Opening ceremonies for the
winter Olympics.
You're in the wrong place.
Anybody.
Anyway.
Welcome to dementia schooled
wise burn school district.
If you're here for the joint.
Hearing on education select
committee on defense and
aerospace higher education's
role in perfect pairing
engineers for the aerospace
industry you're in the right
place.
My name's Tom last from a
retired soldier.
I'm also commissioner with
osseous department military
veterans affairs Muscovites
chair of the South Bay aerospace
alliance born that a little bit.
Later.
Now for some housekeeping stuff
the restrooms are outside that
door.
To the right wants his men one
says women you've figured out.
The everything in this
apartment real if you see
something say something look for
the closest emergency exit.
Their summer fresh respect
there on behalf of us senator
Allen other some material you
probably have. Of the agenda
here that all be explained to
you.
It in a little bit.
We're here to talk about the
aerospace industry. And.
Where a ground zero of the
aerospace industry so important
southern California? So
important.
To Los Angeles county and so
important to the South Bay. UC
immediately located across the
street as Los Angeles airforce
base which has been here since
the fifties.
But pertaining that was that far
back in the twenties we had.
Douglas or building airplanes
here we had Jack Northrop at.
Hostile and.
We've got.
Boeing hip hop by the way how
many people here know that the
largest.
Satellite manufacturing plant in
the world. Is a mile down the
road.
This could be a test on this now
okay okay.
Also by the way the largest
aircraft manufacturing plant
world is eight miles down PCH.
Towards airport Robinson
helicopters
they make small helicopters but
they make six hundred fifty a
year. As part of the heritage.
Legacy of the aerospace industry
here.
You've got.
A virgin that just moved here
Aerojet just came down we got
Raytheon or got Lockheed Martin
and we got to.
SpaceX.
And let's hear it for a Balcon
heavy dilly deli.
Bill wait a.
Histories here one the reasons
you're you're is we want to keep
that industry here and we're
going to do that through higher
education and talented workforce
that are in the in this area. I
mentioned.
The.
Air aerospace alliance.
I've passed some of these out.
And in in the better interest of
time.
You can refer to that but I
want to read the preamble to
save time the mission of the
South Bay aerospace clients.
Is to promote the interests of
local aerospace industry through
the broad base of community
members who value the presence
of the L. airforce base to the
stock be read. At all levels of
government.
By local community business
including those aerospace and
defense contractors educators
who have.
Decades of experience working a
critical space and defense
programs that have created the.
Read his reputation for
in home for this industry and
upset adding on to this.
But where I'd like to introduce
the chair of the alliance.
Michael I don't moonwalk
Jackson were you Michael.
Of.
Anyway.
Please stand with me as we
pledged allegiance to our by.
I pledge allegiance to the flag.
The United States of America.
And suitable. Richard stands.
One nation. God indivisible with
liberty and justice for all.
Thank you very much and now I'd
like to introduce love your host
Senate about Allen has been a
senator.
In the twenty six districts
since two thousand fifteen. He's
from Santa Monica went to
Harvard.
Didn't any you pursue Cambridge
and came back went to Berkeley
goddess J. P. and got is.
Passed the bar two thousand
eight decided pan was paid here
to pay off his student loans.
So he became an attorney.
But.
Key knows higher education
based upon.
His his education so he
appreciates.
That leadership in influence
that's in the year the room
today.
But he has a chair of the
higher in the Education
Committee for the Senate vice
chair of the aerospace and
defense.
Committee on the aviation
caucus and also on the.
Innovation technology caucus
ladies and gentleman. Your host
the honorable Ben Elton.
Well thank you so much Tom Tom
is Ben a fantastic cheerleader
for our our wonderful South Bay
aerospace.
And economy in community and has
played such an important role in
the the growth of this aerospace
alliance that we're all working
on to make sure that we keep.
Aerospace jobs and innovation
right here in our area I wanna
spend this a quick second to
introduce a fantastic member of
our education committee my
wonderful partner in crime Scott
Wilk our vice chair. Republican
ranking member on the Education
Committee used to spend a great
partner.
And a good friend
and Scott bad trips all over
town for north county Los
Angeles today on the four five
and I you and Jeff.
So he is he's just pan it as a a
wonderful guy a great guy to
work with wonderful senator. And
done and very committed and I I
I do you. That the promise
absolute stance because next
hearing in your district.
Still have a chance to come up
and learn about all the
interesting things happening out
there which by the way is it
important center as well for for
air space and.
There's like a lot of
partnership.
.
That that's happening between
sites here in this South Bay
community and also north county
in the areas.
Up toward ridge crest in and so
there's so much going on we knew
we you folks may know that
aerospace courses a larger.
Revenue for the state of
California Ben and entertainment
industry than agriculture.
It's it it's a pretty amazing
thing that sometimes is lost in
that broad discussion. Of of of
our of our various industries in
Sacramento so.
This is a an opportunity for us
to bring together two committees
of the state Senate the
Education Committee and we are
fantastic chief consultant Allen
more purpose come down from
Sacramento to serve here. And
then also the Senate select
committee on defense and
aerospace which I. vice would
I'm the vice chair. Of I'm I
will also take a moment to to
think Alina who really stepped
up and extraordinary way one of
our.
And one of our I've just
rejected non pregnancy leave in
a León that kind of.
Step right into the into the
Roland incredible work points to
that I just wanna give you
around applause León.
The house.
So we're talking today about.
The workforce needs of the
aerospace industry how are
partners in higher education are
preparing engineers.
And this conversation.
Into comes not only because of
the well let's talk about the
heavy importance of of very
space to the the broader
California economy so. Odd that
they mention the exigencies
revenues in the state are sixty
one point six billion dollars
annually that is roughly
equivalent to the revenues of
California agriculture
entertainment. Industries come
by.
So we're proud here in the South
Bay.
That that some folks refer to
this area of the brain trust of
the states aerospace industry
here we have of.
You know I'm all sorts of
incredible technologies and
innovations that have good have
been invented here just a few
miles from where we're sitting
today so.
Weather forecasting wireless
and long distance
telecommunications computer
joysticks.
Walter water filters the
artificial heart electric car
all.
Originating in in this area and
of course you've got though the
the L. airforce base that is it
the anchor. Of this local.
This local economy it's it's
the only active duty military
base in the alley that's home to
the space and missile. Systems
center which develops deploys
insistence the US military space
systems including G. P. S.
military satellite
communications.
I. defense meteorological
satellites in space based
infrared systems
I meant.
Largely as a result of the
presence of the. Airforce base
we then have all these companies
that sort of and work with the
airforce base Boeing and
Lockheed Martin Northrop Grumman
Raytheon aerospace corporation
the list goes. On and on and on
and these are all companies that
are employing thousands of
people are high skilled. Good
paying jobs.
So we had an opportunity not too
long ago to sit down with
similar airspace leaders.
And one of the big challenges
that are that have continued to
come up with our industry
leaders is just about the
pipeline of of.
Of you know folks coming out of
a car which is and and concerns
about the extent to which.
Students are coming up with
strong stand backgrounds and and
and they were able to recruit
them into aerospace jobs a lot
of folks are. You know you know
about that ex getting jobs in
the tech industry in silicon
beach and and and and they're so
many synergies that exist
between silicon beach.
And the aerospace industry but
unlike a lot of our.
Allow the private sector
friends you the airspace
initiative be hiring folks M.
overseas because they're pretty
serious rules about.
Background check in security
clearance and that sort of thing
we need to. Be be be really
making sure that we got a strong
homegrown pipeline. To fill
those jobs in their very
exciting challenging interesting
jobs that are the cutting edge.
Of of technological development
and so it's our goal that we
help to ensure the California
remains the undisputed worldwide
center of commercial academic.
And government related aerospace
activity and all that economic
and academic and.
And.
And societal benefits that go
with it. So first we're gonna
here we're gonna talk about
these issues were and talk about
what we in the legislature can
do to help to address this
pipeline challenge and then and
then talk about ways that we can
work on bipartisan legislation
and. To assist with this after.
So we're gonna hear from
airspace industry
representatives about their work
for status and needs.
We'll be asking key questions
are we producing enough
engineers in the aerospace field
are they entering the industry
prepared for the current day.
Demands of the job.
And they don't have represented
some local colleges and
universities that lead in
preparing engineers for the
aerospace industry.
And they will discuss their
programs and challenges and then
we'll hear from existing
successful and innovative
partnerships in program models.
And I I will say that it's it's
no coincidence that we're here
at the board offices of the
dementia schools.
Which are a very innovative
consortium of charter schools
that are working on a whole slew
of science related topics and
I've had the opportunity for the
school year if you do get a
chance.
Please do check out the the for
schools that they have here on
the campus really exciting
interesting innovative work.
And was it was an extraordinary
partnership with higher
education getting the students.
More more engaged in in in
lifelong careers in stem.
So I got a couple great folks I
want to recognize here today are
Maribel segundos en Fuentes my
good friend gives you Suzanne.
I know we got the mayor pro tem
Jude boils is here I believe to
he's reasons why.
At a spelling bee okay well I
hope he wins.
.
We get it.
We got those we got a couple
more so it Bates Carolyn dawn
then over here from the else
again though city councils what
I see as.
We all know we've got a very
robust I've in a partnership
between the cities of the south
pan and we've got two good
friends from.
From other I. beach city so our
council member from Redondo
Beach question what about this
year I C. Christian.
And then Hannah Frank Gehry
fresh off his reelection I think
he's on his way.
From from my the from Hermosa
beach as an arson attacks guy
Houston. Our good friend from
the water board.
It is here.
And we've had representatives
from from all sorts of of of
educational sectors that we'll
be hearing from as well so. Out
without I love to give the
opportunity for our wonderful
based your center Wilk to make a
couple comments and we'll start
the panels.
Catholic M. crash in a private
party
so. And we need to. We need to
attract that talent and and and
the service based companies. Are
actually more interesting I
think that a lot of that why the
tax stuff and actually bring
greater value to our lives then.
Face Booker I. Twitter. So
while I'm so excited to learn
today to see what we can take.
Back to Sacramento and
introduce policies that are.
Provided better business
climate for this particular
industries without let's move
forward okay.
Let me.
.
It'd be panel we've got.
First.
I. Marianne costar who's the
director of human resources at
Boeing.
And while they're making their
way up to the front desk I. I
just wanna if you guys could
come to make your way up I also
want to take a moment out
working with the Lena. On
helping to put this together we
have we have to fantastic young
people I. Davis sign in and
Richard park and I want them to
wave and I want to give them a
round of applause.
My god so let's start with bill.
From the experts corporation.
They could Senate around center
Wilk shape the option to be here
today. And I'm still Matheson
aerospace corporation and the
principal director of taught
acquisition.
And I'm honored to say that my
family has over since nineteen
forty two.
Been involved in Northrop excuse
me.
.
North American aviation.
The Boeing corporation and
Rockwell.
So. With regards to arm
aerospace were F. of RTC.
So that's a federally funded
research and development center.
Established in nineteen sixty.
And we're the only space at a
forty C..
So now we're very proud of.
We built on a hundred percent
mission assurance insuring
resilience based enterprise.
And committed to addressing the
future needs of our country.
And our customers.
We currently employ over four
thousand employees seventy three
percent of those employees are.
And we employ over seven hundred
fifty of those are PH DS.
So that role in education or
work forces
of critical importance to us.
So addressing our status in our
needs.
So currently center down you
spoke about this Wilk.
The lack of clear bill talent.
It's of critical importance to
us currently Metuchen nanosecond.
With an aging workforce.
The current work force
according to a survey from PWC
the average age of the workforce
is forty two. The average age of
the aerospace industry force.
It's fifty two.
According to aviation week.
A huge gap.
We have nontraditional
destructive companies
looking at a clear tone as well.
We're looking at skills similar
to these companies mechanical
engineering. Electrical
engineering.
.
Artificial intelligence
cyber.
Material sciences.
Software development.
Of course aerospace.
Stress cyber.
Begin the challenges.
According Dodd to depart the
labor survey and also PWC survey.
We have a and approximate twenty
five to thirty five percent.
Gap in our in our submit are not
supply Mattel supply.
And that gap is wider.
For a clear talent.
Some the things that were doing
with our with corporation are
trying to get to the university
level sooner.
To try to attract those student
with regards to our industry.
There's been events with regards
to se clearer ball software town
again on the streets clear of
all. Tour they will pass us by
to go to that tack Facebook's to
Google's.
View nontraditional them you
know corporations who also have
clear talent as well Amazon has
a large cadre out of includes
offering here is working on that
thing.
And so we are we are faced with
not only a shortage of clear
talent but town going to other
corporations and they're being
cleared and sort talent pipeline
each dish ranking.
At the university level.
Foreign nationals.
Highly educated highly skilled
we cannot hire them our
corporation.
Almost a hundred percent of our
technical workforce is cleared.
Again a huge challenge what do
we do.
Cost of living in California the
aerospace corporation is a
national corporation.
But we hire the majority of our
corporation is and also going to
California were attached to the
airforce base river bridge going
back and forth so.
Yeah something very near and
dear to our heart. I'm one of
the challenges that we face and
something that.
I've been speaking a lot to a
lot of people about is through
our recruiting efforts we need
to find students who actually.
Or either from California. Or
have ties to California so they
stay. Wind vest a lot with our
Krugman our training these are
highly skilled engineers. We
invest supply and our government
partners in just a lot with
regards to attain their security
clearances. They start off the
season wonderful needs to see
the wonderful climate here you
know they move for people to an
apartment and then all Senate
for having families.
They say this is too expensive
can't live here now the reader.
Committing themselves to huge
commutes income disenfranchised
quickly and they're leaving.
With regards to our corporations
needs up last year we hired over
four hundred twelve.
Engineers.
Huge hours are higher tech are
hires hiring totals in his
direct reparation.
This year we're gonna do more.
And I'm more nervous never
happened about my my ability my
teams have been incorporated
ability to meet that need.
And they keep asking me what do
you need what Fini.
Resources are wonderful findings
wonderful out which is wonderful
but I'm really concerned about
the number of clear Wilk talent.
Out there who any point you
touched on this.
Are excited about our industry.
Some things that we're doing
we're getting were becoming out
of the shadows.
Really promoting the work that
we're doing because we are
involving cutting edge
innovation.
It is really cool work it's
exciting work.
The did the mission is of
critical importance to our
nation and our future success.
And so we're really doing a lot
of work with regards to our
outreach our education.
We are hyper focus at the
university level with cd-rom
building partnerships at
strategic schools earlier.
Starting this is not traditional
for aerospace
but starting at the freshman and
sophomore level.
To get them engaged to get them
interested in our corporations
and so that we're building
internships.
And then moving those in the
fulltime opportunities.
This year we will we will hire
over two hundred sixteen turns
across our corporation that's a
large number four corporation
for roughly four thousand
employees.
And we have it our our goal is
to hire one hundred sixty five
new college grads.
Very aggressive goal something
that's something that is
challenging but we know that we
need to do this now. Because our
workforce is G. is aging.
And.
Along with that working on our
succession plans.
To bridge that knowledge gap.
So we know what we have to do
this it's of critical importance
to our. To the future of a
corporation and ensuring a
hundred percent mission success
no corporation.
.
One thing that is I'd said I was
going to go back to his with
regards to cyber.
Dodd and software development
there is such a shortage across
industry. We are all competing
against one another. We are all
paying almost to infinity to
employ these people only to see
them leave.
And go to other corporate you
know put other corporations in
either in even you know not
aerospace for some corporations.
And it's I've asked a question.
We may not be able to find this
talent we would not be able to
keep this talent would be and we
may not be able to need to
construct commercial.
So this is the business of
grandstand.
That's a hard question to ask.
We come to the point in the
realization that you may not
have enough people to actually
fulfill your mission.
Is this the business that we're
gonna continue to be.
So I don't know the answer. I'm
hoping to help.
You know what the solution and
everything I can but.
And Furthermore just looking at
the Washington DC area knows
about California.
The unemployment rate there for
cleared talent is zero.
Almost every single position
that's filled it's just a change
but badge.
So we are negative with regards
to filling up our.
So I think if we're time today
and open to any questions you
may have.
Well thank you really do
appreciate one we.
Here from miss costs and then
made the two of you guys can sit
here at the pan on M. and will
have it up.
Discussion.
And thank you.
When and senator Wilk thank you
for having us I. Marianne Kosar
director of human resources.
For the Boeing company here in
el Segundo.
For our satellite systems
program.
So I I've worked in aerospace
business here in California for
the last twenty eight years.
Similar to fill I to have a
family history in an aerospace.
.
My mother worked for McDonnell
Douglas and.
Asked me if I was interested in
joining the company and I
thought well I'll join it as a
temp higher for a few months.
And twenty eight years later I'm
still Tom working in aerospace
so I'm.
It I was quickly intrigued by
the industry and really.
Never looks back but if you
could ask me twenty eight years
ago if I would go and aerospace
I would've told to.
Now.
I was actually a teacher.
.
So majority of mice that
experience really has been in
the human resources field.
Prior to.
Moving up to el Segundo I spent
the last twelve years in
employee compensation.
.
Supporting all of our military
programs across.
The country so I did I did get
armed the opportunity to see the
different challenges that we
face out here in California.
Verses other parts of the
country arm.
And similar to what you
mentioned feel on that.
The shortage of engineering
skill.
Is not only.
Something that we face here in
California but it's.
.
Clearly something that the whole
country faces so.
We're all in this together.
And this morning I really do
though what I share with you the
challenges arm and the
opportunities that we face
related to talent acquisition.
And development here in our
region.
But I want to give you an of.
An opportunity to understand
what Boeing's foot print really
looks like hearing. In
California. We have thirteen
thousand employees in California
that work in various locations
throughout the state.
The largest concentration is
here in the Los Angeles area.
We have major sites in el
Segundo in Huntington beach in
seal beach and in Long Beach.
Boeing spans the commercial
aviation satellite manufacturing
military aircraft sustainment
new markets such as autonomous
and expanded operations and our
commercial airplane business.
So we do have a very large
footprint across the country as
well as like I said here in
California.
Each one of our sites have its
own unique requirements for
hiring. And its own retention
challenges.
.
That its own retention
challenges for example modes of
our commercial work is performed
up in Washington in the Seattle
area.
So on they too have a very high
demand for various engineering
skills. However they don't face
the clearance challenges that we
do for many of our programs here
as he mentioned.
Fell.
As well as the clearance
challenges at the Washington DC
area faces as well.
They have other challenges to
face that we don't witches.
Helpful they have whether
challenges for example that we
don't have here in California.
That slows down production our
sunshine keeps our production
going to is a good thing.
No matter the requirements are
the challenges as a company we
do want to always attract the
best talent available. So we
provide a wide range of
development opportunities for
our employees throughout
borrowing.
As a company we've made the
decision to really began.
Focusing in and putting a
greater investment and high
bearing and developing and eight
priority areas. That we believe
are pivotal to the future.
Their production engineering the
data and science analytics field.
Supplier management and
production.
Is another key area for us
cybersecurity.
Program management.
Software engineering systems
engineering.
And also marketing and settles.
So those key areas are.
Call and
stay awhile but then they
always look to go back home
where ever hold maybe.
Lucky for us Boeing is spread
across the country so often
times as a company we don't lose
fat talents.
That we do find ourselves doing
a lot of relocation into other
parts of the country.
There are other challenges to
beyond the cost of living such
as the long commutes I heard you
both mentioned the four or five
freeway which is near and dear
to my heart also. Near I doubt
it's deer yeah yeah yeah yeah.
On a side note I I've.
Script Tom.
I will tell you that I just
started commuting from
Huntington beach up telephone
gunned down.
And so I have found that my car
is now an extremely important to
me.
Much more so than in my prior
what when my commute was about
ten minutes.
Now much much longer so.
Good for the automotive industry
I suppose.
I am.
Active back to topic here and
like I said.
That.
Besides the cost of living the
commute.
In the heavy traffic and the
layout of transportation options
that are available. Is also a
challenge
so we're really having to find
ourselves taking advantage of.
Flexible work schedules
allowing employees to work from
home as much as pot possible
virtual work. That becomes
challenging for those that need
to work.
In a skiff or those with a
clearance
we have a difficult time with
that.
M. are highly skilled workforce
particularly though engineering
and the available availability.
Future talent really is critical
to our vision and a mission and
our mission at the Boeing
company.
I no one can touch the
engineering talent pool that's
available here in California.
Truth anywhere else in the
United States really we believe
anywhere else in the world
really have top talent here in
California.
So we partner very closely with
eleven key universities with in
a fifty mile radius of our Elsa
Gondo's fight.
And thirteen universities with
and a sixty mile radius of our
seal beach facility.
These universities offer
accredited engineering
curriculums
and most offer advanced degrees
in key fields of interest to us.
The availability of future
talent and leading academic
institutions that are produced
in that talent. Is really
unmatched
most of our top talent within
the company. Does come from our
local schools as a matter of
fact are vice president at the
satellite systems up facility
received his master's degree and
a lack in electrical engineering
from USC.
The classified programs in our
satellite business also have
unique challenges and
requirements.
They have different level of
clearance needs
which can often take two years
or longer. To receive.
So that true it does limit our
candidate pool. And puts the
employees.
Really added advantage and and
were all competing for talent as
as Phil mentioned.
And.
So were not only faced with
finding unique engineering
skills but we have that added.
Added restraint as far as
clearances go and the costs
associated with them.
Like I mentioned up borrowing
does remain committed to the
region and to the state of
California because we had such a
highly skilled workforce.
Especially in engineering and
the availability of future
talent and leading academic
institutions that are producing
that talent.
Its really vital to our interest
D..
And it it gives us the ability
to really compete.
And.
The aerospace industry.
With a century of innovation
under our belt Boeing is
committed to inspiring in
preparing the next turn nation.
Of innovators.
And we have that talent here in
California.
I in fact when I was told today
about the hearing that it was
taking place at the divinity
school's.
I found that it was really be
fitting.
Because as we talk here today
about the.
Boeing just
California that we want to
team you.
We.
Produced the space shuttle
program here at the Apollo as
well as the delta rocket program
here.
And hopefully today's discussion
will.
.
We'll have more opportunity to
talk with you about some of the
issues that we have here. And it
will allow bowing to continue on
and remain part of the
California legacy.
Well thank you both I really do
appreciate your.
Presentations in your work.
Building tap here in our
community here in our state.
Aren't I love to just get a.
It very interesting your for
discussion and I suppose it
seems as though a lot of the
issues at the heart of your
challenges and Mister Matthews
are.
A little beyond our control the
state level many that you know.
Bob Clarence.
And I and I certainly any given
all of the threats that exist in
the world today and every.
Tom I turn on the news there's a
new kind of.
Foreign attempt on our
sovereignty.
It I I I certainly. Be hard for
me to suggest any kind of
relaxation of clearance rules
but can you can you talk a bit
about. The conversation going on.
Within the aerospace community
about clearance are there some
things that we need to keep in
mind the state level at both as
steep makers but also.
Having Lara friends will be
Congress in and elsewhere. That
we are in about the clearance a
system that they might be
helpful for us to to think about.
Sure absolutely I think that's a
that's a great question. And
something that.
Islam is a hurdle for us
currently when we did find saved
you know that that talent and we
are hiring a lot again from you
for cities.
And.
You know experience people out
you know outside of industry in
trying to obtain clearance.
Are currently the back ought to
obtain a top secret security
clearance with certain access is
on that.
Is anywhere around a year and a
half to two years.
So what that means is were
hiring people and then they're
not working with their work
groups not integrated with the
customer. Not seeing the
projects.
And.
That.
Wayne's.
After time they're working and
and white rooms are working on.
You know maybe white papers and
things of that nature but they
they can't touch you need a
product projects he can't seem
to be innovation. And a lot of
times they it they actually
become.
Disenfranchised with with the
employer.
And the Aptana clearances and
having had a really bad it had a
great experience for those two
years when they've been waiting
for it. In during that time they
made it look for something else.
And they're vulnerable to leave
either in industry are outside
industry. That's an issue.
So that Beth backlogs his
illusion disillusioned
disillusioned.
That backlog is a huge
challenge for us.
So anything that we can do to
speed up that process I'm not
sure if it's a resource issue
manpower issue just the length
of time it takes actually obtain
wanna go the investigations but.
It is it is a challenge what is
your W. do either of you have
some insight maybe.
As as to what the challenges why
why is it why there is such a
backlog M. is it that there.
Doing that's
diligent work that it takes time
or is or is is there a resource
problem.
That we should be addressing
with our friends at the part at
that part of the federal level
from what my understanding is it
is a resource issue that backlog.
Somebody told me that there is
over forty two thousand Clarence
that currently in backlog trying
to trying to go through. And so
that's just.
It's the most critical ones you
know I'm sure get a phone call
in to move to the top of the
pile. But the other one you know
that they wait it literally that
I've been told that this stacks
of paper on the desk
electronically of course.
But it's just when your number
comes up your number comes up
and I can call my security
department to check on. You can
get the status of X. Y. Z.. And
that's when I contacted a
context and it's it's it it is a
huge issue.
Speeding that up. And when were
in the recruitment process.
The ability to inform somebody.
We're gonna hire you and you
should be able to expect your
clearance within you know.
For six months or something of
that nature.
It puts us in a much better
position to.
.
Track them
pull them out of do you know
nontraditional has this become
serve about advocacy and
lobbying priority for your
respective companies in
Washington would in your. Folks
are going to hell in talking
administration image.
It seems up it's becoming a
serious challenge and do your
you give it.
Previous.
I I. if pessimistic
presentations and.
Extent in I. N. as are robust go
well but it and at the heart of
it seem to be this.
HR challenge wouldn't admit
which at the heart of which is
this clearance challenge.
Yes absolutely.
Yeah apologists being
overlooked that's domestic Allen.
It's Ben to do so November
player honestly that all C. yeah
absolutely it is a challenge
that you know specifically or
corporation space we have what
you know work that doesn't
require clearance.
Course were much more successful
in that and we are very
successful hiring we are very
close successful high people.
You know with clearances but I
C. along the lines even with the
retirement bubble you know they
did they need to continued
fuller pipeline. And.
Well we we are successful today
albeit with challenges I work a
lot about the future and blue
that's far here.
With with respect to the
lobbying arm on the hill is
something that I need to
investigate further. We can list
established our center for space
policy.
That's headed higher but the
doctor Jamie morning so that's
something I can definitely bring
to his attention M.. Why I'm
sure both those who appreciate
hearing?
?
The answer that it in and also.
M. you know appreciate your
listing us in. Assisting with
those advocacy efforts.
On a bipartisan level with our
with our partners Congress if
you have any comment Jim any
thoughts on this miss because
started anything that you know
any insights into this issue. M.
we've we face as I mentioned
similar talents it's around the
clearances and I do believe that
it is a resource issue from what
I understand.
I as far as the question around
lobbying I. I would suspect that
the answer is yes but I.
Mike I can't access can
for Lara.
Lara project.
It's got to be something that's
going.
So we have this pipeline issue
which I'm very familiar with his
own life there spacer now
retiring.
.
So.
When we try to animate young
people Ted to look at this as a
career eyes any best practices
out there Mike is their target
age and if there is.
What do we do when and where
were what new things can we do
to sparked that interest in in
the industry?
But I think that.
Martin I'll go.
So I I. we I have become very
involved.
In the at the elementary school
level we have a lot of our bad
leaders and out there with the.
Kids participating in science
fairs. Going in giving.
Talks to the classrooms and
trying to.
.
Bring awareness to the aerospace
industry that it is a fine
industry to be M. reminding
folks for as Boeing as it is a
brand fits very well known so.
You can tap in even at the
kindergarten level most children
have been on in an airplane and
kind of launch from there if you
will.
.
So we're trying to get the word
out there that we believe it is
a fine exciting industry.
Just as interesting as going to
work for a Facebook or Google.
Or even in California you know
the entertainment industry.
You no aerospace is just as cool
as the air entertainment is just
too so we're trying to start way
way down.
At the elementary school level.
I had the answer to where some
of the sites from it locally
with tragically doing it's
pretty cool stuff that they're
doing.
And
you know love to get you
connected with them stick with
his any projects in your
district.
It's a they they get the kids
working on engineering projects
from a very young age and they
you know that we got seasonal
fourth graders. With. Handheld
remote. Moving robots all over
the room and it was it was very
cool. Well enacts the it's great
for.
The employees to it works to
our advantage it really builds
engagement.
I
for us people love getting out
into the communities and working
with.
.
You know our future talent so it
it works in our favor as well we
strongly encourage it.
I would I would agree with that
on what I've seen I'm fortunate
enough that I have a two
daughters nine incidents with
third first grade.
And where they go to school they
are exposed to stem have after
school programs that we choose
to put them and. And they have
been very excited about
engineering about stem. Of you
know what are you know talks
about being an astronaut and and
you know goes back and forth
between the shafts psyched work
automatically. But. It's the
earlier we can get to them the
better because I believe you
know at the university.
It's it's it's too late now to
get a couple class courses in
high school at the university it
way too late to try to. You know
turn that.
So again I'm I'm very fortunate
that my daughters are exposed to
that and I'm sure because of you
know what I do for a living I
talk to. Them about that a lot
so it's
you know that triangle parents
schools.
Everything it industry.
But what I what I known when I
understand that opportunity is
not afforded to every school
across every elementary school
in California nothing I believe.
That we need to work on
because a lot of students in a
lot of areas. And it's you know
I don't not sure if it's
resource curriculum whatever the
case may be. But I know from
this research in speaking with
people. That's not across.
I know you are you just
mentioned it's too late when
gets a higher ed of.
But without major car yet
instead are the person are do
you.
Is there a gold standard hired
relationship that exists in the
state that you wanna.
The thing we got a I like.
And any sort of particularly
strong partnership or program
that and.
Which you that you've seen
either either in the California
elsewhere in that do you think.
We can learn some lessons from
try scale.
Yeah I think that and we're
doing a lot of work on this in a
bush we have on we've put in
place what we. Eight target
schools and of those targets
schools or this kind of a pilot
program that we're working on
and that's with you know
research dollars.
I'm capstone projects
recruitment and really investing
heavily university. U. S. C.
UCLA Santa Barbara those are
part of our schools and all in
it and also on which state.
Those are some of our you know
former California schools that
were really making a concerted
effort to push with. For also no
invested in of course cal tech
and in other areas so you know
across the state but USC UCLA we
have.
You know deep relationships
with or continuing to build
those and really.
Again get to the student Cerner
sooner help build curriculum
programs and things of that
nature so I would say.
We're really building upon that
and.
But it's growing and those
would be kind of a couple of
gold standards I would point to.
Yeah I work we are targeting
similar I universities the other
thing that we're starting to
expand.
.
And put more emphasis in is at
the community college level as
well. So we're working closely
with el Comino college at we're
really starting to Pradhan.
Are few from a higher education
perspective and and trying data.
To get involved with thought
like I said the community
colleges as well as that the
universities.
What answer I think gives is a
perfect segue to the next panel
or we've got represent us from
UCLA USC and I'll Camino college?
So we can learn a bit about
this partnership from their
perspective.
And done really do appreciate
your for your time and attention
and your your insights into this
again and they're inordinately
important issue will.
I think Allen we ought also
circle happened and talk Lou
either of what we can do to
assist with a federal strategy
so city with some of the
clearance challenges that you're
facing on the H. R. side.
So thank you so much for your
participation and let's go now
because of the piano.
For discussion on the
engineering pipeline from
California from higher education
respectively got. Doctor Andrea
belts who's the vice dean of
technology innovation
entrepreneurship at the USC
Viterbi school of engineering so
if you could come up.
And take C. here I. doctor Chris
Lynch professor mechanical and
aerospace engineering from UCLA.
Doctor Tim Fischer who's
professor of mechanical space
engineering as well from UCLA.
And the doctor D. Maloney I'd
super Ted and president develop
community because district. And
David Gonzalez dean of industry
technology from a community from
El Camino college and I want to
just.
I give of a personal thanks to.
To doctor Maloney present money
for a wonderful tour the campus.
A couple days ago al Camino.
So. Cuba Sheila USC together.
.
To discuss Mitchell societal
challenges which we can bring
you together what imagine what
changes we can make to.
Washington DC okay so why we
start with them with professor
belts. And it folks you're
welcome to speak on the podium
or from the the table whatever
you prefer.
Okay great.
Eternity. I serve as the vice
dean of technology innovation
entrepreneurship at the
university of southern
California pitched the school of
engineering. I came to.
To LA twenty five years ago to
go to graduate school at cal
tech I. PhD in physics I then
went to G. P. Allen did a post
doctoral fellowship. And then
set up a consulting practice
working with both small
companies and large
organizations I consulted as a
systems engineer to NASA for
many years. Joined USC's faculty
five years ago and took on this
role year and a half ago.
And one of the questions I get
asked how do you define
innovation and so we really
think of innovation as invention
to impact.
What is that process how do we
train our students appropriately?
A large part of our activities
revolve around supporting what
is happening in silicon beach.
And part of what I'd like to
talk about is the overlap
between silicon beach and the
aerospace industry because they
are certainly not divorced from
one another. And of course we
also strongly support our
friends in the large an
established organizations as
well.
So I'm just gonna talk a little
bit about the importance from
the federal perspective. In in
particular from the perspective
of the National Science
Foundation which is our leading
agency to support basic research
we have a major activity with
them. All talk about the
implementation operations we've
built and then some of the
impact.
A you may not realize that most
net new jobs are created by new
companies so it's I know it's
difficult to read the scale it's
over twenty years. The top line
shows the new jobs are created
by companies that are between
zero one five years old.
So if you care about jobs you
care about startups.
Bates Irma's engines of growth
and disproportionate way but one
of reasons that there's a lot of
concern in Washington is because
the number of start ups. Has
declined systematically over the
last forty years and this is in
an environment where there are
number of barriers that had
really disappeared LLC's did not
exist in the late seventies and
do today. You can file a lot of
that paperwork online the cost
of hosting a software solution
has gone down by orders of
magnitude just the last ten
years. So this is actually a
surprising finding and of great
interest in in.
.
In Washington.
Another fact that may not be
well appreciated is that
portents of intellectual
property.
So intellectual property
comprises trademarks brands
patents trade secrets and if you
look at this chart bill which
was created by an agency an
organisation inside the chamber
of commerce.
You can see that we spend
something like three hundred
billion dollars a year in
research and development and yet
the output of jobs Assoc are the
output of the products
associated with intellectual
property. Is about twenty times
bigger now of course that output
is based on investment that
happened many years earlier
there's a lag but it is still
true that what we put in. Gets
multiplied on the way out and
that Furthermore the wages are
roughly fifty K. which is higher
than the average wage and it
includes the wages of the people
who are not directly attached to
creating intellectual property.
So another way of saying it is
that if you have a secretary
added organization like Boeing
aerospace wanted organizations
we heard from earlier. All the
all the roles whether they're
creating the patents are not all
those roles. End up with better
wages so there's a major
multiply or an intellectual and
in economic output.
Intellectual property represents
the majority of S. and P. five
hundred market value so the
chart on the right goes from
nineteen seventy five to twenty
fifteen. And it represents the
difference between book value
and market value so in the
seventies most of the market
value of companies was captured
by what's on the balance sheet
property and plant and equipment.
Things that you can touch only
seventeen percent was captured
by things like patents and
brands and all those numbers
have reversed forty years later
so the. Public markets recognize
the value of intellectual
property. And it's been
estimated that something like
thirty percent of the nasdaq
value comes from university
based hard early funded research.
So.
The university research at
intellectual property jointly
form report part of our economy
as a nation.
So we can ask the question who
does publicly funded research
and development if you look at
where federal dollars go. What
kind of work is done by
universities and by industries?
If you look at the chart on the
left it shows the spending in
universities and the blue line
is the basic research so over
the last sixty years.
Universities really have
dominated the world of basic
research where as an industry.
It the most advanced development
the green light on the top.
The red intermediate line is
applied research and you can see
that it's really shared between
universities and industry so we
can ask ourselves the question
what does that handoff look like.
Me you go from basic to the most
advanced research.
In transitioning from
universities to industry.
At that process is important in
workforce development because so
much to research that's done. Is
driven by the students who are
at the university doing it.
So this process of fun basic
research also is the process of
training our workforce.
In terms of what is the federal
spending on research and
development this organizes the
child does spend by agency over
the last forty years. And the
big red blob on the bottom is
the department of defense.
So roughly half of our Andy
budget is defense related and
then.
A second place is and I age and
then under that are any other
agencies you're familiar with.
So the reason there is growing
concern in Washington comes from
articles like this that came out
in the Wall Street journal.
Silicon Valley stumbles beyond
software this happening with
China I know it's hard to D.
this chart on the far left but
the look white line on the top
is U. S. spending in our Andy.
And the red light is China and
this chart expands about nine
years.
So you can see how are the are
indeed spend has been changing
in China specifically.
So we created an office at U. S.
C. to launch ventures with
social and economic impact based
on our faculty students and
technologies.
And we really look at invention
as being the intersection of
various disciplines.
And one of our species is the
idea that it's not it's not just
a single stem background
mechanical engineering today
requires some understanding of
electrical engineering. Or
complicate things technologies
if you're interested in the
internet of things application
of air are any of cool terms and
we talk about today. It's clear
that you're going to need to
between these fields as well as
understanding the field depth.
You're all familiar with the
term it wouldn't be this chart
shows you a little bit of a map
of where the action is in LA and.
Some of the colours refer you
can see the green green dollar
sign refer to capital.
I M. so this shows you ready how
someone can beach has grown from
Santa Monica where it began
going down south around airport
and down into the South Bay you
may remember that a lot of this
was due. Even by that decline in
the values of commercial real
estate after the after the dive
fight to cry as of two thousand
I'm. So we went from having
couple isn't incubator Cannella
county in January of twenty
eleven to having thirty five
incubators. I. eighteen months
later that's who a month that
were created some of the have
not survived but many of them
have been really hectic the
genesis a number of very
interesting company.
And these are some of the
residents of silicon each.
The know. Ecosystem is going to
survive out the role of fortune
five hundred companies to serve
as strategic partners.
So there's what set of companies
which is what we think of the
tech companies there's another
side of course which are friends
in the aerospace industry but.
We see a lot of overlap in the
interests of the students
between those two communities.
So silicon beach is certainly
growing these are some nice
articles that talk about the
silicon beach. Movement and what
has been happening in LA over
the last years.
I some people don't realize that
we actually have the highest
number of high tech employees in
the country we have more high
tech. I. employees that in
Boston and in Silicon Valley but
because our economy is so
diversified it's not well
recognize.
And if you look at the chart on
the left you can see there's a
big purple.
Spot at about one o'clock which
talks about de jobs associated
with aerospace products. There's
another group down at about five
o'clock witches are indeed and a
lot of these jobs are closely
tied to the presentations that
we heard earlier.
The top three school Cannella
they produce the highest number
of engineering graduate student
of any region in the country.
And so I'll really is center of
engineering talent that
primarily serves the aerospace
industry so a couple more
statistics is that outweigh
ranks fifth globally in
attracting venture capital for
start ups. We've been rated one
of the top three startup
ecosystem in the world number
one is Silicon Valley and number
two tends to isolate between
Arabs are oscillate. Between New
York which is known as silicon
alley and Tel Aviv which is
known as silicon oasis.
Silicon wadi they like to call
it.
We have a high density of our
partners.
Andy entrepreneurs are really
important part of our ecosystem
because they venture the younger
entrepreneurs and really help
connect them to sources of
capital and also to be sort is
it a large organization.
So although some of the links to
U. S. C. Richard B..
We have many of you may know we
have a couple of very
interesting facilities were
the information
science's institute which is
based in marina del Rey and I'll
talk more about that later but.
The domain name was created at
I. aside so every time you type
in dot gov you can thank us.
Google is in playa Vista now
very near the institute for
creative technologies which is a
partnership with the U. S. army.
And that facility has brought
the army research lab created a
spin installation there which is
co located with ICT. So we share
Taplin didn't we share the
general fire with with players
Beth are on the fortune five
hundred. XScale and also with
that that federal research
facilities.
So the National Science patient
created a program called the
national innovation network and
it's implemented in a program
called the innovation or are I.
core. And it's actually C. O. R.
P. gas
it is modeled on the Peace Corps
which send Americans into other
parts of the world I. core bride
entrepreneurs back into
universities. There are eight
centers around the country we
are the happy light bulb over
the ages.
The blue is use D. L. baby
oranges scouts stack the
cardinal red is U. S. C. we are
the only one in the center
focused on the aerospace
industry we have done that from
inception.
Our original collaboration was
formed in twenty fourteen. And
then we expanded to some of our
additional friends in southern
California and in schools it
didn't know they were in
southern California.
Like a test you and you and Reno.
The university of Washington
so we southern California's
really a state of mind
we like.
Sorry university partners
but we're very excited about
this blabber action which
continues to grow up and support
the nationals.
Up we see ourselves as having
four principal functions we
teach think launch and link.
We teach all levels from high
school all the way up to faculty
how to think about invention
with impact and how to bring
technologies into the
marketplace I have.
Greater opportunities we think
we do practitioner focused
research and systems engineering
and technology portfolio
management.
Launch is everything that we do
to help bring capital to
companies and also to help our
industrial partners with their
internal venture so we've worked
closely with. Northrup Grummond
with Raytheon vision systems
were looking at partnerships
with a number of other companies
as well. And then link is
everything that we do took both
in terms of our collaboration
institutional linkages as well
as helping provide mentor to our
teams.
So some of our numbers we have
gained three hundred university
teams across the country. Would
actually trained in other
countries as well we've had
partnerships through the
National Academy of engineering
to support innovation with the
Chinese and royal academies as
well.
We are sorry we have to regional
focus areas one is aerospace and
the other one is healthcare
systems and services. Other
nodes again have the health care
focus but we are the only one
with a specific interest in
aerospace.
We have raised our teams from
our three partner universities
have raised north of seventy
million dollars in start up
funding over the last three
years.
We probably put about a hundred
mentors on our teams annually.
And that's a critical part of
our process we don't see any way
to grow teams without growing
that talent base.
We have a separate initiative
which has the acronym of
palisades because I spent many
years at J. P. also everything I
do has an acronym.
My colleagues are afraid to play
Scrabble with me.
So promote xcelerated launch
innovation in the security
aerospace and defense sectors
this is everything that we do to
bring.
That is what I will say this one
took me a while a.
We tried to help encourage the
students who are interested in
aerospace innovation
specifically. As well as working
closely with our partners.
A power play by the way is a
defensive fence so that is one
reason we picked that name.
And my husband couldn't believe
it either so far nobody National
Science Foundation our core
program will partner with an
accent APR. The airforce
research laboratory we do
training the Air Force Andy five
if you're not familiar with that
is an organization out of the
department of defense which is
focused specifically. Often
linking new innovations into D.
O. D. and bring them to the
extension of the opposition
organizations. At that much of
this is based at our facility at
the automation sciences
institute in the marina.
And so we got a small incubator
there where we support the
silicon beat community and it
serves as our quarters.
I do provide industry support
and training as well.
So this is Dodd these are some
of the teams that we have helped
for M. that have raised roughly
fifty million dollars. What's
interesting is that many of
these organizations came out of
universities are came out at the
university where. The initial
fun we had I'm from the funding
agency is like DARPA.
And directly from DOD and many
other people had gone and worked
in the large companies before
going in starting on the ground
and so what we see also it's.
As put a bit of a sloshing of
knowledge between the large
companies and then they step
away and create new companies
that can help support. The
industry at large.
So we are very proud of our
relationships with the with
local industry. And helping them
get stuck with new projects so I
packed impact is really based on
the observations around start
ups and intellectual property
and how they drive growth and
value.
We. Are excited about the
regional collaboration and at.
People do joke about whether our
region is actually the western
United States we certainly hope
so but we're. Very firmly rooted
in LA. And that our focal point
of the aerospace industry has
been an exciting place from
which we can grow.
So thank you for the opportunity.
Really great thank you.
My good information and you.
Scott you're gonna share the the
slides with the.
I don't mean that had already
has okay fantastic good that's
great. Well thank you so let's
don't you join and the panel
here and and then that will next
hear from doctor Lynch.
Who is from UCLA?
Well is intimidating to get up
after a presentation like that.
I like I as many others here
have deep roots in the aerospace
industry.
My father worked on something
all the hemispherical resonator
gyro that ran the Cassini
mission and is now in the
Smithsonian institute. My
brother's.
Pitched electrical engineering
HR all working in the aerospace
industry.
My father in law was in the
first squadron the land jets on
aircraft carriers and briefly
flew with the blue angels so.
Lot aerospace thought file
usually don't sure that but
since people are sharing
background sure yeah.
Is that what is might use causes
much baka here this is the.
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Is that airspace family.
Forward button nothing happens
let's try different.
There you go.
.
So what brings stone of the
department level and share with
you as chair of macaque
mechanical aerospace engineering.
Some of the issues involved in
building this pipeline in the
importance of building the
pipeline there are many things
that we do extremely well but
we're not satisfying the demand
that I really want to focus on
that a bit.
Little bit of background of
history of mechanical and
aerospace engineering at UCLA I
want to give you a few
statistics that I think of her
importance to the issues that
were being addressed earlier
about.
Developing this pipeline and
how many. Individuals are needed
and the type of talent needed.
We do a lot of work on our beach
job all the way down to the high
school level three Hannity
college. And we do a lot of
federally funded research.
.
We of course are. M. by local
standards and old school but but
you know naturally or in a
national to relatively new
school on the other.
Actress in the nineteen eighties
all the way up to we just
attention during six brand new
bill that dutiful ability is up.
Interscience has moved in were
expanding the number of students
taking. In develop assault tell.
Of.
Engineering wide.
Give you an idea of site snot
roughly eight hundred Schmidt
and I I think the thing that I
want to focus on here is.
The lower right side.
This was. Admission is free
for term twenty seventeen.
We have aha better than thirteen
in foul burned freshman
publications
for six. Thousand positions.
So he about the numbers there is
the over all. Traps income do
you feel pay.
All of the under thirteen
thousand.
Twenty seven thousand deployed
to engineering that is not
including math physics.
.
M. us Beall the sciences.
Though the stem application.
Actually air the that.
Engineering what had eight
hundred position.
.
If we look at the lower left.
Our me Ben unwanted GPA and the
entire Claus was four point.
I over median come fantasy
peacekeeper was fourteen eighty.
I and the media done now is tea
was thirty four.
There is no way pay I would get
into the school.
Are that problem that's an issue.
Weren't out accepting highly
telling students.
Situation is similar at vying
Sandiego Berkeley and to a
extent replied.
Our public education system for.
Engineering work we just don't
have the capacity we need.
We're fortunate to have cal
state observe with engineering
programs
less Richard orient bid.
I don't have specifics on how
many of these twenty seven
thousand do go on get positions
and others balls.
But we need be doing a lot more
in the sista stone.
I.
Here it is in graphical form
over the years you can see.
Of course.
You're you know I got us our
question of the way in and I do
not have those numbers.
Ten do you recall of all.
I I. in no in the applicant pool
I I don't know I think it's on
the order. Of the eight hundred
admitted.
Of.
I can get that information is
León sorry I don't have the
numbers. Help.
So hearing graphical form.
This is just.
The number of applied for its
number admitted.
And you can see what's happened
over the years and where we are
now we're doing a phenomenal job
with reaching out to the high
schools with getting students
into stem education.
The interest in stem education
on with programs like first
robotics is driving it way up.
Were not increasing the
capacity.
The bachelors level in the way
we need to be increasing the
capacity.
We give grease multiple areas
there's of bachelors the
canticle about Sarah they
pastors cantor mass euros days.
And then adopt purple Sufi
degree.
.
One hundred be undergrads and
rolled in twenty sixteen
graduate three hundred twenty
nine.
We haven't online programs that
currently house out for her
students Senate it's a master's
degree.
Predominantly the students in
that program come from the
aerospace industry through
tuition reimbursement programs.
We currently have four hundred
their end of the four hundred
almost a hundred twenty or
mechanical and aerospace
students.
That.
So.
Degrees awarded you see we're
not huge.
Were you know how curso
bachelors degrees seventy
master's degrees twenty three
PhD is. An aerospace.
The numbers are even smaller
thirty four arrow.
Twelve masters and narrow and
six who really did PhD studies
focus specifically on arrow.
This this is a bill we do a lot
but.
Hands on projects were students
of the mini bar the rockets
unassailable that what about a
D.. Build fly.
Students are building saying I'm
screwed pan going out in racing.
There is a team person up a
tissue in the being funded by a
private donor.
Dave Bernhardt U. S. C. is one
of the teams I use delays Ted
Diego cal state Long Beach.
Competing to.
Design build and launch liquid
fueled rockets to forty five
thousand feet they have built
launch facility is up in the
Mojave Desert out near Edwards
airforce base.
Ought to give you an idea of the
impact of these programs with
about eighty freshman coming in
and.
In aerospace including transfer
students.
In this club freshman I had
three hundred students show up
I'd it baffled me they're not
engineering students all and I.
Got into the details here. I
have students interested in
technology coming from theater
film and television coming from.
Writing programs they want to
come in and get involved in the
technology learn about it get
some of his hands on experience.
And then there are the core
engineering students the
chemistry students looking at
the fuels and propulsion.
These kinds of activities are
extraordinarily important to
motivating the young people as
they come in.
And I have to say there is a
team Ripley heavily.
Support advice is sex and
borrows aeronautical museum in
cotton that is running a high
school team competing with the
college teams. And quite frankly
I hope they win the competition
if we don't a.
Those kids are phenomenal and
we're starting to work on the
pipeline through the community
colleges to get them you see.
New facilities we our expanding
we are building a ten thousand
square foot hands on maker space
which we've been lacking at UCLA.
Just opened up her new liquid
fueled rocket three laboratory
just opened up a new
manufacturing center just opened
up engineering six new buildings.
We are adding fifty occult it
we're going to take about a
thousand more students it
doesn't even put a dent in the
problem.
.
So but I did mention the
outreach are in the me step by
this because he of the spy.
Give me an idea of what we do
and research of my department
does about twenty seven and a
half million dollars a year in
research.
Some of it state funded a lot
of that through the California
energy commission.
Federal funding about fifteen
million internal universe the
funding that largely comes from
overhead coming back from
federal funded research. And
direct industry funding we do
work closely with Boeing
Lockheed Raytheon.
Many others.
So a lot does come in with
industry and that many of our
students go to work in the same
industries.
Are.
Some of the things we do anybody
here is welcomed by and see the
we bill Newman up robots.
We do nanotechnology where
we're doing surgery on singles
tells.
We'd design three do three D.
detected materials. Blank skills
fun in some cases so small you
can't see the structure.
We do inner politically ation
systems this is navigation on
ship to thing the.
Gyros in your alpha up to the
quality that they can be used to
aircraft Rupert drought.
.
And word need to go open where
does this player.
We need to accept Benjamin in
the is the system up twenty four
percent of our applicants. Are
of. No one in nearing and less
than one percent can get.
Up to twenty seven thousand
engineering applicants were
accepting less three percent.
We've got the talent in the
pipeline that is fully prepared
for the higher education.
I don't have the net posted you
whether they're getting by going
to other schools but I can tell
you when the UC side. We have a
bottle neck the saw is slowing
things down so without a close
and thank you for your time and
attention.
Thank you thank you very one
minute.
Alright let's hear from doctor
Fisher
.
Great.
Well thank you very much senator
Allen senator Wilk.
I have been a Californian and.
Angelino for eight.
Months.
Welcome.
And.
I moved here from Indiana I was
a professor at Purdue for a long
time fifteen years bookmakers
ointment boiler up mia.
And.
I can tell you that. There were
two big draws for mean moving
here one.
Number one was the air space
industry.
I. R. was already working with a
bunch of companies that were
sponsoring my research at Purdue
and I was flying out here all
the time. And.
I figured well it's a lot
easier than the second thing is
the fact that UCLA's it's a
state treasure it's a national
treasure. It is an amazing an
amazing place.
And.
A minor factor you might know
they're they're getting a foot
of snow right now in. Indiana.
It's not such a big deal the
weather here is a little bit
better.
.
On the personal side so I'm.
Also doing my part I think my
son is about to accept an offer
at Northrop and he'll move from
Purdue to.
To come out here out west
hopefully next week or so noted
that these moving but accepting
the offer he's
is.
Playing hard to get I think.
.
But in any case.
It's and.
Jori to move out here.
Minutes certainly is a
privilege to talk to you today
now Chris gave you all the
statistics so I just think.
I'm gonna stand up and tell you
stories.
And there's some really good
ones.
So why are they called the
Boilermakers.
It's a pejorative term.
That it was coined by a.
Regional newspaper in the
eighteen hundreds.
Do you so so this is one of
those things where three repeats
itself Purdue.
And rolled.
Boy look. People in a boiler
making factory for their
football team.
And they became a dominant
football powerhouse in the late
eighteen hundreds and so it was
a. It was a.
Criticism of them I think they
they signed up for like a one
credit class and so these
Boilermakers.
But it's it's become more of a
term of endearment them.
.
I guess if you about.
Aerospace education in
particular where it's going.
That's some of what we're doing.
.
Some drivers here space so
liberal partnerships for
asus actually.
Are opening up about you know
not just technology branches but
also sort of creative branches.
You know people can imagine
themselves doing more with space.
The but a few years ago because
of opening activity other does
be Nast.
Met Beyonce the close partner.
Heist aeronautics of what will.
By that pain relief fat plane
mostly.
Hyper sonics.
These issues that you hear about
Beth because mission.
The maker movement is big and
you know I all universities in
the actually.
UCLA are. The really investing
heavily in that.
We need a versatile curriculum
a pick that up on later.
And we also need to do more
life learning.
Continue education and also with
government in this university
part tips I think that's.
Ted really building on this.
So are aerospace correct and
their ears my flowchart
predating.
That's Ted.
The met dear is that
we are real.
Your pan
really*.
If RL.
I mean the folks at Edwards and.
Research activities that you
bill a.
And in fact Dodd.
I imagine I think that doctor
care goes in.
Bubbly here talk.
Except she's in Washington DC
because yes based does are.
Announced then inducted to the
panel admit generic.
So she has a good reason for not
here.
.
But this is an example where
there person exchange it's not
busy all the time think we did
work on getting that bad.
Relationship between you person
it is and in this case
government lab.
Each year.
Did it at Hooper loan to write
Patton airforce base to your the
program because IPA.
It's that certain agents person
act.
Federal that but we need to be
able to do that.
Make it more seamless of for
this kind of translation.
The bells stopped.
Particular.
Another senator.
Headed by.
Colleague professor a carbon
with some materials I think the
big punch line here is.
Beall instead of having
electrons León from mission.
He's working on ways of making
Agneta or magnetic spin.
Gary information think that's
one of the big things and
there's a lot of.
Really fascinating work that
needs doing that you tional
outreach.
He has major encrypts Profeta
Lynch is also part of this as a
manager.
Element.
Graham that we.
This is what
so we.
Five industrial partners that.
Contribute under that person
dollars a year.
Into this research center and
then the responses sort of
coordinated to help on a project
basis there are five
universities. Associate it with
used by is there's not.
Is really the lead I still
wrecked this
thing that will allow you to
focus by.
Education part of this.
Sure.
Very.
We've been up
and hopefully stay. In the
industry.
So here's a closing thought.
.
It's a little bit of an outright
what does it say. It said it
takes too darn long to design
and and build a field the ball
airplane. At least DOD.
Alright the F. thirty five
that's at the top right.
Twenty five years nearly.
To go from the start to actual
fielding.
Unfair that to the F. sixteen
which was about six years
even commercial aircraft of
others board slope here that's
that's.
I personally.
Good morning. Thank you so much
for inviting us to be part of
this hearing.
I even he's been sharing stories
about their connections to the
South Bay into this.
Industry site I just wanted to
share a short one with with you
about my dad. My dad.
Was born here.
And it is handed Inglewood high
school and after serving in
World War two came back.
And enrolled at el Comino
culture.
In nineteen forty seven first
class he left before he
graduated because he got a job
offer from north American
aerospace so. He went to work
for north American and he was a
tool and die maker and in those
days you can have a really great
career in aerospace.
Without earning a college.
And he worked in aerospace is
tire career.
I he was involved in.
Data recorders for
space and.
Environments
according data.
And I think he had a very
rewarding career
starting in El Camino ongoing
and aerospace.
And I think that describes a lot
of people in South Bay. One of
the things that was mentioned.
Is the need to.
Hire people who are local
because they tend to stay local
and I think my dad's an example
of that. Because he stayed in
southern California and worked
spaces entire life.
So it's really exciting to be
part of this.
Hearing today I want to talk a
little bit about El Camino
college.
Of course our mission is to
serve the community and provide
access to higher education. And.
We have a very diverse student
body thirty two thousand
students at El Camino college.
And of course in the state of
California the communicative
serve two point one million
students so where large system.
What happens in our system
really does impact higher
education not only here in
California but also in the
nation twenty five? Percent of
all students in higher education.
I in the nation attended
California community college so
large system big impact.
Here in the South Bay across the
driving force in our local
economy is the aerospace
industry and uncommunicative
sandlot along a protective.
Partnerships and relationships
with aerospace companies here on
my colleague at David Gonzalez
is going to talk a little bit
about that I just want to say. A
few things about what we're
doing at all communicable age.
A.
We have. Access to facilities
that help training prepare
students not only for.
Transfer and which you transfer
a lot of students.
Particularly students that are
interested in science
engineering technology and math
but we also prepare students for
the workforce through our CTE
program.
I'm are transfer students up who
are interested in stem
participate in our stem mesa
program. We serve about seven
hundred students annually in our
stem center and one of the
recommendations I would suggest
is we consider expanding stem
centers across all of the
community colleges.
Some of our stems students have
participated summer research
projects at UCLA and we really
appreciate that. Opportunity for
them because it really does give
them a leg up. As he prepared to
transfer.
Up the majority of our transfer
students transfer to the
university of California system.
Followed by the California State
University system and then of
course private universities as
well.
A commuter college is proud that
we partner with local airspace
companies and for example.
We we were recently involved
with a project involving
Lawrence Livermore national
laboratory and it was funded by
the dude US department of energy.
It'd builds a bill for scale
project
for innovation in the energy
technology area. We also a
member of the clean energy smart
manufacturing innovation
institute. This is one of
fourteen funded by the federal
government our partners include
university of California
Berkeley. University California
Los Angeles university of
California Irvine and cal state
Northridge and what we're doing
with that is working on
curriculum that can be infused
into engineering programs.
Across the state in the area of
smart manufacturing using data
to help refine and provide
information to decision makers
about the manufacturing process
in real time.
And it's a very exciting time
beyond aerospace in southern
California and in particular. In
the South Bay where a lot of
projects you want to share with
you and David I'd like to. Have
him detail that for you and then
we'll answer.
President Maloney thank you
senators Allen center Wilk for
this opportunity to talk to you
today I have scripted remarks
Albee reading from my script.
Soul try to stick to that so
pardon my reunify. If I don't
make good eye contact your. Best
president Maloney mention no
communal college serves a large
and diverse student population.
Over her many students for
transfer to four year schools.
In a number of those students
are the spare engineers that
we're discussing today at
today's hearing all speak more
in a moment about how we train
those engineers. But first I
wanted to start with an overview
of how el Caminos serves the
business community in the South
Bay.
In addition to the hundred forty
so
certificate and degree programs
have a document college.
We tripped up provide critically
important training and other
services to local area through a
community investment vision.
We offer programs to provide
services to small businesses
through our small business
development center. And provide
a access to college based
programs to or. A state funded
programs
a we offer employment training
panel finding that provides a us
the opportunity to provide on
site training to employers.
It that provides access to no
cost an on site training for
employers to improve the Ted
skill sets of the room existing
employees.
Last year alone aren't women
training panel program served
over fifty businesses and
trained over seventeen hundred.
Employees
of those fifty employers about
sixty percent were all space
companies
is through programs such as the
employment training panel that
we are able to effectively
outreach to the computing
community.
One of the greatest assets of a
communal college that we enjoys
are location at the hearts of
the California's aerospace
industry. Allowing us to
maintain vital relationships
with many other corporations in
the area.
Many of our former students are
not in successful careers as
engineers and technicians.
In the industry are continually
training new people to enter
into the industry.
Each of but year our
representatives from our
education programs meet with
industry to review our programs
to gain meaningful insights into
the new technologies that are
occurring and industry. And from
that we take that information
back to improve our programs
Andy determine what the next
investments in equipment and
technologies would be.
For example our partnership with
Northrop Robinette space park
includes are pre apprenticeship
program where students from
electronics program attend
classes on site at Roth Roman.
The course work includes a work
experience component where
students interact with and you
C. engineers and technicians and
the work site.
The question of provide students
with relevant hands on training.
In a along with academic support
as they earn credit towards a
degree or certificate.
Many of the students go want to
full time positions in North
agreement. M. were M. planning
to expand to include a machine
tool program. Inland talks with
other lspace companies to expand
the number employees players
that participate in the program.
In addition to relationships
with key players such as North
incremental communicable its has
established partnerships with
our fellow colleges in the area.
Allowing us to further expand
our reach and share best
practices.
They were California career
pathways trust project called
advanced manufacturing and
injuring technology with a lift
learning project also known as
M. tell.
Welcoming college was able to
expand our regional leadership
in advanced manufacturing
engineering technology
to other regions.
Our partners on the project
include Long Beach City College
Pasadena college.
Surrealist college and her
college as well as their high
school partners in their
respective districts.
Do this program we have enabled
integration of engineering
technology coursework at the
high school level through the
community colleges.
This includes transferrable
coursework do the four year
schools that provides a clear
pathway for students.
During a recent visit to one of
our high school partners
dementia.
We talk with high school
students in the engineering
pathway.
One of the high school students
how.
X. a shared with us how much she
enjoyed the program.
And she expressed her desire to
become a mechanical engineer.
As part of a course Richard
could create machine tool
programs and you C. NC machine
tools trickery her designs.
Thanks to partnerships.
With schools such as the man she
and other high schools in the
service area. Which include
California academy of math and
science Hawthorne high school
and toward high school.
L. community colleges able to
serve thousands of students dual
enrollment.
The courses take students to or
dual enrollment program and they
can also that also lead to
certificates and degrees.
And a sister students through
pathways on four year
universities.
Are. Mathematics engineering
science and cheaper program or
we call it mesa.
Through that program we provide
students majoring in math or
science.
So they can excel academically
and transfer successfully for
inner institutions.
Bill them the mesa programs has
achieved outstanding results
through rigorous academics.
A leadership preparation and
collaborative problem solving.
Last year loan a hundred and
twenty five mesa students from
El Camino college transfered to
a variety of California
universities. Including UC
Berkely UCLA USC Cal Poly Pomona
it use your fine.
Their major six the spanned a
number of disciplines including
mechanical and electrical
engineering.
A computer science physics
biochemistry and behavioral
neuroscience.
When they graduate the students
will be ready to join. The high
tech workforce.
To support expanded programs are
communal college receives
federal and state funding for
example Perkins finding supports
acquisition of equipment
instructor training. And other
support to help us ensure
programs are equipped with
latest technologies
we have utilized funnies to
automate our machine tool
romance were able to automate
standard acts.
Processes such as material
movement into our program where
students learn students learn to
program robots and process
interactions between the robots
and the machine tools.
As a member of the events
manufacture partnership for
southern California or M. socal
of communal college receives
federal funding to.
SS twenty six.
Aerospace companies impacted by
defense cuts.
Companies are assisted by
developing M. of medical plans
to increase sales by
diversifying into new markets.
M. soak health collaborates with
organizations of both public and
private distracting the region's
aerospace and defense
manufacturing economy.
Led by the price school at USC
center for economic development.
M. socal is the focus on the
southernmost ten counties in
California.
After the state of California
strong work force funding
support a number of programs
that lead to transfer or
employment.
Investments are being made in
our welding computer aided
design and drafting engineering
technology and computer hardware
and other programs.
The funding enables us to train
instructors acquire new
technology crate revised
curriculum enhance
infrastructure as needed to
support the new equipment.
With combined funny th botanical
education programs Alchemilla
colleges well positioned.
To ensure that we provide local
aerospace industry with highly
skilled people gonna show the
competitiveness of the players
in the region.
Everyday I see students of all
communicable is working hard as
a dream and as a dream back
about their futures and has a
child the pathway towards our
education and ultimately
employment.
In one electronics course
recently students working for
SpaceX
another spoke of working for
Honeywell aerospace. And another
one to work on the F. thirty
five line at night of Roman.
Of all those stern.
Those all of those two
story able to raise our really
do appreciate you bring all your
expertise.
And.
Well perfect presentations to
us.
I'm I I love it just. The some
things that were brought up and
I'd love to start if.
Doctor Lynch.
What what it it it just seemed
like such a glaring this such a
glaring?
Challenge at place at UCLA with
regards to engineering slots I
can only imagine.
A similar problem exists Roth
you C. system and you know. I
don't know what the story is a
US eva love to hear.
Similar okay so what is it so
okay we got enormous demand.
Presumably.
Folks are willing to pay.
No full tuition in if it out to
see to to go into these kinds of
programs what's. What's
preventing us from creating more
slots.
In these programs.
Well ed UCLA we have a challenge
of were almost filter out on the
footprint of the campus so
additional building were going
up there okay a couple places
that we could put new buildings.
We need the infrastructure to
help the classroom space were at
forty thousand students campus
wide.
And were you know required to
book classes starting at eight
AM running through six to eight
PM so that we have room to. Fit
all the students and.
So increasing engineering by
increasing overall enrollments
at UCLA is going to run this
indoor wall without.
In funding for additional
infrastructure.
And that holds things back to.
You know we are not at Georgia
tech where I came from which was
just a.
An entirely technology oriented
school we are.
Combined.
Enough medicine law liberal
arts social sciences.
And really expanding the
engineering would mean reducing
the size of other programs and
you can imagine that John is
overloading the that well
because of physical space
physical space yeah.
Then overall you see budgets.
You know to yeah we are
expanding the faculty from a
hundred and eighty nine we.
How of approved an additional
fifty per positioned so it's
gonna put us to about two
hundred forty?
That's got to enable us to
handle an additional.
About thousand students a year.
.
We need to do that expansion
which is. Gonna be completed in
about three more years. And look
at the next fifty and were
already running into
infrastructure constraints with
laboratory space for the
research labs are. Being a
research university you need.
On the order of.
Thousand to twelve hundred
square foot laboratory for
faculty members that are doing a
lab type research.
Smaller two to three hundred
square feet for computational
facilities but it really is
facilities and infrastructure
expansion to accommodate the
students.
Now are are there.
Could you know there's been so
much development on south campus.
Science side lots of beautiful
new buildings coming up. By I.
there.
Plans for a new building or
expansion of the building.
I mean you know I I just like I
can't blade to the idea that
that that.
Filling your needs on the
engineering side would
necessarily mean you have to cut
back.
Another programs.
And we know why can't you build
up I suppose just like a lot of
the folks are doing on campus we
just completed engineering six
where engineering borrowed a lot
of the money and has a mortgage
on that building that with three
turn on overhead.
The dean's office has to pay on
the order of four million
dollars a year of our budget for
the building space.
The Wayne buildings have been
funded the funding is shifted to.
A combination of find donors and
borrow money to build that we're
getting a lot less and even
going to zero state support for
new buildings.
We do have a large court of
sciences that a new building
could go there we've even talked
about.
You know following something
like they did with the live with
the pyramid and the building
going down.
.
So yes there are solutions that
they'll take.
You know hundred million
investment to accommodate an
additional fifty faculty which
is yet another one thousand
students and you saw with the.
.
Number of students that we had
met eight hundred a year so that
thousand is two fifty two
hundred fifty admitted a year
and it's a thousand in the four
year program.
It it takes the building note
some rather expensive
infrastructure to do it. And I'm
with you the idea that
engineering is going to go in
and say Hey where are more
important than some of these
other programs you need to
shrink we're taking our
buildings.
That just isn't going to happen
rank.
I know I guess. Let's talk about
ways we can help on the.
.
Partnerships are but I mean if
it's a matter of minutes could
León an industry need.
I if it's a matter of of
expanding.
Donor partnerships in and just.
Partnerships in general with the
private sector and and also in
in the and you have the federal
government stern.
We should be building on the
things M. there must be some.
Existing donor.
Partnerships that have been
successful on the build out so
far that we could expand upon or
try to scale.
The other there certainly are.
And I'm trying so.
Paint the picture of.
I can saw it what we needed UCLA
but I want to talk about the
bigger picture because.
You see from our numbers this
is beyond UCLA.
Riverside needs expansion and
you know buildings and
infrastructure Santa Barbara
needs to take more of the
engineers of San Diego and
Irvine need to take more of the
new C. wise yeah you see why now
of. Number said is relatively
new I don't have any data on you
know where they are in building
their engineering program but
that will grow and as adults
reputation the flood is coming
that way to. You do you think
this issue is getting sucked. In
a it Ted some serious attention
of the regents level though
office the president.
To try to come up with some
system wide solutions.
As a department chair I don't
know.
I can lead you straight to the
people that do know but I I I
play at a much lower level.
Current nonsense.
I nnova a getting all the.
Right now I have not interacted
at the president's level and.
I do have somebody here in the
room that does that Tom.
Where is try?
I can you answer that question
or help answer questions come up
to the Mike here if you want.
If you could introduce
yourselves well thank you for
being here yeah J..
Some exclusions excel Mike if
you don't mind yeah.
I gauges yourself and then I
have my name's Chacombe interior
Mike the UCLA state governor.
No.
So did did you have any kind of
thoughts about about the extent
to which.
This conversation about the
broader engineering needs of the
UC system are being discussed
and address that the C. O. P.
reject a level.
It is.
I think that one of the biggest
issues that.
The system has the UCLA has the
UCLA as president has said is
that capacity in terms of
enrollment like they're simply
no room for it to grow.
Are all the enrollment growth
if you C. has been focused right
now Merced.
And riverside.
And some of the other campuses
where there is a greater ability
for actual physical expansion.
Ben UCLA and Berkeley now use
them Berkeley.
You know there's the greatest
demand to go to those two
schools also used as a D.
etcetera but those schools which
are in urban areas have very
strong issues.
In terms of geographical
expansion.
That doubt Merced riverside are
are lot more able to like sort
of a comedy former students
but what's preventing pan
building out not.
.
I mean you know if the
engineering building.
Well so I mean any building if
you spill a is subject to
enormous difficulties I think
you might be familiar with all
the issues that we had but not
to be sent there. The building
of the Luskin.
Institute.
All the W. anything that goes
to any type of construction in
the Westwood area is subject to
enormous issues in terms of
permitting right.
Use menu the billowing hung
them you'll get on them all that
we have in Bates been with many
years of red tape and difficulty
how.
And you know it's like building
you have twenty five yeah well
yeah and also I mean you know.
For up you represent all our
neighbors yeah.
You know they are a loud.
And we opinionated group of
people I and they're either her
later Allen.
Yeah so I'm curious if it's you
know as well but yes I saw that.
That so you know for example for
the loss and I said there.
Which is very poor and frost
because we do see a conference
place for people to meet.
I mean that was the years I
mean that was over a decade of
just before anything actually to
happen in terms of a brick
actually got Leyva.
There's a red tape and so yeah
I mean I think that you know
building up vertically.
Is it would be you know it's
interesting and we've discussed
all those things but even like.
Building up a building down is
subject to enormously issues in
in the city water in West Los
angles where we are.
Yeah I mean I think that did ya
so you see as a as a entity I
mean Merced and riverside. Like
it's been a lot discussion about
expansion that Benny does they
are being expanded.
I know a lot that based on the
map to plan we should have many
more UC campuses.
He still on the population of
California and our ability to
like sort of make sure that. All
of the top ten percent of of of
conference you have a public you
is if you go to. But you know
those things have kind of right
behind me in terms of needs.
So then I just incumbent
bringing it back to because we
are in your district and UCLA.
Yes UCLA does need another.
Engineering building or two or
take the old bolter hall
building and replace it with.
A a larger building that goes up
further.
That would go a long way toward
enabling us to increase our
enrollments my personal view is
I think we could.
You know double or even triple
the current enrollments with the
are growing in the right way.
Yeah we have a systemic problem
which is one.
.
Revenue to the state I mean
that ARC our tax
system is prone Ted ups and
downs so funny capacity is
always kind of scary. Then
number two.
Under constitute in the use D.
system is
not under the auspices of the
legislature so you might wanna
put money in their Bates that is
there any guarantee gonna go to
those type program so those.
Those are two hurdles that I C.
but certainly some you know a
worthy endeavor to. Try to
figure out yeah I think.
So the first response and time
on.
With these these two committees.
Yeah I saw you nodding doctor
pulse a thousand though there's
it's a similar challenge in the
private. Institutions as well
could you speak to that sure so
I think one thing that's
important to realize about this
kind of education is that it is.
Strongly driven by hands on
experiences and therefore even
while education changes in other
ways and you can do online
education in certain topics. It
is. Impossible to teach someone
how to work in a laboratory if
here she isn't and allowed to
learn. And so we can't I. I.
What I have seen also some
arguments that will education is
changing so why are we
continuing to invest in brick
and mortar and in fact the
opposite is true it's even more
reason? To invest their into
supplement the kind of education
that you can do. With online are
auto didactic processes where
people if they can teach
themselves some marathon the
khanacademy but.
Can't you can't learn everything
about how to operate in a lab
this will make the
apprenticeship prop program so
important to.
So.
You know as education changes
this kind of education will not
change right.
Yeah it's easy I we you were you
were there for a bit to senator.
We we spent much the afternoon
yesterday hearing the governor's
proposal. For naught but an
online C. white college.
A treaty college.
And then there's an interesting
under oath extent to which you
referred to propose a want to
comment on it but. We're trying
to figure out what we think
about it.
Is fleshed out.
Well cotton.
So what what I turned to the
doctor Melodi I love to hear
your thoughts on the college and
how it might be related. To stem
careers.
At and I also love to just hear
from you and.
Doctor Gonzalez about.
I about your experiences with
your with interest from our
applicant portal.
For engineering careers the.
The extent to which you're able
to accommodate them and then get
them transferred to are
wonderful four year institutions.
In the challenges the
opportunities what's standing in
the way the road blocks after.
So.
I'll start with the but that
question.
And I think gotta.
From from my perspective that
there is a pipeline issue it's
not a add an issue. Of interest.
Or demand a it's a it's a
pipeline issue in terms of the
final to get though students
through and back out industry.
So we have a lot of street
because it was just describe
exactly transfer the transfer
issue.
I'm we're in high schools all
over the south page and
practically the way programs
there's
tremendous interest in.
Stem fields in engineering in
particular. I. every year. El
Camino college hosts the on
Asuka space science day event.
Listen Onitsuka was C. astronaut
that was on the challenger space
shuttle. And his family
establish a foundation and every
year we have about eight hundred
to a thousand.
A
grades five through twelve
students on our campus per day
in which they hear from my
astronaut and then going to
science experiments with our
faculty.
It's six it's an exciting Janet
really sparks interest in pop
kind of furthers the interest in
science and space.
So those students wind up
enrolling at many universities
across southern California
occluding el Comino. And it'll
Camino those students are very
interesting transferring but
there pipeline is is is
constrained in order to transfer
their ask you spot waiting for
them. An open spot every Versata
California California State
University.
School and and it's difficult
because it's as has been pointed
out this morning no there's not
that many students that are
accepted into those schools and
there's a huge demand so the
pipeline issue isn't one. That
is lacking from interest from
students it's really the
capacity for us to serve the
students collectively.
And that's a concern.
At at queens college also has a
dual role because we also
prepare students for the
workforce those not interesting
transfer right away. And we work
with a lot of the aerospace
companies to provide students
with CTE programs other types up.
Type training that they get into
the workforce.
And I think you know that is a
big demand to that we face.
Fortunately the state of
California two thousand sixteen.
Included two hundred million
dollars in the strong workforce
funding so that we can expand
our CD programs and do more of
that. And I see the same kind of
investment needing to be made in
stem fields because I think stem
fields are costly it takes
laboratories it takes brick and
mortar. To prove it provide that
kind of educational expenses to
students. And I I think that
we're hearing that there is a
demand and I need an interest.
And our employers in the area
will not be able to flourish in
the regional economy will suffer
if we're not providing that
pipeline of job ready.
Trained four year degree
students and CT east.
Well okay only what I guess
what's what with his.
And that's M. respect some of
this is this is something we can
actually get our heads around
and spend time talking to some
of the public higher ed leaders
about.
And so I'm I'm optimistic in
that respect what would doctor
Bates what.
What's stopping you S. C. from.
Me a a you yo is least similar
kind physical constraints.
We also certainly limited by our
location and you can see we're
not surrounded by lots of.
Empty fields.
.
I came from the university of
Maryland as an undergraduate
which is a little different that
night. So. Were capacity
constrained in the same ways
were also looking at the
buildings that we can.
Reinvent and re purpose
it's.
Extremely expensive to repurpose
existing work existing
infrastructure and so you know
obviously our funding situation
is a little different than the
UC system right.
Certainly not better just
different read different well I
mean I'm so impressed with your
presentation and the
extraordinary range of partners
that you pull together.
I public and private sector
needs at have you seen.
And I I guess I ask you this but
if anyone asked the panel has
any thoughts on this I'd love to
hear thoughts but.
Have you seen any examples M.
anywhere in the nation. Where?
They have created well financed.
Public private partnerships
either through federal grants
private in. Industry dollars
saturated to to to really expand
the engineering pipeline
opportunities that.
Institutional highlighting
is there is a good example out
there that we can learn from an
ABC.
Look into some sort of public
private.
Finding partnership.
So certainly I think the federal
government and I'm sure all my
colleagues Connecticut arms
the federal sources are asking
the same kinds of questions and
so the way they phrase it is in
the word sustainability. What is
your plan for continuing any
activity afterwards but
certainly it is rare that those
sources of funding will pay for
the development of physical
infrastructure other than
specific laboratory?
Equipment I mean what we're
talking about is really on such
a large scale that none of these
individual programs.
Serves as the as the nexus for
for one of no.
Partnerships with can penthouse
Miltie you know retirement
airspace.
The higher revenue then
agriculture and Tim combined.
Right
I enormous infrastructural need
for the industry.
I pan jobs money in the in the
lots of money.
.
You guys saying Hey you know we
could do this because half to
get the resources to deal expand.
I'm.
But I I think that the pipeline
issue is Monning is not.
Just building buildings although
that's part of it. Right part of
what we heard about earlier was
the need for clear of all
personnel and at the most
advanced levels for advanced
degrees that's a different
problem. Because the majority of.
Advanced students in science and
education fields are not
American citizens.
And so when you talk about
filling the pipeline of clear
bill personnel.
At the PhD level that's a
different question than the
incoming bachelor's degree
candidates yeah just pick up on
that I think one thing that
could be overlooked if
conversation so far is that. The
undergraduate programs require
this brick and mortar investment
and expansion but the graduate
programs you can turn a mop and
grow them today. And in many
ways they're more valuable.
The US question about
successful pop public private
partnerships.
In this there out I'll use my
own example that because I know
it the best. We have five
companies that paid a hundred
thousand a year Raytheon is
about to join.
That that'll be the sixth.
And and we have co funding from
Wright Patterson Air Force base
so that's a way that we did it
at the federal level. And that's
the kind of thing it's basically
one for one matching if you want
to look at needs in the cleared
space for advanced is degrees
which is a crucial problem. But
you know a fellowship program
that could be co funded by.
The state and industry I think
that you'd find industry signing
up in a second for nothing like
that.
And ed but targeted toward
toward the aerospace industry D.
of these are. Really I think
very obvious things to do
because our lab space we can put
more and more grad students into
the labs.
And they don't take dorm space
they don't live in the dorms
right it's that's an easy way to
grow and. To add to that there's
a new National Science
Foundation fellowship pro
specifically to train graduate
students in industry which is
something that has not been done
historic moment there is a new
internship program. So that we
can take grad students.
Show them how industrial
research is done and then.
Create a meaningful career paths
that way outside of academia.
I think I will ahead to the
discussion at the graduate level
because when you talk about time
cleared students.
We have a particular barrier in
the UC system that even the cal
state system doesn't have and
that we're not allowed to bring
in I. Turner restricted work.
No at Georgia technically
wasn't penance for.
That this is like the lowest
level of security clearance
needed but there's some work in
there that requires some kind of
clearance and the philosophy of
the university of California is
that. All research should be
open to all students the matter
country of origin or where
they're from.
At Georgia tech we were able to
handle the security clearances
and to sort of separate
laboratories that only US
citizens would go and.
USC has facilities in marina
del Rey that they work on
satellite systems with Boeing.
UCLA gets locked out of a lot
of this.
We formed what we call the ita
the institute for technology
advancement that was an off
campus facility. We had many
millions of dollars in funding
from a donor to get this up and
running to have a facility where
we could do I. tar work and.
That is a direct pipeline for
people we're going into the
aerospace industry it didn't get
its final approval from the
office of the president so it
floundered.
Tim doctor Fisher is actively
involved and I knew re opened
out and find a way that. In a
local offsite facility.
Weekend partner more with the
aerospace industry with the U.
S. citizen graduate students who
will be involved at work that's
leading toward Clarence required.
Loved it talk to us about that
and do some more appellee and we
have to talk Jeff.
Newman talk if it but published
probably should have what one
thinks I'm working on with you
C. lay and the prime ineffectual
yours and the Air Force. Is to
create at California institute.
Of airspace up in the end of
the alley partnering with you C.
Leyva airforce try manufacturers
to do.
.
You know graduate research in
postdoc work there.
Abby because all that all that
you know lever leverage on
assets out there so be initially
house down about a college
Senate.
Myself and and yeah so Moorlach
D. had a bill to call on that
and then. Got a budget requests
to do the initial seed funding
because that primes wanna make
sure that the state is committed.
To doing the program before that
that before they invest but it's
it's talking about is this very
model okay. Great if I could add
just one thing with regard to.
That that the advanced degrees.
Or one of the thoughts that I
have is for small. With the
aerospace industry and the focus
on retaining employees here in
southern California most most
communicative students are
attending a local community
college their local. And they
aren't interested in moving far
away.
So that transfer student might
be an excellent
candidate for. Meeting that need
of local people who want to stay
local but the other thing I talk
to families about when their
time considering. On their
child's education and where they
should go to school is.
One of the things I tell them
that is if the student
has aspirations of an advanced
degree than say the first year
to of tuition Goethe
communicable Jim use that
funding for their dance degree.
And they'll stay local so I
think that's a transfer student
is actually a diamond in a raft
in terms of.
Some of the attributes they
bring to the table for workforce.
And I'm we we support.
I wanted to mention also.
Order to mention to keep in mind
that at the key to your a level
the third which we still need to.
To have some focus on the
development of technicians that
support the engineers. Engineers
are went up with a new designs
in new technologies.
We're going to need people to
build those.
So other programs such as
apprenticeships and the other
certificate programs.
I think support also for focus
on those two sure that we're
serving up population I mean
those people are here. They're
probably going to stay here.
Once they get experiences in
the workplace such as the
internship program that we have
in North Roman. I'm bill tend to
thrive and stay in that sector
for a long time of their career
so keep that in mind.
Okay.
Okay alright well I think that
gives a lot to think about where.
I am and I I think we're gonna
be individually following up
with each of you on the various
topics so. I really do
appreciate that robust
discussion and you bring all
these issues to our attention.
And then yep yep yes of course
doctor. I I'm not going to miss
this I'm just gonna put the
offer on the table.
USC has one of the oldest
online learning programs in the
country.
On UCLA I was the founding
director of our master of
science in engineering online
programming was also involved in
distance learning we launch the
program George attack and.
Multi campus program
so.
.
You've got people that you can
follow up here with if you want
to talk about the.
.
You know all online community
college that we have a lot of
experience yeah yeah.
Yeah so where were you given us
about give enough about about it
is for us the way I I can tell
you.
My experience with the graduate
programs is the students are
highly highly motivated and
that's a really important aspect
of it.
And they do as well as our
campus students there and very
odd similar or the same courses.
It works very well for the what
I call skills based courses
where you're gonna learn
mathematics you're going to
apply the mathematics you're
going to in some cases León
systems engineering or
engineering management.
When you go to the undergraduate
level when I was working back.
Back and forth between Atlanta
and Savannah Georgia as we're
establishing a new engineering
program with a satellite campus.
The students at the satellite
location without a professor in
the room would do everything
they could not to be on camera
it always look like you had an
empty classroom I know there was
this camera shyness.
And.
It it was not as effective at.
Internet kind of politics and
Tom Berryhill no no I just done
that but the other thing that we
find with the.
Distance learning. It takes as
much or more faculty resources.
To have the contact with the
students and support their
learning as it does on Capitol
I've got a professor in the
teaching assistant for each
thirty students.
And we do a lot of online then
email one.
It's it's not a quick.
You know we can throw a
thousand people in a move.
It it really is a different
mode of doing education and
you've got to put resources and.
Toni I. Strongly agree with that
and that the issue is the issue
of how to orchestrate an online
courses Israeli nontrivial isn't
thing cornice courses a taught
asynchronously all of those
issues.
Don't really make it even that
much
cheaper to deliver then as
standard. Course when you're in
the classroom together message
view it's just different.
And I think the other component
as you start to segment the
workforce needs is is that there
is one set of needs around
airspace and mechanical
engineering which are very ably
represented here at this table.
Up there's another set of needs
around all of the digital
technology so when you talk
about cyber security at Sarah.
And that they just have
different educational issues
in terms of resource needs and
how to manage those classes at
cetera so it's not going to be
one size fits all.
Just want to add about that
since you asked about the online
college there's a lot of
unknowns. And this is moving
very quickly.
And anthem from my perspective
it hasn't been well thought out
in terms of governance course
content delivery system
accreditation the list goes on
and on. But I think bottom line
is the distance education unless
it's done very toppling
intentionally.
You're not gonna see the same
outcomes for students that you
might see in a regular
traditional class.
And it takes a different kind of
student to be successful in an
online of course like that you
have to be very disciplined.
So I think there's a lot of
questions yet to answer about
that yet.
Yep okay left that's it
discussion pre continued I. D.
persimmons insights as well.
Thank you thank you the panel
really do appreciate where
they'll be in touch.
Alright last panel.
partners.
.
Will be hearing from doctor
Dennis remind his assistant vice
chancellor for research at the
California State University
system I see some.
See if you representatives here
and we're also going to be
hearing from our host.
Steven turned into science and
talk about some distinguished
indicated Joel.
Alright.
Are.
I still hear from you I. doctor
remind verse.
Morning everyone of.
It's on.
I begin as others did of with a
brick background.
My name is Ganesh Rahman and
the system lets chancellor for
research at the California State
University.
My training is in mechanical
and aerospace engineering high
begin make career at NASA Glenn
where I work for fourteen years.
I've also worked in many M.
space contractors and have a ten
year working relationship of
with Boeing in Saint Louis the
old McDonald Douglas.
And going in Seattle.
I'd then served as a college
professor for seventeen years at
Illinois attack in Chicago.
In two thousand sixteen I took
over as the head of research for
the twenty three campus
California State University.
And M. this world with my
background I have a unique
perspective a but of both you
and industry needs M. academia's
methods.
And possible ways to bridge of
the preparation.
A little bit about.
Engineering most of you know.
Engineering is one of the
disciplines where you can find
lucrative employment on
completion of a four year degree.
And unite cut say that about all
other disciplines.
And also let's note that the
aerospace industry doesn't just
hire aerospace engineers
yeah hi higher all types of
engineers.
Of folks in computer science
other sciences and psychology
for human factors.
Of the California State
University has an incredibly
diverse and large student
population.
And is often cited as an engine
of upward social mobility.
Sandeep to anyone off our twenty
three campuses are designated
has Hispanic serving
institutions.
And what one third of our
students are first in their
families to attend college.
And our Hispanic students tend
to come from the lower
socioeconomic rung society and
by the time they graduate and
replace them it moved down
towards the top.
Socioeconomic ranks.
So we've had we have four
hundred and eighty thousand
students in our system.
And forty six thousand of those
students are enrolled in
engineering programs.
And some other date of
interests is.
One the California State
University M. rules one and
fifteen engineering students in
the United States.
Point seven percent of all
engineering students enrolled in
the United States sort of the
California State University.
We also enrolled one in seven
Hispanic American engineering
student.
So which means fourteen percent
of all Hispanic. American
engineering students enrolled in
engineering go to the caliph
state university.
So off our forty six thousand
students twenty five percent of
the engineering students are his
pelvis panic origin twenty
percent of women.
Steam percent Asian.
Also this forty six thousand
students really represents that
thirty two percent growth within
five years in the California
State University system.
While our two engineering
focused pop Politecnica
adversities Cal Poly San Luis
Obispo and capably Pomona.
Are often mentioned in this
regard.
This yes you offers sixteen.
Engineering undergraduate
programs overall and sixteen of
our campuses off pretty swine
engineering degree.
We also have four thousand nine
hundred nineteen graduate
students
in the California State
University system an engineering.
And our campuses help connect
our students with industry for
valuable internships.
I love to give you some
examples of innovation and
partnerships
the California state
universities involved in.
V. have of.
Distinctive undergraduate
education undergraduate research
program.
So are externally funded
research projects output fuller
was about five hundred seventy
nine million these are funds
that are could be bring from
outside through high quality
proposals.
This allows us to engage
undergraduate students.
So in other words the
undergraduate research
experience use is used to engage
students are. To ignite passion
and also the discovery process
is used as a perseverance
teacher so when Ben stood C.
faculty failing at research
projects multiple times before
this succeed that's the
perseverance to show.
So students work at on hands on
practical projects vehicle so.
Focused on exposing students to
innovative projects that of
societal impact and address the
problems of California.
I'll provide you with some
concrete examples
since two thousand six
California State University
Fullerton has operated a program
called engineering innovation.
A college level summer program
for motivated high school
students.
With an aptitude for math and
science and an interest and or
curiosity about engineering.
Another partnership example is a
joint venture between Cathleen
instead University Long Beach
and the Boeing company.
A new research center at CSU
Long Beach known as Boeing
mechanical systems research
center. Is working on advancing
research in mechanical parts and
system design and testing for
various types of aircraft.
Through the center of students
and faculty are able to see
firsthand how. Bill world
projects can be conceived
developed executed validated
validated and deployed into
production lines.
A third example is a partnership
between Cal Poly San Luis Obispo
capably Pomona and not the
government corporation to
demonstrate unmanned aerial and
ground vehicles.
As part of this program students
conduct conducted flight
demonstrations on autonomous
flights and geolocation.
Another major innovation that
occurred in the California State
University is going mention of
the cube set standard.
Of this was done jointly at Cal
Poly San Luis Obispo and
Stanford University so you you
medical times that earlier
satellites we extremely large
the size of a school bus and
took several hundred million
dollars. To launch now to the
cube stats cube set standard of
students are able to design
build and launch satellites as
secondary payload for less than
fifty thousand dollars.
So those of you.
.
From aerospace engineering who
know what the aero engineers did
a capstone design course what
was Scott doesn't build and fly
and the aerial folks good design
build and fly small airplanes.
At this speed folks always
Hannah challenge because other
than rocket launches you where.
Short of options but not with
the cubes that they're able to
design build and fly the
satellites and obtain data from
them.
Recently a student team from
Cal Poly Pomona won first prize
at a NASA Glenn research center.
Design challenge the judges were
impressed by the innovative
design of a six passenger
electric aircraft developer Cal
Poly Pomona students.
And as was mentioned our
students furtively campuses
pramana San Luis Obispo on and
San Diego are also aiming to
launch a liquid fuel rocket to
forty five thousand feet.
In an attempt to win a hundred
thousand dollar prize and this
the team is also working to it's
being the first university in
space launching a liquid fuel
rocket that will surpass an
altitude of the defeat. Free
heaven thirty thousand feet or
sixty two miles.
Finally on the information
technology it is the C. S. U.
has partnered with industry
leaders such as Lockheed Martin
Cisco Systems and Hewlett
Packard.
Let me conclude by saying that
while these examples are
examples of our mission and
vision as the university is
important to know that.
Everything the California State
University does including are
directed research efforts.
Is laser focused on the values
of opportunity quality and
inclusivity.
Our educational partnerships and
practices no different and
through our continued work and
through are even stronger
partnerships me can continue to
encourage educate and propelled
more students.
To a successful future for.
California's aerospace industry
thank you.
Okay next were Abschied Wallace.
Good morning I'm aim Steve
Wallace on the principle de
Vinci sights high school which
is just one of the three.
High schools that are happening
right now on the phone the three
floors above you.
Were started about ten years
ago and.
.
I.
I know I've been invited to
speak on innovative partnerships
and models education but.
Listening I I wondered if I was
put last just to present the
case for optimism.
Ottoman.
There are hundreds of students
graduating in a few months how
who were born and raised here
who are eligible to work for
your company's. Core exactly the
students that you want. And some
of whom are are here with us
apart our youth government
program has been here learning
about what you're doing.
And these are awesome kids and
I would invite you before you go
to lunch.
You just go upstairs and check
out what's happening up there.
But it's not happening in a
vacuum it's not happening.
I'm just.
.
Just teachers all by themselves.
I taught.
Chemistry and physics and
biology for over ten years. And
never once spoke to university
professor.
You guys are hard to get to.
And there's so many things that
high school teachers are doing.
That that connection is really
difficult to make.
And as teachers are trying to
trying our best to prepare our
students for. The next segments
in the stern pipeline.
For most places all they've got
is their textbooks and their
standards are Andy and what we
remember from our own it G..
When we launched the school we
had the privilege of meeting
with faculty chairs at Cal Poly.
San Luis Obispo.
The first advice piece of advice
they gave us we sat how should
we designed I. school as they
said don't have textbooks.
You know by the time they're
printed their obsolete.
Let your teachers hire great
people and let them be
innovative and will work with
you.
.
Right now I literally you know.
Ten feet directly above you and
there's a three thousand foot
square foot engineering lab.
That was designed in
partnership with Northrop
Grumman and bowing out what
designed and funded thank you
bye Hannah partners.
North north or government going.
Where fourteen fifteen sixteen
seventeen year old students
are literally learning
engineering?
That happens in large part
because.
The folks list M. pipeline the
university professors.
The people that work in the in
the industry are willing to come
here.
And get to know our teachers and
help our teachers and getting
our students and help them.
We heard from our doctor bows
and doctor Lynch.
The
challenges in the university
level.
Of.
I just space it's professor's
time.
Faculty time and it's not like I
can I'm abroad myself but it's
not like I can go and knock on
the door of the alma mater.
And just ask professors to give
us a few hundred hours a year of
their time.
They they have funny on their to
do list I think and so one of
the innovative partnerships I
want to describe. I. is one
Hannah in which one of our
partners Martha Graham and has.
Funded a partnership between us
in Kalpi San Luis Obispo which
pays for professors time.
Come and and coach our teachers.
There there is no teaching
credential in engineering.
So far our engineering classes I
have to
find
group rates math and science
teachers and convert them.
I myself am not an engineering
major
so.
The best professional
development out there for
teachers
is university faculty.
Cal Poly San Luis Obispo it's
been phenomenal.
Their professors have come and
spend time observing our
teachers and giving them
feedback not only on. How
they're teaching but what
they're teaching some of the
content we thought we needed to
teach in the faculty come and
say? We don't even use that
anymore you should be doing this
instead. And that takes time for
them to spend the time in the
classroom.
And then the faculty
interactive directly with our
own students.
Helping them I'm not only with
the skills but also the
confidence that once they do get
into the university. That
they'll succeed because they've
there and know what they're
doing is preparing them while
and they have that confidence as
well as the content background.
.
Through this partnership our
faculties been able to Tom. I
really have a meaningful to a
exchange are with the faculty
Kapali San Luis Obispo. Isn't
just our stem teachers are.
We took a trip are entire staff
we took down the complex and
Luis Obispo.
Many of whom described as the
best professional development
they've ever had.
Our English teachers about
their English faculty chair who
talked about the importance of
teaching students
technical writing.
So we get lots of students who
are good at writing narrative
writing and now on to write
novels but if they wanna earn a
living they need to be able to
do technical writing.
So it isn't just the stem
teachers that benefit from this
partnership but I think they
benefit the most.
Relationships like this don't
just happen a we have had
several.
I call them shepherd you could
call them angels.
Among them the late on a raid
Dodd canes from Northrop Grumman.
How Ron Smith from Northrop
Grumman art lofting from there
through Graham and?
These are individuals who.
.
Who have taken the time to
invest personally?
Their time and energy getting
to know our students getting to
know our teachers and help
connect them to the people in
the pipeline that we don't even
know.
And so it is taken.
.
We've relied on those
relationships and those are only
a few of them.
But.
High school teachers can't just
knock on the door of of our
industry were of our
universities and begin
conversations about how we can
best prepare students.
They're gonna be ready for you
and for eight years it's gonna
happen really quickly. I'm and
we want to do our part and
sometimes it's hard for us to
know how.
In addition to working directly
with the faculty of the
university's.
At and and in partnership with
the private sector who can help
make that happen.
In essence by purchasing that
faculties time to come here and
work with us.
And we've also I had the benefit
of working with folks who are
willing to. Come here and
actually keep some of our
classes.
And that isn't just university
faculty at only have lieutenant
colonel Robert I can get from of
the airforce. Who who walks
across I think you are I hope
you walk lots across the street?
And teaches a class at Bob for
our students called space
innovations and exploration.
I'm for students to get to have
the experience of having their
teacher be an active duty
airforce member that's a really
powerful thing for a student to
have a direct connection.
In addition.
Doctor Lynch talked about the
FRC robotic program our efforts
C. robotics program again I'm
their machine around parts
probably right now as we speak
you can check them out. Their
sixteen year olds who are doing
these things but they're not
Robert themselves they have
industry mentors from. SpaceX
bought Bob Boeing Northup
Grumman Raytheon DARPA people
who those spend tens or hundreds
of hours. With the students
alongside distant.
Not only explain to them what
they need to learn and how they
can go about learning at. But
who can and talk to them about
what it's like to be an engineer.
Several of autumn the palette
talked about mentorship.
I'm doctor bows talked about
that in the importance of
at every level people having
mentors at the next level. And
and and sixteen and seventeen
year olds need Dodd as well they
get some of that from the high
school teachers. But man when
you have somebody who's living
and working in the industry.
There's nobody else that can
give that same perspective and.
.
And those people are have
schedules and and time
constraints that are so impacted
but it's often really difficult.
Time and it takes either folks
who are really I just angels in
their personal time would you
say I'm just going to do this
because this is what my life is
about. Arm.
And so I'm to take the private
sector being willing to give
their employees release time I.
we have.
Another engineer from airspace
Corp who who spends a lot of
time here because he has the
ability the freedom to I. in hit
casual to come over and spend
time with our kids.
Sometimes I suspect he enjoys
being here that kids more
interesting at work.
But that's a great thing.
When you're around the students
and you realize that. These are
going to be our employees in the
years getting to know them Allen
a really exciting thing.
And that pipeline takes
the partnership of of the
private sector of the military
of the diversity of our immunity
college system.
Helping us know how to prepare
them best for you.
Thank you.
Thank you thank you you veggie
some as well for for hosting us
here really do.
Appreciate it would be great for
folks to get a chance to see
some of the programs.
Upstairs and if you can make
arrangements for folks who wanna
stick around okay right. Now but
even today people. Okay okay.
I'm.
Well I guess I'd love to.
Get it just some thoughts from.
Is a you were very optimistic
which I certainly appreciate.
Out what do you see.
As.
Those are let let's let's ask so
we ask the pessimist to be
optimistic reacts the optimist
to be.
Maybe not pessimistic but but
give us do what were some of the
barriers when some of the
barriers of it is it is it. Mean
you met you started out your
presentation by saying that I'm
it's not easy to call but
institutional her learning Beth
and to get super engaged in.
Kick the twelve and yet Ben he
prodded this enormous program
you have in place with an
institution are learning it
seems to be very successful. So.
I'm expose one of them would
just be the scale and you you
know you're one fantastic
program but but did not this
unfortunate enough of these
programs. Kid to twelve wide
throughout our state.
Our bill would have you found of
Ben and barriers.
Both in terms of creating this
program but also.
Gov writ large I. that you see.
With regards to the that the
pipeline jobs we've been talking
about all day today.
You know.
.
In terms of the biggest picture
I think Karem teacher
credentialing I. donors in that
why there's not an engineering
credential.
Especially as we are going into
an age where doesn't even matter
your field. The most exciting
things are happening at the
intersections between
disciplines on the most you know
exciting advances in medicine I
think are actually biotechnology
in bioengineering.
And.
So subjects don't exist in
silos anymore.
But credentials absolutely do.
And so other credentials usually
response of the standards.
In a soap so maybe there's a
problem with.
Absolutely yeah sometimes over
you know and during standards so
we ha ha you've heard a couple
times people reference a project
lead the way. Beyond the project
we do a program is
one example of an organization
that has put together some
fantastic think.
.
Industry informed engineering
standards.
Finds.
Their art you know.
There isn't a set of
engineering standards like the
next generation science
standards.
Men so I think on the large
scale.
If there was an engineering
teaching credential.
And if our industry partners
and if our university faculty
could class.
.
You know that's a long term
feigned I'm we have a lot of
kids who love engineering but
also want to be a teacher
someday. And so I can imagine.
I can imagine that would be. A
way to not only bring and you
know. We got math teachers are
trying to teach in an
engineering but they've never
been engineers and that's why we
rely on on the folks who are.
But that would be a pretty
exciting thing I think harm to
have a. Little M. maybe ten
years you got a whole crop of
teaching candidates who whose
credential is in engineering.
And that for their passion is in
engineering and they probably
are going to have more
connections.
And just Arab be better able to
prepare students for.
You know. Engineering majors
when it gets our underground.
Or also engineering technical
fields.
Call alright let the.
The talking more about that.
.
It is my sincere thanks so much
for your participation and for
the position of the cal state
system.
Can you reflect a bit on the
pass panel that you came you
heard.
As you're hearing from some of
your partners that you.
C. and it.
That you know. To me college in
and and private levels what we
discussed the in discussing that
face similar challenges are
unique set of challenges and
connection to the things that
were raised. You speak to some
of the issues raised our last
panel. Yes so.
So we do have some means there
are some similar challenges mean
because for engineering.
Primarily what happens is you
need.
Via Robert also busting at the
seams in terms of being over
forty six thousand students.
And a growing demand program.
It's not just classroom space
unity lab space and and you need
equipment to go with the labs.
And.
And clearly we have.
Multiple pathways for
especially for the C. S. you
you've got your. Your first year
freshmen coming indirectly and
then we have the transfer
pathways and so the management
of those pathways so that we
help our students you know be
successful.
And and I C. I'm I'm very
optimistic myself you know what
we've been doing lately is using
a research as a tool for
engagement.
For our students.
And also research is a tool to
of foreknowledge annual faculty
so that they maintain currency
in their fields.
And it's also it's also a way
for us to make education more
exciting.
To students Senate and engage
them.
You know what happens with
college lectures is over the
years they've become you know
they can. And in a pre prepared
materials.
And.
So you know so many going to
arrest under expected be sold
fresh food and not canned food
and so our students are hungry
for knowledge. And we are making
an effort through the
undergraduate research
experience to give them you know
you know of no Faye fresh
content right out with with
practical applications and. Real
life experiences and that's
easier to do in our faculty are
involved in and relax projects
funded projects.
But but I think there are a lot
there are many examples great
examples of.
.
The pilots and exemplars that
thing as you pointed out are key
is.
Huckabee scale these so that
you me we get to a much larger
segment so.
Yeah another summertime.
And other jurisdictional
masterplan constraints on the
cal state's ability to.
Expand in the engineering space.
So the.
With that with the master plan
restrictions I think you know
the old thinking was the the teaching some of that has
changed. Of because they
recognize that research and
teaching are intertwined but
however there are space
restrictions on what can be
allocated as educational space
and what can be. A allocated as
a civic space mean physical spy
physical space Robert that's an
internal decision within the cal
state right.
No that is.
That that is not an internal
all these an internal decision
the some of it could be but. As
you pointed out earlier the cal
state so much more under the
influence of the. Legislature.
Compared to. You know.
Our friends.
If the C. yeah interesting.
I love to do lower delving into
that topic to.
So it so many things for us to
do come Kevin here.
.
Well really appreciate your your
your both of you brought up
several things that I think we
made we want us to work on.
So thank you thank you so much
for your participation and done.
Let's open up now given
opportunity for the public to
make public comment.
Was if so isn't signed up yeah
okay so if you would Mike coming
up here and.
.
Introduce yourself and.
Giving us a short comment.
Alright well try to keep it
short feel free to cut me off my
name is that Chris Keiko. I'm
with the South Bay workforce
investment board.
And that for those that may not
know what the workforce board
does were part of a larger
national systems when the
president Congress pass a jobs
bill. Money goes out to the
states
goes up Sacramento they sent it
out to the employment
development department into the
workforce boards.
The governor appoints people to
the.
California workforce board who
manages all the work for sports
of what I'm gonna tell. You and
ask you is when you're designing
bills and thinking about grants
and how to.
Bill workforce pipelines.
Fund these different things
always look in there and see if
all the different partners that
are gonna be.
Players in in the effort make
sure they're talking to the
local workforce board because
it's your system.
And I would love it if everybody
just automatically makes that
call in Morrell working together
because the work force boards.
Are doing a lot and in the South
Bay where your work for sport is
doing is we have. Actually done
something quite exciting we have
registered.
The very first
aerospace engineering
apprenticeship.
With the department of labor and
it's the first in the nation.
Not only that. It's the first.
Engineering apprenticeship.
That requires a bachelor stern.
And the reason that's important
is because it's part of a larger
career pathway.
They start as a pre apprentice
they going to school.
They get into the apprenticeship
and they graduate.
With the job.
That's because.
When when they do it registered
apprenticeship employer hires
them so they maybe in their
senior year they do that and
then they graduate employed.
So the model of this aerospace
engineering apprenticeship can
be applied to other industries
so were were doing that now and
one of them were working on a
cyber security.
Was mentioned here is a neat
harm.
And we have regular.
Manufacturing meetings and
meetings and different sectors.
That the work for sports that
allow all this to be employer
driven so we try to match the
needs of whatever we're doing
with the employer needs.
We have great relationships by
the way with the. Local schools
and colleges and universities
here especially the one I just
mentioned.
The apprenticeship and
engineering.
Westerly colleges partner in
that a community college we're
doing a lot now some studies
with Dominguez hills as well. So
what were really happy about all
that. Of the other thing is.
That was mentioned earlier.
The.
.
The fix security clearance
yeah we have.
Actually here an office at the
Los Angeles airforce base
and what we do is hold.
Hiring events on a regular
basis so companies that are
interested in hiring vets and
they wanna get face to face with
them. They have the security
clearances that worked wrestling
game on the Bates.
And apart
Spain was hiring about so
there's a lot of things that
have you found M. have you guys
been impacted in that work.
With this security clearance
backlog yeah.
Yeah yeah having Benjamin is is
being a vet does that.
Make it faster or is it makes it
faster because they only have it
right there have the clearance
so pure hiring those people
coming out of the military
culture there's about fifty to
sixty a month. Later.
Exiting the military not like to
work here if they don't find a
job here if we don't help them
find a job here they go back. To
wherever they originate from so
are employers obviously want
Hiram so we're trying to.
Make that connection.
Hiring events gotcha.
The answer the customer helpful
thank you thank you.
Okay well with that I really
just the very much appreciative
once participation I think there
are number of really good ideas
that are coming out of this
hearing and we harden whispering
about.
And then also a big rat big
thank you to by the folks in my
stern.
All of the.
You're
here and.
I know that the.
Well go back.
Clarify