HEARING TODAY.
FROM OUR DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS AND REHABILITATION.
AND THEY ARE.
PRIMARILY DISCUSSION ITEMS WE
HAD THERE WERE A FEW ITEMS AS WE
WILL GO THROUGH IT. THAT.
WILL BE ULTIMATELY ACTIONS THAT
WE HAVE TO TAKE.
BUT FOR TODAY I THOUGHT IT WAS
APPROPRIATE TO GET THE OVERVIEW
AND TO HEAR FROM THE STAFF AND
WHAT THE PROPOSALS ARE.
ON AND AND FOR US TO.
AS WE PROCEED WITH OUR
DELIBERATIONS
TO THEN.
TAKE THE ITEMS AND.
AND WHAT ACTION WE'RE GOING TO
TAKE
.
THAT OUR FUTURE SUBCOMMITTEE
MEETING OKAY. SO LET US BEGIN I
BELIEVE AND.
THE CURRENT START KERN IN ARE
DIRECTOR WILL BE.
OPENING. THIS.
AND.
NOT SURE WHO ELSE YOU'LL HAVE
WITH YOU AT THE TABLE BUT
PLEASE.
FEEL FREE TO INTRODUCE
YOURSELVES.
MORE MEN CHAIR MEMBERS
RELATIONS.
LIKE START WITH.
JUST THE BUDGET AND TWO
THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN NINETEEN
ARE PROPOSED BUDGET IS TWELVE
BILLION DOLLARS THAT'S INCREASE
OF. FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE
MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE
SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN BUDGET.
FOUR HUNDRED SEVEN MILLION OF
THAT INCREASES EMPLOYER COM
APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE.
THE REMAINING REQUEST BUILD ON
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS AGING
INFRASTRUCTURE ONE TIME MONEY.
POPULATION MANAGEMENT.
MY STAFF WILL ELABORATE ON THOSE
OF PROPOSALS.
OF THE PRISON POPULATION HAS
DECREASED FROM ABOUT A HUNDRED
SIXTY THOUSAND TWO THOUSAND
ELEVEN TO ABOUT A HUNDRED THIRTY
THOUSAND TODAY.
ON V.. THAT CONTINUES TO GET
ASSN I'M SURE YOU WILL ASK.
IS WHY THE POPULATION'S GOING
DOWN IN THE BUDGET IS GOING UP.
I'M I'M GONNA TRY TO RESPOND TO
THAT QUESTION.
THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET
INCREASES SINCE TWO THOUSAND
TWELVE THIRTEEN INCLUDE ONE
POINT SIX BILLION AN EMPLOYEE
COM.
ONE TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY EIGHT
MILLION TO BUILD THE PRISON AND
STOCKTON.
TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT
MILLION TO BUILD THE PRISON.
THE PRISON HOSPITAL IN STOCKTON
TWO HUNDRED FIFTY FOUR MILLION
TO TRANSFER FROM THE DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTH CARE SERVICES TO CDC
ARE TO RUN ARE IMPATIENT.
ACUTE PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITALS
LETTER INSIDE OUR PRISONS A
HUNDRED FIFTY TWO MILLION TO
COMPLY WITH THE POPULATION CAP.
TWO HUNDRED TWENTY SIX MILLION
AT LEAST REVENUE DEBT SERVICE
MOTHERS A NUMBER OF OTHER ITEMS
ON THAT'S. APPROXIMATELY ABOUT
TWO HUNDRED TWO POINT EIGHT
BILLION DOLLARS INCREASE FROM
THE TWO THOUSAND TWELVE THIRTEEN
BUDGET. THAT REALLY CDC ARE HAS
NO CONTROL OVER THOSE ITEMS.
WHAT WE DO KNOW WE HAVE INVESTED
IS AND REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS
ON FROM THAT TWELVE THIRTEEN
LEVEL OF ABOUT THREE HUNDRED
MILLION WE ARE NOW PROPOSING
FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY?
MILLION DOLLARS
FOR OUR REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS
I WANT TO JUST MENTION A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE GOTTEN
FOR THOSE RESOURCES.
OMAR ACADEMIC PROGRAMS HAVE
INCREASED
OUR VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS HAVE
INCREASED SUBSTANCE ABUSE A DRUG
TREATMENT PROGRAM IN HAS
INCREASED NINETY ONE POINT EIGHT
PERCENT WE HAVE DRUG TREATMENT
PROGRAMS IN ALL THIRTY FIVE
PRISONS.
ARE IN PRISON EMPLOYMENT
PROGRAMS HAVE.
INCREASES AS ASTOUNDING REALLY
TWO HUNDRED THIRTEEN PERCENT
FROM SIX THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED
EIGHTY FIVE IMPRISONED
EMPLOYMENT PROGRAMS.
TWENTY ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED
FIFTY THREE AND JUNE OF
SEVENTEEN.
WE'VE IMPLEMENTED COGNITIVE
BEHAVIOR PROGRAMMING AT ALL
THIRTY FIVE PRISONS AND
INCREASED THOSE PROGRAMS BY WELL
OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH THAT
INVESTMENT.
THE G. D. COMPLETIONS FOR
EXAMPLE HAVE INCREASED FROM
EIGHT HUNDRED THIRTY NINE IN. A
JUNE OF TWENTY FIFTEEN TO OVER
FOUR THOUSAND IN JUNE OF TWENTY
SEVENTEEN TO INCREASE OF THREE
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN POINT
SIX PERCENT.
A. DEGREES HAVE INCREASED FIFTY
FOUR PERCENT FROM ABOUT TWO
FIFTY NINE AND.
TWENTY FIFTEEN TO OVER FOUR
HUNDRED. ALONE
TWENTY SEVENTEEN WE'VE
IMPLEMENTED LONG TERM OFFENDER
PROGRAMS WE'VE BEEN.
OFFENDER MENTOR CERTIFICATION
PROGRAM SEX OFFENDER PILOTED SAT
UP ON OPEN WE'VE.
GANG PREVENTION UP PROGRAMS
COMMUNICATION SKILLS ARE PRISON
INDUSTRY AUTHORITY HAS HUNDREDS
A HUNDRED SERVICES MANUFACTURING
AND CONSUMABLE ENTERPRISES.
I'M SEVEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED
THIRTY FIVE INMATE ASSIGNMENTS
HOME THOSE OFFENDERS ARE GETTING
FOUR THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED
ACCREDITED CERTIFICATIONS.
AND FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE
CERTIFICATIONS A PROFICIENCY AS
THEY DEPART.
INTO THE COMMUNITY SO
SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN OUR
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS ON.
TO INCENTIVIZE.
INMATES TO PARTICIPATE IN
PROGRAMS.
BUT LAST YEAR.
MADAM CHAIR YOU
SPOKE A LOT ABOUT WHAT ARE WE
GONNA DO FOR STAFF TO TRY TO
CHANGE THE CULTURE.
SINCE LAST YEAR WE'VE
IMPLEMENTED A NUMBER OF
INITIATIVES TO TRY TO ADDRESS
JUST DIED COMPONENT WE VENTURE.
INTRODUCED.
ACADEMIC PROGRAM SORRY I'M
TRAINING PROGRAMS HAS TO SAY I'M
FOR SERGEANTS AND LIEUTENANT
BASIC ACADEMY ADVANCED IN BASIC
SUPERVISION FOR NON CUSTODY.
LEADERSHIP ONE A ONE.
PROGRAM TO SAC STATE FOR A
MIDDLE MANAGERS TO ATTEND.
AND GET A MORE PHILOSOPHICAL
APPROACH TO CORRECTIONS CULTURE
CHANGE ARM WE IMPLEMENTED
EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE
HAVE TO CHICO STATE WHERE ARE
OUR UP AND COMING MANAGERS ARE
ATTENDING. ALL OVER MULTIPLE
WEEKS PROGRAM THIS
PROGRAM WHERE THEY ARE GETTING
BOTH PRACTICAL AND THEORETICAL
MY CABINET. AND TRY TO ADDRESS
SPECIFIC ISSUES OF CONCERN ON
EVERYTHING FROM SUCCESSION
PLANNING TO HOW WE ONBOARD NEW
EMPLOYEES TO TRY TO.
YOU KNOW MAKE NEW EMPLOYEES
FEEL COMFORTABLE AND I'M A VERY
BUREAUCRATIC PROCESS.
ALL OF THOSE EFFORTS AYE
BELIEVER TURNING THE WHEEL TO
THE CULTURE CHANGE THAT YOU
SPOKE ABOUT.
THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T
HAVE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS IN OUR
DEPARTMENT BUT THOSE THOSE
EFFORTS ARE CHANGING DE THE
TENER THAT'S GOING OUT IN THE
PRESENCE.
WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED
REHABILITATIVE ACHIEVEMENT
CREDIT PROGRAMS.
TRY TO TALK TO A LEVEL OF ABOUT
TWO THOUSAND ON THIS YEAR ALL
KIND OF IN LINE WITH PROP FIFTY
SEVEN.
WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
PROJECT A POPULATION. THEY
EIGHTEEN NINETEEN PROJECTED POP
IS A OF GOING TO BE ABOUT A
HUNDRED TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND
FOUR HUNDRED THAT'S DOWN. TWO
THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED FROM
CURRENT YEAR A PAROLE POPULATION
IS GOING INCREASED TO FOUR
THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED EIGHT
HUNDRED. TWO FOR FORTY NINE
THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND
INCREASE OF ABOUT TWENTY EIGHT
HUNDRED. THAT IS ALL AS A RESULT
OF PROP FIFTY SEVEN.
IN AS YOU KNOW THE FEDERAL
COURT.
I'M.
ESTABLISHED A FEDERAL CAP ON OUR
PRINT SYSTEM OF A HUNDRED THIRTY
SEVEN POINT FIVE AND INCLUDING
AN ATTACHMENT FOR YOU.
.
THE COURTS.
ORDER TO S. IN SEPTEMBER OF STE
TWENTY SEVENTEEN WE WERE THREE
HUNDRED AND NINETY SEVEN AND DO
THAT FEDERAL CAP.
THAT IS.
REALLY A VERY BAD WEEKEND FOR
CDC OURS WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF
WHAT COMES IN THE FRONT DOOR.
I'M SO VERY CONCERNING THAT WE
WOULD EXCEED THE CAP JUST.
SEVERAL MONTHS AGO I'M HAPPY TO
REPORT TODAY WE ARE ABOUT TWO
THOUSAND TWENTY ONE HUNDRED
OVER.
UNDER THE FEDERAL CAP IN.
HAVE SOME BREATHING ROOM TO
ADDRESS OUR POPULATION.
I'M AYE AYE.
WOULD A SEARCH YOU TODAY THAT IF
IT WERE NOT FOR PROFIT TWO SEVEN
THE STATE WOULD BE FACING COURT
ORDERED RELEASES OF OFFENDERS
INDISCRIMINATELY.
AND WOULD BE. ON.
THE THE CHALLENGE WOULD BE WHERE
LED OUT OFFENDERS THAT ARE
REHABILITATED HAVING INCENTIVIZE
TO TO GO TO PROGRAMS WE WOULD BE
LETTING OUT PROBABLY THE
OFFENDERS THAT HAVE THE LEAST
AMOUNT OF TIME TO SERVE. WITHOUT
ANY ASSURANCES THAT THEY'VE
RECEIVED ANY PROGRAMMING SO I
THINK PROP FIFTY SEVEN HAS.
.
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED OUR LOT
NCDC ARW.
I ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THAT
WILL WE TALKED A LOT LAST YEAR
ABOUT THE CLOSING OF A PRISON.
I'M IN THE ATTACHMENT THAT I
PROVIDED TO BUTTONS FROM THE
THREE JUDGE PANEL. I WANT YOU
KNOW THEY'VE MADE VERY CLEAR TO
US THAT IT WAS CLEAR TO ME THAT
WE WERE TO GET OUT OF THE OUT OF
STATE PROGRAMS WE HAVE ABOUT
FORTY FOUR HUNDRED INMATES AND I
HAVE A STATE PROGRAM TODAY.
BUT WHAT THE COURT SAID ABOUT
HOW THE OTHER STATE PROGRAM IS
THAT IT'S NOT A DURABLE OR
DESIRABLE SOLUTION.
PUTS INMATES THOUSANDS OF MILES
AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY SUPPORT
IN THIS MAN'S HUNDRED MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS THAT COULD BE SPENT
ON LONG LASTING REFORM IN OUR
SYSTEM. INPUT MONEY IN
CALIFORNIA UM CDC ARE CANNOT IT
ORDERED THE COURT ORDER WE CAN
INCREASE OUR ARE AT THE STATE
POPULATION BY MORE THAN EIGHTY
NINE HUNDRED. AND IT ALSO
ORDERED US TO EXPLORE WAYS TO
REDUCE THE OUT OF STATE PROGRAM.
SO TO ME THAT DIRECTION FROM THE
COURT IS VERY CLEAR ON WHILE IT
MIGHT NOT BE TO OTHERS. HOME.
IT'S ALSO MY CONTENTION MADAM
CHAIR THAT WE NEED TO ALLOW PROP
FIFTY SEVEN TO WORK THE
REGULATIONS WE WENT THROUGH.
AND AUDITOR'S PROCESS TO GET
THE REGULATIONS TO WHERE THEY'RE
GETTING TODAY O. OVER FORTY ONE
THOUSAND PUBLIC COMMENTS AND A
YOU HAD. A COUPLE PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
REGARDING THE MATTER ALUM AND
WE ARE ON THE.
THIS COUPLE WEEKS GOING TO
FOLLOW OUR FINAL RAGS WITH THE
OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE LAW.
BUT EVEN WITH FILING THOSE.
RAGS WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE
LAW ON MAKING THAT PROP FIFTY
SEVEN A OPERATION OF LAW WE FACE
SIGNIFICANT LEGAL CHALLENGES YOU
MIGHT HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE
SACRAMENTO SUPERIOR COURT
DECISION. THAT ADDRESSED PROP
FIFTY SEVEN SAID THAT SEX
OFFENDERS NEED TO BE INCLUDED
IN.
ARE NONVIOLENT PRO PROCESS.
THERE'S ALSO A.
CHALLENGE IN THEIR.
SUPREME COURT ON THIRD STRIKERS
ARE EXCLUSION A THIRD STRIKERS.
I'M I'M WATCHING ANOTHER WE'RE
GONNA APPEAL THOSE DECISIONS THE
GOVERNOR MADE IT VERY CLEAR IN
THE SELLING OF PROP FIFTY SEVEN
TO. CALIFORNIA VOTERS THAT SEX
OFFENDERS WERE NOT INCLUDED AND
HE ALSO MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT
VIOLENT OFFENDERS SUCH AS THIRD
STRIKERS WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED
IN THE NON VIOLENT PRO PROCESS.
HAVING SAID THAT ALL OFFENDERS
IN OUR SYSTEM WITH THE EXCEPTION
OF CONDEMNED AND LIFE WITHOUT
POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE.
HAD SIGNIFICANT.
.
OPPORTUNITY NOW TO ADVANCE
THEIR THEIR RELEASE DATE EITHER
TOPROL SUITABILITY HEARING OR TO
A DETERMINEDLY SENTENCE DATE.
LITERALLY ALL OF THE FENDERS AND
DID THAT.
AND SO I MENTIONED THE MILESTONE
PROGRAMS A REBUILT IT THAT SHE
MIGHT KRAVITZ THE EDUCATIONAL
MERIT AWARDS ARE ALL IN PLACE
TODAY IN INMATES EARN THEIR WAY
TO AN EARLIER RELEASE.
TO ME THE POPULATION PRESSURES
ARE JUST TOO MUCH TO CLOSE A
PRISON AT THIS AT THIS TIME.
I'M NOT I THINK THAT THE IT LAST
YEAR PERHAPS WAS THE YEAR BEFORE
YOU APPROVED AND WE.
YOU ALL APPROVED THE ABILITY FOR
US TO GO HAVE THE TWELVE
ORIGINAL PRISONS COME EVALUATED
ARCHITECTURALLY ENGINEERS AND SO
WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN THAT
EFFORT THAT.
EFFORT IS TO TO END IN TWENTY
EIGHTEEN WHEN THAT STUDY IS DONE
WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A
DETERMINATION. OF.
PROGRAM CLOSURES ARE HOW WE'RE
GOING TO PROCEED.
ON.
I ALSO INCLUDING ATTACHMENTS YOU
A LETTER FROM THE PRISON LAW
OFFICE.
SURE DON SPECTER NAM IN AND THE
CDC OUR RESPONSE TO THAT. THAT A
LETTER SHOULD BE CLEAR
ILLUSTRATION OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES THAT WE'VE
GOT IN OUR SYSTEM SOME OF THE
PICTURES THAT ARE INCLUDED.
SORRY SORRY I WAS JUST GREAT.
HAVE MOTIONING THE SERGEANT
GIVEN THE FAMILY AND HAD HE JUST
BROUGHT ME SOMETHING I'VE.
A PLEASE PROCEED SORRY FOR THE
INTERRUPTION.
MISTER SPECTER'S LETTERS YOU
SEE WITH PICTURES ILLUSTRATES
SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE
DEFICIENCIES IN OUR SYSTEM.
I'M.
I NEED YOU TO KNOW THAT HOUSING
OFFENDERS AND.
ENVIRONMENTS THAT HAVE ACTIVE
LEAKS INTO THEIR CELLS TURN TO
THEIR DORMS IS NOT SOMETHING
THAT AND. THAT JUST ON A BASIC
HUMAN LEVEL WE SHOULD BE DOING
AND IT IS CERTAINLY CAUGHT THE
ATTENTION OF THEIR PRISON LAW
OFFICE AND I EXPECT THAT
LAWSUITS ARE COMING. YOU WILL
SEE THAT OUR OWN PROPOSED BUDGET
INCLUDES ADDRESSING
SIGNIFICANTLY SOME OF THOSE ONE
TIME COSTS FOR ROCKS THAT HAVE
HAVE FAILED. ON THROUGHOUT OUR
SYSTEM A RADIO SYSTEMS WE HAVE
CATASTROPHIC RADIO FAILURES AND
A COUPLE PRISONS RADIOS ARE THE
LIFELINE FOR STAFF TO RESPOND TO
EMERGENCIES WE HAVE TO HAVE A
VIABLE RADIO SYSTEM. HEALTHCARE
ACCESS VEHICLES ONBOARD WERE
TAKING INMATES AND PUTTING THEM
IN CARS IN THE. YOU KNOW IN OUR.
.
IN THE MOJAVE DESERT IN WRITING
THEM TO.
MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS IN CARS
THAT HAVE TWO HUNDRED FIFTY
THOUSAND MILES ON IT WE HAVE TO
PROVIDE THEM. OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR STAFF TO
ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS AND NOT
PUT PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAYS. ARM
AND I I NEED TO SAY TO YOU THAT
THE PROPOSED PROPOSED INVESTMENT
IN THIS BUDGET I'M DOES NOT
SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS I
COMPLETELY BELIEVE THAT
INVESTMENT IN CDC OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE WILL WILL BE
REQUIRED IN FUTURE BUDGETS.
ANOTHER BIG PART OF THE REFORM
IS IN MADE EMPLOYMENT.
YOU KNOW PROVIDING A LIVABLE
WAGES IS KEY TO REDUCING
RECIDIVISM IN MY MIND.
