THESE HELICOPTERS WILL
BE WHAT WE CALL TANK TO THEY
WILL HAVE. A TAKE A IT WILL BE
FIXED INTO THE BOTTOM OF THE
HELICOPTER THAT'S BY COMPARISON
TO THE OTHER HALF THAT WILL HAVE
A BUCKET YOU SEEN ME THAT WHILE
AND FIREFIGHTING HELICOPTERS. TO
DIFFERENT WAYS OF DELIVERING
WATER AND FIRE RETARDANT TO THE
FIRE.
NOT WE USE BOASTS THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA THE TANK HELICOPTER
PROVIDES.
OPERATIONAL NEEDS AROUND URBAN
AREAS WHERE WE HAVE ONE ACCESS
TO WATER THROUGH PUMPING IT UP
THROUGH FIRE ENGINES WE CAN
ACHIEVE FILL THE TANK VERSES.
DIPPING FROM PONDS WHERE THEY
MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE IN THE MORE
URBAN INTERFACE AREAS ALSO
BECAUSE SAFER WORKING AROUND.
INCORPORATED AREAS WHERE THERE
ISN'T THAT.
NO THREAT OF IMPACT BUCKET
IMPACTING POWERLINES AND OTHER
THINGS THAT THEY COULD COME IN
CONTACT WITH SO THAT'S KEY
BECAUSE THAT THE ABILITY TO HAVE
THE WATER TANK AND THAT'S A
SIGNIFICANT AGAIN ADD ON. OR
ADDITION TO THE HELICOPTER THE
HELICOPTERS JUST LIKE OUR
HELICOPTERS HAVE NOW BUT WILL
HAVE HOISTED HIS VOICE ARE
DESIGNED TO EXTRACT
FIREFIGHTERS.
BECOME INJURED ON THE FIRE LINE
MEMBER WE FIGHT FIRES WELL OUT
INTO REMOTE AREAS THERE ARE
AMBULANCES THAT CAN DRIVE TO THE
EDGE OF THE FIRE LINE. TO PICK
UP THESE FIREFIGHTERS AND SO ARE
ALL OF OUR HELICOPTERS WILL BE
EQUIPPED WITH VOICE SO WE CAN
SAFELY PULL FIREFIGHTERS FROM
THE FIRE LINE BRING THEM INTO
THE CABIN OF THE HELICOPTER. AND
FLY THEM TO AN AREA WHERE WE
CAN.
PROVIDE THEM WITH MEDICAL
ATTENTION.
NOW THERE'S OTHER SERVICES TO WE
TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER THEIR
HERE OF THAT. THE HELICOPTERS
COMMUTER.
AND I GUESS EH LIKE A DIFFERENT
EMERGENCIES THAT IT WAS NOT A
FIRE I'M THINKING THERE'S
QUICKER SOMETHING LIKE THAT A
SCENE THAT YOU CAN DO. THOSE.
WHAT TRIGGERS THAT BEING
AVAILABLE IS IN THE ACTUAL CD?
STATE DECLARED EMERGENCY.
IN OFFICE CITY FOR TEN THE
SAYING WE'VE GOT. A PROBLEM CAN
WE GET ONE THE HELICOPTERS TO
PULL PEOPLE OUT HAD INVITED AT
NOT REALLY SURE WHERE THE
JURISDICTION.
THE SHARED JURISDICTION IS VERY
GOOD QUESTION BUT THE PRIMARY
ROLE OF THESE HELICOPTERS IS
WILDLAND FIRE FIGHTING THAT WE
AGAIN MY DIRECTION WAS VERY
CLEAR IN BILLINGS SPECIFICATIONS
THAT THEY WILL BE. ONE HUNDRED
PERCENT FUNCTIONAL O. AS A
WILDLAND FIRE FIGHTING
HELICOPTER BUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE
CAPABILITIES ARE THEY ALSO CAN'T
FUNCTION IN OTHER ENVIRONMENTS
PERFORMING. A RESCUE AND
EXTRACTIONS AS REQUESTED BUT
THAT'S NOT. OUR PRIMARY ROLE NOR
THE PRIMARY ROLE THE HELICOPTERS
WE WORK LOCALLY. AYE WITH OUR
PARTNERS.
THE LOCAL SHERIFF'S OFFICES
LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT. GOAL
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES
OPERATIONAL AREAS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE. IFOTHER PRIMARY
HELICOPTERS AREN'T AVAILABLE
THROUGH THE HIGHWAY PATROL TO
THE LOCAL SHERIFF OR. OTHER
DEPARTMENTS THEN YES THAT WAS.
AN ARC AB AIRCRAFT ARE
AVAILABLE AND NOT ACTIVELY
FIGHTING WILDLAND FIRE THEY CAN
CERTAINLY BE PURPOSE TO.
TO PROVIDE THAT RECENTLY ONE
ENSURE. BY EMERGENCY RESOURCES
ARE AVAILABLE WITH BEING
REQUESTED.
SO.
OKAY LET'S MOVE TO THE HANGAR
BECAUSE IT WILL IT LOOKSIS THAT
WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT
HELICOPTER GARAGE.
OR. HELLO PATTER Y. WHATEVER THE
FOR TWO MINUTES POINT FIVE
MILLION AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A
BARRACKS NEXT TO IT FOR EIGHT
HUNDRED MILLION GENERALLY.
SO WE HAVE A HELICOPTER PAD OR
PARKING SPOT AND WE HAVE A OLD
VIETNAM ERA.
SO WHAT'S.
I GUESS THE FIRST THING IS
WHAT'S IN THE THE NEW HELIPAD.
PARKING FACILITY. FOR TWO POINT
FIVE MILLION I JUST WANT TO GET
IT.
I IT THAT THINK IT'S TWO POINT
FIVE MILLION.
THANK YOU SIR A JOE TYLER AND
SHE FIRE PROTECTION.
SO WHAT WE HAVE.
TIM HEL BASES LOCATED
STRATEGICALLY ACROSS THE TO
CALIFORNIA THOUGHT WITH AN
AVIATION MANAGEMENT UNIT HERE IN
SACRAMENTO MCCLELLAN.
BUT EACH ONE OF THOSE EPISODES
CURRENTLY HAS A HELIPAD AND
CURRENTLY USING THE YOU EACH ONE
H. SUPER HUEY HELICOPTER THAT
YEAH HAS SKIDS IS ABLE TO A
DISTRIBUTOR ITS WAY ACROSS THE
PADS.
THE NEW HELICOPTERS REGARDLESS
OF.
WHICH HELICOPTER IN MAY HAVE
BEEN THAT WAS COMPETITIVE.
IS A A HELICOPTER THE HAS
WHEELS SO THERE ARE THREE POINTS
OF DISTRIBUTION THAT WILL LAND
ON THE HELIPAD CPAS
LIKELY. BUT IN DISCUSSION WITH A
TECH SERVICES OUR TECHNICAL
SERVICES FOLKS ARE MANAGEMENT
SERVICES FOLKS.
THEY ARE.
.
CONFIDENT THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT
THE EXISTING HELIPADS ARE
CAPABLE OF.
OF HAVING THESE HELICOPTERS
LAND WITHIN THEM COVER THESE
HELIPADS WERE BUILT MANY MANY
YEARS AGO.
THE AYES AND MANY OF OUR.
FACILITIES THERE ARE AGING.
SO THEY HAVE REQUESTED.
THROUGH HIS PROPOSAL TO HAVE
FUNDING CAPABLE OF.
SHOULD THESE HAVE YOUR
HELICOPTERS START DECORATING
THE.
HELIPADS THEMSELVES THAT THEY
WILL BE ABLE TO GOING TO REPAIR
THOSE.
BUT S WE TALK ABOUT HANGERS.
ALL OF THESE HELICOPTERS ARE.
.
ARE GOING TOBE SITTING ON THERE
HELIPADS DURING THE DAY AND IN
FACT THE OUT FOR THE HELICOPTERS
IN THE PROPOSAL.
THAT MAY BE FLYING AT NIGHT WE
WOULD BE LIKELY LEAVING THOSE
HELICOPTERS ON THE PAD.
