GOOD MORNING SIR IF THE DELAY
BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE FOUR WILL
CALL THE.
.
SUBCOMMITTEE TO ORDER.
.
UNTIL WE GETA QUORUM WILL GO
AHEAD AND PROCEED NOW TO HOLD
INDIVIDUALS UP WE'RE GONNA START
WITH.
ITEM ZERO EIGHT SIX ZERO BOARD
OF EQUALIZATION.
ISSUE NUMBER ONE.
STATE TAX AGENCY REORGANIZATION.
SALOMEA ALL I HAVE TO MEMBERS
HERE.
WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE HOW ARE YOU
ALL GOOD.
THAT'S WILL HAVE THE.
TEAMS IDENTIFY THEMSELVES
STARTING TO MY LEFT WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE FOR THE
RECORD PLEASE.
BRAZIL DEPARTMENT FINANCE.
BOB.
YOU GENTLEMAN.
YEAH SUCH CHRISTINE LEGISLATIVE
ANALYST'S OFFICE.
ARE YOU MA'AM GOOD TO SEE YOU
BACK.
OKAY.
WHO WANTS TO PERCENT YOU WILL
NOTE THIS IS A?
ALTHOUGH TO OPEN ITEM SO WE WILL
NOT BE TAKING ACTION ON THIS
TODAY.
THAT'S ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES.
HAS A DIFFERENT IDEA THAT'S AT
LEAST A STAFF RECOMMENDATION SO
LET'S GO AHEAD AND THINK IT'S
HARD TO CONVERSATION AND
HOPEFULLY MY TEAM WILL GET HERE
SOON.
THANK YOU THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
I'M GLAD TO BE HERE I'M GEORGE
RUNNER I'M CURRENTLY THE CHAIR
OF THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
WITH ME ALSO IS BEING A MOM WHO
SERVED RIGHT NOW IS THE VICE
CHAIR.
OF THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION
ALSO WITH US ON A WE HAVE A
REPRESENTATIVES FROM MEMBER
PORTENTS OFFICE.
COREY HIM IN AND ALSO FROM A
MEMBER HER KEYS OFFICE AT LEAST
THREE NINETY. IS OFFICE ALSO
HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WE ALSO
HAVE DEAN KITTY THE E. D.
IMPRINT FLEMING CHIEF DEPUTY. OR
ALSO HERE IF YOU NEED ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN
REGARDS TO THAT THE BE A WEEK SO
ANYBODY LEFT OVER THE OTHERS
HAVE.
IT IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF WHO
WE HAVE RIGHT NOW GOES.
ANY OTHER LIMIT IT WILL BE A
DRASTIC A COUPLE OF THINGS FIRST
OF ALL.
WEAPPRECIATE.
THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE
THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON
BOTH WITHIN THE LEGISLATURE AND
ALSO IN REGARDS TO THE
CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WITH
FINANCE.
AND ALSO WITH THE LA OWES
OFFICES WE DEAL WITH THE ISSUE
OF STAFFING.
AND THE REPORTS THAT HAVE COME
OUT.
THERE'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY A LOT TO
DEAL OF INTEREST IN AND AND
WE'RE RESPONDING BASICALLY TO
THE REQUEST THAT THE LEGISLATURE
MADE LAST YEAR REGARDS TO REPORT
THE FINANCE MADE IN REGARDS TO
STAFFING LEVELS.
AND.
THE APPROPRIATENESS WITHIN THE
NEW FOOTPRINT THAT THE BE.
WE HOUSE.
AND SO WE THAT THAT'S BEEN
GOING VERY WELL I THINK
GENERALLY SPEAKING.
THE FACT IS THAT WE UNDERSTAND
WE'RE FINANCES COMING FUND WE DO
AGREE IN TERMS OF THE ISSUE OF
OF SMALLER FOOTPRINT. WE DO.
WE DO HOWEVER AND WE ALL AND I
THINK ALL MEMBERS HAVE BOUGHT
OFF ON THE IDEA OF EIGHT WE
THINK EIGHT IS THAT WERE DOABLE
ISSUE IN REGARDS TO THE NATURE
OF WHAT WE DO. AYE AND DIE THINK
WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
FLEXIBILITY IN THE NATURE IN THE
MAKE UP OF THOSE EIGHT WHICH WE
CAN GO INTO AND HAVE A
DISCUSSION ON.
I THINK THAT THOSE ARE ALL
ISSUES WE'VE HAD AND AGAIN I
WANT TO. UP APPRECIATE.
FINANCES LATEST LAST NIGHT
HAVING DISCUSSIONS ON IN REGARDS
TRYING TO GET CLARITY AND
UNDERSTANDING IN REGARDS TO THE
ROLE IN THE AND THE JOB
POSITIONS AND CIVIL SERVICE
VERSUS EXEMPT AND. I APPRECIATE
THEM TRYING TO TO TO AGAIN HOME
THEIR ARGUMENTS AND AND THEIR
DISCUSSIONS.
I THINK THAT'S ONE ISSUE THE
OTHER ISSUE THAT WE WANNA THAT
THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AND
THAT IS THAT WHAT WE DO FOR
TRANSITION.
BECAUSE THE FACT IS WE HAVE X.
AMOUNT WILL WITHOUT TALK TALK
ABOUT THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS
WITHIN THE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW WE
HAVE TWELVE POSITIONS.
AND ACCORDING THEN TO THE
BUDGET ACT THAT'S BEING
RECOMMENDED ON THAT GOES DOWN TO
EIGHT THE RAF ACT IS THAT THERE
ARE REAL PEOPLE IN THOSE
POSITIONS.
AND SO WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT
THE ISSUE HOW WE TRANSITION.
FROM GOING FROM THAT TWELVE TO
TO THAT EIGHT OR WHATEVER THAT
NUMBER MAY BE.
AND IN OUR POSITION WE WOULD
BELIEVE THAT THE BEST WAY TO DO
THAT IS TAKE THIS YEAR THAT HALF
OF THIS YEAR TRANSITION INTO
JANUARY FIRST.
LET PEOPLE FINISH OUT AS THEY
COMMITTED TO IN REGARDS THEIR
HIRING THAT WAS DONE BY THE
MEMBERS IT JUST SEEMS TO MAKE
SENSE WE DON'T LOSE ANYBODY IN
THAT PROCESS. AGAIN SOME OF
THOSE POSITIONS ARE THE VACANT
SO IF THERE MAKE IT THEY CAN'T
BE FILLED DURING THAT TIME OR
THEY BECOME VACANT DURING THAT
TIME THEY WOULD BE FILLED WE
JUST THINK THAT'S REASONABLE
HUMANE PROCESS TO.
TO WORK WITH AND SO THAT'S THE
OTHER ISSUE THAT E WOULD WE
WOULD BE DEALING WITH A MEMBER
HORTON I THINK IS GIVING YOU A
NUMBER OF LETTERS AND NOW HAS A
DECLARATION. IN REGARDS TO WHAT
HE'S IDENTIFIED IN REGARDS TO
POTENTIAL ISSUES AND CONCERNS IN
REGARDS THE ELECTED INDIVIDUAL.
DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF OF A
CIVIL SERVANT STAFF I THINK
THERE'S SOME VERY IMPORTANT
DISCUSSIONS THAT HE'S REYES
THERE THAT I'M SURE YOU GUYS
WILL BE. TAKING A LOOK AT AS AS
YOU DEAL WITH THAT.
LET ME JUST SPEAK TO ON THE
FIRST TO THE ISSUE OF THE HOW
WOULD THAT THE BREAKDOWN A
STAFF.
RIGHT NOW THE RECOMMENDATION
FROM FINANCE IS TO GO WITH TWO
EXAMS AND THEN AND SIX SO CIVIL
SERVANTS.
THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN
THE THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO
GO AGAIN THAT THINK EMPHASIZES
GREATER FLEXIBILITY ON THE PART
OF THE STAMPING FOR FOR BOARD
MEMBERS.
I THINK FOR THE MOST PART WE
WOULD BELIEVE THAT HAVING TO.
TO HONE THAT DOWN BACK A LITTLE
BIT TO HAVE FLIPPING OUT TO
GOING FOR EXEMPT AND FOR THAT
EXEMPT OF SOME KIND INCLUDING C.
A.. R. IT IN THAT EXEMPTS
BUCKET.
WOULD BE A MUCH MORE REASONABLE.
FLEXIBILITY WITHIN WITHIN
OFFICES IN AND FOR CIVIL
SERVANTS WE BELIEVE THAT'S A
MUCH MORE REASONABLE WAY FOR US
THE OF IT IS THE SAME PERCENTAGE
OF STAFF THAT WE HAVE THIS
CURRENTLY. WE HAVE SIX AND SIX
NOW GOING TO TO OF FOREIGN FOR
WE THINK GIVES US THAT GREATER
FLEXIBILITY.
PART OF THE ISSUES I THINK MAYBE
COULD WRITE FOR DISCUSSION AND
THAT IS THE ROLE. I THINK A LOT
OF TIMES WE LOOK AT THE FOOT THE
THE FOOTPRINT NOW YOU SAY WELL
HERE THERE'S BEEN THIS REDUCTION
HERE. LET'S ROLL LESS
RESPONSIBILITY THEREFORE THAT
SHOULD BE REFLECTED AND AGAIN.
LET ME SPEAK I GUESS TO THAT
ISSUE ARMS WHILE THE ROLE IN THE
FOOTPRINT HAS BEEN LIMITED
OBVIOUSLY.
THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE
THAT HAVE BEEN EXPANDED.
AND AGAIN I DON'T KNOW IF THIS
WAS IN I DON'T THINK THIS WAS
NATIONALLY THE INTENTION I THINK
THIS IS JUST THE NATURAL
OUTCOME.
IN THE PAST FOR ITS IMAGES COULD
GIVE A CUP OF EXAMPLES WHEN WE
WERE TO DO A SEMINAR.
WE RESPONSE OR SEMINAR.
WE HAVE AN OUTREACH GROUP WITHIN
WITHIN THE AGENCY THAT ACTUALLY
THEN DID A LOT OF THAT LEG WORK
THEY DID THE CONTRACTS THEY DID
ALL THE KINDS OF THINGS THEY DID
THE OUTREACH BUT YOU. KNOW TO
THE TO THE TO THE COMMUNITY ALL
THOSE ISSUES THE MAILING THEY
DID ALL THAT.
WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT ABILITY.
SO NOW ALL THAT HAS TO COME WITH
AN IN HOUSE
WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE STAFF TO
GO AHEAD AND DO THOSE KIND OF
OUTREACH SEMINARS.
THAT WE DEAL WITH AGAIN NOT
THAT THEN TAKES EXPERTISE WEB
DESIGN IS AN INTERESTING ONE. WE
USED TO BUILD A CALL THEN OF THE
IT FOLKS IF WE WANT TO POST A
ANY.
SOMETHING ON THE ON THE
INTERNET OR ON A WEBSITE WE NOW
THEY'RE TELLING US SO NO.
TO GET WHAT YOU NEED IS YOU NEED
SOMEBODY IT WITHIN YOUR OFFICE
THAT KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT.
AND AGAIN THAT'S PRESSURE ON US
WE WANT TO PRINT SOMETHING
WE STEP THE WHOLE PRINT SHOP
THAT WE COULD CALL ON THAT WOULD
IMPROVE THAT. IN ESSENCE NOW WE
DON'T HAVE THAT SO WE HAVE TO
ACTUALLY COME UP WITH THE DESIGN
WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH OF HOW
TO PRINT IT WE HAVE DIFFERENT.
PRE HOW DISTRIBUTED ALL THOSE
THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO
OURSELVES BECAUSE WE NO LONGER
HAVE THE INSTITUTIONAL SUPPORT.
SO ONCE IT'S THE FOOTPRINTS
LIMITED BUT SO HAVE OUR
RESOURCES.
THE BEST KINDS OF FOLKS TO HELP
US WITH THOSE KIND OF ISSUES ARE
INDEED THE EXEMPT KIND OF
INDIVIDUAL.
THAT WAY GOES GOOD GIVEN
CRITICISM GIVE US GREATER
FLEXIBILITY GIVE ME GO TO THE
ISSUE OF FOR INSTANCE THE WAY
IT'S LAID OUT RIGHT. RIGHT NOW
THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT RIGHT NOW
IS THERE ISN'T. IN THE CIVIL
SERVICE STAFF EACH OFFICE USES
BEEN ASSIGNED IN THIS IN THE IN
THE SCENARIO.
TO.
TAX COUNSEL THREES.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO COUNT
TAX COUNSEL THREES I THINK ONE
IS SUFFICIENT.
THE PROBLEM IS AND THAT'S WHY WE
WOULD SAY THAT'S ONE THAT COULD
TRADE EASILY FOR THE ISSUE OF A
OF A AN EXEMPT POSITION.
PART OF THE ISSUE IS AGAIN IT'S
SO LIMITED EVEN FOR THE ONE THAT
WE HAVE THE ONLY PERSON WHO YOU
CAN GO OUT AND HIRE IN TRYING TO
DEAL WITH THE NICK ISN'T AS A
TAX HEALTH OF THREE. WHO CAN
INTERVIEW THAT POSITION IS
SOMEBODY WHO IS CURRENTLY
ACCOUNT TAX COUNSEL THROUGH TO?
IT SO YOU HAVE A VERY LIMITED
POOL AND AND AND AND IN THAT
CASE I THINK WHEN WE NEED TO
BUILD EXPAND THEN OUT. THE OTHER
JUDGES MUST SPEAK TO AND THAT IS
THE ISSUE OF CONSTITUENTS
SERVICES.
WE ARE ELECTED WE HAVE NINE AND
A HALF MILLION CONSTITUENTS.
LAST YEAR AND THE LAST NUMBER OF
YEARS WE'VE RECEIVED OVER FOUR
WE DID WE DID FOUR THOUSAND
FOLLOW UPS WITH CONSIDER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY DOES
THEIR CONSTITUENT ISSUES BY KNOW
HOW I DO MY.
WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS WE DON'T DO
JUST DON'T REFERRAL.
WE FOLLOW UP ON THOSE
INDIVIDUALS WE MAKE SURE THEY
ARE THE NEEDS ARE MET WE TAKE
THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
ESPECIALLY WITH TAX ISSUES
TAX ISSUES OR PROFOUNDLY
DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE.
AND SO THEN WE NEED THE UP BOTH
THE EXPERTISE IN OUR OFFICE PLUS
WE BUILD IN THE THE NUMBER OF
STAFF IN ORDERTO TAKE THEM
THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
WE'RE GETTING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW
PEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDING TO SHOW
UP BEFORE HEARINGS.
WHAT WE NO LONGER TO THE
HEARINGS BUT I BELIEVE IT'S MY
JOB TO HELP THEM PREPARE FOR
THAT HEARING?
I THINK LAST YEAR'S WE TALKED
ABOUT THAT ONE OF THINGS THAT
THERE IS A CONFLICT I THINK THAT
THAT SENATOR YOU POINTED OUT.
AND THAT IS YOU FELT THAT THERE
WAS THIS PROFOUND CONFLICT
BETWEEN OUR JOB AS HELPING BEING
AN ADVOCATE FOR TAXPAYERS AND US
BEING THE JUDGE FOR TAXPAYERS.
WELL WE NO LONGER THE JUDGE FOR
TAXPAYERS
BUT WE DO NEED THE RESOURCES TO
BE THERE ADVOCATE.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY
WHAT IS THIS THAT WE WOULD SAY
OR THEY ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE
IMPORTANT TO US.
I THINK ALTERNATE OVER TO.
NUMBER MODERATE YOUR MIND
COMMENTS THAT SHE WOULD HAVE TO
I WILL SAVE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO
BE ANY.
DISAGREEMENT
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT
FROM ME.
AND THE FACT THAT ARE EIGHT IS
THE RIGHT NUMBER FROM HIM.
AT LEAST FOR RIGHT NOW I MEAN
ARE IS A YOU KNOW BUDGET SIR.
ARE YEAR TO YEAR GUYS SAYING US
AND AND YOUR WORKLOAD.
AS BE ONLY MEMBERS AND AS THE
BEER WE AS AN ENTITY.
AND THE TAX AND FEE
ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT FOR
THAT MATTER ARE IN TRANSITION
AND. AS WE TAKE CONTINUING
SNAPSHOTS OF THIS YEAR TO YEAR
THERE MAY NEED TO BE ADJUSTMENTS
RIGHT.
.
THIS YEAR WE'RE LOOKING IS A
DOWNWARD ADJUSTMENT THEIR MAIL
ULTIMATELY NEED TO BE AN UPWARD
ADJUSTMENT DEPENDING ON WHAT.
HAPPENS AT THE BO IAN WHAT
HAPPENS WITH YOU SO. ON IT I'D
MY PER I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON.
THE EXEMPT ISSUE OF PRIMARILY
YOU I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF
OF.
MADAM VICE CHAIR BECAUSE YOU
PROBABLY.
SOME OF THOSE ISSUES TO.
TALK ABOUT AYE I DO WANT TO
COME BACK TO THIS ISSUE ABOUT
WHY.
MEMBER OFFICES ARE NOT ABLE TO
GET SUPPORT FROM THE VIDEO WE AS
AN ENTITY.
WITH OF SUCH ISSUES AS A WEBSITE
OTHER.
SUPPORT TO MEAN YOU ARE ELECTED
MEMBERS OF A PARTICULAR BOARD
THAT IS OF AN ENTITY THAT HAS A
LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET AND WHY.
WE'RE NOT FUNDING THAT TO
SUPPORT YOUR ACTIVITIES
WHEN THEY CLEARLY CONSTITUTE
STATE BUSINESS.
IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO REVISIT
BECAUSE IT WILL COME BACK TO
THAT THANK YOU YES MA'AM OKAY SO
I AM I WOULD JUST FOCUS MAYBE A
LITTLE BIT ON THE.
SO HOT LIKE ALL OF YOU.
WHEN YOU GOT ELECTED YOU HIRE
THE PEOPLE THAT YOU THOUGHT WERE
BEST GOING TO SERVE YOUR
CONSTITUENTS WHAT SIMILAR TO
PASS AS WELL.
SO BY LIMITING US TO CIVIL
SERVANTS.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU GET
ELECTED BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO GO
PICK SOMEONE FROM THE POOL. OF
PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T
NECESSARILY KNOW MAYBE YOU
HAVEN'T WORKED OUT WITH THEM I
HAVE.
MANY STAFF THAT HAVE FOLLOWED
ME FROM THE ASSEMBLY.
YOU KNOW TO THIS BALL RIGHT
HERE AND NOW WE DON'T JUST WORK
A NINE T FIVE JOB SO IT'S
BASICALLY WHATEVER IT TAKES OUT
MY COMMUNITY ON THE WEEKENDS. ON
AND IF YOU ASK US CIVIL SERVANTS
TO WORK UP.
OVER TIME I MEAN IT'S A CONFLICT
RIGHT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE
WORKING FOR YOU BUT THEY ALSO
HAVE TO BE FOLLOWING THE CIVIL
SERVICE RULES. SO FOR ME THAT
DOESN'T WORK AS WELL AS HAVING A
EXEMPTS.
EMPLOYEES OUT ONE OF MY STAFF
MEMBERS FOR EXAMPLE IS VERY BUSY
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'M DOING A
LOT OF CHINESE PRESS.
AND SO I TELL EVERYONE IF THEY
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOU
KNOW WHERE TO GET YOUR FREE TAX
FILINGS YOU KNOW YOUR EITC
PROPERTY TAXES. CALL MY OFFICE
AND SHE FIELDS CALLS ALL DAY
LONG NOT JUST NINETY FIVE AND
SHE GOES OUT MY COMMUNITY AND
AND REPRESENTS ME AT AT THESE
COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
SO.
WE STILL ARE DOING THAT LIKE.
OF MR RUNNER SAID WE STILL
REPRESENT NINE AND A HALF
MILLION PEOPLE I REPRESENT
TWENTY THREE DISTRICTS HE
REPRESENTS THIRTY DISTRICTS. ON
IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST DON'T
ANSWER THE PHONE.
WE ACTUALLY WALK PEOPLE THROUGH
IT I WAS A DISTRICT
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN BURTON AND I
WOULD TAKE THE INFORMATION YOU
KNOW MAKE SURE. YOU KNOW WOULD
WOULD FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT
SPECIFIC AGENCY MAKE SURE THEY
GOT BACK TO THEM MAKE SURE.
YOU KNOW THEIR CASE WAS
ACTUALLY ARM HANDLE NOT JUST
HATE CALL THE FRANCHISE TAX
BOARD SEE LATER. ON THAT'S NOT
WHAT WE DO.
EVEN AS ELECTED OFFICIALS IN
THIS ROLE.
AND THEN MR RUNNER DID SAY WE
DO YOU STILL GO OUT TO.
EVENTS.
WERE STILL ACTIVE OUT THERE WE
TELL EVERYONE TO CALL US WE ALL
HAVE NEWSLETTERS WE PASS OUT A
BUSINESS CARD LET ME PEOPLE ARE
ALWAYS CALLING US.
ARE ON DIFFERENT CONSTITUENT
ISSUES I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD
THAT.
THREE HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY ALSO
ON LEGISLATION SPONSORING
LEGISLATION.
SO HERE'S SOME OF THE ONES WE
ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW UP
PROPERTY TAX POSTPONEMENT
PROGRAM. OF THE MANUFACTURED
HOMES WAS NOT ADDED INTO THE
PROPERTY TAX POSTPONEMENT FOR
SENIOR DISABLED.
HOMEOWNERS AND SO WE ARE.
WORKING ON THAT THE RAPE KIT
BACKLOG FUNDING OUT WE PASSED IT
LAST YEAR THAT'S THE CHECK OFF
BOX ON YOUR FRANCHISE TAX BOARD.
CREATED THE TAX OF A CHECK OFF.
AND SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO.
TO ADVOCATE IN AND ENCOURAGE
EVERYONE TO PLEASE.
USE SOME OF YOUR.
MAYBE DONATIONS TO A CHECK OFF
ONE OF THE TWENTY FIVE BOXES
WE HAVEN'T OFFERS IN COMPROMISE
EXPANSION SIMILAR. OUGHT TO THE
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD. I MEAN THE
IRS FIRST TIME ABATEMENT BILL.
I'M WORKING ON A CANNABIS BANK
OUT SO THAT WE CAN.
CREATE MORE TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY AND AND GET
CANNABIS MONEY OFF OF THE.
A STREETS.
.
WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON A NOT YET
TEAK PAYMENT. OF FOR CANNABIS.
LAST YEAR WE WAIVE THE MEDICAL
AYE IF YOU PAY YOUR TAXES FOR
MEDICAL PURPOSES.
IN YOUR SALES TAX YOU DID NOT
HAVE TO PAY THE TEN PERCENT FEE
AND SO NOW WE ARE TRYING TO.
EXPAND THAT TO MAKE SURE.
IF YOU'RE ALSO UNDER THE PROP
SIXTY FOUR REGIME OF A
RECREATIONAL THAT YOU ALSO IF
YOU PAY YOUR TAXES IN CASH YOU
WILL NOT BE ASSESSED A TEN
PERCENT. FRANCHISE TAX BOARD
STILL ASSESSES.
TAXPAYERS OF YOU PAYING CASH
TEN PERCENT I THINK THAT'S
ANOTHER ISSUE WE SHOULD ALL BE
OUT WORKING ON BUT MY LEDGE
PEOPLE ARE VERY VERY ACTIVE.
A COMING TO HEARINGS YOU KNOW.
DOING EVERYTHING THAT ALL OF
YOUR US STAFF DOES SO.
I WOULD SAY THAT WE. ARE
SIMILAR TO ALL OF YOU AND IF
ANYTHING IT WOULD BE VERY
HELPFUL.
TO ALLOW US THE FLEXIBILITY
THIS YEAR ON TO KEEP THE STAFF
THAT WE NEED.
DEPENDING ON YOU KNOW HOW WE
ARE.
DO WE ARE OUT REACH TO OUR
OFFICES AND THEN AFTER THE NEXT
GROUP OF.
MEMBERS GET ELECTED YOU CAN
HAVE FOR NEW PEOPLE.
OUR MEMBERS THAT THEY CAN KIND
OF.
FIGURE OUT THEIR STAFFING MODEL
BECAUSE I AM VERY CONCERNED
PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA
HAVE A JOB.
JULY FIRST AND IT'S NOT EASY TO
GET A JOB OUGHT SOME OF MY
FOLKS.
ARE BEING TOLD THAT.
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE RETURN
RIGHT SO GOOD LUCK AND THAT'S
WHAT OUR HR PEOPLE ARE TELLING
THEM AND. YOU KNOW THERE'S A LOT
OF PANIC RIGHT NOW AND SO. YOU
THIS YEAR AND WE WOULD JUST ASK
THAT YOU GIVE US FLEXIBILITY TO.
OBVIATE WILL TO YOU KNOW
TRANSITION THEY WILL ALL
TRANSITION OUT AS WE LEAVE
OFFICE AS WELL WELL I ALWAYS
JUST SAY THIS I THOUGHT I WOULD
SUGGEST THAT SOMEBODY PICK UP
THE PHONE AND CALL KELLY CHAIR.
TO GET OF AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT
OF WHAT THEM UP WITH THE TRUE.
OF RIGHTS AND ENTITLEMENTS ARE
OF THE CALIFORNIA CIVIL SERVANT
I SUSPECT THAT IT'S NOT QUITE AS
DRACONIAN IF YOU'RE TALKING TO
BE A WE PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT QUITE AS DRACONIAN AS
THAT THERE MAY BE RESTRICTIONS
I'M SURE THEIR LISTS.
BUT CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES.
DON'T GO AWAY.
DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY'RE
CURRENT POSITION IS THEY MAY
HAVE DIFFICULTY SECURING A STATE
POSITION IF IT'S AN AREA WHERE
THEY'RE NOT A LOT OF STATE JOBS
BUT.
WE NEED TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT
TO MAKE SURETHAT NOBODY.
IS UNNECESSARILY DISADVANTAGED
AND CERTAINLY THAT EVERYBODY HAS
AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. UNDER THE
RULES THAT EXIST TODAY AND IF
THERE'S A PROBLEM.
GIVEN LAST YEAR'S ACTIVITY
LEGISLATIVELY THEN MAYBE WE NEED
TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT LET ME
TALK ABOUT LEGISLATIVE SPOT.
SPONSORSHIP YOU KNOW.
BUT THE DIFFICULTY HERE IS.
THAT YOUR AS ABOARD B. O. EASE
RESPONSIBILITIES HAVE BEEN
SOMEWHAT NARROW.
THE PROPERTY TAX ALCOHOL
RAILROADS UTILITIES AND THERE
PROBABLY SOME OTHER.
OTHER ISSUES THAT I'VE FORGOTTEN
ALL OF THIS.
SO AS A IN TERMS OF STATE
BUSINESS.
BUT IT WAS SEEN TO BE THAT'S
WHERE THE FOCUS NEEDS TO BE
INCLUDING THE MEMBER OFFICE
FOCUS IN TERMS OF LEGISLATIVE
SPONSORSHIP BY ASSUME THAT RUBIO
IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER.
BORDER COMMISSION IN CALIFORNIA
WHERE YOU SEE.
BOARDS.
EITHER SPONSOR OR ENCOURAGE
LEGISLATION TO
FIX OR DO CERTAIN THINGS.
WHEN IT GOES OUTSIDE OF THAT FOR
EXAMPLE.
CANNABIS.
I'M NOT SURE IS THAT STILL
WITHIN THE. THIRTY LINE OF THE
VIDEO WE.
CANNABIS.
WELL BUT THE CANNABIS AFTER IS A
BIG ISSUE AND IT'S A BIG ISSUE
FOR ALL OF US BUT I MEAN IN
TERMS OF ACTUAL ROLES AND
RESPONSIBILITIES TODAY.
ISN'T THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE
WELL BUT I THINK CANNABIS IS YOU
KNOW.
S. PAIRS ALSO WHEN THEY HAVE TO
PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAX OVER
WHICH TURKEY SUDDENLY TOOK THAT
FUNDING PEOPLE.
TO DO LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS
IN INDIVIDUAL BO A MEMBER
OFFICES ON AN ISSUE THAT'S NOT
ASSOCIATED WITH OF ROLE AND
RESPONSIBILITY TO BE A WE IF MY
RECOLLECTION IS CORRECT. I THINK
WE SORT OF
DRIFT OUTSIDE THE SANDBOXING GET
INTO A AN AREA WHERE WE NEED TO
MAKE.
THE DECISION BUT LET ME LET ME
TRY TO SPEAK TO THAT RECORD YES
PLEASURE I GET I BECAUSE I I
THINK THAT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL
ISSUE IN DIFFERENT.
FOR INSTANCE I THINK THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OTHER
BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THEY THEY NUMBER ONE DON'T HAVE
A CONSTITUENCY THEY WERE NOT.
AND SO I THINK THAT PRIMARY
DIFFERENCE HERE BETWEEN THE
BOARD OF EQUALIZATION AS AN
ELECTED BODY.
ANDSOMEBODY WHO'S APPOINTED TO
THIS MUCH MORE NARROW BOTH
ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE. AND THEN IT
WON'T JUST BASICALLY JUST
ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE IS THE BOARD
ALSO HAS CONSTITUENTS RIGHT NOW
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT
CONSTITUENTS SERVICE NO MONEY
I'M NOT I DON'T KNOW BUT I
LEGISLATIVE AS WELL BUT AGAIN
OUR CONSTITUENT IF IF I'VE A
CONSTITUENT WHO FEELS LIKE THERE
IS A NEED. FOR A PIECE OF
LEGISLATION AND SOMEBODY IN THE
LEGISLATURE ISN'T DOING ITS
SUMMIT AYE AYE THERE'S NOT I'M
I'M THERE I'M ALSO THEIR
REPRESENTATIVE DAY. THEY ELECTED
ME.
TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS OF ONE
OF WHICH IS TO REPRESENT THEM SO
WE MAY HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT
I THINK I THINK THAT'S I THINK
THAT'S PROBABLY THE DIFFERENCE
WE CLEARLY HAVE OF RIGHT MENTAL
DISAGREEMENT ON THAT RIGHT TO
COLOR IS. I THINK AND THAT'S WHY
I THINK THERE'S YOU WE WE WOULD
SEE THIS A LOT OF THE NOT ON
SERVICING CONSTITUENTS RIGHT IF
YOU HAVE A CONSTITUENT OF CALLS
ON A CANNABIS ISSUE FOR EXAMPLE
YOU ARE ELECTED AND WE NEED TO
STAFF YOU TO. SOMEHOW ADDRESS
THAT EVEN IF IT SIMPLY TO GET
THE PERSON TO THE RIGHT
GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO ANSWER AND
MAKE SURE THE ANSWER THEY GET
THE QUAYLE ANNOUNCEMENT REMEMBER
WE DON'T INTRODUCED BILLS WE ARE
SPONSORED.
SO WE EVEN EVEN WHEN YOU TALK
ABOUT THE BILLS THAT WE DO IT'S
NOT LIKE WE ARE WRITING THE
BILLS WE ARE BASICALLY WORKING
WITH THE LEGISLATURE.
IN THAT PROCESS.
BUT WE ARE TESTIFYING WE ARE YOU
KNOW PREPARING WORK PREPARED TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS SO MUCH IN
RETURN BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
FUNDING STAFF. TO SUPPORT THOSE
ACTIVITIES.
MATT WRIGHT MCMAHON VICE CHAIRS
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND
I'VE I THINK YOU'VE JUST.
I MOVED OUT OF THE SANDBOX WITH
MY COLLEAGUE CENTER WILL BECAUSE
IT WAS SO I I. I'M NOT ACTUALLY
OF A COMET.
SO WHAT I HEARD FROM BOARD
MEMBER MA IS THAT.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS TRANSIT
VISION AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR
THE FLEXIBILITY MOVE THROUGH
THAT TRANSITION.
BOTH.
BOTH WHERE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN
BEEN LEADERS ON THIS ISSUE IN
TERMS OF BRINGING IT INTO THE
LIGHT. I KNOW WHY CO AUTHORED
MANY.
BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS THAT THAT.
.
I STILL PLAY SENATOR RUNNER UP
PUT PUT MANY MANY MANY TITLES
AND TELLS YEAH SO I. I THINK THE
POINT BEING IS THEY'RE TRYING
TO.
AND I OF COURSE I WAS OPPOSED TO
THESE CHANGES I DON'T THINK
THEY'RE THEY'RE GOOD FOR
TAXPAYERS BUT BE IT YOU KNOW I
LOST ON THAT ONE. BUT I THINK
WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS LET'S
GIVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TED TO
FINISH OUT THEIR TERMS AND AND
THOSE INITIATIVES THAT THEY FEEL
LIKE THEY WERE CHARGED WITH WE
HAVE A WHOLE NEW CROP COMING IN.
AND AND LOOKING TO NARROW IT AT
THAT POINT I THINK IS
APPROPRIATE BUT WHEN YOU PUT IN
ALL THE YEARS THAT THEY PUT IN
ON THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVES
THEY LIKE TO SEE IT COULD YOU
KNOW COME TO A CONCLUSION THAT
THAT THAT'S.
MY THOUGHTS BUT THE OTHER THING
I THINK THIS A PART OF THAT TOO
IS I DON'T THINK AGAIN.
I GUESS IN ONE SENSE WE THINK
IT'S THE SAME TREATMENT YOU
SHOULD WITHOUT A CONSTITUTIONAL
OFFICERS.
I DON'T THINK FOR INSTANCE.
YOU WOULD SAY YOU KNOW WHAT.
.
MADAM CONTROLLER YOUR STAFF
SHOULDN'T BE WORKING ON
LEGISLATION DEALING WITH
SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.
I KNOW AGAIN WHETHER IT OR OR
WHATEVER OR WHATEVER I THINK I
THINK AGAIN IT'S THIS UNIQUE
ROLE THAT WOULD THAT WOULD THAT
WE HAVE THAT HUESO. YET WE'VE
ONLY JUST WILL DISAGREE ON THAT
ISSUE BUT WHAT I REALLY I THINK
THAT'S WHERE AND I DON'T MEAN
THAT I DON'T THINK AND I WOULD
LIKE TO BACK UP THAT IS NOT WHAT
I WOULD THINK OF AS A MAJOR PART
OF WHAT OUR STAFF NEEDS ARE. NO
I KNOW AND I I'M NOT SAYING
WE'RE THE LEGISLATURE HAS A ROLE
IN.
JUMPING INTO THE MIDDLE OF YOUR
OFFICE OPERATIONS IN DECIDING
HOW YOU USUALLY STAFF. BECAUSE
ANY OF THE THINGS AND ALL OF THE
THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
A REALLY.
STATE BUSINESS SOON CORRECT AND
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN FIGURING
OUT HOW YOU USE EMPLOYEE A
RIVERSIDE EMPLOYEE BE. SO I
HAVING SAID.
I'M OKAY WITH EIGHT WE JUST HAVE
TO FIGURE THIS EXEMPTS THING OUT
LET ME BEFORE I TURN TO SENATOR
GLAZERS.
A DYING IS
QUESTION WE TURN TO FINANCE AND
SEE WHAT FINANCES TO SAY AND
THEN LA O. AND THEN LET'S GET
BACK TO THIS.
A CRYSTAL FINANCE ARM.
WHEN WE. CARRIED OUT ARE CHARGED
TO LOOK GOOD ON THE BOARD MEMBER
STEPPING RESPONSIBILITIES SOME
PURSUANT TO THE PROJECT
PROVISIONAL LANGUAGE.
WE SURVEYED THE MEMBERS THEY ON
SUCH AS THE REFORMATION ON WHAT
THEIR STAFF DO. AND THEN WE
TRIED TO DETERMINE. WHAT IS
REALLY MANDATED BY THE
CONSTITUTION?
WHAT A STATUTORILY MANDATED TO
DO?
AND THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE
RECOMMENDED STAFFING LEVEL OF
EIGHT POSITIONS AND WE DIDN'T
LOOK AT CIVIL SERVICE VERSUS
EGGS OUT WE JUST LOOK AT.
LOOK AT THE STAFFING LEVELS
OVERALL.
AND WE ALSO JUST NOTE THAT ON.
OUR RECOMMENDATION DOES HAPPEN
TO COMPORT WITH CURRENT LAW
BECAUSE.
AT THE END OF THE CURRENT BUDGET
YEAR.
THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE
MEMBERS TO KEEP ALL SIX OF THEIR
EXEMPTS STAFF WILL EXPIRE IN IT
WILL REVERT TO ONLY TO EXEMPTS
STAFF WHICH IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY
AUTHORIZED BY STATUTE.
BY AB ONE OH TWO WHICH CREATED
THE ON.
DEPARTMENT TAX AND FEE
ADMINISTRATION SEPARATED THE
BOARD OF EQUALIZATION FROM THEM.
WELL CAN YOU CAN YOU ADDRESS FOR
ME.
WELL TWO THINGS CAN YOU TALK TO
THE EXAM VERSUS CIVIL SERVICE
ISSUE. AND I I THINK I
UNDERSTAND.
HOW WE GOT FROM TWO TO SIX?
TO IN THE CONSTITUTION TO IN THE
GOVERNMENT CO THAT WE'VE RE
DIRECTED TO THE TAX PROVIDE
DEPARTMENT TAX AND FEE
ADMINISTRATION.
AND TO THAT WE CAN'T SEEM TO
FIGURE OUT HOW THEY GOT THEIR
OTHER THAN THROUGH THE BUDGET
ACT YOU KNOW ONTO SEPARATE.
BUDGETS.
ADDRESS THAT AND THEN IF YOU
COULD ALSO ADDRESS WITH FOR ME.
HOW SIGNIFICANT IT WOULD BE IF
WHEN THIS IS RE AGENDAS AND ACT
WELL ON HIS INACTION?
BUT WHEN IT IS IF IT DOES COME
BACK TO US HOW SIGNIFICANT IT
WOULD BE TO EXTEND THE CURRENT
STAFFING.
AT THE BOARD MEMBER OFFICES
THREE
THROUGH THE END OF THE CALENDAR
YEAR WHICH WOULD BE WHAT FIVE OR
SIX MONTHS OF THE NEW BUDGET
YEAR IN TERMS OF
OF A NUMBER. CERTAINLY SO
STARTING WITH THE EXEMPTS VERSUS
THE STARTING WITH THE EXEMPT.
.
AS YOU SAID THERE WERE SPOT
THERE'S CONSTITUTIONAL
AUTHORIZATION TO EXEMPT
POSITIONS AND THOSE.
WILL OF COURSE DAY.
THERE WAS GOVERNMENT CODE
AUTHORIZATION FOR TWO MORE IN
THAT WAS REMOVED BY EIGHTY ONE
OR TWO AND THEN THERE WAS
AUTHORIZATION THAT. WERE UNCLEAR
AS TO WHERE IT CAME FROM BUT
THERE'S TWO MORE WHO WERE
ASSIGNED TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
AND.
THERE WAS NO STEPS FOR
AUTHORIZATION FOR THOSE
POSITIONS SO THE WAY THE
ADMINISTRATION SEES IT IS THAT.
WHEN THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR AND
THIS AND THAT SPECIAL
AUTHORIZATION AND.
BUDGET ACT REGIONAL LANGUAGE
LET'S THE BOARD MEMBERS KEEP ALL
SIX MEMBERS ALL ALL SIX
EMPLOYEES EXEMPTS.
WITHOUT EXPIRES THEN THEY WILL
GO DOWN HAVING ONLY TO EXEMPT
EMPLOYEES THAT'S UNDER CURRENT
LAW.
AS REGARDS THE MATTER OF
WHETHER.
IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO
EXTEND THOSE SIX.
NON EXEMPTS THROUGH THE END OF
THE CURRENT CALENDAR YEAR.
THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT CAN
BE HAD ON THAT WITH THE DARK
PARTY'S EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT NOT
MY THINK GUM. THEY HAVE HEARD
THAT IDEA BROACHED BEFORE.
THEY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO
MAKE A DECISION ON IT BUT I'M I
THINK THAT PROPOSAL HAS BEEN
SHARED WITH ADMINISTRATION
SO THEN LET ME ASK THIS WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE
WHETHER THEY'RE EXEMPT TO THEIR
CIVIL SERVICE RIGHT.
THE ONLY THING WE'RE HAVING
CURRENTLY HAVING A CONVERSATION
ABOUT AND IT'S JUST THAT A
CONVERSATION.
IS WHETHER THE WHETHER FOR THE
EIGHT ARE QUOTE EXAMS.
OR WHETHER TO OF THE EIGHT OUR
EXAMS.
AND THE OTHER SIX OF CIVIL
SERVICE
IS THEIR ANY COST DIFFERENTIAL
INVOLVED IN IN THAT
DETERMINATION TO VERSES FOR.
IN THE BUDGET ACT THE.
THE EXEMPTS I THINK OUR GENERAL
FUND AT A HIGHER SALARY LEVEL IN
THE CIVIL SERVANT SO THERE WOULD
BE THAT. DONE FISCAL IMPACT BUT
THAT'S A DECISION THAT THAT WE
COULD MAKE OR THE ADMINISTRATION
COULD MAKE BOTH OF US COULD MAKE
AS TO HOW WHAT THE FUNDING LEVEL
IS. O SO RADICALLY THE DOLLARS
ARE THE SAME WHETHER THEY'RE
EXEMPT.
CIVIL SERVICE RIGHT.
YES EXEMPTS.
COULD BE FUNDED.
.
YEAH LEVEL THAT THE.
POLICYMAKERS CHOOSE. SO.
OTHER THAN.
THEN THERE IS
I MEAN IT'S A LITTLE.
COMPLICATED FOR ME.
I COME FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR
EXEMPT TO ME MEANS YOU'RE EXEMPT
FROM OVERTIME.
IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR I ASSUME
IT'S EXEMPT FROM OVERTIME PLUS
YOU'RE EXEMPT FROM THE STANDARD
CIVIL SERVICE HIRING AND
TERMINATION REQUIREMENTS YOU
DON'T HAVE TO TAKE AN EXAM THERE
NO LISTS.
YOU'RE NOT WILL EMPLOYEE
BASICALLY ALL THAT MUCH THERE'S
ALSO THE THE OVER TIME WAGE IN
OUR ISSUE.
AND I DON'T THINK.
I WON'T COMMENT ON OUR STAFF BUT
YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT I THINK AND
I I SUSPECT THAT SOME OF THE
EXEMPTS STAFF INSIDE THE BOARD.
OF EQUALIZATION MEMBER OFFICES
ARE REALLY NOT EXEMPT FROM
OVERTIME IF WE TOOK A LOOK AT
THAT.
BUT WHY DO WE CARE WHETHER THESE
FOLKS HAVE FOR EXAMPLE.
FOR EXAMPLE OR TO EXEMPT INTO
CIVIL SERVICE SHOULD WE CARE
WELL IT AGAIN IT. THIS WHAT IS
AUTHORIZED BY CURRENT LAW THE
WAY THE ADMINISTRATION SEES THAT
THERE'S CLEARCUTTING TUITION
AUTHORITY.
TO EXEMPT POSITIONS.
AUTHORIZATION FOR TWO MORE
DEPOSITION WAS DELETED BY LAST
YEAR'S AB ONE OR TWO IN AND
FINALLY THERE THESE LAST TO
EXEMPT POSITIONS TO THE BOARD
MEMBERS HAD. AND.
THE STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION FOR
THOSE WE HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO
FIND.
SO THE WAY THE ADMINISTRATION
SEASON AGAIN AS UPON THE EXPIRY
OF THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR ON
JUNE. JUNE THIRTIETH TWO
THOUSAND SEVEN EIGHTEEN THAT IS
WHEN THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE
BOARD MEMBERS TO KEEP THEIR SIX
EXEMPTS WILL EXPIRE BECAUSE THE
CURRENT BUDGET ACT DOES.
AUTHORIZE THEM TO KEEP THEIR SIX
EXEMPTS DUTY IN THE CURRENT
FISCAL YEAR I COULD SEE HAVING
THIS CONVERSATION IF THERE WAS A
DISPUTE OVER WHETHER YOU SHOULD
HAVE SIX OR WHETHER A SIX TOTAL
OR A TOTAL. AND WE'RE ARGUING
ABOUT TO INTO BEING EXAM BUT
THERE SEEMS TO BE A GENERAL
AGREEMENT.
ASIDE FROM THE LA SHOW THAT YOU
KNOW EIGHT IS GOING TO BE THE
NUMBER AND SO THIS CONVERSATION
ABOUT WHETHER TO OF THE AID IS
EXEMPT ARE EXEMPT OR FOR THE
EIGHT OR EXEMPT ISSUE SEEMS TO
BE SORT OF AN ACADEMIC.
A DISCUSSION
FOR ME.
OTHER THAN THE ISSUE ABOUT
WHETHER THEY'RE TRULY ACCEPT TO
BEGIN WITH.
OKAY WELL ILL.
AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF WE
HAVE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS
SO BASED ON OUR REVIEW OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE IS REPORT
AND THE DATA SUBMITTED BY BOARD
MEMBERS WE THINK THAT FINANCES
APPROACH LIKELY. OVERESTIMATES
THE BOARDS STAFFING
REQUIREMENTS.
A BUT BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE
GETS INTO SPECIFICS ABOUT THE
NUMBER OF POSITIONS THERE IS
SORT OF A BIGGER PICTURE
DECISION TO MAKE
WHICH IS. HOW TO STRUCTURE BOARD
MEMBERS OFFICES SO CRUNCHER
CURRENT?
STATUTE.
BOARD MEMBERS HAVE.
AUTHORITY TO HAVE ONE DISTRICT
OFFICEAND ONE CAPITOL OFFICE
EACH OF THE FOUR DISTRICT
ELECTED BOARD MEMBERS. HOWEVER
THE TWENTY SEVENTEEN BUDGET ACT
STATED THE LEGISLATURE'S INTENT
FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS TO BE
RELOCATED INTO ONE STATE OWNED
SPACE AS THEIR LEASES EXPIRE.
AND THOSE THOSE LEASE
EXPIRATIONS AT ALL FOUR OF THOSE
LEASES EITHER WILL BE EXPIRING
OR MOVING TO SOFT TERM IN. A HOT
SPRING AND EARLY SUMMER OF
TWENTY NINETEEN.
SO NOW CERTAINLY I THINK.
WE THINK THAT A GOOD
OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER WHAT
DEGREE. OF BOARD MEMBER OFFICE
CONSOLIDATION THE LEGISLATURE
DESIRES AND SO CORRESPONDING TO
THAT SORT OF BIGGER PICTURE
DECISION WE HAVE A A TWO PART
RECOMMENDATION CORRESPONDING TO.
TWO POSSIBLE PATHS THAT THE
LEGISLATURE COULD TAKE THEIR
IF THE LEGISLATURE WANTED TO
MAINTAIN THE CURRENT STRUCTURE
OF ONE. DISTINCT
DISTRICT AND CAPITOL OFFICE FOR
EACH OF THE FOR A DISTRICT
ELECTED BOARD MEMBERS WE WOULD
RECOMMEND THAT THE LEGISLATURE
AUTHORIZED A TOTAL OF SIX
POSITIONS FOR EACH BOARD MEMBER
RATHER THAN EIGHT.
IF THE LEGISLATURE WERE
INTERESTED AND A GREATER DEGREE
OF CONSOLIDATION THE LEGISLATURE
COULD ACHIEVE POTENTIALLY
ADDITIONAL SAVINGS BY HAVING.
BOARD MEMBERS POOL RESOURCES TO
A GREATER DEGREE THAN THEY DO
CURRENTLY THAT WOULD INVOLVE
SHARING SOME MOST NOT ALL BUT
SOME STAFF.
I JUST AS MANY OTHERS STATE
BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS CURRENTLY
DO.
AND ORIGINALLY WE HAD REFERRED
TO THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION IS
A LONG TERM BUT. IN HINDSIGHT
THAT'S A BIT OF A MISNOMER DUE
TO THE TIMING OF THE.
LISA EXPLORATIONS AND OUR AYE
RECOMMENDATIONS ASSUME.
THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL DO THE
JOB THAT THE CONSTITUTION AND
THE LEGISLATURE OF GIVEN THEM
WHICH I AT THIS TIME DOES NOT
INCLUDE THE FULL RANGE OF
CONSTITUENT SERVICES THAT THEY
HAVE PERFORMED HISTORICALLY AND
WE THINK THERE'S SOME PRETTY
CLEAR STATUTORY GUIDANCE ON
THIS.
I GOVERNMENT CODE ONE FIVE SIX
OH THREE STATES.
THE MEMBER SHALL DEVOTE HIS OR
HER ENTIRE TIME IT TO THE
SERVICES OF THE STATE AND
PERFORMING THE DUTIES IMPOSED
UPON THE BOARD AND ITS MEMBERS.
BY THE CONSTITUTION AND STATUTES
OF THIS STATE.
SO AS WE SEE IT.
HOSE DUTIES HAVE NO CONNECTION
TO INCOME TAXES OR SALES TAXES.
OR MEAN WHATEVER OTHER POLICY
ISSUES MAY LEAVE INTEREST TO
THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND SO THE
BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD NOT BE.
I BEYOND SOMETHING LIKE
REFERRALS SHOULD NOT BE
PERFORMING ANY CONSTITUENT
SERVICES RELATED TO THOSE ISSUES
SO THE LEVEL OF FUNDING WE'RE
RECOMMENDING DOES NOT INCLUDE
ANY.
RESOURCES FOR.
THOSE ACTIVITIES AND CERTAINLY
THAT'S.
SIMILARLY APPROACH WE TAKE WITH
OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
SUCH AS THE CONTROLLER OR THE
TREASURER.
WELL OWE ME LET ME JUST MAKE
THIS COMMENT BEFORE I.
.
S. MY COLLEAGUES TO.
COMMENT OR QUESTION AS THEY SEE
FIT.
YOU KNOW THIS WHOLE I OBVIOUSLY
WAS INVOLVED IN THIS BICU WE
REORGANIZATION.
I'M.
UNFORTUNATELY OR FORTUNATELY.
IT OCCURS TO ME THAT THIS IS
STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
AND THIS IS STILL A.
TRIP OF OF A PROCESS THAT IS IN
TRANSITION.
AND THAT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
WE HAVE LEASES BOARD MEMBER
OFFICE LEASES THAT ARE STILL IN
PLAY SEPARATE SPACE THAT STILL
EXISTS.
WELL LEASES WILL BE EXPIRING IN
THE.
FAIRLY NEAR FUTURE.
HOPEFULLY THAT THE BE AWAY IN
THE MEMBERS WILL TAKE THE
LEGISLATURE'S EXPRESSION OF
INTENT TO HARDEN THERE WILL BE
SOME CUTS CONSOLIDATION.
WE HAVE SOME STAFF COMING AND
GOING WE HAVE VACANCIES WE HAVE
MEMBERS COMING AND GOING WE
UNDOUBTEDLY MAY HAVE SOME.
SOME.
FURTHER REALIGNMENT OF DUTIES
AND RESPONSIBILITIES HOWEVER
MAJOR OR MINOR PROBABLY MINOR
WITHIN THE.
CONSTRUCT OF THE BO WE IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF TAX AND FEE
ADMINISTRATION AND AS.
SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES
REALIGNING. IN TERMS OF WHERE
THE STAFF HAPPEN TO BE LOCATED.
SO HAVING SAID THAT IT SEEMS TO
ME THAT.
IF NOTHING ELSE THAT MITIGATES
IN FAVOR OF.
IN THIS BUDGET YEAR.
PERHAPS FUNDING MORE OF THE
TOTAL EIGHT STAFFERS
BEFORE WE GET TO THE REDUCTION
TO SIX.
IF THAT EVER EVER.
FUNDING MORE OF THOSE EIGHT
STAFFERS AS EXEMPT EMPLOYEES
RATHER THAN CIVIL SERVICE
EMPLOYEES.
SO AS THE TRANSITION SORT OF
OCCURS AND WE HIT A STEADY
STATE.
WE SEE WHETHER WE NEED EIGHT OR
SIX
WE DON'T IF WE NEED SIX AS
OPPOSED EIGHT WE DON'T HAVE TO
GO THROUGH THE LAYOFF PROCEDURE
FOR CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES IT'S
MUCH EASIER TO.
MAKE ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN THE
STAFFING LEVEL.
AT THAT POINT AYE I AND
LISTENING I APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMENTS AND I THINK WE ARE
GOING TO SEE SOME.
REALIGNMENT AND WE MAY SEE SOME
STAFFING ADJUSTMENT AND IT MAY
BE. IN A DOWNWARD DIRECTION BUT
I WAS JUST THINKING WILL THIS
ACTUALLY MITIGATES IN FAVOR OF.
MORE EXEMPT RATHER THAN FEWER
EXAMS.
TO GIVE US FLEXIBILITY AS A
STATE TO GET TO THE RIGHT.
STAFFING LEVEL WITHIN THE
INDIVIDUAL.
A MEMBER OFFICE.
I ALSO NOTE AS THE COMMENTS AND
IT'S MY TIME TO COMMENT.
TAKING IT THAT WE ARE DEALING
WITH ELECTIVES.
AND DESPITE WHAT I SAID ABOUT
SANDBOXES INC GOING OUTSIDE THE
LINES AND ALL OF THAT.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU
HAVE A CONSTITUENT CALL EVEN IN
OUR POSITION.
WHERE THE CONSTITUENT IS IN
SOMEBODY ELSE'S DISTRICT?
TELL THE CONSTITUENT NO YOU HAVE
TO GO CALL.
JOE.
BECAUSE JOE IS YOUR SENATOR.
PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE CRYING
AND THEY HAVE A VERY SERIOUS
PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW IT'S OUR JOB AS
ELECTIVES AND I'VE TOLD MY STAFF
I DON'T CARE WHO WHERE THEY LIVE
OR WHO REPRESENTS THEM IF IT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP
THEM.
WE SHOULD HELP THEM AND I DON'T
KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY WANNA.
THE HANDCUFFS ON BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION MEMBERS TO SAY THAT
THE ONLY QUESTIONS THEY CAN
ANSWER.
HAVE TO COME FROM ALCOHOL
MANUFACTURERS RAILROADS.
UTILITIES.
AND STATE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHO
HAVE PROPERTY TAX.
AND THEN WHATEVER THE OTHER
ONES.
SO I AM SENSITIVE TO WHAT YOU
ALL ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH AND
I THINK WE NEED TO BUILD IN SOME
FLEXIBILITY IN OUR STAFFING
MODEL. TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY
ABILITY TO RESPOND.
TO THAT.
OTHER CATEGORY WHATEVER THAT HIS
SO I'M GONNA STOP SPEAKING NOW
THAT I'VE GIVEN MY SPEECH
COLLEAGUES ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS.
SENATE GLAZER.
THANK YOU I CHAIR ROTTEN THANK
YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP BY AND
THIS TRANSITION UP FOR THE
WHOLE.
DEPARTMENT AND THEN ALL THEIR
WORK AFTER SHE ADDED THANKLESS
WORK AND FULLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND I'D CERTAINLY ALIGN MYSELF
WITH YOUR OBSERVATIONS
I AND A VARIETY OF POINTS THAT
YOU JUST MADE AYE. I THINK THE.
THE TRANSITION.
FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR AND
EXISTING MEMBERS SAY DOES MAKE
SOME SENSE TO ME.
I THINK THE TRANSITION TO THE
OFFICE CONSOLIDATION IN
SACRAMENTO.
AND THAT MAKES SOME SENSE TO ME.
I THINK YOUR OBSERVATIONS ABOUT
HELPING CONSTITUENTS
I REALLY MAKE SENSE TO ME.
I GET WHY MAYBE THE.
THE DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY
DOESN'T DOESN'T THAT DEPEND UPON
BOARD MEMBER.
ABOUT WORK BUT YET BUT THAT'S
WHAT WE'RE THAT'S WILL THAT'S
WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT FOR US IN
ELECTED OFFICE IS TO HELP
PEOPLE.
AND NOT THAT.
MAKE THEIR LIFE MORE DIFFICULT
MORE COMPLICATED BUT TO HELP A
BREAKTHROUGH BREAK DOWN A LOT OF
THE BARRIERS TO.
DID THE NEEDS THAT THEY MIGHT
HAPPEN.
AND THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S WORK
TO BE DONE.
I AM I THINK THAT THE ONE PLACE
WHERE I AM THAT STILL HAVING A
LITTLE TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING IS
SOME CONTEXT OVER THESE
PARTICULAR POSITIONS.
I DON'T SEE ANY BREAKDOWN IN OUR
OUR OUR STAFF WORK AT LEAST
THAT.
SHOWS HOW HOW MUCH WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT PER POSITION WHETHER
THEY'RE EXEMPT OR NOT EXEMPT.
UP WITH THEIR JOB TITLES AND I
THINK WE BENEFIT FROM
UNDERSTANDING THAT A LITTLE BIT
BETTER WHEN THIS MATTER COMES
BACK TO US.
AND I APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATION TODAY ABOUT.
YOU KNOW I WILL SAY SOMETHING
ELSE AND THAT'S THEM IF WE ARE
SERIOUS AS A.
AS OF STATE APPEAR ABOUT TAKING
A LOOK AT THE.
MANPOWER.
UTILIZATION INSIDE THE BO WE.
MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THIS AND A
VARIETY OF OTHER AGENCIES
PERHAPS INCLUDING OUR OWN
OPERATION.
THEN THEIR WAYS TO STUDY
MANPOWER.
AND MAYBE WE.
WITH THE COOPERATION OF THE
MEMBERS IN THE VIDEO WE.
TAKE A FURTHER LOOK AS WE MOVE
DOWN STREAM AS TO WHETHER THE
DOE IN THE MEMBER OFFICES ARE
ACTUALLY STAFFED APPROPRIATELY
BUT YOU DO THAT WITH THE MAN
PARTS IF WE WERE IN PRIVATE
SECTOR.
YOU DO THAT WITH A MAN PART
STUDY.
OF KNOW I WOULD NOTE AT LEAST
OUR ANALYSIS INDICATES THAT
THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT BY FINANCE
TO DO THAT IN SORT OF A RATHER
INFORMAL.
WAY OF BY REQUESTING BREAKDOWNS
OF.
HOURS SPENT ON
BAKER TASKS WHICH IS NORMALLY
THE IN MY EXPERIENCE THE FIRST.
PHASE OF A MAN OF A FORMAL MEN
PER STUDY U. S. SOMEBODY TELL
YOU WHAT THEY DO.
AND TWO OUT OF THE FOUR MEMBERS
DIDN'T.
SPA AND.
NO CRITICISM.
BUT MAYBE AS WE GO FORWARD IN
OUR ATTEMPT TO GET THE MANNING
RIGHT NOT ONLY IN YOUR OFFICE
BUT IN THE AGENCY AS A WHOLE AND
WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO HAVE A
BETTER RESPONSE.
RATE THAN FIFTY
SENATE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT CAN
CAN ANY CLARIFICATION DEJECTION
TO OFFICE THE DIDN'T RESPOND OR
DID THEY NOT RESPOND KIND OF
WITH THE GUIDELINE THAT WOULD
GIVE AND I JUST GOT A NARRATIVE.
EVER YES AGAIN I HAVEN'T I DON'T
KNOW I DON'T KNOW HOW I
RESPONDED WE DID RECEIVE
RESPONSES FROM ALL FOUR OFFICES.
