TODAY.
AND.
WE'RE IN A SMALLER ROOM TODAY
SO I KNOW. PEOPLE WANT TO
SUPPORT THE TESTIMONY OF OTHERS.
BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HEAR
EVERYONE SO.
.
IF YOU WANT TO SHOW SUPPORT TO
SPEAKER YOU CAN.
.
DO THE.
NEAR CONSIGNED LANGUAGE APPLIES.
AND.
DON'T PLEASE DON'T CLAP WORKS
CLEAN OUT LOUD. PRESHEAF THAT.
ALRIGHT AND THEN.
WE'VE GOT LET'S SEE I DON'T
THINK THERE'S ANYTHING DIFFERENT
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
.
WE SEE WHAT MEMBERS WE HAVE BEEN
IN ROOM MISTER NEWMAN ALRIGHT WE
WILL START WITH YOU MISTER
NEWMAN IN THAT IT'S ITEM
SEVENTEEN SP TWELVE FORTY TWO.
STEPS PORTFOLIO ESTABLISH A
QUORUM FIRST POLITICIANS NOT
FEWER I'M WARY.
OKAY NO PROBLEM WE HAVE TO CALL
RULE ANYWAY.
IT. BROKAW SKINNER.
I'M HERE IN OUR HERE ANDERSON
HERE ANDERSON HERE BRADFORD.
BRADFORD HERE JACKSON MITCHELL
STONE. DOWN HERE WIENER.
RIGHT SO AND MR ANDERSON
INSTRUMENT BRADFORD DO YOU WANT
TO START.
I WOULD BET YOU MISTER ANDERSON.
I DON'T NOW IS ALSO PASSED IN
FAR YOU KNOW I KNOW WELL HECK I
COULD START.
IF YOU LIKE YOU ARE.
NINETEEN. OKAY.
I THINK I COULD START WITH WHAT.
NO.
NO NOT ON ANY NINETY BEEN ON.
HOLD ON A MINUTE.
SO I ONLY HAVE THAT SINGLE BILL.
ALRIGHT YOU'RE RIGHT I GOTTA
WAIT POLICIES OF THAT I'D WORN
ONE.
MY GOODNESS THIS IS AWFULLY.
TRYING TO STIR UP MISTER STONE.
HOW ABOUT YOU?
GREAT WONDERFUL. SORRY I DID
NOTICE THAT RIGHT OR YOU WOULD
OF BEEN NEXT ANYWAY NOT ITEM
NINE SB ELEVEN FORTY SIX.
WELL GOOD MORNING. MADAM CHAIR.
MEMBERS.
I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY
THIS WOULD PRODUCE SB ELEVEN
FORTY SIX WHICH ADDRESSES THE
PROTECTION OF VICTIMS FROM THE
AQUARIUS HARASSMENT OF
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS.
THE SILENT VICTIMS SUFFER
EMOTIONAL TRAUMA AND LIVE IN
CONSTANT FEAR SOMETHING WE ALL
TAKE FOR GRANTED. THE MAIL.
THE VICTIMS FILED RESTRAINING
ORDERS ARE PROTECTIVE ORDERS TO
THE COURTS AGAINST THE
INCARCERATED EXPECTING
PROTECTION.
THIS BILL IS INSPIRED FROM
RECENT CASE FOR AS AN INDIVIDUAL
WAS IN CUSTODY ON A CASE FOR
STALKING. DESPITE A PROTECTIVE
ORDER THIS INDIVIDUAL SENT
MULTIPLE LETTERS CARDS AND NOTES
TO THE VICTIM WHILE IN CUSTODY.
THE DAYS OFFICE WAS FORCED TO
JUST NOTE THE ACTION.
SO DESPITE THE PROTECTIVE ORDER
THESE FORMS OF COMMUNICATION
COULD NOT BE INTERCEPTED AND THE
DA'S OFFICE COULD DATSIK
PUNISHMENT. FOR BREAKING THE
PROTECTIVE ORDER. THE VICTIM WAS
FORCED TO CONSTANTLY UNDERGO THE
EMOTIONAL TRAUMA OF SEEING THOSE
COMMUNICATIONS EACH TIME THEY
CHECKED THEIR MAIL.
A PROTECTIVE ORDER UNDER
EXISTING LAW PROHIBITS THE
CONTACT OF AN INDIVIDUAL VIA
MAIL VERBAL NONVERBAL. OR
ELECTRONIC MEANS.
THE PENALTY FOR BREAKING A
PROTECTIVE ORDER IS A THOUSAND
DOLLAR FINE LEADING UP TO ONE
YEAR IN COUNTY JAIL.
UNDER CURRENT LAW THE PENALTY
FOR BREAKING A PROTECTIVE ORDER
A RESTRAINING ORDER HAS LITTLE.
TO NO EFFECT ON INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUAL AS SEEN IN THIS
EXAMPLE.
S. B. ELEVEN FORTY SIX SEEKS TO
GIVE HIS VICTIMS THAT LAYER
PROTECTION FROM INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS BYLINE THE.
PRISON AUTHORITIES TO INSPECT ON
GOING THE WHOLE FOR THE PURPOSE
OF ENFORCING A RESTRAINING ORDER
PROTECTIVE ORDER AGAINST AN
ENEMY.
UNDER CURRENT LAW OFTEN AND MEET
SENDS A LETTER TO AN INDIVIDUAL
WHO HAS A RESTRAINING ORDER
AGAINST THEM. THE VICTIM COULD
DO THE FOLLOWING.
THE VICTIM TO REPORT THE ACTION
HOPE THAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY
CAN FOUNDER CHARGES AGAINST THE
ENEMY WHICH WE ARE SAYING IS NOT
HAPPENING.
THE VICTIM COULD SOME SUBMIT A
WRITTEN COMPLAINT TO CDC ARE.
ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIALS WHO CAN
CONSIDER THE SITUATION IF
APPROVED.
NAY STOP FUTURE MALE.
ALL THIS TIME THE VICTIM IS
SUFFERING FROM EMOTIONAL TRAUMA
OF RECEIVING MAIL FROM THE
INMATE SUMMARIZE.
COLLEAGUES SB ELEVEN FORTY SIX
SIMPLY GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO
ENFORCE PROTECTIVE ORDERS AND
RESTRAINING ORDERS IN BOTH JAILS
AND PRISONS WHEN THE MAIL OF
EACH AND ME. IS ALREADY SEARCH
BEFORE BEING SENT OUT.
LET'S GIVE A LEVEL OF PROTECTION
TO THESE VICTIMS WHO HAVE
ALREADY SUFFERED ENOUGH AND
EXPECT US THE STATE TO HELP
THEM.
ENFORCER PROTECTION.
FOR ALL THOSE REASONS I'VE
HEARD.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE.
AND US SENATOR STERN AND I
UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WILL BE
TAKING AND AMENDMENTS I WILL AS
AUTHOR MEMBERS. OKAY THANK YOU.
AND RICHARD OUT OF THE
COMMITTEE.
YOU'RE WELCOME AND ONCE WE GET
TO THE POINT OF MOTION THAT
WOULD BE A.
AT. MOVE AS AMENDED.
ALRIGHT SO WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
ONE.
WE ARE THE ROLL CALL.
MORNING MATCHA RANGE FROM WITH
THE RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION ALL THOSE BILL
DOESN'T DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR
MEMBERS AND WE THINK IT'S GOOD
POLICY AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE
CAN THAT ACCOUNT WILL BE
INCLUDED AT SOME POINT ALONG THE
WAY. THANK YOU GREAT ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
ALRIGHT SO. ASKED SENATOR
ANDERSON.
ARE WE HAVE A MOTION SENATOR
ANDERSON YOU MAY I DON'T THINK
THAT YOU CALDERON.
THOUGH SENATOR MY MIKE WAS ON
AND LIKE TO MOVE.
BUT ALL EXCEPT THAT SENATOR
ANDERSON'S MOTION AS AMENDED. OR
WITH THE AMOUNT OF SENATORS BUT
FOR TO.
.
DIRECTLY TO THE FLOOR.
OKAY WILL DO A ROLL CALL.
SKINNER AYE SKINNER AYE ANDERSON
AYE AYE ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON AYE JACKSON
AYE MITCHELL. DOWN.
I DON'T I'VE WIENER.
YOU BET OBSERVE UNDER WILL
MEMBERS THINK ALRIGHT WE WILL
HOLD THAT RULE OPEN NOW WE WILL
GO TO ITEM ONE SENATOR BATES.
S. B. NINE ZERO TWO.
RIGHT.
WHEN DID YOU COSTS CHAIRMAN
SKINNER FROM NUMBER ONE. CAN YOU
GUYS SO HARD THIS MORNING HERE
YEAH SIR KAY NUMBER ONE SB NINE
ZERO TWO THAT I BACKGROUND
CHECKS GOT. EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU I MANAGED CHAIR AND
MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO START BY
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS ARE AS AMENDED S. B.
NINE OH TWO REQUIRES THE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CARE
SERVICES TO CONDUCT BACKGROUND
CHECKS. BEFORE AN INDIVIDUAL CAN
BE ISSUED A LICENSE TO OWN
OPERATE REGION RESIDENTIAL
TREATMENT FACILITY. ARE
RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES
PROVIDE A CRITICAL OPPORTUNITY
FOR ADULTS RECOVERING FROM DRUG
OR ALCOHOL ADDICTION.
HOWEVER IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT
THE OWNERS TO EXERCISE CONTROL
OR MANAGEMENT OF INDIVIDUALS
SEEKING CARE TREATMENT ANY
SICILY THESE BE CLEARED THROUGH
THE STATE AND FEDERAL CRIMINAL
DATABASES.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TO IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION TO ENSURE A SAFE
ENVIRONMENT FOR RECOVERING
ADDICTS
IN A COMPREHENSIVE INVESTIGATION
BY THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA NEWS
GROUP. THE STATE'S CURRENT
POLICIES MAKE IT TOO EASY FOR
ALMOST ANYONE TO OPEN A
TREATMENT CENTER.
AND CHARGE HEALTH INSURERS FOR
THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS PER CLIENT WITHOUT ANY
REQUIREMENTS TO ENSURE QUALIFIED
PEOPLE. ARE PROVIDING SAFE CARE
AND TREATMENT
HOWEVER THE GOAL OF S. B. NINE
OO TO IS TO TARGET THE
INDUSTRY'S BAD ACTORS NOT THOSE
WITH ESTABLISH RECORDS OF
HELPING PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM
ADDICTION.
AS SUCH S. B. NINE OH TWO ALLOWS
FLEXIBILITY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE
BEEN CONVICTED OF SPECIFIC
CRIMES AND PROVIDES AN
ACHIEVABLE ROUTE. TO ENSURE
LICENSURE THROUGH A WAIVER
PROCEDURE FOR THAT FOUGHT FOR
WHICH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
CARE SERVICES MAY APPLY WHEN
ACCESSING IN INDIVIDUALS
APPLICATION. RECENT AMENDMENTS
ARE MODELED AFTER PREVIOUS
LEGISLATION THAT PASSED THROUGH
THE LEGISLATURE IN TWENTY
FOURTEEN.
SIMILAR INDUSTRIES SUCH AS
COMMUNITY CARE LICENSING AND
REGIONAL OUR TREATMENT
FACILITIES THAT CARE FOR HALF
ADOLESCENTS ALL REQUIRE
BACKGROUND CHECKS THE
LEGISLATURE IMPLEMENTED THESE
POLICIES. OVER THE YEARS IN
ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THESE
VULNERABLE POPULATIONS ARE
SECURE AND SAFE. TODAY I ASK YOU
TO DO THE SAME FOR THOSE WHO ARE
STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTION.
THIS MEASURE PASSED OUT OF
SENATE HEALTH WITH NO NO VOTE SO
I ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
NICOLE ORNAMENT ON BEHALF OF THE
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT. US AS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE RESIDENTIAL
TREATMENT FACILITIES HAVE HAD A
LOT OF ABUSES IN OUR COUNTY AND.
WE APPRECIATE THE INTRODUCTION
OF THIS MEASURE
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
WE HAVE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
MORNING MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS MIKE
A DOCTOR OFF ON BEHALF OF THE
ACLU OF CALIFORNIA. AND WE
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE
AUTHOR HAS DONE AND.
.
ON AYE AMENDING THE BILL TO
NARROW ITS SCOPE HOWEVER
UNFORTUNATELY WE REMAIN OPPOSED
TO THE BILL. PER THREE PRIMARY
REASONS WHY NOT WE ARE STILL
CONCERNED THAT THE BILL WOULD
REDUCE TREATMENT ACCESS AND
EFFECTIVENESS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
SEEKING. ON DRUG AND SUBSTANCE
USE DISORDER TREATMENT ON PEOPLE
WITH CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS OFTEN.
SERVE AS EXCELLENT NAM TREATMENT
PROVIDERS MANY OF WHOM ARE.
IN HAVE BEEN IN RECOVERY FOR A
LONG IME THEMSELVES AND ARE NOW
SEEKING TO OPEN TREATMENT
CENTERS ON THE BASED ON THEIR
EXPERIENCES.
IN ORDER TO HELP.
I THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY
STRUGGLING SECOND.
WERE CONCERNED THAT THE BILL
WOULD FORECLOSE VIABLE AVENUES
OF EMPLOYMENT AND LEADERSHIP FOR
PEOPLE WITH CRIMINAL
CONVICTIONS.
AND LASTLY WE'RE CONCERNED THAT
THIS BILL WOULD ADD
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR BECAUSE
BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE ARE
GENERALLY MORE LIKELY TO BE
ARRESTED AND CONVICTED. THAN
WHITE PEOPLE SB NINE ONTO WOULD
DISPROPORTIONATELY LIMIT
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR
PEOPLE OF COLOR SO UNFORTUNATELY
WE REMAIN OPPOSED TO THE BILL
AND.
WELL WATCHES IT AS IT
PROGRESSES IF IT GETS OUT OF
THIS COMMITTEE.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
RIGHT MEMBERS THERE IS HERE
HEALTH POLICIES FOR THE.
APOLOGIZES OUTSIDE A CURE ROSS
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
MARIETTA WERE ACTUALLY SUPPORT
OF THE.
ALRIGHT ANY OTHER SUPPORT
WIENERS OPPOSITION COME NOW
CHURCH OKAY. I.
COMMITTEE ANY DISCUSSION GO
AHEAD CUNNINGHAM HAS MOVED BILL.
RIGHT.
.
IT JUST OUT WE WE DID AMEND THE
BILL TO ENSURE THAT. FOLKS THAT
MAY HAVE HAD PRIOR CONVICTIONS
WHO WERE TRAINED. UNDER CERTAIN.
TRAINING REGIMEN THAT OUR WOULD
GET A WAIVER FOR THIS.
I DO STILL APPRECIATE THAT
THERE MAY BE SOME FOLKS WHO.
COULD BE AFFECTED.
.
BUT APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AMENDMENTS IN
OUR ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS SOME OF
THOSE ITEMS AND WE WILL NOW DO A
ROLL CALL.
NO SORRY CENTER BATES TO HEAR
WHAT I JUST IN CLOSING THANK YOU
AND THANK YOU COMMITTEE FOR
NARROWING OF BECAUSE I BELIEVE
THE COUNSELOR CERTIFICATE THAT'S
GIVEN BY. ALL THE DEPARTMENT OF
REHABILITATION I IS VERY VERY
ESSENTIAL TO ANSWER THE QUESTION
BROUGHT UP BY THE OPPOSITION.
VERY NARROW AND ALLOWS THOSE
PEOPLE CERTAINLY TO WORK IN
THESE FACILITIES IS PEER
COUNSELORS.
EVERY IMPORTANT TO
REHABILITATION.
RIGHT SO RECALL.
AS AMENDED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE.
SKINNER AYE SKINNER AYE ANDERSON
AYE ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON AYE JACKSON
AYE MITCHELL. STONE. STONE AYE
WIENER AYE AYE WIENER AYE.
RIGHT SO WE WILL NOW GO TO YOUR
NEXT BILL ITEM THREE SB NINE
SEVEN SIX.
EARLY.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
SENATE BILL NINE SEVEN SIX
PREVENTS LEGALLY DEFINED VIOLENT
OFFENDERS FROM BEING RELEASED
EARLY. THE MEASURE IS IN LINE
WITH THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT
OF CORRECTIONS. LITIGATION
RECENT EMERGENCY REGULATIONS
THAT SOUGHT TO PREVENT THE EARLY
RELEASE OF THOSE THAT WERE NOT
INTENDED TO BE INCLUDED IN PROP
FIFTY SEVEN. UNFORTUNATELY
DANGEROUS CRIMINALS SUCH AS
THOSE THAT COMMIT CRIMES LIKE
RATE MY INTOXICATION RAPE OF AN
UNCONSCIOUS PERSON. CRIMES
AGAINST CHILDREN NOW HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO BE RELEASED FROM
PRISON EARLIER THAN ELIGIBLE FOR
PAROLE. PROP FIFTY SEVEN WAS
MISLEADING ON THIS ISSUE. S. B.
NINE SEVEN SIX IS THE NEEDED
CORRECTION TO PREVENT THESE
VIOLENT OFFENDERS FROM BEING
RELEASD BACK INTO OUR
COMMUNITIES.
AS THE BILL WAS ORIGINALLY
DRAFTED INCLUDED ALL SERIOUS
FELONIES TO THE LIST OF VIOLENT
FELONIES BUT AFTER MEETING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS IN THANK YOU WITH
THE COMMITTEE CONSULTANTS I
DECIDED TO INSTEAD. MAKE THE
MEASURE MORE CONSISTENT WITH
BOTH THE CONCERT CURRENT AND
PROPOSED CDC OUR REGULATIONS.
INSTEAD OF SIMPLY REDEFINING THE
DEFINITION OF VIOLENT FELONY S.
B. NINE SEVEN SIX WAS RECENTLY
AMENDED TO MAKE THE BILL MORE
MODEST IN LINE. WITH THE ACTIONS
OF CDC ARE THE BILL NOW LIMITS
THE LIST OF SERIOUS FELONIES
THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR EARLY
RELEASE. S. B. NINE SEVENTY SIX
ENSURES THAT ALL SERIOUS FELONS
AND PERSONS REQUIRED TO REAL
REGISTER OF SEX OFFENDERS FROM
BEING ELIGIBLE FOR PURPOSES. OF
EARLY PAROLE ADDITIONALLY ON THE
BILL IT EXCLUDES PERSONS
REQUIRED TO REGISTER AS SEX
OFFENDERS. CDC OURS RESPONSE TO
COMMENTS AND I BELIEVE THERE OR
TWELVE THOUSAND THAT WE RECEIVED
OF FOLLOWING THE DISCUSSION ON
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF PROP.
FIFTY SEVEN DEFERS TO THE
LEGISLATURE TO MAKE PROVISIONS
TO VIOLENT FELONIES ENOUGH THE
CHAIRMAN WILL ALLOW ME JUST TO
QUICKLY READ FROM. THEIR
EMERGENCY REGULATIONS UNDER THE
COMMENT EXPAND THAT LIST OF
VIOLENT OFFENSES THAT WOULD
EXCLUDE INMATES FROM. NONVIOLENT
PEARL PROCESS IT SAYS ALL OF THE
PUBLIC MAY DEBATE WHETHER
ADDITIONAL OFFENSES ARE
INHERENTLY VIOLENT IN SHOULD BE
EXCLUDED FROM THE NB PP. CDC ARE
WILL DEFER TO THE LEGISLATURE TO
MAKE ANY REVISIONS TO THE LIST
OF VIOLENT OFFENSE OFFENSES IN
PENAL CODE SECTION SIX SIX SEVEN
POINT FIVE. IN WHAT I'VE DONE IS
I'VE ACTUALLY JUST TAKEN A FEW
OF THE SERIOUS AND MADE THEM OUT
THROUGH THIS BILL INELIGIBLE FOR
EARLY PAROLE. PHAM AND
FORTUNATELY MY.
KEY WITNESS HAD SOMETHING COME
UP AT THE LAST MINUTE WILL NOT
BE HERE IF TESTIFIED THAT THE
BILL IS SUPPORTED BY THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION. ORANGE COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY TWENTY RECALL
BECAUSE IN THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY PROFESSIONAL PEACE
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND I DO
HAVE SOMEONE HERE EXCUSE ME EVEN
TWO OF. TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU SO WITNESSING SUPPORT
YOU MAY BEGIN.
I'M I'M HERE IN OPPOSITION I
THINK I TOLD. POLICY SO REALLY
WE ARE ORDERS OVER HOLD ON LET'S
JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
RIGHT THEN YOU MAY COME BACK TO
THE TABLE WERE STARTING. YEAH
BUT I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO LEAVE
DON'T. WELL I I'M.
THAT'S COOL I DO NOT EARLIER SO
I DON'T GO AHEAD OF THE MERCY
I'M DEREK FIRES I'M FROM THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION. AND WE OPPOSE THIS
BILL. OF WE THINK THAT DRIVE THE
CALIFORNIA ELECTORATE I KNEW IT
WAS DOING WHEN IT PASSED DRIVE
PROP FIFTY SEVEN.
OF WE THINK THAT BY THE CDC ARE
REGULATIONS SHOULD BE GIVEN A
CHANCE TO WORK.
BEFORE WE.
DECIDED THAT.
.
ARE PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN'T BE LET
OUT ARE BEING LET OUT. WE DID WE
SHOULD WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE CDC
ARE REGULATIONS
ARE ACTUALLY DOING.
WE THINK THAT THE EXISTING
SYSTEM OF A.
CRADDICK TIERED FELONIES OF
COUNTY JAIL FELONIES STATE
PRISON FELONIES.
SERIOUS FELONIES.
VIOLENT FELONIES EACH ONE OF
WHICH IS TREATED MORE HARSHLY.
WE THINK THAT SYSTEM IS WORKING
WELL.
WE ALSO THINK THAT OUR IF THIS
BILL PASSES IT WILL UPSET THE
VERY CAREFULLY CRAFTED SB THREE
EIGHTY FOUR. WHICH ARE MADE A
THREE TIER SYSTEM OF
REGISTRATION BY SEX OFFENDERS.
ARM AND THAT WILL BE UPSET
BECAUSE SUDDENLY ALL MY SEX
OFFENSES INCLUDING THOSE THAT
AREN'T SERIOUS OR VIOLENT.
AND THEREFORE WOULD BE INTERIOR
ONE THE PERSON WOULD BE ALLOWED
TO.
UNDER THE UNDER THE A BILL
WOULD BE STARTING IN TWENTY
TWENTY ONE. WOULD BE ALLOWED TO
PETITION TO GET OFF THE SEX
OFFENSE REGISTRY SUDDENLY THEY
WOULD. BE AT LEAST INTERIOR TO
AND MAYBE INTERIOR THREE.
SO WE THINK THAT.
SP NINE SEVENTY SIX IS AT BEST
IS PREMATURE.
AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S AND
UNNECESSARY AT ALL WE SHOULD WE
SHOULD WAIT AND SEE IF IT
BECOMES NECESSARY.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS MIKE A
DOCTOR OFF ON BEHALF OF THE ACLU
OF CALIFORNIA I WOULD ECHO.
MISTER BYERS COMMENTS AND JUST
REITERATE THAT IT IS.
TOO EARLY TO CHANGE.
THE REGULATIONS AND TO PASS
JUDGEMENT ON THEM PROP FIFTY
SEVEN IS STILL VERY NEW MEASURE.
ON AND WE DO NOT YET HAVE ENOUGH
INFORMATION TO UPSET ON WHAT IS
WHAT IS CURRENTLY.
.
BEING ESTABLISHED ARMS SO. AS
MISTER BYERS SAID WE BELIEVE
THAT THIS IS.
PREMATURE AND AN UNNECESSARY AT
THIS POINT.
OTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
GOOD MORNING GLENN BACK IS FOR
ELLA BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN
RIGHTS IN OPPOSITION.
GOOD MORNING REPEAT THEIR WITH
THE A JUSTICE COALITION WITH
OPPOSITION.
ANY OTHER.
OKAY.
MEMBERS.
I'LL START THE DISCUSSION AND
SENATOR RATES OF I WILL BE
SUPPORTING YOUR BILL TODAY.
AND YOU HAD A SIMILAR BILL LAST
YEAR WHICH I APPRECIATE YOUR
ATTENTION BUT THAT ARMY WE DID
NOT.
PASS THAT BILL OUT OF COMMITTEE
LAST YEAR AND THE.
OTHER ISSUE THAT I WANTED TO
RAISE IS THAT THERE IS A COURT
CASE RIGHT NOW. REGARDING AND
THE RATE REGULATIONS AND THE
COURT SAID THEY WERE TOO BROAD
AND ORDERED CDC ARE TO REVISE
THOSE RAKES.
SO CDC OURS APPEALING THAT
RULING BUT WHILE. IT THE ISSUE
OF THEIR EXPERIENCE COURT WE
DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO
MAKE CHANGES AT THIS TIME.
SO ON.
TWENTY EXPLAIN WHY WOULD BE.
OPPOSING IT TODAY.
THANK YOU I CHERISH SKINNER AND
I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE
CONCERNS REGARDING THE
PREMATURE.
OF NATURE OF THIS PARTICULAR
BILL OB I THOUGHT IT WAS
APPROPRIATE TO BRING IT FORWARD
AGAIN. BECAUSE THERE IS AN
INITIATIVE CIRCULATING THAT WILL
REALLY IMPACT PROP FIFTY SEVEN
ARE I BELIEVE THAT THROUGH
REGULATION AND WE HAVE MORE
CONTROL. OVER HOW IT'S
IMPLEMENTED AND OFTENTIMES THAT
THAN INITIATIVE BECAUSE OF PROP
FIFTY SEVEN FAME THING ARE A LOT
OF LOOPHOLES ARE THERE AND IS
VERY DIFFICULT AND FOR. ALL THE
JURISDICTION OF THE AGENCIES TO
MAKE SOMETHING WORK THE WAY IT'S
REALLY INTENDED AND I THINK THAT
GENERALLY SPEAKING. ARE WITH THE
TWELVE THOUSAND COMMENTS OR
RECEIVED IT'S CLEAR THAT THE
PEOPLE WERE NOT FULLY
UNDERSTANDING WHAT WAS GOING TO
BE ELIGIBLE THE COMPASSION ON
PART OF OUR PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA
WAS VERY EVIDENT AND THAT WAS
VERY GOOD WITH PROP FIFTY SEVEN
THAT PEOPLE HAVE. AN OPPORTUNITY
TO CHANGE THEIR LIFE AND MOVE
BACK INTO
SOCIETY AND BE PRODUCTIVE IN
ENJOY THE QUALITY OF LIFE FAR
OUTSIDE OF THE PRISON
ENVIRONMENT SO. I THAT'S THE
PURPOSE OF IT AND I HOPE THAT
GOING FORWARD WILL BE BACK WITH
THIS DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU THANK YOU I ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE.
SENATOR ANDERSON OUT GOOD MOVED
BILL THAT HEY WE HAVE A MOTION.
YES IN THE WORLD AT THE MOTION
IS TO PASSAGE APPROPRIATIONS
ROLL CALL PLEASE SKINNER NOPE
SKINNER NOW ANDERSON AYE
ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD. BRADFORD
NOW JACKSON JACKSON NO MITCHELL
STONE.
DON'T AYE WIENER.
SO WILL HOLD THE ROLE OF
INCENTIVE XP YOU HAVING TO WORK
BILLS. SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT
ONCE ITEMS SEVEN S. B. ELEVEN OF
THREE.
AND CAUGHT HEARD THE POP.
INFORMATION ON THE BILL OUGHT
THE LAST HEARING I DID LISTEN TO
OZ SENATOR JACKSON'S PROPOSAL
THAT PERHAPS THERE SHOULD BE A
WOBBLY OR MAKING IT DISCRETION.
OF BECAUSE THE JUDGE SO I DID
INCLUDE THAT IT OUT SEE AN
AMENDMENT SO IT ADDS IF BILL
WOULD ADD FAT NO TO A LIST OF
DANGEROUS DRUGS INCLUDING HEROIN
COCAINE. SUBJECT TO SENTENCING
ENHANCEMENTS ARE THERE
AMENDMENTS THAT I DID TAKE IN
RESPONSE TO SENATOR JACKSON'S
COMMENT IS THAT THE BILL WOULD
SIMPLY GIVE JUDGES. THE OPTION
OF GIVING ADDITIONAL HARASSMENT
IF THEY SO CHOOSE RATHER THAN
MAKING IT MANDATORY THAT WAY
THERE'D BE DISCUSSION THERE IN
TERMS OF THE AMOUNT. BECAUSE
THIS IS ABOUT THE SENTENCE
ENHANCEMENT IS TIED TO THE
AMOUNT TO THE SIZE OF. OUR THE
IMPORTATION.
THAT'S CONFISCATED YOU KNOW IN
TERMS TO KILOS AND IT MATCHES
COCAINE AND HEROIN IN THE PENAL
CODE IN TERMS OF WHAT A SENSE
ENHANCE IT WOULD BE SO. I JUST
LIKE TO REQUEST THE MEASURE BE
VOTED ON AT THE END OF THE
AGENDA. IN TERMS OF THE
AMENDMENT AND I THINK YOU ALL
HAVE A COPY OF THAT PER THAT
PROPOSED AMENDMENT RIGHT TO WILL
DO A VOTE ONLY AND.
YEAH AND LATER. ON AND I.
JUST WANTED SINCE WE'RE IN THE
DISCUSSION PORTION.
.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT
THAT NO IT IS QUITE DANGEROUS
AND IT IS CONTRIBUTING TO OUR
OVERDOSE DEATHS HOWEVER IT IS.
USUALLY AS WE'VE DISCUSSED
BEFORE. MIXED WITH SUBSTANCES
THAT ALREADY HAVE.
AT THE PENALTIES THAT YOU WERE
ADVOCATING FOR AND AT THIS POINT
IN TIME. I AM NOT SUPPORTIVE OF
ADDING IN CAN'T SENTENCE
ENHANCEMENT SO. THAT IS MY
DIFFICULTY EVEN WITH THE
AMENDMENT I APPRECIATE IT MADE A
LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE BUT THAT'S
MY DIFFICULT TO.
SENATOR JACKSON.
YEAH I I WANTED ON THANK YOU FOR
YOUR EFFORTS HERE.
YOU KNOW THE SYSTEM ISN'T
PERFECT BY A LONG SHOT.