CENTER BELL HAS AND I'VE TALKED.
EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THIS EFFORT
WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF THINGS TO
TRY TO ADDRESS IN MAINE
EMPLOYMENT PARTNERING WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR TO INCLUDE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE INVOLVED IN THE
STATE WIDE.
PLAMEN PLAN INCREASED
COORDINATION WITH THE TRADES.
PI WHO PRISON INDUSTRY
AUTHORITY WERE PAIN FOR TOOLS
FOR OFFENDERS AS THEY LEAVE AND
THE FIRST YEAR TOO SO THAT ONCE
THEY GET OUT THEY CAN GO TO.
OF LABOR HALL AND GET HAVE A
LIVABLE WAGE WE'VE INCREASED
TRADE APPRENTICESHIPS THROUGHOUT
THE SYSTEM WERE ACTUALLY DIRECT
HIRING INMATES AND STE INTO
STATE CIVIL SERVICE JOBS WITH
THE GS IN CALTRANS.
HOME. IN OUR IN THE ONE OF THE
BUDGET PROPOSALS IS TO INCLUDE.
I'M A PAROLEE FIRE CAMP TRAINING
CENTER I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO
TELL ANY OF YOU THE SIGNIFICANT.
REALLY HEROIC EFFORTS THAT ARE
FIRE CAMP OFFENDERS.
MAKE FOR THIS STATE THEY HAVE
AT THIS POINT TO NOT HAVE ANY
ABILITY TO GO INTO THE FIRE
TRADE AFTER THAT JOHN THE.
TALKING TO CAL FIRE.
THEY INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD
BE.
THAT THERE'S OFFENDERS THAT ARE
IN THE FIRE CAMP THAT THEY BE
HONORED TO SERVE WITH A BECAUSE
OF JUST THEIR.
PASSION FOR OUR PROPOSAL
ATTEMPTS TO TRY TO CONTINUE THE
SPIRIT OF WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAS.
IMPRESSED ON US AND PROVIDE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE OFFENDERS
TO GO INTO THE TRAITS THAT ONCE
THEY COMPLETE THEIR. THEIR.
SENTENCE THEY CAN GO INTO THIS
TRAINING PROGRAM AND ACTUALLY
GET A JOB WITH CAL FIRE AND NO
THERE'S SOME.
BARRIERS TO GETTING HIRED
ANOTHER FIRE DEPARTMENTS WITH.
EMT TRAINING AND ALL THAT BUT
JUST THE ABILITY TO GO HIGHER
GET HIRED ON CALIFORNIA AND
CONTINUE THEIR CAREER. ON MAKES
A LOT OF SENSE TO THE GOVERNOR
AND MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
ON.
WE BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO GIVE
THOSE CAMPAIGN MADE TO RISK OUR
LIVES THE OPPORTUNITY AS A POST
INCARCERATION CAREER.
I ALSO WANNA MENTION OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE
WE PROPOSED AUTHORIZED UP TO
SEVENTY SIX YOU TO BE HOUSED IN
G. JJ IF THEY WERE CONVICTED. IN
ADULT COURT COMMITTED CRIMES
BEFORE THEY'RE EIGHTEEN BIRDIE
BIRTHDAY WERE ADJUDICATED
BETWEEN. THE AGES OF EIGHTEEN
AND TWENTY ONE INCOMPLETE THEIR
SENTENCE BEFORE TWENTY FIVE OR
PROPOSING HERE'S TO KEEP THOSE
YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS THAT WERE
HOUSED IN DJJ IN OUR
PROGRAMMING.
I'M SUCCESSFULLY AND NOT SEND
THEM TO THE STATE PRISON SYSTEM.
I'M SURE I DON'T HAVE TO TELL
YOU THAT DAHLE PRESENCE IS PREY
ON THOSE THESE YOUNGER OFFENDERS
SINCE.
I'M I KNOW THERE'S.
EX SIGNIFICANT I'M CONCERNED
ABOUT THE COST IN DJJ AND RIGHT
I SHARE THAT I'M CONCERNED A LOT
OF IT IS JUST ECONOMY OF SCALE
AT ITS HEIGHT WE HAD TEN
THOUSAND INMATES OUT. TEN
THOUSAND YOUTH OFFENDERS IN OUR
SYSTEM AND TODAY WE HAVE ABOUT
SIX HUNDRED AND THEY'RE THE MOST
CHALLENGING. MENTALLY ILL SEX
OFFENDERS VIOLENT OFFENDERS THAT
IN OUR STATE AND THE COUNTIES DO
NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO TAKE
CARE OF THEM. AND SO THAT THAT
POPULATION ARE PROPOSAL WOULD
ALLOW THOSE OFFENDERS THAT ARE
ARE DOING WELL.
TO CONTINUE IN DJJ AND PROGRAM.
I THINK IT'S A.
WORTH WORTHWHILE BECAUSE TO DO
THAT. IN CONCLUSION I'D LIKE TO
TELL YOU THAT WE ARE SYSTEM ON
SYSTEM
WHERE TRYING TO DO SMART
INCARCERATIONS I TALK TO
DIRECTORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
AND.
I'M NO WHERE IN IN THE NATION IS
THE CHANGES AFOOT THAT
CALIFORNIA'S IMPLEMENTING.
I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE YOU THE
IMPRESSION THAT THERE'S NOT A
HOME.
SOME SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS DRUGS
CONTINUE TO BE.
HOME
A COMPLETE PROBLEM THE OPIATE AT
EPIDEMIC CONTINUES TO STRIKE US
WE HAD ABOUT THIRTY OVERDOSE
DEATHS LAST YEAR WE.
.
WHEN YOU INCLUDE HABSI AND HIV
AND THOSE KIND OF.
DISEASES THAT'S ONE OF THE
LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN OUR
SYSTEM. WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH
CELL PHONES WE HAVE A YOUNG
MENTIONED PROBLEMS WITH.
A INFRASTRUCTURE BUT WITH ALL
THOSE CHALLENGES GAINS IN
MURDERS AND RIOTS AND STAFF
ASSAULTS.
THE SYSTEM IS CHANGING TO
SOMETHING THAT.
IS BEING DONE NO WHERE ELSE IN
THE NATION I'M VERY PROUD OF THE
STAFF OF THEIR APARTMENT. IN THE
EXECUTIVES THAT ELM HAVE PUT
THEIR HEART AND SOUL TO TRY TO
MAKE THIS CHANGE THAT THE
LEGISLATURE. ARM IN CERTAINLY
THE GOVERNOR HAS.
YOU KNOW IN ENGAGED IN. AND LET
ME JUST SAY ONE LAST THING AND
THAT IS IS THAT GOVERNOR BROWN
HAS BEEN A PARTNER IN THE
ENTIRETY OF THIS HE'S MET WITH.
ON CAPTAINS AND OFFENDERS AND
WARDENS
ARMY CONTINUES TO TRY TO ASSESS
AND UNDERSTAND HOW HOW CAN WE
MOVE THIS NEEDLE. AND I WANT TO
TELL YOU CENTER I KNOW YOU'VE
BEEN AT THIS FOR A VERY LONG
TIME THE NEEDLES MOVING.
AND THE AND WE NEED TO LET. WE
NEED OUR POPULATIONS STABILIZE
AT THAT WE NEED TO LET PROP
FIFTY SEVEN WORK WE NEED TO
FIGHT THROUGH THE CHALLENGES
THAT WE HAVE IN THE COURTS. I'M
AND I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A
CHANGE SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO
SEE.
REDUCE RECIDIVISM REDUCE
VICTIMIZATION AND A SAFER
CALIFORNIA.
THANK YOU I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO
ANSWER THE QUESTION.
THANK YOU I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES
WILL HAVE SOME BUT LET ME SAY
THAT. I APPRECIATE THE OVERVIEW
AND I THINK THAT THE SUBSEQUENT
ITEMS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TAKING
ACTION WILL GO. PRETTY QUICKLY
THROUGH THEM AND YOU ADDRESS
SOME OF THEM THOUGH NOT ALL IN
DETAIL SO CLEARLY WILL HEAR FROM
STAFF BUT I JUST WANT TO ALERT
MY COLLEAGUES WILL GO PRETTY
QUICKLY THROUGH THE OTHER ITEMS
SO IF THEIR SON.
QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE NOW.
GIVEN THAT A SECRETARY KERN AND
ADDRESSED
NOT ONLY AN OVERVIEW BUT SOME OF
THE.
.
ISSUES THAT ARE IN THE
SUBSEQUENT ITEMS IF YOU WANT TO
ADDRESS ANY QUESTIOS NOW. DID
SECRETARY PLEASE FEEL FREE.
SOME BUT IF YOU DO GO AHEAD.
THE SPIRIT AND HAS AYE ANDERSON.
BY THE WAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION IT WAS VERY
THOROUGH AND. I'M LOOKING TO DIG
DOWN DEEPER.
NO.
BUT I MEAN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH
THE.
.
THE DOCUMENTS YOU GAVE US IN THE
PHOTOS.
IN SOME OF THESE FACILITIES.
ARE WE.
PUTTING BANDAIDS ON FACILITIES
THAT PERHAPS ARE OUTDATED.
AND.
I MEAN I KNOW THAT.
WHEN WE STARTED IN BUILT THESE
PRISONS.
YEARS AND YEARS AGO. WOULDN'T
HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF PROGRAMS
THAT WE HAVE NOW THEY WERE BUILT
FOR A DIFFERENT ERA.
AND A DIFFERENT MISSION
YEAH AND ESERVER BEEN BANKS
THOUGHT TO. HOW TO UPDATE THESE
WAR?
?
LOOKING AT OTHER.
OPTIONS THAT MAY BE OUT THERE I
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE. AYE SOME
FOLKS ARE SHOPPING THE IDEA OF
OF.
.
PERHAPS PARDONING WITH SOME THE
TRIBES IN BUILDING SOME THAT
PRESENCE ON TRIBAL LAND.
IN STILL. BEING MAINTAINED WITH
HER.
OUR CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS IN
KEEPING EVERYTHING THE SAME BUT.
STARTING WITH A NEW FACILITY
BUILDING TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF
WHAT THE.
THE SAUDI DIES.
WE IT IS ANY OF THAT IN THE MIX
CERTAIN WHERE YOUR THOUGHTS WELL
IT CERTAINLY IS YOU'RE A HUNDRED
PERCENT RIGHT THAT WE PUT
BANDAIDS ON OUR.
PRISONS FOR A LONG LONG TIME
AS C. RCA THINK WAS BUILT IN THE
NINETEEN FORTY FIVE FROM ARMY
BARRACKS.
IN THE STAFF AT THAT PRISON
HAVE DONE OR REMARKABLE JOB
KEEPING IT TOGETHER AND UP AND
INMATES ARE VERY EASY ON THE.
INFRASTRUCTURE OF.
.
SHE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT SO WE
HAVE CONTINUED TO TRY TO PUT
BANDAIDS ON OUR SYSTEM.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES AS HIS
HAVE WITH THE POPULATION WHERE
IT'S AT TODAY IS THE INABILITY
TO.
CLOSE A PRISON DIRECTLY AT THIS
POINT OR EEN TRY TO REAP
PURPOSE SAID. ALL MY I THINK
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
DISCUSSION.
.
POTENTIALLY ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT
BUILD A REPLACE PRISONS BUT
THERE ARE HUGELY EXPENSIVE WE
BUILT THE PRISON STOCKTON.
A NEARLY THREE HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS TO BUILD.
AND THE SCOTT OPERATING BUDGET
OF VERY THREE HUNDRED MILLION I
THINK THIS TWO HUNDRED FIFTY.
SO VERY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION
TWO.
ADD NEW CAPACITY AND I THINK
THAT.
I THINK THE GOVERNOR WOULD SAY
THAT YOU BUILD PRESENCE AND THEY
WILL COME AND.
HE.
HE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE I THINK
BELIEVE THAT SHOULD NOT BE WILL
WE DO I'M NOT SUGGESTING NEW
PRISONS
ARE ADDITIONAL PRESENCE I'M
SUGGESTING NEW PRESENCE BUT NOT
ADDITIONAL.
SO ON SOME INSTEAD OF.
KEEP DOING TO INVEST IN LOSS
LEADERS.
DAD.
IF WE.
DID BUILD A NEW PRISON
SHUT ONE DOWN.
WOULD THERE BE ANY ECONOMIES OF
SCALE IT WILL THERE BE ANY
BENEFITS FINANCIALLY FROM.
HAVING KNOWING.
THE PURPOSE IN WHICH WE'RE GOING
TO USE IT FOR THE NEXT TWENTY
YEARS AND.
YOU KNOW.
.
I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT WE HAVE
TO OWN THE PRISONS I THINK WE
JUST HAVE TO BE SURE THAT. WE
CONTROL WHO WORKS IN THE PRISONS
AND THAT'S NOT.
PRIVATE PRISONS.
PUBLIC PRISONS.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT.
YOU KNOW.
.
TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING.
THE FOX AND HOW WE LOWER
RECIDIVISM.
ARE CHANGING.
AND IF
WE HAVE FACILITIES THAT WE COULD
DESIGN FROM SCRATCH
WHAT WOULD THAT DO FOR US AS FAR
AS MEANS THE NEEDS AND. IN ALSO
THE.
DEMANDS OF WITH THE WE HAVE
WOMEN OR MEN IN THOSE PRISONS.
YOU KNOW IT WHEN WE'VE BUILT.
.
WE REACTING TWELVE ORIGINAL
PRESENCE IN OUR UP TO THIRTY
FIVE ONE OF THOSE PRISONS IS THE
LEAST FACILITY. FROM A PRIVATE.
.
COMPANY THAT WE OPERATE IN
CALIFORNIA CITY SO WE HAVE
EXPLORED THOSE TYPE OF THINGS A
A TERRIER IN ANOTHER BIG ASPECT
TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE POPULATION
IS THE AUTHORITY THAT THE
LEGISLATURE GAVE US TO. SEND
OFFENDERS.
OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY WHICH
WITH WHICH THEY'RE ULTIMATELY
GOING TO PER ALL.
IN WE HAVE ABOUT A THOUSAND OR
SO INMATES OUT OUT THERE TODAY
AND WE'VE TRIED.
TIME AND AGAIN TO GET MORE IN
ITS NOT YOUR BACKYARD ISSUES
KNOWN HAS WANTED TO CITE THOSE
PRISONS.
I BELIEVE I'VE MENTIONED THE
STUDY THAT WE'RE DOING I BELIEVE
THAT THAT STUDY OF THE ORIGINAL
TWELVE PRISONS.
YOU KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OVER
TWO HUNDRED YEAR OLD PRESENCE I
BELIEVE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE
INVESTMENT IS GOING TO DRIVE
BACK CONVERSATION OF TWO WE KEEP
THESE. THESE PRISONS.
UP FOR YEARS AND YEARS ARE TOO
WEAK.
WHAT DO WE DO SOMETHING
CREATIVE?
THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING.
BUT I THINK I THINK IT'S IT'S MY
MAYBE A POLARIZED ISSUE IN A WAY
THERE'S NO. DOUBT ABOUT IT THAT
OUR PRISONS ARE EACH OUT IN THE
INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEEN NEGLECTED
FOR A LONG TIME IS THE PICTURES
DISPLAY. AND.
IT'S GONNA REQUIRE THEIR
INVESTMENT IN THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE PUTTING THE BAND
AIDS ON HIS USE THAT OR SOME
OTHER CREATIVE WAY TO TRY TO.
TRY TO HAVE.
GET NEW FACILITIES TO REPLACE
THESE OLD AGING FACILITIES.
THANK YOU.
BERMAN SECRETARY WANTED THANK
YOU FOR PROVIDING THIS THAT
OVERVIEW AND ALSO.
.
THE.
EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION THAT.
WE.
WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE COURT
ORDERS THAT WE HAVE BEEN
IMPROVING THE REHABILITATION
PROGRAMS NOT ONLY THE.
THE QUANTITY OF THEM BUT THE
QUALITY OF THEM AND THE ACCESS
TO THEM.
AND.
DEALING WITH OUR. CORRECTIONAL
STAFF REGARDING AND. YOU'RE
TRYING TO MOVE TO THAT ERA OF.
WHICH IS IS A CULTURE CHANGE.
OF THAT WE'RE.
WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON
REHABILITATION THERE CERTAINLY
FOLKS WHO ARE SERVING IN OUR
FACILITIES WHO MAY NEVER WHO
THAT IS NOT OF.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT.
THEY WILL EVER EITHER TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF OR OR BE EVEN.
EIGHT CAPABLE OF.
REALLY ACHIEVING BUT CERTAINLY
FOR THOSE FOR WHOM.
.
WE CAN ACHIEVE IT THAT NEEDS TO
BE OUR FOCUS AND AS YOU
RIGHTFULLY POINTED OUT.
THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT WE
INCARCERATE WILL RETURN TO OUR
COMMUNITIES AND STE GIVEN THAT
THEY WILL RETURN TO OUR
COMMUNITIES AND WE WANT THEM TO
RETURN IN.
IN A BETTER CIRCUMSTANCE THEY
ARRIVED
AND THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT.
A.
MODE OF OPERATION THAN WHAT HAS
BEEN THE CASE IN OUR FACILITIES
FOR MANY YEARS
SO I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT
APPRECIATION AND OBVIOUSLY.
TO THE GOVERNOR.
ADDITIONALLY WHO AS YOU
MENTIONED HAS BEEN WORKING IN
CLOSE PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU ON
THESE AND GOALS.
NOW.
BE. WHERE THE QUESTIONS?
OR THE ISSUES THAT I'M GONNA BE
FOCUSED ON IN THIS A PERIOD OF
TIME BEFORE WE FINALLY DO BUDGET
ADOPTION.
ARE A COUPLE.
ONE IS.
AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO
HEAR A LITTLE MORE BUT AS I
MENTIONED WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
THE OTHER ITEMS PRETTY QUICKLY.
YES POPULATION IS DOWN. AND YET
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE POPULATION.
THAT PROJECTION THAT WE WERE
GIVEN LAST YEAR AND I DOUBT THAT
CCR IS.
OVERLY CONSERVATIVE IN WHAT
THEIR ESTIMATES ARE TO S..
IT WAS.
IT WAS EXPECTED THAT WE WOULD BE
AT A LOWER NUMBER THAN WE ARE
RIGHT NOW.
AND ADDITIONALLY WHEN WE LOOK
AT.
THE POPULATION SAY COMPARED TO
LAST YEAR IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR
WELL WE'VE DONE GREAT STRIDES
FROM.
FORD FIVE YEARS AGO IN TERMS OF
WHAT THE POPULATION WAS.
I FIND IT.
CRIME IS DOWN.
SO YES THERE'S LOTS OF MEDIA
REPORTS ABOUT.
.
SEE OUR RETAIL THEFT AND BREAK
INS TO CARS AND SUCH BUT OVERALL
CRIME IS DOWN IN CALIFORNIA.
VIOLENT CRIMES DON'T EVER.
IT'S DOWN.
SO WITH CRIME DOWN.
PLUS THE GOOD MEASURES THAT NOT
ONLY CDC OURS TAKEN BUT THE
MEASURES THAT THE VOTERS HAVE
PASSED THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS
TAKEN THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS.