BUT ONLY TO THE OFFICES MANAGED
TO PARSE OUT WHAT EACH EMPLOYEE
DID ON THE NET. HOW MANY HOURS
EACH EMPLOYEE SPENT ON EACH ONE
WHICH I WORKED OUT WHICH IS
WHICH IS A TRADITIONAL WAY TO
START A MAN MCCARTY STUDY TO TRY
TO FIGURE OUT? WHAT YOU THINK
YOU DO IN YOUR PEOPLE THINK THEY
DO AND? WHEN YOU WHEN AND WHAT
COMES BACK IS ESSENTIALLY A JOB
DESCRIPTION THAT DOESN'T WITHOUT
ASPECT. THAT DOESN'T. CUT THE
MUSTARD SO I THINK IN THE FUTURE
IF.
IF THIS. CONVERSATION
WE KEEP HAVING THIS YEAR AFTER
YEAR I THINK AT SOME POINT WE
NEED TO TAKE A MORE ACCURATE
SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WHO DOES WHAT
AND WHAT YOU NEED TO CONTACT
YOUR QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THIS
SUPPORT.
ABSOLUTELY I THAT ISSUE I THINK
THE RACE I THINK THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE.
AND I NEED SOME SPECIALIZED
STAFF TO GO DOWN THERE WITH ME
AND GO TO THAT MEETING.
THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN WHETHER OR NOT I HAVE
THE ABILITY TO BRING IN EXEMPTS
STAFF PERSON. OR CIVIL SERVICE.
ALL OF A SUDDEN IT GETS VERY
COMPLICATED IF I HAVE TO DEAL
WITH THE ISSUE OF THAT THE
RESTRAINTS ARE ON CIVIL SERVANTS
WHEN IT COMES TO TRAVEL WHEN IT
COMES OVER NIGHT WHEN IT COMES
ALL THOSE ISSUES.
TO THE IDEA OF HAVING SOMEBODY
WHO'S EXEMPT WHO'S AN EXPERT IS
DIFFERENT IN REGARDS TO ME JUST
IN REGARDS THAT PRACTICAL SIDE.
OF TRAVEL IF I GOT TO DRIVE FOUR
HOURS TO GO TO TO READING.
IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE
WHETHER I GOT A CIVIL SERVANT
WITH ME OR WHETHER I'VE GOT AN
EXEMPT PERSON WITH ME.
SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THE
PRACTICAL SIDES
OUR IN REGARDS TO THAT ISSUE
THAT I WOULD I WANT TO POINT
OUT.
SURE IN A CHURCH AND I THINK
THAT'S IT THAT'S INFORMATIVE AND
HELPFUL BUT I TO GO BACK TO SHOW
ME THE NUMBERS WHEN I LOOK AT
THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN BUDGET AND
POSITIONS.
TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS FOR
PERSONAL STAFF FIFTY TWO
POSITIONS THAT'S TWO HUNDRED AND
THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
POSITION OKAY
THAT MUST BE RUN MUST BE
CONFIANZA NOT I DON'T KNOW WHAT
I'M JUST TAKING THE AT THE LA
DOES.
OVERALL BUDGET NUMBER SO I GET
YOUR POINT ABOUT EXEMPTIONS AT
AND NOT EXEMPT.
BUT I STILL THINK THAT KNOWING
HOW MCH PAIN AND WHAT THE
DIFFERENCES IS IMPORTANT HERE
AND AGAIN WITH AND THAT WE DON'T
A PROBLEM AGAIN THOUGH I THINK
THEY SHOULD BE I'M I'M SURPRISED
YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THE PAY
RATES AND WHAT I KNOW WITH WITH.
YOUR FINANCES BEEN PROVIDED ALL
THAT WENT OUT OF THEIR COME IN
REGARDS TO THE RATE ISSUE
BETWEEN AN EXEMPT.
AND IT IN A CIVIL SERVANT THE
FACT IS THAT IN SOME OF THOSE
CASES SOME OF THOSE EXEMPTS
COULD BE LAST FOR INSTANCE ONE
OF OUR EXAMS IS THAT LIKE I
SAID.
ATTACKS A TAX ATTORNEY TWO
THREE.
INCOME AND THAT'S A VERY HIGHLY
PAID COMPENSATED INDIVIDUAL.
COMPARED TO IN THAT WOULD BE IF
NOT EQUAL TO MAYBE MORE THAN
SOME OF OUR EXAMPLE EQUAL SO SO
IN THAT SENSE I DON'T THINK
FINANCIALLY IT MAKES MUCH
DIFFERENCE AT ALL WHETHER THEY
ARE EXEMPT.
IN IN IN THAT REGARD.
LET ME LET ME JUST SPEAK TO THE
ISSUE OF WHAT IF SUPPORT BECAUSE
THAT'S SPENT OF KEVIN AND.
GOT A GRAY AREA THAT IS VERY
DIFFICULT FOR US TONIGHT.
BRENDA FLEMING HAS A DIFFERENT
DIRECTOR.
DEPUTY DIRECTOR CAN ANSWER SOME
OF MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
IN REGARDS TO OUR THE BILL WE IS
ABILITY TO KIND OF FOCUS AND GET
SUPPORT FROM DEEP TO A SEAT TFA.
WHAT THE END OF THE DAY IS
THAT'S WHO WE HAVE TO GET
SUPPORT FOR?
IT COMES TO PRINTING MATERIALS
WHEN IT COMES TO H. FARM INCOMES
THAT AT THAT POINT.
WE ARE JUST ANOTHER AGENCY.
I'M YOU KNOW I'VE SOMETIMES I
DON'T TALK THE THE BUREAUCRATIC
SPEAKS I GET COULD YOU
WHAT WHAT'S THE DEPARTMENT
HASN'T AGENCY BUT THE END OF THE
DAY IS. THE IDEAS WE HAVE NO
ABILITY TO OPEN THE DOOR AND
ASK.
CTF A TO GO AHEAD AND DO
PRINTING FORCE.
WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO DO THAT IN
FACT THEY'RE THE ONES WHO
INFORMED US.
WE NEED TO HAVE A TECH PERSON ON
OUR STAFF
IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THE
WEBSITE WEBSITE ISSUE.
SO I THINK THAT AGAIN I THINK
WHAT WE'VE CHRIS CREATED WHO
STOOD WE PRAYED THE STANDALONE
AGE ARE ASSUMING YOURS YOUR
MEMBERS STAFF FOR THE BE A WE
STAFF.
THE IN REGARDS TO WHAT THERE IS
NO BE A WE STEP IN REGARDS Y.
FACT I MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE WHAT WE
NEED YOU NEED TO HEAR.
IT'S FROM FROM.
.
FROM.
OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR REGARDS TO
WHAT WHAT SERVICES WE HAVE TO
RELY ON THEY HAVE TO RELY ON.
IN REGARDS TO CD TFA VERSUS WHAT
IS IT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE STAFF
TO DO WHICH MEANS THAT THAT'S
WHAT WE HAVE DEPENDED.
SO.
BRENDA PLUMBING SHE'S DEPUTY
DIRECTOR.
SOARING GOOD MORNING THIS IS
RUNNING SO.
HONORABLE MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR
THIS OPPORTUNITY I'M JUST TO
CLARIFY THE STATUS ON THE BOARD
OF EQUALIZATION RIGHT NOW HAS UM
THE FAR FOR MEMBERS PLUS THE
CONTROLLER. EACH OF THE BOARD
MEMBERS DISTRICT BOARD MEMBERS
HAS TWELVE STAFF AS WE'VE BEEN
DISCUSSING.
THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE HAS
ABOUT TWO HUNDRED FOUR
POSITIONS.
THERE ARE STILL.
AS YOU KNOW A LOT OF
RESTRICTIONS AS A RESULT OF AB
ONE OF TWO COMPLEMENTARY EIGHTY
ONE ONLY ONE THIRTY ONE AND THE
BUDGET BILL.
THROUGH THAT PROCESS THE
RESTRICTIONS FOR THE BOARD
MEMBERS TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH
THAT THEY WERE THERE THE RIGHT
ACCORDING TO THE LEGISLATION TO
WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR. BUT THE STAFF INSIDE
THE AGENCY ARE MORE RESTRICTIVE
IN THE MEASURE HAS A CONSEQUENCE
IN ORDER FOR US TO PROVIDE THE
SERVICES TO THE BOARD MEMBER
INTO THE REMAINDER OF THE
AGENCY.
WHERE I AM IN A POSITION WHERE
WE'RE REQUIRED TO THROUGH IT AND
ALL YOU HAVE FOR THE LEGISLATION
THAT SAYS AND AB ONE TWO THAT WE
WOULD GET SERVICES FROM? AROUND
THE CDFA FOR ADMINISTRATIVE
SERVICES THAT INCLUDES HR
CONTRACTS TO PROCUREMENT
BUDGETING I'M AND SOME
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SERVICES
SO WE DON'T HAVE THOSE POSITIONS
AS WE USED TO WHEN WE WERE BE WE
WANT IDAHO. THE SIDES WHEN
ORGANIZATION APPROXIMATELY FORTY
EIGHT HUNDRED EMPLOYEES WE HAVE
DEPARTMENTS THAT PROVIDED THOSE
SERVICES FOR THEM FOR THAT ALSO
A MAN BUT FOR EXAMPLE IF THE
BOARD MEMBERS ARE TWO OF THEM.
THINKS IT'S ABOUT WHATEVER THE
DECISION MAKING NUMBER IS.
THE SIDE THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO
HAVE A. WEBSITE DEVELOPED WERE
WEBSITE CHANGED TO ADD A
PARTICULAR COMPONENT AND THEY GO
THROUGH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
STILL HAVE IS THAT YOU ARE.
BACK HERE THEY THEN AND IN ALL
FAIRNESS
TO.
THERE IS THERE STAFFERS.
IT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL IS
JUST THE PROCESS DIFFERENCES IN
THE TIME FRAMES THE WAY THAT YOU
GO ABOUT GETTING THE WORK DONE
IS DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT.
I PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS AT A
DEDICATED GROUP OF A PATH OF BE
WE WHAT WE CALL THE WE WANT I'D
EMPLOYEES THAT WERE AVAILABLE SO
THAT MEMBERS HAD A TIME DIRECT
ACCESS TO THOSE EMPLOYEES TO TO
ACHIEVE SOME OF THEIR. TIME
EDUCATION AND OUTREACH
ACTIVITIES
SO THERE WERE DEDICATED STAFF
THOSE STAFF AND THE BOARD MEMBER
OFFICES WERE WAS FREQUENT IN ACT
QUITE ACTIVE.
THE PROCESS NOW IS WHEN A BOARD
MEMBER ONE SOME OF THE SERVICES
THEY SEND A COMMUNICATION TO THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S OFFICE SO
AGAIN OR COMPLIANCE WITH THE
LAW.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THEN ASSIGNS
THAT TO THE PROPER GROUP OF
PEOPLE WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION
AND THEN GO BACK AND THEN
SUBMIT.
AN EMAIL COMMUNICATION TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF TAX AND FEE
ADMINISTRATION TO REQUEST OF
SERVICES.
NOW THE DISTINCTION IS THAT.
THAT MR RUNNERS REFERRING TO IS
THAT THERE IS AN EXPECTATION
UNDER THE CURRENT WE'RE.
PROVIDINGTHE SERVICES THROUGH
INTER AGENCY AGREEMENTS BETWEEN
THE TWO DEPARTMENTS.
AS WOMEN RUNNERS REFERRING TO
IS THAT EACH MEMBERS OFFICER
EACH OFFICE WHAT WE CALL THE
PROGRAM AREA IS EXPECTED TO HAVE
WHAT WE CALL THE WEB CONTENT
COORDINATOR. AND SO THAT PERSON
IS NOT NECESSARILY AYE
DECLASSIFICATION BUT IT'S THE
PERSON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
REVIEWING THE MATERIAL ACTUAL
CONTENT OF THE MESSAGE.
AND SO THAT EXISTED WHEN WE HAD
TO BE A WE WANT AUTO ON BECAUSE
THAT REALLY IS THE PERSON THAT
TAKES A LOOK AT THE INFORMATION
SAYS THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT YOU
WANT TO COMMUNICATE. THAN THAT
REVIEW OCCURS AND THEY ARE
REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT THAT
INFORMATION THEY GIVE THE REVIEW
OF IT THEY ALSO ARE
PARTICIPATING AND I'M THE REVIEW
OF THE ADA COMPLIANCE AMERICANS
WITH DISABILITIES ACT REQUIRED
JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR
CONSTITUENTS CAN READ THAT
INFORMATION.
ONCE THE WEB CONTENT COORDINATOR
IN EACH OF THE PROGRAM AREAS
INCLUDING MEMBERS OFFICES ONCE
THAT PERSON IS COMPLETED THEIR
TASK THAT WORK IS THEN PASSED ON
BACK TO THE I. T. TEAM AND THEN
THAT'S PUBLISHED.
PROVIDED ON THE WEBSITE WILL
ONLY SORRY FOR THE TECHNIQUE NO
YOU'RE FINE I MEAN THIS
OBVIOUSLY IS AN ISSUE THAT
MEMBERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT AND
I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHERS. THAT
I'M YOU KNOW RATHER THAN TURN
THIS INTO AN OVERSIGHT.
.
HEARING ON THE LIBYA WE
REORGANIZATION.
I RECOGNIZE THAT THE BLOOD IS
STILL FRESH IN STILL ON THE
FLOOR HERE.
HEADS AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
AND MAYBE SOONER RATHER THAN
LATER.
WE NEED TO HAVE MAY BE I THINK
WE HAVE THE JURISDICTION IN THIS
SUBCOMMITTEE TO DO IT.
A MAYBE WE'LL DO.
AN OVERSIGHT HEARING. ON THE
INTEGRATION OF BETWEEN THE BEER
WE IN THE DEPARTMENT TAX AND FEE
ADMINISTRATION IN THE OFFICE OF
TAX APPEALS. AND WE CAN SO SORT
OF ALL SIT AT THIS TO TABLE
HERE.
AND WE CAN BE APPEAR AND LISTEN
AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT
HOW THIS IS WORKING.
TOGETHER WITH FINANCE AND THE
LA JOH. NA AND TO THE EXTENT
THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THE
CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF THIS
ENVIRONMENT.
FOR SOME REASON WILL HAVE THE
CONVERSATION HERE.
SEE WHAT IF ANY ADJUSTMENTS WE
NEED TO MAKE BECAUSE
WHILE THERE WERE CERTAIN ISSUES%
THAT SO. MANY OF US FELT WERE
IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS LAST YEAR.
A WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT TO THE
EXTENT THAT WE LEFT ANY WE HAVE
ANY BROKEN GLASS ON THE FLOOR
THAT WE CLEAN IT UP AND THAT WE
MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESS
WORKS.
EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY NOT
ONLY FOR THE MEMBERS THE ELECTED
MEMBERS BUT FOR THE STAFF OF THE
VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES
THAT WE HAVE LEFT.
AND THE AND THE CONSTITUENTS IN
THE PUBLIC SO.
A WITH YOUR.
.
PERMISSION I GUESS.
MISTER CHAIR WILL GO AHEAD AND
WE'LL DO THAT LET'S DO THAT
LATER AS OPPOSED TO NOW IN MY
PURPOSES AND TO LITIGATE THAT
ISSUE AS MUCH AS IS JUST TO
ILLUSTRATE WELL ACT THAT WE END
UP HAVING THESE OTHER STRANGE
ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO.
SO MY STAFF FOR RIGHT NOW I MEAN
ASIDE FROM THE THE BASIC
REORGANIZATION THAT WE DID LAST
YEAR IF.
IF
WE ADMINISTRATION THE
LEGISLATURE.
PUT OBSTACLES IN PLACE.
FOR REASONS THAT APPEARED
APPROPRIATE AT THE TIME AND MAY
HAVE IN FACT BEEN.
MAYBE THOSE OBSTACLES DON'T NEED
TO BE IN PLACE ANYMORE WE WOULD
WELCOME THAT READ IT WE NEED TO
IDENTIFY THEM AND TO SEE WHAT WE
NEED TO CONTINUE WE WOULD
WELCOME THAT REVIEW.
OKAY.
CAST ALSO ASK I'M THERE ARE
NUMBER OF AUDITS THAT WERE DONE
ON THE FORMER BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION.
IS THERE GOING TO BE HEARINGS
TO SEE ONE OF THE FOLLOW UP
WHETHER THINGS HAVE CHANGED OR
NOT. I MADE A REQUEST TO SEE
WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH ONE THAT
HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH US HERE
IN THE LEGISLATURE AND I DON'T
KNOW THAT MY STAFF TO SET A
RESPONSE YET.
TO WHAT THE STATUS OF IT IS I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.
IF THEY WEREN'T LEGISLATIVE
AUDIT SHOULD TIME BUT JOINT
LEGISLATIVE AUDIT COMMITTEE
AUDIENCE I MEAN THE AUDITS THAT
WERE DONE ON THE WAY THE
CAUSATION THAT LED TO ALL OF THE
REFORMS THAT.
ULTIMATELY WERE MADE SO WELL.
SEVERAL OF THOSE THAT WERE
COMPLETED WE SORT OF I THINK DID
THAT WAY.
AND HAT ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO
MAKE.
AFTER LAST YEAR HAPPY TO DO
THAT WILL FIGURE OUT HOW THE
SCHEDULE THAT WITH YOUR
COOPERATION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE
WE WILL NEED YOU WE WILL NEED
TO.
TAX AND FEE ADMINISTRATION FOLKS
AND WILL NEED THE OFFICE OF TAX
APPEALS TO COME IN AND SORT OF
TALK TO US ABOUT. HOW ALLTHIS
IS SORTING OUT RIGHT NOW I WANNA
MAKE SURE WE GET THIS LITTLE
STAFFING ISSUE GET X. TWENTY ONE
LAST ITEM ON THAT I THINK THE
AND THEN I'M AND THEN I'M I'M?
I BASICALLY IF WE SHARED WHAT WE
NEED TO SHARE AND I THINK THERE
MIGHT BE REPRESENTS ME TO THE
MEMBERS WHO MIGHT WANT TO.
ADAM AT SOME SOME THOUGHT BUT
THE I THINK THE OTHER ISSUE IS
IN IT IF WE DO MOVE FROM THE
IDEA OF GOING FROM SIX.
FOR CIVIL SERVANTS I THINK
THERE'S THERE'S THE TRANSITION
WILL BE IMPORTANT.
BECAUSE I THOUGHT POINT
I ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD DO TO
MAKE THAT HAPPEN WOULD HAVE TO I
THINK REQUIRE NUMBER ONE. ANY OF
THOSE POSITIONS THAT ARE
CURRENTLY CIVIL SERVICE THAT
WOULD BE TRANSIT SOON TRANSITION
TO.
.
TO EXEMPT SHOULD NEED WE NEED
TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME.
SO THAT YOU'RE NOT DEALING WITH
THE REAL PERSON. WHO'S IN A
CIVIL SERVANT POSITION AT THAT
POINT SO AGAIN THAT THAT I THINK
IS IMPORTANT ASPECT. AND AND
NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD.
SO AGAIN UNITED PUTTING A
PERSON WHO WAS CIVIL SERVICE AND
THEN OFFICE AND SAYING WHAT DO
YOU NO LONGER HAVE THAT POSITION
NOW GOING TO BE AN EXEMPT
PERCENT ON THE UPSIDE ARENA THAT
WORKS WITH THE CURRENT POSITION
FILLED WITH THE CURRENT BODY IN
WELL I THINK THAT'S WHY. NEEDS
TO BE VACANT.
AND I THINK IN MOST CASES I
THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CASE CUT
BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
BUT I THINK THE WAY YOU DO I
THINK THE WAY YOU GOT A TRANSIT
IF YOU DON'T YOU BASICALLY ARE
BASICALLY TERMINATING A CIVIL
SERVANT. AND CREATING ANOTHER
ISSUE WON'T BEGIN WITH IRAQ WILL
LET ME SUGGEST THAT YOU LET'S
WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THIS OPEN.
HOPEFULLY YOU ALL WILL CONTINUE
TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS RIGHT
FINANCE AND WITH LA O. IN LIGHT
OF OUR COMMENTS APPEAR.
BEFORE WE BRING THIS BACK AND WE
WILL BRING IT BACK AND WE'LL
CLOSE IT OUT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS WERE CLOSING
OF THE BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE
ITEMS.
BY THE WEEK OF MAY SEVENTEENTH.
AND AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO
ADD.
AGAIN YOU KNOW HAVING CIVIL
SERVANTS WHEN YOU'RE AN ELECTED
OFFICIAL IS.
NOT EASY AND YOU KNOW I WOULD
JUST.
RECOMMEND THAT LIKE THE ASSEMBLY
RIGHT YOU GET CERTAIN BUDGET FOR
OFFICES AND YOU CAN DECIDE HOW
YOU WANT TO ALLOCATE THE OFFICE
DISTRICT STAFF LOOK YOU KNOW
SACRAMENTO STAFF. HOW YOU WANT
TO PAY THEM AND I THINK IN THE
SENATE YOU HAVE SLOTS?
RIGHT THAT YOU CAN FILL.
THAT TO ME MAKES MORE SENSE
THAN CHINA SAY YOU KNOW THE
CONTROLLER I DON'T THINK CAN
ONLY HIRE CERTAIN CIVIL SERVANTS
THE TREASURER. DEBTS BOARD.
THAT SECRETARY OF STATE THE
INSURANCE COMMISSIONER I MEAN
THAT'S KIND OF NOT.
I'M YOU KNOW VERY ITS EAT NOT
pSAY OKAY. WHO DO I HAVE TO
CHOOSE FROM FROM THIS YOU KNOW
GROUP YOU'RE GONNA PULL PEOPLE
OUT? OF THEIR ACTUAL DUTIES
PROBABLY WITHIN THE AGENCY THEN.
AND THEN THAT'S GONNA COME TO
CREATE ANOTHER PROBLEM RIGHT YET
THE BATTLE THAT PERSON ANYWAY
SO.
YOU KNOW ONE AEGIS.
YOU KNOW LET THE ELECTED
OFFICIALS.
LET'S WELCOME WILL HOLD ME LET'S
DO THIS.
IF THERE ANY OTHER
REPRESENTATIVES OF MEMBERS I I
DON'T WANNA I'M GONNA TREAT YOU
A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU
ARE NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO
LEAVE IT.
I WANT TO TREAT YOU A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN PUBLIC
COMMENT ANY OTHER MEMBER
REPRESENTATIVES HERE.
WHAT WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP LET
ME JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING THAT
IT WAS INTERESTING MY STAFF JUST
REMIND ME OF THERE'S A
DISCUSSION REGARDS TO FOR
INSTANCE WHETHER NOW WE TOUCH
CANNABIS?
MY STAFF REMINDED ME THAT NAM A
MEMBER OF THE F. TV YOU I'M
ACTUALLY VOTING ON SEPT CANNABIS
ISSUE WHERE AFTERNOON YOU ARE
THE KIDS OKAY SO WAYS RIGHT NOW
FOR IT WE WE DO TOUCH. WITH
EVERYONE.
I DO NOT LET ME REPHRASE THAT
YEAH.
OKAY.
IF YOU'RE REPRESENTATIVES FROM
OTHER MEMBERS.
I'M LISA OR NOT A DEPUTY DIANNE
HARD.
AND PARENTS.
AND SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
THE STAFFING.
WHEN LAST YEAR WHEN THE STAFF
WERE SPLIT INTO THREE AGENCIES
EVERYONE WAS MOVED ABOUT BASED
ON DEPARTMENTS ARE STAFFING.
AND FOR THE MEMBER OFFICES
STAYED THE SAME BECAUSE WE HAVE
THOSE BORDER INTO DECEMBER.
ANDNOW WE'RE HAVING THE BOARD
MEMBER STAFF ARE LOOKING AROUND
WONDERING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO
DO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE
BOARD MEMBERS NEXT YEAR.
AND MANY OF THOSE STAFF ARE
EXPERTS IN SALES TAX OR INCOME
TAX.
AND SO THEY'RE WONDERING WHERE
THEY'RE GOING TO GO AND WHERE
THEY'RE STAYING IN THE VERY
WORRIED.
AND I'M WORD FOR THEM AS WELL.
ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS HAS
THIRTY YEARS SHE'S BEEN A TAX
AUDITOR AND SALES TAX.
SHE'S IN SAN DIEGO AND SHE'S
BEEN TOLD SHE COULD POSSIBLY BE
SURPLUS TO.
THE CIVIL SERVICE I A CIVIL
SERVICE PERMANENT CIVIL SERVICE.
WHEN IT TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE
BECAUSE THE MEMBERS WANT.
REALLOCATED BECAUSE OF THE
BOARD HEARINGS THAT NOW WE
SHOULD THINK ABOUT MAYBE
REALLOCATING THEM. AT THE END OF
THE YEAR OR END OF NEXT YEAR UP
TO MOVE THEM BACK TO WHERE THEIR
TALENTS LIE.
AND WE HAVE.
TAX ATTORNEYS WHO SPECIALIZE IN
INCOME TAX AND SALES TAX THEY
CAN FORGET OTA OR AT CTF A VOTE
FOR ME AS GOOD QUESTION ONE OF
THE.
REASONS I THINK AND WELL I CAN
SAY YOU I DON'T HAVE TO SAY I
THINK I WAS IN IT ONE OF THE
REASONS FOR ALLOWING EVERYTHING
TO SORT OF STAY IN PLACE FOR
THIS PAST YEAR.
WAS TO GIVE THE THE DEPARTMENT
SEE AGENCIES THE BOARD MEMBERS.
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF
FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DO.
WITH STAFF
ASSUMING THERE WAS GOING TO BE
AN ADJUSTMENT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT AT LEAST THE
NOTES THAT I HAVE REFLECT THAT
THERE WAS A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN
THAT REGARD.
AND I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED
YOU KNOW IN THE IN THE MILITARY
WE WOULD CALL IT A PERSONNEL
ACTION PLAN RIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE
A DOWNSIZING OR REALIGNMENT TO
WORK CLOSURE.
PARTICULAR WAS CIVILIAN
EMPLOYEES WE WOULD FIGURE OUT%
WHAT TO DO WITH THE CIVILIAN
EMPLOYEES AND IN SOME CASES
UNFORTUNATE CASES.
THERE WAS WHEN THEY MIGHT BE
ANYTHING YOU CAN DO BUT AT LEAST
THERE'S A PLANNING PROCESS SO.
I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOUR
CONVERSATION BUT WAS THERE A
PLANNING HAS THERE BEEN A
PLANNING PROCESS THAT IS.
AT LEAST STARTED TO DEVELOP A
PERSONAL ACTION PLAN FOR THE
CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES THAT WE
HAVE IN THE.
WHILE I HAVE BEEN VERY CAREFUL
THESE ARE REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES
SO I'VE BEEN VERY CAREFUL IN
WHAT I HAVE SAID TO THE
EMPLOYEES BECAUSE.
IF DIRECTED THEM TO THE HR
DEPARTMENT.
AND THE HR DEPARTMENT THEY DON'T
HAVE AN ANSWER BUT HR DEPARTMENT
OF. A YOU EAT FACE WAS CDTV OR
GIVEN PERMISSION TO TALK
DIRECTLY TO A PERSON.
AND THEY WERE TOLD WHAT THEY
DON'T KNOW FOR SURE BECAUSE WE
DON'T HAVE A BUDGET THEY DON'T
KNOW WHERE THEIR POSITIONS ARE.
BUT THEY WERE TOLD THAT THEY DID
NOT HAVE RETURN RIGHTS TO THE
VERY AGENCY WHERE THEY STARTED
THEIR CAREERS.
AND THAT INSTEAD THEY HAD
RETURNED RIGHTS TO THE BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION AND THE BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION DOESN'T HAVE AN
OFFICE IN SAN DIEGO. SO IN MOST
LIKELIHOOD THEY DO PUT ON A
SURPLUS LIST.
AND MAYES OVER THESE EMPLOYEES
BEING.
REQUIRE ARE THE EMPLOYEES BEING
REQUIRED TO. INDIVIDUALLY PICKED
UP THE PHONE AND TALK TO WELL
LET ME JUST SAY THIS TO CUT TO
THE CHASE I WOULD CERTAINLY
EXPECT MORE OUT OF STATE
GOVERNMENT.
I FLEW THERE LISTENING SOMEWHERE
IN THE BUILDING HERE.
I WOULD CERTAINLY EXPECT MORE
ORGANIZED APPROACH.
THE DEAL WAS CIVIL SERVICE
EMPLOYEES
WHO WERE BEING.
.
REALIGNED DOWNSIZED OR
POTENTIALLY BEING LAID OFF.
AS A RESULT OF A GOVERNMENT
REORGANIZATION.
THAT WE DIRECT.
I WOULD EXPECT THAT INDIVIDUAL
LEGISLATOR ORES AND THE
LEGISLATURE WOULD NOT NEED TO
GET INTO THE PROCESS OF
MICROMANAGING.
THIS
SITUATION AT THE AGENCY OR
DEPARTMENT LEVEL.
I WOULD EXPECT THAT INDIVIDUAL
EMPLOYEES NOT BE REQUIRED TO
PICK UP THE PHONE AND.
CALL A RANDOM HR PERSON
TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM.
I WOULD EXPECT THAT THE
GOVERNMENT WOULD ORGANIZE
MEETINGS WHERE WE MEET WITH
EMPLOYEES AND TELL THEM WHAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND IF IF THAT'S OF FAILURE AT
THE BO WE FOR NOT INITIATING IT
OKAY IF MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE
INITIATED OKAY.
IF SOMEBODY ELSE SHOULD HAVE
INITIATED IT AND DIDN'T OKAY.
BUT NOW'S THE TIME TO START THAT
PROCESS
AND TO GET THAT DONE.
SO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU HAVE
WHEN YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT I DON'T
REALLY KNOW KNOW I AGREE WITH
YOU BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW
MEMBERS STAFF ARE BEING TREATED
DIFFERENTLY. THAN THE OTHER
AGENCY STAFF THAT WERE MOVED
LAST JULY TO THEIR DIFFERENT
AGENCIES AND SO I. I JUST
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE REMEMBER THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING.
WORLD WOLF TO THE EXTENT THAT
WE HAVE ANY INPUT ON THAT WE'LL
SEE IF WE CAN'T FIX THAT I
APPRECIATE THANK YOU.