AND.
IS IT AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU
DID LISTEN TO MY INQUIRY LAST
WEEK.
THE THE PROBLEM AT AND FENNEL WE
ARE AT WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING
ABOUT THIS A TERRIBLE DRUG I
KEEP HEARING ON A DAILY BASIS
OF.
PEOPLE WHO.
YOUNG PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR DIED
OF OVERDOSES.
I INADVERTENTLY OF THIS AWFUL.
DRUGGING CREATING ALL THE PAIN
IN FAMILIES THAT.
.
IN ADJUSTED IS IS EXCRUCIATING
AND INCONSOLABLE.
I JUST DON'T THINK ADDING.
THIS ADDITIONAL TERM.
MAKES THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE
THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND JOHN.
IT AS WAS MENTIONED IT'S
USUALLY LACE WAS SOMETHING THAT
IS ALREADY SUBJECT TO THAT. AND
IS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
TAKES OF MOST DRUG OFFENSES
OFFENSE CASES WHERE THERE'S THAT
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE DRUG
SO. IT'S ALREADY ON THEIR PLATE.
I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN.
HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOU
AND SENATOR CENTER STONE WHO.
YOU KNOW.
KNOWS HOW TO MIX DRUGS TO HEAL
RATHER THAN TO KILL AND TO.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT
THAT. BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND I
SUPPORT HIM EFFORT.
BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THIS
DOESN'T BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR
EFFORTS.
THANK YOU SENATOR JACKSON AGAIN
I JUST TO FOCUS FINANCE ON ABOUT
THE FIFTH NO THAT'S LEAST INTO
OTHER DRUGS. IT'S ABOUT THE PEER
FAN NOW IN KILO FORM THIS BEING
IMPORTED.
PRODUCED OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTRY
AND BROUGHT INTO OUR COUNTRY IN
HUGE QUANTITIES ON THAT ALLOWS
THOSE WHO ARE MIXING UP WITH
THESE OTHER. DRUGS TO HAVE SMALL
AMOUNTS ON A TO ENHANCE THE
HIGH.
IN THOSE OF THEIR DRUG SO IT IS
REALLY TO STOP THOSE LARGE
QUANTITIES ON THOSE LARGE
PRODUCERS BASICALLY THE DRUG
CARTELS HOOPER BRINGING INDIAN
AND. IN BRICKS AND BRICKS LOW
ABOUT WILL WE CAN CONTINUE OUR
CONVERSATION MAYBE FIND THE
PATHWAY. TO ENSURE THAT THOSE
THAT WE CUT OFF THE PRODUCTION
IN THE SUPPLY THINK THAT IS WHAT
I HOPE THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT WHICH HAS THE
INTERDICT BROKE GRAHAM AND THESE
ARE YEAH I NOTICED THERE SHOULD
BE. DOING THEIR JOB JURISDICTION
CORRECT.
THERE'S NO.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU OFFER FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD.
.
S. DEVASTATING THE FAMILIES WHEN
THEIR KIDS ARE EXPERIMENTING.
AND.
AS HIS.
IMMEDIATE.
RESPIRATORY DEPRESSION AND
DEATH FOR A LOT OF THESE KIDS
THAT THINK THEY'RE INJECTING
HEROIN AND FOLLOWING
INSTRUCTIONS WITH OF.
THE DRUG IS SUPPOSED TO
EVENSONG.
IN THE NEWS THAT.
PRINCE.
DIED AS A RESULT OF LEAST WE
THOUGHT WAS WHY COULDN'T HE
THOUGHT HE WAS IS TAKING SOME
MIKE AND THEN.
SHOWS YOU HOW POTENT
A FRIEND THAT LIVES IN A FIFTY
TIMES STRONGER MORE POTENT THAN
HEROIN IS AND.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MY NEW
QUANTITIES I THINK I MENTIONED
IN ONE OF THE HEARINGS AT TWO
KILOS OF THUMBNAILS ENOUGH TO
OVERDOSE ENTIRE POPULATION OF
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA SO YOU
CAN IMAGINE THE VOLUME.
THAT IS COMING AND I THINK YOUR
BILL IS JUST TRYING TO PUT A
HALT. TO THAT IMPORTATION WITH
SOME SEVERE CONSEQUENCES AND.
I'M NOT SURE IF THIS DOESN'T
PASS WITH OF THAT THE SOLUTION
IS GOING TO BE FIVE I PUT. THE
HONOR TO WORK WITH US SENATOR
JACKSON IN YOURSELF AND AND THE
CHAIR TO. COME UP WITH SOMETHING
BECAUSE.
YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT THE CALL
THAT A FRIEND OF OURS THAT.
MOVED TO COLORADO.
THEIR THEIR KID WAS.
EXPERIMENTING WITH.
WITH HEROIN AND MOM CALLED THE
KIDS FOR BREAKFAST AND THE KID
DIDN'T COME UP FROM THE BASEMENT
AND THEY WENT DOWN AND. THE KID
WAS FOUND WITH A NEEDLE IN HIS
ARM MANY WISHES.
LIKE INSTANTANEOUSLY.
S. AWAY AND AND THEN IT WAS A
YEAR AGO SUMMER WE HAD.
FIFTEEN INCIDENTS OF TALENT HE'S
HERE IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY ALONE
AND IF YOU IF YOU GOOGLE DESK TO
DEFEND ACROSS THE UNITED STATES
IT IS REALLY BECOMING AND. AN
EPIDEMIC.
AND WILL BECOME A PANDEMIC IF.
TO GETS DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT
THE WORLD A LOT OF US LISTEN
BECOMING THROUGH CHINA IT'S VERY
INEXPENSIVE DRUGS SYMPATHIZE AND
SO. THAT MAKES IT EASIER AND
CHEAPER THAN HER WENT BUT HAS
MUCH MORE DEVASTATING
CONSEQUENCES AND.
WE NEED TO STAND UP AS A STATE
AND SAY THAT WE HAVE PROTECT OUR
YOUNG KIDS FROM THIS
EXPERIMENTATION STICK IN THEIR
LIVES AND. TWENTY APPRECIATE
YOUR EFFORTS
WE TARGETED OUR BORDERS WEAKENED
ACTUALLY VOTE NOW. SO CAN WE
DON'T NEED TO WAIT TO THE END
AND. SENATOR STONE I WAS GOING
TO TAKE THAT AS A MOTION
ASSESSMENT THANK YOU. RIGHT AND
WE HAVE A MOTION REALLY FEET YOU
PASSED TO APPROPRIATIONS REAL
PROMPTLY.
WELL THERE'S NO.
WELL IT HAD BEEN AMENDED YES.
CORRECT CORRECT.
SKINNER.
I'M NO SKINNER NOW ANDERSON.
PERSON I BRADFORD.
JACKSON.
MITCHELL.
STONE I DON'T AYE WIENER.
WIENER NOW.
WILL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN AND NOW
WE'LL GO TO YOUR FINAL BILL.
WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER THIRTEEN SP
TWELVE OH FOR. AND WE AND
DISCUSSED THIS LAST WEEK I
CERTAINLY WILL ALLOW YOU TO ADD
ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE. BUT I
WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY
APPRECIATION FOR YOUR STAFF AND
YOURSELF WORKING WITH. OUR
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND I
THINK WE PLANTED ON SOME
AMENDMENTS BUT GO AHEAD.
I YES LET ME JUST START BY
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS THAT EACH OF YOU HAVE
IN FRONT OF YOU AND THANK ALL
YEAR. STAFF FILE THEY'VE HAD A
HEAVY LIFT THIS WEEK FILE WITH
NOT ONLY MY BILLS WHEN ASSURE
YOUR ENTIRE AGENDA TODAY AND I'M
GOING FORWARD SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THE MEMBERS VERY SIMPLY.
THE STRIP THE CURRENT PROVISIONS
OF THE BILL WHICH CONSOLIDATED
THE DEFINITION OF PANDERING A
WHICH WAS ON A VERY DIFFICULT
FOR A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. ARE
FOCUSING ON WITH THE DIRECTION
OF THE CHAIR TO THE TERM OF
SUPERVISING SO ARE WE DO HAVE A
SENSE ENHANCEMENT INCREASES FROM
SIX TO TWELVE MOTHS THE AMOUNT
OF TIME THAT A PERSON WHO IS
GUILTY. OF SUPERVISING A
PROSTITUTE CAN RECEIVE AND
THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE SAME
PEOPLE CALLED THE DISCUSSES
PANDERING SO IT FOCUSES A
ELEVATE SUPERVISING OUGHT TO
OUGHT MORE THE HIGHER LEVEL OF.
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND CERTAIN
SENSE SO OF MY DISCUSSIONS WITH
THE ORANGE COUNTY ORANGE WITH
THE ORANGE COUNTY DA THEY THEY
DON'T OFTEN USE THIS. OP SO
THEY'RE NOT HERE IN SUPPORT BUT
THEY'RE NOT OPPOSING THERE'D
THEIR NEUTRAL BUT I BELIEVE THAT
IT'S A IT'S A GOOD STEP IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION. AND I DO
APPRECIATE THAT OUT THINKING THE
CHAIR AND AGAIN THE STAFF FOR
WORKING WITH ME. ON THE PHONE I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE.
THANK YOU.
.
WE ALREADY HEARD AND WE DON'T
NEED TO HAVE WITNESSES.
PROPOSITION THIS POINT OKAY
STUFF
SO. I DID INDICATE AND MY
APPRECIATION AND I WANTED TO
EXPLAIN.
.
THAT FROM.
.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I TONY PRE
SHAVE WHAT YOUR INTENT WAS WAS
TO GET OUT.
THIS.
EXPLOITATION THAT WE KNOW IS
HAPPENING WHETHER IT'S THROUGH
HUMAN TRAFFICKING OR OTHER MEANS
WHERE.
WE KNOW THEY'RE STRONG STRONG
EVIDENCE OF THE FACT THAT THERE
ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPLOITING
WOMEN TO BECOME SEX WORKERS IN
ORDER FOR THEM TO MAKE A PROFIT
OFF IT THOSE WOMEN AND IN MANY
CASES IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING IT'S
AND MINERS.
BUT WE ALSO DID NOT WANT TO GET
IN A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE
CRIMINALIZING SUCH FOLKS WHO
WERE.
IN EFFECT TRYING TO.
INTERVENE WITH THOSE IN THE SEX
TRADE TO PROTECT THEIR SAFETY
WHETHER IT'S.
FOR.
SAFE SEX OR OTHER ACTIVITY. AND
BUT WE WANTED TO DO WAS MAKE
SURE THAT
THE ANYTHING WE PUT INTO STATUTE
REALLY GOT AT THOSE PEOPLE WHO
ARE EXPLOITING SEX WORKER SO I
THINK THAT WE'VE DONE A BETTER
JOB AT LANDING. TOWARDS THAT IN
SENATOR STONE.
OUR.
FOLLOWING YOU.
OKAY SORRY ALRIGHT SO DO WE HAVE
A MOTION ON THE BILL.
RIGHT TO IT IS.
.
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS.
SKINNER BY.
SKINNER AYE ANDERSON AYE
ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD.
JACKSON.
MITCHELL.
DOWN.
DOWN AYE WIENER NO WIENER NOW.
WE'LL HOLD THE ROLE OPEN. AND
HAVE.
WHAT ARE?
OTHER MEMBERS JOIN US INCLUDE.
THANK YOU FOR.
ARE WE WILL NOW GO TO LET'S SEE
I THINK SENATOR OR LACKS.
YES ITEM SIX S. B. TEN NINETY
NINE.
YES CENTER BORROWER QUALITIES.
BY NOT BEING TOO AND ALLOWED
THERE ARE GREAT ADVENTURE AND.
.
INTERVIEW MEANS BEING SO PATIENT
FIRST ONE IN THE ROOM YET AT THE
GO AHEAD CENTER WELL.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
I'D.
COLLEAGUES ON OCTOBER THIRD THE
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
ON WHICH I SERVE AS VICE CHAIR
WITH SENATOR HANNAH BETH JACKSON
I HELD A HEARING. TITLED
COMBATING HATE WHILE PROTECTING
CONSTITUTION AND WE HEARD FROM.
FORMER UCI BEING OF LOTS OF
THEIR LAW SCHOOL IRWIN
CHEMERINSKY OUR A CO AUTHOR WITH
THE CURRENT CHANCELLOR OF UCI
HOWARD GILMAN.
WHO BOTH WROTE FREE SPEECH ON
CAMPUS FOR ALL A LECTURE ON THE
U. S. CONSTITUTION?
BUT LISTENING TO ANDREW
GREENWOOD'S THE BERKELEY POLICE
CHIEF I HAD.
BIG IMPRESSION ON ME COLLEGE
CAMPUSES ARE INTERESTING PRIVATE
COLLEGES.
CAN PROHIBIT ASSEMBLIES BY
OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS BUT PUBLIC
CAMPUSES CANNOT.
CONSEQUENTLY CALIFORNIA'S
COLLEGE CAMPUSES HAVE TO RESPECT
ASSEMBLIES. BUT HAVING THE
BERKELEY PDS SYMBOL OF FORCE
AMASSED MASSIVE FORCE.
THE DEAL WITH PROTESTERS WHO
LAST YEAR INJURED PEOPLE
DESTROYED PROPERTY.
AND CAME WITH THE INTENTION TO
DO SO. IS UNEXPLAINABLE.
BEN SHAPIRO SPOKE AS A WITNESS
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING
AND ADDRESS THE CONCERN OF
RESTRICTING CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS THROUGH A. HECKLER'S
VETO.
IT IS INTIMIDATING WHEN
INDIVIDUALS SHOW UP WITH ITEMS
MANY WOULD REFER TO AS
EQUALIZERS OUR WEAPONS OR.
THIS IS WRONG ON ITS FACE AND IT
IS AN ACT OF BULLYING. AND
CONSEQUENTLY I LOOK FOR A LOOK
FOR A SOLUTION AND FOUND ONE IN
A RECENT LOS ANGELES CITY
COUNCIL ORDINANCE.
S. B. TEN NINETY NINE REFLECTS
THIS COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE
CITY COUNCIL AND THE LOS ANGELES
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AYE HOWEVER I AM ACCEPTING THAT
COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS.
TO THEIR.
ORDINANCE
BEFORE YOU NOW IS S. B. TEN
NINETY NINE.
MADAM CHAIR WE NEED TO PROTECT
OUR STUDENTS WE NEED TO PROTECT
STATE PROPERTY WE NEED TO
PROTECT SPREE SPEECH SHOWING
DEFTLY NEED TO PROTECT PEACEFUL
ASSEMBLY. SP TEN NINETY NINE
PROVIDES UNIFORMITY FOR ALL OF
CALIFORNIA'S JURISDICTIONS.
IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT WERE EVEN
HERE.
I THAT INDIVIDUALS NEED TO BE
RUSHED TO HOSPITAL EMERGENCY
ROOMS BECAUSE OTHERS ATTACK THEM
WITH TOOLS AND WEAPONS. CARRIED
TO THE EVENT.
WEARING MASKS AND BLACK OUT THIS
IS SCARY ENOUGH BUT BRINGING
LARGE ROCKS AND STICKS IS BEYOND
PROPER ETIQUETTE. AND COURTEOUS
MANNERS COLLEAGUES UNTIL WE
RETURN TO AN ATMOSPHERE RESPECT
WE NEED TO GIVE PUBLIC SAFETY
OFFICIALS ADDITIONAL TOOLS. TO
PREVENT UGLY ESCALATIONS AND
PERSONAL ATTACKS AT
DEMONSTRATIONS AND PROTESTS OUR
RESIDENTS DESERVE PEACEFUL
ASSEMBLY SP TEN NINETY NINE IS
ONE WAY TO US ASSIST IN THIS.
SOCIETAL CONCERN
I'M.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPOSITION TO
SB TEN AYE BUT DOING NOTHING
WOULD BE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO
CALM THINGS DOWN I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST AND I'VE.
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION WE CAN.
.
COME TO THE TABLE TO AT THE
TABLE AND THEN THE OTHER SYSTEM.
BROWN CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE CREEK TO LOSE ON
BEHALF OF FIREARMS POLICY
COALITION. BUT WE COMPLETELY
RESPECT OF THE AUTHOR'S DESIRE
AND AND WHAT THE GOAL IS HERE.
BUT WE ALSO OPERATE UNDER THE
ASSUMPTION THAT TO SACRIFICE
LIBERTY FOR SECURITY.
IS IS FOOLHARDY IN THAT ONE
WILL EVENTUALLY WIND UP WITH
NEITHER A THIS PARTICULAR
MEASURE FIRST OF ALL IT'S PUT
UNDERSTAND THAT THE ACTIONS THAT
HAVE TAKEN PLACE AND MANY OF
THESE INCIDENCES.
HAVE ARE ALREADY COVERED UNDER
KEEP UNDER CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE
IN MANY IN MANY MANY AREAS IN
FACT. RIEN RECENT TIMES
CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE CRIMINAL
MISBEHAVIOR IS GROWN.
FIVE THOUSAND NEW PROVISIONS
COVERING ALL SORTS OF A OF HUMAN
MISBEHAVIOR AS.
AS GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN IS PUT
IT. UP WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT
THIS MEASURE IN FACT MAKES
PEOPLE SAFER BECAUSE THE BIGGEST
CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE THIS.
IS THAT THE INDIVIDUALS FOR WHOM
YOU ARE SEEKING TO PROTECT ARE
THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE SEEKING TO
WILL ABIDE BY THESE LAW BY BY
THIS PARTICULAR LAW.
THE ONES WHO WOULD SEEK TO
ATTACK THEM THE ONES WHO WHO WHO
HAVE ALREADY DEMONSTRATED THAT
THEY WILL VIOLATE THE LAW. THEY
ARE STILL GOING TO BRING THESE
VERY SAME THINGS AND STILL GOING
TO VIOLATE THE LAW. AND SO ALL
YOU'VE IN FACT DONE IS LIMITED
NOT JUST THE SECOND AMENDMENT OR
THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
FOR INDIVIDUALS. FOR EXAMPLE WHO
HAVE A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT OF
THAT THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE
ABLE TO.
THROUGH TO EXERCISE THAT RIGHT
TO BEAR ARMS BUT ALSO THEIR FREE
SPEECH RIGHTS.
IT IS FOR THIS REASON THAT.
WE REGRETTABLY HAVE TO OPPOSE
THIS MEASURE THANK YOU.
BUT.
CHARACTERS OF CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION I DID
DISAPPEARANCE RIGHT NOW HEALTH.
OF WHEAT WE DO OPPOSE THIS BILL.
IT TO ID THE BILL AS WELL
INTENTIONED AND I UNDERSTAND
THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH
SUPPOSEDLY DOING NOTHING. BUT WE
DO THINK THAT.
WHAT IS BAND HERE IS ALREADY
COVERED UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW?
WE DON'T SEE
A THE BENEFIT OF MAKING THE
PENAL CODE MORE COMPLEX.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE HIS
SECOND SAYS IT DOESN'T APPLY IF
THE PERSON DOESN'T LEAVE IF
THERE'S A WARNING.
BUT ALLOWED THIS IS AN
INVITATION A TELL PEOPLE TO
LEAVE JUST BECAUSE A G. THEY
MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS
LIKE IT'S PROHIBITED AND
SUDDENLY THERE'S. YOU OUT LEAVE
YOU GOTTA LEAVE.
WE HAVE ENOUGH LAWS ON THE
BOOKS RIGHT NOW TO TAKE CARE OF
THIS PROBLEM INCLUDING.
.
ARE GIVING AUTHORITIES THE RIGHT
TO.
TELL PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE A
CARRYING A DEAD DANGEROUS OR
DEADLY WEAPON.
I'D TO OUR TO BE A LEVER TO BE
ARRESTED SO WE THINK THAT THIS
BILL WELL INTENTIONED THOUGH IT
IS IS NOT NECESSARY.
OTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS KEVIN PIC OF
AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION
I'M ALSO RESPECTFULLY IN
OPPOSITION THE BILL CRIMINALIZES
ACTS.
DONE FOR EXPRESSIVE PURPOSES
THAT ARE NOT DONE FOR NOT
EXPRESS PURPOSE YOU CAN CARRY
THE SAME ITEMS. INCLUDING ITEMS
AS INNOCENT AS A SORT OF MODEL
DOWN INTO PROTEST AND BE
CRIMINALIZED UNDER THE STATUTE
AND THEREFORE OPPOSED THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN.
OPPOSITION.
RIGHT AND COMMITTEE. FENDER
AMPS.
WHY JUST LIKE THE? SENATE TO.
.
BUT DRESS THE ISSUE OF BETWEEN
THIS THE.
CONCEALED PERMIT.
THE END OF
THE FIRST MEMBER.
AND THEN NOW I'M HAPPEN WITH
BILL THINK.
BECAUSE UNDERSERVED. BRING MORE
USE ME SENATOR MORE ELECTRICITY
IN ACRYLIC YOU MADAM CHAIR THANK
YOU SENATOR ANDERSON. I AM BY
NOT OPPOSED TO. THE CW'S A
SENATOR I HAVE.
A WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE
FIREARMS POLICY COALITION TRIED
TO WORK WITH THEM THEY OFFERED
NO AMENDMENTS.
SO THIS IS.
A CASE WHERE SOMEONE SHOWING UP
TO A PEACEFUL ASSEMBLY WITH A
TWO BY FOUR TO HOLD UP A PAPER
SIGNED. A WITH AN INTENTION TO
DO SOMETHING AND ALL WE'RE
SAYING IS.
A PURE APPROACHED FEATHER
DECIDE.
YOU KNOW GO BACK AND GET IT WHEN
YOU'RE DONE I DON'T ENTER INTO
THE THE THE PURPOSES OR INTO
THE.
ARENA WHO ARE READY TO START
SWINGING SOMETHING THAT.
IS INAPPROPRIATE SO IT'S A IT'S
A I THINK A PROPER SAFETY A
TOOL.
I'M IF FIVE.
IF WE CAN MAKE SOME OF
APPROPRIATE AMENDMENTS I'M HAPPY
TO DO THAT AND I GUESS I SHOULD
BE HONORED THAT I'D GET THE ACLU
AND. THE FIREARMS POLICY
COALITION THE UNITED ON AN
ISSUE.
BUT.
HAPPY TO WORK WITH WHOMEVER
WHATEVER I JUST WANT MY CITIZENS
TO BE PROTECTED WITH MAY GO TO
AN EVENT.
WE HAD A A PRETTY CRAZY EVENT
OUT HERE EVEN AT THE CAPITOL TWO
YEARS AGO WITH THE.
OUR MAYBE BY THEN LAST YEAR BUT
ONE GROUP SHOWS UP ANOTHER GROUP
SHOWS UP FULLY ARMED. STARTS YOU
KNOW PUNCHING THE WAY WE HAD
THAT IN ANAHEIM AS WELL.
SO OVER WE'RE GOING TO SAY WAIT
A SECOND THIS IS THIS IS AMERICA
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE.
AND SENATOR ANDERSON YOU MOVE
THE BILL.
OKAY I JUST WANTED TO.
.
INDICATING CASE THOSE WHO ARE.
HERM CENTER MORE LIKE DESCRIBED.
HIS TAKING THE AMENDMENTS BUT
JUST FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW. THE
AMENDMENTS INCLUDED THAT IT
REMOVES.
THE.
.
REFERENCE TO GLASS BOTTLES
AEROSOL SPRAYS.
AND IT.
.
PROTECTS SIGNS POSTERS BANNERS
PLAQUES NOTICES
AND OTHER THINGS SO.
.
RIGHT SO THE MOTION IS TO PASS
AS AMENDED TO.
APPROPRIATIONS.
I WILL HAVE ROLL CALL. OR SORRY
I'M SENATOR MORE LIKE WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE I THINK THAT'S
WHAT THAT'S GREAT I JUST RIPPED
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST TONIGHT.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
SKINNER.
RIGHT SKINNER AYE ANDERSON.
ANDERSON NO BRADFORD.
JACKSON A JACKSON AYE MITCHELL.
STONE.
WIENER I'VE WIENER AYE.
WHY WILL?
KEEP THAT.
.
ON ROLE CALDERON CALL. AND.
WINNER OTHER ABSENT MEMBERS
COME BACK SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH
AND WE WILL.
YES WILL GO TO SENATOR NEWMAN.
WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER SEVENTEEN
.
THANK YOU. YOU MAY PROCEED
SHARE.
AND SENATORS THANK YOU FOR
CONSIDERING SP WELVE FORTY TWO.
WHICH AIMS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE
AND CLARITY TO THE BOARD OF
PAROLE IN THE CONSIDERATION
POSSIBLE. POSSIBLE PAROLE FOR
INMATES SERVING LIFE SENTENCES
THROUGH THE CODIFICATION OF
IMPORTANT ELEMENTS IN THE PAROLE
HEARING PROESS. THAT WILL
ENSURE GREATER TRANSPARENCY
INCREASE PROTECTIONS FOR VICTIMS
AND METICULOUS SCRUTINY OF
INMATES BEING CONSIDERED FOR
PAROLE. UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW
LIFE SENTENCES MAY BE IMPOSED BY
THE JUDICIARY FOR EITHER
COMMITTING OR CONSPIRING TO
COMMIT CRIMES OF ESPECIALLY
HEINOUS AND CRUEL NATURE
INCLUDING. SEX CRIMES AGAINST
CHILDREN MURDER AGGRAVATED
ASSAULT KIDNAPPING AND RAPE.
DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE
CRIME IN THE DETERMINATION OF
THE SENTENCING JUDGE INDIVIDUALS
CONVICTED OF SUCH ACTS MAY BE
SENTENCED EITHER LIFE WITH OR
WITHOUT PAROLE.
IN INSTANCES WHERE INMATES
SERVING A SENTENCE OF LIFE WITH
THE POSSIBILITY ROLE HAS SERVED
A SUFFICIENT PERIOD OF TIME.
THE BOARD OF PAROLE HEARINGS IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR CONDUCTING
PAROLE HEARINGS AND THEN BASED
UPON THE RESULTS OF THOSE
PROCEEDINGS RULING ON THE
INMATES SUITABILITY FOR PAROLE.
WHEN MAKING THE DETERMINATION
WHETHER AN INMATE SHOULD BE
GRANTED OR DENIED PAROLE PAROLE
PANEL TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION
SEVERAL FACTORS INCLUDING THE
GRAVITY OFFENSE COMMITTED THE
INMATES CRIMINAL HISTORY. THEIR
SOCIAL HISTORY PSYCHOLOGICAL
FACTORS IN CURRENT MEDICAL
CONDITIONS THEIR INSTITUTION
BEHAVIOR. AND THE OVERALL
QUALITY IN PROGRESS TO THE
INMATES REHABILITATIVE EFFORTS
WHILE IN PRISON.
THE PEARL PROCESS WHICH IS BY
DOES WHICH BY DESIGN SEEKS TO
APPLY EQUAL MEASURES MERCY AND
DISPASSIONATE ANALYSIS IS NOT
PERFECT UNDER GOVERNOR BROWN'S
TENURE THE NUMBER OF INMATES
GONNA PEARL HAS RISEN
DRAMATICALLY. AND TWO THOUSAND
SIXTEEN ALONE NEARLY EIGHT AND
HUNDRED TWENTY INMATES SERVING
LICENSES WERE GRANTED PAROLE
COMPARED TO JUST ONE HUNDRED
NINETEEN IN TWO THOUSAND SEVEN.
BY STATUTE ANYTIME A LIFERS
GRANTED PAROLE THE GOVERNOR IS
THEN REQUIRED TO REVIEW THAT
DECISION.
UPON REVIEW THE GOVERNOR MAY DO
THE FOLLOWING AFFIRMED THE
DECISION REFER THE PANEL'S
DECISION TO THE FULL BOARD FOR
ANOTHER REVIEW OR TAKE NO
ACTION.
FURTHER IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES
WHERE AN INMATE CONVICTED OF
MURDER IS RECOMMENDED FOR PAROLE
THE GOVERNOR HAS THE AUTHORITY
TO REVERSE OR MODIFY THAT
DECISION.
SINCE JANUARY FIRST TWO THOUSAND
FOURTEEN THE BOARD HAS ON TEN
SEPARATE OCCASIONS GRANTED
QUESTION FOR ALL DATES TO
INMATES CONVICTED OF HEINOUS
CRIMES RAISING SERIOUS QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE RISKS. POSED TO
COMMUNITIES BY THE RELEASE OF
THOSE INMATES IN QUESTION.
IN EACH OF THOSE CASES APPLYING
A THOUGHTFUL AND DELIBERATE
REASON PROCESS GOVERNOR BROWN
ULTIMATELY OVERTURNED AT THOSE
GRANTS.
MOREOVER IN FULFILLING ITS
OBLIGATION TO REVIEW SUCH GRANTS
GOVERNOR BROWN HAS BEEN
METICULOUS AND THOROUGH
RENDERING A SERIES OF DECISIONS
THAT REFLECT A SOBER AND
THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS. OF THE
CASES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE HIM.
S. B. TWELVE FORTY TWO WOULD
BUILD OFF THE STREET FOR AN
OBJECTIVE METHODOLOGY EMPLOYED
BY OUR CURRENT GOVERNOR. TO
ENSURE THAT IN CASES WHERE THE
PAROLE BOARD CONSIDERS GRANTING
PAROLE TO INMATES SERVING LIFE
SENTENCES IN THE FUTURE THE
FOLLOWING PARAMETERS WILL BE
APPLIED.
THAT THE INMATE HAS BEEN FREE
FROM DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS FOR A
REGIONAL PERIOD OF TIME PRIOR TO
THE HEARING. THAT THE INMATE HAS
REMORSE AN INSIGHT INTO THE
NATURE OF THE CRIME FOR WHICH HE
OR SHE HAS BEEN CONVICTED UNLESS
THE INMATE ASSERTS HIS OR HER
FACTUAL INNOCENCE OF THE CRIME.
THAT THE INMATE HAS NOT MINIMIZE
HIS OR HER ROLE IN THE CRIME AND
HAS AND IS CREDIBLE ABOUT HIS OR
HER ROLE IN THE CRIME. THAT THE
INMATE HAS MADE CHANGES THAT
CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED DEPARTURE
FROM THE PRIOR CRIMINALITY THAT
THE INMATE HAS DEMONSTRATED
POSITIVE ACTIVITIES WHILE IN
CUSTODY. AND THAT THE INMATE HAS
DEVELOPED REALISTIC POST RELEASE
PLANS TO AVOID RELAPSE OR THE
PURSUIT OF OTHER CONTACTED
CONTRIBUTED TO PRIOR
CRIMINALITY.