AT NIGHT AS WELL TO FACILITATE
RAPID RESPONSE WITHIN ONE TO TWO
MINUTES
A ATTACHED TO THE GROUND POWER
UNIT.
IN INCLEMENT WEATHER THERE
WOULD BE TIMES IN WHICH.
OR WHEN HELICOPTERS RESTORE
DURING THE WINTER THERE.
WOULD BE TIMES IN WHICH THEY
WOULD BE MOVED INTO.
AYE HANGER
NOW HANGERS THAT WE HAVE
CURRENTLY IN OUR TEN HELL BASES
ACROSS THE STATE.
MANY OF THEM ARE.
ARE DESIGNED IN CAPABLE OF
HOLDING A SUPER HUEY HELICOPTER.
HOWEVER WE BELIEVE THAT.
.
THAT OVER TIME THROUGH THE
NORMAL CAPITAL OUTLAY PROCESS.
THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO REPLACE
THOSE HANGARS OF THROUGH THE
THAT THAT NORMAL PROCESS
AND I VERSUS TRYING TO REPLACE
THE HANGERS WELL IN ADVANCE.
IT IS IT'S THE IDEA THAT WE'RE
GOING TO.
FILL THE REPLACEMENT HANGER AND
YOU HAVE THE OLD HANGAR THERE OR
WE DEMOLISHING OR WE HAVE AND.
GOT THAT FAR DOWN BECAUSE I
GUESS MY QUESTION MIKE MY
CONCERN MY NEXT QUESTION WHERE
I'M GOING IS THAT WE HAVE NOW.
ELEVEN ANTIQUE
HELICOPTERS.
BUT THEY'RE LIKE MY ANTIQUE MINI
VAN YOU KNOW I I I KNOW THERE'S
GOT TO BE SOME HELICOPTER GUY
THAT CAN. CANNIBALISED PARTS
BECAUSE IT SEEMS WHAT DO YOU
BEEN DOING THAT IS THAT THERE
ARE THESE IS THIS ASSET RENDERED
WORTHLESS TO WE SALEH TO ANOTHER
POOR STATE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY
HELICOPTERS. WHOM WHAT.
WHAT HAPPENS THERE IT AND THAT'S
WHY I'M ASKING ABOUT THE
PHYSICAL WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE NO
IT'S A VERY VERY GOOD QUESTION
SO THAT THERE ARE TOTAL OF
TWELVE HELICOPTERS THAT WERE
THERE ARE ELEVEN IN THE PROPOSAL
THIS YEAR OBVIOUSLY WE HAD ONE?
FUNDED.
IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR SO
IT'S A TOTAL OF TWELVE.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN AS OVER THE
NEXT THREE TO FOUR YEARS AS
THESE HELICOPTERS OF THE NEW
ONES ARE REQUIRED?
WE WILL BE RUNNING AS A DUAL
SYSTEM IN THAT OUGHT TO BE
PHASING OUT.
THE U. H. ONE A HUEY UNDERSTAND
WE DON'T WANT HAVE ANY
DEGRADATION. AND RESPONSE
CAPACITIES THAT WE ARE GOINGTO
ENSURE THAT EVERY DAY WE WILL BE
PUTTING UP. TEN FRONTLINE
HELICOPTERS AND TWO ABOUT
MAINTENANCE RESERVES BECAUSE WE
DON'T WANT TO DECORATE ANY
RESPONSE CAPABILITY DURING THIS
PROCESS. ULTIMATELY ALL TWELVE
OF THE U. EASE OVER THE NEXT.
NUMBER OF YEARS WILL BE PHASED
OUT THE HELICOPTERS WERE
ACTUALLY ACQUIRED THROUGH THE
FEDERAL EXCESS PROPERTY PROGRAM
THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT THE U. S.
FOR SERVICES MANAGED.
THEY'D REACH OUT TO IN GAME YOU
KNOW DEPARTMENT DEFENSE IN THIS
CASE DOD HELICOPTERS AND SO THEY
MANAGE THAT PROGRAMMING THEY
PROVIDE THOSE HELICOPTERS TO
STATES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
FOR.
A VERY SMALL FEE AND WE MANAGE
THE PROGRAM WE'VE MADE THE
AGREEMENT AS WE MAINTAIN
HELICOPTERS WE CAN USE THEM
HOWEVER WE NEED TO. HOWEVER WHEN
WE TAKE THEM OUT OF SERVICE AND
NO LONGER NEED THEM WE BEAT
PURPOSE THOSE. BACK THROUGH THE
FOREST SERVICE THEY ACTUALLY ARE
BELONGING TO THE FEDERAL ACCESS
PROPERTY PROGRAM SO. OVER TIME
WE WILL WORK WITH THE FOREST
SERVICE AND CERTAINLY WE WANT TO
SEE WHAT THE. THE FOR THE
PLAYING FIELD LOOKS LIKE AND AND
CERTAINLY HELP ENSURE THOSE
HELICOPTERS GET TO ANOTHER.
PURPOSEFUL NEED BUT THEY ALL TO
ME THAT'S THE DECISION OF THE
FOREST SERVICE CONSULT ME THEY
OWN THEM.
WE HAVE.
LEN TO HAVE A COMMENT.
YEAH YES WE ANALYZE THE JANUARY
PROPOSAL A WE DID RECOMMEND
WITHHOLDING ACTION PENDING
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON
SPECIFICALLY. BECAUSE OF THE
COST OF SOME OF THE THE CATTLE
ODDLY AND SUPPORT COSTS WOULD BE
ASSOCIATED THAT IS INCLUDED IN
THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU THAT
CAME IN APRIL.
SO WE WE NO LONGER HAVE
CONCERNS THERE ARE WE AND WE DO
KNOW THAT THE WHOLE CUPS FULLY
WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED AT SOME
POINT. THAT IT IS A VERY
SIGNIFICANT BY GENERAL FUND.
INVESTMENT SO USE HAVE TO WEED
OUT AGAINST OTHER GENERAL FUND
PRIORITIES.
WILL THEY START THAT DISCUSSION
SEVERAL YEARS AGO THEY LEFT FOR
US BUT THAT'S A THAT'S A CAN YOU
SEEM TO DO PROCESS WITH THE
ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE.
THAT.
THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS YOU'RE
SATISFIED WITH THAT.
IT I THINK THE.
THEY WENT THROUGH THE
PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND AND THAT
WHEN I LIVED IN A BACK AND FORTH
BUT. THE MINISTER LAW JUDGED IT
WILL THAT.
MATTHEW LEWIS CULTURAL SOME.
TURNER NIELSEN.
ONE QUESTION I HAVE THIS IS A
VERY SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT IN
THIS.
INCREASED.
STATURE FROM WHAT WE WERE
ORIGINALLY. REPRESENTED.
BUT MY QUESTION IS WOULD WE AS A
AT OR WAS CONSIDERED RATHER.
A NUMBER OF GREATER NUMBERS OF
LESS EXPENSIVE.
COPTERS.
SO THAT WE COULD FIGHT AND MORAL
EFFORT LOCATIONS.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE FIRES.
IS THAT ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A
DRAW ON YOUR MORE LIMITED FLEET
AS OPPOSED TO HAVING AN EXPANDED
FLEET.
I DON'T SPEAK ANOTHER NO THANK
YOU SENATORS I CAN SPEAK FROM
OPERATIONAL COMPONENT OF THAT
AND FROM THE FISCAL SIDE I CAN
CERTAINLY DEFERRED TO.
THE FINANCE AGAIN IT GOES BACK
TO REGIONAL PEACE A.
WHEN WE BUILT THE SPECIFICATION
WE COST WAS.
NOT DRIVING THAT WE DON'T.
ABSENT OF COST WE BUILT WHAT
DOES THE STATE NEED
THE MEAT GETS WILDLAND FIRE
INITIAL ATTACK MISSION.
