A.
SUBCOMMITTEE NUMBER FIVE MINOR
BUDGET UP PUBLIC SAFETY IN
JUDIIARY. ARE HEARING TODAY IS
ON THE JUDICIAL BRANCH
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
AND WE HAVE ON OUR.
FIRST SET OF ITEMS ARE SOME VOTE
PHONE LEAVE THOUGH I UNDERSTAND
THAT.
SENATOR ANDERSON YOU MIGHT WANT
TO PULL.
PAUL YOU WANT A PULL FOR
DISCUSSION ISSUE FOR. AND THEN
YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS.
.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING
ELSE OTHER THAN OKAY SO SO WILL
PULL ISSUE FOR.
AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IF.
.
MY MEMBERS ARE WILLING WE WOULD
ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT IS VOTE
ONLY FOR ISSUE ONE ISSUE TWO
WILL VOTE ON THAT AND THEN WE'LL
SEPARATELY VOTE ON ISSUE. THREE
HAS THAT PERFECT OKAY SO TO HAVE
A MOTION ON ISSUE ONE INTO.
THOSE TWO EXCELLENT BOW FIRST
READER OF ROLL CALL.
ESTABLISHED A QUORUM AND ALL
THAT.
CENTER SKINNER I'M HERE THEIR
ANDERSON.
I THOUGHT ABOUT.
RIGHT NOW WE WILL GO TO THAT
WOULD VOTE. GREAT WE HAVE A
MOTION ON.
.
ISSUE ONE INTO UNDER THE
JUDICIAL BRANCH.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THOSE.
ARE.
BUT.
THE OVERSIGHT BEFORE MORAL CALL
BUT THAT'S OKAY LIKE CONSENT
CALENDAR.
NOW WILL GO TO ISSUE.
AND REMOVE ALRIGHT SO NOW ROLL
CALL IN ISSUE THREE. BETTER
SKINNER.
I SENATOR ANDERSON.
SENATE ABOUT.
GREAT.
NOW ISSUE FOR.
I'M I THINK WE'RE BECAUSE.
SENDIRIAN XIN LIKE TO DISCUSS
IT I THINK WE HAVE A MEMBER AND
OF THE JUDICIAL BRANCH IS GOING
TO MISTER A FEW DRAWBACK.
GREAT ONE JOIN THE TABLE AND.
SENATOR ANDERSON IF YOU'D LIKE
TO OPEN IT VERSUS THE STAFFER IN
TERMS OF WHAT YOUR QUESTIONS MAY
BE AND THEN YOU CAN ADDRESS
THEM.
ARE.
Y. I DON'T HAVE SO MUCH A
QUESTION IS IS
STATEMENT OF WIRED CAN'T
SUPPORTERS. IN THERE IS OUR AYE
DID SUPPORTED INITIALLY.
OUR BUDGET HAS INCREASED SIXTY
FIVE PERCENT SEVEN YEARS I THINK
THE COURT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.
BY I ALSO THINK THAT THIS IS
POTENTIALLY A BARRIER TO JUSTICE
FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT FLUENT.
AND I DON'T WANNA SUPPORT THINGS
SPREAD KEEP PEOPLE FROM GETTING
CHESTER.
SO FOR THAT REASON I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THAT TODAY.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED
TO STEP UP WITH OUR FUNDING SO I
THINK THERE ARE OTHER AND BETTER
WAYS TO FUND.
SO THAT'S.
SIMPLY WANTS TO MOVE AN ARM.
I'M GOOD TO VOTE NOW.
SURE.
YES CERTAINLY SENATOR BELLS JUST
FOR THE RECORD DAHLE.
I KNOW MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE AND
OTHERS HAVE ALWAYS SAID THE
BUDGET IS GOING UP.
BUT IT'S GOING UP FROM A TROUGH.
OKAY SO IN TWO THOUSAND SIX WHEN
I STARTED INNOCENTLY LOSE.
BUDGET WAS LIKE.
GENERAL FUND BUDGET WAS LIKE TWO
HUNDRED YOU WHERE YOU WERE THERE
BECAUSE YOU CAME WITH ME.
THEY ARE TWO THOUSAND SIX.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUNDRED
AND TWENTY.
BILLION DOLLARS OR SO THE STATE
BUDGET.
THEN WENT DOWN TO LIKE EIGHTY
FIVE BILLION.
AND NOW IT'S UP TO ABOUT A
HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN
BILLION.
SO WE'RE JUST GETTING OUT OF THE
TROUGH NOW.
THAT WE'VE BEEN AND FOR THE
LAST.
DECADE.
SO.
I THINK WE HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK
AT IT THAT WAY BECAUSE THAT'S
THE REALITY.
AND I MOVED.
AND YOU MAY NOT NEED TO RESPOND
SINCE I THINK SO.
I THINK WILL.
BUT ON THAT MOTION.
AND THIS IS THE MOTION ON.
.
CORD FEE SUNSET EXTENSION
TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE ROLL CALL.
CENTERS SKINNER AYE SENATOR
ANDERSON.
THE REBEL.
ALRIGHT SO. THE OTHER TWO ITEMS
ON THE JUDICIAL BRANCH THAT ARE
VOTE ONLY OUR ITEM FIVE AND SIX.
AND THOSE ARE ON THE LEASE
REVENUE BUDGET BILL LANGUAGE AND
THE AMENDMENT TO RIVERSIDE
COUNTY'S NEW MID COUNTY CIVIL
COURTHOUSE.
AND.
.
ALL TAKE A MOTION ON THOSE.
GREAT.
BROKAW KNOWS BETTER SKINNER AYE
CENTER ANDERSON.
THE REBEL.
GREAT AND THEN FOR DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF VOTE
ONLY ITEMS.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TAKE A
MOTION ON ISSUE SEVEN EIGHT.
WOULD LIKE.
GREAT ALRIGHT SO WE WILL NOW WE
WILL MOVE ISSUE SEVEN EIGHT TEN
WHICH IS THE REGISTRY OF
CHARITABLE TRUSTS.
DELINQUENCY COMPLIANCE THE
BUREAU OF CHILDREN'S JUSTICE.
AND THE NONPROFIT HEALTH
FACILITY SALE OF ASSETS.
A BAD IMMUNE COMPLAINTS A BABY
SIX FIFTY ONE.
AND WE WON'T.
NOW AND I.
DO A ROLL CALL ON THAT MOTION
THOSE THREE ITEMS THAT ARE
SKINNER AYE CENTER ANDERSON.
CENTER BELL.
RIGHT SO WE WILL NOW DO YOU A.
MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER NINE WHICH
IS FOR.
TO IMPLEMENT SB FIFTY FOUR.
OKAY I THOUGHT MAYBE ELEVEN WAS
GOING TO BE ESTA DISCUSSION BUT
IF NOT THEN I WILL JUST HAVE
THOSE TO US THAT MOTION.
OKAY RIGHT SO NOW IT'S THE INPUT
IT'S ISSUE NINE THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF S. B. FIFTY
FOUR. AND ISSUE ELEVEN.
THE GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING
ORDERS.
RESEARCH.
ALLOCATION WHICH IS FROM S. B.
FIVE THIRTY SIX.
AND ARE BILL WOULD YOU LIKE TO
MOVE THAT.
YOU YOU MOVED OWE YOU MOVED IT
AREA. TRUTH CAN OKAY. MORNING.
EXCELLENT ROLL CALL CENTERS
SKINNER AYE SENATOR ANDERSON.
SENATE BILL.
I WAS OF THROWN OFF BECAUSE I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE
A MOTION FOR A THING YOU'RE
GONNA BUT NO ONE BUT IT'S
PERFECTLY FINE JONES.
BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE.
SPEEDING AT SEA.
ALRIGHT SO WE HAVE NOW GOTTEN
THROUGH THE SECTIONS.
ZERO TWO FIFTY AND ZERO EIGHT
TWENTY. AND WE WILL NOW MOVE TO
OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS WHICH WE
WILL START WITH PART IN OF
JUSTICE. AND WE HAVE AN UPDATE
AS THE FIRST ITEM FROM OUR
ATTORNEY GENERAL HAVE YOUR
PICTURE.
ATTORNEY GENERAL WELCOME TO THE
TABLE.
HI.
EXISTE.
OKAY.
IT'S LA JOH WANTS TO COME TO
THE. DYESS.
BUT ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME
YOUNG PEOPLE WERE HERE TO
OBSERVE AND IF THERE WERE STAFF
THAT ONE INCIDENT THE TABLE
INSTEAD THEN THERE'D BE A FEW
MORE SEATS.
FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE SOFT BERMAN
FINANCE WHY I KNOW YOU WON'T BE
COMMENTING YET BUT IF YOU WANT
TO SPEAK AT THE DICE THAT BE
EASIER THAN THERE'S A FEW MORE
CHEERS.
FOR OUR VISITORS.
ONE APPEAR IN FRONT.
ONE OVER THERE NO ONE HERE.
PART.
GREAT.
RESEARCH YOU MAY BEGIN.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS SAID GOOD
MORNING.
THANK YOU FIRST OF ALL FOR THE
WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE. AND I'M
PLEASED TO BE HERE TODAY
WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO PERSONALLY
TESTIFY BEFORE YOU AND OTHER
COMMITTEES HERE IN THE
LEGISLATURE.
TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK OF THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE.
I JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR
RECENT WORK.
IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE
TESTING OF TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
AND EIGHTY EIGHT SEXUAL ASSAULT
KITS.
.
THIRTEEN FORTY THREE OF THOSE
KIDS WERE WHAT WE CALL GRADS
KIDS.
AND WE.
ARE PLEASED TO FOR ME TODAY THAT
WE ARE UP TO DATE WE HAVE NO
BACKLOG WHEN IT COMES TO TESTING
OF RAPE KITS.
WE SECURED A HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE
MILLION DOLLARS AGAINST OF ROYAL
BANK OF SCOTLAND FOR MISLEADING
OUR PUBLIC EMPLOYEES AND
TEACHERS RETIREMENT.
IT'S ON MORTGAGE BACKED
SECURITIES.
OUR COSTS IN THIS CASE THAT WERE
LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF WHAT WE
RECOVERED.
OUR I'LL PUT THAT RETURN ON
INVESTMENT AGAINST ANYONE.
AND IT'S OF COURSE ALL OF THE
EAGLE RETURN.
AND THE CITY WILL FORGET.
THE EXPERIENCE OF REPUTATION OF
THE PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE TO DO THIS WORK IS WHAT
COUNTS.
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BROTH.
WE SECURED GUILTY PLEAS FROM THE
C. E. O..
OF UP BACK PAGE DOT COM AND
WE'RE CONTINUING TO HOLD
ACCOUNTABLE.
THE OWNERS OF THAT WEBSITE.
FOR HUMANS AND SEX TRAFFICKING.
WE STOPPED ALL GIANT THOUGH
THEIR OWN FROM MAKING A ANTI
COMPETITIVE ACQUISITION THAT
COULD HAVE LED TO HIGHER GAS
PRICES FOR CALIFORNIANS KNOWN
ONCE AT.
OUR SPECIAL AGENTS AT THE BUREAU
FIREARMS CONTINUE TO DISARM
FELONS AND DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS
UNDER THE APPS PROGRAM.
IN ONE CASE THIS FEBRUARY OUR
AGENTS RECOVERED FROM AN
INDIVIDUAL WHO WE HAD RECORDS
HAD AT LEAST.
TWO TO FOUR REGISTRATIONS OF
WEAPONS WE RECOVER TWENTY EIGHT
FIREARMS FROM THAT INDIVIDUAL
INCLUDING ASSAULT STYLE WEAPONS.
GHOST GUNS WHICH ARE.
IN INDIVIDUAL FARMS THAT ARE
NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TRACE
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY ARE
SIMPLE.
AND ON TOP OF THAT SIXTY SIX
THOUSAND ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION
THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO LIVED
IN LOS ANGELES. AND WAS LEGALLY
BARRED FROM OWNING WEAPONS.
OUR APPS PROGRAM IS THE FIRST
AND ONLY ONE OF ITS KIND IN THE
NATION.
WITH JUST TWO TEAMS AND LITTLE
MORE THAN THREE YEARS IN
OPERATION OUR TAX RECOVERING
CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT OR TRACE
TASK FORCE HAS HELPED RECOVER
MORE THAN FOURTEEN HAVE TO
MILLION DOLLARS. IN LOST TAX
REVENUE TO THE PEOPLE THE GREAT
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND THERE'S
MORE ON THE WAY.
WE'VE GONE AFTER CHARITIES THAT
FALSELY CLAIM TO HELP. ANY
NUMBER OF CALIFORNIANS.
BUT PARTICULARLY VETERANS.
A THERE WAS ONE PARTICULAR
CHAIRED THAT I MENTIONED WITH
WOUNDED WARRIOR SUPPORT GROUP.
USED ITS DONATIONS DOT TO HELP
OUR VETERANS NOT TO HELP WOUNDED
WARRIORS. BUT FOR PERSONAL USE.
OUR BUREAU OF GAMBLING CONTROL.
OUR AGENTS THERE. HAVE ASSISTED
INITIALLY CITATIONS TO TWO
OPERATORS JUST RECENTLY. OF
ILLEGAL GAMBLING OPERATION. AND
WE HAVE SEIZE THE NUMBER OF
ILLEGAL GAMING DEVICES.
THIS AND ALL THE OTHER EFFORTS
THAT WE'VE UNDERTAKENAT THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN ó THE
LAST YEAR OR SO WOULD BE A
COMMENDABLE EFFORT UNDER ANY
CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO
REMEMBER WE ARE LIVING IN
EXTRAORDINARY TIMES.
SINCE JULY OF TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
WE HAVE SPEND SUBSTANTIAL TIME
DEFENDING THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA.
AGAINST
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S
OVERREACH.
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE.
HAS A LONG LIST OF VICTORIES IN
THIS AREA MADE POSSIBLE BY YOUR
HELP.
AND I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT
THAT PARTICULAR WORK.
MOVING FORWARD IT IS IMPERATIVE
THAT WE MAINTAIN THE CRIME
FIGHTING EXCELLENCE OF OUR
BUREAU OF FORENSIC SERVICES.
THE FINGERPRINTING DNA TESTING
AND CRIME SOLVING TECHNIQUES
A BFS IS.
ARE PEOPLE.
MAKE IT. A GREAT TV SERIES IF
THERE WERE A TV SERIES ON THE
BUREAU FRIENDS EX.
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT BE IS
WORKING ITS ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
ARE NOT.
HI
MITCHELL FOR TV THEY ARE REAL.
THE BUREAU WAS SUPPORTED BY THE
DNA ID FUND.
WHICH AS YOU KNOW IS
EXPERIENCING A SUBSTANTIAL
DECLINE IN REVENUE.
BUT REVENUE GAP FOR BFS NOW
STANDS.
AT MORE THAN TWENTY MILLION
DOLLARS ON TOP OF THAT.
THE BUREAU HAS BEEN FORCED TO
POSTPONE OR FOR THOUGH
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF NECESSARY
EQUIPMENT UPGRADES AND
MAINTENANCE.
IF THE BUREAU WERE FORCED TO
RATCHET DOWN ITS SERVICES.
YOUR CITIES HERE COUNTIES AND
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN
THOSE COUNTIES AND CITIES WILL
BE FORCED TO GO TO MORE
EXPENSIVE PRIVATE LABS.
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ITS
BUREAU CHARGES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
ZERO DOLLARS FOR NEARLY NEARLY
ALL THEIR FORENSIC SERVICES.
IN CONTRAST PRIVATE OR
CONTRACTED ENTITIES CHARGE
pHUNDRED TO THREE HUNDRED
DOLLARS
ON AVERAGE.
FOR ALCOHOLIC IN CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCES ANALYSIS.
AT APPROXIMATELY TWO THOUSAND
DOLLARS PER DIEM A CASE TEST.
IF WE WANT THE BUREAU TO
CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS A
RELIABLE GO TO CRIME SOLVER.
THAT THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES OF CALIFORNIA DEPEND ON
TO PROSECUTE CRIMINALS.
WE NEED GET SERIOUS AND CLOSE
THE REVENUE GAP.
AND WE NEED TO POSSESS TWENTY
FIRST CENTURY FRIENDS EX TOOLS
TO COMBAT TWENTY FIRST CENTURY
CRIMES.
ANOTHER AREA DIVISION OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
WEIRD TO THINK OF THE FIGHT
AGAINST WHITE COLLAR CRIME.
CYBER CRIME AND HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
BUT MODERN TECHNOLOGY HAS MADE
IT EASIER FOR CRIMINALS TO
COMMIT THESE OFFENSES.
THE THREAT CAN'T BE OVERSTATED.
THE LATEST FBI DATA SHOW THE
CALIFORNIA RANKED HIGHEST IN THE
NATION.
FOR BOTH NUMBER OF CYBER CRIME
VICTIMS AND ECONOMIC LOSS.
WHICH TOTALED APPROXIMATE TWO
HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS.
OUR PEOPLE. ARE CYBERCRIMINALS
FAVORITE TARGETS.
SO WE NEED TO KEEP PACE.
AND I'D SAY WE NEED TO OUTPACE
TODAY'S MORNING CRIMINALS.
WE NEED YOUR HELP TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE MAKE THE RIGHT
INVESTMENTS IN THIS AREA.
ADDITIONALLY A CALIFORNIA
JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEM
DIVISION COURSE.
AS IT'S KNOWN CONFERENCE SEVERAL
HUNDRED THOUSAND PROBES AND
CYBER ATTACKS ON OUR DATABASE.
EVERY DAY.
LET ME REPEAT THAT HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF PROBES AND CYBER
ATTACKS ON OUR DATABASES. EVERY
DAY.
OUR DATABASES HOUSE HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF CALIFORNIA'S MOST
PERSONAL RECORDS.
WITH THE COST OF A BREACH OF AND
ESTIMATED TO BE BETWEEN A
HUNDRED FIFTY TO TWO HUNDRED
FIFTY DOLLARS. PER RECORD.
COST OF A CYBER ATTACK TO OUR
PEOPLE AND OUR STATE WOULD BE
ASTRONOMICAL.
WE MUST CONSTANTLY INVEST IN
KEEPING SITUS IS DATABASE OUT OF
THE WRONG HANDS.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR
LEADERSHIP AND HELP TO KEEP
MILLIONS OF CALIFORNIA'S DATA
SECURE.
FINALLY WE HAVE SOME MAJOR
RESPONSIBILITIES TO CARRY OUT
THE LAWS THAT THE LEGISLATURE
RECENTLY HAS PASSED.
BUT WE NEED THE RESOURCES TO DO
IT.
I GIVE YOU SOME OF THOSE
RESPONSIBILITIES SPECIFICALLY.
S. B. THREE EIGHTY FOUR WHICH
WAS SIGNED INTO. LAW LAST YEAR
ESTABLISHED A TIER BASED SEX
OFFENDER REGISTRATION SO.
WITHOUT THE RESOURCES IT BECOMES
VERY DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE WE CAN
DO THIS RIGHT. AND NO ONE WANTS
TO GET IT WRONG ONE FROM WE
CLASSIFY PEOPLE WHO ARE SEX
OFFENDERS.
WE NEED TO ENFORCE A BEFORE
FIFTY THE IMMIGRANT WORKER
PROTECTION ACT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES WI
DOT YOUR RESEARCH HAS YET TO DO
THAT.
WE NEED TO ENFORCE SB THREE
NINETY THREE. WHICH TO BE OVER A
BILL RELATED TO SEALING CRIMINAL
RECORDS.
AGAIN.
RESOURCES BUS FOLLOW FOR US TO
BE A TO DO THE JOB RIGHT.
AND BEFORE IT CLOSED IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE. THAT WE ARE
DOING MUCH OF ALL OF THIS WORK
THAT I'VE EXPLAINED TO YOU.
WITHOUT COMPETITIVE SALARIES FOR
OUR PEOPLE.
DOES SPECIAL AGENT SAID I'VE
TALKED BOUT FOLKS IN OUR
DIVISION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WELL THEY ARE PAID APPROXIMATELY
EIGHTY FOUR PERCENT OF WHAT
CALIFORNIA'S LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE PAID
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
WE KNOW OF FORMER DOJ CRIMINAL.
CRIMINALISTS AND PARALEGALS. WHO
HAVE MOVED ON TO SIMILAR
POSITIONS THAT THEY HAD WITH US
AT DOJ?
AND NOW THEY'RE WORKING FOR
OTHER LOCAL AGENCIES ARE PRIVATE
FIRMS
AND THEY HAVE DOUBLED THEIR
SALARIES.
OUR HIGHEST PAID SENIOR
ATTORNEYS.
BURN WHAT.
A FIRST YEAR LAWYER STRAIGHT OUT
OF A LAW SCHOOL COULD MAKE IN
THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
IT'S A TESTAMENT TO OUR TEAM'S
COMMITMENT TO THEIR WORK AND THE
PEOPLE OF OUR GREAT STATE OF
CALIFORNIA.
THAT WE HAVE BUILT THE BEST
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
IN THE LAND.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK
THIS COMMITTEE TO TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT THE BUDGET CHALLENGES WE
ARE FACING AS WELL AS THE
RESOURCES WE NEED.
PROTECT ALL CALIFORNIANS.
THERE IS KNOW MISSION MORE
IMPORTANT FOR US THE TO PROTECT
ALL CALIFORNIANS AND THE
PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE TOGETHER.
I AM OPTIMISTIC THAT AGAIN
TOGETHER WE CAN FIND A WAY TO
MEET THESE CHALLENGES THAT ARE
AHEAD AND REMAIN THE STATE THAT
LEADS THE NATION.
MADAM CHAIR AND SENATORS THANK
YOU FOR THIS CHANCE TO TESTIFY
BEFORE YOU. ON THE GOOD WORK OF
THE WOMEN AND MEN OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN
CALIFORNIA. MY STAFF AND I ARE
PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
YOU MIGHT HAVE.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS BUT I'M
HAPPY TO ALLOW WITH MY
COLLEAGUES TO.
PRECEDED.
YEAH.
ARCADE WILLIAM WEEK. WE'LL
OBVIOUS AGAIN IT'S THE UPS
PORTION LATER SO.
AND GO AHEAD SENATOR ALONE THEN
ALL LAST MONTH I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU'RE GOING TO STAY FOR THE
WHOLE.
.
THE SIX ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
OF.
IF IF YOU ARLES O. S. THAT PRIME
TIME BUT IF YOU'RE. PLAYING TO
LEAVE WE GOT OTHER THINGS TO DO
ALL ASK THE QUESTIONS NOW.
ARRIVED ON THE TABLE HERE. SO
HAVE A FLIGHT ACROSS THE IS LONG
AS I CAN OKAY.
.
WELL.
.
THERE'S BEEN. A LOT OF.
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RAPE KIT
TESTING.
SO.
AND YOU SAID THAT THE
DEPARTMENT HEAD CLEARED ALL THE
RAPE KIT TEST.
BUT THEN OTHER RATE KIDS AREN'T.
TESTED OR THOSE.
GREAT KISS ON HER.
THE JURISDICTION OF OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES CAN YOU.
AT AND WHAT DO YOU THINK WE CAN
DO TO CLEAR.
OF OF.
THE PROBLEM IT'S ON THE AGENDA
ITEM SEVENTEEN BUT. I LIKE TO
HEAR YOUR.
VIEWS ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT
THAT.
AND.
.
BELOW THOSE RECUSE CAN LEAD TO
CORES CRIMINALS BEING CAUGHT AND
SO FORTH SO.
WE'RE VERY CONCERNED.
.
THAT THEIR PEOPLE OUT THERE
THAT.
CAN BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THOSE
RATE KIDS TESTED SO.
IN YOU BABY COMMENT ABOUT THAT
AND GIVE A SORT OF.
.
CHARLIE CAN CENTER DOES YOUR
BILL.
AND I HAVE VERY MILLER WHO'S
HERE WITH ME AS WELL COULD GIVE
YOU MORE DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE ON
OF THE WORK THAT WE DO WITH
THESE RAPE KITS.
VARIOUS JURISDICTIONS
PERFORM THE ANALYSIS.
AND THE TESTING OF THESE RAPE
KIT.
THOSE THAT COME TO US.
PERFORM THE TESTS ON THOSE AND
WE HAVE NO BACKLOG.
IT'S VERY.
TRY TO
MAKE SURE THAT DOUBT WHEN WE
HAVE A RATE KEEP BEFORE US WE DO
WITH IT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE WORK
THAT WE DO. BETTER AS YOU AS YOU
SAID THERE ARE OTHER AGENCIES
THAT HANDLE THE TESTING IN
PREPARATION OF THOSE KITS
THEMSELVES.
OKAY OR THEY OVERWHELMED WITH
WORK IS.
IS THERE WAY THE.
SINCE YOU HAVE CLEARED ALL YOUR
CASES IS A WAY YOU CAN.
MAYBE POSSIBLY STEPPED FORWARD
TO HELP THEM.
.
YOU KNOW AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
COMMUNITY HEALTH EACH OTHER THE.
CLEAR THE RATE KIDS AS FAST AS
POSSIBLE SO WE CAN.
CATCH CRIMINALS THAT.
.
BREAKING IN VIOLENT ATTACKS ON
PEOPLE IN HIGH. I THINK THE
NUMBER OF.
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
LEADERS ARE.
WILLIE TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN DO
THIS BEST
THERE ARE SOME JURISDICTIONS
WIDE EYED ON CERTAIN WOULD TELL
YOU THAT THEY'RE STRAPPED ON
THEIR RESOURCES.
AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
ISSUES THAT ARE INVOLVED
BECAUSE.
NOT EVERY KID WILL RESULT IN A
PROSECUTION.
BUT THE I THINK MOST.
EVERYONE WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT
WOULD TELL YOU THAT THERE IS
THERE SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.
THE TESTING THESE KIDS AND WE
WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO BE
PART OF ANY SOLUTION THAT HELPS
MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IN
CALIFORNIA KNOWS THAT THERE ARE
THESE KIDS WHEN THEY EXIST.
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY GO TO THE
POSSIBLE TESTED SO COULD YOU
LEADER EFFORT TO.
AS OUR. CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICER IN CALIFORNIA.
TO.
GET THE COLLABORATION.
.
GO IN SO WE CAN CLEAR THESE RATE
CAPS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
BUT BE MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK
ON THAT TO WHETHER.
WE WE GET FOLKS TO FOLLOW.
OR BE PART OF THAT EFFORT IS IS
ANOTHER MATTER BUT I'D BE MORE
THAN.
SENATE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.
ENGAGING THAT CONVERSATION.
I'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO SEE
IF WE CAN TRY TO GET THE VARIOUS
JURISDICTIONS TO TO TALK ABOUT
HOW WE CAN DO THIS IN A MORE
EFFICIENT WAY. THAT WE PUT THE
ITEM ON THE AGENDA UNDER ITEM
SEVENTEEN.
ARE IN ORDER TO CONSIDER A A A
BUDGET TO.
.
APPROPRIATIONS ALLOCATION.
IN OUR STATE BUDGET AND.
.
I MEAN YOU KNOW WE WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT ALLOCATE MONEY BUT
WE NEED SOMEBODY TO KIND OF
FIGURE OUT.
YOU KNOW HOW WE CAN FAST TRACK
IN.
GET THINGS GO ON AND COORDINATE
ALL.
MAYBE.
OBVIOUSLY THERE MIGHT BE SOME
AGENCIES THAT ARE OVERWHELMED
AND HAVE TOO MANY.
.
UNTESTED.
RATE KIDS ARE WAITING TESTING
AND. HOW WE CAN?
USE EACH OTHER'S SKILLS TO.
QUICKLY.
.
GET RID OF THE BACKLOG. ALREADY.
A IF UP IF YOU LIKE TO HELP US
TRY TO BRING TOGETHER THOSE.
DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS HAVE
WERE READY TO TALK TO THEM AND
SEE HOW WE CAN BEST DO THIS.
YEAH WE WILL DO THAT AND WE WILL
DO THAT AND IT'S GOTTA BE IT'S
GOTTA HAPPEN IS SO.
THE TOP PRIORITY SO WE CAN GET
THIS.
.
THIS ISSUE RESOLVED AND CATCH
CRIMINALS SO HURRY.
WE CALL BE TREATED AS A TOP
PRIORITY AND NOW I'M GLAD TO
HEAR YOU SAY THAT YOU.
THANK YOU SENATOR OF BILL I'M
GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
LINE THE DISCUSSION.
SO I DON'T REFER TO THESE
DISKETTES.
I THINK IT'S VERY INTERESTING
THAT WE WOULD REFER TO THE.
EVIDENCE FROM A RAPE AS A KIT
WHEN I THINK OF THE WORD KIT. A
SEWING KIDS MAKEUP KIT SOBRE SO
ANYWAY SO IT IS.
THAT'S THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE
FROM BREAKS.
AND.
I I FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT
YOU REFERENCE.
THAT.
THE YOUR INCREDIBLE WHICH I
AGREE IS A VERY GREAT DEPARTMENT
WITHIN YOUR DIVISION WITHIN YOUR
AND AGENCY YOUR FRIEND SICK.
A.
EVIDENCE GROUP LAB.
AND YOU REFERENCE THAT.
THIS WORK IS DONE IN LARGE PART
AT NO COST
TO THE AGENCIES BUT IN FACT.
THE LOCAL AGENCIES THAT SUBMIT
THE EVIDENCE FOR ME RATE.
TO DOJ ARE CHARGED.
FOR THE EXTRACTION OF THAT DNA.
SO THERE'S AN INCIDENT WHERE A
CROCK FRANTIC WORK BY YOUR
AGENCY DONE.
FOR THIS CRIME IS CHARGED
TO THE LOCAL AGENCY.
SO COULD YOU DESCRIBE Y. THERE
IS A FEE FOR THAT WORK AND NOT
FOR THE OTHER WORK. THAT YOU'RE
DOING.
CENTER IN AYE N. AND.
ALL MAKE SURE THAT.
THE THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE CAN
GIVE YOU THE SPECIFIC ANSWER BUT
I WOULD LIKELY TELL YOU THAT.
WHETHER IT'S FINGERPRINTING.
OR DNA TESTING MANY OF THESE
ARE.
ACTIVITIES THAT WE'VE ENGAGED
IN FOR QUITE SOME TIME IT.
IT DIE THINK INVOLVED INTO A
SITUATION WHERE FOR THE.
COUNTIES IN JURISDICTIONS THAT
DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO.
INCORPORATE THEIR OWN
DEPARTMENTS
TO DO THE FORENSICS WORK WE
BECAME THE GO TO.
AGENCY.
AND I SUSPECT IT WAS A DECISION
MADE QUITE SOMETIME AGO TO NOT
CHARGE.
FOR THAT WORK A.
THE.
ACTIVITIES SURROUNDING.
EXAMINING.
RAPE EVIDENCE OR EVIDENCE OF A.
A TAP A SEXUAL ASSAULT COM.
HIS MORE RECENT.
AND AS A RESULT I I THINK WILL.
DEPARTMENT PROBABLY DID AND I'M
SPEAKING NOW I KNOW HOW THAT MR
MILLER TRY TO RESPOND BUT MY
SUSPICION IS THAT.
BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN ON SO MANY
THINGS AND AS I JUST MENTIONED
THE BUREAU OF FORENSIC SERVICES
IS ALREADY.
UNDER WATER WHEN IT COMES TO ITS
FUNDING I SUSPECT WE SAID IF WE
WILL BE WANT TO TAKE ON NEW
ASSIGNMENTS WE'RE GONNA NEED TO
RESOURCE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. BUT
PATHETIC THAT'S ALL I SUPPOSE.
ONE COULD CONSIDER MY COMMENTS
THEM WHAT RHETORICAL BUT I AM. I
THINK THAT IS WORTH IT FOR US TO
LOOK AT.
WHAT FORENSIC EVIDENCE WE CHARGE
AGENCIES?
OR IN WHAT WE DON'T AND I WOULD
SAY THAT I THINK IT IS WORTH IT
FOR US TO RE LOOK AT THE SEXUAL
ASSAULT BECAUSE IF THAT IS
SUPERIOR. IF THE CHARGING TO THE
AGENCIES IS A BARRIER TO THEIR
SUBMITTING THE EVIDENCE FOR US
TO GET THAT DNA INTO THE
DATABASE.
THEN WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT.
HOW TO REMEDY THAT?
AND.
.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT FOR FAR TOO
LONG FOR MEAN WE KNOW THAT WE
HAVE.
BEFORE US
CULTURALLY A VERY.
IMPORTANT AND SIGNIFICANT
DISCUSSION AROUND HOW FURIOUS
AND ALL WE USE THE WORD
UNCONSCIOUS NOW BIASES.
FACTOR INTO OUR DIFFERENT.
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND JUDICIAL
WORK.
AND THAT THERE ARE.
GROUPS OF.
OUR COMMUNITIES WHETHER
GEOGRAPHIC OR NOT BUT MEANING
AND OTHER WORDS THERE ARE
SEGMENTS SEGMENTS OF OUR.
POPULATION THAT FEEL THAT THESE
TYPES OF.
ANYWAY UNCONSCIOUS SPICES.
REALLY IMPACT THEM SO EITHER
THEIR CRIMES ARE NOT.
A.
OR NOT PURSUED IS AS LEGITIMATE
LEAVE OR EVEN CHARGED THERE'S
NOT CHARGES OR THEY ARE
THEMSELVES.
OF MORE OFTEN EITHER STOPPED
ARRESTED PROSECUTED OR
IMPRISONED SO NOW WE'RE TALKING
OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. BUT
THEN IN THIS COURT IN THE TERMS
OF SEXUAL ASSAULT
WHILE IT CAN HAPPEN TO MEN. IT
IS PREDOMINATELY AGAINST WOMEN.
MANY WOMEN FEEL THAT IT'S NOT
TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY BY OUR.
LINE FORSMAN IN OUR JUDICIAL
SYSTEM AND SO THINGS LIKE.
AND WHEN WE WANT TO LOOK THEN AT
HOW THESE IN WE IT MAY NOT HAVE.
EVOLVED AT ALL DUE TO AN
UNCONSCIOUS BIAS BUT WHEN WE
LOOK AT WHAT EVIDENCE WE CHARGE
A LOCAL AGENCY FOR AND WHAT WE
DON'T.
AND WE SEE THAT THAT MIGHT
IMPACT
A CERTAIN SET OF CRIMES MORE.
THAN ANOTHER AND I THINK WE HAVE
TO. TO BE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE
EYES WIDE OPEN A REAL LOOK AT
THOSE THINGS.
I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. AND I
WILL TELL YOU THAT SINCE I'VE
BEEN IN THE POSITION IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR.
LITTLE OVER THE LAST YEAR. I
WILL TELL YOU THAT.
WE HAVE MAKE SURE IT'S PRIORITY
TO GET THROUGH.
THE TESTING OF ALL THE. EVIDENCE
OF ANY SEXUAL ASSAULT AND
CERTAINLY WILL DO WHATEVER WE
CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE
CASE FOR EVERYONE I WAS THE NEXT
THING I WAS GONNA RACE AND THAT
IS.
.
I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR THOSE.
THAT ARE FOLLOWING THIS ISSUE
FOR WHEN YOU DESCRIBED THAT THE
BACKLOG THAT THERE ISN'T ONE.
THAT.
PUT THE QUALIFIER I KNOW YOU ARE
SPEAKING ABOUT AN UPDATE OF YOUR
AGENCY.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
MAKE THE QUALIFIERS THAT.
YOUR REFERENCE WAS TO THOSE.
SEXUAL ASSAULT EVIDENCE
MATERIALS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
THE DOJ FOR DOJ TO TEST HER AND
NOT FOR ALL OF THE EVIDENCE
AROUND SEXUAL ASSAULT. THAT MAY
EXIST IN.
MANY OTHER DIFFERENT LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES UP AND DOWN
THE STATE THAT'S CORRECT. SO
THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS
WHETHER WE HAVE.
BECAUSE THE.
VARIOUS.
LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS THE.
.
LEGISLATURE IS TAKEN TO ADDRESS
THIS ISSUE SO FAR HAVE NOT
MANDATED. THAT THE EVIDENCE BE
TESTED BECAUSE WHEN THE STATE IN
ACTS IN MANDATE THEN WE MUST
ASSUME ALL THE COST.
SO SO FAR DOES NOT REACH THAT
THERES INSTEAD BEEN LEGISLATION
TO SUGGEST TIMELINES. AND TO
ALSO SUGGEST THAT. THERE BE A.
.
IT'S NOT AN AUDIT AT LEAST A
DOCUMENTATION.
OF WHAT EVIDENCE IS OUT THERE.
THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN SUBMITTED.
TO BE TESTED TO GET THE DNA
EXTRACTION SO DO YOU HAVE ANY
DATA ON THAT YET.
I CAN DATA SPECIFICALLY ON ONE
THE ENTIRE ON.
DIFFERENT SICK EVIDENCE FOR
SEXUAL ASSAULTS THAT MAY EIST
IN CALIFORNIA THAT HAS NOT YET
BEEN SUBMITTED.
NOT YET HAD ITS DNA EXTRACTED
LET ME ASK MR MILLER FEE HELPS
NO THE ANSWER I DON'T KNOW THE
ANSWER TO THAT I KNOW WE HAVE
INFORMATION ON THE.
EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN
SUBMITTED TO US
FOR EXAMINATION I DON'T KNOW IF
WE KEEP RECORDS OF ALL THE
DIFFERENT.
TESTS THAT HAVE BEEN.
ADMINISTERED AND ARE AWAITING
NOW SYSTEMS IF MR MILLER HAS A
RESPONSE.
A.
THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
PROPERTY ROOMS HAVE NOT BEEN
INVENTORIED TO THE LEVEL THAT
YOU'RE ASKING AND THAT IS
SOMETHING GOING INTO PHYSICALLY
COUNTING EVERY BOX THAT'S ON A
SHELF.
AND THE DEPARTMENT JUSTICE IS
IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL PROGRAM
IN ORDER TO TRY AND.
REMEDY SOME OF THAT ONE OF
WHICH IS BECAUSE.
ATTORNEY JOBS ARE REFERRED TO
ARE RAPIDLY IN A SERVICE WHICH
IS WHERE.
SEXUAL ASSAULT EVIDENCE COMES
TO A STRAIGHT FROM THE.
EXAMINATION THAT THE NURSES
TAKEN AND IT DOESN'T PASS
THROUGH THE HANDS OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT. AND SO WE HAVE A
GOOD COUNT
ON THOSE COUNTIES THAT WE SERVE.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE
IMPLEMENTED THROUGH THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS WAS.
THE SAFETY TO SEXUAL ASSAULT
FRANCE GIVEN US TRACKING
DATABASE AND THAT IS LIVE AS OF
JANUARY FIRST OF THIS YEAR AND
SO WE HOPE THAT AFTER A YEAR WE
WON'T HAVE THAT SITUATION WHERE
SOME OF THESE CASES SITTING ON
THE SHELVES.
YOU KNOW ARE BEING TRACKED
BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE MANDATED
TO BE ENTERED INTO THAT RIGHT
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THAT'S WHY
I ASKED THE QUESTION BUT I.
WASN'T SURE I THINK THAT THAT
UMPS.
A BILL WAS PASSED WHEN I WAS NOT
IN THE LEGISLATURE SO THAT'S WHY
WAS LESS FAMILIAR WITH ITS
SPECIFICS AND I DIDN'T WANT TO
SITE THAT YOU HAD THAT
RESPONSIBILITY ARE REDEEMED
BICU IN AIR SO. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO TRYING TO GET.
THAT DATA SO THAT WE CAN.
GET OUT RESOLVING THIS AND
MAKING SURE THAT THE.
THAT ALL THE SEXUAL ASSAULT
FORENSIC EVIDENCE IS HAS THE DNA
EXTRACTED GETS INTO THE DNA
DATABASE.
ALRIGHT SO I'M WILL HAVE MORE
DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT LATER BUT
I'M GONNA HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER
EAR ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO CHECK
IN WITH YOU ABOUT.
I'M.
A LAST YEAR.
DECEPTIVE MIDI RECOMMENDED TO
THE FULL BUDGET COMMITTEE WHICH
WAS THEN ADOPTED.
A TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE THAT
PROVIDED.
DOJ OVERSIGHT
FOR THE.
THOSE FACILITIES IN CALIFORNIA
THAT OUR DIFFERENT LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES MAY OPERATE
UNDER CONTRACT FOR.
FOR OUR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT
SERVICES.
AND WE ALSO PROVIDED FUNDING TO
YOUR OFFICE FOR THAT OVERSIGHT.
CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON
THAT ACTIVITY.
AND I'M JOINED BY ANGELES HERE
FROM OUR.
WHATEVER LEGAL DIVISION'S AND
FIGURE WILL BE HERE AS WELL TO
OFFER ANY OF FURTHER DETAILED
INSIGHT IF YOU'D LIKE.
LET ME I.
AND I NEED TO BE CAREFUL HOW
MUCH I SAY BECAUSE THE SUBJECT
LEGISLATION YOU'VE MENTIONED OR
THE MEASURE THAT WAS PASSED THE
LEGISLATURE.
IS ONE OF THE.
SUBJECTS OF THE.
LAWSUIT FILED BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AGAINST STATE ARE YOU
REFERENCING.
THE ACTUAL TRAILER BILL
LANGUAGE YEAH I GUESS OKAY SO
I'M NOT REFERRING TO SEE SP
FIFTY FOUR NOW OR ANY OF THE
OTHER AND REFEREE JUST IN THE
TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE E.
INSPECTION OF DETENTION
FACILITIES AS ONE OF THE.
A BASIS FOR A CAUSE OF ACTION
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
FILED AGAINST THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA SO I CAN SPEAK TO YOU
ON THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE
THAT OUR PUBLIC.
AND CERTAINLY I WILL TRY TO
ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU
HAVE TO THE DEGREE I CAN. BUT I
JUST WANT TO CAUTION THAT.
WE ARE NOW IN THE MIDST OF
LITIGATION WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT ON THE PROGRAM.
WHICH WE BELIEVE IS FULLY LEGAL
AND WE HAVE BEGUN.
ADMINISTERING THOUGH.
OBLIGATIONS THAT THE LEGISLATURE
YOU ARE AWARE OF SOME OF THE
ACTIVITY BECAUSE ONE OF THE
FACILITIES IS LOCATED. IN YOUR A
SENATORIAL DISTRICT WHERE THERE
ABOUT.
AND WHAT WE.
INITIATED WAS A PROCESS TO TRY
TO THEN INSPECT AS REQUIRED BY
THE.
THE MEASURE.
THE VARIOUS DETENTION
FACILITIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA PUBLICLY
OPERATED OR OPERATED BY PUBLIC.
HANDS.
AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO.
BEGIN THAT PROCESS.
WE ARE PREPARED TO GIVE A
FULLER BRIEFING TO THE
LEGISLATURE AS REQUIRED AGAIN
UNDERSTANDING THE CONSTRAINTS WE
WILL WE MIGHT HAVE AS A RESULT
OF THE. LITIGATION FILED BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
BUT WE BELIEVE THAT.
WE WERE UNDERTAKING AND HAVE
BEEN UNDERTAKING THE WORK THAT
WILL ALLOW WAS TO REPORT TO YOU
BY THE DATE THAT WAS REQUIRED
BY.
THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU PASSED IN
THE MADE INTO LAW.
SO I I BRING IT UP BECAUSE.
.
I KNEW THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT FILED SUIT I DIDN'T
KNOW IF THAT IF THE HOW MUCH OF
THE LANGUAGE IN THE TRAILER BILL
MIGHT HAVE BEEN SUBJECT ALSO.
BUT INDEPENDENT OF OUR.
.
OF OF THE SPECIFIC RESPONSE WE
GIVEN THE TRAILER BILL WHICH NOW
IS BEING LITIGATED.
ALREADY THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR
OVERSIGHT FOR ANY OF OUR
DETENTION FACILITIES RIGHT
INDEPENDENT OF IT BEING SUBJECT
TO. AN ICE IMMIGRATION RIGHT ARE
YOU BUT NO I MEAN IN OTHER WORDS
IF THERE WERE. IF THERE IS.
.
I MEAN CLEARLY IF THERE IS AN
INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED SAY IN A
COUNTY JAIL.
YOU WOULD EXPECT A D. A TWO.
IT IF IT WERE APPROPRIATE TO
BRING A CHARGE RELATED TO A DA
TO BRING A CHARGE.
BUT.
THERE IT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE SOME
ROLE THE DOJ CAN HAVE IN THAT
ACTIVITY AND I BRING IT UP
BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE.
WHILE WE MAY.
BE INHIBITED SOME WHAT
Q. HAVE OUR OVERSIGHT.
FOR. I MEAN WILL SEE HAVE TO SEE
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS.
LAWSUIT
WE MAY BE SOMEWHAT INHIBITED.
BUT WE KNOW FOR EXAMPLE ALL USE
A DIRECT IT OF MAKE IT MORE
DIRECT.
IN MY DISTRICT THE WEST CONTRA
COSTA COUNTY.
A DETENTION FACILITY.
THE NAME RIGHT BY THINK I GOT
THE NAME RIGHT ANYWAY.
HAS BOTH A REGULAR COUNTY JAIL
FACILITY.
AS WELL AS.
A PORTION OF THE FACILITY THAT'S
UNDER CONTRACT TO ICE.
NOW.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING I DO NOT
KNOW THIS FOR ABSOLUTE SURE BUT
THAT THE STAFF THAT THE
SHERIFF'S USE.
ARDEN OUR MAY BECAUSE THEIR
CUSTODIAL STAFF THEY MAY BE USED
IN BOTH FACILITIES.
AND WE HAD AN INCIDENT MOVE. WE
FIRST
THIS COMMITTEE PROVIDED THE
AUTHORITY BECAUSE THERE WERE
SOME COMPLAINTS
AROUND.
THE.
ISSUES AT THE ICE FACILITY.
NOW.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THOSE WERE
WE'D.
ALL WE KNOW IS COMPLAINTS.
SO WE CAN'T SAY WHETHER THEY'RE
ACCURATE OR NOT.
BUT THEN SUBSEQUENTLY IN THE
COUNTY JAIL PORTION OF THE SAME
FACILITY. WE HAD AN OFFICER
CUSTODIAL OFFICER.
BY IS NOW BEEN ACCUSED OF RAPE.
PORT TO OF THE COUNTY INMATES
WOMEN.
NOW.
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WOULD
BE WORTHWHILE TO KNOW. WHETHER
THAT OFFICER ALSO.
DID ANY CUSTODIAL WORK IN ICE
FACILITY BECAUSE EVEN IF WE DID
NOT EVEN IF WERE.
LIMITED IN TERMS OF OUR ABILITY
TO DO OVERSIGHT TO THAT.
