LOOK.
TEN. FOURTEEN TINO.
UP HERE SCANNER.
STONE.
BUT BECAUSE HE. WELK.
IF YOU CALL THE ROLL ONE MORE
TIME FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
ANDERSON. BELL.
LASER THIS WORLD YOUR ACCENT.
TAX AND MIKE WEIR.
SKINNER SAT DOWN.
YOU GOT EVERYTHING ACQUIRE
EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMITTEE
SECRETARY NOTICES THE PRESENCE
OF A QUORUM WE WILL GO AHEAD
AND.
BEGAN TODAY'S INFORMATIONAL
HEARING ON THE TWENTY SEVENTEEN
WILDFIRES AND MOVING FORWARD
PRIOR TO GETTING STARTED INTO
THE OVERSIGHT. PORTION OF
TODAY'S HEARING RELATED TO
WILDFIRES WERE GOING TO TAKE UP
THREE CURRENT YEAR CLEAN UP
BILLS COLLEAGUES. THESE BILLS
ARE PRIMARILY MINOR AND
TECHNICAL IN NATURE. AND THE
RELATED TO ISSUE THAT%
MATERIALIZED SINCE THE PASSAGE
OF THE TWENTY SEVENTEEN BUDGET
ACT I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE
FILE LIST FOR BILLS HOWEVER I'M
PULLING A B. TEN. FROM TODAY'S
HEARING THERE WOULD GIVE ME AB
ONE TEN FROM TODAY'S HEARING
THERE WERE SOME FINAL CHANGES TO
THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS COMPLETED
LATE LAST NIGHT SO WE WILL HEAR
A BE WANTING. IN COMMITTEE ON
MONDAY UPON THE GERMAN THE FLOOR
SESSION SO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
HAS ON THEIR CALENDAR UPON THE
GERMANS WILL HAVE A VERY BRIEF.
FULL BUDGET COMMITTEE HEARING TO
HEAR AB ONE TAN.
WHAT THAT MISS CLASSES WITH
THIS?
TO WALK US THROUGH TO PRESENT
THE REMAINING THREE BILLS EIGHTY
ONE OF FIVE EIGHTY ONE ALL SIX
AND A B. ONE ALRIGHT. THANK YOU
MISTER COSTER AND GET STARTED.
THANK YOU GOOD MORNING MADAM
CHAIR MISTER VICE CHAIR MEMBERS
ANY COST WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE AT THE CHAIR NOTED WE
HAVE THREE MEASURES BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE FOR CONSIERATION
TODAY ONE IS THE CURRENT YEAR
BUDGET BILL JUNIOR. AND TO OUR
CURRENT YOUR TRAILER BILL.
AMENDMENTS TO STATUTE OF START
WITH AT ONE OF FIVE WHICH IS OUR
CURRENT YEAR BUDGET BILL JUNIOR.
THIS BILL ALLOWS UP TO FIVE
PERCENT OR THREE HUNDRED FIFTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS AT THE SEVEN
MILLION DOLLARS APPROPRIATED IN
THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET ACT. FOR
THE FEDERAL LOCAL UPDATE. CENSUS
ADDRESSES ALSO KNOWN AS THE LOOP
UP PROGRAM. IT'S.
THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO USE A
PORTION OF THE FUNDING FOR THE
ADMINISTRATION OF THE POOR AT
THE PROGRAM WHICH IS ACTUALLY
ADMINISTERED BY THE DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE. OFFER ACTIVITIES
RELATED TO THE TWENTY TWENTY
TWENTY TWENTY CENSUS WITH THAT
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THANK YOU VERY MUCH
ANY QUESTIONS ON A B. ONE ALL
FIVE.
SEEING NONE IS THERE ARE ANY
PUBLIC COMMENT.
SEEING NONE PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
MAYBE ONE OF FIVE THE MOTION IS
TO PASS MITCHELL. BY JULY
NIELSEN WILSON I ANDERSON.
ANDERSON I FELL. LASER JACKSON.
WIRE BUT WIRE ON AMINING MONEY
NINE MORE LUCK.
MORE LIKE I PAN. PAN I PUT IN
TINA BURTON TINA I BROTH.
BROUGHT I SKINNER. SKINNER EYES
STONE. BUT BECAUSE HE BECAUSE HE
DIED WILKE.
THE WHOLE THAT ITEM OPENED ON WE
KNOW SOME OF THE MEMBERS WILL BE
JOINING THIS MOVIE ON TWO EIGHTY
ONE L. SIX.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AB ONE OF
SIX IS A TRAILER BILL THAT WOULD
ALLOW THE THREE MAIN CANNABIS
LICENSING ENTITIES IN THE STATE
TO PROCESS FBI BACKGROUND CHECKS
WHICH ARE NEEDED TO ISSUE ANNUAL
LICENSES. THE FBI IS REQUIRING
THAT EACH ENTITY IS SPECIFICALLY
NAMED IN STATUTE TO RECEIVE THE
FBI CONVICTION INFORMATION
RELATED TO CANNABIS LICENSES
THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. THE BILL
ALSO CONTAINS A TEN POINT SEVEN
MILLION DOLLAR APPROPRIATION
FROM THE CANNABIS CONTROL FUN. A
COMPLIMENTARY GENERAL FUND LOAN
TO SUPPLY PROPRIETARY PLANT AND
PACKAGE RADIO FREQUENCY
IDENTIFICATION TAGS TO BE USED
BY ANNUAL LICENSEES TO TRACK
CANNABIS AND CANNABIS RELATED
PRODUCTS. THE COST WAS UNKNOWN
AT THE TIME OF THE PASSAGE OF
THE BUDGET ACT AND SO THIS JUST
CLARIFIES THE COST WHICH IS BEEN
COME DOWN. IN THE NTERIM
WITHOUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. COLLEAGUES.
SENATOR NELSON. COSTER AT THIS
MADE ME NOT NECESSARILY PROPER
FORM BUT I THINK IT IS SINCE
WE'RE GOING TO BE. USING MONEY
FROM A FUND IT'S JUST
DEVELOPING.
THE DEBT IS THAT CORRECT THERE'S
NO MONEY IN THE FUND YET.
A CLEAN COME DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE THERE IS THAT AT THIS
TIME THERE'S VERY LITTLE MONEY
IN THE FUND AND IT'S MOSTLY
BEING SUPPORTED BY GENERAL FUND
LOANS THAT WILL. BE PAID AND. MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT A LOT OF THIS
WILL BE.
AND CASH.
HOWEVER WE THE STATE GOING TO
MANAGE ALL THIS CASH.
COMING AND THAT'S NOT THE NORMAL
WAY TO.
TAXES AND PUNCHED.
SO THE LICENSING ENTITIES HAVE
BEEN WORKING ON VERY DILIGENTLY
TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE THE
BEER OF CANNABIS CONTROL
RECENTLY GOT THEIR LOCATION IN
RANCHO CORDOVA. AND THEY'LL BE
DOING THE CASHIERING FOR THE
THREE LICENSING AGENCIES IN THAT
AREA. THERE WAS GONNA BE
ESTABLISHMENT OF A NORTH COAST
OFFICE THAT WILL INCLUDE ALSO
ALTHOUGH I SINKING ENTITIES SO.
THERE'S THAT THERE'S NO UNIFORM
ANSWER BUT THEY ARE KIND OF.
LOOKING AT VARIOUS WAYS TO
ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND MAKING
SURE THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE CASH
AND TRY TO LIMIT EXPOSURE AND
RISK. MADAM CHAIR THIS IS
PREMATURE RIGHT NOW BUT THAT
SOME POINT I THINK COULD BE IN
ORDER FOR HAVING AN OVERSIGHT
HEARING ON THIS ISSUE IT'S.
GOING TO BE OF ENORMOUS
CONSEQUENCE.
NOTHING REAL SYMBOLS BE SURE PUT
THAT ON THE PARKING LOT AS WE
LOOK AT ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT.
HEARING OPPORTUNITY SENATOR
MCGUIRE BECAUSE SO MUCH OF MADAM
CHAIR AND DO APPRECIATE. ALL THE
WORK THAT DEPARTMENT FINANCES
BEEN PLOWING INTO THIS IS NOT
BEEN AN EASY ISSUE TO TACKLE. AN
ESPECIAL OR BRING A SEVEN
BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY OUT OF
THE DARK AND THE LIGHT. WOULD
JUST MAKE NO THAT WILL BE AN
OVERSIGHT. HEARING TONIGHT
BETWEEN GOVERNMENT FINANCE AND
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS EVER
WILL HAVE NICK MADERO'S WHO'S
THE DIRECTOR OF. A DEPARTMENT
ATTACKS ISN'T THE MINISTRATION
TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE SO WHAT
ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE
ABLE WE WELCOME YOU TO YOU KYRA.
NOWADAYS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
NORTH COAST IDA HEAD ON OVER TO
CAN BE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER THIS
EVENING.
BUT OBVIOUSLY WE DEFER TO MADAM
CHAIR AND ANY ISSUES IN REGARDS
TO OVERSIGHT WE'D BE HAPPY TO
PAY TO PROVIDE A REPORT OUT OF
TONIGHT'S. MEETING IS THAT IS A
SIGNIFICANT ISSUE THAT THE
DIRECTOR IS FOCUSING ON RIGHT
NOW.
THANK YOU SENATOR MORLOCKS HAD
TWO QUICK QUESTIONS THE FIRST IS
IS IS THE FBI STILL BUT. THE
GOLD STANDARD OR DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER OPTIONS FOR.
GETTING THIS DATA THAT MIGHT BE
LESS EXPENSIVE OR OR AS A FREE.
THERE IS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH
THAT THAT WOULD BE PAID BY THE
LICENSEE ON BUT IT DEFINITELY IS
THE STANDARD IN THE PLAN. MOVING
FORWARD SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE
PROCESSING THAT HISTORY THAT
BILL.
I COULD USE OF THE TRACK AND
TRACE TAGS OUT WHAT WE.
DO TO PREVENT.
REPLIED TAKING THE TAGS OFF AND
DOING A DIFFERENT BAGGER. HOW DO
WE HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE?
THE TAG STAYS WITH THE PRODUCT.
I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS BUT
IT'S BASICALLY I THINK A UNIQUE
NUMBER IDENTIFIER THAT TRACKS
THE PLANT THROUGH THE PROCESS SO
CULTIVATION MANUFACTURING TO
RETAIL. AND THAT UNIQUE
SEQUENCING IS SUPPOSED TO LIMIT.
DIVERSION FROM THE LEGAL MARKET
OR ILLEGAL INTO THE LEGAL
MARKET.
BUT I COULDN'T.
SWITCH OUT THE PRODUCT RIGHT I
COULD DO SOMETHING WITH THE
PACKAGER. WHAT WE DOING?
FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT JUST.
YEAH THEY'RE RATED.
THE CHAIR.
MANAGER.
I THINK SO MUCH ABOUT IN REGARDS
THAT TRACKING SO. EACH BUSINESS
WILL BE IN. THE SOFTWARE THAT
HAS BEEN PURCHASED BY ON THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA TRACK AND
TRACE.
EACH POUND OF MARIJUANA
MARIJUANA PRODUCT WILL HAVE A
QUEUE ID CODE ATTACHED TO IT.
IT ISN'T HE SERVE AND ANYONE
POINT WITHIN THE SYSTEM FROM
THAT TIME IT LEAVES.
THE SHIPPING WAREHOUSE TO THE
TIME IT GETS TO. THE DISPENSARY
AT THOSE POUNDS ARE TRACKED BY
THE UNIQUE Q. ID CODE. AND THEN
INFORMATION IS EMBEDDED WITHIN
THAT ID CODE OF.
WHO'S TOUCHED IT. WHERE IT'S
COME FROM COUNTY ORIGIN
ETCETERA?
THEY WERE JUST OK MARK.
CONCERN ABOUT FRAUD YOU KNOW
REPLACING THE PRODUCT WAS
SOMETHING INFERIOR WHEN YOU
THINK YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING
FROM A PARTICULAR.
YEAH GROWER ITS ADDRESS I JUST.
CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT IT'S A.
IT'S A VERY STRONG AND HE SAID
THAT'S ON THERE AND IT'S GONNA
BE VERY DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO
REPLACE BUT.
AND TO SENATOR REQUIRES POINT I
WOULD JUST NOTE THESE ARE RFID
TAGS THESE A RADIO FREQUENCY
IDENTIFIER TAX.
THANK YOU.
THAT IS DOWN. THANK YOU A
MANAGER I WANTED DECISIONAL
FIRST I I DO SUPPORT THE BILL.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS HAS THERE
BEEN ANY.
ISSUES WITH.
APPLICANTS THAT ARE CONCERNED
THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING
THROUGH AN FBI BACKGROUND CHECK.
WITH THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE
ADMINISTRATION WITH REGARD TO
THE. RECREATIONAL USE OF
MARIJUANA IT STILL AS WE KNOW
FEDERALES A SCHEDULE ONE DRUG
IT'S LIKE. BROADCASTING TO THE
FBI THAT.
I AM MISTER X. Y. Z. AND I'M IN
THE IN THE CANNABIS BUSINESS
HERE IN CALIFORNIA IS THAT IS
THAT IS THAT A CONCERN.
SO WE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT
SPECIFIC CONCERN IN COMMON THAT
LICENSEES GET THIS TYPE OF
BACKGROUND CHECK THE NOTES YOU
NEED INDUSTRY AND BUT THE FOLKS
THAT HAVE TEMPORARY LICENSES
THAT ARE WAITING TO GET ANNUALS
ARE. YOU READY TO DO SO AND SO I
THINK THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
READY TO ENTER THE LEGAL
MARKETER DECIDED FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO YOU HAVEN'T HEARD
OF OR SEEN ANY PUSH BACK FROM
MANY APPLICANTS CONCERNED THAT.
THEY MAY BE OPENING A LEGAL
PANDORA'S BOX THEMSELVES. NOW
OKAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
SEE NOT ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ON
EIGHTY ONE OF SIX.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ALL I'M
SORRY SHE'S COME COME ON.
I WAS ON A ROLL.
I APOLOGIZE MADAM CHAIR AMY
JENKINS WITH PLATINUM ADVISERS
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
CANNABIS INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION.
AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF OTHER
CLIENTS IN THE SPACE AND WE ARE
HERE IN SUPPORT OF AB ONE OF SIX
AND ADD TO THE SENATOR'S
QUESTION. ON THERE ARE ALWAYS
CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH
BACKGROUND CHECKS IN ANY SORT OF
EXPOSURE TO THE INDUSTRY HOWEVER
WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR
SOME TIME. AND ARE WILLING TO
TAKE THAT RISK TO BE COMPLIANT
IN CALIFORNIA SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU NOW PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
MAYBE ONE OF SIX THE MOTION IS
TO PASS MITCHELL BY JULY
NILSSON.
NILSSON I ANDERSON ANDERSON I'D
BELL.
LASER LASER EYE JACKSON JACKSON
I'D MCGUIRE REQUIRE I MINING.
MONEY NINE MORE LUCK MORE LIKE I
PAN. BENT ON MY PART AND TINA
FORTUNE TINA I ROTH. BROUGHT THE
ICE SKINNER SKINNER EYES STONE
STONE IOWA HE. WAS CIA WILKE
RIGHT WILL DIE.
WITH A VOTE OF FIFTEEN TO ZERO
THAT MEASURE PASSES.
MOVING ON TO A BE ONE AWAY.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR THIS IS A
CURRENT YEAR EDUCATION TRAILER
BILL WITH TWO MAIN PROVISIONS
THE FIRST PROVISION HAS TO DO
WITH CHILD. CARE COUNTY PILOT
PROGRAMS THE LANGUAGE AMENDS THE
EDUCATION CODE TO STREAMLINE AND
REDUCE DUPLICATION IN THE
REQUIREMENTS OF INDIVIDUALIZED.
COUNTY CHILD CARE PILOT PLANTS
AND CLARIFIES HOW LOCAL
CHILDCARE SUBSIDY POLICIES MAY
SUPERSEDES STATE LAW AND
PARTICIPATING PILOT COUNTY SO
IT'S A VERY TARGETED PROGRAM ARE
HOPING TO STREAMLINE SOME OF THE
ADMINISTRATIVE COST. WE WOULD
KNOW THAT WE DON'T THINK THE
LANGUAGE ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE ANY
ADDITIONAL COST TO THE STATE BUT
BY STREAMLINING THE REQUIREMENTS
THAT MAY ACTUALLY. RESULT IN A
COST REDUCTION OF FOR CITIES
ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.
AND ADMINISTERING THESE PILOT
PROGRAMS. SECOND A PROVISION OF
THE EDUCATION TRAILER BILL
BEFORE YOU DEALS WITH THE EVERY
KID COUNTS PROGRAM. THE TWENTY
SEVENTEEN BUDGET ACT
APPROPRIATED THREE MILLION
DOLLARS GENERAL FUND TO
ESTABLISH THE EVERY KID COUNTS
COLLEGE SAVINGS MATCHING GRANT
PROGRAM. THIS BILL SLIGHTLY
MODIFIES THAT PROGRAM'S INITIAL
STRUCTURE AND TRANSFERS ITS
ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES FROM THE
SCHOLARS SHARE INVESTMENT BOARD
TO THE CALIFORNIA STUDENT AID
COMMISSION. WITH THAT I'M HAPPY
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THANK
YOU COLLEAGUES ANY QUESTIONS ON
A BEE.
ONE WHITE.
IT'S JUST.
MORE LAUGHTER MAKING I'M SORRY
MANAGER YOU TRANSFER SO.
THE TREASURE KNEW THEY WERE
GOING WAS GOING TO HAVE THIS
PROGRAM JUST CURIOUS.
WHY?
WHY THE DAYS?
HAVE A CHOKE A CHOKED ON THIS
PROGRAM AND I WOULD NOTE THAT
THIS IS ACTUALLY A LEGISLATIVE
PROPOSAL WHICH WAS BOUGHT FORD
IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET ACT
ON AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT.
THE STATE TREASURER'S OFFICE DID
NOT WANT TO ADMINISTER THE
PROGRAM BUT THE STUDENT AID
COMMISSION WAS WILLING TO
ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM.
WE DON'T THINK IT FUNDAMENTALLY
CHANGES THE NATURE OF THE
PROGRAM. EONS.
IT MAY ACTUALLY YOU KNOW I
THINK THAT IT'S A FINE ENTITY TO
ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM
OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE DEEP
KNOWLEDGE OF HOW COLLEGE
FINANCIAL AID AND SAVINGS
PROGRAMS AT THE TREASURER.
APPROVE THE ERROR THAT THE
LEGISLATION. THEY HAVE A SUPPORT
POSITION THEY KNEW THAT AS I
SAID THIS WAS A LEGISLATIVE
PROPOSAL THIS WAS NOT THE
ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL I'M
NOT AWARE OF THE TREASURE
WOULD'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN.
WRITING THE BILL AND THEY WOULD
BEEN CONTACTED AND THEY MAY HAVE
A POST I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS
INNOCENTLY MEASURE I DON'T KNOW
YOU KNOW I JUST FIND IT
INTERESTING THAT THAT AFTER ALL
THAT.
OKAY. THANK YOU VERY. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS COLLEAGUES.
FOR WHAT WHAT HEALTHY RETURN TO
CATCH MY EYE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS.
PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE NUN PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
NO WAY THE MOTION IS TO PASS
MITCHELL. MITCHELL I NIELSEN.
WILSON I ANDERSON ANDERSON I'D
BELL. LASER LASER EYE JACKSON
JACKSON I'M ACQUIRE ACQUIRE I
MONEY. MONEY I AM MORE LOCKED.
MORE LIKE I PAN. PAN I PUT IN
TINA.
AND TINA I ROTH BROTHER I
SKINNER SKINNER EYES STONE.
WHEN I WAKE BECAUSE HE.
BECAUSE HE I WILL I WILL I.
HOWEVER DUE ON ONE OF FIVE.
FIFTEEN TO ZERO THAT MEASURES
OUT WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS ON A B. ONE OH
FIVE. IT BE ONE OF FIVE THE
MOLLY X. THIS IS A B. ONE OF
FIVE RECALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS.
IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT THE MOTION
IS TO PASS FELL.
GLAZER.
I.
I JACKSON.
JACKSON I STONE. STONE I WILL I
WILL DIE.
FIFTEEN ZERO EIGHTY ONE OF FIVE
PASSES AS WELL.
CASA THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I
WILL SEE YOU.
MONDAY ON A. B. WANTED AS WELL.
COLLEAGUES WERE NOT TO
TRANSITION INTO THE
INFORMATIONAL SECTION OF OUR
HEARING YOU'LL RECALL THIS IS
OUR FOURTH FULL BUDGET HEARING
ON THIS YEAR. AND TODAY WE'RE
GONNA FOCUS ON AN AREA WHICH IS
THE RECEIVING MUCH ATTENTION
LATELY THAT'S A TWENTY SEVENTEEN
CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES.
I KNOW THERE BEEN A NUMBER OF
INFORMATIONAL HEARINGS BY OTHER
SET UP BY OTHER COMMITTEES BUT
WE ARE HEARING THAT TODAY. DUE
TO THE BUDGET IMPLICATIONS OF
THE FIRES ON AND TO DISCUSS HOW
THE STATE CAN BETTER ADDRESS
THESE TYPES OF DISASTERS MOVING
FORWARD.
AS YOU ALL KNOW THIS TWENTY
SEVENTEEN WILDFIRE SEASON WAS
ONE OF IF NOT THE WORST WILDFIRE
SEASON. ON RECORD IN TOTAL THE
WILDFIRES BURNED OVER ONE
MILLION ACRES OF CALIFORNIA
LANDED FORCED THE EVACUATION OF
OVER TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY
THOUSAND PEOPLE.
TODAY'S HEARING WILL BEGIN WITH
AN OVERVIEW OF THE STATE'S
DUTIES IN WELFARE RESPONSE
RECOVERY. A DISCUSSION OF COSTS
TO THE STATE ASSAULTED WITH WHAT
RECENT WILDFIRES AND LESSONS
LEARNED FROM THESE EXPERIENCES.
IN ADDITION WILL DISCUSS THE
FISCAL IMPACTS OF WILDFIRES ALL
LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND HEAR FROM
THE PERSPECTIVE OF LOCAL
ENTITIES THAT ARE OFTEN THE
FIRST RESPONDERS TO THESE
EVENTS.
LASTLY WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION
ON INVESTMENTS.
THAT THE STATE CAN MAKE TO
PREVENT AND PREPARE FOR FUTURE
WILDFIRES FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC
COMMENT.
WHILE LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL
AGENCIES WORK TOGETHER TO COMBAT
THE RECENT FIRES THERE IS
CLEARLY MORE THAT COULD BE DONE
TO BETTER PREPARE OURSELVES WITH
SIMILAR THAT'S THE FUTURE. WE
MUST BEGIN THIS DISCUSSION AND
PLANNING NOW FOR HOW TO BETTER
ADDRESS TO RESPOND TO THESE
WILDFIRES ARE BECOMING
INCREASINGLY MORE COMMON IN OUR
STATE.
PRIOR TO OUR FIRST PANEL US INTO
NIELSEN WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME
COMMENTS. SENATOR NELSON YOU
MADAM CHAIR AND THIS IS A MATTER
AFFECTING ALL IT.
I THOUGHT THESE WERE ONLY
PROBLEMS FOR MORE RURAL AREAS WE
NOW SEE THE IMPACT ON URBAN
AREAS.
AND I SEEN A CHANGE IN THE LAST
YEAR.
HISTORICALLY ARE FORCED IN OUR
WILD LANDS HAVE JUST BEEN LOCKED
UP AND LET HIM GO.
WELL NOW THERE SEEMS TO BE A
GREATER AND NECESSARY
RECOGNITION THAT THOSE FORCES IN
WILD PLANS NEED TO BE MANAGED.
NOT JUST LEFT ALONE.
MANAGE IT MEANS A LOT OF THINGS
BUT IT DOES MEAN REMOVING OLD
BURNED TREES.
AND BRUSHED THAT ACCUMULATES.
AND AS WE PROCEED.
WHAT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON IS NOT
JUST PUTTING OUT FIRES BUT
PREVENTING FIRES?
THANK YOU SIR WITHOUT ALL INVITE
THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE FIRST
PANEL TO JOIN US ON THE FIRST
PANEL CALLING FOR GONNA HEAR
FROM HELL AND KIRSTEN. OUT WITH
ELLIE ELSE OFFICE MARK.
DO YOUR DUTY THE DIRECTOR THE
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.
AND YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO CORRECT
ME IF I. BUT YOU THAT WHEN YOU
GET TO THE TABLE. AND CAN
PIMLOTT PIMLOTT DIRECTOR OF CAL
FIRE.
WE'LL ASK YOU ALL THE TESTIFY IN
THAT ORDER WILL HEAR FROM THE
LEDGE AND WAS OFF THIS FIRST.
THANK YOU WITH KIRSTEN.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS
MY NAME IS HELEN KIRSTIE WITH
THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE
SO MANY START BY PRESENTING JUST
A VERY HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE
STATE'S DISASTER RESPONSE
SYSTEM.
TALK ABOUT SENATE MADE ENTITIES
INVOLVED IN DISASTER RESPONSE
AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
FINDING FOR DISASTER RESPONSE
AND RECOVERY INCLUDING THESE
RECENT FIRES.
SO IF YOU.
LOOK AT YOUR HAND AT WHICH THE
SERGEANT SHOULD BE PASSING OUT
AND YOU ALSO SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR
PACKET.
I WILL START WITH PAGE ONE.
REFER TO PAGE ONE AND THERE'S A
LITTLE BIT OF A HIGH LEVEL
SUMMARY OF THE MAIN FEATURES OF
THE DISASTER RESPONSE SYSTEM IN
THE STATE. I'M NOT GOING TO LIE
TO DETAIL I KNOW.
THAT THEIR REPRESENTATIVES FROM.
YES AS WELL AS CALIFORNICUM
PUBLICLY BECOMING INTO SOME MORE
DETAIL AFTER ME BUT JUST TO GIVE
YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BROAD
UNDERSTANDING. OF THE STATE USES
THE STANDARDIZED EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OR SAM'S THIS
IS A SYSTEM THAT EMERGED AFTER
THE OAKLAND FIRES AT THE EARLY
NINETEEN NINETIES AND SENSE HAS
BEEN KIND OF THE GOLD STANDARD
FOR OTHERS TO ADOPT.
TO OTHER STATES AND THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TO ADOPT HAS A FEW
KEY FEATURES THAT I JUST WANTED
TO HIGHLIGHT. OF ONE IS THAT IT
DESIGNATES WHO'S IN CHARGE BOTH
IN THE FIELD AND SUPPORT
POSITIONS IN THE CASE OF A
DISASTER INCLUDING A FIRE. ON
THIS PROVIDES A CLEAR CHAIN OF
COMMAND SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS
THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES
I'M IN BECAUSE IT'S STANDARDIZED
AS. ADDITIONAL ENTITIES BECOME
INVOLVED IN RESPONSE AND
RECOVERY.
BAKING KIND OF PLUG INTO THE
SYSTEM.
SECOND.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE
SYSTEM REALLY TAKES A BOTTOMS UP
APPROACH SO IN MOST DISASTERS
IT'S THE LOCAL OFFICIALS ON THE
GROUND WHO ARE THE FIRST THERE
AND THEY'RE THEY'RE REALLY.
SEEING THE DISASTER IN MANY
CASES YOU KNOW THEY SET UP THEIR
INSTANT COMMAND SYSTEM ON THE
ADDRESS THE DISASTER IN MANY
CASES THE DISASTER NEVER REALLY
GETS BEYOND THE LOCAL LEVEL THE
LOCALS. DEAL WITH A TREMENDOUS
NUMBER OF EVENTS EVERY YEAR.
AND MANY OF THOSE.
THEY'RE ABLE TO HANDLE ON THEIR
OWN. FOR THINGS THAT GROW BIGGER
AND EXCEED THE CAPACITY OF
LOCALS.
THAN OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT
GET INVOLVED IN THEIR
OPERATIONAL AREA IS WHICH
BASICALLY COUNTY LEVEL.
ASSISTANCE IT'S PROVIDED EITHER
OH YES REGIONS AS WELL AS THIS
INTO STATE AS A WHOLE THE.
GETS INVOLVED.
I SO AT THAT POINT ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES ARE ACTIVATED AS
THEY'RE NEEDED.
AND ANOTHER KEY FEATURE WE JUST
WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE
STATE'S MUTUAL AID SYSTEM I KNOW
THERE IS A RECENT HEARING ON
THIS AND SO MANY MEMBERS
DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH BUT
IT'S IT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT
OF THE STATE SYSTEM. WERE
COMMUNITIES CAN HELP EACH OTHER.
AND NOT ONLY WITHIN THE STATE
AND THIS IS CERTAINLY THAT MOST
OF THEM USUALLY IS WITHIN THE
STATE BUT ALSO I'M IN SOME CASES
FROM OTHER STATES OR EVEN FROM
OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY AS
NECESSARY.
A COUPLE THINGS TO IT TO NOTE
ON AND THESE DISASTERS AS THEY
GET BIGGER.
AND THEY EXCEED THE CAPACITY OF
A LOCAL GOVERNMENT ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IS A
DISASTER DECLARATIONS CAN BE
MADE. SO ESSENTIALLY IF LOCALS
CAPACITIES EXCEEDED THIS THE
GOVERNOR CAN DECLARE A STATE OF
EMERGENCY I CAN PROVIDE SOME
ADDITIONAL RESEARCH RESOURCES
FROM THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN IF
IT EXCEEDS. REALLY THE STATE'S
CAPACITY THAN THE FEDERAL.
GOVERNMENT HAS A COUPLE OF
DIFFERENT DISASTER DECLARATIONS
THAT THEY CAN MAKE UP AND THEN
THAT MAKES MORE FEDERAL
ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE AND WILL
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
IN MY REMARKS GOING FORWARD. SO
IF YOU TURN TO PAGE TWO. WE
BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE SOME OF THAT
MAIN DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE
INVOLVED IN IN DISASTER RESPONSE
RECOVERY PARTICULARLY RELATED TO
FIRES THERE ARE MANY MANY STATE
DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE A ROLE AND
PLAY A VERY IMPORTANT PART. IN
RESPONDING TO DISASTERS INTO
FIRES THESE ARE JUST A FEW TO
HIGHLIGHT.
THAT WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT YOU'LL
HEAR FROM VERY SHORTLY THERE
REALLY A KEY ENTITY INVOLVED IN
COORDINATION. OF DISASTER
RESPONSE.
AND COORDINATION OF MUTUAL AID
I THEY'LL ALSO ADMINISTER THE
CALIFORNIA DISASTER ASSISTANCE
ACT PROGRAM AND THAT HELPS
LOCALS REPAIR THEIR THEIR
INFRASTRUCTURE AFTER DISASTERS
IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT STATE
PROGRAM.
IN TERMS OF FIRE RESPONSE THERE
ARE FEW KEY ENTITIES TO KEEP IN
MIND CAL FIRE OF COURSE BUT YOU
ALSO HEAR FROM. IS THE STATE'S
MAIN ENTITY INVOLVED IN FIRE
RESPONSE THERE PRIMARILY
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STATE
RESPONSIBILITY AREAS. THAT IS
ABOUT A THIRD O THE STATE. MUCH
OF THAT IS PRIVATELY OWNED LAND
BUT IT VARIES.
I'M ALSO WANTED TO KNOW THE
MILITARY DEPARTMENT CAN BE
BROUGHT IN TO PROVIDE SOME
ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE SO.
YES HAD THE ABILITY TO TO TASK
OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE.
SERVICES AND ASSISTANCE AND THEY
CAN CALL AND THE MILITARY
DEPARTMENT AS NEEDED.
RECOVERY OF COURSE IT IS
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND THERE
ARE ACTUALLY A HUGE NUMBER OF
DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE.
WORLDS AND NOT AS WELL COUPLED
JUST KEEP WANTS TO NOTE THE
DEPARTMENT TOXIC SUBSTANCES
CONTROL AND CALORIE CYCLE ARE
BOTH VERY INVOLVED IN DEBRIS
CLEANUP AND AS WE'VE SEEN WITH
THESE RECENT DISASTERS. THAT'S A
HUGE ISSUE IS CLEANING UP ALL OF
THE DEBRIS THAT'S LEFT OVER THE
ASHES OF A HAZARDOUS MATERIALS
OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS PLAY A KEY
ROLE IN THAT. AND ALSO JUST
WANTED TO KNOW THE DEPARTMENT
SOCIAL SERVICES THEY RUN
TEMPORARY SHELTERS BUT THEY ALSO
RAN A PROGRAM CALLED THE STATE
SUPPLEMENTAL GRANT PROGRAM. THAT
PROVIDES.
SOME CASH ASSISTANCE TO FOLKS
WHO EXCEEDED THEIR.
INSURANCE FEDERAL. FUNDING THAT
THEY'RE ABLE TO RECEIVE AND SO
IT MAY MAY NOT COVER EVERYTHING
THAT PROVIDES AT LEAST SOME
ASSISTANCE TO THOSE FOLKS.
WHOSE OTHER RESOURCES HAVE BEEN
DEPLETED.
SO IF YOU TURN TO PAGE. THREE.
ARE WE BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE SOME OF
THE STATE FNDING THAT'S
AVAILABLE FOR FIRE RESPONSE AND
RECOVERY THERE COUPLE KEY THINGS
TO KEEP IN MIND. THE BUDGET DOES
PROVIDE SOME BASE FUNDING THAT'S
AVAILABLE FOR FOR THESE
ACTIVITIES MOST NOTABLY
CALIFORNIA HAS ABOUT A BILLION
DOLLARS WORTH OF GENERAL FUND IN
ITS BASE BUDGET. BUT USE FOR
FIRE CONTROL RELATED ACTIVITIES
WATER THAT'S BASICALLY FIRE
RESPONSE.
THERE THERE'S ALSO ABOUT FOUR
HUNDRED MILLION IN THEIR
MERCHANTS HE FINDS A NOTE TO
FIND THAT THEY CAN ACCESS IF A
FIRE IS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH THAT
GOES BEYOND THE INITIAL TWENTY
FOUR HOURS OF OF RESPONSE PERIOD
AND SO. IT'S.
IT HELPS THEM AUGMENT THEIR
RESOURCES THERE ALSO THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET FOR EIGHTEEN
NINETEEN INCLUDE SEVENTY TWO
MILLION FOR THE CDA PROGRAM THAT
I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT HELPS
WITH LOCAL. INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M ALSO IN ADDITION TO THE BASE
BUDGET OF COURSE BECAUSE WE CAN
NEVER PREDICT WHEN WE'RE GONNA
GET A DISASTER.
AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST
AND AND RESOURCES OFTEN NEED TO
BE APPLIED VERY QUICKLY. A
STATUTE DOES ALLOW FOR MID YEAR
ADJUSTMENTS.
AS ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ARE
NEEDED THERE A COUPLE OF KEY
MECHANISMS THAT CAN BE USED
HELLFIRE Z. FINDS A NOTABLY CAN
BE AUGMENTED BY THE DEPARTMENT
FINANCE. FROM THE GENERAL FUND
AS NEEDED THEY PROVIDE SOME
NOTIFICATIONS THE LEGISLATURE
WHEN THEY DO THAT.
AND THEN ALSO THE DEPARTMENT
FINANCE CAN ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR
THE STATE'S BUDGET RESERVE FOR
STATE DECLARED DISASTERS AND SO
THAT'S ANOTHER KEY WAY. THAT THE
STATE CAN FIND SOME OF THESE
COSTS IF THEY HAPPEN. IN THE
CURRENT YEAR.
SO IF YOU TURN TO PAGE FOUR WE
SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE FEDERAL
FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE. FOR
VERY LARGE DISASTER THE
DISASTERS WON THEIR DECLARED
FEDERAL DISASTERS THERE'S OFTEN
SIGNIFICANT FEDERAL FUNDING IS
AVAILABLE. FOR A VARIETY OF
DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES INCLUDING
DEBRIS CLEANUP INCLUDING
REPAIRING INFRASTRUCTURE
INCLUDING ACTUALLY PREPARING
FOR.
OUR TRYING TO AVOID EYE DAMAGE
FROM FUTURE DISASTERS.
IN GENERAL THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TYPICALLY PROVIDES
ABOUT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF
COST SHARE.
AND USUALLY THE STATE COVERS THE
REMAINING TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OR
IN THE CASE OF LOCAL
INFRASTRUCTURE THE STATE WILL
PROVIDE ABOUT NINETEEN PERCENT.
LOCALS A PROVIDE ABOUT SIX
PERCENT THAT'S THE TYPICAL SORT
OF GENERAL WORLD. COURSE THERE
ARE EXCEPTIONS JUST TO MAKE A
LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED.
SO FOR EXAMPLE IN SOME
DISASTERS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
MIGHT COVER. ALL OF THE ELIGIBLE
COSTS IN THE FIRST THIRTY DAYS
OR NINETY PERCENT FOR THIRTY
DAYS SOMETIMES THEY COVER MORE
ALSO SOME ACTIVITIES ARE NOT
FULLY REIMBURSABLE.
THEY MIGHT NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR
REIMBURSEMENT AND SO IN SOME
CASES THE ACTUAL REMEMBERS MY
LEVEL ISN'T IT THAT SEVENTY FIVE
PERCENT BECAUSE SOME OF ITS
DECLARED INELIGIBLE.
ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE
TIMING OF THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS
CAN VARY SO THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS
GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FISCAL
YEAR WHERE THE EXPENDITURES ARE
MADE SOMETIMES IT CAN TAKE. A
FEW YEARS ESPECIALLY IF THERE
ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT TAKE
AWHILE TO COMPLETE.
SO IF YOU TURN TO PAGE FIVE. WE
SUMMARIZE THAT RESPONSE RECOVERY
FINDING THAT ASSUMES IN
SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN AND THE
CURRENT YEAR OFFER THE NORTHERN
AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FIRES
AND THIS IS ADDED THAT THE
PREPARATION OF THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET.
I'M I'M JUST BRIEFLY GONNA GO
OVER THIS YOU'LL SEE THAT
THERE'S A VARIETY OF FUNDING
ACROSS ABOUT ELEVEN DIFFERENT
DEPARTMENTS FOR A WIDE RANGE OF
ACTIVITIES INCLUDING RESPONDS.
YOU KNOW DEBRIS REMOVAL OTHER
KINDS OF ACTIVITIES ARE RELATED
TO SOME US EVERY COVERING AS
WELL.
I'M JUST A COUPLE THINGS TO NOTE
ON THIS TABLE YOU'LL SEE THAT
THE STATE. IS ANTICIPATED TO
SPEND ABOUT ONE POINT EIGHT
BILLION DOLLARS IN SEVENTEEN
EIGHTEEN ON ADDRESSING THESE
FIRES THAT SAY THAT.
A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY OF
COURSE.
BY THE GOOD.
THING IS THAT THE FEDS ARE
EXPECTED TO REMEMBER SAYS FOR A
VERY LARGE SHARE OF THOSE COSTS
AND SO NOTABLY OC IN THE IN THE
CHART WE'RE EXPECTING TO RECEIVE
OVER NINE HUNDRED MILLION IN
REIMBURSEMENTS IN SEVENTEEN
EIGHTEEN. WE'RE ALSO EXPECTING
TO RECEIVE CLOSE TO FOUR HUNDRED
MILLION IN EIGHTEEN NINETEEN.
ARE OF REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THESE
ACTIVITIES WERE DOING IN
SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN SO OVERALL
AND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION'S
ESTIMATING THAT BUT IT'S NOT
AUGMENTATION TO THE GENERAL FUND
THAT WILL NEED. SEVENTEEN
EIGHTEEN FOR THESE NORTHERN AND
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FIRES.
ABOUT THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY ONE
MILLION SO IT'S ABOUT TWENTY
PERCENT OF THE TOTAL COST SO
IT'S DEFINITELY THE FEDS ARE
HELPING QUITE A BIT. WITH
FINDING THESE ACTIVITIES.
IF YOU TURN TO PAGE SIX WE
SUMMARIES THAT FINDING THIS
PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET YEAR IN
TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN NINETEEN.
OF FOR THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
FIRES IN TOTAL SIZE THIRTY FIVE
MILLION DOLLARS AND YOU'LL SEE
THAT THE MAIN.
THE MAIN AREA WHERE THEY'RE
SPENDING PROPOSED IT BACK FULL
FOR LOCAL TAXES. TO THE
ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING TO
FULLY BACK FILL A TAX LOSSES FOR
THESE COMMUNITIES AND BOTH
SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN EIGHTEEN
NINETEEN THAT'S BUDGETED IN
THERE EIGHTEEN NINETEEN BUDGET.
ON AND THAT'S FOR BOTH PROPERTY
TAX LOSSES IT'S ALSO FOR HOTEL
TAXES AND SALES TAXES SO THAT
THE ESTIMATE OF THE. OF THE LOST
TAXES THERE THAT THEY'RE
PROPOSING TO BACKFILL.
ALSO FINDING PROPOSE FOR.
ASSISTANCE REBUILDING
INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOUSING
ASSISTANCE MONEY AND SOME
FUNDING FOR THE STATES OF MENTAL
GRANT PROGRAM. THAT'S ALSO
PROPOSE THEIR. EYES VERY
IMPORTANT I THINK TO NOTE THAT
THESE COST ESTIMATES ARE
PRELIMINARY THE ADMINISTRATION
HAS INDICATED THAT YOU KNOW
THESE WERE. ADDS UP THE
PREPARATION OF THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET ON OF COURSE THESE
DISASTERS DISNEY'S FIRES
PARTICULARLY THE SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA FIRES WHEN THEY
HAPPENED IN. DECEMBER AND IT WAS
VERY SHORTLY BEFORE THE
PREPARATION OF THE BUDGET SO
THERE ARE NUMBER OF CATEGORIES
THAT MAY NOT BE FULLY REFLECTED
PARTICULARLY FOR THE SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA FIRES. I'M IN THESE
NUMBERS AND AND CERTAINLY. WE
EXPECT THAT THESE NUMBERS MAY
CHANGE THAT THINK THE
ADMINISTRATION'S INDICATED TAT
THEY WILL LIKELY RETURN IN THE
SPRING ON TO UPDATE THESE
FIGURES BASED ON. THE MOST
CURRENT INFORMATION ON THE NEEDS
OF FOR THOSE FIRES PARTICULARLY
THEY SAID IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
WERE NOT ALL OF THEM COULD BE
TALLIED.
AS A PREPARATION OF THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET.
SO IF YOU TURN TO PAGE SEVEN. WE
SEPARATE SOME OF THE OTHER FIRE
RELATED PROPOSALS AND TWO
THOUSAND EIGHTEEN NINETEEN SO.
THESE ARE PROPOSALS THAT ARE
SPECIFIC TO THOSE NORTHERN AND
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FIRES WE
TALKED ABOUT THEIR JUST
GENERALLY FIRE RELATED.
IN TOTAL THERE'S OVER THREE
HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION FROM THE
GENERAL FUND AND FROM GREENHOUSE
GAS REDUCTION FIND I'M NOT GONNA
GO TO THE MALL THE INTEREST O
TIME. UP A COUPLE BIG ONES
HELLFIRE IS PROPOSED TO RECEIVE
A HUNDRED AND SIXTY MILLION FOR
FOREST HEALTH THAT'S ON TOP OF
ABOUT TWO HUNDRED MILLION THAT
THEY RECEIVED LAST YEAR SO THAT
SAYS. SIGNIFICANT. INVESTMENT IN
THAT AREA.
THERE'S ALSO CLOSE TO A HUNDRED
MILLION PROPOSE FOR FOUR
HELICOPTERS FOR CALIFORNIA
THAT'S NEXT BIGGEST PROPOSAL.
AND I AM YOU SEE HERE THAT THERE
ARE NUMBER OF OTHER ONES AS WELL
THEY'RE PROPOSING I THINK THE
SUBCOMMITTEES WILL ALSO BE
DISCUSSING HAS PROBABLY END UP.
AS PART OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE
PROCESS.
SO IF YOU TURN TO PAGE NINE WE
JUST HAVE A COUPLE THOUGHTS
GOING FORWARD I KNOW YOU HAVE A
WHOLE PANEL ON IT SO I WON'T
BELABOR THE POINT BUT. I'M
CERTAINLY I THINK THESE FIRES
HAVE HIGHLIGHTED. SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES WE HAVE IN THE STATE.
IN TERMS OF THESE AT THE
FORESTS AND FOREST HEALTH.
AND WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THE
FOREST AS I THINK YOU'VE HEARD
PROBABLY MANY TIMES THERE ARE IN
POOR CONDITION.
AND THAT REALLY INCREASES THE
RISK OF FIRES AND INCREASES THE
RISK OF MORE SEVERE FIRES AND
ALSO KIND DISEASE AN INFESTATION
THAT CAN MAKE. OUR FORESTS MORE
VULNERABLE. THERE'S A PRETTY
WIDE CONSENSUS THAT CERTAIN
TYPES OF ACTIVITIES ARE NEEDED
IN TERMS OF STANDING.
WHETHER THROUGH PRESCRIBED
BURNING OR MECHANICAL BURNING
BUT THERE REALLY ARE SOME
BARRIERS AND AND I THINK YOU'RE
PROBABLY HEARING SIGNIFICANTLY
MORE ABOUT THOSE. SOME OF THOSE
ARE COST.
BUT THEY'RE ALSO OTHER KINDS OF
BARRIERS AS WELL AND TURN IN
TERMS OF THE FACT HE GOT UP
MULTIPLE OWNERSHIP.
KIND OF PATCHWORK OF OWNERSHIP
PRIVATE FEDERAL STATE OF VARIOUS
ENTITIES INVOLVED YOU GOT
VARIOUS REGULATORY ISSUES SO
IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO THE FUTURE PANEL THAT
WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT IN MORE
DEPTH. AND I'M AVAILABLE TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU
HAVE ANY THANK YOU AND BEFORE WE
HEAR FROM CALIFORNIA ALL YES
SINCE MIST CURTAIN PROVIDED SUCH
A HIGH LEVEL OVER.
PRESENTATION WITH WHAT HAD NO
QUESTIONS OF HER BEFORE WE HEAR
FROM THE OTHER TWO LET'S START
WITH INTERNAL SAID.
THANK YOU FOR THE OVERVIEW.
ONE OF THE MAGNIFICENT THINGS
ABOUT. OUR RESPONSE.
THE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS IS THE
MUTUAL AID.
THEY'RE ALWAYS BONES BRINGS
TEARS TO MY EYES OF DRIVING
AROUND AND. OF THE RECENT FIRES
I'VE REPRESENTED OR. DO STILL
REPRESENT SIX OF THE SEVEN
COUNTIES. BUT YOU WATCH ALL
THESE.
RESPONDED COMING FROM ALL OVER
CALIFORNIA. NEW OREGON BORDER
FOR THE.
OUR BORDER WITH MEXICO.
IT IS MAGNIFICENT.
BUT HERE'S THE QUESTION. WHAT'S
OUR TURNAROUND TIME TOO FOR
REIMBURSING RESPONDING AGENCIES
HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT.
THAT.
YES WOULD BE BETTER POSITIONED
TO ADDRESS IN TERMS OF EXACTLY
HOW LONG IT TAKES US TO
REIMBURSE THOSE.
FOLKS ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S
FEDERAL FUNDING INVOLVED YOU
HAVE ANY COMMENTS DIRECTOR.
WELL SIR IT REALLY DEPENDS UPON
THE WHERE THE FUNDING SOURCES
COMING FROM IF IF IF IF THE
FUNDING SOURCES FROM A FEDERAL
FIRED AT THE WORDS IF THEY'RE
RESPONDING ON FEDERAL LANDS
SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LOT LONGER.
TIME TO BE ABLE TO GET.
THAT MONEY THERE'S A COST
APPORTIONMENT THAT'S DONE
TYPICALLY BETWEEN STATE LOCAL
AND FEDERAL DECLIVITY UNIFIED
COMMAND. TYPE OF SITUATION SO
THAT MAY TAKE A LITTLE EXTRA
TIME. IF IT'S STATE
RESPONSIBILITY AREAS WE WORK
VERY CLOSELY WITH CAL FIRE AND
AND OUR FOLKS IN THE FIELD. TOOK
TABLE WE CALL F. FORTY TWO WHITE
WHEN THE OF.
ASSETS DEMOBILIZE AND.
COURSE THIS PARTICULAR YEAR THE
VOLUME OF OF OF.
REMEMBERS MIXES IT WAS JUST YOU
KNOW EXTENSIVE.
THAT BAND MAKES THE LIMITS ARE
HARDER BUT WE TYPICALLY TRY TO
GET REIMBURSEMENT POLICE ON
STATE RELATED FIRES BACK OUT THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WITHIN YOU
KNOW SIXTY NINETY DAYS FROM THE
TIME THAT THEY ACTUALLY GET
DONE.
WE GET THE PAPERWORK COMPLETED.
LAST QUESTION FOR FOR NOW AND
THEN AN OBSERVATION.
IT'S A CONTEMPLATED ANY
PROPOSITION TWO MONEY WILL BE
DIRECTED TO THIS EMERGENCY
SITUATION.
RAINY DAY FUND.
RESERVE FOR A RAINY DAY FUND IT
A FINE.
I'M NOT AWARE OKAY YEAH I'M NOT
WEAR SANDALS MAYBE.
IT'S SO.
THERE IS THIS ABILITY TO USE
THE YOU KNOW THAT A SPECIAL FUND
FOR MY ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY AND
A NUMBER OF THAT THAT.
.
HE.
IS SHE IN THE ARM FINDINGS FOR A
NUMBER OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT I
WENT THROUGH FOR A SEVENTEEN
EIGHTEEN ARE ACTUALLY COULD BE
COMING FROM THE SPECIAL FUND
FROM ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTIES SO.
ON.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR PART.
LARGELY THE THE THE RESERVE FOR
WE USED A COLLAR ECONOMIC
UNCERTAINTIES OR. MARTIN TO
FUND.
IN YEARS PAST WHEN WE HAD SET
ASIDE FOR THIS.
DO YOU HAVE SOME FURTHER ABOUT
THIRTY THREE BUT I I BELIEVE
THAT WE MAY HAVE. UTILIZE SOME
OF THAT FUNDING FOR DEALING WITH
THE DEBRIS OPERATION IN THE
NORTHERN PART OF THE STATE THAT
THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS OPERATIONS
EXTENSIVE AND COSTS AND SO.
WE WE TAPPED OUT FRONT I
BELIEVE FRAT AND JUST AN
OBSERVATION. ADD THAT AS WE ARE
DOING THIS PREVENTIVE THAT AND
WE HAVE GOT TO INCLUDE. CODE
GENERATION.
AS A PART OF THE THE PLANT.
THAT SAID IT DOESN'T ASCENTIAL.
AND THAT WILL REALLY HELP US GET
RID OF SOME OF THESE.
TRASHY AREAS THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SENATOR ROTH
I MEAN I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THE
SUBJECT OF REIMBURSEMENT WE YOU
SPOKE OF. FEDERAL FUNDING
FEDERAL FUNDING REIMBURSEMENT
STATE. OBVIOUSLY SEVENTY FIVE
TWENTY FIVE I UNDERSTAND THAT
VARIES.
DO WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF ON
THE AVERAGE HOW LONG IT TAKES IS
INTO THE STATE TO MEAN I NOTICE
THE. ALLIANCE'S SOME MAY COME IN
THE CURRENT YEAR OTHERS OTHERS
REMEMBER SINCE MAY NOT COME
UNTIL THE FOLLOWING BUDGET YEAR
YEARS LATER.
WE MUST HAVE AN AVERAGE I THINK.
THERE ARE BEST GUESSES IN THIS
DID NUMBERS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE
THAT MANY ADMINISTRATIONS BEST
GUESS WHO ACTUALLY THEY'RE
EXPECTING THAT MOST OF THESE
MEMBERS MEN'S WILL HAPPEN AND
THAT CURRENT YEAR. ON THAT ABOUT
I THINK NINE HUNDRED OR SO
MILLION AND THAT WILL GET. QUITE
A FEW MORE IN THAT AND THE
FOLLOWING YEAR. THERE COULD BE
SOME MEMBERS MEXICO TRAIL BEYOND
THAT CERTAINLY AND ESPECIALLY IF
WE COULD HAVE SOME COSTS FROM
THESE FIRES FOR A NUMBER OF
YEARS.
AS LOCALS FOR EXAMPLE OF
REBUILD THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT CAN TAKE. A NUMBER OF YEARS
AND SO THEN OF COURSE
REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THOSE
ACTIVITIES WOULD ALSO TAKE A
NUMBER OF YEARS. BUT SO THE
REIMBURSEMENT TIMELINE IS REALLY
NOT A NEGATIVE FACTOR IN TERMS
OF BUDGET PLANNING BECAUSE WE
TEND TO GET MOST OF IT IN THE
CURRENT BUDGET YEAR YEAH WE GET
MOST OF YEAH IT'S STILL IT'S
STILL ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF
COMPLEXITY BUT IT'S NOT AS
PROBLEMATIC. PROBLEMATIC AS IF
WE WERE EXPECTING MOST OF IT TO
COME IN YEAH.
SIX YEARS OR SOMETHING MOST OF
IT'S GOING TO COME.
AT LEAST IS EXPECTED TO COME
RELATIVELY QUICKLY GOOD. THANK
YOU THANK YOU VENTURE.
SENATOR PAM.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION.
I NOTE THAT THIS INFORMATION
HEARINGS ON THE WILDFIRES IN
MOVING FORWARD SO I THINK WELL
THERE'S BEEN A LOT FOCUS ON THE
EXPENSIVE ACTUALLY FIGHTING THE
FIRES IN THE STORM. MEDIA.
AFTERMATH.
SIR THINKING LONG TERM. YOU
KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT STATE FUNDS
FOR TALKED ABOUT FEDERAL.
WHAT'S THE ROLE OF.
.
PRIVATE FUNDS NAMELY INSURANCE.
I WORSE ARE WHAT SHOULD BE OUR
EXPECTATIONS ABOUT INSURANCE
WHAT ROLE SHOULD INSURANCE PAY.
PLAY.
IN TERMS OF.
BOTH.
FOR KNOWLEDGE PRIVATE.
NO.