THE APPLICATION BE WISE AND WELL
CONSIDERED APPROACH TO THE VIEW
OF PAROLE HEARINGS IS AMONG THE
MANY WAYS THAT CALIFORNIA HAS
BENEFITED FROM THE SERVICE OF
GOVERNOR BROWN.
AS MEMBERS OF BOARD OF PAROLE AB
OF THE BOARD OF PAROLE
DISCHARGED THAT RESPONSIBILITY
IN THE CONDUCT OF FUTURE
HEARINGS.
THEY WOULD BE WELL SERVED TO DO
THE SAME. THE CODIFICATION OF
THESE EMILY REASONABLE AND
PROVEN PRACTICES THROUGH S. B.
TWELVE FORTY TWO. WILL ENSURE
THAT THEY DO THEREB PROTECTING
CALIFORNIA CITIZENS WANT ME TO
THE CURRENT PAROLE PROCESSES I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
TODAY WITH ME TO TESTIFY. IS
JOHN LEVEL NOT BE HAVE THE LOS
ANGELES PROFESSIONAL PEACE
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND BRIAN
MARVEL THE SAN DIEGO POLICE
OFFICER AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE
PEACE OFFICERS RESEARCH
ASSOCIATION.
MADAM CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS MY NAME IS BRIAN MARVEL
PRESENCE AND.
PEACE OFFICERS RESEARCH
ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA.
WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT TO S.
B. TWELVE FORTY TWO AND WHAT ITS
INTENT IS.
I AM ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS
THAT WE'RE HERE FOR IS.
ONE OF OUR OFFICERS BACK IN
NINETEEN SEVENTY EIGHT WAS
EXECUTED.
AND.
HIS.
MURDER EXECUTIONER.
HAS BEEN PAROLED FOUR TIMES AND
HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN
MAKING SURE THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL
STAYS IN PRISON.
HOW WASN'T UNTIL THIS RECENTLY?
WHERE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY?
BODY TO HONEST I ACTUALLY WENT
BACK HAD SOME EXPERT WITNESSES
REEVALUATE THE CRIME SCENE.
AND.
THE.
PERSON A PRISON AS HE SEES THIS
ANYA. IE CLEARLY DENIED THAT HE
EXECUTED THIS OFFICER EXECUTED
ARCHIE*. SANDY OPD ARCHIE
BOOKS.
DURING THIS EVALUATION AND
EXPERT ANALYSIS OF THE CRIME
SCENE A CLEARLY SHOWED. THAT THE
SIX SHOTS HE SHOT HIM SIX TIMES
THE SIX SHOTS.
WHO'S WHO'S HEAD.
AT NEARLY POINT BLANK RANGE THE
BLOOD SPLATTER PROVED THAT WAS
THE CASE.
BUT YET WHEN THIS WAS
INTRODUCED.
FOR THE FOURTH TIME TO THIS
PEARL BOARD.
THEY STILL GRANTED HIM PAROLE.
AND THERE NEEDS TO BE CHANGES.
CLEARLY SAYING THAT THERE NEEDS
TO BE CHANGES.
I THINK THIS IS A MODEST
APPROACH.
THE CODE OF AYE.
AND TAKE WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S
DOING TO EVALUATE MURDERS WERE
BEING PAROLED.
PUTTING AN END.
BY CODIFYING THIS.
I HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS
FORWARD. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
YOU.
WORK WITH ANY OF THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THIS MOVE
THIS FORWARD THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR I JOHN LOVELL ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES POLICE
PROTECTIVE LEAGUE.
AND THE.
LOS ANGELES COUNTY PROFESSIONAL
PEACE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
OF THE.
AUTHOR I THINK UP AND AT THE
OUTLINES OF THE BILL VERY
ARTICULATELY. I'D REALIZE THE
TIME IS PRESS TODAY I'M HERE TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE WE DO SPONSOR
AND SUPPORT THIS BILL.
Q. OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
RIGHT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
IS THERE ONLY ONE WITNESS IN
OPPOSITION THAT WILL BE AT THE
TABLE. GO AHEAD YOU MAY THINK
THAT SEEMED.
OKAY.
LORI MURRAY WHISKEY FLOP.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ON
COMMON LAW.
.
I'VE BEEN ASKED TO COME IN TO
TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF THE ACLU
CALIFORNIA WHICH IS OPPOSED TO
THIS BILL.
.
JUST LAST WEEK OF.
THE OBAMA FOUNDATION NAME ME
AMONG THEIR INAUGURAL CLASS OF.
FELLOWS.
AND THE REASON THEY DID THAT IS
BECAUSE IN CALIFORNIA WE ARE.
MOVING THINGS IN A DIFFERENT
DIRECTION WHEN IT COMES OF
PEOPLE CONVICTED OF SERIOUS
CRIMES.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A
POSSIBILITY TO TRANSFORM ONE'S
LIFE.
AND GET.
ONCE OF OUT OF PRISON.
AND.
OVER THE YEARS.
THE COURTS HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT
THE PAROLE BOARD NEEDED TO
CHANGE ITS WAYS AND AND THE
GOVERNOR ALSO.
.
THIS A MORE FOR US. OF INSIDE
AND REMORSE HAS.
REALLY REPLACE THE PRO ABORTS.
PREVIOUS STYLE FAVORITE REASON
FOR DENYING PAROLE WHICH WAS.
THE HEINOUS NATURE OF THE CRIME
WHICH IS TRULY BEEN THE THE
FEATURE OF.
THOSE AND IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL.
.
AND WHEN THE COURT SAID WELL YOU
KNOW. WE KNEW WHAT THE CRIME WAS
ONLY SINCE THIS PERSON TO LIVE
WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE
SO YOU PRO BOARD AND GOVERNOR
HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING
ELSE SOMETHING. NEW.
.
AND WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH WAS
INSIDE IN REMORSE.
OF THE IDEA THAT WELL IF WE CAN
SAY THAT.
THEN THEY'LL SHOW SOME REASONS I
THIS PERSON PAROLE. AND SO I'VE
I'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS ISSUE
FOR ABOUT NINETEEN YEARS NOW.
I'VE REPRESENTED HUNDREDS OF
PEOPLE IN PAROLE HEARINGS
THOUSANDS IN LITIGATION. ABOUT
THE PAROLE BOARD'S DECISION THE
GOVERNOR'S DECISION.
AND.
.
I ALSO TEACH A CLASS ON PRISONS
AND DISCRETIONARY PAROLE AT THE
UC BERKELEY SCHOOL LAW. SO I I
KNOW THIS AREA A LITTLE BIT.
AND WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THERE
IS ZERO EVIDENCE.
THAT CONNECTS INSIDE REMORSE TO
ONE'S RISK OF FUTURE VIOLENCE.
ZERO.
BUT THIS THIS. PROXY FOR.
THAT THE THAT WORLD WAR THE
GOVERNOR'S HAVE BEEN.
USING.
IS AS BEEN USED IN EVERY SINGLE
CASE THAT THEY DENY PAROLE.
THE THE. THE.
.
SCENARIOS THAT YOU HEAR
DESCRIBED WHERE SOMEONE HAS
TAKEN. A POSITION THAT'S AT ODDS
WITH THE OFFICIAL RECORD WOULD
HAPPEN THE CRIME THE PAROLE
BOARD OR THE GOVERNOR. OR BOTH.
WILL FIND THAT PERSON LACKS
INSIDE DENY PAROLE.
.
THIS LAW DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING
EXCEPT FOR CODIFIES THIS THIS.
WHAT'S.
AS I MENTIONED IN A MORE FOR US
BUT ALSO COMPLETELY DISCONNECTED
FROM RISK ASSESSMENT THERE'S NO
SCIENTIFIC BASIS.
RELYING ON ON.
INSIDE OF REMORSE
TO DENY PAROLE YET THE PAROLE
BOARD DOES IT.
AND ABOUT THREE OUT OF EVERY FOR
CASES THAT THEY CONSIDER. EVERY
SINGLE PERSON DENIED PAROLE YOU
CAN PULL THE TRANSCRIPTION YOU
CAN CONFIRM THIS.
THE FINAL ACCIDENT LACKS INSIDE
OF REMORSE EVEN THOUGH DOESN'T
ACTUALLY RELATE TO RISK
ASSESSMENT OF AND FOR THIS
REASON THAT THIS THIS LAWS.
IS MOVING CALIFORNIA IN THE
WRONG DIRECTION.
OF THE WAY THINGS WERE TWENTY
YEARS AGO.
WE'VE PROGRESS CONSIDERABLY AND
I THINK OF THIS BILL GOES AROUND
ERECTION LETTER URGING OPAL.
THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES.
IN OPPOSITION.
INCOME TO THEIR.
STANDING LIKE.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS TO BE
THERE WITH THE AND JUSTICE
COALITION AND STRONGLY
OPPOSITION.
ANNOUNCER HERNANDEZ ON BEHALF
THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS FOR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN OPPOSITION.
COLBY LANDRUM HALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA COALITION FOR WOMEN
PRISONERS WORKING WITH WOMEN
LIFERS STRONGLY OPPOSE.
DENNIS FLYNN WITH CARES FOR
YOUTH AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE.
AT LEAST BE AREA WHAT STATEWIDE
ORGANIZATION SURVIVE AND PUNISH
WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
JILLIAN SHEAR FOUNDER OF FAT
FELONY MURDER ELIMINATION
PROJECT AND WE STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL.
JERRY SILVA FAIR CHANCE PROJECT
IN FAMILIES UNITED TO END EL
WALK IN VERY STRONG OPPOSITION
TO THIS BILL.
CHRISTINA MENDOZA A FAMILIES
UNITED'S AND ALOT STRONGLY
OPPOSING THIS BILL.
CAN WE GO FROM THE JUSTICE
COALITION WERE IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO SPIN.
RIGHT ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN.
.
OPPOSITION.
BRACO MEMBERS.
SENATOR SNOWE.
IF YOUR MANAGER'S CENTER NEWMAN
ABOUT.
.
APPRECIATE YOU YOU BRING IN THE
BILL FORWARD AND.
WHILE WE'RE HERE WE HEARD FROM
THE OPPOSITION THAT. THERE IS A
NOT A NEXUS TO.
RECIDIVISM BASICALLY IF
SOMEBODY IS.
SHOWING REMORSE IS DEMONSTRATED
POSITIVE ACTIVITIES FURTHERING
EDUCATION AND AND PRISON TO
HOPEFULLY PREPARE THE FOR CRYING
OUT.
.
I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT. IS
REALLY THE THE CASE I DIDN'T
KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY LITERATURE
TO TO.
TO COUNTER THAT THAT CLAIM IT
JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT.
IF SOMEBODY IS IN PRISON FOR
LIFE AND THEY'RE SHOWING AN.
EARNEST ATTEMPT AND SOMETIMES
WHEN THEY GET IN THERE THERE
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REMORSE.
AND THEN. YOU KNOW MANY TIMES
THEY START READING THE BIBLE AND
BECOME RELIGIOUS AND REALIZE
THAT THE THE CRIMES THEY
COMMITTED WERE.
HEINOUS SIN AND WANT FORGIVENESS
AND BECOME MODEL CITIZENS AND
AND AND PRESIDENT AND.
YOUR BILL JUST BASICALLY SAYS
THAT THE FALL OF THE CERTAIN
STEPS IF WE'RE GONNA BE GRANTING
YOU PAROLE WHAT IS NOTHING IS
FOOLPROOF BUT.
HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU SAY THIS
REQUIRED FOR SOMEBODY TO
DEMONSTRATE A PATTERN OF?
SOME WHITE OF REHABILITATION
BEFORE THEY THEY GET RELEASE AND
TO DO WE HAVE ANY LITERATURE TO
COUNTER THAT THE CLAIMS BY THE
OPPOSITION THAT THE.
THE CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR HAS NO.
BASIS FOR THE OUTCOME OF THEM
NOT CONTINUING TO BE CRIMINALS
OUTSIDE OF PRESIDENT. RABIN DAY
AND THANK YOU CENTERS DON'T SHOW
A VALID MISTER LEVEL SPEAK TO
THE STATISTIS.
BUT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT. THAT
THERE IS SOME LEVEL OF
SUBJECTIVITY THAT IS INTRINSIC
TO THE PAROLE PROCESS NO MATTER
WHAT WE DO.
DIE I WOULD ARGUE.
DEAD THIS PRIMER IS NOT A MORE
FACE BUT IT IS TO SOME EXTENT
SUBJECTIVE BUT THAT IS ALSO I
THINK APPROPRIATE.
TO YOUR QUESTION AT HOW LONG IT
TAKES TO SHOW REMORSE BAD THAT
IS AGAIN A SUBJECTIVE QUESTION
BUT YOU WILL NOT BE GRANTED THE
PAROLE HEARING TO YOU'VE.
ACTUALLY SERVICE EFFICIENT
PROPORTION OF YOUR LIFE SENTENCE
ANYHOW. I ANALYST MISTER LEVEL
TALK INSTITUCIONES SURE
DIVISION.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A JUST AS
A QUICK FOLLOW UP?
WHAT THE PAROLE BOARD LOOKS TO
DO AND WHAT GOVERNOR BROWN HAS
DONE IN THOSE ABERRATIONAL CASES
AND THAT'S GOVERNOR BROWN'S
DETERMINATION NOT?
IS YOU WANT TO DETERMINE.
IF THE INMATE HAS CLOSE TO THE
CHAPTER OF HIS OR HER
CRIMINALITY.
AND THE WAY YOU DO THAT IS YOU
ASK THE INMATE ABOUT THE NATURE
OF THE CRIME.
YOU ASK THEM ABOUT HIS OR HER
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CRIME YOU
DETERMINE WHETHER THEY HAVE
REMORSE.
AND YOU DETERMINE WHETHER THEY
HAVE INSIGHT INTO THE CRIME
WHICH IS AN ANALYSIS OF. WHO WAS
IMPACTED BY YOUR CRIME HOW HAVE
YOU CLOSE THIS IN THEM THAT'S
LINKED?
TO OTHER THINGS YOU WOULD HAVE
DONE IN PRISON HAVE YOU BEEN
RELATIVELY DISCIPLINE FREE. HAVE
YOU. DONE THINGS PROGRAMS TO
HELP TURN YOUR LIFE AROUND TO
GET RID OF TRIGGERS.
DO YOU HAVE REALISTIC PAROLE
PLANS.
AND DO YOU HAVE A RELAPSE
STRATEGIES IN PLACE TO AVOID
TRIGGERS.
AND THOSE ARE ALL OF THE THINGS
THAT ARE GONE THROUGH NOW.
THAT EXERCISE I THINK HAS
DEMONSTRATED THAT IT IS A
SUCCESSFUL DISCIPLINE FOR DOING
THIS BECAUSE THE RECIDIVISM
RATE.
OF PERSONS WHO COMMIT MURDER AND
ARE PAROLED.
IS INFINITE TAXABLE.
ARE I THINK IT IS LESS THAN
THREE PERCENT MAYBE EVEN LOWER
THAN THAT.
SO THIS IS A DISCIPLINE THAT IS
PROVEN IN TIME. AND IN FACT THE.
PAROLE BOARD GOES THROUGH THIS
THE.
DYSFUNCTIONAL CASES THAT CAME
TO OUR ATTENTION THAT IT'S
CALLED A STICKER LOW I'M SORRY
THE QUESTION WAS.
DATA OR RESEARCH SO I THINK.
THE DATA ARE NOT HAVE OTHER AS
CITATIONS ON SPECIFIC DATA I
THINK WHEN YOU AND YOUR WE HAVE
OKAY QUE THAT'S VERY.
WELL THANK YOU
TRIVIA ANSWERS AND.
PORTS FOR YOUR BILL.
SENATOR BRADFORD THAT'S I. DON'T
THINK AUTHOR FOR THIS BILLS WELL
BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS AS IT
RELATES TO.
ONE EXPRESSION REAL REMORSE.
ALL.
WHAT SHOULD ONE XPRESSBET
WRONGLY WRONGFULLY WRONGFULLY
CONVICTED?
S. I WHAT POINT DO YOU SHOW
REMORSE RICHARD THAT IS VERY OF
ONE IS WRONGLY CONVICTED THAT
THERE IS NO PREJUDICE THAT WOULD
BE APPLIED. A IN THIS INSTANCE
TO A VERY BIG SOMEBODY A.
BEING CONSIDERED FOR PAROLE WHO
STILL ASSERTS THE FACTS OF THEIR
INITIATIVES JERRY CHOI I THINK
THAT'S COVERED. IN THE CIVIC WE
IN THE BILL IT SPECIFICALLY IN
THE BILL SENATE REFERENCE. GUIDE
TO DO IT YOU KNOW IN.
OTHER INSTANCES IT'S IT'S VERY
DAY SINCERE EXPRESSION OF
REMORSE. AT AGAIN I I WILL NOT
DISAGREE WITH THE ACLU DIED
THERE'S YOUR LEVELS OF
SUBJECTIVITY THAT IS ENTAILED.
BAD AND I AGREE IT'S IMPORTANT
MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT DID
THAT IS NOT USED AS AN EXCUSE. A
PRIORITY THAT TO DENY PEOPLE
PAROLE BUT IT DOES SEEM
NECESSARY.
OF WE ARE TO EXAMINE.
THE CURRENT SITUATION THE
INMATE.
WITH A IN AYE ON THERE THE
APPROPRIATE SUPPORT ALL THE
TIME.
OKAY OUR AND I I AGREE AM BUT I
AGAIN I THINK AS YOU STATED
GROUPS UP. YUP SUBJECTIVITY AND
I THINK SOMETIMES.
I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE AND
THE PERSON PRINCE PRISON
INSTITUTIONS PRESSURE THOSE OUT.
A WERE IN CHARGE OF INMATES
SOMETIMES WE LOCK FOLKS UP
SIMPLY BECAUSE WE'RE MATT AND.
THAT IN AND OF ITSELF SHOULDN'T
BE THE REASON BECAUSE WE'RE MAD
AT.
INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY SHOULD BE
DENIED.
A PAROLE ARE BEING RELEASED
SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE
EXPRESSED A DEGREE OF REMORSE OR
MOTION THAT WE THINK THEY SHOULD
AND I APPRECIATE THAT WHAT WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS VERY
NARROW THURSDAY CASES STARTER
THE CHAIR I APOLOGIZE. THAT I'D
BE GOOD SPEED THIS IS ABOUT.
PRISONERS SERVING LIFE
SENTENCES IN RUSSIA BECAUSE OF A
PAROLE.
IN WHICH IT IT HAS BEEN
DETERMINED WITH SOME FINALITY
THAT THEY ARE GUILTY ANSWER THE
QUESTION HERE IF THEY'RE STILL
ASSERTING THEIR INNOCENCE AGAIN
NO PRICE APPLIED. AB TO THE
EXTENT THAT THEY ARE NOT.
DID IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THEY
DO NOT MINIMIZE THEIR ACTIONS
THE AND THAT THE EXPRESSION
AWARENESS OF THE.
RIGHT WING AND NO OTHER.
MEMBERS WISHING TO DISCUSS IS
THERE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
RIGHT SO TE MOTION IS.
I.
THE PAST TWO APPROPRIATIONS.
IN THE.
WHILE WE ARE NOT TAKING
AMENDMENTS IN THE COMMITTEE THE
COMMITTEE STAFF DID WORK WITH
THE AUTHOR TO. ON.
CLARIFY CERTAIN THINGS IN THE
BILL.
SO WE WILL HAVE A ROLL CALL OF.
SKINNER.
I SKINNER AYE ANDERSON AYE
ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD.
JACKSON.
MITCHELL.
STONE.
STONE AYE WIENER.
WIENER AYE.
THE BILL IS ON CALL AND.
.
WE'LL HAVE WILL BRING IT UP
AGAIN WHEN I HAVE MY OTHER
MEMBER THANK YOU MADAM. OKAY
THANKS SO MUCH SO WE WILL NOW GO
TO.
.
I'M GOING TO HAND TO THEM MIKE
TO MISTER ANDERSON BECAUSE I
NEED TO PRESENTED ANOTHER
COMMITTEE BUT I BELIEVE WE'RE
GONNA GO TO MISTER WILK. ITEM
FOR S. B. TEN TWENTY FLOORS
MISTER WELK HERE YES.
OKAY.
ONE SECOND.
SENATE WELL THERE IF YOU LIKE MY
GOD RECENTLY NINE.
S. B..
ONE ZERO TO CREATE. HERE THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION I HAVE
BEFORE YOU S. B.. TEN TWENTY
FOUR WHICH BRINGS CHANGES TO
CALIFORNIA'S HANDLING OF ANIMAL
ABUSE OFFENDERS.
I WILL BE TAKING EIGHT IN THE
NIGHT AMENDMENTS RECOMMENDED BY
COMMITTEE STAFF LIMITING THIS
BILL'S PROVISIONS TO THOSE
OFFENDERS GRANTED PROBATION AS A
PART OF THEIR SENDS.
MAKING CHANGES TO THE FEE
STRUCTURE AND TIMING
REQUIREMENTS TO ADDRESS
CONCERNS.
RAISED IN THE ANALYSIS.
HOWEVER OF THE NINE PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS WHICH CHANGES THE
MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION FOR
MANDATORY OPTIONAL. I FEEL THAT
IS CONTRARY TO OUR GOAL IN I'LL
BE DECLINING THAT AMENDMENT
AT-THIS TIME.
WHILE ACCEPTING ALL OTHER
SUGGESTED COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
ADDITIONALLY SENATOR BELL WILL
BE ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR OF THIS
IMPORTANT LEGISLATION.
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL DECADES
STUDY AFTER STUDY HAS SUPPORTED
THE FACT THAT THERE EXISTS AN
UNDENIABLE WINK BETWEEN ANIMAL
ABUSE AND VIOLENCE TOWARDS
PEOPLE.
WE KNOW THAT SEVENTY ONE PERCENT
OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OF VIOLENT
OFFENDERS HAVE ABUSED ANIMALS AT
SOME POINT. WE SEE THAT SEVENTY
PERCENT OF THE MOST VIOLENT
PRISON INMATES ALSO HAVE ANIMAL
ABUSE IN THEIR PERSONAL HISTORY.
AND SALLY WE KNOW. THAT ALMOST
NINETY PERCENT OF MASS SHOOTING
SUSPECTS HAVE PERPETRATED ABUSE
ON ANIMALS.
WE KNOW ALL OF THIS YET
CURRENTLY WE'RE NOT UTILIZING
THIS KNOWLEDGE FOR POSITIVE
CHANGE.
S. B. TEND TWENTY FOUR WILL
ALLOW US TO DIRECT THE MOST
SERIOUS.
ANIMAL ABUSE OFFENDERS INTO
MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS AND
TREATMENT SO THEY CAN IDENTIFY
AND ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING CAUSE
OF THEIR VIOLENT BEHAVIOR. AND
BEGIN TO WEAKEN THE LINK BETWEEN
ANIMAL CRUELTY AND TRAGIC ACTS
OF VIOLENCE COMMITTED LATER BY
MANY OF THE SAME OFFENDERS DOWN
THE ROAD.
ADDITIONALLY THIS BILL WILL
EMPLOYMENT A MANDATORY ANIMAL
OWNER EDUCATION COURSE INSURE
ANIMAL ABUSE OF OFFENSES ROOTED
IN IGNORANCE ARE NOT. REPEATED.
WE'VE READ THE DATA.
WE SEEN ALL THE ANECDOTAL PROOF
IN OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
SHELTERS OUR SCHOOLS AND ON THE
NIGHTLY NEWS. WE KNOW THE LINK
BETWEEN ANIMAL VIOLENCE AND
FUTURE BY US WORSE PEOPLE IS
STRONG.
BUT IT ISN'T UNBREAKABLE.
S. B. TEN TWENTY FOUR IS A BIG
STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
TEACHER CALIFORNIA'S CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM IS BEING
ADEQUATELY UTILIZED AS A
MECHANISM OF INTERVENTION AND
REHABILITATION. IN THE AREA OF
ANIMAL ABUSE OFFENDERS.
CARLY SIMON TO MENTAL HEALTH
COUNSELLING IS LIMITED TO ONE
ANIMAL ABUSE CODE SECTION AND
THERE'S NO PROVISION STATUTE
ALLOWING FOR ANY EDUCATION. FOR
THESE OFFENDERS
THIS BILL WILL EXPAND THE EVIL
WAYS UTILIZATION OF MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT FOR THOSE
OFFENDERS.
EIGHT ANIMAL ABUSE CODE SECTIONS
IT WILL IMPLEMENT A FIRST OF ITS
KIND EDUCATION PROGRAM FOR
ANIMAL ABUSERS.
WITH ME TODAY.
I HAVE A LEAN A A NOW LOW FROM
THE ANIMAL LEAGUE DEFENSE FUND
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT.
I HAD.
MY NAME IS ALINA LOW AND I'M
HERE ON BEHALF O THE ANIMAL
LEGAL DEFENSE FUND AND OUR
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND MEMBERS IN
CALIFORNIA.
PORTER SENATE BILL ONE OUT TO
FOR.
I MYSELF LIVE AND KENSINGTON
CALIFORNIA IN THE SENATOR
SKINNER'S DISTRICT.
WE WANT TO THANK SENATOR WELK
FOR INTRODUCING THIS IMPORTANT
PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND.
.
THE CHAIR FOR HEARING THIS BILL
TODAY.
AS SENATOR WILK STATED THERE
HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS STUDIES ABOUT
THE LINK BETWEEN VIOLENCE TO
PEOPLE AND VIOLENCE TO ANIMALS.
THE MOST LINKED AREAS OF ABUSE.
OUR ANIMAL ABUSE CHILD ABUSE AND
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
ALL CRIMES IT WAS VULNERABLE
VICTIMS AND OFFENDERS WHO HAVE A
NEED FOR POWER AND CONTROL.
FOR INSTANCE SEVENTY PERCENT OF
WOMEN IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
SHELTERS REPORT THAT THERE OF
YOU THERE IS FOR AND TO KILL OR
HARM THEIR ANIMAL. AND SIXTY
PERCENTREPORT THAT THE ABUSER
WENT THROUGH IT.
IN ADDITION CALIFORNIA
RECOGNIZES THAT ANIMAL CRUELTY
IS WRONG ON ITS OWN.
THE CURRENT DIAGNOSTIC AND
STATISTICAL MANUAL OF MENTAL
DISORDERS INCLUDE ANIMAL ABUSE
THAT RETURN HIM FOR DIAGNOSIS
DIAGNOSES OF. MENTAL HEALTH
CONDITIONS INCLUDING ANTISOCIAL
PERSONALITY DISORDER AND CONDUCT
DISORDER.
EVEN ONE NO UNDERLYING MENTAL
HEALTH CONDITION OF PRESIDENT.
INTERVIEW THEIR CAN BENEFIT FROM
INCREASED EMPATHY.
CALIFORNIA HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO TAKE ACTION IN ORDER TO
PROTECT THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW
FROM FUTURE ACTS OF VIOLENCE
AGAINST ANIMALS AND PEOPLE.
WITH THAT I WANT TO REITERATE
FAILURE OF STRONG SUPPORT FOR
THE SPELL. AND THINK SENATOR
WILK.
OUR FRIENDS IN THE ANIMAL
WELFARE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
COMMUNITIES.
FOR JOINING US IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL. AND URGED THE MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE TO DO THE SAME
WITH YOUR AYE VOTE TODAY.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
IF OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
IF YOU.
JONATHAN WILLIAMS WERE
CALIFORNIA POLICE ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT.
DOESN'T MATTER NOT LIGHTHOUSE
PUBLIC AFFAIRS HERE ON BEHALF OF
SOCIAL COMPASSION IN LEGISLATION
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
JIM JONES HOLD WITH BOB PROJECT
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
DO WE HAVE A WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
TO JUST HAVE THE ONE ARE AS ARE
OTHERS GOING TO SPEAK.
OKAY.
GOOD MORNING NATASHA MINSKER ON
BEHALF OF THE ACLU OF
CALIFORNIA.
REGRETTABLY WE DO REMAIN OPPOSED
TO THE BILL WE APPRECIATE THAT
IT HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY
IMPROVED. BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE
FACT THAT THE BILL CONTINUES TO
CONTAIN THE MANDATORY MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT COMPONENT FOR
PEOPLE BASED ON PROBATION. IT
CONTINUES TO BE AN ELEMENT THAT
WE MUST OPPOSE. THERE ARE LIMITS
TO THE CONDITIONS THAT CAN BE
IMPOSED ON PROBATION THE
LEGISLATURE AND THE COURT DO NOT
HAVE FREE REIGN TO IMPOSE ANY
KIND OF CONDITIONS AT ALL. THAT
SPECIFICALLY THE CONDITIONS NEED
TO BE RELATED TO THE OFFENSE AND
THERE NEEDS TO BE RESPECT FOR
THE DEFENDANTS PRIVACY. AND
ULTIMATELY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
THAT THE DECISION BE IN THE
HANDS OF THE JUDGE TO BE ABLE TO
TAILOR CONDITIONS TO SPECIFIC
CASES.
BUT THE FUNDAMENTAL FLAW HERE IS
THAT THIS BILL WOULD TAKE THE
AUTHORITY FOR IMPOSING
CONDITIONS OF PROBATION REGARDED
REALLY REGARDING MENTAL HEALTH.
FROM THE JUDGE AND HAND THAT
OVER TO A THERAPIST AND THAT IS
THE COMPONENT THERE REALLY
SIMPLY CANNOT MOVE FORWARD IT IS
VERY UNDERSTANDABLE TO ENCOURAGE
JUDGES. ARE TO CONSIDER MENTAL
HEALTH EVALUATIONS IN THESE
CASES EVEN TO REQUIRE JUDGES TO
CONSIDER MENTAL HEALTH
EVALUATION IN THESE CASES.
ULTIMATELY THOUGH THE JUDGE DOES
NEED TO RETAIN THE DISCRETION TO
DECIDE WHETHER IN THE CASE
BEFORE HER OR HIM WHETHER MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT IS APPROPRIATE.