ACROSS CALIFORNIA AND LOOKING AT
HOW WE DEPLOY HELICOPTERS HOW
OUR HELICOPTERS RESPOND INITIAL
ATTACK WITH OUR GROUND FORCES
AND HOW THESE TEN HOW ATTACK
BASES. ARE PRE DEPLOYED OR AND
STRATEGICALLY LOCATED ACROSS THE
STATE THAT MODEL WORKS VERY VERY
WELL FOR CALIFORNIA SO THE
SPECIFICATIONS BUILT IN IT THESE
HELICOPTERS AND THE OPERATIONAL.
PROGRAM GOING FORWARD IS WAS
BASED ON WHAT'S THE P. THE.
PROPRIOCEPTION TO MEET OUR NEEDS
GOING IN THE FUTURE OUT OF THESE
TEN HOW ATTACK BASIS TO ENSURE
WE CAN RESPOND.
ACROSS THE STATE FROM THOSE
BASES AND SO AGAIN THESE
HELICOPTERS WERE.
ABOUT SPECIFIED AND BUILT BASED
ON OUR NEEDS GOING FORWARD FROM
THOSE TEN TELETECH BASIS TO BE
SUCCESSFUL EXCUSE ME TO BE
SUCCESSFUL. NOT IN OUR INITIAL
TECHNICIAN BUT WHAT HAS BEEN THE
PRIMARY REASON FOR THE
ACCELERATION OF THE COST
EVERYTHING WE DO WANNA STARTS
OUT BE AND BRIDGES ARE.
PLANES COPTERS OR CARS.
IT NEVER COMES EVEN CLOSE TO
WHERE WE STARTED.
IN THIS CASE WHY FINANCE I IF I
THINK WHERE YOU MAY BE REFERRING
BACK TO IS THE TWO THOUSAND
SIXTEEN APPROPRIATIONS FOR
TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS HAVE AND
THE NATURE OF THAT APPROPRIATION
WASN'T REALLY BASED ON A.
BID RESULT OF ANY ONE PARTICULAR
HELICOPTER IT WAS REALLY THAT
WHOLE BUDGET ITEM WAS SET UP AS
CAN FOR PLACEHOLDER WE HAD JUST
HAD KNOWLEDGE. DIGEST TALK WITH
PROCUREMENT PROCESS SO THAT MORE
FORTY TWO BUT. WE JUST HAD AN
INVITATION FOR BIDS THAT HAD
BEEN CANCELED FOR VARIOUS
REASONS.
AND SO THERE WERE SOME RESULTS
FROM THAT BEARD THAT YOU WERE
AROUND I WANT TO SAY NOW CORRECT
ME IF I'M WRONG BUT. SOME WERE
PROBABLY NEVER TO SIXTEEN TO
EIGHTEEN MILLION DOLLARS WAS
GENERALLY WHERE THE HELICOPTERS
CAME IN AND BASS CROSS.
THE STRATEGY IN THE SIXTEEN
SEVENTEEN BUDGET THAT WAS IMPLY
EMPLOYED WAS.
TO GO IN WITH A LOWER
APPROPRIATION AMOUNT AND
REGIONAL LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWED
FOR THE AUGMENTATION FOR THE
ACTUAL.
A CURE MEANT AND THE REASONING
BEHIND THAT IS WE WANTED TO NOT
TELEGRAPHED THE BIDDING
COMMUNITY WHO WHAT WE THOUGHT
THE HELICOPTER SHOULD COST WE
WANTED TO LEAVE ON THEM TO TELL
US WHAT THEY THINK THE
HELICOPTER SHOULD COST.
WE WANTED TO PUT SOME MONEY IN
THE BUDGET SO THAT WE HAVE THE
ABILITY.
TO PROCURE WHEN THE TIME CAME
RIGHT THAT WE PUT IN LANGUAGE
THAT ALLOWED US TO MAKE
FLEXIBILITY TO GO FROM THAT A
PREPARATION LEVEL UP TO EVER THE
BIDS WERE
AGAIN TO PROTECT AGAINST
TELEGRAPHING TO THE COMMUNITY
WHERE. HE AND WE THOUGHT THEY
SHOULD LAND WE WANT TO BE MORE
COMPETITIVE.
WERE THERE MANY SOLICITATIONS
HERE.
FOR HOW MANY SOLICITATIONS
BOB MET BENDER DEPARTMENT OF
GENERAL SERVICES OUT WE HAD A TO
SOLICITATIONS
WE HAD THE ORIGINAL INVITATION
FOR BIT WHICH WAS.
TRADITIONAL LOW BID PROCESS
THAT WE CONDUCTED.
AT THE
DURING THE EVALUATION OF THE
BIDS IT BECAME EVIDENT TO US
THAT OF SOME OF THE.
BIDDERS HAD INTERPRETED.
REQUIREMENTS IN WAYS OTHER THAN
WE INTENDED.
FRANKLY THERE WERE COLORFUL
ARGUMENTS FOR THOSE
INTERPRETATIONS BUT THOSE
INTERPRETATIONS WARD IN OUR
INTEREST.
SO WE DECIDED RATHER THAN PUSH
FORWARD.
WITH TWO A CANCEL THE IFP.
WITHIN HAD AN EXTENDED PERIOD
OF BACK AND FORTH AND DIALOGUE
ABOUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO
STRUCTURE THE SOLICITATION.
AND WHAT REQUIREMENTS WERE GOING
TO USE
THAT WE THEN CAME OUT WITH A
REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WHICH IS A.
DIFFERENT DIFFERENT THE CURRENT
APPROACH THAT IS BASED ON A
COMBINATION OF PRICE AND POINTS
FOR TECHNICAL FACTORS.
WHAT WE HAD WITH THAT IS?
I INITIALLY WE RECEIVED TWO BIDS
NEITHER BID COMPLIED WITH THE.
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE RFP.
UNDER THE LAW INTERN RFP AT
LEAST THIS TYPE OF THERAPY.
WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
DECLARE THOSE BIDS TO BE DRAFT.
AND TO CONTINUE THE EXISTING
SOLICITATION AS AN ALTERNATIVE
TWO CANCELLING AND STARTING.
COMPLETELY FROM SCRATCH.
THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
WE DECLARED BOTH BITTER WE
DECLARED BOTH BIDS TO BE DRAFTS.
AND.
SET A NEW DEADLINE FOR FINAL
PROPOSALS
A WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS ON THE
SECOND TRY.
TWO OF WHICH WERE DEEMED
COMPLIANTAND WE ENDED UP WITH
THE.
THEIR METHODS BUT IT'S JUST
COMMON.
THESE SOLICITATIONS AND YOU
DON'T STOP GELMAN THE BAY AND SO
YOU. SOMETIMES YOU JUST CANCEL
NOT TO.
OF WELL WE'D OF I PERSONALLY
HAVE
DONE AND CANCELED QUITE A FEW
SOLICITATIONS.
DURING MY TIME IN THE
PROCUREMENT DIVISION WHERE I NO
LONGER WORK BUT WHERE I WORKED
FOR SOME TIME.
.
THE OTHER CANCELLATION WASN'T A
CANCELLATION HAPPENS
FRANKLY SOMETIMES YOU DON'T GET
BIDS OR YOU FIND THAT THE
RESULTS AREN'T WHAT YOU
EXPECTED.
AND SOMETIMES.
YOU DECIDE THAT THE BEST
APPROACH IS TO CANCEL.
IN THE RFP WE HAVE THE
ADDITIONAL OPTION OF DECLARING
DRAFTS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
IT HASN'T BEEN ANY CHANGE IN
THE.
CARRYING CAPACITY OF OF.
THESE COPS HOW MANY GALLONS.
TO DELIVER TO SITE.
WE WORKED THE. THAT FIVE HUNDRED
GALLONS.
SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY GALLONS WHAT
IS A STANDARD CARRY.
LET'S SEE I HAVE.
I HAVE THE I. PIECE BACK IN THE
ARE OF PEACE BACK.
IT LOOKS LIKE IN BOTH CASES WE
SET A MINIMUM.
FIVE HUNDRED GALLON WATER TANK
CAPACITY OF SO THAT DID NOT
CHANGE BETWEEN THE TWO
SOLICITATIONS.
BUT LET ME ASK.
ONE OF THE WHEN YOU TO PASS THIS
BILL NOT.