YES MA'AM.
I CHAIR ROTH IS SCARRY HAMMONTON
NINE THE CHIEF OF STAFF WITH
MEMBER JEROME HORTON AND THANK
YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO GET
COMMENT TODAY THANK YOU TO CHAIR
RUNNER VICE CHAIR MA I THINK
THAT THEY PRESENTED THE ISSUE
BECAUSE I'M WHILE TODAY.
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE IN THE
ALLEY ó.
WE RESPECT THEIR REPORTS WE DO
AGREE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE THE.
LEVEL OF STAFFING SO WE DON'T
ARGUE THE STAFF I THINK ALL THE
MEMBERS ARE IN AGREEMENT.
WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF
THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE STILL
NOT TRANSITION. I WILL SAY THAT
I KNOW FOR OUR OFFICE ANYWAY WE
HAVE HAD A REDUCTION IN STAFF
QUITE CONSIDERABLY WE ARE
ACTUALLY AT BELOW THE EIGHT WE
HAVE SEVEN STAFF REMAINING. THEY
ARE COMPLEMENT OF THOSE EXAMS
AND CIVIL SERVICE.
THE TIMING AS FAR AS GETTING IT
THE OTHER CONTROL AGENCIES
QUESTIONS WITH.
THE COMMITTEES.
AND SO I THINK WE CAN MOVE
FORWARD WITH THAT OUR QUESTION
ACTUALLY TO THE COMMITTEE IS HOW
DO WE PROCEED WITH THAT I THINK
YOU BROUGHT UP HAVING THAT
OVERSIGHT YOUNG AND MAYBE IT
WOULD BE HELPFUL.
WE ARE NOT SURE IF WE ARE
RESTRICTED BOARD MEMBERS
OFFICES.
ASKING THESE QUESTIONS AT CALLIE
JOIN AS PVE. ON OR WHAT AGENCY
WOULD WOULD IT BE THE BE A WE
THEY DO NOT HAVE AN HR
DEPARTMENT OR WOULD IT BE
THROUGH THE AMMO YOU AGREEMENT
THAT CD FTA BECAUSE THEY RE
ADMINISTERING THOSE TYPE OF
SERVICES TO BOTH THE HELIUM
MEMBERS OPPOSITE.
THE ONLY OTHER QUESTIONS WE HAVE
AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD PLEASE.
CIVIL SERVICE PROTECTIONS AS
EMPLOYEES ARE.
.
PROTECTED BY S. B. B. AND CALLIE
CHAR. AND MEMBERS ARE EXEMPT
FROM.
DISCIPLINARY ACTION AND SO FORTH
FROM S. PP AND THAT THEY ONLY
COVER CIVIL SERVICE SO. IN CIVIL
SERVICE STAFF THAT WERE HIRED
THAT WORK FOR MEMBERS WERE HIRED
BY. THE STATE AGENCY. AND THEIR
PROTECTIONS WERE WITH THAT STATE
AGENCY SO I'M SURE THEIR ANSWERS
WE DON'T HAVE THEM THAT ANSWER
CALLEY TURN SB BECAUSE WAY AND
AND THAT WOULD BE HELPUL IN MAY
BE THIS COMMITTEE AND.
OTHERS IN DETERMINING WHAT
CLASSIFICATIONS SHOULD BE OR
LEGALLY CAMPBELL ARE THE MEMBER
ART. EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN THE
MEMBER OFFICES WHATEVER THEY'RE
CALLED EXEMPT OR.
NON EXEMPT OR CIVIL SERVICE OR
NON CIVIL SERVICE AREN'T THEY
ALL EMPLOYEES OF THE BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION.
WELL WE'VE THEY WERE PROBABLY
WHEN THEY ARE HIRED BEFORE JULY
ONE.
AND WILLIAM THEY STILL
EMPLOYEES OF THE BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION THAT THAT IS
UNCLEAR.
I THINK THAT THAT IS UNCLEAR
BECAUSE IT KEPT LEGISLATIVE
EMPLOYEES SENATE EMPLOYEES.
THE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN MY
OFFICE.
HERE IN THE CAPITOL OR IN THE
DISTRICT.
ARE NOT MY EMPLOYEES THEY'RE NOT
HIRED BY ME.
THEY'RE NOT FIRED BY ME.
THEY'RE NOT DISCIPLINE BY ME.
THEY'RE NOT PAID BY ME IF
THERE'S
CALIFORNIA STATE LEGISLATURE
EMPLOYEES SO ARE THE BOARD
MEMBER EMPLOYEES BOARD AREN'T
THEY BOARD OF EQUALIZATION YOU
ACTUAR GOING TO ONE OF THE CORE
CONCERNS THAT WERE HAVE.
THE HR ARENA AND THAT IS RETURN
RIGHTS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW. THE
FOLKS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH
THE CD TFA OUR TALK ABOUT RETURN
RIGHTS ONLY TO BACK TO POOR
MEMBER OFFICES.
AND AND THAT'S A PROBLEM
BECAUSE.
THE SAME TIME YOU CUT THE BOARD
MEMBERS OFFICES GOING INTO THE
FUTURE SO THERE SO WE WOULD
AGREE WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT
RETURN RIGHT SHOULD BE INDEED
TO.
EITHER THE BE.
WE OR EVEN BACK TO THE EIGHT
BUT BACK TO THE NEW AGENCY.
WE BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THE
PROPER ISSUE BECAUSE SAYING YOU
HAVE RETURN RIGHTS BACK TO BOARD
MEMBERS OFFICE ONLY WE THINK IS
IS VERY PROBLEMATIC IN THAT'S.
IN JUST SO YOU KNOW I HAVE MET
WITH CITY TFA IN TERMS THEIR HR
WITH MY STAFF.
WE WE WE AGAIN THERE IN A AYE
WELL I GUESS I BEST SAY THEY'RE
IN A BIT OF A FOG IS SOMETIMES
HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE.
WILL SO WE ARE INITIATING A
MEETING THROUGH OUR E. D..
ARE IN REGARDS TO CALAIS CHAR.
TO TRY TO CLARIFY THIS ISSUE
BECAUSE.
THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE CRUX
OF THE ISSUES IN REGARDS TO WEAR
AT WORK WHO
WHO ARE THEY EMPLOY WILL ONLY
MAKE A SUGGESTION I MEAN I'M
GONNA TAKE SOME MA'AM YOU CAN NO
NO I'LL I'LL TAKE YOU STOOD UP
SO I'M NOT GONNA MAKE YOU SIT
OUT. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE SOME
COMMON AND THEY WILL DO PUBLIC
COMING AYE AYE ONE OF.
I WANT A.
MOVES AYE I MAY LOSE BOARD
MEMBERS AND I HAVE YET VOTES TO
TAKE TODAY SO YOU REMEMBER THAT
OF MISTER JENNER AYE JAY I JUST
CHANGED MY LIFE ABSOLUTELY GOD
BLESS YOU WE APPRECIATE THAT.
.
BOY WHAT I WANNA DO IS SOME OF
THIS STUFF WHAT CAN BE COVERED
IN THE HEARING THAT I'M
PROPOSING THAT WE HAVE ON.
UNRESOLVED ISSUES AND I'D LIKE
TO SORT OF PUSH IT TO THAT
INCLUDING THE COMMENTS THAT
YOU'VE MADE IN YEARS MISTER
CHAIR.
I SENSE THAT I HAVE SOMEONE WHO
MAIN KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THESE
ISSUES READ SOMETHING TO SAY I
WANT TO TAKE YOUR COMMENTS MA'AM
AND THEN. WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC
COMMENT IN WITH EVERYBODY'S
CONSENT.
WE'LL MOVE THIS.
CHECK YOUR EARLY THE ISSUES
UNRESOLVED ISSUES.
A SUBJECT TO PROBABLY SOMETIME
AFTER THE TH SEVENTEENTH MAY I
WOULD THINK.
GIVEN THE AVAILABILITY OF STAFF
pI'M KATIE HAGEN CHIEF DEPUTY
DIRECTOR AT CD TFA. SO THE HR
SHOP THAT SUPPORTS POV REPORTS
UNDER ME.
IN THE ORGANIZATION AND I'VE
I'VE BEEN PART OF THIS HEARING
TODAY AND.
TUESDAY'S HEARING AS WELL AND
HAVE TAKEN.
.
UP PLENTY OF NOTES AND HAVE ALSO
SPOKE TO A NUMBER OF IMPACTED
BOARD MEMBER STAFF IN THE
HALLWAY.
WHOSE LIVELIHOODS THAT THIS
THESE DISCUSSIONS.
IMPACTS
AND.
I WOULD LIKE TO COMMIT THAT.
WE WILL MEET WITH IMPACTED
PURSE NOW WE WILL CLARIFY WITH
THE CIVIL SERVICE STAFF.
THAT ARE AS OF NOW NOT IMPACTED.
AND REASSURE THEM.
AND THEN TALK TO THE
INDIVIDUALS.
THE FOR EXAMS THAT ARE IMPACTED
AND CLARIFY THEIR RIGHTS
AND THEY DO IF THEY HAVE PRIOR
CIVIL SERVICE STATUS THEY DO%
HAVE A RETURN RIGHT IT MAY NOT
LEAD TO THE PLACE THEY WOULD.
PREFER AYE WE HAVE GEOGRAPHIC
LIMITATIONS ON WHERE VACANCIES
ARE FOR EXAMPLE. I'M BUT WE WILL
GO THROUGH THE SURPLUS AND AND
PLACEMENT PROCESS.
AND I JUST WANTED.
EMPHASIZE I'VE HEARD WORDS LIKE
LAYOFF CAN TERMINATION AND THOSE
THAT FROM ME THAT IS THAT IS THE
LAST PIECE.
PAUSE TO NERIO ON THAT I DON'T
THINK WE'LL END UP FACTS AND WE
WE.
WITH A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND OF
THE VARIETY OF CIVIL SERVICE
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE I'M
CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN.
DO OUR BEST TO PLACE THOSE
THOSE FOLKS SO AM I ALSO WANT TO
MAKE ONE COMMENT ON THAT SUPPORT
IN GENERAL OUT TO BE A WE. AND
WE DO HAVE AN INTERAGENCY
AGREEMENT THAT WAS REFERENCED
EARLIER AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE
ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT IF THE.
WE WITH LIKE EXPANDED SERVICES
FOR THEIR SUPPORT AREAS THEIR IT
SERVICES ARE AT MEN ON BOTH OF
THE DIRECTORS OF DEPARTMENTS
SIGN THAT INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT.
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY REVISITED
AT A GIVEN POINT IF THAT'S THE
DESIRE OF THE BOOK DEPARTMENT.
AND PLEASE IF YOU ALL I ASSUME
THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONTINUING
CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE OF THIS
ROOM AND OUTSIDE OF TODAY IN
FACT.
BETWEEN THE MEMBERS BO WE
FINANCE LA THOUGH DEPARTMENT OF
TAX AND FEE ADMINISTRATION.
.
AND IF THOSE CONVERSATIONS
RESOLVE ALL OF THESE ISSUES I
DON'T NEED TO. I'M NOT LOOKING
FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY COME
BACK IN HERE AND SIT IN THIS
CHAIR IS SO. EITHER WAY YOU'LL
LET ME KNOW OKAY SHEET THAT
THANK YOU THANK YOU MANY PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE.
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
MARKUP PRAY I'M HERE ON BEHALF
THE CALIFORNIA LINES OF.
TAXPAYER ADVOCATES WARY STATE
TRADE ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING.
PROPERTY TAX AGENTS WHO
REPRESENT.
.
I TAXPAYERS.
PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY
OWNERS
FOR COUNTY ASSESSORS ASSESSMENT
APPEALS BOARDS.
AND OCCASIONAL BEFORE THE BOARD
OF EQUALIZATION AND I WANT TO
SUPPORT THE TESTIMONY. OF THE
BILL WE MEMBERS AND THEIR
REPRESENTATIVES.
I AS WELL AS THE COMMENTS MADE
BY THE.
CHAIR AND BY MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. TO SUPPORT OUR
STAFFING.
SO THAT WHEN CONSTITUENTS CALL
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CONFLICT
WITH AN ASSESSOR WHETHER THEY
ARE. CONCERNED ABOUT A
PARTICULAR MATTER ARE TRYING TO
INTERPRET OR UNDERSTAND HBO WE
RAG OR AN ASSESSMENT APPEALS
MANUAL. OR UNDERSTANDING WHAT A
LETTER TO THE ASSESSOR MEANS.
ETCETERA THAT THERE ARE FOLKS
THAT THEY CAN CALL THAT
REPRESENT THEM AND CAN HELP THEM
GET THE ANSWERS SO WE WOULD
ENCOURAGE THAT YOU'D NOT ONLY.
FUND.
THE STAFFING TO EIGHT BUT
PROVIDE THE. BILL WE MEMBERS THE
GREATEST FLEXIBILITY TO RESPOND
TO THAT CAN.
Q. THANKS FOR COMING.
YES MA'AM.
HI MY NAME IS KATHERINE ASPREY
AND AYE MEN AND ONE OF THE CIVIL
SERVANTS YOU ARE SPEAKING THAT.
I MIGHT WORK FOR WHATEVER MA AND
I THINK YOU FOR COMING BY THINK
WELFARE HAVING ME. IN FOR
LISTENING TO MY STORY I AM I
HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH REMEMBER
MOSS AND SHE WAS FIRST ELECTED.
I CAME FROM THE CTF A. PAY
FIFTEEN YEARS OF SERVICE WITH
THE AGENCY.
I CAME FROM A DISTRICT OFFICE
WHEN I TOOK THIS JOB IT WAS
UNDER THE PROMISE THAT. WHEN HER
TERM WAS THAT WHEN THE TIME CAME
I WOULD BE ABLE TO RETURN TO THE
CTF A.
AND YOU THINK THAT'S HOW IT
WORKS BEFORE THE WHOLE BODY CAME
AROUND AND.
.
WAS EXAMINED ON HOW EMPLOYEES
WERE KIND OF LOOKED AROUND.
.
WHEN THE TRANSITION OCCURRED.
AT MARIBEL BOETTCHER FROM GABAB
SAID OVER AND OVER COUNTLESS
TIMES NOBODY WILL LOSE THEIR
JOB.
AND I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I'VE
BEEN TOLD BY HR TEACH YET PHASE
HR THAT I COULD. BE LAYOFFS.
OR.
I DON'T HAVE AND THAT I DON'T
HAVE REINSTATEMENT RIGHTS.
AND TO ME IT'S JUST SUPER
DISCOURAGING THAT AFTER FIFTEEN
YEARS IN STATE SERVICE.
I'M BEING TREATED LIKE THIS.
I'M.
I JUST HOPE THAT WITH YOUR HELP
I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO DO
THIS BUT PERHAPS YOU CAN HELP
SOMEHOW.
AND TO NAVIGATE ME BACK TO THE
C. T. IF A IF AND WHEN I NEED TO
GO BACK.
I DO FEEL LIKE I'M A VALUABLE
EMPLOYEE AND I CAN ADD. VALUE TO
THEIR ART WELL I'M NOT ONE WHO'S
THINKS THAT WE CAN START THE
BALL ROLLING DOWN THE HILL AND
THEN WALK AWAY WE.
CERTAINLY PARTICIPATED IF NOT
IN AD MORE THAN PARTICIPATED IN
LAST YEAR'S.
ACTIVITY THAT RESULTED IN WHAT
WE HAVE TODAY.
AND I DO THINK IS LEGISLATORS
AND AS A LEGISLATURE THAT WE
HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ENSURE
THAT GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
APPROPRIATELY DEAL WITH
EMPLOYEES WHO WERE ADVERSE
POTENTIALLY ADVERSELY IMPACTED
BY THE RESULTS OF OUR ACTIONS
SO.
YOU WERE HERE I MEANT WHAT I
SAID BEFORE AND I CERTAINLY
EXPECT GOVERNMENT TO HAVE A MORE
ORGANIZED APPROACH TO.
CHLOE'S WITH RESPECT WHO ARE
POTENTIALLY ADVERSELY IMPACTED
BY THIS
REORGANIZATION WHETHER IT'S FIVE
OF THEM TEN OF THEM FIFTY OF
OVER A HUNDRED AND FIFTY OF
THEM.
AND SO I WOULD EXPECT SOMEBODY
TO LET ME KNOW IF THAT DOESN'T
OCCUR IN ACCORDANCE WITH MY.
STATEMENT.
OKAY THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE
AND THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH
US KEEPING CLOGGING.
ANYTHING ELSE.
THANK YOU MS MEMBERS THANK YOU
FOR COMING
OKAY NEXT ITEM SEVEN SIX ZERO
ZERO TO PERMANENT TAX AND FEE
ADMINISTRATION ISSUE ONE CROSS.
CENTRALIZED REVENUE OPPORTUNITY
SYSTEM PROJECT PAGE SIX ON THE
AGENDA.
OF
.
I AGAIN I'M BACK YOU HAVING READ
YES.
SO DIFFERENT TOPIC I WON'T TO
COVER THE M..
TRANSITION OF THE DEPARTMENTS
LIKE A TYPICALLY DO SINCE IT
SEEMS YOU'RE VERY WELL VERSED IN
THAT. I WOULD GO THAT FAR BUT
WILL PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER
BUT I I WAS HOPING.
TO JUST QUICKLY RUN THROUGH A
COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK
I'M BEFORE A HANDED OVER TO
SCOTT HIS OUR. PROJECT DIRECTOR
OF FOR CROSS TO TALK ABOUT OUR
VCP SPECIFICALLY.
BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME
OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES AT CD TFA.
.
TO KIND OF BRING.
EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED. SO
OBVIOUSLY ONE OF OUR TOP
PRIORITIES IS.
TAKING A LOOK AT HARNESSING OUR
OUR AUTOMATION PROJECT ACROSS
INDEED ANALYTICS SO THAT WE CAN
GET TO MORE DATED DID.
DRIVEN DECISION MAKING.
BECAUSE OF PAST ISSUES.
WITH THE STEP THAT DEPARTMENTS
I SEPARATING WHERE I FOCUSING ON
ENSURING MERIT BASED HIRING AND
OUR DEPARTMENT AND EMPHASIZING
EMPLOYEE TRAINING.
AND SPECIFICALLY ON INTERNAL
CONTROLS.
I WERE ALSO FOCUSING ON
DEVELOPING PERFORMANCE MEASURES.
AND.
ARE REPORTING AND MONITORING.
UNDERLYING ALL OF THESE GOALS
IS OUR DRIVE TOWARDS ENTERPRISE
LEVEL MANAGEMENT TO BREAK DOWN
SILOS AND INEFFICIENCIES WITHIN
THE DEPARTMENT.
AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE
ACTIVELY DOING.
THAT THE LEGISLATURE MIGHT BE
INTERESTED IN IS.
WE'RE DEVELOPING A NEW
STRATEGIC PLANNING NEW BUSINESS
PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES OUR GOALS
AND OBJECTIVES.
HIGHLIGHTS OUR PRIORITIES AND.
PROMOTES CHANGE AN EXECUTIVE
ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE'VE ESTABLISHED A REGULAR
ENTERPRISE RISK MANAGEMENT
MEETINGS OUT TO IDENTIFY AND
PRIORITIZE RISKS AND DEVELOPS
PUT UP PLANS TO MITIGATE THOSE
RISKS.
WE'VE DEVELOPED AN ANTI NEPOTISM
POLICY AND PROVIDED TRAINING AND
BEST PRACTICES FOR MERIT BASED
HIRING.
BUT WE'VE ALSO SPEND OUT QUITE A
BIT A TIME IMPLEMENTING
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE MISSION
BASED REVIEW RECOMMENDATIONS.
I'M WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT ONE
OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO
ESTABLISH TWO NEW EXECUTIVE
POSITIONS WERE IN THE PROCESS OF
DOING THAT. OUT ONE WOULD BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR AUDITS AND ONE
WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
COMPLIANCE.
WE ARE REVISING AND REVISITING
AUDIT AND COLLECTION POLICIES AS
ISSUES ARISE.
WE ALSO BELIEVE BY HIRING THESE
TWO NEW.
EXECUTIVES ARE THAT WE CN
ENSURE THAT OUR POLICIES ARE
BETTER A UNIFORMLY APPLIED
ACROSS THE STATE. AND WE CAN
DEVELOP A FEEDBACK MECHANISM ON
EXISTING POLICIES ARM.
MORE EFFICIENTLY.
ON THE ALLOW US MORE
EFFICIENTLY.
ACHIEVE UNIFORMITY IN TAX
ADMINISTRATION ACROSS THE STATE
WERE ALSO LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF
SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND
R. RANCHO CUCAMONGA OFFICE.
AND OUR INVESTIGATIONS AND
SPECIAL OPERATIONS DIVISION.
I FINALLY WERE CONDUCTING AN
INDEPTH STUDY.
TO DETERMINE HOW OUR FIELD
OFFICES SHOULD ULTIMATELY BE
STRUCTURED KIND OF TO OUR
EARLIER POINT DIE AT.
DURING TO BE OBESE DISCUSSION.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WERE
APPROPRIATELY STRUCTURED IN THE
INCLUDES PHYSICAL LOCATIONS OF
OUR OFFICES.
OUT IN THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE STRATEGIC DIRECTION OUT OF
CTF A.
I'M I WANTED TO SPEND JUST
ANOTHER MINUTE TALKING ABOUT
OUTREACH EDUCATION BECAUSE
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A VERY
IMPORTANT TOPIC TO EVERYONE. AYE
TAXPAYER EDUCATION IS PARAMOUNT
AYE AYE TO EFFECTIVE TAX
COLLECTION AS MOST OF OUR
REVENUE COMES TO US VOLUNTARILY.
OUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
TAXPAYERS HAVE ALL THE KNOWLEDGE
THEY NEED TO COMPLY WITH OUR TAX
LAWS. AND TO THAT END.
DURING THIS CALENDAR YEAR WE
HAVE CONDUCTED OR ARE PLANNING
TO CONDUCT THROUGH THE REMAINDER
OF THIS YEAR UPWARDS OF FIVE
HUNDRED. AYE TAXPAYER EDUCATION
EVENTS
WE'RE CONDUCTING THOSE AYE DAYS
NIGHTS AND WE WEEKENDS.
IN AN EFFORT TO SORT OF REACH
ALL ADS ARE ALSO THAT TYPES OF
BUSINESS OWNERS.
AND TAXPAYERS.
OF THOSE FIVE HUNDRED WE.
EXAMPLES ARE TAX SEMINARS AT
SMALL BUSINESS FAIRS BASIC SALES
AND USE TAX CLASSES TAX RETURN
PREPARATION CLASSES AND I NUMBER
OF ONLINE E. CLINICS.
BY CONTRAST THERE WERE A HUNDRED
AND EIGHTY THREE OUTREACH EVENTS
THAT WERE CONDUCTED IN SIXTEEN
SEVENTEEN SO MOVE REALLY. SORT
OF BROUGHT IT OUT ARM SEVERAL
STEPS.
I'M ANOTHER TOPIC THAT A LOT OF
FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN AS
CANNABIS
AND I WE'VE DONE A LOT OF
OUTREACH EFFORTS. ON THIS
PARTICULAR AS A ISSUE AS WELL
CONNECTING A DOZEN OR SO
CANNABIS OUTREACH.
EVENTS SO FAR THIS YEAR.
WE CONTINUE TO ADD ADDITIONAL
EVENTS.
WE ALSO HAVE EXTENSIVE
RESOURCES AVAILABLE ONLINE AND
CONDUCT REGULAR OUTREACH
UTILIZING SEVERAL SPECIAL
NOTICES THAT HAVE BEEN MAILED IN
EMAILED. A REGISTER TAXPAYERS IN
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP
FOR OUR CANNABIS OUT REACH THE
SERVE.
AND WE'VE ALSO DONE A NUMBER OF
INFORMATIONAL ARTICLES ARE THAT
HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED IN VARIOUS
PUBLICATIONS AND NEWSLETTERS.
I FINALLY WE HAVE FORMED A
CANNABIS TAX ADVISORY GROUP.
WHERE WE'VE REACHED OUT TO
VARIOUS CANNABIS BUSINESS OWNERS
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATIONS TAX
PRACTITIONERS
CITY AND COUNTY ASSOCIATIONS AND
ASK THEM TO PROVIDE A
REPRESENTATIVE FROM THEIR AREA
OF EXPERTISE?
TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS ADVISORY
GROUP AND WE WILL MEET
PERIODICALLY DISCUSS CANNABIS
TAX ISSUES OUR FIRST MEETING.
STARTS ON APRIL NINETEENTH OF
THIS MONTH.
I'M AND WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO
NOW TURN IT OVER TO SCOTT WHO'S
GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR CROSS
PROJECT.
BEFORE WE GO THERE LET ME JUST
ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND ONE
HAS TO DO WITHOUT REACH.
OBVIOUSLY IN THE AREAS THAT
YOU'RE DOING OUT REACH THESE
pOF EQUALIZATION MEMBERS
INDIVIDUALLY WERE.
I HAVE.
FOR YEARS BEEN ENGAGED IN.
AND OUT REACH IN THESE RATHER
LARGE DISTRICTS THAT THEY HAVE.
THERE OBVIOUSLY STILL IS SOME
INTEREST ON THE PART OF BOARD
MEMBERS.
TODAY AND PERHAPS AS THEY CHANGE
TOMORROW.
A IN PARTICIPATING IN THESE
OUTREACH EFFORTS.
DOES THE DEPARTMENT MAKE.
EITHER DOES THE DEPARTMENT OR
WILL. OF THE DEPARTMENT MAKE AN
EFFORT TO.
JOIN WITH OF BOARD WAS BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION MEMBERS AND
PARTICIPATE IN OUTREACH IN THEIR
DISTRICTS.
TO GIVE BOARD MEMBERS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN
THE OUT REACH THAT WE DO FUND.
AS A STATE IN THESE AREAS SINCE
THEY ARE ELECTED'S. AND AS ALL
OF ASTUTE TAKE QUESTIONS.
PROBABLY.
MORE THAN OCCASIONAL QUESTIONS
ARE ON THESE ISSUES AND CONTINUE
TO DO SO
SURE I AM I CAN TELL YOU THAT
OUR FOCUS HAS CHANGED FROM THOSE
THAT. THE BOARD MEMBER INITIATED
EVENTS THAT WERE CONDUCTED THEY
WERE.
A NUMBER OF THEM ARE RATHER
LARGE IN SCALE ON AND THEY WERE
PROMOTED VIA IF YOU KNOW VARIOUS
ADVERTISING.
OUTREACH EFFORT WE HAVE
APPROACHED IT DIFFERENTLY.
WE CONDUCT SOME OUT OF OUR
FIELD OFFICES
I PRIMARILY AT WHERE WE'RE
CONDUCTING WORKSHOPS AND I'M IN
THE EVENING AND ON WEEKENDS AB
DURING THE BUSINESS HOURS. TO
REALLY REACH OUT TO OUR TAX
PAYER I CONSTITUENTS.
BUT WE ARE FREQUENTLY ASKED TO
TO.
PARTICIPATE IN ELECTED'S.
VARIOUS EVENTS AND I AND I
WOULD NOT RULE OUT AT A BOARD
MEMBER INVITATION TO DO THE SAME
SO. I DON'T I CAN'T TELL YOU FOR
SURE IF WE'VE DONE THAT THUS FAR
THIS CALENDAR YEAR I CAN CHECK
ON THAT. BUT CERTAINLY GOING
FORWARD WE WOULD WE COULD HAVE
THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR
NOT WE WANTED TO PARTNER
TOGETHER OR PARTICIPATE IN AN
EVENT THAT THEY WERE ALSO. WILL
THIS YOU KNOW WE'RE DEALING WITH
ELECTED HERE AND MISS A
REORGANIZATION THAT.
PARTICIPATED IN APPEARANCE.
IN THE LEGISLATURE LAST YEAR WAS
A BIT DRAMATIC.
MEN NOT JUST FOR THE EMPLOYEES
IMPACTED IN THE DEPARTMENTS AND
AGENCIES INVOLVED BUT CERTAINLY
FOR THE. ELECTIVES THAT WERE.
HOLD ALONG FOR THE RIDE AS WELL
SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TAKE A
LOOK AT THAT AND.
TO THE EXTENT THAT.
A BOARD MEMBER.
SUGGESTION WITH RESPECT OUT
REACH DOESN'T EXACTLY FIT.
.
THE MOLD FOR YOUR CURRENT
OUTREACH EFFORTS MAYBE.
TAKEN EXPANDED VIEW OF WHAT OUT
REACH LOOKS LIKE NOW I'M NOT
SUGGESTING WE SPEND MUCH MONEY
OR THAT WE HAVE PEOPLESTANDING
IN PARKING LOTS DIRECTING
PARKING.
BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY WAYS TO
TO HELP BOARD MEMBER ELECTED'S
GET THE WORD OUT TO CONSTITUENTS
WITHIN THEIR DISTRICTS WHO WERE
CALLING THEM.
STILL ON ISSUES THAT ARE NOT
EXACTLY IN THE SANDBOX
IF CREATED FOR THEM TO MAKE SEN
UNDERSTOOD YESTERDAY. AND THEN
MY LAST QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE
TO THE ISSUE AT HAND CROSSES.
OF THE PERSONAL INTEGRATION P.
SIN.
CULTURAL ISSUES WITHIN THE
DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE HEARD SOME OF THAT OF BUT
ASIDE FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD HOW
ARE YOU HANDLING PERSONAL
INTEGRATION AND.
.
A CULTURE SHIFT THAT I ASSUME
MIGHT OCCUR WHEN YOU GO FROM
ONE.
AGENCY OR DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER.
YES I'M WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT
OF FACTS AND AYE WE COLLECTIVELY
THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AND CD TFA.
HAVE BEEN FOCUSING A LOT ON OUR
WORKFORCE
AND.
ACTUALLY WE JUST RECENTLY.
COMPLETED A.
EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT SURVEY.