I'M ENACTED.
IT'S STILL DEFY SOME LOGIC AS TO
WHY WERE ACTS.
POPULATION NUMBERS THAT WERE AT.
AND SO. NOT FOR YOU TO ANSWER
RIGHT NOW BUT I THINK THAT IT'S
GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR.
THE LEGISLATURE TO TO TRIED AND
REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT. WHAT MAY
BE WATER FAR?
MEASURES ARE PERHAPS NOT WORKING
AS INTENDED OR IS THERE AN AREA
THAT WE'VE NOT ANTICIPATED. IS
THIS A MATTER OF.
.
NOT ENOUGH FOLKS IT. GOING FOR
PRO BUT NOT RECEIVING PRO NOT
SURE I'M GONNA RAISE SOME ISSUES
THAT I HAVE THESE OR NOT
ANYTHING'S I'VE MADE ANY
CONCLUSION ABOUT
BUT.
ARE THERE CERTAIN SITUATIONS
WHERE THERE'S OVER CHARGING. ARE
THERE YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THE
TYPES OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MAY
BE CONTRIBUTING TO S. HAVE BEEN
A POPULATION THAT.
YOU KNOW THAT WE WEREN'T
EXPECTING ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE
CRIME NUMBERS BEING DOWN.
YOU KNOW I.
I THINK IT WILL ALL GIVE YOU A
HIGH LEVEL AND. LOOK FORWARD TO
THE MORE DETAILED RESPONSE BUT I
WILL TELL YOU WHAT BUT THE
GOVERNOR AND I HAVE DISCUSSED IS
IN THE NINETEEN SIXTIES THE
AVERAGE SENTENCE LENGTH.
TWENTY FIVE MONTHS.
A HOME TODAY IT'S TWENTY FIVE
YEARS
SENTENCING THE LONG SENTENCES
AND ENHANCEMENTS HAVE DRIVEN
PEOPLE TO THE SYSTEM MUCH LONGER
THAN THEY EVER WERE BEFORE TOUGH
ON CRIME ISSUES VICTIM ISSUES.
POLITICS TERRIBLE CASES OUT
THERE THAT HAVE HAVE DRIVEN
SENTENCING I I CERTAINLY THINK
THAT'S PART OF IT THAT ALSO SAY
TO. THAT AS THE DEPARTMENT WE
DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE CONTROL
OF THE FRONT DOOR WE TAKE
INMATES FROM THE COUNTY'S
PROSECUTOR ALL BEHAVIOR.
CHANGES THAT YOU'VE MADE I
THINK THAT WITH ALL OF THESE
PROPOSITIONS PROSECUTORS HAVE
CHANGED HOW THEY'RE GOING TO
CHARGE OFFENDER MAYBE LESS A.
LESS PLEA BARGAINS ON BUT THE
INTAKE.
IN TRYING TO ANALYZE THAT WE
LOOK FOR TO THE CONVERSATION
WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF. OF HEAD
SCRATCHING. A LONG MEETINGS
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
WHAT WHY IS THE SYSTEM CONTINUED
TO GROW? KNOWN SOME MIGHT EVEN
SAY IT'S BECAUSE THE CALIFORNIA
POPULATION GROWS AND
AND GET A LARGER NUMBER OF.
OF.
HUMANS IN IN THE SYSTEM BALLOT
FORGE OF CONVERSATION I THINK
IT'S.
SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNOR'S
BEEN DEATHLY INTERESTED AND TRY
TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CONTRAST.
YOU KNOW ONE OF THE PIMARY
THINGS FOR PROPER HEAVEN WAS TO.
CLUED.
ISSUE.
HACK WAS TO INCLUDE IN THE NON
VIOLENT PROCESS TO ADDRESS THESE
LONG. TERM SENTENCES
I'M A OFFENDER HAS TO COMPLETE
HIS FULL PRIMARY SENTENCE THAT
WAS INTENDED FOR.
.
SECOND STRIKE INMATES IF YOU
WILL THAT GOT THEIR SENTENCE
DOUBLED NOW THEY WOULD COMPLETE
JEFFERSON'S AND IF THERE.
STAN DISCIPLINARY FREE OF THEIR
PROGRAMMING THEY WOULD HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY OF PAROLE. AND.
THAT PROP FIFTY SEVEN HAS BEEN
IMPLEMENTED.
SINCE REALLY AUGUST WAS THAT
THE AND WHEN WE.
IT.
I'M SORRY IT IT IS STILL TAKING
HOLD OF THE GRANT IS A PAID AS
CAN BE ABOUT FIVE THOUSAND AND
EIGHTEEN NINETEEN THAT OUR
POPULATION WILL.
REDUCED
ON YOU'RE NOT BORING INITIATIVES
OR OTHER THINGS THAT THAT MIGHT.
CHANGE THAT BOAT.
WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK OF
REDUCING OUR POPULATION AND MAKE
SOME DECISIONS ON HOW WE'RE
GONNA DEAL WITH OUR OUR PRISONS
GOING FOR.
I'M THE OTHER THING A.
I THINK OWN A DUDE MY QUESTION
ON OUR STATE FACILITIES WE GET
TO THAT ITEM SO LEAVE THAT ALONE
FOR IT NOW BUT. IN TERMS OF THE.
THE ON BUDGET ASK.
.
WE.
I NOTED THAT THERE'S AN INCREASE
OF ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY
NINE POSITIONS.
NO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE
LEGITIMATE LISA MINIMUM STAFFING
LEVELS BECAUSE WE NEED TO STAFF
EACH YARD. I'VE BECAUSE WE
CANNOT PREDICT AT ANY GIVEN DAY
WHAT NUMBER PEOPLE WILL BE IN
THAT YARD AND.
CLEARLY IF YOU WITH WE HAVE AN
INCREASING INTAKE
YOU CAN'T.
STAFF UP YOU KNOW AND TWENTY
FOUR HOUR SO WE NEED A MINIMUM.
BUT IT WOUD. AND AGAIN I DON'T
KNOW OF THAT NUMBER OF POSITIONS
AND AGAIN YOU MADE YOU DON'T
HAVE TO ANSWER ME RIGHT NOW BUT.
I'M GONNA LOOK VERY.
VERY.
.
CLOSELY AT HOW MANY OF THOSE
POSITIONS ARE ONES THAT WERE
OBLIGATED UNDER OUR.
LEGITIMATE REQUIREMENT OF
HAVING MINIMUM STAFFING LEVEL
HOW MANY OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE
FOR THAT PURPOSE IN HOW MANY
POSITIONS MAY BE THAT OUR.
.
WE DESIRED BUT NOT NECESSARILY
NECESSARY AT THIS POINT BECAUSE
AGAIN IF WE ARE LOOKING AT
TRYING TO ACHIEVE THE TYPE TO
POPULATION REDUCTIONS.
ONCE WE APPROVE ADDITIONAL STAFF
POSITIONS WERE IN A SITUATION
WHERE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TO
RICK REVERSE THAT OVER TIME. AND
WHEN WE LOOK AT YOU KNOW I
CERTAINLY DON'T WANT HAVE OR
RATHER. I'M NOT INTERESTED AT
ALL IN CUTTING.
ANY OF THE PARTS OF THE BUDGET
THAT ARE HELPING US FOCUS ON THE
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS AND YET
I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE PUBLIC.
OVER TIME.
SHOW THAT WE HAVE CONTAINED OUR
CORRECTIONAL IN THE SAME WAY
THAT WE ARE CONTAINING THE
POPULATION THAT.
TAINT ARE CRAP
SPENDING.
AND IF WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE
POSITIONS WHILE POPULATION IS
GOING DOWN.
IT'S HARD TO JUSTIFY TO THE
PUBLIC.
THE TOTAL REQUEST A IN A VERY
HIGH LEVEL IN NEW YOU'RE GONNA
GET IT AND.
A INTO SOME DIRECT QUESTIONS
WITH MY VERY CAPABLE STAFF BUT
THERE'S ABOUT. FIVE HUNDRED
SIXTY EIGHT POSITIONS
THAT ARE ASKED FOR IN THIS
BUDGET. ARM AND WE JUST GO TO A
COUPLE KNOWS OUR NEW NEW
POSITIONS.
A HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT OF
THOSE HUNDRED FIFTY OF THOSE
A FLOOR JANITORIAL SERVICES AT
THE STOCKTON A HEALTHCARE
FACILITY WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH
PRIDE INDUSTRIES. ON THAT HAS A
PROVEN VERY CHALLENGING AND WE
HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR FACILITIES
FOR LICENSURE ATTA ACCEPTABLE
LEVEL SO TO PRISON INDUSTRY
AUTHORITY WHO TRAINS THESE
PEOPLE WHEN I MENTIONED THAT WE
WERE. DOING DIRECT.
HIRING RIGHT OUT OF THE PRISONS
TO STATE GOVERNMENT OF ONE OF
THOSE IS THE D. GEASS THAT. IT
AND HAS TO HANDLE LAW OBVIOUSLY
JANITORIAL SERVICES ACROSS
THINGS ALL HUNDRED FIFTY OF OUR
REQUEST.
IS TO ADDRESS THAT ONE HUNDRED
FIFTEEN IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO
OUR MENTAL HEALTH ARMED.
BAD MANAGEMENT
THIS ALL CRISIS BED SAYING I
WON'T BELABOR NOW I KNOW YOU
YOU'RE WELL AWARE.
THAT WE HAVE ABOUT FORTY
THOUSAND OF OUR FENDERS THAT ARE
IN THE MENTAL HEALTH DELIVERY
SYSTEM ABOUT SEVEN THOUSAND THAT
ARE IN.
.
IN OUR WE CALL ENHANCED OUT
PATIENT PROGRAM BUT.
THAT REQUIRE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF
STAFFING THE COURTS.
HAVE CONTINUED TO FOCUS BOTH
REALLY BOTH ON THE MEASURE THOSE
OF THAT HUNDRED AND FIFTY MENTAL
HEALTH STAFFORD THOSE TIMES
STAFF WITH. PARTICULAR TRAINING
OR. A.
IN OTHER WORDS ARETHOSE.
PRIMARILY JUST CORRECTIONAL
STAFF FOR THOSE MENTAL HEALTH.
PROFESSIONAL STAFF.
IT'S IT'S A COMBINATION.
GOOD MORNING JASON LOPEZ CCR.
WE ARE.
MADAM CHAIR IN THE PROCESS OF
PULLING TOGETHER A MORE DETAILED
ACCOUNT OF EACH OF THE POSITIONS
THAT AREINCLUDED IN THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET SO. OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND OUR
BUDGET SHOP ARE GONNA WORK WITH
YOUR CONSOLES TO GET YOU THAT
THE DETAILS RIGHT.
SOME OF THE OTHER.
POSITION REQUEST INCLUDE THE
EXPANSION OF OF VOCATIONAL
PROGRAMS AND AT TWELVE PRISONS I
BELIEVE IT IS A TWENTY ONE
POSITIONS.
AS YOU KNOW WITH A PROP FIFTY
SEVEN AM MILESTONE PROGRAMS TO
OUR ABILITY TO GET OFFENDERS
INTO PROGRAMMING AND GET A MUCH
TRADE.
IT IS SO THIS IS EXPANDING IN
AREAS WHERE WE WHERE WE CAN.
THERE'S THIRTY ONE OAKS USE ME.
THIRTEEN POSITIONS THAT ARE
DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE
REHABILITATIVE ACHIEVEMENT
CREDIT PROGRAM THAT WE ESTABLISH
A MENTION TO YOU THAT WE. HAVE
OVER TWO THOUSAND.
SELF HELP PROGRAMS THAT THE
INMATES CAN NOW EARN CREDITS FOR
THIS IS TO.
HELP NOT ONLY MANAGING TWO
ATTENDANTS BUT SO THAT WE CAN
EXPAND REHABILITATIVE
ACHIEVEMENT PROGRAMS.
AND AND OF COURSE SEVEN OF
THOSE PRESENT IN POSITIONS IS
FOR THE VENTURA TRAINING CENTER
THE PEARLY FIRE CAMP TRAINING
CENTER.
I TALKED I LOOK FORWARD TO THE
OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THAT
THROUGH THROUGH THESE I'M WITH
YOU IN GREAT DETAIL AND AND
JUSTIFY WHY WE THINK IT MAKES
SENSE TO OUR OVERALL.
VISION FOR THAT APARTMENT IN
AND
THESE ARE ALL.
ADDRESSING THOSE SPECIFIC NEEDS
TYLER TOWARD TALKING MORE ABOUT
IT WITH WHICH YOU.
GREAT AND THEN FINALLY I WANTED
TO.
.
THANK YOU FOR IN.
YOUR.
.
CONVERSATIONS WITH CAL FIRE
BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF US.
WHO MONITOR? NOT ONLY THE FIRES
IN CALIFORNIA OF COURSE THIS
YEAR. SO THEY WERE SO TERRIBLE
AND SO DEVASTATING BUT ALSO
MONITORING HOW WE STAFF THEM AND
KNOWING THAT WE HAVE VERY GOOD
CREWS FROM OUR INMATE POPULATION
THAT WE DEPEND ON. TO HELP US IN
THOSE.
WILDFIRE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND THAT THE THOSE INMATES WHO
PERFORM ARE VERY PROUD OF THAT
WORK.
AND I THINK THAT ALL OF US WHO
HAVE BEEN CLOSELY FOLLOWING IT.
ADDS FUEL IT SEE A RELEASE A
HUGE MISSED OPPORTUNITY THAT
THEY WOULD BE RELEASED FROM AT
THE POINT THAT THEY ARE RELEASED
FROM PRISON AFTER THOSE THAT
TRAINING THAT EXPERIENCE.
THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL WORK IN THAT
AREA THAT THEY WOULD. IN EFFECT
BE UNABLE TO PURSUE. ANY TYPE
OF.
EMPLOYMENT IN THE FIRE SERVICE
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING.
.
WE COULD.
.
IMAGINE THAT MY COLLEAGUES IN
THE DIS HERE WHICH SHARE THAT
YOU KNOW WE'D LIKE TO SEE.
SOME MOVEMENT IN THAT DIRECTION
SO THAT THOSE FOLKS WHO WERE
APPROPRIATE CAN ACTUALLY PURSUE
A CAREER IN FIRE SERVICE.
ALRIGHT SO WE WILL GO TO.
.
BUT THE ADULT PRISON PERHAPS AND
MISTER LOPEZ I KNOW THAT THERE'S
YOU WE CAN BRING UP THE OTHER
STAFF BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY YOU
WILL BE PRESENTING ON ALL OF
THOSE ALONG WITH ONE.
EITHER CHRIS CHAMBERS ARE
JENNIFER BRETT ó MAYBE YOU
COULD BRING THEM BOTH UP AND WE
CAN.
BOTH OF THEM OKAY YEAH.
OKAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU
.
I'D SAY AN ADDITIONAL WE.
WE KNOW THAT SECRETARY KERN AND.
DID.
REFERENCE A NUMBER OF THE AREAS
THAT SO. YOU COULD FOCUS ON
THOSE THINGS THAT HE DIDN'T
ALREADY GIVE US THE HEADS UP
ABOUT S. MA'AM WE WILL.
COVER THEM QUICKLY AND THEN BE
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
REALLY
SO AS YOU MENTIONED NEXT UP ON
THE AGENDA IS OUR ADULT
POPULATION. AS WE ALL KNOW BY
NOW A CITY SEE OURS OFFICE OF
RESEARCH HAS RESPONSIBLE TWICE A
YEAR FOR PRODUCING A VARIETY OF
POPULATION FIGURES FOR THE
DEPARTMENT THAT DRIVE THEN THE
FORMAL BUDGET ACTIONS THAT ARE
TAKEN.
TODAY WE'RE JOINED BY CHRIS
CHAMBERS WHO IS OUR ASSOCIATE
DIRECTOR WITHIN OUR OFFICE OF
RESEARCH HE'S GOING TO PROVIDE
YOU A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF HOW
WE CAME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS
AND THEN WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE
ANY QUESTIONS.
NONE OF CHAIR SENATORS GOOD
MORNING MY NAME'S CHRIS
CHAMBERS.
SERVICE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF
SEE OURS
OFFICE OF RESEARCH.
THE OFFICE OF RESEARCH PREPARE
CCAR'S ANNUAL ADULT. INSTITUTION
IN PEARL POPULATION FORECASTS
AND.
HERE TO UPDATE SOME CAN.
IS PROJECTIONS.
THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS ARE
PREPARED TWICE ANNUALLY ONCE IN
THE SPRING AND ONCE OF THE FALL
OF EACH YEAR.
THE PROJECTIONS ARE DEVELOPED
USING HISTORICAL TREND DATA AND
TIME SERIES FORECASTING
TECHNIQUES.
OUR CURRENT VERSION IS THE
TWENTY SEVENTEEN FALL POPULATION
PROJECTIONS REPORT. WHICH WAS
JUST RELEASED IN JANUARY OF
TWENTY EIGHTEEN.
THE DON'T INSTITUTION POPULATION
WAS ONE HUNDRED THIRTY ONE
THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED SIXTY
OFFENDERS.
ON JUNE THIRTIETH TWENTY
SEVENTEEN.
OUR PROJECTION FOR JUNE
THIRTIETH TWENTY EIGHTEEN IS ONE
HUNDRED TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND
TWO HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR
OFFENDERS.
THIS IS A ONE YEAR DECREASE OF
NEARLY THREE THOUSAND OFFENDERS
ARE ROUGHLY TWO POINT THREE
PERCENT.
BUT AS OF FEBRUARY TWENTY EIGHT
TWENTY EIGHTEEN OUR LAST WEEKLY
SUMMARY THE DULL INSTITUTION
POPULATION STANDS AT.
ONE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE THOUSAND
FOUR HUNDRED AND THREE.
ANNUAL ADELE INSTITUTION
POPULATION GROWTH IS EXPECTED TO
CONTINUE DECLINING THE NEXT FEW
BUDGET CYCLES.
CHIEFLY RESPONSIBLE AS
PROPOSITION FIFTY SEVEN'S
ENHANCED CREDIT EARNING.
THESE ENHANCEMENTS BEGAN
AFFECTING OFFENDER POPULATION AT
THE END OF JUNE TWENTY SEVENTEEN
WHICH STARTS THE FALL TWENTY
SEVENTEEN POPULATION PROJECTIONS
CYCLE.
SINCE OUR ACTUAL RELEASED DATA
IS STILL IN THE BEGINNING
STAGES.
WE RECOMMEND CAUTION BE EMPLOYED
WHEN INTERPRETING THESE VERY
EARLY PROJECTIONS.
PLEASE KNOW THAT THOUGH THE
DEPARTMENT CONTINUALLY REFINES.
A OUR LOGIC STAYING ABREAST WITH
CURRENT INSTITUTION ENVIRONMENT.
WHERE DOES THIS PUT THE STATE IN
TWO YEARS SAY JANET JUNE TWENTY
TWENTY?
THE DAHLE INSTITUTION POPULATION
IS PROJECTED AT ONE HUNDRED
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND NINE
HUNDRED FIFTY THREE FOR JUNE
THIRTIETH TWENTY TWENTY.
THIS PROJECTION AND RESULT IN A
TWO YEAR DECREASE OF. TWENTY
THREE HUNDRED ELEVEN OFFENDERS.