AS FAR AS THAT OF.
TANK AND THEN I GUESS I'M
TALKING ABOUT TO MAKE A LITTLE
MORE COMPLICATED MAYBE BUT THE
PATTER ANOTHER WORDS THE LARGER
THE TANK OR HOW YOU. DON'T THAT
HEIDI OPEN.
THAT I GUESS THAT SAME WOULD
HOLD
FOR THE BUCK.
BUT.
HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO THE
PATRICK?
AT THE DROP OF THE WATER.
THE HIT PRESSURE DOES THAT MAKE
ANY DIFFERENCE.
AS TO THE DROP BUT SIZE IT COMES
OUT I MEAN IF IT'S VERY FINE
DROPLETS THAT CAN KIND OF JUST.
IT GETS TO THE FIRE.
THAT WITH THE BUCKET MAYBE
SEIZURE COULD YOU DROP DOWN IN
BUT.
DOES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE
THOUGH.
THE PATTERN THAT THE SET OF THE
BUCKETS.
WE'LL RELEASE FOR THE THE FIXED
TANKS WILL REALLY REALLY
RELEASE.
CERTAINLY BIG BIG DIFFERENCE
DIPPING A BUCKET IN A TANK THAT
WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT.
PATENT WHEN IT.
IS THAT GETTING FROM FROM THE
BODY BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
THE PILOTS THAT BROWN
FIREFIGHTERS KNOW HOW THOSE WORK
WE WORK WITH BOTH OF THESE
TECHNIQUES THROUGHOUT.
CALIFORNIA EVERYDAY BECAUSE THE
OP BOTH OF THESE METHODS OR
TECHNIQUES OR.
.
PLATFORMS ARE OUT THERE ALREADY
AND SO IT JUST DEPENDS THERE'S
VALUE IN EACH ONE.
.
A BUCKET FROM A HELICOPTER WITH
A LONG LINE ALLOWS ACCESS IN
STEEPER TERRAIN AND YOU CAN DIP
FROM PONDS OR A RIVERS WERE
EXCEPT ABOUT. LESS SUCCESSFUL A
HELICOPTER WITH A BUCKET IS
REQUIRED TO GET DOWN CLOSER TO
THE WATER. BUT YOU CAN ALSO FILL
A TANK FROM A FIRE ENGINE OUT
WHERE THERE ISN'T A WATER SOURCE
WHERE YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH A
BUCKET AND SO AGAIN THERE'S
OPERATIONAL ADVANTAGE TO. TO
BOTH OF THOSE AND AGAIN WE
DEPLOY THEM AND USE THEM
INTERCHANGEABLY
ACROSS THE STATE AND SO AGAIN
THIS GIVES US SOME SIGNIFICANT
FLEXIBILITY. AND VALUE TO HAVE
OPERATIONAL OPTIONS THROUGHOUT
THE STATE.
I HEARD SHORT WHILE AGO THAT.
GAVE ME PAUSE IN AND WAS TALKING
ABOUT THE THE HEALER PAT.
AND. THE WEIGHT.
THAT WOULD COME UPON THEM AND
THEIR DETERIORATION. DON'T YOU
PRETTY WELL KNOW WITH THESE PER
COLOR COPIERS AT.
THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING YOU
KNOW WHAT.
THEIR WEIGHT CAPACITY WOULD BE
AND YOU KNOW THE DESIGN ON THIS.
HERE IN THE. IN THE.
HOUSING.
THE FOUNDATIONS IF YOU WILL OF
YOU HE LA PADS.
CAN'T YOU PRETTY WELL PREDICT
WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD UP
OR NOT.
IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS IT AND
QUESTION AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO
EXPERIMENT AND THEN MAYBE RE RE
RE DO.
SO FROM A TECHNICAL SERVICES A
STANDPOINT.
FROM.
FROM OUR STAFF BUT. THEY
BELIEVE THAT THESE HELIPADS ARE
GOING TO HOLD OUT NOW A SHORT OF
DOING CORE SAMPLES INTO THE
EXISTING HELIPADS.
THEY ARE NOT ONE HUNDRED
CONFIDENT OF THAT THEY WILL ALL
HOLD UP OVER TIME AND THEREFORE.
SPECIALLY PARA DOLLARS ARE
BEING REQUESTED WITHIN THIS
PROPOSAL IN THE EVENT THAT
OCCURS.
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT NONE OF THESE HELICOPTERS
ARE GOING TO BE SITTING ON THEIR
HELIPADS.
WITH WATER IN THEM IN THE TANKS
WELL THEY WILL LIFT OFF.
THEY WILL LIFT UP EMPTY FIND A
WATER SOURCE.
DEPLOYED A BUCKET OR DEPLOY
THEIR SNORKEL OFF OF THEIR TANK.
AND THEN BEGIN THEIR WATER
DROPPING EFFORTS BUT WHAT I MEAN
BY THAT IS WHILE THE GLUE Y. THE
MAX GROSS WEIGHT OF THE
HELICOPTER. THE IN THIS CASE.
IS SIGNIFICANT WHEN IT'S
SITTING ON THE HELIPAD DRY IT IS
IT IS OF ALL OUT OF A LESSER
WEIGHT NOW IT IS HEAVIER THAN
THE SUPER HE HELICOPTER BY.
.
BY.
.
DEFINITION AND IN THE SIZE.
BUT AGAIN.
FROM ATTACK SERVICES STANDPOINT
THEY BELIEVE THAT FOR THE MOST
PART OF THESE HELIPADS ARE GOING
TO HOLD.
WELL I WOULD. HIGHLY ENCOURAGE
SOMETHING.
AND THAT IS.
BORING. NOTE ON THE BLACKBOARD.
THE FIRST ONE THE FIRST
QUESTIONS I ASKED THE DEPARTMENT
OF WATER RESOURCES REGARDING.
OGLE SPILLWAYS DID YOU EVER OVER
THE DECADES DO ANY BORING
THE MEETING GOING DOWN THROUGH.
INTO THE FIRMAMENT.
AND THE ANSWER WAS. VERY LITTLE.
VERY LITTLE.
AND IN THAT YOU REALLY DON'T
KNOW WHAT THAT FOUNDATION IS I
MEAN WE GOT A LOT OF SOBRE CHOI
PROFILES AND THEY'VE BEEN
STUDIED WE HAVE BOOKS.
THAT.
BUT IT'S A PRUDENT NORMAL COURSE
IN SOMETHING WHEN YOU HAVE
TREMENDOUS WEIGHT.
BEARING DOWN ON WHATEVER THAT
FROM THE DEBTS.
IN SOME AREAS AND WHERE I'M
FAMILIAR WITH THAT DRIVE BY IT
MANY TIMES A WEEK GOV INVITE.
WE HAVE VOLCANIC SOILS.
WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING YOU'D
AUTOMATICALLY DUE TO.
FULLER DOWN AND SEE WHAT'S
UNDERNEATH THERE AS YOU THEN
EXPAND THE WEIGHT.
THAT WILL BE BORNE BY THAT IS
THAT.
.
PEOPLE PAT.
SHE LIKE THAT WOULD BE VERY
NECESSARY.
YEAH ABSOLUTELY I THINK THAT'S
WHAT CHIEFTYLER WAS IMPLYING
SENATORS THAT'S ABSOLUTELY PART
OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AND
UNDERSTANDING.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHICKEN
AND AN EGG WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE
A HUGE COMMITMENT AND GOT
CAPITAL OUTLAY IMPROVEMENTS OF
THIS IS ALL DEPENDING ON
APPROVAL. OF THIS BUDGET TO
ACQUIRE THE HELICOPTERS AND SO
AGAIN WE ARE PUTTING FORWARD A
PROPOSAL BASED ON WHAT WE
ANTICIPATE.
BASED ON THE HELICOPTERS BUT
AGAIN NOT PUTTING FORWARD A LOT
OF CAPITAL OUTLAY AT WORK UNTIL
ULTIMATELY THE BUDGET IS
APPROVED FOR THE.