AND THE JUDGE MUST RETAIN THE
AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER A
PERSON HAS WILLFULLY VIOLATED
ANY CONDITION OF PROBATION
WARRANTING PLACING NOT PERSON IN
CUSTODY. AND WE CONTINUE TO
BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE PROBLEMS
WITH THE BILL HAVE NOT A JAPAN
NOT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.
CURRENT LAW DOES ALREADY REQUIRE
FOR PEOPLE CONVICTED OF THE MOST
SERIOUS FORMS OF ANIMAL ABUSE
THAT THE JUDGE IN FACT CONSIDER
IN ORDER. MENTAL HEALTH
COUNSELLING AS APPROPRIATE AYE
THERE MAY BE ROOM TO EXPAND THAT
TO A WIDER RANGE OF ANIMAL
ABUSE.
STATUTES BUT MAKING IT MANDATORY
IN GIVING THE THERAPIST CONTROL
OVER THE COURSE OF TREATMENT AND
WHETHER SOMEONE IS.
COMPLYING WITH CONDITIONS OF
PROBATION AND IS A PROBLEM THAT
MAKES US CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THE
BILL.
OTHER.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
REGARDING GET THAT.
SINDRI ANDERSON
IF WE ARE TO.
IT WAS THE FIRST OKAY IN
OPPOSITION SO OKAY EXCELLENT ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
ALRIGHT OF.
MEMBERS DEBATE SENATOR MITCHELL.
BOTH COLLEGES OKAY RIGHT.
AND NONE.
SENATOR WIENER.
I. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR I I I'M
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BILL I I
DO.
I I.
.
SYMPATHETIC TO GIVING SIMPLEX
ABILITY TO JUDGES TO THIS TO.
WIRING THEM TO CONSIDER BUT NOT
MANDATING AN AUTOMATIC MENTAL
HEALTH EVALUATION AND WE HAVE
LIMITED. MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES
AND ALTHOUGH I.
PEOPLE TO WORK WITH ANIMALS OR.
.
THERE THEY CAN BE HORRIFIC HUMAN
BEINGS AND.
AND HAVE SOME OF REAL MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES BUT.
I JUST I'M A LITTLE
UNCOMFORTABLE TO.
NOT GIVING ANY DISCRETION.
THAT THE AND HAVING TO
AUTOMATICALLY GO EVEN IF IT'S A
WASTE OF RESOURCES.
AND SO I'M WONDER IF YOU'RE
OPEN TO. THE IDEA WOULD ALSO
PROBABLY REDUCE COST OF YOUR
BILL AND GOT THEIR VETERAN
APPROPRIATIONS.
I AM OPEN TO THAT I WOULD LIKE
TO REMIND YOU THAT THERE IS ONE
PROVISION RIGHT NOW I'M
MALICIOUS ABUSE OF ANIMALS IT IS
MANDATORY. TO SIGN THAT SO IT
AND MAYBE THIS IS TOO BROAD AND
MAY WE JUST NEED TO DO THE TOP
HERE ONCE I'M OPEN TO TAKING AND
TAKING A LOOK AT THAT.
I JUST FEEL THAT THE LINK IS SO
STRONG BETWEEN ABUSING ANIMALS.
AND LATER VIOLENCE AGAINST
PEOPLE THAT IF WE CAN REDIRECT
THOSE PEOPLE EARLY ON IN IN IN
INTERVENE THAT THAT WOULD BE
HELPFUL.
OKAY SOME LETTERS FOR YOU ARE
OPEN CURRENT WAS YEAH SO THE
AMENDMENT THAT.
COMMITTEE ASKED.
IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO TAKE
WHICH WE HAVEN'T LANDED YET BUT
WOULD WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU
WOULD TAKE. IS TO CLARIFY THAT
TO.
SPECIFYING THE LANGUAGE THAT THE
COURT.
.
SHALL CONSIDER.
DO YOU WANT A STRAIGHT YOU WANT
IS STRIKE SHALL SO BASICALLY WE
JUST BE OPTIONAL WHAT I'M SAYING
IT. WHEN I'M ACTUALLY.
NO THE ISSUE WAS NOW IT STATE
SHALL REQUIRE RIGHT INSTEAD
SHALL CONSIDER.
RIGHT WHAT I'M SAYING COULD YOU
WHAT BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE WANTS
TO DO THAT FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE
AND I'M SO I'M I'M NOT I'M NOT
COMFORTABLE WITH THAT I'D RATHER
LOSE LOSE THE BILL THEY DO THAT.
WHAT I'M SAYING TO SENATOR
WIENER IS THAT THOSE MOST AGREED
BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S LEVEL
THERE'S LEVELS OF ABUSE ON THE
MOST SERIOUS ONES?
I'M OPEN TED DID TO DOING THAT.
BEGIN FOR FOR COSTS AND AND
EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING ELSE
AND HAPPY SIT DOWN OFF LINE AND
HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ON
ON THAT. I'M I'M WOULD LIKE TO
MOVE THE BILL AND THEN IF
THERE'S THINGS WE NEED TO WORK
OUT FOR GOES TO FLOOR HAD WOULD
BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
.
THIS WAS WHAT WE WERE WORKING ON
OVER THE LAST WEEK SO TO.
.
IN.
MOVE IT NOW I WAS I WAS HOPEFUL
THAT COMMITTEE WAS TO BE MORE
SUPPORTIVE SINCE IT'S SUCH A
GOOD.
WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE. ARE VERY
SUPPORTIVE WITH SOME
FLEXIBILITY.
I SENATOR IS A. BRING OUT THE
BILL YEAH.
THE BILL AS I READ IT.
REQUIRES TAKING CLASSES.
BUT.
.
NORMALLY THAT PERSON WOULD NOT
HAVE A PET AGAIN.
AND.
SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOU KNOW
WHY. I'M TAKING A CLASS BUT I AM
PROHIBITED FROM HAVING THE PAT.
IT JUST.
YEAH WELL THAT THAT'S A GREAT
QUESTION IN AND I WOULD SAY THIS
JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A
PET DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NOT
GOING TO HAVE CONTACT.
CONTACT THE YOU KNOW WITH OTHER
ANIMALS OR OTHER PETS IN FACT AT
SENATOR JACKSON IN WHICH SHE WAS
HERE SHE HAD A VERY AGREE JUST
CASE IN HER DISTRICT BACK IN
TWENTY FIFTEEN. BOYFRIEND AND.
ABUSED.
THE GIRLFRIENDS PAT AND THEN
ALSO.
.
YOU ACTED YOU KNOW ABOUT A WAY
TOWARDS HER THEY GOT IT GOT A
LOT OF LOCAL COVERAGE SO IT JUST
BECAUSE YOU'RE BANNED FROM
HAVING A PET DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE
NOT TO BE INTERACTING. WITH WITH
ANIMALS.
THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT.
BUT OBJECT TO MOVE THE BILL.
ALRIGHT SO WE HAVE A MOTION I
WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE BILL
MY THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH
YOUR STAFF FOR A GOOD THREE
WEEKS NO. WE EVEN HELD THE BILL
OVER HOPING THAT WE COULD GET ON
TO LANGUAGE THAT WOULD.
.
ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE
BEEN EXPRESSED TODAY. I FELT.
THANK GOD CHAIR CHAIRMAN I WOULD
LIKE TO SAY THAT YOUR DAD THE
STAFF'S BEEN GREAT AND THEY'VE
BEEN REALLY GAUGE ON THIS BILL
WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THEIR
EFFORTS.
OKAY.
GREAT.
.
RIGHT SO WE WILL HAVE A ROLL
CALL. ON. POLITICS YES GO AHEAD
AND HERE IT IS THE CHAIR MAKING
A RECOMMENDATION OR SIMPLY
VOTING CHAIR IS THE CHAIR AND
HER STAFF HAVE WORKED WITH THE
AUTHOR FOR THREE WEEKS NOW.
I TRY TO LAND ON AMENDMENTS THAT
AND AS THE AUTHORS INDICATED THE
STAFF WERE ON.
VERY HELPFUL BUT I D. AUTHOR WAS
NOT WILLING TO TAKE THE
AMENDMENT THAT SO. OKAY IT'S
HATE WE ALL HAVE THAT
PREROGATIVE.
BUT.
I AM NOT SUPPORTING THE BILL IN
ITS CURRENT FORM.
SO WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
NOT EVEN CLOSE. RIGHT YES THAT
IT WILL BE CLOSE.
GO AHEAD AGAIN THING AT THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR. ANIMAL ANIMAL
ABUSE IS THE FIRST ACT OF
VIOLENCE COMMITTED BY TROUBLED
INDIVIDUAL IT IS TYPICAL THAT
THE FAMILY PET BE THE TARGET OF
VIOLENCE BEFORE THE BY THE KIDS.
AND THE GREATER COMMUNITY FOR
THAT REASON IT IS IMPERATIVE
THAT WE DO SOMETHING TO
INTERVENE AT THE EARLY STAGE
BEFORE THE VICTIM COUNT RISES.
S. B. TEN TWENTY FOUR ONE NOT
STOP ALL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IT
WILL BRING AN END TO SCHOOL
SHOOTINGS OR SERIAL MURDERS.
IT WON'T PREVENT ALL TRAGEDIES
PERPETRATED BY FENDERS WHO ALSO
ABUSED ANIMALS.
BUT IF WE CAN USE OUR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM AS AN
INTERVENTION POINT. IF WE CAN
CATCH THOSE OFFENDERS WHO CAN BE
EFFECTIVELY TREATED FOR MENTAL
HEALTH AREA ISSUES EARLY THEN
MAYBE WE CAN PREVENT JUST ONE.
ONE WOMAN FROM BEING BEATEN ONE
CHILD FROM BEING ABUSED ONE
SCHOOL FROM BEING THE SITE OF
TRAGEDY. Y. NO WE CAN PREVENT
MUCH MORE WITH THIS LEGISLATION
IN THIS CASE JUST ONE IS GOOD
ENOUGH.
CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN A LEADER
TIME AGAIN IN THE REALM OF
PUBLIC POLICY TIME WE TAKE THE
LEAD AND RECOGNIZING ADDRESS A
GLARING FACT THAT WE'RE NOT
DOING ALL WE CAN DO ON THIS
IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND AGAIN I
THINK I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
AND ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE.
ALRIGHT SO WE HONOR GO AHEAD
HIGHLIGHTED WHEN I'M.
I'M GONNA GO TRY TO MOVE THIS%
FORWARD BECAUSE IT IS AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE AND WILL WORK ON
I'M TAKING AYE I KNOW YOU'VE
ALWAYS BEEN VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD
WITH ME SO I KNOW THIS'LL BE.
WORKED OUT I APPRECIATE THE
THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE I
SPEND TIME TO WORK.
THROUGH THESE ISSUES SO THANK
YOU.
ALRIGHT DO A ROLL CALL.
Q. PASSES AMENDED TO APPROACH.
YOU KNOW AS AMENDED.
OKAY SUMMONED.
OKAY OUT IT NOT OVER HERE ON THE
HOME NOT A WORRY OKAY GO AHEAD
SKINNER.
NO
NO ANDERSON AYE ANDERSON AYE
BRADFORD.
JACKSON MITCHELL ALL AYE
MITCHELL AYE STONE.
WIENER.
WIENER AYE.
SO THERE'S BEEN PILLOWS ON CALL
AND.
WE WILL RETURN TO IT WHEN ARE
WE HAVE OUR OTHER FOLKS BACK.
.
HER.
YEAH EARNED WE WILL GO TO.
YES SENATOR WHAT YOU HAVE A
SECOND BILL YEAH YEAH.
THIS ONE HOPES MORE FIVE
.
GOOD. ALRIGHT THANK YOU AMOUNT
SHARE MEMBERS BEFORE YOU TODAY I
HAVE S. B. FORTINO NINE. BEFORE
I BEGIN THE PRESENTATION WANT TO
COMMIT TO THE CHAIR THAT I'LL BE
ADDRESSING AND AMENDING THE OPT
OUT PROVISION THE BILL TO
APPEASE.
YOUR CONCERNS IT'S NOT THE
SPONSORS NOR MY INTENTION TO ADD
PROHIBITIVE MESSER MEASURES TO
THE CULTIVATION OF HIM.
MY STAFF WILL WORK WITH
COMMITTEE STAFF AND HAVE THE
BILL AMENDED TO NARROW THE LOCAL
OPT OUT PROVISION.
THIS MEASURE WILL UPDATE CURRENT
LAW TO STREAMLINE THE PRODUCTION
CULTIVATION OF INDUSTRIAL HEMP
IN CALIFORNIA YA CALIFORNIA
FARMERS TO GROW IT PRODUCE NON
INTOXICATING HIM SEED. OIL
FIBER.
AND EXTRA AND EXTRACT FOR
COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES.
WITH OVER THIRTY OTHER NATIONS
IN NINETEEN STATES IN THE U. S.
CURRENTLY GROWING INDUSTRIAL
HEMP.
AND WITH CALIFORNIA REPRESENTING
THE LARGEST CONSUMER MARKET FOR
HIM MATERIALS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY POSITION TAKE
TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A GREAT
OPPORTUNITY.
INDUSTRIAL HEMP IS AN
AGRICULTURAL CROP THAT IS GROWN
AND PROCESSED.
THROUGHOUT THE WORLD FOR
THOUSANDS OF CONSUMER AND FOOD
PRODUCTS THE PLANTS FIBERS ARE
AMONG THE STRONGEST NATURAL
FIBERS IN THE WORLD AND CAN BE
USED TO REPLACE WHAT FOR
CONSTRUCTION. PAPER PULP AND
EVEN USING CONCRETE PRODUCTION
FOR OUR ROADS AND HIGHWAYS AND
ALSO IN A NOTE NOTE. THAT HIM
CREED ALSO SEQUESTERS CARBON.
THE SEED OIL I HIGHLY
NUTRITIOUS AND REPLACES ARTERY
CLOGGING TRANS FATS WITH HEALTHY
ESSENTIAL FATS NECESSARY FOR
BALANCED NUTRITION.
ON TOP OF THE MANY MODERNUSES
OF INDUSTRIAL HEMP THAT BENEFITS
FOR FARMERS ARE NOT ONLY
FINANCIAL.
BUT ALSO PRACTICAL. CALIFORNIAS
NO STRANGER TO DROUGHT IN THE
WATER CONSERVATION VALUE GROWING
INDUSTRIAL HEMP IS REMARKABLE
HEMP CROPS REQUIRE LESS WATER
AND AGRICULTURAL CHEMICALS IN
THEM MANY OTHER CROPS CURRENTLY
IN ROTATION ON OUR FARMS. AND
HAS DEEP ROOTS ROOTS THAT LEAVE
THE SOIL EXCELLENT CONDITION FOR
THE NEXT YEAR.
MY DISTRICT FOR EXAMPLE A RECENT
WATER ADJUDICATION IN ALFALFA
WILL HIT THE AGRICULTURAL
COMMUNITY THE HARDEST.
THAT THE AB HISTORICALLY WAS A
LARGE AGRICULTURAL AREA GROWING
ALFALFA CARROTS ONIONS PEACHES
IN ORCHARD CROPS.
THE REASON EDUCATION WILL REDUCE
GROUNDWATER PUMPING FOR FARMERS
BY CLOSE TO FIFTY PERCENT.
FROM WHAT THEY DO NOW. FARMERS
ARE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES AND
INDUSTRIAL HEMP FITS THE MOLD
AND MAKES MOST SENSE. FOR
CONTEXT ALFALFA CURLY THE NUMBER
ONE CROP IN THE REGION.
NEED SEVEN ACRE FEET OF WATER TO
PRODUCE ONE ACRE OF CROP HIP
USES LESS INTO FEET. ACRE FOOT
PER ACRE THE SAVINGS IS A MANSON
ALLOW OUR FARMERS TO REMAIN ARE
IN IN THE FARMING INDUSTRY.
AT ONE POINT CALIFORNIA WAS
ACTUALLY WELL POSITIONED IN THE
INTERNATIONAL HEMP WORLD WHEN IT
ENACTED S. B. FIVE SIX SIX.
BY SENATOR LENO BACK IN TWENTY
THIRTEEN WHICH ESTABLISH AN
INDUSTRIAL HEMP FARMING PILOT
PROGRAM UPON FEDERAL
AUTHORIZATION.
THE FEDERAL AUTHORIZATION CAME
IN TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN WHEN
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
AUTHORIZED INDUSTRIAL HIP
RESEARCH IN STATES WHICH HAVE
PASSED LEGISLATION AUTHORIZING
STATE DEPARTMENTS OF
AGRICULTURE.
TO ESTABLISH PILOT PROGRAMS AT
INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION
TO CONDUCT CULTIVATION FOR
RESEARCH.
UNFORTUNATELY PROP SIXTY FOUR
CONTAIN PROVISIONS THAT
ESSENTIALLY AND DID MUCH THE
PROGRESS MADE UNDER S. B. FIVE
SIX SIX BY EXPANDING THE
DEFINITION OF INDUSTRIAL HEMP.
IN LARGE PART FAILING TO
DIFFERENTIATE IT FROM ITS
PSYCHOACTIVE COUNTER PART
CANNABIS.
S. B. FORTINO NINE BRINGS
CALIFORNIA'S HIT LAWS UP TO DATE
BY ADDING PILOT PROGRAM STATUS
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
FOOD AND AGRICULTURE STAMP
PROGRAM. AS REQUIRED BY THE
FEDERAL AUTHORIZATION AND BY
BRINGING THE DEFINITION OF
INDUSTRIAL HEMP IN LINE WITH
REALITY.
SP FORTINO NINE ALLOW FARMERS
OPPORTUNITY TO A DIVERSE THEIR
FARM OPERATIONS CUT DOWN ON
WATER USE USAGE CREATE JOBS
ENSURE CALIFORNIA'S CONSISTENT
WITH FEDERAL LAW.
IN FACT OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL HAVE ALSO BEEN
WORK ON ESTABLISHING A
DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL
HEMP. THE AGRICULTURAL COMMODITY
IN CANNABIS AND REMOVING THE
FORMER FROM THE LIST OF
FEDERALLY CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES.
CALIFORNIA SHOULD NOT FALL
BEHIND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON
THIS ISSUE WE SHOULD IS ALWAYS
REMAIN A LEADER. I LOOK FORWARD
TO ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS IN
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE.
I HAVE WITH ME TODAY CHRIS
WILSON WITH.
HIGH ENERGETICS PATRICK.
GOGGIN REPRESENTING VOTE HIM.
WITNESSES
THE COURT PLEASE.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS PATRICK
GAWKING DOWN HERE ON BEHALF OF
VOTE HEMP UNFORTUNATELY THE
SENATOR JUST TOOK MOST OF MY
TALKING POINTS BUT.
THREE ITERATE WE'VE WE'VE BEEN
WORKING FOR YEARS ON.
INDUSTRIAL HEMP LEGISLATION TO
GET CULTIVATION GOING IN THIS.
STATE AND MAKE IT A REALITY AND
I'M VERY EXCITED THAT WE'RE
FINALLY GETTING THERE CALIFORNIA
WAS AHEAD OF THE CURVE. ON
INDUSTRIAL HEMP PUT IT ENACTED
SP FIVE SIX SIX.
SPONSORED BY SENATOR LENO IN TWO
THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN IS IT
ESTABLISHED HEMP FARMING PROGRAM
FOR FIVE OR OIL SEED ONLY.
AND THAT MEASURE WAS EFFECTIVE
ONLY ON FEDERAL L'AUTORISATION
WHICH CAME IN TWO THOUSAND
FOURTEEN WITH SUCH SECTION SEVEN
SIX OR SIX OF THE FARM BILL.
ALLOWING FOR PILOT PROGRAMS TO
PROCEED WITH IT IN STATES THAT
HAVE PASSED INDUSTRIAL HEMP
LEGISLATION THROUGH PILOT
PROGRAMS ANSWER INSTITUTIONS OF
HIGHER EDUCATION TO CONDUCT FOR
RESEARCH ONLY. IN TWO THOUSAND
SIX TEAM PROPOSITION SIXTY FOUR
PASSED WHICH REMOVED THE.
REQUIREMENT FOR FEDERAL
AUTHORISATION AND SP FIVE SIX
SIX AND IT SIGNIFICANTLY IT
ADDED EXTRACTS AND DERIVATIVES
TO THE DEFINITION OF INDUSTRIAL
HAPPENED STRUCK.
THIS PROHIBITION OF USE FROM
USING THE FLOWERS AND THE LEAVES
BUT THE.
UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T YET THE
DEPARTMENT DOESN'T YET HAVE
AUTHORITY TO DO PILOT PROGRAMS
WHAT SP FOURTEEN NO NINE DOES
IS.
BRINGS THE LAW UP TO DATE IT
ADDS THE PILOT PROGRAM AUTHORITY
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
AND IT REMOVES THIS FIVE OR OIL
SEED ONLY LIMITATION WHICH
CONFLICTS WITH THE INTENTION OF
PROP SIXTY FOUR. A AND AND WHICH
WHICH EXPANDED THE DEFINITION OF
FOUND TO INCLUDE EXTRACTS.
FROM THE NON PSYCHOACTIVE
FLOWERS AND LEAVES.
S. B. FORTINO NINE PROVIDES
VITAL CLEAN UP LEGISLATION THAT
WILL ALLOW CALIFORNIA FARMERS TO
ENTER THE INDUSTRIAL HEMP MARKET
AND MEET THE GROWING DEMANDS OF
U. S. IN CALIFORNIA HUMP.
PRODUCT COMPANIES AREN'T WE FOR
THESE REASONS WE URGE YOUR AYE
VOTE ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT BILL
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ON THE
LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN
INVOLVED IN THE DRAFTING OF
THAT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
NEXT WITNESS PLEASE.
MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE.
MY NAME'S CHRIS WILSON I'M HERE
THOUGH I ENERGETICS OJAI
ENERGIZES THE PROCESSING
MANUFACTURING COMPANY.
ON DEVELOPING HEMP BASED ON
MUTUAL SO NUTRITION SUPPLEMENTS
I AM INNOVATIVE HAVE A. BUILDING
MATERIALS AND.
EVEN SUPERCAPACITOR BATTERIES.
SOBRE LEADING THE WAY. ON
DIFFERENT AND TECHNOLOGIES I'M
MORE CALIFORNIA BASED BENEFIT
CORPORATION BUT UNFORTUNATELY
RIGHT NOW I WE HAD WERE FORCES
SOURCE OR HAM FROM COLORADO AND
OREGON.
DRIVING UP BUSINESS AND PRESS
TAX OCEANS STATE.
MANY OTHER COMPANIES LIKE
OURSELVES ARE FORCED OUT OF
STATE TO BE CLOSER TO HEMP
CULTIVATION.
ONE SUCH COMPANY ARM WHICH WAS
BASED IN CALIFORNIA.
IS CURRENTLY BUILDING A THIRTY
MILLION DOLLAR HAVE PROCESSING
FACILITY IN KENTUCKY
I WAS GONNA BE THE COUNTRY'S
LARGEST ONE LARGEST IN THE
WORLD.
.
WITH THE GROWING DEMAND FOR HEMP
I'M UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE
WORLD.
I FEEL IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT
CALIFORNIA.
IS THE LARGEST AGRICULTURAL
STATE IN THE COUNTRY IS LEADING
THE WAY ON HEMP CULTIVATION
PROCESS.
SO.
FOR THESE REASONS WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT OF THE PASSAGE OF SB
FOURTEEN ONLINE.
WE HAVE OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT IF IT WOULD MAKE THEIR
WAY TO THE MIKE THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING JASON BRYANT AND
HAVE TO THE CALIFORNIA GROWERS
ASSOCIATION WE THINK THIS BILL
STRIKES THE RIGHT BALANCE BY
HELPING INDUSTRIAL HEMP
INDUSTRY.
THRIVE IN THE STATE WHILE ALSO
PROTECTING. CANNABIS CULTIVATORS
IN CALIFORNIA WHO ARE
TRANSITIONING DEREGULATED
MARKETPLACE WERE VERY BLACK
APPARATUS SPORT TO BUILD THANK
YOU OFTEN SPONSORS THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
HEARING LEGGETT AND NINE AMEND
TOTAL OPPOSITION THEIRS OR
ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA HURT OUR
CHILDREN.
TOO MANY KIDS HAVE DIED BECAUSE
OF THE SANDERS THREE AND NEEDS
TO STOP.
WE NEED TO HOLD. THIS
LEGISLATION AS A PUBLIC SAFETY.
HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR EACH CHILD
THAT IS DIED.
FOR MANY YEARS.
THIS NEEDS TO QUIT.
WE NEED TO START PROTECTING OUR
CHILDREN INSTEAD OF HER NUMBER.
HILL ON.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
MEMBERS SAYING QUESTIONS.
WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MOVE THE
BILL ON OUR UNDER THE BILL AND I
JUST WANNA.
I THINK WE ONE OF THE CO AUTHOR
OF LOVE THE OUTCOME THAT THANK
YOU ANY. OF THIS IMPORTANT
IMPORTANT ISSUE I KNOW CENTER
LENO WORKED ON IT FOR A MANY
YEARS ARE.
AND IT'S AND I LIKE THAT IT'S
BIPARTISAN I NO I THINK.
CENTER MCCONNELL ACTING IS
DOING SOME WORK ON THAT AND.
AND THE U. S. SENATE SO I THINK
IT'S LONG PAST TIME THAT WE.
IT'S RIDICULOUS THIS WAS EVER
OPERATED IN THE FIRST PLACE SO I
MOVED BILL.
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
SURE I APPRECIATE ALL THE
TESTIMONY MODY BOTH ARE PRO AND
CON JUST WANT TO REMIND
EVERYBODY THERE'S NO A PSYCHO
ACTIVE INGREDIENTS IN THIS THE
TNC LEVEL IS MINUSCULE. SO THAT
THAT SHOULD NOT BE A CONCERN
THERE REALLY I SEE THIS BILL IS.
BACK TO THE FUTURE BECAUSE IF
YOU LOOK IF YOU LOOK AT THAT THE
HISTORY. OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY
THE DECLARATIONS OF INDEPENDENCE
WAS WRITTEN ON HIM. BETSY ROSS
IS FIRST FLAG WAS MADE OUT OF
HIM IT WAS BEEN S. IT'S MINISTRY
A.
DE TRADITION.
DID YOU HAVE PRODUCTION IN THIS
COUNTRY IF YOU WANNA LEARN MORE
WHY WE STOPPED YOU GOTTA GET
HENRY STERN SENIOR THESIS FROM
HARVARD BECAUSE HE DID IT. ON
THIS VERY ISSUE IS IN A
FASCINATING FASCINATING HISTORY.
BACK TO THE MATTER IS.
WE WE NEED TO BE COMPETITIVE IN
THIS INDUSTRY AS WAS OUR A
MENTION FROM AN EARLIER SPEAKER
KENTUCKY'S WAY ON FRONT OF US WE
ARE THE AT CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
WE SHOULD BE WE SHOULD BE.
COMPETING IN THIS LAST. OF MORE
PROFITABLE FOR FARMERS AT LITTLE
TO NO PESTICIDES AND IT
REGENERATES THE SOIL SO THIS IS
A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY AND I
ASKED FOR AN AYE VOTE.
OUR THIS IS.
PARIS HAD TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS AND.
CENTER SKINNER ONE NEED TO
CONVEY TO YOU THAT SHE IS
SUPPORTING THIS BILL WHEN SHE
RETURNS.
SO.
WITHOUT LET'S GO AHEAD HAVE THE
VOTE.
SKINNER. ANDERSON AYE ANDERSON
AYE BRADFORD.
JACKSON. MITCHELL.
MITCHELL AYE STONE WIENER. AYE
WIENER AYE WE'RE GONNA HOLD IT
OPEN SO OTHER MEN MEMBERS COMING
OUT ON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU.
SURVIVOR WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME
UP PRESENT.
IF AND WHEN YOU'RE READING
POLICE ARE PRESENT S. B. ELEVEN
FORTY THREE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS.
IN TWO THOUSAND SIX BOOK THIS
HOUSE IN THE CALIFORNIA VOTERS
PASSED JESSICA'S LAWS WHICH
INCLUDED RESIDENCY RESTRICTIONS
ON SEX OFFENDERS.
IN TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN CDC ARE
DECIDED NOT TO ENFORCE THE
RESIDENCY RESTRICTIONS ACROSS
THE STATE DO A COURT DECISION
THAT ONLY IMPACTED SAN DIEGO
COUNTY.
MANY PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE STATE
STILL BELIEVE THE SEX OFFENDERS
ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LIVE NEXT
DOOR TO A SCHOOL PARK.
AND THAT IS NO BUT THAT IS NO
LONGER THE CASE.
LANDLORDS THEREFORE ASSUME THEIR
TENANTS HAVEN'T BEEN CONVICTED
OF THESE CRIMES IF THE HOMES
LOCATED NEXT TO A PARKER SCHOOL.
S. B. ELEVEN FORTY THREE ONLY
REQUIRES A SEX OFFENDER WHOSE
CRIMES WERE COMMITTED AGAINST A
CHILD.
TO INFORM THE PROSPECTIVE
LANDLORD OR THE OWNER OF THE
HOME BEFORE THEY RENT OR
PURCHASE A PROPERTY IF IT IS
LOCATED WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF
THE K. TO TWELVE SCHOOL.
CHILDREN'S PARK FOR CHILD
DAYCARE CENTER.
WITH ME TODAY IS HANFORD CITY
COUNCILMAN JUSTIN MENDEZ WHO
BROUGHT THIS ISSUE TO OUR
ATTENTION.
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT GRAD.
THANK YOU ARMED MEMBERS OF THE
SENATE.
I'M EARLIER THIS YEAR I FOUND
OUT THAT A SEX OFFENDER
CONVICTED OF LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS
ACTS WITH A CHILD UNDER THE AGE
OF FOURTEEN. WAS ABLE TO MOVE
NEXT DOOR TO MY CHILD'S DAYCARE.
LIKE ALL THE PARENTS OF THE
DAYCARE CENTER I THOUGHT SEX
OFFENDERS ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO
TARGET CHILDREN. WERE ALLOWED TO
MOVE NEXT DOOR TO DAY CARES
PARKS AND SCHOOLS.
ESPECIALLY DAYCARE BUSINESS
RUNNING FOR THIRTY YEARS IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
S. B. ELEVEN FORTY THREE IS
COMMON SENSE THE INFORMATION IS
GIVEN TO THE LANDLORD IN IT
DOESN'T NEED TO BE GIVEN AT ALL.
IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO MOVE IN
CLOSE TO SCHOOL PARK OR DAYCARE
CENTER.
I ASK YOU WHY IS IT OKAY FOR SEX
OFFENDER CONVICTED OF AN ACT
WITH A CHILD UNDER FOURTEEN.
THE RENT A HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO A
DAYCARE.
KEEP IN MIND NEXT DOOR MEANS HE
CAN PEAK OVER THE FENCE.
I BELIEVE THIS IS IT. BILL TO
COMMONSENSE
A SOLUTION OF FOR THE SAFETY OF
OUR CHILDREN AND HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU
DO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT.
YOU COULD MAKE YOUR WAY DOWN.
OKAY.
WHEN THAT CASE.
SO IF WE COULD TO HAVE THE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION COME
DOWN WE HAVE TO SEATS HERE AT
THE TABLE THEN IF THERE'S ANY
ADDITIONAL FOLKS.
YOU CAN USE THE MIKE.
GOOD MORNING SENATORS MY NAME IS
JANICE BALUCHI I'M A CIVIL
RIGHTS ATTORNEY AND I'M ALSO THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA.
EYES ARE THE ALLIANCE FOR
CONSTITUTIONAL SEX OFFENSE LAWS
IF THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION
AND WE REPRESENT MORE THAN ONE
HUNDRED AND FIVE THOUSAND
CALIFORNIA FAMILIES.
FAMILIES IN WHICH AT LEAST ONE
MEMBER HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF A
SEX OFFENSE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TODAY TO SPEAK ABOUT SENATE BILL
ELEVEN FORTY THREE. THE ALLIANCE
STRONGLY RECOMMENDS THAT ALL
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE VOTE NO
ON THIS BILL BECAUSE IT COULD
SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE PUBLIC
SAFETY.
MY COMMENTS TODAY ARE IN
ADDITION TO COMMENTS MADE IN THE
LINE ITSELF LETTER DATED APRIL
FIFTH OF TWENTY EIGHTEEN.
THE CONTENTS OF THAT LETTER IN
FACT CAN BE FOUND ON THE LAST
PAGE OF THE BILL ANALYSIS.
SENATE BILL ELEVEN FORTY THREE
COULD SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE
PUBLIC SAFETY AND ISN'T
CONSISTENT WITH THE FINDINGS AND
RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATIONS OF
THE CALIFORNIA SEX OFFENDER
MANAGEMENT BOARD. THE
LEGISLATURE'S EXPERTS ON SEX
OFFENDER POLICY AS WELL AS
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ACADEMIC
REPORTS.
AND IT'S TWENTY SIXTEEN AND
REPORT THE CALIFORNIA SEX
OFFENDER MANAGEMENT BOARD FOUND
QUOTE THEIMPOSITION OF
RESIDENCY RESTRICTIONS HAS THE
OPPOSITE EFFECT FROM THAT WHICH
WAS INTENDED.
THAT IS RESIDENCY RESTRICTIONS
INCREASED THE RISK OF OFFENDING
AND DO NOT MAKE COMMUNITIES. FOR
THAT REASON THE CALIFORNIA SEX
OFFENDER MANAGEMENT BOARD HAS
RECOMMENDED AGAINST ALL CURRENT
AND FUTURE USES OUR RESIDENCY
RESTRICTIONS.
THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
MADE SIMILAR FINDINGS AND REPORT
DATED JULY TWENTY FIFTEEN. AND
THAT REPORT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT FOUND THAT QUOTE
RESEARCH HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT
RESIDENCY RESTRICTIONS AND DO
NOT DECREASE AND ARE NOT A
DETERRENT FOR SEXUAL RECIDIVISM.
IN ADDITION RESEARCH HAS SHOWN
THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT DECREASE
AND SEX CRIME RATES FOLLOWING
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF RESIDENCY
RESTRICTIONS.
AND FINALLY ACADEMIC REPORTS
ALSO SUPPORT THE FINDINGS AND
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE
CALIFORNIA SEX OFFENDER
MANAGEMENT BOARD. FOR EXAMPLE DR
JILL LEVINSON STATED AND TWENTY
SIXTEEN REPORT TITLEDHIDDEN
CHALLENGES SEX OFFENDERS
LEGISLATED INTO HOMELESSNESS.
THAT RESIDENTS TO RESTRICTIONS
ARE A FAILED SOCIAL EXPERIMENT.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE UP THEY
PROTECT CHILDREN ARE PREVENT
RECIDIVISM AND IN FACT THEY
CREATE MANY MORE PROBLEMS THAN
THEY SOLVE.
DOCTOR LEVINSON THEREFORE
RECOMMENDED THAT RESIDENCIA
RESTRICTION LAWS SHOULD BE
ABOLISHED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION
TODAY ON THIS IMPORTANT MATTER
THE ALLIANCE AND ITS ONE HUNDRED
AND FIVE THOUSAND CALIFORNIA
FAMILIES STRONGLY URGE ALL
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE TO
VOTE NO. THANK YOU.
NEXT WITNESS.
GOOD MORNING NATASHA MINSKER FOR
THE ACLU OF CALIFORNIA
REGRETFULLY WE ARE ALSO OPPOSED.
THAT WE AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THAT WHILE
WELL INTENTIONED THIS BILL IS
ACTUALLY. COUNTER TO THE
INTERESTS OF PUBLIC SAFETY
BECAUSE IT IS LIKELY TO LEAD TO.
INCREASED HOMELESSNESS AMONG
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE A PRIOR
CONVICTION FOR A SEX OFFENSE AND
HOMELESSNESS AMONG THOSE
INDIVIDUALS. GREATLY INCREASES
THE RATE OF RECIDIVISM. WE ALSO
BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE
CONSTITUTIONAL PROBLEMS WITH THE
BILL THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME
COURT HAS INVALIDATED
CALIFORNIA'S RESTRICTIONS ON
RESIDENCY FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH A
PRIOR SEX CONVICTION.
SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE ON
PAROLE IN A CASE THAT LOOKED AT
SAN DIEGO COUNTY. THIS SUPREME
COURT INVALIDATED THESE
RESTRICTIONS FOR CONSTITUTIONAL
REASONS BECAUSE THE EFFECT OF
THERESTRICTIONS WAS TO FORCE
INDIVIDUALS WITH PRIOR
CONVICTIONS FOR SEX OFFENSES
INTO HOMELESSNESS. AND THAT
RESULT IS COUNTER TO PUBLIC
SAFETY INTERESTS AND THEREFORE
NOT A LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT
INTEREST FOR RESTRICTING A
PERSON'S LIBERTY.
THROUGH THE FORM OF A HOUSING
RESTRICTION.
THIS BILL SEEKS TO ESSENTIALLY
GET AROUND THAT OPINION BY OUT
SOURCING THE RESTRICTION TO
PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS BY LICENSING
PRIVACY PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS TO.
ENGAGE IN HOUSING DISCRIMINATION
FOR TARGETED GROUP OF PEOPLE WE
BELIEVE THAT SIMPLY REPLICATES
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROBLEMS THAT
THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT
HIGHLIGHTED IN THE TAYLOR
DECISION. AND IN FACT RAISES
ADDITIONAL CONSTITUTIONAL
PROBLEMS OF DUE PROCESS AND
EQUAL PROTECTION BY PUTTING
PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS IN CHARGE OF
ENFORCING THESE RESIDENCY
RESTRICTIONS.
SO WHAT WE APPRECIATE THEIR
MOTIVATIONS AND INTENTIONS
BEHIND THE BILL WE ARE OPPOSED.
DO HAVE ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU ADANA MENTAL ON BEHALF
OF SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER
JEFF ADACHI INTO OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL.
HERE BUYERS FROM CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION ARE
WE OPPOSE THIS BILL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION.
DOCTOR DAVID ADLER SAN JOSE
CALIFORNIA IN OPPOSITION OF THIS
BILL WHEN GIPSON ORANGE COUNTY
MOTHER OPPOSED TO THIS BILL.
JOHN GIPSON ORANGE COUNTY SON
OPPOSED TO THIS BILL.
MY NAME IS ALEX STEWART LIVE IN
CITRUS HEIGHTS AND I OPPOSE THIS
BILL.
MY NAME IS ZARAK SCRIBBLING ON
FROM WOODLAND HILLS CALIFORNIA
AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
IF YOU ARE ONE MOVE CLOSE TO
MILEY MISS BLASTS LAWS I KNOW
HER SOME OF THEIR COUNTY CLOSEST
THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS ALIDA WITH THEORISING
I HOPE WAS TO DISPEL HIS MANY
JUMP GIFTS SO FAR IN THIS BILL.
ELLEN JOHNSON OR JOE CALIFORNIA
STRONGLY OPPOSES FILL.
LINDELL FROM SAN JOSE OPPOSE THE
SPILL.
I'M PETER CHEN QUOTES FROM SAN
FRANCISCO AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL.
I UNDERWOOD DEODORANT RULING
THAT ALL HEALED I DON'T THEIR
NEW POLICIES TO BE.
YOUR MIND CAN FROM SACRAMENTO I
OPPOSE HIS SPIEL.
I'M DAVID HERON I LIVE IN
ELDORADO COUNTY AND I URGE EVERY
MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE TO
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS MISGUIDED
BILL. THANK YOU.
SCOTT PRYING BUSINESS OWNERS
SACRAMENTO CALIFORNIA I OPPOSE
THIS BILL.
RICHARD MANDER SACRAMENTO.
AND I SINCERELY OPPOSES BILL
ALSO.
MIKE JAMES CITRUS HEIGHTS AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
SO OUR MEMBER STEVEN COMMENTS
QUESTIONS. SOONER WIENER AYE
THANK YOU ARE. A SINNER AND THE
SEN CENTER BUT I THANK YOU FOR.
COME FORWARD WITH THIS.
POSE ALL.
THANK YOU KNOW GOT A LOT OF
WORK AROUND.
CALIFORNIA'S.
BROKEN SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY.
I'M LAST YEAR WE FINALLY ARE
CREATED TEARING SO THAT PEOPLE
ACTUALLY.
HAVE HOPE IF THEY'RE NOT THE
MOST SERIOUS SEX OFFENDERS HAVE
A HOPE OF.
GETTING OFF OF THE SEX OFFENDER
REGISTRY AND.
AND SO IT'S A BIG STEP FORWARD
ARE GOING TO AFFECT IN A FEW
YEARS. BY A USED TO BE
STILLCURRENTLY IS THAT
EVERYONE'S ON FOR LIFE.
BUT NOW IT'LL BE TWENTY YEAR.
LATE TIME FOR THE REAL WORST OF
THE WORST TWENTY YEARS OFFER A
VERY SERIOUS AND THEN TEN YEARS
FORA BASICALLY THE MISDEMEANORS.
BY IT IS STILL YOU KNOW FOR.
THERE STILL PEOPLE WILL BE ON
THE REGISTRY FOR OFFENSES THAT
ARE.
ARE NOT AT THE HIGH END OF THE
SPECTRUM. AYE AND WHEN IT COMES
IN THE DETAILS I HAVE RUN THIS
BILL THAT THERE IS A BROADER
ISSUE THAT.
WE.
WE PUBLISH A LOT OF SEX
OFFENDERS IN THE HOMELESSNESS.
WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'RE MORE
LIKELY TO RE OFFEND.
AND THEN THE BUT THE.
SPECIFICALLY.
THE BREATH OF THIS FOR ANY
CRIME.
AGAINST SOMEONE UNDER THE AGE
OF THE TEAM THAT WAS HOW I READ
THIS THIS BILL.
IT.
IT'S NOT IT WHICH OF COURSE AT
THE BROAD RANGE RIGHT YOU HAVE.
ON THAT THEM AT THE REAL HEINOUS
AND YOU'RE REAPING RAPING A
CHILD FOR EXAMPLE WHICH WE ALL
AGREE IS. JUST
SPECKLE CONDUCT IT SHOULD BE
SEVERELY PUNISHED BOTTOM AND ARE
PRESENT IN AND OPEN THE REGISTER
FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE LIKE
EVEN UNDER OUR BILL. BUT THIS
WOULD ALSO INCLUDE FOR EXAMPLE.
AND.
AND AND THIS GOODS INTO A
DISCREPANCY IN THE LOG BETWEEN.
.
CUT BY GUITAR LGBT AND NON LGBT
PARTICULARLY.
GAY YOUNG MAN AND STRAIGHT
YOUNG MEN.
IF YOU ARE A A I GET A.
EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD BOY AND YOU
HAVE SEX WITH A.
GET A SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD BOY.
YOU ARE NOT ONLY GUILTY OF
STATUTORY RAPE BY YOU ARE A
REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER UNLIKE.
A BOY WHO HAS SEX WITH A SEVENTY
YEAR OLD AND A TWO YEAR OLD BOY.
WHO HAS SEX WITH SOME ZERO GIRL
HE IS NOT A REGISTERED SEX
OFFENDER IT'S A TERRIBLE
DISCRIMINATION THE LAW WE WANT
TO FIX IT ONE DAY?
BUT RIGHT NOW DIE EACH YEAR OLD
YOUNG GAY MAN WILL BE A
REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER FOR TEN
YEARS.
IT'S IT'S OBSOLETE TERRIBLE HE
SHOULDN'T BE BUT HE WILL BE. AND
THEN HE WILL HAVE TROUBLE
ACCESSING HOUSING.
SUCH AS WELL ONE EXAMPLE OF
THROUGH THE THERE'S THIS BROAD
RANGE I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE
WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE AND EIGHTEEN
YEAR OLD. A HAVING SEX WITH
SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD THAT MEANS
YOU'RE A SOCIOPATH WHO CAN'T
LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO I DID THE BILL'S VERY
BROAD I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT
IT TODAY I DO APPRECIATE. YOU I
UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT IS TO
PROTECT CHILDREN FROM PREDATORS
AND WE ALL SUPPORT THAT BUT THIS
IS JUST IT'S TOO BROAD FOR ME SO
I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY
WILL BE SUPPORTIVE TODAY. THAT
YOU.
SENATE MITCHELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AYE WHEN IT
FOUND SOME CLARIFICATION.
CERTIFY THAT YOUR STAFF. PA AND
FOR MY STAFF THAT HER LEDGE
COUNCIL ADVICE TO YOU THAT THAT
THE BILL IS DEEMED
CONSTITUTIONAL.
HOWEVER WHEN I TAKE A LOOK AT
THE COMMITTEE NOW OFFICE
COMMITTING OFFICES VERY CLEAR IN
TERMS OF TAYLOR. THAT IT'S THE
CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT.
RULING.
AND AS HIS GRIP FADED IN PAGE
FOUR OF THE COMMITTEE ANNOUNCES.
IT APPEARS THAT THE REASON OF
TAYLOR NOW WOULD APPLY TO ANY
JURISDICTIONS SEEKING TO APPLY A
BLANKET RESIDENCY RESTRICTION ON
REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS.
SO.
I PRIMI COURT HAS.
MADE A DECLARATION.
AND YOUR POINT IS.
WHAT ABOUT?
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
HAD THIS IS UNUSUAL BUT WE HAD
ONE WITNESS THEY GOT CAUGHT
NIGHT. JAM IN THE.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER WITNESS IN
OPPOSITION
IT'S ROGER HUNNICUTT FROM
MODESTO A BUSINESSMAN I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU THANK
YOU.
.
JACKSON.
THANK YOU. VERY JACKSON.
NOT ON A PACE WITH THEIR LAST
WITNESS NOT DOES NOT AS SOON
INJURED.
A YET AYE YUM I. YOU KNOW WHEN I
SEE BILLS LIKE THIS I THINK WE
ALL HATE THESE.
SERIOUS DANGEROUS SEX OFFENDERS
NO QUESTION ABOUT.
I ASK MYSELF. IS THIS BILL GOING
TO ACHIEVE ITS INTENDED PURPOSE
WHICH IS TO PROTECT US FROM
PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
BUT WHEN THESE FOLKS BECOME
HOMELESS AND SO MANY OF THEM DO
BECAUSE THERE'S NO WHERE THAT
WHERE THEY CAN LIVE.
I THEY ATTEND THEY ARE MORE IF.
I THINK THE DATA SHOWS ARE MORE
INCLINED TO BECOME REPEAT
OFFENDERS WHICH IS EXACTLY THE
OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
ACCOMPLISH.
SO.
.
AYE I THINK THAT.
WHILE I APPRECIATE THE GOAL I
THINK IT'S ACTUALLY.
DOESN'T PROVIDE THAT PROTECTION
IN FACT TO THE CONTRARY I AND
AND.
.
THE.
MINOR SAY ISSUED INTAKE ANY THE
REQUESTED AMENDMENTS THIS IS THE
BILL AS SOON AS IT APPEARED OR
WITH THEIR SON.
THERE WEREN'T ANY REQUESTS. ó
OKAY ALRIGHT HARD RIVER OKAY
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU KNOW WELL I I THINK
THE NOTION THAT I MEAN THIS.
YOU KNOW THE NOTION THAT SOMEONE
CAN IF THEY DISCOVER
SUBSEQUENTLY THAT A PERSON'S A
REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER THEY CAN
RESCIND THE. THE PRIOR SALE IN
AND TAKE POSSESSION THE HOUSE
AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME.
UMPIRES.
WELL VOIGTS A CONTRACT.
AND AGAIN I I JUST.
I JUST DON'T SEE THIS AS A
ACHIEVING THE GOALS THAT YOU'RE
ATTEMPTING TO DO BUT I
APPRECIATE BUT I APPRECIATED
ADDRESSING THIS AS A GOOD
LISTENER BATES WE DO HAVE.
PROBLEMS IT SHOWS THAT WE'VE GOT
TO.
I THINK BE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
VISIONARY AND.
IN HOW WE'RE GOING TO.
ADDRESS PROBLEMS WE'VE TRIED
THESE METHODS BEFORE THEY
HAVEN'T WORKED. OR SIMILAR
METHODS AND WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE
OUT A WAY TO REALLY.
STOP THIS BEHAVIOR RATHER THAN
END UP AND I.
YEAH ENCOURAGING NOT ENCOURAGING
IT BUT SEEING IT REPEAT ITSELF
BECAUSE WE TAKE STEPS THAT
ACTUALLY ARE COUNTER PRODUCTIVE
I THINK IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO
SAY SO I ALSO. WILL BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT IT BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO CALM.
ARE DO WE HAVE A MOTION.
OKAY HAVE SENATE OF IRAQ WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE.
THIS IS SAID TO PASS TO
JUDICIARY. AND IF WE CAN HAVE A.
POLICY.
OKAY THANK YOU.
I IF WE GO AHEAD AND HAVE THAT
VOTE TO BE GREAT.
SKINNER.
ANDERSON AYE ANDERSON AYE
BRADFORD JACKSON. JACKSON NO
MITCHELL.
STONE WIENER.
WIENER NOW.
WILL HOLD IT OPEN SO THE OTHER
MEMBERS MAYOR DOWN.
SARAH GAINES.
SIR GAINES IF YOU WOULD MIND
TARA PRESENTING SP.
TWELVE NINETEEN.
TURN THIS ON.
WE HAVE TO HEAR ME THERE OKAY
YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH I
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS.
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY PRESENT
SENATE BILL TWELVE NINETEEN.
WHICH TO REPEAL THE PROVISIONS
ON LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA SHARING
WRESTLING FROM LAST YEAR SENATE
BILL FIFTY FOUR.
CREATED CALIFORNIA'S STATUSES
WHAT IS COMMONLY CALLED THE
SANCTUARY STATE.
SB FIFTY FOUR PROHIBITED STATE
AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
OFFICIALS OUTSIDE OF CDC ARE.
FROM QUOTE PROVIDING INFORMATION
REGARDING A PERSON'S RELEASE
STATE.
OR RESPONDING TO REQUESTS OF
NOTIFICATION. BY PROVIDING
RELEASE STATES OR OTHER
INFORMATION.
UNQUOTE.
OR QUOTE PROVIDING PERSONAL
INFORMATION INCLUDING BUT NOT
LIMITED TO AN INDIVIDUAL'S HOME
ADDRESS OR WORKING ADDRESS
UNQUOTE.
AND TRANSFERRING AN INDIVIDUAL
TO IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES.
WHAT THIS MEANS IN PRACTICE IS
THAT CALIFORNIA'S PROTECTING
ILLEGAL CRIMINALS?
HIGH PRIORITY DEPORTATION
TARGETS.
FROM FEDERAL LAW.
CALIFORNIA SHOULD BE WORKING
TOGETHER WITH APARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY IS IT WORKS
TOGETHER WITH OTHER FEDERAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO UPHOLD
THE NATION'S LOSS. I THINK
PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER IT
FARCICAL IF CALIFORNIA DECIDED
IT WAS NOT GOING TO WORK WITH
THE FBI OR THE TREASURY
DEPARTMENT TO TURN OVER
SUSPECTS.
WHO WAS GRANTED BY WHO IS WANTED
BY THOSE AGENCIES?
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING
ILLEGAL CRIMINALS OFTEN VIOLENT
CRIMINALS MAX'S EXACTLY WHAT THE
STATE IS DOING.
BY ABANDONING COMMONSENSE
COOPERATION BETWEEN AGENCIES
CALIFORNIA WILL FORCE FEDERAL
IMMIGRATION OFFICERS TO CONDUCT.
THERE ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS
OUTSIDE OF CONTROLLED
ENVIRONMENTS AND PUSH THEM OUT
INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS
ENDANGERING THE POTENTIAL
DEPORTEES.
OFFICERS AND IF INNOCENT
CITIZENS.
THIS POLICY YOU ALSO PUT SORELY
NEEDED FEDERAL FUNDS AT RISK AS
YOU KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
HAS RECENTLY SUED CALIFORNIA.
OVER THIS POLICY AS WELL AND I
AM SADDENED THAT IT HAS COME TO
THAT.
BUT AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
MAKES CLEAR IN ITS LAWSUIT THEY
HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER
IMMIGRATION.
AND ANY POLICY THAT IN ANY WAY
INTERFERES WITH THEIR
ADMINISTRATION A FEDERAL LAW.
VIOLATES THE SUPREMACIST CLAUSE
OF THE CONSTITUTION.
CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE PEELING
AWAY FROM THE SANCTUARY STATE
AND I THINK IT'S ONLY A MATTER
OF TIME BEFORE THIS UNWISE PRO
CRIMINAL STATUTE. CRUMBLES UNDER
THE SUPREME COURT RULING.
BUT I'M HOPING THAT WEEK YOU
HAVE COME TO OUR SENSES
A FOREHAND AND TAKE CARE OF THIS
ISSUE HERE IN THE BUILDING.
CALIFORNIA CAN HAVE NO LAWFUL
INTEREST IN HELPING THE PORTABLE
IMMIGRANTS.
MANY OF WHOM ARE CONVICTED
CRIMINALS EVADE FEDERAL
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
THE UNITED STATES IS BLESSED TO
BE A COUNTRY OF LAWS WERE LAW
ABIDING PEOPLE INCLUDING
IMMIGRANTS FROM EVERY CORNER OF
THE WORLD. CAN CHASE THEIR
DREAMS
I SUPPORT A LIBERAL AND
WELCOMING. LEGAL IMMIGRATION
SYSTEM AND WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT
THIS BILL ONLY AFFECTS THOSE.
WHO ARE NOT IN THE UNITED STATES
LEGALLY?
WITH ME TODAY TO OFFER TESTIMONY
TO SUPPORT IS FORMER SACRAMENTO
COUNTY SHERIFF JOHN MCGINNIS.
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
MORNING.
A. COUPLE THINGS ON THIS OF MY
PERSPECTIVE BUT LIKE TO SHARE IS
THAT I LOOKING AT.
CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS IN THEIR ORGANIZATIONS
TODAY. ARROW IN THE CONTEXT OF
S. B. FIFTY FOUR IT APPEARS TO
ME IS THAT WE HAVE AN ELEMENT OF
CONFLICT.
BETWEEN DIRECTIVES WITH THE
POWER OF LAW AT A GIVEN TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONALS WHEN
THEY INTERACT WITH PEOPLE WHO
ARE IN THIS CUT STATE IN THE
COUNTRY WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF
LAW.
ID NOT UNLIKE A CHILD WHO IS
BEING READ BY PARENTS WHO MAY ON
OCCASION GIVE CONFLICTING
DIRECTION.
AT A CHILD WHO WANTS TO COMPLY
WANTS TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. I
COMPLY WITH THEIR PARENTS SAID
DIRECTIVES IS POWERLESS TO
UNDERSTAND WHOSE DIRECTIVE ARE
THEY TO COMPLY WITH THINK THINGS
THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA LAW
ENFORCEMENT THIS CONTEXT. SO
SEEKING SOME LEVEL OF CLARITY
ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA WHERE THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES REIGN
SUPREME WHEN IT COMES TO
IMMIGRATION ISSUES.
THAT CLEARLY WAS RESOLVED BY THE
U. S. SUPREME COURT AND ARIZONA
TEN SB TEN SEVENTY.
BUT A PART OF THIS I THINK IS IS
WORTHY OF DISCUSSION AND I COME
TO YOU AS A PERSON WITH THIRTY
ONE YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
EXPERIENCE THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. IN WHICH I
INVESTIGATED EVERYTHING FROM
PETTY THEFTS TO TO MURDERS
MULTIPLE PARTNERS.
AND THAT I NEVER EVER ONCE NEVER
HAD THE OCCASION TO ASK SOMEONE
THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS BECAUSE
FRANKLY. I WAS POWERLESS TO
ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS AND
DIDN'T CARE ABOUT IMMIGRATION
LAWS IT WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY.
SO I THINK IN A CLEAR AND
UNEQUIVOCAL MESSAGE COMING FROM
LEADERSHIP WITHIN PUBLIC POLICY
AND GOVERNANCE.
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT SAYING THAT
IF YOU ARE IN THIS STATE IN THIS
COUNTRY. WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF
LAW WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION.
AND YOU HAVE OCCASION TO.
REGRETTABLY BECOME A VICTIM OF
A CRIME OR A WITNESS TO A CRIME.
ADD TO FEEL IN ANY WAY AS THOUGH
YOU ARE ENCUMBERED FROM
REPORTING THAT IS SERVING AS A
WITNESS THAT CRIMINALITY. AT IS
FLAWED AND YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND
THAT NOTHING WILL BEFALL YOU IF
YOU SIMPLY SHOW UP IN REPORT.
AND TESTIFY ACCORDINGLY AGAIN
AYE AYES AYE OFFER THAT AT FROM
MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE OF
SOMEBODY DEEPLY IMMERSED IN A
LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSION FOR
OVER THREE DECADES. NEVER EVER
WANTS TO THAT BECOME AN ISSUE SO
WITNESSES TO TRAFFIC COLLISIONS
WITNESSES TO CRIMINAL ACTS
VICTIMS OF CRIME. I HAVE NOTHING
TO FEAR FROM STATE AND LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS TO SIMPLY NOT THE
CASE
WITH THAT IN MIND I THINK THE
SENATORS A BILL GOES A LONG WAY
TO. A RESTORE SOME LEVEL OF
CONFIDENCE I URGE YOU TO
CONSIDER AND I THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
WE HAVE ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT.
OKAY DO WE HAVE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
IF FOR.
YOU COULD TAKE A SEAT ON EITHER
SIDE EVERY GREAT.
AND THEN NOW IF WE HAVE
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES BEYOND THIS
IF YOU WORK YOUR WAY TOWARDS THE
MIKE IN THE MIDDLE.
DEBBIE TRAFFIC.
WE HAD.
GREAT OTHER ENTER MEDINA WITH
ASIAN AMERICANS ADVANCING
JUSTICE CALIFORNIA AND STRONG
OPPOSITION WHERE PARTED I
THOUGHT OF CALIFORNIA COLLISION
THAT STRONGLY SUPPORTED. SB
FIFTY FOUR THE COMPANY VALUES
ACT LAST YEAR AND ALSO CO
SPONSORED. A DETROIT PSYCHIATRIC
THAT PREVIOUSLY.
A PATH.
S. B. TWELVE NINETEEN AND.
COM WHICH APPEALS LAST YEAR'S S.
B. KELAPA THAT'S BEFORE THE
COMPANY BUYS ACT.
THAT WAS BEFORE PROHIBITS LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
RESPONDING TO FEDERAL
IMMIGRATION CANNERS AND HOLD
REQUESTS.
IMMIGRATION HOLDS REYES
CONSTITUTIONAL CONCERNS BECAUSE
IMMIGRANTS IN LOOKING CRIMINAL
CUTS CITY ARE YOU CAN BEYOND
THEIR SCHEDULED CRIMINAL
RELEASE.
BUT PURPOSES THE FEDERAL
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT SB
TWELVE NINETEEN IS CHARACTER
TENTH AMENDMENT WHICH PROHIBITS
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM
CONSCRIPTING STATES AND THEIR
RESOURCES. TO ENFORCE FEDERAL
REGULATORY PROGRAMS.
IN TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN TO
FEDERAL COURT FOUND SECURE
COMMUNITIES CAPITAL DUPLICATION
PROGRAM THAT RELY ON IMMIGRATION
HOLDS ENTERTAINERS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. AND OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION ACKNOWLEDGED
FAILURES AND DROPPED PROGRAM.
NOTABLY WHILE THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION RECENTLY POL PARA
LAWSUIT. CHALLENGING QUESTIONS
ABOUT FIFTY FOUR IT DID NOT
CHALLENGE PROVISIONS BENNY
BETWEEN REQUEST.
S. B. TWELVE NINETEEN DISCOUNTED
PUBLIC POLICY COULD A PUBLIC
POLICY COURSE THE STATE HAS
TAKEN SINCE TWO THOUSAND
THIRTEEN. WALLET BEGAN
DISENTANGLE IN STATE AND LOCAL
PUBLIC FIFTY RESOURCES FROM THE
FEDERAL DEPRECATION SYSTEM.
THIS TYPE OF ENTITLEMENT UNDER
CUTS IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES
CONFIDENCE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
APPEAR TO CALLING THE POLICE
WILL HAVE. IMMIGRATION
REPERCUSSIONS.