AND THROUGH CALLIE CHAR IN
THEIR THIRD PARTY A CONTRACTOR
AND I WE HOPE TO HAVE THOSE
RESULTS VERY SOON WE HAD A VERY
HIGH PARTICIPATION RATE HIGHEST
THAT. THAT THEY'D EVER SEEN.
AND.
WHERE THAT SOMEONE TO SAY YES
THEY DO? AND I SO WE'RE LOOKING
FORWARD TO GETTING THAT
INFORMATION BACK AND WE'RE
LOOKING AT THAT AS A BASELINE.
ON YOU KNOW WHAT. YOU KNOW HOW
TO FOLKS FEEL ABOUT WORKING HERE
AND.
THEN WE PLAN ON TACKLING A PLAN
TO.
IMPROVE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT SO
THAT WE CAN I DELIVER ON OUR AT
MISSION VISION AND AND GOALS
THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED FOR THE
ORGANIZATION.
UP WE'VE ALSO ACAN STARTED
CONDUCTING TOWN HALL MEETINGS
REGULARLY.
WHERE WE LIVE CAST ALL OF OUR
AND?
I HAD FIELD OFFICES TAKE
QUESTIONS I'M TRYING TO KEEP
FOLKS UP TO SPEED WITH ALL OF
THE MAJOR CHANGES GOING ON IN
THE ORGANIZATION.
WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A NEWSLETTER
SO WE HAVE A VARIETY OF.
INITIATIVES UNDER WAY.
WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT
WITH THE STAFF
AND?
AND TRIED TO BRING UP THE
MORALE BECAUSE RECOGNIZING IT
WAS THAT IT WAS QUITE NAM AT
CHANGES HARD FOR PEOPLE AND
THERE WAS A LOT OF CHANGE GOING
ON IN THE LAST YEAR.
STE SIDE BELIEVE I ASKED THE
DIRECTOR OF THIS IT IS
CONFIRMATION HEARING BUT WOULD
YOU.
WOULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT.
THAT STAFF GETS A COPY OF THE
SURVEY RESULTS IF YOU'RE WILLING
TO RELEASE THEM WHEN YES SIR
WINDOWS COMES HERE OKAY THANK
YOU.
CROSS.
GOOD AFTERNOON MISTER CHAIRMAN
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
MONEY OF SKY CAP ALONG ON THE
PROJECT DIRECTOR FOR THE
CENTRALIZED REVENUE OPPORTUNITY
SYSTEM.
BEFORE I GET INTO A BRIEF.
PROJECTS STATUS UPDATE I JUST
WANTED TO COVER.
AND HIGH LEVEL SOME OF THE
PROJECT OBJECTIVES AND THE
PROJECT SOLUTION.
SOME OF THE DIRECTORS OF THIS
PROJECT FOR TO REPLACE THE
DEPARTMENT'S OUTDATED LEGACY
SYSTEMS THAT WERE DEVELOPED IN
THE NINETEEN NINETIES.
IT WAS ALSO TO CREATE A MORE
CUSTOMER CENTRIC SOLUTION.
I DECREASED THE TAX GAP. AS WELL
AS RE ENGINEER AND IMPROVE
PROGRAM PROCESSES.
THE PROJECT SOLUTION THAT WE
HAVE IT WAS AWARDED A FIXED
PRICE CONTRACT TO FAST
ENTERPRISES THAT IN AUGUST OF
TWENTY TO TWENTY SIXTEEN IN THE
AMOUNT OF EIGHTY FIVE POINT ONE
MILLION DOLLARS.
I THEIR SOLUTION IS A COMMERCIAL
OFF THE SUIT SELF SOFTWARE
SOLUTION CALLED JIM TAX.
A THAT IS IN USE IN TWENTY FIVE
DEPARTMENTS OF REVENUE IN THE
UNITED STATES.
THAT SYSTEM PROVIDES DATA
WAREHOUSE AND DATA ANALYTICS
CAPABILITIES.
I GREATER ACCESS TO OUR DATA.
OPPORTUNITIES FOR REVENUE
GENERATION.
OUR VENDOR PROJECTS THAT. THIS
SOLUTION WILL INCREASE REVENUE
OF APPROXIMATELY THREE HUNDRED
AND THIRTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS
OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS.
OUR CURRENT STATUS IS THAT WE
ARE ON SCHEDULE AND ON BUDGET TO
IMPLEMENT OUR FIRST PRODUCTION
ROLLOUT NEXT MONTH.
THAT WILL INCLUDE THE SALES AND
USE TAX PROGRAM AS WELL AS
RELATED FIELDS PEEPER GRAMS.
THIS REPRESENTS THE BIGGEST
PHASE OF THE PROJECT.
THE LARGEST TAXPAYER BASE AND
THE NUMBER OF USERS
APPROXIMATELY. A ONE POINT FIVE
MILLION TAX AND FEE PEERS WILL
START USING THE SYSTEM NEXT
MONTH.
AS WELL AS FOUR THOUSAND.
EACH YEAR FACE EMPLOYEES.
I WERE FINISHING THE LAST PHASE
OF TESTING AND OUR DATA
CONVERSION ACTIVITIES.
AS WELL AS CONDUCTING TRAINING
FOR STAFF.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO
ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGE MANAGEMENT
ACTIVITIES TO PROMOTE USER
ADOPTION.
AS WELL AS MAKE PREPARATIONS FOR
OUR NEXT ROLLOUT WHICH WILL
INCLUDE TWELVE ADDITIONAL
SPECIAL TAX AND FEE PROGRAMS.
THAT'S SCHEDULED AMPLE MEN IN
APRIL OF TWENTY NINETEEN.
A AND THEN OUR FINAL PRODUCTION
ROLLOUT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED IN
MAY OF TWENTY TWENTY AND THAT
WOULD INCLUDE THE REMAINING
SPECIAL TAX AND FEE PROGRAMS.
SORT BUDGET CHANGE PROPOSAL.
FUNDING REQUEST OF SEVENTY
POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS
INCLUDES A VENDOR COMPENSATION
PAYMENT. OF FIFTY TWO MILLION
DOLLARS. AND ALLOWS THE PROJECT
TO CONTINUE WITH THE
IMPLEMENTATION PHASE FOR THE
REMAINING TAX INCREASE PROGRAMS
ADMINISTERED BY THE DEPARTMENT.
AT THIS TIME I'D BE HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
FINANCING COMMENT.
ONE OF THIS PROPOSAL LEO.
I WOULD JUST HIGHLIGHT FREER
PLANNING PURPOSES THAT.
.
THE BICU DA THE OR THE TIMING
OF THAT MAJOR ROLE LETTER IN
EARLY MAY YOU COULD HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY.
IN MID MAY TO. STRICKEN AND SEE
HOW THAT'S GOING BEFORE YOU.
MAKE YOUR FINAL DECISIONS ON THE
BUDGET THANK YOU THAT'S A GOOD
COMMENT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION
IS TO HOLD THIS ITEM OPEN WHICH
WE WILL DO THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES
ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON.
ON CROSS.
OKAY I SEE WE HAVE THE.
NEW DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF
TAX APPEALS WITH THIS.
CASE THE DIRECTOR WOULD LIKE TO
COME UP AND GIVE US ANY UPDATE
ON.
THE NEW OFFICE OF TAX APPEALS
OPERATION THANK YOU BOTH VERY
MUCH.
WE KNOW THIS GENTLEMAN WELL I
DIDN'T KNOW IF HE'D WANTED TO
SAY ANYTHING OR NOT.
PDF TO ADDRESS THEM FOR ME.
THANK YOU SENATOR.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO.
.
GIVE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW IF IF
YOU'RE A WOULD LIKE US TO DO
THAT SO.
TIME.
ARCHIVAL THE DIRECTOR OF OFFICE
OF TAX APPEALS AND I'M JOINED BY
MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE LAST TO
INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
GOOD AFTERNOON. AND HEARING
GRADING.
AFTER.
CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
OKAY THANK YOU SENATOR. ROTH AND
MEMBERS A COMMITTEE WILL GIVE
YOU A VERY HIGH LEVEL.
WILL CALL THE HUNDRED DAY
REPORT OF THE OFFICE OF TAX
APPEALS.
YOU KNOW IS YOU KNOW THAT THE.
THE GOAL OF THE OFFICE IS A
VERY NARROW ONE BUT A VERY
PROFOUNDLY IMPORTANT ONE.
WHICH IS TO PROVIDE A VENUE FOR
FAIR AND IMPARTIAL EDUCATION TAX
DISPUTES.
WITH OPINIONS BASED ON EVIDENCE
AND LAW AND SET FORTH THE
CONSISTENT INTERPRETATION
STATUTE.
AND THE WAY THE OFFICE IS
STRUCTURED IN AB IT WANT TO.
AND AB ONE THIRTY ONE.
REFLECTS THAT.
WITH AN INDEPENDENT OFFICE WE
ARE INDEPENDENT FROM BOTH OF THE
TAX AGENCIES.
WE ARE INDEPENDENT FROM THE
AGENCY TO WHICH THAT IS TAX
AGENCIES REPORT WE'VE REPORT
DIRECTLY TO THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE.
AND AT THE ADJUDICATION AND
DECISION MAKING IS A PANEL OF
THREE.
ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGES AND
THE OPINIONS OF THOSE PANELS ARE
NOT SUBJECT TO APPROVAL ARE
REVIEWED BY ANY OTHER ENTITY.
UNLESS OF COURSE IT GOES TO THE
COURT.
.
THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.
YOU SHOULD HAVE A. PAMPHLET OR
FOLDER WITH SOME INFORMATION THE
ORGANIZATIONAL CHART THAT WE.
IS REFLECTED IN THE BLUE BOXES
REFLECTS THAT INDEPENDENCE AS
WELL SO I JUST WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT.
A COUPLE THINGS I'M ONE OF WHICH
IS THAT.
WE DON'T RELY ON LEGAL
INTERPRETATION OR ANALYSIS BY
EITHER THE TAX AGENCIES WE HAVE
STAFF ATTORNEYS ON THE
FOUNDATION GROUP'S WITCHES.
ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT CHART
THAT DOES ALL THE LEGAL ANALYSIS
AND.
AND SUMMARIES AND PROPOSED
OPINIONS FOR THE A LJ HAS.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE
INDEPENDENCE IS.
ONE OBJECTIVITY IS TO.
IN THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART THE
A LJ IS ARE SUPERVISED IN TERMS
OF REPORTING AND RESOURCE AND SO
FORTH TO BOTH THE DIRECTOR. AND
THE CHIEF COUNSEL TO PROVIDE A A
SORT OF CHECK THEIR.
.
I WANTED TO JUST.
YOU KNOW A COUPLE THINGS THAT
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT THE
OFFICE CONTINUES TO BE
ACCESSIBLE TO TAXPAYERS.
UNDERREPRESENTED UNSOPHISTICATED
OR MAYBE REPRESENTED BY NON TAX
EXPERTS.
AT THE SAME TIME WE WANT TO
HAVE AN AGENCY IN OFFICE THAT IS
ABLE TO HANDLE THE MOST
DIFFICULT AND TECHNICAL OF
DISPUTES.
SO WE WANTED TO BE ACCESSIBLE
AND WE'RE WORKING ON A ON A ON A
HEARING PROCESS THAT IS ABLE TO.
HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
AND.
CHIEF COUNSEL TALK A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT THE HEARING PROCESS
IN A MINUTE.
.
WERE. MAKING EFFORTS I.
TO TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO
INFORMATION ARE APRIL HEARINGS
IN SACRAMENTO WILL BE WEBCAST
FOR THE FIRST TIME. WE HAVE
OPINIONS THAT WERE FIRST POSTED
LAST WEEK ON OUR WEBSITE.
TRANSCRIPTS OF ALL THE HEARINGS
WILL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE IMPROVING
OUR FAQS IN THE WEBSITE AS WELL
TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO
TAXPAYERS.
JUST A FEW EXAMPLES ON THE LEFT
SIDE OF YOUR FOLDER THERE'S A
JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF. A
OUTREACH MATERIALS THAT WE
DEVELOPED WE DON'T HAVE A FULL
BLOWN OUT OF REACH PLAN RIGHT
NOW IT'S STILL UNDER
DEVELOPMENT.
ANNA AND WE'RE GONNA BE HIRING
A COMMUNICATIONS DEPUTY TO SORT
OF.
TO TO SPEARHEAD THAT THE VERY
NEAR FUTURE.
IN TERMS OF OTHER OUTREACH
WE'VE BEEN.
BOTH CHIEF COUNSEL MYSELF TO
HAVE GONE THE BAR ASSOCIATIONS.
CALIFORNIA TAX POLICY
CONFERENCE
WE WENT TO THE CAL TAX ANNUAL
CONFERENCE THIS YEAR.
AND WILL BE REACHING OUT TO
OTHER INDUSTRY GROUPS AS WELL.
AND I'D LIKE TO ASK THEORY OF
GRADY THE CHIEF DEPUTY TALK A
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SORT OF
THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE PUT
INTO PACE.
SINCE WE STARTED THE OFFICE.
FEDERAL OFFICES IN THE STATUS OF
THE OFFICES WE HAVE THREE THAT
COME UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE
OFFICE OF TAX APPEALS ONE BEING
SACRAMENTO. ON IT IS UP AND
RUNNING AND WE HAVE A HEARING
ROOM THAT WE USE.
AS WE BORROWED IT FROM THE.
VICTIMS COMPENSATION BOARD.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL
BUILD OUT IT'S STILL NEEDED ARE
SACRAMENTO FACILITY FOR TRYING
TO GET ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ON
ONE FLOOR WE EXPECT TO HAVE TO
NEW. HEARING OFFICES AT THAT
LOCATION
AND WE'RE EXPECTING THAT BUILD
OUT SHOULD BE COMPLETED SOMETIME
THIS FALL.
WE'RE ALSO PLEASED TO NOTE THAT
ARE FRESNO LOCATION HAS BEEN
SECURED POLICEMEN SIGNED.
AND WE HAVE SOME AND STAFF SPACE
THAT WILL HAVE.
HEARING ROOM CAPACITY THERE AND
SO MAYBE ABOUT CREE OFFICE FOR
HOTEL.
WE DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE STAFF
BEER WE DO.
PLANTAE USE THE STAFF IT'S
LOCATED HERE IN SACRAMENTO TO
TRAVEL TO THE PRESENT LOCATION
IS NEEDED.
AND THEN ALSO PER THE LOS
ANGELES LOCATION WE HAVE A
TEMPORARY SPACE THE LEASE.
HIS BEEN SIGNED THERE AND WE
ARE.
LOOKING TO OCCUPY THAT IS SOON
AS WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE DETAILS
WORKED OUT.
I WE'RE ALSO WORKING VERY
CLOSELY WITH DG ES ON A
PERMANENT LOCATION FOR WILL SEX
LOS ANGELES OFFICE.
AND WE'RE LOOKING CLOSELY AT.
REALLY LOOKING FOR SPACE THAT'S.
AYE ACCESSIBLE AND.
AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN HAVE ALL
OF OUR HEARING ROOM.
NEEDS MET THERE AS WELL.
REGARDING OUR HIRING AND
STAFFING WE HAVE EIGHTY
AUTHORIZED POSITIONS.
EIGHT POSITIONS WERE TRANSFERRED
FROM THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
TWENTY FOUR TRANSFERRED FROM THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT TAXES BE
ADMINISTRATION. AND WE ARE
AUTHORIZED FOR FORTY EIGHT NEW
POSITIONS.
UP TO FORTY EIGHT POSITIONS SIX
ARE EXEMPT INCLUDING THE
DIRECTOR.
THE CHIEF DEPUTY THE CHIEF
COUNSEL.
LEGISLATIVE DEPUTY
COMMUNICATIONS DEPUTY AND
ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
THE SALARIES WERE DETERMINED BY
PRIOR TO BE INDIAN CD TFA
SALARIES AND REQUIREMENTS FOR
THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGES
AND ACCEPT POSITIONS WERE SET BY
THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
AS OF MARCH.
ON TWENTY THIRD.
ABOUT FIFTY FIVE POSITIONS WE
HAVE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE
THAN THAT NOW HAVE BEEN FILLED.
OUR GOAL IS TO COMPLETELY FILL
ALL OVER AUTHORIZED POSITIONS BY
JUNE THIRTIETH.
SOME OF THE KEY POSITIONS ARE
STILL.
UNFILLED THIS MARKET POINTED
OUT ON IS OUR COMMUNICATIONS
DEPUTY AND.
AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT
POSITION AS WELL.
REGARDING OUR POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES BUT FOR OVERALL
GOVERNANCE OF THE AGENCY WERE
WORKING VERY HARD RIGHT NOW TO.
ENSURE THAT ALL OVER OFFICE OF
TAX APPEALS ADMINISTRATIVE
PROCEDURAL FISCAL.
POLITICS ARE DEVELOPED
COMMUNICATED AND SET IN PLACE
THAT'S ONGOING RIGHT NOW.
AND AS FAR AS OUR OFFICE BUDGET.
FOR THE CURRENT YEAR THE OFFICE
OF TAX APPEALS IS OPERATING WITH
AN ESTABLISHED. RESOURCES.
UNDERSTOOD BUDGET.
WERE WITHIN OUR FIVE MILLION
DOLLAR ALLOCATION.
ON THAT WAS SET FORTH IN AB ONE
OF TWO AND A TWO POINT TWO
MILLION DOLLAR APPROPRIATION.
OUR TRANSFER FROM BE OF THE NCD
TFA.
FOR THE BUDGET YEAR. WE'RE
OPERATING UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF
ABOUT NINETEEN POINT NINE
MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT WILL BE SPLIT.
.
ELEVEN POINT FIVE MILLION FOR
PERSONNEL COSTS.
AND EIGHT POINT FOUR MILLION FOR
A WEENIE.
APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER
THREE MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT
IS.
ONETIME PLUS ONGOING COSTS AND
WE'RE EXPECTING THAT COLUMN.
GOOD PORTION OF OUR.
ANY WILL BE SPENT ON FACILITIES.
RELATED ITEMS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON INTERNET OVER
TO KRISTIN ARCHIE COUNCIL.
ALRIGHT SO I'M HERE TODAY TO
GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT
OUR HEARINGS AND THE ESTABLISH
WORKLOAD THAT WE HAVE PUT IN
PLACE SO FAR. I'VE TODAY THOUGH
TIAS HAD HEARINGS EVERY MONTH
SINCE IT OPENED IN JANUARY THE
JANUARY AND FEBRUARY HEARINGS
WERE BOTH HELD IN SACRAMENTO AS.
VARIOUS STATE IN OUR BORROWED
FACILITIES TIMELY AIR APPRECIATE
THE VICTIMS COMPENSATION FOR
HOSTING US.
WE HAD LA HEARINGS LAST MONTH
AND THIS MONTH WILL HAVE
HEARINGS ON BOTH LA AND
SACRAMENTO.
AGENDAS FOR THE HEARINGS ARE
POSTED ONLINE TEN DAYS PRIOR TO
THE SET OF THE SCHEDULED HEARING
AND TRANSCRIPTS ARE POSTED AS
SOON AS WE CAN AFTER THE
HEARINGS ARE COMPLETE. WE'VE
ALREADY POSTED THE COMPLETED
TRANSCRIPTS FOR THE JANUARY
HEARINGS ON LINE.
AS MARK MENTIONED IN APRIL WILL
BE LIVE WEBCASTING FROM OUR
SACRAMENTO LOCATION AND WE HOPE
TO LIVE WEBCASTING FROM LA AS
SOON AS OUR FACILITIES ARE
ESTABLISED.
WITH REGARDS TO OUR PROCESS AND
WE STRIVE TO USE THE LEAST
FORMAL MEANS PROCESS TO
ADMINISTER OUR HEARINGS WE HAVE
AN ON THAT'S PERSON THAT CAN
HELP TAXPAYERS UNDERSTAND THE
PROCESS AHEAD OF TIME.
AND WE'VE DEVELOPED THE SHORT
ONE PAGE PAMPHLET THAT YOU'VE
SEEN AREN'T IN YOUR PACKET AND
THAT AND TEMPLATE IS AVAILABLE.
IN ENGLISH SPANISH IN MANDARIN
CURRENTLY.
TIME TO EXPLAIN EXPLAIN OUR
PROCESS FOR GETTING CASE THROUGH
HEARING.
DO AT A DECISION WE'VE ALSO
PROVIDED A WORK FLOW PROCESS FOR
YOU IN THERE AND I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE OVERALL
ON POINT I WILL GIVE YOU ON THAT
AS WE CAN GET A CASE FROM INTAKE
TO DETERMINATION WITHIN TWO
HUNDRED SEVENTY DAYS.
WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT
SHORTENING UP UP TIME FROM FROM
THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
OUR PROCESS AND PROCEDURES ARE
MORE FULLY DEVELOPED IN
EXPLAINED IN OUR REGULATIONS AND
OUR CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER
EMERGENCY REGULATIONS THAT WERE
PUT INTO PLACE EFFECTIVE JANUARY
FIRST OF THIS YEAR. LAST WEEK WE
POSTED OUR DRAFT PERMANENT
REGULATIONS TO OUR WEBSITE AND
WILL BE HAVING AN INTERESTED
PARTIES NEEDING. TO HAVE PUBLIC
INPUT ON THOSE THIS COMING
MONDAY AND WILL HAVE ANOTHER ONE
HIGH IN LATE MAY EARLY JUNE JUST
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
APPROPRIATE TAX COMMUNITY INPUT.
FOR THOSE REGULATIONS.
WHEN THE OTHER GRAPHICS THAT YOU
HAVE PROVIDED TO YOU IS A
BREAKDOWN OF OUR CASELOAD. AS
YOU CAN SEE OTA IS CURRENTLY
HANDLING OVER TWELVE HUNDRED
ACTIVE CASES. AND IS FINALIZED
HERS IN THE PROCESS OF
FINALIZING TWO HUNDRED MORE.
AND THAT SORT OF THEIR LIFE FOR
THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
THOSE FOURTEEN HUNDRED CASES IS
ROUGHLY ON PAR WITH WHAT THE
BOARD OF EQUALIZATION HANDLED IN
THE YEAR AND OTA DOES NOT
EXPECT.
A LARGE DROP OFF OR INCREASE IN
CASELOAD.
SINCE OCTOBER WE'VE NOTED THAT
THERE BEEN APPROXIMATELY A
HUNDRED AND TWENTY CASES PER
MONTH THAT WE INTAKE AND WE
EXPECT THAT TO REMAIN RELATIVELY
STABLE.
THE TWELVE HUNDRED ACTIVE
APPEALS TO NOT INCLUDE AN
ACCUMULATION OF CASES THAT OCCUR
DUE TO THE TRANSITION OF
AUTHORITY FROM BE A LEAD TO OTA.
THE OTA TEAM IDENTIFIED FOUR
HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE FRANCHISE
IN INCOME TAX CASES. THAT NEED
SPECIAL PROCESSING DUE TO THE
TRANSITION.
HANDLING THESE CASES IS A
PRIORITY FOR OTA AND THUS FAR WE
HAVE MOVED HUNDRED EIGHTY OF
THOSE CASES INTO OUR NORMAL WORK
FLOW. LEAVING TWO HUNDRED AND
EIGHTY NINE TO GO.
THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO PROCESS
THIRTY TO THIRTY FIVE. OF THOSE
APPEALS INTO NORMAL WORK FLOW
PER WEEK.
TO PROCESS MORE THAN THAT WOULD
ACTUALLY INUNDATE FRANCHISE TAX
BOARD AND CREATE WORK FLOW
PROBLEMS FOR US DOWN THE LINE.
SO WE'RE LIMITING OURSELVES TO
THAT THIRTY TO THIRTY FIVE PER
WEEK.
THE MAJORITY OF OUR CASES AS YOU
KNOW ARE IN THE STATUS OF THREE
THINGS THAT SHOULD BE THE MOST
UBIQUITOUS STATUS AT OTA AS
THAT'S WERE PARTIES HAVE THE
CHANCE TO FLESH OUT THEIR
ARGUMENTS. THERE'S BACK AND
FORTH BETWEEN THE TAXPAYERS THAT
YOU SEE IN YOUR WORK FLOW. ON
AND EACH PARTY HAS THE
OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND IN
WRITING WITH THE TAXPAYER HAVING
THE LAST OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT
ANY POINT IN TIME.
AND FOR MORE DETAIL WE BROKE
DOWN THE BRIEFING STATUS INTO
ITS. TORIES IN THE HANDOUTS YOU
HAVE AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE
ABOUT ANY OF THAT AND.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THEM.
CAME OUT DURING.
IS BROUGHT OUT DURING LAST
YEAR'S REORGANIZATION EFFORT HAD
TO DO WITH THE.
ABILITY OF CERTIFIED PUBLIC
ACCOUNTANTS TO PRACTICE.
IN FRONT OF THE OFFICE.
VIS A VIS ATTORNEYS IN.
I ASSUME THAT ISSUE WAS RESOLVED
IN THERE BEEN NO FURTHER ISSUES
AROUND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT IS POSSIBLE OVER GOING
TO SET IN PLACE A PROCESS
WHEREBY.
CPA'S CAN ASK FOR A CLOSE
HEARING.
IF.
IN FACT HAVING AN OPEN HEARING
MIGHT JEOPARDIZE THEIR
REPRESENTATION IN THE IN THE OF
ON IT'S SIDE HADN'T COME UP YET
I GUESS IT HAS COME UP.
TO COME UP ONCE WE HAD A
REQUEST FOR A CLOSE HEARING
HOWEVER IT WAS NOT DUE TO THE
CPA ISSUE IT WAS ON ANOTHER.
AVENGERS CURIOUS ON THAT
REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE THAT ANY
PERSON OVER THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN
CAN REPRESENT ANY TAXPAYER AT
OTA REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT
THEY REQUIRE A CLOSE.
GOOD. AND THEN JUST ONE FINAL
COMMENT YOU PROBABLY HEARD MY
CONVERSATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT
ABOUT.
BICU REMEMBER OUT REACH.
IT'S APPARENT THAT THE BOARD OF
THE POSITION MEMBERS ARE GOING
TO CONTINUE SOME OUTREACH
EFFORTS AND.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT UNEXPECTED
GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY DO HAVE
CONSTITUENTS AND. AS THOSE OCCUR
AND AS THE DEPARTMENT OF TAX AND
FEE ADMINISTRATION.
.
THE PAGE OCCASIONALLY AS I HAVE
ASKED THEM TO DO.
I GUESS MAYBE THAT THE OFFICE OF
AGREE TO PARTICIPATE TO HAVE
BECAUSE OF COURSE YOUR
PROCEDURES ARE GOING TO BE A
LITTLE FOREIGN.
IT TO MANY AT THIS POINT IN IT
MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU
TO REACH PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD
NOT OTHERWISE SEVEN OPPORTUNITY.
WE WILL WE WILL BE WORKING ON AT
REACH.
.
EFFORT.
I WOULD JUST ADD THIS THAT WE
WE WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT.
.
WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT A TAX AGENCY
OR AN APPEALS BODY.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE NOT SOMEHOW SEEN.
AS AT TAXATION SAVE SO IN TERMS
OF OF WHETHER IT'S AN ACTUALITY
OR IMPRESSION SO. WE CERTAINLY
WANT TO BE ABLE TO REACH
TAXPAYERS WE WANT TO DO IN A
CONTEXT WHERE. THERE'S
APPRECIATION FOR THE
INDEPENDENCE OF THE OFFICE MAYBE
THAT'S JUST GIVING YOUR MAKING
SURE YOUR LITERATURE IS
AVAILABLE SO YOU'RE NOT OUT OF.
ON THE STUMP YEAH EXACTLY OKAY
PERVERT OR CERTAINLY MAKE THAT
OBSERVATION.
YOU CAN HANG HIM.
I LEARNED EVERYTHING FROM HIM.
WELL I ACTUALLY HAD A VERY
IMPORTANT QUESTION MARKETS I SEE
YOU ARE. I WAS THERE AN
IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT IF YOU
WERE ON THE SIDE OF THAT THE DAY
AS WE FAILED TO ASK.
PLEASE DRAFTED.
IF THAT'S A SERIOUS QUESTION
I'LL RESPOND ABOUT IT I THINK
YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE AND IT'S AN
ONGOING CHALLENGE.
IS TOO IT'S A NEW OFFICE AND
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT I THINK
TO.
ESTABLISH A CULTURE OF.
THE OFFICE I'M AND BY THAT TIME
AND WHAT WE'RE STRUGGLING FOR
NOT STRUGGLING WATER CHALLENGES
TO ESTABLISH SOMETHING THAT I
THINK IS.
IS COLLEGIAL AND PROFESSIONAL.
AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE WE HAVE
DEDICATED.
EMPLOYEES THAT WERE FORMERLY
WITH CTT FAA'S SOMEONE PARTICLES
HAITIANS SOME BRAND NEW.
I'M FROM THE LEGISLATURE.
THEY'RE COMING TOGETHER AND WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
THEY THEY THEY COME TOGETHER IN
A WAY THAT IS VERY. PRODUCTIVE
FOR THE OFFICE AND AND MAKE
SENATE.
A GOOD PLACE TO WORK AND A GOOD.
OFFICE FOR THE CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS.
THE THANK YOU FOR ASKING
ANSWERING A VERY IMPORTANT
QUESTION. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN
DO BETTER ON THIS IN ASKING
BETTER QUESTIONS TO ONLINE BUT
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
THEY'RE ALL OF YOU AND FOR THE
IMPORTANT WORK THAT YOU JUST.
AND LET US KNOW WHAT WHAT YOU
NEED I MEAN I ASSUME THAT'S A
VERY GOOD POINT I ASSUME THAT
THERE'S.
THAT YOU'VE NOT EXPERIENCED ANY.
.
ANY ACTION THAT WOULD TEND
INTERFERE WITH YOUR INDEPENDENCE
IS AN OFFICE OF TAX APPEALS.
NOT THAT I'M NOT THAT I'M AWARE
OF AND THAT YOU HAVE ALL RECEIVE
RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED TO.