AFTER THAT LAST ON FOOD PLEASE
FINANCE I COULD MAYBE IT'S HER
FISCAL STANDPOINT MEAN THAT THE
GENERAL APPROACH THAT WITH THE
HELL TECH PADS WAS TO SAY MEAN
THEY ARE RELATIVELY CONFIDENT
THAT THEY'LL HOLD UP. THE EIGHTY
FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS IT'S
INCLUDED THIS PROPOSAL WITHOUT
WAS A FAIRLY MODEST AMOUNT AND
IT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO FUND THREE
HELIPAD REPLACEMENTS IF IT WERE
NECESSARY SO. KIND OF IDEA WAS
JUST WELL LET'S PUT IN A LITTLE
BIT SO THAT IF WE FIND THROUGH
THE. CORE SAMPLES OR WHATEVER
ELSE THAT WE HAVE A FEW FAILURES
THAT WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO
ADDRESS THAT BUT UNTIL WE KNOW
WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN
INVESTING IN. A BIG COMMITMENT
INTO THAT MAKES SENSE BUT I WILL
REALLY ENCOURAGE THE CORE
SAMPLE.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY CRITICAL
CONSIDERATION.
BUT NOT LIKE TO SEE IS
REPLICATED IN OTHER AREAS WHAT
ORVILLE
THE OVER THE YEARS THAT MAYBE
LASTLY THEN FOR NOW.
IT SOUNDS LIKE. THE IRAQ
POSITION IS GOING TO BE STAGED
OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
IS IS THAT CORRECT THAT IS
CORRECT.
AND THAT'S BASED ON THE.
THE.
RICK. MANUFACTURED DO THAT DID
PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER OR
WHAT OTHER LIMITING FACTORS ARE
THE CONDITIONS OF THE. OF THE
SOLICITATION.
WHAT ARE THE KEY FACTORS?
SORT OF A.
MET UNDER DTS AGAIN.
CAL FIRE CAN ADDRESS KIND OF
ITS PLANS OF THE SOLICITATION WE
HAVE OF THIS IS A FIVE YEAR
AGREEMENT WITH A FEW OPTIONAL
EXTENSIONS ON THE END.
WE HAVE MADE NO UP FRONT
COMMITMENT AS TO THE NUMBER OF
HELICOPTERS WE WILL BUY OR WHEN
WE WILL BUY THEM.
SO LIMITING FACTORS WHICH
INCLUDE OBVIOUSLY THE
MANUFACTURERS CAPABILITY WOULD
ALSO INCLUDE.
.
STATE BUDGET AND TELL FIRES
ABILITY TO PAY FOR. THE
HELICOPTERS IN A GIVEN YEAR AND
I CAN.
.
TURN IT OVER TO CAL FIRE
TOGETHER ANYTHING TO THAT.
THANK YOU SENATOR. UP THERE ARE.
THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT
ARE INVOLVED IS IS WELL.
WORKING WITH OUR OPERATIONAL
AND MAINTENANCE INDIVIDUALS THE
FLIGHT HOURS
IN CONDITIONS OF THE CURRENT
AIRCRAFT WERE TAKEN INTO
CONSIDERATION ON HOW THESE
AIRCRAFT ARE GOING TO BE
DEPLOYED.
IS WELL AS THE.
VENDOR ELIVERY SCHEDULE.
FROM THE VENDORS IT'S IMPORTANT
TO KNOW AND ALSO TO BACK UP TO.
THE LAST QUESTION THAT YOU
POSED THAT.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING IT HELIPADS
AND CONSIDERATIONS OF WHERE
THESE AIRCRAFT ARE GOING TO BE
PLACED BASED ON SIZE WE ALSO
CONSIDER THE CAPITAL OUT WAY
PROCESS IT'S CURRENTLY.
ON GOING RIGHT NOW AND AS YOU
KNOW.
PASSING HIGHWAY NINETY NINE IN
THE VINE AREA IF THE IF YOU HAVE
SEEN IT RECENTLY THEY'RE GOING
TO A DEMOLITION PROCESS AND THE
HELL BASE IS BEING REPLACED AND
WOOD HAS A HELL OF A SPEED. IS
REPLACED BOTH A HANG ON THE
HELIPAD WILL BE APPROPRIATELY
SIZED FOR THE.
.
THIS NEXT GENERATION HELICOPTER.
IN ADDITION TO THAT.
THE OF THE BEAVER HELL TECH
BASE LOCATED IN.
IN LASSEN COUNTY.
THE HEMET RYAN. HELLO TAX BASE
LOCATED IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY AS
WELL AS.
THE.
THE PRONTO HELL TAKE MAYES
LOCATED IN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY
HERE CURRENT.
WHAT WE PROCESS AS WELL AND WILL
HAVE APPROPRIATELY SIZED?
HANGERS AND.
HELIPADS THEREFORE OF THIS NEXT
HELICOPTER AS WELL SOLELY SINGS
ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN
THE PLACE FROM THE DELIVERY
SCHEDULE OF WHERE THEY WILL GO
ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND ALSO THAT I THE AVAILABILITY
OF PARTS NATANS TRAINING.
THAT THAT'S ALSO CONSIDERATION
THE BID.
YES IT IS SIR.
IN WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE
EQUIPMENT COSTS WE HAVE TO
RECOGNIZE THAT A GOING FROM A
SUPER HUEY HELICOPTER TO A.
WHAT IS?
CURRENTLY A BLACKHAWK A SEVENTY
AYE HELICOPTER BRINGS AND
COMPONENT OF HAVING TO REPLACE
THE TOOLING BECAUSE THE.
THE PARTS THAT WE CURRENTLY
HAVE ON HAND AT IT OUR AVIATION
MANAGEMENT UNIT AS WELL AS THE
TOOLS THAT ARE ON HAND.
I DESIGNED TO MAINTAIN THE
SECRECY WE HELICOPTER HAVE TO BE
REPLACED AS WELL SO THOSE ARE
ALL TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND ONE OF YOUR ISSUES WITH THE
OLD WINDOWS PARTCH YOUR.
INITIAL AVAILABILITY NOW FOR
THOSE OLD ONES.
IF YOU ARE MAINTAINING THE
CURRENT FLEET YOU'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO FIND PARTS.
YES SIR OKAY THANK YOU MISTER.
SENATE MCGUIRE.
MAKING SECURE.
FOR SAW AYE AYE.
BUT THE NEED.
FOR A NEW FLEET OF HELICOPTERS
THAT WILL TAKE US INTO THE
DECADES TO COME. ON DE THE STORY
IS THERE AND THE EVIDENCE IS
THERE WITH THE SIZES GOV
WILDFIRES AND STATE.
I THINK THE ONE ITEM THAT I'M
STILL A BIT CONFUSED ABOUT IT
BECAUSE OUR FEES ARE SENATE ALL
THE TIME. AT ARBY'S ARE VERY
SPECIFIC IN REGARDS THE SPECS
THAT BOND. THAT WHATEVER THE
GOVERNMENT AGENCY MAYBE I'M
STILL.
IF. WE KNEW WHAT WE WANTED AS
FAR AS
SPECS
A HELICOPTER WHY DIDN'T WE DO
SAVE IN THE RP WHY WERE WE MORE
GENERAL.
OF AND THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION
IT REALLY OES TO THE HEART OF
OF.
THE THE THE THE ISSUES THAT WE
DEAL WITH AS A PROCUREMENT
AGENCY.
PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND.
CHIEF PIMLOTT TALKED ABOUT SORT
OF THE.
.
THE THE WAY THE CALIFORNIA WENT
ABOUT DEVELOPING ITS PERFORMANCE
REQUIREMENTS ASSESSING ITS
MISSION TO FOR DETERMINING WHAT
KIND OF PERFORMANCE IT NEEDED TO
ACHIEVE THAT MISSION.
AT THE SAME TIME A WE TGS HAVE A
MANDATE TO ENSURE THAT.
COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT IS
TRULY COMPETITIVE THAT THAT
THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO COMPANIES
OUT THERE THAT CAN FULFILL THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE RFP. INTO IT
SO THAT WE HAVE SO THAT WE HAVE
TRUE COMPETITION I MEAN WE HAVE
A MECHANISM.
TO.