IS THAT UNDERMINE SUPPORT FIFTY
OF ALL CALIFORNIANS
COMPANIES ALREADY LEARNED
PAINFUL LESSONS AND SUFFERED A
DEVASTATING FISCAL AND SOCIAL
IMPACTS OF ALLOWING. IMMIGRATION
TENORS AND HAS WISELY WISELY SET
FORTH ON A PULSE DIFFERENT
POLICY COURSE.
SECURE COMMUNITIES WHICH
OPERATING CALIFORNIA'S
INDISCRIMINATE MASSIVE
DEPORTATION PROGRAM BECAUSE THE
STATE'S TAXPAYERS SIXTY FIVE
MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY PRETTY
SWEET REASONS RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSE SB TWELVE NINETEEN.
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MY NAME IS CHRIS KILEY
ON A LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE FOR
THE CALIFORNIA IMMIGRANT POLICY
CENTER DIE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO
SB TWELVE NINETEEN.
SADLY SP TWELVE NINETEEN EYES
ROUTINE THAT AND I'LL HAVE TO TO
PROCESS AND SECOND CHANCES
RUNNING CONTRARY TO OUR
CALIFORNIA VALLEY'S BY
UNDERMINING WHAT THE LEGISLATURE
AND THE GOVERNOR ACCOMPLISHED
LAST YEAR WITH SENATE BILL FIFTY
FOUR.
I REGARDLESS OF A PERSON'S
BACKGROUND OR INTERACTION WITH
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WE
BELIEVE IN THE HUMANITY OF ALL
PEOPLE THE IMPORTANCE OF DUE
PROCESS AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
SECOND CHANCES.
I TAKE THE STORY OF DANIEL MEYER
REPRESENTED BY ADVANCING JUSTICE
ASIAN LAW CAUCUS WHO CAME TO THE
U. S. FROM A COW AT TWO YEARS
OLD AS AN EXAMPLE.
WHEN DANIEL WAS YOUNG HE
PARTICIPATED IN A ROBBERY WAS
SENSITIVE TIME IN STATE PRISON
AFTER SERVING HIS TIME HE WAS
HANDED TO ICE.
THOUGH LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENT
LAWS PASSED IN NINETEEN NINETY
SIX MADE DANIEL MAYOR DANIEL
SUBJECT TO MANDATORY
DEPORTATION.
AND AFTER A YEAR AND A HALF OF
BEING AND ICE ATTENTION HE WAS
RELEASED BECAUSE ICE WAS UNABLE
TO OBTAIN TRAVEL DOCUMENTS FOR
HIM. SINCE HIS RELEASE ALMOST
TWELVE TWENTY YEARS AGO DANIEL
HAS BECOME AN ENVIRONMENTAL
LEADER AND ADVOCATE.
FOR THESE FOR THE PAST DECADE
DANIEL HAS WORKED AT THE ECOLOGY
CENTER A NONPROFIT WHERE HE DOES
WHERE HE SERVES AS A DIRECTOR OF
THE RECYCLING PROGRAM. THROUGH
HIS WORK AT IT TRAINING LOW
INCOME YOUTH FOR JOBS AND
RECYCLING AND IN THE RECYCLING
INDUSTRY AND ADVOCACY TO IMPROVE
THE ENVIRONMENT DANIEL HAS
SOUGHT TO MAKE AMENDS FOR HIS
PAST MISTAKES.
THANKFULLY THIS PAST MARCH
GOVERNOR BROWN RECOGNIZE DANIELS
REDEMPTIVE EFFORTS AND GRANT HIM
A FULL AND UNCONDITIONAL PARDON
OPENING THE DOOR TO IMMIGRATION
RELIEF.
THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITY
MEMBERS IKE DANIEL WHO MADE
MISTAKES BUT THEN TOOK THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THEIR LIVES
AROUND. AND HAVE BECOME OF VITAL
TO ACALIFORNIA'S FABRIC OUR
COMMUNITIES ARE STRONGER WHEN WE
BELIEVE IN COMPASSION. AND
SECOND CHANCES THIS BILL WEAKENS
OUR STATE AND FEEDS INTO THE
ANTI IMMIGRANT HYSTERIA FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT HAS USED TO DIVIDE
OUR NATION. IS FOR THESE REASONS
THAT WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR NO VOTE ON THIS BILL THANK
YOU.
BUT I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES OPPOSITION
IF YOU JUST GO AHEAD THANK YOU
CHRIS FOR SIGNS OF THE CHAIR OF
THE COALITION FOR HUMANE
IMMIGRANT RIGHTS IN STRONG
OPPOSITION.
MIKE A DOCTOR OFF ON BEHALF OF
THE ACLU OF CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION.
GARCIA HERNANDEZ A BEHALF FOR
THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS FOR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN OPPOSITION.
EMILY HARRIS I'M A HALF OF THE
ELLA BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN
RIGHTS IN OPPOSITION.
UNDER HER ERA.
ON BEHALF OF MALTA THE MEXICAN
AMERICAN LEGAL DEFENSE AND
EDUCATIONAL FUND IN STRONG
OPPOSITION.
JON A MAN DEL ON BEHALF OF SAN
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER JEFF
ADACHI IN OPPOSITION.
HERE BARS AND THEY HAVE A
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION.
MY NAME IS THAT WHERE NUMBER
MORE STRONG COUGH OUR CALIFORNIA
I'M AYE OPPOSED THIS BILL.
YOU HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
OKAY.
SENATE MITCHELL I SEE YOU'RE MY
KIND YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IF I MAKE TO THE CHAIR ON ACID
TO GAINES.
WITNESS OF CLARIFYING QUESTION
FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR. THREE DECADES OF OF
SERVICE AN OVERHEATED TO PROTECT
AND SURVIVE PRESHEAF THAT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD
YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
AND CORRECT ME FIVE.
DID NOT.
ON YOU STATED THAT THE YEARS OF
THAT YOU WERE DIRECTLY INVOLVED.
THAT THAT IS THE YOU DIDN'T
CARE WHETHER ABOUT SUMS
IMMIGRATION STATUS WHEN YOU
INVESTIGATED A CRIME.
AND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE THAT
THOSE WHO.
BEEN WITNESSES INCOME FORWARD.
.
WORD IMPACTED BY THEIR OWN
IMMIGRATION STATUS PRIOR TO THE
PASSAGE OF FIFTY FOUR THAT RARE
SUMMARY YES VERY MUCH SO.
SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND BECAUSE
THAT IS IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION.
TO DIRECT TESTIMONY WE'VE HEARD
FROM.
IMMIGRANTS BOTH BOTH DOCUMENT
AND UNDOCUMENTED WHO'VE COME
BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE AND OTHERS
IN THIS. ON INSTITUTION THE SAY
QUITE THE CONTRARY THAT FROM THE
VERY LANDS FROM THEIR
PERSPECTIVE FROM THEIR LIFE
EXPERIENCE. THEY HAVE NOT.
COME FORWARD THEY HAVE NOT.
BEEN WILLING TO BE ENGAGED WITH
LAW ENFORCEMENT EITHER TO REPORT
CRIMES. THEMSELVES WERE VICTIMS
OF OR WITNESSED OUT OF FEAR
PARTICULARLY IN THIS CURRENT.
HEIGHTENED POLITICAL CLIMATE
PARTICULARLY NGUYEN.
YOU KNOW I I HAVE TO CHALLENGE
SENATOR GAMES.
COMMENTS ALLMAN SUGGESTIONS
THAT YOU KNOW THE. IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITY UNDOCKING THERE
OTHERWISE I'M HAVE A HIGHER
RATE.
OF OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY COMPARED
TO GOOD OLD AMERICAN CITIZENS SO
HE HELPED ME. YOUR.
.
WITH THAT I APPRECIATE THAT YOUR
PERSPECTIVE FROM WHERE YOU STAND
ON THAT SIDE OF THE LAW BUT BUT
HOW DO WE CHALLENGE THE PEOPLE
OF COME FORWARD AND TOLD US
DIRECTLY IN TERMS OF THEIR OWN
LIFE EXPERIENCE. CENTER I CAN
SAY THAT I DON'T.
NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT THAT
THAT THEY DON'T HOLD THAT
PERSPECTIVE BUT I CAN TELL YOU
THAT STATE AND LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA OR ANY OF THE FIFTY
STATES IN THE UNION. ARE
POWERLESS TO ENFORCE IMMIGRATION
LAW PERIOD THAT'S THEIR FULL
STOP THEY CANNOT DO IT. OF
LAWFULLY SO. I THINK MUCH OF THE
MESSAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE SHARED.
TO THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THOSE
WHO WERE HERE WITHOUT THE
BENEFIT OF DOCUMENTATION.
THAT AMONG THE THINGS THEY NEED
TO FEAR OF INTERACTION WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
FOR PURPOSES OTHER THAN THEIR
OWN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY SEPARATE
APART FROM IMMIGRATION
VIOLATIONS.
ARE NOT ON THAT LIST ANOTHER
WAS OF THEIR VICTIM OF OR
WITNESS TO A CRIME.
AS STATE AND LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAS NO AUTHORITY
WHATSOEVER AND IN MY PERSONAL
EXPERENCE.
A IN TERMS OF PERSPECTIVE NO
DESIRE TO ENFORCE IMMIGRATION
LAW THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
AND AGAIN AM. OF FAR GREATER
IMPORT IT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS
THE FACT THAT THEY ARE POWERLESS
TO DO SO. IF IN FACT THERE
ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO'S SO
INCLINED. I'VE NEVER EVER SEEN
IT AND I HAVE A BROAD BROAD
BROAD BASE OF EXPERIENCE IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND AS A RESULT.
FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE THIS BILL
IS NECESSARY WHY.
THIS BILL IS NECESSARY TO TO
CLEAR UP.
CONFUSION THAT INHERENTLY EXIST
WITHIN A SYSTEM IN WHICH LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA BEING TOLD.
GIVE ONE DIRECTION FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ANOTHER
FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA VIA
SB FIFTY FOUR. A AS FOR THE THE
THE PERCEPTION ON THE PART OF
THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY.
THAT THEY SHOULD FEAR LAW
ENFORCEMENT I THINK FRANKLY
ISN'T COMING UPON LEADERSHIP IN
PUBLIC POLICY AND IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO EXTEND EXPLAIN TO
THE PUBLIC. TO INCLUDE THOSE
HERE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF OF
DOCUMENTATION
THAT THEY NEEDN'T FEAR THAT THAT
THEY SHOULD COME FORWARD. AND
THEY WILL BE TREATED AS A
WITNESS OR VICTIM APPROPRIATELY
NOW IF SOMEBODY IS ARRESTED FOR
SOME VIOLATION OF LAW. NOW
THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY SERVERS
ENTER IN BECAUSE HE FOR
SOMETHING ELSE HISTORICALLY I
IMMIGRATION CONSEQUENCES COULD
BEFALL THEM BUT THE ABSOLUTELY
NOT WHEN IT COMES TO BEING A
VICTIM OF. OR WITNESS TO A CRIME
AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF REVOKING.
SB FIFTY FOUR GETS TO THE ISSUE
OF THE CONFUSION IN TERMS OF THE
MESSAGE AND I'M WONDERING AS YOU
SAY SINCE LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE
CLEAR. THAT ENFORCING ANY
IMMIGRATION RELATED LAW IS NOT
WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW THEN YOU
KNOW THE CLARIFICATION THAT
NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL I THE FEDERAL LEVEL NEEDS
TO STOP GIVING DIRECTION OR.
SUGGEST THAT LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT IJF
AND THEIR ACTIVITIES AT ALL OF
MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE THE BILL
DIRECTED TOWARD THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT VERSUS. REVOKING FD
FIFTY FOUR.
WITH DUE RESPECT OF.
THROUGH THE CHAIR AND WE'RE NOT
HAVING A DIALOGUE RIGHT NOW SO
SHE DIDN'T ASK YOUR QUESTION
GIVE ME MADAM CHAIR THANKS
ALRIGHT CERTAINLY.
AND THIS MITCHELL YOU DID NOT.
YOUR YOU HAD THE FLOOR SO IS
NOT YOUR AIR.
YES SENATOR JACKSON.
BUT THANK YOU FOR RAISING A
COUPLE THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE I
WASN'T REALLY CLEAR WITH THE.
WHAT DOES YOUR CONCERNS ARE SO?
SO WHAT WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING
IS THAT.
UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE DON'T NEED
TO FEAR.
THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE
SUBJECT TO.
AT A DEPORTATION IF THEY
HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG HE
SAID IS SAID THE STATE YOUR
STATEMENT SIR YOU MAY ANSWER
THAT.
THROUGH THE CHAIR.
S. CORRECTED OR SIMPLY A WITNESS
TO ARE A VICTIM OF A CRIME.
ADD THEIR INTERACTION WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAS NEVER IN MY
EXPERIENCE RESULTED IN
CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR.
IMMIGRATION STATUS WELL THAT
GOES CONTRARY TO EVERYTHING I'VE
BEEN HEARING IN MY COMMUNITY
THROUGH THE CHAIR IF I MAY.
ABOUT THE FEAR THAT PEOPLE NOW
HAVE AS.
FEDERAL OFFICIALS COME THERE
FOLLOWING PEOPLE TO SCHOOL IN
THEIR CHILDREN WHO GO HOME WHEN
THEIR PARENTS AREN'T THEY'RE AND
THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG
BUT THERE NOW. SUBJECT TO WHAT.
YEAH IS PERCEIVED BY MANY WET
RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY.
TO BE.
.
REALLY CONCERTED EFFORT TO
REALLY ROOT OUT PEOPLE BECAUSE
THEY ARE UNDOCUMENTED SO. I
WOULD HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH
THAT.
AT LEAST BASED ON THE WHAT'S
THE REALITY IN MY OWN DISTRICT
BUT THE OTHER QUESTION FIVE MAY
MADAM CHAIR YES THIS CONFUSION
AS I UNDERSTAND THIS BE FIFTY
FOUR IT ESSENTIALLY SAYS THAT.
OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT WILL NOT
AID.
IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AT.
ISIS EFFORTS TO DEPORT PEOPLE
THAT DOESN'T MEAN. I IF I SAYS.
WE HAVE A PERSON HERE THAT WE
WANT.
TO EXTRADITE OR WE WANT TO
SUPPORT.
WHO HAS COMMITTED A CRIME?
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN'T
COOPERATE WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING
IS.
AT PROP ACCUSED ME OF S. B.
FIFTY FOUR IS IS THAT. POLICE
THE POLICE ON OUR LOCAL AGENCIES
CANNOT.
GOLD TO ICE AND SAY WHAT CAN WE
DO TO HELP YOU SO THE EMPHASIS
IS VERY DIFFERENT.
BUT IT SEEMS RATHER CLEAR TO ME
THAT THAT IS
ESSENTIALLY WHAT.
S. B. FIFTY FOUR CALLED UPON
THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO
AFFIRMATIVELY ASSIST. ICE
A BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY
AGREE WITH THAT POLICY
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IF ICE
COMES TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO IGNORE
ICE.
A MY MISSING SOMETHING HERE
ACCORDING TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING
THROUGH THE CHAIR IF I MAY.
I'M YOU MAY ANSWER.
YES WE ARE CLEARLY READ SB FIFTY
FOUR DIFFERENTLY S. B. FIFTY
FOUR IN MY READ PROHIBITS.
A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS AND REHABILITATION
FROM COMMUNICATING WITH ALLIES.
REGARDING. INMATES IN CUSTODY
FOR NON IMMIGRATION VIOLATIONS
OF LAW CLASSIC EXAMPLE THAT WAS
RECENTLY WHEN THE SHERIFF OF SAN
FRANCISCO. APOLOGIZED.
FOR ALLOWING HER DEPUTIES
ALLOWING ICE TO COME INTO THE
BUILDING INTO THE JAIL AND HAVE
A CONVERSATION WITH THE PERSON
THAT WAS THERE FOR. FOR OTHER
VIOLATIONS OF LAW BUT ALSO WAS
HERE IN THE COUNTRY AND IN THE
STATE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF
DOCUMENTATION.
THANK YOU.
NOT GONNA GET INTO AN ARGUMENT
THANK YOU SIR.
CERTAINLY.
SENATOR WIENER.
BOB THANK YOU I'M AND SHARE.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS
ADULTHOOD I SUPPORTED US TO THE
POOR.
LAST YEAR WAS A CO AUTHOR AND
AND AND I I THINK IT'S GOOD
PUBLIC POLICY I. I JUST DON'T I
DON'T.
PERSONALLY SEE HOW IT IMPROVE
PUBLIC POLICY.
FOR.
PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO A.
BOB BELIEVE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS ARE ESSENTIALLY
IMMIGRATION.
IS ONSITE WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE
ABLE TO REPORT CRIMES AND. GO TO
COURT AND THE WITNESSES AND AND
FEEL WE WANT PEACE. ONE ARE
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES TO DO
POLICE OFFICERS AS.
.
AS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY PEOPLE
THAT WERE WORKING TOGETHER WITH
IN COLLABORATION TO HAVE SAFE
COMMUNITIES AND NOT AS IF I GO
TO THE. POLICE STATION I MIGHT
GET DEPORTED AND I'M NOT SEE MY
KIDS AGAIN.
.
AND.
YOU KNOW I I THINK WHEN IT
COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY AYE AYE
AYE.
YOU KNOW WE KNOW THE STUDIES
THAT THAT IMMIGRANTS HAVE LOWER
CRIME RATES AND FRANKLY WHEN WE
LOOK AT.
SOME THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES
THAT WE'RE FACING YOU KNOW
OVERWHELMINGLY THAT ITS PEOPLE
WHO WERE BORN IN THIS COUNTRY
WHO WOULD THEN GO OUT AND SHOOT
UP SCHOOLS AND SHOULD OF WAFFLE
HOUSES AND.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO WERE BORN
HERE AND.
CITY YOU KNOW I DON'T I JUST.
.
I AYE SIDE I JUST I I THINK.
I GOT SHOULD BE OUR FOCUS ON
PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY
COMMITTING.
I CRIME AND AND NOT AND.
TURNING POLICE OFFICERS INTO
IMMIGRATION AGENTS.
ALRIGHT SO AND.
WE WILL.
SEE IF THERE'S A MOTION FOR AN
AWFULLY CLOSE.
THE.
.
THE IN BUILT MOTION IS.
DO PASSED TWO PROBES I WILL NOT
BE SUPPORTING YOUR BILL TODAY
SENATOR GAINES AND.
.
THE TERM I DO NOT THINK IT'S
APPROPRIATE FOR US TO OVERTURN
SP FIFTY FOUR AND I ALSO WANTED
TO.
CLARIFY THAT EVEN OUR
CALIFORNIA STATE.
.
SPRING COURT JUSTICE.
OR SUPERIOR CALIFORNIA SUPREME
COURT JUSTICE YES.
I.
MS.
UNTIL SUCH CREATE IS VERY CLEAR
THAT.
THE.
VERY AGGRESSIVE.
ISAM HORSEMEN. IN THE STATE WITH
EVEN PRESENCE OF ICE AT AROUND
COURTROOMS
HAS AFFECTED THE ABILITY FOR.
OUR JUDICIAL PROCESSTO FUNCTION
BECAUSE OF.
FOLKS.
FEAR THAT BY GOING TO COURT WE.
NEED TO RELY ON THEM TO DO SO.
THEY MAY BE.
AT RISK OF.
BEING PICKED UP BY.
ICE
SO WHILE FIFTY FOUR CANNOT
PREVENT ACT
BECAUSE IT IS CERTAINLY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S.
ABILITY TO BE PRESIDENT BERRIES.
LOCATIONS.
CERTAINLY FIFTY FOUR IS CLEARLY
MAKING IT CLEAR THAT OUR OWN
LINE FOR THEIR STATE AND LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITIES AND
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
SHOULD BE ONLY WHERE THEY ARE
LEGALLY REQUIRED COOPERATING
WITH THIS AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT
SO.
WITH THAT
I WILL ALLOW YOU TO CLOSE AND
WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL.
I AM YEAH WE WE DO HAVE YOUR
OTHER TWO BILLS ON CONSENT.
THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT
HARM.
A THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO PRESENT MY RICHEST URGING AYE
VOTE. OKAY THANK YOU SO HAVE
BROKE OFF.
SKINNER.
NO. INTERNET ANDERSON ON
ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD.
JACKSON NO JACKSON NO MITCHELL.
MITCHELL NOSE DOWN.
WIENER.
WE ARE NOW.
WE WILL HOLD THE.
THE ROLE OPEN. AND.
.
CLICK ON THE. RIGHT. FIVE WE
WILL THE ROLE OPEN UNTIL ARE
ABSENT MEMBERS RETURN. AND I
THINK WE ARE YOU KNOW WHERE TO
PERCENT BECAUSE WE HAVE YOUR
OTHER SIGNED CONSENT CORRECT.
CORRECT THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT
CERTAINLY ON THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT WE WILL NOW.
AS I INDICATED AT THE OPENING
OF THE HEARING.
SB ELEVEN SIXTY WHICH WE HAD
HOPED WOULD BE ON CONSENT WAS.
LATE OPPOSITION SO WE HAD TO
PULL IT FROM CONSENT SO WE'LL
NOW HEAR ITEM TEN SB ELEVEN
SIXTY.
SENATOR FOR SERVICE BILL
SENATOR HUESO WELCOME.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR GOOD
MORNING. GOOD MORNING MEMBERS.
.
I'M PROUD TO PRESENT S. B.
ELEVEN SIXTY THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT BILL THAT WILL
FACILITATE THE ONGOING
PROTECTION.
OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH.
THE SAFETY IN THE GENERAL
WELFARE OF.
CASINO EMPLOYEES PATRONS AND
RESIDENTS OF THE STATE OR
ANYBODY THAT FREQUENTS A
BUSINESS.
ALL A RESERVATION LANDS.
TRESPASSING IN.
PAWN. INDIAN A GET GAMING
FACILITIES AND RESERVATIONS
LANCE IS A CONTINUOUS PROBLEM
THE POSES A SERIOUS THREAT TO
THE PUBLIC SAY SAFETY.
INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN ISSUED AN
ORDER OF EXCLUSION ARE ASKED TO
LEAVE.
THE PREMISES OFFER A VARIETY OF
REASONS SUCH AS INTOXICATION
COUNTERFEITING HARASSMENT THEFT
AND MANY OTHERS.
AT PRESENCE THERE REALLY IS NO
CONSEQUENCE OF THESE.
EXCLUSION ORDERS THERE IS NO
WAY TO ENFORCE THE LAWS IN SOME
COUNTIES THEY HAVE FOUND WAYS
AND OTHERS. OF THE COMPLEXITY OF
THE LAWS.
GOVERNING UP.
.
THESE THESE FACILITIES OFTEN
LEAD OF A POLICE ENFORCEMENT OUT
OF RESERVATION LANDS.
IT'S OFTEN AT THE DISCRETION OF
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
ENFORCE.
EXCLUSION ORDERS.
A IN IN ON RESERVATION LAND SO.
BUT THIS BILL ATTEMPTS TO.
CORRECT THAT THIS BILL.
WOULD WOULD ADD TRIBAL
EXCLUSION ORDERS ISSUED BUT BY A
DESIGNATED AGENCY OF A TRIBAL
GOVERNMENT UNDER. THE EGG
EXISTING.
DEFINITIONS OF CRIMINAL TRESPASS
IT WOULD ALIGN ALL LAW
ENFORCEMENT WITH A CLEAR AND
CONSISTENT PROCESS FOR IT.
I'M FORCING ORDERS OF EXCLUSIONS
IS ISSUED BY TRIBAL. TRIBAL
GOVERNMENT.
THIS BILL IS A A SIMPLE LONG
ORDER MEASURE THAT WILL ADD. UP
TO THE SECURITY AND ENJOYMENT OF
CASINO PATRONS AND THE PATRONS
OF BUSINESSES.
ON RESERVATION LANDS.
AND IT WOULD APPLY TO ANYONE ON
THOSE LANDS.
.
IN IS THAT YOU KNOW THEY'RE BEEN
NUMEROUS EXAMPLES OF OF WHY THIS
BILL IS NEEDED. BUT I WILL.
I WOULD'VE LIKE TO INTRODUCE.
SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT
ARE HERE PROVIDE TESTIMONY ON
WHY THIS BILL IS NEEDED. WE HAVE
A SUSAN JEFF JENSEN CHEESY
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA ENDED NATION'S GAMING
ASSOCIATION.
AND STEVE HARD AND LESS STANLEY
AS WELL. OF REPRESENTING A KEY
PART OF TRIAL ATTORNEY LIST AND
LEE IS WITH THEIR INCOME BAND
LISTENING AND INDIANS.
AM CHAIR I'M PREPARED TO MOVE
VILLAIN YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU
SENATOR ANDERSON WILL ALLOW THE
WITNESSES AND.
YOU DO HAVE A MOTION THAT AND
YOU MAY PROCEED.
MORNING CHAIRWOMAN SKINNER VICE
CHAIRMAN ANDERSON SENATORS AND
STAFF I KNOW YOU HAVE A. FULL
AGENDA SO I WON'T TAKE UP YOUR
TIME THANK YOU FOR.
YOU'RE THE HEARING I'M SEEN I
REPRESENTS A THIRTY FIVE.
MEMBER TRIBES.
THROUGHOUT THE STATE BOTH LARGE
AND SMALL.
AND WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
HEARING THIS BILL.
WITH ME TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS I HAVE STEVE HEART AND
LESS STANLEY SO IF THERE ARE ANY
QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE HERE TO
ANSWER THOSE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME. CURRY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
BRADY PARA THEIR READING
ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF THE
FEDERATED INDIANS OF GRATON
RANCHERIA AND SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING TO ROMAN SCENE IS
WITH THE UNITED AUBURN INDIAN
COMMUNITY IN STRONG SUPPORT.
EFFORT VARGAS FOR THE SHINGLE
SPRINGS TRIBE THE TO THE RIVER
TRIBE AND ALSO RECUMBENT.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
CAROLINE BILL HUNTER OF A HALF A
YOUR TODAY HE WENT TO NATION WE
HAVE A SMALL CONCERN WITH THE
LABOR PROVISION THAT'S IN THERE
NOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
OFF THEIR AND THINK THAT WE CAN
WORK THIS OUT SO. WHEN OPPOSE IN
ITS CURRENT FORM.
OTHERS.
SCOTT GOVERNOR BEHALF OF MORONGO
IN SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER.
TWEENER SUPPORT OPPOSITION.
OKAY SEEING NINE WE HAVE A
MOTION IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT.
YES MISTER IT SENATOR ANDERSON
WHO MOVED IT UP OKAY.
ALRIGHT SO SENATOR HUESO YOU MAY
CLOSE THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
AFTER.
EXCELLENT.
WE WILL DO ORACLE.
AND LEAVE MOTION IS DUE PASSED
TO THE FLOOR.
CORRECT.
APOLOGIES.
TWO PROBES.
YOU PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS GOT
IT SKINNER AYE SKINNER AYE
ANDERSON.
I'M ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL AYE STONE WIENER.
ACTUAL WILL HOLD A ROLL OPEN
BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE MISSING
MEMBERS BUT.
.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND.
WILL PROCEED WITH THE NEXT BILL
WHICH IS. SENATOR PORTANTINO'S I
BELIEVE THE SNAPS AND THAT'S
ITEM NINETEEN S. B. TWELVE SIXTY
SIX.
I'M AND WHILE ANY OTHER FOLKS
ARE COMMITTED THE TABLE WE WILL
BE BREAKING AT ELEVEN THIRTY.
AND RESUMING IN ROOM ONE
THIRTEEN AT AU ONE THIRTY.
SO.
CENTER PORTANTINO YOU MAY
PROCEED ON SP TWELVE SIXTY SIX.
THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS AND I'D
LIKE TO BEGIN BY ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS OUTLINED.
IN THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS AND I
THANK THE CHAIR AND STAFF FOR
WORKING. WITH MY OFFICE ON
NARROWING THE BILL.
.
AND GETTING INTO THE POINT WHERE
IT IS NOW WHERE OF THE MANDATORY
SENTENCING PIECES OUT AND WE'RE
FOCUSING.
JUST ON A GPS MONITORING.
FOR THOSE OF BURGLARS WHO ARE
ON PAROLE.
NEAR CALIFORNIA'S VERY LARGE
AND DIVERSE STATE.
WITH LOTS OF.
DIVERSE ISSUES THAT AFFECT
DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES IN
DIFFERENT WAYS.
.
I THINK THE STAFF HAS COME UP
WITH THE SWEET SPOT IS TO TRY TO
ADDRESS.
A DETERRENT TO BURGLARIES WHICH
AFFECT.
.
SOME COMMUNITIES IN DON'T
AFFECT OTHER COMMUNITIES AND SO
WITH ME TODAY SP ON BEHALF OF
THE BILL.
I HAVE BY JONATHAN FELDMAN FROM
THE CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION. AND WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
BECAUSE WE THINK THIS WITNESS
SWEET SPOT WELL.
ALRIGHT SO GO AHEAD YOU MAY
PROCEED WITH FROM.
CHAIR MEMBERS JONATHAN
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION.
.
SUPPORT OF THE BILL GPS
MODERNISM AND IT'S BEEN USED
AROUND THE STATE AND IS BEING
USED MORE FREQUENTLY AS OF LATE
TO HELP AS MONITOR THE A PRO
POPULATION THAT IS.
OUT ON A.
POST MEANING RELEASE
SUPERVISION.
OR OTHER TYPES OF SUPERVISION.
DIED FOLLOWING A LOT OF THE
SENATE REFORM IT'S BEEN USEFUL.
THE HELP WAS WITH LIMITED
RESOURCES TRACK THIS POPULATION.
.
KEEP TABS ON THEM YOU KNOW LOOK
AT THEIR CREDIT THEIR
WHEREABOUTS AS FAR AS HISTORY
RULE THEM OUT FOR. A RE OFFENSES
IF IF NEED BE.
I.
AND EXPAND OUR RESOURCES WISELY
I'D THEIR LOT OF PILOT PROGRAMS
I DON'T VENTURA COUNTY THEY'RE
USING ELECTRONIC MONITORING A
LOT RIGHT NOW. AFFECTIVELY I
KNOW THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE EFFICACY OF THE
TECHNOLOGY IT'S ALWAYS GETTING
BETTER.