ESTABLISHED VERY IMPORTANT
FUNCTION.
TO MAKE SURE IT SUCCEEDS I THINK
WHERE WE'RE GOING TO FIND EGARD
AS WELL PERFECT.
I ASSUME FINANCING ELLIOTT NO
COMMENT ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THE OVERVIEW OF THE OFFICE OF
TAX APPEALS.
LOOK AT THAT YOU HAVE SATISFIED
CUSTOMERS.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE YEAH INTO EACH.
WE TO EASE
WE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS SEVEN SEVEN
THREE ZERO FRANCHISE TAX BOARD
WE HAVE A SERIES OF SIX ISSUES
STARTING WITH THE EARNED INCOME
TAX
CREDIT.
ISSUE ONE.
VERY POPULAR ISSUE HERE.
MA'AM IF YOU DO THAT RE IDENTIFY
YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
COMMISERATE THANKS FOR JOINING
US.
NUMBER AND WHETHER FORD THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S
ALTERNATIVE FOR THANK YOU FOR
COMING BACK FOR MORE.
OKAY THEM.
WELL.
YOU.
SEVEN.
WE'VE HAD ONE MILLION EIGHTEEN
THOUSAND HUNDRED THOUSAND
RETURNS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED
APPROXIMATELY.
FOR TOTAL IMPACT TO THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA FOR TWO HUNDRED FIFTY
ONE THOUSAND MUCH NEEDED REVENUE
INTO THE POCKETS OF.
THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF
TAXPAYERS ACROSS THE STATE.
THERE'S ALSO AN INTEREST AND
UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACTS
ASSOCIATED WITH A BALANCE OF
SELF EMPLOYED INCOME.
REPORTED MUCH RESULT OF THIS
CREDIT SO OF THOSE NUMBERS ABOUT
TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND
OF THOSE RETURNS. FOR REVENUE OF
ABOUT SIXTY MILLION IS
ASSOCIATED WITH INCOME. TAX
RETURNS BEING FILED BECAUSE OF
THE FACT THAT SELF EMPLOYMENT IS
NOW ALLOWED CRITERIA UNDER THE
EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT.
SO.
COUPLE POINTS THAT MAYBE RAY
RELEVANT TO THIS CONVERSATIONS
DAY WE CONTINUE TO SEE. THAT THE
MAJORITY OF THESE FILERS THAT
ARE ACTUALLY FILING ARE NOT NEW
TO OUR SYSTEMS
TEN PERCENT OR LESS THAN TEN
PERCENT OF THE FILERS THAT I
MENTIONED THE ONE MILLION
EIGHTEEN HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THEY HAVE ACTUALLY FILED WITH US
IN THE PREVIOUS FIVE YEARS AND
MOST OFTEN IN THE LAST YEAR AS
WELL.
IMPORTANT TO ALSO NOTE BECAUSE
EDUCATION OUTREACH IS GOING TO
BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION IS THE
BLUNT.
EIGHTY FOUR PERCENT OF THOSE
INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE FILED FOR
THE CREDIT THIS YEAR OUR FIRST
TIME CLAIMANTS.
SO ONLY SIXTEEN PERCENT OF THOSE
FILING THIS YEAR ALSO CLAIM THE
CREDIT. IN A PRIOR YEAR.
WE'VE SEEN NOT YEAR OVER YEAR.
AS THE VAST MAJORITY LAST YEAR
SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE
TOTAL INDIVIDUALS THAT CLAIM THE
CREDIT HAD NEVER CLAIMED WHEN
THE YEAR BEFORE.
SO THERE IS NOT CONTINUES TO BE
A SIGNIFICANT TURNOVER. OF
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE
FOR THIS CREDIT.
PUBLICLY MOST LIKELY AND I
BELIEVE THIS IS ALSO MENTIONED
IN THE LA A REPORT. DUE T THE
LOW INCOME LEVELS THIS CUT IT IS
APPLICABLE TOWARDS.
WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE
FEDERAL CREDIT WHICH ACTUALLY
THE INCOME LEVELS ARE MUCH MUCH
HIGHER AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL SO
THERE'S CONSISTENCY. OFTENTIMES
YEAR OVER YEAR FOR THE FEDERAL
CREDIT BUT WE DO NOT SEE THAT IN
THE CALIFORNIA CREDIT.
AND THAT WOULD BE AN ARGUMENT TO
SUGGEST THAT EDUCATION NOT REACH
HEARINGS VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN REACH.
THESE NEW INDIVIDUAL FILERS
EVERY YEAR TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE
AWARE THAT THAT ELIGIBLE FOR
THE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT.
ALSO OF INTEREST AND HIGHER
DISCUSSIONS THIS YEAR IS WHOSE
FILING A RETURN THAT.
FILED BY A PREPARE IF THEY
LIKELY PAID FOR VERSUS
ELECTRONIC FILER VERSUS SOMEBODY
FINALLY WITH THEIR PROPS
THEMSELVES.
DISTRICTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE
TO GATHER.
TWO PERCENT OF THE RETURNS
COMING IN THIS YEAR. ARE FILED
UNDER A P. PREPARE SIGNATURE.
SO THE REMAINDER FORTY PERCENT.
IS COMING IN IN ONE OF THREE
WAYS EITHER ITS PAPER BUT NOT A
LARGE UNIVERSE.
FOR ITS COMING IN BECAUSE THE
TAXPAYER HAS PURCHASED SOFTWARE
OFF THE SHELF. OR HAS GONE
ONLINE TO A FILING SERVICE THAT
ALLOWS THEM TO WALK THROUGH THE
FILING OF A RETURN. ON GENERALLY
THE FEES FOR THAT SOFTWARE OR
THAT SERVICE OR ANYWHERE FROM
TWENTY TO SEVENTY DOLLARS.
SO WE DO FIND OVER THE LAST TWO
YEARS WE HAVE NOT TALKED THE
STE.
THIS YEAR BUT OVER THE LAST TWO
YEARS OVER NINETY FIVE PERCENT
OF THESE RETURNS EINFACH
ELECTRONICALLY FILED.
SO THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY FOR
TAXPAYERS AND FOR US SO WE'RE
HAPPY TO SEE THAT VERY LARGE
STOCKS OF VERY FEW COMIN
ACTUALLY ON PAPER.
SO IN SOME WAY THAT TAXPAYERS
THAT ARE CLAIMING THESE CREDITS
ARE IN FACT USING SOME SORT OF
SOFTWARE OR GOING INTO A PAPER
PARA TO DO THAT RETURN.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON STOP A FIGHT
UP AND TO EDUCATION OUTREACH.
CAN YOU.
FRAUD WAS A CONVERSATION THAT WE
HAD
SEVERAL YEARS IN A ROW HAVING TO
DO WITH THE SELF EMPLOYED.
HAVE YOU SEEN ANY SIGNIFICANT
INCIDENT OF INCIDENTS OF FRAUD
OR ANY CONCERN IN THAT REGARD
WITH RESPECT TO THE SELF
EMPLOYED PIECE.
EARNED INCOME TAX.
YES SIR GOOD CREDIT GOOD
QUESTIONS SO AT THIS POINT WE
HAVE ABOUT NINETY TWO THOUSAND
RETURNS THAT ARE.
SET ASIDE FROM OUR PROCESS
SEEMED TO LOOK AT MORE CLOSELY
WITH THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE AN
IMPROPER PAYMENT ASSOCIATED WITH
THEM OR OTHER WAYS OFTENTIMES
REFERRED TO AS POTENTIAL FRAUD.
SO I OF THOSE NINETY TWO
THOUSAND BY HALF OF THOSE ARE
SITUATED WITH SELF EMPLOYMENT
INCOME.
THE TOTAL VALUE OF ALL THOSE.
NINETY TWO THOUSAND IS ABOUT
SEVENTY MILLION.
SO THOSE WHO TAKE US ABOUT FOUR
TO SIX WEEKS TO FINISH PACKING
THREE OF THEM. IN THE EVENT THAT
WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE
TAXPAYER WITH ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS THAT LINK WILL EXTEND.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT DOES TAKE
AWHILE FOR THE TAXPAYER TO
RESPOND BACK TO US MAGIC NINETY
SIX MILLION.
AMAZON NINETY TWO THOUSAND
RETURNS FOR SEVENTY MILLION
SEVENTY MILLION APOLOGIZE.
AND ROUGHLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE
STOCKS IT SAFE TO SAY ABOUT HALF
OF BOTH OF THOSE UNIVERSES ARE
ASSOCIATED WITH SELF EMPLOYMENT.
THANK YOU.
LATELY.
ANY OTHER QUICK ANY QUESTIONS ON
THIS PARTICULAR SEGMENT CENTER
WORKS IN ENGLISH.
THANK YOU.
INTO AN.
ALL RIGHTS OF THE VERY QUICKLY
INTO EDUCATION OUTREACH.
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD CONTINUES
TO DO THEIR OWN EDUCATION AND
OUTREACH EFFORTS AS WELL AS
PARTNER WITH MANY MANY PARTNERS.
I'M IN THE GRANT FUNDING WHICH
IS ALSO A SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION
I BELIEVE TODAY.
WE PARTNER WITH THOSE
INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.
SO THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY
FRANCHISE TALKSPORT HIGHS FOR.
EDUCATION OUTREACH IS THE
PRINTED MATERIALS.
THE VAST WEBSITE MATERIALS OR
WEB READY MATERIALS THAT WE CAN
CREATE FLOOR PARTNERS.
I'M VITA WHERE HEAVY SUPPORTERS
OF VITA AS INDIVIDUALS NEED IT
ON OR INDIVIDUAL I'M
ORGANIZATIONS NEED ASSISTANCE.
TAX FORMS OF COURSE.
WE HIRE.
AND.
WORK WITH A COMPANY THAT HAS A
BUS THAT IS.
HOOKED UP TO ONE INTERNET THAT
WE CAN UTILIZE AND THEY HAVE
WORKSTATIONS WITH AND NOT BUS.
THAT WE CAN TAKE MOBILE Y. FIGHT
A SITE WHICH HAS BEEN VERY
HELPFUL.
AND THEN.
WE'VE ALSO DONE SOME PARTNERING
WITH FOOD BANKS IN SCHOOL
DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE
TO ENSURE THAT INDIVIDUALS THAT
ARE RECIPIENTS OF THOSE FOOD
BASKETS GET INFORMATION ON THIS.
AS WELL AS. CHILDREN THAT ARE IN
SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE VERY
IMPOVERISHED AND OFTENTIMES
ELIGIBLE FOR THIS CREDIT THEY'RE
TAKING HOME INFORMATION TO THEIR
PARENTS.
AS A RESULT OF SCHOOL
CHURCH SHOW THEM THAT THEY ARE
NOT ELIGIBLE OR LIKELY TO BE
ELIGIBLE AND PLEASE TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THE EARNED INCOME
TAX CREDIT.
I'M IN LAST NOT NOT LEAST WE
PROVIDE MATERIALS TO EMPLOYERS
ACROSS THE STATE. AS WELL THE
STATE DEPARTMENT THAT SERVE
PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AS
THEY REQUIRED UNDER STATUTE TO
NOTIFY ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES.
AS WELL AS THE RECIPIENTS OF
THOSE PUBLIC SERVICE PROGRAM SO
WE FACILITATE AS NECESSARY THAT
HAVE WHICH.
PRIMARILY WHAT WE DO AND THEN WE
DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF.
PARTNERING WITH THE STATE.
INTERAGENCY TASK FORCE FOR
REDUCING POVERTY OFTEN CALLED
SET.
AND THEN WE DO A LOT WITH OUR
PARTNERS UNDER THE GRANT FUNDING
THAT WE ADMINISTERED JOINTLY
WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES AND
DEVELOPMENT.
THIS HAS BEEN VERY VERY
IMPORTANT BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
TRUSTED FOLKS THAT THEIR
GOVERNMENT ISN'T ALWAYS THE MOST
TRUSTED MESSAGE FOR ANNA ALBANY
FOR MESSAGE.
BUT IF YOU CAN BRING UP SOME OF
OUR PARTNERS THAT TYPICALLY WE
PARTNER WITH YOU THIS GRANT
FUNDING TO TEACH UNITED WAY.
KOREATOWN LOW EITHER TRUSTED
ENTITIES THERE RIGHT IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WE OFTEN HAVE MUCH
MORE SUCCESS IN GETTING THAT
MESSAGE ACROSS.
WHEN THEY ALSO ON PARTNER
CONFIDED STATES.
EITC CALCULATORS ARE ONLINE FOR
TAXPAYERS TO USE AND UNDERSTAND
THEIR POSSIBLE CREDIT THEY WILL
FILE THEIR RETURN AND SO FORTH.
STEP.
JEFF PACIFIC QUESTION ONE
EDUCATION NOT WRITTEN HAPPY TO.
ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS WELL I'M
NOT SURE THAT THIS QUESTION.
SHOULD GO TO YOU BECAUSE YOU MAY
NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER THIS BUT
I'M. I'M SOME WHAT.
.
FASCINATED BY THE.
IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY
GIVEN THE SUCCESS OF THIS
PROGRAM.
PRIOR BUDGETS WE INCLUDED MONEY
FOR OUTREACH IN THIS BUDGET
THERE'S NO LINE ITEM FOR
ADDITIONAL OUTREACH IN MY
READING IT CORRECTLY.
NOT IS CORRECT FCB HIGHS.
A CERTAIN AMOUNT WITHIN OUR
BUDGET THAT IS ONGOING BUT IN
TERMS OF EITHER ABOVE MONEY
SPECIFICALLY TARGETED TO EITC
OUT REACH AS I'VE DONE IN PRAYER
BUDGETS WERE NOT DOING IT IN
THIS ONE AS PROPOSED IS NOT
INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET YEAR
SPEAKING OF THE TWO MILLION
GRANT FUNDING. RIGHT TO THAT WE
HOP ON IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN
THIS YEAR'S BUDGET OKAY SO.
MAYBE I SHOULD WAIT TILL YOU
FINISH MA'AM AND THEN ARE WE
FINISHED WITH THE ITC FOR YOU
I'M GOOD ONLY OVERHEAD AT THE
FESTIVAL IT'S MOVED TO FINANCE
AND MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS MY
QUESTION ON THE OUT REACH.
SURE SO WE APPEAR TO BE ON
TRACK.
WITH TAX RATE CLAIMS.
SO AS NOTED I HAVE TO BE DID
RECEIVE TWO MILLION AND SIXTEEN
SEVENTEEN TWO MILLION IN THE
CURRENT YEAR.
AND THERE'S ONGOING FUNDING OF
ABOUT NINE HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR
IT TO BE SO.
I AT THIS POINT THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE.
INCREASING AVERAGE BUDGET.
AND IF I GET ON TO SIMPLIFY MY
COLLEAGUES RESPONSIBLE BIT NAM.
ACCORDING TO OUR FISCAL
PROGNOSTICATORS.
LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON PAR TO.
GET CLAIMS FOR ALMOST THE
ENTIRETY OF THE THREE HUNDRED
FORTY MILLION DOLLARS WAS
EARMARKED FOR. THE ITC CLAIMS IN
THE CURRENT YEAR. AND.
THAT NOW I THINK THAT SPEAKS
VOLUMES AS TO THE SUCCESS
THEY'VE HAD WITH THE OUTREACH
AND THAT. THIS ENTIRE AMOUNT IS
GOING TO BE CLAIMS SO I THINK IT
INDICATES IT OUT REACHES OUT A
BIGGER FACT TELLING A FACT AND I
THINK. IT IS SPREAD THE WORD
SUCCESSFULLY IN THE. CULTURAL
COMMUNITY IT'S THE EXISTENCE OF
THIS CREDIT. AND CONSEQUENTLY ON
AT THIS POINT THE ADMINISTRATION
BELIEVES THAT THE AMOUNT IT'S AN
FTP SPACE ON AN ONGOING BASIS
FOR OUTREACH SHOULD BE
SUFFICIENT.
WELL AREN'T YOU CAN START YOUR
CONCERN MEMORIES BEING SHORT
THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE REMINDED
OF.
AS PEOPLE FOR COMMUNITY
COMMANDED OUT CYCLE IN AND OUT
OF THE PROCESS THEY NEED TO BE
REMINDED OF THE.
EITC BENEFIT AND.
IF WE HAD TWO MILLION LAST YEAR
ON TOP OF WHAT WAS IN.
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD BUDGET.
MAYBE WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT
THAT'S AYE THAT'S A RHETORICAL
QUESTION THAT I KNOW YOU NOT
GONNA RESPOND DON'T NEED TO
RESPOND TO LA JOH.
SURE WE HAVE SOME COMMENTS IN
FACT I'M WE PREPARED A HANDOUT
THAT'S BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO TAKE.
ON SOME OF THIS INFORMATION HAS
BEEN.
.
PROVIDED.
BASE YOU NEED THAT I WANTED TO
REITERATE A COUPLE OF POINTS IN
AB OUT A FEW THINGS.
SO ON THE FIRST TWO PAGES OF
THEY HAVE.
MARGISON OVERVIEW BACKGROUND
THAT WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO
TOUCH ON BUT I YOU KNOW I DO
WANT TO RE RE EMPHASIZE. THE
FOURTH BULLET ON PAGE TWO HOME
BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THE ELIGIBLE
FILERS DIDN'T CLAIM THE STATE
YET YOU SEE LAST YEAR AND. WE
LOOKED AT THE IDEA FOR THE FIRST
TWO YEARS OF THE PERMITS WELL.
WE SEE A LOT OF TRANSITION.
IN AND OUT OF ELIGIBILITY FOR
THE OTHER STATE EITC BECAUSE OF
THOSE NARROW INCOME LIMITS.
AND SO IT DOES SUGGEST THAT BOTH
FOR.
NEW FILERS AS WELL AS FOR
EXISTING FILERS WHO MIGHT BE
GOING THROUGH A LIFE TRANSITION
AND CHANGING THEIR INCOME. FROM
ONE YEAR TO ANOTHER THAT THERE
PROBABLY IS AN ON GOING.
.
HOME LACK OF AWARENESS OF THE
STATE EITC ON AN ONGOING BASIS
JUST BECAUSE OF. ON THE INCOME
RANGE OF THE ELIGIBLE FILERS.
AND AND ALSO WHAT WE'RE SEEING
WITH THEM SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND
AND PROBABLY MORE AT THIS POINT.
WHO ARE FILING STATE TAX RETURN
FOR THE FIRST TIME SO?
THAT IS A CONSIDERATION ON FOR
ON GOING YEAH YET YOU SEE
EDUCATION OUTREACH NOW.
AS YOU MENTIONED THERE IS AN
ONGOING ONE MILLION DOLLARS FOR
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD.
FOR.
EITC OUTREACH.
WHICH COMMISSION PAGE THREE.
AND.
AND SO THE YOU KNOW THE LEVEL
OF FUNDING FOR YOU EIGHTY C.
OUTREACH ON WHETHER THAT
INCLUDES THE ADDITIONAL TWO
MILLION DOLLARS FOR GRANTS ON
THIS YEAR IN FUTURE YEARS. IS
CERTAINLY LEGISLATIVE ON
DECISION.
BUT.
I YOU KNOW JEANNIE WENT OVER
THE.
THE ONGOING OUTREACH ACTIVITIES
PRETTY WELL WE WE DISCUSSES ON
PAGE FOUR. OF THE ONE THING I'D
ADD.
IS THAT OF THE FRANCHISE TAX
BOARD.
IN ADDITION TO PRINTING
MATERIALS AND.
PROVIDING EDUCATIONAL.
SUPPORT FOR TAX PREPARERS
PROVIDES FREE ONLINE FILING
SERVICES WITH A CALIFORNIA.
THE STATE TAX RETURN AND THERE'S
OTHER FREE FILING SERVICES
ONLINE FOR FEDERAL TAX RETURNS
TIMES IN ADDITION TO THE PAID.
ONLINE SERVICES THERE ARE FREE
ONLINE SERVICES FOR ELIGIBLE
INDIVIDUALS.
.
TURNING TO PAGE FIVE TERM. AND
ALSO AGREED HERE TENSION WE HAVE
A MAP ON PAGE SIX OF THE.
RECIPIENTS OF THE EDUCATION
OUTREACH GRANTS.
.
THE.
THINK GRANT PROCESS WHICH IS
ADMINISTERED BY.
COMMUNITY.
SERVICES IN DEVELOPMENT.
DOES IT DOES SEEM TO HAVE GONE
VERY WELL.
IN IN THAT APPLICATION PROCESS
AND WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF
THE.
THE THE THE ASPECTS THAT PROCESS
SO WIN WIN THEY'RE APPLYING
GRANTEES PROVIDE DETAILED
NARRATIVES ON THEIR RELEVANT
EXPERIENCE IN REACHING THESE.
THE SQUEEZE COMMUNITY SOME OF
WHICH HAVE CULTURAL LANGUAGE
BARRIERS THAT MAKE THEM
DIFFICULT TO REACH ESPECIALLY
FOR HUNDREDS NATION LIKE
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD OR OTHER
STATE DEPARTMENTS AND SO. AND
HAVING.
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT
HAVE EXPERIENCE PROVIDING OUR
SERVICES TO THIS MUSIC THERE'S
PROBABLY A BENEFIT THAT.
AND.
CST.
REVIEWED THEIR CAPACITY AND
EXPERIENCE.
BEFORE MAKING THESE GRANT
AWARDS.
AND NOW TURNING TO PAGE THE
LAST PAGE OF THE HANDOUT ON PAGE
SEVEN. CST ALSO REQUIRED ALL OF
THE GRANTEES TO COLLECT TO
MEASURE AND COLLECT.
.
MONTHLY STATISTICS ON THE NUMBER
OF INDIVIDUALS THEY REACH
THROUGH EACH OF THESE ACTIVITIES
SO THERE'S.
QUITE A BIT OF DATA. ON THE
NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS REACHED
THREE THESE GRANT PROGRAMS.
WE DO KNOW.
HOWEVER THAT A MANY OF AND I
DON'T WANT TO DWELL ON THIS
NECESSARILY BUT MANY OF THESE
ACTIVITIES ARE ARE ARE FOCUSED
ON HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS REACHED.
AND IT'S DIFFICULT ACTUALLY
MEASURE OF EFFECTIVENESS HOW
MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ACTUALLY
THINK GO AND FILE A TAX RETURN.
AND CLAIM THE STATE EITC SO IF
THERE'S.
WAYS.
TO IMPROVE.
.
YOU KNOW MIGHT IT'S VERY
DIFFICULT TO MEASURE
EFFECTIVENESS BUT IF THERE'S
WAYS TO IMPROVE THAT OUR FOCUS
ON.
ON THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THESE
ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD BE GOOD
AND.
OF ONE FINAL POINT.
SO ONE WAY THAT WE TO KNOW.
IS AFFECTED HIS FREE TAX
PREPARATION
AND SO WE HAVE HEARD CONCERNS
THAT.
THEY'RE.
IN SOME PLACES ARE ISN'T IS NOT
ADEQUATE A FREE TAX PREPARATION
SERVICES ACTUAL PHYSICAL SITES
WERE PROTECT PREPARATIONS
AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE ELIGIBLE
INDIVIDUALS. SO.
POTENTIALLY FOCUSING EFFORTS ON
EXPANDING OF THE CAPACITY AND
AVAILABILITY OF THE SITES MIGHT
BE AN AREA FOR FUTURE.
AND I GUESS THERE'S NO WAY TOO
BECAUSE OF PRIVACY ISSUES ARE.
THE LIKE TO.
COLLECT INFORMATION ABOUT
INDIVIDUALS.
REACHED BY THESE.
GRANTEES.
AND TRANSMIT THAT TO THE
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD SO YOU COULD
MATCH UP RETURN FILING WITH.
INDIVIDUALS I SUPPOSE THAT'S A
PROBLEM BECAUSE.
SOMEBODY'S GONNA THINK THAT IF
THEY DON'T FILED BY THE
GOVERNMENT'S GOING TO COME AFTER
I SUPPOSE I I DON'T KNOW.
YOUR WAY TO DO THAT HOW YOU HAVE
ALL THE INFORMATION.
WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THAT WE HAVE
INFORMATION ON HE THOSE FILERS
LAWLER I'M AND I.
PROBABLY FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING
THAT WE HAVE NOT REALLY LOOKED
AT THIS US BUT.
SO THAT THEIR MUCH ONE OF THE
WAYS TO DO IT IS TO PUT A LITTLE
CHECKBOX ON THE RETURN DID YOU
FILE BECAUSE YOU THAT ATTACKS
OUR PHONE CALLERS ALL SOMETHING
RIGHT BUT. THAT WOULD REQUIRE
I'M QUITE AN EFFORT YOU AND
PARTNER WITH ALL OF OUR SOFTWARE
DEVELOPERS ACROSS THE NATION
ALMOST PUT THAT IN THERE RIGHT
NOW A LOT OF VALUE ADDED YEAH SO
THAT DOESN'T WORK HOWEVER WHAT
ONE THING THAT WE MIGHT. BE ABLE
TO LOOK AT IS IF THERE'S A
WILLINGNESS FROM OUR GRANT
PARTNERS.
SHE PROVIDE US WITH THEMES OF
WHO THEY DID OUTREACH TO THEIR
REACHING OUT TO PHONE NUMBERS
AND THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO.
OTHER REGISTERED USERS OF THEIR
VARIOUS SYSTEMS SO THERE ARE
SOME NAMES BEHIND IT AND IF YOU
PUT A BILLBOARD UP WE'RE NEVER
GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL THAT. I
KNOW YOU KNOW THAT'S.
BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS
THAT WE CAN DO IF THERE IS A
TARGET A LIST OF INDIVIDUALS
LIKE KOREATOWN OR UNITED WAY DID
IF THEY ARE WILLING. TO GIVE US
THAT LIST
THEN THAT THE POSSIBILITY THAT
WE COULD APPLY IT AGAINST OUR
FATHER DATABASE TO SEE IF THERE
IS.
OR WHAT THE CORRELATION WOULD BE
WELL I GUESS I'M ASKING THAT WE
LEAST THINK ABOUT IT I SEE THAT
SOME PROS AND CONS TO THAT. AND
YOU CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO
DISCOURAGE ANYBODY FROM
PARTICIPATING IN THE.
INFORMATION PROCESS AND.
YOU KNOW THE FILING PROCESS BUT.
AS WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THIS
SITUATION WHERE.
NO ON THE ONE SIDE
ADMINISTRATION.
SUGGEST WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE
MONEY DIRECTED OUT REACH BEYOND
WHAT'S IN NORMALLY INCLUDED IN
THE FRANCHISE TAX BOARD BUDGET.
AND THEN THERE ARE OTHERS THAT
SUGGEST WE NEED NOT ONLY THE
MONEY THAT WE DID LAST YEAR BUT
MORE MONEY.
YOU KNOW AT SOME POINT IT WOULD
BE NICE TO HAVE SOME DATA SO WE
CAN ANALYZE THE IMPACT OF MONEY
SPENT.
ON RETURNS ACTUALLY FILED BUT
I'D CERTAINLY NOBODY WANTS TO
SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT AND
YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THERE'S VALUE ADDED IN THE
EFFORT SO. I GUESS I JUST ASK
THAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.
DON'T WE WE JUST OBSERVE THAT IT
YOU KNOW IT IS DIFFICULT TO
ACTUALLY TIE THAT EFFECTIVENESS
AND A LOT OF THE OUT REACH YOU
KNOW IN IN OUR REVIEW OF THE
MATERIALS THAT ARE PROVIDED.
THEY DO DIRECTS.
YOU KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE
HIGHLIGHTING THERE'S A VITA
EVENT THIS THIS SATURDAY I MEAN
THERE ARE DIRECTING PEOPLE TO
FREE TAX PREPARATION SERVICES SO
SOUGHT IN ISOLATION THAT'S WHY
DON'T WANT TO DWELL ON IT BUT
IT.
YOU KNOW IT IS KIND OF YOU KNOW
IF YOU WANNA GET IT WHAT ARE WE
GETTING FOR OUR MONEY THAT'S IT
CAN BE HARD TO MEASURE RIGHT.
.
COLLEAGUES IN QUESTION SIR
GLAZER.
WELL I I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY
THAT I APPRECIATE THE
ADMINISTRATION'S.
.
SUPPORT FOR THE SAP PROGRAM
CERTAINLY I THANK YOU TO THE
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD FOR YOUR
EARNEST ENGAGEMENT TO TRY TO
MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL AND THAT. AND
THE DATA YOU PROVIDED TODAY I
THINK IS VERY INFORMATIVE AND I
THINK IT POINTS OUT. AYE THAT.
.
WE SHOULD BE CONTINUING TO
INVEST IN OUTREACH AND THAT
THERE'S A REAL.
I AM IMPORTANCE THEIR I GIVEN
HOW MANY NEW FOLKS ARE COMING
AND AND I I'D HATE TO LIVE.
YEAH DOT COME BACK A YEAR FROM
NOW AND SEE THE DROP IN THOSE
APPLYING AND SAY. YOU KNOW THAT
THAT REALLY WAS ON US AND THAT'S
THE TEST RIGHT WE DON'T
ADVERTISE IT MORE AND WE SEE
WHETHER THEY.
THOSE THAT FILING FOR IT.
.
AND WHAT THOSE AMOUNTS ARE AND
AND AND WE MAYBE IF LEARN
SOMETHING BUT I DON'T WANT TO
REALLY BE IN THAT POSITION.
TO HAVE.
TAKEN PEOPLE WHO REALLY COULD
USE THE THE MONEY.
AND BECAUSE OF OUR FAILURE TO
INVEST A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS
IN NOT REACHING AND HAVE THAT
RESULT.
SO I THINK MY COLLEAGUES WHO
HAVE SUPPORTED THIS PROGRAM IN
THE PAST I THINK IT'S A VERY
VERY BY INVALUABLE ONE FOR.
HELP WITH WORKING POOR AND I
WOULD BE OPEN TO. US ANY
CONSTRUCTIVE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT
HOW WE COULD DO EVEN BETTER.
AND.