.
ACQUIRE. GOODS ON A NON
COMPETITIVE BASIS OF A TRULY IS
THE ONLY GOOD THAT MEETS THE
NEEDS OF THE STATE.
BUT.
WE.
BUT WHEN WE DO.
COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION.
WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE GETTING ALL THE
PERFORMANCE THAT WE NEED S.
WHILE AT THE SAME TIME. BEING
GENERAL ENOUGH THAT WE'RE NOT
INADVERTENTLY EXCLUDING.
.
A COMPANY THAT COULD MEET OUR
REQUIREMENTS.
SO. WE COULD HAVE I I'M SURE
BEEN MORE PRESCRIPTIVE AS WHAT
WE WANTED TO DO.
AS TO AS TO WHAT WE WANTED THE
HELICOPTER TO DO I KNOW THAT
THERE WAS A LOT OF ANALYSIS.
ON SEVERAL OF THE KEY
REQUIREMENTS WHERE WE ENDED UP
CALIBRATING THE REQUIREMENT
TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD HAVE
COMPETITION WHILE ALSO ENSURING
THE CALIFORNIA CAN GET WHAT THEY
NEEDED. SO IT WAS A DELICATE
BALANCE IN THAT REGARD.
AND YOU SEE THAT WE NEED TO BE
GENERAL ENOUGH BUT I EIGHT IN
I'M.
I UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT
HINDSIGHT'S ALWAYS TWENTY TWENTY
BUT I THINK THAT WE TO FOUR
BUILDING.
IF IT DID YES IS CAN BE PUT IN
A NEW BUILDING THERE'S GOING TO
BE VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT
YOU'RE GOING TO WANT IN NEED.
SAME THING WITH VEHICLES AND OR
I WANNA COMES AIRCRAFT
I.
I'M STE.
WE. WE WE DID A PROCESS AND
THEN.
WE WERE SO GENERAL IT GOT TIED
UP.
IN NOW IN THIS IS THE CANDIDATE
BECAME QUITE MESSY.
SO I AND THAT'S OUR INDUSTRY
NEED FOR MY TIME AND I KNOW ITS.
.
MUCH LOWER LEVEL WHEN I WAS ON
COUNTY BOARD FOR EXAMPLE OR WHEN
I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL IN THEIR
SPECIFIC ITEMS WE WANTED WE
LISTED IT WAS IN THE ARE.
SOMETIMES RECEIVED TWELVE
SOMETIMES RECEIVED TWO.
BUT. THAT'S WHY I'M JUST
TRYING TO GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF WHY IT WAS SO
GENERAL IF WE KNEW THAT THERE
HAD TO BE IF THERE ARE MANDATE
AND.
REGARDS THE SPECS OR NEEDED TO
FOR EXAMPLE NIGHT FLYING WHICH
IS JUST ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL
THESE DAYS.
BOB A DISEASE THAT ONE EXAMPLE
BY WHAT WE LISTED OR EXXON Y. NZ
WE KEEP GOING ONLINE AND THAT'S.
BECAUSE WE DO THAT FOR OTHER ARE
THESE.
YES AND I SHOULD SAY.
.
FOR THIS IN THIS RFP.
.
WE HAD TO WE HAD TWO BIDS THAT
MATT THAT MET THE MINIMAL
REQUIREMENTS.
CALL THAT ALL THIS WAS GOING
OVER IT EXTRAORDINARY LIFE BY
THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE AND
THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE
AGREED WITH. AGREED WITH US THAT
WE HAD TWO. KIDS THAT MET THE
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS SUBMIT SO
AS FAR AS MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
THAT WAS THE PART THAT GOT.
THAT THE TO GOD MESSY IF YOU
WANT TO SAY THAT. OF.
THE THERE WERE INTERPRETIVE
ISSUES ABOUT.
COUPLE OF AND BY THE WAY YOU
KNOW THERE WERE ARGUMENTS MADE
FRANKLY THE YOU KNOW OUR
PROPOSED A WORD HE WAS NOT
COMPLIANT AND THOSE WERE
REJECTED BY THE ADMINISTRATIVE
LAW JUDGE.
THE.
FOLLOW WHAT ENDED UP TURNING IN
IN THE PROTEST WAS THE
INTERPRETATION OF A COUPLE OF
THE.
SCORED ITEMS WHERE THE DEBATE
WAS WHETHER THE WHETHER THE
COMPANY HAD DEMONSTRATED.
.
HEAD TO HEAD HAD SHOWN THAT IT
HAD MET THROUGH MET THE
REQUIREMENT TO GET THE POINTS
THESE REFER DESIRABLE ITEMS OVER
DESIRABLE CHARACTERISTICS OVER
AND ABOVE OUR MINIMUM
REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT.
AND.
SO.
TO LET MY LAST QUESTION IS IS IT
IS IN THERE'S CONSULTATION.
PRIOR TO GOING NOW WITH OUR P.
ABOUT WHAT DOES AND AND SHOULD
BE.
MIKE YES YA THAT WAS A VERY
EXTENSIVE PROCESS THAT INVOLVED
ARE OUR BUYER OUR ENGINEER AND
THE.
SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE AVIATION
MANAGEMENT TEAM HELLFIRE.
WHO ALSO SERVED AS THE
EVALUATION TEAM?
OKAY BUT IT STILL CAME OUT.
.
YEAH AND I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS
IN THE HOOD OVERLY GENERAL
BECAUSE WHAT WHAT IT SEEMS I AM
JUST BEEN CANDID RIGHT. LOOK
THERE WITH THEIR VERY SPECIFIC
ITEMS THAT WILL PUT IT THIS
STATE IS GOING TO NEED JUST
BECAUSE OF OUR UNIQUE
CIRCUMSTANCES BOTH OF TERRAIN
AND THE THE LEVEL FIRE THAT WE
HAVE.
AND THE SIZES GO THAT WE
CONTINUE THAT IT CAN INCREASE
RIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ENDED UP.
MESSY.
TO WHERE IT SEEMED LIKE IT IT
AND AGAIN MAYBE TYNESIDE BUT IT
WAS VERY CLEAR WHAT THOSE. THOSE
MANDATED MINIMUMS FOR.
YEAH. AGAIN THE MANNER THE
MANDATED MINIMUMS.
WERE NOT.
THE MANDATED MINIMUMS ENDED UP
NOT BEING THE MAIN MAIN SOURCE
OF DISPUTE.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CASES
WHERE WE HAD GET.
BEEN FAIRLY GENEROUS AND
OFFERING POINTS FOR PARTICULAR
CHARACTERISTICS
I'LL GIVE ONE EXAMPLE.
BAY AND IN THE BITTER
ESSENTIALLY RESPONDED TO THIS IN
A WAY WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE.
FOR EXAMPLE WE GRANTED NINETY
POINTS
TO HAVE ALL TRAINING IN THE
UNITED STATES.
WE ASSUME TO BUT DID NOT SAY IN
BLACK LETTERS THAT THAT TRAINING
WOULD INVOLVE SIMULATOR.
ONE OF OUR BETTERS.
NOT THE ONE THAT WAS SELECTED.
IN ITALY.
YEAH HAS A SIMULATOR IN ITALY
BUT CHOSE TO OFFER US.
ALL TRAINING IN THE AIRCRAFT.
THAT WAS.
NOW WE WANTED THERE IS A LOT OF
DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER THE
FEDERAL AVIATION REGULATIONS
WOULD REQUIRE SIMULATOR TRAINING
OR NOT.
WE THOUGHT THAT IT DID.
THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE
DISAGREED AND SO WE GOT INTO A
FRANKLY.
AN ISSUE OF REGULATORY
INTERPRETATION THE BECAME THE
DIFFERENCE AND WHETHER THEY DID
OR DID NOT GET THOSE POINTS.
GOD THE IMAGE CHAIRMAN LASSEN
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND IF WE
SHOULD LOOK AT THAT
CLARIFICATIONS.
CHIEF ON ON THIS YOU KNOW AGAIN
FOR MYSELF.