MOVING TO PEROT PROJECTIONS
A PAROLE PROJECTION PART OF THE
PAROLE POPULATION WAS. FORTY
FIVE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED SIXTY
ONE ON JUNE THIRTIETH TWENTY
SEVENTEEN.
OUR PROJECTION FOR JUNE
THIRTIETH TWENTY EIGHTEEN US
FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND SEVEN
HUNDRED NINETY SEVEN.
THIS IS A ONE YEAR INCREASE OF
SEVEN POINT EIGHT PERCENT.
FROM HERE THE PAROLE POPULATION
IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE FURTHER
DURING THE NEXT TO BUDGET
CYCLES.
AS OF FEBRUARY TWENTY EIGHTH
TWENTY THIRTEEN.
THE POPULATION
THE PRO THE POPULATION STANDS AT
FORTY SIX THOUSAND.
FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FOUR
HUNDRED SIXTY THREE.
AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS IS
QUICKLY COME BACK AND ADDRESS A
QUESTION MADAM CHAIR THAT YOU
HAD ASKED.
WITH RESPECT TO WHY WE HAVEN'T
SEEN POPULATION REDUCTIONS
ANTICIPATED IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
BUDGET.
TO THE ITEMS THAT WE SAW.
IN IN THIS.
IS AN INCREASE IN COMMITMENTS
FOR FISCAL YEAR SIXTEEN
SEVENTEEN STARTING THE LATTER
HALF OF TWENTY SIXTEEN.
OF OF ALL DETERMINEDLY SENTENCE
COMMITMENTS IN PARTICULAR SECOND
STRIKERS AND I HAVE SOME NUMBERS
TO.
TO PROVIDES FOR THAT IN FISCAL
YEAR.
TWENTY SIXTEEN AND SEVENTEEN
THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY ONE
THOUSAND MORE.
DETERMINEDLY SENTENCE
COMMITMENTS THAN THE PRIOR YEAR.
THIS REPRESENTED AN EIGHT POINT
FOUR PERCENT INCREASE IN SECOND
STRIKER COMMITMENTS.
AND A AND APPROXIMATELY ONE
POINT ONE PERCENT INCREASE IN
LOOKING AT THE PROJECTIONS
I INITIALLY WHEN DEVELOPING A
SPRING PROJECTIONS.
SPRING TWENTY SEVENTEEN
PROJECTIONS PROP FIFTY SEVEN WAS
BRAND NEW.
AND THEREFORE WE HAVE NO TREND
DATA TO BASE OUR SIMPSON'S ON.
SO IT WAS NECESSARY TO MAKE AM
NUMBER ASSUMPTIONS BASED UPON
FORECASTING AND REGULATIONS THAT
WERE STILL IN DEVELOPMENT.
AND WITHOUT AGAIN HAVING IN THE
IN THE TREND DATA AVAILABLE AS
YOU CAN IMAGINE. WE LEARNED
QUITE A BIT.
AS.
WE WORKED THROUGH THE INITIAL
IMPLEMENTATION OF PROP FIFTY
SEVEN AS MORE DETAILS BECOME
AVAILABLE.
SUBSEQUENTLY IT WAS NECESSARY TO
MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
TO SOME OF THESE ASSUMPTIONS FOR
OUR FALL POPULATION PROJECTIONS.
ONE OF THE JUSTICE MADE WAS TO
ACCOUNT FOR CHANGE IN THE.
CREDIT LOS STRUCTURE.
THIS ACCOUNTED FOR FULL DAY
CREDIT LOSSES EFFECTIVE AUGUST
TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
DECREASE THE IMPACT OF GOOD
CONDUCT CREDITS.
RELATIVE TO SPRING PROJECTIONS.
THE SECOND OF THE APPROVAL RATE
THAT WE WITNESSED WAS DECREASED
FOR THAT NON VIOLENT PAROLE
PROCESS.
COMPARED TO THE PROJECTED RATE
IN SPRING REPORT TO ALIGN. WITH
ACTUAL SUBJECT THUS FAR.
THE IMPACT OF THIS CREDIT
EARNING STRUCTURE BEGIN TO
IMPACT RELEASES IN OCTOBER
TWENTY SEVENTEEN IS REGULATIONS
DELINEATE AND WINDOW.
WHERE IT HAS ENHANCED CREDITS DO
NOT SHORTEN OFFENDERS EXPECTED
STATE WITH IT AND YOU PUT THE
MICHAEL LITTLE CLOSE I'M SORRY?
GOOD THINK BETTER.
RIGHT.
UP.
SO WE WE SAW A IMPACTS STARTING
OCTOBER TWENTY SEVENTEEN AS A
REGULATIONS DELINEATED WENT
AWARENESS ENHANCE CREDITS DO NOT
SHORTEN. IN OFFENDERS EXPECTED
RELEASE DATE WITH US SIXTY DAYS.
IN TERMS OF ADMISSIONS.
IS IS A SETTLEMENT BUT BEFORE
WE NOTED INCREASES IN ADMISSIONS
STARTING IN THE LATTER HALF OF
TWENTY SIXTEEN AND ALL DETERMINE
THE SENTENCE COMMITMENTS.
BUT A GREATER INCREASE WAS
OBSERVED A SECOND STRIKER
COMMITMENTS COMPARED TO THE
PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR.
ALTHOUGH WE'VE SEEN.
THAT.
CONTINUED THROUGH THE LAST YEAR
WE ARE STARTING TO SEE THOSE
NUMBERS FLATTENED NOW.
ARE AT PRESENT THERE ARE NO
DISTINCT PATTERNS.
THAT ENABLE US TO A FURTHER.
ANALYZING MATERIAL. UP BUT AS
SUCH WE ARE ENGAGING IN A
BROADER ANALYSIS AND REVIEW. OF
CALIFORNIA'S CRIMINAL JUSTICE
ST.
SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
MADAM CHAIR I ALSO WANTED TO ADD
THAT DURING YESTERDAY'S ASSEMBLY
HEARING SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES
OVER THERE ASKED SIMILAR
QUESTION ABOUT THOSE TRENDS AND
WHAT WAS CONTRIBUTING SO. BEYOND
WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED HERE WE ARE
WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER SOME
INFORMATION FOR THEM SO I'D BE
HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOUR
STAFF AS WELL MIGHT BE HELPFUL
FOR YOU ALL.
BEFORE I.
NOT SURE IF OKAY MY QUESTION BE
WHEN YOU GAVE US THOSE ESTIMATES
WERE THEY BASED WERE NOT YET AT
THE DISCUSSION AROUND THE AT A
STATE FACILITIES BUT WE DID HEAR
FROM.
TERRY KERN IN THAT.
WE.
THAT WERE.
A LITTLE OFF TIMELINE IN TERMS
OF OUR INTENTION TO.
TO BRING.
INMATES HOME.
WERE YOUR PROJECTIONS BASED ON.
OUR CAN A CONTINUING TO HAVE THE
SAME LEVEL OF EIGHT THOUSAND
FOLKS AT A STATE OR NOT.
I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY
TO BE ABLE PROPERLY ANSWER THAT.
I'D I WOULDN'T WANT HER TO SIRI
KERN INTO YOU.
HEARD LIVE IS THE FOUR THOUSAND
NUMBER THAT SECRETARY CURRENT
REFERENCE FORTY FOUR HUNDRED.
IS THE CAPACITY OUT THERE IS
THE NUMBER THAT WE'VE BEEN
PRETTY STEADY ADMINISTRATORS ON
IN MISSISSIPPI OR ITS VOTES YES.
YOUR OTHER WORDS THE PROJECTIONS
ARE BASED ON NOT MOVING ANYBODY
OUT OF ARIZONA OR MRS.
THE ORIGINAL PROJECTIONS ASSUMED
THAT IT WAS GOING TO COME DOWN
PRETTY SIGNIFICANT VERSUS WHAT
WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING SO WE HOPE
TO ACCELERATE THE TAKE DOWN OF
BOTH OUT OF STATE FACILITIES.
THE LATEST PROJECTIONS ARE BASED
ON THE NEW NUMBERS WERE SAYING
ARE TO DELAY THE TAKE DOWN OF
THE SECOND AT A STATE FACILITY
BY ABOUT A YEAR. SO AROUND THE
FALL OF TWENTY NINETEEN WE
EXPECTED THAT SECOND AT A STATE
FACILITY DOWN AND BE OUT OF OUR
STATE BEDS ENTIRELY.
BECAUSE OUR DISCUSSION LAST YEAR
WAS THAT WE WOULD BE OUT OF.
MISSISSIPPI.
AS OF.
FALL OF TWENTY SEVENTY.
P. THE GOAL.
WHICH IS AGAINST LOW THAT WE
BRING THEM BACK BECAUSE OF KEPT
POP.
THEY WERE DOING BUSINESS WITH
SORRY IT'S.
CORRECT CORRECT IT SO BUT WHAT
ARE HEARINGS LAST YEAR THEY
PROJECTION WAS THAT WE WOULD
HAVE THE FOLKS THAT ARE NOW
HOUSED IN MISSISSIPPI. NO LONGER
HOUSE THERE AS OF LAST FALL.
YEAH WE HAVE NOT SEEN THOSE
REDUCTIONS YAHOO WE WERE
ANTICIPATING AT THE TIME
MATERIALIZE THAT THE JAN TEN.
RELEASE ASSUMES THAT WE ARE OUT
OF THAT MISSISSIPPI FACILITY BY
THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO BY JUNE THIRTIETH AT WHICH
POINT WILL IMMEDIATELY PIVOT TO
STARTING THE TAKE DOWN OF OUR
ARIZONA FACILITY IN JULY.
SO I I DO APPRECIATE THAT
OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAVE
INCREASED POPULATION OR OUT OF
CONTROL EACH IS DIFFICULT AS
THE.
.
TO YOU KNOW IN THE COMMITTEE
THAT WE WERE AT THAT WE'RE GIVEN
INFORMATION LAST YEAR AND AGAIN
I'M NOT TRYING TO ADVICE THAT
YOU. GIVE US A. YOU CHANGE THE
WAY YOU INFORM US BUT RATHER.
WE'RE OPERATING FROM THE POINT
OF VIEW THAT WE WOULD HAVE THOSE
FOLKS.
OUT BY THIS FALL AND NOW. WERE
FOUND.
INFORMED THAT THAT WOULD NOT
OCCUR UNTIL NEXT FALL
POTENTIALLY AND FISCAL YEAR.
MAYBE SUMMER.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT COULD NOT
HAPPEN JUST IN THE SAME WAYS
LAST YEAR SO I EAT MY POINT IS I
WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO.
I BEGAN DELVE DEEPER INTO WHAT
IS IT THAT WE NEED TO DO WHERE
WHERE ARE THE FACTORS THAT ARE
CAUSING THAT POPULATION NOT TO
BE DOWN IN THE WAYS THAT WE'D
HOPED.
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT CRIME IS
DOWN SO INDEPENDENT OF PROP
FIFTY SEVEN CRIME IS DOWN. AND
WE ALSO KNOW THAT WITH FORTY
SEVEN SINCE THINGS WERE CHANGING
AND WE KNOW THAT.
MERE ONE FOR EXAMPLE IS NOW
LEGAL IN THE STATE DO THE VOTERS
OUR OWN PASSAGE.
SO YOU KNOW JUST ON A HOST OF
THINGS.
THERE THERE SHOULD JUST
NATURALLY BEING A POPULATION
REDUCTION.
THAT WERE NOT SEEN THE
POPULATION REDUCTION WE ARE
SEEING IS DUE TO THE VERY ACT OF
WORK THAT WE'VE DONE BUT THERE'S
OTHER FACTORS THAT SHOULD JUST
NATURALLY BRING IT DOWN SO FIT
ISN'T WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THOSE.
I DO ASSURE YOU HOWEVER.
THAT IT REMAINS A PRIORITY FOR
THE DEPARTMENT AND THE
ADMINISTRATION TO TAKE DOWN
THOSE THAT A STATE FACILITIES SO
SOON IS THAT POPULATION WILL
ALLOW IT THAT IS THAT IS STILL
AT THE TOP OF OUR LIST.
ALRIGHT
SO IN WITHOUT OF THE FURTHER
QUESTIONS ON POPULATION
ESTIMATES.
MISTER CHAMBERS APPRECIATE YOUR
TESTIMONY AND WILL MOVE TO ISSUE
THREE THANK YOU OKAY THANKS SO
MUCH AT THE STATE CORRECTIONAL
FACILITIES WHICH YOU KNOW LIKE A
CANARY THAT DID MY TOE INTO THIS
POOL ALREADY.
AS YOU LIKELY KNOW IRITIS DE
FACILITIES ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED
AT ABOUT SEVENTY FIVE MILLION
DOLLARS IN CURRENT YEAR.
I MENTIONED THE TIMELINE THAT
WE HAVE
COULD IN JAN TEN WHICH JUST TO
REMIND YOU IS TO. TAKE DOWN
ENTIRELY ONE OF THE OUT OF STATE
FACILITIES BY THE END OF THIS
FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN BEGIN THE
TAKE OUT OF THAT SECOND FACILITY
IN JULY OF TWENTY EIGHTEEN.
WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE
WILL TAKE DOWN ALL OUT OF STATE
BEDS BY THE FALL OF TWENTY
NINETEEN.
I AM JOINED BY JENNIFER BERETTA
WHO IS OUR ASSISTANT DEPUTY
DIRECTOR WITHIN OUR DIVISION OF
ADULTINSTITUTIONS. I'M NOT SURE
WHAT ELSE MISS BARRETTO CAN ADD
AT THIS POINT BUT.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT
OUR OUT OF STATE.
CERTAINLY.
GO AHEAD AND CENTER BILL. FRIST
THE VIOLATES THE LAW THAT WE
HAVE.
AROUND MISSISSIPPI MISSISSIPPI
AND TENNESSEE.
WE POINTED OUT LAST YEAR.
APPRECIATE WE CONSTRUCTIVELY
OBEYED THE LAW.
BECAUSE.
SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT.
MORNING. JENNIFER PROTOSTARS AND
DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
JENNIFER BROUGHT ASSISTANT
DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR DIVISION OF
ADULT INSTITUTIONS THANK YOU FOR
HAVING ME HERE TODAY. WE ARE
ACTIVELY BRINGING INMATES BACK
FROM MISSISSIPPI ALTHOUGH TOOK
LONGER THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED
WE DO FULLY ANTICIPATE BRINGING
THE MISSISSIPPI AND MEETS BACKED
BY JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
I'M.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE CLEARLY A
HEARD NOT ONLY TODAY BUT IN THE
PAST THAT IS A VERY STRONG AND.
WELL THAT'S.
IT'S NOT ONLY THE LAW BUT IS
WHAT WE EXPECT AND SO WE
APPRECIATE AND LOOK FORWARD TO
THAT BEING ACHIEVED BY JUNE.
WHAT I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THEM?
THE.
COURT ORDERED THAT INDICATES
THAT.
I'VE YOU KNOW WE CAN ONLY HAVE
A LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT A
STATE AND SOME OF THE RATIONALE
FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE
DISTANCE.
.
FROM THE WHERE WE HOUSE THEM AND
THEIR.
SOUP THEIR SUPPORT NETWORKS
WHETHER FAMILY OR OTHER.
AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD NOTE
ABOUT THAT IS IF WE LOOK AT THE
ARIZONA FACILITY. THAT ITS
ACTUALLY CLOSER TOO MANY OF THE
FAMILIES OF SOME OF OUR
INCARCERATED THEN FOR EXAMPLE
PELICAN BAY.
AND I. I BELIEVE IT IF SO ANYWAY
AND AND IS.
A NOT ONLY CLOSER BUT ALSO MORE
EXCESSIVE BOWL DUE TO OTHER
FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION BESIDE
YOU PERSONALLY DRIVING TO GET
THERE.
THEN FOR EXAMPLE PELICAN BAY IN
THAT MAY BE TRUE OF A NUMBER OF
OTHER OTHER IN STATE FACILITIES.
SO ITS KIND OF IRONIC THAT.
WE.
IN IN MOVING PEOPLE FROM OUT OF
STATE MEANING SPECIFICALLY
ARIZONA THAT WE WOULD BE
POTENTIALLY MOVING THEM TO
SOMEWHERE THAT IS QUITE MUCH
MORE DISTANT.
AND A MORE DIFFICULT TO GET TO
FOR IS SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF
THE THINGS WE MAY WANT TO
CONSIDER. AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN.
AND STILL ARE CHEATING OUR
POPULATION REDUCTIONS.
ANDERSON.
THANK YOU.
WE LIVE IN A HUGE STATE NO WAY
YES WE DO HAVE A VERY LARGE
STATE YES.
ALRIGHT SO WE'LL MOVE THEN. TO
ISSUE FOR THE INSTITUTION
STAFFING NEEDS AND.
I BELIEVE AND THIS FOR A YEAR
OR.
.
PART OF THAT DISCUSSION SO.
THINK YOU THE ADDITIONAL
INSTITUTIONS STAFFING POSITIONS
PROVIDE THE REQUIRED PEACE
OFFICER STAFFING FOR SELECT
ADULT INSTITUTIONS.
NECESSARY FOR THE SECURITY
COVERAGE FOR MEDICAL AND MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT EVER IN THE
POPULATION AS WELL AS
PROGRAMMING.
THE STAFFING NEEDS WERE NOT
PREVIOUSLY KNOWN OR IDENTIFIED
IN PREVIOUS STAFFING REVIEWS.
THE RESOURCES ARE REQUIRE TO
OPERATE THESE NEW PROGRAMS
SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE THE HEALTH
CARE FACILITY IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT. AND WHEN WE HAD DONE
THE STAFFING ASSESSMENT FOR
THOSE THAT WERE BASED ON PAPER
BLUEPRINTS.
NOW THAT THE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN
CONSTRUCTED WE'VE REALIZED
THERE'S ADDITIONAL STAFFING
NEEDS IN ORDER PROVIDE THE
SECURITY REQUIRED FOR THAT
MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT AREA WILL YOU BE
SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT WE WERE TOLD
BY SECRETARY KERN IN THAT FOR
EXAMPLE FOR THAT FACILITY A
HUNDRED AND FIFTY OF. OF THE
POSITIONS THAT IN THE OVER SIX
HUNDRED NEW STAFF WERE
JANITORIAL.
WHAT OTHER POSITIONS?
THIS PACKAGE IS SPECIFIC TORQUE
CUSTODY STOPPING THE PORTIONS
THAT PROVIE THE SUPERVISION TO
THE INMATES
FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT.
THE PORTION THAT THE SECRETARY
SPOKE TO IS SEPARATE FROM NOW ON
AND IT SPECIFIC TO THE
JANITORIAL STAFF BEING AT
ANOTHER INCIDENT WHICH NUMBER
YOU TALKING
SO.
OUR OVERALL REQUEST IS THIRTY
ONE POINT SIX POSITIONS AND FOUR
POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.
MY APOLOGIES
RIGHT.
SO THIS PROVIDES THE ADDITIONAL
STAFFING FOR THOSE HEALTH CARE
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AREAS.
ALSO IN EXPANSION OF VOA
PROGRAMMING AREAS SPECIFICALLY
AT.