I JUST APPRECIATE HOW GOD
REPORT THIS PROGRAM THIS.
WE'LL ARE IS SAY I INTEND TO
AGENDA THIS WERE GOING TO CLOSE
OUT BUDGET SUB COMMITTEES MY
UNDERSTANDING IS SOMETIME THE
WEEK OF.
MAY SEVENTEENTH EMINA FIGURE OUT
HOW TO RE AGENDA THIS AS AN
ACTION ITEM.
TO GIVE MY COLLEAGUES AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE WHETHER OR
NOT TO.
.
AND MOVE FORWARD A PROPOSAL TO
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR.
REACH ACTIVITY
TODAY IT'S AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM
WHICH RESTRICTS WHAT WE CAN DO.
.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT THERE IS
THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE
EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT ITEM.
HERE WE GO.
COME ON DOWN.
GOOD AFTERNOON OR MAYBE IT'S A
WARNING OF MICHELLE STILL
PREVENTS HE CHILDREN'S DEFENSE
FUND CALIFORNIA I WANT TO THINK
THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE ESPECIALLY
FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP LAST YEAR ON
MAKING SURE THE SELF EMPLOYED
WERE. INCLUDED.
IN THE CREDIT A I'M HERE
REPRESENTING A THIRTY
ORGANIZATIONS WERE PART OF OUR
CALLIE IDC ADVOCACY COALITION.
AND IT REALLY STRONGLY SUPPORT
I ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR
OUTREACH AND FREE TAX
PREPARATION SERVICES AND MY MY
COLLEAGUE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT THAT. I'M BUT I ALSO
WANT TO RAISE ANOTHER ITEM THAT
WAS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA ON
THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING
FORWARD AS A COALITION THIS.
THIS YEAR AND ARE PUSHING
FORWARD.
FOR EXTENDING ELIGIBILITY.
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CREDIT
ACTUALLY REACHES ALL LOW
CALIFORNIANS WERE FILING TAXES A
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'M OUR
ELIGIBILITY IS BASED ON THE
FEDERAL EITC ELIGIBILITY AND
THERE ARE ON THREE POPULATIONS.
OF LOW INCOME OF CALIFORNIANS
WHO ARE FILING PAYING IN FILING
THEIR TAXES WHO ARE LEFT OUT. ON
SO YOUNG ADULTS WHO ARE UNDER
THE AGE OF TWENTY FIVE AYE AND
WE KNOW THAT THAT AGE GROUP.
EXPERIENCES POVERTY AT A HIGHER
RATE THAN ANY OTHER ADULT EACH
GROUP.
AND THESE ARE PEOPLE JUST
STARTING OUT IN THEIR CAREERS
FORMER FOSTER USE STRUGGLING
STUDENTS.
AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE
CAN'T INCLUDE AGAIN A LOT OF
THE.
LOW INCOME SENIORS ARE
CONTINUING TO WORK THAT A
FINANCIAL.
A NECESSITY AND RIGHT NOW THE.
MAXIMUM SO SECURITY A.
PAYMENTS DOESN'T COME UNTIL AGE
SEVENTY AS A RETHINK IS ANOTHER
GROUP.
THAT WE SHOULD BE INCLUDING IN
OUR CALIFORNIA EITC A AND THEN
FINALLY I'M IMMIGRANT.
FAMILIES WERE FILING WITH AN
INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYER
IDENTIFICATION NUMBER.
ARE EXCLUDED.
FROM OUR CALIFORNIA E. ATC BUT.
GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW.
ABOUT AND THE POWER OF THE
EIGHTY SI ON THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT WE CAN DO IN CALIFORNIA TO
CREATE A MORE EQUITABLE AND
INCLUSIVE.
CREDIT ON MEN PARTICULARLY
GIVEN ON SOME OF THE POLICIES
ARE HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL INCLUDING THE.
FEDERAL TAX.
TAX BILL WHICH ELIMINATED OUR
TOOK AWAY THE CHILD TAX CREDIT
FOR MORE THAN A MILLION.
FAMILIES.
IMMIGRANT FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY
LACK SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS
FAMILIES WHO ARE ELIGIBLE.
FOR THIS CREDIT A LOT OF LOW
INCOME FAMILIES ARE STRUGGLING
ON TO MAKE ENDS MEET AND WE NEED
TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING
SURE THEY'RE ABLE TO BENEFIT
FROM THE SCRATCH. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
I THINK.
JETER NOW WITH YOU KNOW WITH
THE CALIFORNIA NIGHT I TOOK SOME
NOTES WHILE YOU WERE TALKING AND
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS
THAT WERE MADE HERE IN THE
QUESTIONS ARE MADE HERE TODAY.
IT WE ARE WE ARE YOU KNOW IT'S
A CALIFORNIA AND SEVERAL OTHER
LOCAL UNITED WAYS ARE CURRENTLY
GRANT HOUSTON THE OUT REACH
FRANCE AND. WE REALLY APPRECIATE
WORKING WITH FTP AND CST.
THEY'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL
OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
PROVIDING MATERIALS AND JUST.
STAFF IS GREAT TO WORK WITH.
SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT
OUT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
DATA TRYING TO DO IT TO MAKE
THAT DATA CONNECTION BETWEEN
WHAT THE OUTREACH AND THEN WHAT
THE UPTAKE.
IS A HUGE CONCERN OF OURS TO
USE A PART OF OUR PROPOSAL IS
ACTUALLY TO PUT IN SOME A LITTLE
BIT OF MONEY NOT ALIVE LIBITUM
MONEY. GET ABOUT UNIVERSITY WE
KNOW SOME UNIVERSITIES THAT
MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO DO SOME
OF THAT RESEARCH SOME PILOTS AND
FIGURE OUT BECAUSE.
WE CAN'T DRAW A STRAIGHT LINE
FROM THE OUTREACH WE DO.
TO THE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
SIGNED UP THE BITE OF FLIGHTS
AND WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE
TO DO THAT MORE.
BETTER SORT OVERALL GOAL IS TO
GET AS MUCH OF THAT CALLIE ATC
INTO THE HANDS OF THE WORKING
HOUSEHOLDS AS POSSIBLE. AND WE
REALLY DO BECAUSE OF CHURN
BECAUSE OF OTHER FACTORS DO FEEL
THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR ONGOING.
GO OUTREACH AND EDUCATION AND
WHO WANT TO LEAVE MAKE SURE THAT
WE REACH NOT ONLY THE HIGH
DENSITY COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT
ARE CURRENTLY TARGET IN THE
OUTREACH. BUT ALSO WE HAVE KELLY
A FEW POTENTIAL RECIPIENTS.
PROSTATE AND IN THE RURAL AREAS
PARTICULARLY IT'S.
VERY HARD FOR THEM TO LEARN
ABOUT IT AND GET
FREE TAX.
SO WE WANTED TO CONTINUE THAT
OUTREACH WE ALSO WANT TO EXPAND
AND PROMOTE THE AVAILABILITY OF
THE FREE TAX THAT THERE.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE.
ELIGIBLE FOR CALLIE APC DO NOT
HAVE TO FILE THEIR TAXES ARE
BELOW THE INCOME ELIGIBILITY
LEVEL AND I THINK WE CAN'T
STRESS THAT ENOUGH.
THEY ALSO AS A SET TURN ON AND
OFF SO YOU REALLY GOT OF REACH
THEM TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO
REMIND THEM.
TO DO IT WE HAVE SOME SYSTEMS
WE HAVE TEXT MESSAGING AND SOME
SYSTEMS WHERE ONCE THEY COMMON
FILE THEIR TAXES THAT THE FIGHT
A SITE WE CAN HOPEFULLY REACH
OUT TO THEM NEXT YEAR REMIND
THEM THAT IT'S COMING UP AGAIN.
AND BUT I ALSO UNDERLINED
PEOPLE THAT BECAUSE OF THE
RECENT FEDERAL TAX LAW. THAT
FEWER FAMILIES ARE GONNA BE
REQUIRED TO FILE THEIR PERSONAL
INCOME TAX
A FEDERAL LEVEL.
SO SOME OF THOSE THAT OUR FOR
HAVE TO FILE NOW. ARE NOT GOING
TO HAVE TO FILE AND THAT'S BEEN
EVENLOWERED THE UPTAKE WE THINK.
SOBRE BONTA CONSIDER THAT.
OF SO REGARDING THE FREE TAX
PREP JUST A FEW THINGS THERE.
MANY PEOPLE DO NEED AND WANT
THEIR TAXES FILED.
WE HEARD THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM
MILLION CLAIMS WE KNOW THAT AS
OF MARCH NINETEENTH THE HUNDRED
AND SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND ACCESS
BY TO SITES.
ACTS ACCESS FREE TAX PREP.
SO WE KNOW THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT
ARE EITHER BLIND SOFTWARE OR. OF
PAIN A PAID TAX PREPARER TO
PREPARE THEIR TAXES AND WHEN
YOU'RE VERY LOW INCOME AND
YOU'RE MAYBE ONLY GETTING.
YOU KNOW WHATEVER YOUR CREDIT
MIGHT BE A COUPLE HUNDRED
DOLLARS A THOUSAND DOLLARS TWO
THOUSAND DOLLARS YOUR PAIN TO TO
FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS TO. TO GET
YOUR TAXES DONE THAT THE BIG
CHUNK OF MONEY FOR SOMEONE
LIVING IN POVERTY.
SO LAST YEAR WE HAD TWO HUNDRED
SEVENTY NINE THOUSAND CLIENTS
WERE SERVED AT OUR EIGHT HUNDRED
FIFTY VITA SITES ACROSS
STATE. AND AS I SAID SO FAR THIS
YEAR ON IN SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND.
AS A LOT OF NUMBERS BUT IT'S.
WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO IF YOU
WANT TO HELP EVERYBODY SAY THAT
MONEY.
AND APPOINTMENTS THAT HAVE THAT
WELL I'M JUST I'M TO SMELL AYE
AYE AYE AYE ONLINE I AM I AM THE
MOST GENEROUS. BUDGET PROBABLY
COMMITTEE CHAIR ARE RESPECTFUL
BUT COMMENT BUT. GIVEN THE FACT
THAT.
THERE ARE CROSSING OUT BECAUSE
THEY'RE GONNA SAY ALONE.
YOU DON'T YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE
THEM HAVE TO SAY DITTO DO YEAH
OF YEAH. I DON'T.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL SAY
THAT IS THAT VITA SITES ARE
CURRENTLY FILLED UP WITH
APPOINTMENTS FOUR TO SIX WEEKS
OUT.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT IN A LOT OF
ZIP CODES ARE TARGETED.
THEY HAVE VERY FEW OR NO TAX
SITES IN THE AVERAGE JUST LIKE
ONE.
SO I'M GONNA STOP THERE.
KNOW ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE JUST
SMILING AND.
NO I'M JUST TEASING YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH WE REALLY HOPE YOU
CAN THANK YOU FOR YOUR VERY
DETAILED REMARKS AND THANKS FOR
COMING.
YES MA'AM.
GOOD AFTERNOON NOW YOU LEASE ON
THE WHILE ALSO WITH THE UNITED
WAYS OF CALIFORNIA SOLVED WITH
THAT.
WHAT?
MY COLLEAGUE JUDY SAID.
AND ALSO LIKE TO ADD.
YOU KNOW WHAT WHILE A SOMEBODY
I'M CLOSER TO THE GROUND
WORKING.
DIRECTLY ON SOME OF OUR REACH.
THAT WHILE IT'S EXCITING THAT
WE PREACH ONE POINT ONE MILLION
PEOPLE.
RELIEVED FREE TAX PREPARATION
SITES HAVE A LOT OF THE BOOTS ON
THE GROUND IN THE COMMUNITY
RELATIONSHIPS TO REACH THE
SPOKES.
AND IF I WERE SOMEBODY LIVING.
PICTURE A PAYCHECK AND WITH
VERY LOW INCOME IT WOULD BE HARD
FOR ME TO INVEST A HUNDRED.
TWENTY FROM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
DOLLARS TO.
BE ABLE TO FILE MY TAXES IF I
DIDN'T HAVE A FILING
REQUIREMENTS SO.
INVEST IN FREE TAX PREPARATION
SITE SAYS.
INDEFINITELY IMPORTANT ABLE
BEEN BEEN A BEING ABLE TO REACH.
ALL ELSE ELIGIBLE.
TELL YOU I TO SEE RECIPIENTS
THANK YOU THANK YOU MA'AM THANKS
FOR COMING YES MA'AM. WELL I I'M
KEVIN ENDS CHO WITH THE FRIENDS
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
CALIFORNIA WE WERE FOUNDED BY
QUAKERS IN NINETEEN FIFTY TWO.
UNLIKE THE OTHER FAITH BASED
ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE WORK WITH
WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
HIGH LEVEL OF POVERTY
CALIFORNIA.
SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE
IMPORTANCE OF EXPANDING CAL EITC
TO YOUNG WORKING PEOPLE.
AGES EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY FOUR.
THEY REPRESENT ARE OVER A HALF
MILLION OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
AND THEY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS
EXPANSION.
YOU KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE AND
DIFFICULT CALIFORNIA IS IS A
PLACE TO START OUT.
SO. I THINK WE CAN HELP.
SEND THEM A MESSAGE THAT WE
SUPPORT THEM THAT WE WANT THEM
TO THRIVE NOT JUST SURVIVE IN
CALIFORNIA. ON THESE ARE NOT THE
KIDS THAT ARE GONNA BE.
THEIR PARENTS DEPENDENTS FOR
FOUR YEARS OF COLLEGE THESE ARE
KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON
THEIR OWN ONCE THEY TURN
EIGHTEEN.
SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN EXPAND CAL
HE AYE TO SEE TO INCLUDE THEM
THANK THANK YOU MA'AM.
GOOD AFTERNOON MR CHEN COMMITTEE
MEMBERS JIM AT THIS OF A WITH
THE CALIFORNIA IMMIGRANT POLICY
CENTER WHERE IN SUPPORT OF THE
PROPOSAL TO. AYE INCLUDE.
CURRENTLY EXCLUDED WORKING
POPULATIONS PARTICULARLY
IMMIGRANT WORKERS I'M IT'S CLEAR
THAT YOU KNOW FEDERAL POLICIES
DON'T MATCH THE NEEDS AND VALUES
OF OUR STATE THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO. REDUCE
POVERTY BUT ALSO EXPAND OUR
SAFETY NET TO REALLY REFLECT WHO
CALIFORNIANS ARE ACROSS THE
STATE WE SE ATTACKS ANDHAKA WE
SEE TAX ON TO PREPRESS PROTECTED
STATUS. THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS
WHO CONTRIBUTE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN STATE AND LOCAL TAXES
AND HAVE LIVED HERE FOR DECADES
AND WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT OF FOR
THE INCLUSION OF THEM MOVING
FORWARD WE ALSO SUPPORT THE
OUTREACH PROPOSAL. PARTICULARLY
FOR HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVE LIMITED
ENGLISH PROFICIENCY AND OR
DIFFERENT I IMMIGRATION STATUS
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR
THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MAY
BE ELIGIBLE FOR
THANK YOU.
A GOOD EVENING OR GOOD AFTERNOON
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US MIGHT
SOON YEAH EXACTLY.
REPRESENT COUNTY IF YOU SEE FOR
ME ONE OF TE PARTNERS THAT.
COORDINATES THE OUT REACH
STATEWIDE AND WANTED THANK YOU
FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO
CREATE THIS INCREDIBLE PROGRAM I
THINK OUR GOAL. IS TO HELP MAKE
SURE THE PROGRAM THAT YOU'VE
INVESTED IN AND AND HAVE MADE
POSSIBLE IS A SUCCESS.
AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS IS THAT
IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESS.
WE NEED TO BE ON THE GROUND IN
DOING OUTREACH AND COST
EFFECTIVE AND SMART WAYS AND
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOME OF
THAT BUT IT BECAUSE OF THIS
GROWING POPULATION OF WE WANT TO
CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE HAVE TO
INCREASE OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS
THAT WE DO THINK THERE'S A LOT
OF THINGS WE CAN DO TO TRACK THE
DATA IN APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO. TO WORK WITH
THAT CAN BE AND AND YOU ON DOING
THAT BUT THE FULLY MAKE THIS
PROGRAM'S SUCCESS THE ONE THAT
YOU HAVE CREATED INTO AYE AND TO
ADDRESS THE GROWING INEQUALITY
IN OUR SOCIETY. WE DO APPRECIATE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT
INCREASED AVERAGE FUNDS AS WELL
AS MAKING VITA MORE AVAILABLE TO
MORE PEOPLE WHICH IS THE
NECESSARY A TO PUT MORE MONEY
BACK IN PEOPLE'S POCKETS. GUY
AND HE'S THE FOR ME ALSO VERY
MUCH SUPPORTS.
EXPANDING THIS PROGRAM DO THE
IMPACT THAT WE KNOW IT HAS ON
LOW INCOME WORKING PEOPLE
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND LOOK FOR TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU TO TO
MAKE THIS. WORK PREVALENT TAKING
SOME THANK YOU FOR COMING TO
VISIT US.
YES MA'AM.
SURE MEMBERS KATHY MUST WORK
WITH THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
OF FOOD BANKS AS WELL AS THE
CALIFORNIA WHO POLICY ADVOCATES
WE KNOW THAT YEAH TO SEE IS AN
IMPORTANT TOOL TO PULL FAMILIES
OUT OF DEEP POVERTY IN POVERTY.
WE'VE SEEN IT EVERY DAY AND WE
WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THIS
COMMITTEE WERE UNAWARE OF TO
LOOK AT THIS FAVORABLY AS YOU
MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS WE'RE
IN SUPPORT OF ALL THE COMPONENTS
THINK YOU HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY AS I'VE INDICATED I FULLY
INTEND TO HAVE ANOTHER
CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS GIVE MY
COLLEAGUES AN OPPORTUNITY TO.
MAKE A DECISION WITH RESPECT TO
ADDITIONAL OUT REACH FUNDING. OR
JUST ASK ONE QUESTION ACTUALLY
IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A RESPONSE
BUT DIRECTED TO FINANCE AND ELIO
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHERE AS
WE'RE APPROACHING THE CAP.
CURRENT CAP AS I UNDERSTAND IT
PROJECTED.
ON THE.
.
TAX.
CREDIT.
WHAT IT WOULD COST TO EXPAND THE
PROGRAM?
TO THE YOUNG.
CAUSE TO EXPAND IT TO THE OLD
COST TO EXPAND IT TO THE
UNDOCUMENTED.
AND IF NOT COULD I COULD WE SOME
SOMEHOW GET A SENSE OF THAT AT
SOME POINT BETWEEN NOW AND THE
NEXT TIME WE. REVISIT THIS.
I UNDERSTAND FROM OUR FISCAL
PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE
ESTIMATES BUT.
WE CAN CERTAINLY MC WE CAN DO
TO ANNUL THEM YOU KNOW THEY'VE
BEEN SEVERAL DURING PUBLIC
COMMENT FOR CERTAIN THERE BEEN
SEVERAL.
.
SUGGESTIONS THAT THAT WE DO THAT
AS A LEGISLATURE I'M NOT.
OFFERING COMMENT ON ON.
WELL WE CAN OR CAN'T DO THIS
YEAR I'M JUST CURIOUS.
I WE HAVEN'T.
PRODUCED ANY WOMEN ASKED TO
HAVE WORK OF ANY ESTIMATES ON
COSTS OF ANY OF THE EXPANSION
PROPOSALS.
BUT I CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH
YOUR STAFF TO TO SEE WHICH WITH
WHICH OF THOSE PROPOSALS SEEM
MOST INTERESTING TO THIS
COMMITTEE AND.
MAYBE WE CAN
CAN WORK WITH TO GET SOME
ESTIMATES TO OKAY WELL OBVIOUSLY
WILL START WITH THE OUT CENTER
GLAZER.
AND THAT'S
BEFORE WE CLOSE THAT I DIDN'T
SAID EARLIER AND I AND I KNOW I
KNOW WE ALL FELT IT.
WHICH IS TO THANK OUR NONPROFIT
PARTNERS HAVE BEEN SO IMPORTANT
AND THIS WORK IT'S NOT JUST THE
FTP. A BUT WHAT YOU WANT DONE TO
US. MAKE THIS A PRIORITY AND
WORK HARD TO.
PUTTING YOUR OWN RESOURCES TO
HAVE IT BE SUCCESSFUL THANK YOU
AND OTHERS A LOT MORE WORK TO BE
DONE.
AYE AYE SIR LIAM OPENED AS CHAIR
IS INDICATED INTO. EXPANDING
THIS UP PROGRAM I DID HAVE A
QUESTION OUT OF ITS FOR FINANCE
OF THE ANALYSTS BUT WE DIDN'T
USE OUR FULL ALLOCATION AND SIX
SEVENTEEN IS THAT CORRECT.
AND HOW MUCH I DO WE HAVE TO
SEND BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND IN
THAT YEAR.
WELL I MEAN I'M NOT SURE WE
THINK ABOUT IT THAT WAY IT'S A
TAX CREDIT AVAILABLE TO ANYONE
WHO'S IS ELIGIBLE AND SO. IF
THERE WASN'T AN ALLOCATION PER
SE THERE IS AN ESTIMATE AND WE
CAN REACH THAT ESTIMATE WHAT
COLOR WE SHORT OF THAT ASPIN HOW
MUCH.
FIGHT BY I THINK HUNDRED EIGHTY
MILLION DOLLARS YEAH. SO WE
WE'VE DEFINITELY DONE BETTER
WORK.
TO.
TO TO MATCH OUR BUDGET NUMBER.
BUT THAT'S A HUNDRED EIGHTY
MILLION THAT THAT WE SENT BACK
TO THE.
THE PIGGY BANK JUST SEEMS LIKE
AS WE TALK ABOUT EXPANSION AND I
THINK THAT YOUR QUESTION IS A
CORRECT ONE.
WE DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED MONEY
BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE SOME KIND
OF CREDIT IN THE OF THE PINK
PIGGY BACK IN THE SKY FOR.
SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN SO I THINK WE
CAN DO THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
.
IF THERE'S NOT CENTER WILL
CANOEING THERE'S NOTHING ON THIS
ISSUE LET'S MOVE TO ISSUE NUMBER
TWO NEW EMPLOYMENT CREDIT.
OKAY.
.
BEEN DOING THIS SINCE TWO
THOUSAND THIRTEEN IT'S RIGHT FOR
ONE ANOTHER IS SERVICE. GOOD
AFTERNOON J. CHAMBERLAIN
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE YOU FOR
JOINING US.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
SO THE ADMINISTRATION IS
PROPOSING TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE
TO CREATE A CAIFORNIA HIRING
CREDIT.
THIS CREDIT WOULD BE AN
EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING NEW
EMPLOYMENT CREDIT THE NEW CREDIT
IS CALCULATED THE SAME THIRTY
FIVE PERCENT OF QUALIFIED WAGES
AS THE EXISTING CREDIT.
AND WOULD BE EXPANDED IN SEVERAL
WAYS BY.
BY GEOGRAPHY BY INDUSTRY AND BY
THE RANGE OF QUALIFIED ME.
WAGES.
THE NEW CREDIT WOULD BE
AVAILABLE FOR THE.
FOR HIRES ON OR AFTER JANUARY
FIRST TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN
BEFORE JANUARY FIRST TWO
THOUSAND AND TWENTY FOUR.
SO FOR ALL BACKGROUND AS YOU
MENTIONED IN TWO THOUSAND
THIRTEEN THE LEGISLATURE ADOPTED
ARE ARE ADOPTED SEVERAL BILLS.
THAT ELIMINATE LIMITED
ENTERPRISE ON CREDITS AND
CREATED NEW TAX INCENTIVES.
TO ENCOURAGE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT IN CALIFORNIA.
ONE OF THE NEWLY CREATED TAX
INCENTIVES WAS A NEW EMPLOYMENT
CREDIT.
THAT CREDIT HAS BEEN UTILIZED
MUCH LESS THAN WE HAD
ANTICIPATED. AND ALONG. A
MESSAGE AND SEND IT IN IMPACT
HAS BEEN HAS BEEN FAIRLY SMALL.
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD WHICH
ADMINISTERS THE CREDIT REPORTS
THAT THERE WERE LESS THAN.
OF FOUR MILLION IN THESE CREDITS
CLAIMED IN TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN
AND LESS THAN TWO MILLION EACH
IN TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN.
WE KNOW WHY.
WAS NOT A HUNDRED AND FIFTY
PERCENT OF MINIMUM AYE AYE AYE
TH.
I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF
THE GEOGRAPHIC LIMITATION THE.
THE FACT THAT IT'S HUNDRED
FIFTY PERCENT OF WAGES BEFORE
YOU GET ANY CREDIT. OF THE FACT
THAT THERE ARE SOME INDUSTRIES
THAT ARE THAT ARE.
.
THAT ARE PRECLUDED THAT WERE
PRECLUDED FROM FROM
PARTICIPATING THE CREDIT
I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF
ALL THOSE MAYBE SOME OTHERS.
OF THE TRICKS OF THE TRAILER
BILL RIPPED POSEEN INTENDS TO
CREATE A NEW CREDIT. THAT HAS
THE SAME GOALS AS THE ORIGINAL
CREDIT AND THAT IS TO CREATE
JOBS.
FOR CALIFORNIANS WHO MAY
STRUGGLE A TO FIND WORK TO DO
THE PERSONAL HISTORY.
BUT IT IS DESIGNED TO EXPAND
THE USE OF THE CREDIT.
I IN ORDER TO PROVIDE STRONGER
INCENTIVES THE TRAILER BILL
CREATES A CREDIT THAT EXPANDS ON
THE CURRENT CREDIT IN SEVERAL
WAYS.
FIRST WHILE THE WAGE RANGE.
IS EXPANDED INSTEAD OF BEING
FROM A HUNDRED FOR WAGES.
BETWEEN HUNDRED PERCENT IN THREE
AND A FIFTY CENT.
OF THE MINIMUM WAGE IT'S NOW
BETWEEN A HUNDRED PERCENT AND
THREE HUNDRED FIFTY PERCENT OF
MINIMUM WAGE.
.
INSTEAD OF BEING LIMITED TO
CERTAIN REGIONS WITH IN
CALIFORNIA THE NEW CREDIT WOULD
BE FOR HIRES AND ALL OF
CALIFORNIA.
HARM AND FINALLY.
.
THE THE TYPE OF EMPLOYERS WOULD
QUALIFY ARE IS EXPANDED BY.
.
BY ALLOWING RETAILERS AND HOW
FOOD SERVICE.
EMPLOYERS TO TAKE THE CREDIT.
ANOTHER CHANGE.
IS THAT THE CREDIT WOULD
INSTEAD OF JUST USING THE
STATEWIDE MINIMUM WAGE BECAUSE
THERE ARE OF MANY LOW LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE ADOPTED.
A LOCAL MINIMUM WAGES.
WE WOULD WE WOULD.
.
PERCENT MINIMUM WAGE THAT WOULD
BE THE.
THAT WOULD BE THE KEY ON ON
WHETHER THERE'S QUALIFYING WAGES
WOULD BE THE LOCAL MINIMUM WAGE
RATHER THAN THE STATEWIDE MANY.
IT'S LIKELY TO DRIVE IT UP.
YES YES IT DIDN'T CONDUCT
PRESIDENT.
AND WHO AND.
SO YOU TAKE THE HIGHER OF THE
LOCAL OR THE STATE RIGHT SO IF
IF AND SAN FRANCISCO LET'S SAY
IT'S FOURTEEN DOLLARS IN TWO
THOUSAND NINETEEN VERSUS TWELVE
DOLLARS.
FOR STATEWIDE.
THE CRETIN YOU WOULDN'T GET ANY
CREDIT UNTIL YOU'RE PAYING
SOMETHING MORE THAN FOURTEEN
DOLLARS THAT WE ARE NOT GIVING
SOMEONE WHO HAS TO PAY THE FORTY
DOLLARS ANYWAY.
THE CREDIT FOR JUST.
JUST.
FOLLOWING THE MINIMUM WAGE LOSS.
HARM THE TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE
RETRAIN RETAIN SEVERAL FEATURES
OF THE EXISTING CREDIT ALONE.
THE CATEGORIES OF QUALIFIED
EMPLOYEES A SEASON SAME.
THERE'S LONG TERM UNEMPLOYED OF
VETERANS EX OFFENDERS.
RECIPIENTS OF CAL WORKS FOR
GENERAL ASSISTANCE.
AND RECIPIENT OF THE FEDERAL
EARNED INCOME. TAX CREDIT.
ADDITIONALLY OF.
EMPLOYERS WILL STILL BE
REQUIRED.
TO MAKE CREDIT RESERVATION.
A WHEN THEY AT THE TIME THE
HIRING OF UNQUALIFIED EMPLOYEE
DO YOU STILL BE REQUIRED TO SHOW
NET INCREASE IN JOBS.
AND NOW THEY WILL SOON BE
REQUIRED TO CLAIM THE CREDIT ON
THEIR ORIGINAL FILE TAX RETURN.
.
SO I AYE SO THE EXISTING CREDIT
AYE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT ON
THE BOOK SO IF THERE'S ANY
EMPLOYER THAT BENEFITS FROM.
FROM THAT CREDIT HOW THEY WOULD
STILL GET TO.
THEY WERE SO GOOD TO CLAIM THAT.
AND WE DO HAVE WE WILL HAVE
LANGUAGE IN IN THE IN THE
TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE THAT
PRECLUDES AN EMPLOYER FOR.
TAKING THE SAME WHO TO CREDIT
FOR THE SAME EMPLOYEE. AND THE
ORGAN SUNSETS AT SOME POINT
WHERE IT WAS SUNSETS FOUR HARD
YEARS HOME AFTER DECEMBER A
DECEMBER THIRTY FIRST TWO
THOUSAND TWENTY.
SO AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE
PILOT.
PROJECT AREAS AND THE PILOT
PROGRAM THAT WAS SET UP
ORIGINALLY IN TWENTY THIRTEEN.