WE COULD CERTAINLY INVESTIGATE
THAT OFFICER GIVEN THESE NEW
CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE.
WHILE I CANNOT SAY THIS WITH A
HUNDRED PERCENT AUTHORITY.
IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE LIKELY IF
THERE WERE WOMEN.
INDEED HELD IN THE ICE FACILITY
THAT IF THEY EXPERIENCED.
SUCH AND SUCH A THING BY
CUSTODIAL OFFICER LIKE THAT THAT
THEY WOULD BE HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
TO BE REPORTING A COMPLAIN ABOUT
IT.
BECAUSE OF THE FEAR OF
DEPORTATION.
AND SO IT'S WHICH IS OF COURSE
WHY WE WANTED THE OVERSIGHT
BECAUSE WE KNOW IN THAT
CIRCUMSTANCE THOSE THE FOLKS
THAT ARE IN OUR FACILITIES
THERE.
HAVE LESS CONTACT WITH FAMILY.
HELP MORE THERE'S MORE FEAR IN
RELATIONSHIP TO THEIR. AT WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF
THEIR CUSTODY. AND SO THERE'S
LESS LIKELIHOOD FOR THEM TO
REPORT. SITUATION SAID THEY
MIGHT EXPERIENCE.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
AND CHAIR RIGHT THAT WE CAN TELL
YOU WITH CONFIDENCE THAT WE ARE
DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
ON SPECIFIC CASES AND IN THE IN
A GENERAL MANNER ELECTED TO RIP
TRY TO RESPOND MORE SPECIFIC
TO WHAT YOU'VE RAISED.
BOB WE DO HAVE INDEPENDENT
AUTHORITY.
TO CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS OF
INCIDENTS WHERE.
THE RIGHTS OF A CALIFORNIA
MIGHT HAVE BEEN A VIOLATED.
BUT TYPICALLY WAIT INVOLVES A
CRIMINAL ACT.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
WOULD BE THE FIRST TO TAKE ON
THE INVESTIGATIVE WORK INVOLVED.
AND WE HAVE FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE FIFTY
EIGHT DIFFERENT DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS.
A.
THE CONCERN YOU RAISE ABOUT THE
POSSIBILITY THAT THERE MIGHT BE
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS VIOLATING
INDIVIDUALS RIGHTS. BOTH IN THE.
CRIMINAL NON IMMIGRATION SETTING
AND ALSO UNIVERSALLY TO HELP
ALSO DETAIN PEOPLE FOR
IMMIGRATION STATUS ISSUES. ARE
THEN IN IT AND HIT IT THAT
INDIVIDUALS ROLE AS A CUSTODIAN
IN THE IMMIGRATION DETENTION
SIDE. A I CAN UNDERSTAND THE
CONCERN OF I DON'T KNOW AND I'LL
LEAVE THIS TO AMISS HERE TO
ANSWER IF WE CAN GO TO MY MUCH
DETAIL ABOUT INDIVIDUAL
CUSTODIAL OFFICERS. BUT I WILL
CERTAINLY TELL YOU THAT JOB AS
PART OF OUR ROLE TEND TO CONDUCT
INSPECTIONS AS A RESULT OF THE
OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY YOU GAVE US.
UP WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE LOOKING
AT THE ROLE THAT ANY CUSTODIAL
OFFICER MAY HAVE PLAYED. IN THE
POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS OF ANY
INDIVIDUALS RIGHTS BUT LET ME
SEE IF I MISSED HEREBY BUT I
JUST WANT TO ADD THAT IT SEEMS
TO ME AND AGAIN.
I DON'T OVERSTEP HERE BUT THAT
IT WOULD WE MIGHT HAVE EVEN THE
ABILITY AND THE AUTHORITY TO
ASK.
WEATHER'S A RECORD OF THE
INDIVIDUAL WHO IS NOW CHARGED
WITH RAPE.
UP WHETHER THAT PERSON ALSO HAD
CUSTODIAL DUTIES IN DE ICED
PORTION OF THAT FACILITY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A NATURAL
OF BIT OF INFORMATION THAT WE
WOULD COLLECT. IN THE IN THE
PROCESS OF SIMPLY.
INSPECTING THE DETENTION
FACILITY ITSELF BECAUSE WE WOULD
HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO COLLECT
INFORMATION ON WHO THE CUSTODIAL
PERSONNEL ARE.
AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WOULD
BE A PRETTY EASY A MATCH TO FIND
OUT IF THAT AT ANY OF THE
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE. PROVIDING
CUSTODIAL SERVICES.
HAPPEN TO BE THE NAMES OF ANY OF
THE INDIVIDUALS WHO MIGHT HAVE A
ENGAGE IN ACTIVITY THAT'S NOW.
POSSIBLY BEING INVESTIGATED FOR
CRIMINAL CONDUCT.
OF.
IF YOU LIKE I COULD HAVE MISSED
SIERRA RESPOND IF YOU IF THERE'S
ANY PARTICULAR DETAIL YOU'D
LIKE.
THANK YOU AND I WOULD JUST ADD
TO THAT THAT YOU KNOW BEYOND THE
TRAILER BILL.
CERTAINLY I.
ALL HAS VERY BROAD AUTHORITY
UNDER THE HELPING
TO SHUN UNDER VARIOUS.
PROVISIONS OUT GOVERNMENT.
OR LAW. A FOR PIES ARE OUR
OFFICE TO.
LOOK AND CONDUCT CIVIL
INQUIRIES AND INVESTIGATIONS
INTO WHETHER IT BE OF A LAW
ENFORCEMENT. SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S OPERATING A DETENTION
FACILITY OR A BUSINESS OPERATING
IN CALIFORNIA A DETENTION
FACILITY SO WE DO SEE.
THAT AUTHORITY THAT DOES GO
BEYOND
THE TRAILER BILL THE TRAILER
BILL WAS EXCUSE.
QUITE HELPFUL IF PARTICULARLY
PROVIDING FUNDING FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE A TARGET FOCUS ON
THIS ISSUE. BUT NEVER BE OUR
POSITION THAT WE HAVE AUTHORITY
OUTSIDE OF THAT AS WELL.
GREAT AND THEN I HAVE ONE OTHER
AREA I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT IN
TERMS THE UPDATE ON THIS YES THE
CLEARLY AS I HAD SENATOR OF.
THE DETENTION FACILITIES OR
OTHER. FACILITIES OPERATED BY
IMMIGRATION.
.
OR OPERATED BY CONTRACTORS.
FOR IMMIGRATION TO THEY HAVE TO
HAVE LIKE GO.
HER MAD SO.
IN TERMS OF HEALTH AND SAFETY.
DEALING WITH CHILDREN.
.
FOOD SAFETY ENVIRONMENTAL
SAFETY.
MEDICAL CARE.
WE YOU KNOW THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS LIKE WE DO WITH OUR.
YOU KNOW STATE.
STATE CALIFORNIA FACILITIES THAT
WE HAVE FOR YOU SO.
THE PROOF IS IN THE THIRTY FIVE
PRISONS WE HAVE OU KNOW WE HAVE
ALL THESE. RULES THAT WE HAVE TO
FOLLOW IN THEIR STATE LAWS AND.
FEDERAL LAWS THAT THEY HAVE TO.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT INSPECTS.
AND GIVES PERMITS TO THOSE.
.
FEDERAL FACILITIES TO MAKE SURE
THERE ARE.
SENATOR OF. THAT'S A THAT'S A
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWER.
IF YOU WANT TO OPERATE THE CITY
CALIFORNIA YOU HAVE TO OPERATE
UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA THE BECAUSE YOU
CONTRACT WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. DOESN'T OF ABSOLVE
YOU OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO
FOLLOW CALIFORNIA LAW WHEN IT
COMES TO THE OPERATIONS OF YOUR
ENTERPRISE. AND SO.
.
THESE DIFFERENT FACILITIES WOULD
STILL HAVE TO MEET CALIFORNIA
REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE
TO OPEN THEIR DOOR.
DO THEY DO THEY.
.
DO THEY HAVE THE DEPARTMENTS
INSPECTING THEM.
THE DEPARTMENT VARIOUS
DEPARTMENTS REQUIRED PERMITS
FOR.
HEALTH AND SAFETY ENVIRONMENTAL
PERMITS ALL THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS THAT. COULD BE OF ANY
WERE PRIVATE BUSINESS YOU'D HAVE
TO DO IN CALIFORNIA IT SOON
THEY'D HAVE TO DO IT LIKE OF
THEIR PRIVATE BUSINESS.
AND I HAVE TO WE HAVE TO DO
THOSE THINGS THAT INFORMATION WE
HAVE OR CAN DISCLOSE.
SOME OF THE INFORMATION.
THIS I THINK WILL BE.
RIGHT.
TO.
SO YOU KNOW THERE OF THE
I.
A VARIETY OF THE FARM OVERSIGHT.
GENERALLY.
ONE YOU KNOW IS THERE IS SOME
FEDERAL OVERSIGHT HAS
STAND IT AND THEN YOU KNOW
THEY'RE GOING TO BE A VARIETY OF
ISSUES THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING.
TO THE STATE'S ROLE AS WELL WITH
RESPECT TO THE OTHER REASON
AMBASSADORS THIS COMMITTEE HOUSE
TO OUR HOME.
COAL PER OR HOW HE SAID.
.
DEAL WITH THE FEDERAL RECEIVER.
THAT HAS BEEN IMPOSED ON US ON
THE FEDERAL COURTS.
WROTE TO THE THIRTY FIVE
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES THE
STATE CALIFORNIA OPERATES.
THEY COME AND THEY TELL US TO
THE WE HAVE TO OPERATE THIS WAY
THE CRUEL UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT. WE
HAVE TO PUT MEDICAL CARE MENTAL
HEALTH CARE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN
NUMBER OF PRISONERS WHO CAN'T BE
OVERCROWDED.
ALL THOSE KINDS OF.
KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO
DO LOWER WE'VE BEEN TO WE'VE
BEEN UNDER RECORD RECEIVER FOR.
WHAT FIFTEEN HERE RIGHT OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WE'RE
HOPEFULLY GOING TO GET OUT OF
THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMITTEE
IS WORKING VERY HARD TO?
WITH THE RECEIVER TO GET OUT
FROM UNDER THAT.
AND WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF
MONEY WERE UP TO NINETY THOUSAND
DOLLARS PER.
STATE WILL END MADE WILL BE NEXT
YEAR NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER
INMATE PER YEAR.
I MEAN THAT'S YOU KNOW.
WHEN I GOT ON THE.
WHEN I GOT HERE ELEVEN YEARS AGO
WAS LIKE TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND.
BETTER I THINK.
THOUGH. IT'S KIND OF LIKE.
IF IF IF I CAN DISTINGUISH A BIT
FROM THE SITUATION WITH OUR
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES FROM
WHAT WE'RE FACING WITH THESE
DETENTION FACILITIES NOW OF. THE
REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE A BY
THE THE FEDERAL MASTER IN IN
THAT THE CASE YOU PREFERENCE
OR BASED ON.
CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS.
AND SO WHAT THE FEDERAL MASTER.
N THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHICH
LAWSUIT HAS DONE IN IMPOSING
CERTAIN CONDITIONS IS TO SAY
THAT BECAUSE OF THE.
CONSTITUTION'S REQUIREMENT THAT
THE STATE MUST.
PROVIDE CERTAIN OF CONDITIONS
AND ELEMENTS OF THE DETENTION OF
THE. CORRECTIONAL FACILITY
DETENTION.
AS OPPOSED TO THE SITUATION
WHERE AN WITH A PRIVATE
CONTRACTOR WORKING WITH ICE
TO DETAIN PEOPLE TO A CONTRACT.
WHERE THE QUESTION IS?
USES THAT PRIVATE CONTRACTOR
HAVE TO ABIDE BY STATE LAW IN
OPENING ITS DOORS. AND YES BUT
IN MOST CASES THEY ARE PRIVATE
CONTRACTORS THERE ARE COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND
CERTAINLY WITH IT WHEN IT'S A
PUBLIC FACILITY IT TO HAS AN
OBLIGATION TO OF THE TO RESPECT
ALL OF OUR STATE LAWS A PRIVATE
FACILITY. I THINK IT.
MAY NOT HAVE TO BUT IT STILL HAS
TO ABIDE BY ANY STANDARDS THAT
ARE IN PLACE LOCAL LEADERS ARE
BY THE STATE.
TO BE ABLE TO OPEN ITS DOORS AS
AN ENTERPRISE.
WHETHER IT'S GOING TO CONTRACT
WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOT
SO THE DIFFERENCE IF I CAN
INSERTED DISTINGUISHES AT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS MADE.
HAS IMPOSED CERTAIN THINGS ON US
BECAUSE. OF WHAT THE COURTS
FOUND HIS CONSTITUTIONAL
VIOLATIONS IN OUR PRISONS.
WE BELIEVE THAT EVERYTHING
WE'RE DOING IS FULLY COMPLIANT
BUT NOT TO STATE LAW BUT WITH
FEDERAL AND THE US CONSTITUTION
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD
INSPECT THESE DIFFERENT
DETENTION IMMIGRATION CIVIL
IMMIGRATION DETENTION
FACILITIES.
WELL.
I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
.
I WOULD SAY HOWEVER I WOULD SEE
THAT ANYBODY IN THOSE
FACILITIES.
BECAUSE THERE AND.
OUR COUNTRY.
UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION.
HAVE TO BE.
UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION ALSO.
AND THEREFORE.
I LOOK AT IT IT HAS.
SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES.
DETECTION OF THE CONSTITUTION
FOR THEM.
THE SAME WAY.
AS THE PROTECTION THE
CONSTITUTION AND THE. FOR THE
INDIVIDUALS AND.
.
FACILITIES WE OPERATE.
SO I LOOK GOOD.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEIR.
THE FACILITIES THAT ARE RUN.
LIKE WITH THAT CHILD IS THERE A
SCHOOL WHERE I MEAN. THINGS LIKE
THAT I MEAN BASIC KIND OF.
THOSE KINDS OF BASIC.
PROTECTIONS THAT. WE SEE IN OUR
VALUE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE HERE
HAVE SO THE I DON'T KNOW IF
THOSE FACILITIES ARE EXPECTED
FOR THAT.
WILL YOU YOU GAVE US THE
AUTHORITY TO LOOK INTO THOSE
THINGS AS WELL.
WELL I I I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT
THAT'S.
THAT'S A PRIMARY DUTY AND AS A
PRIMARY DO NOT OF YOUR
DEPARTMENT BUT ALL THE STATE
DEPARTMENT'S.
TO VIGOROUSLY INSPECTORS
FACILITIES.
ARM.
TO HAVE INSPECTIONS TO PROTECT
THE RIGHTS OF THESE PEOPLE.
THAT ARE IN THESE FACILITIES IS
IT'S IT'S SO. THE RIGHT.
THEIR RIGHTS UNDER OUR LAWS TO
HAVE THOSE INSPECTIONS.
THANK YOU SENATOR ROLES SO MY
LOOK AT LAST IN EUROPE STATUS.
YOU REFERENCED.
.
A REVENUE GAP.
WHICH I THINK WAS IN
RELATIONSHIP TO THE FORENSIC
DIVISION.
AND SO I WANT YOU TO TALK A
LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE WHEN YOU
SEE REVENUE GAP.
IS THIS AN INCREASE IN.
.
IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A WORKLOAD
INCREASE FOR WHICH WE'VE NOT YET
FUNDED VERSUS A REVENUE GAP BUT
I KNOW THAT MAY BE WHAT YOU
MEANT.
BUT THEN I WONDERED WHAT IS.
THE WHY WHAT IS RELATED TO THAT
WORK LOAD INCREASED BECAUSE NOW
YOU KNOW CARE WERE BIG STATE.
AND CERTAINLY WE'VE PUT IN.
.
YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE WE EXPECT
AND EXPECTED FOR THE.
EVIDENCE FROM SEXUAL SAW CRIMES
TO BE
PROMPTLY PROCESSED IN SACKS.
BUT CRIME OVERALL IN THIS IS ONE
OF THESE THINGS MANY.
OF CALIFORNIANS
HERE OTHERWISE BY THE MEDIA THE
CRIMES DOWNEY CALIFORNIA AND
VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN. AND SO IN
THAT RESPECT
THE WORKLOAD MAYBE WOULDN'T BE
UP SO I'D LIKE JUSTICE TO
DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT SINCE
YOU MENTIONED IT IN YOUR UPDATE.
BUT I'M GLAD YOU DON'T PAY
ATTENTION TO THOSE TWO WEEKS
THAT ARE COMING OUT ON A DAILY
BASIS.
.
WITH REGARD TO CALIFORNIA.
YES AND I THINK IT'S ALWAYS
IMPORTANT FOR THOSE OF US WHO
REALLY LOOK AT THE DATA TO
REMIND FOLKS THAT NO VIOLENT
CRIME IS DOWN IN CALIFORNIA.
SO THE SITUATION FOR US WITH OUR
FORENSICS SERVICES BUREAU IS
THAT.
THE FUND THAT.
PROVIDES US WITH THE RESOURCES
TO DO OUR WORK.
IS DIMINISHING ITS CAPACITY.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE WHO THERE ARE
FEWER INSTANCES WHERE THERE IS A
FEE CHARGED.
FOUR THE THE DNA.
.
TESTING THAT IS BEING DONE OF
THE INDIVIDUALS AND SO THE
CAPACITY THE FUND IS SHRINKING.
BUT THE CAPACITY SHRINKING
THERE'S LESS MONEY THAN.
TO SPREAD TO THE.
OPERATIONS THAT RELY ON IT. AND
SO WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE
INCREASING IN SERVICES.
OUR CAPACITY TO PROVIDE THE
SERVICES THAT WE HAD THE YEAR
BEFORE PREVIOUS YEARS IS ALSO
DIMINISHING BECAUSE WE'RE HERE
GETTING LESS MONEY.
THE GAP IS NOW GROWN TO OVER
TWENTY MILLION THAT'S US MONEY
DUE TO SOME PENALTIES OR FINES
OR IS THAT LESS MONEY BECAUSE AS
A GAVE THE EXAMPLE BEFORE AND
I'M NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING
THAT WE BEGIN TO CHARGE LOCAL
AGENCIES FOR EACH AND EVERYONE
OF THESE TESTING. BUT WE DO YOU
CHARGE THEM FOR THE SEXUAL
ASSAULT.
SO. IS IT THAT WERE NOT CHARGING
THEM FOR OTHER OR IS IT THAT. WE
HAVE OF US.
FINES OR FEE PENALTY TYPE FUND
THAT WE USUALLY USE FOR THIS
PURPOSE LET ME ASK CHRIS RYAN
WHO'S AHEAD OF OUR OPERATIONS
AND AND KNOWS THE BUDGET.
VERY WELL FOR DEPARTMENT
JUSTICE EXPLAINED GIVE YOU THE
DETAILS.
MANAGER CHRIS RYAN DEPARTMENT
JUSTICE.
AND THAT IT'S RELATED TO THE
FINES AND PENALTIES THAT YOU
JUST DESCRIBED THOUGH THERE'S
THE.
LARGER ISSUE THAT WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS
STATE PENALTY FUN.
DECREASING AND THE REVENUE THAT
GOES TO THIS FUND HAS ALSO BEEN
DECREASING ON A SIMILAR TREND
LINE.
SO AS THOSE TRANSACTIONS RELATED
TO WHO WOULD PAY THESE TYPES OF
PENALTIES HAS DECREASED.
THAT GAP HAS OPENED UP. BIRDS
ARE APPRECIATE THAT SO M. THIRD
THOSE YOU MAY HAVE A MANY PEOPLE
IN THE AUDIENCE MAY BE KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
BUT ALL. PUT IN MORE AND MORE
WHO RELATE PEOPLE'S TERMS. THAT
THE STATE WISELY HAS BEEN
REDUCING SOME OF THE FINES AND
PENALTIES BECAUSE.
AS HAPPENS OFTEN GOOD BEGAN WITH
THE.
POTENTIALLY UNCONSCIOUS BIAS OR
JUST.
MOVED BY CAN TALK LONG ABOUT
WIDE THAT.
IS LOW INCOME CAN PEOPLE THAT
TEND TO BE THOSE WHO. END UP AT
THE A. SEEING THE FINES OR
PENALTIES INCREASE MOST.
EITHER DUE TO THEIR INABILITY
PAY WON ITS FIRST LEVERAGED ON
THEM OR DO YOU TO THERE BEING.
EITHER FOR A SHORT PERIOD I HELD
IN A COUNTY FACILITY OR FOR A
LONGER PERIOD HELD IN A STATE
PRISON IN WHEN THEY GET OUT.
AND INFRACTION THAT THEY HAD
PRIOR IS ALL THE SAID NOW YOU
KNOW QUADRUPLED IN SIZE.
AND SO THE STATE HAS REDUCED
THOSE REALIZING THAT IT WAS A
SERIOUS BURDEN. THAT WAS
INTERFERING WITH A PERSON'S
ABILITY TO EITHER.
FULLY REENTER IN OUR
COMMUNITIES OR SUPPORT THEIR
FAMILIES OR A VARIETY OF OTHER
THINGS SO WE'VE BEEN REDUCING
THAT WHICH THEN IS AFFECTING
THIS FUND. WHICH IS AFFECTING
YOUR ABILITY TO DO THE FORENSIC
EVIDENCE.
SO.
SO I GET IT SO IT'S THAT THING
OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
OF USING. A FEE THAT IS.
THAT YOU THEN TRY TO CORRECT
FOR THE REGRESSIVE NESTS AND
THEN YOU HAVE OTHER CONSEQUENCES
TO TE REDUCTION OF THE FE SO WE
WILL BE DISCUSSING IT FURTHER IN
OUR AGENDA. THANK YOU.
OTHER UPDATES GO AHEAD SENATOR
ANDERSON. WELL. WHEN I LEARNED.
HE MAY HAVE TO CATCH A FLIGHT I
DON'T WANT BEYOND RHETORIC THAT
NO PLEASE GO RIGHT AHEAD DO ON
BE ON RECORD SAYING THAT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FOCUS
IN THE RAPE KITS
I I THIS IS BEEN A HIGH PRIORITY
FOR US.
AND THE FACT THAT YOU'VE SHOWN
THAT.
THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO CLEAR
THAT BACKLOG.
IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND I JUST
WANT TO. PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR
THAT MAKE YOU.
AND DOES.
I THINK OR LINE OF QUESTIONING
FOR YOU.
ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR SARAH'S.
COMPLETED AND APPRECIATE THE
UPDATE I ALSO WANTED TO EXPRESS
MY THANKS FOR.
THE A DIFFERENT. COURT
INTERVENTIONS THAT YOUR OFFICES
MADE IN TERMS OF PROTECTING
CALIFORNIA ON A NUMBER OF OUR.
ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACTIONS
AND OUR LAWS THAT ARE AT RISK DO
YOU TO FEDERAL ACTION BUT
ADDITIONALLY EVEN.
EVEN THOSE ACTIONS.
WHICH.
WE DID NOT PUT A PARTICULAR LAW
INTO PLACE BUT BY VIRTUE OF THE
FEDERAL ACTION TO REMOVE OTHER
REGULATIONS RELIES.
JEOPARDIZE
QUALITY OF CALIFORNIA'S AIR.
WATER.
I.
OR INCREASE OUR TALK SIX
CONTAMINATION OR OTHERS WHICH IS
UNFORTUNATELY HAPPENING DOING TO
OVERWRITE DIE DUE TO A VARIETY
OF ACTION
S. TAKEN BY. EITHER FEDERAL
AGENCIES UNDER THE NEW
ADMINISTRATION OR THE WHITE
HOUSE ITSELF
SO I WANT TO EXPRESS MY
APPRECIATION FOR YOUR VERY AT
AGGRESSIVELY IN ASSERTIVELY.
PROTECTING CALIFORNIANS IN
TAKING COURT ACTION ON THOSE
THANK YOU. CENTER ABOUT.
.
YOU CAN'T COMMENT ON WHAT I'M
GOING TO SAY SO.
BUT.
.
SOONER SKINNER AYE OR.
INTRODUCING LEGISLATION.
AND.
.
TO PUT.
IF THERE'S ANY BUDGET SURPLUS TO
PUT TWO BILLION OF AND A HOUSING
AND ONE OF THE MOTIVATIONS.
IS JUST A JUST SO YOU KNOW IS
THAT.
LAWSUIT ON THE NO PLACE LIKE
HOME WE HAD THE PROGRAM FOR THE
HOMELESS OF MENTALLY ILL. WITH.
THE PROPOSITIONS
STEVE THREE.
.
MIL HEALTH SERVICES ACT FUNDS
SO.
WHICH I'M ON THE BOARD OF
DIRECTORS OF GUM ON THE ON THE
SENATE APPOINTEE FOR THAT.
MENTAL HEALTH AND.
.
YOU NO WE HAVE IT THAT THAT WAS
ALLOCATED AND.
APRIL OF TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN
AND.
WE PROVED THAT AND.
THE LAWSUIT I KNOW IS A IS
EXTREMELY DIFFICULT LAWSUIT A.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE
IN NEED OUT THERE JUST NEEDS
SAID.
DESPERATELY NEED THAT.
MONEY SO WE CAN START PUTTING
THOSE PEOPLE IN THE HOMES AND
HOUSING AND.
THEY ARE ON THE STREETS KNOWN.
YOU KNOW IT'S SO.
SOMETHING I PRAY ABOUT AYE.
CARE ABOUT.
AND WHAT YOU KNOW IT'S JUST.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
SENATOR IN A PREVIOUS LIFE.
I REPRESENTED.
IN CONGRESS SAYS SKID ROW IN LOS
ANGELES US THERE'S NO LARGER
POPULATION OF HOMELESS.
INCLUDING FAMILIES AND VETERANS
THEN.
ON SKID ROW IS IN LOS ANGELES
AND I COULD AGREE WITH YOU MORE
THAT WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE
CAN TO TRY TO.
SOLVE THIS AYE WE WE ARE GREAT
NAY I STATE NO SIX LARGEST
ECONOMY IN THE WORLD.
IT IT WILL BE HARD TO CONTINUE
THAT IF WE CAN'T FIND DECENT
HOUSING FOR ALL THE FOLKS IN THE
STATE ESPECIALLY FOLKS WHO WORK
HARD BEGAN SEEM TO MAKE ENDS
MEET.
S. SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR WHAT YOU
DO SOMETIMES I. I I THINK I HAVE
WITHDRAWALS FROM NOT GETTING SIT
ON THAT SIDE OF THE. OF THE
DAYS.
BUT.
.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
YOU AND TO THE DEGREE THAT MY
OFFICE CAN BE PART OF THE EFFORT
TO
DEAL WITH THE HOUSING. ISSUES
THAT WE FACE IN CALIFORNIA
PLEASE COUNT ON. EVERY WOMAN AND
MAN IN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
TO BE THERE TO HELP.
CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE ON
HOUSING TRANSPORTATION
APPRECIATE ON YOUR. OWN AS WE
KNOW OUR STATE PRISONS IN OUR
COUNTY JAILS ARE NOT GOOD
ALTERNATIVES FOR.
TO HOUSE THESE FOLKS WHICH
UNFORTUNATELY IS HAPPENING MORE
AND MORE.
AND.
WE KNOW THAT LARA.
THE INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS IS
OF COURSE DO A SHORTAGE OF
HOUSING BUT IT'S ALSO DUE TO
IT'S A LOT OF RE ENTRY FOLKS
FOLKS THAT REFORM INCARCERATED.
AND OF COURSE FOLKS WHO ARE
STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL ILLNESS
THAT'S.
AND FAMILIES WHO WERE EITHER
LOST THEIR HOMES DURING THE
RECESSION OR A VERY AFFECTED AS
A RESULT OF THAT WHO HAVE NEVER
REALLY BEEN ABLE TO.
TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET AND
SO.
AND OF COURSE WITH OUR COSTS OF
INCARCERATION GOING UP TO NINETY
THOUSAND A YEAR.
DID WE IT'S GOT TO BE.
MORE COST EFFECTIVE
TO SOLVE SOME OF VERY THE FOLKS
STREET OR IN THEIR CARS
WITH HOUSING AT A COST LESS THAN
NINETY THOUSAND A YEAR SO. WE
HAVE TO DO OUR BEST THINKING WE
HAD ONE LAST STATISTIC TO THAT.
CHAIN OF EVIDENCE TOM.
BUT THINK IT'S CRUCIAL.
WHAT WE SPEND FOR OUR USE TO BE
INCARCERATED? YES WHICH IS FAR
MORE THAN AN ADULT.
I WAS TOLD FOLKS HIGH THAT.
WHICH WHAT WE SPEND TO KEEP A
YOUNG PERSON.
WALKED UP FOR A YEAR.
YOU COULD SEND THAT SAME PERSON
TO UC BERKELEY FOR EIGHT YEARS.
RIGHT.
I SUPPOSE THAT WERE TAKEN OUT
OF.
SOME OF THE LEGISLATORS ON A
TOUR OF THE CALIFORNIA FACILITY
AND ON FRIDAY NEXT WEEK.
MANAGED CARE WE SENATOR ANDERSON
ISSUE THIRTEEN.
YES SO I WILL.
DO DO YOU WANT THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL HERE FOR THAT DISCUSSION
ON.
I THINK YOU'D BE REALLY
IMPORTANT RIGHT SO IF YOU DON'T
MIND IF WE COULD QUICKLY GO TO
THAT ONE. YOU KNOW IT'S NOT FOR
YOUR UPDATE SELF BUT THANK YOU
FOR THE UPDATE AND WE WILL NOW
GO TO ITEM.
ISSUE THIRTEEN THE.
APPS SYSTEM.
AND.
.
I'D I THINK THAT.
SO MISTER LINDLEY YOU CAN
PRESENT THE YEAH I THINK THAT.
YOU DON'T NEED TO GOING TO A
LOT OF DETAIL BECAUSE I THINK
THAT.
SENATOR ANDERSON'S.
HE MAY HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
SO YOU.
BE RELATIVELY BRIEF BANG HELL
ASK QUESTIONS WE CAN GET INTO IT
MORE VENTURE IF I COULD ASK OF.
THE SENATOR AND SENATOR ANDERSON
ONCE ASSN CPAS IF PARTICULAR
QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE DIRECTED
AT ME.
I CAN TRY TO ANSWER THOSE AND
THEN LEAVE MY TEAM IN PLACE IF
THEY WANT TO GET INTO MORE
SPECIFICS.
I JUST WANNA BE MINDFUL THAT AND
THAT WILL BE TRYING TO CATCH A
FLIGHT. AYE I WAS HOPING THAT
THAT'S WHAT WE COULD DO OKAY
AND.
HAD THE BIGGEST CONCERNS I HAVE
IS IS ABOUT THE WORKFORCE
BECAUSE WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS
ABOUT THAT THE PAST YES WHAT
THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO OKAY AND.
.
AND THEN.
A LOT OF THE OTHER NUMBERS I CAN
WORK THROUGH WITH A STAFF OKAY I
THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE.
BIG CHEESE.
YOU SHOULD BE HERE FOR THE
EMPLOYMENT ASPECT OF STOOD.
SO I IT IF I COULD JUST. ARE OUT
OF SAKE OF TIME IF WE COULD SKIP
OVER TO. ARE THE POSITIONS HAVE
OPENED.
WHY THEY'RE FILLED WITH THE
LEVEL THERE ARE? IN WHAT STATURE
TAKING TO GET THEM.
THAT WOULD BE VERY VERY HELPFUL
BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE
OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT.
SO WE TALK ABOUT THE WITH
ESPECIALLY TO MUSICIANS THAT ARE
VACANT EYES PARTLY OUT PROGRAM.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE FIVE
VACANT.
THE FIRST AGENT POSITIONS IN OUR
APPS PROGRAM WE ARE WORKING
DILIGENTLY IN ORDER TO FILL
THOSE POSITIONS. THERE ARE SOME
OBSTACLES WITH RECRUITING THE
NOT ONLY THE DEPARTMENT JUSTICE
AS BUT.
A LOT OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
AS WELL AS THE PGA SAID.
PREVIOUSLY I PAY ISSUES IS A.
THE PROBLEM FOR OUR RECRUITING.
AND THEN UNDER THE CURRENT
CONTRACT WHEN AGES ONE TO
TRANSFER OUT OF THE BUREAU.
THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT THAT
WAS AN ISSUE.
WITH THIS COMMITTEE GOING BACK
PARTY FOR FIVE YEARS
SO WE WORKED WITH THE UNION AND
THEY NOW WHEN A SPECIAL AGENT
COMES INTO THE BUREAU FIREARMS.
THE NEITHER IS STAY THERE FOR AT
LEAST TWO YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN
TRANSFER.
AND OVER THE YEARS WE'VE SEEN
LESS AND LESS AGENTS TRANSFER
OUT. PART OF THAT WAS ALSO WITH
THE ISSUES WITH.
BE LIMITED TERM POSITIONS THAT
WAS AGAIN SOLVE BY THIS.
BY THIS COMMITTEE.
LIMITER POSITIONS ARE VERY
DIFFICULT SPECIALLY IN THE
SPECIAL AGENT CLASSIFICATION TO
FILL. AND TO KEEP STILL WITH
THE.
EDITION OF THE TWENTY CHIU.
FULL TIME PERMANENT POSITIONS
THAT HELPED.
OUR ATTRITION RATE GREATLY.
WHEN WHEN WE HAVE THIS
DISCUSSION LAST TIME.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THE COST
OF TRAINING.
AND I BELIEVE THE TIME IS OVER
TWENTY THOUSAND.
.
WHAT'S THE COST OF TRAINING
TODAY.
IN BACKGROUND CHECKS JOB FOR A
NEW HIRE.
SO I WOULD SAY IT'S RELATIVELY
STABLE AT ABOUT TWENTY THOUSAND
DOLLARS WHO WE HAVE. THE THE
BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS IS
LENGTHY AND EXPENSIVE BUT ALSO
VITAL TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE
BEST PERSONNEL COME ABOARD THERE
IF THEY'RE FREE OF. OF ISSUES.
IN THEIR IN THEIR LIFE.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRAINING
THAT WE CAN DO IN HOUSE WE FOUND
WAYS AND LOCATIONS TO CUT COSTS
AS MUCH AS WE CAN REALIZING SOME
THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE
WITHIN THE STATE'S NAM. UMBRELLA
IT WITH THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY
PATROL THE HELLFIRE LOCATIONS TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REDUCING
OUR COSTS AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS A LOT OF
THE DEPARTMENTS FOR PLUCKING.
AGENTS ARE THE DEPARTMENT ONCE
THEY WERE TRAINED TO SO I THINK
THAT ARE YOU TESTIFIED THAT VOTE
IN ONE CASE THE PERSON HAS
SPENT.
FEWER THAN TWENTY FOUR HOURS IN
THE NEW POSITION BEFORE I TOOK A
POSITION.
IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
HAVE WE SOLVED THAT COMPLETELY
BECAUSE.
AT THE TIME I SUGGESTED THAT WE
CHARGE THE NEW DEPARTMENT THE
COST.
BECAUSE IT WE HAD GONE THROUGH I
THINK.
ALMOST SIXTY PERCENT OF THE
BUDGET THAT WAS PUT ASIDE.
AND WE ARE CLOSE TO
ACCOMPLISHING THE GOALS SO.
I AYE WE NO LONGER TRAINING
EVERYBODY FOR.
.
FOR ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR
WE RECOUPING THE MONEY OR WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITH THAT.
SO WITH THE AGREEMENT WITH THE
ON THE UNION THAT COVERS ARE
SPECIAL AGENTS.
THAT WAS LARGELY ON TAKE CARE
WITH A TWO YEAR REQUIREMENT.
TO WITH THE PERMIT POSITIONS
THAT WASN'T MADE AVAILABLE BY
THIS COMMITTEE WITH THE TWENTY
TWO PROPOSITIONS THAT ALSO
SOLVED ON THE PROBLEM AND JUST
DURING THE TIMEFROM THAT. WE
FIRST RECEIVE THE SB ONE FORTY
MONEY THAT APARTMENT WAS
RECOVERING FROM THE.
LAYOFFS THAT WERE IMPOSED
DURING THE.
ELEVEN TWELVE FISCAL YEAR. SO
THOSE KINDS OF LARGELY SUBSIDED
SINCE THEN HOWEVER RELATIVELY
STABLE WORKFORCE.
SO IN MY NOTES HERE SHOWS THAT
THERE'S A THIRTY TWO POSITIONS.
IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
FULL TIME IN THIS PART TIME
POSITIONS ARE TEMPORARY
POSITIONS.
I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER
POSITIONS ON WORLD POSITIONS
THAT WE ALREADY HAD AS PART OF
THE APPS.
PROGRAM PRIOR TO SB ONE FORTY
SO ALL THE POSITIONS AND THAT WE
CURRENTLY HAVE ASSIGNED TO THE
NUMBER OF A PERSON SYSTEM ARE
PERMANENT. PROPOSITIONS.
AND CARE.
AND THEN I NOTICED.
ACCORDING TO WHAT I HAVE HERE.
YOU HAVE THIRTY OF THE THIRTY
TWO POSITIONS FILLED HERE AT
NINETY FOUR PERCENT WHICH IS
TERRIFIC.
.
BUTTON SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN YOUR
YOU ONLY HAD FORTY SEVEN
FIFTEEN.
OF THOSE POSITIONS FILLED.
IT'S A GREAT STEP UP.
BUT THEN WE LOOK CARE ACT.
TO PRODUCTION.
OVER HOW WE'VE GONE AFTER THESE
GAPS IN THE BACKLOG WE'VE TAKEN
A BIG STEP BACKWARDS.
SO COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW
THAT OCCURRED. BECAUSE.
IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
WE'VE WE REDUCE THE BACKLOG BY
OVER TWO THOUSAND.
IN TWENTY EIGHTEEN WE REDUCE THE
BACKLOG BY FOUR HUNDRED.
IF WE WENT BACK TO TWO HUNDRED
TWENTY SXTEEN. BETWEEN FIFTEEN
WHEN.
YOU ONLY HAD TWELVE POSITIONS
APPROVED IN ONLY EIGHT PEOPLE.
FILLING THOSE POSITIONS.
.
YOU'RE DOING BETWEEN FOUR AND
FIVE THOUSAND.
IN THE REDUCTION SO WE'VE GONE
FROM FORTY FIVE THOUSAND WITH
HALF THE EMPLOYEES OR LESS THAN
HALF FEWER THAN HALF THE
EMPLOYEES.
THEN WERE WE ARE TODAY WE'RE
GOING CAN PRODUCE FOUR HUNDRED.
SO A NUMBER OF FACTORS ARE GONNA
SHORTEN CANNON LEE. TO THE THAT
THE STEPS THERE ONE WE USED A
LOT OF OVERTIME WHICH WAS
DISCUSSED AND I BELIEVE IN THE.
US SIXTEEN.
AND IN OUR BUDGET HEARING
SIXTEEN A LOT OF OVERTIME WAS
BITTEN BEING UTILIZED. EVER TO
THIS WAS KIND OF ALL HANDS ON
DECK PRIORITY.
FOR THE FOR RETURNING JOURNALS
OFFICE FOR THE ORIGINAL ON FOR
SPRINT AND FOR THE BUREAU
FIREARMS TO WORK AS MANY CASES
AS AS POSSIBLE DURING THAT TIME
FRAME.
NUMBER TWO IS DURING THAT TIME
FRAME WE ALSO WERE LOOKING AT
ABOUT THREE TO FOUR THOUSAND
PEOPLE A YEAR THERE ARE BEING
ADDED TO THE ARMY OF THE PERSON
SYSTEM.
OVERALL.
WE NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT
SEVEN THOUSAND PEOPLE A YEAR SO
WE HAD A GOOD RUN WHEN WE WERE
ABLE TO WORK DOWN THE BACKLOG
BUT BASED ON CURRENT STAFFING
LEVELS. THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S HARD TO IT'S HARD TO KEEP
THAT LEVEL AT THE TEN THOUSAND
OR SO. PEOPLE IN THE ACTIVE
PORTION OF THE APPS DATABASE
BECAUSE WERE SENIOR OF FOR MORE
PEOPLE BEEN ADDED TO THE SYSTEM.
PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE A LONGER
RETENTION THAT STARTED IN TWENTY
FOURTEEN AND A PART OF IT IS
JUST THE THE MASSIVE GUN SELLS A
WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST OF FOUR
TO FIVE YEARS.
WHEN I.
.
WHEN I LOOKED AT SIERRA.
INCOMING CASES THOUGH.
IN TWENTY TWELVE.
.
YOU HAD A TWO THOUSAND TWO
HUNDRED.
INCREASE.
THEN WHEN YOU GO TO TWENTY
THIRTEEN FOURTEEN SOMEONE IS
FORTY FIVE HUNDRED FORTY SIX ON.
AND THEN WE'VE HOVERED AROUND
FIVE THOUSAND.
FIVE HUNDRED AFTER THAT SO EVEN
IN THE PEAK HERE SINCE SIXTEEN
SEVENTEEN
WE HAD FEWER LABOR.
WE ARE STILL OP PRODUCING
CONSIDERABLY AND.
AND WHEN YOU WHEN YOU THINK IN
TERMS OF OVERTIME GOING FROM
EIGHT EMPLOYEES TO THIRTY
EMPLOYEES.
I MEAN A TIMES THREE IS TWENTY
FOUR SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE
WORKING MORE THAN TWENTY FOUR
HOURS A DAY TO OFFSET.
THE WORKLOAD WORKABILITY.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT ARE WE
DOING DIFFERENTLY NOW WHEN WE
STARTED THIS PROCESS BEFORE.
AND YOU WERE RELUCTANT TO SEND
OUT LETTERS.
AND WE HADN'T ISSUE IN THAT ARE
BROUGHT UP BACK THEN OF KNOCKING
ON A DOOR USING A LOT MAN HOURS
TO CHASE DOWN A SEVENTY YEAR
OLD.
WHEN IN NINETEEN SIXTY EIGHT
CAMARO ONE OUNCE MARIJUANA
CHARGE.
AND I QUESTION WHAT WE SEND THE
LETTER BECAUSE HE'S NO LONGER
REALLY A PROHIBITED PERSON ONCE
HE FILLS OUT THE PAPERWORK.
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NO
LONGER A FELONY I I DON'T THINK
IT'S A MISDEMEANOR.
SO.
YOU DID START THE LETTER
PROGRAM.
.
BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW I'M I'M IN I
KNOW THE MADE CHANGES ENOUGH
COMPLIMENTED YOU ON SOME OF
THOSE CHANGES IN THE PAST.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WERE FALLING
BACKWARDS AGAIN I'M TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HAVE.
MORE THAN THREE TIMES THE NUMBER
OF AGENTS ON THIS.
AND HAVE A REDUCTION WE DID ONE
POINT EIGHT PERCENT.
AS OPPOSED TO WE'VE EVER HAD
NUMBERS ARE THE SLOW BEFORE.
AND I GET THAT.
.
THAT IN TWENTY FOURTEEN I THINK
IT WAS THAT WE STARTED VIA LONG
GUNS INCLUDED IT. BUT EVEN IF
YOU INCLUDE ALL THOSE NUMBERS.
WHEN YOU COUNT THE NUMBER OF
BODIES IN THE NUMBER OF HOURS
APPLY TO THIS.
WE'VE NOT SEEN ANY PROGRESS NOT
ANY MEANINGFUL PROGRESS.
AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE RAPE
KITS IN WHICH I COMPLIMENTED.
ARE. YOU ON.
THIS SHOULD BE EQUALLY
A PRIORITY AS THE RAPE KITS.
THESE ARE THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
FOUND TO BE MENTALLY ILL.
THEY'RE FELONS THEY'RE
PROHIBITED THEIR DANGER TO
THEMSELVES OR DANGER TO OTHERS.
AND YET WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND AND THE
PROTECTION OF OUR CHILDREN.
I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S
ANY KIND OF INTENSITY OF
IMPORTANCE.
AND I'M WONDERING WITH THE
NUMBERS WHEN I GO THROUGH THEM I
CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY WE
PERFORMED SO POORLY.
SENATOR ANDERSON LET ME SEE IF I
CAN TRY TO GIVE YOU.
I ANSWER THAT.
BECAUSE FOR THE PERSPECTIVE OF
SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN IN THE OFFICE
NOW IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR
A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A YEAR.
AND WHO.
WANTED DIG INTO THIS BECAUSE I
AGREE WITH YOU THIS SHOULD BE
AND IS ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT
JUST PRIORITIES.
A AND AND THINK OF IT.
IT AS WAVES.
.
YOU GIVE US AN AUTHORITY TO
HIRE.
WE DON'T END UP GETTING A HIGHER
UNTIL FAR LATER THAN THE POINT
WHERE YOU GAVE US THE AUTHORITY
TO HIRE.
SO THERE ARE WAVES.
LONG GUNS WERE ADDED TO THE LIST
OF WEAPONS THAT WOULD BE NOW
SUBJECT TO.
VERIFICATION INSPECTION.
THE WAVE OCCURS WHEN YOU START
TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH ALL
THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE NOW STARTING
TO FILE. AND REPORT.
BEFORE WE START TO SEE THE
PEOPLE WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND
INVESTIGATE BECAUSE KIDNAPPER
HIBBETT FROM.
RETAINING THOSE WEAPONS
AND SO IT'S A BIT OF A WAVE. THE
MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED BACK IN
TWENTY THIRTEEN BY SB ONE FORTY.
THREE YEARS.
AS I THINK MISTER LINDE
INDICATED IT TOOK US AWHILE
BEFORE WE COULD HIRE AND IT WAS
TOUGH TO HIGHER BECAUSE IT WAS
TO BRING MONEY THERE ARE TOO
MANY. LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS WHO
ARE GONNA LEAVE A GOOD GOOD
PAYING JOBS AND SECURITY TO TAKE
A THREE YEAR ASSIGNMENT.
AND THE NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO
AFTER THAT SO WAVES OCCURRED
WE'VE LOST THE FUNDING THAT CAME
FROM SB ONE FORTY BECAUSE
THERE'S ONLY THREE YEARS IN
FACT.
OF THE.
TWENTY FOUR MILLION DOLLARS THAT
WE WERE SUPPOSED YET WE DID GET
TO USE A TWENTY FOUR MILLION WE
ONLY GOT EIGHTEEN MILLION OF IT.
BECAUSE OF THE ACCOUNT.
I DIDN'T HAVE THE A DOLLARS IN
IT TO GIVE US THE CHANCE TO GO
TOWARD THE TWENTY FOUR MILLION.
SO WE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO DO
EVERYTHING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO
BE DONE IN TWENTY THIRTEEN
THE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE.