AT THE CALIFORNIA INSTITUTION
FOR MEN WE HAD A NEED TO
ACTIVATE AN ADDITIONAL STAFF
MEMBER AS WE ACTIVATED INMATE
PROGRAMS IN AN AREA THAT DID NOT
HAVE ANY CASTILLO CUSTODIAL
SUPERVISION.
IN ADDITION THAT WE HAVE A
PROGRAM EXPANSIONS IN OTHER
AREAS THAT WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY
KNOWN.
AND ON THIRD WATCH PROGRAM WHEN
WE HAVE A NEED FOR AN
UNSCHEDULED EMERGENCY MEDICAL
TRANSPORT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY
REQUIRES US TO DIVERT IS
EXISTING CUSTODY STAFF TO
PERFORM THE TRANSPORT.
AND THAT ULTIMATELY RESULTS AND
IMPACT IN ME PROGRAM.
SO IN THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE THE
HIGHEST VOLUME WE ARE INCREASING
THE STAFFING THEIR TO ENSURE
THAT THE INMATES TO NOT LOSE
THEIR PROGRAMMING OPPORTUNITY.
BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE.
RETURNS THE LA O. BECAUSE I I
DIDN'T.
ASK THEM IF THEY HAD ANY
COMMENTS ON THE.
OUT OF STATE FACILITIES
QUESTION BUT SINCE IT'S A
POPULATION QUESTION IN THE
INSTITUTION STAFFING NEEDS AN
EFFECTOR PARTLY A POPULATION
QUESTIONS ALSO WAY.
AS YOU INDICATED THAT.
CHANGING FACILITIES BUT CAITLYN
ON YOU KNOW WHAT TE LA
SHOW. WE DON'T RAISE CONCERNS
ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION'S
PROJECTIONS FOR THE IMPACT OF
PROPOSITION FIFTY SEVEN ON THE
INMATE POPULATION. HOWEVER WE
THINK THAT THE POPULATION
DECLINES AT THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION IS PROJECTING. UP
PRESENT THE LEGISLATURE WITH THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER
ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF
ACCOMMODATING THAT DECLINE
BESIDES REMOVING ALL INMATES
FROM OUT OF STATE CONTRACT
FACILITIES.
WE FIND THAT INSTEAD OF DOING
THAT CDC ARE COULD CLOSE A STATE
PRISON AND STILL MAKE A
SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE HOT
A STATE CONTRACT POPULATION BY
CLOSING THE MISSISSIPPI
FACILITY.
HOWEVER TO ME IN THE TEAM THE
SAME LEVEL OF OVER OVERCROWDING
IN OUR STATE OWNED AND OPERATED
PRISONS AS WOULD BE RICH
ACHIEVED UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S
PLAN.
THE STATE WOULD NEED TO MAINTAIN
THE ARIZONA CONTRACT.
A ONE POSSIBLE PRISON TO CLOSE
WOULD BE THE CALVET CALIFORNIA
REHABILITATION CENTER IN NORCO.
GIVEN THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
HAS PROPOSED CLOSING IN THE PAST
DUE TO ITS DETERIORATING
INFRASTRUCTURE AND AT THAT TIME.
ESTIMATED IT WOULD COST OVER A
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO FULLY
RENOVATE.
WE ESTIMATE DOT CLOSING THAT
PRISON AND REMOVING INMATES FROM
THE MISSISSIPPI CONTRACT
FACILITY.
WAY TO EVENTUALLY RESULT IN
ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS
OF ANNUAL ON GOING SAVINGS IN
ADDITION TO THE SAVINGS THAT
WOULD BE RESULTING FROM THE
GOVERNOR'S WOULD RESULT IN THE
GOVERNOR'S PLAN.
HOWEVER IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT I IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE
SAVINGS UNDER OUR PROPOSAL COULD
BE TEMPORARILY LESSEN THE
SAVINGS I'D BE ACHIEVED UNDER
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL
SPECIFICALLY. DURING THE PERIOD
THAT THE PRISON IS BEING CLOSED
HOWEVER IN THE LONG TERM YOU'D
EXPECT ARE THE SAVINGS UNDER OUR
PROPOSAL TO GREATLY EXCEED THOSE
THAT WOULD BE INJURED ACHIEVED
UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN.
SO WE RECOMMEND THE LEGISLATURE
CONSIDER DIRECTING CDC ARE TO
CLOSE THIER SEE.
AND TO REMOVE INMATES FROM THE
MISSISSIPPI FACILITY.
INSTEAD OF CLOSING BOTH OF THE
ODYSSEY CONTRACT FACILITIES.
IF THE LEGISLATURE DECIDES TO
CLOSE CRC. WE RECOMMEND
DIRECTING CDC ARE TO PROVIDE IT
WITH A PLAN ON THE CLOSURE OF%
THE PRISON. IF IT DECIDES NOT TO
CLOSE YOUR SEE WE RECOMMEND
DIRECTING THE DEPARTMENT TO
PROVIDE IT WITH. A PLAN TO ME
NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE
IMPROVEMENTS AT THE PRISON.
I AND THEN. I'D BE HAPPY TO IF
THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME
MADAM CHAIR RESPOND TO ONE OF
THE COMMENTS THAT SECRETARY KERN
AND MADE.
ABOUT THAT COURT ORDER
NECESSITATING ARE. NECESSITATING
REMOVAL OF INMATES FROM OUT OF
STATE.
I'M BEFORE YOU DO.
COULD YOU.
.
COULD YOU STATE AGAIN.
WHAT GIVEN THAT POPULATION
NUMBERS ARE NOT? A.
AT THE LEVEL THAT WE HAD HOPED
HER WORDS PROJECTED THAT HOW WE
WOULD ACHIEVE.
THE POPULATION REDUCTION THAT
WOULD ENABLE US
TO CLOSE NORCO AND.
.
ELIMINATE THE FOLKS THAT ARE
HOUSE NOW IN MISSISSIPPI.
SURE.
THE ADMINISTRATION IS CURRENTLY
PROJECTING THAT PROPOSITION
FIFTY SEVEN WILL REDUCE THE
INMATE POPULATION BY ABOUT FIVE
THOUSAND INMATES.
BY TWENTY TWENTY ONE RELATIVE
TO THE CURRENT YEAR LEVEL.
AND MISSISSIPPI WE WE THINK THAT
THAT THAT DECLINE IS ENOUGH TO.
A.
REMOVE THE THOUSAND OR SO
INMATES FROM THE MISSISSIPPI
FACILITY AS WELL AS TO CLOSE
YOUR SI WHICH.
HAS A. A WHICH ALLOWS US TO
HOUSE ABOUT THIRTY FOUR HUNDRED
INMATES.
UNDER THE COURT ORDER GIVEN ITS
DESIGN CAPACITY.
I'M.
AND.
YEAH BUT NOT ARIZONA RIGHT.
I AND I'M NOT SURE MISTER LOPEZ
IF YOU KNOW THIS BUT PERHAPS
SECRETARIES KERN AND AND OR YOU
COULD GIVE US THIS INFORMATION
LATER BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE.
.
IN THE BUDGET REQUEST IS FUNDS
FOR. WE HAVE LEAKING ROOFS WE
HAVE OTHER LEGITIMATE.
THINGS THAT NEED TO BE
INFRASTRUCTURE.
HOW MUCH OF THOSE BUDGET ASKS
ARE FOR NOR NORCO? HERE SEE.
NONE OF THE CURRENT PROPOSALS
AND ALL CRC SO WE ARE ACTUALLY
IN THE MIDST OF GOING THROUGH AN
ASSESSMENT OF OUR TWELVE ALL
THIS FACILITIES THAT WILL
PROBABLY SOUND FAMILIAR FROM
LAST YEAR.
SO WE RATHER RECEIVE THE
FUNDING TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS
ASSESSMENT AND THE RESULTS OF
THAT ASSESSMENT ARE DUE AT THE
END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR SO BY
THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
.
I NO THE HUNDRED MILLION NUMBER
IS THROWN OUT THERE OFTEN.
AS AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT WOULD
TAKE TO BRING CRC UP TO
STANDARDS BUT OF THIS MORE
FORMAL ASSESSMENT I THINK WILL
GIVE US A BETTER IDEA WHAT IT
WILL ACTUALLY COST AND AGAIN
WE'LL HAVE THAT AT THE END OF
THE YEAR.
SO RIGHT NOW NONE OF THE.
REQUESTS FOR EITHER CAP A
CAPITAL OR. ITS MOST CAPITAL BUT
OTHER COSTS FOR.
MAINTENANCE IN HIM AND FIXING OF
FACILITIES HAVE RELATES TO
NORCO.
RIGHT NONE OF THE FORMAL
PROPOSALS IN JANTAN AND THAT'S
IN LINE WITH.
THE DIRECTION WE'VE RECEIVED.
FROM YOURSELVES TO SOME EXTENT
AND ALSO FROM HER COLLEAGUES IN
THE ASSEMBLY WAS.
.
WE DON'T WANNA SEE THAT
APARTMENT SINKING MONEY INTO A
FACILITY THAT MAYBE WE'RE NOT
GOING TO BE OCCUPYING A HIGH IN
THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE SO WE'RE
TRYING TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT
USING THOSE LIMITED RESOURCES
THAT WE HAVE FOR THESE.
STRUCTURAL ISSUES THAT WE FACE
AT OUR PRISONS AND HOW WE
PRIORITIZE THOSE THAT ARE ON ON
MORE SOLID GROUND I GUESS IS
MAYBE I EXPLAIN IT.
BETTER SHAPE.
ALRIGHT NAM.
NOW. LA ARE YOU WANTED TO
APOLOGIES COMMENT ON WHAT WAS
THE ADDITIONAL ELECT A SIGH
SOMETHING THAT SECRETARY KERN IN
REFERENCE GO AHEAD CRACKED AND.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE
NOT AWARE OF THE COURT ORDER
REQUIRING THE STATE ELIMINATE
THE USE OF OUT OF STATE CONTRACT
FACILITIES.
HOWEVER THE COURT HAS ORDERED
THE STATE TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE
LEVELS OF HEALTH CARE TO ITS
INMATES AND BECAUSE HERE SEE WAS
SLATED FOR CLOSURE IN THE PAST
THAT DID NOT RECEIVE A HEALTH
CARE FACILITY IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT AS MOST OTHER PRISONS
HAVE.
AND NOT W. ENOUGH FEBRUARY TWO
THOUSAND FOURTEEN COURT ORDER
THAT SECRETARY KERN AND I
BELIEVE WAS REFERENCING THE
COURT SAID DEFENDANT'S HOUSE FOR
WAYS TO ATTEMPT TO REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF INMATES HOUSING OUT OF
STATE FACILITIES TO THE EXTENT
FEASIBLE.
AND SINCE THAT FEBRUARY TWENTY
FOURTEEN ORDER THE STATE'S
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF INMATES IN
OUT OF STATE FACILITIES BY MORE
THAN HALF. AND BY REMOVING
INMATES FROM THE MISSISSIPPI
FACILITY WOULD WE WOULD STE
CONTINUE TO BE MAKING THAT A
SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN OUT OF
STATE POPULATION.
I IN LESS THE POPULATION
DECREASES UNEXPECTEDLY BEYOND
WHAT PROJECTIONS HAVE BEEN
PROVIDED BY THE ADMINISTRATION
AT THIS POINT THE STATE WOULD.
.
WOULD NEED TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT A
INVESTMENTS INFRASTRUCTURE
INVESTMENTS TO CONTINUE TO
OPERATE FIERCELY IN THE LONG
TERM.
TO CLARIFY I BELIEVE THE
SECRETARY'S INTENT IN MAKING
THAT COMMENT WAS.
THAT IN THE COURT SIZE AS LONG
AS WERE OCCUPYING OUT OF STATE
BEDS THEY DON'T SEE US AS
ACHIEVING THAT SUSTAINABLE
SOLUTION THAT WE'RE ALL AFTER IN
ORDER TO GET OUT FROM COURT
OVERSIGHT I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE
WAS REFERRING TO.
ALRIGHT APPRECIATE BOTH
CLARIFICATIONS.
ON.
.
NO OTHER DISCUSSION BY MY
COLLEAGUES WILL MOVE TO AND.
ISSUE FIVE
WHICH IS THE HOUSING UNIT
CONVERSIONS.
OKAY.
IN ORDER TO HOUSE OUR EVER
CHANGING OFFENDER POPULATION
THAT WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THIS MORNING THE
DEPARTMENT REGULARLY MAKES
ADJUSTMENTS OR HOUSING UNITS
WITHIN OUR THIRTY FIVE ADULT
INSTITUTIONS.
TOWARD THIS END JAN TEN
INCLUDES ACTIVATIONS
DEACTIVATIONS AND CONVERSIONS.
OF THESE DIFFERENT HOUSING UNITS
RESULTING IN A CURRENT YEAR
REDUCTION OF EIGHT POINT SIX
MILLION AND SIXTY ONE POINT TWO
POSITIONS. AND A BUDGET YEAR
INCREASE OF FOURTEEN POINT FIVE
MILLION AND A HUNDRED AND FIVE
POSITIONS.
I'M AGAIN JOINED BY MISS BRENDA
FROM THE DIVISION OF ADULT
INSTITUTIONS AND WE'D BE HAPPY
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE
ABOUT THAT PROPOSAL. THANK YOU
THE SPREAD OF PRES
RECEIPT BY HOUSING UNIT
CONVERSIONS ARE PLANNED
ACTIVATIONS AND DEACTIVATIONS OF
IN MAY HOUSING.
THESE ARE ALL BASED ON OUR BED
PLAN OUR OVERALL STRATEGY OF HOW
BEST TO ACCOMMODATE THE CHANGES
IN THE INMATE POPULATION
DYNAMIC.
WHILE STAYING WITHIN OUR
OVERCROWDING STANDARD AND
POPULATION CAPS THAT BY THE
THREE JUDGE PANEL. THERE'S MANY
FACTORS WE CONSIDERING BUILDING
A BAD PLAN. WE CONSIDER THE
POPULATION PROJECTIONS THE
TRENDS.
WE ALSO ACCOUNT FOR SPECIALTY
HOUSING REQUIREMENTS FOR INMATE
POPULATION TO INCLUDE THE
POPULATION TRENDS FOR THE
ENHANCED OUT PATIENT PROGRAMMER
MENTAL HEALTH AND MEETS.
WE ALSO CONSIDER OUR SECURITY
LEVELS.
ASSIGNING AND MEETS WITHIN THOSE
VARYING LEVELS BASED ON THE
MANAGEMENT OF THE SAFETY AND
SECURITY OF THE FELONS.
WHICH INCLUDES CONSIDERING
GENERAL POPULATION SENSITIVE
NEED CHARTS PLACEMENT.
WE ALSO ACCOUNT FOR THE
AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING. AND
ACCOMMODATIONS FOR ADA INMATES
WHO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL HOUSING
ACCOMMODATIONS WITH AND THOSE
VARYING DYNAMICS.
WE ALSO HAVE MEDICAL
RESTRICTIONS WHICH
STRICT CERTAIN INSTITUTIONS TO
CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF OUR
POPULATION.
WE MUST ALSO CONSIDER CHANGES
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICY
WHICH ALSO AFFECT THE INMATES
AND HOW THEY CAN BE HOUSE.
MOST NOTABLY THE DEPARTMENT'S
COMMITMENT TO HOUSE INMATES AND
LESS RESTRICTIVE HOUSING
ENVIRONMENTS HAS RESULTED IN
OUR.
CHANGING OF RESTRICTIVE HOUSING
INTO MORE GENERAL POPULATION
SIGHTINGS.
AND LAST WE HAVE TEMPORARY
FACILITY MODIFICATIONS THAT TAKE
PLACE AND THIS PLAN WE HAVE A
CURRENT MODIFICATION OF CELL
DOORS AT THE DUAL VOCATIONAL
INSTITUTION IN THE
ADMINISTRATIVE SEGREGATION UNIT.
WHICH RESULTED IN THAT UNIT
BEING CLOSED AND NECESSITATING
ANOTHER UNIT TO BE ACTIVATED AS
A TEMPORARY I'D SAY SETTING. IN
THEM AND TERM.
OVERALL THOSE CHANGES IN THE BED
PLAN. RESULTANT DECREASES OR
INCREASES IN THE COST OF THE
STAFFING PATTERN THAT TYPE TO
THAT SPECIFIC CHANGE.
IN GENERAL WHEN WE HAVE
ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIVE HOUSING
UNITS SETTINGS REQUIRES MORE
STAFFING WHEN WE MOVE TO MORE
GENERAL POPULATION SIGHTINGS
REQUIRES FEWER STAFFING.
THIS BAD PLAN DEMONSTRATES OUR
CHANGES WITH THE UP POPULATION
MISSION CHANGES AND THOSE
FACILITY MODIFICATIONS.
AND BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY
QUESTIONS.
I THINK MY COLLEAGUES ARE GONNA
HOLD SOME QUESTIONS TILL THE
END.
BOMB.
A.
I APPRECIATE THAT THE REDUCTION
IN BEDS.
REDUCES STAFF I'M WOULD JUST AND
NOT NECESSARILY.
NEEDING TO ANSWER BUT IT IS
JUST INTERESTING TO ME THAT WERE
REDUCING BEDS.
AND IN THIS CASE.
REDUCING STAFF IN YET OVERALL
WERE INCREASING THEY REQUEST
ANYWAYS TO INCREASE STAFF BY SIX
HUNDRED SO. JUST NOTE THAT A
THAT WILL REMAIN SOMEWHAT
PROBLEMATICAL FOR HER BABY AND
THAT WE WILL.
CONTINUE TO RETURN TO THAT
DISCUSSION AS WE PROCEED.
GIVEN THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR.
A CORRECTIONS.
BUDGET WE KNOW THAT IT'S A.
AND. I'M GONNA SAY APPROXIMATE
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
THE WHOLE THING IN FRONT ME BIT
PROXIMALLY SEVEN BILLION OF IT
ARE SO IS JUST DOES STAFF AND
BENEFITS.
AND THEN THERE'S ABOUT THREE
BILLION IN OUR HEALTH CARE.
COSTS.
IN THEN A VERY SMALL PORTION
WHICH ONE WOULD VERY. INDICATE
IS THE ACTUAL.
A.
THE SAUDIS AND THE THE PROVISION
OF ANY OF FOOD AND OTHER.
THINGS THE OPERATION OF THE
FACILITIES BEYOND WHEN I MEAN
OPERATION MORE LIKE THE.
UTILITIES THE.
.
MAY NITS.
THAT SORT OF THING SO THAT'S A
VERY SMALL SMALL PROPORTION OF
OUR TOTALS CORRECTIONS BUDGET SO
CLEARLY ANY INCREASES IN STAFF
ARE THE THING THAT WE HAVE TO
MONITOR THE MOST BECAUSE IT IS
THE LION SHARE. OF THE
EXPENDITURES IN THE CDC ARE
BUDGET.
IT NOT ON THE RECORD CRUSH.
SOME.
ALRIGHT SO WE WILL MOVE TO
ISSUE.
SIX WHICH IS THE OFFICE OF
RESEARCH RESOURCES.
OKAY WHO ARE WITH THIS FINAL
ISSUE THAT DEPARTMENT AND
REQUEST SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE
THOUSAND AND SIX POSITIONS
WITHIN OUR OFFICE OF RESEARCH.
TO RESEARCH POSITIONS ONE
INFORMATION A SYSTEMS ANALYST
POSITION.