.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS
DESPERATELY NEEDED RIGHT AYE AS
WE ADVANCE HERE IN THE YEARS TO
COME. UP AND YOU BELIEVE BOB
FINAL NUMBERS FINAL NUMBERS THAT
ARE BEING RECOMMENDED THE AS FAR
AS.
IN NUMBERS OF HELICOPTERS BE
ADVANCE.
YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT HAVE
WITH. THE RECENT STUDY THAT JUST
CAME OUT THAT SAID THAT CLIMATE
CHANGE IS GOING TO EXASPERATED
BOTH FLOODS FIRES EXEDRA. AND
I'M JUST WANTING TO GET YOUR
TAKE ON THAT IN INSISTING HIT
THE STATE'S CITY.
TOUR NOT BACK HERE I THINK IT'S
THE CHAIRED SAID THIS IS
RECOMMENDED BACK IN. WITH HIS
BEEN DISCUSSED FOR HOW MANY
YEARS.
TWO THOUSAND FIVE. WHEN WHEN WE
FIRST BEGAN THE STUDY AND AND
AND INCOME COMMISSION OF THIRD
PARTY.
EVALUATOR BACK IN TWO THOUSAND
FIVE. AND ACTUALLY DID IT TWICE
TO MAKE SURE WE WERE GETTING THE
RIGHT INFORMATION.
.
YES WE WERE ALREADY BEGINNING TO
RECOGNIZE YOU KNOW WHERE DOES
THE STATE NEED TO BE WHEN WE GO
FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
CAME. FROM THAT VENDOR.
AND THIS WAS PRIOR TO THE
DROUGHT THAT WE'VE JUST BEEN
THROUGH BUT WE'RE RECOMMENDING
GOING FORWARD WITH A PLATFORM
IT'S BEEN A NEED TO BE MORE
ROBUST THAN WHAT WE ARE
CURRENTLY USING UNDER THE U. H.
Y. AND.
THE PLATFORM ULTIMATELY WHERE
WE'RE GOING WITH THIS A AWARD IS
GOING TO CLEARLY MEET.
THE NEEDS OF CALIFORNIA GOING
INTO THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO
NEED EVERY OUNCE SO OF THE
CAPABILITIES THIS HELICOPTER
HAS.
TO BE ABLE TO COMBAT WHAT WE'RE
DOING ABSOLUTELY BEEN VERY
COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT GOING
FORWARD WITH A PLATFORM THAT'S
BEEN IDENTIFIED. I THINK YOU
CHIEF.
SENATE NIELSEN.
ONE MORE.
WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN
POINTS BETWEEN THAT THE TOP TWO
THIRDS IT SIGNIFICANT?
A BETWEEN.
BETWEEN THE TOP TWO OF AFTER THE
ADJUSTMENTS.
MADE BY THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW
JUDGE I BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE
WAS TWO POINTS.
IS THAT NORMAL THAT THEY'RE THAT
CLOSE.
IT WAS IT WAS. I WOULD SAY THAT
THERE'S THEY'RE USUALLY NOT THAT
CLOSE.
THAT SOUNDS UNUSUAL TO ME.
NOW THIS IS KIND OF. OFF THE
WALL QUESTION MAY BE.
BUT ARE THERE ANY OCCASIONS WHEN
YOU EVER WOULD DO A.
IF YOU WOULD DAY EIGHTY OF A
BLENDED LETTING.
IN OTHER WORDS WELL WE'RE GOING
TO GET TO FROM THIS TO FROM
THAT.
IS THAT EVER SOMETHING THAT YOU
DO COMPETITIVELY TO LET HIM IN
THE FIELD WE TESTED.
SO.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE IT.
WE.
RATHER THEY'RE THERE WOULD BE A
LEGAL WAY TO DO THAT IF I MEAN
IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT FROM THE
OUTSET.
I MEAN IF WE WANTED TO SAY
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE TWO AWARDS
WERE GOING TO BY TWO DIFFERENT
HELICOPTERS AND WE'RE GOING TO
TEST THEM.
THERE'S A LEGAL WAY TO DO THAT
WITHIN THE RFP.
.
IF YOU KNOW.
THE THE.
IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE TO DO
THAT AFTER AN RFP THAT WAS THAT
WAS WRITTEN FOR ONE AWARD.
BUT IF WE HAD THOUGHT THAT THAT
WAS.
IF CAL FIRE IT SAID WE WANT TO
TOUCH TWO HELICOPTERS.
SO WE WANTED WE COULD HAVE
SLIPPED DTS COULD HAVE
STRUCTURED A SOLICITATION.
TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING
THAT.
WOULDN'T IN THIS CASE BUT IT
WOULD SEEM LIKE A CONCEPTUALLY
THERE MAY BE MERIT IN THAT
CONSIDERATION GOING FORWARD AND
YOU DUBBED ASSIGNED. THAT.
THAT THAT'S POSSIBLE THAT CAN.
SENATE. OR STERN.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN.
.
LOT OF ISSUES HAVE ALREADY BEEN
SORT OF FLESHED OUTSIDE FROM TO
FOCUS MY QUESTIONS ON.
IT THE NET COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS
HERE AND IS GETTING A BETTER
SENSE I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S
THROUGH THE. ACTUAL SCORING
CRITERIA AND HOW.
YOU WERE DOING THAT ANALYSIS
VERSUS SOMETHING THAT OWN A
TEMPORAL SCALE IS SORT OF A
LONGER TERM I MEAN.
WAS ANY ANALYSIS DONE BY EITHER
DE GEUS OR CAL FIRES ARE
THINKING ABOUT USEFUL LIFE'S.
OF THESE ASSETS AND THEN
POTENTIAL FIRE SUPPRESSION
BENEFITS INSERTED DOING THAT
COMPARISON I MEAN IS THERE SOME
WAY TO QUANTIFY PROTECT MIDRANGE
MILLION DOLLARS YOU TODAY.
HOW MUCH COULD THIS NEW FLEET
ACTUALLY SAVED THE STATE?
IN IN FIRE SUPPRESSION RELATED
BENEFITS I JUST WANT TO GET A
SENSE OF YOU GUYS.
TRY TO GET YOUR HEADS AROUND
THAT MATH.
OF OR OR OR DID YOU JUST START
OFF HERE ALL ALL ALL START OUT
AND THEN LET WHAT. HELLFIRE AT
ON I THINK GO WE THE WAY WE
STRUCTURED THE RFP WE
IDENTIFIED.
HANDFUL OF DESIRABLE ITEMS
INSIDE POINTS TO THOSE ITEMS.
ALL OF THOSE ITEMS REALLY WERE
DESIRABLE.
AND SO YOU KNOW IN THAT SENSE
IT GAVE US A MODEL WHERE WE HAD.
IMPLICITLY DECIDED WHAT WHAT
WHAT WAS PARTICULARLY BENEFICIAL
TO US
AND ASSIGN POINTS TO IT.
WE DID NOT I WOULD SAY.
GO TO.
AN ELABORATE PRODUCTIVITY BASED
MODEL. WHERE WE WOULD YOU KNOW?
TO.
SOME SORT OF. SIMULATION OR
CALCULATION AS TO HOW MUCH WATER
COULD.
COULD THE HELICOPTER DROPPED
AND SAY.
DE RISK WERE A WORK SHIFT
THAT WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. THAT.
THE FRANKLY MIGHT. MIGHT BE A
GOOD IDEA BUT THAT WE DIDN'T DO
FOR PURPOSES OF OUR APPEAL AWARD
IN THIS CASE.
.
WHICH. I THINK A IF YOU DO THAT.
AND TELL PARKING PROBABLY SPEAK
TO THE SCHOOL MORE.
GET IT TENDS TO US SUPPORT THE
OUTCOME THAT WE ACTUALLY GOT IN
THE RFP.
AND SPEAKING FROM AN OPERATIONAL
PERSPECTIVE YOU KNOW JUST ONE
EXAMPLE IS.