AND WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT BUT
WE THINK IT'S A VALUABLE TOOL
ESPECIALLY IN THE CASE OF
BURGLARY. OR SOMEONE'S.
AT THEIR HOME BROKEN INTO.
YOU KNOW THE FEELING OF SAFETY
THAT'S BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU.
KNOWING THAT SOMEONE HAD
VIOLATED YOUR PERSONAL SPACE
WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FEEL
MOST SAFE AND MORE SECURE.
I DO KNOW THAT THE OFFENDERS
THAT ARE BACK ON THE COMMUNITY
ARE BEING MONITORED ARE BEING
WATCHED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT IS
INCREDIBLY. INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT.
NOT JUST FOR OUR ABILITY TO KEEP
TRACK OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS BUT
FOR THE. VICTIMS WHO HAVE BEEN.
VICTIMIZED THEMSELVES AND FOR
THAT REASON WHEN SUPPORT.
WOULDN'T GO AHEAD. A SHOT OFF IN
THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION ECHO THE
COMMENTS MADE BY.
BY MY COLLEAGUE IN BY SENATOR
PORTANTINO I WE THINK IS AN
IMPORTANT TOOL.
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR.
.
IT MONITORING THESE INDIVIDUALS
AND CRANKS PIECE MINE VICTIMS
CREATE WORK THE COMMITTEE IN.
HAVING TO NARROW THE SCOPE THE
BILL AND ASK YOUR SUPPORT.
THINK YOU WOULD SEE IF THERE'S
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
RIGHT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
WILL HAE TO AT THE TABLE SO I
THINK ONE OF YOU WILL NEED TO.
IMPART THE TABLE.
OKAY.
GOOD MORNING MIKE A DOCTOR OFF
ON BEHALF OF THE ACLU OF
CALIFORNIA I'M I'M AFRAID I
DON'T I HAVE NOT SEEN THE
AMENDMENTS THAT THE AUTHOR WAS
DISCUSSING AND SO AM I DON'T
KNOW THAT I CAN COMMENT ON THEM
QUITE YET. THURMOND WAS REMOVING
THE MINIMUM MANDATORY SENTENCE
OF A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DAYS BUT
THAT PAROLE MANDATORY.
GPS MONITORING REMAIN BILL OKAY.
SO I'M WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE
ON THE AUTHOR AND THE
COMMITTEE'S WORK ON.
NARROWING THE SCOPE OF ELLEN
REMOVING THAT MANDATORY MINIMUM
JAIL SENTENCE ON. HOWEVER WE
REMAIN OPPOSED BASED ON THE GPS
MONITORING PROVISION ON WE FEAR
THAT THE SPELL WILL REMOVE
JUDICIAL AND PEARL AGENCY
DISCRETION IN REQUIRING A PERSON
CONVICTED OF BURGLARY. TO SUBMIT
TO GPS MONITORING ON UNDER
CURRENT LAW THAT DECISION AS TO
WHETHER A PERSON MUST SUBMIT TO
MONITORING IS BASED ON THE FACTS
AND CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING
THE INDIVIDUAL BEING RELEASED.
I'M AND THIS ALSO ALLOWS PAROLE
AGENCIES TO ALLOCATE RESOURCES
APPROPRIATELY AND ONLY
ELECTRONICALLY MONITOR ON THOSE
INDIVIDUALS WHO THEY THINK
REALLY NEED TO BE ELECTRONICALLY
MONITORED AND WHERE THEY THINK
IT'LL BE I'M EFFECTIVE. ON A
BLANKET REQUIREMENT THAT ALL
PEOPLE WHO ARE CONVICTED OF
BURGLARY SUBMIT TO GPS
MONITORING. ABSENT A SHOWING
THAT SUCH MONITORING IS
NECESSARY RAISES CONSTITUTIONAL
CONCERNS AND FOR THESE REASONS.
UNFORTUNATELY WE REMAIN OPPOSED
TO THE BILL.
I CARE PIRES CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION I HAVE
PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ART
REMARKS.
I'M GLAD THAT THE MANDATORY
MINIMUM SENTENCING HAS BEEN
REMOVED.
I. DO THINK THAT THE GPS
MONITORING IS SO STILL TOO
BROAD.
A AYE I AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE
LEFT UP TO THE PAROLE AGENCY.
S. DECISION.
THE SPEAKER OF THE PROPONENT.
A TALKED ABOUT THE CONCERNED
ABOUT.
IF YOUR HOME HAS BEEN
BURGLARIZED AND THE VALUE OF GPS
MONITORING FOR THAT. THAT AS AS
WORDED UNLESS THE WORDING IS
CHANGED ITS AS A PERSON.
BOB PUNISH PURSUANT TO THIS
SECTION.
OUR WHOSE RELEASED ON PAROLE
ASTOR HAD GPS DURING PAROLE IN
THIS SECTION INCLUDE SECOND
DEGREE BURGLARY WHICH WOULD NOT
BE OUR HOME.
SO I STILL THINK IT'S TOO BROAD
ICE I'D.
TO BE FRANK I WOULD OPPOSE IT.
ARE.
IT MANDATORY GPS MONITORING
PERIOD.
BUT IT'S STILL TOO BROAD.
THE WAY IT IS WITH OUR.
WITH INCLUDING SECOND AGREES WAS
FIRST DEGREE THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU DONNA MENDELL ON
BEHALF OF SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC
DEFENDER JEFF ADACHI IN
OPPOSITION.
ANY OTHERS.
RIGHT COMMITTEE.
ON.
SENATOR MITCHELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ARE. ABOVE
APPRECIATE THAT ONE HUNDRED
EIGHTY DAYS WAS REMOVED BY THINK
THE ISSUE GOES BACK TO THE GPS
MONITORING AS I.
READ THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS ON
PAGE FOUR.
IT.
REFERS US TO THE OFFICE OF
INSPECTOR GENERAL.
REPORT ISSUED IN TWENTY
FOURTEEN ON GPS MONITORING
ALBEIT A BIT DIFFERENT OFFENDER
POPULATION.
BUT IT MAKES SOME PRETTY.
COMPELLING COMMENTS AROUND.
.
ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES.
TWO ELECTRONIC MONITORING
ADVANTAGES.
INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO LOCATE
PAROLEES TO CONDUCT UNANNOUNCED
INSPECTIONS.
AXIS HISTORICAL LOCATION
MOVEMENT DATA TO EITHER IDENTIFY
ELIMINATED PROBABLY AS A SUSPECT
A COLLECTIVITY.
.
EXCEPT ERA IT TALKS ABOUT THE
EXTRA UP BURDEN ON AGENTS WHO
ARE REQUIRED TO REVIEW GPS.
TRACKS FOR EACH WORKING DAY FOR
ALL GPS MONITORED OFFENDERS. UP
LOG YOUR TRACKING REVIEWS DALY
RESPOND AFTER HOURS ELECTION THE
GPS MONITORING CENTER.
THE. ANALYSIS FURTHER.
TALKS ABOUT REFERENCES AND NPR
REPORT THAT.
BEGINS TO SHARE WITH US THE
AVERAGE COST PER WHERE. ACROSS
TO FORTY NINE STATES THAT
REQUIRE THEIR WARES TO COVER
THEIR.
FEES ANYWHERE FROM TEN TO
FIFTEEN DOLLARS PER DAY.
ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.
.
TO THE OFFER THROUGH THE CHAIR.
IS.
YOU KNOW IN THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
ON THE AIR HISTORY THE THE LACK
OF.
YOU KNOW.
TECHNION TECHNOLOGY IS NOT
PERFECT WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT
THE ADDITIONAL WORK FLOW AND
BURDEN ON PAROLE. AS WELL AS
WHAT WE EXPECT IN CALIFORNIA TO
BE THE AVERAGE COST
PER PAROLEES.
CRITICALLY SINCE THE BILL DOES
EXPAND.
OF THE USE OF THE TECHNOLOGY TO
ALL THOSE ON PAROLE LEE WHO
THINK CONVICTED.
OF STATE CRIMES.
I THINK THERE'S TWO ISSUES
THERE'S.
THERE'S THE CRIME.
THERE'S THE DETERRENT.
AND THEN THERE'S
THE COST OF THE RESOURCE.
AND IT IS CERTAINLY A VALID
QUESTION TO TO MAKE SURE AND
ENSURE. THAT WE HAVE THE
RESOURCES THE PERSONNEL TRAINED.
THAT'S TO ME MORE OF A BUDGET
DISCUSSION THEN OF THAT A POLICY
DISCUSSION AND SO.
I'M SEPARATING THAT OUT BECAUSE
TO ME.
THIS IS DEALING WITH.
THE BURGLAR.
WHO'S ON FOR ALL AND HAVING A
DETERRENT SO THEY DON'T.
RE OFFEND.
OBVIOUSLY YOU AND I SAID ON THE
BUDGET COMMITTEE AND YOU KNOW WE
SHARE A. PASSION TO MAKE SURE
THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN EDUCATION
AND EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY
IN. THOSE DEAL WITH THOSE OTHER
TANGENTIAL ISSUES TO THIS
CONVERSATION BUT AS FAR AS THE
BUDGETING GOES I LOOK AT THAT AS
A SEPARATE ISSUE AND NOT A
REASON NOT TO ADVANCE THE
POLICY.
WHICH I BELIEVE IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT BELIEVES WILL HAVE A
DETERRING EFFECT AND WELL. AND
IT AGAIN AS.
ADVANCES IN TECHNOLOGY CONTINUE
TO GET BETTER.
THAT PART OF IT WILL ALSO GET
BETTER SO I LOOK AT THOSE A
SEPARATE ISSUES NOT. AS THE
STATE.
AND THEREFORE WILL BE ANSWERING
IT TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS POLICY
COMMITTEE MADE UP POINT ONE NO
I'M SAYING.
WILL THE RESOURCE ISSUE SHOULD
NOT BE A REASON NOT TO ADVANCE.
GOOD THE POLICY APPRECIATE THAT
YOUR PERSPECTIVE THAT'S MY
PERSPECTIVE IDENTITY ANSWER OKAY
THAT OKAY GOOD AND WELL HORSEMEN
WILL ALSO IF I COULD HAVE MY.
LET ME RESPOND TO THAT RESPONSE
PERSON AND WILL GO THEN SO ONE
ISSUE I THINK IS A POLICY ISSUE
THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED IN THIS
COMMITTEE. ON OTHER AREAS IS
BURDEN ON.
IT IS ITS FINANCIAL BURDEN ON.
THE.
.
PERSON IMPACTEDAND SO COULD YOU
ARE ARE YOU PREPARED TO ANSWER
THE QUESTION ABOUT. ACT
EXPECTATIONS ABOUT AVERAGE COST
HER PAROLEES.
I WANTED AND MURDER TO THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT FOLKS WHO ARE
SUPPORTING RIGHT TO ARE IN A
POSITION PERFECT TO IMPLEMENT IT
WHO ARE IN SUPPORT.
THROUGH THE CHAIR ALLOWS.
THE.
REDEVELOPMENT TO RESPOND.
MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU.
I.
I WOULD SAY AS FAR AS THE
RESOURCES GO YEAH THAT'S GOING
TO BE A DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE
GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE IF THIS IS
IT THE POLICY MERITS THAT THE
RESOURCE TO EXPAND. I CAN SAY
THAT WE WE TALK ABOUT INDIGENT
POPULATIONS THAT HAVE TO.
YOU KNOW I'D.
A RELEASE WITH THIS KIND OF
CONDITION AND WE TALK ABOUT I'D
COST TO THEM AND THEY PAY FOR
CAN WE HELP THEM OUT IN SOME
WAYS THEY'RE NOT BURDENED WITH
AN ADDITIONAL COST ON TOP OF THE
GPS MONITORING HIM.
.
KNOW THAT THERE ARE DEFINITELY
AVENUES PRESSED TO FIGURE OUT
HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS PRACTICALLY
IMPLEMENTABLE I UNDERSTAND THAT
FULLY AND WE WE ON THE OUTSIDE
HAVE TO DEAL WITH IMPLEMENTING
ALL THE TYPES OF CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM POLICIES THAT ARE
PASSED. SURE WE FIND OUT HOW TO
DO THEM EFFECTIVELY AND AND AND
I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE
THE AND ALL OF THIS PROPOSAL
THAT WE SEE TODAY. AND SO DOES
THAT MEAN THAT YOU WOULD BE BE
OPEN TO IN WHATEVER VENUE
APPROPRIATIONS ARE BUDGET. THAT
IF WE DETERMINE THAT THE POLICY
MAKING BODY THAT WE DON'T WANT.
THE THE BURDEN SHOULD BE ON THE
PROBABLY THEN THEN THAT'S OPEN
FOR DISCUSSION THAT YOUR PLIGHT.
YOU KNOW TRUMP.
ONE OF THE SPONSORS OF THE BILL
SO I WOULD DEFER TO THE AUTHOR I
LIFE ITO THAT I MEAN TO ME IT'S
ABOUT THE DETERRENT I GET IT.
YOU KNOW.
AND TO ME IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE
THAT WE'RE NOT OVER BURDENING
PAROLEES WHO ARE ALREADY TRYING
TO FOLLOW.
AND WE'RE NOT SURE TRYING VERY
HARD NOT TO GO BACK TO JAIL SO I
APPRECIATE THE ONE EIGHTY
MINIMUM MANDATORY WAS REMOVED.
BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT NOT SETTING
PEOPLE UP FOR FURTHER FAILURE
AND I THINK THAT IS A POLICY.
CONVERSATION WHAT IF HAVING
THANK YOU MEDICARE FOR SHADE AND
IF I COULD.
WEIGH IN ON THAT THE.
IN THE IN ONE CASE.
IT IS NOT UP TO THE CHIEF SYSTEM
WHETHER THAT CRUELLY WILL BE
CHARGED IS UP TO THE PRO. AND SO
IN OTHER WORDS STATEWIDE TROLL
SO THEY COULD CHARGE INDEPENDENT
OF WHETHER.
ALOCAL JURISDICTION WHICH FEEL
OTHERWISE THAT MAY NOT BE THE
CASE FOR THE LOWER CHARGE OF
BURGLARY THAT WOULD BE.
PAROLED BUT STILL. IT'S THERE'S.
THIS ISSUE OF.
HOW PAROLEES CHARGED AND
WHETHER?
IS NOT COMPLETELY WITHIN THE
JURISDICTION OF THE ENTITY WHO
WOULD BE PRETTY WHO.
.
WHO IS SPEAKING TO US TODAY?
SO.
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
.
ANY OTHER.
QUESTION BY.
EGGS ON THE DIET REMEMBERS GO
AHEAD SENATOR MITCHELL.
I'M CENTER PORTANTINO'S POINT
ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF THE
POLICY.
COULD YOU.
IT THE FILL THE OIG HAD THE
REPORT.
.
I REFRESH REFERENCED IT PAGE
FOUR OF OUGHT BE ANNOUNCED
SISTER THEY TALKED ABOUT THE
ADVANTAGES TO ELECTRONIC
MONITORING.
AND THEY TALK ABOUT THE
ADVANTAGES COM AT THE EXPENSE OF
CREATING TASK THAT DIVERT AGENTS
FROM DIRECT IN PERSON
SUPERVISION A PRO LEAVE.
AND AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE
WORKLOAD AND SO IT'S YOUR
OPINION MISTER PORTANTINO THAT
IT AND CAN'T CAN YOU REFER ME.
TO SOME DATA THAT SUGGESTS THAT
IT TRULY IS A DIVERSION.
AS OPPOSED TO I GUESS THE TRIED
AND TRUE ON PAROLE AGENT KIND OF
ONE ON ONE MORE. TIME TO HAVE
MORE DIRECT.
TRADITIONALPAROLE AGENT TO
PEROT LEE INTERACTION CAN YOU
DIRECT ME TO SOMETHING THAT DOES
SAY THAT IT IS A. ON THE FACT OF
ON AND AND TESTED.
.
COOL TO REDIRECT CRIMINAL
BEHAVIOR THE.
POLICE CHIEFS OF ASSURED ME THAT
THERE ARE STUDIES THAT DO SHOW.
THAT THIS IS A DETERRENT I'M.
HAPPY TO HAVE THEM.
GET THEM TO YOU I'M I DON'T
THINK IT'S AS CLEAR CUT.
FRANKLY AS THE ANALYSIS HAS
POINTED OUT BECAUSE I DO THINK
THERE'S COM COMPETING DATA AND
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE LAW
ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT FOR. THIS IS
A BALLOT MEASURE I YOU KNOW I I
TEND TO TO PUT STOCK IN.
THANK YOU.
RIGHT SO.
.
WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION YET I
BELIEVE.
SIR.
A VOTE OKAY. ALRIGHT SO. ON THE
MOTION IS
DO YOU PASS AS AMENDED TO A PRO
PEACE.
.
CENTER PORTANTINO YOU MAY CLOSE
YEAH I THINK A THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE ROBUST
CONVERSATION. ON MY THANK THE
STAFF AND THE CHAIR FOR
NARROWING THE BILL.
I DO THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM
THAT IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE.
ON THE FOREFRONT OF THE
CONVERSATION I THINK THIS IS A
WAY TO ADDRESS IT WITH A VALID
DETERRENT.
SUPPORTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
DRESSING BOTH FIRST DEGREE AND
SECOND DEGREE BURGLARY.
WHICH IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO
BE A PROBLEM AND. YOU KNOW MANY
OF YOU KNOW THAT I SPENT A LOT
OF TIME OUT. IN THE DISTRICT I
SPENT A LOT OF TIMES THROUGHOUT
LOS ANGELES COUNTY OUTSIDE OF MY
DISTRICT.
AND THIS IS A SUBJECT THAT COMES
TO MY ATTENTION.
QUITE FREQUENTLY WHETHER IT'S.
A MOM WHO'S.
HOUSES BEEN BURGLARIZED ARAB
BUSINESS SMALL BUSINESS THAT'S
BEEN BURGLARIZED OR CAR THAT'S
BEEN BURGLARIZED.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE
THIS PARTICULAR CRIME ON THE
RISE IN THE FOR HER. WE HAVE TO
HAVE A STRATEGY TO ADDRESS IT
AND THIS IS JUST ONE AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RECALL
ROLL CALL I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THE BILL TODAY AND I APPRECIATE
THAT YOUR MOVE TO MANDATORY
MINIMUMS I DO. SHARE SOME OF THE
CONCERNS ABOUT. THE.
WHILE THERE MAY BE STUDIES THAT
SHOW THE MONITORING AS A
DETERRENT THERE'RE UNFORTUNATELY
ALSO STUDIES INCLUDING.
WITHIN CALIFORNIA OF HOW. ON
PAROLE IS NOT BEEN ABLE TO
RESPOND AND THAT THE.
AND THE NUMBER OF ALERTS THAT
MAY BE INACCURATE SO.
SO SOMETIMES PEARL NOT
RESPONDING MAY NOT BE A RESOURCE
QUESTION. BUT A DECISION THAT
PERHAPS THIS IS AN INACCURATE
ALERT AND OF COURSE IF WITHOUT
RESPONSE MEAN THE WHOLE PURPOSE
OF THE GPS MONITORING WAS TO
ASSUME THAT.
THERE WOULD BE A RESPONSE AND IF
THERE IS NOT ALWAYS THEN IT'S
ALMOST.
.
DEFEATS THE PURPOSE BUT ANYWAY
SO SO I DO SHARE THOSE CONCERNS
BUT VERY MUCH APPRECIATE.
THE.
AUTHORS WILLINGNESS TO AMEND
THE BILL. AND WITH THAT.
WE SENATOR MITCHELL GO AHEAD.
LEON.
I WILL LAY OFF FIRST ROLL CALL
BUT I'M WILL SUPPORT THE BILL IF
THERE'S IF IF YOU NEED THE VOTE
TO GET IT OUT WOULD APPRECIATE
COME. IT WOULD OF BEEN HELPFUL
TODAY SINCE
THE. SINCE ONCE.
REPORT WAS INCLUDED IN THE
ANALYSIS TO THEN HAVE THE.
CONTRADICTORY REPORTS THAT WOULD
BE HELPFUL I WOULD LOVE TO BE
ABLE TO SEE THOSE AND SO OLLIE
OFF DIFFICULT OF THE QUESTIONS I
RAISED BUT IF YOU NEED TO VOTE
TO GOD THE COMMITTEE THAT I'LL
GO UP ON IT.
RIGHT WILL DO ROLL CALL.
AS AMENDED TO A PROBES
SKINNER AYE SKINNER AYE ANDERSON
NO ANDERSON NOW BRADFORD.
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON MITCHELL.
STONE.
WIENER AYE WIENER AYE.
RIGHT.
TIME YOUR BILL IS OUT IT IS
ELEVEN TEN WE HAVE TWO AUTHORS
IN THE ROOM.
BY I AM ALWAYS LOATH TO RUSH
THE HEARING OF ANY BILLS BUT IF
YOU ARE ABLE TO AUTHORS. TO GET
YOUR BILLS DONE IN TWENTY
MINUTES WE CAN HEAR THEM BOTH
BUT WE ARE CLOSING DOWN AT
ELEVEN THIRTY.
AND BELIEVE SENATOR LOWER YOUR
UP.
S. B. TWELVE TWENTY EIGHT ITEM
SIXTEEN.
NOW OTHER WORDS IF WE CAN'T DO
IT EXPEDITIOUSLY LET'S TRY THANK
YOU MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS IS YOU
KNOW NEARLY TWO THOUSAND PEOPLE
DIE EVERY YEAR IN CALIFORNIA OF
OPIOIDS OVERDOSES ON THE FIGURES
CONTINUE TO GROW. PATIENT
BROKERING IS ONE OF THE FASTEST
GROWING TYPES OF FRAUD IN
CALIFORNIA. AND IN RECENT CASES
PATIENTS WERE BEING SEXUALLY
ABUSED RIPPED OFF ARE AND. OUR
EVEN DYING IN PLACES THAT SHOULD
BE PROTECTING THEM PEOPLE COMING
OUT OF THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM ARE
ESPECIALLY AT RISK OF OVERDOSE
AND RELAPSE FOR THE FIRST TIME
IN CALIFORNIA LAW S. B. TWELVE
TWENTY EIGHT SIX TO DEFINE AND
BAD.
A BROKERING WHICH MEANS
REFERRING THE PATIENT IN
EXCHANGE FOR A KICKBACK
COMMISSION OR ANY KIND OF
ECONOMIC BENEFIT IF WE TALK
TWENTY EIGHT REQUIRES FACILITY
FACILITIES TO HAVE. NALOXONE THE
OVERDOSE PREVENTION MEDICATION
AVAILABLE WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION
AN S. B. TWELVE TWENTY EIGHT
ALSO REQUIRES LICENSE RECOVERY
PROGRAMS. TO REFER OUR PATIENTS
ONLY TO FACILITATE FACILITIES
THAT PROTECT PATIENTS FROM
PHYSICAL AND FINANCIAL ABUSE
THESE REFERRALS ALSO APPLY TO
THE ALTERNATIVE COSTLY PROGRAMS.
UNDER S. B. TWELVE TWENTY EIGHT
THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CARE.
SERVICES TO OUR SELECT AND
CERTIFY THE ORGAN AND CERTIFYING
ORGANIZATION AND ENSURE HIGH
STANDARDS FOR THESE TREATMENT
CENTERS ARE STRICTLY ASTEROID.
I YEAH I WISH I HAD THAT IN MY
NOTES YES I AM OKAY WELL GIVE
YOU THAT NOTE THINK ALRIGHT.
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
MA'AM CHAIR I'M GOING TO ENSURE
I'M PREPARED TO MOVE IT WHEN
YOU'RE READY RIGHT WE HAVE A
MOTION.
THEY ALWAYS ARE THEY ALWAYS
RECOMMEND DON'T ARGUE AGAINST OR
DON'T GO PAST YES WE DO HAVE A
MOTION GO AHEAD.
YEAH IMMINENT GERMAN LA LADY
SENATORS.
THANK YOU FOR.
WELCOMING SENATOR LARA AND
MYSELF AND.
OUR PASSION ON THIS BILL TODAY
IMAGINE THAT SOMEONE YOU LOVE
HAS A HEART ATTACK AND THE
AMBULANCE THAT PICKS THE MOB
HAS.
BEEN DETOURED BECAUSE THE
DRIVER HAS BEEN PAID TO TAKE
THEM TO A FOOT MASSAGE PARLOR.
THAT IS THE GRAVITY OF THE
SITUATION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN
TERMS OF BODY BROKERING IN THE
INDUSTRY THAT I'M PASSIONATE
ABOUT AND IT WORKED ON.
FOR MORE THAN FIFTEEN YEARS ARE
ON JULY FIFTH TWO THOUSAND TWO I
RECEIVED HELP THAT SAVED MY LIFE
I WAS A JOURNALIST AND LATE
STAGE ALCOHOLIC DRUG ADDICT AND
HAD AN EATING DISORDER. AND I
WAS ONE OF THE FORTUNATE ONES
WHO.
FOUND GOOD AN APPROPRIATE.
HELP THAT SAVED MY LIFE.
ALONG THE WAY I SAW MANY FRIENDS
AND LOVED ONES THAT HAVE DIED
BUT I GOT BETTER AND HAVE
DECIDED TO SUPPORT A SENATOR
LARA. AND THIS PUSH TO RISE UP
AND WORK FOR A MORE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT IN
THIS.
FIELD BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.
CALIFORNIANS TODAY FACE FRAUD
HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND REALLY
DARK AGES OF SCIENCE IN GREED
WHEN IT COMES TO FINDING
APPROPRIATE TREATMENT TO HELP
THEM ADDICTION MENTAL HEALTH
CHALLENGES IN EATING DISORDERS
ARE BY FAR. THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE
OF PREVENTABLE DEATH IN
CALIFORNIA THIS TOUCHES ALL OF
US EVERY FAMILY IN CALIFORNIA.
OF FURTHER FRAUD IS AN ENORMOUS
BARRIER TO THE SICK WHO WERE
JUST TRYING TO FIND APPROPRIATE
HELP.
THE BAD PLAYERS IN THIS CRISIS
UNDER THE SAME TYPES OF VOTES
RACED TO A HURRICANE ZONE AND
SET UP.
EFFORTS TO PREY UPON THE
SURVIVORS.
AS I PUT MY HEART AND SOUL INTO
BUILDING A BRIEF LIKE FEELING
CENTER CONDUCTED MORE THAN A
THOUSAND INVITATIONAL EVIDENCE
BASED INTERVENTIONS WRITING.
FIVE BOOKS IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
AND BECOMING A LEADER IN THE
FIELD I CONTINUE TO BE HORRIFIED
AT WHAT I SEE ON THE TREATMENT
SIDE OF THIS WORK SUBSTANDARD
CARE. PEOPLE DIVERTED TO FOOT
MASSAGE PARLORS AS AND METAPHOR
WHEN THEY NEED LIFESAVING CARE.
THE FRAUD RAMPANT ABUSE
MALPRACTICE AND OTHER PROBLEMS
OR THE NORM FOR MANY PLAYERS IN
THE FIELD. AND.
NO ONE HAS BEEN FIGHTING FOR
ADDICTED LOVE WANTS TO OUTLAW
THIS BEHAVIOR THESE PRACTICES IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA SO. THE.
GOODNESS OF S. B. TWELVE TWENTY
EIGHT WILL NOT ONLY BE
INEFFECTIVE A BARRIER TO PEOPLE
THAT WILL OTHERWISE BE PREYED
UPON. A LIFE AND DEATH
SITUATIONS BUT IT WILL SAVE
THOUSANDS OF CALIFORNIANS LIVES
IN SO I URGE THE SUPPORT OF THIS
INVALUABLE BILL. IN THIS FIELD
THAT.
I GOT A SECOND CHANCE IN THE
NETWORK PASSIONATELY TO HELP
OTHERS.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR P. A
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM SENATOR
ANDERSON YOU DO HAVE A MOTION
AND AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING
YOUR PERSONAL STORY.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
FOR.
MADAM CHAIR SENATORS BOBBY BRIEF
ALLOCATE DONNIE CONDONING
ASSOCIATES. REPRESENTING THE
SPONSOR OF THIS BILL RECOVERY
REFORM NOW A WE WOULD LIKE TO
THANK US SENATOR LARA. AND.
BRAD LAMB WHO TESTIFIED JUST
NOW.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ASSOCIATE.
ASSOCIATE OUR WORDS WITH THE
PREVIOUS SPEAKERS WITH THAT
THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
HELLO MADAM CHAIRMAN SENATORS.
JACO KENYA ON BEHALF OF COMPANY
COUNCIL OF COMMUNITY BE FOR HOPE
AGENCIES IN SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER.
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
RIGHT SEEING NINE YOU WANT TO
CLOSE SENATOR LARGE WE HAVE A
MOTION AGAINST REFERENCE FOR I
HAVE A GREAT LET'S.
.
A GROUP OF.
ENTER I SKINNER AYE ANDERSON AYE
ANDERSON AYE BRADFORD PARK.
BRADFORD AYE JACKSON MITCHELL UP
MITCHELL AYE STONE WIENER AYE
FREER AYE.
FREE. YOUR BILL IS STILL ON A
CALLED BECAUSE ONLY ES MAPS AND
MANY COMMISSION MEMBERS. THANK
YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THANK YOU FOR.
YOUR TESTIMONY WILL NOW GO TO
SENATOR PANTS BILL.
SP THIRTEEN NO THREE.
GO AHEAD SENATOR VAN A THANK YOU
ARE.
IF YOU MATTER WE ARE YOU HAVE A
WE WANNA END IN FOURTEEN
MINUTES.
ACTUALLY IF THE OPPOSITION
WHICH IS THE STANDOUT OF YOU
HAVE TO DO THAT.
SO I THINK YOU CENTER.
CHAIR CENTERS I S. B. THIRTY NO
THREE WILL REQUIRE MEDICAL
EXAMINER'S OFFICE TO BE
ESTABLISHED IN LIEU OF A SHARE
OF CORNER AND COUNTIES WITH
POPULATION OF FIVE HUNDRED
THOUSAND OR MORE. AND ARE NOT
CHARTER I COUNTIES.