TO A. GPAS AND ONE OFFICE
TECHNICIAN AND MISTER CHAMBERS
FROM OUR OFFICE OF RESEARCH IS
GOING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE
DETAIL BEHIND THE PROPOSAL AND
THEN WE'LL. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU CHRIS CHAMBERS AGAIN.
OF THE OFFICE OF RESEARCH
FUNCTIONS AS THE DEPARTMENTS
RESEARCH ARM AND SERVES
PRIMARILY AS A PRIMARY DATA
PROVIDER FOR INTERNAL AND
EXTERNAL CC OUR CLIENTS.
IN RECENT YEARS A STATUS
UNDERGONE DRAMATIC CHANGE IN
PRISON REFORM AND MANDATED
POPULATION REDUCTION MEASURES.
REALIGNMENT PROP THIRTY SIX
47-57 TO NAME A FEW.
THIS CHANGES LEAD TO AN
INCREASED INTEREST IN DEMAND AND
ALL AREAS FOR CORRESPONDING
DATA.
WHILE THERE HAS BEEN A NEAR
SIXTY PERCENT INCREASE IN RECENT
YEARS FOR SPECIALIZED REQUEST
WHICH EQUATES.
APPROXIMATELY FORTY PERCENT OF
THE OFFICE OF RESEARCH HAS
OVERALL WORKLOAD. IT HAS BEEN NO
CORRESPONDING INCREASE TO
POSITION ALLOCATIONS AND BUDGET.
THIS AUGMENTATION WOULD ALLOW
THE OFFICE OF RESEARCH TO MAKE
SIGNIFICANT STRIDES TOWARDS
COMPLETING CRITICAL WORKLOAD.
IN CLOSING GAPS IN TERMS OF
PROVIDING INFORMATION PACK
QUICKLY.
FOR THAT PURPOSE WE HAVE
REQUESTED SIX PERMANENT
POSITIONS.
AND SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE
THOUSAND DOLLARS TO ADDRESS OUR
ONGOING WORKLOAD INCREASE.
THESE POSITIONS ARE RESEARCH
SPECIALISTS GENERAL ANALYSTS IN
ONE IT CLASSIFICATION.
THESE POSITIONS REPRESENT AN
ACROSS THE BOARD NEED TO PROVIDE
RESEARCH AND ANALYTICS DATA
COLLECTION.
GENERAL DATA ANALYSIS
PREPARATION AND MOST PORTLY
QUALITY REVIEW.
WHILE OUR BCP NOTED ABOUT TWO
HUNDRED DATA REQUEST EACH MONTH
WHAT WE HAVE WITNESSED OVER THE
LAST FOUR MONTHS IS ACTUALLY.
EVEN A LARGER INCREASE STEVEN
NOW AVERAGING TWO HUNDRED.
IN FIFTY
REQUEST PER MONTH THIS IS.
I ESSENTIALLY BELIEVE A SIXTY
TWO POINT FOUR PERCENT OVERALL
INCREASE.
THIS P. Y. AUGMENTATION WILL
ENABLE US TO PROVIDE MORE
EXPEDITIOUS RESPONSES AND ALSO
TO DELVE FURTHER INTO THE
MEANING IN INTERRELATION THE
DATA.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW MANY
OF T. E. DOES THE OFFICE OF
RESEARCH NOW HAVE.
I'M POSITIONS WE HAVE.
THE SEVEN POINT FIVE.
OF WHICH THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
VACANCIES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY
TRYING TO ADDRESS YEAH I IN
FILLING WITH THE HIRING PLAN.
THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE COMPLETED
BY THE SUMMER.
AND WHEN YOU DESCRIBE THESE A
EXTERNAL DATA REQUESTS.
.
THERE'S NO OTHER ENTITY THAT CAN
FULFILL THESE.
DATA REQUESTS.
AND AND ALSO LIKE TO.
EXTERNAL ENTITIES MEANING.
THERE CAN BE SOME MORE
INFORMATION HERE.
YEAH WHO'S ASKING FOR IT AND SO
THESE ARE WE ARE WERE IS THIS
THE ONLY OFFICE THAT CAN PROVIDE
IT.
I AYE WILL DEFERRED TO HIS THAT
PEACE EXAMPLES SO WE HAVE WE
HAVE. EVERYTHING COMING FROM
AGENCIES COMING FROM.
.
THE SENATE.
NOW WE HAVE THINGS FROM ASSEMBLY
FROM FINANCE.
NOW FROM LA OUTLET. NOT TO NOT
TO CALL OUT ON ANYONE THAT'S
HERE. BUT.
WE HAVE BEEN INCREASE IN AN
OVERALL PR RACE THAT ARE COMING
INTO THIS OFFICE WE HAVE. YURI'S
BEING STORY BID UP PUBLIC
REQUEST OKAY OKAY.
YEAH I'LL WE HAVE A LOT OF
INTERNAL OPERATIONAL NEED TO BE
ABLE TO GO BACK AND. PROVIDE A
EVERYTHING ESSENTIALLY THAT
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. WITH
RESEARCH AND DATA BASE
DECISIONS.
SELL IT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE SEEN
IS JUST AN ACROSS THE BOARD
INCREASE IN OUR QUESTION HAS
NOT.
PACIFIC A FROM ANYONE. A GROUP
IN PARTICULAR IS FROM EVERYONE.
THESE COME FROM STATE
UNIVERSITIES.
AS THEY COME FROM IN PRIVATE.
INDIVIDUALS.
JUST TO GET BACK TO YOUR. AYE
MAY MANAGERS ARE INTERNALLY
FOREIGN FINANCE GO AHEAD. I JUST
WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OTHER
SPECIALIZED A DATA THAT THEY'RE
LOOKING AT.
THAT THE REQUEST COME TO THE
OFFICE OF RESEARCH BECAUSE THEY
HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY FAMILIAR
WITH. THAT THE SONGS DATA FOR
EXAMPLE AND HOW TO INTERPRET IT
HOW TO DETERMINE WITH OTHER
ERRORS IN DATA COLLECTION IT'S
VERY SPECIALIZED VERY CRITICAL
AND I DO BELIEVE.
AND IT MOST SUITED FOR THE
OFFICE OF RESEARCH WITHIN THE
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS I
BELIEVE THEY HAD ACTUALLY. TRIED
TO CONTRACT OUT FOR SOME OF THIS
WORK WITH MIT AND OTHERS AND
THEY WERE UNABLE TO DO THAT I
THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO BE
MIT WAS TOO FAR AWAY I HAD.
GOTTEN NOT IS HEARING COULD
RESTRICTIONS. IN CALIFORNIA.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WITH REALLY LOOKING AT.
ADDRESSING AND MAKING SURE THAT
THESE POPULATION REDUCTION OTHER
MEASURES ARE TAKING TO A FACT
AND. HAVING TO LOOK AT THIS DATA
IN PLACE OF AND I SAID FOR LACK
OF A BETTER TERM IN MANY
DIFFERENT WAYS THAT IS IS BEST
SUITED FOR THE OFFICE OF
RESEARCH AS THEY ARE MOST
FAMILIAR WITH THE DATA AND HOW
TO. GATHER A CHARACTERIZE IT AND
PRESENTED BACK WITH A TO THE
INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL BEST SUIT
THEIR NEEDS.
HOW MANY VACANCIES IN THE?
WE INDICATED THERE SIXTY SEVEN
POINT FIVE FTE WHAT'S NUMBER OF
VACANCIES BUT THEY'RE CURRENTLY
ELEVEN VACANCIES.
SO MORE VACANCIES IN STAFF
YOU'RE ASKING FOR FOR THOSE WERE
FILLED MIGHT YOU BE ABLE TO.
.
SO GOING OVER ON THE U. S. TO
OUR. PLAN OVER THE LAST SIX
MONTHS WE'VE DEVELOPED A PLAN
THAT I HAS IDENTIFIED A NUMBER
OF.
DEFICIENCIES IN TERMS OF
KNOWLEDGE.
THE HIRING THAT WE ARE
CURRENTLY DOING AND CONDUCTING
THROUGH SUMMER OF THIS YEAR
WILL.
.
HELP FOR FILL THOSE GAPS.
BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS IN
ADDITION TO THAT GAPS.
THAT WE HAVE WITH WITHOUT THE
NUMBERS OF OF STAFF.
SO WILL STILL BE DEFICIENT EVEN
FILLING ALL OF THE POSITIONS
THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
RIGHT M..
NO QUESTIONS YET. YES WHAT I WAS
GOING TO DO IF IT BE I REALIZE
THAT I DIDN'T ASK FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT AFTER EACH ITEM SO I
THOUGHT PERHAPS I WOULD ALLOW.
COMMENT NOW AND THEN HAVE FIRED
MEMBERS ASKING YOU QUESTIONS TO
ANY OF OUR. OUR PRISONERS ON ANY
THE SUBJECTS
SO IF THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON
ANY OF THE ITEMS.
PLEASE JUST COME TO THE MIKE.
A THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS JOHN VOTERS.
CALIFORNIANS PERCEIVED
INJUSTICE
APPRECIATE THE INCREASE YOUR
MAKING THIS MORNING I JUST
WANTED TO. ADD ON TO WHAT THE
ELLIOTT WAS SAYING WE HAVE BEEN
DOING AN INDEPENDENT
INVESTIGATION OF OUR OWN. ON
INTO OPPORTUNITIES TO CLOSE THE
FACILITY IN CLIFORNIA WE. ARE
HIGHLY ENDORSE THAT LEO'S
RECOMMENDATION AS IT RELATES TO
CRC. HOW WE THINK THAT THERE'S A
NUMBER FACTORS THAT MAKE THAT?
THE BEST CHOICE AND WE WOULD
ALSO LIKE TO YOU ARE ENCOURAGED
YOU TO FURTHER INQUIRE TO THIS
BUDGET REVIEW PROCESS
OPPORTUNITIES.
TO TAKE SOME OF THE MONEY THAT'S
BEING PROPOSED BY THE DEPARTMENT
FOR EXPENDITURE ON MENTAL HEALTH
STAFF. AND I MAKE THAT
INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY IN
NO DIVERSION PROGRAMS TO KEEP
PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES
FROM MOM ENTERING.
CUSTODIAL ARRANGEMENTS TO BEGIN
WITH WE THINK THAT IS THE LONG
TERM SOLUTION TO ON BOTH KEEPING
THE PRISON POPULATION DOWN AND
ARE MAKING BETTER USE OF OUR
FUNDS. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
RIGHT SO MY COLLEAGUES
STIRRED CENTER NO.
A FEW QUESTIONS.
JUST.
.
I THINK OUR FULL BUDGET
COMMITTEE I ASK FOR ALL.
IT'S AN IDEA OF.
.
CRITICAL CAPITAL OF
REHABILITATION NEEDS OF THE.
.
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.
AND NOW THE BUDGET THE BUDGET
NOW TELL ME IF I'M WRONG BUT THE
BUDGET WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT IS
THE REQUEST. ARE ARE.
.
SOME OF THE.
.
ROOF NEEDS ANOTHER NEEDS BUT YOU
HAD ANOTHER.
SEVERAL FACILITIES THAT ARE.
CURRENTLY HAVING.
CRITICAL PROBLEMS IN THAT AREA
IS THAT CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT
SO OF.
IT SEEMS IT I DON'T KNOW IT
SEEMS TO ME THAT. WITH BUDGET
SURPLUS IN.
IT'S KIND OF JUST GENERAL.
NEED THAT'S EXISTING NOW WORTH
ROOF LEAKING AND YOU KNOW
SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SUE US
PRETTY SOON IF WE DON'T DO
ANYTHING. SINCE THEN OUR IS
SEEMS TO ME THAT.
.
USING SOME OF THE ONE TIME FUNDS
THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IN THE
BUDGET. IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
THAT WE SHOULD TO FIX IT TYPE
PROJECTS.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DEAL MANY WAY
SOMETIME.
AND.
.
I I WANNA KNOW.
.
WAS THAT AN OPTION THAT YOU
CONSIDER HER WHAT HAPPENED.
BECAUSE I THINK THIS A VERY
LOGICAL THING TO DO IS THAT KIND
OF ALL.
OF A FIX IT BROUGHT THE FIX IT
PROJECTS SHOULD BE.
EMPHASIZE NOW.
BECAUSE THEY GET WORSE LATER.
THEY DON'T GET BETTER.
THEY GET WORSE.
INTERCEPTED SPEND MORE MONEY AND
THEN YOU HAVE MORE PROBLEMS
WITH.
STEM SPENDING MONEY ON A ROOFER
YOU SPEND MONEY ON A LAWYER.
DON'T PUT AWAY IN A MOMENT.
SO THAT'S A QUESTION FOR.
I'M AFRAID I'M PROBABLY NOT THE
RIGHT PERSON TO ANSWER THAT AS
THOROUGHLY AS YOU'RE LOOKING
FOR.
IF YOU HAD TO SAY WHAT ARE THE
ABSOLUTE FIX IT.
CRITICAL NEEDS LIKE WHEN YOU SAY
ROOF CERTAINLY CAN YOU HAVE.
ONLY SOME OF THEM IN THE BUDGET
WATER THE ROOM HOW MUCH WITH THE
REST OF.
WE THE DEPARTMENT.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS THAT
OUTSTANDING MAINTENANCE AND
REPAIRS LIST ACTUALLY EXCEEDS A
BILLION DOLLARS WHEN YOU LOOK
GLOBALLY AT OUR ENTIRE EMPIRE.
I'M GONNA LET THE GUY. OR THE.
OTHER WAY OR OTHER HOUSE THAT
DONE YES SENATOR THAT WE FOUR
ROPES TEAR TO COUPLE TIMES. YES
SIR TO YOUR QUESTION I THINK WE
HAVE ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED MILLION.
IN A ROOF ISSUES ACROSS THE
SYSTEM
ON THERE IS A LIMIT ON HOW MUCH
WITH ALAN.
APPROVAL LICENSURE ARCHITECTURE
THAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS ABLE TO.
FIX IN ANY GIVEN PERIOD OF TIME
SO OUR BUDGET REQUEST IS TRYING
TO ADDRESS A PIECE OF IT.
INTO OUR CAPACITY THAT THINGS.
HOW MUCH IS IT FOR BUDGET YEAR?
DOLLAR WISE.
FIFTY OR SO MILLION.
IT SETS A CAPACITY ISSUE I THINK
WITH OUR FACILITIES MANAGEMENT
SIR IS HOW HOW MANY WE CAN FIX
IT ANYONE TIME IN THE MACHINE
THAT IS.
HOME AGAIN ARCHITECTURE
LICENSURE.
FIRE MARSHAL IN GETTING THE
ACTUAL WORK DONE.
WELL.
IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT ME THAT.
WE TAKE CARE THINGS BEFORE THEY
START COSTING MORE MONEY OR OR
AND OR. SOME BUDDIES SUING US.
OF ABOUT IT OF WHICH LIKELY
MIGHT HAPPEN AFFECTS.
DRIPPING ON PEOPLE INSIDE THERE
FACILITY.
I THINK THAT WOULD SO THAT
SOMEBODY WILL.
FINALLY FILE FILE A LAWSUIT
AGAINST SO SO WE MOVED AS SIX
HUNDRED INMATES OUT OF A.
BUILDING AND TO HATCH P..
BECAUSE OF OF LEAKY ROOFS AND
AND SO THAT THAT IS GETTING
FIXED NOW BUT BUT YOUR HOW TO
PERCENT RIGHT WE'RE GONNA GET
SUED IF WE DON'T MAKE AN EFFORT
I THINK THAT THE. THAT THE
PROPOSED BUDGET REQUESTS.
PUTS A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT
FORWARD THAT I THINK I'M WILL
RELEASE HOPEFULLY. MITIGATE ANY
LEGAL ACTION AGAINST US AS
RELATES TO ROUGHS I GIVE IT
TAKES MORE THAN A YEAR TO DO ALL
THESE THINGS. LIKE YOU SEE THERE
MIGHT.
ROLL.
I DON'T KNOW.
TWO THINGS.
BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN YOU KNOW
THAT THAT TELLS ME IT'S GOTTEN
SO BAD.
HE CATCHES.
DO AN OVERLAY ON THE ROOF YOU
HAVE TO GO BACK AND.
REPAIR THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE
WATER. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT THE
FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T DO
ANYTHING.
EARLY ENOUGH TO SOLVE THAT
PROBLEM. SO GOT SO BAD.
NOW THAT'S SURPRISING I'M
TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT GETS WORSE
AND WORSE AND WORSE.
SO IT'S ALREADY GOING THAT
DIRECTION WHICH WOULD IN MY
RIGHT YOU KNOW YOU HAD A PERCENT
RICE FACILITIES ARE WE WE PATCH
WE DO OVER LAYS WE TRY TO
MAINTAIN THE EXISTING FACILITIES
TO TO THE EXTENT THAT. A
POSSIBLE IN ONLY WHEN IT IS. YOU
KNOW.
SEVERELY DAMAGED IN THAT WE
CANNOT CONTINUE TO PATCH OVER
IT.
THAT WE ASK FOR THE ADDITIONAL
RUSS I THINK IS THE HEIGHT OF
FOOLISHNESS NOT TO REPAIR. THESE
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW JUST YOU KNOW IT'S.
ILLOGICAL.
BUT.
IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN HAVE.
A PLANNER IF IT IF IT IS NOT
JUST ONE YEAR MAYBE A COUPLE
YEARS OR.
I DON'T KNOW MADAM CHAIR WE
OUGHT TO LOOK AT LEAST LOOK AT
SOME OPTIONS OKAY THAT'S ALL I'M
ASKING FOR A FEW COULD HAVE. US
AT SOME POINT A COMMITTEE LOOK
AT SOME OPTIONS FOR THE.
FIX IT PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO
DO BEFORE.
OUR FACILITIES.
BECOME AN EMBARRASSMENT WHEN.
PEOPLE START SUING US.
.
ON THE SUBJECT SO WE IT WE HAVE
A FULL MASTER PLAN BE HAPPY TO
PROVIDE FOR YOU IT'S IT'S
A BINDER.
THAT'S VERY BAG NUMBER WHO
WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT
OVERALL PLAN SHOW YOU BOTH TO
ORDER COMPETITION NOW AND WHAT
WERE ACCOMPLISHING IN THE
FUTURE.
IN FACT IN THE LETTER I M. CINCH
THE OUR RESPONSE TO THE DON
SPECTER LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED
SHOWS YOU ALL THE ROPES THAT
WE'VE BEEN FIXING. ALL ACROSS
THE SYSTEM.
I HAD ITEM ONE ONE OTHER AREAS
THIS CREDIT THE CREDITS IN THE
PROP FIFTY SEVEN.
WE ARE RAMPING UP PROP FIFTY
SEVEN AND THE GREAT SO THEY
HAVEN'T FULLY.
ROOM BEEN REFLECTED IN ACTION
ACTUAL.
.
GETTING PEOPLE TO.
.
EXITED THE STATE PRISON
FACILITIES DUE TO THE RECEIVING
OF CREDITS CORRECT.
AND ANYA IS A IN MY SAYING
SOMETHING IS NOW I THINK THAT'S
EXACTLY RIGHT. EGGS SO WE'RE
CLEAR RAMPING UP.