THE ABILITY DELIVER WATER ALL
OF THESE HELICOPTERS ARE
AFFECTED BECAUSE IN OUR INITIAL
ATTACK WHAT WE WANT TO GET WATER
DELIVERED TO THE FIRE IN THE
QUICKEST AMOUNT OF TIME POSSIBLE
TO KEEP THAT FIRE AS SMALL AS
POSSIBLE SO. TAKING A FIVE MILE
RADIUS FROM TELETECH BASE WHERE
IT TAKES OFF FROM. OVER THE
COURSE OF AN HOUR.
THAT DS IS SEVENTY AYE BLACK
* CAN DELIVER FIVE THOUSAND
GALLONS OF WATER TO THAT FIRE.
COMPARED TO TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED
GALLONS LIAM BY THE OTHER OTHER
HELICOPTER THAT IS A HUGE COST
BENEFIT VALUE NOT JUST FROM THE
ABILITY TO GET MORE WATER. THERE
BUT THAT MEANS WE CAN REDUCE THE
AMOUNT OF A FLIGHT TIME THAT WE
CAN PUT THAT FIRE OUT IN A MUCH
BIGGER AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THE
WATER DELIVERED.
SUPPORT THE FIREFIGHTERS ON THE
GROUND.
THAT'S KEY AND FOR US AND PUT
THE SAFETY FACTOR IN HERE.
HELICOPTERS WERE KEY.
IN SUPPORTING OUR FIREFIGHTERS
ON THE GROUND.
YOU KNOW THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE
FIRES AND AND FIREFIGHTERS
DEPEND ON THE ABILITY TO GET
A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER
DELIVERED TO THEM FROM BOTH THE
GROUND IN THE AIR AND SO. HAVING
THAT VOLUME THAT QUICKLY
DELIVERED SKI AND I RECOGNIZE
THAT SOME OF THIS ANNOUNCES
MAYBE A BIT SPECULATIVE BECAUSE
YOU DON'T EXACTLY KNOW. HOW
PRODUCTIVE EVERY MISSIONS GOING
TO BE YOU DON'T YOU KNOW YOU MAY
MISS IT WINGS CAN MISBEHAVE WITH
WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL THOMAS ALL
OVER THERE A LOT OF RETARDANT
MISSION? YOU KNOW JUST
CONDITIONS ARE COMPLICATED BUT.
IS THERE SOME WAY FOR US TO
EXTRAPOLATE. THAT'S ON A ONE
FLIGHT BASIS THE COMPARISON.
CAN WE THEN ZOOM OUT AND LOOK AT
SOARED THE FULL UTILIZATION OF
THIS FLEET. OVER ITS USEFUL LIFE
AND CERTAIN TRY TO START OF.
PROJECT A RANGE OF I. I DON'T
EVEN THIS I MEAN IN THE CONTEXT
OF COMPARING BIDS
BUT MORE JUST IN THE OVERALL.
ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE PROGRAM
POTENTIALLY IN TERMS OF FIRE
SUPPRESSION BENEFITS MEANS
THERE'S SOME WAY TO GET AN ORDER
OF MAGNITUDE THERE. AND AND THAT
MAY BE A QUESTION ALSO FOR LA GO
TO LOOK AT BUT.
I THINK IT WOULD HELP.
.
JUST GIVE US A SENSE OF SCALE I
MEAN WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
DAMAGE.
IF SEE IN THE.
IT IN THIS ERA WE DIDN'T HAVE
THIS THIS FULLY. RIGHT LIKE WHAT
WHAT WHAT MIGHT WE NOT ACHIEVE
WHAT'S THAT SORTED DEL TO LOOK
LIKE.
I I I RECOGNIZE. IT'S THERE IS
SOME SPECULATION HERE BUT
SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS I MEAN I
I HEAR THAT YOU THINK OF AS A
SEMI ELIA I MEAN CAN YOU.
IS YOUR WHAT IS THERE A WAY TO
ACTUALLY DO A MEANINGFUL
ANALYSIS THERE.
AND THE DEPARTMENT IMPROVISES
SOME INFORMATION I THINK MORE
SPECIFICALLY RELATED OF THE
CURRENTLY IN TERMS OF OF
MAINTENANCE AND AND OPERATIONS
COST VERSES THIS ONE SO. MAYBE
NOT SO MUCH IN THE TOTAL COSTS
AND BENEFITS OF.
THE NEW FLEET BUT IN TERMS OF
REPLACING WHAT WE CURRENTLY
HAVE.
BUT IT DOES SOMETHING SO THEY
CAN TRY TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF
OR BY THE DEPARTMENT SEE IF WE
CAN GET YOU SOME KIND OF A.
AND I I JUST I THINK IT'S A IT'S
A USEFUL WAY TO TALK TO THE
TAXPAYER TO CALIFORNIA ABOUT IT
BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SEE A
BIG TAB. AND BUT. THE BENEFITS
COULD BE ENORMOUS IS SOME WAY TO
SORT OF QUANTIFY THAT AS WE MOVE
FOR I KNOW WE'RE HOLDING IS OPEN
BUT. I THINGS MOVE FOR THAT THAT
MIGHT ACTUALLY BE HELPFUL. AND I
THINK IT WOULD BE ALMOST NEED A.
GRADUATE STUDENT TO DO THAT THE
CONSTRUCTION OF A FIRE AND TO
SAY THIS IS WHAT THIS IS HOW IT
HOW IT. HOWEVER WE RESPONDED TO
IT THESE WERE THE CONDITIONS AND
IF WE HAD GOTTEN THIS MUCH MORE
WATER THERE AT THIS PART THIS
TIME THAT MIGHT IF NOT HAPPEN OR
THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
IT WOULD BE.
ONE OF ANYBODY DOES THAT BULLETS
OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND
SEE IF SOMEBODY'S HERE THAT TO
OUR.
OPEN OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS
IS ITEM NUMBER.
IT'S THE THREE ON THE HELICOPTER
ACQUISITION.
SEE NOBODY WILL WILL CLOSE IT
DOWN.
.
IT'S BEEN VERY GOOD THE STAFF
RECOMMENDATION IS TO HOLD IT
OPEN I'M.
SATISFIED WITH PRESENTATION THAT
PROBLEM HAS BEEN MADE TODAY AND
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF
SOMEONE WANTS MAKE MOTION TO
APPROVE IS BUDGETED.
OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE
IS BUDGETED PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
WIECKOWSKI BY NIELSEN I'VE.
MCGUIRE.
STERN.
RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS.
WILL NOW CALL THE PEOPLE THAT.
THE. OPEN THE VOTES
THIS IS BACK TO THE FIRST MOTION
DISS VOTE ONLY ON.- ITEMS THREE
FOUR NINE ELEVEN
TWELVE FORTY THREE FOURTEEN
THROUGH TWENTY FIVE TWENTY SEVEN
THROUGH THIRTY TO THIRTY NINE
THROUGH FORTY NINE FIFTY ONE.
FIFTY FOUR AND FIFTY FIVE PLEASE
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
NIELSEN.
OKAY WILL CLOSE A ROLE THAT'S
FOUR ZERO THAT NEXT MOTIONFLOW
OPEN ROLE ON ITEMS ONE AND TWO
FIVE THROUGH EIGHT.
TEN THIRTEEN TWENTY SIX THIRTY
THREE BINGO DEL FIFTY FIFTY TWO
AND FIFTY THREE PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS.
NIELSEN.
OKAY.
WE MISS A VOTE ON.
OF A FAMOUS ITEM NUMBER FIVE
FIFTY SIX
THIS IS. THE GUY ACOSTA LANDS
HAZARD REMOVAL PROGRAM PLEASE
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS NIELSEN.
STERN. I THAT MATTERS PROVED BY
THREE TO ONE ON THE OIL AND. GAS
PLUG AB ABANDONMENT ITEM NUMBER
FIFTY SEVEN PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS NIELSEN.
OKAY THAT AS PROOF FOUR ZERO AND
FINALLY ITEM NUMBER SIXTY ONE.
THIS IS THE REVENUE GEERATION
AND I PROGRAM WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND.
RECREATION PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS WIECKOWSKI.
I.
THAT MATTERS APPROVAL. AND THAT
CONCLUDES OUR COUNTER ALL THE
OTHERS ON THE VOTE ONLY A WERE
PROVED WE ARE ADJOURNED