CURRENTLY CALIFORNIA'S ONE THE
LAST STATES TO MAINTAIN A SHARE
OF CORNER MODEL TO INVESTIGATE
SUSPICIOUS THAT'S
IN THIS MILD TO SHARE. IS
CHARGED WITH CONDUCTING
AUTOPSIES AND INVESTIGATE
SUSPICIOUS DEATHS INCLUDING
THOSE INVOLVING A LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
CURRENTLY THE MAJORITY OF
CALIFORNIA COUNTIES OPERATOR
CHEF CORNER MODEL WHEREBY THE
SHERPAS RESPONSIBLE
INVESTIGATING SUSPICIOUS DEATH
THIS IS UNLIKE MOST OF THE REST
OF THE COUNTRY WHERE A
INDEPENDENT.
MEDICAL EXAM WHO'S A FORENSIC
PATHOLOGIST IS THE EXPERT.
SO WHILE IT LICENSE POSITION
MUST CONTACT THE AUTOPSY ITSELF
THE DETERMINATION THE MANNER OF
DEATH WHERE THERE'S AN AXE IN
HOMICIDE AFTER BECAUSE IT IT'S
BETTER REMAINS VESTED THE
SHERIFF CORNER. THIS MEANS THAT
UNDERSHERIFF CORNER MODEL
SOMEONE WITH NO MEDICAL
BACKGROUND CAN OVERRULE A BOARD
CERTIFIED FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST
AS PERTAINS TO THE MANNER OF
DEATH DETERMINATION.
S. B. THIRTY NO THREE IS IN
RESPONSE TO ALLEGATIONS OF
IMPROPER INFLUENCE OF THE
MEDICAL TERMINATIONS OF
POSITIONS CONTACTING AUTOPSIES
FOR SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY BUT ALSO
NOTE THAT THIS A PROBLEM WE'VE
HEARD FROM OTHER COUNTIES AS
WELL.
IN SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY TO
QUALIFIED FORENSIC PATHOLOGISTS
RESIGNED IN LATE TWENTY
SEVENTEEN ALLEGING THAT THE
SHERIFF CORNER PRESSURED THEM
INTO CHANGING THEIR FINDINGS
REPORTS OUTLINING THE CAUSE AND
MANNER OF DEATH OF INDIVIDUALS
INVOLVED IN OFFICER RELATED
DEATHS.
THE POSITIONS ALSO ALLEGE THAT
THE CRITICAL INFORMATION WAS
WITHHELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF
FRUSTRATING THEIR ABILITY TO
ACCURATELY DETERMINE THE TYPE
AND MANNER OF AN INDIVIDUAL
STAFF.
ENSURING THAT AUTOPSIES ARE CAN
DONE IN AN ETHICAL ECHOED ALL
MANNER IS ESSENTIAL IN ASSURING
CONFIDENCE IN OUR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM.
THESE AUTOPSIES ARE OFTEN THE
BASIS FOR CRIMINAL CHARGES AND
IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE PUBLIC
GAIN. THE NECESSARY FACTS TO
DETERMINE AND FALL. DETERMINE
FAULT THE DELIVER JUSTICE
ADDITIONALLY CLINICAL
DETERMINATIONS MADE BY
PHYSICIANS MUST BE FREE FROM
UNDUE INFLUENCES.
CERTAINLY OUR AUTOPSIES AND THE
NET PEOPLE CONDUCT THEM IN THOSE
REPORTS THEY SHOULD NOT BE THE
IN FAVOR OF THE PROSECUTION
THEY'RE NOT REPRESENT THE
PROSECUTION OR THE DEFENSE THEY
SHOULD BE INDEPENDENT FINDINGS
OF FACT.
S. B. THIRTY NO THREE IS A VITAL
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM BY
INSULATING THE POSITIONS. FROM%
UNDUE PRESSURE INTRUSION BY
INDIVIDUALS NO MEDICAL TRAINING
POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.
THE DAY I HAVE WITH ME TO
TESTIFY ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES.
DOCTOR AMAL LOU WITH THE UNION
VATICAN POSITION DESKS WHO WAS
THAT. FORMALLY EFFORTS
PATHOLOGIST AT THAT SAME CAN
COUNTY AND GEORGE BENTLY FOR THE
CONSUMERS ATTORNEY SAYS THE
ASIAN.
ESPECIALLY ASK WHEN I BUT.
YOU MAY PROCEED OUT OF IT OFTEN
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME
ON DR BENNETT TO MY LITTLE OF
LAST YEAR I'VE RECEIVED THE
DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD FROM
DE.
AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
WHICH IS THE HIGHEST AWARD ANY
PHYSICIAN COOLEY SAVE IN THE
UNITED STATES.
I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE SO FAR MY
CHILDREN AND YOUR CHILDREN.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF OUR. PUBLIC TRUST
PUBLIC CONFIDENCE.
FONDA PUBLIC INTEREST.
UNFORTUNATELY IN THE PAST MONTH
I'VE RECEIVED AT LEAST TWENTY
CALLS FROM AT LEAST TWENTY
DIFFERENT FAMILIES THE LAST ONE
I RECEIVED WAS THIS MORNING FROM
MY NAP TUNNEY. WHOSE MOTHER HAD
JUST DIED.
TELL IMMEDIATE NEED A SECOND
AUTOPSY BECAUSE THEY DO NOT
TRUST THE SHERIFF COHEN A
SYSTEM.
UP IN NINETEEN TWENTY EIGHT
I HAVE A PAPER HERE DOLLARS
PUBLISHED THIS IS ACTUALLY A
COPY OF THE ACTUAL PAPER. THE
NATIONAL ACADEMIES OF SCIENCE
SPEAKER DADDY SHARIF GOVERNOR
SYSTEM MUST WE HAVE IT. ISN'T
CONSISTENT ON INCOMPATIBLE WITH
MODERN SCIENCE
THAT HE SHOULD BE ELIMINATED ARE
REPLACED WITH A MEDICAL EXAMINER
SYSTEM.
IN NINETEEN FIFTY FOUR THE
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE OF THE
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
THEATER DISTINCTLY. IN NINETEEN
FIFTY FIVE DID JOURNAL OF
CRIMINAL LAW AND CRIMINOLOGY
STATED THE SAME THING. IN TWO
THOUSAND AND FOUR P. IN NATIONAL
INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OF THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
TWO THOUSAND AND NINE AND TWO
THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN IN TWO
THOUSAND AND SIXTEEN. HOW
FINALLY JUST LAST YEAR THE CHIEF
OF POLICE DEBATE BROWN OF
DOLLARS STATED? LEADING THE
TWENTY FIRST CENTURY WE SHOULD
BEGIN TO PROFESSIONAL LA HE'S
THE POLICE.
BODY BELAY SHOULD NOT BE
INVOLVED IN TAKING CALLS WHEN
PEOPLE LASIK EYE EVEN THE.
DETERMINING MEDICAL COSTS ON
MONO OF DEATH.
TO DATE IN AMERICA WE HAVE A
DESK COST CITY A FORENSIC
PATHOLOGIST.
BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA.
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS THE
LARGEST STATE IN AMERICA WE DO
POPULATION OFF THAT TO SEVEN
MEANING.
BUT IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
WE GUN HOW THE MEDICAL EXAMINER
SYSTEM OUTSIDE THREE MAJOR
POPULATION NAVIOS. SON DIEGO SAN
FRANCISCO OR LOS ANGELES
A STATE LIKE ME SOLVE WE OFFER
POPULATION OF NINETEEN MEDIAN.
HOUSE TO TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR
FORENSIC PATHOLOGISTS.
CALIFORNIA DOT HOUSE FOUGHT
CURRENTLY POPULATION OF ME SORRY
HOUSE ONLY TO. TRAINING PROGRAMS
BECAUSE A SHERIFF CON MORE
TRAINING FOR A SUPERPOWER JUST.
THIS STATE TOP NOTCAROLINA
WITCHES SIXTEEN MEAN PANAMANIAN.
PLATE TYPES LESS THE POPULATION
OF CALIFORNIA HOUSE WE TRAINING
PROGRAMS FOR FORENSIC
PATHOLOGISTS.
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HOUSE
ONLY TO PECK SAYS THE HOUSE
TWENTY SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE.
PASS FIVE TRAINEE POSITIONS FOR
FORENSIC PATHOLOGISTS CALIFORNIA
WE TEND TO SEVEN MEDIAN HOUSE
ONLY TWO. AND ONLY TWO TRAINING
PROGRAMS WE HOP ON LOS ANGELES
AND SAN DIEGO WHICH A MEDICAL
EXAMINER'S OFFICES.
SO BECAUSE CALIFORNIA DB GO
STATE TO MEMORY BECAUSE THEY
LIKE JUST ECONOMY.
BECAUSE WE HAVE REFUSED TO
CHANGE A VERY PRIMITIVE SYSTEM
WE ALL SUFFER ENFORCEMENT. DOES
THIS COST CITY OF FORENSIC
PATHOLOGISTS AND ONLY A MEDICAL
EXAMINER SYSTEM CONTRA
PATHOLOGIES.
AND THIS ALSO AFFECTS
MEDICAL CARE.
I DISCOVERED CHRONIC TRAUMATIC
ENCEPHALOPATHY.
I DISCOVERED THE MECHANISMS OF
INFECTION UP TO WEST NILE VIRUS
IN THE HUMAN BRAIN.
I DISCOVERED ABOUT WE HAVE TO
DECIDE YOU PETITIONS HAVE SIX
TIMES THE SUICIDE RATE OF THE
LASH NORMAL POPULATION.
ALL BECAUSE OF THE AUTOPSY WHICH
IS THE MOST POWERFUL RESEARCH
TOOL. IN MADISON IN THE PAST
HUNDRED YEARS I WENT TO SUCH.
DOES NOT BE NONE THE SHERIFF AND
CALIFORNIA INTO POP ONE HUNDRED
YEARS ANNOUNCED PUBLISHED A
SINGLE SCIENTIFIC PEOPLE.
YOU GO TO WAN MEDICAL EXAMINER'S
OFFICE IN NEW YORK CITY.
BUT PUBLISHED HOUSE AND.
IN FACT I HAVE A PAPER HERE
WHERE I'M WALKING WITH AUTUMN
MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE AS AN
ODD DUCK STATES.
I PUBLISHED IN A PAPER ON
SUICIDE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT SUICIDE PATTERNS
OVER TWENTY YEARS IN THE BIG
CITY.
A MOVE DISCOVERED BETTER NOW
CHANGES MECHANISMS OFF SWITCH
SIDES AND A POPULATION.
BIZARRE DO PUBLIC HEALTH
IMPACTS.
BUT POLICE OFFICERS DO NOT DO
DESPITE WHAT WALK.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN
TOLD SINCE NINETEEN TWENTY.
BEFORE I REST MY CASE YESTERDAY
SOMEBODY SAID TO ME BUT THEM UP
ON US STATES WHERE YOU HAVE
SHOWN IF COLONISTS.
THE HARD HITTING DISTILLERS
SADAKO OGATA. INTERESTED OF
MONTANA. MONEY INTO STATE OF
NEVADA.
INSTEAD OF MONTANA HAS A
POPULATION OF ONE MEDIA SOUTH
DAKOTA EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND
NEVADA THREE MEDIA.
SO WOULD YOU WANT CALIFORNIA TO
BEGIN TO BE KEEPING COTTON WHICH
SAU DUCK QUARTER.
THIS STATE OF ALABAMA.
MISSISSIPPI DOT MEDICAL EXAMINER
SYSTEM IS MUCH BETTER DUNDEE
SYSTEM WE HAVEN'T CALIFORNIA. WE
DON'T ONE GUY I APPRECIATE YOUR
PASSION BUT I WANT TO GO TO THE
NEXT WITNESS
ONLY BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO
WRAP UP AT ELEVEN THIRTY AND I
DON'T WANT TO TAX CUTS OTHER
SOFT.
NEXT WITNESS IN CUBA MADAM CHAIR
IN SENATORS MY NAME IS GREG
BENTLEY AND I'M THE IMMEDIATE
PAST PRESIDENT OF THE CONSUMER
ATTORNEYS OF CALIFORNIA. AND THE
CONSUMER ATTORNEYS OF CALIFORNIA
SUPPORT SP THIRTEEN OF THREE.
THE INDEPENDENT C. OBJECTIVITY
AND COMPETENCY IN COUNTY
PERFORMED AUTOPSIES IS PARAMOUNT
TO ENSURE PUBLIC TRUST.
THE MEDICAL EXAMINER MODEL BEST
INSURERS THIS BY ESTABLISHING
THAT.
FOLLOW JUST WILL ACTUALLY
CONDUCT THESE EXAMINATIONS AND
TAKE IT OUTSIDE OF THE POLITICAL
INFLUENCE OF THE SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT.
I'M CURRENTLY HANDLING A CASE
THAT CAME TO THE ATTENTION
THROUGH THE PUBLIC WITH DOCTOR
AMAL THOSE RETIREMENT. I'M THE
FAMILY ATTORNEY FOR.
THE WRONGFUL DEATH CLAIM
AGAINST THE CITY OF STOCKTON
POLICE DEPARTMENT INVOLVING
AVELLINO CORDOVA CUEVAS.
CONSISTENT WITH DEPARTMENT
POLICY SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY
CORONER HAD AN AUTOPSY PERFORMED
AND UNBEKNOWNST TO ME IT WAS
DONE BY DR AMALA. DR AMALA
PERFORMED THE AUTOPSY
INCONSISTENT WITH CUSTOM AND
PRACTICE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
ON COUNTY OF SAN JOAQUIN
LETTERHEAD. UTILIZED A CAUSATION
SHEET WHEN HE WAS CONDUCTING THE
AUTOPSY.
ON THAT CAUSATION SHEET DOCTOR
MARLOWE WROTE DOWN THE CAUSE AND
MANNER OF DEATH CIRCLED IT IS
HOMICIDE AND CHECK THE BOX
HOMICIDE.
WE ISSUED SEVEN LETTERS
REQUESTING THE DOCUMENTS FROM
SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY SHERIFF WE
ISSUED A SUBPOENA FOR DOCUMENTS
AND WE SHOULD TO DEPOSITION
SUBPOENAS AND THEN WE FINALLY
TOOK THE SUBPOENA OF DOCTOR AMAL
ARE THE DEPOSITION OF DOCTOR
RAMALLO. JUST LAST FEBRUARY
COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
WE WERE SHOCKED TO FIND OUT THAT
D. SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY SHERIFF
DID NOT PRODUCE BECAUSE SHE THAT
DR AMALA PREPARED DURING HIS
AUTOPSY.
INSTEAD WHAT THEY PRODUCED
PURSUANT TO THE SUBPOENA IN THE
LETTERS WAS AN AUTOPSY REPORT
THAT CLAIMED THIS WAS AN
ACCIDENT OF AN OFFICER INVOLVED
DEATH INSTEAD OF A HOMICIDE.
THE CONFLICT HERE IS HUGE PUBLIC
TRUST DEMANDS THAT THERE'S AN
INDEPENDENT SEE. WE BELIEVE THAT
S. B. THIRTEEN OH THREE IS A
MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IT'S
A MOVE TO ENSURE TRUST AND
CONFIDENCE IN THE PROCEDURE AND
WE ASK FOR YOUR YES VOTE.
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AT
THE MIKE.
MR TOM'S ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION WERE CO
SPONSOR THIS BILL WOULD LIKE TO
THANK DOCTOR MARLOWE FIRST TIME
THANK YOU.
MICHAEL RIGHT AGAIN ON BEHALF
OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
SANTA CLARA COUNTY IN SUPPORT.
BOB ACKERMAN BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA'S IT PATHOLOGISTS IN
SUPPORT.
ERIC BUYERS ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
JOSHUA VOCAL WITH THE AMERICAN
FEDERATION OF STATE COUNTY AND
MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES IN SUPPORT.
ALRIGHT ANY OTHER IN SUPPORT.
ALRIGHT LET'S HEAR WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
MORNING MOUNTAIN RANGE FROM OF
THE RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION WERE WORKING WITH.
CENTERS OFFICE I WE'VE GOT SOME
CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS THAT
PROPOSED CHANGE WOULD IMPACT.
OUR MEMBERS LE.
HE COULD DEPUTY CORNERS ARE
COUNTY SO LOOK FOR THE
CONTINUING THOSE TALKS AND A.
WERE WOULD REMAIN OFFICIALLY
POST STILL STUCK I THINK YOU.
RIGHT SIX WITNESS.
GOOD MORNING JESSICA OF ATTEND
THE ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES
UNFORTUNATELY IN OPPOSITION.
COUNTIES CURRENTLY HAVE THE
ABILITY TO CREATE OFFICE OF THE
MEDICAL EXAMINER.
SPECIFICALLY GOVERNMENT CODE
TWENTY FOUR ZERO TEN PROVIDE THE
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE
AUTHORITY.
TO CREATE AN OFFICE OF THE
MEDICAL EXAMINER TO BE APPOINTED
BY THE BOARD. COUNTY THROUGHOUT
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAVE
CONSIDER WHAT MODEL WORKS BEST
FOR THE PEOPLE IN THEIR
COUNTIES.
WE HAVE HAD COUNTIES EXERCISE
THE AUTHORITY DEFEAT NAY MEDICAL
EXAMINER'S OFFICE IS COUNTIES
INCLUDE SAN DIEGO LOS ANGELES
SAN FRANCISCO. VENTURA AND MOST
RECENTLY SANTA CLARA.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE
BEEN COUNTY THAT HAVE CONSIDERED
THIS CHANGE LIKE CINEMA.
AND COUNTIES ARE CURRENTLY
CONSIDERING MAKING THIS CHANGE
LIKE THEY'RE WALKING COUNTY
WHOSE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. IS
AS WE SPEAK HEARING FROM ACCESS
AN INDEPENDENT EXPERTS.
WHO CONDUCTED A REVIEW AN AUDIT
OF THEIR CORONER'S OFFICE?
AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO
MAKE THE DETERMINATION IF
THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE
MEDICAL EXAMINER MODEL.
THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE FOR THE
COUNTIES AND THE ARGUMENTS MADE
HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THIS
LEGISLATION. CERTAINLY AMERICAN
FEDERATION BUT THAT
CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE MADE BY
THE INDIVIDUAL PART OF
SUPERVISORS.
THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION
OF COUNTIES BELIEVE THAT THIS
BILL UNNECESSARILY REMOVED
COUNTIES LOCAL CONTROL TO DECIDE
HOW TO ORGANIZE OUR OPERATIONS
AND HOW TO BEST SERVE THEIR
COMMUNITIES BOTH
ADMINISTRATIVELY AND FISCALLY.
AND I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR KNOW
ABOUT.
THANK YOU.
GREGORY RIGHT OUT SORRY DOCTOR
GREGORY RIPER.
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE.
CALIFORNIA STATE CORNERS
ASSOCIATION.
JUST INTRODUCE MYSELF A LITTLE
BIT I'VE BEEN IN PRACTICE IN
FORENSIC PATHOLOGY IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA FOR THIRTY TWO
YEARS.
SEEN OVER ELEVEN THOUSAND CASES
THAT I PERSONALLY EXAMINED. ARM
AND DOWN.
AS AN ORGANIZATION I REPRESENT
WOULD RESPECTIVELY OUR
RESPECTFULLY I OPPOSE THIS
LEGISLATION. ARMS FOR SOME OF
THE REASONS AT THE PREVIOUS.
WITNESSES PRESENTED I THINK
COUNTIES ARE IN THE BEST
POSITION TO
SIR TO TO DECIDE WHAT BEST
SERVES THEIR CITIZENS.
ALSO I THINK THERE'S A
SOMETIMES A BIT OF CONFUSION
ABOUT WHERE THE EXPERTISE REALLY
LIES IN DETERMINATION OF THE
MANNER OF DEATH AS OPPOSED TO
CAUSE OF DEATH I THINK THERE'S
ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION THE CAUSE
OF DEATH IS A MEDICAL ISSUE.
SHOULD BE DETERMINED BY A
PHYSICIAN WHETHER IT'S AN
ATTENDING PHYSICIAN A CLINIC
SETTING WHETHER IT'S AN AUTOPSY
PHYSICIAN IN A FORENSIC
PATHOLOGY SETTING. MANNER OF
DEATH HOWEVER BECAUSE ON A
DIFFERENT TYPE OF EXPERTISE THAT
IS LARGELY INVESTIGATIVE AND
NATURE.
AND IN MANY SITUATIONS LAW
ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL REALLY DO
HAVE THE REQUISITE EXPERIENCE TO
CONDUCT.
THE TYPE OF INVESTIGATION AND
INQUIRY INTO THE CIRCUMSTANCES
FOR.
SURROUNDING AND DEATH.
THAT REALLY FORMS THE BASIS FOR
MANNER OF DEATH.
MANNER OF DEATH IS NOT REALLY
DETERMINED. IN THE AUTOPSY ROOM
IT'S REALLY DETERMINED. BY AT
THE SCENE INTERVIEWING WITNESSES
SO ON AND SO FORTH AND THAT IS.
.
MORE OF A LAWN FORSMAN FUNCTION
THAN A MEDICAL FUNCTION.
ARM AND I THINK THE SHERIFF
CORNER MODEL A WIN IT IS A WELL
RUN. REPRESENTS TAKING ADVANTAGE
OF THE STRENGTHS OF BOTH SIDES
OF THE EQUATION YOU HAVE THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THE OFFICE.
DOING THE INVESTIGATION WHICH
FORMS THE BASIS OF MANNER OF
DEATH DETERMINATION YOU HAVE THE
MEDICAL SIDE OF THE OFFICE THE
PATHOLOGY STAFF.
PERFORMING THE AUTOPSIES AND
DETERMINING CAUSE OF DEATH OF
THOSE TWO SIDES DO NEED TO
COMMUNICATE TO COME UP WITH A
GOOD. THE CONCLUSION ON BOTH OF
THOSE.
I AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN BOTH
INFORMED THE OTHER. ARE IN A
DROWNING FOR EXAMPLE I CAN'T
DETERMINE A DROWNING TO BE THE
CAUSE OF DEATH MOST OF THE TIME
AN AUTOPSY LONG WITHOUT KNOWING
THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH
THAT PERSON WAS FOUND.
BECAUSE THE AUTOPSY FINDINGS ARE
COMPLETELY NONSPECIFIC.
WELL I CAN RULE OUT A LOT OF
OTHER THINGS BY CANNOT ESTABLISH
DROWNING WITH OUT A GOOD
INVESTIGATION AND THAT IS DONE
AGAIN BY. THE OF THE
INVESTIGATIVE SIDE OF THE
DEPARTMENT. ARE SO ESTABLISHING
MEDICAL EXAMINER SYSTEMS PUTS A
PHYSICIAN WHO MAY NOT HAVE
INVESTIGATIVE TRAINING.
ARE IN CHARGE OF DETERMINING AN
INVESTIGATIVE.
COMPONENT OF THE DEATH
CERTIFICATE WHICH IS THE MANNER
OF DEATH MAY NOT BE THE BEST OR
MOST ADVANTAGEOUS A SITUATION.
I AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN
OVER OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
AND AND PUBLIC.
CONCERN OVER COPS COVERING FOR
COPS BASICALLY.
OUR MEDICAL EXAMINER SYSTEMS.
HAVE THE OTHER.
CHALLENGE OF DOCTORS PROTECTING
DOCTORS THERE ARE MANY MORE
HOSPITAL DESTINED OFFICER
INVOLVED DOUBTS.
IN ARE JURISDICTIONS IN THE
STATE ARE AND SO HAVING A
MEDICAL EXAMINER SYSTEM RAISES
THE POSSIBILITY IN THIS ACTUALLY
HAPPENS.
ARE OF A MEDICAL EXAMINER BEING
ACCUSED OF COVERING FOR DOCTORS
AND HAVING A CONFLICT OF
INTEREST IN INVESTIGATING
HOSPITAL BASED DEATH.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION.
MADAM CHAIR OTHER MEMBERS POLIO
OR SHUDDERING THREE AND THE SAN
JOAQUIN COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS WHO WE REPRESENT IS
ALSO OPPOSED TO THIS BILL.
URINALYSIS NOTES THAT.
THIS BILL CONTRARY TO HOME RULE
AND THAT EVERY SHERIFF IS
ELECTED COULD I ALSO NOTED ALL
FIVE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS SURE LIKED ENOUGH TO
STAND FOR THE VOTERS.
AS A WITNESS FROM C. SECT
TESTIFIED.
OUR CLIENT IS CURRENTLY
LITERALLY AS IS HEARING IS GOING
ON HEARING A CONSULTANT'S REPORT
AN INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT PORT.
THAT THE BOARD HIRED TO DO A
REVIEW OF. AND TO MAKE
SUGGESTIONS BACK TO THE BOARD ON
HOW THE BOARD SHOULD ORGANIZE
THESE OFFICES GOING FORWARD. TO
THEIR GIVEN THE STEVEN THOUGHT
AND CONSIDERATION WE REALLY NEED
PEOPLE TO ABSOLUTELY MADAM
CHAIRPERSON DIDN'T WHEN I WOULD
RECOMMEND THAT OPPOSE POSITION
AND A NO VOTE THANK YOU.
NICOLE ORDER MEN ON BEHALF OF
THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS ALSO IN OPPOSITION.
LIEUTENANT FELISA WILLIAM SALMON
INDIAN AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT ON
BEHALF OF SHERIFF MCMAHON IN
OPPOSITION.
JOINT OF ORSON BEHALF THE URBAN
COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIAN
OPPOSITION.
ELIZABETH ESPINOSA HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ALSO
OPPOSED.
LUCIA MUCH ROBBIE HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION.
ALRIGHT DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
OKAY.
.
MEMBERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE.
COMMITTEE.
RIGHT DO WE HAVE A MOTION BEFORE
WE ASK RIGHTS WE HAVE THE MOTION
IS.
DO YOU PASS.
TO APPROPRIATIONS AND SENATOR
PAN YOU MAY CLOSE.
THANK YOU.
I DID I WOULD JUST THAT MAKE
NOTE THAT.
FIRST OF ALL I. THE INSINUATION
THAT MEDICAL EXAMINERS BEING
JUST PHYSICIANS WOULD BE
COVERING FOR OTHER POSITIONS.
I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE
PROBLEM IS THE MEDICAL EXAMINER
IN THIS CASE ARE THE FORENSIC
PATHOLOGISTS ACTUALLY THE
EMPLOYEES.
THE SHERIFF
CORNER AND WE HAVE EVIDENCE OF
ACTUAL AND AND.
OF.
MANIPULATION OF THE FINDINGS
AND I THINK THIS UNDERMINING OF
OUR.
OF TRUST IN THE PUBLIC JUSTICE
AND SYSTEM.
OF THOSE FINDINGS I THINK A
ASSEMBLY WEEK WE HAVE A DUTY AS
US AS A STATE LEGISLATORS TO
ENSURE JUSTICE AND OF WHILE IF
THE COUNTIES ARE GOING TO STEP
UP.
AND FACT WE HAVE STUDIES GOING
ALL THE BACK NINETEEN TWENTY
EIGHT SO APPRECIATE ANOTHER
COUNTY WANT TO DO A STUDY. AND
LOOK AT STUDY WE HAVE NUMEROUS
THEY SHOW AND ACTUALLY THE REST
OF THE COUNTRIES THERE WE HAVE A
MEDICAL EXAMINER SYSTEM THAT AND
DATA TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE
JUSTICE HERE IS THAT
CALIFORNIA'S DIRECTLY ASK WHEN I
THOUGHT IT.
FROM THANK YOU.
DOCTOR PAN CINDER MITCHELL IF
QUESTION GO AHEAD PLEASE FORGIVE
ME FOR.
.
WHEN IN LATE AYE I'M CURIOUS.
ON HOW WE WOULD MANAGE IF YOUR
BILL WOULD BECOME LAW DOCTOR
PAN.
YEAH I IN A SITUATION WHERE
THERE IS A NATIONWIDE AS I
UNDERSTAND. SHORTAGE BOMB OF THE
THOUGHT IS WHAT WHERE WOULD THAT
LEAVE COUNTIES IF IF YOU'RE
BECAUSE BILL BECOMES LAW.
THROUGH THE CHAIR TO DOCTOR PAN
HOW WHAT WOULD BE DO.
SHARE FOR FIRST OF ALL I WOULD
MAKE NO TO THAT OF ONE THE
CHALLENGES RECRUITING.
I
FORENSIC PATHOLOGISTS TO THE
CITY CALIFORNIA FRANKLY IS THAT.
MOST BECAUSE OF THAT THE MOST
THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IS A
MEDICAL EXAMINER SYSTEM WHERE
PEOPLE KNOW THAT AFTER YOU SPENT
ALL THOSE YEARS OF TRAINING. AND
ALL THAT EXPERTISE THAT YOU
HEARD THAT.
USER YOUR JUDGMENT AND YOUR
SKILLS CAN BE USED TO FOLKS THAT
DON'T COME TO CALIFORNIA TO WORK
FOR SHERIFF CORNER.
THAT THAT THA THAT THAT SHE'S
RECRUITING PROBLEM FOR THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW BECAUSE
UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT
SITUATION.
MANY.
VERY TALENTED PROPOSITIONS ARE
SOME EXCEPTIONS I APPRECIATE THE
DOCTOR MOLLY DECIDE TO COME TO
CALIFORNIA BUT WE WE HAVE SOME
CHALLENGES RECRUITING HERE
BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW. BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S
A NATIONWIDE SHORTAGE NOT JUST
CALIFORNIA IT'S A NATIONWIDE
SHORTAGE AND ACTUALLY. IT'S NOT
A NATION WIDE SHOT H. IT'S A
SHOT AS DISTINCTIVE TO THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA OKAY BECAUSE IT'S
QUICK ONE. IF YOU HAD SUFFICIENT
THANK YOU.
RIGHT TO THEIR MITCHELL YOU
THANK YOU OKAY YES.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN THE
GUISE OF THEM WE WILL HAVE A
ROLL CALL AS I MENTIONED THE
MOTION IS TO PASS THROUGH
APPROPRIATIONS.
SKINNER AYE SKINNER AYE
ANDERSON.
ANDERSON NO BRADFORD BRADFORD
AYE JACKSON MITCHELL.
MITCHELL AYE STONE.
WIENER.
RIGHT WE WILL HOLD THE ROLE
OPENED. AND.
WE ARE.
BREAKING NOW UNTIL.
ONE TIRTY THERE'S ABOUT NINE
BILLS LEFT IF I HAVE MY
GREYHOUND TO ACCURATELY WILL BE
IN ROOM ONE THIRTEEN THANK YOU
SO MUCH