CERTAIN AREAS BASED ON
DEMOGRAPHICS AND CENSUS TRACK
INFORMATION. WORD IT WAS.
IN ESSENCE A HUNDRED PERCENT
RATE OF THE WAGE.
DOES THAT PROGRAM GO AWAY THEN
WITH THE ADOPTION OF THIS NEW
WAY BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE
SAME.
YEAH YOU'RE NOT RESTRICTED TO.
PILOT PROGRAM AREAS STATEWIDE
EXACTLY OF MY.
I MET A CUT YOU KNOW I I I'M I I
WAS GOING TO SAY YEAH I WAS
GOING TO. I WAS GOING TO SAY
THAT THE EXISTING CREDIT EXPIRES
FOR HIRES AFTER DECEMBER THIRTY
THIRTY FIRST TIME TWENTY TWENTY
ANYWAY YEAH.
SO THAT'S THAT'S ALL HAVE BUT
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
THE QUESTION.
ELLIOT ACCOUNT I WE DO HAVE SOME
COMMENTS SOME SO THERE'S NO
DOUBT THAT THIS.
ADMINISTRATION PROPOSAL
STRONGER THAN THE EXISTING
CREDIT.
WE JUST DIPPING BACK A LITTLE
BIT THOUGH.
.
IF IF YOUR GOAL IS TO.
.
BRING PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
CURRENTLY IN THE WORKFORCE INTO
THE WORKFORCE.
YOU MAY WANT TO.
YOU KNOW CONSIDER WHICH GROUPS
ARE FACING BARRIERS TO
EMPLOYMENT.
BUT THE SPECIFIC NATURE OF THOSE
BARRIERS ARE THAT'S KEEPING THEM
FROM FINDING EMPLOYMENT AND THEN
ASK WHETHER THE ADMINISTRATION'S
PROPOSAL ADDRESSES THAT AND SO.
THOSE FIRST LOOKING PEOPLE ARE
LIKE LONG TERM UNEMPLOYED OR EX
OFFENDERS WE THOUGHT. WE THINK
THAT A KEY.
AT MORSE.
SUBSTANTIAL ON CREDIT AND LOWER
WAGES MIGHT BE NECESSARY.
PROVIDE A STRONG ENOUGH
INCENTIVE TO EMPLOYERS TO HIRE
THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
AND THAT BELOW THE MINIMUM WAGE.
NO THE CREDIT NEEDS TO BE LARGER
ALL NOT OUT IN A MANLY IC'S NOT
BREAK MY HOUSE AND BUT FORTY
FIVE SURE SO BRAIN AND WEEP WITH
PASSED AWAY.
A HAND I'M NOT GONNA ROCK
THROUGH OR ANYTHING BUT WE HAVE
SOME GRAPHICS THEY'RE SHOWING.
.
HOW MUCH CREDIT YOU GET CERTAIN
WAGES?
AND SO FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU ARE
PAYING SOME OUT THE MINIMUM WAGE
YOU WILL GET A ZERO. CREDIT.
SO IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE TRYING
TO ENTER THE WORKFORCE AND
YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT. YOUR
JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND BABY BASED
ON YOUR INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MINIMUM
WAGE JOB YOUR EMPLOYER WILL NOT
GET A CREDIT IF THEY HIRE YOU.
AND I DON'T KNOW THE
CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE INDIVIDUALS
BARRIERS TO EMPLOYMENT THAT MAY
NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH INCENTIVE
OBVIOUSLY SO TO FOR EXAMPLE IF
YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR SOMETHING A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MINIMUM
WAGE. YOUR EMPLOYER MIGHT BE
ELIGIBLE FOR CREDIT BUT IT MIGHT
BE A VERY SMALL CREDIT AND THAT
MIGHT NOT BE WORTH IT. TO THE
EMPLOYER TO FOR TO APPLY FOR THE
CREDIT TO REQUEST A RESERVATION
TO DO THE NEXT RECORD KEEPING
TO.
A CLAIM THE CREDIT BECAUSE WILL
BE VERY LARGE CERTAINLY
DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA BECAUSE.
AT.
ELEVEN DOLLARS AN HOUR IF THAT'S
THE WAGE YOU GET NO IF THAT'S
THE MINIMUM WAGE YOU GET NO
CREDIT UNLESS YOU PAY. ELEVEN
DOLLARS AND A PENNY RIGHT OR
ELEVEN DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS.
AND SO DEPENDING WHERE YOU ARE
IN THE STATE.
ELEVEN DOLLARS AN HOUR MAY BE A
PRETTY.
SIGNIFICANT WAGE.
AND THERE MAY NOT BE A LARGE
NUMBER OF JOBS THAT PAY MORE
THAN ELEVEN DOLLARS YOU EVEN
TWELVE DOLLARS AND. HAVE USED AS
FIVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT
ISSUE THE ISSUE RAISED BY THE
OHIO YEAH I AND AND WE THINK IT
WITH IT I THINK IT'S A IT'S A
REASONABLE CONCERN AND AND YOU
KNOW WE ALSO HAVE A CONCERN THAT
WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE EMPLOYERS
WHO ARE GOING TO. BE PAYING MORE
SO SO IF YOU JUST HAVE A FLAT
DOLLAR AMOUNT. THEN THEN.
YOU'RE SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO
PAY A COUPLE DOLLARS OVER
MINIMUM WAGES I CAN GET ANY
BENEFIT
SOME WHO'S PAYING THE MINIMUM
WAGE WE WERE. SO.
I AM AND WE THINK WE'VE WE'VE
MOVED TOWARDS THAT PLAYED
PRIVATE REDUCING FROM HUNDRED
FIFTH PERSON A MINIMUM WAGE DOWN
TO MINIMUM WAGE.
SO BEFORE YOU HAD TO PAY YOU
FIX OVER MEN WHICH FORTY THAT.
AB I PAY MORE THAN FIFTY PERCENT
OF WOMEN WHICH HIT ANYTHING.
NOW WE'VE REDUCED SO SO WE THINK
WE FOUND A.
HAPPY.
WE'RE MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN
THOSE TWO TO.
BUT.
YOU'RE WILLING TO.
AS A DIFFERENT.
WELL MARKET FACTORS CERTAINLY
DETERMINE WHAT YOU
TO I MEAN IT'S NOT THAT.
LAWYERS YOU UNIVERSALLY SAY WELL
I'M GONNA PAY THE LOWEST AMOUNT
OF MONEY ON THAT PAPER ARE FOR
WORKER.
CERTAINLY FUERAN PARIS
CALIFORNIA.
MAYBE PRETTY HARD TO PAY
EIGHTEEN DOLLARS AN HOUR FOR.
A WORKER.
GIVEN WHERE YOU ARE AND WHAT
YOU'RE PRODUCING.
LET ME ASK A QUESTION THEN WITH
RESPECT TO THE.
BECAUSE THE THE PERFORMANCE IN
THE PILOT PROJECT AREAS SHOULD
BE SOMEWHAT RELATED TO. THE WAY
THIS NEW EMPLOYMENT
TAX CREDIT SHOULD
FORM
SHOULDN'T I MEAN BECAUSE THOSE
WERE A HUNDRED PERCENT AND THOSE
WERE THIRTY FIVE PERCENT. OF
MINIMUM WAGE.
NOT A HUNDRED AND FIFTY PERCENT
DO WE HAVE ANY STATISTICS AS TO
HOW. THE TAX CREDIT WAS RECEIVED
IN THE PILOT PROGRAM AREAS.
WELL THE I DON'T THAT A FAIR
QUESTION DOES A FAIR QUESTION
NINTH I THINK.
IT'S NOT.
EXACTLY ó AT APPLICABLE
OVERDUE BECAUSE ROSS EXPLAINING
IT TO THE TO THE RETAINED AND
RETELLING AND. FOOD SERVICE AND
IS WELL GEOGRAPHICALLY SO IT SO
IT APPLY ACROSS THE STATE. ARM.
I DON'T RICK I DON'T HAVE THE
NUMBERS.
OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BUT I DO
I DO LOOKING INTO THAT ONE POINT
AND.
NOT SURPRISINGLY GIVEN THE
OVERALL LOW UTILIZATION OF THE
OF THE CREDIT THE PILOT CARRIES
TO NOT HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY.
A SIGNIFICANT USAGE EITHER WILL
RETAIL AND FOOD SERVICE WILL BE
COULD
HUGE YES.
WELL I GUESS I MEAN THIS ISN'T
INFIRMITIES LOOKED DISCIPLINE
INFORMATIONAL.
NO TO HOLD OPEN.
IT'S FINE.
WILL OBVIOUSLY TAKE ACTION ON
IT BEFOR THIS.
BY THE SEVENTEENTH TO MAY.
BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY S. THAT WE
CAN TAKE.
TENURE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
AND MONITOR HOW THIS IS BEING
RECEIVED.
BECAUSE LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE
THAT WE DO HERE SOMETIMES WE PUT
A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH ON
THINGS THAT NEED TO BE A LITTLE
MORE REGIONALIZED.
BASED ON.
JOBS THE ECONOMY THE TYPE. THIS
WHATEVER SO I WOULD LIKE TO
CONTINUE TO REVISIT THIS AS I'M
SURE WE CAN EVERY BUDGET YEAR
BUT.
ANNA ASK YOU TAKE A LOOK AT
CERTAINLY THE ALEJO'S POINT
ABOUT THE.
.
HOW THIS IS GONNA BE RECEIVE
WHEN YOU HAVE TO PAY WHATEVER
THE MINIMUM WAGES BEFORE YOU
GET?
YOU KNOW ADULT. PERCENT OF TAX
CREDIT.
RIGHT.
OKAY OKAY.
SO THEY WILL GET A CURRENT
QUESTIONS.
NO BUDGET PISSA QUICK COMMENT
I'D I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE
REGIONAL I MEAN THIS IS MONEY
THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM
ENTERPRISE ZONES AND ENTERPRISE
ZONES WERE SEVEN SPECIFIC AREAS.
TO ENCOURAGE EMPLOYMENT AND
THAT'S SO IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S
REASONABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
THE REGIONAL DIFFERENCES IN THE
STATE AND HAVE THEIR PROGRAM
TAILORED THAT WAY.
ANY.
.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS NEW
EMPLOYMENT.
TAX CREDIT.
WHILE.
YOU DID A GREAT JOB SIR.
OKAY THANK YOU. PUTS OLD OPEN
ITEM WOULD BRING IT BACK PUTS
TALK ABOUT ISSUE NUMBER THREE
AUDIT STEPPING INCREASE THIS IS.
AND ACTION ITEM.
WHY STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO
PROVE HIS BUDGET STRAPPED IN?
IS THAT YOU MA'AM YES AWAY.
LET'S BEGIN NOT TO BE SPARSE BCP
REQUEST ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF
SEVEN POINT EIGHT MILLION
ONGOING TOSSED IT HAVE TO BE
USED BUDGET FOR INCREASING COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH OUR AUDIT STUFF.
THIS B. THREE DOES NOT REQUEST
ADDITIONAL POSITIONS.
AFTER BEING RECENTLY GAVE JOINED
SEVERAL STUDIES TO UNDERSTAND
THE INCREASING COMPLEXITY IN ON
IT WORKLOADS AS WELL AS OUR
EXISTING FUNDING LEVEL.
I TO BE MAKES GREAT EFFORTS TO
ENSURE THAT OUR RESOURCES ARE
UTILIZED ADDRESSED NONCOMPLIANCE
PROVIDE THE BEST VALUE FOR THE
STATE AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT
OVERLY. BURDENED TAXPAYERS.
THE STUDY SUCH TO CRITICAL
FACTORS BOTH OF WHICH ARE
DRESSED IN THE BCP.
WHAT STARTED OUT AS A PERCEIVED
OF LIMITED DURATION WORKLOAD
ISSUE? OF TO BE HOWEVER
CONTINUES TO FEED THE INCREASING
COMPLEXITY OF THE WORKLOADS
PERFORMED BY AUDIT STOCK.
AND IF SHE DOES NOT SEE THIS
TREND CHANGE IN ANY LONGER.
AS A RESULT OF INCREASED
COMPLEXITY ACHIEVING IS
REQUESTING TO PERMANENTLY
INCREASE THE CLASSIFICATION
LEVELS UP FOR VARIOUS PROGRAM
POSITIONS.
TWO PROGRAMS PLUS LIST TO OR
PROGRAMS SPECIALIST THREE TOOK
PROPER AIRLINE THE SKILL SETS
WITH THE WORK GROUPS THAT WE
HAVE.
I'VE TO BE HASN'T TALKED ALREADY
DONE A MAJORITY OF THESE RATES
CLASSIFICATIONS AND AS A RESULT.
HAS.
HAS INCURRED A HUNDRED MILLION
OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE ANNUALLY
BECAUSE OF THESE UPGRADES AND I
LOTS OF STUFF TO WORK ON CASES.
THAT ARE MOST SUITED TO THEIR
SKILL SETS.
THIS COMPONENT OF THE BCP IS
FOUR POINT EIGHT MILLION
DOLLARS.
THE PSYCHIC COMPONENT OF THE B.
THREE P. REQUEST FUNDING RELATED
TO A COMPENSATION STRUCTURAL
FUNDING ISSUE.
COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT OF STUFF
THAT WE THE LEVEL OF STOCK PAY
VERSUS THE AMOUNT OF TO BE IS
FUNDED FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL
POSITION.
MANY STOCK PERSON CHOOSE TO
PURSUE CAREERS THAT HAVE TO BE
AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT BUT
THEY TEND TO REACH THE LAST STEP
OF THEIR SALARY RANGE WHEN DOING
SO.
AUDIT POSITIONS RECEIVED PRIOR
TO THE FISCAL YEAR TWO THOUSAND
ONE TWO THOUSAND TWO ARE FUNDED
AT THE FIRST STEP TO SOLVING
RANGE THIS IS EQUIVALENT OF
SEVENTY THREE PERCENT OF AB TV'S
POSITION.
THE REMAINDER TWENTY SEVEN
PERCENT OF OUR EXISTING AUDIT
POSITIONS ARE FUNDED AT MID
STEP.
BUT THEY MOSTLY ARE TAX AUDITOR
ASSOCIATE TALKS AUDITOR AND
PROGRAM SPECIALIST ONE
POSITIONS.
AS A RESULT OF OUR STUDY UP TO
BE FOUND THAT ALMOST ALL OF OUR
PROVINCE SPECIALIST THREES ARE
IN FACT AT THE TOP PASTE UP.
AS NOTED IN THE MATERIALS THIS
CAN AVERAGE BETWEEN NINETY TWO
AND NINETY EIGHT PERCENT OVER
THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
OF THESE INDIVIDUALS BEING AT
THAT PASTE STUFF BUT THE VAST
MAJORITY THESE POSITIONS ARE
FUNDED AT THE FIRST UP.
I TO BE ALSO FOUND AND LOOKED
WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR PROGRAM
SPECIALIST TO LEVEL THAT EIGHTY
PERCENT OF OUR STAFF ARE IN THAT
LAST STEP.
AND WE'RE ASKING WITHIN THIS
PROPOSAL THAT FIFTY PERCENT OF
THOSE POSITIONS UPGRADE IT TO
THE TOP STEP COMMENSURATE WITH
THEIR PAY LEVEL.
RECEIVED THIS FUNDING WILL ALLOW
EFFORT TO REACH A HIGHER UP TO
FIFTY ADDITIONAL TAX AUDITORS.
AND ONE STOP FOR FULLY TRAINED
THEY WILL GENERATE ANOTHER FIFTY
MILLION IN REVENUE ANNUALLY.
AND ADDITION THERE IS A SMALL
COMPONENT OF THE SPECIES P.
TOTALING TWO HUNDRED SIXTY EIGHT
THOUSAND DOLLARS. WHICH WILL
ALLOW US TO FURTHER UPGRADED TO
TIONAL STAFF CONDUCTING OUR
PASSED THROUGH ENTITY AUDITS AND
ONCE THEY ARE FULLY TRAINED AND
ENGAGE THEY WILL PRODUCE ANOTHER
FORTY MILLION IN REVENUE
ANNUALLY.
THE TONE OF THIS REQUEST
COMPONENT IS THREE MILLION
DOLLARS.
I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS YOU HAVE.
RENTS.
OR IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSAL
OHIO.
SO ARE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER
CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSAL WE
KNOW THAT MANY OF THE.
POSITIONS.
THAT ARE. THAT ARE ADDRESSED
ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED T THE
FIRSTSTEP IS GENE MENTIONED AND
SO THERE'S A LARGE GAP BETWEEN
WHERE THEY'RE OUT IN THEIR
CAREERS AND WHERE THEY'RE FUNDED
OUT.
HOWEVER IT IS SOMEWHAT UNCOMMON
PRACTICE TO FUND POSITIONS.
AT THE HIGHEST STEP.
SO.
.
WELL IT'S JUST IN THIS CASE WE
WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT
YOU HAVE OPTIONS YOU COULD.
YOU COULD HAVE THESE
COMPOSITIONS ALL FUNDED AT THE
MID STEP AND MAYBE INCREASE
OTHER.
POSITIONS ELSEWHERE IN THE
AUDIT DIVISION FROM FIRST UP TO
MID STEP IN ABOUT THE SAME
DOLLAR RANGE IS ISN'T AS AN
OPTION TO.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS.
THERE WILL CAN QUESTION NOW.
OKAY AS A MOTION.
GLAZER.
SURE MOVIE ITEM.
WHEN HE SECOND ENGINE WHAT DID
HE LEAVE THANK YOU SIR WORK IS
COMING BACK HE HAS THIS PILE
HIGHER.
OKAY DE IT'S BEEN MOVE QUICK
CALL THE ROLL.
SENATE ROTH AYE
SOONER OR LATER SOONER WILK.
WE WILL LEAVE YOU WITH.
OKAY ISSUE NUMBER FOR ENTERPRISE
DATA TO REVENUE PROJECT THIS
SOUNDS LIKE A SUCCESS STORY.
AND IT IS FALLING ON THE HEELS
OF THE SUCCESS STORY YES.
SO THE SECOND B. THREE P.
REQUEST RESOURCES NEEDED TO
CONTINUE SUPPORTING THAT YOU BE
OUR PROJECT DELIVERABLES. I'M AS
YOU KNOW AS OF JUNE THIRTIETH
TWENTY.
TING AFTER BE COMPLETED THE
PROJECT ONSITE TWENTY SEVENTEEN
AT SHOULD BE COMPLETED THE
PROJECT. AND WE DID IN FACT.
DO WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING
TO DO ON MY VERY EXCITED TO BE
CONTINUING TO LIE NOT SYSTEM AND
COME THIS JUNE THIRTIETH WERE
VERY EXCITED TO PART WAYS WITH
THE VENDOR.
WHO'S BEEN A CONTINUING WITH
KNOWLEDGE TRANSFER SINCE
PROJECT.
FULLY IMPLEMENTED.
KEY TO THE VENDOR BEING ABLE TO
LEAVE IS THE RECEIPT OF THESE
ADDITIONAL POSITIONS FCB DID
PASS FOR THESE POSITIONS IN A
BE%
CP AND FISCAL YEAR TWENTY
FIFTEEN SIXTEEN. HOVER OVER
ASKED DURING OF RESEARCH
DISCUSSIONS IF WE WOULD WALK
AWAY WITH LIMITED TERM THREE
YEAR DURATION AND COME BACK AT
THIS TIME. JUST TELL YOU AND
PROVIDE ANY STATISTICS TO SHOW
THAT THESE ARE IN FACT ONGOING
RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED.
SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEY
CONTINUE TO BE CRITICAL AND
CRUCIAL TO MAINTAINING THE
SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED
AS A RESULT OF IT BR.
THESE POSITIONS I'MALSO JOINING
THAT THE EQUIVALENT OF FORTY
ADDITIONAL STOCK.
EXISTING STOP THE FGB HAS
REDIRECTED FULL TIME.
TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEMS AS WELL
AS ANOTHER GROUP OF ONE HUNDRED
STAFF MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE
PARTIALLY REDIRECTED AND THEY
MAINTAIN BOTH THE ETI SYSTEMS
AND OUR LEGACY SYSTEMS SO. THIS
IS KIND OF THE POT THAT WE HAVE
ASSOCIATED WITH MAINTAINING THE
SYSTEMS.
TODAY WE ARE HAPPY TO REPORT
THAT THE JUNE THIRTIETH TWENTY
EIGHTEEN COMITMENT OF REVENUE
FOR THE PROJECT OF FOUR POINT
SEVEN BILLION MEANT WE WILL MEET
AND EXCEED.
AND WE ARE ON TRACK TO ANNUALLY
PRODUCE REVENUE OF ONE BILLION
DOLLARS BOTH OF WHICH WERE
COMMITMENTS UNDER THE PROJECT.
SO AT THIS POINT I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
HAVE.
NONE FOR ME FINANCE.
FINE ISN'T SUPPORT.
SHOULD BE HAPPY WITH THIS ALEJO.
YES.
THOUGH IT WE KNOW THAT THE.
PROJECT WAS COMPLETED MORE LESS
ON TIME AND ON BUDGET THEIR
ONGOING MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND SO
WE'RE NOT RAISING ANY CONCERNS
PROPOSAL.
PERFECT.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
EVEN BETTER.
YOU'RE WELCOME HERE MOTION.
SO MOVE.
WE LIKE TO MOVE GOOD PROJECTS.
IT'S BEEN MOVE PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
CENTER ROTH AYE CENTER LATER.
SKINNER WELL I.
AND I DIDN'T SAY IT BEFORE BUT
IT SEEMS OBVIOUS I'M HOLDING THE
ROLE OPEN FOR SENATOR GLAZERS.
HER HUGE BACK IN.
ISSUE NUMBER FIVE INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY AWAY YET ANOTHER.
YEAH THE CARE COVER SOMETHING
HERE HE'LL BE BACK ISSUE NUMBER
FIVE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS.
ALRIGHT THINK YOU.
THIS P. THREE P. REQUEST TWENTY
THREE POSITIONS AT A COST OF
FIVE MILLION.
ONGOING. ATTRIBUTES ENTRUSTED
WITH AINTAINING THE
CONFIDENTIALITY AND SECURITY OF
TAXPAYER INFORMATION WE TAKE
THIS RESPONSIBILITY VERY VERY
SERIOUSLY.
AS WELL DOCUMENTED IN THE MEDIA.
THE WORLD A SECURITY CONTINUES
TO EVOLVE BOTH US TO SECURITY
PHYSICAL THREATS AS WELL AS
CYBER ATTACKS.
TO REMAIN VIGILANT AT THE
FOREFRONT ACHIEVING IS
IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR
ADDITIONAL STAFF RESOURCES
INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSAL. AS
WELL AS AUTOMATED TOOLS TO
CONTINUE TO STAY AHEAD OF THE
CURVE.
AFTER BE IS ALSO ESTABLISH KEY
PARTNER RELATIONSHIPS WITH THICK
QUARTERS ACROSS THE STATE TO
ADDRESS CYBER CRIMES.
WHICH HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN
AND OF THEMSELVES BUT ARE
INSUFFICIENT TO OFFER A LEVEL OF
SECURITY BEHIND FGB SPIRE WALL.
THESE POSITIONS WILL ALLOW IT TO
BE TO DO THE FOLLOWING ESTABLISH
A CONTINUOUSLY OPERATED SECURITY
OPERATIONS CENTER. AND THE
SECURITY INTELLIGENCE PROGRAM
FOR STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO BE
RESPONSIBLE TO MONITOR IDENTIFY
AND MITIGATE CYBER ATTACKS.
THIS PROPOSAL ALSO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO CONDUCT
REQUIRED SAFEGUARD REVIEWS OF
OUR DATA SHARING PARTNERS. TO BE
IN COMPLIANCE WITH IRS
PUBLICATION TEN SEVENTY FIVE.
THIS ALSO ALLOWS FOR ADDITIONAL
STAFF UPGRADES WE HAVE FOUND
AGAIN THE FOR THE. CONTINUED
SOPHISTICATION AND COMPLEXITY OF
THESE ATTACKS
AND THE ORGANIZED ORGANIZATIONS
BEHIND THESE ATTACKS HOUSING
BLURTED US THAT THE SKILL SETS
OF SOME OF OUR LISTA
CLASSIFICATIONS. ARE REALLY
INAPPROPRIATE TO STAY AHEAD SO
THIS PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES A
COMPONENT TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL
FUNDING TO AFRAID THOSE STAFF
MEMBERS TO WE CAN. RECRUIT AND
RETAIN THE APPROPRIATE SKILL
SETS.
AND THAT OF COURSE I MENTIONED
EARLIER THAT THERE'S A PROPONENT
OF THIS ALSO TO.
PURCHASE ADDITIONAL AUTOMATED
TOOLS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO
BETTER UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSE
AND DETECT ANOMALIES IN BEHAVIOR
ONCE SOMEBODY. TRIES TO GET IN
OR GETS INTO OUR SYSTEM SO WE
CAN STOP THEM IN THEIR TRACKS.
I FIRST TIME I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
FINANCE.
WE HAVE NO CONCERNS
THE VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT
ISSUE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS
ONE.
OKAY SEEING NONE THEIR OLD I
MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL.
SENATE ROTH AYE SOONER GLAZER.
SENATOR WHAT I.
OKAY ISSUE NUMBER SIX
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
CLASSIFICATION CONSOLIDATION.
ALRIGHT LAST ITEM OF THE DAY.
SO THE FINAL BRING FINANCE
LETTER THAT IS BEING PRESENTED
TODAY REQUEST ADDITIONAL FUNDING
OF ONE POINT SIX MILLION IN TWO
NINETEEN AND TWO POINT THREE.
MILLION IN NINETEEN TWENTY AN ON
GOING TO COVER THE COST OF
TRANSITIONING TO THE ICE TO THE
NEW IT CLASSIFICATION SERIES.
MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH
NOW THIS PROGRAM WHERE IT
TRENCHES ABOLISHED IN TRANSITION
THIRTY SIX IT CLASSIFICATION TO
NINE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS.
THE CLUNK COUNT BUSCEMI THE
CONSOLIDATION PLAN CREATED A
DEEP CLASS THAT INCREASED MAXIMS
ALWAYS FOR AIDS OF THE FORMER
AYE TWO CLASSIFICATIONS TAT
WERE INCLUDED IN THE US EFFORT.
THE INCREASE FUNDING NEED
DISTINCT SIGNIFICANTLY
ATTRIBUTED TO AFTER THESE HIGH
RETENTION RATES MUCH LIKE WE
ENJOY A HIGH RETENTION RATE
WITHIN THE AUDIT STUFF WE ALSO
ENJOY A HIGH RETENTION RATE
WITHIN OUR IT STUFF.
ON AVERAGE SIXTY PERCENT OF FTP
IS IT STOCKS. WERE AT MAXIMUM
SALARY THE TOP STEP OF THE
SALARY RANGE BEFORE THE NEW
CONSOLIDATION CLASSES EVERY LEAD
THAT EFFORT.
SO OVER THREE HUNDRED OF FTP
STUFF WERE IMMEDIATELY ELIGIBLE
FOR REYES AS OF FEBRUARY FIRST
OF THIS YEAR.
A TOTAL OF ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED
THOUSAND THAT ATTRIBUTES
ABSORBING.
WE HAVE RECEIVE DIFFERENT
QUESTIONS ABOUT.
.
BUT THAT NEED IT SEE OF THIS
ACTION. AND WHY IT IS THERE AND
MOSTLY WE RECOGNIZE THAT IS
BECAUSE ONE WE HAVE A VERY HIGH
STUFF.
AND WE HAVE VERY SENIOR STAFF
THAT ARE IN THESE POSITIONS.
THE BIGGEST CLASSIFICATION THAT
IS GENERATED A FUNDING DEFICIT
IS IT SPECIALIST ONE.
WE HAVE SIX HUNDRED STUFF IN
THAT CLASSIFICATION AND THREE OF
THE SIX CLASSIFICATION THAT
WERE.
PUT INTO THAT CLASSIFICATION
RECEIVED UPGRADES OF ABOUT SEVEN
HUNDRED TO NINE HUNDRED
ADDITIONAL ON MONTHLY SALARY.
SO THAT IS PRIMARILY WHAT'S
GENERATING THE REQUEST BEFORE
YOU.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
NONE FOR ME THAT FINANCE.
ILIO FOR NO REASON.
OVERCOME IT.
SURE WILTON MOVIE I IT'S BEEN
MOVED HIS CULTURAL.
XEROX AYE CENTER GLAZER.
CENTER WILL DIE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THAT
CONCLUDES THE.
PUBLISHED AGENDA FOR BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEE NUMBER FOUR.
AND OUR BUSINESS WE WILL HOLD
ROLL OPEN FOR.
CENTER GLAZER AND THANK YOU ALL
VERY MUCH REACH UP THINK HE'LL.
HAVE A GOOD DAY THANK YOU.
THEREFORE HE
BACK
BACKGROUND WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE
ROLE FOR A.
SENATOR GLAZER FIRST ITEM IS
ITEM SEVEN SEVEN THREE ZERO
FRANCHISE TAX BOARD ISSUE
NUMBER.
TO AUDIT STAFF INCREASE VOTERS
TO ZEROS.
CHAIR VOTING AYE.
ADDITION OF THREES FUNDED
STAFFING INCREASE
TWO ZERO.
SURE VOTING HIGH.
CENTER GLAZER.
OKAY.
PASS THAT.
I ISSUE NUMBER FOUR IS
ENTERPRISE DATA TO RVENUE
PROJECT VOTERS TO ZERO CHAIR
VOTING.
.
CENTER GLAZER.
SHE NUMBER FIVE IS INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY SECURITY ENHANCEMENT
VOTE TWO ZERO CHAIR VOTING AYE.
CENTER GLAZER.
AND THE FINAL ITEM MISSION OVER
SIX INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
CLASSIFICATION CONSOLIDATION
VOTERS TO ZERO CHAIR VOTING.
CENTER GLAZER.
WE ARE NOW IS YOUR.
THANK YOU SIR