THAT INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS
INDIVIDUALS OTHERS OX ALSO
ACTUALLY TO WHAT DEGREE YOU KNOW
WHAT WHAT ROLE DOES IT PLAY FOR
EVEN GOVERNMENT ENTITIES YOU
KNOW WE HAVE STRUCTURES AND SO
FORTH OUT THERE WHEN THEY'RE
DESTROYED TO. BRING THE BACK OF
YOU PART ONE THE THINGS WE HAVE
TO FACE THIS IS THAT WE HAVE.
DESTRUCTION PROPERTY.
HANDS THAT'S PART OF TAX BASE.
RIGHT.
.
WHEN WE HAVE THESE EVENTS AND WE
HAVE FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS
GOING ON WHERE WE DOING IN TERMS
OF PREVENTION.
SO I WILL POINT OUT TO ME THIS
IS NOT THE WILD FIRES YOU KNOW
I'VE HAD TO VOTE FOR A COUPLE OF
TAX INCREASES TO. STRENGTHEN
LEVIES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY
TO PREVENT AND OF COURSE. WE
SERVE SAID THE TRADE OFF IS THAT
IT WAS LOWERED OUR FLOOD. BUT.
INSURANCE RATES BECAUSE SHOWED
OUR PREPARATION IS THERE SOME
OPPORTUNITY THERE IN TERMS OF
PREPARATION THE FUTURE IN TERMS
OF WHAT RATES INSURERS MAY.
CHARGE IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT
WE DO COLLECTIVELY ASIDE FROM
INDIVIDUALS HELL DOING WHAT THEY
HAVE AROUND THEIR HOMES IN TERMS
OF THE WAY WE DO BUILD OUTS AND.
LAND USE AND SO FORTH TO TRY TO
THAT COULD HELP.
THAT BASICALLY BE A WIN WIN.
THAT REDUCES THE RISK FOR
HOMEOWNERS BUT ALSO RECEIVES
REFLECTED IN REDUCTIONS IN THEIR
INSURANCE SO HE SPEAK TO THE
ROLE OF.
PRIVATE INSURANCE AND FUNDING
REBUILDING AND.
OF FOR THE FOR THESE DEVASTATE
COMMUNITIES.
I SURE WE HAVEN'T THAT I'D A
HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK ON THIS BUT
CERTAINLY ENSURE PRIVATE
INSURANCE IS A CRITICAL
COMPONENT OF THIS I MEAN THAT
PRIVATE INSURANCE IS. ULTIMATELY
GOING TO GOING TO. BE THE
BIGGEST CONTRIBUTOR THING THAT
THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE GONNA RELY
ON BECAUSE REALLY THAT THE
FEDERAL AND STATE ASSISTANCE
MINISTRY HAS THE SUBLIMINAL.
.
GRAND I MENTIONED CIVIL NO GRANT
PROGRAM BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW
THAT'S UP TO TEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS AND I THINK WE KNOW THAT
YOUR HOME IS IN CALIFORNIA ARE.
ARE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS
A PROGRAM AS WELL BUT YOU
THERE'S IS ALSO LIMITED IN TERMS
OF DOLLAR AMOUNT. IS I THINK IN
THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS AS WELL
SO YOU KNOW FOLKS ARE REALLY
GONNA HAVE TO RELY ON. LARGELY
ON THEIR PRIVATE INSURANCE.
AS AS SORT OF IT'S DESIGNED TO
DO AND AND GENERALLY.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST SOURCE OF
FUNDING FOR THOSE FOLKS IN TERMS
OF REBUILDING.
AND CERTAINLY THERE BEEN A
NUMBER OF OF.
YOU KNOW OF DIFFERENT
CONSIDERATIONS THAT COME WITH
THESE FIRES AND CERTAINLY SOME
FOLKS MAY HAVE FOUND THAT THEY
ARE UNDER INSURED AND I KNOW
THAT'S BEEN A BIG ISSUE.
AND SO IT'S I THINK IT'S
SOMETHING THAT WILL CONTINUE TO
HAVE TO WORK ON IN TERMS OF.
THINKING ABOUT WELL WHAT'S THE
STATE'S ROLE FRENCH YOU KNOW
FOR.
IN THIS SPACE.
AND.
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH SHOULD LOOK
AT THESE INDIVIDUALS. DO IN
TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THEY
HAVE ADEQUATE FIRE PROTECTION AS
WELL AS OTHER INSURANCE BUT IT'S
A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION
BECAUSE REALLY THAT'S THEIR HUGE
PLAYERS IN THIS AND THEY'RE
REALLY GONNA.
YOU KNOW IF PEOPLE'S ABILITY
REBUILD REALLY GOING TO DEPEND
ON ON THE INSURANCE MARKET A LOT
OF WAYS A SUB IF I CAN JUST
FOLLOW UP QUICKLY AND I THINK
ONE OF THINGS. AND THAT HE COULD
LOOK INTO THE TO GO IN THE
POLICY SIDE RIGHT SO WHAT
HAPPENS IS THAT WE TALK ABOUT
RECONSTRUCTION AND USE THEM AS
YOU ENSURE BASED ON QUOTE THE
VALUE THE HOUSE THAT'S REALLY
BUT WHAT TAKES TO. REBUILD YOUR
HOUSE YOUR BUSINESS AND SO FORTH
IT'S NOT LIKE A LIKE A SOLD IT
FOR HOWEVER MANY MILLIONS ON THE
MARKET'S REALLY ABOUT WHAT TAKES
YOU CAN RECONSTRUCT. ALSO
THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THINGS
WE CAN DO POLICY WISE AS
GOVERNMENT. THAT COULD REDUCE
THE COST OF RECONSTRUCTION AND
SPEED THAT ALONG SO.
SO I THINK THAT'S SO WE SHOULD
BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT POLICY
OPTIONS PEOPLE GOING YOU KNOW
AND OBVIOUSLY ONE LEVEL WE WANNA
BE SURE PEOPLE ARE FULLY
INSURED.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS THAT HE ONE
POINT TIME.
THE TENSE BUT.
I THINK
WE SHOULD ALSO THINK ABOUT.
WHAT CAN WORK SOME THINGS WE
CAN DO POLICY WISE THAT CAN
MAXIMIZE?
BUT PEOPLE ARE GETTING BACK FROM
INSURANCE AND OF COURSE HOLDING
TEACHERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR BEING
SURE THEY MEET THE.
THAT THE POLICY OF REQUIREMENTS
THAT THERE THAT IF SOMEONE HAS
INSURANCE TO HE TO GET THE
POLICY CONSEQUENCE FOR US
IS IS THAT SOMEONE NOT
REBUILDING.
THAT SAY TAX ISSUE WHEN IT
COMES TO PROPERTY TAXES SUPPORT
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHICH I'M SURE
MANY MORE BY TURN AROUND US AND
SAY STATE WE NEED HELP BECAUSE
WE'VE WE'VE JUST LOST ARE HUGE
OUR TAX BASE. THAT'S A SAFETY
ISSUE RIGHT PUBLIC SAFETY OF A
BUNCH OF. FILM BUILDINGS THAT
DON'T YOU NEIGHBORHOODS NOW
DOTTED WITH AND CONSTRUCTED YET
OUT OF BUILDINGS.
AND AND AND.
HEALTH ISSUES TO EVEN SO WE
SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT A
COMPREHENSIVE POLICY APPROACH
WOULD BE TO HELP SPEED RECOVERY.
AND RECOGNIZING THAT IN ADDITION
TO DISASTER RELIEF THAT WHERE
DOES THAT INTERFACE WITH PRIDE
WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE WHERE
EXPECTATIONS ARE. AND BE SURE WE
HAVE THE PROPRIOCEPTIVE LACE TO
ENSURE THAT PEOPLE GET THEIR
MONEY QUICKLY.
AND THAT.
AND THAT WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO
HELP REDUCE THE BARRIERS TO
PEOPLE. RECONSTRUCTING AND BE ON
THE DO IT AT THE COST. YOU KNOW
FOR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET
PUT WOOD WHICH IS REASONABLY
EXPECT BACK FROM INSURERS.
THANK YOU SENATOR NELSON YOU HAD
A FOLLOW UP WELL. IT IT IS ON
THE INSURANCE ISSUE. UP AND WE
MIGHT REQUIRE A HEARING ON THIS
AT SOME POINT BUT A LOT OF OUR
CONSTITUENTS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED
THAT. THEY'RE LOSING THEIR
INSURANCE.
NOW THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE.
AND BECAUSE OF THE COST OF
HOUSING. THAT I'VE BEEN FEARING
THAT A LOT OF.
FOLKS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE.
TO REBUILD. TO THE STANDARD THAT
THEY FORMALLY.
ENJOYED.
TOWARDS THAT END OF IT FOLLOWS
ON FENDER PANS QUESTION.
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND BY LAW.
AND MANDATES
THE HEART OF COST OF HOUSING IS
INCREASED INCREDIBLY.
AND AS WE ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
FOR THESE DEVASTATED AREAS WITH
THE FIRES WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE
STATE MANDATES.
THAT HAVE DRIVEN UP THE COST OF
HOUSING THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF
OUR CONSIDERATION. THAT IS
SIMPLY A STATEMENT FOR THE
RECORD. THANK YOU SIR SENATOR
MORE LOT.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR I'M SURE
IS ON PAGE TWO WEEK WE TALKED
ABOUT THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
SERVICES.
THEN WE REFERENCED THE
CALIFORNIA DISASTER ASSISTANCE
ACT PROGRAM.
WHICH FUNDS THE REPAIR OF LOCAL
INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WHAT WHAT'S
THE DEFINITION OF LOCAL
INFRASTRUCTURE? COULD BE A
VARIETY OF THINGS THAT COULD BE
YOU KNOW LOCAL BUILDING IT COULD
BE A SCHOOL BUILDING OR IT COULD
BE A YOU KNOW. ROEDERER UTILITY
OR IN THEIR VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
ALSO THEIR VERDICT ACTUALLY
SOME OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE
FUNDED OUT OF THIS PROGRAM
BESIDES JUST PURE
INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE.
WE FUNDED SOME DROUGHT MONEY
AND.
AND VARIOUS THINGS WITH TREE
MORTALITY AS WELL OUT OF THIS
THIS POT OF MONEY BUT
ESSENTIALLY.
IF IT'S A STATE DISASTER THE
STATE PROVIDES FUNDING OUT OF
THIS.
AS WELL AS IF IT'S A FEDERAL
DISASTER WE CAN PROVIDE YOU THE
STATE'S MATCH.
I'M FOR THOSE. TYPES OF
INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO IT'S
PRETTY PRETTY BROAD TERMS OF THE
TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE SO IS IT
JUST MUNICIPAL INFRASTRUCTURE
LIKE CITY ALL SCHOOLS.
COUNTY ROADS. YES IT'S NOT IT'S
NOT PRIVATE I'M GENERALLY IT'S
NOT PRIVATE AND THERE FOR
PROBABLY A FEW EXCEPTIONS LIKE
THE.
LIKE SOME OF THE SORT OF DEBRIS
TYPE OF STUFF BUT IN GENERAL IT
SPITS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE
WOULD BE. THINGS LIKE A LOCAL
CITY OR COUNTY FACILITY THE
GRANT OPERATED. PROGRAM.
YES THEY WOULD BE THEY WOULD IT
WOULD BE SORT OF A FRIEND ON A
REIMBURSEMENT BASIS FOR THEM AS
THEY REBUILD THEIR
INFRASTRUCTURE JUST APPLY FOR IT
IF YOU QUALIFY GREAT IF YOU
DON'T. THIS JUST WAIT DOES LET
LET ME CENTER IT'S BASICALLY.
THAT CALIFORNIA'S THAT'S
JUSTICES ACT.
IS DESIGNED TO.
GENERALLY BE A REIMBURSEMENT
BASIS BUT CAN BE ADVANCE MONEY
CAN'T BE ADVANCED TO A LOCAL
GOVERNMENT THAT MAY BE HAVING A
FISCAL PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE
DISASTER TO BE ABLE TO. ADDRESS
THEIR IMMEDIATE INFRASTRUCTURE
LOSSES ROADS BRIDGES PUBLIC
FACILITIES SCHOOL HOUSES.
AND.
AND IN SO IT'S IT'S IT IS VERY
BROAD AND IT COULD BE UTILIZED
ALSO TO HELP COVER THE COST OF
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. RESPONSE
COSTS THAT THE WORDS.
PICKS UP SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT
OF THE RESPONSE BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT AND PUBLIC HEALTH.
WITHIN THE COUNTY SO WE WORK WE
SEND A TEAM IN. TO THE F. IMPACT
THE COUNTY AND WE WORK WITH THEM
TO LOOK AT WHAT IS ELIGIBLE. FOR
A CLAIMING AND DOWN YOU KNOW
SOMETIMES IT GETS TO BE A LITTLE
BIT SKETCHY AND THAT YOU KNOW
THEY MAY HAVE A ROAD IT'S DAMAGE
BUT THEY LOOK AT THE PRE
EXISTING. ROAD CONDITIONS AND
THEN THEY MAKE A DETERMINATION
OF WHAT. NEEDS TO BE FIXED IT
REPLACED AND.
AND SO IT IS A IT IS A BROAD
PROGRAM AND AND WE CAN LEVERAGE
IN JAIL AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT
WAYS. AZALEA MENTIONED WE WE
LEVERAGE IT DURING THE DROUGHT
ODD TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE WATER
TANKS AND AND WATER DELIVERY
INTO.
PULERI COUNTY IN OTHER PARTS OF
THE STATE UP SO IT'S.
IT'S PRETTY GOOD PROGRAM AND IT
GETS AUGMENTED IF THERE'S A
FEDERAL DISASTER. BY THE FEDERAL
PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS WHICH
IS. WHICH IS A COMPLIMENT TO THE
CD A FORMER PUBLIC
INFRASTRUCTURE LOSSES.
THANK YOU THEN THE NEXT QUESTION
IS. ARE ON PAGE SEVEN WE WERE
LOOKING AT.
THE PROPOSALS.
AND WE ALWAYS SEEM TO BE LOOKING
AT. THE ACQUISITION OF.
SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT BUT SOME OF
THIS EQUIPMENT.
HAS LIMITED USE IT JUST KIND OF
BECAUSE IT THESE FIRES CAN BE
SEASONAL.
THEY JUST SORT OF SIT THERE FOR
ELEVEN MONTHS. AND I'M JUST
WONDERING IF WE HAD. A MUTUAL
AID AGREEMENT WITH.
INTERNATIONAL.
OPPORTUNITIES.
THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE AS
SUMMER WHEN WE HAVE WINTER.
AND WE HAVE AUSTRALIA THAT HAS
THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT
CALIFORNIA DOES.
AND IF WERE AT DIFFERENT SEASONS
CAN WE LOAD STEP UP INTO A C.
SEVENTEEN BOEING AND. YOU KNOW
BRING IT HERE.
AND VICE VERSA DO WE.
WE'RE GONNA WE LOOK STATEWIDE
BUT DO WE LOOK. AT OUR
INTERNATIONALLY I LIKE THE WAY
YOU'RE THINKING. ACTUALLY UP.
LET ME LET ME LET ME BACK UP A
SECOND OF FIRST PARTY STATEMENT
I COULD TELL YOU THAT THE MUTUAL
AID ASSETS THAT EXIST IN THE
RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING
REQUESTED. OUGHT TO EITHER
AUGMENT OR TO REPLACE. NOT ONE
OF THOSE RESOURCES SINCE FOR
ELEVEN MONTHS ONLY USE I DON'T
SEE THAT FIRE SEASON NOW IS YOUR
ROW BUT THESE ARE ALL. RISK ALL
HAZARD ASSETS THE MUTUAL AID
SYSTEM RESPONDS THE FIRES FLOODS
EARTHQUAKES.
MUD SLIDES TERRORISM ADVANCE YOU
NAME IT AND SO THERE'S NOT A DAY
IN CALIFORNIA THAT GOES BY WE'RE
NOT MOVING SOME LEVEL OF MUTUAL
AID.
IN COORDINATION WITH OUR LOCAL
AUTHORITIES FROM JURISDICTION TO
JURISDICTION TO BE ABLE TO
MITIGATE A PARTICULAR SITUATION.
THAT SAID WE'VE ALSO ENTERED
INTO AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE
AGREEMENTS WITH A NUMBER OF
FOREIGN ENTITIES BUT AUSTRALIA
IS A GREAT PARTNER WITH US THEY
DO HAVE. VERY SIMILAR CONDITIONS
THAT WE DO IN CALIFORNIA AND
WHEN IT'S OUR WINTER IT'S THEIR
SUMMER AND VICE VERSA. END UP WE
WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM AND WE
HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ALL
FOR EXAMPLE ON SITUATIONAL
AWARENESS.
TECHNOLOGY TOOLS FOR BEING ABLE
TO. MAXIMIZE.
EFFORTS BETWEEN OUR TWO
GOVERNMENTS TO BE ABLE TO DO
FIRE PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS AND
OTHER KINDS OF SITUATIONAL
AWARENESS. IN ADDITION.
WHEN WE HAD OUR WILD FIRES THIS
YEAR WE BROUGHT A WHOLE TEAM OF
AUSTRALIAN FIREFIGHTERS HERE TO
CALIFORNIA. THEY WERE ALREADY
WELL TRAINED THEY KNEW OUR
SYSTEM AS AS WE KNOW THERE IS
AND WE SENT PEOPLE THERE AS WELL
ON THAT I'M NOT ON OFF SCHEDULE
SO.
ARE WE ARE DOING THAT AND AND.
AND WE HAVE A GREAT
RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
WELL THEN BECAUSE THIS LAST YEAR
WAS PROBABLY THE WORST FIRE EVER
YEAR.
AND THEY DID COME AND HELP. OUT
THE FIRST TIME THE BY THE WAY
ARMY THEY BEEN HERE BEFORE THAT
WRITES A I I THINK THAT'S A
STORY THAT PROBABLY NEEDS A
LITTLE MORE.
BROADENING HER IS THAT WE SHOULD
TELL. I'M JUST WONDERING INTO
THEY COME HERE FOR MEETINGS WITH
YOU ABSOLUTELY YEAH THEN MAYBE
WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE HIM ON THE
SENATE FLOOR MADAM CHAIR. YOU
KNOW WITH A PROCLAMATION TO SHOW
OUR. APPRECIATION MAYBE WE CAN
MAKE ARRANGEMENTS. TO MAKE YOU
THINK ABOUT RECORDING WITH OUR
OFFICE AND ARE MORE LIKE A MAKE
THAT HAPPEN THIRD TO ACQUIRE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CHAIR OF.
THE VERY QUICK AS I HAVE SOME
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS RELATED TO
MUTUAL AID AND DEBRIS DEBRIS
CLINIC CENTRE I I NEVER WANNA
PASS A MOMENT TO. SAY THANK YOU
TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE
MONTY SERVICES WELLS THE CHIEF
OF CALIFORNIA. FOR THEIR
FANTASTIC WORK OF THESE PAST
MANY MANY MONTHS IN THE NORTH
BAY REGION IN THE FOUR COUNTIES
THAT WERE RAVAGED BY THE FIRE
STORM IN. THE COURSE OF THE LAST
THIRTY SIX MONTHS WITH LAKE
COUNTIES WELL THE VALLEY FIRE
THE CLEAN FIRE. A IS WELL IS THE
TOURISM IN THE ROCKY.
THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT ONE ISSUE
EVERY PERSON I WANT TO LEAVE
THAT I THINK THAT.
IN ON ONE OF THE WORDS INTO THE
DIRECTOR'S MATH BUT I DO THINK
THAT THERE IS. ROOM TO BE ON A
MODERNIZED A REIMBURSEMENT
SYSTEM. BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME
DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO DO.
AND AND BE ABLE TO ADVANCE IS
IT CANDIDLY NOT I WANT TO PUT
WORDS IN THE DIRECTORS ABOUT
IT'S MY OPINION BUT IT'S KONKIN
ITS ANTIQUITY. I AND I THINK
THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR
IMPROVEMENT. I DO THINK THAT
THAT IS ONE MAYBE NOT THE
DRIVING FACTOR BUT ONE OF THE
FACTORS WHY WE HAVE CHALLENGES.
WHEN IT COMES TO MUTUAL AID IN
LOCAL GOVERNMENT. RELEASING
APPARATUS AND PERSONNEL.
AND WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO BE
ABLE TO DISCUSS THAT.
IS WEALTH THROUGH THE CHAIR OF
COURSE AND I THINK THE OTHER
ISSUE IS ON CHURNS IS THAT. WE
HAVE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES WITH
SIX THOUSAND HOMES ON THE
GROUND.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING AN
IMMEDIATE PAY OUT OF SEVENTY
FIVE TO EIGHTY PERCENT FROM
INSURANCE CARRIER.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO
REBUILD.
AND THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT
WE HAVE OUT OF THOSE SIX
THOUSAND HOMES FORTY PERCENT ARE
UNDER INSURED.
IN THEIR SEVERAL FACTORS FOR
THAT. BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST
REASONS IS IT'S NOW RUNNING
ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS PER
SQUARE FOOT. BETTER REBUILD YOUR
HOME.
SO LET'S SAY YOU DO A CASH OUT
AT ABOUT SEVENTY FIVE TO EIGHTY
PERCENT OF YOUR POLICY. YOU
CAN'T AFFORD TO BE A REBUILD TO
WEAR YOUR SQUARE FOOT OF YOUR
HOME ONCE WAS.
IN YOU HAVE TWO YEARS TO BE ABLE
TO USE YOUR POLICY CASH OUT TO
BE ABLE TO START THAT PROCESS.
IN IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE
MILLION THIRTY PERCENT THIRTY
PERCENT OF THE HOMES AND A
FOURTEEN HUNDRED EIGHTY TWO THAT
WERE BURNED IN THE VALLEY FIRE.
LAKE COUNTY HAVE PULLED PERMITS
ONLY FIFTEEN PERCENT OF THOSE
HAD ACTUALLY BEEN BUILT. HOUSING
TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN IN
SEPTEMBER.
SO. I THINK WE HAVE SOME REAL
CHALLENGES AHEAD OF US IN A NEW
REALITY THAT WE'RE FACING BUT I
JUST FEEL MORE COMMENTS LATER ON
MADAM CHAIR BUT I THINK YOU FOR
THAT APPRECIATE THAT THE
DIRECTOR COULD INCLUDE A
RESPONSE TO YOU IN HIS
PRESENTATION THAT WOULD BE
WONDERFUL. SENATOR WHY CASKEY.
HELIO I WAS WONDERING A LAST
YEAR WE HAD THAT EVER POPULAR S.
SORRY FUN DEAD WE BACK FEEL FOR
THE FIRST YEAR WITH GIGI RF
FINDINGS. AT JUST ASSUME
ARGUMENTO THAT WE DON'T BACK
FILL THAT WITH GREENHOUSE GAS.
REDUCTION FUNDS WHAT IMPACT IS
THE LA YOU'LL THINK THAT THAT
WOULD HAVE ON FIRE FIGHTING THAT
LOST REVENUE.
YEAH RIGHT THAT'S.
NOT MY MAIN AREA OF EXPERTISE I
HAVE MY COLLEAGUE HERE WHO MIGHT
HAVE A FEW MORE THOUGHTS ON THAT
ISSUE.
A GOOD MORNING AS SHE IS WITH
THE ELLIS OFFICE.
IN THAT FUND WAS BACK FILLED
WITH ABOUT EIGHTY MILLION
DOLLARS OF OF G. OFF MONIES.
HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN USED FOR
DEFENSIBLE SPACE INSPECTIONS AND
SOME OTHER FIRE PREVENTION WORK
SO.
IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT. I GUESS
YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE MAYBE A
REDUCTION IN. THOSE TYPES OF
ACTIVITIES OR PERHAPS FUNDING
SHIFTING AROUND FROM SOME OF
COVERS OTHER ACTIVITIES.
UNWORTHY TO CONCENTRATE ON
DEFENSIBLE SPACE. AND I'LL BE
TALKING WITH THE GERMANS YOU'RE
RIGHT ABOUT PREVENTION VERSUS
SUPPRESSION HOPEFULLY HAVE AN
ANIMATED DISCUSSION BUT I SEE IN
THE BUDGET THE GOVERNOR HAS TWO
HUNDRED MILLION FOR HEALTHY
FORESTS. THAT'S THE PROPOSED
BUDGET SHOULD WE BE DIRECTING
SOME OF THAT MONEY TOWARDS
PREVENTION.
ANY IDEAS PERSPECTIVE.
WELL I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY WITH
THE THE JOB MONEY IS IN THE
FOREST HEALTH.
SECTOR MANY OF THOSE ACTIVITIES
MIGHT BE CONSIDERED FIRE
PREVENTION CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE
DOING FOR STANDING. UP AND
RESTORATION WORK THAT COULD
RESULT IN. MORE RESILIENT FORCE
THAT ARE LESS LIKELY TO.
EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT WILDFIRE.
HE WAS ALSO NOW SEEMS TO BE A
LITTLE BIT LOOSE I WOULD JUST.
NOTE THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR THANK
YOU WOULD YOU MIND IF MISTER BIN
LADEN RESPONDED IN HIS
PRESENTATION SINCE WE HAVEN'T
GOTTEN TO THEM I APPRECIATE THAT
I HOPE YOU'LL REMEMBER THE
QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE TO ADD TO
YOUR PRESENTATION. ANYONE ELSE
BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
TO DIRECTOR DIDN'T SHE.
OUT OF HERE GOOD MORNING AND.
.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND
THANK YOU TO THE LA O. I ACT
SHE'S REALLY LEARNING EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT IS A GREAT JOB. ON
EXPLAINING EVERYTHING I ONLY
HAVE TWO WORDS TO SAY NOW SHE
GOT COVERED ALL.
OF.
WELL LET ME START OUT BY SAYING
AND AND REITERATING.
CERTAINLY.
THAT TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN.
WILDFIRE SEASON IN CALIFORNIA
WAS NOTHING SHORT OF.
CATASTROPHIC.
YOU KNOW WHICH REALLY ULTIMATE
LEAVE RESULTED IN NOT JUST YOU
KNOW FOR IN THE NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA FIRES BUT BETWEEN THE
EVENTS IN THE SOUTH AND THE
NORTH.
IN REALLY A FOUR MONTH THREE TO
HAVE MY PERIOD.
HAD AS A STATE HAVING TO MANAGE
THREE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS
SIMULTANEOUSLY AT THREE
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE.
AND.
IN THE NORTHERN FIRES INVENTOR
AND AND AND AND SANTA BARBARA.
BOB WE APPROACH THIS THIS
EFFORT.
WERE KEENLY THROUGH AS THE
ELLIE I MENTIONED TO THE
STANDARDIZED EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WHICH HAS A.
STANDARDIZED APPROACH IN LAYERS
ARE BASED UPON.
THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM
THAT'LL TO BELIEVE ROLLS RIGHT
UP TO THE. TO THE TOP IN THE
STATE OPERATION CENTER WHERE WE
ASKED ACTUALLY ESTABLISH A
UNIFIED COORDINATION GROUP.
WHICH IS THE CABINET MEMBERS OF
THE GOVERNOR'S CABINET AND AND
KEY MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO SET
PRIORITIES AND SORT OF DRIVE THE
DECISIONS THAT. ARE BEING MADE
OR NEED TO BE MADE. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT.
OF THE DECISIONS IN THESE TYPE
OF EVENTS NEED TO BE IN SUCH A
WAY THAT.
OUT WE AS A PUBLIC SAFETY STAY
OUT IN FRONT OF THE EVOLVING
CRISIS AS IF WE START TO. FALL
BACKWARDS AND THE CRISIS GETS
OUT IN FRONT OF US IT DIGEST
EXPANDS EXPONENTIALLY AND WE
WERE ALWAYS ON A REACTIVE MODE
SO WE WANT TO MOVE VERY.
EXPEDITIOUSLY WE WANT TO HAVE
THE RESOURCES THAT ARE NECESSARY
TO MOVE IN THE PLACE SOMETIMES
PRE POSITIONED RESOURCES SO THAT
WE ARE.
WE CLOSING THAT GAP AND WE ARE
TRYING TO STAY OUT. IN FRONT OF
THESE EVENTS.
WHEN THEY HAPPEN.
I MENTION THIS THIS.
TEAM APPROACH. OH YES MYSELF.
FROM THREE PM OFTEN CAL FIRE OUR
COMMISSIONER HARPER TROLL WANT
STANLEY AND AND THE NATIONAL
GUARD ACTION GENERAL DAY PAUL
WHEN WE AS A TEAM.
ON THIS STATE PUBLIC SAFETY
FAMILY WORK TO ENSURE THAT ALL
ENTITIES ARE ALL AND ALL
AGENCIES ARE MOVING IN THE IN
THE SET OF PRIORITIES THAT ARE
SET IN MEETING THE OBJECTIVES
THAT ARE. BETTER RUN NECESSARY
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN
THESE PARTICULAR CASES ALL
POLITICAL VIRTUALLY ALL EVERY
STATE AGENCY IN SOME FORM OR
FASHION WAS INVOLVED. WITH
RESPONDING OR RECOVERING FROM
THESE EVENTS.
YOU KNOW WE CAME OUT OF.
OF OBVIOUSLY FIVE YEARS OR SO
OF OF DROUGHT IN A NUMBER OF
WILD LAND FIRES.
IN TWO THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN
OTHER WHERE IT CATASTROPHIC IN
THEMSELVES.
AND THEN AND THEN NOT FOLLOWED
BY SOME VERY SEVERE.
A VERY FOCUSED THE HEAVY RAINS
WHICH RESULTED IN LIEU OF ABOUT
FIFTY TWO OF THE FIFTY EIGHT
COUNTIES HAVING TO BE PUT UNDER
FEDERAL A PRESIDENTIAL DISASTER
DECLARATION SO WE ROLLED INTO
THESE FIRES ARE READY. MANAGING
A MAJOR RECOVERY OPERATIONS
WHICH INCLUDED THE ORVILLE SPELL
WAY AND AND ALL OF THE EVENTS
THAT HAD THAT CASCADED. OUTSIDE
OF THAT.
.
IN THIS CASE.
YOU KNOW THE THE FIRES THAT
THAT START OFF IN IN OCTOBER
REALLY BROKE OUT.
IMPACTING MENDOCINO SOLANO
CINNAMON APPLE LAKE YUBA. VIEW
NEVADA IN ORANGE COUNTY SO IT'S
MOSTLY ALL THE NORTH AND THEN IT
WAS ONE COUNTY IN THE SOUTH. OUT
BUT THAT BUT BUT THAT REALLY
SHOWED THAT THE. THE FIRE
WHETHER THE X. DICK WEATHER
CONDITIONS WERE EXTREME IN THE
STATE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME
NOT JUST REALLY ONE AREA BUT ALL
OF THE STATE WAS REALLY UNDER A
REALLY UNPRECEDENTED.
CONDITIONS AND DUMB AND
ULTIMATELY OVER THE NEXT FEW
DAYS SO WE'RE TALKING REALLY.
A FEW DAYS.
BURNING PERIOD OF OF AROUND
TWELVE TO TWENTY HOUR.
IN THAT TIME FRAME OVER EIGHTY
SIX HUNDRED STRUCTURES HOMES AND
BUSINESSES WERE LOST.
IMPACTING WHOLE COMMUNITIES AND
OF COURSE UNFORTUNATELY FORTY
FOUR. OF LIVES WERE CLAIMED.
.
THIS WAS OCTOBER THE EIGHTH IN
EARLY OCTOBER ALL.
WE WERE.
JUST BEING ABLE TO CATCH OUR
BREATH THEY THE FIRES WERE
SUPPRESSED WE IMMEDIATELY BEGAN
THE PROCESS OF OF A MOVING IN
THE RECOVERY. IN THE NORTHERN
FIRES WHEN.
WHEN THE FIRE BROKE OUT IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND UP
AGAIN.
WE SAW IN THAT PARTICULAR
INSTANCE AND IN JAPAN MARSHALL
MENTION THIS. FIRE WEATHER
CONDITIONS THAT.
LITERALLY WAR UNPRECEDENTED WE
WE HAD SOME YOU KNOW THEY HAD A
FIRE INDEX.
SCALE WHICH IN FOR THE FIRST
TIME EVER A DAY AND MOVE TO THE
HIGHEST OF HIGH LEVELS IS THAT
WHAT THEY CALLED PURPLE LEVEL.
AND.
IT ACTUALLY PROMPTED US TO PUT
ANOTHER ALERT. OUT TO ABOUT
TWENTY ONE MILLION PEOPLE IN THE
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COUNTY STEP
TO BE AWARE OF THESE CONDITIONS
OF. IT OF COURSE OF FIRES DID
BREAK OUT IN THE SOUTH WE HAD
FIRES IN SAN DIEGO WE HAD THREE
FIRES BURNING IN LOS ANGELES
COUNTY. AND THEN OF COURSE THE
VENT THE.
THOMAS FIRE STARTED INVENTOR
COUNTY WHICH LOOPED UP OVER OF
INTER COUNTY AND CAME DOWN IN
THE SANTA BARBARA COUNTY.
VINTER THE THOMAS FIRED OUT
BEING THE LAW STATES LARGEST
FIRE IN ITS HISTORY
UNFORTUNATELY RESULTED IN ONE
TRAGIC LOSS OF A COW
FIREFIGHTER.
WHO WAS OUT DOING HER OWN OR
WORK IN DOUBT? AND LOST HIS LIFE
IN THAT THAT FIRE.
.
OKAY. BACKFIRE WAS CHALLENGING
AND END UP YOU KNOW THE
RESOURCES THAT WE COMMITTED
THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
WAS PHENOMENAL WE TALK ABOUT THE
MUTUAL AID SYSTEM I CAN'T SPEAK
ENOUGH ABOUT. BAD AND YESTERDAY
COULD BE THERE AND THAT THAT
COULD BE THERE NEEDS TO BE.
MODERNIZATION OF THAT SYSTEM IS
A FIFTY YEAR OLD SYSTEM.
WE HAVE UTILIZED IT FOR ALL
DIFFERENT THINGS IT'S A GREAT
SYSTEM.
.
THE FOLKS THAT WERE SITTING ON
THE DIET FOR YOUR SITTING BACK
FIFTY YEARS AGO THAT. CODIFIED
THIS SYSTEM HAS SOME GREAT
VISION AND NOW WE'VE UTILIZED
OVER THESE YEARS AND NOW IT'S
TIME TO. IMPROVE IT BECAUSE WE
ARE SEEING CONDITIONS UNLIKE
WE'VE SEEN BEFORE EXTREME
CONDITIONS AND. THE REQUIREMENT
FOR RESPONDING AND GETTING ON
THE GROUND FASTER TODAY.
THEN WHAT IT WAS BEFORE THE
MUTUALLY SYSTEM HISTORICALLY WAS
DESIGNED AS SORT OF. IT'S LIKE A
BOLSTERS UP LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S
RESPONSE WHEREAS LOCAL
GOVERNMENT RESPONSE AND WHEN
THEY NEED HELP THEY CALLED
MUTUAL AID IN THIS CASE BY THE
TIME THEY MAKE A TELEPHONE CALL.
THEY'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE POWER
CURVE AND THAT IS WHY I TALKED
ABOUT EARLIER TRYING TO STAY OUT
IN FRONT SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE
TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT PARTNERS. IN
BEING ABLE TO NOT JUST GIVE THEM
GOOD PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS WHERE
THE FIRE IS GOING TO HAPPEN BUT
A PRE POSITIONED RESOURCES. AS
NECESSARY AND.
MANY OF THOSE RESOURCES THEY
WERE FIGHTING THE NORTHERN FIRES
WERE THEN REALLOCATED INTO
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
ALL THROUGH CHRISTMAS AND NEW
YEAR'S.
UNTIL.
YOU KNOW THE WEATHER THE FIRE
WHETHER IT WAS AN IMPRESSIVE
AMOUNT OF FIRE WHETHER I WE WE
CAN'T SAY WHEN IS IT GOING TO
CHANGE BECAUSE.
IT WAS REALLY IMPACTING.
THIS THE ENTIRE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. ARM. UNFORTUNATELY
WHAT HAPPENED AT THE THOMAS FIRE
IS THAT THE.
OUNTAINOUS AREA THAT SAT ABOVE
THE COMMUNITIES OF INTER AND
SANTA BARBARA IS THE LOS PADRES
NATIONAL FOREST IN. THE FIRE
THAT CAME THROUGH THERE WAS SO
EXTREME THAT IT LITERALLY BURNED
ALL OF THE WATERSHED OUT AND IT
DENUDED THOSE MOUNTAINS.
AS YOU FLEW OVER WHICH I DID IT
I WAS I WAS TAKEN BY THE
ENORMITY OF THE LAND THAT HAD
BEEN BURNED OUT AND WAS JUST
LITERALLY.
MOUNTAIN AFTER MOUNTAIN OF NOT A
STITCH OF OF OF VEGETATION AND
WE KNEW RIGHT THEN THAT WE IF WE
HAD A RAIN OF THAT WE WERE GOING
TO BE IN A REAL BAD SITUATION SO
WE. LOOK AT WHERE THE HIGH
PRIORITY HIGH PROBABILITY AREAS
WERE WE ENGAGED.
CAL FIRE THE CALIFORNIA
GEOLOGICAL SURVEY USGS AND
OTHERS TO GO IN DEPARTMENT OF
WATER RESOURCES IN CAL TRANS TO
MAKE ASSESSMENTS OUGHT TO
DETERMINE HOW AND WHERE
POTENTIAL MUDFLOWS COULD HAPPEN.
AND WE KNEW THAT THE MUD FLOWS
IN SANTA BARBARA WERE POTENTIAL
AND WE WORK WITH LOCAL
GOVERNMENT.
TO BE ABLE TO PUT OUT
INFORMATION AND AND AND WARNINGS
OUT.
OF AN UNFORTUNATELY THE MUD
SLIDES DID OCCUR THERE AND THEY
WERE LITERALLY.
CATASTROPHIC I'M PRESIDENT
TAKING OUT THE THE COMMUNITY OF
MODEST CEO.
AND UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT TWENTY FOOT HIGH WALL OF
MUD.
HOLDERS AND OTHER KINDS FOR THE
BREEZE TAKING OUT HUGE NUMBERS
OVER A HUNDRED HOMES WERE LOST
AND UNFORTUNATELY TWENTY TWO.
MORE FATALITIES.
ARE EFFECTIVE AND THIS IS
STAGGERING IN A THREE MONTHS
SPAN BETWEEN THE NORTH BAY FIRES
AND THEN THE MODESTY TO MUD
SLIDE THREE MONTHS.
REALLY WAS MOST DESTRUCTIVE
PERIOD IN IN THE STATE'S HISTORY
OUT WE LOST OVER ELEVEN THOUSAND
HOMES AND BUSINESSES.
IN THAT THREE MONTH PERIOD AND
WE WERE. ACTIVELY WORKING TO NOT
JUST CONTINUE TO RESPOND
RESPONDING NOW WITH FIRE ASSETS
AND AND AND OTHER KINDS OF
ASSETS NATIONAL GUARD HIGHWAY
PATROL. CAL FIRE OUR LOCAL FIRE
IN THE HOLE TOOL BOX WAS THROWN
AT THIS BUT WE WERE ALSO
IMMEDIATELY HAVING TO BEGIN THE
PROCESS. FOR BEGINNING THE
DEBRIS CLEARANCE A MONUMENTAL
TASK. OF HAVING TO CLEAR OUT THE
DEBRIS IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
MORE DEBRIS THE LARGEST THE PRE
OPERATION SINCE THE NINETEEN OH
SIX EARTHQUAKE TO BE ABLE TO
CLEAR ALL THAT OUT WITH THE CALM
YACHT. THAT THE SOONER WE CAN
GET THOSE COMMUNITIES CLEARED
THE SOONER WE CAN GET THAT
DEBRIS OUT THE SOONER THAT
COMMUNITY CAN REBUILD AND GET
THAT TA BASE GOING AGAIN. AND
GET THOSE STICKS MOVING SO THAT
WE CAN GET HOMES BUILT IN THOSE
COMMUNITIES SO WE SAID VERY CRAP
AGGRESSIVE METRICS EARLY ON. TO
BE ABLE TO GET GET THE THE
DEBRIS CLEARED OUT IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA WHILE STILL
RESPONDING. TO THE SOUTH.
BOB THROUGHOUT THE MUTUAL AID
BETWEEN ALL REALLY OCTOBER AND
IN DECEMBER OF MORE THAN A
THOUSAND FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
RESPONDED TO THE LOCAL LEVEL IN
ADDITION TO A WE S. IN
CALIFORNIA'S. AND OTHER STATE
ASSETS OF FIRE AND OVER EIGHT
THOUSAND FIRE FIGHTING PERSONNEL
THAT WAS JUST FROM THE STATE
ADDITIONAL FOUR HUNDRED. OUT AS
THE FIRE ENGINES FROM STATES AS
FAR AWAY OF UTAH UP COMING INTO
CALIFORNIA MONTANA. GREAT
SUPPORT THROUGH THE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE COMPACT UP
A COMPACT THAT YOU ALL ARE
CODIFIED IN YOUR EFFORTS TO MAKE
SURE THAT CALIFORNIA HAS GOOD
PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR. WITH OUR
STATE.
US STATES THEY'RE AROUND US WE
REALLY COUNT ON THAT.
.
SO ARM OF V. STATE OPERATIONS
CENTER IN OUR REGIONAL CENTERS
THE CAL FIRE CENTERS REALLY WERE
FULLY OPERATIONAL ALMOST ALMOST
THIRTY FIVE TO FORTY PERCENT OF
THE YEAR TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN
WHERE THEY WERE.
COMMITTED TO DEALING WITH THOSE.
OPERATIONS.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
RECOVERY.
.
THE RECOVERY EFFORTS AS I SAID I
JUST STARTED TO MENTION ARE
REALLY STARTING IN OCTOBER WE'RE
NOW JUST TODAY'S MARCH THE
FIRST.
I AM REALLY.
HAPPY TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW IN
THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WE'RE
TALKING EIGHTY.
NINE HUNDRED STRUCTURE FOR SHOW.
WE ARE.
THROUGH VERY TREMENDOUS.
EFFORTS.
ARE IN IN REALLY IN IN JUST
FOUR MONTHS GOING TO HAVE ALL
OF.
THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA COUNTIES
CLEANED AND CLEARED OF DEBRIS.
WHILE STILL WORKING ON. THE
BREEZE IN THE SOUTH AND WE WILL
HELP BY MID APRIL VIN TERRAKOM
PUT LEE CLEARED OUT. AND AS WELL
AS.
SANTA BARBARA WITH ALL THE MUD.
DEPENDING ON WHAT'S HAPPENING
TODAY.
TO DATE WE HAVE ANOTHER RAIN
EVENT COMING IN THE SANTA
BARBARA AND AS OF NOON TODAY
THAT WILL BE MANDATORY
EVACUATIONS. DONE IN THE SAME
MINUS YOUR AREA SO WE'VE GOT A
LOT OF REPORTS WHEAT RESOURCES.
ARE BOTH UP A CHEAP COME ON MY
ORGANIZATION WORKING WITH A
NUMBER OF OTHERS TO PRE
POSITIONED RESOURCES DOWN THERE.
BOB WE DO HAVE A LOT MORE TO DO
EVEN THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED A
GREAT DEAL ALL IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA.
I'M SORRY IN IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA UP WE'VE SPLIT UP
THOSE COUNTIES THAT WERE
IMPACTED UNTIL A BIT ABOUT THE
STRATEGY THAT WOULD BE FOLLOWED.
YOU REVIEWED AND ABOUT A
COUNTIES.
WERE DESIGNATED.
AND WE TASK CAL RECYCLE AND THE
TSC TO BE THE PRIMARY ENTITIES
THAT WOULD GO IN AND REMOVE THE
DEBRIS. IN THOSE IN THOSE
COUNTIES THE DTS SEE THE FIRST
THING YOU HAVE TO DO WHEN YOU DO
DEBRIS REMOVAL IS YOU HAVE TO GO
AWAY AND AND AND REMOVE ALL THE
HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE.
PAINTS PESTICIDES PROPANE IS ALL
OF THAT THAT HAS TO BE CLEARED
FIRST AND CERTIFIED AND THEN.
THROUGH A PROCESS THAT WE WE
USE WITHOUT A GETTING A RIGHT OF
ENTRY FROM EACH H. HOMEOWNER. WE
COME IN AND WE DO THE DEBRIS
OPERATIONS USING CONTRACTORS
THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
UNDER CONTRACT. IN CINEMA LAKE
NAPA IN MENDOCINO THE SOURCE
STORY WAS A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT.
IT WAS SUCH A ENORMITY GIVEN
EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON AND
THE FACT THAT WE HAD OTHER
EVENTS THAT WERE HAPPENING IN
THE STATE WE TURN TO OUR
PARTNERS AT FEMA.
TO REQUEST THAT THE ARMY CORPS
OF ENGINEERS CAME IN TO BE THE
PRIMARY AGENCY TO. LEAD THE
DEBRIS CLEARANCE OPERATION LET
ME BACK UP AND SAY THAT FOR A
SECOND BEFORE I GO TO FAR ON
THIS AND JUST SAY THAT. UP ALL
EARLY ON.
.
WHEN THE FIRES BROKE OUT OF.
ALMOST WITHIN HOURS OF THESE
FIRES BREAKING OUT WE WERE ABLE
TO WORK WITH WORKING WITH FEMA.
UP TABLE WE CALL FIRE MANAGEMENT
ASSISTANCE GRANTS. F. MAGS ARE
FIREMEN MISSES IT GRANTS ARE
COME OUT OF THE STAFFORD ACT AND
AND THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY
DESIGNATED TO BE ABLE TO. HELP
STATE LOCAL RESPONDERS BE ABLE
TO GET FINDS THAT THEY MAY NEED
SO THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION
ABOUT GETTING THE KIND OF
RESOURCES YOU NEED. ALL
ULTIMATELY WE HAD MULTIPLE BACK
WE HAD THAT THE GREATEST NUMBER
OF F. MAKES IN THE HISTORY OF
CALIFORNIA IN THE TIME FRAME
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ABOUT
ALL THESE FIRES BUT ULTIMATELY
ALL OF THOSE GOT ROLLED UP INTO
PRESIDENTIAL DISASTER
DECLARATIONS THAT WE GOT.
THROUGH ALL OF THESE COUNTIES
AND I I WOULD HAVE TO SAY FOR
THE RECORD THAT OUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH FEMA REGION NIGHT IN OUR
ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION TO BE ABLE TO
GET.
THESE RESOURCES HAS BEEN.
EXCEPTIONAL AND.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN THERE WITH
US EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AND WE
INCORPORATED WE INCORPORATED THE
FEMUR REGION NINE ADMINISTRATOR
INTO THIS. TEAM OF HELLFIRE NO
WE ASKED AND CAL GARDENS EACH
PIECE SO THAT THAT FEMA REGIONAL
MINISTRY THERE WAS WITH US ON
THE GROUND EVERY STEP OF THE
WAY.
COULD SEE IT FIRST HAND AND
COULD BE ALREADY CLEARING THE
PATHWAY BY PHONE BACK TO
WASHINGTON TO ENSURE THAT WHEN
THE REQUESTS WERE THROUGH COMING
THROUGH THAT THEY WERE. ASKED
REMINDERS AS POSSIBLE.
.
SO IN IN THE IN YUBA BUTANE
ABOUT A COUNTIES THEY ENDED UP
MOVING CLOSE TO SIXTY THREE
THOUSAND TONS OF DEBRIS WHICH
WERE ALL THE WAY. THEY MET ALL
OF THEIR METRICS AND TIME THOSE
COUNTIES HAVE BEEN CLEAN FOR A
WHILE AND ALL THOSE WITH THOSE
UP PARCELS THAT RETURN BACK TO
THE COUNTY FOR BEING USED FOR
REBUILDING. IN AND SAID I'M A
LAKE NAPA AND MENDOCINO COUNTY.
UP TO THIS DEBATE WE WE MOVE
CLOSE TO ONE POINT SIX MILLION
TONS OF DEBRIS. THAT'S ALMOST TO
GOLDEN GATE BRIDGES OF DEBRIS.
THAT WE HAVE MOVED OUT OF THERE
IT'S BEEN A MASSIVE OPERATION.
IT'S BEEN A COMMON IT COM
COMBINED EFFORT BETWEEN US ARMY
CORPS OF ENGINEERS USING THEIR
CONTRACTS AND AND.
WE ASK THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
USING THEIR CONTRACTS TO BE ABLE
TO BRING.
DEBRIS CONTRACTORS AND HOLLERS
ANOTHER KIND OF SPECIAL STAND.
AND WE REALLY FOCUSED AND
FOCUSED AND AND PRIORITIZED
HIRING LOCAL USING STATE IN
STATE. OF CONTRACTOR RESOURCES
CONSTRUCTION RESOURCES ALL IT
WAS A IT WAS A PREMISE THAT A
REQUIREMENT OF ALL OF THOSE SO
THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT.
THAT NOT ONLY HIRING LOCAL WOULD
HELP LOCAL ECONOMY BUT WE WOULD
KEEP ALL OF THAT.
THAT IT THAT WORK IN THE STATE
OF COURSE SAME THING IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA AS WELL. AND IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
PRINTER HAD INITIAL SEVEN
HUNDRED OR SO STRUCTURES THAT
WERE LOST WERE ROUGHLY AT TO
THIS POINT ABOUT THIRTY PERCENT
COMPLETE.
WITH ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED PARCELS
REMAINING TO BE.
CLEARED AND.
.
WE'VE DONE SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY
REMOVAL BITTER CALLIE UTILIZING
CALORIE CYCLE CARRY CYCLE IS THE
PRIMARY. ENTITY THAT'S WORKING
US OF INTER COUNTY.
SET A LOS ANGELES TO SAN DIEGO
COUNTY WHICH ALSO HAD A NUMBER
STRUCTURES LOST UP WITH SUPPORT
OF BO YES AND AND FUNDING FOR
FEMA ARE ARE ARE TAKING ON THE
DEBRIS OPERATION ON THEIR OWN
AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB IN
BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
BEN IN SANTA BARBARA COUNTY.
THESE DEBRIS FLOWS ALL REALLY
PRESENTED US A COMPLEX SET OF
CHALLENGES WE HAVE NOT REALLY
SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT ONE
POINT. WHEN YOU LOOKED AT IT AND
YOU SAID WELL THAT THAT CATCH
BASIN IS COMPLETELY FULL TO THE
TOP. OF THE BRIEF THAT'S NOT A
CATCH BASIN THAT WAS HIGHWAY ONE
A ONE IT WAS COMING THROUGH
SANTA BARBARA.
ONE OF ONE WAS SHUT DOWN FOR
TWO WEEKS THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
BUT WITH ALL THE CATCH BASINS
WERE SELECTED CATCH BASINS
ELEVEN CREEK BEDS ALL OF THEM
WERE FULL TO THE BRIM WE NEED TO
WORK EXPEDITIOUSLY TO GET.
THOSE THOSE THROUGH WORKING
WITH THE COUNTY. TO GET UP
DEBRIS ON THE PUBLIC WRITER
WASTE CAL TRANS THAT A FABULOUS
JOB IN GETTING THAT ONE ONE A
ONE CLEAR I'VE I'VE I'VE JUST
NEVER SEEN THEM. IT WAS A
TREMENDOUS EFFORT TO GET ONE A
ONE CLEARED AND THEN.
AND THEN AGAIN WE BROUGHT IN
THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO
FEMA TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND
WITH THAT WE ASKED. TO BE ABLE
TO START GETTING THOSE CATCH
BASINS CLEARED THE KEY OBJECTIVE
THERE WAS THAT WE KNEW ANOTHER
STORM WAS GOING TO COME IN IF WE
COULD NOT GET THE CATCH BASINS
IN THE CREASE CLEARED. AS JOB
ONE OF MORE MORE DEBRIS WAS
GOING TO COME DOWN AND CAUSE
FURTHER DAMAGE SO WE'RE IN A
BETTER PLACE TODAY ARM ALSO
THERE THERE THERE. THERE IS NO
QUESTION PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET
OUT OF THE AREA AND THE SHERIFF
IS MAKING SURE THAT. THOSE ARE
BACK THOSE EVACUATIONS TAKE
PLACE.
TODAY.
AND I THINK THAT WE'LL SEE HOW
THINGS GO IN THE NEXT.
TWENTY FOUR FORTY EIGHT HOURS.
.
NEVER THE LESS ARM.
THESE OF THESE EVENTS AS SANTA
BARBARA PRESENTED SOME
CHALLENGES WE HAD NOT SEEN
BEFORE LITERALLY.
WHOLE. PROPERTY LINES HAVE BEEN
RE.
STRUCTURED WHEN THE DEBRIS CAME
DOWN IF YOU OWNED YOU KNOW AN
ACRE TO BLAME THAT OCCURRED TO
LANCE NOT THERE ANYMORE HOW DOES
AN INDIVIDUAL DEAL WITH THAT WE
TALK ABOUT INSURANCE AND.
FATHER'S INSURANCE LOOK AT THIS
AND I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT
FOR THE MOST PART AND WE HAVEN'T
GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ALL THE
INSURANCE COMPANIES YET.
INSURANCE COMPANIES A MODEST CEO
MOST OF THEM HAVE AGREED TO TIE
THE LOSSES TO THE FIRE AND NOT
TO THE FLOOD WHICH IS A HUGE
DEAL BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW. FLOOD
INSURANCE IS A COMPLETELY
SEPARATE DEAL RIGHT SO SO THAT
WAS A WIN AND I THINK THAT THE
THE THE ENTRANCE COMPANIESWERE
WERE GOOD ABOUT THE ABOUT BUT
THE INSURANCE COMMISSIONER AND
I'VE TALKED MANY TIMES AND. AND
HE HAS BEEN ON THE GROUND DOWN
THERE AND AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING
WITH FEMA. ON AND WE'RE LOOKING
AT A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS OF
FEDERAL PROGRAMS ARE THEY COULD
PICK THAT COULD BE LEVERAGED TO
MAYBE COME BACK IN AND DO SOME
BUYOUTS OF LAND.
WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE
COUNTY.
OR THE TOWN AMONG THE CEO WILL
EVER BE ABLE TO BE BUILT IN SOME
OF THOSE AREAS AGAIN SO EVEN
THOUGH YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR
THIRTY YEARS. THAT'S NOT GONNA
HAPPEN ANYMORE AND SO WE HAVE TO
THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR
THE HOMEOWNER.
.
PART OF THE PART OF THE FEDERAL
PROGRAMS WHEN THEY WHEN THEY
WERE MADE AVAILABLE WERE.
WELL OVER THREE DIFFERENT
PROGRAMS THAT WERE BEFORE OPENED
UP FOR US ONE WAS A PUBLIC
ASSISTANCE THAT'S THE. WHITE THE
CDA THAT'S FUNDING THAT WOULD
COME IN TO HELP OFFSET THE COST
OF YOUR EMERGENCY ROOM
PROTECTIVE MEASURES YOUR
EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
DEBRIS CLARENCE.
ALSO.
INFRASTRUCTURE LOST SO ROADS
BRIDGES AND PUBLIC FACILITIES.
AND THEN THEY ALSO OPENED UP A
PROGRAM CALLED INDIVIDUAL
ASSISTANCE THIS IS INSISTENCE
THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE
SUSTAINED LOSS AND DEPENDING ON
YOUR ELIGIBILITY.
YOU COULD GET UP TO A MAX GRANT
OF FORTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS
AND IF YOU COULD GET THE MAX
GRANT OF FORTY TWO THOUSAND OR A
GRANT TO FORTY TWO THOUSAND
DOLLARS. ASIDE GRANT OF
INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE BAND YOU
WOULD BE ELIGIBLE AUTOMATICALLY
FOR THE STATE PROGRAM THAT THE
ELLIOTT TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT
EXTRA TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM
THE DEPARTMENT SOCIAL SERVICES.
THE ONLY WAY YOU GET THAT MONEY
FROM DEPARTMENT SOCIAL SERVICES
IS IF THERE IS A FEDERAL
DISASTER AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT
WE'RE LOOKING AT. NOW BUT BUT
ANYONE NEEDS TO GO WITH THE
OTHER AND THEN SO THAT YOU COULD
SEE IT GIVE THEM A MAXIMUM. OF
ABOUT FIFTY SOMETHING THOUSAND
DOLLARS THAT THEY COULD HAVE TO
BEGIN THAT PROCESS. OF OF
STARTING TO REBUILD.
.
IN ADDITION.
INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE INCLUDED
THINGS LIKE CRISIS COUNSELING
AND FUNERAL SERVICES AND.
THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF OF OF
OF THINGS THAT THESE PROGRAMS
PROVIDE IT LET ME JUST GIVE YOU
SOME NUMBERS IN CONTEXT IN
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. OF CLOSE TO
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND PEOPLE
REGISTERED FOR FEMALE ASSISTANCE
PROGRAMS THERE'S THE NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA FIRES.
TO DATE OF FEMA HAS DISPERSED
ROUGHLY. SIXTEEN MILLION DOLLARS
IN INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE
PROGRAMS THAT'S PERSONAL LOSS
AND AND BEING ABLE TO HELP UP
INDIVIDUALS RECOVER. PART OF
THAT IS HOUSING WHICH I'LL TALK
ABOUT IN A MINUTE BUT. HOUSING
COMES IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS
OF THE FIRST IS WHAT THEY CALL
TSA TRANSITIONAL.
SHELTERING ASSISTANCE AND THAT
IS GETTING PEOPLE. OUT OF A RED
CROSS SHELTER AND INTO LIKE A
HOTEL SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE
BIT MORE FOR. THE SECOND PIECE
THAT IS GETTINGTHEM INTO
INTERIM HOUSING THAT'S EITHER
GOING TO BE A DIRECT LEASE WE
FIND AVAILABLE HOUSING.
THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE AND AND
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STEPS IN
AND DOES AA LEASE AGREEMENT A
RENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE HOME
OWNER OR THE OWNER OF THAT
FACILITY AND WE GET THE
SURVIVOR.
PUT INTO THAT FACILITY IT'S UP
TO UP TO EIGHTEEN MONTHS AND
THEN CAN BE RE EVALUATED. THE
OTHER BROTHER WAY WE WILL BE DO
IT IS THEY'LL PUT EITHER A
TRAVEL TRAILER OR A FIFTH WHEEL.
OR THE PUT A MOBILE HOME UNIT
ON THE GROUND AND WE LOOK AT THE
VARIETY OF THESE CINEMA COUNTY
FAIRGROUNDS A REDWOOD EMPIRE
FAIRGROUNDS IN AND IN THE
MENDOCINO SOON TO BE MOVING OVER
TO. CHI AND CAMPGROUND. WHERE
WE'VE HAD FIFTH WHEELS?
IN IF WE COULD PUT A WEEK AGO
PUT A TRAVEL TRAILER ON
SOMEONE'S PROPERTY IF THEY HAVE
IT WHILE THE REBUILDING.
WE'LL DO THAT SO WHAT ERE VERY
FLEXIBLE TO TRY TO MAKE UP MAKE
IT WORK OUT AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE
HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS YOU HAVE
ACCESS TO FUNCTIONAL NEEDS. ARE
YOU YOU YOU MAY HAVE PEOPLE WHO
DON'T WANT TO TRAVEL TRAILER
THEY'LL SAY I'M NOT GOING TO GO
ON THE TRAVEL CHANNEL OR FIND
SOMETHING ELSE SO WE'RE GOING TO
WORK WHEN WE WORK WITH.
THESE INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO.
GET THEIR ASSISTANCE IN HOUSING.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE IN THE
HOUSING PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN YOU
GET A PLACE LIKE SELMA COUNTY
WHERE YOU HAVE LESS THAN A ONE
AND A HALF PERCENT VACANCY RATE
PRIOR TO THE FIRE. HOUSING
CALIFORNIA IS ALREADY A
CHALLENGE AND WHEN YOU LOSE ALL
THAT WHERE DO YOU PUT THESE
FOLKS RIGHT SO WE'LL LIKE FOR
EXAMPLE ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS
WE MADE ALL THOSE RESPONDENTS
THAT WERE COMING IN. NONE OF
THEM COULD STAY IN CINEMA COUNTY
THEY HAVE TO STAY OUTSIDE
BECAUSE WE NEEDED USE HOTELS AND
OTHER KINDS OF. OF OF FOUR FOR
SURVIVORS SAME THING WITH OUR
DEBRIS CLEARANCE OPERATIONS
EVENTUALLY THAT COULD CHANGE IN
THE END AND WE WOULD PUT MORE
MONEY BACK INTO THE ECONOMY BY
PRETTY PEOPLE IN THEIR HOTELS. I
COULD ASK YOU JUST TO WRAP IT UP
IN THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES OR SO
AND I'M GONNA LOSE COMMITTEE
MEMBER SORT OF.
.
SO ANYWAY LET ME JUST SAY FOR
SOME SIXTY MILLION ON
ASSISTANCE.
AND THEN SBA PROVIDED CLOSE TO A
HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION ALL IN
SBS'S THIS LOANS TO INDIVIDUALS
AND.
HOMEOWNERS. AND BUSINESSES IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ROUGHLY
THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED
PEOPLE REGISTERED FOR FEMALE
ASSISTANCE CLOSE TO FOUR MILLION
DOLLARS IN INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE
DISBURSEMENTS. AT ABOUT THIRTY
MILLION DOLLARS AN SB A.
ASSISTANCE. SO.
.
WE CLOSE IN ON ME JUST SAY THAT.
.
ARE.
THIS WHOLE EVENT.
REALLY HAS REQUIRED. CALIFORNIA
TO REALLY LEVERAGE.
HOW WE DO BUSINESS THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET INCLUDED DOUBT
ABOUT TWO HUNDRED TWENTY EIGHT
MILLION DOLLARS IN IN THIS
FISCAL YEAR TO SUPPORT?
YESES OF FIRE OPERATIONS
PARTICULARLY IN THE ORTH THE
DEBRIS OPERATIONAL LOAN IN
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA'S ABOUT ONE
POINT THREE BILLION DOLLARS.
THE THE PRE OPERATION IN THE
SOUTH IS ROUGHLY BETWEEN A
HUNDRED FIFTY AND TWO HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLARS OF THE OVERALL
LOSSES ARE IN IN THE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD INSURANCE LOSS
BETWEEN EIGHT AND TEN BILLION.
AND WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH A
CONGRATULATORY CONGRESSIONAL
DELEGATION AND THE FIRST TIME
SINCE NINETEEN NINETY THREE WERE
ABLE TO GET EVERY MEMBER OF THE
CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION TO SIGN
ON TO A LETTER. TO SUPPORT A
SPECIAL PROCREATION SUPPLEMENTAL
APPROPRIATION OF THAT RECENT WAS
PASSED IN CONGRESS.
THAT APPROPRIATED FOUR POINT
FOUR BILLION DOLLARS TO COME
BACK TO CALIFORNIA SO THAT WE
CAN UTILIZE THAT IN OUR PROGRAMS
AND OF OF IMPORTANCE OF THAT
WHICH YOU NEGOTIATED HARD ON WAS
TO GET A NINETY TEN COST YEAR IN
DEBRIS OPERATIONS WHICH MEANS
THAT IS THAT A SEVENTY FIVE.
TWENTY FIVE THE FEDS WOULD PICK
UP NINETY PERCENT OF THE DEBRIS
OPERATIONS COSTS WHICH IS REALLY
HUGE WHEN YOU LOOK AT NUMBERS.
LIKE ONE POINT THREE ONE POINT
FIVE MILLION. LASTLY IN THE IN
THE MID YEAR A BUDGET.
THERE IS A TWENTY FIVE MILLION
DOLLAR.
UP IDENTIFIED AMOUNT TO.
YES.
FOR PROCURING ADDITIONAL FIRE
ENGINES THAT GO TO THE.
YES FIRE ENGINE FLEET.
HUNDRED TEN ENGINES. THAT WOULD
STRENGTHEN THE MEAT MUTUAL AID
SYSTEM OUGHT TO ADDRESS SOME OF
THE GAPS THAT DID EXIST IN THE
SYSTEM.%
AND PREPARE AND PRE POSITIONED
GIVE US A BETTER WAY OUGHT TO BE
ABLE TO.
MOVE IN THE FUTURE SO I THINK
I'LL STOP THERE AND AN APPETIZER
QUESTION WHEN YOU'REREADY.
THANK YOU JUST CLARIFY FOR
MEMBERS OF THAT MID YEAR JUST
WAS NOT INCLUDED IN ANY OF THE
ACTIONS WE TOOK TODAY WE'RE
GONNA GO AHEAD HERE FROM
DIRECTOR PIMLOTT AND THEN WE'LL
OPEN UP QUESTIONS FOR BOTH OF
DIRECTORS ONCE THEY'RE DONE
OKAY.
BRIQUEMONT THANK YOU GOOD
MORNING THANK YOU AT YOUR
MITCHELL MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE.
YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT A FIRE
SEASON TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN
ALREADY AND.
IT CERTAINLY WAS PROBABLY THE
MOST CHALLENGING FIRE SEASON FOR
FOR CALIFORNIA. UP BUT IT MAY BE
BACKING UP FOR SECOND TALKING
ABOUT THE THAT WRE THE
STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
AS AS WAS INDICATED BY THE THE
OHIO.
L. FORMULA AND BY STATUTE CAL
FIGHTERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
WILDLAND FIRE PROTECTION ON
THIRTY ONE MILLION ACRES. OF
WILD LANDS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA
PREDOMINATELY PRIVATE LAND. HELL
FIRES THE BILLION DOLLARS IN
CALIFORNIA'S BUDGET YEAR MARK
FOR FIRE PROTECTION GOES
DIRECTLY TO THOSE FIREFIGHTERS
FIRE ENGINES BULLDOZERS
AIRCRAFT.
AND PERSONNEL SPREAD FROM THE
OREGON BORDER TO THE MEXICAN
BORDER.
TO ADDRESS THE PROTECTION OF
THOSE WILD LANDS. THE GOAL OF
THE STATE IS NINETY FIVE PERCENT
OF THE FIRES THAT OCCUR TO BE
CONTAINED AT TEN ACRES OR LESS.
WILDLAND FIRES ARE THE ONE
EMERGENCY THAT HAPPENS EVERY DAY
IN CALIFORNIA.
IT DID NOT EVERYONE OF THEM
BECOME A DISASTER AND THAT'S
BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEM THAT
CALIFORNIA HAS IN PLACE WE ARE
SUCCESSFUL IN CONTAINING NINETY
FIVE PERCENT IN THAT TEN ACRES
OR LESS. BECAUSE OF THIS
AGGRESSIVE INITIAL ATTACK. AND
SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE IT
CERTAINLY INVOLVES THE
CALIFORNIA RESOURCES BUT ALL OF
THAT THOUSAND PLUS LOCAL
GOVERNMENT RESOURCES. THAT
DIRECTOR MUELLER DG A INDICATED
IT'S THE CLOSEST RESOURCES TO
EVERY FIRE THAT BREAKS OUT
THROUGHOUT THE STATES ARE VERY
INTEGRATED. COORDINATED RESPONSE
THAT ALSO INCLUDES OUR FEDERAL
PARTNERS BECAUSE LANDOWNERSHIP
ACROSS CALIFORNIA IS NOT EVENLY
DIVIDED IT'S VERY INTERMIXED AND
AGAIN IT TAKES FEDERAL STATE AND
LOCAL RESPONSE TO ALL OF THESE.
ARE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT.
SUCCESSFUL.
AND THE REASON THAT TO AGAIN
COST ESTIMATES RIGHT NOW FOR TWO
THOUSAND SEVENTEEN FIRE SEASON
ARE JUST THAT. ESTIMATES NOT
ONLY BECAUSE WE'RE STILL
ADJUDICATING COSTS FROM THE
DECEMBER FIRE SEAT BUT FIRES
CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. LITERALLY
JUST LAST WEEK THE PLEASANT FIRE
IN THE OWENS VALLEY NEAR BISHOP
BURNED OVER TWO THOUSAND ACRES.
THREATENED HUNDREDS OF
STRUCTURES IN AROUND BISHOP IN.
IN THOSE AREAS THAT WE CONTINUE.
TO BE IN A FIRE FIGHT IN
CALIFORNIA. EVERY DAY THROUGHOUT
THE YEAR AND DESPITE YOUR WINTER
STORMS AND FIVE FEET OF SNOW
POTENTIAL OVER THE DONNER PASS I
GUARANTEE YOU THERE ARE PLACES
IN CALIFORNIA. TODAY. BETTER
STILL SITTING IN CONDITIONS THAT
ARE RIPE FOR FIRE AND SO THAT'S
WHY WERE ALL THE THINGS WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. ARE
CRITICAL BECAUSE IT IS WHERE
WE'RE AT IN CALIFORNIA YOU KNOW
WE HAD FROM TWO THOUSAND TWELVE
TO FIFTEEN THE DRIEST YEAR IN
OVER TWELVE HUNDRED YEARS.
ONE WAY HERE IN TWO THOUSAND
SIXTEEN.
REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE THE FLAVOR
OF THE CONDITIONS IN THE IN THE
VEGETATION OUT THERE WHAT IT
REALLY DID WAS GAVE US THAT
KILLING THAT GRASS CROP.
THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHICH
BECAME WHERE FIE STARTED LAST
YEAR LITERALLY IN TWO THOUSAND
SEVENTEEN HOW WE HAD OVER NINE
THOUSAND FIRES ACROSS ALL
JURISDICTIONS WILDLAND FIRES
ALONE. FOR OVER ONE POINT TWO
MILLION ACRES THAT WAS WELL
AHEAD OF THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE
AND CERTAINLY WELL AHEAD OF THE
OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND IS
CONTINUING TO PUT MORE AND MORE
AGAIN STRESS ON ALL OF THE
SYSTEMS AROUND THE STATE TO MEET
THAT NINETY FIVE PERCENT GOAL OF
TEN ACRES OR LESS OUT. THAT'S
DRIVING CERTAINLY OUR COST TO
THE EMERGENCY FUND BECAUSE ALL
THESE RESOURCES ARE REQUIRED.
FOR EXAMPLE JUST BETWEEN OCTOBER
AND DECEMBER FIRE SIEGES
COMBINED IT WAS OVER THREE HYPER
OVER THREE THOUSAND FIRE ENGINES
WERE IN PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF
THOSE TWO. FIRE SIEGES SIX
HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN HAND CREWS
THREE HUNDRED THIRTY NINE
BULLDOZERS. UP BETWEEN THE TWO
FIRES FURTHER TO FIRE SIEGES
CALIFORNIA HAD ACCESS TO
VIRTUALLY EVERY. FIREFIGHTING
AIRCRAFT AVAILABLE. IN THE
COUNTRY.
IN OCTOBER THAT WAS OVER A
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN
HELICOPTERS. AND FIXED WING AIR
TANKERS COMBINED WITH DECEMBER
THAT WAS OVER TWO UNDER TWO
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY NINE. THOSE
HELICOPTERS FLEW TWO THOUSAND
TWO HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN FLIGHT
HOURS JUST BETWEEN THOSE TWO
SIEGES AND THEY DELIVERED OVER
ELEVEN MILLION GALLONS OF WATER.
OUR AIR TANKERS NOT JUST
CALIFORNIA DEAR TANKERS THAT
WERE BROUGHT FROM ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY INTO THE ST FLEW. OVER
NINETEEN HUNDRED HOURS AND
DELIVERED FOUR POINT SEVEN
MILLION GALLONS OF RETARDANT
AGAIN JUST ON THOSE TWO SIEGES
THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE WHAT GOES
ON EVERY DAY. IN CALIFORNIA TO
KEEP THESE OTHER FIRES SMALL.
I GET FOR CAL FIVE OR SOME OF
THE COST PRESSURES ARE NOT
RELATED TO THE DIRECT WILDLAND
FIREFIGHTING RESPONSE BECAUSE
CALIFORNIA. WAS VERY SMART YEARS
AND YEARS AGOTHIS LEGISLATURE
IN THE ADMINISTRATION. DEVELOPED
AN EMERGENCY FUND TO ENSURE THAT
FIREFIGHTING AGENCIES FOR
WILDLAND FIRES. ALL THE TOOLS
THEY NEED DURING THE FIREFIGHT
WE CAN'T HAVE. ENGINE COMPANY
OFFICERS INCIDENT COMMANDERS
WAITING FOR APPROVAL TO HAVE
SOMETHING FUNDED WHEN THE FIRES
BURNING WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO
ORDER RESOURCES. TO FUND WE
STEWARD VERY CAREFULLY BUT. OUR
INCIDENT COMMANDERS HAVE THE
ABILITY TO ORDER THE RESOURCES
THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED IT TO
MITIGATE THE EMERGENCY SOMETHING
WORKING VERY HARD FOR THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO
ACQUIRE. BECAUSE IT'S KEY BUT
ALL OF THESE THINGS OBVIOUSLY
WORK COST DRIVERS.
CAUSE CHALLENGES FOR CALIFORNIA
CERTAINLY THE SAME THINGS THAT
DIRECTOR MUELLER DUTY I
INDICATED IT WAS THE SAME FOR
ALL OF THE OTHER. STATE AGENCIES
WERE WORKING OUTSIDE OF OUR
DIRECTLY FUNDED MISSION IN
SUPPORT OF THIS DISASTER
RESPONSE THE EMERGENCY
WATERSHED.
ASSESSMENT TEAMS THE. SUPPORTING
AND HELPING WITH DEBRIS REMOVAL
AND RECOVERY EFFORTS ALL OF
THOSE ARE DONE UNDER MISSION
TASKS IN OBVIOUSLY CERTAINLY
DONE OUT OF OUR BASE BUDGETS
WHILE WE'RE PENDING. IN OF
SUPPORT FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
ROUTE REIMBURSEMENTS DOWN THE
ROAD. ABOUT LESSONS LEARNED IN
TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN FOR US.
JUST WHAT DIRECTOR GALLUCCI
INDICATED WHAT'S WORKED VERY
WELL. FOR CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN
THIS INTEGRATED PUBLIC SAFETY
APPROACH BETWEEN THE FOUR HE
FIGURES IN PUBLIC SAFETY WERE
JOINED AT THE HIP AND HAVE BEEN
WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION CAL FIRE IS
ENTERED INTO A. MEMORANDUM OF
UNDERSTANDING VERY SIMILAR TO
WHAT WE AS DID WE LOOK AT ALL OF
OUR PROGRAMS ENGAGING IN THE
VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE
REGULATORY RESPONSIBILITIES. OF
THE COMMISSION AND WHERE WE CAN
SUPPORT THE TECHNICAL ELEMENTS
OF THEIR WORK. AND ALSO
REITERATING AGAIN THE THE THE
SITUATION AWARENESS THAT THE
TECHNOLOGY WE NEED TO LOOK FOR
TO ENGAGE MORE AND LOOKING AT
THE REAL TIME SITUATIONAL
AWARENESS TOOLS WHETHER ITS
SATELLITE IMAGERY.
LAND BASED TECHNOLOGY OR FIXED
WING EITHER PILOTED OR A
REMOTELY PILOTED AIRCRAFT. TO
PROVIDE REAL TIME SITUATIONAL
AWARENESS TO OUR OF FIREFIGHTERS
ON THE GROUND AS WELL AS
RESOURCE TRACKING OF TOOLS SO
THAT WE CAN ALL HAVE ONE COMMON
OPERATING PICTURE. SEAMLESS
ACROSS IN PARTICULAR OUR STATE
AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT. RESOURCES.
BUT THE RESPONSE PIECE OF THIS
ALONE IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE
PROBLEM AND I THINK THAT REALLY
GETS TO THE HEART. OF SOME OF
THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP
ALREADY AND CERTAINLY WITH.
CENTER WHICH HOUSES QUESTION. WE
HAVE GOT TO CONTINUE FOCUSING ON
THE FRONT END. OF THIS PROBLEM
AS WELL THAT PREVENTION.
AREAS THAT THE FUELS TREATMENT
OF THE FOREST MANAGEMENT ALL THE
THINGS TO TRY TO REDUCE.
THE IMPACT OF FIRE THESE
DEVASTATING FIRES ON THE GROUND
OR WE WILL NEVER BREAK. THE
CYCLE THAT WE ARE IN. OUR WHAT
WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF
ASPECTS OF WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP
IS THE S. R. A FIRE PREVENTION.
FUND.
THAT FUND WENT INTO PLACE IN TWO
THOUSAND ELEVEN.
.
BY THE TIME THAT IT TO HEAD
TRANSITIONS TO NOW THE BEING
FUNDED THROUGH THE GHG YEAR CAP
AND TRADE FUNDS. OVER TWO
HUNDRED NINETY THREE LOCAL FIRE
PREVENTION AND HEALTHY FOREST
GRANTS. WERE AWARDED. FOR OVER
SIXTY FIVE. MILLION DOLLARS THAT
WAS MONEY GOING DIRECTLY ON THE
GROUND. FOR FIRE PREVENTION AND
FUELS TREATMENT FOREST
MANAGEMENT WORK AS THIS IS
TRANSITIONED AND NOW UNDER THE
CURRENT BUDGET YEAR WITH TWO
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
EARMARKED IN FIRE PREVENTION AND
FOREST HEALTH WE ARE CURRENTLY
RECEIVING CONCEPT PROPOSALS. AS
WE SPEAK FROM FIRE SAFE COUNCILS
FIRE DISTRICTS. IN LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AND MANY OTHERS
ACROSS THE STATE. THE BEST
APPROPRIATE AS MUCH OF THAT TWO
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OUT
WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE
PROJECTS THAT'LL BE HELPING.
ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS FIRE SAFE
COUNCILS OF PUTTING FUEL BREAKS.
EDUCATION PROGRAMS. IT WILL WORK
ON LARGER PROJECTS TO ENSURE
THAT WE ARE. LEVERAGING THAT
MONEY AGAINST FEDERAL LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AND OTHER FUNDING
SOURCES TO GET THE BIGGEST BANG
FOR THE BUCK ON THE GROUND AND
ACTUALLY GET REAL WORK. REAL
MEANINGFUL WORK THAT WILL MAKE A
DIFFERENCE IN REDUCING.
FIRE INTENSITY AT WILL THIN AND
MANAGE OUR FORCE SO THAT THEY'RE
MORE HEALTHY NOT ONLY TO RESIST
THESE STAND REPLACING HIGH
INTENSITY. WILDLAND FIRES LIKE
THE RIM FIRE IN TWO THOUSAND AND
THIRTEEN AND IN THE SUBSEQUENT
FIRES WE'VE SEEN BUT ALSO MAKE
THEM MORE HEALTHY SO THEY WILL
RESIST THESE EPIDEMIC LEVELS OF.
INSECT OUTBREAKS THAT WE DON'T
HAVE A HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE
MILLION TREES. SIR COME FROM
BARK BEETLE ACTIVITY.
BUT TO MAKE ALL THIS WORK WE
HAVE TO INCREASE OUR PACE AND
SCALE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE
DOING ACROSS THE BOARD. AND
YOU'LL HEAR FROM MANY EXPERTS
LATER TODAY BUT THAT CERTAINLY
INCLUSIVE OF MORE PRESCRIBED
FIRE.
ON THE GROUND IT'S WORKING IN
WOOD PROCESSING INFRASTRUCTURE
INVESTMENT TO ENSURE THAT IS
LANDOWNERS ARE WORKING IN THE
WOODS THAT. THEY HAVE A WAY TO
COVER THE COSTS OF DOING THIS
WORK TO GET THAT MATERIAL OUT OF
THE WOODS IN THE BEST HIGHEST
USE OF ALL THAT WHETHER IT'S BIO
MASS. TO GENERATE ELECTRICITY
WHETHER IT'S ACTUAL SAW LOGS AND
WOOD PRODUCTS THAT WE ARE AT OUR
LUMBER MILLS OR THE MANY OTHER
PRODUCTS AND ACTUALLY
RESEARCHING NEW TECHNOLOGIES
CROSS LAMINATED TIMBER. OTHER
THINGS ARE GOING ON AROUND THE
COUNTRY AGAIN ALL TO PROVIDE
INCENTIVES TO ENSURE WE'RE
GETTING THE WORK DONE. ON THE
GROUND TO INCREASE OUR FOREST
HEALTH AND AT AND REDUCE THE
RISK. ACROSS THE ACROSS THE
BOARD.
LAND USE PLANNING ALSO KEY WHEN
WE TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'VE BEEN
INVESTING FIRE PREVENTION FUNDS
OVER THE YEARS. IT'S IN LAND USE
PLANNING AND REVIEWING EVERY
PUBLIC SAFETY OR ELEMENT OF
COUNTY GENERAL PLANS WORKING
VERY CLOSELY WITH THE HAZARD
MITIGATION PLANS AT THE
COUNTIES.
TO ENSURE AS NEW DEVELOPMENTS GO
INTO PLACE THAT THEY'RE BUILT TO
THE CURRENT WILDLAND URBAN OR
FACE BUILDING STANDARDS THAT ARE
IN PLACE. IN CALIFORNIA THAT THE
STATE PASSED SEVERAL YEARS AGO
ADOPTED ITS ENSURING THAT
DEFENSIBLE SPACE INSPECTIONS ARE
OCCURRING. ACROSS THE STATE OUR
GOAL IS TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY
THOUSAND DEFENSIBLE SPACE
INSPECTIONS ACROSS STATE
RESPONSIBILITY AREA. EVERY YEAR
LAST YEAR BELIEVE WE APPROACHED
TWO HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND
OF THOSE COMPLETED SO OUR GOAL
IS TO CONTINUE TO AGGRESSIVELY
WORK WITH LANDOWNERS. TO ENSURE
THEY'VE DONE THEIR PART TO GET
THEIR CLEARANCE AROUND THEIR
STRUCTURES. AND GET THAT DONE
AND THEN LASTLY THE GOVERNOR'S
INVESTMENT. IN FOREST MANAGEMENT
DURING HIS STATE OF THE STATE AS
YOU RECALL INDICATED THE
DEVELOPMENT. OF A FOREST
MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE THAT WE'RE
CURRENTLY WORKING. WITH
STAKEHOLDERS WORKING WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION TO DETERMINE WHAT
THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BUT THE KEY
HERE. IS WE'RE NOT REINVENTING
ANY WHEELS WE KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO
GET DONE ON THE GROUND IT IS A
MATTER OF LEVERAGING ALL BUT FOR
YOUR DATA COLLECTION
THE HOURS YOU HAVE SPENT.
COLLECTING THAT DATA AND
TESTIFY THAT ALL THE HEARINGS
THAT WE'VE HAD ON ON IN THE PAST
SEVERAL WEEKS ON. BUT IT'S IT'S
SO POWERFUL JUST TO REALLY TRY
TO GRASP THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS
DISASTER SO TO HEAR YOUR
EXAMPLES OF OF TWO GOLDEN GREAT
GIG BRIDGES JUST REALLY. HELPS
YOU REALLY INTERNALIZE THE
MAGNITUDE OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING
WITH SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO
FATHOM EVEN THING THE IMAGES
LIVE YOURSELF ON THE NEWS. BUT
THANK YOU AGAIN.
FOR THE TIME YOU'VE TAKEN TO
EDUCATE AND INFORM THE
LEGISLATIVE SO WE ARE BETTER
EQUIPPED. TO MAKE THE DECISIONS
WE NEED TO ON BEHALF OF ALL
CALIFORNIA OF COLLEGE IF YOU
HAVE QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO
START WITH A VICE CHAIR THROUGH
TO NELSON AND THEN WE'LL GO TO
WHITE HOUSE GEEK AND MORE LOCK
AND REQUIRE AND SKINNER. DR
PAMELA ANDERSON THE CAP AND
TRADE MONEY HAS BEEN USED AS A
NOT.
CAP AND TRADE MONEY YES AT AND.
THAT WE DO HAVE A AN ACCOUNTING
OF THAT YET WHAT YOU SPEND IT ON
OF WILL WE GET ONE. IT
ABSOLUTELY THAT DID THE LAST TO
DO TO AN ORIGINAL APPROPRIATIONS
OF CAP AND TRADE FUNDING FOR
FOREST HEALTH. WENT OUT IN TERMS
OF WITH LAST YEAR WE FUNDED
ABOUT TWENTY ONE MILLION DOLLARS
ACROSS APPROXIMATELY FIVE
PROJECTS. FOR IT DIRECTLY
ENGAGING IN FOREST HEALTH
RELATED ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE
A PROJECT IN THE SOUTHERN
SIERRA.
CENTERED AROUND THREE MORTALITY
PROJECT A IN THE NORTHERN
SIERRA.
WORKING WITH US HERE IN ABOUT A
CONSERVANCY IN THEIR WATERSHED
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. ARE ALSO
WORKING WITH THE THE NATURE
CONSERVANCY ARE ON THE COAST THE
TEN MILE PROJECT TO HELP WITH
SOME CONSERVATION EASEMENTS TO.
FURTHER SUPPORT OF US SOME ODD
RESTORATION AND FOR STEALTH AND
ALSO WORKING WITH THE PACIFIC
FOR STRESSED. ON SAM ACTUALLY
PRESCRIBED FIRED FOR STEALTH
PROJECT. IN THE MANCHESTER CITY
THAT'LL BE AN IMPORTANT TO THAT
ISSUE THANK.
SO DO I CASKET.
I THANK YOU FOR THE ROOT OF.
THE HAND OUT.
YOU REPORT THAT IN THE NINETEEN
EIGHTIES WERE SPENDING ABOUT
TWENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
YEARLY ON SUPPRESSION AND THIS
LAST YEAR WE THINK THAT IT'S
GOING TO BE ALMOST NINE HUNDRED
MILLION ON SUPPRESSION. SO WHEN
WE WHEN WE GET INTO THE
BALANCING ACT BETWEEN.
PREVENTION AND SUPPRESSION AND
THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT
WE'RE GOING WE'RE GOING TO PUT
IT IN AND YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT
BOTH OF YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE
CLIMATE ACTION TEAM WHICH IS
WORK IN IT AND. AND I CAN'T DO
MORE TO HIGHLIGHT THE ADAPTATION
MODEL THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING
THROUGH AND THE RESILIENCY MALLS
AND THE NEED TO TO NOT MAKE THE
SAME MISTAKES. TODAY IN
BLOOMBERG'S REPORT THERE WAS AN
ARTICLE ABOUT THE HANLEY FIRE
WHICH WAS IN NINETEEN SIXTY FOUR
WHICH DISTURBED DESTROYED ABOUT
A HUNDRED HOMES.
AND THEN THE TUBS FIRE THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DESTROYED
FIVE THOUSAND HOMES. BASICALLY I
HAVEN'T DONE THE INDEPENDENT
RESEARCH BUT THEY'RE BASICALLY
ASSERTING ITS IN THE SAME AREA
AND THE LAND USE DECISIONS THAT
WE MADE THAT PEOPLE ARE BUILDING
HOMES. AND BUILDINGS
INFRASTRUCTURES OUT IN THE WILD
LANDS CAN YOU ADDRESS THIS
CONCERN FOR POLICY MAKERS UP
HERE.
ABSOLUTELY AND AND YOU DRIVE AT
THE CORE QUESTION BECAUSE WHAT
WHAT IS OCCURRING IN THE DECADES
IN CALIFORNIA AS WE HAVE
DEVELOPED. INTO URBAN INTERFACE
AREAS.
THAT YOU WANT A BIG DIFFERENCE
IN ADDITION TO SEEING THE BAD
CLIMATE CONDITIONS CHANGE ITS
PEOPLE NOW OCCUPY MANY OF THESE
AREAS. THAT THEY DID NOT PRIOR.
SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE THOUGH
THE TWO LARGE DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN THE HANLEY FIRE IN
NINETEEN SIXTY FOUR. AND THE
TUBS FIRE THIS YEAR AND
LITERALLY DID OCCUPY A VERY
SIMILAR FOOTPRINT.
THE HANLEY FIRE TOOK ABOUT
THREE TO FOUR DAYS TO BURN FROM
ITS POINT OF ORIGIN. TO REACH
THE CITY LIMITS OF SANTA ROSA.
THE TUBS FIRE TOOK FOUR HOURS
FOUR HOURS IT TOOK TO BURNING
ROUGHLY SIMILAR POINT OF ORIGIN.
THE KINDS OF CONDITIONS THE
WEATHER CONDITIONS WE WERE
SEEING THIS MOUNTAIN WAVE OF AIR
AS IT LINED UP IN NORTHERN NORTH
WINDS ARE NOT ABNORMAL. FOR
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA PEOPLE THINK
OF SANTA ANA WINDS IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA. BUT REALLY NORTH
WINDS ARE THE NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA'S VERSION OF THAT
THEY DATE TO HAVE OCCURRED
HISTORICALLY. BUT NEVER TO THIS
RECORDED LEVEL WE HAD WINDS IN
EXCESS OF EIGHTY MILES AN HOUR
RECORDED.
IN SOME OF THE WEATHER STATIONS
ON THE COAST SUSTAINED WINDS OF
FIFTY SIXTY MILES AN HOUR WHEN
THOSE WINDS ALIGNED WITH THAT
MARQUIS. SPRINGS AREA IT HIT THE
CITY OF SANTA ROSA LIKE A
BLOWTORCH AND ABSOLUTELY. NOW IN
TWO THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN OUT
THERE. COMPARED TO NINETEEN
SIXTY FOUR THERE WEREN'T COPY
PART WASN'T THERE. TO THAT LEVEL
BOB BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THIS
FIRE MOVED. WELL OVER TWO MILES
INTO AN URBAN AREA THIS ISN'T
EVEN THE WILDLAND URBAN
INTERFACE. THIS FIRE CROSSED
MULTIPLE LANES SIX YES SIX LANES
OF HIGHWAY ONE A ONE BURNED A
KMART INSTANTLY AND IN BED WE
KNOW WE BEAT THREAD BURNED A
HOTEL THREATENED HOSPITALS. WELL
INSIDE AN URBAN ORGANIZED THIS
CITY SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS A
VERY DIFFERENT AS I INDICATED WE
ARE
CONTINUING TO WORK. WITH OUR
LOCAL OFFICIALS TO WORK TOWARDS
ENSURING THERE ARE MEDICATIONS
IN PLACE AS WE BUILD. NEW
COMMUNITIES AT THE HARDENED AND
MORE RESILIENT IT'S IT'S JUST A
BIT MORE DIFFICULT DISCUSSION
TALKING ABOUT ADAPTATION AND
RESILIENCY BECAUSE. IT'S WHAT
PEOPLE WANT US HERE IS WE COULD
REBUILD EVERYTHING IF YOU GOT
HERE I HEAR MORE PEOPLE TALKING
ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA REBUILD
INSTEAD OF SAYING WE NEED TO
PAUSE AND THINK ABOUT WHETHER
THIS IS. A FREE FOR MOVING INTO
IT OR AN AREA OF CLIMATE
ADAPTATION AND RESILIENCY WELL
LET'S ASK THESE HARD QUESTIONS.
WHEN THE PANELISTS DR.
STEVENS IS GONNA COME UP AND HE
HAS A A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE.
PRESCRIBED.
BURNS IS AND THE THE FLORIDA
MODEL AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO
DISCUSSIONS WITH WITH HIM ARM.
OF THE TH CAL FIRE BUDGET
BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE RESOURCES
HAS A LOT OF BUDGETS WHICH
PORTION OF YOUR BUDGET IS INTO.
THE PREVENTION ON PRESCRIBED
BURNS AND HOW DO YOU CAN YOU
FLESH THAT OUT MORE BECAUSE IT'S
NOT CLEAR MY MIND. ALL OF
CALIFORNIA'S BUDGET TOUCHES
PRESCRIBED FIRE IN OUR FIRE
PREVENTION PROGRAM BECAUSE EVERY
EVERY FIREFIGHTER IS ALSO A FIRE
PREVENTION SPECIALIST. WIND FIRE
ENGINES ART TRAINING AND
RESPONDING TO FIRES.
THEIR FIRST PRIORITY IS TO BE
WORKING IN FIRE PREVENTION FUELS
TEATMENT. THIS LEGISLATURE
MINISTRATION JUST APPROVED YEAR
ROUND STAFFING AND FUNDING FOR
FORTY TO FIRE ENGINES IN
ADDITION TO TEN SO WE NOW HAVE
FIFTY TWO FIRE ENGINES. THAT
THEIR PRIMARY ROLE WHEN THEY'RE
NOT RESPONDING TO THESE YEAR
ROUND FIRES IS TO ENGAGE
DIRECTLY. IN PRESCRIBED FIRE
FUELS TREATMENT DEFENSIBLE SPACE
INSPECTIONS I'VE WE'VE GIVEN A
GOAL I'VE PROVIDED DIRECTION
INTERNALLY TO CAL FIRE TO
INCREASE OUR PACE AND SCALE OF
THE AMOUNT OF ACRES WE TREAT.
EVERY YEAR NOT JUST FROM
BROADCAST BURNING PRESCRIBED
FIRE BUT THE AMOUNT OF
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PROJECTS
THAT WE'RE DOING. AND.
WE ARE LITERALLY RETURNING A
SHIP BACK TOWARDS A MODEL OF
LEADING IN FIRE PREVENTION AND
FUELS TREATMENT.
OBVIOUSLY OVER THE YEARS FOR A
VARIETY OF REASONS EMPHASIS WAS
PLACED IN OTHER AREAS WE ARE
REBUILDING CAPACITY. WITH
PARTNERS AND YOU'LL HEAR FROM
MANY TODAY THAT WILL TALK ABOUT.
WHERE WE'RE ENGAGING THAT IN
CALIFORNIA AS A RESPONSIBILITY
TO BE ENGAGING IN USING OUR
RESOURCES TO DO THAT SO AGAIN?
EVERY RESOURCE IS RESPONSIBLE TO
WHICH OUR HAND CREWS AGAIN WHEN
THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO FIRES
AND SUPPORTING OPERATIONS AND
FLOODING ARE OUT DOING. FUELS
TREATMENT PROJECTS EVERY DAY.
AND AND FOR THE OFFICE OF
EMERGENCY SERVICES I'M I'M.
IT'S ABOUT THE SPECIFIC BUDGET
REQUEST THIS REQUEST THAT YOU
MAY HAVE FOR PREVENTION BECAUSE
I REALIZE YOUR CHARGES YOUR
PRESENTATION. REMINDS ME OF THAT
WHOLE OLD HILL STREET BLUES
SERIES WHERE YOU HAD ALL THE
GUYS THAT WANT TO PUT ON THE
ARMOR AND THE AND THE AND THE
BRAWN AND GO IN THERE AND THAT'S
SORT OF THE. YOU KNOW EMERGENCY
SERVICES WE'RE GONNA GO IN BUT
YOU HAD THAT THAT GUY HENRY
BLOOMBERG I THINK WAS HIS NAME
WHICH WAS IN A HOSTAGE SITUATION
HE WOULD GO OVER AND TRY TO TALK
THE PERSON OUT. NOT EXACTLY THE.
TYPE TO YOU ONE FOR RECRUITMENT
BUT UNNECESSARY.
INGREDIENT SO I'M WONDERING I
KNOW THAT THAT'S.
LISTEN TO PRESENTATION ON THE
PREVENTION SIDE WHAT THINGS
WHITE MIKE YOUR OFFICE BE DOING
TODAY TO ASSIST IN THESE OTHER
AGENCIES. IT'S A QUICK QUICK
QUICK QUICK QUESTION AND YOU DID
YOURSELF I LOVE THAT SHOW HOW
STRIP.
I REMEMBER WELL.
.
YOU KNOW WE WE HAVE A WE HAVE A
WHOLE LOT DIRECTORATE.
THAT'S FOCUSED ON PREVENTION
AND AND.
PREPAREDNESS.
UP MOST THE FUNDING THAT COMES
THROUGH THAT IS THROUGH HAZARD
MITIGATION FUNDS.
MOST THESE HAVE BEEN PRE EVENT.
THEY'VE CHANGED AT TIMES THEIR
FOOD USUALLY FEDERAL IN NATURE
AS FAR AS THE FUNDING SOURCE.
BUT THEY COME IN AND AND.
IT'S TWO SISTERS TWO WAYS ONE
IS WE GET GRANTS FROM THE FEDS
FOR PROOF FOR A PRE EVENT
DISASTER MITIGATION. BUT AFTER
THESE BIG DISASTERS THAT ARE
FEDERALLY DECLARED DISASTERS.
WE ACTUALLY GET TWENTY PERCENT
OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE
DISASTER BACK IN HAZARD
MITIGATION MONEY SO FOR EXAMPLE.
IN THESE RECENT EVENTS WE'LL BE
SITTING ON TWO THREE HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLARS THEY COULD COME
BACK IN AND BE UTILIZED THE GO
BACK OUT THE LOCAL PROJECTS WERE
STAY PROJECTS. TO REDUCE THE
RISK OF FUTURE DISASTERS OUR
WHOLE PREMISE AROUND THIS OFFICE
IS TO WORK ON ON BUYING DOWN
THAT RISK.
WHETHER IT'S FLOOD FIRE
EARTHQUAKE CALIFORNIA
FORTUNATELY IS A STATE THAT'S.
IT'S GOT LOTS OF RISKS RIGHT AND
SO WERE PRIORITIZING BUT LET'S
JUST SAY THIS IN THE EAST COAST
IN THE SOUTHERN STATES HURRICANE
IS THERE A BIG DEAL. OUT HERE
WILDFIRE IS OUR HURRICANE AND
AND THEY HAVE AN ANNUAL
CONFERENCE AROUND THAT IT'S ALL
ABOUT THAT THEIR LAND USE
PLANNING IS TO THINK ABOUT IT
THE BILL HER KING. APPROVED
BUILDINGS. THEIR EVACUATION
PROCEDURES AROUND THAT THAT'S
SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO
LOOK.
FOR HERE IN CALIFORNIA AS WELL.
AND AND TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE
NEW. THE NEW CHALLENGES WE HAVE
BUT THAT THE KIND OF CLIMATE
SIDE I SAY THAT. WITH THE BACK
DROP THAT THAT THAT THAT KNOCK
ON WOOD BUT THE EARTHQUAKE IS
COMING RIGHT SO WE GOT. SEISMIC
RETROFITS AND SEISMIC ISSUES WE
DEAL WITH HER SO LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS ARE CHALLENGED ABOUT
WHERE DO WE PUT OUR FUNDING
WHERE WE PUT OUR EFFORTS. BUT
LOCAL LAND COMES DOWN THE REALLY
LOCAL LAND USE PLANNING AND AND
JAPAN WAS CORRECT IN THAT IS WE
NEED TO GIVE THEM THE SCIENTIFIC
AND. AND STATISTICAL DATA TO
MAKE SURE THEY KNOW.
ALL WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BUILDER
GIVE PERMITS FOR BUILDING UP
LIKE I I'VE SEEN PERMITS SEVEN
IN IN IN THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS WHERE THEY WANT TO
BUILD THESE HOMES IF YOU IF
YOU'RE GONNA ALLOWTHAT PERMIT
THE HAPPEN AND IT'S A HIGH FIRE
ZONE. BAND BEEN THERE'S GOT TO
BE A CERTAIN KIND OF
RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE
HOMEOWNER IN AND THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE BUILDING IT ARE GOING TO
HAVE TO TAKE ON BECAUSE. WHAT
WE'RE SPENDING ON THE BACKEND OF
DISASTERS IF WE PUT YOU KNOW
QUARTER OF THAT IN THE FRONT AND
IN PREVENTION THE WAY WE DO IT I
THINK WE'D BE MUCH BETTER OUR
COST OF DISASTERS GO DOWN?
THANK YOU.
THE MINIATURE MAYBE I'LL PICK UP
WERE SENATOR WHY KASKI STARTED
WITH PRESCRIBED BURNS. OR
MANAGED OR. FEELS TREATMENT ALL
THE TERMINOLOGY WERE USING.
I SAT ON A RETIREMENT BOARD
WHEN THE LARGEST IN THE NATION
FOR TWELVE YEARS. WE BOUGHT A
LOT OF TIMBERLAND. AND SO I'M
JUST WANNA DOES THE PRIVATE
SECTOR.
HAVE PRESCRIBED BURNS ON THEIR
PROPERTY.
IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION SO THE
STATES BASICALLY DIVIDED UP INTO
THIRDS IS ABOUT A HUNDRED
MILLION ACRES OF LAND IN
CALIFORNIA. ABOUT A THIRD OF
THAT IS IN FEDERAL OWNERSHIP
PRIMARILY. NATIONAL FOREST LAND
NATIONAL PARKS BUREAU OF LAND
MANAGEMENT.
BUT THE OTHER THIRD OF THAT. IS
THE STATE RESPONSIBILITY AREA
THESE WILD LANDS THAT ARE
INCORPORATED CITIES.
THEY HAVE A A WILDLAND
WATERSHED DEFINITION WITHIN THAT
THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
FORCE AND IS ACTUALLY BETWEEN.
THE SIXTY SIX MILLION ACRES THAT
MAKES UP STATE AND FEDERAL.
WATERSHED LANDS ABOUT. HALF OF
THAT OR THIRTY THREE MILLION
ACRES ARE ACTUAL FORESTED LANDS
AND SO WHAT GETS. COMPLEX IS
THAT HALF OF THAT IS IN FEDERAL
AND HALF OF THAT.
FOREST LAND WE GET LOST IN THE
NUMBERS BUT A SIGNIFICANT
COMPONENT OF THE FOREST LAND
CALIFORNIA. IS ACTUALLY IN
PRIVATE OWNERSHIP LARGE
INDUSTRIAL FOREST LANDOWNERS.
MAKE UP ABOUT FIVE OR SIX
MILLION ACRES. SMALL IN NON
INDUSTRIAL FAMILY FOREST
LANDOWNERS MAKE UP ABOUT NINE
MILLION ACRES OF OUR FOREST LAND
SPREAD THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA
ON AVERAGE THEY'RE ABOUT FIFTY
TO A HUNDRED ACRES THEY'RE SMALL
LANDOWNERS AND.
THE COMPOSITE OF ALL THAT MAKES
UP THIS LANDSCAPE SO THAT THE
CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE. IS THAT
WE'RE NOT MANAGING A TWO HUNDRED
THOUSAND ACRE NATIONAL FOREST
LAND WEREN'T WORKING WITH
INDIVIDUAL FIFTY TO ONE HUNDRED
ACRE FOREST LANDOWNERS SUMMER
ABSENTEE THEY MAY LIVE IN THE
CITY BUT THEY HAVE THIS LAND.
SOME ARE HAVE INHERITED THE LAND
THEY DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY A
LONG STEWARDSHIP OF THAT LAND
SOME DO AND SOME INVESTED IN
THAT WHAT COMMON TO ALL OF THIS
IS THAT WE NEED TO ENGAGE THAT
ENTIRE. SET OF FOREST LAND
OWNERS BUT WE DON'T HAVE
STATUTORY AUTHORITY TODIRECT
THEM HOW TO DO THIS WORK BUT WE
DO HAVE. THIS COLLECTIVE WISDOM.
AND A RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP
THEM WITH WHAT THEY NEED TO DO
TO MANAGE THEIR LAND WHAT ARE
THEIR OBJECTIVES AND HOW DO WE
HELP THEM GET THERE. ABOUT THE
SAME TIME AS A COMPOSITE.
APPLY A PRESCRIBED FIRE. APPLY
STANDING UP PROVIDE ENOUGH.
COMING OFF THESE THAT WE WE ARE
A COMPOSITE MATERIAL SO THEY CAN
HELP SO BAD PROVIDE A LOCAL
ECONOMIC BASE. TO SUSTAIN MORE
WORK TO REINVEST UP BUT JUST TO
ALLOW. FIRE TO BURN FROM ONE
LAND TO IS VERY CHALLENGING IN
CALIFORNIA BECAUSE WE HAVE. SO
MANY DIVERSE LANDSCAPES FIRE CAN
QUICKLY CROSSED FROM ONE
LANDOWNER TO THE NEXT. SO
ALLOWING A FIRE TO BURN ON ONE
PROPERTY CAN IMMEDIATELY IMPACT
ANOTHER SO THE FLORIDA MODEL. IS
A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE
CAN APPLY HERE IN CALIFORNIA
INTER BECAUSE OF ALL THE PEOPLE
THE LANDSCAPE THE MAKE UP OF OUR
LANDOWNERS BUT AT THE END OF THE
DAY. WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO
INCREASE THE PACE AND SCALE OF
THE USE OF FIRE ON THESE PRIVATE
LANDS AND THE REST OF THE WORK
THAT WE'RE DOING. IT'S HOW WE
GET THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO
NEE TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT
AND YES IT'S WE'RE WORKING
THROUGH OTHER LIABILITY ISSUES
THAT WE CAN WORK WITH EITHER. IN
WORKING THROUGH THE VEGETATION
MANAGEMENT ARE THE TREATMENT
PROGRAM ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT THAT. MANY MEMBERS OF THE
LEGISLATURE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD
OF FORESTRY WITH CORRESPONDENCE
WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO HAVING THE
BOARD OF FORESTRY REVIEW.
AT THAT DOCUMENT THAT WILL
PROVIDE MORE TOOLS TO HELP SMALL
LANDOWNERS GET WORK DONE ON THE
GROUND INVESTING IN
REFORESTATION SO MUCH OF THE OF
THE FOREST LAND THAT'S BEEN
BURNED OR THE SMALL SUPPORT
FAMILY FORCE LANDERS WHO DON'T
HAVE THE CAPACITY. TO TO WORK ON
THEIR LANDS TO TO REGENERATE THE
FORCE TO DO THE FANNING SO HOW
DO WE PROVIDE THAT EFFORT AND
THAT SUPPORT AND WE'RE WORKING
THROUGH THAT. BY PROVIDING
SEEDLINGS BY PROVIDING TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE BY LEVERAGING OUR
GREENHOUSE GAS FUNDING OUR FORCE
TELLS MONEY AGAINST OTHER WORK
OTHER EFFORTS SO THAT WE CAN GET
COLLECTIVELY MORE OF THIS WORK
DONE.
CHEAP HIM LIE THAT'S A VERY
THOROUGH ANSWER.
LET ME TAKE A LITTLE DEEPER I
COULD BECAUSE.
IF IF MY PENSION SYSTEM WAS
OWNING THIS TIMBERLAND IN. MY
INVESTMENT PROFESSIONALS SAID WE
WOULD NEVER BUY LAND NEXT TO A
NATIONAL OR STATE FOREST BECAUSE
THEY DON'T MANAGE IT WE DON'T
NEED THOSE PROBLEMS CLIMBING
INTO OUR. LAND SO I WOULD THINK
IF IF THIS NINE MILLION ACRES
THAT OUR NIGHT. THE BIG NUMBER.
I WOULD THINK A LOT OF THAT LAND
IS OWNED BY CALPERS.
THROUGH ITS INVESTMENTS IN A IN
A GROUP IN A FUND. THERE MAY BE
A LOT MAYBE YOU KNOW TWENTY OF
OUR.
THIRTY SEVEN ACT PENSION PLANS
OWN A LOT OF THIS.
WHEN WE WOULD BE KIND OF IRONIC
BUT MAYBE WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW
TO WORK EVEN WITH OUR OWN.
ABILITY SINCE WE HAVE WE HAVE
SOME OWNERSHIP I'M JUST CURIOUS.
DO THEY DO THEY HAVE PRESCRIBED
BURNS. TO THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD
IT I MEAN. I I I HAVEN'T HEARD
THAT MENTIONED.
AS AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY THAT
WE WOULD BURN.
BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING
AT SELLING WOOD FOR YOU KNOW
MAKING A PROFIT AND. MAKING SURE
THAT THE THE.
THE COUPLE OF PIECES THEY'RE.
WORKING AND IF FOREST MANAGEMENT
THE COMPLEX. ISSUE NOT BECAUSE
ONE THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE LAND
OWNERSHIP THE NINE MILLION ACRES
I REFERRED TO IS LITERALLY THESE
ARE THE SMALLER. NOT INDUSTRIAL
THESE ARE NOT THE LANDS OWNED BY
BUT THEY CALL THOSE A TIMBER
MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATIONS YES
THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT. OF
INVESTMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY
WERE LARGE EVER CORPORATIONS
INVESTMENT FIRMS PUTTING CALPERS
ARE INVESTING.
URBAN SEQUESTRATION THEY'RE
INVESTING YES FOR REVENUES THAT
CAN COME OFF THAT TIMBERLAND
DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE.
TRADITIONALLY FOREST LANDS THEY
CAN PROVIDE. A RETURN ON
INVESTMENT THROUGH HARVESTING
THOSE TREES.
THE CHALLENGE ACROSS ALL OF
THESE LANDSCAPES IS THEY'RE AT
RISK.
THAT INVESTMENT THAT EVERYONE IS
MADE FOR WHATEVER REASON IN
THESE LANDSCAPES IS ENTIRELY AT
RISK FROM BEING DECIMATED. FROM
THESE.
TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND ACRE
RIM FIRES ALL THESE FIRES THAT
HAVE OCCURRED WILL DESTROY THAT
INVESTMENT IMMEDIATELY PLUS PUT
ALL THIS CARBON. INTO THE AIR.
AND AND AND AGAIN JUST TO
FURTHER EXACERBATE OUR
CHALLENGES WITH GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS SO.
THE CHALLENGER THIS IS ATTACKING
IT FROM MULTIPLE FRONTS
PRESCRIBED FIRE IS THE ONE KEY
TOOL. IN GETTING THIS WORK DONE
THAT SO MANY OF OUR FORESTS ARE
SO OVER STOCKED WITH THE SMALL
NON INDUSTRIAL OR SOME OF THESE
LARGER. LANDSCAPES.
.
LET ME JUST INTERRUPT YOU JUST
YET YOU'RE TOUCHING ON I AND
WHERE I WANT TO GO IN THAT IS
YOU HAVE A CONFLICT.
YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING WE AS A
STATE WE WANT TO REDUCE
GREENHOUSE GASES BUT YOU'RE
USING. A METHOD THAT ACTUALLY
CREATES GREENHOUSE GASES AND I'M
JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO
PRESCRIBED FIRE YEAH THAT'S WHAT
FRIENDS ARE BIGGER AND HOW DO
WE.
HOW DO WE RECONCILE THAT BECAUSE
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BEING
HYPOCRITICAL SO I'M? TRYING TO.
FILTER THAT I DID THAT VERY GOOD
QUESTION IT'S ALL IN THE KIND OF
FIRE AND THAT MAY NOT MAKE SENSE
BUT THAT'S ABSOLUTE THE FIRES ON
THE BURN. IT TOUCHES THE RIMFIRE
THESE FIRES WE'VE SEEN IN THE
LAST RIBS ARE BURNING AT
INTENSITIES THAT ARE. OFF THE
CHARTS AND THE AMOUNT OF
EMISSIONS IN PARTICULAR MATTER
AND CARBON BEING ADMITTED IS
EXPONENTIAL. A PRESCRIBED FIRE.
MUCH LOWER INTENSITY EVEN
MANAGED FIRES THAT OCCUR ON
FEDERAL LANDS WHERE THEY'RE ABLE
TO DO THAT SAFELY. THE
INTENSITIES ARE LOW THEY'RE VERY
PRESCRIPTIVE SO THEY HAPPEN AT
TIMES WHEN INTENSITIES ARE CAN
BE KEPT UNDER CONTROL THE AMOUNT
OF EMISSIONS YES THERE ARE
EMISSIONS. BUT THE GAIN FROM
REDUCING THE FUEL LOADING
PREVENTING THIS LARGE EMISSION
OF VINGT IS SIGNIFICANT AND SO
THAT'S PROBABLY OUR KEY
SOCIALIZATION ISSUE WITH THE USE
OF PRESCRIBED FIRE. IS ENGAGING
THE PUBLIC IN THIS DISCUSSION
THAT SMALL FIRES GENERATING
SMALLER MISSIONS NOW WILL HELP
PREVENT LARGE CATASTROPHIC FIRES
WITH CATASTROPHIC EMISSIONS THAT
THAT HELPS BECAUSE TWO AND A
HALF DAYS OF A WILDFIRE CREATE
AS MUCH GREENHOUSE GAS. AS ALL
THE CARS IN THIS STATE RUNNING
FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR SEPARATELY SO
PREVENTION IS FOR ME IS SO
CRITICAL SITES. ARE JUST A MAD
MODE ARE YOU TAKEN EIGHT YEARS
TO GET THE FIRE MAPS DONE AND
YOU MIGHT NOT EVEN BE DONE I
JUST WANNA KNOW. WHY DOES IT
TAKE CAL FIRE AND WHY TO TAKE
THE CPUC SO LONG TO DO SOMETHING
WHICH SEEMS RELATIVELY SIMPLE
WITH?
A COMPUTER PROGRAM TO START
FIGURING OUT WHAT'S HIGH RISK
WITH LOW RISK WHAT'S POPULATED
WHAT'S NOT I JUST WANT TO KNOW.
IF YOU COULD HELP ME.
SO IT.
MAPPING THE THE VERY HIGH FIRE
HAZARD SEVERITY ZONES AT THE
HYATT HAZARD ZONES UNDER THE
DIRECTION OF THE REGULAR
RESPONSIBILITY THEIR UTILITY
COMMITS.
IT'S A COMPLEX PROCESS AND IT
REQUIRES NOT JUST LOOKING AT A
COMPUTER PROGRAM AND MAKING SOME
ESTIMATES THERE'S A LOT OF DATA.
THE CALIFORNIA AGAIN.
HUNDRED MILLION ACRES IN THIS
STATE AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY AND
ACCURATELY IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE
HAZARD ZONES ARE. INSURING THE
DATA IS ACCURATE. ALSO THE
PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION IS A
PUBLIC PROCESS AND SO. MULTIPLE
VERSIONS OF THAT INFORMATION HAD
TO COME BACK. THROUGH AN INTENSE
PRESIDENT PICKER TALKS ABOUT
THIS OFTEN IT'S.
HAVE TO BECOME OUT FOR PUBLIC
REVIEW AND COMMENT THROUGH THAT
PROCESS AND THEN GOING BACK. TO
THE DRAWING BOARD IF YOU WILL
AND PROBING INTO JUDY CAYTON
THAT PUBLIC INPUT TO BRING THE
NEXT SETS OUT THAT INFORMATION'S
THERE NOW AND IN THE OFFICE OF
THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
IS ACTING ON THAT THROUGH. THE
REGULATORY PROCESS TO ENSURE BUT
I GUARANTEE YOU THROUGH OUR AMMO
YOU THIS IS WHY THIS IS KEY
RECOGNIZING NOW THROUGH AN AMMO
YOU THAT WE CAN STREAMLINE OUR
RELATIONSHIP. WITH THE
COMMISSION SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE
WE CAN PROVIDE THEM THE
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT
THEY'RE ASKING US FOR AS WE GO
FORWARD AND ACTUALLY GOING TO BE
KEY AS WE GO FORWARD. IN THE
KINDS OF CONDITIONS THAT WERE
FACING. OUT TO ENSURE PROTECTION
OF THAT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE
BUT THE SAME TIME ENSURE
PROTECTION OF OBVIOUSLY THE
EVERYBODY AROUND THAT. IN
ADDITION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING
WITH UTILITY COMMISSION OF THE
VERY HIGH FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY
MAPS THAT ARE BEING THAT PROCESS
IS BEGINNING RIGHT NOW SEPARATE
PROCESS. THAT STARTED WAY BACK
DURING THE THE THE OAKLAND HILLS
FIRE WE'RE UPDATING THOSE MAPS
AGAIN NOW AND AGAIN AS I
INDICATED THAT WILL INCLUDE A
WHOLE NEW ELEMENT IN
INCORPORATING. SOME WIND DATA SO
WE WE ARE AGAIN WORKING AND AND
BASED ON WHAT WE'RE LEARNING BE
ABLE TO INCORPORATE.
HOW MUCH MORE INFORMATION INTO
THE NEXT SET OF DATA?
ON.
IT'S IT'S VEGETATION VEGETATION
TOPOGRAPHY. AND NOW WINDED FIRE
AND FIRE MEANT IS NOT IT IS VERY
DYNAMIC AND WE LEARNED A LOT. IT
CERTAINLY LEARNED A LOT IN THE
LAST SEVERAL YEARS ABOUT HOW
THINGS ARE CHANGING HOW WE NOW
CAN INCORPORATE THAT IN SOME
BETTER PREDICTION. WELL EVEN IN
ORANGE COUNTY WE HAVE WILDFIRE
AREAS AND AND THE CITY COUNCILS
ARE GETTING REALLY FRUSTRATED AT
HOW LONG THIS PROCESS IS TAKING
SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU.
SO MANY ON THIS EVEN THIS ISSUE
EVEN CAME UP WITH NAPA. WHICH IT
SHOWED UP IN THE WALLSTREET
JOURNAL'S AND WHERE THOSE FIRE
MAPS AND YOU GUYS MADE NATIONAL
NEWS SO THE THE THE THE FIRE
THE.
SEPARATING OUT THE THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION.
REQUIREMENTS AND MAPPING THAT
WE'RE DOING THE VERY FIRE HALF
VERIFY VERY SORRY VERY HIGH FIRE
HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE MAPPING HAS
BEEN REQUIRED AS SINCE THE BASE
BUILDING AND DID OCCURRED AFTER
THE OAKLAND HILLS FIRE AT LEE
BEGINNING IN NINETEEN NINETY
THREE. HELLFIRE IS BEEN UPDATING
THOSE MAPS PERIODICALLY OVER THE
DECADES WE ARE STATUTORY
RESPONSIBILITIES TO NOT ONLY
MAP.
THE STATE RESPONSIBILITY YEARS
BUT WE MAP VERY HIGH FIRE HAZARD
SEVERITY ZONES FOR ALL OF THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AS
WELL WE'RE WE'RE WE ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR AND DO PROVIDE
ALL THAT INFORMATION. BACK TO
LOCAL GOVERNMENT IT'S LOCAL
GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO
ENSURE TO LOOK AT THOSE AND TO
ADOPT THOSE AND THAT INFORMATION
HAS BEEN OVER THE YEARS PROVIDED
TO ORANGE COUNTY ALONG WITH
EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE AND WE
ARE. VERY HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH THOSE COUNTIES TO HELP
ADJUDICATE THE INFORMATION. TO
ENSURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS
PROVIDED BUT.
ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS MAYBE
JUST TO CUT TO THE CHASE BECAUSE
A LIMITED TIME IS. IN NAPA. OF
SANTA ROSA WE SAW ELECTRICAL
LINES BEING BLAMED TRANSFORMERS
BLOWING UP WIND CAUSING THINGS
TO HAPPEN. FORTY FOUR PEOPLE
DYING.
.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M CONCERNED
ABOUT WILDFIRES POPULATED. ARE
WHAT WE GONNA DO TO WORK WITH
THE UTILITIES TO SAY HEY HOW DO
WE HARDEN YOUR ASSETS SO THAT
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
VERY GOOD QUESTION AND
ABSOLUTELY PART OF THE MAPPING
PROCESS HAS BEEN HELP TO HELP
DRIVE IN DIRECT THAT FOCUS SO
THAT WE KNOW WHERE THE
PRIORITIES ARE TO ASSIST
UTILITIES WITH PROVIDING
RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I'M
ASSUMING SOME REGULATORY AS
WELL.
ON WHERE THE HARDING NEEDS TO
OCCUR. IT'S WORKING ON ALL
ASPECTS OF IT IS THE PUBLIC
EDUCATION COMPONENT. WORKING
BEEN WE HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY
WITH THE UTILITIES. OVER THE
YEARS BUT IT'S REALLY RAMPING UP
OUR ENGAGEMENT IN THAT PUBLIC
EDUCATION EFFORT. IT'S FOCUSING
MITIGATION DOLLARS WHERE WE CAN
LEVERAGE. THE STATE'S EFFORTS
AGAINST WHAT THE UTILITIES ARE
DOING FOR THEIR MITIGATION WORKS
AGAIN WE CAN GET THE BIGGEST
BANG. FOR THE BUCK ALL THESE
UTILITY CORRIDORS PASSED THROUGH
PRIVATE PUBLIC LANDS AND SO HOW
DO WE INCORPORATE WHAT THE
UTILITIES ARE DOING IN POWER
LINE CLEARANCE AND MAINTENANCE
AND SUPPORT. WITH BIGGER
PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH
PRIVATE INDUSTRY WITH THE FOREST
SERVICE. WITH MANY OF OUR
LANDOWNERS OUT THERE SO TOGETHER
WE ALL BROUGHT TOGETHER ONE SET
OF PROJECTS THAT WORKING
TOGETHER WE FIRE SAFETY OR AND
MADE OUR FORCE RESILIENT. GIVEN
ALL WORK ON FINDING SOME FUNDING
FOR THAT THIS YEAR THANK YOU
BECAUSE IT'S CRITICAL MY LAST
COMMENT IN FACT I I BRING THIS
UP BECAUSE I JUST WANNA GET IT
CLEARED UP. BECAUSE IT WAS A A
SUBSTANTIAL ORANGE COUNTY INTO
ACTOR WHO ACTUALLY HAS A
VINEYARD IN NAPA COUNTY. AND HE.
HE SAID. THAT HE HAD A FEAR OF
BIOTERRORISM.
IN ORANGE COUNTY WE HAD SOMEONE
DRIVING UP IN OUR SANTA ANA
MOUNTAINS LIGHTS OFF WEARING ALL
BLACK CLOTHING. TRYING TO BE
HIDDEN BUT WAS SETTING FIRES.
THAT WAS REPORTED IN THE NEWS.
AND WHEN HE WAS.
CONFRONTED HE WAS SET SAT AT THE
TIME OF THAT
HISTORIC WINS. AND SO NOW WHEN
YOU LOOK AT UP YOU DON'T SEE ANY
REPORTS ON THAT BUT YOU SEE
CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND. AND SO
I I I JUST WANT TO.
SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME
LEGITIMATE PEOPLE THAT AT LEAST
CONTACTED ME AND SAID THERE'S
SOMETHING GOING ON. THAT IS IS
AWKWARD BUTTON BUT NO ONE'S
MENTIONED IN THAT THAT'S MY LAST
QUESTION MADAM CHAIR I. I JUST
WANT TO GET THAT ANSWER FROM THE
CHEAP.
SO I AM SURE EVERYBODY THERE'S
NO CONSPIRACY THEORY RIGHT NOW
ABOUT STARTED THERE'S WILDLAND
FIRES BEING STARTED ACROSS THE
COUNTRY TO STATE.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT
CERTAINLY AND AND AND DIRECTOR
MUELLER DUTY IN HIS ROLE.
IN HOMELAND SECURITY EITHER WE
LOOK AT THESE THINGS EVERY DAY
WERE MANAGING A WE'RE LOOKING AT
WHERE THOSE THREATS ARE.
PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE BUT YES
CERTAINLY WILDLAND FIRE HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO BE USED AS A TOOL
THAT WAY AND WE WE INVESTIGATE
EVERY.
WHILE AND HOWEVER RESPONSIBILITY
TO INVESTIGATE THE CAUSE IN
ORIGIN EVERY FIRE THAT OCCURS.
MANY OF THOSE ARE DONE BY OUR
ENGINE COMPANY OFFICERS. OUT BUT
WHEN WE GET IN THESE MORE
COMPLEX FIRES OR ANYTHING THAT
LOOKS LIKE IT'S GETTING BEYOND
THE SCOPE OF AN ENGINE COMPANY
OFFICER.
UP TRAIN FIRE INVESTIGATOR TAKES
OVER THAT INVESTIGATION. IN
WHICH OFTEN TIMES DUE TO THE
TASK FORCE WORKING WITH LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER
PROFESSIONALS ALONG WITH CAL
FIRES. TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED
INVESTIGATORS. I CAN TELL YOU
THAT. NINETY FIVE PERCENT OF THE
FIRES IN CALIFORNIA YES ARE
STARTED BY PEOPLE.
ACTUAL INTENTIONAL ACT OF
STARTING FIRES IS VERY LOW. IT'S
TYPICALLY IT'S OFF HOLD MARY OUT
OF THINGS THAT OCCUR. IN THE
WILD LANDS PEOPLE DRIVING THEIR
CATHOLIC CONVERTER OFF THAT TO
THE EDGE OF THE ROAD. USING
GRINDERS AND WELDERS AND LOWERS
AND WEED EATERS ALL AT THE WRONG
TIMES OF THE DAY IN THE WRONG
PLACE. YES THERE ARE FIRES THAT
OURS CAN BE STARTED BEEN STARTED
BY UTILITIES AND OTHER
ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT
THERE ARE LOTS ANY ANYTHING IN
THE WILD LAND IS IN NYC BUT YOU
KNOW THEY CAN BE A POTENTIAL
IGNITION SOURCE IS SOMETHING WE
HAVE TO GO AFTER. OTHER THAN
LIGHTNING WE CAN LOOK AT THESE
NINETY FIVE PERCENT CAUSES AND
CERTAINLY ANYTHING THAT IS AN
ARSON FIRE OR AN INTENTIONAL
FIRE. BOMB IT HAS A HIGHER LEVEL
IT'S VERY FORENSIC REQUIRES A
LOT OF DATA GATHERING AND WE ARE
VERY CAREFUL NOT TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT GOES ON THERE'S A LOT OF.
SUPPOSITION I KNOW IN THE MEDIA
UP BUT YOU KNOW THIS INFORMATION
WILL BE OUT IT WILL BE OUT. SOON
BUT WE'VE GOT TO ALLOW THE
INVESTIGATORS TO COMPLETE THEIR
WORK BECAUSE AS YOU MIGHT
IMAGINE THIS. YOU KNOW BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS OF COURSE IN DAMAGES
THERE'S A LOT AT STAKE FOR MANY
MANY. COMMUNITIES AND MUCH HERE
AND SO IT'S IN CRITICAL THAT ALL
WE GET THIS RIGHT AND WE DON'T
RESPOND TO THE SUPPOSITION BUT I
CAN ASSURE YOU.
IF THERE WERE CONSPIRACY
THEORIES THAT WE WOULD BE VERY
WE ARE TALKING CONSTANTLY ABOUT
THIS AND NOT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE
INVENTED. IN THE STATES.
THREAT ASSESSMENT CENTER
LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THOSE
KINDS OF ISSUES.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE. THANK
YOU JEEVES THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR.
THE FOLLOW.
YES AND AND ONE OF THE
ADDITIONAL FACT DOORS ARE THESE
ILLEGAL GROWERS.
AND THE THEY ARE FOR LEFT THINK.
IN OUR FORCE THERE IS IN OUR
WILD LANDS NOW.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A HANDLE
ON THE DEGREE TO WHICH THESE.
PEOPLE HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE
FIRES BUT IT'S A BIG DEAL.
AND I WANNA EMPHASIZE SEE.
COMMUNICATION AND THE EDUCATION
OF THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA. AND
THEY LOOK AT THESE FIRES.
AND RALIZED THE IMPACT.
ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND GLOBAL
WARMING.
SENATOR MOORE LIKE JUST
MENTIONED.
THE TREMENDOUS IMPACT OF THESE
MAJOR FIRES.
AND THE GOLDEN MUST BE TO DO
EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN.
TO PREVENT.
AND TO MANAGE THE FOREST IN THE
WILD LANDS.
IN SOME CASES THAT WILL REQUIRE
PLANNING.
ON THE FORCE AND WHILE LANCE.
TO GET THE TREES OUT AHEAD OF
THE. BRUSH.
THERE ARE AREAS WHERE THAT CAN
HAPPEN.
AND WE NEEDTO ARGUE THEN HOW
IMPORTANT ARE FOUR STAR. IN
TERMS OF SEQUESTRATION.
IT DIDN'T TAKE HIM DOWN.
YOU LOSE THAT.
AND ALSO THE IMPACT ON WILDLIFE.
THEY LOSE THEIR HABITAT.
THEY LOSE THEIR LIVES.
AND SOME OF THESE FIRES GET SO
HOT AND THEY.
VERILY.
STERILIZE THE GROUND.
FOR YEARS.
YOU CAN'T EVEN RECOVER IT.
MY POINT IS HOW SERIOUSLY I HOPE
THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA.
TAKE THIS
THREAT.
AND IT ISN'T JUST NOW AS WE'VE
SEEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN.
MORE RURAL AREAS.
THIS AFFECTED.
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE
CITIES.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH NORTH
SANTA ROSA.
AND AROUND BARN WITH A TERRIBLE
LOSS THAT WAS SUCH A HISTORIC.
LANDMARK.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
DEVASTATION.
IT WAS LIKE LOOKING AT GUERNICA.
FOR SOME OF THOSE.
THE TRAGEDIES OF THE WARS.
ABSOLUTELY LOVED.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH NAPA.
PRESENTED DURING THAT TIME THE
EIGHTY SIX FIRES.
FORTUNATELY THOSE DID NOT COME
DOWN INTO THE.
UNDER THE VALLEY. FOR THE VALLEY
FLOOR.
THESE DEBTS.
AND YOUR POINT WELL TAKEN ABOUT.
THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE WINDS.
THAT I REPRESENT WITH THESE
CANYONS ALL MY GOSH.
I COMPLIMENT YOU. ALL.
FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND I'M HOPEFUL.
THE ONE OF THE.
I GUESS SILVER LINING TO THIS
GREAT TRAGEDY WE SUFFERED LAST
YEAR IS A GREATER PUBLIC
AWARENESS.
THAT THIS IS THAT IS A MESSAGE
TO OUR
LEGISLATURE.
THAT THIS IS.
A PRIORITY.
AND HERE WE'VE ALSO LOST.
A LOT OF LIVES.
I WILL.
THEN WITH AN ARGUMENT THOUGH.
I DO NOT SEE THE ANSWER.
AS MAKING IT SO PROHIBITIVELY
COSTLY.
FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE. IN THE RURAL
AREAS.
THERE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE
ADVOCATED WE SHOULD STOP LETTING
PEOPLE.
ESTABLISH RESIDENCES OUT IN THE
RURAL AREAS.
AND I I DO NOT WANT TO ASCRIBE
TO THAT THEORY.
THERE IS.
THE BEAUTY IN A WONDERFUL LIST
OF THAT KIND OF LIFE.
I KNOW BECAUSE I'VE LIVED IT.
AND I REPRESENTED.
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
THEY DO.
MADAM CHAIR I DO WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR LETTING US HAVE THIS
HEARING I KNOW WE'RE NOT DONE
YET BUT TO. THIS IS VERY
SIGNIFICANT.
AND VERY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF
PUBLIC.
INFORMATION THANK YOU SIR SIR
MCGUIRE.
MADAM CHAIR IN NOT AT ALL TRYING
TO BE RUDE AND CHAIR AT BUT
AFTER ITS COMES AND YOU HAVE TO
ROLL OUT TO YOU. FOR THE
INFORMATION HEREIN TONIGHT SO I
DO APOLOGIZE YOU INTO THE
ADDRESS THE APPRECIATE YOU
SENATOR THANK YOU SO MUCH NTO
APOLOGIES CHIEF GEYSERS HERE'S
WELL. FROM SANTA ROSA.
A JUST A FEW ITEMS I I THINK
NUMBER ONE.
COMING OFF OF THE WORST FIRES
ARE A STATE'S HISTORY I THINK
WE'RE PAST THE DEBATE THAT.
.
THESE FIRES OUR IMPRESSION IN
THE REASON I SAY THAT IS EACH
YEAR WE SAY THAT THE FIRES ARE
IN PRESIDENT EVERY YEAR.
AND WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAST
DECADE THE WORST FIRES.
THAT HAS HIT THIS STATE IN NOW
MOST DEADLY DESTRUCTIVE AND OUR
NATION IN MODERN AMERICAN
HISTORY HAS HAD TO STATE IT JUST
KEEP GETTING WORSE.
WE DO HAVE THIS NEW NORMAL AND
WE ARE CAUGHT CANDIDLY MY BELIEF
FLAT FOOTED. BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN
OVERWHELMED WITH SEVERITY THE
SCOPE OF THESE WILD AND FIRES.
AND I ALSO TO SAY THAT WE HAVE
UP ON THE GOLD STANDARD WITH THE
GOLD STANDARD A MUTUAL AID
SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT NORTH
AMERICA.
BUT NO ONE CAN PUT A HAND ON TO
CALIFORNIA MUTUAL AID SYSTEM BUT
BECAUSE OF THE SEVERITY AND THE
STRENGTH OF THESE WILD AND FIRES
WE'RE. OVERWHELMED.
.
KEEP IN MIND AND MENTIONED NINE
THOUSAND FIRES WE HAD FIRES TWO
THOUSAND FIFTEEN IN DECEMBER IN
HUMBLE COUNTY ONE OF THE WETTEST
SPOT ON EARTH.
.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE JUST DON'T
HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES. AT THE
LOCAL OR STATE LEVELS TO MOVE
EQUIPMENT.
TO COMBAT WHAT THIS NEW NORMAL
IS. IN TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT
CALIFORNIANS.
AND TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN
THIRTY SIX THOUSAND MUTUAL AID
REQUESTS. WERE A DANCE.
THIRTY ONE PERCENT OF THOSE WENT
UNFILLED ELEVEN THOUSAND.
IN THE FIRST TWELVE HOURS THE
NORTH BAY FIRESTORM.
OVER THREE HUNDRED MUTUAL AID IN
JEANS WERE REQUESTED TO JOIN THE
FIGHT.
BUT ONLY A HUNDRED AND THIRTY
ENGINES ARRIVED THE FIRST TWELVE
HOURS.
AGAIN THIS IS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH
CAPACITY IN THE SYSTEM.
THAT IS WHY I THINK YOU'RE GONNA
SEE.
SEVERAL
MEMBERS ADVOCATING.
FOUR HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS-MORE ANNUALLY. NOT TO BE
ABLE TO
NOT JUST INVEST IN ADDITIONAL
EQUIPMENT PERSONNEL BUT TO BE AT
EXPAND BEYOND WITH WITHIN OUR
DISPATCHING SYSTEM. AND
MODERNIZE CAFFERTY'S MUTUAL AID
SYSTEM AND BY THE WAY.
THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ASKING
TO BE FUNDED THIS YEAR. WERE
ADVANCING TWO THOUSAND THREE.
GOVERNORS BLUE RIBBON COMMISSION
IN TWO THOUSAND THREE SAID THAT
WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS.
WELL OVER A DECADE AGO.
IN MY BELIEF THAT WE ARE NOW
PAYING THAT PRICE.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON
THE ISSUE OF. PREVENTATIVE
ABSOLUTELY I THINK THAT WE ALSO
NEED TO BE. READY TO REACT.
INCREASED AGE FIREFIGHTERS AN
APPARATUS AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH WHEN WE HAVE A
SIGNIFICANT RED FLAG EVENT IN
THIS STATE. TRYING TO BE ABLE TO
GET.
PERSONNEL UP AND DOWN. THAT THIS
NATION STATE IS VERY DIFFICULT I
WHICH IS WHY WE NEED TO BE ABLE
TO MODERNIZE OUR FLEET.
MODERNIZED EQUIPMENT EVER USING
TO BE ABLE GET BOOTS ON THE
GROUND. I I THINK THE OTHER
CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS DEBRIS
REMOVAL.
WE WERE DEPENDING ON THE ARMY
CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR DEBRIS
REMOVAL AND GOD BLESS THEM.
BUT THERE WAS A LABOR DISPUTE.
AND THE POTENTIAL OF THE INDIAN
ALL DEBRIS REMOVAL FOR NINETY
DAYS WAS REAL IN FACT WE CAME
SEVEN TWO HOURS FROM NOW. THAT
MEANS WE'RE GONNA TELL SIX
THOUSAND PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR
HOME SIX THOUSAND FAMILIES WHO
LOST THEIR HOME. HANG ON.
WE'RE GONNA SOLVE THIS PISSING
MATCH.
THE MEAN TIME. I. YOU'RE GONNA
HAVE TO SIT THERE AND WAIT TO
HAVE YOUR PROPERTY CLEANED UP.
THIS STATE IS TOO BIG TO BE LEFT
AS VULNERABLE AS WE ARE TOO
REDICULOUS DISPUTE AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL. AND SO WHEN
THERE'S A DISPUTE AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL.
BY FEDERAL LAW THE CONTRACT IS
PAUSED.
NOTHING CAN MOVE WE DON'T HAVE
THAT THINK IT'D RECORD YOUR DUTY
HE ALWAYS HAS A PLAN B. IN HIS
BACK POCKET IT THOUGHT ABOUT
THAT. HE MOVED ESTATE CONTRACT
BE ABLE TO KEEP THE PRE REMOVAL
ADVANCED BUT WE'RE EXTREMELY
VULNERABLE BOTH ON THE FRONT
END.
ON THE FIRE FIGHTING RESOURCE
AND ON THE BACK IN TO TRY TO BE
A CLEAN UP OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND WE ARE TOO BIG IN THIS STATE
TO BE ABLE TO BE DEPENDENT ON
OUTSIDE FORCES I THINK THE OTHER
ITEM AND LIKE TO BE I'D HAVE THE
DIRECTOR TALK ABOUT THIS. SHOULD
WE BE LOOKING AT OUR OWN PRIME
CONTRACTOR SYSTEM SO WE MAY NOT
BE. ONE THAT WE MAY NOT TO RELY
JUST ON THE FED'S IF WE HAVE
ANOTHER MASSIVE EVENT AND AGAIN.
GOD BLESS THE ARMY CORPS I THINK
THEY'RE THEY HAVE DONE YEOMAN'S
WORK.
BUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES THEN I
WON'T GET INTO THAT HERE TODAY.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THE DIRECTOR TO
BE WILLING TO RESPOND I DO I
ALSO LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE
REIMBURSEMENT ISSUE. AS I WAS
ASKING EARLIER BECAUSE I THINK
WE DO HAVE AN INTEGRATED SYSTEM.
AND THE ONLY OTHER ITEM MADAM
CHAIR I WOULD ASK FOR HIM TO
RESPOND IS.
WE HAVE COUNTIES IN THIS STATE
THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO
BE A PUSH ON EMERGENCY ALERTS.
EARTHQUAKE TERRORISM FIRE.
THOSE RESIDENTS WILL NOT BE HIT
WITH AN EMERGENCY ALERT.
WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN THE NORTH
BAY? AND I GET EMOTIONAL
THINKING ABOUT IT. WE HAD FORTY
FOUR PEOPLE DIE.
FORTY FOUR.
OUR PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICE.
WHERE THEIR MOTHER? DIED IN HER
MOBILE HOME COACH NEVER GOT ONE
DAMN PHONE CALL NEVER.
SEVENTY TWO CELL PHONE TOWERS
ARE DOWN. LAND LINES ARE DOWN.
WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE
ON THE MOVE ALERT ON THE RADIO
ON THE TELEVISION AS WELL AS OUR
DIGITAL BILLBOARDS IN THE
HIGHWAY SYSTEM.
WE HAD THE FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY
THE WORLD WE NEED A MODERNIZED
WE NEED TO MODERNIZE OUR
EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM IN ALL
FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES HAVE A
STANDARD SET OF PROTOCOLS.
STANDARD SET UP EQUIPMENT
TRAINING FOR ALL EMERGENCY
MANAGERS WHICH HAS FALLEN FLAT
QUITE CANDIDLY. IN WE HAVE TO
DEVELOP PROTOCOLS WHEN THESE
ARMORED SEALERS ARE GONNA BE.
DEPLOYED.
AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FIND
THOSE COUNTIES ARE EVEN HAVE
EMERGENCY ALERT EQUIPMENT. TO
HELP THEM PURCHASE SO I SAY ALL
THIS AS I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
TO BOTH THE CHIEF AND THE
DIRECTOR AND MANAGER THANK YOU
FOR HOSTING US TODAY. BUT IF YOU
DON'T MIND MISTER DIRECTOR AND
CHIEF TO BE AN ANSWER THOSE
QUESTIONS AND RESPONDS.
THANKS CENTER REQUIRE.
WELL I MEAN.
FIRST OF ALL OVER ARCHING LET ME
LET ME JUST. SAY I AGREE WITH
EVERYTHING THAT YOU YOU JUST.
HOW LIGHT THERE'S NO QUESTION?
THAT.
CALIFORNIA YOU KNOW DOES HAVE A
PHENOMENAL SYSTEM.
BUT AS I SAID IN MY TESTIMONY
EARLIER THIS SYSTEM IS STRETCHED
IT IS BEING USED IN IN A MUCH.
MORE FREQUENT MANNER. AND FOR.
OUT FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME.
GIVEN THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE
BEEN SEEING AND. AS THE STATE
HAS CHANGED OUR IMAGE
DEMOGRAPHICS AND AND IT'S EDITS
THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SOME OF OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE
SYSTEMS HAVE STAYED UP BUT MOST
OF THEM HAVE SOME KIND OF. NOT
NECESSARILY COME ALONG WITH
EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED
IN CALIFORNIA AND WITHOUT
QUESTION.
THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE
CONTINUE TO DO IT NEED
IMPROVEMENT.
AND ASSETS.
.
A QUICK METHOD RESOURCES JUST
ONE PIECE OF IT.
.
YOU KNOW EXPANDING OUR TRAINING
CAPABILITIES ACROSS THE BOARD AT
EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT AND
BEING ABLE TO TO MAKE SURE WE
HAVE ENOUGH. FUNDING AND AND
RESOURCES TO PROVIDE THAT
TRAINING. IS IMPORTANT AFTER THE
NINETY TWO OR THREE THE OAKLAND
HILLS FIRE. THERE WERE
SIGNIFICANT CHANGES MADE IN OUR
SYSTEM.
ONLY BACK UP IN THE SEVENTIES
WE HAD THE BELL ARE FIRES THAT
PROMPTED.
THE STATE AND THE FIRE SERVICE
TO BUILD THE INCIDENT COMMAND
SYSTEM. AFTER THE OLD FIRES IN
OAKLAND HILLS THAT PROMPTED THE
STATE AND THE LEGISLATURE TO PUT
IN THE STANDARDIZED EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM EACH EVENTS.
HELP TIES TO BUILD A GREATER
CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH
THE THREATS THAT WE WERE FACING.
AND OUT AND WE ARE NOW THE
WATERSHED MOMENT WE ARE ANOTHER
MOMENT WHERE WE NEED TO UP A
SERIOUSLY LOOK AT. THE RESOURCES
AND OUR CAPABILITIES. TO FOR
WHAT WE DO TODAY TO PREPARE FOR
THE NEXT. TWENTY YEARS AND AND I
KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRE
TODAY.
I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS
THE THE CHALLENGES WITH FIRE BUT
IN THIS STATE.
THE BIG EARTHQUAKE IS COMING.
YEAH OUR ABILITY IF YOU THINK
THAT THIS IS BEEN A CHALLENGE TO
RECOVER FROM THIS.
WAIT TILL WE GET. HEY WERE FAULT
EARTHQUAKE EVENT OR SOMETHING ON
THE CENTER OR CASCADIA SUBJECTS
JOHN ABOUT HIS OWN EVENT. UP. TO
DEBRIS WHY TALK TO BREED WE'RE
NOW TALKING ABOUT MASSIVE
AMOUNTS OF DEBRIS.
EVENT THAT ARE GOING TO REQUIRE.
ALL HANDS ON DECK TO BE ABLE TO
ADDRESS THIS. SO BOB SPEAK
SPECIFICALLY THAT THE SENATOR
MAKARS COMMENT ABOUT POINTS. YES
I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD LOOK
TO.
ENHANCING STATE STAND BY
CONTRACTS FOR DEBRIS CONTRACTORS
WITH STATE CONTRACTS THAT ARE
MORE FLEXIBLE AND REASONABLE.
WITH SET METRICS IN PLACE FOR.
FOR IT FOR.
FOR.
UP DEBRIS CONTRACTORSTO MEET
TIME FRAMES AND AND RESOURCE
REQUIREMENTS. AND AND AND LOOK
AS I SAID IN MY TESTIMONY.
CAL RECYCLE. HAS DONE A
TREMENDOUS JOB BUT BUT THEY ARE
LIMITED IN THEIR CAPACITY IN
WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT THEIR
SCOPE IS WE HAVE PUSHED THEM.
YES IS PUSHED OUR CYCLE. MANY
MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR IS
NOT JUST THESE BIG EVENTS SAMPER
A DETAIL THAT IS
REQUIRED CALORIE CYCLE TO GO IN
AND CLEAN THESE EVENTS UP. AND
AND AND SO WHEN WE HAD THIS
EVENT. WE KNEW THAT THAT THAT
OUR STATE CAPACITY THE GREAT
STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S CAPACITY
WAS LIMITED IN OUR BELLY AND WE
HAD TO TURN TO THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT NOW IT'S NOT
UNCOMMON.
IN THE DISASTER ENVIRONMENT THAT
WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WE ARE WE
HAVE TO DO THAT IN A PARTNERSHIP
THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE THE CASE
THAT EARTHQUAKE AS WELL. BUT BUT
I I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN
AREA WE COULD BUILD GREATER
CAPACITY US SO THAT WE HAVE THAT
AS A PRIMARY. IN OUR ABILITY TO
RESPOND FORWARD IN THE IMMEDIACY
OF CLEANING UP DEBRIS BECAUSE.
THE FAST YOU CAN GET THAT THE
BRICKLAYING DOUBT. THE FASTER WE
CAN GET THAT COMMUNITY
RECOVERING AND WE CAN WE CAN
MOVE ON.
AND GET OURSELVES BACK ON ORDER.
THE SECOND PIECE IS
REIMBURSEMENT.
.
YOU KNOW OUR REMEMBERS WHEN HIS
COCKY.
AGAIN BUILT FOR A SYSTEM THAT
HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNED TO BE
UTILIZED. AT THE FREQUENCY AT
THE MAGNITUDE THAT WE ARE DOING
IT TODAY.
THE TEAMS THAT ARE AT.
YES WORKING ON REIMBURSEMENT.
OUR RECOVERY TEAMS NOT JUST ON
REIMBURSEMENT FOR FIREFIGHTERS
RESPONDING AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
PERSONNEL BUT THE ABILITY TO
MANAGE THE REIMBURSEMENT
OPERATIONS AND THE RECOVERY
OPERATIONS.
THEY ARE JUST LITERALLY THEY ARE
IT'S LIKE THAT KID WITH HIS
FINGER IN THE DIKE YOU THERE
THEY'RE HOLDING BACK AND THEY'RE
WORKING.
THERE.
TOUCHES OFF BOB.
EVERY DAY.
TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT
THAT THESE REIMBURSEMENTS ARE
MOVING FORWARD. OUR RECOVERY
OPERATIONS OVER ALL. HOW ARE
STILL DESIGNED?
FOR. THE NINETIES IN THE WAY WE
WERE DOING BUSINESS THAT.
THEY'RE NOT POSITIONED IN A
PLACE TO BE ABLE TO BE PREPARED
FOR THAT THE NEXT THE NEXT TEN
YEARS TWENTY YEARS SO SO I I
WOULD SAY TO SENATOR THAT THAT.
JUST FIRE REMEMBERS BUT THAT
PROCESS THERE HAS BEEN
IMPROVEMENTS MADE BUT AGAIN
BASED UPON THE ENORMITY OF THE
MAGNITUDE AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING
NOW IS THE NEW NORM. IT DOES
REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ATTENTION
INTO THE CHAIR I HOPE MY WORDS
ARE COMING OFF AS THROWN STONES
NO NO I ACTUALLY NO I I THINK
THAT. KNOWING WHAT WE ARE FACING
NOW WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE TO BE
PREPARED. FOR THE YEARS AND
DECADES TO COME.
SO AND THEN MUST IT BE IN THE
EAR OF A LEARNING SYSTEM.
.
HISTORICALLY EMERGENCY.
ALERTING SYSTEMS SIDE GENERALLY
FOUR CASES OF EVACUATION HOUSES
MATERIALS RELEASES MAYBE AN
ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATION. ARE
TYPICALLY DRIVEN AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL. THIS IS WHERE BETTER
HAPPENING AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
MOST OF TIME IT MAKES NO SENSE
AND WE DON'T DO THIS TO THE
STATE FOR THE STATE TO COME IN
AND LAY OVER ON EVACUATION ALERT
NOTICE BECAUSE. THE LOCAL IT'S A
COMMAND TEAMS THE LOCAL TEAMS
ARE ARE HAVE THAT SETS DOWN. THE
ISSUE IS IS BEEN THERE'S BEEN NO
REAL STANDARD ACROSS THE STATE
WITH REGARDS TO HOW THOSE
MESSAGES WILL BE CRAFTED. AND.
AND AND UTILIZE UNDER CERTAIN
KINDS OF CONDITIONS AND.
AND AGAIN A LOT OF THIS IS
BECAUSE HISTORICALLY.
CALIFORNIA COUNTIES.
HAVE NOT HAD THE REQUIREMENTS
TO DO THE KIND OF.
EVACUATION ORDERS THE
FREQUENCIES THAT WE ARE NOW
SEEING.
EAST COAST HURRICANE PRONE AREAS
IT'S PRETTY REGULAR AND THE
PUBLIC HAS BECOME A CUSTOM AND
THEY BECOME A PARTNER IN BEING
ABLE TO REACT APPROPRIATELY. SO
WE HAVE A. WE HAVE A A WORKLOAD
AHEAD OF US OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO
START WORKING ON STANDARDIZING
THOSE ACROSS THE. STATE THE
COUNTY WILL UTILIZE BOTH IN
STANDARDS AND IN AND IN PROCESS
ARM AND ENDS AND MAKE SURE THAT
THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES ARE
UTILIZING ALL THE TOOLS IN THE
TOOLBOX. MANY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
HAVE CHOSEN TO PROCURING
UTILIZE.
ALL WHAT'S CALLED OPT IN A
WARNING SYSTEMS THAT MEANS THAT
YOU AS A RESIDENT HAVE TO
PHYSICALLY OFTEN.
MANY RESIDENTS QUITE FRANKLY
ACROSS THE STATE HAVE THE ADMIN
RETICENT ARE RELUCTANT TO
PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO
GOVERNMENT. VERSES A FEDERAL
SYSTEM HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE
CALLED A WE ARE THE WIRELESS
EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM IS HOW
YOU GET YOUR AMBER ALERTS.
DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU'RE
OPT IN OR OPT OUT BUT SHE
UTILIZED DURING THESE CASES
WHERE. YOU HAVE TO DO. TO MET
NOTIFICATION TEXT MESSAGE THAT
GOES OUT THE EVERYBODY'S PHONE
WHETHER YOU'RE.
OPT IN OR OPT OUT WITH YOUR
RESIDENT OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO
GET YOUR YOUR YOUR NOTICE AND
THIS IS BEING UTILIZED MORE MORE
CROSS COUNTRY. IS IT STILL NEEDS
WORK.
IT IS.
IT.
IT IS THE IT IT'S A IT'S IT'S
GRANULAR CAPABILITIES TO
DETERMINE EXACTLY WHERE THE
OTHER ONE IS THE TARGET THE
MESSAGE. IS GETTING BETTER BUT
IT STILL NEEDS WORK AND DUMB AND
SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE
LOOKING AT THAT AND IN CASES
WHERE THERE ARE MULTIPLE SITES
COUNTIES INVOLVED OR SOMETHING
THAT HAS A MAJOR IMPACT LIKE WE
DID IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. ON A
COUPLE MONTHS AGO THE STATE HAS
THE ABILITY TO PUT OUT A WEE A
MESSAGE WE DID THAT TWENTY ONE
MILLION PEOPLE ACROSS THE EIGHT
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COUNTIES.
DRIVING THEM BACK TO LOOKING AT
THEIR. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
OF MESSAGING AND OFFER
POSITIVE CASE THAT THE ISSUE IS
THAT IT DOES TAKE.
I'D BETTER EDUCATION AND AND
NOW WORK WITH OUR LOCAL
COMMITTEE SO TO SAY THAT UP WE
DO HAVE CAPABILITIES BUT AGAIN.
IT'S A NEW NORM AND WE HAVE MORE
WORK TO DO IN THAT AREA.
THANK YOU US THROUGH THE
SCANNER.
FOLLOWED BY SENATOR ROBB.
THANKS SO MUCH I'M IN A.
PRECIADO VERY MUCH UP ALL OF
YOUR TESTIMONY AND.
.
THE ARMCHAIR IN THE STAFFER
PUTTING THIS HEARING TOGETHER.
I'M ASKING FEW QUESTIONS AROUND.
AS CHAIR OF SUB FIVE THE PUBLIC
SAFETY BUDGET SO I WANT TO ASK A
FEW QUESTIONS RELATED TO OUR.
.
THE AUGMENTATION OF OUR FIRE
FIGHTING FORCE WITH OUR INMATES
BUT BEFORE I DO THAT I WANT TO
AND EXPRESS MY. APPRECIATION.
BUT MR YOUR DUTY FOR YOUR
REFERENCING. THE.
LEGITIMATELY OUR LEGITIMATE
CONCERN ABOUT THE.
TRAGEDY OF THESE FIRES AND OUR
ON GOING FOR ATTENTION FOR FIRES
IN OUR PAST FIRES. BUT ALSO
REMINDING US. THAT WHILE
EARTHQUAKES OF THE TYPE OF THE
MAGNITUDE OF DISASTER THAT THIS
FIRE JUST BECAUSE DON'T
NECESSARILY HAPPEN EVERY YEAR.
WHEN THEY DO HAPPEN.
THEIR DAMAGES EVEN GREATER SO I
WOULD JUST RAISE FOR EXAMPLE
NORTHRIDGE THE NORTHRIDGE
EARTHQUAKE FIFTY SEVEN DEATHS.
AND I TWENTY BILLION IN LOSSES.
THE LOMA PRIETA EARTHQUAKE SIXTY
SOME ODD DEATHS.
AND NOT QUITE AS HIGH DAMAGE
BUT.
IN MORE IN THE ORDER OF THAT
EIGHT BILLION IN LOSSES.
AND WE KNOW THAT.
ALL OF OUR AREAS THAT EARTHQUAKE
SUSCEPTIBLE HAVE GAINED IN
POPULATION AND WHILE WE'VE DONE
OUR BEST TO IMPROVE THE
BUILDINGS.
I'M DARK EARTHQUAKE AT THE
STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY WE'VE STILL
GOT A LONG WAY TO GO THERE'S A
HECK OF A LOT OF THE.
RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THAT SOFT
STORY THERE ALSO STILL MANY
UNREINFORCED MASONRY AND ANY
NUMBER OF THINGS AND WHILE WE
HAVE NOW. REINFORCED MANY OF
OUR.
FREEWAY STRUCTURES AND SUCH WE
HAVE NOT COMPLETED THAT AND
THERE IS IN LOS ANGELES ALONE IS
STILL A GREAT DEAL OF OUR
FREEWAYS THAT HAVE REGARD VERY.
.
AT.
NOT.
PROPERLY.
YES THEY'RE FRAGILE YES AND OUR.
SO ANYWAY I JUST BRING IT TO OUR
ATTENTION BECAUSE.
DISASTERS ARE UNFORTUNATELY YOU
BROUGHT UP HURRICANES.
THE.
FIRES AND EARTHQUAKES I WOULD
PUT NOT JUST FIRES AS OUR
HURRICANE BUT FIRES AND
EARTHQUAKES.
AND MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IF
THE LEVEES BREAK WE SHOULD PUT
FLIGHTS IN THERE. ARM SO OUR
LONG RANGE ARE BOTH SHORT RANGE
AND LONG RANGE
THINKING
BUDGETARY LEAVE MUST INCORPORATE
ALL.
AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
HEARING BUT I JUST WANTED TO.
YOU KNOW PUT THAT IN THAT
CONTEXT.
AND.
AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE
REFERENCE TO THE URBAN INTERFACE
THAT WHILE IF WE LOOK AT THE
CHARTS.
THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE EXAMPLE.
SUCH WINDS COULD OCCUR
AGAIN IN THE OAKLAND BERKELEY
AREA. ALL THOSE STRUCTURES ARE
RIGHT BACK IN THERE STILL
EUCALYPTUS. AND I WE COULD HAVE
MORE DEATHS IN MORE.
PROPERTY DESTRUCTION THEN WE
JUST EXPERIENCED JUST DUE T THE
DENSITIES THERE IF WE HAD THAT
LEVEL OF WIND YOU KNOW THOSE
UNIQUE CONDITIONS AGAIN.
SO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT SAYS TO US
I DON'T KNOW MEANING THAT. THE
STRUCTURES ARE ALREADY THERE
RIGHT WE DID NOT DO THE
ADAPTATION THAT MISTER WHITE
CASKEY REFERENCE RIGHT WE
ALREADY ALLOWED THE EXACT IN
EFFECT EXACT SAME LAND USE WE
DID CHANGE THINGS LIKE NOT ALLOW
FOR WOULD. SHAKE SHINGLE OR
WHATEVER RIGHT OTHER THINGS SO
HOPEFULLY WOULDN'T. BUT THE
OTHER CONDITIONS ARE STILL THERE
SO.
YOU KNOW MY REAL POINT OF ALL
THAT IS MORE JUST THAT WE HAVE A
VERY. BIG.
FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE TO.
FACTOR IN OUR ENGAGEMENT ON
THIS.
BUT NOW TO MY PUBLIC SAFETY AT.
I'M.
BUT.
MR HIM WHAT CAN YOU TELL US.
WHAT NUMBER A COUPLE OF OTHER
QUESTIONS?
AFTER SOME IF I MAKE
THEY WERE ALL VERY ENGAGED WITH.
I HAVE THE NUMBER RIGHT IN FRONT
OF ME IN TERMS OF THOSE CREWS
BUT LITERALLY I CAN TELL YOU. AT
LEAST TWO THIRDS OF THOSE HAND
CREWS WERE COMMITTED. TO FIRES
AROUND THE STATE DOES THE REST
WERE AVAILABLE IN ABOUT A
THOUSAND.
IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED SEVENTY.
SIX.
SO THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY AND
AGAINTHE NUMBERS VERY BUT YOU
HAVE ABOUT THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED
TO FOUR THOUSAND INMATES. IN
THIS PROGRAM AND SO TWO THIRDS
OF THEM. WERE ENGAGED IN THOSE
TWO FIRE SEIZURES EASILY THE
REST ARE STILL OUT RESPONDING TO
CALLS EVERY DAY.
AND. THOSE FOLKS WHO AS YOU'VE
INDICATED ARE ESSENTIAL TO THIS
EFFORT.
I'M WHAT IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY.
ONCE THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR.
TIME IN PRISON AND DIVE MADE
THEIR REHABILITATION WHAT IS
THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO.
WE'VE ESTABLISHED SO FAR IN THIS
HEARING OUR NEED. FOR TRAINING
QUALIFIED FOLKS IN OUR
INCREASING AS WE FACE INCREASING
OF FIRES. WHAT IS THERE ARE? TWO
THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS
PROFESSION.
THAT'S AN AREA WHERE INTO MANY
OF THE INMATES WHEN THEY. LEAVE
THE CONSERVATION CAN'T PROGRAM
GOING TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT.
OPPORTUNITIES TRADITIONALLY
THOUGH HAS NOT BEEN IN THE THE
FULL RANGE MUNICIPAL FIRE
FIGHTING IT'S BEEN AND THEY CAN
GO OVER TO WORK FOR. TREE WORK
TREE SERVICES BECAUSE THEY HAVE
A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WORKING OUT
WITH CHAIN SAWS AND AND WEEDING
TYPE EQUIPMENT MANY GO TO WORK
FOR SOME GOOD WORK FOR. OUR
COMMUNITY UP SEWAGE TREATMENT
FACILITIES BECAUSE WE HAVE A
WATER AND SEWER PLANT OPERATION
THEY SOME OF GET TRAINED TO THAT
LEVEL.
OTHER OTHER KINDS OF BOB.
ACTIVITIES.
YOU MAY HAVE YOU SEEN OBVIOUSLY
IN THE ALLEY WAS REPORT TO IN
THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET AS
PROPOSED. FOR THE FIRST TIME
DECISION EX OFFENDER PROGRAM
WHERE VERY SELECT INDIVIDUALS
FROM. OTHER CONSERVATION CAN'T
PROGRAM FOLKS ARE BITTER
SELECTED BY BOTH THE CORRECTIONS
IN KALIFORNIA DAFT. WILL HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH AN
ENGAGING A PROGRAM WHERE THEY
WILL NOT ONLY PERFORMS A HAND
CREW TO CAN INCREASE THE STATE'S
CAPACITY. TO HAVE THAT FIRE
FIGHTING HIM FOR WORK FORCE
PARTICULARLY THERE. ALONG THE
CENTRAL COAST BUT ALSO BE
PROVIDED TRAINING TO BE
CERTIFIED. IN THE BASIC
FIREFIGHTING TRAINING NOT JUST
WHILE LAND BUT IN THE FULL RANGE
OF FIRE FIGHTING. ESSENTIALLY
LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD FOR
THEM THEY'RE NOT GUARANTEED JOBS
BUT AT THE END OF THIS EIGHTEEN
MONTH PROGRAM.
IT'S REALLY UP TO THEM BUT THEY
WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE
THEY CAN'T TO APPLY. FOR
FIREFIGHTING JOBS AND ONCE THEY
RECEIVE THAT TRAINING.
WHAT ARE THE WHAT?
FOR EXAMPLE IS THERE ANYTHING IN
YOUR IN CALIFORNIA OWN HIRING
POLICIES THAT WOULD. BE AN
OBSTACLE TO THEIR BING EMPLOYED
BY CAL FIRE FOR EXAMPLE.
HELLFIRE COULD CURRENTLY AGAIN
IF THEY MET MINIMUM
QUALIFICATIONS. WOULD BE
COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER
INDIVIDUALS FOR A VARIETY OF CAL
FIRES FIRE FIGHTING POSITIONS.
FURTHER OBSTACLES TO CAL FIRE
OBVIOUSLY PLAYED A HUGE ROLE IN
THIS BUT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT
MUTUAL AID AND SO WE KNOW THAT.
FIREFIGHTING CREWS FROM ALL OVER
THE STATE.
I CAME TO THE AID OF THIS SO ARE
THEIR OBSTACLES TO THEIR.
TO THOSE SAME INDIVIDUALS.
ONCE THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED TO
BUT GETTING EMPLOYED BY OUR
OTHER FIRE AT.
AGENCIES IN THE STATE THERE
THERE ARE SOME HALLENGES IN THE
BROADER FIRE SERVICE LANDSCAPE
OF THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED ONE
BEING. THAT THE EMERGENCY
MEDICAL TECHNICIAN
CERTIFICATION.
IS UTILIZED BY ABOUT MOST FIRE
SERVICE AGENCIES ACROSS. THE
STATE CAL FIRE IT'S A DESIRED
QUALIFICATION BUT IT'S NOT
MANDATORY. BUT THE THE IBM T.
CERTIFICATION. DOES HAVE
REQUIREMENTS IN LAW RELATIVE TO
A FELONY CONVICTIONS AND THAT
CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE WERE
SITTING AND WORKING. WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STATUTE THAT
EXCLUDES.
THAT IS THAT IS CORRECT.
OKAY.
ANY OTHER BESIDE CMT IS THERE.
MANY.
WOULD SOMEONE FROM SAFE THERE
WAS A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT
DIDN'T REQUIRE THE ANTI.
MOST OTHER DEPARTMENTS REQUIRE
SOME LEVEL OF A BACKGROUND CHECK
AND THAT CAN VARY BY AGENCIES
NOT A STATUTORY FOR STATE
STATUTORY. REQUIREMENT BUT THAT
IS AN ISSUE FOR MANY DEPARTMENTS
THAT HAVING TO WORK THROUGH
THEIR BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS
AS TO WHETHER THAT WOULD BE A
DISQUALIFYING. ACT AT ISSUE OR
NOT BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY
OTHER STATE STATUTORY.
ISSUE SPECIFICALLY RELATIVE TO
THIS THE EMT CERTIFICATION.
I SPEND THE ONE KEY THAT'S BEEN
IDENTIFIED THEN JUST LASTLY. I
MEAN YOU'VE ALREADY INDICATED
THAT THEY WERE ESSENTIAL WHAT.
HAS THE WORK THAT I'M I'M GOING
TO ASSUME BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T
WANT TO ASSUME THAT.
THERE THAT BASICALLY THESE CREWS
HAVE BEEN A RELIABLE. AND GOD I
MEAN IN OTHER WORDS WOULDN'T.
IT WOULD SEEM COUNTERINTUITIVE
IF THERE WERE LOTS OF PROBLEMS
THAT CALIFORNIA HAD EXPERIENCED
WITH USING UP TO FOUR THOUSAND.
INCARCERATED FOLKS ON THE LINE
LIKE THIS.
THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SHRUNK IT
OR NOT DONE SO BUT SINCE WE HAVE
BEEN NOW FOR MANY YEARS. IS THE
EXPERIENCE SO FAR.
.
YEAH BASICALLY POSITIVE WERE.
THIS PROGRAM IN THIS
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DEPARTMENT
CORRECTIONS HAS BEEN IN PLACE
SINCE NINETEEN FORTY SIX AND IT
HAS BEEN WHAT MAY HAVE EBBED AND
FLOWED IN. A CHANGED OVER THE
YEARS IT HAS BEEN A VERY
SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM NOT JUST FOR
WHAT IT PROVIDES. FOR PUBLIC
SAFETY AND THIS WORK FORCE BUT
ALSO FOR. ASSISTING AGAIN WITH
THE REHABILITATION COMPONENT AND
DEATH YES DOCTORS EITHER HAVE
NOT BEEN CHALLENGES OVER TIME.
BUT BY AND LARGE THIS IS BEEN
EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL IT'S BEEN
CALLED. THE THE THE PRISON
WITHOUT WALLS IN MANY MANY WRITE
UPS OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE HE'S
CONSERVATION CAMPS ARE JUST ALL
OVER TE STATE. THEY'RE PART OF
COMMUNITIES AND NOT JUST
THREATENED TO CLOSE ONE OF THESE
CONSERVATION CAMPS. AND FIND OUT
THE LOCAL REACTION ABOUT WHAT
ALL OF THESE BUT THEY DO EVERY
DAY THEY'RE NOT JUST RESPONDING
TO FIRES BUT THEY'RE IN
COMMUNITIES EVERY DAY.
PERFORMING ALL KINDS OF WORK TO
SUPPORT THE STATES RESOURCE
MANAGEMENT MISSION BUT ALSO JUST
PUBLIC SERVICE WORKING WITH
CALTRANS ALONG HIGHWAYS WORKING
OR STATE PARKS. IT'S A VERY KEY
PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN VERY WELL
RECEIVED ACROSS THE STATE. THANK
YOU.
IN A ROCK.
A COMMENSURATE SORT OF FOLLOW UP
ON SOME QUESTIONS THAT.
OR WITH A QUESTION ON SOME
COMMENTS THAT TERM.
MY COLLEAGUE SENATOR MCGUIRE
MADE HAVING TO DO WITH THE.
FORMER AGENCY NOTIFICATION
SYSTEM SO TO MISTER DIRECTOR I
ASSUME THIS WOULD GO TO YOU AND.
HAS A RECALL LISTENING TO A ME
SPOKE ABOUT A SITUATION WHERE
ONE OR MORE VICTIMS.
IS QUITE PERSONAL TO HIM. WERE
UNABLE TO RECEIVE NOTIFICATION
BECAUSE PHONE LINES WERE DOWN
AND THEY DIDN'T MISS STEPHEN ON
THE TV OR THE RADIO OR WHATEVER.
AND THEN I I REMEMBER IN YOUR
ANSWER IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY
YOU SEEM TO SUGGEST THAT
COUNTIES.
CALIFORNIA HAVE SORT OF A LOCAL
OPTION IN TERMS OF HOW THEY
HANDLE. NOTIFICATION WHETHER
THEY REQUIRE.
RESIDENTS TO RECEIVE IT OR
WHETHER RESIDENTS HAVE TO OPT IN
TO SOME SORT OF SYSTEM THAT THAT
MAY BE A COUNTY HAS OR DOESN'T
HAVE SO. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS
THIS.
TO PROMOTE SOME DISCUSSION.
IS THE SYSTEM SUFFICIENTLY
COORDINATED BETWEEN THE STATE
AND AND THE LOCALS INCLUDING THE
COUNTY SO IF YOU. SITTINGIN THE
COMMAND POST DETERMINED THAT. A
WARNING IS REQUIRED LET'S SAY IN
FOUR COUNTIES IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA TO BRING IT HOME TO
ME. YOU CAN REQUIRE THE COUNTY'S
TWO MEASLY AND. EFFECTIVELY
REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY
RESIDENTS.
USING WHATEVER TELEPHONE RADIO
TV OR ANY OTHER MEANS IN ORDER
TO EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE.
.
A WARNING.
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT STATE
RESOURCES NOT SOME FEDERAL.
MANDATE IS THAT A FAIR QUESTION.
WELL.
AND IF THE ANSWER IS NO OR WE
DON'T KNOW THEN I GUESS THE
FOLLOWING QUESTION TO COUNT TO
MAKE A COMPOUND QUESTION OF
THIS.
IS WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT
BECAUSE IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT
THAT'S SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO BE
FIXING HERE. AND NOW I WOULD SAY
I WOULD JUST SIT THEM IN THE
ANSWER TO THIS S THAT
HISTORICALLY. THE RESPONSIBILITY
FOR ISSUING.
A LOCAL. EMERGENCY MESSAGE TO
THEIR COMMUNITY RESTS WITH LOCAL
AUTHORITY.
NOW THERE COULD BE A
COORDINATION DISCUSSION
COMMUNICATION. BETWEEN MY OFFICE
AND THE LOCAL AUTHORITY. OUT WE
DID THIS WHEN WE ISSUED THAT
EIGHT COUNTY.
I NOTICE.
DURING THE HEIGHT. FIRE THREAT
PERIOD IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WE
ALL THE CONFERENCE CALL WITH
THOSE EIGHT COUNTIES WE TOLD
THEM WHAT WE WANTED TO DO.
WE COURTNEY THAT BUT THAT'S NOT
WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE
CENTER MAGUIRE STAR MUCH OUR
WIRES TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW.
THESE EVENTS ARE ARE HAPPENING
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND.
THIS LOW NO LOCAL AUTHORITY
SHOULD REALLY HAVE TO COME TO
THE STATE TO GET. EITHER
GUIDANCE OR DIRECTION OUGHT TO
GIVE UP ON THE LOWER WARNING AT
THE AT THAT LEVEL.
BUT YOU SEE THE PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN IT COMES TO
MONEY.
OR WHEN THE SITUATION EXCEEDS
THE ABILITY OF THE LOCALS.
TO FIX CONTROL MAINTAIN PROTECT.
BECOMES OUR PROBLEM SO WOULD
SEEM TO ME FROM A STATE
STANDPOINT SINCE ULTIMATELY IT
BECOMES OUR PROBLEM UNLESS IT'S
FAIRLY. MINOR.
WE SHOULD EXERCISE OUR ABILITY
HERE TO SAY IN CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES.
BECAUSE YOU'RE MONITORING IT AND
I'VE SEEN THE COMMAND CENTER. IN
CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WE'RE
GOING TO EXERCISE OUR AUTHORITY
IS A STATE AND WE DO A PRETTY
WELL APPEAR ON A LOT OF OTHER
ISSUES NOT QUITE SO SIGNIFICANT.
WE'RE GOING TO EXERCISE
AUTHORITY IS A STATE TO DIRECT
WHATEVER.
WE HAD TO HAVE THAT AUTHORITY
CENTER AND AND ND BUT YOU KNOW
IT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE.
SITUATIONS WHERE YOU TAKE IT ON
A CASE BY CASE BASIS I THINK THE
CHALLENGES. IS THAT THERE HAS
NOT BEEN A SET OF.
STANDARDS OR GUIDELINES AND
EXPECTATIONS PROVIDED BY THE
STATE TO LOCAL AUTHORITIES AS TO
WHEN AND HOW AND THE
EXPECTATIONS OF WHEN AND HOW
IT'S BEEN LEFT UP THE LOCAL
AUTHORITY. FOR THEM TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT. HOW THEY'RE THEY'RE
GONNA DO IT WHAT MOTIVE? OF
COMMUNICATIONS THEY'RE GOING TO
USE AND AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING
TO DO THAT I THINK THAT'S WHERE
THE GAP EXISTS. AND WHERE WE'RE
WORKING ON NOW TO BUILD IN SOME.
STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES THAT WE
CAN ENSURE THAT LOCAL AUTHORITY
WELL HOW THOSE TOOLS. TO BE ABLE
TO TRACE THE ENTERPRISE THAT
ACROSS THE STATE I SAY THAT
KNOWING THAT EVERY PARTICULAR
LOCAL JURISDICTION IS GOING TO
HAVE THEIR OWN.
SIGNATURE ISSUES THAT THEY'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH BUT
WE BELIEVE THAT BY PROVIDING
THEM SOME. BETTER GUIDELINES AND
AND STANDARDS TO TO TO UTILIZE
OUT WILL WILL INCREASE THE
ABILITY FOR THEM TO GET THOSE
MESSAGES OUT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S DIFFERENT IN EVERY COUNTY
IN THE STATE IS DIFFERENT AND I
DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS
BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ULTIMATELY A
SUBCOMMITTEE ISSUE BUT. MAYBE
IT'S MY SUBCOMMITTEE I DON'T
KNOW BUT.
BOOK BUT WHY IS THAT WHY DON'T
IN SOMETHING THAT IS STILL HIS
POTENTIALLY SO CATASTROPHIC.
NOT ONLY TO THE COUNTIES FOR
EXAMPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED IF WE
HAVE A MAJOR EARTHQUAKE IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA MULTIPLE
COUNTIES.
BORN IMPACT ANYBODY APPEAR BUT
DOWN THERE IS SIGNIFICANT AND
THAT THAT SIGNIFICANCE IN THAT
CATASTROPHE THEN BECOMES. A
PROBLEM HERE IN THE BUILDING.
BOTH ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND UP
HERE THAT WE THEN HAVE TO DEAL
WITH SO WHY SHOULDN'T WE. SAY
YOU KNOW WE LIKE LOCAL CONTROL
BUT IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. WERE
TAKING OVER AND AND WE'RE GOING
TO DIRECT THE NOTIFICATION WE'RE
GOING TO SEND THE MESSAGES TO
THE RADIO STATIONS IN THE TV'S
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STATIONS
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET OUT
NOW. AND THAT THEY GET OUT TO
ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THEM AND
WE'RE NOT GOING TO.
WE'RE NOT GONNA LISTEN TO A
COUNTY THAT SAYS YOU KNOW I'M
GOING TO HAVE AN OPT IN SOME OF
MY RESIDENTS DON'T WANT TO HEAR
FROM ME WELL YOU KNOW WHAT
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM US AND
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM US
RIGHT NOW. ON AN ISSUE THAT IS
THIS SIGNIFICANT SO. WHY THAT'S
NOT REALLY A QUESTION SO LET ME
ASK IT WHY DON'T WE? DO THAT IS
THERE SOMETHING IN THE LAW THAT
NEEDS TO BE CHANGED AS IT.
IS IT JUST THE WAY WE DO
BUSINESS WE WAIT FOR A DISASTER
TO HAPPEN AND THEN. WELL I I
DON'T I DON'T.
I THINK IT'S THAT LINEAR.
IT'S NOT JUST THE DID YOU KNOW
A DISASTER COULD HAPPEN THE
STATE COULD GIVE AN ALERT. ALL
DISASTERS YOUR LOCAL EVENTS ARE
HAPPENING VERY FAST AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL.
THE STATE EVEN IF THE STATE
OPERATION CENTER WHILE WE HAVE
SITUATIONAL AWARENESS WE DO NOT
HAVE THAT SITUATION AWARENESS
THAT'S HAPPENING. IMMEDIATELY ON
THE GROUND THAT IS BEST LEFT
WITH THE SHERIFF THE FIRE
COMMANDERS THE PEOPLE ON THE
GROUND MAKING THE DETERMINATION
BC THE FIRE WHERE THE VACUUM
WISHES TO TAKE PLACE. AND THEY
PUSH THAT MESSAGE OUT TO THE
COMMUNITY NOW THAT SAID. IN A
BIG EVENT LIKE WE SAW IN THE
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
OF FIRES THIS LAST.
A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
KEEP THEM ON AND I LOOKED AT
THAT ALL EIGHT COUNTIES AND
WHILE LOCAL AUTHORITIES WERE
STILL PUSHING OUT MESSAGING WE
OPTED TO PUT A STATEWIDE ALERT
OUT ALL THOSE EIGHT COUNTIES. TO
REINFORCE INDIVIDUALS TO LOOK AT
THEIR PHONE TO GET THIS MESSAGE
THE MESSAGE SAID. HIGH FIRE
ALERT.
BE AWARE.
REFER TO YOUR LOCAL AUTHORITY WE
PUSHED IT BACK DOWN TO THE LOCAL
AUTHORITY THAT'S THE BEST USE OF
HOW THE STATE. DOES THAT NOW IF
THERE IS A BIO HAZARD. MAJOR
TERRORISM INCIDENT OR POSSIBLY
GOD FORBID SOME SORT OF A
NUCLEAR THREAT.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUSH
MESSAGES OUT. JUST LIKE WE DID
HAVE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO TO
EVERY CITIZEN IN CALIFORNIA AND
THAT'S THE DECISION MAKING PEACE
THAT'S WHAT THE METHOD PIECE WE
WE YOU SPOKE TO THE METHOD PIECE
EARLIER WHICH IS BECAUSE SOME
COUNTIES UP IN SOME COUNTIES UP
TO OUT. THE METHOD PEACE DOES
NOT HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY LEFT.
TO THE LOCALS BECAUSE THAT
IMPACTS ULTIMATELY US SO
DECISION MAKING IS ON THE GROUND
TO PEOPLE WHO CAN BEST DETERMINE
WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND NOT
HAPPEN BUT WHY DO WE NEED TO
LEAVE THE MATH IT.
TO THE LOCALS I THINK THE METHOD
NEEDS TO BE. AGAIN CLARIFIED
STANDARDIZED THE METHOD IT CAN
BE UTILIZED THIS WIRELESS
EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM AREA
REGARDLESS OF WHAT I SEE THIS IN
ONE STOP THEIR OPT OUT. THEY'RE
GOING TO GET THE MESSAGE WHAT WE
NEED TO DO IS ENSURE THAT ALL
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE THAT
TOOL.
AND KNOW THAT THE EXPECTATION IS
TO USE THAT TOOL. ARM TO PUSH
OUT MESSAGES TO EVERYBODY WHAT
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED
TO DEAL WITH HERE IN THE
LEGISLATURE UNDER THE DOME DO WE
NEED. IS IT MONEY IS ITS
STATUTORY AUTHORITY.
WHAT A I MEAN I'M JUST CURIOUS
DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY OF
THOSE I MEAN IT'S A FEDERAL
PROGRAM AND?
I MEAN OUTSIDE OF OF PRETTY
GOOD IN IN UNDER THE EMERGENCY
SERVICE ACT REQUIRING EVERY
LOCAL AUTHORITY TO USE THAT
SYSTEM AND GO SEE.
BUT THE QUESTION IS WHY YOU
KNOW I THINK THAT GIVEN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH LOCAL
AUTHORITY IT ENDS AND. YOU DON'T
MANY MANY TO USE IT NOW. THEY'RE
RELUCTANT TO USE IT FULLY
BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE IT IS
EVOLVED ENOUGH.
AND IT IS FOCUSED ENOUGH BUT WE
WERE WORKING WITH THE FCC.
TO BUILD IN THAT THE CHARACTER
NUMBERS THAT ARE NEEDED AND
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FEMA TO
ENHANCE THE SOFTWARE IN IN THAT
CENTRAL CORE UNIT. IT PUSHES
THESE MESSAGES OUT. OUT THROUGH
THEIR SYSTEM SO THERE'S SOME
SOME MORE WORK TO DO IN THIS
AREA. BUT.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S ACTUALLY
WE COULD YOU KNOW REQUIRING
LOCAL GOVERNMENT I MEAN IT COULD
BE BY TWELVE.
I'LL MAKE THIS MY LAST BECAUSE I
DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS BUT I
DO THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE DECISION MAKING
AUTHORITY IN THE CAPABILITY. AND
THE METHOD AND I THINK IT'S
INCUMBENT ON US TO REQUIRE
LOCALS. TO SIGN UP FOR IT.
AND HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF
FLIPPING THE SWITCH AND SENDING
THE NOTIFICATION AND AFTER SOME
COUNTIES AND HAVEN'T DONE THAT
THEN SHAME ON THEM.
THE ACTUAL DECISION TO FLIP THE
SWITCH I AGREED WITH YOU IN MOST
CASES IS BECAUSE BEST EXECUTED
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL EXCEPT IN THE
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU REFERENCE
TO ME WE COULD CONTINUE TO HAVE
A. CONVERSATION LATER ON IT
ABSOLUTELY I'D ALSO LIKE TO
FOLLOW UP ON THE.
PATHWAYS THE RESILIENCY AND
RELIABILITY.
THE PIPELINE TO MOVE THESE
MESSAGES. NEED IS IMPORTANT WE
TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT FIBER LINES AND
AND AND AND AND INFRASTRUCTURE
IS NOT OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT
THIS IS OWNED BY THE PRIVATE
SECTOR AND. IT HAD MAJOR
PROBLEMS DURING THE FIRES IN THE
NORTH WHERE IT WENT DOWN. THERE
BY A PRECLUDING ANY ANY
COMMUNICATIONS THAT TO HAPPEN
CELL TOWERS WENT DOWN FIBER
LINES BURNED UP. THESE ARE
ISSUES WE NEED TO ALSO CONSIDER
AND LOOK TOREBUILDING AND
RESILIENCY IN THE SYSTEMS AND
MAKING MAKING SURE THAT THEY GET
TO A PUBLIC SAFETY GREAT
CAPABILITY FOR DEPENDING UPON
THEM. BUT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL
OVER THEM. ALL WE NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING
EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE SURE
THOSE SYSTEMS WORK.
ONE MORE MANAGER IF I MAY THEN
IS THERE A WORKING GROUP THAT
THE GOVERNOR THE ADMINISTRATION
HAS FORM THAT IS WORKING AS WE
SPEAK TO WORK THROUGH THESE
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY. IF YOU CAN'T
PUSH A CELLPHONE MESSAGE OUT
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A
CELLPHONE TOWER. IS THERE SOME
ALTERNATIVES SUCH AS RADIO AND
TV AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS
THAT I REMEMBER WAS TALKING
ABOUT.
ABSOLUTELY THERE'S OUR PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION
BEEN WORKING.
ART OR IN A WORK ON BUILDING
OUT OUR NEXT GEN NINE ONE ONE
AND WE'RE WORKING ON AND
ENHANCING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE
MESSAGE AND WE'RE WORKING WITH
OUR. TELECOM PARTNERS.
AS MUCH AS WE CAN UNDER THE
GUIDELINES OF THE LAW OUGHT TO
BE ABLE TO ASK THEM TO INSURE IT
YOU KNOW MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE
DOING THEIR PART OF THE JOB AS
WELL.
FOLLOW UP ANSWER ROSS POINT
WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME ON THAT
WORK AND HOW WILL THE
LEGISLATURE. BE INFORMED IN
TERMS OF YOUR OUTCOME BUT
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT MOVIE
PARTS THIS RIGHT SO WE HAVE. YOU
KNOW RIGHT NOW IN THE IN THE. IN
THE IN THAT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET
THERE'S ALL WHOLE PIECE ABOUT
THE SET NOW.
WHICH IS THE FUNDING STREAM TO
BE ABLE TO ENHANCE OUR NINE ONE
ONE SYSTEM OR NOT I WENT SYSTEM
AGAIN MUCH LIKE WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT HERE IS FIFTY YEARS OLD
AND IT'S IT DOES NOT MEAN THE
NEED. EVERYONE IS GOING OFF OF
THE LAND LINES IT ON THE CELL
PHONE BUT IT'S NOT JUST CELL
PHONES. ITS ON STAR IT'S.
LIFE ALERTED YOU COULD ACTUALLY
GO THE REFRIGERATOR NOW AND DIAL
NINE ONE ONE AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE
DON'T RUN OUT OF MILK OR
SOMETHING DOWN I WOULD WANT. SO
ALL OF THAT'S COMING INTO OUR
SYSTEMS AND WE WERE WE TO THE
SYSTEM IS OVERWHELMED SO THAT'S
THE FIRST PIECE AND WE'RE
WORKING WITH. IT WE IN THE
LEGISLATURE TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS
TO ENHANCE THAT. THAT FUND TO
ENSURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE
FUNDING TO KEEP THAT SYSTEM
OPERATIONAL THAT ALSO PLAYS
INTO.
ARE THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMUNICATIONS BACKBONE WHICH IS
UP AND DOWN THE STATE FIFTY YEAR
OLD SYSTEM. OF SOME OF IT IS
BUILT UP UPDATED SOME OF IT'S
BEEN HELL TOGETHER WITH DUCT
TAPE AND BALING WIRE SO WE'RE
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT
SAFETY. SPECTRUM THAT'S
DEDICATED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY OF
WE WERE WORKING WITH THEM
EIGHTEEN T. AND.
AND THE FIRST THAT BORE WHICH
IS THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
INITIATIVE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO
BUILD THAT CAPACITY IN
CALIFORNIA THAT'S A MULTI YEAR
PROJECT. OPETH BUT ALL THESE ARE
OUR TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES ON TO
BE ABLE TO ADDRESS BUT IT COMES
RIGHT DOWN TO ALSO THE OWNERS
OF.
SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THE
CELL TOWERS YOU NEED TO HAVE
GOOD DEFENSIBLE SPACE AROUND
THEM YOU NEED TO HAVE A BATTERY
BACKUP. A YOU NEED TO HAVE A
GENERATOR BACK UP.
EXACTLY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS
THOSE AND WE'VE BEEN WE ARE
ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THEM THE
TELECOM INDUSTRY NOW ON THAT.
SENATOR NELSON LET ME JUST PIPE
IN ON THAT ONE BECAUSE IT'S
SOMETHING I'VE APPRECIATED FOR
MAKING ANTI WORKING WITH US THEY
USED TO TRAGEDY WE HAD IT
RATCHET TO AIM UP.
BUT WITH THE SALT ON THE SCHOOL
IN A NUMBER OF PEOPLE BUT THEY
THEY HAVE ANY INTERNET
CONNECTIVITY OUT THERE AND THE.
ATP IS WORKING WITH US ON THAT
IT IS A STATEWIDE ISSUE AND AND
AND UP AND UP CHALLENGE FOR US.
BUT YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE
A NUMBER OF YEARS. BUT I AM
ENCOURAGED IT WE'RE MOVING IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND THAT
WILL BE HELPFUL.
I THINK THAT IF I MAY PLEASE
FIRST SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE
AS PART OF OUR OUR WHOLE PUBLIC
SAFETY A CONTINUITY OF
GOVERNMENT. OF RESPONSIBILITIES.
WE WORK WITH HELICOPTER CARTEL
BECAUSE WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH
THEM THEY MOVE IN.
WHEN WE WHEN WE TAKE WHEN WE
CAST THEM WHAT THEY CALL CAL
CELLULAR ON WHEELS THEY MOVE IN
INTERNET CAPABLE.
A UNITS TO BE ABLE TO PLACE IN
AN AREA WHERE WHERE THERE MAY BE
LIMITED INTERNET CAPABILITY BUT
THOSE ARE ALWAYS. IN A REACTION
TO AN EVENT AND SO WE DO NEED TO
WORK ON MAKING SURE THAT OUR
RULE COMMUNITIES IN AND OTHER
AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE. THAT
CAPABILITY AS ROBUST YET IS
NECESSARY WE WE WE NEED TO GET
THERE BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT
REPUBLIC SAVING ATTENTION TO IT.
THANK YOU. I THINK WHAT THE.
OUR JEANNE INTEREST EXPRESSED BY
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE THAT
THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS WILL
CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED TO
UNFOCUSED. ON. PARTICULAR MOST
SYSTEMS THAT ARE OVER FIFTY
BECAUSE ALL THINGS OVER FIFTY
SENATOR NELSON THE LITTLE HELP.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
THAT.
AT. LEVI'S.
AT THE FIGURE YOU HAVE TO DIE
CANCER GOT TO TEASE MY VICE
CHAIR.
TWO AND A HALF HOURS LATER
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. FOR YOUR DATA AND
YOUR PATIENCE WITH US AND YOUR
COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSES TO ALL
OUR QUESTIONS WE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
AS THE NEXT PANEL JOINS US ON
THE SUGGEST THAT ALL OF US STAND
AND STRETCH. BOUGHT HAVE A.
RECESS BREAK BRIEFLY. I'M GOING
TO INVITE THE NEXT PANEL THE
LOCAL PERSPECTIVE TO JOIN US.
WILDFIRE IMPACTS ON LOCAL
COMMUNITIES PERFECT SEGUE GIVEN
THE CONVERSE THE LAST SEVERAL
QUESTIONS.
GOING TO REMIND THE NEXT PANEL
THAT THEY WERE.
GIVEN THE CHARGE BY STAFF TO
TRY TO LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO.
FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES.
THAT WILL ALLOW TIME FOR ALL OF
MY INQUISITIVE COLLEAGUES TO ASK
YOU. AN HOUR'S WORTH OF
QUESTIONS EACH.
YOU CAN MOVE YOUR PRESENTATION
WE'LL GET TO ALL OF IT IN OUR
QUEUE IN A. CELL MEMBERS ARE
STRETCHING CENTER NELSON THAT'S
MEAN YOU TO WE HAVE TO STRETCH.
WE GOT TO GET THE BLOOD FLOWING.
AND THE LAST MEMBERS TO COME ON
TO THE TABLE WERE GOING TO
CONTINUE AND ROLL RIGHT THROUGH.
YEAH YEAH GOT. EXCELLENT.
RIGHT.
YEAH.
I UNDERSTAND OF THE PALACE AFTER
WE ALTER OUR ORDER THERE AND WE
WILL CERTAINLY HONOR THAT. WE
WILL HEAR COLLEAGUES IN THIS
ORDER FROM CHIEF GEITHNER CHIEF
LORENZEN.
HERE ROBERT ROBERTSON AND
SUPERVISOR HANDLE.
IF GOD WILL START WITH YOU.
HELLO EVERYONE MY NAME IS TONY
GOZER I'M.
THE FIRE CHIEF THE CITY CENTER
AS AN ACTOR THANK EVERYONE FOR
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
SO YEAH WE TEST FIRED A COUPLE
DAYS GOING TO REACH A SYSTEM NOW
WHERE. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME OUR
HERE TO TESTIFY ON ON MOVING
FORWARD AND WHAT WORKS SO QUICK
STORY. ABOUT SANTA ROSA.
OCTOBER EIGHTH THE TUBS FIRE
WHEN IT CAME INTO TOWN IT CAME
IN WITH A VENGEANCE. IN IT TOOK
A LOT OF PROPERTY WITH IT BEFORE
IT EVEN REACH SANTA ROSA. I WILL
TELL YOU THAT.
WE TALKED AND HEARD A LOT ABOUT.
DEFENSIBLE SPACE NEVER THINGS
FROM A CHEAP PEN LAWTON. AND
RECORD GIRL DO TL TELL YOU THE
FOUNTAIN GROVE WAS A FIRE WISE
COMMUNITY. AND AS I TOLD THE
FOUNDER OF RESIDENCE EVERY TIME
WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING. THAT
HELPS YOU IF THERE'S A FIRE THAT
STARTS IN YOUR COMMUNITY IT
ALLOWS IT TO STAY SMALL SO WE
CAN GET ON AND PUT IT OUT. WITH
THE QUICKER WE PUT IT OUT.
THE LESS DAMAGE THERE'S GOING
TO BE TO THE COMMUNITY. ON THE
NIGHT OF OCTOBER EIGHTH. THIS
FAR CAME FROM ANOTHER COUNTY
TWELVE MILES AWAY UNDER SEVERE
WINDS. IN OUR BURN RIGHT THROUGH
SONOMA COUNTY INTO MULTIPLE
POINTS OF SANTA ROSA THERE'S
PROBABLY A FIVE MILE WIDE AMBER
CASTS THAT CAME THROUGH. AND
IMPACTED
MANY MANY BUILDINGS.
I'M SO YOU HEARD OVER JUST JUST
UNDER SIX THOUSAND RESIDENTS. I
WILL TELL YOU IN THOSE RESIDENTS
WE HAD TO PROTECT.
BUILDINGS AND THAT HAD THAT
SPEAKS TO THE THEM AND WE
DO HAVE THE BEST MASTER MUTUAL
AID SYSTEM IN THE STATE WE
ABSOLUTELY DO.
BUT IT'S THE BEST.
GETTING HELP WITHIN TWELVE TO
TWENTY FOUR TO THIRTY SIX HOURS.
TYPES OF FIRES THAT WE'RE
EXPERIENCING THAT WE EXPERIENCE
THAT ANY ONE OF YOU IN YOUR
COMMUNITIES MAY EXPERIENCE WITH
THE RIGHT CONDITIONS. HAPPEN
VERY QUICK AND THERE IS JUST
VERY LITTLE REFLEX TIME TO GET
THE TYPES OF RESOURCES AND TO
MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.
AT LEAST IN OUR CASE THAT NIGHT.
THERE WAS A LOT OF GREAT WORK
THAT WAS DONE AT NIGHT. BUT WE
LOST TWENTY FOUR PEOPLE. ON THE
TOPS FIRE AND IN THE TUBS FIRES
ONE FIRE WE HAD THE ALICE FIRE
NAPA WE HAD THE NUNS FAIRNESS ON
THE VALLEY. THE REDWOOD FIRE I
AND I MET A SINGLE COUNTY. WHERE
PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES SO THERE
WAS THIS WAS A NIGHT THAT THAT
WAS VERY BUSY?
FOR THE STATE. FOR THE MUTUAL
AID SYSTEM AND I WILL TELL YOU
THAT IN AT LEAST THE NUNS THAT
ALICE AND THE TUB STARTED WITHIN
A THIRTY MINUTE PERIOD OF EACH
OTHER AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL
WITHIN THE TOP TEN MOST
DESTRUCTIVE FIRES IN.
CALIFORNIA'S HISTORY SO IT WAS.
VERY DEVASTATING.
THE REASON WHY I BRING THIS UP.
WE HAVE A CHANCE HERE WE'VE
HEARD A LOT ABOUT VEGETATION
MANAGEMENT WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT.
WOW WE DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD TO
HELP THE COMMUNITIES. ALL OF
THAT IS PART OF IT BUILDING
BETTER BUILDINGS IN THESE
WILDLAND AREAS I'M MAKING YOUR
RESIDENCE.
KEEP UP THEIR PROPERTY AS MUCH
AS THEY CAN. THE STATE'S ABILITY
AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO HAVE
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS
AND THINNING AND EVERYTHING
THAT'S APPROPRIATE AS WELL AS
PRESCRIBED BURNING ALL OF IT
PLAYS A PART.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET OUT OF
IT WITH DOING JUST THAT WE NEED
TO PRE POSITION EQUIPMENT.
BEFORE THE BIG ONE HAPPENS AND
THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK
ABOUT TODAY TO ALL OF YOU SO
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. WE NEED
IF WE HAD PRE POSITIONED
EQUIPMENT THAT FIRE MIGHT HAVE
STAYED SMALL AND WE WOULD HAVE
NOT DAMAGED EVERYTHING IN ITS
PATH. BASSETT THAT'S A LARGE
STATEMENT FOR ME TO MAKE RIGHT.
DOESN'T MEAN IT WOULD HAVE
HAPPENED BUT I'M TELLING IF THE
THE PRE POSITIONED EQUIPMENT IN
THE RIGHT SPOT THEY COULD'VE
MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE
BEGINNING. AND EVEN IF IT. IT
WILL THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO STOP
IT WE WOULD HAVE THE EQUIPMENT
TO HELP EVACUATE AND DEFEND
COMMUNITIES. THAT.
THAT WERE JUST DECIMATED HUGE
COST TO THE CITY. IF IT WASN'T
FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND
THE STATE WE PROBABLY BE
BANKRUPT RIGHT NOW. AND IF WE
CAN STOP THAT KIND OF
DEVASTATION JUST ON THE ECONOMIC
FRONT LET ALONE WE'RE GOING TO
BE SEVEN LIVES.
PEOPLE DON'T LOSE EVERYTHING
THAT THEY HAVE.
IN A IN A SHORT WINDOW. SO
DIZZY AND IMPORTANT FOR ME AND I
WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
FIREARMS MOSTLY ALL ABOUT
FIREWORK TALK ABOUT FLOODS.
EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES IN A
WORD ALL RISK TYPE OF OF.
DEAL HEN IT COMES TO OUR MERCY
PREPAREDNESS RIGHT SO.
WE NEED THE ABILITY TO PRE
POSITIONED EQUIPMENT WHEN IT'S
APPROPRIATE BASED ON GOOD
ANALYTICAL INFORMATION SO WE
KNOW WHENEVER WE KNOW THERE'S A
WIND EVENT AND WE KNOW THAT THE
IT'S PREDICTED.
WHERE AND WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO
POSITION RESOURCES THERE IN
ESPECIALLY IN THE HISTORICAL
ERROR IS WITH THE WE KNOW FIRE
BURNS AND BURNS VERY HOT VERY
FAST?
THE HAND THE FIRE WAS DISCUSSED
EARLIER. AND HE PRETTY MUCH
EXACTLY RIGHT IT WAS A THREE
FOUR DAY EVENT IN THE MUTUAL AID
SYSTEM WORKS PERFECT FOR THAT.
OUR VET WAS FOUR HOURS IN MOST
EVERYTHING WAS COMPLETELY BURNED
IN PROBABLY SIX TO EIGHT HOURS.
SO DOES NOT WORK WE WE NEED THE
SYSTEM TO BE MINIMAL MORE
FLEXIBLE WE NEED THE ABILITY TO
HAVE PRE POSITIONED. EQUIPMENT
FOR ALL TYPES FIRES FLOODS.
THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND WITH THAT ALLOWED JUST THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I'LL
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT DEL
TURNOVER RATE CHIEF LORENZEN
THANK YOU WE'LL HOLD QUESTIONS
COLLEAGUES TO THE END OF THE
ENTIRE PANEL. T. THANK YOU THANK
YOU. CHAIR MITCHELL MEMBERS THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE RECORD MARK
LAWRENSON FIRE CHIEF INTER
COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT I
APPRECIATE YOU. INVITING US HERE
TO TESTIFY TODAY AND GET SOME
PERSPECTIVE FROM THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. SIDE.
IN AND THE CONTRAST IS REALLY
GREAT TO AS CHIEF GOSSAMER AND I
SIT HERE AND TESTIFY BEFORE YOU.
YOU KNOW IT'S INTERESTING
TODAY'S MARCH FIRST AND WE ARE
STILL IN FIRE SEASON HIGH FIRE
SEASON AND I LIVE IN LA ALONG
WITH YOU SOON HERE AND I I AM
HOPING WE GET SOME RAIN SAY AND
WE NEVER OFFICIALLY GO OUT A
FIRE SEASON ANYMORE BUT WE'RE
STILL AND. WHEN WHAT WE CONSIDER
OUR HIGH FIRE SEASON. IN ITS
SYSTEM.
IT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT THERE'S
A NEW NORMAL I KNOW THE GOVERNOR
MENTIONED IT TO END CENTER
MCGUIRE MENTION IT AND IT WORKED
AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITY IS
OUR FIRE SEASON IS TWICE WHAT IT
USED TO BE AND THE FIRES ARE SO
MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT.
SO I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU
TODAY SOME PERSPECTIVE FROM.
OUR FIRE THE THOMAS FIRE AND I
THINK THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME
OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU GUYS. TO
LEARN FROM HERE WE CERTAINLY
LEARNED.
AND AT THE THOMAS FIRE STARTED
ON DECEMBER FOURTH.
OF TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN IN IT
IT PROBABLY COULDN'T HAVE
HAPPENED IN A MORE PREPARED
COMMUNITY AND I AND WE TALK
ABOUT PREPARATION AND RESPONSE
IN AT SUCH AN ANGLE PART. AND WE
WERE PREPARED IN A NUMBER OF
WAYS ARE ARE DEFENSIBLE SPACE.
THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE
INVENTOR COUNTY AS ARE PROBABLY
SECOND IN AND WE HAVE A HUNDRED
FOOT MANDATORY CLEARANCE SAID IS
A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIED WITH.
SO IT IT OCCURS IN IN AND AROUND
EVERY STRUCTURE IN THE WILLIE IN
AWHILE AND URBAN INTERFACE WE
HAVE A READY SET GO PROGRAM THE
COMMUNITY'S INCREDIBLY PREPARED.
AND THEN PROBABLY MOST
IMPORTANTLY AND AND CHIEF GUSTER
JUST TALKED ABOUT IT.
HIS WE HAD RESOURCES PRE
POSITIONED. AT EIGHT O'CLOCK IN
THE MORNING ON DECEMBER FOURTH A
FULLY ALMOST TWELVE HOURS BEFORE
THE FIRE STARTED.
AND IT'S IT'S THAT PROACTIVE
STAFFING UP THAT WAS SO HELPFUL
FOR US.
AND WE HAD ACTUALLY STAFFED UP
OUR RADIO STAFFING WAS EIGHTY
SEVEN PERCENT OVER NORMAL. AND.
THAT THAT INCLUDES ENGINES.
IN HAND CREWS HELICOPTERS AND
PROBABLY JUST AS IMPORTANTLY
DISPATCHERS AND I'LL TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BUT.
.
THE WHAT IS SO INTERESTING ABOUT
THIS IS I HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF
SIX CONTRACT COUNTIES THOSE ARE
COUNTIES THAT PROTECT THE S.
ARRAY INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH.
CAL FIRE AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE
THE ABILITY BE REIMBURSED
THROUGH CAL FIRE CAL FIRE PRE
POSITIONS ALL SUMMER ALL WILD
WILDFIRE SEASON LONG. SO WE HAVE
THE ABILITY TO GET REIMBURSED
FOR OUR PICK AT LEAST MOST FOR
PRE POSITIONING COSTS.
THE OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT
AGENCIES DON'T NOW I KNOW IN MY
COMMUNITY IS I'M PROBABLY THE
THE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN AFFORD
TO DO IT. AS IS THE CASE
PROBABLY THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
SO WE'RE HAMSTRUNG BY THIS
INABILITY TO PRE POSITION JUST
FROM A PURE LACK OF FINANCIAL
RESOURCES.
SO WE ARE FORTUNATE IN AND WE
DIDN'T JUST STAFF UP ENGINES WE
STAFF THE DISPATCHERS AND AS
CHIEF GUSTER TALKED ABOUT WE
ALSO RECOGNIZED IN OUR. SYSTEM
WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH OUR
ORDERING SYSTEM IT'S COME UP
BEFORE IT ABOUT IT IN IN PRIOR
TESTIMONIES. THERE ARE CHOKE
POINTS THAT ARE THERE PART OF IT
IS INADEQUATELY STAFFED DISPATCH
CENTERS ESPECIALLY FOR YOU HOW
CATASTROPHIC EVENTS FOR US WE
HAPPEN TO HAVE ADDITIONAL
STAFFING IN IN A SHIFT CHANGE
THAT OCCURRED. JUST AFTER THE
FIRE SO WE WERE DOUBLE STAFF SO.
WE WERE ABLE TO PLACE TIMELY
ORDERS BUT.
WE STILL RECOGNIZE THAT THE
SYSTEM IS SLOW DURING THE FIRST
TWENTY FOUR HOURS.
THE SYSTEM IS NOT VERY EFFECTIVE
IN GETTING US RESOURCES TIMELY.
AFTER TWENTY FOUR HOURS IT'S
IT'S PRETTY GOODNESS IS THE ROSS
SYSTEM AS WELL AS OUR ORDERING
SYSTEM. SO WHAT WE DO INSTEAD
AND AND UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE
PRETTY WELL PRACTICE IN VENTURA
COUNTY AS WE KNOW. WAYS TO WORK
AROUND THE SYSTEM AND SO WE
PHONE FIRE CHIEF FRIENDS TO OUR
NORTH AND SOUTH AND I. DID JUST
THAT WHICH DEFIES ME FROM LA
COUNTY ENTERPRISES FROM LA CITY
AND PETERSON IN SANTA BARBARA.
AND MARSHALL IN KERN COUNTY AND
I SAID PLEASE WERE ABOUT TO LOSE
HOMES AND YOUR RESOURCES NOW
WILL WORK OUT THIS SYSTEM ISSUES
LATER. AND FORTUNATELY FOR ME
ALSO LOS ANGELES COUNTY IS ALSO
CONTRACT COUNTY AND HAD PRE
POSITIONED RESOURCES AND SENT
THOSE PRE POSITIONED RESOURCES
RIGHT AWAY.
SO THE QUESTION HAS COME UP THAT
OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T STOP THE
FIRE WITH US PRE POSITIONED
RESOURCES AND WHEN YOU HAVE
SIXTY MILE AN HOUR. EAST WINTER
SANTA ANA WINDS YOU'RE NOT GOING
TO STOP THE FIRE BUT.
I WILL TELL YOU. THAT WE DID
MAKE A AN INCREDIBLE DIFFERENCE
WITH THOSE RESOURCES THEY WERE
THERE SO QUICKLY ONE OF OUR
FIRST COMMUNITIES THAT WAS HIT
WAS IN THE WHEELER CANYON AREA
JUST OUTSIDE OF SANTA PAULA. WE
HAD A STRIKE TEAM THAT'S FIVE
ENGINES IN THERE WITHIN THE
FIRST HOUR.
HE AND AT WHAT HAPPENED IS
NORMALLY WHEN WE SEND FIRE
ENGINES TO A FIRE. THE FIRST.
THOUGHT IS TO CONTROL THE
PRINTER AND ACTUALLY PUT THE
FIRE OUT THEN NORMALLY WITH OUR
WIND DRIVEN FIRE SITS TO DEFEND
STRUCTURES IN THIS CASE THEY
ACTUALLY HAD A COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT MISSION THAT WAS
ACTUALLY ACTIVE RESCUES WE HAD.
OUR ONE CIVILIAN FATALITY THAT
HAVE OCCURRED WHEN SHE WAS
TRYING TO EVACUATE SHE CRASHED.
IT ENDED UP BLOCKING ABOUT
FIFTEEN ADDITIONAL CARS IN THERE
FORTUNATELY THANK GOODNESS WE
HAD FIVE ENGINES IN THERE. WHAT
THEY DID IS THEY RESPONDED DOWN
THERE THAT THERE IS ZERO
VISIBILITY?
I THINK THAT EVERYBODY OUT OF
THEIR CARS IN AND IT WAS KIND OF
A. ON THINGS YOU SEE WITH
KINDERGARTNERS WOULD PULL THE
ROPE OUT HAD EVERYBODY GRAB THE
ROPE AND LEAD THEM TO SAFETY IN
THE PAST YEAR.
WITHOUT THESE RESOURCES THAT WE
HAVE PROACTIVELY STOOD UP.
MY GUESS IS THAT A NUMBER OF
THESE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE
PERISHED.
SO WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY
WHETHER IT'S.
HOLDING FIRES SMALL WHICH OFTEN
TIMES IS THE CASE WITH PRE
POSITIONED RESOURCES WE ALSO
KNOW THAT. IN EVENTS LIKE THIS
WHERE WE HAVE CATASTROPHIC
WILDFIRES WITHOUT A DOUBT WE
SAVE LIVES AND PROPERTY IN NO IN
THIS CASE WE DID SAVE LIVES.
AND THEN. I WILL. ONE MORE THING
JUST TO POINT OUT IS THAT AS
CHIEF CUSTER SAID. THIS PRE
POSITIONING SAW RESTS ON THE
NIGHT BEFORE THE MONEY SEE NO
MUD FLOWS WE ACTUALLY STOOD UP
AND PRE POSITIONED. URBAN SEARCH
AND RESCUE TEAMS SWIFT WATER
TEAMS AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT. THAT
WAS FOR OUR COUNTY AND THEY DID
IT AS WELL IN SANTA BARBARA
COUNTY AND SO WHEN MUNNA SETO
SLID. OUR RESOURCES WERE ABLE TO
QUICKLY AND NIMBLY GO RIGHT
AFTER SANDBAR AGAIN WE. WE
BYPASS THE SYSTEM WE MADE PHONE
CALLS TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENED
AND THEN WE OT THINGS PLACE
INTO THE SYSTEM LATER SO. THIS
IS INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE THERE
ARE SOLUTIONS OUT THERE THAT
WILL HELP US DO IT IT'S A
COMBINED EFFORT AND AGAIN WE ARE
VERY PROACTIVE ACTIVELY.
.
I'LL CALL IT FORCED MANAGERS
THAT WE HAVE A CHAPARRAL FORCED
RATHER THAN A AT A TIMBER FORCE
BUT WE ACTIVELY MANAGER
LAMBERTUS BIG PRESCRIBE FIRES
AND AND ALSO. HAVE AN INCREDIBLE
DEFENSIBLE SPACE PROGRAM THANK
YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH HERE.
THANKS VERY MUCH JOHN ROBERTS IN
NAPA COUNTY SHERIFF THANK YOU
MEMBERS.
THANKS FOR GIVING LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT A CHANCE TO COME AND
SPEAK BEFORE YOU YOU'VE HEARD A
LOT OF DATA AND YOU'VE HEARD A
LOT OF THINGS AND I'M CERTAINLY
NOT GOING TO RESTATE THOSE
THINGS. FOR YOU BUT NAPA COUNTY
IS NO STRANGER TO DISASTERS.
WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS FIRES AND
WE'VE ASSISTED OTHER COUNTIES
WITH WITH THEIR FIRES.
ALSO FLOODING.
AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF
EARTHQUAKES.
WE HAVE A FANTASTIC
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND
I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S BASED
ON MORE THAN A HANDSHAKE. AND.
THOSE RELATIONSHIPS HAVE BEEN
BUILT OVER THE YEARS AND THAT'S
WHAT.
THAT'S WHAT SAVES A SMALL
COMMUNITY IN RESPONSE.
IT'S THOSE RELATIONSHIPS THAT
YOU HAVE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.
AND IT'S A RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU
HAVE WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES AND
ALSO THE COMMUNITY.
AND.
SO ON THE NIGHT OF OCTOBER
EIGHTH.
WE WERE WE WERE HIT BY A
CATASTROPHIC FIRE MEANT THAT
WE'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE
IN OUR LIVES. BUT EMERGENCY
RESPONSE AT THE DIRECTION OF CAL
FIRE TELLING US WHAT AREAS TO
EVACUATE WHAT AREAS TO SECURE
WHAT ROADS TO CLOSE.
WE DID THOSE WITH LIMITED
RESOURCES BUT I CAN TELL YOU
THAT THROUGH THOSE RELATIONSHIPS
WE HAD OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES
OF SOLANO SYNDROME EVEN CINEMA
CAME TO IT ASSISTANCE IN THE
INITIAL STAGES THE US. AND
CONTRAPOSITIVE RESPONDED WITHIN
FIFTEEN MINUTES TO HELP US OUT
IT THOSE WERE JUST THE PEOPLE
THAT WERE AT WORK ON THE GROUND.
WE WERE EVENTUALLY OF FROM
TWELVE TO SIXTEEN HOURS LATER
WORKING THROUGH THE STATE OFFICE
OF EMERGENCY SERVICES WE WERE
ABLE TO GET THIRTY EIGHT
AGENCIES LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES TO COME AND HELP US.
MAINLY SAN MATEO COUNTY ALAMEDA
COUNTY FROM FAR AWAY IS
MODERATE.
BUT THEY CAME IN THEY WORK
TWELVE HOUR SHIFTS FOURTEEN HOUR
SHIFTS WHILE WE HAD PEOPLE THAT
WERE GOING ON FOR SEVENTY TWO
HOURS.
IT WAS ALL HANDS ON DECK AND WE
WERE ABLE IN NAPA COUNTY TO PUT
A HUNDRED AND FORTY ONE PEACE
OFFICERS OUT ON THE.
ON THE STREETS. PER SHIFT WHICH
WAS FANTASTIC FOR US.
WE ALSO WORKING WITH THE STATE
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AT
THE CALIFORNIA NATIONAL GUARD
ASSISTANCE WHICH WAS A GREAT
ASSET AND AT THE FIRST TIME.
THAT I'VE EVER.
FOR THEM USED EXCEPT FOR THAT
DAMN THE DAM INCIDENT BUT.
THEY WERE GREAT ASSET AND WE
HAD FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY
FIVE MEMBERS OF THAT AS AS OUR
SITUATION. STEADIED WE WERE ABLE
TO RELEASE THOSE.
NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS OVER TO.
SONOMA COUNTY WHICH I BELIEVE
WAS A PRETTY GOOD ASSET FOR
THEM.
ANYWAY WE BEGIN OUR EVACUATIONS
AND I CAN'T DISCOUNT THE THAT
PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH FIRST
RESPONDERS DID SOME GREAT WORK.
THE TRUTH THE TRUTH GREAT WORK
WAS DONE BY THE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS IT WAS DONE BY
NEIGHBORS.
KNOCKING ON DOORS.
ALONG WITH US AND EVACUATING
THE PEOPLE THAT.
NEEDED THE HELP THE MOST AND
THAT IS.
IS THAT THAT'S WHAT WE RELY ON
IN A SMALL COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY
A RURAL AREA. IT'S IT'S KNOWING
YOUR NEIGHBOR AND I TAKING CARE
OF OUR.
.
WE ALSO DID OUR INITIAL NECK SO.
TO IT WHICH IS.
YEAH I KEEP HEARING.
OFTEN GET THROWN UNDER THE BUS
BUT I GOTTA TELL YA FOR US IN IN
A RURAL ENVIRONMENT THINGS IF
YOU CAN GO OUT WITH COMMUNITY
EDUCATION. AND AND I AND.
SELZNICK'S SOUL BASICALLY TO TO
HAVE PEOPLE OFTEN NOT ONLY FOR
BUYERS BUT OBVIOUSLY EARTHQUAKES
ROAD CLOSURES ANY CRIMINAL
OFFENSE.
YOU KNOW STREET SITUATIONS
TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS IT WORKS VERY
WELL ALSO. NAPA COUNTY EVEN
THOUGH WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED
AND FORTY THOUSAND RESIDENTS IS
A SMALL COUNTY EIGHT HUNDRED
SQUARE MILES BUT WE SERVICE
ABOUT THREE POINT FIVE TO FOUR
MILLION VISITORS A YEAR. AND WE
NEED TO GET THAT NEXT MESSAGE
OUT.
IT INTO THOSE INTO THE HANDS OF
VISITORS SO THAT WHEN WE PUT OUT
AN EXTRA MESSAGE THEY'RE
RECEIVING THAT MESSAGE ALSO.
THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM
HAVING TO EVACUATE HOTELS AND
AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND.
SO WE HAD INITIALLY ABOUT
TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND.
EXCELLENT SUBSCRIBERS AND WE
ENDED WITH ABOUT A HUNDRED AND
SEVENTY THOUSAND. US SO MORE
THAN OUR POPULATION.
BUT.
YOU KNOW THAT COUNTS FOR SOME
OF THE VISITORS IN AND THAT
PEOPLE WERE QUICKLY QUICKLY
EVACUATED OUT OF THE COUNTY AND
WE WERE ABLE TO MAINTAIN WITH
ASSISTANCE.
THOSE ROAD CLOSURES AND KEEP
PEOPLE SAFE ND THEN ALSO
PROVIDE SECURITY FOR THE BURNED
OUT AREAS. ARE INCIDENT WENT TO
FOURTEEN DAYS WHICH IS A LOT
LONGER THAN THAN WE NORMALLY
WORK.
BUT.
IT WAS DONE WITH WITH THE HELP
OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.
CAN'T THINK CAL FIRE NOW FOR
MANAGING HELPING US MANAGE IT IT
WE WERE JOINED AT THE HIP.
THE THROUGH THE INCIDENT AND.
WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A
LOT OF GREAT THINGS THROUGH CAL
FIRE AND THROUGH.
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.
.
COMMUNICATIONS ARE ARE ALWAYS
DIFFICULT WE LOST POWER. WE LOST
OUR OUR US ABILITY FOR CELL
PHONES OUR VEHICLES IN OUR CARS
WE HAVE MOBILE DATA COMPUTERS
AND THAT'S HOW WE WE CAN TRACK
OUR VEHICLES AND WE CAN SET UP
PERIMETERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE LOST THE ABILITY TO
COMMUNICATE THROUGH A MOBILE
DATA COMPUTERS AND THAT WE WENT
BACK TO THE JUST VOICE RADIO.
BUT IT WAS TRULY A THE NEW
OWNERS OF A LITTLE AM RADIO
STATION AND OUR TOWN WHERE WE
WENT EVERY HOUR AND PUT OUT
INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC. SO
IT CAME DOWN TO.
IN AM RADIO STATION OF THEIR
TOTAL ELIGIBLE TO US GOOD ALL I
AM RADIO WELL WHEN YOU WHEN YOU
DON'T HAVE POWER IT'S RIGHT AND
YOU DON'T HAVE REDUNDANCY RIGHT.
WHICH IS TWO THINGS THAT WE
REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT RIGHT.
WE ARE.
WE HAD SOME MONTHS.
SOME LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED
AND.
I KNOWTHERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
TALK ABOUT SIRENS AND AND THINGS
LIKE THAT WHICH WILL WORK GREAT
IN A SMALL.
SMALL COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE
STILL USED IN NAPA COUNTY TODAY
N..
IN CALISTOGA INSANELY NOTED TO
CALL THE FAULT FIRE VOLUNTEERS
AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT THE
PEOPLE IN THOSE TOWNS KNOW WITH
THOSE SIRENS ARE. THEY KNOW WHAT
THE THE SOUND IS AGAIN WHEN
YOU'RE DEALING WITH WITH.
VISITORS OR TOURISTS OR YOU'RE
DEALING WITH PEOPLE.
THAT HAVE MAYBE A SECOND HOMER
SOMETHING THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND
WHAT THE SIRENS ARE.
.
SO WORKING WITH US SOLANO COUNTY
CINEMA COUNTY.
.
YOLO LAKE.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE USED
TO HAVE?
SIRENS ARE CARS AT HIGH LOW
SIREN IT'S A EUROPEAN SIRE.
AND IT IS PROHIBITED TO USE USE
FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENTIN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SO WE'RE
HAVING WE'VE HAD ALL OF OUR CARS
RE PROGRAM. WITH THE HIGH LOW
SIRENS. AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO
IS START A PUBLIC INFORMATION
CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN WITH A VOICE
CLIP.
FOR SOUND CLIPS. AND.
WE'RE GONNA REINSTITUTE THAT
ALLOWING US TO MOBILY MOVE OUR
SIREN ACROSS RURAL AREAS.
THROUGH RURAL ROADS WITH THAT
HIGH LOW PITCH AND.
IF WE EDUCATE THOSE PEOPLE OUT
THERE WHAT THAT MEANS IT'LL
BRING THEM TO ALERT AND THAT
SOMETHING'S UP AND THEY NEED TO
PAY ATTENTION.
WE NEED TO GET OUT AND EDUCATE
OUR COMMUNITIES WE'VE GOTTEN
AWAY FROM IT. YOU KNOW WHEN WE
HAVE THE EARTHQUAKE EVERYBODY
DOES YOUR QUICK PREPAREDNESS
KITS AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE'VE WE TRULY HAVE HAVE
STOPPED GOING OUT AND WE'VE
GOTTEN LAZY. EYE AND WE STOPPED
GOING OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND%
AND.
IN EDUCATING THEM IN IN WHAT
THEY NEED TO DO AN EMERGENCY HOW
THEY NEED TO PREPARE FOR IT IN
AND ALSO WHAT TO DO. AND I THINK
THAT OUR BIGGEST ASSET OUR
COMMUNITY MEMBERS THEMSELVES.
AND I I THINK THAT THERE CAN BE
PICKED THE FINGER POINTING ALL
DAY. YOU KNOW HEY THE MESSAGE
DIDN'T GET OUT THERE IT'S
SOMEBODY'S RESPONSIBILITY
WHETHER IT'S THE STATE OR THE
COUNTY LOCAL WHATEVER BUT WHAT
IT COMES DOWN TO IS WE NEED TO
GET BACK TO BEINGA COMMUNITY.
AND.
YOU KNOW WE WE DO WE DO IT
PRETTY WELL IN APA COUNTY. I'D
LIKE TO SAY THAT WE DO IT VERY
WELL BUT THAT THERE'S ALWAYS
ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH CAL FIRE
TO PUT OUT SOME TARGETED.
FIRE MAPS AND WITH EVACUATION
ROUTES ALREADY ON THEM AND THOSE
WILL BE MAILED OUT. TO OUR
RESIDENTS IN THOSE FIRE PRONE
AREAS.
SO CAL FIRES HELPING US OUT
WITH SOME OF THE EXPENSE AND
WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP THE REST
AND WE'RE GONNA GET THOSE THINGS
OUT THERE. SOME OTHER THINGS
THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE
WORKING ON AN EVACUATION TAG I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS BUT
WHEN YOU EVACUATE IN A RURAL
AREA YOU HANG A TAG ON THE ON
THE GATOR. BY A UP. MAILBOX WELL
WE'RE GONNA ROLL THOSE ROLLER
TAG UP AND.
PUT IT WITH A CLIP INSIDE EVERY
MAILBOX AND SO THOSE RESIDENTS
THAT SELF EVACUATE OR LEAVE OR
THEY KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS NOT
THERE FOR THE WEEKEND THEY CAN
SIMPLY PULL THE TAG OUT. AND
CLIP IT TO THEIR MAILBOX SO THAT
LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONDING
AGENCIES FIRE ARE NOT SPENDING
TIME FORCING THEIR WAY THROUGH
GATES OR GOING UP A. HALF MILE
DRIVE WAY TO KNOCK ON AN EMPTY
HOUSE. ENDANGERING FIRST
RESPONDERS SO WE'RE GONNA TRY
THAT WE'RE GONNA GET OUT AND TRY
TO DO A LOT OF.
PUBLIC INFORMATION BUT WHAT IT
COMES BACK TO IS.
THE RELATIONSHIPS AND WORK WITH
YOUR COMMUNITY SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH BEFORE
WE MOVE ON COULD YOU JUST
EDUCATE ME THE DIFF THE HIVE
WILL SIRENS.
OF YOU SEE IN THE EUROPEAN
MOVIES I I.
IT'S THAT THAT ONE BECAUSE DAN
AND THEN MOM GOT SHOES SO I CAN
DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE SEEING
THAT YOUR REAR VIEW MIRROR WHEN
YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE HIGHWAY
GOT IT. I ASSUMED IT WAS SOME
WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE BUT YES
YOU'RE RIGHT BE THE MOVIE BUFF I
AM I RECOGNIZE THAT. THANK YOU
SO MUCH SUPERVISOR.
OKAY JUST FOR THE RECORD I'M
READY AND BUILD ON THE
SUPERVISOR DISTRICT TO TWELVE
THE COUNTY.
WELL I THINK I NEED TO SET THE
STAGE FOR YOU BUT TO ONLY KENNY
WERE SMALL COUNTY WITH THAT
LISTEN FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND
PEOPLE.
OKAY WE OVER SEVENTY PERCENT OF
OUR COUNTY IS OWNED BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE
CENTRAL NATIONAL FOREST. IN SOME
BLM LAND.
SO.
WE. WERE RURAL.
AUGUST SEVENTEENTH TWO THOUSAND
THIRTEEN.
PROBABLY THE WORST DAY OF MY
LIFE I DID KNOW IT.
ARE CALLED TO BE A FIERY CITY I
KNOW I CAN SEE THE POEM.
FIRE GREW.
TWO TWO NIGHTS LATER I DECLARED
A STATE OF EMERGENCY AT THE
EMERGENCY UP CENTER. I WAS
WONDERING WHY WHEN IT SIGNALS A
FAMILY CAMP EVACUATION SENT
PEOPLE THROUGH SOMEBODY BECAUSE
THEY COULDN'T GO THE OTHER
DIRECTION.
WHY THE YOSEMITE DIDN'T REALIZE
WE HAVE A TERRIBLE MESS GOING
ON?
A SET THERE FOR A FEW SECONDS I
SAID MY GOD THE ONLY THE PEOPLE
IS ROOM KNOW. WHAT KIND OF A
MESS WE'VE GOT? I DECLARED A
STATE EMERGENCY RATIFIED BY THE
BOARD DIRECTORS BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS THE NEXT MORNING.
THIS FIRE STARTED IN THE TWELVE
MAKING A RIVER CANYON I GIVE YOU
A CHART BY THE WAY AND THEY HAND
OUT BACK THERE YOU PULL IT OFF
THE INTERNET IT'S A TWENTY
LARGEST FIRES INSTEAD ALIFORNIA.
I'M SORRY TO SAY THEY WERE
NUMBER FOR NOW THANKS TO THE
THOMAS FIRE. BUT IF YOU LOOK
DOWN AND LOOK AT NUMBER SIXTEEN.
THAT TOOK PLACE IN EXACTLY THE
SAME FOOTPRINTTWENTY SIX YEARS
EARLIER.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHY THAT
HAPPENED ON THE SAME FOOT PRINT.
THIS THING GREW BIGGER THAN THAT
FIRE IN TEN DAYS.
WE DECLARED CONTROLLED AFTER
SEVENTY DAYS. FIREFIGHTERS TIME
OUT AT TWENTY ONE DAYS WE DIDN'T
TIME OUT MY DAY STARTED THREE
AM.
IT ENDED BETWEEN TEN THIRTY
ELEVEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT SEVEN
DAYS A WEEK.
.
IT WAS UGLY.
WE BLEW UP MORE THAN FIFTY
THOUSAND ACRES IN A SINGLE DAY
THAT'S HAPPENED AGAIN SINCE BUT
PRIOR TO THAT I DON'T THINK IT
HAD HAPPENED. MY COUNTIES BEEN
IN A CONTINUOUS STATE OF
EMERGENCY SINCE ONE FIRE ONE
ROOM FOR ADDED I THINK WE GOT A
COUPLE WEEKS OFF THEN WE ENTERED
DROUGHT THE WINTER TREE
MORTALITY. AND TRIMMER TELLY
STILL EXISTS IN A DROUGHT.
A. IS LARGELY ENDED NOW I DON'T
THINK WE'VE ENDED IN. AND SHE
WOULD BE ABOUT TWO BECAUSE WE
HAD BE WITHOUT WATER. AND WE HAD
THREE PERIODS LAST YEAR WHERE WE
HAD SUPER STORM DAMAGE WHICH
WERE EXTRICITY TO EMERGENCY AT
ONE TIME WITH THREE GOING ON AT
ONE TIME.
.
FOR A LITTLE KNOWN TO THIS.
I WORRY THAT IT'S LOST ITS SENSE
OF URGENCY BUT ROOM FIRE WAS
UGLY.
GOOD MORNING WHEN OUT INCIDENT
COMMAND IT DREW MEADOWS.
IT WAS AN HOUR FROM MY OFFICE.
BUT WITH PEOPLE THERE WAS
ABSOLUTELY NO COMMUNICATION OF
THEIR.
FOR NINE AND A HALF DAYS.
I WAS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH
SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES FAMILY
MEMBERS AND SENATORS ARE TRYING
TO COMPLETE THEM COMMUNICATE
WITH FEDERAL PEOPLE. CONGRESSMEN
SENATORS US CENTERS AND GOING
DIANNE FEINSTEIN AND I COULDN'T
GET A MESSAGE UP UNTIL I GET
BACK TO CIVILIZATION.
WE GOT A COW IN.
A DAY.
CAN.
I COULD SEND A TEXT MESSAGE BUT
I COULDN'T DO ANYMORE THAN.
BUT WHEN I FORGET TO BUT WE HAD
A SECOND INCIDENT COMMAND UNIT
OVER TWELVE ME COUNTY WE HAD A
COW AND A DAY TO.
A COMPLETE COMMUNICATIONS
COMMUNICATION PROBLEM RIVERSIDE
ONE DIDN'T WORK VERY WELL.
YOU'RE INTERESTED WHY THAT
HAPPENED TALK TO ME LATER I'LL
TELL YOU WHY THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN
IT WILL SURPRISE YOU MAYBE NEED
LEGISLATION FIX THAT PROBLEM.
UP.
I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT KILL
FIRE.
AND I CAN'T SEE NOTEBOOK HELLO
YES ACTUALLY CAN'T SAY ENOUGH
ABOUT CALTRANS.
WILL END PGP FOR THAT MATTER
THEY WORK AS A TEAM THEY WERE IN
THERE.
THE UNIT CHIEF PRE POSITIONED
AND ONE IS THE FIRE WAS GOING
WAS NOT ALLOWED TO ENTER BECAUSE
IT WAS NOT THE S. R. A IT WAS IN
THE FOREST LAND FORCED. TO
RETREAT MANAGING THE FIRE.
HE PE POSITION SEVERAL STRIKE
TEAMS IT BY MOUNTAIN LAKE.
SO WHEN I CAME OUT OF THE CANYON
AND HE KNEW WAS COMING OUT OF
THE CANYON.
HE WAS READY REINFORCING LINES
AS BEST THEY COULD HE CAME OUT
OF THE CANYON AND THEY WERE
THERE.
THEY SAVE THE COMMUNITY
APPOINTMENT LIKE.
BIG DAY HAPPEN INTO THE FIRE.
AND ONE OF OF KANSAS IS CHEAPER
MUCH TO. TEAM WERE IN THAT FIGHT
THEY HAD WON THAT FIGHT.
GOING UP THE NORTH FORK THE CALL
ME WERE.
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
THEN.
THIS FIRE WAS FOUR HUNDRED TWO
SQUARE MILES.
YOU TALKED ABOUT BIG FIRES YOU
DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THAT IS.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU HOW BIG IT IS
DRIVE ON I EIGHT FIVE FIVE FOR
THREE HOURS THE MILE BLACK ON
YOUR LEFT. MILD LACKING A WRITE
SPEED LIMIT THREE HOURS.
LAST YEAR. CHEAPER MUCH AT ONE
POINT TWO MILLION ACRES THAT'S
OVER THIRTEEN HOURS.
IT'S MUCH BIGGER THAT'S FIFTY
PERCENT BIGGER THAN THE STATE OF
RHODE ISLAND.
I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING
HERE I REALLY OUGHT TO BE
TALKING ABOUT WHY BUT I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT THINGS. FINANCIAL
ASSISTANCE AS IN CENTER NIELSEN
HAS QUESTION BUT THAT ONLY
TAKES.
SHORT TIME THREE MONTHS
SOMETIMES SIX MONTHS AGO WHAT
YOU GETS ROLLING GOES PRETTY
GOOD I GOT NO COMPLAINTS THEY
WORK WAS REALLY HARD. BUT WE
HAVEN'T GOT THE MONEY.
OKAY WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE FELL
BACK.
WELL I'LL TELL YOU FISH WHAT
LIFE STORY. THE FIRES CONTAIN
MEMORY SHOULD CONTAIN SEVENTY
DAYS. PRETTY MUCH AFTER THAT I'M
OUT THERE WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE
AND THERE'S A FORTY FOOT TALL
SOME BLAZING AWAY THAT FAR
WASN'T OUT IT WAS CONTAINED. AND
THE DEVASTATION WILDLIFE WAS
TERRIBLE. THE LONG FLIGHT BIRDS
FLEW AWAY.
BUT THE SHORT FLIGHT BIRDS.
QUAYLE TURKEYS.
THEY GET FRIED.
THE TOURIST REELS FROM THE TOP
OF FOOD CHAIN OF MY OWN LIFE IN
THE IN THE BEAR. THE CATALYST
DEAR RIGHT DOWN THE CHIPMUNKS
SQUIRRELS THE CHECK READS THE
THE SKUNKS AND OPOSSUMS THEY ALL
GOT FRIED OUT THERE FOX'S I MEAN
I SAW SOME OF HIS FIRST IN. I
WAS THERE.
AND THE FOR A SHUT DOWN FOR A
WHOLE GUY BLISSETT YEAR.
WHERE TOURISM ECONOMY?
WE THINK THAT DID TO US.
THEY CUT HUNTING PERMITS BY OVER
FORTY PERCENT BECAUSE.
THEY WANT PEOPLE OUT THERE I
MEAN ON AND ON AND ON THE
ECONOMIC DISASTER WAS TERRIBLE.
CUTIE TEXT DOWN I MEAN THAT
STUFF WE CAN'T. CAN'T AFFORD TO
LOSE NOW.
HERE'S ONE FOR THE ECONOMIC
IMPACT YOU DON'T SEE. BECAUSE
YOU'LL THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL
SOMEONE POINTED OUT TO. BE A
TOURISM ECONOMY WE HAD A LOT OF
SERVICE WORKERS.
THIRTY METERS THEY DON'T HAVE
JOBS THEY HAVE TO LEAVE.
AND WE HAD TO REBUILD THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE.
BECAUSE THEY LIVE PAYCHECK TO
PAYCHECK I MEAN THIS IS IT SHE'S
ON AN ON THE IMPACTS THIS. BY
THE WAY. BY WAY OF THE FIRES
COLD.
IT MAKES YOU SO IT'S GONNA.
NO ROOM FOR IS STILL A DISASTER
AND RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S AN
ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER WE
BURNED.
SIXTY EIGHT THOUSAND HIGH
SEVERITY BURN I HEARD YOU SAY
CENTER NIELSEN ABOUT BUT SOBERED
WHAT'S IT WITH NINETY EIGHT
THOUSAND ACRES OF IT WAS A WAS
MEDIUM.
STATION WHERE.
THIS STUFF ISN'T COMING BACK IN
MY LIFETIME OR YOUR'S UNLESS
SOMETHING'S DONE ABOUT HIM VERY
LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT IT WE
SHALL WE JUST EVERYTHING WE
COULD BUT WE COULDN'T GET
STARTED FOR OVER A YEAR.
THE PRIVATE LANDS WERE SHALL WE
JUST IMMEDIATELY.
WITH THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE IN
THIS STATE BUT IT'S GONNA WORLD
LOSE IT AND YOU'RE GOING TO
LOSE.
THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH THIS
UNLESS WE KEEP THESE THINGS.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HE IS
DOES NOT DO GOOD LAND MANAGEMENT
THAT'S A KEY PART OF THE
PROBLEM.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE FORCE
LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY WERE HEALTHY
A HUNDRED YEARS AGO STEM
DENSITIES WERE SIXTY EIGHTY
MAYBE EVEN A HUNDRED AND SOME
PLACES. THE AVERAGE DENSITY ON
THEIR OWN REGION FIVE THE
NATIONAL FORESTS. SEATS THREE
HUNDRED AND THIRTY TODAY.
I'VE SEEN PLACE WHICH OVER FIVE
HUNDRED THE DEER CAN'T WALK
THROUGH IT YOU CAN'T WALK
THROUGH IT.
I MEAN THAT CONDITION OR FORCE
IS TERRIBLE WE TALK ABOUT
THERAPEUTIC UNDER BURNS.
GREAT IDEA BUT ONLY A LIMITED
AMOUNT OF FORCE CABLE TAKING THE
THERAPEUTIC UNDERWEAR.
WE HAVE UNHEALTHY FOREST.
THEY'RE STRESSED YET A DROUGHT.
THEY'RE MORE OR THEY'RE
OVERSTRESSED LIVE TIMBER USED
HIS IS DRIER THAN THE KILLED
RIGHT MATERIAL BY LOS.
YET THE BARK BEETLE WHICH IS
NATURALLY OCCURRING AND YOU HAVE
A DISASTER FOR CITIES CLEAR
CUTTING ITSELF IN MY COUNTY
RIGHT OW. AND WE'RE HAVING
PROBLEMS KEEPING UP WITH THE
NATIONAL FOREST ISN'T WERE DOING
IT MY HAT'S OFF TO THE GOVERNOR
FOR PUTTING A TASK FORCE
TOGETHER. TODAY TO CAN AND MARK
AND THEN THE TEAM THAT ARE
DRIVING THIS THING WERE MAKING
ITS ROUTINE IN MY COUNTY DEAL
WITH IT. BUT.
IT'S STILL A DISASTER AND WE
GOT TO DO WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES
ARE CHANGING. AND THE.
LET'S SEE I HAD A COUPLE OF
THINGS.
WELL I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS BUT
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
BASICALLY MY VIEW FROM THE
FORCED PERSPECTIVE NO I'M THE
BIGGEST TIMBER FOR ANY IN
HISTORY. STATUS QUO IS
ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS AND IT
ISN'T GONNA CHANGE QUICK.
I MEAN IF YOU WERE ABLE TO PUT
THE CAPACITY OF A NEW SAWMILL IN
CALIFORNIA AND I ONLY SAW MILL
BECAUSE IT BECAUSE IT'S A. IT'S
A KNOWN QUANTITY ROUGHLY A
HUNDRED POINTS ONLY TWENTY SEVEN
LEFT IN THIS STATE SOMETHING
LIKE THAT. HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE
MILLION BOARD FEET.
KQ.
I THINK IT'S TWENTY FIVE YEARS
NO KNOWN ALTER TAKE THIRTY YEARS
TO CATCH UP WITH FORCE GROWTH.
SIXTY YEARS FIFTY YEARS YOU BET
WE ARE TODAY.
THEY CLAIM THEY WERE AND THEY
WERE A HARVESTING THREE HUNDRED
MILLION BOARD FEET A YEAR.
HE DID THAT TO BE TWELVE AND A
HALF YEARS TO CATCH UP IN TWENTY
FIVE YEARS. BUT JUST LIMIT CASE
ANALYSIS HAS SOME SECTIONS IS AS
AWFUL AS IT WAS AN ORDER OF
MAGNITUDE. THING I'M AN ENGINEER
AND SCIENTIST YOU EXCUSE ME
CALCULATES THING SO WE GOT A
SERIOUS PROBLEM GOING TO
MAINTAIN WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE WE
GOT. WE GOT TO CREATE AN
ENVIRONMENT.
TO GROW THAT SO WE CAN DEAL WITH
THIS AND DO IT SENSITIVELY AND
RESPONSIBLY SO WE MAINTAIN THE
FOREST WE IMPROVE THE HABITAT.
FOR THE WILDLIFE I MEAN WE'RE
MANAGING ON SINGLE ISSUE. KINDS
OF THINGS NOW IT'S A SYSTEM YOU
CAN'T DO THAT. SURPLUSES GOING
GIVE USEABLE ALONE.
YOU BLOW UP THE BLUE KNIT TIE IT
OFF YOU LOOK AT IT NEEDS AND.
KIMBERLY LEAST IMPERFECT
EQUILIBRIUM YOU PRESS ON IT IN
EVERY PART OF THAT THING FEELS
THE SAME THING WHEN YOU CHANGE
SOMETHING WHEN YOU MANAGE. THE
FOREST AND IF YOU DO SOMETHING
OVER STRESS THAT YOU HAD
CATASTROPHIC RESULTS THAT'S
WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND WE HAVE
TO CHANGE. FEDERAL LANDS ARE A
BIG PROBLEM BETTER THE FEDS DO
NOT MANAGE THE LAND. THEY CLAIM
THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES
ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF THEY'RE
NOT DOING THE JOB. AND WE NEED
TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITIES WE
GOT IF WE GOT A CHANCE TO PULL
THIS THING OFF AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS AND THE.
SHE YOUR TIME AND YOUR
INDIFFERENCE COULD YOU PUT UP
LISTENING TO A LOT. OF US AND
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO BE
EDUCATED AND LEARN. WE'RE GONNA
START WITH SENATOR ROTH.
THE MANAGER SUPERVISOR.
JUST ACTUALLY TWO QUESTIONS YOU
REFERENCE TO A SITUATION WHERE
THE FIRE WAS ON FEDERAL LANDS
BUT THE AGAINST CAL FIRE OR THE
STATE. RESOURCES WERE ALLOWED
IN.
WHICH SUGGESTS TO ME A
COORDINATION PROBLEM. WAS A
RECORD NATION PROBLEM AND HAD
THE RESEARCH HAS BEEN ALLOWED.
ON FEDERAL PROPERTY.
WOULD THAT HAVE COULD THAT HAVE
RESULTED IN A LESS OF A
CATASTROPHE.
WELL I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THE
QUESTION LOOK I ATE.
I DON'T KNOW THE IN INS AND OUTS
OF THIS STUFF BUT WE. ARE GOING
TO TELL YOU THAT DID I THINK WE
PLAY TOO MUCH POLITICALLY
CORRECT WHEN WE DO THIS STUFF
AND I'M NOT VERY POLITICALLY
CORRECT.
MAYBE A SUPER WAY BUT I'M NOT
REALLY GOOD POLITICIAN WILL
BRING YOU UP HERE. IT JOINED A I
DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT LASTED
SOMEWHERE IN THE SOMEWHERE DO
SOMETHING.
BUT ANYWAY.
.
I WAS TOLD AT THE TIME. THAT WE
ARE WE HAVE TO WAIT TO BE
INVITED INTO FEDERAL LANDS.
OKAY.
AND.
AND BUT WHAT IF IT HITS THE S.
R. A. THEN WE CAN COME AND
DECLARE UNIFIED COMMAND AND
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
NOW I WILL TELL YOU I DEMANDED
AN AFTER ACTION WHICH. BECAUSE
OF THE WAR I COME FROM WE ALWAYS
DID AFTER ACTION IF YOU WILL OR
A.
DO THINGS AND THE OPENING EVENT.
OF THE YEAR PRESENTATION IMPLIED
THAT WE WERE WE WERE ALL
TOGETHER AT THE BEGINNING AND
AND THAT REALLY WASN'T TRUE IT
WAS WHEN HISTORY AND WITH LOTUS
IT WAS DAY THREE OR FOUR. AND
WAS UNIFIED COMMAND OF HAND.
AND THE.
THE FOREST SERVICE GUY WHEN I
ASKED HIM A SIMPLE QUESTION. I
SHOULD TELL ME IN PERFECT TWENTY
TWENTY HINDSIGHT.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D DONE
DIFFERENT ANYTHING YOU TO HEAD
IN PLACE ANYTHING. OF.
ANYTHING DIFFERENT IF YOU COULD
HAVE ANYONE. HE BASICALLY SAID
NO WE DIFFERENT PERFECTLY WELL
MY FIRST REACTION WAS YOU TOLD
ME TO GET IT DOES REQUIRE SOME
ROADS YOU GET. YOUR FIREFIGHTERS
INFORMATIONAL CLICK PACK AT
LEAST TO CLEAR THE ROADS.
OKAY WHAT MORE THINGS ARE REALLY
WARM TO SAY WAS I INVITED KILL
FOR AN EARLIER KILL FIRE FIGHTS
FIRES THEY DON'T MAINTAIN THAT
PUT HIM OUT. IN A WATCH HIM DO
IT HEY'RE AMAZING. THEY ARE AN
INCREDIBLE FORCE. STATE UGH
IDEAS GIVE LEADERSHIP BUT A LOT
OF CREDIT FOR THAT. BUT THE
REASON I ASK IS OBVIOUSLY THAT
CONCERNS ME I MEAN I REMEMBER
YEARS AND YEARS AGO IT MAY NOT
BE TRUE NO EFFECT THEM PROBABLY.
A CERTAIN IT'S NOT BUT THE.
MILITARY FOR FIGHTING AERIAL
RESURFACES USED TO HAVE TO WAIT
TO BE INVITED. AND. FOR THOSE
CASUAL OBSERVERS LIKE ME
SOMETIMES IT SEEMS THE
INVITATION WAS A LITTLE LATE.
TO THE PARTIES SO I'M VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT THIS
COORDINATION ISSUE I'M NOT
THROUGH THIS ANYTHING WE CAN
HANDLE.
UNDER THE DOME IN THIS BUILDING
BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING I
THINK THAT SOMEONE SHOULD WORK
ON. BECAUSE IF YOU COULD REDUCE
THE SEVERITY OF A FIRE OR
PERHAPS. TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU
EVER PUT OUT OF ONE OF THESE BIG
FIRES. DO THAT AND IT HAPPENS TO
BE ON FEDERAL LAND. IN UNSTABLE
AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD
COMPLAIN THAT IT'S NOT OUR
PROPERTY IT'S THEIR PROPERTY IF
WE WERE ABLE TO DO SO SO SUMMER
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE
THAT OUT AND. MAYBE THE DIRECTOR
CAN HELP WORK ON THAT MY SECOND
QUESTION RELATES TO NOTIFICATION
YOU ALLUDED TO A.
SEEM TO ALLUDE TO SOME.
NOTIFICATION PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED
WITH THE RIM FIRE. AND WHILE
THIS IS BIG A BIG BUDGET HEARING
ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE I MIGHT NOT
GET TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN SO I
WOULD LIKE YOUR PERSPECTIVE OF
MY BUSINESS CARD THERE IT'S GOT
MY CELL PHONE CALL HIS SIR.
COULD YOU COULD YOU PERHAPS
ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT
YOU ALLUDED TO EARLIER UP WE WE
PUT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
FIREFIGHTERS TOGETHER AND. AND
HAD THEM.
LOOK AT HOW THIS FIRE WAS
PROGRESSING AND SET TRIGGER
POINTS FOR EVACUATIONS.
EVACUATION ADVISORIES
EVACUATION ORDERS BY THE WAY IN
THE MIDDLE OF FIRE WHEN I'M
QUOTED DIRECT EMERGENCY SERVICES
FOR THE COUNTY. MY BRIDE CALLS
ME DOESN'T SEE ME ALL THE
ANSWERS WERE EVACUATION VISOR I
SAY YES DEAR I KNOW THAT.
IT OUT MYSELF. BUT.
WE THEN DID THE REVERSE NINE ONE
ONE CALLS. AND THE FIRST THING
WE DID WAS WE WERE.
WE HADN'T TESTED THAT SYSTEM.
LONGTIME I EXPECT MOST PEOPLE
DON'T.
BUT THE FIRST THING WE FOUND OUT
WAS MOST PEOPLE HAVE CELL PHONES
AND A DROP THINGS AND THAT
BECAME A PROBLEM.
SECOND ONE IS. AND BY THE WAY
THE PURVEYORS DID NOT LIKE
LISTENING TO THE CALL THEY GOT
FROM ME.
WE HAD TO UPDATE OUR LIST OF OUR
PHONE CALL LIST.
FROM THE PROVIDERS EIGHTEEN D.
COMCAST AND OTHERS.
AND BECAUSE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CURRENT LIST.
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS WE HAD TO
SIGN A CONTRACT A NONDSCLOSURE
CONTRACT AND PAY THE MONEY TO
GET THOSE LISTS SO THAT WE COULD
OPERATE A REVERSE NINE ONE.
AND I SAID DURING SHOULD SHE. I
THOUGHT WHEN I PROVOKE WHAT
SERVICE FROM YOU THAT I WAS
AUTOMATICALLY ON THIS THING YOU
MEAN THAT ISN'T INCLUDE THE
PRICE YOU CAN'T CALL CHARGE
ACCOUNTS FOR THIS INFORMATION.
AND I BELIEVE THAT HASN'T
CHANGED.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS WRONG ALL
THOSE LAND MINES AND I SOMEHOW
WE GOT IT WE'VE GOT A VOLUNTARY
SYSTEM NOW WHERE YOU CAN PUT
YOUR CELL PHONE ON OUR. OUR
SYSTEM IS TO CALL BUT DID. YOU
KNOW THAT'S LIKE SHAKING A BAG.
OF A SALTER'S OR. SUGAR OUT YOU
DON'T GET IT ALL AND I DON'T
THINK WE'RE GETTING A MALL
COLLECTED BUT.
THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM.
THAT'S VERY DISTURBING TO ME IF
IT'S STILL HIGH THOUGHT IT WOULD
BE. TOO SO I WOULD
CERTAINLY-HOPE THAT WHOEVER IS
LISTENING
TO THIS. ON THE FIRST FLOOR OR
WHATEVER PUT THAT ON THE LIST.
TO TALK ABOUT WHEN THEY HAVE
THIS BIG MEETING AND THEN
APPARENTLY THEY'RE THEY'RE
HAVING ARE GOING TO HAVE.
TO TALK ABOUT AFTER ACTION
ISSUES ON OUR MOST RECENT FIRES
THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT
EITHER. WE CAN TACKLE IN THIS
BUILDING WHERE THE PC CAN TACKLE
OR WE BOTH CAN TACKLE WITH
RESPECT TO ACCESS TO EMERGENCY.
BUT THE NUMBERS FOR EMERGENCY
PURPOSES BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR RESPONSE SUPERVISOR IN
FOR YOUR EFFORT THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR.
SHARE YOUR.
OF THE DEVISE ARE ON THE CAL
FIRE CHART IT WAS IN OUR PACKET
WHICH YOU PROVIDED A COPY ALSO
YOU YOU INFERRED.
THAT YOUR TWENTY SIX YEAR AGO
EXPERIENCE IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT
AND YOU ALLUDED TO AN OPINION
YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT. WHY THIS
TIME BIGGER AND MORE FEROCIOUS?
YOU COULD COULD YOU ELABORATE ON
THAT I'M CERTAINLY.
THE.
I WAS LIVING IN TWO ONLY COUNTY
AT THE TIME I ACTUALLY WAS
LIVING ELSEWHERE IN CALIFORNIA.
WHEN THE.
THE COMPLEX FOR HAVING MY HAPPY
TO BE IN BEAR VALLEY AND AN
ALPINE COUNTY WHEN IT HAPPENED.
AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW BIG
THAT THING WAS NO TERRIBLE WAS.
WELL.
TWENTY SIX YEARS.
LATER.
OKAY THE HOLSTER WITH TWENTY SIX
YEARS LATER ON THE SAME
FOOTPRINT IN IT WALLY RIVER
CANYON.
THE RIM FIRE STARTED.
THE BRUSH HAD GROWN BACK YET
TERRIFIC LEVELS ON ICY TWELVE
FOURTEEN SIXTEEN FEET TALL AND
THAT STEPPED HIS IT'S COLLATERAL
FUEL IS GROWN FUEL THIS GOT TO
BE A CANOPY FIRE REALLY QUICK.
OKAY THE CANOPIES ORIGINAL STOP
ON IT.
THE LITTLE BIT OF A WORK THAT
WAS DONE IN THERE WHERE THEY DID
SIRIUS VEGETATION MANAGEMENT IT
CAN IT WORK BUT WHAT THEY DID
PART OF IT WHERE THEY DID. A
THIRTY FIVE PERCENT REMOVAL IT
DIDN'T WORK OUT OF. OUR FORCES
SO BAD IT NEEDS IT YEAH AND I
CAN'T GENERALLY. COVENTRY PLACE
BY PLACE WOODEN CAN'T BE FAR
JUST BURNED EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING.
GOT IT INTO NIELSEN FOLLOWED BY
SENATOR MOORE A LOT.
WELL FRED I JUST MUST FOLLOW UP
TO PROVIDE HAND BUILT ON THE
POINT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT THE
COORDINATION WITH. HELLFIRE.
THE NEW US
FOR SERVICE.
OVER THE MANY MANY YEARS I'VE
BEEN AROUND DEALING WITH FIRES.
THAT HAS BEEN BEEN AN ONGOING
COMPLAINT.
BUT CAL FIRE.
FIREFIGHTERS.
THAT THEY DO NOT.
GET THE COOPERATION.
FROM US FISH AND WILDLIFE.
HE WAS FORCED.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE
THAT MUST BE A PART OF THE
DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD.
BECAUSE IT DOES IDEALS CONTINUE
BE A PROBLEM YOU HAVE JUST
EXPERIENCED I GATHER.
AND THE YOU MENTIONED THE RAPID
RE GROWTH.
WELL THAT BRUSH.
DO YOU SEE THAT MANIFESTED THIS
THE RIM FIRE IS TO DO YOU SEE
ANYTHING COMING BACK NOW THAT'S
BEEN ABOUT TWO YEARS.
WHAT WHAT'S COMING OUT OF A FIVE
YEAR IS FALL YES ABSOLUTELY WE
SEE WE'VE SEEN A LARGE AMOUNT
OF?
BRUSH COME BACK COMES BACK
FIRST.
TREES GROW VERY SLOWLY INFECTED
CROWDS OUT THE TREES WE WILL SEE
A LOT OF NOXIOUS WEEDS COMING
BACK.
THINGS LIKE YELLOW STAR THISTLE.
MEDUSA HEAD.
AND OTHERS AND THEIR RAMPANT
AND I I'VE BEEN OUT THERE A LOT.
.
PARTIALLY BECAUSE MY MY INTEREST
AVID INTEREST IN THIS AND HOW WE
RECOVER BUT. I WANNA WITH FISH
AND WILDLIFE AND.
.
BY THE SUMMER OF THE FIRST YEAR.
THE GRASSES WERE COMING UP
TWELVE HOURS TO SPECTACULAR
KNOWN TO GO SEAMLESS YOUR
PERMISSION. TO BE OUT THERE BUT
THE MEDUSA HEAD WAS EVERYWHERE.
IN THE BRUSH WAS GROWING WILDLY.
AND THE TREES HAD EVEN STARTED
REPLANTING. I MEAN WE TAKE OUT
SUPER VEGETATION MANAGEMENT YOU
KNOW.
THE RECENT THE SEED TREATED DROP
THE ACORN STUDENTS THE TRIANGLE
NEWS FEEDS. THEY'RE OUT THERE
PLANTING. OF TREES NOW AND THEY
DID SOME LAST YEAR BUT IT'S A
MERE. SCRATCHES THE SURFACE
THAT.
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU TALK
ABOUT THE ECONOMICS OF THIS I
BELIEVE THAT THE COST TO FIGHT
THIS FIRE WAS. A HUNDRED TWENTY
FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY MILLION
THAT WAS THE OFFICIAL NUMBER
CAME OF THE FEDS.
BUT THE REAL COST.
IN ADDITION THE THE THINGS WERE
PUT IN BY MY LAW ENFORCEMENT
GUYS AND THANK GOD FOR MUTUAL
AID.
.
I MEAN THAT ADDS ON THE COST.
AND THEN THE COST RECOVERY. IS
HUGE I HAVE NO IDEA WILL BE
PLACE IT WON'T HAPPEN IN MY
LIFETIME YEARS.
WELL THAT'S WHY WE WITH OUR
EMPHASIS ON THE PREVENTION HERE
I THINK IS.
STARTING TO RING LOUDLY.
THE COST OF.
RECOVERY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN JUST PUTTING
THE FIRE OUT THAT MEANS THE
DECADES OR SO.
AND THAT THOSE TREES.
I AM NO FORSTER.
BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO IT
TAKES FIFTEEN TO TWENTY FOUR
MORE YEARS FOR THOSE TREES TO
BUY FLOUR COMPLETELY. IT'S GONNA
TAKE SEVENTY FIVE EIGHTY YEARS
BEFORE WHEN WE REBUILD PORTIONS
THAT FORCE BECUSE THE TREES TO
STICK THAT LONG TO GROW THEY
THEY JUST DON'T COME BACK FIRST.
THAT TAKES A VERY LONG TIME.
SOLD VEGETATION MANAGEMENT.
THE REALLY CRITICAL.
EXPAND AGAIN BUT YOU SAID YOU
WERE PRETTY SATISFIED WITH THE
MUTUAL. AID THAT'S A BIG DEAL
WITH ME AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT
COMPLIMENT THAT WE HAVE IN
CALIFORNIA BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT
IT WILL FIRE SERVICES HOW DID
THAT WORK OUT. FOR YOU.
MUTUAL AID COULD HAVE TO QUIT
LAW ENFORCEMENT COURSE YOU KNOW
FIREFIGHTERS CAME FROM ALL OVER
THE COUNTRY I THINK I COUNTED
FORTY SIX STATES. AND IT'S
PROBABLY THEY WERE ALL HERE BUT
I JUST DIDN'T SEE THE REST OF.
US I COUNTED VIRTUALLY
RECOUNTING STATE CALIFORNIA THEY
WERE PROBABLY ALL THERE TO.
I USE BUSINESS REALLY SEEM ALL
SO FROM A FIRE PERSPECTIVE THAT
WAS MADE BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I WENT THROUGH THE CHECKPOINT
EVERYDAY IT WAS A DIFFERENT TEAM
THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN A CHP
USUALLY RECEIVE CHECK POINT BUT
WE HAD STANISLAUS COUNTY AND
SEVERAL OTHERS COMING UP THERE
AND. THEY WERE ALL THERE TO HELP
US IT WAS AMAZING IT WAS THE
RESPONSE WAS OVERWHELMING. WE
WOULD NEVER. EVER BEEN ABLE TO
HANDLE THAT WITHOUT ME TO LIKE
IT JUST.
I MEAN IT BRINGS TEARS TO YOUR
EYES WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT
THESE GUYS WERE DOINGAND I SAID
HELLO TO NEW PEOPLE EVERY DAY.
BECAUSE THEY WERE COMING TO HELP
US. YEAH.
THANK YOU I THINK GUSTER LET ME
YET. INQUIRER I'M VERY FAMILIAR
BECAUSE I WAS A. PRIVILEGE TO
REPRESENT CINEMA FOR MANY MANY
YEARS.
THAT THAT NORTH AREA.
ARE THOSE FOLKS
EVEN CLOSE TO BE RE REBUILDING
OR HAS THE.
THE AREA BEEN CLEARED YET. CHECK
FOR THE ANY.
THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE TO
LOOK INTO THE TERMS OF THIS GAS
STORE OR OIL STORAGE OR
CHEMICALS AND THEY HAVE TO DO
THAT FIRST AND THEN CLEAN
EVERYTHING UP BEFORE THEY GAVE
REVEALED ARE THEY EVEN GETTING
STARTED AT THAT YET. THEY ARE SO
COPY PARK IS ALL CLEARED AND THE
THE THE SOILS BEEN TESTED AND
IT'S IT'S ALL CLEAR TO REBUILD I
BELIEVE THERE'S. ONE HOUSE IT'S
ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN BY ANOTHER
EIGHT TO TEN LOTS OF HAVE LUMBER
ON I'M AND THEN ANOTHER TWENTY
WHAT PERMITS THAT'S JUST COPY
PART COFFEE PARK AND PROBABLY
FOURTEEN UNDERARMS FIFTEEN
HUNDRED OHMS.
I FOUND A GIRL ON THE OTHER HAND
THAT'S NOT COMPLETE YET.
THEY'RE STILL YOU KNOW WORKING
ON HILLSIDES AND. AND I SO
THAT'S A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING
AND YOU GOT THE REST OF THE
COUNTY YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE
THERE'S. HALF THE BUILDINGS WERE
NOT COUNTED MARQUIS SPRINGS
DRAINAGE AND.
AND.
CALLOUS TO THE ROAD AREA.
WELL THIS IS THE REPETITIONS IN
KOREA. FORMER PANEL DEALT WITH
IT TOO BUT I I DWELL ON IT
BECAUSE. I THINK IT'S A MESSAGE
THAT NEEDS TO.
AGAIN BE LOUDLY HURT.
IT WAS MY FEAR AND I SUPPOSE IT.
CAME MOST OF MY ATTENTION.
WAS I WATCHED.
NAPA AND SONOMA.
NOW THE SEVEN COUNTIES. DIE AS I
SAID I REPRESENTED. SIX OF THOSE
SEVEN.
BUT THAT'S THE. HIGH COST OF
LIVING.
AND I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED
THAT SOME OF THOSE FOLKS WILL
NEVER BE ABLE TO. BUILD BACK TO
THE STANDARD THAT THEY HAD
BEFORE.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT
CONVERGE. COMES CONCOMITANT WITH
THAT IN THAT SOME OF THE
MANDATES OF THE STATE.
ANY DISCUSSIONS UP THE. GENERAL
WAY ABOUT THAT. GATHER ART WHAT
WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT
THERE'S A LOT OF FOR SALE SIGNS.
THAT ARE THERE PROPPING UP SOME
PEOPLE SOLD ALREADY GOT THEIR
INSURANCE MONEY AND THERE THEY
BOUGHT OTHER PLACES IN AND
AROUND SANTA ROSA OR FURTHER
AWAY.
SO THERE ARE QUITE A FEW
LASSITER FOR SALE.
THE CODES THE BUILDING CODES ARE
DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE WHEN
THOSE HOUSES WERE BUILT SO
COFFEE PARK IS A THIRTY YEAR
OLD.
A. HOUSING PROJECT.
WE WANT TO BE BETTER WE WANT TO
BE.
MOVING FORWARD IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION AND PART OF THAT IS
BUILDING UP TO THE CURRENT CODE
SO ALL THOSE HOMES WILL BE BUILT
TO THE CURRENCY AT THE CURRENT
CODE STANDARD AS WELL AS HAT AT
FAR SOONER SO THEY'LL HAVE FLAT
FIRE SPRINKLERS. ALL THE HOMES
AND THE WHILE AN URBAN INTERFACE
WILL FOLLOW THE TWO THOUSAND
EIGHT SEVEN EIGHT CHAPTER
REQUIREMENTS SO THEY'LL BE
HARDENED FOR THE WHILE AN
INTERFACE. NINETY EIGHT PERCENT
OF THE HOMES AND SANTA ROSA AND
THE COUNTY WERE BUILT PRIOR TO
THAT SO THEY WORK HARD AND. AND
IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IN THAT
WE'RE GOING TO. ALLOW PEOPLE TO
BUILD IN THESE AREAS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE
BUILDINGS ARE AS IS RESISTANT AS
IT CAN BE AS REASONABLY AS WE
CAN WE CAN MAKE A MORE RESISTANT
MISS GOING TO. JACK THE PRICE UP
PRICE SO.
WHAT THESE CODES DO OUR A A
GOOD THING BUT IT TAKES WHEN YOU
LIVE IN AN AREA LIKE THIS IT
TAKES A PROPERTY OWNER ALSO TO
MAKE SURE THEY HAVE DEFENSIBLE
SPACE ARE CLEAN AND OUR
DAUGHTERS THERE? IN OTHER MAKING
SURE EVERYTHING'S BUTTONED UP
WHEN WE HAVE THESE WHEN THE
VANCE.
WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ONE OF AND
SAY WE CAN I GET.
TAKE TAKE CARE PROPERTY. AND A
POOR RESIDENTS AND COFFEE PARK
THEY WILL THEY WILL BE BUILT TO
THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE
CAUSER HALF MILE FROM THE
WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE. THIS
WAS LARGELY A WIND DRIVEN FIRE.
WE HAVE REPORTS OF ROOFS
LIFTING OFF THE HOUSES BEFORE
THE FIRE EVEN GOTTEN COFFEE
PARK.
SO THIS REALLY WAS A WIND DRIVEN
EVENT AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO
TO BUILD A COMMUNITY TO RESIST
THAT TYPE OF AN EVENT THE. AND
WITHOUT MAKING IT TOO OVER BURN
SOME SAGE EAST HE SPOKE ABOUT
PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO
REBUILD.
AND YOU'RE SEEING PRICES OF FIVE
HUNDRED DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT
FOR A BASIC HOUSE I USED TO BE A
CUSTOM HOME A FEW YEARS AGO
RIGHT.
SO THERE IS SOME OF THAT GOING
ON THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE
UNDER SHARED AND OR SOME PEOPLE
THAT ARE INSURED BUT WE FOLLOW
ALL OF THE REST OF THE COUNTY
YOU KNOW. THERE'S GOING TO BE.
THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO BUILD.
TO THE SAME SIZE A HOUSE THEY
HAVE. NOW WITHOUT TAKING OUT
ADDITIONAL LOANS. SITES IT'S A
PROBLEM. I KNOW THE INSURANCE
INDUSTRY IS WORKING ON IT AND.
YOU KNOW IT'S.
AND AND YOU GOT YOU KNOW YOU
BUILD A NEW HOME YOU NEED NEW
THINGS.
SO IT EVER EVERYTHING ADDS UP.
AND IT MAKES IT HARDER ON
EVERYONE WELL THE INSURANCE IS
ANOTHER ISSUE AND I KNOW MANY.
COMPANIES SHOULD BE IN REAL
COOPERATIVE AND HELPFUL BUT.
I'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF
COMPLAINTS.
EMANATING FROM THE AREA THAT I
REPRESENT THE ABOUT THE. LEAST
DANGEROUS BEING JERKS AND THAT
THAT IS OF CONCERN TO US.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
FOR ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
CENTER MORLOCK.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR I'M JUST
CURIOUS ON ON THIS AGENDA.
WHY WE DON'T HAVE A
REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT?
BETTER OVERSEAS ARE FORCED.
LANDED IN CALIFORNIA WHY WHY
DON'T WE HAVE.
THEM AS A PANELIST TODAY.
DO WE KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT
QUESTION BUT CENTERED WE CAN
FIND OUT.
I IN MY EXPERIENCE WE DO NOT
OFTEN HAVE FEDERAL AGENCIES
APPEAR BEFORE US.
AND. THEN THAT'S.
WELL WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE.
STEPHANIE.
YEAH.
OKAY I'M. THANK YOU FOR THE LIST
RANDY ARM. YOU HAVE ON HERE A
NUMBER OF.
FIRES THAT. YOU LIST THE CAUSES
POWER LINES.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN.
I PROBABLY CAN'T THIS JUST CAME
OFF THE INTERNET THIS IS ALL YOU
DO IS GO OVER THE TOP TWENTY
FOUR HOURS CALIFORNIA. IS THE
LARGEST FIRES YOU CAN GET THE
MOST DEVASTATING FIRES YOU GET
THESE FAR AS THEY WERE TALKING
ABOUT BUT THAT THIS IS IS
SUPPOSEDLY WHAT CAUSED. THE FIRE
AND I SUSPECTED THAT WE'RE
RETREAT A POWER LINE. OR
SOMETHING YOU THERE'S BEEN THAT
WAS ACCUSING THE BUTTE FIRE.
JUST NORTH OF ME.
IS BEING THE CAUSE.
AND I'M GUESSING THAT'S THAT'S
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEN YOU HAVE THE VALLEY FIRE ON
THE SECOND LIST OR ONE OF THE
TWO LISTS NUMBER FOUR IN ITS
SAYS ELECTRICAL.
SO I WAS WONDERING HOW THAT
WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM POWER
LINES BUT.
BUT.
I THOUGHT YOU KNOW THE
SUPERVISOR YOU.
PUT THIS LIST TOGETHER YOURSELF.
YOU KNOW ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND
ALL THAT DILIGENCE YOU KNOW THE
ENGINEER MARYLAND YATI YADA I
KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO
BE A SUPERVISOR.
WITH ALL OF YOU KNOW. HE
REPRESENTS HERE WHERE I GREW UP
IN THE. EYES THAT'S GOOD TO SEE
YOUR RANDY I I I JUST WAS
CURIOUS BECAUSE.
YOU WERE PROBABLY IN ORANGE
COUNTY WHEN NUMBER NINETEEN ON
ONE OF THE LIST OF DOING THAT.
OCCURRED.
WE LOST FOUR HUNDRED AND.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING DON'T HAVE
THE SAME LIST THAT IS ON THE
LIST THAT YOU ARE WHAT WHAT I'M
LOOKING AT THESE TWO LISTS THAT
WERE IN MY IN MY?
MY ONLY I'LL GIVE YOU ONE OF MY
GAVE THE OKAY LIKE A THOUGHTLESS
WHEN IT SAYS THE TOP TWENTY
LARGEST CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES. IN
THE ONE THAT SAYS THE TOP TWENTY
MOST DESTRUCTIVE CALIFORNIA
WILDFIRES SO. MAYBE THAT WAS
WITH A.
L. FIRES MATERIALS BUT I. AM I
WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
SINCE SO MANY OF I I CHECKED THE
MARK HOW MANY OF THEM. WERE
STARTED BY POWER LINES SO I
COULD BE MAKING COMMENT JUST
BRIEFLY AND AND THIS WAS
PROVIDED BY CAL FIRE AND I WOULD
IMAGINE THAT. I CAN'T
SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT
ELECTRICAL VERSUS POWER LINES
BUT SO OFTEN IN OUR WIND DRIVEN
FIRES THAT WE HAVE ON IT LINES
ARE KEEN. FAILURES OF OF ITS
GENERAL POWER LINES EITHER
EITHER OUT PUBLICLY. THROUGH THE
UTILITIES OR PRIVATELY OWNED SO
IT'S VERY VERY COMMON CAUSE BUT.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE THIS ONE
OUT BECAUSE RATE PAYERS ARE
PAYING FOR ELECTRICITY.
AND AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT
MAYBE P. JEANNIE HAVING SOME
ISSUES.
AFTER THIS SEASON. BUT THEN IF
THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL KINDS
OF DAMAGES IN REPAIRS.
TO SIX THOUSAND HOMES. THAT
THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT ISN'T
COVERED BY INSURANCE EVEN PAY BY
RATE PAYERS AGAIN.
AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW.
IT SEEMS LIKE A SPIRAL KIND OF A
THING WHERE EVERYBODY LOSES.
WE HAVE ANY ANSWERS.
DOES THAT CONCERN YOU UNDERSTAND
WHAT I'M.
TRYING TO CRASH FOR.
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY. AND THIS ISN'T
MY SPECIALTY BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE
RIGHT I MEAN IT'S IT'S A CLOSED
LOOP AND AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S. THE
FUNDING COMES FROM SOMEWHERE AND
ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO COME
FROM RATEPAYERS.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS.
AM JUST AS A. PROFIT DRIVEN
COMPANY YOU HAVE TO YOU MEAN.
CAN'T BE MUCH.
BUT IT JUST SEEMS THAT GOES BACK
TO THE TAXPAYERS AGAIN THEY'RE
GONNA GET.
HAMMERED AGAIN IT'S THE GIFT
THAT KEEPS ON GIVING I GUESS.
WE HAVE A.
TO CUT A CYPRESS GROVE IN GOLD
CANYON UP IN THE SANTA ANA
MOUNTAINS IT'S SPIKE.
ONE OF TWO I MEAN THE OTHER
WANTED TO COPY MEXICAN.
THE ROBUST GROWTH BUT NO SIX WE
HAD A PRETTY SERIOUS FIRE GO
THROUGH.
KILLED MOST OF THE MAJOR.
TREES SEVER GOT LITTLE SEEDLINGS
THAT ARE GROWING NOW ALL THESE
YEARS LATER BUT.
THESE THESE TREES ACTUALLY RELY
ON FIRE EVERYONE SAW BUT IT'S
LIKE EVERY SIXTY YEARS NOT EVERY
TEN OR SEX. YOUR WIFE MALL OUT.
AND SO.
I I FEEL THE PAIN.
WHICH IS THAT YOU HAVE IT'S JUST
THAT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE
PHENOMENON LIST I GAVE YOU.
FIFTEEN OF THOSE TWENTY LARGEST
FIRES HAPPENED THE LAST TWENTY
YEARS YEAH AND IF YOU LOOK AT
THE OTHER CHART I GAVE IT. THIS
ONE. THIS IS A JUST A SIMPLE
CORRELATION.
WE SLOW DOWN OUR TROOPS ARE
FOREST MANAGEMENT AND WITH OUR
FIRE FREQUENCY AND INTENSITY IS
INCREASED.
I WOULDN'T CALL THAT THE ONLY
CAUSE BUT TO IT THERE'S A
CORRELATION THERE. WROTE FOR
THOSE OF US THAT ARE. CONCERNED
ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT WE
CERTAINLY NEED TO BE A LITTLE
MORE FOCUSED ON PREVENTION WHICH
IS WHICH IS THE NEXT.
PANEL I'M.
IN TWO THOUSAND EIGHT I HAD MY.
CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD EXPERIENCE
WHERE THE FREEWAY FIRE WENT
THROUGH.
YOU'RE BELINDA BREA
ANAHEIM-HILLS AND WE LOST A LOT
OF HOMES.
AND SO THAT WAS LIKE IF A
SATURDAY AND ON SUNDAY. WE
PRETTY MUCH CONTAINED IT AND I
DROVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT WAS PAINFUL.
IT WAS PAINFUL TO MEET WITH.
HOMEOWNERS AT LOST THEIR HOMES.
SO WE HAD A FIRE OF COURSE THE.
CANYON TO THIS FALL AND I MET
WITH COMMAND STAFF AT THE EL
TORO MARINE BASE.
BEEN WORKING WITH AS A
SUPERVISOR WORKING WITH THE
CHIEFS AND.
FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT THAT THAT SONNY I COULD NOT
GO.
I COULDN'T DRIVE THROUGH THE
CANYON I JUST IT WAS.
MAYBE IT'S A PS TV WHATEVER POST
IS SEVEN MAYBE JUST DID I JUST
IT WAS SO TOUGH THE FIRST TIME.
THAT I JUST COULDN'T.
I GET MY CARD AND WANT TO SEE
THE DAMAGE.
THIS THIS TIME IS JUST SO.
SO TRAGIC SO I JUST SAY THAT TO
TO SAY THANKS THINK OUR PRIVATE
LIFE. IN A SMALL WAY RANDY I. IT
WAS A REAL HONOR TO WORK WITH
YOU AS A FELLOW SUPERVISOR I
I'VE I FEEL YOUR PAIN.
THANK YOU MR HERE MUCH WELL
INDEED THE PAIN OF THE OF THE
CITIZENS. TO.
YOU KNOW THEY LOSE EVERYTHING.
AND WHERE THEY GO I'VE NEVER HAD
TO SUFFER MYSELF MUCH FIRE LOSS.
BUT I REPRESENTED SO MANY
COMMUNITIES THAT THEY'RE LOSING
WEIGHT.
I REMEMBER TALKING TO HER THINK
DID. DIRECTOR PIMLOTT THE THAT
NIGHT.
AND THE THE THE FIRE I THINK WAS
JUMPING TWO MILES AHEAD.
THEY THEY COULDN'T EVEN CATCH UP
WITH THE AGAIN WITH A WIND
FACTOR UP THERE BUT THE WHOLE
CITY. THAT SIR. THAT'S SCARY.
YEAH.
OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WAS A
JURY VANITY DAVIS ANY CONDITION
WE HAD OUR HELICOPTER UP IN THE
AIR CRACK AT DAWN WATCHING.
THE WHOLE COUNTY AND WE STILL.
STILL HAPPEN.
PARDON.
SENATOR ROTH YES OF COURSE.
MISTER BLASIER YOU TOUCHED ON.
INSURANCE IN REBUILDING ISSUES
pSUBJECT OF THIS PANEL BUT I
WANT
TO ASK IT ANYWAY I ALSO REALIZE
IT'S.
IT'S REALLY AN ISSUE. REALLY
BETWEEN IN THE INSURANCE
INDUSTRY AND THERE.
CONSUMERS ARE CUSTOMERS BUT.
HAVE ANY OF THE HAVE THE COUNTY
USER OF THE CITIES.
.
EMBARKED ON A AN EFFORT TO TRY
TO EDUCATE RESIDENTS ON THE NEED
TO. ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE OR THE
SECURE REPLACEMENT COVERAGE WHEN
THEY.
AND SURE THERE.
HOUSES FOR EXAMPLE AS OPPOSED TO
SOMETHING ELSE.
BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE
STAGGERING I WHAT I'VE. SAID IN
THE CHOIR WHEN HE MENTIONED
EARLIER FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A
SQUARE FOOT I RAN THAT. ON THE
COMPUTATION THE SQUARE FOOTAGE
OF THE HOUSE THAT I OCCUPY IN.
TO DO THAT I GUESS EXCLUDING
LAND VALUE.
WOULD MEAN THAT.
IM'S WOULD BE SPENDING TWICE
WHAT THE HOUSE COULD SELL FOR IN
THE MARKET TODAY SO I DON'T KNOW
WHY ANYBODY WOULD REBUILD UNDER
THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES UNLESS IT
WAS ALL CASH AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE
TO TAKE OUT A LOAN. TO MY
QUESTION IS ARE WE BEGINNING TO
TRY TO EDUCATE. RESIDENTS ON
REPLACEMENT COVERAGE ISSUES.
AS FAR AS A CITY OR COUNTY AT
ALL I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT I KNOW
THAT'S PART OF THE RECOVERY
DISCUSSION I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S
BEEN EMBARKED ON AT THIS POINT I
KNOW WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF STORIES
IN THE NEWS.
AND DIFFERENT FORMS THAT THAT
SPEAK OF THIS.
SO.
WHILE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY
DIRECT.
COMMENT OUT THERE THERE'S A
BUNCH I KNOW EVERYONE I'VE
TALKED TO THIS IDIOTIC CALLED MY
INSURANCE AGENT ALREADY MADE
JUSTICE AND I NEEDED TO. SELL
ITS PEOPLE ARE VERY AWARE
BECAUSE IT IS SO FRESH.
YOU KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE
THAT RECENTLY PURCHASED IN A BE
OKAY BECAUSE A BABY. PURCHASED
EARLY.
THEY'RE THE REASON WHY THE COST
IS SO HIGH THE FIVE HUNDRED
DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT IS BECAUSE
THEY'RE SO MUCH BUILDING THE YOU
KNOW THE MATERIALS GO UP
EVERYTHING GOES UP AND. AND I
KNOW SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS ARE
TRYING TO KEEP THOSE COSTS DOWN
SO I'VE HAVE HEARD OF SOME THAT
ARE AROUND THREE FIFTY SQUARE
FOOT BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY
PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED AND. THERE'S
A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT
SO I KNOW THE WHOLE INDUSTRY IS
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE
IT CHEAPER. ABOUT THE THE
NUMBERS YOU HEAR THE NUMBERS I
HEAR AS WELL AT AT THE EXTREME
END DOCKING.
THANK YOU THANK YOU MISTER BUSH
NINETY HAD SOMETHING YEAH.
THERE'S ANOTHER INSURANCE
ISSUES GOING ON PARTICULAR WITH
THE. COUNTIES ALL COUNTIES IN
THE TREE MORTALITY OR IN THE
HIGH RISK IN THE IN THE
MOUNTAINS. CHURCH COMMISSION NOT
RENEWING INSURANCE TO CANCEL THE
INSURANCE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I I HAPPEN TO KNOW IT BECAUSE
MY NEIGHBORS AND I GET CALLS ALL
THE TIME. THERE IS A SUB
SUBGROUP OF THE GOVERNOR'S TASK
FORCE COUNTRY MORE TILL IT'S
WORKING THAT ISSUE. HAS BEEN
VERY SLOW WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR
TWO AND A HALF YEARS AND.
AND MEANWHILE PEOPLE ARE PAYING
HUGE PRICES IN SPITE OF THE FACT
THAT THEY HAVE.
IMMENSE AMOUNT OF.
DEFENSIBLE SPACE YOU'RE PAYING
HUGE PRICES TO GET INSURANCE
BECAUSE EACH COMPANIES ARE
TAKING A BROAD BRUSH STROKE
BESIDE DOING IN THAT AREA
ANYMORE. SO THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT
THAT I'D SEE I PAID TEN STUDENTS
STAY TUNED WITH WHAT COULD HE
SAY HE COULD BE A PROBLEM
LONGER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. OF THIS
PANEL.
HEARING NONE DONE ONE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR
ENLIGHTENED REMARKS.
IT SHOULD BE IN HERE.
THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO US AS WE
TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN AT THE
STATE LEVEL.
WE WE HAVE THE NEXT PANEL PLEASE
COME FORWARD. THE FORMER
SEVERING THE NAVAJO.
THOMAS SCOTT STEVENS.
YEAH BUT.
COME ON UP AND JOIN US FOLKS.
I'M NEAL.
WELCOME. WELL LET'S LET OUR.
FRIEND AND MY FORMER COLLEAGUE.
CERTAINLY MANAGUA AND NOW THE
CHAIR OF THE LITTLE HOOVER
COMMISSION THE ESTEEMED LITTLE
HOOVER COMMISSION WELL THANK YOU
VICE. VICE CHAIRMAN NIELSEN AND
US SENATORS. JOKE PART OF. WHAT
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL DAY
TODAY IS? INCLUDED IN OUR MOST
RECENT REPORT FROM THE LITTLE
HOOVER COMMISSION. OF CALLED
FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN. LOU HOOVER
COMMISSION IS A.
BIPARTISAN.
A BODY THAT DOES.
INDEPENDENT EVALUATION OF
EXECUTIVE BRANCH OPERATIONS.
INCLUDING THE AGENCIES AS WELL
AS. THE GOVERNOR'S
REORGANIZATIONS.
AND.
I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT.
SOME OF WHAT YOU'VE HEARD
ALREADY TODAY BECAUSE A LOT OF
WHAT YOU HEARD IS INCLUDED IN
THIS REPORT.
BUT I DID NOTE THAT IN TERMS OF
THE MEMBERSHIP OF THIS
COMMITTEE.
IN REVEALING FIRE HISTORY IN
YOUR DISTRICTS THAT AT YOU WALT
CUMULATIVELY LOST OF ONE MILLION
EIGHT HUNDRED AND SEVENTY ONE
THOUSAND ACRES. OF FOREST LAND
DUE TO FIRES OVER A PERIOD OF
YEARS.
OUR REPORT WAS.
SPARKED PARDON THAT POOR PUN.
.
A BLIND OBSERVATION OF THE BARK
BEETLE A CATASTROPHE. WHICH WE
NOW KNOW HAS CLAIMED A HUNDRED
AND TWENTY NINE MILLION. TREES
WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT OF THREE
ROUND TRIPS TO THE MOON IF YOU
TAKE THOSE TREES A STACK COMMAND
AND THE OLD. BACK AND FORTH TO
THE MOON THREE TIMES.
IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN WE LOST TWO
MILLION TREES A MONTH.
BUT AS WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT THE
BARK BEETLE ISSUE WE REALIZED
THAT THAT WAS ONLY A SYMPTOM. OF
WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD TODAY HAVING
TO DO WITH THE MISMANAGEMENT.
AND NON MANAGEMENT OF THE
FOREST.
A THIRD OF OUR LAND MASS IN
CALIFORNIA'S FOREST FIFTY SEVEN
PERCENT OF THAT FORCED AREA IS
THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THIRTY SOME PERCENT IS IN
PRIVATE HANDS. AND.
SURPRISE I THINK TO MOST OF US.
CALIFORNIA ONLY IS RESPONSIBLE
OR OWNS ABOUT TWO PERCENT. OF
OUR FORCE THE REST OF ITS
FEDERAL AND PRIVATE HANDS WHICH
IS WHY A COLLABORATION IS REALLY
THE ONLY EFFECTIVE WAY THAT WE
ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE
OF THE MISMANAGEMENT. OF THE
FOREST. YOU'VE HEARD NUMBERS
THAT UP WITH A HEALTHY RESILIENT
FOREST HAS ANYWHERE BETWEEN.
THIRTY TO MAYBE EIGHTY TREES PER
ACRE WE HAVE SITES THAT HAVE AS
MANY AS THREE HUNDRED TO FOUR
HUNDRED. TREES PER ACRE THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THAT.
ARE THAT THE SAP LEANS CONSUME
MUCH MORE OF THE RESOURCE THAT
WOULD ORDINARILY GO TO MAKE THE
TREE. HEALTHIER THE SAPLINGS AS
WELL AS THE GROUND COVER BECOMES
FUEL BUT THEN SERVES AS A A
LADDER. THAT THAT HELPS THE FIRE
REACHED THE CROWNS OF THE TREES
AND ONCE IT REACHES THE CROWNS
OF THE TREES. THEN WE ALREADY
KNOW WHAT THE SIGNIFICANT
CONSEQUENCES TO THAT ARE. SO.
WITH THIS REPORT PROBABLY THE
THE THE MOST.
.
THE SENSATIONAL PART OF IT THAT
WAS CAPTURED BY THE MEDIA HAD TO
DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE LITTLE
HOOVER COMMISSION. FOUND IN ITS.
ONE YEAR LONG STUDY WITH
NUMEROUS EXPERT WITNESSES IN A
REVIEW OF THE LITERATURE THAT
QUITE FRANKLY. ONE OF THE MORE
IMMEDIATE STEPS THAT WE NEED TO
TAKE IN ORDER TO START TO BRING
ABOUT RESILIENT FORESTS ARE THE
PRESCRIBED BURNS.
THAT THE PRESCRIBED BURNS.
STORK LEE WE'RE SORT OF DONE ON
THEIR OWN THERE WAS A NATURAL
FIRES. THAT TOOK OUT THE KIND OF
GROWTH THAT WE FIND TO BE
ACTUALLY DETRIMENTAL. TO A
HEALTHY FOREST.
AND SO WE MAKE THAT AS ONE OF
OUR RECOMMENDATIONS SO YOU READ
A HEADLINE THAT SAYS FIGHT FIRE.
WITH FIRE. AND THE ECONOMIC
SIGNIFICANCE OF PRESCRIBED BURNS
IS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN AREAS THEY
CAN BE ABOUT A HUNDRED AND FORTY
FIVE DOLLARS PER ACRE. TO OUR
CONDUCT A PRESCRIBED BURN AS
COMPARED TO ALMOST EIGHT HUNDRED
DOLLARS AN ACRE WHEN YOU'RE
FIGHTING AS OLD AS A. WILDFIRE.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BUDGETING
IT REALLY IS PAY ME NOW OR PAY
ME LATER. IT INTELLIGENT
APPLICATION OF OUR RESOURCES TO
ENCOURAGE PRESCRIBED BURNS
ACTUAL RESULTS. IN SAVING OF
MONEY THAT WE NOW PUT OUT THE
DOOR AS WE EXPAND THAT TO TRY TO
DEAL WITH A WILD FIRE.
THE.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE END THE
RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR REPORT.
IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF DEALING
WITH THIS ISSUE IS A PUBLIC
EDUCATION CAMPAIGN. WHEN I WAS
IN OFFICE AND I SUPPOSE IT STILL
APPLIES YOU WOULD SAY YOU NEVER
WANT TO WASTE A GOOD CRISIS AND
SO WITH THE DROUGHT. WE HAD TO
THE SAVE OUR WATER CAMPAIGN THAT
WAS INITIATED BY THE WATER
RESOURCES BOARD AND BY WATER
DISTRICTS.
AND BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE NEVER
REALLY GAVE MUCH THOUGHT. TO
WHERE THEIR WATER CAME FROM THEY
WERE VERY CONTENT AND TOOK FOR
GRANTED THAT WE HAD ALL THE
WATER WE NEEDED WE ALWAYS WENT
WELL WE FOUND OUT THAT THAT'S
NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE.
BUT I THINK IN COORDINATION WITH
A WATER DISTRICTS AND WITH THE
WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD.
THERE WAS A PROGRAM THAT COST
ABOUT SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS. TO
EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT WATER.
WHERE IT COMES FROM HOW MUCH WE
NEEDED AND THAT WE'RE NOT ALWAYS
GOING TO HAVE IT AND THAT WE
HAVE TO CHANGE OUR BEHAVIOR IF
WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN OUR
LIFESTYLE IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA? WELL WE THINK THAT
WE SHOULD HAVE. THE SAME KIND OF
PROGRAM FOR THE FOREST.
WE HAD ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS
AS WE STARTED THE STUDY.
WHO WHO QUITE A WAS VERY FRANK
ABOUT IT HE SAYS WHY DO I CARE
ABOUT FOREST? I LIVE IN AN URBAN
AREA.
AND WE THOUGHT WELL YOU KNOW
THAT'S EXACTLY SYMPTOMATIC OF
WHY YOU NEED A PUBLIC EDUCATION
CAMPAIGN BECAUSE ONCE YOU BEGIN.
TO DELVE INTO THE ROLE OF THE
FORCE FOR CALIFORNIA YOU BEGIN
TO UNDERSTAND THAT SIXTY
PERCENT.
OF OUR.
HEAD WATER SOURCE OF WATER COMES
FROM THE FOREST IN CALIFORNIA
ONCE YOU BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND
THAT DRAMATIC.
THE SUPER FIRES THAT WE'VE BEEN
SUFFERING FROM. CONTRIBUTE TO
THE ELEVATION OF GREENHOUSE GAS
AND IT IS INHERENTLY UNFAIR.
TO ASK US AS CALIFORNIANS.
TO INVEST IN REDUCING GREENHOUSE
GAS BY CHANGE IN OUR BEHAVIORS
BY THE SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE
ARE DOING WHICH ARE ADMIRABLE
AND I. INSIST SHOULD BE DONE.
SO THAT IN TWENTY FIFTEEN
WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE DID WE
REDUCED OUR GREENHOUSE GAS BY
ABOUT ONE POINT FIVE MILLION
TONS. AND WE SHOULD BE THANKFUL
FOR THAT HOWEVER. THE RUFF FIRE.
GAVE US SIX POINT EIGHT MILLION
TONS.
OF GREENHOUSE GAS NOT TO MENTION
THE IMPACT OF PARTICULATE
MATTER.
HONOR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS OF
YOUNG AND SENIORS. THESE FOREST
FIRES GENERATE THE TWO POINT PM
TWO POINT FIVE. NOT THE PM TEN
IS THE PM TWO POINT FIVE WHY
DOES THAT MATTER BECAUSE IT GOES
TO YOUR LAUNCHES PASSES THROUGH
YOUR ALEY OFF. AND IT THEN
BECOMES A PART OF YOUR
BLOODSTREAM LEADING TO LONG TERM
PHYSICAL CONDITIONS SO. YOU LIVE
IN CALIFORNIA YOU MAY NOT LIVE
BY FORCE BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT
MATTERS BECAUSE OF YOUR WATER IT
MATTERS BECAUSE OF YOUR AIR.
CREDIT MUST BE GIVEN TO THE
GOVERNOR FOR THE CREATION OF THE
TREE MORTALITY TASK FORCE WE SEE
THAT AS A MODEL NOW THAT HE'S
ANNOUNCED THAT HIS STATE OF THE
STATE. ABOUT A FORCE MANAGEMENT
TASK FORCE. THERE ARE MANY MANY
LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE TREE
MORTALITY TASKFORCE THAT CAN
JUST TRANSITION RIGHT OVER INTO
A FORCE MANAGEMENT. OF TASK
FORCE PEOPLE HAVE. COME TO LEARN
TO TRUST EACH OTHER THEY'RE
ABOUT EIGHTY ORGANIZATIONS AND
STAKEHOLDERS ARE A PART OF THAT
TREE MORTALITY TASK FORCE.
THEY GOT SOME SOLUTIONS THAT
THEY WORKED ON THEY HAVE
RELATIONSHIPS ALL I GOTTA DO IS
JUST MOVE THAT OVER ONE SIDE TO
THE OTHER GIVE THEMSELVES A NEW
NAME.
AND CONTINUE WITH THE GOOD WORK
THAT THEY'RE DOING AND WITH THAT
AND GIVEN THAT THE LATENESS OF
THE HOUR ABOUT FOLLOWED TO FOR
TWO OF MY OTHER PANELISTS.
FOR HIS BREAK WITH THE YOU ARE
CHAIRMAN NOVEL WILL HEAR NEXT
FROM GREG CRAIG THOMAS
CONSERVATION DIRECTOR SIERRA
FOREST LEGACY. THANK YOU FOR
BEING WITH US.
AND.
THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU
FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THE
INVITATION I REALLY APPRECIATE
IT.
.
AIRFORCE LEGACIES BEEN AROUND.
ABOUT TWENTY TWO YEARS NOW ON
OUR PRIMARY PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON
FOUR FEDERAL FOREST POLICY AND
THE NEXUS OF.
THINGS THAT REACH THE WHOLE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA VERTICALLY
FIRE POLICY SO THAT'S WHERE I
SPEND MORE TIME TODAY THAN EVER
SINCE.
AND I WANT TO.
.
I WANT TO JUST ADD.
THANKS FOR THE WORK THAT.
CHAIRMAN NAVA AND HIS STAFF
PARTICULARLY IS EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE OF THE.
HOOVER COMMISSION CAROL DELIA
WHO PASSED AWAY RIGHT AT THE END
OF THE RAP OF THIS DOCUMENT. AND
TO THE STAFF TO EVERYBODY
INVOLVED IN THAT JUST AN
OUTSTANDING LEVEL OF RIGOR IN
THE DEPTHS AND THE DETAIL ON THE
LEVEL OF IN QUERY IN THE FIELD
TRIPS AND EVERYTHING THAT DID
THIS IS GOVERNMENT DOING REALLY
GOOD WORK RIGHT HERE.
AND IT'S IT'S IT REALLY DOES
POINT TO A PATH FORWARD AND.
PRIMARY TOPIC FOR ME TODAY IS.
REESTABLISHING FIRE AS A KEY
PART OF FOREST MANAGEMENT
ENFORCE RESILIENCE IN
CALIFORNIA.
I GET.
I WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME
TALKING ABOUT THE PAST BUT I I
WANT TO ADD TO WHAT CHAIRMAN
NAMA SAID IS THAT WE.
IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT
MISMANAGEMENT THEN WE NEED TO
START THE CONVERSATION BACK TO A
HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS AGO.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE
POPULATION THAT WAS ENTERING
CALIFORNIA.
OR THE GOLD RUSH THE MISSIONS
WERE REMOVING NATIVE AMERICANS
AND THEIR ACTIVE BURNING THEIR
ACTIVE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. WAS
REPLACED BY A DIFFERENT VISION
RATHER BRUTALLY AND A GOLD RUSH
IT EVEN GOT MORE BRUTAL BUT WHAT
WE DID THERE WAS RE REMOVED.
THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF ACTIVE
FIRE USE BOTH THERE WAS
LIGHTNING AND NATIVE AMERICAN
BURNING THAT WE TURNED OFF LIKE
A LIGHT SWITCH HER TRIED TO
THANKFULLY WE FAILED BECAUSE
THEY'RE STILL ACTIVE NATIVE
AMERICAN BURNERS IN CALIFORNIA
TODAY.
AND AS WE MOVE INTO THE EARLY
NINETEEN HUNDREDS WE GOT INTO AN
ERA FIRE SUPPRESSION. THAT HAS
REMAINED PRETTY INTENSE AND I
YOU KNOW I THINK WE'RE WE'RE
NEVER GONNA NOT NEED SUPPRESSION
IN CALIFORNIA. BECAUSE WE HAVE
FORTY MILLION PEOPLE AND WE'RE
MOVING INTO AN ERA OF. OF MORE
CLIMATE DRIVEN. SCENARIOS AND
INTENSIFY OUR FIRES.
BUT WE AT THE SAME TIME NEED TO
RECOGNIZE WHEN THESE ECOLOGICAL
MISTAKES HAPPEN IT STARTED A
LONG TIME AGO.
AND THANKFULLY TO THE FRIEND OF
MY LEFT EAR DOCTOR STEVENS AND
HIS COLLEAGUES THAT MEN READING
ABOUT THIS FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS
THAT I KNOW OF.
REALLY POUNDING ON THE DOOR TO
GET TO POLICYMAKERS AND LAND
MANAGED HIS MANAGERS TO SAY YOU
HAVE TO BRING FIRE BACK INTO THE
SYSTEM. HUNDREDS CALIFORNIA
EXTREMELY FIRE ASSOCIATED IT'S
THE NATURAL SYSTEM. IT OPERATES
IN DOES HUGE ECOLOGICAL BENEFITS
LIKE PRECIPITATION.
IT'S NOT SOME SIDELIGHT WE'VE
TRIED TO DRIVE IT AWAY IT'S
COMING BACK NOW THE EMBERS ARE
COMING HOME TO ROOST. SO I JUST
WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS
STARTED A LONG TIME AGO.
AND WE'RE A LOT SMARTER NOW AND
NOW IS THE TIME TO CHANGE THAT
PICTURE AND GET FIRED BACK INTO
THE SYSTEM.
SO I'M GONNA SPEAK VERY QUICKLY
TOO FEW POINTS AND STARTING AT
THE COMMUNITY IN WORKING OUT TO
THE WILD LANDS.
SO.
AND I WANT TO REFERENCE SENATOR
JACKSON'S BILL SP TWELVE SIXTY
BECAUSE IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE.
.
VERY INTERESTING AND
COMPREHENSIVE BILL IT'S IN THE
HOPPER RIGHT NOW THAT WE ALL I
BELIEVE NEED TO. FOCUS ON AND
HELP REFINE AND THERE'S OTHER
GOOD.
PIECES OF LEGISLATION NOW IS
COMING FORWARD TO DO A FIRE. IN
THIS IS OUR YEAR THIS IS THE
TIME TO REALLY MAKE THOSE
CHANGES AND. AND GET US WHERE WE
NEED TO BE.
SO WE HAVE A DISPENSABLE
DEFENSIBLE SPACE REQUIREMENT
FORTY TWO NINETY ONE AND AND
I'VE GOT ATTACHMENTS HERE I
DIDN'T COPY EVERYTHING I WANT TO
SAY PAPER AND SO I'M. TRYING TO
BE DIGITAL BUT I'VE GOT HIM ON A
FLASH DRIVE SO YOU CAN SHARE
THAT WITH STAFF WOULD APPRECIATE
IT THEN YOU'LL HAVE MALL.
WE HAVE THAT DISCIPLINE
DEFENSIBLE SPACE REQUIREMENT.
IT'S NOT BEING IN PAIN IN SPITE
OF ALL INSPECTIONS CAL FIRES
DOES TO THEIR CREDIT THERE'S A
HUGE AMOUNT ACRES WERE PEOPLE
AREN'T DOING MUCH AND WE NEED TO
REAFFIRM THAT. THAT IS NO
DIFFERENT THAN A STOPLIGHT WE
NEED TO OBEY THE LAW.
AND DO WHAT IT SAYS TO DO
PARTICULARLY WHEN WE LIVE IN A
RURAL FOREST LANDSCAPES MORE
THAN ANYWHERE ELSE. TO GET THAT
DEFENSIBLE SPACE ACCOMPLISHED.
A VERY GOOD WAY TO DOING
SOMETHING I PARTICIPATED IN
YEARS AGO WAS THAT FIRE WAS
COMMUNITIES USA PROGRAM
ANNOUNCES FIREFLIES USA. BECAUSE
IT TAKES THOSE IDEAS OF OF HOME
PROTECTION AND DEFENSIBLE SPACE
BUT IT BRINGS EVERYBODY IN THE
COMMUNITY TOGETHER AT ONCE SO
YOU'RE NOT GOING DOOR TO DOOR
HOUSE TO HOUSE. YOU GIVE HIM A
HUNDRED PEOPLE TOGETHER.
A BREAKFAST AT THE FIRE HOUSE
FOR YOUR COMMUNITY BUILDING BUT
YOU HAVE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE
THAT ARE CERTIFIED. FIRE WISE
TRAINERS IN YOU TAKES THE
COMMUNITY THROUGH THAT PROCESS
THROUGH A NUMBER OF WEEKS UNTIL
YOU CAN STAND UP AND SAY THIS
COMMUNITY IS NOW CERTIFIED. AND
THAT MEAN WHAT THAT MEANS IS TO
LIVE THROUGH A FIRE.
WITHOUT AN ENGINE EVEN IF AN
ENGINE CAN'T MAKE IT TO YOUR DR
LAWYER TO YOUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE
IT'S HAPPENING ALL YOU KNOW A
BIG EVENT. YOU HAVE DONE THE
WORK TO WHERE YOUR HOME AND YOUR
YOU KNOW BELONGING SURVIVE
WITHOUT THAT SUPPORT EVEN SO
WE'RE TALKIN RIGOR. IN TERMS OF
TREATMENTS TO GET THAT FIRE
HARDENING AND VEGETATION
CONTROL.
AND THERE'S A LINK HERE IN THE
PRESENTATION THAT IT'S GOT A
REALLY GOOD INFORMATION THE NEXT
STEP OUT AS THE DEFENSE ON IT'S
A QUARTER MILE AROUND
COMMUNITIES. OWNED BY EITHER
IT'S PRIVATE LANDLORDS PUBLICLY
OWNED LAND IN ENSURING THAT THAT
LANDSCAPE THAT QUARTER MILE AS
IT IS TREATED AND MAINTAINED.
THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT
HASN'T HAPPENED. ON THE EYE
WITNESS A LOT. OF ACTIVITY ON
PROP PRIVATE LOOK ON PUBLIC
LAND.
I GUESS I DIFFER FROM SOME OF
THE OTHER FOLKS I SEE A LOT OF
ACTIVITY OVER THE LAST TWENTY
YEARS IT'S A HUGE AMOUNT ACRES.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP
IT'S PRETTY STUNNING ABOUT HOW
MUCH HS BEEN DONE. THEM FOR
DIFFERENT REASONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY DRIVEN BY FUELS
REDUCTION.
BUT.
IN MY BACKYARD THE KING FIRE.
HUNDRED THOUSAND ACRES FIFTY OF
THOSE THOUSAND ACRES IN SIX
HOURS.
NOT THE KIND OF FIRE WHAT I'M
TALKING ABOUT NOT THE KIND WE
WANT TO SEE. BUT THAT WHOLE
HUNDRED THOUSAND ROUGHLY HUNDRED
THOUSAND ACRE FOOT PRINT HAD
SEEN NO PRESCRIBED BURNING
BROADCAST BURNING ON THAT
LANDSCAPE SINCE NINETEEN OH
EIGHT.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S
MISSING IN THIS PICTURE IT'S THE
REINTRODUCTION OF FIRE AS A
RESTORATION TO.
IT'S NOT THAT THOSE OTHER THINGS
DON'T HAPPEN.
A LOT OF PLACES ARE PRETTY SCARY
TO THINK WE CAN DO A FIRST ENTRY
BURN AROUND THE COMMUNITY
PARTICULAR AROUND COMMUNITIES
THERE NEEDS TO BE. MECHANICAL
TREATMENTS WORKING WITH FIRE BUT
FIRES A PRIMARY MAINTENANCE TOOL
ONCE YOU GET TO THAT RESILIENCE.
AND THAT IS SO THAT POINTS TO
THE PROBLEM I BELIEVE.
AND. WE ALSO IN TERMS OF
COMMUNITY PROTECTION IF THINGS
NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD TO DO
THE WORK AND SO WE'RE
CONVERSATIONS WITHIN.
.
IN THIS BUILDING IN A VARIETY OF
OFFICES CAN WE OFFER A LOW
INTEREST REVOLVING LOAN PROCESS
WHERE PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER
DISABLED OR. ARE LOW INCOME OR
ELDERLY CAN TAP INTO SOMETHING
THAT WILL HELP THEM GET THAT
WORK ACCOMPLISHED THAT ALONE
WOULD STAY ON THE BOOKS. UNTIL
THEY PAY IT OFF UNTIL THE HOME.
IT'S IT'S THERE IS A.
.
FORGET WHAT YOU CALL IT BUT IT'S
A IT IN STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY
UNTIL IT'S PAID OFF BUT YOU CAN
GET THAT WORK DONE.
AND I PERSONALLY I YOU KNOW I
DID MY OWN PARCEL TWENTY FIVE
YEARS AGO I MEANT TO DO
MAINTAINED DEFENSIBLE SPACE
THERE ALL THAT TIME. IT WASN'T
THAT HARD TO DO. YOU HAVE TO
MAINTAIN IT.
ON THE SECOND LEVEL OF PUBLIC
EDUCATION WITH EVERYBODY'S
TALKED ABOUT IT IT'S REALLY.
.
I THINK.
BEING INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE LANDSCAPE
THEY LIVE IN.
WE WE'VE PRETTY MUCH TRIED TO
PUSH FIRE OFF ON THE SIDE BUT.
WHEN I STARTED READING. DOCTOR
STEVENS WORK AND OTHERS
PARTICULARLY AT TWO THOUSAND
SEVEN PAPER THAT HE DID LOOKING
AT WHAT WAS FIRE BUT LIKE IN
EIGHTEEN HUNDREDS LOOKING AT
EMISSIONS AND THE VEGETATION
THAT EXISTS. IN CALIFORNIA AND
HOW FREQUENT THIS FIRE BURNING
IN THOSE LANDSCAPES. AND HE
OFFERED A NUMBER OF ROUGHLY FOUR
AND A HALF MILLION ACRES A YEAR
WAS BURNING UNDER THE NATURAL
FIRE REGIMES COUPLED WITH THE
NATIVE AMERICAN BURNING THAT WAS
GOING. THAT WAS A LIE AND IT'S
NOT EIGHTEEN HUNDRED ANYMORE.
BUT WE STILL HAVE A HUGE
EXPANSES OF FORCE IN CALIFORNIA
AND THEY'RE STILL VERY STRONGLY
TIED. TO FREQUENT FIRE REGIMES.
AND THAT ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO
RECOGNIZE AND LEARN TO LIVE WITH
BY BRINGING FIRE BACK IN THE
SYSTEM.
FIRE EXCLUSION I MENTIONED
BEFORE STARTED A LONG TIME AGO
IS A GREAT PAPER THAT I INCLUDED
HERE BY DOCTOR ALAN TAYLOR. HE'S
LOOKING AT THIS CLIMATE REALLY
DRIVING IT OR IS PAST ACTIONS
AND FIRE EXCLUSION REALLY
DRIVING IN AND THEY BASICALLY
SAID AND SCOTT WAS ON THAT PAPER
TO YOU. IS THAT YOU KNOW THE
PROBLEMS STARTED TWO HUNDRED
PLUS YEARS AGO. AND NOW IS.
REALLY BAD THERE'S A LOT OF IN
GROSS BUT IT'S BEING EXACERBATED
BY CLIMATE CHANGE BUT IT'S NOT
THE PREDOMINANT DRIVERS WHAT
WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST CENTURY
TWO CENTURIES.
NOW WORSENING BECAUSE OF CLIENT
INTERACTION CLIMATE WARMING.
REALLY STUNNING.
PIECE OF.
RESEARCH WHEN I WROTE IT.
.
LIVING WITH FIRE IS A CONCEPT
IT'S USED A LOT IN THE. IN THE
FIRE COMMUNITY AN OB PASSES
AROUND IT.
.
MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THIS IS A.
THING THAT WE'VE CREATED WITH
THE FOREST SERVICE WITH CAL
FIRE.
WITH HIS HEARING ABOUT THE
CONSERVANCY WITH UNIVERSITY
CALIFORNIA.
CALIFORNIA FORESTRY ASSOCIATION
AS A PARTNER LOTS OF NGOS NATURE
CONSERVANCY.
WE ARE CO FOUNDERS OF IT'S
CALLED THE FIRE AMMO YOU
PARTNERSHIP IN THE PURPOSE IS TO
INCREASE THE USE OF FIRE FOR
ECOLOGICAL AND OTHER.
MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVES SO IT'S A
VERY INTERESTING THIS TWENTY
SEVEN PARTNERS WE EVEN HAVE.
THEIR MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS
JOINING NOW WHICH IS OUTSTANDING
MEANS WERE GOING ACROSS THE
DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES AND PEOPLE
FROM BOTH THEIR REGULATOR AND
THE FIRE MANAGER COMMUNITIES.
ARE SAYING WE GET THIS WE'VE GOT
TO WORK TOGETHER TO INCREASE
FIRE USE AND PROTECT PUBLIC
HEALTH IT'S JUST BEEN AN
OUTSTANDING EXPERIENCE TO SEE
THE LEVEL OF COMMITMENT AND
PARTICIPATION IN PARTNERSHIP
THAT THAT EMMA YOU IS DRIVING.
.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FIRE FIRE
REGIME IN FIRE FREQUENCY IS THE
WAY TO UNDERSTAND FIRE IN
CALIFORNIA AND FIRE SCIENTISTS
HAVE BEEN WRITING ABOUT THIS FOR
AWHILE THAT THE VEGETATION IS
VERY MUCH TIED TO A FRIED EGG
FIRE FREQUENCY. AND INTENSITY OF
FIRE ON BASES BASIS IT VERY
DIFFERENTLY IN ELEVATION AND
DIFFERENT VEGETATION TYPES.
GETTING A HOLD OF THAT AND
UNDERSTANDING THAT INFORMATION
IS REALLY CRITICAL TO
UNDERSTANDING FIRE IN
CALIFORNIA.
IS ALSO AN ISSUE OF CONSTRAINTS
WITCHES.
THAT WE LIVE IN A MOUNTAIN
RANGE AMOUNT NECESSARY IN A LOT
OF CALIFORNIA IT'S VERY STEEP
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROADS
THERE AND IT'S A PRIMARY
CONSTRAINT. FOR MECHANICAL.
REMOVAL OF TREES. EVEN IF WE
WERE DOING PERFECT LAND
MANAGEMENT YOU CAN'T GET TOO
MANY OF THOSE ACRES IN SOME
PLACES IT'S ROUGHLY SEVENTEEN
PERCENT OF THE ACRES ARE
REACHABLE OTHER PLACES IT'S
ROUGHLY FIFTY PERCENT IN THE
SIERRA NEVADA. IS A HUGE AMOUNT
ACRES OR NOT REACHABLE IF WE
DON'T HAVE AN ACTIVE FIRE
PROGRAM.
THAT'S ALSO AN ATTACHMENT THAT
INCLUDED.
SOIN TERMS OF NEEDS AND CHANGE
IN WHAT WE NEED OVER INTO A
COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE DONE
HERE. IS THAT.
IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR
PRESCRIBED BURNS.
THE THE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WERE
KICKING AROUND IS IS IT.
IS IT ARE WE ABLE TO LIMIT THE.
CHARGES THAT THEIR DISTRICTS
CHARGE THE FIRE COMMUNITY TO
DEAL WITH THE SMOKE MANAGEMENT
PLANS CAN CAN THE STATE STEP IN
AND HELP RELIEVE THAT SO MORE OF
THE MONEY THAT GETS CHARGED TO
THE PRACTITIONERS CAN GO TO WORK
ON THE GROUND. AND THAT DOESN'T
MEAN WE WON'T DO SMOKE
MANAGEMENT WE WILL DO IT BUT CAN
WE CAN WE USE. GRANT FUNDS OR
OTHER VEHICLES WE HAVE IN
CALIFORNIA AND BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT SOME OF THOSE BURNED
FEES AND TAKE THEM OUT OF THE.
BUDGET PRESSURE IN COUNTY
GOVERNMENT STILL GET THE WORK
DONE. BUT IF WE GET MORE ACRES
AND THAT HAS A. MAJOR BENEFIT
ACROSS THE STATE TO THAT'S ONE
THING WE'RE KICKING AROUND THE
OTHER THE FIRE PEOPLE TELL ME
OVER AND OVER AGAIN AS WE NEED
LONGER BURNED WINDOWS. WHEN THEY
GET PERMISSION TO BURN AND THEY
SAY THEY WANT TO DO A LARGER
LANDSCAPE BURN WHICH IS WHAT'S
GOING TO TAKE TO GET US ANYWHERE
AND THEY BRING DOWN A CON TRICK
CONTRACT CREW. AND TEY GET A
TWENTY FOUR HOUR BURN WINDOW AND
THEN IT SHUTS DOWN THE NEXT DAY
THEY'VE LOST A HUGE AMOUNT OF
MONEY. SO WE'RE WE'RE TALKING
WITH THEIR REGULATORS AND FIRE
MANAGED TO SAY AS OUR WAY WE CAN
WORK ON WHEN THE METEOROLOGY IS
LOOKING GOOD CAN WE GET A WEEK'S
WORTH OF TIME. AND NOT JUST
TWENTY FOUR HOUR PERIODS AND CAN
WE MONITOR THAT WILL MAKE SURE
THE COMMUNITY'S KNOWS SMOKE'S
COMING THEIR WAY WHAT TO DO TO
PROTECT HIMSELF BUT CAN WE GET
LONGER WINDOWS.
.
ALL WIND UP AS TWO MORE THINGS
HERE SO THE THE MONITORING
MODELING AND MESSAGING I'VE GOT
A HAND OUT FOR YOU ALL HERE THAT
THAT IS. A. VERY POSITIVE
SCIENCE SPACE PATHWAY TO MOVE
FORWARD INSTEAD OF. CHARGING AND
MONITORING ACRES BURNED WE
MONITOR THE ACTUAL ADMISSIONS
THE PLUME THAT LEAVES STATS FOR
THE HARM IS WHEN THERE IS HARM.
IT'S NOT AN ACRE THAT'S CAUSING
HARM IT'S THE MISSIONS AGO UP.
SO SOME MONITORING SMOKY USING
SMOKE MODELS TO BETTER PREDICT
WITH HIS POEMS ARE GOING SO WE
CAN OFFER AIR ADVISORIES THAT
ARE REALLY SAYS THINK ABOUT
WHERE THE SMOKE IS GOING TO GO.
IS YEAH I THINK A FANTASTIC IDEA
IN INCREASING THAT MONITORING TO
GET MORE OF THE SWEATER CALLED
HE BANYAN ANSWER LOOK HER UP.
YOU KNOW HUMAN SIZE ALMOST AIR
MONITORS THAT PICK UP PM TWO
POINT FIVE AND GIVE ACCURATE
DATA READING THIS RATHER THAN
AND MODELED ASSUMPTION OF WHAT
IT IS OUT IN THE WORLD ACTUALLY
CAPTURES. THE PM PARTICLES AND
CAN TELL YOU THE READ OUT THAT
SO WE KNOW WHAT IT IS WHEN I
HAVE TO GUESS.
VERY POSITIVE THING TO MOVE
FORWARD.
I'M ABSOLUTELY FINE I'LL JUST
SAID THAT. WHEN. SKIS ME WE NEED
TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE ACRES
ARE BURNING IN CALIFORNIA WE
NEED TO SHOP. SOL IN IT THERE
THANK YOU.
MISTER THOMAS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
PROFESSOR STEVENS THE BENEFIT OF
BEING THE THIRD PANELIST. ON THE
THIRD PANEL OF THE DAY IS
HOPEFUL YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY
HERE ALL THE TESTIMONY BEFORE
YOU. AND IF YOU REFUTED ALL YOU
EAT YOUR STATEMENTS WILL BE WHAT
I REMEMBER. SO THAT'S THE POWER
OF BEING THE FINAL PANELIST I
APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF SCOTT
STEVENS PROFESSOR UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA BERKELEY THANK YOU
FOR BEING WITH US.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE
AGAIN TODAY AND I WANTED THAT.
KIND OF ALSO COMMENT ABOUT THE
LITTLE HOOVER COMMISSION REPORT
THAT CRACK ALSO MENTION HE
CHAIRMAN LED I THINK IS THE BEST
REPORT I'VE SEEN IN TWENTY YEARS
PLAN AND REALLY THE STATE IN
TERMS OF. FORCING KIND OF HITS
THE POINTS REALLY CLEARLY KIND
OF THE ACTION THE IDEAS IT IT'S
REALLY KIND OF.
PLAINLY WRITTEN WHICH IS GREAT
BECAUSE IT JUST SHOWS MAYBE THAT
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE
AND MAYBE SOME OF THE URGENCY
NOW. BUT I THINK IT WAS A WELL
REALLY WELL DONE PIECE.
JUST FOR A MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT
A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH STUDIES
HAVE HAPPENED IT KIND OF HELPS
US MAYBE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE
MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IT MA'AM
I'VE DONE A. FAIR AMOUNT OF FIRE
RESEARCH COLLEAGUES HAVE DONE
OTHERS. AND WE'VE DONE SOME WORK
TRY TO SHOW IF YOU CAN DO A
PRESCRIBED FIRES.
PEOPLE ALLUDED TO INCLUDING
CRACK YOU KNOW. CAN YOU ACTUALLY
DO WORK MECHANICALLY MUCH FOR
STANDING MAYBE DO A FORCED THING
OPERATION THEN BURN. ARE WE
GONNA SEE MAYBE POTENTIAL
NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES
ECOLOGICALLY MIGHT WE HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH. BARK BEETLES OR
MAYBE SOIL COMPACTION OR MAYBE
IN SEOUL NUTRIENTS VEGETATION
RESPONSE.
THE RESEARCH. IS REALLY CLEAR
HERE THE RESEARCH SHOWS THERE IS
KNOWN ALMOST NO NEGATIVE
IMPACTS.
IT REALLY DOES SAY THAT YOU CAN
WORK WITH FORCE THAT ARE
ACTUALLY FIRE SUPPRESSION IN BAD
CONDITION. YOU CAN MANAGE TO
THEM YOU CAN ACTUALLY YOU KNOW
DO PRESCRIBE FIRED DUE TO
MECHANICAL TREATMENTS DO
SOMETHINGS IN COMBINATION AND
THE RESEARCH IS VERY CLEAR THAT
ALMOST NO NATIVE NEGATIVE
CONSEQUENCES IN SOME CASES MAYBE
A SLIGHT INCREASE IN NON NATIVE
HERBACEOUS PLANTS IN THE
UNDERSTOREY. SOMETHING YOU HAVE
TO MONITOR I THINK IT JUST GIVES
US.
AN IDEA THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO DO
THE WORK THATI THINK A LOT OF
FOLKS. TALKED ABOUT HERE TODAY
WE CAN ACTUALLY DO IT AND FEEL
THAT THE RESEARCH IS ACTUALLY
SUPPORTING THAT.
ANOTHER THING WE LOOK AT IS
WATER YOU KNOW OF COURSE IT'S
RAINING OUT TODAY THE BIG RAIN
DAY BUT WE'RE ALMOST FEELS LIKE
ANOTHER DROUGHT. IN RESEARCH AS
BEEN SHOWN THAT WE WORKED ON AND
OTHERS HAVE WORKED ON SOMETIMES
YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET FORCED
RESILIENCY AND ACTUALLY CLIMATE
CHANGE BENEFITS IN TERMS OF.
KEEPING CARBON ON THE FORCE
VERSUS HAVING ADMITTED THROUGH
FIRE THROUGH INSECT OR MORTALITY
YOU CATCH HIM UP A WATER BENEFIT
WHERE WATER COMING OUT OF WATER
SURGES EITHER ENHANCE OR STABLE
IN A CHANGING CLIMATE. SO I
THINK THERE ARE WAYS YOU CAN
KIND OF THINK ABOUT BOTH WATER
FORCE CARBON TOGETHER AND
THEY'RE COMPLEMENTARY. THEY CAN
WORK TOGETHER AND I THINK WATER
IF ANYTHING TO BE THE BIGGEST
NOW TO RESOURCE IN THE STATES
PROBABLY ALREADY THERE.
I THINK I PROVIDED A HAND OUT TO
YOU ABOUT FLORIDA IN NOT TO SAY
THAT FLORIDA HAS EVERYTHING
RIGHT BUT. WHEN WE LOOK AT FIRE
PREVENTION IN TERMS OF BURNING
FOREST AND TRYING TO DO KIND OF.
THE WORK TODAY THAT PREVENTS THE
BIG FIRES IN THE FUTURE. FLORIDA
BY FAR AND INTERVIEW NINE STATES
HAS DONE THE MOST WORK. I'M I
WAS AT A CONFERENCE LAST YEAR
GOT TO MEET THE.
HEAD OF THE FLORIDA FOR SERVICE.
HE JUST SPOKE ABOUT SOME OF THE
LAWS ACTUALLY THE STATE LEVEL
THAT REALLY FACILITATED THAT AND
THEY BURNED ONE POINT TWO
MILLION ACRES OF FOREST IN
FLORIDA LAST YEAR. ONE POINT TWO
MILLION ACRES THAT IS A
PHENOMENAL NUMBER. AND THEY'VE
DONE THAT WITH A HUGE WE WE
WHILE AT URBAN INTERFACE.
HEALTH ISSUES. IT'S NOT THE
SAME AS THEM CHAIRMAN PITT A LOT
SAID IT'S NOT THE SAME AS
CALIFORNIA HE'S ABSOLUTELY
CORRECT BUT WHEN I SEE WHAT
FLORIDA DOES WITH ONE POINT TWO
MILLION ACRES. IT GIVES ME A
LITTLE HOPE. GETS REAL HOPE THAT
WE CAN ACTUALLY THEN MAYBE DO A
LITTLE BIT BETTER AND I I HAVE
TO COMPLIMENT.
A LOT AS THE HEAD OF KALIFORNIA.
IN MY CAREER TWENTY FIVE YEARS
HE'S THE MOST PROGRESSIVE
FORWARD LOOKING PERSON LOOKING.
LONGER TERM IN TERMS OF FIRE AND
DYNAMICS AND REALLY IS TRYING TO
FOCUS ON TRYING TO DO MORE
PREVENTION WORK IT'S EGINNING.
BUT IT'S STILL I THINK HE'S GOT
REALLY GOT GOING FOR THE RIGHT
DIRECTION BUT THE THREE LAWS OF
FLORIDA ACTUALLY PASSED TO
FACILITATE IT WAS ONE. PRESCRIBE
FIRE WAS A LAND RIGHT.
MAYBE NOT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT
COMMITTEE FOR THAT BUT IN
FLORIDA.
IT'S ACTUALLY A RIGHT TO BURN
YOUR LAND IS SOMEONE ADJACENT TO
YOU OR SOMEONE ELSE CAN DO SAY
ARBITRARILY YOU CAN'T DO IT.
NOTHING THEY DID THEY PROVIDED
LIMITED LIABILITY COVERAGE FOR
BURNERS THAT ACTUALLY IF YOU HAD
A PLAN THAT WAS CERTIFIED AND
YOU EXECUTED THE PLANNED
INSPECTIONS YOUR ABILITY HAD A
PROBLEM. YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE
HELD PERSONALLY LIABLE GROSS
NEGLIGENCE IS STILL LIABILITY IF
YOU DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE YOUR
PLAN DO SOMETHING FOOLISH HE CAN
BE FOUND GROSSLY NEGLIGENT BIKA
HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
THE LAST THING THEY DID IS THEY
ACTUALLY PROVIDED TRAINING AND
CERTIFICATION FOR PRESCRIBED. SO
PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET CERTIFIED
AND TRAINED IN THE ART AND
SCIENCE OF PRESCRIBED FIRE AND
THEY HAVE TO DO IT ON THE LAND.
IN FLORIDA AMAZINGLY TWO THIRDS
OF THE ACRES BURNED EVERY YEAR
ON PRIVATE LAND. ESPECIALLY NOT
STATE OR FEDERAL IT'S ALL
PRIVATE. SO PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
CERTIFIED THEY PASSED DOWN WHAT
THEY'VE LEARNED TO OTHERS. YOU
KNOW IT'S A GENERATIONAL THING
MEANT COURSE WE'RE GONNA DO
BETTER HERE CAN TAKE A LITTLE
TIME AND NO DOUBT THERE'S GOING
TO BE MISTAKES. I'VE HAD
PRESCRIBED FIRES RIBON THE BURN
BOSS I'VE MADE MISTAKES AND
FIRES A GOTTEN OUT OF HAND
NOTHING TERRIBLE BUT WE'VE LOST
FIRES HAD TO SUPPRESS SOME. SO
WE CAN BEGIN TO START TO MOVE
FORWARD TO START TO GET MORE FAR
ON THE LAND LIKE WE KNOW
POLITICALLY WE JUST GOT TO HAVE
THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE
ABLE MAKE MISTAKES AND ACTUALLY
LEARN KEEP MOVING. IT JUST CAN'T
SHUT THE WHOLE THING DOWN.
SO I DO THINK WE CAN LEARN FROM
SOME OF THINGS BORDERS DONE TO
HELP US. THE LAST THING ON TALK
ABOUT TODAY IS I THINK IT
ACTUALLY GOES A LITTLE BIT TO
WHAT THE SHERIFF ROBERTSON JUST
MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO EST IS
PEOPLE CENTERED KIND OF
SOLUTIONS.
AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT URBAN
INTERFACE FIRES UNFORTUNATELY
BURNING HOUSES EVEN WORSE
KILLING PEOPLE AND YOU THINK
ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO. I THINK
ONE THING WE CAN DO IS BETTER
OUT REACH TO PEOPLE JUST LIKE
THE THE SHERIFF SAID WE'RE NOT
PUBLIC COMMUNICATING TO PEOPLE
AS WELL AS WE COULD. AND AND.
YET AND I THINK WE'RE CERTAINLY
SOME GROUPS ARE DOING THIS THE
FIRE WISE COMMUNITIES IS CORRECT
MENTIONED AND OTHERS.
ONE THING WE'VE DONE IN
CALIFORNIA AS WE HAVE AN
OUTREACH PROGRAM THAT CAN BE
ASSOCIATED WITH LIKE UNIVERSITY
CALIFORNIA OR CAN BE SOCIALLY
WITH THE ARM. RESOURCE
CONSERVATION DISTRICTS THERE ARE
PEOPLE THAT LITERALLY THEIR JOB
IS TO TAKE INFORMATION AND
EXTENDED TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN
COMMUNITIES. AND THEY LIVE IN
THE COMMUNITIES THAT COULD BE
INVENTOR OR THEY CAN BE A LOS
ANGELES RIVERSIDE THEY COULD BE
IN LAKE COUNTY. THESE FOLKS
BASICALLY IT WOULDN'T LIVE IN
COMMUNITIES AND ACTUALLY OUT
REACH INFORMATION TO CITY
PLANNERS TO MAYBE. BORDER
SUPERVISORS MAYBE TO A FIRE SAFE
COUNCIL BUT THEY'RE THERE AND
THEY'RE ACTUALLY EMPLOYED
PERMANENTLY TO DO IT THIS IS
THEIR JOB RIGHT NOT JUST TRYING
TO MAYBE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE
VOLUNTEERING DOING GREAT JOBS
BUT. CAN'T REALLY COVER
EVERYTHING SO THIS IDEA OUT
REACHING DOING THAT DELIBERATELY
IN THE FIRE AREA THAT'S NOT
SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER.
EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE
TECHNOLOGY. WE COULD ACTUALLY DO
SOME MORE MAGIC. DIRECTOR OF
BOMB CALIFORNICA AND TALKED
ABOUT MAYBE TRYING TO SENSE
FIRES MORE EFFICIENTLY AND THEY
GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION TO
PEOPLE TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS
SO I WOULD SAY. I'M HOPEFUL YOU
KNOW I DON'T FIRE SOMETIMES
REALLY.
TEXAS AROUND THERE'S NO DOUBT
I'VE BEEN ON FIRE AS I LIVED IN
NAPA GROUP NAP I SAW THE EIGHTY
ONE FIRE THE PREVIOUS ATLAS FIRE
I LIVED THERE I WATCHED IT. SO
SOMETIMES I FEEL THAT FIRE FEELS
LIKE IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN
NEVER TOUCH IT JUST FEELS LIKE
IT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE AND
WE'RE JUST GOING TO BASICALLY
DEAL AND GET BEAT UP ALL THE
TIME. BUT MY MESSAGES NO IT'S
REALLY ISN'T WE CAN HAVE A
POSITIVE INFLUENCE WE CAN TO
FORCE RESTORATION THE RESEARCH
SHOWS US WE CAN MAYBE MANAGE
LIGHTING FIRE IN ACTUALLY EDGE
ARIES AT A REMOTE AND ACTUALLY
GET A WATER BENEFIT AND ACTUALLY
MAYBE EVEN A. SUSTAINABLE CARBON
WE CAN GET PEOPLE DEPLOYED MAYBE
LIVING IN COMMUNITIES TO TRY TO
WORK WITH PEOPLE TO REDUCE OUR
VULNERABILITY NOT TAKE IT TO
ZERO BUT MAKE IT BETTER. SO I'M
I'M VERY HOPEFUL THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA VERY CREATIVE PEOPLE
YOU KNOW SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE
ACTUALLY COULD ACTUALLY MOVE
FORWARD ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING
AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT CAN
MAKE THINGS BETTER. AND THAT'S
WHAT THAT ALL IN MY COMMENTS AND
WHAT A.
REALLY POSITIVE NOTE UPON WHICH
TO END THANK YOU VERY MUCH
CENTER MORE LOT.
ADAM CHAIR PROFESSOR STEVENS HOW
THEY DO FIRE BURNS IN POPULATED
AREAS.
YEAH THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND
YOU KNOW IT'S AMAZING THEY BURN
RIGHT NEXT TO ONE.
YOU KNOW I WAS ACTUALLY THAT
MIGHT BE TO COAX OUR WO WAS A
CO AUTHOR OF THAT LITTLE HANDOUT
I GAVE YOU LADIES BE PROFESSOR
UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. I SPENT
SOME TIME WITH HER AND THEY
ACTUALLY BURNED RIGHT UP THE
GOLF COURSE IS RETIREMENT
COMMUNITIES AND ACTUALLY.
CITIES THAT HAD ONE PICTURE THAT
JUST STUNNED ME IS WHEN PEOPLE
BIRD NEXT TO A GOLF COURSE OR
RETIREMENT COMMUNITY SAID GOING
GOLFING THEY TAKE ALL THE GOLF
COURSE AND THEY PUT HIM ON THE
ROAD THEY WATCH THE FIRE.
AND THIS IS THIS IS ROUTINE. YOU
KNOW IT IN FLORIDA I'VE BEEN IN
PLACES LIKE A WALMART PARKING
LOT AND THERE'S A FIRE NEXT DOOR
THE SMOKE GOING UP IN THE AIR.
AND PEOPLE JUST KIND OF BRUSH IT
OFF SO IT'S AMAZING HOW THEY'RE
ABLE ACTUALLY TO BURN RIGHT NEXT
TO COMMUNITIES FACT THEY
ACTUALLY THEY DID THEY DIRECT
THAT IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO
REDUCE. HAZARDS TO PEOPLE SO YOU
KNOW I I THINK IT'S CULTURAL
PEOPLE ARE JUST MORE CUSTOM TO
BURNING MORE CUSTOM TO KIND OF
THE ISSUES MORE CUSTOM THE
SMOKERS CRAIG SAID. AND THERE.
MAY BEEN DOING IT FOR FIFTY
YEARS AND THEY STILL CONTINUE TO
DO IT SO THEY JUST HAVE THAT
MOMENTUM BEHIND IT YOU KNOW AND
THEY'VE LEARNED FROM IT. SO I
THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT JUST
BEEN CREATED THEY'RE ABLE TO
OPERATE SO YEAH BUT THEY DO BURN
RIGHT NEXT TO COMMUNITIES AND
THEY ACTUALLY GET ENGAGED PEOPLE
TO DO IT AND THE COMMITTEE COMES
OUT WATCHES.
THANK YOU HERB CHAIRMAN OF A
DARK NOVEL.
THANK YOU FOR SERVING AS CHAIR
OF THE.
LITTLE HOOVER COMMISSION.
APPROVAL I IF I EVER WANTED TO
HAVE A TITLE THAT WOULD BE IT.
SO THANK YOU FOR SERVING YOUR
USED THE WORD WAS MARYLAND
BREWER STILL ON THE LITTLE KNOWN
NOW BUT BUT SHE DID SERVE IN.
OUGHT I SERVED AS A
REPRESENTATIVE WHILE I WAS IN
THE ASSEMBLY.
AND WAS APPOINTED.
BUYS A SPEAKER PAIR MEDICINE
TWENTY THIRTEEN AND RE APPOINTED
BY SPEAKER AND DONT BUT I DID
KNOW. MS BROKE SHE SERVED AS
WELL AND I REMEMBER COMING UP
HERE AND WENT TO DINNER WITH
SOME OF THE. COMMISSIONERS AND
IT WAS ALWAYS A GOOD.
EVENT. I'M SEEING. MAYBE MY
PERSONAL BAND TIME SEEING A HUGE
BLIND SPOT IN CALIFORNIA THAT'S
REALLY BEEN FRUSTRATING ME. AND
THAT IS.
WERE SO WE MADE GREENHOUSE GAS
AND AND CLIMATE.
OF THE CARBON YOU KNOW CLIMATE
CHANGE WE MADE THAT SUCH A FOCUS
BUT.
BUT WE'RE MISSING OUT ON
WILDFIRES.
IT'S JUST A MASSIVE BLIND SPOT.
I'M IN IT IT AS YOU POINT OUT
THE STATISTICS THAT NEGATES
EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IT JUST.
BY MULTIPLES NOT DID TONIGHT AND
JUST THE EATING AWAY IT'S A IT'S
A MASSIVE WIPE OUT. I MEAN S. AB
THIRTY TWO DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE
WILDFIRES AND HOW YOU CALCULATE
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH GREENHOUSE
GAS I'M.
PERSONALLY HAVING A REAL TOUGH
TIME WITH THAT.
MASSIVE.
I DON'T KNOW WILLFUL IGNORANCE
SIR OR I DON'T KNOW WHY I.
I I I SO SO I'VE GOT A GOVERNOR.
WHO WANTS TO ELECTRIFY
EVERYTHING YOU KNOW CARS HIGH
SPEED RAIL? IN SO THAT
ELECTRICITY IS GOING TO MOVE.
AROUND THIS STATE AND I LOOK AT
THE CHARTS THAT COME OUT OF CAL
FIRE. HOW MAY TIMES THIS YEAR
YOU SEE POWER LINES? ELECTRICITY
AND I'M I'M SAYING SOMETHING
NEEDS TO BE DONE SO IN MY
DISTRICT MARYLAND BREWERS ALL
DISTRICT.
WE HAD THE LAGUNA CANYON ROAD
IT'S ONE OF THREE. ROADS IN THE
LAGUNA BEACH THE OTHER TWO WERE
PCH.
WELL IF YOU EVER GO DOWN LAGUNA
CANYON ROAD HIGHWAY ONE THIRTY
THREE. THERE ARE.
WOULD.
TELEPHONE POLES BUT THEY ALSO
HOLD THE ELECTRICITY RIGHT. AND
IN THE LAST TEN YEARS FIFTY
EIGHT OF THOSE POLLS HAVE BEEN
HIT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DRUNK
DRIVING FALLING ASLEEP AVOIDING
A DEAR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
CAUSES ARE.
BUT WHEN THEY SNAP IN THOSE
WIRES COME DOWN IT'S LIKE A.
LIKE A HOSE ELECTRIC SPARKS ARE
GOING EVERYWHERE SO. SO THAT'S
BEEN MY CONCERN AND IT WAS THE
IMPETUS.
FOR A BILL I DID A COUPLE YEARS
AGO CALLED SP FOURTEEN SIXTY
THREE WHICH SAID.
LET'S KEEP CAL FIRE IN THE CPUC
UP TO GET THESE MAPS DONE. FOR
EIGHT YEARS AND THEY'RE NOT DONE
IN IN LAGUNA BEACH WAS
CONSIDERED. LOW RISK BUT IT WAS
ON THE TOP TWENTY ON ON ONE OF
THE LIST. YOU KNOW WHEN THEY HAD
THEIR FIRE NINETEEN NINETY THREE
OVER FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY HOMES
LOST.
SO I'M TRYING TO GET MY ARMS
AROUND THAT IS A PARTICIPANT OF
OF OF OF OF THE FUN STUFF UP
HERE. AND I SEE YOU KNOW WE'RE
WE'RE DOING A CAP AND TRADE.
REVENUE TAX WHATEVER WE WANT TO
CALL IT. BUT I DON'T SEE ANY OF
THAT MONEY GOING TO HARDEN
ELECTRIC LINES.
AND THAT'S A MAJOR CAUSE OF OUR
FIRES. AND I I'M JUST.
THAT'S MY BEEF AND SO I BELIEVE
THAT WE SHOULD BE USING CAPITA
DOLLARS TO FIX OUR POWER LINES
EVER GOING TO BE ALL ELECTRIC
ON.
EVERYTHING. THAT NEEDS TO BE
HARDENED AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE
BEEN. TO TRY TO WORK ON THIS
YEAR. A BUT I JUST WANTED TO
SEE.
IT WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE
BECAUSE IT FOR NOT WORKING ON
THAT I JUST SEE THE WHOLE EFFORT
ON GLOBAL WARMING IS A FARCE IF
WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE.
THIS BIG BLIND SPOT DIE BUT I
THINK WHAT.
PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE
THAT YOU. TAKE A LOOK AT DACHAU
FIRES DOESN'T ADDRESS THE
UTILITY DIRECTLY BECAUSE
UTILITIES GOING TO HAVE RIGHT OF
WAYS NEED TO LAY HAS AN
OBLIGATION. TO MAINTAIN THE
RIGHT OF WAY. IN SUCH A WAY THAT
MINIMIZES THE LIKELIHOOD. THAT
IT WILL BE RESPECTED A CAUSATIVE
FACTOR. FOR A FIRE.
AND I THINK PROBABLY THE SENSE
OF IT IS. THAT WITH THE
PRIVATELY OWNED UTILITIES BUT
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN
INCORPORATE INTO THEIR BUSINESS
PLAN WHETHER OR NOT IT AFFECTS
INVESTORS OR. THE RATE PAYERS
BUT THEY DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION
TO MAINTAIN THEIR EASEMENTS. AND
PART OF WHAT WE WHAT WE
DISCOVERED.
IN WORKING ON THIS STUDY IS THAT
IT'S VERY.
THE CHALLENGE IS A WORD WE'VE
HEARD AN AWFUL LOT TODAY IT'S
VERY CHALLENGING FOR THE
UTILITIES TO HAVE TO DO THE
MAINTENANCE. PARTICULAR HEAVILY
FORESTED AREAS ONE BECAUSE THEY
MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE
ACCESS SECONDLY. OFTEN INVOLVES
TRAVERSING A PRIVATE PROPERTY
OWNERS AND THE AVERAGE COST TO
REMOVE A TREE THAT'S AN EASEMENT
AREA AS WELL AS OTHER ASKED. IS
ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS A
TREAT.
SO IT IS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE
FOR THE UTILITIES.
WE THINK NOT START ADDRESSING
THE UTILITY ISSUE DIRECTLY BUT
WE THINK THAT.
CAL FIRE COULD BENEFIT AND
CALIFORNIANS COULD BENEFIT FROM
AN INCREASE IN THEIR BUDGET ON
THAT PART OF IT THAT IS DEVOTED
TO PREVENTION.
NOW MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE
ROOT OF WHAT WE FOUND IN THE
REPORT IS ABOUT A HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLARS I THINK OF CAL
FIRES TOTAL BUDGET. IS COMMITTED
TO THE PREVENTION WHEN IN FACT
IT REALLY OUGHT TO BE
DRAMATICALLY MORE. THE ARAB AS
AN EXAMPLE AND HAVING TO DO WITH
PRESCRIBED. FIRE AND AND AND
MANAGEMENT. SOFTWARE IS
ESTIMATED AT FIVE HUNDRED
THOUSAND ACRES PER YEAR OF STATE
LOCAL AND PRIVATE LAND SHOULD BE
TREATED IN OTHER WORDS YOU DO
THE MANAGEMENT OF IT. ACTIVE
MANAGEMENT UP. A BOT.
IT BECAUSE OF RESOURCES OUR
CURRENT GOALS ONLY IT TWENTY
THOUSAND ACRES OF PER YEAR AND
ON THE FEDERAL SIDE. BUT THEY
ALSO AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD BE
DOING FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND
ACRES A YEAR. BUT THEY'RE ONLY
AVERAGING HALF OF THAT SO THERE
IS A.
DISCONNECT FROM. WHAT NEEDS TO
BE DONE IN TERMS OF MANAGEMENT?
AND WHAT OUGHT TO BE DONE AND I
THINK THAT ONE OF THE IMPORTANT.
RESULTS FROM.
HEARINGS LIKE THIS IS ELEVATING
THE CONVERSATION SO THAT MORE
PEOPLE ARE NOW MAKING THE
CONNECTION BETWEEN A RESILIENT
FOREST AN ACTUAL MANAGEMENT.
.
AGAIN AS AS WE HEARD WE'RE
LIVING WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF
A POLICY THAT WAS FORMULATED. BY
THE FEDS AT LEAST A HUNDRED
YEARS AGO.
WHERE THE IDEA WAS BECAUSE IT
HAD FIRES ON THE EAST COAST AND
PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES? THE
FEDERAL POLICY WAS YOU PUT IT
OUT RIGHT AWAY AND THEN THE
POLICY WAS NO MORE THAN TEN
ACRES AND THEN THE POLICY WAS.
OUT BY TEN O'CLOCK THE NEXT DAY
WELL THAT'S LEFT US WHERE WE
WHERE WE ARE NOW.
AND AND AND IT. YOU CAN'T REALLY
SEPARATE I DON'T THINK THE ISSUE
OF GREENHOUSE GAS ON THE POINT
THAT I MADE. THAT.
WE'VE ASKED OUR FORMATION
CHANGE OUR BEHAVIOR.
WE'RE PAYING FOR IT IN MANY
DIFFERENT WAYS.
BUT AS YOU POINTED OUT THERE'S
A BIG PIECE OF THIS AVENUE OF
FORCE MANAGEMENT. ON DOES BOB
THE THE TREMENDOUS EFFORTS BY
PEOPLE AT THE STATE AND BY
PEOPLE IN OUR OWN COMMUNITIES.
TO MAKE SACRIFICES TO CHANGE OUR
LIFESTYLES BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE
THAT AND I AND I AGREE WITH IT
THAT THE GREENHOUSE GAS ISSUES
REAL.
MISTER THOMAS DO YOU OWN A
PRIUS.
I DO NOT I'M JUST. THAT I DO
HAVE TO SAY SEVEN THEY HAVE
ACRES OF THAT IS LOOKING REALLY
GOOD TODAY BECAUSE WE DID THAT
WORK AND BELIEVE IN IT THOUGH
AND THAT THAT.
IF I COULD SAY ONE THING ABOUT
THE CARBON THING BECAUSE IT IS
CONFUSING TO ANYBODY THAT
DOESN'T LIVING IN BRINGING S
AND I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION
I WANT TO ASK YOU IS IS IN THE
EYE AFTER EARLIER YOU KNOW. YEAH
PRE BURN VERSES WRITTEN REAL
BURN MY INCLUDING SMOKE UP IN
THE AIR YEAH I MEAN WHAT IT WHAT
IT WHAT OF IT. PERCENTAGE
DIFFERENCES SO WE MAKE THE
ARGUMENT EFFECTIVELY I THINK
SCOTT WOULD AGREE WITH THIS IS
THAT WE'VE GOT SOME DUES TO PAY.
FROM THE SITUATION WE'RE IN NOW
TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE BOTH OF
FORCE RESILIENCE BUT ALSO WITH
CARBON STABILITY. IN IT SPEAKING
JUST FOR THE SIERRA NEVADA IT'S
ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME EMITTING
AND SEQUESTRATION WE WANT THE
PICTURE TO LOOK A LOT
DIFFERENTLY IN THOSE STANDS AND
IT LOOKS TO THAT WE ANT. THE
LARGER OLDER FIRE RESILIENT
TREES TO BE A KEY PART OF THE
LANDSCAPE THEY WENT AWAY. AND WE
NEED TO GET THAT COMPONENT BACK
IN A ROBUST WAY.
THE SMALLER UNDER STORIES ARE SO
DENSE USING FIRE AND MECHANICAL
TREATMENTS. THAT SPACE NEEDS TO
BE OPENED UP. FROM THOSE LARGER
RESILIENT TREES OVER TIME SO
WE'RE GOING TO BE EMITTING
CARBON.
IN THE PAST THE RESTORATION. BUT
IT WON'T BE THE BIG MASSIVE BLOW
OUTS RIMFIRE IN ONE BURN PERIOD
PUT UP TEN THOUSAND TONS.
THE PM TWO POINT FIVE.
ONE DAY.
I MEAN THE PLUME WHEN ALL THE
WAY TO THE SASKATCHEWAN I THINK
BY THE TIME. ON IT SEVEN MILLION
PERSON DAYS OF PHYSICAL HEALTH
PUBLIC HEALTH HARM. LOST WORK
DAYS.
HOSPITAL VISITS.
AMAZING ECONOMIC AND HEALTH
IMPACTS FROM THAT FIRE.
AND BUT WHEN YOU PRESCRIBED BURN
THOSE CONDITIONS AND AND IT'S
BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE HERE
TODAY. PRESCRIBED BURNS ONE WE
HAVE SOME SAY IN HOW GOES. AND
THE EMISSIONS ARE VERY DIFFERENT
AND YOU GET THAT RESILIENCE ON
THE LAND SO WHEN A FIRE THAT YOU
DON'T PLAN HITS YOU GET A VERY
DIFFERENT RESULT THAN IF YOU
DON'T HAVE. THE SURFACE AND
LADDER FUELS UNDER CONTROL BUT
THERE'S GONNA BE EMITTING
HAPPENING WHILE WE GET BACK TO
WHERE WE NEED TO BE. THERE ON
THE OTHER FLIPSIDE WE NEED TREES
FOR THE CARBON RIGHT.
WE.
I DO OWN A TOYOTA HIGHLANDER
HYBRID.
YOU CAN DRIVE A HYBRID AND BE
COMFORTABLE ON THAT ON THAT NOTE
SENT TO SKINNER THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR HONEYWELL.
THANK YOU I APPRECIATE ALL OF
YOUR COMMENTS AND.
INTERESTINGLY I.
TOOK A NUMBER OF WILD LAND
ECOLOGY CLASSES IT FELL OKAY.
IN QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE.
NOT ONLY OF WILD LAND MANAGEMENT
PRACTICES BUT.
THE THE.
WHAT OUR MANAGED LAND SO MANY OF
US REFER TO A WELL SOMEHOW THE?
LANDSCAPE WAS QUOTE UNQUOTE
NATURAL.
PRIOR TO.
THE ANGLO AND OTHER. FOLKS
ARRIVING IN OUR THIS PART OF
THAT REGION. AND IT WAS ALWAYS
MANAGED
SO IT LEAST THERE WAS HUMAN
INVOLVEMENT IN THE MANAGEMENT
THE LANDSCAPE AS YOU'VE POINTED
OUT FOR. THE MILLENNIUM.
I'M.
BUT A COUPLE OF.
.
KIND OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
FIRST.
ON THE ISSUE THAT. MISTER MOORE
LIKE RAISED AROUND.
YOU KNOW IF WE IF WE ALLOW FOR
MANAGE BURNS OR WE LET RELEASING
CARBONATION POINTED OUT WE DO.
BUT WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT
WHICH WASN'T.
POINTED OUT SO MUCH IS THAT.
IF WE HAD MANAGED THAT WILDLAND
BETTER.
WE WOULD HAVE MORE CARBON
STORAGE RIGHT NOW THAT THE LARGE
FIRES NOT ONLY RELEASED
SIGNIFICANT GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS BUT THEY DESTROYED.
THE OLD GROWTH FOREST OR MUCH OF
THE OLDER MAYBE NOT FULLY
ORIGINAL OF GROWTH BUT THE OLDER
WHICH WAS THE. THAT. WAS THE
FORCE THAT WAS STORING THE MOST
CARBON.
SO IF WE CAN RETURN TO IT IT'LL
TAKE A VERY VERY LONG TIME TO
HAVE THAT LEVEL OF.
BIO MASTERY TO RETAIN THAT TYPE
OF CARBON BUT IT WOULD. GET US
THERE.
BUT ON THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU.
WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENT ON THAT
OR NOT BUT. NO I AGREE WITH YOU
FULLY I THINK THAT ON THE A
LARGE TREES WHITE SPACING
CONNECT HAVE THE ABILITY TO HOLD
CARBON. SOME PEOPLE CALL THAT
CAR IN CARBON CARRYING CAPACITY
OR SINGING ABILITY AND THAT'S
RIGHT AND IT JUST MEANS THAT
YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOLD
ON TO A LARGER PUBLIC HOLD ONTO
WITH MORMON CLIMATE HOLD ONTO A
LITTLE BETTER WITH DROUGHT
CYCLES. HURTS RIGHT YOU GET YOU
GET ALL THE SCOPE BENEFITS THAT
WOULD BE AVAILABLE THEN THEY
HAVE THE FORCE MOVE FORWARD IN A
CHANGING CLIMATE AND CHANGING
REGIME OF STATE PRECIPITATION
ANY POTENTIALLY HAVE LESS FIRES.
AFTER OUR THERE MAY BE SOME WAYS
THE CONUNDRUM MIGHT BE ACTUALLY
MAYHAVE MORE BECAUSE MAYBE
YOU'RE GONNA USE FAR THE MAIL
YOU KNOW RIGHT OKAY YEAH YOU'D
HAVE MORE FIRES BUT MAYBE
SMALLER LESS CATASTROPHIC. SO
YOU'D HAVE FIRES THAT DID NOT
RELEASE THIS MATCH EMISSIONS AND
YOU TO INCREASE YOUR STORAGE
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT I THINK YOU
HAVE VERY LOW EMISSIONS PER FIRE
PER PER ANNUM JUST AS CRAIG IS
ALLUDED TO BE MORE MAINTENANCE
FOR SOME SORT OF ABILITY TO KEEP
THOSE FORCED I'M. RESIGNED TO
THE FUTURE. BUT IS TO.
CHAIRMAN NOVICE POINTS.
BUT WE HAD A HEARING AROUND WITH
CARBON THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
COMMITTEE AROUND CARBS RECENT
ACTION PLAN AND OF COURSE WHAT
THE IRB IS DOING. IS PROJECTING
WHAT'S THE GROWTH OF EMISSIONS
UNDER A BUSINESS AS USUAL
SCENARIO AND UNDER THE MEASURES
THAT WE NOW HAVE. WHAT'S OUR.
GOAL FOR REDUCTION AND NOW IT'S
EIGHTY PERCENT BY TWENTY FIFTY
AND THEN WHAT DID WE NEED TO DO
WHAT'S THE GAP YOU KNOW HOW MANY
TIMES WE HAVE TO GET OUT WHAT WE
NEED TO DO TO GET THAT. IN WHEN
WE HAD THAT HEARING OF COURSE WE
HAD ALREADY HAD THESE FIRES PLUS
THE LISA CANYON LAKE. NEITHER OF
THOSE.
THE.
EVENTS.
NEITHER THEIR EMISSIONS HAD NOT
BEEN FACTORED IN THE ACTION
PLAN.
IT IS THE DATA WE'VE SEEN IT
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SO.
I BASICALLY SUGGESTED. THAT.
FROM A FEW FROM THIS POINT ON
THE ACTION PLAN NEEDS TO HAVE. A
LITTLE IT WHETHER IT'S A TEN
PERCENT OR TWENTY PERCENT LIKE
UNEXPECTED.
FOR UNANTICIPATED OR JUST. YOU
VENTS THAT CAUSE LARGE CARBON
RELEASES.
SO THAT THEN WE INCREASE WERE
CONSCIOUS THAT WE HAVE TO
INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF REDUCTION
WE NEED TO DO OR.
THAT WE NEED AS POINTED OUT TO
MAKE INVESTMENTS IN PREVENTING
THOSE INCIDENTS THAT CREATE
THAT.
SO I DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW A.
PARTICULAR POINT OF VIEW AS TO
WHICH IS OPTIMAL OR HOW THEY
SHOULD BE BALANCED.
BUT I THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO THE
DISCUSSION WE JUST SHOT.
WELL I THINK IT UP YOU KNOW WHAT
YOU HEARD IS THAT.
THERE IS NO FIRE SEASON FIRE
SEASONS ALL YEAR ROUND.
AND THAT.
CALIFORNIA UNFORTUNATELY HAS A
FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT. RESERVOIR OF
MISMANAGED FOREST THAT IS GONNA
BURN.
SO YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO
PROJECT IN IT WITH GREAT
ACCURACY OF THE IMPACT OF A
CARBON IMPACT OF FUTURE FIRES
BUT I DO AGREE. YOU'RE GONNA
HAVE ON.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM AND
THAT THEY ARE ARE GOING TO
CONTRIBUTE IN ONE WAY OR
ANOTHER.
I AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF
IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU WANT TO
BUILD OR IF YOU'RE RUNNING AN
ORGANIZATION YOU WANT TO
RESERVE.
YOU WANNA RESERVE TO. INSURE
THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES
TO PAY FOR ANY UNANTICIPATED
ISSUES AND SO PERHAPS.
LOOKING AT THE OF CARBON ACTION
PLAN. AND.
ALLOCATING A CERTAIN AMOUNT IN
RESERVE FOR UNANTICIPATED.
EVENTS.
WOULD MAKE YOU ACTUALLY MORE
ACCURATE IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE.
A DIFFERENT.
.
VALUE ON.
THE TYPE OF ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE
DESCRIBING.
IF.
NO YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
YOU KNOW I LOOK AT THIS IS.
KIND OF A.
EVOLUTION OF HISTORIC TIME.
IN MY EXPERIENCE.
WITH SUCH MATTERS THAT GOES BACK
QUITE A FEW YEARS.
AND THIS GENERAL ATTITUDE ABOUT
MANAGING OUR FORCE AND WILDLANDS
CHANGE ALONG TIME AGO WAS MISTER
THOMAS KNOWLEDGE. LONGER TIME
AGO THAN I EVEN THOUGHT.
BUT THAT SAID.
I THINK THESE AND WE'VE HAD LOTS
OF CATASTROPHIC SHOP FIRES IT
DID NOT CHANGE THE TREND.
MAYBE THERE ARE OFTEN CATALYTIC
MOMENT.
AND I THINK THIS MAY BE ONE.
SO MANY OF DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVES THAT DID NOT USED
TO AGREE. NOW SEEM TO AGREE.
THOMAS I READ THE NUMBER OF
OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ON THE LIST
THERE.
BY THE WAY DID SHE AMOUNT
CONSERVATIVES HEADED BY MY
FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF THAT VERY
ABLE MISTER BRANHAM.
A GREAT FELLOW.
AND HE'S ALWAYS ADVOCATED THAT.
AS WE WORK TOGETHER ON THE FORCE
MANY YEARS AGO TOGETHER HERE.
SO I SEE THAT IS SIGNIFICANT.
NOW.
I CAN'T KEEP ONE COPY
ASSEMBLYMAN NOVEL CUT IT TO
ANOTHER.
AS FAR AS A MECHANICAL. YOU
DIDN'T TALK MUCH ABOUT THAT.
AND IT APPEARS THAT.
.
YOU KNOW THAT'S A PART OF THE
DEAL.
PROFESSOR STEVENS MENTION.
MECHANICAL BC IT DID THE LITTLE
HOOVER COMMISSION FIND THAT
THERE IS A PLACE FOR MECHANICAL.
THE REMOVAL AS WELL. AT NO
ABSOLUTELY AS I AS I MENTIONED.
INITIALLY THAT WE MAY NINE
RECOMMENDATIONS SO WE TALK ABOUT
COLLABORATION USING PRESCRIBED
FIRE UP DEALING WITH THE DEAD
TREES IN A WAY THAT PROMOTES
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR RURAL
COMMUNITIES. EDUCATING THE
PUBLIC CREATING A TASK FORCE ON
MANAGEMENT AND HOLDING THE STATE
ACCOUNTABLE AND FORCE CARBON
PLAN IN OUR REPORT WE USE AS
EXAMPLES. OF COMMUNITIES THAT
HAVE.
SMALL MILLS.
THAT ARE TAKING SOME OF THE WOOD
PRODUCT AND AND THE TREE
MORTALITY TASK FORCE HAS A
SUBCOMMITTEE THAT DEALS WITH HOW
DO YOU. MONETIZE.
SOME OF THIS UNDESIRABLE I'M
CALLING IT THAT LUMBER THAT IS.
OUT IN THE FOREST.
AND THEY THEY'RE LOOKING TO USE
IT FOR LAMINATED BUT WOULDN'T
YOU KNOW CALIFORNIA IMPORTS
EIGHTY PERCENT OF ITS WOOD
PRODUCT.
EIGHTY PERCENT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT IT IN A BALANCE OF TRADE
EIGHTY PERCENT OF WOOD PRODUCTS
WE USE HERE COMES FROM SOMEPLACE
ELSE. TO WORKERS SOMEPLACE ELSE
ARE GETTING PAID TO HARVEST IT
AND A PROCESS AT INDY SHIP IT
AND THEN WE PUT IT TO WORK IN
OUR STATE. WE THINK THAT THE
UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES.
THERE ARE. OPPORTUNITIES TO USE
THAT WORD AND WHEN YOU HAVE A
SMALL COMMUNITY IN THE ONE THAT
I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT IS IN
THE REPORT WAS THIRTY FIVE
HUNDRED PEOPLE. AND YOU HAVE A
MILL THAT MAYBE HIRES A DOZEN OR
TWO DOZEN PEOPLE MAY NOT SEEM
LIKE MUCH TO CITY FOLKS THAT'S
KIND OF A BIG DEAL.
AND THE RECOGNITION OF THE
ECONOMIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THE
FORCED ACTIVITY IN RURAL
COUNTIES IS SOMETHING THAT IS
IMPORTANT FOR FOR THEM TO BE
VIABLE.
THE OTHER PART THAT.
THAT I DIDN'T MENTION. IT WITH
RESPECT IMPACTS ON RURAL
COUNTIES IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER A
FIRE. AND IF YOU'RE IN A
WATERSHED IN BECAUSE OF THE FIRE
THE SOILS CAN. CAN NO LONGER
ABSORB THE WATER AND SO YOU END
UP WITH. WITH WITH THAT BUT.
IMPROPER MATERIALS IN YOUR WATER
SYSTEM THOSE RURAL COUNTIES HAVE
TO BEAR THE COST OF MAINTAINING
THEIR EQUIPMENT. CLEANING OUT
THE PLACES THAT HAVE TO BE
CLEANED OUT. IN ORDER TO
MAINTAIN THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE UP
IN A LOT OF COUNTIES THEY DON'T
HAVE VERY MUCH MONEY. SO THE
IMPACTS OF MISMANAGEMENT LEADING
TO A FIRE LEADING TO THIS
MOONSCAPE ESSENTIALLY THAT'S
BEEN SCORCHED. THERE'S A DIRECT
ECONOMIC DETRIMENT TO RURAL
COUNTIES WHO ARE THE LEAST ABLE
TO RESPOND BECAUSE THEY JUST
DON'T HAVE THE SAME ECONOMIC
BASE.
WELL I WANT TO THANK YOU FROM
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART BECAUSE I
THINK KEVIN REPRESENTED NINETEEN
COUNTIES I'VE REPRESENTED MORE
SMALL RURAL COUNTIES IN ANYBODY
HISTORY.
AND I SPEAK FROM THE HEART ON
THIS.
FEDERAL YOU KNOW BACK IN THE
EIGHTIES I AUTHORED SOMETHING
CALLED REAL RENAISSANCE.
IN OUR ECONOMIES WERE IN TROUBLE
THEN.
REAL RENAISSANCE IS A
COMBINATION OF GRANTS AND LOANS
TO RURAL COUNTIES TO DO
SOMETHING THAT WOULD ACT
DIVERSIFY THEIR ECONOMIC BASE IN
WAYS THAT WAS COMPLIMENTARY.
AND NOT COMPETITIVE WITH.
FORESTS. AND AGRICULTURE.
AND WHEN I CAME BACK AFTER A
NUMBER OF YEARS GONE I WANTED TO
RE VISIT RURAL RENAISSANCE BUT
THERE WAS NO MONEY FOR GRANTS
AND LOANS.
BUT WHAT THAT IN PART CAME TO ME
TO BE WAS GREATER INTERNET
CONNECTIVITY TO THE RURAL AREAS.
TOLD THE LITTLE. PERSON COULD
MARKET ALL OF. THE THINGS
WORLDWIDE AND FORCED A SMILE AND
MANAGED.
AND I SEE THE TIDE TURNING
AROUND HERE FOR YEARS EVEN UP
TILL ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO IN
ADMINISTRATIONS.
AS A POLICY THEN IN THE
LEGISLATURE. YOU DIDN'T DARE
TALK ABOUT ANYTHING LIKE PORTION
WHILE AND MANAGEMENT YOU JUST
LEAVE IT BE DON'T TOUCH.
ALTHOUGH IT'S UNFORTUNATE THE
CATASTROPHIC FIRES THAT NOW
ENCROACHED ON URBAN AREAS. HAVE
AWAKENED THE PLACE.
THAT'S AWAKENED NOW.
AND IT IS NOW TIME TO SEIZE THE
TIME. I THINK. AND TURN THE
TIDE.
AND MANAGE.
NOW IF ANY OF YOU AS FAR AS THE.
MANAGEMENT.
WHAT ABOUT THE?
MAINTENANCE AND RETENTION TIME I
WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
TREE PLANTING.
I'M A BIG THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO
ME BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME
AREAS THAT. BY PLANNING YOU'RE
GOING TO GET THAT OUT AHEAD OF
THE BRUSH.
SOON.
ENTRIES ARE SO IMPORTANT YOU'VE
ALL TALKED ABOUT EVEN WATER.
WELL THE FRY ABILITY OF THE
SOIL.
THAT COMES FROM HAVING THE
FOLIAGE THAT COMES DOWN AND THE
COMPOSERS AND HAS THE ROOT.
THAT ALLOWS GREATER RETENTION
AND THAT WATERSHED.
THAT'S GOOD FOR ALL OF US.
AND MAYBE ONE OF OUR FAILINGS
THAT CERTAINLY IS A FAILING
HERE.
IS AN INABILITY THANK TEN TWENTY
THIRTY FORTY YEARS DOWN THE WAY.
AND THE RETENTION OF WATER.
IN THE WATERSHED IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
BUT BACK TO THE TH THE
MECHANICAL THINNING ANYBODY HAVE
ANY OBSERVATIONS ABOUT WHAT
KINDS OF. MECHANICAL THINNING
WOULD BE.
REASONABLE AND.
TACTICS.
ALLOW FOR ONE CENTER NIELSEN AND
IT WAS SPOKEN TO QUITE WELL IN
THE LITTLE HOOVER COMMISSION
REPORT. AND IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S
SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED FROM
DOCTOR STEVENS YEARS AGO THE
PRIMARY DRIVER OF WILDFIRE
BEHAVIORS A SURFACE AND THE
LATTER FUELS A LADDER FUELS THE
TREES THAT ARE IN THE
INTERMEDIATE STAGES THAT SEND
THE FLAMES UP ANOTHER CROWNS AND
THEN IT REALLY GETS GOING. WE
DON'T HAVE A GREAT MARKET
RESPONSE TO DEAL WITH WHAT I
THINK THERE IS BROAD AGREEMENT
NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST ONE
RESTORATION TARGET. WHICH IS TO
GET THOSE LADDER FUELS OUT AND
BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING
PRODUCTIVE WITH THEM. RIGHT NOW
AND YOU YOU KNOW THIS LIVING IN
A RURAL AREA BUT IF YOU TRAVEL
ON FOR SERVICE GROUND. WHEN THEY
FINISH A MECHANICAL TREATMENT
THE SLASHES PILED SOMETIMES IN
PILES NEARLY HALF THE SIZE OF
THIS ROOM.
OF THE HUNDREDS OF THEM AND THEY
LIGHT THEM UP THEY BURN THEM
BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE FOR
THEM TO GO SO I THINK.
THE COMMISSION ADDRESS THE ISSUE
AND AND WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE I
STARTED THE BIOMASS WORKING
GROUP IN CALIFORNIA NOT THE
INDUSTRY ONE BUT THE
COLLABORATIVE ONE THAT BROUGHT
ALL STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER TO
TALK ABOUT THE RIGHT. SIZE AND
PLACEMENT OF THE KINDS OF UNITS
THAT WE NEED IN OUR RURAL
COMMUNITIES.
TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT MATERIAL
IN PARTICULAR TO PROVIDE A
MARKETPLACE FOR SMALL DIAMETER
TREES FROM POLLS FOR CHIPS. TO
BE ABLE TO USE THAT HEAT.
CAN ELECTRICITY.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
THERE'S A BROAD CONSENSUS AROUND
IN THIS STATE IS TO BE ABLE TO
IN EVERY WAY YOU KNOW IT
PLACERVILLE GRASS VALLEY YOU
NAME THE TOWNS.
TO HAVE THOSE UNITS AVAILABLE TO
BE ABLE TO USE THAT MATERIAL IN
A REALLY POSITIVE WAY AND IT'S
NOT AN OVER REACH. IT'S GOTTA BE
SCALED TO THE NEED NOBODY WANTS
TO VACUUM THE WHOLE LANDSCAPE.
ALL THESE STORIES I HEAR BUT
THERE IS A VERY LEGITIMATE.
.
OPPORTUNITY HERE TO HAVE THOSE
UNITS IN OUR RURAL ENVIRONMENTS
THROUGHOUT ALL OF CALIFORNIA IN
A REASONABLE YOU SPACE WAY.
BASED ON NEED THOSE ARE HIGHLY
MOBILE NOW I BELIEVE TO. OUR
MOBILE AND IT'S THE IDEA OF
HAVING A SORE YARD WHERE YOU
BRING IN THAT WOODEN SWORD IT TO
BEST ECONOMIC PURPOSE.
AND WHATEVER IS LEFT GOES INTO
THE BIOMASS BOILER. BUT YOU CAN
DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS WITH
TREES OF THAT SIZE THAT HAPPEN
IN OTHER STATES THAT HAPPENS IN
EASTERN WASHINGTON THEY USE.
THEY HAVE A WHOLE SMALL DIAMETER
FOCUS IN THE SOUTH WEST WE DON'T
DO IT HERE.
AND I I THINK THAT PART IS A
REAL MISSING LINK IN WHAT WE
COULD ALL. GENERALLY AGREE UPON
IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND THE
COMMISSION SPOKE TO THAT. I
THINK ELOQUENTLY IN TERMS OF IT.
ENCOURAGING THAT SOMETHING COMES
TO MIND IT EXISTED YEARS AGO I
THINK TO THE PC WAS CALLED
STANDARD OFFER FOR CONTRACTS FOR
COGENERATION.
IN FACT A PLANT THAT I DEVELOPED
TO WITH SOME PARTNERS IT BURNS
RIFLES.
WAS UNDER ONE OF THOSE CONTRACTS
IT GAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN
INCENTIVE IF YOU WILL.
THAT'S NOT AROUND ANYMORE.
SOLAR OWNS THE TURF.
BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT
SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A
GOOD IDEA PROSPECTIVELY FOR WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.
THOSE WERE MANAGING THE FORCE IN
THE WILD LANDS.
NO THAT'S AS IMPORTANT I WOULD
SAY IS. GENERATING SOLAR ENERGY
NOW NOT NOT GETS A SOLAR I'M
JUST SAYING THAT THIS MIGHT BE
HAS A PLACE IN THE SUN AGAIN.
WHEN YOU DO THAT LEVEL OF
CONTROL BURNING IN A CONFINED
UNIT AND YOU CAN TAKE THE HEAT
AND DO THINGS WITH IT LIKE DRY
WOOD OR EVEN GROW LARGE
HORTICULTURAL LIKE. TOMATOES IN
THE WINNER. IN THE END THE
ELEVATIONS AT OR ABOVE THE FOG
IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN PARTS
OF CALIFORNIA YOU CAN USE THAT
HE'D TAKE YOU BUILDINGS. YOU CAN
OFFSET THE FOSSIL FUEL NEED THAT
THOSE BUILDINGS OR OTHERWISE
HAVE.
SEE A WRONGNESS TO THAT IDEA
ANYWHERE I LOOK.
I AGREE WITH THAT I I THINK
CREATIVITY WITH MECHANICAL
METHODS IS REALLY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE A REAL COMMUNITIES AND.
IN OTHER SOMEBODY WROTE IT ACRES
THAT HAVE BEEN ENTERED THREE
FOUR FIVE TIMES YOU KNOW ALL
OVER THIS. STATE SO. YOU HAVE
THE ABILITY TO GO ON WITH
MACHINES DO CREATIVE THINGS GET
A BIT MORE VARIATION IN THE
FORCE STRUCTURE AFTERWARDS I
THINK ONE THING THE. RESEARCH
SHOWS IS HOW MUCH AN EIGHTY OR
P. PLANT TREES ON EIGHTEEN FOOT
CENTERS IN THIS GROW THEM YOU
KNOW THAT EVENTUALLY THEY REALLY
BECOME MORE VULNERABLE TO
ACTUALLY CHANGE BUT. MAYBE
COMPLAINING GROUPS MAYBE CLUBS
MAYBE SOME AREAS COULD BE LEFT
ALONE. AND THEN USE MECHANICAL
METHODS MAY BE COMPLEMENTARY
WITH BURNING TO ACTUALLY TO
ACHIEVE RESILIENCE AND INCREASED
SAY CARBON CAPACITY OF LAND.
I THINK IT CAN TAKE ALL THE MIKE
I ALWAYS FEEL A LITTLE NERVOUS
WHEN PEOPLE SAY OR DO EVERYTHING
WITH FIRE OR SOMEONE MIGHT JUST
SAY WE'RE GOOD EVERYTHING
pJUST GOTTA GIVE ALL THE TOOLS
AVAILABLE THAT THE PERSON ON THE
GROUND MAKE THE BEST CHOICE TO
MOVE AHEAD IT JUST FEELS LIKE
THAT IS JUST SO NECESSARY RIGHT
NOW. WE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN
ANOTHER PLAGUE ON OUR FOREST NOW
AND THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN SOME
KIND NEEDLE MINERS THAT WAY BACK
WHEN AND AND NOW BARK BEETLES.
I WATCHED ONE OF OUR OUR PINE
TREES A.
A RED WAS ON RIGHT ON OUR NEXT
DOOR HOME JUST.
BARBADOS SH. GONE. BEAUTIFUL
TRAIT WELL. MANAGING THE FORCE
IN THE WILD LANDS. HAVING MORE
HEALTHY TREES IN GENERAL SEEMS
TO ME IT WOULD BE ONE OF THE
WAYS TO FIGHT THE BARK BEETLE.
IT WOULD BE A YEAH DUMP IT IN
AND PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT
THAT.
THE THE THE IT COMES TO MIND NOW
IMAGE OF ONE MY OWN REMARKS AND.
COMMENTS DOWN THAT.
YOU'RE ADVOCATING A A MORE
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH.
THEN WE'VE EMBRACED IN A LONG
TIME.
THE GENTLEMAN I FEEL THAT THE
TIME IS RIPE FOR THIS CHANGE.
IT.
DID NOT I BUT I THINK YOU'RE
RIGHT I REMEMBER. WHEN I WAS
HERE I WAS THERE FROM ALL FORTY
TWENTY TEN. AND WE HAD THIS
CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND WHEN
I WAS IN OFFICE. THE THERE WERE
MADE AS A RELATED FORESTRY
ISSUES IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A
RELIGION.
AND SO YOU HAD YOU HAD THE
PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT OF THE
FOREST INDUSTRY IN HARVESTING
WERE ON ONE SIDE AND THEN THE
ENVIRONMENTALISTS WERE ON THE
OTHER SIDE. AND NEVER WOULD THEY
EVER THERE WAS NEVER ANY
AGREEMENT ABOUT ANYTHING RIGHT.
BUT YEAH IT WAS JUST A IT. BUT
CLEARLY. YOU'RE WRONG NO YOU'RE
WRONG IT THERE WAS NO
ACCOMMODATION WHATSOEVER.
AND WHAT I WAS REALLY PLEASED TO
SEE AS WE TALK TO PEOPLE AND
GOING TO THIS REPORT.
WAS.
A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BY ALL
SIDES.
THAT MORE HAD TO BE DONE THAT
THIS NOTION OF LEAVING THE
FOREST.
AS IT WAS.
IT WAS A NATURAL PROCESS IS NOT
A NATURAL FOREST IT IS ON
NATURAL. AND ENVIRONMENTAL
GROUPS WHO IN THE PAST MIGHT
HAVE BEEN OPPOSED ANY
CONVERSATION. THEY'RE NOT
REACTING THAT WAY ANY LONGER
THEY ARE INDEED THE BUILDING
TRUST WITH OTHERS IN OUR
COMMUNITY OF FOLKS WHO WANT TO
DO SOME THINNING AND HARVESTING.
TO COME UP WITH SOME AGREEMENTS.
AND JUST THE. SPECIFIC POINT
WHEN I MADE REFERENCE TO THE
SAWMILL THAT WAS IN NORTH FORK.
SO.
THEY'RE PROCESSING WHAT IN NORTH
FORK IT CREATES ABOUT A DOZEN
JOBS. THAT ART IS IS HELPING THE
COMMUNITY TO PROSPER.
I KNOW THE LITTLE TOWN OF IT'S
NOT TOO FAR FROM WHERE OUR
FAMILY RANCH WAS FOR DECADES AND
DECADES. IT AND YOU KNOW I CAN
LITERALLY SEE.
THESE LITTLE TOWNS.
THERE ARE NOW SO DEPRESSED WHEN
A LITTLE BIT OF LIFE COMING BACK
INTO THE.
AND ONE OF THE ELEMENTS TO RURAL
RENAISSANCE PLEASE.
FORGIVE ME FOR.
GETTING SO MUCH INTO IT BUT IT
IS PASSIONATE TO ME.
THE KEY ELEMENT OF RURAL
RENAISSANCE WAS OUR CHILDREN.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IF OUR
CHILDREN? WANTED TO STAY.
WHERE THEY GREW UP?
THEY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO.
THAT WAS REAL RENAISSANCE THE
GENERATIONS.
AND THE WAY IT IS TRENDED.
THEY COULDN'T WHETHER THEY
WANTED TO OR NOT. THERE WERE NO
JOBS.
AND I WAS AROUND AS A SENATOR
FROM THE TIME WHEN.
ALL OF THESE.
MILLS WERE CLOSING DOWN.
THEN I GOT TO KNOW THE PEOPLE.
THE NO LONGER HAVE JOBS.
THIS IS NOT. GOOD FOR ONE SIDE
OR GOOD FOR THE OTHER. WHAT I
BELIEVE IT YOU'RE ADVOCATING AND
WHAT HAS COME OUT IN THE HEARING
TODAY? IS GOOD FOR ALL AS I SEE
IT. I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND A BEAUTIFUL NOTE TO.
WRAP UP THE HEARING I'D LIKE TO
CREEPED UP ISN'T IT GIVE YOU
OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT WILL
LIKE TO QUEUE UP.
AND WE'LL GIVE YOU ABOUT A
MINUTE EACH WITH THE OUR FREE
THIRTY AVING ARRIVED PLEASE
IDENTIFY YOURSELF YOU HAVE ONE
MINUTE AND TERRY MCHALE WITH
ERIN REED NECESSITY IT'S
REPRESENTING CAL FIRE
FIREFIGHTERS.
UP.
COUPLE THINGS REAL QUICK I MEAN
THESE MEETINGS I'M NEVER
SURPRISED BY THE COURAGE OF
FIREFIGHTERS WE WORKED FOR FORTY
YEARS AND THEY ALWAYS DO
EXTRAORDINARY WORK. BUT I DID
HEAR TODAY THE CHARACTERIZATION
THAT THE MUTUAL AID SYSTEM IN
CALIFORNIA IS FIFTY YEARS OLD.
AND THAT ITS RICKETY THAT'S LIKE
SAYING THAT TELEVISION IS FIFTY
YEARS OLD AND THEY WERE STILL
WATCHING BLACK AND WHITE
TELEVISION ON A TWELVE INCH
SCREEN. THE TRUTH IS THE MUTUAL
AID SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA HAS
MATURED IN EXTRAORDINARY FASHION
AND IS CONSIDERED THE GREATEST
IN THE WORLD. THE BIGGEST
PROBLEM IT HAS IS THAT IN
NINETEEN SEVENTY FIVE WHEN WE
HAD TWENTY FOUR POINT TWENTY.
POINT FOUR ONE MILLION PEOPLE IN
THE WORLD. WE HAD AT LEAST
THIRTY ONE MORE ENGINES WITHIN
CAL FIRE. WE NEED MORE MONEY
MORE MONEY FOR THE MUTUAL AID
SYSTEM AND IT NEEDS TO BE
DIRECTED BY CAL FIRE.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THERE'S A LOT
OF THIS TLK ABOUT PRE
POSITIONING AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
AND IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO SOME.
BUT HERE'S THE CAUTIONARY NOTE.
IF THESE HUNDREDS OF LOCAL
COUNTY OF CITY COUNTY AND FIRE
DISTRICTS ARE ALLOWED TO PREACH
THIS PRE POSITION.
UNDER.
THE WEATHER CONDITIONS.
INDEPENDENT AND SEPARATE FROM
THE MUTUAL AID SYSTEM WE HAVE IN
PLACE WHITE RIGHT NOW. THEN WHAT
WE'RE GOING TO CREATE IS A
COMPETING MUTUAL AID SYSTEM. AND
THAT HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS
THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS YEAR
WILL BE TWO HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS NEXT YEAR AND WHAT WE'RE
GOING TO END UP WITH OUR TWO OH
NINE FUNDS. AND THAT IS
SOMETHING TO BE VERY VERY
CONCERNED WITH ALL WE SUPPORT
LOCAL GOVERNMENT WHILE WE
SUPPORT OUR LOCAL FIREFIGHTERS
BELIEVE THEY DO EXTRAORDINARY
WORK WANT THEM TO GET MORE MONEY
FOR ENGINES WANTING TO GET MORE
MONEY FOR PEOPLE. WE WANT TO BE
CAREFUL WE DON'T CREATE
DUPLICATE MUTUAL AID SYSTEM
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT WITNESS.
HELLO THIS IS DANIEL BROAD FROM
SIERRA CLUB CALIFORNIA I FIRST
OF ALL JUST WANTED TAP BORIS
ARE.
SUPPORT FOR WHAT HAS BEEN SAID
AROUND. PRESCRIBED FIRE AND.
REINTRODUCING FIRE INTO THE
LANDSCAPE IN IT ECOSYSTEMS WE
THINK THAT'S EXTRAORDINARILY
IMPORTANT AND WE'RE GLAD TO SEE
THAT.
REFLECTED IN THIS HEARING AND.
ALSO IN THE LITTLE HOOVER
COMMISSION REPORT. ALSO WITH
REGARDS TO THE REPORT WE WANTED
TAT BOYS ARE SUPPORT FOR THE
RECOMMENDATION.
THAT CONVERSATIONS AROUND FOREST
AND ALSO AROUND BIOMASS
UTILIZATION INVOLVED
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GROUPS.
THESE ARE ON OCCASIONALLY.
A BIO MASS WILL BE UTILIZED AND
BURNED IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES AND HAVE BEEN.
HISTORICALLY LOW INCOME AND AND
EVEN OCCASIONALLY ACROSS THE
STREET FROM ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS
CELL.
WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO.
EMPHASIZE THAT RECOMMENDATION
AND FINALLY.
EARLIER I THINK IT WAS THE
SECOND PANEL THERE WAS.
A I. IT SEEMS FAIRLY OUT
HARMLESS COMMENT ABOUT SALVAGE
LOGGING ON AND POST FIRES. AND I
JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE
THAT.
EVEN SEVERELY BURNED AREAS AFTER
FIRES ARE HOME TO.
I'M A BLACK BACK WHAT PACKER AND
OTHER KEYSTONE SPECIES ALONG
WITH THE NORTHERN SPOTTED OWL
LIKES TO HUNT. IN THOSE AREAS
THESE ARE VITAL ECOSYSTEMS IT'S
NOT A BENIGN ENDEAVOR TO JUST GO
INTO THESE ECOSYSTEMS.
AND TAKE OUT ALL THE LOGS AND.
THAT.
SPRAY PESTICIDES AND THEN RE
PLANT. THEM BUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE
CONSIDERED IS THAT THESE ARE
VITAL ECOSYSTEMS AND THAT'S
OFTEN. A POINT THAT'S NOT MADE
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS
YEAR THANK THANK YOU I THINK IN
THE SECOND ROUND OF THE
SUPERVISOR TALKED ABOUT THE
DEVASTATION OF THE ECOSYSTEM IN
HIS. COMMUNITY AND ACKNOWLEDGED
HOW IMPORTANT IT IS BUT. YOUR
POINT IS WELL TAKEN AND I THANK
YOU.
VERY MUCH.
WITHOUT AGAIN THAT I WOULD LIKE
TO THANK OUR THIRD PANEL WE
APPRECIATE YOU STICKING WITH US.
FOR BOTH OF THE LONG HEARING AND
TODAY'S. HEARING STANDS
ADJOURNED