EL WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE A
SOMEBODY EXPLAIN HOW. THE
CREDITS THAT WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE.
WILL RAMP UP.
AND WE WILL WE WILL SEE THE
ACTUALIZATION.
OF RESULTS IN TERMS OF.
PEOPLE EXITING.
STATE PRISON BECAUSE I AS I
UNDERSTAND YOU GIVE THE CREDITS.
THEN THE PERSON HAS TO SERVE THE
REQUIRED.
STILL HAS A CERTAIN RECORD TIME.
WITH THE CREDITS A INCLUDED.
AND THEN THE EXIT.
AND I LIKE TO SEE LIKE WHAT IT
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF
THAT.
IMPACTOR RAMPING UP OF THE
CREDITS BECAUSE I I IT SEEMS
LIKE.
.
YOU KNOW WHEN WE PASSED PROP
FIFTY SEVEN. EVERYBODY EXPECTS
LIKE SOME KIND OF IMMEDIACY.
ABOUT SO ALL THIS IS GOING TO
REDUCE EVERYTHING RIGHT AWAY
BUT.
BUT I WANT TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS
IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN MORE IT WOULD
HELP ME.
I UNDERSTAND THE PRISON
POPULATION ISSUE A LITTLE BETTER
AND I THINK I TRIED TO EXPLAIN
THAT THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS YOU
HAVE. A MILESTONE CREDITS WHICH
IS FOR UP PARTICIPATING IN THE
I.
DOWN.
AT.
THAT.
TEACHER EVALUATIVE COURSE THAT
THEY MUST SHOW ACCOMPLISH AND
THEY CAN EARN UP TO TWELVE WEEKS
OFF THEIR SENTENCE WE HAVE SELF
HELP PROGRAMS A REHABILITATIVE
ACHIEVEMENT CREDIT. WHERE THEY
CAN EARN UP TO A MONTH BY
PARTICIPATING IN A VARIETY TWO
THOUSAND OR SO? REHABILITATIVE
PROGRAMS AND YOU HAVE OOD
CONDUCT CREDITS GOOD CONDUCT
CREDITS WERE WE FOUND WHAT WE
RAISED FOR EXAMPLE INMATES ARE
GIVING ZERO CREDITS.
NOW GET THIRTY THREE PERCENT
WHAT FOR EXAMPLE.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW THEIR
SENTENCE WAS.
IS HOW MUCH IS GONNA BE
SHORTENED BY THEIR PARTICIPATION
THEY CAN LOSE CREDITS AS WELL BY
DISCIPLINARY BEHAVIOR. SO IT IS
A IT IS UP AND DOWN AND I THINK
YOU'RE RIGHT THAT IT TAKES A
WHILE TO RAMP UP I THINK FOR
THE.
HOME SENATOR SKINNER MADE THE
COMMENT ABOUT OUR PAROLE.
MUM GRANT RATES.
AND JUST WHEN YOU YOU MIGHT
REMEMBER WE DID TO SIXTY OR YOU
ALL DID TOO SIXTEEN TO SIXTY ONE
THE YOUTHFUL OFFENDER LOSS
OVERNIGHT.
THOSE OFFENDERS THAT WE'RE
YOUNG WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET OUT
BRING DOING THOUSAND YEARS ALL
OF A SUDDEN REALIZE THAT THEY'VE
HAD A HEARING AT FIFTEEN OR
TWENTY OR TWENTY FIVE YEARS.
THEIR BEHAVIOR CHANGED OVERNIGHT
AND THEY STARTED TO PREPARE
THEMSELVES I THINK IT'S A LOT
LIKE PROP FIFTY SEVEN THERE
WASN'T MATES THAT HAD NO
INCENTIVE TO PARTICIPATE IN
PROGRAMS. THAT NOW ALL OF A
SUDDEN THEY CAN SEE THEIR WAY TO
AN EARLIER PEARL SUITABILITY
HEARING EARLY OVER RELEASE ON A
DETERMINATE SENTENCE AND SO THEY
ARE NOW PARTICIPATING IN
PROGRAMS AND THAT'S THAT. GROUND
SWELL CHANGE I WAS DONE TRYING
TO MENTION IN MY COMMENTS HOW
CHANGING THE SYSTEM NOW INMATES
HAVE OF. AS THEY HAVE THE
INCENTIVE TO GO TO SOMETHING
ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING TO EARN
THEIR WAY OUT AND THAT IS CAN
TAKE SOME TIME. THE.
TO GET A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA OR
A DEGREE ALMOND TAKE SOMETIME
YOU GET SIX MONTHS UP YOUR
SENTENCE FOR ACCOMPLISHING THAT.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL THE
INMATES ONE PARTICIPATING OUT
WHERE NOT MANY DID BEFORE. SO I
THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A
GRADUAL RAMP UP INTO MY
COLLEAGUES COMMENT ABOUT THE
PROJECTIONS IN NOT BEING ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND THAT BACK IN. WHEN WE
WERE IMPLEMENTED THAT JUST SEVEN
MONTHS AGO I I HOPE THAT YOU
WOULD EXPECT TO YOU THAT YOU
WILL SEE SOME.
.
AB CHALLENGES AS WE START TO GET
MOVED THROUGH IT BUT SENATOR TO
YOUR POINT I EXPECT YOU WOULD
ABSOLUTELY SEE DISCS BEGIN TO
GROW. AND PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE
MORE IN THEN SHORTEN THEIR
SENTENCE
LIKE TO SEE SOME TRACKING.
SORRY GOING TO HOUSE MONEY FOR
THE RESEARCH.
THE DATA REQUEST. A TRACKING OF
THE THE CREDITS WHICH CREDITS
ARE GETTING.
WOULD YOU KNOW THE THE.
NUMBER OF SOME KIND OF ELEMENT
OF.
WHICH CREDITS OF AN ORDER OF
MAGNITUDE ARE GETTING MORE USED.
YOU KNOW.
THAT KIND OF CRACKING
A TRACKING MECHANISM FOR THE
CREDITS.
SOME KIND OF WAY OF OF.
THIS SCENE HOW IT'S GOING YOU
KNOW.
OF I THINK IT'S A SIGN A CREDITS
LIKE YOU SAID OR SIGNED OF. OF
IS A IS A HEALTHY.
FACILITY IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE
GETTING GOOD CONDUCT CREDITS AND
THAT SHOWS A SIGN OF HEALTH IN
THE SYSTEM.
IT'S
IT'S A GOOD THING TO TROUT.
.
I ALSO I ALSO WANTED AS
SOMETHING ABOUT CREDITS.
WHEN I READ THE REPORTS I WAS
WONDERING.
.
IF SOMEBODY HAS A DEVELOPMENTAL
DISABILITY OR.
.
OTHER DISABILITY.
MENTAL HEALTH DISABILITY OR SO
FORTH.
MAYBE THEY AREN'T ABLE TO GET
EDUCATION CREDITS AND OTHER
THINGS.
WHAT KIND OF?
?
FAIRNESS LE OR COMPETITION.
IN TERMS OF THEIR OPPORTUNITIES
FOR SOMEBODY.
LIKE DAD.
THAT MAY HAVE A LEARNING
DISABILITY RATHER OTHER TO.
GET TO GO HOME.
CREDITS.
IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING
TO DO WITH THEM SO WE PUT A OF
THE FAIR AND EQUAL YOU KNOW.
ESERCITO SO WE BUILT INTO
PROP-FIFTY SEVEN A WHEN I
MENTION
MILESTONE REHABILITATIVE
ACHIEVEMENT CREDITS FOR MENTALLY
ILL ARE DEVELOPMENTALLY
DISABLED.
WE BUILT HAND THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR THOSE OFFENDERS.
TO.
GET CREDITS FOR PARTICIPATING IN
THEIR CLINICAL PROGRAMS.
SO UNLIKE.
AN OFFENDER IN THE GENERAL
POPULATION THAT IT WILL GET A
FINISH A MILESTONE PROGRAMMER
GET AT A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.
THESE INMATES GET CREDIT AN ARE
MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM GET CREDIT
FOR JUST PARTICIPATING IN THEIR
PROGRAMS SUCCESSFULLY WE HAVE. A
LOT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
INMATES IN OUR MENTAL HEALTH
PROGRAM. THAT JUST DID NOT WANT
TO PARTICIPATE GO TO ROUPS MEET
WITH THEIR DOCTOR DO THOSE
THINGS TO GET BETTER. SO PROP
FIFTY SEVEN ACTUALLY INCENTIVIZE
THOSE AND VENDORS JUST TO GO TO
THOSE GROUPS IN DAY ROOMS AND
GET CREDIT FOR THOSE. ARM AND WE
CAN GIVE YOU STATISTICS ON OF IN
THIS EARLY STAGE IS A PROP FIFTY
SEVEN HOW IT'S IMPACTING OUR
MENTALLY ILL. AND I'M I'M VERY
HAPPY TO REPORT I THINK THAT
IT'S A LOAN SIGNIFICANTLY
IMPACTING OUR MENTALLY ILL
POPULATION IN EARNING CREDITS
AND WE CAN GET YOU SOME DOUBT ON
THAT AND.
CREDIT CREDITS FOR.
TECH CREW TECHNICAL EDUCATION.
.
PRE APPRENTICESHIP WELL
CONSTRUCTION OF COURSE AFTER
INTEREST IN THAT.
WE WE DID PUT IN SP ONE.
A ARM.
DIRECTIVES THAT THE WORKFORCE
INVESTMENT WORDS.
.
OF WORK WITH YOU AND TO FIND
JOBS FOR. EXITING INMATES.
IN A CONSTRUCTION ROAD BUILDING.
PROGRAMS.
OF THEIR FUNDED WITH SP ONE AND
ALL ALL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES
RECEIVE SP ONE MONEY THAT'S FOR
FIFTY TWO BILLION DOLLARS.
OVER OF TENURE PERIOD. THEY WILL
BE REQUIRED TO.
.
DEVELOP A WORKFORCE OF PLAN THAT
INCLUDES.
EXITING IN MAY IMAGE FROM THE
US STATE FACILITIES AND I THINK
THAT IN.
YOU KNOW HELPS WITH THE OTHER
EFFORTS TO JOHN AND MAYBE THEN
MAKE A PLUG FOR ONE OF OUR
BUDGET REQUESTS WHICH IS TO
INCREASE THE INMATE PAY FOR OUR.
PLAN OPERATIONS NAM ORKERS THE
IDEA BE AND THAT AN OFFENDER
GOES TO EITHER PI OR CDC
OUR VOCATIONAL PROGRAMMING GETS.
PRE APPRENTICESHIP WORK ON TE
TRADES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
ROADS CARPENTRY PLUMBING
I'M AGREEMENT WITH THE ROOFING.
EXACTLY.
THEN THEY GO OUT OF THOSE THOSE
VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND THEN
WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS GET HIM O
GO WORK IN OUR PLAN PLAN
OPERATIONS TO HELP WITH ROPES
AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE
TALKED ABOUT BY TH WAY. ALL OF
OUR REFER PLACEMENTS
I'M ARE DONE WITHIN MAY LABOR
AND SUPERVISED BY YOU KNOW THE
TRAITS. SO IT SAYS SIGNIFICANT
EFFORT ROOM THE BENEFIT TO US TO
BE ABLE TO GET INMATES
INCENTIVIZE TO GO INTO OUR PLAN
OPERATIONS IN CONTINUE THEIR
WORK. SO THAT WHEN THEY GET OUT
THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE WE'VE
EVEN TALKED ABOUT ALLOWING
JOURNEYMEN HOURS FOR THEM
WORKING ON THE JOB. SO.
OF MANCHURIA ONE MORE QUESTIONS
AND WANTED TO TOO MUCH TIME
HERE.
OF OF I READ THE REPORT. AND I
THINK YOU S. DISCRETION LAST
YEAR AND I'M GOING TO RAISE IT
AGAIN.
OF ITS CERTAIN COUNTIES ARM.
HAVE AN OVER ABUNDANCE OF
REFERRAL TO THE STATE
CORRECTIONS FACILITIES.
AND I KNOW CENTER REPORT THE
HIGH NUMBERS FOR RIVERSIDE
COUNTY. IN A KIND OF LIKE YOU
KNOW OKAY. A MEMBER IN THE
BUDGET LAST YEAR IN THE
JUDICIARY BUDGET. OF THAT.
THERE WERE SOME JUDGES REMOVED
FROM SANTA CLARA COUNTY ALAMEDA
COUNTY.
AND CENTER RIVERSIDE AND SAN
BERNARDINO COUNTY.
SO THEREFORE I WANNA HOUSE.
.
WHATIS THE REASON WHY RIVERSIDE
COUNTY?
HAS A HIGHER PROPENSITY.
SEN.
PEOPLE TO THE STATE CORRECTIONS
DEPARTMENT.
AND IS THERE SOME KIND OF.
UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE REASON
IS.
AND I'M DOING THAT FOR MY.
.
COURTS AND SENATE QUIRK COUNTY
WHO WERE.
CONTINUALLY TROUBLING ME ABOUT.
WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR?
OR I THINK THE OTHER LEGITIMATE
ASPECT OF THAT QUESTION IS.
IS THE STATE IS A WHOLE BEARING
A LARGER PROPORTION OF COST FOR
POTENTIALLY WHAT OTHER COUNTIES
ARE HANDLING. INTERNALLY IN THE
COUNTY. AND DOES THAT'S OF
COURSE HAS TO BE.
WE WE HAVE TO WEIGH THAT
CONSIDERATION.
AND I KNOW THAT WE TRACK OF YOU
BYE BYE COUNTY.
.
BUT I THINK I WOULD SAY TO YOU
THAT IS THAT OF WE'D HAVE TO
TAKE THE INMATES FROM THE
COUNTIES AND I WOULD NOT WANT
OPINE HON WHY THEY WOULD.
FENMORE.
AT ALAS MY RESEARCH DEPARTMENT
TEND TO THE.
YEAH WELL WE WE WILL BE.
.
HAVING A HEARING ON THE JUDICIAL
BRANCH SO WE COULD OUT SOME OF
THOSE QUESTIONS TO AND.
IT CLEARLY EXPLORE.
.
THROUGH POTENTIAL EVEN OTHER.
I BEEN USER MEANS YOU KNOW WHAT.
HOW MUCH DISPARITY THERE MAY BE
IN TERMS OF COUNTIES?
SENDING FOLKS TO STATE PRISON
IN WHAT OPTIONS WE MIGHT HAVE
TO.
INTENTIONALLY CORRECT THAT.
RIGHT SYNONYM CHAIR S. SPEAKING
OF CORRECTIONS SEMI GOING CRACK
MYSELF BEFORE FINANCED AS. A ON
THE ROOF PROPOSAL SENATOR BELL
EIGHT IS SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS
PROPOSED FOR BUDGET YEAR TO
ADDRESS.
THE GROUPS THAT THREE DIFFERENT
FACILITIES AND THERE'S ALSO A
PLUS ONE A BUDGET YOUR PLUS ONE
COMPONENT. TO ADDRESS THE RIFFS
THAT TO MORE FACILITIES FELL
JUST WANTED TO CLOSE THAT THE.
AND IF ILLEGAL HAD ANY COMMENT
ANY OF THE SIXTIES RIGHT THEN I
WILL TURN TO SENATOR ANDERSON.
JUST FOLLOWING UP ON MY
COLLEAGUE.
.
ARAB.
WHO YOU SPOKE OF THE MASTER PLAN
AND ARE IN THAT MASTER PLAN?
?
DO YOU HAVE AN ANNUAL
MAINTENANCE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING
AT I KNOW THAT WE HAD A HAVE
BEEN DOING. BUDGET SUB FIVE FOR
A LONG TIME.
AND NOT EVERY YEAR HAVE WE HAD
THE.
THE FUNDS AVAILABLE.
AND WE'VE BEEN.
TRYING TO MAKE DO FIVE.
BORROWING FROM PETER TO GIVE
PAUL.
SO ARE.
DO WE HAVE REGULAR SCHEDULED
MAINTENANCE IN NET
YEAH AND YOU KNOW SOME OF THIS
WE CERTAINLY CAN ANTICIPATE MOST
ROOFS AFTER HE REPLACED AFTER
FIFTEEN OR THIRTY YEARS TO PAY
HOW IT'S BUILT.
PURSES THAT UNANTICIPATED.
SPEND IT CHAIRS THAT HAVE POPPED
UP.
AND.
.
YOU KNOW.
LOOKS LIKE YOU READY ANSWER SO
NOT I IT'S A VERY FAIR POINT I I
THINK THAT ARE PREVENTIVE
MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN PUT TO THE
WAYSIDE BECAUSE OF THE
EMERGENCY.
REPAIRS THAT THE STAFF HAVE TO
DO AND I WOULD ALSO SAY IN IT.
ONLY VERIFY THIS NUMBER BUT I
THINK THIRTY PERCENT PLUS
VACANCY RATE IN OUR MAINTENANCE
POSITIONS.
A MAN AS THE CALIFORNIA
ECONOMIES BOOMED IN CONSTRUCTION
HAS GOT GOOD IN THE STREETS WE
FIND IT HARDER AND HARDER TO
RECRUIT AND RETAIN. I'M ARMY AND
STAFF AND SO ALL OF THOSE
FACTORS HAS RESULT I THINK IN A
HAVING O PUSH PREVENTIVE
MAINTENANCE TO THE BACKSIDE OF
THINGS.
UNFORTUNATELY.
DO YOU HAVE A NOT.
A NUMBER IN MIND.
.
WE ARE SPEAKING IN TERMS OF
THESE FACILITIES AND LOOKING
OVER THE NEXT.
A YEAR TO TENURE SELF WHAT YOU
ANTICIPATE WILL BE THE NEEDS OF
THE OF IT BECAUSE NOW WE'RE
PATCHING
THE ROADS WERE WERE OR MAYBE
REPLACING SOME ARRIVES. BUT HAS
TO BE OTHER THINGS TO PLUMB
ELECTRICAL OTHER ISSUES THAT
COME UP JUST BECAUSE THE AGE
NATURALLY TO THE BUILDINGS.
DO YOU HAVE A TIPPING POINT
NUMBER ARE MOVING FORWARD OF
WHAT YOU THINK THESEBILLS
CURRENT COST OR THE NEXT FIVE OR
TEN YEARS AND. THE REASON WHY I
ASK IS.
SOMETIMES
YOU KNOW THERE MIGHT BE
ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS OUT THERE.
THAT BECOME MORE COST EFFECTIVE
NOW. IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.
IF WE FOUND SOMETHING THAT WAS
REASONABLY PRICED OR WERE FISH
AND.
I'LL BE.
COMFORTABLE CLOSING THOSE
FACILITIES FOR NEW FACILITIES.
WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT
THEY'RE OAK WOULD GET BETTER.
UTILIZATION OF THE NEW
FACILITIES KNOWING HOW THAT WE
DO IT.
SO DO YOU HAVE YOU LOOKED AT
THAT ARE THOUGHT ABOUT YOU KNOW
ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO.
TO PUT MONEY DOWN THIS DIRECTION
OR HAVE WE LOOK AT ALL THE
POSSIBLE LOCK OPTIONS.
I THINK YOU KNOW THERE'S BEEN
PROPOSALS THAT HAVE COME OUR
WAY.