CONTINUED TO CHANGE IT'S AN
EVOLVING WAVE OF ACTIVITY AND I
WILL TELL YOU THIS.
THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO
WANT TO TAKE AN ASSIGNMENT WELL
WHAT YOU'RE TOLD TO DO IS
ESSENTIALLY. GO SEE IF YOU CAN
RETRIEVE A GUN FROM SOMEONE
WHOSE A FELON OR IS DANGEROUS
YOU AND OTHERS. ARE AND THAT'S
THE SIMON YOU HAVE EVERY DAY.
WHAT THEY DO IN REMOVING WEAPONS
IS INCREDIBLE? PERHAPS THE BEST
TESTAMENT TO HOW WELL THEY DO
IT.
IS THE FACT IN ALL THE YEARS
THAT WE'VE HAD THE APPS PROGRAM
IN PLACE AND AGAIN WE'RE THE
ONLY STATE THAT DOES THIS.
WE'VE NEVER HAD ONE INCIDENT.
WHERE SOMEONE HAS GOTTEN HURT AS
A RESULT OF OUR EXPENSES SPECIAL
AGENTS GOING IN? TO REMOVE
WEAPONS FROM PEOPLE WHO'VE LOST
THE RIGHT TO POSSESS THE.
AND UP WE CAN GOING TO THE
NUMBERS WITH YOU AND I AYE WE'RE
FOR.
I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO HAVE
MY TEAM SHARE WITH YOU
EVERYTHING YOU'D LIKE BECAUSE I
WAS I WENT THROUGH THEM AS WELL.
AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORK THAT WE
SHOULD CONTINUE AND I HOPE WE
CAN DO IS DO IT IN A WAY. WHERE
EVERYONE?
AS SITTING IN THE LEGISLATURE.
SITTING IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
WORKED OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE NOT ONLY JUST CONTINUE
TO WORK AND DEAL WITH ANY
CONCERNS THERE MAY BE. BUT WE
JUST.
GO GANGBUSTERS ON THIS ONE
BECAUSE AS YOU SAID THERE STILL
PEOPLE OUT THERE.
YOU'VE SAID.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF.
FLAWS IN IT.
SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
IN.
.
TWENTY THIRTEEN TWENTY FOUR TING
ARE I JOIN A MONSTER THAT BILL
TO AUTHORIZE THE ADDITIONAL
MONEY TO TWENTY FOUR. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TOTAL BUDGET THAT YEAR
WAS ELEVEN.
MILLION.
TO DAY.
YOUR TOTAL BUDGET IS IN EXCESS
OF ELEVEN MILLION.
NOW I GET YOU'VE HIRED MORE
PEOPLE WITHOUT MONEY BECAUSE YOU
HAVE THIRTY PEOPLE NOW DOING THE
WORK THAT EIGHT PEOPLE WERE
DOING BEFORE.
BUT YOU DIDN'T TAKE A REDUCTION.
IN MONEY
YOU TOOK A SHORT TERM BOOST IN
MONEY.
BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF TWENTY
FOUR MILLION WAS GIVEN TO US.
BY YOUR STAFF.
A CLEAR THE BACKLOG WE WERE
PROMISED WITHIN A YEAR IT WOULD
HAPPEN THAT WAS NOT ON YOUR
WATCH NOT HOLDING YOU
ACCOUNTABLE FOR A FEW FOR THAT.
UN I I DID SAY SOMETHING NICE
ABOUT THE RAPE KITS.
BUT I'D.
PRINCE AGAIN BUT ABOUT THE
FOURTH. IN HERE BUT I TO.
LOOKING AT THIS.
YOUR BUDGET HASN'T DECLINED IT'S
MAINTAINED ITS LEVEL.
AND YET THE NUMBERS HER
STAGGERING LOW. AND IF YOU LOOK
AT TWENTY FOURTEEN. AND THE
ADDING OF LONG GUNS IF
SIGNIFICANTLY HASN'T CHANGED IT
WHAT HAS CHANGED IS HERE THE
DEBT OF THE DEPARTMENT ISN'T
NEARLY AS AGGRESSIVE AS IT ONCE
WAS.
IN THE FACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE
LONG GUNS HASN'T. CHANGED THE
NUMBERS COMING IN.
IT'S SIMPLY I MEAN IT HAS
INCREASED IT BUT IT HAS A DOUBLE
DATE IT ALLOWED YOU TO GO TO A
HOME.
WHERE YOU FOUND GHOST GUNS YOU
ONLY HAD TWO GUNS ON RECORD IN
THE COLLECTED AT WAS A FORTY TWO
HOME AGAINST THAT JOANNE HAVE
THAT YOU DAHLE?
YEAH TWENTY EIGHT SO WHEN I GO
THROUGH THIS NINE PICKING YOUR
NUMBERS FROM ALL YOUR SITES IN A
MARION TOGETHER.
THERE'S HOLES.
BEYOND OUR IT COULD BE THAT
THEY'RE NOT BE REPORTED
ACCURATELY OR COULD BE.
.
THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING STUFF TO
YOU AND THE REASON WHY I'M SO
GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE HERE.
IS BECAUSE WHEN I'M SITTING UP
HERE IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO
LISTEN TO. HOW GOING FROM EIGHT
PEOPLE TO THIRTY PEOPLE HAVING A
BUDGET THAT'S MAINTAINED WITHIN
A MILLION DOLLARS?
ARE ELEVEN MILLION BACK AND
FOURTEEN WITH EIGHT ELEVEN
MILLION WITH THIRTY.
AND YET WE WENT FROM COLLECTING
FIVE THOUSAND.
TO FOUR HUNDRED.
SO IN WHEN WE WILL GET INTO SOME
THE OTHER ASPECTS IT JUST
DOESN'T ADD UP.
ENTER LIBYA.
WE TRY TO GIVE YOU.
A RESPONSE THAT I HOPE.
CAN HELP US GET TO WHERE WE NEED
TO GO IN THAT. THE MOST
IMPORTANT PART OF MY RESPONSES
AS.
I INVITE YOU TO SIT WITH OUR
TEAM
SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE
NUMBERS WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB
BECAUSE I THINK YOU WERE YOU
WERE ENTITLED TO BE ABLE TO
DO-THE MATH AND ADDED UP. THAT'S
WHAT I'VE BEEN. ASKING MY STAFF
IN DEPARTMENT JUSTICE ON ALL
THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES BECAUSE
IT HAS TO ADD UP I AGREE WITH
YOU COMPLETELY ON THAT.
BUT LET ME SUGGEST YOU SIMPLY.
IN TWENTY THIRTEEN THE REASON
YOU WERE AT.
AND THAT THE LEGISLATURE WERE
WILLING TO GIVE THE DEPARTMENT
JUST MORE MONEY BECAUSE YOU
RECOGNIZED.
WHAT OUR TEAM ESSENTIALLY SAID
BACK THEN I WAS IN HERE THE TIME
BUT SETBACK THAT?
THIS IS A MASSIVE WEIGHT COMING
AT US AND WE'RE NOT HANDLING IT
WE WERE.
NUMBER TWO TWO THOUSAND SIXTY
THOUSAND SEVEN UP UNTIL TO UP
TWENTY THIRTEEN. ESSENTIALLY WE
WERE OPERATING AS IF WE WERE
GETTING A ONE TO TWO THOUSAND
NEW PEOPLE IN THE APPS DATABASES
PROHIBITED PEOPLE EVERY YEAR.
AND WE WERE BEING OVERWHELMED BY
THE NUMBER AND THE BACKLOG WAS
GROWING YEAR AFTER YEAR OF THE
PEOPLE THAT WERE NEVER TOUCHED.
AND INVESTIGATED.
THAT'S WHERE YOU THEN REACTED
SAID LET'S ACT.
HERE'S THE ISSUE.
IT DIDN'T JUST GO UP BY THREE
YEARS SO THOUSAND EVERY YEAR IT
WHEN IT WENT UP DRAMATICALLY AND
LET ME SHOW YOU A CHART THAT
SHOWS THE NUMBER OF
INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE'VE DONE
OVER THE YEARS.
THESE ARE JUST THE
INVESTIGATIONS.
THE PROBLEM HERE STATUS
STATISTIC THERE.
IF THE SHOWS OPEN INVESTIGATIONS
IT DOESN'T SHOW CLOSED
INVESTIGATIONS
SO YOU'VE OPENED A LOT.
AND I GIVE YOU CREDIT YOU KNOW
HOW TO OPEN THEM YOU JUST DON'T
KNOW HOW TO CLOSE UP. SEE
BECAUSE IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
YOU HAD OVER TEN THOUSAND I
MEAN.
THAT OF SUBJECTS ADDED TO THE
APPS LIST
AN EIGHTEEN YEAR TEN THOUSAND
THREE HUNDRED FIFTY.
SO YOU THE NUMBER WAS NOT THAT
STAGGERING IF YOU GO BACK TO
EVEN TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN WAS
EIGHT. EIGHT THOUSAND.
SO WE HAVEN'T GONE FROM TWO
THOUSAND TO TEN THOUSAND.
WE'VE HAD A MUCH SMALLER IF YOU
LOOK PERCENTAGE WISE ES WERE
MOVING THROUGH. THE NUMBERS ARE
STAGGERING THAT'S WHY I'M SO
GRATEFUL YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE
YOU'RE A VERY SMART.
AND I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT YOU
REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT
THIS IS FOR ANYBODY WHO LOOKS AT
THE NUMBERS AND STARCHES TO THE
GROUND.
AND I'M I'M THINKING AFTER THIS
MEETING WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS
FIXED FAST WEEK SO WHAT DO THIS
TOGETHER.
WELL YOU DON'T NEED MY HELP
YOU'RE MORE THAN CAPABLE AND WE
JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IN A
WAY TO ACTUALLY DELIVERS. AND
CAPTURING THOSE WEAPONS THEY'RE
WALKING OUR STREETS PUTTING OUR
LIVES AT RISK IN ONE PORT WE
COULD WALK ON A SCHOOL CAMPUS IN
ANY TIME.
AND UNLOAD SEWER INCREASING LOSS
AND LAW ABIDING CITIZENS WHO
HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG.
THE VERY PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW OUR
THREAT TO OUR SECURITY.
ARE GROWING IN NUMBERS AND WE'RE
DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT IN WHEN I
LOOK AT THIS AND I LOOK AT THE
NUMBERS ARE TAKING NOW YOU'VE
OPENED A WHOLE BUNCH OF CASES
BUT YOU HAVEN'T CLOSED ANYTHING.
IF YOU GO BACK TO TWO THOUSAND
SEVENTEEN THE NUMBERS ALMOST
IDENTICAL.
THEN YOU ONLY HAD ONE MUNCHKIN
FISHER SWISS YOU HAD FIFTEEN
EMPLOYEES.
IN EIGHTEEN YET THIRTY.
WE'VE DOUBLED YOUR EMPLOYEES AND
YOUR PRODUCTION.
ONE FROM TWO THOUSAND.
BUT THE FIFTH FIFTY SEVEN TO
FOUR HUNDRED EIGHT.
THAT'S THE DAY SO YOU REALLY ARE
CAPTURING NUMBERS WITHOUT
LOOKING AT THEM.
THE WEIGHT AS A SAID THEY FOLLOW
YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN INSTANT IN
TIME WHEN YOU SAY ONLY FOUR
HUNDRED AND EIGHT WERE DISPOSED
OF YOU'RE NOT TAKING INTO
ACCOUNT. THAT YOU SAW THE THEN
YOU'RE NOT TAKING ACCOUNT OF THE
MATH THAT THERE WERE.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO CAME
ONTO THE LOOK THE APPS LIST
UNDER HE RIPPED THOUSANDS AND WE
REMOVED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND
WE NETTED ONLY A SMALLER NUMBER
BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO
KEEP COMING YANKEES GROWING DOSE
OF THE WAVES. AND IF YOU LOOK
ONLY AT AN INSTANT IN TIME AND
YOU TAKE PLATE NUMBERS YOU'RE OF
COURSE THAT GOING TO SEE HOW IT
WORKS OUT WE WERE MORE EFFECTIVE
WITH THE PEOPLE. THAT WE ARE
THIRTY FOUR THAT'S IF YOU GO
BACK AND USE IT AS A PERCENTAGE
GETS A PERCENTAGE WILL ADJUST
FOR THE RAW NUMBERS EVEN IF YOUR
RAW NUMBERS INCREASE INACCURATE.
I HAVE THE NUMBERS I'M LOOKING
ON AND YON COMPARING SEVENTY
DATING BECAUSE THOSE ARE REALLY
CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. AND I GET
THE WAVE.
SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS GO IN A
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE YOU USED?
I WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND
LOCAL AGENCIES
BECAUSE WE AUTHORIZED FIVE
MILLION DOLLARS AND WHEN I
CHECKED YOUR WEBSITE IN SPEND
ANY OF IT.
AND SO I'M WONDERING.
UNDER THIS MAGICAL MYSTICAL
THING HERE OF WAVES WHEN DO WE
ACTUALLY APPLYING THE MONEY THAT
YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO APPLY TO
ACTUALLY GO AFTER THESE PEOPLE
AND CLOSE HIS CASES.
NO THESE ARE PEOPLE WITH WEAPONS
ARE NOT WALKING MILES WHAT
NOODLES THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT
ARE DANGEROUS TO OUR SOCIETY.
AND YOU ARE.
.
VERY TALENTED.
BY WE REALLY WANT TO DRILL DOWN
BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHEN YOU
GET DARLING YOU LOOK AT THE
NUMBERS INTO IT NON LOCK.
I NEVER CAME FROM LAW
ENFORCEMENT I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.
BUT I DID. PASS IN FINANCE.
AND I'M A FINANCE DEGREE WHEN I
LOOK IN APPLY FOR FINANCIAL
PRINCIPLES TO THERE'S.
THE COST PER UNIT NOR THOSE
THINGS.
IT'S ASTOUNDING THAT WE SPENT SO
MUCH MONEY SO MUCH EFFORT AND
HAVE SO LITTLE TO SHOW FOR IT
AND I GET TO SOME OF THESE
PEOPLE.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA GO IN IN AND
YOU KNOW WHEN I LOOK.
ALMOST EVERY YEAR YOU HAVE CLOSE
TO THREE THOUSAND OR BETWEEN
THREE AND FOUR THOUSAND PEOPLE.
THAT EITHER ARE NO LONGER
PROHIBITED PERSON BECAUSE THEY
WERE ON OUR LIST BACKLOGGED
DURING THE WHOLE TIME THEY
HADN'T THEY WERE ON THE APPS NOW
THEY'RE NO LONGER QUALIFY FOR
THE APPS. SO THEY'VE COME OFF
NATURALLY OR THAT PASSED AWAY.
WHEN THAT NUMBER IS GREATER THAN
THE NUMBER THAT YOU'RE
PRODUCING.
THAT SHOULD BE A SIGNAL THAT
WE'RE NOT GIVING IT OUR FULL
ATTENTION BUT IT'S NOT GREATER
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO
TELL YOU YOU'RE LOOKING AT
YOU'RE NOT MAKING A. TRUE
COMPARISON AND I'M I'M MORE THAN
WILLING TO HAVE MY TEAM SIT DOWN
WITH YOU BECAUSE AGAIN IF YOU'RE
LOOKING AT SNAPSHOTS YOU'RE NOT
GETTING THE FULL PICTURE. LED
THE ME PRETTY TO THIS WAY.
WE HAVE TEAMS WHO GO OUT TO
INSPECT THE PROMISES TO REMOVE
WEAPONS FROM AN INDIVIDUAL. THEY
GO NGUYEN.
IF THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED IN THEY
HAVE TO COME BACK
WE'RE GONNA COME BACK IN THE
PERSONS TALK TO THEM AND SAYS
WELL I MAY HAVE A MAY NOT. MAY
ALLOW US INTO IT TO INVESTIGATE
INTO SEARCH THE PREMISES MAY NOT
FIND THE WEAPONS WE STILL CAN'T
TAKE THE PERSON OFFICE COME BACK
A THIRD TIME. IF WE THEY SAID
WELL WE I THINK MY BROTHER Y.
MIGHT HAVE A WEAPON IF YOU GO
DOWN AND SEARCH THE BROTHER IN
LAW'S HOME.
THE FINAL WHAT WE STILL CARRY
MORE THAT PERSON FROM THE LIST
SO YOU CAN TOUCH THESE
INDIVIDUALS NUMEROUS TIMES.
AND STILL HAVE TO KEEP THE
PERSON ON THE LIST AND SO IF YOU
DON'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION
ALL THE WORK THAT GOES INTO
THIS.
THEN YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE FULL
SCOPE OF THAT THE TREMENDOUS
WORK THAT FOLKS ARE DOING WHEN
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WEAPONS
HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE HANDS
OF PEOPLE. WHO ARE PROHIBITED
FROM HAVING A?
SO THAT MY LAST QUESTION THEN
WILL GO TO THINGS ONE.
I THINK.
POSTED ON THE WEBSITE NUCLEAR
FASHION THAT ALL SYSTEMS CAN SEE
AND WHERE THIS IS WILL HELP
CLARIFY IF WE COULD DO THAT.
THE SECOND THING IS. STAR IN
MIND TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS
SUCH A DAUNTING TASK THAT WE CAN
SEND A MAN TO THE MOON BUT WE
CAN'T CLEAR APPS FILE. BECAUSE
IT WAS GIVEN HEARINGS HAVE YOU
HERE AS THIS IS SO TONTINE SO
HARD YET WE KNOW.
THAT WHEN THE PROGRAM FIRST
STARTED SEVEN THE THINGS THE
DEPARTMENT WAS DOING.
COULD ONLY BE DESCRIBED AS
SILLY.
AND OF THOSE MEN GOING TO THE
MOON DID HAVE TO DEAL WITH FOLKS
WHO HAVE. COMMITTED FELONIES OR
WHO ARE DANGEROUS AND OR
POSSESSION OF WEAPONS.
IT IS TOUGH WORK
AND I I DEFY ANYONE.
PUT THEMSELVES INSIDE THOSE ARE.
BULLET PROOF VESTS THAT THESE
YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN GET INTO
EVERY DAY AND THINK THAT IT'S
EASY TO DO. AND THEY DO THE BEST
THEY CAN. WITH THE RESOURCES WE
GIVE THEM AND I I AM MORE THAN
WILLING AND EVERYONE EVERYONE OF
THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE WITH
PURE FARMS I GUARANTEE WOULD BE
MORE THAN WILLING TO BE WITH
YOU.
AND TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I
THINK THE LAST THING THEY WANT
OR YOU AND I WANT IS FOR US TO.
NOT ALLOW THIS PROGRAM TO
REALLY.
GET TO THE PLACE IT HAS TO BE IN
THAT IS THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE
THAT WE'RE REMOVING ALL WEAPONS
FROM PEOPLE WHO'VE LOST THE
RIGHT TO POSSESS A. SOUL
LEGITIMATE LAW ABIDING GUN
OWNERS DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
THAT.
I HAVE NEVER SUGGESTED THE JOB
WAS EASY.
I HAVE NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR
THOSE FOLKS YOU KNOW THESE
PEOPLE ARE DANGEROUS HE YOU KNOW
THAT'S A ONE POINT THEIR LIFE
HAD POSSESSION OF A WEAPON WITH
YOU HAVE TO WEAR NOW.
THEY WERE IN THE POSSESSION OF A
WEAPON.
I KIND OF THINK IT'S WHEN THE
TOUGHEST JOBS EITHER BECAUSE YOU
DON'T KNOW WHAT'S AROUND THE
CORNER.
BUT.
CERTAINLY THERE HAS TO BE A
DOLLAR AMOUNT IN A TIME TABLE
THAT'S ACHIEVABLE AGREE.
SO WHAT IS IT.
WE CAN SIT DOWN AND TRY TO
FIGURE THAT OUT BUT WE IT'S HARD
TO DO IT WHEN YOU GIVE IS
TEMPORARY DOLLARS TO ACHIEVE A
PERMANENT MISSION.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TEMPORARY
DOLLARS TO I I WANTED. APOLOGIES
I HAVE TO INTERVENE HERE AND THE
REASON I HAVE TO INTERVENE IS
BECAUSE I REALLY APPRECIATE
SENATOR ANDERSON YOUR PASSION
AND I SHARE IT I WANT.
THIS
THE V. I WANT EVERYONE IS ON THE
APPS LISTA GET THEIR WEAPONS
REMOVED BUT I WANTED THE REASON
I'M INTERVIEWING INTERVENING IS
BECAUSE YOU BOTH KEEP
REFERENCING THIRTY POSITIONS IF
YOU LOOK AT THE ITEM. IS
ACTUALLY TWENTY TWO POSITIONS
THAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO MAKE
PERMANENT.
THE.
THE CHART THAT REFERS TO THIRTY
IS FOR A DIFFERENT ITEM AND IT'S
A DIFFERENT DIVISION. SO IT IS
ONLY TWENTY TWO POSITIONS
THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE.
YOU'RE WELCOME. AND.
I HAVE A FEW OTHER POINTS BT I
JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT. OUT
THERE RIGHT NOW SO THAT WE
CORRECT THAT RECORD AND THEN I
WILL MAKE MY OTHER POINTS SO
SENATOR ANDERSON WILL GIVE YOU
BACK THE MIGHT.
WELL I JUST SAY THAT IF YOU
COULD COME UP WITH A BUDGET THAT
WOULD GET US TO PROTECTING OUR.
COMMUNITIES FROM THESE FOLKS.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SUPPORT IT
IRAN THE BILL WITH CENTER LENO
LAST TIME.
BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A PLAN
THAT CAN IT BE EXECUTED WITH
RESULTS
AND IN AND IF I CAN JUST
SENATORS.
BECAUSE THANK I APPRECIATE YOUR
SAYING THAT.
AND I HOPE WE DO IS TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT.
THE CHANGING NATURE OF THE WORK
SO IN TWENTY THIRTEN KNOW WHEN.
NEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE
LONGER ENDS ADDED TO THE LIST OF
WEAPONS WHICH CHANGED
DRAMATICALLY THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT STARTED COMMUNITY
APPS. AND SO WE HAVE TO BE A
FORECAST BETTER SO THIS WAY WHEN
WE GIVE YOU A HARD ESTIMATE.
WE'RE BASING IT ON WHAT WE
EXPECT TO HAVE BECAUSE WHO KNOWS
WHAT THAT YOU SIT AROUND THE
CORNER WE WE DON'T WANNA BE
BROADSIDED IT'S TO PORT OF OF A
JOB.
SHOWING GREAT RESTRAINT BECAUSE
I CERTAINLY MORE NUMBERS TO GO
AFTER IT SO THEN NOW I WILL.
.
ALRIGHT SO THIS IS A OVERSIGHT
AN INFORMATION ITEM BECAUSE WE
DON'T HAVE AN ACTION BECAUSE WE
ALREADY MADE THE TWENTY TWO
POSITIONS PERMANENT BUT IT IS
TWENTY TWO THAT WE MADE
PERMANENT NOT THIRTY.
ALRIGHT SO THAT'S THE FIRST
POINT I WANT TO MAKE
THE SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE
WHILE I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH
YOUR OBJECTIVE SENATOR ANDERSON
AND I WANT. IN AND I WILL RE
EMPHASIZE THIS I ABSOLUTELY WANT
DOJ TO.
RETRIEVE ALL THE WEAPONS FROM
EVERYONE WHO IS ON THE
PROHIBITED PERSONS LIST BUT I
WILL POINT OUT.
THAT.
LEARN AS WAS DESCRIBED THERE'S A
LOT OF STEPS INVOLVED
IT'S NOT JUST THE STEPS OF HOW
MANY TIMES IT MAY TAKE TO SEND
YOUR OFFICERS OUT.
BUT IT'S ALSO FIRST IDENTIFYING.
WHO?
SO OUR PROCESS FOR GUN
PURCHASING IS.
THE INFORMATION IS GUIDE THE
PERSON GOES THERE'S A WAITING
PERIOD THERE DO THE BACKGROUND
CHECK INSIGHTS AND THEN AND IN
MANY CASES THE APPS LIST IS RUN
SIMULTANEOUSLY. OTHER TIMES WHAT
WE'RE DOING IS JUST LOOKING AT.
ARE LIST OF GUN OWNERSHIP
AGAINST PEOPLE THAT MAYBE NEWLY.
ADDED TO THE PROHIBITED PERSONS
LIST VERSUS AT THE POINT OF SALE
SO THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS
INVOLVED HERE. AND THE REASON
I'M BRINGING IT UP IS BECAUSE IN
TWENTY FOURTEEN SO IN TWENTY
THIRTEEN BEFORE WE HEAD OUT AND
LONG GUNS.%
THE DIVISION WAS ONLY DEALING
WITH.
MAX.
FOR OVER THE YEARS SO IN TWO
THOUSAND SEVEN ABOUT TWO HUNDRED
THOUSAND IT STAYED AROUND THE
TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND RANGE UNTIL
IT JUMPED UP IN TWENTY TWELVE TO
THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY EIGHT
THOUSAND.
THEN FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND AND
TWENTY THIRTEEN BUT WHEN LONG
GUNS WERE ADDED.
IT JUMPS TO CLOSE TO A MILLION
AND SINCE THAT TIME EACH YEAR.
IT'S BEEN CLOSE TO A MILLION IN
OTHER WORDSA MILLION GUNS
PURCHASED THAT COULD BE ELIGIBLE
FOR APPS.
THUS ADDING ADDITIONALLY TO THE
WORKLOAD NOW I KNOW THOSE ALL OF
ITS NOT COMPLETELY ANALOGOUS BUT
IT DOES.
IT DOES INCREASE THE WORKLOAD
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
DIFFERENCE.
FROM THE NUMBER OF ARMED
CONTRIBUTED PERSONS IDENTIFIED
VERSES THE ABSENT DESTINATIONS
CONDUCTED.
THE GAP HAS DROPPED IT WENT
FROM.
LIKE SIXTEEN QUE IN TWENTY
FOURTEEN DOWN TO FIFTEEN HUNDRED
KATE TODAY.
SO WELL I DO NOT WANT TO SEE
THAT FIFTEEN HUNDRED KA I A AT
LEAST WILL GIVE SOME CREDIT THAT
IT HAS DROPPED.
BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE
WANT IT.
ZERO.
SO I JUST THINK WAS IMPORTANT TO
PUT IT IN THAT CONTEXT.
THANK YOU MA'AM CHAIRED IN I DID
HAVE THE WRONG GRAPH I HAD THE
GRAPHIC HAD NO WORRIES.
BUT IT WORRIES THE NUMBERS
YOU'RE REFERRING TO THOUGH ARE
THE PURCHASE AND DENIALS THROUGH
WHICH ARE NOT TROOPS.
SO.
ACTUALLY IT'S ABSENT
DESTINATIONS CONDUCTED SO ONE
NUMBER I WOULD SUGGEST WAS
REFERRING TO HIS GUNS PURCHASED.
THE OTHERS WERE THE ABSENT BEST
CATIONS CONDUCTED.
BOB WHEN WE HAVE THE APPS
INVESTIGATIONS CONDUCTED.
SO I COULD SAY BECAUSE I LOOKED
AT THOSE FILES THAT ALL BEEN
OPENED.
THAT'S NOT A GOOD MEASURE OF
PRODUCTION BECAUSE.
I AM NOT TRYING TO COOK THE
BOOKS BUT I CERTAINLY CAN COOK
THE BOOKS RACING Y. LOOK TO FIVE
CASES TODAY THEM SO NOW I GET TO
PUT DOWN I BUDGET FIVE CASES.
I THINK WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO
FOCUS ON IS THE BENEFIT OF THE
END WOOD CHAIRS. FEWER GUNS IN
THE HANDS OF DANGEROUS PEOPLE.
AND INVESTIGATIONS DOES NOT
SOLVE THEIR THE ONLY NUMBER THAT
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS.
HOW MANY GUNS READING OF THE
STREET?
OKAY APPRECIATE THAT
CLARIFICATION WHEN WITH A CLEAR.
AND I THINK WE ARE OBVIOUSLY
YOU'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT
IT IS A PRIORITY OF THE ENTIRE
COMMITTEE.
AND.
.
YES AND WE DO APPRECIATE THE
UPDATE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO.
NEXT YEAR'S HEARING PERHAPS
HAVING A DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAT
WERE.
AND JEREMY YES GO OUT HERE AND.
I.
IT ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE
SIERRA.
I KNOW YOU'RE ON A TIGHT
SCHEDULE I REALLY REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME
MAYBE MISS YOUR FLIGHT. JUST TO
BE HERE FOR THIS DISCUSSION.
I DO THINK THERE ARE TWO OTHERS
A LOT OF PLAY.
CAN BE VERY CONFUSING BUT
BECAUSE YOU GAVE YOUR ABSOLUTE
FOCUS I'M DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE
THANK YOU. ARREST HIM LOOKING
FOR WORK WITH YOU ON THIS.
HER RIGHT ARM I BELIEVE WE CAN
ASK WEAKENED ALLOW ATTORNEY
GENERAL VISCERA TO LEAVE WE DO
STILL HAVE.
THREE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE JUST
DISCUSSION.
BUT I THINK YOU HAVE OTHER
STAFF HERE THAT CAN HANDLE THAT
AND THEN.
.
WE HAVE YET THOSE ARE JUST
DISCUSSION OKAY.
YOU BEEN DRINKING VERY MUCH.
ALRIGHT.
SO WE WILL NOW GO TO AYE ISSUE
FOURTEEN THE ANTITRUST
WORKLOADS.
.
WAIT A MINUTE. SO SO THIS IS AN
ISSUE THAT HAS.
A.
BC P. RELATED TO IT BUT WE ARE
HOLDING IT OPEN UNTIL THE MAY
REVISE. BUT WE CERTAINLY.
CAN HEAR IT NOW.
.
SO.
.
PLEASE PERCENT.
SURE THIS IS THE ANTITRUST
BICU SEE YES THE SANTA TRUST
WORKLOAD RIGHT WHICH IS THE
ISSUE FOURTEEN.
FOURTEEN IS REQUEST FOR TWENTY
THREE POSITIONS.
I'M AND ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION
DOLLARS IN GREAT.
AND.
WE REQUEST IS ESSENTIALLY A
WORKLOAD BCP.
AND I WILL DO ADDRESS EXPANDING
WORKLOAD IN THE SECTION.
OKAY.
.
A I KNOW THE ELIO THINKS THAT.
DOES NOT ENOUGH.
.
JUSTIFICATION FOR THE WORK LIKE
THAT I THINK THAT WHAT.
.
RATHER THAN.
GOING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY.
.
BUT IT'S A SINCE WE'RE NOT
ACTING ON THE ITEM.
AND IT MAY BE MODIFIED OR MAY
NOT BE.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTH IT TO.
.
IN ARE NEXT AT WHEN WE REVISIT
THIS AGAIN.
YOU MIGHT ADDRESS THE CONCERNS
THAT THE LA JOH.
I RACED.
YEAH.
RIGHT SO I'M GOING TO.
MOVE ON THEN.
TO ISSUE FIFTEEN.
THE BUREAU OF GAMBLING CONTROL
ON THE THIRD PARTY PROVIDERS
WORKLOAD.
THAT IS ALSO. THE ON ACTION ITEM
THAT WE ARE HOLDING OPEN BUT WE
WILL HEAR IT NOW.
AND I'M SURE CHRIS RYAN
DEPARTMENT JUSTICE
AND AGAIN THIS IS A I REQUEST TO
ADDRESS WORKLOAD IN THE BUREAU
IS FOR ONE POINT SIX MILLION AND
A TWELVE POSITIONS.
OKAY.
.
AND MY QUESTION ON THIS IS.
WATER YOU'RE EXPECTED OUTCOMES
BY MAKING THESE POSITIONS
PERMANENT AND HOW SOON DO YOU
ANTICIPATE. ELIMINATING THE
BACKLOG.
BUT AFTERNOON ON TOMORROW I'M
ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH YOUR
AGAIN THE CONTROL.
I'M.
WITH THE TWELVE AND AN
ADDITIONAL TWENTY THAT WE
RECEIVED THAT TIME HE WOULD BE
SUBMITTING THEIR PCP FOR I'M
NEXT FISCAL YEAR WE ANTICIPATE
IN.
TWENTY KILLED TWENTY THREE.
THAT THE BACKLOG WOULD BE
REDUCED TO ZERO.
WHICH MEANS WE WOULD JUST BE
COMPLETING ONGOING WORK OR
INCOMING WORK.
OKAY SO THEN.
.
I GUESS IT. THE QUESTION FOR ME
WOULD BE.
SOME OF THESE POSITIONS ARE TO
DO WITH THE BACKLOG. AND.
WHY WE HAD THE BACKLOG IN THE
FIRST PLACE I'M NOT SURE WHETHER
WE JUST HAD ON FILLED? BUT THEN
THE QUESTION IS.
WHAT WE WHAT IS THE ACTUAL?
FTE THAT'S NEEDED THIS TO
MAINTAIN BECAUSE I'M NOT
INTERESTED.
IN. INCREASING F. T. E. IF IT IS
NOT SOMETHING THAT.
IF WE GET PAST THE BACKLOG.
THAT ASSESSMENT OF WHAT IS THE
LEGITIMATE.
F. T. E. NEED FOR THE ONGOING
WORK.
I'M.
WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THAT DATA
THAT TWENTY POSITIONS THAT WE
RECEIVED ADDITIONALLY I'M WE'VE
REALLY ONLY HARD WORKING FOR
ABOUT ONE YEAR.
I AM SO IT'S WE'RE NOT ONE
HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR.
.
HOW MANY POSITIONS WILL NEED
ONGOING THE TWELVE I THINK ARE
ABSOLUTELY? JUSTIFIABLE IN
NEEDED FOR THE ONGOING WORKLOAD.
THE DATA FROM THE TWENTY IS
SOMETHING THAT WILL LOOK OUT IN
THE COMING YEAR.
SEE IF THE WHOLE THIRTY TWO ARE
NEEDED.
SO IT'S IT'S.
PERMANENT FUNDING FOR THE
TWELFTH AND HOW MANY FOR TWO. OR
THREE YEAR LIMITED TERM.
THOUGH WE'RE ASKING FOR
PERMANENT FUNDING FOR THE TWELVE
POSITIONS YES MISSIONS THAT WE
HAVE ARE LIMITED TERM FUNDING.
THAT WE WOULD BE SUBMIT LOW
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THERE'S
JUST EIGHT.
THAT WOULD BE LIMITED TERM IN
OTHER WORDS IF YOU SAID THERE'S.
TWENTY TOTAL IN YOU ALREADY WERE
PROVE YOU ALREADY HAD THE TWELVE
POSITIONS RIGHT. NOW.
IT'S THIRTY TO POSSESS TO
RETAIN.
SORRY.
THERE BUDGET SAYS THAT YOU ARE
ASKING FOR THIS PERMANENT FUNNY
TO RETAIN TWELVE POSITIONS
RETAIN USUALLY REFERENCES
SENIORITY HAD THOSE TWELVE
POSITION.
WE HAVE THE TWELVE POSITIONS
THEY RUN THREE YEAR LIMITED
TERMS
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR PERMANENT
FUNDING ON GOING TO MAINTAIN
THIS TWELFTH.
WHETHER THEY EXPIRE. RIGHT IT
KNOW BECAUSE OF THEIR PERMIT IS
THEY NEVER EXPIRE SO THAT'S MY
POINT ITS WIRE WE'VE PROVIDING
PERMANENT POSITIONS FOR A
BACKLOG THAT ONCE WE GET OVER
WILL NOT HAVE THAT SAME
WORKLOAD.
AND I'M SURE THAT THIS IS TO.
MAKE THESE POSITIONS PERMANENT
THERE WAS A LIMITED TERM
POSITIONS IN THE PAST AND THEN
THERE'S ANOTHER TRANSIT
POSITIONS THE TWENTY OR SO THAT
ARE ON A LIMITED TERM BASIS AS
WELL. SO THESE TWELVE ARE TO
DRAFT TO ADDRESS WHAT WE BELIEVE
IS THE ONGOING WORKLOAD NEXT
YEAR WILL COME BACK AND ADDRESS
THE TWENTY POSITIONS THAT ARE
CURRENTLY ON A LIMITED TERM
BASIS.
SO OUR GOAL IS TO GET PERMANENT
FUNDING FOR THESE TWELVE.
AND THE ADDRESS WITH THE ONGOING
NEED IS WHEN THE OTHER POSITIONS
THAT ARE PART OF OUR.
ORGANIZATION AT THIS POINT
EXPIRE NEXT YEAR.
AND I THINK ARC ARE ISSUE WITH
THE LA ARE CONCERNED WITH THE LA
WAS THAT IF WE TAG LEAST
PROPOSITIONS AS LIMITED TERM
CURRENTLY. WILL HAVE A HARD TIME
FILLING THOSE POSITIONS WHOM AND
WE WON'T HAVE A TRUE PICTURE OF
WHAT THAT. ONGOING THROUGHPUT IS
ON OUR BACKLOG IN THE CA IN THE
OUT YEARS.
WHO?
THERE YOU HAVE THOSE TROPHY'S
ASIANS NOW MEAN THAT YOU HAVE
THEM.
CURRENTLY AN ON A LIMITED TERM
BASIS SO WE WILL I REQUEST IS TO
MAKE THEM ANA.
THE MINUTE THEY ARE GONNA
EXPIRED THIS YEAR.
THOUGH THIS YEAR THIS WOULDN'T.
RIGHT BUT IF THEY'RE. GAY HERE'S
MY PROBLEM.
IF THEY'RE PEOPLE THAT ARE
ALREADY EVERT HIRED THEM.
AND THEN IT STE IT'S AN EFFECT A
IF THEY WERE VACANT.
AND WE WERE THEN.
APPROVING LIMITED TERMS YES VERY
DIFFICULT TO HIRE.
BUT THERE THERE NOW YES THEY
COULD LEAVE IF THEY KNEW THAT
THEY WERE ONLY BEING OFFERED FOR
ONE MORE YEAR FOR THE MOMENT.
BUT.
.
IT.
WE CAN'T ASSESS WHICH ARE REAL
WORKLOAD IS UNTIL THE BACKLOG IS
DONE.
LARA.
I THINK THAT'S HE BASICALLY THE
THRUST OF WHAT THE LA ALWAYS
YEAH.
SO.
I MEAN I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO
HIRE FOR SURE FOR LIMITED TERM
BUT IF THEY'RE IN THE POSITIONS
NOW.
SO WE'RE GOING IT OPEN THAT
SENATOR DOLE DO YOU HAVE THOSE I
DON'T.
OKAY I UNDERSTAND.
OKAY.
ALRIGHT.
HIGH TECH. THEN WE WILL GO TO
ISSUE SIXTEEN THE TAX RECOVERING
CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT. TASK FORCE
AUGMENTATION.
NO.
.
THIS ONE.
OKAY.
RIGHT SO. THIS IS ASSOCIATED.
OKAY.
.
THE TRUST US FORCE WAS
ESTABLISHED BY PREVIOUS.
STATUTE AND.
TWENTY THIRTEEN.
AND I.
I GUESS LITTLE HOOVER COMMISSION
PUBLISHED REPORT THAT
RECOGNIZED.
ACCESS THE TRASK.
TREECE TASK FORCE.
SO THIS.
.
DISCUSSIONS RULING ON WHETHER.
WEATHER.
AUGMENTATION IS NEEDED.
OR NOT TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS
OF THE TASK FORCE.
YES MA'AM WINNING JIM DISCLOSE
IN THE SPECIAL AGENT CHARGED
WITH CALIFORNIA BERMAN JUSTICE
BUREAU INVESTIGATION AND PROGRAM
MANAGER FOR THE TREES TASK.
FIRST TASK FORCE IS AN EXTREMELY
UNIQUE AND COMPLEX MULTI AGENCY.
ENFORCEMENT MODEL THAT IS
COMMITTED TO COMBAT IN ORGANIZED
CRIMINAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITIES AND
PROVIDING A QUICK RESPONSE TO
THESE ACTIVITIES THE DEFRAUD
STATE. CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES
OR RECOVERING REVENUE LOST THE
UNDERGROUND ECONOMY WHICH FUNDS
VITAL PUBLIC RESOURCES.
THESE ECONOMIC ACTIVITIES
INCLUDE TAX FRAUD TAX EVASION
SMUGGLING AND THE UNDERGROUND
ECONOMY.
CHRIS ACCOMPLISHES THIS BY.
MULTIPLE AGENCIES POOLING
RESOURCES A LEVERAGE LEVERAGING
ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS
COLLABORATING AND SHARING DATA.
STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS.
OFFICIALLY PROSECUTING
VIOLATIONS COVERING
JURISDICTIONS A MODEL AGENCIES
TO ADDRESS THE SEVERITY OF THE
CRIMES.
AN IMPOSING APPROPRIATE
PENALTIES ON CONVICTED
VIOLATORS.
AND RECOVERING STATE ELEVEN
REVENUE LOSS TO THE UNDERGROUND
ECONOMY.
CHRIS BEGAN AS YOU SAID A PILOT
PROBLEM. PILOT PROGRAM BUT
BECAME A SUCCESSFUL GOVERNMENT
MEASURE AND IN CAPTURING
REVENUES.
TRACE DOES THIS BY EXCHANGING
INTELLIGENCE DATA DOCUMENTS
INFORMATION COMPLAINTS.
OR LEAVE REFERRALS FOR THE
PURPOSE OF INVESTIGATING
CRIMINAL TAX EVASION ASSOCIATED
WITH THE UNDERGROUND ECONOMIC
ACTIVITIES.
SACRAMENTO TEAM WAS STAFF TO
LATE TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN AND
LOS ANGELES WAS NOT STAFFED
UNTIL MID TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN.
AS A RESULT THUS FAR TRACES HAD
SEVEN HUNDRED SEVEN COMPLAINTS
RECEIVED.
A HUNDRED NINETY COMPLAINTS
REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCIES.
THREE HUNDRED NINETEEN
COMPLAINTS IN PRELIMINARY OR
FULL INVESTIGATION.
ELEVEN OF THESE CASES CURRENTLY
IN THE PROCESS OF BEING
PROSECUTED
TWENTY SEVEN CASES
EXCESSIVELY PROSECUTED.
DURING THESE CASES WE'VE
IDENTIFIED OVER TO INTERN TEN
MILLION IN UNDER REPORTED OR
UNREPORTED INCOME.
WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT FORTY SIX
MILLION ATTACKS LOSS THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA.
THE COURT ORDER RESTITUTION WE
HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN. IT'S BEEN
ORDERED FOURTEEN MILLION FIVE OR
NINETY SIX THOUSAND.
BACK TO VICTIM AGENCIES TEND OF
WHICH TEN MILLION THAT IS THAT
WE'VE ACTUALLY RECOVERED.
WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL OVER
TWENTY NINE MILLION POTENTIAL
RECOVERY BEEN TESTED IT
ANTICIPATED BUILDINGS IN
RESTITUTION FOR TAX LOSS.
ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ONGOING
CASES.
WITH INFUSION OF THE FUNDS VIA
THIS BILL HE WILL PERMIT WE
ESTABLISHED THE TREES TASK FORCE
WITH THE DEPARTMENTOF JUSTICE
TO INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE
AGREE JUST FELONY LEVEL.
UNDERGROUND ECONOMIC CRIMES
IT WILL STABILIZE AND STRENGTHEN
THE EXISTING TEAMS WHICH ARE
CURRENTLY STAFF WITH EXISTING
RESOURCES.
IT WILL EXPAND TRACE AND OTHER
MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS IN THE
STATE BY CODIFYING THE EXISTING
TREES TEAMS IN SACRAMENTO LOS
ANGELES IN ESTABLISHING.
ADDITIONAL TRACE TEAMS IN SAN
DIEGO THE BAY AREA FRESNO.
IT WILL CONTINUE TO AUTHOR IS
AUTHORIZED AND FACILITATE DATA
IN INTELLIGENCE SHARING AMONG
PERSON PARTICIPATING
GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES. TO ASSIST
IN THE INVESTIGATION AND
PROSECUTION FUNCTIONS OF THE
TRACE PROGRAM. AND IT WILL MAKE
THE PROGRAM MORE EFFICIENT
EFFECTIVE STATEWIDE YIELDING
EVEN A BETTER RESULT. WHILE
LEAVING LEVELING THE PLAYING
FIELD FOR CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES.
SO I THINK THE QUESTION THAT I
MIGHT HAVE IN TERMS OF IS THAT.
THE TASK FORCES ESTABLISHED.
AND IT YOU HAVE BEEN.
MANY HAS STAFF IN HIS BEEN
DOING THESE INVESTIGATIONS.
.
I THINK.
A THING I MENTIONED IS WHETHER
MEAN OBVIOUSLY MOST ALL
DEPARTMENTS AND.
CAN UTILIZE DE ADDITIONAL STAFF
BUT.
WHETHER IT BE.
.
THE REPORT OF.
TWO HUNDRED TEN MILLION.
IDENTIFIED ON REPORTED OR UNDER
REPORTED.
I GROSS SALES OR GROSS RECEIPTS
THAT HAVE SO FAR BEEN IDENTIFIED
BY THE TASK FORCE AND.
THERE'S BEEN ONLY A FRACTION OF
THAT RECOVERED.
WHETHER IT'S A LACK OF STAFF
CAPACITY FOR.
THE THE INABILITY TO RECOVER YET
OR WHETHER OTHER OBSTACLES THAT
MIGHT EXIST EITHER DO YOU DO.
BY THE ENTITIES THAT WERE
PURSUING NOT HAVING THE ASSETS
TO AT GET REDISCOVERY OR OTHER
COURT ISSUES OR.
SO IF YOU COULD. DISCUSS THAT
SOME WHAT YOU'RE IT'S ACTUALLY
ALL OF THE ABOVE THE.
NUMBER ONE OR TWO TEAMS
THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE ONLY FOR A
SHORT TIME.
THEY ARE EXISTING RESOURCES SO
IT'S A MUTUAL AID CONCEPT
EACH AGENCY IS PONY UP THEIR
BODIES TO DO THESE
INVESTIGATIONS BUT UNFORTUNATELY
THESE.
INDIVIDUAL INVESTIGATORS THIS IS
NOT THE SOLE RESPONSE.
SO
THAT'S ONE ISSUE WEEK
WITH MORE MEMBERS WE COULD
ACTUALLY GET TO SOME OF THESE
OTHER CASES AND.
INVESTIGATED THOROUGHLY.
THE REALISTICALLY WHAT WHAT IS
THE GIVEN THIS.
WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TYPE OF
CASES REALISTICALLY HOW MUCH?
MORE RECOVERY COULD BE
ANTICIPATED GIVEN THAT WE KNOW
SOME OF THE RECOVERY DOES NOT
OCCUR BECAUSE THERE ARE NO
ASSETS TO RECOVER. OR YOU KNOW
OTHER FACTORS SURE THAT'S PART
OF IT BUT WITH A LIMITED AMOUNT
OF INVESTIGATORS THAT WE HAVE.
IN THOSE AREAS THEY'RE ALSO
RESPONSIBLE FOR TE REST THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA SO AS THOSE
CASES COME IN THERE'S LOTS OF
TRAVEL. AGAIN WITH ONLY SO MANY
INVESTIGATORS WE CAN ONLY WORK
SO FAST.
A TYPICALLY WHAT WE FOUND IS A
LOT EASIER JUST OCCASIONS WHEN
THEY WERE SILENT WITH THE
DIFFERENT INTO INDIVIDUAL
AGENCIES IT WAS TAKEN THEM UP TO
TWO THREE YEARS TO HANDLE
INVESTIGATION AGAIN. ONLY FOR
THEIR ACTUAL DISAPPOINT.
SO NOW ALL OF THESE
INVESTIGATORS WORKING TOGETHER
COLLABORATIVELY AND LOOKING AT
ALL THE MAXIMUM TAX.
DIFFERENT TYPE TYPES ATTACKS
CASES WORKING CLARITY AND WOOD
COLLABORATIVELY AND WE'RE
FINDING OUT THAT THESE
INVESTIGATIONS ARE TAKING CLOSER
TO A YEAR.
BUT AGAIN.
AN INVESTIGATOR HAVING A CASE
FOR A YEAR WE CAN ONLY DO SO
MUCH.
ALRIGHT CENTER BILLS YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS UNLESS BUT AREN'T
JUST ONLY A QUESTION I HAD WHEN
I LOOKED AT THIS WAS SO.
WHAT'S THE FULL AMOUNT OF MONEY
AND HOW MUCH ACTUALLY GOES BACK
TO THE STATE CAROL FUND.
AND HOW MUCH DOESN'T.
HOW HOW MUCH OF THE MONEY GOES
TO OTHER THINGS?
WELCOME. THE MAJORITY OF IT AND
WHERE IS THAT WHAT IS THAT WHAT
KIND THINGS ARE.
THINGS I USE OF WEIRD THINGS
RESTITUTION BACK TO THE
ACTUAL AGENCIES THE VICTIM
AGENCIES OKAY SO.
IS IT SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN THINGS
OR IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH A
BUDGET PROCESS.
SO IT GOES BACK TO AN AGENCY
FOR.
WHAT PURPOSE?
MY RECORD.
MY KNOWLEDGE IS IT GOES TO THE
GENERAL.
THERE'S NO MONEY OFF BUDGET.
THOSE ALL THOSE THROUGH THE
BUDGET THERE'S NO MONEY OFF
BUDGET THAT. GOES OTHER PLACES.
OF THE ACTUAL RECOVERED MONEY
YES SIR. THERE'S A SMALL
FRACTION THAT GOES TO WHAT WE
REFER TO AS A COST OF
INVESTIGATION FUND THAT'S WHEN
TALKING BOUT WHAT'S OUT HOW
MUCH MONEY IS.
I DON'T HAVE THAT FIGURE RIGHT
NOW HER PERCENT IS A TO PERCENT.
IT'S A FUN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
OF SAYING ALRIGHT HERE'S THE
TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
HOW MUCH ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO
GENERAL FUND THAT WE SEE HOW
MUCH?
DISAPPEARS INTO SITUATION.
I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS WITH
ME.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE I THINK
SETTLEMENT SOMETIMES GO TO.
YOU SEVERAL THINGS AND SOMETIMES
THEY GO TO SPECIFIC CLAIMS.
OR SPECIFIC YOU KNOW THE CITY'S
SETTLERS SENATE GOES
THE AGREEMENTS THAT THE MONEY
GOES HERE.
WELL BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE
ACTUAL RESTITUTION THE
RESTITUTION DECIDED OKAY THEM
WHERE'S THAT MONEY IS THAT OTHER
MONEY BESIDES WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT HERE.
OKAY.
I JUST WANT TO GET THE FULL
ACCOUNTING OF ALL THE MONEY.
EXCELLENT YEAH NOTIFY US REACH
IF THAT.
SOMETIMES THE MONEY GOES OTHER
PLACES THAT WE NEVER SEE RIGHT.
OKAY.
ALRIGHT SO WE ARE AUDITOR'S.
WE ARE.
POINTED TO THE NEXT ITEM.
ALRIGHT SO WE'RE GOING TO GO NOW
TO ISSUE SEVENTEEN.
WHICH IS THE.
SEXUAL ASSAULT FORENSIC EVIDENCE
TEST.
AND WE DIDTALK ABOUT THIS IS A
GOOD DEAL.
MYSTERY.
SEVEN THAT'S ME THAT SYSTEM WILL
CHANGE THAT.
COURSE I KNOW THEY'RE SHAVING
KITS TO SO WHATEVER BUT.
.
WE DID.
A.
GET INTO SOME LEVEL OF
DISCUSSION AROUND THIS.
.
IN I KNOW THAT OUR.
PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING
IS A ONE TIME AUGMENTATION.
OF SIX POINT FIVE MILLION.
AND OF COURSE IF THE.
.
IF THE.
DOJ'S IF ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT
DOJ HAD IN ITS LABS HAS ALREADY
BEEN.
FULLY TESTED FULLY RESOLVED.
ON.
THEN.
HOW WOULD WE HOW?
HOW WOULD WE DEAL WITH THAT?
EVIDENCE THAT IS ON SHELVES IN
OTHER AGENCIES THAT DON'T
NECESSARILY USE THE DOJ LAB.
A
MARY MILLER THE DIRECTOR OF THE
BUREAU TRANSIT SERVICES OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
MADAM CHAIR THE.
THE DEALING WITH THOSE CATS FROM
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WE
WORK ON A REQUEST BASIS MEANING
THAT.
THE AGENCIES THAT WE SERVE OUR
FORTY SIX OF THE FIFTY EIGHT
CALIFORNIA COUNTIES THAT DON'T
HAVE THEIR OWN CRIME LABS ARE
ACCESS TO CRIME LAB SERVICES
WITHOUT SOME SORT OF CONTRACT.
AND.
A AS WE HAD STATED BEFORE.
WE DON'T CHARGE FOR THOSE
SERVICES AND I UNDERSTAND THERE
WAS ALL FORTY SIX OF THOSE ALL
FORTY SIX OF THOSE COUNTIES THAT
DO NOT HAVE THEIR OWN CRIME LAB
THEY ARE NOT OF THEIR OWN RIGHT
YOU DO NOT CHARGE THEM. WE DO
NOT AYE I AM UNAWARE OF ANY
INVOICING MECHANISM THAT WE HAVE
THERE'S THE ONLY MECHANISM IN
PLACE IS A THERE'S A FIFTY
DOLLAR CHARGE FOR DO YOU WHY IT
WAS SET IN THE NINETIES. AND
THERE'S A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
FEE IN THE HEALTH AND SAFETY
CODE BUT THOSE ARE ALL.
BASED ON THE CURRENT CODES
AT THE GOVERNMENT CODE SET UP
THE D. ANY ID FIND.
PROVIDED THE BUREAU FRANTIC
SERVICES WITH A FUNDING SOURCE
BACK IN THE BUDGET ACT TWO
THOUSAND EIGHT I BELIEVE.
AND
WE HAVE NOT CHARGED ANY.
FEE FOR OUR SERVICE TO THOSE
FORTY SIX COUNTIES
SO IF IF THERE IS ONE I AM
COMPLETELY UNAWARE OF IT.
SO WE A FIFTY EIGHT COUNTY SO
THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S.
.
TWELVE COUNTIES THAT DO NOT USE
YOUR LAB.
AND.
THOSE TWELVE COUNTIES.
I WANT TO SAY THOSE TWELVE
COUNTY ONLY SAY THAT.
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
HAVE.
CITED THE COST.
OF.
S. DIRECTING THE DNA FROM THESE
THIS FORENSIC EVIDENCE AS A.
NEW.
ONE OF THE OBSTACLES
THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE NOT.
CLEARED THEIR BACKLOGS.
NOW IT WOULD SURPRISE ME I
THINK.
AND THIS IS WHERE OUR PREVIOUS
DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S
A BACKLOG OR NOT.
THIS DOJ NO.
WITHOUT REVERSING CONFIDENCE
THAT BEEF FORTY.
COUNTIES FORTY SIX COUNTIES THAT
YOU MENTIONED HAVE ALL ALL THEIR
AGENCIES HAVE SUBMITTED.
ALL.
SEXUAL ASSAULT FORENSIC
EVIDENCE
NO MA'AM.
SO. SO THERE COULD BE.
THEN.
STILL BACKLOG.
FROM THE TIME THAT WE
IMPLEMENTED THE RAPID DE AND
SERVICE.
A I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AN
ASSUMPTION BUT FROM THE TIME WE
IMPLEMENT A SERVICE BECAUSE
BECAUSE IT COMES FROM THE.
EXAMINATION THAT IS HAPPENING
AT THE HOSPITAL THE COUNTIES
THAT HAVE THAT SERVICE.
THAT IMPLEMENTED.
WE MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT
THEY'RE COMING STRAIGHT FROM THE
EXAMINATIONS SO WE SHOULD HAVE
AN ACCURATE COUNT OF THOSE
COUNTY.
WE DO HAVE SOME COUNTIES THAT
ARE NOT PART OF THE RAPID IN A
SERVICES YET.
SO IS ONE OF THE ISSUES.
THAT.
WE MIGHT NEED TO DIFFERENT.
FRANCE IT LEVELS A FORENSIC
TESTING ONE JUST TO EXTRACT THE
DNA IN ANOTHER IF WE IF THE CASE
GOES TO PROSECUTION.
I DON'T BELIEVE SO BECAUSE I
WHEN WE RECEIVE THE EVIDENCE
FROM A SEXUAL ASSAULT IT IS
TESTED IN A MANNER THAT WE TEST
ANY OTHER EVIDENCE WHICH TAKES
US TO THE POINT OF BEING READY
FOR OUR ANALYSTS TO GO TO COURT
AND TESTIFY TO THAT CASE.
IT'S BOUND.
BUT DO THE SAME PROCESSES ANY
OTHER VIOLENT CRIME THAT WE
TEST.
SO FOR BUT FOUR THE BUREAU OF
FORENSIC SERVICES THOSE FORTY
SIX COUNTIES IN THE ONES THAT WE
SERVE THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE
DON'T OCCASIONALLY GET EVIDENCE
FROM SOME OF THE COUNTIES THAT
HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR OWN
FORENSIC LAB. BUT IT IS RARE BUT
WE STILL DO NOT CHARGE FOR IT.
RIGHT AT THIS POINT.
OKAY.
PLAN. AHEAD OKAY THAT LIKE OKAY
GOV FORTY SIX YEAH YOU'RE
DEALING WITH COUNTY.
I'D I I DON'T DO ACCOUNTABLE YOU
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES RIGHT.
SO SO YOU HAVE ALL THESE LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT HAVE.
RAPE EVIDENCE OF MATERIAL OKAY.
SO.
.
WHAT DO THEY IS IT'S NOT COUNTY
BY COUNTY?
THE THE THE COUNTIES DON'T.
COLLECTED THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES HAVE THE EVIDENCE
RIGHT.
ON THE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE
MAY COLLECTED FOR THE COUNT
BUT A LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENT OF HIS OF IF THE CITY
POLICE DEPARTMENT. COULD BE
HAVING OF IT HAVE EVIDENCE
RIGHT.
BECAUSE HOW ABOUT STATE
AGENCIES.
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
FOR INSTANCE.
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS.
WE HEARD THAT WE GOT HIGHWAY
PATROL LEGAL THESE LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
THEY HAVE TO THEY HAVE EVIDENCE.
GENERALLY IF THEY'RE A PART OF.
A LOCUSTS EACH PIECE A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENT IN THAT MANY TIMES
THEY'RE INVESTIGATING CRIMES FOR
THE LOCALS BUT YES THEY THEY
SHOULD HAVE EVIDENCE FULTZ
RELATED TO THEM AS WELL SO THEY
HAVE THEIR HEAD THEY COLLECT
EVIDENCE SO. IS THERE A WAY TO
TURN IN WORK WHO WHO AND WHERE
ANY KIND OF. A COMPREHENSIVE.
WAY OF DETERMINING HOW WHO AND
WHERE ANY KIND OF BACKLOG.
IS AND WHICH AGENCIES.
AND WORD EXIST IS THAT POSSIBLE.
AND I AM OF YOU HAVE THAT
INFORMATION WE DO NOT HAVE THAT
IF.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO
ACHIEVE WITH SAFETY BUT AGAIN
THAT'S A LOOK FORWARD.
IT'S NOT THE LOOK BACK THAT
WE'RE DISCHIAVE AND SO SO LIKE.
.
THE LAW THAT WAS PASSED IN TWO
THOUSAND AND FOURTEEN OKAY.
SAYS.
.
TWENTY DAYS AND SHOULD PROCESS
THE EVIDENCE AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE.
BUT NO LATER THAN A HUNDRED
TWENTY DAYS FOLLOWING THE
RECEIPT OF EVIDENCE.
OKAY SO WHO DETERMINES WHETHER
OR NOT.
THAT LAWS THE ACTUALLY BEING
FILE FOLLOWED BY ALL THESE
VARIOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES.
THERE IS NO DETERMINATION.
NOBODY NOBODY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
DETERMINING.
.
WHETHER OR NOT THAT LAWS
ACTUALLY BE FOLLOWED AT THIS
POINT CORRECT WRECKED THIS.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE DOES ITS
OWN AUDITING ON WHETHER OR NOT
WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT SO YOU GOT
ALL THESE LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES EVERYBODY'S DOING
SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
WITH THE EVIDENCE.
CORRECT AT SOME HAVE REALLY GOOD
FORENSIC LABS OTHERS DON'T. IF
THE DOG WHAT DO THE DO AT THAT
POINT.
THEY CAN GO TO YOU WHAT OF THEIR
OTHER OPTIONS.
WELL I DON'T SPEAK FOR.
LOCAL LAN FORSMAN
COMES TO THEIR THEIR PROCESS A
DO SAYS HE WOULD OTHER OPTIONS
THE OPTIONS ARE THAT THEY CAN
CONTRACT WITH A PRIVATE ENTITY
INGLENOOK PRIVATE ENTITY AND PAY
SOME OF SOME MONEY TO DO IT.
THEN THEY GO TO.
MOTHER COUNTY FORENSIC LAB YES
THEY COULD THEY COULD FORM IN M.
O. YOU
OR A MEMBER.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DO IN MY
COUNTY THEY HAVE.
WE HAVE A LASSEN I DO BEFORE I
LEFT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
WE.
BUILT THIS.
BEAUTIFUL NEW FORENSIC LAB IN
SANTA CLERK IN SAN JOSE RIGHT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THE STATE OF THE ART YOU KNOW
KIND OF.
THAT WAS THE LAST THING I DID
BEFORE I LEFT I LEFT MY TERM ON
THE BOARD. AND THEN ALL THE
OTHER COUNTIES AROUND US STARTED
SAYING ó WE'RE GONNA CENTER
STUFF OVER YOU GUYS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF MOTHER SHIP
APPROACH.
OF FROM THE BIG COUNTIES YOU
KNOW THERE MAY BE OTHER COUNTIES
AROUND HIM.
AND THEN.
.
WHAT'S THE CONDITION THE STATUS
OF YOUR FRIENDS OR THE OF
FACILITIES.
OUR ARE FORENSIC FACILITIES WE
HAVE.
I'M I'M GONNA SPEAK ONLY TO FOR
TESTING SEXUAL ASSAULT YEAH YEAH
PLEASE SHALL WE HAVE A
SEVENTY IN A LABORATORIES. IN
THE STATE
THE LARGEST IS IN RICHMOND.
AND THAT IS OUR JAN PERSON SKI.
DNA LABORATORY OKAY THE.
STATE OF THOSE LABORATORIES
VARIES SOME OF THEM ARE NEWER
BUT.
THE RICHMOND FACILITY IT'S A
LEAST FACILITY IT'S NOT STATE
OWNED AND SO IT.
DEFINITELY IS ONE OF THE NEWER
FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE AS FAR
AS UPKEEP.
BUT FRANCES ARE SACRAMENTO
FACILITY IS IS.
VERY OLD IF IT EXISTS OVER AT
THE.
FORTY NINE FORTY NINE BROADWAY
SITE WITH JOE.
IS.
I THINK IT WAS BUILT.
OF TIME IN THE EIGHTIES IT'S
IT'S
BUT THE EQUIPMENT AND THE
TECHNOLOGY IS SO. EQUIPMENT
TECHNOLOGY IS UP TO DATE.
THOUGH FOR THE MOST PART I MEAN
WE HAVE SOME SOME FUTURE
FORWARD.
INSTRUMENTATION FOR.
.
MORE RAPID DELIVERY THAT WE'RE
INVESTIGATING
BUT MOST OF THAT HAS BEEN KEPT
UP THROUGH THE GRANT PROCESS.
SO MADAM MADAM CHAIR I THINK DO
OF THE OF. THE ISSUE IS TO GET A
REAL HANDLE ON THEM.
NUMBER FOR BACKLOG YOU KNOW LIKE
SOME.
CUT NUMBER OF.
IS THERE SOME THAT MIGHT BE EASY
TO DO OR WHAT HELD DIFFICULT
WITH THAT.
FOR A LOCAL BACKLOG YEAH JUST A
COMPREHENSIVE BACKLOG NUMBER FOR
THE STATE CALIFORNIA FOR ALL
AGENCIES IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THERE'S SOMEBODY CAN GO OUT AND.
FIND OUT HOW. WHAT KIND OF
BACKLOGS IS SO WE CAN GET A?
WE COULD START DUO TRYING TO GET
TO ZERO.
THIS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THE REASON I'M AND I'M SAYING
THAT IS THE LAW WAS PASSED IN
TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN CERTAINLY.
GAVE THE STANDARD AND THEN
THERE'S ALSO A.
.
US DEPARTMENT OF JOB BUREAU
JUSTICE ASSISTANCE.
.
STANDARD OR SOME FEDERAL
STANDARDS LE WE HAVE ALL THE
STATE LAW THAT WAS PASSED.
SO OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO MAKE
SURE THE STATE LAWS EMPLOYMENT
ALEC.
SO. SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS.
MAYBE GET AN ASSESSMENT OF.
WHERE WE WHAT OUR CURRENT STATUS
IS IN AND?
I GUESS THE NEXT STEP IS TO
FIGURE OUT THE QUICKEST WAY
WEAKENED.
DO THIS.
.
WORKING WITH OUR.
COUNTY PARTNERS AND OTHER
PARTNERS THAT WE CAN HAVE IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
IS THAT IS THAT POSSIBLE.
I THINK IT'S A TASK
I THINK IT'S A TOUGH JOB GOOD.
TO SIT DOWN AND.
MARS IS THAT SOMEDAY WE
CONFIGURE OUT MAYBE IT WITH THE
HELP OF DALY OVER.
OTHERS DO TOO.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE
DONE OBVIOUSLY.
AS WE HAVE YOU KNOW THEY MIGHT
WE MIGHT BE SURPRISED AT WHAT
THE FACTS. WERE I DON'T YEAH
YEAH I DON'T KNOW IF IT DOESN'T
WE DON'T. HAVE THE INFORMATION
RIGHT.
AND MAYBE SOMEBODY DOES BUT I I
DON'T SEE IF YOU'RE.
TWENTY FOURTEEN BILL ORIGINALLY
HAD IN IT.
ON THE OFF.
ORIGINALLY HAD IN IT THAT THE
LOCAL AGENCIES IF THEY DIDN'T
MEET THE TIMELINES HAD TO SUBMIT
TO DOJ.
NO WHAT THEY STILL HAD NOT.
TESTED AND WHY.
BUT I THINK THAT GOT STRUCK.
BECAUSE OF BEGAN THE LOCAL
MANDATE THAT AND THAT SOMEHOW
THAT COST WOULD BE BORNE BY THE
STATE.
BUT I'M GONNA GO BACK TO ONE WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT COUNTIES AND.
NO CHARGE.
SO. ARE YOU REFERRING THAN TO
ONLY A SEXUAL ASSAULT THAT
OCCURS WITHIN A COUNTIES
JURISDICTION AND NOT ALL OF THE
CITIES ARE YOU REFERRING SO IN
OTHER WORDS. COUNTY
JURISDICTIONS WHEN YOU LOOK
STATEWIDE IS REALLY NOT A LOT OF
POPULATION MOST THE
UNINCORPORATED AREAS IS WHERE
THE COUNTIES HAVE JURISDICTION
IT'S THE INCORPORATED AREAS ARE
THAT A CITY'S JURISDICTION. VAST
MAJORITY POPULATION IMPROV AND
THE VAST MAJORITY OF SEXUAL
ASSAULTS
SO. SO WHEN YOUR FRIEND COUNTIES
ARE YOU REFERRING ONLY. TO.
AND ASSAULT IN THEIR
JURISDICTION NOT TO THIS CITIES
THAT ARE WITHIN THE OF THE.
GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF THE COUNTY.
AND I REFER TO THE COUNTY.
THAT WE SERVICE
THE BUREAU FROM SIX SERVICES I'M
REFERRING TO THAT COUNTY AND THE
POPULACE WITHIN IT INCLUDING AND
ALL THAT CITY HALL ON FOUND
PICTURES.
OKAY SO IT'S.
AT LEAST IN THE DEBATES AROUND
THESE BILLS IN THE PAST THERE'S
BEEN A LOT OF.
.
I CAN'T SAY ACCURATE OR
INACCURATE ALL I CAN SAY IS.
INDICATION THAT.
THERE'S A COST.
OR. THIS EVIDENCE AND THAT THE
COST OF THE STATE LAB IS LESS.
THAN MOST OF THE LOCAL LAPSED
THEIR COSTS FOR PROCESSING IS
HIGHER.
BUT THAT EVEN THE COST FOR THE
STATE LAB WHILE IT'S LOWER. IS
STILL A BURDEN TO THE LOCALITY
FOR.
PURSUING GETTING THIS EVIDENCE
TESTED.
THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT'S BEEN
DESCRIBED SO.
AGAIN YES MANAGER AND I CAN'T
SPEAK TO THAT OTHER THAN.
IF FOR SOME REASON THE BUREAU
DID CHARGE THEM MAYBE THAT WOULD
BE THE%
HI REASON THAT THEY WOULD.
SAY THAT THAT WAS A PROBLEM BUT
WE DO NOT A LARGER LOCAL
AGENCIES THAT WE SERVICE IN
THOSE FORTY SIX COUNTIES AT THIS
POINT.
SO I A.
SENATOR BILL THAT'S THE CASE
THEN THERE SHOULD ONLY BE. EIGHT
COUNTIES WITH ANY TYPE OF
JUSTIFIED WHAT WOULD YOU CALL IT
JUSTIFIABLE WHAT WHATEVER BACK
LIKE.
IN YET THE INDICATION FROM.
SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS SEEM
SPEAK FAR GREATER SO WE ARE SHE
LOOKED TWELVE LARGEST COUNTY
USES WHAT.
SO I FIVE EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE
STATE'S POPULATION.
YES WELL LARGEST COUNTY. RIGHT.
PROBABLY MOST THE BIG COUNTIES
HAVE LABS OUT OF THEY'LL HAVE
LIMBS.
SO SO THE BIG COUNTIES HAVE LABS
IN THE SMALL ONES TONES CUT IT
WOULD RAIN MONETARY GREAT GREAT.
MAYBE SOME EXCEPTIONS I DON'T
KNOW BUT PROBABLY NOT.
MOST THE BIG COUNTY LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE.
LABS OF VARYING VARYING LEVELS
RIGHT QUALITY.
I DON'T KNOW.
SO THE QUESTION IS WHERE IS ALL
THIS BACKLOG THAT EXIST WHAT'S
HAPPENED.
IT'S IS A BY NO AND ARRIVAL.
HOW DO WE GET A HANDLE ON THAT?
WE DON'T HAVE THE.
INFORMATION.
ALRIGHT WE WANT ELIMINATE THE
BACK LOS ANGELES WOULD YOU TRY
TO DO WITH THE LEGISLATION AND
THEN RIGHT AND YOU KNOW WE WANT
TO GET THAT DINOSAUR WE SOMEHOW.
PUT A MANDATE WANT TO BE ABLE
TO.
.
ACCURATELY TEST
THEN THE CAR.
IT'S FAIR TO DO THAT.
THERE MIGHT BE A ONE TIME COST.
COULD BE JUST LIKE OKAY WE GET
RID OF THE BACKLOG OWN.
SENATOR STATE WHERE.
RIGHT FROM THE LEON.
FIND THE CRIMINALS.
OKAY.
BERMAN JAIL.
WE READY MOVE ON.
SO THAT'S WHO IT COULD HAVE JUST
SO. FINISH YES THAT COULD YOU
COULD YOU GET BACK MAY BE
WORKING WITH.
DOES ON THAT INFORMATION.
IF IT'S.
POSSIBLE FTA. YOU HAVE ANY SENSE
OF NUMBERS IN TERMS OF ROADS AND
TOWNS THAT DON'T USE YOUR LAB.
SINCE ALL THE REST WE SHOULD
HOPE.
DON'T THOUGH THEY MAY ANYWAY
BUT.
.
WHAT NUMBER WE MAY BE DOING WITH
THAT HASN'T BEEN?
?
HAS HAS A FORENSIC EVIDENCE HAS
BEEN TESTED.
AND WHAT IF THERE WERE ACTION BY
THE STATE
TO HAD IT TESTED BY THE STATE
LAB.
WHAT THAT MIGHT COST US?
YEAH.
THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT WE ARE NOW GOING TO
SWITCH OUT.
OF THE COPAYS AND SOUNDS A THE.
.
THAT THE MODERN EQUIPMENT.
IT CAUGHT THE GUY.
YES WILL WE AFTER TWENTY FIVE
YEARS WE CAUGHT A GUY TO UNITE
IN.
ALAMEDA CONTRA COSTA COUNTY BUT
IT WAS AFTER YOU HAD ALREADY
RATE TYPE THINGS.
FOUR FIVE WOMEN AND MURDERED A
WOMAN INTELLIGENCE WILL.
LUCAS
YEAH ALRIGHT SO WE'RE GOING TO
THE JUDICIAL BRANCH NOW.
AND LET ME SEE.
THERE ARE.
OF MONEY PRESIDING JUDGE RATE
LOOSE YES.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FIRST
FROM OUR.
HE ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTOR OF
OUR.
CHIEF JUSTICE OFFICE
MARTIN HOSHINO AND JUDGE
PATRICIA LUCAS FROM SANTA CLARA
SUPREME SUPERIOR COURT.
TO TALK ABOUT THE CHIEF
JUSTICE'S BUDGET PRIORITIES.
CORRECT TO SAY.
IN INFORMATION.
GRETA MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF
PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU CAN
THIS AFTERNOON I AM MARCIN
HERSHEY ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE
DIRECTOR FOR THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA AND FOR
CALIFORNIA'S CHIEF JUSTICE I AM
AS YOU IDENTIFY JOINED BY.
THE JUDGE LUCAS FROM THE SANTA
CLARA.
SUPERIOR COURT SHE'S THE
PRESIDING JUDGE THERE BUT ALSO
AS IMPORTANTLY SHE IS THE CHAIR
OF THE COUNCIL'S TRIAL COURT
BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND
IN THAT RESPECT ESSENTIALLY SHE
SPEAKS FOR ALL FIFTY EIGHT.
JUDGES TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT
IS POSSIBLE.
ACTUALLY THINK YOU.
TROUT
CITING JUDGES.
EXCUSE ME THE TRIAL COURT
PRESIDING JUDGES ADVISORY
COMMITTEE WHICH IS ONE OF THE
COMMITTEES IN THE COUNCIL.
I MEAN I ABBREVIATE AND TRUNCATE
OF MY COMMENTS TO THIS MORNING
TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM.
I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD START BY.
IS AS.
STRANGE THAT MAY SOUND JUST
BRIEFLY DEFINING THE COUNCIL
BECAUSE IT'S TALKED ABOUT A LOT
IN THE MATERIALS AND I THINK
IT'LL BE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE
DISCUSSION HERE. THE IN THE VERY
SHORT VERSION OF WHAT THE
JUDICIAL COUNCIL IS IS IT IS
ACTUALLY A VERY LARGE STE
SIMILAR TO A LARGE CITY COUNCIL
A LARGE BORDER SUPERVISORS. OR
MANY LEGISLATURE IN THAT IT HAS
A LOT OF SUBCOMMITTEES THAT
INFORMS ITS WORK. I THINK WHAT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE IS.
NOT COMING BACK WRIGHT.
BECAUSE HE'S NOT COMING BACK
CONVERGENCE.
UNDERSTOOD THAT THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL HAS TWENTY ONE VOTING
MEMBERS TEN OF WHICH ARE TRIAL
COURT MEMBERS TWO OF WHICH ARE
MEMBERS OF THE STATE
LEGISLATURE.
IN FOUR OF US FROM THE STATE
BAR.
AND THREE FROM THE GUY JUSTICES
FROM THE COURT OF APPEAL AND ONE
MEMBER FROM THE US SUPREME COURT
IT ALSO HAS EIGHT ADVISORY. OF
MEMBERS ON IT FELL EIGHT OF
WHICH ARE OR. ARM THE FROM THE
TRIAL COURT'S THEMSELVES AND SO
I MAKE THIS POINT TO YOU AS WE
GET TO HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS
ABOUT BUDGET. TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ABOUT
THIRTY VOICES ON IT EIGHTEEN OF
WHICH BELONG TO OUR TRIAL
COURTS.
A WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT I WILL
GET INTO HERE BECAUSE. THE
BUDGET PROPOSAL AS REFLECTED
HERE IS ACTUALLY AN AMALGAM OR
WHAT I WOULD CALL A COLLECTIVE
CONSENSUS OF WHAT IS THE CHIEF
TOP PRIORITY AS WELL AS THE
COUNCIL'S TOP PRIORITY. AS WELL
AS A PRIORITY OF ALL OF OUR ART
A TRIAL COURT IN ITS NAMELY
THIS.
THAT THERE'S APPROXIMATELY A
HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE MILLION
DOLLARS OF DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS
BETTER PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET
THAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN UP BY
YOUR STAFF AND I'M COMBINING THE
FORTY EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS WITH
THE SEVENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS
THAT ARE LISTED THERE IN THE
STAFF RIGHT UP. AND THAT TOP
PRIORITY IS THAT THAT MONEY.
GO TO OUR TRIAL COURTS THE IN
THE FASHION THAT IS
DISCRETIONARY NATURE OWING TO
THE VARIATION OF NEEDS THAT
EXIST. IN OUR TRIAL COURTS ARE
BASED ON THE THEORY NEEDS TO
REINVEST NEW DOLLARS BUT ALSO TO
RESTORE FUNDING. OF THAT WAS
PART OF THE REDUCTIONS IN
THEY'VE MADE DIFFERENT DECISIONS
OUT THERE BUT WE TO WHAT THEY
FELT MADE SENSE FOR THEIR
PARTICULAR COMMUNITIES.
UP AND THE PROPOSAL HAS TO
SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT I THAT I
WANT TO REFERENCE HERE WHICH IS
THE FORTY EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS
WHICH WILL FURTHER EQUALIZE.
FUNDING AMONG OUR TRIAL COURTS
IN IT LIKELY BENEFITS WHATWE
ESTIMATE TO BE ABOUT THIRTY FOR.
ALL OF THE TRIAL COURTS AND I IN
OUR SYSTEM AND THE SECOND POINT
IS THE SEVENTY FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS WILL ACTUALLY BENEFIT.
ALL FIFTY EIGHT COURTS AGAIN AND
TO ADDRESS THEIR NEEDS UP FOR
THE VARIOUS OUTCOMES AND SO YOU
MIGHT WONDER AND THE QUESTION.
IS COMING UP ABOUT WATER THOSE
PRIORITIES WHAT ARE THE
EXPECTATIONS WHAT COULD YOU WAS
A LEGISLATURE EXPECT IN TERMS OF
OUTCOMES FOR THINGS LIKE THIS.
AND I THINK IT'S REFLECTED IN A
LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL
ALREADY COLLECTIVELY HEARD OVER
TIME WHICH IS.
CLOSED COURTROOMS SHORTENED
HOURS A THINGS THAT REDUCE
ACCESS OF FOROUR COURT USERS. I
WOULD POINT YOU BACK TO THE
CHIEF JUSTICE'S COMMENTS I IN
HER STATE OF THE JUDICIARY
SPEECH TO YOU ALL LAST MONTH. OF
WHERE SHE TALKED ABOUT GETTING
BACK TO COR CUSTOMER SERVICE A
AND SHE PUT A LIST OF THINGS OUT
THERE THAT YOU COULD POINT TO
AND REFERENCE. IN ADDITION TO
WHICH WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
SOMETHING THAT WE CALLED OUR
BUDGET SNAPSHOTS THAT REFLECT
OTHER NEEDS IN THE VARIOUS
STATES OF THE COURTS ARE BEFORE
YOU WERE AT LEAST WITH YOUR
STAFF MEMBERS. A AND THAT'S
SOMETHING TO POINT TO AND I
WOULD LIKE TO STOP TALKING NOW
AND ACTUALLY.
IF YOU THEIR PERMISSION INVITE
A JUDGE LUCAS TO MAYBE SHARE HER
VIEWS FELL ON THE PROPOSAL.
GO AHEAD AT THANK YOU.
AND GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
SENATOR BELTS A PLEASURE TO BE
HERE ON BEHALF OF MY CORD AND OF
THE FIFTY SEVEN. A COLLEAGUES
THERE'D PRESIDING JUDGES ACROSS
THE STATE I COMMEND TO YOU THOSE
BUDGET SNAPSHOTS THEY'VE BEEN
THOUGHTFULLY PREPARED IN THE
ADDRESS.
SPECIFICALLY THE QUESTION OF
WHAT WOULD EACH OF THE FIFTY
EIGHT COURTS TO DO IF WE GOT THE
ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT'S AT
STAKE.
SO AS AS MR NISHINO MENTIONS.
EACH OF THE TRIAL COURT'S DURING
THE YEARS OF BUDGET CUTS.
DEALT WITH THOSE SHORTFALLS IN
DIFFERENT WAYS BASED ON.
ALTERNATIVE RESOURCES AVAILABLE
IN OUR COMMUNITY. A LOCAL
CULTURE AND OF LOCAL PRIORITIES.
SO OF WITH THAT DECONSTRUCTION
HAVING HAPPENED IN FIFTY
DIFFERENT WAYS THE REBUILDING.
ESSENTIALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN
FIFTY EIGHT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
WAYS CERTAINLY THEIR THEMES.
A MOST OF THE COURTS HAVE CUT
ACCESS TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS
SHORTENED HOURS HAVE ELIMINATED
DAYS.
OF.
SERVICES HAVE BEEN CONSOLIDATED
WHICH MEANS THAT IT'S A. GREAT
HARDSHIP FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO
TAKE THE BUS TO GET TO COURT.
I AND THEY MAY GET ALL THE WAY
THERE AND FIND OUT THAT THE.
THE SERVICES ARE NOT AVAILABLE
THAT DAY BECAUSE OF THE.
SHORTAGES.
SO THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT
WAYS IN WHICH THE COURTS HAVE
DEALT WITH IT.
AND OF FOR THAT REASON.
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL WHICH
GIVES THE COURTS THE DISCRETION
A REBUILD IN THE WAY THAT MAKES
SENSE MOST SENSE FOR THE LOCAL
COMMUNITY.
IS WE THINK THE BEST APPROACH.
I IMAGINE CENTER BILLION MAY
HAVE SOME QUESTIONS BUT I WANTED
TO FIRST.
SO I THINK IT I'VE ITS MY
IMPRESSION FROM MY COLLEAGUES IN
LEGISLATURE THAT THE. THAT. WE
HAVE BEEN WANTING TO INCREASE
THE FUNDING TO THE TRIAL COURT'S
FOR SOMETIME. AND. VARIOUS OTHER
BUDGET PRESSURES AND SUCH OF.
AND AND GOVERNOR'S.
THE GOVERNOR HAVING SOME
DIFFERENT APPROACHES AT TIMES.
BUT NOW WE'RE IN A SITUATION
WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION IS OUT.
RECOMMENDING A THIS INCREASED
ALLOCATION TO THE TRIAL COURT'S.
I THINK THE QUESTION IS.
WHETHER. THE OUTSIDE THE WAY
THE.
BCP IS STRUCTURED IT WOULD GIVE
THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL THE FULL
DISCRETION.
AND.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT ALL TRIAL
COURTS WOULD GET AT YOU KNOW
HOW.
IT DOESN'T EVEN REQUIRE SKEWS
ME.
I SHOULD SAY DOESN'T EVEN I
SHOULD JUST SAY IT ISN'T
SPECIFIC TO REQUIRE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL FOR EXAMPLE TO HAVE TO
USE THE WORKLOAD ALLOCATION
METHOD AS THE BASIS FOR ITS
DISTRIBUTION.
OR GIVE OTHER CRITERIA
BASICALLY LEAVES IT UP TO THE
JUDICIAL COUNCIL.
SO I'D LIKE TO YEAR AND YOUR
RESPONSES TO WHY. THAT IS THE
BEST APPROACH.
CERTAINLY I'LL GO FIRST RM IN
IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION AS
THE ALLOCATION OF THE DOLLARS IS
SOMETHING ACTUALLY THE COUNCIL
DOES A VERY GOOD JOB OF. IT DOES
A GOOD JOB BECAUSE IT IS VERY
WELL INFORMED UP BY THE INPUT A
COLLECTIVELY FROM THE TRIAL
COURT'S THEMSELVES AND SO.
THAT'S WHY SPEND SOMETIME
ACTUALLY DEFINING THE COUNCIL IN
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY
MAKING THE DECISIONS AND WHERE
THEY'RE FROM AND THE COMMITTEE
PROCESS THAT WE HAVE SO BY THE
TIME IT COMES TO THE COUNCIL.
THERE'S ACTUALLY NOT A LOT OF
DIFFERENCE AND I THINK THAT
MIGHT SURPRISE PEOPLE BETWEEN
WHAT LOCAL TRIAL COURTS THINK
THEY SHOULD DO WITH IT. AND WHAT
THE TROT WHAT THE AT JUDICIAL
COUNCIL ACTUALLY DECIDES AND SO
WE HAVE TO LOWER COMMITTEES.
ALWAYS THE FEEDBACK WE LIKE I
KNOW YOU DON'T USUALLY HEAR
THAT.
AND AND I I AM IF I COULD FOR A
MOMENT. I THINK WE ALL LEARNED
AT LEAST OF THE LEGISLATURE
HEARD A LOT ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR
BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE FIFTH AND
FINAL YEAR OF WHAT WE CALL AN
EQUALIZING FUNDING FORMULA. IT
WAS A REALLY HARD YEAR IN FACT
WERE IN IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT
WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE DID
IT WOULD ABSENT NEW FUNDING.
AND SO IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT
ARE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT BUT
THE COMMITMENT WAS MADE IN
AGAIN.
THAT FUNDING FORMULA WAS
ACTUALLY A VERY ORGANICALLY
DEVELOP THING FROM THE TRIAL
COURT'S
AND SO IT IS WITH WHATEVER NEXT
DECISION THE COUNCIL MAKE. ITS
VERY ORGANICALLY DRIVEN INFORMED
THERE IS WHAT WE CALL THE TRIAL
COURT BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WHICH IS THE COMMITTEE THAT
ULTIMATELY MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS
TO THE COUNCIL THAT COMMITTEE IS
COMPRISED OF FIFTEEN. A TRIAL
COURT JUDGES AND FIFTEEN TRIAL
COURT EXECUTIVE OFFICERS AND SO
THAT THE INFORMATION AND THAT
INPUT IN ANALYSIS IS
EXCEPTIONALLY IMPORTANT AND
THEY'RE ALSO JOINED BY OTHER
SUBCOMMITTEES THAT EXISTS.
THAT ARE ALSO COMPOSED OF
MEMBERS OF TRIAL COURTS AS THESE
FORMULAS GET PUT TOGETHER AND
SO.
I STARTED SPEND TIME DWELLING ON
THAT PROCESS BUT I THINK IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT INFORMS YOU ON
HOW I THINK YOU CAN. HAVE SOME
RELIABILITY THAT THE PRIORITIES
DO LINE UP IN TERMS OF THE CHIEF
THE COUNCIL AND THE TRIAL COURTS
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING IT I THINK
DOING IT QUITE WELL. OF FOR SOME
TIME EVEN THOUGH YES THERE WAS.
A VERY DIFFICULT YEAR IN SOME
DISAGREEMENT THAT I KNOW THAT
YOU ALL ARE WHERE YOU HEARD OF
AND I THINK SOME OF OUR
PRIORITIES ARE REALLY THE SAME
AS YOURS BECAUSE. WE HEAR THE
SAME CONCERNS AND THE SAME
ISSUES ARE NOW GIVE JUDGE WITH
IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT
ISSUE WAS SO WELLTHANK YOU
THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT THE
JEWISH COUNCIL HAS JUST A WEALTH
OF INFORMATION DIRECTLY FROM THE
TRIAL COURT. THAT TRIAL COURT
BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS
ANOTHER COMMITTEE ON WHICH I
ALSO SAID. AND THAT TAKES IN THE
INFORMATION FROM OF THE
PRESIDING JUDGES IN THE COURT
EXECUTIVES WHO ARE IN THE
BUSINESS OF.
I DEALING WITH THE THE DOLLARS
THAT WE HAVE MAKING THE
DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY GO
AND UNDERSTAND DEEPLY. OUT WHAT
NEEDS TO BE DONE TO REBUILD SO I
THINK THAT'S THAT'S THE KEY.
OKAY.
SO. I'M GONNA EN TURNED IT ILIO
AND WHAT I'D LIKE FROM THE LA
JOH. IS FOR YOU TO EXPLAIN THE
RECOMMENDATION RATHER THAN THE
A.
BACKGROUND.
NO. MORE WHAT YOUR WHAT THE LA
DOES
PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION IS THE
LEGISLATURE REGARDING.
EARLY.
ANY DAILY WITH THE LEGISLATIVE
ANALYST'S OFFICE STILL WE ARE
RECOMMENDING THAT THE
LEGISLATURE JUST CONSIDER IN
TOTAL HOW MUCH FUNDING THEY'D
LIKE TO PROVIDE TO THE JUDICIAL
BRANCH. PROVIDED SPECIFICALLY
BASED ON LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES
RATHER THAN ALLOWING JUDICIAL
COUNCILS TO MAKE THE DECISION.
AND SO IN RELATION TO THE
SEVENTY FIVE MILLION.
YOU KIND OF HAVE DIFFERENT
APPROACHES MADAM CHAIR YOU
REFERENCED ONE WITCHES IF IT
GOES OUT ON WAFA MAY GO STRAIGHT
TO THE TRIAL COURT'S AND THAT'S
DISCRETIONARY.
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL MAKES
REFERENCE OR RECOMMENDS USING
THE DOLLARS TO IMPLEMENT
FEATURES COMMISSION'S
RECOMMENDATIONS
AND SO WE AWAY EN ON KIND OF THE
MERITS OF.
THE COMMISSION'S
RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE COSTS WE DON'T
HAVE BENEFITS FOR THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS AND SO THAT
COULD WIND DICTATE HOW MUCH
MONEY GOES TO TRIAL COURTS BUT
IT COULD ALSO THEN LIMITS WHAT
THOSE DOLLARS HAVE TO BE USED
FOR. THE FINAL PIECE OF THAT IS
THE LEGISLATURE MAY ACTUALLY
WANT TO WEIGH IN ON HOW SOME OF
THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE
IMPLEMENTED AND HOW THEY'RE
MOVED FORWARD.
.
IN TERMS OF THE FOR THE OTHER
MONIES THAT WAS REFERENCE TO
TERMS EQUALIZATION THE FORTY
SEVEN POINT EIGHT MILLION. THEIR
DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO
EQUALIZATION AND I THINK VERY
SIMILARLY TO THE EXTENT THAT
THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR THE
LEGISLATURE.
WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE
LEGISLATURE JUST TO FIND HOW
THEY WOULD LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN.
WHEN.
WELL.
.
FOR BOTH VIEW OF GEORGE LUCAS LE
THANKS FOR TAKING ME ON A TOUR
OF THE COURT FACILITIES IN OUR
COUNTY.
ONE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO
ASK YOU.
.
BOTH IS.
.
THE ISSUE OF PHAM.
THE CASE AUTOMATED CASE
MANAGEMENT THAT YOU WERE TRYING
THAT WERE.
TEMPTING. CAN YOU GIVE US SAW.
THEN ONE NIGHT WHEN I THOUGHT
WHEN I HEARD THAT ORIGINALLY I
THOUGHT WELL THAT'S GOING TO.
MAKE THE COURTS MORE FISH A
LITTLE.
STREAMLINED.
A LOT OF THINGS IN TERMS OF
PROCEDURES STAFF AND SO FORTH
WACO.
EFFICIENCIES BUT THOUGH IN
GENERAL.
.
MADAM CHAIR GIVING THE.
DISCRETION.
TO.
.
BOB YOU KNOW. DEPENDING ON WHAT
KIND OF LEVEL DISCRETION WANT TO
GIVE.
OF THIS SEEMS LIKE.
.
THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THE WE
SHOULD CONSIDER THAT.
WE SHOULD ALSO.
GIVE THEM RESPONSIBILITIES.
IT TEARS OF BEING EFFICIENT.
AND DEVELOP EFFICIENCIES.
LOOK AT.
NEW TECHNOLOGIES NEW IDEAS NEW
WAYS OF DOING THINGS I NOTICE
YOU HAVE.
A COUPLE OVER HERE ON ONE OF
THEM WAS THE AYE THE CASE
MANAGEMENT. AND THEN THE OTHER
ON I NOTICE WAS SERVICE SELF
HELP.
KIND OF THING COULD YOU TALK
ABOUT.
THOSE.
THOSE THINGS AND HOW THEY WOULD
HELP.
GENERALLY ALL THE COURTS IN
STATE BECOME.
MORE FISH IS WHAT THE STATUS OF
THOSE.
TWO IDEAS ARE AND AND ARE THERE
OTHER.
IDEAS THAT ARE BECOMING.
TO THE FOR IN TERMS OF.
.
DEFICIENCIES AND SO FORTH SO. IS
CERTAIN THAT'S THE QUESTION SO
IN AND TAKE THE FIRST
OPPORTUNITY RESPOND WITHIN THE
FIRST ONE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE ALL OPERATING FROM THE
SAME INFORMATION LEVEL ANDREAS
MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS AND GIVE UP
YOU MAY HAVE BEEN REFERRING TO A
STATEWIDE ENDEAVOR. ROW THAT WAS
ATTEMPTED I THINK.
S. SAY FIVE SIX SEVEN YEARS AGO
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE BUT THAT
PROJECT I HAD SOME EXECUTION
PROBLEMS AND ISSUES IN FUNDING
PROBLEMS IT HAS BEEN STOPPED AND
CEASED BY THE CHIEF FROM BY THE
COUNCIL A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING INSTEAD
IS AGAIN MORE ORGANICALLY OUR
COURTS HAD BEEN?
DEVELOPING INDIVIDUAL CASES
STONE'S YEAH BUT THEY HAVE A
COMMON THEME IN THAT THERE'S
ONLY SO MANY PROVIDERS FOR THESE
CASES SIMS IN COURT SYSTEMS
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND
INDEED HERE IN CALIFORNIA SO.
THERE IS.
SOME SENSOR SOME STRUCTURE TO
WHAT MIGHT BE A STATEWIDE SYSTEM
BUT IT'S NOT THERE YET IT REALLY
IS BEING DONE INDIVIDUALLY IN
COURTS ARE MODERNIZING. IT ON
THAT RESPECT TO BE ABLE TO DO
WITHOUT BUILDING NEW COURTS AS
AS WE DO THAT.
THERE SHOULD BE TECHNOLOGY AND
THERE SHOULD BE OTHER KINDS OF.
AND THAT'S A SEGUE TO MY NEXT
POINT WHICH IS EMBEDDED IN THE
PROPOSAL HERE AND INDEED IN THE
FUTURE SO A LOT OF MONEY. IS AN
EMPHASIS TO DO JUST THAT SENATOR
WHICH IS COULD NOT JUST BRING
SERVICES BACK IN THE WAY THAT
THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT
BEFORE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME
OF THAT. BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT WAYS AT WHICH YOU
BRING SERVICES BACK WILL YOU
DEVELOP NEW WAYS TO DELIVER THE
SERVICES THAT ARE MORE
EFFICIENT.
LET ME GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES
THAT'S WHAT THE SELF HELP
PROPOSAL IS ABOUT IT IT'S HARD
WHICH IS THE EITHER A RESTORED
DEVELOP OR RENEW OR TO BRING IT
ON A DIFFERENT WAY. AND SO
THERE'S AN EMPHASIS OF BOTH
HAVING IN PERSON AVAILABILITY
BUT ALSO ONLINE AVAILABILITY TO
USERS AND IN FACT THE CHIEF LIKE
TO DESCRIBE THEM AS THE. THE
MILLENNIALS IN THE NEW
GENERATIONS OF USERS ARE COMING
THAT ARE VERY SELF HELP ORIENTED
AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO RETOOL
OUR SYSTEMS TO BE ABLE TO DO
THAT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY
WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES.
A LEGAL PROCESS IS INCREDIBLY
COMPLICATED AND DIFFICULT TO
NAVIGATE SO WE KNOW WE'RE STILL
GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE HUMAN
TOUCH. FOR HOW IT IS THAT WE
GUIDE PEOPLE THROUGH THE SYSTEM
AND ASHES ONE EXAMPLE THERE'S
ALLOWED TO USE A KIOSK AND
SOMETIMES IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES
TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR
PAYMENTS. AND AGAIN EMBEDDED IN
THE PROPOSALS THAT YOU ARE HERE
EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE LOWER DOLLAR
AMOUNTS THERE IS THE NINETEEN
MILLION THAT YOU POINTED OUT.
THERE IS THE E. PORTAL FOR SELF
HELP SERVICES.
AND THEN THERE IS ALSO THE
BEGINNING OF WHAT WE HOPE WILL
BE AN ONLINE NESTED AVAILABLE TO
START TO ADJUDICATE SOME OF THE
TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS OF THE
PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO PHYSICALLY.
APPEAR TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WE
HOPE THAT THAT. PILOTING WILL
ALLOW ARE YEAH IT WAS SOMEBODY
TWO YEARS.
RIGHT.
SO.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS
AGAIN LATER IN THE WORK WE
CAN'T.
THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED ONE DAY
WE USED TO JUST PLAY AT SHE
WANTED TO GO ON ARGUE.
AND THAT WILL BE OKAY TO.
AND YOU CAN DO THAT REMOTELY
WITH AN IMAGE OF ME RULING ON
YOUR CASE INSTEAD OR YOU CAN
WELL THAT'S THAT'S A GOAL BUT
THAT THAT WOULD BE A.
YEAH.
.
IF I MAY SO IT'S INTERESTING
SENATOR THAT THE TWO EXAMPLES
THAT YOU CHOSE.
ARE BOTH EXAMPLES SQUARELY
WITHIN THE FUTURES COMMISSION'S
RECOMMENDATIONS YES THERE'S OF
WAS A. A GROUP THAT FOCUS A
COMPLETELY ON TECHNOLOGY.
AND.
COMING TO EXPLORE THE ALL THE
TECHNOLOGY THAT'S AVAILABLE NOW.
AND AND WILL BE AVAILABLE IN AYE
EVERY AREA OF COURT OPERATIONS.
INCLUDING.
INTERPRETERS.
INCLUDING A VIDEO CONFERENCING
ARRAIGNMENTS INCLUDING.
.
MAKING A ONLINE ADJUDICATION
AVAILABLE IN TRAFFIC CASES IN
AND ANOTHER. AT CASE TYPES WHERE
IT'S
APPROPRIATE UNSUITABLE.
SO THAT AND THAT IS SQUARELY
WITHIN WITH A FUTURES COMMISSION
DID AND THEN ALSO THE SELF HELP
CENTER. WHICH IS CRITICAL GIVEN
THE GROWING POPULATION OF SELF
REPRESENTED LITIGANTS IN OUR
COURTS ACROSS ALL CASE TYPES.
A. AND I HAD THE IDEA FOR
EXAMPLE COMING OUT FUTURES
COMMISSION THAT WE OUGHT TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE A TWENTY FOUR SEVEN
SELF HELP ACCESS
SO THAT PEOPLE PEOPLE EXPECT
THIS FROM THEIR BANKS.
PEOPLE EXPECTED FROM AIRLINES
APPROVAL OF AN EXPECTED FROM THE
COURTS SO ALL OF THESE ISSUES.
OUR ISSUES THAT THE COURTS HAS
SQUARELY FOCUSED ON BUT LET ME
JUST EMPHASIZE THAT EVERY COURT
NEEDS TO REBUILD AND ITS OWN
WAY.
AND JUST FOR EXAMPLE. OF.
ALTHOUGH ALL COURTS HAVE
MAINTAINED COURT REPORTERS IN
MANDATED AREAS
SOME COURTS HAVE MADE THE
COMMITMENT EVEN IN LEAN TIMES.
KEEP COURT REPORTERS IN
FUNCTIONS LIKE FAMILY COURT
WE'VE DONE THAT SANTA CLARA
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT. THESE
ARE CRITICAL CASES AND IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT THERE BE A RECORD
SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND.
THE.
ADD NUANCES AND THE MANY MOVING
PARTS OF SOME OF THE COMPLEX
ORDERS THAT GET ENTERED IN
FAMILY COURT. AND THAT LITIGANTS
HAVE A A CLEAR RECORD SHOULD
THEY. A WISH DID AND.
A TAKEN APPEAL FROM A COURT
ORDER NOT SO IF THERE WERE FOR
EXAMPLE A REQUIREMENT IN THE
FUNDING THAT.
COURTS PROVIDE COURT REPORTERS
AND FAMILY CASES
HOW WOULD THAT WORK WITH THE
COURTS WHICH HAVE STRETCHED MADE
SACRIFICES IN OTHER AREAS IN
ORDER TO MAIN THAT MAINTAIN THAT
PARTICULAR SERVICE.
WITH THOSE COURTS.
BE PUNISHED FOR OF THAT GOOD
DEED BY NOT GETTING SOME OF THAT
FUNDING. OF OR WOULD THEY BE
ALLOWED TO RECEIVE FUNDING OTHER
AREAS TO MAKE UP FOR THE FACT
THAT THEY MADE THAT SACRIFICE
AND MAINTAIN THAT SERVICE FOR
THE CORE USE.
AT THEIR MANY EXAMPLES WELL
DIVERT VERY I THINK TECHNOLOGY
CAN BE YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF
IT IS BUT I THINK WHEN WE BUILD
THESE NEW BUILDINGS.
THAT WERE FUNDING YOU'RE ASKING
FOR A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE.
STRUCTURES.
YOU KNOW.
.
I THINK WE DO THAT BECAUSE NEW
TECHNOLOGY.
THAT.
.
IT COULD BE USED AS A PROCESS TO
BEEN IN BED ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY.
IN THE THE. THE FACILITIES
AGAIN.
IN A USABLE WAY SO THAT WEEKEND.
IS STILL A.
STANDARDIZATION OF CONSISTENCY.
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
OUR PROCESSES.
YOU NO LIKE YOURSELF HELPED
THING IF IT'S THE SAME IN EVERY
COUNTY. THAT PEOPLE CAN YOU
KNOW.
LIKE THEY CAN GO TO A BANK
ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD THEY KNOW
HOW TO PUSH THE RIGHT BUTTON YOU
KNOW.
SO SO THE TECHNOLOGY IS
CONSISTENT. OR FEWER PROCESSES
ARE CONSISTENT.
OF THAT COULD BE A.
.
A REAL VICTORY FOR YOU RATHER
HAVE FIFTY EIGHT SEPARATE.
KINDA LIKE LITTLE.
DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING
BUSINESS.
THEIR BUSINESS MODEL COULD.
START TO.
FRAME OF GOOD.
SO THAT YOU CAN.
.
OUR CRITIC CONSISTENCY AND I
HOPE THAT'S THE.
INTENTION OF YOUR PLANNING IN
THE FUTURE.
THAT'S REALLY THE ESSENCE OF
WHAT THE DID
COUNSEL DOES IN ALL OF THESE
PARTICULARS
IN TECHNOLOGY SELF HELP ALL
THOSE.
ALL THAT INFORMATION COMES
THROUGH THE JUDICIAL CAO.
ED WHAT ABOUT CAME GO BACK TO
THE MANAGEMENT RECORD DUH.
HE'S MANAGEMENT THE FILES.
YOU KNOW THE. MANAGEMENT OF THAT
IN FROM YOU KNOW THOSE.
THOSE CASE FILES FOR. THE
EFFICIENT.
JUDICIARY TERMS OF A MANAGING
THAT INFORMATION IN THE FILES
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT IN.
HE SAID IT'S IN EACH COUNTY.
DEVELOPING THEIR OWN.
CORRECT THE HOUSE THEY'RE BEING.
.
DONE IN A CONSISTENT WAY
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
SO LET ME OF PUT IT IN CONTEXT
WHAT THE COUNCIL DOES INSTEAD OF
BEING THE THE CREATOR DEVELOPER
AND MANAGER OF ONE STATEWIDE
SYSTEM WHICH WAS.
THE VERSION OR VISION FROM
BEFORE THAT'S BEEN REPLACE WORK
THE COUNCIL PROVIDES. BASICALLY
A SET OF GUIDELINES OR THREE
FOUR TEMPLATES OF STYLE LOOK AND
FEEL ON HOW IT IS THAT YOU WOULD
GO ABOUT SELECTING AND THEN
MAKING THOSE AVAILABLE TO THE
COURT SO THEY HAVE CHOICE.
WITHIN THESE PARAMETERS SO THAT
YOU CAN GET TO THAT STAGE OF
DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE IS SOME
LOOK AND FEEL SIMILARITY MORE
IMPORTANTLY SO THAT WE CAN GET
DATA AND INFORMATION TO MAKE
STATEWIDE DECISIONS. BOTH AT THE
COUNCIL LEVEL AND ALSO HERE IN
THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING AND SO.
THOSE ARE COMING UP A YOU KNOW
THROUGHOUT THE COURTS SOME ARE
MORE MATURE THAN OTHERS IT BUT
YOU EVENTUALLY GET TO A STATE
WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE THAT THERE
ARE DEFINITIONS OF TERMS THAT IS
VIRTUALLY ON YOU.
WE MADE WIDELY E. YELLED USE
YOUR EXAMPLE OF YOU KNOW YOU
HAVE IN COMMON STAGES THAT BUT
IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT
PROPOSITION ALPINE. MODOC FRESNO
BUT USED POINT LEAD QUICKLY OUT
THERE'S THERE'S.
SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT CAN BE
REDUCED TO A RIGHT A HANDFUL OF
COUNTIES AND SO THAT MATURATION
PROCESS NATURALLY HAPPENS IN
THOSE RESOURCE RICH ENVIRONMENTS
AND SO WE WOULD EXPECT THOSE TO
START TO COME OUT SOONER. AND
AND ROLE IN AN INFORMED THE
REGULAR REPORTING THAT WE ARE
YOU DO AS A REGULAR BASIS THE
RIGHT NOW IT'S SOMEWHAT A LITTLE
BIT MANUAL AND SOMETIMES ITSELF
REPORTING WE DON'T HAVE THOSE
ABILITIES ARE CAPACITIES BUT.
YOU KNOW THAT DAY THAT DAY
EXPECT RIVER MASTER THESE
QUESTIONS ABOUT DEVELOPING LIKES
CONSISTENT.
COR.
COR SERVICES A CALL WHO WERE
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.
IS BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE THIS
CONSISTENT.
SAID OF.
COR SERVICES THAT ARE SIMILAR.
OR OR CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE
STATE. IT'S EASIER FOR US.
TO.
DEAL WITH YOUR REQUEST.
TO.
TALK ABOUT.
YOUR.
.
MAKING MAKING S SOME DISCRETION
IN YOUR IN YOUR BUDGET IT'S
EASIER.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE THE SAME IF
YOU SHOW US WHAT YOU'RE DOING
WITH THE MONEY.
AND IT'S ALL THE SAME IN EACH
COUNTY. THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR
ITS EVERYBODY'S DOING THEIR OWN
SAYING AND GOING OFF ON.
DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
THAT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT.
BECAUSE THEN WE KIND OF.
HAVE TO DEAL WITH LIKE WELL OUT
OF THE SPENDING THE MONEY
CORRECTLY WHERE THE SPENDING
MONEY.
YOU SEE YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING
SO IT HELPS.
IT HELPS IF YOU HAVE THAT IN
YOUR.
YOU'RE.
PROPOSALS.
I JUST BRING IT OUT BECAUSE IT
MAKES IT EASIER FOR ME IS ALWAYS
FIGHT AFTER FOR MINUTES SO FOR
EXAMPLE THE REFERENCE TO THE
FUTURES COMMISSION THERE'S A
REFERENCE TO IT IN. BUT NOT A.
PACIFIC DIRECTIVE OF FOR EXAMPLE
THAT.
YOU IT WILL BE ASSUMED TO THIS
INCREASE THAT ALL COURTS WILL
BE.
ACTING ON RECOMMENDATION NEXT
MCGUIRE ALL RECOMMENDATIONS OR
WHETHER JUDICIAL COUNCILS JUST
GONNA PICK SOME READ
RECOMMENDATIONS OR SOME TRIAL
COURTS ARE GOING TO DO ONE
RECOMMENDATION AND OTHERS GOING
TO DO ANOTHER. SO I THINK
THAT'S.
AND. IF WE COULD.
CENTERVILLE IF YOU DON'T MIND IF
I COULD ASK LA OVER MINUTES YEAH
ILIO DID YOU NOT EVALUATE THE
FUTURES COMMISSION.
RECOMMENDATIONS YET.
THERE ARE QUITE A FEW
RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE
INTERESTED IN US LOOKING AT
PARTICULAR ONES ARE HAPPY TO DO
SO. I THINK IN SOME OF THE
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD
WITH THE JUDICIAL BRANCH AND
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THEY'RE
STARTING TO LOOK.
HOW THESE ITEMS WOULD BE
IMPLEMENTED WHAT EXACTLY IT
WOULD ENTAIL WHAT THE COSTS ARE?
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S STILL
IN DEVELOPMENT AND SO WE'RE
HAPPY AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD SAY
FOR THEIR PARTICULAR ONES OF THE
COMMITTEES INTERESTED AND WE'RE
HAPPY TO.
START WORKING WITH THE JUDICIAL
BRANCH ON THEM THAT THERE ARE
QUITE A FEW. AS WELL THAT'S
THAT'S A DIFFICULT YOU I'M
FACING IN THIS IS THAT.
IF FOR EXAMPLE I MEAN ON THE ONE
HAND DAILY DOSES WILL KATE THE
LEGISLATURE SHOULD BE MORE
DIRECTIVE WHICH USUALLY I'D
NEVER HESITATE.
BUT IN THIS CASE I GIVE WE ARE
TO JUST BE DIRECTOR AND SAY ARE
I WANT YOU TO IMPLEMENT ALL THE
FUTURES COMMISSION.
WHAT? I MEAN THIS PROBABLY WERE
NOT FUNDING YOU ENOUGH PRIDE TO
DO THAT SO. AND WITHOUT AND. OR
COST TO THEM.
THE NET SEEMS.
WELL I WOULD DO IT BUT ALSO. DID
THE REFERENCE TO IT EVEN IN THIS
BUDGET REQUEST BY THE
ADMINISTRATION SEEMS A LITTLE.
HAD.
WHATEVER NOT YEAH NONSPECIFIC SO
THEN IF IT'S JUST THE WORKLOAD.
ALLOCATION METHOD.
.
ONLY.
NOPE THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO
THAT ONE TOO.
.
YEAH I'M.
YEAH BUT A WHITE SO IF I MEAN.
GO AHEAD LA OPEN YOU CAN ALSO
COME BACK WHEN WE HEAR IT AGAIN
TO SURE I I WAS JUST CAN.
CHARGES CAN ADD TO COMMENT IN
ADDITION TO KIND OF THE WORKLOAD
LOW AS HE REFERENCED WAFA.
WE SAY LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES
THERE COULD ALSO BE CERTAIN
PROGRAMS OR SERVICES ON THAT THE
LEGISLATURE IS PARTICULARLY
INTERESTED IN. EXACTLY CORRECT.
WELL CERTAINLY A AND WE HAVE FOR
THIS ON I THINK WE HAVE A
DIVERSIONARY COURTS WE GOT SOME
OTHER THINGS COMING UP. THIS
AGENDA AYE IN THIS
HEARING TODAY. THAT A.
MAY SO. MAY I ADDRESS HEADS
QUESTION AS I THINK THAT.
A WIN YOU STUDIEDTHEIR FUTURES
COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS
THEY ARE.
OF.
ALMOST EVERYONE THAT I CAN THINK
OF.
REALLY A ADDRESS STATEWIDE
SYSTEMS.
OF FEDERAL I NEW NATO THE
REDUCTION OF DEPENDENCE ON FINES
AND FEES. BAIL REFORM
RESTRUCTURING CIVIL JUSTICE IN
TEARS RESTRUCTURING.
JUVENILE JUSTICE.
A THERE THERE REALLY DIRECTED AT
STATEWIDE SYSTEM SO. OF I DON'T
THINK THERE'S REALLY AND A
QUESTION.
ABOUT.
DIRECTING THE SPECIFIC TRIAL
COURTS.
IN THERE WAFFEN FORMULA OR OTHER
ALLOCATION THOSE TO SPEND THE
MONEY IN A CERTAIN WAY THESE
THESE ARE BASICALLY STATEWIDE
FUTURE ORIENTED INITIATIVES.
THAT OF THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL
WOULD UNDERTAKE OF WITH THE
ASSISTANCE OF THE TRIAL COURTS
BREAK. HIM BUT I THINK YOU
APPRECIATE THE TIME DIFFICULTY
WE FACE THEN IF WE HAVE A READ
A.
REQUESTS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION
TO DO THE INCREASE TO TRIAL
COURTS WHICH I DON'T THINK
YOU'LL HAVE ANY DEBATE AMONG THE
LEGISLATURE IS WHETHER TROUT
COURTS NEED THE INCREASE THEY
NEED IT.
BUT THE REFERENCE TO THE.
THAT.
RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE FUTURES
COMMISSION.
WITHOUT ANY SPECIFICITY IS THE
DIFFICULTY I THINK
OKAY I THINK I AGREE I THINK
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT IF YOU'RE ON
THE SYSTEM WIDE.
I THINGS IS LAID OUT.
GIVE US THE FULL PICTURE.
OF.
GIVE US.
THE PROS AND CONS WE CAN HAVE.
OUR OUR ANALYST AND BUDGET STAFF
AND EVERYBODY.
.
WAY AND IT AND AND LOOK OUT AT
APPROPRIATELY WITH THE PUBLIC.
PROCESS.
AND THEN MAKE A DECISION.
ON ON IT FROM OF SYSTEM WIDE
BASE BASIS.
I I I I THINK THOSE THE MORE OF
THAT APPROACH YOU DO.
THEN JUST SAY WE WANT A BOWL.
BLOCK GRANT THAT WE CAN NOW.
GIVE TO WHATEVER.
COURT WE WANT TO GIVE THE MONEY
TO.
BETTER.
FOR ME.
SO I CONCEIVED LEGACY AT THAT
MAKES ME MORE COMFORTABLE.
ED AND I'D BE HAPPY TO GO OVER
WITH THE JUDGE SHOULD.
.
SO WE CAN IT DOWN AND OVER THE
FUTURES PLAN YOU KNOW WITH MY
STAFF AND YOU KNOW AND.
WE HAVE TO DO THAT. YOU GUYS
BUT THINK DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
MONSTER RESPONDED THIS GO AHEAD.
IMAGE ON WORTH DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE AND I KNOW WE DO
REFERENCE IN OUR BUDGET SUMMARY
THAT. FEATURES COMMISSION AND WE
HAVE HAD CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL ON
THIS THE JUDICIAL BRANCH.
BUT WE DO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT
MAINTAINED THAT DISCRETIONARY
NATURE OF THE FUNDING 鶂ECIALLY
GIVEN THINGS THAT THEY'VE TALKED
ABOUT WITH THE LOCAL TRIAL
COURTS HAVING TO TAKE REDUCTIONS
INDIVIDUALLY YOU KNOW FIFTY
DIFFERENT WAYS SO. HAVING THIS
DISCRETIONARY FUNDING FOR THEM
WILL ALLOW THEM TO KIND OF FOCUS
ON LOCAL PRIORITIES AS WELL AS
PRIORITIES OF THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL THEMSELVES.
ALRIGHT SO AROSE BY THANKING YOU
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND
COMMIT TO MAKING SURE THAT YOU
HAVE A LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE THAT
WHEN YOU MAKE FUNDING DECISIONS
FOR US WILL. ALL HAVE OTHER
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT IS.
GREAT AND I THINK THERE WE MAY
IN BETWEEN THE TIME THEY KNOW
AFTER ME REVISE WE MAY HAVE SOME
OTHER THOUGHTS ON IT WHEN WE
REVISIT OR HOLDING IT OPEN NOW.
BUT WHAT I WANNA DO IS. I IN.
TRYING TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S TIME
RESTRAINTS I DID NOT ASK FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT SELMAN ASK FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. FIND THE
ITEM THAT WE JUST HEARD WHICH IS
THE OVERALL TRIAL COURT AND.
OF FUNDING AND THEN FOLLOWING
THAT IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE
ROOM WHO HAD WANTED TO MAKE A
PUBLIC COMMENT ON A PRIOR ITEM
YOU'RE WELCOME TO. GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU I'M NANCY TRAVEL ON
THIS CEO CONSUMER ATTORNEYS OF
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY I JUST WANT TO MAKE
TWO POINTS. ONE IS THAT WE VERY
MUCH SUPPORT HAVING THIS
ADDITIONAL MONEY GO BACK TO THE
COURTS.
IN A WAY THAT THEY CAN USE IT IN
ORDER TO RE OPEN COURTROOMS
AS THEY FINALLY GET MONEY BACK
AFTER DIGGING OUT OF THE DEEP
BUDGET HOLE WHAT ARE FOLKS HAVE
FOUND. IS THAT THERE ARE SOME
VERY SEVERE DELAYS IN SOME
COUNTIES IN OTHER COUNTIES NOT
SO MUCH.
SO ADDRESSING THE POINT THAT HAS
BEEN RAISED EARLIER ON PEOPLE
SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR
THREE YEARS TO HAVE THEIR CASE
COME TO TRIAL. WHEN IT'S
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY
HAVE THAT CASE HEARD UP IN SANTA
CLARA THERE MAY BE A SHORTER AND
DELAY IN ALAMEDA THERE MAY BE A
LONGER DELAY SO. WE HOPE THAT
THE MONEY WILL NOT BE DIVERTED
AWAY FROM BASIC COURT OPERATIONS
BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO HAVE.
THE COURTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO
REOPEN THOSE COURTROOMS IN
PROJECT WE CIVIL COURT ROOMS
WHICH HAVE SUFFERED
DISPROPORTIONATELY DURING THE
BUDGET CUTS.
MY SECOND POINT IS AND IT
REALLY FOLLOWS FROM THE FIRST IS
THAT WE HOPE THERE ARE NOT
SPECIFIC EARMARKS THAT DIVERT.
THAT JOURNAL MONEY BECAUSE IF
THAT GENERAL MONEY IS DIVERTED
FROM SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT IT
WON'T GO.
TO RE OPEN COURTROOMS.
THANKS IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE
FUTURES.
DOCUMENT DR ANY COMMENTS ON THAT
YES.
ON THE FUTURES DOCUMENT IN
PARTICULAR.
WE'RE VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF
HAVING.
CIVIL TEARS I'M PERFECTLY FOR
MID LEVEL CASES ON SENATOR
HERTZBERG HAS A BILL TO TRY TO
DO THAT THIS YEAR AND WE ARE.
SPONSORING NOW BECAUSE WE REALLY
DO WANT TO OVE THINGS FORWARD
SO CASES CAN BE HEARD QUICKLY
AND MORE EFFICIENTLY. AND YOU
KNOW THERE WILL HAVE TO BE
CHANGE AND HOW THOSE CASES IS
HEARD LIKE FOR EXAMPLE VIDEO
TESTIMONY SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER. SO
WE WANT TO HELP DRIVE THAT
CHANGE AND HAVE CIVIL CASES
HEARD MORE EFFICIENTLY.
THANK YOU AND AND ON THE FUTURES
REPORTS SINCE IT DOES MENTION
BILL WILL YOU TO THE HUMPHREY
DECISION WE WILL BE HAVING HERE.
AT LEAST ON HER FREE DECISION.
YEAH.
GO AHEAD GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM
CHAIRMAN WHEN CARGO PRESIDING
JUDGE OF ALAMEDA COUNTY.
AND WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THE
BUDGET ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. NOT
LIKE TO COMMENT ON A QUESTION
THAT WAS RAISED THERE IS A
REFERENCE TO LAST YEAR HOW IT
SEEMED TO BE THE BRANCH WAS A
LITTLE BIT UP. DIVIDED ON SOME
ISSUES AND I THINK THAT
REFLECTED FIVE YEARS OF
UNDERFUNDING.
AND.
THE THE COURSE BEING IN A
SITUATION WHERE GIVEN SOME
COURTS WERE SEVERELY
UNDERFUNDED.
ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL.
ONE DURAN OWNERS OR PAST YEAR
ADDRESS THAT.
AND IT WAS DECIDED INTERNALLY.
GOING FORWARD IF WE GOT NEW
MONEY A CERTAIN AMOUNT WOULD GO
TO BRING UP THE UNFUNDED COURTS.
AND THE BALANCE WOULD GO.
THROUGH WATER FROM.
TO ALL COURTS AND THE BRANCH
CAME TOGETHER ON THAT.
THEN THE GOVERNOR CAME OUT AND
GUESS WHAT.
THE BUDGET PROPOSED EXACTLY THE
SAME THING CERTAIN MONEY GOING
TO BRING UP THE OTHER FUNNY
COURTS AND THE BALANCE GOING.
VIA Y. FROM TO ALL THE COURTS
SO.
OF THE BRANCH INTERNALLY. IN THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET ARE EXACTLY ON
THE SAME PAGE.
AND SO THERE'S REMARKABLE UNITY
THIS YEAR THANK YOU. THANK YOU
REALLY APPRECIATE THE CAUGHT
COMMENT.
IT AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
CALIFORNIA.
JUDGES ASSOCIATION IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
MENTIONED THE.
BUDGET CUTS THAT FELL
DISPROPORTIONATELY ON THE CIVIL
SIDE HAD THE IMPACT NOT ONLY A
OF REDUCING HEARINGS BUT ALSO
REDUCING MOTIONS THAT IN MANY
CASES ALLOW. CASES TO BE
RESOLVED AWAY FROM THE COURTS
SO RESPECTFUL OF THAT WE
APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF
AUGMENTATION AND DO RESPECTFULLY
ASK THAT THE COURTS BE GIVEN.
THE FLEXIBILITY TO APPLY THOSE
WHERE THE FUNDS ARE MOST NEEDED
IN INDIVIDUAL COURTS.
THANK YOU SO NOW IF THERE WERE
ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE
PREVIOUS. ANDA GO AHEAD GO TO
THE MIKE AND MY APOLOGIES FOR
NOT HAVING ASKED FOR THEM.
SOONER. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
SHAWN HOFFMAN WITH CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
ONE SPEAK BRIEFLY AND ITEM
SEVENTEEN.
OF THE DOJ REQUEST FOR FUNDING
FOR THE SEXUAL ASSAULT FORENSIC
EVIDENCE.
CTA'S BEEN UNWAVERING IN OUR
SUPPORT FOR LEGISLATION AIMED AT
REDUCING THAT BACKLOG GOING BACK
TO MANAGERS BILLS SOME.
FIVE YEARS AGO UP THROUGH US
SENATE BILL FOURTEEN FORTY NINE
BY SENATOR LEAVE IT THIS YEAR.
TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT
LEGISLATION DOES CREATE WORKLOAD
ISSUES FOR THE DEPARTMENT WE'RE
VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF
PROVIDING THEM THE NECESSARY
RESOURCES TO WORK THROUGH THAT
EVIDENCE BACKLOG THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
AYE MICHELLE THOMAS SHOP
REPRESENTING ALAMEDA COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY NEEDS HIM
ALLEY. WE ALSO SUPPORT BUDGET
ITEM SEVENTEEN I'M WILL YOU
SUPPORT DOJ'S AYE RADS TESTING
WE THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM
WERE ALSO ONE OF THE SPONSORS OF
SOME EARLY OF US SP FOURTEEN
FORTY NINE. AND UNDERSTAND THAT
THAT WILL INCREASE WORKLOAD FOR
DOJ'S LAB SO JUST WANNA MAKE
SURE THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE
FUNDING FOR IT. THANK YOU.
BUT GOOD AFTERNOON KIRK SMITH
WITH THE PLACERVILLE HISTORIC
PRESERVATION LIKE.
WITH A GROUP OF STUDENTS TO THE
STATE JUDICIAL COUNCIL.
A TO STOP OUR COURTHOUSE IN THE
RIVER COUNTY FROM BEING MOVED
FROM MAIN STREET. TO A MANTRA
FLICKS BUNCH OF ONE OF THE END
OF TOWN.
AND I SPOKE TO THE STATE
JUDICIAL COUNCILS COMMITTEE
RECORD HOUSE CONSTRUCTION YEAR
AGO.
I TOLD THEM THAT THEY KEPT UP
PROJECT. IN THEIR PORTFOLIO THEY
RISK THE ENTIRE.
PROGRAM FROM BEING DAMAGED
THEY WOULDN'T PREVAIL Y. BECAUSE
THEY COULDN'T POSSIBLY ARGUE
THOSE BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE
PRISM SO HUGELY EXPENSIVE.
THE COURT HOUSE AND SENATE CLARA
WAS ONE OF THE OLDEST A MISTAKE
BUILT ON EIGHTEEN SIXTY EIGHT
THEY WERE STORED IT WAS DAMAGED
BY AN EARTHQUAKE. AUTHORED YEARS
LATER.
SO WHEN I SPOKE TO THE.
COUNCIL UP I CAN'T SAY WERE
SUCCESSFUL BUT I KNOW THAT THE
GOVERNOR THIS YEAR CUT THE
BUDGET.
WHAT I WOULD URGE OF THE MONEY
TO BE SPENT WAS TO BUILD A
COURTHOUSE? THAT WOULD EXPAND
WHAT WE HAVE NOW. YOU HAVE A.
A PARKING LOT NEXT DOOR
ADJOINING GOVERNMENT PROPERTY
YOU CAN EXPAND WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
AND NOT CAUSE MASSIVE ECONOMIC
DAMAGE TO RESTORE PLACERVILLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE URGE BECOME
CENTERED I HOPE TO MEET WITH
YOU.
INDIVIDUALLY IN THE WEEKS TO
COME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU.
ARE ANY OTHER VOTE COMMENT ON
OUR PREVIOUS ITEMS.
ALRIGHT.
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE NEXT
ITEM WHICH IS ISSUE NINETEEN.
THE PILOT PROJECT FOR IRAN
ONLINE.
EDUCATION.
CUTE OCCASION I WAS LESS THAT
WERE DEAF EDUCATION OF TRAFFIC
VIOLATIONS.
ENGLAND LOST.
IT AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND.
SENATOR BELL I'M MY NAME IS
LOCKHEED ORIGIN THE BUDGET
DIRECTOR FOR THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL IN A BRIEFING INTRODUCED
THIS ISSUE. ARM THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET.
INCLUDES THREE POINT FOUR
MILLION DOLLARS GENERAL FUND AND
SEVEN POSITIONS IN EIGHTEEN
NINETEEN.
AND ONE POINT FOUR MILLION
DOLLARS IN SEVEN POSITIONS ON
GOING TO DESIGN THE PLANE
MAINTAIN SOFTWARE TO ADJUDICATE
TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS ONLINE. IN
DESIGNATED PILOT COURTS
THE ONLINE EDUCATION SYSTEM TO
BUILD AND EXPAND ON THE
COUNCIL'S PRICE OF JUSTICE
PROJECT I HAVE SHELLEY CURRAN
WHO'S THE. DIRECTOR OF CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SERVICES.
FURTHER EXPLAIN THE PROPOSAL.
BUT AFTERNOON SENATOR I'M
SHELLEY CURRAN.
WITH THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL IS
LACK OF STATED OF ONE OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE THE CHIEF
JUSTICE FUTURES COMMISSION IS TO
MOVE TO THE CIVIL CIVIL
ADJUDICATION OF TRAFFIC
VIOLATIONS.
THE A WE HAVE A WORK GROUP
THAT'S IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW THAT
IS DEVELOPING A A FULLER
PROPOSAL I'M. UP BUT THIS BUDGET
PROPOSAL ACTUALLY IS A FIRST
STEP IN MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION
AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT THAT THE
BUDGET PROPOSAL DOES IS IT
PROVIDES FOR THE ONLINE
EDUCATION OF TRAFFIC MATTERS.
BY BY FACILITATING TRIALS BY
WRITTEN DECLARATION.
WITHOUT FULL THE POSITIVE
BEILIN WITHOUT A TRIAL DE NOVO
AND IT ALSO SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS
FOR THE ONLINE ADJUDICATION OF
TRAFFIC MATTERS.
AS LIKE A MENTION THE PROPOSAL
ALSO FACILITATES OUR PRICE OF
JUSTICE GRANT WE WERE ONE OF
STATE FIVE STATE COURT SYSTEM
THAT RECEIVED A U. S. SEO J.
GRANT. IN OCTOBER TWO THOUSAND
AND FIFTEEN SOME FIVE COURTS
VOLUNTEERED TO PARTICIPATE IN
PILOTS.
TO SERVICE PILOTS IN THAT
WONDER TULARE SHASTA SAN
FRANCISCO SANTA CLARA AND
VENTURA. ON THE COUNCIL HAS
SELECTED A VENDOR TO DEVELOP THE
TOOL ON WERE WORKING WITH OTHER
STATE AGENCIES TO LINK TO.
DATABASES IN ORDER TO ARE
CONFIRMED AS PUBLIC ASSISTANCE
BENEFIT RECIPIENTS I'M WITH THE
WITH THE OPT IN OF THOSE
RECIPIENTS. OF THE VENDOR AND
THE PILOTS OF WORK TOGETHER AND
MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS TO
DATE OF THE COURTS ARE
FINALIZING THE DATA THAT THE
USED TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS. ON
THERE ALSO MAKING FINAL
DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT
RECOMMENDATIONS THE THE TOOL
ITSELF IS GOING TO USE. ON WE WE
LOOK AT THE THE EXISTING U. S.
DOJ PILOT REALLY AS THE PROOF IN
CONCEPT ON THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL.
WILL SERVE AS THE AND I'M GOING
SUPPORT WILL ENABLE US TO
IDENTIFY PROBLEMS.
BEFORE WE HOPE TO ROLL THIS
WHOLE PROJECT OUT STATEWIDE I'M
WE HAVE HEARD THE CONCERNS FROM
FROM THE THE COMMITTEE.
ALSO THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S
OFFICE WERE WORKING WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND WE'RE
HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH.
THOSE PARTNERS TO RAISE SOME OF
THE OR TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE
CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.
OKAY O. ONE HERE FROM.
DILIO ON THIS.
SO THE THREE POINT FOUR MILLION
THAT'S PROPOSED CONSISTS OF TWO
COMPONENTS THERE'S TWO MILLION
WHICH IS ONE TIME AND ONE POINT
FOUR MILLION WITCHES.
FUNDING APPROVING THE THE
FUNDING BUT PROVIDING THE ONE
POINT FOUR MILLION ONLY ON A
FOUR YEAR LIMITED TERM BASIS.
THE PROPOSED ACTIVITIES COULD
PROVIDE BOTH STATE AND PUBLIC
BENEFIT BUT WE DO FIND THAT IT
IS PREMATURE TO PROVIDE ONGOING
FUNDING BEFORE THE PILOT IS
COMPLETE AND THE LEGISLATURE HAS
AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE
WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO
CONTINUE OR TO BE MODIFIED IN A
PARTICULAR WAY.
WE ALSO RECOMMEND MODIFYING THE
PROPOSED TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE
IN TWO WAYS TO BASICALLY I'M
SURE THAT THE LEGISLATURE GETS
THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'LL
NEED TO EVALUATE THE PILOT. WAS
OF THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION IS.
THE JUDICIAL BRANCH ESTIMATES
THAT THE COURTS WILL PARTICIPATE
IN THIS PILOT AND SO WE DO
RECOMMEND REQUIRING. THAT EACH
OF THE PROPOSED ACTIVITIES BE
TESTED A MINIMUM OF THREE
COURTS.
AND RATHER THAN ALLOWING EACH OF
THE PILOT COURTS TO CHOOSE WHAT
ACTIVITIES IT WANTS TO TEST AND
SO THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT EACH
OF THE ACTIVITIES IS TOUGH SAID.
AND THEY'RE TESTED IN DIFFERENT
COURTS WITH DIFFERENT PROCESS
THESE SYSTEMS AND COURT USERS.
MY SECOND RECOMMENDATION RELATED
TO THE PROPOSED TRAILER BILL
LANGUAGE IS REQUIRING JUDICIAL
COUNCIL THE COMPLETE AN
EVALUATION OF THE PILOT WHEN
IT'S COMPLETE.
BLOOD CURRENT LANGUAGE REQUIRES
A REPORT ON IMPLEMENTATION OF
THE PILOT BUT THERE'S NO
REQUIREMENT FOR EVALUATION NO
REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SUBMISSION
OF ANY PARTICULAR INFORMATION.
AND SO.
WITHOUT KIND OF A CLEAR
COMPARING AND CONTRASTING THE
PILOT SYSTEM TO EXISTING ONE IT
WILL BE REALLY DIFFICULT FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO FIGURE OUT. TO
WHAT EXTENT THE PILOT SHOULD BE
CONTINUED MODIFIED OR EXPANDED.
.
WE HAVE A COMMENT FROM THE.
FORMER FRIENDS.
S. THINK YOUR RECORD DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE.
FIRST THEY HAVE LIKE TO SAY
THAT THIS PILOT PROGRAM WILL
IMPLEMENT A CONVENIENT OPTION
FOR BOTH INDIVIDUALS AND THE
COURTS TO ADDRESS THE HIGHEST
VOLUME CASE TIE. MY.
AND IN ADDITION IT'S ALSO
BUILDING UPON EFFORTS THAT THE
JUDICIAL COUNCIL HAS ALREADY
BEGUN UNDERTAKING REGARDING
FACILITATING THE DETERMINATION
FOR AN INDIVIDUAL'S ABILITY TO
PAY.
COMMITTEE STUFF THE LA THOUGH
AND STAKEHOLDERS AS MS CURRENT
MENTIONED HAVE ALL PROVIDE A
VERY THOUGHTFUL INPUT ON THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PILOT.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING THOSE DISCUSSIONS
REGARDING THE OLEO SPECIFIC
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS ITEM I
DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS
PROPOSAL MERITS ONGOING FUNDING.
TO ENSURE THAT THEIR SERVICE
CONTINUITY ONCE THE PILOT IS PUT
IN PLACE IN ABOUT APPROXIMATELY
EIGHT COURTS.
ALSO ENSURING THAT THE SOFTWARE
THAT IS PROCURED IS MAINTAINED
CONTINUALLY. ANTIPHONS TO
FACILITATE CONTINUAL ASSESSMENT
OF THE PILOT FOR POTENTIAL
STATEWIDE.
DEPLOYMENT.
OKAY WE GOT SOME QUESTIONS
SERRANO.
FIRST THOUGH THE TRAILER BILL
LANGUAGE GIVE SUPPORT TO
DISCRETION TO CHOOSE.
TO INCLUDE ABILITY TO PAY
DETERMINATION.
IS THIS ABILITY TO PAY
DETERMINATION.
STANDARD ACROSS THE THE FIVE.
OPPOSED CHORDS AND.
.
IS THERE A STANDARDIZATION ARE.
SO ALL ALL FIVE PILOT COURTS WHO
ARE ALL ALL COURTS THAT ARE
EXISTING PILOTS NAM THAT THE
HEART OF THAT PROGRAM IS AN
ABILITY TO PAY DETERMINATION AND
SO YEAH ALL FIVE OF THOSE COURTS
ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE USING
THIS NEW TOOL. TO DO AN ABILITY
TO PAY DETERMINATION AS FAR
STANDARDIZATION IS CONCERNED
WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH
EACH OF THE PILOTS.
AND THE PILOTS ARE AYE AT THE
COURT LEVEL ARE DEVELOPING ON
THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL
COME ESSENTIALLY COME OUT OF
THIS MACHINE THAT THAT.
THAT THE THAT WILL GO BEFORE
THE JUDGE AND THEN THE JUDGE
WILL TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION
AND WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION
ABOUT.
HOW HERE SHE WOULD LIKE TO TO
RESOLVE THE CASE?
?
WHEN YOU PICKED COUNTIES THE JEW
CONSIDER LARGER COUNTIES.
SO THE BIG ONES LIKE LOS ANGELES
MAYOR OF SAN DIEGO.
YES.
ARE YOU OPEN TO THAT WOULD HURT
YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT SOME SO SO
WHEN THE THE PRICE OF JUSTICE
WERE FIRST AWARDED THE PRICE OF
JUSTICE GRANT WE REACHED OUT TO
THE TO THE COURTS AND SAID WHERE
THERE. WERE THE COURTS THAT WERE
INTERESTED IN DOING THIS AND
DONATE IT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU
INTEREST WE WE THOUGHT WE'RE
GONNA START WITH THREE. AND FIVE
COURTS CAME FORWARD AND SAID
THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED AND SO
WE WANTED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO
THE COURTS AND BROUGHT IN FIVE.
TO DATE WE'VE RECEIVED.
INCREASE FROM FROM SEVERAL
ADDITIONAL COURTS I'M WONDERING
YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THIS
THIS.
TRAILER BILL WILL BE ADOPTED
AND AND WILL BE ABLE TO OPEN UP
TO MORE COURTS AND SO. ON ONCE A
DECISION'S BEEN MADE BY THE
LEGISLATURE ON AND AND SIGNED BY
THE GOVERNOR SOON AND IS.
THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH
JUDICIAL COUNCIL PROCESS TO
CHOOSE THE THE OTHER COURSE THAT
WILL PARTICIPATE KEEPING IN MIND
THE IMPORTANCE OF. GEOGRAPHIC
DIVERSITY QUART SIZED DIVERSITY
ON THE IMPLICATIONS OF OF LOW
INCOME CONSUMERS IN VARIOUS
COUNTIES AND MAKING SURE THAT
WE.
DO RECEIVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO
INFORM FUTURE LEGISLATIVE
DECISIONS.
OKAY ARE NO THE QUESTION LOW YET
CENTERS CARE BACK.
.
THIS QUESTION.
AS CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE IN
COMMITTEE ON WHERE THIS BECAUSE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WITH MY
COMMITTEE IS A.
.
I VISITED THE.
.
SHELTER HERE FOR WOMEN AND
CHILDREN SACRAMENTO AND.
.
I I I TALK TO THE WOMEN THERE
ARE NICE IT WOULD WHAT'S THE BIG
PROBLEM WHAT KIND OF PROBLEMS
YOU HAVE ONE LOT OF IT WAS.
SIR THIS.
ABILITY TO PAY COURT FINES FOR
TRAFFIC CITIES INSTANTLY THERE
WITH LAKE.
IT CAME UP ON ALMOST EVERY
SINGLE.
PERSON THAT WAS LIVING AND.
.
IN THE PROGRAM WHEN I ASKED THE
DIRECTOR.
.
YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE
JESUS ALL THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG
PROBLEM.
SO I THINK THE.
.
THE MECHANISM FOR.
REINSTATED THE DRIVERS LACES
FOR THINGS LIKE FAILURE TO
APPEAR.
IT'S DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO GET
AROUND OKAY.
THAT'S
YOU KNOW.
.
AND THEN IF THE IF THE
COMMUNICATE THROUGH THIS YSTEM
THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH.
IS THAT.
BUT BEGINNING A PROCESS THROUGH
THAT TO REINSTATE THEIR DRIVER'S
LICENSE SIR. HOW DOES THAT WORK
CAN YOU TELL ME?
ARE YOU OPEN THE LANGUAGE ON
THAT.
THIS THIS PROPOSAL RELATES TO
SORT OF PRE DELINQUENCY WEARS
THOSE ISSUES WERE.
ONCE SO THIS IS AN EFFORT TO
INCREASE THE ABILITY OF FOLKS TO
COME AN ADJUDICATOR CASES BEFORE
BECOMES FAIR TO PAY AND HOLD IS
PLACED ON THE LICENSE.
BUT WE DO HAVE EXISTING
PROCESSES AND THERE WAS TRAILER
BILL THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR
THAT MADE IT VERY CLEAR ABOUT
HOW.
AN INDIVIDUAL GETS OBSERVER
INTERESTED HOW THIS WOULD FIT
INTO THAT WHAT'S IT WOULD MAKE
IT MORE CONVENIENT YA FOLKS TO
NOT HAVE TO COME TO COURT TAXI
MAKE THAT APPEARANCE. AND
SCHEDULE AND THROUGH THEM THE
MENU ITEMS THAT THE COURTS WOULD
OFFER YOU THINK ABOUT THAT
PLEASE.
OKAY THANK YOU.
.
ALRIGHT SO I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER
QUESTIONS GO AHEAD.
SO.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS
FOR FAILURE TO APPEAR SOMETIMES
WITH.
THESE TRAFFIC I'M CETACEANS IS
THE.
ELIMINATION OF A DRIVER'S
LICENSE.
SO IS THERE A MECHANISM TO
REINSTATE A PERSON'S DRIVER'S
LICENSE.
YOU KNOW ONCE THEY'VE HAD IT.
REMOVE FOR FAILURE TO APPEAR.
THROUGH A WRITTEN COMMUNICATION
OR AN ONLINE TOOL.
IT GIVEN THAT WE'RE DOING THIS
PILOT IS THAT GOING TO BE ONE OF
THE THINGS.
SIMILAR TO WHAT I SAID.
DID YOU ARE DIAZ THAT KIND OF
SIMILAR NOT QUITE LIKE YOU DO
THAT OKAY.
THAT WOULD BE THAT THAT YOU
RAISE AN INTERESTING POINT.
WE DIDN'T WE HAVEN'T
SPECIFICALLY SPOKEN ABOUT THE
ABILITY OF SOMEONE TO TO
REINSTATE DRIVER'S LICENSE
THROUGH THE USE OF THIS TOOL I
WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND THINK
ABOUT THAT AND HAVE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE WITH THE
COURTS ON. AND THE VENDOR TO SEE
IF THOSE AS IT OBVIOUSLY HAS.
I MEAN.
FIND AND SUCH HAVE A BIG IMPACT
ON PEOPLE BUT THE LAST WEEK
DRIVERS LICENSE HAS EVEN A
BIGGER ONE.
AND ITS USUALLY AFFECTED THEIR.
WORKING SITUATION AND SUCH AND
THEN IF THEY HAVE TO GO BACK IN
PERSON TO COURT AGAIN.
BECAUSE IT'S
YOU KNOW WOULDN'T THAT IN SOME
CASES THEY MAY HAVE FAILED TO
APPEAR JUST BECAUSE OF AN ISSUE
OF.
OF A JOB RATHER THAN BEING YOU
KNOW CARELESS OR NOT WANTING TO
PAY. AND OUR GRAND HOPE WITH
THIS IS THAT WE WILL AVOID
GETTING TO THAT POINT AT HOME
RIGHT BY BY HAVING A TOOL THAT
IS AVAILABLE TO INDIVIDUALS.
TWENTY FOUR HOURS A DAY WHERE
THEY CAN GET ONLINE AND THEY CAN
HAVE THESE MATTERS ADJUDICATED
RIGHT AND THEN WE HOPE THAT THE
RESULT OF COUNTIES INCLUDE THAT
IF WE CAN'T BE.
I KIND OF RESENT IN CONTEXT OF
THE GAME WOMEN'SSHELTER THE HOT
TOOK OF THE STAFF OF THE.
HOUSING TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE
ON A TOUR.
AND EVERYBODY AND THEIR TALKED
ABOUT THIS ISSUE. BREAK DRIVERS
LICENSE AND OKAY BECAUSE THEY
WANTED TO GO OUT AND FIND A JOB.
YOU KNOW.
GET OUT OF THE SHELTER. FIND A
PLACE TO LIVE. THAT THAT WAS ONE
OF THE BARRIERS
OKAY.
SO THIS A PILOT PROJECTS I FEW
QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE IS IT
SEEMS THAT THE FUNDING IS BEING
REQUEST IS ONGOING. USUALLY FOR
PILOT WE'RE REQUESTING FUNDING
FOR A SPECIFIC TIME THE PILOT.
AND SECOND.
IT THE WAY THE LANGUAGE IS
WRITTEN AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THE
CITY GIVES THE FIVE
PARTICIPATING COURT'S.
DISCRETION IN TERMS OF THE TYPE
OF FEATURES THAT ARE IN.
.
THE TOOL SO IN OTHER WORDS ACTED
LIKE END UP WHERE ONE COURT. HAS
MECHANISM TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO
GET THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE BACK
IN THE OTHER FOUR DOT.
SO.
WHAT KINDA STANDARDIZATION
AMENDED THE BEST WAY TO EVALUATE
IF THE TOOL SEMI STANDARD TO?
YES WE ARE WE ARE HAPPY TO WORK
ON WHAT WE KNOW THAT THOSE
CONCERNS WERE RAISED BY THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE I'M
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH
YOUR STAFF AND THE LA OWN
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE TO ADDRESS
SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. THE
THINKING BY BY MAKING IT.
UP MORE PERMISSIVE WHEN WE
DRAFT THE LANGUAGE IS JUST
WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS.
THAT THAT ARE GOING TO BE
DEPLOYED AS WE ARE ARE ABLE TO
WORK EFFECTIVELY WITH THE TOOL
AND BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH WITH THE
ELEVEN OTHERS TO ADDRESS SOME OF
THOSE CONCERNS. WERE.
AND THEN DO YOU IF YOU WANT TO
SPEAKTO WHY. A PILOT PROJECT
DOESN'T HAVE TIME.
NG. YES THINK YOUR RECORD
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND THE
REQUEST FOR FUNDING IS ON.
PROJECT ALTHOUGH IT IS A PILOT
BECAUSE IF AN ONGOING INVESTMENT
IS IMPORTANT TO ENSURE.
A SERVICE CONTINUITY IN THOSE
COURTS THAT ARE PART OF THE
INITIAL PILOT APPROXIMATELY
EIGHT COURTS.
SINCE WE ARE EXPECTING THAT OVER
TIME IT WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN
EXPANSION AND CONTINUATION IN AT
LEAST THOSE COURTS.
ALSO AND CONTINUED FUNDING ON AN
ONGOING BASIS WILL PROVIDE FOR
MAINTENANCE OF THE SOFTWARE THAT
IS PROCURED AS PART OF THE PILOT
PROJECT.
IT WILL FACILITATE THE CONTINUAL
ASSESSMENT OF THESE PILOT
PROJECTS FOR POTENTIAL EXPANSION
STATEWIDE.
I THINK.
ALSO DAMAGE OUR DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE I THINK TO THE EXTENT
THAT THE PILOT DOESN'T WORK.
WHICH I HOPE IT DOES BUT.
IF IT DOESN'T THERE IS ALWAYS
THE ABILITY FOR THE LEGISLATURE
TO REVISIT THE ITEM AND MAKE THE
NECESSARY REDUCTIONS IN THEIR
BUDGET.
.
I FINALLY SAGE SUBMIT
CONTRADICTORY TO ASSUME ALREADY
THE PILOTS GOING TO CONTINUE.
.
YEAH JUST.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT.
I MEAN I CERTAINLY WOULD HOPE
THAT.
ONLINE.
EDUCATION.
READ THAT TIME.
WOULD WORK IT WOULD BE AND THAT
WE MIGHT TRY TO SET IT UP FOR
MOLD MANY MANY MANY MORE COURTS
BUT IT COULD ALSO. I HOPE NOT
AND I DON'T MEAN IN ANY WAY TO
TRY TO SAY SOMETHING TO WISH
THIS BUT IT COULD BE A DISASTER
SO.
IT'S THAT I MEAN WE WE THOUGHT
LIKE THE BIG STATEWIDE CASE
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
THE BRINGING UP OF QUE SORRY BUT
IT YOU A.
.
SO. I THINK WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK
AT THAT TOO.
OKAY.
.
THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS ARE
THERE ANY.
.
THE THE WAY GO AHEAD SENATOR
BREAUX THE ONLY THING ABOUT THIS
IS THIS HELPS WHO THOSE PEOPLE
OF LIMITED ME.
I THINK.
IF.
THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF
ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE THE TOWN
YEAH NO YEAH I WANT TO SEE IT
WORK.
AND IF IT DOES WORK WE CAN
CONTINUE IN AUGUST NO.
THIS IT WILL HELP.
PEOPLE WITH LIMITED MEANS AND
RIGHT.
TRANSPORTATION.
.
PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW.
I THINK I THINK THAT HELPS.
ABSENT.
RIGHT SO I HAVE A YOU KNOW I
JUST HOPE IT. COMES OUT OKAY WE
GOTTA.
GIVE IT A SHOT THAT'S MY
OPINION.
RIGHT NOW I'M AN* FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT AND ALL ASKING ON THIS
ITEM AND THEN I KNOW THERE WERE
A FEW PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T IN THE
ROOM WHO WANTED TO. ACT COMMENT
ON THAT AT PREVIOUS SERVE MAYBE
ONE PREVIOUS WHO THEY MAY ALSO
COMMENT NOW.
BOB MADAM CHAIR MICRO WITH THE
WESTERN CENTER ON LAW AND
POVERTY WE APPRECIATE THIS.
OF RICH DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM
ARM. AND I THINK YOU'VE HIT ON
SOME VERY IMPORTANT POINTS AND I
JUST WANT TO CUT TO THE CHASE
PRETTY QUICKLY HERE. SO WE'VE
MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN LAST
FOR FIVE YEARS IN THE CITY ON
THIS ISSUE. AND WE'VE GOT OVER
FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE ARE
LICENSE BACK WE'VE GOT HUNDREDS
OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
REDUCTIONS IN FINES AND FEES
THREE AMNESTY. WE'VE MADE OTHER
IMPROVEMENTS OF THE COURT
PROCESS THAT HELP OUR CLIENTS.
AND SO WHAT WE THINK THERE IS
SOME PROMISING AN ONLINE
EDUCATION MODEL. ARM WE WORRY
THAT THE PILOT AS IT'S A SET UP
WILL ESSENTIALLY. CALLED THE
ABILITY TO GET ARM OF FURTHER
REFORM OVER THE NEXT THREE OR
FOUR YEARS FOR THE BROAD SWATH
OF PEOPLE IN THE STATE WHO WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THE PILOT PROGRAM.
AND SO OUR OUR OUR.
WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST AND
RECOMMEND TO THE COMMITTEE? AS
WE HAVE STATED MANY TIMES
PREVIOUSLY. IS THAT.
THE ACROSS THE BOARD REDUCTIONS
TO FINES AND FEES SHOULD BE
ALLOCATED TO BE PROVIDED FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS WE DON'T THINK WE
NEED APILOT PROGRAM. TO
DEMONSTRATE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE
REALLY POOR CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY
THESE TICKETS I THINK IT'S
PRETTY BROADLY ACCEPTED AND
UNDERSTOOD. AND SECONDLY WE
WOULD ADVOCATE FOR ON ON A A
STATEWIDE STANDARD FOR ABILITY
TO PAY THAT MAKES THE PAYMENTS.
ARMED LOW ENOUGH SO THAT OUR
CLIENTS CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THE
PAYMENTS EVERY MONTH AND NOT END
UP IN AN ABILITY TO PAY
SITUATION WHICH THEY GET AN
ADDITIONAL FINE.
HAVING SAID THAT WE THINK THERE
ARE SOME VALUE TO AN ONLINE
ADJUDICATION FOR OUR CLIENTS WE
DO THINK THE POTENTIALLY IT
WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WHO DON'T APPEAR. WE
THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD WE
THINK IT MIGHT REDUCE THE
OVERALL AMOUNT OF FINES THAT
PEOPLE ARE SUBJECTED TO. HOWEVER
THAT PEACE THAT WE THINK COULD
BE DONE IN A PILOT BUT THE
ACROSS THE BOARD REDUCTIONS AND
THE PAYMENT STANDARDS WE WOULD
ARGUE SHOULD BE APPLIED AND
GIVEN TO ALL LOW INCOME
CALIFORNIANS BECAUSE REALLY WE
DON'T NEED TO PILOT THE FACT
THEY CAN'T AFFORD THESE. AYE
BECAUSE NOW THANK YOU.
I INGRAM ACLU OF CALIFORNIA
MICHAEL COMMENTS WITH THE
WESTERN CENTER AND STRONGLY AGO
THAT WE DON'T NEED THE PILOT AND
THE REDUCTION OF FEES AMNESTY
HELP GET TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND
DRIVERS.
THERE LICENSE BACK THAT WAS AN
EIGHTY PERCENT REDUCTION AND WE
THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE
THE BENEFIT OF THAT STARTING
TODAY. SO THERE WHEN THIS PILOT
GOES INTO STATE WIDE. SO THAT
THEY CAN GET THE BENEFIT AND
MAKE SURE THAT THE PAYMENT PLANS
ARE OFFERED AFTER THOSE
REDUCTIONS. KEEP THEM ON THE
PAST TO PAY OFF THAT DEBT AND
AREN'T SETTING THEMSELVES UP TO
FAIL PAYMENTS THAT ARE TOO HIGH.
AND WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE
CLEARANCE OF FAILURE TO A PET.
FAILURE TO APPEAR DRIVERS
LICENSE THROUGH THE ONLINE
PROCESS.
BECAUSE DRIVERS LICENSE
SUSPENSIONS AS WE KNOW HAVE REAL
WORLD CONSEQUENCES THANK YOU.
M. SHARE HONORABLE MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. OF MY NAME'S KEEP
WORST IRMA DIRECTING ATTORNEY
WITH THE LAWYERS COMMITTEE FOR
CIVIL RIGHTS OF THE SAN
FRANCISCO BAY AREA AND I SUPPORT
THE PRIOR COMMENTS THAT WERE
MADE AS WELL.
AS PART OF THE ADVOCACY OF
LAWYERS COMMITTEE WITHIN WORKING
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
THE REDUCE THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS
OF THE HIGH COST OF FINES AND
FEES.
FOR LOW INCOME CALIFORNIANS.
CALIFORNIA HAS THE HIGHEST
TRAFFIC FINES AND FEES IN THE
COUNTRY.
AND IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THE
LEGISLATURE'S AWARE OF. WILL
DILIGENTLY JUST BEEN WORKING ON
THIS FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS TO
REDUCE TRAFFIC FINES AND FEES.
I KNOW THERE BEEN AT LEAST TEN
SEPARATE BILLS TO ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE INCLUDING STATEWIDE
AMNESTY PROGRAM WHICH WAS JUST
MENTION.
OUR THE LAWYERS COMMITTEE AND
ITS COALITION PARTNERS OF ISSUE
THREE STATEWIDE REPORTS.
ABOUT THE HARMS CAUSED BY HUGE
CHORDETTES TO CALIFORNIA WORKING
FAMILIES.
WE APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF THE
JUDICIAL COUNCIL AND THEIR
ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE. AND ITS
COMMITMENT TO SOLVING THIS
PROBLEM.
BUT WE THINK THAT THE PILOT YOU
GO FURTHER.
AND THAT THE LEGISLATURE MUST
PROVIDE STANDARDS FOR FINES AND
FEES REDUCTIONS.
IT'S UP TO THE LEGISLATURE TO
SET. FAIR FINES AND FEES.
THE PROPOSED PILOT WOULD GIVE
TOTAL DISCRETION TO THE COURTS
TO SET THE FINES WITH NO
GUIDELINES TO CREATE EQUITY.
IN ADDRESSING FINES AND FEES
ACROSS THE COUNTIES.
IT'S TIME TO REDUCE THESE FINES
AND FEES THAT A BALLOON TO TWICE
WHAT THE REASONABLY SHOULD BE.
PARTICULARLY FOR LOW INCOME
CALIFORNIANS.
WE ENCOURAGE THE COMMITTEE TO
REDUCE EXISTING AND FUTURE
TRAFFIC DEBT BY EIGHTY PERCENT.
FOR ALL LOW INCOME CALIFORNIANS.
TO ESTABLISH MONTHLY PAYMENT
PLANS WITH PAYMENTS AT NO MORE
THAN FIVE PERCENT OF A PERSON'S
INCOME.
TWO REQUIRE THE COURTS TO
REINSTATE SUSPENDED LICENSE ONCE
A PERSON MAKES A COURT
APPEARANCE.
WHERE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A
CRITICAL ISSUE OFTEN LIFE
CHANGING?
ONE FOR MANY CALIFORNIANS
PARTICULARLY THOSE IN NEEDS.
AND WE THINK THAT CREATING A
STATEWIDE STANDARD THAT REDUCES
THE HIGH COST OF TRAFFIC FINES
AND FEES.
WOULD ALLOW CALIFORNIANS HAVE
EQUITABLE ACCESS TO JUST.
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON OIL BOTTOM OF
CALIFORNIA RURAL LEGAL
ASSISTANCE FOUNDATION AYE LINE
MY COMMENTS WIH THE PRIORS.
PRESENTERS AND ALSO ADD THAT IN
OUR RURAL COMMUNITIES IN
ADDITIONAL BARRIER PRESENTS
ITSELF AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH
LANGUAGE ACCESS. MANY OF OUR.
COMMUNITIES AND OUR RESIDENTS I
SPEAK A LANGUAGE OTHER THAN
ENGLISH SO WE NEED TO BE
RECOGNIZE THAT THAT EXISTS AND
THAT ALSO THE ACCESS TO THE
INTERNET PRESENTS A PROBLEM OUR
RURAL COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE
IS.
REALLY EXPENSIVE ACCESS OR NOT
AT ALL AND SO TO ACCESS THE USE
ONLINE PRESENTS THESE TWO
ADDITIONAL BARRIERS SO THOSE ARE
MY CONCERNS. NOW LYING THAT
ALONG WITH THE ABILITY TO PAY
FOR OUR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES
MANY OF WHICH.
BECAUSE LANGUAGE OTHER THAN
ENGLISH AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME TODAY THANK YOU.
SEVEN ANDERSON ON BEHALF OF THE
SILICON VALLEY COMMUNITY
FOUNDATION WE WOULD SIMPLY
ELANOR COMMENTS WITH US FROM THE
WESTERN CENTER THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
I KNOW YOU'RE THE COMMENTS ON
THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
BENJAMIN WAS PAT RAN WITH AARON
READING ASSOCIATES REPEALING THE
ORANGE COUNTY EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION THANK YOU FOR THE
TIME SORRY OPEN ANOTHER
COMMITTEE. GOING TO INITIAL
BRANCH BUDGET RIBBON AT THE
ORANGE COUNTY EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION THEIR PRESENT. THAT
COURT EMPLOYEES IN ORANGE COUNTY
ARE THE COURT REPORTERS IN
ORANGE COUNTY THEIR HOURS HAVE
BEEN CUT BACK TO THIRTY FIVE
HOURS A WEEK.
THOSE DONE FOR TWO REASONS.
.
TO SAVE MONEY.
THE OTHER WAYS TO SAVE MONEY ON
THE HEALTH CARE BECAUSE OTHER
CONSIDERED PART TIME EMPLOYEES
AND THEY HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR
THE HEALTH CARE.
THE OTHER.
AFFECT THAT HOUSES THAT IN
ORANGE COUNTY.
THE COURTS CLOSE EARLY PERRY
THAT'S A HARD THIRTY FIVE HOURS.
SO ONCE THE OUR COURT REPORTER
REACHES A THIRTY FIVE HOUR.
CAP ON THEIR TIME AYE THE JUDGE
SAID WITH WHAT THE COURT
REPORTER GO IN THE CLOSE COURT.
.
THE WITNESS THE DOCTOR ON THE
STAND WHO HAD TO REARRANGE HIS
SCHEDULE THAT THAT FRIDAY OR
THAT THERE IS THERE WHENEVER.
IS SITTING THERE BEGGING THE
COURT REPORTER TO STAY.
NOT MAKING THE JUDGE MAKING THE
COURT REPORTER.
.
THE ACCESS TO JUDGES JUSTICE IS
DENIED.
ONCE THE COURTS CLOSE TO CLOSE
THE DOORS NO ONE CAN GET IN A
PIECE OFFICE CAN'T GET WALKED
THROUGH WORDS.
A IN FOR A JUDGE TO SIGN THE
JUDGES ARE GONE. THEY HAVE ONE
JUDGE ON DUTY.
DECIDED HERE SHE MAY LIVE NOT
AN ORANGE COUNTY BUT IN SAN
DIEGO RIVERSIDE OR WHATEVER THEN
THEY HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN TO GET
THE WARRANT SIGNED IF THEY CAN.
ARM IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
SEVENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS
RETURN.
TO THE INDIVIDUAL COURTS FOR
THEM TO SPEND ON THEIR NEEDS
ARE.
NOT.
BOB. RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE
COMMISSION THE FEATURES OF THE
COURT THIS IS A DOCUMENT IT'S
RATHER LENGTHY ON THEIR LOT OF
RECOMMENDATIONS WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT
SEVENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS ON.
ON IT MAY BE ON THINGS THAT.
WE DON'T NEED AN ORANGE COUNTY
NO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS
ISN'T TO. INCREASE THE HOURS OF
THAT COURT REPORTERS BACK TO.
THE FORTY HOURS SO THAT WITH
THAT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
AND SHARE MEMBERS MIKE WE DON'T
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION ALSO
WHEN SPEAK WHEN I ISSUE EIGHTEEN
THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE
AND APOLOGIZE FOR MY TARDINESS.
WE SUPPORT THE GOVERNOR'S A
PROPOSAL FOR SEVEN FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS OVER THE ALLOCATION
THROUGH.
THE COURTS HOWEVER WE TO FEEL
THAT.
ILL BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO
ALLOW THOSE FUNDS BE ALLOCATED
BY THE COURTS AND.
INSTEAD OF.
INSTEAD OF ALLOWING THE INSTEAD
OF A THIRD YOU DISCOUNT TOOLS A.
DETERMINATIONS FOR PRIORITIES
BASE OF RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY
BY THE COMMISSION ON THE FUTURE
OF COURTS.
THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT SO. I'M.
I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THE.
VIOLET PRETTY WELL WERE
OBVIOUSLY GONNA.
WILL BE A LITTLE MORE WORK DONE
ON THAT ONE. AND NOW WE'RE GONNA
MOVE TO ITEM OR ISSUE TWENTY THE
SELF HELP CENTERS IN THE TRIAL
COURT'S.
YES MADAM CHAIR THIS IS BEEN
DISCUSSED A BIT IN IN THE PRIOR.
DISCUSSION OF THE CHEESE BUDGET
PRIORITIES BOTH BY EGGMAN
AND GEORGE LUCAS AND.
DIRECTOR ON BRAKES YOU KNOW BUT
IT IT DIDN'T SPECIFICS ARMS GIVE
YOU BIT MORE BACKGROUND SO THAT.
THERE'S A NINETEEN POINT ONE
MILLION DOLLAR AUGMENTATION IN
EIGHTEEN NINETEEN TO IMPLEMENT
OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE THEIR
COMMISSION THE JUSTICE.
THE CHIEF JUSTICE COMMISSION
FEATURES.
REGARDING SELF REPRESENTED
LITIGANTS
THE FUNDS WOULD BE USED TO
EXPAND THE AVAILABILITY THE
ATTORNEYS AND PARALEGALS STAFF
ITSELF OF SINNERS ENTROPIC
WARTS.
WOULD ALLOW COURTS TO ADDRESS
CRITICAL UNMET NEEDS IN FAMILY
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AS WELL AS US
CIVIL CASES SUCH AS LANDLORD
TENANT CONSUMER DATA. EMPLOYMENT
LAW AND SMALL CLAIMS OR IS OFTEN
NO ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE.
M. WITH THIS AUGMENTATION IN THE
EXISTING BUDGET OF ELEVEN POINT
TWO MILLION DOLLARS IT'S
ESTIMATED THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE
TO SERVE APPROXIMATELY A
MILLION.
MILLION FOLKS WHO NEED THE
SERVICES AND ALLOW THEM TO
SETTLE THE CASES AND RESOLVE THE
LEGAL PROBLEMS WITHOUT HAVING TO
APPEAR BEFORE A JUDGE.
WE GO WE APPRECIATE THAT THE
SUPPORT OF THE OF THE PROPOSAL.
THAT WAS IN THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET AND.
FORTY OR QUESTIONS.
OKAY SO I KNOW THE LA JOH.
HAD.
.
SOME RECOMMENDATIONS
YOU WANT A DETAILED AS.
WE RECOMMEND.
WE RECOMMEND A LEGISLATURE
DIRECT JUDICIAL COUNCIL TO
CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT COST
BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF THESE TYPES%
OF SERVICES. ON A TWO THOUSAND
NINE LIMITED SCOPE TYPE ANALYSIS
TO SUGGEST THAT THERE IS BOTH
BENEFITS THAT.
THE STATE COULD OCCUR WALL
IMPROVING ACCESS TO MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC IS A HAVING A
RIGOROUS ANALYSIS WOULD REALLY
HELP THE STATE FIGURE OUT THE
TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S
NEEDED. HOW TO TARGET THE
FUNDING TO MAXIMIZE BOTH STATE
AND PUBLIC BENEFIT AND WHETHER
OR NOT THERE ARE OTHER AREAS
WHERE FUNDING ALLOCATIONS MIGHT
NEED TO BE ADJUSTED TO ACCOUNT
FOR SOME OF THE SAVINGS?
SO UNTIL THEN OFFICES COMPLETE
IT DOES SEEM REASONABLE TO
PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF FUNDING
BECAUSE THE COURTS HAVE REPORTED
TURNING AWAY INDIVIDUALS WERE
SEEKING ASSISTANCE.
THESE ACT AMOUNTS TO PROVIDE
WOULD DEPEND ON LEGISLATIVE
PRIORITIES FOR THE GENERAL FUND
AND FOR THE COURTS AND SO FOR
EXAMPLE. THE LEGISLATURE IN
PROVIDING FUNDING FOR SELF HELP
MIGHT WANT TO TARGET FUNDING TO
ENSURE THAT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF
SERVICES PROVIDED IN CERTAIN
ISSUE AREAS ACROSS ALL OF THE
TRIAL COURT'S.
OR THEY MIGHT WANT TO DIRECT A
PORTION TO BE USED AT THE
STATEWIDE LEVEL FOR PRODUCTS AND
PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT CAN
BE DEPLOYED STATEWIDE. AND
ASSIST MORE INDIVIDUALS.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY ARE
THOUGHT IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING
IN REGARDS TO THE PROPOSED
BUDGET BILL LANGUAGE WE DO
RECOMMEND APPROVAL BECAUSE IT
WOULD INCREASE OF ACCOUNTABLE
USE OVER THESE DOLLARS.
THE WAY THE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN
NOW FEELS ADEQUATE TERMS OF THE
ACCOUNTABILITY FACTORS.
IT IT.
IT'S FILAS THE DOLLAR
SPECIFICALLY FOR SERVICES TO
SELF REPRESENTED LITIGANTS TO
THE EXTENT THAT THE LEGISLATURE
WANTS THE FUNDING TO BE USED IN
PARTICULAR WAYS. THE FUN THAT
LANGUAGE CERTAINLY COULD BE
ADJUSTED TO REFLECT THAT.
BIRD BRAIN IT'S YOU TO
EVERYTHING YOU IN DOWN ON IT.
YES REGARDING THE LA THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS ALTHOUGH WE DO
RECOGNIZE THAT THERE MAY BE
VALUE IN THE RECOMMENDED COST
BENEFIT ANALYSIS. THAT THERE
WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL NEED FOR
RESOURCES IN ORDER TO CONDUCT
SECTION ANALYSIS AND WE WOULD
OBJECT TO. USING ANY OF THE
FUNDING IN THE NINETEEN POINT
ONE FOR THAT PURPOSE GIVEN THAT
IT IS. NOT DIRECTLY BENEFICIAL
TO THE COURTS
AND AS I MISS LEE MENTIONED WE
DID PROPOSED BUDGET BILL
LANGUAGE WITH THIS ITEM.
IT SPECIFIES THAT THE FULL
AMOUNT TO BE PROVIDED FOR SELF
HELP SERVICES AS MENTIONED THAT
ALSO APPLIES NOT ONLY TO
NINETEEN POINT ONE BUT THE FULL
AMOUNT OF. SELF HELP FUNDING
WHICH WILL BE THIRTY POINT THREE
WITH US NINETEEN PINT ONE
MILLION DOLLAR AUGMENTATION.
AND REGARDING.
THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS BE
LIMITED TERM FOR YOUR LIMITED
TERM FUNDING WE DO FEEL THAT THE
NEED FOR SELF HELP SUBSTANTIATES
ONGOING INVESTMENT. FOUR POINT
THREE MILLION CALIFORNIANS COME
TO COURT AS SELF REPRESENTED
LITIGANTS EVERY YEAR. INCLUDING
NINETY PERCENT OF LITIGANTS IN
FAMILY LAW CASES NINETY PERCENT
OF TENANTS AND EVICTION CASES.
AND IN SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF
CIVIL CASES AT LEAST ONE PARTY
AS A SELF REPRESENTED LITIGANTS.
AND THEREFORE WE DO BELIEVE THAT
THERE IS A A MERIT THEIR FOREIGN
ONGOING INVESTMENT.
THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THIS ITEM.
RIGHT SO WHAT I TAKE FROM.
DIFFERENT FINANCES IF THE
LEGISLATURE WANTS TO DO THE COST
BENEFIT ANALYSIS IT WOULD HAVE
TO BE RECOMMENDING AN
ADDITIONAL.
ALLOCATION.
.
BEYOND THE NINETEEN POINT ONE
THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY FOR THE.
SELF HELP.
CORRECT
OKAY.
ALRIGHT SO WERE HOLDING OPEN.
AND WE'RE NOW GOING TO.
.
WEB PORTAL SPRING WOULD THIS IS
PRETTY SIMILAR RATE THE ISSUE
TWENTY ONE THE SELF IS MATTI'M
SHOULD LET AGAINST E. SERVICES
WEB PORTAL COURAGE. AND AND AND
IT IS VERY COMPLIMENTARY TO THE.
ORIGINAL ON GOVERNOR'S BUDGET
PROPOSAL JUST WITH FROM A TIMING
PERSPECTIVE.
THE TWO ISSUES CAME AT DIFFERENT
TIMES TO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND
SO DOES.
VISIT QUESTION AS TO WHY THEY
WEREN'T.
PROPOSED IN JANUARY
SYSTEMATICALLY ARE GETTING A
BUDGET PROPOSALS THROUGH TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE IN THAT
PROCESS BUT WITH THAT SAID YES
THIS IS.
AB AND ENHANCEMENT A
COMPLIMENTARY HONEST THIS ONE
NECESSARY FOR THE PREVIOUS
SERRANO. NECESSARY THAT THE
COMPLEMENTARY THE. THE FIRST ONE
IS AN ISSUE OF IN COURT STAFF TO
PROVIDE THE SERVICE.
AND AS WE TALK ABOUT AND CENTER
BELL TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN
BECOME MORE EFFICIENT AND AND
AND HELP MORE INDIVIDUALS THINK
WHAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT
WE'RE NOW HAVING PROPOSING AN
ONLINE PRESENCE. THAT CAN
COORDINATE ACROSS THE STATE.
THIS A PORTAL TO SELF HELP
SERVICES SO THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T
HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MISS A GOING
TO THE COURT AT FIRST THEY CAN
DID THEY EXAMINE WHAT THEY CAN
DO BEFORE THEY'VE NEVER ARRIVE A
COURT. AND THEN SEE IF THEY CAN
THEN LEVERAGE THE RESOURCES THAT
ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COURTHOUSE.
TO ADJUDICATE EDUCATE THEIR CASE
AND MAYBE NEVER HAVE THE GOING
TO COURT IF THEY CAN HANDLE IT.
THROUGH THE ONLINE PORTAL.
pDISABILITY QUESTIONS BUT JUST
DID WANTED THEM GIVE YOU JUST A
LITTLE BIT MORE OF SORT OF
FLAVOR ABOUT THIS AND WHY IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR US.
IF I MAKE IT ALRIGHT I'M SO THAT
THE PROPOSED DOUG E. PORTAL WILL
PROVIDE CONFERENCE WITH THAT THE
CENTRAL ONE STOP SHOP FOR LEGAL
PROCEDURE INFORMATION.
TO BETTER PREPARE AND EDUCATE
CORE USERS
I WILL INTEGRATE WITH THE TRIAL
COURTS ACROSS THE STATE TO
STATE.
PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY TO THE
TRIAL COURT SITES
BECAUSE SOME COURTS ALREADY HAVE
THOSE ONLINE PRESENCE ENABLE
SITE VISITORS TO CONDUCT
DOCUMENT ASSEMBLY WHICH IS
IMPORTANT. BECAUSE MANY TIMES
THAT THE DOCUMENTS CAN BE
OVERWHELMING TO SOMEONE WHO
DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL
SYSTEM. E. FILING AS WELL WHICH
IS SOMETHING THAT THIS
LEGISLATURE APPROVED LAST YEAR.
WHICH IS IT ALL AGAIN ANOTHER
IMPORTANT HAND SMIT.
IS THAT ANOTHER DELAY THE LA WAS
PROVIDED SOME QUESTIONS WERE
WORKING WITH THEM ON THOSE
RESPONSES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE AND THEM.
INSTEAD THE RECOMMENDATIONS HOLD
OPEN BUT AND WE'RE HERE TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO WHAT'S THE NUMBER S. MAY
NEVER PEOPLE WHO WOULD USE THIS
SERVICE AND IS IT THE SAME WOULD
GO TO THE SELF HELP CENTERS.
BIG THE COULD BE AT THEIR FIRST
STOP AND ON ANOTHER NTE WE HAD
ESTIMATES HAVE BEEN STAFF HERE
MODULATE WHO MIGHT HAVE SOME
DETAIL BUT IN TERMS OF IT COULD
BE THE FIRST STOP.
AND THAT BECAUSE IN SOME CASES
THE LACK OF AWARENESS OF SELF
HELP SERVICES KEEP SOMEONE FROM
EVEN ACCESSING AND CONSIDERING
ABOUT TAKING THEIR CASE TO
COURT.
AND SO THE ONLINE PRESENCE WOULD
GIVE SOMEBODY AN OPPORTUNITY
START THAT PROCESS
AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY
CAN'T FIND THEIR ANSWERS THERE
THEY MAY NECESSITATE THE NEED TO
GO IN A COULD. I AM POSSIBLY
REDUCE TO NEED LOOK AT ALSO
COULD THEN GENERATE MORE FOOT
TRAFFIC IN THE IN THE SELF HELP
CENTERS OF THE COURT. SO THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT
IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT BUT
THAT'S WHAT'S COMPLIMENTARY
BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S ANOTHER WAY
TO MODERNIZE THE BRANCH AND
PROVIDE A NEW WAY TO ACCESS. THE
THE COURTS.
YOUR HONOR I WOULD JUST ECHO
THAT AND TO SAY THAT THEM THE
WAY THAT WE'VE MENTIONED EARLIER
THE WAY THE PEOPLE DOING
BUSINESS TODAY.
BUYING THEIR AIRLINE TICKETS
ONLINE DOING THEIR BANKING
ONLINE. THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE
IN CALIFORNIA EXPECTING TO DO
THE SAME KIND OF BASIC. BUSINESS
FUNCTIONS WITH THE COURTS THOSE
ONLINE PORTAL WILL BE THERE'S A
HUGE CUSTOMER SERVICE LEFT.
TO GIVE MORE ACCESS TO THE
COURTS BECAUSE TODAY. TO GET AND
I EVEN A SIMPLE ANSWER YOU
LITERALLY HAVE TO DO TO GET IN
YOUR CAR. DRIVE TO THE COURT
PARK STAND IN LINE AND AND WAIT
FOR AN ANSWER WE'RE HOPING
MITIGATE THAT AND DELIVER THOSE
ANSWERS ONLINE.
VERY NON.
OR DOES NOT HERE BUT THAT WAS A
QUESTION I HAD SO.
.
THIS YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW SENATOR BILL IF YOU
HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT THE SELF
HELP.
AND. IT'S OKAY YOU DON'T LIKE
WHERE'S OKAY GOOD. ACTORS SO ANY
AYE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS SIZE
THE FOR THE.
YEAH.
PHONE COMMENT ON THIS ONE.
OKAY. SO WE WILL NOW MOVE TO.
IF YOU TWENTY THREE THE COUNTY
LAW LIBRARIES.
AND MY OWN GUY.
THEN A CARTOONIST.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR HAND
SENATOR BILL. THE THINK YOU FOR
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU
TODAY ABOUT ACCESS TO JUSTICE IN
CALIFORNIA.
I'M SANDY LEVIN I'M THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF OS
ANGELES COUNTY LAW LIBRARY.
A HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN YEARS
AGO CALIFORNIA HAD THE FORESIGHT
IN THE LEADERSHIP.
TO BE THE FIRST STATE IN THE
COUNTRY TO ESTABLISH FREE PUBLIC
ACCESS TO LEGAL INFORMATION BY
AUTHORIZING COUNTY LAW
LIBRARIES.
MOST OF THE REST OF THE COUNTRY
FOLLOWED SUIT.
UNFORTUNATELY THOUGH IN THE LAST
DECADE CALIFORNIA'S COMMITMENT
TO THIS IDEAL HAS WANED.
FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN
YEARS WE'VE BEEN FUNDED BY A
SMALL PORTION OF CIVIL FILING
FEES.
WITH THE ADOPTION OF UNIFORM
CIVIL FILING FEE ACT THOUGH THE
STATE ELIMINATED ANY LOCAL
CONTROL OVER THOSE REVENUES AS
OF TWO THOUSAND EIGHT.
AT THE SAME TIME THOUGH THE
LEGISLATURE ESTABLISHED A TASK
FORCE ON CIVIL FINE FEES WHICH
FOUND AND I QUOTE.
WITHOUT IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION
OF A FILING FEE INCREASE OR
IDENTIFICATION OF ALTERNATIVE
REVENUE SOURCES LAW LIBRARIES
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FUND THEIR
INCREASED OPERATING COSTS IN TWO
THOUSAND EIGHT.
A DECADE HAS GONE BY AND WE HAVE
NOT RECEIVED ANY FILING FEE
INCREASE OR ANY ALTERNATIVE
REVENUE SOURCE.
IN FACT OUR FUNDING HAS
DECREASED BY ALMOST FORTY
PERCENT SINCE THEN.
WITH MORE PEOPLE GOING TO
ALTERNATIVE DISPUTE RESOLUTION
MORE PEOPLE GETTING FEE
WAIVERS-AND THE EXPANSION OF
SMALL
CLAIMS COURT JURISDICTION FILING
FEES FOR COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES
HAVE PLUMMETED.
THIS IS A PROBLEM IN THIS IS A
PROBLEM THAT AFFECTS THE LIVES
OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
PROBABLY THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO
MAKE THAT POINT WOULD BE TO TELL
YOU SOME OF THE STORIES THAT WE
HEAR A COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES BUT
I WANT TO BE RESPECTED OF YOUR
TIME.
SO LET ME JUST SAY.
THAN HALF A MILLION TIMES EACH
YEAR SOMEONE WALKS INTO A COUNTY
LAW LIBRARY IN CALIFORNIA WITH
THEIR OWN UNIQUE AND OFTEN
DESPERATE STORY.
HALF A MILLION TIMES.
PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR THE SAFETY
OF THEIR CHILDREN OR
GRANDCHILDREN.
PEOPLE PANICKING BECAUSE THE
ORDER EVICTING THEM IS THE FIRST
TIME THEY EVER EVEN HEARD THERE
WAS A LAWSUIT.
PEOPLE FENDING FOR THEMSELVES
WITHOUT COUNSEL IN DEPORTATION
PROCEEDINGS AGAINST EXPERIENCED
GOVERNMENT ATTORNEYS.
PEOPLE TRYING TO START A
BUSINESS OR TRANSFER REAL
PROPERTY OR COLLECT ON THEIR
INSURANCE.
PEOPLE GRIEVING OVER THE LOSS OF
A LOVED ONE WHO THEY CAN'T LATER
REST BECAUSE OF LEGAL
TECHNICALITIES THEY JUST DON'T
UNDERSTAND.
PEOPLE APPEARING TIME AFTER TIME
AFTER TIME IN COURT
ACCOMPLISHING NOTHING BECAUSE
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE
PROCESS.
PEOPLE WHO JUST NEED A LITTLE
BIT OF HELP AND SUPPORT TO FIND
THEIR WAY.
WE DO OUR BEST TO HELP THEM.
THOSE OF US WHO ARE STILL
MANAGING TO KEEP OUR DOORS OPEN
DO OUR BEST.
DESPITE.
HAVING LOST ALMOST FORTY PERCENT
OF OUR FUNDING.
DESPITE SHORTENED HOURS THEN
CLOSED BRANCHES.
DESPITE WORKING WITHOUT OF DATE
MATERIALS. DESPITE SHORT
STAFFING AND ROOF LEAKS AND OLD
EQUIPMENT EVERY OTHER CHALLENGE
YOU CAN IMAGINE.
WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO YOUR BEST
TO ENSURE COUNTY LAW LIBRARY
STAY OPEN FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS
AND IT DOESN'T COST A LOT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR
ATTORNEYS FOR EVERYONE. YOU
DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ANY NEW
INFRASTRUCTURE YOU DON'T HAVE TO
INVENT ANY NEW PROGRAMS WE'RE
ALREADY HERE. AND WE'RE READY TO
DO THE WORK.
WE'RE ASKING FOR SIXTEEN AND A
HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO BE
SHARED AMONG ALL THE COUNTY LAW
LIBRARIES IN THE STATE.
TO ASSURE THAT CALIFORNIANS HAVE
ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND ACCESS
TO JUSTICE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU CENTER FELT.
WHEN I SAW OTHERS.
.
IT'S A ONE TIME ALLOCATION THOSE
KINDA CURIOUS OF WHY. YOU IT'S
KIND OF A NAME THAT'S VALUES.
YEAH IT'S A ONE TIME BUT YOU
KNOW YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO PILOT
PROJECTS CAN BE ONGOING WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS.
REALLY ONGOING EXPENSES CORRECT.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONGOING
FUNDING HOWEVER THE CRISIS THAT
WE'RE IN AT THE MOMENT. IS THAT
COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES ARE CLOSING
THEIR SHORTENING HOURS THEIR
CLOSING BRANCHES THE CLOTHES ON
THEIR DOORS ALTOGETHER AND
SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.
IMMEDIATELY IT'S BEEN A DECADE
SINCE.
BUT TASK FORCE SAID AN ONGOING
FUNDING SOURCE NEEDS TO BE
FOUND.
AND DESPITE OUR.
THE ADVOCACY DESPITE OUR REQUEST
WE ARE NOT THERE AT THE MOMENT.
WE NEED AT LEAST A ONE TIME
FUNDING.
ALLOCATION SO THAT WE CAN STAY
OPEN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE
LONG TERM SOURCE OF REVENUE
SHOULD BE FOR COUNTY LAW
LIBRARIES WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE
A LONG TERM ALLOCATION. BUT WE
ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS
PARTICULAR YEAR THERE'S ONE TIME
MONEY THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE
AND THE COST OF CLOSING COUNTY
LAW LIBRARIES OR REDUCING
COLLECTIONS.
.
IS THAT ONCE YOU DO THAT IT'S
MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO REOPEN.
SO THIS ISN'T.
THIS ISN'T A CRISIS THAT WRITTEN
DELAY RESULTING.
YEAH I THINK THE COMMITTEE WILL
BE LOOKING AT. THAT ONLY BECAUSE
WE KNOW THAT A ONE TIME ONLY.
CERTAINLY WILL STOP THE CLOSURE
BUT BECAUSE THE FUNDING
AVAILABLE HAS BEEN DUE TO A DROP
IN THE CIVIL FINES WHICH WE.
IN GIVEN THE TYPES OF
DISCUSSIONS WERE HAVING AROUND
THAT WE DON'T EXPECT NECESSARILY
TO HAVE.
HEALTHY OR I DON'T MEAN HEALTHY
WE DON'T NECESSARILY EXPECT TO
HAVE.
REVENUE INCREASES IN OUR FEES
AND FINES.
HOT RIGHT JUST BECAUSE WE
WOULDN'T EXPECT SO.
.
SO WE MAY.
ONE EXPLORE BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN
WE HEAR IT AGAIN.
OH WHAT AMOUNT TO MAKE ONGOING.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF.
COUNTIES HAVE LIBRARY SYSTEMS IS
THERE.
AS EVER TALKED ABOUT. THE COUNTY
OF LAW LIBRARIES JOINING.
.
COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM.
THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD
COLLABORATION ON SAY THE HONEY
LOW LIBRARIES AND THE COUNTY
LIBRARY SYSTEMS. COUNTY
LIBRARIES ARE TO QUIPPED WITH
SIDE OF THE LEGAL COLLECTIONS OR
THE LEGAL EXPERTISE BUT. WE DO
CROSS TRAIN WHENEVER WE CAN WE
ALSO. A MANY OF US HAVE
PARTNERSHIPS WHERE WE WILL SEND
A LAW LIBRARIAN ON OCCASION TO.
INTO A COUNTY LIBRARY OR.
PRESENT A PROGRAM AT A COUNTY
LIBRARY BUT IN GENERAL THE
COLLECTIONS AND THE EXPERTISE
THAT'S INVOLVED FOR THE STAFF IS
VERY DIFFERENT OKAY THANK YOU
KNOW AND UNDERSERVED LOOKIN AT.
FLOORING OUR OPTIONS IF YOU I
SAID IT THAT WAY WE HAVE TO KIND
OF LOOK AT ALL THESE.
MAYBE.
OUT OF THE BOX
GOT A PROBLEM YOU KNOW IDEAS
MIGHT EXIST OUT THERE.
WHITLEY WHERE WE'VE BEEN DOING
THAT FOR A DECADE AND WE WELCOME
ANY SUGGESTIONS OKAY. I DO WE
HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE
SIDE OF.
THERE'S A FEW OF THEM.
BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY.
LOOK AT.
GOOD AFTERNOON SENATORS.
I AM JOHN ADKINS AND THE
DIRECTOR OF THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY
LAW LIBRARY.
AND I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF
THE COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA COUNTY
OF LIBRARIANS.
I SUPPORT APPROVAL BECAUSE SAN
DIEGO'S LA LIBRARIANS EXPERIENCE
THE SAME DEVASTATING.
REVENUE LOSSES SAYS MOST OF ALL
THE OTHER CALIFORNIA LAW
LIBRARIES BUT.
AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR ALL THE
OTHER COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES AS
PRESIDENT.
ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO COULD NOT
BE HERE TODAY A I WANT TO POINT
OUT. THERE'S A CRUEL DISPARITY
IN ACCESS TO JUSTICE
BETWEEN THE COUNTIES IN OUR
STATE.
OF OUR FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES
TWENTY TWO OR NEARLY FORTY
PERCENT OF OFFICIALLY CLOSED
OR OPERATED ON A PART TIME
BASIS.
WITHOUT LOLLY PARENTS.
AND WHILE THIRTY SIX COUNTIES
REPORT HAVING AN OPERATIONAL LAW
LIBRARY TO ANY OF THESE ARE OPEN
ONLY PART TIME.
THAT LEAVES ONLY SIXTEEN.
AND A FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES.
ABOUT TWENTY FIVE PERCENT.
HAVING THE KIND OF SERVICES THE
LEGISLATURE INTENDED FOR ALL
COUNTIES
IN CALIFORNIA.
AND IF NOTHING IS DONE THAT
NUMBER SURELY WILL BE WENDLING
EVEN MORE.
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS JAN SCHMIDT AND I'M
THE DIRECTOR OF THE STANISLAUS
COUNTY LAW LIBRARY. LIKE THE
OTHERS BEHIND ME WE SEE
THOUSANDS OF PATRONS EVERY YEAR
WHO HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ACCESS TO
LEGAL INFORMATION. OUTSIDE OF
THE FOUR WALLS OF OUR BUILDING.
BUT WHAT YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW IS
THESE ARE NOT JUST COURT
LITIGANTS OR KURT PARTICIPANTS
MANY OF THESE PATRONS WILL NEVER
SEE THE COURT SYSTEM.
THERE LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENTS
WITH QUESTIONS AND FEARS ABOUT
THEIR LEGAL STATUS
VERY SMALL BUSINESSES WITH NO
MEANS FOR AN ATTORNEY FACING
SERIOUS LEGAL ISSUES SUCH AS.
ADA COMPLIANCE M. WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE AND WE ALSO SEE
FAMILIES WHO ARE TRYING TO DEAL
WITH LOSSES FROM BOTH NATURAL OR
CATASTROPHIC.
AND DAMAGES FROM THE FIRES IN
THE FLOODS.
THE FUNDING CRISIS ITSELF HAS
BEEN CATASTROPHIC TO MEETING
PATRON NEEDS
WE'VE CLOSER BRANCH ARE ONLY
BRANCH.
WE'VE CUT OUR STAFF WITH QUATRE
MATERIALS.
PLEASE HELP US KEEP OUR DOORS
OPEN SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO
HELP I SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON I'M CARRY ROWAN
AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE
CONTRA COSTA COUNTY PUBLIC LAW
LIBRARY.
OUR LIBRARY SERVES EVERYONE AS
ALL COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES DO WE
HAVE A HEAVY CONCENTRATION IN
OUR COUNTY OF SENIORS. OF
DISABLED PEOPLE. AND OF POOR
PEOPLE.
ON DURING THE LAST YEAR. WE HAD
TO CLOSE ONE OF OUR BRANCHES IN
EAST COUNTY. AND THIS BY MY
ESTIMATION OUR EAST COUNTY IS
MORE THAN THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND
PEOPLE.
SO THIS MEANS THAT IT IS VERY
DIFFICULT IF YOU'RE ELDERLY IF
YOU DON'T HAVE FUNDS IF YOU HAVE
ANY MOBILITY ISSUES IT'S NOW
DIFFICULT FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO
GET TO A COUNTY LAW LIBRARY
WHICH.
IS OFTEN THE ONLY WAY THEY HAVE
TO ACCESS JUSTICE.
THANK YOU.
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS ROGER COHEN
I'M DETRACTED A CYCLIC COUNTY
LAW LIBRARY. WOULD OPEN ON
SATURDAY SINCE NINETEEN EIGHTY
FIVE. RUSSIA WITH THE STOP
OPENING ON FERRIES BECAUSE THE
BUDGET REASONS.
THE LITTLE THIS LIMITED ACCESS
TO JUST WITH THE PEOPLE WHO
CAN'T MAKE IT A REGULAR WORK
WEEK DAY BECAUSE THAT THE WORK
THEIR DAILY JOBS.
ALSO SEEMED MORE IMMIGRATION
QUESTIONS BUT EVEN CHARGING TO
HELP THOSE WHO HAD TECH BECAUSE
WE'VE HAD TO CUT OFF FEDERAL
MATERIALS INCLUDING. OF
IMMIGRATION.
MATERIALS FIGARO MUCH.
I MEAN THAT HE THOUGHT THE KERN
COUNTY LAW LIBRARY. AND I'M
LAWLER RESTRICT VERY
COLLABORATIVE LEAVE WITH THE
SELF HELP CENTER. AND TO PROVIDE
ACCESS TO SERVICES THAT WOULD
NOT NORMALLY BE AVAILABLE. IN
OUR COUNTY IN KERN COUNTY WE ARE
CO LOCATED WITH THE SUB POP'S
HONOR.
HOWEVER THE LAW LIBRARY PROVIDE
SELF WITH CIVIL HARASSMENTS
PROBATE CONSERVATORSHIP UPS.
M. CRIMINAL EXPUNGEMENT MOTIONS
NAME CHANGES AND SEVERAL OF
OTHER CIVIL AND CRIMINAL
MATTERS.
AM SO THAT TOGETHER BY WORKING
COLLABORATIVELY WE CAN PROVIDE
TRULY PROVIDE EQUAL ACCESS.
THE JUSTICE IF LAW LIBRARIES FOR
TO CLOSE THE ROAD BE A LARGE AND
NUMBER. OF PUBLIC SELF
REPRESENTED LITIGANTS THAT WOULD
NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE EQUAL ACCESS
TO JUSTICE.
AND.
AND GET AFTERNOON RENEE ANDERSON
OF THE SERVICE EMPLOYEES
INTERNATIONAL UNION LOCAL SEVEN
TWENTY ONE REPRESENTING
EMPLOYEES AT THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY LAW LIBRARY I'M HERE ON
THEIR BEHALF. BECAUSE THOSE
EMPLOYEES TAKE SUCH PRIDE IN THE
WORK THAT THEY DO AT THE LOS
ANGELES LIVE HERE YOU JUST
WOULDN'T BELIEVE. AND WITH THE
RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE. THEM
WORK THAT THEY DO I'M ALSO HERE
TO SUPPORT ALL THE COUNTY LARA
LIBRARIES FOR THE WONDERFUL JOB
THAT ALL OF THEM HAS DONE TO
CONTINUE TO DO FOR THE
COMMUNITY.
SO I SUPPORT FUNDS TO THE COUNTY
LAW LIBRARIES THANK YOU HAVE A
GOOD EVENING.
GOOD AFTERNOON I'M MARK ESTES
THE DIRECTOR OF THE ALAMEDA
COUNTY LAW LIBRARY OPEN CAL.
COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES SERVE
EVERYONE.
REGARDLESS OF INCOME.
NATURE THE LEGAL ISSUE OR
LICENSED PROFESSIONAL LICENSE.
THE FISCAL CRISIS HIT ALAMEDA
COUNTY LIBRARY HARD.
WE HAD TO CLOSE OUR SOUTH COUNTY
BRANCH IN HAYWARD.
AND WE'VE SHORTENED HOURS.
THAT'S MEANT TRAVEL TIME
EXCESSIVELY DIFFICULT FOR
INDIVIDUALS.
WITH OUR SHARE OF THIS ONE TIME
AND WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE MORE AN ONGOING BASIS WE
WILL BE ABLE TO EXTEND THE
EVENING HOURS. AND CONTINUE ARE
PARTNERING EFFORTS WITH PUBLIC
LIBRARIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON I THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK.
I'M JOHN ZORBA'S THE DIRECTOR OF
THE BUTTE COUNTY LAW LIBRARIAN
OR.
I WORKED THERE TWENTY THREE
YEARS.
AND WE'VE DEVELOPED CLOSE TO
NINETEEN SUPERIOR COURT FORMS
THAT AREN'T AVAILABLE ANYWHERE
ELSE.
THESE FORMS HELP PATRONS WHO
DON'T HAVE LEGAL BACKGROUND WITH
STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS ON
HOW.
TO HANDLE SOME OF THE COMMON
RECURRING SUBJECTS.
OVERALL THOUGH.
I'VE NEVER SEEN AS SOON AS.
BAD SHAPE AS WE'D BEEN IN RECENT
YEARS.
THE NEEDS WE SEE YOUR GREATER
THAN OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE
SERVICE.
WE HAD TO.
TWO HUNDRED TITLES IN THE
LIBRARY WERE DOWN TO TWELVE. BUT
WE'VE GOT PEOPLE.
BUT OUR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CUT
BECAUSE OF LACK OF FUNDS TO
SUSTAIN.
PAYROLL.
THIS IS REDUCED RESULTED IN
REDUCED HOURS LONGER WAIT TIMES
OF LESS TIMES PER PERSON.
I HAVE BECAUSE OF MY HISTORY
SOME ABILITY TO RESPOND TO
SENATOR BILL'S COMMENTS ABOUT
PUBLIC LIBRARY SELF. BELT BILL
ABOUT BILL OPPOSED IT'S OVER
HERE MAKING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND. O. IS A VOTE FOR THE
EXCELLENT YEAH INCREASE IN
RESPONSE TO MY NEW.
CENTER.
IN RESPONSE TO TECHNOLOGY.
GREAT NUMBERS OF RURAL NORTHERN
CALIFORNIANS CAN'T USE THE
INTERNET.
I SPOKE AT A CONFERENCE AT THIS
CONFERENCE.
SPONSORED BY THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL IN TWO THOUSAND ON THE
CHANGING ROLES OF COURT CLERKS
AND COUNTY LAW LIBRARIANS.
MEMBER THE WONDERFUL TOOL THAT
JUDICIAL BRANCH.
POSTING THE ONLINE A FORMS.
AND BUT.
I THOUGHT WHAT A WONDERFUL TOOL
FOR QUIRK STEPH AND FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO HELP THE PUBLIC.
SO MUCH OF THE PUBLIC COULD NOT
ON THEIR OWN.
A ACCESS THIS.
WE HELP FOLKS TO DO THAT.
AND.
OF.
INVESTING MONEY IN COUNTY LAW
LIBRARIES.
IS A GOOD INVESTMENT IN
PROVIDING ACCESS TO JUSTICE FOR
FOR ALL. THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS STEPHANIE
CHAVEZ AND I'M DIRECTOR OF THE
YOLO COUNTY LAW LIBRARY. BECAUSE
OF OUR FUNDING CRISIS WE'VE HAD
TO CHOOSE BETWEEN STAFF IN HOURS
AND HONESTLY BOTH ARE
INSUFFICIENT.
OF WE'VE HAD.
WE HAVE FOUR HOURS THE DAY THAT
WERE OPEN AND WE STRUGGLE TO DO
THE BARE MINIMUM. A ADDITIONAL
FUNDING WOULD INCREASE HOURS AND
STAFF AND ALLOW US TO ESTABLISH
PARTNERSHIPS
AND WORKSHOPS WITH OUR COURTS
AND SELF HELP CENTERS.
VARIOUS COUNTY DEPARTMENTS
OFFER GREAT SERVICES BUT WE JUST
DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO
PARTNER WITH THEM.
AN INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR LAW
LIBRARIES WILL HELP THE MANY
MANY PEOPLE WILL NEVER BE ABLE
TO AFFORD AN ATTORNEY AND THE
LAW LIBRARY IS THEIR ONLY HOPE
GOOD AFTERNOON. OCT SENATORS
AND STAFF MEMBERS MY NAME'S
LARRY MAYER I AM THE DIRECTOR OF
THE LAW LIBRARY FOR SAN
BERNARDINO COUNTY. AS MOST OF
YOU PROBABLY KNOW WE HAVE AN
EXTREMELY LARGE AND VERY DIVERSE
CA COUNTY.
ARE AS THE COUNTY LAW LIBRARY
AND I TRIED A WE TRY TO DO OUR
BASS TO PROVIDE. AS MUCH A OF A
BROAD RANGE OF SERVICES AS WE
CAN AS WE CAN AFFORD TO DO. AYE
KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE GUIDE
NEEDS IN OUR COUNTY ARE
EXTREMELY GREAT A WHAT EXAMPLE
WE ACTUALLY PARTNER WITH THE
COURT AT ONE OF OUR BRANCHES WE
ACTUALLY HOST ONE DAY A WEEK THE
FAMILY HEALTH CENTER BECAUSE THE
FAMILY LAW COURT HOUSE IS NO
LONGER IN THAT PART. OF THE
COUNTY THAT PROVIDES ACCESS THAT
OTHERWISE THEY WOULD NOT HAY
OUT.
OF WHERE WE TO GET THE FUNDING.
WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE
THE SERVICES WE DO OUR WITH OUR
HA. HA OUR PATRONS POSSIBLY
EXPANDED THOSE MOST IMPORTANTLY
WE HAVE A LOT OF DEFERRED
MAINTENANCE THAT WE JUST HAVE
NOT BEEN ABLE TO.
I DO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE
FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO DO IT
THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS PETE
ROONEY I AM DIRECTOR OF THE
FRESNO COUNTY LAW LIBRARY. ARM.
AS.
MANY MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
SAID.
.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SUFFERED THE.
DRASTIC REDUCTION IN REVENUE FOR
US AND IT IS AFFECTED.
STAFF SIZE OUR COLLECTION AND
LIMITED THE SERVICES THAT WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR OUR
PATRONS.
ON.
SADLY THIS IS THE LIMITED THE
AREAS OF LAW THAT WE CAN ASSIST
THEM WITH. AND ALSO THE SERVICES
THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM IN
THESE CUTS HAVE DIRECTLY OF.
HOME.
IMPACTED THE ABILITY FOR US TO
HELP PATRONS
ACCESS EMPLOYMENT MAINTAIN A
ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS OR KEEP
THEIR FAMILIES TOGETHER.
FOR MANY OF OUR PATRONS WE HAVE
BECOME THE LAST AND ONLY SAFETY.
THESE.
COMMUNITIES.
AND THAT SAFETY NET IS FOR A.
ARMED WITH SOME NEW FUNDING.
FRESNO COUNTY HOPES TO. IMPROVE
THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE AVAILABLE
FOR OUR.
SELF HELP LITIGANTS.
.
PRODUCE AND DISTRIBUTE MORE
INSTRUCTIONAL IN. ON HOW TO
GUIDES AND HOPEFULLY IN CREWS
INCREASE THE ABILITY TO ASSIST
WITH.
ARM INTERNET ACCESS.
OTHER ONLINE
RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING
DEVELOPED BY THE COURTS.
THANK.
GOOD AFTERNOON I'M JONATHAN
WATSON LAW LIBRARIAN FOR SOLANO
COUNTY LAW LIBRARY.
I WANTED TO SHARE SOME
SCENARIOS.
I NEED TO GET GUARDIANSHIP OF MY
GRANDSON BECAUSE HE'S IN DANGER.
I NEED TO EVICT A TENANT BECAUSE
HE'S DESTROYING THE PROPERTY AND
SELLING DRUGS.
I NEED TO POSTPONE MY TRIAL
BECAUSE I'M HAVING SURGERY.
THESE ARE THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS
WE RECEIVE FROM LAY PERSONS WHO
HAVE TURNED TO LEGAL AID BUT
THEY CANNOT GET THE ASSISTANCE
THEY NEED BECAUSE OF SERVICE
LIMITATIONS.
THEY'RE TURNING TO OUR LAW
LIBRARY FOR HELP.
AND WE'RE ON THE VERGE OF
CLOSING THEIR DOORS UNLESS WE
CAN GET SOME FUNDING. I SUPPORT
THANK YOU.
BRIEFLY.
GOOD AFTERNOON I'M LAURIE PULSE
AND DIRECTOR OF THE MARIN COUNTY
LAW LIFE.
OUR LIBRARY IS SEEING A HIGH
PERCENTAGE OF RETIRED FOLKS AND
WOMEN SEEKING ASSISTANCE WITH
LANDLORD TENANT AND FAMILY LAW
MATTERS.
AS WELL AS VARIOUS CIVIL LAW
MATTERS.
MOST OF WHOM REPORT INCOMES OF
TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS PER MONTH
OR LESS.
THEY NEED HELP ACCESSING THE
APPROPRIATE RESOURCES THE
EXPLANATIONS ABOUT HOW TO USE
THOSE RESOURCES.
HOWEVER BUDGET CUTS HAVE REDUCED
THEIR OPERATING HOURS AND STAFF
DRAMATICALLY.
SO THE PATRONS MUST OFTEN WAIT
TO SPEAK TO A STAFF PERSON AND
THEN WHEN THEY DO.
STAFF PERSON HAS VERY LIMITED
AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEND WITH
EACH INDIVIDUAL PATRON.
THIS MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO
PROVIDE THE ASSISTANCE THAT MANY
PATRONS NEED.
I SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THAT AFTERNOON I AM DIANE
RODRIGUEZ ON THE ASSISTANT
DIRECTOR OF THE SAN FRANCISCO
LAW LIBRARY. SINCE TWO THOUSAND
AND EIGHT R. LIBRARY HAS HAD A
REDUCTION IN BUDGET OF OVER
FORTY FIVE PERCENT. AND THAT'S
RESULTED IN US CLOSING TWO
BRANCHES ONE WHICH WAS IN THE
COURTHOUSE AND ONE WHICH WAS
DOWNTOWN. THE WE'RE HAVING
TROUBLE REACHING EVERYONE WE
NEED TO RATES.
AND.
WE'VE ALSO SEEN A GREAT CHANGE
IN OUR PATRON BASE OVER THE
YEARS WHERE WE USED TO BE A
RESEARCH LIBRARY MAINLY FOR
ATTORNEYS WE'VE NOW SEEN AN
INFLUX OF SELF REPRESENTED
LITIGANTS HUNTING THE MAJORITY
OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN. AND IN
ORDER TO REACH THOSE PEOPLE IF
WE HAD A OF THEM MORE BUDGET WE
WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE OUR
REACH SERVICES SUCH AS REMOTE
LAW LIBRARIAN CLINICS.
AND I EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES
THROUGHOUT THE CITY ARM AND
TRYING TO REACH PEOPLE AND
EXPOSE EVERYONE TO THEIR LEGAL
RESOURCES THAT THEY CAN GET FOR
FREE THROUGH THE COUNTY LAW
LIBRARY.
I SUPPORT THANK YOU.
BUT AFTERNOON I'M MICHAEL COOPER
BET FROM THE COUNCIL OF
CALIFORNIA COUNTY LAW LIBRARIANS
I JUST WANNA POINT OUT TO THE
COMMITTEE THAT THE ONLY THINGS
STANDING BETWEEN.
ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS OR
OUTRIGHT CLOSURES IS AN
APPROPRIATION FROM THE STATE
LEGISLATURE.
COUNTY LAW LIBRARIES HAVE NO
AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER TO RAISE
MONEY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL THEY
HAVE NO TAXING AUTHORITY. AND
THEY HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITY TO
CHARGE FOR SERVICES.
IT WOULD INDEED TAKES AN
APPROPRIATION FROM THE
LEGISLATURE.
TO ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO
PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT THEY
DO. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS BLANCA
GOMEZ AND I'M THE COUNCIL MEMBER
TO THE CITY OF VICTORVILLE. HERE
REPRESENTING MYSELF AS AN
INDIVIDUAL.
I HAVE NO LEGAL BACKGROUND.
ENDED LAW LIBRARIES DO SUPPORT
ALL TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS.
I WOULDN'T BE WILL TO AFFORD AN
ATTORNEY. THAT WOULD BE MY LAST
RESORT A LAW LIBRARY WHICH
IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN USING
LATELY.
ACCESS TO WEST LAWLER LEXISNEXIS
HOMELESS I'M A STUDENT. I HAVE
NO ACCESS WE ONLY HAVE ONE
COMPUTER AT THE VICTORVILLE. LAW
LIBRARY.
WHEN I GET ISSUED.
CERTAIN CASES FROM NINETEEN
NINETIES I THINK WERE IN THE
TWENTY FIRST CENTURY I WOULD
LIKE TO SHEPHERD EYES THOSE
CASES.
HOWEVER THE ONLY ONE COMPUTER
THAT WE DO HAVE. IS DOWN IN IS
NO LONGER FUNCTIONING SO I MIGHT
HAVE TO GO TO SAN BERNARDINO.
TAXES THAT SHEPHERD ISING.
SO I SUPPORT. THE FUNDING OF LAW
LIBRARIES THANK YOU.
VERY.
COMPELLING TESTIMONY.
PUBLIC COMMENT.
A.
I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD
FROM THE SENATOR MYSELF SENATOR
RALPH.
BOTH AT THE ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS.
.
DID NEED TO NEARLY GET BACK TO
ME ABOUT HIS.
I ASSUME THE LAW LIBRARIES HAVE
OPERATING COST THE TEN THERE'S
ALSO THE COST OF THE MATERIALS
OKAY AND. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S
INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL.
IT IS OKAY.
SO THE OERATE YOU KNOW ITS
OPERATIONS.
PUTS YOU HAVE TO YOU KNOW
OBVIOUSLY.
UPDATE YOUR LEGAL MATERIALS SO
YOU HAVE UP TO DATE LEGAL
INFORMATION.
CORRECT SO SO. SO SO THAT THAT
IS INCLUDED OKAY OKAY THAT'S
ALL.
.
ALRIGHT.
A I THINK YOU HAVE.
I THINK THAT YOU.
I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE.
SUPPORT HERE.
WE ARE HOLDING THE ITEM OPEN.
AND.
WILL BE LOOKING AT.
AND OF COURSE WHEN WE REVISIT IT
AND MAYBE POTENTIALLY HOW TO
STRUCTURE IT SO.
POTENTIAL IS NOT ONE TIME ONLY.
.
ALRIGHT.
WE.
WE'LL GO TO ISSUE TWENTY THREE.
THE UPDATE ON COLLABORATIVE
COURT.
AND.
.
LIMON.
YEAH IT WAS A GREAT ONE.
SO IN THIS AREA. THAT WE ARE NOT
THERE'S NOT INACTION IT'S
MOSTLY.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND A LOT
OF TIME PARTLY BECAUSE I'M SURE
SENATOR BILL AND I AM.
IT'S IS HARD TO SAY THIS LONG.
.
AND WE'RE FOR SUCCESSION EARLIER
BUT ANYWAY SO I THINK THAT.
.
MY INTEREST IN HEARING
YESTERDAY.
IS THAT THAT I KNOW. THAT WE
HAVE BEEN USING OUR
COLLABORATIVE COURT SUCCESSFULLY
TO.
IN FACT.
.
WE TRY TO PREVENT FOLKS FROM.
INCARCERATION THAT WE MIGHT
OTHERWISE WHETHER IT'S THROUGH A
DRUG COURT ORDER THROUGH AND.
YOU KNOW THE VARIOUS THINGS
WE'VE DONE.
BUT I THINK ONE OF THE AREAS
THAT BOTH SENATOR BILL AND I ARE
PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN IT
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE ONLY
UPDATE YOU GIVE US BUT.
IS THAT WE ARE IN A SITUATION
AND IT'S BEEN BUILDING OVER TIME
WHERE ARE COUNTY JAILS IN OUR
STATE PRISON FACILITIES ARE
MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES.
AND THAT.
YOU KNOW VERY OFTEN FOLKS YOU
ARE AS AS SENATOR BILL DESCRIBES
IT BASICALLY THEY'RE BEING.
ARRESTED FOR BEHAVIOR.
AND THEN THEY END UP BEING. PUT
IN OUR COUNTY YEAR STATE
FACILITY DUDE HE EVER DO TO
MENTAL ILLNESS AND THAT.
IT.
GIVEN THE COST NOW ESPECIALLY
ITS FIRST STATE INCARCERATION
THIS.
IT'S NOT.
AFFECTED FOREST'S IN CERTAINLY
IN OUR OTHER THAN THE.
MENTAL THE STATE MENTAL
HOSPITALS.
YOU KNOW WE CAN EXPECT THAT OUR
CUSTODIAL STAFF IN IN EITHER ARE
COUNTY FACILITIES OR ARE.
ST INCARCERATION FACILITIES ARE
THAT'S NOT THEIR TRAINING TO
DEAL WITH MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE
SO.
IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR UPDATE
ON OUR WHAT WE'VE BEEN
EFFECTIVELY DOING TO.
YOU TRY TO LIMIT IN PREVENT
FOLKS FROM BEING INCARCERATED
JUST DO THEIR MILK MENTAL
ILLNESS THAT WOULD BE GOOD BUT
IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU
WANT TO ADD.
SURE AS A THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
AND CENTER BELL AND SHELLEY
CURRAN I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES FOR
THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL.
VERY BRIEFLY COLLABORATIVE
COURTS ARE THERE ALSO KNOWN AS
PROBLEM SOLVING COURTS AND THEIR
COMBINATION OF. JUDICIAL
OVERSIGHT WITH WITH RIGOROUS
TREATMENT.
OPTIONS ARE ESSENTIALLY IN LIEU
OF DETENTION AS YOU MENTIONED
BEFORE I'M THE TEAMS ARE MADE UP
OF THE LOCAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
PARTNERS SO IT'S THE JUDGE THE
PROSECUTOR THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY.
AND THEN.
THERE MIGHT BE TREATMENT
PROVIDERS WHO ARE ALSO INVOLVED
IN THE IN THE SYSTEM AND THEY
LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL AND HOLY
RIGHT AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO
TO WORK WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL. TO
MORE SUCCESSFULLY MONITOR THE
INDIVIDUAL AND PROVIDE SERVICES
IN THE COMMUNITY IN LIEU OF
DETENTION AND SO SAVING SOME OF
THE BEDS THAT YOU REFERRED TO
AND ALSO THE COSTS OF ASSOCIATED
WITH CART INCARCERATION.
.
WHEN WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL GOES TO
A COLLABORATIVE CORD HERE SHE IS
OFTEN ASSESSED ABOUT WHAT ARE
THEIR NEEDS WERE TO THE MENTAL
HEALTH NEEDS. THEIR THEIR COAL
ACCORDING DISORDER NEEDS
SUBSTANCE USE I'M SUBSTANCE
ABUSE AND OTHER TREATMENT NEEDS.
COMMUNITY TREATMENT PLANTS ARE
THAN BASED UPON THE RISK
ASSESSMENT AND THE NEEDS OF
THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE AND THEN
THEY ALSO WILL I TYPICALLY IMPLY
VARIOUS EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICES
SO SWIFT AND CERTAIN PUNISHMENT.
I'M GRADUATED SANCTIONS
GRADUATED REWARDS.
AND AND PARTICIPANTS IN THESE
MENTAL HEALTH ANOTHER
COLLABORATIVE COURTS I.
WILL GO UP TO GO TO COURT
REGULARLY SOMETIMES IT'S AS MUCH
AS ONCE A WEEK AND THEN THEY
THEY AS THEY PROGRESS IT'S LESS
AND LESS OFTEN. CLUB RECORDS
COME IN VARIOUS SIZES AND AND
SHAPE SO WE HAVE KAROLI REENTRY
COURTS COURTS AT ADDRESS PEOPLE
WHO ARE ON.
POST RELEASE COMMUNITY
SUPERVISION DRUG COURTS MENTAL
HEALTH COURTS OTHER OTHER
TREATMENT COURTS LIKE THAT AND
THEN WE HAVE COLLABORATIVE
COURTS FOR BOTH ADULTS AND AND
JUVENILES. MOST OF THE COUNTIES
IN CALIFORNIA HAVE CLOBBERED
COURTS OPERATING AT VARIOUS
TIMES RIGHT NOW IN CALIFORNIA
SPECIFICALLY TO MENTAL
HEALTH-COURTS WE HAVE THIRTY
THREE
ADULT COURTS AND SEVEN.
.
SEVEN COURTS THAT ARE.
THAT OUR DAUGHTER THAT ARE
FOCUSED ON JUVENILE.
OFFENDERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN
THE JUSTICE SYSTEM BUT ARE THOSE
MENTAL HEALTH CLASSES SEVEN
MENTAL HEALTH A QUARTERLY THREE
MINORITY THREE ADULTS AND AND
SEVEN JUVENILES.
WHEN THE CLUB RECORD SUDDEN AND
MENTAL HEALTH COURT SPECIFICALLY
ARE FUNDED IN VARIOUS WAYS SOME
COME FROM GENERAL COURT
OPERATIONS THAT THAT THAT COURTS
ARE ABLE TO DESIGNATE DOLLARS OR
AT LEAST IN PART.
CERTAINLY JUDICIAL TIME AND
OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT WILL COME
FROM THE PORT OTHERS I'M GET
GRANTS FROM VARIOUS PLACES SO
THERE THERE ARE SOME FEDERAL
GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. THE
JUDICIAL COUNCIL SEVERAL YEARS
AGO FUNDED THE RECIDIVISM
REDUCTION OR PARDON ME THE
LEGISLATURE FUNDED THE REDUCE
RECIDIVISM REDUCTION FUND AND
THE COUNCIL ALLOCATED.
VARIOUS DOLLARS TO TO PROGRAMS
WE HAD TEN MENTAL HEALTH COURTS
AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE FUNDING
FOR WERE BRAND NEW COURTS.
ADDITIONAL COURTS I'M CONTINUE
TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR FUNDING AND
IT WENT FOR A MYRIAD OF OF.
PROGRAMS THAT WE WERE URBAN
SERVICES WITHIN THE MENTAL
HEALTH. COURTS THEMSELVES
ANOTHER REENTRY COURTS I WOULD
SAY IN TERMS OF THE GREATEST
RESOURCE NEEDS SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES ARE.
.
THE WAY THAT WE'RE FUNDING
CLEVER OF COURTS A CLUB RECORD
HAVE BEEN FUNDED HAVE BEEN
INCREMENTALLY SO THE RECIDIVISM
REDUCTION FUND IS ONE EXAMPLE.
THE COURTS INNOVATION FUND WAS
ANOTHER WAY THAT THAT COURTS
WERE ABLE TO I'M TRY MORE
INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS WITHIN THEIR
THEIR MENTAL HEALTH COURTS.
AND SUSTAIN SOME OF THE THE
PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE GOT FEDERAL
DOLLARS COME DOWN BUT IT'S
ALWAYS THAT QUESTION RIGHT OF OF
WHEN IS THE NEXT DOLLAR COMING
FOR THESE PROGRAMS AND SO THAT'S
A CHALLENGE.
AND THEN ALSO WITH A PROBABLY
MOST FUNDAMENTALLY ARE ARE WHAT
ARE THE TREATMENT OPTIONS IN THE
COMMUNITY RIGHT THERE ARE SOME
PLACES THAT HAVE. GREATER ACCESS
TO GREATER TREATMENT I'M SURE
THOSE COUNTIES WOULD TELL US
THAT THEY STILL DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH BUT AT LEAST THEY'VE
THEY'VE GOT SOME AND THEN IN
SOME OF OUR MORE RURAL AREAS
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE TO
PROVIDE THE SERVICES. QUESTION
I'D HAVE MORE WE WE KNOW. THAT
FOR EXAMPLE.
VOTERS PASSED PROPS EXCEEDS
RISSO WE'VE DIRECTED MONEY FOR.
MORE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES
YEAH. IT'S.
THERE'S IN MORE THAN.
A NUMBER THERE'S MANY COUNTIES
THAT.
HAVE UNSPENT FUNDS THERE.
AND.
SO IT IS SOMETIMES THE.
THE ISSUE OF THAT WE DON'T HAVE
ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR SERVICES IS
NOT. ALWAYS THE CASE IT'S MORE
THAT THOSE.
DOT HAVING BEEN CONNECTED IN
OTHER WORDS THAT.
AND SO I WONDERED IF WE HAD.
ANY.
THERE'S A JUDICIAL COUNCIL HAVE
NUMBERS ON.
WHAT AMOUNT OF DIVERSION WE'VE
MAY BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH OUR
THIRTY THREE ADULTS MENTAL
HEALTH COLLABORATIVE COURTS?
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS NOW
ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE
RECIDIVISM REDUCTION FUND WHEAT
THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE ENDING
ACTUALLY FOR THE COURTS IN
ELEVEN DAYS OF THEM AND SO WE
WILL BE SPENDING THE NEXT YEAR
AND A HALF COLLECTING DATA. ON
ONE APARTMENT WE ALREADY BEEN
COLLECTING DATA WOULD DOING A
THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF THE IMPACT
OF.
THOSE PROGRAMS AND AT THAT
POINT WE WILL HAE BETTER DATA
FOR YOU TO TELL YOU I'M EXACTLY
HOW SUCCESSFUL THOSE THOSE.
PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN NOT ONLY
LOOKING AT FAMILY PARTICIPANTS
WE HAD AND WHAT WERE THEIR KNEES
BUT REALLY WHAT ARE THEIR
OUTCOMES WHICH IS HANYU IN
LOOKING AT THAT LOOK AT WHETHER
IF WE WERE TO.
RENEW FINDING WHETHER WE'D HAVE
TO.
PUT ANY ADDITIONAL.
DIRECTIVES OR.
LANGUAGE THAT WOULD TRY TO HELP
BETTER CONNECT.
THE COURT TO THE COUNTY
SERVICES.
SINCE.
YOU KNOW AND I I REALIZE THAT
IT'S NOT LIKE ALL MENTAL HEALTH
NEEDS ARE ADEQUATELY FUNDED IN
THE STATE BUT WE HAVE DIRECTED
ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND WE ARE
AWARE THAT.
IN SOME CASES IS NOT BEING
SPENT.
SO.
IF THERE IS ANY INSIGHT ON IF WE
WERE TO. RENEW THIS ARE
EXPANDED.
WHAT OTHER LANGUAGE WE MIGHT
NEED WOULD BE HELPFUL?
YES WE WILL WE ARE IN THE
PROCESS NOW AS WE'RE WRAPPING UP
THAT GRANT PROGRAM ON A DOING A
SURVEY OF THE COURTS JUST
GENERALLY HOW IT WENT LESSONS
LEARNED THINGS LIKE THAT AND WE
WILL ADD SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO
THAT. ITEM WE'VE BEEN GOING OUT
REGULARLY AND MEETING WITH.
DOING DOING SITE VISITS TO THE
TO THE RECIDIVISM REDUCTION FUND
GRANTEES.
AND WE WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THAT
AND REPORT BACK TO YOU.
IN YOUR BILL.
THE.
THE CHIEF JUSTICE SUPPORT CLAMOR
COURTS.
I'M I'M GONNA LOOK BACK AND AND
I'M GETTING A NOD FROM THE BACK
AND SAY WELL I WANNA I WANNA I
WANNA SEE A LITTLE. LITTLE.
.
I WANT TO SEE SOME THERE YES I
DON'T THINK I KINDA INTO AYE.
AYE LISTEN TO RISKY.
US CALM THE.
SO.
.
IT TEARS IT PROCESS FOR MONEY.
WHEN WE ALLOCATE TO DID. DID.
THE BUDGET.
IS THERE ANY SPECIAL ALLOCATION
OR IS IT JUST.
THAT ALLOCATION A GOES TO.
SPECIAL.
THE COLLABORATIVE COURT.
HOW DOES IT WORK?
SO THEY GET THE* OUT YOU
KNOW WE WERE THIS BUDGET
COMMITTEE SO I WANNA KNOW. HOW
HOW IS FUNDED YOU KNOW IS IT IS
IT IS IT IS IT LIKE IN THE
BUDGET OR DO WE GIVE THE COURTS
TO MONEY?
AND AND.
.
THEY DECIDE.
SO YOU KNOW WE HAVE ACHIEVED TO.
THE DOESN'T REALLY.
THINK MUCH OF THE IDEA. COULD
THEY JUST SAY OKAY WERE ONLY
GOING TO FUND THE REGULAR COURTS
AND.
YOU KNOW THESE OTHER THINGS THAT
COSTS MORE MONEY RIGHT.
SO I WANT TO HEAR WHAT I WANT TO
HEAR I WANT TO HEAR I'M
DESCRIBING BLOOD HERE YOU KNOW.
.
I WANT TO KNOW I WANT TO KNOW.
THE STRUCTURE OF THE DECISION
MAKING ON THOSE CLEVER RECORDS
FILL AYE I WILL SAY YOU YES THE
CHIEF DEFINITELY SUPPORTS
COLLABORATIVE COURT SHE WAS A
BIG PROPONENT FOR EXAMPLE OF THE
RECIDIVISM REDUCTION FUND
SOMEONE LEGISLATURE DECIDED TO
MAKE TO MAKE THAT ALLOCATION
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS
VERY. SUPPORTIVE AT AND IT'S
SOMETHING THAT SHE HAS SPOKEN
ABOUT.
IN TERMS OF FUNDING.
THE FAMILIAR MARRIED OF WAYS
AND I WOULD SAY MOST
FUNDAMENTALLY IT'S IT'S
DIFFERENT MONIES COMING IN AT
THE SAME TIME SO AS YOU KNOW.
JUDGES ARE FUNDED AT THE STATE
LEVEL AND JUDGES SIT ON THE
COLLABORATIVE CORD AND SO FOR
EXAMPLE A COURT WILL MAKE A
DECISION THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE
A DRUG COURT SO EVEN IF THAT
DRUG COURT.
RECEIVES FEDERAL DOLLARS TO
OPERATE THE DRUG COURT THERE
STILL IS BY AND AND INVESTMENT
BOTH IN TERMS OF OF DOLLARS AND
JUDICIAL TIME.
AND THEN PRIORITIES AND AND YOU
KNOW WE WE DO HAVE DRUG DRUG
COURTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
.
WELL AND THEN HEARD OURS WE.
THOUGH COURTS CAME TO THE BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS AND WE JUST GIVES
MONEY TO START A.
AND I WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
BOARD I HAD THIS JUDGE NAME
STEVE MANLY IT CAME UP AND.
PASS ME FOR THE MONEY.
AND I SAID OKAY LET'S SEE WHAT
HAPPENS AND THEN HE GIVEN THE
MONEY.
THEN HE STARTED.
.
THE DRUG COURT.
AND.
IT'S BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.
THE MILL HELP CORDESMAN
SUCCESSFULLY STARTED OUT LATER
WE STARTED DOING ALL THESE.
COLLABORATIVE. A JUVENILE.
BURLY REDHEAD WE HAVE A
DEPENDENCY DRUG COURT NOW.
YOU ONLY REMEMBER THE FOSTER
KIDS YEAH SO SO WE HAVE.
.
THE SCORES BUT THEN WHEN WE LOOK
AT THE FORMULA FOR THE MONEY.
IF COUNTY. IT'S ALMOST LIKE
PENALIZED FOR HAVING.
COLLABORATE COURSES ARE MORE
EXPENSIVE.
SO WHAT'S THE REASON WHY COUNTY
WOULD ONE ESTABLISHES THE
PRESSURE GOES.
AGAINST.
FUNDING COLLABORATIVE COURTS.
CORRECT.
WELL AYE I I THINK.
DISASSEMBLING PORSCHE AND AND
THAT THANK YOU FOR THE OF ONE
QUESTION GARLIC SPECIAL ED.
YOU KNOW WE DON'T WE DON'T YOU
KNOW WHEN WHEN YOU GO TO SCHOOL
YOU GIVEN X. AMOUNT PER STUDENT.
JUST A FLAT.
NO FORMULA.
AND.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EXTRA MONEY
FOR SPECIAL ED SPECIFICALLY.
SO THEREFORE WHEN THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT REVIEWS.
SPECIAL ED SERVICES FOR SAY A
KID.
THERE.
SOMETIMES A SLIM SOME SCHOOL
DISTRICTS ARE AS GENEROUS AS
OTHERS.
AND THE IDEA THAT CAUSES A LOT
OF PROBLEMS SO LIKE. WE'RE GONNA
HAVE THESE CLEVER RECORDS IS
THERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF STRATEGIC
COMMITMENT AS THEIR.
BUT I THINK THERE'S A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OF
COMMITMENT AND I'M SORRY YES I
DO I DO AND AND I THINK.
MADAM CHAIR MENTIONED AT THE
BEGINNING THERE THERE ARE
BENEFITS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AYE
TO INVEST IN COLLABORATIVE
COURTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A
SUCCESSFUL COLLABORATIVE COURT.
THAN YOU ARE AVOIDING JAIL BED
DAYS.
AND YOU ARE IT'S BETTER FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE
YOU KNOW AS AS.
COLLABORATIVE COURTS ARE
BECOMING MORE INGRAINED.
IN LOCAL I'M POLITICAL CULTURE
WHAT NOT THEN THEN I THINK WE
ARE SEEING BETTER NUMBERS AND WE
ARE SEEING GENERAL SUCCESS AND
IT'S A REAL PARTNERSHIP RIGHT WE
CAN'T JUST HAVE. ON THE COURT
THAT IS FOCUSED EXCLUSIVELY ON
THE COLLABORATIVE COURTS WE HAVE
TO HAVE THE OTHER WE HAVE TO
HAVE A DISTRICT ATTORNEY WHO'S
PARTICIPATING. IN A PUBLIC
DEFENDER WHO IS PARTICIPATING
AND THEN THOSE AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL WHO ARE PROVIDING THE
SERVICES.
OKAY.
S. MY QUESTIONS I WAS VERY LONG
RIGHT YES YES CAREER.
NO I I DON'T.
NOW I LOOK AT THE MONEY SO.
LOOK AT LIKE IS THERE ANY LIKE
SPECIAL.
YOU KNOW FUNDERS SOMETHING IT
ALLOCATES TO HELP SET UP TO
COLLECT RECORDS ARE SUPPORT AND.
AS OPPOSED TO JUST GIVING THE
MONEY TO THE COUNTIES.
AS SOME COUNTIES HAVE.
MORE CLEVER RECORDS THEY BELIEVE
IN THAT KIND OF MODEL OTHER
COUNTIES. NOW THEY DON'T CARE
ABOUT IT THEY JUST WANNA HAVE.
CRIMINAL CIVIL YOU KNOW KIND OF.
THERE NOT PUT THE MONEY INTO IT
SO ANOTHER SIX USUALLY THE ONES
THAT DON'T PUT THE MONEY TO IT.
ARE THE SAME ONES THAT SEND
PEOPLE TO THE STATE PRISON.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE
QUESTION.
AND THE STATE HOSPITAL IS WELL.
AS CNN SAY.
SO WE ENDS UP COSTING.
OUR BUDGET MONEY.
ONE OTHER AT IT SUCCESS DONE
WE'RE GOING TO ALL OF THE TRIAL
COURT WOULD BECAUSE THAT'S
RIGHT.
A SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER
CLUB RECORD IS A PARTNERSHIP.
BETWEEN.
CCR AND THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL
SEVERED SEVERAL YEARS AGO I
THINK IT WAS IN TWO THOUSAND AND
EIGHT LEGISLATION WAS PASSED FOR
THE CREATION OF OF PEARLY
REENTRY COURTS ANDAT FIRST IT
WAS FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WE USE
BGA DOLLARS.
THAT WE USE TO START THOSE AND
NOW THERE'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL
PARTNERSHIP AND AND WE'RE
ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE
COUNCIL IS WORKING WITH CITIES
YOU ARE TO RECEIVE FINDINGS IN
ORDER TO OPERATE PEARL THE
REENTRY COURTS AND THEN YOU IT
IS THEY. THEY EXIST IN YOUR
COUNTY YEAH.
OKAY.
I THINK SENATOR BILL I THINK.
CLEARLY THIS IS ONE.
THE COMMITTEES LOOKING NOW I.
A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT ARE
EVEN OUTSIDE THE JUDICIAL
SYSTEM.
TO TRY TO.
PREVENT THE.
.
THE DETAINING OF.
ARE MENTALLY ILL FOLKS IN EITHER
THE COUNTY JAILS OR THAT.
.
STATE.
COURSE RATIONING CLEARLY SINCE.
THEY END UP THERE IT IS USUALLY
THROUGH THE COURT NOT BLAMING
THE COURTS BUT THROUGH THE COURT
SO THIS WAS.
ONE OF OUR INTERESTS TO EXPLORE
THIS MORE BUT OTHER. OTHER.
MECHANISMS ARE ALSO.
.
PUBLIC PROBABLY NEEDED BUT.
YEAH WE DO NOT NEED TO BE
FURTHER INCREASING.
EITHER ARE COUNTY JAIL
FACILITIES OR OUR STATE
PENITENTIARIES WITH MENTALLY ILL
PEOPLE.
AND WE ARE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH YOU ON THAT THAT.
RIGHT ANY I KAT PUBLIC COMMENT
ON THAT ITEM.
OKAY SO WE'RE NOW MEET ACROSS
USE MOVING TO ISSUE TWENTY FOUR.
WHICH IS.
THE.
THEIR WAS A PILOT PROGRAM. FROM
A BILL IN TWENTY FOURTEEN AB
TWENTY ONE TWENTY FOUR. THAT.
SUNSET IN JANUARY FIRST
EIGHTEEN.
THEY'RE JUST SO INSERTED THAT
WAS.
DEFERRED ENTRY OF JUDGMENT SO
YEAH GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M DAN LOWENTHAL LAMENTS.
LA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT.
SO BY WAY OF BACKGROUND.
OVER HALF OF THE STATES IN THE
COUNTRY HAVE CONFERRED WITH
THEIR RESPECTIVE JUDICIARY'S
WITH THE DISCRETION TO TO FOR
JUDGMENT CERTAIN TYPES OF CASES.
ARE ESSENTIALLY THE WAY IT WORKS
IS A DEFENDANT A PARTICIPANT
ANDERSON GUILTY PLEA GUILTY PLEA
IS. ACCEPTED BY THE JUDGE BUT
NOT ENTERED INTO THE RECORD.
DURING A PROBATIONARY PERIOD
CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS ARE
IMPOSED THE PARTICIPANT COMES
BACK SHOWS COMPLETION OF THE
CONDITIONS.
THE GUILTY PLEA WHICH HAD BEEN
HELD IN ABEYANCE AT THAT TIME IS
SET ASIDE THE CASE IS DISMISSED.
AND BECAUSE THEY GUILTY PLEA WAS
NEVER ENTERED INTO THE RECORD
JUDGE WHAT WAS NEVER ENTERED
THERE'S NO CRIMINAL CONVICTION.
SO THE STATE'S BAD.
HAVE.
IF AMENITIES PROGRAMS OF ALL
REPORTED NOT REDUCE RECIDIVISM.
COST EFFICIENCIES.
COST SAVINGS AND EFFICIENCIES
ESPECIALLY THROUGH
I'M REDUCE TRIALS.
AND THE ELIMINATION OF THE
COLLATERAL CONSEQUENCES THAT
OTHERWISE WOULD.
BE ENTAILED BY A CRIMINAL
CONVICTION
SPECIFICALLY THE US SANCTIONS IN
DISQUALIFICATION XENA I
EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING AYE AND
IN JUST GENERAL PARTICIPATION IN
CIVIC LIFE.
PHIL BASED ON THE SUCCESSES THAT
THESE OTHER STATES ARE HAVING WE
CAME TO YOU IN TWO THOUSAND
FOURTEEN TO ASK FOR YOU TO
CONFER US IN CALIFORNIA WITHOUT
SEEM DISCRETION.
YOU DID THROUGH WAY OF THIS
PILOT PROGRAM JUST IN LA COUNTY
THAT WAS IN EFFECT FOR TWO
THOUSAND FIFTEEN THREE TWO
THOUSAND SEVENTEEN.
AT THE TIME I WEEK THE PROGRAM
WAS CREATED WE CREATED A.
.
CODE IN OUR TCS OUR OUR
COMPUTER SYSTEM. OUGHT TO TRACK
THE CASES
WE CAN SAY THAT. THROUGH THE
THREE YEAR PERIOD IN THE COUNTY
LOS ANGELES WE SUCCESSFULLY
HANDLED FIFTY FOUR HUNDRED
CASES.
SUCCESSFULLY MEETINGS FIFTY FOUR
OTHER PEOPLE PARTICIPATED AND
SUCCESSFULLY OTHER CASES
DISMISSED.
WE CAN'T GIVE AN EMPIRICAL
NUMBER OF.
FAILURES BECAUSE FAILURES BEING
DEFINED AS PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT
IN COMPLIANCE AND HAD TO BE.
AND HAD TO HAVE JUDGMENT
OPPOSED AND SENTENCE ENTERED.
BECAUSE OF THE TIME SENTENCE
WAS ENTERED OF THOSE CASES
MERGED WITH OUR GENERAL A
MISDEMEANOR CASES.
SO WHILE WE CAN GIVEN EMPIRICAL
NUMBER OF FAILURES WE HAVE
QUERIED WE'VE PULLED EACH JUDGE
AND IT'S OUR ESTIMATION THAT
THERE WERE ABOUT TWO HUNDRED
FAILURES.
THE FIFTY SIX ON ARE CASES FIFTY
FOUR HUNDRED SUCCESSFUL TWO
HUNDRED NOT.
BY NINETY FIVE PERCENT SUCCESS
RATE.
BOB.
THE PROGRAM WAS IN EFFECT LONG
ENOUGH TO GIVE ANY COULD TO DO
ANY KIND OF LONGITUDINAL STUDY
AS TO OUR RECIDIVISM.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T NO OF THAT
GROUP OF FIFTY SIX HUNDRED
PEOPLE HOW MANY WOULD HAVE GONE
TO TRIAL HAD THEY NOT BEEN ABLE
TO PARTICIPATE.
WE KNOW THE JET IN CALIFORNIA
FOR NON TRAFFIC MISDEMEANORS
ONLY ONE PERCENT OF THOSE CASES
GO TO JURY TRIAL.
BUT WE KNOW THAT AMONG THIS
UNIVERSE IT'S OF MUCH SEEMS.
SO MUCH GREATER NUMBER BECAUSE
IN THIS UNIVERSE WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT FIRST TIME OFFENDERS
CHARGED WITH.
THE LOWEST LEVEL OFFENSES
THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH
DISINCENTIVE NOT TO GO TO TRIAL
THEY KNOW THAT A JUDGE AFTER
THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IN
GENERAL WOULD A JUDGE IS GOING
TO SENTENCE THEM TO AFTER TRIAL.
BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET JAIL
FOR.
PETTY THEFT
BEHIND THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE FACT OF CONVICTION SO
THEY GO TO TRIAL AT A MUCH
HIGHER RATE THAN I.
THE MAJORITY MISDEMEANORS.
SO WE'RE NOT HERE ASKING FOR ANY
MONEY THERE'S NO COST.
WHATSOEVER TO THIS PROGRAM IN
FACT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THIS AND THE WAY.
CRIMINAL AYE A MISDEMEANOR.
.
ARE TRADITIONALLY HANDLED IT IS
THAT WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE
DISCRETION NOT TO HAVE TO ENTER
JUDGE BEEN IN SOME CASES.
SO I'VE SOME QUESTIONS SO FAR
FIRST.
WITHOUT THIS PILOT.
IS THERE NO ABILITY TO.
THERE'S NO JUDICIAL DISCRETION
DID NOT.
AND INTERESTINGLY AND TWO
THOUSAND FOURTEEN LEDGE COUNCIL
WROTE AN OPINION ACTUALLY I'M TO
MY MOTHER AND.
OPINING THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT
THERE WAS.
APPELLATE COURTS HAVE DISAGREED
AND HEY MADE REAL CLEAR THAT
FOR REHABILITATIVE PURPOSES A
TRIAL COURT CANNOT.
WITHHOLD JUDGMENT ON ITS OWN.
SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT.
THIRD ENTRY OF JUDGMENT VERSUS
DIVERSION.
AND THERE'S BEEN A RECENT RECENT
PUSH.
BOTH BY THE LEGISLATURE AND BY
THE ADMINISTRATION TO MOVE.
MORE TOWARD A DIVERSION MODEL
INSTEAD OF A DEFERRED ENTRY
MODEL.
AND ONE OF THE FACTORS NOT ONLY
WAS.
CONCERNED ABOUT IMMIGRATION
CONSEQUENCES THAT.
THAT WITH THE.
.
EFFORT ENTRY.
THE PERSON HAS TO PLEAD GUILTY
RIGHT AND WITH THE DIVERSION
THEY DO NOT RIGHT SO ANYTHING IS
ARE WE SET OUT OF JEAN YOU MEAN.
WHERE THEY GET TO PARTICIPATE
JUST WITHOUT ENTERING THE GUILTY
PLEA?
WELL THAT THERE'S YOU KNOW IT'S.
IN A WAY SOME OF THESE.
NOT ONLY BUT LIKE THESE
COLLABORATIVE COURT MODELS.
PUSHED THE.
PERSON INTO A PROGRAM.
WITH OUT A.
WITHOUT DOING A PLEA WITHOUT
DOING THAT RIGHT.
OKAY SO.
BECAUSE THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER.
I THINK AT THE OUTSET SOME
JUDGES WOULD SAY.
MECHANICALLY IT'S JUST EASIER
TO HAVE THEM AFTER THE GUILTY
PLEA BECAUSE OF THAT ARE NOT IN
COMPLIANCE
THERE'S NO TRIAL THEY JUST
IT'S SENTENCE WERE DONE WITH
THAT.
ON HOWEVER BECAUSE THE
STAGGERING NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE
GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL ON AND
THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY FEW WHO
ARE NOT ON.
THE JUDGES WOULD BE VERY
AMENABLE TO THAT.
YEAH.
SO I AM.
THE OTHER REASON IN ANYTHING
ELSE YOU'RE DESIGNING IT SO IF I
UNDERSTAND IT. SETS DESIGNED
WITH THAT OUT NOT QUITE SURE TO
DO IT BUT YOU WOULD KNOW MUCH
BETTER THAN I WITHOUT THE YOU
COULD YOU SAY PERSON HABLADO YOU
CAN JUST INSULT PRETRIAL.
YOU JUST WOULD CALL PRE TRIAL
PRE TRIAL.
RECHARGE YEAH ESSENTIALLY WHAT
THE.
YOU'RE WORKING IS ACTUALLY THE
SAME WAY OCCURRED AT THE
CONCLUSION OF THE PERIOD UPON
PROOF OF COMPLETION OCCUR ON.
THE JUDGE WOULD BE ABLE TO
DISMISS THE CASE SO ESSENTIALLY
YOU WOULD BE CONFERRING JUDGES
WITH THE DISCRETION TO DISMISS
THE CASE.
ARM.
AND AGAIN JUDGES RIGHT NOW
ALREADY HAVE BROAD DISCRETION TO
DISMISS A CASE FOR ALMOST ALL
REASONS EXCEPT FOR
REHABILITATIVE PURPOSES
ESSENTIALLY BE SAYING A JUDGE
CAN DISMISS A CASE FOR
REHABILITATIVE PURPOSES.
AND PARENTHETICALLY WHEN WE CAME
TO YOU IN TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN
WE STARTED OFF ASKING FOR THE
ABILITY TO DO IT THAT WAY.
WITHOUT A DEFERRED JUDGMENT
WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO ENTER A
PLEA.
BUT THERE IS SUCH BIG BASED ON
OPPOSITION.
FROM THE PROSECUTORS.
.
WE KINDA SADDLED WITH THAT
DEFERRED JUDGMENT.
BUT YEAH OF COURSE WE'D BE HAPPY
BY DOING IT THAT WAY.
WELL WE HAVE BLOOM SP TWO THREE
THREE SO.
THAT WOULD BE.
.
TO WHICH ONE.
WE'LL GET TO SIXTY.
YOU SIX ZERO.
SO THAT THOSE DESERVED ALLOWS
THE JUDGE AND THE. PROSECUTOR IN
A PUBLIC DEFENDER OF SIT DOWN
AND.
HAVE A ARM DISCUSSION.
PRIOR TO.
PRE ARREST
THEY CAN DO A DIVERSION WITHOUT
FORMALLY ARRESTING SOMEBODY.
HOUSE YOU KNOW THAT IS THAT
THAT'S A DIFFERENT MODEL IT'S.
YEAH AND.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT FOR
THESE LOW LEVEL.
OFFENDERS IT WAS.
.
YOU KNOW IT'S PART OF OUR
AROUND.
PROCESS WE HAVE A BILL SITTING.
THEY IS OVER THE OTHER PLACE.
THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE GREEN
CARPET.
RIGHT NOW.
AND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY
DOZEN IMPACT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR
FORM A PROSECUTOR'S ABILITY TO
CONTINUE WITH WHATEVER DIVERSION
PROGRAMS ON THEY BELIEVE
APPROPRIATE. I'M OR OFFER
DIVERSION.
THEMSELVES TO KEEP IT FROM
BEING CHARGED HAVING A RECORDS.
FOR RIGHT THIS IS ALSO WAS
CONFERRING JUDGES FOR SOME CASES
THAT THE TO NOT HAVE TO. PUT THE
SCARLET LETTER OF CRIMINAL ON A
PERSON FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE
THAT SHE OTHER. USER DRUG DRUG
EIGHTIES AND SANCTIONS AND
DISQUALIFICATION IS THAT IT CAN
APPLY.
RIGHT.
YEAH ON OUR CASE IT WAS HORROR
LIKE MENTAL HEALTH DAY OF MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES WE DON'T WANT TO
START LOADING THEM UP WITH.
YOU NO RECORD A CRIMINAL RECORD
BECAUSE THEY GOT NO HEALTH
PROBLEMS. THE HOMELESS.
START THROWING WRECK YOU KNOW IT
YOU KNOW THE KIND JUST EXAMINE
HOPEFULLY WERE A SONG MAKES.
FOOD MAKES IT HARD TO.
AND AND.
COURSE.
IF THE VIOLATE CONDITIONS IT HAS
JUST A DRUG VIOLATION THAT'S
PART OF THE PROCESS OF.
REHABILITATION OF QUARTERS NOT
REALLY.
.
AND HERE DE AVERAGE PERSON
VIOLATES FIVE TIMES YOU KNOW OR
RECEIVE THOROUGH.
CORRECT WOULD WITH DRUGS SHOWS
LIKE FIVE.
I HAVE FIVE TIMES YOU KNOW IT'S
ALSO I THINK AXIOMATIC THAT.
A PERSON GIVEN A SECOND CHANCE
IS ABLE TO LEAVE HER ENCOUNTER
WITH THE JUSTICE SYSTEM WITHOUT
A CRIMINAL CONVICTION.
HAS HEIGHTENED.
.
I'M INCENTIVE TO KEEP A RECORD
CLEAN PROSPECTIVELY AND THAT'S
WHY HE'S OTHER JURISDICTIONS
HAVE FOUND REDUCE RECIDIVISM.
WHO?
I DIDN'T INHALE AND LASTLY WITH
THE RESOURCES THAT WE CONSERVE
WITH THE JURY TRIALS THAT WE
AVOIDED WE ARE ABLE TO OUR.
TO REDIRECT THOSE VERY PRECIOUS
RESOURCES TO WHERE THEY'RE MORE
ACUTELY NEEDED AND WE HEARD
REFERENCE FROM THE TRIAL LAWYERS
TODAY. ON THAT SOMETIMES IT
TAKES THREE YEARS TO GET TO
TRIAL.
YOU KNOW.
WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LET THE POP
PUBLIC THAT WE SERVE WAIT THAT
LONG.
SORRY THINKS I THINK YES THANK
YOU ANY OUR PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THIS ONE.
GOOD.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR TRYING TO
BRIEF GIVEN THE LATE HOUR SHAUN
OFTEN WITH CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION.
ARM. WE RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF
DEFERRED ENTRY OF JUDGMENT
DIVERSION PROGRAMS AND
APPROPRIATE CASES WE'VE.
WORKERS SENATOR BALLOT HIS STAFF
ON PREVIOUSLY S. B. EIGHT
BALLOTS BE TWO FIFTEEN.
CERTAINLY SEE MERIT TO TO THOSE
IDEAS. IDEC WE WORKED WITH
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOAN PHONE
TWENTY FOURTEEN ON FOR THE SCOPE
OF OF.
AT AB TWENTY ONE TWENTY FOUR.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HAD WITH
THAT LEGISLATION SORT OF IN
ANTICIPATION OF.
THIS VERY DISCUSSION WAS THERE
WAS NO EVALUATION COMPONENT TO
THAT BILL.
SO THE CONCERN WE HAVE AT THE
TIME WAS.
OKAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS PILOT
PROGRAM BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO
MEASURE EVEN DEFINE WHAT WHAT
SUCCESSES I THINK.
YOU KNOW EVEN EVEN A JUDGE
LOWENTHAL.
MENTIONED SOME OF THE THE
DIFFICULTIES IN IN TRACKING THAT
DATA AND AND COMING UP WITH THAT
SO.
WE'RE OPEN TO HAVING THE
DISCUSSION ABOUT.
DOING THIS WE THINK IT'S
PROBABLY BETTER SUITED FOR
POLICY COMMITTEE WHERE WE CAN.
MAYBE GET A LITTLE MORE THOROUGH
VETTING A LITTLE MORE OF.
DIG INTO WHAT THE EXPERIENCE
HAS BEEN IN IN LOS ANGELES
COUNTY WITH THIS PROGRAM.
BUT.
ARE WE ARE.
WE'RE INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT
DISCUSSION AND AS I SAID
CERTAINLY.
I IN APPROPRIATE CASES DO.
A VERY MUCH VALUE THE DIVERSION
AND FOR ENTRY OF JUDGMENT MODEL.
SIGNIFICANTLY THE DEFERRED ENTRY
OF JUDGMENT.
VERSES THE PRICKLY DIVERSION
FOR A NUMBER OF LOGISTICAL
REASONS BUT THAT'S PROBABLY AT A
CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY
GEYSER NOT OPPOSING MY BILLS.
WE ARE NOT OPPOSING YOUR BILL
SENATE NO.
WELL THAT OBVIOUSLY THIS POLICY
WAS THOROUGHLY VETTED. AND.
SO.
WHY YOU?
THE SAME POLICY DOESN'T ALWAYS
MAKE SENSE TO ME NOW CERTAINLY
IF YOU WANT TO ADD EVALUATION
COMPONENT.
THAT.
I'D BE CONSIDERED BUT IT WOULD
SEEM TO ME THAT IF THERE ARE ANY
WAS.
A HIGH PROFILE EXPERIENCE OF
SOMETHING THAT WENT TERRIBLY
WRONG IN THIS SITUATION GIVEN
THAT THERE WERE.
AT FIFTY SIX HUNDRED CASES THAT
YOU PRY WOULD BE DESCRIBING IT
TO US.
BUT.
WE COULD ALWAYS TALK ABOUT
WHETHER.
IF WE WERE TO EXTENDED.
TIME.
HOW TO BUILD IN AN EVALUATION?
MAYBE SOMEBODY HAS EVALUATED WE
DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT
POSSIBLE TO THE MIGHT BE SOME.
ACADEMIC INSTITUTION OR SOMEBODY
ELSE'S ORGANIZATIONS.
DONNA VALUATION WE CAN I DON'T
THINK THAT WAS DONE.
COUNTY.
YEAH HAPPY ABOUT.
YEAH YEAH.
YEAH IT KNEW OR ARE WE BROUGHT
HE IS BECAUSE HE.
I'M IT WAS SUPPORTED BY YOUR
NATIONAL DIRECTOR OF SEVERAL. IF
HE'S.
PERHAPS SOME WE CAN GET SOME OF
THAT INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP
WITH.
UNDERSTAND.
ALRIGHT.
WE.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO I AM TWENTY
FIVE THE SECOND THE LAST I
THINK.
THE CAPITAL OUTLAY. BCP'S
ENEMIES ARE THIS IS AN ACTION
ITEM.
I THINK.
LET'S SEE HOLD ON A MINUTE.
.
YES THE OLEO HAS A LOT OF.
.
IS. BEFORE YOU GET INTO YOUR
DETAIL WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF.
CENTER BILL AND I NEED TO HAVE
DETAIL IN EACH ONE OF THE.
DIDN'T PLAN ON PROVIDING A GOOD
WELL. BUT I JUST WANT TO RAISE
THAT.
.
IT IT DOESN'T. AYE AYE WILL YOU
MEAN TO YEAH I WILL BUT I. I
JUST WANT TO SAY IN TERMS OF THE
LA THOSE COMMENTS IT DOES NOT
MAKE SENSE TO ME TO HAVE.
TO MOVE.
THE CURRENT COURT TRANSIT
CONSTRUCTION TRANSFERS TO THE.
.
TO APPROPRIATE FROM GENERAL FUND
THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME
BUT I A. M. AFTER YOU MAKE YOUR
REPORT. HAPPY TO HAVE BELIAU.
.
REFERENCE SOME OF THEIR OTHER
CONCERNS BUT.
.
S. WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE
RECORD IN ALLOW YOU TO PRESENT
YOUR REPORT.
AND.
GIVEN GIVEN THE TIME OF DAY AND
THEN. THE LENGTH OF THE HEARING
ALL KEEP IT BRIEF AND JUST
REFLECT WHAT'S IN THE AGENDA FOR
YOU. I'M AGAIN MS LOT OF HEAT
ARE RICH BUDGET DIRECTOR OF THE
JEWISH COUNCIL ON THE UDGET
OVER FOR TWO YEAR PERIOD.
BASICALLY ABOVE FUNDS ARE LIKELY
ONE POINT THREE BILLION IN LEASE
REVENUE BONDS TO COMPLETE
CONSTRUCTION. THE NEXTTEN
COURTHOUSE PROJECT A READY TO
PROCEED.
THEY INCLUDE FOR THE EIGHTEEN
NINETEEN FISCAL YEAR IMPERIAL
RIVERSIDE INYO SHASTA SISKIYOU
INTO ARMY COURTS.
AND IN FOR NINETEEN TWENTY THEY
INCLUDE A GLAND RIVERSIDE MADE
COUNTY SACRAMENTO CINEMA AND
STANISLAUS.
THESE ARE ALL VERY CRITICAL
IMPORTANT.
.
PROJECTS FOR US AND FOR THE
STATE TO ENSURE WE HAVE
APPROPRIATE ACCESS.
AND TO OUR COURTHOUSES.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
WHEN YOU HAVE LIKE A HISTORICAL
KHORASANI HANDLE THAT YOU HAVE.
SPECIAL LIKE.
ARCHITECT WHO LIKE YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE.
ARE.
WE HAVE MY OUR OUR BEAUTIFUL
SANTA CLARA COUNTY.
EIGHTEEN SIXTY.
COURTHOUSE THAT WE ACTUALLY
BUILT.
TWO BUT TO ATTRACT BACK THE
STATE CAPITOL TO THE CITY OF SAN
JOSE AND OF THE CITY OF SAN JOSE
WAS THE FIRST.
STATE CAPITOL AND THEN.
SOMETHING HAPPENED AND IT LEFT
HERE LEFT SAN JOSE NO.
IN EIGHTEEN SIXTY WE BUILT THIS
BEAUTIFUL BUILDING WE WANT TO
ATTRACT THE CAPITAL BACK.
AND SINCE THE REJECTED US.
WE TURNED IT INTO OUR COURTHOUSE
RIGHT JUDGED. THAT'S HOW IT
HAPPENED THERE TO THE COURTHOUSE
IS A BEAUTIFUL RECONSTRUCTED.
THOUGH I SEE SOME OF THE
COURTHOUSES AND THE LIGHTS UP
CASES
THEM IN MANY CASES THOSE
HISTORICAL COURTHOUSES WERE NOT
TRANSFERRED TO THE STATE.
VIETNAM AND SO THEY'RE STILL
RETAINED BY THE COUNTY THEIR OWN
BY THE COUNTY CLAIMS THE GLAND
PROJECT.
IS US STILL OCCUPIED BY THE
ACCOUNT THE COURT.
BUT YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A
HISTORICAL EXPERTS IT'S GOING TO
HELP YOU WITH THE.
THE TEXTURE DOES
REBUILDING.
UNDER FELLOW MY COURT WITH
FACILITIES SERVICES YES THAT'S
CORRECT WHEN WE. HIRED TO DESIGN
ARCHITECT FOR THE GLENN PROJECT
FOCUSED ON THE HISTORICAL NATURE
OF THE EXISTING BUILDING OKAY.
HOW YOU GONNA PAY FOR ALL OF
SILICON EXPLAINED THAT GENERAL
FUND?
THE THAT THE PROPOSAL BY THE
ARBITRATION YEAH I WON HERE. IS
THAT IT IT DID THEY ARE BACKING
THIS THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND
FOR THESE TEN PROJECTS.
CASH NOT BONDS OR ANOTHER BE
RELEASED REVENUE DEBT.
OKAY LEASE REVENUE BONDS WILL BE
ISSUED IN THE FUNDED THE DEBT
SERVICE FUND THE GUY HARRY BY
THE WHAT'S THE TOTAL DOLLAR
AMOUNT OF THOSE.
SO WITH THAT WAS THE TOTAL
DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THIS THE ONE
POINT THREE BILLION DOLLARS
OKAY.
ARE FUNDS THAT CURRENTLY FUND
THEIR CAR CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM
LIKE YOU'VE HEARD OTHER.
FUNDS SO THEY THE DISCUSSION
THE DOJ ABOUT THE DECLINING
REVENUES I'M OUR OUR REVENUES
DOESN'T AFFECT THE BOND NO.
.
GENERAL FUND GEO BOND RATING OR
IS IT A SEPARATE.
PART OF THE HOUSE TO HAVE AN
IMPACT ON THE GEO BOND RATING AT
THE QUESTION. THREE OTHER DEAL
BONDS WERE ISSUED.
IS IT COME IS IT KIND OF A PART
OF THAT READING. ADJACENT HOUSE
DEPARTMENT FINDS IN GENERAL THE.
DURING THE PREPARATION FOR
ADDITIONAL LEASE REVENUE BONDS
WOULD AFFECT THE STATEWIDE
CREDIT RATING THE IN DEPTH
DISCREDIT SPREAD OF ABOUT A HALF
A PERCENT FOR LEASE REVENUE
BONDS BETWEEN GENERAL OBLIGATION
AND.
THE TREASURER YOU DECIDE HOW
MUCH OF EACH GET ISSUED AND A
SOUND ON THE AUTHORITY IN ITSELF
DOESN'T GENERALLY AFFECT YOUR
CREDIT RATING. SO IT IS IT'S
THEM BUT THE MONEY FOR THE
PAYMENT COMES FROM.
THE.
HOW DOES THE HOUSE THAT MONEY
SIR COOLEY AROUND AND TO PAY
INTO PAYING THE?
THE DEBT SERVICE ON A LOW HAS AS
ITS PROPOSED THE GENERAL FUND IS
PROPOSED TO BE THE SOURCE OF THE
REPAYMENT FOR THE BONDS THAT
WOULD BE ISSUED. WAS NOT A
GENERAL FUND ON.
NO SIR.
OKAY.
LET'S OBLIGATION THE GENERAL
FUND.
YES
OKAY.
ALRIGHT FISTED CLARIFY EN THE
BACKING FOR THE USES OUR DAY.
BUILDINGS THEMSELVES THAT'S THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LEASE
REVENUE AS OPPOSED TO THE
GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND.
THAT THE QUESTION THEREAFTER.
YEAH.
AND BONDS WHEN THEY'RE SOLD
LEASE REVENUE BONDS AND
DEGRADING SHOULD NOT BE AFFECTED
BECAUSE.
DEBT SERVICE CAN BE PAID FOR IT
FROM ANY AVAILABLE SOURCE WITHIN
THE DEPARTMENT'S OPERATING
BUDGET. WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION
HAS RECOGNIZED IS?
THE SOURCE THAT WAS
TRADITIONALLY USED TO PAY LEASE
THAT REVENUE DEBT SERVICE.
IT IS A DWINDLING SOURCE WITHOUT
MIND.
ARE MULTI YEAR FORECASTS M.
ASSUME IN GENERAL FUND IS GOING
TO HAVE TO PAY THE DEBT SERVICE
FOR THESE BONDS.
OKAY.
THEN DOG IT WON'T IT WON'T
INHIBITED.
DECISIONS TO.
ISSUE DEBT.
THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED OR
THE VOTERS HAVE APPROVED.
FOR THINGS LIKE SCHOOL THE
SCHOOL BONDS PROTECT CAREER OR
OTHER KINDS OF.
GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND DEBT. HE
WANTED IT WANTED HIM THAT.
.
THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE AN AFFECT
ON THAT AT ALL BECAUSE THOSE ARE
GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AT AT
PROVED BY VOTERS WHERE THESE ARE
WOULD BE A SEPARATE. AND CREDIT
LYING SECURED BY INTO
COURTHOUSES THEMSELVES.
OKAY AND DID YOU LOOK AT THE
CASH.
THEY GO OPTION FOR THESE
BUILDINGS.
YOU GENERALLY CAN'T TO ADDRESS
OR ARE YOU SAYING.
LIKE JUST UP FROM THE CASH
PERIOD AND NOT BOND FUND NO NO
I'M SAYING TO YOU ISSUE A
CONTRACT TO BUILD THE BUILDING
IF THEY THE CATCH TO. THE SUN
THAT CASH FLOW OF. THE AND LEASE
PURCHASE I'M SORRY.
.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T REALLY
THINK IS NECESSARY WITH A LOT OF
THESE AND BASICALLY IT WOULD BE
SO.
THE COST COULD BE VERY SIMILAR
USUALLY THEY'RE THEY'RE A LITTLE
BIT HIGHER WHO HAS THE INTEREST.
YOU PAY IT REALLY I MEAN. DE
DEVELOPER ISGONNA HAVE TO
FINANCE MOST LIKELY ANYWAY IN
THOSE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE
PASSED ON TO YOU SO YEAH YOU
DON'T PAY INTEREST BUT YOU. YOU
STILL PAY AN AMORTIZED LEASE
THAT INCLUDES.
OKAY OF THE DEVELOPERS FINANCING
IT'S USUALLY THE LANDS THAT'S A
DIFFERENCE WILL DO THE LEASE
PURCHASE IN AREAS WHERE WE
CANNOT FIND THE LAND AT ALL IN A
DEVELOPERS JUST SITTING ON THE
LAND AND SAYING BASICALLY. WILL
DEVELOPMENT FOR YOU AND GIVE YOU
THE LAND.
IN THESE CASES M.. ALL WAY AND
HAS ALREADY BEEN ACQUIRED AND
ALL OF THE SUDDEN COSTS EARLY IN
FOR THE DESIGN EFFORTS SO JUST
TO HAVE SOMEBODY CONSTRUCT IT
WOULDN'T BE EFFICIENT.
BUT A GOOD QUESTION FOR PROJECTS
THAT HADN'T STARTED IT ALL.
WELL I'M JUST LOOK AT THE.
SUBJECT OF FRED BROUGHT UP
EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT THE
DEPARTMENT CORRECTION SERVLET.
WE HAVE LIKE.
.
NO ONE TIME BALANCE.
CAPTION MAYBE THAT'S.
THE WAY OF NOT DOING DEAD.
AND FIXING BUILDINGS IN DOING
PROJECTS AND.
YOU KNOW NOT DOING THAT YOU KNOW
BUT INVOICE A DEAD BODY BECAUSE
WE HAVE THE MONEY.
NOT A VOTE THE.
NOT DOING THAT COULD BE. AN
OPTION TO LOOK AT. PRESSURE.
SO.
THAT'S WOMAN MENTOR I HAVE NO
FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THOSE.
THANK YOU SENATOR BELT.
THIS WAS GOOD TOLD AS AN ACTION
ITEM.
I'M.
ELLIE O. I KNOW WE HAD INDICATED
NOT COMMENT BUT BECAUSE IT IS
SCHEDULED AS AN ACTION ITEM IF
YOU.
WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO OUR
ATTENTION.
CONCERNS.
I'M A GREAT SO I AM IN RESPONSE
TO THE ORIGINAL QUOTE ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF
THE OF THE BONDS AND BASICALLY
FOR THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL THE
EQUIVALENT OF THAT ONE POINT
THREE BILLION. DOLLARS IS A
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN
ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE FOR ABOUT
TWENTY FIVE YEARS THAT QUESTION
WAS CAN LAST.
THE WHEN WE DID THE ASSESSMENT
OF THIS PROPOSAL WE LOOKED AT
THE TWO CONSTRUCTION ACCOUNTS
THERE THERE'S A STATE COURT
FACILITIES CONSTRUCTION FINDER
SCF CF AND THEN THERE'S THE
IMMEDIATE CRITICAL NEED TO
COUNTER AETNA.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE
PROPOSAL WE DID FIND THAT IT WAS
REASONABLE BECAUSE THE ONE POINT
THREE THAT WOULD BE LEASE
REVENUE BONDED. WE SAW AS AN
EFFECTIVE BACK FILL OF THE ONE
POINT FOUR BILLION THAT HAS BEEN
TAKEN FROM THE TO CONSTRUCTION
ACCOUNTS. FOR THE GENERAL FUND
OR FOR TRIAL COURT OPERATIONS
AND TODAY FIFTY FIVE POINT FIVE
MILLION CONTINUES TO BE
TRANSFERRED FROM THE
CONSTRUCTION ACCOUNTS TRUCKER
OPERATIONS.
HOWEVER WE WERE IN CLEAR YOU
KNOW WHILE THESE TEMPERATURES
ARE CLOSEST TO CONSTRUCTION.
WE WERE CLEAR THEY WERE OF THE
HIGHEST PRIORITY. ON.
THEY HAVE BEEN ASSESSED IN
SELECT ABOUT A DECADE AGO IN THE
LEGISLATURE WASN'T INVOLVED IN
THE PROCESS AND TO THE EXTENT
THEY WERE IT WAS UNCLEAR TO US
WHETHER THE SAME PROJECTS WOULD
HAVE BEEN SELECTED.
AND I THINK THE FINAL PIECE
WHERE WE HAD CONCERNS WAS THAT
THE AMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL
RELIGION PROVIDE A LONG TERM
SOLUTION TO SOME REALLY KEY
PROBLEMS.
AND SO THE FIRST PROBLEM AS
REFERENCED ON BY THE
ADMINISTRATION IS THAT BOTH OF
THE CONSTRUCTION ACCOUNTS
HA IF HAD A STEADY DECLINE IN
CRIMINAL AND CIVIL FINE IF YOU
REVENUE THAT HAS BEEN POSITIVE
OF THE PAST DECADE. THE SECOND
ISSUE IS BECAUSE OF THE TRANSFER
OF THE REVENUES OF THE DECLINE
IN REVENUES WE ACTUALLY HAVE
INSUFFICIENT FUNDS TO SUPPORT
OUR EXISTING OBLIGATIONS IF WE
DON'T CHANGE OUR CURRENT
EXPENDITURES. AND SO WHEN WE
LOOKED AT IT.
THE BOTH FUNDS ARE SCHEDULED TO
GO INSOLVENT IN A FEW YEARS AND
THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY ACTUALLY
REQUIRE THE GENERAL FUND TO
PROVIDE A BACK FILL. OF NINETY
TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION
DOLLARS ANNUALLY FOR ABOUT
FIFTEEN YEARS.
AND THE FINAL CONCERN THAT WE
HAD. WAS THAT THERE WAS NO LONG
TERM PLAN.
FOR HOW ANY FUTURE PROJECTS
WOULD BE FUNDED UNTIL QUIRK AND
THE JUDICIAL BRANCH OF THE
NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT ARE.
EITHER ON HOLDER INDEFINITELY
DELAYED AND SO THOSE WERE KIND
OF THE KEY PROBLEMS THAT WE WERE
LOOKING AT.
COME THROUGH IN THE INTEREST OF
TIME WE DID RECOMMEND ON PAGE
THIRTY SEVEN OF YOUR AGENDA.
KIND OF OVERHAULING THE SYSTEM
AND SO THEREFORE CANNOT
COMPONENTS WHICH INVOLVES
SHIFTING BOTH
THE FUNDING RESPONSIBILITY FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION ACCOUNTS AS
WELL AS ALL THE REVENUES THAT
WOULD HAVE BEEN DEPOSITED OVER
TO THE GENERALFUND SO REVENUES
WOULD STILL BE AVAILABLE TO
OFFSET ANY DEBT SERVICE.
THE PROJECTS ARE REALLY MOVE
FORWARD BASED ON LEGISLATIVE
PRIORITIES RATHER THE AMOUNT OF
REVENUE THAT WAS AVAILABLE SOME
TOP OF THAT THE LEGISLATURE
WOULD BE CLEARLY AWARE OF WHAT
THAT GENERAL FUND OBLIGATION
WOULD BE. FROM THE GET GO WHEN
THE APPROVE THE PROJECT.
TO THE EXTENT THE LEGISLATURE
WAS NOT INTERESTED IN
OVERHAULING AND THE ENTIRE
SYSTEM AT THIS TIME WE DID
RECOMMEND ON PAGES THIRTY EIGHT
AND THIRTY NINE OF YOUR US OUR
THIRTY EIGHT OF YOUR AGENDA.
FIVE MODIFICATIONS TO THE
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL AND AT A
HIGH LEVEL IT INVOLVES
CONSOLIDATING THE TWO ACCOUNTS
AS I MENTIONED A LIKELY BECOME
INSOLVENT.
TERMINATING THAT FIFTY FIVE
POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLAR
TRANSFER FROM THE CONSTRUCTION
ACCOUNTS THE TRIAL COURT
OPERATIONS AND INSTEAD PROVIDING
THOSE RESOURCES FROM THE GENERAL
FUND.
PROVIDING THE EQUIVALENT
TRANSFER IN THE EQUIVALENT OF
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL HUNDRED
AND TWO MILLION.
ANNUALLY FROM THE GENERAL FUND
FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS INTO THIS
NEW CONSOLIDATED ACCOUNT BUT
REQUIRE THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL
ADDRESS ANY EXISTING OBLIGATIONS
BEFORE APPROVING ANY NEW
PROJECTS.
FOR ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION
PROPOSALS THAT DO.
COME FORWARD WE DO RECOMMEND
REQUIRING A JUDICIAL COUNCILS
THEM IN A LONG TERM FUND
CONDITIONS STATEMENT TO
DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY'RE
SUFFICIENT.
FUNDING TO SUPPORT EXISTING
OBLIGATIONS INTO ANY NEW ONES
AND FINALLY DIRECTED USUAL
HOUSEHOLD TO DO A REASSESSMENT
TO MAKE SURE. THAT THE PROJECTS
OF HIGHEST NEED ARE IDENTIFIED.
BETTER GO. WAIT FOR THE NEXT TEN
YEARS.
PAGE THIRTY SIX OKAY OF ALL.
OF.
WHAT'S THE VALUE OF ALL THE
PROJECTS YOU HAVE ON THE.
LIST.
WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE YOU GOT A?
S. SIMILAR WOULD BE.
YOU MEAN THE TEN THAT ARE
PERFECT FROZE FOR THE ARMY AND
THE WHOLE THING THEY WANT TO DO
OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS I'M I'M
LOOKING AT.
THIS LIVES THEY'RE PROBABLY
LOOKING AT.
YOU KNOW I'LL A HEROES SEE THAT
THE ISSUE HAS.
OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS COMING
BACK EVERY YEAR.
AND ASKING FOR MORE DEBT SERVICE
EVERY YEAR I GUESS THAT'S WHAT.
WOULD HAPPEN RIGHT.
WE GONNA DO REVENUE BONDS. EVERY
EVERY YEAR MAY.
RIGHT.
IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE RESOURCES
THAT.
OF THE STATE AND THE PRIORITIES
OF THE STATE ON A LOOKS LIKE
THEY HAVE A LONG LIST OF
PROJECTS I ASSUME THAT. THE BE.
WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS CAUGHT
BUDGET PRESSURE WHEN WE DO OUR?
PROPOSAL'S SO IT IS IT IS LIKE
THEY GOT SOME PROJECTS HERE.
LINED UP.
EVERYONE I MEAN ONES THAT ARE
THE IN OURS THE GROUP CALLED
INDEFINITELY DELAY MATTER OF
COLD PROPOSED FUNDED AND
EIGHTEEN NINETEEN NINETEEN
TWENTY AND THEN. TURNED.
BECAUSE I HAD HEARD. AND
HOPEFULLY.
YEAH.
KELSO COMPLETED OUR OUR ICE IN
THERE OUGHT TO REALLY START
NUMBER FIFTEEN BUT WERE YEAH.
SO THAT'S A FIFTEEN THROUGH
FORTY ONE ADDRESS.
THOSE LIKE WHAT'S THE VALUE OF
THOSE.
HOW MUCH YOU WHICH I GUESS?
ANNABEL MY COURT AGAIN WITH
FACILITIES FOR THOSE THREE
CATEGORIES YOU MENTION OKAY SO
THE INDEFINITELY DELAYED THOSE
PROJECTS WERE CANCELED.
IN TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN AND
TWELVE.
SAYS INDEFINITELY DELAYED IT
DOESN'T SAY CANCEL WEALTH BUT
WERE INDEFINITELY DELAYED WE
THEY'RE NO LONGER UP FOR
CONSIDERATION IN OUR REMAINING
SP FOURTEEN OF SEVEN
AUTHORIZATION.
THE WHOLE PROJECTS LATER IN THE
BUDGET.
I'M SORRY WHAT IS AN ASSAY
CANCELED ABOVE.
IN THE THE THE THE NEXT GROUP
PROJECTS
ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE
BUDGET PROPOSAL AND IN THE END
UNDETERMINED STATUS.
OF.
ARE CURRENTLY ON HOLD BECAUSE WE
HAVE NO FUNDING FOR THOSE
PROJECTS AND. THAT THEY WOULD
NEED TO BE RE PRIORITIZED AND
PRESENTED IN THE FUTURE BUT
THEIR PLAN THERE IN THE PLANNING
PROCESS.
THEY WERE PROJECTS THAT WERE
PREVIOUSLY IN THE PLANNING
PROCESS AND WERE STOPPED DUE TO
THE OTHER READY THE OTHER
INTERNET READY FOR THE NEXT STEP
IN CERTAIN TERMS OF.
DESIGN AND SO FORTH.
THAT'S CORRECT YEAH IN SOME IN
SOME CASES WE HAVE ACQUIRED LAND
pOTHER CASES WE DO NOT OWN LAND.
ALRIGHT.
SO THESE ARE KIND OF LIKE THE
NEXT WAVE OF PROJECTS.
AFTER THE AFTER THE INDEFINITELY
DELAYED PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE
THIS OTHER GROUP OF.
KELLY HELPS LIKE VARIOUS WAYS.
YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE
DIFFERENT. AREAS OF THE ONCE
COST.
THE CATEGORIES YOU HAVE AN IDEA
YOU FOR THE INDEFINITE LATE I
DON'T ON THAT FOR THE
UNDETERMINED STATUS.
FOR DIFFICULTY.
PUT A NUMBER ON IT BUT CERTAINLY
FOR FIVE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR
RANGE.
FORTIFIED BILLION.
SO I THINK THE.
YEAH BURMESE THE ISSUE.
BUT THE LA.
BROUGHT UP WAS.
THE MY COMPELLING WHICH IS THAT
THIS.
WE'RE BEING ASKED NOW.
TO EVEN THAT YES THERE SHOVEL
READY. BUT TO BASICALLY SAY YES
TO. GIVE A GREEN LIGHT TO
PROJECTS THAT WERE PLAN MORTON
TEN YEARS AGO.
THAT.
MAYOR MAY NOT HAVE AS MUCH.
.
NEED FOR IN THERE MAYBE ONCE IN
THE SAY UNDETERMINED STATUS THAT
POTENTIALLY THERE'S A GREATER
NEED FOR. AGAIN DEPENDING ON
WHAT CRITERIA ONE WOULD BE
USING.
AND THAT.
.
THERE HASN'T BEEN THAT
ASSESSMENT SINCE THAT TIME.
AMOUNT CHAIRED THE CRITERIA THAT
WAS USED OFFERS THESE ARE OUR
TEN HIGHEST PRIORITY PROJECTS
WAS A BLESSING WORK GREATER
ROBOT SEVENTY MILLION DOLLARS
APPROPRIATED SPENT ON THOSE TEN
YES BUT USING WHAT CRITERIA IN
TERMS OF THE OF THE CRITERIA
THAT WAS USED TO EVALUATE ALL OF
THESE PROJECTS.
WAS OF SECURITY CRITERIA WHICH
IS HOW.
VERY PORTS STAFF RATE IN
BECAUSE THE DEFENDANTS AND THE
PUBLIC ARE SEPARATED IN
COURTHOUSE
RIGHT PHYSICAL SIZE OF THE
CHORUS OF THE OVERCROWDING
ASPECT. COMPARED TO OUR DESIGN
GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS WE HAVE
FOR NEW COURT CONSTRUCTION
TODAY.
I'M THE PHYSICAL HAZARDS OF THE
BUILDINGS.
SO THE ACTUAL CONDITION OF THE
BUILDINGS LOOKING AT ALL FAIRLY
SAFETY SEISMIC.
FEDERAL BUILDING ENVELOPE
ETCETERA.
AND FINALLY AN ASSESSMENT OF
THE.
.
THE NEED FOR THE THE WORKLOAD IN
THAT PARTICULAR COURT WORK WORK
WORK LOCATION.
YEAH YOU DID OF.
THINK LIKE YOU GIVE A SOMETHING
LIKE ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO FOUR
YEARS AGO.
OVERVIEW ASSESSMENT ALL THE
COURTHOUSES.
IT WAS LIKE A STRUCTURE WILL
COME IN.
ETCETERA.
.
SEC ASSESSMENT OF.
HERE OF WHETHER NOT TO REPAIR OR
REPLACE THESE.
JANA YOU KNOW THAT THAT WAS DONE
LIKE WHAT ABOUT FOUR FIVE YEARS
AGO ALL THE FACILITIES IN THE
BUDGET WILL HAVE.
RESEARCHERS SEISMIC.
YEAH THEY ARE. PARTLY.
YEAH A BUSTLING IT WOULD SAY IS
THAT THE TERM PROJECTS WERE ALL
RATED AT THE TOP OF THE S. B.
FORTINOS SOME PROGRAM.
WE.
RE EXAMINE THEM THE SAME AND HE
LOOKED AT IT TODAY THE CRITERIA
ON WHICH THE THREE OF THE FOUR
CRITERIA. REMAIN UNCHANGED RIGHT
LEBANON PUT INTO THOSE PROJECTS.
AND YET THE SOME OF THE AREAS
HAVE HAD POPULATION DROPS. THAT
TIME PERIOD.
AND OTHER AREAS ON EITHER
INDETERMINATE OR WHATEVER HAVE
HAD POPULATION INCREASES.
POPULATION DROPS THREE OR
INCREASES DON'T ALWAYS PUT. NEW
PRESSURES ARE NEEDED BANDS ON
COURT HOUSES BUT OFTEN DO.
ON.
A LOT OF MONEY WOULD IT.
SOON AFTER.
TO HOLD.
DOESN'T HURT.
ONE HEARD A FAINT YEAH SPOILED.
LAST ITEM.
CAPITAL OUTLAY SPRING LETTERS.
BOB I'M SORRY DID ANYONE WANT TO
SPEAK ON THAT LAST ITEM
POLITICIANS.
VERY BRIEFLY MADAM CHAIR AND
CENTER BELL ELIZABETH ESPINOSA
HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS SUPPORT
FOR THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL TO
RENEW THE COURTHOUSE
CONSTRUCTION I'M. REPRESENTING
THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE THIS IS
IN RECOGNITION OF THE VERY
INTERDEPENDENT FUNCTIONS BETWEEN
THE COURTING COUNTY IN THE. THE
COUNTY VIEWS.
ACCESS TO JUSTICE IS VERY
SIGNIFICANT AND WE NEED A MODERN
AND STATE COURT HOUSES TO BE
ABLETO SERVE OUR CONSTITUENTS
WHO THINK YOU.
YEAH.
GO AHEAD.
I'M THERE WE HAVE TO US BRING
VIOLENCE CENTER BUDGET CHANGE
PROPOSALS WHEN RELATED TO THEIR
NEW STOCKTON COURTHOUSE. IN
ORDER TO COMPLETE A PAYMENT OF
SUMMER.
REMAINING A COSTS ON THE PROJECT
WE NEED TO EXTEND THE
LIQUIDATION PERIOD.
SECONDLY IS RELATED ALAMEDA.
EAST HARLEM.
HALL JUSTICE DATA CENTER WE NEED
INITIAL APPROPRIATION TO
COMPLETE THAT AND.
ASSIST THE.
THE CORD INTO COMPLETING THIS
PROJECT.
WE APPRECIATE THE STAFF
RECOMMENDATION IMPROVE THE.
REQUEST.
OKAY.
FARM IN THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS
WILL NOT ONLY THEIR OWN OTHER
BUSINESSES. OKAY BUT YOU KNOW.
MOTION I'M OF IT.
GREAT THROUGH THE SPRINKLERS
PROCOL THIS IS ON THE CAPITAL AT
LEAST BRING LETTERS ON THE
STAFF.
THAT THERE SKINNER.
I OR ANDERSON.
THINK ABOUT.
ALRIGHT.
.
RIGHT THAT. ANY OTHER PUBLIC
COMMENT.
ALRIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE.
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