ENOUGH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT TO HAVE A THE
PRIVATE SECTOR COME IN AND DO
SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE ARE
UNABLE TO DO BECAUSE OF
VACANCIES OR RESOURCES.
ON AND AND THAT IDEA ON GOES
REALLY AGAINST LABOR AND A LOT
OF THINGS THAT.
LOT OF STATE PROCUREMENT RULES
SO IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE I I I I
I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD SAY TO
THAT IS GETTING AS DIRE
SITUATION I THINK ARE DEFERRED
MAINTENANCE.
.
THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE DOLLARS
IS ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS.
IS WHAT MY MAIN AND STAFF SAY.
THE IT IS IT IS TROUBLING AND
YOU'RE RIGHT IT'S NOT SAFE WATER
SEWER PLANT SITS.
AIR HANDLING UNITS I GOTTA HAVE
AIR CONDITIONING IN.
YOU KNOW THE DESERT ARMS SO
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THOSE
THINGS.
YEAH I THINK THAT WE CONTINUE TO
TRY TO.
PATCHWORK IT ENDS COMPLAIN YOU
KNOW I WAS AT THE SIMPLY HEARING
THE OTHER DAY AND A LOT OF THE
QUESTION WAS WHY IS THE STATE
BUT YOU KNOW THE CCR BUDGET
GOING OUT.
AND ITS NOT A VERY POPULAR
OPINION TO SAY I THINK THAT WE.
GOING FORWARD ARE GONNA HAVE TO
SPEND MONEY ON ARE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND I KIND OF
COMPARED TO THE. OROVILLE DAM.
WOULD RIGHT WE HAVE TO PUT SOME
MONEY INTO IT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
GETTING SICK.
YOU CAN HEAR SARA COMPARES LATER
ARE YOU GONNA PAY FOR IT NO I
GET THAT. I JUST WANT AT THIS
JUNCTURE WILL WE HAVE SO MUCH
FOR US.
TO EXPLORE THINGS THAT PERHAPS
WE SHOULD EXPLORE TWENTY YEARS
AGO THAT ONE FEASIBLE.
JUST TO LOOK CABS COULD KNOW SO
THAT WE TURN BACK TO OUR
CONSTITUENTS AND SAY WE LOOKED
AT ALL THE OPTIONS WE TOOK THE
BEST CHOICE.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK
AT ALL THOSE THINGS AGAIN TO SEE
IF IT IF ANY OF THEM. ARE ARE OR
MORE FEASIBLE ON AND BETTER
SUITED FOR US.
THE SECOND THING AND I KNOW THAT
Y'ALL MANTIS BUT. WHEN WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT.
.
THE CREDITS IN AND WE'RE LOOKING
AT.
HOW APPEARS THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN
ALL THE LAW CHANGES HOW MANY
PEOPLE ARE OFTEN AND TO
PARTICIPATE? IN RECEIVING THOSE
ARE GOOD TIME CREDITS.
MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK THE GOAL OF THOSE
CREDITS ARE NOT
THE EARLY RELEASE BUT RATHER.
LOWER RECIDIVISM.
IN SO ARE I THINK THAT WHEN WE
THINK IN THAT IN TERMS OF THAT
EQUATION WE HAVE TO INCLUDE.
A YEAR TWO YEARS FIVE YEARS TEN
YEARS DEVICE WHAT DID THEY MOVE
ON TO A PRODUCTIVE LIFE OUTSIDE
OF PRISON.
IN BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT
WILL HAVE GREAT PROGRAMS WHERE
THEY GET TO COLOR.
AND AGAIN EARLY RELEASE AND IT
HAS NOTHING TO KEEP THEM OUT OF
PRISON. AND I THINK THAT THAT I
I KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT
EVERYBODY MEN.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE SET IT
THAT WAY AT LEAST I CAN HEAR IT
THAT WAY I JUST WANT TO REFOCUS
US. THE REASON WHY SUPPORT THOSE
PROGRAMS IS I WANNA MAKE SURE
THAT THE PEOPLE THAT. ARE
EARNESTLY WORKING TO IMPROVE
THEIR LIVES HAVE A DECENT CHANCE
OF DOING THAT.
IN A SENATOR AYE UP I'M SORRY
PRIDE IN COMMUNICATE THAT I
THINK AT THE HOME.
JUST THAT THE VERY BASE
FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL WHAT THE
GOVERNOR DID WAS. I AT.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS INCENTIVIZE DO
SOMETHING WITH YOUR
INCARCERATION GET OFF IRAQ I
WORKED IN THIS DEPARTMENT FOR
THIRTY FIVE YEARS AND. I'M FOR
MOST OF IT WAS TO UNDER PERCENT
OVERCROWDING EVERY JIM DAY ROOM.
WAS FILLED WITH INMATES THE
HUMAN DENSITY ARM MADE IT A BAD
VIOLENT PLACE AND WE PRODUCE
BETTER CRIMINALS FOR THIRTY
YEARS. I'M WHITE THE GOVERNOR'S
DONE HERE I BELIEVE IS TRIED TO
DO THIS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IT IS
NOT TO GET JUST EARLY RELEASE.
IT IS.
THE BAT THAT IF AN OFFENDER CAN
GET SUCH AS ABUSE PROGRAMMING
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE GET TO A
DEGREE. THAT WHEN THEY GET OUT
IN THE GET WORK CAN LIVABLE WAGE
IN THE HOUSE.
THAT THEY ARE GONNA RECIPROCATE
LESS ALMOND YOU KNOW I HAD THE
RECIDIVISM DATA OF. IS ALWAYS
THREE YEARS IN OUR.
REARS BUT THE ELEVEN TWELVE
DATA SHOWED I THINK WAS FORTY
SIX PERCENT COMPARED.
ONCE A FIFTIES
CENTER SOMETHING LIKE THAT THE
YEAR BEFORE. I'M BETTING THAT
WHEN YOU HAVE OFFENDERS GOING TO
THIS PROGRAM AND I'M SURE THE
DETRACTORS WILL SAY TO YOU THAT
SOME PEOPLE ARE SCANNED SOME OF
THE INMATES ARE SCANNED INTO THE
PROGRAMS.
I I BELIEVE ABSOLUTELY THAT'S
TRUE BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT A
GOOD MAJORITY OF HOME THAT IF
YOU DIDN'T DO THESE PROBLEMS
WOULD OTHERWISE GO OUT THERE AND
CREATE MORE VICTIMS. AGAIN TO BE
IT THEIR ISSUES ARE GONNA BE
ADDRESSED WILL SEE A LOWER
INCARCERATION RATE IN THE
RICHARD SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND
THIS WAS.
THE ENTIRE THING ABOUT PROP
FIFTY SEVEN WAS INMATES GO GET
SOMETHING DONE STATIC TROUBLE.
NAM IN A MAIN MAIN POINT A PROP
FIFTY SEVEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
DATA POINTS.
THE LAWYERS WHO ARE SPRING
ADOPTED AND I'D.
PREFACE THAT I THOUGHT WE WERE
ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ON THIS
SITE DON'T WANNA AND FOR THAT WE
WEREN'T.
BUT THERE HAS TO BE A
MEASUREMENT OF FOR THE PROGRAMS
ARE WORKING SO WE COULD HAVE
THOSE PROGRAMS BUT THEY'RE NOT A
FACTOR PROGRAMS ARE THEY'RE NOT
HITTING THE MARK.
WE NEED A MEASUREMENT TO SO THAT
WE'RE NOT FEELING.
A PRISONER WHO IS APPLYING
THEMSELVES BUT WE'VE GIVEN THEM.
A FALSE HOPE BECAUSE THE
PROGRAMS POOR THAT'S THAT'S THE
DANCE WERE ARMED CONCERNED THAT
WE ARE GIVING THEM THINGS TO
ACTUALLY LEAD TO A BETTER
OUTCOME.
AND.
LOOK OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO GAME THE SYSTEM.
THAT'S HOW THAT MANY OF THEM GOT
INTO PRISON.
SO THAT DATA THAT IT THAT IS
EXPECTED. THE DIFFERENCE IS.
WE KNOW IF THEY HAVE A SENTENCE
OF TEN YEARS AT THE END OF TEN
YEARS ARE GOING TO GET OUT WHAT
THE WE HELP THEM OR NOT.
IN AT LEAST WITH THIS PATH.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SINCERE WILL
HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE TO STAY
OUT. NEAR ETCETERA I JUST VERY
BRIEFLY I THERE'S A LOT OF.
IN THE ACADEMIC WORLD ALEJO
WHICH SUGGESTS TO US THAT WE
SHOULD ONLY HAVE EVIDENCE BASED
PROGRAMS IN OUR PRISON TO YOUR
POINT THAT THEY THEY WORK AND.
MODE THEY'VE BEEN RESEARCH.
I BELIEVE THAT IN A PRISON
SYSTEM I'VE IT YOU HAVE EVIDENCE
BASED PROGRAMS LIKE ALL OF
OUR-SENSE OF PEACE PROGRAMS.
ALMOST THREE DOLLARS OUR
EVIDENCE BASED ON BUT WE ALSO
HAVE A VARIETY OF OTHER PROGRAMS
THAT ARE HELPFUL TO AN OFFENDER
I'VE SEEN.
MEMBERS.
THAT WERE KILLERS BACK IN THE
DAY ARMED YOU KNOW CRYING AT
SOME.
SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE
HAVE OUR PUPPY PROGRAMS
OR.
ARTS PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE
INFUSED I WOULD SAY TO YOU UP
FROM MY EXPERIENCE THAT PRISON
AND I SAID EARLIER. IT'S BUSY
WITH.
A MULTITUDE OF PROGRAMS
AND THE EVIDENCE BASED PROGRAMS
ARMS WILL PRODUCE A BETTER
OFFENDER I DON'T I DO NOT THINK
THOUGH THAT WE SHOULD.
THAT ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS.
SHOULD BE.
COMPLETELY EVIDENCE BASE WE HAVE
A NUMBER PROMISE SEEN.
PROGRAMS THAT JUST HAVEN'T BEEN
RESEARCH AT TO THE REGULAR.
TO PUT THAT QUALIFIER OF
EVIDENCE BASED ON IT.
BUT THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO
DO THEIR RESEARCH AS WE MOVE
FORWARD TO.
APPROVED TO THE TAXPAYERS AND TO
OURSELVES THAT.
WE ARE GIVING THEM THE BEST
OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU.
I WOULD TO COMMENT THAT.
BY. IS
MY.
VICE CHAIR NOSE SINCE HE IS
ALSO.
A WE'RE ARE ALSO IN THE PUBLIC
SAFETY POLICY COMMITTEE AND AS I
HAVE BEGUN TO BE BRIEFED ON THE
BILLS THAT WE'LL BE HEARING.
WE DO WE WILL HAVE A BILL.
THAT OUR RELATES TO LOOKING AT
PROGRAMS AND THEIR EFFECTIVENESS
THROUGH WE WILL GET TO IN OUR
POLICY HAD STEEL WITHOUT MORE.
ON.
AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE
THINGS OF.
WE OFFICE YOU WILL BE LOOKING AT
IS WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE
CRITERIA BECAUSE CLEARLY. THERE
ARE.
.
THERE ARE CRITERIA BEYOND THAT
WHICH IS SOMETIMES USED IN
EVALUATING QUOTE UNQUOTE IN
EVIDENCE BASED THAT MAY BE VERY
VALUABLE TO ADD IN OUR LOOK. AT
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF PROGRAMS.
ILIO DID YOU WANNA MAKE A
COMMENT.
UNDERSERVED WORK LEGISLATIVE
ANALYST'S OFFICE ARM OUR OFFICES
RECENTLY RELEASED A REPORT THAT
I BELIEVE SECRETARY KERNAN WAS
REFERRING TO. ARM WE IDENTIFIED
A NUMBER OF WEAKNESSES WE FEEL
WITH THE CURRENT EVALUATION OF
CDC OURS PROGRAMS WILL BE HAPPY
TO PROVIDE ON THAT REPORT TO
YOUR STAFF SO YOU CAN LOOK THAT
OVER. AND I WOULD SAY WE BOMB
WHILE WE DO THINK THAT STATE
DOLLARS SHOULD BE PRIORITIZE
RABBIT IN SPACE PROGRAMS. ARM WE
WE ARE OPEN TO THE IDEA OF OTHER
PROGRAMS ALSO BEING FUNDED WILL
DISCUSS IT GREATER.
AT A LATER DATE ON THE
INNOVATIVE PROGRAMMING GRANTS
BUT WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVING
SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS AND NOT
ALL THOSE DOLLARS WOULD GO TO
EVIDENCE BASED PROGRAMS. ARM BUT
WE DO ADVOCATE THAT PROGRAMS
WHETHER THEIR EVIDENCE BASED IN
OUR IN THE FUTURE SHOULD ALWAYS
BE EVALUATED TO ASSESS WHETHER
OR NOT THEY'RE ACTUALLY
EFFECTIVE.
NO I I.
WOULD COMMENT JUST AS A FINAL
ON THAT THAT WHILE IT'S NOT
COMPLETELY ANALOGOUS WE NOW HAVE
A GOOD BODY OF RESEARCH THAT
SHOWS FOR EXAMPLE THOSE HIGH
SCHOOLS THAT HAVE.
EXTENSIVE SPORTS DRAMA. MUSIC
AND OTHER TYPES OF WHAT MANY
PEOPLE MIGHT CONSIDER EXTRA
CURRICULAR HAVE HIGHER SUCCESS
RATES THAN THOSE HIGH SCHOOLS
WITH PRIMARILY.
ACADEMIC PROGRAMS.
AND THAT WE THAT.
HUMANS ARE INDIVIDUALS AND THEY
WHAT THEY RESPOND TO WILL VERY
AND WHAT MOTIVATES THEM TO BE
SUCCESSFUL FOR EXAMPLE IN THE.
IN A ACADEMIC PROGRAM OR SAY A
DRUG TREATMENT PROGRAM MAYBE
WHEN OTHER EMOTIONAL NEEDS ARE
ADDRESSED WHICH MAY BE ADDRESSED
THROUGH. MORE OUT THROUGH MORE
QUALITATIVE WHETHER IT'S ARTS OR
OTHER THINGS SO I THINK THAT
WE'D WANT OBVIOUSLY WANT TO
INCLUDE THOSE TYPE OF FACTORS IN
ANY FUTURE RESEARCH KNOWING THAT
THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT MAY
BE IN OUR PRISONS.
SO FAR HAVE.
YOU KNOW NOT HAVE NOT A HAD THE
BENEFIT OF BEING LOOKED OUT
THROUGH A LENS THAT MIGHT BE
APPROPRIATE.
FOR EVALUATING THEM SO.
THEY WAY LASTLY SENATOR BREAUX.
SAID ONE MORE THING FOR THE OLEO
AND.
GUY ARE.
.
YOU KNOW WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW
LIKE THAT HE SAID IT KIND OF GOT
THE IMPRESSION FROM WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING. THAT YOU KNOW WE WE
DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.
PEOPLE COMING IN AND WHY THEY'RE
COMING IN AND ALL THAT.
BUT DON'T YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO
LOOK INTO THAT FIND OUT WHAT THE
REASON THERE'S.
YOU KNOW.
IT IS YEAH WE'RE WE'RE SITTING
HERE IN THE NEW YEAH Y. THE
COUNTY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE
AREA VOICE YES WHAT WHAT'S GOING
ON THEIR ISSUE INTENDED THAT WE
HAVE LIKE LIKE AN ESTIMATE THAT
WAS OFF BY TWENTY SIX HUNDRED OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS THAT
RIGHT.
AND SIX HUNDRED.
.
WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE WHERE
THE KNOW SIR THERE MUST BE SOME
HAPPENING.
THAT.
IS CAUSING THAT AND THAT
FURTHERMORE WHAT KIND OF.
WELL KIND O APPROACHES CAN WE
TAKE AS A LEGISLATOR IN IN IN
YOUR POLICY COMMITTEE.
IN TERMS OF ADOPTING LAWS THAT.
DO WITH THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
YOU KNOW WE HAVE WE DO HAVE
CONTROL OVER IT.
WE CAN PASS STATUTES WE CAN YOU
KNOW THERE'S THINGS WE CAN DO.
BEYOND THE BUDGET.
OF THAT WILL HELP CONTROL AND
HAVE HAVE A.
UNDERSTANDING OF WHY.
THERE'S A DISPARITY.
IN DIFFERENT.
AREAS AND DIFFERENT COURTS.
AND.
DID I DON'T KNOW IF THE.
THE STATE JUDICIAL COUNCIL
BECAUSE ABOUT TALKS WITH S
ABOUT.
STANDARDIZATION AND YOU KNOW
LIKE PROCEDURAL.
STANDARDIZATION HOW THEY HANDLE
PEOPLE.
BUT I I HAVE I HAVE A I HAVE A
FEELING WE GET INTO MENTAL
HEALTH WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT.
.
A LOT OF BEHAVIORAL CASES THERE
BY CALL BEHAVIORAL.
BEHAVIORAL CASES THAT AREN'T.
CRIMINAL CASES BUT THERE
BEHAVIORAL. CASES ARE SENT TO
US.
WE BECOME THE I I THINK I THINK
IT'S YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S YOU
KNOW THEY'RE SITTING BEHAVIORAL.
CASES TO US.
I'D LOVE TO HAVE A SENT ALL THE
BAD PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMITTING
ALL THE CRIMES AND. THAT ARE.
THAT THAT'S THAT'S AND THAT'S
WHAT WE WANT.
BUT WE DON'T WANT WILL WE KNOW
WHAT IS.
UNTREATED MENTALLY ILL THAT HER.
GOING THROUGH CYCLES OF EITHER
VIOLENCE OR.
I'M AND CARED FOR.
HOMELESS.
NEARLY ALL PEOPLE LITTER
CONSTANTLY ARRESTED AND. BY THE.
DO SUB THAT CAUSES THEM TO HAVE
A FELONYAND THEY GET SENT TO
THE STATE PRISON LIKE THE.
LIKE LIKE IN.
.
IN OUR COMMUNITIES YOU KNOW WE
HAVE A LOT OF MY SEEN PEOPLE.
.
GRAB COPS IN YOU KNOW.
LIKE DATA IN THE THEY WOULD BE
ARRESTED FOR ASSAULTING A POLICE
OFFICER.
BUT THEY BE.
OUT OF. THEIR MINDS THEY ONE
BEING IN OF.
AND THEN EDIT IT IF THEY DID
THAT A SEVERAL TIMES THEY WOULD
BE.
FINALLY.
HIT WITH THE.
HARD FELONY AND DIFFERENT
DIFFERENT DA HAVE DIFFERENT
STANDARDS KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS.
SECRETARY KERN INTO YOUR BILL
I'M I WAS JUST SIMPLY GONNA MAKE
THE REMARKS THAT WE HAVE BECOME
THE DE FACTO PSYCHIATRIC
HOSPITALS FOR THIS STATE AND.
FORTY THOUSAND HOT AND THERE'S
WIRE COSTS THAN A.
SPITTLE MIGHT HAVE.
THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR A
PARTICIPATION AND OBVIOUSLY THIS
IS ARE THE BEGINNING. AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUED
CONVERSATIONS TO WE LAND IN OUR
OF BUDGET IN JUNE AND THANK YOU.
COLLEAGUES
SEE YOU.
THANK YOU.
THIS.
MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED